[00:24] i want 2.6.25 plz [00:25] smallfoot-: you can download it from http://kernel.org/ [00:26] hey, is anybody here? [00:28] bryce, then i have todo mad stuff like compile it [00:28] Forgery, yes plz [00:28] bryce, cant someone compile it, make a .deb and put it in a repo [00:28] hey [00:28] i'm installing the new 8.04 and yea i'm a complete newb to this [00:29] i'm installing it on an old box so it isnt the fastest thing in the world but it could run XP ok so it's not bad [00:29] I get to the screen when I can see the bird as the wallpaper [00:29] but there are no icons on the desktop [00:29] the green cd light is flashing away but nothing is happening [00:29] is this meant to happen? [00:30] Forgery: how much memory does it have? [00:30] erm [00:30] 256 [00:30] i think [00:30] smallfoot-: 2.6.25 was just recently released and is not stable, so only people comfortable with compiling it themselves should be using it [00:30] ooo somethings happening.... [00:31] Forgery: i'm not sure if 256M is enough [00:31] ok the screen just turned off [00:31] really? [00:31] i thought if it could run XP [00:31] Forgery: I would suggest at least 384M, better with 512 [00:31] then it would have no problem with this [00:31] ok let me check the memory [00:31] i think i can still access as windows [00:32] about to find out anyway [00:32] Forgery: I'd be surprised if you could run XP on 256M without performance issues [00:32] Forgery: try the alternate disk maybe, that should install better [00:32] but I haven't used windows in a long time [00:32] Forgery: you may find Xubuntu runs easier on 256m [00:32] ok [00:33] if it's a case of getting a little extra memory then that isnt expensive really [00:34] haha! [00:34] 128 :$ [00:34] Forgery: note that ubuntu doesn't have icons on the desktop by default, so unless you have a usb key plugged in or something then not having icons on the desktop is normal [00:34] i know but there was nothing on the screen, no task bar or anything [00:34] oh oh [00:34] although the 128m memory might explain it! haha [00:35] 128m?? [00:35] 128mb [00:35] ouch, yeah that'd be your problem ;-) [00:35] haha that's funny [00:36] ok anoother question i'd like to ask although it isnt specific to linux [00:36] also, like laga said, the LiveCD loads everything into memory, so on such a low memory system you should use the alternate cd [00:36] is what's the best way to find if I have DDR or DDR2? [00:36] i can only assume it's DDR on my old box, simply because its old [00:36] but it's something I don't know how to dfind out [00:37] is the best way to find the make of the motherboard? [00:38] yeah refer to your mboard manual [00:38] so where do you find the name of your motherboard on it [00:38] Forgery: also please be aware this channel is more for development and not support, so you may want to ask these q's on #ubuntu [00:38] (see topic) [00:39] Forgery, sudo lshw [00:39] ok, sorry guys, was just the first one i could find [00:39] no prob [00:40] i'll go off investigate [00:40] thank you for your help guys! much appreciated [00:40] bye [00:45] hi. what is the new package name for vim-full in 8.04? [00:45] apt-cache show vim-full [00:47] tried that. doesn't return anything [00:47] suggest vim-gnome [00:47] You might not have universe enabled. Also, please see the topic. === fta_ is now known as fta [00:49] universe is enabled. sorry if this is not a devel question. [00:49] hoped that someone in here had the same issue === gnomefre4k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [01:47] when does 8.10 ibex start? when is the first alpha? ;) [01:56] elmo: ping === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === pj_og__ is now known as pj_og [02:54] * Twigathy waves [02:56] Can I request a version bump on a package? The initramfs-tools package has a bug which means dhcp-based nfsroot booting does not work. See debian bug#39514 and ubuntu launchpad bug# 221613. All that is required to fix is to bump from 0.85eubuntu36 to something 0.88 flavoured (Where the bug is allegedly fixed...) [02:57] hardy has just been released [02:57] I'm working around this atm by specifying IP address / netmask etc. manually but it'd be nice if dhcp would work :) [02:57] and hardy+1 not started yet [02:57] a bit of bad timing :P [02:57] yeah, I know :) [02:57] file a bug [02:57] Maybe I should become a beta tester - using weird things like nfsroot.. [02:58] yep - have done so [02:58] Just wanna report a bug here, regarding hal not being restarted upon upgrade to hardy, spent hours working out a problem with banshee and ipods, only to discover hal needed to be restarted manually, I'm told I shouldn't have had to do this, so figured i would report it [02:59] niadh: https://bugs.launchpad.net :) [02:59] I may need some help