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| ubuntudemon | Hey. Can I do anything to provide more information to this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/220640 And does anybody know how to use ipw3945 with Hardy's kernel ? | 12:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | 12:36 |
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| amitk | ubuntudemon: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219268 | 12:49 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 219268 in ubuntu "iwl3945 doesn't work with my wifi card (ipw3945 did)" [Undecided,New] | 12:49 |
| BenC | ubuntudemon: we don't have ipw3945 in hardy | 13:39 |
| BenC | ubuntudemon: oops, misread the bug title | 13:50 |
| BenC | ubuntudemon: anyway, install linux-backports-modules-hardy-generic | 13:51 |
| BenC | reboot and try that | 13:51 |
| alex_joni | ubuntudemon: did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4612681 ? | 13:57 |
| ubuntudemon | alex_joni thanks. but I don't think that will work. I don't have any LED issues. I'll try just in case :) | 14:01 |
| alex_joni | ubuntudemon: the main point on that page was the "options iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1" | 14:03 |
| alex_joni | the led is just a minor nag | 14:03 |
| ubuntudemon | alex_joni does that work from a live cd ? | 14:03 |
| alex_joni | ubuntudemon: it might | 14:05 |
| ubuntudemon | alex_joni thanks for the suggestion. it didn't work but I got different errors see : https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/220640/comments/9 | 14:13 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Undecided,New] | 14:13 |
| ubuntudemon | alex_joni : I'm also talking in #ubuntu-bugs about this problem | 14:18 |
| BenC | ubuntudemon: on a livecd boot do: sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; modprobe iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1 | 14:22 |
| ubuntudemon | BenC : Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried something like that. It gives different error messages like "ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN] Device or resource busy". I'm trying again to put more debugging information on this in the bug report. | 14:29 |
| alex_joni | BenC: it might be that starting the module once confuses the HW, and it won't work until a next reboot | 14:35 |
| alex_joni | ubuntudemon: try disabling the module when starting the LiveCD.. I think there is a bootoption to disable a certain module from loading | 14:35 |
| ubuntudemon | BenC : Here's the newest debugging log : https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/220640/comments/11 (different errors than when not using disable_hw_scan) | 14:37 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 220640 in linux "[hardy] iwl3945 + wpasupplicant fails to connect to university network. regression from gutsy (ipw3945+wpasupplicant)" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 14:37 |
| ubuntudemon | Is there a way to give disable_hw_scan=1 at bootup (using the live cd) ? | 14:39 |
| soren | ubuntudemon: Press F6. | 14:40 |
| alex_joni | module_name.parameter_name=value | 14:40 |
| ubuntudemon | so it's : iwl3945.disable_hw_scan=1 | 14:41 |
| alex_joni | so I would try iwl3945.disable_hw_scan=1 in the boot param list (the one you get with F6) | 14:41 |
| ubuntudemon | I'm trying now | 14:41 |
| ubuntudemon | I added it at the end of the line | 14:42 |
| ubuntudemon | unknow boot option .... ignoring | 14:42 |
| ubuntudemon | I must have done something wrong .. trying again | 14:42 |
| ubuntudemon | again the "unkown boot option" thing | 14:43 |
| ubuntudemon | I just tried again with the same result.. so I must be doing something wrong | 14:45 |
| ubuntudemon | I'm pressing F6 and typing iwl3945.disable_hw_scan=1 at the end of the line. | 14:47 |
| ubuntudemon | What about including the ipw3945 module in Ubuntu as an option ? It's possible see : http://james.colannino.org/downloads.html | 15:04 |
| amitk | ubuntudemon: Hardy is being released tomorrow :) And ipw3945 isn't supported by Intel anymore. | 15:08 |
| ubuntudemon | After a reboot and using "sudo modprobe -r iwl3945 ; sudo modprobe iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1" I'm seeing both errors in one run : ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument | 15:12 |
| ubuntudemon | ioctl[SIOCSIWSCAN] Device or resource busy | 15:12 |
| ubuntudemon | amitk : I know but I also found that a lot of people have all kinds of issues with iwl3945 | 15:13 |
| rtg_ | ubuntudemon: have you tried LBM? It has a more recent release of iwlwifi. | 15:16 |
| ubuntudemon | rtg_ no I haven't. I have never heard about LBM. | 15:19 |
| ubuntudemon | Do you mean linux-backports-modules ? Yes I have tried it. | 15:20 |
| rtg_ | ubuntudemon: try installing linux-backports-modules for Hardy. | 15:20 |
| rtg_ | ubuntudemon: oh. | 15:20 |
| BenC | ubuntudemon: did you reboot after doing so? | 15:32 |
| ubuntudemon | BenC : I'm running of a Hardy livecd (RC). I'm running an encrypted Gutsy installation on my harddrive and I don't want to upgrade if I can't get wireless to work. | 15:34 |
| ubuntudemon | But installing linux-backports-modules and modprobing iwl3945 seemed not to need a reboot because i'm seeing the led_class module which I didn't see before | 15:35 |
