[02:31] hey. [02:32] how long will it be until ubuntu mobile is out? (i'm not lookin for a specific answer,but something like a few months,more than a year,etc.) === rogelio is now known as park [06:22] good morning === asac_ is now known as asac [06:59] if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, is there somthing that i might be missing from Ubuntu-mobile? [07:02] Hi! can Ubuntu Mobile be used for a thin client as a base for minimal distro ? [07:09] i dont think ubuntu-mobile would work so well on one [07:09] you could do a minimal hardy install, and install the hildon desktop instead of gnome [07:21] Xiliath! how much of space this will eat ? any idea ? [07:22] not off hand [07:22] but i know hildon is minimal [07:22] but you have to manually set it up [07:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=582867 [07:23] that link shows you how to add hildon as an xsession [07:26] you could take the new hardy .iso and use UCK and probally add in hildon for a custom ubuntu install just for what you need [08:30] if i can't get "hildon clutter home ui (test)" to launch, anyone have any idea what might be missing, also pidgin just hangs after i attempt to open it [11:12] anybody here who might be able to provide some help with ume [12:44] Xiliath: Just ask your question, don't ask to ask :) [12:45] Xiliath: Oh the clutter thing you asked earlier perhaps? [12:45] Xiliath: This is a known issue [12:49] yeah? i'm trying to get it to run, but the application does nothing [12:50] i didn't know if it was somthign i didn't do that was preventing it from running === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away [13:23] lool, what about network manager, i don't see a status icon or anything, nor is there a .desktop file [13:24] or at least i haven't located it yet [13:28] Xiliath: The applet should be at the top of the screen. [13:30] as in next to the volume control? [13:31] for whatever reason it's not, the app is not in the /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar/ folder [13:32] Hmm. It was on my last image. Updating... [13:33] i think i'm running beta 3 hardy [13:33] where can I find images to run with qemu [13:34] last i read it wasn't working with qemu [13:34] jackiejacker: You can't. The qemu simulated video hardware doesn't work with the selected driver [13:35] persia, oo :( [13:40] persia, so i can only test run with xypher [13:41] hello [13:41] how can i try ubuntu mobile on desktop? [13:41] well you could use image-creator [13:41] jackiejacker: Currently, only xephyr, supported hardware, or a custom hack. [13:41] and burn a live version to test [13:42] or you could run hildon on ubuntu to get a small look, but not everything works [13:42] and it's not really UME [13:42] ?? [13:44] pavolklacansky: You can either create a image with supoport for your specific hardware or use Xephyr, please, read the docs. There's a session abou Xephyr. [13:44] persia, well i have a n810 so i can use that to test.. i saw some progression there @ elinux [13:44] thx i will read them [13:44] pavolklacansky, you can go here for using image creator, and create an image to use on a usb device to boot from. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/CreatingAnImageForUMEDevice [13:45] or use xephyr [13:45] jackiejacker: ARM isn't currently a supported CPU. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/FAQ [13:46] i have a question about using xephyr, after i launch it, what should i see in the display? [13:46] when I launch it all i get is a gray box [13:46] Xiliath: An uninitialised screen buffer. [13:47] That'd be right. Now, launch some WM targeting the virtual display. [13:48] from a different terminal? [13:49] Or the same terminal (Xephyr runs fine as a background process, if a little noisily) [13:50] i can't run any other processes from the same terminal [13:51] Xiliath: In that case, another terminal would be fine. [13:52] Remember to launch Xephyr from your host, and the WM from your test chroot. [13:52] yeah [13:52] has there been a problem with image-creator allowing packages to be installed or updated? [13:53] there's a dns problem with using target terminal once you install f-sets [13:53] persia, http://mojo.handhelds.org/frisky [13:54] jackiejacker: Sure. Please test that: it would be nice to have it in great shape. It's not UME, but it's a step towards proper ARM support. [13:55] persia, why isn't that ume [13:56] Different default package sets. Different versions. Different goals. [13:56] fwiw, ther debian/lenny armel port is in better condition than the feisty-based ubuntu arm port.. [13:56] if they get ubuntu almost completely ported over to arm it's make getting ume ported over alot easier === pavolklacansky is now known as pk === pk is now known as pavolklacansky === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 [14:18] issues with notepad still not opening [14:19] :( [14:31] ToddBrandt: Around? === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === cpro1 is now known as cprov [15:59] Guys is mousepad meant to be the notepad of choice? [16:38] davmor2: That question sounds like you're not happy with it :) [16:39] lool: not that it doesn't run. It crashes out if it is meant to be the default [16:40] lool: clicking on the icon does nothing so I looked through the list in /usr/bin and noticed mousepad and ran it from cli it dies badly [16:41] davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/matchbox-keyboard/+bug/205871 [16:41] Launchpad bug 205871 in matchbox-keyboard "[Hardy+PPA]:Intergrated mousepad but cannot launch it from console, shows "segment fault" error" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:44] smagoun: ta that's very similar :) I added to this bug that I found though https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/+bug/214066 maybe they should be linked? [16:44] Launchpad bug 214066 in ubuntu-mobile "Notepad fails to launch" [High,Confirmed] [16:45] davmor2: done [16:45] :) [16:47] does anyone know why /usr/games isn't in $PATH as well. Thats the reason that the games won't run :) [16:48] bug 217758 [16:48] Launchpad bug 217758 in ubuntu-mobile "Games issues" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217758 [18:36] hello where can i translate it to slovak language? [18:38] inuka_desk: ping. Need info on rebuilding kernel for lpia. [18:40] GrueMaster: https://umd.jf.intel.com/projects/umd/wiki/PSBmanual [18:41] Thanks. This info should be on moblin.org as well. [18:44] oops, this is just for the kernel modules for the video drivers. I'm talking about rebuilding the kernel package with added patches or changing the config file. [18:44] GrueMaster: oh ok hold on [18:45] GrueMaster: the wiki is not upto date let me send you an email [18:48] send it to me @intel. I need to forward it to Folsom. [18:48] thanks [18:51] GrueMaster: sent [18:54] got it. Will forward it on. He reported that it built an i386.deb package, but not an lpia package. [18:54] He might not have been in a MIC project area. [19:06] will send you an other e-mail [19:17] smagoun: I moved that matchbox-kbd bug to moblin-other; it's not affecting Ubuntu, only UME, moblin and customer builds === kazken3_ is now known as kazken3 [19:33] lool: thanks. I had that change in a browser window, forgot to hit submit! [21:10] smagoun: ah [21:10] k [21:33] bfiller: fixed here [21:33] bfiller: I'll push [21:34] lool: I would have done it, but thank you :) [21:34] lool: and sorry about that [21:36] bfiller: Eh you didn't know [21:45] bfiller: Pushed [21:46] lool: thanks, I pushed a patch earlier this afternoon to fix a crash, I will push new package into PPA [21:47] Okely [21:47] Thanks