[00:00] <ubuntuROX> its waiting on you t accept it.
[00:00] <f0rmat> may i ask exactly who are the coders of ubuntu are they just everyone or anyone?
[00:00] <cygoku> goat|work ... Windows is not there at all anymore, I installed over it
[00:00] <barslow> x1250: wasnt able to actually get into ubuntu and I dont know enough terminal to diagnose
[00:00] <oddalot> ubuntoROX it won't let me send private msgs on this server, don't know if that will affect sending files as well
[00:00] <RyanPrior> matt____: If the LiveCD doesn't work, it's likely to be a graphics card driver problem.
[00:00] <goat|work> cygoku: oh
[00:00] <Saladin> Oh wow!
[00:00] <ubuntuROX> have an email address?
[00:00] <Saladin> Auto 3D windows
[00:00] <PePa> will I need to boot from the alt.CD, or can I just ...
[00:00] <oddalot> oddalot@yahoo.com
[00:00] <maco> PePa: no just have to mount it and add it as a repository
[00:00] <goat|work> cygoku: yes, then if you have,  sure
[00:00] <tanath> f0rmat, you can find more info about that on launchpad.net
[00:00] <dragao-azul> how can graphics card problems be solved in the live cd?
[00:01] <Fishscene> Who had the pink window problem in this screenshot? http://www.multigesture.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screenshot.png
[00:01] <f0rmat> tanath, thankyou
[00:01] <barslow> RyanPrior: One last question, I have compiz and all my themes setup just the way I like them, will they stay the same after the uprgrade (I'm using AWN with modified Mac4lin and Compiz is all set perfect)
[00:01] <matt____> RyanPrior: perhaps...but 7.10 is working fine. how could i check/fix though? the live cd takes me to a "busybox", not a normal terminal.
[00:01] <x1250> barslow: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the place to look, or ~/.xsession-errors
[00:01] <goat|work> cygoku: i wont be able to watch the channel, so if you have more q's message me
[00:01] <arbrandes> dragao-azul, use "safe graphics mode"
[00:01] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, any advice?
[00:01] <tanath> barslow, should be no change
[00:01] <cygoku> goat|work ... Thank you, and sorry for my rudeness earlier
[00:01] <barslow> hmm
[00:01] <PePa> OK
[00:01] <RyanPrior> barslow: I'd just about bet that something will break and you'll spend hours reconfiguring things. Upgrades tend to mess with your stuff.
[00:01] <dragao-azul> abrandes, then how can i solve the problems? make my ati card work fine?
[00:01] <PePa> thanks Maco
[00:01] <maco> Fishscene: nvidia driver quality
[00:01] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, did you answer my  last question?
[00:01] <kilrae> can you mount an encrypted lvm in Vista?
[00:01] <tanath> barslow, actually..
[00:01] <oddalot> i wonder how nerdy it would be if all these 1500 people where in a room at one time
[00:01] <sileni> he i installed build essential and tried to "make" but i get this error http://pastebin.com/m6dda8b39
[00:02] <ubuntuROX> there you go,, thats the one thats set for resolution auto,  it should work for you.
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you able to get a DHCP IP from the router?
[00:02] <barslow> ryanprior: im just gunna stick with gutsy then
[00:02] <maco> barslow: should stay, yes
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, no - i get "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[00:02] <oddalot> ok thanks, let me try it
[00:02] <ubuntuROX> modes anyhow
[00:02] <barslow> wow conflicting opinions
[00:02] <tanath> barslow, it may switch to the new default theme, but you can save your current theme/settings, and switch back after upgrade
[00:02] <Jimdb> matt___try a different CD reader...try adding ide=nodma on command line when you boot into the installer.
[00:02] <RyanPrior> oddalot: That's the Ubuntu Live conference. :-)
[00:02] <laeg> barslow: stick with gutsy forever?
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, do you know your routers ip address? 192.168.1.1?
[00:02] <matt____> RyanPrior: perhaps...but 7.10 is working fine. how could i check/fix though? the live cd takes me to a "busybox", not a normal terminal.
[00:02] <sileni> i dont understand how to change the flags
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, 192.168.0.1
[00:02] <tanath> barslow, i didn't have that problem though
[00:02] <sileni> like that error states
[00:02] <barslow> laeg: i dont want to but i dont wanna risk having to reformat my HD again
[00:02] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you using KDE or Gnome?
[00:02] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, gnome
[00:02] <Fishscene> Maco: it looked like the "mirror" or "shadow" (I forgot which) option in Compiz could fix that issue (Disabling the mirror or shadow effects)
[00:03] <oddalot> RyanPriot: Where is this ubuntu live conference?
[00:03] <mohbana> can i install ubuntu from a ntfs? without the wubi thing? i don't have a dvd to burn it on
[00:03] <oddalot> err when too
[00:03] <maco> barslow: your compiz settings will be saved.  there are more features in the new compiz though, so you might want to explore them after you upgrade
[00:03] <basso> I Love You All!
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, have you tried setting your IP to 192.168.0.100, your netmask to 255.255.255.0, and your gateway to 192.168.0.1?
[00:03] <tanath> barslow, there's always a risk when upgrading. personally, it fixed a lot of stuff for me, and i had minimal issues
[00:03] <matt____> RyanPrior: well, what would i search google for to fix this graphics card setting?
[00:03] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, I have (with 192.168.0.200) as .100 is already taken
[00:03] <tanath> barslow, and none of my settings in anything changed
[00:03] <ubuntuROX> I think its faster than gutsy was.
[00:03] <RyanPrior> barslow: It's certainly possible that you could upgrade and have everything work perfectly - the Ubuntu developers certainly try hard to make that happen. You can't bet on it, though.
[00:03] <Flannel> mohbana: there are ways to install without burning, check it out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[00:03] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, is 192.168.0.101 taken?
[00:03] <oddalot> brb
[00:04] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, yes
[00:04] <Saladin> Hm.
[00:04] <LOVElinux> salve a tutti!
[00:04] <RyanPrior> matt____: Google and the Ubuntu Forums are good places to search.
[00:04] <DBautell> heh, "select best server" "no suitable server was found"
[00:04] <tanath> yeah, it's faster :D
[00:04] <barslow> tanath: i am correct in assuming if I run the live-cd and have no issues that the upgrade will work?
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, do that now...
[00:04] <maco> RyanPrior: given my hardware, id take that bet
[00:04] <Saladin> I am unable, for some reason, to install any extensions.
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> set your ip to 192.168.0.101
[00:04] <barslow> RyanPrior: same question
[00:04] <RyanPrior> matt____: If you can get a hold of Amaranth, he/she tends to know a lot about graphics card issues as well.
[00:04] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, i have tried a manual set up through gnomes network manager and through /etc/network/interfaces and it still doesnt work
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> netmask: 255.255.255.0
[00:04] <Saladin> Sorry for being a pain - first upgrade.
[00:04] <tanath> barslow, that should be the case, though i've seen the livecd not work, and the install work...
[00:04] <Cpudan80> Anyone know why I can't play 2 sounds at the same time?
[00:04] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, check your PMs
[00:04] <maco> barslow: im using my compiz settings from feisty
[00:04] <Saladin> And I mean, extensions in Firefox.
[00:04] <ubuntuROX> make sure that FF3 is completely shut down before starting ff2
[00:04] <maco> barslow: it works fine
[00:04] <matt____> RyanPrior: ok, thanks
[00:04] <barslow> tanath: interesting
[00:04] <ng01> saladin.  ur such a pain... :)
[00:04] <romulo> hi, i installed the fglrx driver on ati but fgl_glxgears is not working and 3d apps are generally slow (like q3 in this super machine), can anyone hlelp me?
[00:04] <dragao-azul> if i install ubuntu is there any "easy" way to get my ATI HD2900Pro card working with all the graphics effects?
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: upgrading from gutsy?
[00:05] <Cpudan80> like ehh if I am using rhythmbox and xchat at the same time - and I get pinged in xchat, I wont hear the ping
[00:05] <Cpudan80> x1250: Yeah - just did
[00:05] <ubuntuROX> Saladin,, make sure FF3 is completely shut down before starting FF2
[00:05] <ben-g> i enabled my wireless in restricted drivers. Why won't it work?
[00:05] <tanath> barslow, there can be issues running of a disc. it's slower for one
[00:05] <RyanPrior> barslow: No, the LiveCD is not proof positive that the upgrade will work. The upgrade is affected by all the changes and customizations you make, so some of those may be messed with and you'll have to reconfigure things the way you want them.
[00:05] <matt____> Amaranth: hey buddy...after trying the 8.04 live cd (kubuntu and ubuntu), neither boots, both take me to a busybox, could this be a graphics issue?
[00:05] <igormorgado> is there any kernel difference between server/desktop  editions?
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: try installing pulseaudio
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, check your private messages
[00:05] <mad_max02> Would it be smart to go for update to hardy or is a clean install better choice ???
[00:05] <maco> romulo: are you using fglrx on a card that is so old its not supported with taght driver? thats the symptoms i saw when opensuse tried to use that driver on a radeon 9250
[00:05] <barslow> I'm real nervous about upgrading
[00:05] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, I cant reply as im not registered - let me register
[00:05] <ubuntuROX> otherwise you are still actually running FF3,, same thing happens the other way.
[00:05] <tanath> dragao-azul, run 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[00:05] <igormorgado> omg.. the chanel is very busy today, more than usual =D
[00:05] <matt____> mad_max02: i alwaws clean install. the only time i tried updating, it didn't work right :(*
[00:05] <x1250> Cpudan80: then configure pulseaudio to be used in system->prefs->sound
[00:05] <romulo> maco, my card is supported, its an x600 mobility
[00:05] <barslow> i finally have ubuntu exactly how i like it
[00:05] <tcpdumpgod> okay glaxo
[00:06] <Cpudan80> x1250: I'll give it a shot - thanks
[00:06] <dragao-azul> tanath, after that will it work fine? i don't have to do anything else?
[00:06] <Fishscene> Conventional wisdom dictates that clean installs are always better (and cleaner) than upgrades
[00:06] <ubuntuROX> my ubuntu is so how I like it its booring now :)
[00:06] <RyanPrior> barslow: If you have it exactly how you want it, no pressure to upgrade! It's still supported for many months.
[00:06] <gnuskoo1> barslow: go on, it'll be alright, or fun sorting it out
[00:06] <igormorgado> is there any kernel difference between server/desktop  editions?
[00:06] <tanath> dragao-azul, to configure X right. then run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' to check for direct rendering
[00:06] <mad_max02> matt____, thanks dude. I'll dl the 64 bit ver and install it tomorrow.
[00:06] <iDano84> ok, I got Ubuntu discs in the mail today. I'm the first to admit, I know little to know little to nothing about linux. When I pop in the disc (v 7.10 x64) I select install Ubuntu, and then loss of video input. I Have no idea where to start?
[00:06] <RyanPrior> barslow: If it's perfect right now, then it's only downhill from here, right?
[00:06] <RyanPrior> igormorgado: Nope, same kernel.
[00:06] <teo-> i need some help.. when i try to start ubuntu it doesn't start.. some busybox shell is started please help ?:S
[00:06] <igormorgado> RyanPrior: thank you
[00:06] <tanath> dragao-azul, there's a 'test' button to make sure you have it configured right, but after that, it should be good
[00:06] <RyanPrior> igormorgado: Same kernel, same packages, same tool chain, etc.
[00:06] <pale-yafa> guys, I have no firebug any more, cant work like that, why this is not mentioned?
[00:07] <Saladin> Yeah, I made sure FF3 was shut down, but still no success in installing extensions
[00:07] <RyanPrior> pale-yafa: Firebug works.
[00:07] <gnuskoo1> igormorgado: no, server has no desktop only
[00:07] <dragao-azul> tanath, ok, thz i'm going to try that
[00:07] <tanath> Saladin, still having trouble with extensions? did you try that extension i mentioned?
[00:07] <ubuntuROX> wierd,, you went to terminal and ran ps ax|grep firefox
[00:07] <maco> pale-yafa: firebug 1.2
[00:07] <barslow> RyanPrior: agreed
[00:07] <pretender> koverartist I cant select case in ubntu.  Any Ideas
[00:07] <pale-yafa> RyanPrior: its not, I upgraded to 8.4 and its telling me  its not compitable
[00:07] <Saladin> Sorry tanath, I missed what you said.
[00:07] <james_> how long would the online update to 8.04 take?
[00:07] <maco> pale-yafa: firebug 1.2
[00:07] <Dason> So..... what do I do if I can't download and install 8.04 if it won't work through the 'recommended' way?
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, no you didn't
[00:08] <joh6nn> i'm not quite sure how to explain this properly, but whenever i use screen, apps like vim, that do their own paging, don't clear the screen properly.  i'm fairly certain that i just need to tell screen to pretend it's a different terminal, but i don't know which terminal to tell it to be.  anyone have ideas?
[00:08] <barslow> i think i'll wait untill there are a couple updates to 8.04 b4 taking the plunge
[00:08] <maco> pale-yafa: you need to update your firebug
[00:08] <ubuntuROX> just to make absolutely sure it was shut down?
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, was a while ago. you acknowledged it
[00:08] <dee_cz> hi, im running the memtest from ubuntu cd, how long should it take?
[00:08] <igormorgado> gnuskoo1: thank you too =D
[00:08] <cygoku> Using Hardy Heron RC here ... Are the repos down ??
[00:08] <maco> cygoku: of course
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, nightly tester tools extension
[00:08] <ubuntuROX> yes,, but cygoku did you update recently?
[00:08] <gnuskoo1> i got thinkpad r51 and gnome is really sluggish on xfce, any hints? intel 82528 graphics card
[00:08] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: It will take forever, literally. It keeps running until you tell it to stop.
[00:08] <cygoku> Maco : "of course" ??
[00:08] <barslow> ryanprior: can you choose to install8.04 without Firefox beta3
[00:08] <maco> cygoku: its release day for a very popular distro.  what makes you think they could survive that?
[00:08] <Fishscene> All Servers for Hardy Heron are bogged down at the moment and likely will be for at least another day.
[00:08] <Dason> what do I do if I can't download and install 8.04 if it won't work through the 'recommended' way?
[00:08] <teo-> i need some help.. when i try to start ubuntu it doesn't start.. some busybox shell is started please help ?:S
[00:08] <Flannel> igormorgado, RyanPrior: There are kernel differences.  They have different hardware support (non-server is more likely to support 'regular' obscure hardware), and server has PREEMPT turned off, among other changes.  Of course, you can run a server kernel on the desktop, or a generic kernel on a server.
[00:08] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: The longer it runs without errors, the more sure you are that you don't have faulty memory. :-)
[00:08] <tanath> Saladin, makes firefox think your extensions are compatible. but i recommend enabling them one at a time
[00:09] <matt____> Amaranth: hey buddy...after trying the 8.04 live cd (kubuntu and ubuntu), neither boots, both take me to a busybox, could this be a graphics issue?
[00:09] <maco> cygoku: this happened last time too.
[00:09] <dee_cz> RyanPrior: do you know what is the 'safe' margin? how long should it run so that i can say it probably isnt the memory?
[00:09] <RyanPrior> barslow: Nope, distro upgrades are all-or-nothing affairs pretty much.
[00:09] <tanath> Saladin, 'cause some will work, and some won't, and some may prevent it from running
[00:09] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[00:09] <cygoku> I think they can survive that because nothing should affect the linux image
[00:09] <Dason> what are other methods of installing 8.04?
[00:09] <ubuntuROX> cygoku If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[00:09] <RyanPrior> dee_cz: If you're seriously suspicious about your memory, I'd run it for a few hours to get your memory really hot and loaded.
[00:09] <igormorgado> Flannel: I wish to know if desktop one has virtualization support.
[00:09] <maco> cygoku: last time the entire ubuntu.com was taken down and replaced with a plain white background, black text "welcome to ubuntu.com here's a list of download links:" page
[00:09] <gnuskoo1> teo-: what messages you getting?
[00:09] <cwillu> pale-yafa, this is kinda scary:  you need to use firebug, but you can't be bothered to check getfirebug.com, where it lists a version of firebug that works with ff3? ;p
[00:09] <DBautell> dason, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[00:09] <tmccrary> So.... Hardy breaks eclipse
[00:09] <tanath> Saladin, if you end up enabling a bad one that prevents it from running, then run an older firefox to fix it
[00:09] <tmccrary> Fantastic
[00:10] <tanath> Saladin, (ie., disable that extension)
[00:10] <DBautell> Dason, or did you mean a fresh install?
[00:10] <maco> Dason: whats the recommended way that you cant do?
[00:10] <dee_cz> RyanPrior: its that xp is turning sound from the card into a squeal and gives a bsod every other day, with no specific error... but the 8.04 runs fine :/
[00:10] <Saladin> Well, strangely enough, tanath, that extension installed okay.
[00:10] <RyanPrior> tmccrary: Eclipse is not well supported on Ubuntu. However, I downloaded the latest Eclipse and run it from my /home folder, and it runs fine.
[00:10] <Dason> the update manager
[00:10] <Saladin> Whereas all others aren't.
[00:10] <tanath> Saladin, the nightly tester tools? of course ;)
[00:10] <jrabbit> ok
[00:10] <tmccrary> RyanPrior: Thanks for the tip. It ran great with Gutsy....
[00:10] <Fishscene> My hats off to Hardy Heron! Built in VMware support? How cool is that?
[00:10] <Dason> I don't want a fresh install
[00:10] <jrabbit> It errored for the third time
[00:10] <teo-> gnuskoo1 i don't get anything i am just putted in the busybox shell
[00:11] <pale-yafa> cwillu: how would I know thats its there? I just got a message that firefox beta does not support firebug, maybe it should say THIS VIRSION of firebug
[00:11] <rich_freecomm> heh, never download the desktop iso and the aleternate iso then try to update manager the new release.....it's gonna take me awhile :)
[00:11] <DirkGently> hey Fujitsu: tested Kubuntu on my laptop... the bcm43xx works fine... the PC even picks up my wireless router now without manual config... it was worth waiting a day :)
[00:11] <maco> Dason: whats the way that you cant install? we cant recommend alternatives without knowing what it was
[00:11] <jrabbit> [477.497091] Buffer I/O error on device sr0 Logic lock 169346
[00:11] <dryrot> does xen actually work in hardy ?
[00:11] <Dason> When I use apt-get and the default method of upgrading, it tells me that it can't connect to the server and to check my connection even though it's fine
[00:11] <jrabbit> Repeats
[00:11] <RyanPrior> pale-yafa: That's true. A better error message would be helpful.
[00:11] <jrabbit> then a SQUASHFS error
[00:11] <pale-yafa> anyway, if any body interested: Samba broke while upgrading
[00:11] <maco> Dason: oh...wait 2 days
[00:11] <Killeroid> Dason: too many people upgrading right now, servers hammered
[00:11] <ubuntuROX> Dason,, all the servers are bogged down with users
[00:12] <Dason> Oh that's sensible
[00:12] <Dason> No alternate repo's?
[00:12] <RyanPrior> Dason: Or, download the alternate CD via BitTorrent, burn it and put it in, and upgrade off of there.
[00:12] <gnuskoo1> do they release server download stats?
[00:12] <maco> Dason: theyre all pounded too :P
[00:12] <Some_Person> Why are there no updates available for my hardy-rc?
[00:12] <Dason> I have the cd
[00:12] <tanath> Saladin, a 'nightly' is a cutting edge build, released every day. it's an extension designed to enable extensions for testing on versions of firefox they aren't designed for
[00:12] <oddalot> hi can someone help me setting up my monitor with xorg.conf i can only get 640x480 and i had it working fine in 7.10
[00:12] <maco> Dason: you can upgrade from an alternate cd
[00:12] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo update-grub to fix that.
[00:12] <CyberCod> can someone tell me the md5sum for Hardy Desktop iso?  just burnt a fresh copy and it is bunk
[00:12] <maco> Dason: and there actually is a way to make it search for faster/working repos
[00:13] <tanath> Dason,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:13] <c0mp13371331337_> Help!  I started my dist-upgrade from work via SSH and miscalculated how long it would take!  I now have to leave work (and close the SSH connection).  If I send the apt-get process to the background, can I bring it to the foreground in a terminal window at home?
[00:13] <cwillu> Some_Person, the rc became the r
[00:13] <thebigham> What program can i use for ubuntu to display cpu temperture?
[00:13] <maco> Dason: but um...ask someone who uses a GUI how to do it, not me
[00:13] <Dason> Bittorrent was killer fast. so.. what's the command to use while in the cd?
[00:13] <pale-yafa> also: image with transparent backgrounds are having frames, which was not the case with Gutsy
[00:13] <maco> Dason: what tanath said
[00:13] <Some_Person> cwillu: with no changes?
[00:13] <Mike> Live CD only running at 800x600 on NV5700 card - any ideas...?
[00:13] <marx2k> So upgrading from ISO can only be done from the alternate install CD?
[00:13] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo update-grub to fix that.
[00:13] <RyanPrior> Some_Person: the RC and the final release are the same thing, unless the RC has major errors that get fixed.
[00:13] <jrabbit> tanath: Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[00:13] <[T]-Rex> anyone from sydney?
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, you're not in the best state
[00:13] <twinkie_addict> i'm looking forward to trying hardy . i'm installing via wubi
[00:13] <jjt001> how do i block a webpage in ubuntu?
[00:13] <maco> marx2k: yes
[00:13] <ubuntuROX> Some_Person did you see that?
[00:13] <JPSmon> this is madeness!!
[00:13] <Flannel> marx2k: That's correct (or the DVD)), the desktop CD doesn't support upgrades (except for reinstall)
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, ideally, having started it in a screen session, you'd be fine
[00:13] <maco> jjt001: parental-control-style?
[00:13] <marx2k> oh well
[00:13] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: yes, XChat highlighted it red
[00:13] <jjt001> maco: yeah
[00:13] <robeph> anyone familiar with automount/autofs?
[00:13] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, is it still downloading, or actually installing now?
[00:13] <maco> dansguardian
[00:13] <tanath> jrabbit, o.O
[00:14] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: what does update-grub do?
[00:14] <Dason> That's what I was looking for, thanks tanath
[00:14] <jrabbit> I serached on fourms
[00:14] <jrabbit> no dice
[00:14] <c0mp13371331337_> cwillu-  It's still downloading.
[00:14] <tanath> Dason, np
[00:14] <maco> Some_Person: rewrite your menu.lst based on the options set at the top of it
[00:14] <mad_max02> Where can I find full DVD of hardy for amd64 ???
[00:14] <ubuntuROX> it changes the label in your boot manager,, they forgot to do that
[00:14] <tmccrary> Man it would be so great to have an operating system that doesn't cause your apps to crash at random intervals
[00:14] <c0mp13371331337_> X-)
[00:14] <tmccrary> think of the possibilities
[00:14] <mad_max02> torrent would be nice
[00:14] <Some_Person> ubuntuROX: and i want that why?
[00:14] <DBautell> !torrents | mad_max02
[00:14] <ubotu> mad_max02: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[00:14] <Ertyle> !offtopic | tmccrary
[00:14] <ubotu> tmccrary: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:14] <Dason> Torrent has BLAZING speeds for downloading right now
[00:14] <maco> mad_max02: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[00:14] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, I think you'll be okay then;  you'll have to revert the changes to sources.list, but then you should be able to restart it (it'll reuse the packages it downloaded)
[00:14] <jjt001> maco: do you know how to block sites?
[00:15] <robeph> can't i just update my beta hardy to release ;) heh
[00:15] <jrabbit> can any one help me?
[00:15] <tmccrary> !offtopic | flyingspaghettimonster
[00:15] <CyberCod> anyone?  can anyone tell me the md5sum of the 8.04 desktop cd?   I need to know if it is my hardware that is malfunctioning or a bad disc
[00:15] <ubuntuROX> because you are already on the stable version, they just forgot to update the label where it says development version.
[00:15] <ubotu> flyingspaghettimonster: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:15] <mad_max02> maco, thanks dude
[00:15] <jrabbit> I'm serriously never using ubuntu again after all this install bullshit
[00:15] <c0mp13371331337_> cwillu - So I'm okay to just flat out stop the process?
[00:15] <cwillu> robeph, where you up to date leading up to the release?
[00:15] <Ertyle> !ops | tmccrary
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[00:15] <scizzo-> Dason: might be that there is almost 5000 seeders at the moment
[00:15] <maco> jjt001: dansguardian is a program for doing internet content filtering for parental controls
[00:15] <RyanPrior> Torrents are super fast! There are about 5000 seeds and 3000 peers right now.
[00:15] <cwillu> c0mp13371331337_, I think so, yes
[00:15] <robeph> cwillu: pretty much
[00:15] <robeph> couple days behind?
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> jrabbit: whats the problem?
[00:15] <redstelwerk> hello folks, could anyone post the /etc/apt/sources.lst from hardy to a pastebin, mine turned into a mess and I want to clear it out. thanks!
[00:15] <DBautell> mad_max02, the DVD torrents are pitiful, though
[00:15] <Dason> And that's why
[00:15] <tmccrary> !ops | hellogoodbye
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[00:15] <cwillu> robeph, you're probably running the release then
[00:15] <jjt001> maco: thanks
[00:15] <c0mp13371331337_> cwillu - Thanks a ton, you're a lifesaver!
[00:15] <Saladin> Although, tanath, it is now showing all my extensions on this FF2, but none of them work, and I can't click on enable or anything for them. However, before I did the Hardy upgrade, they all worked fine.
[00:15] <robeph> cwillu: ah ok
[00:15] <sileni> guys i get CFLAG error when i try to "make" anyone know solution?
[00:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[00:16] <mad_max02> DBautell, what do you mean by that ???
[00:16] <scizzo-> I have been seeding since the official announcement came out..... :S and its well hammering my network at the moment
[00:16] <jrabbit> IndyGunFreak: I can't get into any install enviorment avilible on the desktop CD
[00:16] <maco> sileni: dont use that CFLAG?
[00:16] <cygoku> I cannot believe repos are down ... Ppl would go mad insane and crazy if Microsoft Update would go down for even a second.
[00:16] <sileni> no
[00:16] <DBautell> mad_max02, 20-40k :(
[00:16] <oddalot> hi, my computer is gay, k thanks
[00:16] <robeph> so anyone familiar with autofs?
[00:16] <ubuntuROX> are you sure you are launching the FF2 version?
[00:16] <maco> jrabbit: bad burn?
[00:16] <IndyGunFreak> jrabbit: the live CD's don't work?
[00:16] <jrabbit> Not sure
[00:16] <sileni> maco, i try to make and it says that i do not know how to get past this
[00:16] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945). What can I do ?
[00:16] <arbrandes> oddalot, rofl
[00:16] <Saladin> Yes, ubuntuROX
[00:16] <sebastian> Hi, I'm having some issues with "Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI". I tried using some guides for 7.10 that are supposed to work for 8.04, but it isn't found in iwconfig.
[00:16] <jrabbit> maco: I can't verify the disk.
[00:16] <spork969> what are some dreamweaver-esque programs out there? i need a full functioning website and i don't have the time to brush up on my HTML
[00:16] <Dason> System > admin > softy srces > select best
[00:16] <mad_max02> DBautell, ah its ok. I got time :D I wasnt gonna install it until tomorrow anyways :D
[00:16] <oddalot> stupid monitor won't display right
[00:16] <ubuntuROX> hmm,, IM not sure then,, mine worked fine..
[00:16] <maco> oddalot: your computer fancies other computers of the same sex?
[00:17] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Microsoft doesn't have everybody clamoring for upgrades to Vista. If they made something people wanted, maybe they would have a harder time keeping up with demand. :-)
[00:17] <linkmaster03> When will the repos be back up grr
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: why not?
[00:17] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945). What can I do ?
[00:17] <ubuntuROX> oddalot that wouldnt do it for you?
[00:17] <tanath> Saladin, i had a weird issue like that the first time i tried to use the nightly exension. try restarting it, and make sure you select an extension, then right click and 'make compatible'
[00:17] <oddalot> nah
[00:17] <jrabbit> maco: It causes errors on disk
[00:17] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Besides, torrents are super super fast right now, and you can get all the packages via torrent.
[00:17] <DBautell> You're all set, then, mad_max02
[00:17] <maco> spork969: Nvu Kompozer
[00:17] <kasper> hey.. anyone care to help with some nvidia problems on hardy? - ive installed driver and it worked just afterwards. Its not working after a reboot.
[00:17] <jrabbit> I'll reburn and verify
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: guess what that means?
[00:17] <Dason> Wish XP wasn't getting dropped in June.
[00:17] <oddalot> i had to go back to default, it's this stupid old monitor
[00:17] <jrabbit> maco: ?
[00:17] <ubuntuROX> could always try what I did, with the manual install as root
[00:17] <cygoku> Oh I can get packaged trough torrent ?
[00:17] <the_darkside_986> i'm having trouble since Hardy clean upgrade. Everything is extremely laggy and even mouse movement stutters and the startup time is unbelievably slow. Is there a command to fix that?
[00:17] <cygoku> Link ?
[00:17] <DooMRunneR> damn wlan issues i have enough for today
[00:17] <DooMRunneR> good night :)
[00:17] <maco> jrabbit: if it cant verify because of errors, that confirms that its a bad burn
[00:17] <sean_> Dason: Why? Now you have a reason to go to ubuntu exclusively
[00:17] <jrabbit> It mounts fine in OSX
[00:17] <Dason> thepriratebay.org
[00:17] <SeaPhor> Has anyone discovered if RTL8185 wlan chipset works in 8.04? please?
[00:17] <Ian1> would anyone here be willing to help me (noob) fix grub for my new ubuntu install?
[00:17] <mad_max02> DBautell, yeah. I thought of upgrading my gutsy but I'll go with clean install. I wanna resize / partition to 50gb. I made a mistake and made it 100gb first place :D
[00:17] <oddalot> anyone here running a crt?
[00:17] <tanath> Saladin, um, i thought you were trying to enable FF2 extensions for FF3?
[00:18] <ariqs> Same here, dason. XP is a good OS despite what all the haters say ;)
[00:18] <cwillu> cygoku, this is typical stuff (look at any other app that has massive demand on very particular days, (which means I'm not talking about automatically downloaded windows updates, which are throttled precisely to avoid those problems :p))
[00:18] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Read the topic. Download the torrent for the Alternate CD.
[00:18] <maco> jrabbit: doesnt mean the data's not corrupt
[00:18] <jrabbit> iguess
[00:18] <Killeroid> redstelwerk: http://pastebin.ca/996448
[00:18] <linkmaster03> When will the repos be back up?
[00:18] <nibsa1242b> Quick question, is there a reason why a network upgrade is preferred to using the alternate disk?
[00:18] <redstelwerk> thanks Killeroid!
[00:18] <maco> linkmaster03: when people stop killing them
[00:18] <sean_> If I had hardy beta, do the regular updates just make it into the final version? or do I have to dist-upgrade?
[00:18] <CyberCod> OMFG  this is a mad house
[00:18] <Flannel> nibsa1242b: It's not really.
[00:18] <Flare183> Wheeler: See?
[00:18] <jroes> I don't think it's that the repos are down moreso than that people are rampaging them
[00:18] <maco> sean_: youre done
[00:18] <Saladin> No, tanath, I reverted back to FF2
[00:18] <Flannel> sean_: yeah, just regular daily updates
[00:18] <Fishscene> linkmaster03, probably in a day or 2 when things settle down
[00:18] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Probably in a few days. In the meanwhile, I suggest downloading via BitTorrent. There are thousands of seeds, it's super fast!
[00:18] <ubuntuROX> cygoku why do you need to download it? if you were running RC and its updated, all you have to do is update your grub.
[00:18] <cwillu> nibsa1242b, network will update all the packages you have (aka, won't break things that depend on older versions)
[00:19] <sean_> maco, Flannel: Thanks. I wished it'd be more exciting but that works. :-)
[00:19] <x1250> linkmaster03: just use some mirror repos
[00:19] <Ian1> Anyone interested in helping me set up grub?
[00:19] <Dason> UNIX
[00:19] <Dason> sean yea I know. I'll eventually be with UBUNTU fully because Linux is what IT companies want to see expertise in
[00:19] <linkmaster03> Ryan, i'm just trying to get some synaptic packages =S
[00:19] <DBautell> mad_max02, you might split that one down the middle, and have two distros installed... Sort of what I'm doing, so I can try different things out
[00:19] <Saladin> But, now I have done that, because of no extensions working, all of them fail on FF2 now as well. I used apt-get to install 2.
[00:19] <ubuntuROX> really? linux is hot right now eh?
[00:19] <Dason> no waii man
[00:19] <tanath> Ian1, it should take care of itself..
[00:19] <nibsa1242b> cwillu: ok, so if I have lots of extra packages installed I should wait until the repos are back up and then upgrade?
[00:19] <Ertyle> !offtopic
[00:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:19] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Yup, it'll be awhile until the repos aren't super-swamped.
[00:19] <gnuskoo1> Ian1: whats the prob
[00:19] <ubuntuROX> did you restart the pc Saladin ?
[00:19] <mad_max02> DBautell, I'm ok with ubuntu. I just need hdd space. I got over 2TB and its never enough.
[00:19] <cwillu> nibsa1242b, probably your best bet, yes
[00:19] <linkmaster03> jesus :(
[00:19] <sean_> I've been running Ubuntu exclusively for ~6 months today. :-)
[00:19] <dredhammer> hello i was using the beta version of hardy the last bit of upgrades to LTS came through and now i don't have nor can i enable the restricted nvidia drivers
[00:19] <maco> ubuntuROX: heck yeah!
[00:20] <DBautell> :D
[00:20] <tanath> nibsa1242b,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:20] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: You shouldn't rely on public repos if you need 100% uptime - you should set up your own mirror at some point.
[00:20] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[00:20] <Dason> way to go sean
[00:20] <kasper> hey.. anyone care to help with some nvidia problems on hardy? - ive installed driver and it worked just afterwards. Its not working after a reboot.
[00:20] <maco> ubuntuROX: best-paying sysadmin jobs are *always* for *nix and never for window
[00:20] <spork969> maco, whats the difference between nvu and kompozer?
[00:20] <Saladin> After the upgrade, or after installing FF2? Upgrade = yes. FF2 = no, ubuntuROX
[00:20] <sp219-away> Does anyone know why clipboard charing from windows to ubuntu does not work properly?
[00:20] <nibsa1242b> tanath: I've done that quite a few times, it gets stuck somewhere around 175/187
[00:20] <eduardo> how do i upgrade ubuntu from terminal?
[00:20] <MachinTrucChose> can someone tell me how to add a context menu (right-click menu) option in Nautilus so I can "open as root" or "run as root" ?
[00:20] <maco> spork969: one's the first word of the name and the other's the second?
[00:20] <Dason> has anyone tried Ubuntu Studio? is it any good yet?
[00:20] <ubuntuROX> it might be worth a try, mine just worked
[00:20] <RyanPrior> linkmaster03: Technically the servers aren't down right now - it's just that they're serving tens of thousands of requests.
[00:20] <jrabbit> Donno its huuuuge dashua`_
[00:20] <jrabbit> ** Dason
[00:20] <linkmaster03> ok
[00:20] <Saladin> And I have been using Ubuntu for six months as well
[00:20] <spork969> maco, looks to me theyre two programs
[00:21] <Ian1> gnuskoo1: Well I tried (and failed I suppose) to add an XP line to my list file for grub, and when I tried to boot to it, XP's loader seems to have supplanted grub so now it just goes to that failed boot when i start my computer
[00:21] <dubby> hey anyone, I need a very stable java jre and anycase i installed sun-java6 and I need the firefox plugin
[00:21] <tanath> Saladin, nightly tester tools alters the extensions compatibility. ff2 thinks they don't work anymore. you'll prolly have to reinstall them if you want to go back..
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> I have been using it for almost a year now
[00:21] <maco> spork969: its called Nvu Kompozer
[00:21] <sp219-away> Does anyone know why clipboard charing from windows to ubuntu does not work properly?
[00:21] <Fishscene> The servers are undergoing the equivelant of DDoS attack- except it's ALL legitimate traffic. :)
[00:21] <tanath> Saladin, you shouldn't lose settings though\
[00:21] <Flannel> MachinTrucChose: install the nautilus-gksu package
[00:21] <spork969> maco, k
[00:21] <gnuskoo1> MachinTrucChose: google nautilus scripts
[00:21] <tanath> nibsa1242b, weird. WFM
[00:21] <Ian1> i know how to reinstall grub in the terminal, but i'm not sure how to tell which drive to install it to
[00:21] <MachinTrucChose> thanks flan
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> ahh,, see theres your problem
[00:21] <eduardo> Question: How do i upgrade ubuntu from the terminal?
[00:21] <cwillu> sp219-away, please give it more than 30 seconds between repeats
[00:21] <Saladin> Although... It only took me three days to know I wasn't going back to Windows
[00:21] <maco> spork969: kompozer is the latest release of nvu
[00:21] <Dason> apt-get upgrade (sud)
[00:21] <tanath> nibsa1242b, you tried letting it go for a few mins?
[00:21] <Dason> sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:21] <ubuntuROX> at least I bet its your problem,, uninstall that nightly tools extention
[00:21] <RyanPrior> Eduardo, I don't suggest doing it today.
[00:21] <ubutom> Hi guys, I have a problem with my xserver, or with the "unbreakable" xserver, I think, can someone help me?
[00:22] <Saladin> tanath, however... Nightly isn't showing up on the extensions list.
[00:22] <RyanPrior> eduardo: The servers are totally swamped.
[00:22] <spork969> maco, gotcha
[00:22] <eduardo> RyanPrior: why is that?
[00:22] <maco> !ask | ubutom
[00:22] <ubotu> ubutom: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:22] <cygoku> I thought the repos would be mirrored or something.
[00:22] <eduardo> RyanPrior: ohhh
[00:22] <ubuntuROX> go to FF3 it should be there
[00:22] <maco> eduardo: /me points at calendar
[00:22] <nibsa1242b> tanath: it just worked... doesn't seem to be a good server though... yeah earlier I let it go for about 10min the window just went blank
[00:22] <tanath> Saladin, huh... well i've never downgraded like that, so...
[00:22] <RyanPrior> cygoku: The repos are mirrored, all over the world. They are all swamped.
[00:22] <ubuntuROX> then un-install it
[00:22] <SeaPhor> Has anyone discovered if RTL8185 wlan chipset works in 8.04? please?
[00:22] <cygoku> wow
[00:22] <Dason> System > Admin > Softy Sources choose best
[00:22] <ibleed> i only have swap / and /home partitions.  what other possible partitions might i want and what might their sizes be ?
[00:22] <maco> cygoku: they are. there are hundreds of mirrors.  theyre pretty much all swamped.
[00:22] <tanath> nibsa1242b, hrm, i guess they're getting hammered worse than i thought
[00:22] <Flannel> eduardo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades has instructions
[00:22] <alienbrain> I just tried Hardy Heron Installation LiveCD feature, my network is not working. I don't see my module. Should I hope for better after installation or this aspect won't change?
[00:22] <cygoku> That's crazy you know.
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: wired or wireless?
[00:23] <ere4si> ibleed: a partition for / is handy
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, wireless
[00:23] <sean_> I had compiz working fine in beta, but now I upgraded and whenever I go to "normal" or "extra" I lose all window decorations. Any ideas?
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: do you have any wired connection available?
[00:23] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Millions of Ubuntu users try to upgrade all at once; thus, we have craziness aplenty. :-)
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, ipw3945 module
[00:23] <Ertyle> alienbrain: if it doesn't work on the live CD, then it doesn't work in the installation. out of the box, that is - it's entirely possible that you *can* get it to work!
[00:23] <alienbrain> maco, yep sure
[00:23] <ibleed> ere4si, yes i have swap, /, and /home.  i'm wondering what others are useful
[00:23] <x1250> alienbrain: it will probably won't work
[00:23] <cygoku> " millions " ????
[00:23] <cwillu> alienbrain, what chipset?
[00:23] <Dason> Now to get copywritten DVD's to work right.....
[00:23] <ubutom> Well, maco, everytime I start up ubuntu now it doesnt work, the xserver simply doesnt come up. i tried dpgk-reconfigure, I erased and replaced the xorg.conf, but no joy...
[00:23] <alienbrain> Ertyle, I see, it was working on Gutsy though, out of the box
[00:23] <maco> alienbrain: oh you have a 3945? the module is now called iwl3945. it works great for me
[00:23] <MachinTrucChose> first thing to do in every ubuntu install: disable the *!!@#$ motherboard beep
[00:23] <ere4si> ibleed: that is all really - unless it is a server
[00:23] <nibsa1242b> ibleed: /var ~4GB (or less) good for log files... you don't want to have some faulty device fill up your log files and make your system unbootable... and /boot ~500MB (should hopefully be enough)
[00:23] <x1250> alienbrain: but that doesn't mean you can't make it work...
[00:23] <sandfisch> is it possible to update the beta to full?
[00:24] <alienbrain> cwillu, Intel Pro Wireless 3945ABG
[00:24] <tanath> sean_, try running 'compiz --replace' from a terminal, and see the output
[00:24] <Flannel> sandfisch: yes, just regular daily updates
[00:24] <Dason> Machin! Tell me now! I hate it!
[00:24] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Yup, supposedly Ubuntu has about 10 million users, so if more than 10% try to upgrade, that's millions.
[00:24] <Ertyle> alienbrain: then file a bug
[00:24] <sean_> sandfisch: Just do regular updates and you're all set!
[00:24] <Baughn> MachinTrucChose: I've found that an axe does that very well
[00:24] <nibsa1242b> tanath: I think I'll just wait a few days to upgrade... no rush
[00:24] <MachinTrucChose> dason: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_disable_the_pc_speaker_(beep!)
[00:24] <the_darkside_986> Everything operation in hardy is laggy and slow, and the CPU fan keeps spinning. What do I type to fix this?
[00:24] <tanath> sean_, er, make that 'compiz --replace &'
[00:24] <ibleed> nibsa1242b, what about /opt ?  is that useful ?
[00:24] <Mimi> alienbrain:  you have a problem w/ 3945? It's been fixed...
[00:24] <Ertyle> sandfisch: just let it run its normal updates, and you'll have final
[00:24] <cygoku> Well I am impressed.
[00:24] <gaucho> My audio isn't working.. It was perfectly working about 5 minutes ago on gutsy. I have an Asus p5b motherboard. What can I do?
[00:24]  * x1250 wants #ubuntu+1 back
[00:24] <tanath> nibsa1242b, thought you said it just worked?
[00:24] <alienbrain> x1250, I understand, but I'm trying to assess how much time I need to spend after upgrading :)
[00:24] <maco> RyanPrior: you only hit multiple millions when 20% try to upgrade
[00:24] <ubutom> atm i can only access the root repair console
[00:24] <tanath> nibsa1242b, meh
[00:25] <x1250> alienbrain: did it work on gutsy?
[00:25] <phiqtion> how can i install XMMS in HARDY? thx
[00:25] <cwillu> maco, as if 50% of the installed base isn't trying to upgrade though :p
[00:25] <RyanPrior> maco: I call 1.1 more than one million, thus millions. One and one tenth millions.
[00:25] <maco> crimsun: ping
[00:25] <ubutom> every attempt to start gdm fails, failsafe graphics seems to be broken
[00:25] <maco> cwillu: yeah...
[00:25] <sean_> tanath: I think I need to re-enable nvidia drivers, does that make sense?
[00:25] <alienbrain> Mimi, in Gutsy, I would see that ipw3945 module is automatically loaded. Now in Hardy, I don't see it. Even when I try to modprobe. It's not there
[00:25] <nibsa1242b> ibleed: I don't know, never needed an /opt before but I'm just running it on a few computers for personal use
[00:25] <cygoku> Danson ??
[00:25] <DBautell> even ,75 is a multiple
[00:25] <ubutom> so, what should I do? Does someone have an idea?
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: its not called that
[00:25] <tanath> sean_, ah. in that case displayconfig-gtk may help
[00:25] <yeknom_traf> which version of ubuntu would i want to install on an iMac with duocore processor?
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: its called iwl3945
[00:25] <cygoku> I mean Dason ??
[00:25] <maco> alienbrain: theres a new driver
[00:25] <alienbrain> maco, aha, let me check please
[00:25] <Baughn> sean_: You need to reinstall the nvidia drivers every time you upgrade your kernel. Which a distribution upgrade does. Granted, it might be automatic normally, but apparently not now..
[00:25] <Joelito> Hi, I can't use livCD of ubuntu 8.04
[00:25] <phiqtion> how can i enable UNIVERSE and MULTIVERSE in HARDY?
[00:25] <nibsa1242b> alienbrain: check restricted drivers manager to see if you have to enable it in there
[00:25] <Saladin> Now, when I click on the launcher for FF3, it is FF2 that pops up. I am totally confused.
[00:26] <Joelito> and the md5sum is correct
[00:26] <x1250> alienbrain: you can always uninstall kernel metapackages (linux-image, linux-image-generic, linux-headers-generic, etc) and use them in hardy
[00:26] <Mimi> alienbrain:  (sorry if you've already said that, but I just joined the channel) .. and this is the realease, not the release candidate or beta? I have the same card as yours, and I installed hardy from livecd.. wireless worked there, and after install it worked too :/ sorry not sure how to help, thought it was fixed for all of us
[00:26] <tanath> phiqtion, System > Admin > Software Sources
[00:26] <sean_> Baughn: Jest because it's newly released?
[00:26] <fdsjkalf> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[00:26] <RyanPrior> yeknom_traf: Ubuntu 8.04 "Hardy Heron" is the hot item now. It's available via BitTorrent, but today is release day so non-BitTorrent servers are very slow and swamped.
[00:26] <maco> Joelito: do a cd check and be more specific, please
[00:26] <Jorophose> Hi, important advisor, I'm an idiot who tries too hard. If I upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04: How long will it take me to do that (do I have to download a full 700MB?), is there any chance of it bjorking my system? and can I do it at any time or only today before there's newer nightly builds?
[00:26] <jjt001> where is cgi-bin located in ubuntu?
[00:26] <Mimi> ﻿/me asks :  is it possible to increase the DPI on gnome? ... I have 1200x800 but it seems like a simple window takes most of the screen :P
[00:26] <alienbrain> maco, I can see the driver is there
[00:26] <Mike_T> nv
[00:26] <maco> fdsjkalf: its a release day. how could it possibly stay up?
[00:26] <x1250> alienbrain: I meant: uninstall kernel metapackages, and upgrade to hardy. Then, as metapackages are not installed, then your kernel version will be preserved.
[00:27] <nibsa1242b> sean_: Baughn I think sometimes the necessary drivers take a few days after the dist upgrade to become available for the kernel version
[00:27] <Baughn> sean_: I don't actually know if it normally does, but if it does, then the reason it doesn't /now/ would be because it's a separate upgrade system that doesn't know about that detail
[00:27] <alienbrain> Mimi, sure, that gives me higher hopes! :)
[00:27] <phiqtion> tanath: they are selected already but i can't find XMMS in the sources?
[00:27] <sean_> tanath, oh, nevermind. I forgot that was on my laptop! It uses intel drivers which is correct. Do I need to install xgl?
[00:27] <jjt001> maco: is cgi-bin located in var/www?
[00:27] <ubutom> xserver dead, failsafe doesnt work, dpkg-reconfigure no joy, erasing xor.conf and replacing with old version no joy, any ideas?
[00:27] <cwillu> Mimi, prefrerences | appearance| fonts
[00:27] <RyanPrior> Mimi: System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[00:27] <nous> how do I start the graphic card config wizard ?
[00:27] <Baughn> nibsa1242b: That's why there's a compile-from-source option
[00:27] <maco> jjt001: *shrug* i never figured out how to make apache go on my laptop
[00:27] <nibsa1242b> Baughn: mmm fun
[00:27] <Joelito> maco: Hi, When I put the CD in the cd-rom, the cd-rom stops reading during the ubuntu banner with progressbar, but only the cd-rom light keeps on.
[00:27] <fdsjkalf> maco, you assume i know its release day. anywho, cool. new releases are great
[00:27] <alienbrain> x1250, I see, but I can only install from the CD at the moment, not very good bandwidth :)
[00:27] <Baughn> nibsa1242b: "Trivial", you mean. Normally it takes no effort at all.
[00:27] <sandfisch> is it possible to update the beta to full?
[00:27] <maco> Joelito: does it get to the menu part?
[00:27] <tanath> phiqtion, odd. they're in mine. you might try xmms2 though.
[00:27] <alienbrain> So guys, thank you a lot. I will give it a chance! :)
[00:27] <cwillu> alienbrain, then wait for a day or two :p
[00:27] <sean_> sandfisch: Just do regular updates and you're all set!
[00:28] <jjt001> maco: i'm trying to install dansguardian, and i need the cgi-bin directory?
[00:28] <tanath> sean_, no, shouldn't need xgl. i don't anyway
[00:28] <Joelito> maco: yes
[00:28] <RyanPrior> sandfisch: It is certainly possible. Regular updates will do the trick 100%.
[00:28] <Joelito> maco: I choose language and keyboard language
[00:28] <alienbrain> cwillu, nah, I will just go ahead now, can't wait :D
[00:28] <nibsa1242b> sandfisch: in the past the beta/ RCs updated automatically with the regular updates
[00:28] <maco> fdsjkalf: see the topic? and the front page of ubuntu.com (if it's up?)? and the announcement on the forum? and the mailing lists? and every ubuntu blog on the planet?
[00:28] <Dason> joelito i had that same problem
[00:28] <tanath> nous, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[00:28] <bingofuel> can anyone can help me installing ubuntu with a sata disc_
[00:28] <x1250> alienbrain: I think you can upgrade using just the cd... do you have gutsy installed?
[00:28] <Dason> burn another disk at a slower speed
[00:28] <sandfisch> thanks all
[00:28] <alienbrain> x1250, yep
[00:28] <Joelito> Dason: How do you fixed it?
[00:28] <Mimi> cwillu:  Oh, I missed the "Details" button, thanks! ... Mmm.. it shows me changes on demand... yay!
[00:28] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: what is your problem?
[00:28] <phiqtion> tanath: servers are being hammered right?
[00:28] <alienbrain> maco, any idea how can I precisely tell what the problem is coming from?
[00:28] <maco> jjt001: oh.  i dont know.  itd involve apache webserver...id say ask the ubuntu christian edition people. they install it by default
[00:28] <sean_> tanath: I have a thinkpad T61 with integrated graphics. the i810 driver wasn't any better
[00:29] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, can anyone see me talking?
[00:29] <Dason> joelito -burn another disk at slower speed
[00:29] <metanil> hello
[00:29] <maco> Joelito: do a cd test
[00:29] <cwillu> x1250, alienbrain, you can update from cd, but any packages that are missing won't be updated, and may break in spectacular explosions with shock wave effect
[00:29] <Starnestommy> IntangibleLiquid: possibly
[00:29] <Ertyle> IntangibleLiquid: yes
[00:29] <fdsjkalf> maco, whether or not your assumption seems reasonable, it wasnt accurate
[00:29] <plik> IntangibleLiquid: no  ;)
[00:29] <maco> alienbrain: sudo iwlist scan
[00:29] <metanil> which is the default Them in Ubuntu 8.04???
[00:29] <maco> alienbrain: anything listed?
[00:29] <jforman> i just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 on my i386 desktop, and now when i try to move a window by alt+drag, ubuntu thinks i want to resize the window. any ideas whats causing this?
[00:29] <metanil> which is the default Theme in Ubuntu 8.04???
[00:29] <tanath> phiqtion, yes...
[00:29] <Sivik> has anyone gotten the 3d drivers to work for the ati hd 2600 for ubuntu?
[00:29] <tanath> phiqtion, but you can use a mirror
[00:29] <x1250> cwillu: hah, it might, but not the base system
[00:29] <Joelito> maco: ok
[00:29] <phiqtion> tanath: which one
[00:29] <Joelito> Dason Slower speed?
[00:29] <maco> jforman: check keybindings in compiz?
[00:29] <Dason> ewww ati Nvidia works better but I bet someone has
[00:29] <eternalis1> okay i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i iddnt have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:29] <bingofuel> nibsa124b.  i-ve installed ubuntu but when start to boot grub tell me the 21 error :S
[00:29] <SeaPhor> Has anyone tested or tried the RTL8185 wlan chipset to work in 8.04?
[00:29] <eternalis1> is there a command i can enter?
[00:30] <maco> jforman: resize might be mapped to alt
[00:30] <alienbrain> cwillu, lol
[00:30] <JPSmon> how can I loop my terminal to constantly output iwconfig ?
[00:30] <tanath> phiqtion, ,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:30] <maco> metanil: human-clearlooks, i think. i prefer human-murrine
[00:30] <IntangibleLiquid> thanks god! Partition editor says my harddisk space is unallocated :( What am I supposed to do? I'm doing booting XP and PCLinuxOS and want to swicth to Ubuntu :(
[00:30] <Dason> joelito: when you burn the disk, pick instead of maximum, 18.2 or something for write speed
[00:30] <jforman> maco: happen to know which setting thats under? i definitely remember not having this key combo set in 7.10
[00:30] <phiqtion> tanath: thank you
[00:30] <panda314> how to install 8.04 from darddisk?
[00:30] <tanath> np
[00:30] <alienbrain> maco, I got: wlan0: Failed to read scand data : Resource temporarily unavailable.
[00:30] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i iddnt have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:30] <Dason> (18.2x)
[00:30] <Sivik> ati HD 2600 + ubuntu?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > panda314
[00:30] <fyreofchaos13> My Update Manager stops responding when I attempt to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, any idea what I could do?
[00:30] <Sivik> !ati
[00:30] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:30] <panda314> ?
[00:30] <maco> alienbrain: oh.  well um thatd be the problem. O_O
[00:31] <Dason> Solved my problem in about 5 minutes
[00:31] <Joelito> Dason: Ok, lucky I have a few cd-r to spare :p
[00:31] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b  i-ve installed ubuntu but when start to boot. grub tell me the 21 error :S
[00:31] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: fresh install? upgrade? is it on its own HD/ sharing the HD with another operating syste,?
[00:31] <ZarathustraDK> Are the repositories bogged down or something? It takes like 3 minutes wait before I connect when applying changes in synaptic
[00:31] <Dason> Good
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fyreofchaos13, servers are overwhelmed.. try again later
[00:31] <Sivik> ZarathustraDK: yes
[00:31] <Starnestommy> ZarathustraDK: yes
[00:31] <maco> ZarathustraDK: release day. yes. very very nearly dead
[00:31] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:31] <tanath> fyreofchaos13, at what point?
[00:31] <Fishscene> ZarathustraDK, please see the channel topic
[00:31] <Baughn> ZarathustraDK: Mm. Yes. There are about a million people trying the same.
[00:31] <plik> eternalis1: tried: sudo aptitude dist-upgrade  ?
[00:31] <Baughn> ZarathustraDK: Literally, so..
[00:31] <JPSmon> how can I loop my terminal to constantly output iwconfig ?
[00:31] <alienbrain> maco, literally? so maybe I could try to restart?
[00:31] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b fresh install, and it-s windows over sda1, the first partition
[00:31] <ZarathustraDK> haha, and here I thought it was hardy's fault :)
[00:31] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: how often do you want it to repeat?
[00:31] <Dason> Zara - System - Admin - Software sources > select best server
[00:31] <fyreofchaos13> Hrm, alright, Jack.
[00:31] <maco> alienbrain: thats a freaky error.  google it?
