[00:59] <superm1> slundell, x11vnc doesnt do that
[01:00] <superm1> that would be vnc4server
[02:10] <pdragon> hmm... how do you set LiveTV to use a specific storage group?
[02:11] <pdragon> i set the LiveTV storage group up in the backend setup, but it's still recording to the default location
[02:23] <pdragon> nm... figured that out
[05:09] <jakeotr> f
[05:30] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: you here?
[05:30] <darthanubis> yes
[05:31] <rhpot1991> I wanted you to email me cause I had to leave IRC
[05:31] <rhpot1991> nothing secretive
[05:31] <rhpot1991> add my PPA to your sources
[05:31] <rhpot1991> there is a bug fix applied to them that should fix your nuv issue
[05:31] <darthanubis> sweet!
[05:32] <rhpot1991> provided nuv work on with it, I only have mpeg2 hardware so I never tested them
[05:32] <rhpot1991> I heard word about ffmpeg (for flash in mythweb) not working with nuv though, so the same problem might happen here
[05:32] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, I was frustrated man...:/
[05:34] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, I did add a pps for mythtv that superm1  gave me a while back that I had unchecked for some reason
[05:34] <darthanubis> thought it'd help but it did not
[05:34] <darthanubis> I wonder if your is different
[05:34] <rhpot1991> ya
[05:34] <rhpot1991> let me get it for you
[05:35] <rhpot1991> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rhpot1991/ubuntu hardy main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/rhpot1991/ubuntu hardy main
[05:35] <rhpot1991> that didn't paste well
[05:35] <rhpot1991> should be a break in bettween them
[05:38] <superm1> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/rhpot1991/ubuntu hardy main
[05:38] <superm1> just need that part really
[05:38] <rhpot1991> superm1: true
[05:41] <blkorpheus> http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/ubuntu << superm1 game me that
[05:41] <blkorpheus> I forget what the issue was then?
[05:41] <blkorpheus> think thats back before .21 was out
[05:41] <blkorpheus> er became final
[05:42] <superm1> dont use that an more
[05:42] <superm1> you dont need it
[05:42] <Tuv0k> k
[05:42]  * Tuv0k deletes it
[05:45] <Tuv0k> I have basically in synaptic all of myth as "local or obsolete"?!?
[05:45] <Tuv0k> that can't be good?
[05:47] <Tuv0k> I have 0.21.0+fixes17081(now)
[05:48] <Tuv0k> I have 0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3 (hardy)
[05:49] <Tuv0k> 0.21.0+fixes17081-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 (now)
[05:51] <PlaneRacer> hi
[05:52] <PlaneRacer> is myth supports nexus-s cards?
[05:53] <Tuv0k> rhpot1991, I think its ffmpeg
[05:54] <rhpot1991> Tuv0k: doesn't surprise me :(
[05:54] <rhpot1991> maybe search the forums for ffmpeg + nuv info
[05:54] <rhpot1991> your mpeg's should work though, so thats another issue
[05:54] <rhpot1991> I have heard mencoder can do nuv, so if you want to mess with that and make some working command lines I can add them in the next cycle
[05:55] <Tuv0k> /home/anubis/store/mythtv/video/1061_20080422190000.mpg: I/O error occured Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
[05:56] <Tuv0k> file is truncated and/or corrupted?
[05:56] <rhpot1991> you gots busted files or ones that ffmpeg doesn't like at least
[05:56] <rhpot1991> you verified it exists and so on?
[05:56] <rhpot1991> cause the bug will s/nuv/mpg/ on you
[06:00] <Tuv0k> the file is there
[06:03] <Tuv0k> EVERYTHING else is perfect besides these two issues
[06:03] <Tuv0k> great functionality I'm missing out on without these exports
[06:04] <rhpot1991> Tuv0k: I suspect when you find out the issue with ffmpeg all else will be fixed
[06:04] <rhpot1991> not much I can do about it though, without knowing what your problem is
[06:04] <Tuv0k> if mythtranscode was actucally better than what it is, there'd be no need for exporters
[06:05] <Tuv0k> I using the ffmpeg that everyone is using , from the mediabuntu for hardy repos
[06:05] <rhpot1991> good
[06:05] <Tuv0k> just checked, and the regualr hardy ffmpeg is the same
[06:05] <rhpot1991> but still you have some issue with it
[06:05] <rhpot1991> doesn't like your files for some reason
[06:05] <Tuv0k> I'm getting ready to compile it from source
[06:06] <Tuv0k> I was wondering if mythtranscode was mangling the files some how?
