evilbug | hey. | 02:31 |
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evilbug | how long will it be until ubuntu mobile is out? (i'm not lookin for a specific answer,but something like a few months,more than a year,etc.) | 02:32 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:22 |
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Xiliath | if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, is there somthing that i might be missing from Ubuntu-mobile? | 06:59 |
S_A | Hi! can Ubuntu Mobile be used for a thin client as a base for minimal distro ? | 07:02 |
Xiliath | i dont think ubuntu-mobile would work so well on one | 07:09 |
Xiliath | you could do a minimal hardy install, and install the hildon desktop instead of gnome | 07:09 |
S_A | Xiliath! how much of space this will eat ? any idea ? | 07:21 |
Xiliath | not off hand | 07:22 |
Xiliath | but i know hildon is minimal | 07:22 |
Xiliath | but you have to manually set it up | 07:22 |
Xiliath | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582867 | 07:23 |
Xiliath | that link shows you how to add hildon as an xsession | 07:23 |
Xiliath | you could take the new hardy .iso and use UCK and probally add in hildon for a custom ubuntu install just for what you need | 07:26 |
Xiliath | if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, anyone have any idea what might be missing, also pidgin just hangs after i attempt to open it | 08:30 |
Xiliath | anybody here who might be able to provide some help with ume | 11:12 |
lool | Xiliath: Just ask your question, don't ask to ask :) | 12:44 |
lool | Xiliath: Oh the clutter thing you asked earlier perhaps? | 12:45 |
lool | Xiliath: This is a known issue | 12:45 |
Xiliath | yeah? i'm trying to get it to run, but the application does nothing | 12:49 |
Xiliath | i didn't know if it was somthign i didn't do that was preventing it from running | 12:50 |
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Xiliath | lool, what about network manager, i don't see a status icon or anything, nor is there a .desktop file | 13:23 |
Xiliath | or at least i haven't located it yet | 13:24 |
persia | Xiliath: The applet should be at the top of the screen. | 13:28 |
Xiliath | as in next to the volume control? | 13:30 |
Xiliath | for whatever reason it's not, the app is not in the /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar/ folder | 13:31 |
persia | Hmm. It was on my last image. Updating... | 13:32 |
Xiliath | i think i'm running beta 3 hardy | 13:33 |
jackiejacker | where can I find images to run with qemu | 13:33 |
Xiliath | last i read it wasn't working with qemu | 13:34 |
persia | jackiejacker: You can't. The qemu simulated video hardware doesn't work with the selected driver | 13:34 |
jackiejacker | persia, oo :( | 13:35 |
jackiejacker | persia, so i can only test run with xypher | 13:40 |
pavolklacansky | hello | 13:41 |
pavolklacansky | how can i try ubuntu mobile on desktop? | 13:41 |
Xiliath | well you could use image-creator | 13:41 |
persia | jackiejacker: Currently, only xephyr, supported hardware, or a custom hack. | 13:41 |
Xiliath | and burn a live version to test | 13:41 |
Xiliath | or you could run hildon on ubuntu to get a small look, but not everything works | 13:42 |
Xiliath | and it's not really UME | 13:42 |
pavolklacansky | ?? | 13:42 |
agoliveira | pavolklacansky: You can either create a image with supoport for your specific hardware or use Xephyr, please, read the docs. There's a session abou Xephyr. | 13:44 |
jackiejacker | persia, well i have a n810 so i can use that to test.. i saw some progression there @ elinux | 13:44 |
pavolklacansky | thx i will read them | 13:44 |
Xiliath | pavolklacansky, you can go here for using image creator, and create an image to use on a usb device to boot from. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/CreatingAnImageForUMEDevice | 13:44 |
Xiliath | or use xephyr | 13:45 |
persia | jackiejacker: ARM isn't currently a supported CPU. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ | 13:45 |
Xiliath | i have a question about using xephyr, after i launch it, what should i see in the display? | 13:46 |
Xiliath | when I launch it all i get is a gray box | 13:46 |
persia | Xiliath: An uninitialised screen buffer. | 13:46 |
persia | That'd be right. Now, launch some WM targeting the virtual display. | 13:47 |
Xiliath | from a different terminal? | 13:48 |
persia | Or the same terminal (Xephyr runs fine as a background process, if a little noisily) | 13:49 |
Xiliath | i can't run any other processes from the same terminal | 13:50 |
