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Nithsudo apt-get install moves00:00
Bidgetwell nobody is going to answer questions about 8.04 here so....00:00
atlefnewbie: yes they have00:00
BidgetI guess you'll just have to keep trying00:00
Newbuntu_usercan somebody help me with surround sound?00:00
atlefnewbie: sorry, it was not to you00:00
proqBidget: there are several, but have different uses00:00
atlefdisregard last post00:01
Bidgetproq, well basically I am trying to bind my media keys to "xmms --play-pause, xmms --stop" etc. I have a program called xbindkeys, but I don't know what my computer recognizes any of the keys as so I can't bind the commands to them00:01
atlefneed to pay attention00:01
Bidgetproq, so basically all I need is a utility that will tell me the name of the key when I press it00:02
Bidgetproq, and xev didnt work00:02
vinnyhello00:02
ZemusI just tried parted magic on two different computers.00:02
atlefZemus: still no luck?00:02
zvacetvinny ! ask00:02
ZemusIt made the first one shut down out of the blue. Twice. The second one it is simply hung on the booting screen.00:02
ZemusI could try it on this one, but somehow I have less than high hopes.00:02
vinnywhat is the developers channel?00:02
NithBidget: xbindkeys-config is a frontend00:03
buckieHi guys, im trying to forward a port on my router - what is the diffrence between the filtering layer : Raw ip and port filtering ?00:03
BidgetNith, meaning...?00:03
NithBidget: it'll let you do the whole "press the button you'd like to bind" and then bind via xbindkeys00:03
ZemusThe only thing I've found that works every single time is partition magic, but unfortunately I can't find a torrent for that that is bootable.00:03
atlefZemus: i have used on three different machines00:03
BidgetNith, it doesn't detect the media keys thats why Im trying to find out what theyre called so I can do it manually00:03
Zemusatlef, glad you have better luck.00:03
NithBidget: xbindkeys-config doesn't detect the media keys?00:04
BidgetNith, no00:04
atlefZemus: have you tried any "cheat codes" ?00:04
Mark_GBidget: what keyboard is it?00:04
proqBidget: dumpkeys might work with xmms, not sure00:04
BidgetMark_G, logitech g1500:04
Bidgetproq, I'll try out dumpkeys, thanks00:04
NithBidget: sorry, I've never had that. Gnome's keybindings gave me issues but not xbindkeys-config00:04
Zemusatlef, no...00:04
jhoc2xim back.. ^_^00:04
buckieHi guys, im trying to forward a port on my router - what is the diffrence between the filtering layer : Raw ip and port filtering ?00:04
BidgetNith, well the funny thing is if I use the gnome's keybinding it will detect the keys just fine, but for some reason it wont execute the commands to control xmms haha00:05
mawis there an issue updating libqt3 from 7.10 base install?00:05
vinnywhat for your g15?00:05
Newbuntu_userI'm not getting anything from my rear channels only front00:05
maweverytime I do a new install adept-updater fails there00:05
NithBidget: /etc/acpi/ is where all the scripts are. If you know a bit of scripting you can start there00:06
jhoc2xare there any known VIRUS in ubuntu?00:06
vinnyno00:06
vinnyjust commands that are evil00:06
BidgetNith, uhh... I dunno if thats something I'd be successful at hahaha00:06
Mark_GBidget: I tried with a logitech wave and had nothing but problems.. I switched to the Microsoft comfort curve 2000 wired and now use "Keytouch" to manage the keys.  Works great. Have you looked at Keytouch?  It's in the repos and other instructions are here.  http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/index.php00:06
LinuxGuy1234jhoc2x: no. Ubuntu is safe from them.00:06
con-mana virus in linux?00:06
vinnythat the user has to input the bad codes in00:06
LinuxGuy1234con-man: no00:06
con-manI suppose if you use wine to execute one00:06
BidgetMark_G, thanks mark I'll check out keytouch, hopefully that will work :D00:06
proqjhoc2x: there were a few a while back00:06
ubuntucool123has anyone got compiz working on Mobility Radeon 7500 and Ubuntu 8.04 RC?00:06
RodGoHow can i create an image of an installation i make on one computer, so i can install the same image on other pcs with the same hardware characteristics00:07
atlefZemus: press f1 for options00:07
con-manyou could get a virus00:07
NithBidget: con-man generally linux virus's are known as root kits00:07
RodGoany help would be appreciated00:07
LinuxGuy1234con-man: no00:07
zvacetRodGo :clone00:07
Nithcon-man: more correctly, we get root-kits, not generally virus's00:07
RodGoclone? where can i found documentation about it00:07
ubuntucool123?00:07
LinuxGuy1234con-man: rootkits meaning 'gain root rights on a Linux system'00:08
Mark_GRodGo: use Partimage.. easy00:08
zvacet   RodGo :                      http://www.ubuntugeek.com/clone-your-ubuntu-installation.html00:08
proqcon-man: there are ubuntu packages for detecting rootkits00:08
con-manLinuxGuy1234: sounds like what a windows virus does... except with windows xp you are logged in as admin all the time so its piss easy00:08
proqcon-man: sorry, that was for jhoc2x00:09
RodGois this works if i want to install 2 S.O's like windows and linux in different partitions?00:09
bitformanyone know where the trash folder is located in Hardy Heron???00:09
con-manproq: thats ok00:09
mawwhere does the adept manager pid live? I cant start the program, says it is "running"00:09
ubuntucool123has anyone got compiz working on Mobility Radeon 7500 with Hardy Release Candidate00:09
Mark_GRodGo: are you talking to me?00:09
Newbuntu_usercan anyone see my msgs?00:09
Unix_Shellbottom of the screen right hand corner for trash on my Hardy install00:09
atlef!hardy | ubuntucool123:00:09
ubotuubuntucool123:: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!00:09
zvacetRodGo : It sholud work but I have to  tell you I never tried it.00:09
* Mark_G wonders if Newbuntu_user is typing anything00:10
LinuxGuy1234maw: use KDE System Guard00:10
RodGook ty vm00:10
RodGo^^00:10
Newbuntu_userlol00:10
con-manNewbuntu_user: I can see them fine.  Ubuntu by default works with surround sound00:10
bitformI'm looking for the actual folder name. It's no longer in my home directory under .Trashes00:10
jacob_what's a better gdm or kdm display manager, what ever that is00:10
TehLulzehow do I get a folder to be shared over samba?00:10
Unix_Shellahhh00:10
newbiedoes anyone knows how I can disable a default driver for a wireless card and replace it for another?00:10
Newbuntu_userOh that's odd, I'm not getting surround on my default settings00:10
mawLinuxGuy1234: why? Surely if adept is the program that ubuntu uses for updating it will *work* right?00:10
con-manNewbuntu_user: is surround working at all, as in, can you turn the front  l&r off and get sound from centre only?00:10
andre_pldoes anyone know how to automate tty-login? (ie. NO Xorg)00:11
jacob_what is better recommended? gdm or kdm?00:11
TehLulzehow do I share a folder over samba?00:11
Newbuntu_useri have 4.1 surround so i don't have a center. i can't control the rear volume at all00:11
con-manNewbuntu_user: Im trying to figure out if its your rear speakers not working, or Ubuntu is outputting stereo00:11
newbiemaw, was your answer for me?00:11
Newbuntu_useri don't see an option00:11
mawno00:11
LinuxGuy1234maw: It's different for the other desktop editions, update-manager is used in Ubintu, for example00:11
tonyyarussojacob_: Personal preference.  Generally, GDM goes along with Gnome and KDM with KDE, but if you use both, either way is fine.00:11
tonyyarusso!samba | TehLulze00:12
ubotuTehLulze: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:12
Newbuntu_userOn windows, it's fine.  I get sound from all 4 speakers but on ubuntu, only the front ones00:12
LinuxGuy1234Why does Gusty not have the latest gcc?00:12
ExlaxI downloaded the nvidia .run to update my video drivers, but it says i have to exit x server. How do i do that?00:12
newbie!modprobe00:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:12
suweidI wanna bet that this is the most popular question tonight - will there be an easy update for those of us with 7.10, or do I need to "flush" the system clean?00:12
tonyyarussoLinuxGuy1234: update-manager has both Gnome and KDE versions.  The Gnome equivalent to adept is synaptic.00:12
LinuxGuy1234Exlax: reboot00:12
ExlaxLinuxGuy1234: I did.00:12
tonyyarussoLinuxGuy1234: Because it's six months old.00:13
con-manNewbuntu_user: what drivers are you using? OSS or alsa?00:13
Newbuntu_useralsa i think00:13
Newbuntu_userhow do i check?00:13
tonyyarussoExlax: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart, or ctrl-alt-backspace, iirc.00:13
LinuxGuy1234Exlax: reboot 3 times. Might work.00:13
zvacet     RodGo :                  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage00:14
Exlaxtonyyarusso, : thanks.00:14
con-manNewbuntu_user: from the system menu go to preferences and then sound00:14
Bidgetso I checked out keytouch, it doesn't support my keyboard00:14
Bidgetcan anyone tell me where I would find dumpkeys?00:14
LinuxGuy1234My Acer Aspire 5315 laptop runs Ubuntu fine.00:14
bitformOK. I just found where the trash folder is located in Gnome 2.22. It's under ~/.local/share/Trash/00:15
bbyevermy swap partition is not being used, how can i fix this?00:15
h00kbbyever, that can be okay - that means it doesn't need to00:15
Newbuntu_userI'm using Kubuntu at the moment, is there a way to check here?00:15
FastZbbyever: your swap partition is only used when you run out of RAM00:15
LinuxGuy1234bbyver: use swapon /dev/xxxx where xxxx is your swap partition00:15
zvacetbbyever : swapon00:15
h00kbbyever, how much RAM do you use?00:15
con-manNewbuntu_user: when you message me back, try to prefix with my name "con-man" as it highlights on my screen so I can see it from all the other junk00:15
bbyeverzvacet: FastZ: thanks00:16
bbyeverh00k: about 700 mb max00:16
con-manNewbuntu_user: not too sure, type alsamixer in a console00:16
Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok. like this?00:16
con-manNewbuntu_user: yep, like that :)00:16
cjaecan I use a razr2 on ubuntu?00:16
Newbuntu_userconman: yes i get volume control wen i type that in console00:17
FastZcjae: to do what?00:17
FastZcjae: and i assume you are talking about the phone right?00:17
cjaeFastZ, yes00:17
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con-manNewbuntu_user: use your arrors to go side to side, do you have the rear speaker controls in there?00:17
con-manNewbuntu_user: *arrows00:18
FastZcjae: what are you trying to do with it?00:18
cjaeFastZ, file transfers and download upload phone lists00:18
Newbuntu_usercon-man: i don't see rear speaker controls00:18
con-manNewbuntu_user: they are labeled surround00:19
FastZcjae: http://veinhammer.wordpress.com/2006/05/18/motorola-razr-ubuntu-linux/00:19
Newbuntu_userconman: o yes i see it, it maxed00:19
J-Unitcon-man, r u talkin bout surround sound speakers?00:19
con-manJ-Unit: he isnt get sound out of his rear speakers00:19
FastZcjae: looks like there is a program called Moto4Lin that allows you to see the filesystem on your motorolla phone00:19
FastZgotta go folks, see you in a little bit00:19
FastZgood luck cjae:00:20
J-Unitcon-man, is there software to determine if my rear/center speakers work?00:20
zvacetsee you00:20
J-Unitcon-man, i have logitech x-530 and am running gutsy 32 bit00:20
cjaeFastZ, thanks just saw that as u pasted it00:20
con-manJ-Unit: you can plug the rear speakers in to the front jack, or in to a discman/mp3 player00:20
con-manJ-Unit: if you hear sound, its not the speakers, its the settings on the computer00:20
ExlaxI installed the Nvidia drivers, but now xorg.conf is broken. How do i rebuild it?00:21
Newbuntu_usercon-man: i'm still not getting anything from my rear00:21
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con-manNewbuntu_user:  I'm not sure, as I don't know where to find sound driver settings in Kubuntu00:22
con-man!alsa |  Newbuntu_user00:22
ubotuNewbuntu_user: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP300:22
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Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok i'll switch to ubuntu brb00:23
jvacguys what's the apt-get line for all the media codecs?00:23
J-Unitcon-man, cant i use software to test?00:23
Bidgetcan anyone help me bind my media keys to control xmms? I've tried the compiz>general options>commands, xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config, keytouch, and I've also tried the keyboard shortcuts in system>preferences... none of them work... anyone know what I can try?00:25
mamba_hi trying to install iwlwifi3945 drivers on a new compiled kernel but get error can someone tell me stepbystep which thing i have to install?00:25
jvacguys what's the apt-get line for all the media codecs?00:25
NaNO2xhmm, i think i figured out my cat problem, and i wonder if any of you have advice, i think because of the size of the files i have cat is overflowing the memory, any ideas how to put avi files together without loading all of them in memory00:25
|atlef|jvac: ubuntu-restricted-extras00:25
wildmanbye ppl, have a nice one!00:26
TooEZdoes anyone know what time 8.04 will be released tomorrow???00:27
* JohninLex is away: Away00:27
suweidIsn't it "the day over tomorrow" ?00:27
LinuxGuy1234TooEZ: I don't know00:27
suweid*over => after00:27
mamba_give full control of my machine if someone installs me iwl3945 drivers on new 2.6.25 kernel?00:27
Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok i'm using ubuntu now.  I checked that I am using alsa00:27
halopro4509anybody know anything about connecting to a windows workgroup?00:27
Bidgetcan anyone help me bind my media keys to control xmms? I've tried the compiz>general options>commands, xbindkeys and xbindkeys-config, keytouch, and I've also tried the keyboard shortcuts in system>preferences... none of them work... anyone know what I can try?00:28
con-manJ-Unit: I suppose you could, but I've done hardware support for many years with customers, often over the phone, and its been easiest to try an mp3 player00:28
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con-manJ-Unit: if the software is the issue, you cant really use it to test the speakers rite?00:28
TooEZsuweid: Its on Thursday (24/04/2008)00:28
LinuxGuy1234halopro4509: They need to run Samba to share files.00:28
_hellohello00:28
jvachow do i install flash?00:28
Starnestommyjvac: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree00:29
_hellofinal release is extended for one more day :(00:29
con-manNewbuntu_user: double click the sound icon the in top right00:29
halopro4509do all the pc's need samba or just the linux one?00:29
mamba_how do i install iwl3945 driveres? anyone?00:29
jvacStarnestommy, it says it failed00:29
LinuxGuy1234jvac: sudo apt-get install lashplugin-nonfree00:29
suweidIt's tuesday today, wednesday tomorrow and thursday is on thursday (last i checked)00:29
J-Unitcon-man, ok so since im lazy ill do it later but wat do i do to make my whole surround work and not just 2 front speakers (im not sure if the rest work but i only feel 2)00:29
atlefsuweid: depends where you live00:29
jvacLinuxGuy1234, , it says it failed00:29
Starnestommyjvac: did it say anything else?00:29
suweidDoesn't matter where I live. Technically it's wednesday already, but I wouldn't say it's wednesday.00:30
Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok done00:30
atlef*on00:30
linkmaster03jvac: LinuxGuy1234 made a typo00:30
joel_does anyone know how to use grep/gawk etc to return what ever is between two words (im trying to return what is between <title> and </title> in HTML sorce code)?00:30
linkmaster03jvac: try this00:30
con-manNewbuntu_user: go to the switches tab, what is checked?00:30
linkmaster03jvac: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree00:30
atlefsuweid: tomorrow is when you wake up?00:30
jvaclinkmaster03, yes that's what i did00:30
LinuxGuy1234jvac: go to www.adobe.com, download the Flash player, extract it and run flashplayer-installer00:31
Newbuntu_usercon-man: SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack is checked.  Headphone LFE is not checked00:31
suweidatlef, Yes.00:31
Starnestommyjoel_: try grep -e "<title>(.*)</title>" file.html00:31
joel_thanks !00:31
mamba_how to install iwlwifi drivers on 2.6.25 ?00:31
halopro4509does neone know how to install samba?00:31
mamba_apt-get install samba00:31
mamba_:)00:31
con-manNewbuntu_user: ok give me a sec00:31
linkmaster03jvac: if you are still having trouble you can tell me the error that comes up00:31
UbuntuNOOBim trying to install Steam on Ubuntu, when i click on install its saying,steam cannot be installed to selected location, target path is not a fixed drive....what do i do ?00:31
atlefsuweid: i'm more of the technically correct guy00:32
joel_<Starnestommy> it did not work :(00:32
con-manNewbuntu_user: what is your sound card and brand of speakers?00:32
LinuxGuy1234jvac: extra: extract the entire folder and run flashplayer-installer IN that directory00:32
linkmaster03UbuntuNOOB: You are using WINE right?00:32
UbuntuNOOBcrossover00:32
Newbuntu_usercon-man: my soundcard is SB Live! Value 5.100:32
jvacmd5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz00:32
jvacThe Flash plugin is NOT installed.00:32
jvacthat's what i get00:32
Newbuntu_usercon-man: my speakers are altec lansing 4.1 speakers00:33
con-manNewbuntu_user: speakers?00:33
suweidatlef, It's just not that useful to be techically correct. :)00:33
_helloUbuntunOOb i installed steam on ubuntu :) and have cs playing00:33
UbuntuNOOBcool !00:33
wuxiais it possible ot run 2 gdm sessions? so that I can switch between them with alt-ctrl-f7/f8 ?00:33
atlefsuweid: each to his own. :-)00:33
linkmaster03UbuntuNOOB: sorry I do not use Steam I cannot help you00:33
con-manNewbuntu_user: you have to stereo plugs I take it? one for front and one for rear?00:33
Mark_GFrom my machine to the first real ip outside of my lan takes 10.528 ms.. that first ip using lookup shows an address of prisoner.iana.org.. which as far as I know has nothing to do with my isp. It's a significant lag to get to the net sometimes.00:33
Newbuntu_usercon-man: yes00:33
UbuntuNOOBok linkmaster03, thats for tyring :)00:33
cjaeanything where I can use my pc as a text messenger to cell phones, aka sms00:33
bitformskype can do that00:34
con-manNewbuntu_user: swap them for shits can giggles, does the problem move to the front speakers?00:34
_helloUbuntuNOOB, i have used wine instead of cross over :)00:34
con-manNewbuntu_user: *and giggles00:34
UbuntuNOOB_hello, do you know how do i get around my problem ?00:34
LinuxGuy1234wuxia: you can emulate a X session inside one: type my commands (commands preceeded with $)00:34
UbuntuNOOBok00:34
jvaclinkmaster03, i get md5 prob you saw|?00:34
_helloand used a different installer not one that is available from site00:35
linkmaster03jvac: oh sorry, yes I see it00:35
linkmaster03jvac: one second00:35
LinuxGuy1234wuxia: sudo apt-get install xnest00:35
SeaPhoris there a program in the repos, or other, that will record all activities of local computers, kids!00:35
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: done00:35
LinuxGuy1234sorry00:35
Newbuntu_usercon-man: yes. now only rear speakers are working00:35
cjaemainly to receive messages from them00:35
LinuxGuy1234wuxia: gdmflexiserver --xnest00:35
_helloUbuntuNOOB,i have used wine and used a different installer00:36
LinuxGuy1234wuxia: and you have a emulated gdm (but you can't log in)00:36
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: oh nice00:36
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: yeah00:36
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: why can't I log in?00:36
con-manNewbuntu_user: ok so no signal on the rear jack.  before we potentially waste a bunch of time, go back to the volume control you were in earlier, double click the sound icon in the top right.  surround speakers are not muted, correct?00:36
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: but I can, with a different account00:37
nullmindHow can I set synaptic / aptitude operations to always be nicer?00:37
wuxiaLinuxGuy1234: and horrible glxgears preformance, but this is cool; thanks!00:37
demonsporkwhenever I try to cp a directory from /usr/share/, cp says "cp: omitting directory '/usr/share/foo'" how do I fix this?00:37
joel_does anyone know how to use grep/gawk etc to return what ever is between two words (im trying to return what is between <title> and </title> in HTML sorce code) without getting the title tags returned as well?00:37
Newbuntu_usercon-man: yes they aren't muted00:37
Starnestommydemonspork: put -r between cp and the source directory name00:37
UbuntuNOOB_hello, why would it say not as fixed drive ?00:38
UbuntuNOOBas = a00:38
philfromnshello00:38
linkmaster03jvac: did you receive my PM00:38
michaelhey all, i just upgraded to 8.04 rc1 and i seem to be having problems with compiz, is there anyone with a minute to spare to help me out?00:38
con-manNewbuntu_user: try the other jacks on the sound card, if its flexible audio you might have windows assigning to the rear jack what ubuntu thinks is the microphone jack00:38
Flannelmichael: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support, thanks.00:39
Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok i'll try that00:39
lordleemomichael: ubuntu+100:39
philfromnsif i upgrade from gutsy to hardy will i lose anything l00:39
ExlaxI screwed up, bad. I just updated my Nvidia drivers, and then Ubuntu would boot into low graphics mode. I set the monitor/video card driver manually when it asked, but now when i type nvidia-settings, it says i'm not using the NVIDIA X driver.00:39
michaelFlannel: thanks!00:39
_helloUbuntuNOOB, i am realy sorry but till date have never tried cross over and i think it is prorietry stuff :(00:39
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jvaclinkmaster03, thanks i just installed it manually from adobe.com :)00:39
linkmaster03jvac: oh ok :)00:40
UbuntuNOOBok, thanks anyway :)00:40
rixthHey. Netowowk-manager does not detect my wireless card (the light on my laptop is not on either), but I can connect if I use manual configuration. What is up?00:40
philfromns#ubuntu+100:40
SeaPhorExlax, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or for just the res...00:40
SeaPhorsudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg00:40
linkmaster03Why is Tilda showing these Gdk and Gtk errors? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64043/) The first error is only on startup, the last two errors come up any time that I try to retract/pull out the Tilda terminal.00:41
sap!automate00:41
ubotuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning00:41
Newbuntu_usercon-man: one of the jacks work, but it's very fuzzy sounding.  i also can't mute it thru volume control.  seems to think it's the front speakers00:41
sap!cloning00:42
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate00:42
_helloUbuntuNOOB, i can help you if u can get yourself a Wine its free00:42
Haeginhi - how can i set up a mail server to handle all the mail for users on the local pc?00:42
con-manNewbuntu_user: open the sound window again and go to the switches tab00:42
JesstesHow to copy/paste in ttys without using gpm?00:42
con-manNewbuntu_user: there is no checkbox marked "tone"?00:42
_helloUbuntuNOOB, and i think cross over is also based on wine :)00:43
Newbuntu_usercon-man: nope00:43
Newbuntu_usercon-man: if i go to preferences and enable tone, i get a switch called tone though00:43
spowershey, so if i want to do a dist-upgrade, is it safe to use apt-get dist-upgrade, or do i /have/ to use the tool?  I can't get the tool to work with my local mirror, and using my mirror will save me about 12 hours00:43
_hellosap, i have learnt a lot about backups need help00:43
Nigh1hi00:43
con-manNewbuntu_user: toggle it on and off, and difference?00:43
con-man*any00:44
Newbuntu_usercon-man: nope no difference00:44
_hellospowere, it is fine to do dist-upgrade :)00:44
LinuxGuy1234spowers: you can do it, but it's dangerous00:44
con-manNewbuntu_user: I'm out of ideas and I'm currently Raiding SSC with my guild.  Its hard to raid heal and type in here at the same time, someone else will have to pick it up00:45
SeaPhoris there a program in the repos, or other, that will record all activities of local computers, kids!00:45
spowersLinuxGuy1234: how dangerous?  I started using debian with potato, so i've seen about every horrible apt thing that can happen00:45
Newbuntu_usercon-man: ok thanks for your help anyways00:45
con-manNewbuntu_user: np00:45
_helloLinuxGuy1234, i think it is safe :)00:45
LinuxGuy1234spowers: from not dangerous to very highly00:45
_helloLinuxGuy1234,or rather safer00:45
spowersi mean, what the heck does the tool do that apt-get dist-upgrade does not00:46
spowersthat's the question i really want the answer to00:46
ExlaxSeaPhor: Same thing.00:46
ExlaxSeaPhor: I also noticed, theres like 8 xorg.conf's in my X11 folder.00:46
_hellospoweres, its the same :)00:46
rixthHey. Network-manager does not detect my wireless card (the light on my laptop is not on either). It only shows my wired nic. However, if I use the manual configuration, I can connect fine. How can I get network-manager working again?00:46
LinuxGuy1234spowers: the tool will remove old, third party apt repos00:46
SeaPhorExlax, 1 sec00:46
spowers_hello: only apparently update-manager screws with my sources.list00:46
spowersok00:46
Nigh1hi, i have a problem with acpi in my laptop, it doesn't always detect correctly when the ac-adapter is plugged00:47
ExlaxWait, brb.00:47
spowersso i'll sanitize my sources and installed packages to make it easier for deps00:47
spowersgoing to go pull the trigger now00:47
SeaPhorExlax, did you do the -phigh or full?00:47
LinuxGuy1234spowers: try the apt-get dist-upgrade00:47
_hellospowers, ok00:47
cirkithi ... when I booted ubuntu today I got the splashy screen no problem, but when it was trying to launch GDM for me, it did not and only went into text mode init 3 I believe ... I do not see a /etc/inittab so that I can change my run levels. Any reason why GDM suddenly doesn't load on boot?00:47
spowersfrom screen00:48
LinuxGuy1234spowers: what from screen?00:48
spowersNeed to get 0B/1180MB of archives00:48
spowers;)00:48
LoganHoupCan someone help with SDL 1.2, I've been told ubuntu comes with it, but when I try to ./configure something it tells me it's not present00:48
LinuxGuy1234spowers: ok00:48
LoganHoupI tried searching it in synaptics but can't find it00:48
LinuxGuy1234LoganHoup: search for libsdl00:49
SeaPhorExlax, have you looked in your System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager?00:49
bindoalbertoHello.  My PC reboots immediately and "randomly" when using 3D-accelerated programs after upgrading to Hardy RC.  Is this a known issue?  I haven't found anything similar in launchpad.net00:49
cirkitIn the logs I see something regarding GDM: DEBUG attempting to parse key strings ... Got config greeter / chooserbutton = false00:49
cirkitAny ideas?00:49
LoganHoupok00:49
demonsporkwhenever I try to access the  mywebsite.com/doc directory or anything below it, the apache web server returns a 403 permission denied even though I set the permissions to xr for everyone and all files and folders in that directory. How do I access these?00:49
jhoc2xhelp.. i restore compiz to its defaults.. lol,  i cant see the windows borders again.. ^_^  and i cant see a dam thing using terminal.. it's all white00:51
ExlaxSeaPhor: When i went to enable Compiz, it asked me to enable Graphics Driver. So i did, and then restarted; and now it gave me the low graphics mode bs again.00:51
ExlaxSeaPhor: Is there any way i can uninstall the drivers i just installed, and return to using the ones that came with gutsy?00:51
demonsporkjhoc2x, #compiz-fusion00:51
jhoc2xkk..00:51
halopro4509how the heck do i find out what my workgroups password is?00:51
LoganHoupOk, I had libsdl1.2-alsa I'm guessing I need libsdl1.2-all?00:52
demonsporkthey usually don't have passwords halopro450900:52
rhineheart_mhello.. I have this warning in my chkrootkit output Checking `lkm'... find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a00:53
rhineheart_mbug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.00:53
rhineheart_mEarlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been00:53
rhineheart_msearched.00:53
FloodBot2rhineheart_m: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:53
strtoki'm getting an input/output error (errno 5) when trying to install 7.10 or 8.04. Anyone have any ideas? I was able to install yesterday just fine onthe same system00:53
Pelo!enter | rhineheart_m00:53
uboturhineheart_m: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:53
LoganHoupalright I've got it installed. it still gives me this error checking for sdl-config... no00:53
LoganHoupchecking for SDL - version >= 1.2.0... no00:53
LoganHoup*** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found00:53
LoganHoup*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in00:53
LoganHoup*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the00:53
FloodBot2LoganHoup: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:53
* LinuxGuy1234 is away: Gone away for now.. Will be back on.00:53
LoganHoup*** full path to sdl-config.00:53
SeaPhorExlax, look at the names and dates of the other xorg.conf files, and edit/look-at them to see the differences00:54
halopro4509well for some reason i belive that mine do, every time i try to login to anouther computer in the workgroup it says that i have the wrong pass word00:54
Type-RHi00:54
halopro4509wat the heck00:54
tonyyarussohalopro4509: that's another computer in the workgroup, not the workgroup.00:54
_helloLoganHoup, edit your path to sdl config env in sudo gedit /etc/environment00:54
LoganHouperr you lost me00:54
halopro4509okay okay00:54
SeaPhorExlax, also you can look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64054/   thats what my recently xorg.conf file looks like00:54
halopro4509lol so how do i go about finding out the computers password, it is a linux running samba00:55
ExlaxRight, SeaPhor, but i think there's a problem with nvidia's driver.00:55
ExlaxI did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it rebooted, and it still said i wasn't using NVIDIA-X.00:55
LinuxGuy1234I'm back!00:55
jvachow's the bubble bobble game called|?00:55
SeaPhorExlax, have you looked in your System>Administration>Restricted Drivers Manager?00:56
Pelojvac, frozen bubble00:56
tonyyarussohalopro4509: it's not the computer's password - it's the password of your account on that computer.  If you don't have one, you can't access anything.  That's sort of the point.00:56
halopro4509lol00:56
ExlaxSeaPhor: If i enable that, it goes into low-graphics mode.00:56
SeaPhorExlax, are you on Gutsy?00:56
djraksoHi! I got a quick question. I installed amsn but it appears that all the text and pictures are really small in its window. How do I scale them to the size as all the other window?00:56
ExlaxI am.00:56
SeaPhorExlax, but does it say its in use>?00:57
ExlaxNot in use.00:57
halopro4509well idk if i have one, i have one for my login when i first turn on my computer. but that paswrod wont work when i try to login into it from anouther computer00:57
Bidgethey how do I burn a cd?00:57
PeloBidget, install  gnomebaker it's the easiest way00:58
DanikarPNBidget: Try gnomebaker00:58
PeloBidget, open a terminal  type  sudo apt-get install gnomebaker00:58
SeaPhorExlax, ok, cause there's two issues there, 1 is in use and the other is the check mark, mines not checked either but it is in use00:58
LinuxGuy1234Bidget: sudo apt-get install gnomebaker00:58
ExlaxIt is neither checked, nor in use.00:59
* Pelo does think that brassero is looking good, but the interface doesn'T realy work for him, he probably needs to get use to it00:59
* LinuxGuy1234 is away: Gone away for now.. Will be back on.00:59
SeaPhorExlax, what vid card you have and when/where did you get the driver?00:59
Bidgetgnomebaker ok coo lthanks :D00:59
cirkitFor some reason when I now boot ubuntu, it will show the splashy but it will not boot into GDM, only straight into a terminal ...00:59
LainIwakuraWhat should I do if I bumped my thread about 10 times and still no reply?00:59
cirkitany idea why GDM will no longer start at boot?00:59
LainIwakuraOP is 2 weeks ago00:59
ExlaxSeaPhor: 8800GTX, and right off of Nvidia's website.00:59
sap_hello, just came back and saw ur message.  Yes , I'd like to have ur opinions on backups01:00
Starnestommycirkit: run "ls /etc/rc2.d/ | grep gdm"01:00
PeloLainIwakura, try again and be patient,  you can try rewording maybe or google or other related channels01:00
DanikarPNcirkit: Can you get gdm to start with /etc/init.d/gdm start ?01:00
jvacdoes enabling the nvidia drivers need restart or just xorg restart aka ctrl alt backspace?01:00
SeaPhorExlax, ok, Pelo help me out if you know this one , but when i got the driver from nvidia's site and installed it did same thing01:00
Pelojvac, just X01:00
PeloSeaPhor, I don'T know the rest of the problem , summerize it for me pleae01:01
SeaPhorExlax, and nice card, i only have the 8600 :-(01:01
ExlaxSo how do i fix it?01:01
Pelo+s01:01
sap_hello, basically I'm preparing for installing hardy on my dual-boot system. So firstly I'd like to get my /home backed up , and also my windows partition.  Plus the dpkg thing for restoring all programs to default01:01
ExlaxThanks ;x but unfortunately it's not helping much.01:01
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cirkitim updating right now ....01:01
halopro4509well idk if i have one, i have one for my login when i first turn on my computer. but that paswrod wont work when i try to login into it from anouther computer01:01
cirkitwow! right after the update it took me into GDM, I Logged in and it took me to a black screen01:01
cirkitlol01:01
ExlaxPelo, more or less, i had the nvidia drivers that came with Gutsy, and i upgraded by logging out, killing gdm, and installing the new drivers from nvidia's website, now if i enable the driver, ubuntu enters low graphics mode.01:02
DanikarPNcirkit: Is it loading the rest of the way?01:02
PeloExlax, install nvidia-config and nvidia-setting(s?) ,    with those you should be able to change the rez01:03
SeaPhorPelo, Elax installed the latest drivers for 8800 nvidia and now it does the boot in low graphics mode, he wants to uninstall those drivers and go back01:03
ExlaxYeah.01:03
ExlaxI want to go back to what i had.01:03
halopro4509problem, windows won't connect to linux, and linux won't connect to windows. they see each other, but the user name or pass word is wrong for both of them01:03
ExlaxI tried that, Pelo, and it didn't work.01:03
cirkitStarnestommy: S30gdm01:03
halopro4509wat am i doing wrong01:03
Bidgetalright so I installed gnomebaker, but I want to make an mp3 cd, how do I do that?01:03
cirkitI restarted and it took me to init 3 text login01:03
SeaPhorExlax, Pelo, sorry i type slow01:03
tonyyarusso!mp3 | Bidget01:03
ubotuBidget: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:03
PeloExlax, then all you have to do is reenable the  nvidia driver from the restricted driver manager window and restart X01:04
Starnestommycirkit: what about "ls /etc/rc3.d/ | grep gdm" ?01:04
ExlaxI'll try that, brb.01:04
atlefBidget: make a data cd with your mp3 files on it01:04
PeloSeaPhor, I forgive much but slow typing just rubs me the wrong way01:04
cirkitStarnestommy: same result01:04
Who_I would like to use the desktop effects (compiz) with the nvidia-glx NOT nvidia-glx-new package. Is this possible?01:04
Bidgetatlef, oh ok01:04
SeaPhorPelo: :-(01:04
Starnestommycirkit: it should've loaded on boot01:04
cirkit"Starting Gnome Display Manager"01:05
Nick123Hello there can i do a dual boot with xp and ubuntu but by installing ubuntu first01:05
PeloWho_,  as long as you have glx it should work , jjust try enabling the desktoop effects from the apperance menu01:05
cirkitI see that, but it brings me to text login01:05
Vernunftige_Edelcan someone help me with my wireless probs on 8.0401:05
cirkitcould it be the nvidia drivers?01:05
strtokÂ/w 201:05
Who_Pelo: It doesn't work - no window borders01:05
cirkitI installed them from administration01:05
PeloNick123, yes but you'll have to reinstall grub,  better isntall xp first , it's easier01:05
atlef§hardy | Vernunftige_Edel:01:05
Who_Pelo: can I check that the glx module is loaded somehow?01:05
Nick123ok01:05
PeloWho_, it works,  you just need to eanble the decorator,  ask in #compiz01:05
atlef!hardy | Vernunftige_Edel:01:06
ubotuVernunftige_Edel:: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!01:06
Who_Pelo: is that a bug against desktop-effects then? Because the decorator worked fine when I had the nvidia-glx-new package (i downgraded because the old one has suspend support)01:06
PeloWho_, if you don'T get the window borders taht means it's working,  the decoratios are just "off" , ask in #compiz they can tell you how to activate them01:06
cirkit /etc/init.d/gdm restart gives a "Starting GNOME Display Manager" ... but it doesn't load01:06
khaotiki updated my version of ubuntu to 8.4 and the sound is all types of messed up. is there a way to fix this?? it sounds all static now01:07
Who_Pelo: Thanks. Any thoughts on whether it is a bug?01:07
Pelokhaotik,  in #ubuntu+101:07
PeloWho_,  it's not a bug01:07
khaotikgood looking01:07
Peloit's just annoying01:07
Vernunftige_Edeli foudn the driver for the wifi but having problems with the instal01:07
Who_Pelo: Aren't they the same :P? Surely if they can work fine for the new driver they shoudlwork fine for the old?01:08
PeloWho_, it's just a quirk in the compiz settings,   the decorator got turned off,  go and ask in #compiz on how to turn it back on01:08
SeaPhorExlax, any luck so far?01:09
demonsporkwhenever I try to access the  mywebsite.com/doc directory or anything below it, the apache web server returns a 403 permission denied even though I set the permissions to xr for everyone and all files and folders in that directory. How do I access these via my web server?01:09
PeloVernunftige_Edel, state the problem you are having and we'll do our best01:09
vendetaI need a distro of ubuntu or any linux that will run on 32 mb anyone know one?01:09
sjovanlet me refrase that question.... is it possible to define the start of the filname on the outputfile when you are makeing several screenshots with the mplayer comand?01:09
Pelodemonspork, maybe the ppl in #apache can help you out01:09
Pelosjovan, ask in #mplayer01:10
sjovanPelo: i am :)01:10
ExlaxPelo: When i enabled Restricted, it put me into low graphics mode, and it still says NVIDIA X is not in use. I've reconfigured, i've nvidia-xconfig, nothing is working.01:10
Who_Thanks pelo - I'm going :)01:10
vendetaI need a distro of ubuntu or any linux that will run on 32 mb anyone know one?01:10
SeaPhorPelo, everything you told him i had already mentioned I hope he was able to fix it, I had the same prob for a bit and it was annoying01:10
DarkLordVenomxubuntu01:11
tonyyarussoDarkLordVenom: not well01:11
vendetaDarkLordVenom: xubuntu wont work on 3201:11
PeloExlax, very odd,  this isn'T my best feild btw, try this ,   in terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,   pick the correct driver,  at some point you might be asked for resolution,  leave the rest as is unless you absolutely know better01:11
tonyyarussovendeta: anything will run - what you need to know is whether you can run a GUI.01:11
ExlaxI tried that, Pelo. No go.01:11
ExlaxIs there any way to uninstall the drivers i just installed, and revert back to Gutsies?01:11
tonyyarussovendeta: perhaps Fluxbox will, or Enlightenment.  Lots of options.01:12
vendetatonyyarusso: Yes sorry i want a gnome or dke desktop enviroment i forgot to specisize01:12
tonyyarussovendeta: Gnome and KDE aren't going to work, sorry.01:12
rixthNetwork-manager does not show wireless networks, though running iwlist does. Can someone please help me try and fix NetworkManager?01:12
PeloSeaPhor, I can only review the basic,  I have no way to tell what you ahve already tried, and I need to know the results anyway,  I know it's kind of redundant but we don'T have a step by step trouble shooting guide we can all work from and then pass it on to someoe else and say :"take over from step 5"01:13
tonyyarussoheck, some of the applets in Gnome use 32 MB.01:13
DarkLordVenomwhat are you trying to do with a system that only has 32mb of ram?01:13
vendetatonyyarusso: Ok is their anyother versions besides command line that will?01:13
PeloExlax, you need to restart X after the dpkg-reconfigure01:13
Exlaxi did.01:13
Exlaxit puts me into low-graphics mode.01:13
Who_Exlax (+ Pelo, cos you clearly know better than me and can correct me!): I don't know your setup but for me I have just worked around a regression in the nvidia drivers by instaling nvidia-glx instead of nividia-glx-new. Coudl that help in your situation?01:13
dirkaHey!  Anybody have a second?01:14
amenadorixth->  nm takes a snapshot of what it can detect, its not continuous01:14
ExlaxTrying, Who_01:14
PeloExlax, did you try changing the resolution from the resolution dialog in the pref menu ?01:14
ExlaxI did, that's no problem.01:14
Pelodirka, ask your question and hope01:14
ExlaxIt's nvidia-settings that won't recognize anything.01:14
SeaPhorPelo, everything you have said is what i have said, and thats the limit of my knowledge, thats what fixed mine, and a gksudo gedit of the xorg.conf file but i had help with that01:14
atlef!ask | dirka:01:14
ubotudirka:: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)01:14
tonyyarussovendeta: Like I said, try flux or E, or openbox/blackbox/matchbox, or icewm01:14
PeloExlax, ok  open a terminal ,  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf,  pastebin it for me01:15
rixthamenado: my laptop hasn't moved for the last week and I've rebooted several times. The wifi light is not glowing on my laptop either. I can connect to the network if I edit /etc/network/interfaces manually so the hardware is OK.01:15
vendetatonyyarusso: Ok thanks alot01:15
ezzieyguywufis this the place to ask questions about hardy heron?01:15
Who_Exlax: follow Pelo before taking my advice :)01:15
Starnestommyezzieyguywuf: until its release, #ubuntu+1 is01:15
atlef!hardy | ezzieyguywuf:01:15
ubotuezzieyguywuf:: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!01:15
ezzieyguywufthanks01:15
DarkLordVenomrixth: did you turn off your wireless using function f2 or w/e the shortcut is for your laptop?01:15
PeloWho_,  there are a lot of ppl who know more then me about this01:15
ExlaxPastbin?01:16
PeloExlax, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel01:16
Vernunftige_EdelPELO_ I tried out 3 different Linux OS (gOS space,7.10 and hardy) but none of them could find the wireless connection I have in my room... intel network adapter 82562v-2 is the network card and the driver i tried to install is e1000-8.0.1 (which failed)01:16
amenadorixth-> you can not connecT?01:16
Pelo!pastebin | Exlax01:16
ubotuExlax: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:16
dirkaWell, I'm installing a computer in my car so I can interface with the OBD2 port and see live data from it's ecu.  Long story short, the computer I'm putting in is a 64 bit dual core processor.  Will ubuntu work with this?01:16
Who_Pelo: and more that know more than me :P01:16
respawnhi01:16
DarkLordVenomVernunftige_Edel: are you using a wireless usb network card?01:16
respawnanyone can help me please01:16
rixthDarkLordVenom: yes, but I since turned it back on. The bluetooth light is on, wifi is not. amenado, yes, I _can_ connect to my wireless network if I set it up manually.01:16
TaRDyhello, is there an equivalent of deamon tools for ubuntu to mount a .bin dvd?01:16
_hellodirka processor is not a problem01:16
Who_Pelo: no one in #compiz is biting. Is it a case of hunting around in CCSM? If so I can do that...01:16
PeloVernunftige_Edel, I know nothing about wifi ,  just direct your question to the channel if anyone is able to help I'm usre they will try,01:16
Vernunftige_Edelno, it is build in in the pc01:17
_hellorespawn, yes01:17
Exlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64055/01:17
dirkaThat is awesome!!  Thanks :)01:17
atlefTaRDy: have you tried vlc01:17
TaRDynot yet atlef, I will try now01:17
amenadorixth-> manually? what command you use?01:17
respawni have my first disk in NTFS but i cannot mount the disk because windows is inside how can i see the floder ?01:17
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Vernunftige_Edelah ok thc01:17
ExlaxPelo: Brb, going to restart X.01:17
PeloWho_, open the appareace manager in the preference menu ,    last tab desktop effects,   advance,  the setting or customise button,  find the one for decorator , toggle it on and off , see what happens01:17
tonyyarussorespawn: um, what do you mean you can't mount it because Windows is inside?01:17
TaRDythank you atlef it worked01:17
rixthamenado, network-admin01:17
_hellorespawn where is ur ubuntu then ?01:17
whileimhereHi!01:17
dirka_hello, What do you think would be the best distro of ubuntu to do this with?  I'm not overly familiar with linux, but I can figure stuff out.01:18
vendetatonyyarusso: Openbox is a .deb package how does that work?01:18
atlefTaRDy: good for you01:18
respawnin sata disk partition01:18
rixthamenado, manually setting the SSID and WPA key01:18
amenadorixth-> thats not manual command thats gui.01:18
tonyyarussovendeta: you should install it through the package manager built into the system.  /msg ubotu software for details.01:18
respawnbut i have one disk alone with windows xp01:18
whileimhereI was wondering if I downloaded Ubuntu 2 days before the offical release will I have a ton of updates to do to get up to the offical release on Thursday?01:18
respawni cannot see a floder01:18
respawnhe don't want mount the disk01:18
rixthamenado, ah sorry. But the fact of the matter is, that works, but network manager shows nothing.01:18
tonyyarussorespawn: sorry, I'm afraid I still have no idea what you're saying.01:18
Vernunftige_Edelhi , can someone help me with my wireless.....I tried out 3 different Linux OS (gOS space,7.10 and hardy) but none of them could find the wireless connection I have in my room... intel network adapter 82562v-2 is the network card and the driver i tried to install is e1000-8.0.1 (which failed)01:18
Pelo!wifi | Vernunftige_Edel have you looked in here ?01:19
respawnmy disk is hdb101:19
ubotuVernunftige_Edel have you looked in here ?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:19
respawnfor windows xp01:19
_hellodirka, i think every dist is good enough to run on x86_64 but u should go for latest as it has more drivers so wait for one day and download 8.0401:19
rixthDarkLordVenom, why did you ask if I had turned the wireless off? is there something else I need to do?01:19
amenadorixth-> are you in roaming mode?  shows nothing? you mean during after scanning no AP is visible?01:19
respawnbut i cannot mount him :(01:19
tonyyarussowhileimhere: Probably not a ton, but the installer will be updated and such, so unless you're comfortable with unstable software you might as well wait.01:19
DarkLordVenomoh, sometimes people just accidentally disable the card by hitting the wrong function key01:19
Pelo!enter | respawn01:20
uboturespawn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:20
_hellorespawn what is ur ubuntu version ??01:20
rixthamenado, left clicking on the applet doesn't even show a wlan interface. Running nm-tool only shows one device, eth0.01:20
tawtcan anyone help me?  on the grub menu i have hardy for both 2.6.24-16 and 2.6.22-14.  the newest one, 2.6.24-16 won't boot into ubuntu.  how can i fix this?01:20
vendetatonyyarusso: So i have to install ubuntu or something first?01:20
Vernunftige_EdelPelo_ yes, sinnce this morning I'm reading about how to fix my wireless01:20
dirka_hello, sounds good to me, do you know anything about interfacing with an OBD2 port in a car?  Also, will a M$ fingerprint reader work with ubuntu?  (Atleast, is there some sort of drivers I could find to make it work?)01:20
tonyyarussovendeta: Correct - you can use the !alternate CD to install a minimal system and install openbox from there.01:20
DarkLordVenomrixth: try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up    in a terminal01:20
Riddelldirka: you wanted something?01:20
respawnheu the last01:21
amenadorixth-> dont know ..thats why i always trust the command line versus gui..01:21
respawnversion01:21
Pelotawt,   boot the 14 one,   then open the /boot/grub/menu.lst file,  find the 16 entry and make sure the files it looks for are there01:21
respawnv7 ....01:21
rixthDarkLordVenom, ah. These problems did seem to arise after I turned my wireless off and back on though. I have restarted since then01:21
LWATCDRHello all. I just updated to Release canadate and my network stopped working.01:21
respawni'm french so if anyone speak french ^^01:21
Pelorespawn, we're 2 days from the next release01:21
LWATCDRAnybody else run into this?01:21
dysingertorrent of release ?  :D01:21
tonyyarussoLWATCDR: #ubuntu+101:21
Pelo!fr | respawn01:21
uboturespawn: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:21
SeaPhorPelo, Exlax, says hes using vesa? and driver nv,,, thats not right, look at mine,,, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64054/01:21
_hellodirak, dont know abotu finger prin reader and OBD2 can u expand ?01:21
Vernunftige_EdelPelo_could it be that i'm installing the driver wrong?01:21
rixthDarkLordVenom, the interface is up, I am able to use it (I am right now). It's just that NM does not see it.01:21
_hellodirka, dont know abotu finger prin reader and OBD2 can u expand ?01:22
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respawnok thx ^01:22
Who_Pelo: Decorator is on but doesn't show - note that I had to install ccsm to get that 'options' button on the desktop effects tab01:22
cirkit_hi01:22
PeloSeaPhor, the identifier is just a name , it's not the driver01:22
vendetatonyyarusso: So when i get to ubuntu terminal if the download link is http://bah.com/openbox.deb id just type in sudo wget install http://bah.com/openbox.deb01:22
whileimheretonyyarusso: Whats the difference with the installer?01:22
cirkit_can someone take a look at this output from GDM ... maybe someone can make better sense by this as to why GDM doesn't load at boot ... http://pastebin.ca/99396201:22
tonyyarussovendeta: no, you don't get it from that site at all - you use apt-get.01:22
dirkaAhh, I'll just do some googling on those topics, it's more specialized to my car anyway.  Thanks for your time though, I'll definitly wait until tomorrow.01:22
tonyyarussowhileimhere: That's a question for the release team :)01:22
PeloVernunftige_Edel, it is possible,  that's why I gave you the link,  review the documentation , also chec the settings in admin > network01:22
whileimhereoh I see.01:22
vendetatonyyarusso: No that was a example url openbox has a wiki with a link to a .deb package01:23
PeloWho_,  go in the options of the decorator and play with that01:23
ZeltaWhat's all this scrabbling about?01:23
whileimherealso I was wondering about how to take source code and make a Deb file out of it. I have found a few sites that talk about it but since I am not a hardcore gamer I get lost.01:23
Vernunftige_Edelthx01:23
PeloWho_,  the decorator might need to be off ,  so the windows decorator kicks in01:23
tonyyarussovendeta: Regardless, you won't be using any link at all - it's all built into the system.01:23
PeloZelta, what scrambling ?01:24
Who_Pelo: Eh? as in turn off the decorator plugin?01:24
Vernunftige_EdelPelo_ I'm gonna re -look at it01:24
PeloWho_,  yes01:24
vendetatonyyarusso:  Ok so how to i start synpatics package manager from terminal?01:24
Vernunftige_Edelthx01:24
tonyyarussowhileimhere: #ubuntu-motu can help you out with that, although you may need to be patient since lots of them are busy with release stuff.  The links in the topic are a good start.01:24
PeloVernunftige_Edel, also check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport maybe there is a note , or in the forum01:24
whileimhere:) Thanks man01:24
cirkit_Anyone?01:24
whileimhereor girl whichever01:24
tonyyarussovendeta: Synaptic is a graphical application, and not available from terminal-only installations.  Use apt-get instead.01:25
adamb in cron, 15 10-22/3 * * * would that mean every 15 minutes on the hours between 10-22 but run every 3 hours?  so 10,13,16,19,22  ?01:25
cirkit_http://pastebin.ca/99396201:25
Peloadamb, are ou sure you can do that ?01:25
tawtpelo:  yes both files for 2.6.24-16 are there01:25
_hellodirka, ,are u still here01:25
tonyyarussoadamb: that would mean on the 15 minute mark on hours between 10 and 22 divisible by 3, so 12:15, 15:15, 18:15, and 21:15.01:25
adambcan do what?  as in is it valid, yes it is01:25
LWATCDRWhat is the best channel to ask about the Release canadate?01:26
_derspanksterubunt+101:26
_derspanksterubuntu+101:26
tonyyarusso#ubuntu+1, rather.01:26
Pelotawt, ok compare the entries ,  make sure they are similar,   the only thing diffrent should be the files01:26
adambtonyyarusso: oh, thats means hours divisiable my 3 only?01:26
tonyyarussoadamb: believe so01:26
Who_Pelo: Still nothing - and starting /usr/bin/compiz-decorator --replace just outputs 'starting gtk-window-decorator' and hangs - so I will restart and see if anything is better :S01:26
Lloydie-TI have installed mydns but when running external tests I am getting problems. 'Error: Nameserver 'ns2.phi.co.uk' at address '82.118.99.136' does not advertise itself as nameserver' Do you know what this means01:27
Millertime_018hey i'm trying to get my pc speakers to work using ubuntu01:27
Millertime_018i can't get it done!!01:27
PeloMillertime_018,  getting sound anywhere else ?01:27
mike-ekimHi Everyone - X / Remote desktop problem here. I have a remote server that I have no physical access to, they are colocated in France. I need to set up remote desktop on it, but there is no way I can possibly allow it.01:27
Millertime_018and its not a volume thing cuz i double clicked it01:27
DarkLordVenomis your volume up?01:27
Millertime_018yea01:27
tawtpelo, could not open, archive type not supported01:27
Millertime_018i can plug stuff in through the front01:27
Who_Pelo: THanks for your help01:27
Millertime_018and i know it works01:27
mike-ekimI managed to launch vncserver on display :1 and enabled the settings as if i was on the computer, but nothing01:27
vendetaMillertime_018: Some speakers need to have surround sound enabled before they work01:27
PeloMillertime_018,  open a terminal type alsamixer , put all the levels up01:27
Millertime_018oh. where that at again?01:27
PeloWho_,  it worked ?01:28
Millertime_018dude ur right, where's it at01:28
mike-ekimcan someone guide me? I need a solution but it cannot consist of launching a new X session, need to log into current :0 session so I can launch some GTK applications, log out and just leave them runnibng01:28
mike-ekimcan someone help me01:28
mike-ekimPLEASE! Ill bake cookies I swear01:28
Millertime_018no the alsamixer is already been done, i got to that by double clicking the audio thing on the top01:28
Who_Pelo: not yet, but I am leaving the roomt o restart - so I thought I'd thank you for your help before I left :)! It is help whether it works or not!01:28
Millertime_018where the surround sound thing01:28
Millertime_018?01:28
llin-ubuntuhey my sound just stopped working after i restarted my computer, anyone know how to get it back on?01:29
PeloMillertime_018,  menu > sysetm > prefs > sounsd probablay01:29
eugmanIs is possible to remap my ssh to listen on a different port?01:29
llin-ubuntuim using ubuntu 7.1001:29
Pelomike-ekim,  you can't run gtk app without having X running01:29
SeaPhorPelo, hes not have the driver installed right, i wish i could remember but i had to copy-paste in mine and if you look at the two side-by-side,,, you can see the diff and mine works great01:29
mike-ekimbut I need it to be remotely manageble, it is a chat client01:29
tonyyarussoeugman: yeah - it's in the config file in /etc01:29
Pelollin-ubuntu, I assumed you rebooted ?01:29
Millertime_018DUD THANX SO MUCH!01:30
Pelomike-ekim, use a cli chat client01:30
llin-ubuntuyeah i rebooted because i just used Envy to install my nvidia drivers01:30
* Pelo is not a dud 01:30
* Pelo is the man 01:30
mike-ekimPelo i already thought of these ideas01:30
Who_Pelo: this looks promising (form the compiz room - but not to me - I just happened to notice it!) sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2401:30
vendetaMy GFX card is shot on my ubuntu desktop and i want a dock is their one that will work without a gfx card?01:30
Pelollin-ubuntu, there is your problem  envy broke your sound01:30
Who_vendeta: What kind of features do you want?01:30
Pelo!sound | llin-ubuntu01:30
ubotullin-ubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:30
tawtpelo, could not open, archive type not supported01:30
Starnestommyllin-ubuntu: and it probably broke other things, too01:30
mike-ekimI am not trying t re-engineer the solution, just need to know if theres a possibility, maybe terminology guidance to look for the right solution01:30
cirkitgdm[7459]: WARNING: GDM file gdm-daemon-config.c: line 2127 (): Cannot run seteuid to 0: Operation not permitted01:31
Who_vendeta: I ran awn using the XFCE compositor using the vesa driver...01:31
PeloWho_, for who ?01:31
equawhat ever happened to the beryl project?01:31
llin-ubuntuenvy always worked for me in the past01:31
cirkitany idea what the debug message means?01:31
DarkLordVenomequa it is now compiz01:31
Starnestommyequa: it was merged with compiz-fusion01:31
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llin-ubuntubut ill check for alsa01:31
Pelotawt, coud not open what ?01:31
equaoh cool thankyou01:31
vendetaWho_: I just want a basic dock that shows my running proccesses to get rid of my task bar01:31
llin-ubuntuohhh i found the problem01:31
tawtpelo : the files for the 16 kernal01:31
Who_vendeta: XFCE Panel can do a non  glitzy one if you configure it right01:31
llin-ubuntumy sound card wasnt checked, it was trying to use something else01:31
Starnestommycirkit: did you run it with sudo?01:32
Pelotawt, when did you get this error msg ?01:32
dougieemdanyone know how I can run the initial xserver setup script ran when I install ubuntu? Ubuntu properly set everything up when I installed, but now its all messed up.01:32
cirkitwhere can I delete my GDM files from and start over?01:32
Who_and like I said, if you run the xfce window manager you can have compositing without a good graphics card01:32
tawtpelo, when double clicking on the files01:32
vendetaWho_: how much trouble is it to configure?01:32
Who_vendeta: what graphics _do_ you have?01:32
cirkitwhat the heck that is weird, I didn't do anything and it took me into GDM01:32
llin-ubuntui fixed it, thanks guys....it was in system/prefs/sound  had to select my sound card01:32
Pelotawt, hyou can'T open those,  that's not how it works,    pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst so I can have a look01:32
vendetaWho_: The card got fryed a while back so it dosnt work past like a half meg01:32
Who_vendeta: not too much - I can't remember the details now though :) I case of configuring the panel the way you want and then adding it to the sessions tab to start it automatically01:33
_hello!paste01:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)01:33
cirkitStarnestommy: root or user it fails ... it took me to GDM, I logged in and got a black screen01:33
Who_vendeta: do you have onboard graphics? Because you'd probably be better with those!01:33
cirkithmm01:33
tawtpelo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64056/01:33
Who_I need to restart X now, so I'm off!01:33
dougieemdanyone know how I can get the original xorg.conf back that ubuntu installed originally? Is there a script I can rerun?01:33
lobazoplease help me how can i load a subtitle in totem?01:33
Pelotawt, ok hold on01:33
vendetaWho_: It is onboard only the vga adapter works on it now01:33
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whileimhereIs there a way to test the integrity of a burned disc? I just burned it and it reported no errors but I would like to be sure.01:34
lobazoplease help me how can i load a subtitle in totem?01:34
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Chaotic_Descentis there a way to autodetect and mount my 2nd and 3rd HDs? my upgraded Ubuntu forgot they were there, and the previous ver I think did it automatically.01:35
lobazoplease help me how can i load a subtitle in totem?01:35
_hellohi any one please give me link to install 3rd party driver like nvidia :)01:35
cirkitStarnestommy: well this is interesting ... I removed anything pertaining "Usplash" and only kept splashy, and now it boots into GDM fine ....01:36
lobazoplease help me how can i load a subtitle in totem?01:36
cirkitweird, Usplash conflicts?01:36
Chaotic_Descenthuh... that must be why gparted took 5 minutes to load when I was trying to find info on my 2nd partition on the primary HD...01:36
Pelotawt, I can' t find any error,  try this,  open synaptic ,  do a search for kernel   reinstall the -16 kernels files ,  see if that helps01:36
amenadoChaotic_Descent-> is there an entry in your /etc/fstab for them?01:36
Malazhello, depending on the nvdia driver you want to install, you can probably just get the driver from system>admin>restricted drivers01:36
tawtpelo, ok, i will01:36
Pelotawt,  you running hardy ?  did you update recently ?01:36
tawtpelo, thank for all your help!01:36
tawtpelo, yes01:36
tawtpelo, i upgraded last night01:37
DarkLordVenomhas hardy been officially released yet?01:37
Who_Pelo: The command I pasted right before I left did the trick :)01:37
Who_ Pelo: Thanks for your help!01:37
Chaotic_Descentit lists the two HDs names under places, but I can't click on them.01:37
Pelotawt, no I mean update since you upgraded,  depending on what you are upgraded to you might not be uptodate01:37
crabgrass#avidemux is really slow, so i'll ask here. anyone have any idea why auto vcd produces files larger than 700mb?01:37
MalazVenom: Release is about 3 days away.  So no.01:37
PeloWho_, np01:37
Chaotic_Descentamenado: no, it does not list them in fstab. thanks. (I have never heard of fstab)01:37
grimsI just installed ubuntu and within 20 minutes of it running (everytime) it locks up and the keyboard lights flash.  Can anyone help me please?01:38
crabgrassalso, to upgrade from 7.04 to 8.04, am i going to have to install 7.10 as well?01:38
tawtpelo, like running sudo apt-get update ?01:38
Pelotawt, ;yes01:38
tawtpelo, i think, let me run it again01:38
SisyphusINCmy screen keeps going blank after about 5-10 min even when i set the screen saver to turn on after 2 hrs. screen returns to normal when i hit a key but i cant seem to keep it from going blank01:38
Pelotawt,  you should bet about 100 megs up updates if not more01:38
adambtonyyarusso: nah its not hours div by the number  =)01:39
tawtpelo, updating01:39
PeloSisyphusINC, got suspend or turn monitor off set ?01:39
adambits "steps"  so 10-22/3 is 10,13,16,19,2201:39
tonyyarussoadamb: really?  Smart.01:39
adambyeah..01:39
SisyphusINCPelo: where01:39
PeloSisyphusINC, in powermanagment probably01:40
PeloSisyphusINC, in the prefs settings01:40
Chaotic_Descentwhy are my HDs not in etc/fstab ?01:40
tawtpelo, update complete01:40
SisyphusINCPelo: all are set to never01:40
Pelotawt, already ? I got lost more this morning01:40
adambChaotic_Descent: your lables are probably there..01:40
grimsNot sure if its a kernal panic or not -- nothing is in my syslogs01:40
PeloSisyphusINC, it was an idea01:40
hauppaugedoes hardy heron 64bit have problems installing 32bit deb packages??01:40
tawtpelo, i updated about 3 hours ago01:40
SeaPhoris there a program in the repos, or other, that will record all activities of local computers, kids!01:40
SisyphusINCoh well ill continue hitting buttons to keep screen01:41
Pelohauppauge, you'll need to insall the 32bit dependencies as well I beleive01:41
Chaotic_Descentlabels?01:41
Pelotawt, ah,  well try reinstalling the kernel packages then01:41
tawtpelo, ok, thanks01:41
PeloChaotic_Descent,  lablel = hdd names01:41
hauppaugepelo: is that easy to do? never could get them to work with prior distro's i had to run a force command i believe01:41
iowa^somebody know how to remove the annoying transparency on a inactive titlebar? (using hardy here)01:42
hauppaugepelo: so i have stuck with the 32bit edition01:42
Chaotic_DescentYes. I have the HDD names shown. I just can't double-click on them.01:42
dmsupermanI would just like to say to all those people who thought windows was the only plug n play OS...screw off :P new mobo and proc and it detected everything automatically, no changes. Not only that, but windows won't even boot, where ubuntu will. Thanks for keeping me coolheaded enough to stick with ubuntu guys :D01:42
Pelohauppauge, no idea I've never done it01:42
SisyphusINCim out01:42
amenadoChaotic_Descent-> entries in /etc/fstab are manually entered01:42
grimsI just installed ubuntu and within 20 minutes of it running (everytime) it locks up and the keyboard lights flash.  Can anyone help me please?01:42
grimsNot sure if its a kernal panic or not -- nothing is in my syslogs01:42
Malaziowa, do you have desktop effects enabled?  If so, you'll have to download the compiz settings manager and mess around with it to disable it.01:42
Chaotic_Descentwhat do I need to do to get to my HDs though? am I supposed to manually put them in /etc/fstab, or is there more to it?01:43
amenadogrims-> what were you doing during that time when it freezes?01:43
iowa^Malaz: yeah, i have, both. but i cannot find it in compis-settings-manager.01:43
Pelogrims, can you reboot ?01:43
iowa^compiz* :P01:43
Chaotic_DescentI know nothing of linux.01:43
Peloiowa^, yo need to isntall it ,  check in synaptic01:43
LSGiowa^: sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager01:43
iowa^i have it already ;)01:44
grimsamenado, the first time i was running package manager -- but it seems to do it within 20 minutes even when not using the package manager01:44
grimsPelo, yes, I have and it does the same thing each time01:44
PeloChaotic_Descent,  are those ntfs  hdds ?01:44
iowa^i cannot seem to find the right "setting" tho.01:44
amenadoChaotic_Descent-> perhaps then a tutorial on linux basics? plenty of tutorials if you google for them..01:44
Pelogrims, laptop ?01:44
grimsEach time I reboot, before it goes to the login screen it seems like it goes into sleep mode.01:44
grimsNo01:44
hauppaugeanyone know of a good bluetooth manager for ubuntu where i can browse my phones storage card like you can under windows??01:44
Chaotic_DescentYes. NTFS partitions.01:44
LSGiowa^: Are you using Compiz as a window decorator?01:44
Pelogrims, laptop could have been an overheat issue,  might be the same with a desktop I guess01:45
Chaotic_DescentI have a day to pack. I don't have time for tutorials right now. I didn't know upgrading my ver of Ubuntu was going to cause all these problems.01:45
Pelo!ntfs | Chaotic_Descent01:45
ubotuChaotic_Descent: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE01:45
tininwich graphical tool could I use to see my bandwith, connections...01:45
bazhanghttp://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/ Chaotic_Descent here is a nice beginner's bit01:45
DooDle@hauppauge : It depends on on phone brand!01:45
grimsPelo, the desktop is in its own AC'd room right now at a steady 60F :\01:45
Malaziowa, I really don't know how to change that without installing a different window manager like emerald.  Metacity isn't that tweakable.  I'm sure there is a way to change titlebar transparency (in fact, think I saw it before)  but I can't think of how to do it.  Perhaps someone else knows?01:45
iowa^LSG: metacity i think, "standard" that comes with hardy with visual effects on01:45
PeloChaotic_Descent,   ok then   open a terminal    sudo apt-get install ntfs-config ,     then look for it in the applications menu01:46
hauppaugeDooDle: well i can browse etc under windows but havnt found a good bluetooth browser program for linux yet01:46
grimsPelo, I also ran memtest86+ to make sure it wasn't the ram and the ram did not fail any tests.01:46
iowa^Malaz: yeah really strange, and i dont want to run emerald01:46
LSGiowa^: Yeah, i've looked everywhere for those transparencies and i haven't found them.01:46
liamdoes anyone know what the adress of the ubuntu headquarters is01:46
DooDle@hauppauge : What's your mobile phone..?01:46
Chaotic_Descentthanks, bazhang. I'll bookmark that and look at that next week when I'm back from my trip.01:47
Pelogrims, I have no idea,   try researching it in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org  search for related keywords like lockup or crash01:47
hauppaugeDooDle: LG enV01:47
iowa^LSG: yeah, i've looked in gconf-editor, but nothing there either.01:47
_hellohas any one used nvidia 8600 ??01:47
Chaotic_DescentThanks, Pelo.01:47
grimsPelo, okay -- thanks!01:48
SeaPhor_hello, I have 860001:48
liam does anyone know what the adress of the ubuntu headquarters is, the US one01:48
bazhang_hello: is that your real question?01:48
Chaotic_Descentcurses. Error : An error occured when trying to initialize HAL.  Can't search for new partition.01:48
eventualbuddhaI (stupidly) did a usermod --uid on my account and now it's screwed up (login prompt is weird, can't sudo, etc). any ideas on how to fix this?01:48
SeaPhor_hello, I have 8600, whats the question?01:48
Malaziowa, I'd try to find it in compiz-settings-manager, but I don't have it installed right now, and KDE doesn't really like it, anyways.  But I'm sure someone else knows.  If all else fails, try Google.01:49
Peloiowa^, no visual effects to speak of  metacity in hardy (gnome 2.22) does some compoziting,   shadows transparencies  some minor animation of menues and  close maximize of windows , nothing major but it allows you to run screenlets and avant ,   in   gconf-editor , under app metacity general  compoziting01:49
_helloSeaphor, are u getting right fps as u get on win01:49
CarbonfluxI use a 8600 also01:49
Carbonfluxheh01:49
_hellocarbonflux, same question for u too01:49
Carbonflux_hello, well you are asking if I get the same frame rate I do in windows ?01:50
SeaPhor_hello, I get better than when i'm on my windows partition if thats what you're asking?01:50
Carbonfluxusing what application ?01:50
hauppaugeDooDle: i bought that cirago small bluetooth adapter now  i just need some bluetooth software for ubuntu where i can drag/drop stuff01:50
eventualbuddhaah, there we go. sudo vim /etc/passwd01:50
iowa^Pelo: yeah, know that, but its strange that you cannot turn off titlebar transp. with compiz/metacity.01:50
DooDle@hauppauge: Have a look there : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7597801:50
_helloSeaphor, u meant u get it better on ubuntu :)01:51
Carbonfluxif you are talking about running a videogame in wine vs native in windows you will not get the same frame rates01:51
lobazoplease help me how can i load a subtitle in totem?01:51
iowa^Malaz: i've looked everywhere in compiz-settings-manager too, and i found nothing either.01:51
ng0nis wine really any good ?01:51
DooDle@hauppauge : Don't bother about he SE stuff, and sick to it!01:51
SeaPhor_hello, I play an online game called city of heroes,,, better graphics faster zone times and almost zero lag?01:51
Peloiowa^, you need to pick a theme with no transparency tnen ,01:51
ximare there any dark themes that are actually usable? (meaning they dont ruin how text is displayed in firefox and pidgin and evolution)01:51
_helloCArbonFlux i know ,  i meant i am getting lags:( on compiz 3d desktop too :(01:51
Carbonfluxng0n, well, it can be it your really work on it01:51
iowa^Pelo: well im using clearlooks... only way to disable it is to disable visual effects i guess..01:52
SeaPhor_hello, yes, same machine, same hardware, better on Ubuntu 7.1001:52
Malaziowa, I'm sure there's an option in a conf file somewhere.01:52
TehLulzeDoes SWAT require apache?01:52
_helloSeaphor, thznks for that info.. any way how did u installed the driver :)01:52
iowa^Malaz: yeah, probably.01:52
Carbonflux_hello, what kind of cpu do you have ?01:52
hauppaugeDooDle: i am running gnome looks like those are for kde01:52
Peloiowa^, you do get that  desktop effect and metacity compziting are not the same right ?01:52
ng0nwill wine run OUTLOOK ?01:52
ximwhy would you want to do that?01:53
Carbonfluxng0n, yes, but virtual box is a better pick for that in some ways if you take the trouble01:53
Peloiowa^,  you can use metacity in compiz,  but not at the same time as emerald , ask in #compiz01:53
iowa^Pelo: yes, i do, desktop effect = compiz01:53
DooDle@hauppauge : You're right, KDE stuff...01:53
_helloCarbonFlux i am using pentium D X86_64 3.001:53
Carbonfluxng0n, Wine is really good at running some video games01:53
ng0nxim.  i hear ya.  let's say i'm NUTS.01:53
Chaotic_Descentwhew. that first link you gave me worked. that second method you described in here didn't work. :>01:53
ximhaha ok01:53
DooDle@hauppauge : Sorry bout that!01:53
bazhang!appdb | ng0n read about what will run here01:53
ubotung0n read about what will run here: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org01:53
iowa^Pelo: yeah i am aware of that.01:53
_hellocarbonflux, its kinda old :(01:53
Chaotic_Descentregardless, thanks for getting my NTFS HDs accessible.01:53
Malaziowa, I'll look it up, but I doubt anything will be found.01:53
ximbut i dont know, i use VMware for all my windows stuffs01:53
PeloChaotic_Descent, np01:53
Chaotic_Descentsorry for being an eternal newb.01:53
Carbonflux_hello, ya it really, I have the same configuration and its running quite fast.01:54
Carbonfluxit really is odd*01:54
Chaotic_DescentI promise I'll work harder at learning when I'm not in such a rush. ;)01:54
ng0nok.  actually i'm about ready to just bag MS.  I am technical enough to hack it and keep it running.. but the thrill is going01:54
* Carbonflux thinks about it01:54
PeloChaotic_Descent,  being a noob is noting to apologise for, as long as yo learn something01:54
hauppaugeD00Dle: maybe i can use my bluetooth under a virtual machine01:54
SeaPhor_hello, didnt have to, was in the restricted drivers, i just enabled it, BUT! before i tried to update it with the one from nvidias site, after i did that messed things up and had to revert01:54
Malaziowa: Success!  Found a blog entry on it, should help you out: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/04/adjust-the-transparency-of-window-decorations-with-compiz/01:54
iowa^Malaz: okay! you dont have to, its not a big deal, only irritating ;)01:54
Carbonfluxng0n, I installed XP in a virtual box and that does everything I need01:54
iowa^Malaz: thanks! :D01:54
Pelohauppauge, doesn'T bluetooth in ubuntu access your device automaticaly ?01:54
ng0nhey.01:54
ng0nSMART01:54
Carbonfluxand its a lot safer01:55
RolcolCarbonflux, any problems with the virtual XP?01:55
Chaotic_Descenteh. I've been a noob for over a decade. I only have so much motivation to spend time learning this abstract technology stuff.01:55
ng0ncarbon flux:  exactly.  tnx.  i'll try it.01:55
iowa^Malaz: hats off to you! :D01:55
CarbonfluxRolcol, I have problems with seamless mode because of Twinview01:55
hauppaugepelo: naw it gives me some error, when trying to communicate with it but i can see it... headset fone etc ...01:55
_helloSeaphor, ok i got it:)01:55
ng0ngotta run.  tnx u all.01:55
SeaPhorCarbonflux, how can i do that instead of having a dual-boot system?01:55
Malaziowa: It was the top entry for "compiz window decoration transparency" on google.  You should try searching for something like that next time.01:55
Pelohauppauge, did you research the error msg in the forum ?  www.ubuntuforums.org01:55
RolcolCarbonflux, which program do you use?01:55
CarbonfluxRolcol, otherwise its been a really stable solution, I use it in Vista also to run linux heh and can move the VM's around over my network between windows and linux and run them01:56
hauppaugepelo: naw i just gave up i didnt presue it01:56
CarbonfluxRolcol, virtualbox.org01:56
Pelo...01:56
Pelois vbox free ?01:56
Rolcolpelo, yes01:56
CarbonfluxRolcol, there is also a open source version in the ubuntu repo's01:56
hauppaugepelo: yes01:56
ximis anyone decently familiar with xchat-gnome client01:56
PeloRolcol, does it have a .deb package , is i in the repos ?01:56
CarbonfluxRolcol, most I use the windows XP vbox in Linux to run media players01:57
hauppaugei wish virtualbox could let you see pci/xpress devices in vm's01:57
iowa^Malaz: yeah, well, i searched something similiar, with no sucess, and its quite late over here ;) thanks01:57
ng0n....01:57
RolcolPelo, it is in the repositories01:57
Peloxim, enough to tell ppl to install xchat instead01:57
ExlaxI am glad to report, that nvidia-settings is now reporting that my drivers are correct.01:57
bazhang!info virtualbox-ose01:57
ubotuvirtualbox-ose (source: virtualbox-ose): PC virtualization solution. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0-dfsg2-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 5561 kB, installed size 17988 kB01:57
ExlaxBut it's giving me some errors in the terminal.01:57
PeloRolcol, can it mount my xp partiton ?01:57
_hellohey is vb better that VmWare ?01:57
Carbonfluxhauppauge, heh I don't :) I use vbox as a kind of jail for windows apps01:57
ximpelo why is that? i like this look better than crazy tabs everywhere01:57
hauppauge_hello i would say so01:57
whileimhereWhats the big difference between Gobuntu and Ubuntu? I know that it has to do with open source verses not open but for example my laptop has no proprietary drivers. So does that mean Gobuntu will work okay most likely with it?01:58
RolcolI'm not sure, pelo.  I've just started using it but even then only for Linux virtual machines01:58
ximbut my problem is it seems completely impossible to use anything other than the default port01:58
CarbonfluxVMWare is non-free also01:58
_hellook01:58
DooDle@hauppauge : I never tried a USB dongle trough a VM machime!01:58
Peloxim, crazy tabs everywhere ? only at the botom of the window, or in treeview if that,s wath yo want01:58
_helloVMWare server is free and good but dont know about vb01:58
hauppaugeD00dle: i'll try it out ...01:58
Braydon619can anyone help me? i'm trying to  stream certain videos on the net and only some sites work? anyone know how to fix that?01:58
PeloRolcol, thanks01:58
Carbonflux_hello, vbox is free and open source01:58
Rolcol_hello, I personally don't like that you have to still register for the serial number for VMWare01:58
Braydon619can anyone help me? i'm trying to  stream certain videos on the net and only some sites work? anyone know how to fix that?01:59
Pelo_hello, I'm told that vbox is less resource hungry but I havn'T tried it yet01:59
_helloRolCol yes right ;)01:59
ximhmm ok, dammit im too lazy for linux, ive just been keeping pages of lists of all my problems that I run into with everything I do, and its really beating me down01:59
PeloBraydon619, what format ?01:59
Braydon619umm? i'm not to sure01:59
Peloxim, just ask one at a time01:59
DooDleGotta go now!!! Too late here!!! :P01:59
DooDleSee you all!01:59
iowa^cya =)01:59
Pelog'night DooDle02:00
ExlaxSo, I guess it is fixed, sort of.02:00
PeloExlax, realy ?02:00
Braydon619one of the files is .swf02:00
ExlaxUm, yeah, i can play LOTRO, and i can use Compiz effects02:00
Exlaxnvidia-settings says its at 169.1202:00
PeloBraydon619,  that's flash,  did you install flashplugin-nonfree ?02:00
iowa^Braydon619: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree02:00
Carbonfluxwell, on this machine I can run a full copy of windows XP in a vbox with all the memory settings maxed and run all more normal linux apps ( which is alot ) and not even use 1/2 my ram02:00
Peloiowa^, make him enable the backport repos first02:01
arvind_khadribazhang, hi...02:01
Carbonfluxalso vbox is nice about using processors02:01
Carbonfluxit will only use one processor02:01
bazhanghi arvind_khadri!02:01
Braydon619says it's already newest version02:01
iowa^Pelo: yeah ;) forgot about that02:01
SeaPhorExlax, good to hear it! :-))02:01
Peloiowa^, and make him do it with the gui , not with the sources.list file02:01
ExlaxIt reports some errors when nvidia-setting though02:02
Carbonflux_hello, I wish I had a idea about your graphics issues but don't, it might be something else or it could be you have a heat problem and the card is slowing itself down, also you are using the restricted driver right ?02:02
Braydon619the command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree says that i have is newest version02:02
solotitanif I install 8.04 rc, does that mean in two days i will have to download the stable version and reinstall or will it just download the appropriate updates?02:02
_hellocarbonflux, right i did some mistake02:02
PeloExlax, I recommend you come back on different days maybe on the weekend  different crowd maybe someone will have a better solution for you02:02
CarbonfluxI had nothing but problems with VMWare on all my machines02:02
ExlaxWell it works02:02
Mark_Gsolotitan: it will just update02:02
Carbonfluxvirtual box is simple and works good02:03
Carbonfluxits like night and day02:03
solotitanok thanks02:03
_hellocarbonfluxm i will reinstall it and sort the things out :)02:03
ExlaxERROR: Unable to assign attribute XVideoTextureContrast specified on line 51 of02:03
Exlax       configuration file '/home/x/.nvidia-settings-rc' (no Display02:03
Exlax       connection).02:03
Mark_GCarbonflux: do you have usb support with virtual box?02:03
Exlaxthats an example of the error given.02:03
Carbonflux_hello, a clean install, make sure you use the restricted drivers etc02:03
PeloBraydon619,that's all I had maybe you need to  stream those vids using somethjing oter then firefox, try with  mplayer vlc or xine02:03
iowa^Braydon619: System, Adminstration, Software Sources > Updates > Enable Unsupported updates (backports)02:03
_helloExlax whats ur nvidia card no ?02:03
chrisf826hello :)02:04
SeaPhorExlax, and wait and see, what is right and what is wrong, some things may be fixed with an update to something else that is a dependency02:04
CarbonfluxMark_G, I have not tested it but I used the .deb package from their site, closed source binaries so I could support the USB stuff, I have not tested it tho :(02:04
chrisf826is there a way to install the src to the restricted modules packages02:04
_helloSeaphor, tell me what do u use to play that game u just told me :)02:04
Mark_GCarbonflux: just wondering.. I've had nothing but success with VMWare server.. :)02:04
chrisf826to be compiled at the same time you compiule a new kernel deb02:05
CarbonfluxMark_G, I can say this, it does install the USB driver and that works fine in Linux but does give me a error in windows02:05
maluquinho___hello02:05
wooker__How can i play mp3 files02:05
maluquinho___first using ubuntu. slackware user.02:05
SeaPhorExlax, PM me'02:05
Mark_GCarbonflux: you mean VMWare server in windows?02:05
Exlax_hello: 8800gtx02:05
maluquinho___a lot of docs to read.02:05
bazhangwooker__: install ubuntu-restricted-extras02:05
maluquinho___I would like to know the following:02:05
Mimiwooker__ go to  start menu ? > add remove >  search there for "mp3" download and install the Gnome Extras02:05
maluquinho___in slackware I can ftp and get all updates and burn a cd to use later.02:06
Malazwooker: enable universe repos from system>software sources, then install the ubuntu restricted package02:06
gogeta2 days left!02:06
CarbonfluxMark_G, well I am new to VM's and tried VMWare first in Vista heh, I assume VMware is a lot more mature and people do say its faster02:06
Mimiyayayay!!02:06
maluquinho___how to do this kind of thing with ubuntu?02:06
Braydon619the update thing under administration didn't work... i can't seem to figure this out why i can't play all streamed videos02:06
Lunksf'maluquinho___: there's aptoncd02:06
chrisf826you can get source code packages via aptitude as well?02:06
gogetamaluquinho___ you can in ubuntu to but your looking at 4 dvds02:06
_hellogogeta yesterday it was just coming soon02:06
Malazmaluquin: Apt-on-CD.  Download it from main repo02:06
caligarn1037hi folks, i've been getting a problem with hardy lately....when i do "sudo apt-get update" i'll eventually get this message: "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://vn.archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>", how do i fix this02:06
gogeta_hello oh did it get delayed02:07
Mark_GCarbonflux: if it was the "Home" addition that may be why you were having issues.  The home addition doesn't have IIS which is needed and supplied with the pro version.  However there is a hack to add IIS to "Home".. haven't tried it yet though.02:07
ThanatosHey gUys, I have a lot of questions about 32-bit/64-bit os and cPUs. Can anyone pm me? Or is that possible on this channel?02:07
maluquinho___atponcd... i will search for... thank you.02:07
_hellogogeta i think so :(02:07
LunksIt's not exactly the same thing and I don't like it very much as it only gets what's in the cache, but it should do the job. Boa sorte. :)02:07
GamingXHow do I synchronise Thunderbird on both Ubuntu and Windows XP so that whatever mail I download on Ubuntu, can also be read on Windows?02:07
CarbonfluxMark_G, I just don't want to turn off driver signing :)02:07
Malazmaluquin It's a nice GUI for copying some stuff from your apt cache to CD, then using later by adding cd as a repo02:07
bbyevercaligarn1037: join #ubuntu+102:07
Braydon619how do i disable totem-firefox? someone on net said that might help with streaming videos02:07
caligarn1037bbyever: thanks02:07
Mark_GCarbonflux: :)02:07
SeaPhorExlax, PM me'02:07
kidzhi, I want to know how to install xchat onto ubuntu desktop version? cuz when I go to the xchat site, it only provide a Windows and Fedora one02:07
ThanatosMy problem is: I have a 4GB RAM setup, and I'm wondering if I should get a 64-bit OS? Even though the CPU is 32-bit. Is that possible?02:08
bbyevercaligarn1037: np02:08
_helloSeaPhor, tell me what do u use to play that game u just told me :) i meant wine or crossover or something else02:08
SeaPhorExlax, PM me'02:08
pinksovietkidz - Go to Application, Add/Remove, and search for X-chat02:08
iowa^GamingX: well, you are fetching mail from a server, dont think its possible without a plugin that syncs between the windows and thunderbird apps02:08
ExlaxI did, SeaPhor02:08
gogetaThanatos inpossbale and 32-bit can use 4gb of ram anyways02:08
ThanatosSo I should stick to 32-bit everything?02:08
bbyeverkidz: sudo apt-get install xchat02:08
gogetaThanatos 4 gb is rhe max02:08
CarbonfluxMark_G, I was thinking about waiting until VMWare server supports Windows Server 2008, there will be signed drivers then, I have tried VMWare in Linux at all ?02:08
ThanatosThanks!02:09
GamingXCan't the mail be stored in a common location to both?02:09
bazhangkidz: sudo apt-get install xchat (not xcaht-gnome)02:09
gogetaThanatos a 32 bit pc cant run 64 b bit apps02:09
kidz00, ok02:09
pinksovietOn the other hand, would anybody know how to configure sysfsutils to begin at boot up?02:09
iowa^GamingX: well, it should be possible, i dont have the knowledge tho, google it :)02:10
SuperQThanatos: the only limit to using 4G of ram with 32bit OS is single processes can only use so much memory due to architecture problems02:10
New_lemmingIs anyone else having problems with firefox since the update to 2.0.0.14?02:10
SuperQThanatos: but unless you know you need that much for a single thread, it's not an issue02:10
chrisf826making a kernel is pretty easy on ubuntu lol02:11
HymnToLifeNew_lemming: switch to 3 :)02:11
SuperQThanatos: Either way, if you don't have amd64, you have to use 32bit.02:11
iowa^GamingX: found this: http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=446802:11
ThanatosSuperQ: What about Intel Core 2 Duo T8300 / 2.4 GHz processor?02:11
ThanatosIs that 64-bit?02:11
iowa^GamingX: damn, dead link.02:11
SuperQThanatos: yes, that should do amd64 mode02:11
prakriticore2 duo's are 64 bit02:11
HymnToLifeThanatos: yes, it's 64-bit compatible too02:12
Zackymc_khow do i join 8.04 suport?02:12
bazhangSuperQ: not quite correct; core 2 duo can use 64 bit as well02:12
ZeltaThe processor is 64-bit, but you need a 64bit OS to use 64bit apps02:12
prakritiI should say that core2 is 64bit02:12
SeaPhorExlax, I sent you all you need,, in PM02:12
SuperQbazhang: that's what I just said02:12
prakritiZackymc_k : #ubuntu+102:12
nks16Hello All, I'm somewhat new to ubuntu. I would like to know if anyone would happen to know of a program that's able to run Windows XP programs only on a ubuntu 7.10 laptop?02:12
iowa^GamingX: google "thunderbird mail sharing" :)02:12
ThanatosSuperQ: So then it _would_ be advisable to upgrade to 64-bit. I think I will! Thanks.02:12
prakritiZackymc_k : /join #ubuntu+102:12
SuperQThanatos: no02:12
SuperQThanatos: if you don't have > 4G of ram, and you don't know you need it02:12
ximwouldnt you think, if i put the port number after the server domain with a colon thats how the xchat-gnome would want it02:12
maluquinho___Thanks. I will keep reading. I found aptoncd. Good. Thanks again. bye.02:12
chrisf826so it uses both the x86_64 and the amd instruction sets?02:12
SuperQThanatos: there is NO reason to use amd6402:12
Mimi!wine  nks1602:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wine  nks16 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:12
Mimi!wine > nks1602:12
SuperQThanatos: using amd64 on a desktop is just asking for problems02:12
ThanatosIs it possible to dual boot both a 64-bit and a 32-bit OS?02:12
Mimioops :)02:12
HymnToLifewell, Intel's x86_64 implementation is pretty much a copy-and-paste of AMD's02:13
ExlaxThanks, SeaPhor02:13
SuperQHymnToLife: yup02:13
HymnToLifeso in a way, Core 2's _are_ amd64 :p02:13
SuperQHymnToLife: yup02:13
arvind_khadriSuperQ i use one,and i dont have much of probs though02:13
SuperQHymnToLife: cpu feature LM02:13
prakriti64 bit linux just isn't really ready for the desktop yet02:13
Miminks16:  Sorry about that xD! What you are looking for is http://www.winehq.org/  also check  #winehq channel02:13
nks16Thank you Mimi02:13
ximI'm using gutsy on AMD 64 and never have any trouble with it02:13
SuperQprakriti: yup02:13
HymnToLifeprakriti: 64bit Windows isn't, either02:13
SuperQhere's the trick we do at work for 64 vs 3202:13
