[00:27] <rhpot1991> Tuv0k: ubuntu ffmpeg doesn't have aac, you need the one from medibuntu
[00:38] <jayshotta> envy on mythbuntu is real nice
[00:38] <c3rb3rus5> envy... the movie?
[00:40] <jayshotta> no it gets the Nvidia drivers
[00:40] <c3rb3rus5> oh, right
[00:40] <jayshotta> lets its full screen real clear quality
[00:41] <laga> jayshotta: mythbuntu already has the restricted drivers
[00:42] <jayshotta> I kno but it doesnt set TV to full sreen either 16:9 or 4:3 enzy sets it to fill the whole screen
[00:44] <laga> ah, the drivers are probably outdated then
[00:44] <c3rb3rus5> its too bad BT isnt used on the update servers...  i think
[00:46] <jayshotta> could be but I rather those drivers
[00:49] <jayshotta> Ok my mythbuntu is up wat can I do to add this extra drive to it now
[00:49] <c3rb3rus5> dumb wuestion... can i upgrade from cd indtead of via synaptic?
[00:50] <laga> c3rb3rus5: only from alternate disk. and i don't know. in theory, it's possible, but it was never tried for the mythbuntu disks
[00:50] <c3rb3rus5> ok, we'll stay away from that approach then
[00:51] <laga> too bad, i'd love to hear from someone who tried it :)
[00:52] <c3rb3rus5> ,aybe i'll be brave... what the hell, right?
[00:52] <c3rb3rus5> off to find the alternate install
[00:52] <OpenMedia> jayshotta: Are you sure it isn't just an xorg.conf or nvidia-settings issue?
[00:53] <laga> OpenMedia: hey steve ;)
[00:54] <OpenMedia> Hi laga. Hows things.. Keeping busy with 8.04?
[00:54] <laga> OpenMedia: yeah.. release will take another few hours, unfortunately
[00:55] <OpenMedia> I'll be at UbuntuLive and OSCON again this year.
[00:55] <OpenMedia> Got a speaker slot at OSCON.
[00:55] <laga> nice
[00:55] <OpenMedia> 8.04b is running well off a 4G USB stick as root.
[00:55] <laga> nice
[00:55] <OpenMedia> Any of the Dev's going to be a UB Live?
[00:55] <laga> oops, repating myself there
[00:56] <laga> not me, but maybe some others
[00:56] <OpenMedia> superm1: is probably too busy with his new job..
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> I might be there, but just as an attendie
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> my loco team is strongly urging me to go
[00:57] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: I'm put in a proposal for a Mythtv + Video BOF as part OSCON.
[00:57] <OpenMedia> sorry s/I'm/I've/
[00:57] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet
[00:58]  * tgm4883_laptop forsees an epic dual between UMC and Mythbuntu
[00:58] <tgm4883_laptop> they will make movies out of it
[00:58] <OpenMedia> laga: Any last minute niggles with the 8.04 build.
[00:58] <OpenMedia> tgm4883_laptop: Oh I agree.
[00:58] <laga> yeah, like the matrix. only that neo starts spitting python backtraces halfway through the movie
[00:58] <laga> oh, that was mean
[00:59] <laga> OpenMedia: nothing critical i hope :)
[00:59] <tgm4883_laptop> bah, i got to stop checking our mirrors every 5 minutes
[01:00] <c3rb3rus5> forgive my ignorance... but what is UMC?
[01:00] <tgm4883_laptop> Ubuntu Media Center
[01:00] <c3rb3rus5> never heard of it... interesting
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> c3rb3rus5, hasn't been released yet
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> not sure when it plans on it
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> but from what I've read, Ibex +1 maybe?
[01:01] <tgm4883_laptop> +1 or +2
[01:01]  * tgm4883_laptop could be waaaay offf
[01:03] <c3rb3rus5> is it supposed to rival myth and have most of the same functionality?
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> um
[01:03] <OpenMedia> Using elisa etc
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> same functionality, yes
[01:03] <tgm4883_laptop> rival myth?
[01:03] <OpenMedia> I was talking to Malcolm about it at UBLive last year
[01:03] <c3rb3rus5> well... alternative to
[01:04] <tgm4883_laptop> they did look at using mythtv (or mythbuntu) but IIRC went with elisa because It was python
[01:05] <OpenMedia> Catch you later.. Gotta make our young one some lunch
[01:05] <c3rb3rus5> i see
[01:05] <superm1> OpenMedia, oh?
[01:05] <superm1> proposal?
[01:05] <superm1> accepted?
[01:06] <jayshotta> Can anyone help me add a 250GB hdd to my Mythbuntu 8.04 for extra storage
[01:08] <jayshotta> Im ripping all my dvd's to mythbuntu each take bout 3hrs but ima need more space
[01:08] <pdragon> already have it plugged in?
[01:08] <LeeSharp> jayshotta:  How did you set up your disk originally?  (LVM perhaps?)
[01:10] <jayshotta> One sata standard install the second drive is ditached
[01:10] <jayshotta> detached
[01:11] <LeeSharp> How big is drive one?  How much is on your data directory?
[01:11] <laga> LeeSharp: i think he just wants storage groups, nothing fancy
[01:11] <jayshotta> Its a fresh install 2x 250SATA drives
[01:12] <pdragon> may not even need a storage group if he's just using it for DVD ripping
[01:12] <pdragon> going to be recording anything besides DVDs to this drive or just ripping DVDs?
[01:13] <LeeSharp> Ick...  If it is very fresh, I would reinstall LVM to use both drives as a single filesystem.  But I may be overshooting the mark.  What are you trying to do?  Is your system "full" and you need more space?