persia | Xiliath: In that case, another terminal would be fine. | 13:51 |
persia | Remember to launch Xephyr from your host, and the WM from your test chroot. | 13:52 |
Xiliath | yeah | 13:52 |
Xiliath | has there been a problem with image-creator allowing packages to be installed or updated? | 13:52 |
Xiliath | there's a dns problem with using target terminal once you install f-sets | 13:53 |
jackiejacker | persia, http://mojo.handhelds.org/frisky | 13:53 |
persia | jackiejacker: Sure. Please test that: it would be nice to have it in great shape. It's not UME, but it's a step towards proper ARM support. | 13:54 |
jackiejacker | persia, why isn't that ume | 13:55 |
persia | Different default package sets. Different versions. Different goals. | 13:56 |
suihkulokki | fwiw, ther debian/lenny armel port is in better condition than the feisty-based ubuntu arm port.. | 13:56 |
Xiliath | if they get ubuntu almost completely ported over to arm it's make getting ume ported over alot easier | 13:56 |
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davmor2 | issues with notepad still not opening | 14:18 |
davmor2 | :( | 14:19 |
lool | ToddBrandt: Around? | 14:31 |
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davmor2 | Guys is mousepad meant to be the notepad of choice? | 15:59 |
lool | davmor2: That question sounds like you're not happy with it :) | 16:38 |
davmor2 | lool: not that it doesn't run. It crashes out if it is meant to be the default | 16:39 |
davmor2 | lool: clicking on the icon does nothing so I looked through the list in /usr/bin and noticed mousepad and ran it from cli it dies badly | 16:40 |
smagoun | davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/matchbox-keyboard/+bug/205871 | 16:41 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 205871 in matchbox-keyboard "[Hardy+PPA]:Intergrated mousepad but cannot launch it from console, shows "segment fault" error" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:41 |
davmor2 | smagoun: ta that's very similar :) I added to this bug that I found though https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/+bug/214066 maybe they should be linked? | 16:44 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 214066 in ubuntu-mobile "Notepad fails to launch" [High,Confirmed] | 16:44 |
smagoun | davmor2: done | 16:45 |
davmor2 | :) | 16:45 |
davmor2 | does anyone know why /usr/games isn't in $PATH as well. Thats the reason that the games won't run :) | 16:47 |
davmor2 | bug 217758 | 16:48 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 217758 in ubuntu-mobile "Games issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217758 | 16:48 |
pavolklacansky | hello where can i translate it to slovak language? | 18:36 |
GrueMaster | inuka_desk: ping. Need info on rebuilding kernel for lpia. | 18:38 |
inuka_desk | GrueMaster: https://umd.jf.intel.com/projects/umd/wiki/PSBmanual | 18:40 |
GrueMaster | Thanks. This info should be on moblin.org as well. | 18:41 |
GrueMaster | oops, this is just for the kernel modules for the video drivers. I'm talking about rebuilding the kernel package with added patches or changing the config file. | 18:44 |
inuka_desk | GrueMaster: oh ok hold on | 18:44 |
inuka_desk | GrueMaster: the wiki is not upto date let me send you an email | 18:45 |
GrueMaster | send it to me @intel. I need to forward it to Folsom. | 18:48 |
GrueMaster | thanks | 18:48 |
inuka_desk | GrueMaster: sent | 18:51 |
GrueMaster | got it. Will forward it on. He reported that it built an i386.deb package, but not an lpia package. | 18:54 |
GrueMaster | He might not have been in a MIC project area. | 18:54 |
inuka_desk | will send you an other e-mail | 19:06 |
lool | smagoun: I moved that matchbox-kbd bug to moblin-other; it's not affecting Ubuntu, only UME, moblin and customer builds | 19:17 |
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smagoun | lool: thanks. I had that change in a browser window, forgot to hit submit! | 19:33 |
lool | smagoun: ah | 21:10 |
lool | k | 21:10 |
lool | bfiller: fixed here | 21:33 |
lool | bfiller: I'll push | 21:33 |
bfiller | lool: I would have done it, but thank you :) | 21:34 |
bfiller | lool: and sorry about that | 21:34 |
lool | bfiller: Eh you didn't know | 21:36 |
lool | bfiller: Pushed | 21:45 |
bfiller | lool: thanks, I pushed a patch earlier this afternoon to fix a crash, I will push new package into PPA | 21:46 |
lool | Okely | 21:47 |
lool | Thanks | 21:47 |
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