[00:00] why the devices do not appear on desktop?!?!! [00:09] HELLO [00:15] greetings from Malaysia! [00:30] Quick question for anyone who's free...? [00:32] Hello? [00:32] gd morning. [00:33] well, it's morning over here GMT +8 [00:33] Morning. Afternoon here. I think GMT -5 maybe? [00:33] oh [00:34] i dont know if i can help, im a xubuntu user for 5 months only [00:34] US Eastern Daylight Time...wanna try anyway? [00:34] ok [00:35] Alright, I have a blank disk in my CDRW drive and I can see the icon on my desktop, however whenever i click on it, it tells me I must be root to mount it. How do I mount it under root? [00:35] erm, sudo mount? [00:35] Means nothing to me, unfortunately, I've been on Ubuntu for about 3 months or so. [00:36] hrm.. [00:36] At least I finally got rid of Windows. [00:36] i have been using xubuntu on usb [00:36] not a full install [00:36] let's see.. [00:36] why would you be trying to mount a blank disk? if it is blank there is nothing to mount [00:37] I want to mount the drive, so I can burn a cd [00:37] It won't automount [00:37] you don't need to mount the disk to burn too it [00:37] almost all cdwriter software works through cdrecord which needs the media to NOT be mounted [00:37] I kept trying to burn it, but it keeps telling me there's no drive there. [00:38] what program are you trying to burn with, what are you trying to burn, and does it say what 'there' is [00:38] Hold on a sec. [00:39] ah.. this is a question which i cannot help... i never burned discs before [00:39] Never huh? Interesting. I'm trying to use K3b because I have a playlist saved with K3b and it tells me this: [00:40] No CD/DVD writer found. [00:40] K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation. [00:41] No idea huh? [00:41] I am not familiar with k3b...... I generally just use cdrecord directly [00:42] Dang. I'm asking the Ubuntu channel now. [00:43] for the past 5 months i have been sticking to google for help [00:44] so does k3b see your writer under settings->configure->devices? [00:44] I don't think so, hold on a sec. [00:44] and are you in the cdrom group? [00:44] And google hasn't helped much with this question. Always my first stop. [00:45] Don't know what that means either. === MiKa^ is now known as MiKa| === MiKa| is now known as MiKa^ [00:46] from a terminak do a grep 'cdrom:' /etc/group and see if your login id is listed [00:47] Talk to me like I'm stupid, I won't mind. Haven't been on Linux long at all. [00:48] start a terminal and run the command: grep 'cdrom:' /etc/group [00:48] you should see something like cdrom:x:24:punkn00dlez,haldaemon === punkn00dlez is now known as punkn00dlezz [01:01] when is next big xubuntu release come ? [01:01] some 8.x ? [01:01] i think today? [01:02] if not mistaken [01:02] really ? [01:02] from 7.10 to 8.x is coming today? :D [01:02] I think you could download the rc now... I doubt there will be any major changes.. [01:02] well im still waiting... [01:02] anyway, going off to uni [01:02] see ya guys soon [01:02] * MiKa^ camps here [01:03] i have never upgraded ubuntu version, i wonder how complicated that could be [01:03] i bet fresh install of 8.x is recommended? [01:04] upgrading is pretty easy asuming you stuck to official sources for most of your software [01:05] all you should have to do is run - update-manager -d [01:05] the downside of linux is the making of fresh install and getting back to your old configurations [01:06] have to install and configure many things [01:06] you don't keep backups? [01:06] floating: if you have a good backup of /etc, and /home that redoing things is usually easy [01:06] hmm [01:06] yeah, most of your customizations are probably stored in hidden files in your home dir [01:08] if have many software installed from sources, installing those again takes time [01:09] floating: depending how/where they got installed, you may only need to copy files [01:09] if you have many app's compiled from source then you probably recompile often [01:10] assuming you're using *ubuntu, that is [01:10] of course I tend to write myself a script to compile a package... that way I can repeat the compile at any point in time [01:10] or any debian-based distro, considering how many app's are in the repository [01:10] you mean a make script? [01:11] no... I mean I frequently want to run