[00:31] <tanath> fyreofchaos13, the servers are being hammered. you might try a mirror...
[00:31] <eternalis1> plik: didnt work
[00:31] <cwillu> ZarathustraDK, well, it is, in a sense
[00:32] <alienbrain> maco, sudo lshw is taking forever to come up with anything.
[00:32] <alienbrain> maco, ah, good idea :P
[00:32] <anonusr> if I update to 8.04 using the alternate cd, and my system can't access the servers because they are overloaded, does that mean that all my packages that were in universe or multiverse will stop working until the server becomes available again?
[00:32]  * plik shrugs
[00:32] <Joelito> brb, going to work with it
[00:32] <tanath> fyreofchaos13,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:32] <Joelito> thanks
[00:32] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: as often as possible without bogging my system up
[00:32] <cwillu> anonusr, they won't update, so they may or may not work
[00:32] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:32] <maco> anonusr: ones that dont need to update will be fine...others will probably still work and lack new features
[00:32] <sean_> Ubuntu should work on automatic update file sharing or something. Like automatic torrents or something
[00:32] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: say 10 times a second
[00:32] <nomopofomo> How can I delete saved passwords that keyring saves?
[00:32] <simonft2> I know that it is a really newb question, but where is the equivilant of program files on ubuntu?
[00:32] <maco> sean_: thatd be nice
[00:32] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i didn't have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:32] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: while true; do iwconfig; done
[00:32] <Baughn> sean_: No real need, for something that happens twice a year
[00:33] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone helps me with partitioning?
[00:33] <cwillu> sean_, apt-torrent is in the universe, I think they're working on integrating it
[00:33] <tanath> sean_, security is an issue though
[00:33] <x1250> simonft2: nope.
[00:33]  * hmuller thanks the nameless linux-image dev that included the full suite of busybox tools in the initramfs
[00:33] <simonft2> ??
[00:33] <goat|work> hmm,  I wonder why the hardy update manager will not check the CD before requesting files from the repos... I have the CD option set in the software sources, and inserted...  anyone know if this is a known issue?
[00:33] <anonusr> thanks cwillu, maco
[00:33] <Starnestommy> simonft2: /usr
[00:33] <joh6nn> simonft2: what are you trying to do?
[00:33] <maco> nomopofomo: apps -> accs -> pass and encrypt keys
[00:33] <JPSmon> simonft2: lib
[00:33] <sean_> simonft2: Preferences > Main Menu then add Control Panel and use that
[00:33] <simonft2> lol
[00:33] <Baughn> tanath: Why? They're hashed, and presumably the actual torrents would be stored centrally
[00:33] <simonft2> 3 different answers
[00:33] <maco> goat|work: disable the internet repos
[00:33] <simonft2> im tring to make a program come up on start up
[00:33] <cwillu> tanath, security, not so much, more that bit-torrent doesn't have a good way to update parts of torrents
[00:33] <goat|work> maco, in gutsy's software sources?
[00:33] <Roxer> i have to say i freaking love Ubuntu, im totaly new to ubuntu. Tho i have used gentoo for 8 years
[00:33] <sean_> True on all accounts. It'd be a great feature if they figured out how to do it securely.
[00:34] <RyanPrior> simonft2: Use the sessions, probably.
[00:34] <yeknom_traf> if i dl ubuntu 8.04 for my iMac with a duocore processor, should i click on the x86 architecture or the 64bit?
[00:34] <maco> goat|work: yeah
[00:34] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:34] <simonft2> I know
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup > simplexio
[00:34] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: can you get into windows at all or is your computer in a basically useless state?
[00:34]  * [T]-Rex loves ubuntu
[00:34] <goat|work> maco, i'll try that
[00:34] <simonft2> but I have to find the command
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup > simonft2
[00:34] <eternalis1> i tried upgrading to 8.04 and then it told me i didn't have enough space, now i do but i cant seem to get the upgrade to appear again
[00:34] <bingofuel> are in useless satte
[00:34] <Roxer> But it was really neat to install (only prob was errno 5 no probs tho)
[00:34] <Dason> Users who wish to download Ubuntu 8.04! go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:34] <bingofuel> the menu of grub doesn-t appear
[00:34] <grindhold> simonft2 forget that on linux ;) you think it's similar to windows
[00:34] <talntidwrk> is archive.ubuntu.com dead? :(
[00:34] <cwillu> eternalis1, please wait more than 30 seconds between attempts
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: sudo update-manager -c
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: i mean
[00:34] <Starnestommy> talntidwrk: it's very overloaded
[00:34] <nomopofomo> maco, thank you!
[00:34] <Ertyle> talntidwrk: type /topic
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: gksu "update-manager c"
[00:34] <Baughn> tanath: Nah. There's just a queue. Of a hundred thousand computers.
[00:34] <simonft2> lol
[00:34] <nickrober> I just upgraded to 8.04 from 7.10 using the Update Manager. Now all sounds are scratchy and distorted. Is it something to do with the new Pulse Audio?
[00:34] <simonft2> ok
[00:34] <Cpudan80> Where is the screens and gfx thing in Hardy ?
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: still cant type
[00:34] <cwillu> !motd
[00:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:34] <hmuller> Roxer: There are a few ex-gentoo users about
[00:34] <Sivik> Someone needs to put that all repositores are slow
[00:34] <RyanPrior> talntidwrk: Today is release day, so the servers and mirrors are super swamped.
[00:34] <Baughn> * talntidwrk
[00:34] <Dason> go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:34] <maco> eternalis1: put a - before the c in the one with quotes
[00:34] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:35] <Roxer> Anyone have some cool way to play .img movies?
[00:35] <tanath> cwillu, yeah, that too. would need a modification of BT
[00:35] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[00:35] <alienbrain> maco, I'm getting other freaky stuff in dmesg :). iwl3945: Microcode SW error detected. Resarting 0x82000008. And Another line.
[00:35] <talntidwrk> I knew today was release day, didn't know it was hosted on archive.*
[00:35] <RyanPrior> Sivik: It's in the channel topic!
[00:35] <alienbrain> Googling :)
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: hiding
[00:35] <plik> Sivik: it's in the topic
[00:35] <grindhold> simonft2 you can actually realize autostart programs on linux, but thats not as easy as in windows.. you have to scriüt
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: and totally useless anyway
[00:35] <grindhold> *script
[00:35] <Sivik> oh, so people just do not read
[00:35] <sarkie> Is there a way to upgrade 7.10 -> 8.04 using the CD?
[00:35] <maco> Cpudan80: screen resolution is in preferences
[00:35] <nomopofomo> maco, how would I change "allow always" to something else?
[00:35] <talntidwrk> /topic
[00:35] <Dason> I didn't even realize it was release day
[00:35] <cwillu> tanath, look at debtorrent
[00:35] <plik> same old story
[00:35] <DBautell> sarkie, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[00:35] <RyanPrior> Sivik: Of course not. That's why we're here. :-)
[00:35] <MachinTrucChose> hey guys, I installed nautilus-gksu but I still don't have the option to "open as <user>" in the nautilus context menu
[00:35] <Sivik> RyanPrior: do you know anything about the hd 2600 ati drives for ubuntu?
[00:36] <sarkie> DBautell, Damn it, just downloaded the normal release!! :) meh
[00:36] <Jack_Sparrow> sarkie, only the alternate cd
[00:36] <RyanPrior> Sivik: No clue. I use whatever drive the Driver Manager installs. :-)
[00:36] <DBautell> sarkie :D
[00:36] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b  no, i can-t use the PC, the menu of grub doesn-t appear
[00:36] <talntidwrk> damn. i'm fraid to reboot now.
[00:36] <eternal_p> MachinTrucChose: try doing a ctrl-alt-backspace to re-load gnome and try again
[00:36] <altj> Re: swamped servers; is there a way people can become a temporary mirrors to help out w/some of these high-traffic days?
[00:36] <fyreofchaos13> Yay, the server worked. Thank you! :D
[00:36] <sarkie> ah well, are the servers still overloaded?
[00:36] <maco> nomopofomo: choose "allow once"?
[00:36] <MachinTrucChose> eternal: I logged out then logged back on
[00:36] <tanath> cwillu, cool...
[00:36] <Sivik> RyanPrior: its so much easier just to use nvidia because of their support
[00:36] <simonft2> how would I make pidgin come up on startup?
[00:36] <JPSmon> Starnestommy: can I have it "press enter" a few time to get it to say in one spot?
[00:36] <jrabbit> sarkie: do bears shit in the forest?
[00:36] <goat|work> sarkie: for me yes
[00:36] <Sivik> sarkie: yes, its realese date
[00:36] <RyanPrior> altj: Yup, BitTorrent!
[00:36] <Abd> lol not even 1kb transfer speed
[00:36] <Dason> go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:37] <Sivik> Abd: Release date, all repos are slow
[00:37] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: try sudo xsane
[00:37] <Fishscene> abd, on bittorrent?
[00:37] <Starnestommy> JPSmon: while read; do iwconfig; donw
[00:37] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: ok, obviously something went wrong with the installer configuring grub... it happens and is highly annoying. I can help you get XP back to a bootable state, however, I'm not enough of a grub wizard to guide you how to fix the problem and allow you to boot into XP or Ubuntu.
[00:37] <RyanPrior> altj: If Ubuntu switched to using Apt-Torrent by default I think things would be much better, but that's a different argument. :-)
[00:37] <Starnestommy> *done
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> simonft2, Did you see the link ubotu provided about startup
[00:37] <metanil> my touchpad is not working properly ( it clicks even if i am just moving around cursor) ... ubuntu 8.04 laptop -> VAIO.
[00:37] <sarkie> Indeed, I'll just download the alternate CD and do it tomorrow off line ! ah well
[00:37] <simonft2> yes
[00:37] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: that does the same thing
[00:37] <tanath> eternal_p, jeeze, is no one careful with that? better to suggest a logout. if you do that with unsaved work, it's just gone :-/
[00:37] <simonft2> oh
[00:37] <maco> nomopofomo: theres a keyring preferences thing in sys->pref too
[00:37] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: k, hold on
[00:37] <simonft2> lol did't read far enough
[00:37] <simonft2> sorry
[00:37] <Dason> metam give them a week for the IRC to calm down a little (if at all)
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:37] <eternal_p> tanath: true :)
[00:38] <phiqtion> tanath: i just installed XMMS2 on hardy but it doesn't show up in the MENU.
[00:38] <biabia> my tomboy notes wont open. i did a find / -iname tomboy and searched through the folders for any files that looked like they could be the ones i need but i couldnt find them
[00:38] <alienbrain> maco, Most probably: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=461924
[00:38] <tanath> phiqtion, well, alt+f2 & run it
[00:38] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b i was thinking if i can-t install correctly grub, i going to reinstall windows xp, to recover one OS at lesat
[00:38] <maco> biabia: they shouldbe in .tomboy
[00:38] <grindhold> pulse audio sucks.. even rhythmbox doesn't work . anyone who fixed the problem?
[00:38] <Dason> Quick question, do we need to reinstall WINE when we reboot?
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, is xmm2 from our repos?
[00:38] <jords> omg is it just me or is archive.ubuntu.com completely hamered?
[00:38] <tanath> phiqtion, menu editor should see it, and let you put it there
[00:38] <jroes> does anyone know where I can find download statistics?
[00:38] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: try "mv ~/.sane ~/.sane-old", and then running xsane ?
[00:38] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: I can attempt to play grub wizard if you'd like... I just can't guarantee I can fix it.
[00:38] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: yeap
[00:38] <Dason> jords: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:38] <jroes> like how many people downloaded ubuntu 7.10, 6.10, etc.
[00:39] <Cpudan80> jords: yes
[00:39] <plik> jords: everythings hammered
[00:39] <Cpudan80> jords: its tanked
[00:39] <biabia> maco thanks I'll look there. that one didnt come up in my search
[00:39] <tanath> jords,  go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[00:39] <jords> Dason: How do you do that on ubuntu server?
[00:39] <stoked> how do I change the pagesize to use larger than 4k block sizes in XFS?
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, cool, I didnt know it was there.. try running from cli and make sure it comes up
[00:39] <tanath> heh
[00:39] <jords> My desktops been on 8.04 for ages
[00:39] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: same thing
[00:39] <Dason> Oooh I only know Desktop
[00:39] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: you don't have to reinstall XP; all you need is a win XP install disk, from the recovery console you can fix the MBR and you'll be ok
[00:39] <talntidwrk> tanath, can you tell me how to do that from command line?
[00:39] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b what is grub wizard_
[00:39] <tanath> jords, it's in synaptic
[00:39] <rich_freecomm> "Fecthing file 1 of 1292" :D
[00:39] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: how do i run CLI
[00:39] <maco> alienbrain: i give up. my laptop is magic.
[00:39] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: someone who knows lots about grub
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> phiqtion, cli means a terminal
[00:39] <talntidwrk> I kinda killed my window manager and uninstalled it, thinking i could get another one from apt... :P
[00:40] <|stefan|> just upgraded to hardy. and all of a sudden when i log in with ssh i get posix instead of utf-8
[00:40] <Dason> Nice
[00:40] <tanath> talntidwrk, uh, there's an apt command for it, but i forget what it is... hold on
[00:40] <alienbrain> maco, thanks for the heads up :)
[00:40] <|stefan|> anyone can explain this ?
[00:40] <biabia> xfce is my favorite window manager
[00:40] <phiqtion> Jack_Sparrow: i typed xmms2 and just some commands popped up
[00:40] <OzFalcon> Will the new hardy install let me resize my fedora partition for dual boot?
[00:40] <Dason> Is a reinstallation of WINE required after upgrade?
[00:40] <talntidwrk> Dason, not if you don't want to run Windows apps ;)
[00:40] <Dason> Lol
[00:40] <rich_freecomm> "About 22 hours 33 minutes remaining" awesome
[00:41] <talntidwrk> but, i don't know ;)
[00:41] <Dason> It's more for the unpacking of them
[00:41] <x1250> Dason: it shouldn't be necessary
[00:41] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: same thing
[00:41] <DEstlund> I'm having trouble installing Heron - had the same problem with the betas: it complains that every file does not match the one on the disk. My cd burner works fine with everything else, so do my hard drives. Anybody seen this?
[00:41] <Dason> For use in Windows
[00:41] <burner> OzFalcon: i assume it depends on the fedora partition type
[00:41] <x1250> doesn't work for you Dason?
[00:41] <jPratt> lol Well you knoe most things that are made are for Windows and well i like my Photoshop :P
[00:41] <Datalanche> Hi. I just tried to do a fresh install of Hardy on my computer. I have two drives and two optical drives on my motherboards IDE controller, and three more hard drives on my Silicon Image-based PCI-IDE card. It is detecting the Sil-card's drive first(hda, hdb, and hdc). After the install, all I get is a screen full of "﻿GRUB ﻿GRUB ﻿GRUB ﻿GRUB ﻿GRUB ﻿GRUB ..." What can I do to fix this?
[00:41] <Dason> Crystal xp
[00:41] <bingofuel> je i was playing like a grub wizard but my magic is bad :p,
[00:41] <bingofuel> tell me your idea...if doesn-t work no problem
[00:41] <OzFalcon> burner, ext3
[00:41] <Dason> killled my dlls and I lost mah windows Cd
[00:41] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: yep, looking to see what else i can turn up
[00:41] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: cool thanks
[00:42] <altj> damn, I've been seeding kubuntu images all day and just started seeding ubuntu images.  There's a bit of a difference in demand :-)
[00:42] <OzFalcon> Can hardy resize ext3 partitions?
[00:42] <maco> Datalanche: did the install complete?
[00:42] <Dason> SOOOOO... I can't install anything without opening in WINE and moving to Windows
[00:42] <Fishscene> lol altj
[00:42] <Datalanche> maco: Yes, finished fine and I clicked restart.
[00:42] <jPratt> Course we all know regular Ubuntu=Pwnage given by the Linux Gods
[00:42] <ng0n> o.. i got your notes here.. .sorry.
[00:42] <sven_oostenbrink> What exactly is the difference between 64 bits ubuntu and 32 (ignoring the obvious)? is 64 bits faster? could it cause problems with compatibility? will all (32 bits) programs work without problem on 64 bits?
[00:42] <sean_> tanath: I have integrated intel graphics and compiz isn't working. I'm using the "intel" driver. Any ideas?
[00:42] <Datalanche> maco: In Gutsy, my onboard IDE drives were hda and hdb. Now they are all sdX
[00:42] <dmg46664> I have downloaded the hardy CD for safe keeping in case of new installations, but I want to merge the packages on it with our local apt-cache, so local machines can all upgrade without all downloading 9 hours worth of packages each. Where can I find docs on how to do that?
[00:42] <FrankH> hi. what is the new package name for vim-full?
[00:42] <ryanpg> yay! Hardy Heron! Boo! my canon camera still doesn't automount - anyone have tips on getting this feature back? It was in the early betas...
[00:43] <derspankster> installed Hardy Server on a box I put together and I am totally lost
[00:43] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: you on gutsy or hardy?
[00:43] <Datalanche> whereas before just the ones on the sil card were sdX
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: thats normal.thats a libata change
[00:43] <Dason> (shell32 was moved with some UI in Windows modifications)
[00:43] <erat123> ubuntu 8.04 comes w/ a browser in beta?!!?  what's the deal???
[00:43] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: gutsy
[00:43] <tanath> sean_, did you use displayconfig-gtk to try different drivers?
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: are any of the drives reporting themselves wrong to the bios?
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd > dmg46664
[00:43] <biabia> maco yay ! the notes are there. thanks
[00:43] <maco> Datalanche: i know there are issues with sata drives that tell the bios to pretende they're IDE
[00:43] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: I tink I might have something for you to help... hold on a min
[00:43] <x1250> erat123: firefox3 should be there
[00:43] <sean_> tanath, unfortunately. :-\ I also checked my graphics card and it says intel should be the one
[00:43] <Mike_T> HowTO : Get better than 800x600 in vn 5700 using live cd - no xorg options on boot?
[00:43] <tanath> sean_, test different drivers and after each working one, run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct' to see if direct rendering is enabled
[00:43] <Datalanche> maco: Nope, I watched them all pop up, they seem to be going in just fine. Oh, and also, they are IDE drives, not SATA
[00:43] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b ok
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> maco, I am running on sata pretending to be ide here
[00:44] <tanath> sean_, i dunno. might try google & ubuntu forums
[00:44] <zado> firefox 3 beta 5 is good enough for release
[00:44] <ng0n> is the new Ver out.  I got Gusty
[00:44] <jPratt> Yes it is
[00:44] <maco> Datalanche: theyre *all* IDE? all more than 5?
[00:44] <Dason> Mike T restricted drivers in System > admin
[00:44] <sean_> tanath: is there any way to add displayconfig-gtk to my main menu? It used to be in admin
[00:44] <erat123> x﻿1250: god i hope i didnt get the wrong version...
[00:44] <eternalis1> maco i got some error
[00:44] <fdsjkalf> is it true that ff3 uses an ugly bold font for the URL
[00:44] <ng0n> hmmm. ok.
[00:44] <Datalanche> maco: Yes, I have five IDE hard drives.
[00:44] <eternalis1> maco: it says i have to check my internet connection, but im connected so wtf?
[00:44] <tom_> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:44] <jPratt> ng0n yes hardy is out
[00:44] <Dason> wow, there's the background update!
[00:44] <fdsjkalf> thats reason enough to not use it
[00:44] <rich_freecomm> Greetings Scunizi
[00:44] <erat123> so, does firefox beta come w/ hardy or the finished release?
[00:44] <maco> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is when you have lots of IDE and it gets confusing when the OS sees lots of IDE due to that bios setting
[00:44] <tanath> sean_, menu editor?
[00:44] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink: I highly recommend 32 bit. Not everything works out of the box with 64 bit that does with 32 bit. And there should be 5% or less performance difference between the two unless you are running a machine with >4GB of RAM.
[00:44] <ng0n> Hardy.  I like the sound of that.
[00:44] <maco> Datalanche: you cant do that
[00:44] <Jack_Sparrow> eternalis1, Please do not use that shorthand..
[00:44] <noodles12> firefox beta 5
[00:44] <Dason> erat, the finish for F3 isn't out yet
[00:45] <eternalis1> Jack_Sparrow: do you have a solution, or are you going to sass me?
[00:45] <maco> Datalanche: i dont know how else to explain it but...5 IDEs just cant go
[00:45] <sean_> tanath: nevermind. I'm blind. :)
[00:45] <tanath> XD
[00:45] <maco> Datalanche: its a bug
[00:45] <Datalanche> maco: Uh, yeah I can. I have two connect on the motherboard's IDE controller, and three on a PCI expansion card.
[00:45] <OzFalcon> erat123, Beta5, But you can download prev stable release if you want.
[00:45] <Datalanche> oh, really
[00:45] <ng0n> flash, sass and white trash : welcome to #ubuntu !
[00:45] <x1250> ff3 is ok, but it doesn't use pulseaudio. That feature was pushed to ibex, instead.
[00:45] <DEstlund> anybody seen persistent CRC errors on hardy install from cd?
[00:45] <goat|work> Jack_Sparrow: was banned?
[00:45] <bingofuel> nibsa1242b you-re saying that i have to install the 32 bits version_
[00:45] <erat123> that's too bad.    when i go to ubuntuguides.org, my X session logs off under firefox beta5....   i might have to downgrade firefox
[00:45] <maco> Datalanche: on ubuntu, 5 IDEs just cant go
[00:45] <Mike_T> Dason: None listed...:-(
[00:45] <goat|work> sorry, nvm
[00:45] <Datalanche> maco: It was working just fine in Gutsy
[00:45] <erat123> i sent in a bug report, but didnt hear back
[00:45] <Dason> hmm...
[00:45] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: check and see if there's an update available for libgtk2; a couple of people reported that as fixing the problem for them
[00:46] <joh6nn> does anyone know how to make screen behave more like xterm, with regards to termcap/terminfo stuff?  when i use vim inside of screen, i occasionally get some weird behaviour
[00:46] <IntangibleLiquid> fdsik -l /dev/sda says cannott open /dev/sda: what should I do?
[00:46] <maco> Datalanche: regression....its a known bug on hardy though
[00:46] <tanath> talntidwrk, found it: netselect-apt
[00:46] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: that was for someone else... there is nothing wrong with 64 bit version, however, most people I know and myself prefer the 32 bit version for ease of use
[00:46] <Dason> intang - Are you using Sudo?
[00:46] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: libgtk2 is the name on repos?
[00:46] <OzFalcon> Too much noise....
[00:46] <ng0n> 64 bit.  drivers ?
[00:46] <Datalanche> I don't understand.
[00:46] <Datalanche> it was never a problem before
[00:46] <jvai_> no straight upgrade from dapper to hardy in 09'?
[00:47] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: anyhow... http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ should help you boot
[00:47]  * DBautell has no problem with 64
[00:47] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: not sure, the posts don't say for sure
[00:47] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: you should be able to go from Dapper to Hardy
[00:47] <Dason> IntangibleLiquid are you using sudo fdisk ?
[00:47] <ng0n> i'm too nube to 64
[00:47] <capo> so the repo's are all still down?
[00:47] <tanath> gah, aptitude wants to autoremove all my xmm2 plugins. why?!
[00:47] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: thanks i found it, installing now
[00:47] <IntangibleLiquid> ﻿Dason: no, but thanks, it shows the partitions
[00:47] <jvai_> aaw "CLAPPIN"...  ty IndyGunFreak
[00:47] <Jorophose> IndyGunFreak: Would you just follow the same procedure then? (update-manager -d)
[00:47] <phiqtion> XMMS2 has no GUI? is there a starter guide for HARDY?
[00:47] <Gman99999> has the downloading of the upgrade stopped for anyone else?  is the server possibly down?
[00:48] <tanath> phiqtion, audacious is very similar to xmms
[00:48] <capo> yeah i think the repo's are down
[00:48] <DBautell> the only thing I remember having to fiddle with was getting the 32 bit firefox
[00:48] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: Jorophose i never done it, but i'm almost 100% certain, you can go from 1 LTS version, to another LTS version, w/o loading up the versions in between
[00:48] <nibsa1242b> bingofuel: you'll need to download the CDROM or USB version
[00:48] <capo> i can't download any packages
[00:48] <Gman99999> ah wait here we go
[00:48] <x1250> Gman99999: just pick a mirror
[00:48] <joh6nn> Gman99999: the repos are choked
[00:48] <IntangibleLiquid> ﻿Dason: the sad thing is, Partition Editor says my current harddisk space is unallocated
[00:48] <DBautell> for flash, etc
[00:48] <blbrown> im back, I got the 8.04 iso CD download, but I dont see any cdromupgrade.  is there somewhere I should look for that
[00:48] <tanath> capo, there's plenty of mirrors
[00:48] <ng0n> my Vista found out i was doing Ubuntu and I swear, it has straighted up a little.  is that possible ?
[00:48] <Dason> Gman999999                          System - Admin Softy Sources - Alternative sources - scan for best
[00:48] <maco> Datalanche: and in hardy it is a problem.  things changed and it got broken.  thats all there is to it
[00:48] <jvai_> IndyGunFreak,  it should hold reason from one LTS to another.. right?
[00:48] <rich_freecomm> mine is still puttin away.....of course it says I have about 48 days left
[00:49] <dmg46664> Jack Sparrow: Thanx for the link to aptoncd... however I think what I was looking for was apt-cache-import
[00:49] <maco> Datalanche: hopefully itll be fixed by 8.04.1 in june, but maybe it wont
[00:49] <Jorophose> IndyGunFreak: What are the odds of it going bang in my face?
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> jvai_: one would think.. google it though, i'm almost 100% SURE OF IT.
[00:49] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: they are the latest versions
[00:49] <jvai_> 'k
[00:49] <Dason> IntangibleLiquid I suggest using an external disk drive editor then
[00:49] <joh6nn> ng0n: yeah, but if that's what it takes to make Vista behave, is it worth keeping around?
[00:49] <sven_oostenbrink> nibsa1242b> 64bits is slower?
[00:49] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: ; (
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> Jorophose: don't really know, never done it.... try googling it... i install every 6mo
[00:49] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink:  DBautell: yes, Firefox and extensions and Wine are the two main things that I find are easier to use in 32bit... one can always run the 32bit version on a 64 bit system but it takes time
[00:49] <Dason> Such as GParted
[00:49] <tanath> Jorophose, follow the guide in the topic and  you should be good
[00:50] <nibsa1242b> sven_oostenbrink: I think 64bit is marginally faster... but it depends
[00:50] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: did this used to work and suddenly broke, or did it never work?
[00:50] <thedonvaughn> ng0n: yah it's a feature.  If you install a linux kernel greater than 2.6.24, vista knows and it tweaks it's parameters (tm)]
[00:50] <hansin> ng0n: Yeah, I head there is a bit of code in Vista that detects if you are dool-booting Linux, and if so it runs better.  I guess MS must have figured if your dual boot Linux, that Vista better shape up in case you might make the full switch.
[00:50] <Datalanche> hmmmm
[00:50] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: it worked yesterday
[00:50] <Mike_T> hansin: lol
[00:50] <pifedo> Hi! My sound isn't working.. I have an Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02), but alsa can't find any sound card. What can I do?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> dmg46664, several options available
[00:50] <Datalanche> Well then, I dunno what to do if I can't use Hardy on my computer.
[00:50] <joh6nn> linkmaster03: so what'd you do to break it between now and then? : )
[00:50] <Light|DC> t/hop
[00:50] <ng0n> hansin: I knew it !@!
[00:51] <Gman99999> is wine even a viable method for installing popular windows aps I sure hear alot of people preaching how much better linux is than windows but Ive had so much trouble with simple hardware drivers that pissed me off alot, what makes linux so good?
[00:51] <jwwadk> hello all. this may sound like a noobish problem: my screen brightness options have disappeared
[00:51] <unop> joh6nn, you might need 'altscreen on'
[00:51] <blbrown> sh: Can't open /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade ... wtf
[00:51] <linkmaster03> joh6nn: nothing xD
[00:51] <tanath> pifedo, hardy uses pulseaudio now...
[00:51] <eternal_p> Gman99999: go to www.winehq.com and look for the app in question
[00:51] <Dason> Gman, to be king, yes
[00:51] <pifedo> tanath: So, What can I do? My sound isn't working any way...
[00:51] <hansin> ng0n:
[00:51] <joh6nn> unop: just throw 'altscreen on' in my .screenrc ?
[00:51] <maco> Datalanche: stick to gutsy
[00:51] <ng0n> hah
[00:51] <Myke516> Hey everyone
[00:51] <tanath> hansin, o.O have a source for that?
[00:51] <Dason> How can we help
[00:51] <Datalanche> Too late
[00:51] <Datalanche> I just wiped it
[00:52] <Gman99999> are there lots of bugs still in hardy heron?
[00:52] <jPratt> whats LTS stand for
[00:52] <Datalanche> heh
[00:52] <thedonvaughn> Gman99999: it's not made for easy plug-n-play.. even tho ubuntu tries that.  Sometimes you gotta manually install or setup a driver if that company who makes that piece of hardware doesn't give a linux driver for free and or hardware calls to developers to include in kernel.
[00:52] <DBautell> nibsa1242b, sven_oostenbrink, I seem to remember the BOINC people saying the speed difference is negligible, and even sometimes negative. Never occured to me that that might be part of my wine diffculties
[00:52] <SeaPhor> Gman99999, you can send me a tell and if i know i'll discuss it with you
[00:52] <Dason> Long Term Service
[00:52] <fdsjkalf> im going to try hardy today, i may even continue to use it
[00:52] <unop> joh6nn, aye, yes .. but i'm just stabbing in the dark - what exactly is vim doing in screen?
[00:52] <FrankH> ﻿what is the new package name for vim-full?
[00:52] <hansin> ng0n: I was just kidding with you.  I highly suspect it is not related, at least not intentionally so.  But that would be funny.
[00:52] <pifedo> Gman99999: Oh yes! A LOT OF!
[00:52] <tanath> pifedo, you could make sure you have all the pulseaudio stuff you need, and remove the alsa & other stuff
[00:52] <jwwadk> does anyone know how to manually change screen-brightness?
[00:52] <phiqtion> does anyone know how to run XMMS2 on hardy?
[00:52] <tanath> pifedo, seems to have worked for me
[00:52] <ng0n> hansin: ya, i get it.
[00:52] <lewench> !upgrade
[00:52] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:52] <ng0n> hey.. it was FUNNY
[00:52] <Dason> Screen Brightness is a Monitor setting
[00:52] <unop> phiqtion, xmms has been replaced by audacious
[00:52] <tanath> jPratt, long term support
[00:52] <fdsjkalf> i found a mirror thats serving hardy to me at 1150+ KBps
[00:52] <hansin> tanath: Yeah, isdualbootlinux?.dll.
[00:52] <nibsa1242b> Gman99999: I only use WINE to visit sites in IE that refuse to work with firefox, opera, or Konq. And that doesn't always work so well so I revert to kqemu.
[00:52] <jPratt> kk thx
[00:52] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:52] <pifedo> tanath: I'm on a live session.. I just started the CD image I downloaded today..
[00:52] <hansin> Oh, you wanted source...
[00:52] <rich_freecomm> 1288 files of upgrade to dl, 1288 files of upgrade, finish one up, save it to drive, 1287 files of upgrade to dl
[00:53] <phiqtion> unop: is audacious in the repos?
[00:53] <Myke516> i have hardy but i am having trouble updating packages
[00:53] <tanath> hansin, heh
[00:53] <phiqtion> !audacious
[00:53] <ubotu> audacious is included in !Feisty. A !repository also exists for !Edgy: see http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads
[00:53] <eternal_p> nibsa1242b: Office 2003 via Crossover (wine) is perfect
[00:53] <Gman99999> interesting
[00:53] <jwwadk> Dason: right, but the power management options to change it have disappeared
[00:53] <McJester82> does anyone know the horiz and VertSync for the PowerPC G4
[00:53] <fdsjkalf> aww. its slowing down now
[00:53] <Dason> Just compile your own Upgrade!
[00:53] <Gman99999> I have skype but it sure sucks with linux
[00:53] <nibsa1242b> DBautell: sven_oostenbrink to the best of my knowledge, there is no 64 bit version of wine because it is attempting to emulate a 32bit OS
[00:53] <unop> phiqtion, sorry, you said xmms2 .. you might need an xmms gui -- but audacious is available yes
[00:53] <tanath> phiqtion, it is
[00:53] <Dason> lol jk
[00:53] <x1250> Gman99999: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[00:53] <Wyleyrabbit> anyone have any tips on getting my extra mouse buttons to do what they're supposed to? (I have a left-thumb button that should hit back button in browser, etc.)
[00:53] <jPratt> Can you do office 07 with Wine?
[00:53] <eternal_p> Gman99999: skype works fine for me, just google metabunut repositories
[00:53] <ng0n> ya.. skype is not so good in linux..
[00:53] <Dason> jwwadk let me look into this
[00:53] <tanath> !mouse
[00:53] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[00:53] <jwwadk> thanks
[00:53] <nibsa1242b> Wyleyrabbit: what mouse do you have?
[00:54] <tanath> Wyleyrabbit, ^
[00:54] <ng0n> which i don't understand as it's a ROBUST program, by and large.
[00:54] <Gman99999> I cant even call out with skype on ubuntu
[00:54] <Datalanche> maco: I still think this is a grub and/or devmapping issue. I had this problem once before in Edgy or whenever they changed up the ATA a while back, and fixed it by installing Ubuntu on a drive on the PCI controller and it worked flawlessly. I guess I'll just have to scramble my drives and do it that way again... annoying as it is. >_>
[00:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb > jPratt
[00:54] <crimsun> maco: pong
[00:54] <Gman99999> it will only do pc to pc calls
[00:54] <jPratt> !appdb
[00:54] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[00:54] <DBautell> nibsa1242b, you've given me new hope
[00:54] <rich_freecomm> Gman99999: yeah, a friend of mine on Winblows was having a hard time trying to tell me how to start video
[00:54] <phiqtion> how can i get audacious? its not in the package mananger
[00:54] <joh6nn> unop: i occasionally get some odd screen artifacts, with vim (and other apps that do their own special thing with the term, like top), and when i end them, the term doesn't "page", for lack of a better term, like i'm used to; it leaves all the stuff from vim or top or what-have-you on the screen, and just starts a new line
[00:54] <jvai_> i use gizmo works better
[00:54] <Wyleyrabbit> nibsa1242b: I have a logitech laser mouse. note sure particular part #
[00:54] <phiqtion> n/m found it
[00:54] <tanath> !mouse > Wyleyrabbit
[00:54] <ng0n> ATA upgrade did good stuff for my Gigabyte board.
[00:54] <eternal_p> Gman99999: what error does it give you when you try?
[00:54] <Gman99999> no error just no sound
[00:55] <Dason> jwwadk What version are you using again, and where do you find YOUR brightness settings?
[00:55] <Wyleyrabbit> thanks tanath
[00:55] <jPratt> w00t CSS!
[00:55] <tanath> np
[00:55] <DEstlund> (sorry for the repeat) hardy keeps barfing during install saying files don't match - I take it I should re-download gutsy, burn and install it, and upgrade to hardy from within? I don't get this problem.
[00:55] <ng0n> w00t !
[00:55] <Gman99999> eternal_p I dont hear a thing at all when I call a land line or cellphone
[00:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Gman99999, /join #Alsa
[00:55] <zigford> GDAY
[00:55] <Dason> normally
[00:55] <pifedo> Why pulseaudio? Why firefox BETA!? NOthing works!! Firefox fonts sucks! My audio doesn't work! I lost my time!
[00:55] <unop> joh6nn, i know what you mean, the contents of vim,top,etc stay on .. altscreen on ought to sort that
[00:55] <x1250> pifedo: it works for me
[00:55] <joh6nn> unop: thanks, i'll give that a shot. : )
[00:55] <DEstlund> I've burned four coasters, but all of them pass the disk check and contain valid data
[00:55] <nomopofomo> Why don't my NTFS automount settings in my fstab file work any longer?
[00:55] <nibsa1242b> DBautell: I think you can run it in a 32bit chroot. (I used to run a 32bit firefox that way). I have no idea how to do that anymore though. I just switched to 32bit because I didn't see any reason to run everything 64bit.
[00:55] <Gman99999> but when I call another skype user it works just fine
[00:55] <tanath> pifedo, they work great...
[00:55] <eternal_p> Gman99999: first result in google: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=4489 :)
[00:55] <unop> joh6nn, also while in .screenrc .. place 'clear' in too
[00:56] <bododo_> hi :)
[00:56] <SeaPhor> DEstlund, did you burn them at a slower speed?
[00:56] <rich_freecomm> Gman99999: weirdness
[00:56] <jwwadk> Dason I'm using 8.04 (upgraded today, love it except for this problem), and I can't seem to find my monitor settings. Since upgrading, the hotkeys on my laptop for changing brightness do not work, and the brightness options have disappeared from power management
[00:56] <pifedo> they use to work fine.. not in 8.06! (to me!)
[00:56] <Acalorado> hi, hola
[00:56] <tanath> pifedo, you are running from a livecd, no?
[00:56] <Acalorado> quiero hacer un servido LTSP
[00:56] <bododo_> i'm having troubles with my bcm4318 wifi on a ibook G4 :(
[00:56] <Myke516> can someone assist me in a synaptic package manager issue in 8.04?
[00:56] <Acalorado> Quien m ayuda
[00:56] <pifedo> I think my system isn't rare.. Asus p5b-plus with ICH8 intel chip..
[00:56] <tanath> pifedo, sometimes things don't work right on the disc
[00:56] <Ertyle> !es | Acalorado
[00:56] <ubotu> Acalorado: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:56] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[00:56] <Dason> jwwadk Yea I noticed that too. You may have to re-enable that
[00:56] <DEstlund> i'm burning them at 1x right now, but I don't see why the ubuntu 8.04 cd would be any different than 7.10, or any other cd for that matter. The burns are valid
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Myke516, the servers are overloaded,
[00:56] <nibsa1242b> Wyleyrabbit: I use btnx on my Logitech mice. I find it very useful. ( http://www.ollisalonen.com/btnx/ )
[00:56] <bododo_> it just doesn't work :(
[00:57] <jwwadk> Dason do you know how I would do that?
[00:57] <Acalorado> #chile
[00:57] <pifedo> tanath: I already installed the system (BETA) some weeks ago and had the same problem
[00:57] <rich_freecomm> I'm only 1286 files away from running 8.04 :D
[00:57] <Dason> 18.2x is a permissible write speed
[00:57] <Myke516> Ah i was thinking that
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DEstlund, burning slow does make a difference, I can attest to that
[00:57] <Myke516> so far 8.04 is running great though!
[00:57] <tanath> pifedo, well... packages have changed since then
[00:57] <x1250> Acalorado: entra en #ubuntu-es, yo te ayudo si puedo
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> DEstlund, dells and hp really prefer slow burns
[00:57] <anathematic> how would i update my ubuntu server to run the latest version?
[00:57] <Alex_Sc21> Ubuntu 8.04.. SO PUMPED!!!
[00:57] <Ertyle> !upgrade > anathematic    (anathematic, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:57] <joh6nn> unop: that did it, thanks!
[00:57] <anathematic> ty
[00:58] <tanath> pifedo, firefox for instance seems to be the fastest & most stable i've seen so far, even though it's beta
[00:58] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: that is a trouble card! I know to get mine to work I had to enable it in restricted drivers manager
[00:58] <Light|DC> To prevent overload on the servers, couldnt Canocial release the torrent first, then provide direct downloads a day later?
[00:58] <unop> joh6nn, yw
[00:58] <Dason> jwwadk U will be back soon, I need to restart here
[00:58] <joetheodd> Are repositories down?
[00:58] <anathematic> Ertyle: i can't see anything for ubuntu 8 there?
[00:58] <Dason> "I"
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Light|DC, doo discussion toppic for #Ubuntu-offtopic
[00:58] <jwwadk> ok, thanks
[00:58] <Light|DC> ohk
[00:58] <DEstlund> Jack_Sparrow: I'm giving it a try right now - it's not a brand name pc, just a scrap heap I put together (but with good parts) Still it seems odd that I can clone a game dvd for backup with no problem but Ubuntu doesn't like it
[00:58] <sean_> tanath: Direct rendering is supported for "intel". Still no decorations though
[00:58] <e2> Please help.  I can't get desktop effects to work after upgrading to 8.04.
[00:58] <unop> Light|DC, part of the upgrade process is canonical ensuring it's servers are capable, so it's a testing time :)
[00:58] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: i did :( and yes you're right
[00:58] <dogmeat> us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[00:58] <dogmeat> hello
[00:58] <bododo_> it's a dmaned card
[00:58] <DEstlund> alright - burn is done! With any luck you won't see me again in 10 minutes - thanks Jack_Sparrow
[00:59] <e2> I'm using an Nvidia card on an x86 (celeron) box
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:59] <tanath> sean_, did you run 'compiz --replace &' from terminal?
[00:59] <tomd123> did anyone get the alternate cd to work and install?
[00:59] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: additionally, after a few hours of heavy surfing the card progressively looses its connection and I have to "sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx" and then "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" to get it working again.
[00:59] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[00:59] <sean_> tanath: yup. want me to pastebin?
[00:59] <dabbill> I cant get my nvidia driver to work in Hardy, every time i reboot it goes back to low graphics mode
[00:59] <Ertyle> anathematic: ouch, it's not been updated... well, the instructions for ->7.10 should apply for the most part
[00:59] <Deiz> So, as with every time I install Ubuntu, windows maximize to both my monitors instead of one. Is there a workaround? I recall with 7.04 I got lucky after a reboot and it started working properly.
[00:59] <tanath> e2, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk' to make sure you have the right driver installed
[00:59] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: the new one; hardy
[00:59] <tanath> sean_, did it say anything interesting?
[01:00] <towlieban> hi
[01:00] <ng0n> dabbilt: wat nvida card you got, or is it on board ?
[01:00] <bradlis7> is the xorg.conf file not in use in hardy?
[01:00] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: it used to seem to work at a distnce of 3 meters with gutsy
[01:00] <tanath> bradlis7, it is...
[01:00] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: I can't help you there... haven't been able to upgrade. I'm waiting for the repos to be less swamped.
[01:00] <unop> bradlis7, it can be, but xorg can work without one
[01:00] <e2> It's an old 128 Mb NVidia card.  Worked just fine with compiz on 7.10.
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> bradlis7, xorg is entirely different with this release
[01:00] <Ertyle> anathematic: though to be honest, i think you'd be better off waiting until the mirrors actually start working again and there is some documentation
[01:00] <doug2266778822>  why do the animations not work in compiz?
[01:00] <jjt001> Dason: you just need to look harder
[01:00] <bradlis7> so how do i manage the config?
[01:00] <anathematic> Ertyle: yeah i think i might wait anyway ty
[01:00] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: but the solution should be the same, right?
[01:00] <bradlis7> is there another file?
[01:01] <unop> bradlis7, you could create one i guess
[01:01] <x1250> bradlis7: it is, but its minimal because xorg tries to autodetect things. You can edit it by hand, its your choice
[01:01] <ng0n> 5200 ?
[01:01] <bododo_> nibsa1242b: can I pm you, please?
[01:01] <jjt001> Dason: there are open source alternatives to almost everything
[01:01] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: mine works within about a 10-12meter range in Gutsy... which is about half the range I get in Windows
[01:01] <SeaPhor> i've just finished downloading the ISO, do I "open with ~creator" or "write to disk">?
[01:01] <ng0n> pci,  pci-express ?
[01:01] <nibsa1242b> bododo_: sure pm away
[01:01] <tanath> bradlis7, 'gksu displayconfig-gtk' will give you a gui for configuring it
[01:01] <bradlis7> i have nvidia, but it doesn't seem to be able to use it
[01:01] <sean_> tanath: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64294/
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, write to disk is what I use
[01:01] <navetz> i am trying to set up my server to send email
[01:01] <dabbill> ng0n, 8800GT
[01:01] <oddalot> bradlis7 i'm having problems with nvidia and my crt displaying
[01:01] <nomopofomo> my NTFS automount stopped working in 8.04
[01:02] <nomopofomo> does anyone know why?
[01:02] <doug2266778822> can anyone help me get the animations for the windows to work in compiz?
[01:02] <akorn> anybody know the shortcut/macro keys to load up Tracker Search?
[01:02] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, Thanks Bro!
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:02] <ng0n> dab: o.  rats.
[01:02] <e2> HELP - I'm stuck at 1024 x 768 and no desktop effects.
[01:02] <navetz> does anyone know how i can set up my server to send email's?
[01:02] <nibsa1242b> nomopofomo: read the release notes
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, burn at a slow speed
[01:02] <tanath> sean_, doesn't seem you have the right driver
[01:02] <nohelphere> i still have the same exact issue
[01:02] <jwwadk> e2, have you checked the screen resolution options?
[01:02] <metanil> i tried to add other application and got "failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudists/hardy/Release.gpg" .. and so on
[01:02] <oddalot> blah, stupid resolutions are retarded on heron
[01:02] <cafuego> Both Pidgin and Evolution have stopped being able to create SSL and TLS connections this morning. They don't print any debug info on the cmdline. Am I missing something obvious?
[01:02] <dabbill> brb tryin some thing
[01:02] <e2> Yep.  1024 x 768 is max.
[01:02] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, slowest option i have is 18.6?
[01:02] <ng0n> huh.
[01:02] <bradlis7> i have a flat screen... i finally got the nv driver to work, and the resolution works right when logged in, but the GDM resolution is too big, and displaymanager-gtk has never used the resolution that it says it uses
[01:02] <sean_> tanath: it passes the direct rendering test though
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, np use that
[01:02] <jwwadk> what's the max resolution on your monitor?
[01:03] <e2> I usually have this issue until the nvidia driver is installed and enabled.
[01:03] <oddalot> 800x600 max on my 21 inch monitor, that's if i turn off 3d drivers
[01:03] <e2> Before the upgrade = 1280 x 1024.
[01:03] <oddalot> with 3d drivers i get 680x480 max
[01:03] <bradlis7> yeah, mine's showing 800x600, but it's supposed to be 1440x900
[01:03] <oddalot> e2, we are in the same boat
[01:03] <nohelphere> the x server crashes and restarts
[01:03] <oddalot> all of us
[01:03] <oddalot> stupid upgrade
[01:03] <nohelphere> can only start in a filsafe session
[01:03] <tanath> sean_, glxinfo says direct rendering: yes ?
[01:03] <x1250> oddalot: try adding vertical and horizontal refresh rates on xorg.conf
[01:03] <nohelphere> kubuntu is completely fine
[01:03] <sean_> tanath: yeah, that one
[01:03] <tanath> sean_, odd
[01:03] <e2> oddalot: how?
[01:03] <jPratt> How do i get wine
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wine
[01:04] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[01:04] <oddalot> i don't know what they are supposed to be, this monitor is too old, doesn't have specs
[01:04] <smallfoot-> jPratt, $ sudo apt-get install wine
[01:04] <nohelphere> i NEED to us ekubuntu i can't us eubuntu
[01:04] <jwwadk> jPratt you should be able to download it from the package manager
[01:04] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, I'm gonna try the live cd first, see what works and what doesnt, then upgrade, see what happens but i'll have the full-fresh install option because i have /home on seperate partition
[01:04] <dfgas> !mirrors
[01:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:04] <nomopofomo> nibsa1242b, there's nothing in the release notes about NTFS
[01:04] <theunixgeek_> The loading bar in the usplash keeps bobbing back and forth instead of actually loading. how do I fix this?
[01:04] <bradlis7> we need to start a chat about resolution problems
[01:04] <oddalot> i should of saved my xorg.conf from 7.10
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, you can also consider dual boot...
[01:04] <tanath> someone needs to write a guide..
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, i did :)
[01:05] <e2> One of those things you think would have been ironed out in the beta.
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, I have xp, gutsy and hardy.... here
[01:05] <JPSmon> Help I have no sound
[01:05] <oddalot> smallfoot, do you have a CRT?
[01:05] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, already am with winders, 1 more might confusse me too much lol
[01:05] <akorn> anybody know the shortcut/macro keys to load up Tracker Search?
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, yes, and it does not support EDID :(
[01:05] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: starts with the "nosplash" kernel option and remove the "quiet" option, and see where it gets stuck
[01:05] <metanil> i tried to add other application and got "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntudists/hardy/Release.gpg" .. and so on
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, np
[01:05] <oddalot> what is edid?
[01:05] <simonft2> JPSmon: seems like computer problem
[01:05] <smallfoot-> oddalot, it reads stats from monitor and automatically use good values
[01:05] <simonft2> is ubuntu showing the volume on?
[01:06] <Ertyle> metanil, mirrors are bogged down, see /topic
[01:06] <JPSmon> nope - the mice in the generator wheel are dead
[01:06] <nibsa1242b> nomopofomo: sorry, my bad I read NTFS as NFS
[01:06] <oddalot> smallfoot- can you email me your working xorg.conf : oddalot@yahoo.com
[01:06] <bazhang> ljl is that you? ;]
[01:06] <bradlis7> it's kind of annoying that they took displaymanager-gtk off the menu, and didn't replace it
[01:06] <Ertyle> bazhang: no
[01:06] <bradlis7> i can still use it, but it's annoying
[01:06] <bazhang> haha
[01:06] <JPSmon> simonft2: no, shows with a red circle
[01:06] <smallfoot-> oddalot, ok but im not sure you can use it
[01:06] <nomopofomo> nibsa1242b, that's what I thought :) it's okay though, i found that my harddrives aren't hda1 etc anymore but sda etc
[01:06] <oddalot> wait
[01:06] <A|ysum> hello is "64bit AMD and Intel computers" ubuntu download the right one for Core 2 Duo CPUs ? thx
[01:06] <oddalot> brandlis how do you get to it now?
[01:07] <simonft2> JPSmon: ah, your joking.
[01:07] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, However, I have not logged into my windows partition in so long,,, i would have to spend the first 3 hours on win-updates, AV updates, and a reboot or 2,,,,
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ata1: failed to read native max address (err_mask=0x4)
[01:07] <bradlis7> nvidia restricted driver doesn't show up on my hardware drivers either
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: but booting in recovery mode works
[01:07] <JPSmon> was
[01:07] <pure`eigenVector> lol
[01:07] <nomopofomo> bradlis7, to fix that you need to go into synaptic and enable third party software, then install nvidia-glx-new
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, I disabled the network card in my windows partition.. too much work to keep it running online..
[01:07] <oddalot> brandlis7 how do you open the display menu?
[01:07] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: upgrade or fresh install?
[01:07] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: fresh
[01:07] <apathetic-> Guise, my xlib.h doesnt exist, i install the xlib-dev pack, but i cannot find it
[01:07] <bradlis7> nomopofomo: thx
[01:08] <pure`eigenVector> I guess everybody's updating... slow download for updates... would it be faster to update from the torrent?
[01:08] <dfgas> !mirror
[01:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[01:08] <smallfoot-> oddalot, sent... but i have nvidia geforce, microsoft mouse, etc.. so it might not work for you
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ok, now it says ist's EH complete
[01:08] <pure`eigenVector> thx ubotu!
[01:08] <dabbill> any one useing a 8800GT in Hardy? if so how did you get your nvidia driver installed and working
[01:08] <oddalot> i have geforce
[01:08] <smallfoot-> oh
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: and ata2 is EH complete
[01:08] <oddalot> it might work
[01:08] <smallfoot-> ya, it might
[01:08] <oddalot> i'll just erase the mouse part
[01:08] <oddalot> thankS!!
[01:08] <smallfoot-> else you might need edit some stuff
[01:08] <smallfoot-> :)
[01:08] <Ubuntong> Does 8.04 support Compiz on an ATI 3850?
[01:08] <rawb> i'm getting these errors on a 8.04 server in /var/log/syslog - how can I fix this? http://pastie.caboo.se/186502
[01:08] <DBautell> oddalot, I think I've had luck in the past looking up syncs and stuff here: http://www.monitorworld.com/monitors_home.html
[01:08] <bradlis7> oddalot: alt-f2 -> gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[01:08] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, ? ohhh, so you dont use internrt in windows?
[01:08] <b4l74z4r> i installed the oss system in ubuntu a while back and i can't remember where it installed itself, how do i find the right location?
[01:08] <nomopofomo> dabbill, you need to go into synaptic, enable third party software repositories, then install nvidia-glx-new
[01:08] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: it keeps telling me over and over that EH complete for ata2
[01:08] <phiqtion> what are the colors on this look called? metacity or gtk2?
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, none...
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> phiqtion: what look?
[01:09] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: is there also an "xfermode" error?
[01:09] <phiqtion> thunixgeek: human
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: no
[01:09] <dfgas> anyone know of a good mirror to download at, i am on 5 megabit and would like it fast
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: now I'm in Busybox
[01:09] <simonft2> dfgas: too bad
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: ALERT: /dev/somethingsomething/ does not exist!
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> :S
[01:09] <nownot> everytime i try to apt-get install something i get couldn't find package
[01:09] <oddalot> DBautell: no luck it's not on the list, too old :D
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> dfgas: torrent
[01:09] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:09] <theunixgeek_> dfgas: see topic
[01:10] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, lmao, Thats probably the BEST way to use windows!
[01:10] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: /dev/disk/by-uuid/something?
[01:10] <DBautell> oddalot, well, I tried
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, again, the servers are tied up.. dont expect to get anything from them
[01:10] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: yeah
[01:10] <mvinsc> when i install will my Broadcom card work? I use windows drivers now.
[01:10] <bazhang> nownot: best enable some more repos then
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> SeaPhor, It works for me..
[01:10] <dabbill> nomopofomo, what one? all i have listed in there seems to be ones for 7.10, the 1 thats listed in there for 8.04 is already checked
[01:10] <nownot> Jack_Sparrow: doest even look like its trying to look though
[01:10] <nownot> bazhang:  pls explain
[01:10] <oddalot> brandlis i think that might of fixed it THANKS
[01:10] <cwillu> mvinsc, you shouldn't need to use ndiswrapper anymore
[01:11] <bazhang> nownot: please pastebin your sources.list
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, install b43-fwcutter after you install, and it should work
[01:11] <bradlis7> yup (and it's bradlis7, no n)
[01:11] <mvinsc> really!
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, qualified maybe :p
[01:11] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, did it ever get through apt-get update ?
[01:11] <fsufitch> hi, could anyone here help me set up a multimonitor output via VGA (or a clone output) in KDE 3.5? (also running compiz)
[01:11] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: you might want to try booting with the "irqpoll" kernel option, given bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/204916 (and also possibly related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/107982 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/112132)
[01:11] <oddalot> i like brandlis :D
[01:11] <CaptainMorgan> I'm trying to find the remaining disk space on a remote ubuntu system.... anyone got a command line for it ?
[01:11] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: thanks
[01:11] <cwillu> mvinsc, if you're not doing a fresh install, make sure you undo any blacklisting stuff you did previously
[01:11] <towlieban> i ran update manager and its downloading 79 packages. does that sound right for an update from gutsy to hardy or are those just gutsy updates ?
[01:11] <cwillu> remove ndiswrapper configs, etc
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: the irqpoll has always bugged me in every distro - ubuntu, fedora, etc
[01:12]  * bradlis7 laughs
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: although, the fact that recovery mode works leaves me perplexed
[01:12] <flamedryad> i is back
[01:12] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: but you were using Gutsy without it?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> CaptainMorgan, free ?