about specifics to write, but I'll definatly submit it [03:02] niadh: You're meant to reboot after upgrades.... [03:02] niadh: But I thought it was restarted unless you were coming from Dapper. [03:02] I DID reboot after the upgrade [03:02] And i upgraded from 7.10 [03:03] So you had to restart hal twice? [03:03] Just updated my system to all the latest patches via update manager, THEN ran the upgrade procedure. Yeah, system rebooted and then I had to manually restart hal [03:07] just to confirm the upgrade procedure DOES restart hal? === ryan__ is now known as RadiantFire [05:09] -rw-r--r-- 1 jdong jdong 30M 2008-04-24 23:56 urlclassifier3.sqlite [05:09] asac: ^^ err I think the URL classifier thing is a security vulnerability. It's slowing down my browser's performance :D [05:10] asac: but more seriously, it's adding serious latency and CPU spinning to opening every URL. The file regenerates to around that size every few days. [05:17] jdong: what is it? [05:17] Amaranth: I think it's the phishing detector thing [05:17] Amaranth: but it grows at some annoying rate of 5MB/day [05:18] right, i'll disable that then [05:18] could this be why firefox randomly locks up and beats the crap out of my HD? [05:20] Amaranth: exactly [05:20] Amaranth: it's sqlite journaling activity [05:20] Amaranth: which enforces a sync() [05:20] on *every* *page* *load* [05:26] jdong: asac is aware, as is upstream [05:26] upstream is working on a fix [05:27] it's bug 215728 [05:27] Launchpad bug 215728 in firefox-3.0 "High CPU Consumption" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215728 [05:33] Caesar: you should be able to find it on launchpad [05:34] i wonder if this affects liferea [05:34] i think it uses webkit or something to render [05:35] liferea uses xulrunner-1.9, pwnguin... [05:40] jcastro: ok, thank you! [05:40] Good morning! [05:41] wgrant: i dont know a whole lot about the liferea source code, but I do see this: http://liferea.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/liferea/trunk/liferea/src/webkit/ [05:42] jdong: the current plan is for mozilla to attach a patch to an lp bug, then we'll roll it out via ppa. If you could subscribe to the bug and help test when that's available it would help a great deal [05:42] pwnguin: We use the xulrunner-1.9 backend. [05:43] ah, multiple backends, i see [05:43] jcastro: I'd be more than happy to :) [05:43] jdong: <3 === ion__ is now known as ion_ [06:22] good morning === asac_ is now known as asac [06:49] oh dear, this has gotten way out of hand: http://np237.livejournal.com/17716.html [06:50] Good morning [06:51] hi pitti [06:55] Guten Morgen pitti [07:21] help.ubuntu.com still has 7.10 material [07:21] um, I mean no 8.04 === hunger_t is now known as hunger [08:43] tjaalton: yes, it will take at least a few days to get it ready [08:44] tjaalton: but if you file a bug report on ubuntu-doc you can follow its progress [08:44] * mdke gtg [08:47] mdke: ok, no rush :) [08:53] hello, do somebody have problems with Anjuta and glade, I start edit a widget but when I close Anjuta and then I open again and choose glade IDE Anjuta doesn't open [08:55] jdong: do you have your .mozilla dir on a special filesystem? [09:06] I've got a couple of bugs to propose for SRU to Hardy. Do we have to wait for them to be fixed in Intrepid as normal, or can we propose them now? The one I have in mind will be fixed in Intrepid in the first run of the auto-sync. [09:06] james_w: that's fine [09:06] james_w: i. e. feel free to open SRU bugs now, we already did a few [09:07] great, thanks. [09:07] pitti: oh, and thanks for getting back on the ca-certificates SRU, you rock! [09:07] james_w: no problem; sorry for the latency [09:08] it's understandable. [09:13] hey guys [09:13] hey fabbione, how are you? [09:13] pitti: good thanks and you?= [09:14] I'm intrepid today :) [09:14] pitti: eheheh.. [09:14] did they already opened the repo in lp? [09:14] no, not yet [09:14] ok [10:37] hum, bug #215499 [10:37] Launchpad bug 215499 in nautilus "Nautilus not preserving timestamps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215499 [10:38] does anybody has an opinion if a standard copy should preserve timestamps or not? [10:38] I would tend to say that since cp doesn't do it by default nautilus shouldn't [10:38] sounds like cp vs. cp -a to me [10:38] right [10:39] but cp -a is not the default [10:39] I'm not sure it should be in nautilus either [10:39] but I'm no good argument out of "that's the standard unix way" [10:39] s/I'm/I've [10:40] seems like it'd be nice to have a way to do cp -a, though; timestamps are valuable information you might want to preserve in a backup [10:40] even if it isn't the default [10:40] "can't fully use my laptop because of this"... Yay, proportions. [10:41] right [10:41] I don't have a strong opinion on whether it should be the default or not, although I know that I have a reflex of using cp -a unless I explicitly think "hmm, I don't need the timestamp" [10:41] I'll change that to a wishlsit to add an option doing that [10:41] I don't think changing the default makes sense [10:41] bug report says "whether cross-partition or the same partition" - is the behaviour the same for both cases at the moment? [10:41] or maybe a gconf key to change the default [10:42] Perhaps a checkbox, that says "preserve timestamps/permissions"? [10:42] I've to check if cross partition behaves different [10:42] realist: where? [10:43] realist: you usually get no dialog when doing a dnd or ctrl-C, ctrl-V [10:43] seb128: I don't know, I don't use nautilus. In a preferences dialog? [10:43] ok, an option then [10:44] Where does LANG and LC_* get set when I log in on the console? [10:50] soren: doesn't pam_env.so take care of it? [10:51] geser: Oh, there it is. Yes, it does. [10:51] geser: Thanks! [11:15] Hi! I am having problems with consolekit on a fresh hardy install. After the default install I installed kubuntu-desktop. Now in a gnome session, running ck-list-sessions prints "active = FALSE" even for the current session under gnome. As a result automounting usb thumbdrives break because only the active session has permission to do so (by default settings) [11:16] any ideas why the active session is not set correctly or what should I check? [11:16] works for me in KDE [11:17] yes, works for me in kde as well. but not in gnome [11:19] abli: using KDM? [11:20] no. gdm [11:20] I only installed kubuntu-desktop to get kde as a second option. I want to use gnome as default, and have the possibility of switching to kde [11:22] abli: works for me in GNOME, FWIW [11:22] ah, though I don't have kubuntu-desktop installed [11:22] Yeah, I assume it works for everyone but me. The question is, what should be setting that flag so I can debug why it isn't set. [11:25] abli: normally that gets changed by consolekit when the active VT is changed to the one corresponding to the session [11:26] cjwatson, ok. does consolekit write logs somewhere? [11:27] though I admit I don't know whether something else deals with it when the session is initialised [11:27] IME the best way to track what consolekit is doing is to attach a monitor to the D-BUS [11:28] it's a bit hairy ... [11:28] (p.s. I'm not a consolekit expert, I just know what I needed to figure out in order to implement support for it in openssh) [11:29] ok, I'll try that [11:29] I suspect that d-bus messages won't be sent for consolekit's internal actions though [11:30] abli: I believe you can run the daemon with --debug [11:30] ok, I'll try that, too :) [11:30] not sure whether you have to do anything special - you'll probably have to close all sessions and shut down the running daemon first [11:31] probably --debug --no-daemon too [11:50] grrrr. [11:51] Apr 25 12:50:13 madrigal kernel: [18896.521532] gnome-keyring-d[5102]: segfault at 7f511b0d5000 rip 42dce0 rsp 46e90d20 error 7 [11:51] thom: apport? [11:52] thom: I saw a bug on that an hour or two ago. [11:53] laga: unfortunately not [11:53] laga: apport is off now. [11:55] wgrant: i was suggesting that he enables it again to catch the segfault, but it's probably not necessary if there is already a bug report. [11:55] Hm, maybe it was on the forum. I can't see the relevant bug. [11:56] Could be bug #218434, I guess. [11:56] Launchpad bug 218434 in gnome-keyring "gnome-keyring-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218434 [11:58] yeah, pretty hard to tell [11:58] i guess i'll just try again [12:01] Why are my posts to ubuntu-devel being held for moderation saying I'm not a developer? :) [12:01] I'm sending from my @ubuntu.com address. [12:01] cody-somerville: Probably because you need to manually request the sync these days, I guess. [12:01] I've seen a couple of other people complain about that recently. [12:02] Is elmo the person I need to chat with? [12:02] cody-somerville: I think the admins of the list need to add you to a whitelist of some kind first [12:03] Could someone let new virtinst into hardy-proposed, please? [12:07] soren: open a bug, subscribe ubuntu-sru, etc [12:07] soren: and wait for pitti to be back from lunch ;-) [12:07] seb128: Already did. [12:07] Ah.. I did not do that. [12:07] :) [12:07] (wait for pitti to get back from lunch, that is) [12:08] cody-somerville: I wonder if it only looks at direct members of ubuntu-dev - mostly people are members via the motu team these days [12:08] hi, I want to mirror just the latest release of ubuntu. hos is that possible? ~200GB is so much for me [12:09] canburak: use debmirror with --dist=hardy [12:09] cjwatson, but the xml file thingy