configure with lots of options [01:11] ohh gotcha [01:11] so I write a script that runs configure with all the options... so i don't forget what I did [01:11] very good idea [01:11] also handy for deploying identical configs to multiple machiens [01:11] of course when i am really serious about something I take the time to actually make a debian package [01:12] it really is pretty easy once you understand all the parts involved [01:12] welp I'm out [01:12] south park tonight :-D === thinkmassive is now known as think-away [02:09] Hello! I'm trying to install from an alternate install cd to a powerbook g3 [02:10] and i get an error "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" [02:10] but.. i'm booted off of the CD-ROM drive. [02:10] any ideas? [02:25] Can someone tell me why every link for xubuntu 8.04 is 404? [02:26] because it hasn't been released yet? [02:26] The beta [02:26] because the RC is available? [02:26] No links on the main page [02:27] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.04/rc/ ? [02:28] Well, couldnt find that link anywhere on xubuntu.com [02:29] http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/804rc [02:42] is anyone in here running hardy? [02:43] xubuntu hardy? [02:43] let me know if you are running it. thanks. === jja-bar1 is now known as ja-barr [02:53] hey there, every time I log in, i get a pretty much blank desktop. I have to go Applications>settings>desktop settings, and click "allow xfce to manage the desktop" to get my picture and icons back, the setting won't stay from one session to the next [03:10] is it risky to get rid of gnome (apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop)? [03:12] owen1: if you have xubuntu installed, no. i would recommend installing the xubuntu-desktop though [03:15] j1mc: i had ubuntu and installed xubuntu (apt-get). i am happy with xubuntu and want to get rid of unused packages. [03:16] j1mc: can i do apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop? is it risky? [03:16] j1mc: will i still get updates ect? [03:16] ect? [03:17] etc [03:18] owen1: i would probably recommend doing it from a terminal - pressing ctrl-alt-f3, and doing "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu desktop && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" [03:18] it would not be risky [03:19] j1mc: ok. i already have xubuntu-desktop. why do i need to install it again? [03:30] i dunno... maybe just do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop --reinstall" to make sure everything is still there after you remove ubuntu-desktop? i'm not a total expert, but it couldn't hurt. it won't overwrite any of your config files. [03:35] j1mc: ok. thank you. [03:44] removing ubuntu-desktiop will not make all the extra packages go away... You would want to also try running apt-get autoremove after getting rid of ubuntu-desktop [03:49] is vinagre only available on the website? [03:49] why can't i get from apt-get? [04:15] what pdf viewer do u use? [04:27] i have xubuntu 7.04 i believe. can synaptic upgrde me to the current release? [04:28] or just to feisty upgrades? [04:39] freerise: you would have to upgrade to 7.10 and then 8.04 [04:39] there is no direct upgrade path from 7.04. :( [04:39] it might be better to back up your data and do a new install. ?? maybe [04:40] ah, ok [04:40] really i have no real data, this is a young fs [04:40] good luck! [04:40] ah, ok [04:41] i have just been running synaptic over night to upgrade and install gnome stuff [05:33] Hello all :) Is there a way to enable graphics similar to those in GNOME? [05:42] I'm sure its not that difficult to get gnome, #apt-get install gdm ? [05:42] or like icons/theme? [05:44] Well, I recently installed the Xfce environment on Ubuntu so that I can switch to Xubuntu at login, but I was wondering if the Compiz Fusion (I think that's what it is) effects could somehow be enabled [05:45] Like the dragging effects, minimizing, maximizing, etc. [05:50] was hoping someone here could help me trouble shoot a possible problem on my site [06:01] is xubuntu have a pdf viewer? [06:01] i can't open pdfs.. [06:18] is anyone here? [06:18] i just got xubuntu and can't open pdfs. anyone? [06:19] is there a default app for pdf? === Nicekiwi9[zZz]_ is now known as Nicekiwi9 [08:32] owen1 :i guess its evince document