[01:12] <Liquidy> CaptainMorgan: df -a
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: yeah
[01:12] <CaptainMorgan> Jack_Sparrow, yes
[01:12] <mvinsc> ok. thanks
[01:12] <dabbill> nomopofomo, also it shows that i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[01:12] <simonft2> !Segmentation fault
[01:12] <towlieban> can anyone answer me
[01:12] <nownot> Jack_Sparrow:  doing it now
[01:12] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: was your drive /dev/sdwhatever or /dev/hdwhatever in gutsy?
[01:12] <towlieban> i ran update manager and its downloading 79 packages. does that sound right for an update from gutsy to hardy or are those just gutsy updates ?
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: not sure
[01:12] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: but now it's booting normally
[01:12] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:12] <Ertyle> towlieban: doesn't sound right
[01:12] <cwillu> towlieban, probably just gutsy
[01:13] <fsufitch> towlieban: that sounds a little too little for that ;)
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: how do I change grub to always boot with irqpoll?
[01:13] <bradlis7> i think there were 1000 packages that i had to update
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: (I'm logged in now :D )
[01:13] <fsufitch> i'm doing the same upgrade and it has 1.5k "files"
[01:13] <Ertyle> theunixgeek_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst - however be aware that irqpoll does take a toll on performance (not sure how bad a toll, but)
[01:13] <towlieban> 1500 packages ?????/
[01:13] <mattycoze> hey everyone, what's the command to update to 8.04?
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: oh well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do ;)
[01:13] <Ertyle> towlieban: that would me more like it
[01:13] <towlieban> how many packages are there for an update from gutsy to hardy  ?
[01:13] <fsufitch> dunno if they're packages themselves
[01:13] <theunixgeek_> Ertyle: thanks a bunch :)
[01:14] <linkmaster03> When I open xsane, this comes up, and the program immedietly exits: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:14] <Abd> i have to update 1237 files and at 1057 file
[01:14] <Ertyle> towlieban, it depends on how many packages you had installed on your gutsy
[01:14] <Abd> not much longer to wait
[01:14] <clay> hey, anybody know how to install lightning 0.8 w/ thunderbird for 8.04?
[01:14] <Ertyle> but basically it will update every package
[01:14] <jPratt> I cant get wi e
[01:14] <jPratt> wine**
[01:14] <phiqtion> how can i unpack a .RAR archive
[01:14] <fsufitch> towlieban: see, Abd agrees w/ me sorta
[01:14] <xb3rt> i downloaded a .tar.bz2 firewall package, extracted it and cant run make or make install, any reason for this?
[01:14] <Ertyle> !rar > phiqtion    (phiqtion, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:14] <linkmaster03> jPratt: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !rar > phiqtion
[01:14] <bradlis7> the usf.edu server is in good shape, if anyone needs to update
[01:15] <mattycoze> !update
[01:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:15] <Ertyle> xb3rt: define "can't run"
[01:15]  * Twigathy waves
[01:15] <box> of
[01:15] <simonft2> !rar|phiqtion
[01:15] <ubotu> phiqtion: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:15] <Liquidy> phiqtion: www.rarlab.com :)
[01:15] <cabrioleur> linkmaster03, this usually means that the application was compiled using different libraries than what you currently have. Revert to previous version, it might fix problem. You can also compile your own xsane.
[01:15] <jPratt> E: Couldn't find package wine
[01:15] <oddalot> YES, that fixed it branlis7
[01:15] <Ertyle> jPratt: you need Universe enabled
[01:15] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: i'll try compiling it myself thank you
[01:15] <Ertyle> !sources > jPratt    (jPratt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:15] <xb3rt> Ertyle, i can do the ./configure but thats as far as it gets
[01:15] <fsufitch> jPratt: do you have universe enabled?
[01:15] <kswo> Hello, If I have an older version of ubuntu and I want to get the new version, do I need to re-download/install the newest version or can I use the internet update feature?
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> jPratt: or add the wine repository
[01:15] <oddalot> that is annoying that they didn't include the display option in the menus
[01:15] <Ertyle> xb3rt: then what happens? use pastebin if necessary
[01:15] <simonft2> 	!update
[01:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:16] <theunixgeek> with desktop effects, there's a pink glow around windows. how do I fix this?
[01:16] <mOrO^> the servers must be blitzed... no way can I d/l Hardy
[01:16] <twinkie_addict> oh yey 9 hours and 50 min left lol i realy should have waited hopefully the conection pics up soon
[01:16] <bradlis7> oddalot: still getting my name wrong.... your display problems i guess?
[01:16] <jwwadk> is anyone else having problems with brightness hotkeys in heron?
[01:16] <Twigathy> I'm trying to set up an NFSroot style Hardy install, but the boot always hangs at "eth0: link up" (This is after the nfs-premount script runs). Is there any way of nuking network manager or anything which will mess about with the networking?
[01:16] <jPratt> how do you enable universe?
[01:16] <Ertyle> mOrO^: use the torrents, see /topic
[01:16] <xb3rt> Ertyle, how do i use pastebin
[01:16] <oddalot> oh yeah, bradlis7
[01:16] <Ertyle> jPratt: see the message from Ubotu, it has a link about "recommended sources"
[01:16] <twinkie_addict> does wubi have resume ?
[01:16] <theunixgeek> xb3rt: pastebin.com
[01:16] <Ertyle> !pastebin > xb3rt    (xb3rt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:16] <theunixgeek> xb3rt: type it in, paste the url
[01:16] <mOrO^> Ertyle, does the torrent auto install? If it doesnt... Ill wait :)
[01:16] <towlieban> that site for upgrading doesnt mention 7.10 to 8.04 heres the right link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[01:16] <oddalot> sorry about the name, wow this looks better than 7.04, it's like a little smoother it seems
[01:16] <oddalot> err 7.10
[01:16] <Ertyle> mOrO^: "auto install"?
[01:16] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:17] <clay> i've been release impressed with hardy heron
[01:17] <bradlis7> yup, i think i'd like it if i could get 3d working :)
[01:17] <simonft2> pen: ubuntu talk only
[01:17] <macabro22> ubuntu isn't upgrading for some reason. Can someone help me find out whats wrong?
[01:17] <mOrO^> Ertyle, yeah, through the update manager
[01:17] <pen> simonft2: it's a ubuntu application, why can't I?
[01:17] <linkmaster03> macabro22: repos are very slow
[01:17] <simonft2> ok
[01:17] <theunixgeek> macabro22: too many people trying to upgrade at once, probably
[01:17] <towlieban> OPS: who here controls the link thats returned when doing !update ?
[01:17] <simonft2> nevermindn
[01:17] <oddalot> macabro22 what's the problem?
[01:17] <fsufitch> could anybody help me get a multimonitor setup working in kde 3.5 to work along with compiz?
[01:17] <simonft2> thinking about something else
[01:18] <runlevel> anyone able to get the logitech dinovo edge/mini dinovo working?
[01:18] <simonft2> sorry
[01:18] <goat|work> maco: if your still around,  disabling all network settings in Update Manager didn't work
[01:18] <bazhang> macabro22: more info please; are your sources set to hardy? did you update and dist-upgrade?
[01:18] <macabro22> oddalot: I am trying to upgrade but upgrade-manager becomes unresponsive
[01:18] <xb3rt> Ertyle, http://pastebin.com/m1ceace02
[01:18] <SeaPhor> Jack_Sparrow, The funniest thing is, I work for HP testing wireless lan and wan on new platforms of vista and xp, and thats the one question i still have here, how to get my rtl8185 to work on my own PC!
[01:18] <mOrO^> Ertyle, Im one of them dar Linux newbies. I like for my computer to ask me, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO TODAY! I hit the switch and KDE comes up.
[01:18] <tony403> fsufitch, have you tried #xorg?
[01:19] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, compiz should have no effect on your monitor setup. What graphic card do you have?
[01:19] <fsufitch> tony403: i thought it would be something ubuntu-specific
[01:19] <sammy> where does debconf get my root partition from, the partition where it gets the UUID it wants to put in my grub menu.1st ?
[01:19] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: where can I download the xsane source? i see binaries on the website
[01:19] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: i have an integrated intel
[01:19] <fsufitch> running  on a dell b134
[01:19] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:19] <fsufitch> *b130
[01:19] <towlieban> i really hope hardy fixes the problem with sleeping when i close the lid of my laptop
[01:19] <raiderxx> So I just upgraded to hardy heron. But I don't see any difference
[01:19] <raiderxx> SHOULD I?
[01:19] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: read the features thingy
[01:19] <tony403> fsufitch, no, ubuntu doesn't natively use kde. you could try #kubuntu as well but maybe someone here knows also
[01:19] <tarkus> anyone know how to get postgresql server running?
[01:19] <sammy> I've edited manually, since I moved my root partition, and it wants to change it back. I'd like to avoid problems in the future and change wherever on my system it's still getting that my root partition is where it used to be
[01:19] <JPSmon> does anyone know where I can get good cube-top-wallpapers?
[01:20] <mattycoze> if i've already download the Hardy LTS 8.04 iso file is there a way to update the pC with that instead of wiping the pC clean and doing a fresh install?
[01:20] <JPSmon> preferably transparent?
[01:20] <Ertyle> mOrO^, still not sure what you mean, but the CD image that you get from torrent is the very same image that you'd get from the web server (if it worked)
[01:20] <raiderxx> theunixgeek: where can I find that?
[01:20] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[01:20] <raiderxx> thanks
[01:20] <bazhang> mattycoze: live or alternate
[01:20] <cabrioleur> linkmaster03, ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/sane/xsane/xsane-0.995.tar.gz - most recent one
[01:20] <Liquidy> raiderxx: if you upgraded all of your applications on your previous distro you wouldn't have to see any diference :)
[01:20] <towlieban> matty you mean upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[01:20] <sammy> hmm. I should come back a few weeks after upgrade day.
[01:20] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur thank you very much
[01:20] <JPSmon> mattycoze: not with THAT CD, you have to download the alternate install CD
[01:20] <raiderxx> liquidy: I upgrade regularly
[01:20] <Ertyle> !build-essential > xb3rt    (xb3rt, see the private message from Ubotu) install this package
[01:20] <mattycoze> bazhang i'm pretty sure it's the live
[01:21] <theunixgeek> raiderxx: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-release-notes-rewritten-in-plain-english/
[01:21] <mattycoze> ahh dang
[01:21] <unop> mattycoze, i'm not sure, with previous releases only the alternate CD could do upgrades that way
[01:21] <bazhang> mattycoze: need the alternate then
[01:21] <navetz_> my apt-get just broke on me
[01:21] <cappicard> hm.. anyone not able to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com when running apt-get?
[01:21] <mohbana> can i install from a ntfs partion, i don't have a dvd handy
[01:21] <mattycoze> thanks bazhang unop JPSmon
[01:21] <navetz_> i was trying to install sendmail
[01:21] <navetz_> but it failed
[01:21] <cappicard> there it goes
[01:21] <ryoohki> is there a channel for 8.04 aka hardy heron?
[01:21] <navetz_> now i cant remove it
[01:21] <navetz_> can anoyone help?
[01:21] <FloodBot2> navetz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:21] <sammy> cappicard: it's swamped.
[01:21] <theunixgeek> ryoohki: this one
[01:21] <Liquidy> if you keep it up to date, and with everything been opensource, what did you expect of hardy?
[01:21] <Liquidy> it's nothing new
[01:21] <cappicard> yeah i can see that
[01:21] <clay> yeah, apt-get is having a hard today :)
[01:21] <ryoohki> theunixgeek: thanks!
[01:21] <fluidd> Hello.  Anyone point me to anything for power management?  8.04.. trying to throttle my processor in my laptop.
[01:21] <sammy> cappicard: consider picking a closer mirror
[01:21] <theunixgeek> ryoohki: (read the topic)
[01:21] <unop> mattycoze, but rathe that download the iso .. you might as well upgrade directly - see !upgrade if you are interested
[01:21] <DrX> I want to partition a 465G RAID 5 array to hold mission-critical data for optimal flexibility so it can hold Linux & Windows (NTFS) partitions that can be easily resized and grown onto additional drives -- what do you all suggest?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:22] <Ertyle> ryoohki: this is it, but #ubuntu-release-party if it's not a support question
[01:22] <theunixgeek> cappicard: torrent (see titlte)
[01:22] <theunixgeek> *topic
[01:22] <navetz_> is there a way to fix apt-get?
[01:22] <sammy> or the torrent. right.
[01:22] <jwwadk> is anyone else having problems with brightness settings using hardy?
[01:22] <dabbill> no matter what i do i cant get my nvidia driver to take for my 8800GT, tried useing envyng, installing straight from nvidia website. Every time i reboot the computer it goes back in to low graphics mode. Also when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not useing the nvidia driver.
[01:22] <oddalot> anyone know how to get emerald themes in 8.04?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> dabill: get rid of the "bulletproof config"
[01:22] <mattycoze> yeh unop too late :P i downloaded the iso last night without thining too much
[01:22] <gluer> can i do a hardy upgrade from the full iso?
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> dabill: manually edit the xorg.conf
[01:22] <_ZeuZ_> it's not hard
[01:23] <unop> mattycoze, shoulda come in here first :)
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> you'll only have to remove a couple of lines
[01:23] <cappicard> ah, that got released?
[01:23] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, tried many of times
[01:23] <oddalot> dabill...i had problems, i had to open the display thingy...it's not in the system menu anymore
[01:23] <cappicard> i'm still on gutsy. didn't know there was a new release. lol
[01:23] <mattycoze> unop yeah i was, there was already talk about the servers being blitzed
[01:23] <raving> Does anybody know of a torrent for 8.04?
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, seems like not correctly xD
[01:23] <Ertyle> raving: type /topic
[01:23] <Zasch> Hello. I'm trying to upgrade to the new release of ubuntu, but whenever I try it Update Manager just freezes up
[01:23] <linkmaster03> raving: look at the topic title geez
[01:23] <_ZeuZ_> want to see mine?
[01:23] <oddalot> raving topic
[01:23] <raving> oddalot, ahh, I apologize.
[01:23] <Ertyle> !topic
[01:23] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:24] <ryoohki> how do i add autohome for nfs - i added autohome to nsswitch.conf which used to work but didn't work now - everything else is working as far as nis is concerned
[01:24] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, i had it working perfict in 7.10, but cant get it to work in 8.04
[01:24] <oddalot> anyone here got emerald working?
[01:24] <unop> mattycoze, ohh, ahh well - not to worry, you can redistribute the ISO to friends and family :)
[01:24] <sammy> Zasch: it's probably having a hard time talking to the servers, mine did that too. try running aptitude and picking a closer mirror to download from.
[01:24] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, have you tried the integrated gnome menu?
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, I'm on Hardy
[01:24] <mohbana> can i install from a ntfs partion, i don't have a dvd handy
[01:24] <JPSmon> cappicard:  stick with the old for a while till we get these bugs worked out
[01:24] <mohbana> without using wubi
[01:24] <sammy> Zasch: I mean synaptic, not aptitude.
[01:24] <seamus7> Zasch today is the first day of the release ... the servers always get slammed on day's like today ... just be patient
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> PM me so I can show you
[01:24] <Ertyle> mohbana: i don't think so
[01:24] <dabbill> _ZeuZ_, what do you have the driver set as? nvidia or nv ?
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> and help you
[01:24] <cappicard> ok, i agree on that.
[01:24] <_ZeuZ_> nvidia
[01:24] <bradlis7> hm, nvidia still not showing up in restricted drivers
[01:24] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: yes, i can get it workngi under gnome, but i prefer using my kde. is there a way to access the gnome menu in kde?
[01:24] <bazhang> mohbana: from within windows? try unetbootin or wubi then
[01:24] <altj> does Hardy have mysql 5.1?
[01:25] <Ertyle> !info mysql hardy | altj
[01:25] <ubotu> altj: Package mysql does not exist in hardy
[01:25] <cappicard> wubi works like a charm the last time I tried it
[01:25] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, invite me too, i'm about to upgrade
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> dabbill, remember to identify first
[01:25] <towlieban> altj no you have to install it seperately
[01:25] <KalEl> hi.. can't join to #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> SeaPhor, IRC dos not have that capability
[01:25] <Zasch> sammy: How do I do that?
[01:25] <mattycoze> heh; http://digg.com/linux_unix/Massive_Desktop_Linux_deployment_52_MILLION_new_users
[01:25] <Ertyle> altj: i see only 5.0
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> KalEl, ??
[01:25] <theunixgeek> KalEl: that's because hardy's been released
[01:25] <theunixgeek> KalEl: read the topic
[01:25] <seamus7> KalEl: this channel is now focused on Hardy
[01:25] <theunixgeek> !topic
[01:25] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:25] <Ertyle> !info mysql-server | altj
[01:25] <ubotu> altj: mysql-server (source: mysql-dfsg-5.0): MySQL database server (meta package depending on the latest version). In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 (hardy), package size 52 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:25] <IcemanV9> KalEl: it's closed
[01:25] <ryoohki> hmm. i seem to be missing nfs-common
[01:25] <dny> My update manager isn't showing any new updates, is it because the servers are busy or something else? :x
[01:25] <_ZeuZ_> SeaPhor: identify and PM me
[01:25] <theunixgeek> dny: probably
[01:26] <Shpook> Hello everyone, I have a laptop and I want to use the vga output to my tv, but I'm getting no video out of it. Is there a way to enable video output?
[01:26] <KalEl> oh great!
[01:26] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, sure it does ;-) #SeaPhor
[01:26] <jords> servers are dead
[01:26] <Starnestommy> dny: the servers are very busy
[01:26] <nickrober> anyone else having scratchy sound problems?
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> x'D
[01:26] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, gnome-display-properties
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> create a channel is not the same xD
[01:26] <_ZeuZ_> though Here I go
[01:26] <bd__> yea my update manager keeps crashing when I try to upgrade
[01:26] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:26] <Ertyle> KalEl: try #ubuntu-release-party perhaps :)
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> Shpook, you'll probably have to use a fn key combo
[01:26] <bmk789> anyone else seeing high CPU usage with FF3 beta 5?
[01:26] <dny> well i knew they were busy, but i didn't know if that'd be the reason.  mine doesn't crash like everyone elses seems to do, it just doesn't show any new updates. :/
[01:26] <simonft2> bmk789: nope
[01:26] <bazhang> bmk789: what extensions yo have loaded
[01:26] <goat|work> anyone know why  the hardy update manager will not check the CD before requesting files from the repos... I have the CD option set in the software sources, and inserted, and I've unchecked the internet sources in the gutsy software sources
[01:26] <cabrioleur> fsufitch, also, here http://sernaonubuntu.wikidot.com/multiple-monitors is an interesting article how to modify xorg.conf (based on integrated intel card)
[01:26] <simonft2> bmk789: much less than ever
[01:26] <sammy> Zasch: synaptic package manager should be easy to find, look with the other administration tools. you're going to open the 'repositories' item in the menus, and there should be a drop-down list to select your mirror. you can then select 'other' and click the button to find your closest mirror.
[01:27] <Shpook> Daisuke_Ido: Sorry, I meant to mention that I tried that and it didn't work.
[01:27] <KalEl> Ertyle :)
[01:27] <fsufitch> cabrioleur: thx! i'll try
[01:27] <jwwadk> does anyone know how to control screen brightness without using the power manager?
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> are the repositories overloaded atm? :\
[01:27] <bmk789> bazhang: good question, ill try to disable a few and see what it does
[01:27] <linkmaster03> What is the GTK library package name?
[01:27] <JPSmon> goat|work: is it the alternat install CD?
[01:27] <scizzo-> Pc_Madness: yes
[01:27] <goat|work> JPSmon: no desktop
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> bah :(
[01:27] <Pc_Madness> eta?
[01:27] <ANTDx1> libgtk?
[01:27] <nickrober> anyone else having scratchy sound problems?
[01:27] <scizzo-> Pc_Madness: hard to say since they are hammered with traffic really
[01:27] <goat|work> Pc_Madness: eta is now,  its just super slow
[01:27] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: libgtk2.0-0
[01:28] <Shpook> Was it nvidia-settings or something that used to allow dual monitors?
[01:28] <seamus7> jwwadk I am able to adjust screen brightness by doing FN + arrowup/arrowdown
[01:28] <linkmaster03> thanks Starnestommy
[01:28] <goat|work> JPSmon: why wouldn't the desktop work over the alt install cd?
[01:28] <goat|work> as a software source
[01:28] <Shpook> seamus7: I'm basically trying to do the same thing as you, except with a cga output instead of s-video.
[01:28] <smallfoot-> which i should install gnash, swfdef or adobe?
[01:28] <Pc_Madness> did Ubuntu mobile get released last night as well?
[01:29] <MP2E> Hello all
[01:29] <cabrioleur> Shpook, yes, nvidia-settings can modify xorg.conf to let you use multiple screens.
[01:29] <bazhang> goat|work: just not made to do that
[01:29] <JPSmon> goat|work: hrm I dunno.
[01:29] <MP2E> Wow this is epic
[01:29] <MP2E> an IRC that is actually used
[01:29] <corden> guys quick question does server edition has default gui or you have to install it manually?
[01:29] <naer_dinsul> For some reason my postgresql installation has inexplicably quit working.  It fails with an error: 'could not load root certificate file "root.crt": no SSL error reported'
[01:29] <bazhang> Pc_Madness: likely not
[01:29] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:29] <Shpook> cabrioleur: Thank you, hopefully it will allow me to enable the vga output on my laptop.
[01:29] <jwwadk> seamus7: thanks, but the hotkeys are different on my laptop. i was thinking more of a software-based solution
[01:29] <Pc_Madness> bugger :(
[01:29] <bazhang> corden: need to install
[01:29] <bmk789> bazhang: I disabled a bunch that didnt work anyway and now it seems to be behaving correctly, thanks
[01:29] <jcwilliams> Anyone up for helping a newbie with an Install problem?
[01:29] <goat|work> bazhang: so the alt install would be identified?  damn, had i known :-)
[01:29] <raiderxx> I read online about a family tree making program. Does that come preinstalled, or do I have to download it, and if so, what is it called?
[01:30] <jvai_> i'm ghost everyone.. peac
[01:30] <corden> bazhang, so i need inet connection so that i can download the gui?
[01:30] <MentalNotes> Does anybody know what's happened to the Gobuntu Hardy release? The latest build on cdimage.ubuntu.com was a daily from 4 days ago
[01:30] <MP2E> Well I'm having problems installing Ubuntu 7.10 on an SiS 630/730 Integrated system along with an AMD Athlon 32-bit processor
[01:30] <linkmaster03> jcwilliams: it might help if you tell us what your problem is. don't ask to ask a question
[01:30] <KalEl> archive.ubuntu.com clogged
[01:30] <bazhang> goat|work: many new packages are just not on the livecd; if you have hardy already you dont need either cd
[01:30] <Shpook> Wow, servers must be slammed with the release. I'm only getting 15kbps when I usually get 400-500+
[01:30] <dny> does virtualbox need a lot of power to run?
[01:30] <MP2E> Ubuntu's installer crashes on BusyBox
[01:30] <bazhang> corden: would be helpful yes
[01:30] <MP2E> :/
[01:30] <goat|work> bazhang: thanks
[01:30] <cycom> I'm not even getting a connection yet.  I've heard reports that it's taking like 5 minutes :)
[01:31] <bmk789> i hope people are using the torrents instead of downloading images via http/ftp *cough cough*
[01:31] <bazhang> MP2E: check the md5sum for that disk
[01:31] <corden> oic, i thinking if the gui it on the cd, just need to be install. bazhang
[01:31] <raiderxx> Anyone know?
[01:31] <MP2E> Did
[01:31] <Zicks> osmosis emerald under hardy heron doesnt work --- but fix is emerald --replace
[01:31] <jcwilliams> I am trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on an XPS 420.  I think my video card is the problem.  I am running an Nvidia Geforce 8800GT
[01:31] <Zasch> instead of trying to upgrade through update manager, would it be faster to just download the CD?
[01:31] <cycom> bmk789: I think it's more the dist-upgrade folks
[01:31] <MP2E> bazhang: I have previously installed Ubuntu from that same disk
[01:31] <Paulius> How can I enable SSH on Hardy?
[01:31] <JPSmon> bmk789: I would help with that if my internet wasn't screwed up
[01:31] <MP2E> But on a different system
[01:31] <cycom> Paulius: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:31] <ANTDx1> Paulius, install the openssh package
[01:31] <MP2E> could a scratch possibley have messed it up?
[01:31] <cycom> Paulius: it does the rest ;)
[01:31] <MP2E> But Disk Check doesn't work either
[01:31] <bmk789> cycom: ya but arent the images hosted on the same server?
[01:31] <x1250> Paulius: openssh-server or -client
[01:31] <DrX> if your hardware RAID controller lets you dynamically grow volume groups, do you still need to you LVM to grow partitions?
[01:31] <Paulius> cycom, ANTDx1: It says "package obsolete" on both.
[01:32] <bazhang> Zasch: likely both are slow at this point--torrents would be fastest
[01:32] <ANTDx1> hmm
[01:32] <sammy> oh, look at that, I wonder whats in /boot/grub/default? nope. thats not it.
[01:32] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:32] <goat|work> raiderxx: if you don't know the program name, its hard to identify if its on the OS, but i haven't heard of any
[01:32] <bmk789> cycom: or at least using the same bandwidth
[01:32] <ANTDx1> try openssh-server, like someone else said
[01:32] <Zasch> bazhang: where can I find a torrent?
[01:32] <Shadow_X> anyone know of a good clone of the mac os x dock? OTHER than karamba?
[01:32] <lucky> i screwed up my xorg.conf file and i can't get bulletproofX to start and i don't have an xorg conf file i can use to start xorg around. any suggestions on how to get a working xorg ?
[01:32] <cycom> bmk789: presumably, but I don't think most people are going and downloading an ISO right now
[01:32] <bazhang> zasch read the topic
[01:32] <goat|work> Shadow_X: awn
[01:32] <bazhang> Shadow_X: awn
[01:32] <sammy> would anyone happen to know where debconf is getting the UUID for my root partition to put into my grub configuration? I've moved it and it thinks it's in the same place and I have no idea where it's set
[01:32] <cycom> bmk789: we should ask Mr. Shuttleworth to publish the download stats on the individual files.
[01:33] <bmk789> cycom: good idea
[01:33] <macchiea> i would like to do a complete reinstall, how can I get a list of all the packages I've installed?
[01:33] <`KoRn>  /join #ubuntu-women
[01:33] <qworty> am I online?
[01:33] <raiderxx> goat|work: it was mentioned here: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-release-notes-rewritten-in-plain-english/
[01:33] <unop> sammy, perhaps from /dev/disk/by-uuid/  -- see also man volname, man vol_id
[01:33] <IcemanV9> qworty: read you just fine :)
[01:33] <raiderxx> goat|work: it says "We added in a program for making posters, signs, family tree charts, and everything else that you might think about taking to a print shop. "
[01:33] <bazhang> macchiea: dpkg -l
[01:33] <seamus7> Wonder why 8.04 isn't mentioned in a big flashy banner on ubuntu.com home? that's odd.
[01:33] <cycom> bmk789: I'm tempted to download all the torrents just to help seed :)
[01:34] <MP2E> Uh seamus7: it is
[01:34] <qworty> IcemanV9: So this is the internet?
[01:34] <MP2E> Update your Cache
[01:34] <Shadow_X> is awn in the repository? or do ya have to add another repo?
[01:34] <cycom> seamus7: hehehe
[01:34] <bmk789> cycom: thats what im doing now :) ive got a megabit up overnight
[01:34] <ANTDx1> seamus7, because adblock seems to be blocking it...
[01:34] <IcemanV9> macchiea: dpkg -l > installed_pkg.txt
[01:34] <RoAkSoAx> Shadow_X, it is in the repository
[01:34] <SkogsTrollet> yes! äntligen!
[01:34] <Shadow_X> hrmm I cant find it >.>
[01:34] <kilrae> i installed with lvm from the alternate cd and have no grub or bootsplash, is this normal?
[01:34] <seamus7> ANTDx1: hee hee ... that was it .. AdBlock ... now I see it lol
[01:34] <IcemanV9> qworty: this is irc chat room ... online
[01:34] <sammy> unop: that's almost what I'm looking for. I've changed my menu.1st, and debconf, updating grub, wants to set the root BACK to my old partition.
[01:34] <krasher> Hey i can't get my desktop in 1024x768 using a Geforce FX-5200 and a LG StudioWorks 55i in Hardy Heron... anyone can help me? i had trouble getting this to work at 7.10... but i can't remeber what i did :(
[01:34] <munkie> how do you install the flash player
[01:35] <qworty> IcemanV9: how do I uninstall the internet?
[01:35] <MP2E> lawl
[01:35] <SkogsTrollet> den här versionen av ubuntu fungerar smärtfritt!
[01:35] <MP2E> Uninstall the internet
[01:35] <DanaG> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/hardy/
[01:35] <MP2E> LUlz
[01:35] <sammy> unop: so I already know the correct UUID, I just have no idea where to tell ubuntu where I've moved it to so I don't have to manually edit menu.1st regularly
[01:35] <goat|work> raiderxx: interesting... i'm looking for the prog
[01:35] <DanaG> Mirror works.
[01:35] <Dasuraga> I had a fX-5200, the only way to get it to work is by editing the xorg.conf
[01:35] <Daisuke_Ido> !lol | MP2E
[01:35] <ubotu> MP2E: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[01:35] <DanaG> Just check dates.
[01:35] <DanaG> What should the "official" date be?
[01:35] <raiderxx> goat|work: Thanks a lot! I would, but I'm so new to this..
[01:35] <IcemanV9> qworty: what do you mean?
 cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:35] <unop> sammy, maybe update-grub does that for you .. not sure
[01:36] <DanaG> Date and time, I mean.
[01:36] <sammy> unop: thanks anyway. I'll go poking around.
[01:36] <MP2E> Brb
[01:36] <Gummi> hi
[01:36] <|ns|nR8> anyone tried dual monitor support yet in 8.04 ? i couldnt get it going correctly in 7.10...
[01:36] <qworty> IcemanV9: Well... I didnt actually choose to install the internet... it just kind of came with my laptop. To be honest its rather rubbish, I cant download cake. How do I uninstall it?
[01:36] <rhanthony> Anyone here run a DNS server? recommendations for which package to go with?
[01:36] <manuel__> So have anybody heard of the WHITE SCREEN OF DEATH issue ??? I used envy to install the latest ATI driver, and now a white screen appears when I start gnome .... any idea???
[01:37] <rhanthony> apt-get says bind is missing or unknown
[01:37] <RoAkSoAx> rhanthony, sudo apt-get install bind9
[01:37] <krasher> ﻿Hey i can't get my desktop in 1024x768 using a Geforce FX-5200 and a LG StudioWorks 55i in Hardy Heron... anyone can help me? i had trouble getting this to work at 7.10... but i can't remeber what i did :(
[01:37] <goat|work> raiderxx: its called Inkscape
[01:37] <jedimasterk> Is using thew Alternate CD better than the basic cd
[01:37] <eternal_p> rhanthony: named works well too
[01:37] <goat|work> !inkscape
[01:37] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[01:37] <rhanthony> RoAkSoAx: danke
[01:37] <Dasuraga> krasher:xorg.comf
[01:37] <raiderxx> goat|work: Thank you! You guys are amazing on here!
[01:38] <DBautell> jedimasterk, yes and no, depending on your needs and circumstances
[01:38] <linkmaster03> cabrioleur: I just installed xsane from source, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:38] <dr_roboto> morning all
[01:38] <macabro22> doodes. My upgrade process is halting at "authenticate '/tmp/tmpzy117N/hardy.tar.gz' against '/tmp/tmpzy117N/hardy.tar.gz.gpg'
[01:38] <vbabiy-laptop> Hey does canonical have any idea of how many installs they had today?
[01:38] <IcemanV9> jedimasterk: if you want to install via text console, then alter cd is good to use
[01:38] <goat|work> raiderxx: you asked if it was installed, i think its not, but its available in Synaptic once you have Hardy installed
[01:38] <qworty> Does anyone here know how to uninstall the internet? IcemanV9 is unable to help.
[01:39] <[-Ghost-]> n
[01:39] <the7thmagus> hey guys, I know you must be busy with Hardy installs. just wondering if I should get the x64 version? I have a 64 bit processor, but are there going to be software incompatibilities with 32 bit software?
[01:39] <Abd> 100 files to go
[01:39] <red22> .
[01:39] <goat|work> qworty: unplug the cable or disable the wireless?
[01:39] <tomd123> qworty: if you don't know what you're talking about, I suggest googling it
[01:39] <krasher> Dasuraga: what?
[01:39] <bazhang> qworty: interesting question but not clear
[01:39] <IcemanV9> sorry, qworty. i do not understand your problem.
[01:39] <Mark_G> the7thmagus: stick with 32 until you're more experienced with compiling..
[01:40] <the7thmagus> alright. thanks
[01:40] <monsieurledan> smoooooth
[01:40] <qworty> goat|work: I have, but its spread to my family and friends computers. I didnt install it, but I cant uninstall it
[01:40] <Abd> the7thmagus you'll have a mcuh better peformance using a 64 bit OS on a 64 bit processor
[01:40] <moDumass> hey all, im goin through the distro upgrade process, and ive had a popup saying "Replace the customised configuration file '/etc/sysctl.conf'?" and im not soo sure if i should, any ideas?
[01:40] <lopin> I can't upgrade with the CD
[01:40] <lopin> It's locking up
[01:40] <qworty> tomd123: I tried googling it, but I keep being told that I need to grow up
[01:40] <moDumass> would it be safe to oversrite this file
[01:40] <sean_> tanath: I even tried using my old xorg.conf and that didn't help. =(
[01:40] <DanaG> yay, mirrors.kernel.org.
[01:40] <duaneb> hey, can anyone else connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[01:40] <the_darkside_986> can someone help me with Hardy? I cannot figure out how to make it not go so slowly and laggy in every aspect.
[01:41] <goat|work> qworty: the internet has spread to your family and friends computers?  i think its too late man
[01:41] <bazhang> qworty: what is the internet--this sounds like offtopic not a ubuntu supprot question
[01:41] <linkmaster03> I just installed xsane from source after having this problem on a normal install, this still shows and exits Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:41] <Noah0504> Are the Ubuntu repos down?
[01:41] <bazhang> !ot | qworty
[01:41] <ubotu> qworty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:41] <Dasuraga> krasher:http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
[01:41] <lopin> duaneb: Servers are being really hit hard
[01:41] <duaneb> are there and ubuntu mirrors?
[01:41] <seamus7> moDumass: just back it up and allow the upgrade to continue .. then you're covered.
[01:41] <tanath> no, i think you prolly had that right. looks like a compiz/xgl issue
[01:41] <McJester82> hope come when I boot my PPC, my screen is blank, but if I go to TTY and the straight back to F7, the screen appears
[01:41] <Mark_G> qworty: so you want to uninstall the internet?
[01:41] <Dasuraga> scroll down to tweaking xorg.com
[01:41] <DanaG> Use other servers.
[01:41] <Dasuraga> *.conf
[01:41] <McJester82> *how
[01:41] <DanaG> Look for
[01:41] <DanaG> argh, **** apostrophe key.
[01:41] <DanaG> Look for internet2 mirrors, if in the USA.
[01:42] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 did you upgrade or is it a fresh install
[01:42] <qworty> bazhang: Its uninstalling the internet on Ubuntu... so yes I believe it is relevant
[01:42] <the_darkside_986> Fresh install
[01:42] <moDumass> seamus you are so much smarter than me
[01:42] <Abd> Noah0504 No, they are just too slow
[01:42] <duaneb> DanaG: sorry, could you explain more?
[01:42] <rhanthony> What do i do if my root password is not working?
[01:42] <linkmaster03> I just installed xsane from source after having this problem on a normal install, this still shows and exits immedietly with: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[01:42] <bazhang> qworty: please stop now
[01:42] <seamus7> seamus7 not sure
[01:42] <tomd123> the_darkside_986: nice
[01:42] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: you don't nned the root password. use sudo instead
[01:42] <duaneb> rhanthony: do you have your regular account?
[01:42] <duaneb> do a 'sudo passwd'
[01:42] <Noah0504> Abd: Okay.  I figured it had something to do with the release.  I was trying to install some restricted drivers and it fails big time.
[01:42] <rhanthony> Is there a way to recover it?  I dont remember even putting one in during setup.
[01:42] <Noah0504> haha
[01:42] <tomd123> my install isn't fresh anymore, :_(
[01:42] <MentalNotes> the_darkside_98: do you have compiz enabled?
[01:43] <rhanthony> I have my regular accts yes... but I'd like to not have to type sudo each and every time I wanna do something.
[01:43] <the_darkside_986> nope. And it takes very long to boot up compared to Gutsy, and starting up GDM is extremely laggy and causes my CPU fan to spin for a long while. well now it quit
[01:43] <qworty> bazhang: I will stop. But just so you and anyone who reads this knows, the internet is a virus... and it could be coming to a computer near you!!
[01:43] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger,
[01:43] <x1250> rhanthony: try $ sudo -s, or $ sudo su
[01:43] <linkmaster03> rhanthony: sudo -i makes the terminal root
[01:43] <MP2E> Ok I checked the MD5 and integrity of my Ubuntu 7.10 disk and it's fine, however the install on THIS computer fails on busybox
[01:43] <the_darkside_986> it is slow and laggy regardless of whether i have compiz or proprietary nvidia installed.
[01:43] <MP2E> While on my other comp I can install the whole thing easily
[01:43] <pure`eigenVector> is there a howto gusty->hardy upgrade guide when using the torrent download?
[01:43] <DBautell> rhanthony, ubuntu discourages logging in as root, and does not let you pick the password unless you sudo su and change it
[01:43] <moveax> hello. I'm trying to install a MetaCity theme for Gnome 2.22.1 on the latest Ubuntu release. When I click 'Install' and navigate to the theme tar.gz file and click Open, the appearance preferences dialog tells me it has installed correctly. However, the theme isn't in the list of available themes. What am I doing wrong here?
[01:43] <rhanthony> sweet cheesus... thank you!
[01:44] <rhanthony> So, I don't know what my root pass is?  I have to sudo su, and then set it?
[01:44] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 wouldn't you have nvidia drivers with compiz enabled on top?
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: do not set a root password
[01:44] <DanaG> warning: PDF:   www.internet2.edu/resources/Internet2MembersList.PDF  -- list
[01:44] <KyleK> moveax: i just drag and drop things perosnally
[01:44] <jedimasterk> Is using thew Alternate CD better than the basic cd
[01:44] <MP2E> This comp is an SiS 630/730 with an AMD Athlon 32-bit (old thing)
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: use sudo -i if you need to run more than one command
[01:44] <bazhang> rhanthony: root on irc? hahahaha
[01:44] <the_darkside_986> It is slow even after I had installed nvidia-glx AND turned off compiz.
[01:44] <qworty> jedimasterk: Twice as good
[01:44] <rhanthony> mneptok: is not having a root pass, safe?
[01:44] <DanaG> List of members of internet2; it's a really fast network, and most members will have very large 'pipes' to them.
[01:44] <rhanthony> NOT going to irc as root... no.
[01:44] <mneptok> rhanthony: a hell of a lot safer than setting one
[01:44] <bazhang> jedimasterk: for doing what
[01:44] <rhanthony> in another ssh, want to just get alot of named/apache setup done
[01:44] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 what kind of computer?
[01:44] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: it makes it much harder for crackers to gain control and sudo logs things, unlike root logins
[01:45] <KyleK> moveax: click customize maybe?
[01:45] <moDumass> DanaG I keep clogging my pipes with pictures
[01:45] <DanaG> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[01:45] <the_darkside_986> Not sure if slow is the best way to describe things. More like, something is making my CPU go crazy and hog CPU time. Compaq presario with 1024 MB of RAM and a celery CPU. Gutsy does not give this problem.
[01:45] <Jobias> stupid question, how do i know which version of ubuntu i'm running? i had a rough time upgrading, and i'm not sure whether i'm running 8.04 proper, or whether i'm still on the release candidate
[01:45] <moDumass> because you cant fold them, so zipping doesnt work
[01:45] <KyleK> moDumass: tubes
[01:45] <DanaG> Find things that are on both of those; also check dates on downloads.
[01:45] <moveax> KyleK: The theme isn't in the list - how do I customize something that isn't available?
[01:45] <hwilde> Jobias, cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:45] <rhanthony> Ok. Thanks for the tips.
[01:45] <KyleK> Jobias: rc -> final is so not a dist-upgrade
[01:45] <compengi> Hello.. i'm facing a little problem with my vga after installing hardy. i installed the restricted drivers, but my resolution when to 640x480. and there is no higher option.
[01:45] <rhanthony> And thanks for no one yelling RTFM or GTFO.
[01:45] <bazhang> lsb_release -a Jobias
[01:45] <rhanthony> :)
[01:45] <Mister-Toti> sera
[01:45] <IcemanV9> Jobias: in the terminal, type lsb_release -a
[01:45] <KyleK> Jobias: its just an apt-get upgrade :p
[01:45] <ubuntu__> hi
[01:45] <moveax> KyleK: And dragging the file in resulted in the same 'Install OK' dialog, but no new theme.
[01:45] <iznuics> the_darkside_986: go to terminal and type top to see what's hogging the cpu
[01:45] <Jobias> hwilde: thanks
[01:45] <moDumass> Kylec, theyre the same thing - the old ones are metal and the new ones are plastic, thats the only difference
[01:46] <DanaG> !info htop
[01:46] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 have you looked into 'tracker' ... it can hog resources ... it's the default indexing service for system wide searches .. you can throttle it
[01:46] <ubotu> htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.6+svn20070915-1 (hardy), package size 45 kB, installed size 176 kB
[01:46] <moDumass> ppictures sti;; clog them though
[01:46] <DanaG> very handy tool: htop
[01:46] <Jobias> KyleK: ah, good to know :D
[01:46] <duaneb> DARN us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <KyleK> moveax: click customize, they didn't design it right
[01:46] <jedimasterk> I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[01:46] <Jobias> IcemanV9: thanks
[01:46] <DanaG> Find a different mirror.
[01:46] <MentalNotes> moveax: you might have to customize an existing theme
[01:46] <rhanthony> another question, does anyone know of a good ircd?
[01:46] <iznuics> duaneb: pick a mirror outside the country
[01:46] <hwilde> rhanthony, sudo aptitude search irc
[01:46] <hwilde> duaneb, use the git mirror its blazing
[01:46] <_alf_> is there a way to take an xubuntu install and turn it into a regular install of ubuntu (GNOME)? I tried removing xubuntu-desktop but all it did was drop a little 33K package.
[01:46] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: inspircd, hybrid, unreal, or ratbox
[01:46] <DanaG> Not necessary to go outside the country.
[01:47] <rhanthony> anyone have experience with some of those? personal opinions?
[01:47] <the_darkside_986> how do i throttle trackerd (is that its name?)
[01:47] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 have you opened system monitor to see which running service seems to be using up you cpu resources
[01:47] <bazhang> _alf_: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:47] <_alf_> bazhang: thanks
[01:47] <iznuics> _alf_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.. then change sessions on the login screen
[01:47] <nickrud> _alf_ install ubuntu-desktop , it'll install alongside. Use options->sessions on the login screen to choose which to run
[01:47] <rhanthony> never run an ircd, wanna try so i can put chat rooms up for some of my sites
[01:47] <bazhang> xchat rhanthony
[01:47] <hwilde> rhanthony, why not use freenode it's free
[01:47] <the_darkside_986> well, the only CPU % that isn't 0 is gnome-system-monitor and firefox. but it lags without firefox or sysmonitor running
[01:47] <rhanthony> hwilde: cause, i also want to just learn how to run an ircd.
[01:48] <MentalNotes>  the_darkside_986: go to system -> preferences -> Search and Indexing
[01:48] <sammy> _alf_: also there's an apt-get command that cleans out unused packages. it's possible you have an unbelievable amount of dependencies that aren't needed. try apt-get autoclean
[01:48] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 it should be an icon in your notification area ... right click and look through preferences ... you can also access it through System/Preferences/SearchandIndexing
[01:48] <shadeofgrey> has anyboidy gotten full 8.04 to boot on intel macs in livCD mode?
[01:48] <pure`eigenVector> when distro-upgrading (from gutsy) with the alternate cd, is it safe to upgrade by mounting the iso, or do I have to burn it?
[01:48] <iznuics> the_darkside_986: trackerd might just be indexing.. when it's done all will be well.
[01:48] <hwilde> rhanthony, sudo aptitude search irc
[01:48] <the_darkside_986> ok
[01:48] <rhanthony> i've always go out and figured out how to DO the things I like using on the net... its how I started off, and why I am now a network engineer :P curiosity and not taking "no, normal people can't do that" as an answer
[01:48] <the_darkside_986> what do i do in the tracker preferences dialog?
[01:48] <_alf_> sammy: thanks... i'll try that too.
[01:48] <sammy> _alf_: I mean autoremove. autoclean deletes package files
[01:48] <KyleK> pure`eigenVector: why does upgrading involve a cd?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> rhanthony: I think ircd-hybrid is in the repos, but I prefer inspircd althopugh it has to be compiled from source
[01:49] <Starnestommy> *although
[01:49] <pure`eigenVector> KyleK... update servers are slow are really slow atm
[01:49] <moveax> KyleK: OK, so that resolved the controls - but the window borders aren't as they should be
[01:49] <KyleK> ah
[01:49] <rhanthony> Normal people shouldn't run a home network on a CISCO cat 6509 ... but it's one hell of a way to learn about networking :P
[01:49] <MentalNotes>  the_darkside_986: click on performance tab and move adjust the throttling option
[01:49] <sammy> rhanthony: yes, normal people should, and the other people should be relegated to the 'AOL' internet where you can't break anything.
[01:49] <DanaG> USE OTHER MIRRORS!
[01:49] <_alf_> how do i specify the "git mirror" that hwlide spoke of, since the us ubuntu archive is getting railed?
[01:49] <KyleK> pure`eigenVector: oh, right, I upgraded last night when people were asking when it was going to go live
[01:49] <duaneb> Guys: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:49] <dabbill> I have my driver set to nvidia in xorg.conf but when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not useing the nvidia driver
[01:49] <rhanthony> I just never got 100% into linux... was an NT guy for years and years... now going to roll up my sleeves and play with linux more than just as a bind/mail/apache server.
[01:49] <xif> can I install FF3 along-side FF2?
[01:49] <moveax> KyleK: ah, resolved that too, n/m :)
[01:50] <DanaG> Look between these two:
[01:50] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks. What about extremely slow startup time? Is there a way to fix that?
[01:50] <DanaG> warning: PDF:   www.internet2.edu/resources/Internet2MembersList.PDF  -- list
[01:50] <DanaG> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[01:50] <FloodBot2> DanaG: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <KyleK> weeee pdf
[01:50] <duaneb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:50] <pure`eigenVector> KyleK... I had started to do that... but must have taken the wrong link or something 'cause I started compiling a kernel with git... and created the .deb... and it wouldn't install
[01:50] <duaneb> whoops
[01:50] <duaneb> sorry, #ubuntu :P
[01:50] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 ... just change the settings to use less memory and choose slow indexing over faster indexing ...  you can turn off tracker in Sessions
[01:50] <Lucroth_> I have a question
[01:50] <rhanthony> sammy: well, if you have a 6509 or 7501 cisco sitting in your living room for your home network... you're not "normal" anymore.
[01:50] <shadeofgrey> we need a ubuntu channel for mac people
[01:50] <Lucroth_> What changes in this new update
[01:50] <compengi> i'm facing a problem with my vga after installing hardy. it's Nvidia FX5500. i installed the restricted drivers and after reboot the resolution went to 640x480.
[01:50] <DanaG> 6509 and 7501?  Managed switches?  Servers?  What?.
[01:50] <Lucroth_> Why should I bother?
[01:51] <the_darkside_986> oh ok. so tracker affects boot time? if that's the case then I guess I've fixed things.
[01:51] <trobos> Anyone have any idea why a wifi card would work with Ubuntu, but occasionally disconnect?
[01:51] <tanlaan> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble updating my new install of Ubuntu 7.10
[01:51] <rhanthony> DanaG: swtiches.  search the model numbers on www.cisco.com .... lil heftier than what you get at bestbuy.
[01:51] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support channel lucroth do you have a support question
[01:51] <MP2E> Ok seriously I'm stumped... This thing won't install ubuntu. Or most linuxes for that matter
[01:51] <phiqtion> how can i enable the 3d cube in HARDY? thx
[01:51] <DanaG> All I use is a dd-wrt router.
[01:51] <binarybandit> trobos, are you sure it's a client side issue?
[01:51] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[01:51] <hwilde> !cube | phiqtion
[01:51] <ubotu> phiqtion: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[01:51] <bazhang> pen what is it
[01:51] <rhanthony> DanaG: got a good deal on a few left overs back in the .bomb days, great learning tools for CCIE
[01:51] <binarybandit> phiqtion, you're lookinf for compiz fusion
[01:51] <newscane> i'm running into a problem installing via floppies...
[01:51] <anathematic> does the apt-get repo's have the latest version of ruby?
[01:51] <DanaG> compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:51] <Lucroth_> My question is somewhat linked to support, as if I bother updating I'm going to probably need it, lol
[01:51] <MP2E> It's an SiS 730 with an AMD Athlon 32-bit and an Mitsumi Disc Drive
[01:52] <DanaG> phiqtion:  compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:52] <nickrud> anathematic apt-cache policy will tell you the version available
[01:52] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:52] <hwilde> !find ruby | anathematic
[01:52] <ubotu> anathematic: Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 377 others)
[01:52] <sammy> for anyone else looking for mirrors, synaptic does a great job of pinging all the mirrors and chosing the best one for you. I'll suggest it 'cause it worked well for me :) just select 'repositories' and find your way to select a new mirror, there'll be a button.
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: it's a very cool script, but I don't know how to use it. Link:: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=486359
[01:52] <DanaG> SiS?  Ouch.
[01:52] <pure`eigenVector> is there an amd64 specific ubuntu channel?
[01:52] <binarybandit> hwilde, nifty
[01:52] <anathematic> hwilde: not quite the newest, thanks!
[01:52] <MP2E> Yeah SiS really does suck
[01:52] <smick> with the new release, are the dual screen configurations any easier than like a month ago?
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: they now provide the GUI, but it's also confusing to use
[01:52] <bazhang> Lucroth_: go to www.fsckin.com for more info thanks
[01:52] <nickrud> pure`eigenVector you're in it
[01:52] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 I don't think tracker affects boot time ... you can even set it to delay initiation by however long you wish from within its preferences ... my experience is that the compisite window manager takes some time to completely initiate after log on
[01:52] <Lucroth_> Im just curious as to if this newest ubuntu update is worth the hassle of gettting?
[01:52] <hwilde> !64 | pure`eigenVector
[01:52] <ubotu> pure`eigenVector: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[01:52] <pen> bazhang: maybe you are more talented to tell me the usage?
[01:52] <trobos> binarybandit: Im fairly new to the world of computers, but I know that on my windows boot I have a permanent connection... my instincts tell me that if it was a driver issue I wouldnt be able to connect at all
[01:52] <pure`eigenVector> nickrud: o_O oh okay... thanks
[01:52] <phiqtion> binarybandit: how can i get this?
[01:52] <MP2E> I thought Ubutnu supported SiS >_>
[01:52] <bazhang> pen never used it sorry
[01:52] <sammy> smick: as long as we're still using X, I doubt the dual screen configuration will be any easier in this decade :)
[01:52] <boolka> how do i turn on svideo output on my laptop? ( the function key + f4  dont work - did in windows) ?
[01:53] <pen> bazhang: I know. Take a look
[01:53] <binarybandit> phiqtion, type /j #compiz-fusion and ask them there :)
[01:53] <jedimasterk>  I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[01:53] <pure`eigenVector> thanks, I just assumed there would be a separate channel
[01:53] <phiqtion> binarybandit: thx
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, did you verify your burn?
[01:53] <newscane> i partitioned w/ debian sarge, grabbed ubuntu's debootstrap, and then i get errors when i run it
[01:53] <smick> sammy: thanks.  too bad. well Iwas gonna upgrade anywya, but I won't boot into ubuntu tonight and do it then.
[01:53] <jedimasterk> Yes
[01:53] <bazhang> jedimasterk: what about a net upgrade
[01:53] <MP2E> Does ubuntu support SiS?
[01:53] <iznuics> jedimasterk: you have to burn s.l.o.w.
[01:53] <newscane> it can't do chroot /target
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, net upgrade?
[01:53] <DanaG> glxinfo → *segfault*
[01:53] <jedimasterk> didn't try that was slow
[01:53] <lirit> after i inserted the install CD, it wont ask me to upgrade, it only open the CD to show me the content. How can I get it to intall?
[01:53] <DanaG> Yay, I have a working fn-f4.  I'm lucky!
[01:53] <binarybandit> jedimasterk, well, if it verified, it should be ok
[01:53] <plik> jedimasterk: did you use the force?
[01:54] <MP2E> Does ubuntu support SiS? >_>
[01:54] <bazhang> lirit: in windows? what cd is this
[01:54] <compengi> Hello LjL-Temp
[01:54] <mojo> greets!  i just did a fresh install of 8.04RC the other day and can't find a good howto on dual monitors for hardy.  all the ones i find are very old.  the screen res tool is not detecting the 2nd monitor, using fglrx with compiz; 2nd monitor is working as a sort of clone but not at same res so it scrolls the viewport.  Help/ideas?
[01:54] <Millertime_018> my updates keep failing in the new ubuntu
[01:54] <Millertime_018> what do i do?
[01:54] <binarybandit> I usually burn at like 2x when I'm burning OSs ?.?
[01:54] <sammy> smick: X configuration with even one monitor and a good 'ol FOSS driver supported video card is a chore enough. it *is* better than it was last decade, though :D
[01:54] <jedimasterk> I rebooted and got (initramfs)_ prompt both times
[01:54] <lirit> bazhang: in linux 7.10. the cd is 8.04
[01:54] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:54] <DanaG> How would you go about saying this to the nvidia driver:
[01:54] <oddalot> does anyone here have the emerald repository tab missing in emerald settings???
[01:54] <rhanthony> thanks guys... i've got what i needed for now... thanks agian for the help.
[01:54] <jedimasterk> I rebooted and got (initramfs)_ prompt both times  With Live CD
[01:54] <smick> sammy: but not better than 4 weeks ago, which is my last upgrade and last time I booted into ubuntu.
[01:55] <KyleK> oh good
[01:55] <bazhang> lirit the live cd or the alternate--what is the exact issue please be precise
[01:55] <DanaG> Assume ANY VGA monitor is capable of at least 1024x768 at 60Hz
[01:55] <KyleK> no updates since 22nd
[01:55] <DanaG> .... since some projectors are missing Pin 9 (the DDC Pin).
[01:55] <smick> I'm running a new 8800 GT video card on a new system.  so far, nvidia settings aren't working too well.
[01:55] <jedimasterk> Never had this problem with 7.10 Live cd
[01:55] <oddalot> no one here is using emerald on 8.04?
[01:55] <jcwilliams> smick: I am having issues with an 8800 GT as well.  I can't even get the live cd to boot
[01:56] <ahave> hello, i am tring to run 'apt-get install build-essential' and the build hangs at '99% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.2)]' and just sits there.. what is going on?