ximexcept all the irc software was written by retards02:13
SuperQwe install 32bit OS02:13
SuperQand then run a 64bit kernel02:13
ThanatosWhat possible problems could arise from using 64-bit Gutsy/64-bit Vista or XP?02:13
prakritiHymnToLife : i don't use windows, I wouldn't know02:13
HymnToLifeawhatever the hell "ready for the destop"(TM) means02:14
SuperQthis way we get both02:14
Mark_Gprakriti: you might say that users aren't ready for 64bit on the desktop..02:14
HymnToLifedesktop*02:14
CorbinFoxwhat are the advantages to uses a 64bit system vs 32bit install? speed?02:14
SuperQfor the specific applications that we know need > 3G of ram per process, we compile them to 64bit02:14
New_lemmingSince allowing the auto upgrade to upgrade firefox to 2.0.0.14 today the browser no longer renders graphics.  Anyone else seen this?02:14
SuperQCorbinFox: MORE BITS! ;)02:14
SuperQCorbinFox: really, it is very application dependant02:14
bazhangCorbinFox: nearly none02:14
Mark_GNew_lemming: no02:14
SuperQCorbinFox: some things run faster in 32-bit, others run faster in 64-bit02:14
mosibfuNew_lemming, at the max u need to wait 24 hours, then hardy is out.. firefox 3 ^^02:15
SuperQThe simple fact is.. most common desktop applications do NOT need 64-bit02:15
* Mimi geekogasms02:15
chrisf826superq: i read something really interesting on how the cpu handles anything above 3gb, a kernel has to boot the 64 bit chip into linear mode02:15
ThanatosIs it possible to dual boot both a 64-bit and a 32-bit OS? So I can try it out?02:15
CorbinFoxso not a big deal? ok, cool.  now i dont feel bad about using 32bit just in case it was inferior somehow :D02:15
arvind_khadriThanatos, yeah sure02:15
chrisf826then it has to manage its own global dexcriptor tables02:15
SuperQchrisf826: I'm not sure what you're talking about02:15
New_lemmingsorry, not going to use hardy until it is proven......hardy.   :)02:15
chrisf826and address management02:15
SuperQThanatos: yes, of course02:16
fdspelo, after reinstalling the kernel 2.6.24-16 packages, i can't boot into either kernel02:16
* Pelo just remapped his mouse button 02:16
chrisf826superq: i am trying to make sense of the non amd chips method of bootstrap02:16
=== fds is now known as tawt1
chrisf826amd has an additional mode02:16
chrisf826a kernel can use02:16
MimiNew_lemming:  I woudlnt worry too much about upgrading; unlike other operating systems, ubuntu's serious bugs are fixed quickly :002:16
Pelofds,  that one is easy02:16
tawt1pelo, after reinstalling the kernel 2.6.24-16 packages, i can't boot into either kernel02:16
tawt1sorry I cant get my nick for some reason02:17
tc111receiving an error message:  start-stop-daemon: stat /home/scarter/folding/FAH/fah6 -smp -verbosity 9: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)02:17
SuperQchrisf826: Yea, I havn't looked into the specific CPU modes for x86_64/amd64 in a long time02:17
tc111works without the -smp and -verbosity 9 switches02:17
SuperQspeaking of 64bit builds, god that one took forever02:17
tawt1pelo, what do i do?02:17
tc111this is in an init script that can be found here:  http://pastebin.com/m64cbeef602:18
mawI just enabled ati restricted drivers and upon restart, I get stuck at "running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" anyone seen this before or know what is wrong?02:19
Pelotawt1,  that one is easy ,  installint new kernel reconfigures the grub menu .lst file,   do this , once you are in the grub menu,  at boot,   select an entry ,  hit e to edit , find the root line,  hit e to edit ,  if I remember correctly from your pastebin you boot to   root (hd0,2),    fix the line to say that,   hit enter  to acept then hit b to boot ,    you'll need to make those chjanges permanenet in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  file after02:19
Pelo you reboot02:19
arvind_khadrimaw, envy??02:19
mawarvind_khadri: sorry?02:19
Peloenvy is a sin02:19
Pelo!envy02:19
ubotuenvy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »02:19
ximwhen you do /pass [password] is that nickserv?02:20
arvind_khadrimaw, did you use envy to install the drivers??02:20
mawno02:20
ximwhen you do [slash]pass [password] is that nickserv?02:20
mawI just went to system > restricted drivers02:20
ximoops02:20
mawput a checkmark beside ATI02:20
arvind_khadrimaw, ok , go to recovery mode and reconfigure your X02:20
Peloxim, should be /msg nickserv identify password02:20
tawt1pelo, can you elaborate?02:20
tawt1pelo, i'm still pretty new02:21
mawarvind_khadri: thought so.. should I replace the ati entries with "vesa" or something?02:21
arvind_khadriPelo, envy is in the repo's for 8.0402:21
ximpelo, but this one server wants my password in the /pass format and im not sure what blank to put that in in my settings, is there a name for that authentication system?02:21
arvind_khadrimaw, try reconfiguring once if it doesnt ,then replace nv with vesa02:21
Pelotawt1, not realy much to elaborate,   installing a new kernel updated your /boot/grub/menu.lst file,   it does that to me and it puts the root line bck to  (hd0,1) ,  that's not the one I need,   it's probably the same with you02:22
mawok thx02:22
bazhang!info envyng-gtk02:22
ubotuPackage envyng-gtk does not exist in gutsy02:22
bazhang!info envyng-gtk hardy02:22
ubotuenvyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB02:22
tc111receiving an error message:  start-stop-daemon: stat /home/scarter/folding/FAH/fah6 -smp -verbosity 9: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)02:22
tc111works without the -smp and -verbosity 9 switches02:23
tawt1pelo, "if I remember correctly from your pastebin you boot to root (hd0,2), fix the line to say that, hit enter  to acept" can you elaborate this section?02:23
tc111this is in an init script that can be found here:  http://pastebin.com/m64cbeef602:23
Pelotawt1,  so reboot the computer,  from the grub boot menu  select the first entry and type  "E"  to edit it ,   fine the  root  line  and type E to edit that ,   then change it to  root (hd0,2)   and hit enter, then hit  B and you should boot into your kernel02:23
AliRezaTaleghaniHello, i have a littleproblem,  i don't know why their is  a 1 or 2 second delay, for my GDM to responding , when i select a window or panel, or ant other app02:23
AliRezaTaleghaniwhat should i do?02:23
arvind_khadri!repeat | tc11102:23
ubotutc111: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience02:23
tawt1pelo, how do i "change" it02:23
whileimhereStupid question and wrong room to ask but the best people to ask as well. If Amazons Mp3 downloads are DRM free does that mean I can put them onto a CD in WAV format and use them with no hassle in my car?02:23
Pelotawt1,  so reboot the computer,  from the grub boot menu  select the first entry and type  "E"  to edit it ,   fine the  root  line  and type E to edit that ,   then change it to  root (hd0,2)   and hit enter, then hit  B and you should boot into your kernel02:23
Peloyou type with your keybaord02:23
tawt1pelo, that's all?02:24
bazhangwhileimhere: they are not in wav but in mp3 format02:24
Pelotawt1,  changes made from the boot menu are not permanent,  you'll need to go in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and edit it to make it permanenent02:24
Pelotawt1, yep that is all02:24
=== goget1 is now known as gogeta
Peloassuming I got it right02:24
Pelowhich I probably do02:25
tawt1pelo, ok, thank.  i'll be back to tell what happened02:25
Pelothere is no other reason that I know of  tha twould effect both kernel02:25
Pelotawt1, best of luck02:25
whileimherebazhang can I convert them without any issues?02:25
wvmac@pelo I think I have the same problem but I want to be sure. after a fresh install of hardy or an upgrade I can not boot. It just stays at the splash screen02:25
debatem1does anybody have the md5sum for the x86_64 hardy rc?02:25
bazhangwhileimhere: sure, but why degrade them more--mp3 cd's work fine in most modern hardware players02:26
Pelowvmac, this problem ( tawt1 's one)  won't let you get to the spalsh screen,  you get a msg right in the grub menu at boot02:26
debatem1wvmac: ditto02:26
whileimherebazhang because Im oldschooooolll02:26
Pelo!md502:26
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows02:26
Wesmokeditallanyone got pinnacle hdtv usb to work b4?02:26
debatem1wvmac: you get all kinds of I/O errors?02:26
wvmacsomething about filesystem02:27
bazhangdebatem1: should be where you downloaded the iso from02:27
* Pelo enabled metacity compiziting , just for the hell of it 02:27
whileimhereIve got the list of the VH1 top 100 of the 80s and I have almost all of the original Lps and LOL are you ready for this CDs!!!! but there are a few I dont and instead of buying a whole album well a single might do for now.02:27
gogetabazhang aac beats all02:27
Pelowvmac, do you know what partion your ubuntu is on ?02:27
debatem1bazhang: didn't see one, im still looking but since I'm evidently blind and/or stupid its not going well02:28
wvmachd0,002:28
Pelowvmac, got any other os on there ?02:28
wvmacno02:28
bazhangdebatem1: do you have the link?02:28
Pelowvmac,  then you probably won'T get this particualr problem I wasn talking to tawt about02:28
wvmacgutsy and feisty never gave me this problem02:28
astro76debatem1: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/02:29
astro76debatem1: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS02:29
debatem1astro76: thx02:29
Pelowvmac,  betas are betas for a reason   they are for trouble shooting,  I know there was a problematic relesae of -16 last week,   it gave me trouble I had to boot 15 to use the comp02:29
lchis there an easy way to get a server for a network install running? like starting a script on the livecd? (i know how to set up a server, but if there were an easy way to run the install/live cd inthat mode it would be good to know :-)02:30
debatem1ah good, just a bad burn02:30
TehLulzeIs anyone here familiar with Jinzora?02:30
ximdo all dark colored themes make text unreadable in firefox and pidgin and evolution02:30
wvmacpelo, do you think it will be safe to try another upgrade soon02:30
Pelowvmac, just wait for the official , two days from now02:30
Pelodepending on where you are02:30
bazhanglch: server is text install; no live cd for that iirc02:30
bazhangTehLulze: what is it02:31
lchbazhang: that is ok. there is a laptop w/o cdrom and the net install would be the easist way to install.02:31
TehLulzebazhang: How do I get it to stream instead of me having to down the m3u file every time?02:31
bazhanglch: you have a system on there already?02:32
bazhangTehLulze: you never told me what jinzora was ;]02:32
TehLulzebazhang: Ohhh02:32
mardukraziel63.99.211.87:800002:32
TehLulzeBazhang: Its a media server02:32
lchbazhang: but for the tftp server it would be nice to be able to run it on the live cd on an other machine. i'd do the install at an other place (windoze users.. ;-)02:32
Seven_Six_Twoif the modem is on my router's WAN, my pc is on *.*.1.5 and my friend's wifi router's wan port is plugged into my lan port(his router's LAN ip range is *.*.2.*), what would be required to use nfs/samba in the different subnet?02:33
LeodimeSo quiet...02:34
PeloSeven_Six_Two, maybe you can ask in #networking or in #samba02:34
gaspipe1sup people02:34
* Pelo slaps Leodime and runs away 02:34
bazhanglch: is there an os on that laptop already?02:34
lchSeven_Six_Two: that should work out of the box, as long as the computers know how to reach each other. check "route" if there is a gateway from one net to the other02:34
LeodimeHey, come back here!02:34
* Leodime chases Pelo02:35
lchbazhang: i'm not sure. maybe a windows, but i'd like to format the entire disk anyway02:35
* Pelo gets a wet towel to defend himself02:35
LeodimeOh no!02:35
lesjohni got gran paradiso from the repository to try it out but it seems to be an old alpha -- is there any way to get a newer version without compiling it myself?02:35
SeaPhorSeven_Six_Two, i could pull out my books and do the math, but i'm lazy, try googling  subnetting02:35
bazhanglch: if it is windows or even another linux you could do unetbootin to get that up and running02:35
astro76Seven_Six_Two: if you use the LAN port of your friend's wifi router and disable it's DHCP server, you could use the same subnet02:35
Pelolesjohn, try  www.getdeb.net maybe02:35
Seven_Six_TwoPelo, #networking maybe. I don't really want to use samba, just want it to work like he's on my subnet02:35
bazhanglesjohn: you plan on upgrading to hardy?02:36
Who_Does anyone know how to get multi finger taps working on a synaptics touchpad?02:36
PeloSeven_Six_Two, no one was answering ad this is over my head, I was just directing you where maybe ....02:36
Seven_Six_Twoastro76, yeah, but will that affect the wireless?02:36
astro76Who_: it should just work if your touchpad supports it (two finger = right click, three finger = middle click)02:36
Pelo!touchpad > Who_ check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu02:36
astro76Seven_Six_Two: nope it would work fine as an AP, and connect you right to the main router and it's DHCP server02:37
rixthI have no sound in wine, can anyone help me?02:37
PeloWho_,  there is a guide in there for emulating double click02:37
ufita.02:37
lesjohnbazhang: i'll upgrade, but only after waiting awhile -- i'm on powerpc so i'm hoping to wait until problems are worked out02:37
rixthI get "(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave" in the terminal02:37
Pelorixth, type wincfg and go to the audio tab , select the asla bit02:37
Seven_Six_Twoastro76, ok thanks. when you bridge some routers it gets disabled so I wasn't sure if that would have the same effect02:37
rixthPelo, yeah? Alsa is ticked02:38
Pelorixth, might want to upgrad to the latest version of wine also  0.9.6002:38
bazhanglesjohn: the upgrade has firefox beta 5 (final in June) worth the price of the upgrade alone ;]02:38
Pelorixth, other then that ask in #winehq02:38
Seven_Six_Twoastro76, bridge combo modem/routers with wifi I mean02:38
rixthPelo, I am using 0.9.60, but thanks, I'll go to that channel02:39
lesjohnbazhang: great, thanks (:02:39
crimsunrixth: gutsy or hardy?02:39
* Pelo wonders what 3d desktop realy mean, is it only shadows and things like that that make it look a bit 3d or is there more 02:39
rixthI had the problem in gutsy, so thought I'd go to hardy, but it remained.02:40
Seven_Six_Twolch, I wouldn't care if I had to add routes on the machines, but I don't know how to do it with the one last xp machine here, so I think I'll try the other way first02:40
crimsunrixth: padsp -- wine foo.exe ?02:40
bazhangits the cube02:40
Who__Does anyone know how to get multi finger taps working on a synaptics touchpad?02:40
crimsunrixth: or pasuspender -- wine foo.exe02:40
Who__I have the simple two-finger tap -> button 3 but I want two finger + CLICK --> button 302:40
PeloWho__,  did you check the link ubotu gave you in private ?02:40
Who__ubotu didn't give me one...02:41
lchSeven_Six_Two: xp has a route command too, sliglitly different syntax than ubuntu but similar enough. what you need is a machine that can reach both networks as gateway02:41
Who__Ooh, now it has :02:41
Who__)02:41
Shadow420man this room is dead tonight02:41
rixthcrimsun, I get that error when running winecfg02:41
PeloWho__, mightjust need to remap the buttons in xorg02:41
n1lohow can i configure the compiz? Is there a menu for that?02:41
Who__Pelo, but it was with an error02:41
urthmoverparty down 42102:41
tawtpelo, it already was root  (hd0,2)02:41
bazhang!ccsm | n1lo02:41
ubotun1lo: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion02:41
urthmoverboh boh02:41
Joesephhey, is there a good program to study european countries?02:41
Pelotawt, canyou boot recovery mode ?02:42
urthmoveroops 42202:42
Who__Pelo: don't think so - it needs to have some detection of multi fingers too...02:42
tawtpelo, not tried02:42
lchSeven_Six_Two: the other posibility if these subnets are on the same physical network, thy to assign a second network address unsing "ifconfig eth0:1 x.y.2.123" or similar02:42
Seven_Six_Twohmmm...maybe if I find another donation, then my server can become my firewall/gateway02:42
Pelotawt, try and update02:42
tawtpelo, ?02:42
Shadow420!ubuntu-server02:42
ubotuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support02:42
tawtpelo, in recovery mode, "sudo apt-get update" ?02:42
Pelotawt, that,s what I said but ....02:43
Pelotawt, do you get an error msg when you try to boot normal ?02:43
tawtpelo, no.  just a black screen02:43
Pelotawt, no cursor ? how long did you wait ?02:43
ninjaslimwhat programs are there for managing wireless networks02:44
tawtpelo, nope nothing.  about 4 or 5 minutes02:44
Pelotawt, more then long enough   ok try the rcovery mode02:44
tawtpelo, ok.  do i need to type sudo in recovery?02:44
Pelotawt, yes02:44
tawtpelo, ok.  then what?02:44
lchbazhang: hm unetbootin looks interesting. thanks for the pointer02:45
Pelotawt, recovery is just like a terminal or  a alt +f console02:45
Pelotawt, try that , and see were it leads you02:45
tawtpelo, ... ok02:45
tawtpelo, i'll be back02:45
ninjaslimwhat programs are there for managing wireless networks02:45
Pelotawt, nevermind the threats02:45
tawtwifi-radar02:45
tawt?02:45
Pelotawt, bad joke02:46
tawtpelo, threats?02:46
bazhangninjaslim: the command line is best really02:46
tawtohh lol02:46
Pelotawt, maybe I spelled it wrong,  I'm not an anglophone02:46
ninjaslimbazhang: well what command line tools, i have one ntework configured, but what how do i check for more02:46
* Pelo goes to make some tea02:46
tawtpelo, i shall return02:47
slackd00dis it possible to mount a live.com skydrive?02:47
bazhangninjaslim: just a sec let me get you a link02:47
Seven_Six_Twoyay! my cds were approved 12 hours ago!02:47
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 ninjaslim02:47
ninjaslimthanks02:47
TehLulzeIs anyone here familiar with Jinzora?02:47
GamingXI was setting up LAMP server on Ubuntu Desktop and I got this message "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName"02:48
StarnestommyGamingX: add a ServerName directive to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf02:49
dysingerneed torrent - where is the torrent :)- hardy hardy torrent torrent - can't wait - candy - kid - store02:49
Dr_willisGamingX,  set a real hostname for the box. and put an entry in  the hosts file for it.02:49
Dr_willisor like Starnestommy  says. :)02:49
Dr_willisdysinger,  google for 'ubuntu torent' should find the  homepage with all the ubuntu torrents.02:49
Seven_Six_Twoslackd00d, if it is, it would be with FUSE02:49
dysingerDr_willis - it's not out yet right ?02:49
dysingerI already have the RC02:50
Dr_willisdysinger,  i imagine its NOT out yet then. :)02:50
rlanglydangit, just installed ubuntu 7.10 server and it says my username isn't in the sudoers file.  what's up with that?02:50
Dr_willisdysinger,  if you have the rc installed. you can just update/upgrade in a few days02:50
dysingeryeah I know02:50
Pelorlangly, caplocks ?02:50
rlanglynope, tried both...02:50
dysingerI already have 8 servers on the RC02:50
dysingerJust bugging02:50
GamingXStarnestommy: But I don't have a server.02:50
bazhanghttp://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ dysinger02:50
StarnestommyGamingX: just put somehitng in like ServerName localhost02:51
Seven_Six_Tworlangly, did you only create one account? is it in the sudoers file?02:51
rlanglyi only created the account during installation...  which is what I'm logging in as.02:51
rlanglywhere is the sudo file?02:51
dysingerbazhang - thanks - I already got that one over the weekend02:51
rlanglyso I can check it.02:51
Seven_Six_Twowhy put a server on a RC?02:51
dysingerSiven_six_two - why do people run Debian Unstable ?02:51
Pelorlangly, locate sudoer02:51
Seven_Six_Twoerr...the other way around, sorry.02:52
Pelorlangly, /etc/sudoers02:52
Seven_Six_Twodysinger, someone has to test it I guess.02:52
Seven_Six_Twodysinger, are you testing it?02:52
TehLulzeWhat is a good media server?02:52
rlanglytells me permission denied.02:52
dysingerSeven_Six_Two - they are amazon EC2 images and through away02:52
dysingerthrow away02:52
Pelorlangly, what command ?02:52
rlanglyit only asked to create one account during installation, which I"m using, and given I'm albe to login I assume the password isnt the issue.02:52
dysingerPlus like the man said - apt-get update02:52
dysingerIt's close enough02:53
PeloRandocal, you need to edit it with  vi ,  sudo vi /etc/sudoers02:53
rlanglyfirst I was trying to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file since I didn't estup on startup02:53
Dr_willisbest to edit sudoers with the visudo program02:53
robert__im new to irc channels, but how do i leave one?02:53
Picirobert__: /part02:53
Starnestommyrobert__: /part #channel reason02:54
Pelorlangly, sorry  visudo02:54
robert__ok cool thx02:54
saltedlighti need a script to run some command lines and to cach the output of those commands on files with diferent names... anyone can give me some hints about this?02:54
Seven_Six_Twooh I see. that's trippy. so it's a cluster that gives you a completely controllable virtual cluster?02:54
gogetarobert__ /exit02:54
rlanglyjust keeps saying i'm not in the sudoers file and that the issue is reported.02:54
Pelorobert__, oryou can just close the window02:54
gogetarobert__ /quit02:55
Pelorlangly, I don'T assume you have a gui ?02:55
gogetalol plenty of ways02:55
rlanglythis is nuts .. i've installed ubuntu 7.10 server about 6 times and never had this issue.02:55
rlanglyPelo, nope, shell only02:55
gogetarobert__ ok quir might close a text only02:55
rlanglyheh, cant even reboot02:55
gogetaquit02:55
n1lowhere can I configure the shotcuts of compiz ?02:55
Pelorlangly, ok I don'T know how but maybe add yourself to the admin group02:55
buzzsawi was told once there was a web gui aviable that could be used to configure the firewall/network setting simular to what is installed on some routers02:55
gogetarlangly sudo reboot02:55
Scunizibuzzsaw, firestarter02:56
Pelobuzzsaw, web gui ?02:56
lchrlangly: ctrl+alt+delete in a console window02:56
rlanglygogeta, for some reason during installation, it didn't add my account to the sudoers file...  crazy!02:56
PeloScunizi, I think he means a way of doing it through firefox similar t acessing the router02:56
rlanglyI dont' like the idea of Ubuntu disabling root access like it does...02:56
rlanglyif something like this happens, what's a guy supposed to do, reinstall?02:56
buzzsawwell i am using firestart but... something controlled from a browser02:56
Pelorlangly, sudo -s  should get you root02:56
gogetarlangly your sudo is your password02:56
lchrlangly: try the recovery entry from the grub menu and add yourself to the suoers or add a password for root02:57
Pelogogeta, he means that ubuntu does not have a root account,  it uses sudo instead ,02:57
Pelo!sudo02:57
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.02:57
rlanglylch, doing that now actually :)02:57
gogetaoh then sudo -s02:57
buzzsawit does have a root but is assigned a random password : its better to use sudo if you dont know what your doing :-)02:57
Starnestommybuzzsaw: it isn't assinged a password, not even a random one02:58
lchbuzzsaw: i hope its not random but disabled ;-)02:58
tawtpelo, it says "You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems", but when i run sudo apt-get update, i still have these problems02:58
rlanglyyup, i wasn't in the suders ... crazy!02:58
tawtpelo, it just repeats the message02:58
Pelotawt, does it identify the problem ?02:58
buzzsawah then i was mislead bu the info i read then :-)02:59
Pelotawt, I'm assuming you're in the recovery mode ?02:59
tawtpelo, "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'security.ubuntu.com"02:59
tawtpelo, yes.  i'm using two computer right now.  i'm chatting on a friends right now03:00
Pelotawt, the server might be busy , getting ready for the release03:00
tawtpelo, ... so...03:00
Pelotawt, ok  using nano ,  try and comment that repos out of the /etc/apt/sources.list file03:00
lchtawt: other URLs work? or do you have a DNS setup problem on that machine?03:01
Pelotawt, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:01
* JohninLex is away: Away03:01
Flannel!away > JohninLex03:01
tranHa ha03:01
Peloich right now he' having problem booting gui , he gets a black screen after the grub menu  and won't boot03:01
Pelo!tran I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel03:01
ubuntuim running live cd i used it once before and it ran great now it is going real slow and acts like it is hanging why?03:01
chrisf826hmm03:01
AutoMatriXGoood morning folks03:02
tawtpelo, ok, something happened...  what should i be doing03:02
ubuntuthe live cd freezes at 50 % partition set up. how do i fix this?03:02
thinkingfrogI'm stoked, I got the nvidia driver working with Envy03:02
Pelotawt, what do you mean , something happened ?03:02
thinkingfrogI did it manually03:02
lchubuntu: deffect CD?03:02
Pelotawt, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade03:03
tawtpelo, it looks like it's listing the file, and at the bottom it has "read 72 lines, get help, write out, read file, prev page ...03:03
Pici!hardy03:03
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!03:03
Pelotawt, where is it sahying that ?  in nano ?03:03
tawtpelo, yes03:03
lchubuntu: i think there is an option to test the cd when booting it, not sure now03:03
AutoMatriXwhat about Hardy, will we have the same troublles since gutsy to have full utility to use wifi RT73 cards ?03:03
ubuntulch: its a cd i had mailed from the comp03:03
Pelotawt,  the bottom 3 lines in nano are the command you can use03:03
tawtpelo, so what do i want to do now that i'm here03:04
Pelotawt, find the line for the secutiry repo and comment it out   put # at the beginning , then exit save and  try updating again03:04
Pelotawt,  I'm starting to want to recommend a clean install03:05
tawtpelo, lol  same here03:05
jtbandesHi, is there any way I could conceivably download a torrent for the full HH release, start it leeching (which would do nothing), and have it automatically actually start downloading when the full version is released?03:06
Cobainis there a guide that will walk me through moving an install that was done inside windows (C:\ubuntu) to its own partition?03:06
ubuntulch: my friend had a prob with the headphones not working how can i avoid this?03:06
tawtpelo, should i wait 2 days until it's officially out, burn a live cd and install over this partition?03:06
lchPelo, tawt: a single line failing to load the package list isnt usualy a big problem. it wil print a warning each time ok, but removing the sercuity server is a bad option IMHO ;-)03:06
Pelotawt, you got your /home folder on a seperate partiton right ?03:06
Pelotawt, do you have a working os in the mean time ?03:06
PiciHardy Questions Belong in #ubuntu+1 not in #ubuntu03:06
tawtpelo, no but i've already made a back up on my flash drive03:06
jtbandesPici: topic says those are Beta/RC questions, mine isn't a Beta/RC question.03:07
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Shadow420Cobain I don't think there is a way to do that03:07
Peloich we're just grasping at straws here  a reinstall of the kernel pacakge caused tawt to be unable to boot the computer03:07
Cobainat all?03:07
tawtpelo, yes i have xp03:07
Picijtbandes: It means all Hardy Questions03:07
jtbandesPici: okay03:07
Cobaini mounted and cp'd everything over to the new partition but there isnt anything inside /boot on that partition03:07
jtbandesCobain: I don't see why you couldn't just create a new partition, then move all the files over03:07
jtbandesOh.03:08
Pelotawt, ouch,  well if you can manage withough it , waiting two days is not that bg a deal03:08
lchubuntu: sorry can't help you there. you may need to thescibe the problem in some more detail and if you were able to hear something with other headphones or audio outputs. but i'm leaving now03:08
tawtpelo, i know.  i first switch to gutsy about 20 days ago, and have been on windows about 30 minutes in those 3 weeks03:09
tawtpelo, i'll try to survive  lol03:09
lch30 minutes of pain? ;-)03:09
woodwizzleHow can I unsubscribe from bugs in launchpad?03:09
Pelotawt, ;-)03:09
Shadow420Cobain because certain files have to exist in a linux partition so the only thing I can think of is backup all of your packages and make a actual linux install03:09
Piciwoodwizzle: Click the little unsubscribe button on the left when you are logged in and looking at the bug03:09
Cobainjtbandes: any ideas?03:09
Shadow420!launchpad03:09
ubotuLaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/03:09
tawtpelo, ok, so how do i get out of nano?03:10
jtbandesCobain: I don't have much experience with ubuntu03:10
Pelotawt, I tried ubuntu because I wanted to familiarise myself with linux to pad my CV , took me 5 days to boot windows back and that was just to get my email info03:10
Pelotawt, ctrl x ,   n to not save03:10
lchCobain: in some setups, /boot is on a separate partition and just mounted there. depends on how the system you want to copy was set up..03:10
woodwizzlePici Ah OK, but how can I unsubscribe from all of 'em that I'm subscribed to? or at least see a complete list?03:10
Piciwoodwizzle: Probably on your user page under bugs, #launchpad for further questions :)03:11
LainIwakuraIs there any way to save iwconfig essid <network name> so that I don't have to set it everytime I log in? Thanks.03:11
woodwizzlePici, oh ok, sorry I musta spelled launchpad wrong in the channel search and didn't find a channel03:11
tawtpelo, thank's man for all of your help.  you're really ubuntu-wise.  i'll do a clean install in two days03:11
* Pelo wonders if brassero supports multisession dvd , gnomebaker did not03:11
Piciwoodwizzle: no need to apologize03:12
Pelotawt, you canstill have fun playing arond and trhing to fix it  try asking the ppl in #ubuntu+103:12
LainIwakuraWhat is #ubuntu+1?03:12
tawtpelo, ppl in #ubuntu+1 never respond03:12
amirman84i have a question you guys may be able to answer03:12
PeloLainIwakura, support chanel for the next release of ubuntu03:12
LainIwakuraok03:12
jtbandestawt: uh, have you tried? At all?03:12
Pelotawt, you need patience03:12
LainIwakuraIs there any way to save iwconfig essid <network name> so that I don't have to set it everytime I log in? Thanks.03:13
tawtpelo, jtbandes  lol03:13
jtbandestawt, I just got a response in less than a minute03:13
Picitawt: Hardy questions are offtopic for this channel, please be patient and ask in +103:13
Pelojtbandes, depends on the question03:13
amirman84why is ubuntu so incredible?03:13
rama_suAnyone know a good ubuntu program to easily convert .mov to .flv?03:13
jtbandesPelo, true, I was just pointing out that people are active03:13
tawtamirman84, it's free, for the people, and by the people03:14
Peloamirman84, ubuntu is pretty run of the mill,   the run of linux distros,  it's just that you are comming from windows03:14
tawtlol03:14
Pelorama_su, go to the forum and do a search for   convertit , one word   www.ubuntuforums.org03:15
amirman84i've used a few distors but ubuntu has incredible forums and is stable as FAWK03:15
amirman84distros03:15
Peloamirman84, I was taking a jab at windows03:15
tawti'm new from windows03:15
Peloamirman84,  wait until you've seen hardy03:15
rama_suPelo: thanks03:15
tawt(but not for the next 2 days  :(03:15
thinkingfrogdoes anyone else use pandora.com?03:15
lchLainIwakura: i dont have wireless but i think applications like "network manager" (some package name like that) could take care of that (unless you only boot to the console, or you need network during booting)03:16
amirman84i'm using hardy03:16
* Pelo noticed that the system req for hardy have gone up from 256 meg of ram go 36* 03:16
LainIwakuraI'm using Windows now because I cannot type traditional Chinese in Ubuntu. I have sought help for two weeks on the forum, but no one replies to my thread. Could someone please help me? If I can type traditional Chinese in Ubuntu, I would not use Windows again. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=720206&highlight=traditional+chinese03:16
* Pelo is looking into ubuntulite for his aunt's computer 03:16
thinkingfroglainIwakura:  I'll try it03:17
urthmoverchinese keyboard layout is for suckers anyways03:17
Daisuke_IdoPelo, what's she got?03:17
AutoMatriXPelo, change aunt :)03:17
Piciurthmover: Be nice03:17
Daisuke_Idospecs, that is03:17
LainIwakuraIch: Hm well I have to use the CLI, as it is a solution to a problem I have been having (someone suggested it on the forums)03:17
thinkingfrogurthmover:  that's not cool03:17
urthmoversorry I'm kinda bored here :-)03:17
PeloDaisuke_Ido, compaq presasrio , kindof old,   700mhz 64m ram03:17
urthmoverjust playin jus playin03:17
LainIwakuraurthmover: Please be respectful to other users.03:17
thinkingfrogurthmover: do you use pandora.com?03:17
urthmovernot in a long long time03:17
Daisuke_IdoPelo, yeah, lite or perhaps puppylinux03:18
Daisuke_Idoyay pandora :)03:18
thinkingfrogoops03:18
urthmoverneat idea though03:18
ToddEDMhey guys, i just went to ubuntu.com , and i noticed there is 2 days left till hardy, the release candidate that is available for download.. is it going to be what is actually released?03:18
urthmoverI've been relearning nethack03:18
thinkingfrogLainIwakura: Did you use adminsitration language support?03:18
amirman84i wanted to love linux for so long because of what it stands for but i just couldn't make the switch because my graphics card and my wireless card weren't supported, i took weeks of my time to try to get this things to work through endless console work but i just figured out 2 days ago that all i had to do the whole time was enable backports, proposed, and third party software sources, and it was so easy to get it working03:18
LainIwakurathinkingfrog: Yes.03:18
thinkingfrogpandora is god awful slow for me03:18
PeloDaisuke_Ido, I'd reather have her in a *buntu derivative, I'm more use to it ,but I haven't realy been able to find screenshots of the ubulite gui , she's not computer savy03:18
PiciToddEDM: No, its a release candidate, and there have been updates since.  Further questions in #ubuntu+1 please03:18
Pici!offtopic03:19
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!03:19
lchLainIwakura: there are tools to detect wireless networks and conencto to your prefered network but ok.. if you want to automate thinks at boot up. you can place shell scripts in /etc/rc2.d etc. those will be run on boot (there may be better ways now with the new loader but i dont know them)03:19
ToddEDMPici: thanks for the answer.. .btw i did ask there ... it was like talking to the air03:19
gogetaDaisuke_Ido xubuntu can run on 64mb03:19
amirman84whats the difference between ubuntulite and xubuntu?03:19
ToddEDMand i didnt want to repeat03:19
LainIwakuralch: Okay, thank you for your help.03:19
tawtpelo, what chat app do you use?03:19
thinkingfrogyou can also add start up items in prefs -> sessions03:19
Daisuke_Idogogeta, i've run xubuntu on a 700mb machine with 128mb and it was painful03:19
fnaskis there a program that can tell me how rubust my system are?03:20
Daisuke_Idoi cannot in good conscience recommend it for a 64mb system03:20
Pelotawt, xchat  , straight , not xchat-gnome03:20
gogetaDaisuke_Ido well thers 3 untralight distros03:20
thinkingfrogI need to figure out how to tweak Gutsy to be faster03:20
trendhow can I tell how much ram a process is taking? not % of ram.. but actual #03:20
thinkingfrogsave power with more efficient configuration03:20
towlie2is anything going to change between now and thursday in 8.0403:20
gogetaDaisuke_Ido at least well known ones03:20
tawtpelo, ok, i'm tired of pigeon and chatzilla03:20
Daisuke_Idogogeta, fluxbuntu...  but if she's not computer savvy, it might not be a good idea03:20
thinkingfrogLainIwakura: Where do you need to type in Chinese?03:20
Pelotawt, those aren't real chat clients03:20
Picitowlie2: Perhaps, please direct Hardy questions to #ubuntu+103:20
LainIwakurathinkingfrog: Everywhere. Firefox, pidgin, word processor, terminal, etc.03:21
tawtpelo, ohh03:21
thinkingfroghmmm03:21
amirman84puppy linux is an incredibly lite linux distro that has a very windows user friendly GUI (it's XFCE) it works great but i've had problems getting it installed on a hard drive03:21
gogetapuppy, dsl, deli03:21
thinkingfroglet me see if I can get that set up on my system03:21
lchthinkingfrog: wait for hardy before doing tweaks ;-) and check out "powertop"03:21
LainIwakurathinkingfrog: Thank you.03:21
PeloDaisuke_Ido, I would have liked a windows manager that was organised like gnome,  xfce is too complicated , I can'T even find my way aorund in it03:21
ToddEDMtowlie2:  you cant wait either ,eh?03:21
gogetaDaisuke_Ido if i rember dsl is debain based03:21
IamReckIs anyone aware of a program that will convert an ISO image to what it would be if it were on a CD, or just a video file?03:22
gogetaamirman84 lol cant use the unviersal puppy installer :P03:22
gogetaIamReck you can mount the iso and uppl the file03:23
gogetaIamReck pull03:23
lchIamReck: open the iso file with the archive manager or loop mount it to get access to the files within the image03:23
PeloIamReck, just use fileroller to extract it , and play the .vob files from it03:23
PiciPlease take non Ubuntu support questions out of #ubuntu, perhaps into #ubuntu-offtopic or the distribution channel of your choice.03:23
PeloIamReck, won't work with kvcd03:23
amirman84gogeta: i'm not a dunce. i used the universal puppy installer, i had endless problems, the guys on the puppy linux forums were confounded03:23
towlie2ToddEDM, hell yes03:23
amirman84i think it's a hard drive issue03:23
SeaPhorIamReck, and look here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#Mount.2FUnmount_.iso_Images_in_oneclick03:24
gogetaamirman84 < dunce hat03:24
Piciamirman84, gogeta: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, please see my message above regading offtopic.03:24
amirman84:( sowwy03:24
buckieHi can anyone help me with a question about forwarding ports ?03:25
Pelobuckie, waht is the queston ?03:25
buckiePelo, I want to forward some ports from my router to my ubuntu server, but im totally out of luck :/03:26
Snic42Hey there, I've been plucking away at an issue all day, wondering if I could run it past someone else to see if I'm just beating my head against a wall for no reason03:26
spaceracoonladyhi there, what is the difference between ter-v16b and ter-v16f  or ter-v16n console fonts?03:26
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Snic42I just made the jump up to Hardy and can't seem to get GLX to work with my notebook. Worked fine on Gutsy. The video card is a 9100 IGP. Did some poking about the web and tried a number of fixes. Has anyone else run accross this?03:27
PiciSnic42: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.03:27
tomtommyubuntu out yet???????????03:27
Pelobuckie,  forwarding a port just means that you tell a router that port **** is opened but only for ip *** *** *** ***,  to do that ,  your computer need a static ip , you can look at  www.portforward.com for instrucons about yoru router model but I have no idea how to set a static ip in server03:27
Snic42Thank you Pici03:28
tomtommy!new releasr?03:28
AlabamaHitHow do i get as a root users in terminal...i dont want to use the sudo command....03:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about new releasr? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:28
tomtommy!new release out yet?03:28
Starnestommytomtommy: April 24th is when 8.04 comes out03:28
tomtommyStarnestommy, ok ty03:28
Light-hi, would anyone be able to enlighten me as to how to configure Apache to allow access to directories outside of its www directory?03:28
tomtommyStarnestommy, tomorrow03:28
buckiePelo, thank you I will get to reading :)03:28
tomtommyStarnestommy, can i update current?  or need new install?03:29
Pelobuckie, ppl in #networking might be of some help03:29
Starnestommytomtommy: you can update via the update manager, I think03:29
tomtommyStarnestommy, u think????????03:29
ravHey guys, i accidently deleted the icons next to my clock on the top bar. Like when your running Pidgin and you minimize it, someone sends you a IM and it starts blinking. How can i get that back?03:29
tomtommyStarnestommy, u noob?03:29
bazhangtomtommy: update-manager -d03:29
Picitomtommy: Please be respectful.03:30
nostradmsxhello03:30
tomtommybazhang, ok ty03:30
Starnestommytomtommy: I meant that I am very sure, but they may have changed things.03:30
amirman84hey buckie: if you are using DHCP and always end up with the same IP it's not necessary to switch to a static IP03:30
Light-starnestommy: Everytime I tried doing a dist-upgrade via the update manager, everything broke03:30
tomtommyPici, define respect :)03:30
Pici!guidelines | tomtommy03:30
ubotutomtommy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:30
amirman84buckie: this is usually the case if you are the only person who logs into your wireless access point03:30
bazhangtomtommy: best apologize03:30
nostradmsx!guidelines03:30
tomtommy!guidelines Pici03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guidelines pici - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:30
nostradmsx!help03:30
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:30
Picitomtommy: See ubotu's message above03:30
Light-!guidelines apache03:30
buckieamirman84, its not wireless :)03:31
tomtommy!guidelines | Pici03:31
ubotuPici: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:31
LainIwakuratomtommy: Please don't spam the bot.03:31
tomtommyLainIwakura,  u op?03:31
buckieamirman84, the router ALWAYS have the same ip but i dont think its static ?03:31
bazhangtomtommy: quit it03:31
Picitomtommy: It doesnt matter, please stop it with the bot.03:31
Jack_Sparrowtomtommy, He isnt but I am03:31
tomtommyJack_Sparrow, OK :)03:31
style23Does anyone use Irssi03:31
Light-would anyone be able to enlighten me as to how to configure Apache to allow access to directories outside of its www directory?03:32
amirman84buckie: ok, well you should probably just switch to a static IP anyway then, i just know with a laptop, it's a pain to switch to a static IP because you will run into problems when trying to access wireless access points when you're out of the house03:32
* tomtommy hides in the corner03:32
urthmoverI love irssi03:32
urthmoverwish it was easy to put on osx03:32
buckieamirman84, I can imagen that03:32
bazhang!coc > tomtommy03:32
style23urthmover My first time trying it out03:32
Who__urthmover: ubuntu in virtualbox?03:32
Piciurthmover: If you don't have a question or are not providing support here, you can just chat in #ubntu-offtopic03:32
amirman84buckie, the router always has the same IP but your computer may be assigned a different IP if there are other computers that access it03:32
buckieamirman84, I tried it, but then it start talking about gateway, and what about isp and login and all kinds of wierd stuff XD03:32
lchLight-: that is off topic, the wrong channel.. you'll need to look at the <Directory> directive03:33
buckieamirman84, yea ofc I mean the global ip is always the same03:33
urthmoverubuntu triple boot or in fusion(workstation for mac)03:33
urthmover<-- new PC -> mac convert03:33
Light-lch: ohk, I have no idea what that means. What channel would be more appropriate?03:33
nostradmsxhello everyone03:33
urthmoverseems fine since I can run win32 stuff with fusion/unity03:33
LainIwakuraLight-: Try #apache03:33
Light-ok thanks03:34
urthmoverubuntu runs great as a vm  or native install03:34
amirman84buckie: check out this page: http://portforward.com/routers.htm , find your router on there and it should get you on the right path03:34
kunkunHello everyone, does anyone want to help me with an issue I have? Everyone says it's a hardware issue, but I've checked my hardware. "CPU 1: Machine Check Exception Kernel Panic - Not Syncing. I have two SATA Drives, and XP already installed.03:34
urthmoverI loved irssi cause it was a terminal app ... runs fast simple03:34
lchLight-: apache questions? in #apache i guess :-)03:34
buckieamirman84, nice ty :)03:34
urthmovereasy to automate for servers/channels03:34
Jack_Sparrowkunkun, WHat release of ubuntu are you using?03:35
kunkunI downloaded the release candidate of the newest ubuntu, 8.04.03:36
justin___does anyone know of any good command line media players?03:36
Jack_Sparrowkunkun, 32 or 64 bit?  and fyi.. That channel is #Ubuntu+103:36
Light-kunkun: the final version gets released tomorrow, wouldnt it have been better to wait for that?03:36
gogetajustin___ mplayer03:36
lchjustin___: audio or video? audio: mpd and vlc worked for me03:37
n-iCehello does anyonw knows any03:37
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gogetajustin___ mplayer can do video if you have the framebuffer on03:37
justin_...03:37
n-iCehello does anyone knows a gnome battery charger? for desktop ?03:37
justin_Thats highlighting me XD03:37
kunkunOh, sorry. I am using the 64 bit architecture.03:37
lchgogeta: tell him about aalib and asci art output too ;-)03:38
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gogeta:)03:38
kunkunI have an AMD64 Bit X2 6400+ Processor, by the way.03:38
gogetaor svgajob03:38
gogetalib03:38
Jack_Sparrowkunkun, np..  We generally try to have new users start out on 32 bit as there are a few extra things to learn and do with 64 bit03:38
amirman84jack_sparrow: what kind of stuff?03:39
matt444i need help.  i have 136gb of unallocated space that i want to add to my ubuntu partition.  however gparted will not allow me to resize the partition to make it bigger, only smaller.03:39
kunkunOk, but would even downgrading to a 32bit architecture even fix the problem?03:39
lchamirman84: like the flash plugin that is only available for 32 bit... etc03:39
Jack_Sparrowamirman84, there is a factoid about it..  mostly flash and drivers....03:39
Lowkey420can anyone help me configure my download manager to recognize my rapidshare account so that I can download multiple files?03:39
Jack_Sparrowkunkun, quite possibly03:40
SeaPhorkunkun, it did for me03:40
fnaskwhen i mount a dir from the server with sshfs .. i cant read the local map.. ls -l gives me d?????????  whatś wrong?03:40
kunkunOk, I'll attempt it, brb 10minsish.03:40
gogetaFaintofhearts if you add video=vesa 800x600 vga=0x312 that turns on your framebuffer in ther kernel03:40
Jack_Sparrowkunkun, veryu little difference in performance03:40
Lowkey420can anyone help me configure my download manager to recognize my rapidshare account so that I can download multiple files? =/03:40
gogetajustin_ to grub03:40
Faintofhearts...03:40
psyminAlrighty, my buddy is trying to set up his intel 3945 wireless .. does ipw3945 exist for ubuntu?03:41
gogeta Faintofhearts command line mplayer with video support :)03:41
Lowkey420can anyone help me configure my download manager to recognize my rapidshare account so that I can download multiple files?03:42
Jack_SparrowLowkey420, please dont repeat quite as often03:42
gogetaLowkey420  buy a account03:42
Lowkey420I have an account.03:42
Lowkey420I have it set to auto download, too.03:42
Lowkey420But when I download a file in a download manager,03:42
Lowkey420It downloads an htm file.03:43
matt444i need help.  i have 136gb of unallocated space that i want to add to my ubuntu partition.  however gparted will not allow me to resize the partition to make it bigger, only smaller.03:43
orion1Hey guys i got a quick question. I have some stuff in my trash but it wont let me delete it. Also my trash is not located in ~/.Trash. Any ideas?03:43
* ejosvp ...03:43
Jack_Sparroworion1, THings deleted as root user end up in a different trash can03:44
matt444orion1:  probably root owned files03:44
Scorp_hi03:44
matt444orion1  /root/.Trash03:44
aeroncajust installed the RC over Opensuse (bored waiting for Hardy, thought I would take a look see at Suse)....I'm trying to identify my monitor so I can achieve a higher refresh rate at the resolution I wish to run....for the life of me, I cannot find where to do that03:44
mwansaHey i cannot get direct rendering to work. /var/log/X.x0rg assumes that it cannot initialise DRI03:44
Jack_Sparrowmatt444, fyi you cant resize a mounted drive.. you would need to run off livecd03:44
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matt444Jack_Sparrow:  i am on a live cd, the partition is not mounted.03:44
Jack_Sparrowmatt444, just checking03:45
Scorp_I'm having problems with wubi, after I boot up it shows a black screen with intaramfs03:45
n-iCecan anyone help me wity my webcam??03:45
Jack_Sparrowmwansa, /join #Compiz  they are good with video03:45
orion1matt444: i dont have a .Trash folder in ~ nor /root?03:45
mwansaJack_Sparrow, Thanks03:45
Jack_Sparroworion1, . means hidden.. have you enabled show hidden folders and files03:46
orion1matt444: http://pastebin.ca/99407403:46
Lowkey420=[03:46
orion1jack_sparrow: i know i did ls -al and it doesnt show i pasted the output if you want to see03:46
n-iCehow can I install the icon try in the top bar???03:47
Scorp_can anyone help me with a wubi install for hardy?03:47
Jack_Sparroworion1, odd you dont see it...03:47
FlannelScorp_: #ubuntu+1 for Hardy support03:47
Jack_SparrowScorp_, HArdy is #Ubuntu+1 for another day03:47
Pir8What's the quickest way to upgrade to ff3beta5 in gutsy ?03:47
Scorp_Flannel: thanks03:47
iceswordScrounch, everyone is willing03:47
iceswordScorp_,03:47
doug2266778822how do i mount my ntfs drive ? and have read/write privs03:47
AlabamaHitwhat is command to get root permission in terminal?03:47
orion1Jack_Sparrow: maybe i should be in #ubuntu+1 because im running 8.0403:47
matt444orion1:  i think there is special permission in the root folder where the user can't even see the files.  you'll have to do sudo -i  to log in as root.  then navigate to the folder.03:47
Scorp_icesword: yes?03:48
aeroncacan someone tell me where to go to identify my monitor in ubuntu so I can set a higher refresh rate?03:48
Jack_Sparroworion1, agreed.... all one big family soon, but better answers in there for now03:48
iceswordScorp_, i say everyone is willing,03:48
doug2266778822how do i mount my ntfs drive ? and have read/write privs?03:48
Scorp_icesword: oh :)03:48
will_The Ubuntu community has always been so helpful so i thought I´d start here....  If anyone cares to share,  who makes the most of multithreading Linux BSD ect... and which distro03:48
Jack_Sparrowaeronca, you can set your monitor in your xorg.conf.. (Gutsy not Hardy) right?03:48
aeroncaHardy RC03:49
orion1matt444: that doesnt change anything for me i tried it. It doesnt make much sense.. Are either of you guys running 8.04?03:49
Jack_Sparrowaeronca, +103:49
tonyyarusso#ubuntu+1 for Hardy questions please.03:49
ToddEDManyone know how i can backup my wifes contact list, and emails .. were using Evolution03:49
tonyyarussoPir8: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:49
Jack_SparrowToddEDM, you should be able to export it..  I dont use evo..  but I used to..03:50
iceswordbu lai shi bu lai, yi lai lai hao duo op03:50
doug2266778822can anyone help me?03:50
ToddEDMJack_Sparrow:  what do you use now?03:50
Jack_Sparrowicesword, Not nice03:50
Lowkey420Hey can anyone help me configure my download manager to work with my rapid share premium account to download multiple files?03:50
Pir8tonyyarusso,  thank you mate.03:50
Jack_SparrowToddEDM, thunderbird03:50
ToddEDMok03:50
alioshahello03:51
alioshaanyone use rlplot?03:51
doug2266778822how do i mount my ntfs drive ? and have read/write privs?03:51
will_anyone03:51
iceswordJack_Sparrow, i mean, you op seem have a agreement, coz you come at the same time....03:51
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, create a mount point and mount the partition to that pont03:51
Jack_Sparrowicesword, teamwork03:52
iceswordhmm03:52
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: how do i make the mount point? and find what one i have if its sda or sde?03:52
orion1Jack_Sparrow: im just letting you guys know that its now located in ~/.local/share/Trash/03:52
Jack_Sparroworion1, IN HArdy...03:52
amenadodoug2266778822-> mount is a directory03:53
orion1yup~~~03:53
aeroncasorry for posting in the wrong arena.....have a good night all03:53
amenadodoug2266778822-> rather mountpoint is a directory03:53
orion1Thanks for your help guys.03:54
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, mkdir /media/mydrive                mount /dev/sda1 /media/mydrive        as example.. sudo fdisk -l to find your partition info03:54
doug2266778822amenado:  or Jack_Sparrow can one you tell me how to find out if i have sda or sde?03:54
amenadodoug2266778822-> sudo fdisk -l03:54
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, last letter there is an L03:54
doug2266778822jack_ it didnt work what u said and thnks amenado03:55
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: * it didnt work03:55
amenadodoug2266778822-> what did not work?03:55
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, what part didnt work.. and did you use sudo as needed?03:55
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: yes and it is showing the /dev/sda103:55
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, vreate a mount fpoint.. directory03:56
psyminanyone have ipw3945 packages or Heron?03:56
Frederickfolks how do I getthe lastes java plugin on firefox on ubuntu I simple dont seem to have it :/03:56
vhaarrHey, for the last few days I've had a curious problem where suddenly after some time I am no longer able to 'sudo'. I just get a message saying "sudo: unable to resolve host <host>", anyone know how to fix this?03:57
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: done it now?03:57
amenadovhaarr-> paste your /etc/hostname and  /etc/resolv.conf03:57
yowshi!pcsx03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcsx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:57
chris062689Hello.03:57
yowshi!info pcsx03:57
ubotupcsx (source: pcsx): Sony PlayStation emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.699df-rc3-1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 40 kB03:57
Cann0nhow do i get a gigaware webcam to work?03:57
chris062689yowshi: What do you need help with?03:57
vhaarramenado: It works when I reboot, then after 10 hours or so it stops working.03:57
chris062689yowshi: I prefer psx over psxe03:58
yowshichris062689: well pcsx even with a bios image wont run03:58
chris062689yowshi: have you tried psx?03:58
amenadovhaarr-> paste your /etc/hostname and  /etc/resolv.conf  once more..03:58
yowshichris062689: no is it in the repo?03:58
Cann0ni have gspca module running, but it seems not to want to respond in camorama03:58
chris062689yowshi: You can download psx... hold on let me grab the link03:58
vhaarramenado: http://pastey.net/8627803:58
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: how do i mount the sda1 file now?03:59
Scorp_the people in Ubuntu-1 couldn't help me03:59
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, what did you create for a mount point03:59
tehjessei need some help with my hard drive loading if someone could help me out i'd be so siked03:59
Scorp_plus the problem happens for the 7.04 version of wubi as well03:59
Scorp_so it's not the OS03:59
Scorp_but a wubi problem03:59
Cann0nanyone know how get a gigaware webcam running in ubuntu?03:59
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: what u told me the mkdir / sda1/mydrive03:59
tehjesseanyone out there know how to do this?04:00
Pelo!webcam | Cann0n have y ou looked at this ?04:00
ubotuCann0n have y ou looked at this ?: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:00
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822,   mount /dev/sda1 /media/mydrive    use sudo when needed...04:00
amenadovhaarr-> at the time you can not sudo, are you able to resolve another host like www.yahoo.com?04:00
gyaresu_tehjesse: Can you explain better what you mean by hard drive loading04:00
vhaarramenado: PING www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net (87.248.113.14) 56(84) bytes of data.04:00
tehjessei have 3 hard drives04:00
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow:  it failed said no such entry04:00
tehjesseand one is loaded with all my music and shit04:00
tehjessebut it's just not recognizing the drive04:01
amenadovhaarr-> am asking during the time you can not sudo, can you resolve?04:01
tehjessei had a guy do it with me last night but it unmounted again today04:01
vhaarramenado: yes, I can, that was the first line of output from 'ping www.yahoo.com'04:01
Pelo!enter | tehjesse04:01
samalexdangit .. my wife's HD crashed and I have no backup... blah!  prompted me to setup a linux server again for backups, which is what I'm on now.04:01
ubotutehjesse: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:01
samalexanyone know what HD recovery costs?04:01
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow:  nvm i left the e out04:01
tehjesse i i guess i just have to have it permently mounted04:01
amenadovhaarr-> i meant to ask what's the content of your /etc/hosts also04:02
Frederickfolks how do I getthe lastes java plugin on firefox on ubuntu I simple dont seem to have it :/04:02
Pelotehjesse, please state you rpoblem in one line, don'T use the enterkey for punctuation it makes it hard to keep up04:02
gyaresu_tehjesse: you can find the drive info by 'sudo fdisk -l'04:02
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: do you know anything about partitioning?04:02
Pelotehjesse, what file system is it ?04:02
gyaresu_tehjesse: Which drive is it that you are having  problems with?04:02
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, hard to see that from here...  :)04:02
gogetasamalex more then a new harddrive04:02
vhaarramenado: http://pastey.net/8627804:02
Cann0nPelo, yes, says my cam isn't on there, but i've see forums claiming folks have got it to work under gspca drivers.04:02
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, WHat is your question04:02
samalexgogeta: true, but it's the data I'd like to get back...04:02
doug2266778822thnk u so much Jack_Sparrow04:02
chris062689playstation emulator ==>  http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/04:02
tehjessea 250 western digital and it's worked fine before but it just happened the other day when i installed enlightenment04:02
Jack_Sparrownp04:02
spencerhello, I cant seem to get JACK itself to work anymore, it claims that HW:0 is in use, which means an application is using it. Ive looked for particular processes which might use the sound card but i cant find any, and im not sure what is running to prevent JACK from starting.04:03
yowshichris062689: thanks04:03
PeloCann0n, you need to look for the chipset in te gspca list , not neccesarly the maker,  check the specs ofhe cam online if you have to04:03
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: i am transfering all my files from ntfs to the ext 3 gutsy and i want to delete the ntfs and make it all one drive without deleting my ext3 files i am transfering.04:03
Jack_Sparrowchris062689, also check out mame  or xmame...04:03
alioshaspencer: have you reboot?04:03
SeaPhorsamalex, seagate has recovery, and on their site has a calculater/quote, tells you what it costs before you commit,, if you want ill get the addy?04:03
chris062689Jack_Sparrow; he's looking for playstation emulation, not mame?04:03
gyaresu_tehjesse: Is it just one partition on the drive and what file format is it in (ntfs/ext3 etc.)04:03
spenceryes, the problem has persisted for a week now04:03
tehjesseit'04:04
samalexSeaPhor, sure thing .. but the drive is IBM, does that matter?04:04
Jack_Sparrowchris062689, Agreed..  but many of the playstations roms are available under mame04:04
amenadovhaarr-> try to make that /etc/hosts entry look like  127.0.0.1 localhost.homedomain.com  localhost folk04:04
chris062689Jack_Sparrow; ah didn't know that!04:04
gene2can someone tell me how i can force my speedstep capable cpu to run at full speed?04:04
Cann0none more question, in order to set up my internal sd card reader, (TI) do i need to compile a new kernel? cuz the direction i've found led to that...04:04
tehjesseit's a whole set of folders. i just loaded linux the other day and i put all the info on that drive, unplugged it, and installed linux. shut the computer down and plugged it back in04:04
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, single drive or multiple04:04
Lowkey420Hey can anyone help me configure my download manager to work with my rapid share premium account to download multiple files?04:04
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: single 320gb04:05
markus_was heißt  Ubuntu 8.04 Daily Build04:05
Jack_Sparrowchris062689, I have tons of nintendo 64 games under mame too04:05
vhaarramenado: yes, that should work, you are right - but why does it work for a few hours after rebooting and then stops working just by itself?04:05
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, currently single partition?04:05
PeloCann0n, you might have too,   but get the info from the ubuntuforums instructions for other distro might not owrk or be too old04:05
amenadovhaarr-> i have not look at the code of sudo to tell you04:05
gyaresu_tehjesse: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'04:05
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: ah yea one so far.04:05
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, how full is it?04:05
spencerI cant find any obvious processes that would prevent JACK from access to the sound card04:05
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: when ig et done almost full04:05
spencerIts not clear as to what is using the sound card to begin with04:06
amenadovhaarr-> do it the right way then, put those entries as suggested04:06
ozzloydo i have to be in the group to chgrp some file to a new group?04:06
amenadoozzloy-> nope, you can be root04:06
vhaarramenado: alright, I have to reboot one time first now so I can 'sudo nano /etc/hosts' and then reboot one more time to pick up those changes04:06
ozzloychgrp somegrpimnotin somefileiown04:06
Pelospencer, have you enabled jacksense  in the volume controler preferences ?04:06
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, easiest solution is to buy or borrow another drive....04:06
ozzloyamenado: what if i'm a regular user?04:06
Cann0nPelo, it was all based on ubuntu forums. they are talking about recompiling a new kernel and all that bull. hopefully the new version of ubuntu will have better support with internal readers. it was on the brainstorm04:06
Scorp_I'm guessing you guy's can't help ?04:06
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: brb04:06
Jack_Sparrowk04:06
yowshiwhats the command to ah yes apt-cache search to find what package contains a lib?04:06
spencerNo, what is that? I use KDE04:06
ng0nscorp: what ?04:07
amenadoozzloy-> are you a member of both groups? ie the source and destinations?04:07
tehjesseok i did pastebin but it just listed a list of commands.04:07
PeloCann0n, I couldn't be able to tell you04:07
Scorp_ng0n: my wubi problem04:07
joebloehello04:07
fnaskfnask@fnask:/media$ ls -l  =  d?????????  ? ?     ?        ?    ? slicky.se   And  fnask@fnask:/media$ sudo ls -l  =  drwxr-xr-x  1 fnask fnask  4096 2008-04-22 23:57 slicky.se     whatś wrong?04:07
gyaresu_tehjesse: ?04:07
ng0nscorp: guess not. i don't know what wubi is04:07
amenadoScorp_-> what have you done? what is not working?04:07
spencerIs there a way to implement that feature "Jacksense" in kde?04:08
Scorp_ng0n: lol, it's a way to run ubuntu without partitioning04:08
Jack_SparrowScorp_, Wubi faq or forums would be your best bet.04:08
gyaresu_tehjesse: You know how to open a terminal? If so then run the command 'sudo fdisk -l'04:08
tehjessei did04:08
ozzloyamenado: let's say no?04:08
ng0nscorp:  on NTFS drives ?04:08
Scorp_amenado: right after install when I boot I get a black screen with intraframs04:08
joebloewhen i try to browse my removable hard drive using nautilus it hangs up when i try to go into a particular folder.  I can use a program and open files there though?04:08
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Scorp_ng0n: yes04:08
joebloehelp?04:08
samalexcan anyone suggest a good command line newsgroup reader?04:08
amenadoozzloy lets say no you cant then04:08
ozzloyamenado: let's say i'm a member of the source but not destination group04:08
Scorp_Jack_Sparrow: ok :)04:08
ng0nscorp: nope. haven't done that.04:08
tehjessea ton of terminals keep popping up04:09
amenadoozzloy lets say no you cant then04:09
Jack_Sparrowng0n, yes, simulates a partition in a file on a windows drive...  can also be dangersous even as noted on the wubi faq sheet04:09
Frederickfolks whereis the javaplugin package for ubuntu 64?04:09
SeaPhorsamalex, check here, click on SEAGATE, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=22&Itemid=2604:09
ozzloyamenado: icic04:09
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: im back04:09
Jack_Sparrowk04:09
izinucsng0n, it's kinda like a VM on windows for ubuntu.. it installs ubuntu in a file and lets it run like any other program.. it's a hardy addition04:09
Pelojoebloe, run fsck on it ,  unless it's ntfs , then find a windows machine to run a scandisk04:09
gyaresu_tehjesse: You just need one :) close the rest04:09
ozzloyamenado: what if i'm a member of both groups?04:09
ng0ni c04:09
Scorp_amenado: do you know how to fix my problem?04:09
gene2can someone tell me how i can force my speedstep capable cpu to run at full speed? I have powernowd running but i can't seem to force it use max cpu speed and my even when compiling something intensive this thing still doesn't go up04:09
ng0ntnx.04:09
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: why cant i just say load live cd and extend the ext3 that i am on now? will it cause me to lose the data i am transfering from ntfs to the ext#?04:09
amenadoScorp_-> isnt it required to have windows running before running a wubi (like an emulator) ?04:09
spencerWould Jacksense shutdown the processes using the soundcard so i can access JACK?04:09
tehjessei know, alright, the drive im looking for, is coming up in the list of drives04:09
Scorp_amenado: no04:10
amenadoozzloy-> i say you try and see the effects,04:10
yowshichris062689: what package contains  libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.004:10
phuzionOk, so uTorrent froze a while ago, so I killed it, and restarted it, but half of the icon is still up by my clock.  How do I get that to refresh up there?04:10
ng0nre-boot.04:10
amenadoScorp_-> are you sure? my read on it says, it has to be running windows to install wubi  yesh?04:10
Pelogene2,  you just need to chagne the governor, there is a pannel app you can use to do it quickly, check in the pannel under add to pannel04:10
ng0nutorrent working well here.04:10
llin-ubuntuhow do I rename my partitions?04:10
izinucsamenado, I think that wubi does something to the boot sequence.. so this might be a video (xorg) issue.04:10
Pelong0n, utorrent works very well on wine,  it's gotten much better in the last year04:11
gyaresu_tehjesse: What file format is the partition you are trying to mount?04:11
xTheGoat121x*dances*04:11
tehjessewhat do you mean?04:11
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, I may be missing something but you would need an empty ext3 equal or greater than your current ntfs and I thought you said the ntfs was almost full04:11
ozzloyamenado: yeah, i was just thinking that04:11
amenadoizinucs-> does it not require windows to be running first before you can execute that wubi.exe ?04:11
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, how big is the current ntfs?04:11
gyaresu_tehjesse: Can you just post the output of the drive to http://pastebin.com04:11
Pelollin-ubuntu, unmout them , rename the mount point and remount them04:11
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doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: no the ext3 i am on is almost full when i am done04:11
Scorp_amenado: it works like you installed it normally, it doesn't run in a program on windows, you select it from a menu when you boot04:11
llin-ubuntuThanks Pelo, i'll try that04:12
Pelollin-ubuntu, don'T forget t edit fstab04:12
amenadoozzloy-> then try, this is how we find out the effects..not a big loss if it does not work, but huge gain in knowledge04:12
kunkunThanks jack, it works now =D04:12
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: it is 320-44gb so 276 give or take.04:12
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, I would create an extra ext3 and use it as data only.04:12
izinucsamenado, I'm still a little fuzzy on it.. but I read something today that mentioned wubi changing the mbr.. but that wouldn't make sense if it's run inside of windows.. weird.04:12
amenadoScorp_-> oh, thats after you have the wubi running and then you select to install permanently..right?04:12
tehjessethe output being?04:12
Scorp_amenado: not sure what you mean04:12
ng0ndual boot.04:12
llin-ubuntuOk Pelo, thanks04:12
amenadoizinucs-> that may be after one decides to permanently install it04:13
tehjesseit's got a list of the amount of bites 255 heads, 63 sectors/track 30401 cylanders and a disk identifier04:13
izinucsamenado, right..04:13
doug2266778822Jack_Sparrow: can we meet in a less crowded room please? im having trouble in here trying to find what u say to me.04:13
spencerhello, I cant seem to get JACK itself to work anymore, it claims that HW:0 is in use, which means an application is using it. Ive looked for particular processes which might use the sound card but i cant find any, and im not sure what is running to prevent JACK from starting.04:13
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, /join #Jack_Sparrow04:13
llin-ubuntuDo I need to edit the fstab on every distro I have? or does the rename only happen on the distro I use to change the name with?04:13
amenadoScorp_-> my take is wubi is to try out while you are in windows..then if you decide to permanently install, you can -- click on the install icon?04:13
gyaresu_tehjesse: Can you post all the outpu for that drive to pastebin please?04:13
doug2266778822join #Jack_sparrow04:13
Scorp_amenado: No you don't try it out04:13
CheticWhen I try to start firefox, nothing happens. If I try in a terminal it says "Illegal instruction" Heeelp!04:13
llin-ubuntu(I have 6 distros of linux installed on my computer)04:13
Jack_Sparrowdoug2266778822, slash04:14
CheticI can't even google for an answer04:14
tehjessejust paste the all of the text?04:14
ozzloyamenado: roger04:14
amenadoScorp_-> are you sure? that is the purpose for having it as wubi.exe  ..please read the info on that again04:14
Pelollin-ubuntu, it's a mountpoint thing, if you want the names to chagne in all distros , then yes04:14
gyaresu_tehjesse: Yep at pastebin.com and then post the link here.04:14
ng0nllin-ubuntu.  don't worry. things will pick up for you.04:14
Scorp_amenado: the wubi installer just installs ubuntu then lets you reboot and select it from a menu04:15
llin-ubuntuOk, it just sounds like alot of work thats all...changing 6 diff fstabs I don't know if I really want to rename them anymore04:15
tehjessehttp://pastebin.com/m31f41ee504:15
Pelollin-ubuntu, why do you have 6 distros ?04:15
llin-ubuntuI have more than 6 but only 6 partitions :P04:15
llin-ubuntuI like downloading linux ISO's04:15
Pelollin-ubuntu, why ?04:15
ng0nhahah04:15
kunkunThe correct question is, why would you have less than 8 distros?04:15
Pelosighs04:16
amenadoScorp_-> nope, you can only run wubi.exe in windows..then after you have an ubuntu running inside a windows, then you can install..get it?04:16
llin-ubuntuI actually have nearly 20 distro's04:16
gyaresu_tehjesse: K. So it's the 250GB /dev/sdc drive right?04:16
ng0nwhy does Firestarter DUMP when i minimize it ?04:16
Scorp_amenado: yeah04:16
iceswordPelo, sigh what04:16
gyaresu_tehjesse: Did you install ntfs-3g ?04:16
Scorp_amenado: I actually got it to work once04:16
Scorp_amenado: with hardy04:16
Pelollin-ubuntu, kunkun  http://www.zoitz.com/archives/3504:16
kunkunJust had to one up me, ey llin =/.04:16
Peloicesword, nvm04:16
Scorp_amenado: then I updated04:16
tehjesseyeah, but i didn't install ntfs-3g04:16
Scorp_amenado: and it brought me intraframs04:16
ng0nnm. i'm blind.04:17
llin-ubuntulol04:17
kunkunNoob question, if I have ubuntu 7.XX installed, when 8.XX is released, can I directly upgrade from 7.XX, or do I have to download and burn it to a cd again?04:17
amenadoScorp_-> when you said you got it working once, to boot directly to ubuntu after installation right?04:17
gyaresu_!ntfs-3g | tehjesse04:17
llin-ubuntuI got the same type of response in #sidux, they were like "what? just use this!"04:17
ubotutehjesse: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:17
Chicoalo ?04:18
Scorp_amenado: yeah04:18
ng0nkunkun: not a dumb question.04:18
amenadokunkun its possible, but try to enjoy the 7.10 for now04:18
Pelokunkun,   from 7.10 to 8.04 youcan upgrade online but many prefer upgrading from the cd,  you do not have to reinstall04:18
Chicoalguem fala português ?04:18
Starnestommy!br | Chico04:18
ubotuChico: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.04:18
llin-ubuntuI can't commit to just one distro...i prefer a harem of them :P04:18
equaanyone know where to find some cool anime effect for compiz04:19
Chicothanks !04:19
Pelokunkun, the only other release that will upgrade directly to 8.04 is  6.06, all other will only upgrade to the next distro in the line04:19
CheticI'm in serious trouble here.. Someone please help me get firefox working04:19
amenadoScorp_-> you have to check the files in /boot  /boot/grub  make sure they are there, what kind of error you get before getting to busybox prompt?04:19
StarnestommyChetic: try sudo aptitude reinstall firefox04:19
Peloequa,   the compiz webpage has a plug in section04:19
equacool will check it out04:20
amenadollin-ubuntu-> check this out..you have six? this guy have..  http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14397304:20
tehjessethankssss04:20
Scorp_amenado: I'm not getting a error04:20
cmathesonis there something similar to basename but that gives the path of a file instead of the filename?04:20
* Pelo remapped his mouse buttons earlier but he's been using the old way for 2years and he's all mess up now 04:20
CheticStarnestommy: Didn't work!04:21
Cheticsame problem04:21
Shadow420Chetic uninstall firefox and reinstall it04:21
CheticShadow420: I have tried that already :(04:21
Cheticeven tried installing 2.004:21
Shadow420Chetic ok?04:21
CheticI have no freakin idea what to do about it..04:22
amenadoScorp_-> can you post in pastebin your  menu.lst and device.map ?04:23
Scorp_amenado: what are those and where is pastebin04:23
amenadocmatheson-> you looked at  dirname  ?04:23
amenado!pastebin | Scorp_04:23
ubotuScorp_: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)04:23
cmathesonamenado: that's exactly what i'm looking for, thanks04:24
guitarthrasheri need some help with dual monitors.04:24
guitarthrasheri'm on a laptop.04:24
amenadoScorp_-> those are the important files  menu.lst and device map,  go look for them, use find04:24
Cheticgah I'll just switch to windows then.. woo freakin hoo04:24
Scorp_k04:24
kunkunI'm at the part of installing ubuntu screen where I have to choose a partition. I have two 500gb SATA drives both with data on them that I want. Is there any way to just take like 40gb away from one of them for Ubuntu?04:24
amenadokunkun-> they both have free spaces?04:25
kittykittykunkun which version of windows or what are you suing?04:25
kunkunWindows XP Pro SP304:25
anmarHello guys. I have Hardy working with my ATI video card with acceleration with out any problems but need to install the catalyst control center. Any idea if it is part of Hardy debs or I have to install from source?04:25
amenado!hardy | anmar04:25
ubotuanmar: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!04:25
ng0nwhat's the name of VM ware in Ubuntu - to run xp window ?04:26
computerI am teh jessies. helps me04:26
guitarthrasherI need help with setting up a second display04:26
urthmoveryay  porticus = apt_get04:26
guitarthrasheri just want to clone a display04:26
amenadong0n-> you can use either vmware, virtualbox , openvz, i there are others too04:26
anmaramenado: oops.. I guess I need to go to the Ubuntu+ IRC room?04:26
schmid1I've discovered an issue with nm-applet. I've searched Google but don't know specifically what to look for to see if anyone else has seen it. I have a wireless router that's not broadcasting, and it's using WEP. First I set up a code on key 2, and I can't connect. When it's set to key 1, it's fine. Any explanation there?04:26
amenadoanmar yes my friend04:27
urthmoverVMware Server for Linux is FREE04:27
phuzionIs the package ruby-gtk2 anywhere in the repos?04:27
urthmoverI would use that04:27
spencerhello, I cant seem to get JACK itself to work anymore, it claims that HW:0 is in use, which means an application is using it. Ive looked for particular processes which might use the sound card but i cant find any, and im not sure what is running to prevent JACK from starting.04:27
ng0nok.04:27
ng0ntnx04:27
urthmovernp04:27
anmaramenado: sorry man... thanks04:27
kunkunThere are options Guided - Resize, Guided - use entire disk, Guided - use largest continuous free space, and Manual. Which do I choose to install ubuntu from a chunk of space existing on a pre-existing partition that contains files I want, but also has free space?04:27
amenadoanmar you were not the first .. :P04:27
Scorp_amenado: I currently don't have a ubuntu install04:27
guitarthrasherhey guys, I need help with setting up a second display.04:27
kittykittyif you had vista you could just shrink the partitions, you can use partition magic or find a more "free" program that can do it for xp04:27
kittykittyyou can also try wubi04:27
amenadoScorp_-> if you dont have an install, how do you expect to boot from it?04:28
guitarthrasheri just want to clone the display onto a projector.04:28
JohnMMkittykitty, gparted is a free non destructive partitioner for linux04:28
urthmoveranyone have a chumby here?04:28
kittykittynone of those kunkun04:28
JohnMMyou can use a knoppix dvd to use gparted on a boot drive04:28
Scorp_amenado: also something that might help, the last time I tried installing hardy beta with wubi it froze while I was setting it up04:28
urthmoverand yes thats chumby not chubby04:28
urthmover:-)04:28
Scorp_amenado: I used to have one04:28
vkennedy85How can I find out the correct model # of my lcd tv for use as a second monitor?04:29
ng0nhmmm. says vmware not for i38604:29
amenadokunkun you need to have a free spaces to install, you dont want to clobber your existing windows partitions04:29
urthmover? ng0n?04:29
kunkunAmenado, That's what I Ment, I want to take part of that partition and make a new one.04:29
urthmoverruns fine on 32bit ubuntu versions04:29
amenadoScorp_-> i cant help you with hardy, i have not tried it myself yet04:29
guitarthrasher?04:29
Scorp_amenado: ok, thank you for your help gtg04:29
amenadokunkun, did you already save important data in your windows filesystem?04:30
ng0nkunkun: i ran partition from CD live, i believe, and it lets you 'shrink' an NTFS partition and create a linux in the opened space.04:30
llin-ubuntuamendo: That's inspiring, great thread thanks :D I bookmarked it04:30
amenadokunkun after you have save those important files, then from a liveCD you can resize the partitions on your drives, use the windows tools if possible04:31
guitarthrashercan anyone help me with the display clone?04:31
amenadollin-ubuntu-> surprising huh? 100+ distros? hehe04:31
llin-ubuntuhehe :D and i thought i was clever having 6 distros on my pc04:32
amenadoguitarthrasher-> not I, i only got one, anyhow you looked into xinerama?04:32
yowshigrrr i have searched high and low and i cant find the lib i need to make psx work04:32
nairbhi! where could i find the previous advance topics on ubuntu forums?04:32
llin-ubuntuthat is truly inspiring04:32
guitarthrasheramenado-> yes. i just have an intel chipset though.04:33
amenadollin-ubuntu-> plus he uses combo of bsd flavors and solaris too04:33
guitarthrasheri dont know where to go from there.04:33
kunkunHow would I go about doing this on Windows? (Creating partitions that is.)04:33
guitarthrasheri just want to use a projector for a project i'm presenting.04:33
amenadoguitarthrasher-> sorry am no help on that one..04:33
guitarthrasherthanks anyway, man. i appreciate it.04:33
llin-ubuntui've never ventured out of debian and .rpm based distros, i've only just begun ^.^04:33
__david__can someone PLEASE help,last night my wireless was running fine,yet now the pages load soooo slow. The only major mod ive made to ubuntu since then is setting up04:34
amenadoguitarthrasher-> doesnt the laptop have a key combo to use the external output instead of the display it has?04:34
__david__setting up compizfusion04:34
guitarthrasheryes, but it seems to not work.04:34
guitarthrasher-_-04:34
guitarthrasherit worked fine with winblows, but not on ubuntu..04:34
amenadoguitarthrasher-> use a crt monitor or lcd and set it for low rez perhaps04:34
guitarthrashertried that.04:35
guitarthrasherlast time i tried hooking one up and using the gui compiz fell through along with all of the drivers.04:35
guitarthrasheri had to do a reinstall.04:35
kitty13kittydamn it i need a high gain directional antenna04:35
nairbhi! does any have tried the "useradd username -p password" and made the password encrypted in the /etc/shadow ?04:35
equakitty13kitty> lol04:35
llin-ubuntukunkun: partition magic for windows, it creates new partitions out of your larger windows partition without formatting your windows stuff, basically resizes it and makes new partitions04:36
kitty13kittythere moved my antanna 6 inches up, 18% better signal04:36
amenadokitty13kitty-> moving it up another 6 may get you 36% ? lol04:36
equalol04:36
llin-ubuntuit's not free though :P but it does the job04:36
kitty13kittyno that'll put me into the cieling04:36
yowshianyone know where i can get libgtkglext-x11-1.0.so.004:37
demonsporkhas the names of the next releases been decided yet?04:37
amenadonairb-> passwords are encrypted when stashed in /etc/shadow04:37
kitty13kittyanyone know why apache2 would fail to spawn yet refuses to give any errors?04:37
ce_luvyhy04:38
Shadow420what was the name of the disk fragmentation package?04:38
yowshii have every libgtkglext in synaptic and psx still says i dont have the lib04:38
amenadokitty13kitty-> you looked at its config file ..process limits?04:38
kunkunAnother question, I have been looking into alternatives for running XP on Ubuntu, and QEMU appeared, anyone ever use that / is it the best FREE choice?04:38
amenadoShadow420-> chkdisk in windows04:38
Shadow420kunkun qemu would be the best choice for easy setup and use04:39
amenadokunkun-> did we not suggest vmware and virtualbox?04:39
kitty13kitty no cause i am trying to follow the lamp instructions since i'm to stoopid to figure it out for myself and its a 'fresh' install04:39
nairbmenado:im using ubuntu 7.10 server edition and when i execute the command "useradd username -p password"  the password is not encrypted in /etc/shadow04:39
Shadow420amenado for ubntu?04:39
nairbamenado:im using ubuntu 7.10 server edition and when i execute the command "useradd username -p password"  the password is not encrypted in /etc/shadow04:39
amenadoyes04:39
zelrikriandokitty13kitty:  hello04:39
kunkunSorry amenado, I must have missed it. VMware or Virtualbox > QEMU? In your opinion?04:40
amenadonairb really? thats news to me04:40
kitty13kittykunkun you can also try WUBI04:40
amenadokunkun-> this is not a survey room, depends on your requirements04:40
nairbamenado: i just installed it recently, and havent configured much04:41
AuctionedllamaHi everyone, could you guys tell me if there is a limewire equivalent for ubuntu? I am sorta in a hurry, but anything is great, thanks04:41
Shadow_XOPINION WANTED: whats the best Mac OS X dock clone for linux (gnome)04:41
Shadow420amenado the disk defrag program for ubntu?04:41
kunkunKitty13Kitty, is that not for XP? I'm talking about Ubuntu clients.04:41
nairbamenado: or im not doing the correct syntax?04:41
kitty13kitty!wubi04:41
ubotuwubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)04:41
AuctionedllamaHi everyone, could you guys tell me if there is a limewire equivalent for ubuntu? I am sorta in a hurry, but anything is great, thanks04:41
amenadonairb-> its adduser  not useradd04:41
Ademanhey is the zope3 package horribly broken or what?04:42
nairbamenado: like a useradd username -p -password?04:42
Shadow420Auctionedllama | !frostwire04:42
amenadoShadow420-> off course not, thats why i said windows :)04:42
nairbthanks, i'll try that04:42
Shadow420!frostwire04:42
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire04:42
Auctionedllama!frostwire | Auctionedllama04:42
AuctionedllamaNice, thanks mate04:42
amenadonairb please man adduser04:42
kunkunI want to install XP ON Ubuntu, not Ubuntu on XP.04:42
nairbamenado: thanks04:43
kitty13kittywhich os are you running right now kunkun?04:43
Shadow420kunkun then u need qemu, virtualbox or vmware04:43
Shadow_Xkunkun: i would recommend virtualbox. it has a seamless mode that blends your windows desktop and your ubuntu desktop together04:44
ng0nhmmm. installed an ap but it not on any menus.04:44
Auctionedllamawhat is virtual box, exactly? is it similar to wine or no?04:44
StarnestommyAuctionedllama: it's a virtual machine04:44
nerdpartyDoes anyone here run Hamachi, and if so how do I install it?04:44
AuctionedllamaAlright04:44
Shadow_Xvirtualbox is a virtual machine application. it uses software to emulate a full computer04:44
AuctionedllamaO yes, and one more question, on compiz, the 3d cube.. is it possible to have differnt desktop pictures on each face of the cube, and/or have different icons? Thanks04:45
MythrilI am having trouble setting up subversion/webdav and I am getting an error I don't know enough about to correct04:45
dmsupermanWhere's a good channel to get windows support? specifically, BSOD caused by a new mobo and cpu (not bad hardware, it just won't boot once i installed the new hardware)04:45
kunkunOk, I have PartitionMagic open, and made a 100gig partition. What filesystem do I want to use on linux? NTSF? Fat32?04:45
Shadow_Xvirtualbox emulates everything from your processor, motherboard, optical drives, floppy drives, NIC, USB, and everything up to your video card.04:45
Starnestommydmsuperman: ##windows04:45
dmsupermanStarnestommy, thanks :D04:45
prettyrickyI know linux is virus free for the most part, but if using frotwire will there be a chance for any virus?04:45
AuctionedllamaO yes, and one more question, on compiz, the 3d cube.. is it possible to have differnt desktop pictures on each face of the cube, and/or have different icons? Thanks04:45
Shadow_Xdmsuperman, you can PM me and i'll try to help you, or you can join ##windows as Starnestommy mentioned04:45
kitty13kittydmsuperman hal.dll error?04:45
MythrilI am having trouble setting up subversion/webdav and I am getting an error I don't know enough about to correct: "Dav is not allowed here"04:45
prettyricky*frostwire04:45
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Shadow_Xprettyricky, you can possible download windows virii, yes, but they will have no affect on your linux machine. i would still check them if you move them to a windows box04:46
Shadow420prettyricky the chance for a linux virus is very low04:46
dmsupermankitty13kitty, I'll PM you? Don't wanna get in trouble...04:46
prettyrickyok just curious, cause I know limewire is pretty bad I rather use newsgroups04:46
prettyrickythanks guys!04:47
ng0ndmsuperman: run repair from WINDOWS CD.04:47
Shadow_Xprettyricky, to my understanding, any linux "virus" must be run with root powers to do any serious damage. and i find it unlikely that you will be downloading anything in frostwire that you will run as root in linux ;)04:47
ng0nprobably won't work. but might.04:47
* zelrikriando cant wait until the 24th Oo04:47
kitty13kittyif its the hal.dll error i'm thinking of, running the repair cd won't fix snot04:47
ng0ni hate the hal.dll error04:48
kidzhow come ubuntu freeze when I did not use it for awhile??04:48
dmsupermanHow can you run a repair? I only know about the recovery console, where you can copy files from disc to hdd04:48
kitty13kittykidz, you using the suspend/hibernate features in powermanagement?04:48
ng0ndmsuperman.  boot from win CD.. select repair function.04:48
kidzno04:48
kidzI disabled all that04:48
dmsupermanng0n, I've never had that option :s04:49
Shadow_Xkidz, sounds like it was X. did the entire machine actually freeze? did u try a tty?04:49
ng0ndmsuperman.  sorry.  can't offer more.  reinstall.04:49
kitty13kittydmsuperman, did you "install a new hd" and moved your windows partitions farther back in the boot sequence, what is the actuall error?04:49
amenadokidz i dont know either, the Xorg taking up nearly 99% of cpu also makes your system freeze04:49
doug2266778822what is the command to see all the drives on your comp?04:50
dmsupermankitty13kitty, I can't see the error, it reboots the second it BSOD's. and no, hard drives are the same, in the same order, only thing different is mobo and cpu04:50
amenadodoug2266778822-> man fdisk04:50
ng0nmobo and CPU often require format and re-install of OS04:50
kitty13kittydmsuperman, did you try it in safe mode yet?04:50
doug2266778822amenado: thanks04:50
kidzthe entire thing did freeze. and whats that Xorg and tty thing?04:50
dmsupermankitty13kitty, also bsod04:50
amenadodoug2266778822-> also  man man   to familiarize yourself with man pages04:50
amenadokidz may i suggest a tutorial on how to use linux?04:51
kidzthat would be nice04:51
yowshii wodner if the reason it says it doesnt exist is because the file in the /usr/lib folder looks like a symlink or something04:51
kitty13kittydmsuperman, tried putting it back in the old mobo/cpu just for kicks?04:51
kidzcuz this is my first day/time using ubuntu04:51
dmsupermankitty13kitty, I would rather just reinstall if that were the case...honestly i'm not too worried about windows working, i only use it for games04:52
ng0ndmsuperman: do a back up. format. reinstall OS.  then migrate in aps.04:52
dmsupermanng0n, I only have 3 games, hamachi, and pidgin installed, so it's not overly difficult. only thing is I'm not sure where supreme commander saves it's saved games and that's the only thing i really want to back up04:53
