| elky_work | who whants what? | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| ubot3` | In #ubuntu-us-ky, etank said: !forget night | 01:26 |
| mneptok | FYI: | 02:51 |
| mneptok | 21:36 < DrDerek> I found a picture of SNuxoll when he heard the news I was with his mom the other night. | 02:51 |
| Pici | ... | 02:51 |
| mneptok | 21:48 [msg(DrDerek)] your next "mom" comment is a permanent ban | 02:51 |
| mneptok | 21:49 [DrDerek(n=DrDerek@24-113-52-159.wavecable.com)] all right. | 02:51 |
| mneptok | 21:49 [msg(DrDerek)] do you really need to be told thgat such stuff is unsuitable for -offtopic? | 02:51 |
| mneptok | 21:49 [msg(DrDerek)] you've been around long enough to have read the CoC. please follow it. | 02:52 |
| mneptok | 21:49 [DrDerek(n=DrDerek@24-113-52-159.wavecable.com)] no, I dunno, just SNuxoll and I been messing around. | 02:52 |
| mneptok | 21:50 [DrDerek(n=DrDerek@24-113-52-159.wavecable.com)] But I got you. | 02:52 |
| mneptok | DrDerek is now on his last notice. | 02:52 |
| Pici | agreed | 02:52 |
| Pici | I need to take a break from babysitting #ubuntu or I'm going to go crazy | 03:33 |
| Jack_Sparrow | Pici, Take a break, I will watch things while you enjoy life a bit | 03:34 |
| Jack_Sparrow | See you in an hour or so? | 03:34 |
| Pici | Maybe | 03:35 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: he should already have been on his last notice. he's kagar. | 04:23 |
| mneptok | Hobbsee: i either do not know or do not remember that nick | 05:32 |
| Hobbsee | mneptok: look it up in the bantracker | 05:35 |
| tonyyarusso | crazy. #ubuntu is < 1200 | 06:45 |
| Seveas | the awkward silence before the hurricane hits | 06:45 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah | 06:45 |
| nickrud | took a couple days off. Trying to catch my breath | 06:46 |
| nickrud | metabot? | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | no one's fixed pidgin for the default port. | 07:13 |
| tonyyarusso | :( | 07:15 |
| Hobbsee | then again, it doesn't seem to do a default channel | 07:16 |
| Hobbsee | !staff | 07:53 |
| ubotu | Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) | 07:53 |
| Locky | !staff | 07:53 |
| elky_work | heh | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | where are the staff? | 07:55 |
| elky_work | Hobbsee, either absent or /away | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | elky_work: i thought they found more people, so shouldn't ahve that problem. | 07:55 |
| elky_work | you're assuming that they found the right people | 07:56 |
| Hobbsee | elky_work: ubuntu+1 banlist is full. | 07:57 |
| elky_work | Hobbsee, i'm not even in there | 07:57 |
| elky_work | well. home is, but not here | 07:57 |
| Hobbsee | guys, can you clear up your +1 bans please? | 07:59 |
| === profoX_ is now known as profoX` | ||
| Tm_T | hi kids | 13:46 |
| Pici | Hiyas! | 13:46 |
| jussio1 | hey Tm_T | 13:46 |
| ikonia | Pici: looks like the PPC factois is wrong | 14:10 |
| ikonia | Pici: website says 6.06 is supported, not edgy | 14:10 |
| Pici | ikonia: Where on the wiki? It says 6.10 under the "Is Ubuntu supported on PowerPC?" heading | 14:11 |
| ikonia | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | 14:12 |
| ikonia | The PowerPC platform of computers is not supported by the newest versions of Ubuntu. However Ubuntu 6.06 is still supported and available for your machine | 14:12 |
| nalioth | official builds are not available for powerpc, but community builds are | 14:12 |
| thoreauputic | feisty is still supported on ppc I think, also | 14:12 |
| thoreauputic | until October :| | 14:12 |
| ikonia | ubuntu.com suggests only 6.06 | 14:12 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: i think feisty support ended some time ago | 14:13 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: shouldn't have - 7.04 is supported until 8.10 is it not? | 14:13 |
| ikonia | not on ppc | 14:13 |
| ikonia | ppc become community support so I don't think ubuntu every picked up 7.04 ? | 14:14 |
| thoreauputic | still seeing updates for feisty on ppc here | 14:14 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: from the community, not canonical | 14:14 |
| ikonia | does the community manage those repos now though ? | 14:14 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: perhaps so | 14:14 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: there is no doubt of it. | 14:15 |
| thoreauputic | the latest ppc hardy desktop iso doesn't actually boot here - or perhaps it would if I used init=/bin/sh or something | 14:15 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: powerpc support officially ended with edgy | 14:15 |