[01:56] <sammy> smick: thank you, nvidia and ati, for thinking that a closed source world is the best answer to innovation and progress. easily half of the questions I see for linux are 'my video is f'd up!' just 'cause there's so much pressure for one to be better than the other.
[01:56] <lirit> bazhang: the live cd. it asked me to install from the CD the very first time I inserted it. But after that, it only shows me the contents.
[01:56] <hwilde> ahave, you know everybody is upgrading to 8.04 right?
[01:56] <bazhang> ahave servers are understandably overworked
[01:56] <DanaG> I'll be switching TO ATI in summer, frankly.
[01:56] <LainIwakura> I could configur my wireless (Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI) connection in Gutsy by installing the broadcom firmwire, then enabling it in "Restricted Driver Manager". Now in Hardy, after I install the firmwire, I cannot locate the firmwire in "Driver Manager" (there is no "Restricted Driver Manager" anymore) in order to enable it. Any ideas? Thanks.
[01:56] <DanaG> I'm sick of nvidia.
[01:56] <hwilde> !broadcom | LainIwakura
[01:56] <ubotu> LainIwakura: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[01:56] <DanaG> Even if ATI is still crappy... at least it's open-source crap.
[01:56] <nickrud> ahave use a mirror, the main archive is being hammered most likely
[01:56] <ahave> hwilde, oh.. did not know that.. should i just let it sit?
[01:56] <bazhang> lirit you need to disable the cd as a software source in synpatic
[01:56] <compengi> i'm facing a problem with my vga after installing hardy. it's Nvidia FX5500. i installed the restricted drivers and after reboot the resolution went to 640x480. could anyone help me out?
[01:56] <sammy> ahave: have you tried running synaptic package manager and having it look for the closest mirror to you? that helped for me.
[01:56] <DanaG> nvidia is closed-source crap.
[01:57] <hwilde> ahave, you should go outside and get some exercise and come back tomorrow
[01:57] <ledbettj> LainIwakura:  the "Restricted Manager" got renamed to "Driver Manager" at least on my machine
[01:57] <ahave> sammy, no i have not.
[01:57] <sileni> why does apt-get update stop at 56 % getting headers
[01:57] <smallfoot-> yes but nvidia drivers work better than all other
[01:57] <sjovan> hey guys... i think i made a pritty useful script for splitting movies. how do you get it on the official wiki?
[01:57] <hwilde> sileni, , you know everybody is upgrading to 8.04 right?
[01:57] <ahave> hwilde, i am backpacking tomorrow :p
[01:57] <smallfoot-> sileni, heavy load due to 8.04 release
[01:57] <ledbettj> LainIwakura: er, I mean "Hardware Drivers"
[01:57] <sileni> i seeee
[01:57] <hwilde> ahave, sorry the truth hurts
[01:57] <sileni> so its not my network
[01:57] <Exodus> omg how do i get the cube! j/k
[01:57] <sileni> thanks guys appreciate it :)
[01:57] <LainIwakura> ledbettj: Yes I know.
[01:57] <hwilde> !cube  |  Exodus
[01:57] <ubotu> Exodus: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubotu compiz » and « /msg ubotu effects »
[01:57] <jedimasterk> And you can check card parameters with nvidia drivers as well
[01:57] <SeaPhor> I have had more compatibility issues wit ati than nvidia, but that just me
[01:57] <sammy> ahave: give it a whril. as long as it doesn't pick something on the otherside of the world (and even then), you'll probably see an improvement. it picked a mirror in canada for me (not far from seattle) and I got max download speeds through the entire upgrade.
[01:57] <Exodus> hwilde: J/K
[01:57] <Exodus> hehe
[01:57] <dabbill> any one get a 8800 GT working in hardy that can help me out?
[01:57] <newscane> can anyone help me? ;)
[01:58] <nickrud> lovely, errors in help files
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: i have a 8600gts
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, are you useing hardy?
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: nvidia-glx-new drivers should work with 8800 too.
[01:58] <Exodus> dabbill: yes.
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[01:58] <nick111> ha?
[01:58] <jedimasterk> Seems like allot of problems with an LTS version
[01:58] <philip_> why is FF3b5 included in LTS? it crashes left and right (greys out)
[01:58] <shadeofgrey>   /j #macosx
[01:58] <sammy> compengi: try doing a 'dpkg-reconfigure' on the xorg server package. let X redetect your devices with possibly new drivers and re-write the xorg.conf file
[01:58] <dabbill> Exodus, but no matter what i do i cant get any settings to stick, it keeps going back to low graphics mode
[01:58] <jcwilliams> Exodus: Would the 8800 GT stop a 7.10 install?
[01:59] <nickrud> philip_ you can install the 2.x version as well
[01:59] <pen> bazhang: so? interested?
[01:59] <Exodus> philip_: mostly when using flash.
[01:59] <SeaPhor> dabbill, _Zeuz_ was trying as he has it working now
[01:59] <bazhang> jedimasterk: many have reported success; likely a cd/media issue on your end
[01:59] <Daedius_> hey everyone ;) bad start to 8.04 for me
[01:59] <dabbill> jcwilliams, my 8800GT worked perfict in 7.10
[01:59] <Exodus> jconnolly: it should run perfectly, it's the same driver if you have your repositories updates.
[01:59] <vi1985> Hey guys, perhaps anyone can give me some help setting up ubuntu? I encountered problems on the repartition stage, and currently running it from the cd
[01:59] <philip__> lol
[01:59] <Daedius_> after instal, my mouse works intermittantly
[01:59] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[01:59] <sileni> this 8.04 is amazing, everything seems to work
[01:59] <Exodus> dabbill: well, remember you have to save them with administrative priveledges.
[01:59] <sileni> before nothing liked me
[01:59] <dabbill> SeaPhor, i have been tryin to for couple hours now with no luck
[01:59] <dabbill> Exodus, have been
[01:59] <telexicon> vileda, what happened?
[01:59] <jcwilliams> I just got a new PC and and it sounded like a few people got it installed.  The only thing I have different is that video card
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: that means making them stick in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:00] <sammy> compengi: otherwise there's a halfway decent wiki page about resolution issues, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:00] <_ZeuZ_> Guys, is there any package in Ubuntu Server for Per-Host-In-The-Network bandwidth allowance control? Without having to use TCNG directly nor recurring to htb-gen nor htb.init ? I don-t want to use CBQ either...
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: I see, and your xorg.conf is using Driver "nvidia"?
[02:00] <IcemanV9>   
[02:00] <milly1234> hi, just upgraded to 8.04, and now my xorg.conf is almost empty, how in the world do I set up my hardware? like my monitor and nvidia card?
[02:00] <jcwilliams> When I try to run my install the Screen turns black and my computer starts beeping
[02:00] <JPSmon> So i am installing Creative Soundblaster X-Fi drivers and the compiler wants me to use the same compiler that built the kernel.  But i'm not Linus Torvalds
[02:00] <dabbill> Exodus, when i open xorg.conf it says driver "nvidia"
[02:00] <LainIwakura> OK, so that wiki page says that the broadcom driver is already installed in Hardy. But I cannot use pppoeconf in Hardy. How do I get that to work? Thanks.
[02:00] <IcemanV9> asdfghjkoiuytrewqewrtyuiop[poiuytre
[02:00] <hwilde> !nvidia | milly1234
[02:00] <ubotu> milly1234: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:00] <IcemanV9> '
[02:00] <telexicon> !spam | _ZeuZ_
[02:00] <ubotu> _ZeuZ_: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[02:00] <nickrud> IcemanV9 that best have been a mistake
[02:00] <hwilde> IcemanV9, don't spam
[02:00] <x1250> someone on intrepid ibex?
[02:00] <Exodus> dabbill: pastebin your xorg.conf
[02:00] <sammy> Daedius_: a usb mouse? that's odd.
[02:01] <philip__> yeah IcemanV9 ya big willy
[02:01] <bazhang> x1250 funny but no
[02:01] <hwilde> !intrepid | x1250
[02:01] <ubotu> x1250: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex
[02:01] <nickrud> x1250 very funny, a topic for +1
[02:01] <telexicon> x1250, i dont think it has started yet
[02:01] <SeaPhor> _ZeuZ_, I wish i could help you with your question, but i am a n00b, dabbill is back and asking though
[02:01] <Daedius_> sammy, yah, usb mouse, every usb mouse I plug into my machine
[02:01] <milly1234> I installed the binary driver through the hardware driver manager thing already
[02:01] <the_darkside_986> If the "Enable indexing" box is not checked then wouldn't trackerd be disabled? also, it seems like other process such as firefox want to hog the CPU and cause lag sometimes. Maybe it's a kernel issue or something.
[02:01] <Daedius_> it works for like 3 seconds
[02:01] <Daedius_> ten stops
[02:01] <_ZeuZ_> telexicon: LAG, and if you want I can paste the output of IRSSI
[02:01] <Daedius_> then*
[02:01] <x1250> telexicon: I hear it did
[02:01] <hwilde> Daedius_, disconnect and reconnect then pastebin your dmesg output
[02:01] <sammy> Daedius_: anything interesting at the end of dmesg? using any hubs or pluging the mouse into anything other than the port on the computer itself?
[02:01] <milly1234> infact it says its enabled in that, even rebooted, and its not using it
[02:01] <Daedius_> I'll check =)
[02:01] <IcemanV9>  nickrud: i couldn't see .... all i got was black screen .... finally i am back. sorry. you're welcome to ban me to make everyone else happy.
[02:02] <sammy> oh, see, hwilde just goes straight to wanting to look him/herself :P
[02:02] <_ZeuZ_> lsmod | grep nvidia
[02:02] <JoshBP> I need help upgrading.
[02:02] <milly1234> my screen went black when I tried using it
[02:02] <nickrud> IcemanV9 nah, it was out of character for you. That's why I assumed a mistake
[02:02] <JoshBP> I get stuck on setting new software channels
[02:02] <bazhang> JoshBP: please elaborate
[02:02] <dabbill> Exodus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64297/
[02:02] <hwilde> lol @ sammy
[02:02] <telexicon> JoshBP, arent the mirrors overloaded?
[02:02] <Miss> hi
[02:03] <milly1234> does ubuntu ave any sort of central hardware setup type tool?
[02:03] <milly1234> have*
[02:03] <graft> yo why does network manager take up 74M of memory?
[02:03] <IcemanV9> nickrud: it's weird ... it happens a few time ... thks for knowing me well that i wouldn't do anything stupid.
[02:03] <vi1985> Seems there is a stream of questions here... Let me rephrase: Is it possible to repartition the disc without reformatting (lots of valuable info) when installing Hardy? My Lenovo T60 won't let me do it...   Anyone, help :)
[02:03] <jac0b> are the servers down or under a bunch of load?
[02:03] <rich_freecomm> I hate catch22s
[02:03] <telexicon> vileda, yes
[02:03] <graft> network manager takes up more memory than Xorg
[02:03] <graft> wtf
[02:03] <graft> !repartition
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repartition - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <seamus7> the_darkside_986 cpu or memory? do you have enough ram? enough video ram? are you running a bunch of programs at once?
[02:03] <graft> !partition
[02:03] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:04] <telexicon> graft, virtual memory or physical memory?
[02:04] <bazhang> vi1985: change partitions? you wish to resize, format or what please specify
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: physical is only 37m, but still more than xorg
[02:04] <mojo> greets!  i just did a fresh install of 8.04RC the other day and can't find a good howto on dual monitors for hardy.  all the ones i find are very old.  the screen res tool is not detecting the 2nd monitor, using fglrx with compiz; 2nd monitor is working as a sort of clone but not at same res so it scrolls the viewport.  Help/ideas?
[02:04] <k[5\5]> help upgrade 710 to 804 ..
[02:04] <jcwilliams> I need help getting the Live CD to boot.  My Monitor hits sleep mode and my computer just beeps
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: and way too much for a stupid network manager to take up
[02:04] <telexicon> graft, xorg is highly optimized
[02:04] <k[5\5]> update manager no response
[02:04] <graft> telexicon: and network manager is not?
[02:04] <philip__> lol!
[02:04] <telexicon> no network manager is not
[02:04] <NAiL> Any Xen gurus here? Having some issues with Xen after upgrading to Hardy :(
[02:04] <Miss_Adriana_Ber> let me see
[02:05] <graft> telexicon: well, balls
[02:05] <CJS3141> In Synaptic what exactly is the difference between "Mark for removal" and "Mark for complete removal"?
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> i seem to have encountered a strange bug in ubuntu 8.04's NFS booting
[02:05] <bazhang> graft: it is the size it is; I prefer to uninstall it and use command line--you are free to do so as well
[02:05] <oriez> after upgrading i don't have sound at all
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> specifically, after it boots from the network, it freezes after loading squashfs
[02:05] <philip__> lol, wtf?!
[02:05] <the_darkside_986> why does my whole system keep lagging randomly when I'm running only firefox and chatzilla. (well the system claims a package manager is running ...)?
[02:05] <GerbilSoft> it won't unfreeze unless you wait a few minutes, press Ctrl-N, and hit enter
[02:05] <jon_high9000> hello, anybody know of anything strange going on this afternoon such as  failure to access repositories?
[02:05] <bazhang> CJS3141: unisintall and purge
[02:05] <Daedius_> this is taking a bit to get it into pastebin FYI
[02:05] <ben-g> how do i enable my atheros wifi card?
[02:05] <graft> bazhang: comamdnline you mean like if-up etc?
[02:05] <Daedius_> ;))
[02:05] <seamus7> CJS3141 mark for complete removal deletes the configuration files (I think that's the only difference)
[02:05] <telexicon> the_darkside_986, i think there is a bug in firefox that the devs are ignoring
[02:05] <Johnson> whee install cd keeps saying I have logic errors lol, i can't even check disk integrity
[02:06] <bazhang> graft: command line (cli)
[02:06] <InYourBase> jon_high9000: The traffic is really high because so many people are updating
[02:06] <graft> jon_high9000: hardy was just released, load is high, try a mirror
[02:06] <telexicon> firefox freaks out and eats up 70% cpu and thrashes the hard drive often
[02:06] <oddalot> lol
[02:06] <newscane> i'm having some problems with an install of gutsy over floppies (boot from sarge floppies, then grabbing ubuntu's debootstrap)...
[02:06] <sammy> milly1234: mojo: you're probably on your own, more or less. dual monitor setups are almost always completely different as someone else's, they're really hard to debug and troubleshoot.
[02:06] <twinkie_addict> thats why i run opera :)
[02:06] <graft> bazhang: yes, do you mean using ifup eth0, and /etc/network/interfaces? that's too 1990s for me
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, where are you looking at the memory usage?
[02:06] <graft> telexicon: top
[02:06] <ubuntu__> how do i become an ubuntu guru?
[02:06] <vi1985> bazhang: I don't have too much experience setting up os's... When installing Hardy, it prompted me to repartition the hard drive so that space will be allocated to both windows and ubuntu... now when i tried to do it, it threw some unspecified error.
[02:06] <sammy> mojo: that being said, it sounds like you could make a change to your xorg.conf to fix that, have you edited it manually at all?
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, if i look under system manager it shows 2.3MB for network manager
[02:06] <Daedius_> Alright you guys
[02:06] <CJS3141> seamus7, bazhang: Thanks!
[02:06] <Johnson> ubuntu__, lmfao
[02:06] <milly1234> this isn't dual monitor
[02:06] <telexicon> graft, er system monitor
[02:06] <jon_high9000> graft: i tried to load the 7.10 version of Kubuntu
[02:06] <mojo> sammy::  no it is stock, and very sparse
[02:06] <DBautell> ubuntu__, practice
[02:07] <bazhang> graft if you have a support question please ask, otherwise please go to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[02:07] <ubuntu__> im an idiot
[02:07] <sammy> milly1234: sorry, don't know why your nick got stuck in there.
[02:07] <k[5\5]> help update manager  no response when update from 710 to 804??
[02:07] <ubuntu__> can it be done?
[02:07] <dabbill> Exodus, any idea man?
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: helpp :)
[02:07] <Daedius_> here is my pastebin for usb mouse problems where the mouse only works for 3 seconds or so: http://pastebin.com/m18f296
[02:07] <milly1234> probably saw me having problems of a similer nature but only on one display
[02:07] <bazhang> vi1985: could you please specify the error? it would be very helpful
[02:07] <niadh> I've upgraded to hardy today and now my iPod does not work with banshee, what packages do i need to install to fix this?
[02:07] <sammy> k[5\5]: the mirrors are very heavily loaded. try running synaptic package manager and choosing a new mirror to download from in the repositories configuration.
[02:07] <jon_high9000> graft:had a large hang time. never did install.
[02:07] <nickrud> vi1985 try defragging your windows drive first. If you have vista, use the vista disk management tool to shrink your ntfs partition
[02:07] <JoshBP> My updater gets stuck on setting new software channels. It always quits with a network error, but it my network is fine
[02:07] <tomtommy> how do i upgrade to hardy?
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: so i have ubuntu installed on laptop and i have a 22" flat LCD hooked up to it.. when i boot ubuntu with it pluged in.. it shows bunch of nonsesne million different colors.. any ida?
[02:07] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu__, you can do it, the quickest way to start is to hang out here and read through the forums
[02:07] <vanzemaljac> idea*?
[02:08] <oddalot> i feel naked and alone
[02:08] <telexicon> JoshBP, the mirrors are overloaded wait a while
[02:08] <k[5\5]> i've change the mirror to a fast edu net
[02:08] <vanzemaljac> anyone know
[02:08] <Exodus> dabbill: try this xorg.conf on hardy heron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64299/
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> (i've been using ubuntu for a year and a half and i'm nowhere NEAR guru status)
[02:08] <JoshBP> how long.....
[02:08] <graft> jon_high9000: try a different mirror?
[02:08] <vi1985> bazhang, the only thing it lets me do is to either use the entire disc for linux, or create new partitions. Both options require format, which I'm very reluctant to do...
[02:08] <nickrud> tomtommy if you're in 7.10, it will ask you if you want to upgrade
[02:08] <Exodus> dabbill: remember to back up your xorg.conf
[02:08] <sammy> JoshBP: have you tried selecting a new mirror or are you using the default?
[02:08] <telexicon> JoshBP, or you can use an alternate mirror
[02:08] <dabbill> Exodus, aye :)
[02:08] <vanzemaljac> so i have ubuntu installed on laptop and i have a 22" flat LCD hooked up to it.. when i boot ubuntu with it pluged in.. it shows bunch of nonsesne million different colors.. any ida?
[02:08] <k[5\5]> and tried many times
[02:08] <ubuntu__> im downloading hardy now, going to format this 500 gigger and go crazy
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> JoshBP, til they aren't overloaded, that's how long :D
[02:08] <Daisuke_Ido> hard to say really
[02:08] <sammy> mojo: pastebin it somewhere, your xorg.conf - i'll take a look, no promises :P
[02:08] <bazhang> vi1985: you may consider wubi or unetbootin if you are wary of using partitioning tools then
[02:09] <bouma> w00t :P
[02:09] <niadh> !ipod
[02:09] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[02:09] <ed1t> is ubuntu repository slow today?
[02:09] <graft> ed1t: yes, hardy was just released
[02:09] <vanzemaljac> does anyone know how to get external LCD working on ubuntu.. installed on a laptop
[02:09] <sammy> k[5\5]: try letting it auto-find the best mirror. i was skeptical, but it worked wonderfully
[02:09] <bazhang> ed1t: is that a real question?
[02:09] <_alf_> ubuntu__: i've used linux for 10 years. I use it every day at my job and at home and i'm not a guru
[02:09] <ed1t> figured
[02:09] <nickrud> ed1t try looking for a mirror near you
[02:09] <dabbill> Exodus, did you edit my config?
[02:09] <sammy> k[5\5]: also, assume that the fastest mirrors are the ones that are overloaded.
[02:09] <ubuntu__> well then im screwed!
[02:09] <eternal_p> there needs to be a drinking game, a shot when asked about the repos
[02:09] <tanath> for those who need a mirror: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[02:09] <k[5\5]> i can open it in webbroswer in no time
[02:09] <NAiL> Anyone know why I'm suddenly getting slow networking with xen on hardy?
[02:09] <vanzemaljac> anyhonee
[02:09] <bouma> could anyone tell me if i can change the behaviour of the gnome window selector (2.22.0) so that the wheel cycles through all windows not just the windows on the current desktop ???
[02:09] <DBautell> eternal_p, we'd all be dead
[02:10] <eternal_p> lol
[02:10] <tanath> servers are overloaded
[02:10] <_alf_> ubuntu__: i'm here for help now.... no one knows everything
[02:10] <flowbot> anyone using pidgin here? i can't resize my text input box ... anyone else got this problem?
[02:10] <graft> we need to make an ubotu shortcut about mirrors today
[02:10] <k[5\5]> but the updater just no response
[02:10] <sammy> everyone listen to tanath.
[02:10] <ed1t> i meant us.archive.ubuntu.com thats prolly coz of new release
[02:10] <tanath> sammy, bah, no one listens to me :P
[02:10] <eternal_p> flowbot: no, sorry
[02:10] <ubuntu__> i see the community is really cool though
[02:10] <Exodus> dabbill: yes, i posted that correction
[02:10] <DBautell> flowbot, #pidgin, that one's right in their topic
[02:10] <Daedius_> just for information on my non working usb mouse system, its a mac pro if that helps anyone
[02:10] <Exodus> dabbill: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64299/ this should automate certain things, and auto-detect.
[02:11] <flowbot> DBautell: is #pidgin on this server?
[02:11] <IntangibleLiquid> cool, i'm on Hardy now. What's next?
[02:11] <ubuntu__> i need to learn how to install postgresql and create a database
[02:11] <k[5\5]> can i use terminal to update,  and obtain some info about the updating process
[02:11] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: issues or just want to chat
[02:11] <EruditeHermit> join #matlab
[02:11] <KyleK> k[5\5]: theres no fancy gui for text, but you can watch stuff scroll by :)
[02:11] <c0mp13371331337_> k[5\5]-  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:11] <DBautell> flowbot, I'm new to IRC, but it is on freenode, and I don't do anything special to get there from where I am
[02:11] <tanath> ubuntu__, you can install things in synaptic
[02:11] <loufoque> why are the servers so slow lately? Is it because of the hardy release?
[02:11] <jac0b> are the ubuntu servers slow for anyone else?
[02:12] <whonicca> why cant i play any videos on hardy heron, totom, and mplayer
[02:12] <whonicca> =\
[02:12] <iznuics> loufoque: yep
[02:12] <tanath> ubuntu__, and you can find guides on google
[02:12] <ubuntu__> yeah i use terminal and sometimes synaptic
[02:12] <tehquickness> Is there a way to see which programs are reading/writing to the harddrive??
[02:12] <mojo> sammy::  http://pastebin.com/m503d8f0e  is my xorg.conf (stock hardy with fglrx)
[02:12] <KyleK> jac0b: lol
[02:12] <bazhang> loufoque: could be
[02:12] <jon_high9000> graft: Thanks for the heads up. im glad it isnt my computer. i will try your suggestion tomorrow morning. do you think morning would be better to reinstall?
[02:12] <nickrud> loufoque jac0b check the /topic
[02:12] <flowbot> DBautell: yeah, is cool .... i'm there ;)
[02:12] <Miss_Adriana_Ber> synaptic is frozen
[02:12] <IntangibleLiquid> ﻿bazhang: I made a life-threatening bet, re-structuring the entire partition table with Disk Test. Thanks god I'm still alive
[02:12] <tanath> ubuntu__, ok, well you can use aptitude or apt-get
[02:12] <ubuntu__> i got the ubutun 7.10 bible, pretty cool
[02:12] <vi1985> bazhang, that's the problem that the error was unspecified. I'll try running a partitioning tool in my XP, and see what comes of it. Thanks!
[02:12] <sammy> jac0b, loufoque: go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[02:12] <niadh> Can someone help me get my iPod to work with the hardy version of banshee?
[02:12] <Arnos> hi, I have a problem, I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 to a USB, it boots, but when I log in it just shows the brownish screen and nothing happens.  Please help!
[02:12] <graft> jon_high9000: hard to say... i bet this will last at least for the next few days
[02:12] <k[5\5]> i click the update button on the manager panel
[02:12] <ubuntu__> yup apt-get install or apt-cache search right?
[02:12] <ben-g> can someone help me with an atheros card?
[02:12] <loufoque> nickrud: i've had bad experience with local mirrors
[02:12] <tomd123> servers ARE slow because everyone is trying to get their information... It's like stuffing down giant amounts of information down a series of tubes!
[02:12] <blbrown> Well, I upgraded, that was easy
[02:12] <dabbill> Exodus, rebooting to test
[02:12] <bazhang> Arnos: give it a lot of time--->it will be very slow
[02:12] <mojo> sammy::  i am looking into trying aticonfig cmdline tool with --initial=dualhead and winging it from there if you don't have any better advice.
[02:12] <jac0b> sammy: thanks
[02:13] <moDumass> hmm, debconf?
[02:13] <rich_freecomm> I want to start a new channel '#fed_up_with_trying_to_get_my_nickname_to_work'
[02:13] <RodGo> :'(
[02:13] <RodGo> servers are soooo slooow
[02:13] <nickrud> loufoque I've had the opposite (but I use just a couple universities)
[02:13] <yaris12346789> anyone know a open source tool to split videos ?
[02:13] <RodGo> :'( am waiting for hours
[02:13] <moDumass> !debconf
[02:13] <ubotu> debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure
[02:13] <IntangibleLiquid> cannot reload my Add and Remove, too slow
[02:13] <Arnos> bazhang: why will it be very slow?
[02:13] <mojo> rich_freecomm::  when you get one, be sure to register it so you can use nickserv to enforce it.  there can be only one ;)
[02:13] <MachinTrucChose> hiya
[02:13] <k[5\5]> sudo apt-get dist upgrade did't work when crossing version
[02:13] <tomd123> RodGo: if your downloading the cd, get it through bittorrent and save everyone some hassle
[02:13] <_ZeuZ_> do I need to restart amarok to apply the themes?
[02:13] <whonicca> how come all videos i try to play are in slow mo, and then eventually freeze up
[02:13] <jon_high9000> graft: i understand. no problem.
[02:13] <RodGo> iv just installed it
[02:13] <RodGo> am downloading some packets trough synaptics
[02:13] <bjbum> anyone have experience with running vent through wine? i've got most things working except I can only hear 1 voice at a time >.<
[02:14] <IntangibleLiquid> also, cannot disable the touchpad with function key, how to do this manually?
[02:14] <rich_freecomm> mojo: I have
[02:14] <sammy> mojo: that's always a good idea, especially after an upgrade. it's taken me 50 little steps to get my video where I want it, I dread the update :(
[02:14] <nickrud> k[5\5]  do-release-upgrade is the preferred command line technique
[02:14] <bazhang> Arnos: from usb key? you may want to visit eeepc channel for more info on such meta-questions
[02:14] <lopin> I can't upgrade off of the cd
[02:14] <_alf_> what does this mean:  gimp-python: Depends: gimp (= 2.4.0~rc3-1ubuntu7) but it is not going to be installed
[02:14] <rich_freecomm> mojo: won't let me use the one I registered
[02:14] <RodGo> and its taking hours :'(
[02:14] <lopin> It's locking up
[02:14] <KyleK> hey will ubuntu install onto a raid now?
[02:14] <c0mp13371331337_> k[5\5]-  You'll need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change every instance of 'gutsy' to 'hardy'.
[02:14] <MachinTrucChose> anyone else have this problem? My wifi works, but after I reboot, it doesn't work. I'm thinking it's gotta be a permissions thing, I had the same problem in 7.10. I'm sure the fine people at Canonical didn't ship it with a Network-Manager that doesn't work with wifi cards, so can anyone recommend a fix (other than installing 3rd party apps like Wicd)
[02:14] <Danikar> Hey does Hardy have Firefox 3 Beta installed by default?
[02:14] <niadh> Danikar: Yes
[02:14] <tomd123> RodGo: go to the sources, choose other in sources, and click the button that says, choose best server, you'll be surprised how much faster it will go!!! I downloaded packages at 400KB/s during peek hours :P
[02:15] <lopin> Danikar: Yes...
[02:15] <MachinTrucChose> addendum: it doesn't work until I log in as root and "change" the WPA key to what it already is
[02:15] <JPSmon> can someone help me install a soundcard?
[02:15] <ubuntu__> i thought its supposed to be the full version of fox
[02:15] <sammy> mojo: you might end up needing to set some modelines.
[02:15] <iznuics> MachinTrucChose: you might read the release notes.. they have something in there about wifi and network manager.
[02:15] <mijac> how i can  install firefox 2 on ubuntu to use instead of the 3
[02:15] <mijac> ?
[02:15] <niadh> ubuntu__: It ain't out yet
[02:15] <k[5\5]> chang it manually ?  but there already a button on the update manager
[02:15] <nownot> why once install phpmyadmin its not allowing me to connect via localhost/phpmyadmin
[02:15] <k[5\5]> ok thank you!
[02:15] <MachinTrucChose> iznuics: I had the same problem with 7.10, which I got around by installing Wicd.
[02:15] <tomd123> mijac: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[02:15] <ubuntu__> oh i thought it was going to be ready in time for 8.04
[02:15] <bazhang> mijac: through synaptic
[02:15] <mijac> thank you master
[02:15] <mijac> ?
[02:15] <lopin> Anyone know why the cdromupgrade is locking up?
[02:15] <ubuntu__> don't you have to do sudo apt-get remove firefox-3 first though?
[02:15] <mijac> do someone has a toshiba sattelite ?
[02:15] <RodGo> tomd123: ty, ill give it a try
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> mijac: I do
[02:16] <RodGo> :( feel like a dumb here waiting for hours
[02:16] <niadh> ubuntu__: Nope, read somewhere it may be upgraded later once 3 is officially out, but i think they're playing it by ear
[02:16] <dabbill> Exodus, still poped up with the low-graphics mode
[02:16] <bazhang> ubuntu__: not needed
[02:16] <mijac> ok
[02:16] <ubuntu__> i hate my toshiba satellite stolen if that counts
[02:16] <mijac> I bought it today
[02:16] <jason> can i update with the ubuntu live cd?
[02:16] <telexicon> whats up with firefox 3? it lags the system really bad
[02:16] <mijac> but for example
[02:16] <mijac> I can not activate the wifi
[02:16] <sebastien> '/ctcp babyseoul xdcc send #2'
[02:16] <bazhang> jason: no need alternate
[02:16] <kenan> whenever i log into ubuntu my panels and windows all glow a random colour. How do i disable my windows and panels from glowing?
[02:16] <mijac> at least I can not see wifi
[02:16] <mojo> RodGo::  go to System - Administration - Software sources, choose Download From "Other..." and click the "Select Best Server" button.  It will speed test them all.  Be sure to select your country in the list before hitting the button, so it only speed-tests those.
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> telexicon: not all systems, it runs smooth if you compiled it yourself
[02:16] <tomd123> telexicon: it's a beta, it's not even an rc, so don't expect it to be perfect
[02:16] <ubuntu__> you bought my stolen toshiba satellite?
[02:16] <nownot> ok how do i completely unisntall phpmyadmin besides apt-get remove phpmyadmin
[02:16] <DBautell> lopin, someone said earlier that you need to run it with the full path: /mnt/media/upgradeubuntu , rather than ./upgradeubuntu
[02:16] <jason> i just downloaded the iso
[02:16] <_ZeuZ_> thing is the xmlrunner
[02:16] <sebastien> ctcp babyseoul xdcc send #2
[02:17] <lopin> Okay, thanks
[02:17] <Ertyle> sebastien: stop that
[02:17] <OrTigaS> .
[02:17] <ubuntu__> firefox 3 rocks pertty good over here
[02:17] <Exodus> dabbill: ok, now there's another step
[02:17] <Kr0ntab> nownot: sudo apt-get purge phpmyadmin
[02:17] <MachinTrucChose> I thought Flash was supposed to work out-of-the-box on HH?
[02:17] <jason> i jsut downloaded the iso andi  have gustsy gibbon
[02:17] <niadh> _ZeuZ_: You mean XULRunner?
[02:17] <sammy> nownot: that should completely remove any files that you didn't create yourself. do you mean dependencies?
[02:17] <JoshBP> would the iso be quicker?
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> niadh, yah, sorry typo
[02:17] <telexicon> tomd123, thats not an excuse, and i understand its beta.. but this is not just a little quirky issue, this is showstopper, making the whole system unusable, lag
[02:17] <nownot> sammy:  yes
[02:17] <IntangibleLiquid> how do I perform the 3-D cube thing?
[02:17] <criminy> !local
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about local - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <newscane> can someone help me w/ a floppy-based install?  booted from debian sarge floppies, now using debootstrap to get gutsy, and having problems.
[02:17] <mijac> even that the restricted drivers detect an atheros
[02:17] <fevel> i was using the betaversio nd it didnt ask me to upgrade
[02:17] <rich_freecomm> ug....at least THIS server knows my name....
[02:17] <cal_> where is the connection log for ubuntu? i dont see anything that would have to do with my broadband dsl connection in /var/log ... ?? I am losing connection every 10 min or so and need to track down the reason.
[02:17] <corbett> h
[02:17] <Exodus> dabbill: install the "nvidia-settings" package
[02:17] <_ZeuZ_> gotta go, take care guys
[02:18] <tomd123> telexicon: use firefox 2 / opera / epiphany if you don't like it, you have options you know
[02:18] <telexicon> id understand if it was alpha 4, but its beta 5
[02:18] <fevel> how can I tell if If im using a  beta or not??
[02:18] <mijac> ok zeus
[02:18] <dabbill> Exodus, i have it installed
[02:18] <KyleK> uh
[02:18] <P_Kable> Hi, if sudo do-release-upgrade closed unexpectedly, what should I do to relaunch it ?
[02:18] <ubuntu__> says beta
[02:18] <telexicon> yea, that was the response i expected
[02:18] <Exodus> dabbill: well, is your monitor adequetly identified?
[02:18] <KyleK> telexicon: beta means beta not "works"
[02:18] <rich_freecomm> ok, well....I'm not impressed with IRC....It won't even let me use the name I registered yesterday
[02:18] <eternal_p> IntangibleLiquid: you need to install compiz advanced settings, then turn on cube and cube rotation
[02:18] <sammy> nownot: once you remove it, you can run apt-get autoremove. Kr0ntab suggested apt-get purge, I'm not sure if that does the same thing.
[02:19] <aeon17x> holy crap @ crowd
[02:19] <tomd123> telexicon: as I said, you have options
[02:19] <dabbill> Exodus, nvidia-settings says i am not running the nvidia driver
[02:19] <Exodus> dabbill: run nvidia settings as root with sudo, and remember to save to xorg with it
[02:19] <telexicon> KyleK, beta means.. getting close to release candidates, trying to clean up the last few bugs
[02:19] <KyleK> telexicon: even 3.0 final no really it works (TM) is still not stable ;)
[02:19] <IndyGunFreak> aeon17x: always is on a new release day
[02:19] <tomd123> ahh aeon17x is throwing crap at the crowd!
[02:19] <ANTDx1> holy crap back, aeon17x
[02:19] <aeon17x> hola
[02:19] <iznuics> rich_freecomm: what happens when you /nick <registered nick>
[02:19] <DBautell> rich_freecomm, you're not using pidgin, are you?
[02:19] <ubuntu__> geez my connection is slow
[02:19] <aeon17x> haven't gotten the release yet, will do later tonight :-)
[02:19] <ubuntu__> another 3 hours before 8.04
[02:19] <Vorbote> ﻿﻿MachinTrucChose: you probably have a corrupt keyring file. Go into single user mode (sudo telinit 1), change to your home directory (a "su - <yourlogin>" will do), change to .gnome2 and delete the keyrings directory. Reboot and try again. Allow network-manager to access the keyring always when asked. Don't login automatically to your account but login with your password. that'll open the keyring automatically.
[02:19] <ANTDx1> goodl uck...
[02:19] <bazhang> rich_freecomm: why not xchat?
[02:19] <fiz1> hey, i have hardy and i just installed firefox 2, it wont allow me to add any extensions
[02:20] <dabbill> Exodus, when i do sudo nvidia-settings it says " You do not appear to be useing the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file
[02:20] <Exodus> dabbill: you sure you have Driver "nvidia" on the device @ xorg.conf?
[02:20] <Vorbote> !es > aeon17x
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu__: its probabl not your connection, the servers are overwhelmed right now
[02:20] <sammy> rich_freecomm: someone else is probably using it, and freenode doesn't automagically boot people for using someone else's nick until they ask for it back.
[02:20] <nownot> ok need some help phpmyadmin is not cooperating
[02:20] <k[5\5]> i think the only and safe way is to click the "update" button on the update manager
[02:20] <dabbill> Exodus, i am useing the xorg.conf file you pastbin and said to use
[02:20] <ubuntu__> no trust me my connection is crap
[02:20] <ubuntu__> im getting 50-66kb
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> ok, if you say so.
[02:20] <MachinTrucChose> vorbote: I always log in with a password. I'll do the rest of your recommendations. Thanks.
[02:20] <ubuntu__> normally i get 70
[02:20] <ubuntu__> ;-)
[02:20] <twinkie_addict> oh yes the torent is much faster
[02:20] <ubuntu__> but your probably right, a lot of people hitting them hard
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> iznuics: (on that server) rich_freecomm :Nickname is already in use.
[02:21] <Exodus> dabbill: hmm, I think I found the error from your xorg.conf
[02:21] <dracflamloc> ﻿quick question, ﻿the applications menu... is there any way to make the items in the menu vertically smaller? i like small menus...
[02:21] <Exodus> dabbill: let me see.
[02:21] <goat|work> is there a "replace" option in any of the terminal text editors,  i cant find one in nano, does vi or emacs have one?  I'm trying to replace a string with another string in 30 locations in a file
[02:21] <nownot> looks like its in /usr/share how do i access it from locahost?
[02:21] <k[5\5]> ...now i 'm changing gutsy to hardy
[02:21] <Schalken> !upgrade
[02:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:21] <dabbill> Exodus, okay cool.
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> DBautell: I'm using X-chat right now...but I have pidgin loaded
[02:21] <k[5\5]> manually
[02:21] <rich_freecomm> sammy: even after I registered it?
[02:21] <nickrud> rich_freecomm if you have the nick registered, do /nicksrerv ghost nick password
[02:21] <Gman99999> is there a default laptop powersaver utility for chagning the frequency of the processor installed in ubuntu by default like there is in kde?
[02:21] <DBautell> rich_freecomm, yeah, ok, pidgin sucks at IRC. try /ghost NAME pwd
[02:21] <nickrud> rich_freecomm er, nickserv , a typo there
[02:21] <iznuics> ubuntu__: I've got a good connection and only getting 80kbs .. normally on the mirrors I get in the hundreds.. it's just a busy day!
[02:21] <welshdrago1> anybody know how to get wireless working in hardy with an Atheros AR242x? i have the drivers, but no connections show
[02:22] <sammy> rich_freecomm: it's a setting each irc network can choose for themselves. some of them do, some of them don't, even after you registered it.
[02:22] <bazhang> welshdrago1: does ifconfig show three entries or two
[02:22] <crimsun> telexicon: bug 215728
[02:22] <iznuics> rich_freecomm: what nick did you register?
[02:22] <thenetduck> Hi can someone help me understand Landscape?
[02:22] <telexicon> crimsun, yeah im reading it
[02:22] <sammy> rich_freecomm: you can always ask for it back when you log in, which is what I've been doing for.. however many years now :)
[02:22] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:22] <welshdrago1> bazhang: 2 secs...
[02:22] <niadh> Does anyone know why my iPod might not work with banshee after upgrading to hardy, despite me having podsluth installed?
[02:22] <Arnos> Does anyone know how long it should take to load 8.04 from USB?
[02:22] <ubuntu__> well thanks IZNUICS makes me feel better.
[02:23] <kneeki> *wave*
[02:23] <iznuics> ubuntu__: :)
[02:23] <Exodus> dabbill: no it's actually we constructed, run "lsmod | grep vidia" in a console, does anythin appear?
[02:23] <bazhang> niadh: amarok works fine here; never tried banshee though
[02:23] <keenish27> anyone know how to get dual displays working on hardy?
[02:23] <welshdrago1> bazhang: 2
[02:23] <niadh> bazhang: Not a great KDE fan, hence the banshee thing
[02:23] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger,
[02:23] <rich_freecomm> nickrud: well..now the account was killed...of course I assume that killed my OP for the channel as well
[02:23] <Millertime_018> bazhang: i cant get any updates or new installs cuz the downloading stops at a certain file number! what should i do?
[02:23] <telexicon> this is an unfortunate situation for the default browser for an LTS release to be in
[02:23] <bjbum> anyone have experience with running vent through wine? i've got most things working except I can only hear 1 voice at a time >.<
[02:23] <bazhang> welshdrago1: is that the one that uses madwifi
[02:23] <dbristow> damn it, I keep getting a md5sum mismatch on wubi.exe, I get three identical copies of the file from major mirrors, yet the same mirrors MD5SUMS lists a different md5sum for just that file, all the *.isos are fine
[02:23] <mgmz> hi, anyone know if i can run wine with "hotspot shield" or know a similar linux prog???????
[02:23] <shadfc> can i use the 8.04 CD to upgrade
[02:24] <nownot> ??
[02:24] <niadh> shadfc: Yes
[02:24] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, yt?
[02:24] <twinkie_addict> nice 504 k trandsfer :)
[02:24] <nickrud> rich_freecomm doesn't kill the account, just the user of the nick. then you can /nick nick, and then /nickserv password <pass>
[02:24] <kneeki> This is a tad silly, but how do I go about getting all 4 desktops (for my cube) to show? Atm, I only have 2 desktops, and the cube looks all flat, like a piece of paper. =p
[02:24] <KyleK> telexicon: better than LTS being stuck with firefox 2 for a long time
[02:24] <fevel> hey... how cn I update my beta hardy?
[02:24] <Millertime_018> kneeki: right click the windows that are already there
[02:24] <iznuics> shadfc: just the alternate from what I've read
[02:24] <freeksh0w86> hmm, everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this?
[02:24] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:24] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: ..what?
[02:24] <bazhang> niadh: kde apps run fine in gnome; gtkpod or rhythmbox should do well in gnome though if you are a purist
[02:24] <KyleK> kneeki: turn on more virtual desktops probably
[02:24] <MachinTrucChose> what are the best IRC clients for Linux? Pidgin is horrible, it's like the absolute bare minimum required to use IRC.
[02:24] <nownot> ok need some help phpmyadmin is not cooperating  looks like its in /usr/share how do i access it from locahost?
[02:24] <telexicon> KyleK, right, browser that doesnt work instead of old browser
[02:24] <nickrud> fevel just start the upgrade-manager
[02:24] <ubuntu__> what distribution of linux do corporations use for servers?
[02:25] <telexicon> makes sense to me
[02:25] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, wtf... goddamnit #googoog
[02:25] <kneeki> oh?
[02:25] <Vorbote> kneeki: right-click on the workspaces applet and edit the preferences.
[02:25] <dabbill> Exodus, no i dont see nvidia under lsmod
[02:25] <dbristow> MachinTrucChose: I like xchat
[02:25] <mgmz> synaptic is not working, how come i cant fetch any files????????????????????
[02:25] <nickrud> nownot  go to localhost/phpmyadmin , you should see it
[02:25] <sammy> ubuntu__: redhat and those with 'certifications' because corporations like little sheets of paper
[02:25] <supersako> i am trying to dual boot and virtualize... basically i want to have windows vista and linux dual booted and then in linux be able to open windows in a VM or boot into Windows if i have to...
[02:25] <keenish27> anyone know how to get dual displays working in hardy?
[02:25] <mgmz> ahh
[02:25] <DBautell> MachinTrucChose, xchat
[02:25] <niadh> Bazhang: Not a purest, i use K3b more than gnome burners, but banshee is prefered media player
[02:25] <KyleK> telexicon: what is your problem anyways? I'm only havign issues with its autocompletion, brings up porn to the top all the time :(
[02:25] <welshdrago1> bazhang: i didn't know madwifi supported hardy?
[02:25] <kneeki> Ah ha! That was it =p
[02:25] <iznuics> ubuntu__: red hat, suse, ubuntu (up and coming)
[02:25] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: why didn't you just pm me?
[02:25] <jordanjay21> mgmz: it's probably slow, just keep trying or wait
[02:25] <kneeki> I knew it was something horribly simple
[02:25] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - whicj ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widowqs
[02:25] <nownot> nickrud: yeah its not htere
[02:25] <mgmz> j
[02:25] <mgmz> kk
[02:25] <fevel> nickrud,  It says the system is up to date,  but firefox is still beta
[02:25] <c0mp13371331337_> MachinTrucChose-  BitchX is nice, if you're a fan of the command line.
[02:25] <goat|work> anyone know of a "find and replace" option in any of the terminal text editors,  i cant find one in nano, does vi or emacs have one?  I'm trying to replace a string with another string in 30 locations in a file
[02:25] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, #googoog for explanation lol
[02:25] <jordanjay21> mgmz: I had the same problem a few minutes ago
[02:25] <KyleK> MachinTrucChose: I'm using irssi :)
[02:25] <ubuntu__> stupid little pieces of paper
[02:25] <mgmz> okay
[02:25] <telexicon> KyleK, it eats up 70% CPU and thrashes the disk a ton, making my whole system unusably slow
[02:25] <nickrud> nownot is the config in /etc/apache2/conf.d ?
[02:25] <twinkie_addict> irssi is my fave
[02:25] <Arnos> If I had to use the alternate installer to install to USB can that make my desktop not load fully?
[02:25] <Vorbote> MachinTrucChose: irssi sets the bar for the terminal and x-chat for the graphical desktop IMO.
[02:25] <ubuntu__> oh so they actually do use ubuntu?
[02:25] <dracflamloc> again.. ?? ﻿quick question, ﻿the applications menu... is there any way to make the items in the menu vertically smaller? i like small menus...
[02:25] <sjovan> hey, som one got a linux wiki to recomend? i have a howto on how to split movies with mplayer and made a script to make it easyer, and a howto take X screenshots of a movie, put it to gether on X colums on a picture (an some other functions)  and made an enhacment for the vcs-script to do that.
[02:26] <KyleK> telexicon: cool
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, howdy, for password I use.. recover then release then identify...
[02:26] <nickrud> fevel firefox is beta, till june or so
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> nickrud: -NickServ- [rich_freecomm] has been killed
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> --- rich_freecomm :Nickname is already in use.
[02:26] <MachinTrucChose> comp: thanks, but no thanks. I'll go with DB's recommendation ;)
[02:26] <rich_freecomm> *slap to niggin*
[02:26] <Danaman5> Does anyone know why there are a bunch of update packages that I still can't download?
[02:26] <KyleK> goat|work: vi does, dunno how to do it, also theres always using sed
[02:26] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow you know more than I do, rich_freecomm talk to Jack_Sparrow
[02:26] <_alf_> telexicon: how much ram do you have total?
[02:26] <k[5\5]> !wow I like this place!
[02:26] <iznuics> ubuntu__: starting to .. trying to get sun certification or something like that.
[02:26] <jordanjay21> any good GUI-based Irc clients?
[02:26] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:26] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: no?
[02:26] <telexicon> _alf_, its not swapping
[02:26] <freeksh0w86> everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this?
[02:26] <jedimasterk>  I am having trouble using the live cd iso. When I boot I get (initramfs) blinking cursor. Tried to burns from two different mirrors. No luck. Should I try an upgrade from alternate cd instead.
[02:26] <ubuntu__> i see
[02:26] <telexicon> _alf_, it does it on every page, even if i just leave it on google after a while it starts up
[02:26] <nownot> nickrud:  yes there is a file named that
[02:26] <niadh> jordanjay21: XChat is good enough
[02:26] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, wait... you know who this is right? This is... Josh, amirite
[02:26] <Exodus> dabbill: that means your nvidia driver isn't loading
[02:26] <_alf_> telexicon: it is strange behavior
[02:27] <samalex> hey guys ..  anyone else installing Ubuntu 8.04 right now ? :)
[02:27] <rconan> what's the deal with the missing dmraid package on the mirrors?
[02:27] <ubuntu__> what did ubuntu use for a browser before firefox?
[02:27] <sammy> jedimasterk: isn't there a 'verify this cd' option on the boot splash of the cd? that should be an easier way to verfity your cd. and, yes, you apparently *have* to upgrade from the alternate cd
[02:27] <_alf_> telexicon: did you do a fresh install?
[02:27] <nickrud> nownot and when you point the browser at http://localhost/phpmyadmin you don't see it?
[02:27] <jordanjay21> niadh: I didn't mean good "enough" :P
[02:27] <Meshezabeel> no more #ubuntu+1 :(
[02:27] <Exodus> dabbill: reinstall your nvidia-glx-new package
[02:27] <iznuics> samalex: probably half the room or more..
[02:27] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: yes, why are you bugging me in here instead of.. you know.. pm
[02:27] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  I'm apt-getting the dist-upgrade right now.
[02:27] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, God damnit. I've been sending PMs to you for the past three hours only to realize that unregistered users can't send PMs because I wasn't checking the server messages LOL
[02:27] <jedimasterk> I did verify it
[02:27] <telexicon> _alf_, people are noting that firefox is clobbering urlclassifier.sqlite
[02:27] <jordanjay21> niadh: I meant "good" as in brilliant.
[02:27] <KyleK> haha
[02:27] <KyleK> jedimasterk: downloaded the same iso twice? thats what checking the md5sum is for ;)
[02:27] <KyleK> jedimasterk: and yea alternate cd sometimes help
[02:27] <niadh> jordanjay21: Pidgin does the job too, but complicated, versus xchat
[02:27] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, thought you were AFK
[02:27] <ubuntu__> hahaha
[02:27] <samalex> I'm installing 8.04 server, and I guess TONS of folks are running updates as hitting the apt-get mirror during install took forever.
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm,    /nickserv help               look at recover then release  before you try to re-identify.. make sure you dont have another instance of your chat client open on another side of the cube etc..
[02:27] <KyleK> recent xchats suck i thought
[02:27] <Millertime_018> can anyone tell me how to view the driver thats being used for my wireless card?
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[02:28] <nownot> nickrud:  that is correct
[02:28] <Arnos> Whats different about the alternate CD?
[02:28] <doug2266778822> what do i need to install to use gdm themes off gnome look im on hardy gnome.
[02:28] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  Yeah, that's usually what happens on Ubuntu Day.
[02:28] <Millertime_018> can anyone tell me how to view the drive thats being used for my wireless card?
[02:28] <nickrud> nownot try restarting apache
[02:28] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: sounds like user error.
[02:28] <niadh> Arnos: Command line install i think
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> !alternative | Arnos
[02:28] <ubotu> Arnos: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[02:28] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, indeed.
[02:28] <telexicon> _alf_, no, ive been running the beta.. and just updating, but two days ago i purged firefox-3.0, xulrunner, flash, and reinstalled them.. it still does this even with a new profile and no add-ons or flash
[02:28] <dabbill> Exodus, okay removed it and reinstalled, gonna reboot
[02:28] <ind1g0zzling> Whtiger, is Matt on?
[02:28] <samalex> c0mp13371331337_: I had just installed 7.10 on my home server 2 days ago (new install), so went ahead and started from scratch.
[02:28] <jedimasterk> Checked modsum and burned two different iso's everything was fine
[02:28] <Whtiger> ind1g0zzling: ..pm me =\ this really isn't the place.
[02:28] <Arnos> would useing the alternate CD be likly to help my problem of 8.04 not loading from USB?
[02:28] <_alf_> telexicon: then you've checked everything i could possibly blame
[02:29] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:29] <ubuntu__> so to those that use linux daily whats your take on this hardy 8.04?
[02:29] <GhostShell> hi, happy ubuntu upgrade day everyone :D
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: boot from usb?
[02:29] <freeksh0w86> I have trackerd essentially disabled, but everytime i launch a new process, the CPU goes crazy and everything lags including basic mouse movement. what could possibly be the cause of this? does anyone else experience this issue? i'm going to buy a system with a quad-core CPU eventually for this.
[02:29] <Danaman5> Why are there so many upgrade packages that I can't install?
[02:29] <jedimasterk> Never had problems with Live CD's in the past
[02:29] <jordanjay21> ubuntu__: that'd be better question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:29] <Arnos> Yes, you can put Ubuntu on a USB
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> ubuntu__, discussion in #Ubuntu-offtopic thanks.. this is the support room
[02:29] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: you wish to install from USB?
[02:29] <nownot> nickrud:  didnt work
[02:29] <samalex> ubuntu__: I use Ubuntu Server daily, and it's nice ... butyou're probably looking for Desktop users :)
[02:29] <ANTDx1> ubuntu__, i havent had a chance to use it yet.
[02:29] <Gman99999> I feel the new upgrade is great
[02:29] <Arnos> no, I installed to USB
[02:29] <isdepopecath> Hi, I have a question about switiching to Ubuntu. I'm a long time Windows user, so am hesitant about changing my OS. I'd like to download Ubuntu and try it out, but my only current machine is my laptop, running Vista. Is there any way for me to install Ubuntu, try it, and, if I don't like it, go back to my original OS without losing anything?
[02:29] <CaptainMorgan> just attempted to start the install... it hangs after making a selection from the install menu right after startup.... is this a hardware issue? supposedly Hardy heron has already run smooth on other's systems identical to mine... maybe the CD is bad? no matter which option is chosen from the menu it's as if the CD drive stops working(which I know works fine otherwise) and then nothing happens and also I can't make another sele
[02:29] <Arnos> from the CD
[02:29] <iznuics> ubuntu__: if it's anything like the last LTS version (Dapper Drake 6.06) it'll be just fine..
[02:29] <nickrud> nownot a sec while I check my install
[02:29] <Gman99999> it seems to work faster on my laptop
[02:29] <black_13> is bad if the install of ubuntu server is stuck at 40% (scanning mirror) ?
[02:29] <c0mp13371331337_> samalex-  Yeah, I'm TRYING the dist-upgrade method.  It's never worked for me in the past, not once, but I figure it's got to one of these times.... ;-)
[02:29]  * Mimi asks: Guys does "DISPLAY=: 0  to 7" mean get gettys?
[02:29] <JoshBP> Wow! Using a different mirror is fast
[02:30] <jordanjay21> isdepopecath: try wubi, it's on the Ubuntu 8.04 live disc
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: probably the alt cd will not do much better.
[02:30] <samalex> c0mp13371331337_: I've done it successfully on Server, but tried and failed once on Desktop.  That was a few versions ago though./
[02:30] <rich_freecomm> Jack_Sparrow: on this server my name is ok...but not on FreeNode
[02:30] <ubuntu__> wow i got more then i bargined for :(
[02:30] <Arnos> now I am trying to boot from just the USB.  I can login but then it just shows the background and nevers gets to the desktop
[02:30] <Zelta> the day people start recommending wubi is the day I...
[02:30] <deadend> ubuntu__: So far I like it now that it has been stable for the last week or so. A few problems to sort out here and there mostly due to my config.
[02:30] <Zelta> wait, nvm
[02:30] <[T]-Rex> is it possible to put my ubuntu on my uSB drive and use it at a friends house?
[02:30] <Arnos> bummer
[02:30] <bazhang> isdepopecath: yes wubi or unetbootin
[02:30] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm, should work the same there.
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: how big is your USB? > 4gb?