will return an aggregated list... so unless they're screen scrapping... [12:09] canburak: why would you want to mirror it, to act as a local mirror? [12:09] cody-somerville: I don't know - #canonical-sysadmin would be a good place to ask [12:10] highvoltage: local mirrors are very common and I hardly see the need to ask why :-) [12:10] * cjwatson has one himself [12:10] * highvoltage too :) [12:10] cjwatson: but the reason is important though, if you only want it for one arch being used in your office, you don't need to download the others [12:11] cjwatson: and he probably doesn't need to download the source packages either [12:11] true, best to read the debmirror manual page [12:11] *nod* canburak ^^^ [12:13] highvoltage: no to act as a provate mirror. currently I don't have the required space for a local mirror [12:13] canburak: ah, then you probably just need i386 (or 64bit) binaries for main universe multiverse and restricted, which would be 20GB or so [12:14] i once had a country mirror for TR and nuked when i was in bad mood :) [12:14] canburak: but check the debmirror manpage, it's probably your best bet. [12:14] highvoltage: is it possible to use debmirror of the debian installation to mirror ubuntu? [12:15] canburak: yes, you might just have to use the newest available debmirror that already knows about hardy [12:15] highvoltage: my mirror is on etch [12:16] and you suggest to use (if available) debmirror from backports? [12:16] and you suggest to use (if available) debmirror from debian-backports? [12:16] debmirror doesn't have to know about the suite, does it? [12:34] canburak: pretty much any version of debmirror should do just fine; highvoltage is mistaken here, it doesn't have to specifically know about hardy [12:34] I'm using the version of debmirror in Debian stable to mirror hardy, with no problems [12:35] hmm, yes I am. I confused debmirror with debootstrap a bit, I think. [12:36] debootstrap does have to be up to date, yes [12:36] (when one is using it) [12:36] hmm thanks i'll give a try === pedro__ is now known as pedro_ === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away [13:54] soren: what's up? [13:54] soren: ah, virtinst; I'll deal with it [13:58] pitti: Thanks very much. === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 === ryu2 is now known as ryu [14:34] cody-somerville: I'll tkae care of it. Sorry, your email got buried in my inbox. [14:38] oh, that was Scott Ritchie [14:38] who was? [14:39] Scott emailed me saying that his emails were being put in the moderation queue. === pedro___ is now known as pedro_ [14:41] evand, mine too :P [14:41] cody-somerville: hrm, better check with the sysadmins, I'm not sure how that bit is set up as no one on the list has the moderation bit set. [14:42] It says I'm not a developer [14:46] cody-somerville: I've asked in #canonical-sysadmin as this is beyond my control. [14:46] hi guys, in our locale, in last minute changes, some update in xlrunner b0rked security exception dialog, therefore lots of people can't log in on internet via wifi. It is known issue for other languages/more general issue? [14:46] can an archive admin please shove libitpp through hardy-proposed binary new? thanks. [14:46] sistpoty|work: ugh, NEW for stables? [14:46] pitti: yeah, it's a leftover from the gfortran transition... but fortunately it doesn't have rdepends [14:49] Unfortunately I didn't find the missed spot in the transition until about 6 hours after the archive closed [14:49] * sistpoty|work didn't find it at all [14:50] pitti: Would you be up for some archive work on clamav updates/backports? [14:52] sistpoty|work: ok, I'll have a look later; I'd like to finish my current hack job first, to not loose so much brain state [14:52] pitti: sure, no hurries ;) === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [15:01] YokoZar: Can you join #canonical-sysadmin? [15:04] evand: it's done in the sender filters, but people in ubuntu-dev ought to be processed automatically without needing to be in there by hand [15:04] so adding them by hand will make it work short-term but isn't really the right answer long-term [15:05] evand: (privacy options -> sender filters -> accept_these_nonmembers is what we use for non-developer autoaccepts) [15:05] cjwatson: ah [15:06] cjwatson: I've since taken it to #canonical-sysadmin to see if there's a problem with the processing code. Spads is looking into it. === cpro1 is now known as cprov [15:35] Hello, I have install code:blocks but I have problems when I try to compile a project, an error with a file wx/setup.h that not is found [15:35] any help please [15:37] edugonch_: Install wxwidgets. [15:38] Aslo, this is not the channel for such a question I think. [15:39] (-dev to be more precise... headers will always be in