| ikonia | nalioth: maybe an updated on the website rather than the factoid is needed | 14:16 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: Yes, I know. I was thinking that the builds were still cranking out ppc versions of canonical supported stuff, but you are no doubt right | 14:16 |
| Fujitsu | thoreauputic: ppc will get all of the updates that i386 and amd64 get.. | 14:18 |
| ikonia | Fujitsu: but from who ? | 14:18 |
| Fujitsu | Just it won't block releases, nor get commercial support. | 14:18 |
| Fujitsu | From whoever performs the updates. | 14:18 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: that's what I have been seeing | 14:18 |
| nalioth | ikonia: the community | 14:18 |
| Fujitsu | nalioth: No, from whoever performs the updates. | 14:18 |
| ikonia | so canonical will still package ppc updates and release them but "your on your own" | 14:19 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: For a moment I thought my brain had short-circuited ;) | 14:19 |
| Fujitsu | ikonia: ppc builds of everything are automatically attempted. Nobody has to intervene. | 14:20 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: You are involved with mplayer - am I right? | 14:21 |
| ikonia | Fujitsu: perfect, thank you | 14:21 |
| Fujitsu | thoreauputic: Unfortunately. | 14:21 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: heh | 14:21 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: do you happen to know if the PPC bugs have been sorted out? I rolled my own here, but the packaged version had a problem with my iBook | 14:22 |
| thoreauputic | ie. mplayer | 14:22 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: mplayer will always need to be locally compiled for ppc | 14:23 |
| Fujitsu | The lack of altivec, or something different? | 14:23 |
| Fujitsu | nalioth: Why? | 14:23 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: umm.... I don't think so | 14:23 |
| nalioth | thoreauputic: not sure what "bugs" you're talking about, but the standard ubuntu build is missing lots of codecs due to licensing | 14:23 |
| Fujitsu | `lots'? | 14:23 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: not the issue I'm talking about | 14:23 |
| Fujitsu | I must be missing those darn configure flags. | 14:23 |
| Fujitsu | Because I don't see much disabled. | 14:24 |
| Fujitsu | And I maintain the thing. | 14:24 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: and mplayer plays practically anything using ffmpeg | 14:24 |
| thoreauputic | nalioth: as evidenced by my live CD (INX) which happily plays windows media and real media without all those evile w32codecs | 14:25 |
| Fujitsu | nalioth: Licensing isn't an issue at all any more - patents are in some circumstances, which is why we have it in multiverse. | 14:25 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: indeed, the x86 version plays pretty much anything I've been able to find... | 14:26 |
| Amaranth | Fujitsu: I thought it still disabled some encoders for mencoder | 14:26 |
| Fujitsu | thoreauputic: The only arch-specific configure flags are for CPU detection. | 14:26 |
| Fujitsu | And svgalib, I guess. | 14:26 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: Hmm, possibly one or two. | 14:26 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: right, the bug was to do with altivec and cpu detection IIRC | 14:27 |
| Fujitsu | Yes, that's a hardy one. | 14:27 |
| Fujitsu | *hard | 14:27 |
| Amaranth | mplayer requires altivec | 14:27 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: I recall benh had a fix ( this was ages ago) | 14:27 |
| Fujitsu | Particularly as I don't have a PPC machine at all. | 14:27 |
| Amaranth | g3 is pre-2000, isn't it? | 14:27 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: Not if I disable altivec. | 14:27 |
| Amaranth | Fujitsu: then my g4 loses accelerated yuv->rgb conversion | 14:28 |
| Fujitsu | Amaranth: It's *meant* to be able to autodetect it, IIRC> | 14:28 |
| Fujitsu | But fails miserably. | 14:28 |
| thoreauputic | Amaranth: the problem appears to be that mplayer wants to ID the cpu at runtime. Rolling your own seems to get around the issue on ppc | 14:28 |
| Fujitsu | But your statement about mplayer requiring Altivec is false. | 14:28 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: Am I right in thinking that a separately built ppc deb of mplayer made on a G4 iBook would not beincluded in the repos even if it were offered? | 14:36 |
| thoreauputic | ..sorry I know this isn't the dev channel... | 14:37 |
| Fujitsu | That is one of the more evil suggestions I've seen recently. | 14:37 |
| Fujitsu | We do not do binary uploads. | 14:37 |
| thoreauputic | heheh | 14:37 |
| Fujitsu | That is a bad idea. | 14:37 |
