[02:31] <evilbug> hey.
[02:32] <evilbug> how long will it be until ubuntu mobile is out? (i'm not lookin for a specific answer,but something like a few months,more than a year,etc.)
[06:22] <dholbach> good morning
[06:59] <Xiliath> if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, is there somthing that i might be missing from Ubuntu-mobile?
[07:02] <S_A> Hi! can Ubuntu Mobile be used for a thin client as a base for minimal distro ?
[07:09] <Xiliath> i dont think ubuntu-mobile would work so well on one
[07:09] <Xiliath> you could do a minimal hardy install, and install the hildon desktop instead of gnome
[07:21] <S_A> Xiliath! how much of space this will eat ? any idea ?
[07:22] <Xiliath> not off hand
[07:22] <Xiliath> but i know hildon is minimal
[07:22] <Xiliath> but you have to manually set it up
[07:23] <Xiliath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582867
[07:23] <Xiliath> that link shows you how to add hildon as an xsession
[07:26] <Xiliath> you could take the new hardy .iso and use UCK and probally add in hildon for a custom ubuntu install just for what you need
[08:30] <Xiliath> ﻿if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, anyone have any idea what might be missing, also pidgin just hangs after i attempt to open it
[11:12] <Xiliath> anybody here who might be able to provide some help with ume
[12:44] <lool> Xiliath: Just ask your question, don't ask to ask :)
[12:45] <lool> Xiliath: Oh the clutter thing you asked earlier perhaps?
[12:45] <lool> Xiliath: This is a known issue
[12:49] <Xiliath> yeah? i'm trying to get it to run, but the application does nothing
[12:50] <Xiliath> i didn't know if it was somthign i didn't do that was preventing it from running
[13:23] <Xiliath> lool, what about network manager, i don't see a status icon or anything, nor is there a .desktop file
[13:24] <Xiliath> or at least i haven't located it yet
[13:28] <persia> Xiliath: The applet should be at the top of the screen.
[13:30] <Xiliath> as in next to the volume control?
[13:31] <Xiliath> for whatever reason it's not, the app is not in the /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar/ folder
[13:32] <persia> Hmm.  It was on my last image.  Updating...
[13:33] <Xiliath> i think i'm running beta 3 hardy
[13:33] <jackiejacker> where can I find images to run with qemu
[13:34] <Xiliath> last i read it wasn't working with qemu
[13:34] <persia> jackiejacker: You can't.  The qemu simulated video hardware doesn't work with the selected driver
[13:35] <jackiejacker> persia, oo :(
[13:40] <jackiejacker> persia, so i can only test run with xypher
[13:41] <pavolklacansky> hello
[13:41] <pavolklacansky> how can i try ubuntu mobile on desktop?
[13:41] <Xiliath> well you could use image-creator
[13:41] <persia> jackiejacker: Currently, only xephyr, supported hardware, or a custom hack.
[13:41] <Xiliath> and burn a live version to test
[13:42] <Xiliath> or you could run hildon on ubuntu to get a small look, but not everything works
[13:42] <Xiliath> and it's not really UME
[13:42] <pavolklacansky> ??
[13:44] <agoliveira> pavolklacansky: You can either create a image with supoport for your specific hardware or use Xephyr, please, read the docs. There's a session abou Xephyr.
[13:44] <jackiejacker> persia, well i have a n810 so i can use that to test.. i saw some progression there @ elinux
[13:44] <pavolklacansky> thx i will read them
[13:44] <Xiliath> ﻿pavolklacansky, you can go here for using image creator, and create an image to use on a usb device to boot from.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/CreatingAnImageForUMEDevice
[13:45] <Xiliath> or use xephyr
[13:45] <persia> ﻿jackiejacker: ARM isn't currently a supported CPU.  See ﻿https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ
[13:46] <Xiliath> i have a question about using xephyr, after i launch it, what should i see in the display?
[13:46] <Xiliath> when I launch it all i get is a gray box
[13:46] <persia> Xiliath: An uninitialised screen buffer.
[13:47] <persia> That'd be right.  Now, launch some WM targeting the virtual display.
[13:48] <Xiliath> from a different terminal?
[13:49] <persia> Or the same terminal (Xephyr runs fine as a background process, if a little noisily)
[13:50] <Xiliath> i can't run any other processes from the same terminal
[13:51] <persia> Xiliath: In that case, another terminal would be fine.