amenadokidz a good one is from   free-electrons.com    http://free-electrons.com/training/intro_unix_linux04:53
dmsupermanng0n, I've saved a game right in the perfect spot to fully test my new mobo and cpu haha04:53
ng0ndmsuperman: i just did a MB, Chip.  All i had to do on Ubuntu was re-run the X setup.  but in Vista - no go. kaput04:53
kitty13kittydmsuperman, if you do big system changes like motherboard/video card, xp will complain that you're trying to pirate it across several boxes, but it normally doesn't bsod, if it doesn't work in the old comp, just re-install. if it does, then remove drivers like a bandit and try again04:53
dmsupermanng0n, yeah, ubuntu works fine. I didn't have to change a thing haha. winblows is lame lol04:53
yowshican anyone help me try and suss out this dependency problem i am having? trying to get pSX working and even though i haev installed the paclage that is supposed to have the library it says is missing it still says it is missing04:53
ng0nwith Vista cd you can 'repair'.. but it didn't work.04:53
kidzthx amenado04:53
dmsupermanI guess my only option is to reinstall then04:54
noodles12If i install hardy heron RC, will i be able to just update to the current release ?04:54
amenadokidz you're welcome04:54
ng0ndmsuperman:  it's ok to do it the easy way.04:54
ng0nevery once in a while.04:54
b1n0rycan someone help me get flash playing in firefox on ubuntu?04:54
kitty13kittydmsuperman, if you just reinstall over the old install (like you're doing an upgrade/repair) it keeps all your old settings anyways04:54
amenadoyowshi-> you compiled it yourself?04:54
Fdisk93dmsuperman are you saying you have xp and ubuntu dual booting on the same pc and ubuntu will boot fine ?04:54
dmsupermanFdisk93, yeah, new mobo and cpu and windows now gets a BSOD04:55
amenadob1n0ry-> you have googled for a how to on that have you?04:55
dmsupermankitty13kitty, sweet, thanks04:55
ng0nyep04:55
b1n0ryamenado: duh, yeah04:55
Fdisk93and the dual boot ??04:55
yowshiamenado: no the file i downloaded was just an executable but it wont run says i dont have the lib i need04:55
Fdisk93ubuntu boots ok04:55
kitty13kittydmsuperman, just don't let it format/partition your windows drive04:55
dmsupermanFdisk93, Ubuntu works fine, grub works fine, and windows works up til the load screen, it shows the laod screen then BSOD04:55
ng0nya. same here. dual boot. only had to run Xsetup to make Ubuntu run.04:55
ng0nbooted off of grub.04:55
dmsupermankitty13kitty, alright, I'll try that if I can't figure this out :D04:55
amenadob1n0ry-> duh, and did you follow it step by step?04:55
yowshiamenado: i got the copy of psx from http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/04:56
b1n0ryi tried installing the gnash package. video is either corrupted (just a black irregular box with controls) or loads perpetually04:56
dmsupermanman I hope I don't have to roll another windows cd for these sata drivers, i'm not sure how to do that without windows to begin with04:56
b1n0ryso i tried installing adobe shockwave flash player from the website, installed fine, i see it in plugins but it never loads (never even shows a spot where it should be)04:56
doug2266778822amenado: thank u04:56
amenadoyowshi-> thats the problem sometimes, if it was not compiled on similar kernel as what you are running04:56
dmsupermanand I really don't want to take this case back apart, I finally got all the cables going how i like it and it's tucked away04:56
kitty13kittywhats the runtime for apache2, is it apache2 or a2 ?04:56
b1n0ryand no, i don't have them enabled at the same time04:56
dmsupermankitty13kitty, apache2 i believe04:56
amenadodoug2266778822-> anytime..i know its a lil extra work, but you will get the hang of the man pages04:57
yowshiamenado: grrr well hmmmm you kow where i can get the source code by any chance or where i would start looking and please dotn say google04:57
bz029I need help with setting up Apache, SSL, SVN. I have it all setup but i am getting  403 forbidden errors when i try to import in the form of svn: MKACTIVITY of 'svn/test/!svn/act/[arbitrary string of numbers/letters].04:57
dmsupermanwell i'm off to probably reinstall, thanks guys04:57
amenadob1n0ry-> gnash seems to be a pile of junk, try to use adobe at least i know it works04:57
bz029*making a paste of configuration now*04:57
Fdisk93if ubuntu is booting fine it sounds like a device driver problem in xp at boot time i had the same problem after a cpu mb upgrade04:57
nerdpartyI'm trying to install a program and it's telling me to run the "make" command, but when I enter it in the terminal it says that there's no such command.04:58
dmsupermanFdisk93, I know, I just didn't know how to fix that04:58
amenadoyowshi-> well google is your friend, he knows where pxemulator hids their stuff :p04:58
bz029nerdparty do this: find / -type f -name "make" -print04:58
kitty13kittynerdparty, you'll need the build packages04:58
Fdisk93it was easyer to back then do a clean install but dont overwrite partitions you wanna save data on04:58
amenadoyowshi-> if not google, there is yahoo, plenty of search engines out there04:59
yowshiamenado: yeah problem is that i dont know what to use to narrow it down. if i use psx source code linux i will get 5 mill entries and only 5 have what i want04:59
nerdpartyI don't understand. I'm told to type "make install" in the terminal, how do I build packages or whatever?04:59
devin_i installed startupmanager and changed my usplash screen, but now everytime i go to restart the ubuntu logo is hideous. can some tell me how to reset it back to default04:59
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b1n0ryamenado: i did follow directions, sorta. problem was after 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' it said to do 'sudo update-flashplugin' but i got 'sudo: update-flashplugin: command not found'05:00
amenadoyowshi-> we all go throug it,  patience man ..patience05:00
peepsalotis there a keyboard shortcut to open gnome panel menu05:00
peepsaloti'm having issues using the mouse05:00
amenadob1n0ry-> update-flashplugin is not in the command list i looked at05:00
b1n0ryamenado: the beauty of GOOGLE, try to get the same set of search results 2 days in a row ;)05:01
amenadob1n0ry-> type   update  then press tab twice05:01
amenadob1n0ry-> you can pay for those special databases if you dislike google..what you say?05:01
ng0ni just installed a program.  can't find it anywhere ?05:02
nerdpartybz029: It gives me a long list of what looks like commands, each one says permission denied.05:02
patifapeepsalot: ALT+F105:02
ng0nuggg. not in usr/bin or usr/bin/x1105:02
peepsalotthank you patifa05:02
patifaI set it to Super L ;)05:02
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devin_anyone have a clue on how to fix my issue?05:03
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rixth_Hey. Is there anyway I can slow my network down intetionally? I want to test a file upload to a web server, but it goes way too fast!05:03
nerdpartyrixth_: I wish I had that problem...05:04
amenadorixth_-> scratching halt slow?05:04
rixth_amenado, well, at the moment, I'm trying to upload a 5mb picture, and it takes a split second. I want to actually see the upload process.05:04
rixth_So essentially, I want to throttle HTTP traffic to localhost05:05
amenadorixth_-> okay pull out and dust your ole 56kbps modem...get ready.. :)05:05
patifarixth_ you could try wondershaper or something05:05
rixth_hehe05:05
rixth_thanks patifa I'll look into it05:05
solid_liqdid you know, alt-z makes your text go backwards in most irc clients?05:05
solid_liq.ereh ti did I ?eeS05:05
b1n0ryamenado: alright, seems to be working now05:05
amenadob1n0ry-> okay excellent..05:06
b1n0ryamenado: apparently just having gnash disabled wasn't enough. had to sudo apt-get remove gnash05:06
patifaYou won't get the exact same performance as, say, ye ole 56K, as conditions aren't quite so clean-cut as the raw bandwidth limitation05:06
miliaone day to go...05:06
amenadob1n0ry-> yeah gnash is not there yet..05:06
urthmoverexit05:07
patifaFor reference, rixth_, the command to wondershaper _should_ be sudo wondershaper eth0 downkbits upkbits05:07
llin-ubunturixth why do you need to do that?  doesn't the upload work no matter the speed?05:07
patifaWhere eth0 could also be wlan0 if you're on wireless, for example, or crazier things if you're using VPN.05:07
rixth_patifa, it's broken in hardy =( there's a bug at launchpad05:08
amenadorixth_-> what are you after really?05:08
rixth_amenado, I need to slow my upload speed to localhost05:08
amenadorixth_-> to do what? you want to monitor traffic?05:08
yowshipah i think i will just use epsxe it is one i know and like05:09
llin-ubuntuyou could hop on a bittorrent and saturate your connection05:09
yowshijust didnt think there was a nix version hehehe05:09
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amenadoyowshi-> there you go, google is so friendly huh? :P05:09
patifaThat won't help llin-ubuntu, you'd have to tax the living daylights out of the CPU to stall out the kernel's networking activity.05:09
devin_how do i reset my /boot/grub/menu.lst  to default ?05:09
ToddEDMwhat do you guys use for a messenger client?.. pidgin?05:09
yowshiamenado: yeah but i still -didnt- find what i -was looking- for05:09
amenadodevin_-> no such thing as default05:10
patifaI couldn't get pidgin to do IRC worth a darn, ToddEDM.  But it's not bad for everything else.05:10
rixth_amenado, I'm making a file uploader that has a progress bar05:10
rixth_amenado but files upload too fast for the bar to appear05:10
ToddEDMpatifa:  im using pidgin, it works ok for IRC, except changing servers05:10
amenadorixth_-> look into netcat, it has so many options, perhaps one of them is to slow it down, piping it to a file, etcetera05:11
llin-ubunturixth_ is your server on the internet or is it local?05:11
rixth_llin-ubuntu, local05:11
ToddEDManyone use anything else besides pidgin?05:11
patifarixth_ if you can, try to access your webserver with though something besides localhost. I'm not even sure what would happen if you limit the localhost bandwidth using wondershaper.05:11
ng0nllinbada05:11
llin-ubuntuoh :D i thought you just have an extremely awesome connection at home05:11
amenadorixth_-> oh yeah, trying it on localhost is futile, transfer it to another puter..05:11
patifaWhich is also why he can't saturate the localhost loop using bittorrent ;)05:12
rixth_ToddEDM, I use aMSN because it supports webcams05:12
rixth_Ack, okay05:12
ToddEDMrixth_:  does it work good?05:12
rixth_ToddEDM, I like it05:12
rixth_It's MSN only, though05:12
ToddEDMyeah thats ok05:12
ToddEDMcool05:12
megeriarixth_: stupid question, but why don't you try it with like a 500mb file that should slow it down05:13
rixth_megeria, hmm great idea05:13
ToddEDMwow, 2 hours for this upgrade to hardy to finish....05:13
JPSmanyeah05:14
DanikarPNYou upgrading to RC? Hardy isn't out till Thursday correct?05:14
User2005yup05:14
JPSmani'm torrenting it to a CD :P05:14
llin-ubuntui like kopete and pidgin, and xchat and konversation05:14
JPSmanTorrents are just he way to go05:14
kitty13kittyi wonder if my firewall is working...05:14
yowshigrrrr epsxe doesnt wanna coorperate either only this time i aint getting any error messages05:14
yowshii am never going to get to enjoy ff7 ever again am i05:14
piscahow extract file *.so.tar.gz ??05:15
megeriapisca: try "tar xzf *.so.tar.gz"05:15
Starnestommypisca: to extract a tar.gz, open it with the archive manager or with "tar -xzf filename.tar.gz"05:15
rixth_amenado, patifa, using wondershaper on lo worked fine05:17
rixth_Though it will probably have some weird side effects05:17
llin-ubuntucool rixth_ so did your progress bar work?05:17
NickoPenuit05:18
rixth_Appears to be, the client will be pleased05:18
llin-ubuntuThats good =)05:18
DanikarPNIs there a command line way to get a list of packages installable through apt-get?05:20
bz029apt-cache search [package]05:20
Cpudan80DanikarPN: To simply list them all?05:20
Cpudan80DanikarPN: sudo apt-get install (tab twice)05:20
DanikarPNCpudan80: i'd like to redirect them to a file. So yes.05:20
bz029does apt-cache search * work?05:20
DanikarPNCpudan80: I tried that, it just listed the same thing sudo apt-get (tab twice) does. Ill try apt-cache though. Thanks bz02905:21
kunkunWhat type of file sytem do I want Ubuntu to be running on?05:21
Starnestommykunkun: probably ext305:21
Cpudan80kunkun: the default (ext3)05:21
petes256hey is there a way in dual-view mode to keep the moitors discrete?05:21
kunkunThank you05:21
Cpudan80petes256: How do you mean?05:22
petes256right now when I hit to fullscreen a window it takes up both monitors05:22
petes256and I want it just to fill the window that it is in05:22
DanikarPNCan you install Ubuntu directly onto a NTFS or Fat parition?05:22
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patifa....I think I made xchat really angry.05:23
petes256anything come to mind?05:23
blackvdAnyone in here using Guake? I downloaded the deb off the site but when trying to install it complains about libc6 which I have installed? Thinking I need to sym link something?05:24
amenadoDanikarPN-> you can not boot from NTFS filesystem05:25
chris_420hi folks05:25
Chris|if i do apt-get dist-upgrade from gutsy minimal installation will it be the same as hardy heron minimal installation?05:25
chris_420i have a question regarding a sata/ide controller PCI card05:25
amenado!hardy | Chris|05:25
ubotuChris|: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!05:25
chris_420in gutsy05:25
Chris|.. thanks, i'll google it05:26
dragonfly7Can someone reccomend a command line torrent engine?05:26
tonyyarussoengine?05:26
Chris|dragonfly7 rtorrent05:27
amenadodragonfly7-> isnt it that all gui have a command line behind it? try to use execute it from a terminal?05:27
chris_420ok the problem is this... i have two optical drives hooked up to my promise(brand) sata/ide controller.... i can view the files... but can play movie from the dvd-rom...05:27
chris_420the info from lspci is this:              01:00.0 Mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20375 (SATA150 TX2plus) (rev 02)05:27
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chris_420help!!05:28
dragonfly7I want to run something from a server with no GUI, so I want to be able to mange torrents completely from the command line.05:28
tomoyuki28jphow can I install nfk ?? I could not install it by sudo apt-get install nfk.05:28
chris_420tomo apt-cache search nfk05:28
therealnanotubeanyone have experience with laptop hardware, displays in particular?05:29
chris_420find the appropriate package and type in package name05:29
tomoyuki28jpchris_420: thanks for your info. I will try that.05:29
chris_420sweet np hope it helps05:29
nicledragonfly7:  try http://www.transmissionbt.com/05:29
megeriatherealnanotube: depends hope you are not trying to build one05:30
jnkqbut can play movie from the dvd-rom?05:30
chris_420can't05:30
chris_420sorry05:30
therealnanotubemegeria: haha, well, more like "rebuild" one.  :) my laptop screen just died - it was kind of flickering for since yesterday, and today, it died. if i shine a light on the lcd just so, i can still barely make out stuff, so it seems to me that it's either the CCFL bulb or the inverter, since the lcd itself is working just fine. the question is: how do i know whether its the ccfl itself that's bad, or the inverter? this is a dell in05:31
therealnanotubespiron 5150, by the way.05:31
chris_420im wondering if i might have to reinstall some libraries or something05:31
tomoyuki28jpchris_420: "apt-cache nfk" only gives me the result "libcamomile-ocaml-dev - Unicode library for OCaml", and I thought it is not that I wanted.05:31
tomoyuki28jpchris_420: Ubuntu does not have the packege nfk?? uhmmm.05:31
eppis ubuntu being released at 12:00 tonight?05:31
jnkqare you sure it's not the player's problem?05:31
chris_420ahhh not cool05:31
balajiitianwhat is a router service?05:32
chris_420jnk im using ogle  it played perfectly before i rearranged and tried reinstalling still nothing05:32
chris_420tomo tried sourceforge?05:32
eppis hardy being released at midnight?05:32
megeriatherealnanotube: sorry gave up pretending to be an EE, maybe theres a demigod around whos good with microelectronics05:32
chris_420sweet another qwest client haha05:33
therealnanotubemegeria: heh well, thanks for trying, anyway :)05:33
peepsalotwhen X doesn't start, where is the error log located?05:33
jnkq420 you can try on console to see what's the error message?05:33
chris_420isn't it etc/log?05:34
chris_420let me retry it ill cut and paste the error here one sec05:34
peepsalotsorry, i found it nevermind05:34
megeriapeepslat: usually /var/log/Xorg.?.log05:34
chris_420cool05:34
eppim freakin out!!!05:34
eppwhens the official hard release?05:34
epphardy*05:34
_Net2 days05:34
eppso not midnight tonight?05:34
_NetNo April 24th05:34
jnkqBe that accurate?05:35
ZeZuif i use ifconfig then route to setup ips on an interface it should be avail for useage immediately ?05:35
petes256I have a question about dual-view05:35
eppim gonna die05:35
eppi cant wait05:35
jnkqCount down in seconds,haha.05:35
_Netlol.05:35
petes256When I try and maximize a window it fills up both my screens, is there an easy way to get it just to fill up one05:36
petes256instead of both05:36
chris_420chris@eXeCuTiOnEr:~$ ogle05:36
chris_420ERROR[ogle_nav]: faild to open/read the DVD05:36
chris_420DVDSetDVDRoot:: Root not set05:36
chris_420that would be the error05:37
balajiitianare there any software that provides router service?05:37
_NetYour router.05:37
balajiitiansuppose i need to install what should i do05:38
chris_420but i can view the contents of the drive... no problem.... from the cd-rom i can play music... but from the dvd-rom i get no movie play05:38
balajiitianplease name the package05:38
_NetWhats your router name and model balajiitian?05:39
peepsalotwhat is command to re-initialize networking?05:39
peepsalotsudo /etc/network .... or something05:40
nickrudpeepsalot sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (mostly)05:40
chris_420ifconfig down (stop ifconfig up starts05:40
chris_420like this05:40
chris_420ifconfig wlan0(interface) up05:40
nickrudchris_420 true, if the networking is run through /etc/network/interfaces05:40
Krzzzzhows it going folk05:41
peepsalotnickrud, thanks nickrud that's the one i was looking for.  forgot the init.d part05:41
chris_420nick ahhhhh05:41
chris_420hehe05:41
chris_420< goes back and sits in corner05:41
Krzzzzim geting this error05:41
yowshiwooot i should have just looked in the ubuntu forums first05:41
KrzzzzE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:41
nickrudchris_420 these days it's killall NetworkManager && NetworkManager for me :)05:41
Krzzzzwhen i try to open the package manager05:41
chris_420sweet05:41
drivetraxwhat's the name of the room here about compiz config manager?05:41
nickrudKrzzzz sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a   in apps->accessories->terminal05:42
chris_420im sort of a noob but what other way can you run the network if not through interfaces?05:42
nickruddrivetrax #compiz-fusion05:42
drivetraxthks05:42
Krzzzzok heres the problem that i have after i run that in terminal05:42
jnkqolge /media/cdromX   or something for a try?05:42
Krzzzzthis all happened after i updated today05:42
KrzzzzProcessing triggers for initramfs-tools ...05:42
Krzzzzupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-rc5-zen1-x8605:42
KrzzzzCannot find /lib/modules/2.6.24-rc5-zen1-x8605:42
Krzzzzupdate-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-rc5-zen1-x8605:42
Krzzzzdpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 105:42
FloodBot2Krzzzz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:42
crwebhow do i install all of gnome from kubuntu  (i want all gnome not just ubuntu-desktop)05:42
jnkq420,  olge /media/cdromX   or something for a try?05:43
Krzzzzi never installed those packages so im kinda baffled05:43
gogetacrweb you mean just gnome itsself?05:43
nickrudchris_420 networkmanager works without /etc/network/interfaces, raises and drops networking as the user comes on line (with nm-applet). That's about all I really know, you can watch it in action with tail -f /var/log/syslog, and plugging and unplugging an ethernet cable for exampe05:43
chris_420ill try it05:43
gogetacrweb apt-get install gnome05:43
sCOTTohey - is anyone here good with video drivers? I just bought a new LG 22 inch widescreen and I want to install it - but the screen isnt showing up in the drivers section... anyone got any answers for me?05:43
chris_420AHHH05:44
chris_420sweet05:44
jnkq?05:44
crwebgogeta: says that it won't install because gnome-desktop-environment isn't going to be installed05:44
chris_420im also using NM figured they all went through interfaces haha05:44
nickrudKrzzzz thats part of you kernel, and a very unusual kernel. It's not the standard ubuntu one05:44
crwebSo, i tried to install it and it said can't install cause gnome-keyring-manager isn't installable.05:44
gogetacrweb: well there you have it05:44
jnkq^_^05:44
bz029 UBUNTU, followed guide for APACHE, SSL, SVN. I am getting a 403 forbidden error, but my permissions appear to be correct. PLEASE HELP! Here is the PASTEBIN: http://www.pastebin.ca/99416105:44
miliaanyone familiar with windowmaker ?05:44
ng0nwhy can't i find a program i just installed ?05:45
bz029milia, sorry not familiar05:45
Krzzzzyeah i never installed that i actually running with the generic one right now05:45
nickrudcrweb gnome-desktop-environment is a debianism, you should be installing ubuntu-desktop instead05:45
ng0nit shows installed.05:45
crwebgogeta: go on down the list and its going to have me type each one in.05:45
miliak, thanx bz02905:45
crwebnickrud: i don't want ubuntu-desktop. I want all of gnome05:45
Krzzzzis there any way to bypass that error/.?05:45
brent113hey, quick question: what's the name of the software that allows you to make a deb from a sh script, I'm drawing a blank05:45
kunkunWhat is a Device for oot loader installation? It says its (hd0)05:45
nickrudcrweb ubuntu desktop gives you all of 'gnome' , you can add apps as you need otherwise05:45
kunkunboot*05:45
gogetahttp://www.elijahlofgren.com/ubuntu/05:46
crwebnickrud: so ubuntu-desktop installs every gnome distributed package?05:46
nickrudKrzzzz not easily. I don't know anything about that kernel at all05:46
astro76brent113: checkinstall ?05:46
brent113yea, that's it, thanks05:46
gogetasudo apt-get install gnome05:46
Krzzzzthats the thing i dont have that installed05:46
gogetathat should work05:46
Krzzzzits weird05:46
loserbarhey all05:46
crwebgogeta: which says gnome-desktop-environment isn't installable so gnome wont' install.  already said that05:46
nickrudcrweb whatever you do decide to do, don't use gnome-desktop-environment package. That's all I wanted to be clear about since it has some dependencies that ubuntu doesn't track properly.05:47
gogetacrweb yea but it shouldent say that05:47
bz029 UBUNTU, followed guide for APACHE, SSL, SVN. I am getting a 403 forbidden error, but my permissions appear to be correct. PLEASE HELP! Here is the PASTEBIN: http://www.pastebin.ca/99416105:47
chris_420JNK YOU FRIGGIN ROCK DUDE05:47
crwebgogeta: well, one would think not..  I'll paste bin it05:47
nickrudgogeta and don't use gnome either ;)05:47
crwebnickrud: i'm not looking for ubuntu-desktop.  I want all of gnome. like installing kde, and kde405:48
nickrudthere's a few packages that the debian developers maintain for creating environments. So DONT USE THEM!05:48
chris_420< one thing must of slipped my mind haha/// the other day it slipped my mind that metall blocks wireless communications haha and was having trouble connecting wirelessly haha05:48
hommeenteteHello - I've been ssh-ing into my ubuntu box for a while now and tonight i tried to log into the GUI here and got this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64068/05:48
hommeenteteCan anyone help please??? It's very important that I get this box running again05:48
nickrudcrweb by 'gnome', what are you thinking of?  try   apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop, what's not there that you want?05:49
miliahommeentete, i see such a message for my first time (but i'm not an old user so..)05:49
gogetanickrud gnome ownez you05:50
chris_420alright ya'll im out to watch a cheech and chong movie haha....05:50
chris_420peace05:50
gogeta:P05:50
hommeentetemilia, what do you mean?05:50
thykoi know long ago gnome was considered more stable than kde, but is that still true?05:50
nickrudgogeta heh. Then it's been cleaned up recently. I've fixed many boxes here where people installed that05:50
miliahommeentete, sorry, i meant i can't really help you with that:X05:50
therealnanotubethyko: depends on who you ask :)05:51
nickrudhommeentete sudo chmod 1777 /tmp , then try again05:51
gogetanickrud my ubuntu gnome box = working fine05:51
thykotherealnanotube: whats your opinioin?05:51
Cpudan80hommeentete: It says you dont have permissions on tmp05:51
hommeenteteI don't know why it would change after it's worked for so long05:51
Cpudan80hommeentete: Login to the root console (failsafe) and do cd /; ls -l | grep tmp --- paste the output05:52
crwebnickrud: ubuntu-desktop is only the gnome apps ubuntu sees fit to be default installed.05:52
gogetanickrud if anything the kubutnu disk i download had alot of issues05:52
Cpudan80hommeentete: Could also be bad permissions on your home dir05:52
xp_prghi all, how do I get kpartx on ubuntu feisty?05:52
nickrudcrweb no, only the default ones (the ones that will fit on a cd) . All others are available from the repos05:52
therealnanotubethyko: well, i use gnome just because i like gnome's panels better... but i've never had either kde or gnome crash on me... in recent memory, so i think they are both stable. (back in the old days of kde 1.x, yea, kde was pretty unstable when i tried it... :) )05:52
hommeenteteWell I did edit the permissions of my home directory05:52
crwebnickrud: which is exactly what i'm saying05:53
crwebnickrud:  i want ALL of gnome not just the default05:53
crwebkde and kd4 provide meta packages to install all of kde, not just kubuntu-desktop05:53
gogetacrweb thats all apps and wm gdm05:53
therealnanotubemegeria: so, i found the dell tech manual for taking apart the lcd: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ins5100/en/sm/display.htm but i don't see specific mention of the ccfl or the inverter - where are they located, generally speaking, do you know?05:53
jnkqubuntu-desktop not full ?05:54
crwebi see plenty of gnome-* packages that are not installed05:54
nickrudcrweb neither does gnome-desktop-environment. There's many apps that are not included in that also05:54
Cpudan80hommeentete: Should be owned by you - and 700 at least05:54
sapHi, was trying to clean up my trash but cannot do so because it says "Error while deleting. need permission... "  Do i have to use root permission? and why?05:54
thykohmm, gnome it is05:54
jnkqthen   apt-get install *gnome*05:54
Cpudan80hommeentete: 755 is preferred05:54
nickrudCpudan80  1777 is correct for /tmp05:54
crwebnickrud: who said anything about gnome-deskto-environment05:54
Cpudan80nickrud: ah right - sorry05:55
hommeentetenickrud, i just tried your suggestion and it looks like it's working so far05:55
gogetacrweb ubuntu does not come with every app installed it would not fit on a cd05:55
crwebi'm not complaining about it _I KNOW)05:55
crwebi said,  apt-get install gnome won't let me install because it says  gnome-desktop-enviroment is not installable05:55
hommeentetebut isn't 1777 permissions rwx for owner user and other?05:55
jnkqYou won't skip anything then.05:55
bz029 UBUNTU, followed guide for APACHE, SSL, SVN. I am getting a 403 forbidden error, but my permissions appear to be correct. PLEASE HELP! Here is the PASTEBIN: http://www.pastebin.ca/99416705:55
gogetacrweb those packges are just a online installer of the cd05:55
megeriatherealnanoetube: assuming that the panel use ccfl probably in the panel, i can't imagine them putting on the case since it makes switching supplier harder05:55
crwebholy crap...05:55
crwebi know how gnome works, and how ubuntu works, been using it since 200305:56
jnkqbz029 :  see   /var/log/apache2/access.log  or error.log05:56
crwebplease read the problem05:56
gogetacrweb then why you asking lol05:56
therealnanotubemegeria: well, i guess i'll just have to dig in and jiggle the juicy insides and see what happens... :)05:56
crwebi said,  apt-get install gnome won't let me install because it says  gnome-desktop-enviroment is not installable05:56
gogetacrweb been linux sence 199605:56
kunkunWHY is this happening?! 'Executing 'grub-install (hd0) failed. This is a fatal error.'05:56
Starnestommybz029: it might be the "Require valid-user" directive.  Comment it out05:56
devin_is there a way to disable the GDM splashscreen all together so it goes from gdm straight to my desktop ?05:56
nickrudcrweb so do I. And, again I suggest you not try to install debian metapackages.05:56
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DanikarPNclear05:57
DanikarPNlol opps05:57
nickruddevin_ you mean, without having to log in?05:57
crwebwow, slashdot wasn't joking.  this is about useless.  I'll just go ask around kubuntu. thanks.05:57
lumayanjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj05:57
therealnanotubethyko: if you want to make a decision based on more that just one random guy's opinion... search the web for kde vs gnome comparisons - you'll find quite a few. :) but generally, i'd say you can't go very wrong with either one.05:57
jnkqgrub-install /dev/sda   OR grub-install /dev/sdaX  (some partition)05:58
megeriatherealnanotube: did you look at http://www.kingsway.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=50 i know its for a thinkpad but the panel isn't design by dell so it may be of use05:58
devin_nickrud no i want to be able to login. i just don't need a splash screen before i login05:58
nickruddevin_ splash screen? you mean usplash, the ugly moving orange bar?05:58
jnkqedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     wrapped out 'splash'05:59
jnkqexit05:59
crwebgogeta: that was a serious thanks for taking sometime btw.05:59
crweberr,  some  time05:59
gogetalol05:59
jnkq:join #debian05:59
hommeentetethanks all!05:59
devin_nickrud not the loading usplash after grub. if thats what you meant06:00
gogetacrweb dunno what else to say i dont knoe any compleate installers any distro06:00
therealnanotubemegeria: wow, that link looks very useful, thanks! i didn't come across it because i was trying dell-specific searches, but this is nice. thanks!06:00
gogetacrweb you just get what you whant06:00
nickruddevin_ I'm trying to think of what splash you see. Mine goes straight to the login screen06:00
gogetacrweb after06:00
crwebgogeta: well you are right, it usually works just installing gnome06:00
gogetacrweb well ubuntu-desktop does that06:01
megeriathenanotube: thank wikipedia lol06:01
thykotherealnanotube: did that already, most of them favour gnome06:01
doug2266778822where do i go to get help with fusion ?06:01
nickruddoug2266778822 #compiz-fusion06:01
crwebi find it funny kde can manage this with its kde and kde4 meta packages ;),  I'll go with ubuntu-desktop and then manually add everything to my install script i'm missing.06:02
therealnanotubethyko: heh ic :)06:02
doug2266778822nickrud: thanks06:02
gogetacrweb kde kde4 are diffrent being the support for them seprated06:02
crwebno no, i just mean you can install "all of kde" with 1 meta package, but it can't be done with gnome well.06:03
devin_nickrud idk, theres just a splash screen after i log on that takes a split second it shows stuff loading then it takes me to my desktop06:03
gogetacrweb yea thats why06:03
nickrudcrweb you can file a wishlist bug for an ubuntu metapackage that would pull in a larger subset of gnome apps, or better yet put it on brainstorm.com06:03
therealnanotubemegeria: here's a helpful tip back to you: your irc client can autocomplete usernames if you start typing and press tab. (i notice you are misspelling my username, so you must not be using autocomplete :) ) at least xchat can, i bet most other clients can too.06:03
therealnanotubemegeria: what wikipedia article did you look at?06:03
crwebgogeta: ah, i see06:03
nickruddevin_ ah, the gnome splash screen. A sec06:03
crwebnickrud: isn't it kind of dangerous to have packages in a repo you are not suppose to install?06:03
xngearwhat triaged bug status mean?06:03
gogetacrweb we only had kubuntu-desktop befor kde4 as well06:03
nickrudcrweb yup06:04
twistageHow do I change a single icon to something else on my desktop, under Gnome?06:04
megeriatherealnanotube: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_cathode and ya tab completion works in irssi just not bothering to use it sometimes lol06:04
devin_nickrud yeah, i just want it to go from gdm to my desktop. no splash or solid color or anything like that, if that be possible?06:04
nickruddevin_  gconf-editor /apps/gnome-session/options/show_splash_screen06:05
crwebgogeta: come to think of it, i remeber that now06:05
crwebbeen using 8.04 for to long06:05
nickruddevin_ you'll have the solid color since that's provided by gdm until the desktop gets rendered06:05
gogeta devin_ yea just remove splash but then you gonna get lots of nice text untill  gdm loads :)06:05
therealnanotubemegeria: heh nice, thanks for your help! i hope i don't screw anything up too badly - but with the photo guide, i think i should be ok.06:05
megeriatherealnanotube: well gl06:06
nickrudxngear someone reviewed the bug and made sure it was usable, and applied to the correct package06:06
kitty13kittyanyone wanna tell me if webserver @ 207.224.100.147 is visible?06:06
therealnanotubemegeria: by the way, just to share back: i got some help in the ##hardware channel: someone suggested that if tapping on the display/machine causes at least a temporary revival, it's more likely the inverter, if not, it's more likely the ccfl. i'll try that too...06:07
xngearnickrud: thanks06:07
devin_brb06:07
noble-kitty13kitty: , yes06:07
therealnanotubekitty13kitty: yes06:07
lekremyelsewhai all06:08
lekremyelsewany gamers here?06:08
kitty13kittygood, now lets see if i can get some mail to this beast :P06:08
lekremyelsewi need help settin up this controller i got06:08
gogeta devin_ and if i rember my kde pretty mutch everything is k this k that wile gnomes stuff more iseprated06:08
nickrudyeah, kde is just so kewl ;)06:08
gogetanickrud: :-(06:09
lekremyelsewanyones?06:09
nickrud!ask | lekremyelsew06:09
ubotulekremyelsew: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)06:09
gogetanickrud i prefer a bit faster then a slow eye candy system06:09
lekremyelsewnickrud: hey im not askin to ask question06:10
gogetanickrud hell i go text just for fun06:10
twistageHow do I go about changing a single icon on my desktop to something else under Gnome?06:10
* mneptok goes postal06:10
therealnanotubelekremyelsew: post the type/model of your controller - that would be a more useful question :)06:10
dubbyis it possible to make it so that I do not have to type in my password every time i wish to run something as root?06:10
nickrudgogeta I've been using gnome since 1.0.56 (the first really stable version) and have sampled kde. I just like the philosophy of 'just works' without tinkering, myself06:10
gogetanickrud text always works06:11
gogetax cant freez then06:11
nickrudlekremyelsew a shorthand for 'I have no idea, since I don't know what you're trying to do' ;)06:11
gogetalol06:11
therealnanotubetwistage: right click on it, select properties, then in the basic tab, click on the current icon, an dyou can select a new one.06:11
twistagetherealnanotube: bah, thanks. im an idiot06:11
lekremyelsewtherealnanotube: its a Microsoft SideWinder DualStrike06:12
gogetanickrud bitchx links gaim-text06:12
therealnanotubetwistage: we all sometimes overlook the obvious :)06:12
gogetanickrud and mplayer06:12
nickrudgogeta there's a version for everyone. That's what's nice. But, we're a bit off topic for #ubuntu ;)06:12
therealnanotubelekremyelsew: well, i'm not a joystick-wielding gamer myself (nor really a mouse and kb wielding gamer anymore, either...), so i can't help you with the actual setup. but maybe someone else can step in. ;)06:13
khaotikcan anyone help me get google earth working?06:13
gogetanickrud: oh i still have my full gui install i just stop gdm sometimes for fun06:13
lekremyelsewMicrosoft SideWinder DualStrike controller, does anyone know how to set one up?06:15
therealnanotubegogeta: instead of stopping, you could just switch to another vty. unless you really need the freed-up ram... :)06:15
_aeGIsdoes anyone have a free shell account?06:15
Alivesmy hostname is weird all of a sudden after a reboot... its subdomain.domain.com.domain.com instead of subdomain.domain.com in all emails... anyone know how to fix this?06:15
h00k_aeGIs, I do somewhere, I dont know where or the details.06:16
doug2266778822sorry i asked but what room for fusion help again?06:16
Aliveshostname reports the correct hostname06:16
nickruddoug2266778822 compiz-fusion06:16
gogetatherealnanotube that wasent the point its abought going old school text. text linux is still very powerfull knothing that does not work06:16
Alivesdoug2266778822: #compiz-fusion06:16
_aeGIsh00k:  nice...  not sure that will work though without the informations. ;)06:16
doug2266778822thanks06:16
nickrudAlives /etc/hosts messed up?06:16
Alivesnope06:16
Alivesfirst entry is 127.0.0.1 localhost06:16
nickrudAlives you're running your own mail server?06:16
gogetatherealnanotube guis spoil you and hear you are lol06:16
Alivesno06:16
h00k_aeGIs, yeah, I definitely deleted the email and don't remember, there are a few free ones left, most you have to apply or tell them you want one06:17
Alivesits sendmail fwding to my isp's relay smtp06:17
benanzowhat command can I use to find the full http URL of a dep package in a repo?  using: "apt-cache show PKG" doesn't give it to me06:17
h00k_aeGIs, I just got one to experiement with it, I never really used it.06:17
nickrudAlives then it's sendmail (shudder). #ubuntu-server might be able to help, or find the sendmail channel06:17
Aliveshmm06:17
Alivesok thanks06:17
_aeGIsh00k: that's what I'm finding... it's painful!06:17
nickrudbenanzo apt-cache policy06:17
DreamlessAnyone knows what time the new ubuntu will be on the FTP server?06:18
doug2266778822hmm how do i make it read/write  perminatly for my ext3 mounted on /dev/sda1?06:18
nickrudAlives I say that because mostly it's desktop users here, most use their isp's directly with their email client.06:18
h00k_aeGIs, http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml06:18
therealnanotubelekremyelsew: maybe this thread will be of help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-338457.html06:19
Zackymc_khay06:19
doug2266778822 hmm how do i make it read/write  perminatly for my ext3 mounted on /dev/sda1?06:19
nickruddoug2266778822 who do you want to be able to read/write there? Are you the only user?06:19
doug2266778822nickryes i am06:19
therealnanotubeDreamless: go for the torrent, not for the ftp - save the servers! :)06:20
h00ktherealnanotube: good call (y)06:20
benanzoI'm looking for it to show something like: http://example.com/path/to/pkg.deb06:20
doug2266778822nickrud: yes i i am06:20
kaska#tychy06:20
benanzonot just the repo address06:20
MarupaI've got an ISO that's not an ISO, how would I check which type it is, so I can transcode it to iso so I can burn it?06:20
_aeGIsh00k:thanks06:20
lekremyelsewtherealnanotube: thx06:20
Zackymc_kdoes anyone know how to get the wifi working in the tx1000? oh 64bit ubuntu?06:20
doug2266778822nickrud: i am only user of this comp since it is mine.06:20
nickruddoug2266778822 then after it's mounted, do   sudo chown <you>:<you> /path/to/mountpoint , you'll own the partition and can use it freely06:20
h00k_aeGIs: hope that helps06:20
nickruddoug2266778822 yeah, but you might have kin with accounts on it ;)06:20
Nick123kust installe ubuntu how dop i check all hardware is installed06:21
doug2266778822nickrud: its on my desktop the name is /home/doug/desktop/stuff06:21
haohi there06:21
nickrudNick123 try using it? lspci lists all the pci cards, lsusb will show the usb devices06:21
megeriaMarupa: try "file filename" and see what type of file it say it is06:21
h00kNick123: System -> Preferences > Hardware Information  might be of use, too06:22
nickruddoug2266778822 then after it's mounted, do   sudo chown doug:doug /home/doug/desktop/stuff  , you'll own the partition and can use it freely06:22
doug2266778822nickrud: i did it sayes no suck bash06:22
Nick123how do i tell if all the drivers are installed laptop working good06:22
h00kNick123: test the hardware ;)06:22
doug2266778822nickrud: chown: cannot access `/home/doug/desktop/stuff': No such file or directory06:22
Nick123hook: how06:23
nickruddoug2266778822 then that's not where it's at.06:23
Marupamegeria, It says 'data'06:23
h00kNick123: which hardware are you looking in particular? for wireless, try to connect to a wireless device06:23
doug2266778822nickrud: thats what it sayes for the name its open where i can see it06:23
h00kNick123: for microphone, try recording, etc06:23
Nick123hook: yea my wireless not working06:23
h00k!HCL | Nick12306:23
ubotuNick123: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection06:23
patifadoug2266778822: it's literally called 'stuff'?06:23
phuzionOk, so I have gnome, and the area by my clock in the top task bar is screwed up, icons are ghosting over one another and such.  Is there a way to restart this to clean it up?06:23
prettyrickyWhere can I get audio /x -asf, trying to play a video I downloaded but says I dont have thisinstalled06:24
thykoand ive been using kde for like 4 years, so the fact that i want to switch doesnt say much for it06:24
doug2266778822patifa yes06:24
nickruddoug2266778822 do ls /media , that's where the disk is really mounted if you didn't manually add the partition to the /etc/fstab06:24
h00kphuzion: You can try to log out and back in06:25
nickrudphuzion try   alt-f2 killall gnome-panel06:25
qwertyuiopever since i tried to uninstall VirtualBox, my package manager wont work. it says VirtualBox needs to be reinstalled and it can't find a package for it.06:25
doug2266778822lol nickrudsorry jack_sparrow had me give it mydrive as well06:25
doug2266778822nickrud: but on the icon it shows /home/doug/Desktop/stuff06:26
phuzionnickrud, that worked, but now I have 2 Wine System Tray Adapter applications down at the bottom of my screen...06:26
megeriaMarupa: you could look at it in a hex editor and see if that give you some clues where did you get the iso image from?06:26
nickruddoug2266778822 yeah, having gnome place disks in /media on your desktop is pretty nice, but it can be misleading :)06:26
NeoGeo64hello where can i find a leaked copy of 8.04 final06:26
unop:)06:26
Marupamegeria, torrent site, and I don't know of any hex editors in linux.  I'm still pretty new.06:26
nickrudphuzion I don't know much at all about wine, sorry06:26
nickrudNeoGeo64 funny ;)06:26
prettyrickyWhere can I get audio /x -asf, trying to play a video I downloaded but says I dont have thisinstalled06:27
h00kNeoGeo64: that's pretty good :)06:27
unopNeoGeo64, you can upgrade already06:27
doug2266778822so nickrud what shall i type thn?06:27
NeoGeo64How can I ensure that my copy of Ubuntu 8.04 is genuine?06:27
nickrudprettyricky try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras , it may be in there06:27
Boohbah!restricted | prettyricky06:27
ubotuprettyricky: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:27
nickrudNeoGeo64 trolling is not encouraged06:27
prettyrickyty06:27
unopNeoGeo64, there is a patch floating out there somewhere :)06:28
NeoGeo64I also need an Ubuntu keygen.06:28
nickrudNeoGeo64 but to answer your question, compare the md5sum to the md5sum of your downloaded iso06:28
NeoGeo64lol ok06:28
h00k.....Ubuntu keygen.06:28
megeriaMarupa: try something like "head -c 1024 filename | hexdump -C"06:28
NeoGeo64is it true ubuntu needs to be activated06:28
unopNeoGeo64, stop that now06:29
h00kNeoGeo64: yeah, I heard about that.06:29
nickrudNeoGeo64 please stop with the trolling questions06:29
BoohbahNeoGeo64: no, i've never heard that before, it sounds like you just made it up06:29
Marupamegeria, I get  |................|06:29
NeoGeo64i heard its a $20 one time fee to load up the first time06:29
h00kNeoGeo64: It's the Authentic Activation System they stole from microsoft06:29
h00kand renamed it06:29
Nick123when i try an install kplot on my laptop it says "KmPlot cannont be installed on your computer type (i389)"06:29
nickrudNeoGeo64 stop now06:29
megeriaMarupa: is the left side 00 00 00 00 ...?06:29
BoohbahNeoGeo64: i hear yer gonna get banned06:29
Lowkey420Hey can anyone help me configure my download manager to work with my rapid share premium account to download multiple files?06:29
Marupamegeria, all zeros.06:29
doug2266778822nickrud:  so what should i type in now? then .06:29
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* nickrud hates doing that, so really really really wants NeoGeo64 to stop06:30
NeoGeo64lol did you all hear about microsoft's msn music servers shutting down06:30
Nick123when i try an install kplot on my laptop it says "KmPlot cannont be installed on your computer type (i389)"06:30
NeoGeo64leaving people with useless crap06:30
unopnickrud, do it.06:30
qwertyuiop"E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."06:30
megeriaMarupa: well then its some jokers idea of a iso file = fake lol06:30
qwertyuiopwhat do i do?06:30
yuri_hey guys, i flash does not play properly in konqueror. i have the ns-plugins installed and flash in firefox works fine.. any fixes?06:30
nickruddoug2266778822 depends on what it says your devices are in /media . try right clicking the desktop icon, and looking for the mount point in the dialog window06:30
Marupamegeria, Ooops.  I grabbed the wrong file.  Sorry.  Lemme grab the right one.06:31
jribqwertyuiop: find an archive for it (hint: virtualbox.org)06:31
NeoGeo64Can someone tell me how FreeBSD compares to Ubuntu?06:31
Marupamegeria, |ROWE08..........|06:31
nxusrAnyone understand why on resume from s2ram, the time is wrong?06:31
* h00k thanks nickrud 06:31
nickrudNeoGeo64 last warning06:31
NeoGeo64was i kicked?06:31
NeoGeo64oh06:31
NeoGeo64it didnt say anything06:31
unop!ot06:31
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:31
jribNeoGeo64: do you understand that this channel is for ubuntu support only?06:32
NeoGeo64my b06:32
doug2266778822nickrud: mount point options and file system and mount options are blank06:32
nickruddoug2266778822 ok, ls /media , put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:32
sap!hardy06:32
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!06:32
* h00k joins the party. heh.06:33
megeriaMarupa: doesn't seems like a image header to me, sorry no real good idea without looking at the rest of the file06:33
zero-coolhave anybody web cam CP-220006:33
doug2266778822nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64072/06:33
BoohbahNeoGeo64: did you hear about vi and emacs? yeah... they're both text editors...06:33
zero-coolyes06:33
nickruddoug2266778822  sudo chown doug:doug /media/mydrive06:34
zero-coolthis is the tex editors06:34
Marupamegeria, not even a nrg, or anything?06:34
nickruddoug2266778822 be sure to do that with the partition mounted already06:34
qwertyuiop"Could not open 'virtualbox_1.5.6-28266_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb"06:34
doug2266778822nickrud:  Thank you so much so sorry for the pain and trouble.06:34
jribqwertyuiop: what version of ubuntu are you using?06:35
qwertyuiop7.0406:35
nickruddoug2266778822 no problem, you learned a bit ;)06:35
cordenhello guys, just want to ask how many hours left before the official release will be?06:35
Nick123Anyone know how i can check if hardware not installed06:35
Boohbahqwertyuiop: upgrade?06:35
megeriaMarupa: not ringing a bell, nrg is just an iso image with the mode/sector size header06:35
jribqwertyuiop: where did you download that .deb to?06:35
qwertyuiopthat's what i was trying to do06:35
nickrudNick123 what kind of hardware in particular?06:35
doug2266778822nickrud: now how to figure out hwo to make the windows stop sticking to the bars and sides lol.06:35
qwertyuiopi tried to upgrade but it wouldn't let me with the wine and virtualbox i had installed06:35
Boohbahqwertyuiop: i don't think they package that version of virtualbox for feisty06:35
Nick123nickrud: just installed ubuntu and want to check if everything is installed06:36
nickruddoug2266778822 install compizconfig-settings-manager first06:36
qwertyuiopso i uninstalled wine and tried to uninstall virtualbox06:36
doug2266778822nickrud: lol done that06:36
nickrudNick123 try using it?06:36
h00kjrib: I think he lost his package manager06:36
qwertyuiopon the virtualbox website where you choose your download by OS i chose Ubuntu 1.0706:36
Nick123nickrud: wireless not working06:36
qwertyuiop7.0406:36
Nick123nickrud: how do u get t goign im a newbie06:36
nxusrAnyone understand why on resume from s2ram, the time is wrong?06:37
jrib!enter | qwertyuiop06:37
qwertyuiop"Ubuntu 7.04 ("Feisty Fawn") i386"06:37
ubotuqwertyuiop: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:37
NeoGeo64Is Ubuntu compatible with quad core processors?06:37
cordenjust what exact time 8.04 will be available?06:37
hischildis it possible to fix grub from an alternate CD?06:37
jribqwertyuiop: double click on the deb you downloaded06:37
nickruddoug2266778822 do you have wobbly windows ?06:37
jribcorden: when it is ready06:37
NeoGeo64It's a 64bit intel w/ 4 cores but can i run 32bit ubuntu or should i run 64bit ubuntu?06:37
nickrud!wireless | Nick123 start here for wireless06:37
ubotuNick123 start here for wireless: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:37
doug2266778822nickrud:  i have unchecked the snaps and yes i do .06:37
cordenjrib, oic, cause we can't wait to install :)06:38
qwertyuiopwhen i double click it i get the error ""Could not open 'virtualbox_1.5.6-28266_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb"06:38
megeriaNeoGeo64: either one would do, as long as the kernel have SMP support compile in06:38
nickruddoug2266778822 did you uncheck snap inverted in wobbly windows?06:38
jrib!who | qwertyuiop06:38
ubotuqwertyuiop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)06:38
hischildNeoGeo64, you can run both the 32bit and 64bit version.06:38
jribqwertyuiop: ok, where did you download it to?06:38
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NeoGeo64Should I run the 64bit version?06:39
doug2266778822nickrud: snap windows in wobly is uncheked.06:39
Benjamin_LIs there any reason why fspot it really slow to use on my amd 3400+? tagging raws takes ages, etc.06:39
Boohbah!linux | NeoGeo6406:39
ubotuNeoGeo64: Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux06:39
nickruddoug2266778822 do you have snapping windows turned on under window management?06:39
qwertyuiopjrib: I downloaded it to /home/<username>/Downloads/06:39
doug2266778822nickrud: nope lol its kinda weird huh.06:39
NeoGeo64that doesnt help much lol06:39
nickrudBenjamin_L it's mono based, ver slow :)06:40
jribqwertyuiop: open a terminal, cd there, and use sudo dpkg -i name_of_deb06:40
hischildNeoGeo64, unless there's a reason (like 64bit programs, >4gb ram, etc) i suggest 32bit06:40
nickruddoug2266778822 try asking in #compiz-fusion, I don't use compiz myself (just experimented long enough to know I don't need it)06:40
BoohbahNeoGeo64: learn to read lol06:40
nickrudBoohbah if you're gonna help, be sure to give real info06:41
doug2266778822nickrud: they are not able to find out lol me personally i like beryl more06:41
Benjamin_Lnickrud: Would be really nice to organise my 30000+ images with it, but the overall feeling is not that great06:41
Boohbahnickrud: ok06:41
h00kBenjamin_L: I use Picasa from Google to organize my images- it's quite slick06:41
doug2266778822does anyone use wine?06:42
doug2266778822i need help on getting a .exe game to work in it.06:42
Frederickfolks why would the pics in my web browser look like if they were set a low definition? like aliases I think06:42
thykomy my, this gnome is not bad atall!06:43
nxusrWhen i resume from s2ram, the minute is correct but the hour is wrong06:43
nickruddoug2266778822 you could try resetting all the compiz settings,  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/compiz will reset it to defaults06:44
h00kFrederick: which browser?06:44
Frederickh00k: firefox06:44
`KoRnHi I jus bought a dell inspiron 1525 and i want to install the hardy heron do u think it would be ok?06:44
fosl3eis there any way to do a fresh install of ubuntu, but still keep all my files06:44
nickrud`KoRn #ubuntu+1 is handling hardy questions until release,  /j #ubuntu+106:45
qwertyuiopjrib: I love you O_O06:45
fosl3ei screwed up a lot of the configs06:45
doug2266778822nickrud:  thanks i will try it06:45
h00kFrederick: sometimes it scales the thumbnail down, you can try to click on it and it generally enlarges it06:45
jribqwertyuiop: no problem :)06:45
fosl3ei love you all plz have my babies06:45
nickrudfosl3e you should do a backup of your user home directory, that would keep all your personal settings.06:45
fosl3eya06:45
fosl3ei dont want my settings06:45
fosl3ei just wanna make sure that my songs dont get erased06:46
fosl3ei screwed up the configs06:46
`KoRnok thanks , how about gutsy gibbons?06:46
Frederickh00k: where do I set up font aliasing in ubuntu?06:46
test_user_btxwindow list06:47
nickrud`KoRn sure, it will work. You might have wireless or video config to do, (and maybe sound) but otherwise it supports just about all hardware06:47
fosl3ehello06:47
nickrud!laptop | `KoRn might have some details06:47
ubotu`KoRn might have some details: Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org06:47
h00kFrederick: System -> Preferences -> Appearance06:47
h00kFrederick: Font tab06:48
test_user_btxexit06:48
`KoRnnickrud: thnx06:48
mathewAnybody happen to have a copy of prey?  I need to know what the file structure is.  One of my disks got damaged, and I need to know where i need to put the files from the other disks.06:48
Frederickh00k: sorry im in kubuntu wrong channel :/06:48
test_user_btxnope :(06:49
h00kFrederick: no prob.  Good luck06:49
cordenguys just a quick question what burning software for ubuntu?06:49
nickrudcorden gnomebaker , k3b are the most used ones06:49
cordentnx, i guess I installed does softwares already tnx.06:50
fosl3e!offtopic06:50
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:50
fosl3e!offtopic mathew06:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic mathew - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:50
fosl3e!offtopic06:51
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FloodBot2fosl3e: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.06:51
fosl3e?06:51
nickrudfosl3e FloodBot2 was a warning, don't do that again.06:51
sen_ubuntu06:51
doug2266778822is there a wine channel?06:51
fosl3edude shut up lol06:51
nickrudfosl3e behave yourself06:51
fosl3elulz06:52
mrakhello there06:52
* h00k waves06:52
mrakwhere i find list of changes 7.10 vs 8.0406:52
mathewIt's not an off topic thing...  I'm trying to install it on ubuntu?06:53
nickrudmathew you might find some people in #ubuntu-offtopic who have that06:53
doug2266778822is there a wine room chan? for support?06:53
mathewThank you nickrud06:53
nickruddoug2266778822 #winehq06:53
doug2266778822nickrud: thank u so much06:54
mrakdoug2266778822: join to #wine06:54
mrak;)06:54
mathewAt least you didn't try to flood me with ubotu...06:54
nickrud!welcome | mathew :)06:54
ubotumathew :): Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.06:54
andcorpshello06:54
andcorpseveryone06:54
andcorpsneed to know 1 single fact06:54
zerlneogood day guys, i just want to ask if you can use/install beryl w/o net connection?06:55
doug2266778822mrak: thank u as well06:55
nickrud!beryl | zerlneo06:55
ubotuzerlneo: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz06:55
mrakdoug2266778822: np06:55
andcorpsdoes 7D the archive manager really works in ubuntu06:55
zerlneoso how can i use compiz-fusion w/o net connection/06:55
mrak!help06:55
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zerlneo?06:55
nickrudzerlneo if you have 7.10, compiz is already installed06:56
crdlbzerlneo: what video card?06:56
zerlneoyes its alreay installed but the effects are limited06:56
zerlneoi can run the cube06:56
andcorpsjust need to install the extra plugin if u graphic cards are capable06:56
andcorpsu have to download some from the web06:57
andcorpsbut i also doesnt know how to run in on my lappy06:57
zerlneocan i get some link here?06:57
andcorpshahha06:57
DanikarPNzerlneo: There is a compiz-config or some such package in Synaptic06:57
crdlbzerlneo: you need compizconfig-settings-manager, but it's not on the cd06:57
shthap3nshello everyone! i'm curious: i'm setting up a local storage server for a business. i'm thinking linux would be a good choice (for stability). problem is, i'm sort of a linux n00b. can anyone point me to good documentation on setting up firewalls, shared network drives, and setting up raid on hard drives?06:57
mrak!search heron06:57
ubotuFound: hardy, heron, schedule-#ubuntu+1, final, khardy06:57
nickrudcrdlb is python-compiz on the disk? (don't have one to check)06:57
crdlbnickrud: python-compizconfig is in universe, so no06:58
nickrudcrdlb so he needs that as well then06:58
crdlbyes06:58
zerlneocrdlb, my problem is i dont have a net connection to my house... so i cant update them... thats why im asking if is it possible to use compiz fusion w/o net06:58
andcorpshmmm..need to know how to install the extra plugins..06:59
zerlneoil just download here in cafe station then save it in my flash drive06:59
nickrudzerlneo packages.ubuntu.com, you can search for those two packages and download them on another machine (make sure you get the ones for your machine architecture) and install them06:59
crdlbzerlneo: you can't go to a neighbor's house and put two .deb packages on a cd?06:59
andcorpsdid d load the tar balls..06:59
chronosIs it possible for me to see my saved passwords in Gnome?06:59
andcorpsbut doesnt know how to operate them..sorry but i'm new with all this scripting07:00
tokaylaim getting massive iowait problems often stoping me from even sshing into my box.. but the crazy thing is the only thing running is rtorrent downloading to a 1.5tb lvm partion... on ubuntu server any ideas what the problem could be?07:00
nickrudchronos seahorse has support for that in hardy, but not in gutsy iirc07:00
icanhasj07:00
chronosWonderful, I'm running hardy nickrud. How do I see it?07:00
timsandtomsQuick question, I'm going to reformat in a couple of days(Currently have 7.10, going to put either 7.10/8.04 and WinXP Pro on). What are the major differences between 8.04 and 7.10? Also, does it normally go *.04, *.10 for version numbers(And why does it?)07:00
andcorpsso...anyone..since the topic now is more on compiz...07:01
nickrudchronos install seahorse, then run it. your passwords are on the password tab07:01
crdlbtimsandtoms: the version number is the date. Year.Month07:01
unopshthap3ns, maybe this'll give you a start - it's not complete or comprehensive, but you can always extrapolate - http://howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.1007:01
timsandtomscrdlb: Ah, never noticed that! Thanks.07:01
andcorpshello ..07:01
Samus_Arananyone know why /etc/init.d/pulseaudio does nothing at all ?  it just returns me to the command line, no errors07:02
andcorpshow do i emulate my tar ballss07:02
Samus_AranI mean, stop, start, restart07:02
shthap3nsunop: thanks! do you recommend i make a post on the ubuntuforums?07:02
nickrudandcorps basic compiz here, plugins not in ubuntu in #compiz-fusion :)07:02
h00kSamus_Aran: because you are actually starting, stopping, and restarting the service07:02
andcorpsthanks07:02
unopshthap3ns, i'm not sure i follow, how do you mean post?07:02
timsandtomscrdlb: Do you happen to know what the differences are in the new version?07:02
shthap3nsunop: oh, i meant if i wanted to get more information, maybe a post on the forums might be better than IRC?07:03
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unopshthap3ns, sure, but before you do that, you might want to point google at the ubuntu forums, there's bound to be people who have already done something like what you have done - just to avoid some duplicity07:04
orudieeast coast in da house !07:04
nickrudduplicity? you don't mean the forums re duplicious do you?07:04
timsandtomsCoupla questions: What are the major differences between 7.10 and 8.04? I don't know much about Linux, but is there anything your average Joe Ipod would notice? Also, whats a good MSN messenger with webcam support(Mostly just receiving cams)07:05
shthap3nsunop: will do, thanks07:05
unopnickrud, ohh no, they're kinda well structured with all kinds of revision control, bug-trackers, etc :) j/k07:06
nickrudunop ah, you mean like the rest of the web. Ok, I'm reassured07:06
h00ktimsandtoms: I use aMSN that supports camming ability07:06
timsandtomsh00k: Ah, ok, thanks :) I'll get that.07:07
aronzakDoes anyone know if there is any way to mount a cryptfs file in windows?07:07
unoparonzak, not sure this is the place to ask such a question - try ##windows07:08
nickrudtimsandtoms http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc has some highlights07:08
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nickrudunop see you thursday (I hope you don't go hide under rock :)07:10
timsandtomsnickrud: Ah, cool, thanks. So pretty much some improvements on the old stuff, but nothing drasticaly new?07:10
unophe left07:10
chazcoHi... how can I install quake 3 on 7.10?07:11
doug2266778822i know its off the wall but does anyone in here use wine with gaming?07:11
Wafflechazco,  check out wine07:12
Waffle!wine | chazco07:12
ubotuchazco: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.07:12
chazcoWaffle - Theres a native Linux version07:12
Waffleohh07:12
Waffleright07:12
Wafflejk07:12
h00kchazco: #winehq07:12
Wafflechazco, aptitude has quake3 arena data files, but it says you need the cd and an internet connection07:13
chazcoI have the CD... will give it a try07:14
Wafflechazco, try aptitude search quake07:14
Wafflechazco, and aptitude show quake3-data07:14
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ecubuntuanybody can help me with my wireless network on Hardy07:15
DanikarPNIs there a way to SSH into an open session?07:15
tokaylaDanikarPN, google screen07:15
tokaylaor screen + ubuntu07:16
Waffleecubuntu, check out #ubuntu+107:17
Waffle!hardy | ecubuntu07:17
ubotuecubuntu: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!07:17
DanikarPNtokayla: Hmm, read breifly just now. Ill look into that. Thanks.07:18
akornhey can anybody tell me how i can get my GTK theme to override emerald?07:19
prohnaanyone use irssi?07:19
prohnai cant figure out how to change the color of the statusbars07:19
powertool08prohna: i do07:19
phazemanprohna: i use the irssi, but i never wanted to change the status bar color lol :)07:20
prohnayou know the blue bars that show up on the top and bottom of the screen07:20
prohnai wanna make them black07:20
volandhi all07:20
powertool08prohna: i've only been using it a few days, haven't changed the colors up other than with preset themes07:20
phazemanpowertool08: have you been looking on irssi.org  ?07:20
prohnafor some reason themes wont change the statusbar color lol07:20
powertool08phazeman: yes07:21
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phazemanpowertool08: loko here http://www.irssi.org/themefiles/parenthetical.theme07:22
StPatrickHello all!07:22
powertool08prohna: maybe you don't have the right theme?07:22
ozzloyhow do i see what files were installed when i did aptitude install vim-latexsuite ?07:22
jribozzloy: dpkg -L, but why...?07:23
sdakakWhen is the release party? :-)07:24
tonyyarussosdakak: #ubuntu-release-party07:24
sdakaktonyyarusso: thank you.07:24
ozzloyjrib: i installed vim-latexsuite and i'm reading the documentation for it online.  there should be a file ~/.vim/doc/latex-suite-quickstart.txt but there is not07:25
ozzloyjrib: so i want to see what _was_ installed07:25
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jribozzloy: that's only if you install it to your ~ manually07:25
PiONeeRplease help me!07:25
ozzloyjrib: yeah, so i want to see what did install so i can get just the stuff i need for ~07:26
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PiONeeRhow to install netbeans 6.0.1 on Ubuntu 7.10?07:26
ozzloyalso i've never used it before, so i don't really know what i'm doing07:26
ozzloyPiONeeR: sudo aptitude install netbeans07:26
sdakak!ltsp07:26
ubotuLTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project07:26
ozzloyPiONeeR: sudo aptitude install netbeans5.507:26
jribozzloy: no, you don't need to do that.  Just do :he latex-suite.txt if you want to read it.  If you want to enable the addon, you should use the vim-addons command07:27
PiONeeRi'm just install netbeans, but i can't find executable program in /opt07:27
ozzloyjrib: there is no "latex-suite.txt"07:27
lwizardlhi07:27
ozzloyi don't know the vim-addons command07:27
lwizardlhow can i enable dual display on my ati 9200?07:28
jribozzloy: did you use vim-addons?07:28
ozzloyjrib: nope.  i don't know what that is07:28
phazemanozzloy:su to root, then #updatedb && locate latex-suite-quickstart07:28
phazemanozzloy: this will find all the files with this name on your HD07:29
jribozzloy: read 'man vim-addons'07:29
marvxxxcan i upgrade ubuntu from cd?07:29
phazemanoh lol.. root issues.. thought i'm in madrake :) ozzloy: sudo updatedb && locate latex-suite-quickstart07:30
ozzloyphazeman: lol, i translated.  it's going07:30
EvoxVIIIhello everyone.07:30
EvoxVIIII need some help with Ubuntu 8.0407:30
EvoxVIIII know its a beta.07:31
jribphazeman: there's no point in doing that07:31
dystopianrayEvoxVIII: go to #ubuntu+107:31
phazemanjrib: doing what ?07:31
phazemanjrib: locate ?07:31
jribphazeman: yes07:31
ozzloyjrib: no man entry for vim-addons07:31
phazemanjrib: if he isntalled the package the file should be there. if not - sudo apt-get install vim-addons07:31
jribozzloy: what version of ubuntu?07:32
ozzloy7.1007:32
jribozzloy: install the 'vim-addon-manager' package07:32
ozzloywhy would that not be somehow linked to vim-latexsuite?  (i'm assuming at this point that v-ls falls in the category of vim-addons)07:33
ozzloyjrib: ok installed that07:33
jribozzloy: now run vim-addons07:34
ozzloyvim-addons install latexsuite;#ignoring unknown addon latexsuite07:35
jribozzloy: you need a -07:35
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ozzloyicic07:35
ozzloyjrib: \0/07:36
ozzloythanks07:36
Samus_Aranh00k: it does not say "starting blah" like with all the other services, and it does not start anything07:36
Samus_Arane.g. if you start Apache or NFS, it tells you "restarting nfs-kernel-server. stopping, starting. done."07:36
Samus_Aranthis simply exits the script07:37
jribozzloy: no problem, that surprised me too when it first came up07:37
Samus_Aranand doesn't produce any sound multiplexing07:37
juliusHello07:37
juliusdoes anyone know where I can find a promotionnal "poster" (not sure of this word) for the release of hardy ?07:38
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Bidgetcan someone help me install a program thats not in the repository?07:39
dystopianrayBidget: what program?07:39
Bidgetg15daemon07:39
BidgetI have it in a tar.gz, which ive extracted, but im not sure exactly where to go from here07:40
dystopianrayBidget: do you have to compile it?07:40
Bidgethmmm07:40
Bidgetgood question07:40
Bidgetprobably07:40
Bidgetoh hey theres a readme in there one sec, maybe I dont need help after all hahaha07:41
jribBidget: g15daemon is in hardy, just wait a day07:41
Bidgetoh it is??07:41
Bidgetheellls yeah07:41
Bidgetcause I have all these things that I downloaded to try to get my g15 to work haha07:42
Bidgetmanaged to install 2 of them but the other 2 were giving me errors and I couldnt figure it out07:42
Bidgetonto my next question, Ive installed gnomebaker and Im wondering how to burn an mp3 cd that will work in my car cd player07:43
radoenhi all07:43
snaskradeon? lol what a name07:43
radoenehhe07:44
radoeni've trouble whit a mous on hurdy07:44
jribradoen: hardy support in #ubuntu+107:44
radoenin few word mouse don't work whit hurdy packager on kernel 2.6.2407:44
radoenah ok07:44
juliusnoone know where I can find something to print & promote Ubuntu in my school ? :/07:45
HamelinPerhaps someone could help me, I'm having difficulty getting Samba to work07:47
DanikarPNHamelin: What issues u having?07:48
AdemoSSo will Ubuntu Hardy install Pulse Audio by default?07:56
AdemoSBecause I read some worrying things about it here: http://artipc10.vub.ac.be/serendipity/archives/50-Bye-Bye-PulseAudio.html07:56
zerlneoguys, can i run games or application in crossover but i dont have a cd installer.. its already extracted in my backup drives07:57
HamelinAh, sorry DanikarPN, I missed your message because of all the join/quit messages. My problem is my shared folders don't show up on any windows machines. But, if I browse the workgroup computers in windows, I can see this computer, and if I doubleclick the icon it prompts me for some sort of login that doesn't seem to do anything. My user or root password certainly doesn't log into it07:57
zerlneolike warcraft frozen throne, its already in my backup game folders07:58
andcorpshi07:58
HamelinI know samba works because I can print on the shared printer connected to my roommate's windows xp pc07:58
andcorpsits me again07:58
andcorpsokay this time just wonder07:58
andcorpsdoes ubuntu need to software for clearing cache from internet and temp files07:59
cgentry72could someone guide me on how to install the drivers for a broadcom wireless card07:59
dystopianrayandcorps: open firefox, go to 'tools -> clear private data'07:59
zerlneoguys, can i run games or application in crossover but i dont have a cd installer.. its already extracted in my backup drives07:59
andcorpsokie dokie07:59
doug2266778822ok i downloaded install_flash_player_9_linux i cd, to it and do ./ sososo it comes back with error ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the07:59
doug2266778822       Adobe Flash Player installer.07:59
doug2266778822 07:59
dystopianraydoug2266778822: there is no 64-bit flash player, also why are you not installing the one from the repos?08:00
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HamelinI'm fairly sure there's documentation about wireless card installation in the ubuntu docs08:00
doug2266778822dystopianray:  lol forgot about that haha and im on 64 O.O08:00
cgentry72Hamelin, can i get to that from the menu08:01
Hamelinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation08:01
Hamelintry searching in there08:02
cgentry72Hamelin, ok thank you08:02
Hamelinthere's a lot of info in the user docs08:02
Chris[]Really odd situation, just out of nowhere... none of my mysql users have any privileges except for view.. including root. How could I reset root's privileges?08:02
zerlneohey guys, i downloaded avast for ubuntu, then i install... after that.. where can i see that avast icon? doesnt appear on the top panel menus08:04
Bidgethey if a program crashes how do I end it?08:04
Bidgetits just kinda frozen on my desktop haha08:04
Guillaum3greets gents.08:04
powertool08Bidget: try xkill, then click the offending window08:04
dystopianrayBidget: alt+fx, type 'xkill' click on the app08:05
Bidgetbrownie points on a quick answer cause its an mmo and I reaallly dont want to die08:05
dystopianrayBidget: alt+f2 i mean08:05
Bidgetok08:05
Guillaum3do we have a time for the release of 8.0408:05
powertool08Bidget: you can also kill it via top in a terminal08:05
Bidgetah thank you dystopianray that worked like a charm08:05
dystopianrayGuillaum3: april 2408:05
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Guillaum3time ;)08:05
dystopianrayGuillaum3: sometimein the afternoon08:05
Guillaum3boo!08:05
dystopianrayGuillaum3: GMT+108:05
dystopianraythat's my guess anyway08:06
Guillaum3yah its a ZA thing08:06
blackvdjoin #ubuntu-release-party08:06
sorsisBidget: with 'ps' from console you can see PID of process and with 'kill <pid>' you kan kill a process08:06
blackvdoops08:06
dystopianrayGuillaum3: ZA?08:06
Guillaum3south africa08:06
sorsisBidget: or then you can use some applet to kill frozen window.08:06
HamelinAnyone here able to help me with my Samba issues?08:06
Guillaum3wanted to put it on in the morning so i can have it when i get home08:07
Guillaum3lost a drive recently and i`m running vista till hardy is out08:07
Guillaum3its been 2 weeks now :(...08:07
dystopianrayGuillaum3: if you download the latest daily build of the livecd it may possible be what becomes the final release08:07
Chris[]nevermind..08:07
Guillaum3cool08:08
ichatawwww - i realllly feel sorry for you... Guillaum3  - - cuz that must seriously be HELL08:08
Guillaum3while i`m here08:08
JPSmanWhat is the difference between my two Kernel choices on my grub?  How does it load Ubuntu differently?  is it just like swapping car engines?08:08
khaije1dystopianray: thats exactly what i was going to ask about...08:08
Guillaum3i need an opensource video transcoder for windows08:08
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Guillaum3i`m sure something must have been ported with gtk08:08
dystopianraykhaije1: about daily livecd builds?08:08
sorsisJPSman: something like that.08:08
patifaGuillaum3: Depends on what those choices are08:09
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yowshianyone know a really good programme that will record from a webcam? as well as audio at the same time?08:09
Guillaum3choices?08:09
sorsisJPSman: newer has a security update so there is no significant difference.08:09
patifaWell, if it's a choice between a kernel and the same kernel with (recovery mode), it's the 'same engine'08:09
khaije1dystopianray: right, and since it's probably set to be released in less than 36 hours, if there is any significant difference between the daily build and the 'official' release08:09
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JPSmanSorsis: there is for my internet connection :OD   2.6.24 is really buggy with wireless drivers.    Yet 2.6.22 has failed with my graphics card08:10
dystopianraykhaije1: i suspect their won't be, unless there is another build made, which i doubt08:10
patifaOn the other hand, Guillaum, if it's a completely different version, the engine analogy is quite decent.08:10
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ichatkhaije1:  -  if you dont coun't the security fixes  ;)08:11
dystopianraykhaije1: for the last two releases i've downloaded the latest daily builds before the official releases, and they have been identical to the final isos (same md5) and i avoided the slow mirrors on release day08:11
cgentry72I'm really not used to gnome but how do i check to see what broadcom card i have08:11
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khaije1dystopianray: that sounds pretty good to me08:11
HamelinOh, we can update straight to the new version of Ubuntu from the previous version yes? That'll keep all my settings how they are, yes?08:11
patifaOn release day you might as well download on bittorrent08:11
khaije1dystopianray: how early in advance did you grab the iso's?08:11
Hamelincgentry72 try preferences > hardware information08:12
dystopianraykhaije1: i don't remember exactly, probably the day before08:12
Guillaum3kubuntu release on the same date?08:12
cgentry72Hamelin, ok thanks08:12
dystopianraykhaije1: i'm grabbing the latest build right now actually of hardy08:12
ichatpatifa:  -  and why on release day yes and on other days no ?08:12
Guillaum3i use gnome @ the office, kde would be a nice change of pace for home08:12
cgentry72Hamelin, sorry no hardware information icon08:13
khaije1dystopianray: when was that last changed, cuz i grabbed the one from 24hrs ago for a seperate issue, maybe i could even use that08:13
powertool08cgentry72: try $lspci08:13
Hamelinin the task menu, under system?08:13
keegan83ciao a tutti08:13
cgentry72powertool08, ok thanks08:13
dystopianraykhaije1: the latest is 2008042308:13
khaije1dystopianray: hmm... i wonder... they are all dist-upgradable anyway arent they?08:15
dystopianraykhaije1: that's right08:15
dystopianraykhaije1: at worst you'll be a few updated packages away from the 'final'08:15
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phazemancan someone please post a keyborad configuration part of xorg.conf with more  then 1 language configured ? thanks a lot in advance08:15
khaije1dystopianray: linux r0x0r hard08:15
HamelinHow much is my computer going to have to download if I upgrade to the newest version from Gutsy using the update manager?08:15
cgentry72Hamelin, sorry no hardware information there :(08:16
powertool08dystopianray: i'm using 7.04 can i skip gutsy without a reinstall or will the upgrade force me to get gutsy first then hardy?08:16
Guillaum3yeah thats another thing08:16
khaije1dystopianray: i dont mean to be juvenile, but it's true nonetheless08:16
Guillaum3can you just upgrade?08:16
Guillaum3via apt or something08:16
Guillaum3saw an apt-updated a couple of days ago, mebby it has something to do with it08:17
Guillaum3from 7 -> 8 i mean08:17
dystopianraypowertool08: i don't know, sorry08:18
ichati wonder if its possible to upgrade  by cdrom  (saves you a lot of download - when re-installing  )08:18
Hamelinit's possible to upgrade with apt, you need to open it with an extra command, I saw it on the docs08:19
WaffleHey, I am having problems playing .mpg videos, any help?08:21
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oupaHello, I'm having a problem sharing a printer. The printer is attached to a Kubuntu system and I am trying to access it from an Ubuntu system. It was all happening automatically, but now it doesn't show08:23
ExlaxIs there any way to capture my screen to video? to show compiz effects etc?08:24
powertool08Exlax: i think xvidcap will do the job08:26
fation_linuXgood morning to all08:26
doug2266778822how do i get this site to work http://www.pandora.com/08:26
MisterWhitegood morning08:28
fation_linuXhow can i download videos in streaming from watch-movies.net?08:28
doug2266778822how do i get this site to work http://www.pandora.com/08:28
powertool08fation_linuX: try the downloadhelper addon in firefox08:29
fation_linuXok...i'm truing now08:30
dystopianraydoug2266778822: i'd help but it's only accessible from the US08:30
fation_linuXtrying*08:30
doug2266778822dystopianray: thanks np.08:30
doug2266778822dystopianray: same prob with myspace players they wont load but vids from youtube pplay fine08:31
legend2440doug2266778822: do you have adobe flash player installrd?08:32
bobbie4Night all!!!!08:33
doug2266778822legend2440: yes i do .08:33
powertool08doug2266778822: its working for me, tho it takes awhile before i hear anything, it eventually plays08:33
fation_linuXpowetool0808:33
fation_linuX:)08:34
doug2266778822powertool08: pandora loads but all i see is a blue and white screen nothing more08:34
fation_linuXthnx a lot man08:34
fation_linuX;)08:34
legend2440doug2266778822: it should work then. r u using firefox?08:34
powertool08fation_linuX: no problem08:34
doug2266778822legend2440: yes08:34
kreyhi everyone, i can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family08:34
kreyi think that is a problem with 3d acceleration08:35
powertool08doug2266778822: i see a loading screen then it asked me for a favorite artist08:35
kreyhow can i enable it?08:35
doug2266778822powertool08: not on me i see the name at top then white and blue background nothing more08:35
powertool08doug2266778822: maybe try reinstalling flash and restricted extras? i did that earlier tonight to fix a non-related flash problem08:36
fation_linuXWe are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S.08:36
doug2266778822powertool08: how do i do that when i reinstall it said i have the updated already08:36
Xaroonubuntu 8.04 released time ?08:36
fation_linuXXaroon 14 hours08:37
fation_linuX:)08:37
powertool08doug2266778822: well i removed it, then installed08:37
Xaroonfation_linuX: do u know ?08:37
fation_linuXyes08:37
doug2266778822powertool08: ah ok and would that work? i used synaptic to install08:37
Xaroonfation_linuX: release time ? GMT =08:37
Xaroon008:37
Xaroonim drunk sorry.08:38
fation_linuX14 hours 22 mins08:38
fation_linuX+;)08:38
Xaroonthanks a lot08:38
Xaroonbabe08:38
kreyhi everyone, i can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family, how can i enable the 3d acceleration?08:38
fation_linuXur welcome08:38
DracoZA_damn i'll be asleep then08:38
fation_linuX:P08:38
powertool08doug2266778822: i used kubuntu's add/remove manager, it seems to have fixed my problem and didn't give any complaints in the reinstall process08:38
doug2266778822powertool08: im on gutsy gnome08:38
JPSmanIs it bad to run Hardy on Kernel 2.6.22 ?08:39
powertool08doug2266778822: synaptic should work the same08:39
doug2266778822powertool08: nope same thing08:39
powertool08doug2266778822: and you said youtube and other flash sites work fine?08:39
doug2266778822youtube does myspace dont and not sure bout flash games08:40
kreyplease help me!08:40
Xaroonfation_linuX: proof of the puding is in the eating.08:40
Xaroonkrey: my i help u ?08:40
fation_linuXlol08:40
fation_linuXKrey08:40
fation_linuXati graphic?08:40
kreyno, i dont have08:41
Xaroonkrey: whats problem maid ?08:41
kreyi can't enable the desktop effects i ubuntu gutsy, the motherboard has intel 965 express chipset family, how can i enable the 3d acceleration?08:41
Xaroonim drunk helper08:41
doug2266778822powertool08: no to flash games as well08:41
fation_linuXkrey did u have compiz?08:41
powertool08doug2266778822: where did you go to test that?08:41
doug2266778822addicting games08:41
kreyyes i've installed08:41
fation_linuXok08:41
legend2440krey: if you type compiz in terminal what errors do you get?08:42
Xaroonok08:42
Xaroonfation_linuX: where r u from ?08:43
doug2266778822powertool08:  join me in room ##Wwed please so i could send u a link that wont load on me when i try08:43
fation_linuXalbania08:43
fation_linuXlol08:43
Xaroonalbania ?08:43
Xaroonwhats albania ?08:43
fation_linuXyep08:43
fation_linuXwhy?08:43
Xaroonalgeria ?08:43
fation_linuXit's a contry08:43
fation_linuXnot man08:43
fation_linuXalbania08:43
Xaroonowwww albania im sorry08:43
FloodBot2fation_linuX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:43
fation_linuXdo u know?08:43
Xaroonyes i knowq08:43
Xaroonim from turkey08:43
fation_linuXok08:43
fation_linuXlol08:44
Xarooni think albania turkish name..08:44
Xaroonlol08:44
fation_linuXyep08:44
fation_linuX:)08:44
fation_linuXnot at all08:44
kreyWarn: no 8 bit glx pixmap format, disabling yv12 image format08:44
kreyi've installed xserver-xgl08:45
fation_linuXkrey : System ---> Administration --> Restricted driver manager08:45
Xarooni remember08:45
Xaroonalbania = arnavutluk08:45
fation_linuXlol08:45
cgentry72i'm just really stuck on this broadcom wireless deal. i've tried every linux distro and still can't figure it out.08:45
Xaroonturkish name is arnavutluk08:46
fation_linuXXaroon merhaba08:46
Xaroonmeraba08:46
Xaroonnasilsin ?08:46
Xaroon:)08:46
fouadcgentry72, ndiswrapper is your friend08:46
fation_linuXi don't know many phrases08:46
fation_linuX:(08:46
Xaroonfation_linuX: turkce biliyomusun08:46
Xaroon:)08:46
cgentry72fouad, i've heard but it's installed now what08:46
Xaroonturkce biliyomusun = do u speak turkish08:46
fation_linuXno08:46
fation_linuXi'm really sorry man08:46
fouadknow you have to download the windows drivers08:46
fation_linuX:P08:46
Xaroonalbanians girls ve beatufil08:46
Xarooni know08:47
fation_linuXi know08:47
fation_linuXi like them08:47
cgentry72fouad, yea that's the problem I don't even know where they are08:47
Xaroon:)08:47
fouad<cgentry72>:  which version of ubuntu you use08:47
fouadand what is the broadcom model08:47
cgentry72fouad, the latest one08:47
krey<fation_linuX> it appear: your hardware doesn't need resctrited drivers08:47
Xaroonfation_linuX: http://www.google.com.tr/search?hl=tr&q=albania+girls&meta=08:47
Xaroon:)08:47
fouadcgentry72, latest one ... you mean 7.10 ?08:48
cgentry72fouad, yes08:48
fouadok and what it's your broadcom model ?08:48
cgentry72fouad, as far as the model, i asked earlier where to find it and someone said hardware information but I could not find that anywhere08:48
legend2440krey: see if this helps Try doing alt + f2 and typing in compiz --replace08:48
fouadcgentry72, try the command lspci08:49
cgentry72fouad, one sec08:49
fation_linuXkrey : /usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format08:49
fation_linuXthis one?08:49
kreyyes08:49
fation_linuXthe same of me08:49
fation_linuXbut i have ati drivers08:49
cgentry72fouad, Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (piece of crap)08:49
Xaroonfation_linuX: http://www.albtimes.com/08:50
fation_linuXXaroon : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLjtVbwXtI  made by me08:50
fation_linuXlol08:51
Xaroonfation_linuX: u living pritzre08:51
XaroonDj fation oww yea08:51
cgentry72fouad, i'm having wireless nightmares for days08:51
fation_linuXyeahhh08:51
Xaroonowww i like electro music08:51
fouadcgentry72, have you tried to enable the restricted drivers ?08:51
fation_linuXi made techno - trance08:51
Xaroonnice clip08:51
fation_linuXthnx08:51
fation_linuXthe old glorious albanian army08:52
cgentry72fouad, the only restricted drivers showing up is for nvidia driver08:52
fation_linuXcommunism army08:52
fation_linuX:)08:52
Xaroonfation_linuX: my job DJ08:52
Xaroonhaha08:52
Xaroonim working time out bar in fethiye turkey08:52
Xaroondo u know fethiye ?08:52
fation_linuXfethiye it's a female name?08:52
Xaroonyep maybe :)08:52
cgentry72fouad, and that is enabled08:52
fouadcgentry72, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff08:53
fation_linuXi know a women named fethiye08:53
fation_linuX:)08:53
kreythanks for your help :)08:53
Xaroonfation_linuX: http://www.timeoutbar.net/08:53
cgentry72fouad, k i'll give it a shot thanks08:53
Xaroonanyway nice to meet u08:54
Xaroonsee u soon.08:54
Xaroonfation_linuX:08:54
fation_linuXtake care man08:54
fation_linuX:)08:54
HeroinHey.. how do i end a screen session?08:56
DanikarPNIs there an Ubuntu or other brand of linux i supose. For really old computers. I am talking like 75 MHz 64MB ram08:56
AndycasssCan I make network manager forget my wifi password?08:56
AndycasssRight now when i select a network it doesnt ask for a pass or anything08:56
HeroinDanikarPN: yah.. puppylinux or DSL (damn small linux)08:56
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idefixhi... ok I can put the command apt-get --reinstall install cupsys in my sessions startup programs list but there must be a more elegant solution08:58
idefixdo you know it?08:58
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idefixthe switch --reinstall, does it remove the installation after each session?08:59
HeroinHey.. how do i end a screen session?08:59
doug2266778822what is the compize fusion room ?08:59
idefixSystem Quit08:59
powertool08doug2266778822: #compiz-fusion i think08:59
doug2266778822i got four window selectors open but it only shows two09:00
doug2266778822i can not get no more then two09:00
doug2266778822powertool08: thanks09:00
Heroinwhat the logout command in a terminal?09:03
Heroini wanne log my user out how?09:03
mutkHeroin, exit09:04
idefixman apt-get09:06
zerlneoguys, is the docks that i saw in youtubes is already in compiz fusion?09:08
iceswordno09:08
icesword!info awn09:08
akatsukihi09:08
ubotuPackage awn does not exist in gutsy09:08
akatsukianyone using a sony walkman on ubuntu?09:08
akatsukii just buy one.. i was able to transfer pictures, but not music or video:S09:08
icesword!info avant-window-manager09:09
ubotuPackage avant-window-manager does not exist in gutsy09:09
icesword!avn09:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about avn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:09
icesword:(09:09
crdlb'avant-window-navigator'09:09
seamus7!awn09:09
ubotuAvant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy09:09
zerlneoso what docks you are using?09:09
DanikarPNzerlneo: You can get AWN, it just isnt installed by default09:10
seamus7zerlneo: AWN works well in Gutsy and Hardy09:10
idefixwhy is my apt-get install command nullified everytime I restart my PC?!09:10
mrhHi all09:10
zerlneocan i have some link09:10
cgentry72i followed the instructions for the broadcom and it's showing up in the window drivers but still nothing09:10
seamus7!awn09:10
ubotuAvant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy09:10
zerlneothankx09:10
mrhsay guys, where is the /opt directory located in feisty?09:10
seamus7opt is in /09:11
mrhseamus7: so I should see it listed along with bin and boot etc?09:12
seamus7mrh yes09:12
mrhseamus7: I am looking at / and . . . no /opt09:12
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Olgemcd / && ls | grep opt09:14
mrhOlgem: ok let me try09:14
legend2440mrh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19001109:15
betoke onda09:16
mrhlegend2440: thanks, I will look at that in a sec09:16
betoque es esta madre oke pedo09:16
betoque chingadera es esta wey09:16
seamus7!spanish09:16
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:16
betook i realy dont nowk how09:17
betospik09:17
betoinglish09:17
niuqbeto09:17
betobut09:17
FloodBot2beto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:17
niuq¿qué queres hacer?09:17
betoi will try09:17
ThreeFingerPeteso it looks like u8.04 will update cleaner, but also reinstalls without messing with /home which should i do when the time comes?09:17
betoa mira wey09:17
Yoshi_Matrixfollow the directions09:17
betosi hablan español aki09:17
Yoshi_Matrixthats about all09:17
Yoshi_Matrixaqui09:17
niuqno09:17
niuqen realidad es puramente inglés09:17
seamus7!spanish09:18
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.09:18
betook thas cool09:18
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Yoshi_MatrixSi Senor me habla espanol09:18
Yoshi_Matrixbut not much09:18
Yoshi_Matrixsome09:18
Yoshi_Matrixlol09:18
FloodBot2Yoshi_Matrix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.09:18