| thoreauputic | no no that's not what I meamt | 14:37 |
| thoreauputic | I meant a proper deb with source etc | 14:37 |
| Fujitsu | deb with source is an oxymoron. | 14:38 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: are you deliberately being pedantic? I mean: source code + dsc + debian stuff as correct + binary deb | 14:39 |
| thoreauputic | :| | 14:39 |
| Fujitsu | We don't do binary uploads. | 14:39 |
| Fujitsu | All binaries are built on the buildds, or nowhere at all.l | 14:40 |
| thoreauputic | OK so what you object to is the inclusion of the binary - all the source has to be identical, is that correct? | 14:40 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: OK I see - fair enough | 14:40 |
| Fujitsu | No, I don't object to it: policy (both social and technical) forbids it. | 14:40 |
| ikonia | please please please release hardy now | 14:41 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: so such a build would have to be in a separate repo - sort of like Christian Marillat's repos. right? | 14:41 |
| Pici | ikonia: I was JUST typing something to that effect | 14:41 |
| Fujitsu | Yes. And that would get you looked on badly. | 14:41 |
| Fujitsu | Best to fix the Ubuntu package. | 14:42 |
| Fujitsu | Get the Altivec detection working. | 14:42 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: Agreed | 14:42 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: I personally don't have the expertise to do that, unfortunately | 14:42 |
| Fujitsu | Have you tried Hardy? | 14:42 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: I'm running hardy, but not on pppc yet | 14:43 |
| Fujitsu | Although labelled as a second release candidate, MPlayer 1.0rc2 has huge changes. | 14:43 |
| Fujitsu | Enough to warrant a major version bump, really. | 14:43 |
| Fujitsu | So it might be fixed. | 14:43 |
| thoreauputic | interesting | 14:43 |
| Fujitsu | But you never know what those strange, strange mplayer undevelopers are doing. | 14:43 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: heheh - I know what you mean :) | 14:43 |
| Fujitsu | They take a year between release candidates and rewrite half the build system and rearrange all of the libraries. Makes so much sense. | 14:44 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: in spite of that, they've managed to produce a rather impressive piece of software. They even seem to be *slightly* less arrogant than they were a few years ago ;-) | 14:45 |
| Fujitsu | They still maintain that ffmpeg doesn't need releases. | 14:45 |
| Fujitsu | Nor a stable ABI. | 14:45 |
| Fujitsu | *API | 14:45 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: so basically, it's a nightmare maintaining it, right? | 14:46 |
| Fujitsu | Pretty much. | 14:46 |
| Fujitsu | And the frequent security updates don't help. | 14:47 |
| Fujitsu | And it has about as many dependencies as anything can have. | 14:47 |
| thoreauputic | I get the impression they want it to do *everything* including putting the cat out and washing the dishes | 14:48 |
| Fujitsu | That's a bit of a conservative estimate of their problem domain. | 14:50 |
| thoreauputic | :D | 14:50 |
| thoreauputic | Fujitsu: well, just for the record, in case you thought I was complaining - you are doing a good job with mplayer on the supported archs :) So thanks... | 14:54 |
| Fujitsu | Some people don't care about other archs - it only build on i386 and amd64 after somebody else made a change. | 14:55 |
| nalioth | powerpc has always been the red-headed-stepchild, anyway | 14:57 |
| Fujitsu | And then there's hppa. And ia64. | 14:58 |
| thoreauputic | I noticed that Debian Sid has mplayer in main - did Debian strip out patent-encumbred stuff to do that? | 14:58 |
| Pici | Could we please clear some bans out of #ubuntu+1 | 14:58 |
| Fujitsu | Pici: Bah, it'll be closed in 24 hours. | 14:58 |
| Pici | 24 long hours | 14:58 |
| Pici | I can't even mute a flooding user because the ban list is full | 14:59 |
| Fujitsu | They'll be longer if more people are let in. | 14:59 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 14:59 |
| nalioth | Pici: use /remove | 14:59 |
| Pici | nalioth: I did | 14:59 |
| * nalioth thinks we are using the banstick FAR TOO MUCH for teh stupidest stuff | 14:59 | |
| Pici | It was going to be a mute until they stopped pasting | 15:00 |
| nalioth | a /remove stops pasting | 15:00 |
| Pici | Indeed. | 15:00 |
| nalioth | most pastes are accidential or out of ignorance | 15:01 |
| nalioth | a /remove and a !tell so-n-so about pastebin usually suffices | 15:01 |
| Pici | Yep, that would have worked tooo | 15:02 |
| nalioth | we have gotten far away from what Ubuntu stands for | 15:02 |
