[05:13] <sommer> nijaba: good question
[08:34] <mdke> nijaba: it will take about a week I guess
[08:34] <nijaba> mdke: really?  why is it so long?
[08:40] <nijaba> mdke: anything we can do to speed it up?
[08:41] <mdke> nijaba: not really, it just takes a lot of work
[08:42] <nijaba> mdke: and can I help in the work?
[08:42] <mdke> nijaba: maybe it can be done by the end of the weekend, then a few days to upload it
[08:42] <mdke> nijaba: no, I don't think so - it's a one person job
[08:43] <nijaba> mdke: okay, so I should wish you good luck then :)  sorry for the disturbance
[08:43] <mdke> thanks for the offer though
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[17:02] <psanchez> Hello, may I suggest something to add to the upgrade notes?
[17:08] <psanchez> Anyway, in case someone reads this later on, I'd like to know what is the recommended way to update a Ubuntu desktop "remotely", via a ssh session, with no GUI. Would the instructions for upgrading a Ubuntu server apply?
[17:14] <bamed> sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:20] <psanchez> OK, it would help to add a one-liner confirming this on the web page. Thank you.
[17:22] <bamed> it's on http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading under "Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers"
[17:23] <psanchez> Yes, "for Ubuntu Servers" but I'm asking whether this procedure is also valid for Ubuntu "Desktops".
[17:24] <seisen> what the sudo do-release upgrade?
[17:24] <psanchez> Yes
[17:25] <bamed> it works for desktop too
[17:26] <seisen> the only reason they recommend using update-manager for the desktop is because its available
[17:27] <psanchez> Good, that's what I'm suggesting you confirm in the web page. In my case, I want to remotely upgrade my mom's PC and I was looking for the recommended way to do it via ssh.
[17:28] <bamed> I see your point
[17:30] <seisen> I they basically do the same thing except one uses a gui and one doesn't
[17:30] <seisen> you will get a warning when upgrading with ssh
[17:31] <psanchez> That's the point. My mom lives abroad and I don't want to upgrade her machine using a GUI. Just addning a note saying that do-release works for the desktop edition as well would help.
[17:32] <psanchez> A harmless warning?
[17:33] <seisen> it just warns that you ssh session do end prematurely and opens up another ssh connection just in case
[17:34] <seisen> I upgraded a server that way and it never did disconnect so.....
[17:35] <psanchez> OK, whatever. I just wanted to suggest to make an explicit note available on the upgrade page talking about this and saying what the recommended way to do it is.
[17:39] <bamed> I suggest running it inside screen, in case you do get disconnected, if you're going over SSH
[17:40] <psanchez> That's a good suggestion (one more line to add to the web page :-)