the -dev packages) [15:39] sistpoty|work: Ah correct... Too used to Arch now, which installs it all. === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [16:17] mvo: how are the Translation-* files updated? I notice that their mtimes are 22 Feb [16:17] which seems a bit old for hardy, really [16:18] cjwatson: there were issues with rosetta that made updates difficult - I can manually work around those, its more effort. I will prepare a update now (its a special upload handler) [16:19] cjwatson: I discussed a spec how the translations can/should be improved within rosetta/LP but I is not implemented yet (or even assigned) [16:19] I'm wondering whether we can/should push that into hardy directly, rather than updates [16:20] hm, not sure if that is possible [16:20] I don't approve of updating Packages post-release, obviously, but this doesn't seem like it would cause practical problems [16:20] if you upload to hardy directly, it ought to get held for approval [16:21] we may push them into -proposed first, I don't think there will be problems, its probably best to test them there first [16:21] but for .1 we should have them in main hardy IMHO [16:22] I very much doubt that the usual copy-out-of-proposed trick will work, so they'll need to be reuploaded [16:22] that should be ok I think [16:22] my only concern is that the Rosetta export should happen ASAP so that it's close to what real hardy ought to have been [16:23] ok, I request the export now [16:23] mvo: what's the translation component in Launchpad called, just for my curiosity? [16:24] cjwatson: translated-package-descriptions is the name of Source: and Binary: in the changes file [16:25] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/translated-package-descriptions doesn't exist though [16:26] just wondering where to direct people who want to translate it [16:26] cjwatson: oh, sorry - I misunderstood the question. its called ddtp-ubuntu [16:26] https://edge.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu [16:27] I keep syncing those with debian [16:27] ah, right, thanks [16:27] syncing those must be a horrible job [16:28] yeah, the scripts do most of the work, but its still time consuming [16:28] mvo: you screwed up! [16:34] mvo: any ideas as to why this happens? bug #221977 [16:34] Launchpad bug 221977 in gnome-control-center "Cannot enable compiz with the fglrx driver (ATI X1600)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221977 [16:35] tseliot: that is a mobile ati one? that might be a (unintended) side-effect of our mobile ati test :/ [16:35] no, a standalone card [16:36] mvo: Compiz works well if launched from the command line [16:36] mvo: my card is an ATI X1600 Pro 256MB [16:36] tseliot: could you please check what .xsession-errors says when you enable it? [16:37] tseliot: strange that it works fine if you run it on the commandline [16:37] it should be just the same [16:37] mvo: sure, let me check [16:39] I have an openPGP key on Launchpad. I'm trying to build a deb, but I'm not allowed because I don't have an gpg key (fresh ubuntu install). How do I activate my old gpg key in Ubuntu? [16:40] ramvi: If you no longer have the secret key, you don't [16:40] I have the secret key [16:40] Then use it [16:40] Right, how? I can only find how to make a new pgp thing in the wiki [16:40] Just copy the keyring into your new install [16:41] It's in the .gnupg directory [16:41] ramvi: You're supposed to keep the key [16:41] ramvi: are you just building the .deb for personal use? [16:41] Guard it with your life and never delete it [16:41] cjwatson: no [16:41] ah [16:41] Amaranth: Oh, I have deleted it.. [16:41] mvo: here it is: http://pastebin.com/m1e3a1f55 [16:42] ramvi: Then you don't have a key [16:42] Amaranth: Didn't know I was suppost to keep it. So I have to create a new one? Can't download from the keyserver? [16:42] Amaranth: right, stupid me [16:42] The keyserver only has the public key [16:42] ramvi: The secret half of the key never goes anywhere near the keyserver [16:42] That's why it's secret [16:43] :) [16:43] thanks [16:43] (please don't upload the secret part of your key anywhere at any point!) [16:44] tseliot: right, that is a bug in "jockey" (There is no available graphics driver for your system which supports the composite extension.) - that message comes from jockey [16:44] ^--- pitti could you please have a look? [16:47] mvo: ok, I have edited the bugreport so that it affects jockey [16:47] mvo: right, I already talked with tseliot about it; I'm still not sure which exit codes the applet expects [16:48] mvo: ATM it exits with 0 iff it installed a compositing-enabling driver [16:48] has anyone fixed the smb:// and network:// bug yet? [16:48] mvo: i. e. it exits 1 if installation failed or there is no driver, or you