[13:52] <persia> Remember to launch Xephyr from your host, and the WM from your test chroot.
[13:52] <Xiliath> yeah
[13:52] <Xiliath> has there been a problem with image-creator allowing packages to be installed or updated?
[13:53] <Xiliath> there's a dns problem with using target terminal once you install f-sets
[13:53] <jackiejacker> persia, http://mojo.handhelds.org/frisky
[13:54] <persia> jackiejacker: Sure.  Please test that: it would be nice to have it in great shape.  It's not UME, but it's a step towards proper ARM support.
[13:55] <jackiejacker> persia, why isn't that ume
[13:56] <persia> Different default package sets.  Different versions.  Different goals.
[13:56] <suihkulokki> fwiw, ther debian/lenny armel port is in better condition than the feisty-based ubuntu arm port..
[13:56] <Xiliath> if they get ubuntu almost completely ported over to arm it's make getting ume ported over alot easier
[14:18] <davmor2> issues with notepad still not opening
[14:19] <davmor2> :(
[14:31] <lool> ToddBrandt: Around?
[15:59] <davmor2> Guys is mousepad meant to be the notepad of choice?
[16:38] <lool> davmor2: That question sounds like you're not happy with it :)
[16:39] <davmor2> lool: not that it doesn't run.  It crashes out if it is meant to be the default
[16:40] <davmor2> lool: clicking on the icon does nothing so I looked through the list in /usr/bin and noticed mousepad and ran it from cli it dies badly
[16:41] <smagoun> davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/matchbox-keyboard/+bug/205871
[16:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 205871 in matchbox-keyboard "[Hardy+PPA]:Intergrated mousepad but cannot launch it from console, shows "segment fault" error" [Undecided,Confirmed] 
[16:44] <davmor2> smagoun: ta that's very similar :)  I added to this bug that I found though https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/+bug/214066 maybe they should be linked?
[16:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 214066 in ubuntu-mobile "Notepad fails to launch" [High,Confirmed] 
[16:45] <smagoun> davmor2: done
[16:45] <davmor2> :)
[16:47] <davmor2> does anyone know why /usr/games isn't in $PATH as well.  Thats the reason that the games won't run :)
[16:48] <davmor2> bug 217758
[16:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217758 in ubuntu-mobile "Games issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217758
[18:36] <pavolklacansky> hello where can i translate it to slovak language?
[18:38] <GrueMaster> inuka_desk: ping.  Need info on rebuilding kernel for lpia.
[18:40] <inuka_desk> GrueMaster: https://umd.jf.intel.com/projects/umd/wiki/PSBmanual
[18:41] <GrueMaster> Thanks.  This info should be on moblin.org as well.
[18:44] <GrueMaster> oops, this is just for the kernel modules for the video drivers.  I'm talking about rebuilding the kernel package with added patches or changing the config file.
[18:44] <inuka_desk> GrueMaster: oh ok hold on
[18:45] <inuka_desk> GrueMaster: the wiki is not upto date let me send you an email 
[18:48] <GrueMaster> send it to me @intel.  I need to forward it to Folsom.
[18:48] <GrueMaster> thanks
[18:51] <inuka_desk> GrueMaster: sent
[18:54] <GrueMaster> got it.  Will forward it on.  He reported that it built an i386.deb package, but not an lpia package.
[18:54] <GrueMaster> He might not have been in a MIC project area.
[19:06] <inuka_desk> will send you an other e-mail
[19:17] <lool> smagoun: I moved that matchbox-kbd bug to moblin-other; it's not affecting Ubuntu, only UME, moblin and customer builds
[19:33] <smagoun> lool: thanks. I had that change in a browser window, forgot to hit submit!
[21:10] <lool> smagoun: ah
[21:10] <lool> k
[21:33] <lool> bfiller: fixed here
[21:33] <lool> bfiller: I'll push
[21:34] <bfiller> lool: I would have done it, but thank you :)
[21:34] <bfiller> lool: and sorry about that
[21:36] <lool> bfiller: Eh you didn't know
[21:45] <lool> bfiller: Pushed
[21:46] <bfiller> lool: thanks, I pushed a patch earlier this afternoon to fix a crash, I will push new package into PPA
[21:47] <lool> Okely
[21:47] <lool> Thanks