[01:13] <jayshotta> jsu ripping DVD
[01:14] <jayshotta> I archive my shows n delete them after a while
[01:14] <pdragon> no need to overcomplicate with LVM then if it's already installed and working
[01:14] <laga> there is no need for LVM
[01:14] <LeeSharp> In that cast, fire up gparted and format it, and mount it in /mnt with user permissions.
[01:14] <tgm4883_laptop> jayshotta, IMO, you should do storage groups, then stick your dvd's on the second drive
[01:14] <LeeSharp> In that case...
[01:15] <c3rb3rus5> fetching file 1 of 784.... this might take a while
[01:16] <jayshotta> I will do g parted and format n mount
[01:16] <pdragon> jayshotta: install gparted with synaptic and then start it up to format it. I'd recommend XFS since there will be large file sizes
[01:16] <jayshotta> what does storage group do ?
[01:16] <pdragon> do you need a storage group for the DVD ripper?
[01:16] <pdragon> i thought it was just a folder path
[01:17] <jayshotta> I jus want to have enough space to have all my DVD's
[01:17] <jayshotta> watever is easiest n simplest
[01:17] <jayshotta> now I have a fresh 250 and an unformated 250 in system
[01:18] <pdragon> ok. just start up gparted and format the unformated one with XFS and make a folder you'd like to mount it to
[01:18] <pdragon> making the folder in their your home folder or the /opt directory would probably be a good place
[01:18] <LeeSharp> c3rb3rus5: debtorrent FTW.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedPackageManagement
[01:18] <pdragon> in your home folder i mean
[01:19] <jayshotta> ok so /home/movies will do
[01:19] <pdragon> well, in your user home folder i mean
[01:20] <pdragon> /home/username/movies
[01:20] <jayshotta> yeah
[01:22] <jayshotta> so when current 250 is full how do I direct myth to  change to /home/username/movies to collect new movies so they are visible in Media library
[01:22] <pdragon> hmm... i haven't ripped dvds in a while. anyone else know if it's the Archive File Settings path he'd want to set as that location?
[01:23] <c3rb3rus5> so if i do an upgrade over the network will it be pulling anything differently then if i do it via the alternate install cd?
[01:24] <MythbuntuGuest49> when does the new release emerge?! :)
[01:24] <pdragon> can set the folder for Video files by going to Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> Media Settings -> Video Settings
[01:24] <jayshotta> If LVM is less comlicated I am willing to try
[01:24] <pdragon> -> General Settings
[01:24] <jayshotta> ooh ok
[01:25] <jayshotta> thank you so library will still see both sources of video file storage
[01:25] <pdragon> so, you could actually do one of two things... you could mount the directory it's set to by default to your new drive
[01:25] <pdragon> or you can set that folder to your custom location
[01:25] <pdragon> no, it only sees one folder for video files
[01:27] <jayshotta> thats wat i wanted to avoid I wanted when one 250 is fill to shift to the other so LVM sounds like only option to have one large drive
[01:27] <pdragon> yeah, if you want one large drive, then you would need to do LVM
[01:27] <jayshotta> How would i go that route
[01:28] <jayshotta> I do have the alternate CD
[01:28] <pdragon> personally, i have one hard drive for LiveTV & Recording and a second drive for everything else
[01:28] <pdragon> i'm not sure how to do LVM myself, i've never done it
[01:28] <jayshotta> Your setup is kings wat Im goin for
[01:28] <jayshotta> but 250 with movies get filled quick really fast
[01:29] <pdragon> yes it would. I have a 750GB for my second drive
[01:29] <jayshotta> bout 1-2 gigs per movie
[01:29] <pdragon> a 250 for my main
[01:30] <jayshotta> not a bad Idea I might just go your route get a 750 myself and mount it then just transfer movie files over
[01:30] <pdragon> might as well go for a 1TB :)
[01:30] <jayshotta> I kno rite
[01:30] <c3rb3rus5> hell, just buy a gigabit NAS and load it up with a few TB drives :-p
[01:31] <jayshotta> the method you proposed is that your current config
[01:31] <jayshotta> I have a 500GB nad but cannot get MYTH to see it
[01:31] <jayshotta> its running freenas
[01:32] <c3rb3rus5> wow.... the upgrade is downloading at 600 b/s
[01:32] <c3rb3rus5> that is like 9 days to complete
[01:32] <npurciful> server are jamed
[01:32] <c3rb3rus5> i'm burning the alternate install disk
[01:32] <jayshotta> Servers loadbalance been kicking in all day
[01:32] <pdragon> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+1035915133+103530090&name=800GB+and+higher
[01:32] <c3rb3rus5> gonna update from that
[01:33] <npurciful> it has been the sam for about 3 days now the Alt ISO
[01:33] <jayshotta> prices are not bad
[01:34] <c3rb3rus5> does that mean that its not a smart idea?  maybe upgrade another time?
[01:34] <jayshotta> Servers are gonna be like that for atleast 3 days
[01:34] <c3rb3rus5> after tonight, i wont have a chance to upgrade till at least mon
[01:35] <npurciful> no it mean if you have a Alternate ISO and i was updated less than 3 days ago then i is probly the same
[01:35] <c3rb3rus5> i just got it tonight
[01:35] <c3rb3rus5> so i would hope
[01:35] <npurciful> where you going to rysnc of jigdo?