doug2266778822how do i fix my head phone jack to work?09:18
kelvin911hi why when i play et and hit ~ i sometimes lost mouse and keyboard?09:18
betosome09:18
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niuqlol, nothing actually09:18
XB23hey guys, is it possible to snapshot my OS so that I could burn it to an ISO so i have a backup of everything?09:18
ThreeFingerPeteXB23: look for remastersys09:19
betoke pedo09:19
doug2266778822can someone help me fix my headphone issue?09:19
XB23cheers ThreeFingerPete09:19
Yoshi_Matrix<FloodBot2> Yoshi_Matrix: Please don't flood, use http09:19
Yoshi_Matrixthats funny09:19
Yoshi_Matrixsince i didnt do any of that09:19
mrhXB23: Acronis True Image might help09:19
Yoshi_Matrixlol09:20
bidossessihi folks09:20
Yoshi_Matrixhello09:20
bidossessiwhich repo would i find the software "cheese" in?09:20
JPSmanC compiler cannot create executables  -  what synaptic package do I have to download for this to work?09:20
mrhOlgem: no reaction from those cl commands09:20
doug2266778822i need help to get my head phone jack to work please.09:20
seamus7XB23 did anyone answer? look into rsync  .. I believe it has the functionality you are looking for09:21
betoq weba wey09:21
zerlneowhich one should i download in AWN for i386 gutsy?09:21
legend2440XB23: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html09:22
mrhlegend2440: I am off to read that thread, I think that is my answer, I had assumed I simply could not find the directory in question09:22
mrhThanks to all who helped09:22
doug2266778822i need help with my headphone jack please.09:24
a_c_mtrying to diagnose a wifi problem... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide  but the ubuntu_wep_faq link is broken... any ideas?09:24
JPSmana_c_m what is the problem?09:25
XB23rysnc interesting09:25
XB23cheers09:25
a_c_mI cant connect to a wifi network, getting "assocation took to long >60"09:25
cgentry72i've had no luck installing the drivers for my broadcom wireless card so is there a place where i can find compatible usb wireless cards?09:26
JPSmana_c_m: what version of ubuntu are you using?09:26
doug2266778822i am running 64bit gutsy gnome and need help with getting my head phone jack to work please anyone?09:26
JPSmancgentry72: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page09:27
a_c_mJPSman both 8.4 (64bit) and 7.10 (32bit) - problem is on 2 computers (one laptop), each with different wifi cards both cards can see networks, and have in the past (at my old flat) been able to connect to networks.09:27
JPSmana_c_m: hardy has wireless problems, check out the site I just gave to gcentry72 for updates09:28
zerlneohey guys, should i download all the links found here for AWN? http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=231109:28
a_c_mJPSman i know the network works... as i'm, on it now with vista09:28
a_c_mJPSman right, but this problem is on both 8.4 and 7.1009:29
rinovanhow to fix broken packages?09:30
zerlneohey guys, should i download all the links found here for AWN? http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=231109:30
Zirodayrinovan: what is the exact error message?09:31
seamus7zerlneo I recommend going to http://wiki.awn-project.org/DistributionGuides and following the Testing Package instructions09:31
rinovan  libc6: Depends: tzdata but it is not installable09:31
rinovan  libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.6-0ubuntu20) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch5 is installed09:31
seamus7zerlneo: that is if you are on gutsy09:32
cgentry72JPSman, i'm not sure what that link is suppose to be for but it doesn't say anything about broadcom wireless cards09:32
dysingerwoooooohoooo !09:32
dysingeralmost ? not quite ?09:32
cgentry72JPSman, i'm looking for a place that will list compatible usb wireless hardware so i can go buy one that will work with ubuntu09:32
dysingerparty ?09:32
JPSmancgentry72: oh sorry09:32
zerlneoso all of those links needed to download?09:32
Zirodayrinovan: have you been mixing debian and ubuntu repos?09:33
doug2266778822anyone?09:33
rinovanyes i am09:33
doug2266778822is anyone going to help? me.09:34
nagchampahi, i'm trying to help a friend over IRC fix his computer09:34
seamus7zerlneo: no you add new repositories to your software sources, that will make the most current version of awn available for download once you update your package lists .. it's all spelled out in the Testing Pacakages instructions for Gutsy09:34
nagchampahe's running LTS ubuntu09:34
nagchampahe's lost the ability to admin anything09:34
nagchampais there supposed to be a wheel group in ubuntu?09:34
cgentry72JPSman, so do you know where i can find a list of compatible usb wireless cards09:35
erUSUL!hcl09:35
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection09:35
Zirodayrinovan: well thats not always a good idea, the reason you have that error is that you have a debian package which is not compatible with the ubuntu package, you can try uninstall the debian package and either use apt-pinning or remove the debian repos to try and reinstall the ubuntu version of libc6, however this may cause breakage throughout your machine09:35
cgentry72ubotu, thanks man09:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:35
jribnagchampa: "admin" group09:35
JPSmancgentry72: yeah i can find out bit busy right now09:35
nagchampaok, thanks jrib09:35
Zirodaycgentry72: ubotu is a bot09:35
Ziroday!ask | doug226677882209:36
ubotudoug2266778822: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)09:36
doug2266778822my head phone jack will not work09:36
nagchampado you need to be in the audio group in ubuntu for audio access for your user?09:37
jribnagchampa: yes09:37
rinovanZiroday: apt-pinning?09:37
nagchampaok, thanks jrib :)09:37
erUSULnagchampa: yep09:37
cgentry72Ziroday, oh that's funny thanks for telling me09:37
doug2266778822im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phoen jack to work. can anyone help me?09:38
nagchampafinal question, what groups should a default user be in (with admin access) for ubuntu?09:38
Nick123im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that09:38
zerlneoseamus7: i dont actually have a active internet connection at home... im here in a cafe station09:39
zerlneothats why im looking also for a package installer that i can download and save it to my flash drive and install at home09:40
bsdpuppydoug2266778822: try System/Preferences/Sound -> Test if you can get playback to your speakers. Try setting the volume. Else you have to see if your soundcard is supported by the ALSA/OSS mixer.09:40
Zirodayrinovan: a method of specifying which package versions over which repos to favor, useful but hard to setup09:40
tmrolandhi09:41
doug2266778822bsdpuppy: i have done that but all of it comes back external speakers09:41
tmrolandpls tell me something to do at comand line that takes a lot of time to perform and intensively uses system resources.. something like a simple benchamark or similar09:41
tmrolandusing aa standard comand09:41
sorsistmroland: compile a kernel09:41
seamus7zerlneo you won't have internet access at home anytime soon?09:41
tmrolandsomething else09:42
nagchampathere's an advanced CLI calculator that you could get soem tricky maths to do with it09:42
bsdpuppydoug2266778822: so you have sound playback? Than you haven't plugged the headphones in the right jack.09:42
dystopianraytmroland: what do you want to benchmark?09:42
doug2266778822bsdpuppy: i have them pluged in the jack09:42
nagchampaanyone know what groups a standard user with admin access on ubuntu 6.06 should be in?09:42
tmrolandhard drive / ram09:42
tmrolandcpu09:42
tmrolandanything09:42
tmrolandusing a simple command09:42
dystopianraytmroland: sudo hdparm -tT /dev/blah to benchmark a hdd09:43
tmrolandhow much does that take09:43
tmrolandin time09:43
dystopianraynot very long09:43
tmrolandwell not good then09:43
tmrolandsomething that runs non stop09:43
tmrolanduntil i stop it09:43
bsdpuppydoug2266778822: tried other headphones?09:43
tmrolandanythin gthat works with the filesystem will do09:44
dystopianraytmroland: why do you want it to work like that?09:44
marceli deleted a partition that has a LOT of important data on it, what can i do?09:44
doug2266778822bsdpuppy: yes got brand new ones as well.09:44
a_c_mare there any dedicated ubuntu wifi support channels?09:44
tmrolandbecause i need it to work continously , thats what my boss said09:44
erUSUL!info testdisk | marcel09:44
ubotumarcel: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.6-1 (gutsy), package size 668 kB, installed size 2624 kB09:44
erUSUL!info gpart | marcel09:44
ubotumarcel: gpart (source: gpart): Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4.1 (gutsy), package size 35 kB, installed size 112 kB09:44
sorsistmroland: benchmarking is not that simple so i would still recommend something more complicated like kernel compiling or mp3 encoding.09:45
tmrolandok09:45
zerlneoseamus7: we dont have net connection for a 2 weeks already.. and i dont know when it will be up again09:45
dystopianraytmroland: you want a benchmark that just goes on forever?09:45
Mistricalhey everyone, can someone give me a hand, i think ive got a problem with xfce09:45
rinovanZiroday: so I must locate libc609:45
marcelah, brb09:45
tmrolandi want anything possible any app or program even GUI in gnome that actually takes some resources to run and is kinda intensive..09:45
tmrolandanything included in standard linux09:45
tmrolanddistros09:46
bsdpuppytmroland: how long should it run09:46
sorsistmroland: and if you have several CPUs or multiple cores use '-j <amount of cores>' to use all cores.09:46
dystopianraytmroland: for what purpose?09:46
Mistricalthe main taskbar at the top has disappeared, it appears as a really thin line09:46
Mistricalno buttons09:46
tmrolandbecause i suspect the pc will freeze09:46
sorsistmroland: http://www.2cpu.com/articles/41_3.html09:46
marcelback09:46
dystopianraytmroland: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null ?09:46
marcelits a 450gb partition, how long am i looking at it going to take?09:46
bsdpuppytmroland: the best thing to use as a really annoying system resource eating benchmarker is to use a dedicated server game like Quake and ask other people to play on it09:47
sorsistmroland: http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/articles/eng/1735.htm09:47
bsdpuppytmroland: or play yourself :)09:47
tmrolanddystopianray : i did that comand. tell me what does it do ? generate random numbers and send them to the black hole ?09:47
dystopianraytmroland: basically09:47
Mistricalhow do i edit the grub bootloader so that my xp installation is the default?09:47
tmrolanddoes that use signifcant resources ?09:47
dystopianraytmroland: check top09:47
tmrolandaye09:48
timfrost!info lmbench09:48
ubotulmbench (source: lmbench): Utilities to benchmark UNIX systems. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.0-a7-1 (gutsy), package size 782 kB, installed size 3552 kB09:48
tmrolandits on 1st place09:48
tmrolandin resource usage09:48
sorsistmroland: memtest is allso good for testing if comp can handle heat or if there is some failing bits in ram.09:48
seamus7zerlneo awn will likely install lots of dependencies .. not sure what those are .. you could build your own debian packages http://wiki.awn-project.org/HOWTO:BuildYourOwnDebianPackages09:48
doug2266778822bsdpuppy: ? any ideas?09:48
dystopianraytmroland: try this as well: cat /dev/sda > /dev/null09:48
tmrolandsorsis : yes, but i need something that runs while the OS is running09:48
dystopianraytmroland: replacing sda with whatever your hdd is09:48
tmrolandok09:48
tmrolandthat sends contents of the block device to black hole or what?09:49
bsdpuppydoug2266778822: if your speakers can playback your sound there is nothing wrong with your soundcard or your OS.09:49
dystopianraytmroland: that's right09:49
bsdpuppydoug2266778822: so i am running out.09:49
tmrolandk09:49
tmrolandthose 2 runnig at same time should do09:49
doug2266778822bsdpuppy:  i do alsamixer even as sudo and the headphone line wont move up.09:50
zerlneoseamus7: im only 1 week old of using this OS :) thats why im so damn n00b on this...09:50
marceltestdisk is confusing, is gpart easier?09:50
kaltsinhoDO YOU KNOW WHEN KUBUNTU IS READY WITH KDE4????09:50
seamus7zerlneo is your home computer a laptop .. can you take it somewhere with internet?09:50
dystopianraykaltsinho: there will be a kde4 version of hardy09:50
tmrolandin what way does the last command send data do dev/null ? it doesnt actually send the fs contents... what does it send ?09:50
a_c_mkaltsinho it is now... more a case of when KDE4 is ready for ubuntu ;)09:51
dystopianraytmroland: it writes the entire contents of the drive to /dev/null09:51
tmrolandaha09:51
tmrolandentire data09:51
kaltsinhoin ubuntu site said in one day the hardy will be ready09:51
tmrolandok09:51
kaltsinhoeither kubuntu?09:51
tmrolandits like throwing your hdd in the garbage can but u still have the original data09:51
tmrolandright?09:51
doug2266778822 im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phone jack to work. can anyone help me?09:51
dystopianraytmroland: it simpy reads the contents of the drive and writes it to /dev/null09:52
dystopianraysimply09:52
simion314hi, i never used usb flash memori stick in Ubuntu. i know that in XP you must use the safe remove before remove the drive, how can i remove the drive safe in ubuntu?09:52
tmrolandok09:52
tmrolandthanks man09:52
Nick123im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that09:52
tmrolandjust what iwas looking for09:52
iceswordsimion314, right click, delete it09:53
zerlneoseamus7: no, its desktop.... if only i can take it to cafe station but i dont think they want09:53
kaltsinhodo you know the release date of kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4 complete????09:53
JPSmanI need help installing beta sound drivers09:53
dystopianraykaltsinho: probably tomorrow09:54
simion314icesword: unmount it(in 8.04)?09:54
JPSmanThe drivers come with an installer, but I get the error: C compiler cannot create executables09:54
kaltsinhoI CANT WAITTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!09:54
Scrounchkde4 complete.... 1 years, 2 years ~09:54
kaltsinhoI'm so happy09:54
dystopianrayJPSman: do you have build-essentials installed?09:54
jribkaltsinho: #ubuntu-release-party09:54
iceswordsimion314, yep, it will do the same of " umount"09:54
iceswordthing09:54
JPSmanDystopianray: uh, thank you i'll try09:54
Nick123im trying ot enable a restricted drivre but is says the software source is not enabled and it gives me a name how do i enable that, hwo do i enable it?09:55
kaltsinhoKDE 4 will be complete?09:55
JPSmanDystopianray: wait how do I do that?  synaptic package?09:56
dystopianraykaltsinho: what do you mean by 'complete' ?09:56
dystopianrayJPSman: however you normally install packages09:56
timfrostJPSman: you need build-essential (not build-essentials), plus the linux headers package, and the development packages for libraries that the drivers need to link against09:56
timfrost!info build-essential09:56
ubotubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB09:56
JRRDhey all  -- I've compile a driver that generated a .ko file where is the best place to store this in the filesystem?09:56
zerlneohey guys, how can i install a file like this on ubuntu 7.1? avant-window-navigator-0.2.6.tar.gz (md5)09:59
timfrostJPSman: you can install build-essential with synaptic, or you can use the command-line tools (apt-get or aptitude)09:59
zerlneofile extension is .tar.gz09:59
dystopianrayzerlneo: you probably need to compile it09:59
JRRDshould .ko files typically reside somewhere under /lib/modules?09:59
billgoldberghey people, does anyone have any experiences with the restricted ati drivers in hardy? In gutsy I couldn't play 3d games (compiz fusion worked well) (I use a ati radeon xpress 200, an onboard card)09:59
kaltsinhoi heard that now has less apps and not stable.is that true? tomorrow will be ok?09:59
kaltsinhoabout kubuntu10:00
zerlneodystopianray, can u give me a link on how to do that? im a noob on this OS10:00
dystopianrayzerlneo: i can't, sorry10:00
Nick123whats dapper?10:00
timfrostJRRD, the ko file needs to go into the directory /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/misc10:00
dystopianrayzerlneo: and if you're a 'noob' i wouldn't recommend trying it10:00
billgoldbergdapper is an old ubuntu version10:00
dystopianrayNick123: dapper is ubuntu 6.0610:00
timfrost!compile | zerlneo10:01
ubotuzerlneo: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)10:01
zerlneothankx10:01
Nick123im trying to follow this10:01
Nick123http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517410:01
Nick123how do i get into that screen to type commands10:01
JRRDtimfrost, thx!10:01
zerlneoi think they dont have a pre built on this... https://launchpad.net/awn10:02
billgoldbergnick: the terminal, it should be under applications -> accessories10:02
Nick123do ii just type in there10:02
billgoldbergyes, copy paste the commands from the how to10:02
billgoldbergdoes anyone know any good ubuntu blogs, I'm home from work the rest of the week and I'm bored10:04
dystopianraybillgoldberg: try planet ubuntu10:04
billgoldbergok10:05
billgoldbergwill do10:05
kaltsinhogo outside goldberg with friends10:05
iclebytehaha10:05
kaltsinhobetter option10:05
billgoldbergkaltsinho, there all in school or at work, it's 11am here10:05
kaltsinhogo for a drink then10:06
billgoldbergmmm, a bit to early10:06
billgoldbergand since gparted has been rezising my external hdd for more than 10 hours, I can't play css10:07
kaltsinhodepends the country10:07
aladois  new xubuntu also coming out tomorrow, or is it just ubuntu?10:07
billgoldbergall version10:07
billgoldbergs10:07
billgoldbergcome out tomorrow10:07
aladook, thnx10:07
bsdpuppyanyone experience with bridges and vpn?10:07
kaltsinhodo you know a place to order some linux sticks for laptop???10:08
iclebytestickers?10:08
kaltsinhoy10:08
kaltsinhoi cut MS logos10:08
dystopianraykaltsinho: I got some ubuntu stickers when I ordered a bunch of ubuntu cds from shipit a couple years ago10:09
kaltsinhohow long you waited for the cds and other stuff?10:09
iclebytei think www.jinx.com do stickers10:09
kaltsinhothx10:10
billgoldbergi think you can get free stickers from system7610:10
iclebyteand http://www.hackerstickers.com/10:10
iclebyte=)10:10
Kohelethhaving stickers seems a bit nerdy to me10:11
kaltsinhothx again10:11
KohelethI would put a ubuntu logo on my website though10:11
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Koheleththen again, I used to have a SuSE cap :)10:12
kaltsinhowhen i'm cutting MS logos i scratch my laptop and now i need new stickers10:12
Kohelethlol10:13
kaltsinhoit is a little bit ugly now10:13
phishielol10:13
ActionParsniphttp://www.hackerstickers.com/products/tux-penguin-shotglass.shtml10:14
zerlneowhy i cant find a pre built package for AWN gutsy?10:14
kaltsinholol very good10:14
kaltsinhohackerstickers are in UK???10:15
billgoldbergzerlneo, you can try getdeb.net10:15
phishiekaltsinho, it took about 2 weeks for them to send the cds here in SG10:15
JPSmantimfrost: "Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution"  which synaptic packages are these?10:16
dystopianraykaltsinho: I think it took a month or two to get the CDs for me, I am in Australia10:16
phishiethat's actually pretty fast10:16
ActionParsnipJPSman: sudo apt-get install kernel-source10:16
seamus7zerlneo you might try downloading the files for gutsy which end i386.deb .. put them on a usb drive or disc .. https://launchpad.net/~awn-testing/+archive ... you'd need those for avant-windows-navigator-trunk and avant-extra-applets-trunk .. there are 810:16
kaltsinhoi cant w8 so long dude10:17
Ace_NoOnehi there - is there a flowchart application that does auto-placement/-spacing of elements? I hate having to arrange items manually10:17
hhofuelhi10:17
Houdinihi10:17
hhofuelwhat specific distro that support quad core intel xeon processor?10:17
phishiekaltsinho, just put the blame on MS10:17
phishiethat should do10:17
dystopianrayhhofuel: ubuntu should support it10:17
kaltsinhoyeah10:17
JPSmanActionParsnip: "E: Package kernel-source has no installation candidate"   how and where do I point to what?10:18
eichiwhat do you think, is the slowes system i need to run xubuntu with useable speed?10:18
hhofueldystopianray: even ubuntu server can support it, cant it?10:18
kaltsinhohoudini very lucky guy10:18
timfrostJPSman: you probably only need the kernel headers: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:18
mrhA-ha! solved my /opt directory issue10:18
dystopianrayhhofuel: yes10:18
Koheletheichi: a potato server10:18
JPSmantimfrost: is that what .h means?  a header file?  I never knew10:18
ActionParsnipJPSman:  apt-cache search kernel-source10:18
billgoldbergI'm looking for a  pdf converter, anyone has any suggestions?10:19
mrhWas installing Xampp10:19
hhofuelwow cool10:19
dystopianrayhhofuel: there is nothing special about 4 cores, any linux distro should support it10:19
kaltsinhobb guys happy easter10:19
ActionParsnipJPSman: you'll need the universal options enabled10:19
Kohelethhttp://totl.net/Spud/10:19
eichiKoheleth, ? what?10:19
eichiKoheleth, ? what?10:19
Kohelethit should run on that10:19
ActionParsnipJPSman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/apt-get-kernel-source-is-installing-the-wrong-kernel-source.-317139/10:19
Houdinican someone help me? in my /etc/network/interfaces is only an entry for my loopback interface. why do i still have a working eth0?10:20
dystopianrayHoudini: network-manager10:20
mrhA thank you to all who answered my questions earlier10:20
mrhbye fellas10:20
Mental_Manwhich is the best cross platform GUI toolkit to use for both windows and linux for a opensource project ? any suggestions10:20
hhofueldystopianray: what do you mean nothing special? does it mean that it wont add speed or efficient processing?10:20
ActionParsnipHoudini: network-manager is managing it, you can populate the file if you wish10:20
Houdinidystopianray: what do you mean?10:20
dystopianrayhhofuel: i mean that all distros should support it10:20
dystopianrayhhofuel: you don't need to go looking for a special distro, they should all support it without issue10:21
ActionParsnipMental_Man: wine is cool, cedega and crossover office if you wanna splash some cash10:21
dystopianrayHoudini: network-manager is managing your eth0 interface10:21
phishieMental_Man, erm... eclipse with plugins?10:21
dystopianrayMental_Man: Qt10:21
timfrostJPSman: yes ".h" is a header file in the C/C++ world. BTW, if you install linux-headers-generic, it will keep updating the headers as new kernel releases are made10:21
Mental_Manis QT opensource?10:21
dystopianrayMental_Man: yes, KDE is based on Qt10:22
Mental_Manoh... thanks...10:22
Mental_Mani am new to computers......10:22
dystopianrayMental_Man: regardless of what you think of KDE, Qt is definetly the best GUI toolkit on any platform, it is amazing10:22
Mental_Manbut i hate windows....lol10:22
hhofuelthanks dystopianray10:22
ActionParsnipMental_Man: you'll learn10:22
billgoldbergI have a stupid question, I did "gksudo nautilus" and now the desktop stays on the root desktop, restarting x is not an option. What should I do?10:23
NET||abuseHey guys.. anyone know a good way to raw read a floppy drive and recover files off it? my boss has a floppy with some important notes on it, from a while back, his windows machine is saying unformatted disk.10:24
JPSmantimfrost: I am using hardy and kernel 2.6.22 - is this bad?10:24
phishiebillgoldberg,  kill process running nautilus?10:24
dystopianrayNET||abuse: he has no backup?10:25
billgoldbergwon't that crash the desktop?10:25
doug2266778822 im running ubuntu gutsy gnome and i can not get my head phoen jack to work. can anyone help me?10:25
zvacetJPSman : how many old kernels do you have?10:25
billgoldbergdoug, donwload "gnome alsamixer" from add/remove and tag the "headphone box"10:25
NET||abusedystopianray: it's that he had from some book from ages ago, it has some stuff he really wants to read.10:25
ActionParsnipNET||abuse: ty man dd10:26
phishiebillgoldberg, I'm not sure about that now man10:26
JPSmanzvacet: just two - 2.6.22 and 2.6.24(that came with hardy)    the reason is that 2.6.24 has buggy rt2x00 drivers and my internet is weak10:26
Mental_Mangoto terminal and type "nautilus -q10:26
billgoldbergphishie, it's not really such a big deal, normally I would restart x, but gparted is running, i'll keep it like that and to "sudo nautilus" next time10:27
billgoldbergmental man, will try10:27
timfrostJPSman: that presents difficulties, as the 2.6.22 kernel packages aren't in the hardy repositories.  You will have to download and install the header package manually (it will be available, as gutsy uses that kernel)10:27
Mental_Manthat i think should restart nautilus back with default user10:27
zvacetJPSman : So you can boot in Hardy kernel but you don´t want to.You can use old krnel.10:27
billgoldbergdidn't work10:27
Mental_Manok .. then goto terminal and type "killall nautilus"....10:28
JPSmanzvacet: exactly - i just want to know if thats a bad thing10:28
Mental_Manwithout quotes...10:28
billgoldbergdoesn't work either, nor did pkill10:28
cpk1JPSman:  just build your own rt2x00 drivers?10:28
Mental_Manlogout and login back again....see if that works10:28
cpk1JPSman: then you can boot into 2.6.22 kernel just fine10:28
JoelioIs this the 8.04 discussion?10:29
Joelioor is there another chanel10:29
billgoldbergmental_man, I know that will do but I can't log out now (gparted is resizing my external hdd)10:29
Joelios/chanel/channel10:29
cpk1!hardy10:29
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!10:29
dystopianrayJoelio: #ubuntu+110:29
zvacetJPSman : You can run old krnel,but if you get fix for new one how do you know it?10:29
Mental_Manok...10:29
billgoldbergi'll just wait till gparted is ready and then restart x10:29
Mental_Manits really hard to say what might have caused the problem10:29
JPSmancpkl: I wish I was that leet.  No the guys over at http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com have done that   I just dont know how to impliment the VCS's10:29
JPSmancvs10:30
sgbirchfirefox isnt starting on two of my dapper machines after a recent update/upgrade. Is this a known problem?10:30
Mental_Mantry starting the system monitor and see if nautilus is running as dependency for another program10:30
billgoldberganother strange this that happened is that naulilus won''t open, nor does thunar, I can only open it using "gksudo nautilus".10:30
billgoldbergok10:30
JPSmantimfrost: so google kernel header package 2.6.22?    how do I do this manuall?10:31
Kohelethsgbirch: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-March/071488.html10:32
cpk1JPSman: ahh, i see since they switched to being in the kernel tree to get the newest you need the newest kernel, that might be more work than you want =P otherwise you might be able to try the legacy drivers10:32
batmanhey guys10:32
JPSmancpkl: legacy drivers?10:33
cpk1JPSman: which rt chipset you have?10:33
billgoldbergthunar and nautilus say "uninteruptable", thunar is running by itself and naulitus as depedency for the x-session-manager10:33
JPSmancpkl: rt2500pci10:33
Mental_Mansee if "gksudo nautilus -q" works10:34
cpk1JPSman: so why dont you just try building the driver from this http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/rt2500-cvs-daily.tar.gz instead of going through all the trouble of manually getting .22 kernel headers and whatnot10:34
inetiHi10:34
batmanhi10:34
Mental_ManHi10:34
billgoldbergmental man: no10:34
ActionParsnipJPSman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/12918310:34
inetiIs the radeon xpress 1150 supported with the OSS radeon driver?10:34
JPSmancpkl: because I reallly really dont know how :OP   LOL  I would love to learn10:34
billgoldbergI never had this happening before, strange10:35
batman;)10:35
billgoldbergthe problems started when choosing a new gtk theme10:35
Mental_Manok... i guess when the partitioning is done... logout and log back in10:35
billgoldbergthat's the plan :p10:35
msinghhow long to go now?10:35
JPSmanActionParsnip:  I dont know how to use this information that you have given me10:36
cpk1JPSman: you will have just as much trouble installing kernel headers as you would building the drivers10:36
cpk1*manually installing kernel headers that it10:36
cpk1is*10:36
sgbirchKoheleth: that doesnt seem to be the problem10:37
JPSmancpkl: ok this is true but as I am using 2.6.24 I have no internet with which to ask you guys and trouble shoot these things10:37
JPSmancpkl: where is a good place to start learning how to build a driver?10:37
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ActionParsnipJPSman: ndiswrapper does it too :)10:37
KohelethI just googled a few words like dapper +firefox and that came up10:37
sgbirchKoheleth: removing the .parentlock file doesnt help.  The firefox process is running but no window is displayed10:37
ActionParsnipJPSman: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24389.html10:37
ActionParsnipJPSman: you'll need the XPdriver10:38
* JPSman looks like a lost puppy10:38
Kohelethsgbirch:   try uninstalling and deleting the folders and reinstalling from scratch, I bet that will sort it.10:39
cpk1JPSman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28ralink%29 is a good place to start10:39
sgbirchKoheleth: Yeah, I just did a rm -rf .mozilla and it came back.  Strange .. two machines broke after and upgrade. Both dapper.10:40
ActionParsnipJPSman: you arent going to learn the system without putting some efort in dude10:40
Kohelethcontact mozilla10:41
ActionParsnipJPSman: look around and find stuff out man10:41
babois there a screen capture program for linux that also captures sound ?10:41
Koheleththat be cool10:42
cpk1JPSman: I am pretty sure that link I gave you explains both methods of getting ralink cards to work so read up =)10:42
ajbehi! what could be the most stable both smtp and imap/pop3 email server?10:42
JPSmanActionParsnip: I understand.  I'm trying my best but I am frustrated.  I thank you for all your help so far10:42
ajbeany tips pls?10:42
JPSmancpkl:  thank you for all your help :OD10:42
timfrostJPSman: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.22/ (or choose a local mirror) should have the linux-headers-2.6.22 file you need.  Grab the correct one for your architecture, if you do need to build the driver from source10:42
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cpk1timfrost: if he is building from source he might as well use 2.6.24 and then he can apt the headers10:43
JPSmantimfrost:  thank you for all your help10:43
karimanybody using xchat?10:44
karimgotta a little problem and its pissing me off rly bad10:44
ActionParsnipJPSman: read the walkthrough i pasted up above, its pretty helpful10:44
dystopianraykarim: i'm not using it now but I do use it elsewhere10:44
JPSmantimfrost - cpkl :  I have decieded to take ActionParsnips advice and learn how to fix my rt2500 problem.  I thank all of you for your help.10:44
ActionParsnipJPSman: basically you combine ndswrapper (install from repos)10:44
ActionParsnipwith the xp driver10:44
Paavi2_0karim: what's the problem?10:44
ActionParsnipand itmakes stuff work10:44
Rominahi10:45
cpk1JPSman: make sure you disable the rt2x00 driver!10:45
ActionParsnipPaav rt2500 pci wireless with ubuntu10:45
RominaHow can I allow every user (instead of only root)  to run  /usr/bin/syndaemon  ?10:45
JPSmanthis is the true spirit of Ubuntu.  Thank all of you10:45
karimevery time i try to connect to this network i get the following message10:45
karimIf your mail address were foo@bar.com, your username would be foo.10:45
karim* Closing Link: k4r1m by ClanShells.DE.EU.GameSurge.net (USER: Bad username)10:45
Mental_Mani am using xhat for windows10:45
karimand i cant find this email thing any where in the settings10:46
Mental_Manare u in ubuntu... at the moment10:46
karimim using gOS10:46
karimwhich is pretty much ubuntu yeah10:46
Ryuhoi installed a program by 'make install', i can't find how to start the installed program... where would i look10:47
ActionParsnipRyuho: whats the app you installed?10:47
Ryuhonavi2ch10:47
Mental_Manok... then goto the directory where xchat saves the its settings.... its .xchat directory... somewhere in your home dir10:47
Ryuhoi found it on sourceforge10:47
karimanybody?10:47
ActionParsnipRyuho: does it not run if you simply type navi2ch in a terminal?10:48
Ryuhonope10:48
* N3bunel saluta10:48
Ryuhonothing starting with navi10:48
dystopianraykarim: try changing your username to what it says it should be10:48
Ryuhoas far as my tab complition can tell me10:48
ccookekarim: ... sounds like an irc server with an odd policy10:48
dystopianraykarim: then ask someone on that networka bout the issue10:48
ActionParsnipRyuho: how about the command which navi2ch10:49
Ryuhoit didn't do anything10:49
karimi have tried that10:49
karimxchat is freaking horrible what do you guys suggest other than xchat?10:50
Paavi2_0karim: sounds like a problem not xchat specific10:50
ActionParsnipRyuho: id use sudo find then :(10:50
ActionParsnipkarim: pidgin is ok10:50
karimnah10:50
Paavi2_0karim: irssi is the best10:50
ccookekarim: irssi is a great client for text mode10:50
ActionParsnipor konversation if you have kde libs10:50
zvacetRyuho :                locate navi2ch10:50
karimi want nice gui10:50
karimwith highlighting options and stuff10:51
Ryuhok10:51
Paavi2_0irssi comes with highlighting10:51
ActionParsnipkarim: http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/platforms-unix-x.html10:51
Ryuhozvacet nothing10:51
ActionParsnipkarim: its IRC, it doesnt usually have a pretty gui10:51
karimalright10:51
karimso how do i remove this?10:52
Paavi2_0do you really want to?10:52
zvacetRyuho :sorry for asking,but did you install it properly?10:52
ActionParsnipkarim: theres a plugin for firefox too for irc chat10:52
Ryuhowelp i did do ./comfigure10:52
karimyeah well hm i might as well10:52
Ryuhoand the log didn't seem to have any problem10:52
zvacetRyuho : I sow deb package10:52
karimso how do i remove this?10:52
ActionParsnipkarim: remove what?10:52
karimnvm got it10:53
Paavi2_0karim: use synaptic10:53
cRyPt0hello. can someone pls guide me in installing horde in ubuntu 7.10?10:53
cRyPt0hello. can someone pls guide me in installing horde in ubuntu 7.10 (server)?10:53
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: sudo apt-get remove --purge horde; sudo apt-get autoremove10:53
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cRyPt0ActionParsnip: i wish to install it.10:55
bad_imageHello folks, please help me a bit with the following sentence: "Order here your personal photos or videos." - I think the only allowed version is "Order your personal videos or photos here.", but I'm not sure, are you?10:55
zvacetRyuho : cd /          and then sudo find / -name *navi2ch*10:55
Ryuhook10:55
zvacetRyuho : it have to be somewhere10:55
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: then sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install horde10:56
Ryuhosearching10:56
bad_imageDid I choose a bad channel? I ask because you seem to be dumb like windows user10:56
CrazyRatanybody who knows the hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda command10:56
ikoniaCrazyRat: what about it ?10:57
ActionParsnipbad_image: the 2nd sentance is correct10:57
Ryuhoi see files under emacs/22.1 file10:57
ikoniabad_image: whats the problem, and please be respectful to other users10:57
CrazyRatI wonder how can I revert it10:57
cRyPt0ActionParsnip: it gives me the following error: Package horde is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:57
cRyPt0This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:57
cRyPt0is only available from another source10:57
cRyPt0E: Package horde has no installation candidate10:57
lordleemobad_image: the second sentence is better english   and we are not dumb10:57
FloodBot1cRyPt0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:57
ikoniaCrazyRat: revert it to what ?10:57
bad_imagethank you guys10:57
CrazyRatI don't know what's the default value of the parameter -B10:57
zvacetRyuho : time and patience10:57
ikoniabad_image: what's the problem you've got ?10:57
ikoniaCrazyRat: that varies from system/disk10:57
CrazyRathmmm.... on ubuntu10:58
Ryuhoi see files under folder related to emacs.. and that's it10:58
ikoniaCrazyRat: that varies on system/disk - not OS10:58
bad_imageand sorry for confronting you with windows users10:58
CrazyRatI set it to 254 and my hdd don't spin down10:58
ikoniabad_image: do you have a question yes/no10:58
Paavi2_0bad_image: the last sentence seemed to be right by any means, but this propably is the wrong channel...10:58
bad_imageikonia, as you can see my question has been already answered =)10:59
cRyPt0ActionParsnip: i get the following error -> Package horde is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package horde has no installation candidate10:59
Helvasca-how do I force dpkg to install a package?10:59
ikoniaPaavi2_0: please don't pander to this, there is nothing wrong with windows users and calling them names in this channel is uncalled for10:59
ikoniabad_image: no, sorry, I didn't see it answered.10:59
ikoniaCrazyRat: 254 is only JUST turning apm on10:59
ikoniaCrazyRat: the lower the value the more agressive the apm11:00
ikoniaCrazyRat: 255 turns it off, so if your on 254, you've only just turned it on11:00
bad_imageikonia, alright11:00
bad_imagebye and thx again11:00
Paavi2_0ikonia: i just answered to the question he asked first11:00
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: then you need to find a repository with the app on it11:00
ikoniaPaavi2_0: yes, but persisting with sly remarks about windows users shouldn't continue11:00
CrazyRathmm, thanks ikonia11:00
CrazyRatI just found that in man pages11:01
zvacetRyuho I don´t know.What about instaqll file and ead me file.Can you find something about package there?11:01
ikoniaCrazyRat: you may want to try setting it to a quite agressive number to test it11:01
doug2266778822is it normal to hear the little needle scrape across the hd disks? inside the hd.11:01
ikoniaCrazyRat: you may also want to check if your drive supportes it11:01
ikoniadoug2266778822: depends on the sound, but yes11:01
CrazyRatyeah, my load_cycle_count   rising fast11:01
Ryuhoi'm looking at the install instruction file.. but it only says to make install... then the list of things to do ends lol11:01
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ikoniaRyuho: contact the maintering/support service for it then11:02
Paavi2_0ikonia: you're right. many ubuntu/linux-users i know are using windows too. didn't mean to give wrong impressions11:02
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/horde-sam11:02
ActionParsnipmaybe11:02
Ryuhoikonia it seems like an abandoned project anyway11:02
Ryuhothe sourceforge webpage seems out dated11:02
ikoniaPaavi2_0: no problem, just be mindful of what you say "windows is dumb" is just a silly statment and uncalled for (as an example)11:02
cRyPt0ActionParsnip: shd i add that to the apt config file?11:02
ikoniaRyuho: what is the application ?11:02
Ryuhonavi2chan-1.7.511:03
doug2266778822thnks ikonia11:03
ikoniaRyuho: not aware of it at all11:03
Ryuhohttp://sourceforge.net/projects/navi2ch/11:03
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: you need to enable universe repos11:03
Ryuhoyeah11:03
cRyPt0ActionParsnip: how do i do that. i currently have the sources.list file open11:03
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: uncomment the lines for universe if you want11:04
ActionParsnipor you can use adept / synaptic / whatever and enable them11:04
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: id google about enabling sources11:04
cRyPt0ActionParsnip: ok11:05
ActionParsnipcRyPt0: i'd also run sudo apt-get upgrade too11:05
umbrualbertSepate screens/sessions for Nvidia cards11:05
Ryuhothx for the input guys11:05
CrazyRatsetting hdparm -B 128  .... looks like the hdd temperature falls a little bit11:06
CrazyRatdoes this Load_Cycle_Count really matters if it's rising fast?11:07
mogsoghello11:07
dystopianrayCrazyRat: yes, it's reducing the lifespan of your drive11:08
ikoniaCrazyRat: can effect performance,11:08
mogsogdoes anyone know if the is a live cd of ubuntu which comes with vlc on it out the box11:09
CrazyRatbut if i turn spin down off, the temperature rises...about 5 degree11:09
mogsog?11:09
ikoniamogsog: no11:09
ikoniamogsog: there is only one ubuntu livecd11:09
CrazyRatwhich is worse?11:09
ikoniaCrazyRat: thats your call11:09
dystopianraymogsog: just boot the livecd and install vlc11:09
CrazyRat-_-b11:09
dystopianraymogsog: or get a diffent livecd that does have vlc11:10
mogsogdystopianray: know any live cds which do have vlc?11:10
ikoniamogsog: this is nothing to do with ubuntu11:10
ikoniamogsog: please take it to a more generic place.11:10
CrazyRatThank you anyway , ikonia :)11:10
ikoniaCrazyRat: welcome11:10
mogsogok thanks11:10
dystopianraymogsog: no11:10
doug2266778822what is compize fusion room? last time i ask i will make note11:12
ikoniadoug2266778822: #compiz-fusion11:12
a_c_mThis is driving me nuts... i cant connect to a wifi network in (k)ubuntu that vista connects to without a problem, the card can see the network fine, i'm able to enter the WEP key - but then it fails. Syslog says 'association took too long (>60 s)' anyone help? willing to drop a few $ into a hat for this (be it your hat or ubuntus)11:12
doug2266778822ikonia:  thank you11:12
ikoniaa_c_m: no need for $11:13
ikoniaa_c_m: the most common cause of this is a timeout due to the encyption type being wrong on ubuntu11:13
JPSmancpkl: oh the irony.  I need the latest Kernel headers to create a new rt2500 driver       xOP  !!11:13
a_c_mikonia i kind of assumed that... but the encryption type is correct, i know as i'm using it now (from vista)11:14
ikoniaa_c_m: what encyption type is it ?11:14
a_c_mikonia WEP11:14
a_c_mikonia 128 bit key, given to me as a asci string11:15
ikoniaa_c_m: ok, so I don't know how kubuntu displays this but in the gnome network config thee are multiple options for wep11:15
JPSmanActionParsnip:  oh the irony.  I need the latest Kernel headers to create a new rt2500 driver       xOP  !!11:15
ikoniaJPSman: we saw you the first time11:15
a_c_mikonia yeah i get a few options too, tried them all11:15
JPSmanikonia: I didnt think/dont know he was on11:15
ikoniaa_c_m: also, you may want to check that wep is actually supported/stable on your card11:16
ikoniaJPSman: doesn't matter - you posted it in channel, EVERYONE saw it11:16
a_c_mikonia agreed, however i've had this problem on non WEP enabled networks11:16
ikoniaa_c_m: when I say suported stable, I mean with the linux driver your using, of course it's supported as your using it in windows11:16
ikoniaa_c_m: an interesting test would be to disable the encyption on the network and see if it can join11:16
a_c_mtrying that now11:17
a_c_mikonia you about for a bit?11:17
ikoniaa_c_m: another thing to check is make sure what your gui or /etc/interfaces file says your card is setup with, matches what iwconfig says11:17
ikoniaa_c_m: I'll be around in/out for a while11:17
ikoniaa_c_m: I have a common issue with a certain make/model of card that when I disable encyption in the gui, I have to disable it using iwconfig as it doesn't actually hit the card through the gui11:18
cpk1JPSman: if you are using the 2.6.24 kernel on hardy you can use apt to get the kernel headers, if you are on gutsy you can get the .22 headers from apt11:19
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JPSmancpkl:  I am using 2.6.22 on hardy   :O'11:20
ikoniaJPSman: is there a reason your using that version with hardy ?11:20
JPSmancpkl:  thing is, if I build a driver on .22  will it work in .24?11:20
Kohelethits great not to be alone11:20
Kohelethhehe11:20
dystopianrayJPSman: it will not11:20
cpk1JPSman: no11:20
A[D]minSDear all , how i can check the configuration of RAID from Linux?11:20
JPSmanikonia:  yes .24 has internet connection issues11:20
A[D]minSP.S its hardware RAID not Software11:21
ikoniaJPSman interenet connection issues, ??? do you mean network card stability ?11:21
cpk1JPSman: but like I said before, if the only reason you want to use .22 is because of the wireless you might as well use .24 since you are building the drivers yourself11:21
ikoniaA[D]minS: look at the tools your hardware vendor has supplied11:21
JPSmanikonia:  yes - .24's rt2500 drivers are buggy11:21
JPSmancpkl:  yeah I want to - but at the tutorial says "Please note you will need to have an active internet connection for these instructions to work, so you may need to hook up via ethernet temporarily."11:22
JPSmanand since I dont have one in .24    i am caught in a catch 22 :OD11:22
roocraigI have the following error and I would like to get it handled-any help would be appreciated     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64097/11:22
cpk1JPSman: you don't have an ethernet port?11:22
JPSmancpkl:  I dont have internet.  I am leeching off my neighbors in an apartment complex   -  beggers cant be choosers11:23
ikoniaJPSman why are you in catch 22, just get the headers and kernel source for 24 on your 22 box11:23
JPSmanwhere do the 24 install while i'm running 22?11:23
JPSmanwhere does apt-get install essentials put things?11:24
cpk1JPSman: you can use everything out of bin and sbin dont worry11:24
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cpk1JPSman: did you read this page at all? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT2500?highlight=%28ralink%2911:25
JPSmanI am at that page now currently yes11:25
roocraigI have tried a few things but I have been told it is not a bad install per se-any suggestions?11:25
cpk1JPSman: section 4.4 seems pretty easy to follow11:25
oholikshello, will there be a new version tomorrow? I tried to upgrade today but it want's to remove alot of essential programs such a xsetroot, xlogo, xmms!, xdpyinfo etc, is this to be expected?11:26
billgoldbergbulbulbred, nice to see a fellow countrymen. I was feeling left out.11:26
cpk1JPSman: since you are in the .22 kernel though will will need to replace the $(uname -r) in linux-headers-$(uname -r) with the correct version for .24 which you will be using11:27
JPSmancpkl:  can I install it while I am running .22?11:27
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cpk1JPSman: you can install build essential and the kernel headers11:27
babohas anyone gotten recordmydesktop to work on their system ?11:28
JPSmanOk i'll try that.  I didnt know that I could load other driver headers while using a different kernel11:28
roocraigDoes anybody know about the error I am receiving after I install a program? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64097/11:28
billgoldbergbabo, yes11:28
popeybillgoldberg: yes, frequently11:28
cpk1JPSman: save that web page to your computer so after you get the .24 kernels you can boot into .24 and finish compiling the kernel and loading it11:28
fiyawerxFor someone impatient, what do you miss out on by downloading the RC a day before the release?11:28
babobillgoldberg, did it recognize your soundcard straight off ? Also, how did you activate the GUI client ?11:29
dystopianrayfiyawerx: nothing11:29
dystopianrayfiyawerx: install and upgrade and you'll be at the same point as the final tomorrow11:29
fiyawerxdystopianray: cool, was hoping that was the answer11:29
cpk1possible last minute changes on the cd if you are someone with limited bandwidth right?11:29
billgoldbergno, never got the sound working, but I added sound to it using avidemux, Use gtkrecordmydesktop for the gui11:29
dystopianrayfiyawerx: if you can don't get the RC, get one the latest daily livecd build11:29
JPSmanLOL11:29
dystopianrayfiyawerx: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/11:29
fiyawerxkubuntu rc torrent coming in at 900kB/sec so can't complain, will check tha tout thanks dys11:30
roocraigCan anyone help me with a sound issue: I have sound through the headphones but not through my laptop speakers-I am a newbie and need some help please11:30
billgoldbergroocraig, download "gnome alsamixer" from synatpic and max everyting11:30
cpk1JPSman: keep in mind also you might have to blacklist the headers that came with the .24 kernel11:31
billgoldbergroocraig, or "alsamixer" in the terminal11:31
babobillgoldberg, how did you activate it though ?11:31
baboDISPLAY=:0 && gtk-recordmydesktop11:31
babonothing11:31
JPSmancpkl: blacklist?11:31
billgoldbergbabo, the gui?11:31
babobillgoldberg, right11:32
baboit doesn't show on gnome for me, even after i do a killall11:32
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billgoldbergyou need to download gtk record my desktop using synaptic or add/remove11:32
cpk1JPSman: basically tell the computer not to use the driver in the .24 kernel, that wiki page you are looking at also has a section about that11:32
babobillgoldberg, oops, my fault sorry :-(11:32
babogot it ...11:32
billgoldberg:p11:33
babobillgoldberg, it did show up11:33
JPSmancpkl: hrm no i'm going to try to do all of this while running .2411:33
JPSmanbbl - wish me luck11:33
roocraigbillgoldberg: i ran that and maxed everything, but still no sound-what else can I do or what other commands do you want me to run?11:34
ubuntuwww.contundenteehem@hotmail.com11:34
roocraigi ran that and maxed everything, but still no sound-what else can I do or what other commands should I run to try and get some sound?11:35
cRyPt0hello. i have just installed horde3. how can i test that horde has installed corrected. my aim is to install chora2 for SVN11:36
fiyawerxaw kubuntu and ubuntu going fast, xubuntu crawling heh11:36
cRyPt0i'm using ubuntu 7.10 (server)11:36
ThomasWaldmanncould someone using ubuntu's recent firefox security upgrade please reproduce a problem?11:36
ThomasWaldmannwe have a wiki page and when I visit it, firefox crashes/terminates completely for me11:37
ikoniacRyPt0: horde3 is debian ?11:37
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: 2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 ?11:37
DephenomHi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated11:37
icy_my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?11:37
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: yes11:38
roocraigI have a Realtek ALC861-VD soundcard. Any suggestions on how to get it to produce some sound for me-I have it through the headphones but not the laptop speakers-any help?11:38
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: where is this wiki?11:38
yowshigrrr somehow i got my ubuntu thinking that my camera is off when cheese is recording a video11:38
yowshii am trying to piece together sopmething i could put on youtube11:38
cRyPt0ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/all/horde-sam11:38
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox11:38
yowshianyone able to help?11:38
ikoniacRyPt0: ok, so software not the Os product. What do you want to do ?11:38
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: seems to work, anything in particular I need to do?11:39
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cRyPt0ikonia: i have SVN set up on my ubuntu 7.10 (server). I wish to install chora (http://www.horde.org/chora/docs/?f=INSTALL.html) so that users can view SVN repository via web browser. can you please help11:40
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: if i go to that url, it crashes after about 9s11:40
Pady92Can wine play 3d games with opengl setup in ubuntu?11:40
ThomasWaldmann(while still showing the load indicator)11:40
yao_ziyuanhow do i log in as root to a gnome/kde dession?11:40
yao_ziyuan*session11:40
ikoniacRyPt0: what do you want help with, you've not told me what the problem is, just what you want to do ?11:40
ikoniayao_ziyuan: you don't11:40
yao_ziyuanikonia: i want to change root's kde theme11:40
CrazyRatuse sudo when you need root permission11:40
ikoniayao_ziyuan: why ?? you don't login to kde as root, so it shouldn't have a theme11:41
yao_ziyuanikonia: i want to sudo "System Settings"11:41
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: i'm not experiencing any crashes here11:41
Pady92Any1?11:41
ikoniayao_ziyuan: why ?11:41
yao_ziyuanikonia: what is the command for system settings?11:41
dystopianrayyao_ziyuan: try kcontrol11:41
ikoniayao_ziyuan: root should not have a kde profile11:41
yao_ziyuanikonia: when i use sudo adept-manager, it shows a different kde theme than other apps11:41
icy_my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?11:42
roocraigdoes anyone know how to install a soundcard driver?11:42
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: strange. it is reproducable here. maybe it is some kind of badly handled timeout? my machine is 1ghz/1gb.11:42
cRyPt0ikonia: currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser11:42
Pady92Im new in irc chat. Sorry 4 ne mistake i may hav done11:42
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: do you have any extensions installed? I have a virgin firefox11:42
gnuskoolwho is using firefox 3 on hardy?11:43
CrazyRatme....11:43
CrazyRat3.0b511:44
gnuskoolis it as fast as they say? do older extensions still work?11:44
DephenomHi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated11:44
geirhaPady92: you can play some opengl games with wine, yes. Search for your game at http://appdb.winehq.org/ to see how well it works11:44
yao_ziyuanif you change your kde theme,11:44
yao_ziyuanit won't affect adept-manager11:44
CrazyRatchatzilla, dta still works11:44
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: disabled all extensions, still crashing11:44
CrazyRatMediaWrap works11:45
yao_ziyuanbecause adept-manager is run as root, which seems to use another theme profile11:45
* ThomasWaldmann suspects the flash plugin11:45
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: are you running 32-bit 7.10 ?11:45
yao_ziyuanhow do i set adept-manager's kde theme?11:45
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: yes11:45
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: i'm not getting any flash appearing on the page11:45
CrazyRatI have no problem visiting site with flash11:45
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: ther are some links to swf files at the bottom11:45
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: I just made an edit to the page11:45
ikoniacRyPt0: sorry, I missed tha last comment as someone was talking to me11:46
cRyPt0ikonia: here is what I said earlier.11:47
cRyPt0ikonia: currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser11:47
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: still crashed afterwards. i reverted to an older version of that page, now it stopped crashing.11:47
knexxcan any1 help me?11:48
dystopianrayThomasWaldmann: I didn't get any crashes from that page11:48
polywaffleim looking through my registry11:48
jhoc2xhi to all.. ^_^11:48
cRyPt0ikonia: do you understand what i'm trying to do?11:49
ThomasWaldmanndystopianray: it must be the flash stuff at the bottom, that's the only difference11:49
DephenomHi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated11:49
eth01just ask...11:49
ikoniacRyPt0: I think so11:49
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JPSmancpkl: when i test the built rt2500.ko it says "insmod: error inserting 'rt2500.ko': -1 File exists"  is that because the drivers are already integrated into the .24 kernel?11:51
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amorphousan app to connect my telephone to the pc and make calls/take messages etc? I can only find softphone options on google, and I'm after a normal telephone plugged into a modem...?11:52
doug2266778822how do i put a trash can on my desktop?11:53
jrib!icons > doug2266778822 (read the private message from ubotu)11:54
doug2266778822jrib:  thank you11:54
DephenomHi Guys, I have a strange problem with my sound, it is all working but when I plug external speakers into the jack on the side of my laptop I still get the sound coming out of the laptop speaker, I have looked on http://help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org and there is nothing there, any help would be aprecieated11:54
cRyPt0Eikonia: u there?11:54
amorphousno..?11:55
babohas anyone had issues with recordmydesktop recognizing the sound device ?11:56
drivetraxhi... I noticed that my workspace only shows ONE workspace... when it is set to 4 columns and One Row11:57
amorphousare there no telephone gui's that are not IP phone?11:57
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JPSmonI am on my laptop11:57
drivetraxWhen I click on it, the screens change, but there are no labels11:57
drivetraxAlso, when I set a first workspace.. the rest are .. like Voids, no menus, nothing but desktops11:58
cRyPt0Ehi guys currently i can view my SVN repository using web browswer (using apache server). however, this gives a very basic tree structure. horde (chora) gives a better interface to SVN repository so I'm trying to install horde (and then chora). i have installed horde3 and chora2. however i'm stuck - as in what to do next so that i can vew the chora interface via the web browser11:59
drivetraxIf you have an ATI 9600 series video card, the Restricted driver doesn't do much good11:59
Daonixhello! Is there any easy way to install Enlightenment?12:00
dystopianraycRyPt0E: you'll want to refer to chora's documentation12:00
eckesicle!skype > eckesicle12:00
geoaxishello people, offically Ubuntu is to be released tomorrow, but would there be any difference in the CD imagof hardy thats available right now? at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc12:00
CrazyRatbye all, out for dinner12:00
drivetraxgeoaxis:  RC means release candidate..12:00
Serengaeth{V}Hi #ubuntu12:01
MTBom Dia...12:01
_MaxPower_I've been trying to install Enlightenment for 10 Years .. LOL12:01
prodigelHi. I'm having trouble with my window manager. It freezes even when trying to change background color or view panel properties.  Can someone help me debugg it?12:01
Serengaeth{V}I've come to a realisation. I hate Windows Vista. Ubuntu is downloading, is this a good place to lurk for advice?12:01
MTHi! Can somebody help a "first timer" in linux - ubuntu, Please?12:02
Daonix_MaxPower_, U was trying to install E in Windos?)12:02
drivetraxSerengaeth{V}:  yes12:02
drivetraxSerengaeth{V}:  can dual boot12:02
_MaxPower_No ... Not on windows .. I started with redhat linux version 512:02
Serengaeth{V}drivetrax: Excellent. I understand I can boot from disc and take a look?12:03
Daonixprodigel, ar u using GNOME?12:03
drivetraxSerengaeth{V}:  - yes, oh yes.. I used Unetbootin, no burn install12:03
geoaxisdrivetrax:  right ..but would there be any difference ie last minute bug fixes perhaps12:03
MTis it possible to keep using windows while getting started with linux on the same laptop?12:04
hwilde_!dualboot | MT12:04
ubotuMT: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:04
drivetraxgeoaxis:  -- Cursors, a user in compiz said.. to get the one that does not has RC12:04
JPSmonwhats up MT?12:05
MTwas that an answer for me- MT?12:05
badaboombonjour12:05
MTthe "Dual Boot" ?12:05
Daonixanswer is "yes"12:05
hwilde_!live | MT12:05
ubotuMT: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.12:05
badaboomje cherche le chat français d'ubuntu ?12:05
hwilde_!fr | badaboom12:05
ubotubadaboom: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:05
badaboommerci !12:06
MTThanks a lot!12:06
prodigelDaonix: yes12:06
Daonixprodigel: sudo apt-get remove nautilus   sudo apt-get install nautilus12:07
prodigelDaonix: is something common, or how do you know this exact thing will work?12:08
badaboomthe RC of ubuntu 8.04 is stable or not please ?12:08
hwilde_prodigel, is it frozen right now?   type   metacity --replace12:08
badaboomsorry for my english12:08
bloeperBadaboom: tommorow is the real stable version12:08
prodigelhwilde_: it is .. .will try12:08
hwilde_badaboom, RC is Release Candidate -  ie if it is stable it will be the release12:09
Daonixprodigel, i have had problem with my WM this morning...12:09
effie_jayxheh, topic should say somthing like "It is out when it is ready, we are debian based" :D12:09
hwilde_you can just upgrade you know what's the big deal12:09
bloepermaybe we should12:09
badaboombut this day, the version is not stable ?...12:09
Daonixreinstall will be needed if u often have problems12:09
bloeperbut if we can believe the ubuntu.com site it comes tommorw12:09
bloeper*tomorrow12:09
_moro_bana_how is flash coming up, still broken?12:09
badaboomi'm impatient... :/12:10
bloeperit's kind of stable but if you have time i should wait until tomorrow12:10
drivetraxwell.. the RC means release candidate, the final one might be another one from their dev team12:10
iceswordking of kongfu12:10
badaboomok...12:10
_moro_bana_!flash12:10
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash12:10
prodigelhwilde_: didn't do the trick. metacity isn't the problem12:10
badaboomattendons demais ;)12:10
bloeperwhy the hurry if i may ask?12:11
prodigelDaonix: I've reinstalled nautilus, should I restart x?12:11
hwilde_prodigel, ok then    sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart12:11
prodigelDaonix: I've tried restarting x earlier and it freezes totalli12:11
Daonixar u using compiz?12:11
bloeperneed to go12:11
hwilde_!display | prodigel12:11
bloepercya later12:11
ubotuprodigel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:11
prodigelhwilde_: no12:11
zigfordIn the past I have heard that id you run a RC, you should fresh install the final release when it is available.  Is this still true?12:11
iceswordking of kongfu, anyone seen that film12:12
Piciicesword: offtopic12:12
iceswordit is cooooool12:12
prodigelDaonix: No. using metacity12:12
Picizigford: No, that is not necessary, further Hardy questions in #ubuntu+1 please12:13
zigfordk12:13
Daonixprodigel: try to reinstall compiz, metacity and nautilus. I`m sure it would help12:13
iceswordPici, it is very cool, just take your gf to cinema to see...12:13
Piciicesword: Please, you know about #ubuntu-offtopic, and why such discussion is not on-topic in #ubuntu12:14
iceswordk12:14
drivetraxPici:  - why does my workspace only show "desk 1"12:14
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Picidrivetrax: Perhaps you only have one workspace?12:15
drivetraxPici:  - if I click on it, it zooms to the other windows12:15
Picidrivetrax: What is 'it'?12:15
drivetraxthe panel12:15
Picidrivetrax: Do you mean that it slides the desk to the left or right?12:16
badaboomcan is possible of overclocking on ubuntu ?12:16
badaboom(sorry)12:16
drivetraxyeah yes12:16
badaboom?12:16
drivetraxBut, those are not labeled, and nothing is on them12:16
Picidrivetrax: Thats normal, if you want to customize that action, you can install compizconfig-settings-manager12:16
Pici!ccsm | drivetrax12:16
ubotudrivetrax: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion12:16
drivetraxwell... yes, I did that, but as of three days ago, I have not been able to view a cube12:17
Picidrivetrax: It sounds like compiz is enabled, have you asked the folks in #compiz-fusion about changing the configuration to enable the cube?12:18
drivetraxPici:  - I am looking for extra desktops, virtual space, not eye candy12:18
Picidrivetrax: In the general tab of ccsm you can increase the number of virtual desktops... Horizontal size I believe it is called.12:18
drivetraxgives it a look12:18
guja_nebeskaOjha.12:19
luigixwewer12:19
* Daonix is looking for people using Enlightenment12:21
ricanelitetomorrow, will a update come up to upgrade to Hardy? Cause right now I'm running Hardy RC12:22
ricaneliteso I will just get a update to to install the updates?12:22
Pici!final > ricanelite (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)12:22
antonhi i have a new dell laptop and it has a vista installed on it i want to shift to ubuntu gutsy what is the best partition i would do? Help anyone.. Thank you!12:22
ricaneliteOh wow really12:23
ricaneliteokay cool12:23
Daonixфтещтб црфе г ьуфт гтвук Эиуые зфкешешщтЭ,12:23
Daonixanton, wnat d u mean under "best partition"?12:24
antonDaonix: it has 2 partitions under vista 1st is 140gb and then 2nd is 10 gb12:25
Daonix10Gb is enough for installing Ubuntu12:25
antonDaonix: I want to completely use it for ubuntu12:25
Daonixbut i recommend u to remove Vista at all12:25
antonDaonix: what do u suggest ?12:25
antonDaonix: yes that was really my Idea12:26
Daonixi think: 10 Gb volume -- for system(ubuntu). 140 Gb volume -- for anything another12:26
icy_my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?12:26
Daonixsystem volume should be ReiserFS12:26
icy_system valume should be ext312:27
antonDaonix: ok then thanks.. Im new in linux and i want to learn more about ubuntu12:27
prodigelDaonix: Just restarted my system. restarting gdm gave a black screen, restarting X, after login nothing was displayed. any other ideas12:27
prodigel?12:27
antonDaonix: ReiserFS???12:27
Daonixyes!12:27
antonDaonix: what is the diff between Ext2 and ReiserFS?12:28
Daonixthere ar some problems appearing sometimes with ext3...12:28
antonDaonix: why?12:28
Picianton: Reiserfs is not reccomended for users who do not have a specific need to use it12:28
Daonixthe first problem: it sometimes doesn`t installs12:28
DaonixPici, not true12:29
anton?????12:29
anton:)12:29
Daonixext3 is wery unlikely for Reset-users))12:29
icy_Daonix: there's a reason why ext3 is the default with most distros12:29
PiciDaonix: reset users?12:29
antonDaonix: Reset-users?12:30
prodigelDaonix: sorry for the private, by mistake12:30
Daonixpeoples, who have habit of using Reset as often as in Windows...12:30
icy_what are you talking about?12:30
icy_it's a journaled fs, no problems there12:30
PiciDaonix: No one should do that regardless of the operating system, and is a silly reason for choosing one FS over another12:30
_mikatomorrow will be released hardy, right? does someone know if there is any specific time? or just during the day ?12:30
Daonixprodigel, u have reinstalled all three packages and it didnt help?12:30
prodigelDaonix: reinstalled nautilus12:31
prodigelDaonix: what are the other 2?12:31
Pici_mika: no specific time, you can wait in #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement though12:31
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Daonixprodigel, try reinstalling metacity12:31
_mikaPici: ok12:31
prodigelDaonix: so nautilus, metacity and the thirds one is?12:32
bastid_raZorDaonix; reiserfs is dead..12:32
antonDaonix: ok then .. Ill use feiser. are there any complications using Feiser?12:32
torgrimtwhy is it dead?12:32
icy_do not use reiser12:32
Daonixprodigel, try alsa reinstall compiz...12:32
Pici!reiser | anton please read this12:32
ubotuanton please read this: reiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html12:32
prodigelDaonix: not using compiz12:32
torgrimtthere was resently some patches in the kernel for it? ;)12:32
icy_anton: ext3 is perfectly stable, use this. it's the most used one12:32
torgrimtext3 is pretty slow12:33
JPSmanHELP I have no functioning internet now.  I know that sounds like a joke but really I dont12:33
torgrimtfor a workstation its fine ;)12:33
prodigelDaonix: one more thing: I'm using --purge usually when removing packages. should I do the same with these ones?12:33
antonicy: well ok .. thanks12:33
JPSmanusing my laptop to talk to you guys12:33
antonicy: i guess ill stick to ext312:33
bastid_raZortorgrimt; the creator is in jail for murder. reiser4 is the new yet unimplemented file system12:33
icy_anton: it's the default with ubuntu anyway :)12:33
Daonixprodigel, i used "sudo apt-get remove" and then installed. It helped12:34
antondo i need a voting poll for feiser and ext3? lol12:34
sajuukhey fellas, been upgrading dapper to hardy12:34
antonicy: i guess ur right :)12:34
Picisajuuk: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.12:34
antonicy: u have a point12:34
sajuukrightio thx12:34
Daonixanton, it is not voting, it is Holywar ]:->12:35
ironic_isnt_itim using ubuntu 7.10. how would i switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc? im a total linux newb yes lol.12:35
antonlol holy war..12:35
antonicy: got any messenger?12:35
torgrimtbastid_raZor: its still open source.12:35
torgrimtdo you think linux will die if mister torvalds goes to jail?12:36
Daonixanton, the default messenger is Pidgin12:36
torgrimtor bill gates?12:36
alteregoahow can i speedup ext3?12:36
guja_nebeskaOjha.12:36
ironic_isnt_itanyone can tell me how, under what menu?12:36
torgrimtalteregoa: you can speed up with diabling journal(dont do that..) or you can mount fs with noadirtime and so12:37
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guja_nebeskaAnyone using Hardy on Macbook?12:37
antonDaonix: i have a built in cam and pidgin doesnt have camera chat.. are there any that supports webcam?12:37
Daonixtorgrimt, can u write scripts without Torvald`s bless?12:37
jasuhello, anyone using Ubuntu 8.04 + scim + amsn , and experiences keyboard lock-ups? and text disappearing when typing on kmail with scim?12:37
Daonixanton, may be u should try Ekiga?12:38
antonDaonix: ok thank you12:38
icy_my mousewheel stopped scrolling (nautilus, firefox etc) but clicking still works. what could be the cause for that?12:39
Daonix!enlightenment12:39
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.12:39
torgrimtDaonix: yes? ;)12:39
Daonixyes))12:39
antonDaonix: right now im downloading gutsy for my specific laptop and its the size is too big about 4.2 GB I Hope it works im way excited :)12:39
Daonixand don`t care about our Torvald`s)12:40
Daonixanton, it would work. I bless You))))12:41
ironic_isnt_iti dont mean to be pushy but ive got to be leaving for work soon. can someone tell me how to do it?12:41
antonDaonix: are using a laptop 2? coz its my 1st time to install in laptop12:42
splobyCan some one help me with setting a dual monitor with ATI?12:43
DaonixI am using on laptop too. There are no problems12:43
antonDaonix: really what is the brand of yours?12:43
JPSmanHow can I revert my rt2500 driver back to the original install?12:44
DaonixToshiba Satellite(((12:44
antonDaonix: oh i see .. nice..12:44
Viele-baerenhi12:44
Daonixanton, the first thing to do: find hard drive saving applet %)12:44
Akhorahilhi all, someone around who uses ebox on 8.04?12:45
antonDaonix: what is hard drive saving applet?12:45
PiciAkhorahil: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.12:46
Daonixi don`t know how to say it in english... find out about HDD spoiling...12:46
Akhorahilyeah already did, shame on me for not reading the topic first12:46
antonDaonix: what does it do?12:46
Pars1hi, i think my second hard disk that i installed Ubuntu on it don't work, therefore GRUB cannot be loaded on start-up and shows "Error 5", can i remove GRUB and run my Windows XP (i have installed Windows XP)?12:47
LeeuwHow do I get my menubar back in Kopete ?12:47
ironic_isnt_iti wanna switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc. how do i do it?12:47
antonDaonix: is it for backup??12:49
Daonixanton, read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3675960&postcount=2612:49
LainIwakuraI am preparing to reinstall Windows and Ubuntu 8.04.. Is there a way to install WinXP on a preconfigured partition, so I can simply install 8.04 on the remaining empty partition? Thanks.12:49
Daonixi`m not sure the problem is solved in 8.0412:49
ironic_isnt_itthis is my first time using irc. my messages are goin through right?12:50
antonDaonix: ok ill read it 1st..12:50
Pars1anyone read my question?12:50
LainIwakuraironic_isnt_it: yes it is12:50
Leeuwironic_isnt_it: yes they are, eventhough ours don´ t ;-)12:50
erUSUL!dualboot | LainIwakura12:51
ubotuLainIwakura: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:51
Daonix!E12:51
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.12:51
d4t4min31wasn't the release supposed to be today12:51
LainIwakurai read that already, but thanks12:51
LainIwakurait doesn't provide instructions on how to install winxp on a preconfigured partition size12:51
d4t4min31yesterday the site said one day to go... today it still says one day to go12:51
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yowshii get it now. for some reason when sound recorder is on and i use cheese to record video while sound recorder is recording sound the webcam shuts off12:51
ironic_isnt_itok cool if someone can just tell me how to switch over to oss ill be out yallz hair ;-)12:52
yowshii want to record videos with sound and i would prefer not to use cinerella. i cant figure out how to make that programme work12:53
antonDaonix: can u teach how do i start as soon as i finish downloading my gutsy?12:53
antonDaonix: can u teach me how do i start as soon as i finish downloading my gutsy?12:54
Daonix_afknot now, sorry12:54
antonDaonix: ok12:54
* Daonix_afk is not here12:54
aaronMhi12:54
bazhanganton: teach you what12:55
Ulmihi all, i'm swithching to ubuntu on my work but my system admins know less than me about linux! Everthing is going smoothly except to the network printers12:56
Ulmithe printers are on a windows server domain that i access with no fuss and added the xerox worcenter pro c2128 printer without any problem and use the ppd that's on the xerox site for the printer.12:57
antonbazhang: how do i start installing my laptop with ubuntu gutsy..12:57
UlmiHowever the problem I run into is that the printer as job accounts ID, so when i try to print, cups or ubuntu doesn't ask me for that password, does anyone know how to get around this? Try to search the  forum and google about with no success, any help is welcome and thnx in advance for ur time or any help.12:57
bazhanganton: this is the livecd?12:57
Robert125Is the date of tomorrow still right for the new ubuntu version?12:57
bazhangRobert125: yes12:57
splobyanyone?12:57
Robert125thanks12:58
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JPSmancan anyone help me revert my rt2500 drivers back to 8.04 ac's distro?12:58
antonbazhang: ahmm.. im still downloading the ISO image12:58
bazhangsploby: late getting here; what is your issue12:58
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splobydual monitor on ATI driver12:58
bazhanganton: does not answer my question12:58
bazhangsploby: dual head or shared desktop with two monitors12:59
antonbazhang: livecd?12:59
antonbazhang:  Dell OS Reinstallation 7.10 DVD ISO12:59
splobybazhang: Dual Head, because right now i just have  monitor but one of them is a clone12:59
bazhang!dualhead | sploby read this first13:00
ubotusploby read this first: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama13:00
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mrkeishii_okay13:01
mrkeishii_lol13:01
ironic_isnt_itthis is a simple question. can someone plz tell me how to switch from alsa to oss for all sound on my pc? 7.10 is my version13:02
AdysAny idea how to enable the virtual terminals? for some reason i lost them all at some point13:02
antonbazang: im downloading it and then i will burn it in dvd..13:02
splobybazhang; thank you i will read, if i get nothing i recall help here ^_^13:03
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bazhangsploby: no worries ;]13:04
antonbazhang: are you using a laptop?13:05
bazhanganton: yes but not a dell13:05
antonbazhang: what is it?13:05
bazhanganton: thinkpad13:05
ushimitsudokiironic_isnt_it: actually I'm not sure that is a simple question...I think applications chose which sound system to use, so you will have to take some action for each application that requires it?13:06
antonbazhang: i see does it have a windows pre installed on it ?13:06
bazhanganton: it did for about 10 minutes ;]13:06
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antonbazhang: r u using ubuntu right now? do u encountered problems during installation of linux?13:08
bazhanganton: yes am using ubuntu now; no problems with installation since feisty13:08
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antonbazhang: do u use the entire disk for ubuntu?13:10
ariossomebody help me13:11
Piciarios: You need to ask a question first13:11
udhawith what?13:11
ironic_isnt_itushimitsudoki i see that i can change it in system > preferrences > sound just need to change all to oss right?13:12
ariosi'm new in ubuntu13:12
JPSmancan anyone tell me about modules.dep?13:12
arioshow can i enable duo moniter?13:12
udhaSystem - > Admin -> Screens and Graphics13:12
JPSmanarios: what version are you running?13:12
arios7.1013:13
udhaarios, you will need to be an administrator to use that tool though.13:13
ariosok13:13
bazhanganton: aye13:13
dfmrHi13:13
udhaAny old-time xorg/xfree86 conf file hackers around?13:13
ikoniaudha: whats the problem13:14
user11i am on !hardy13:14
user11:-))13:14
ikoniauser11: hardy support is in #ubuntu+113:14
user11!hardy13:14
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!13:14
ushimitsudokiironic_isnt_it: What i mean is I think some applications ignore that and won't use oss unless you take application-specific action? I know for example, I need to force some oss-only apps to use alsa so they play nice together. I assume it works the same way in reverse, like games that use ALSA, you have to manually force them to use OSS? Just something to keep in mind13:14
pTeraBiThey13:14
the0hello13:14
blivorihow do I make a user to autologin o nstartup?13:14
the0how do i enebale desktop effects in 8.04 (I got an ati)13:14
ahmadhello13:14
udhaikonia, I have ubuntu 7.10, had internal graphics disabled, then added a geforce 6600 pci express, it's gone now, and the internal graphics keeps resetting to 640x48013:15
Picithe0: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.13:15
udhaI have to keep running dpkg-reconfigure on the xorg-server13:15
DracoZA_blivori, System - Administration - Login Window13:15
ikoniaudha: ok, so your now only running of your internal graphics card ?13:15
ironic_isnt_itok so for some apps it wont work ill need to force 'em13:15
dfmrI have a problem with PHP. I followed this guide :http://joeabiraad.com/linuxunix/installing-lamp-on-ubuntu-710-linuxapachemysqlphp/100 . I did everything as they say and can't get apache parse PHP code. What can be the reason?13:15
XB23guys is it possible to do a clean install of mysql using apt-get so it removes everything and starts it again?13:15
user11On hardy which is the best java package to install which wont break and gives me Java and Jre together13:15
blivoriDracoZA_: thanks <313:15
udhadfmr, do you have a link available so I can see the output of a php test page? such as <?php phpinfo(); ?>13:16
Piciuser11: Please ask in #ubuntu+1 not #ubuntu13:16
udhaXB23, ther is a way to get apt to purge all files,13:16
ahmadI have ubuntu 7.10 and have skystar2 but dvice not here13:16
XB23how do i do that udha?13:16
dfmrIt parse this function. It displays it as plain text13:16
dfmr It deosnt parse this function.13:17
dfmrsorry13:17
XB23ive totally locked myself out of mysql so i need to reinstall it13:17
udhaXB23, google it, sorry but I've got to run and I don't know off the top of my head, but there is an option so that it totally purges all files, conf etc13:17
Picidfmr: Try `sudo a2enmod php5` then `sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart`13:17
ironic_isnt_itwell if i have to force an app from time to i can live with that13:17
ahmadplz help to skystar2 in ubuntu 7.1013:17
Piciahmad: What is a skystar2?13:18
ahmadstalait card  sky star213:18
ikoniastalait ?13:18
ironic_isnt_italright im gonna try it out. ill just screenshot the sound window in case i need to revers things ty13:19
ahmadok Tv card13:19
ikoniaahmad: is it linux supported/compatible ?13:19
ushimitsudokiironic_isnt_it: alright then good luck!13:19
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elmargolikonia, yes skystar is linux compatible...13:20
ahmadok thinks13:20
elmargolahmad, I think you are missing the firmware13:20
ahmadbey13:20
ikoniaelmargol: what driver does it use/want ?13:20
dfmrPici: Still same problem13:20
Picidfmr: hm.. I had that problem on one of my servers and I thought thats what I did to fix it...13:21
splobyNo, i got no lucky on dual-head, could some one explain how to on ATI?13:21
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elmargolikonia, don't know I only have the airstar13:21
ikoniaelmargol: but your confident the card is compatible13:21
ikoniaahmad`: what driver is your card using ?13:21
neo1iteanyone here got vnc working over 8.04?13:22
elmargolikonia, http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_TV_PCI_/_Sky2PC_PCI13:22
parfuhello, anybody knows if there is an announcement about ubuntu's new release time ?13:22
ikoniaelmargol: thank you13:22
dfmrI can't get apache to parse PHP code. Ive tried to  sudo a2enmod php5` and invoke-rc.d apache2 restart but it didnt help. Anyone?13:23
elmargolskystar2 is the name of the driver13:23
goodhabitneo1ite, it is don't working? I cannot find with who I can test it.13:23
ikoniaelmargol: but it depends on the card revision13:23
DJonesikonia: Re Skystar2 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-60549.html (although its fairly old forum post)13:23
kahrytanWill this work in xorg  ' "Modes "1440x900_75.00"  "800x600_60" ' and tell xorg not to use any other refresh rate for 800x600 then 6013:23
ikoniakahrytan: that will depend on the version13:24
djtanseyquick question: how do I reset all my desktop settings to the defaults? i just upgraded my main machine to hardy and would like to know how it's supposed to look/act by default.13:24
dfmrapache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 << is it all you need for apache +php ?13:24
kahrytanikonia-> the one in hardy (yes, asked in there) figured more knowledge be here)13:24
ikoniakahrytan: ooh come on, you know the rules13:25
RandocalCan anyone suggest a Linux alternative to something like Corel Draw?13:25
kahrytanikonia->  I tried.. waited. sorry.13:25
ikoniakahrytan: your chosing to run the beta version, be prepared for the limited support13:25
elmargolRandocal, inkscape13:25
kahrytanikonia->  give me a resource to check on my own?13:25
ikoniakahrytan: X.ORG13:25
ikoniax.org sorry13:25
RandocalThanks elmargol - I'll take a peek13:26
elmargolRandocal, http://www.linuxalt.com/13:26
kahrytanikonia->  anything userfriendly?13:26
plagerismhas anyone seen this error message before in regards to openssh client "channel 0: open failed: resource shortage: Channel open failed".   It only happens in hardy when connecting to our network switches13:26
aronHey13:27
plagerismIn gutsy we are able to connect withoout an issue13:27
dfmrIs there any alternative to Lotus notes and domino for linux?13:27
ikoniakahrytan: x.org13:27
ikoniakahrytan: very user friendly13:27
neo1iteif i VNC into my ubuntu,i get grey screen with big x mouse pointer - can someone help?13:27
kahrytanikonia->  not to me13:27
Randocalwww.linuxalt.com - that's a nice webpage. Excellent resource for a new convert. thank you =)13:27
elmargolhttp://www.osalt.com/corel-draw13:27
aronI need desperately to get php4 installed on my gutsy server, and used some hours now to try and compile it (without luck so far) Has anyone got a direct link to packages I can use, or documentation on how to build php and set it up with apache2?13:27
elmargolRandocal, maybe this site is helpfull aswell13:27
userbncwo_ndutz13:27
userbncwo_ndutz13:28
dfmrRandocal: It the answer was there I would ask13:28
dfmrI spend hours looking for something and all I found was complaints about the lack of a good open source PIM13:29
dfmrkurosaki13:30
omnz0raron: maybe an old debian mirror?13:30
roffe__does anyone know of a vnc-program for linux that works for displaying someone's ms windows?13:30
aronomnz0r: But won't that bring a package hell?13:31
ikoniaroffe__: vnc is platform independant13:31
omnz0rI have no idea aron, I was just spitting13:31
aronomnz0r: Perhaps I can add an old feisty one..13:31
goodhabitroffe__, highlight me please if you will find solution, ok?13:31
eroticonhello13:31
omnz0raron: yah perhaps13:31
eroticonwhen will 7.10 end of support be?13:31
eroticonerr13:32
omnz0rit was just to give input :)13:32
eroticon7.04 end of support.13:32
On3will ubuntu 8.04 have straight beryl support?13:32
samohey guys when is ubuntu 8.04 coming out? its the 24th and no download link for the final version?13:32
omnz0rI dunno if it'll work13:32
roffe__ikonia: is it? all vnc software?13:32
On3how many hours till it gets release?13:32
ikoniaroffe__: well vnc as a core compoent, yes13:32
eroticondoes anybody know when 7.04 end of support will be?13:32
On3released*13:32
ikoniaeroticon: 12 months support as I recall13:32
DJonessamo: Probably another 24-30 hours yet13:32
eroticonikonia: 12 months support starting from release date?13:33
ikoniaeroticon: yes13:33
ikoniaeroticon: I'll check that13:33
eroticonikonia: I appreciate your help, please see if you can provide me with an URL where I could read when 7.04 end of support will be happening13:33
roffe__ikonia: sounds great I really thought they'd only work on the same OS.13:33
roffe__Goodhabit: Sounds like it was solved pretty easy :)13:33
samoo i c, im in NZ so didnt think about that, what time zone is the ubuntu site?13:33
goodhabitroffe__, I'm sorry?13:34
HardyOneeroticon: 12 to 18 months www.ubuntu.com has the info13:34
DJoneseroticon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases13:34
HardyOneeroticon: LTS release get 3 to 5 years13:34
eroticonlet me see13:34
eroticonThanks folks13:34
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ikoniaeroticon: just grabbing the link, the site has changed a bit13:35
roffe__goodhabit: You wanted me to highlight you if I found a solution, ikonia said a linux-vnc can browse a ms windows one as a standard13:35
eroticonend of life means no security fixes will be released?13:36
ikoniaeroticon: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu13:36
ikoniaeroticon: 18 months support from release, 3 years support for LTS13:36
eroticonyeah im reading that13:36
ikoniaeroticon: it's more burried than it used to be13:36
HardyOneeroticon: yeah I think that is what it means. but if your os is that old you might want to consider upgrading anyway13:37
eroticonyup no more security updates.13:37
ikoniaHardyOne: not all the time, there are some pretty key changes in say 6.06 to 7.10 on it's own, in some situations it's worth staying on 6.0613:37
HardyOneeroticon: if you want to have the most support install the latest LTS and you will get at the minimum 3 years13:37
HardyOneikonia: even without security updates?13:38
ikoniaHardyOne: yes13:38
roffe__I'm going to download ubuntu asap tomorrow, I hope I get to feel some improvements... Are you guys happy with the RC?13:38
HardyOneikonia: but 6.06 to 8.04 ( both LTS ) should be ok I would hope13:38
ikoniaHardyOne: depends on your situation, for the mass market, yes, for certain business situations, no13:39
HardyOneroffe__: you might want to download now , install then final update tomorrow. use torrent if possible as to not kill the servers13:39
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HardyOneikonia: yes I see what you are saying13:39
pc03_#bandung13:40
berzerkais it possible to turn e.g. a kubuntu into a xubuntu installation? how much do these "distros" differ? will i get effectively the same installation if i simply install xfce?13:40
Symmetriacan someone remind me what the command to load the ubuntu ncurses partioining system is13:40
Symmetria(the partioning system they use in the installer)13:40
roffe__HardyOne: will I only need to do a minor update tomorrow then?13:40
aoupihi, I got a DVD+RW disc with a bunch of stuff on it. When I try recording through nautilus it asks if I want to erase the disc, I click Erase and it starts but after about 5secs it says: "There was an error writing to the disc:13:40
HardyOneberzerka: they differ quite abit in look and feel13:40
aoupiUnhandled error, aborting"13:40
HardyOneroffe__: hopefully it will be a minor/major upgrade or a major-minor :)13:41
berzerkaSymmetria: cfdisk maybe? i don't know what is used in the installation..13:41
Leeuwroffe__: loooove it, eventhough there´ s still a strange bug with tv-cards (tend to hang the system), and sometimes KDE keeps hanging in the air; that will no doubt be solved an even with the li´ l troublets I loooooove it !  It´ s great !13:41
eroticonthank you guys13:41
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roffe__HardyOne :) ok, I'll head over there now then...13:42
HardyOneroffe__: good idea wish I thought of it13:42
Symmetrianah its not cfdisk13:42
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berzerkaHardyOne: well, of course, they use a different desktop. but are there any _real_ differences, like specially patched software. i see that they are using the same software repository, so no.13:42
roffe__Leeuw: Ok, sounds awesome, so you found it to be that great, then I won't be unsatisfied!13:42
supzkiwhich ubuntu suports 3945 wirless and easiest to use?13:42
Leeuwroffe__: fer sure, nope13:43
ikoniasupzki: ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are the same base system13:43
aoupiI'll try using dvd+rw-format /dev/scd113:43
supzkiikonia: which is smallest? best13:43
ikoniasupzki: best is subjective, the base system is the same, but xubuntu will have the smallest desktop footprint13:43
Leeuwroffe__: except if you have a tv-card with philips chip; then it might hang and be useless; so either take it out, or find out if it´ s ben solved before upgrade13:43
jhoc2x_anyone?13:44
Leeuwroffe__: if you have one, that is13:44
supzkiwhats smallest desktop footprint hehe13:44
ikoniajhoc2x_: anyone what ?13:44
* Scrounch is now away: off13:44
ikoniajhoc2x_: saying "anyone" is the most poitnless thing13:44
supzkiikonia: all on one cd?13:44
HardyOneberzerka: no apps are interchangable from xubuntu/kubuntu/ubuntu one BIG issue is that your menus will end up a mish mash ok kde and xfce if you have the room do a seperate install. not easy to clean it all up afterwards when you decide to stick with one WM13:44
ikonia!away > Scrounch13:44
aoupidvd+rw-format -blank /dev/sdc1, will that erase everything and let me burn later?13:44
jhoc2x_ikonia: lol.. i raise a question.. ^_^ nobody did seem to care.. ^_^13:44
jhoc2x_ikonia: or maybe i was just... lagging... ^_6 sorry13:45
roffe__Leeuw: I lack one, unfortunately :)13:45
ikoniajhoc2x_: so why would saying "anyone" help anyone who missed the question, or prompt someone who didn't care to respond ?13:45