| Pici | nalioth: I only would have kept the mute on until the user stopped the paste, while also giving them the !paste factoid. I don't really see a difference between doing that and removing them from the channel with the same message. | 15:04 |
| Pici | Enlighten me if there is a difference. | 15:04 |
| nalioth | a /remove doesn't take up a ban slot. a /remove doen'st require any more action on your part. what if the person pasted something extraordinarilly long? what if the person pasted something extraordinarilly short? | 15:05 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: I think nalioth's observation was meant generally, not directed at you | 15:05 |
| nalioth | a /remove allows them to come back on their initiative, not anyone elses | 15:05 |
| nalioth | i can understnad if this was efnet or somwehere w/o the services freenode offers | 15:06 |
| Pici | nalioth: Makes sense, I'll try to do that from now on then :) | 15:07 |
| Pici | Oh, I already have /paste aliased to do just that /me smacks his forehead | 15:07 |
| thoreauputic | the only down side I can see is that the /remove needs to be immediate, so the !tell foo about paste is only seen if the user rejoins? | 15:08 |
| nalioth | !tell thoreauputic about paste | 15:08 |
| Pici | thoreauputic: No, tell foo about stuff sends a pm | 15:08 |
| thoreauputic | ah of course... OK my mistake | 15:09 |
| === ubot3` is now known as ubot3 | ||
| ubotu | In ubotu, Mimi said: When is hardy going to be released? | 15:20 |
| Pici | .... | 15:21 |
| PriceChild | haha | 15:21 |
| Fujitsu | Is publishing pool URLs a capital offense yet? | 15:23 |
| Hobbsee | likely | 15:23 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: there's no indication that they're final, yet | 15:23 |
| Fujitsu | I'm aware. | 15:24 |
| Fujitsu | And the pool is even empty. | 15:24 |
| Fujitsu | But people are still publishing URLs.. kill! | 15:24 |
| Hobbsee | i presume that they'll only push to pool when they're sure they're done | 15:25 |
| Fujitsu | Right, but then people will publish the URLs, and thousands of people will slow down the mirroring. | 15:26 |
| Fujitsu | As well as publicising the release early. | 15:26 |
| Fujitsu | Which is why they're in .pool in the first place. | 15:26 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yeesh. public channels and al... | 15:27 |
| * PriceChild covers everyone's eyes | 15:27 | |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: that being said, they don't hit .pool until they're known final, do they? | 15:27 |
| Fujitsu | Not usually. | 15:27 |
| Hobbsee | didn't think so | 15:28 |
| popey | yay | 15:42 |
| popey | message added to the .pool | 15:42 |
| popey | that'll help a litle | 15:42 |
| Pici | unless they link directly to the isos | 15:43 |
| ikonia | could someone in #ubuntu+1 check why I parted ? | 15:46 |
| ikonia | I've just noticed I left the channel without me meaning to | 15:46 |
| Pici | ikonia: connection reset by peer @ 17:42:11 (its 10:47:06 now) | 15:46 |
| ikonia | Pici: thanks, thats odd, just one channel | 15:47 |
| Pici | so, yesterday I suppose | 15:47 |
| ikonia | not to worry, thank you | 15:47 |
| Seeker` | would it not be better to scp the files to each mirror, and keep the directory forbidden from the web? | 15:50 |
| ikonia | block all hardy repos | 15:53 |
| ikonia | please | 15:53 |
| ikonia | until launch | 15:53 |
| Pici | Lets turn off Freenode and until the release | 15:53 |
| ikonia | even better | 15:53 |
| * Hobbsee changes the topic | 15:54 | |
| Hobbsee | heh | 15:54 |
| Seeker` | someone should put a file on the servers containing nothing but "Wait until it is ready" over and over, and call it Ubuntu-8.04.iso | 16:01 |
| Jack_Sparrow | :) | 16:01 |
| Seeker` | or "This is where the iso would be if you waited until we released it" | 16:02 |
| Seeker` | and then limit the upload speed to 20k/s, so it would take everyone hours to get | 16:03 |
| Hobbsee | argh, no. | 16:04 |
| Hobbsee | people are still testing it | 16:04 |
| Hobbsee | and it's slow already. | 16:04 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: that is genius ! | 16:05 |
| Seeker` | are the hardy final servers the same as all the other isos? | 16:06 |
| ikonia | shouldn't be | 16:06 |
| ikonia | oh servers | 16:06 |
| ikonia | thought you meant images | 16:06 |
| Pici | servers? | 16:06 |
| Seeker` | there must be a wy of getting isos to the mirrors without having them publicly accessible to the web | 16:07 |
| ikonia | change the permissions on them | 16:07 |
| Pici | sneakernet | 16:07 |
| Hobbsee | Seeker`: there isn't. | 16:07 |
| Hobbsee | not really | 16:07 |
| Seeker` | Hobbsee: why not? | 16:07 |
| Hobbsee | Seeker`: not unless you're going to whitelist all the IP's or something | 16:07 |