[06:06] <Tuv0k> but that would not explain the mpgs
[06:06] <rhpot1991> did you transcode them all?
[06:06] <Tuv0k> then I thought maybe my database
[06:06] <Tuv0k> no
[06:06] <rhpot1991> I do raw mpeg2 and leave them as is
[06:06] <rhpot1991> though I have done mpeg2 lossless from mythtranscode and they worked as well
[06:06] <Tuv0k> some I plained to stream, and nuv don't stream
[06:07] <Tuv0k> why losseless is the file smaller
[06:07] <Tuv0k> I only transcode to save space
[06:07] <rhpot1991> lossless means no quality loss
[06:07] <rhpot1991> I did that to cut commercials
[06:07] <Tuv0k> I know
[06:07] <rhpot1991> before exporting
[06:07] <Tuv0k> ah
[06:07] <Tuv0k> thats what I wanted as well
[06:08] <rhpot1991> I should check and see if I can do ipod chapter points again
[06:08] <Tuv0k> transcoding nonlossless to then export without commercials
[06:08] <Tuv0k> smaller files without commercials
[06:08] <rhpot1991> Tuv0k: just transcode to lossless (if non lossless is a problem), cause you are reducing the size when you export
[06:09] <Tuv0k> yeah
[06:09] <rhpot1991> I don't fully trust the commflagging though
[06:09] <Tuv0k> if I only could get the export to work, that'd be perfect
[06:09] <rhpot1991> so when I do that I check them by hand before transcoding
[06:09] <Tuv0k> I notice some networks flag great
[06:10] <Tuv0k> others try to creep commercials in on the program
[06:10] <rhpot1991> I notice problems when shows show you a final ending and it thinks its still commercials the most
[06:10] <rhpot1991> that or weather delays, they screw everything up
[06:13] <rhpot1991> Tuv0k: if you make a small test recording I could mess with that
[06:13] <Tuv0k> ok
[06:14] <Tuv0k> a small mpg
[06:14] <rhpot1991> schedule something like a 1 or 2 minute recording and see if you can email it to me
[06:14] <Tuv0k> mpg nuv or both?
[06:14] <rhpot1991> both would work I guess
[06:14] <rhpot1991> see what the file size is first
[06:14] <rhpot1991> I think gmail has a 10 meg limit
[06:14] <rhpot1991> might need to try and compress it
[06:14] <rhpot1991> if not then I can try to find somewhere that you can dump them
[06:15] <rhpot1991> gonna head to bed now, if you can email them do it if not then I'll talk to you about it later
[06:15] <Tuv0k> k
[06:15] <Tuv0k> night thx
[06:23] <PlaneRacer> is myth supports nexus-s cards?
[07:58] <Tuv0k> rhpot1991, think I nailed it!
[07:58] <Tuv0k> ffmpeg does not have libfaac support enabled
[07:59] <Tuv0k> so I compiled the support in
[08:00] <Tuv0k> also mythexport calls "aac" when it should call "libfaac". With those two changes, even .nuv transcodes!
[08:01] <Tuv0k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythexport/+bug/221053
[08:02] <Tuv0k> there are three other duplicates of this bug
[08:02] <Tuv0k> which one is marked wish list
[09:23] <bbqninja> Hello, is anyone around who would know why .21 got pushed to "deb http://weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/ubuntu gutsy multiverse universe restricted main
[09:23] <bbqninja> " ?
[09:23] <bbqninja> chatter on the mailling list implied that 7.10 would stick at .20.2, but as of last night it wants to upgrade (and it appears some packages aren't fully there)
[09:24] <bbqninja> (I do NOT have gutsy-backports enabled)
[12:08] <emja> can someone please point me to a reasonable menu editing guide/howto? http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Menu_theme_development_guide is lacking
[12:08] <emja> if not, how do I execute the internal player from a custom menu, presumably via the JUMP menu directive?
[14:03] <pdragon> Ran an update last night, which included a lot of plugin updates, and now mythweb won't work anymore. Getting the error
[14:03] <pdragon> "Database Access Denied - You are most likely receiving this message because you have failed to configure mythweb's database login info. Please see INSTALL for instructions."