[01:35] <npurciful> s/of/or
[01:36] <c3rb3rus5> i honestly dont know
[01:36] <c3rb3rus5> i think rsync... i dont know what jigdo is
[01:36] <npurciful> err my spelling sucks today
[01:37] <npurciful> what iso do you have
[01:37] <c3rb3rus5> ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[01:37] <c3rb3rus5> got it over BT
[01:38] <npurciful> how long ago did you get it
[01:38] <c3rb3rus5> less then an hour
[01:39] <npurciful> you downloaded it less than a hour ago?
[01:40] <c3rb3rus5> yea
[01:41] <npurciful> here check the md5sum 7d0ac92c56361949d099dd9337c975e7 *ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[01:41] <npurciful> if it is the same upgrade from it
[01:42] <npurciful> md5sum <isoimage>
[01:42] <c3rb3rus5> does that work in win?
[01:42] <npurciful> no
[01:42] <bazzawill> when is mythbuntu 8.10 scheduled/likely for release??
[01:42] <c3rb3rus5> oct?
[01:42] <bazzawill> sorry 8.04
[01:42] <npurciful> you will have to get a md5 tool
[01:43] <c3rb3rus5> looking now
[01:43] <pdragon> should be in the next day or so
[01:43] <bazzawill> cool thanks
[01:44] <c3rb3rus5> so is upgrading a mythbuntu install using an alternate 8.04 image gonna screw things up... maybe i should ask that before going forward
[01:44] <npurciful> c3rb3rus5:  http://beeblebrox.org/hashtab/
[01:45] <c3rb3rus5> ok
[01:45] <c3rb3rus5> ye the hash checks out ok
[01:45] <npurciful> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[01:45] <npurciful> goto: Upgrading using the alternate CD/DVD
[01:45] <c3rb3rus5> that is not gonna trash a mythbuntu install though... right?  basically i dont wanna end up losing mythtv
[01:46] <pdragon> i'd wait... it won't be that long :p
[01:46] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[01:46] <c3rb3rus5> maybe its for the best
[01:47] <npurciful> okay
[01:47] <npurciful> well you know
[01:48] <c3rb3rus5> my luck and previous track records with everything mythtv suggest that doing anything out of the ordinary will be catastrophic
[01:49] <npurciful> heh, i have been running the alpha and beta then rc's it has been a bummping ride, the price i pay for cutting edge
[01:49] <npurciful> i dump my database every hour in cause for failer
[01:49] <npurciful> failure
[01:50] <pdragon> yeah, my upgrade from 7.10 to alpha didn't go super smooth. backend kept crashing. so, installed beta on a second harddrive to test things then reloading final from scratch on my original drive
[01:50] <pdragon> got a brand new box for my backend, so it's a good time to reload anyway :)
[01:50] <npurciful> yeah done that too
[01:51] <pdragon> yeesh... 5684 seeders for 8.04 desktop
[01:53] <pdragon> woop... 4332... refresh was turned off. still, lotta people :)
[01:57] <c3rb3rus5> i am currenly using a firewire card, as unput 3... i originally configured my kworld card as input 1, and firewire before i upgraded to .21 as input 2
[01:58] <c3rb3rus5> i dont use the card anymore (analog sounds like chipmonks)
[01:58] <c3rb3rus5> so i have only one tuner as card 3
[01:59] <c3rb3rus5> also, mytharchive refuses to work when i try to export tv to dvd...
[01:59] <c3rb3rus5> i'm thinkin a fresh reinstall might clear up some other issues too
[01:59] <npurciful> c3rb3rus5: sound like your audio setting is off if it sound like the chipmonks
[01:59] <c3rb3rus5> i was playing around with it for a good while
[01:59] <c3rb3rus5> i finally gave up
[01:59] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[02:00] <c3rb3rus5> every once in a while firewire just stops working... although i think i found out how to solve that issue
[02:00] <npurciful> there are setting in "capture card' in backend and settings in 'Recording profiles'
[02:00] <c3rb3rus5> its very finicky :-p
[02:00] <pdragon> i'm just glad i figured out how to get my spdif working on the new soundcard i got. woo for real surround sound now! :D
[02:00] <c3rb3rus5> haha, nice
[02:01] <pdragon> http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=41
[02:01] <npurciful> my was to and i had to got to each profile and hit enter though all the screens to get it to stop
[02:01] <pdragon> got one of those for $49 off woot.com
[02:01] <c3rb3rus5> npurciful: you had chipmunk sound too?
[02:01] <npurciful> yeah
[02:02] <npurciful> i have 4tuners
[02:02] <c3rb3rus5> its like the audio is timescaled and stutters
[02:02] <c3rb3rus5> so its chipmunks stutter, chipmunks, etc
[02:03] <npurciful> that is sweet video and audio?
[02:03] <c3rb3rus5> but since i have firewire working great, i guess i can't complain
[02:03] <c3rb3rus5> yeam the vid and audio would stutter a little
[02:03] <c3rb3rus5> s/yeam/yea,
[02:04] <npurciful> c3rb3rus5: i spent days getting thing to work, i was about to shoot myself in the foot then it started working
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> i bought the system feb of last year
[02:04] <pdragon> yeah, i tried getting that sound card to work on 7.10 without much luck
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> put it together, had a hell of a time getting things to work
[02:04] <pdragon> works right out of the box in 8.04 :D
[02:04] <npurciful> so naturely i had to break it to fix it again
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> then firewire stopped working
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> and the system was dead
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> well
[02:04] <c3rb3rus5> more or less
[02:05] <c3rb3rus5> the card was not working, there is no fclear qam around here
[02:05] <c3rb3rus5> so it sat for months
[02:05] <c3rb3rus5> and then i tried it one day and the firewire gods were smiling upon me
[02:06] <c3rb3rus5> i think overall i have installed about 15 different times altogether...resorted to trying vista mce once, and sage tv
[02:06] <c3rb3rus5> maybe more then 15
[02:06] <c3rb3rus5> its been painful
[02:06] <c3rb3rus5> haha
[02:06] <npurciful> heh, becomes easier
[02:06] <c3rb3rus5> npurciful: yea.. once it works... i wanna bgreak things again.  never happy
[02:12] <npurciful> ah, i back
[02:13] <npurciful> i was checking out the AC-1 Gaming card
[02:13] <c3rb3rus5> whats that?