| Seeker` | scp? | 16:07 |
| Seeker` | each mirror sends an ssh key or something | 16:08 |
| Seeker` | the files get scpd over, and dont have to go anywhere near the public facing webserver | 16:08 |
| * Hobbsee snorts | 16:08 | |
| Hobbsee | getting ssh access into canonical isn't esay. | 16:08 |
| Seeker` | or canonical can scp over to the mirrors | 16:09 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, ssh access into canonical is easy. It's getting out that's hard (or so I've heard) | 16:11 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: then why don't i have it? | 16:12 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, I meant there are routes in if you have the credentials - but it's harder to get out ;) | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: sure, for loco machines and that. | 16:13 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: i meant for core canonical ones | 16:13 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, ssh'ing into them is probably easy (if you're within the internal network) | 16:14 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: sure, it's just getting into chinstrap.... | 16:14 |
| jdong | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4771691#post4771691 | 16:15 |
| Mez | Hobbsee, sit outside the office and crack the Wireless wep key ? :P | 16:15 |
| jdong | I've added a notice like that regarding pool URLs and Hardy | 16:15 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: haha | 16:15 |
| Mez | jdong, btw - grats on the vB upgrade ;) | 16:15 |
| jdong | how's the policy here regarding such activities? | 16:15 |
| jdong | Mez: it's certainly fun | 16:15 |
| jdong | :D | 16:15 |
| Mez | jdong, you have NO idea... | 16:16 |
| jdong | Mez: load averages above 220 are SEXY | 16:16 |
| Mez | jdong - you're getting high load averages? | 16:16 |
| Mez | It's not noticable from outside. | 16:16 |
| jdong | Mez: ridiculously high before Ryan restored some tweaks | 16:16 |
| Mez | what tweaks? | 16:16 |
| jdong | Mez: right after the upgrade we were sustaining close to 100-200 | 16:17 |
| * Mez would be interested in seeing some of them | 16:17 | |
| jdong | Mez: caching the CSS, offloading database reads to a 2nd server | 16:17 |
| Mez | jdong, ah... | 16:17 |
| jdong | Mez: i.e. tweaks that we wouldn't need if Canonical gives us properly powered equipment | 16:17 |
| Mez | jdong, hehe - do you have access to the code? | 16:17 |
| jdong | Mez: go tell a vB community 1/4 our size that we are given one frontend webserver and one database server with less than 4GiB combined RAM | 16:17 |
| jdong | Mez: they will point and laugh. | 16:17 |
| * Seeker` still thinks there must be better ways of doing the distribution | 16:17 | |
| jdong | Seeker`: oh we can ALWAYS do it the Redhat way, block access to everyone else not on a mirror whitelist | 16:18 |
| Seeker` | why not do that? | 16:19 |
| jdong | Seeker`: it's not very open in spirit. | 16:19 |
| jdong | Seeker`: why don't we offer premium download slots to Ubuntu members while we're at it too? | 16:19 |
| Pici | Great idea | 16:19 |
| jdong | RapidUbuntuShare! | 16:19 |
| Seeker` | jdong: there is a difference between premium download slots and stopping people screwing over the bandwidth on the servers before they can be distributed to the mirrors | 16:21 |
| popey | !party needs updating | 16:23 |
| Seeker` | jdong: I'm not suggesting doing it full time, just while stuff is being pushed to mirrors | 16:23 |
| popey | !party | 16:23 |
| ubotu | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Gutsy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseParties | 16:23 |
| popey | ^ see | 16:23 |
| Pici | !party =~ s/Gutsy/Hardy/g | 16:24 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Pici said: !party =~ s/Gutsy/Hardy/g | 16:24 |
| Pici | dumb bot | 16:24 |
| ubotu | In ubotu, thoreauputic said: party is [reply] Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 16:25 |
| Pici | popey: fixed | 16:25 |
| popey | cool | 16:25 |
| thoreauputic | Umm not quite | 16:25 |
| Pici | !hardy | 16:25 |
| ubotu | Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now! | 16:25 |
| Pici | !party | 16:25 |
| ubotu | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 16:25 |
| Pici | thoreauputic: why not? | 16:26 |
| thoreauputic | ah OK looks right now | 16:26 |
| thoreauputic | :) | 16:26 |
| Pici | Also, ubotu doesnt support /g | 16:26 |
| thoreauputic | ? /g ? | 16:26 |
| Pici | thoreauputic: for applying replacement regexes globally | 16:27 |
| Seeker` | s/x/y/g | 16:27 |
| thoreauputic | Oh you mean it won't do two changes with s/ /g | 16:27 |
| Pici | or maybe I have the syntax wrong | 16:27 |