DracoZA_hey we all care :P13:45
aoupi -blank didn't work either, it says "illegal command-line option for this media."13:45
jhoc2x_i know.. it just seems.. ^_^    maybe i was just lagging.. ^_^13:45
berzerkaHardyOne: i don't use the desktop's menu anyway... so there is no real difference in the distros, and it could also be unified in one installation procedure where you get asked "which WM/Desktop do you want to install?" at the end?13:45
jhoc2x_latency is pretty high.. ^_613:45
ikoniajhoc2x_: please try to speak in english without lol rolf ^_^13:45
supzkiikonia: which one of them is 1 cd?13:46
dfmrapache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 << is it all you need for apache +php ?13:46
ikoniajhoc2x_: even if it's lagging saying "anyone" won't make anything else happen apart from get peoples backs up13:46
ikoniasupzki: all of them13:46
jhoc2x_anyway, i ask about... why my flash drive is not detected...13:46
Bert_2hi, I am trying to play the linux game uplink on my dual-screen PC but I can't get it to use another resoltion then the one I'm on now (so both the screens) does anyone have any idea how I can fix that ?13:46
KcajWhere can I submit a tutorial?13:46
ikoniaKcaj: the wiki page ?13:46
supzkiikonia: kubuntu fine?13:46
berzerkaHardyOne: i just don't see why they invent three apparently different distros only for a different choice of desktop. i find that confusing..13:47
ikoniaKcaj: you can give it to people in here to review for you13:47
KcajI'm about to attempt an install of the latest Ubuntu RC from Windows, on to a seperate hard drive.13:47
KcajI can do that, sure.13:47
ikoniasupzki: depends on your needs, if you like kde - sure13:47
ikoniaKcaj: thats not really going to be worth while as the release candidates go away in a day13:47
HardyOneberzerka: Xubuntu is meant for older hardware with less resources13:47
san|I have an issue mounting a SD card. Any special chanel for stuff like that?13:47
ikoniasan|: can the controller be seen ?13:47
berzerkaHardyOne: will a different kernel get installed? or any smaller set of software apart of the desktop part?13:48
jhoc2x_ikonia: any idea why my flash drive is not detected when i plug it in???  it work on my XP...13:48
aoupithere seems to be something wrong... brasero says: "Erorr blanking"13:48
Kcajikonia: Yeah but the methodology shouldn't change13:48
san|ikonia: yeah but I changed the 'mount options' under properties and now ubuntu can't mount the card anymore :(13:48
ikoniajhoc2x_: what works on XP is of no use to ubuntu. What file system is on it13:48
HardyOneberzerka: same kernel13:48
ikoniaKcaj: yes, thats very true, consider that when you write it up13:48
mowerhi13:48
AdysAny idea how to reenable the virtual terminals? for some reason i lost them all at some point13:48
san|ikonia: do you know where ubuntu stores these settings?13:48
ikoniasan|: what settings ?13:49
berzerkaHardyOne: hmm. so if my machine permits it there is effectively no difference between the releases, and i can simply install kde on xubuntu and vice versa...13:49
KcajI'm a fairly decent writer, I'll try my best and get back to you guys13:49
KcajIs there somewhere I can type it in? What is the wiki link? Or should I just maybe post it in one of my blogs somewhere?13:49
jhoc2x_ikonia: i think its FAT32... just earlier it was detected.. and i even save some files on it.. it's weird after i restarted it's gone.. (not detected)13:49
ikoniaKcaj: I'd be happy to review and give it a test run if you like (there are plenty of other people too)13:49
KcajActually, I think I'll do that (at least at first)13:49
ikoniaKcaj: https://help.ubuntu.org, just don't put it live13:49
HardyOneberzerka: yeah pretty much. personally I use Ubuntu ( GNOME ) but Kubuntu is nice if your ram can handle it13:50
ikoniajhoc2x_: unplug it and plug it back in, check the syslog afte ryou plug it in13:50
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berzerkaHardyOne: okay, thanks a lot for the info.13:50
san|well once mounted (it worked before) I can goto properties of the mounted device. But it was mounted as read only so I added to the 'mount options' textbox the text 'rw' as in read/write. But now ubuntu fails to mount the device at all due to this setting but I have no clue where to undo this...13:50
san|ikonia: ^^13:50
ikoniasan|: try to mount it manually13:51
ikoniasan|: see if there is any references in /etc/fstab13:51
ikoniasan|: check if there are any mount errors in the syslog13:51
jhoc2x_ikonia: i did.. plug in/plug out.. nothing happens... (how to check syslog?)13:51
san|ikonia: there is none in /etc/fstab13:51
san|checked that already13:51
ikoniajhoc2x_: look in /var/log/messages13:51
ikoniasan|: try the other stuff I suggested13:52
san|ikonia: I was wondering if ubuntu stored stuff like that in gconf13:52
san|ikonia: will do!13:52
san|tnx!13:52
Openuserwhen will released exactly ubuntu 8.04 according to greenwich meridian time??13:52
ikoniaOpenuser: I believe so13:52
PiciOpenuser: when its done.13:52
Kcaj[UBuntu]help.ubuntu.org = 404??13:53
ikoniaKcaj[UBuntu]: https13:54
Openuserikonia, Pici: yes, but there's no an hour of release, or it will be released in an unknown hour of tomorrow?13:54
ikoniaKcaj[UBuntu]: ubuntu.com - sorry13:54
Kcaj[UBuntu]ah lol13:54
ikoniaOpenuser as pici said "when it's done"13:54
PiciOpenuser: No specific hour, and unknown at this time13:54
bazhangOpenuser: an extra hour is added every time someone asks13:54
Kcaj[UBuntu]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/13:54
Picibazhang: :D13:54
Kcaj[UBuntu]That is more the proper link :D13:54
ikoniaKcaj[UBuntu]: there you go13:54
Simonfti need help13:54
ikoniaSimonft: ask the question then13:55
Simonftim installing ubuntu on a power book G413:55
bazhangelaborate please Simonft13:55
ikoniaSimonft: ubuntu 7.10 ppc edition ?13:55
ooolhttp://sevk.3322.org/desktop/m103.jpg, this is good for a desktop picture13:55
Simonftum13:55
Simonftim not sure13:55
ikoniaoool: this is a support channel, we don't need to see that13:55
ikoniaSimonft: you must know which version and arch you selected ?13:55
Simonftyea13:55
Simonftgikd ib13:56
ikonia?13:56
Simonfthold on13:56
ikoniah13:56
ikoniaah13:56
jhoc2x_ikonia: last line on messages >>> "new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 116" ...(no idea whatsoever)13:56
ikoniajhoc2x_: ok, great so it can see the drive13:56
SimonftUbuntu 7.10 - Supported to 200913:56
bazhangoool: not here please13:56
Simonftstandarp personal computer13:57
Simonft**standard personal computer13:57
wingydingyhow do i install a patch?13:57
jhoc2x_ikonia: and i can't see it.. great..13:57
influencddoes anyone know what time hardy is being released tomorrow?13:57
bazhang!hardy | influencd13:57
HardyOne2 hours later then it should been13:57
ubotuinfluencd: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!13:57
influencdhelpful...13:58
Simonftikonia??13:58
Piciinfluencd: No, there isnt a specific time13:58
wingydingyi have a patch for ubuntu, how do i install it?13:58
HardyOnewingydingy: a patch ? if not official then I wouldnt13:58
influencdah I get the +2hrs, good ol community spirit ;)13:59
wingydingyhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/13831729/macbook-backlight-mmap.patch13:59
HardyOneinfluencd: :)13:59
goodhabitwingydingy, do you want to apply it for next version on ubuntu repos or for your use?13:59
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goodhabitAh.13:59
goodhabit^)13:59
wingydingyi want to fix the macbook backlight issues i am having :P14:00
goodhabitwingydingy, first you need to know what package it is affect.14:00
san|ikonia: I can mount the device by hand... so there is somewhere a setting in gnome which f*cks it up.. any idea where the mount options are stored?14:00
allam مساء الخير عليكو14:00
neo1iteHi, my ubuntu server hosts my websites from /var/www. is the any way of being able to access my /home folder via the web when im not @ home?14:00
Pici!sa | allam14:01
ubotuallam: For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa14:01
allamyes i know14:01
infis there a way to upgrade to the RC via the update manager as opposed to downloading the CD?14:01
koudelkaneo1ite, ssh ftp14:01
Piciinf: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.14:01
HardyOne!UPGRADE | inf14:01
ubotuinf: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes14:01
bazhanglanguage san|14:01
neo1itekoudelka - needs to be able to run over port 80 on a standard web browser14:01
san|bazhang: sorry14:02
allamhow u know that this words are arabic words14:02
HardyOneallam: we have seen them before14:02
allamok14:02
allamthanks14:02
wingydingygoodhabit: does this help: mmap() patch against hal-0.5.11~rc214:02
ikoniaapologies, I had to leave my desk for a moment14:02
infneolite - if you set up ssh on the host sshfs mount works brilliantly for remote directory mounting14:02
HardyOneallam: you are welcome14:02
koudelkaneo1ite, you can either link a folder or you can set appache/lighttpd to make your home folder web accessible14:03
Simonft[1]sorry about that14:03
berzerkaSymmetria: nparted?14:03
neo1itekoudelka - any idea how i would do that?14:03
san|I can mount a SDcard device by hand but gnome does not... so there is somewhere a setting in gnome which disables it.. any idea where the mount options / device properties are stored in gnome?14:03
orkunhey there - i am looking for a picture with tux and a sun set. u see tux from the side - the bottom is very black and the horizon is getting orange etc. cannot find this picture anymore anyone has it? :)14:03
Simonft[1]do i need a special version of ubuntu for a powerbook mac?14:03
goodhabitwingydingy, yes, it does. You can privatemsg me for some additional info if you have registered nickname.14:03
koudelkaneo1ite, i think most commonly is to use vhost. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html14:03
Leeuwroffe__: sorry about leaving so suddenly, not intentional; lke I said, KDE sometimes hangs....    Butta, for more Hardy-talk, switch to #ubuntu+1 (for just one more day, tomorrow it´s out and on this channel as you know) and #ubuntu-release-pary14:04
ikoniaorkun: thats nothing to do with ubuntu14:04
ikoniaorkun: this is ubuntu support only,14:04
j2daoshi need some help here guys and gals. I have a dell laptop i jus wiped xp off of and put ubuntu 7.10 on it. but now it is unusable. it wont load the kdm, i dont get a console, nothing.14:04
bazhangorkun: make one with gimp or look at gnome-look.org14:05
koudelkaneo1ite, that way you can have home.yourdomain,com as link to your homefolder. but if you don't have a domain like that you can just make a folder in your www folder that links to your home folder14:05
ikoniaj2daosh: you just get a blank screen ?14:05
koudelkaneo1ite, then you get yourdomain.com/foldername14:05
j2daoshwell it looks like it tries to start kdm and the boot process, but then i get static lines across about a 1 square inch of my screen and then everything goes blank and nothing happens14:06
Simonft[1]can someone help me install ubuntu on a mac powerbook G4?14:06
bazhangSimonft[1]: the x86 will work fine on the intel chip14:06
ikoniaSimonft[1]: what version of ubuntu14:06
Simonft[1]the latest14:06
ikoniabazhang: he's on a G414:06
koudelkaneo1ite, no need to change the config file for that. i'm not really sure about the security risks with linking tough. i've done it with some of my home servers14:06
ikoniaSimonft[1]: thats not what I asked earlier14:06
guillem101j2daosh, what about the liveCD??? was it working just fine???14:06
Picibazhang: G4s are PPCs, not intels14:06
ikoniaSimonft[1]: I asked exactly what version of ubuntu and what arch14:06
erUSULj2daosh: can you boot into recovery mode?14:06
Simonft[1]hold on again14:06
j2daoshyeah everything was working great about 2 days ago14:06
bazhangoops sorry saw powerbook and though macbook14:07
_AndrewOpen Office just lost all the work I did this morning, I saved it and closed and when I open it again it's the old version?! Please help14:07
neo1iteive just looked koudelka - not sure how id pass username and password14:07
j2daoshwell with the exception of the wireless card, and my screen was only a 25% of the screen14:07
Simonft[1]7.1014:07
Simonft[1]do you want the file name?14:07
ikoniaSimonft[1]: what arch14:07
ikoniaSimonft[1]: sure, give me the file name14:07
j2daoshlooks like ill have to reinstall again :(14:07
Simonft[1]ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso14:08
ikoniaSimonft[1]: i386 is not powerbook g414:08
ikoniaSimonft[1]: thats for intel x86 based compupters14:08
Simonft[1]ok14:08
ikoniacomputers14:08
Simonft[1]where do i get the mac one14:08
j2daoshlook for the ppc version Simonft14:08
ikoniaSimonft[1]: the PPC port is no longer official, it's a seperate project14:08
ikoniaSimonft[1]: one moment14:09
j2daoshit should be on the downloads page14:09
j2daoshouch14:09
j2daoshlol14:09
Simonft[1]lol14:09
Simonft[1]thanks14:09
Pici!ppc | Simonft[1]14:09
ubotuSimonft[1]: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ14:09
ikoniaPici: nicely done14:09
Simonft[1]thanks alot14:09
koudelkaneo1ite, i sugest you try and find an appache channel if that's what you are using, they can help you more. i think it's htacces you want to use if that's to any help14:10
Imrahil91how long till the new version comes?14:10
neo1itethanks14:10
Simonft[1]one more hour14:10
koudelkaneo1ite, #apache14:10
Simonft[1]added to it14:10
ikoniaImrahil91: some point today, keep checking14:11
koudelkatoday? isn't it released on thursday?14:11
PmDematagodaikonia : it might not be today14:11
ikoniaPmDematagoda: why ?14:11
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_ruben!info open-vm-tools14:11
PmDematagodaikonia : it's still 23rd here14:11
ubotuPackage open-vm-tools does not exist in gutsy14:11
koudelkaCET14:11
berzerkaif i upgrade packages in ubuntu and have changed configs, is there a way to interactively merge the changes? i can only choose between keep the old and install maintainers, but i don't want to loose either.14:11
_ruben!info open-vm-tools hardy14:11
ikoniaPmDematagoda: it's 24th in the states,14:11
ubotuPackage open-vm-tools does not exist in hardy14:11
PmDematagodaikonia : and USA is sstill in early 23rd14:11
PmDematagodaikonia is your clock right?14:12
PiciHardy will be released some time during the 24th. Please do not ask for a specific time as there isnt any.14:12
koudelkai think they go after CET time14:12
j2daoshwhat is cet time? GMT + 6?14:12
koudelkaCET is basicly gmt14:12
Nom-hmm... so with the impending release of 8.04, if i was in the process of building a reference server to test an OS upgrade, is it worth waiting for the new release, given it may be years before we upgrade the OS again? :/14:12
Leeuwj2daosh: no, gnt -614:13
koudelkasome daylight saving difference i think14:13
j2daoshoh ok, so they are only 5 hours ahead of US CST14:13
Pici!offtopic14:13
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!14:13
koudelkaCET = uk14:13
Simonft[1]thanks14:13
j2daoshLeeuw: so they are an hour before me?14:13
Simonft[1]im downloading it now14:13
j2daoshUK is GMT....14:13
pale-yaf1hi, my computer sound disappeared, and it says that its in use, how to list the processes that uses it so I would kill them?14:13
j2daoshGMT -6 is US MST14:13
PmDematagodaj2daosh didnt you see pici's notice?14:13
Leeuwj2daosh: I don´t know where you are, and I made a mistake, it´ s -6 for me in Amsterdam, -5 from GMT14:14
A[D]minSdose ubuntu server working on Xeon ?14:14
PmDematagodawe're going off-topic like this14:14
sipioroh no!14:14
deserteaglegood morning all14:14
Leeuwsorry, but it´s important nonetheless, aint  it ?14:14
deserteaglecould someone please explain to me why metacity is not working anymore and blaming it on mono?14:14
PmDematagodaubuntu+1?14:14
ikoniaA[D]minS: yes, it's just x86 or x86_64 depending on your chip14:14
LeeuwPmDematagoda: yerrite...14:14
j2daoshi cant even get the live cd to work now14:15
LeeuwPmDematagoda: right, that is14:15
sipiordeserteagle: how does it complain?14:15
PmDematagoda:)14:15
j2daoshbut the windows live cd works... so i know its not a hardware issue14:15
ikoniaj2daosh: windows is nothing to do with ubuntu, I've told you this 2 times now14:15
guyvdb_any 8.04 mirrors already open??? like in Australia or some other far off timezone?14:15
deserteaglesipior: i'm sorry, not mono, bonobo. when booting up it says it cannot register with bonobo properly and nautilus says the same thing14:15
oriserver irc.freenode.net14:16
ikoniaguyvdb_: we've just spend 5 minutes saying "stop asking"14:16
j2daoshikonia: yeah but seeing how as i can get a windows live cd to work, i know its not the laptop hardware thats messed up, it has to be with the cd or the linux install14:16
bododohi folks :)14:16
guyvdb_ikonia... k sorry just joined channel14:16
ikoniaj2daosh: no you don't know that14:16
A[D]minSikonia all what i know its Intel Xeon14:16
ikoniaj2daosh:  you know the hardware is compatible with your windows live cd - thats it14:16
jonphit's ready when it's ready... nothing to do with releasing it at the same time in every timezone!14:16
koudelkaguyvdb_, #ubuntu+114:16
MimiWhat's timezone have to do with when you're able to get 8.04? :/ I've been here listening for a while, and wondering.. "Don't people just go to the website and grab it when its out?" If so, time zone doesn't matter! ... thanks :p14:16
bododois anyone really using wifi with a bcm4318 ?14:16
ikoniaA[D]minS: well, x86 should work fine14:16
deserteaglesipior: nautilus specifically says: "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server"14:16
sipiordeserteagle: bizarre. are there old bonobo processes hanging about? does the problem persist on a reboot?14:16
bododoi can't seem to get it working on my ibook G414:17
deserteaglesipior: 2 reboots after a system update14:17
deserteagle:(14:17
j2daoshok, lemme rephrase, my screen isn't busted, the cd-rom works fine to read the cd, and i have access to all my peripherals...14:17
sipiordeserteagle: if you make a new account, does the problem carry over?14:17
CeruleanHi. I've installed the icecc packages. How do I run the scheduler on a node?14:17
bododoanyone on ppc, here? :)14:17
LeeuwMimi: some peolpe like the suspense of counting down, I guess... ;-)14:18
PiciMimi Hardy will be released some time during the 24th.  There is not a specific time that the release will be made, but you can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party. Please direct upgrade and RC questions to #ubuntu+1.14:18
deserteaglesipior: haven't tried, furthermore there is no gnome-panel14:18
Marfi1 day!!   =)14:18
j2daoshso again, it's either the linux install cd that is broke, or this version of ubuntu isn't compatible (even though it was working somewhat ok 2 days ago)14:18
deserteaglesipior: i can create a user with what command again?14:18
jpatrickMarfi: #ubuntu-release-party14:18
hcoalCan someone tell me if the ATI restircted driver supports Xv?  My videos playback in very low quality and are jerky in full screen. Doing an xvinfo command says "no adapters present".  Do I need to wait for a driver update or is this something I can fix myself?  I have an ATI HD 3850.14:18
MimiThanks. people keep asking here, so I wanted to know what the deal is. Yes, I know it's released sometime tomorrow... just dont understand what time zones have to do w/ it14:18
Marfijpatrick, no way!!!14:18
sipiordeserteagle: adduser14:19
ajricoverii'm trying to compile glibc-2.7, i,m having linking problems related to "stack protection"14:19
bazziebi have (attempted) to configure smb on my pc to share folders from ubuntu on my network but as soon as i browse from a windows machine it keeps on asking me for a password. how do i find out what the password is or disable it??14:19
ikoniaajricoveri: why the heck would you be doing that ?14:19
LeeuwMimi: simple: it´ s tomorrow there, today here, dateline, you know ?   This is my last remark, let´ s skip to release party or #ubuntu+114:19
ikoniaajricoveri: 2.6 and greater are intergrated SSP14:19
Nom-When does support for 6.06 and 7.10 officially end?  Calendar year or sometime during 2009?14:20
Symmetriaheh14:20
Symmetriathis is gonna take a while14:20
ajricoveriikonia, im not pretending to install it, but to install it on a different partition where im doing a custom linux system14:20
SymmetriaIm running mkfs.ext3 -cv /dev/sda -> mkfs.ext3  -cv /dev/sdo14:20
ikoniaNom-: 6.06 3 years after release 7.10 18 months after14:20
Symmetriaall at the same time14:20
Symmetria:p14:20
ikoniaajricoveri: so why is this anything to do with ubuntu then ?14:21
* Symmetria watches his FC san going nuts :p14:21
deserteaglesipior: i'll be trying a new user14:21
reverHi I was having an issue with ndiswrapper for my built-in wireless card. I blacklisted the b43 driver and would have ndiswrapper start. However, it did not create/attach to my card. I did an ndiswrapper -l saw that the card was present but the kernel module ssd was a driver for it14:21
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j2daoshhowdo you install ubuntu from commandline?14:21
ajricoveriikonia, im compiling it on my ubuntu box who is acting as my host platform14:21
ikoniaajricoveri: thats not an ubuntu problem, you should be using a toolchain14:21
reverI did lsmod |grep ssd and noticed it was attached to b44 my wired nic. I blacklisted it and all is working. So my question is what is SSD module?14:22
koudelkaj2daosh, do you have a ubuntu commandline system installed?14:22
j2daoshnot yet, i went into the oem install option of the live cd14:22
j2daoshso it dropped me into a shell14:22
ikoniaj2daosh: just install the normal version14:22
ikoniaj2daosh: your not an oem builder14:22
iusegnulinuxis there a ubuntu dvd with both gnome and kde on it?14:23
Nom-so ~ 12 months on 7.10 ugh...  hmm ok tnx14:23
ikoniaiusegnulinux: there is a dvd with repos on it, but as far as I'm aware it installs with just gnome as a normal install would14:23
j2daoshcan', using the standard version, it loads the ubuntu splash screen and then hangs14:23
Sinnermaniusegnulinux: the live dvd usually has both. but installs with gnome by default.14:23
ajricoveriikonia, you mean to install the entire toolchain on target platform and do things from it?? chroot'ing and stuff??14:23
ikoniaj2daosh: so how is the oem install going to change that14:23
koudelkaj2daosh, what you want is the alternate cd14:23
iusegnulinuxthanks guys14:23
ikoniaajricoveri: it;s the only way to have a sane target build wihtout cross-compiling14:23
Leeuwjust one more remark on Hardy (sorry; but tomorrow we´ ll be discussing it here anyway): anyone who wants it, just go get the daily build now, before the servers crash and update tomorrow: same thing !   NOw I´ ll shut up about that stupid Big Birdy...14:24
koudelkaj2daosh, it uses a graphic commandline isntall14:24
ikoniaLeeuw: how about no more remakes14:24
ikoniaremakrs14:24
j2daoshbecause this is the most life i have seen from this laptop in 2 days and if i can managae to get around the live install hanging by using the oem install option, thats what im gonna do14:24
Sinnermaniusegnulinux: i think there's a metapackage called something like kubuntu-desktop that you install that will give you kde. not 100% sure about the package name though.14:24
ikoniaj2daosh: the oem install won't do anything14:24
ikoniaj2daosh: its the same base14:24
TheOVkubuntu-desktop gives you kde 3.5.914:24
TheOVkubuntu-kde4-desktop gives you kde414:24
Sinnerman!kubuntu-desktop | iusegnulinux14:24
ubotuiusegnulinux: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.14:24
iusegnulinuxk, thanks14:24
AndycasssHow to disable devices, similar to windows device manager?14:25
ikoniaAndycasss: blacklist the module14:25
ikonia!blacklist > Andycasss14:25
ikoniaAndycasss: check the pm from ubotu14:25
dystopianrayAndycasss: which device do you want to disable? and permanently or temporarily?14:25
Baby_Shambl3shi cna someone tell me why does it take 3-5min for my shutdown options to popup when i click on the button?14:28
* Marfi dances and waits for ubuntu14:28
REyMhow do I set iptables to forward udp port 1234 over a specific interface?14:28
ikoniaMarfi: we don't need to see that14:28
ZeltaYeah Marfi how dare you14:28
* Marfi is sad. =(14:28
PiciMarfi: #ubuntu-release-party please14:28
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: iptables -sport 1234 -dport 1234 -i eth114:29
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: something along those lines14:29
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: you may need to check the synatx14:29
j2daoshall options of the live cd drop me into a shell, kdm refuses to start14:29
REyMthat's for me{14:29
REyM? ikonia ? :P14:29
ikoniaREyM: sorry14:29
ikoniaREyM: yes, you14:29
REyMok :)14:29
koudelkaREyM, there are some graphical ways of doing it too if you are using a desktop install14:30
berzerkais gutsy released? i just upgraded from hardy to gutsy by replacing the release name in sources.list. what version did i get now? the RC? the ubuntu page says one day to go. is the repository already the same and there will only an official installer be released tomorrow or will the repository also change?14:31
ikoniagutsy has been our for a while, hardy is still in release candidate14:31
REyMkoudelka: I don't use a gui14:31
ikoniaberzerka: you've done what you you've done to your system by doing your own things, not reading the docs and trying to be clever14:31
ikoniaberzerka: if you knew it wasn't out, why point it at the repo's14:32
nixnoobdoes anyone know if its possible to connect multiple webcams to a single machine and combine the feeds into one split screen stream for broadcasting to a remote location?14:32
REyMikonia: iptables -A FORWARD -p udp --sport 1234 --dport 1234 -i eth1?14:32
ikonianixnoob: multiple webcams, yes, combining them, you would need some appliction14:32
TheOVnixnoob: zoneminder may be able to do that14:32
ikoniaREyM: thats it14:32
ikoniaREyM: something along those lines14:32
REyMok Z)14:32
TheOVnixnoob: in fact, zoneminder CAN do that iirc14:33
nixnoobTheOV, thank you i will check it out.14:33
juju88220bonjour14:34
juju88220ya quelqu'un ?14:34
jpatrick!fr | juju8822014:34
ubotujuju88220: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.14:34
j2daoshwhat is the command to install xorg again?14:34
ikoniaj2daosh: it's already installed on desktop cd's14:34
j2daoshdpkg --reconfigure -xserver?14:34
ikoniaj2daosh: no,14:34
ikoniaj2daosh: why is it not installed alreaday ?14:34
berzerkawhere do i find a table which maps those release names to version number? the one in the faq only goes up to 7.04.14:35
Pici!codenames | berzerka14:35
ubotuberzerka: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more14:35
j2daoshbecause the live cd keeps dropping me into a shell which gives me no way to install according to yall14:35
ikoniaj2daosh: so what are you doing ?14:35
noodles12anyone see any real advantage of using 8.04 to 7.10?14:35
Picinoodles12: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.14:35
ikoniaj2daosh: if you can't install what are you trying to install xorg on  ?14:35
AndycasssHow to make network manager forget wifi passwords?14:35
dystopianraynoodles12: updated software, better hardware support, etc..14:35
ycyhi14:36
j2daoshtrying to reconfigure xorg so i can get a screen so i can install linux14:36
KohelethI notice whe I boot Ubuntu I always have to manually activate numbers lock, what do I need to edit so that it automatically starts?14:36
ycywill ubuntu 8.04 will be released tomorrow?14:36
ikoniaj2daosh: where thought ??? your using the oem command line arn't you ?14:36
Adysis it safe to remove xterm as Im never using it?14:36
Picij2daosh: That will not work, please use the Alternate install CD if you cannot use the graphical installer14:36
ikoniaj2daosh: why are you not listening to the advice of people around you14:36
Piciycy, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party14:36
ikoniaAdys: I'd advise agains it14:36
ikoniaAdys: it's very small and linked to xorg14:36
berzerkaikonia: oh, i interchanged gutsy and hardy in my question. but it remains the same: is the repo already in the state the release will be or did i get the RC?14:36
Baby_Shambl3shi cna someone tell me why does it take 3-5min for my shutdown options to popup when i click on the button?14:36
OrbixxUbuntu is not detecting my hardware raid, but detects the physical drives themselves. How do I get it to recognise the raid?14:36
Adyshrm aight14:36
Pici!final > berzerka (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)14:36
j2daoshikonia: why are you not reading what i type.... i went to NORMAL option o installing, it dropped me into a shell14:37
dystopianrayBaby_Shambl3s: extremely slow computer?14:37
j2daoshnot the oem version although that does the same14:37
Baby_Shambl3sikonia: ip-tables o_0 wrong person14:37
ikoniaj2daosh: use the alternative cd as you';ve been advised14:37
dystopianrayOrbixx: what sort of 'hardware' raid? an actual real hardware arid or one of those onboard fakeraids?14:37
Baby_Shambl3sdystopianray: sadly i wish that was the case but its not14:37
Orbixxdystopianray: Not sure. It's onboard and has it's own bios.14:37
Orbixxdystopianray: It uses a jmicro chipset.14:38
dystopianrayOrbixx: ok so it is fakeraid, you need special driver support for it14:38
ikoniaOrbixx: then it will be "fakeraid" which has terrible support under linux14:38
AndycasssHow to make network manager forget wifi passwords? So that it would prompt for password again, i had to change it in my router configuration14:38
ikoniaOrbixx: that it not true hardware raid14:38
OrbixxAh.14:38
AndycasssRight now its using the old one..14:38
OrbixxIn performance terms, is fakeraid any worse than real?14:38
Baby_Shambl3sdystopianray: its seriously starting to bug me that when i click shutdown to get the options it takes that long to appear and my desktop becomes innactive i know its soemthing to do with one of the updates14:38
Kohelethnumbers lock anyone!14:38
ikoniaOrbixx: real = $1000 fake raid = bundled on a $100 motherboard14:38
ikoniaOrbixx: you work it out ;)14:38
dystopianrayOrbixx: depends on the sort of raid you have setup, it can be worse as the cpu has to do all the work14:38
OrbixxI see.14:39
berzerkai will about have the same system now as i will have it tomorrow after the release, nice. btw. the upgrade went super-smooth, even with debian i had more issues at some point. not to mention fedora. i was always very suspicious of ubuntu but i must say: nice job!14:39
OrbixxTrust me to be installing Ubuntu 1 day before release...14:39
Baby_Shambl3shi cna someone tell me why does it take 3-5min for my shutdown options to popup when i click on the button?14:39
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: what version of ubuntu14:40
dystopianrayOrbixx: i'm not sure about jmicro controllers, but i beleive dmraid can handle lots of fakeraid controllers14:40
dystopianray!raid | Orbixx14:40
ubotuOrbixx: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:40
Baby_Shambl3sberzerka: how fortunate for you ive have had dpkg lockdown because of update, screen res problems etc and now this issue with shutdown options14:40
ikoniaOrbixx: dmraid = in my personal view - poor14:40
Baby_Shambl3sikonia: installed ubuntu hard beta 8 and updated a couple of times14:40
ikoniaOrbixx: you may want to investigate linux software raid, which is a high calibre14:40
Orbixxikonia: I want to dual boot windows on the same raid.14:41
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: yes you can see all teh discussion in this channel of people saying "support in #ubuntu+1 for hardy" yet your still asking14:41
dystopianrayOrbixx: good luck with that14:41
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: check out resoulution of your localhost name14:41
* calc doubts the ubuntu desktop cd will get respun again before release14:41
Baby_Shambl3sikonia i dont have res probs anymore14:41
DJonesKoheleth: On my machines, num lock is normally a bios setting, however if not, this may help http://ubuntulog.wordpress.com/2007/08/11/turning-on-num-lock-on-ubuntu-start/14:41
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: thats the most common cause14:42
sawyer_hey everyone14:42
Koheleththanks14:42
sawyer_aptitude reinstall does not really overwrite files, how can i change that?14:42
sawyer_should i try locating the packages locally and then dpkg --force-overwrite .. or what?14:42
Baby_Shambl3sikonia: funny enought i dotn know why i aint in ""+1, i was sure it was this channel hmm still getting used to irssi14:42
sipiorsawyer_: or just --purge them and then reinstall14:42
sawyer_sipior, thought i should, but these have too many dependencies14:43
sawyer_plan9 utilities overwrite some common binaries such as grep, sed, awk, echo, etc.14:43
sipiori think you can force it anyway, as long as you immediately reinstall :-)14:43
sawyer_trying to purge awk .. the system don't like it :)14:43
babodoes everyone else's emacs highlight python properly ?14:43
sipiorsawyer_: really? that seems like a poor practise...14:44
sawyer_oh it is!14:44
sawyer_those &*%!_#!14:44
sawyer_either way, a kind of annoying thing is aptitude not really overwriting files14:44
sawyer_i cringed at writing mv grep{,.old} && aptitude reinstall grep && rm grep.old14:44
Viele-baerencu14:45
zepherinhello all14:45
swmiller6! gconfig14:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gconfig - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi14:45
sawyer_sipior, question is, does aptitude and all the rest use "echo" for stuff14:45
sawyer_cuz otherwise removing binutils could be fatal and i wouldn't be able to install anything back14:46
deserteaglesipiro: go figure, rm -rf'ed the /usr/local/mono-1.9 directory and it solved it14:46
deserteagleo_O14:46
sipiorsawyer_: yeah, bit risky, isn't it? does apt-get actually overwrite files? might be worth a try...14:46
deserteagleweird14:46
berzerkaregarding my question earlier about interactively merging config files. i've done it in ubuntu now by backgrounding the apt process and using `sdiff -o` to interactively merge the file and file.dpkg.new. other distros (gentoo, debian) offer an option for this in the installer itself. ubuntu does not?14:46
deserteaglesipiro = sipior14:46
sawyer_sipior, i thought they would be using the same functions but i'll try14:46
sawyer_thansk14:46
deserteagle:P14:46
sawyer_*thanks14:46
sipiordeserteagle: not sure what was going on there, but i'm glad you got it fixed14:46
v0lksmanhey all!  anyone here Ubuntu Certified?14:47
deserteaglesipior: i appreciate your help bro, never thought of creating another user for bug fixing :P14:47
Bigsniperboy885i know that this is not the right channel, but can any onw give me help on the ppc 6700/vx 6700?14:47
ikoniaBigsniperboy885: if you know it's not the right channel, don't ask !14:47
Bigsniperboy885could you point me to the right channel?14:48
ikoniaBigsniperboy885: no14:48
Bigsniperboy885thanks14:48
sipiorikonia: bit of urea in the corn flakes this morning, my friend? :-)14:48
dystopianrayBigsniperboy885: try #linux maybe14:48
ikoniasipior: what ?14:48
zepherinI added sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to my startup progams under my session editor, do I need to do anything more than that to get it to run on boot?14:48
sipiorikonia: a joke14:48
ikoniasipior: sorry, went over my head14:48
berzerkaBigsniperboy885: depending on what you want to know, try ##hardware14:49
berzerka...14:49
ng0nhow do i 'kick' bittorrent ?14:49
berzerkang0n: you mean like 'uninstall'?14:49
berzerkang0n: or more in the sense of 'push', open a port maybe^^14:50
ng0nno..  i mean push it.  it got blocked...14:50
OrbixxWhat is the standard partition layout of Ubuntu?14:50
gabbsIs there a doc that explains porting FreeBSD apps to linux/ubuntu ?14:50
ng0nit was working.  fine.14:50
ikoniaOrbixx: there isn't one14:50
ng0nnot port issue.14:50
zepherinFat32 works just find orbixx but if your dead set on NTSF it'll work too14:50
berzerkang0n: what is not working?14:50
ng0ni have 2 sessions open, they errored out by firewall being locked..14:50
berzerkang0n: well check your firewall settings.14:51
ikoniang0n: fix your firewall14:51
ng0ni unlocked firewall.. one session restarted, the other is just sitting.14:51
ikoniang0n: shut it down, restart it14:51
ng0nya.14:51
sipiorgabbs: not to my knowledge. ideally the app is already posix-compliant, and not *too* much needs to be done...14:51
ng0ntnx.14:52
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v0lksmanOrbixx: if you are talking about the "Guided" install it will just create one big partition and swap for you....14:53
nixnoobdoes anyone know of any tutorials for installing libusb-1.0 in ubuntu?14:53
xxxragazzi non mi distalla un pachetto e mi dice di fare apt-get install -f ma no funziona che faccio manco synaptic mi viene in aiuto che fo?14:54
ng0no i c.  stop.. then resume.  that's the 'kick' process.14:54
Kohelethis there a command to start chatzilla rather than opening FF all the time and selecting it from tools?14:54
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cjzjm100Hi brothers!i want to install the linux from harddisk by grub4dos .the disk named sdb1 in linux where iso files and isolinux locate has only one partition,   so i should edit the menu.lst like this :kernel (sdb1)/isolinux/vmlinuz ,right?14:55
berzerkanixnoob: are you having trouble compiling it? why are you looking for ubuntu-specific instructions?14:56
nixnoobberzerka, no not compiling it gives no errors just doesnt make a kernel module?14:58
woohfathowdy. i just saw the homepage. 1 more day utnil the nexxt release?14:58
berzerkanixnoob: could you rephrase that please? what are you trying to do and what does not work?14:59
woohfatI'm curious... how long till the 64 bit release ugprade??14:59
v0lksmanwoohfat: tomorrow14:59
dystopianraywoohfat: 32-bit and 64-bit will be released at the same time14:59
woohfatv0lksman: all archs release the same time?14:59
woohfatah, k14:59
v0lksmanyep14:59
thoreauputicwoohfat: When It's Ready (tm)15:00
thoreauputic:)15:00
v0lksmanyou can grab the RC today and just patch tomorrow if you want... :)15:00
thoreauputicRSN15:00
berzerkanixnoob: as i see it, libusb is a userspace library and not a kernel module.15:00
berzerkanixnoob: i might be mistaken.15:00
woohfatare any of u running the 64bit version?15:00
v0lksmanI am on my Myth box...I chickened out on my desktop though...too reliant on things working properlly.. :)15:01
lartza_Is there no GetDeb repo anymore? Who has got it work?15:01
v0lksmanhaven't tested the common issues though...(IE flash)15:01
Chaotic_Descentmy HDD and partitions for Ubuntu are being mounted from the wrong device, and I think it's causing slow-downs and errors. How can I fix it? (like half a minute for the log off, etc menu to pop up, a few minutes for gparted to scan devices)15:01
berzerkanixnoob: it is definitely a userspace lib. now what is your problem?15:02
v0lksmanChaotic_Descent: /etc/fstab is where all that is configured15:02
pointer123hi15:02
dystopianrayChaotic_Descent: if it actually works and your ubuntu boots then it is correct15:02
nixnoobberzerka, well im trying to use a alpha webcam userspace tool to see if it works with my cam15:03
nixnoobit depends on libusb15:03
zepherinwell I fail at linux, How can I get the terminal command: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to go after I login? I put it in the sessions boot up section but that didn't work15:03
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berzerkanixnoob: you were looking for instructions on installing libusb.15:03
nixnoobberzerka, when i run the userspace webcam capture app i get a libusb error15:03
omri11helphello.. my ubuntu wont recognize my external usb drive.. anyone help?15:03
v0lksmanzepherin:  woah...you should be adding ndiswrapper to /etc/modules or something along those lines....15:03
nixnoobberzerka, thats why im assuming its a problem with how im using libusb15:04
FrozenballDoes new version of Ubuntu support encryption?15:04
FrozenballThe graphical installer I mean15:04
dystopianrayFrozenball: yes15:04
dystopianrayFrozenball: not the graphical intaller15:04
berzerkanixnoob: that is very different from _installing_ libusb. remember the 1.0 branch is in development, so it might very well just be a bug/incompatibility/whatever in your software/libusb. nothing ubuntu-specific, that's for sure.15:04
zepherinso put that command in /etc/modules? I could try that15:04
omri11helpany one could help.. my ubuntu doesnt recognize one of my external usb drives..15:05
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ale152good morning15:05
v0lksmanzepherin:  nono...if anything just ndiswrapper...but I think that is wrong....try running this and reboot 'sudo ndiswrapper -m'15:05
ale152i've a little problem:15:05
sridevican i know wat frozen ball is????15:05
mosnowhy is it that the banshee people can't make a decent sized desktop icon for their app? is it just me who always gets a super-small icon just for this app?15:05
nixnoobberzerka, well im sure that the webcam app and libusb are compatible the dev wrote both of them and it specifically says in his blog that the webcam app depends on libusb-1.015:05
nixnoobberzerka, thanks for trying to help me15:06
omri11helpany one help?15:06
berzerkanixnoob: is the webcam app in the ubuntu repository?15:06
Chaotic_Descentfstab shows /dev/sda2 and sda5 (my two partitions on the drive) , but it's supposed to be /dev/sdc2 and sdc5. C, not A.15:06
Chaotic_Descentgparted shows my drive and it's partitions are /dev/sdc15:06
zepherinok: rebooting15:06
lartza_Is there no GetDeb repo anymore? Who has got it work?15:06
berzerkanixnoob: or did you build it yourself? (can't really be in the repo, since it relies on libusb-1.0, which is not..)15:07
ale152I wanted to install ubuntu on my hd, so i resized my windows partition with ubuntu live cd, then i restarted the pc a windows didn't start. So i installed ubuntu, and after this installation, when i choose WINDOWS in grub menu, it continues to not start... why?15:07
nixnoobberzerka, yes i did15:07
Chaotic_DescentUbuntu boots, but it keep forgetting to keep my other drives and partitions mounted, and there are these glitches and slow-downs.15:07
BlinnyIs there a HOWTO or FAQ for running a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit userspace?15:07
v0lksmanzepherin: still here?15:07
nixnoobberzerka, none of this is in the repos15:07
nixnoobberzerka, hang on ill be right back15:07
sridevi????15:08
Chaotic_DescentCan I just change it from sda to sdc in fstab? they each have fancy UUID= strings.15:08
reizendCaotic_Descent, you can add entries to fstab15:08
v0lksmanbut be careful...15:08
reizendChaotic_Descent, but the uuid would not be the same15:08
v0lksmanvery careful15:08
Chaotic_Descentreizend: I had a feeling that was the case. (but have no idea what UUID is)15:09
reizendChaotic_Descent: this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28313115:09
Chaotic_Descentthanks.15:09
berzerkanixnoob: as long as the dev didn't mention any specific version of libusb-1.0, i guess you can't be sure your app is compatible since libusb-1.0 is only a development "branch" whose API might be changing.15:09
reizendChaotic_Descent, the uuid should not be neccessary15:09
Chaotic_Descentso I could change sda to sdc, and remove the UUID?15:10
berzerkanixnoob: anyways, you would better contact the people involved in your webcam app or libusb, since i see no ubuntu-specific problems here.15:10
v0lksmanit's an either or thing....so either you use to the UUID to identify the partition or you user /dev/sdx15:10
reizendChaotic_Descent: go through that page I sent you and you should see how to add a line15:11
Chaotic_DescentI see how to find the UUID. so I guess I use that.15:11
Pici!uuid | Chaotic_Descent15:11
ubotuChaotic_Descent: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)15:11
zepherinNo go volksman: I had to input sudo modprobe ndiswrapper still, I tried sudo nidswrapper -m before the earlier one but it told me that it already had an alias directive15:11
v0lksmanzepherin: check in /etc/modules is there a line for ndiswrapper?15:12
Chaotic_Descent.... oh wait. my two partitions on the new drive for Ubuntu are commented out. how is it booting Ubuntu?15:12
Chaotic_Descentcommented out in fstab.15:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]Heya15:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]I finished that tutorial thing.15:12
AdministratorI came across the same problem15:12
thunder_what?15:12
v0lksmanthe comment just tells you in dev terms what partition it is...the UUID is actually being used to mount it15:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]http://jewbuntu.blogspot.com/15:13
Chaotic_Descentso even though it's commented out in fstab, I need to correct it to make it work properly?15:13
Kcaj[UBuntu]I'll make more updates as I do things on the system :)15:13
PiciKcaj[UBuntu]: Please dont do that, this is a support channel.15:13
zepherinno just fuse and lp, but I tried adding ndiswrapper and it wouldn't let me save15:13
v0lksmannope..the comment is just that....15:13
Kcaj[UBuntu]That is a support link :O15:13
v0lksmanif you want to change the mount you will need to update the UUID or replace it altogether with /dev/sd(x)(n)15:14
PiciKcaj[UBuntu]: No, its a link to your blog.15:14
Kcaj[UBuntu]A support blog :O do you see any other psots besides "installing Ubuntu"? :P15:14
Chaotic_DescentSo... I need to edit it AND make it not a comment??15:14
v0lksmanhahaha....no....the comment remains a comment...the comment is there to tell a Human what device the UUID is referencing...15:15
shane2perudoes anyone know of a way to do mailmerger with ooo, or thunderbird, or even evolution?15:15
shane2perufor emails?15:15
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ZeltaKcaj[UBuntu], are you under house arrest?15:15
v0lksmanbasic format of fstab:   <dev to mount>   <mount point>   <fstype>   <options>15:15
tunaokay. I had been using firefox3 for a while now, always answering "decide later" to the annoying prompt at the start. Now I finally clicked "keep firefox 3" -- and the exact opposite happened. I lost everything I had changed since moving to ff3, and was reverted to ff2 bookmarks and settings. is there any way to get my bookmarks back?15:15
Kcaj[UBuntu]Zelta: Yeah until May15:16
Zelta...lol15:16
v0lksmanso the <dev to mount> can be either a UUID or the hard dev id (/dev/sdc1)15:16
Chaotic_Descentbut you told me I needed to change fstab... I mean, one of the partitions is mounted despite not being in fstab, and that's the one that boots Ubuntu. the other one doesn't mount. neither are in fstab.15:16
Kiusadammit, what happened.15:16
Kiusathese are not my channels15:16
Kiusa>.<15:16
Pici!uuid > v0lksman (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)15:17
confusedUbuntu networking is giving me a lot of problems in my laptop. I need to switch between LANS at my work, and the wireless at my home. I know how to use the network-admin dialog. But it screws up so often. I get socioflags error, sometimes dns resolution doesn't work. And sometimes networking just doesn't work without any reasons.15:17
v0lksmanPici:  I know the reason for the transition...but he is confused as to what is actually mounting the devices...15:17
zepherinOk I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules I'm going to try to restart15:18
nixnoobberzerka, im back is there anything else you wanted to say15:18
Piciv0lksman: Ah, I thought you were looking for a way to translate uuid to devices, nevermind then15:18
thoreauputicconfused: network-manager doesn't do it automatically for you?15:18
v0lksmanPici:  nope...trying to translate confusion... ;)15:18
v0lksmanChaotic_Descent:  can you pastbin your fstab and the output of the 'mount' command?15:18
confusedthoreauputic: It doesn't do anything for me. I know how to set the gateway, ip, dns and I do it manually. And it works quite often. But it breaks down too often.15:18
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Chaotic_DescentI'll try.15:19
thoreauputicconfused:  So network-manager doesn't "Just Work" for you at all?15:19
thoreauputicconfused: are you using dhcp ?15:19
confusedthoreauputic: Yes! No I use static ips.15:19
v0lksmanChaotic_Descent:  I have to run for a minute or two but I will be back....15:19
confusedthoreauputic: I have deleted everything from the network manager.15:19
berzerkanixnoob: i wrote two things in the meantime. nothing else, no... you could post the error message, maybe someone has an idea..15:20
confusedthoreauputic: And will key in my home and work space again.15:20
srideviwat is frozen ball????15:20
Chaotic_Descenthttp://pastebin.com/d52722a6515:20
thoreauputicconfused: Umm.. OK.15:20
Chaotic_Descentooops, ok.15:20
srideviis there nebody to reply plz15:20
sridevi????15:20
SteffanxGunirus or in this channel!15:20
confusedthoreauputic: But it breaks down so often. Especially at work when I switch between different switches. It just acts up.15:20
thoreauputicconfused: did you do this because you hate n-m, or because you prefer to do things this way?15:20
erUSULsridevi: frozen bubble?15:20
nixnoobberzerka, libusb:error [initialize_device] read failed ret=-1 errno=9 couldn't open device15:21
confusedthoreauputic: Did what? I use the n-m to manually key in everything. Properly. And then it starts working.15:21
jylihi15:21
ljudkortjoin /ubuntu-se.org15:21
sridevierUSL,frozenball15:21
ljudkortOoops15:21
jylihoho~15:21
confusedthoreauputic: Then when I go to another place at my work and use that LAN or switch between wireless or something. It just refuses to start15:21
thoreauputicconfused: no, network-manager is the bit that doesn't require manual config15:21
Picisridevi: Where are you seeing frozenball?15:21
jyliyeah15:22
zepherinThrowing it /etc/modules worked, thanks a bunch v0lksman :)15:22
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confusedthoreauputic: Oh. I am not aware. But I am ok with manually doing it to get it working.15:22
thoreauputicconfused: sounds like you are choosing manual - if you use dhcp that isn't necessary15:22
FrozenballThis is starting to be scary15:22
zepherinjust the ndiswrapper not the hole string15:22
confusedthoreauputic: Both my home and network don't have dhcp.15:22
sridevipici:i just saw it in this xchat someone was talking abt it.15:22
thoreauputicconfused: Hmmm - by choice?15:22
confusedthoreauputic: I know the subnets, the gateway, the dns, the wpa keys. I put in everything at the proper place. And for no reason it refuses to work when I switch lan wires15:23
Picisridevi: Frozenball is a user in this channel.15:23
confusedthoreauputic: my work doesn't have dhcp because of the network admin.15:23
confusedthoreauputic: And I don't need a dhcp at my home15:23
confusedthoreauputic: Can you tell me how to clear everything associated with my network and start from scratch?15:23
thoreauputicconfused: I think n-m gets confused by static configs and falls over15:23
berzerkanixnoob: well it looks like the device file you are intending to open is not present or you don't have permission to access it. check if you do.15:23
confusedthoreauputic: Like how would a plain ubuntu install be?15:23
confusedthoreauputic: Can I just not have the network manager? I am ready to key in everything in the network-admin and toggle it myself15:24
thoreauputicconfused: If you know you only ever use static Ips I would simply uninstall network-manager15:24
confusedthoreauputic: I don't want the 'just work' facility15:24
confusedthoreauputic: Are you sure it is causing all these problems?15:24
thoreauputicconfused: Yes, you can uninstall n-m15:24
nixnoobberzerka, im not quite sure how i would do that, but if i issue the command using sudo then the permissions problem should go away (i think) but it doesnt15:24
thoreauputicconfused: No - I'm not there to troubleshoot :) But removing it would tell you15:25
sridevipici:i cant see nebody here by this name15:25
confusedthoreauputic: When I say System>Network what is that utility called?15:25
Picisridevi: I do15:25
confusedthoreauputic: And how do i start network-manager?15:25
samoth13bonjours15:25
MrBillare the releases of Xubuntu or edubuntu generally syncronized with a new release of Ubuntu, or do they tend to follow a couple days/weeks/months later?15:26
jpatrickMrBill: excatly the same time15:26
berzerkanixnoob: maybe the file is really non-existent15:26
MrBillok, cool. thanks.15:26
thoreauputicconfused: Umm - for troubleshooting purpose, uninstall network-manager-gnome and network-manager, see if that helps. If not then the problem is elsewhere, right?15:26
zft19hello everyone15:26
berzerkanixnoob: question is: which file? i don't know the workings of libusb, sadly...15:26
berzerkanixnoob: can you specify a device file for you camera in you webcam app?15:27
thoreauputicconfused: You can put it back if that makes no difference15:27
nixnoobberzerka, well the webcam capture app was written for gentoo perhaps there is a different file structure?15:27
confusedthoreauputic: what is the utility in system>network called?15:27
samoth13re15:27
nixnoobberzerka, i dunno lemme look at the docs15:27
tschundeeehi all15:27
confusedthoreauputic: It is through that that I key in all the info.15:27
confusedthoreauputic: Can I just ask the network manager to not take initiative?15:28
berzerkanixnoob: device files are governed by udev, which is also in use on gentoo. so they should not differ principally, but the /dev layout might be different.15:28
thoreauputicconfused: netwrk-admin I think15:28
confusedthoreauputic: Can you tell me how to wipe all network configs and start afresh?15:28
thoreauputicconfused: network-admin15:28
confusedthoreauputic: Maybe the network manager can be tamed?15:28
nixnoobberzerka, yea thats what i was getting at im looking at the documentation now15:28
berzerkanixnoob: is this the only error you get or is there a file path printed somewhere? check dmesg, please.15:28
thoreauputicconfused: Just uninstall it and see what happens!15:28
samuel-awayhello all15:28
berzerkanixnoob: dmesg | tail15:29
thoreauputicconfused: It's part of the troubleshooting15:29
amenadoconfused you can remove the file /etc/network/interfaces15:29
thoreauputicconfused: It's reversible15:29
samoth13dite en fait dans iptables, le source sport et le dport servent à indiquer dans la règle quel sera le port qui sera utiliser par exemple dans output on met dport pour que ça renvoie vers le sport?15:29
Pici!fr | samoth1315:29
ubotusamoth13: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.15:29
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thoreauputic!fr | samoth1315:29
confusedthoreauputic: But there are no white and blacks, just right now my laptop started working when I re-started the wireless through dhcp.15:29
babois the emacs22 package manager broken ? It installs python-mode in emacs21 when i'm using emacs22. so i don't get python highlighting ...15:29
samoth13dite en fait dans iptables, sport et dport servent à indiquer dans la règle quel sera le port qui sera utiliser par exemple dans output on met dport pour que ça renvoie vers le sport?15:29
confusedconfused: *through network-admin15:29
samoth13c'est mieux où pas15:30
joanjosephhi15:30
thoreauputicconfused: Last repetition - remove n-m. If that works, great. If not, put it back and try again15:30
confusedthoreauputic: ok ok. Even you are stuck on that.15:30
edugonchHello, how can I remove all the graphical installation from my ubuntu system?15:30
samoth13oups dsl je me suis trompé de room... :X15:30
tschundeeei got that strange feeling that my brand new 804 has some wireless lan problems with intel bg2200 (centrino) and WEP... :( i have to type my wlan password about 10 times in after every reboot... after numerous trys he then magically connects o_O is there an issue known?15:30
samuelive got ubuntu installed on a computer (8.04) with 4 hard disk drives.... the drive devices keep switching about, is there any way to stop this behaviour?15:30
joanjosephcan any1 here help me install beryl-compiz fusion 4  in ubuntu 7.04 64bit15:30
nixnoobberzerka, dmesg | tail outputs a bunch of stuff about my wifi connection and the last line says "No module found in object"15:30
amenadoconfused you can remove the file /etc/network/interfaces and recreate a fresh one15:31
thoreauputicconfused: I'm not stuck. I'm suggesting a troubleshooting procedure15:31
sridevihow can the drives be partitioned????15:31
confusedthoreauputic: Can you tell me how to search the ubuntu wiki and community docs properly? I never get results.15:31
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confusedamenado: ok.15:31
thoreauputicamenado: that won't show if n-m is at fault15:31
sahin_wI decided to copy my firefox 3 places.sqlite file to my other machine. Will it work?15:31
berzerkanixnoob: well it was worth a try :)15:31
confusedthoreauputic: I never saw the n-m gui though. Where does it lie?15:31
sridevii want the detailed method15:31
geniisamoth13: Demandez ici en anglais, autrement veuillez voyagez à #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr15:32
jadamsI've got nvidia twinview running, and compiz.  Right now my windows maximize across both screens and I don't want them to.  I've fixed this before, and I looked at the forums and found a bunch of 'ways to fix it' that didn't work for me15:32
geniiHmm15:32
tschundeeeomg here are so many messages around... it is hard to keep track15:32
sridevii have tried once but will be stuck at one point of time15:32
thoreauputicconfused: Usually all you see is the applet icon in the notification area15:32
amenadothoreauputic-> n-m is just a front end gui in my opinion..ultimatimately is the interfaces files thats needed15:32
berzerkanixnoob: you said you built the tool from source? i would simply find the place where the error message you encounter is printed and change the code to print the filename next to it.15:32
sridevican someone tell me plz?????15:32
nixnoobberzerka, no nothing in the way of switches i could pass to the application15:32
ikoniasridevi: what is the problem15:32
Adysis there a reason to keep "language-pack-en" and "language-pack-gnome-en" if its the only language pack on the system?15:33
nixnoobberzerka, thats gonna take a little digging but its a good idea15:33
confusedthoreauputic: amenado: you know once I had removed that interfaces file and then it took 30 minutes everytime to start my laptop. Then ikonia suggested putting in some "lo" back in that file and it became well.15:33
thoreauputicamenado: NO, it is well known that n-m doesn't like having anything in /etc/network/interfaces except the loopback15:33
nixnoobberzerka, u gonna stick around ill go looking now?15:33
confusedthoreauputic: Oh yes. Loopback it was.15:33
thoreauputicconfused: correct - you only need the loopback in that file15:33
amenadoconfused-> i just advised you now of removing and refreshing the interfaces file, how can it be 30 minutes already?15:34
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Chaotic_Descentbbiab.15:34
berzerkanixnoob: yup.15:34
kongove8.04 Will release tomorrow.15:34
thoreauputicconfused: But that is only for using n-m - if you want manual config only, it's better to remove n-m15:34
sridevithe problem is i cant specify the drive name correctly15:34
confusedthoreauputic: Can I use n-m if I need to manually put my ip, gateway, dns, wpa keys all different for different networks?15:34
confusedamenado: If you noticed I was talking about a past experience15:35
berzerkanixnoob: hmm seeing that the error actually comes from libusb it might be difficult to grep for it... good luck.15:35
v0lksmanzepherin: glad to hear it15:35
sridevilik sda2 or 3 or watever.....how to recognize them????15:35
confusedsridevi: sudo gparted15:35
frawfrawdoes anyone know how to enable tvout without having a monitor plugged in?15:35
nixnoobberzerka, ok i found the section of code in the webcam app that prints the error message but im not a programmer so i dont really kno what to do.15:35
amenadoconfused didnt know that as you have not said from previous experience, im not taking any assumption15:35
confusedconfused: fdisk -l15:36
thoreauputicconfused: Theoretically yes. In fact the Debian and Ubuntu versions of n-m don't like that. I think the hardy version might have fixed the conflict, but I don't know that for sure15:36
berzerkanixnoob: lets open a private chat..15:36
joanjosephis any1 here free to talk?15:36
confusedthoreauputic: Alright I will junk it. But the network-admin will remain perfectly usable won't it?15:36
joanjosephi need a little help15:36
srideviconfused:in the terminal right????then????15:36
ikoniajoanjoseph: what's up15:36
confusedsridevi: Yes. Use any.15:36
joanjosephhi ikonia15:36
thoreauputicamenado: Your /etc/network/interfaces suggestion would be fine if only n-m didn't want to take over the whole process :)15:36
joanjosephyou know how to install15:36
joanjosephberyl-compiz fusion 4 in ubuntu 7.04 64bit15:37
thoreauputicconfused: yes, it's separate15:37
ikoniajoanjoseph: there are multiple ways, what are you trhing to do15:37
joanjosephyup15:37
ikoniajoanjoseph: bery is dead, and compiz-fusion has replacyed it15:37
ikoniareplaced ut15:37
joanjosephoh15:37
ikoniait15:37
srideviconfused:i'll trythanks15:37
joanjosephi guess i have to replace my beryl15:37
samuelive got ubuntu installed on a computer (8.04) with 4 hard disk drives.... the drive devices keep switching about, is there any way to stop this behaviour? one is an ide the others are sata, and it seems that /dev/sdd gets switched around with /dev/sdb any ideas?15:37
Picisamuel: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.15:37
joanjosephwhat's the new version of compiz now?15:37
confusedthoreauputic: Both are gone. Do I need to restart? I deleted all the 'locations' in the network-admin. Tell me which other config files to clear.15:38
confused!compiz15:38
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion15:38
samuelPici, thanks15:38
joanjosephyup15:38
OxDeadC0deAnyone know how to get padsp to work with vmware? I finally got it to "work (tm)" but it doesn't create a stream in the pulseaudio volume control. by "to work", it plays sound and doesn't give the /dev/dsp device or resource busy error15:38
joanjosephah ok i will change channel. ty for the help15:38
thoreauputicconfused: Umm - you din't uninstall network-admin, did you?15:38
confusedthoreauputic: No just network-manager and *-gnome.15:38
thoreauputicconfused: OK15:39
confusedthoreauputic: It now says networkManager applet could not find the required resources it cannot continue.15:39
thoreauputicconfused: So now you should be able to manually config15:39
thoreauputicconfused: of course :) You uninstalled it Try running /etc/init.d/dbus restart15:40
v0lksmanChaotic_Descent: let me know when you are back15:40
srideviconfused:i'm not able type command in the terminal as i'm on xchat.....15:40
thoreauputicconfused:  You should be able to use network-admin to make your settings now without conflicts15:40
srideviconfused:how should i go abt it????15:40
thoreauputicsridevi:  Applications -Accessories - Terminal15:41
confusedsridevi: You just need to know which of your HDD is referred to by which name?15:41
OxDeadC0deI'm trying LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libpulsedsp.so exec padsp -nvm -mvmware /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware-vmx.real "$@"15:41
OxDeadC0de/usr/bin/vmware is about the same..  anybody?15:41
OxDeadC0desorry for multi-line15:41
bazziebhow do i start SWAT as root?15:41
fbcTomorrow, Does the RC get renamed or is the actually hardy going to be different CD?15:41
Daisuke_Idonew cd15:41
srideviconfused, yes15:42
Daisuke_Idowith any changes made since the RC came out15:42
ikonia!hardy15:42
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!15:42
Daisuke_Idoi still think it's being rushed, though.15:42
ikoniacan the channel please see the message from ubotu and read it15:42
sridevithoreauputic, i know that .... as i'm on xchat i'm not getting another prompt.....i got it now15:43
bazziebcan any1 help with starting swat as the root user?15:43
confusedthoreauputic: Is there a way to remove the network-admin configured optons?15:43
erUSUL!swat15:43
ubotuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.15:43
ikoniabazzieb: swat is launched for xinetd/inetd15:44
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thoreauputicsridevi: howdoes being on xchat affect your terminal prompt ? Did you start xchat from the terminal without backgrounding it?15:44
srideviThoreauputic:yes15:44
thoreauputicconfused: ... umm, obviously you can remove them either from the GUI or by editing /etc/network/interfaces15:44
sridevithoreauputic, how to background it????15:45
sabeehhi15:45
thoreauputicsridevi: Tip: to background a process, type  CTRL+Z followed by " bg"15:45
sridevithoreauputic, tip????15:46
thoreauputicsridevi: suggestion, instruction15:46
shane2perufirefox3 getting on my nerves!  No fireftp!15:46
thoreauputicsridevi: a way to background an app and get your prompt back :)15:46
Kcaj[UBuntu]How can I make Gnome look better? ;D15:46
srideviThoreauputic,in the terminal again????15:46
thoreauputicsridevi: Yes - for future reference :)15:46
thoreauputicKcaj[UBuntu]: try gnome-look.org15:47
v0lksmanKcaj[UBuntu]: http://www.google.ca/search?q=gnome+theme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a15:47
shane2peruI need a good ftp client, I really loved Fireftp extension for firefox, however there isn't one for FF3, any suggestions?15:47
v0lksmanshane2peru: filezilla15:47
confusedthoreauputic: After clearing the interface file, restarting dbus and restarting networking still the internet works!15:47
sridevithoreauputic,not working15:47
shane2peruv0lksman, I have tried it in the past, and had difficulties with it.15:48
confusedthoreauputic: Shouldn't it let me manually key in stuff before working?15:48
thoreauputicsridevi: then you did it wrong :)15:48
Simonfti got ubuntu installed on a power book G415:48
Simonftbut now wireless will not work15:48
shane2peruv0lksman, it leaves files on my server that I can't get rid of15:48
fdfviuHow to use parted resize partition, in ubuntu live cd?15:48
v0lksmanshane2peru:  it has come a long way...may be worth a revisit15:48
v0lksman?15:48
v0lksmanwhat kind of files?15:48
shane2peruv0lksman, I will have to give it a try15:48
shane2peruv0lksman, some hidden files15:48
thoreauputicconfused: Are you *sure* you have no dhcp server on your network?15:48
shane2peruv0lksman, also let me hanging while trying to upload and resume feature didn't work15:48
v0lksmanhrm...I've never had that problem...however I don't use FTP for much....15:48
shane2peruv0lksman, I maintain 2 web pages, so ftp is pretty important to me.15:49
sridevithoreauputic, can u tell me in a step by step process plz....15:49
deserteaglehello all15:49
Simonftdoes anyone know how to get wireless to work on a powerbook G4 running ubuntu?15:49
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ikoniaSimonft: the card is a known problem15:49
v0lksmanshane2peru:  yeah I manage a few too but I use SFTP where I can....15:49
shane2peruv0lksman, I'll check it out again, it has been about a year or so.15:49
Simonftis there a way to fic it?15:49
ikoniaSimonft: which version of the card are you using and which version of ubuntu15:49
Simonft**fix15:49
Kcaj[UBuntu]Where do I go i nGnome to do stuff like get the latest Apache, MySQL, and PHP?15:49
Simonftok15:50
Simonftholdon15:50
FloodBot2Simonft: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:50
ikoniaKcaj[UBuntu]: synaptic package manager15:50
thoreauputicconfused: alternatively, the fact that it is working means that your manual config is correct.15:50
Kcaj[UBuntu]kk15:50
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shane2peruv0lksman, I don't think my web server allows it, and for ftping I prefer to use gui15:50
ikoniashane2peru: gtfp15:50
ikoniagftp15:50
thoreauputicconfused: in which case you don't need to re-enter it15:50
shane2peruv0lksman, I tend to mess things up with sftp15:50
v0lksman:)15:50
yusuohi having problems with sharing can anyone help15:50
Simonfthow do i find that15:51
ikoniayusuo: tell us the problem15:51
shane2peruv0lksman, I use it locally here on my lan to learn, but I'm not ready for the www with that yet.15:51
ikoniaSimonft: find what15:51
tretlewhen are the pulse audio controls being added to hardy?15:51
sridevithoreauputic, is Tip a command?15:51
ikonia!hardy | tretle15:51
ubotutretle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!15:51
deserteaglehas anyone worked with virtualbox?15:51
Simonftthe version of the card15:51
thoreauputicyusuo: a consellor might help you to share ;p ( kidding)15:51
yusuoim sharing a drive through ubuntu, now the xp machine sees this and can open it but my other linux machine cannot15:51
ikoniaSimonft: lspci15:51
shane2peruikonia, I will give that a try too, didn't really like it last time I used it, can't remember why though.15:51
flibbertygibbitI have adept manager but it won't let me see categories, does anyone know how I can fix this?15:51
v0lksmanshane2peru:  I hear yah....filezilla I find to be good when I need a gui....gftp I wasn't overly impressed with but may be worth trying too15:51
Simonftim running 7.1015:51
ikoniayusuo: how are you trying to mount it15:51
flibbertygibbitor suggest another package manager that shows categories?15:51
ikoniaSimonft: and your %100 using the PPC version this time (eg: it's running)15:51
sdakakthoreauputic: Sorry it was on. I turned it off from the router. And am now restarting it. Ok finally it stops working!15:52
yusuoi've shared it through samba15:52
thoreauputicsridevi: no, no - a"tip" is just  a "suggestion"15:52
shane2peruv0lksman, ikonia I guess I will be re-visiting these programs. :)  Thanks.15:52
ikoniayusuo: so mount it through samba15:52
sdakakthoreauputic: struggling with semantics :)15:52
ikoniayusuo: "connect to" menu in places15:52
Simonftyes15:52
yusuobut it wont it keeps saying ubable to mount windows share15:52
ikoniayusuo: are you using username/password auth15:52
yusuoyes and it accepts it, but still refuses the share15:53
sdakakWhat is the place where network-admin stores all my 'locations' data?15:53
sdakakI want to clear it.15:53
Simonfti did lspci15:53
ikoniayusuo: try mounting it on the command line mount -t smbfs -o username=$user //server/share /mnt/point15:53
Simonftwhat do you want from that15:53
sridevithoreauputic, that time u said that press CTRL+Z and bg something where should i do that?????15:53
ikoniaSimonft: the wirless network card15:53
Simonftnetwork controler?15:54
sdakakikonia: What is the place where network-admin stores all my 'locations' data?15:54
ikoniaSimonft: wirless network15:54
sridevithoreauputic, ????15:54
thoreauputicsridevi: you misunderstood - it was a suggested way to avoid the problem of not being able to use the terminal while you had xchat in the foreground from a command15:54
ikoniasdakak: no idea15:54
nibblecatdoes anyone know how to enable tvout without having a monitor plugged in?15:54
sdakakthoreauputic: You know/15:54
v0lksmanChaotic_Descent:  I have to go but I think you have a syntax error in your fstab...UUID=3491272f-3c4a-48b3-8068-0478449f3e95 should only be defined once....other than that if you want to switch to sdc2 and sdc5 either figure out the UUID for them and replace the existing UUIDs in your fstab -OR- replace the UUID with /dev/sdc2 and /dev/sdc5 respectively...15:54
sdakakthoreauputic: What is the place where network-admin stores all my 'locations' data?15:55
v0lksmanlater all!15:55
thoreauputicsridevi: another way is to launch xchat As " xchat & "  ( without the quotes )15:55
Simonftwhat do you mean wireless network15:55
sridevithoreauputic, oh ok15:55
thoreauputicsdakak: I don't know that, sorry15:55
Simonftim looking at everything and dont see that15:55
frostburnsdakak, system admin keyring?15:56
yusuoikona: all i get when i do that is wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock etc15:56
ikoniayusuo: do you have samba client installed on the client pc15:56
sridevithoreauputic, which place are u from????15:56
ng0ni deleted a file. on purpose.  but the properties of the hard drive do not show increased hd space !?!?!15:56
yusuoofcourse15:57
thoreauputicsdakak: the main config file is /etc/network/interfaces - possibly the other info is stored in a dot file (in  .gnome2/ or something - but as I said, I don't actually know that15:57
Jack_Sparrowng0n, not until you delete it from the trash15:57
yusuoim able to access other shares15:57
thoreauputicsridevi: .au15:57
ng0nit's not in the trash.15:57
ikoniayusuo: can you mount it with the file system type of cifs ?15:57
sdakakfrostburn: uh? I am looking for the place where network-admin stores all the 'location' data.15:57
Jack_Sparrowng0n, did you delete it as root user.. that is a different trash15:57
sridevithoreauputic, wat????15:57
Simonftikonia: im confused15:57
thoreauputicsridevi: Australia15:57
yusuoikona: sorry i dont know what u mean15:57
ng0no.  ya.. i could be root.15:57
Jack_Sparrow:)15:57
ikoniayusuo: change the file system type in the mount options to cifs15:58
sridevithoreauputic, ok15:58
thoreauputicsridevi:  .au is the international code for Australia :)15:58
deserteagledoes anyone know how to setup the virtualbox kernel module?15:58
ng0nhow do i delete root trash ?15:58
yusuoikona: again sam result15:58
Jack_Sparrowng0n, look for .Trash in / or /root15:58
ng0nok.15:58
ng0ntnx15:58
Jack_Sparrownp15:58
sridevithoreauputic, wat are u in the sence ur job????15:58
thoreauputicsridevi: how is that relevant?15:59
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ng0no no.15:59
deserteagledoes anyone know how to setup the virtualbox kernel module?15:59
sridevithoreauputic, to what????15:59
Jack_Sparrow!ot15:59
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!15:59
thoreauputic*sigh*15:59
thoreauputicsridevi: why do you want to know my job ?15:59
sridevithoreauputic, just out of curiosity asked.... don mind16:00
frostburnsdakak, that's standard /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf /etc/hostname and network scripts in /etc/network/16:00
SimonftBroadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN controller (rev 02)16:01
sridevithoreauputic, if u don want to answer its ok.... as u helped me know few things just asked u16:01
Simonftis that what you need?16:01
thoreauputicsridevi: OK :)16:01
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deserteagleso no one knows how to setup the virtualbox kernel module?16:01
sdakakfrostburn: I am talking about the custom ips and gateways that I put in network-admin and save them as 'locations'. Where is that stored?16:02
deserteaglei'd really appreciate any help, i really need to run a windows app and wine won't run it16:02
VHAINguys, do you know when the ubuntu's offical release will come up?16:02
srideviits sayin gparted is not a command in mine16:02
deserteagletomorrow16:02
PiciVHAIN, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party16:02
Jack_Sparrowdeserteagle, did you look at the appdb for wine16:02
thoreauputicdeserteagle: did you try /etc/init.d/vboxdrv16:02
sdakakfrostburn: Can you tell what the /etc/network/ scrips are? the interesting ones?16:02
VHAINthanks!16:02
Simonftikonia: you still there?16:02
deserteaglethoreauputic: yes16:02
thoreauputicJack_Sparrow: it's Vbox16:02
deserteagleJack_Sparrow: no, it needed .net, installed mono, crashed my system horribly16:03
Jack_Sparrowk16:03
thoreauputicdeserteagle: did you run  it with sudo ?16:03
deserteaglenot yet16:03
Simonftcan anybody else help me?16:03
deserteaglesudo16:03
deserteagle>_O16:03
thoreauputicdeserteagle: needs sudo16:03
deserteagletilda...16:03
NeoGeo64When Ubuntu says April 24 for release, what time zone is that16:03
PiciNeoGeo64, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party16:03
NeoGeo64i wanna hit the ftp servers before anyone else16:03
xACExGuys need some help installing Vmware server16:04
NeoGeo64i hate it when a new release comes out and i end up having to download it from africa or something16:04
thoreauputicdeserteagle: are you a member of the vboxusers group?16:04
deserteagleyes16:04
deserteaglei think16:04
deserteagleadduser <me> vboxusers right?16:04
Skittgpasswd i think16:04
thoreauputicdeserteagle: is this the downloaded version or the ose version from the repos ?16:04
ng0nso.. i deleted a file. but it's still there.16:05
deserteaglerepos16:05
sdakakthoreauputic: OK i keyed in my network info in the network-admin. Now when i ping my router it says Network is unreachable.16:05
thoreauputicSkiessi: no, adduser is fine16:05
deserteaglei think16:05
ng0nbut where. not in /trash  or /root/trash16:05
frostburnsdakak, /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations/16:05
thoreauputicdeserteagle: you ran  sudo adduser <you> vboxusers , then logged out and in again?16:05
deserteagleyep16:06
Jack_Sparrowng0n, try using find or locate to see if it really still exists16:06
xACExcan anyone help?16:06
thoreauputicthe logout part is crucial16:06
sdakakfrostburn: That was god send :)16:06
ng0nsparrow.  it's an acronis .tib file.  i searched on .tib.  found another one.. but not the one i deleted.16:06
sdakakfrostburn: will my user have the same files in /home/user/*?16:06
deserteaglethoreauputic: yeh, funny enough none of the manuals, how-to's and wikis mentioned that16:06
ng0nit's on a NTFS partition16:06
frostburnsdakak, i don't believe so, since it requires root access to run16:07
Jack_Sparrowng0n, the ntfs partition has its own .Trash-yournick16:07
ng0nman, if i'd KNOW delete was not delete.. uggg.16:07
thoreauputicdeserteagle: so, is it working now? If not you may be missing a modules package or similar16:07
ng0nok.16:07
bya#ubuntu-fr16:07
deserteaglethoreauputic: funny... when i launch it command line, it says i need virtualbox-ose-modules-generic, which i installed already. furthermore, it says character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist, which i see on the directory16:07
sdakakfrostburn: what does search-domains=example.org mean?16:07
simonft2can anybody help me?16:08
[T]an3Is there an open source equivalent to adobe writer? Something that I can open a pdf and edit it?16:08
xACExhave you guys seen this error message when launching vmware16:08
deserteaglethoreauputic: err, nevermind on that last one, vboxdrv is only in init.d directory16:08
[T]an3simonft2: yes, anyone can16:08
deserteaglenot in /dev16:08
thoreauputicdeserteagle: so you are running the ose version, right?16:08
deserteagleyes16:08
sdakak[T]an3: Yes there is I forgot its name. I used it. It is called pdf-edit or something.16:09
thoreauputicdeserteagle: on gutsy ?16:09
simonft2im tring to get wireless to work on a powerbook G416:09
xACExusr/lib/vmware-server/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware-server/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2)16:09
thoreauputic!bcm43xx | Simonft16:09
ubotuSimonft: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx16:09
frostburnsdakak, The search domains are the default domains in which your system will search any host when no domain is specified.16:09
simonft2thanks16:09
sanozukehello were gcc in xubuntu16:09
thoreauputicsanozuke: sudo apt-get install build-essential16:09
xACExanyone has any idea??16:09
shane2peruwhat is the normal ftp port?16:10
[T]an3sdakak: is this the one you are thinking of? pdfedit.petricek.net/download_e.htm16:10
simonft2that helps16:10
sanozuke2116:10
thoreauputicshane2peru: 21 ( but another port is also used)16:10
shane2peruthoreauputic, for filezilla setting up my ftp for my account, probably just 2116:10
shane2peruthoreauputic, thanks16:11
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thoreauputicshane2peru: yes16:11
sanozuketo use gcc and perl16:11
shane2peruthoreauputic, that was it, thanks!16:12
simonft2thoreauputic: i get an error16:12
deserteaglethoreauputic: 8.04b (hardy beta?)16:12
simonft2The software source for the package16:12
simonft2   bcm43xx-fwcutter16:12
simonft2 is not enabled.16:12
xACExanyone knows how to fix this issue with launching vmware16:12
xACExusr/lib/vmware-server/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware-server/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib32/libcairo.so.2)16:12
thoreauputic!info bcm43xx-fwcutter16:12
ubotubcm43xx-fwcutter (source: bcm43xx-fwcutter): Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:006-3 (gutsy), package size 25 kB, installed size 116 kB16:12
sanozukehow can i use perl and gcc16:12
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thoreauputicsimonft2: enable universe in Sotware Sources16:13
sdakak[T]an3: I think it is in the repos16:13
thoreauputic*Software Sources16:13
sdakak[T]an3: And there is just one of them.16:13
simonft2where is that16:13
simonft2im new16:13
sdakak[T]an3: It is very slow and clumsy beware!16:13
thoreauputic!hardy deserteagle16:13
simonft2found it16:13
thoreauputic!hardy | deserteagle16:14
ubotudeserteagle: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!16:14
thoreauputicdeserteagle:  /join #ubuntu+1 please16:14
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gaara#apache16:14
gaarahi16:14
pelandritwenas16:14
daleanyone ever used gOS? i was thinking anout buying one of those gPC computers, but i don't know if the os is any good16:15
Zeltagaara: Type /join #apache to join #apache16:15
gaaracan any one there give me agood channel for apache or Lamp plzzzzzzzz16:15
thoreauputicsimonft2: ubder System-Admin I think - but you found it I assume :)16:15
Nanexmjhgjhgjhgjhg16:15
Zeltadale: It is nice, being that it uses E17, and is quite lightweight, but it is currently not very fully featured16:15
thoreauputicgaara:  #apache ?16:15
ZeltaWere I you, I would wait a few months16:15
gaaraya16:15
Nanexhello my from in venezuela16:15
sdakakfrostburn: ok.16:15
ZeltaUntil gOS Rocket 2 gets out of Beta16:15
mb--hey, can some help me with kickstart? i have url --url http://de.archive.ubuntu.org/ubuntu/ in my ks.cfg but the ubuntu installer is always using the us mirror16:15
Nanexhola que tal como estan16:16
mb--is smt wrong?16:16
Jack_Sparrow!es > Nanex16:16
Zelta!es | Nanex16:16
ubotuNanex: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:16
dalewell, i was thinking about the new gOS space16:16
NanexHOLA QUE TAL16:16
NanexDE DONDE SON USTEDES16:16
FloodBot2Nanex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:16
criXtianohi, Im trying to do:16:16
criXtianocris@pardal:~$  mount -t nfs 192.168.1.121:/opt/public /mnt/hidrolago/zezinho -O defaults,uid=111116:16
criXtianomount: operação exclusiva de root16:16
b4l74z4rwhen i installed gutsy, it reserved almost 6 gb of hd space for the swap file, has this fault been corrected in hardy?16:16
criXtianowhy "mount" said the operations is exclusive root ?16:16
NanexESTE CHAT DE DONDE ES ES PRIMERA VES QUE ME METO16:16
Zelta!es | Nanex16:17
ubotuNanex: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.16:17
MimiMmmmmmmm I used to find Hardware Information under the start menu, but its no longer there O.o how can i launch that app?16:17
ng0nwhere is the NTFS .trash-my nick located ?16:17
NanexZELTA QUE PASO?16:17
Jack_SparrowNanex, English only pleae.. as you can see we have an spanish channel16:17
ZeltaNanex: Please do not spam in this channel.  Join #ubuntu-es for Spanish Ubuntu support16:17
legend2440Mimi: hal-device-manager16:17
darren_hi i am a ubuntu noob so what they say16:17
d0lphin_n0elnews ubuntu distro outs today right?!16:17
MimiThanks legend2440 :)16:18
Zelta!hardy | d0lphin_n0el16:18
ubotud0lphin_n0el: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!16:18
Jack_Sparrowd0lphin_n0el, tomorrow.. sometime16:18
noodlesgcd0lphin_n0el tomorrow16:18
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thoreauputic!tell Nanex about es16:18
evanfraserhi folks16:18
d0lphin_n0elnoodlesgc only miss a few hours16:18
d0lphin_n0elless then 24 :)16:18
mb--hey, can some help me with kickstart? i have url --url http://de.archive.ubuntu.org/ubuntu/ in my ks.cfg but the ubuntu installer is always using the us mirror16:18
dalei have an older computer with a cd burner that was made in like 1998, are there any cd creating software apps out there that will work with it?16:19
darren_ji am trying to install the driver for my nvidia card off the nvidia sight to have dual mon run at diffrent res16:19
Jack_Sparrowdale, any of them should work16:19
dalewell, i keep getting a message about my drive not being supported, and it says possibly due to it being so old16:20
rwycuffdale:as long as the burner still works and ubuntu see's it as medium k3b...cdrecord what ever will work16:20
Jack_Sparrowdale, install K3b and see if it will burn for you16:20
dalethanks16:20
KajaWonder if a ten-year-old cd burner works =)16:20
Chaotic_Descentguh. manually editin gfstab is tricky. should I just go with defaults for a partition to store pictures and video on? or do I want to take out stuff like nouser option?16:20
darren_lol16:20
KajaMust be _really_ slow too.16:21
co0lingFir3how can i create an archive with password?16:21
darren_how can i use diffrent resalutions on dual moniters16:22
daleit is really slow, it burns at like 4x, but my other computer died, so i'm stuck with this one for now16:23
darren_whin i have ubuntu use the restricted driver i only have 800x600 on both mon16:23
co0lingFir3how can i create an archive with password in ubuntu?16:24
noodlesgc!resolutions | darren_16:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi16:24
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daemon3So, what is going to be so cool about Ubuntu 8.04?16:24
thomsenhi16:24
Dusti[n]darren_ did you try config your monitor?16:24
thomseni just installed gutsy on my acer aspire laptop16:24
praneethhey I have a problem installing nxclient 64 bit... can i get some help16:24
thomsensuprised that wifi etc works :D16:24
thomsenmy problem is that sound first didnt work, then with alsamixer i put all switches full on16:25
thomsennow sound does work16:25
thomsenbut16:25
thomsenthe control doesnt work16:25
evanfraserAnyone have problems with 8.04 server not booting after upgrading from 7.10?16:25
Picievanfraser: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.16:25
evanfraserThanks pici16:25
thomsenwith control i mean the volume16:25
thomsenits always full on16:25
ng0nsparrow: where would i fine the NTFS trash ?16:25
noodlesgcdaemon3 you can read about new stuff in Hardy at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/hardy/beta16:25
thomsenalso when i mute it16:25
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thomseni hope someone can help me16:26
sdakakI can't browse with the firewall on! I got firestarter installed. I have to stop-it and then dns resolution takes place.16:26
praneethhas any one installed nxclient 64 bit16:26
thomsenwhy can't i change my volume with the volume-controll applet in the taskbar nor with my keyboard, itś allways on 100%?16:27
rwycuffthomsen:sounds like the driver isnt installed correctly16:27
damien__use alsamixer from the command line in the mean time thomsen16:28
sdakakikonia: there?16:28
j2daoshhow do i reconfigure x? i need to change the display mode so i can get it to use my full laptop screen... its only using about half the viewable space right now16:28
thomsenok, so iĺl have to wait for an update?16:28
reya276does anyone knows if there is an app that lets you test gtk-themes?16:28
Picithomsen: Or you have the wrong mixer selected as the one to modify when changing the volume in System>Preferences>Sound16:28
j2daoshhold that though, phone call16:28
damien__sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver -xorg16:28
damien__i think16:28
spydonsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg j2daosh16:28
nibblecatfuck this shit16:28
Picireya276: yes.... its on the tip of my tongue16:28
thomsenPici, thanks iĺl try to look at that16:28
spydongod damn it damien__ :P16:28
sdakakthoreauputic: there?16:28
reya276Pici: yes mines too16:28
noodlesgc!language16:29
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:29
damien__;D16:29
daemon3Man, I'm dense.16:29
reya276nibblecat: why the profanity, is there anything you need help with?16:29
Picireya276: the package's name is thewidgetfactory, but the exectuable once you install it is twf16:29
damien__maybe you can hlep with with my issue - pcmcia wireless is dropping after anything intensive, requires reboot. using rt61pci driver.16:29
daemon3I just realized that the names of Ubuntu versions are in alphabetical order.16:29
PiciHes gone.16:29
en0xhey16:30
thoreauputicspydon: you better consider your words too16:30
stageranyone know why the ubuntu 7.10 server install would fail at the base system16:30
thomsenPici, thanks, that worked, i selected PCM :)16:30
reya276Pici: thanks16:30
Kcaj[UBuntu]What is Gnome GUI for Apache? Are there one?16:30
en0xwill the new ubuntu 8.04 support X-Fi sound card?16:30
sdakakthoreauputic: I have to turn off firestarter now to browse.16:30
spydonthoreauputic, sorry :P16:30
Kcaj[UBuntu]en0x: Mine seems to be working, afaik16:30
thomsenbye16:30
en0xKcaj[UBuntu]: without anything?16:30
en0xor u had to install something16:30
thoreauputicsdakak: well, that's a firewall config issue,. right ?16:30
thoreauputicspydon: OK - just remember :)16:31
co0lingFir3hi! how can i create an archive with password?16:31
sdakakthoreauputic: It has_now_become a firewall config issue16:31
Kcaj[UBuntu]yes16:31
crimsunen0x: depends on the model.16:31
sdakakthoreauputic: Before the whole network-manager uninstall thing it didn't happen. What should I do?16:31
stagerHas anyone had any problems installing the gutsy gibbon server install?16:31
en0xcrimsun: i have x-fi fatal1ty16:31
Symmetriaanyone know what I have to install to get nparted installed16:31
thoreauputicsdakak: think?  You probably need to look at your firestarter settings, yes ?16:32
sdakakthoreauputic: Yes.16:32
damien__stager: what exactly doesn';t work?16:32
sdakakthoreauputic: can you help?16:32
ribothe countdown on ubuntu.com last night was mean : (  1 <refresh> 1 <refresh> 1 <refresh> 2?!?!?!?!?16:32
thoreauputicsdakak: ...16:32
stagerdamien__: the base system install16:32
Pici!party | ribo16:33
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stagerunable to install the slected kernel16:33
ribohaha16:33
crimsunen0x: you would need to use Creative's latest beta driver.16:33