| ubuntudemon | sudo modinfo iwl3945 | grep srcversion gives : srcversion: FDE2E62843DE3ED112A50C3 | 15:39 |
| ubuntudemon | Is there anything else I can try from the live cd ? | 15:46 |
| ubuntudemon | Tomorrow I'm helping someone who runs Gutsy to get on this wireless network. He also has intel 3945 wireless. Maybe we'll have time to test hardy live on his machine. | 15:50 |
| ubuntudemon | If there is nothing else I can try I'm going home and I'll try any new suggestions tomorrow. Thanks everybody for your help. | 15:51 |
| ubuntudemon | Bye all! | 16:07 |
| boritek | hello | 16:33 |
| boritek | My ubuntu hardy heron uses the hard disk too much and for too long. It seems that it is probably kjournald, pdflush, and/or syslogd | 16:33 |
| boritek | it starts using the hard disk in about every 20 minutes for 1-3 minutes | 16:33 |
| boritek | and it slows down my system even slows applications like firefox inspite of the fact that CPU usage shows 30% only | 16:33 |
| boritek | why kjournald takes so much time? (if it is the culprit) | 16:34 |
| boritek | i made a `ps faux`: http://pastebin.com/d34cda402 | 16:44 |
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| boritek | anybody? | 18:51 |
| BenC | boritek: are you sure it isn't the trackerd? | 19:55 |
| boritek | BenC, well it doesnt come up in the iotop or atop list | 19:56 |
| boritek | and i turned the updating off | 19:56 |
| BenC | is it swapping? | 19:56 |
| boritek | i dont think so, it keeps having 5% only | 19:57 |
| boritek | BenC, http://pastebin.com/d34cda402 | 20:02 |
| BenC | No, I mean is your system using swap | 20:06 |
| alex_joni | BenC: guess -16 will be the one for tomorrow? | 20:41 |
| BenC | yeah | 20:41 |
| alex_joni | cool :) | 20:42 |
| fbond | Hi, sorry to bother with this sort of question: supposing I rebuilt ubuntu-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic on Feisty. Everything seems to be in order, but the driver doesn't work correctly (snd-hda-intel). I'm at a loss as to why that would be. I get a DMA memory allocation error in dmesg. | 20:55 |
| fbond | fbond: (the driver works fine on Gutsy) | 20:55 |
| rtg | fbond: I'm confused. how do you build LBM 2.6.22 on Feisty? That is a Gutsy package. | 21:06 |
| fbond | rtg: I modified it slightly and turned it into a 2.6.20 package. | 21:11 |
| fbond | rtg: It only contains updated ALSA modules. | 21:11 |
| fbond | Those should work fine with either kernel version. The snd-hda-intel driver in Feisty doesn't work with this hardware, but the snd-hda-intel from Gutsy does. I can't dist upgrade the platform yet, though. | 21:12 |
| fbond | Seems that there's more to a working snd-hda-intel than what's in the module itself, though, and that caught me a bit by surprise. | 21:12 |
| rtg | fbond: yeah, I think you're on own on this one. I would suspect incorrect headers or something. | 21:13 |
| rtg | s/on own/on your own/ | 21:13 |
| fbond | rtg: thanks | 21:21 |
| boritek | BenC, yes i have 2GB swap | 21:33 |
| BenC | boritek: but is it being used is what I am asking | 21:33 |
| BenC | boritek: like have you exhausted your memory and progs are swapping out | 21:33 |
| boritek | BenC, my Gnome-panel says the system is using 5% swap | 21:34 |
| boritek | i have 1GB RAM 61%used, 33%cache | 21:35 |
| BenC | boritek: can you pastebin /proc/meminfo | 21:35 |
| boritek | BenC, http://pastebin.com/d6c5bea6d | 21:36 |
| BenC | boritek: I suspect you are just getting swap usage and that causes disk usage | 21:38 |
| boritek | BenC, i never experienced this earlier | 21:38 |
| boritek | and it does it when i even dont do anything particular | 21:39 |
| BenC | you may have more things running, or they may be using more memory | 21:39 |
| boritek | if there is 33% cache it can just free it up, right? | 21:39 |
| boritek | so there is plenty of memory, and swap isnt really used, its only 5% | 21:40 |
| BenC | it's still ~90Megs used, so there is something being written to it | 21:40 |
| boritek | and reserving disk for 2-3minutes it could read and write more hundred MBs | 21:41 |
| boritek | i shot down may services like, postfix, mysql, postgresql, and it still does this | 21:43 |
| boritek | many* | 21:43 |
| boritek | BenC, i also got 100 iowait which is definitly abnormal i think | 21:46 |
| boritek | 100% | 21:46 |
| boritek | system is quite unresponsive at those times | 21:47 |
| boritek | BenC, swap is not being in use | 21:55 |
| boritek | i am just watching it with iotop | 21:56 |
| sleepster | how have the ubuntu kernel diverged from the standard linux kernel? | 22:17 |
| sleepster | and are the changes drastic? | 22:17 |
| crimsun | http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ | 22:19 |
| sleepster | so what is the best way to dive into kernel development? | 22:21 |
| crimsun | Linux? BSD? something distro-specific? | 22:21 |
| sleepster | Linux | 22:21 |
| crimsun | http://kernelnewbies.org, probably | 22:21 |
| sleepster | I am wondering if I should first implement my own kernel | 22:22 |
| sleepster | to get hands on experience on how everything ties together | 22:22 |
| JanC | only if you have 2-3 years ;) | 22:26 |
| JanC | writing/fixing drivers might be a start though | 22:28 |
| sleepster | sounds good :) | 22:28 |
| JanC | AFAIK kernelnewbies is a good resource to get started | 22:29 |
| sleepster | thanks | 22:29 |
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