| thoreauputic | right | 16:27 |
| Pici | not that anyone reads the topic anyway though | 16:43 |
| Seeker` | channels have a topic? | 16:45 |
| d4t4min3r | im having issues | 16:55 |
| d4t4min3r | first my google is messed up now I can't join #ubuntu | 16:55 |
| d4t4min3r | when I try to sign into google I get.. secure connection failed, invalid security certificate | 16:56 |
| d4t4min3r | now I can't join #ubuntu... can anyone help me | 16:56 |
| Mez | d4t4min3r, I dont see any bans matching you in there | 16:58 |
| Mez | Seveas, be nice if /cs bans returned a "no bans found" if there are none found | 16:58 |
| d4t4min3r | FloodBot1: d4t4min3r: Hello, You can't « /join #ubuntu » because of a problem with your connection. Please type « /topic » and read the instructions. | 16:59 |
| d4t4min3r | I can't login to google either | 17:00 |
| d4t4min3r | (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate) | 17:00 |
| Mez | d4t4min3r, read the topic then | 17:00 |
| d4t4min3r | I did | 17:00 |
| d4t4min3r | and it won't let me type | 17:00 |
| d4t4min3r | test me | 17:00 |
| Mez | one sec | 17:00 |
| Seveas | !staff | <humeyra> seldaank07@ | 17:00 |
| Seveas | hmm, ubotu ? | 17:01 |
| Mez | d4t4min3r, try now | 17:01 |
| Dave2 | gone,thanks | 17:01 |
| Mez | <+FloodBot1> d4t4min3r has requested an exploit test | 17:01 |
| Mez | <+FloodBot1> d4t4min3r has been removed from the exploit quarantine | 17:02 |
| Mez | yep, you're in | 17:02 |
| d4t4min3r | yeah | 17:02 |
| d4t4min3r | I don't know what's wrong with google | 17:02 |
| d4t4min3r | I keep getting that error | 17:02 |
| Seveas | restarted him | 17:03 |
| Pici | thoreauputic: a mute? | 18:08 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: yes | 18:09 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: I will remove it | 18:09 |
| thoreauputic | but the guy was continuing | 18:09 |
| thoreauputic | OK he needs a ban I think... | 18:10 |
| Pici | thoreauputic: done | 18:11 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: yes thanks - you beat me to it :) | 18:11 |
| Pici | Ugh, the trolls/clueless users are out in full force today | 18:12 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: oh yes... the madness is always higher at release time | 18:12 |
| thoreauputic | everyone goes nuts simultaneously :) | 18:13 |
| Pici | odd | 18:13 |
| Pici | 13:10:41 <FloodBot1> Speedy sent 4.5 messages while muted | 18:13 |
| thoreauputic | Heh - right - then I unmuted him. I should have left it... | 18:14 |
| thoreauputic | how does the bot figure half a message ? | 18:14 |
| thoreauputic | :) | 18:14 |
| Pici | No idea | 18:15 |
| Pici | First time I've ever seen that | 18:15 |
| thoreauputic | heheh - the bots are mad too it seems | 18:15 |
| tomaw | algul is privmsg spamming users in #ubuntu. I kicked him. | 18:19 |
| thoreauputic | ah I saw the kick - thanks for the explanation | 18:21 |
| thoreauputic | tomaw: you didn't ban him? A kick means he can return... | 18:22 |
| tomaw | if he continues to spam I'll ban him from the network anyway | 18:23 |
| Pici | I think tomaw knows what a ban does ;) | 18:23 |
| thoreauputic | tomaw: right - I didn't look at your /whois :) | 18:23 |
| thoreauputic | Pici: indeed :) | 18:24 |
| tomaw | :) | 18:24 |
| === nixternal is now known as lanretxin | ||
| === lanretxin is now known as nixternal | ||
| tonyyarusso | haha, #ubuntu is spiting my comment of last night. We've jumped by almost 300 nicks since then. | 20:16 |
| Pici | #ubuntu+1 is also hitting record population levels today | 20:17 |
| tonyyarusso | just try to keep them relevant to testing | 20:18 |
| Pici | I'm trying | 20:18 |
| tonyyarusso | gl :) | 20:19 |
| Pici | I think the offtopicness has migrated itself to -release-party | 20:19 |
| ikonia | did anyone get spam from susanno ? | 20:45 |
| ikonia | susanoo sorry | 20:45 |
| Seveas | not me | 20:45 |
| ikonia | 18:36 <susanoo> join yellowdog | 20:46 |
| ikonia | I'll take it to freenode | 20:46 |
| Seveas | Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud! | 20:48 |
| Seveas | ubotu is again restarting | 20:48 |
| Seveas | I had to disable the bantracker | 20:48 |
| tonyyarusso | oh dear | 20:48 |
| Mez | Seveas, I'll chase on the exception | 20:49 |
| Seveas | it simply couldn't take it anymore, sqlite isn't built for what I threw at it | 20:50 |
| Seveas | database *should* be intact, but I cannot check right now | 20:51 |
| tonyyarusso | -r-p is over 200 now. probably time to start babysitting. | 21:03 |
| Seeker` | tonyyarusso: invent a new game. Someone gets a mute every minute that lasts for 10 minutes | 21:12 |
| * PriceChild wonders where the code for that xkcd bot is | 21:14 | |
