=== calc_ is now known as calc [04:57] * Hobbsee beats the compiz devs with a big stick [04:58] i would appreciate it if the latest changes didn't cause all my apps to freeze! [05:19] Hobbsee: Howdy. [05:21] heya manchicken! [05:53] Hobbsee: How goes? [05:53] manchicken: well, i moved to the dark side fully yesterday, which was fun. [05:53] Which dark side? [05:54] the one without kde in it [05:54] The GNOME side? [05:54] yeah [05:54] I'm digging the GNOME side. [05:54] oh, hmm, i'm using mvo's compiz now, aren't i? [05:55] I love the KDE community... but I dig the standardized Ubuntu GNOME. [05:55] and how options are all in the same place? yeah [05:55] still gets me between an ubuntu and a windows firefox, though [05:59] I haven't used windows in more than 2 years. [06:00] I've had my in-laws try to get me to help them with their windows boxes, I don't even bother anymore. [06:02] * ajmitch wonders what's so dark abotu this side [06:03] manchicken: i think the uni'd kill me if i suddenly started switching the workstations to ubuntu there [06:03] heh [06:04] ajmitch: Novell :) [06:04] what about them? [06:04] You asked what's so dark, Novell is :) [06:04] * manchicken trolls lightly. [06:20] good morning === asac_ is now known as asac === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow [09:22] hey mvo [09:23] hey seb128! [09:23] mvo: so they fixed your dsl yesterday? ;-) [09:23] seb128: yeah, came back (by magic) ~3h later [09:24] seb128: today a technican was at my place to check everything but he said all was fine (and claimed nothing was wrong on their side) [09:24] I will keep a eye on it [09:25] they always claim nothing is wrong on their side [09:39] im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phoen jack to work. can anyone help me? [09:41] doug2266778822: try #ubuntu for user questions [09:41] seb128: i have asked for the last hour no one seems to wanting to help me [09:42] doug2266778822: try http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu then maybe, this channel is one for user questions [10:42] hey ubuntu's looking for an GNOME Maintainer [10:45] crevette: you happen to know one by any chance? :-P [10:46] there are good at least here [10:46] * crevette should stop opening dup bugs [10:49] pitti, I'm sure a lot of people are interested with, but unfortunately I don't know one personnaly [10:49] s/are/is/ [10:53] crevette: don't be fooled, tehy just want to run them into the ground. [10:53] what happens to seb128, then? or do they comaintain? [10:53] Hobbsee, :) [10:54] Hobbsee: want to comaintain GNOME with me? :-p [10:54] seb128 will be able to relax a bit and take it easy :) [10:55] seb128: now, while i'm tempted..... [10:55] Sounds fun [10:55] Hobbsee: seb128 will move to wbuntu (windowmaker ubuntu - he runs that anyway) [10:55] mvo_: ahhhhh.... [10:55] mvo_: ;-) [10:55] seb128: i wouldn't midn doing that - if i actually knew gnome, etc. [10:56] ah I thought he was using screenubuntu [10:56] * mvo_ hugs seb128 [10:56] * dholbach hugs seb128 [10:56] * Hobbsee --> dinner [10:56] Hobbsee: time to start learning about it then, maybe in some months you will be ready ;-) [10:56] Hobbsee, actually nobody knows wht is gnome [10:56] Hobbsee: enjoy your dinner [10:56] except this is people [10:56] * seb128 hugs dholbach mvo [10:56] hmm, I just updated and now only root can play audio :-/ [10:57] seb128, I've received svn account \./ [10:57] oh, and morning :-) [10:57] njpatel, not GNOME [10:57] bash pulseaudio [10:57] :) [10:57] crevette: gnome :-) [10:57] crevette: is there a fix for it? [10:59] actually I don't really know, I hasd problem when while 2 users where connected, the 2nd didn't had sound [11:00] well, running pulseaudio as root seems to let normal apps work, which okay for now i guess [11:03] you should not have to workaround bugs this way [11:03] try asking on #ubuntu-devel maybe, and give details on what you updated, etc [11:08] seb128: sure, i'm just trying to see if theres a bug filed first. I needed to get it working asap as I can't hack without music :-) [11:12] njpatel, are you sure you're in audio group ? [11:12] just a dumb thought, I'm not using ubuntu right now [11:12] crevette: I just added myself, and