=== fta_ is now known as fta === gnomefre4k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === boomer` is now known as boomer [04:52] \o/ mrevell! [04:53] Oh, it wasn't 24 days late? [04:54] This is good. [04:54] they've ditched the real name policy! [04:55] So I saw. [04:58] mpt: thanks for trying, anyway. === ionutjula is now known as fdd_ [04:59] mpt: even if the answer seems to be less than satisfactory. [05:00] (imo, anyway) === boomer` is now known as boomer === asac_ is now known as asac [09:30] Goooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [09:36] Hobbsee, judge that by our future availability, not by the exact methods we use to achieve it :-) [09:37] Also, I prefer a recovery system that doesn't require user intervention over one that does [09:37] so what transpired in the meeting is good news, I think. [09:48] mpt: AFAICS all that transpired was people saying it wasn't an issue, because it was resolved within minutes of people noticing. I saw nothing about making people notice, unless that comment about talking to IS counts. [09:48] bigjools: Around? [09:49] wgrant: aye [09:50] bigjools: I saw your description change on the MOTU archive admin spec... not just anybody in MOTU should be able to do that - you'll still definitely need a new celeb for that. [09:50] wgrant: it's all in hand, fear not [09:50] For build administration it's OK without a new celeb, but not archive administration. [09:50] we are not using celebs, that's all [09:51] bigjools: OK, as long as you're not opening it up entirely. [09:52] wgrant: no, we might appear stupid sometimes but we're not that stupid [09:52] Heh, the spec makes it appear somewhat like it was being restricted to uploaders. [09:53] Er, bug, not spec. I mixed up my mail [09:53] I had a long-ish chat with Jordan yesterday and he's clued in [09:54] Great. [09:54] wgrant, that was just kiko. He didn't mean that. [10:12] mpt: I thought I saw SteveA say something of the sort, but perhaps. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:52] mpt: i do too, but i prefer multiple processes for if something screws up. backups, if you will. [12:52] as in, in the likely event that launchpad dies, AND IS doesn't respond, say, within an hour, then this procedure occurs. [12:52] mpt: or whatever your preferred timeframe is [12:54] mpt: i wasnt' expecting you to replace IS with something community driven. [12:54] just if launchpad and IS fail, which it did over the weekend, and also did over christmas. [13:03] Hi all [13:04] heya [13:12] heya people [13:13] heya [13:13] good evening mrevell [13:15] morning Hobbsee === fdd-0 is now known as fdd [14:01] New bug: #221866 in launchpad "mirror sites with multiple hosts behind one name should be probed more completely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221866 [15:11] Hey folks. I am a little tired of seeing the default icon beside https://launchpad.net/metacity (I'm one of the upstream maintainers). I don't have permissions to change the branding; how do I find out who does? [15:14] marnanel: Ask a question at the URL in the topic. You could even get the ownership of the project transferred to you, most likely. [15:17] wgrant: Okay, lovely. Thank you! === cpro1 is now known as cprov [15:31] wgrant: "the URL in the topic" being help.l.n? I see lots of pages of help there but nowhere to ask a question (and actually it says "Contact us at #launchpad on Freenode"). Sorry to be slow. [15:32] marnanel: answers.l.n [15:32] A few characters later. [15:32] * marnanel laughs. sorry [15:47] can anyone help me with moving my LP project to a new URL? [15:47] Zelut: Ask a question at the URL in the topic. [15:47] An admin should attend to your request soon. [15:48] wgrant: I did post a question on the answers section and then got an email this morning saying after 15 days it has expired. [15:48] so I thought I'd drop in here and poke someone about it [15:49] Zelut: Reopen it if you can - it has probably just been overlooked, and the reopening email may elicit a response. [15:51] wgrant: done. thank you. === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [16:04] New bug: #221938 in malone "Email interface crashes when an attachment file name contains a slash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221938 [17:03] New bug: #221988 in rosetta "Preserve XPI external entities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221988 [17:04] New bug: #221982 in launchpad "Out of list project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221982 [17:08] hi [17:08] did the upstream