[02:13] <pdragon> the one i linked
[02:13] <c3rb3rus5> right
[02:14] <pdragon> fantastic sound!
[02:14] <pdragon> put in Star Wars Ep 2 to test it out
[02:14] <c3rb3rus5> honestly, i never really noticed a difference between decent onboard sound and a soundcard...
[02:14] <c3rb3rus5> then again i dont have surround speakers..
[02:15] <pdragon> the optical surely helps
[02:15] <npurciful> yeah i love my Audigy Platium cost me 329.99 like 6 years ago
[02:16] <pdragon> yeah i have it hooked up to a 5.1 receiver
[02:16] <npurciful> yeah all sound goes though my 5.1 sound system
[02:18] <npurciful> AC-1 looks like a emu10k1 chip
[02:18] <pdragon> that card definitely ain't worth full retail, but $49 was hard to pass up
[02:18] <pdragon> no, C-media
[02:18] <pdragon> sec
[02:18] <npurciful> yeah that is a steel
[02:18] <pdragon>  C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio]
[02:20] <pdragon> woot.com is an awesome website if you've never checked it out
[02:20] <pdragon> they sell one item every day. cheap but really really good stuff sometimes
[02:20] <pdragon> sometimes they're the first place to sell it too
[02:21] <c3rb3rus5> bag of crap
[02:21] <pdragon> hehe yeah
[02:22] <npurciful> huh never hurd of them
[02:23] <pdragon> the woot off's rule. 24-72 hours of non-stop sales. soon as the item is sold out another item goes up
[02:23] <pdragon> good things are gone in seconds
[02:25] <npurciful> crazy i guess it works for them
[02:29] <npurciful> well i think i am going to watch some tv
[02:29] <npurciful> later
[02:38] <pdragon> new Lost!
[02:57] <OpenMedia> superm1: Still around?
[04:01] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, yo
[04:13] <LeeSharp> Anyone know why users-admin won't unlock on a new Hardy alt-install?
[04:28] <shizno> is 8.04 RC the new hotness or is an official 8.04 mythbuntu going to be released later?
[04:34] <pdragon> final will be released
[05:19] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: whats up?
[05:19] <rhpot1991> you see what I said about ffmpeg before?
[06:11] <james_> hi
[06:14] <james_> anyone here got a kworld atsc 110?
[07:05] <darthanubis> rhpot1991, you get my email?
[07:05] <darthanubis> bug #6366
[07:06] <darthanubis> Launchpad bug 6366 in ffmpeg "Please enable AAC Support in ffmpeg" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6366
[07:07] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: ffmpeg in ubuntu doesn't have aac enabled
[07:07] <rhpot1991> you need medibuntu ffmpeg for that
[07:07] <rhpot1991> and it should work fine then
[07:08] <darthanubis> no it does not
[07:08] <darthanubis> thats what I had installe
[07:08] <darthanubis> ddid you even look at the email
[07:08] <darthanubis> the bug report?
[07:08] <rhpot1991> yes
[07:08] <darthanubis> the script has a type
[07:08] <darthanubis> typo
[07:08] <rhpot1991> no it doesn't
[07:08] <darthanubis> "aac" "libfaac"
[07:09] <darthanubis> geez
[07:09] <rhpot1991> aac is correct
[07:09]  * rhpot1991 just used it 2 minutes ago
[07:09] <rhpot1991> one of them is an older way of doing it, so either the mythbuntu is behind or yours is behind
[07:09] <darthanubis> I'm telling you what happened with the package on this system
[07:09] <darthanubis> you saw which package I was using
[07:09] <rhpot1991> either way mine works the medibuntu
[07:12] <darthanubis> thats an unacceptable reply
[07:12] <darthanubis> what about the documented evidence?
[07:12] <rhpot1991> in the forums where it works for lots of people
[07:13] <rhpot1991> as well as people I've spoken with on here
[07:13] <darthanubis> "Works for me" does not mean it is ok.
[07:13] <rhpot1991> and works for me myself
[07:13] <rhpot1991> well I told you I never used nuv or tested them
[07:13] <rhpot1991> so I don't know what else you want me to say about that
[07:13] <darthanubis> it wwas broke for mpg as well
[07:14] <darthanubis> FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al
[07:14] <rhpot1991> in all honesty, you are the first person I have heard any problems from other than permission issues
[07:14] <darthanubis> thats the mediabuntu ffmpeg
[07:14] <darthanubis> we agreed yesterday we had the same package
[07:15] <darthanubis> there was 3 other bug reports that says I was not the only one
[07:15] <rhpot1991> dpkg -l ffmpeg | grep ^ii
[07:15] <rhpot1991> seriously you aren't listening to me
[07:15] <rhpot1991> ubuntu ffmpeg doesn't have aac
[07:15] <rhpot1991> medibuntu does
[07:15] <rhpot1991> so use that
[07:16] <darthanubis> yuor not listening
[07:16] <darthanubis> we did this yesterday
[07:16] <darthanubis> I toldd you I had the mediabuntu ffmpeg
[07:16] <darthanubis> you checked and said "good", you don't remeber?
