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| Hobbsee | \o/ mrevell! | 04:52 |
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| wgrant | Oh, it wasn't 24 days late? | 04:53 |
| wgrant | This is good. | 04:54 |
| Hobbsee | they've ditched the real name policy! | 04:54 |
| wgrant | So I saw. | 04:55 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: thanks for trying, anyway. | 04:58 |
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| Hobbsee | mpt: even if the answer seems to be less than satisfactory. | 04:59 |
| Hobbsee | (imo, anyway) | 05:00 |
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| mpt | Goooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 09:30 |
| mpt | Hobbsee, judge that by our future availability, not by the exact methods we use to achieve it :-) | 09:36 |
| mpt | Also, I prefer a recovery system that doesn't require user intervention over one that does | 09:37 |
| mpt | so what transpired in the meeting is good news, I think. | 09:37 |
| wgrant | mpt: AFAICS all that transpired was people saying it wasn't an issue, because it was resolved within minutes of people noticing. I saw nothing about making people notice, unless that comment about talking to IS counts. | 09:48 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Around? | 09:48 |
| bigjools | wgrant: aye | 09:49 |
| wgrant | bigjools: I saw your description change on the MOTU archive admin spec... not just anybody in MOTU should be able to do that - you'll still definitely need a new celeb for that. | 09:50 |
| bigjools | wgrant: it's all in hand, fear not | 09:50 |
| wgrant | For build administration it's OK without a new celeb, but not archive administration. | 09:50 |
| bigjools | we are not using celebs, that's all | 09:50 |
| wgrant | bigjools: OK, as long as you're not opening it up entirely. | 09:51 |
| bigjools | wgrant: no, we might appear stupid sometimes but we're not that stupid | 09:52 |
| wgrant | Heh, the spec makes it appear somewhat like it was being restricted to uploaders. | 09:52 |
| wgrant | Er, bug, not spec. I mixed up my mail | 09:53 |
| bigjools | I had a long-ish chat with Jordan yesterday and he's clued in | 09:53 |
| wgrant | Great. | 09:54 |
| mpt | wgrant, that was just kiko. He didn't mean that. | 09:54 |
| wgrant | mpt: I thought I saw SteveA say something of the sort, but perhaps. | 10:12 |
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| Hobbsee | mpt: i do too, but i prefer multiple processes for if something screws up. backups, if you will. | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | as in, in the likely event that launchpad dies, AND IS doesn't respond, say, within an hour, then this procedure occurs. | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: or whatever your preferred timeframe is | 12:52 |
| Hobbsee | mpt: i wasnt' expecting you to replace IS with something community driven. | 12:54 |
| Hobbsee | just if launchpad and IS fail, which it did over the weekend, and also did over christmas. | 12:54 |
| mantiena | Hi all | 13:03 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 13:04 |
| emgent | heya people | 13:12 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 13:13 |
| Hobbsee | good evening mrevell | 13:13 |
| mrevell | morning Hobbsee | 13:15 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #221866 in launchpad "mirror sites with multiple hosts behind one name should be probed more completely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221866 | 14:01 |
| marnanel | Hey folks. I am a little tired of seeing the default icon beside https://launchpad.net/metacity (I'm one of the upstream maintainers). I don't have permissions to change the branding; how do I find out who does? | 15:11 |
| wgrant | marnanel: Ask a question at the URL in the topic. You could even get the ownership of the project transferred to you, most likely. | 15:14 |
| marnanel | wgrant: Okay, lovely. Thank you! | 15:17 |
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| marnanel | wgrant: "the URL in the topic" being help.l.n? I see lots of pages of help there but nowhere to ask a question (and actually it says "Contact us at #launchpad on Freenode"). Sorry to be slow. | 15:31 |
| wgrant | marnanel: answers.l.n | 15:32 |
| wgrant | A few characters later. | 15:32 |
| * marnanel laughs. sorry | 15:32 | |
| Zelut | can anyone help me with moving my LP project to a new URL? | 15:47 |
| wgrant | Zelut: Ask a question at the URL in the topic. | 15:47 |
| wgrant | An admin should attend to your request soon. | 15:47 |
| Zelut | wgrant: I did post a question on the answers section and then got an email this morning saying after 15 days it has expired. | 15:48 |
| Zelut | so I thought I'd drop in here and poke someone about it | 15:48 |
| wgrant | Zelut: Reopen it if you can - it has probably just been overlooked, and the reopening email may elicit a response. | 15:49 |
| Zelut | wgrant: done. thank you. | 15:51 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #221938 in malone "Email interface crashes when an attachment file name contains a slash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221938 | 16:04 |
| ubotu | New bug: #221988 in rosetta "Preserve XPI external entities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221988 | 17:03 |
| ubotu | New bug: #221982 in launchpad "Out of list project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221982 | 17:04 |
| seb128 | hi | 17:08 |