[14:04] <pdragon> tried re-running the mythweb configuration but it still gives the same error
[14:04] <pdragon> any ideas?
[17:14] <kemotaha> anyone know when the 8.04 iso is going to be released?
[17:14] <laga> kemotaha: in a few hours.
[17:14] <kemotaha> thx
[17:15] <tgm4883> laga: always giving people false hope ;)
[17:16] <laga> muhaha
[17:52] <frink__> kemotaha: I already upgraded to the 8.04 RC, then to upgrade to the real one is a smaller incremental update
[17:53] <kemotaha> frink__: I realize that, I am being forced to move my myth box due to hardware problems and the RC live CD didn't work for me.  That is why I ask.  I am trying the alternate CD as we speak
[17:53] <laga> let me know how the altenate disk works for you
[17:54] <kemotaha> Will do
[17:55] <laga> kemotaha: are you using the RC?
[17:56] <kemotaha> yeah
[17:57] <laga> the "master backend" task won't work in the RC
[17:57] <laga> it's fixed in the final
[17:59] <kemotaha> Can I do a full install from the alternate?
[18:00] <laga> no, you'll have to add the "backend role" later in the control centre
[18:05] <Seeker`> is it possible to make lirc change the volume in alsa directly, rather than using the inbuilt mythtv volume control
[18:11] <rambo3> isnt lirc changing volume directly ?
[18:11] <Seeker`> rambo3: It sends the equivalent of  the volume key in mythtv at the moment
[18:11] <Seeker`> rambo3: I want it to change the volume in every application, not just mythtv
[18:12] <tgm4883_laptop> Seeker`, have you tried changing the frontend from "internal volume control" to "master volume control"
[18:14] <Seeker`> hmm
[18:40] <Gast> Hello, i have one short question. Can i update my mythbuntu version atomatic? Or will be installed the ubuntu distri, because on the homepage the update dont stay there
[18:41] <laga> what update doesn't stay there?
[18:42] <Gast> the new mythbuntu... ubuntu have a new release
[18:42] <laga> yeah, what's the problem with that?
[18:42] <Gast> teher only stays the rc version
[18:43] <laga> the final will be out in a few hours
[18:43] <Gast> when i automatic update my mythbuntu 7.10, do sey installed the news mythbuntu version or the new ubuntu?
[18:43] <laga> if your update your 7.10, you'll get mythbuntu 8.04
[18:44] <Gast> ok the final version is released, but not on the side, yet?
[18:45] <laga> Gast: die archive sind geschlossen, die pakete im endgültigen zustand, es ist quasi nur noch nicht auf der website
[18:46] <Gast> ah ok danke für die infos dann weiß ich bescheid :)
[18:47] <Maybelline> This may be a FAQ, but is it safe for me to update my 7.10 Mythbuntu to the 8.04, as shown in the Update Manager?
[18:48] <sephtin> @laga: by upgrade, do you mean upgrade?  or dist-upgrade?
[18:50] <laga> Maybelline: define "safe" :)
[18:50] <laga> by the way, running "aptitude dist-upgrade" to go from one release to another is not recommended. use the update-manager
[18:51] <Maybelline> Well, I've had the weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org repo for quite some time, and I've worked out all the kinks there.  But, now, in Update Manager, it shows that 8.04 is released.  I'm worried because the mythbuntu.org website still only shows that 8.04 is an RC, not released.
[18:52] <laga> Maybelline: consider it final. except for one minor kink in mythbuntu-control-centre which will be fixed soon it's final
[18:52] <laga> Maybelline: of course, having a backup doesn't hurt
[18:52] <Maybelline> OK, cool.  Thanks.  You've helped me on more than one occasion, and I appreciate it.
[18:53] <laga> did i? cool .)
[18:55] <Gast> vielen dank noch einmal.... ich werde wieder gehen... tschüüüß
[19:21] <Seeker`> I cant find where I am starting irexec :(
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest30> looking forward to the 8.04 release...
[19:25] <MythbuntuGuest30> Anything change since the rc?
[19:26] <laga> just some bug fixes
[19:29] <MythbuntuGuest30> cool, how long after release does mythbuntu usually arrive?