[07:17] <rhpot1991> if that is the case then its a whole nother issue
[07:17] <darthanubis> I have one I compiled installed now
[07:17] <rhpot1991> I don't remember what all we checked, its been a lot of stuff
[07:17] <darthanubis> thats why we go in circles
[07:17] <darthanubis> and thats why I documented it for you
[07:18] <darthanubis> you keep telling me to use a pcakage that never works for me
[07:18] <rhpot1991> just use that if it fixes the problem, this isn't something I can change since I can't modify medibuntu and aac can't be included on the ubuntu variation
[07:18] <darthanubis> its called libfaac
[07:18] <darthanubis> thats why
[07:18] <rhpot1991> yes I am well aware of that
[07:18] <darthanubis> look at the report please
[07:18] <rhpot1991> --enable-libfaac
[07:18] <rhpot1991> its included in medibuntu
[07:18] <rhpot1991> I have looked at it
[07:19] <rhpot1991> you aren't telling me anything new
[07:19] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythexport/+bug/221053/comments/1
[07:19] <darthanubis> did you see that?
[07:19] <darthanubis> and the difference in the two
[07:19] <rhpot1991> 2. There is no "libfaac" support compiled into mediabuntu's ffmpeg. Thus
[07:19] <rhpot1991> resulting in the file error.
[07:19] <rhpot1991> that is wrong
[07:19] <darthanubis> and while I'm using a ffmpeg, that works for me
[07:20] <darthanubis> your script still does not call ffmpeg and start
[07:20] <PlaneRacer> hi all
[07:20] <darthanubis> even after I changed all "aac" to "libfaac"
[07:21] <darthanubis> if you could share with me how your script calls ffmpeg, I can fix it myself
[07:21] <PlaneRacer> is myth supports nexus-s cards?
[07:21] <rhpot1991> its just a perl script so you can modify it yourself
[07:22] <darthanubis> not listenig again
[07:22] <darthanubis> I did
[07:22] <darthanubis> if you could share with me how your script calls ffmpeg, I can fix it myself
[07:23] <rhpot1991> (2:21:56 AM) rhpot1991: its just a perl script so you can modify it yourself
[07:23] <darthanubis> at the end of the script its supposed to call ffmpeg to start the job
[07:23] <darthanubis> why are you being so crass about this?
[07:23] <rhpot1991> look at the code, it stores commands to run along the way
[07:23] <rhpot1991> and runs them at the end
[07:24] <rhpot1991> are you amd64 or i386?
[07:25] <rhpot1991> and did you verify that ffmpeg did not have libaac installed on your medibuntu package?
[07:26] <darthanubis> amd64
[07:26] <darthanubis> and of course I did
[07:26] <rhpot1991> as am I and I can tell you that it has aac support
[07:26] <rhpot1991> and is called correctly with -acodec aac
[07:26] <darthanubis> thats what the bug report is all about
[07:27] <rhpot1991> you are filing a bug that doesn't make sense, as it works, so you have some other issue
[07:27] <darthanubis> built on Mar 12 2008 15:36:03, gcc: 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu4)
[07:27] <darthanubis> /home/anubis/store/mythtv/video/1061_20080422190000.mpg: I/O error
[07:27] <darthanubis> occured
[07:27] <darthanubis> built on Apr 24 2008 01:48:26, gcc: 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)
[07:27] <darthanubis> Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate:
[07:27] <darthanubis> 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 29.97 (30000/1001)
[07:27] <darthanubis> Input #0, nuv, from
[07:27] <darthanubis> '/home/anubis/store/mythtv/video/1061_20080423200000.nuv':
[07:27] <darthanubis>   Duration: 34:48:29.08, start: 0.400000, bitrate: 127 kb/s
[07:29] <darthanubis> only issue I have is the maintainer of the script does not want to acknowldge my bug
[07:29] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: could be another issue with ffmpeg, and sadly I don't maintain that so I couldn't really tell you what the problem is there
[07:29] <rhpot1991> cause its not a bug with my script
[07:29] <rhpot1991> its either a ffmpeg bug or a problem with your video files
[07:29] <rhpot1991> and you are here pointing the finger at me
[07:29] <darthanubis> thats why its filed as a ffmpeg bug
[07:30] <darthanubis> that affects other programs that use ffmpeg
[07:30] <darthanubis> as the other bugs clearly state
[07:30] <rhpot1991> well you wont get aac in ubuntu
[07:30] <rhpot1991> thats why you need to go to medibuntu
[07:31] <darthanubis> if you were to busy to read the duplicates
[07:31] <rhpot1991> which I have stated before
[07:31] <rhpot1991> I looked at it, and I know it wont happen
[07:31] <darthanubis> thats why I did, and thats how all this started
[07:31] <darthanubis> yet you continue to repeat that?
[07:31] <rhpot1991> as you continue to ask for a feature that cannot be added to ubuntu
[07:31] <rhpot1991> licensing forbids it
[07:32] <darthanubis> forbids libfaac?
[07:32] <darthanubis> no aac
[07:32] <darthanubis> libfaac does the samething
[07:32] <darthanubis> and is gpl
[07:32] <darthanubis> ubuntu can't add that?
[07:33] <rhpot1991> my understanding was no, you wont get x264 either I don't think
[07:36] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: Unknown codec 'libfaac'
[07:36] <rhpot1991> 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7+medibuntu1
[07:36] <iamlindoro_> -acodec aac and -acodec libfaac call the same library in ffmpeg.  It is only a matter of acodec naming format changes that happened recently.  -acodec aac us the old style, -acodec libfaac is the new style.  Change occurred about six months ago.  libfaac support won't be added to Ubuntu ffmpeg for the same reason that mp3 support won't be, it's patent encumbered.