Sakehey guys, a very general ubuntu question: As far as security goes, is it safer to put ubuntu 6.04 in production because it's had a longer run or am I smarter to use the late release coming out tomorrow?16:33
sdakakthoreauputic: Thought you do understand that re-configuring the network has made it a firewall config issue don't you?16:33
thoreauputicsdakak: just ask the channel - there are currently 1370 othher people here you know16:33
sdakakthoreauputic: sorry.16:33
thoreauputicsdakak: I can't solve all your problems :)16:33
sdakakI can't browse. I have to stop firestarter to browse.16:33
crimsunSake: depends on your requirements and uses, really.16:34
damien__stager: although it doesn't answer your question, i'd recommend installing the hardy RC - it's going to be LTS so it will be better for your server install16:34
thoreauputicsdakak: hint: check outgoing permissions on port 80 in firestarter16:34
stagerwhats LTS?16:35
ikexLong Term Support16:35
stageroh ok heh16:35
stagerthanks16:35
sdakakthoreauputic: If only I knew how.16:35
ikexnp :]16:35
stagerthanks ill try that now16:35
wikzo(I live in Europe) How long time is there for the 7.04 launch?16:35
erUSUL!lts > stager16:35
thoreauputicsdakak: open firestarter, click the help button. Alternatively, visit the firestarter home page16:36
stagerlol16:36
erUSULwikzo: - one year XD16:36
geniiwikzo: About a year ago. The 8.04 is another matter16:36
Fritzelnewbie shell question here, if I export a variable inside a shell script is that variable still present after exiting the script?16:36
sdakakthoreauputic: I would better feed myself first. Thank you :)16:36
sdakakfrostburn: thank you :)16:36
wikzogenii: Stupid typo. I meant 8.04, of course :P16:36
Mimi<stager> Has anyone had any problems installing the gutsy gibbon server install?  ---- did you get an answer to this? I just started paying attention on this channel :) (Im working a bit)16:37
rwycuffFritzel : what shell you scripting in16:37
stagerMimi: no but i am going to try the LTS install16:37
erUSULFritzel: no; a shell spawns a new shell to run the script and the closes it iirc16:37
geniiwikzo: It could be pretty much anytime during the 24th (from GMT)16:37
wikzogenii: Ok16:37
Yodudehey does anyone know the exact release time of hardy in GMT time ?16:37
frostburnsdakak, no prob16:37
erUSULFritzel: so the variable only lives through the live of the script16:38
Fritzelrwycuff, erUSUL: bash, and alright is there a way to make it exist outside the script? the entire purpose of the script is to set WINEDEBUG easily so I sort of need it to16:38
Mimistager: the reason i ask is because when I tried to install, and then boot, it gives a kernel panic saying cpu is too old for this kernel. easy fix is to install linux-generic kernel. Is this the problem you had?16:38
Fritzeler wait nevermind I can use an alias16:39
Yodudeanyone ?16:39
stagerMimi: No i wasnt even able to install it from scratch. it would stop at 86% and say "Installing the base system fail"16:39
rwycuffFritzel:google for shell script piping for bash and you can pipe data where ever you want it16:39
geniiYodude:  It could be pretty much anytime during the 24th (from GMT)16:39
Mimistager, oh oh ok :) thanks for letting me  know16:40
thoreauputicYodude: no. It will be officially released when all the mirrors are synced16:40
Yodudegenii: ah ok, thnx for your help16:40
stagerMimi: no prob16:40
Fritzelrwycuff, ok thanks ^^16:40
thoreauputicYodude: no one knows exactly16:40
Yodudethoreauputic: kk16:40
aotianlongbye every one16:40
thoreauputic;)16:40
aotianlongtime to sleep16:40
ng0nok.. i got NTFS write support.  when i used delete before i think it just deleted the icon on the drive menu.  how do i get the icon back16:41
Yodudethnx guys n cu on hardy soon16:41
benanzoHow do I find the URL to a deb available from a repo in my sources.list?16:42
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Picithoreauputic: thanks16:42
wild_oscaris there a way to define the .deb file in apt-get?16:43
wild_oscarI'm getting this error:16:43
wild_oscarE: The package amule-daemon needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.16:43
plagerismSomething changed from openssh4.6p1 and openssh4.7p1 which will not allow me to ssh to proprietary ssh 2.0 server on our network switches.  Anyone have any clue what it may be? Error is channel 0: open failed: resource shortage: Channel open failed16:43
noodlesgcbenanzo you could go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package you want16:43
jui_puterwild_oscar: Why don't you try dpkg?16:43
thoreauputicPici: Not aht anyone will read it of course :)16:43
benanzoBut if it's not in an Ubuntu repo -- the URL has to be stored somewhere -- I just can't seem to find it with any of the 'apt-cache' options16:44
wild_oscarjui_puter: how do I reinstall with dpkg?16:45
VletI just got my new server in for the office, and I'm wondering if anyone could advise me on whether or not I 'should' use the 64 bit version of the server dist... in other words, am I going to find that some software in the repos is not available for 64bit?16:45
maekVlet, if its a high volume server then I would go 64-bit16:46
StroganoffVlet only binary drivers and crap like adobe flash player pose problems for 64bit AFAIK16:46
jui_puterlet me see...16:46
AzaThtanyone able to add an search engine to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ ?16:46
baboI'm using the DNS pass-thru service from dyndns. I set up mycomputer.homelinux.org to point to my local server. It worked fine, then my local IP switched, so i changed it. Now it won't work at all :-(16:47
thoreauputicbenanzo: apt-cache show moc | grep Filename  <-- as an example16:47
benanzoAzaTht: Google "site:irclogs.ubuntu.com search_string"16:47
VletStroganoff, maek: great, thanks. Yeah, it's dual quad xeons with 8 gigs of memory, so yeah, 64 bit would be a 'good thing'. Just wanted to double-check :)16:47
thoreauputicbenanzo: substitute <packagename> for "moc" of course16:47
saanso today ubuntu asked me to upgrade my firefox. and i did. and now it is completely broken. anyone have an idea?16:47
AzaThtbenanzo: true, didn't think of that ツ16:47
stabeno_What is the command to bring up the gui utility to reconfigure the video section in xorg.conf16:47
saani've aptitude purged it after it failed over and over, and reinstalled--no help16:48
saanif i run firefox, nothing happens16:48
saanecho $? == 1, no other messages16:48
Stroganoffsaan: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-backup16:48
VletAlso, the server dist expects the bios system time to be UTC I would imagine, yes?16:48
ikoniadid someone call me ?16:48
jui_puterJust dpkg -i file.deb should work wild_oscar16:48
j2daoshback16:48
Piciikonia: sdakak 20 minutes ago16:49
StroganoffVlet i dont think so16:49
saanstroganoff: that worked. what does that mean?16:49
saanstroganoff: thanks16:49
ikoniaPici: ta, my last log isn't buffering long enough16:49
Stroganoffsaan this removed your profile directory, storing your settings and stuff16:49
benanzothoreauputic: that gives me the path without the domain -- I was hoping there was something that would show the full URL16:49
j2daoshok, how do i make my display ALL of my laptop display? right now its showing about 680x800 of my 1024x768 screen16:49
thoreauputicbenanzo: the domain is wahtever you have in your /etc/apt/sources.list16:49
ikoniaj2daosh: change the resolution16:50
j2daoshi tried, it just changes the resolution of the little square box it is currently displaying in16:50
saanstroganoff: any idea how i can find out what broke it in the profile? I mean, there are passwords stored there, bookmarks, etc etc16:50
thoreauputicbenanzo: the part in the output is just tacked on to the correct path for the repository16:50
VletThanks again Stroganoff16:50
Stroganoffsaan restore the things you need (like bookmarks and passwords) and forget about the incident ;)16:50
j2daoshhalf my screen is just a black border basically16:50
benanzowhere does apt get the domain from?  does it stitch them together?16:50
saanha ha16:50
inmahi16:50
ikoniaj2daosh: view your xorg log to see what it thinks the situaton with your screen is16:50
thoreauputicbenanzo: for instance,  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/moc/16:51
thoreauputicand so on16:51
benanzoI see thanks16:52
saanugh. it's not clear which files matter in the .mozilla directoyr. and actually, i had 4 different profiles16:52
saangotta wonder what really happened :(16:52
thoreauputicbenanzo: the urls are in /etc/apt/sources.list :)16:52
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j2daoshwhat am i looking for inside this output file?16:52
saanbut anyway, thanks16:52
ikoniaj2daosh: the definition of what it things your screen is16:53
j2daoshi see the various modes available, but i dont know which one its choosing16:53
j2daoshok, lemme grep it16:53
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benanzoYes but I was just thinking they were stored as meta data for each available package --16:53
benanzoI guess not16:53
DexterFhi16:53
saanwhich file is the password database for firefox? key.db?16:54
kbrosnansaan: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Basic+troubleshooting#To_fix_the_problem_in_the_original_profile16:54
saanexcellent, thanks kbrosnan16:54
thoreauputicbenanzo: that would be redundant - suppose you change your preferred mirror16:54
DexterFhow do I restore 3D rendering after removing fglrx? I used to have simple 3D support with free ati driver, after uninstalling fglrx it doesn't work anymore.16:54
j2daoshits using 640x48016:54
DexterFdo I need to reinstall something? some mesa package perhaps?16:54
j2daoshsays it couldn't find a mode for the 1024x768, but that is mode 3416:55
ikoniaj2daosh: thats not the screen definition, thats resolution16:55
Fritzelis there a way I can keep bash from putting a space in when it sets a variable? this is my problem http://pastebin.com/d67293c7c16:55
thoreauputicbenanzo: apt only needs the last part - if the mirror address changes it still works16:55
ikoniaj2daosh: what video card is this on16:55
saancheers folks, merci16:55
xFlipxmorning16:55
ikoniaj2daosh:I've seen similar issues with ati cards16:55
j2daosha pos intel 828 onboard16:55
benanzoAhh yes, good point16:55
StroganoffDexterF: change driver in Xorg.conf from vesa to ati16:55
ikoniaj2daosh: what driver is xorg using for it ?16:55
DexterFStroganoff: it *is* the old xorg.conf, I backed it up16:55
benanzoso then how do I find in which repo a package is in?16:56
Stroganoffbenanzo: http://packages.ubuntu.com16:56
benanzonot just ubuntu packages16:56
grimsWould reinstalling the kernel fix a kernel panic?16:56
thoreauputicbenanzo: that is right there in the output of the apt-cache show16:56
ikoniagrims: depends on the panic16:56
j2daoshi81016:56
noodlesgcbenanzo click the "origin" button in synaptic16:56
ikoniaj2daosh: try changing it to the intel driver16:56
thoreauputicbenanzo: or apt-cache policy for that matter16:57
ikoniaj2daosh: I've never seen this issue with intel16:57
thoreauputicnoodlesgc: he's using apt :)16:57
j2daoshok, what is the command for reconfiguring?16:57
ikoniaj2daosh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg16:57
ikoniaj2daosh: select the intel driver and select only the resolution you want to use (not lower)16:57
deserteaglethoreauputic: i'm back16:57
grimsikonia, the panic is happening within 2 hours of the computer being on even if it is idling.  -- the hardware is fine (tested it [including ram with memtest]) and I am unsure what to do16:57
deserteaglethoreauputic: sorry 'bout that16:57
ikoniagrims: do you actually get the message kernel panic ?16:58
grimsno, thats what's weird about it -- it just locks up, and the keyboard lights flash16:58
thoreauputicdeserteagle: sorted out your problem?16:58
ikoniagrims: ok - so thats not a kernel panic16:58
j2daoshthat command didn't work16:58
SunRayCafeinstalled 8.04 RC yesterday. Getting seemingly random mouse and keyboard lockup. Other system activity seems to continue, and when they become active again a few seconds later they catchup any typing/movement that occurred in the meantime.16:58
deserteaglethoreauputic: well, i think i'm down to getting the vboxdrv in /dev16:58
ikoniaj2daosh: what vesion of ubuntu are you using16:58
j2daoshdpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg16:58
noodlesgcSunRayCafe #ubuntu+116:58
ikoniaj2daosh: no space16:58
grimsikonia, what do you think it could be then?16:58
SunRayCafethx16:58
ikoniaj2daosh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure16:58
j2daoshoh ok, ill try that16:59
ikoniagrims: do you know how to use sysrq ?16:59
j2daoshunknown options for reconfigure16:59
grimsikonia, no16:59
cgentry72I have normal visual effects enabled in ubuntu but how do I get wobbly effects etc16:59
j2daoshit thinks each letter of reconfigure is a switch16:59
noodlesgccgentry72 put extra effects?16:59
ikoniaj2daosh: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"16:59
thoreauputicdeserteagle: I have Vbox on hardy, and it pretty much Just Worked ( fwiw)16:59
deserteaglelol =\17:00
j2daoshi just tried that, it thinks every letter of 'reconfigure' is a switch assigned to dpkg17:00
ikoniagrims: ok, that make things a bit tricky17:00
j2daoshthere has to be a space17:00
LittleKilleranyone know how to make apache view a PHP file. It will view HTML but will not view PHP it downloads PHP17:00
ng0nanyone: i can't find the TRASH for NTFS drive.  where would /.Trash-ng0n be ???17:00
ikoniaj2daosh: there is no space, the command is dpkg-reconfigure17:00
j2daoshhmm...17:00
cgentry72noodlesgc, yes17:00
jonphLittleKiller: have you installed mod-php?17:01
grimsLittleKiller, you need to install PHP: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&highlight=php517:01
thoreauputicdeserteagle: well, I had to add myself to the group etc :) Did you try resarting hal to see if you could create the device node? ( just a guess really)17:01
j2daoshdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work, says "need an action option"17:01
cgentry72noodlesgc, question though, i want my windows to open centered is that under window behavior17:01
deserteaglethoreauputic: already restarted17:02
chronos!hardy17:02
prodigelHi. I'm having problems with games run by wine. My monitor displays this message "video mode not supported...". it worked before, now something changed.17:02
d4t4min3rcan I install ubuntu from a flash drive17:02
thoreauputicj2daosh: you must have a typo in  there somewhere - I've never seen " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " not start17:02
LittleKillerjonph: and grims Only if it comes with the pacakge in the sypanic > edit >mark package by task > LAMP17:02
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!17:02
noodlesgccgentry72 not sure17:02
lunartearif i have a package that someone installed, but dpkg still thinks it needs installed everytime another package fires up the packaging system to be installed, what can i do to remove that from its queue without affecting its current installation?17:03
grimsikonia: Are you talking about http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/17:03
j2daoshill pastebin it, hold please17:03
chronosWhat's the latest ubuntu I can download on DVD for my PPC mac?17:04
sahakhello17:04
sahaki upgraded to Ubuntu 8.0417:04
noodlesgcchronos wait till tomorrow and you can get the 8.0417:04
sahakno problems so far17:04
j2daoshgot it working, what driver? it doesn't have intel listed17:04
lunartearif i have a package that someone installed, but dpkg still thinks it needs installed everytime another package fires up the packaging system to be installed, what can i do to remove that from its queue without affecting its current installation?17:04
j2daoshis there a package i need to get?17:05
AndycasssI keep getting "SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or directory" when i try sudo ifup wlan0. Using bcm4311 wlan17:05
LittleKillerI don't see mod php in the Sypantic List17:05
thoreauputicj2daosh: usually the defaults in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  are OK to accept - did it select a driver for you?17:05
j2daoshyeah the i810 driver, but thats the one i am already using and its incorrect17:06
OberonKinghi... somebody knows why mi dvd-rw asus 1608p2 not working any more after Feisty?....... I'm using Hardy right now and the issue persist17:06
Lakewhat's the difference between BSD and Linux ? I read some articles but the only thing that comes up is the rate of release17:06
grimsLittleKiller, follow the instructions on the page I sent you -- it should work17:06
j2daoshi think i will try with the nv driver and see what happens17:06
thoreauputicj2daosh: how do you know it's incorrect?17:06
deserteaglethoreauputic: meh, i'm just going with vmware17:06
deserteaglethoreauputic: wasting too much time on this :P17:06
xTheGoat121xGreetings everyone.17:06
incorrectlies17:07
thoreauputicj2daosh: could it be the right driver with the wrong H and V frequencies for example?17:07
d4t4min3rcan I install ubuntu HH from Flash drive?17:07
LittleKillergrims: I have php installed php5 came with the package I installed17:07
thoreauputicj2daosh: is this an nvidia card?17:08
j2daoshnope, its just a generic intel onboard17:08
thoreauputicj2daosh: nv is for nvidia17:08
noodlesgcj2daosh do you have the xserver-video-intel package installed?17:08
thoreauputicj2daosh: so it's certainly the wrong choice :)17:08
j2daoshi did a cache search for intel and that wasn't a package available so either yes, or not and its not available17:09
noodlesgcj2daosh ok, which release are you using? Gutsy?17:09
thoreauputic!info xserver-video-intel17:09
grimsikonia: Are you talking about http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/17:10
geo___hi17:10
geo___i have a problem17:10
OberonKinghi... somebody knows why mi dvd-rw asus 1608p2 not working any more after Feisty?....... I'm using Hardy right now and the issue persist.... sorry but I'm a little sad about this17:10
geo___how will i make install aircrack?17:10
j2daoshnot sure which one, 7.1017:10
CrashedHey guys, what's it mean when the kill command doesn't output anything?17:10
thoreauputicah ubotu has quit :|17:11
StroganoffCrashed: use killall17:11
Crashedkillall17:11
ubotuPackage xserver-video-intel does not exist in gutsy17:11
Andycassshow to uninstall bcm43xx drivers that came automatically?17:11
Stroganoffkillall badprogram17:11
noodlesgc!info xserver-xorg-video-intel17:11
CrashedHm.17:12
thoreauputicCrashed: it usually means it worked :)17:12
espereguanyone experience with REALTEC ALC1200 audio chipset? (I get no sound)17:12
CrashedBut it didn't work :(17:12
Andycassshow to uninstall bcm43xx drivers that came automatically? (I want to use ndiswrapper instead)17:12
thoreauputicCrashed: you checked the pid ? pidof baddapp ?17:12
CrashedYeah.17:12
CrashedI'm trying to use kill through php.17:12
thoreauputic!repeat | Andycasss17:12
ubotuxserver-xorg-video-intel (source: xserver-xorg-video-intel): X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9.1 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-i386 lpia m68k mips mipsel netbsd-i386 powerpc)17:12
noodlesgcj2daosh try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel17:13
Crashedshell_exec("kill -9 $pid");17:13
ubotuAndycasss: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience17:13
j2daoshcant find the package17:13
_moro_bana_i have ubuntu running, how can i add server packs from the ubuntu-server disc?17:13
thoreauputichmmm  ubotu is lagging :|17:14
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noodlesgcj2daosh ok just type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel17:14
JeruvyHmm when using VNC and rebooting the PC, how do I ensure X starts back at the correct display mode?  Having problem of it changing  and not allowing it to change back (says it is but is doing nothig)?17:14
j2daoshthats what i tried and it says couldn't find it17:14
Samstone|Juniorhi all17:15
noodlesgcj2daosh odd. are you trying to fix resolution?17:15
thoreauputicj2daosh: try running  sudo apt-get update   first.17:15
LittleKillerI have problem with LAMP I can view HTML files but when I click PHP it downloads it rather than viewing it. and Yes I have php5 installed.17:15
grimsbtb17:15
grimsbrb17:15
Crashedkill isn't outputting anything, and it's not killing anything. And I verified the PID.17:15
Crashed:[17:15
geo___sorry17:15
erUSUL!lamp | LittleKiller17:15
ubotuLittleKiller: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)17:15
sahakif you go to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ in the "Standards" paragraph it says "The primary entrée to these discussions ...". What is "entrée"?17:15
geo___how may i crack wep keys?17:15
j2daoshdid the update and still dont have the package available17:16
thoreauputicCrashed:  you might need the dreaded  kill -9 <pid number>17:16
Boohbahgeo___: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+wep+crack17:16
noodlesgcj2daosh ok do you have all the repositories enabled?17:16
Boohbahgeo___: google is great ain't it?17:16
j2daoshi believe so lemme double check17:16
DJonesgeo___: just key in the appropriate password/key17:16
thoreauputicCrashed: but that's a last resort as it doesn't clean up17:17
strtokanyone have a recommendation on how to update a bios from ubuntu? the freedos method won't work because my bios file size exceeds the freedos floppy size17:17
BoohbahDJones: i think he wants to brute force the key, without prior knowledge17:17
blankboyIs the a rss feed for downloading the torrent for ubuntu 8.04 went it comes out ?17:17
spinikerhello17:17
mikefizzhey everybody, i have a question about dell laptop partitions17:17
erUSULstrtok: you can create a bootable freedos iso i recall seying a how to about it17:17
_moro_bana_erUSUL: how can i add LAMP from the server disc, if its possible?17:17
j2daoshyeah, they are all enabled17:17
Boohbah!lamp17:18
idealab_locoThe Ubuntu 8.04 is coming17:18
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)17:18
DJonesBoohbah: Maybe, but that would most likely be illegal and offtopic17:18
thoreauputic_moro_bana_: fire up tasksel and select LAMP17:18
spinikeris it possible for someone who claims he could do a ddos to use it against a ubuntu pc?17:18
BoohbahDJones: not illegal or offtopic...17:18
Scunizi!ask | mikefizz17:18
ubotumikefizz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)17:18
noodlesgcj2daosh try installing the 915resolution package17:18
_moro_bana_thoreauputic: aaaaaaa! what is taskel17:18
Boohbahspiniker: it is possible, but you can protect against most DDoS with a staeful packet filter17:19
Boohbahstateful*17:19
_3mendore all17:19
thoreauputic_moro_bana_:  type  sudo tasksel  - it gives you a list of choices - LAMP is one of them17:19
spinikerso im still vulnerable using ubuntu17:19
j2daoshgot the package name off hand?17:19
franhi i seem to have a dodgy problem. []The following packages have unmet dependencies. []   libmp4v2-0: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.5-0ubuntu14 is to be installed []  libmp4v2-dev: Depends: libmp4v2-0 (= 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3) but 1:1.6dfsg-0.2ubuntu1 is to be installed17:19
fourthdimensionk guest17:19
mikefizzalright, I have a dell laptop with 3 partitions, the main one with xp on it, a dell restore partition, and a dell utility partition. Since i can only hvae 4 partitions max and also want to dual boot with ubuntu, is it safe to delete the dell restore and dell utility partitions17:19
franhow can i fix that ?17:19
thoreauputic_moro_bana_:  tasksel = "task select"17:19
j2daoshi already have that package installed17:20
geo___Djones : can u explain that to me please?17:20
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grimsikonia, the sysrq didn't do anything17:20
_moro_bana_thoreauputic: i see, nice. that will be from the disc right?17:21
Wafflemikefizz, if you have a problem with your windows partition the restore and utility partitions are what you would use17:21
Scunizimikefizz: what you might want to do is leave all those partitions in place and for the fourth partition create it as an extended partition.  That way you can make more partitions in the extended partition section.17:21
shane2peruanyone know why I can't go to my machine name instead of localhost in my web browser?17:21
thoreauputic_moro_bana_: I think LAMP is on the serer disk, yes17:21
thoreauputic*server17:21
Wafflemikefizz, if you call Dell and tell them you want to change your partitions around they might send you the recovery and utility discs17:21
Boohbahshane2peru: because you haven't mapped the ip address to the domain name17:22
CrashedHow do you add a user with ftp and ssh access?17:22
shane2peru_moro_bana_, I had trouble installing with the server disk, it failed on package selection with the rc and 64bit17:22
Crasheduseradd -d /home/crashed -s ?17:22
shane2peruBoohbah, how do I do that?17:22
Bidgethey how do I find out my ip again?17:22
Marfimikefizz, you can have more than 4 partitions17:22
Bidgetwhat do I type in a terminal so I can see my ip?17:22
noodlesgcj2daosh 915resolution17:22
joe___are we there yet? are we there yet?17:22
linkinxp:D17:22
StroganoffBidget: ifconfig17:22
linkinxpare we  ready!!17:22
joe___save17:22
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j2daoshok, i have to wait a sec, system updating on me17:22
_moro_bana_shane2peru: ooh!17:22
BoohbahBidget: ifconfig17:22
shane2perujoe___, almost only another day.17:22
Bidgetah thanks Stroganoff I knew it was something like that17:23
shane2peru_moro_bana_, you can give it a try and see if they got it working. :)17:23
shane2peru_moro_bana_, I did file a bug on it.17:23
Boohbahshane2peru: edit /etc/hosts17:23
joe___shane2peru: cool17:23
_moro_bana_shane2peru: ok17:23
* thoreauputic suggests that everyone type /topic17:23
LetterRiphi can anyone recommend a good tool for managing cpuspeed, fan activity, etc.17:23
blankboy_Is the a rss feed for downloading the torrent for ubuntu 8.04 went it comes out ?17:23
LetterRippreferably that has a nice applet17:23
shane2peruBoohbah, ahh, ok, thanks!17:23
thoreauputicsince no-one seems to read the /topic, especially concerning release times17:24
noodlesgcLetterRip try emifreq-applet17:24
mikefizzhow do i install ubuntu on an extended partition?17:24
Boohbahthoreauputic: something you'll learn with irc support is that most questions have already been asked and answered, it is just a matter of finding the answers17:25
Slartmikefizz: just install it to an extended partition? I don't think you have to do something special17:25
blankboy_Im talking about a rss feed so i can add the rss to my torrent app to start the torrent went its made.17:25
thoreauputicmikearr: you don't - you make a partition in the extended partition to install on :)17:25
thoreauputicBoohbah: excuse me?17:25
mikefizzslart: thanks, i will try that17:26
Boohbahthoreauputic: your expectations that people will read the topic are futile :)17:26
Slartmikefizz: ah.. thoreauputic is right.. you install to a logical partition inside an extended partition17:26
thoreauputicBoohbah:  erm.... it is not an expectation :)17:26
thoreauputicBoohbah: and I agree17:26
icehangerwhats the backup tool for ubuntu17:27
thoreauputicBoohbah: I guess I learnt that oh, about 6 years ago :)17:27
mikefizzslart: so basically, shrink my xp partition, make an extended partion in the space left over, then install ubuntu on that17:27
Slarticehanger: there are lots.. hang on.. let me try something17:27
Slart!backup | icehanger17:27
ubotuicehanger: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:27
thoreauputicBoohbah: doesn;t hurt to suggest it though ;p17:28
Jeruvy!vnc17:28
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX17:28
icehangerthanks17:28
Slartmikefizz: almost.. shrink the xp partition.. create an extended partition, create a logical parition in that extended partition, install to the logical parition17:28
grims!sysrq17:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sysrq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:28
Jeruvy!x17:28
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto17:28
LittleKillerI just went throught that whole page and still php files downlaod17:28
grimsDoes anyone know why sysrq wont work for me :[. I think its mad at me hah17:29
Slartgrims: what do you want to do?17:29
mikefizzslart: haha ok, i dont know why dell has to make things so complicated, you know they're shipping some of their new laptops with gutsy already installed17:29
Slartmikefizz: I guess they charge for support ? =)17:29
grimsSlart, well I am getting crashes within 20 minutes of my computer running, the keyboard lights are flashing, and it locks up -- but no kernel panic message17:30
Boohbahmikefizz: because dell customers don't know how to install operating systems17:30
thoreauputicBoohbah: would you like to share any other pearls of wisdom with a grey bearded jaded geek ? *grin*17:30
Slartgrims: checked your cpu temp?17:30
Boohbahgrims: anything in dmesg?17:30
Boohbahthoreauputic: if you have a grey bear you are probably older than me :)17:30
cycomBear?! WHERE?!17:31
thoreauputicBoohbah: almost certainly, yes :)17:31
grimsSlart, cpu temp is fine -- the hardware is fine -- all tested and used before switching over to ubuntu -- even tested memory with memtest8617:31
mikefizzslart: dell support is really amazing, at least as far as hardware goes, i havent really had any problems i couldnt fix on my own with software17:31
Boohbahcycom: in the picnic basket! :)17:31
grimsBoohBah, not sure, how would i check dmesg?17:31
Boohbahgrims: just type 'dmesg'17:31
cycomhey Boohbah, how about a nice pickanic basket?!17:31
cycomk, I'm out.17:31
grimsBoohbah, After I reboot?17:31
Boohbahcycom: :)17:32
thoreauputicBoohbah: cycom The ranger won't like it, Yogi!17:32
grimsSlart and Boohbah, I was trying to do alt sysrq REISUB17:32
Boohbahgrims: yeah, there should be info about the previously running kernel in there17:32
thoreauputic:D17:32
grimsBoohbah, okay one second -- I am rebooting it now17:32
Slartgrims: try to find some kind of common link to these crashes.. is it exactly at the same time after a reboot? (20 minutes, 5 seconds for example).. or when you run a certain program.. or when cpu temp reaches a certain value.. look for messages in dmesg, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kernel17:33
lunartearhow do i tell dpkg to believe a package installed correctly?17:33
johnn1hello, need help on DVD17:33
grimsSlart -- Okay, I will check all of that.  It seems to be very random / sparatic17:33
johnn1i can't read original dvd on Heron17:33
johnn1restricted already installed17:34
LittleKiller    17:34
Slartgrims: huh? sysrq REISUB? Is that something I've totally missed after using linux for 2 years17:34
Slartaccording to google.. reisub = (Abbreviation) Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring17:34
psyminAnyone have advice on getting intel 3945 working under heron?17:34
BoohbahSlart: REISUB is just BUSIER backwards17:35
thoreauputicpsymin:  /join #ubuntu+117:35
Slartaha.. found it.. looks pretty neat.. never tried it myself.. http://flipsidereality.com/blog/nix/reisub/17:36
Boohbahhttp://lifehacker.com/software/linux-tip/gently-restart-a-frozen-system-298891.php17:36
esrefl17:36
Zarvoxhi all17:36
LittleKillercant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.17:36
LittleKillerit downloads the php files...17:37
psyminthank you thoreauputic17:37
robfI have two boxes,  one is serving NFS the other is the client,     if I reboot both boxes,  the server requires a longer boot time than the client.   If the server comes up AFTER the client,  NFS never mounts and requires a manual (mount -a etc.)  mount.17:37
Zarvoxcould you help me with hardy on a laptop17:37
thoreauputicpsymin: np17:37
robfis there a way to force retry of initial mount when it fails (if the server goes down after its mounted once,  it will remount it when it comes back,  its only the initial mount that fails and won't retry)17:37
thoreauputicZarvox: hardy questions in #ubuntu+117:38
psyminrobf: here is a poor solution .. have a cron that does mount -a every so often :) .. and another poor solution .. have rc set up an at command to call mount -a X minutes after boot17:38
goodhabitHello. I want to buy printer|scanner|copier for my pc. I have installed ubuntu only. How do I choose the model?17:38
sgbirchOh dear,   librmagick-ruby1.8 isn't installable on hardy. See bug 220811.  How can I discover if anyone is working on this bug?17:38
Zarvoxtx thoreauputic17:38
robfpsymin: yeah we have a script to do it,  but it seems there should be an internal method17:38
goodhabitBecause I am afraid of compability of devices.17:38
robfpsymin: which is what I'm looking for,  to reduce convolution17:38
psyminrobf: If you find a way, I'd love to hear it too :)17:38
komputeswho here has an eeepc?17:39
robfpsymin: heh... I'm wondering what differs from initial mount timeout/failure versus post mount loss of nfs server and then retrying when it comes back up....17:39
robfI mean what happens to that process...seems it hsould handle it the same both ways =\17:39
korohi, i have a problem with two different drives, one is a partition of my hard disk and the other is a pendrive, both use fat32 filesystem. I copied a whole folder from the disk to the pendrive and now i'm looking at both from ubuntu. The folder in the pendrive shows ok, but in the disk it shows the filenames incorrectly (non-ascii characters like accented vowels are incorrectly displayed)17:41
johnn1i can't see original dvd's on heron, error says it can't access the resource. restricted meta package installed17:41
korowhat confuses me is that in the pen drive they show up perfectly17:41
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koroand the content of the pendrive is an exact copy of the folder in the other fat32 disk17:41
koroany ideas what could cause this?17:41
thoreauputic!libdvdcss17:42
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs17:42
grimsBoohbah: http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf8 that is the dmesg -- it locked up before i could get the other logs :[17:42
korobtw i copied the folders using windows17:42
LittleKillercant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.17:42
LittleKillercant view php files on local server html files work fine. evertying is installed..just went through the whole process again and have the same problem.......please any help would br very appreciated.17:42
geo___who will i crack wep keys?17:42
robfgeo___: we you will won't done so cracking.17:43
robfis true this not your?17:43
robf...17:43
ng0n!#$@!$#17:43
robfanyhow anyone know a channel that would be supportive of NFS? #nfs is kinda empty17:43
ScuniziLittleKiller: if nobody here knows you might try /j #ubuntu-server .. sometimes takes a while for an answer.. depends on how many are actually watching the screen17:43
geo___its my wireless rooter and i wanna crack it?17:43
geo___can anyone help me?17:43
grims!rooter17:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rooter - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:44
Slart!router17:44
robfgeo___: google returns  literally thousands of howtos,17:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi17:44
robfit's not a difficult thing to do,  but definitely not supported in this channel17:44
geo___ok17:44
geo___thx17:44
grimsBoohbah and Slart: http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf8 that is the dmesg -- it locked up before i could get the other logs :[17:44
ng0nwhere are the .Trash files for NTFS drives located ?17:44
grimsand sysrq reisub did nothing lol17:44
Bidgetcan anyone tell me a good dock program so I can get a dock like in osx17:45
Slartgrims: didn't see anything special in there.. do you have the same problems if you run a live cd?17:46
grimsSlart, I will try that -- does it mean its a hardware problem if it does with the live cd?17:46
thoreauputicgeo___: cracking is definitely off-topic ( we can't know which questions are genuine for one thing)17:47
apexAnyone have a dual monitor ATI set up?  I'm trying to get bigdesktop working.  Its working but wont display monitors max rez of 1680x105017:47
Andycassswhy doesnt ifconfig give me "wlan0", while iwconfig does?!17:47
Samstone|Juniorhi all17:47
Slartgrims: perhaps.. at least it will give us something more to work with17:47
geo___tell me a channel for cracking please17:47
voriangeo___: there is no such channel17:47
Bidgetisnt cracking illegal...17:47
grimsGeo -> join a new network17:47
geo___ok17:48
thoreauputicgeo___: No-one here is going to tell you such stuff17:48
jonphfreenode is for OSS, it is not a generic IRC network17:48
geo___ok17:48
grimsgeo___, don't even try 260017:48
DJonesAndycasss: As far as I'm aware, the "w" in iwconfig is for "wireless" which is why that list wlan017:48
grimsgeo___, figured I would tell you that before you read anything17:48
robfBidget: technically... no17:49
Bidget"technically" no?17:49
Kcaj[UBuntu]I'm annoyed17:49
Bidgetlol17:49
robfBidget: not if it's "your own"  or permissable by whomever owns it17:49
AndycasssDJones: This is not the case, i want it to show up in ifconfig17:49
johnn1thanks17:49
BidgetI see17:49
geo___ok17:49
robfbut,  typically you won't find it discussed since the usual reasons are not acceptable17:49
Bidgetbut if its your own and you need to get into it why not just unplug it for a minute or two17:49
grimsSlart, I will run the live CD now -- how long are you on for [it may take a little bit before it locks]17:49
robfBidget: eh.. if its a router he doesn't need to do that,  theres a lil reset button ;p17:49
Bidgetwell yeah same thing17:50
Bidgethaha17:50
robfBidget: unplugging it doesn't work ,  (wrt~~ for example) lol ,  yeh17:50
Bidgethm17:50
Slartgrims: I'll be here for severtal hours still17:50
robfjust reset the settings... but it seems this isn't the case.. doesn't osund like he has physical access to the router17:50
grimsSlart, Ok -- thanks, I will go do it17:50
Kcaj[UBuntu]I can't drag+click? All the default themes look worse than Windows 3.1. Now Windows Key + Shortcuts?17:50
Bidgethas anyone installed and configured an osx-like dock for their ubuntu 7.10?17:50
thoreauputicBidget: you can reset to factory defaults - but you lose your config unless you backed it up17:50
robfotherwise he'd just use his password,  or does he not know both password / wepkey17:50
DJones!awn | Bidget17:50
ubotuBidget: Avant Window Navigator, is a dock-like navigation bar for the linux desktop that  positions itself at the bottom  of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/  Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and  in Universe  in Hardy17:50
Bidgetah yeah I guess that makes sense thoreauputic17:50
Bidgetoh thanks DJones17:51
robfthoreauputic: but if you can't modify said settings eg. lost password,   then the least of your worries is the unknown wep key + losing configs17:51
jason_bidget i use the mac osx dock bar17:51
Bidgetok17:51
jason_i love it17:51
robfgeo___: seriously... google it,  or maybe #backtrack has some folks in it17:51
thoreauputicrobf: yes - reconfiguring a router isn't rocket science :)17:52
Bidgetyeah Ive just been looking around to try and find a dock program cause my gf tried to use my computer a while ago and "couldnt figure it out" lol17:52
robfthoreauputic: cracking wep is much much more time consuming ;p17:52
jason_that dock bar is pretty stable17:52
robfand doesn't give you access to fix the problems you may also have lol17:52
jason_the mac one anyways17:52
Bidgetok17:52
jason_has quite a few ad on;s too17:52
Bidgetwhat is it called?17:52
Bidgetjust "mac osx dock" or something?17:53
jason_hmm... i think i found a guide on making the desktop look just like mac but the olny thing i used in the guide was the dock bar17:53
Bidgethm ok17:53
jason_yeah check that17:53
Bidgetk17:53
jason_good luck17:53
Bidgetthanks17:54
thoreauputicrobf: of course, some people specialise in bricking routers by not following instructions ;p17:54
jason_oo you can brick routors wow17:54
jason_i bricked my psp onces17:54
koroany clue about my problem?17:54
Bidgetapparently I can install linux on my router but I never tried cause I was scared to turn it into a paperweight lol17:54
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jason_ thay have some web site called tomato somting  like that its linux for routors17:55
obvio171i'm having the classic "/dev/dsp resource busy" error but can't find the culprit and don't want to. is there a way i can just "sudo mow-over-audio-and-bring-it-back"?17:55
Bidgetkoro Im sure if you told everyone your problem someone might be able to help you with it17:55
koroBidget: i did :(17:55
Bidgetoh17:55
kvaserdoes ubuntu support eather 64 bit or 32 cpu or both, or are there seperate versions for it ?17:55
BidgetI scrolled up and didnt see anything haha17:55
mariuspHi all, could someone with a little more experience help me with a small recipe. I am not sure Ive got the order of the recipes right.17:55
blankboy_obvio171: reboot17:55
Bidgetkvaser, I have a 64-bit version17:55
mcphailobvio171: "killall esd" often works17:55
Kcaj[UBuntu]I'm really upset17:55
nsandimanHi, I need to set up my sub infrared device on my ubuntu box...any help?17:56
obvio171blankboy_: short of that :)17:56
nsandiman*usb17:56
obvio171mcphail: it's not even up17:56
koroBidget: I copied a folder from a fat32 drive to a (fat32) pendrive using windows, and now when i look at them from ubuntu the copied folder (in the pendrive) shows up correctly but the source one shows incorrect non-ascii characters (e.g. accented characters are displayed as weird symbols)17:56
mariuspany procmail experta around?17:56
devin_need some help. My usplash is set to 640x480 by default and it looks gigantic on my screen so when i try and change it either with startupmanager or manually though /boot/grub/menu.lst the color on the ubuntu logo gets all messed up. how can i fix this?17:56
blankboy_obvio171: sorry that the M$ guide :P17:56
kvaserbidget does it work better with the 64 bit ?17:56
alex123hi guys, what's a good flow chart / diagram creation tool for ubuntu/linux?17:56
xjkxwhere is the "what's new" on the website about the new ubuntu that is coming17:56
Bidgetkvaser, Ive never used the 32-bit so I couldn't really tell you17:56
Bidgetkvaser, I imagine it would work pretty much the same although 64-bit instead of 32-bit haha17:57
thoreauputickoro: sounds like a limitation of fat32 ( characters etc.)17:57
xjkxi mean, about what the new is bringing17:57
napsy_Hello. How often are the translations updated from launchpad?17:57
obvio171alex123: i've heard of Dia, but haven't used it myself17:57
kvaseri suppose that all new cpu today are 64 ?17:57
alex123obvio171, thanks i'll check it out17:57
myIRChi, does anyone know if there is a working set of prc-tools for  64bits?17:57
Bidgetkvaser, a high majority I think yeah17:57
xjkxkvaser, mine isn't17:57
kvaserso core2duo cpu are 64 bit ?17:58
Bidgetyes17:58
ng0nok ok.  i found .Trash-ng0n on the NTFS drive !  how do i empty it ?17:58
mariuspBidget, are you  sure core2duo are 64 bit?17:58
Bidgetmariusp, Im about 99% sure yeah... why, is there one specific model that isn't?17:59
ng0ndo i just erase .Trash-ng0n , earse the file17:59
Boohbahng0n: is it a file or directory?17:59
Bidgetmariusp, all of the core2's I looked at buying were 64-bit17:59
mariuspBidget, no. I was just convinced that they were 32 bit :) Wikipedia proved otherwise...17:59
alex123mariusp, core2duos are 64 bit17:59
ng0nBoo. it's a directory17:59
Bidgetmariusp, ah ok18:00
Boohbahng0n: rm .Trash-ng0n/*18:00
ng0nthat contains file i want to get rid of.. i need the space for a backup.18:00
eedgeerrr, how can I have vnc working before login?18:00
grimsSlart, Got it to lock up on the live cd18:00
ng0nBoo.18:00
eedgenormal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.18:00
ng0nBoo. ok. i understand the command.  but how do I invoke it.18:01
ng0ncan i get to NTFS from terminal ?18:01
Slartgrims: hmm.. also after 20 minutes? even if you leave the computer alone.. not using it?18:01
pale-yaf1hi, I have ubuntu installed on the whole hard drive which contains one partition, is there a way to make another partition by taking space of the one where ubuntu is installed?18:01
Bidgetok so I was asking about the osx dock thing and someone linked me to this AWN program... if I use it, will it replace compiz and take all my nice effects away?18:01
fr500meh18:01
fr500dcc doesn work on xhcat gnome18:01
kvaserso if i try and install the new ubuntu it will automaticly run in 64 bit mode on my cpu, i have never tried linux as installed, only on live cd18:01
grimsSlart, Took about 5 minutes on the live CD and I was using firefox -- but normally if I let it just sit it will lockup on the HD after about 20 minutes to an hour.18:01
RoAkSoAxkvaser, yes... if you install the amd64 version18:02
xjkxwhat's new on the new ubuntu that is coming ?18:02
korothoreauputic: both drives have fat32, one shows correct filenames, the other does not18:02
korothoreauputic: so that doesn't make sense18:02
kvaserbut i have intel cpu18:02
RoAkSoAxxjkx, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc18:02
RoAkSoAxkvaser, intel core 2 duo?18:03
kvaseryes18:03
thoreauputickoro: both viewd from linux?18:03
Pici!hardy18:03
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!18:03
Speedynews just in, ubuntu will no longer support intel in the next release18:03
thoreauputic*viewed18:03
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RoAkSoAxkvaser, tha installer for 64bit version supports amd64, intel core 2 duo... so you wont have any prob18:03
Bidgetoh what its april 24th now?? I thought it was supposed to be released today18:03
Slartgrims: have you checked your memory?18:03
grimsSlart, yes -- using memtest86+ and it passed all tests18:04
BidgetI find it odd that they call it amd64 if it also supports intel haha... you think they'd just call it 64bit18:04
AndycasssMy wlan adapter doesnt see any nearby stations, why?18:04
Bidgetok so I was asking about the osx dock thing and someone linked me to this AWN program... if I use it, will it replace compiz and take all my nice effects away?18:04
SpeedyBidget,18:04
Slartgrims: even if you leave the memtest running for 20+ minutes?18:04
BoohbahSpeedy: do you get your news from the windows vista team?18:04
AndycasssI have enabled wlan restricted drivers (bcm4312)18:04
Speedyuse cairo-dock instead18:04
ng0nBoo. OK. I got it.. /media/hdb1    rr18:04
Bidgetoh?18:04
eedgeHow can I have vnc working before login? normal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.18:04
grimsSlart, yes -- I left it on for 5 hours haha18:04
grimsSlart, did not know that it kept retesting18:04
kvaserits not that i consider it to be that of a problem, its only that it would be nice to get some use of the full power of my cpu instead of just using it as if it was a 32 bit cpu ;-)18:04
SpeedyBidget,  look at the cairo-dock if you want osx style docking, personally i got annoyed with it after an hour18:04
Speedydont get why mac fags like the dock18:04
thoreauputicAndycasss: have you read the bcm43xx wiki help?18:05
Slartgrims: hang on.. I'll be right back18:05
grimsSlart, okay.18:05
robfSpeedy: come on man...18:05
korothoreauputic: yes18:05
thoreauputicSpeedy: watch the insults, pal18:05
Bidgetwell Im just getting a dock because my gf owns a mac and I think she'd be able to use my computer easier if there was one...18:05
robfSpeedy: watch your words..18:05
Speedythoreauputic, i didnt insult anyone18:05
Bidgetyou just said "mac fag"18:05
Speedypoint?18:05
DJonesxjkx: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc#head-1265c643d5763372826b64cae74ee8fe10634f1f18:05
thoreauputicSpeedy: I don;t think "fags" is acceptable18:05
Bidgetwhat exactly is that implying if it's not an insult?18:05
RoAkSoAxkvaser, install the 64bit version then... it supports amd64 and EMT6418:05
Speedyah right, the word fag isnt allowed??? is that a little harsh especially when your making your own assumptions about what it means?18:06
kvaserthanks for the help18:06
grims=\18:06
grimsefight!18:06
robfspeedy either assumption finds a party to be insulted if you insist18:06
thoreauputicSpeedy: I won't argue - if you argue about it you will be quietly removed18:06
quittthey18:06
Pici!etiquette > Speedy (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:06
quitttis the new Ubuntu released?18:06
Bidgetso speedy what exactly were you meaning when you said fag then?18:06
PiciBidget: Drop it.18:06
robfSpeedy: it's not a hard concept seriously...18:06
robfBidget: people who smoke while using macs...18:07
PhoopHello. When booting the RC of 8.04 it hangs while loading the Hardware Abstraction Layer hald. It is the same thing I had with Gutsy. Do I have some shitty hardware in my machine or..?18:07
Bidgetwell isn't that clever...18:07
robfapple branded cigs...18:07
robf*shrug*18:07
PiciPhoop: Watch the language, Hardy support in #ubuntu+118:07
PhoopAaaah18:07
thoreauputicrobf: drop it please18:07
Speedymacfag >  someone that likes and uses mac because they see it as a fashion statement rather than a tool18:07
Shadowpillaranyone here know of any good VOIP brokers?18:07
Slartgrims: memtest just keeps running.. over and over and over again..18:07
PhoopThanks, only read the first pieace of the topic Pici :)18:07
BidgetI think you're confusing the term mac fag with mac user18:08
robfthoreauputic: >:|18:08
Bidgetbut whatever18:08
BidgetI give up18:08
grimsSlart, yes -- i figured it out haha18:08
LittleKillerOk18:08
Slartgrims: is this some kind of "weird computer" in some way? laptop? nuclear computer from old soviet?18:08
xjkxDJones, thanks18:08
grimsSlart, nuclear from USSR18:08
thoreauputic!tell Speedy about etiquette18:08
LittleKillerI got it to where now i want to use a different folder for the local server say my /home/alabamahit/Projects folder...who do i go about making apache user that folder?18:08
Bidgetanyway to my original question, will AWN replace compiz? It says that it is a window manager18:08
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Bidgetor should I just try out this cairo dock18:09
xanax`in console, how can I know which version of kubuntu I am running ?18:09
Boohbahgrims: perhaps the ubuntu kernel is not compiled with SYSRQ support18:09
grimsSlart, nah its a normal computer -- AMD 2800+, 512mb ddr1, onboard everything18:09
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grimsBoohbah, how would I change that?18:09
Boohbahi don't know where to get the .config of the ubuntu kernel though, to find out...18:09
Boohbahgrims: compile your own kernel18:09
grimsBoohbah, Ok18:09
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:09
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
grims!compile kernel18:10
FloodBot2Speedy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
SpeedyI was only giving you the definition... faggots.18:10
grimssomeone kb him18:10
Slartgrims: hmm.. odd.. it's hard to troubleshoot when there's no error messages18:10
Bidgetyeah I was gonna suggest that18:10
grimsSlart -- indeed. haha18:10
grimsSlart, it happens on the live cd too though does that make a difference?18:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:10
Slartgrims: 90% of these, "it just crashes after a while", has something to do with overheating.18:10
alteregoahello mr. shuttleworth, i got a question, to put ubuntu to some wash machines?18:10
BoohbahSlart, grims: i guess sysrq happens at such a low level in the kernel that it isn't able to log it... after it's already oopsed18:10
markfsudo apt-get moo18:11
Boohbahgrims: but did you get any info about why the kernel failed from dmesg?18:11
grimsSlart, is there any app I can run to monitor CPU temp to watch it before it crashes?18:11
danandBoohbah - /boot/config-$(uname -r)18:11
grimsBoohbah, found nothing18:11
grimsBoohbah, http://pastebin.com/m1b965cf818:11
totoriousbonjour je cherche un utilitaire comme logmein qui fonctionne sur linux18:11
Pici!fr | totorious18:11
ubotutotorious: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:11
Jahromeo!grub18:11
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto18:11
totoriousquelqu'un peut m'aider??18:11
grimsbonjour, parlez vouz anglais?18:11
Boohbahgrims: there you go, 'grep SYSRQ /boot/config-$(uname -r)18:11
Slartalgul: I have no idea what you just said to me in private.. I don't speak whatever language that was18:11
RoAkSoAxgrims, install sudo apt-get install lm-sensors18:11
alteregoaparlez vouls bananarama?18:11
SunRayCafeI've added synergy to my session to autorun the program when the user logs in. But, I need it to run using sudo. Is that possible?18:12
Pici!en18:12
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat18:12
Slart!fr | totorious18:12
ubotutotorious: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.18:12
markf!windows18:12
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents18:12
Kohelethgrims: try the cpu manufacturer, they release programs like that18:12
alteregoaheh18:12
Slartgrims: sure.. there are lots of little applets for doing that.. probably even some console based stuff.. lm_sensors or something like that18:12
grimsBoohbah, that printed: CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y18:12
Boohbahgrims: sudo apt-get install conky18:13
alteregoasomeone tried to update the kernel to 2.6.25?18:13
Boohbahgrims: that's an ice system monitor, it will show you temperature18:13
Boohbah*nice18:13
danandmarkf - mooooo!18:13
grimsRoAkSoAx, thank you18:13
quittthow many hours do we have till the next Ubuntu?18:13
iRelinquish0?18:13
alteregoayeah temperature18:13
briansvgsnetworkmanager doesn't seem to be autoconnecting to networks like it did in previous versions of ubuntu. is this a bug (sometimes it autoconnects, but often you have to go in and connect to the network using the nm menu (click on icon-->click on wifi network)18:13
alteregoawhy?18:13
Kohelethyou can have the rc now18:13
BidgetI was linked to http://wiki.awn-project.org/ but I can't actually find a download link and I can't find it in the repository... anyone?18:13
grimsBoohbah, do you suggest lm_sensors or conky18:13
RoAkSoAxgrims, after install do: sensors-detect and then YES to ALL18:14
alteregoatell torwalds to put the lm-sensors into the kernel18:14
iRelinquishbidget, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator18:14
Boohbahgrims: i think conky uses lm_sensors for its backend... it depends if you want a gui or not18:14
Bidgetoh ok hahaha I was looking for the acronym18:14
Bidgetduhhh18:14
Boohbahalteregoa: why?18:14
Slartgrims: start with lm_sensors.. conky is just pretty colors and bling bling =)18:15
DJonesBidget: You need to enable your Backports repository first, then use the sudo apt-get install command18:15
Bidgetok quick question, lets say I use the command line to install something with sudo apt-get install, does it automatically install the dependencies like if I use the gui?18:15
Bidgetbackports.... k18:15
BoohbahBidget: yes18:15
RoAkSoAxgrims, follow this: http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php18:15
Bidgetok cool18:15
SunRayCafeBidget, it's going to determine dependencies and ask you to approve installing them18:15
grimsRoAkSoAx, Slart, Boohbah: thank you!18:15
Bidgetgotcha18:15
grimsSlart, after configuring lm_sensors, what do I do now?18:16
Bidgetso about the backports repository is that included in universe or multiverse or whatever?18:16
DJones!backports | Bidget18:16
ubotuBidget: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging18:16
grims!lm_sensors18:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lm_sensors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:16
penanyone know the most complete icon set ever in ubuntu?18:16
pen most consistent18:16
erUSUL!sensors18:16
ubotuYou might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto18:16
BoohbahBidget: it's a separate repo called backports18:16
RoAkSoAxgrims, follow check this out, all the things you should do after are here ... http://www.techthrob.com/tech/linuxsensors.php18:16
yggworkhello, i have what i think is a data corruption problem. ihave fscked and its all clean... http://pastebin.com/m4ced4ee918:16
BidgetI see18:16
alteregoameowbuntu, the catOS18:16
grimsThanks18:16
Slartgrims: I think there's a console command to get the temperatures18:16
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alteregoaPetBuntu, the OS for Zoophiles18:16
Slart!info sensors18:17
jack__bye18:17
Bidgetah just gotta add a line to a sources.list I see18:17
Bidgetthanks18:17
ubotuPackage sensors does not exist in gutsy18:17
Picialteregoa: Do you have a support question?18:17
alteregoayeah18:17
Pici!offtopic | alteregoa18:17
ubotualteregoa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:17
j2daosh_anyone know of a room where i can get info on shrinking home movies from 100 megs down to like 5?18:17
alteregoai tried to ask something about the Kernel in hardy18:17
Kohelethis it me or does kde4 look naff!18:17
Boohbahyggwork: user eagle is in the wheel group?18:17
Slartgrims: try running "sensors" in a terminal.. I think it's included in lm_sensors18:17
BidgetI like how someone asks a question and nobody answers and as soon as he says one thing offtopic 10 people jump on him18:17
Bidget=\18:17
yggworkboohbah yes18:17
Picialteregoa: Hardy support is in #ubuntu+1 not in #ubuntu18:17
alteregoai need 2.6.2518:17
Bidgetalteregoa, hardy support is #ubuntu+118:17
briansvgsthe bluetooth on my dell vostro 1400 still isn't working (didn't work in gutsy either). it is the dell 355. I have heard that this can be fixed by installing xp, but I really don't want to install it. is there another way?18:17
yggworkboohbah how do i check ?18:18
alteregoapici, until tomorrow?18:18
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Picialteregoa: Until tomorrow, correct.18:18
grimsSlart, I just ran it -- its at:              +28°C18:18
alteregoaok then i wait another 20 hours18:18
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grimsSlart, is there a way to have it monitor actively?18:19
splobydoes anyone know how to set dual-head on ati driver?18:19
BazooI'm having trouble getting rsync working with rssh - did anyone get it working in here?18:19
Boohbah!smartmontools18:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartmontools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:19
Bazoosftp and scp are working just fine, it's just the rsync18:19
Slartgrims: try running "watch sensors".. it will refresh every 2 secs by default18:19
Boohbahyggwork: smartmontools18:19
alteregoathe sucessor of hardy? laurel?18:19
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Boohbahyggwork: hd diagnostic tools18:19
Bidgetso.... how do I add the line "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to the end of my sources.list file??18:19
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Bidgetif I click on it it just opens up the window, its not a text file18:20
Boohbahalteregoa: i'm going for 'Inconsiderate Ibis'18:20
Bidgetwait, never mind, Im retarded18:20
grimsSlart, Ok, I am watching -- what is a "crashable" temp for the cpu?18:20
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pir80/90 degrees18:20
pircelcuis18:20
Boohbahgrims: above 70C i'd say18:20
Slartgrims: btw.. that watch command works with almost everything console based.. you could run "watch ls" to get a file listing every 2 secs.. if you want that =)18:20
brosenIDENTIFY Lythinia18:20
Slartgrims: 70-ish..Celsius or so18:20
grimsits at a steady 27-30C18:21
Boohbahbrosen: nice, now everyone knows your password!18:21
splobyPlease.... i really try every thing18:21
Picibrosen: Please change your nickserv password18:21
brosenBoobsh: Nah, It's the wrong one. I can never remember it ;-)18:21
Slartgrims: ok.. sounds like we can rule out temperature then..18:21
Kohelethhehe18:22
grimsSlart: :\18:22
Boohbahsploby: i don't use ATi but you may have better results with newer drivers installed through envyng. 'sudo apt-get install envyng'18:22
Kohelethbrosen: whod ya bank with mayey18:22
Teo-i have changed the terminal icon.. how can i restore it to its default ?18:23
Raff7!peak18:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about peak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:23
goamindhi guys18:23
Raff7oh lol there is no peak here18:23
goamindi am using ubuntu for 3 years18:23
Baby_Shambl3s'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other apps like that available to me?18:23
Bidgetso I enabled the backports repository, but when i tried sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator it told me it couldn't find the package18:23
goamindbut never cam to this problem18:23
goamindI want to buy a dell laptop18:23
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goamindbut it is designed for vista18:23
Seveasgoamind, which model?18:23
goamindand I do not want to buy it18:23
goamindand then find out that I cant install ubuntu on it18:23
splobyboohbah:  couldn't find package18:23
Pici!offtopic18:23
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!18:23
goamind1720 lets say18:23
Boohbahgoamind: better check for linux hardware support then...18:24
Seveasgoamind, dell sometimes sells without OS, but it's not cheaper. Better buy one with ubuntu preinstalled :)18:24
goamindi dont find one18:24
goamindin Romania18:24
goamindall are with vista18:24
Bidgetyou can buy a dell laptop with ubuntu pre-installed?18:24
brosenKoheleth: ?18:24
goamindcant I just install ubuntu over it?18:24
goamindyes u can bidget18:24
Bidgetoh what18:24
goamindbut from dell themselves18:24
Slartgrims: is there some way you can make it crash? try running fsck to start with.. then try somethnig cpu intensive.. something that plays with graphics.. etc18:24
FloodBot2goamind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:24
goamindme personally I dont find in romania18:24
Boohbahsploby: enable the universe repo. !universe18:24
Boohbah!universe | sploby18:25
ubotusploby: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:25
BidgetI guess you'll have to install it yourself then18:25
Bidgetso I enabled the backports repository, but when i tried sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator it told me it couldn't find the package18:25
Slartgrims: just to try to isolate what is going wrong18:25
goamindbut can i?18:25
grimsSlart, just run fsck from terminal and see if it does it?18:25
RajecHI I need to run on server Tomcat 6 (or if this isn't possible some other java web application server ) and18:25
goamindwill it find all those drivers?18:25
Slartgrims: sure..18:25
Baby_Shambl3s'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other apps like that available to me?18:25
goamindmany tryed to install xp and couldnt for example18:25
BoohbahBidget: did you make sure to update after adding the repo?18:25
Bidgetgoamind, I'm not really an expert or anything you'd have to ask someone else, but I dont really see why you wouldn't be able to install ubuntu on it18:25
BidgetBoohbah, update... ah18:25
BidgetBoohbah, when you said refresh I just hit f5 lol18:26
goamindbecause of all the drivers cooked for vista18:26
goamindand maybe only for vista18:26
DJonesBidget: sudo apt-get update first18:26
Slartgrims: there are special software that does these things.. burn-in-tests.. but fsck on a drive should work18:26
BoohbahBidget: there will probably be hardware issues with the dell laptop18:26
Bidgetah18:26
grimsWARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause18:26
grimsSEVERE filesystem damage.18:26
Bidgetthats too bad18:26
Boohbahgoamind: so you will have to research every piece of hardware...18:26
Slartgrims: do not run fsck on your root drive!!18:26
grimsOhhhhhhhhh18:26
grimsPhew18:26
Bidgetcause dell laptops are pretty cheap for the amount of hardware that you get18:26
clarjon1Hi there.18:26
grimsCrisis averted18:26
Slartgrims: do it on some kind of empty usb drive first.. or create a partition to play with, if you've got the space18:26
splobyubotu: i can see that my video card is a restrict drive, but when i enable the drive it ask for restart and when i do ubuntu can't load (just a black screen)18:27
CarlFKfirefox page says "you need flash 9" - what package do I install ?18:27
clarjon1Fresh install of lynx web browser insists on opening google homepage in Abiword, anyone know why, and/or how to fix?18:27
Boohbahgrims: why are you fscking?18:27
Bidgetsploby, what card do you have and what version of ubuntu?18:27
thoreauputic!flash18:27
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:27
grimsBoohbah, trying to do something intensive to see if it will crash18:27
Baby_Shambl3s'ello just wondering since I cant use compiz I wont be able to use AWN (Avant dock) is there any other docking stations that i could use?18:27
Bidgetsploby, I had to get a program called envy to install my video drivers18:27
SlartBoohbah: just trying to provoke a crash from his computer18:27
CarlFKthoreauputic: thanks18:27
_3mendodoes any one had a problem with finger print (Uspash) ??18:28
Pici!envy | Bidget sploby18:28
ubotuBidget sploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:28
Boohbahgrims: my guess is your kernel crash is probably cause by some binary driver, like graphics or wireless... do you use any of those binary drivers?18:28
thoreauputic!info flashplugin-nonfree18:28
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.124.0ubuntu1~gutsy1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)18:28
splobybut "sudo" can't find the package18:28
grimsBoohbah, no wireless -- but I have onboard graphics18:28
CarlFKthoreauputic: even better18:28
thoreauputicCarlFK: :)18:28
Bidgetwell sudo is actually just a command that gives you administrator privileges18:28
Boohbahenvyng | sploby18:28
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clarjon1sploby: sudo apt-cache search <package name>18:28
Boohbah!envyng | sploby18:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about envyng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:29
noodlesgcdoes anyone know if the intel 965 will be unblacklisted in Hardy?18:29
thoreauputicsudo is not needed for apt-cache search, by the way18:29
Boohbah!envy | sploby18:29
ubotusploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:29
* Boohbah fails ubotu18:29
Boohbahgrims: ati or nvidia binary drivers?18:29
grimsBoohbah, no idea -- pretty sure nvidia, how would I check from term?18:30
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Boohbahgrims: lsmod |grep nvidia18:30
thoreauputic!nvidia18:30
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:30
clarjon1Any ideas?18:30
splobyno nothing18:30
goamindI am totally confused18:30
grimsBoohbah, that returned nothing18:30
goamindis this a general thing for laptops?18:30
Teo-i have changed the terminal icon.. how can i restore it to its default ?18:30
Boohbahlspci | grep VGA18:31
grimsAti returned: cpufreq_conservative     8072  018:31
Boohbahgrims:  ^18:31
grims01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)18:31
Picigoamind: Its a general thing for all computers18:31
rwycuffgoamind:waht issue you having withlaptop18:31
Boohbahgoamind: laptops especially because they use more specialized hardware..18:31
clarjon1Any ideas why the lynx text web browser wants to open google.com in AbiWord?18:31
Baby_Shambl3sso im guessing i cant use docking apps like AWN without conky or beryl... but their must be other apps that do the same but dont rely on conky/beryl, can someone suggets soemthing :(?18:31
Siftin-Comwhen I install some rpms using yum, do they actually get downloaded at some place on my local machine, I guess yes, if yes, than where18:31
splobyis there other way besides re-writing the xorg.conf?18:31
goamind<rwycuff>18:31
thoreauputicclarjon1: that's a weird one...18:32
goamind<rwycuff> I want to buy a dell with vista pre-installed18:32
clarjon1I know18:32
goamindand I am not sure I can properly install ubuntu after18:32
GuySofthey all, a question - when 8.04 will be out. would the upgrade packages be out too? will i be able to apt-get upgrade?18:32
PiciBaby_Shambl3s: Conky has nothing to do with awn or beryl or compositing.18:32
BoohbahBaby_Shambl3s: superkaramba if you like kde :)18:32
goamindwithout driver problems18:32
BobSappGuys i deleted my /tmp directory can you show me the access rights i should set on it please?18:32
biczgoamind: i did it18:32
BobSappalso user/group18:32
clarjon1The package was installed not long ago, and, of course, my first try was lynx google.com...18:32
rwycuffgoamind:VIsta BAd idea to begin with just buy it with ubuntu installed18:32
balgarathAny web developers in here? Was wondering what you all use to see what a design looks like in IE?18:32
goamindI am all ears18:32
thoreauputicclarjon1: look in /etc/mailcap - I think lynx is confused and using something for html that it shouldn't18:32
biczcompaq 6720s18:32
goamindi cant buy it18:32
clarjon1Want me to get a screenshot of what happens?18:32
goamindwith ubuntu18:32
BobSappls -lg / | grep tmp18:33
goamindout of the question18:33
thoreauputicclarjon1: I expect lynx uses /etc/mailcap for mime associations18:33
* Siftin-Com question: when I install some rpms using yum, do they actually get downloaded at some place on my local machine, I guess yes, if yes, than where18:33
rwycuffgoamind:why not??18:33
eeeandrewanyone help me install a .tar.bz2 file?18:33
goamindbecause i am in romania18:33
clarjon1ok.18:33
grimsBoohbah, do you think it is the driver?18:33
goamindand I need to buy it from a store18:33
PiciSiftin-Com: Ubuntu does not use yum or rpms for package management18:33
goamindand i dont think i can find what i want and also with ubuntu18:33
clarjon1i'll still grab the screenshot, however :P18:33
Pici!enter18:33
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!18:33
thoreauputicclarjon1: but why it should make an exception for rendering google I have no idea :)18:33
splobyi'm on Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy, my video card is ATI radeon x1650proAGP18:34
rwycuffgoamind:buy apple MBP then you can put every OS on there and have nice shinny laptop18:34
Boohbahgrims: an ATi driver? that could be the trouble.18:34
clarjon1I haven't dared to try other sites, to be honest, as I don't want to clog up the ssh connection I'm on :P18:34
grimsBoohbah, no Ati -- it was VGA18:34
grims01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01)18:34
Boohbahoh, VIA S318:34
clarjon1but, brb, gonna get a screenshot of it.18:34
goamindu say on an apple I can have ubuntu??18:34
ng0nBoo: Thanks man. Saved my butt !!18:34
BobSappCAN SOMEONE RUN THIS COMMAND AND PM ME THE RESULT PLEASE?  ls -lh / | grep tmp18:34
Picigoamind: Take a look here: http://www.linux-laptop.net/  I used this site to help me figure out what laptop to buy when I was looking for one.18:34
Pici!caps | BobSapp18:34
ubotuBobSapp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.18:34
thoreauputicclarjon1: heh A browser that tries to send html to a helper app - very strange :)18:35
Boohbahgrims: i believe that card is well supported by the kernel... with an open source driver18:35
BobSapp-__________-18:35
goamindtks pici18:35
BidgetI've been reading around on the forums and I see a lot of threads like "problem after upgrading to 7.xx, it worked before and now it doesn't" when I upgrade to 8.04 tomorrow or friday, will I probably be in a similar situation? I would hate to think that after finally getting my computer the way I want it I'd have to do it all over again... :(18:35
Boohbahgrims: so now i am stumped..18:35
eedgeHow can I have vnc working before login? normal vnc remote desktop from preferences works great... but if I reboot, I lose access until I login manually.18:35
goamindso its true that not any laptop is ubuntu friendly18:35
d4t4min3rcan anyone help me18:35
eeeandrewcan anyone tell me what argument to use with the tar command when extracting a .tar.bz2 file?18:35
kitcheBoohbah: unichrome drivers are tricky just like the ati ones are18:35
rwycuffgoamind : if you use thier boot campsoftware you can setup OSX/ubuntu/Vista partitoins an 3x boot the mac18:35
Boohbaheeeandrew: tar xjvf file.tar.bz218:35
PiciBobSapp: drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 4.0K 2008-04-23 07:41 tmp18:35
Baby_Shambl3sPici: so how come i cant use AWN, it doesnt show on my desktop and im sure i read it needs compiz but could be mistaken?18:35
sipiorBidget: wait two weeks, most of the flagrant bugs will be gone.18:35
Bidgetsipior, phew18:35
Bidgethahaha18:35
BobSappthanks Pici18:35
goamindsounds cool18:35
PiciBaby_Shambl3s: Yes, AWN requires compiz, but not conky18:36
BobSappdeleted my /tmp dir18:36
biczBaby_Shambl3s: run it in a terminal and see the output18:36
goamindso u recommend apple18:36
BidgetPici, I've just installed AWN, but I can't find it to configure or anything...18:36
splobySo is any way?18:36
rwycuffgoamind: and personally would rather support apple myself over dell18:36
goaminddidnt take this into consideration18:36
clarjon1Ooh, this time lynx gave an output...18:36
Baby_Shambl3sBoohbah: nah superkaramba is kde and im trying to stay away from widgets, messing with screenlets and gdeskltes was enough for me18:36
clarjon1screenshot, and a pastebin :P18:36
goamindhow about the drivers on it?18:36
goaminddont I also need drivers?18:36
PiciBidget: I really dont use awn, so I'm not sure how to configure it18:36
Boohbah!envy | sploby18:36
goamindhow does ubuntu work on it?18:36
ubotusploby: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »18:36
BidgetPici, ah ok np18:36
grims!unichrome18:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unichrome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:37
eeeandrewboohbah: thanks that works. for my knowledge could u give me a rough idea of what the xjvf does?18:37
rwycuffgoamind ,yes let me look around i know there is a guide for the drivers and such18:37
Boohbahsploby: 'sudo apt-get install envyng'18:37
Ace2016Hi all18:37
goamindtks!18:37
kitcheeeeandrew: it's all in man tar but with tar you do not need the j or the z anymore really18:37
Ace2016anyone here use wicd?18:37
Baby_Shambl3sPici: isnt that what i stated in my question... what other apps available like AWN are available that dont require the use of compix or beryl?18:37
oholikshi, is there an "incoming web" like incoming.debian.org for ubuntu?18:37
Ace2016I can't connect to my hidden network18:37
Boohbaheeeandrew: x - extract, j- bz2, v- verbose, f- file18:38
Baby_Shambl3sbicz: no point its a compiz thing my SiS card cant handle18:38
rwycuffgoamind, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro18:38
PiciBaby_Shambl3s: You said conky, but I guess it was a typo18:38
BoohbahBaby_Shambl3s: superkaramba18:38
PiciBoohbah: envyng is only in Hardy.18:38
BoohbahBaby_Shambl3s: and the kde 4 equivalent!18:38
BoohbahPici: i wasn't aware, thanks :)18:39
gogeta1 day left :)18:39
eeeandrewboohbah thanks again. Although I@m now having trouble with the install. I've got it extracted but when I changed into the folder and tried "make" it said no make file found18:39
rwycuffgoamind, the only  thing they got wrong there was the vid card isnt ati its nvidia in the mbp but the normal nvidia linux driver should work for it18:39
elventearHello. I am migrating a  IPSEC connection from an old OpenBSD box to Ubuntu. OpenBSD uses isakmpd for IPSEC while, it seems to me, on Linux the KAME implementation is more popular. But there is isakmpd on Linux. So I was wondering if any of you guys might have a suggestion why I should use one or the other? For now I suppose that by using isampd on Linux would allow me to transfer everything verbatim from the OpenBSD box18:39
kitcheeeeandrew: ./configure maybe?18:39
Baby_Shambl3sPici: did i? geez spelling is guetting worse by the minute, but yeah I meant AWN isnt there anything i can use that acts similar to AWN?18:39
Boohbaheeeandrew: ./configure; make; sudo make install18:40
sipiorelventear: that's a pretty good reason18:40
gogetaelventear i would assume yes18:40
Bidgethas anyone configured AWN before?18:40
Boohbaheeeandrew: what are you compiling?18:40
Bidgetsorry dumb question, can anyone help me configure AWN?18:40
thoreauputicclarjon1: URL for the screenshot? This is intriguing...18:40
Baby_Shambl3sBoohbah: no no KDE stuff for me just want to remain gnome or semi cli if i can but yeah ive seen it and its not what i'm looking for18:40
PiciBaby_Shambl3s: I think that cairo-dock does not require compiz18:40
RajecHi is possible to install on Ubuntu server 1, Tomcat 6.0 2, Postgre(there is already right?!) and cron ?18:40
splobyboohbah: E: Couldn't find package envyn18:40
eeeandrewthe ./ configure got another error says its not a tcl-dev package18:40
PiciBidget: You can try asking in #awn18:40
Bidgetoh right on18:41
Bidgetthanks again haha18:41
kitcheeeeandrew: youneed to get the tcl-dev package most likely18:41
Baby_Shambl3sPici: will check it out, is that the only one?18:41
Boohbahsploby: how about 'sudo apt-get install envy' ?18:41
thoreauputicRajec: I guess so - cron is already there, and I think you need Java for tomcat, right?18:41
eeeandrewkitche: that mean I downloaded the wrong thing?18:41
clarjon1alright18:41
Baby_Shambl3sPici: I guess all the kl apps all depends on compiz geez so one sided18:41
BoohbahRajec: yes18:41
PiciBaby_Shambl3s: I think theres one other, but I dont remember the name18:41
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clarjon1screenshot: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8508/screenshot5ef8.png  pastebin: http://clarjon1.pastebin.com/m3133a07218:42
splobyboohbah: E: Couldn't find package envy18:42
Rajecthoreauputic: I need tomcat for Java ;)18:42
Dim__Hey there, guys (and girls).  Does anyone know what the direct download link to 8.04 will be once it's released @6hrs from now?  The reason I'm asking is so I can instruct my DL manager to download at a certain time, so when I step in the office tomorrow I'll have the .iso on my desktop.  Thanks.18:42
kitcheeeeandrew: no you need to install the tcl-dev package that is in the repo most likely18:42
Baby_Shambl3sPici: np at least I gt something to try out18:42
Boohbahsploby: what release of ubuntu are you using?18:42
thoreauputicRajec: whatever :)18:42
splobyboohbah: Gutsy 7.1018:42
gogetaeeeandrew http://www.ipsec-howto.org/x496.html18:42
eeeandrewkitche: so do sudo apt-get install tcl-dev?18:42
RajecOK thanks guys. I would like to ask if anybody has experience making backup Postgree database on external disk  by cron18:43
gauchoWhat is the best program to edit images in ubuntu? How can I install it?18:43
gogeta:)18:43
clarjon1gaucho: I like the gimp18:43
kitcheeeeandrew: I do not know the name of the package have to look for the correct name18:43
sipiorDim__: you could probably infer the new download link from the one for Gutsy.18:43
Boohbahsploby: enable the universe repository in /etc/apt/sources.list18:43
Boohbah!universe | sploby18:43
ubotusploby: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:43
seamus7Dim__ better to just download now the RC and update .. once the official is released downloads are often extremely slow18:43
thoreauputicclarjon1: wow, lynx is really confused!18:43
gauchoclarjon1, thank you man! I will try it !18:43
unopDim__, you can download 8.04 now, install it and do your updates .. your system will be no different to someone downloading 8.04 tomorrow and installing it18:43
clarjon1thoreauputic: i know18:43
Boohbahsploby: after that, 'sudo apt-get update' then try to install envyng again18:43
gogetaelventear that was for you oops18:43
kaurhi18:44
elventeargogeta: Thanks18:44
thoreauputicclarjon1: did you check /etc/mailcap ? But even then, this Shouldn't Happen (tm)18:44
grimsBoohbah, any more tricks up your sleeve? ;]18:44
clarjon1thoreauputic: I know, it's definatly a Bad Thing.18:44
clarjon1Lemme see18:44
clarjon1What should i be looking for?18:44
thoreauputicclarjon1: indeed :)18:44
jagggywhere do i find proxy's that work with ubuntu?18:45
kaurI am trying to compile device:usb module for perl and get an error: A problem was encountered while attempting to compile and install your Inline C code. The command that failed was: make What can be the problem?18:45
thoreauputicclarjon1: I suspect there's a bogus entry fro text/html or similar in /etc/mailcap18:45
powertool08i have 7.04, does anyone know if i can skip gutsy and go straight to hardy or will i have to upgrade twice?18:45
clarjon1hmm...18:46
Boohbahgrims: do you get any useful information when your system locks? like a kernel oops? anything printed on the console?18:46
thoreauputicclarjon1: maybe grep for  abiword :)18:46
clarjon1reference to firefox in there...18:46
* clarjon1 is using eye-grep18:46
Sinnermancan i have two different versions of a package side by side?18:46
LinuxGuy1234powertool08: upgrade to Gusty then Hardy, it's safer18:46
Spydoninstall one in opt Sinnerman18:46
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powertool08LinuxGuy1234: ok, thanks18:46
jagggywhere do i find proxy's that work with ubuntu?18:47
gogetaLinuxGuy1234 smoking pile of runes!!!(joke)18:47
Boohbahjagggy: privoxy works18:47
grimsBoohbah, nothing at all :(18:47
SinnermanSpydon: how do i do that? say i got a .deb file from the repos, and downloaded a more recent one i want to try out without having to uninstall the previous one that i know works pretty much how i want it to?18:47
jagggyBoohbah, on ubuntu? :s18:47
clarjon1hmm...18:47
SpydonSinnerman, I actually dont know ^^18:47
thoreauputicclarjon1: what is your designated alternative for www-browser?18:47
thoreauputicclarjon1:  sudo update-alternatives www-browser18:47
thoreauputicoops18:47
FloodBot2thoreauputic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:47
thoreauputicthat should be sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser18:47
splobyboohbah: Universe was already enable18:47
grimsBoohbah, how can I view syslog/kernal log from terminal?18:48
grimsIt says command not found18:48
thoreauputichuh? How was that a flood ??18:48
clarjon1text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force_html '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; nametemplate=%s.html18:48
gogetafirefox is the one and only18:48
SpydonSinnerman, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23113018:48
* thoreauputic larts FloodBot218:48
clarjon1oops, pasted into wrong window...18:48
kitchethoreauputic: since you posted three lines in a row most likely same timestamp18:48
kitchethoreauputic: it only goes off on three lines it seems :)18:49
thoreauputickitche: pedantic bot18:49
eTiger13how can i completely remove firefox and all traces of it? removing it via synaptic leaves parts of it. firefox will not ever think it has been restarted so i cant add/remove add-ons18:49
NeoGeo64where can i find a list of games ported to linux18:49
SinnermanSpydon: thanks. let me have a look at that link of yours.18:49
gogetaeTiger13 why would you do that18:49
clarjon1What does copoiusoutput inthe mailcap file mean?18:49
gogetaNeoGeo64  http://www.happypenguin.org/18:50
clarjon1eTiger13: remvoe your .mozilla/firefox directory in your home directory18:50
thoreauputicclarjon1: it usually means to use a pager ( less for example)18:50
* Randocal just googled for how to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy and is amazed at how simple it is.18:50
* clarjon1 nods18:50
sipioreTiger13: sudo apt-get purge firefox18:50
splobyboohbah: main, universe, restriccted, multiverse is enable18:50
gogetaeTiger13 apt-get --purge remove package18:50
cgentry72has anyone used DOSBox emulator. I'm having troubles telling it what to mount.18:50
clarjon1i'll pastebin the mailcap file.18:50
sipioreTiger13: although, i suspect that will remove more than you want...18:50
thoreauputicclarjon1: for example, translating html in mail and piping it to  "less"18:50
spowersis anyone else having trouble with the binary nvidia driver in hardy after an upgrade from gutsy? i cannot get the kernel module to load.18:50
splobyboohbah: Download from: Main Server18:51
clarjon1cgentry72: You do the mounting inside the emulator...18:51
clarjon1cgentry72: It gives help inside the emulator, on how to do it.18:51
cgentry72clarjon1, right. it's not letting me mount anything18:51
eTiger13sipior, how so?18:51
clarjon1cgentry72: You do have access to what you are trying to mount?18:51
cgentry72clarjon1, i've done it before in windows but i think i have the path wrong or something18:51
thoreauputicclarjon1: what was the designation in  sudo update-alternatives --config www-browser ?18:51
cgentry72clarjon1, yes18:51
Boohbahhttp://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html18:52
sipioreTiger13: there may be dependencies on firefox. ubuntu-desktop, for example. best to leave it where it is, frankly.18:52
Boohbahsploby: try getting it directly from the site18:52
cgentry72clarjon1, if the directory is c:\oldgames isn't it mount c c:\oldgames?18:52
Boohbahsploby: choose envy legacy, download the .deb, install it18:52
clarjon1thoreauputic: Don't have sudo privs on this account18:52
NeoGeo64The connection has timed out18:52
NeoGeo64The server at www.happypenguin.org is taking too long to respond.18:52
thoreauputicclarjon1: ah18:52
thoreauputicok18:52
eTiger13sipior, not really. its all screwed up so i cant add anything to it18:53
clarjon1What file will hold that configuration, however?18:53
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thoreauputicclarjon1: run www-browser and see what starts18:53
gogetaodd site must be down atm18:53
gogetatry later18:54
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splobyboohbah: Error - Dependency is not satisfiable: python-central18:54
clarjon1hmm, man www-browser takes me to the lynx manpage....18:55
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grimsBoohbah, i think i found something in the syslog18:55
grimsBoohbah, http://pastebin.com/m3e06359018:55
Boohbahsploby: sudo apt-get install python-central18:55
thoreauputicclarjon1: something is screwed in the config on that system - complain to root :)18:55
JPSwill Hardy beta automatically upgrade to full release version tommorrow?18:55
thoreauputicclarjon1: oh, you ran man ?18:56
Pici!final > JPS (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:56
jerico2dayhey all, i've a quick question about 8.04 desktop edition coming out soon, will it support raid natively during the install? (couldn't find the answer at ubuntu.com)18:56
thoreauputicthen lynx is www-browser18:56
Boohbahgrims: ahh great! kernel oops due to null pointer dereference18:56
alteregoais there a gnome-theme to get scientologists out of my computer?18:56
Picijerico2day: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.18:56
jerico2daythanks18:56
grimsBoohbah, is that the culprit?18:56
thoreauputicalteregoa: we can all wish...18:56
susanooJPS, not automatically18:56
Boohbahgrims: defintely18:56
susanooyou type it in18:56
splobyboohbah: python-central is already the newest version18:56
Pici!offtopic > alteregoa (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:57
splobyboohbah: It is allways tricking us ^_^18:57
clarjon1thoreauputic: root doesn't really know what to do, either :P18:57
Boohbahsploby: did you get envy legacy and not envyng??18:57
Pici!guidelines > alteregoa (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)18:57
thoreauputicclarjon1: heheh - so root != $DEITY   ;p18:57
Boohbahsploby: now read here to find out what it means: http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking :-)18:57
clarjon1lol18:58
clarjon1Want me to pastebin the mailcap, to see if there's any errors in it?18:58
Rajecis there any big differences between server ubuntu and classical ubuntu? I am asking if I can study about using server ubuntu from desktop sources18:59
thoreauputicclarjon1: you can pastebin it, but I have to go so someone else will have to look18:59
clarjon1ok18:59
koroum, i have a fat32 partition which is not showing up when i go to places -> computer in gnome, why could this be and how could i add it?18:59
BoohbahRajec: the server edition lacks X and the graphical environments18:59
Jack_SparrowRajec, You could always install the server edition and add a desktop to it19:00
spowersRajec: gui tools won't apply to the server environment.. instead of update-manager, you would use apt-get and so on19:00
BoohbahRajec: and you can install a server from a desktop CD, and vice versa19:00
grimsBoohbah, so what do you think I should do (besides googling Kernel oops) ;]19:00
blue|palmhi, ive installed my ati driver but xvinfo reports that xv isnt working  (no adaptors present it says) what can I do?19:00
Boohbahgrims: try an older kernel19:01
blue|palmthe driver is fgrlx 8.3...19:01
Juanuxhello19:01
Boohbahgrims: have you always had this issue?19:01
grimsBoohbah, I just installed ubuntu 2 days ago and have had it since the installation19:01
Boohbahgrims: this link is for you:  http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHacking19:02
blue|palm!xvinfo19:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xvinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:02
blue|palm!xv19:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:02
Boohbahgrims: ok, still, try an older kernel19:02
Pici!msgthebot19:02
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.19:02
clarjon1xiv?19:02
armadill0question: I added my user to the www-data group in /etc/group.  But `groups` doesn't show me as a member of that group... whats going on?  Do I need to refresh group membership or something?  thanks19:03
blue|palmsorry19:03
BliceI just upgraded to 8.04, and I have a problem. Only my active window has a border around it. I.E, if I click on another window, it gets borders and the other window's borders dissapear. Anyone know how to fix this?19:03
PiciBlice: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.19:03
grimsBoohbah, Which kernel do you recommend I try?19:03
Boohbaharmadill0: you need to logout and login to read /etc/group19:03
eeeandrewBoohbah, kitche: thanks a lot for your help earlier. I've been learning the apt-get stuff so this ended up being a useful exercise19:03
Boohbahgrims: 2.6.22-1419:03
armadill0Boohbah: thank you!19:03
grimsBoohbah, I am using 2.6.22-14 i believe19:04
Rajecwow so no gui in server edition ?19:04
Jack_Sparrowcorrect19:04
Juanuxhola alguien puede ayudarme !19:04
BoohbahRajec: gui's waste valuable ram that could hold more database tables :)19:04
Jack_Sparrow!es > Juanux19:04