[19:32] <laga> give it one or two hours
[19:36] <kemotaha> laga, FYI the alternate CD seems to be working
[19:37] <laga> kemotaha: great
[19:56] <darthanubis> bug 6366
[19:56] <darthanubis> bug #6366
[19:56] <darthanubis> !bug #6366
[19:56] <darthanubis> ?
[19:56] <laga> darthanubis: patience
[19:57] <darthanubis> ;)
[19:57] <darthanubis> never takes that long
[19:59]  * Seeker` wnats lirc to be able to execute command line stuff only when certain applications are open
[19:59] <laga> Seeker`: bash script? ;)
[20:00] <Seeker`> laga: not exactly sure about how to go about doing it
[20:01] <laga> if ps ax | grep name > /dev/null; then run-my-command; fi
[20:01] <laga> or something like that
[20:02] <darthanubis> bug #6366
[20:03] <darthanubis> its only broken here for some reason
[20:04] <laga> maybe it's not enabled here
[20:22] <pdragon> ubuntu forums slow today. damn ubuntu being too popular for its own good :)
[20:23] <hugolp> pdragon:  today www.ubuntu.com wasnt loading at some moments
[20:34] <Seeker`> laga: It would appear it is possible to do it with modes in .lircrc
[21:32] <riddlebox> can anyone compile the latest v4l drivers on the hardy version?
[21:32] <pdragon> laga: you still around?
[21:33] <laga> yes
[21:33] <pdragon> think i found what caused the problem i posted about in the forum, but not sure how to fix it
[21:34] <laga> pdragon: what is it?
[21:34] <pdragon> the .htaccess file in /var/www/mythweb is a symlink to  /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess. That original file was deleted
[21:34] <pdragon> rerunning the setup isn't recreating it either
[21:35] <laga> what setup?
[21:35] <laga> oh.
[21:35] <pdragon> dpkg-reconfigure mythweb
[21:35] <laga> i dont think .htaccess is supposed to existr
[21:36] <laga> oh
[21:36] <laga> i have that file, too
[21:36] <laga> well, the broken symlink.
[21:36] <pdragon> so that's not what's causing it then?
[21:36] <laga> i don't know. try removing .htaccess
[21:37] <laga> and probably reload apache
[21:37] <pdragon> nope
[21:37] <pdragon> still not working
[21:38] <laga> pdragon: can you pastebin /etc/apache2/sites-available/mythweb.conf? make sure to remove your password
[21:38] <pdragon> sure one sec
[21:42] <pdragon> http://pastebin.com/d29d5223
[21:43] <laga> #
[21:43] <laga>             setenv db_password      "#######"
[21:43] <laga> ^^ i assume you edited that?
[21:43] <pdragon> yep :)
[21:43] <laga> good :)
[21:43] <laga> did it match what you had in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt?
[21:46] <pdragon> no, they didn't match... and i think i just pasted the wrong one to the wrong file >.<
[21:46] <laga> pdragon: wait..
[21:46] <pdragon> but, i hadn't changed any of that stuff
[21:46] <laga> ok
[21:46] <pdragon> and it was working before the update
[21:46] <laga> do you still have the old pass in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt?
[21:47] <pdragon> no, that's what i just overwrote and i save/quit before i realized it
[21:47] <pdragon> dumbass
[21:49] <pdragon> that password in mysql.txt saved anywhere else i can get to via an ssh terminal?
[21:49] <laga> yeah
[21:49] <laga> wait a sec
[21:49] <tgm4883_laptop> ~/.mythtv/
[21:49] <pdragon> i remember the first two letters, so i'll know it if i see it
[21:50] <laga> echo "get mythtv/mysql_mythtv_password" | debconf-communicate
[21:50] <pdragon> that's just a symlink to the other one
[21:54] <pdragon> that's giving back the password that was in mythweb.conf, not mysql.txt
[21:54] <laga> pdragon: hum.
[21:54] <laga> okay.
[21:54] <laga> was that your master backend?
[21:55] <laga> f, spilled some water
[21:55] <pdragon> yeah, just one computer backend & frontend
[21:55] <laga> brb
[21:55] <pdragon> hehe np
[21:57] <pdragon> found it in another file in ~/.mythtv
[21:57] <pdragon> config.xml
[21:57] <pdragon> thought he meant the mysql.txt file there
[22:00] <laga> okay
[22:00] <laga> re
[22:00] <pdragon> that fixed it
[22:00] <pdragon> got the original mysql.txt password into the mythweb.conf file
[22:00] <pdragon> so, that update overwrote the .conf file with another password for some reason
[22:00] <laga> so what exactly happened? your password was in config.xml?