[02:30] <samalex> For me, I guess I'm gunshy from the MS world with OS upgrades... I'd rather do a clean insta..
[02:30] <sammy> !dualboot | isdepopecath
[02:30] <ubotu> isdepopecath: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:30] <iznuics> rich_freecomm: you're on freenode
[02:30] <Arnos> 2GB
[02:30] <Arnos> no 4GB
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: ouch. that is tight.
[02:30] <nownot> nickrud:  are your phpmyadmin files located in /usr/share?
[02:30] <unop> Mimi, not really .. the display manager sets this up for you, and there can be multiple displays per VT
[02:31] <sammy> oh that didn't work. wasn't it a pipe?oh. no it wasnt
[02:31] <Arnos> 4GB is tight?
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: oh 4gb is better.
[02:31] <isdepopecath> thanks guys.
[02:31] <rich_freecomm> Jack_Sparrow: is rich_freecomm_'s me over there
[02:31] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: did you make sure not to included swap space?
[02:31] <Arnos> I used the auto partion tool
[02:31] <Skuller> Hey guys. I wanted to deploy Gutsy on my school's library PC's for web surfing. There are three. When I pop in the cd and boot from it and select 'install' at the main menu, it gives an error and comes to a command prompt style interface with busybox written on top. Any idea what's wrong?
[02:31] <Arnos> that should have made a swap... shouldn't it have?
[02:31] <unop> why is floodbot flooding the channel? :>
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> rich_freecomm, Im sure you will work it out.. but it really isnt a support issue for here
[02:31] <chibi_killstick> has anyone encountered this error after updating?
[02:31] <nickrud> nownot hm, it's working here. http://localhost/phpmyadmin/ . And yes, with the config in /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf pointing to /etc/phpmyadmin.conf
[02:31] <JoshBP> I keep having an error while upgrading!  It says it can't find an expected entry when setting sources
[02:31] <Mimi> unop:  thanks .. mmmmm the reason Im wondering is I saw a guide online to run a wine game on its own X server (not the existing gnome) (and if youre wondering why im not asking at #wine its because no one's there ;P )
[02:31] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:31] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone assist ?
[02:32] <samalex> Just curious, anyone else installing Server or is everyone pretty much doing Desktop?
[02:32] <ng0n> sda1   sdb1
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: I would be better to manual parttion andnot included a swap space. just / (root)
[02:32] <Mimi> !ask | CaptainMorgan
[02:32] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:32] <mincom> who has yodm 3d
[02:32] <Gman99999> anyway to change your processor performance levels on a laptop in gnome in ubuntu?
[02:32] <iznuics> samalex: downloading server now.
[02:32] <Vorbote> ﻿Gman99999: you need to set up the parameters of the cpu governor. Check /etc/init.d/powernowd and /etc/default/rcS (for actual settings). Don't touch it until you are sure you know what you are doing!
[02:32] <criminy> !sources
[02:32] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[02:32] <Arnos> so, swap is bad on a USB?
[02:32] <criminy> !sources.apt
[02:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sources.apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:32] <GhostShell> Gman99999: install "laptop-mode", then use it
[02:32] <samalex> iznuics: nice...  I ahd to do it via bittorrent, and only took about 30 minutes.
[02:32] <JoshBP> !test
[02:32] <ubotu> Failed.
[02:32] <deadend> Skuller: are you using the desktop install or the alternate disks
[02:32] <dabbill> Exodus, still not showing Nvidia on lsmod
[02:32] <samalex> doing via HTTP was taking forever.
[02:32] <k[5\5]> updating....
[02:32] <criminy> I just hosed my system and need a gatech sources.apt
[02:32] <doug2266778822> when i go to system admin, then login window it wont open how can i fix this?
[02:32] <solace> Help.
[02:33] <solace> Lol.
[02:33] <iznuics> samalex: I've got an hour left. :(
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> Jack_Sparrow & nickrud: Thank you!!! it works now.....ug
[02:33] <Skuller> deadend: desktop
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: preferably swap is not desired on small disk spaces.
[02:33] <nickrud> !gutsysources | criminy (works in hardy too)
[02:33] <ubotu> criminy (works in hardy too): gutsysources is in System->Admin->Software Sources, enable (main) (universe) (restricted) and (multiverse) and disable the Cdrom on the Ubuntu Software tab. On the Updates tab, enable (gutsy-security) and (gutsy-updates).
[02:33] <solace> How do I update from beta to full release?
[02:33] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to fix this error?
[02:33] <JoshBP> should i use the alternate cd instead of network?
[02:33] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:33] <dabbill> Exodus, still got the low-graphics warning when login in also
[02:33] <Jack_Sparrow> glad to hear it
[02:33] <Odd-rationale> solace: run an update
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> heh but now I'm rich_freecomm_ here..heh!
[02:33] <nownot> nickrud:  i dont have /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.con you mind pasteing that file so i can create
[02:33] <cal_> wh
[02:33] <solace> It does it automaticly?
[02:33] <Arnos> so do I just make one partition then?
[02:33] <cal_> where is the 64bit torrent
[02:33] <samalex> iznuics: try downloading via bittorrent and see if it goes quicker.. justa suggestion.  I started http download and after 20 minutes and it saying 2 hours left I kicked off a bittorrent download -- 30 minutes later I was instaling.
[02:33] <CaptainMorgan> Mimi spare me the patronization - I already asked my question
[02:33] <evilbug> how can i upgrade to hardy via the alternative cd?the main boot menu offers no "update" option.
[02:33] <rpedro> !slow
[02:33] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[02:33] <rich_freecomm_> Jack_Sparrow so..how do I get them BOTH without the _ :D
[02:33] <Exodus> dabbill: do you get the nvidia logo?
[02:33] <JoshBP> I am still having trouble updating. Is it better to use a cd?
[02:33] <iznuics> samalex: what are you using for a client?
[02:34] <criminy> I can't really get to any desktop.
[02:34] <dabbill> Exodus, nope
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: yes. and make sure that you install grub to the usb drive not the hard drive
[02:34] <rpedro> !slowlikevista
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slowlikevista - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <rpedro> :P
[02:34] <samalex> I downloaded it using Azureus on OSX...  my laptop is an ibook.
[02:34] <nickrud> nownot it's a link to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf , so ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache2.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
[02:34] <criminy> so I have to term it up to get everything back up
[02:34] <Arnos> I have the hard drives unplugged
[02:34] <samalex> buti'm installing it on a Dell system.
[02:34] <Arnos> :)
[02:34] <solace> Okay, I wanna make a CD that I can take to school, and put it in the CD drive, And boot to CD, and it loads ubuntu, instead of installing it.
[02:34] <Pelo> JoshBP, the alternate cd or the dvd , just pop it in and you will be asked if you want to upgrade,  when asked if you want to check for pacakges online say no
[02:34] <solace> How do I go about  doing that?
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> Arnos: cool. that is the way I do it.
[02:34] <kenan> Ever since I installed Hardy Heron, I have this glow that goes around my panels and windows and seem to change colour on every boot, how do I disable them?
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> solace: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/21/upgrading-from-beta-to-rc-and-beyond/
[02:34] <Exodus> dabbill: well, your problem is the graphics drivers aren't loading, /var/log/Xorg.0.log should tell you with more detail why that is
[02:34] <Gman99999> is that hard drive wrecking feature fixed in hardy heron?
[02:35] <samalex> yay, rebooted and logging into.  nice!
[02:35] <Stroganoff> Gman99999 what feature?
[02:35] <evilbug> Pelo- when does it ask me if i want to update?
[02:35] <iznuics> samalex: Is there a download link for bittorrent files on ubuntu.com?
[02:35] <JoshBP> K
[02:35] <telexicon> Gman99999, i dont think that was ever enabled by default in any version
[02:35] <Exodus> dabbill: anyway, try loading it manually with "sudo modprobe nvidia", see if it loaded with "lsmod | grep nvidia" and then restart X with "ctrl alt backspace" you don't have to reboot.
[02:35] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows - its formAtted ntsf
[02:35] <Gman99999> the hard drive spin down one that was all over the news
[02:35] <CaptainMorgan> can anyone assist? I'm sure my question has been long overlooked simply due to the number of visitors talking......
[02:35] <]grimm[> Is there a way to assign mount points to drives (outside of using fstab)?  I was able to set it under properties in Gutsy, but that seems to have changed with the latest version of Gnome and policykit.  On a related note, is there a way to automount internal drives without editing fstab manually?
[02:35] <sammy> iznuics: type /topic
[02:35] <telexicon> Gman99999, yeah.. about that..
[02:35] <JoshBP> !gusty
[02:35] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[02:35] <evilbug> Pelo- because there was only "Install Ubuntu" at the main boot screen.
[02:35] <Exodus> dabbill: besides that I can't help ya from over here :P
[02:35] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: repeat your question
[02:35] <Pelo> kenan, either you have the desktop effects or metacity compositing enabled,  start by checking hte desktip effect,  in the apperance menu ,  it that's not it ask me and I will tell you how to turn off metacity compositing
[02:36] <rich_freecomm_>   /nick no no really, I'm the same person on both areas
[02:36] <deadend> Skuller: The desktop cds have always seemed to be a bit buggy on the install bit. They are handy for showing off ubuntu but at this time not much more then that. Download the alternate install iso, check the md5, burn it then do a disk check, that should solve your problem
[02:36] <goat|work> funny ubotu
[02:36] <CaptainMorgan> just attempted to start the install... it hangs after making a selection from the install menu right after startup.... is this a hardware issue? supposedly Hardy heron has already run smooth on other's systems identical to mine... maybe the CD is bad? no matter which option is chosen from the menu it's as if the CD drive stops working(which I know works fine otherwise) and then nothing happens and also I can't make another sele
[02:36] <Exodus> dabbill: depending on what the Xorg log says about why nvidia isn't loading and it's falling back on vesa, I got no idea =b
[02:36] <JoshBP> !hardy
[02:36] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[02:36] <seamus7> ]grimm[ have you tried the 'mount' applet listed in the panel add to list
[02:36] <dale> if i update my computer to hardy, will it erase my saved files? I have gutsy now
[02:36] <GhostShell> Gman99999: yes, i use spindown. it was only to specific hardware setups
[02:36] <nownot> nickrud:  ok now i have to enable php for apahce
[02:36] <iznuics> sammy: thanks..
[02:36] <JoshBP> how does ubotu work?
[02:36] <Pelo> evilbug,  no , you boot your installed ubuntu and pop the cd/dvd in
[02:36] <sammy> ]grimm[: look into udev rules, you can define mount points based on the information the device gives when it connects.
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> dale: no
[02:36] <JoshBP> !ubotu
[02:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:36] <Ertyle> !topic | cal_
[02:36] <RxDx> does kubuntu come with KDE 3 or 4?
[02:36] <Pelo> JoshBP,  /msg ubotu keyword
[02:36] <evilbug> Pelo- :( i did that too and it just showed me that i have a disc in,nothing popped up.
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> dale: all you files will be in place. But it never hurts to backup
[02:36] <]grimm[> seamus7: I haven't, I will check that
[02:36] <unop> Mimi, hmm, perhaps it's launched like this.  xinit ~/.wine_game_xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest :2  #~/.wine_game_xinitrc should contain the commands to launch the game server, set environment, etc
[02:37] <dale> cool...thanx
[02:37] <nickrud> nownot sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[02:37] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, I'm burning another CD now.. to see if it makes any difference ... :(
[02:37] <Pelo> evilbug, hold on, there is also a command you can use
[02:37] <mojo> How do I add to ubotu's database?
[02:37] <Pelo> !update > evilbug  check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[02:37] <Izzy_> yo
[02:37] <]grimm[> sammy: I was curious is there was a more user-friendly GUI way to do it to make it easy for someone who would be averse to any kind of text editing
[02:37] <Pelo> evilbug,  in those links look for upgrading from cd
[02:37] <Ertyle> !botabuse | rpedro
[02:37] <ubotu> rpedro: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:37] <samalex> finally, they commented out the Ubuntu install CD in the sources.list... I hated that this was always there since I never keep my install CD in thedrive
[02:37] <iznuics> sammy: ah that was for desktop.. I was looking for server.
[02:37] <bazhang> CaptainMorgan: check md5sum on iso; reburn at really low speed; do checkdisk at startup, if all that fails then either get a new iso, reburn again or try the alternate cd
[02:37] <Pelo> !upgrade > evilbug  sorry wrong one
[02:38] <evilbug> Pelo- i saw the main upgrade instructions.'
[02:38] <kenan> Pelo: none of the effects are selected under Appearances>Visual Effects so Im guessing that it has something to do with metacity compositing?
[02:38] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, will do, thanks
[02:38] <JoshBP> !upgrade is slow
[02:38] <nownot> nickrud:  says its alread there
[02:38] <Pelo> evilbug,  it needs to be the alternate install cd or the dvd , not the live cd
[02:38] <JoshBP> !upgrade
[02:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:38] <Millertime_018> does anyone know how to view which drivers are being used
[02:38] <rich_freecomm> ok....I'm back as me...now to test freenode
[02:38] <evilbug> Pelo- i know,i burnt the alternate cd.it has "alternate" in the .iso name.
[02:38] <bazhang> JoshBP: sure; what do you expect release day?
[02:39] <CaptainMorgan> bazhang, checkdisk at startup like all options from the menu ALSO hangs... so I'll try another disk
[02:39] <Millertime_018> drivers!
[02:39] <newscane> o
[02:39] <rich_freecomm> zI give up
[02:39] <Millertime_018> drivers
[02:39] <Millertime_018> !
[02:39] <dabbill> Exodus, FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia. when doing sudo modprobe nvidia
[02:39] <JoshBP> 1
[02:39] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks,i'll just try again tomorrow.
[02:39] <benh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/221626
[02:39] <benh> blah
[02:39] <Millertime_018> how do i view what drivers are being used?
[02:39] <JoshBP> !please tell me about python
[02:39] <benh> stupid postinst script
[02:39] <Pelo> kenan,  ok , open gconf-editor   under /apps/metacity/general,   look for compositing,  it's probably checked   , beware it will probably crash X , it does on mine , ctrl-ald-backspace , to restart X
[02:39] <sean_> tanath: turns out I just needed to install the compiz manager.
[02:39] <meoblast001> hi Pelo
[02:39] <Pelo> hi meoblast001
[02:39] <meoblast001> Pelo: havent seen u in a long time
[02:39] <tanath> sean_, o.O
[02:40] <newscane> i'm trying to debootstrap, and i keep getting messages about "failure trying to run chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc"
[02:40] <tanath> sean_, heh, i'll have to remember that
[02:40] <newscane> ideas?
[02:40] <Pelo> meoblast001, I've been around,  but not has much
[02:40] <ants> jjJJj
[02:40] <sean_> tanath: figures. ::)
[02:40] <meoblast001> Pelo: i havent been around at all
[02:40] <rich_freecomm> I think I'll register several names so that I can use each of them when I can't have only 1 name :P
[02:40] <ants> sorry
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> does anyone have a solution to this error?
[02:40] <Pelo> meoblast001, it's not compulsary
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:40] <chibi_killstick> i get it when i try to run synaptic
[02:40] <seamus7> Millertime_018 proprietary hardward drivers are listed in System/Administration/HardwareDrivers
[02:40] <kenan> Pelo: i wanna keep all my effects on with compiz and such, i just want this annoying glow gone
[02:40] <samalex> hehe, apt-get upgrade = 0 packges :)  Nice ..
[02:40] <bod_> JoshBP, do you now your !upgrade is slow and things is ggetting sent to the ops channel?
[02:41] <Exodus> dabbill: there's the error, it seems the driver wasn't correctly installed. I guess try a "sudo aptitude purge nvidia-glx-new" and update you repository "sudo aptitude update" and then reinstall, besides that you got me beat, my driver just loads, I think maybe your file is corrupt somehow however unlikely that is.
[02:41] <Millertime_018> yea but see, in ubuntu 7.1 my light for my wireless card flashed when in use
[02:41] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, reinstall that package from the command line,   sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall
[02:41] <Millertime_018> now, in 8.04 it doesn't
[02:41] <Millertime_018> it stays off all the time.
[02:41] <ubuntu__> that blows
[02:41] <Roscar> ok, I've got a question. Does Ubuntu release a list of changes since 7.10?
[02:41] <Millertime_018> i was talking about through the terminal
[02:41] <bazhang> Millertime_018: that is it? the light? does the card work?
[02:41] <binarybandit> Millertime_018, think of all the power you're saving!
[02:41] <Pelo> kenan, ask in #compiz then, it's probably just the shadows
[02:41] <meoblast001> Pelo: i bought the new Hardy limited edition shirt today and my mom was all freaked out that Canonical was gonna steal her credit card stuff...... i told her they make my OS
[02:42] <dabbill> Exodus, thanks man i will give that a try
[02:42] <Pelo> Roscar, yes,  go to the website and do a search for changelog
[02:42] <Millertime_018> well i was thinking "thats a change" and i'm not bitching but i think thats why my thing wont update
[02:42] <ubuntu__> meoblast001: hahahahahha
[02:42] <Pelo> meoblast001, LOL
[02:42] <Millertime_018> it will get on the internet, go to websites but wont update
[02:42] <Millertime_018> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:42] <Millertime_018> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:42] <Millertime_018> adam@Millertime-PC:~$
[02:42] <taxman> Roscar: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features is that what you meant?
[02:42] <FloodBot2> Millertime_018: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <mojo> !ubotu
[02:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:42] <Millertime_018> i got that when i ran apt-get update
[02:42] <meoblast001> Pelo: i bet she'd buy something off Microsoft, cuz they use that at her work
[02:42] <JoshBP> Can anyone tell me why it keeps saying it didn't find some apt line when dist-upgrading?
[02:42] <meoblast001> i wont buy SHIT off Microsoft
[02:42] <bod_> !msgthebot | mojo
[02:42] <ubotu> mojo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[02:43] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, run sudo apt-get update
[02:43] <Roscar> pelo: that doesn't work.
[02:43] <f0rmat> i am having problems with the repos after upgrading
[02:43]  * Pelo already suspected that giving away a free OS was just a dastardly skeem to get all of our money 
[02:43] <sean_> Millertime_018: try "sudo killall apt-get"
[02:43] <bazhang> sudo first Millertime_018?
[02:43] <ubuntu__> i hope microsoft and that ceo they have burn in hell
[02:43] <nickrud> nownot been away for a bit, things ok ?
[02:43] <bod_> !language | meoblast001
[02:43] <meoblast001> Pelo: i even go as far as not buying an Xbox and going with PS3 (owns)
[02:43] <ubotu> meoblast001: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:43] <ubuntu__> going to short their stock!
[02:43] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: didn't work.  do you know of any other solutions?
[02:43] <blankhead> man not even in hardy heron could u get a decent refresh rate damn... im stuck at 51hz @ 1440 by 900... isnt there an easy way to get it to 75hz? or at least 70 or 60????????
[02:43] <Pelo> !changelog
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changelog - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <nownot> nickrud:  worked thanks a million
[02:43] <mojo> bod_::  that was partly for JoshBP who shebanged a sentace to the bot
[02:43] <Roscar> taxman: I'm looking for changes since, not features in general. I'm hoping to find out reasons why I should migrate.
[02:43] <Millertime_018> havent used sudo apt-get update, just ran apt-get update one sec
[02:43] <bazhang> ubuntu__: please stop now
[02:43] <meoblast001> oops sorry..... forgot that this isn't Image-Line Collab (where tey have no profane rules)
[02:43] <rich_freecomm> well, I registered rich_freecomm2 but it wouldn't set a password and said it was already registered and wanted a password *slapping head against monitor*
[02:43] <Millertime_018> look! see
[02:44] <Pelo> Roscar, search for release note or notes
[02:44] <bod_> mojo, oh, my bad,. those things JoshPB is writing is bein sent to the ops
[02:44] <dfga1> how do i reinstall grub
[02:44] <Millertime_018> i ran that and the update process stopped halfway through! its like the server just quits on me!
[02:44] <dfga1> !install grub
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install grub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <blankhead> theres instructions on google dffal
[02:44] <seamus7> dfga1 sudo updated-grub
[02:44] <goat|work> rich_freecomm: how about rich_freecomm_ ?
[02:44] <Millertime_018> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hardy-security/multiverse Sources
[02:44] <Millertime_018> 47% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.3)]
[02:44] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, that't the only thing that came to mind,  sorry , maybe someone else knows
[02:44] <seamus7> dfga1 oops I mean sudo update-grub
[02:44] <rich_freecomm> this is too much work to try to get a simple account to work....I'll be on pidgin
[02:44] <mojo> bod_::  np.  btw, know how i add info to ubotu?
[02:44] <Millertime_018> it stops right there
[02:44] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, because hardy just came out
[02:44] <Roscar> pelo: I was looking at the release notes. They give you a list of know problems and issues for upgrading but not a list of changes.
[02:44] <sean_> tanath: hahahha trouble now. compiz manager isn't working. :P
[02:44] <marko-_-> and people are upgrading there system
[02:44] <marko-_-> all over the world
[02:44] <sammy> Roscar: because a lot of your packages are out of date, and newer, tested, 'stable' versions are available that people have released. as long as you're already getting security updates, that's the only reason. it's been either 6 months or a year, so there's probably a good number of fixes and feature updates, probably hundreds? thousands?
[02:44] <bazhang> Millertime_018: today is release day
[02:44] <bbyever> i opened the update-manager and checked for updated and there were none, so i proceeded to upgrade to hardy, and while the upgrade was starting, update-manager said there were 710 updates available. Then a window came up and asked me if i wanted a partial upgrade.. should i do that, or the upgrade to hardy?
[02:44] <marko-_-> you must understand this..
[02:44] <Millertime_018> marko-_-: what does that mean?
[02:44] <tanath> sean_, oi
[02:44] <taxman> ok, does anybody know the correct path at cdimage for hardy? I have the beta and I'd like to rsync so I don't have to waste someone's bandwidth for the whole iso. The script I have to rsync the dailies gets them from rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current what would be the path for the LTS?
[02:45] <caveman26> where can I get a new sources.list? I screwed up my apt and need a new sources.list... for gutsy
[02:45] <tanath> sean_, ccsm?
[02:45] <Stroganoff> blankhead look up HorizSync and VertRefresh in your Xorg.conf
[02:45] <Millertime_018> bazhang: they dont do updates on the release day?
[02:45] <Pelo> Roscar, that's all I have, ask again periodicaly
[02:45] <newscane> i'm trying to debootstrap, and i keep getting messages about "failure trying to run chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc".  ideas?  trying this after booting under floppies from sarge.
[02:45] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to fix this error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:45] <sean_> tanath: yup
[02:45] <bazhang> Millertime_018: be patient
[02:45] <bod_> mojo, yer,. you have to request it in #ubuntu-ops   you used to be able to add things at your leisure butpeople abused it (iirc)
[02:45] <chibi_killstick> i get it whenever i try to run synaptic
[02:45] <marko-_-> that too many people are downloadaing stuff from the server Millertime_018 ... and the server doesn't have a super connection you know
[02:45] <rich_freecomm> goat|work that's nice...rich_freecomm here....rich_freecomm_ there and once those are used...I'll be rich_freecomm_____ on another server :P
[02:45] <tanath> sean_, define "isn't working" :P
[02:45] <sean_> tanath: "This problem report does not apply to a packaged program" (/usr/bin/ccsm)
[02:45] <Millertime_018> oh...
[02:45] <Millertime_018> so... tomorrow?
[02:45] <Millertime_018> or the next day?
[02:45] <seamus7> Millertime_018: it's the same as going to get an iphone the day it's release .... long lines and waiting
[02:45] <marko-_-> i will upgrade in 2 days
[02:45] <mojo> bod_::  so i move to that chan and can add/update the bot?
[02:45] <tanath> o.O
[02:45] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, I had that issue at one point
[02:45] <Millertime_018> ooooh. so will it work after a while?
[02:45] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, sudo apt-get remove  synaptic --purge &&  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:46] <bod_> mojo, no you have to ask the operators to add it
[02:46] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, it will
[02:46] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: what did you do?
[02:46] <marko-_-> try tomorrow
[02:46] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: interesting...let's go for it
[02:46] <binarybandit> on gentoo, but same idea, it was a missing symlink
[02:46] <MachinTrucChose_> does Ubuntu not have a Terminal font? The X-Chat screenshots show it, but it's not in the list. Is it called something else in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <bazhang> the more you ask Millertime_018 the faster it will work
[02:46] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  it,s still fresh ,  give it a week for updates
[02:46] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:46] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:46] <seamus7> Millertime_018: yes ... I've started upgrading to the Release Candidate a few days before the official release just so that I avoid all the web jams
[02:46] <twinkie_addict> ooo its installing :)
[02:46] <Pelo> didy, ask in #winehq
[02:46] <twinkie_addict> wubi is a nice little app
[02:46] <LainIwakura> What does deprecated mean? I see it all the time.
[02:46] <caveman26> I need a new sources.list for kubuntu gutsy, any1 know where I can get one?
[02:47] <Millertime_018> bazhang: sorry for aggravating you lol...
[02:47] <c0mp13371331337_> LainIwakura-  Old
[02:47] <MachinTrucChose_> twinkkie: it certainly is. I got 2 people at work to try Linux because of Wubi
[02:47]  * Pelo eyes the window user suspiciously,  
[02:47] <bod_> caveman26, on the live cd
[02:47] <LainIwakura> c0mp13371331337_: Thanks.
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: did you ever fix it?
[02:47] <seamus7> Lainlwakura: deprecated means it is an older version that will be phased out
[02:47] <Millertime_018> bazhang: my bad
[02:47] <Stroganoff> blankhead: http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[02:47] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[02:47] <caveman26> where?
[02:47] <binarybandit> caveman26, yeah
[02:47] <blankhead> stroganoff ok i did now what do i do in the xorg.conf horizsync verrefresh
[02:47] <genji_> hi everyone
[02:47] <caveman26> I looked on the liveCD
[02:47] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick*
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: meh...still doesn't work
[02:47] <caveman26> couldnt find one
[02:47] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, was awhile back, took some googling
[02:47] <benh> somebody knows how to find the .config used by the kernel on the installer ?
[02:47] <didy> no reply lol
[02:47] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, what is this ?  7.10,  and upgrade ? what ?
[02:47] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:47] <jPratt> !wine
[02:47] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: i tried google and didn't get much of an answer...
[02:47] <bbyever>  i opened the update-manager and checked for updated and there were none, so i proceeded to upgrade to hardy, and while the upgrade was starting, update-manager said there were 710 updates available. Then a window came up and asked me if i wanted a partial upgrade.. should i do that, or the upgrade to hardy?
[02:47] <twinkie_addict> was going to setup astandard dualboot but i read about wubi and thought that might be better knowing vista
[02:48] <ubuntu__> darn "wubi" sounds call
[02:48] <ubuntu__> i started with knoppix
[02:48] <didy> !appdb
[02:48] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:48] <jPratt> !appdb
[02:48] <Pelo> benh, what do you need that for ?
[02:48] <Stroganoff> blankhead: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: actually i'm running andLinux, which basically runs ubuntu inside windows
[02:48] <smallfoot-> when i run "Blender (windowed)" from menu, it runs in fullscreen why?
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> i updated something and borked synaptic somehow
[02:48] <KyleK> twinkie_addict: grub works fine on my laptop
[02:48] <Ubuntong> How can I open a TCP port in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <twinkie_addict> gota reboot
[02:48] <seamus7> bbyever: fully update guts before upgrading to hardy
[02:48] <Tailsfan> Hello, What is a good Wi-Fi Manager
[02:48] <FJSS> my sound quit working. Xine says "the audio device is unavailable check to see if something else is using it" but I have nothing else running. How do I reset the soundcard???
[02:48] <rich_freecomm_> I guess I'll have to put up with not being the same name on BOTH servers
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: i'd like to prevent having to reinstall andLinux, but i think i may be out of luck
[02:48] <Fritzel> what was with the mass kick of ubuntu+1 earlier? is it live time?
[02:48] <ubuntu__> you want a wifi manager?
[02:48] <bazhang> Tailsfan: the command line
[02:48] <Pelo> bbyever, not a good idea to upgrade online today,  the servers are under heavy load,   dl the dvd or the alternate cd iso ,  upgrade from that
[02:48] <ubuntu__> try windows wifi
[02:48] <didy> .......................................
[02:48] <ubuntu__> i heard its really good
[02:48] <KyleK> Fritzel: well hardy is the new official, so yea?
[02:48] <Tailsfan> I'm looking for one what shows the MAC address of non-connected networks
[02:49] <blankhead> stroganoff: what is that link suppose to do?
[02:49] <caveman26> where is the sources.list on the cd?
[02:49] <genji_> I try to run a few commands at startup, putting these in my /etc/rc.local (I also tried rc-update.d myscript default). Some of them are executed, but others  are not (such as "echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs"). It seems like the one I can run using sudo are executed, and the ones requiring a sudo -i are not. Does anyone have a solution? Cheers
[02:49] <benh> Pelo: check if it has CONFIG_VIRTUAL_MMAP=y
[02:49] <Fritzel> ahh good deal
[02:49] <bazhang> ubuntu__: stop it please
[02:49] <Stroganoff> blankhead READ THE HOWTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:49] <bbyever> seamus7: i thought so, so i closed the update windows and when i did so the 710 updates disappeared.
[02:49] <benh> Pelo: it might explain some issues with the PS3 installer
[02:49] <ubuntu__> im just teasing
[02:49] <bazhang> !ot | ubuntu__
[02:49] <ubotu> ubuntu__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:49] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: it's running the 2.6.12 kernel (coLinux version)...no idea as to what version of ubuntu that's correlated to
[02:49] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, this is a virutual machine ?  donT' know about those,  you would be better off with a regular install
[02:49] <Jordanjay29> Having an issue with my Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) wireless card. Checked community wiki, it's not very helpful.
[02:49] <didy> .......................................
[02:49] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, do you have the X use flag set?
[02:49] <binarybandit> oh
[02:49] <sammy> genji_: can you put that line in your sysctl config file? are all of them setting things in proc/sys?
[02:49] <binarybandit> not gentoo
[02:50] <ubuntu__> ok sorry guys, i will leave. ciao
[02:50] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: lol, no
[02:50] <Jordanjay29> This something that, perhaps, might be fixed when update servers are unswamped again?
[02:50] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I just used ndiswrapper with some drivers from compaq
[02:50] <FJSS> can anyone tell me how to reset my soundcard?
[02:50] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: that's another machine
[02:50] <seamus7> bbyever: just do sudo apt-get update and see what hapeens ... do it twice ... then do the hardy upgrade ... but I also recommend downloading the iso  and via bittorrent otherwise expect DELAYS
[02:50] <Pelo> !enter | binarybandit
[02:50] <ubotu> binarybandit: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:50] <genji_> sammy: nope, I also try to modify /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy
[02:50] <rich_freecomm_> I think I'll copy/paste the change each time I wanna say something
[02:50] <sammy> bbyever: seamus7 speaks the truth.
[02:50] <binarybandit> >.<
[02:50] <Pelo> !sound > FJSS
[02:50] <genji_> sammy: I can try, sure
[02:50] <Fritzel> so when does ubuntu+1 get reopened for the next dist
[02:50] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: And that worked well?
[02:50] <bbyever> seamus7: ok i'll download the torrent.
[02:51] <Ubuntong> How can I open port 80 for Apache2?
[02:51] <KyleK> Fritzel: when they start working on the next dist
[02:51] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-644312-highlight-.html?sid=9bd1a51a231fd8669bfd2a85bb4eea35 <-- that's what I used
[02:51]  * r11t is sad. upgrade from 7.10 -> 8.04 has stalled after getting so close to completion
[02:51] <didy> ...............
[02:51] <seamus7> Fritzel lol
[02:51] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: im still fighting with NetworkManager
[02:51] <Ubuntong> How can I open port 80 for Apache2 on my LAN?
[02:51] <binarybandit> wait, no it wasn't
[02:51] <moDumass> hey all, so ive upgraded/dated but i cant turn on restricted spftware sources, and therefor cant turn on desktop effects and therefore cant turn on compizfusion delightfullness
[02:51] <moDumass> any ideas
[02:51] <bazhang> didy: you have a support question?
[02:51] <moDumass> no deskktop effects
[02:51] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: you need to configure port forwarding on your router
[02:51]  * Pelo spent most of his day playing around making a gfxboot theme and a gnome-splash , to fit the rest of the new orange themeing stuff he got 
[02:51] <sammy> genji_: see if putting those /proc/sys changes into sysctl.conf works for you. that's where they're "supposed" to go, I guess.
[02:51] <Fritzel> seamus7, KyleK, -nod- alright just habit of seeing +1 on my channel list
[02:51] <smallfoot-> i installed CCSM,a nd i cant select "custom" in effects in appearance
[02:51] <tinin> !midi
[02:51] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:51] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: sounds promising /sarcasm
[02:51] <FJSS> pelo: I tried !sound but it says event not found
[02:51] <genji_> sammy: OK. I'll try to find out the syntax
[02:51] <didy> Bazhang: im just wondering does darkage of camelot work in wine 0.59!
[02:51] <yell0w> Ubuntong: open firefox, go to 192.168.0.1 , most routers would have their confi there , then set up port forwarding for port 80
[02:52] <Pelo> moDumass, the servers are under heavy load , be patient
[02:52] <Ubuntong> erat123: I only want it open on the LAN side not the public side.
[02:52] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: killall NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher
[02:52] <bazhang> didy: try it and see or join #winehq
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> !alternate
[02:52] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[02:52] <sammy> genji_: the syntax is in the file, or try man sysctl.conf :)
[02:52] <moDumass> Pelo, but the option should be there regardless though right, its not
[02:52] <Pelo> FJSS, check in admin > user , make sure your username has permission to " user sound device"
[02:52] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: but that's the gentoo answer...i need one for ubuntu
[02:52] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: And to restart them?
[02:52] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I may have just needed to tick off a checkbox saying that its open wep though ;)
[02:52] <binarybandit> yeah :/
[02:52] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: oh, then you shouldnt have to configure anything else.  all computers on the same lan should be able to see your computer on port 80
[02:52] <LainIwakura> Can someone help me? I cannot get "sudo pppoeconf" to work? Thanks.
[02:52] <Pelo> moDumass, where are y ou looking ?
[02:52] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, well, all I could reccomend is to reinstall cairo and gtk
[02:52] <soulwarp_> is it possible to upgrade my 7.10-8.04 through the install CD?
[02:53] <moDumass> system preferences
[02:53] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: lol. Private chat work better?
[02:53] <didy> .................
[02:53] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: i did try that and didn't seem to get anywhere...let's try again
[02:53] <Pelo> LainIwakura,  do you have admin priviledge ?
[02:53] <rich_freecomm_> I'll get this eventually....
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: :p The man isn't really helpful (or I missed something), nor are the comments in the file
[02:53] <LainIwakura> Pelo: Yes.
[02:53] <bazhang> alternate cd yes soulwarp_
[02:53] <DBautell> soulwarp_, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[02:53] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I'll see if I have the page I used open
[02:53] <rich_freecomm_>   /nickserv password realpassword    doesn't quite work now
[02:53] <moDumass> Pelo System>preferences used to have "desktop effects" i think, id enable them and things would be fine
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: they tell you how to assign values to specific tokens, but I don't know what the syntax of my token is
[02:53] <Pelo> LainIwakura, when you say you can'T get it to work  ? which part ? command does not start or you get through it but it won't work ?
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: if it's the full path or something else
[02:53] <LainIwakura> Pelo: It finds only two ethernet devices: eth0 and wlan0. In Gutsy, I remember it finding at least 4 devices.
[02:53] <Ubuntong> erat123: Im running wordpress blog on Ubuntu. Localhost works fine but no other workstations on my LAN can connect to it. Any ideas?
[02:53] <soulwarp_> thanks
[02:53] <meoblast001> Pelo: should i be trusting Canonical? lol
[02:53] <bbyever> seamus7: i got this http://pastebin.com/d14c9c401
[02:53] <sammy> genji_: it looks like you just replace the /'s with .'s
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> great... that makes two CDs that hang... apparently the new release doesn't like my hardware or software for that matter.... wtf
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> ftw
[02:54] <meoblast001> Pelo: all i ever got off them in the past was free
[02:54] <tremby> having trouble updating -- are the repositories overloaded at the moment?
[02:54] <Pelo> moDumass, LainIwakura doyou get online ?
[02:54] <psych_> why ubuntu didnt create my swap partition
[02:54] <psych_> i saw it when installing
[02:54] <moDumass> Pelo, indeed
[02:54] <flowbot> hey, i remember seeing a link on planet ubuntu or somewhere about upgrading a Hardy beta image to full release via rsync ... anyone know this link?
[02:54] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, another option is to menacingly hold a vista dvd in front of you computer
[02:54] <Fritzel> ok well synaptic will no longer reload sources it gets stuck  any idea what that's about?
[02:54] <seamus7> moDumass look in System/Preferences/Appearance/DesktopEffectsTab
[02:54] <psych_> like it was about to do it
[02:54] <binarybandit> that should scare it into submission
[02:54] <psych_> but it didnt
[02:54] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: lol!
[02:54] <LainIwakura> Pelo: It says that it cannot find any devices for it to work or something along those lines. That is, it doesn't allow me to enter my username and password. I cannot get online.
[02:54] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows
[02:54] <osmosis> how do I get twinview to work with nvidia_new ?
[02:54] <MachinTrucChose_> If I try to download Konversation (the KDE IRC client), it will download the KDE libraries, right? Does that mean I'm going to have system libraries loaded all the time, increasing my OS memory usage, or just when I'm using Konversation?
[02:54] <genji_> sammy: thanks
[02:54] <Shadow_X> anyone else been having problems with synaptic timing out today?
[02:54] <Shadow_X> rather, just apt, in general
[02:54] <Pelo> moDumass, check that the repos are all enabled in the 1st and 3rd tab of the software sources in the admin menu,   then check for the restricted drvier for your hardware in the admin menu under restricted drivefr
[02:54] <bbyever> seamus7: the second time i didnt get the error messages
[02:55] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: can you ping your web server from another client computer?
[02:55] <caveman26> I tried upgrading... it broke apt, I need a new sources.list and cant find one, some1 said it was on the live cd, but where is it on the cd? I cant find it
[02:55] <bazhang> Shadow_X: nearly everyone
[02:55] <phaedra> Shadow_X, It happens every realease day
[02:55] <Jordanjay29> MachinTrucChose: I just downloaded Konversation and am using it right now. IT doesn't download KDe libraries
[02:55] <FJSS> pelo: I have permission for sound but I still get the "resource busy" error
[02:55] <moDumass> Pelo, you mean  System/Preferences/Appearance/visual effects?
[02:55] <binarybandit> your*
[02:55] <MachinTrucChose_> jorday: OK, thanks
[02:55] <Pelo> LainIwakura, that's a bit over my head , sorry
[02:55] <d33d> I'm looking for help with Atheros 242X drivers...where should I start?
[02:55] <rich_freecomm> ok...temporarily I'm back as rich_freecomm
[02:55] <nxusr> anyone seen thise : "Flash Player: Warning: environment variable G_FILENAME_ENCODING is set and is not UTF-8"
[02:55] <LainIwakura> Pelo: Alright, thanks.
[02:55] <Shadow_X> thats what i thought. i just wanted to make sure it was the servers themselves, not just my machine
[02:55] <moDumass> if i select anything other than "none" it throws up an error
[02:55] <meoblast001> Pelo: im gonna go to school with that shirt when i get it, and everyones gonna say sweet @$$ shirt
[02:55] <rich_freecomm> (until I want to say something on the other server) :D
[02:55] <Pelo> FJSS, where does it say resourse busy ?
[02:56] <Ubuntong> erat123:  yeah, I just figured out that I can open the generic Apache2 site too.  It must be a Wordpress thing?
[02:56] <Shadow_X> im like... 75% done with the amd64 iso of 8.04 FINALLY lol
[02:56] <moDumass> Pelo, "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[02:56] <psych_> should i create swap partition manually when instaling?
[02:56] <Ubuntong> erat123:  Could it be permissions? hmmm..
[02:56] <FJSS> on my music player rythmbox
[02:56] <Auctionedllama> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on my teachers laptop, and all she really uses it for, is to browse the web and to power our "smartboard" projector during school. Now I went to the smartboards website, and got their linux version, and when I went to install it, it said could not install package, but yet the system meets the requirements.. can someone help me out with this? Thanks
[02:56] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp34001-34500/sp34152.exe
[02:56] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: yeah, it must be.  i'm not familiar with wordpress, but i looked it up so now i'm installing it :-)
[02:56] <Pelo> moDumass, what is your video card ?
[02:56] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: that would be a good place to start looking
[02:56] <FJSS> Pelo: on my music player rythmbox
[02:56] <rich_freecomm_> all this cutting and pasting each time is a pain in the butt
[02:57] <Ubuntong> erat123: Wordpress is  pretty awesome.
[02:57] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: is it a blogging tool?
[02:57] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: I have an HP. I know they're the same company, but is that just the driver for Windows from the Compaq site?
[02:57] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: like an editor?
[02:57] <Pelo> FJSS, check in menu > system  > prefs, sound  make sure the audio card is selected for each event
[02:57] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, what kind of pakcage did you get from the site ?
[02:57] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: If that's the case, I know where I can find the driver for my version and computer
[02:58] <Ubuntong> erat123:  yes, and it's easy enough for me to use. That says a lot. :) You'll want to get some templates for it too.
[02:58] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I cant find the page that linked it, but it had a table of which specific ones work with which driver, and I matched the PCI ID
[02:58] <bbyever> seamus7: its also asked me for a restart, so im doing that now...
[02:58] <bbyever> seamus7: thanks
[02:58] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I've also got an HP, DV6624CA :)
[02:58] <GerbilSoft> ok is it just me, or is preseeding completely broken on 8.04
[02:58] <Auctionedllama> it came in a tar.gz,  nd I extracted it, and there was a file just called smartboardinsstallblahblahpackage
[02:58] <Ubuntong> erat123: You'll need PHP and Mysql too
[02:58] <Pelo> GerbilSoft, torrent ? the dvd worked fine here
[02:58] <moDumass> Pelo, geforce fx5950ultra
[02:58] <h00k> I broke my nVidia card already -- apparently.  I had just reinstalled completely. :)
[02:58] <Auctionedllama> and I clicked it, and it ran, etc etc and then said it couldn't install
[02:58] <yago> hi,I'm installing 8.04 and I have a problem, that it shows "Configuring chillispot (1.0-8) ..", and it's stop,
[02:59] <yago>  what can I do?
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> Pelo: i'm setting up a network install for a bunch of systems
[02:59] <FJSS> pelo: everything in the pref/ sound looks good
[02:59] <myf> my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[02:59] <Pelo> moDumass, go to , menu > system > admin > restricted driver
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> ubuntu refuses to recognize that there's a preseed file specified in the kernel command line
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> (it worked on 7.10)
[02:59] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: What website? Is it in your history?
[02:59] <Auctionedllama> pelo, any suggestions?
[02:59] <rconan> anyone had any luck installing hardy onto a fakeraid? I was looking at htis but it seems to go wrong at the partitioning part. The installer treats each partition on my RAID as a disk and makes a partition table for each one
[02:59] <Pelo> GerbilSoft, sorry don'T know about taht one,  I donT' knwo about networkd deployment
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> k
[02:59] <moparisthebest> where can i find a list of package server mirrors?
[02:59] <sammy> GerbilSoft: are you sure debconf didn't eat your menu.1st? (assuming you're using grub)
[02:59] <Odd-rationale> what is the command to start a gnome session?
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> i'm using PXELINUX
[03:00] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, what was the ending of the pakcage name ?
[03:00] <GerbilSoft> the exact same configuration works on 7.10
[03:00] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: firefox is lousy at searching through history, but I remember all the commands :)
[03:00] <rconan> sorry... was looking at this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464758
[03:00] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: i installed wordpress through the repository, but how do i do anything w/ it?
[03:00] <myf> my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[03:00] <Zambezi> Anyone know how to install from bzr? I install some packages namned bzrtools and similar. But I still need help to install from .bzr.
[03:00] <GerbilSoft> and i already hacked the 8.04alt initrd once because the preseed fetch methods didn't include http for some reason
[03:00] <sammy> moparisthebest: you can use synaptic to have it find the closest one for you with a ping test
[03:00] <Auctionedllama> UHM
[03:00] <mvinsc> i still have to use ndiswrapper
[03:00] <Auctionedllama> pelo: there was none
[03:00] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, never heard of those ,  look for a .deb package or for the source file,
[03:00] <moDumass> Pelo, this is what im tryingt o get sorted "there is no Restricted Driver" option
[03:00] <Ubuntong> erat123: Do you have Apache2, Mysql and PHP installed?
[03:01] <mikebot> If I am using 7.10, and I want to upgrade to 8.04, do I want the alternate cd from the website, or the regular one?
[03:01] <Pelo> !ati > moDumass check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:01] <professor_> anyone else having problem with updates
[03:01] <Pelo> mikebot, the alternate cd
[03:01] <HardyOne> !upgrade | mikebot
[03:01] <ubotu> mikebot: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:01] <professor_> with it taking long to load
[03:01] <mikebot> Pelo: And once I have that, is it straight-forward how to upgrade?
[03:01] <Ubuntong> erat123: If so then go to your web browser and go to http://localhost/wordpress
[03:01] <mikebot> HardyOne: Thanks.
[03:01] <Pelo> professor_, the servers are under heavy load,  be patient or get the alternate cd
[03:01] <moDumass> Pele its  nvidia card, but thanks
[03:01] <moDumass> !nvidia
[03:01] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <Auctionedllama> pelo: k, one sec bbl
[03:02] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: Wouldn't be this one, would it? http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#supported
[03:02] <taxman> Zambezi: if you're trying to install nonstandard stuff, be careful. I hope it is on a test machine or you have very recent backups
[03:02] <HardyOne> mikebot: you pop in the cd boot up and then choose upgrade
[03:02] <professor_> sure I just wanted to make sure
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> hey
[03:02] <KyleK> professor_: switch the mirros
[03:02] <Pelo> mikebot,  just burn it and put it back in the cd drive,  you should bet a windows asking you to add as repos or upgrade
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardon....
[03:02] <seamus7> bbyever: sorry did someone help you ... I looked at your pastebin and it looks like you just had two package managers open at once ... you can only have one before it will work properly
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> how do i do it?
[03:02] <wwalker> anyone else having long hangs in apt-get?
[03:02] <mikebot> Pelo: HardyOne: Thanks.
[03:02] <taxman> Zambezi: other than that, I know nothing specific about what you're trying
[03:02] <Pelo> HardyOne, donT,no need to boot
[03:02] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I tried both of those actually
[03:02] <taxman> wwalker: the servers are getting hammered
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> mikebot, huh?
[03:03] <KyleK> err both b43 and bcm43xx
[03:03] <Pelo> wwalker, it's upgrade day the servers aer under heavy load,  be patient or use the cd
[03:03] <moDumass> Pelo - this is a bit of a step backwards
[03:03] <szx0> How can I debug why my bind9 server won't start (it fails)... where can I find the log files?
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan> why does burning speed matter for Ubuntu ?
[03:03] <HardyOne> Pelo: ah really? I was not aware of that. mikebot apperently no need to reboot. just put the cd in drive
[03:03] <wwalker> taxman: Pelo: thanks for the info
[03:03] <favoritefood0> Hey, I used the beta, and I have the same problem in the new version of ubuntu.
[03:03] <Pelo> moDumass, that's the only thing I know atm
[03:03] <favoritefood0> In all the others, my DVD drive worked perfectly.
[03:03] <yago> I have a big problem with the update, someone can help me?
[03:03] <favoritefood0> Now I can't get it to open or close inside Ubuntu.
[03:04] <moDumass> thats cool, its more that "restricted driver" option should be in system admin
[03:04] <rich_freecomm_> ooooh, so you are SUPPOSED to use different nicknames on different servers...I see
[03:04] <moDumass> but its not
[03:04] <Zambezi> taxman: It's my main machine. It's an official project, but pre alpha stage.
[03:04] <Pelo> HardyOne, that,s waht it did for me when I put the dvd it , I was just expecting it to ask to be added to the repos list but it also offered to upgrade
[03:04] <navreet> how come my gutsy machine is not asking me to upgrade??
[03:04] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardon....
[03:04] <taxman> Zambezi: yikes, be careful. make backups first
[03:04] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardy... woops :p
[03:04] <sammy> rich_freecomm_: all the servers are connected to the same network, think of it as redundancy. you *can't* have the same nick on two servers on the same network.
[03:04]  * CaptainMorgan has not had a pleasant experience thus far.....
[03:04] <navreet> p0l0ni0, hardon?
[03:04] <HardyOne> Pelo: another way Ubuntu makes upgrading easy :)
[03:04] <Pelo> favoritefood0, sudo umount -f /mountpoint
[03:04] <KyleK> lol
[03:04] <navreet> p0l0ni0, lol
[03:04] <taxman> yago, ask specifically please
[03:04] <favoritefood0> Pelo, it doesn't OPEN.
[03:05] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  You don't have the Hardy repos in your sources.list file.
[03:05] <Pelo> CaptainMorgan, sorry to hear that
[03:05] <Zambezi> taxman: Word! I'll hold for awhile then. I have to stick with Pidgin for now. :-/
[03:05] <favoritefood0> As in, if I physically hit the open button on the drive, it won't do a thing.
[03:05] <Pelo> favoritefood0, that would make it open , the -f is to force
[03:05] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, i was hoping I didn't have to do it manually, i wanted to see if it really worked out of the box
[03:05] <harsha> What is a swap drive?
[03:05] <Pelo> harsha, RAM extension on your hdd
[03:06] <favoritefood0> the standard mount point for dvd drives is /mount/dvd right?
[03:06] <Pelo> favoritefood0, is it unmounted from your desktop ?
[03:06] <Zambezi> Pelo: I couldn't say it better myself. Thumbs up!
[03:06] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: sounds silly...I want to log into the server and be in many channels under the same name......
[03:06] <favoritefood0> On my desktop I see "Blank CD"
[03:06] <HardyOne> Pelo: you know what the user peak was for #ubuntu today?
[03:06] <favoritefood0> and I know the drive is empty.
[03:06] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: I would think that would be how people would know who you are
[03:06] <Pelo> favoritefood0,  /media/Blank_CD
[03:06] <meoblast001> How Canonical Makes Money -> https://shop.canonical.com/support.php?osCsid=be08b645960fddf8cdc1f4c1f2e4e73e
[03:06] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  It's just a matter of changing every instance of 'gutsy' to 'hardy' and running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:06] <Pelo> HardyOne, no
[03:07] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: so what's your name on Freenode?
[03:07] <yago> Well, I had used a Cd to update Kubuntu 8.04, every was great untill display showed "configurating chillispot (1.0-8) ...", then it stopped, and I shutdown, then now I cannot do nothing
[03:07] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: i installed everything, but when i go to http://localhost/wordpress, it tries to download a phtml file
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, yep... i know, but i just want to see it prompt me for an upgrade, i just wanted to see if it worked... btw, what's the best way to upgrade?
[03:07] <professor_> KyleK, how do I switch the mirros
[03:07] <juano__> kubuntu 8.04 out already ?
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, should I use bittorrent to download the release?? and then mount it via loopback?
[03:07] <Odd-rationale> juano__: yes
[03:07] <harsha> Pelo: ok, I was asked to create a swap drive while installation of Ubuntu, is it required only while installation or that space will be used even after installation?
[03:07] <myf> sorry for repeating but my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[03:07] <KyleK> professor_: its under settings
[03:07] <juano__> Odd-rationale: thanks :)
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, would that be best? (in terms of not using ubuntu server's bandwidths)
[03:07] <KyleK> like Settings -> Software Sources
[03:08] <Pelo> favoritefood0, take a paperclip, unbend it ,  look on the cd drive face, just below the try , little pin point  hole,  sick the papeclip in it and puch
[03:08] <favoritefood0> I did that.
[03:08] <favoritefood0> That's how I know it's empty.
[03:08] <Skuller> Hey guys, I'm trying to install 7.10 on a school PC but it ends up being at the terminal sort of prompt and it says 'busybox' at the top. I tried 7.04 and it works sweet. Any suggestions?
[03:08] <professor_> KyleK, Im sorry Im a noob , how do I do
[03:08] <favoritefood0> If I put in a disk, it doesn't spin up.
[03:08] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  Bittorrent would probably be the fastest at this point, as the Ubuntu servers/mirrors are all bogged down at the moment.  Which may be why it doesn't prompt you to upgrade right away.  They may give a few days for all the manual-upgraders to get it out of their system before rolling out the option to upgrade to the general public.
[03:08] <Pelo> harsha, it's used after ,  make it about 2xram  max 2 gig
[03:08] <Stroganoff> Skuller, press ctrl+alt+f4
[03:08] <nickrud> Skuller when you boot, do f6 (?) and try some of the boot options
[03:08] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, got it
[03:08] <juano__> Skuller: whats the hardware for that pc ?
[03:09] <thiebaude> 8.04 is nice
[03:09] <KyleK> professor_: System -> Admin -> Softwar Sources
[03:09] <Skuller> Ok I'll try that right now
[03:09] <Venko> Hey, I'm having some issues replacing the gnome-main-menu image in Hardy. I've tried the gconf-editor method and directly replacing the file. After both times I've reloaded gnome-panel with no success.
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> ah ha
[03:09] <Pelo> favoritefood0, might be a bad drive ,  might be a problem with the strap,  might be badly pluged in ,  turn off the comp, open the box, check the connections make sure the power cabloe and the data strap are not damaged
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> apparently the alternate install CD no longer works for network boot
[03:09] <KyleK> and in the middle where it says like USA click that and choose a different mirror, kernel.org is what im using atm
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> so i have to manually get the alt install initrd
[03:09] <favoritefood0> Pelo, it works perfectly in Bios.
[03:09] <Venko> Is this a Hardy bug or am I doing something wrong?
[03:10] <favoritefood0> It worked perfectly 15 mins ago in Feisty.
[03:10] <p0w3r0n3> unzip -a on a .exe in ubuntu hardy... fails... how do i fix this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:10] <favoritefood0> It's DEFINITELY something in Hardy.
[03:10] <Skuller> juano__: its a p4 3.ghz, 1gb RAM, PC, custom complied
[03:10] <Shadow_X> wow this is bad. i just installed xp on my old machine (for using photoshop and other windows based apps i need) and it has no generic driver for my NIC :|
[03:10] <harsha> Pelo: I have 1 GB of ram that means I have to allote 2 GB for swap drive, am I correct?
[03:10] <woddf2> Hello
[03:10] <Pelo> favoritefood0, you can open/close your cd/dvd ddrive from the bios ? that' sa new one to me
[03:10] <woddf2> Update Manager keeps hanging!
[03:10] <Stroganoff> p0w3r0n3: sudo apt-get install unzip
[03:10] <lopin> Actually, manually selecting a mirror close to home is working nicely...
[03:10] <Pelo> harsha, yes
[03:10] <Ubuntong> erat123: I'm no expert but make sure PHP is installed correctly. maybe install myphpadmin so you can make sure it's working.  A kind of shortcut is to install egroupware since it's requirements are PHP, Apache2, Mysql. So you will get everything installed correctly.
[03:10] <TheDukeNY> How do I had my internal hard drive to my desktop?