now it works again [11:12] ahhahaha [11:12] :) [11:12] $ [11:13] it was wokring before the update...i wonder what happened [11:14] what update did you do? [11:14] dapper to hardy? [11:16] seb128: nope, was already on hardy, it was just a normal update (about 30 packages) [11:16] weird then [12:29] seb128: yeah, maybe. i should be finished university by then. Actually, i was thinking of doing that this release cycle, and stepping away from MOTU [12:29] crevette: oh? [12:29] seb128: besides, canonical wouldn't hire me - have caused too much trouble wiht MOTU, etc. [12:31] seb128: either way, i'm interested, if i find time somewhere in there. i'ts on the very long to-do list [12:31] Hobbsee: Hehe [12:32] mvo: i don't know about your compiz change, btw.... [12:32] Well, on one hand I don't want to think that is true but on the other hand I applied for that position so.... :) [12:32] Amaranth: heh [12:33] Hobbsee: hm? [12:34] mvo: a few of my apps (pidgin x1, firefox x many) keep going dark, sometimes not recovering. [12:34] Hobbsee: did they freeze? [12:34] nothing in that part of the code has changed [12:35] Amaranth: er, yes. isn't going dark usually freezing? [12:36] well, some people used to complain about firefox going dark and not actually freezing [12:36] which i think was a ff2 bug with it not responding to pings anymore [12:49] Hobbsee, why "ho ?" [12:50] crevette: as in, "what do you mean?" [12:51] Amaranth: ah right. === fta_ is now known as fta [13:46] mpt: hey [13:47] hi seb128 [13:48] mpt: do you know if there is a launchpad bug about the counts of bugs being different when changing the sorting option? [13:49] seb128, yes, and yes [13:49] ok, I can't find it, must be using the wrong keywords [13:49] bug 148901 [13:49] Launchpad bug 148901 in malone "fewer bugs listed when sorting" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148901 [13:49] sorting by recently open is nice for triaging [13:49] It's the #1 result when I search for "sort" [13:50] but if it's dropping bugs on the way that defeat the purpose [13:50] I searched for number and count ... [13:50] thanks! [13:50] np [13:51] how can this bug be open for 6 months and being ignored [13:51] which one? [13:51] mvo: bug #148901 [13:51] Launchpad bug 148901 in malone "fewer bugs listed when sorting" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/148901 [13:52] heh :) [13:52] mvo: when you sort bugs there is some removed of the list === musb is now known as fernando [13:52] I always wondered by the numbers are different then [13:52] which means we might be ignoring important issues [13:52] (when i sorted e.g. update-manager reports) [13:52] right [13:52] what I'm wondering is which bugs it's removing [13:52] because it that's incomplete ones that ok, but if it removes valid bugs it's really broken [13:53] agreed, maybe #launchpad knows? [13:53] mpt: do you know what is the best way to get that escalated so the launchpad team might consider it for 2.0? [13:54] or whatever the next version is called [13:54] The next version is called 1.2.4 [13:54] ok [13:54] so to get it consider for 1.2.4 or 1.2.5 ;-) [13:54] and the best way is probably to talk with the Launchpad managers (kiko, SteveA, and Rinchen) [13:55] ok, thanks [14:56] mvo: around? [14:58] yes [14:58] mvo: could you look at bug #220761? it seems to run several time the update-manager postinst and hit segfaults [14:58] Launchpad bug 220761 in evolution "package evolution-common 2.22.1-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220761 [14:58] looking [15:00] seb128: happens in a bunch of packages, I suspect its either a HW problem (bad ram) or the scrollkeeper-update bug we talked aobut the other day [15:01] I mark it a duplicate of #220762 fo rnow [15:01] mvo: how come it doesn't write what binary is segfaulting btw? [15:01] mvo: thanks [15:01] bug #220762 [15:01] Launchpad bug 220762 in ubuntu-docs "package ubuntu-docs 8.04.2~hardy failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220762 [15:01] yeah, I was wondering about that too [15:01] no idea right now [15:02] ok [15:02] (sorry) [15:05] (no need to) [15:13] heh :) === calc_ is now known as calc [17:40] hello [17:41] Hi === crd1b is now known as crdlb