[22:01] <pdragon> the original one was yeah. i copied it out of there and put it back in mysql.txt
[22:01] <pdragon> and then put that password into mythweb.conf
[22:01] <pdragon> now mythweb works
[22:01] <laga> pdragon: i'd recommend that you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common and put the "new" password in there
[22:01] <laga> or it'll break on the next update.
[22:02] <laga> still odd.
[22:03] <pdragon> i'm reloading once final is out. i've been running 8.04 on a spare harddrive and still have my 7.10 on the original harddrive
[22:04] <laga> final will be there real soon
[22:04] <pdragon> hmm... so not sure how this broke actually
[22:04] <pdragon> it either put a new password in mysql.txt (and everywhere else that password is) or it put a new one in mythweb.conf
[22:04] <famicom> If you are doing a dist-upgrade
[22:05] <pdragon> i'm not
[22:05] <laga> pdragon: did you change the password for the mysql database manually at some point?
[22:05] <famicom> i STRONGLY suggest you reinstalll
[22:05] <pdragon> no, i did not laga
[22:05] <laga> don't dist-upgrade, use update-manager
[22:05] <pdragon> just ran an apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <pdragon> or actually, ran the update manager
[22:05] <pdragon> not apt on the command line
[22:05] <pdragon> as soon as the update was done, i rebooted (kernel update) and then mythweb no longer worked
[22:06] <laga> pdragon: here's what i think has happened:
[22:06] <famicom> laga update manager is dist upgrade
[22:07] <laga> pdragon: when mythweb is configured, the password etc is taken from the debconf database instead of mysql.txt. somehow you changed the password in mythtv and in the mysql database or you entered something wrong when configuring the mythtv-common package
[22:07] <laga> famicom: "aptitude dist-upgrade" is not "update-manager"
[22:08] <famicom> could be
[22:08] <famicom> I don't use most added ubuntu tools
[22:08] <famicom> they're too fragile
[22:08] <pdragon> laga: i've done multiple updates on this machine to the mythtv packages without problems until now, though
[22:09] <famicom> I've had some really relaly weird quircks
[22:09] <laga> 17:45 < laga> ogra: btw, why? does update-manager add specific hacks?
[22:09] <laga> 17:45 < ogra> laga, tons, yes
[22:10] <laga> 17:45 < ogra> laga, every failure that showed up in a test during the last three months is covered by it
[22:10] <laga> using update-manager might actually be a good idea :=)
[22:10] <laga> when i dist-upgraded my hardy box, i had to run it three times to be up to date
[22:10] <laga> which introduced interesting levels of breakage between these runs
[22:11] <laga> i'll probably keep using dist-upgrade just because i can, though ;)
[22:12] <pdragon> well, looking forward to final then. :) got me a nice new upgraded computer for my backend
[22:12] <pdragon> which is also my main frontend
[22:13] <laga> does anyone here have a fast box to seed some torrents?
[22:13] <pdragon> upgraded my gaming computer and made my old gamer my dvr
[22:13] <laga> pdragon: my normal computer is also my frontend ;)
[22:14] <pdragon> oh, i use all my computers as frontends. my backend is the one hooked up to my living room tv and stereo tho
[22:14] <pdragon> i don't have a fast connection, but i can help seed
[22:14] <pdragon> seeding 8.04 desktop and server now too :)
[22:15] <laga> pdragon: if you can, it'd be good to file a bug about the mythweb problem.. i can't guarantee it'll be fixed, but i've seen these problems often enough that i want to try to get them fixed
[22:17] <laga> pdragon: we need a fast connection for an initial seed the mythbuntu disks. i guess we need to wait for tgm4883_laptop to get home ;)
[22:17] <pdragon> hehe ok. just say when it's up and i'll download it as well :)
[22:21] <pdragon> bug reported
[22:22] <laga> pdragon: great, thanks
[22:24] <pdragon> now maybe i'll finally sit down and get a remote working. just been using a wireless keyboard :p
[22:50] <jayshotta> Hey guys im trying the RC for mythbuntu I have 2 sata 250 on a rosewill card set to Raid 0 but it keeps showing me 2 drives at install time
[22:51] <laga> jayshotta: it's probably a softraid
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> yep, sounds like softraid
[22:52] <jayshotta> what can I do to get it to span to 500gb
[22:52] <tgm4883_laptop> either setup storage groups or mdadm
[22:53] <laga> or lvm
[22:53] <tgm4883_laptop> yes
[22:53] <laga> that'll desync your "raid" array, though
[22:53] <laga> so be careful if you use windows on there
[22:54] <jayshotta> I was gonna try LVM but how do I set the second drive as apart of volume
[22:55] <jayshotta> Couldnt find any useful guides
[22:56] <kemotaha> jayshotta: the program you want is dmraid
[22:57] <jayshotta> ok ima google it
[22:57] <kemotaha> only use it though if you need to keep it as a raid on the "hw" level
[22:57] <kemotaha> for example if you dual boot or access the drives from windows
[22:58] <kemotaha> otherwise use LVM or a software raid, or just use storage groups
[22:58] <jayshotta> this is strickly for mythbuntu box
[22:58] <laga> i'd recommend storage grousp
[22:58] <laga> groups*
[22:58] <jayshotta> where can I find dmraid ?