[03:10] <lopin> Go to software sources, and select a mirror that's closer to you
[03:10] <TheDukeNY> *add
[03:10] <favoritefood0> Pelo, as the computer is going through BIOS, I can hit the open/close button and it will open or close the drive.
[03:10] <juano__> Skuller: hmm ok, was thinking maybe you forgot to check if it was x64 architecture, cause in that case you need to download the x64 cd
[03:10] <rich_freecomm> ahhh
[03:10] <Pelo> woddf2, it's release day the servers are under heavy loads,  get the torrent for the alternate install cd and upgrade from that
[03:10] <harsha> Pelo: Thanks for the help.
[03:11] <favoritefood0> Pelo, the drive also worked perfectly 15 mins ago in Feisty.
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stronganoff, its already installed?
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stronganoff, any other ideas?
[03:11] <Skuller> By the way the problem I mentioned arises when trying to boot off the live version of the OS
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stroganoff, any other ideas?
[03:11] <lopin> Pelo:  I couldn't get that to work, but switching to a local server helped TREMENDOUSLY!
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stroganoff, already installed
[03:11] <Pelo> favoritefood0, I don't have an answer for you , report the bug to launcpad
[03:11] <erat123> ﻿Ubuntong: i'll give that a try and see where it goes.  i went to their site, and it looks cool.  i've just never heard of it.  sorry i cant really help you with your problem though.
[03:11] <favoritefood0> Pelo, Okay.
[03:11] <Shadow_X> Pelo, can you perform a standard upgrade from the alternate cd?
[03:11] <lopin> Shadow_X
[03:11] <HardyOne> Shadow_X: yes
[03:11] <DBautell> Shadow_X, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:11] <KyleK> hey can I upgrade from feisty to hardy?
[03:12] <nickrud> favoritefood0 you should do   tail -f /var/log/syslog , try inserting a disk, and including the output in your report
[03:12] <shane2peru> anyone know anything about a DVD iso for ubuntu (of course the 8.04 edition)
[03:12] <favoritefood0> Oh, pelo, get this, Sysinfo detects the drive just fine.
[03:12] <juano__> Odd-rationale: i'm off to try 8.04 now :P:)
[03:12] <Pelo> Shadow_X, yes,  alt cd or dvd, but not from the live cd
[03:12] <Ubuntong> erat123: Thanks and good luck with wordpress.
[03:12] <MachinTrucChose_> MachinTrucChose_,
[03:12] <lopin> Pelo Chaning to a local server helped...
[03:12] <Pelo> favoritefood0, I get the issue I just donT' have a fix for you
[03:12] <MachinTrucChose_> sorry, just testing
[03:12] <professor_> KyleK, and then what
[03:12] <Shadow_X> yea i know not from livecd, but its been forever since i used the alt. thanks :)
[03:12] <myf> hi, how many people has been able to upgrade to hardy here?
[03:12] <shane2peru> in particular, where to get the DVD iso?
[03:12] <lopin> I can't use the alt cd to upgrade...
[03:12] <blankhead> does anyone know how to get into text only mode in hardy heron?
[03:12] <lopin> It locks...
[03:12] <Pelo> lopin, helped with what ?
[03:12] <HardyOne> MachinTrucChose_: this text should be red
[03:12] <DBautell> !torrents
[03:12] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[03:12] <Odd-rationale> juano__: go for it. I'm seeding all the alternative cd's :)
[03:12] <thiebaude> i upgraded 3 days ago
[03:12] <favoritefood0> nickrud, what exactly do you mean? I insert a disk and the drive does nothing. I have to open the drive manually, close it manually.
[03:13] <juano__> Odd-rationale: good job :)
[03:13] <KyleK> professor_: after you select a difffernt mirror? close it
[03:13] <MachinTrucChose_> hardyone: thank you
[03:13] <unop> blankhead, ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[03:13] <aubrac> KyleK: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[03:13] <lopin> I finally could download updates by going from us.ubuntu.com to a local server, hosted at WVU
[03:13] <HardyOne> juano__: I am also seeding all the iso's
[03:13] <moon2js> Trying to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, but update-manager hangs (Beryl-greys out) on "Preparing to upgrade" and doesn't do anything. Are the repos overloaded or do I have a problem?
[03:13] <cirkit> If you're on 8.04 RC1, will "update manager" be good enough for the upgrade?
[03:13] <KyleK> it'll apt-get update automatiicaly
[03:13] <Stroganoff> p0w3r0n3 maybe the EXE isnt ZIP compressed. try xarchiver
[03:13] <MachinTrucChose_> X-chat is the nicest client so far...LostIRC has no features, neither does Xchat-Gnome. Konversation's pretty cool too, but I guess everyone was right to recommend X-chat.
[03:13] <shane2peru> Thanks DBautell
[03:13] <sammy> lopin: I've been trying to tell people once I changed my mirror everything went quickly, but I guess there is something to wanting more iso discs out there :)
[03:13] <professor_> KyleK, no where do I find the mirror
[03:13] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ooohh, sounds hardware. The disk tray action should have nothing to do with the os
[03:13]  * Pelo is just seeding the dvd , he can only manage 76 kps out 
[03:13] <lopin> Sammy ^.^
[03:13] <myf> moon2js: same here
[03:13] <bod_> moon2js, the repo's are being raped
[03:13] <nosa-J> hurray for heron!
[03:13] <shane2peru> or, thanks ubotu lol
[03:14] <juano__> HardyOne: Odd-rationale keep it up, cyou in a while
[03:14] <favoritefood0> nickrud, the thing is is that it worked in feisty a few minutes ago, works in BIOS, it's even detected.
[03:14] <DBautell> shane2peru, I try
[03:14] <jumpkick> need apt-bittorrent
[03:14] <moon2js> so once the repos are recover, it will work?
[03:14] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: irssi
[03:14] <Tailsfan> What does this mean for when a get a error with this: SET_MODULE_OWNER
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> I have two computer seeding
[03:14] <favoritefood0> I can go into my feisty live CD, and I'll come talk on IRC lol
[03:14] <MachinTrucChose_> sammy: thanks, not a fan of console clients :P
[03:14] <nickrud> favoritefood0 do you dual boot? Will it boot the hardy cd?
[03:14] <KyleK> professor_: download from: its a dropdown, click around in there :)
[03:14] <Millertime_018> how can i get vmware-server to show up in the add/remove applications box?
[03:14] <Pelo> okaratas, I'm out again,  later folks
[03:14] <Shadow_X> another question. do distro upgrades fail often? (I upgraded an old ubuntu server to 7.10, and it failed to reboot properly. i was a n00b then so reinstalled lol)
[03:14] <thiebaude> cya
[03:14] <HardyOne> late Pelo
[03:14] <jPratt> Wow the servers have calmed down thank god
[03:14] <favoritefood0> nickrud; I just upgraded from feisty.
[03:14] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: then try pidgin/gajim/kopete/etc with an irc plugin or a jabber server with an irc gateway.
[03:15] <Millertime_018> how can i get vmware-server to show up in the add/remove box?
[03:15] <shane2peru> DBautell, hmm, seems as that there is a traffic jam at that site.
[03:15] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I know, but we're talking about current troubleshooting info
[03:15] <taxman> yago: after you got that message, you were able to shutdown normally with no errors? And now what exactly happens? What do you mean by can't do anything?
[03:15] <moon2js> Can I do a dist-upgrade but have it access the repos from a CD?
[03:15] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: pidgin and gajim actually both do really well with irc transports on jabber servers. so does psi
[03:15] <ffm_> Millertime_018, Just remove it via synaptic.
[03:15] <ffm_> Millertime_018, Sys>Admin>Synaptic.
[03:15] <KyleK> damn
[03:15] <damo22> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 25 13:04:51 2008
[03:15] <MachinTrucChose_> Pidgin is the first one I tried. It's terrible. Maybe for a person who's never going to use IRC these multi-purpose clients are good enough, but not for me
[03:15] <favoritefood0> nickrud, I only use ubuntu.
[03:15] <ffm_> !language | KyleK
[03:15] <ubotu> KyleK: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:15] <HardyOne> !aptcd | moon2js
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <DBautell> okaratas, howabout ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[03:15] <nickrud> moon2js from an alternate cd, yes
[03:15] <KyleK> i guess im screwed for using 7.04
[03:15] <favoritefood0> nickrud; I only had feisty installed.
[03:15] <damo22> how can i fix that: sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[03:15] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Use XChat for IRC.
[03:15] <jPratt> How can i update my Java?
[03:15] <DBautell> durn autocomlete
[03:15] <ffm_> damo22, sudo -k
[03:15] <KyleK> ffm_: damn is disney friendly :p
[03:15] <nosa-J> theses downloads take forever
[03:16] <Tailsfan> !modules
[03:16] <ubotu> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubotu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubotu blacklist
[03:16] <binarybandit> irssi! :D
[03:16] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: I think you'll find there isn't much going on in the way of irc client development, I'd assume the most would be going on in those multi-purpose clients. also, gajim is a jabber only client ;)
[03:16] <nickrud> favoritefood0 so, try booting a cd. See if you get different action at that level.
[03:16] <MachinTrucChose_> ffm: that's what I'm using now. I tried like 4-5 clients prior to deciding on X-chat.
[03:16] <favoritefood0> I'll be right back.
[03:16] <Tailsfan> Oh
[03:16] <Kl4m> Shadow_X: server upgrades should never break, except in special situations which you should know about before.
[03:16] <seamus7> MachinTrucChose_ I'm on IRC via Pidgin ... works nicely
[03:16] <leap> where is the best torrent site for 8.04 alternate-amd64 cd
[03:16] <moon2js> alt cd. I have the iso and can burn. can I just insert and it will do, or do I need to some how point update-manager to the disc?
[03:16] <ffm_> binarybandit, for when you're on the road, yeah.
[03:16] <KyleK> ffm_: !calmdown > ffm_ :)
[03:16] <bmoll8> anyone know where I can find a good review of the new ubuntu release
[03:16] <ianliu_88> How do I remove those shadows/glow from ubuntu windows?
[03:16] <smallfoot-> i should install gnash, swfdec or adobe?
[03:16] <damo22> ffm_: it was capital K thanks
[03:16] <nickrud> moon2js the hardy cd will ask if you want to upgrade when you insert it
[03:16] <ffm_> bmoll8, It works well, much better than the prior one.
[03:16] <MachinTrucChose_> basically an IRC client needs to have a decent interface (with a list of users! can't believe some didn't have that), syntax highlighting, DCC sends, CTCP suites, aliases...it's very minimal stuff that was already in mIRC 10 years ago
[03:17] <osmosis> whats the difference between nvidia and nvidia_new ?
[03:17] <black_13> what would cause ubuntu server install to get stuck scanning mirror stage?
[03:17] <nickrud> moon2js the alternate cd, remember
[03:17] <moon2js> nickrud: but it has to be the alt, not the reg?
[03:17] <ffm_> damo22, What?
[03:17] <seamus7> ianliu_88: try disabling various compiz plugins in Advanced Desktop Effects
[03:17] <nickrud> moon2js yes
[03:17] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: which is why x-chat is your client of choice, it was around 10 years ago, too, iirc.
[03:17] <ffm_> damo22, Oh.
[03:17] <damo22> ffm_: it was capital K .. sudo -K
[03:17] <nickrud> black_13 probably server overload
[03:17] <moon2js> nickrud: cool, thanks!
[03:17] <woddf2> I may upgrade tomorrow.
[03:17] <Daedius_> hey all
[03:17] <Shadow_X> Kl4m, i think it was due to ignorance about linux in general. ive learned alot more lately. i used to be daunted by the thought of linux, but now, im comfortable with is. almost as comfy as i am on windows (which i have spent my whole life on, sadly)
[03:17] <Daedius_> i'm having trouble with the 2.6.24 kernel
[03:17] <Daedius_> I'm also a n00b with ubuntu
[03:17] <binarybandit> ffm_, not just for the road :(
[03:17] <Skuller> I try booting off a 7.10 live desktop CD but after the orange bar going back and forth it just leaves me at a command prompt kind of place with a 'busybox' title at the top. This does not happen with a 7.04 CD on the same PC. Any suggestions? I tried ctrl-alt-F4 with no luck and neither with F6
[03:17] <shane2peru> what advantage is there having the DVD?  More packages, is it the alternate CD and the DesktopCD install wrapped into one?
[03:18] <Daedius_> anyonek know the quickest route I should go to get the 2.6.25 kernel on ubuntu?
[03:18] <Daedius_> for 64bit system
[03:18] <ffm_> shane2peru, If you have a fast internet connection, the DVD offers little adcantage.
[03:18] <nickrud> Daedius_ the only way is compiling it yourself
[03:18] <Kl4m> bmoll8: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=682 is a "review" but don't go there if you want a critic
[03:18] <shane2peru> Skuller, do you have the 8.04 CD???  Hardy, it is just out
[03:18] <ffm_> Daedius_, Don't?
[03:18] <nickrud> !kernel | Daedius_
[03:18] <ubotu> Daedius_: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[03:18] <shane2peru> ffm_, so there are more packages?
[03:18] <ffm_> shane2peru, Yes.
[03:18] <dragobr_> isso é um teste
[03:18] <Kl4m> leap: Get the torrent file pretty much anywhere, you'll get connected to the same torrent
[03:18] <WeeJa1> Hi guys! any one using vpnc here?
[03:18] <Daedius_> hmmm
[03:18] <jPratt> Ubuntu is all i am running now this morning i also had windows *Laughs at Micro$oft
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, But all of them are avalible via the repos.
[03:19] <shane2peru> ffm_, for like if I wanted to install on other computers that don't have fast internet?
[03:19] <shane2peru> ffm_, right
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, Yeah, for that.
[03:19] <Skuller> shane2peru: No, I don't at the moment and I don't have the connection speed to download it quickly either, have to do with 7.10 or 7.04 (this one works)
[03:19] <MachinTrucChose_> daedius: I heard the performance difference is negligible for a desktop user with 64-bit. People on forums seemed to recommend not bothering for now and sticking with 32-bit
[03:19] <eZe> i just fornated a partition, but fdisk still displays the wring filesystem type, does it need a reboot to recognize that?
[03:19] <leap> ffound one no seeders
[03:19] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: I used to
[03:19] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows, I think I need to run some checks as dont know why it wont mount
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, See also "apt on cd"
[03:19] <Daedius_> can you guys think of a way I can test the usability of my usb mouse outside of X11?
[03:19] <Rycher> hey when i try to install under the terminal. I have a problem.... When it ask for the admin password in the terminal, it wont let me type anything.? any ideas..
[03:19] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: did you use it with a secure token or pre-shared key?
[03:19] <Daedius_> I don't know if the problem is my kernel or X11 itself
[03:19] <nickrud> MachinTrucChose_ I ran 64bit in feisty, but switched back to 32 for hardy for that very reason
[03:19] <Kl4m> leap: get the official torrent from ubuntu.com
[03:19] <ffm_> Daedius_, Why would you want to use it out side of X?
[03:19] <ffm_> Daedius_, Not off hand.
[03:20] <nickrud> Daedius_ gpm might do the trick
[03:20] <shane2peru> SKuhn, hmm, did you order a CD for shipit?  What country are you in?  There is probably a loco group close
[03:20] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: PSK.
[03:20] <WeeJa1> I can't get the Network Manager + vpnc interface to promt me for a secure token input...
[03:20] <Daedius_> My usb mouse isn't working on 8.04
[03:20] <ffm_> Rycher, Install what?
[03:20] <black_13> nickrud, is there a way choose a different server?
[03:20] <HardyOne> Rycher: you type and dont see the characters?
[03:20] <plik> shane2peru: mouseon console is handy for cut & paste
[03:20] <Jobias> Rycher: if you're referring to the fact that the cursor doesn't move in the terminal, that's normal. i believe it's a security feature, so that no one can tell how long your password is
[03:20] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: I guess its time to read :-)
[03:20] <lopin> I can't get cdromupgrade to work.
[03:20] <ffm_> WeeJa1, You mean for your password?
[03:20] <WeeJa1> yea
[03:20] <Rycher> it wont let me type anything
[03:20] <nickrud> black_13 system->admin->software sources, on the dropdown button on the first tab, choose other
[03:20] <HardyOne> Rycher: type in the password and hit enter
[03:20] <plik> oops, not to shane2peru , pesky accidental tabs
[03:20] <Rycher> dosnt work
[03:20] <shane2peru> SKuller, hmm, did you order a CD for shipit?  What country are you in?  There is probably a loco group close
[03:20] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: I didn't use network-manager, I connected to my campus wireless and started vpnc in a console
[03:20] <WeeJa1> ffm_: I imported my Cisco vpn client config but it does ot promt me for secure token
[03:21] <shane2peru> sorry SKuhn wrong person
[03:21] <shane2peru> thanks plik
[03:21] <dbristow> well that tears it.  releases.ubuntu.com's copy of wubu.exe has the same md5sum as the rest I've tried
[03:21] <black_13> nickrud i didnt see that on the server install
[03:21] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: ill be happy with console
[03:21] <Skuller> shane2peru: Yes I did
[03:21] <ffm_> WeeJa1, Ah. Can't help then.
[03:21] <lopin> !cdromupgrade
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdromupgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <eklof> Hi all! anyone upgraded a 6.06 server to 8.04 yet? Did it work? :)
[03:21] <ffm_> dbristow, What's the issue?
[03:21] <Jobias> Rycher: what kind of an error are you getting?
[03:21] <shane2peru> ffm_, apt on cd?
[03:21] <MachinTrucChose_> where would I go if I wanted nicer text fonts than the ones included in Ubuntu? Are all of the Windows one proprietary Microsoft stuff or something (Arial, Courier New, Terminal, Verdana, etc)?
[03:21] <lopin> Why is there no documentation about the server death?
[03:21] <DBautell> ISOupgrade
[03:21] <MachinTrucChose_> can't find anything using synaptic
[03:21] <twinkie_addict> the repos must realy be hit hard , i cant refresh my apt list :)
[03:21] <WeeJa1> ffm_: ill figure it out....acording to vpnc site, that support was added with 0.3 release
[03:21] <DBautell> doh
[03:21] <manish> how to install flash player for mozilla
[03:21] <Rycher> su: Authentication failure. Sorry.
[03:21] <WeeJa1> ubuntu comes with 0.51
[03:21] <dbristow> ffm_: I can't get a copy of wubi.exe that verifies via the MD5SUMS files
[03:21] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:21] <sean_> MachinTrucChose_: mstcorefonts I believe is the name
[03:21] <ffm_> lopin, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[03:21] <Kl4m> eklof: It is a supported upgrade path But I don't know anyone who did it actually
[03:21] <Jobias> MachinTrucChose_: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:21] <shane2peru> ffm_, that could be very handy, where do I find out about it?  Wouldn't apt on DVD be more efficient. :)
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm wanting to go from 7.04 but I think I might wait a day. anyone done it without major issues?
[03:22] <seamus7> anyone finding FF3 beta 5 just too buggy at the moment? have many of you downgraded to FF2? or gone elsewhere?
[03:22] <ffm_> shane2peru, Same thing.
[03:22] <MachinTrucChose_> manish: open synaptic and search for "flash".
[03:22] <HardyOne> !fonts | MachinTrucChose_
[03:22] <vicmarconi> is this final version the same as the release candidate of 2 days earlier?
[03:22] <ubotu> MachinTrucChose_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:22] <nickrud> black_13 ah, server :) . You need to go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors , pick one and edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <seamus7> oops I'm not supposed to poll
[03:22] <MachinTrucChose_> thank you guys
[03:22] <eklof> Kl4m: I need some test-users before me :)
[03:22] <lopin> twinkie_addict: changing to a closer server will let you get your apt get working, but don't try to upgrade
[03:22] <dmsuperman> I'm doubting this, but is there anyway to run visual studio on linux? I _really_ like the intellisense features and project management of it, so I either want visual studio in linux or something similar with intellisense (one that learns from your code, not just built in functions)
[03:22] <underdog5004> lopin, there's nothing to document, so many users trying to download 700+ Mb from a few servers is basically a DDOS against the servers...unintentional, but there you go :)
[03:22] <dbristow> all the copies I have have the same, different, md5sum, from funet, mirrors.kernel.org, everywhere
[03:22] <shane2peru> ffm_, where do I find out more info about the DVD, something to read on it?
[03:22] <plik> vicmarconi: apparently the last changes were on 22nd
[03:22] <Jobias> Rycher: that's odd. i don't really know what's wrong. sorry
[03:22] <dbristow> I think the MD5SUMS file has got to be wrong
[03:22] <black_13> how do you do during the install process
[03:22] <lopin> underdog5004: I definitely know that, I'm a comp sci major...
[03:22] <nickrud> Seven_Six_Two it won't hurt to wait a week, let some bugs that weren't found without really widespread use get fixed, and the mirrors to settle down
[03:22] <ffm_> shane2peru, hold on..
[03:22] <J-a-k-e> hi does anyone here know anything about sound in ubuntu?
[03:22] <underdog5004> as am I
[03:23] <lopin> The question is: why is there not a disclaimer on the main site?
[03:23] <j_humphrey> maco: hey, you there?
[03:23] <J-a-k-e> hi does anyone here know anything about sound *quality* in ubuntu?
[03:23] <Skuller> Any problem if I install 7.04 now? I mean as in its not too old or does not have a huge lack of features does it?
[03:23] <Rycher> hmmm... well this person on the fourms told me to run it in "super user" mode. Any ideas?
[03:23] <ffm_> shane2peru, http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I noticed they're getting hammered. I had to edit my hosts info just to update
[03:23] <maco> j_humphrey: whatss up
[03:23] <MachinTrucChose_> hardyone: are the microsoft core fonts copyrighted then? ie, they can't be used in the US without breaking the law (however trivially)?
[03:23] <underdog5004> lopin, why would there be? obviously there's going to be a slowdown when a new release comes out...
[03:23] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Mhm.
[03:23] <dbristow> I'm getting this md5sum for wubi.exe: a96aa69961f3ed80dd7a88fae1e28196  wubi.exe
[03:23] <nickrud> Skuller nothing wrong with 7.04, and it has 6 more months of support
[03:23] <shane2peru> ffm_, thanks!, checking it out.
[03:23] <lopin> underdog5004: This is not a slowdown.  This is a grinding halt
[03:23] <j_humphrey> maco: So i think that the iwl3945 driver and my router are incompatible
[03:23] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, at least they cannot be redistrubuted. You need a MS licence.
[03:23] <ffm_> shane2peru, No problem.
[03:23] <HardyOne> MachinTrucChose_: something like that but doubt Bill is going to knock on your door
[03:23] <Stroganoff> MachinTrucChose_ msttcorefonts are freeware, extracted from MS freeware
[03:24] <ffm_> maco, still helping people?
[03:24]  * shane2peru runs off to read about the Ubuntu DVD
[03:24] <j_humphrey> maco: http://stebalien.com/2008/04/2wireiwl3945crash.html
[03:24] <Kl4m> eklof: It really shouldn't be more dangerous than, say a debian dist-upgrade. Many entreprise users are going to upgrade from an LTS to another (not today!)
[03:24] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Technically a violation, but unlikely to prosicute.
[03:24] <lopin> underdog5004: And, I'm trying to upgrade from the alt cd, but it keeps locking up...
[03:24] <underdog5004> lopin, ime, it's been a slowdown...I tried to install libk3b2-mp3 on my gf's lappy...took nearly 5 minutes before it could fetch the package
[03:24] <genie> hi all
[03:24] <underdog5004> lopin, where does it lock up at?
[03:25] <genie> I am getting this error when I try to run sudo command: sudo: unable to resolve host genie02
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: Package manager
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> lopin, while it's fetching the package lists?
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: I switched to a local server, and I could at least get the lists, bu tnothing else...
[03:25] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose_: those fonts have been given by microsoft "in the interest of interoperability". Sourceforge hosts them
[03:25] <shane2peru> ffm_, WOW double thanks, apt on CD looks really cool, I'm liking it  Thanks a bundle!
[03:25] <Gman99999> my sound is all messed up now that I upgraded to hardy heron, the sound is all raspy and ruffled, why is that?
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: Maybe?  It's at the end, but it locks up while offline too...
[03:25] <dbristow> whereas the MD5SUMS file has this line: cdd32124f23b455b0aa22cc3ff35ff35 *wubi.exe
[03:25] <ffm_> shane2peru, Make checks payable to... </sarcasm>
[03:25] <balleyn1> does anyone have any experience with rsnapshot? I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm a bit confused regarding what should run on the server vs client
[03:25] <gvieira> sry if this question was previously answered, but how can I upgrade from a 8.04 beta version to LTS final??
[03:25] <TheDukeNY> Does 8.04 no longer include ntfs support?
[03:25] <ffm_> Gman99999, Uh, I wouldn't know  unless you gave more information.
[03:25] <shane2peru> ffm_, ha ha ;)
[03:26] <lopin> underdog5004: "Checking Package Manager"
[03:26] <ffm_> gvieira, use the update manager.
[03:26] <nickrud> gvieira run update-manager
[03:26] <ffm_> gvieira, it happens just like any other software update.
[03:26] <x3n0> hi all
[03:26] <genie> sudo: unable to resolve host pcname
[03:26] <ffm_> !hello | x3n0
[03:26] <bcardarella> Is there a reason why my numerical keypad is now controlling my mouse cursor after the upgrade to 8.04?
[03:26] <ubotu> x3n0: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:26] <HardyOne> gvieira: if you did the update yesterday you are already there :)
[03:26] <MachinTrucChose_> kl4m: thanks. in that case, why not include them in Ubuntu? I can see why they wouldn't be in Gobuntu, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to mind optional "restricted" packages
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> TheDukeNY, try the 3g drivers
[03:26] <blankhead> why is it that without nvidia driver disabled the resolution reaches 76hz but while its enabled it only stays within the 50hz i thought it was suppose to be the other way around!!
[03:26] <nickrud> !hostname | genie (do this)
[03:26] <ubotu> genie (do this): Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[03:26] <ffm_> HardyOne, Sys>Prefs>Assist. Tech.
[03:26] <Stroganoff> balleyn1: http://www.rsnapshot.org/howto/1.2/rsnapshot-HOWTO.en.html
[03:26] <eklof> Kl4m: yeah i guess so.
[03:26] <underdog5004> lopin, weird, I remember it locking up briefly (10 minutes or so) on an older version when it was trying to get updates before rebooting...
[03:26] <favoritefood0> nickrud; just booted up my live CD, works perfectly.
[03:26] <Gman99999> ffm_ its just sounds all garbled now, im not sure how that could happen it sounds like there's static now in every single sound
[03:26] <underdog5004> genie, long time no see!
[03:26] <DBautell> bcardarella, sounds like an accessibility setting
[03:26] <lopin> underdog5004: I'll just let it sit then
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Uh, maybe a hardware problem?
[03:27] <x3n0> i'm having a few issues with an alias i've written
[03:27] <sammy> bcardarella: sounds like one of the accessability options; mouse keys. you can change the settings in system, preference, assistive technologies
[03:27] <gvieira> I don't remember :P how can I see if my version is the final?
[03:27] <balleyn1> Stroganoff: thanks
[03:27] <HardyOne> ffm_: ???
[03:27] <Prez00> is the torrent working ok?  I can't seem to connect..
[03:27] <bcardarella> DBautell: I'll check it out
[03:27] <taxman> genie, sorry I don't know. goodle didn't turn up anything I take it?
[03:27] <VictorB> hi
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ yea but what kind and where? lol
[03:27] <underdog5004> lopin, lol, not much else you can do :)
[03:27] <nickrud> favoritefood0 and your driver still doesn't work at all, won't even open with sudo eject  ?
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Can you try under fiesty livecd and see if it still occurs?
[03:27] <Prez00> connecting to peers..
[03:27]  * underdog5004 hands genie a coffee
[03:27] <sammy> bcardarella: it's possible holding down one of the buttons for too long triggered it to turn on. happens all the time with the shift and sticky keys to me.
[03:27] <ffm_> HardyOne, That's the panel that controls that bit.
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ I just upgrade from gutsy and everything worked fine
[03:27] <favoritefood0> nickrud; what is the sudo eject command for a standard DVD drive?
[03:27] <bcardarella> sammy: yeap, that was it. Thanks :)
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ it all worked fine in gutsy
[03:27] <TheDukeNY> Seven_Six_Two: How do I get those drivers?
[03:27] <HardyOne> ffm_: what are you talking about. sorry you lost me
[03:27] <nickrud> favoritefood0 sudo eject /dev/<device>
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Sorry, I ment to try with a gutsy CD and see if the issue still occurs.
[03:28] <ffm_> HardyOne, Go to the Sys>Prefs>Assist. Tech. (series of menus)
[03:28] <favoritefood0> nickrud; nothing.
[03:28] <nickrud> favoritefood0 and ls /dev/sd* should show you the device (if it was recognized) . If there's only one, eject should find it
[03:28] <HardyOne> ffm_: why are you directing me there?
[03:28] <x3n0> alias ll="ls -l | sed -e 's/--x/1/g' -e 's/-w-/2/g' -e 's/-wx/3/g' -e 's/r--/4/g' -e 's/r-x/5/g' -e 's/rw-/6/g' -e 's/rwx/7/g' -e 's/---/0/g'"
[03:28] <genie> thanks ubotu
[03:28] <ffm_> HardyOne, Sorry, I ment Sys>Prefs>Mouse.
[03:28] <ffm_> genie, Ubotu is a bot.
[03:28] <favoritefood0> nickrud, my DVD drive shows up in Sysinfo.
[03:28] <nickrud> x3n0 just what does that do? better have a good answer
[03:28] <cameron122000> upgrade is being slow :(
[03:28] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose_: I don't know why they are not included. But they are in a exe, and the license told they can't be modified. That's why it depends on cabextract also.
[03:29] <HardyOne> ffm_: lmao you are answering questions to me that I have not asked
[03:29] <nickrud> favoritefood0 but does it show up in /dev/sd*
[03:29] <dbristow> anybody else getting the same md5sum for wubi.exe ?
[03:29] <VictorB> i have problems with downloading with firefox.. i have upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and when i download something firefox hangs for 10 seconds. who has the same problems?
[03:29] <nosa-J> wow firefox 3 on the new version
[03:29] <HardyOne> ffm_: My Hardy install has been working great for months now
[03:29] <x3n0> its an alias to change ls -l to show permissions in octal
[03:29] <Kl4m> VictorB: I noticed FF hangs for 5-10 seconds when switching tabs or loading some new tabs also.
[03:30] <ffm_> HardyOne, You asked why your numpad was controlling your mouse? (or was that someone else...)
[03:30] <nickrud> x3n0 ok, I see that now. Can't read sed without serious help ;)
[03:30] <favoritefood0> nickrud; it's mount point is /dev/hdc
[03:30] <ffm_> Kl4m, If you want you can install firefox-2.0 from the repositories.
[03:30] <HardyOne> ffm_: someone else
[03:30] <VictorB> Kl4m, ok i gonna try that
[03:30] <ffm_> favoritefood0, That's not the mount point, that's the device point.
[03:30] <fdsjkalf> when is archive.ubuntu.com going to  be back up?
[03:30] <MachinTrucChose_> whelp, I gotta restart, just installed the fonts
[03:30] <MachinTrucChose_> ciao
[03:30] <ffm_> fdsjkalf, When people stop using it so heavellu.
[03:30] <x3n0> well i'm in need of a little help getting it going properly :/
[03:30] <ffm_> *heavelly.
[03:30] <mutk> favoritefood0, That is usually not a mount point. It is a link to the block device.
[03:30] <VictorB> ffm_, i installenmd firefox 2.0 and have the same problems
[03:30] <pawan> hi
[03:30] <Arnos> is there a booster floppy that allows me to boot from USB for computer that can't by default?
[03:30] <Kl4m> VictorB: It only does it occasionally
[03:30] <DBautell> fdsjkalf, when people stop poking it:D
[03:30] <arbir> is back
[03:30] <ffm_> fdsjkalf, Try a local mirror.
[03:30] <professor_> KyleK, Thanks it worked
[03:30] <favoritefood0> ffm_ and mutk; thanks
[03:31] <pawan> what is lts in 8.04
[03:31] <ffm_> !lts | pawalls
[03:31] <ubotu> pawalls: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:31] <ethana2> pawan: long term support
[03:31] <ffm_> !lts | pawan
[03:31] <ubotu> pawan: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:31] <nickrud> favoritefood0 it shouldn't be anymore (in hardy) . Is /dev/hdc there , and is any /dev/sc*   (the new naming scheme for cd/dvds, forgot for a sec
[03:31] <VictorB> Kl4m, canyou try downloading?
[03:31] <sammy> Arnos: I don't think they do booster floopys like that anymore now that they figure everyone can just dl and burn a cd, or that anyone wanting to do that could just make their own bootable floppy. are you still trying to load the update from usb?
[03:31] <MachinTrucChose> ah, much nicer :P
[03:31] <favoritefood0> for nickrud; in other news I looked in /dev/by-id and I see my DVD drive there
[03:31] <fdsjkalf> based on your experience, how long does it take for archive.ubuntu.com to be back to normal after a release date
[03:31] <arbir> has anybody made a ubuntu installable USb key ?
[03:31] <pawan> ok
[03:31] <Kl4m> VictorB: I've been using it for many weeks now. It did on downloading a couple of times but rarely
[03:31] <pawan> how is the new version
[03:32] <nickrud> favoritefood0 if you won't answer the questions I ask, there's not much I can say
[03:32] <Arnos> I arbir: I have, it didn't work thought that might have just been the PC I tried it on
[03:32] <Kl4m> pawan: stay around and watch the problems flow :)
[03:32] <favoritefood0> nickrud; sorry I don't know what you want me to look for.
[03:32] <amenado> Arnos you can try to use syslinux as the boot loader
[03:32] <ffm_> pawan: it works.
[03:32] <arbir> i tried but i keep getting errors @ Arnos
[03:32] <TheDukeNY> How can I get my internal hard drive to mount when my 3g driver is installed, but it doesnt do it automatically. Is there a way I can do it manually?
[03:32] <ffm_> pawan: better than gutsy.
[03:32] <favoritefood0> nickrud; err...well, I don't know exactly what you want me to look rfor.
[03:32] <arbir> Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.  @ Arnos
[03:32] <pawan> great
[03:32] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I've asked a couple of times, the latest version:   /dev/hdc there , and is any /dev/sc*
[03:33] <Kl4m> Arnos: you could install grub on a floppy. I can boot from USB hard drives with grub
[03:33] <fdsjkalf> trying to download java at near dsl speeds is just unbearable
[03:33] <Shpook> Still no ubuntu+1, huh?
[03:33] <ffm_> pawan: in any case, it's a reccomended upgrade.
[03:33] <Arnos> arbir: did you follow this tutorial? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/04/14/ubuntu-804-usb-hard-drive-install/
[03:33] <Arnos> Kl4m I don't know how to install grub on a floppy
[03:33] <pawan> ya
[03:33] <arbir> nope Arnos.. let me see that link.. i was following another link
[03:33] <Kl4m> Shpook: #ubuntu+1 goes here until development on 8.10 begins
[03:33] <arbir> Arnos i was trying this link --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:34] <pawan> i want to install windows vista on top of ubuntu
[03:34] <sammy> Shpook: keep your pants on :P
[03:34] <nickrud> Shpook give the dev's a chance to party a bit ;)
[03:34] <amenado> arbir that should have worked
[03:34] <arbir> is gone away with Arnos's link
[03:34] <arbir> amenado: i was getting that error
[03:34] <frosken> does anyone have experience with the rt73 wireless driver? im trying to get my usbdongle to work on hardy, but it doesnt show up in networkmanager
[03:34] <amenado> arbir-> what error?
[03:34] <Kl4m> Arnos: when you install Ubuntu, at the last stage, click on the "advanced..." button and install grub on /dev/fd0
[03:34] <favoritefood0> nickrud; in /dev/ I see no sc* file
[03:34] <Shpook> sammy, nickrud: lol I just want to join in on the fun.
[03:34] <arbir> amenado: Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.
[03:35] <Arnos> Kl4m I did
[03:35] <amenado> arbir i dont see that mentioned on that linked you just pasted
[03:35] <VictorB> Kl4m, i gonna wait a few days mayby they solve the problems with FF
[03:35] <ricree> I have a somewhat odd problem.  After upgrading to hardy, my number keys no longer work.  Does anyone have any idea how I can go about troubleshooting that?
[03:35] <arbir> amenado: i nkow, but i am not able to copy my iso to that disk
[03:35] <arbir> it keeps bugging me for making it a bootable partition
[03:35] <TheDukeNY> did fstab change at all?
[03:35] <Arnos> Kl4m: what I want is a floppy that will make a computer boot to a USB that normally can't my USB can already boot itself if the computer supports it
[03:36] <amenado> arbir you have formatted your usb as vfat?
[03:36] <arbir> amenado: it was first fat32, then i formatted to ext2
[03:36] <pawan> when i install windows vista on top of ubuntu it destroys grub
[03:36] <Kl4m> VictorB: They had to put FF 3  because else they would have to support FF2 for 3 years
[03:36] <arbir> amenado: i tried everything....
[03:36] <daning> hi. why I can't download ubuntu 8.04 from ubuntu.com
[03:36] <arbir> now let me try that link Arnos just gave me
[03:36] <Kl4m> VictorB: It will be upgraded when it's released...
[03:36] <Fa> ff3 beta 5 is very stable
[03:36] <amenado> arbir that link says use vfat not fat32 eh?
[03:36] <Toran> OK, I am running ubuntu on a thinkpad x60. I want to use an external keyboard. When I plug it in (USB), though, I can't type on it. A light comes on the keyboard, but my laptop doesn't accept input from it. I tried rebooting with it plugged in, but I had no luck. How can I make this work?
[03:37] <sean_> They're going to be an updated release, hopefully it'll include the final version.
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: when i try to make vfat using parted
[03:37] <Kl4m> Fa Yeah sure but it's a beta
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: parted wont let me make vfat
[03:37] <amenado> arbir unless you have syslinux 3.0
[03:37] <Fa> you can uninstall k14m
[03:37] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ok, look in /var/dmesg , there'll be a section that starts with something like ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 , it describes the recognition of your drives, or you could put the whole thing on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: parted> mkfs 1 vfat does not work
[03:37] <pawan> how to install windows vista
[03:37] <fyrfaktry> lol
[03:37] <Kl4m> Arnos: what is the problem again?
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: i was still on ubuntu 7.10 and i am using what ever version of syslinux that came
[03:38] <amenado> arbir-> then you have to find another tool to make a vfat if gparted dont work for you
[03:38] <Shpook> Well, I'm going to ask this in here then: Are there any issues I should be aware of with the upgrade? Audio, video, network, etc?
[03:38] <nickrud> pawan no trolling
[03:38] <gvieira> my ubuntu is updated, thank you for who helped! :D and congratz to development team
[03:38] <sammy> !dualboot | pawan
[03:38] <ubotu> pawan: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:38] <arbir> amenado: let me look around.. if i cannot get anywhere, i will get back here to post my question
[03:38] <Shpook> Although audio is now run by pulse, i'm sure that will be smooth. I'm in love with pulse audio.
[03:38] <arbir> will you be around amenado /
[03:38] <Arnos> Kl4m: The computer can't boot to a USB, any USB, I want a floppy that will let it
[03:38] <favoritefood0> nickrud; in my /var/ folder there is no /dmesg file or folder...
[03:38] <ricree> Shpook: I had some audio issues, but they were easily solved by changing sound from auto-detect to ALSA
[03:38] <nickrud> favoritefood0 srry, /var/log/dmesg
[03:38] <amenado> arbir no guarantee
[03:39] <scorpfromhell> !partial upgrade|scorpfromhell
[03:39] <Shpook> ricree: That's pretty typical, at least it's nothing major. :-)
[03:39] <Kl4m> Arnos: ok, do you want to boot Ubuntu on usb?
[03:39] <arbir> amenado: no probs.. thanks for the pointer.. thats good enough to keep me RTFM'ing
[03:39] <Kl4m> Or in general
[03:39] <Arnos> KL4m: yes
[03:39] <arbir> thanks a lot amenado
[03:39] <amenado> arbir okay, you're welcome
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> !ext2
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <ricree> Shpook: yeah, I was pretty worried though, since I had a lot of sound problems when Feisty first came out
[03:39] <Fa> ubuntu 8 rocks
[03:39] <XceII> ya
[03:40] <scorpfromhell> what is the partial upgrade after upgrade to hardy that's been taking me ages? :(
[03:40] <Shpook> ricree: I solved my sound problems in feisty by installing pulseaudio.
[03:40] <nickrud> scorpfromhell probably slow servers
[03:40] <Shpook> ricree: But yeah, before that I had a lot of problems too.
[03:40] <Randocal> I'm pretty sure I know the answer.... But if I upgrade to hardy, and somehow it breaks something on my system and things aren't working properly there isn't an uninstall option is there?
[03:40] <obf213> hey, i just upgraded, and of course I am having problems, specifically with the apt-get / synaptic
[03:40] <Arnos> Kl4m:
[03:40] <favoritefood0> nickrud; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64303/
[03:40] <nickrud> Randocal no
[03:40] <Arnos> 1)I want to boot Ubuntu on my USB
[03:40] <Arnos> 2)the computer can't boot to USB normally
[03:40] <Arnos> 3)Therefor I need a floppy that will make my computer boot to USB
[03:40] <Arnos> 4)The floppy would let the computer access the USB which would then boot
[03:40] <FloodBot2> Arnos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <Fa> back up your data before upgrading
[03:40] <arbir> amenado: that link is to install ubuntu on my USB flash drive
[03:41] <amenado> arbir correct
[03:41] <obf213> for some reason they are just not working, i cant apt-get it just hang, i can't install packages it just hangs, i can't add reposistories iether
[03:41] <arbir> amenado: i want to make a USB flash drive,, a ubuntu installer
[03:41] <scorpfromhell> no, am not complaining about slow servers, I am expecting that :) hence torrented the alternate cd
[03:41] <Killeroid> obf213: repos are extra slow
[03:41] <pawan> i am currently running ubuntu now i want to install vista how
[03:41] <arbir> amenado : my laptop's CD drive does not work.. but i can boot with my usb key
[03:41] <Kl4m> !usb > Arnos
[03:41] <Shpook> obf213: What kind of problems? The servers have been extremely slow with the release.
[03:41] <ffm_> obf213: In the mean time, use a mirror.
[03:41] <obf213> Killeroid, is that because of today
[03:41] <amenado> arbir right, and use syslinux to put the loader on it
[03:41] <Killeroid> obf213: yeah, everyone is upgrading
[03:41] <fdsjkalf> i found a mirror that served hardy to me at over 1150KB/s
[03:41] <sammy> obf213: if you can, if you can start synaptic package manager from scratch, before doing anything else, go into the repository setup and have it find the best mirror for you.
[03:41] <arbir> amenado... hold on.. let me put syslinux on it
[03:42] <obf213> Shpook, i just cant apt-get or evne add repositories, if thats the case, I have no problem being patient
[03:42] <obf213> thanks
[03:42]  * jeriath is sad cuz synergy doesnt work with 8.04 :(
[03:42] <fdsjkalf> it was one in sweden, assuming it would be fast since its sweden i clicked it despite being in the us of a
[03:42] <arbir> amenado: will this link do ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:42] <fdsjkalf> and whaddaya know, it was faaaast
[03:42] <Kl4m> Arnos: When you install Ubuntu on the USB drive. you need to install grub on a floppy. On the last install questions, click "advanced..." and install grub on /dev/fd0
[03:42] <Fa> 3 years til upgrade
[03:42] <Fa> lol
[03:42] <scorpfromhell> will hardy work for eeepc?
[03:42] <pawan> hello
[03:42] <nickrud> favoritefood0 you have both sata and pata interfaces?
[03:43] <Shpook> obf213: I would suggest waiting until this time tomorrow, maybe even a day longer, then try. I've been having problems grabbing anything from the repos.
[03:43] <Kl4m> scorpfromhell: you'll want xubuntu for a eeepc
[03:43] <amenado> arbir same one
[03:43] <ffm_> !repomirror is Go to "System>Administration>Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the closest mirror to you automatically.
[03:43] <Shpook> obf213: and when I was able to, they only downloaded at ~15kbps.
[03:43] <favoritefood0> nickrud; Yes, my DVD drive is pata, my hard drive is SATA
[03:43] <Kl4m> !xubuntu
[03:43] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[03:43] <Arnos> Kl4m: fd0 that makes sense, thanks
[03:43] <mgmz> how do i read an Infrared signal and convert to a *.wav?
[03:43] <Fa> i prefer kde with ubuntu
[03:43] <Fa> kde 4
[03:43] <Shpook> ffm_: Good suggestion, I never knew about that. :-)
[03:43] <arbir> how can i tell the version of my syslinux ?
[03:44] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows, I think I need to run some checks as dont know why it wont mount
[03:44] <scorpfromhell> thanks Kl4m
[03:44] <johd> hello
[03:44] <ffm_> How do I make a suggestion to ubotu?
[03:44] <XceII> fa is that what you have, kd4?
[03:44] <ffm_> !repeat | corbett
[03:44] <ubotu> corbett: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:44] <Fa> yeah
[03:44] <Fa> i don't like gnome at all
[03:44] <ffm_> corbett: Also try asking in the forums.
[03:44] <johd> anyone know how i can make firefox stop using swfdec
[03:44] <XceII> does it look good, i may try iy?
[03:44] <ffm_> Fa: Then see #kubuntu
[03:44] <fdsjkalf> whats better, KDE or Gnome?
[03:44] <Fdisk_> hello ive got a kds xf-9b monitor and a nvidia 8600 gt video card and at 1280 x 768 i can only get 60 hz resolution why will it not let me change it to atleast 75 ?
[03:44] <Fa> ffm it's not the same
[03:44] <ffm_> Fdisk_: It's an opinion.
[03:44] <Fa> i prefer to install kde 4 with ubuntu
[03:44] <arbir> fdsjkalf: what is better apple or oranges ?
[03:45] <ffm_> fdsjkalf:  It's an opinion.
[03:45] <Killeroid> fdsjkalf: both are great, depends on personal preference
[03:45] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ok, it looks like your parallel interface is not getting recognized properly, only the hard drive. You should file a bug report, attach that file to it, along with the output of sudo lshw
[03:45] <johd> i completely removed swdec using the synaptic package manager, but FF still uses swdec
[03:45] <jordanjay29> fdsjkalf: Depends on what your preference is. I suggest you try both.
[03:45] <corbett> i am patient
[03:45] <ffm_> Fdisk_: Ooops, mishighlight.
[03:45] <dan_l> Hey everyone
[03:45] <arbir> how can i tell the version of my syslinux
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> i prefer stability over anything
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> thanks for all the replies
[03:45] <Shpook> fdsjkalf: There is no definitive answer. Best advice is to run a week on both.
[03:45] <scorpfromhell> corbett: i had the problems too, can you unplug the usb cable, reboot & then plug the usb back?
[03:45] <Fa> kde4 blows windows out of the water i think
[03:45] <Fa> lol
[03:45] <zoidberg> guys i was wondering if Ubuntu has this g2 class of header files or something for the g++ compiler?
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> is kde4 final now?
[03:45] <zoidberg> i can't find any documentations on it
[03:45] <favoritefood0> thanks nickrud!
[03:46] <dan_l> Ive got 7.10, and heard that the servers are getting hammered right now, is updating from the CD worth it if I can get the torrent
[03:46] <Fa> yeah
[03:46] <foomanchew> servers are tanked
[03:46] <zemonstas> i need help!!
[03:46] <Shpook> fdsjkalf: I was under the assumption KDE4 was coming with 8.04
[03:46] <dan_l> ive heard
[03:46] <Fa> still more bugs to be worked out though
[03:46] <corbett> scorpfromhell: ive done that many times
[03:46] <fyrfaktry> torrents are flying
[03:46] <Fa> 4.1 suppose to be out in the summer time
[03:46] <zemonstas> Removing nvidia-glx-new ...
[03:46] <zemonstas> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[03:46] <osvin> KDE is used in kubuntu
[03:46] <dragobr_> fdsjkalf: it is stable and there is a version of kubuntu 8.04 that has it...
[03:46] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I'm looking at lines 252 through 281
[03:46] <dan_l> Do i need to get the alternate or just the standard image?
[03:46] <Kl4m> scorpfromhell: It seems you can install ubuntu on it, not only xubuntu.
[03:46] <jordanjay29> Fa: Personally, I think Gnome has better qualities than Windows and KDE. Nautilus could be better, but I'll ta.ke a crum(b)y navigation over stupid glitches and bad interface any day
[03:46] <Fa> yes osvin but it's not the same
[03:46] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Yeah, I'm getting 2MiB/s down on them.
[03:46] <fdsjkalf> interesting, this i must check out
[03:47] <osvin> why?
[03:47] <Kl4m> !eeepc > scorpfromhell
[03:47] <ffm_> jordanjay29: Heh, I like thunar?
[03:47] <ffm_> osvin: Why what?
[03:47] <KyleK> !eeepc
[03:47] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[03:47] <Fa> it's not i don't have a problem with kde 4 at all yet
[03:47] <Shpook> ffm_: lucky you, I'm gettin 40kbps lol
[03:47] <jordanjay29> ffm: File manager?
[03:47] <favoritefood0> nickrud; the Maxtor is my hard drive, BENQ is my DVD drive.
[03:47] <Kl4m> !eeepc > Kl4m
[03:47] <osvin> can I install KDE  in ubuntu?
[03:47] <arbir> anybody can help me determine my syslinux version ?
[03:47]  * jburd got 220 Kbps on the torrents. 
[03:47] <DBautell> dan_l, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:47] <fyrfaktry> I pulled the x64 cd in about 15 minutes
[03:47] <ricree> my numberkeys stopped working after the upgrade.  Does anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot?
[03:47] <jordanjay29> osvin: yes, just install all the KDE packages and libraries. Then log out, select KDE from the Options/Sessions menu, and log in
[03:47] <jburd> Yeah, the torrents are definitely faster.  Don't bother with the HTTP servers dan_l
[03:47] <fdsjkalf> from your guyses experience, how long does it take for the archive server load to return to normal?
[03:48] <JoCoProductions> hey guys im having trouble with my feisty instal, upon choosing install the screen goes black except for a single row of pixels that are green at the top
[03:48] <Shpook> osvin: Yes, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <mvinsc> are the really this bogged?
[03:48] <dan_l> thanks DBautell, yeah I saw that, and ive got some blank CDs laying around and dont feel like waiting 94567345986 hours for the servers
[03:48] <ffm_> Shpook: I just have a fat pipe. /me loves FiOS and 15MiBit/s down.
[03:48] <ricree> JoCoProductions: you might want to try the alternate installer
[03:48] <jordanjay29> fdsjkalf: Give it a few days, it's release day today. Servers are going to be slow for a while.
[03:48] <dan_l> DBautell: ive never booted an alternate CD, does it just leave you with a bash shell?
[03:48] <mvinsc> five min and my dl still hasn't started
[03:48] <osvin> ok, and can I install gnome in kubunut?
[03:48] <fyrfaktry> ffm_: u got fios? you stinky :P
[03:48] <fdsjkalf> jordanjay29 ok thanks
[03:48] <JoCoProductions> rich_freecomm what the alternate installer?
[03:49] <Shpook> ffm_: no offense, but i hate you. FiOS isn't available in south florida yet. I've got the money set aside for it though. :-D
[03:49] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ah, I see it. I'd expect it to be further up (mine is)
[03:49] <Starnestommy> osvin: yes
[03:49] <DBautell> dan_l, neither have I, but I understand you can update from within your current setup off the cd
[03:49] <Kl4m> American and Canadian users, you can pummel some Canadian universities mirrors, they're mostly not overloaded
[03:49] <professor_> Any problems with Hardy yet???
[03:49] <Fdisk_> any one now about my resoloution problem /
[03:49] <jordanjay29> osvin: You can install any desktop included in the package manager in any ubuntu or derivate distros
[03:49] <favoritefood0> nickrud; heh, it must have to do with the way my Mobo reports to Ubuntu.
[03:49] <fyrfaktry> shpook: not in North florida either :(
[03:49] <cube> hey all where is the bittorent for 8.04? i can't find it from ubuntu.com
[03:49] <mvinsc> five min for the dl to start. 3 sec for it to complete
[03:49] <DBautell> dan_l, I'm still waiting on the DVD, which just got up to speed
[03:49] <professor_> I got the screen brightness on my laptop fixed
[03:49] <Kl4m> cube: see the channel topic
[03:49] <dan_l> Ok, yeah I guess ill try that.  Should I be worried about updating(aka has anyone reported FUBAR-ing)?
[03:49] <cube> i did
[03:49] <DBautell> cube ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[03:49] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Yes, it's nice. For only 20~ USD more I can get 20Mbits up/down.
[03:49] <nickrud> favoritefood0 could be. I'd still attach that, the lshw, and  ls /dev/s* ,
[03:50] <osvin> What is the best version of Ubuntu for Core2 Duo, i386 or x64?
[03:50] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: We're gonna have to start mail bombing verizon :-)
[03:50] <cube> oh overlooked
[03:50] <dragobr_> hey guys, anyone know how can i uninstall kde4 on 8.04?
[03:50] <ffm_> dragobr_: Synaptic?
[03:50] <professor_> osvin, the i386 version
[03:50] <JoCoProductions> hey guys where can in find insturctions on the alternate install for feisty
[03:50] <fyrfaktry> ffm_: insane :)
[03:50] <jordanjay29> osvin: I'd suggest i386
[03:50] <Zelta> dragobr: In favor of what?
[03:50] <KyleK> why i386?
[03:50] <nickrud> !puregnome | DracoZA
[03:50] <ubotu> DracoZA: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[03:50] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: FTTH is nice in general.
[03:50] <KyleK> im using x86_64 okay now :)
[03:50] <Kl4m> osvin: i386 is the safe one, I use x64 but you can run into problems, wait until you have some Linux experience if you don't.
[03:50] <nickrud> erm, dragobr_ the factoid above I gave to DracoZA was for you
[03:50] <Shpook> Once I get FiOS I can cut down my $260 Comcast bill :-P
[03:50] <Zelta> lol, wrong tab complete?
[03:51] <fyrfaktry> ffm_: i'm sure. I'm still stuck with 6meg DSL
[03:51] <jordanjay29> KyleK: Because of what Kl4m just said ;)
[03:51] <dbristow> ok, zzzz time, I'll check the wubi.exe problem tomorrow
[03:51] <dragobr_> ill see.. but i thought it woudlnt work for kde4
[03:51] <dragobr_> thx
[03:51] <cube> dbautell ty
[03:51] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Nasty.
[03:51] <KyleK> yea i guess i do know what im doing
[03:51] <DBautell> any time
[03:51] <nickrud> dragobr_ if someone has written something, it'll show up there
[03:51] <ricree> anyone know how to troubleshoot keyboard problems?
[03:51] <jordanjay29> that's a good thing, then :P
[03:51] <dan_l> ok thanks for the help everyone
[03:51] <osvin> I run i386 now, but I downloading 8.04 x64  for test
[03:52] <KyleK> bbiab testing a UPS
[03:52] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: Do you have Cox up there?
[03:52] <dan_l> gonna try the upgrade tonight when I get home...
[03:52] <DBautell> thanks, cox! ... :(
[03:52] <Kl4m> jordanjay29, KyleK: Some critical desktop components like Java and flash can be a pain if it breaks for a new user.