| Myrtti | If I plan to get any work done, it's better if I don't do any babysitting | 21:15 |
| Seveas | PriceChild, :D | 21:18 |
| PriceChild | Someone knows which one I'm talking about. | 21:19 |
| mneptok | PriceChild: i could prolly get it | 21:20 |
| Seeker` | PriceChild: what does it do?o? | 21:20 |
| PriceChild | http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/ | 21:20 |
| PriceChild | (source etc. is there also) | 21:21 |
| ikonia | please fix ubotu in #ubuntu I'm bored of typing manually "hardy" | 21:44 |
| Seeker` | ikonia: join a clone called "hardy", then tab complete | 21:48 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: nice idea, but I meant the whole "hi, hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+1 please take you discussion there" | 21:48 |
| Seeker` | use !hardy? | 21:49 |
| ikonia | bot is dead | 21:49 |
| stdin | give it a while to re-join all the channels | 21:49 |
| Seeker` | ah, ok | 21:50 |
| Seeker` | !party | 22:09 |
| ubotu | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 22:09 |
| Seeker` | !parties | 22:09 |
| ubotu | Find yourself an Ubuntu Release Party at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseParties | 22:09 |
| stdin | dapper? | 22:09 |
| Seeker` | !parties is Find yourself an Ubuntu Release Party at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 22:10 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Seeker` said: !parties is Find yourself an Ubuntu Release Party at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 22:10 |
| * Seeker` wonders if Mez is the Mez he knows from irc.xkcd.com | 22:11 | |
| Mez | lol | 22:11 |
| Mez | I could be, if you're the same Seeker` | 22:12 |
| Seeker` | :) | 22:12 |
| Mez | /cs timedmute Mez 4s | 22:12 |
| Pici | !parties is <alias> party | 22:40 |
| ubotu | In #ubuntu-ops, Pici said: !parties is <alias> party | 22:40 |
| Pici | ... | 22:40 |
| Pici | @login | 22:40 |
| ubotu | OK | 22:40 |
| Pici | !parties is <alias> party | 22:40 |
| ubotu | But parties already means something else! | 22:40 |
| Pici | !no parties is <alias> party | 22:40 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that Pici | 22:40 |
| mneptok | no parties | 22:40 |
| Pici | no dancing | 22:55 |
| ompaul | !party | 22:59 |
| ubotu | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties | 22:59 |
| stdin | braskd, InvisiblePinkUni: anything we can help with? | 23:10 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Hi, I was banned from #ubuntu-release-party for no reason. Please let me in. | 23:10 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | stdin: Atleast I should be told why I was being banned. :-( | 23:11 |
| Seveas | the word 'nazi' is not welcome. Which was said in the kickmessage | 23:11 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Seveas: I was only saying it as a Sarcasm, like "Spelling Nazi". | 23:12 |
| Seveas | InvisiblePinkUni, still not welcome. | 23:12 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Seveas: :-( | 23:13 |
| nalioth | InvisiblePinkUni: any usage is not welcome | 23:13 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Ok sorry, didn't know that. | 23:13 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | nalioth: But I didn't know that. Someone should have told me before banning me :-( | 23:14 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | nalioth: And I was using it like they do in Slashdot. For fun. | 23:14 |
| Seveas | nazi's aren't fun. | 23:14 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Seveas: But Spelling Nazi's are. :-) | 23:15 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | See... | 23:15 |
| Seveas | InvisiblePinkUni, you're making good progress to be banned from here as well | 23:15 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Nooooo.... | 23:15 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Sorry. | 23:15 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Won't speak that word. | 23:15 |
| elkbuntu | InvisiblePinkUni, a joke does not make the phrase any more appropriate. that's like me calling your mother something nasty, but trying to void the nastiness with 'but it was a joke!' | 23:15 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Ok, Sorry, Didn't realize that. | 23:16 |
| Seveas | !staff | <hellues> rise against state of union | 23:17 |
| Seveas | random nonsense spewing bot | 23:17 |
| * InvisiblePinkUni requests to remove my ban. | 23:17 | |
| * ompaul counts the seconds | 23:17 | |
| elkbuntu | Seveas, as opposed to the collection of random nonsense spewing people we have | 23:17 |
| ompaul | elkbuntu, be nice | 23:18 |
| nalioth | InvisiblePinkUni: it'll be removed when it is removed | 23:18 |