[22:58] <laga> less data loss if one disk fails :)
[22:58] <jayshotta> How u go about setting storage groups
[22:59] <laga> jayshotta: it's an option in mythtv
[22:59] <laga> you just add two directories to store recordings
[22:59] <kemotaha> dmraid is a package for Ubuntu.  but go with laga's suggestion.
[22:59] <laga> and that's it
[23:00] <jayshotta> So just install on mythtv on primary drive then add extra drive there
[23:01] <jayshotta> Its almost done installing on first drive bout to reboot
[23:05] <jayshotta> Is there a special install for Storage gropus
[23:07] <laga> no
[23:07] <kemotaha> nope it is a feature in myth .21
[23:07] <laga> you need to mount your second drive
[23:08] <laga> there are probably a thousand ways to do that, but i don't know if a nice gUI utility is included in mythbuntu
[23:08] <laga> i'm sure someone in here can tell you how they did that
[23:11] <jayshotta> ooh ok Ima need some help with it
[23:13] <jayshotta> Anyone in here can assist me in setting up Storage groups im running 8.04 RC of mythbuntu
[23:24] <LeeSharp> What is the current debate on 64bit vs 32bit?
[23:25] <laga> what was the previous debate?
[23:26] <LeeSharp> I have been away from Myth for a while and back then 64 bit linux was considered unusable to problimatic.  I am about to install to a new system.  Which way should I go with 8.04 mythubuntu?
[23:28] <laga> amd64 should be OK unless you want flash (which usually works) or some w32codecs (often not needed anymore, at least not for me).
[23:28] <laga> often i386 will be sufficient, though. it's really your call :)
[23:29] <LeeSharp> Well, I have a lot of old media, so win32codecs are kinda important...  But there is no major benefit to 64bit at this time?
[23:30] <laga> it might be a bit more optimized, so if your box is close to the edge, amd64 might perform better
[23:30] <laga> wrt w32codecs, are you sure you still need them with recent mplayer?
[23:31] <c3rb3rus5> so i bet that this has been asked a few times today already, but when is the final mythbuntu 8.04 release?
[23:32] <LeeSharp> Not sure, reallyu.  Just don't want to find out later. :)  Especially if there is no pressing reason to go 64.  I guess an E2180 with 2 gig and 500 gig SATA should be enough to make the difference minor...
[23:32] <laga> c3rb3rus5: soon. :) give it a few hours. (i know i've been saying this for a few hours, but we've been having some porblems with the release process ;))
[23:32] <c3rb3rus5> laga: gotcha
[23:33] <LeeSharp> Does this mean the alt-installs on cdimage are not real yet?
[23:33] <laga> LeeSharp: yup. although it'd be interesting to see some real benchmarks w/ mythbuntu
[23:33] <laga> LeeSharp: they're real. as far as we're concerned, there's no release unless it's on our website :)
[23:33] <c3rb3rus5> laga: would you recommend a clean install, or an upgrade... currently some things are not working for me like the channel icons automation, mytharchive, and streamiung over mythweb
[23:33] <laga> LeeSharp: we're still updating mirrors and setting up torrents
[23:34] <james_> hi
[23:34] <c3rb3rus5> running 7.10 with myth .21
[23:34] <laga> c3rb3rus5: try an upgrade, if it doesn't work you can still reinstall :)
[23:34] <c3rb3rus5> true
[23:35] <laga> there are also weekly builds for gutsy
[23:35] <c3rb3rus5> bet the servers are slammed right now
[23:35] <laga> but by all means, try hardy and report bugs if you find them :)
[23:35] <laga> yeah, they are
[23:35] <LeeSharp> The trackers keep falling down.  I have been seeding hardy all day, and the trackers are overloaded.