[03:52] <fyrfaktry> shpook: yeah, but I work for AT&T lol
[03:52] <osmosis> even if I have an intel core2 processor, should I still use the x386 iso ?
[03:52] <osvin> I hope my system run better
[03:52] <cube> u could use the 64...it says intel
[03:52] <jburd> So techno_freak, don't see you around much these days.  Why?
[03:52] <BubbleTea> LOVE 8.04
[03:52] <Fdisk_> where is the help channel for hardy ?
[03:52] <Starnestommy> Fdisk_: this is it
[03:52] <jordanjay29> Kl4m: Which is why I suggested i386. It's the tried and true version for stability on all modern processors.
[03:52] <DBautell> here
[03:52] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: lol Oh, well i understand then lol. I've almost moved just to switch from comcast to cox
[03:52] <BubbleTea> LOVE IT THANK YOU !
[03:52] <BubbleTea> >,<
[03:53] <osvin> ok
[03:53] <Fdisk_> well ive got a kds xf-9b monitor and a nvidia 8600 gt video card and at 1280 x 768 i can only get 60 hz resolution why will it not let me change it to atleast 75 ?
[03:53] <fyrfaktry> shpook: yeah, cox is pretty solid
[03:53] <dragobr_> yep, there arent instructions for kde4 =/.. but thx anyway
[03:53]  * BubbleTea holds up a 'Free hug sign
[03:53] <seamus7> osmosis yes
[03:53] <Kl4m> osvin: I think it runs faster but that's probably a placebo effect
[03:53] <KyleK> Kl4m: flash wasn't a problem, java was a bit of one with the arduino environment
[03:53] <osvin> ok
[03:53] <Kl4m> Yeah BTW how do I get the sun-java-plugin on AMD64?
[03:54] <Kl4m> I still don't know
[03:54] <Shpook> Kl4m: Good luck.
[03:54] <osvin> I 'll run ubuntu 8.04 i386
[03:54] <jordanjay29> Kl4m: not in the package manager?
[03:54] <Shpook> Kl4m: I had many issues with java in feisty 64-bit
[03:54] <kilrae> is it just me, or does the installer seem to lack a way to mount an encrypted volume without erasing what is in it?
[03:54] <ripps> So this channel is still open?
[03:54] <obf213> i heard a rumor a while ago that ubuntu now had one command to install all the mp3 flash restricted stuff etc
[03:55] <jordanjay29> kilrae: Why don't you mount after installation? So long as you're not installing to that volume
[03:55] <Kl4m> ripps: are you coming from #ubuntu+1 ? if so you've just been redirected to #ubuntu
[03:55] <dragobr_> obf213: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <jordanjay29> obf213: sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <kilrae> ah, but what if i am installing to an LVM in that volume
[03:55] <Shpook> ARGH. The anticipation is killing me. Only 5.75 hours left until the upgrade is downloaded.
[03:55] <ripps> oh, I didn't realize
[03:55] <jordanjay29> oops, missed a line, use dragobr's
[03:55] <dragobr_> :)
[03:56] <Surrealwraith> Hey.  Just installed 8.04 on my IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60, i386.  When I close the laptop, then open it again, the screen becomes all "messed up" and I need to do a hard system shutdown.  Any suggestions?
[03:56] <Shpook> I'm switching to offtopic to keep this channel cleaner, I'll be back and forth.
[03:56] <famicom> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmltv/xmltv_0.5.51.orig.tar.gz
[03:56] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: Adjust your power settings, I think.
[03:56] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[03:56] <famicom> WHY ARE THESE FSCKING SERVERS DEAD
[03:56] <twinkie_addict> how di enable the desktop cube in 8.04 ?
[03:56] <kelvin911> how many of you here use compiz fusion?
[03:56] <nickrud> famicom cuz everyone (including you) is hammering them ;)
[03:56] <jordanjay29> famicom: it's release day, and thousands of people are trying to download the latest version. Give it a break and come back in a day or so
[03:56] <Surrealwraith> That didn't work when I had the same problem on the beta, but I'll try.  Thanks
[03:56] <warriorforgod> famicom: they are not dead.  Many people are download 8.04 using up a lot of bandwidth.
[03:56]  * famicom sakes fist
[03:56] <osvin> kelvin91: I use compiz
[03:56] <Kl4m> famicom: Use a canadian educational mirror, they don't seem to have any problem
[03:57] <Shpook> !offtopic
[03:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:57] <Surrealwraith> Yeah, the download took hours
[03:57] <twinkie_addict> torent is fast
[03:57] <calc> famicom: aiui the servers do at least several gigabit, so for them to be overloaded means large amounts of people are downloading
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: does your video playback flicking sometimes?
[03:57] <famicom> Kl4m does that have the sources
[03:57] <Shpook> CRAP
[03:57] <calc> famicom: use the torrents
[03:57] <Surrealwraith> Comcast makes torrents impossible..
[03:57] <jwwadk> hello all, does anyone know how to add hotkey support for an asus laptop?
[03:57] <famicom> calc are you braindead
[03:57] <osvin> kevin911: no
[03:57] <milly1234> twinkie_addict, install compizconfig settings manager
[03:57] <famicom> im trying to get a source package
[03:57] <goat|work> apt-torrent be nice by default
[03:57] <jwwadk> mine cut out after i installed hardy
[03:57] <osvin> kevin911: run fine
[03:57] <famicom> not a whole iso
[03:57] <johd> anyone know how i can remove swfdec plugin so that firefox will stop using it
[03:57] <szx0> Is there a way to kick every other users off a server besides yourself ?
[03:57] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[03:57] <nickrud> famicom system->admin -> software sources , download from : choose other, and a local mirror
[03:57] <calc> famicom: then use a mirror
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: it is not that visible sometimes
[03:57] <doolz> Darkphyre, what graphics card?
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: but it isnt as smooth as it is in windows
[03:57] <nickrud> !attitude | famicom
[03:57] <ubotu> famicom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:58] <p28301016> how can i upgrade to the hardy version with ap-get
[03:58] <Surrealwraith> Mine cut out after 30 seconds.  I called and they said Ubuntu is illegal anyway, so I should stop trying...
[03:58] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: You sure? I just adjusted my settings, closed my lid and opened again. It does nothing, as I instructed it too. And, yeah, comcast is a pain in the [you know where] for torrents.
[03:58] <famicom> !care | nickrud
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about care - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Kl4m> famicom: usherbrooke seems to have source
[03:58]  * calc notes this channel scrolls so fast he didn't even see famicom was talking about sources
[03:58] <Darkphyre> 6600GT, doolz. the drivers are installed. but my monitor isn't being recognized.
[03:58] <osvin> kevin911: Maybe your video card is slow
[03:58] <famicom> Kl4m ah thatnks
[03:58] <nickrud> p28301016 if you want to use the command line, use    do-release-upgrade
[03:58] <twinkie_addict> thanks
[03:58] <kelvin911> osvin: my video card is 7600GT 256mb
[03:58] <kelvin911> it is perfect in windows
[03:58] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: Comcast is currently being a [female dog] when it comes to bittorrent.
[03:58] <famicom> calc next time make sure your brain is in gear before engaging mouth
[03:59] <kelvin911> i wonder if it is compiz that is causing it
[03:59] <calc> famicom: if you just use a country code server it probably points back to the main server as well, eg us.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <p28301016> thanks nickruk
[03:59] <doolz> Darkphyre, do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[03:59] <Surrealwraith> Yeah, it's happening again.. I can't even see the window.  Just lots fo lines and colors. brb, need to restat.
[03:59] <calc> famicom: i'm sure i don't know much i only maintain openoffice :-P
[03:59] <osvin> kevin911: I don't know what is the problem
[03:59] <nickrud> calc eh, that's nothing to crow about ;)
[03:59]  * nickrud runs
[03:59] <Darkphyre> doolz, yes. but it isn't letting me go over 640x480 either.
[03:59] <pawan> can we install vista on top of ubuntu
[03:59] <calc> nickrud: :-P
[03:59] <jwwadk> does anyone know about brightness sliders not showing up in the gnome power manager?
[03:59] <famicom> calc and i maintain a whole other bunch of packages
[03:59] <Shpook> Real quick, can I just ask everyone to stop upgrading until mine is finished? :-P
[03:59] <fyrfaktry> hush it pawan
[03:59] <famicom> lawl
[03:59] <calc> famicom: i used to maintain about 300 packages
[04:00] <jordanjay29> pawan: No. You can dual boot or overwrite your ubuntu installation.
[04:00] <famicom> calc for ubuntu  or debian?
[04:00] <calc> famicom: but OOo is about equal to all of them combined in pita to do
[04:00] <osvin> kevin911: My Lenovo R61 has Intel x300 video card and run very fine
[04:00] <kelvin911> pawan: or try virtual box
[04:00] <calc> famicom: debian
[04:00] <famicom> ah ok
[04:00] <arc_shmoo> how do you get emerald installed on 8.04?
[04:00] <calc> famicom: but you can look at various packages in ubuntu and see my changelog entries still
[04:00] <jordanjay29> pawan: Oh, sorry, forgot about VMware
[04:00] <famicom> calc well personally i cant stand most of these ubuntards
[04:00] <pawan> i want to keep my existing ubuntu installation and wanna install vista
[04:00] <arc_shmoo> sudo apt-get install emerald doesnt work
[04:00] <Darkphyre> doolz, yes. but it isn't letting me go over 640x480 either.
[04:00] <famicom> but for the desktop it's nice
[04:00] <yago> does anyone has the torrent of kubuntu 8.04?
[04:00] <jordanjay29> yago: channel topic
[04:01] <nickrud> famicom insults for anyone are not tolerated. Last warning
[04:01] <johd> Noone here knows how to completely get rid of the mozilla swfdec plugin so that firefox will stop using it?
[04:01] <famicom> amyhow i', leaving before i get a permaban for not joining in their circle jerk of being helpfull
[04:01] <Kl4m> calc: not in Canada ca.archive.ubuntu.com = mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
[04:01]  * calc doesn't bother with getting releases on release day, he downloads them a few days before :)
[04:01] <kelvin911> osvin: i wonder how much effect u turn on?
[04:01] <calc> Kl4m: ah that is good news then :)
[04:01] <x1250> calc, me too :)
[04:01] <Liquidy> Darkphyre:  using 8.04 you cannot change yo res. with a 6600GT?
[04:01] <calc> Kl4m: which is why you should check the ip address :)
[04:01] <jordanjay29> johd: uninstall the package
[04:01] <thezanke> anyone have any idea why all of my windows want to spawn underneath my application bar? thus hiding the ablilty to drag them.. i have to use alt+drag to get them out... the bar is still there... not a windows decoration issue
[04:01] <Darkphyre> Liquidy, yes.
[04:01] <johd> I already uninstalled it
[04:01] <x1250> hey calc, I thought ibex was starting today?
[04:01] <mrbird> how can i go about updating from the hardy beta to the hardy release?
[04:01] <XceII> Darkphyre:  try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       at your next boot
[04:02] <calc> Kl4m: not sure why we don't have a mirror in the US (or didn't last time I checked) that is pointed to by us.a.u.c
[04:02] <orthodoc> my grub menu still displays the developmental branch...
[04:02] <nickrud> mrbird just start the update manager
[04:02] <Liquidy> you're using those "Restricted" drivers?
[04:02] <Darkphyre> yes
[04:02] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:02] <jordanjay29> johd: how about from the Firefox plugins area?
[04:02] <lee_> Is there no #Ubuntu+1 yet?
[04:02] <orthodoc> does it mean i am not upgraded??
[04:02] <osvin> kevin911: I enabled extra effectds
[04:02] <moon2js> my upgrade to Hardy from Gutsy hangs at "Preparing to install." I've tried upgrading from an alt cd and from the repos, but both hang at the same part. Any ideas? I'd rather not do a full reinstall if possible.
[04:02] <calc> x1250: well it should start by next week anyway since toolchain is noted to be uploaded by then
[04:02] <nickrud> orthodoc no, just means you have the latest kernel
[04:02] <calc> x1250: as soon as it is I will be uploading OOo 3.0 beta (assuming it builds)
[04:02] <johd> lets see
[04:02] <kelvin911> i wonder how to make new open window spawn on top of the screen instead of at the bottom of the screen
[04:03] <mrbird> nickrud: thanks
[04:03] <nickrud> orthodoc try lsb_release -a ,
[04:03] <kelvin911> because the docking icons are on the way most of the time
[04:03] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: can you lspci and paste the "video" line here?
[04:03] <calc> x1250: OOo 3.0 beta is supposed to be out on Apr 30
[04:03] <Kl4m> calc: what are those us.a.u.c servers anyway? dedicated for ubuntu?
[04:03] <arc_shmoo> so... you cant install any of the normal apps on 8.04 yet i guess
[04:03] <x1250> calc, great
[04:03] <PMantis> I can't get the dvd IDO torrent file from here... any other links?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:03] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: i cant paste anything. its on my other pc.
[04:03] <twinkie_addict> i may have to wait the repose are being hit so hard i cant fetch compizconfig or any thing else , i was lucky it seems to get my nvidia drivers via add remove
[04:03] <PMantis> s/IDO/ISO
[04:03] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: What do you call "noraml apps"?
[04:03] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: i'll try to type it
[04:03] <orthodoc> thanks nickrud
[04:03] <calc> Kl4m: there are no us.archive.ubuntu.com servers really, they are the same ones in London that are the main archive
[04:04] <mortal1> I was wondering, given that many documents are displayed best at 8.5 x 11 format, is there any way to quickly grow the window to that size?
[04:04] <orthodoc> i'll try that...
[04:04] <Kl4m> calc: oh that's bad...
[04:04] <calc> Kl4m: it just happens that the London colo has really good bandwdith
[04:04] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:04] <nickrud> one off topic question: calc does the beta handle office docx/xlsx better now? (please, please say yes so I don't have to run the darned vm as much)
[04:04] <ricree> When I try to enable normal desktop effects, it says "The Composite Extension is Not Available".  Any suggestions?
[04:04] <kelvin911> which picture viewer is the best?
[04:04] <calc> nickrud: no idea, i haven't tested it yet
[04:04] <arc_shmoo> ﻿jordanjay29: wine and emerald so far im sure ill find more as i try to get it up to date but ive had it up for 30 min so far
[04:04] <kelvin911> i want something similar to ACDSee 2.4
[04:04] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: there is no "video" line
[04:04] <calc> nickrud: 3.0 will be the first time upstream OOo supports Office 2007 formats at all though
[04:04] <Fdisk_> does anybody have any idea how to fix this crazy resoloution problem ??
[04:04] <kelvin911> but all picture viewer i try dont open image at normal size
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: i'm sure it will take a while to shake out most of the bugs
[04:05] <johd> well
[04:05] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: restate please?
[04:05] <nickrud> calc I'll have to try, all but one person in my office kindly uses the old format to humor me
[04:05] <MattJ> arc_shmoo: sudo apt-get install emerald works for me (8.04)
[04:05] <johd> installing adobe plugin fixed it i suppose
[04:05] <johd> thanks
[04:05] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: I've got both wine and emerald installed now. Use Synaptic
[04:05] <jordanjay29> johd: glad you could get it working
[04:05] <PMantis> An live link available for this?  ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: when upstream is provided example documents that are displayed wrong they seem to fix them pretty fast (for next release)
[04:05] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:05] <milly1234> ricree, enable restricted drivers for your video card
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: at least in the past for eg the old Microsoft formats
[04:05] <arc_shmoo> ﻿jordanjay29: im going to fall on a rusty spork now
[04:05] <nickrud> calc great. I'll pass on the ones I can
[04:05] <jumpkick> does anyone how a how-to for doing a dist upgrade with low disk free?
[04:05] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: "VGA compatible controller: nvidia corporation nv43 [geforce 6600 gt]
[04:06] <orthodoc> nickrud: returns no lsb modules available
[04:06] <twinkie_addict> ﻿ PMantis: see topic the link is there
[04:06] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: don't worry, everybody gets mind blanks
[04:06] <Fdisk_> ive got a nvidia 8600 gt card and a kds xf-9b monitor and at 1280 x768 i can only get 60hz and need atleast 75
[04:06] <Surrealwrait1> back.  Changing the power settings didn't help
[04:06] <calc> nickrud: don't start filing bugs about it until 3.0 beta is in though
[04:06] <kelvin911> how to check which video card driver i am using?
[04:06] <nickrud> orthodoc lsb_release -a in ubuntu says that?
[04:06] <Fdisk_> im running hardy with nvidia driver
[04:06] <calc> nickrud: the Office 2007 support in 8.04 isn't from official OOo
[04:06] <ricree> milly1234: the hardware drivers program says that they are in use
[04:06] <arc_shmoo> ﻿jordanjay29: thanks
[04:06] <kelvin911> is it dmesg ?
[04:06] <arbir_> is back with an alias
[04:06] <pipegeek> first of all, congrats on hardy :)
[04:06] <kelvin911> find "NVIDIA" | dmesg ??
[04:06] <nickrud> calc no, I'll be waiting till the beta. (and I wondered why some worked, thanks a bunch :)
[04:06] <kelvin911> what is the exact command?
[04:06] <osvin> kevin911: in your xorg.conf
[04:06] <arbir_> i installed syslinux but how can i tell the version ?
[04:06] <orthodoc> nickrud: do i then modify the grub menu by myself
[04:07] <nickrud> orthodoc sure
[04:07] <calc> nickrud: what is in Ubuntu OOo is some stuff that Novell/SUSE wrote (aiui)
[04:07] <ricree> milly1234: any other suggestions?
[04:07] <mondayrocks> ahoy ahoy.
[04:07] <nickrud> orthodoc but 'no lsb modules available' bothers me
[04:07] <calc> nickrud: i'm hoping the 3.0 beta stuff will be much improved, but i don't know its status
[04:07] <pipegeek> That said, the update tool is just sitting there doing nothing and consuming no cpu, and it's been doing so for half an hour.... any idea what's up?
[04:07] <ricree> milly1234: or is there someplace that I can make sure my card is compatible?
[04:07] <orthodoc> oh dear!
[04:07] <PMantis> twinkie_addict: That's the *desktop* ISO... I'm looking for the *DVD* ISO torrent.
[04:07] <harriseldon> kelvin911 system->administration->restricted drivers manager
[04:07] <twinkie_addict> oh sorry
[04:07] <orthodoc> nickrud: so do i keep running upgrades?
[04:08] <DBautell> PMantis, ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[04:08] <Fdisk_> ????
[04:08] <calc> nickrud: you can also if you feel like it install upstream OOo for Linux (or Windows) and file bugs directly in official OOo issue tracker, to take Ubuntu out of the loop, which does slow down response a bit
[04:08] <orthodoc> nickrud: possibly the servers are running full steam...so all the upgrading is taking time
[04:08] <compaqr4000> I'm trying to run open office calc via ssh and I get the following on one of my machines: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display:  Any ideas why this is?  It works fine on another machine.
[04:08] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: my server reboots at this hour, it holds over 3000 clients
[04:08] <IcemanV9> orthodoc: you need to add "-a" to the end of the command, lsb_release
[04:08] <nickrud> calc I've been using it since staroffice 5.0, and am very happy. Just some virulent window aficianados
[04:08] <pipegeek> I click "upgrade" from the update manager, then click "upgrade" in the resulting dialog, then it just sits there with 0 progress "downloading file 1 of 2".  I'm using the mirror at ussg.
[04:08] <kelvin911> what is going on ??? http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1dd3.png
[04:08] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: you fixed that?
[04:08] <sahak> hello
[04:08] <kelvin911> quick search out of date?
[04:08] <sahak> today Ubuntu 8.04 was released
[04:08] <sahak> congratulations
[04:08] <orthodoc> IcemanV9: I did that
[04:08] <nickrud> calc I already know that, I always check the debian bts as well before filing the few I do
[04:08] <]grimm[> Are there any known issues with Hardy and nvidia cards?  I just installed Hardy without a hitch in three 64 bit machines with nvidia cards but it's hanging up on an i386 install (which was working fine in Gutsy).  I can't seem to use the restricted (non-free) nvidia driver (preferable) nor can I use the nv driver, it just keep taking me back to the "safe mode" screen.  Any ideas?
[04:09] <kelvin911> should i cancel or disable quick search .  please see http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1dd3.png
[04:09] <orthodoc> IcemanV9: lsb_modules -a
[04:09] <calc> nickrud: if you do that though make sure they understand you are using their version of OOo instead of Ubuntu (or they will probably close the bug)
[04:09] <latitu> some thing fishy is going on.. i upgraded to hardy beta a week a go. and from 2 days ago. adept said iam fully updated. today hardy is released and adept (apt) still saying iam upto date...  ?
[04:09] <rodolfo> hi folks; I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu from the cd but once the cd is inserted no upgrade dialog window pops up...what should I do?
[04:09] <milly1234> ricree, if you have an nvidia card I had to install nvidia-glx-new, if you have something newer, nvidia-glx for something a little older, and nvidia-glx-old for older cards
[04:09] <calc> nickrud: before i report any bugs upstream i have to verify them against the official OOo build, which is part of the reason it takes extra time
[04:09] <IcemanV9> orthodoc: oh. modules. ah. that is different. gotcha. my mistake.
[04:09] <PMantis> DBautell: Thank you, but that's still just desktop and alternate, NOT the dvd iso torrent.
[04:09] <pipegeek> clicking "cancel" has no effect.
[04:10] <nickrud> calc I don't file bugs there, I just check to see if they exist. If they do, I tend to leave them alone (unless there's a patch that hasn't made it into ubuntu)
[04:10] <sahak> where can I find statistics about how many Ubuntu iso images have been downloaded? and in general some statistics about how many Ubuntu users there are?
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: ok :)
[04:10] <pipegeek> should I just not be using the upgrade tool?
[04:10] <snadge> my father has a problem installing 8.04 on an amd/nvidia motherboard.. apparently the IDE drive shows up as scsi now, and at the point where ubuntu tries to format the swap partitions (it gives you no choice not to) it fails.. and loops back to the partitioning part whether you select "go back" or "continue" .. any advice?
[04:10] <kelvin911> harriseldon: the restricted driver manager dont gimme the driver version
[04:10] <DBautell> PMantis, you're right, sorry...
[04:10] <milly1234> ricree, sorry for the delay, I am lagged pretty bad because of a lack in bandwidth
[04:10] <Kl4m> ricree: instead, go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers and install the nvidia stuff
[04:10] <nickrud> calc been using debian since 2001, I am very aware of 'politics' ;)
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: ah :)
[04:10] <dragobr_> titu: thats normal...
[04:10] <arbir_> can anybody tell me what is this version number ? Version: 1:3.36-4ubuntu5
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: i used it since jul 98 and a DD since jul 2000
[04:10] <arbir_> is this version 1.3 ? or 3.36 ?
[04:10] <DBautell> PMantis, http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[04:11] <Starnestommy> arbir_: 3.36
[04:11] <kelvin911> how to check video card driver version # ?
[04:11] <gopp> can I install linux on a external usb hard drive using  wubi
[04:11] <arbir_> thanks Starnestommy
[04:11] <arbir_> Starnestommy: so i can installed syslinux under FAT32
[04:11] <calc> nickrud: so you have been using debian almost as long as me :)
[04:11] <nickrud> calc yes, I've seen you before.
[04:11] <pipegeek> upgrading from gutsy i686
[04:11] <calc> nickrud: i used to maintain KDE for debian among other things
[04:11] <milly1234> Kl4m, for some reason when I did that it told me it was already installed when it was not
[04:11] <Kl4m> gopp: what an interesting question. I guess it would work
[04:11] <snadge> is there a way you can either skip the swap formatting part during the install? or will i be forced to use alternate installer.. or even a way to disable the IDE drive from showing up completely (its not needed) ?
[04:11] <pipegeek> half the time update-manager freezes as soon as I click the "upgrade" button
[04:12] <kelvin911> is hardy out?
[04:12] <Kl4m> gopp: but why would you do that?
[04:12] <nickrud> calc but I have to admit I broke completely on warty. The promise of a stable unstable was just too alluring
[04:12] <rodolfo> I'm out of ideas could I get some help please?
[04:12] <latitu> some thing fishy is going on.. i upgraded to hardy beta a week a go. and from 2 days ago. adept said iam fully updated. today hardy is released and adept (apt) still saying iam upto date...  ?
[04:12] <hylinux> hi, everyone, how to upgrade my hardy beta version to stable version?
[04:12] <sahak> kelvin911: yes it is out.
[04:12] <Kl4m> kelvin911: ubuntu.com
[04:12] <gopp> k14, becuase that the drive with the most space
[04:12] <kelvin911> how to update?
[04:12] <dragobr_> latitu: thats normal...
[04:12] <PMantis> DBautell: Perfect, thansk!
[04:12] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[04:12] <calc> nickrud: i switched to Ubuntu during warty beta as well
[04:12] <gopp> !wubi
[04:12] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[04:12] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[04:12] <riskbreaker> hey guys. is there a way to set a gamma correction option in ubuntu hardy?
[04:12] <Fdisk_> somebody please help a po white boy just trying to use hardy 8.04 lol
[04:12] <kelvin911> should i update?
[04:12] <hylinux> hi, any idea about my issue?
[04:12] <sahak> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ statistics seems to be incorrect. Is there correct torrent statistics for Ubuntu?
[04:12] <kelvin911> because i know "if it aint broken, dont fix it"
[04:13] <hylinux> how to upgrade from beta version to stable version?
[04:13] <kelvin911> last time i try to update wine, it is screwed up
[04:13] <Utalcn2me> how does one get pulseaudio to work?
[04:13] <hylinux> will I change the package source?
[04:13] <dragobr_> latitu: use cat /etc/issue to see if there is no "dev version" printed.. if not, you are using the hardy final.. simply there were no updates on this last two days
[04:13] <sahak> hylinux: I don't think you need to do anything
[04:13] <jrib> !final > hylinux (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:13] <nickrud> calc hah! your nick was familiar, but I only know did a whois. Yeah, I do know you ;)
[04:13] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: can you get a console? (re: 75Hz)
[04:13] <XceII> Darkphyre:  as i stated before......sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       at your next boot
[04:13] <kelvin911> what is the different between hardy and gutsy?
[04:13] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: by pressing ctrl+alt+F2
[04:13] <Fdisk_> yes i can get a consoule
[04:13] <calc> nickrud: ah
[04:13] <PMantis> Nice, 7 torrents running. Most are done, I'll leave them up to help out.
[04:13] <sahak> kelvin911: hardy is better
[04:14] <kelvin911> are there any performance boost?
[04:14] <dragobr_> latitu: the last updated RC version of two days ago is pratically the hardy final
[04:14] <kelvin911> how better?
[04:14] <krasher> hey i can't put my nvidia FX-5200 to work in 1024x768 in Hardy Heron... i've installed the restricted module but i can't choose the resolution on resolution configuration... i used this videocard in Gusty and in Windows at 1024x768 without any problem... when i choose 1024x768, it gives me incorrectly refresh rates... i use 60hz... but i get to choose 51 or 50hz
[04:14] <latitu> Dragnslcr Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l
[04:14] <hylinux> thanks , sahak, jrib
[04:14] <latitu> dragobr_ Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l
[04:14] <calc> nickrud: yep had this nick for 10 years now on freenode (about 3-4 years before that elsewhere)
[04:14] <nickrud> kelvin911 refinement, much better wireless (for me) and
[04:14] <dragobr_> latitu: so you are on hardy final :)
[04:14] <kelvin911> if it only fix the wireless issue then i am going for it, i am using desktop here
[04:14] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: log in and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" try to setup your monitor with the questions there. Leave the defaults (or nothing) for non-monitor questions
[04:14] <latitu> dragobr_ really ?: )
[04:14] <chubs730> krasher use the nvidia tool
[04:14] <kelvin911> i mean not
[04:14] <sahak> kelvin911: everything is better man (Lord of thermodynamics)
[04:14] <krasher> wish nvidia tool?
[04:15] <pipegeek> I get the impression that it's trying to connect to ftp.us.ubuntu.com, even though I told it not to
[04:15] <pipegeek> I'll run an strace
[04:15] <dragobr_> latitu: yep.. there were no updates on this last two days, just that :)
[04:15] <kelvin911> sahak: like what?
[04:15] <kelvin911> gimme me some concrete exmple
[04:15] <PMantis> We need more people on the DVD ISO torrent - 28 days to completion??  http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:15] <arbir_> when i try to transfer myimage to my USB stick , i keep getting an error, can anybody help ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64304/
[04:15] <latitu> Dragnslcr hm
[04:15] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: be aware that you can break a CRT monitor with wrong values. You must know what you're doing
[04:15] <latitu> dragobr_ thanks
[04:15] <rainrunner87> Hi.  Anyone having any trouble poking the repos?
[04:15] <nickrud> calc I never irc'd until xchat dropped me here. I did bbs stuff a long time ago. I flamed much more effectively than most stuff I've seen on debian-devel. Another reason I changed
[04:15] <dragobr_> latitu: nop
[04:15] <krasher> which nvidia tools?
[04:15] <kelvin911> can someone post the DVD iso or CD iso to rapidshare?
[04:15] <Fdisk_> i got the book right with me
[04:16] <latitu> dragobr_ nop ?
[04:16] <HardyOne> PMantis: I am downloading torrent now
[04:16] <DBautell> PM, it took a long time to break 30k over here... It's still not up to speed, really
[04:16] <sahak> kelvin911: Firefox 3 for example.
[04:16] <Kl4m> kelvin911: it's too big.
[04:16] <ryanhedge> Hello there I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 but it seems a ton of packages are missing. Also I can't seem to update my repository. Is this due to heavy traffic?
[04:16] <kelvin911> i think ubuntu should post their file on rapidshare  or sites like that
[04:16] <blueeyesmike> Hi, just upgraded and I've noticed that now my power button and closing the lid on my laptop don't do anything? The event gets logged in /var/log/acpid but nothing happens. This is on a dell inspiron 6000
[04:16] <chai_> hi all... sound issues here... audacious, my music player, works fine, but nothing else has sound
[04:16] <osmosis> still no luck for me on ubuntu 8.04 with nvidia
[04:16] <dragobr_out> latitu: it was nothing.. glad to help
[04:16] <PMantis> HardyOne: Thanks! It's up to 64 days now. :(
[04:16] <krasher> i only have to choose nvidia-xconfig and nothing more... i'm a completely n00b at ubuntu... but i'm not blind to have to use it at 640x480
[04:16] <kelvin911> it is way faster to download from rapidshare
[04:16] <nickrud> calc anyway nice talking to you. </offtopic> ;)
[04:16] <sahak> kelvin911: why can't you use bittorrent?
[04:16] <chubs730> krasher: open a command line and type sudo nvidia-glx-config
[04:16] <kilrae> bah, no wireless
[04:16] <mindframe> how do i get the networking applet to appear ?
[04:16] <pipegeek> Yeah.  It's trying to connect to 91.189.92.2, which whois tells me is owned by canonical, and just sitting there.  Any way to change this behavior?
[04:16] <kelvin911> because rapidshare is way faster
[04:16] <chai_> mindframe, launch application nm-applet
[04:16] <krasher> chubs730: i don't have this program
[04:16] <Kl4m> kelvin911: Does rapidshare accept 700MB file even with an ultra-super-premium account
[04:16] <osmosis> how do I get my driver to show in System -> Hardware Drivers. It doesnt show anymore since I tried to install nvidia-glx manually with synaptic.
[04:17] <sahak> kelvin911: there are thousands of seeder on bittorrent right now, I don't think you will have problems with speed.
[04:17] <kelvin911> u can cut it up to seven 100 mb files
[04:17] <nickrud> kelvin911 you should try the torrents, they are really good right now
[04:17] <orven> any suggestions on a good newsreader/nzb downloader?
[04:17] <Jasone> does anyone here have vnc4serever going on xubuntu 8.04
[04:17] <nickrud> orven pan is best of breed in linux
[04:17] <kelvin911> i can download 7 100 mb files in 15 minutes
[04:17] <chubs730> krasher: and you've installed the nvidia drivers? perhaps it's different on 8.04, i'll see if i can find anything
[04:17] <Adriana_Bestova> hi
[04:17] <Kl4m> kelvin911: oh please. there are enough mirrors already. if all else fails use a canadian mirror
[04:18] <HardyOne> PMantis: going to take a couple hours or so to start seeding though :/
[04:18] <arbir_> i keep getting this error
[04:18] <arbir_> Partition isn't marked bootable!
[04:18] <PMantis> kelvin911: Perhaps I'm on the wrong torrent? ubuntu dvd i386?
[04:18] <calc> nickrud: ok
[04:18] <sahak> kelvin911: can you try bittorrent and tell us what speed you are getting?
[04:18] <orven> i downloaded ubuntu 8.04 from usenet in about 4 minutes...
[04:18] <aslaen> hey guys.... are the servers just hammered because of the release of hardy or what? when I try to aptitude update, it says it can't contact hardy-backports repo as well as other repo's, but it is contacting some of them...
[04:18] <kelvin911> download dvd iso with bt is slow
[04:18] <nickrud> arbir_ that makes no sense, it doesn't matter to linux if the partition is bootable. Where do you see that?
[04:18] <Kl4m> PMantis: did you get it from ubuntu.com or elsewhre
[04:18] <blankhead> man the nvidia-settings plugin helped me out alot i was messing with the xorg...why dont u guys include that when u enable nvidia driver....u should have that setting installed automatically i could've saved hours of my time
[04:18] <krasher> chubs730: i've installed the restricted module... but when i go to resolution configuration, i got incorrect refresh rates
[04:18] <warriorforgod> aslaen: yes
[04:18] <blueeyesmike> ﻿Hi, just upgraded and I've noticed that now my power button and closing the lid on my laptop don't do anything? The event gets logged in /var/log/acpid but nothing happens. This is on a dell inspiron 6000
[04:19] <arbir_> nickrud:  here is the detail --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64304/
[04:19] <PMantis> Kl4m: Got it from here, since the cdimage.ubuntu.com link is dead for me  http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:19] <Fa> weeeeeeeeeee
[04:19] <aslaen> warriorforgod: so just keep trying or should I wait a few hours?
[04:19] <XceII> lol
[04:19] <kelvin911> direct dl is way faster and no need to worry about no seed
[04:19] <blankhead> or throw a dog a bone with a pop saying u sh ould install nvidia settings
[04:19] <Fa> i'm gonna see :P
[04:19] <Fa> seed
[04:19] <dini> how to increase my download in ubuntu
[04:19] <Kl4m> PMantis: hmm are you sure it's an official & up to date torrent
[04:19] <sahak> PMantis: I think CD image is better
[04:19] <avayanis_> hi all, just curious if anyone has had any issues installing 8.04 server?  I get this kernel requires a feature not present on this cpu on my pentium M laptop
[04:19] <XceII> blankhead:  which plugin was that?
[04:19] <dini> how to increase my download speed in ubuntu
[04:19] <warriorforgod> aslaen: either or.  I updated to the RC 2 days ago, but have been seeing lag when using apt-get.  I just keep trying.
[04:19] <kelvin911> what is in DVD iso?
[04:19] <arbir_> nickrud:  i am trying to make a bootble USB stick to install ubuntu
[04:20] <osmosis> how do I get my driver to show in System -> Hardware Drivers. It doesnt show anymore since I tried to install nvidia-glx manually with synaptic.
[04:20] <juano__> where can i find nvidia drivers for hardy? i tried enabling the binary driver but it still says "not in use"
[04:20] <Kl4m> PMantis: and really. who needs the DVD?
[04:20] <calc> dini: pick a faster mirror
[04:20] <osmosis> juano__: thats what I want to know.
[04:20] <nickrud> arbir_ ah, I see. do the commands it gives you. Special case ;)
[04:20] <tarkus> can someone help me get postgresql running? i installed postgresql and tried createdb, but apparently the server isnt running, any ideas?
[04:20] <aslaen> warriorforgod: ok cool.. ya I've been running the beta for a few weeks now, and haven't seen problems until today.
[04:20] <pipegeek> What is the upgrade tool trying to download, and is it possible to convince it to download it from a different location?
[04:20] <ryanhedge> So the apt servers are getting a ton of traffic then?
[04:20] <Utalcn2me> anyone know howto get pulseaudio to work in xubuntu?
[04:20] <arbir_> nickrud:  if i do that commands i get a different error
[04:20] <calc> dini: most mirrors are slow today if that is what you are trying to do
[04:20] <runlevel> anyone able to get the logitech dinovo edge/mini dinovo working?
[04:20] <zoidberg> guys i cannot install sdl1.2-dev
[04:20] <arbir_> nickrud:  wait let me tell me you what i get
[04:20] <Bubble_tea> How i install Chinese supported languages?
[04:20] <osmosis> juano__: join #nvidia
[04:20] <nickrud> arbir_ those are the real errors then
[04:20] <juano__> osmosis: ok i'm there
[04:20] <chubs730> krasher: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[04:20]  * calc bbl, can't read this fast while doing other work
[04:20] <zoidberg> its not on synaptic and i donloaded the .deb packages and it wont instal either
[04:20] <zoidberg> any help
[04:20] <zoidberg> ?
[04:20] <aslaen> blankhead: doesn't nvidia-settings get installed by nvidia-glx-new?
[04:20] <sahak> kelvin911: I never used DVD iso. Always used CDs
[04:20] <Kl4m> the main servers must be in pain just from the apt-get updates
[04:21] <dini> calc is there any software available to increase the browsing and download speed
[04:21] <kelvin911> me 2 i always use CD\
[04:21] <pipegeek> ?
[04:21] <nickrud> pipegeek update-manager is the tool you're uisng?
[04:21] <kelvin911> dvd takes too long to dl and i wonder what is in dvd?
[04:21] <pipegeek> yes
[04:21] <aoeuid> how do I update to Hardy if I don't have space on / but do on other partitions?
[04:21] <kelvin911> more stuffs?
[04:21] <Utalcn2me> is pulseaudio still broken in hardy?
[04:21] <avayanis_> anyone had any issues booting 8.04 server?  I get the following error when trying to boot after install on my pentium M laptop: "this kernel requires a feature not present on this cpu"
[04:21] <pipegeek> nickrud: or, rather, yes
[04:21] <sahak> probably more software
[04:21] <mvinsc> go to sys> admin> Hardware Drivers
[04:21] <IcemanV9> zoidberg: sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[04:21] <nickrud> pipegeek  system->admin -> software sources, download from:  chose other, and find a local mirror
[04:21] <Bubble_tea> Why is some packages are STATUS: FAILED?
[04:21] <calc> dini: there shouldn't need to be any, it is already fast, if you are having slowdown problems it is probably either your connection or the site you are trying to reach
[04:21] <kelvin911> like more of what software?
[04:21] <mvinsc> my nvidia drive just installed and said reboot
[04:21] <Kl4m> kelvin911: more packages but you likely won't use most of them.
[04:21] <chubs730> krasher: is that already installed?
[04:21] <Skuller> Hello, I get this in Synaptic "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:21] <Skuller> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:21] <krasher> FINALLY!
[04:21] <pipegeek> nickrud: I already did.  I'm not using ftp.us.ubuntu.com.  It's downloading something from there anyway, and I can't dissuade it.
[04:22] <Mythril> are there any packages out there that automatically mirror two folders when one of them changes?
[04:22] <calc> dini: but i am not sure what you are trying to do about speed? is something slow for you?
[04:22] <sahak> Ubuntu repositories have about 20 thousand packages, while CD has only about 1 thousand.
[04:22] <krasher> thanks for that tip of nvidia-settings...
[04:22] <pipegeek> nickrud: I only know this from the strace output.
[04:22] <arbir_> nickrud: i get this error now -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64305/
[04:22] <krasher> i proper configured the refresh rate
[04:22] <ere4si> avayanis_: you prob need the 386 kernel instead of the server kernel
[04:22] <Kl4m> Mythril: rsync
[04:22] <iDN> oh, boy, was i stupid...
[04:22] <iDN> i hate upgrading!
[04:22] <yuri_> hey guys, noticed the automatix2 is discontinued. is there an alternative, or an easy to use instruction page that would allow someone quick access to the win32 codecs, libdvdcss, flash, truetype, etc?
[04:22] <kelvin911> CD has 1000 packages?
[04:22] <iDN> :(
[04:22] <krasher> thanks blackhead
[04:22] <kelvin911> wow
[04:22] <aoeuid> how do I get update-manager to use a custom directory for temporary files?
[04:22] <pipegeek> nickrud: but the manifestation of this problem is that it just sits there, on the first screen after you click "upgrade", "downloading file 1 of 2"
[04:22] <blueeyesmike> ﻿Hi, just upgraded and I've noticed that now my power button and closing the lid on my laptop don't do anything? The event gets logged in /var/log/acpid but nothing happens. This is on a dell inspiron 6000 any ideas?
[04:22] <avayanis_> ere4si should I download the desktop version and reinstall?
[04:22] <dini> im using 20GB older hard-disk type there may be any problem with that one
[04:23] <avayanis_> or is there a way to select that during the install?
[04:23] <Kl4m> Mythril: you can use rsync locally as well as remotely (via SSH)
[04:23] <dini> calc im using 20GB older hard-disk type there may be any problem with that one
[04:23] <nickrud> pipegeek hm. I didn't realize it did that ... I had to change mine to get any speed. Didn't have any holdups
[04:23] <ozzloy> so cube effects work with flash videos, but not stuff in mplayer.  how do i fix that?  (yes i googled for it already)
[04:23] <Kl4m> Mythril: and it's already installed. man rsync
[04:23] <aoeuid> anyone have any idea?
[04:23] <iDN> here's a question: what is the equivalent of uTorrent on ubuntu?
[04:23] <calc> dini: not sure, if your computer is slow overall it will make everything slow including browsing though, not much that can be helped with that software-wise
[04:23] <ere4si> avayanis_: you can boot the server cd - choose rescue - then   sudo apt-get install linux-image-386
[04:23] <sahak> iDN: transmission
[04:23] <tarkus> i want to use ubuntu for my server, but it has caused nothing but problems.. i get hundreds of locale and perl warnings, postgres doesnt work, there arent any logs, nothing is working, simply put. is there any reason why fresh installs of ubuntu would be so shit right out of the box?
[04:23] <Skuller> Does someone have any idea as to how this can be solved:
[04:23] <Skuller> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:23] <Skuller> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[04:24] <Kl4m> Mythril: (sorry last one :) )  there is also grsync which is a graphical frontend to it, and some others.
[04:24] <nickrud> arbir_ you can't use a fat 32 partition probably.
[04:24] <chubs730> skuller: are you running with sudo?
[04:24] <Starnestommy> tarkus: it depends. Was it 7.10 or 8.04?
[04:24] <dini> oh thanks for ur information
[04:24] <iDN> sahak: thanks. it has upload support, right?
[04:24] <Mythril> Kl4m: thank you
[04:24] <tarkus> Starnestommy: 7.10
[04:24] <arbir_> nickrud:  which partition
[04:24] <avayanis_> ere4si: thanks, I will go try that now
[04:24] <Skuller> chubs730: Its synaptic package manager
[04:24] <pipegeek> nickrud: huh.  It finally got past that point.... the strace output shows about 500 calls to read, all of them returning EAGAIN
[04:24] <sahak> iDN: yes
[04:24] <osmosis> dont tell me I need to format and start over just because Hardware Drivers no longer wants to show my nvidia driver.
[04:24] <nickrud> Skuller you have another manager open
[04:24] <kelvin911> i think i will stick with 7.10 for now
[04:24] <DBautell> Skuller, do you have more than one package manager happenong at the same time?
[04:24] <nickrud> Skuller or the update manager is running in the background
[04:24] <juano__> are the repos for hardy down or something ?
[04:24] <black_13> Mythril, nom
[04:24] <CaptainMorgan> after trying to enable all the repositories, multiverse, universe etc... when I reload synaptic or the Add/Remove program, the reloading fails at Translation_En    what's happening?
[04:24] <chubs730> skuller: is there another package manager running?
[04:24] <kelvin911> until maybe i really need to update it
[04:24] <dini> hey calc ru using torrent now days
[04:24] <icesword> kelvin911, hahah, you wil regret
[04:24] <zoidberg> IcemanV9, i got some dependecy errors
[04:24] <iDN> ok. thank you! are you israeli accidentally, sahak ?
[04:24] <zoidberg> ?
[04:25] <icesword> kelvin911, lol
[04:25] <Starnestommy> juano__: a lot of the servers are having load problems with all the updates
[04:25] <osmosis> damn
[04:25] <sahak> iDN: Armenian :)
[04:25] <calc> dini: i downloaded the dvd before it was released and then just rsync'd it
[04:25] <Skuller> chubs730: No, only one
[04:25] <kelvin911> icesword: hey u
[04:25] <Kl4m> juano__: the main servers are under heavy pressure. use a local (non-us, non-uk) one if you can
[04:25] <kelvin911> icesword: why regret?
[04:25] <calc> dini:  it was already up to date so it didn't download anything at all
[04:25] <black_13> nickrud it finally scanned the mirror
[04:25] <nickrud> pipegeek to be honest that's over my head.
[04:25] <Fa> Kl4m i just ping all servers
[04:25] <icesword> kelvin911, it is cool, compiz is default in hardy
[04:25] <sahak> iDN: but sahak is a Jewish name (comes from itzhak)
[04:25] <pipegeek> nickrud: thanks anyhow
[04:25] <juano__> Kl4m: lol, silly me :) your right
[04:25] <kilrae> try the canadian arctic one, i'm getting 830K/s
[04:25] <juano__> Kl4m: thanks
[04:25] <kelvin911> icesword: compiz also default in gutsy
[04:25] <nickrud> pipegeek I do obvious shti ;)
[04:25] <nks_> Hey, anyone using a Mac / vmware + ubuntu 8.04 ?
[04:25] <Skuller> Ahh its working now. Don't know what caused the problem
[04:25] <arbir_> (parted) toggle 1 boot
[04:26] <arbir_> Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.
[04:26] <nickrud> Skuller probably update manager running in the background
[04:26] <Fa> nks you can install ubuntu on a max
[04:26] <chubs730> skuller: apt may be loading in the background, give it a couple minutes
[04:26] <icesword> kelvin911, hahah, don't regret... oh upgrade later, coz now is slow
[04:26] <Fa> mac
[04:26] <Fa> even
[04:26] <Fa> lol
[04:26] <chubs730> oh i see haha
[04:26] <iDN> sahak: i see. are you jewish? and you're correct in your assumption, your name triggered my question. :)
[04:26] <kelvin911> icesword: do u play games?
[04:26] <dini> hey calc come to the private chat room
[04:26] <pipegeek> hah.  "Can't install ubuntu-desktop.  File this as a bug."
[04:26] <calc> generally if you download the test image from the day or two before release it will have little if anything to update via rsync to have the final image
[04:26] <CaptainMorgan> after trying to enable all the repositories, multiverse, universe etc... when I reload synaptic or the Add/Remove program, the reloading fails at Translation_En    what's happening?
[04:26] <nks_> Fa - natural / without vmware ?
[04:26] <calc> dini: which one?
[04:26] <twinkie_addict> man hardy feels alot lighter then previous aditions
[04:26] <Fa> yes i believe so
[04:27] <sahak> iDN: no, I am not Jewish. I am Armenian.
[04:27] <iDN> sahak: is it contradictory? :O
[04:27] <icesword> kelvin911, not now
[04:27] <tarkus> nks_: yes, you can
[04:27] <dini> hey calc come the private chat room
[04:27] <CaptainMorgan> people please- off TOPIC
[04:27] <CaptainMorgan> people please- off TOPIC
[04:27] <CaptainMorgan> after trying to enable all the repositories, multiverse, universe etc... when I reload synaptic or the Add/Remove program, the reloading fails at Translation_En    what's happening?
[04:27] <calc> dini: you didn't tell me which one to come to, so how can I read your mind?
[04:27] <aoeuid> hey, could anyone help me install hardy? :(
[04:27] <nks_> WOW, i never knew that - I always thought you needed vmware - Would you happen to know if there's support for the internal camera?
[04:27] <Fa> nks_ go here http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-a-mac-256395.php
[04:27] <kelvin911> does anyone successfully installed nfsmw in wine here?
[04:27] <rainrunner87> Is anyone having any trouble with the repos?
[04:28] <cob> next, next, english, us, finish
[04:28] <blueeyesmike> ﻿Hi, just upgraded and I've noticed that now my power button and closing the lid on my laptop don't do anything? The event gets logged in /var/log/acpid but nothing happens. This is on a dell inspiron 6000 any ideas?
[04:28] <x1250> rainrunner87: yes
[04:28] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys, when I idle and come back to my computer the "X" process is at around 100% processor usage, what gives?
[04:28] <Flannel> rainrunner87: The repos are being hammered, it's normal, just be patient
[04:28] <Starnestommy> rainrunner87: the servers are having load problems due to 8.04's release
[04:28] <HardyOne> rainrunner87: they are being hammered right now
[04:28] <sahak> iDN: what? having a Jewish name? not really. many Armenians have Jewish names.
[04:28] <CaptainMorgan> Translation-en_US fails!?
[04:28] <dini> just right click on my name and select private chat
[04:28] <CaptainMorgan> help?
[04:28] <rainrunner87> Kay, good to know.
[04:28] <rainrunner87> Thought so.
[04:28] <x1250> you lazy guys, should have downloaded the iso yesterday, HAH!
[04:28] <Smegzor> I need to image an NTFS partition across my network.  I've tried partimage, but I just get 'version does not match' but I just installed both client and server.  What else can I use?
[04:28] <Bubble_tea> The server is getting laggy.
[04:28] <sahak> iDN: are you Jewish?
[04:28] <nickrud> arbir_ sudo parted /dev/sdb , not sdb1
[04:28] <Bubble_tea> package.
[04:29] <calc> x1250: yep :)
[04:29] <CaptainMorgan> btw ? Compiz and Beryl are BEAutiful on Hardy, it's giving me a ... nevermind
[04:29] <calc> x1250: thats what i did :)
[04:29] <arbir_> nickrud:  the device is /dev/sdb1
[04:29] <Bubble_tea> Right now i'm trying to install languages and its only sending 1000+b/s
[04:29] <WhoNeedszzz> anyone have a "X" process problem?
[04:29] <kelvin911> how beautiful?
[04:29] <nks_> Thank you -Fa
[04:29] <nickrober> anyone else had sound problems with hardy?
[04:29] <arbir_> nickrud:  why do you say just sdb ?
[04:29] <Fa> yw
[04:29] <kelvin911> any hardy screenshot or youtube video?
[04:29] <WhoNeedszzz> had anyone had*
[04:29] <Bubble_tea> IS that even normaL?
[04:29] <nickrud> arbir_ arbir_ first, because the instructions pointed to that. Second, the boot sector isn't in dev/sdb1, but on /dev/sdb
[04:30] <nickrud> arbir_ and third, I just tested it :)
[04:30] <iDN> sahak: no, i thought you were implying that being jewish and being armenian is contradictory. apparently, it was a misunderstanding. and yes, i am jewish. :)
[04:30] <arbir_> nickrud:  so what exactly is /dev/sdb ?
[04:30] <calc> kelvin911: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[04:30] <c0mp13371331337_> Gah.... should have uninstalled OpenArena before dist-upgrading.... X-)
[04:30] <Utalcn2me> nickrober, i am, seems that pulseaudio is still broken maybe
[04:30] <matt_> hey, whenever I run apt-get install something on 8.04, I get a bunch of perl locale errors
[04:30] <harriseldon> CaptainMorgan are you behind a proxy?
[04:30] <pipegeek> Okay, this is just ridiculous.  The upgrade tool says my system is up to date, and I'm certainly not running hardy.
[04:30] <nxusr> anyone seen this : "Flash Player: Warning: environment variable G_FILENAME_ENCODING is set and is not UTF-8" ?
[04:30] <c0mp13371331337_> 271MB over a crawling server.....
[04:30] <nickrober> Utalcn2me: what happens with your sound? no sound, scratchy, skips?
[04:30] <arbir_> nickrud:  should i make a ext3 partition ?
[04:30] <nickrud> arbir_ the device itself. sdb1 is the first partition on the device. There's always some empty space at the beginning of the device (outside of sdb1) for the mbr and boot flag
[04:31] <CaptainMorgan> harriseldon, no... but I waited it out... out of 62 files, it finally downloaded the pacakages..... however Tranlation-en_US(4 of them) explicitly Fail
[04:31] <calc> dini: i can't see your messages (i guess?) since you are probably not a registered user on freenode
[04:31] <HayHay> Hi, I downloaded & burned the i386 DVD version today - Just did a live boot - Doesn't look much different than the Final release. - Is the difference - that it would have much packages installed so there would not be as many updates to install as doing a CD install?
[04:31] <mondayrocks> most popular channel on freenode.
[04:31] <Fa> lol server is going to get overloaded
[04:31] <mondayrocks> word.
[04:31] <Utalcn2me> nickrober, no volume control for my usb headphones, other than that, everything works with ac97 sound.
[04:31] <nickrud> arbir_ haven't read the instructions for what you are installing. But I was able to toggle the boot flag by doing sudo parted /dev/sdb  with my usbstick
[04:31] <bthornton> Which Ubuntu image should I use for an Intel Core 2 Quad system--AMD64 or i386?
[04:31] <WhoNeedszzz> I have a huge problem with my X process here guys
[04:31] <HayHay> more
[04:31] <calc> dini: you have to be registered and identified to send private messages
[04:31] <purpleposeidon> Heylo, I installed wubi on win98, and X is like reaaaallly slow, and I see nothing except the 'x' cursor and the background
[04:32] <harriseldon> CaptainMorgan according to this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/11830 it is connection related -- could be increased traffic
[04:32] <dini> so what should i do for that
[04:32] <Kl4m> !register > dini
[04:32] <nickrober> Utalcn2me: oh, mine is just scratchy, like using distortion with an electric guitar
[04:32] <kelvin911> calc: thats it?
[04:32] <arbir_> nickrud:  i am happy.. but just to know, should i keep the USB stick's partition as FAT32 or shall i change it to EXT3 ?
[04:32] <calc> bthornton: amd64 would probably work better for you, especially if you have a lot of ram
[04:32] <dini> how to register
[04:32] <calc> dini: msg nickserv
[04:32] <nickrud> arbir_ what instructions are you following?
[04:32] <Starnestommy> dini: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[04:32] <Kl4m> dini: see ubotu private message.
[04:32] <kelvin911> calc: there is no different from gutsy?
[04:32] <anachronoks> anyone know how to access the compiz settings in hardy?
[04:32] <bthornton> groovy, thanks!
[04:32] <calc> kelvin911: some differences but not a lot of visible ones
[04:32] <harriseldon> arbir_ avoid ext3 on flash (journaling causing extra disk writes)
[04:32] <RyanPrior> Is there a program for doing sound captures of whatever is playing on the computer?
[04:32] <arbir_> nickrud:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick   <--preparing using the shell script there
[04:33] <Utalcn2me> nickrober, try turning down pcm maybe, i notice mine distorts when its too high.
[04:33] <kelvin911> calc: for example?
[04:33] <calc> kelvin911: the gui looks roughly the same as it has for the past 4 years, it is Gnome after all
[04:33] <nhaines> anachronoks: Go to Add/Remove and install Advanced Desktop Effects.