[07:37] <rhpot1991> thank you iamlindoro_
[07:37] <iamlindoro_> no problem
[07:37] <hansoffate> hi
[07:38] <hansoffate> if i'm using 7.10, should i upgrade to 8.04?
[07:38] <iamlindoro_> anyway, just so you know it's neither your scripts fault nor a bug with ffmpeg, just a version mismatch
[07:38] <iamlindoro_> off to bed
[07:39] <hansoffate> i haven't been to the mythbuntu webpage in a while.  I really like the new theme.
[07:39] <rhpot1991> iamlindoro_: thats what I have been trying to explain that by using non ubuntu ffmpeg they might not match up, and I can't change anything cause it would then break for the fully ubuntu users
[07:39] <hansoffate> i haven't upgraded anything since i configured my pvr
[07:43] <darthanubis> I'm going to purge ffmpeg and mythexport and start over, is there a way to purge ffmpeg without dismantling the system?
[07:43] <darthanubis> iamlindoro_, thanks for that info
[07:45] <rhpot1991> darthanubis: easiest way is to do complete remove from synaptic
[07:45] <rhpot1991> or dpkg --purge
[07:45] <darthanubis> it wants to tear down the system that way
[07:46] <darthanubis> was the cmd to ignore dependencies?
[07:47] <darthanubis> nvm
[08:00] <hansoffate> i got a question
[08:01] <hansoffate> can I just swap out my video card if I want to upgrade it?
[08:01] <hansoffate> rhpot1991:
[10:20] <bogus-> what's the diff between direct desktop and direct alternate download?
[10:25] <mr_dallas> hello
[10:26] <bogus-> ah figured it out already :p
[10:30] <mr_dallas> ping #ubuntu-mythtv
[10:32] <mr_dallas> have installed mythbuntu, when trying to simply play TV, get a black screen, no sound, pvr card verified to work with vlc
[11:14] <laga> morning.
[11:14] <laga> someone should update the topic
[11:52] <Daviey> laga: thar yu go
[11:55] <laga> yay.
[12:01] <frink_> cool
[12:06] <OpenMedia> laga.. Morning already..
[12:06]  * frink_ seeds
[12:07] <frink_> hey OpenMedia
[12:08] <OpenMedia> Upgraded my 8.04 RC test bed.. Looks good.
[12:08] <frink_> nice
[12:08] <frink_> i'll do a fresh install over the weekend
[12:08] <OpenMedia> Existing myPVR layer from feisty needed 2-3 tweaks for 8.04
[12:08] <frink_> u iz in nz innit
[12:09] <frink_> do you have dodgytal telly?
[12:09] <OpenMedia> The dependancy on libmyth-0.20
[12:09] <OpenMedia> http://freeviewnz.tv
[12:09] <OpenMedia> DTH in MPEG2 and DTT in H.264
[12:09] <frink_> cool.
[12:09] <frink_> What DVB card do you have?
[12:09] <OpenMedia> Problem is H.264 doesn't quite work
[12:10] <OpenMedia> Using a couple of USB devices. Hauppauge HVR 900 and Freecom stick
[12:10] <frink_> cool
[12:10] <OpenMedia> They save moving cards between test rigs.
[12:10] <frink_> I have the hauppauge thing
[12:10] <OpenMedia> Waiting on the HVR 2200 support
[12:10] <frink_> what USB sticks work properly?
[12:10] <OpenMedia> Lots..
[12:11] <frink_> any u can recommend?
[12:11] <OpenMedia> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/
[12:11] <OpenMedia> Hauppauge needs some hacking around.
[12:11] <frink_> yeah but what do you recommend that works? :)
[12:11] <OpenMedia> They are the only two i've personally tried.
[12:11] <frink_> k
[12:12] <OpenMedia> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_USB_Devices
[12:13] <OpenMedia> Anything under 1.12 works well
[12:13] <frink_> has the nova-t-500 USB disconnect problem been fixed yet?
[12:13] <OpenMedia> DiBComs stuff is supposed to be good.
[12:13] <OpenMedia> Some discussions about the Nova-T on the mailing list. Don't know if it is fixed under Hardy though.
[12:14] <OpenMedia> Biggest problem stopping me is LATM HE-AAC audio and H.264 _+ spatial direct interlaced video
[12:15] <OpenMedia> I have HW that works, but can't handle freeview DTT
[12:15] <OpenMedia> frink_: Where are you?
[12:16] <frink_> here :)
[12:16] <OpenMedia> LOL
[12:16] <frink_> so its all still broken
[12:16] <frink_> I knew I should not have purchased that bloody hauppauge thing
[12:16] <OpenMedia> Some people have it working fine.
[12:17] <frink_> yeah
[12:17] <frink_> but you still seem to get occasional USB disconnects
[12:17] <frink_> and it annoys my wife, and she is pregnant, so it annoys me too :)
[12:17] <OpenMedia> So where are you for your DVB-T?
[12:19] <frink_> London
[12:20] <OpenMedia> Yeah I got my freecom on a trip to the UK.
[12:20] <OpenMedia> Got loads of channels at my parents place in Liverpool
[12:20] <OpenMedia> Got back to NZ and got 5 channels that weren't officially active.
[12:20] <frink_> yeah there are quite a few.. The BBC had some HD trials too.
[12:21] <frink_> do the USB things work OK plugged into a USB hub?