| seb128 | did the upstream watches updates code stopped running or something? | 17:08 |
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| gmb | seb128: Why do you ask? | 17:20 |
| seb128 | because the desktop bugs have tasks which are in an unknow state for days now | 17:21 |
| seb128 | and I though the update used to run daily or something | 17:21 |
| seb128 | that's handy to know when there is a patch available to backport from upstream for example | 17:22 |
| gmb | seb128: Can you give me an example bug? I'll look into it. | 17:25 |
| gmb | Bug watches should get updated once a day. | 17:25 |
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| seb128 | gmb: bug #210468 | 17:26 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 210468 in gvfs "try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210468 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) | 17:26 |
| * gmb looks | 17:27 | |
| seb128 | gmb: or bug #216763 | 17:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 216763 in gvfs "gvfsd-http crashed with SIGSEGV in soup_str_case_hash()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216763 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) | 17:28 |
| seb128 | or bug #216763 | 17:28 |
| seb128 | ups, #217975 rather | 17:28 |
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| gmb | seb128: Well, the bug watches against bugzilla.gnome.org are being updated. | 17:30 |
| gmb | So this is a bit weird. | 17:30 |
| gmb | seb128: Let me look into it and I'll get back to you. | 17:30 |
| seb128 | gmb: right, I got 8 mails from Bug Watch Updater this week | 17:31 |
| seb128 | gmb: and we tens of watch every week usually | 17:32 |
| seb128 | +add | 17:32 |
| gmb | seb128: Right. I think I know what the problem is, but I just want to check before I put my money where my mouth is. Bear with me. | 17:33 |
| seb128 | gmb: the activity seems "normal" until march 27 in my inbox | 17:33 |
| seb128 | and very slow since | 17:33 |
| seb128 | gmb: alright, no hurry, thanks ;-) | 17:33 |
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| gmb | seb128: Right. I've spoken to our sysadmins and I've done a bit of poking around. | 17:49 |
| gmb | Basically, the problem is that we've implemented some load balancing to avoid hitting remote bugtrackers for too many bugs at one time. | 17:50 |
| gmb | For exampl, we have 7000 gnome-bugs watches. | 17:50 |
| seb128 | you are telling me that we open too many GNOME bug upstream there ;-) | 17:51 |
| gmb | Shh, don't tell anyone else ;) | 17:51 |
| seb128 | ah ah | 17:51 |
| gmb | Seriously though, our problem was that we weren't updating all of them every day. | 17:51 |
| seb128 | 7000 seems to be a lot, do you count closed bugs? | 17:51 |
| gmb | seb128: Yes, because they could be reopened. | 17:51 |
| seb128 | alright | 17:52 |
| gmb | Anyway, we weren't checking often enough, or getting enough bugs in one go. | 17:52 |
| gmb | So we missed some of them. | 17:52 |
| seb128 | I see | 17:52 |
| gmb | seb128: We're going to fix that by having our import script run more frequently. | 17:52 |
| gmb | So come Monday everything should be sorted out. | 17:52 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 17:52 |
| gmb | seb128: No problem. | 17:52 |
| LaserJock | mrevell: ping | 17:52 |
| seb128 | gmb: one idea for your balancing though, check closed bugs less often | 17:53 |
| seb128 | gmb: that's likely a high number of watchs where things are really not changing often | 17:53 |
| gmb | True enough. | 17:53 |
| gmb | We're actually going through quite a bit of refactoring work in that area, so that's one of the things that we might well look into. Thanks for the suggestion. | 17:54 |
| seb128 | you are welcome ;-) | 17:54 |
| mrevell | hey LaserJock | 17:54 |
| LaserJock | mrevell: do I understand your blog post correctly to mean that bug contacts will now have access to private bugs? | 17:55 |
| LaserJock | i.e. we have a rather large privilege escalation | 17:55 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: I'm sorry, I made a stupid mistake there. | 17:56 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: I'll post a correction immediately. | 17:56 |
| LaserJock | mrevell: does "target bugs to milestones" mean they can make nominations or accept nominations? | 17:58 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: That's setting something a series goal, which is still down to the driver to accept. | 18:00 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: They can target a bug to a milestone, though. | 18:00 |
| LaserJock | mrevell: "regular" users can't set the privacy of a bug or mark bug reports as security issues? | 18:02 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: They can but I included it in the role as it's often something taken on by bug contacts. Perhaps that's confusing. I'll remove it. | 18:02 |
| LaserJock | mrevell: but can't any users nominate a bug to a milestone? | 18:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is being changed and what additional privileges bug supervisors are getting :-) | 18:04 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: No, not as far as I'm aware. | 18:04 |
| LaserJock | you sure, we have our contributors do it all the time | 18:04 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: Damn, my blog post has failed, in that case. There are no additional priviliedges. | 18:04 |
| mrevell | er, privileges | 18:04 |
| mrevell | it's just a name change. | 18:04 |