viewer [08:32] cant remember, installing this, but its working [09:22] * Linuturk pokes #xubuntu [09:23] I have big problem [09:24] we only accept little problems here [09:24] I install 8.04 server, then update, then install xubuntu-desktop, then after login gdm, i get wallpaper and a terminal with no window borders, and no panels [09:25] *8.04 server rc [09:39] problem fixed, xubuntu-desktop does not set xfce as default session [09:52] is xubuntu also gonna be released today? [09:54] xubuntu is a community run os - it be released a little later [09:54] *might [09:55] ok, i'll try out ubuntu then for a few days, have to fill up my newly partitioned hdd, dont want it to get cold :) [09:57] hehe [10:12] hey guys [10:13] recently my quit button on the top panel cant be used to logout my user [10:13] usually we shud get a dialog with the logout, swtich user, restart, shutdown optinos [10:13] optoins* [10:13] options* [10:14] but i get a dialog box asking me to quit the xfce panel [10:14] and the quit option in the applications menu doesnt do anything either [10:14] the only way i could shutdown properly was by using the 'shutdown -h now' command or 'poweroff' [11:23] recently my quit button on the top panel cant be used to logout my user [11:23] usually we shud get a dialog with the logout, swtich user, restart, shutdown options [11:23] but i get a dialog box asking me to quit the xfce panel [11:23] and the quit option in the applications menu doesnt do anything either [11:23] the only way i could shutdown properly was by using the 'shutdown -h now' command or 'poweroff' [11:23] is there any fix to this? [11:24] MiKa^: this happens when the panel wasn't started with the whole desktop at login, but was started later, separately [11:24] is there a server version of xubuntu? [11:24] yes [11:24] but how could it be? [11:24] ohh xubuntu [11:24] i didnt do any settings to make it run like that [11:25] kennethr: you can just get the server version of ubuntu and install xfce on that [11:26] totalwormface: can I run ubuntu w/out any X? [11:27] kennethr: yes, that's wat the server version does [11:27] TheSheep: so what can i do to fix this problem? [11:27] but you can't run xubuntu without x :P [11:29] MiKa^: no idea, you could try deleting your session files in ~/.cache/sessions and relogging [11:29] will try, thx [11:35] Wow. This channel is really calm... [11:38] what am i missing to compile apps? [11:39] ./configure [11:39] bash: ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied [11:39] freerise: you have build-essential installed? [11:39] think a make clean will fix it? [11:39] Odd-rationale: not sure [11:39] i'll chk [11:40] freerise: did you install build-essential? sudo apt-get install build-essential [11:40] i was using synaptic [11:40] freerise: that is fine [11:40] permission denied to the /bin/sh? [11:41] looks like the system is pretty much broken [11:41] i know? [11:41] build-essential is installed [11:41] Reading state information... Done [11:41] build-essential is already the newest version. [11:42] freerise: did you run as root? [11:42] sudo [11:42] Odd-rationale: configure shouldn't be run as root [11:42] you mean my compile? [11:42] i did it as user [11:42] ok. dunno then. sorry. [11:43] freerise: can you run /bin/sh at all? [11:43] i'll see [11:43] seems so [11:43] joe@spinup:~$ /bin/sh [11:43] $ [11:43] what does the first line of that configure script say? [11:45] #! /bin/sh [11:45] # [11:45] # Original version (C) 2000 Pontscho/fresh!mindworkz [11:45] # pontscho@makacs.poliod.hu [11:45] ok, edit it and remove that space between #! and /bin/sh [11:45] oh? huh [11:46] you can submit a bug report to the author of this application [11:46] same error [11:46] hmm... no space after the /bin/sh? [11:47] #!/bin/sh [11:47] # [11:47] # Original version (C) 2000 Pontscho/fresh!mindworkz [11:47] oh, i'll check that [11:47] what if you run it with 'sh configure' ? [11:48] TheSheep: it runs?!? what does that mean? [11:49] there is something wrong with that first line [11:49] maybe dos newline, maybe some other whitespace character that we cannot see [11:49] gotta run [11:49] i checked with vim and there is no trailing space [11:50] thanks TheSheep [11:51] i dont suppose that it could have anything to do with the fact that i de-tared in slackware [11:56] wow, i wonder what the problem is [11:56] joe@spinup:/media/disk/home/joe/SVN/mplayer$ make [11:56] ./version.sh `cc -dumpversion` [11:56] /bin/sh: ./version.sh: Permission denied [11:56] make: *** [version.h] Error 126 [11:56] make isn't getting anywhere either :(( [11:57] i have to run too. i'll have to get back to this later [11:57] thanks all :) later [11:57] freerise: try changing #!