[12:21] <OpenMedia> The newer BBC stuff will be OK as it will be 720p
[12:21] <OpenMedia> our problem is with interlaced channels.
[12:21] <OpenMedia> Make sure it is a powered USB2 hub.
[12:21] <frink_> yeah
[12:24] <frink_> is the freecom thing OK?
[12:33] <OpenMedia> frink_: I've got one of the older freecom units
[12:34] <OpenMedia> rev4 devices are a big problem
[12:36] <frink_> yeah but how do you know your getting a rev4 ?
[13:26] <elliot42> Hi everyone, I've just installed mythbuntu 8.04 and am trying to set up lirc, but could someone please explain what the heck dkms is and why it's trying to build my modules for me??
[13:27] <TranceDude> hi
[13:27] <TranceDude> is there a shipit website for mythbuntu 8.04?
[13:27] <TranceDude> can anybody help me please?
[13:28] <elliot42> if there isn't yet, there will be
[13:28] <TranceDude> but is there one now or not?
[13:28] <TranceDude> because 'if there isn't yet' doesn't answer my question
[13:29] <elliot42> i don't know, but i'm having a look now
[13:29] <laga> TranceDude: there wont be one.
[13:29] <laga> elliot42: you've probably installed lirc-modules-source
[13:29] <laga> elliot42: which uses dkms to build kernel modules
[13:29] <laga> if you dont want it, remove lirc-modules-source
[13:30] <elliot42> but what is dkms?
[13:30] <laga> try google ;) i've never used it
[13:30] <laga> it's an automagic framework to build kernel modules if necessary
[13:30] <elliot42> hmm... k
[13:31] <elliot42> i don't mind if it builds my modules... but I'd like to configure them first =p
[13:32] <laga> elliot42: the modules already come with the ubuntu kernel
[13:32] <laga> there's no need to build them manually
[13:33] <elliot42> how does it know what type of receiver I'm using, or what serial port I'm using? It used to ask
[13:34] <laga> elliot42: sudo dpgk-reconfigure lirc or do it in the control centre
[13:37] <elliot42> well.. that's what I was looking for, thanks...
[14:36] <captain_paradise> Hi, i'm having trouble getting the tv to work with a leadtek winfast dvt 1000-t. Channels scan fine and when I run tzap it locks onto the channel fine, but when I try to watch tv through the mythtv frontend it just exits to desktop
[14:36] <captain_paradise> can't find anything helpful through google
[14:36] <captain_paradise> anyone had similar problems?
[14:36] <laga> captain_paradise: check /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log
[14:37] <captain_paradise> will do, starting up my myth box now...
[14:42] <captain_paradise> ok, everything seems fine until the last line where it says "NVP: Disabling Audio, params(-1,2,44100)"
[14:43] <captain_paradise> anything i should be looking for specifically?
[15:05] <laga> tgm4883_laptop: then fix it
[15:06]  * tgm4883_laptop i have ops in this channel :)
[15:06] <laga> :P
[16:03] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, ping
[16:08] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: hola
[16:12] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, you are the contact for the us-tx mirror right?
[16:19] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: yup, sure am.  is it misbehaving?
[16:24] <tgm4883_laptop> yea it's not responding
[16:24] <tgm4883_laptop> it is in sync though :)
[16:30] <jayshotta> Anyone else have a prob with mythbuntu 8.04 ripping some DVD at excellent quality coming out in a 4:3 format not 16:9
[16:31] <jayshotta> I have all my setting to 16:9 but it ripps some dvd in letterbox
[16:35] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: responding?  I'm logged into it right now
[16:36] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[16:36] <kees> oh craps, apache isn't responding.  feh
[16:36] <kees> oh, no, it's just being slow
[16:36] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[16:36] <tgm4883_laptop> sec
[16:56] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, seems to have come back.  I was getting a strange error before
[17:06] <slundell> Hmm... I seem to have my /etc/apt/sources.list fubared, anyone knows where I can find a fresh one (for 8.04)
[17:18] <MythbuntuGuest95> hello i have a problem with my graphic card driver gatos.... i cant install this in the new version ov mythbuntu
[17:20] <MythbuntuGuest95> no one can help me?
[17:22] <laga> MythbuntuGuest95: post on the forums maybe
[17:24] <MythbuntuGuest95> mh pherpaps you have an idear, "xorg config error the pkg scipt could not be foudn or is to old make sur it is in you path or set the pkg-config...."
[17:25] <MythbuntuGuest95> export XORG_PREFIX="/usr"
[17:25] <MythbuntuGuest95> export XORG_CONFIG="--prefix=$XORG_PREFIX --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var"
[17:25] <MythbuntuGuest95> ./configure $XORG_CONFIG --with-xorg-module-dir=$XORG_PREFIX/lib/xorg/modules
[17:25] <MythbuntuGuest95> and then it says the error...
[17:26] <MythbuntuGuest95> do you have an idear?
[18:02] <unknown> i just installed mythbuntu, and in the configuration it asks for database credentials. How do i create the correct database (i already  created a user)
[18:13] <unknown> found it
[18:50] <pdragon> holy hell the repositories are slow :/
[18:55] <jayshotta> I have all my setting to 16:9 but it ripps some dvd in letterbox
[18:56] <jayshotta> Any Ideas
[18:58] <pdragon> no, sorry
[18:59] <pdragon> was actually curious how to set it to 16:9 when ripping myself
[19:01] <jayshotta> I kno its weird  u do perfect its stays in 16:9 once u encode it goes 4:3
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest55> hello
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest55> anyone with dvb-s experience?