Flare183!es | Juanux19:04
ubotuJuanux: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.19:04
giesenis there any way to have gnome execute a command when the screensaver is activated?19:04
Juanuxnecesito ayuda !19:05
ubuntucool123Rajec: You can install gui by entering in terminal "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"19:05
Juanuxi need help !19:05
BoohbahRajec: really, a gui just gets in the way when managing a server19:05
BoohbahJuanux: hablas ingles?19:05
Jack_SparrowJuanux, Ask.. in english.. all on one line as complete as possible19:06
PiciJuanux: You need to ask a question in english or join #ubuntu-es19:06
Juanuxsi tambien !19:06
Juanuxok thank you19:06
grims!es | Juanux19:06
CreationistI've plugged in my mp3 player via usb and dmesg reports it has connected (as a high speed USB device), but I can't mount it.19:06
Juanuxim from argentina !19:06
ubotuJuanux: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.19:06
Juanuxchau see you !19:07
christopheri have flash installed for mozilla but i still can't play videos on youtube.com19:08
Jack_Sparrowchristopher, how did you install flash and what version of firefox and 32 or 64 bit19:08
christopherJack_Sparrow, 64 bit latest firefox, flash already installed19:09
ba5ehi I have a wierd problem with certain video - te colour layers are aligned lower giving a strage image19:09
Jack_Sparrowchristopher, HOw did you install flash19:09
Boohbahba5e: what kind of video card, which driver?19:10
sentefuse came installed on the VPS i'm using, but i couldn't get it to work, i kept getting "the device is not ready" errors (when trying to use truecrypt), so i built fuse2.7.3 from scratch. I was warned Fuse is already intalled so it it couldn't build it in Kernel mode.  Now when I try and use truecrypt I get a diff error: "Error: No loopback device available" ... how can i uninstall or roll-back my fuse build?19:10
Dusk_hi i've just installed ubunt 8.04rc..how can i have hoe and system icons on my desktop???19:10
finalbetaI'm going to buy a new server board, onboard graphics. Not sure If I wanna do an intel motherboard. I'm thinking of an asus one. But it seems to feature a XGI® Z9s onboard graphics controller. Anyone knows how supported this is?19:10
RajecBoohbah: hh :) this will be VERY VERY interesting :D19:10
korocan someone help me bring back my partition to places->computer?19:10
ba5eBoohbah: ATI x1950 Pro, driver: xserver-xorg-video-ati19:11
gribouillehi19:11
Dusk_hi i've just installed ubuntu 8.04rc..how can i have home and system icons on my desktop???19:11
koroit's a fat32 partition and it's not showing up there19:11
PiciDusk_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.19:11
finalbetaOr where would I go with this? don't wanna spend that much money and end up with another badly supported board19:11
koro(it's automounted tho because i added it to my fstab)19:11
gribouillewill hardy heron differ from the rc ?19:11
doxidHey guys, is there a way to mount a HDD into a directory allready containing files and folders without putting the new HDD "ontop" of all the files/folders.19:11
Jack_Sparrow!flash64 > christopher19:11
Boohbahba5e: so that is the open source ati driver? have you tried any of the binary ati drivers?19:11
mkultrasi have an hp dv1000 laptop and i want to send a fax with my modem i cant see any modem in my dmesg do you think its a winmodem ?19:12
Jack_Sparrowmkultras, probably19:12
Boohbahdoxid: yeah, just make a new folder and mount it there19:12
gribouilledoxid, what do you mean with "ontop" of all the files/folders ?19:12
melteri just installed 8.04, does anyone know if firefox 3.0b5 has all the security fixes from 2.0.14?19:12
ba5eBoohbah: nope, have shyed away from them because of poor compiz performance withouth XGL19:12
Jack_Sparrow!hardy19:12
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!19:12
Boohbahba5e: can't you use fglrx?19:13
doxidBoohbah, point is i whant the HDD to be mounted in a folder together with all other folders.   like /home/doxid19:13
koroplease?19:13
doxidgribouille, well say i #mount /dev/sda1 /home/doxid19:13
Boohbahmelter: you could find out in the firefox release notes on their site19:13
frawfrawFUCK!19:14
mut80rdrives must be mounted on an empty folder.19:14
doxidgribouille, my desktop and other things will be "hidden" :P19:14
melterBoohbah: ok, thanks19:14
Boohbahdoxid: hmm, i think you might want to look into LVM for that... allows more than one drive to be combined logically to appear as one19:14
Pici!language19:14
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:14
ba5eBoohbah: oops, sorry for my last post, I am using xorg-driver-fglrx19:14
gribouillewill hardy heron differ from the rc ?19:15
melterBoohbah: do you have a link?19:15
Boohbahba5e: i wish i could help more, but i've never used ati or their drivers :(19:15
doxidBoohbah, will check it out : ) thx.19:15
ba5eBoohbah: I will try the ATI one then and see what happens19:15
Boohbahmelter: http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/3.0b5/releasenotes/19:15
xanax`in consolde, how can I know if a package is installed ? like the fedora command : rpm -qa | grep packagename19:15
Eli_Hi i ran into strange bugs after upgrading to hardy today. It looks like it is PolicyKit/Dbus related. Anyone here who can help ?19:15
Boohbahgribouille: yes19:16
Picixanax`: dpkg -l packagename19:16
Jack_SparrowEli_, /join #Ubuntu+119:16
PiciEli_: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.19:16
doxidBoohbah, "root on LV should be used by advanced users only".. heh a challenge :D19:16
xanax`thanks Pici19:16
Eli_thx19:16
gribouilleBoohbah, what's the diff ?19:16
melterBoohbah: 2.0.14 was released after 3.0b5, so that doesn't really answer my question19:16
andriijasis it possible to update gutsy to hardy with apt-get yet?19:17
Piciandriijas: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.19:17
gribouilledoxid, check the --bind option19:17
Boohbahgribouille: probably just fixes, but you can find out at official release read here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/19:17
andriijasPici: thx19:17
robdHas anyone had trouble updating today? I'm stuck on "Waiting for headers"19:17
Boohbahmelter: how could an older release contain fixes from a newer release?19:17
Jack_Sparrowrobd, updating or upgrading19:17
robdJack_Sparrow: Updating19:18
robdJack_Sparrow: Just getting the latest patch lists, not all the packages19:18
Jack_Sparrowrobd, gutsy?19:18
gribouilleBoohbah, I don't see anything about the diffs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/19:18
melterBoohbah: if ubuntu applied the security fixes to it's 3.0b5 build19:18
Boohbahmelter: anyways, i believe the 2.x and 3.x code bases are being developed independently19:18
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robdJack_Sparrow: Yeah, I basically hang on security.ubuntu.com...19:18
Boohbahgribouille: no, just wait a few hours until the release19:18
gribouillewill hardy heron contain firefox 2 ?19:18
robdgribouille: Firefox 3 I believe19:19
eTiger13beta has 3 beta19:19
eTiger13and switching it back to 2 doesnt work19:19
gribouillerobd, I can contain both19:19
mrakoshello19:19
PicieTiger13: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.19:19
Jack_Sparrowrobd, I just ran update and went throguh fine19:19
robdJack_Sparrow: Hrm, maybe my internet is weird19:19
Jack_Sparrowrobd, any changes to the sourcelist19:20
robdJack_Sparrow: Nope, all default19:20
Boohbahmelter: hmm, i am poking around here for answers... http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/firefox-3.019:20
robdJack_Sparrow: Just curious, would the HardyHeron list have issues?19:20
Boohbahmelter: there is a diff from 3.019:20
Jack_Sparrowrobd, I just ran it with us repos and came up with no problems19:20
Jack_Sparrowrobd, yes19:20
mrakoshow can i burn cd if i boot from live cd ... i can eject cd but i cant burn another ... any ideas how can i do it ?19:20
mkultraslspci says i have an ac'97 modem controller can i send a fax with this you guys think ?19:21
Jack_Sparrowrobd, Which is why I asked if you were running hardy19:21
Jack_Sparrowmrakos, do you have a usb stick around..19:21
robdJack_Sparrow: I'm running Gutsy, but I was just curious if updates would kill the list19:22
mrakosJack_Sparrow: yes, but this computer hasnt boot from usb :/19:22
robdJack_Sparrow: Ahh... I've got 6000ms ping times, something is wrong19:22
Jack_Sparrowrobd, if you are running gutsy you should not have any problems with updates..19:22
Jack_Sparrowmrakos, there are lots of ways to get around your hardware issue19:23
dmsuperma1Hi alll19:24
Jack_SparrowWelcome19:24
mrakosJack_Sparrow: hmm and thats right way is wich?19:24
gribouilleare there any problems installing the rc ?19:25
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blackvdI just upgraded to hardy and now emerald isn't running on boot. I have to run emerald --replace from alt+f2 does anyone know how I can have it start on login?19:25
Jack_Sparrowmrakos, install your live to the hard drive, borrow a friends pc, copy the iso to the usb and burn it fgrom another os19:25
Jack_Sparrow!hardy > blackvd19:25
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blackvdthanks19:26
Jack_Sparrownp19:26
mrakosJack_Sparrow: hmm that isnt so easy way19:26
Boohbahwhat file contains the setting for the default display manager?19:27
Jack_Sparrowmrakos, Order a free cd.. it can be mailed to you...  in any case, it is not a support issue..19:27
Jack_SparrowBoohbah, xorg.conf19:27
ennethDoes anyone know a way of setting a maximum connections limit in rTorrent?19:27
BazooI got rssh working with sftp and scp, but rsync won't work. Gives me "error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(359)"19:28
BoohbahJack_Sparrow: no, that's wrong, but i did figure it out19:28
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BazooAnyone have experience with rsync and rssh?19:28
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Jack_SparrowBoohbah, in gutsy .. xorg.conf has your settings.. what is wrong.?19:28
C_KodeAnyone use bitchx?19:28
biczC_Kode: sure19:29
BoohbahJack_Sparrow: xorg.conf does not contain a setting for which display manager is started... that is controlled by system boot scripts19:29
psychNo. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released.19:29
psychstill true?19:29
Boohbahpsych: i hear it's UTC19:29
psychutc?19:30
Boohbahgmt19:30
psychBoohbah, so it will happen tomorrow?19:30
ennethYes.19:30
NukeSkyjumperhow do you tell udev to rescan devices? just created a new partition, but there's no device for it in /dev19:30
Picipsych, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party19:31
Boohbahpsych: as soon as 5 hours from now...19:31
psychoic19:31
__max_i killed firefox (it locked up) and now xmms wont play since it says something is allocating the sound driver.19:31
psychjust asked that coz i downloaded xubuntu to install19:31
Boohbahpsych: but there is no reason to wait for the official release to install19:31
__max_what would be the steps to check what is alocating it?19:32
psychso its then to wait19:32
psychand get the new one19:32
Whitorjoin #ubuntu+119:32
Whitorsry19:32
psychBoohbah, why not?19:32
Boohbahpsych: no just install it and update packages and it will be identical to the release19:32
Boohbahpsych: because you will get current packages from the repos19:32
Bidgethey can anyone give me a hand Im just editing a png in gimp and Im wanting to know how to delete something so that its transparent19:33
psychBoohbah, will i need to apt-get update?19:33
BravewolfHello all! How can I access to the menu (the upper part of the window) in Gnome using the keyboard and not the mouse?19:33
splobyboohah: Me again, just install envy and envyng, but still nothing19:33
Boohbahpsych: yes19:33
Jack_Sparrow!envy19:33
Boohbahsploby: you got envy installed?19:33
ubotuenvy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »19:33
splobyboohbah: yes19:33
kostas2505hello to everybody!19:33
Jack_SparrowWelcome19:33
Boohbahsploby: did you try to install your driver with it?19:33
splobyboohbah: yeah, and when restart just appear a black screen. and i have to cp xorg.conf to run normally19:34
kostas2505it is possible to help regarding youtube video down?19:35
gnubieBravewolf, I believe it's the alt key plus whatever character is underlined in the menu you want19:35
eedgeis there a way to login gdm from ssh?19:35
C_Kodebicz: how do you switch windows if you are in split screen?  It always complains saying it's not hidden.  Well, I know that, but I want the other window to have focus/19:35
eedgejust realised I can't remote desktop to my server after a reboot without logging it in.19:35
Boohbahsploby: cp xorg.conf? to where?19:35
bato_riohi all19:35
eedgeand I can't log in, because I can't vnc19:35
DanikarPNkostas2505: You mean the videos arn't playing for you?19:35
eedge:(19:35
biczC_Kode: u can try with irssi is more simple than bitchx19:36
Rajecbtw guus I want to install Ubuntu server On one of the particions of my disk. I have two disk one is system only and second is for dat I want to instal Ubuntu server on Data only disk. COuld I somehow delete othere data on other particions ?:)19:36
splobyboohbah: cp xorg.conf-backup to xorg.conf19:36
biczso i remember i use /j #chan and bitchx switch chan's19:36
Bravewolfgnubie: thanks! It works well. And to access to the Gnome menù (Applications, Resources, System)?19:36
kostas2505are playing ok but is possible to store in hd?19:36
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C_Kodebicz: Thats what someone else just told me.  I guess I will be looking into it.  Thanks.19:36
gnubieBravewolf, alt+f119:36
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Boohbahsploby: you have to edit xorg.conf depending on which driver you use19:37
C_Kodebicz: Thats what someone else just told me.  I guess I will be looking into it.  Thanks.19:37
DanikarPNkostas2505: There are websites that are dedicated to downloading youtube videos. Search google for Download Youtube Video. And you will find a bunch of them. Then you need to find a FLV player to play the videos. Or you can convert them using a video converter.19:37
C_KodeWhoops19:37
Bravewolfgnubie: again, thanks a lot! It works perfectly!19:37
Ergo^hey guys19:38
Ergo^i think we can talk about hardy here19:38
rwycuffErgo^:hi19:38
doxidif i'm using LVM and trying to add the / partition (hdb1) i get this error message:   "/dev/hdb1 not identified as an existing physical volum"19:38
kostas2505DanikarPN:thank you very much for your quick response!19:38
mut80rHardy:  #ubuntu+119:38
gnubieBravewolf, yw19:38
Jack_SparrowErgo^, Ubuntu+1 thanks19:38
splobyboohbah: after all envy stuff, i thought that envy was a atternative to not edit xorg19:38
jeffimperialhello everyone.. how do i get hardy?19:38
DanikarPNjeffimperial: If you go to Ubuntu.com there is a link to where you can obtain it19:39
Boohbahsploby: no, envy is a script to install drivers19:39
Fawzibquestion: anyone knows if dovecot 1.0.10 in Hardy comes with the managesieve patch? is there a way to check?19:39
kostas2505DanikarPN: one last thing because i am new in this way of communication,how am i shown in ? because i think i am shown as :#ubuntu-gr on irc.ubuntu.com19:40
splobyboohbah: now i have to edit xorg.conf, do you have a link HowTo19:40
Boohbah!xorg19:40
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto19:40
jeffimperialDanika: yeah.. i meant final release...19:40
Boohbah!xorg.conf19:40
agibby5i'm having a great deal of issues in hardy.  when i launch firefox, and press the control key, it crashes, when i press any key in a new terminal it crashes... any ideas/19:40
jeffimperialDanika: is it available yet?19:40
peppe40ciao19:40
agibby5also, my shift, windows, and contrl keys dont work as expected19:40
lazarus__were do i get themes for mandreva19:40
DanikarPNkostas2505: Sorry not sure what your question is. I just looking at your nick(kostas2505)19:41
Boohbahagibby5: do you see any useful error messages running firefox from a terminal?19:41
agibby5Boohbah: when i start the terminal, and try to type the 'f', the terminal crashes....19:41
lazarus__??19:41
kostas2505ok ,ok thanks!!19:41
mikefizzhi, i just put ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop, and i have another computer that has 7.10 also, how can i transfer the settings from my computer to my laptop19:41
Jack_Sparrowagibby5, /join #Ubuntu+119:41
DanikarPNjeffimperial: It is a release canidate untill sometime tommarow when it is offically released.19:42
Jack_Sparrow!clone > DanikarPN19:42
Jack_Sparrowsorry19:42
Jack_Sparrow!clone > mikefizz19:42
lazarus__were do i get themes for mandrevia19:42
technow__where is grub located19:42
Jack_Sparrow!themes19:42
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy19:42
DanikarPNJack_Sparrow: I was like, ok thanks?19:42
Jack_Sparrow:)19:42
jeffimperialDanika: a few hours more of waiting, i guess.. i'm in the Ph so i mistook timezone factors.. sorry19:43
eedgehow would I install VNC so that it works with GDM from term?19:43
sculeworkis there a way of adjusting how wide an area the scroll function on a touch-pad covers?19:43
sculeworkits a synaptics19:43
DanikarPNjeffimperial: yeah I am not sure if it is released at a specific time, so within the next 24 hours or so probably.19:43
Jack_Sparrow!touchpad19:43
agibby5Jack_Sparrow: joined, thanks19:43
ubotuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad19:43
Jack_Sparrownp19:44
peppe40#15 loggia01119:44
sculeworkJack_Sparrow: thanks, is it doable?19:44
Jack_Sparrowsculework, Honestly dont kow.19:44
FawzibAnyone knows if dovecot 1.0.10 in Hardy comes with the managesieve patch? Is there a way to check?19:44
Jack_SparrowFawzib, /join #Ubuntu+119:44
Robert125can i update ubuntu with the desktop (not alternate) CD?19:44
Jack_SparrowRobert125, no19:45
sculeworkJack_Sparrow: OK, I just get that annoying unwanted cube spin when using it a little too often :)19:45
cgentry72i'm trying to run frostwire but everytime i click on the icon nothing happens and I have java installed19:45
Fawzibok, thanks19:45
Jack_Sparrowcgentry72, try running from a terminal and looking for an error message19:45
^root^is ubuntu gonna release at GMT?19:46
^root^coz its already 12 here... :(19:46
Jack_Sparrow^root^, no time has been determined19:46
cgentry72Jack_Sparrow, sorry what command would that be19:46
vicentecarroHi19:46
vicentecarroin 8.04, where is the .trash folder?19:46
Jack_Sparrowcgentry72, open a terminal and type frostwire19:46
^root^Jack_Sparrow: but i can find download link for 8.04 :(19:46
jesus_BARÇA VS MANCHESTER19:47
Jack_Sparrow!hardy19:47
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!19:47
anirudhbsgi used the live cd but it did not work properly then i used the alternate cd through which i could install ubuntu but again the same problem -the system goes into the hang state19:47
cgentry72Jack_Sparrow, thinks it's using the wrong version of java19:47
anirudhbsgcan any one help19:47
freezeywhats a good frontend web client for ftp..19:47
blivoriIs there a ctrl + alt + delete shortcut for ubuntu?19:47
cgentry72Jack_Sparrow, i'm using 1.6 as in the repos19:47
blivoriI can't close this window/application19:47
Jack_Sparrowanirudhbsg, run live cd... At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"19:48
sileniblivori, i think there is a kill command19:48
SkinnYPuppblivori: System monitor in the system menu19:48
HymnToLifeblivori: killall <name of app>19:48
Jack_Sparrowcgentry72, what version of frostwire are you using19:48
blivoriHymnToLife: isn't there a hotkey or something?19:48
sileniJack_Sparrow, doesnt stopping acpi cause problems like overheating19:48
bitraiserblivori, CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to restart X window19:49
cgentry72Jack_Sparrow, 4.13.519:49
balgarathAny web developers in here? Was wondering what you all use to see what a design looks like in IE?19:49
anirudhbsgis it because of some gui  problem19:49
Jack_Sparrowsileni, It hasnt for me... on several installs..  if that is what is hanging the system it wont work anyway19:49
bitraiserbalgarath, google for  IES4Linux19:49
sileniis ubuntu i386 same as i686?19:49
DisgruntldtoteWhat is the possibility of someone helping me with my Ubuntu/webcam issue?19:49
silenilike is there ubuntu i686 ?19:49
Jack_Sparrowcgentry72, where did you get it.. not from the repos.. so I suggest you go there and read their faq.19:50
Jack_Sparrow!webcam19:50
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras19:50
balgarathbitraiser, thanks :)19:50
cgentry72Jack_Sparrow, no it's not in the repos nor is limewire :(19:50
DisgruntldtoteI have been there19:50
blivoribitraiser: i dont wantt orestart xwindow19:50
Jack_Sparrow!frostwire19:50
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire19:50
DisgruntldtoteMy camera IS working, but everything has a blue hue to it19:50
SkinnYPuppblivori: system, administration, system monitor is what you are after19:50
Jack_Sparrowbalgarath, before using ies4linux I would ask that you /join #Winehq and see how they feel about it.19:51
blivoriSkinnYPupp: thx babe19:51
SkinnYPuppsure19:51
blivori:)19:51
SkinnYPuppthere is  a ctl+alt+del installable but I think it only launches the systemmonitor19:51
bitraiserblivori, then switch to your TTY2 for example ( CTRL + ALT + F2 ) and kill the PID of the application and switch back to your GUI via CTRL + ALT +F719:51
balgarathJack_Sparrow, how would they feel?19:51
doxidohoh : ) how do i shrink a partition that i'm currently using :P i wanna shrink down the /  (root) from 200GB to say 50 : )19:52
Jack_Sparrowbalgarath, The topic of WIne says they wont help you if you have used it19:52
DanikarPNdoxid: Use gparted19:52
DisgruntldtoteDo you have any other places I should check to try and resolve my blue hue webcam problem?19:52
doxidthx DanikarPN :) will check it out19:52
Jack_Sparrowbalgarath, they consider it on the same level we used to feel about automatix before that script was abandoned19:53
balgarathJack_Sparrow, does it mess things up with wine? Or they dislike using a linux port of a windows app when people should use wine to install the real IE?19:53
DanikarPNdoxid: Yeah it is super simple, so should be good19:53
balgarathJack_Sparrow, what did automatix do?19:53
Jack_Sparrowbalgarath, Ask them19:53
SkinnYPuppnothing you want19:53
balgarathJack_Sparrow, will do19:53
Jack_Sparrowbalgarath, automatix broke thousands of systems19:53
SkinnYPuppyep I learned the hard way19:54
doxidaah gparted :D thats a lovely tool! it's avalible for a boot-cd with only gparted and X too i'f i'm not mistaken19:54
Jack_Sparrow!gparted19:55
ubotuGParted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/19:55
doxidsaved my ass once when i needed to quickly format a disk :P19:55
arooni_hey team!  i have a ibm t61 laptop.  recently, the battery wasn't charging even when plugged in.  so i had ibm send me a new battery.  i plugged that in and the battery still isn't charging.... ideas?19:55
blivori!retarted19:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about retarted - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:55
DisgruntldtoteGuess nobody has any sugestions.19:55
diogohi19:55
Jack_Sparrowarooni_, bent pin inside the laptop or a blown charging circuit.. not uncommon19:55
sculeworkJack_Sparrow: Yay!! Ksynaptics, adjust borders, was a little tricky at first but I got it19:56
arooni_Jack_Sparrow, so you are pretty sure this is a battery problem?19:56
Jack_Sparrowcool19:56
arooni_Jack_Sparrow, i mean hardware problem19:56
diogohi speak some one ducht?19:56
Jack_Sparrowarooni_, not a battery problem.. charger or connection issue19:56
DisgruntldtoteOK, IM STILL HAVING MY WEBCAM PROBLEM, ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED19:56
Jack_Sparrowarooni_, the os should not have anything to do with the charging circuit...19:57
balgarathDisgruntldtote, lay off the caps19:57
Jack_Sparrow!caps > Disgruntldtote19:57
bitraiserarooni, easy to find out, boot into BIOS, see if your battery charges up in there, if it ain't, most definitely hardware related (whether it be a connection, PSU or any other related type of issue)19:57
Disgruntldtotegive me a break, I have been in here 10 minutes and you people have been ignoring me. I already tried polite19:57
DisgruntldtoteLaptop charging issues dont sound like an Ubuntu problem to me19:57
Frijoliehow do remove OOo as the default .pdf viewer? I've checked "preferred applications" and can't see anything in there19:58
Jack_Sparrowarooni_, your battery should charge without the laptop even turned on or running19:58
z0dhello19:58
Dusk_Boohbah: it restarted again now :(19:58
Frijolieeverytime I try to open a .pdf file OOo tries to view it and can't...I want to set "Document Viewer" as the default .pdf viewer19:58
balgarathDisgruntldtote, Nobody in here is getting paid to help anyone, your best bet is to give them a break19:58
bitraiserbalgarath, amen19:58
cabrioleurFrijolie, right click on pdf file, properties, and open with.19:58
DisgruntldtoteI understand this, but it is just polite to answer someone when they ask a question. If you dont know, say "Sorry, I do not know"19:59
lixomancemHello, I'm doing some tests with "tc" so I can use it later to implement QoS. My most basic test is basically limiting any and all access to 15kB/s. This is being done on a computer that is correctly configure as a gateway with NAT. The problem is, I've run these commands: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but nothing is happening, the download speeds are still exceeding the imposed limit....19:59
lixomancem...Am I forgetting something?19:59
Frijoliecabrioleur: I'm aware of that one, as I have to do that everytime. Is there a way to make it permanent?19:59
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DisgruntldtoteOr perhaps, "Try here, this may be of some help"19:59
FlannelDisgruntldtote: do you really want 1400 people telling you they don't know?19:59
z0ddo we know the exact time when Hardy will come out?19:59
Jack_SparrowDisgruntldtote, 1439 people do not need to tell you they do not know.19:59
* Ruairidh sighs19:59
DisgruntldtoteNo, just 119:59
cabrioleurFrijolie, it should be permanent if you do it in properties.19:59
Flannelz0d: no.19:59
susanooJack_Sparrow ?19:59
bitraiserDisgruntldtote, nope, you ask a question, if anyone knows the answer you're seeking, they will contact you or address their message at you, otherwise you've just have to keep trying while probably utilizing your searching powers with google19:59
z0dFlannel: Ok, thanks19:59
Frijoliecabrioleur: "properties"?19:59
arcskyWhen does ubuntu version coming ?19:59
susanoodo you use xchat or M.irc ?19:59
cabrioleurFrijolie, yes, the last option in the menu.20:00
Piciarcsky, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party20:00
rwycuffarcsky:when its out tomorrwo sometime20:00
bitraiserarcsky, when it's ready (TM)20:00
adi112358sorry if this may be a wrong question... what do you call the premature corn seeds that are made into corn flakes?20:00
Flannelarcsky: sometime within the next 40 hours or so.20:00
BoohbahDusk_: is there anything useful from 'dmesg' ?20:00
Flanneladi112358: #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place for that20:00
Jack_Sparrowadi112358, offtopic20:00
Boohbahadi112358: what?20:00
Frijoliecabrioleur: ah, I noticed what you meant as soon as I typed the last question.20:00
Frijoliecabrioleur: thanks, that's what I was looking for!20:00
DisgruntldtoteOk then, does anyone know how to remove all webcam drivers and mods so that I can make sure mine is using the one I want it to use?20:00
Frijoliecabrioleur: silly me, I didn't think to look there...20:01
SkinnYPupp24th ?20:01
bitraiserDisgruntldtote, what manufacturer/model of webcam?20:01
PiciSkinnYPupp: tomorrow depending on your timezone20:01
SkinnYPuppwrong channel sorry20:01
SkinnYPupp thx20:01
DisgruntldtoteLogitech Quickcam Communicate STX20:01
pjoulDisgruntldtote: does dmesg say something when you plug your webcamera in?20:02
DisgruntldtoteThanks for your help, I appreciage20:02
d4t4min3rhey20:02
Dusk_Boohbah: http://pastebin.com/m6807addb this is the dmesg output20:02
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Disgruntldtotepjoul, Ubuntu sees it, and it will work, yet every program EXCEPT for Camorama has a blue hue to it20:02
ivzeGood day! Which time UTC Hardy Heron is going to be released?=)20:02
Piciivze, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party20:02
DisgruntldtoteIt comes up in lsusb no prob20:03
lixomancemI have run the following commands for the "tc" tool http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but they seem to be completely ignored. What gives?20:03
BoohbahDusk_: aha! see line 418 and 419 says that compiz is segfaulting20:03
DisgruntldtoteAlso im running Hardy right now20:03
Boohbahivze: anywhere from 0 to 24 hours :)20:03
pjoulDisgruntldtote: that's bad. have you got any idea how to solve it?20:03
Dusk_Boohbah: how can i get pass it?? i don't use compiz20:03
Jack_SparrowDisgruntldtote, then you should be asking in #Ubuntu+120:03
doxidDanikarPN, you can't resize / while running the OS :/20:03
BoohbahDisgruntldtote: you better join #ubuntu+1 or these people will murder you20:03
DisgruntldtoteThen to Ubuntu+1 I shall go. Thanks20:04
unenoughHi, how do I control which video driver X uses? in xorg.conf there is no "DRIVER" line for the video device20:04
unenoughhow does Xorg know which driver to use?20:04
BoohbahDusk_: turn off compiz20:04
cabrioleurunenough, it's in the "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file.20:04
Boohbahunenough: the Driver line20:04
Dusk_Boohbah: how?? i don't use compiz anyway20:04
Jack_Sparrowunenough, You must be running hardy20:04
atobHas anybody had problems with grub in hardy recently?20:05
unenoughJack_Sparrow: correct, sorry i'll go to +1 (until tomorrow : )20:05
Frijolieword to the wise: don't click on external links in IRC. lest you risk gettin' "Rick Rolled"20:05
LardarseFrijolie: that + consider using noscript20:06
Piciatob: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.20:06
Boohbah!compiz20:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion20:06
Jack_Sparrowmsg Disgruntldtote, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56361720:06
Lardarse!ubuntustudio20:06
ubotuUbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org20:06
BoohbahDusk_: your log says compiz is running20:06
FrijolieLardarse: even if they claim to be "dmsg output debugging tools"20:06
Dusk_Boohbah: ok ok i disabled it20:07
LardarseFrijolie: ouch20:07
Dusk_Boohbah: thanks a lot20:07
BoohbahLardarse: ubuntu studio? i never knew! thanks!20:07
caleb_when i upgrade to hardy heron, will my home folder stay safe?20:07
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LardarseBoohbah: i looked that up for my benefit, not yours :-P20:07
Jack_Sparrowcaleb_, yes20:08
mnemocaleb_: yes, but it might overwrite some config files20:08
SakeSo as far as security goes, is it safer to put ubuntu 6.04 in production because it's had a longer run or am I smarter to use the late release coming out tomorrow? What's the philosophy on that? doesn't apt-get update 6.04 to the latest release anyways?20:08
Frijolie"you're no stranger to love. You know the rules...and so do i..."20:08
caleb_thank you, also will i have to reinstall and configure ndiswrapper, because it's a pain in the but to do it20:08
Jack_SparrowSake, read up on updates....  I would wait for another day20:08
dtswhat's the difference between Gnome Safe mode and regular mode, I can log in with safe mode but regular does not work20:08
dtshow do i debug?20:08
cabrioleurSake, until tomorrow 6.06 is LTS, so it is still supported :-)20:09
FlannelSake: 6.06 will not automatically upgrade to anything, once 8.04 comes out, it will offer, but you won't be forced20:09
lixomancemSake: I think that tomorrow's release is a good bet, since it is a LTS that is going to be supported officially for 3 years. But yeah, wait a week or so before installing it.20:09
Kcaj[UBuntu]What is compiz.real?20:09
BoohbahSake: i don't think 6.04 is supported anymore, so i wouldn't use it20:09
Flannelcabrioleur, Sake, After tomorrow 6.06 is still LTS, and still supported for another year.20:09
SkinnYPupp6.06 is20:09
Picicabrioleur, Sake: even after tomorrow 6.06 will still be supported for quite a while20:09
Boohbahoh20:09
tannewtmechanism is used for suspend in Hardy?20:09
lixomancem1 more year, actually20:09
Picitannewt: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.20:09
stefg!lts20:09
Lardarseyeah, for another year or so20:09
FrijolieSake: Hardy 8.04 is going to be LTS20:09
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.20:09
Jack_Sparrow!hardy > tannewt20:09
lixomancemI have run the following commands for the "tc" tool http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64124/ but they seem to be completely ignored. What gives?20:09
stefg!DAPPER20:09
ubotuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.20:09
Frijolie!hardy20:10
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!20:10
tannewtJack_Sparrow: yeah, I got it, I just accidently hit this channel with the palm of my hand20:11
Kcaj[UBuntu]What is compiz.real?20:11
Jack_Sparrownp20:11
Kcaj[UBuntu]Can I remove it?20:11
Kcaj[UBuntu]It is hogging resources20:11
mmm4m5mHow to batch convert size of few photos (resize)?20:11
Kcaj[UBuntu]imagemagick20:11
PiciKcaj[UBuntu]: compiz.real is the real version that compiz (a helper script) calls20:11
Sakeso what does LTS mean anyways? That it will have to the minute updates of security fixes by the ubuntu team?20:11
Kcaj[UBuntu]What does the compiz do?20:11
PiciSake: Yep20:12
Boohbah!lts20:12
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.20:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]It seems to at up the most when I move windows around20:12
Jack_Sparrow!eyecandy20:12
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy20:12
tonyyarussoKcaj[UBuntu]: just stop using compiz - System > Prefs > Appearance > Effects > None20:12
pvh_salixomancem, you need some filtering20:12
Pici!compiz | Kcaj[UBuntu]20:12
ubotuKcaj[UBuntu]: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion20:12
Sake!lts20:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]nevermind20:12
jeffMASTERflexKcaj[UBuntu]: compiz is a window manager. it does all the pretty desktop effects20:12
Kcaj[UBuntu]having my window warble around is definitely worth the 4% cpu usag eoccasionally20:12
Sakewhat does "Supported" mean? I thought support came from the community20:12
PiciKcaj[UBuntu]: :)20:12
Jack_Sparrow!eol > Sake20:12
tonyyarussoSake: 1) You can buy support from Canonical and other vendors, 2) security updates20:13
PiciSake: Ubuntu is completely community supported, but the community also are the ones who upload the security updates and whatnot.20:13
pvh_salixomancem, as in, you've set up the queue discipline... but you haven't done any filters to send traffic to the relevant traffic class. anyway, considered using the "shaper" package?20:13
lixomancempvh_sa: but I wanted the limit to be applied globally. Shouldn`t the default rule do that for me?20:13
stefgSake: security updates in ubuntu are always quick. But the LTS versions receive them for 3 years (on desktop) so if running dapper you still get your Firefox 1.5 fixed20:13
LMJhello the chan20:13
pvh_salixomancem, not as far as i know20:13
pvh_salixomancem, you'd have to make a very broad filter for that20:13
Sakehrmm, ok. So why wait the week before installing HH?20:14
lixomancempvh_sa: that is strange. then why does a default discipline even exist?20:14
tonyyarussoSake: because if you don't know how to deal with pre-release software, you don't want to :)  It's only a day anyway, not a week.20:14
DanikarPNdoxid: U still in here? gparted has a livecd, you can use that to do it.20:15
Sakeyea, so basically I want to set up a machine with nothing but vmware server running on it. I have to decide whether to run the latest ubuntu or an older LTS like 6.0420:15
gajanhi20:16
Sakefrom what I'm hearing here, I should go for the latest20:16
doxidDanikarPN, i don't have any more CD's to burn :P20:16
* izinucs is away: I'm having...... a break20:16
pvh_salixomancem, look at the example at http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.qdisc.classful.html#AEN88320:16
DanikarPNdoxid: oh noes, isnt that like a sin or something. lol20:16
doxidDanikarPN, so i'm planning on running the live-cd (install CD) and install LVM2 into the ram :P20:16
blivori_Whenever I try to install something it shows the URL of the repo and says connection refused20:16
doxidhaha20:16
blivori_help plz20:16
debasyswill there be a much difference between currect RC4 and final 8.04 ? want to download now to avoid rush20:16
Pici!away > izinucs (you're having... a private message from ubotu)20:16
Nicekiwi9[zZz]THEMES!!!20:17
lixomancempvh_sa: yea I have been looking thru examples for a while... I tried creating a filter for port 80, and it still does not affect http file downloads20:17
DanikarPNdoxid: I bet you could get it running from a USB drive if you had one.20:17
doxidoff to try gparted install-cd style :P20:17
doxidhaha ^^ i got pleny DanikarPN :P20:17
tomd123debasys: just dl tomarrow, everything will be working tomarrow ;P20:17
doxidwell brb :)20:17
dreamer_guys. i know how to read mbr with dd command. But can i read the some other sector. Just one sector in the middle of HD? ty20:17
gajani am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found20:17
unopdebasys, not really, just make sure you get all the updates when you have finished installing20:17
tonyyarussoAll Hardy testing questions in #ubuntu+1.  Release anticipation in #ubuntu-release-party20:17
pvh_salixomancem, yeah, its dark magic. try the "shaper" package? its a much more friendly frontend to this stuff20:17
debasystomd123, he he right :)20:17
Nicekiwi9[zZz]more like release depression...20:17
blivori_So any help ?20:17
caleb_just out of curiosity, why does firefox make all the ! (exclamation points) bold?20:18
mattperryI'm new to ubuntu and wondered where to find the settings for 'single-click' as opposed to 'double-click' file opening etc?20:18
habernetis it possible to move AWN to the top of the screen?20:18
lixomancempvh_sa: yeah, I have tried some frontends, one of them I gave a full go was tcng, but the rules are still being ignored for some reason20:18
debasystomd123, cant stop the excitment ;)20:18
Ximalhey guys , how do I adjust my gamma /20:18
Ximal?20:18
jeffMASTERflexmattperry: open up nautlis, it's in the preferences20:18
lixomancempvh_sa: thank you anyway for your help, i'll just keep on trying for a couple of days before giving up :)20:18
unopmattperry, should be in nautilus's preferences20:18
OrbixxNautilus appears to be locked at a particular window size, not maximized.20:18
caleb_mattperry: 1) Open Nautilus (Places -> Home Folder)20:18
caleb_2) Edit -> Preferences20:18
caleb_3) Select Tab Behavior20:18
tomd123debasys: the excitement can be seen in ubuntu+1, so much people asking others to fix their problems lol20:18
mattperrythanks everyone20:19
Seveas!party20:19
ubotuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties20:19
blivori_WHENEVER I TRY TO INSTALL SOFTWARE (ADD/REMEMOVE SOFTWARE AND SYNAPTIC) AN EROR MESSAGE BOX OPENS AND SHOWS ME THE URL OF THE REPO AND TELLS ME CONNECTIO NREFUSED.ANY HELP PLEAZORZ?20:19
stefg!CAPS20:19
ubotuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.20:19
blivori_sorry caps20:19
mut80rrofl20:19
brrtblivori: the url must be wrong20:19
blivori_brrt: no it worked this morning20:19
brrtthat is odd\20:20
Baby_Shambl3scan someone tell me if my 'make check' compiled alright or if there are any issues i should be aware of - http://pastebin.ca/99492620:20
blivori_brrt: and I didn't mess and touch my repos20:20
Kineticthen its down20:20
debasyshey its April 24 here @my place ;)20:20
tomd123blivori_: did you get on any admin's nerve?20:20
Kineticjsut change repos20:20
stefgblivori_: probably just bad timing. hardy release in the process so servers are overloaded20:20
brrtwhich repo do you have, it might be offline20:20
Picidebasys, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party20:20
blivori_tomd123: no ?20:20
blivori_brrt: the maltese one20:20
blivori_brrt: mt. something20:20
tomd123blivori_: well then it's probably a bad link20:20
blivori_tomd123: Its not, it was working this morning20:20
brrtmt.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm just guessing now20:21
dreamer_hey, guys. dd if=/dev/hda of=/test.txt count=1   but how do i save other sector plz? ty20:21
blivori_brrt: yeah something like that20:21
Dmoleplease help i'm  trying to "del/S/F/P *old.*" but the "." is ignored  yes I am forced away from ubuntu for a moment and need windows help20:21
brrtdefinitely online here20:21
Seveasdreamer_, you want this instead: dd if=/dev/hda of=mymbr bs=512 count=120:21
blivori_brrt: hmzorz20:21
blivori_brrt: its not offline it says connection refused20:21
brrtthat is even odder, it might have a different key20:22
brrtyou should really ask the administrators of that site20:22
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brrtI can't help you with that20:22
gajani am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found20:22
blivori_brrt: W: Failed to fetch http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kdebase-runtime/kde-icons-oxygen_4.0.3-0ubuntu2_all.deb20:22
blivori_  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)20:22
Sn1p3rWrNhi...20:22
Baby_Shambl3scan someone tell me if my 'make check' compiled alright or if there are any issues i should be aware of - http://pastebin.ca/994926?20:23
brrtdoes that happen with all packages?20:23
Seveasblivori_, you configured it to use a proxy on your local machine, which is now dead20:23
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blivori_brrt: yes20:23
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brrtmaybe seveas's idea is correct20:23
Sn1p3rWrNblalbal20:23
gajanhi sn1p320:23
Sn1p3rWrNhi20:23
Sn1p3rWrNxD!20:23
andycaassMy nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???20:23
blivori_Seveas: I don't have proxies20:24
white_eagleI removed everything that had kde in its name, and that removed the qt libraries and now Opera looks ugly without them, so I want to reinstall them, can you tell me which packages do I need to install??20:24
brrtwhat is the host of mt.archive.ubuntu.com? mine is 91.189.88.3120:24
blivori_Seveas: only on firefox20:24
Seveasblivori_, then don't configure synaptic to use one20:24
donspauldingwhat's a good way to wipe all the data from my server's hard drive without rebooting?20:24
white_eagleI need the QT libraries again20:24
brrtgotta go ow20:24
blivori_Seveas: I didnt20:24
dreamer_Seveas, hey, this is for saving mbr but is it possivle to save some other sector?20:24
blivori_brrt: I cant access that site from firefox20:24
Seveasblivori_, yes you did. If you didn't, it wouldn't try to connect :)20:24
modocWhenever I add something to my hosts file, it gets reverted.  Is there somewhere else I should add my entries so they're not lost?20:25
blivori_Seveas: but I love you :(20:25
gajandonspaulding format it20:25
Seveasdreamer_, dd has skip and seek options, read the manpage to find out which to use when and how20:25
dreamer_Seveas, ty20:25
DimedhelHey there everyone.  I asked the same question a couple hours ago but I was disconnected, sorry.  I would like to know if someone knows what the "future" (being about 2.5 hours from know) download link for 8.04 will be.  The reason I ask is because I'm about to leave my office (and fast internet connection), but I would like to schedule the download so I'll have the .iso file by tomorrow...20:25
Dimedhel...morning.  Can anyone help?  Thanks.20:25
blivori_Seveas: its set as "direct conenction to internet"20:25
donspauldinggajan: with what?20:25
gajanyup dimedhel20:26
Seveasblivori_, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/apt.conf ant the output of the command 'env'20:26
salidanSzeva sayers!20:26
donspauldinggajan: nevermind, looks like I can just fdisk it.20:26
Seveas!hu | salidan20:26
ubotusalidan: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál20:26
doug2266778822_how does one change his curser icons i have the one i want downloaded.20:26
donspauldinggajan: thanks.20:26
blivori_Seveas: thx I <3 you20:26
salidanthx20:26
gajani am tryin g to install the package libssl0.9.6 but it says package couldnt found20:26
sayershi salidan ?20:27
Seveasgajan, that's because that version is way outdated. 0.9.8 is the most recent iirc20:27
salidanyes, hi :D20:27
white_eagleanyone tell me which packages contain the qt libraries20:27
andycaassMy nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???20:27
koroi have a binary file for an application that has no installer and is not packaged, i'm moving it to my /usr/bin directory, is there a way to add it to my "Applications" menu in gnome?20:27
blivori_Seveas: I don't have an apt.conf20:27
gajantx seavas20:28
Dimedhelthanks gajan.  Do you know the link?20:28
korowhen i go to Add/remove it only allows me to choose from the repositories or from properly installed applications20:28
XimalKinetic : I got this error when Doing your sudo apt-get install compiz-manager beryl20:28
Sn1p3rWrNI will close20:28
Seveasblivori_, then cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ and pastebin the output20:28
Seveasblivori_, then cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* and pastebin the output20:28
XimalKinetic : E: Couldn't find package compiz-manager20:28
salidanOMG, its too hight for me XD   by20:28
Kinetici named it wrong20:28
Ximalrestate it pls ?20:28
Kinetictype compiz and hit tab to complete..see what its called20:29
jeffMASTERflexkoro: you can add any item you want to your menu. right click on the menu and select edit20:29
korojeffMASTERflex: aaah awesome, thanks :)20:29
aroonii'm looking for a tool that functions like http://www.activewords.com within firefox... i.e. it can turn a few characters of text into several long paragraphs (of common text i usually type).  i do this within gmail.  is there anything for ubuntu gutsy or firefox that meets the bill?20:29
andycaassMy nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???20:29
XimalI see compiz.real20:29
Ximalbut how do I encorporate that into the sudo command ?20:29
ceckohi all, my cpu is Pentium M (centrino) shouldn't I have linux-image-386 instead of linux-image-generic?20:29
KineticXimal: check pm20:30
nexactI WANT 8.04 rite now.20:30
XimalWaiting for your pm20:30
nexact:-)20:30
Picicecko: No, generic is the proper kernel that supports all the *86 architectures.20:30
Pici!generic | cecko20:30
ubotucecko: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)20:30
Picinexact: then wait for it in #ubuntu-release-party :)20:30
ceckoPici, thx20:31
kristjanshello. is there some kind of app that would count the time, so i can start/stop it, and it would log everything (to keep track of the time i work)20:31
coolixe20:31
KineticXimal: sec20:31
Ximalok20:31
cojackhello20:31
cojackI have one problem20:31
white_eagleI stopped an installation, so I need to unlock it to I can install applications again20:32
cojackI don't have .gnome2/gedit/plugins/ location20:32
InterflopI can't seem to get any sound out of my Line In port.  Is there any reason for this to happen?20:32
cojackwhere I can find it?20:32
Seveascojack, then create it20:32
cojackSeveas: ok20:32
blivori_Seveas: http://pastebin.org/31590 thats env20:32
stroyankristjans:  There is the 'gnotime' package.20:32
Seveasblivori_, don't bother with the others20:32
Seveas#20:33
doug2266778822_what do i need to install that lets me change my mouse theme?20:33
Seveashttp_proxy=http://localhost:400120:33
Seveasline 720:33
FloodBot2Seveas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:33
kristjans:-) okay, stroyan, i'll have a look20:33
Seveasyou *did* configure a proxy blivori_ :)20:33
blivori_Seveas: ok20:33
blivori_Seveas: how do I remove it20:33
blivori_Seveas: if I did20:33
hozer__I've got a Ubuntu server upgrade gone bad... can someone advise?  stuck on Mailscanner issues, exactly like:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62307/       Would be very grateful for some assistance.20:33
ubuntu__anyone who knows the exact time for when Hardy is released?20:33
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Seveasblivori_, same way as you added it. Probably system -> preferences -> proxy or something20:34
blivori_alex314: yes 3:45 EST20:34
nexactalex314, it just has been delayed by 2 hours because you asked it.20:34
blivori_Seveas: I DID NOT EDIT OMFG20:34
blivori_ADD IT*20:34
Seveasblivori_, it does not just appear...20:34
ubuntu__thx20:34
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DanikarPNIt gets delayed 2 hours everytime someone asks. So I guess it is coming out next release? lol20:34
incorrecthelp20:35
blivori_Seveas: yes it does. Miracles exist you know20:35
incorrecti've hit a key combo20:35
Seveasblivori_, ....20:35
incorrectdamn it20:35
incorrecti can't see20:35
blivori_Seveas: the system _> network proxy thing is also set as direct connect to internet20:35
incorrecthow can i change from zoom ?20:35
mattgyver83Can i upgrade from 6.10 to 8.04 without having to upgrade to each version between?20:35
Seveasincorrect, logo key + scrollwheel20:35
Seveasmattgyver83, you can try but it's unsupported20:36
zoom??20:36
zoom:)20:36
incorrectSeveas, i am on a lap top20:36
Seveasincorrect, far right side of the touchpad functions as scrollwheel :)20:36
incorrectdamn it never hit this key combo before20:36
stroyanhozer__:  That looks suspiciously close to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=47705520:36
incorrectSeveas, i have a crappy tosh20:37
Seveasincorrect, /msg Amaranth20:37
Seveashe's compiz wiz20:37
caleb_incorrect: if you are talking about firefox you can zoom in or out with the ctrl and = and - keys20:37
blivori_Seveas: so ?20:37
incorrectyay20:37
incorrectplugin a mouse20:37
Seveasblivori_, then you set it somewhere else. No idea where, I didn't touch your machine20:37
incorrectthanks20:37
alex314blivori_, so Hardy should be released in about 11 hours?20:37
blivori_Seveas: liar yes you did20:37
Seveasincorrect, that'll work20:37
blivori_alex314: yes20:37
Seveasblivori_, if you want to be kicked, say so20:37
Seveasalex314, probably a few more20:38
andycaassMy nx6325 lappy doesnt want to change brightness after i suspended it, how to get 100% brightness back???20:38
trekkmeanybody know at which exact time (gmt) the official hardy images wille be realeased?20:38
blivori_Seveas: why are you being mean to me?20:38
codysoylandis ubuntu 8.04 coming out at midnight tonight?20:38
Seveas!isitout | trekkme20:38
Seveassigh, ubotu!20:38
blivori_Seveas: I f i remove line 7 will it remove the proxy ?20:38
jimcooncatubotu, where are you?20:38
ere4si!lag20:39
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blivori_aw AaronMT20:39
ubotutrekkme: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]arrrgh20:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about where are you? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]smb.conf is owned by root20:39
AaronMTHi, is there no DVD navigation available in viewing dvd's in Totem?20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]and I have it open in an editor20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]can't svae my changes20:39
FloodBot2Kcaj[UBuntu]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]because it says no permission20:39
blivori_AaronMT: where are you from20:39
Kcaj[UBuntu]can't change the permissions because it says I am not owner :(20:39
kasansweatSo, I know how to do nautilus scripts--I was wondering if it is possible to drag and drop files onto a script in nautilus (really, the icon for the script) and have it run?20:40
AaronMTWhy?20:40
trekkmethx anyways, will sit it out...20:40
blivori_AaronMT: are you from Malta?20:40
AaronMTno20:40
blivori_AaronMT: then you're not my frien20:40
blivori_d20:40
AaronMTThanks for sharing.20:40
AaronMTHi, is there no DVD navigation available in viewing dvd's in Totem?20:40
jimcooncatkasansweat: yes, I think the filename gets passed to your script as $120:41
OrbixxDoes anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?20:41
blivori_AaronMT: no problem20:41
nagimwhen will ubuntuHH be on ubuntu.com?20:41
kostas2505test20:42
OrbixxWithin 24 hours.20:42
FlannelOrbixx: no, within 40 hours.20:42
andycaassWhy can i only change brightness in VT (fn keys)? I have to keep switching between them to change brightness20:42
OrbixxFlannel: My bad.20:43
sparr_1 upgraded, 0 newly installed ... Need to get 0B/1421kB of archives. <-- why would the package already be downloaded but not already upgraded?20:43
amenadosparr_-> packages can be downloaded without it being installed20:44
AaronMTOh sheesh after all these months Totem still cant navigate dvd's20:45
whileimhereIs 7z really capable of compressing files better than zip?20:45
AaronMTYes20:46
Flannelwhileimhere: depends a lot on the file contents20:46
whileimhererom files20:46
whileimherethey are zipped once already20:46
patifaDon't add 7z on top of zip20:46
jeroen-I try to find VMware-player in the Ubuntu Hardy repo's, but I can't find it. I understand its part of the kernel, but how to start it?20:46
Dimedhel /msg NickServ set email mahoney.d.82@gmail.com20:46
andycaassWhy can i only change brightness in VT (fn keys)? I have to keep switching between them to change brightness20:47
patifaBut, likely, 7z will beat zip provided you use high settings for 7z compression.20:47
whileimherepatifa wont make much diff huh?20:47
patifawell attempting to 'double compress' eliminates the benefits of having the compressor finding repiticious stuff20:47
Anzahey20:48
Anzaone question20:48
amenadoyou also have to see how fast it compress and decompress20:48
whileimhereI see I didnt know that20:48
frielBy any chance does anyone have experience with SMAC ported by loki?20:48
bayarjeroen  im using vmware-server is better20:48
patifawell both are of similar speed, though 7z is a little slower, I think.20:48
patifaerm, decompression is about the same, compression is slower for 7z20:48
jeroen-bayar: I can't find that either20:48
AnzaI have problems to follow the instructions in this site to get the free pop20:48
Anzahttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-pop3-and-smtp-access-to-yahoo-mail-using-ypops-in-ubuntu.html20:48
jeroen-I just want to run a ISO20:48
Anzain the source list, when it asks me to paste that line, save and close... it appears somethign saying I dont have permissions to that20:49
Anzaso, I cant save and go on with the process20:49
bayarjeroen20:50
Anzaanyone can help please?20:50
AaronMT!sudo Anza20:50
Anzain the terminal?20:50
Ktronhow the _____ do I disable the avahi daemon? I don't want ANYTHING re enabling interfaces except for me20:50
bayarjeroen-:  whait a moment i will give u a url20:50
AaronMT!sudo | anza20:50
Bubble_teaAre there program that works like SWF files editing?20:50
Anzaok, let me try20:50
jeroen-bayar: yes, but it was always in the repo's , but not any more20:50
Bubble_teaShockwave Dreamwavers. etc/20:50
KtronI've /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop, update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove...20:50
jeroen-I try to find why20:50
Bubble_teaOr have installation to those programs into wine20:51
KtronAnd still there's something that thinks it knows how I should have my interfaces configured better than I do20:51
bayarjeroen because there is a new virtual machine (a gnu one) now20:51
jeroen-bayar: you mean virtual box?20:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudo anza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi20:52
Anzano Aaron, it says the same: You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.20:52
ubotuanza: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.20:52
bayarno jeroen an other one i forget the name20:52
thannoyjeroen-: you can try qemu if you have is in your repo. It is a command line virtualizer which can do the trick just pretty20:52
periclesDoes anyone know what exact time Ubuntu 8.04 will be released?20:52
goertelyeah what time anyone know?20:53
hanophix33my firefox crashes alot, any recommendations?20:53
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FlannelNo.  No one knows.20:53
jeroen-I dont understand: vmware was always in repos, now its in the kernel, but its not in the repos anymore20:53
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jeroen-I dont like qemu20:53
KtronAnyone-- how do I disable avahi?20:53
amenadoKtron-> how is your interface configured? as you claimed configured by avahi?20:54
periclesthanx20:54
kbrosnanhanophix33: uninstall flash?20:54
goertelohh 8( i want it as soon as it comes out.20:54
OrbixxDoes anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?20:54
hanophix33kbrosnan:  than what about flash files?20:54
Guillemjeroen-, virtualbox20:54
tonyyarussogoertel: #ubuntu-release-party20:54
goertelty20:54
kostas2505has anyone tried to sync with htc tytn ii?20:54
jeroen-Guillem: yes I understand that is new, but is it as fast and stable as vmware?20:54
evandrowhere's ubuntu br?20:55
tonyyarussoevandro: #ubuntu-br20:55
psychlol20:55
evandrotks20:55
jeroen-and why build it in the kernel and remove the player of the repos20:55
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Guillemjeroen-, I'm not an expert, but for sure it deserves a try :)20:55
psychevandro, damn brazilians :)20:55
Ktronamenado, http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c1620:56
Anzano, it won't work :(20:56
Anzasee, this is it20:56
Ktronamenado, Maybe its Ubuntu networking itself20:57
Anzafirst it says I must do: $sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list20:57
Anzathen, it opens a sources list20:57
Anzaand in that list20:57
Ktronamenado, regardless, all I want is to have control over my own network configuration and not have applications changing it on me/reverting it on me every couple minutes20:57
AnzaI must write: deb http://tskariah.000webhost.com/ubuntu ubuntu main20:57
Anzasave20:57
roglyCan anybody here help me with setting my screen resolution in Hardy Heron manually20:57
Anzaand close20:57
SeveasAnza, sudo, not $sudo20:57
Anzabut the manual says $sudo20:58
Anzaahhh wait20:58
tonyyarusso!fixres | rogly20:58
uboturogly: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto20:58
Seveasit probably says '$ sudo' -- $ indicates the command prompt Anza20:58
roglythank you20:58
andycaasswhy & when should I use "ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"20:58
dxdemetriouI saw before about smartpm.. it's a good idea to use it on Ubuntu as package manager? I wonder if I can use something that will make updates on some packages from some repo and not based by latest version20:59
Seveasdxdemetriou, ubuntu does not support smartpm20:59
AdrianStraysSo I installed a new login, which had the nifty feature of displaying all the different users (a la Windows), rather than prompting for user name.  I was surprised to find that there was another user, one which I had not created.  What is "Sabayon User" and can I safely delete that user?20:59
Anzahehe20:59
Anzadamn it was stupid21:00
* Anza blushes 21:00
Anzathank you guys21:00
SeveasAdrianStrays, that user is created by sabayon, a config editing/deployment tool. Look in system -> administration21:00
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Seveasyou should not remove this user, you can simply exclude him in the loginscreen config21:00
dtswhat tool can i use to reconfigure X after i screwed up the config file?21:00
dtsplsssss21:00
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Seveas!xfix21:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xfix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:01
Seveasmeh21:01
AdrianStraysSeveas, what is it for? Can I delete it?21:01
arttiEvening everyone.21:01
Seveasdts, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh21:01
stvn_How do i see how much RAM i'm using in console?21:01
SeveasAdrianStrays, you can delete it -- apt-get remove sabayon21:01
roglyfix res21:01
Seveasstvn_, with the command called 'free'21:02
dtsSeveas: thanxs21:02
Seveasstvn_, or with top/htop21:02
stvn_ty Seveas21:02
StucKman_hi all. can anyone tell me the difference between linux-image-2.6.24-16-386_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb  and linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb  ?21:02
roglywhen I typed that into console to fix my resolution, i jsut got a black screen =[21:02
AdrianStraysSeveas, for what reason is it installed? I don't recall ever putting it in.21:02
SeveasAdrianStrays, it's installed by default nowadays21:03
dxdemetriouSeveas, I said about smartpm just to say what I'm trying to do. can I do it with apt?21:03
arttiPlease, can someone recommend me music player for Ubuntu.21:03
Seveasdxdemetriou, yes, with apt pinning21:03
andycaasswhy & when should I use "ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE"21:03
Seveasartti, bmpx21:03
bayarjeroen are u there?21:03
arttiAmarok crashed, Rythmbox don't want play mp3's. Currenlty i use XMMS.21:03
StucKman_artti: bmpx, quod libet, amarok...21:03
whileimhereSo is this upcoming Ubuntu going to be released with GOBuntu upgrade at the same time?21:04
dethstarartti, what about banshee?21:04
dxdemetriouSeveas, I saw about it, but what I understood was about pinning and unpinning some versions, I didn't see anything about following only one repo.. anyway, thanks for help :)21:05
iRelinquishor exaile21:05
frieltrying to change permissions on a folder while logged as root. what is the correct syntax for the command?21:05
littlepinkdotWhats the script/software that shows live traffic and decrypts and shows pictures and such?21:05
arttiXMMS is good but negative side is that tag editor isn't good.21:05
dethstarI absolutely love banshee.  It's not as heavy as amarok, but has the same features that I want.21:05
Seveaslittlepinkdot, a web browser?21:05
MrObvious!encryption21:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi21:06
dethstaror listen?21:06
dethstarthe listen player is just amarok for gnome.... pretty much21:06
whileimhereWhen I download a MP3 from Amazon.com and it says it is DRM free do they do anything to the MP3 to ID it to me?21:06
froldHey, I have this: http://portalxl40.cvs.sourceforge.net/portalxl40/portal_xl40/ <<<--- howto download the files from the CVS folder?21:06
littlepinkdotlol Seveas, no there was a script I read about a while ago that can be used to sniff traffic on wireless/wired network and show any pictures it finds.21:06
KtronSo, what in *ubuntu Re enables interfaces withotu asking you?21:06
poopcheese3044does ubuntu need to be activated?21:06
KtronI have avahi disabled21:06
danandartti - have you looked at easytag for editing tags?21:07
Ktronnm-applet is not running21:07
Seveaswhileimhere, this is ubuntu support, offtopic talk elsewhere please21:07
Seveaspoopcheese3044, no. Ubuntu is software libre21:07
Ktrondoes the networking service itself in ?ubuntu re enable interfaces as it sees fit?21:07
arttiHaven't time yet to look things. Yesterday i installed Ubuntu.21:07
whileimhereOkay. are all Ubuntu distros updated at the same time or will Gobuntu be left behind for awhile?21:07
amenadoKtron-> how is your interface configured? as you claimed configured by avahi?21:08
SeveasKtron, it will activate the wired interface if you plug it in21:08
CJS3141I'm looking for a recommendation for a really good bittorrent client for Ubuntu--anybody have a favorite? :)21:08
damdalfhey guys ;)21:08
arttiVista got blue screen after i had it 4 days.21:08
Seveaswhileimhere, all at the same time21:08
brrtCJS3141: deluge21:08
palbuddyquick question (help a newbie :)) I want to open a torrent with deluge in gnome, but where is deluge in the directory structure? where can I find it with 'open with?'21:08
Seveaspalbuddy, /usr/bin/deluge I think21:08
Ktronamenado, Seveas, I have a wireless connection that is reenabling itself, there are before and after ifconfig pastes here http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c1621:08
AmbuTechAny ideas why an HP Pavilion with a realtec network card will not detect the the card in ubuntu 8.04?21:08
whileimhereI want to use Gobuntu but I still want to play my MP3s will Gobuntu give me a hard time with this?21:09
Some_PersonIs there any way to burn a video to a DVD-VR formatted disc?21:09
brrtIsn't deluge supposed to be a mimesink?21:09
GuillemAmbuTech, yes21:09
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Arky44AmbuTech: Windows Wireless drivers will not work in ubuntu (for the most part)21:09
GuillemAmbuTech, If've seen that21:09
brrtSome_Person: depends on wether that video is correctly encoded and your dvd burner21:09
CJS3141brrt: Sounds promising--is the 0.5.8.3.1 version in Synaptic up-to-date enough? Or should I get it off the web somewhere?21:09
GuillemAmbuTech, If you add "acpi=no" in the kernel options like (at grub menu.lst), the card works.21:10
Seveaswhileimhere, then it would no longer be gobuntu :)21:10
DgroHi21:10
amenadoKtron eth1:avahi is irrelevant, you cant use it anyways...try and see21:10
Some_Personbrrt: my burner supports it, and i can easily reencode21:10
GuillemAmbuTech, s/like r/line21:10
romanHi, anyone here who can help me with a Bluetooth Audio problem?21:10
AmbuTechCheers21:10
Seveas!anyone | roman21:10
uboturoman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?21:10
whileimhereLOL That is just one small part I thought Gobuntu was an overall thing21:10
AmbuTechtrying now21:10
doug2266778822_how does one change the mouse themes?21:10
romanokay ;)21:10
brrtthen burn it :-) I use brasero for burning21:11
balzachello21:11
palbuddythank you very very much seveas!21:11
balzacI'm trying to block some domains from my computer21:11
Some_Personbrrt: how would i add a new title to my disc/21:11
palbuddyI appreciate all the help you guys give!21:11
balzacWhat's the best way to go about it?21:11
brrtthat I don't know21:11
froldhowto download a CVS when you have the path?21:11
palbuddyokay well take care, and have a great day!21:11
Ktronamenado, so (not my choice but) my DNS server has a 169.254.0.x address, so I think when avahi comes up it takes over the route and then my DNS doesn't work anymore21:11
amenadobalzac several ways, iptables rules or host.deny21:11
roglydoes anybody know where to get themes for Hardy Heron?21:11
damdalfhow i can do hfs+ under ubuntu 7.10 instalation?21:11
OrbixxHow do I check file permissions?21:12
SeveasKtron, you should *not* use 169.254 anywhere21:12
OrbixxRemotely, via SSH?21:12
Ktronamenado, so my DNS stops working and I have to disable the interface again to get DNS back21:12
Coggzhow do i add a user in command line21:12
SeveasKtron, 169.254 is the link-local subnet, it should not be used in configurations21:12
KtronSeveas, I have no choice; it was my company's decision21:12
balzacamendo, does the host.deny file already exist?21:12
SeveasKtron, then your network admins need a good kick in the nuts, really21:12
balzacif not, where do I put it?21:12
danandCoggz - look at the adduser command :) man adduser21:12
bastid_raZorCoggz; man adduser will give you a tuturial21:12
balzacamenado21:12
romanSo, my Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?21:13
Coggzcool21:13
Coggzthanx21:13
KtronSeveas, It was chosen to be used as a set of non-public IPs that couldn't collide with public addresses OR local subnets21:13
roglyanybody on where to get Hardy heron themes?21:13
KtronSeveas, for our vlan21:13
amenadobalzac-> look for it in /etc21:13
slackereddi'm looking to reverse all the colors on the screen and just read http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1095/  aptitude says compiz is installed, but how do i use it or super+m?21:13
SeveasKtron, it clashes with what it's meant for, which you are now seeing21:13
balzacthanks amenado21:13
KtronSeveas, I agree though, its horrible, and yes, it causes problems like this21:13
SeveasKtron, disable avahi to work around it21:13
balzacI sense a productive week ahead, after I block out slashdot, digg, etc...21:13
Seveasand pray you never have mac users21:14
KtronSeveas, I'm trying to disable avahi, but I can't21:14
Baby_Shambl3scan someone provide me a working link that allows me to download cairo-dock it seems google has all these expired links and posts "would prefer .deb if possible"?21:14
dtsWHY does the stupid Gnome Recovery mode work and not the regular mode21:14
KtronSeveas, I've /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop, and I've even update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove21:14
amenadoKtron disable the interface that you dont use..21:14
amenadoKtron dont leave it up21:14
SeveasKtron, it's avahi-autoipd you want gone21:14
doxidHey lads, how come i get this error whein trying to mount a NTFS device:  http://213.114.10.15/error.png  (i managed to mount it just a min ago but after installing LVM2 it dosn't work)21:14
Ktronamenado, Seveas and I _do_ disable the interface I don't use with ifconfig eth1 down _but_ something is re enabling it21:15
amenadoKtron not per what you pasted, it is still up21:15
SeveasKtron, avahi itself did that, nothing to do with network-manager :)21:15
Marfidoxid, are you sure that its ntfs?21:15
amenadoKtron disable the interface that you dont use..21:15
ikoniadoxid: show me fdisk -l /dev/sdb in a pastebin please.21:15
Ktronamenado, the stop section is what I change it to with an ifconfig eth1 down, BUT then something enables them into the second ifconfig paste21:15
SeveasKtron, kill avahi-autoipd21:16
amenadoKtron what stop section?  what command you issued?21:16
doxidikonia, http://pastebin.com/d2921784821:16
Marfidoxid, i would also check and make sure its not sdb1, or hdb121:16
ikoniadoxid: have you added any pv's from sdb into a volume group ?21:16
doxidikonia, since i just ripped it out of a windows machine i'm pretty sure it's NTFS :P21:16
damdalf why in gparted on ubunty(on installing) hfs+ partition type is grey(cant select)?21:16
doxidikonia, nope. only sda21:17
dtshmm21:17
OrbixxDoes anyone know why Nautilus' windows are locked in size?21:17
Ktronamenado, I configure my system so it looks like the top part of http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=m287e0c16, and then something (avahi-autoipd most likely) changes it back to the bottom section without me doing anything21:17
doxidoh shoot21:17
ikoniadoxid: try mounting it read only with the ntfs driver, rather than ntfs-3g21:17
Lardarsedamdalf: is the partition mounted? if so unmount it and try again21:17
KtronSeveas, I killed them... but there wasn't any running, so what starts avahi-autoipd?21:17
doxidikonia, i might have accedently added sdb, but i removed it (i hope)21:17
ikoniadoxid: if you did that, it's game over21:17
KtronSeveas, er, hold on, let me clarify21:17
SeveasKtron, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/zzz_avahi-autoipd21:17
damdalfohh21:17
damdalfty21:17
ikoniadoxid: that would explain the situation21:17
doxidikonia, :S21:17
dtsany ideas why Gnome Recovery mode works and not the regular mode just goes blank white screen?21:17
doxidikex, no f-ing way : / seriously? :S21:18
KtronSeveas, I killed them previously, but they were restarted (and when you told me to kill them again, there were two processes up)... Okay21:18
doxidikonia, fuck if thats the case i'm gona go cry in a crorner for the rest of my lifetime ._. that was my love-disk >_<21:18
ikoniadoxid: sorry, yes, if you pvcreate it, it writes the private region, and that destorys your ntfs21:18
ikoniadoxid: careful on the language please, it's not needed21:18
damdalfthe partition is unnalocated21:18
doxidops sry : /21:18
ikoniadoxid: no problem,21:18
KtronSeveas, I made it no longer executable, hopefully that stops this21:19
doxidoh bugger : / thers like 11 years of work on that disk :'( i'm such a carrot :P21:19
JoesephIs there an alternative program to Xorg?21:19
ikoniadoxid: sorry, pvcreate will do that to it21:19
SeveasKtron, or edit it (it's a script) and remove the call to autoipd21:19
KtronSeveas, thanks21:19
GuillemJoeseph, very alternative21:19
doxidikonia, can LVM2 read ntfs properly?21:19
JoesephGuillem: as in not very main-stream? or what?21:19
ikoniadoxid: lvm is not a file system thing21:19
doxidnvm : / pvc will create a clean slate : /21:19
ikoniadoxid: it's a disk volume managment tool21:19
doxidikonia, yepp my bad. my head is spinning for possible solutions :P21:20
GuillemJoeseph, there are several alternatives not suitable for "normal users"21:20
ikoniadoxid: don't worry, it's complex with all the layers21:20
ikoniadoxid: easy to get lost21:20
GuillemJoeseph, Xorg has become pretty smart nevertheless.21:20
ikoniadoxid: your not the first and you won't be the last21:20
JoesephGuillem: ah... I've just had trouble with Xorg: it seems to eat up my cpu at random times21:20
doxidikonia, i'm probobly the first guy who skipped 20% of the manual as usual and ended up with 11 years of lost data :P21:20
GuillemJoeseph, try the vesa driver: no acceleration and so on21:20
rsids1does anyone know how to setup a multimonitor setup with 2 different GPU's? (1 nvidia, 1 ATI)21:21
GuillemJoeseph, but you can check where your trouble is coming from21:21
doug2266778822_is there a convert x to dvd for ubuntu?21:21
JoesephGuilllem: how do I do that- and I'll look up the vesa driver thing21:21
andycaassis ubuntu wiki down or what?21:21
ikoniadoxid: if you fancy a challange you could try dd'ing the data off, creating a new file system and trying to re-create it (long shot)21:21
GuillemJoeseph, which card do you have?21:22
doxidikonia, or i'll just start programming all over again from a 1 year old backup : / think that will be alot faster :P21:22
ikoniadoxid: your the boss, just trying to give you options21:23
doxidikonia, hopefully i got some stuff on my SVN server21:23
doxidikonia, thank you alot for the help :) actually ment alot21:23
ikoniadoxid: not a problem21:23
DgroHi21:23
JoesephGuillem: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 04)21:23
Dgroplugins and downloads, How?21:24
GuillemJoeseph, then, backup your /etc/xorg.conf, edit the file and locate where it says  "   Driver "intel"  " replacing with " Driver "vesa" ". You'll have to restart X.21:24
JoesephGuillem: like, right now, my computer is just dandy great.  Later, seemingly randomly, Xorg will just blow up when I do anything, so the above is what you suggest for that?21:25
GuillemJoeseph, vesa driver is very limited. Do not expect any dandyness21:26
GuillemJoeseph, it is like fail-safe mode21:26
GuillemJoeseph, are you sure Xorg is the one which is eating the CPU??21:26
JoesephGuillem:  yes, I've looked in top21:27
RAW-mEAT|TChow many hours until release?21:27
_Rambaldi_can i change what some keys on my keyboard does? ie make my home buttom be backspace as well. i have a small backspace next to home and i keep hitting that instead21:27
Seveas!isitout | RAW-mEAT|TC21:27
ubotuRAW-mEAT|TC: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.21:27
GuillemJoeseph, are you using desktop-effects? (3D)21:27
JoesephGuillem: Why am I installing this vesa driver?21:27
GuillemJoeseph, it is a suggestion only. In order to see where your trouble is coming from...21:28
DgroBB21:28
Gary_inNYCAre the apt servers going to be hammered like when gutsy just came out?21:28
romanMy Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?21:28
Gralcoso im not sure if my Nvidia glx graphics card can't handle Gnomes effects or if its a but, but some times my screen will just mess up21:28
VletSo, I've adjusted my xorg correctly to the best of my knowlege, but when I restart gdm, it still is using the wrong resolution, and my desired resolution is not in the options in the 'screen resolution' applet. Why?21:28
balzachello21:28
Gralcoand i dont know what to do21:28
JoesephGuillem: I am not using any 3d desktop effects.  On KDE, I have about half the effects on, but effects do not cause the Xorg to shoot up. For example, on gnome, I have no effects, and it still randomly shoots to close to 100% of my cpu.21:29
Gralcoreport it as a bug?21:29
balzacI've modified my etc/hosts.deny file to block the ip address of a specific website21:29
balzacI can still load this site in my browser21:29
tomd123what does it mean for a bug to be triaged?21:29
SeveasJoeseph, use top in a terminal to find out what's doing that21:29
balzacdo I need to reboot my networking to make it take effect?21:29
JoesephGuillem: so once I install this vesa driver, you'll help me figure out what is causing Xorg to eat my cpu?21:29
Seveasbalzac, hosts.deny is for *incoming* connections21:29
my_key:names21:29
balzaccrap21:29
JoesephSeveas: I already know its Xorg21:29
balzacI want to block my outbound access21:30
Vletbalzac: hosts.deny is used by services like web servers to know who not to allow to access your system.21:30
amenadobalzac-> hosts.deny is for incoming21:30
Seveasbalzac, sudo iptables -A OUTPUT -d ip_address_here -j REJECT21:30
balzacok, how can I block my own access to certain domains?21:30
rwycuffbalzac: man iptables21:30
amenadobalzac-> for outgoing you have to use iptables or in a proxy you blocked it there21:30
balzacthanks seveas21:30
balzacok, iptables it is...21:30
F3d0rAIs Ubuntu nearly ready?  Both 32 and 64 bit versions?21:31
Seveasbalzac, or install firestarter if you don't want to use the commandline :)21:31
Gary_inNYCWhen Hardy is officially available, will the apt repos get overwhelmed?21:31
Seveas!isitout | F3d0rA21:31
ubotuF3d0rA: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.21:31
balzacseveas, I'll try it21:31
GuillemJoeseph, it is getting late here :( . You were asking for a radical solution.... I just have pointed one possible choice. I understand you don't want to mess the xorg.conf file specially if you have never done so....21:31
AlabamaHitWas wonderin I installed phpmyadmin. I have not changed my DocumentRoot and I can not get acess to the phpadmin I think I ahve to change the root but...my questin is how can i add folders that apache views without changing the DocumentRoot...cause i want it to work on the localhost, phpadmin, and my Projects folder.21:31
F3d0rAhm21:31
GuillemJoeseph, you may try a liveCD to see if that happens as well....21:31
StarnestommyAlabamaHit: did you restart apache after installing it?21:31
F3d0rABBL21:32
mut80roh while I'm here, any idea why a bcm4311 isn't working on an acer aspire 5315 on gutsy? i press the wifi button and the light doesnt come on and nm-applet never lists any networks.21:32
jturkI have a page that when I load it in FF3b5 it immediately logs me out of gnome, doesn't happen for windows users on FF3b5.  can anyone point me in the right direction of who to report this to21:32
ikoniaAlabamaHit just create sub-folders int he document root21:32
balzacI've tried squid and ebox, and found them too difficult to set up.21:32
oxtailsouphi all! i've just wanted to start compiz but it sad: "composite extension not present" what shall i do?21:32
AlabamaHitStarnestommy: yes21:32
Baby_Shambl3splease check this as i have finally found the fiel for cairo-dock apparently the project still exist under a discreet domain :/ - http://pastebin.ca/995002, any suggestions to that warning are welcomed as long as it is helpful?21:32
simonft2does anybody know how to install open office on a ppc pc with ubuntu on it?21:32
axordjturk: what's the page?21:32
ikoniasimonft2: the same way you do with any package21:32
jturkhttp://qwiki.caltech.edu/wiki/Complexity_Zoo21:32
simonft2how?21:32
ikoniasimonft2: you open the package manager, select it and click intstall21:32
amenadobalzac kind of dumb trick, you can put an entry in the /etc/hosts for the destination and point it to a nonexisting ip address21:33
AlabamaHitikonia: i was trying to avoid that becuase i want to be able to move and save files without root privilage21:33
ikoniasimonft2: have you read ANY of the documents today ?21:33
rwycuffAlabamaHit: do you have php setup21:33
simonft2lol21:33
simonft2no it wont work21:33
JoesephGuillem: alright, I guess I won't mess with anything now-21:33
ikoniaAlabamaHit: you don't need root privilages, use sudo21:33
simonft2ill show you the erro21:33
simonft2r21:33
FloodBot2simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:33
ikoniasoulrider_: what won't work ?21:33
ikoniasimonft2: what won't work ?21:33
mad_max02Guys is ubuntu server good os for server in a mid sized network ?? It would need to be mail server, active directory server,...21:33
ikoniaAlabamaHit: just change the owner/group and you can do it with non-root accounts21:33
pschorfIs there a way to have GCC use certain flags (-g and -Wall) every time it is executed from the command line?21:33
AlabamaHitif i make folder in home i never have to touch the terminal for it woul be alot easier, lol21:33
simonft2the install21:33
ikoniamad_max02: it's as good / bad as any linux distro21:33
GuillemJoeseph, OK, do google a bit to see if there is any special issue with that card. Also, check Hardy in a couple of days...21:33
axordjturk: loaded fine for me with latest FF3 nightly21:33
VletSo, I've adjusted my xorg correctly to the best of my knowlege, but when I restart gdm, it still is using the wrong resolution, and my desired resolution is not in the options in the 'screen resolution' applet. Why?21:33
Seveasmad_max02, yeah, it's fine there if samba will do as AD replacement for you21:33
oxtailsoupcan you help me? compiz is saying "composite extension not present"21:34
simonft2OpenOffice.org Word Processor cannot be installed on your computer type (powerpc)21:34
simonft2Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type21:34
JoesephGuillem: will do....   hope hardy fixes it too21:34
ikoniasimonft2: ok, so it's not supported on ppc21:34
Starnestommyoxtailsoup: did you enable the restricted drivers in System > Administration > Restricted Drivers Manager?21:34
pschorfIs there a way to have GCC use certain flags (-g and -Wall) every time it is executed from the command line?21:34
simonft2so there is nothing i can do?21:34
jturkaxord: any idea on how to get a trace? consistently logs me out of gnome, weirdest bug I've seen in a while21:34
ikoniapschorf: CFLAGS LDFLAGS21:34
pschorfikonia: would i put that in my .bashrc?21:35
GuillemJoeseph, if I were you, I would check hardy prior to doing any strange thing.... specially when Hardy is to be released right now.21:35
ikoniapschorf: if you want21:35
axordjturk: sorry, no idea. And yeah, very weird.21:35
oxtailsoupStarnestommy: yes i did, it's active and in use21:35
AutoMatriXHi folks21:35
sarthorHi, Manual about pppoe server is here http://www.freeantennas.com/PPPoE-Server-HOWTO.html, but this manual is for suse, is there any specific for ubuntu??21:35
Seveas!pppoe21:35
ikoniasimonft2: https://help.ubuntu.com21:35
ikoniaioops21:35
ikoniasimonft2: sorry, not for you21:35
mut80rguys ? bcm4311 on gutsy? no networks ever picked up and wireless light does not come on when button is pressed.21:35
JoesephGuillem: alright, I'll check when Hardy comes out....21:35
ikoniasarthor: https://help.ubuntu.com21:35
simmerzwhere can i change settings about hard drive spin down/up?21:36
ikoniasimonft2: hdparm21:36
ikoniasimonft2: sorry again21:36
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ikoniasimonft2: hdparm21:36
simonft2lol21:36
Baby_Shambl3splease check this as i have finally found the fiel for cairo-dock apparently the project still exist under a discreet domain :/ - http://pastebin.ca/995002, any suggestions to that warning are welcomed as long as it is helpful?21:36
rsids1does anyone know how to setup a multimonitor setup with 2 different GPU's? (1 nvidia, 1 ATI)21:36
ikoniaooh for the love of.....21:36
simmerztry simmerz21:36
ikoniasimonft2: very sorry21:36
oxtailsoupany other ideas to my compiz problem?21:36
ikoniasimmerz: hdparm21:36
romanMy Bluetooth Headset is connected. Unfortunaly, it does not show up anywhere in the system (not in volume control etc.), but if I run "arecord -D bluetooth -f S16_LE | aplay -D bluetooth -f S16_LE", I can hear myself in the headset. So, how do I get the system to use my headset, and not my "normal" soundcard?21:37
ikoniarsids1: thats going to be quite a drag21:37
simmerzikonia: heh21:37
ikoniarsids1: you'll have to use xienerma21:37
pschorfikonia: I exported "-g -Wall" to CFLAGS and LDFLAGS, but if i run gcc, it doesn't generate warnings normally triggered by -Wall21:37
mad_max02is 8.04 package supposed to work on 7.10 ???21:38
mad_max02I'm asking about wine in particular21:38
ikoniapschorf: CXXFLAGS21:38
hacknslashoxtailsoup, does it lock up more when java applications are used ??21:38
Guillemmad_max02, I don't think so21:38
Starnestommymad_max02: it's unlikely that it'll work correctly21:38
ikoniapschorf: LDFLAGS is for linker, sorry, I shold have been clear21:38
mad_max02okay thanks21:38
bassohow can i add profile picture inn pidgin?21:39
oxtailsouper, as far as i know not21:39
doxidikonia, if it's not to bothersome to answer :) are you a official Ubuntu support employee? : )21:39
Guillemmad_max02, packages depend on libraries versions (>=something); 7.10 won't have some of them at a proper version21:39
mut80rbasso: I believe it's the bottom right corner of the contacts window21:39
pschorfikonia: so i export to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS? I'm still not getting the warning.21:39
ikoniadoxid: not any trouble, no I don't work for canonical21:39
my_keySometimes after a reboot. The gnome sound applet says no sound device is present for gstreamer. I have an asus X51RL laptop. Can anyone give a tip on how I can start debugging this?21:39
ikoniapschorf: maybe the code is good21:39
Godfatherrsids1: see priv21:39
simmerzikonia: hdparm doesn't seem to give me a way to see what the spindown time is21:39
ikoniapschorf: sometimes configure can override them on certain software21:40
doxidikonia, cool.. you're really great at what you are doing :) keep it up!21:40
linkmaster03how do I reinstall HPLIP?21:40
ikoniasimmerz: hdparm -B21:40
joliverhe21:40
ikoniadoxid: thats very flattering thank you, glad to be of service21:40
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simmerzthat sets. so if i don't give it an option, it gets?21:40
ikoniasimmerz: I don't know if it will get it, I think your just supposed to set it to what you want21:40
pschorfikonia: if I actually type it in (gcc -g -Wall -o 1-1 1-1.c) it generates the warning...I would like it to run by default because I frequently forget to "return 0"21:40
simmerzikonia: the point is i want to see what it is currently.21:41
ikoniasimmerz: I (maybe wrongly) assumed disks came with it disabled and disks set it21:41
joliverhello21:41
ng0ncan i format a partition, not the whole drive ?21:41
joliverI'm having an issue with apt authentication21:41
joliverGPG keys21:41
ikoniasimmerz: ok, so you've got CFLAGS="-Wall" and CXXFLAGS-"-Wall" too ?21:41
simmerzwondering if ubuntu itself spins the drives down after some time? basically my machine locks up after extended periods of leaving it alone21:41
simmerzikonia: ??21:41
lukahello I'm first time here on irc and have a big problem - my touchpad stopped working and I don'n know what to do21:41
pschorfsimmerz: that was for me, i think21:41
pschorfikonia: yes21:42
ikoniasimmerz: try setting it to 255 (disable) and see if it spins the disk down21:42
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my_keyand alsamixer says: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device21:42
ikoniasimmerz: sorry, wrong person21:42
joliverI get GPG error signatures invalid21:42
DgroHi21:42
joliverAny idea?21:42
linkmaster03how do I reinstall HPLIP?21:42
simmerzikonia: ok21:42
ikoniapschorf: clear your source tree, re-unpack it (or clear the cache files) and try it, your Makefile is probably overriding it21:42
pschorfikonia; will do21:42
ikoniasimmerz: pschorf sorry, my typing is sloppy today for some reason21:42
melteris there a way to do both autoremove and purge?21:42
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ikoniapschorf: thats the most common issue, the Makefile is written/updated byt he configure script, or cache files are overiding changes21:43
joliverany idea on GPG signature issues with ap?21:43
joliverapt21:43
simmerzikonia: no worries21:43
infblissare the default hideous fonts in Ubuntu fixed in Hardy Heron21:43
mut80rhideous fonts ?21:43
ikonia!hardy | infbliss21:43
lukahello I'm first time here on irc and have a big problem - my touchpad stopped working and I don'n know what to do21:43
ikoniaoh for the love of....21:43
ikoniaInsektO: hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+121:43
Anzawhich mail client is the best? on ubuntu21:44
ikoniaughh21:44
cabrioleurluka, is there a button of buttons to turn it off and on?21:44
joliverapt-get update gives GPG error, any idea how to correct this?  I'm using Hardy21:44
ikoniainfbliss hardy is discussed in #ubuntu+121:44
LiveCDuserpidgin one21:44
lukano21:44
LiveCDuser does any one know the password for LIVE CD 6.06.. I need to use Sudo on live cd...21:44
ikoniaLiveCDuser: there isn't a password21:44
NaosuHey Guys I got a Super hard question: I Got 3 laptops next to me, 2 with out optical drives and no os, and one fully functional laptop running Fedora Core and ubuntu, is there any easy way to install fully configured ubuntu for ither the 2 old optical-less laptops? Ubuntu 7.10. =) thanks21:44
cabrioleurluka, usually it's located around the touchpad, or fn button + one of the f buttons.21:44
LiveCDuserreally?21:44
geniiLiveCDuser: Enter key21:44
Malachijoliver: You need the key from the source of the third party.21:44
LiveCDuserok21:44
LiveCDuserThanks21:45
cabrioleurluka, is it a laptop?21:45
Sh4wnHi21:45
ikoniaNastyAccident: netboot, kickstart and oem script, any of those methods21:45
lukayes21:45
cabrioleurluka, stupid question. What laptop?21:45
Sh4wnI have a little problem with my Sony Plug n Play mp3 player :)21:45
Sh4wnwhen I connect it21:45
NastyAccidentikonia, ?21:45
lukaweb boy21:45
lukaold one21:45
luka:)21:45
ikoniaNastyAccident: sorry sorry sorry21:45
Sh4wnit looks like it does nothing21:45
Sh4wnbut21:45
ikoniaNaosu netboot, kickstart and oem script, any of those methods21:45
lukagericom21:45
sarthorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/index.html here i only can find LDap server, i am searching for pppoe server help, is there any help on this page, i am unable to fine.21:45