| elkbuntu | InvisiblePinkUni, give it about 10 minutes | 23:18 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Ok. | 23:18 |
| elkbuntu | ompaul, i'm referring to mneptok | 23:18 |
| Seveas | grmpf, what's up with that stupid bot | 23:18 |
| * InvisiblePinkUni sits silently. | 23:18 | |
| ompaul | mneptok, pingingness | 23:18 |
| Seveas | !ping | 23:18 |
| ubotu | ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore | 23:18 |
| elkbuntu | ehhehe, off to work, im already late leaving :-/ | 23:18 |
| Seveas | wtf | 23:18 |
| Seveas | !staff | 23:18 |
| ubotu | Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) | 23:18 |
| Seveas | there we fo | 23:19 |
| ompaul | <Seveas> !staff | <hellues> rise against state of union | 23:19 |
| nalioth | !seveas | 23:19 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | elkbuntu: you from NZ? | 23:19 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about seveas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 23:19 |
| nalioth | ubotu: NO??? HORRORS!!!! | 23:19 |
| Seveas | probably | and > biting each other | 23:19 |
| mneptok | ompaul: heya | 23:20 |
| Seveas | InvisiblePinkUni, this is not an idling channel -- if you have nothing further to discuss, please leave | 23:20 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Can someone post me website where there is a countdown? So that I can watch it. | 23:21 |
| tonyyarusso | there are no countdowns | 23:21 |
| tonyyarusso | there is no time | 23:21 |
| tonyyarusso | nor spoons | 23:21 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Seveas: Oh ok. I will leave soon. | 23:21 |
| ompaul | nor cake or ponies | 23:21 |
| Seveas | InvisiblePinkUni, soon, as in now? | 23:21 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Just waiting to get back to release party, hoping someone here will remove my ban there. | 23:21 |
| Tm_T | hi kids | 23:22 |
| InvisiblePinkUni | Seveas: I won't speak that word again. I didn't knwo about it. | 23:22 |
| Myrtti | hello luv | 23:22 |
| ompaul | got a new motor | 23:26 |
| Seeker` | ompaul: cool. Is there anything attached to it? | 23:28 |
| ompaul | Seeker`, I was thinking more of the east enders kind of thing and for some reason "hello luv" triggered that sentence | 23:29 |
| jtmonz | stdin == lame | 23:51 |
| Tm_T | jtmonz: was? | 23:51 |
| jtmonz | kicked me for saying the word "rape" in #ubuntu-release-party | 23:51 |
| jtmonz | give me a break | 23:51 |
| Fujitsu | Rightly so. | 23:51 |
| jtmonz | are you serious? | 23:51 |
| jtmonz | i said "steve jobs rapes people on hardware prices" | 23:51 |
| jtmonz | KICK@#$! | 23:51 |
| Seveas | jtmonz, if you think that word is ever appropriate, you're not welcome | 23:51 |
| Seveas | so either apologize or leave | 23:52 |
| jtmonz | apologize for using rape in that context? | 23:52 |
| Seveas | and for alling stdin lame | 23:52 |
| stdin | you also asked "what do you have up your ass?" | 23:52 |
| jtmonz | god, i'd hate to see what happens if someone uses a proper curse word | 23:52 |
| jtmonz | why is everyone so uptight? | 23:52 |
| Seveas | jtmonz, last chance, apologize or leave | 23:52 |
| nalioth | jtmonz: this is #ubuntu | 23:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Because we have standards in this community. | 23:52 |
| jtmonz | if i apologize, will the ban be lifted? | 23:53 |
| nalioth | civility is not so hard to exhibit | 23:53 |
| jtmonz | why the ultimatum? | 23:53 |
| Seveas | not immediately | 23:53 |
| jtmonz | i'd like to extent my sincere apology for using the horrible, inexcusable word known as rape | 23:53 |
| jtmonz | *extend | 23:54 |
| jtmonz | what was i thinking? | 23:54 |
| jtmonz | i'll never know | 23:54 |
| jtmonz | i mean, i heard it on the news the other day | 23:54 |
| jtmonz | SHOULD HAVE BEEN RATED R THAT LOCAL NEWS | 23:54 |
| Seveas | jtmonz, ah well, if only it was a sincere apologt | 23:54 |
| Seveas | <jtmonz> if only! | 23:55 |
| Seveas | <jtmonz> do you think i give a shit you faggot? | 23:55 |
| Tm_T | . | 23:55 |
| Seveas | <jtmonz> get the fuck over yourself | 23:55 |
| stdin | oh, you should see what I got in the /msg | 23:55 |
| Tm_T | stdin: please share | 23:55 |
| stdin | basically enquiring if it was my "time of the month" | 23:55 |
| Seveas | <jtmonz> forgot one | 23:55 |
| Seveas | <jtmonz> god, you really are a coward | 23:55 |
| stdin | but using cruder language | 23:56 |
| * nalioth says with an evil grin, " I bet I could get -r-p to clear itself. " | 23:56 | |
| Fujitsu | What a lovely character. | 23:56 |
| Seveas | nalioth, bet you can | 23:56 |
| Seveas | ah, he's now googling | 23:59 |
| Seveas | found my hackergotchi | 23:59 |
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