[19:22] <MythbuntuGuest55> I'm looking for a dvb-s2 compatible card with ci
[19:26] <Ryan1980> hi
[19:56] <famicom> FINALLY
[19:56] <famicom> IT IS DONE
[20:00] <famicom> FINALLY
[20:00] <famicom> IT WORKS
[20:03] <pdragon> \o/
[21:06] <jayshotta> Anyone else got that missing symbolic link in mythweb for viewing video library
[21:08] <free1> is there any fix for when I change audio driver settings, the changes will not save?
[22:03] <kees> Daviey: I need to remove my mirror (us-tx) from rotation -- I'm just getting crushed.  :P
[22:05] <Daviey> kees: np.. i'll do it now
[22:07] <kees> Daviey: okay, thanks.  I've chmod 0000'd my local directory, but my poor little machine just can't handle the IO load, it seems  :P
[22:10] <Daviey> kees: it's mythbuntu killing it?
[22:10] <Daviey> (done btw)
[22:11] <kees> Daviey: yeah.  apahce server status showed all my apache child slots being used -- all my other virtual servers were non-responsive.
[22:11] <kees> and I don't have enough system memory to just crank up the child limits.  *sigh*
[22:11] <MythbuntuGuest07> hello does any body know what driver i can use with my readn 7000 ve and tv out grapiccard?
[22:13] <Daviey> kees: i could re-add it, but with a MUCH lower priority, so you get less hits?  Obv. i'll wait until it recovers :)
[22:13] <Daviey> it's up to you :)
[22:26] <MythbuntuGuest07> no one an idear?
[22:27] <tgm4883_laptop> MythbuntuGuest07, ?
[22:28] <MythbuntuGuest07> hello does any body know what driver i can use with my readn 7000 ve and tv out grapiccard?
[22:30] <tgm4883_laptop> um, the open source radeon driver
[22:30] <MythbuntuGuest07> der funktioniert leider nicht, sobald ich den tv anschließe läd er die vesa driver
[22:31] <MythbuntuGuest07> ups sorry, this dont work, when i connect the tv, it load autom. the vesa drivers
[22:33] <laga> MythbuntuGuest07: what's the matter? :)
[22:36] <MythbuntuGuest07> :) the same problem.... the grapiccard drivers dont wok with tv out and my reaodn 7000 ve
[22:38] <MythbuntuGuest07> with the new version of mythbuntu the old gatos driver dont work, i cant install it say pkg-config not found or to old...and i dont know what i can do
[22:38] <laga> ah.
[22:39] <laga> well, post in the forums. it's a bit stressful to talk about something complicated like that on IRC.
[22:39] <laga> although recent ati drivers should support tv-out
[22:39] <laga> MythbuntuGuest07: read the manpage for "radeon"
[22:40] <MythbuntuGuest07> i search
[22:44] <MythbuntuGuest07> my i found that the readon driver sould be support for my card...
[22:45] <kees> MythbuntuGuest07: do you mean that your S-video output is not working?
[22:45] <kees> MythbuntuGuest07: see the xrandr commands at the end of: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-October/029292.html
[22:47] <MythbuntuGuest07> kees this i have try last time and i have only a flicker in my tv ...
[22:48] <MythbuntuGuest07> its so. i have installed mythbuntu and driver works correct automatic... but when i have connect only the tv, it says running in low grapic mode and he use the vesa driver with tvout and than i cant look videos
[22:49] <kees> MythbuntuGuest07: I don't know any more than what's there.  That works for my ati-based laptop for getting S-video working.  I would recommend opening a but against xserver-xorg-video-ati, and include your xorg.conf, file /var/log/X*0.log file, and output of "xrandr"
[22:49] <kees> MythbuntuGuest07: hm, not sure about that
[22:50] <MythbuntuGuest07> i have to month ago with the old mythbuntu try and try... but only the gatos driver have work... with tv out and my graphiccard
[22:51] <tgm4883_laptop> kees, I suppose those xrandr commands would also work on an ati 200m?
[22:51] <kees> tgm4883_laptop: they should, yeah
[22:52] <tgm4883_laptop> sweet i'll try that when I get home
[22:52] <tgm4883_laptop> I have a laptop that is causing me problems
[22:52]  * tgm4883_laptop can't even get the vga port to work right
[23:08] <MythbuntuGuest07> mhh i have used the readn driver again and in log says no screens found
[23:09] <tgm4883_laptop> *cough* http://digg.com/linux_unix/Mythbuntu_8_04_now_available *cough*
[23:13] <MythbuntuGuest07> mh when i connect one time only the tv now it not use the readon driver only filesafe.......somebody an idear?
[23:15] <MythbuntuGuest07> laga can you helop me pherhaps i dont know what i can try
[23:18] <MythbuntuGuest07> please
[23:19] <MythbuntuGuest07> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215763&highlight=gatos google foudn with tv out
[23:19] <MythbuntuGuest07> and this dont work
[23:19] <MythbuntuGuest07> in the new version, sould i have switched to the old version?
[23:21] <MythbuntuGuest07> laga pherhaps you can try it with vnc?
[23:21] <laga> i can try what?
[23:22] <MythbuntuGuest07> with vnc viewer?
[23:22] <laga> heh. sorry, i'm too busy. i suggest you post on the forums
[23:22] <laga> people have more time there
[23:22] <MythbuntuGuest07> connect to the mythbuntu and try something?
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest07> ok ... than i go to bed :) and morning is a other day to test and i make a entry in the forum...
[23:24] <MythbuntuGuest07> thanks for your help and good night to all
[23:25] <MythbuntuGuest07> bye bye