Sh4wnUbuntu does recognise something is connected21:45
sarthorfind*21:46
egchey guys, what's the name of the common IDE for C?21:46
ikoniaSh4wn: doesn't sony use propriaty codec/install method21:46
linkmaster03What is the terminal command to reinstall a Synaptic package?21:46
ikoniaegc: eclipse ?21:46
Daisuke_Idoegc, anjuta?21:46
Sh4wnbecause when I mount /dev/sdf1 (the connected device) manually, I can browse all files21:46
Cahanegc, geany21:46
balzacwow, firestarter was easy21:46
C_Kodeegc vi!21:46
ikoniaSh4wn: and ?21:46
NaosuiKonia: I don't know how to netboot or kickstart, and the other laptops do not have any os. I am very bio's illiterate.21:46
Sh4wnikonia21:46
Sh4wnthe problem is21:46
Sh4wnI can only browse21:46
egcC_Kode: more IDE-ish than that :)21:47
Sh4wnno editting21:47
FloodBot2Sh4wn: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:47
ikoniaNaosu: there are guides on https://help.ubuntu.com21:47
balzacok, time to be productive. thanks for the help. bye.21:47
egcthanks all21:47
Gralcowhere do i get a mentor for becoming a MOTU?21:47
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ikoniaSh4wn: hence why I asked if sony used propriay stuff on it's magic gate stuff21:47
egci was looking for syntax-highlighting21:47
egcor coloring21:47
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Sh4wnwell the Sony does support plug n play21:47
lukahow do I find out if there is possibility option to turn off touchpad21:47
ikoniaSh4wn: plug and play is detection21:47
ikoniaSh4wn: not drag and drop21:47
Sh4wnno sonicstage is needed21:47
zvacet        Gralco : try on MOTU chanal21:47
Sh4wnand it did work on Gutsy :P21:48
DgroBB21:48
ikoniaSh4wn: what file system is on the sony?21:48
Baby_Shambl3show do i extract a tar.bz2 file?21:48
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: tar jxvf21:48
Sh4wnI used vfat to browse it21:48
C_KodeBaby_Shambl3s: tar -zjf I believe21:48
NaosuiKonia: I was Aiming at just installing ubuntu on the system and then just do a reinstall is possable directly off the laptop21:48
C_Kodeer jxf21:48
linkmaster03What is the terminal command to reinstall a Synaptic package?21:48
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zvacetBaby_Shambl3s : tar jzvf filetat.bz221:49
Sh4wnlinkmaster03 reinstall?21:49
ikoniaSh4wn: ok, so you should be able to write to it using sudo21:49
Malachilinkmaster: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename21:49
ikoniazvacet: not z21:49
ikoniaBaby_Shambl3s: tar jxvf21:49
linkmaster03Malachi: Thank you21:49
pschorfikonia: I forgot to say that i'm not using a makefile, I'm only compiling a source file for a homework assignment and didn't bother21:49
gribouilleI installed the rc, and I already found a problem21:49
sachaelhi, guys21:49
ikoniapschorf: no problem, clear the cache then21:49
linkmaster03#ubuntu+1 gribouille21:50
Sh4wnikonia ok, ill try it :)21:50
pschorfikonia: how do I do that?21:50
zvacetikonia : You are right.My mistake!21:50
Baby_Shambl3sikonia, C_Kode, zvacet: thanx21:50
rsids1ikonia: Yeah I know it's a drag, I've tried before, without any luck21:50
duanebhey people21:50
Gralcozvacet : can you give the the URL for the MOTU channel for a mentor?21:50
duanebhow can I get mac os x-type font rendering?21:50
sachaelim trying to install ubuntu on a friends laptop but we got errors while loading21:50
Malachiduaneb: System > Preferences > Appearance21:51
Sh4wnikonia, yeah thanks :) it works now. But do you have any idea why it does not automatically mount?21:51
sachaeldisplays a prompt with "(initram)" or something21:51
duanebUbuntu's has no definition.... all the fonts are much too slight21:51
MercureeHi people. I want to install sugarcrm on my ubuntu linux server installation (hoary hedgehog) in order to do so I have started installing apache (apt-get install apache2) it installs some required packages then asks if I want to delete my kernel?21:51
Malachiduaneb: Look in the Font tab. But it's not like OS X21:51
zvacetBaby_Shambl3s : sudo apt-get install p7zip p7zip-full21:51
BugFreeWinhello!21:51
daemon3That's no fiar: no Mac4Lin icons for KDE. :(21:51
mut80rsachael: I get that too with 7.04; tty job control is turned off. try searching at the forums. 7.10 works however.21:51
LebLinuxHello, how do I tell the update-manager to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy from the Hardy Alt CD?21:51
Malachiduaneb: Play around with the different options there.21:51
zvacetBaby_Shambl3s  :right click on archive and select unpack here21:51
pschorfikonia: how do I clear the cache?21:51
sachaelmut80r, im trying with 8.0421:51
duanebMalachi, I already have. The fonts are still way too slight.21:51
duanebMalachi, I have21:51
Mercureei said no. now, however, there are a ton of unmet dependencies that refuse to install either by using install -f or install (packagename) could someone give me some ponters please?21:52
duanebI was hoping people here would have extra knowledge they would give...21:52
mut80roo my bad. for 8.04 support see  #ubuntu+121:52
Bitttubuntu-es21:52
DgroHi21:52
Daisuke_Idoonly 1425, i really expected a better turnout21:52
Mercureeduaneb be patient.21:52
zvacetMercuree : maybe you have to install them like sudo apt-get install dep1 dep2 dep321:53
Mercureeah. thanks zvacet21:53
Mercureei will try that21:53
crookshanksif i want to install hardy's version of git on my gutsy machine, what's the best way to do that?21:53
LebLinuxHello, how do I tell the update-manager to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy from the Hardy Alt CD?21:53
crookshanksdo i have to use prevu?21:53
zvacetMercuree : you can thak me if it work21:53
Malachiduaneb: http://www.ubuntutips.net/node/35 and http://www.ubuntutips.net/node/10 are the only things I can tell you.21:54
MalachiLebLinux: One minute, I know.21:54
Mercureehmm it now gives me dependencies for the dependency21:54
Mercureehehe21:54
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LebLinux;>21:54
tovarejoin #ubuntu-release-party21:54
MercureeI was just getting the hang of gentoo self installed. went for ubuntu coz ithough it was easier21:54
MalachiLebLinux: Put the CD in and press Alt+F2, then type gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"21:54
duanebahh, turning hinting off helps21:54
Mercureeseems not :)21:54
Baby_Shambl3szvacet: no point the command works21:55
LebLinuxMalachi: thank you!21:55
balgarathLooking at building a desktop to run Ubuntu on...anyone recommend what hardware I should go for/stay away from?21:55
zvacetMercuree : so called dependencie hell  try with last one21:55
MalachiLebLinux: Mhmm.21:55
egcanjuta seems to suffice21:55
fation_linuXhello  everyone21:55
fation_linuX;)21:55
LebLinuxMalachi: are you sure?21:55
Gralcowhere do i go to get a mentor to help me become a MOTU?21:55
mwefation_linuX, hello21:56
spsneowhats the release date of ubuntu hardy21:56
MalachiLebLinux: Pretty sure. Make sure the CD is and shoes on the desktop.21:56
Starnestommyspsneo: tomorrow21:56
fation_linuXmwe :)21:56
zvacetBaby_Shambl3s : maybe sometimes is easier to just click21:56
rwycuffspsneo:tomorrow sometime21:56
MalachiThen: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"21:56
whiteeagleplease please tell me exactly which QT packages do I need to install so I can make opera's menus look better now (like a qt app), because i uninentionally removed them21:56
MalachiLebLinux: If you have multiple CD roms it may be different21:56
mut80rgotta go. cya21:56
spsneomy ubuntu 8.04 beta version crashes so many times21:56
DgroI need help getting plugins and downloads on Ubuntu's Dapper Dan21:56
LebLinuxMalachi: Nah am on the laptop 1 cd21:57
whiteeagleso I need the qt libraries21:57
mwespsneo, what do you mean ubuntu crashes? ;)21:57
whiteeaglei don't know which packages do I need to install21:57
MalachiLebLinux: Does it recognize the alternate CD?21:57
LebLinuxMalachi: then how do you check if the version is Hardy? anything in /etc/ ?21:57
whiteeaglebecause I am a gnome user21:57
whiteeagleand I use some qt apps21:57
Pici!hardy21:57
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!21:57
whiteeagleand they look ugly21:57
LebLinuxMalachi: I will do that tomorrow, not now.21:57
ksalhi21:57
MalachiLebLinux: System > Administration > System Monitor21:57
MalachiLebLinux: First tab21:57
spsneoi mean xorg crashes21:57
ksali've got such a problem that don't have option to shutdown i restart my computer in gnome21:58
zvacetwhiteeagle : try in synaptic right click on Opera ans see if something is recommended for install21:58
LebLinuxMalachi: no command lines?21:58
hacknslashLebLinux, cat /etc/issue21:58
MalachiOr that.21:58
Malachi:]21:58
mwewhiteeagle, I believe you can change theme and what not21:58
LebLinuxhacknslash: Thank you, Malachi Thank you!21:58
ksali can logout, hibernate, etc, but there's missing option of shutdown and restart21:58
Daisuke_Idoksal, is kdm your display manager?21:58
ksalany ideas?21:58
LebLinuxMalachi: Also I can upgrade om boot time right?21:58
ksalyes21:58
Daisuke_Idoksal, that's why21:58
MalachiLebLinux: Mhmm!21:58
ksalgeez21:58
ksalhow can i fast change it?21:58
Daisuke_Idoksal, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm21:58
LebLinuxMalachi: means yes.21:58
ksalthanks21:58
Daisuke_Idoand select gdm as your default display manager21:58
Daisuke_Idochanges won't be apparent until you restart X21:59
MalachiLebLinux: Oh, yes. Sorry. Forget I'm not in casual IRC21:59
Mercureezvacet : http://pastebin.ch/183 this is what happens when I do what you suggest. Unless I am doing it wrong?21:59
ksalthanks ^^21:59
LebLinuxthanks.21:59
Daisuke_Idoyou're welcome :)21:59
mweDaisuke_Ido, kdm can't reboot etc?21:59
Daisuke_Idomwe, it can, but it's integrated into kde21:59
Mercureezvacet : http://pastebin.ch/183 this is what happens when I do what you suggest. Unless I am doing it wrong?21:59
jc_denton!hardy21:59
ubotuHardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!21:59
whiteeagleplease tell me which libraries do I need for qt apps to look properly21:59
Mercureeapologies for douple post. confused myself there. Im bone tired.22:00
Daisuke_Idoso you would have the shutdown and reboot options in kde, but not gnome.  gdm is vice versa, it's more integrated with gnome22:00
balgarathLooking at building a desktop...anyone recommend what hardware I should go for/stay away from?22:00
Malachiwhiteeagle: Properly? What do you mean?22:00
whiteeagleMalachi: the menus look ugly22:00
mweDaisuke_Ido, funny, kinda. I use gdm but kde as my DE and it can reboot etc22:00
athenahi everyone, i need some help about mirrors, i wrote at ubuntu-mirrors channel but i have no answer22:00
Malachiwhiteeagle: Oh, heh. qtconfig-qt4 qtconfig-qt3 and/or kcontrol22:00
Daisuke_Idothen it may just be a limitation of kdm22:00
athenai made a mistake when writing the link of my mirror at launchpad22:01
Bonesjoin #ubuntu-uk22:01
mweDaisuke_Ido, perhaps22:01
athenanow i corrected it but when will it be ok in downloading list?22:01
Cygokunetwork problem here22:01
Cygokuanyone thinks he can help ?22:01
Daisuke_Idoi stick to gdm myself22:01
mweDaisuke_Ido, I have bad experiences with kdm in general22:01
zvacetMercuree I think you don´t have all repos open22:01
Daisuke_Idomwe, can't say i blame you22:02
zvacetMercuree : is that Dapper22:02
whiteeaglefaster anyone, I have problems with my network connection22:02
Mercureehoary22:02
Cygokuno one helps in network problem ?22:02
Daisuke_Idoo_O22:02
Daisuke_Idohoary?22:02
Malachi whiteeagle: Oh, heh. qtconfig-qt4 qtconfig-qt3 and/or kcontrol22:02
whiteeagleMalachi: the menus look ugly22:02
mweDaisuke_Ido, maybe gdm is simply more mature22:02
Mercureeyeah. hoeary hedgehog22:02
Daisuke_IdoMercuree, you're kidding, right?22:02
Mercureenope22:02
Mercureelol22:02
MercureeIts all ive got.22:02
Daisuke_Idohoary hasn't been supported for quite a while22:02
zvacetMercuree: Hoary is not supported anymore22:02
CygokuDamn.22:02
Mercureehow much bandwidth would an upgrade suck?22:03
mweCygoku, you're on hoary as well?22:03
MalachiMercuree: From Hoary? You'd be up all night.22:03
Mercureehehe22:03
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Mercureedamn22:03
CygokuI am under Hardy Heron yes.22:03
Mercureeshouldve stuck with gentoo22:03
hacknslashCygoku, what exactly is your problem22:03
PiciCygoku: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.22:03
PiciHoary is not Hardy Heron22:04
Mercureeunfortunately that was an all nighter too22:04
mweMercuree, I don't think you can upgrade to current from hoary and expect it to work22:04
Daisuke_IdoMercuree, your best bet is to back up your /home/user directory and install a newer version22:04
CygokuMy laptop is using gutsy, my desktop hardy ... but they can't see each other on the netowkr22:04
Daisuke_IdoBob_Sagot, that should be an 'e'22:04
pschorfikonia: I've tried restarting my computer, still can't get the gcc to catch the flags22:04
Mercureepreburned cds are impossible to come by and my connection is way too slow for download22:04
Mercureein my town that is22:04
Bob_SagotDaisuke_Ido: I know what the correct spelling is22:04
mweCygoku, it's probably not because of the fact that the versions differ22:04
Mercureeand anywhere else they are nightmarishly expensive22:04
Mercureeshipping blegh22:05
Daisuke_IdoBob_Sagot, avoiding a C&D letter, eh? :D22:05
Sh4wnOja22:05
Sh4wnwhoo22:05
Sh4wncool22:05
Cygokuwell, everything was working fine when my desktop was on WindowsXP (until yesterday)22:05
Bob_SagotDaisuke_Ido: quite possibly22:05
Sh4wnI didn;t knew Ubuntu played the song when you hover it in nautilus xD22:05
hacknslashCygoku, can you ping one from the other ??22:06
rwycuffCygoku:can you get onto the internet with both these box'a22:06
spsneowhen will they start shipping ubuntu hardy cd22:06
spsneo?22:06
Mercureeok sudo apt-get install -f seems to be working. glibc is currently upgrading22:06
Cygokuyes both can use the internet22:07
Daisuke_Idospsneo, congratulations, you just added two hours to the release time22:07
Cygokuand as for ping, i will need to test that when I am back home22:07
Daisuke_Idoat this rate we'll never get it :D22:07
spsneohow did i add22:07
spsneo?22:07
primanu asked22:07
spsneoasking adds ?22:07
rwycuffCygoku: ifconfig on laptop get its ip and go to desktop and type ping <laptop IP> and see what happens22:07
Cygokuhow do I ping in ubuntu ?22:07
Daisuke_IdoJoin the party! We eagerly await the release of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, due thu. april 24 2008 | The release gets delayed by 2 hours each time someone asks when it's out22:07
primanit will add 2 hours eveytime someone asks when it comes out?22:08
spsneohow's that possible?22:08
|g|Hey People!22:08
hacknslashCygoku, from a terminal22:08
rwycuffCygokuLping just like in windows22:08
Cygokutrought a Terminal ?22:08
rwycuffyes22:08
balgarathWhen does Hardy get released?22:08
Daisuke_Ido...it's a joke :)22:08
Cygokuping 111.111.2.1 ??22:08
rwycufftomorrow22:08
hacknslashCygoku, yes22:08
Daisuke_Idobalgarath, at this rate, 200922:08
rwycuffCygoku: yes22:08
moralistit will be delayed some weeks then :P22:08
balgarathreleasetime =+ 120 :)22:08
|g|In Firefox, I would like to replace GNU-JAVA with SUN-Java. Any ideas how?22:08
zvacet        Mercuree :                            https://shipit.ubuntu.com/        It is free22:08
Daisuke_Idowhich means that maybe JUST MAYBE we can get amarok 1.4.9.1 backported to gutsy22:08
_alf_is hardy being released at a given time tomorrow? like midnight gmt?22:09
chimp_Is tar -t not meant to list the archives contents, because when i do it, it just pauses22:09
spsneowhat is the default password for tomcat admin22:09
primando a new version of ubuntu come every 6 months?22:09
_alf_priman: yeah22:09
Mercureehmm i phoned the ubuntu people. they wanted money to ship it22:09
Daisuke_Ido_alf_, type /topic22:09
kbrosnan|g|: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Java22:09
Mercureei suppose i mustn be a cheapskate eh?22:09
white_eagleMalachi, it says it can't find those packages22:09
white_eagleqtconfig-qt3 and qtconfig-qt422:09
Daisuke_IdoMercuree, go to the shipit website, they don't charge22:09
_alf_haha. my apologies Daisuke_Ido22:09
mrkeishiiwhats better: Scream? Quanta? Blue Fish?  "<-----Web Develop Tools"22:10
primanhow big are the changes? like windows' SP or like from 2k to XP to Vista22:10
zvacetMercuree : but if you want to geting updates you have to rreplace archive.ubuntu.com  with old-releases.ubuntu.com in your source list22:10
Starnestommypriman: newer packages and more features, plus a lot of bug fixes22:10
_alf_priman: opengl accelerated xwindows is probably the most noticiable change22:10
primanare you saying that there are a lot of bugs in ubuntu?22:10
mrkeishiiwhats better: Scream? Quanta? Blue Fish?22:10
Baby_Shambl3sit works it works... it si alive muahahahahaha :D took freaking long with my newbness but cairo works and is transparent without compiz/beryl hahahaha22:11
Starnestommypriman: there are a few, but there aren't that many22:11
primanless than most windowses?22:11
DgroHi22:11
strtokanyone know if evolution supports MAPI (exchange) yet? I can't seem to find information about it on their webpage22:11
Mercureeim checking it out.22:12
mikefizzhey, i have a dell laptop with an intel integrated graphics, the compiz fusion settings worked with the live cd but do not work now that ubuntu is installed22:12
Mercureethanks22:12
balgarathmikefizz, same problem here22:12
ichatlol - since when is windows THA standard for  comparance of  the software standards?22:12
rwycuffpriman:everything has lesss bugs then windoze22:12
_alf_priman: i don't think anyone knows that22:13
james91deanhi guys22:13
mikefizzbalgarath: any ideas?22:13
rwycuffhi22:13
stroyanmrkeishii:  There is a '22:13
balgarathmikefizz, which laptop?22:13
mikefizzbalgarath: e150522:13
james91deanis the official 8.04 release available to download or do i have to wait for tomorrow?22:13
caexobeing i use a router firewall... for what reason would my pings be lower in ubuntu?  cool though22:13
stroyanmrkeishii:  There is a 'professional' review of those html editors at http://www.newsforge.org/feature/13060122:13
mrkeishiithanks22:14
bat_ciao come faccio ad andare nel prog italiano22:14
DgroBB22:14
james91deanjust see the release candidate on the site22:14
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Jaymacjames91dean: tomorrow22:15
james91deanok22:15
gribouilleis there an option to dpkg to modify the path to the package database ?22:15
amolDoes anyone know why the youtube videos become laggy once I fullscreen them?22:15
james91deanjust i got a windows machine here that i really want to give the finger to ;-)22:15
reloophi guys. what settings are recommended in xorg.conf if i use compiz-fusion and ati raden hd card?22:16
reloop*radeon22:16
reloopamol could be the resolution22:16
balgarathmikefizz, I disabled xserver-xgl, and reinstalled drivers with Envy...compiz works but I have to turn it off if I want to watch a video...and also, I get little white bars on the screen at random sometimes22:16
chimp_What sort of space do you recon is resonable to set aside to use for testing other distros or alpha/beta releases of ubuntu22:16
adpartyyyyyyyyy22:16
reloopor no hardware support from your graphics card for displaying fullscreen video..22:16
reloopim just guessing :)22:16
james91dean20gb?22:16
amolHmm...I'm at 1280x1024. It worked perfectly for me on Windows.22:17
Daisuke_Idobalgarath, well i see one mistake right there22:17
balgarathmikefizz, some info here...it should apply to your laptop also; http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/04/overview-of-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-on.html22:17
pschorfI'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works22:17
Daisuke_Idoyou used envy22:17
reloopamol which praphics card you use? which java which flash?22:17
reloop*graphic22:17
balgarathDaisuke_Ido, was recommended by someone else that knows more than me and has the same laptop :)  what do you suggest?22:17
james91deanjust saw the text on the top of the forum, sorry for asking22:17
llin-ubuntuI have 6 different distros of linux, I want to use BOINC but is there any way to have each distro's BOINC work on the same project, instead of each having their own?22:18
mikefizzbalgarath, that page is talking about an ati card, mine uses an intel...22:18
Daisuke_Ido!ati | balgarath22:18
ubotubalgarath: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:18
balgarathDaisuke_Ido, thanks22:18
schidambanyone installed AIM on ubuntu, or can I do apt-get to get AIM on ubuntu22:19
mikefizzbalgarath its a mobile 945gm22:19
Daisuke_Idoaim does not exist22:19
balgarathmikefizz, ahh, I thought the 1505's were ATI's also...22:19
balgarathschidamb, www.meebo.com22:19
mikefizzschidamb, go get pidgin22:19
Daisuke_IdoBUT, you already have pidgin :)22:19
llin-ubuntushidamb use pidgin instead22:19
balgarathor pidgin :)22:19
evilbugcan anyone help me compile the new pidgin?22:19
Daisuke_Idopidgin is definitely a better bet than trying to run a native client through wine or something odd like that22:19
EthanTopic >> "No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released."22:19
Ethanok, bye :D22:19
AutoMatriXhi folks, which progran should I use to sync my cellular phone (a Nokia6610)  with evolution ?22:19
llin-ubuntuand aMSN has webcam support i believe (not a user but I have heard)22:20
Mercureei fixed it! yay!22:20
schidambis pidgin installed already, or I've to install it22:20
|g|The Ubuntu page says "Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory" - but where is my "mozilla plugins directory"?22:20
mikefizzamsn does work with webcams22:20
llin-ubuntugo to Apps/Internet click pidgin22:20
* AutoMatriX precises it should be via IRDA 22:20
llin-ubuntuubuntu installs pidgin when you install22:20
rwycuffschidamb: lookin your internet apps if its not there apt-get install pidgin22:20
evilbugllin-ubuntu- i have pidgin installed,i jsut want to update it.22:21
Kronhej22:21
llin-ubuntuapt-get install pidgin, will get the latest version22:21
silenihello http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/ , im trying to use that , but im using live cd cause i want to make sure wireless works before i install. is there a way to do that tutorial without rebooting?22:22
KronI know u dont know exactly when 8.04 airs. But will it air at morning or at night22:22
SeveasKron, we don't know22:22
Seveas!isitout | Kron22:22
ubotuKron: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.22:22
zvacet  evilbug :               add to your source list          deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/22:23
llin-ubuntuDoes anyone know how to have BOINC run on multipal linux distros and use the same project instead of each distro/partition using it's own project (and expiring)22:23
sofakoshey yu, angels of peace. Løv ju ål!22:23
|g|Anybody knows how to disable the GNU Java plugin in Firefox?22:23
sofakosi want new buntu22:23
sofakoswhere are you?22:23
lwizardlhi22:24
penguinanybody knows what is the time of 8.04 release? Cause my local time (+3 GMT) is Apr 24 01:23 :)22:24
sofakoskom on, you people!22:24
zvacetsofakos : download it tomorow22:24
simonft2i've asked this before, but i am still uncear, is it or is it not possible to install openoffice on ubuntu22:24
Seveas!isitout | sofakos22:24
ubotusofakos: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.22:24
lwizardlis there a way I can force my nvidia card to adjust for overscan on my hdtv?22:24
harryhai22:24
moonchildhey open source friends22:25
ichatoffcaurse Openoffice.org runs on ubuntu22:25
simonft2sorry22:25
Wesmokeditallanyone have any info on a pinncacle hdtv usb ? ubuntu gutsy22:25
simonft2on a ppc22:25
sofakoszvacet: why not today?22:25
simonft2with ubuntu22:25
KronWhat is the name of the company developing Ubuntu? I've forgot XD22:25
zvacetsofakos Because it is still RC22:25
SeveasKron, canonical22:25
moonchildive a simple question when i upgrade with the new dev release i can just patch up later on to the public release?22:25
Kronthanks22:25
laeg!daa22:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daa - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:25
Seveasmoonchild, yes22:25
sofakoshei moonchild open butt friend. U like me?22:26
laegdoes anyone know how i can mount a .daa file in ubuntu?22:26
notsniw__org22:26
Danikarlaeg: u have to convert it to an iso22:26
moonchildok so it wont need to download the full public release right?22:26
simonft2does anybody here know if you can run openoffice.org on a ppc with ubnuntu22:26
laegDanikar: can you recommend a method to do that?22:26
Seveasmoonchild, correct22:26
evilbugit didn't work,my pidgin still stays at v. 2.2.122:26
moonchildthanks22:27
Seveassimonft2, you can22:27
simonft2how22:27
KronCan i install 8.04 whitout having too use a cd? If i dont want to keep a shit22:27
linkmaster03How do I reload the sound drivers on Ubuntu? I am configuring my sound and I do not want to restart22:27
Seveassimonft2, install ubuntu, it comes with OOo by default22:27
simonft2Seveas: how?22:27
simonft2but not on a ppc22:27
Danikarlaeg: http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm22:27
harryanyone know if i can get win tv to work with wine on ubuntu22:27
moonchildubuntu <322:27
moonchildcya22:27
Wesmokeditallubuntu child22:27
Wesmokeditall:D22:27
Danikarlaeg: Go to poweriso for linux22:27
laegDanikar: ty22:27
zvacetevilbug : did you add line to your source list and sava it afte that?    sudo apt-get update22:27
darren_hi I am trying to have dual moniters with diffrent res on each but i only have 800x600@60 on both moniters22:28
simonft2Seveas: im on ubuntu and it does not have it installed22:28
ichatafaik there is no  ppc native build to openoffice.org22:28
Moe|Joeyo22:28
ichatYET22:28
|g|I want to use SUN-Java in Firefox instead of GNU-Java. I put a link to the sun .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ but FF still uses GNU-Java. How can I change that?22:28
evilbugzvacet- i did,nothing.22:28
Moe|Joeis there an eta for wen new ubuntu is released?22:28
RichWI have a computer called richiie-laptop... i cant ping its name... ping: unknown host richie-laptop but i can ping its IP address... I have samba server.. name server... and neither have helped to fix this.22:28
Zelta!party | Moe|Joe22:28
ubotuMoe|Joe: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties22:28
evilbugMoe|Joe- 1 day22:28
RichWAny ideas?22:28
Seveassimonft2, it came with ooo on mine - I used hardy though22:28
LardarseMoe|Joe: sometime int he next 26 hours22:28
amolI just started using Ubuntu. It works great -- the only problem is youtube videos seem to slow down in full-screen mode. Any way to fix this?22:28
Seveassimonft2, anyway, you can install it with apt-get22:28
simonft2what do you type?22:28
one_taodarren: is your video card configured or are you using a generic driver22:29
Lardarse!list openoffice22:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about list openoffice - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:29
Lardarse!info openoffice22:29
ubotuPackage openoffice does not exist in gutsy22:29
darren_using nvidia restriced driver22:29
Lardarse!info openoffice-meta22:29
ubotuPackage openoffice-meta does not exist in gutsy22:29
Seveassimonft2, actually, looks like only the core comes with it, hang on22:29
Lardarseehh... what's the package anme?22:29
KronWhich program is recommended to burn 8.04 with?22:29
Danikar!openoffice22:29
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org22:29
LardarseKron: which OS are you using?22:30
Kronguess?22:30
zvacetevilbug : I know that wored.Maybe server is down or something else. sudo apt-get upgrade         maybe22:30
KronUBUNTU22:30
CyberCodwow... 1300+ people in here!   Never seen it so full22:30
Daisuke_IdoKron, right-click on the iso in nautilus and choose to burn to disc22:30
axordNearly 140022:30
MiniToeCyberCod: can a channel really get full? :)22:30
Seveassimonft2, sudo with apt-get install openoffice.org22:30
ichatsimonft2:  -    you wanted it on  a  - powerpc  ???22:30
harryanyone know if i can get win tv to work with wine on ubuntu?22:30
Daisuke_Idowas over 1400 a bit ago22:30
simonft2yes22:30
pvalleywe are getting ready to upgrade22:31
evilbugzvacet- non of that worked,it upgraded everything BUT pidgin.22:31
CyberCodMiniToe: if the server goes down, we will have our answer ;)22:31
white_eaglecan you tell me the *EXACTLY* which packages do I need to install so opera's menus to look KDE'ish again, I removed some QT libraries and I don't know which I need to reinstall now...22:31
simonft2simon@simon-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install openoffice.org22:31
simonft2[sudo] password for simon:22:31
simonft2Reading package lists... Done22:31
simonft2Building dependency tree22:31
simonft2Reading state information... Done22:31
FloodBot2simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:31
simonft2Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package.22:31
Kronwhy nautilus?22:31
white_eaglethose someone in here told me don't exist22:31
MiniToeCyberCod: hah, yeah, i suppose :)22:31
Seveassimonft2, your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken22:31
Daisuke_IdoKron, because it's the default file manager and that's the quickest way to do it22:31
simonft2how do i fix it?22:31
LardarseKron: there is a wiki page about the software to use... i don't remember where it is22:31
Seveassimonft2, put it on the pastebin22:31
CyberCodso it goes up tonite?  Midnight?   What time zone?  My net gets shut off tomorrow22:32
james91deannite guys, party tomorrow!22:32
Kronbrasero maybe?22:32
Seveas!isitout | CyberCod22:32
ubotuCyberCod: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.22:32
simonft2ok22:32
simonft2how do i fix it?22:32
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Daisuke_Idosure, you could use brasero, but i just told you the easiest way to do it...22:32
CyberCodno news of it being late though?22:32
laeghow can i install poweriso-1.2.tar.gz22:32
KronWhy should i burn in nautilus?22:32
hacknslashKron, i agree with Daisuke_Ido22:32
simonft2how do i fix it?22:32
laegthere are no install instructions on the site22:33
Seveassimonft2, I told you, put it on the pastebin22:33
CyberCodKron, its the same iso burnt to the same blank disk... whatever makes best sense to you is easiest way22:33
Daisuke_IdoKron, because, as i just said, it's the quickest and easiest way to do it, you asked, you got an answer, why argue?22:33
simonft2put what in the paste bin?22:33
KronBut Nautilus is root?22:33
Seveassimonft2, your /etc/apt/sources.list is broken <------ that22:33
Daisuke_Idono it isn't22:33
a-vhey, it's 24th April here, expect pre-release flood soon to start :)22:33
Kronain't it?22:33
Daisuke_Idowhen you open a file manager?  that's nautilus22:33
darren_i wes thinking of installing the nvidia drivers off the nvidia sight but i can't figure how to install them22:33
one_taolaeg, start by doing: sudo tar zxf poweriso <tab> <enter>22:34
Daisuke_Ido!nautilus | Kron22:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi22:34
Daisuke_Idoblah22:34
laegone_tao: ty22:34
KronWill nautilus recommend any program for me?22:34
simonft2simon@simon-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install openoffice.org22:34
simonft2[sudo] password for simon:22:34
simonft2Reading package lists... Done22:34
simonft2Building dependency tree22:34
simonft2Reading state information... Done22:34
simonft2Package openoffice.org is not available, but is referred to by another package.22:34
FloodBot2simonft2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:34
CyberCodMan its going to be one helluva .torrent22:34
devin_anyone using firefox3 - beta 5?22:34
Daisuke_Idosimon just doesn't get it.22:34
Daisuke_IdoKron, no, it will burn it itself22:34
white_eagle!bot22:34
balgarathdevin_, yeah22:34
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:34
Kroni dont get it...22:35
one_taolaeg, then cd to the diretory that has been created and there should be a 'README' or some instructions in that new directory22:35
Daisuke_Idoput a blank disc in, open your filemanager and go to where you saved the iso, right click the iso, and choose "burn to disc"22:35
Daisuke_Idothat's all there is to it22:35
daysleeprhello all, i'm about to put an order in for a server... looking to run 6.06 LTS... i'm looking at an intel quad core processor22:35
Daisuke_Idoit's really quite simple22:35
devin_balgarath do your bookmarks show up in the address bar?22:35
Seveasdaysleepr, why not 8.04 lts?22:35
daysleeprcan't find processors on the approved hardware list, just wondering if anyone has had good/bad luck with dual/quads22:35
daysleeprhmmm... didn't see it?22:35
Baldurrognoloariciao .. :D perchè montando gli hd, non mi rimangono sulla scrivania? al riavvio non ci sono + sulla scrivania!22:35
simonft2im really sorry, i thought i copied the link22:35
mikefizzwhen i go into standby mode on my e1505 laptop i cant come back out22:35
Kronhow do i open  Nautilus?22:35
Seveasdaysleepr, it'll be released in the next 24 hours :)22:35
one_taodaysleeper, wait til tomorrow and dl 8.04 LTS22:35
pat_I have a question, when i go to windows under the preferences menu it says Window manager "compiz" has not registered a configuration tool... how can i fix that?22:35
simonft2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64142/22:36
CyberCodI've installed on a few duals, haven't had any issues22:36
simonft2is that better?22:36
daysleepri don't see 8.04LTS?22:36
iRelinquishpat_ sudo apt-get install ccsm22:36
daysleeprooooooooooh22:36
CyberCodnone of em were mine though :(22:36
pat_iRelinquish: thx22:36
Daisuke_IdoKron, go to Places.  anything in there will open Nautilus (nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu)22:36
daysleepr /tomorrow/22:36
balgarathdevin_, yeah, but lots of other sites I've been to show up in it too...it doesn't show a list of my booksmarks22:36
one_taodaysleeper - it is an 'LTS'22:36
balgarath*bookmarks22:36
zvacet   evilbug :                   download it from here ( all packages) http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=pidgin22:36
pvalleykron click on places -->home22:36
Daisuke_Idowhy do i feel like i'm running around in circles?22:36
Seveasdaysleepr, dual/quadcores work fine. As do multiple real cpu's, or multiple multicore ones :)22:36
amrikwhat does an LTS mean for a server edition?22:36
ShmooliKipodhello :)22:36
pvalleyyou will be there22:36
darren_cause we alwas do22:36
daysleeprlong term support?22:36
darren_lol22:36
one_taofirst 'LTS' in a while22:36
Daisuke_Idoamrik, it's supported for 5 years22:36
ShmooliKipodIs it out yet ?22:36
white_eagleI suppose I am being annoying for asking this the 100 time, but does no one know the answer? can you tell me the *EXACTLY* which packages do I need to install so opera's menus to look KDE'ish again, I removed some QT libraries and I don't know which I need to reinstall now...22:36
Seveassimonft2, that's not your sources.list.22:36
Kronwhat is LTS?22:37
Seveas!isitout | ShmooliKipod22:37
ubotuShmooliKipod: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.22:37
Seveas!lts | Kron22:37
ubotuKron: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.22:37
amrikOh I see22:37
Kronk22:37
guitarthrasherhey guys. quick question.22:37
Kronwhats the different between server and deskop?22:37
daysleeprwell... back to my original question, i guess.... anybody play w/ quad / duals on ubuntu?22:37
white_eagleI removed everything KDE connected yesterday, but I still want to use some apps with native QT menus in gnome22:37
SeveasKron, server doesn't come with a desktop environment :)22:37
white_eaglelike opera22:37
daysleeprduals work fine, from what i can tell22:37
daysleeprbut cant find much on quads......22:37
Seveasdaysleepr, dual/quadcores work fine. As do multiple real cpu's, or multiple multicore ones :)22:37
one_taoserver is all text22:37
hacknslashguitarthrasher, ask away22:38
simonft2where is the source list again?22:38
laegone_tao: it only extracts an .exe file, and not from the command you gave me only if i extract it from the gui.22:38
simonft2im really sorry22:38
guitarthrasherif you downloaded kde for ubuntu with the apt-get command, can you remove it with sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-desktop?22:38
daysleeprseveas, that sounds about right...22:38
KronIs it fun to use server?22:38
Starnestommysimonft2: /etc/apt/sources.list22:38
daysleeprjust didn't want to jump into a $$$$ server without double checking22:38
daysleeprso wow... a new LTS, huh?22:38
Daisuke_Idoyep22:38
daysleeprdamn, i just rebuilt a server with 6.06LTS22:38
laegone_tao: i definitely downloaded from the power iso linux version link http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm22:38
SeveasKron, depends on what you call fun. I think it's a lot of fun but I'm a professional sysadmin ;)22:38
CyberCodguitarthrasher: I think that just removes the meta package, not the individual ones22:38
one_taoguitarthrasher: isn't that atp-get 'remove' ?22:38
zvacetwhite_eagle :go in synaptic >file tab>history and you will find all packages you removed22:39
gonzoAlguien habla español?22:39
guitarthrasherone_tao: i think so.22:39
Seveas!es | gonzo22:39
ubotugonzo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.22:39
guitarthrashercybercod: will it remove KDE though?22:39
frielquick question, how do i make applications start on login?22:39
one_taoer. apt-get remove <packagename>22:39
Seveasguitarthrasher, if you do 'apt get autoremove' afterwards it will. Or you can use debfoster22:39
CyberCoddon't think so22:39
ssamsimonft2, you can get ooo on powerpc22:39
hacknslashguitarthrasher, sudo apt-get purge packagename22:39
stroyandaysleepr:  A server from system76.com would be a safe choice for compatibility.22:40
ShmooliKipodfriel: Go to session manager22:40
guitarthrasherokay.22:40
KronWhats the clock at ur place?22:40
guitarthrasheri'll try that.22:40
simonft2http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64143/22:40
guitarthrasherthanks!22:40
guitarthrasheri'll let you know how it goes.22:40
FloodBot2guitarthrasher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:40
ssamsimonft2, i have to go now, but if you are still having trouble post in the powerpc section on the forums.22:40
simonft2ok22:40
Seveassimonft2, no wonder you can't install anything. You didn't enable any repos22:40
simonft2lol22:41
simonft2im new to this22:41
frielshmoolikipod: where's that at. don't see it under pref or admin22:41
Seveasssam, neh, his problem is unrelated to powerpc :)22:41
CyberCodsimonft2: we all are at some point  don't feel bad22:41
Seveassimonft2, system -> admin -> software sources. Tick all on the first tab22:41
ShmooliKipodfriel:  I m looking for you a sguide22:41
frielshmoolikipod: n/m thanks.22:41
daysleeprlooking to have the build done by silicon mechanics, actually22:41
frielshmoolikipod: found it now, thanks :)22:41
simonft2ok22:42
KronDay after tomorrow is the the year day of when i first met Ubuntu22:42
ShmooliKipod^^ friel22:42
CyberCodKron: first install? or first time you heard the word?22:42
kelvin911anyone know how to get the wine menu back if i delete it manually in main menu?22:42
guitarthrasherokay, KDE is gone, but the applications are still there.22:42
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KronI tried it out a couple of day later22:42
guitarthrasherany quick way to get rid of it?22:43
Kronthe first time i heard the word, i think22:43
laegcan someone help me install poweriso? the tar just extracted an unknown filetype to my desktop22:43
totocoolhi all can u tell me where to find the logfiles of nautilus22:43
totocool?22:43
zvacetguitarthrasher : try remove them from main menu22:43
guitarthrasherokay.22:43
KronBut i installed Ubuntu the first time about a month ago22:43
Marfilol22:43
beniaminohow can i remove all of kde after mistakenly installing kde-desktop on my ubuntu system?22:44
KronAnd im 14 now :D22:44
stroyankelvin911:  The alacarte program will edit menus.22:44
roglydoes anybody know where to download themes for Hardy heron?22:44
KronMy birthday is the 7 april22:44
kelvin911i know how to edit menu22:44
guitarthrasherhow do i get them off of my computer though?22:44
kelvin911but i want to have the menu that wine install the first time22:44
KronRogly: Ever tried out google.com?22:44
guitarthrasheri dont want to just remove them from the menu22:45
roglyyes22:45
KronDo it again then22:45
roglyno need to be rude...22:45
one_taoKron, watch out! your family is going to expect a lot from you, now that you've shown yourself to be a 'Kid-Genius' !!22:45
Kronim not rude :P22:45
Seven_Six_Twototocool, is it crashing? it might leave a file in your home dir22:45
roglythat was pretty rude imo22:45
Seveasit was22:45
KronWhy should i be a Kid-Genius? :p22:46
kelvin911i dont like people tell other to google their problem22:46
tretlewhat timezone is the countdown refering to22:46
brynjolfgnome-look.org rogly22:46
kelvin911most people come here to ask because they cant find solution in google22:46
Seveastretle, martian time22:46
brynjolffor example22:46
kelvin911or man22:46
totocoolSeven_Six_Two:  yes ,but hte nautilus_dbg.log file is empty22:46
evilbugcan anyone recommend a media player for ubuntu aside from xmms,mplayer,vlc,and amarok?22:46
one_taokron, 14 and installed Ubuntu ?  yeah, you're the one :)22:46
Seveasevilbug, bmpx22:46
roglysee I went there bryn, and when I download a theme it tells me that it isnt a vaild theme filetype22:46
Ravennhow do i get my windows driver off my cd?22:46
SeveasRavenn, ##windows for windows support22:46
be1hi guys22:46
Ravennwell its ubuntu im on22:47
one_taobe1, what's up?22:47
KronWhen did u get ubuntu?22:47
brynjolfjust download the tar.gz and then press install, didnt work?22:47
Ravenni just need the windows driver to run with ndiswrapper22:47
roglyill try now22:47
Ravennand im confused22:47
roglyi was extracting XD22:47
be1not much,having trouble with visual effects tho22:47
Seveas!ndiswrapper | Ravenn22:47
ubotuRavenn: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:47
laegone_tao: did you get my message? there is no readme file, just an unrecognised filetype called 'poweriso'22:47
Kronomg, gotta sleep really soon. It's 23.4722:47
Ravennthe file would be .inf?22:47
brynjolfhehe yeah it only takes the tar.gz if you press the install thingie, otherwise just extract it to ~/.themes/22:48
Seven_Six_TwoRavenn, the cab files are compressed. Ark and it's dependencies should be able to extract them.22:48
SeveasKron, this is a support channel. Cut the offtopic talk please22:48
one_taobe1, do you have the hardware to run it?22:48
roglyok thanks ill try that now22:48
evilbugSeveas- anything else?22:48
CyberCodphew!  close one... thought they cut my net there for a sec22:48
KronI like offtopic talk :D22:48
be1i think so, ati x1250 ??22:48
Kron Why do u think it exist a forum?22:48
Seveasevilbug, rhythmbox, totem, listen, mplayer, gmplaer, smplayer22:48
bdHi can someone help the update manager?22:48
CyberCodbd: what does the update manager need help with?22:49
KronWhy do i leave all the time22:49
MrBillcan anyone tell me what command I type to turn line numbers on in vim?22:49
simonft2Seveas: im done22:49
bdit says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.22:49
* no37 22:49
frielnewb question, what's the ubuntu version of alt tab?22:49
daysleeprthanks all!22:49
SeveasMrBill, :set number22:49
* CyberCod hates vim vi emacs and all that crap22:49
spgkfriel, the same22:50
MrBillthank you Seveas22:50
Seveasfriel, alt tab22:50
KronWe should get a funchat, instead of all this boring asking22:50
SeveasKron, #ubuntu-release-party or #ubuntu-offtopic22:50
be1tao, i have enabled the restricted drivers but i get an error msg: The Composite extension is not available22:50
Seveasnow don't make me kick you again22:50
Kronnice22:50
Kronor what about "Ubuntu-Fun22:50
evilbugSeveas- thanks!22:51
Ravenn_so how do i get them off my cd and into .inf format?22:51
zvacetbeniamino  :  http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/puregnome   read remove Kubuntu22:51
friel: / it doesn't work when i have some full screen apps running22:51
simonft2Seveas: what now?22:51
beniaminozvacet: thanks, having a look now22:51
Seveassimonft2, click ok, install openoffice22:51
one_taobe1, looke here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=275162722:51
KronCant u speak swedish... It'll make it easier to read.22:51
CyberCodfor good fun chat with other linux users, try #linuxactionshow or #lugradio22:51
MrBillwhat is the difference functionally between "sudo su" and "sudo -i"22:52
be1thanks tao :)22:52
simonft2 Seveas: click ok where?22:52
tonyyarussoMrBill: I believe it involves environment variables, but I'm not 100% clear either.22:52
sahakcan't wait for Ubuntu 8.0422:52
one_taobe1, it's worth it, so keep after it. We'll help you.22:52
evilbugsahak- me neither :D :D :D22:53
chaquihi everyone22:53
chaqui:-)22:53
MrBillwhen i've needed to be root i've always just "sudo su" and it's done the job, following a walkthrough for installing snort and it's advising me to "sudo -i"22:53
simonft2never mind22:53
Seveastonyyarusso, $HOME and $USER to be precise. And being a loginshell (so sourcing ~/.bash_login insteadof ~/.bashrc)22:53
KronSahak: U dont have to wait22:53
Ravenn_/echo hi22:53
tonyyarussoMrBill: See ^^.  (Yes, sudo -i is recommended)22:53
MrBillkk22:53
Kronuse "update-manager -d"22:53
MrBillis there ever a time when 'sudo su' is better than 'sudo -i' or should i just be in the habit of using -i any and all times that I wanna become root?22:54
Kronthe u wont have to wait22:54
tonyyarussoKron: don't recommend that to people who don't understand the consequences...22:54
simonft2Seveas thank you so much. it seems to be working now22:54
simonft2sorry for all the touble22:54
tonyyarussoMrBill: habit should be sudo always in Ubuntu22:54
SeveasMrBill, always use -i. Haven't yet found something where it's better not to22:54
MrBillok, thanks22:54
KronSure.22:54
Seveassimonft2, np, glad it works :)22:54
chaquiwho can help me with ndiswrapper?22:54
chaqui:-(22:54
Morph3ushi.. i speak spanish.. so.. it's safe remove "language-support-en" ?????22:55
KronMy computer got screwed up the last time i used update... I had to reinstall22:55
T-Hawkhey... anybody got experience with NFS?22:55
CyberCodchaqui: you using the command line? or graphical?22:55
SeveasMorph3us, yes22:55
chaquikinda both22:55
Seveas!anyone | T-Hawk22:55
chaquiim up against a belkin wireless card22:55
Morph3usSeveas, absolutely sure? :D22:55
ubotuT-Hawk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:55
bdhow do I run dpkg --configure -a?22:55
SeveasMorph3us, yeah. I speak english and don't have it installed :)22:55
chaquiive found help for it but it didn't seem to work for the 64bit architecture22:55
extorIs there much difference between debian testing and ubuntu? Just curious what frills they added22:56
Seveasbd, open a terminal, type this: sudo dpkg --configure -a22:56
tonyyarussoextor: why not try both and see?  :)22:56
Morph3usSeveas, WTF !!! Well.. removing.. Thanks man! :D22:56
CyberCodchaqui     check IM22:56
simmerzanyone know what time tomorrow heron is being released?22:56
zvacet          MrBill :                             https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:56
extortony yeah just wanted peoples input before22:56
tonyyarussosimmerz: #ubuntu-release-party (and no, there is no time)22:56
T-Hawkright... i've got a NFS export setup like this: /var/www 192.168.0.0/24(rw,sync,subtree_check) , i can mount it fine, and the files are owned by the same user, but when i try to change anything, even just a touch foo i get "Read only filesystem"22:57
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SeveasT-Hawk, is it writable on the host itself?22:57
T-HawkSeveas, yes22:57
SeveasT-Hawk, did you mount it read-write?22:57
bdthank you very much22:57
T-HawkSeveas, i didn't do either, rw should be default according to man nfs22:57
SeveasT-Hawk, I thought so too, check the output of mount to be sure22:58
CyberCodrw by default doesn't sound "linuxy"22:58
chaquicybercod: IM22:58
SeveasCyberCod, why not?22:58
academyI'm currently trying to pick a final year project for the final year of my comp sci degree.  Does anyone have any suggestions, particularly involving open source software?22:58
T-HawkSeveas, nfsd on /proc/fs/nfs type nfsd (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)22:58
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Seveasacademy, this is a support channel, not a discussion channel22:59
tonyyarussoacademy: try in #ubuntu-offtopic22:59
SeveasT-Hawk, that's not the nfs mount :)22:59
CyberCodchaqui: not seeing anything22:59
chaquino?22:59
chaquiHM.22:59
kingvso 804 comes out tonight at midnight us central time??22:59
harryso what do i do now22:59
jac0bis there a reason some packages are not available for hardy22:59
academySeveas/tonyyarusso: sorry - ok22:59
MiniToeroot@durdserv:~# do-release-upgrade22:59
MiniToeChecking for a new ubuntu release22:59
MiniToeNo new release found22:59
Seveas!isitout | kingv22:59
ubotukingv: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.22:59
CyberCodSeveas:  Because defaulting to rw doesn't seem essentially secure.22:59
academy.leave22:59
MiniToewrong window :/22:59
T-HawkSeveas, right... stupid me...22:59
chaquicybercod: how about now?22:59
pat_Hey i installed hardy with wubi and the firt time i booted i saw my windows partition but now i cant find it :-/23:00
dethstarlater all23:00
SeveasCyberCod, this rw is whether the filesystem is writable, it's not about filepermissions23:00
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tonyyarussopat_: #ubuntu+1 for development version discussion.23:00
T-HawkSeveas, hehe nvm... seems the issue has vanished as i did a umount /mnt/www; mount /mnt/www :P23:00
SeveasT-Hawk, hah :)23:00
KronUBUNTU 8.02 WILL AIR WHEN IT'S DONE!23:00
chaquicybercod: i recieved your message, but it appears you havent got mine23:00
CyberCodSeveas, yes I understand that23:00
SeveasKron, nope, ubuntu 8.02 will never air. It's 8.04, and this is your last warning -- behave in here23:01
miliaKron, guess many people have buzzed you asking questions huh :X23:01
luka_hi guys23:01
miliaon 'when'23:01
Kroni meant 8.0423:01
* CyberCod hates NFS sharing for exactly these kinds of reasons23:01
moralisthmm... my clock is tomorrow now23:01
luka_my synaptics touchpad is not wirking23:01
luka_seems like a glitch with the driver23:01
ingramFlashluka_: Hack the source.23:01
luka_is there any way to verify that the driver is loaded23:01
KronWhy do i have warnings?23:01
timsandtomsIs there going to be anything different from todays 8.04 vs. after its officially released? Or would just running the update manager bring it up to date?23:01
zvacetmoralist : so,you are living in future23:02
Webfunmy clock also says 0:00 :p23:02
SeveasKron, because you keep misbehaving23:02
Seveas!guidelines | Kron23:02
ubotuKron: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines23:02
kingvubotu, when does it usually realese?23:02
luka_no skils for that my man23:02
KronIm not misbehaving....23:02
miliaSeveas, I guess there's no problem downloading the release candidate and then updating/upgrading the programms i've installed right ?23:02
Seveas!isitout | Webfun kingv23:02
ubotuWebfun kingv: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.23:02
moralistzvacet: something like that :)23:02
Seveasmilia, correct23:02
chaquicybercod i guess we can't chat?23:02
T-Hawkokay now this is odd... according to mount /mnt/www isn't mounted anymore, but ls returns the updated file listing, and i can touch files that show up remotely as well :O23:02
miliathat's great, thanx a lot :).23:02
Webfunty ubotu23:03
zvacetmoralist : 8-)23:03
SeveasT-Hawk, funky23:03
luka_is there a way to check if synaptics driver is loaded in xorg ?23:03
CyberCodchaqui: what client are you using?23:03
T-HawkSeveas, and mount /mnt/www says it's already mounted :O23:03
pschorfI'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works23:03
KronGotta sleep now... U should do the same Seveas, u seems a little bit angry ;)23:03
T-Hawkumount www23:03
T-Hawkumount: /mnt/www is not mounted (according to mtab)23:03
T-Hawkthawk@laptop /mnt $ mount www23:03
T-Hawkmount.nfs: /mnt/www is already mounted or busy23:03
FloodBot2T-Hawk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.23:03
chaquipidgin23:03
kkskakdhi, can i recover a deleted partition?23:03
kingvSeveas, when does it usually get released. what time?23:03
milialuka_, grep synaptics /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or open xorg.conf with your editor and look23:03
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chaquiwell, the issue is that in ndswrapper grapical its showing that the hardware is present, and the driver is installed23:04
Seveaskingv, didn't you see what ubotu just wrote?23:04
CyberCodchaqui: yeah, do go on23:04
lukamilia: the lines are there23:04
KronWhere's my good night good bye?23:04
lukamilia: the driver pachage is loaded23:04
chaquii installed it from the CD23:04
kingvSeveas, yeah i did and it says nothing. when was the last final release released?23:04
lukabut the touchpad is just not working23:05
chaquiive also tried diffrent online sources23:05
CyberCodyou modprobed it?23:05
lukamilia: perhaps it can be disabled by some key combination23:05
chaquii think?23:05
chaquiim not positive23:05
milialuka, have you tried qsynaptics ?23:05
Seveaskingv, it says exactly what I'll say: we don't know when it'll be released23:05
CyberCodmakes a big difference23:05
T-HawkSeveas, http://pastebin.org/3161323:05
miliabut it's not working you say..23:05
chaquiwhat does modprobe do?23:05
lukamilia: gsynaptics23:05
Kronsee yah23:05
GInhi, how to schedule a shutdown?23:05
lukacomplains about SHMConfig23:06
Starnestommychaqui: it loads and unloads kernel modules23:06
CyberCoddon't quote me.... but I believe it makes it so that the kernel sees it23:06
lukaI added Option SHMConfig "on"23:06
CyberCodyeah, what he said23:06
Seven_Six_TwoGIn, one at a time, or on a shedule?23:06
chaquiok how do i modprobe it?23:06
lukato synaptics section in xorg.conf23:06
be1I'm trying to follow the instructions for enabling xgl on my ati video card but get an error when trying to add the beryl repo... any ideas?23:06
pschorfI'm having a problem with gcc...if I run "gcc 1-1.c", it doesn't use my CFLAGS, but if I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c", it works23:06
kkskakdanybody know's how to recover a deleted partition?23:06
milialuka, do you have a line InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"  in the Section "ServerLayout" ?23:06
kingvSeveas, yeah thanks :) that's what i got out of the msg too. i just thought someone would know :S23:06
lukayes23:06
timsandtomsIs there going to be anything different from todays 8.04 vs. after its officially released? Or should I wait till tomorrow to make my CD for it?23:06
SeveasT-Hawk, is /etc/mtab not a symlink to /proc/mounts in your system23:06
lukaI just moved it higher23:06
GInSeven_Six_Two: I wnat ti shutdown over 10 minutes, only today23:06
lukaa few lines a few minutes ago23:06
T-HawkSeveas, no23:07
lukathought maybee some of the other dirvers are messing it up23:07
CyberCodsudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper      I think23:07
CyberCodbeen a little while23:07
T-HawkSeveas, should it be? it's a gentoo system locally23:07
milialuka, why don't you pastebin your xorg.conf to take a look at it ?:)23:07
lukait's a bit of a problem without mouse :)23:07
Seven_Six_TwoGIn, shutdown -h  60023:07
lukahehehe23:07
SeveasT-Hawk, is the mount listed in /proc/mtab?23:07
miliaups soz23:07
CyberCodor you could also do       lsmod | grep ndis    to see if the ndiswrapper modules are already loaded23:07
miliathought you had some kind of mouse23:08
chaquiinvalid option23:08
T-HawkSeveas, no... but this has never been an issue before23:08
Seven_Six_TwoGIn, sudo shutdown -h 60023:08
lukamilia: mouse does not work either when plugged into ps/223:08
SeveasT-Hawk, well, it should be listed there, weird things are going on there23:08
thebighamI have an extremely serious problem here =(23:08
ptn107timsandtoms: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76339423:08
thebighammy internet is very slow23:08
SeveasT-Hawk, may I suggest a windows solution (reboot)23:08
chaquipossible sudo modprobe -a ndiswrapper23:09
chaqui?23:09
thebighamand alot of times i cant even cinnect to the internet23:09
quittt why my other partitions do not appear on the desktop, since they're mounted???? I'm on XFCE23:09
CyberCodthat sounds right23:09
thebighamcan anyone here help me with this problem?23:09
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CyberCodits been a long while23:09
chaquiit didn't really do anything23:09
lukamilia: just tried to plug my working mouse from desktop23:09
milialuka, is xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed in your system ? you can look for it using sudo aptitude search package23:09
lukainto my laptop and it isn't working either23:09
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, your isp can help you with that23:09
lukalet me check23:09
saftsackhi, netstat shows me an23:09
CyberCodno output?23:09
chaquino23:09
chaquinothing23:09
chaquinext line23:10
thebighamseven_six_two:no its not my internet's problem23:10
CyberCodit worked then I think23:10
thebighamits ubuntu23:10
RichWthebigham: Right click on the wireless icon in the tray.. go to connection information and tell me what driver your running.23:10
be1Anyone got any experience with XGL?23:10
saftsackhi, netstat shows me an open port now i want to know from which program the port was opened.23:10
CyberCoddo    lsmod | grep ndis23:10
T-HawkSeveas, you tell me no :P any ideas on how to get /etc/mtab updated? since it seems it's actualy mounted23:10
Starnestommysaftsack: netstat -alp23:10
saftsackStarnestommy, thx23:10
lukamilia. dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg.input reports it as installed23:10
Seven_Six_Twotheaber, with a browser? p2p? voip? youtube?23:10
chaquiok, i gt output23:10
kkskakdi tried testdisk , i did search for partitons, didn't find the one i was looking for (a ntfs i had before installing ubuntu ), then advanced search and it found it flagged with D (deleted) i did P(list files) but it says it's corrupt, is there any way to restore that partition?23:10
CyberCodok.... iwconfig23:10
thebighamrichw: it didnt say anythign about the driver23:11
thebighamrichw: its Driver: BLANK23:11
RichWthebigham: Are you not connected?23:11
chaquilo no wireless extensions23:11
Prefixwhats the thing i stick after making a lancher for a program that means i can like drag stuff onto it and it opens with that program?23:11
thebighami am connected right now23:11
chaquiand etho no wirless extentions23:11
thebighamhow come the speed says 1mb/s?23:11
lukamilia: this is an ancient gericom webboy at 700MHz23:11
RichWthebigham: USB or PCI?23:11
CyberCodnothing else?23:11
chaquinothing else.23:11
lukait might be that it just malfunctioned23:11
milialuka, run out of ideas :X23:12
CyberCodhmmm23:12
matt444hi.  when i navigate to a shared folder in nautilus, it says "you must log in to view" message.  i use the samba password i created.  but it doesn't work.  what do i do?23:12
thebighamRichW: i'm on the laptop, so ..23:12
CyberCodndswrapper -l23:12
chaquibut it shows the hardware through the gui of ndiswrapper23:12
RichWthebigham: Built into the laptop?23:12
CyberCodscrew the gui23:12
thebighamyes23:12
lukamilia: me too23:12
CyberCodit is not reliable23:12
CyberCodactually remove it via the gui23:12
timsandtomsptn107: Ah, dang, thanks. looks like ill install tomorrow23:12
chaquiblkwgdv7 : driver installed23:12
chaqui        device (1799:700F) present23:12
RichWthebigham: Can you open a terminal and put the results into a pastebin?23:12
chaquiok, removed23:12
RichW!pastebin | thebigham23:13
ubotuthebigham: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:13
CyberCodlemme look up my notes real quick, as I said it has been a while23:13
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, output from ifconfig/iwconfig?23:13
pschorfI've set my CFLAGS to "-g -Wall -pedantic", but if I run "gcc 1-1.c" it doesn't catch errors that -Wall normally does unless I type "gcc $CFLAGS 1-1.c"23:13
thebighamrichw: you lost me there23:13
helluesyavuz cetin cheeroke23:13
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matt444hi.  when i navigate to a shared folder in nautilus, it says "you must log in to view" message.  i use the samba password i created.  but it doesn't work.  what do i do?23:14
athemanyone able to help me teach my computer to power off after shutdown?23:14
RichWthebigham: Sorry my bad, Applications --> accessories --> terminal. Type lspci and press the enter key and then put results into pastebin.23:15
wouterwhere's Ubanto 8.04?23:15
thebighamrichw:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64145/23:15
tonyyarussowouter: #ubuntu-release-party please23:15
dwidmannWith nfs, if you export say, /nfs/blah, on the guest machine could you mount something like say, /nfs/blah/bleh even the /nfs/blah/bleh wasn't explicitly exported and /nfs/blah was?23:15
RichW!hardy | wouter23:15
ubotuwouter: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!23:15
kkskakdhelooo23:15
Seveas!isitout | wouter23:16
ubotuwouter: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.23:16
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, how much slower than your provisioned speed is it? All protocols?23:16
kkskakdcan i recover an ntfs partition after installing ubuntu?23:16
kkskakdover it23:16
extorIf I do a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda will that for sure to a zero write on every single part of my hdd or is there a chance it may leave some area untouched, which may potentially have part of a rootkit?23:16
evilbuganyone here have bandwith issues when updating your system?the last couple of days for me have been bad with this,my dl speed is only up to about 70k when it's supposed to be about 1mb...23:16
woutertonyyarusso: thx23:16
helluesrise against state of union23:16
dwidmannextor: yeah, that'll nuke everything23:16
RichWthebigham: That is the output of ifconfig and not lspci.. try again!23:17
extoryou sure there is nothing BEHIND byte 0 on the hdd? That you need special commands to get to?23:17
Seven_Six_Twoextor, it's safer to put random bits if you're trying to hide something23:17
extorIm trying to erase, not hide23:17
dwidmannSeven_Six_Two: that's also much slower if all you want to do is make a clean slate23:18
CyberCodchaqui:  you still there?23:18
chaquiYEAH23:18
chaquieep.23:18
chaquisorry23:18
CyberCodk23:18
thebighamseven_six_two: after taken the speed test, its 5mb/s , and the connection is 10mb/s. And i can barely connect most of the time23:18
gaspipe1hey people23:18
CyberCodnav your terminal to the directory where your drivers are23:18
chaquiim so bad in terminal.23:18
chaquils to change?23:18
Seven_Six_Twoextor, thebigham how far are you from an ap?23:19
CyberCodcd23:19
thebighamrichw:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64146/23:19
lwizardlanyone know how to correct overscan with nvidia cards23:19
lwizardl?23:19
CyberCodeasiest if you move your drivers to an easy place first using nautilus....23:19
dassoukihow can i get my dual screen to work? I was embarrassed at a presentation today. and i don't want to be embarrassed again tomorrow23:19
thebighamseven_six_two: the router is located ont he 1st floor and i'm on the 3rd floor. But when i log into vista, the connection is perfectly fine.23:19
amrikHi I have a question about grub23:19
rhombusSo, how can I get the ubuntu mysql server to listen on all interfaces?23:19
chaquithey are on CD23:20
chaquisoo...23:20
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, ok. do you know the wireless chipset?23:20
CyberCodcopy them to a folder on the drive23:20
amrikI tried restoring grub23:20
Seveasrhombus, edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf23:20
rhombusI've removed bind-address and skip-networking from the my.cnf file, as per MySQL docs, and it's still only listening on the loopback interface23:20
CyberCodsomething like /home/<user>/WIFI23:20
amrikbut now, it seems that every time I boot, I get to a grub shell. I have to manually type "kernel etc" to boot23:20
amrikI don't think I have a menu.lst file in /boot/grub23:20
rhombusSeveas: something is clobbering something somewhere23:20
Starnestommyrhombus: look for the bind-address parameter in /etc/mysql/my.cnf23:20
thebighamseven_six_two: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64146/  does that tells what chipset i'm using?23:21
lwizardlrhombus, did you restart mysql?23:21
TolgaKhaving problem with screenlets-manager, I click it once and it constantly opens new manager windows indefinitely23:21
Seveasrhombus, bind-address 0.0.0.0 should work23:21
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, nm I found that just now. thanks. what about ifconfig && iwconfig?23:21
rhombusSeveas: tried that too, it doesn't23:21
chaquiok i put them in home23:21
chaquiand im in home23:21
chaquisoo.23:21
CyberCodso23:21
CyberCodyou know the name of the inf file right?23:22
chaquiyeah23:22
rhombuslwizardl: yeah23:22
chaquii put two in there23:22
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chaquiones labeled x6423:22
CyberCodsudo ndiswrapper -i filename.inf23:22
chaquiand the other is xp23:22
Mecha25Looking for info on any ATI Radeon Xorg driver problems that are being worked on in 8.4.  Anybody knowledgeable about this?23:22
TolgaKanyone know how to completely removes screenlets-manager?23:23
thebighamseven_six_two:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64147/23:23
hanophix33I am trying to hook up a monitor to my ibm laptop but it only shows half of the desktop and its zoomed in23:23
dassoukican anyone help me with dual screen on gnome with nvidia driver23:23
Seveasrhombus, odd, works fine for me23:23
Seveasfif you restart mysql completely after editing my.cnf?23:23
rhombusSeveas: i'll try restarting it again23:23
CyberCodanything?23:23
chaquicybercod it says driver is already installed23:24
CyberCodok23:24
CyberCodndiswrapper -l23:24
rhombusSeveas: okay, now it takes. I've been restarting with webmin. this time I did it from the command line. Webmin clearly not reliable for this purpose23:24
rhombus:P23:24
CyberCodthats an L23:24
quaddisorry to bother, but is this the place to ask for some ufw (uncomplicated firewall) help?23:24
chaquiblkwgdv7 : invalid driver!23:24
amrikNevermind I figured out what was wrong, I ran update-grub to fix my menu.lst23:25
hvgotcodeshey guys how do i discover what ports on my machine are open?23:25
Seveasrhombus, webmin sucks. If you want a webbased thing, try ebox instead of that pile of security holes23:25
Mecha25for that matter, is there a ubuntu tech support chat I could find? or is this it.  I'd hate to spam with obscure driver questions23:25
* InvisiblePinkUni sits silently here.23:25
rhombusSeveas: ebox? I'm all ears -- where?23:25
Starnestommyhvgotcodes: nmap -al or nmap localhost23:25
Seveashvgotcodes, netstat -ltun23:25
CyberCodhvgotcodes: I used the Network tools and do a port scan of 127.0.0.123:25
quaddisorry to bother, but is this the place to ask for some ufw (uncomplicated firewall) help?23:25
CyberCodchaqui: ok, try the other one23:25
CyberCodand sometimes it is not the file you think23:26
Seveasquaddi, you can ask but given that it's new in hardy not many people will be able to answer23:26
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rhombusSeveas: it looks immature :(23:26
CyberCodchaqui: what card is it?23:26
hvgotcodes9050, 8118,  32768, 68, 535323:26
hvgotcodesshould i close any of those and if so how?23:26
quaddiI opened some ports to host some games, but when I try to it fails, Nmap tells me the specified ports are closed23:26
Mecha25anybody here running ATI Radeon Xpress 1100 series?  If so, I have a driver question23:26
* cesare is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)23:26
quaddii used ufw allow ***enter port here***23:26
cesaredistro[Debian lenny/sid]23:27
InvisiblePinkUniI need an irc-op to help me here.23:27
matt444i can't access my network in nautilus.  it asks for a password.  what is the problem?23:27
chaquioh boy23:27
chaquiare you ready?23:27
CyberCodsure23:27
chaquiinstalling blkwgdx64v7 ...23:27
chaquicouldn't find "BLKWGDx64v7.sys" in "."; make sure all driver files, including .inf, .sys (and any firmware files) are in "." -23:27
chaquiinstallation may be incomplete23:27
chaquicouldn't find "BLKWGDx64v7.sys" in "."; make sure all driver files, including .inf, .sys (and any firmware files) are in "." -23:27
chaquiinstallation may be incomplete23:27
FloodBot2chaqui: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.23:27
beautifulsnowInvisiblePinkUni: you  might want to join #freenode and ask there. that's where the ops hang out?23:27
beautifulsnow!flood | chaqui23:28
ubotuchaqui: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)23:28
InvisiblePinkUnibeautifulsnow: No, I meant channel ops. of #ubuntu-release-party.23:28
CyberCoddid you copy all the files from the CD?23:28
StarnestommyInvisiblePinkUni: try #ubuntu-irc23:28
quaddiI opened some ports to host some games, but when I try to it fails, Nmap tells me the specified ports are closed23:28
Seven_Six_Twothebigham, and lsmod?23:28
beni_fhaha awesome, when will heron be released?23:28
InvisiblePinkUniStarnestommy: thank you.23:28
chaquino, just the inf file23:28
Starnestommybeni_f: tomorrow23:28
SeveasInvisiblePinkUni, do you really want to be banned everywhere?23:28
cesaredistro[Ubuntu "hardy" 8.04]23:28
quaddiufw status tells me my policy is set to allow23:28
beautifulsnowbeni_f:  *some* time tomorrow23:28
CyberCodchaqui, copy the entire drivers folder23:28
beni_fwhat timezone are you? we got 24th now :o)23:28
timelostcan anybody tell me what command the ubuntu installer runs to initially set up your xorg.conf ?23:28
SeveasInvisiblePinkUni, your question was answered in #ubuntu-ops, just be patient23:28
CyberCodjust to be sure23:28
InvisiblePinkUniSeveas: Why? I was politely requesting I join back. It's been 30 mins.23:28
CyberCodand try again23:28
chrigu_chhow can I kill all .XXX files in my home dir?23:29
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Starnestommyquaddi: are any programs opened that listen on those ports?23:29
beni_ftimelost, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:29
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quaddinot right now23:29
timelostno, that's not it23:29
CyberCodchaqui... I'm going to grab a smoke... back in 523:29
Mecha25again, anybody with ATI Radeon help?23:29
beautifulsnowbeni_f:  if you go to the website it says ONe DAY LEFT. So it's tomorrow for ALL of us regardless of where we are23:29
beni_ftimelost, thats it23:29
beni_f:P23:29
timelostthat doesn't generate the same kind of xorg.conf23:29
chaquiok23:29
beautifulsnowwow what a !@#*^&#$.23:29
CyberCodMecha25: I will try to help after I'm done with chaqui...23:29
SeveasInvisiblePinkUni, bans rarely last for less than a day23:29
Mecha25thanks a ton, I can wait23:29
InvisiblePinkUniSeveas: Some admin told me wait 10 mins. But I waited 25 mins or so. Thats why I am asking.23:29
Starnestommyquaddi: that's why it's reporting those ports as closed23:29
quaddibut the program still wont let me host23:30
InvisiblePinkUniSeveas: Oh, ok. I didn't know that. They told me it's 10 mins. Thats why I was asking.23:30
ZeltaI got banned from #debian from asking when "Debian 1.0" comes out XD23:30
thebighamseven_six_two:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64149/23:30
timelosti've been running linux for almost 10 years...i know how to use dpkg-reconfigure23:30
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timelostthat can't possibly be the command ubuntu runs when it's initially installed23:30
chaquicybercod: installing blkwgdx64v7 ...23:31
chaquiit worked23:31
thebighamHow can i get firefox 2 working on ubuntu 8.04. After installing firefox 2, i cant seem to install any extensions at all.23:31
Seveastimelost, dpkg-reconfigure and dpkg run the postinst and config scripts with slightly different arguments23:31
Mecha25theBigham, did you try installing them from within firefox itself?23:32
thebighamMecha25:thats what i did23:32
quaddiI opened some ports to host some games, but when I try to it fails, Nmap tells me the specified ports are closed23:32
Mecha25hm... odd.  I'm here for help myself, I don't really know much, thought I'd throw my 2c in, good luck though23:32
timelostthat sounds painful23:33
InvisiblePinkUniSeveas: Can I /msg you something?23:33
SeveasInvisiblePinkUni, as long as it's not profanities, sure23:33
therealnanotubeSeveas: haha that was a good one :)23:34
timelosti realized dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg wasn't the right way to restore xorg.conf when my desktop ran like muddy pondwater23:34
* el_ruso says Hi to everybody23:34
vix85hi guys :) I see it's possible now to download Ubuntu 8.04 release candidate, is that the official version, or a test version?23:34
Starnestommyvix85: still a test23:35
timelosti'm using the ati driver that ubuntu was using to begin with so there must be something else....23:35
Seveasvix85, the release candidate was released last friday23:35
Seveasit's not the final release23:35
cygokuHi ppl, I installed Hardy Heron RC over a WindowsXP and now I am encountering problems, any people wishes to try to help me out ?23:35
el_rusovix85 it's a test version23:35
vix85okay.. thnx for answers.23:35
vix85then I wait23:35
athemLupusE: also ich bekomme da mehrere felhermeldungden meines network managers23:35
tepowitać23:36
athemups sorry, wrong channel )23:36
quaddisorry to bother, but is this the place to ask for some ufw (uncomplicated firewall) help?23:36
Mecha25CyberCod: is chaqui's stuff figured out?23:37
el_rusocygoku tell us what kind of problems?23:37
matt444i can't access my network in nautilus.  it asks for a password.  what is the problem?23:37
Seveasquaddi, you can ask but given that it's new in hardy not many people will be able to answer23:37
tebye23:37
UBUNTUJAY123whats the edit command in xubuntu23:37
SeveasUBUNTUJAY123, xfedit?23:37
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Dh08Hi, what would be the best burning software for Hardy?23:37
cygokuel_ruso : 1st problem, i can still windows drives Letter (C and D)23:37
UBUNTUJAY123not found23:38
cygokuel_ruso : they are unuseable23:38
quaddiwell i allowed a certain port and ufw status tells me that its allowed anywhere, but nmap tells me the port is closed, and im still not able to host games23:38
CyberCodchaqui: I"m back23:38
UBUNTUJAY123command not found xfedit23:38
CyberCoddid you get it to install?23:38
SeveasUBUNTUJAY123, then I don't know :) ask in #xubuntu perhaps23:38
chaquino23:38
Mecha25yeah, the drivers are installed, but I have a rather specific problem23:38
Fujitsuquaddi: ufw is only in Hardy - you might want #ubuntu+123:38
quadditank you23:38
chaquiwait23:38
chaquiyes23:38
Dh08Hi, what would be the best burning software for Hardy?23:38
chaquiits installed23:38
CyberCodMecha25: just a minute23:38
cygoku...23:39
dwidmannDh08: k3b :)23:39
FujitsuDh08: Depends what you want to do. Try #ubuntu+1.23:39
CyberCodchaqui: does it show up in iwconfig?23:39
el_rusocygoku are you sure you made correctly your particions?23:39
chaquino23:39
LaureanoDoes anyone know the exact time zone being used for the release of HH?23:39
tier005helló23:39
Seveas!isitout | Laureano23:39
ubotuLaureano: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.23:39
tier005hello23:39
roffe__I know that you don't know when it'll be released, but now it says coming soon! Reasonably the should release it the same time they've switched all the days before... does anyone know at what hour that used to be?23:39
tier005could you please tell me which package should i remove and install or update if the dektop effects is not working now (it was okay till one kernel update)23:39
CyberCodso it does show up when you do   ndiswrapper -l23:39
cygokuel_ruso : if I look in gparted, and Can't drives for C and D ...23:39
LaureanoThank you Seveas23:39
Seveasroffe__, bad assumptiun, the release manager now lives on a different continent :)23:39
chaquidriver installed, device present23:39
neur1UBUNTUJAY123 what edit?23:40
roffe__Seveas: Damn... I thought it would be reasonable to calculate it that way.. I'm eager as hell =)23:40
el_rusocygoku files still there?23:40
cygokuno files in there, they are unmountable23:40
Seveasroffe__, you're not the only one, party is going crazy in #ubuntu-release-party23:40
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CyberCodchaqui:   depmod -a23:41
CyberCodany errors?23:41
chaquiyes23:41
chaquiFATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied23:41
roffe__Seveas: haha.. ok, I'll head over there to see how the asses are shaking :)23:41
chaquioh23:41
chaquisudo23:41
chaquiduh23:41
CyberCodsudo depmod -a23:41
CyberCodnarf23:41
lwizardllol i just found a theme that has became my favorite gnome theme23:41
Kittyreally quick question, does the next release happen at 0000? if not when ?23:41
Seveas!isitout | Kitty23:42
ubotuKitty: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.23:42
chaquino errors23:42
CyberCodk23:42
Zelta!party | Kitty23:42
ubotuKitty: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties23:42
el_rusocygoku did you try running liveCD23:42
el_ruso?23:42
CyberCodsudo modprobe ndiswrapper23:42
chaquiiwconfig?23:42
Kittyfantasticly unuseful,23:42
cygokuel_ruso : no, what for ?23:42
chaquiit didn't pause23:42
chaquiit went to next line.23:42
lwizardlhttp://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Rebel+Wins++%28blue%29?content=5611523:43
lwizardl:)23:43
CyberCodok23:43
CyberCodtry ifconfig and/or iwconfig.... see if you see a wlan0 entry23:43
chaquino, etho and lo23:43
chaquithats all.23:43
CyberCod:(23:43
CyberCodwas that with the 64 bit drivers?23:43
chaquiyeah23:44
chaquithe xp drivers wouldnt install23:44
CyberCodtry the other ones... but first you need to remove the 64bit23:44
matt444when I go to Network in Places, it doesn't show up any computers!  Even the one that I'm using.  I know that's not right.  what do i do.23:44
CyberCodyou didn't have all the files there at the time23:44
chaquioh yeah23:44
Svenstarohappy release day everyone23:44
chaquican i navigate into the CD23:44
chaquior should i natulus everything over again23:45
CyberCodWhat kind of card is this?  did you check to see if it was supported?23:45
xanotherlsame to u!23:45
itaku!lamp23:45
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:45
nathansozhello. can anybody help me with a DVD problem23:45
chaquii feel like such a n00b when i nautilus :-(23:45
Fujitsumatt444: That generally only shows Windows machines, or Linux machines running Samba.23:45
chaquiits a belkin23:45
xanotherlho ahead, nathan23:45
CyberCodyou can navigate to the cd if you want to, but better to have them on the drive23:45
xanotherl*go23:45
matt444Fujitsu:  my computer is running samba.23:45
chaquiah23:45
* CyberCod hates belkin with a purple passion23:45
nathansozWell I am getting an error when I try to open a DVD in xine23:45
cygokuel_ruso : no, what for ? but i did installed hardy through livecd.23:45
CyberCodbelkin what23:45
nathansozIt says error reading nav packet23:45
chaquiFSD7000 v700023:46
CyberCodlooking it up23:46
xanotherlhave u tried zozem or vlc?23:46
xanotherldtotem23:46
chaquii have a linksys23:46
SeveasCyberCod, Purple Passion, is that a new drink? :)23:46
xanotherlcant write today :D23:46
nathansozVLC thinks about opening it, as in it shows up as reading as /dev/scd023:46
nathansozbut then goes back to the default, nothing playing23:46
chaquii know the linksys will probably auto recognise23:47
Seveasnathansoz, installed libdvdcss2?23:47
chaquibut i do like belkin :-[23:47
hassan4how can i install a new theme in ubuntu 7.1023:47
Dh08Is it possible to run Windows through ubuntu without installing an ISO23:47
nathansozin fact, let me see if it plays a different disk23:47
Seveas!theme | hassan423:47
ubotuhassan4: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy23:47
Seveas!changethemes | hassan423:47
ubotuhassan4: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes23:47
UBUNTUJAY123is xubuntu fast than ubuntu23:47
xanotherlyeah, it might be copy protection issue23:47
CyberCod sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185.inf23:47
nathansoz@seveas: Yea i have libdvdcss installed23:48
cygokujesus :( he's gone el_ruso ?23:48
Dh08I have both Win and Ubuntu installed and i dont want to create a virtual disk....23:48
CyberCodthen23:48
CyberCod sudo ndiswrapper -a 1799:700f net818523:48
chaquithats the article ive tried about a million times.23:48
matt444restarted my computer and now it's not even showing any computers in the network at all!  not even this one.  what do i do to find out the problem?23:48
nathansozThis is really very odd.23:48
chaquii guess im just gonna have to check out my linksys23:48
chaqui:-(23:48
CyberCoddidn't skip any steps did you?23:49
nathansozMy other disk worked23:49
chaquiyou know23:49
xanotherlso this special disk is protected ;)23:49
xanotherlwhich movie is it?23:49
chaquiif a million monkeys were sat infront of a million type writers23:49
chaqui...23:49
Dh08can i run a virtual machine with an installed copy of Windows?23:49
chaquitheres a quote like that23:49
nathansozthe disk i was trying to watch was LOST: Season 323:49
Some_PersonIs there a GNOME program that can make a VCD?23:49
chaquibut23:50
chaquino, i havent23:50
thesaint4444hi guys, this is not strictly an ubuntu question but if I want to go back 3 directories on my bash command line is there any way to do it rather than typing cd .. 3 times? thanks.23:50
nathansozbut when i put in Finding nemo it worked lol23:50
chaquiim gonna shut down23:50
msinghthesaint4444, cd ./../../../23:50
Dh08or, can an installed windows with a virtual machine?23:50
chaquiand get the other card23:50
xanotherlk, i see23:50
pluxDh08: yes you can... try virtualbox23:50
chaquiim sure it will work23:50
chaquithanks anyway cybercod, youve been most patient with me23:50
BhaalSo hardy is behind schedule?23:50
nathansozWell I guess their must be something about the lost disk that is odd.23:50
nathansozone more question that you might be able to help me with23:51
nerdsquad3210any NSA spys in here ?23:51
xanotherli think so too, try the other dvds in this set23:51
xanotherlk..?23:51
matt444i'm not able to see any computers on my network.  i have samba installed.  what is going on?23:51
Mecha25CyberCod: now a good time?23:51
CyberCodwho was it that needed ATI help?23:51
Mecha25me23:51
CyberCodah yes23:51
CyberCodyou're trying dual screen, right?23:51
nathansozI have a problem with my sound, that when i put in headphones, the speakers dont shut off. (this is a laptop)23:51
Lowkey420what do I do with a .bin file?23:51
Mecha25nope23:51
cokolinahow do i find out my mac address?23:51
cokolinaof wifi23:51
CyberCodok... explain23:52
nerdsquad3210lots of spam in here :D23:52
msinghcokolina, ifconfig and look for hw address under wlan023:52
q_a_z_steve!eraser23:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eraser - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:52
Mecha25the driver works fine, but there's a bug that makes it rediculously tough to use23:52
Mecha25whenever I scroll any window (particularly noticeable in firefox), there is a lag, up to around 2 seconds.  needless to say this is more than annoying and makes it very difficult to accurately scroll anything.23:52
xhamahxhello,, can anyone help me to make an apache webserver pls23:52
CyberCodI'll do my best, but as you can tell, sometimes that doesn't cut the mustard23:52
q_a_z_steve!eraser23:52
Lowkey420how do I install a .bin file?23:52
nathansozwhen i installed 8.04RC it would switch off the sound, but i had other issues, so I went back to 7.1023:52
odderxhamahx: sudo apt-get install apache223:52
xanotherldo you hear in both speaker and headphones?23:52
thesaint4444msingh: thanks....23:52
hassan4i need a strong codec to play any restricted formats in ubuntu 7.1023:52
CyberCodwhat driver are you using?23:52
nathansozyes i do23:52
odder!apache | xhamahx23:52
ubotuxhamahx: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)23:52
msinghLowkey420, set it executable and call it like ./thing23:53
nathansozdo you know what 8.04 does different with sound, so i can add that to 7.1023:53
jlundHow many changes have there been between the RC and the version that is coming out tomorrow?23:53
Lowkey420how do I set it executable?23:53
CyberCodnathansoz: it uses pulse audio for one thing23:53
nathansozI remember reading it uses pulse audio or something, but I dont want to screw up my sound23:53
one_taoxhamahx, dl (tomorrow) 8.04 server edition and burn it to a cd and boot from it and follow along.23:53
msinghLowkey420, how are you viewing it? shell or gui?23:53
Mecha25well, here's the thing, I'm waiting for the actual 8.04 release to come out so I can officially see if this problem is still there, as of the current RC it is.  The problem disappears when I uninstall the driver.  It's the one that the restricted drivers manager installs23:53
xanotherlno i do not, but have a look at the volume control23:53
Lowkey420gui, I think23:53
nathansozxanotherl, i did that, I have two channels23:54
q_a_z_steveanybody know a secure file eraser for linux? I need to zero out the FREE SPACE only, on an ntfs drive23:54
Mecha25the same one in the add/remove programs option23:54
nathansozmaster and pcm23:54
xhamahxthanx ,,23:54
one_taoxhamahx, make sure to do the 'LAMP' part - ask us as you go...23:54
Naibq_a_z_steve: shred23:54
CyberCodah... just as a test, have you tried installing the ati driver using Envy?   (sssssh  I know its a bad word in here)23:54
xanotherltry to mute speaker...23:54
jrwahi there23:54
hassan4i need a strong codec to play any restricted formats in ubuntu 7.10 please23:54
Mecha25yep!  did that first thing, same exact problem though23:54
nathansozI did, that didn't work. :S no sound out of headphones23:54
CyberCodhassan4:   VLC will play just about everything23:55
xanotherloh^^, k23:55
xhamahxok ,, thanks one_tao23:55
nathansozThe only issue I had with 8.04 was my brightness23:55
jrwaI just messed my entire system upgrading from feisty to gutsy23:55
nathansozsettings for my laptop23:55
LilJohndoes anyone know anything about LVM's?23:55
Mecha25it's weird, the only time I really notice it is in firefox, although I also noticed in 7.10 that if I take off Compiz it goes away23:55
hassan4thanx23:55
jrwawhat could I read to fix the famous 139 error code?23:55
CyberCodMecha25: sounds like the drivers are just messed up... I know they're working really hard on them right now.23:55
nathansozMy hardware fn keys didnt work23:55
nathansozand software wasnt able to do it23:55
xanotherlwell, then the best would be to wait a couple of hours and grab the official hardy23:55
nathansozso if i could get that to work, then i would just upgrade23:56
Mecha25ok, thanks for the info, I'll wait till I hear from ATI of a new release.  have a good one23:56
nathansozOk.23:56
CyberCodI'm 0 for 223:56
mijachola23:56
timboyis there a way to open up port 21 to a user that does not have root perms?23:56
CyberCod:(23:56
mijachey guys Im in problems23:56
nathansozDo you think that there is that big a difference between the RC and official in terms of small things such as laptop support?23:56
mijacI don't know what I did23:56
Naibmijac: neither do we ;)23:56
jrwaI hope it has an easy fix, the ssh server seems to be uninstalled, and I can't get to the machine this week :/23:56
mijachehe23:56
CyberCodNaib you beat me to it23:56
xanotherlits diffcult to solve your problem with this many laptop out there ;)23:56
LilJohntimboy what exactly are you trying to do allow some one access to ftp?23:57
one_taomijac, whats up?23:57
nathansozhaha you are right23:57
Seveastimboy, no23:57
nathansozI had a killer time setting up my wireless.23:57
xanotherlno, not tha much, but stable and well tested ;)23:57
timboyLilJohn, i have installed an ftp server in wine23:57
nathansozStupid atheros 500723:57
* Babacom is thrown into an Ubuntu conversation ... how rude ... ;)23:57
gamalernAnyone have any luck getting lexmark printers working?23:57
mijacim using ubuntu 8.04 beta and after a while my windows partition starts to load but the machine restart automaticaly23:57
Babacomevening room ... and sorry for the intrusion23:57
LilJohntimboy, why in wine proftp works great23:57
Some_Person!hardy | mijac23:57
hassan4how can i use dual boot without displaying GRUB message?23:57
ubotumijac: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!23:57
xanotherlhm, sounds familiar...:)23:57
one_taohassand4, use LILO?23:58
jrwaI can't install or uninstall any package :/23:58
nathansozWell, thank you xanotherl23:58
mijacbefore the windows logo, and my disks does not mount automaticaly23:58
timboyLilJohn, too difficult to add multiple virtual users23:58
mijacgrub23:58
Seveashassan4, then how would you choose?23:58
linkmaster03I cannot uninstall OSS, this shows in Synaptic E: oss-linux: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 223:58
nathansozIt seems like the only peoples problems that I have trouble solving are myself's :)23:58
xanotherlthe guys that have your hardware the bigger the chance to get a nice neat driver23:58
nathansozfunny how that works23:58
one_taomijac, do you want to restore your windows boot sector?23:58
mijacnoo23:59
mijacthat's works good23:59
xanotherlhehe, happens^^23:59
CyberCodhassan4:   you can put    hiddenmenu    in your menu.lst file, and it will hide the menu unless you press ESC23:59
matt444i'm not able to see any computers on my network.  i have samba installed.  what is going on?23:59
hassan4by pressing a specific key for example23:59
nathansozok catch ya later23:59
LilJohntimboy im trying to pm you23:59
xanotherlk, cya23:59
jrwasome packages are breaking with a segfault, and some are complaining "post installation script returned the exit error code 139"23:59
NaibLilJohn: PM only work if the user is identified on freenode23:59
hassan4thnx23:59
timboyLilJohn, sorry i'll register23:59
one_taomijac, can you boot to a live cd and repair grub?23:59

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