don't need one [16:48] mvo: I guess we need more exit codes then [16:48] mvo: jockey currently does not know about all possible X drivers and whether they already support composite [16:49] mvo: it only knows composite support for the drivers it can handle (nvidia, fglrx) [16:49] mvo: I guess we need to redefine the exit code protocol [16:49] d1nker_: that's a bit imprecise; do you have a bug number for the issue you're referring to? [16:49] d1nker_: or can you explain what the bug is that you're talking about? [16:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/185756 [16:50] Launchpad bug 185756 in gvfs "Couldn't display "network:///" - Nautilus cannot handle network:locations" [Medium,Fix released] [16:50] pitti: can/should it not just do the same as it does when nvidia is already installed/enabled on the system? [16:50] d1nker_: They work fine here [16:50] d1nker_: well, yes, that bug was fixed some time ago [16:50] d1nker_: that bug has been fixed some months ago as indicated [16:50] mvo: so far I thought the applet would only call jockey if the current driver would not support composite [16:50] how do I apply the patch? [16:50] mvo: I didn't know it would *always* call jockey before enabling [16:51] d1nker_: The bug did not affect 7.10 and is fixed for 8.04 [16:51] mvo: I think it does [16:51] d1nker_: all that's required is to log out and log back in after upgrading from the older version of pre-release hardy to the official Ubuntu 8.04 [16:51] I still have the exact same problem as described with 8.04 (fresh install this morning) should I reopen the bug [16:51] d1nker_: if network:/// still doesn't work for you, then you have some other bug and we'd need more information about your symptoms [16:52] d1nker_: if you freshly installed 8.04, then no, you don't have that bug [16:52] In a bug report, preferably [16:52] pitti: I check the code out, we should milestone it for .1 [16:52] mvo: right; compiz itself knows whether the current driver is composite-capable, right? can the applet ask compiz, and only ask jockey to install a driver if the current driver doesn't work? [16:53] mvo: (the option should really be --install-composite, not --check) [16:54] pitti: yeah, the option is pretty unfortunately named - well, its a bit more complicated, compiz does not really know until it is started, this is why we have the wrapper script [16:54] oh [16:54] pitti: we would have to add a --check-only option to the wrapper to get this information [16:54] when I go to places - connect to server and select windows share, fill the info out I get an error that says "Can't display location smb://SERVERNAME" No application is registered as handling the file [16:54] pitti: maybe the best solution is to just remove the cal to jockey entirely [16:54] mvo: or, just try to enable it, and if that fails, call jockey? [16:55] pitti: the user knows about the misisng nvidia driver already from the notification bublle [16:55] pitti: hm, yeah, we could do that too (start, if it fails call jockey) [16:55] mvo: so, don't check if compiz would work, just start it and check if it fails? [16:55] if the magic test script would return "thumbs up", you'd just start compiz anyway, right? [16:55] d1nker_: that's a different issue, does places, networks give an error? [16:56] d1nker_: to clarify, that's the Places -> Network menu in the desktop [16:56] mvo: btw, bug 208026 is also related to that [16:57] pitti: yeah, start it, if that fails, run jockey [16:57] Launchpad bug 208026 in gnome-control-center "gnome-appearance-properties asks for reboot if you cancel ATI driver install" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/208026 [16:58] Places -> Network works fine it's when you enter information into the Places -> Connect to Server -> Service Type: Windows Share [16:58] mvo: I think that part does need a separate exit code [16:58] pitti: yeah [16:58] mvo: although, hmm [16:59] mvo: it only asks for reboot if the driver was installed, right? [16:59] mvo: i. .e if jockey returns 0 [16:59] mvo: in that case, the bug might just be that jockey returns with 0 if the install was cancelled [16:59] hm, right [17:00] d1nker_: for shares that I know to work, I'm able to connect without error on 8.04. Is this a share that requires authentication? [17:00] yes [17:00] mvo: right, I just checked the code [17:00] mvo: I'll get that fixed in jockey [17:01] which if I access it using the control+L option I can get to [17:01] ok, so it seems to be an issue in the connect to server dialog, could you open a bug on nautilus and describe the steps you are using? [17:01] yah can you send me a link, I've never submitted a bug before [17:02] mvo: thanks; I'll summarize in the bug [17:03] pitti: thanks [17:03] mvo: done; I didn't assign the bug yet [17:03]