| LaserJock | I don't think they're all in the ubuntu-bugcontrol team | 18:05 |
| LaserJock | well, the statuses thing could be a new privilege right? | 18:05 |
| LaserJock | what about Importance? | 18:05 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: No, the statuses have been in place for a long time. | 18:06 |
| LaserJock | ok, so then what's the difference between a Bug Subscriber and a Bug Supervisor again? :-) | 18:06 |
| mrevell | Hmm, LaserJock I think I should ask BjornT to intervene here :) | 18:07 |
| BjornT | mrevell, LaserJock: 'bug contact' has been renamed to 'bug supervisor'. that's pretty much all to it :) we renamed it, since a 'bug contact' doesn't have to be subscribed to all the bug mail anymore. | 18:09 |
| LaserJock | BjornT: how does that work? | 18:10 |
| LaserJock | a Bug Supervisor can just unsubscribe from bugs like a normal user would? | 18:11 |
| LaserJock | doesn't seem to work for me on edge | 18:13 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: no, not quite. some someone gets set as 'bug supervisor' for a project, he will automatically be (implicitly) subscried to the project's bugs. however, the bug supervisor choose to remove the subscription, and then he won't be subscribed to the implicitly subscribed bugs anymore. | 18:13 |
| LaserJock | ok, so: | 18:13 |
| LaserJock | 1) this is only for Projects, right? | 18:13 |
| LaserJock | 2) current bug contacts are not automatically turned into bug supervisors? | 18:14 |
| BjornT | LaserJock: this is for Products and Distributions. they current bug contacts are automatically turned into bug supervisors, with a subscription. it's just a name change. | 18:20 |
| LaserJock | but not for packages, right? | 18:22 |
| LaserJock | which is very key, since there are waaaaay more package bug contacts than Product or Distribution bug contacts | 18:23 |
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| BjornT | LaserJock: right, not for packages. 'bug contact' for packages were renamed to 'subscriber'. that's what they were, they never had any special privileges. | 18:26 |
| LaserJock | so that's an important distinction, IMO | 18:26 |
| mrevell | bjornT So, I should make that clear in the blog post. | 18:26 |
| mrevell | Okay, thanks LaserJock | 18:26 |
| LaserJock | you don't necessarily want to write to the 1% of people will be affected ;-) | 18:27 |
| LaserJock | and get the rest of us all excited ;-) | 18:27 |
| mrevell | LaserJock: Sorry, the blog post starts off talking about project bug contact but it's obviously not clear enough. Thanks for letting me know. | 18:28 |
| mrevell | I've got to shoot. Back later. | 18:28 |
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| nxvl | hi! | 18:57 |
| nxvl | is there any problem with openID login and ubuntu store? | 18:57 |
| nxvl | i can't log in | 18:57 |
| emgent | heya | 20:06 |
| ubotu | New bug: #222097 in launchpad-documentation "help.launchpad.net theme confusingly similar to Launchpad theme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222097 | 20:11 |
| mtaylor | statik: around | 20:31 |
| mtaylor | ? | 20:31 |
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| Rinchen | mtaylor, it's after his normal hours | 22:11 |
| Rinchen | mtaylor, if he has normal hours :-) | 22:11 |
| Rinchen | nxvl, really? | 22:11 |
| Rinchen | nxvl, I would love to hear about it | 22:12 |
| Rinchen | nxvl, we've been seeing intermittent issues. I think it's the store's code but I've had some difficulty in pinning it down. | 22:12 |
| Rinchen | nxvl, can you email me a step by step of what happens? joey@canonical.com | 22:12 |
| korpios | Launchpad's "register" form states "Register an *upstream* open source project" ... what if I just want to register a new project that isn't already hosted anywhere else? Am I at the wrong form? | 22:14 |
| rockstar_ | korpios, you're at the right form. | 22:15 |
| korpios | okay ... the upstream reference is a bit confusing :) | 22:15 |
| rockstar_ | Just fill out the information, and then you can hash out the details once the project is created | 22:16 |
| rockstar_ | You're right though, the upstream is a bit confusing | 22:16 |
| Rinchen | yeah, it of course means upstream from Ubuntu/LP | 22:19 |
| * Rinchen wonders if we have a bug on that. | 22:20 | |
| Rinchen | korpios, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-documentation/+bug/222172 | 22:28 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 222172 in launchpad-documentation "The word "upstream" is confusing on the project registration page" [Undecided,New] | 22:28 |
| korpios | Rinchen: thanks :) | 22:29 |
| ubotu | New bug: #222172 in launchpad-documentation "The word "upstream" is confusing on the project registration page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222172 | 22:35 |
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| korpios | Hmm, in search results, it's a bit odd that the description, not the summary, is shown for projects. Is that intentional? (I'll file a bug report, I suppose.) ^_^ | 22:45 |
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| apachelogger_ | anyone working on rosetta around? | 23:09 |
| ubotu | New bug: #222200 in launchpad "Show number of attachments for held messages" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222200 | 23:41 |
| Rinchen | apachelogger_, perhaps not at this hour. Off chance I might be able to help | 23:55 |
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