/bin/sh to #!/bin/bash [12:24] hey, cody-somerville. Great Job!!! [12:25] Thanks :) [12:25] can't wait! [12:25] Be sure to thank the rest of the team! It wouldn't be possible w/o them [12:26] Release party is in #ubuntu-release-party btw! [12:26] Go spread Xubuntu joy and love! :D [12:26] I know. I'm there [12:26] will do :) [12:26] this channel is a haven of silence to relax from the party-channel ;) [12:27] yep. it hasn't even grown... [12:27] hehe. [12:27] #ubuntu is almost up to 1600 peeps O.O [12:28] I'm sure we'll get some more folks rolling in as the day goes on. :) [12:28] you plan on releaseing very soon after the official ubuntu? [12:32] i hope..all my machines run on xubuntu [12:37] hi [12:37] when will the xubuntu 8.04 arrive? [12:38] Next week. [12:38] thats the million dollar..err..euro..question [12:38] hi. i want to extend my ext3 partition where my xubuntu install is. however there is swap space right after the xubuntu install. can i remove the swap space and ext3 over it, and make new swap space after that ? [12:39] with simple partition magic 8 extend/ make partition tool [12:39] and will it have hungarian interface? [12:44] bgergo94: Sure. [12:44] OK [12:44] thanks [12:45] i asked it anywhere: when will the asus eeepc arrive to hungary? [12:48] is there a way to get each workspace to have a different background? (like in kde) [12:48] cpk1: no [12:49] rats [12:49] is it sad that that is a major bummer for me? [12:50] Different backgrounds is a showstopper? [12:50] Man, you got the priorities right. [12:51] ahaha well, it would have been nice, I am still giving it the full run through it deserves though dont worry [12:51] rargh [12:51] my usb xubuntu gav me so much problems [12:51] that im rebuilding it from scratch... for the third time this week [12:52] cpk1: check wallpapoz (for gnome though). not sure if it works in xfce: http://www.getdeb.net/app/wallpapoz [12:52] the biggest block for me right now is I am comfortable in my kde zone and need to figure out how to do everything again [12:52] Release party in #ubuntu-release-party :) [12:52] thanks Odd-rationale [12:53] only a party yet.. ;-) [12:57] anyway..time to get yet another coffee... [13:01] anyone uses xubuntu on USB pendrive here? [13:03] I haven't but I've heard of people doing it, MiKa^ [13:03] well, i have been using it all the time [13:03] just wanted to see if there's anyone who does it too :) [13:04] my uni computers are full of viruses [13:04] so i run my own xubuntu [13:14] greetings, I bet I'm like the 17826487346th to ask today but... any ETA? :D [13:14] Next week. [13:14] uh? [13:18] lol [13:19] Soon! :D [13:19] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ there's 8.04 there but the homepage doesn't say anything [13:19] That isn't the official image. [13:20] Please don't post links until we announce it is ready ;] [13:20] cody-somerville: my bad, got the link from another ubuntu site claiming HH is out... [13:21] no harm intended [13:21] no problem :) [13:22] btw, how does a CD upgrade manages packages that are not included in th standard ISO? [13:22] It'll look to the internet [13:22] do I get an update reminder when I connect later? [13:22] Yup [13:23] ok [13:23] oh and how about rep keys I added manually (.e.g Wine) [13:23] * cody-somerville nods. [13:23] ubuntu is out now.. [13:24] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html [13:25] now we have to wait for the official xubuntu release [13:26] http://www.xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release [13:26] access denied [13:26] hehe [13:27] yeah :) [13:32] connection time out on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ [13:32] :] [13:32] it's always busy on release days [13:34] Hello everyone! [13:34] I have an announcement to make! [13:34] ... [13:35] ... [13:35] ... [13:35] access denied is gone [13:35] ... [13:36] I'm proud to announce that Xubuntu 8.04 is released!! :D [13:36] hurray!!!! [13:36] :D [13:36] I'm seeding it right now. [13:36] *cough* [13:36] (<-.