watches updates code stopped running or something? === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [17:20] seb128: Why do you ask? [17:21] because the desktop bugs have tasks which are in an unknow state for days now [17:21] and I though the update used to run daily or something [17:22] that's handy to know when there is a patch available to backport from upstream for example [17:25] seb128: Can you give me an example bug? I'll look into it. [17:25] Bug watches should get updated once a day. === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:26] gmb: bug #210468 [17:26] Launchpad bug 210468 in gvfs "try to access a .Trash-$USER directory on autofs mounts" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210468 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) [17:27] * gmb looks [17:28] gmb: or bug #216763 [17:28] Launchpad bug 216763 in gvfs "gvfsd-http crashed with SIGSEGV in soup_str_case_hash()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/216763 - Assigned to Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) [17:28] or bug #216763 [17:28] ups, #217975 rather === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [17:30] seb128: Well, the bug watches against bugzilla.gnome.org are being updated. [17:30] So this is a bit weird. [17:30] seb128: Let me look into it and I'll get back to you. [17:31] gmb: right, I got 8 mails from Bug Watch Updater this week [17:32] gmb: and we tens of watch every week usually [17:32] +add [17:33] seb128: Right. I think I know what the problem is, but I just want to check before I put my money where my mouth is. Bear with me. [17:33] gmb: the activity seems "normal" until march 27 in my inbox [17:33] and very slow since [17:33] gmb: alright, no hurry, thanks ;-) === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [17:49] seb128: Right. I've spoken to our sysadmins and I've done a bit of poking around. [17:50] Basically, the problem is that we've implemented some load balancing to avoid hitting remote bugtrackers for too many bugs at one time. [17:50] For exampl, we have 7000 gnome-bugs watches. [17:51] you are telling me that we open too many GNOME bug upstream there ;-) [17:51] Shh, don't tell anyone else ;) [17:51] ah ah [17:51] Seriously though, our problem was that we weren't updating all of them every day. [17:51] 7000 seems to be a lot, do you count closed bugs? [17:51] seb128: Yes, because they could be reopened. [17:52] alright [17:52] Anyway, we weren't checking often enough, or getting enough bugs in one go. [17:52] So we missed some of them. [17:52] I see [17:52] seb128: We're going to fix that by having our import script run more frequently. [17:52] So come Monday everything should be sorted out. [17:52] ok, thanks [17:52] seb128: No problem. [17:52] mrevell: ping [17:53] gmb: one idea for your balancing though, check closed bugs less often [17:53] gmb: that's likely a high number of watchs where things are really not changing often [17:53] True enough. [17:54] We're actually going through quite a bit of refactoring work in that area, so that's one of the things that we might well look into. Thanks for the suggestion. [17:54] you are welcome ;-) [17:54] hey LaserJock [17:55] mrevell: do I understand your blog post correctly to mean that bug contacts will now have access to private bugs? [17:55] i.e. we have a rather large privilege escalation [17:56] LaserJock: I'm sorry, I made a stupid mistake there. [17:56] LaserJock: I'll post a correction immediately. [17:58] mrevell: does "target bugs to milestones" mean they can make nominations or accept nominations? [18:00] LaserJock: That's setting something a series goal, which is still down to the driver to accept. [18:00] LaserJock: They can target a bug to a milestone, though. [18:02] mrevell: "regular" users can't set the privacy of a bug or mark bug reports as security issues? [18:02] LaserJock: They can but I included it in the role as it's often something taken on by bug contacts. Perhaps that's confusing. I'll remove it. [18:03] mrevell: but can't any users nominate a bug to a milestone? [18:04] I'm just trying to figure out what exactly is being changed and what additional privileges bug supervisors are getting :-) [18:04] LaserJock: No, not as far as I'm aware. [18:04] you sure, we have our contributors do it all the time [18:04] LaserJock: Damn, my blog post has failed, in that case. There are no additional priviliedges. [18:04] er, privileges [18:04] it's just a name change. [18:05] I don't think they're all in the ubuntu-bugcontrol team [18:05] well, the