[23:36] <laga> ouch
[23:36] <laga> if even the trackers are overloaded than it's bad
[23:36] <c3rb3rus5> anyone know if i can set a partition as /var/lib without formatting it using the installer
[23:36] <LeeSharp> You see the seeders get to about 5000 and leechers get to about 6000, and it falls over.  Then comes back with 7 seeders. :)
[23:37] <laga> c3rb3rus5: that's possible in the alt disk at least, it should be possible in the live disk too. i'd recommend you upgrade mysql manually, though. the database resides in /var/lib/mysql/ and mysql might not like just getting a database from an old version
[23:38] <laga> LeeSharp: awesome :)
[23:38] <james_> can someone help me with installing my Kworld ATSC 110 card for ATSC Antenna
[23:39] <c3rb3rus5> laga: i'm talking about a clean install.  if i did a clean install and set a drive to mount as /car/lib wouldnt the installer just overwrite the /var/lib/mysql dir?
[23:39] <c3rb3rus5> uh... /var not /car :-p
[23:40] <laga> c3rb3rus5: is the drive which will be mounted as /var/lib/ supposed to be formatted?
[23:40] <c3rb3rus5> james_: i have a KWorld ATSC 110, but i never got it up and running for analog.  I found out that firewire seems to work better for me for everything so i kinda justh ave it sitting there now
[23:41] <c3rb3rus5> laga: well, the idea is to keep all my recordings (which reside in /var/lib/mythtv) without having to native export and then xfer them back and forth
[23:41] <laga> c3rb3rus5: i don't think /var/lib/mysql will be overwritten.
[23:41] <c3rb3rus5> hrm
[23:42] <laga> c3rb3rus5: if you lose your database, you'll have to reimport your recordings manually
[23:42] <james_> c3rb3rus5, I have 3 cards that are going to be used in mythtv. KWorld ATSC 110 (Antenna), Hauppage PVR-150 (Recording my game play from my TV-Out), Twinhan 103g (Satellite)
[23:42] <c3rb3rus5> right, but if i do a native export it _should_ keep the metadata right?
[23:43] <laga> c3rb3rus5: i think that's the point
[23:43] <laga> or you can keep your database ;) (mysqldump and import afterwards)
[23:43] <laga> or just do an ubuntu update ;)
[23:43] <c3rb3rus5> i guess what i'm looking to do is just not have to transfer 90+ gigs to another computer when i might be able to carry ot over on the same machine
[23:44] <c3rb3rus5> i'm gonna try the update first... but i have this feeling
[23:44] <c3rb3rus5> james_: i don't have an antenna, so i can;t speak for the ATSC's setup for ATSC
[23:44] <c3rb3rus5> james_: i was going to use it for QAM
[23:47] <c3rb3rus5> for the record, bittorrent is great
[23:48] <c3rb3rus5> because finding 1 MB/s + speeds from a mirror never happens
[23:50] <james_> c3rb3rus5, that depends on your ISP. my ISP makes it so I can't seed any torrents
[23:50] <c3rb3rus5> that sucks :(
[23:51] <james_> gotta love AT&T
[23:52] <LeeSharp> Transmission, the bittorrent client in Hardy, allows encrypted connections so you can seed on comcast...  I am on AT&T and seeding like crazy.
[23:52] <james_> LeeSharp, I've got encryption on in Azureus
[23:53] <laga> c3rb3rus5: i sometimes get > 2MB/s from cdimage.ubuntu.com, but that's very rare ;)
[23:53] <laga> c3rb3rus5: and certainly not shortly after a release
[23:53] <c3rb3rus5> hah, yea
[23:53] <james_> LeeSharp, what port you use for your torrent program?
[23:54] <LeeSharp> I use Transmissions default port, 51413
[23:54] <jayshotta> Can anyone help me add a 250GB hdd to my Mythbuntu 8.04 for extra storage