-) [13:36] (-.->) [13:36] congratulations and many thanks to the xubuntu team [13:36] the screenshot is a tad big... [13:36] like my "Travolta in Pulp Fiction" smilie? [13:36] aye thanks! [13:36] * cody-somerville notes that the release announcement page still need a little tender love and care ;] [13:37] hurrahh === cody-somerville changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Xubuntu 8.04 Released: http://xubuntu.org/news/hardy/release [13:37] hehe [13:38] mirrors still syncing? [13:38] * cody-somerville nods. [13:38] nevermind..now i can wait some minutes more.. [13:39] uh wait... which to download? alternate or desktop? [13:39] Please use torrents [13:39] http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [13:39] MiKa^, Alternate is a text-based installer (good for older systems) [13:39] The desktop is the desktop installer/live cd [13:39] oh ok thx [13:39] You require atleast 192mb of ram to install from the live cd. [13:39] are the torrents there the correct ones? [13:39] I believe so, yes. [13:41] whee torrenting [13:41] cody-somerville: file sizes don't match [13:41] o.O [13:42] ah nope.... SUF [13:42] SUF? [13:42] Stupid User Failure [13:42] Ah. [13:42] So everything is good? :) [13:43] cody-somerville: actually, I clicked on the Torrent link: http://www.xubuntu.org/get#hardy [13:43] doh [13:43] and it sent me to Gutsy D/L torrent page [13:43] lol [13:43] Updated link [13:44] anyone got link for xubuntu new release on torrent? [13:44] http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/ [13:44] cody-somerville: US Hardy mirror down? [13:44] cody-somerville: thanks :) I thought "dang this IS a fast connection me got today" ;) [13:44] hehe [13:45] Linuturk, Hardy was just released. [13:45] Linuturk, Mirrors haven't synced yet. [13:45] ah [13:45] k [13:46] * grothesk ist seeding ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu as alternate aswell as desktop iso. [13:46] thanks cody [13:46] wow, these servers are hammered [13:46] Linuturk: Use torrent. [13:47] Cheers everyone!! :) [13:47] lol, I am . . . getting the torrent file is taking a long time ;p [13:47] Using hammered Servers will take even longer. Believe me. [13:48] darnit, utorrent acting up [13:48] µtorrent? [13:48] ye [13:49] nvm fixed [14:03] please confirm and post logfiles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/202959 [14:03] Launchpad bug 202959 in debian-installer "[hardy] generating locales stalls on 64mb ram" [Undecided,Confirmed] === grothesk is now known as groth|afk === groth|afk is now known as grothesk [14:58] hello [14:59] hi [14:59] Ben_Cs: Hi [14:59] good day [15:00] i installed hardy when it became release candidate. and kept it updated. one of the updates deleted update manager. so i don't know if i can upgrade to the "hardy release" version, and how. [15:00] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , does nothing [15:00] o.O [15:01] anyone please? [15:02] im sorry but i cant help [15:03] Ben_Cs: If you installed the RC and kept i updated, then you're already running the final release. [15:03] Ben_Cs: No need to upgrade anything, Ben_Cs [15:03] Ben_Cs: And then, obviously, there's nothing to upgrade. [15:03] soren: so why one of the updates removed the update manager? [15:03] Dunno. [15:04] Still, if apt-get dist-upgrade is silent, then you're fine. [15:04] If your sources.list is alright... [15:07] Hello. how can you keep Firefox bookmarks from Gutsy if you want to install Hardy using Desktop CD? [15:07] ok thNKA [15:07] thanks [15:08] jarnos: export them, go to manage bookmarks and choose file then export [15:09] jarnos: there also a lot of settings in your /home/user directory with a period in front of them enable hidden file viewing to grab some of them if you want too [15:13] h4mx0r: Thanks :) === think-away is now known as thinkmassive [15:14] jarnos: no prob [15:19] well i installed back the update-manager package that was removed on one update. how do i make it, like it was before, that is sits in tray icon and checks for updates periodically? [15:20] Ben_Cs: settings->autostarted applications [15:20] u mean it can actually sit in the tray just by autostarting it? [15:22] we could use more seeds :} [15:23] agree [15:23]