statuses thing could be a new privilege right? [18:05] what about Importance? [18:06] LaserJock: No, the statuses have been in place for a long time. [18:06] ok, so then what's the difference between a Bug Subscriber and a Bug Supervisor again? :-) [18:07] Hmm, LaserJock I think I should ask BjornT to intervene here :) [18:09] mrevell, LaserJock: 'bug contact' has been renamed to 'bug supervisor'. that's pretty much all to it :) we renamed it, since a 'bug contact' doesn't have to be subscribed to all the bug mail anymore. [18:10] BjornT: how does that work? [18:11] a Bug Supervisor can just unsubscribe from bugs like a normal user would? [18:13] doesn't seem to work for me on edge [18:13] LaserJock: no, not quite. some someone gets set as 'bug supervisor' for a project, he will automatically be (implicitly) subscried to the project's bugs. however, the bug supervisor choose to remove the subscription, and then he won't be subscribed to the implicitly subscribed bugs anymore. [18:13] ok, so: [18:13] 1) this is only for Projects, right? [18:14] 2) current bug contacts are not automatically turned into bug supervisors? [18:20] LaserJock: this is for Products and Distributions. they current bug contacts are automatically turned into bug supervisors, with a subscription. it's just a name change. [18:22] but not for packages, right? [18:23] which is very key, since there are waaaaay more package bug contacts than Product or Distribution bug contacts === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:26] LaserJock: right, not for packages. 'bug contact' for packages were renamed to 'subscriber'. that's what they were, they never had any special privileges. [18:26] so that's an important distinction, IMO [18:26] bjornT So, I should make that clear in the blog post. [18:26] Okay, thanks LaserJock [18:27] you don't necessarily want to write to the 1% of people will be affected ;-) [18:27] and get the rest of us all excited ;-) [18:28] LaserJock: Sorry, the blog post starts off talking about project bug contact but it's obviously not clear enough. Thanks for letting me know. [18:28] I've got to shoot. Back later. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-afk === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:57] hi! [18:57] is there any problem with openID login and ubuntu store? [18:57] i can't log in [20:06] heya [20:11] New bug: #222097 in launchpad-documentation "help.launchpad.net theme confusingly similar to Launchpad theme" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222097 [20:31] statik: around [20:31] ? === salgado is now known as salgado-brb === salgado-brb is now known as salgado [22:11] mtaylor, it's after his normal hours [22:11] mtaylor, if he has normal hours :-) [22:11] nxvl, really? [22:12] nxvl, I would love to hear about it [22:12] nxvl, we've been seeing intermittent issues. I think it's the store's code but I've had some difficulty in pinning it down. [22:12] nxvl, can you email me a step by step of what happens? joey@canonical.com [22:14] Launchpad's "register" form states "Register an *upstream* open source project" ... what if I just want to register a new project that isn't already hosted anywhere else? Am I at the wrong form? [22:15] korpios, you're at the right form. [22:15] okay ... the upstream reference is a bit confusing :) [22:16] Just fill out the information, and then you can hash out the details once the project is created [22:16] You're right though, the upstream is a bit confusing [22:19] yeah, it of course means upstream from Ubuntu/LP [22:20] * Rinchen wonders if we have a bug on that. [22:28] korpios, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-documentation/+bug/222172 [22:28] Launchpad bug 222172 in launchpad-documentation "The word "upstream" is confusing on the project registration page" [Undecided,New] [22:29] Rinchen: thanks :) [22:35] New bug: #222172 in launchpad-documentation "The word "upstream" is confusing on the project registration page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222172 === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [22:45] Hmm, in search results, it's a bit odd that the description, not the summary, is shown for projects. Is that intentional? (I'll file a bug report, I suppose.) ^_^ === fta_ is now known as fta [23:09] anyone working on rosetta around? [23:41] New bug: #222200 in launchpad "Show number of attachments for held messages" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222200 [23:55] apachelogger_, perhaps not at this hour. Off chance I might be able to help