[04:33] <Noah0504> Can someone who has a little experience with GRUB help me out?  I need help with fixing the following bug filed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/214736
[04:33] <tarkus> i want to use ubuntu for my server, but it has caused nothing but problems.. i get hundreds of locale and perl warnings, postgres doesnt work, there arent any logs, nothing is working, simply put. is there any reason why fresh installs of ubuntu would be so shit right out of the box? its the ubuntu server version, and its 7.10 (gutsy)
[04:33] <purpleposeidon> !wubi
[04:33] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[04:33] <calc> kelvin911: OOo 2.4.0 instead of 2.3.0
[04:33] <arbir_> harriseldon: then ext2 is fine ?
[04:33] <calc> kelvin911: gnome 2.22.1 instead of 2.20.1
[04:33] <Prez00> wonder if my isp is throttling torrent or this ubuntu torrent is slooow
[04:33] <Sivik> i bet the ubuntu torrent is slow, its release date
[04:33] <anachronoks> nhaines: okay great, thank you
[04:33] <Noah0504> Prez00: It was pretty slow for me.
[04:33] <DBautell> Prez00, the DVD?
[04:33] <calc> kelvin911: there is a release notes document somewhere that probably lists more stuff
[04:33] <WhoNeedszzz> I have a huge problem with my X process here guys
[04:33] <nickrober> Utalcn2me: i have the volume really low, but it's scratchy constantly, someone else with a computer similar to mine has the same problem on the forums so i guess i'll just wait for a fix :(
[04:33] <RyanPrior> tarkus: That's really strange. My Ubuntu install works fine with Perl stuff, and I'm not using Postgres, but MySQL runs fine.
[04:33] <pipegeek> So, how does the upgrade tool determine which version of ubuntu you have installed?  It thinks I already have Hardy, and it's dead wrong.
[04:34] <harriseldon> arbir_ that should be fine -- are you doing full install to usb or just using a writable partition?
[04:34] <Prez00> regular CD
[04:34] <owen1> "enable automatic login" doesn't work(xubuntu) . any ideas?
[04:34] <duncanm> anyone know the deal about usb persist in the hardy kernel?
[04:34] <kelvin911> if i update gutsy to hardy, do i have to setup my theme again?
[04:34] <duncanm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/197166
[04:34] <RyanPrior> pipegeek: what does lsb_release -a say?
[04:34] <mysticdarkhack> hey all
[04:34] <nickrud> arbir_ leave it at fat16, per the instructions
[04:34] <nhaines> kelvin911: No.
[04:34] <pipegeek> RyanPrior: Gutsy
[04:34] <kelvin911> i dont wanna lose all my current theme setting and icon settings and etc
[04:34] <pipegeek> RyanPrior: Ubuntu 7.10
[04:34] <zcat[1]> anyone got md5sums for the hardy DVD iso's? I can't reach cdimage.ubuntu.com at the moment and I want to check if my torrented files are correct
[04:34] <arbir_> harriseldon:  i am making a USB stick as my install media for Ubuntu
[04:35] <harriseldon> pipegeek: lsb_release -r
[04:35] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[04:35] <arbir_> alright nickrud let me try... :-)
[04:35] <pipegeek> harriseldon: 7.10
[04:35] <d4t4min3r> how can i clean out all my temp files
[04:35] <WhoNeedszzz> if anyone can help me with my X Process high usage problem please PM me
[04:35] <harriseldon> arbir_ then ext2 should be fine
[04:35] <mysticdarkhack> so did anyone else have the problem with hardy heron on startup when splash hang
[04:35] <d4t4min3r> something like ccleaner.... for linux
[04:35] <pipegeek> but I'm being told there are no upgrades available.
[04:35] <mvinsc> hey, how big should my swap partition be?
[04:35] <DBautell> zcat[1], torrent do checksums automatically, but hang on
[04:35] <reflous> how do I tell apt to find the fastest mirror again?
[04:35] <kelvin911> i have the same questions abour tmp dir and files
[04:35] <RyanPrior> pipegeek: That is very strange. I don't know what the package manager decides based on, but it's clearly screwed up somehow.
[04:35] <Adlai> d4t4min3r: rm -rf /tmp/*, but I wouldn't suggest it, many programs use temp space while they are running
[04:35] <arbir_> when i create it using fdisk, i get different names, when i use parted i dont get such weird names.. what should i use ?
[04:36] <kelvin911> do i have to clean them manually?
[04:36] <loufoque> ext2 is crap
[04:36] <pipegeek> RyanPrior: suggestions? :-\
[04:36] <loufoque> use ext3
[04:36] <nhaines> d4t4min3r: the temp directory is cleared out every time you reboot.
[04:36] <RodGo> heyy, i am having troubles, iv just installed emerald theme manager
[04:36] <XceII> d4t4min3r:  try sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:36] <RyanPrior> pipegeek: No clue at all.
[04:36] <RodGo> but somehow i cant get any theme to work :s
[04:36] <owen1> n000b: welcome!
[04:36] <nikitis> mvinsc: 2gb's or less
[04:36] <Adlai> mvinsc: tradition says twice your ram, but if you have >=2GB I wouldn't do more that the amount of ram you have
[04:36] <RodGo> i installed some themes but when i try to use them no change :s
[04:36] <kelvin911> RodGo: what do u mean?
[04:36] <arbir_> loufoque: in this context ext2 should work as well, its a readonly system
[04:36] <harriseldon> pipegeek did you look at the screenshots at this site http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading do they match what you see?
[04:36] <RodGo> i installed emerald theme manager
[04:36] <kelvin911> RodGo: i have install that as well, no problem
[04:36] <WhoNeedszzz> if anyone can help me with my X Process high usage problem please PM me
[04:36] <n000b> can anyone tell me how to access files on an external harddrive that are in the windows file system?
[04:36] <Adlai> mvinsc: I have 2GB of ram and 1.5GB of swap, which I never actually use
[04:36] <RodGo> but when i try to change to any theme
[04:36] <calc> if you use less than the amount of ram you have you may not be able to hibernate, depending on system usage
[04:36] <mvinsc> ok. thanks
[04:36] <RodGo> nothing happends :s
[04:36] <HayHay> zcat[1]: When go to burn your DVD image - I believe your burner program will do a checksum before it burns - if that's off it will not burn.
[04:36] <calc> assuming you want to be able to hibernate
[04:36] <kelvin911> RodGo:  u need to run a command to tell ubuntu to use emerald
[04:36] <WhoNeedszzz> if anyone can help me with my X Process high usage problem please PM me
[04:36] <n000b> owen1: hey
[04:37] <RodGo> what command?
[04:37] <kelvin911> RodGo: wait
[04:37] <Utalcn2me> nickrober, i cant even figure out what soundserver hardy is using - alsa i think - or maybe osd
[04:37] <mysticdarkhack> hu thank goodness I finally fisinh install everything I need
[04:37] <harriseldon> n000b what do you mean windows file system? fat32 or ntfs?
[04:37] <owen1> n000b: crazy, ah?
[04:37] <Adlai> Utalcn2me: it's pulseaudio now
[04:37] <n000b> ntfs
[04:37] <WhoNeedszzz> if anyone can help me with my X Process high usage problem please PM me
[04:37] <mysticdarkhack> ubuntu server seem slow
[04:37] <kelvin911> RodGo: emerald --replace & disown
[04:37] <Flannel> !repeat | WhoNeedszzz
[04:37] <ubotu> WhoNeedszzz: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:37] <zcat[1]> HayHay: I can generate the md5sum of the isos I have here.. I want to know what the correct ones should be so I know my files are complete
[04:37] <n000b> owen1: yeah a little too fast
[04:37]  * nickrud goes back to disk/partition school
[04:37] <RodGo> i need to run that everytime?
[04:37] <nhaines> Utalcn2me, nickrober: Hardy us using the PulseAudio sound server.
[04:37] <kelvin911> RodGo: no just one time thing
[04:37] <pipegeek> harriseldon: yes
[04:38] <Utalcn2me> Adlai, but when i start paman or pavucontrol, there is nothing.
[04:38] <Adlai> WhoNeedszzz: you could try logging out and in again, but you should check what extensions you are using
[04:38] <HayHay> zcat[1]: sorry can't help with that.
[04:38] <goat|work> HayHay: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[04:38] <WhoNeedszzz> Flannel, no one can see what i'm saying bc too many people are talking. My repetition is justified
[04:38] <compaqr4000>  I'm trying to run open office calc via ssh and I get the following on one of my machines: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display:  Any ideas why this is?  It works fine on another machine.
[04:38] <mib_9lhkzcmz> Ok. So, I was messing around in the advanced settings of compiz fusion. I didn't change anything major, but it kicked me back to the login screen a couple times, so I put the effects back to simple. Now, whenever I open windows, they leave behind a "ghost" image of themeslves
[04:38] <nikitis> n000b: try mount -t ntfs-3g <device> <dir>
[04:38] <kelvin911> RodGo: if u dont like emerald, to switch back, gtk-window-decorator --replace & disown
[04:38] <Starnestommy> WhoNeedszzz: how much memory is it using?
[04:38] <owen1> n000b: maybe describe the problem u have.
[04:38] <harriseldon> pipegeek: did you click on the upgrade button next to new distribution available?
[04:38] <Adlai> Utalcn2me: I don't know the pulseaudio control programs, does anyone else know?
[04:38] <mib_9lhkzcmz> Highly Annoying. Any thoughts?
[04:38] <nhaines> WhoNeedszzz: People can use their scrollback buffer to read your question as well.
[04:38] <owen1> n000b: with the folders.
[04:38] <kelvin911> RodGo: work there?
[04:38] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: how much memory is what using?
[04:38] <dublpaws> compaqr4000: ssh -X into your remote host.
[04:38] <Starnestommy> WhoNeedszzz: X
[04:38] <pipegeek> harriseldon: yes.
[04:38] <Kl4m> zcat[1]: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/MD5SUMS
[04:38] <Hikejinx> RodGo: in ccsm you can set it up to use emerald
[04:38] <nickrober> nhaines: yeah, but it seems to be broken for me
[04:39] <n000b> nikitis: what the heck is that
[04:39] <harriseldon> pipegeek: what happened when you clicked the upgrade button?
[04:39] <zcat[1]> Kl4m: DVD images.
[04:39]  * calc uses /lastlog foo :-)
[04:39] <nikitis> how you mount your external windows drive
[04:39] <owen1> n000b: it's a way to mount drives in linux.
[04:39] <kelvin911> nikitis: i think it is automount
[04:39] <Adlai> I don't remember who was asking about finding the fastest mirror, but it's netselect that you want to use, I believ
[04:39] <Kl4m> zcat[1]: did you use a torrent. If so, then it's validated by the torrent protocol.
[04:39] <talcite> oh the distro upgrade? yeah its kinda broken for me as well. Probably due to server load
[04:39] <Hikejinx> RodGo: I believe you can do it under window decorations or some plugin. I'm not using compiz at the moment though.
[04:39] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: how do i know?
[04:39] <nikitis> kelvin911: not always
[04:39] <Adlai> hopefully you will see that
[04:39] <owen1> n000b: in linux u need to mount drives sometimes.
[04:39] <talcite> I had to try a few times before it let me through
[04:39] <zcat[1]> Kl4m: which are on cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/MD5SUM but it just times out for me here.. can anyone else reach it?
[04:39] <Starnestommy> Kl4m: system > administration > system monitor
[04:39] <calc> nikitis: usually external drives mount as soon as you plug them in
[04:39] <nikitis> kelvin911: some external drives don't automount
[04:39] <kelvin911> nikitis: it will be if u edit fstab
[04:39] <Starnestommy> er...
[04:40] <Starnestommy> WhoNeedszzz: system > administration > system monitor
[04:40] <n000b> owen1: how do you mount the drive again
[04:40] <kelvin911> they do
[04:40] <kelvin911> nikitis: they do all automount
[04:40] <owen1> n000b: let me see his reply.
[04:40] <pipegeek> harriseldon: it sat there for about 10 minutes doing nothing.  Then, I got a dialog which described the upgrade, and I clicked "upgrade" in that window.  Then, another 10 minute wait.  Then the upgrade began, and I was told that it couldn't install ubuntu-desktop, and that this was a bug.  I reran the upgrade tool, and this time, after I got to that point, I was told hardy was already installed.
[04:40] <harriseldon> compaqr4000 is x11 forwarding setup correctly on both machines?
[04:40] <n000b> nikitis: how do you mount the drive again
[04:40] <nikitis> kelvin911: i have one in particular I have to manually mount it
[04:40] <kelvin911> nikitis: make sure u unplug safely in windows
[04:40] <n000b> owen1: ok
[04:40] <Utalcn2me> Adlai, my pulseaudio device chooser in xubuntu doesnt even start when selected
[04:40] <juano__> is anyone able to download from the USA server ?
[04:40] <patbam> i'm totally making out with ubuntu. right now.
[04:40] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: 0 right now, sleeping
[04:40] <nikitis> mount -t ntfs-3g <devicenamehere> <directorytomounttohere>
[04:40] <lostxion> any one help me figure out how i can make it so my computer will play dvd's
[04:40] <calc> juano__: the US server is the same server as the main one (its in London)
[04:40] <IcemanV9> whoa! sys monitor looks really nice! :-)
[04:40] <masmota> juano_:not i
[04:40] <owen1> n000b:  type this: mount -t ntfs-3g <device> <dir>
[04:41] <kelvin911> nikitis: if u just unplug it in windows without safely unplug, u cant plug the external drive in ubuntu
[04:41] <fmz> hello
[04:41] <kelvin911> nikitis: i tried that b4
[04:41] <zcat[1]> !md5sums
[04:41] <calc> juano__: use something other than us.archive.ubuntu.com if that is the one you are trying
[04:41] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs.
[04:41] <talcite> juano__: its probably just slow right now. Everyone's downloading hardy =D
[04:41] <mgmz> it says its using the au sever are any others owrking?
[04:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: it kicks in when i idle
[04:41] <mglukhovsky> i know everyone's really busy right now w/ hardy's release, but does anyone have experience with crashes using ATI's BigDesktop?
[04:41] <anachronoks> i can't tell you how amazed i am at how well hardy is working on my laptop, after all the trouble i went through with feisty
[04:41] <juano__> talcite: yes, oh there we go, now it started to download
[04:41] <nickrud> zcat[1] http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ has the md5sums
[04:41] <talcite> juano__: I'm using one in Quebec. It seems to work well
[04:41] <Starnestommy> WhoNeedszzz: are you using compiz?
[04:41] <compaqr4000> harriseldon: I can assume it is on the server as I can run it on another machine with no issues
[04:41] <n000b> owen1: what do i put in place of device and dir?
[04:41] <owen1> n000b: replace the device with the name of the harddrive, and dir is any directory.
[04:41] <anachronoks> everything works out of the box, a first for me
[04:41] <juano__> talcite: ok, thanks will try
[04:41] <zcat[1]> of the DVD images?!!!
[04:41] <mgmz> how do i change the server i use for synaptic?
[04:41] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: nope, nvidia geforce 8600 gts with binary driver
[04:41] <fmz> Could anyone help me with setting xorg right for transperency, i have nvdia and im using xcompmgr. Everything is fine, but its really slow. I added the option for nvdia, still slow.
[04:41] <nxusr> libxcb: WARNING! Program tries to unlock a connection without having acquired
[04:41] <nxusr>         a lock first, which indicates a programming error.
[04:42] <owen1> n000b: create an empty dir, i think.
[04:42] <mglukhovsky> yes. everything's perfect, but the right screen, if clicked on the desktop, causes Xorg to die with an error message
[04:42] <anacaona> hello all. having problems doing network upgrade (from gutsy). in montreal. get an Error during update message - connection timeouts from ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:42] <nhaines> mgmz: System > Administration > Software Sources
[04:42] <n000b> owen1: did you get your question answered?
[04:42] <pipegeek> harriseldon: thoughts?
[04:42] <mgmz> k
[04:42] <nickrud> zcat[1] no, didn't catch the dvd part of the question, sorry
[04:42] <Jefo> i have a wireless (broadcom chip) that doesnt work. is there a way to get it working without LAN?
[04:42] <zcat[1]> I am looking for the correct md5sum of the TWO DVD  IMAGES
[04:42] <ffm_> !repomirror | nhaines
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repomirror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know how to get the wireless or ndiswrapper to work again in 8.04
[04:42] <DBautell> zcat[1], I fail to find the DVD md5s, bit torrents are checked automatically during the download, so I wouldn't worry
[04:42] <Hikejinx> anacaona: you might just want to wait out the server overload that is going on
[04:42] <dini> how to reset my password
[04:42] <ffm_> nhaines, Go to "System>Administration>Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the closest mirror to you automatically
[04:42] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: so what does that tell u?
[04:42] <dini> how to reset my password in nickserv
[04:43] <zcat[1]> I should have grabbed them first, I know.. I didn;t expect the server to get hammered to the point that I can't even reach it at all!
[04:43] <dini> how to reset my password in nickserv
[04:43] <owen1> n000b: no. i wanted to follow you first. it's exciting to help people get into open source.
[04:43] <ffm_> dini, Ask in #freenode
[04:43] <swilky> hey all .. i was wondering .. can you setup a linux server to connect on PPoE and use it as a gate way for other computers with internet ip addresses behind it ?
[04:43] <Starnestommy> dini: go to #freenode and ask a staff member
[04:43] <MatToufoutu> hello ubunteros ;)
[04:43] <anacaona> Hikejink: thanks, thought by this evening this would have settled down but I guess not.
[04:43] <nhaines> ffm_: Thank you, I'm aware.  :)
[04:43] <ffm_> nhaines, Try maybe another mirror?
[04:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > dini,
[04:43] <talcite> hmm... it seems that /boot is full
[04:43] <arbir_> yahoo finally its copying my ubuntu image to the stick
[04:43] <Starnestommy> WhoNeedszzz: I'm not sure
[04:43] <anacaona> Hikejink: is there a way to upgrade from CDROM or ISO?
[04:43] <fmz> Could anyone help me with setting xorg right for transperency, i have nvdia and im using xcompmgr. Everything is fine, but its really slow. I added the option for nvdia, still slow.
[04:43] <WhoNeedszzz> Starnestommy: great
[04:43] <mglukhovsky> so no thoughts on dual screen w/ATI (BigDesktop)?
[04:43] <ffm_> nhaines, MIT works for me, but I don't want to spead that around...
[04:43] <nhaines> ffm_: I'm not the one having trouble.
[04:43] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know how to get the wireless or ndiswrapper to work again in 8.04???
[04:43] <DBautell> anacaona, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[04:43] <talcite> any ideas about what I can remove?
[04:43] <kelvin911> nikitis: did u solve your external hd mounting problem?
[04:43] <WhoNeedszzz> anyone know why the X process usage skyrockets after idling?
[04:43] <Kl4m> talcite: 8| how much space did you gave it?
[04:44] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow tag
[04:44] <ffm_> nhaines, Sorry.
[04:44] <rajiv_nair> where can i find the md5 checksums for 8.04 iso's ?
[04:44] <black_13> were can i find a mirror for sources.list ?
[04:44] <owen1> n000b: btw, u can get help on commands like this: man <command>
[04:44] <hou5ton> I have a laptop that is a Gateway with AMD Turion 64 mobile technology.  But does it matter which version of 8.04 I download?  Is one better than the other for stability, etc.?
[04:44] <zcat[1]> Oh well, I'll just assume they're correct
[04:44] <nhaines> ffm_: Not a problem.
[04:44] <n000b> owen1: what do you mean the harddrive name?
[04:44] <talcite> Kl4m: 32mb I believe
[04:44] <anacaona> thanks DBautell, I'll give that a try.
[04:44] <jtmonz> hey guys, "apt-file search libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3" returns nothing... i need the file to use realvnc properly
[04:44] <dini> how to set password in nickserv
[04:44] <sanmarcos> is there an LTS related mailing list?
[04:44] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, Howdy...
[04:44] <Hikejinx> anacaona: yes, of course. Look at the room topic, there is a link to a torrent to download an ISO
[04:44] <nickrud> zcat[1] the disk check will tell you ;)
[04:44] <owen1> n000b: good question.
[04:44] <harriseldon> compaqr4000 are you connecting from linux clients to the server?
[04:44] <WhoNeedszzz> anyone know why the X process usage skyrockets after idling?
[04:44] <Kl4m> black_13: rebuild one with synaptic (repositories menu item)
[04:44] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: screensaver??
[04:44] <zcat[1]> nickrud: yes, doing that now...
[04:44] <nickrud> !register | dini
[04:44] <ubotu> dini: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[04:44] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: what about it?
[04:44] <techno_freak> rajiv_nair, http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/MD5SUMS
[04:45] <owen1> n000b: when u connect the usb. do u see anything on the desktop?
[04:45] <rajiv_nair> techno_freak: thank you
[04:45] <nickrober> is synaptic not downloading because of the high use of the servers?
[04:45] <compaqr4000> harriseldon: yes, all 8.04
[04:45] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: that might be the reason
[04:45] <black_13> Kl4m, please excuse my ignorance but what is synaptic?
[04:45] <nhaines> nickrober: Probably.
[04:45] <n000b> owen1: yes i do
[04:45] <Starnestommy> dini: I think you may need to use a different nickname
[04:45] <anachronoks> yes synaptic is not downloading for me either, i gave up on it
[04:45] <techno_freak> nickrober, yes, might be, try the nearest server
[04:45] <nhaines> black_13: It is a graphical interface for the Ubuntu package manager.
[04:45] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: why?
[04:45] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: it is being idle and screensaver kicks in
[04:45] <yukonho> Hi - during the boot sequence ubuntu fails during the "loading hardware drivers" portion. How do I fix it?
[04:45] <Kl4m> black_13: system -> administration -> package manager
[04:45] <nickrober> techno_freak: will do, thanks
[04:45] <dini> how to set my new nick name
[04:45] <ffm_> !synaptic | black_13
[04:45] <ubotu> black_13: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[04:45] <owen1> n000b: try right click, do u see any name ?
[04:45] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: it kicks in after a long time of idling
[04:45] <fmz> Could anyone help me with setting xorg right for transperency, i have nvdia and im using xcompmgr. Everything is fine, but its really slow. I added the option for nvdia, still slow.
[04:45] <black_13> nhaines, i am using the server product
[04:45] <dini> how to set my new nick name and password
[04:45] <owen1> n000b: or some identifier?
[04:46] <nikitis> kelvin911: that was n000b who had the problem.  it works for me
[04:46] <WhoNeedszzz> dini, GO TO #freenode!
[04:46] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: yea. that's normal. are you saying it is not normal?
[04:46] <mattycoze> can someone help me with my wireless issue?
[04:46] <zcat[1]> Updated this machine last night.. three others won't even apt-get update ... I think I'll just wait a few days :(
[04:46] <Starnestommy> dini: /nick <new-nickname>, then /msg nickserv register <password>
[04:46] <nhaines> black_13: Then Synaptic will not be installed.  But you said you did not understand what it was?
[04:46] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: what is normal?
[04:46] <n000b> owen1: im in windows right now
[04:46] <sahak> I wonder if Shuttleworth will be able to deal with new users.
[04:46] <mattycoze> !wireless
[04:46] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:46] <wthww> Hi. I was wondering is the new release dist-upgrade friendly?
[04:46] <Kl4m> dini: next time I'm calling for a kick.
[04:46] <Adlai> mglukhovsky: surprise
[04:46] <mglukhovsky> hey, man
[04:46] <techno_freak> wthww, yes
[04:46] <EruditeHermit> when I use firefox in hardy, everything is set so small because it is not using the correct DPI. Is there a way to set the DPI so that it respects my settings. layout.css.dpi doesn't work.
[04:46] <Kl4m> !upgrade > wthww
[04:46] <nikitis> i wish the normal cd installer would create lvm's
[04:46] <owen1> n000b: i thought u got only harddrive. and ubuntu machine.
[04:47] <black_13> i inferred that it was probably needed xorg
[04:47] <zcat[1]> YAY! finally got cdimage to load.. md5's are correct!!
[04:47] <sahak> EruditeHermit: Appearance/Fonts
[04:47] <Jack_Sparrow> dini, You will need your old password to reset the account or you will need to see freenode staff
[04:47] <mib_9lhkzcmz> ok. SO I have a frsh install of hardy ^_^. Anyways, I started messing around in some of the advanced features of compiz like desktop cube and whatnot (nothing major). Anyways, I've never had a problem with it in the past, but it kicked me back to the login screen a couple of times. So, I put the settings back to "Simple". Now, whenever I open a window, it leaves a "ghost" image of it's "glide" effect.
[04:47] <owen1> n000b: so u have dual boot?
[04:47] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: that the box is idling for a long time and screensaver kicks in. so it causes the process high in top
[04:47] <mheath> hmm, does anyone know if there is a release schedule for the first Hardy point release?
[04:47] <Kl4m> wthww: sorry, this is outdated
[04:47] <EruditeHermit> sahak: it is set to my correct value but firefox isn't showing large fonts
[04:47] <loufoque> anyone else has been experiencing numerous crashes in firefox?
[04:47] <n000b> owen1: no i have a live ubuntu cd
[04:47] <loufoque> crashes or heavy slowdowns
[04:47] <MatToufoutu> why does my update blocks always on the last file (the .deb for transmission) ??? i tried many times but still the same... what could i do?
[04:47] <techno_freak> loufoque, its been there for since i started using FF3
[04:47] <owen1> n000b: oh.
[04:47] <Kl4m> wthww: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades?highlight=(hardyupgrades)
[04:47] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: the screensaver kicks in after 10 minutes but the problem won't occur unless it idles for at least 8 hours
[04:47] <wthww> Kl4m: I already know how to upgrade, The last time I used dist-upgrade on ubuntu (6.06) it messed up, and I learnt the joys of gentoo =p
[04:48] <sahak> EruditeHermit: I don't know then
[04:48] <yukonho> Has anyone had ubuntu fail during the "loading hardware drivers" portion of boot?
[04:48] <talcite> Kl4m: Yeah, I gave /boot 32megs. Is there anything I can remove from it to give it more space?
[04:48] <harriseldon> compaqr4000 have you looked at this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/136947 there are tips there for debug and possible fixes
[04:48] <techno_freak> loufoque, especially when you open flash
[04:48] <mib_9lhkzcmz> loufoque : nothing yet, but I heven't installed flash yet XD
[04:48] <Kl4m> talcite: remove all the unused kernels
[04:48] <owen1> n000b: what ever u'r doing i think u should be in the ubuntu.
[04:48] <nhaines> black_13: It does.
[04:48] <Kl4m> wthww: the upgrade should be solid now. I had problems with 6.10 too
[04:48] <n000b> owen1: can you wait for me to get into ubuntu
[04:49] <n000b> owen1: it should take about 7-8 minutes
[04:49] <compaqr4000> harriseldon: no, I've not but I will now!  Thanks!
[04:49] <owen1> sure. i might be eating dinner. but i'll try to be here.
[04:49] <IcemanV9> WhoNeedszzz: well. i wouldn't worry about it. you can post it in the forums and see what others have to say about it.
[04:49] <jburd> When I'm trying to upgrade using the alternate CD ROM (mounted ISO), the "Distribution Upgrade" dialog stops responding at the first stage.
[04:49] <DBautell> 5-6 of them will be spent staring at "windows is shutting down"
[04:49] <jburd> Is this normal?
[04:49] <mattycoze> hey can anyone help me with the wireless issue; i have an intel pro Wireless card; http://pastebin.com/m345c85a4, and I can't get it to work since the update
[04:49] <n000b> owen1: ill meet you in xubuntu
[04:49] <talcite> Kl4m: will do. Thanks
[04:49] <WhoNeedszzz> IcemanV9: it is a major problem and i have posted in the forums. Nobody responded
[04:49] <black_13> nhaines, can you think of a mirror ?
[04:50] <n000b> owen1: if thats ok
[04:50] <talcite> Kl4m: The used ones are in menu.lst right?
[04:50] <nhaines> black_13: No, I don't know of any that aren't saturated, I'm afraid.
[04:50] <Kl4m> talcite: private chat for discussion about what can be removed without alarming anyone here.
[04:50] <RussB> Hey All - I did an update from a beta version a while ago, but "nvidia" X drivers won't install (I'm using the "nv" now). I'm trying to figure out what's going on now. Is this "common"?
[04:51] <talcite> lol ok
[04:51] <kelvin911> n000b: has problem mounting external HD?
[04:51] <harriseldon> mattycoze are restricted drivers active?
[04:51] <owen1> n000b: my wife will be mad but i'll try to be here.
[04:51] <owen1> n000b: no worries
[04:51] <n000b> kelvin911:  uyes
[04:51] <arbir_> nickrud:  i keep getting this error...
[04:51] <arbir_> Copying live image to USB stick
[04:51] <arbir_> cp: failed to preserve ownership for `/media/usbdev.XS7902/README.diskdefines': Operation not permitted
[04:51] <kelvin911> n000b: what's the problem there?
[04:51] <mattycoze> harriseldon i had a look at that; but i'm not sure whether it worked, can you walk me throught the process?
[04:51] <n000b> owen1: ok thanks man
[04:52] <mattycoze> (and also to check whether it was automatically activated?)
[04:52] <sanmarcos> so anybody updated from 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS and like to share an experience?
[04:52] <WhoNeedszzz> does anyone else no about the X process high usage?
[04:52] <WhoNeedszzz> know*
[04:52] <n000b> kelvin911: i have an external usb hdd under windows file system that i cant open on ubuntu
[04:52] <harriseldon> mattycoze I will try my best. First, can you get into the restricted drivers manager?
[04:53] <kelvin911> n000b: did u just unplug it from XP?
[04:53] <n000b> kelvin911: vista
[04:53] <WhoNeedszzz> does anyone else know about the X process high usage?
[04:53] <kelvin911> n000b: did u goto remove USB device in vista?
[04:53] <pipegeek> Heh.  I love ubuntu, and I've been using it since warty.... but I've yet to get an upgrade to work.  And I cannot convince update-manager that it needs to do its job and upgrade me to hardy.  It thinks it already has.
[04:53] <nhaines> n000b: You can't just randomly unplug USB devices from your computer.
[04:53] <nhaines> n000b: Not storage devices, anyway.
[04:53] <pipegeek> For an OS that releases every six months, this is a little sillly
[04:53] <black_13> when i google for mirrors i get download mirros that is places for isos
[04:54] <kelvin911> n000b: u have to do Remove USB device in windows, then ubuntu can auto mount your external
[04:54] <neeto> Well 8.04 officially screwed up everything I had going for me. Sweet.
[04:54] <jburd> bleh. upgrades never work for me.
[04:54] <mattycoze> harriseldon no, it's not in the menu
[04:54] <arbir_> yippeeeee , USB installation works
[04:54] <arbir_> USB key is amazingly fast, no more CD burning for mre
[04:54] <jburd> the installer hangs EVERY freaking time there's a new release.
[04:54] <kelvin911> n000b: try plug it back in to the windows, then remove the usb properly then ubuntu can detect it automatically
[04:54] <fiz1> hey everybody, i have a problem with my on screen volume display, it used to be a small rectangle that appeared when i pressed the volume up button on my laptop, now it is a big square and i want to set it back
[04:54] <n000b> kelvin can we chat directly
[04:54] <Jack_Sparrow> n000b, You can force a mount, but way better to properly close it from windows,
[04:54] <mattycoze> harriseldon; if you mean "Hardware Drivers" i've got that up
[04:54] <snadge> after you've installed ubuntu hardy, how do you tell it to use the generic IDE driver?
[04:55] <kelvin911> n000b: or force mount
[04:55]  * grhluna hugs zoidberg
[04:55] <nhaines> fiz1: You can o that by using Add/Remove and installing Advanced Desktop Effects.
[04:55] <kelvin911> n000b: i did that with my 3 external HD
[04:55] <mattycoze> harriseldon; by which in it i've only got the NVIDIA drivers working
[04:55] <nhaines> fiz1: You can turn off the volume control plugin for Compiz there, I believe.
[04:55] <cob> wow wine has gotten really good, didn't even have to mess with any configuration
[04:55] <WhoNeedszzz> does anyone else know about the X process high usage?
[04:55] <Jack_Sparrow> snadge, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:55] <pipegeek> What does update-manager do that aptitude dist-upgrade doesn't?  Is there a reason not to do that instead?
[04:55] <fiz1> nhaines, i will try that,
[04:55] <n000b> kelvin911: how do i remove the hdd properly?
[04:55] <tale_> what is the name of the new clock applet package
[04:56] <harriseldon> mattycoze it may have changed names in hardy. do you see a placeholder for your 4965 wireless card? if so, is it checked?
[04:56] <Mimi> ...Uuuummmm.... how can I stop all desktop icons from showing.... without making my background disapear? Thanks ;p
[04:56] <neeto> My GRUB menu still says 7.10. It's not functionally important, but I want to know how to fix it.
[04:56] <snadge> Jack_Sparrow: yeah but how do i tell it to use generic IDE? i can do it from the install cd.. but not sure what option to put in my menu.lst
[04:56] <nhaines> pipegeek: update-manager passes everything over to a special release upgrade tool that does dependancy checking and so forth.
[04:56] <mattycoze> harriseldon no there is no placeholder for the card :(
[04:56] <quentusrex> Does anyone know about the color bug on hardy? I think it has something to do with either the nvidia driver or something similiar.
[04:56] <n000b> kelvin911:?
[04:56] <black_13> nhaines, how do i find a mirror any mirror whether or not its over burndened or not
[04:56] <kelvin911> n000b: in windows u see arrow icon in system tray?
[04:57] <Jack_Sparrow> snadge, all_generic_ide   before splash quiet
[04:57] <n000b> kelvin911: no i dont
[04:57] <kelvin911> n000b: right click that, then choose whatever device or letter ur usb hd using.  then click remove or whatever
[04:57] <pipegeek> nhaines: doesn't aptitude do dependency checking?  Not to mention, update-manager seems to have screwed up again (happened for gutsy and for feisty, both times had to reinstall), and thinks it's already installed hardy, which it hasn't (no packages installed; lsb_release still says gutsy)
[04:57] <ceil420> Why do I keep seeing this message? It annoys me every time I try to upgrade packages... "The following packages have been kept back:  gnome-themes-extras"
[04:57] <kelvin911> n000b: do u have your external plug into windows now?
[04:58] <quentusrex> There is something wrong with the video playback on my system. I have hardy from RC fully updated. It has just recently 'broke'
[04:58] <Kalimar> I'm having problems with Samba and HH.  I can have the network and the windows computers enumerated, but not their shares.  There is no message saying that Ubuntu cannot access the shares.  What's the deal?
[04:58] <x1250> ceil420: how are you upgrading?
[04:58] <n000b> kelvin911: no the usb hdd is not plugged into my pc
[04:58] <zelrikriando> ubuntu is failing to upgrade :/
[04:58] <kelvin911> n000b: plug the external to windows now
[04:58] <ceil420> x1250, it happens with `sudo apt-get upgrade` and with update-manager
[04:58] <_Rambaldi_>  i keep getting an error at start up Error activating XKB configuration.
[04:58] <n000b> kelvin911: done
[04:58] <nhaines> pipegeek: the upgrade tool knows exactly what needs to be done to ensure a proper update, such as removing deprcated packages and so forth.
[04:58] <x1250> ceil420: try # aptitude full-upgrade
[04:58] <kelvin911> n000b: how many computer u have in front of u?
[04:58] <n000b> kelvin911: 1
[04:59] <kelvin911> n000b: what?
[04:59] <nhaines> black_13: I do not know, sorry.
[04:59] <neon> can anyone share howto adjust brightness on a laptop lcd i can remember what commands are there to adjust brightness usin hardy heron btw thanks
[04:59] <tale_> anybody know where the clock applet stores its settings?
[04:59] <kelvin911> n000b: r u using windows now or ubuntu?
[04:59] <pipegeek> nhaines: but it's *wrong*.  I mean, it clearly doesn't---it says no upgrade is necessary, and it's wrong about that.  I don't know how it's checking.
[04:59] <n000b> kelvin911: windows
[04:59] <HayHay> Hi there, Anyone know a good place to find out to set up Dan's Guardian internet filter app?
[04:59] <fiz1> nhaines, i dont see any kind of volume control plugin in the advanced settings manager for compiz
[04:59] <zelrikriando> seems like I cant upgrade to 8.04
[04:59] <kelvin911> n000b: i thought u have problem with ubuntu
[04:59] <Zelta> I have three .odt files I saved as .doc files because I am going to bring them to another computer (Windows XP) to print.  OO.o has different fonts than Windows, so how can I preserve the fonts I chose?
[04:59] <nhaines> pipegeek: I understand that, but that doesn't change that dist-upgrade is not supported.
[04:59] <ceil420> x1250, that's gonna let me get the package, but why is it forcing removal of a different one? "The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:  gtk2-engines-spherecrystal"
[04:59] <pipegeek> nhaines: suggestions?
[04:59] <n000b> kelvin911: yes i do
[05:00] <kelvin911> n000b: and what is it?
[05:00] <x1250> ceil420: thats why it was kept back... because I needed a removal
[05:00] <kelvin911> n000b: u dual boot?
[05:00] <x1250> I/It
[05:00] <pipegeek> nhaines: is there some way at least that I could get debugging output from update-manager?  It doesn't print anything to stdout
[05:00] <n000b> kelvin911: no i have a live cd
[05:00] <ceil420> x1250, ah. cheers o/
[05:00] <nhaines> pipegeek: See what 'lsb_release -r' says, and set your /etc/apt/sources.list back to using gutsy repos.
[05:01] <pipegeek> nhaines: did, and did.  No effect.
[05:01] <bray> The name is Bray and I just converted from Windows.
[05:01] <kelvin911> n000b: whats the problem?
[05:01] <n000b> kelvin911: ubuntu is showing my folders as unrecognized documents
[05:01] <hellmitre> okay kids, I've just upgraded from ubuntu 7.10 on my gen 2 macbook pro.. and I had the madwifi wireless drivers working then -- could connect to wifi networks, all was gravy. I'm now in 8.04
[05:01] <hellmitre> and I can't connect to wireless networks
[05:01] <MrObvious> How can I request that a program be added to the repos?
[05:01] <mattycoze> harriseldon; also check this http://pastebin.com/m503e74a3 i've added the ifconfig
[05:01] <hellmitre> doesn't recognize that I have a wireless card
[05:01] <n000b> kelvin911: in the external hdd
[05:01] <kelvin911> n000b: i dont get what u mean?
[05:01] <pipegeek> nhaines: lsb_release still says 7.10
[05:01] <Kl4m> ceil420: A package is automatically removed when it was only a dependency on another package which was removed. It then becomes useless
[05:01] <Kalimar> What does it mean when I'm able to see the windows computers listed under network, but when I click on them, the shares are not enumerated and I do not receive an error message?
[05:01] <hellmitre> how would I go about enabling wireless?
[05:01] <harriseldon> mattycoze is your wireless recognized without restricted drivers? do you know how to check?
[05:01] <n000b> kelvin911: can we chat elsewhere pls
[05:01] <ceil420> Kl4m, oh, i see
[05:01] <kelvin911> n000b: so u can see the files in your external in ubuntu?
[05:02] <kelvin911> n000b: whats the problem  then?
[05:02] <mattycoze> harriseldon i don't think it is actually; i can't see the wirelss card in the network settings program, or get any access to my wireless network
[05:02] <kelvin911> n000b: did u register your nickname?
[05:02] <bladezor> Ubuntu mirrors must be getting hit hard now?
[05:02] <n000b> kelvin911: my folders which contain the data I want to access are shown as files in ubuntu
[05:02] <thezanke> how come after upgrading to hardy i have 4 linux's on my grub?
[05:02] <kelvin911> u need to register your nick so i can private chat with u
[05:02] <n000b> kelvin911: how do I register my nickname
[05:02] <bladezor> I'm on a 30 megabit connection yet the Ubuntu 8.04 upgrade is only downloading at like 30kb/s
[05:03] <kelvin911> n000b: shown as filesm thats normal
[05:03] <kelvin911> n000b: whats the problem?
[05:03] <Prez00> 30 megabit, niiice
[05:03] <Zelta> if I install OpenOffice.org on a windows computer, will it have the same fonts the ubuntu version has?
[05:03] <talcite> bladezor: you and every other ubuntu user out there right now is hammering the servers. I'd consider 30kb/s fast =P
[05:03] <pipegeek> Is there any supported way to run this upgrade other than through update-manager, which is broken?
[05:03] <n000b> kelvin911: I dont know how else to say it
[05:03] <kelvin911> n000b: brb cooking
[05:03] <harriseldon> mattycoze hate to ask to this question, but is your wireless enabled on the laptop? I have a switch to turn my off and it is not recognized when it is off.
[05:03] <owen1> can i ssh to a machine that have wireless connection?
[05:03] <sap> Hi, while using k3b for burning I had enabled "verify data"  but it ejected the disc soon after writing the data .  Now can I verify the written data separately ?
[05:03] <Kl4m> thezanke: the last kernel version stays so you can use it if the new one breaks for you
[05:03] <x1250> bladezor: thats because you should have download it yesterday. Today is release party!
[05:03] <nhaines> fiz1: It looks like the volume control is actually a GNOME feature when compositing is enabled.  There doesn't appear to be a way to disable it.
[05:04] <mattycoze> harriseldon yeah it's on mate :P
[05:04] <bladezor> x1250: Yeah, shame on me :(
[05:04] <compaqr4000> harriseldon: I've worked my way through your link and all is well.  Thank you for the tip.
[05:04] <harriseldon> owen1 of course
[05:04] <talcite> sap, if you have an md5 hash of the data, you can compare that to the md5 hash of the disk
[05:04] <neon> can anyone share howto adjust brightness on a laptop lcd i can remember what commands are there to adjust brightness usin hardy heron btw thanks
[05:04] <thezanke> Kl4m, can i remove the options? and set my windows as primary?
[05:04] <thezanke> or default
[05:04] <Zelta> if I install OpenOffice.org on a windows computer, will it have the same fonts the ubuntu version has?
[05:04] <owen1> harriseldon: what ip should i use if i am behind a router?
[05:04] <milia__> bladezor, try downloading it using a torrent client, or from a different server, or both.
[05:04] <sap> talcite, nope . the data is a tar archive backup of some of my song files :/
[05:05] <owen1> harriseldon: don't i need static ip for ssh?
[05:05] <jburd> So is "gksudo 'sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade'" supposed to work?
[05:05] <milia__> bladezor, I'm nearly downloading with 90kb/s under a 2mbit line
[05:05] <talcite> sap: oh =/
[05:05] <Kl4m> thezanke: you need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file for this. Let me see the simplest way.
[05:05] <harriseldon> owen1 why do you need a static ip? are you using only preshared keys?
[05:05] <moshe> can someone direct me to a better totorial for fusion?trying to get the cube configured but seem to be doing something wrong
[05:05] <x1250> bladezor: you can change to another mirror
[05:05] <led3234> hello everybody, i am considering switching to ubuntu. i currently use windows (vista, unfortunately), and i was wondering, how jarring is the change? i am not good (at all) with computers, so how easy is it to install/use ubuntu?
[05:05] <x1250> try germany
[05:05] <arc_shmoo> why are all my apt-get commands stalling for a long time at connectiong to *.ubuntu.com (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)
[05:05] <sap> talcite, this is weird the k3b knew it had to verify the data but still it ejected ...lol
[05:05] <bladezor> milia__, I'll let it be, it fluctuates quite a bit.
[05:05] <Flannel> led3234: what do you usually use your computer for?
[05:05] <Deiz> So, as with every time I install Ubuntu, windows maximize to both my monitors instead of one. Is there a workaround? I recall with 7.04 I got lucky after a reboot and it started working properly.
[05:05] <bladezor> x1250, yeah I didn't notice how
[05:05] <led3234> mostly stuff like word, powerpoint
[05:06] <mattycoze> harriseldon the card worked on the first fresh install of Hardy, and then when i restarted it wouldn't work
[05:06] <led3234> some profgramming too
[05:06] <mattycoze> which is kidna strange
[05:06] <led3234> and music
[05:06] <led3234> a bit
[05:06] <Kalimar> I'm having trouble with Samba.  My windows computers are recognized, but when I click on them, they don't have shares.  What's wrong?
[05:06] <Pokit> I downloaded a GTK2 theme, and I dont know where to extract the folder included. anyone know where I extract it?
[05:06] <quentusrex> Does anyone know how to upgrade my nvidia drivers?
[05:06] <Flannel> led3234: listening to music you mean?  and what sorts of languages?
[05:06] <nhaines> led3234: It's actually a quite pleasant change if you mostly do email, browse the Web, and do Office stuff.  You can always download a Desktop CD and try things out a bit without installing.
[05:06] <Kalimar> Pokit: Drop it on the Themes window.
[05:06] <led3234> listening to music
[05:06] <milia__> bladezor, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[05:06] <pinkmutz> aAAs
[05:06] <led3234> and C++ and Python
[05:06] <owen1> harriseldon: don't know what preshared is. how do i connect to my server with no static ip? just use the ip i get form "whatismyip"?
[05:07] <Kl4m> thezanke: first: do you use a RAID. if you don't know then no.
[05:07] <Flannel> led3234: It'll be pretty smooth, but I agree with nhaines, grab the LiveCD and try it out.
[05:07] <led3234> oh ok, what is it?
[05:07] <manuel__> i cant access the fedora channel ..... quick question, can I download Fedora on CD's and not DVD ?
[05:07] <thezanke> Kl4m, nope.. just 2 sata
[05:07] <suprie> i just upgraded my kernel, and now my atheros card won't work
[05:07] <n000b> kelvin911:?
[05:07] <bladezor> x1250, Hah a bunch of the servers are dead
[05:07] <bladezor> mirrors*
[05:07] <suprie> i'm using madwifi from snapshot
[05:07] <ricree> when I try to use pulseaudio for sound it doesn't work.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[05:07] <nhaines> led3234: It's a bootable CD that gives you a preview of Ubuntu without needing to install it.  If you decide you like it, you can install it from Windows or from the demo environment itself.
[05:07] <Pokit> kalimar, thanks
[05:07] <talcite> manuel__: yes, you can
[05:07] <Kalimar> Np
[05:07] <thezanke> Kl4m windows takes all of my master drive ubuntu takes 1/2 my slave
[05:07] <suprie> when i do modprobe it said FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[05:08] <suprie> what should i do ?
[05:08] <talcite> manuel__: you can get the latest respin with jigdo
[05:08] <n000b> can anyone tell me what advantage kubuntu has over ubuntu?
[05:08] <maap_rj> hi guys.
[05:08] <harriseldon> owen1 as long as you know the ip of the server, the ip of the client can be dynamic
[05:08] <ricree> n000b: as far as I know, the only huge difference is that it uses KDE instead of gnome
[05:08] <Kalimar> Samba trouble.  My windows computers are recognized, but when I click on them, they are devoid of shares.  What's wrong?
[05:08] <Kl4m> thezanke: in the first lines of the file /boot/grub/menu.lst (edit it as a superuser, see !sudo), change the line "default      0" to "default    saved". Reboot, select Windows and from now on it will be the default
[05:08] <Flannel> n000b: They're different.  Neither has advantages per sey, just a matter of preference.
[05:08] <nhaines> n000b: There are no advantages.  It uses the KDE desktop environments instead of the GNOME desktop environment.  It's just about preferences.  They can both run run the same programs.
[05:08] <maap_rj> somebody updated to ubuntu 8.04?
[05:08] <talcite> n000b: its a preference thing. If you're used to KDE, then its better
[05:09] <led3234> oh ok, but i thought there was that new thing in the update (kubi, i think) that lets me run ubuntu from windows (as an application), should i try it?
[05:09] <manuel__> talcite: I have to admit I have no idea what's that
[05:09] <suprie> maap_rj, i'm using updated version of hardy
[05:09] <Kalimar> I'm on HH at the moment.
[05:09] <nhaines> led3234: Sure, but remember that by booting from the CD you can try it out just like booting from the Ubuntu CD.
[05:09] <ricree> when I try to use pulseaudio for sound, I get no sound.  Any suggestions?
[05:09] <Kl4m> Ubuntu really needs a boot config editor.
[05:09] <thezanke> Kl4m, can i hide my old kernel? idealy i would like to have only 2 options, ubuntu and Windows
[05:09] <maap_rj> is the 8.04 much better than 7.10?
[05:09] <talcite> talcite: its a download manager that a lot of distros are moving to. Its specialized for .isos. There's jigit in the backport repos
[05:09] <talcite> oops,
[05:09] <neon> my laptop lcd is too dark after installing ubuntu hardy, i installed the nvidia driver and still very darl adjusting settings thru the nvidia panel makes it looks brighter but it does not look good , i remember there been some commands one can issue to lighten the screen brightness, can anyone refresh my memory on what those commands are, thanks
[05:09] <Kalimar> maap_rj: I think it is.
[05:10] <talcite> manuel__: ^
[05:10] <manuel__> talcite: yep I got it
[05:10] <suprie> maap_rj, so far so good
[05:10] <led3234> do i have to send for the livecd thing, or do i burn it onto a cd?
[05:10] <snadge> i cant figure out how to tell 8.04 to use the generic ide driver after its been installed.. the option i was told to put in menu.lst, comes up with file not found :/
[05:10] <x1250> bladezor: if you find one good enough, dont tell anyone, heh
[05:10] <n000b> kelvin911: are you there?
[05:10] <suprie> can anybody help me to configure my wireless
[05:10] <papampam> anyone here from the philippines? i wish to ask a question
[05:10] <ricree> led3234: you can burn it, the download link should have the iso
[05:10] <led3234> oh ok
[05:10] <talcite> manuel__: k. Yeah, don't use jigdo jigdo. It doesn't work very well yet. Use jigit and then use jigdo-lite (I think that's what its called)
[05:10] <Kalimar> Is anyone an expert on Samba/network configuration?
[05:10] <led3234> thank  you for the help
[05:10] <maap_rj> great, i intend to update my system during the weekend
[05:10] <manuel__> talcite: ok thanks I'll try that
[05:11] <talcite> manuel__: np
[05:11] <led3234> im now gonna go try the wubi (just 'cause it is easier)
[05:11] <nhaines> led3234: Flannel's and my pleasure.
[05:11] <n000b> owen1: are you here?
[05:11] <harriseldon> Kalimar have you checked #samba channel?
[05:11] <mgmz> how come it says lirc is missing in synaptic?
[05:11] <Kl4m> thezanke: you can remove the group of lines for each entry you don't want around the end of that file (oh boy I shouldn't be telling you that)
[05:11] <Kalimar> Nope, is there one?
[05:11] <maap_rj> I really hope not be necessary re-configurate so many things manually
[05:12] <harriseldon> Kalimar yes it is on freenode as well, you just join it
[05:12] <Kalimar> Oh, nice. Thanks harriseldon.
[05:12] <Lainy> i am unable to connect to the Internet in Hardy. Can someone help me out?
[05:12] <thezanke> Kl4m, hahaha dont worry.. I am already backing menu.lst up and have my ultimate boot cd ready..
[05:12] <nhaines> thezanke: the best way is to remove the kernel packages using Synaptic.  It's a good idea to leave the old one around for a week or so, just in case you find any bugs.  :)
[05:12] <maap_rj> this is my first time using a IRC chat... lol it is cool
[05:12] <cob> Larry: what does "ifconfig" say
[05:12] <cob> er Lainy
[05:13] <Flannel> thezanke: You can't remove them permanently, they'll show up as soon as you update your kernel again.  What you want to do is remove old kernel packages, then those entries won't be there anymore.  It's always a good idea to have two kernels (a known good one, and then the new one you just updated to) in case you find bugs
[05:13] <pawbie> Really hating 8.04 atm. :\
[05:13] <Kl4m> nhaines: do they become "autoremovable" after a while?
[05:13] <nhaines> thezanke: Also, remember that PgDn will get you to the Windows XP entry quickly!  Or, you can move Windows XP to the top and change the default boot option from "0" (first) to "1" (second).
[05:13] <Lainy> cob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4785960#post4785960
[05:13] <nhaines> Kl4m: it seems like they should be.  :)  But I don't recall.
[05:13] <Kl4m> thezanke: their advice is way better.
[05:13] <kelvin911> maap_rj: welcome
[05:14] <cob> Lainy = ilych?
[05:14] <joanjoseph> hi every1
[05:14] <Lainy> yes
[05:14] <mheath> Does anyone know if there is a release schedule for the first Hardy point release?
[05:14] <maap_rj> kelvin911, thanks a lot ;)
[05:14] <harriseldon> mattycoze sorry to leave you hanging. have you checked for errors in any of the system logs regarding your wireless. If it worked before, it seems to be a firmware loading issue.
[05:14] <Flannel> mheath: Whenever its needed.
[05:14] <mattycoze> nah i havent harriseldon sok
[05:14] <joanjoseph> can ubuntu 64bit will run on intel celeron d with 64bit architecture?
[05:14] <kelvin911> maap_rj: which client do u use ?
[05:14] <cob> Lainy: have you already done a sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter and completed the install?
[05:14] <n000b> kelvin911: are you on yahoo
[05:14] <mattycoze> harriseldon; currently reading this; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Intel_4965_AGN_WiFi_Driver/Fiesty?highlight=(WifiDocs%2FDriver)
[05:14] <ricree> does anyone know how to run a menu item with gksudo?
[05:14] <TheDukeNY> ﻿i've selected a .wav file to play as my login but it wont work, why is that?
[05:14] <nhaines> Flannel, mheath: Actually, I believe it's in 3 months, then every 6 months thereafter.
[05:15] <kelvin911> n000b: no i dont use yahoo
[05:15] <harriseldon> mattycoze good luck I hope that works for you
[05:15] <Lainy> cob: How do I apt-get without anInternet connection?
[05:15] <kelvin911> n000b: i have yahoo account but never use yahoo messenger
[05:15] <n000b> kelvin911: can i have your email addy?
[05:15] <mheath> nhaines: ah, thanks. :-) Gotta a kernel update I'm waiting on that didn't make it in before the freeze.
[05:15] <Lainy> cob: Is there a way to install that offline?
[05:15] <cob> use your wired connection
[05:15] <harriseldon> ricree what menu item? you have to find the command first
[05:15] <nhaines> mheath: You won't have to wait forever.  :)
[05:15] <kelvin911> n000b: kelvin911@hotmail.com, kelvin911@yahoo.com, kelvin911@gmail.com
[05:15] <ricree> I'm trying to do something in the users and groups program, but it is only letting me edit my own account.  Is there an easy way to get it to run with gksudo
[05:15] <kelvin911> n000b:  u can add my msn
[05:16] <james296> can anyone tell me WHY Glipper is removed from the Add-Remove Programs??
[05:16] <kelvin911> n000b: brb, cooking salmon
[05:16] <maccam94> is there some reason why the What's New link isn't on the main ubuntu.com page?
[05:16] <Lainy> cob: OK, I will try that. Is there anything else I should while I use a wired connection?
[05:16] <Lainy> I should do*
[05:16] <pawbie> james296: Search for it in synaptic.  Or "clipboard manager"
[05:16] <james296> I did!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:16] <Starnestommy> james296: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[05:16] <harriseldon> ricree I sometime right-click on the menu item and create a launcher on the desktop, from there I can goto properties and under launcher tab -- command field, I can prepend gksudo
[05:16] <nhaines> ricree: Use the "Unlock" button.
[05:16] <james296> oh waity
[05:16] <james296> ok
[05:16] <dudus> I have a problem with nautilus not showing thumbnails for video files..... anyone can help? Already increased file size in preview tab. It's been broken since alpha 4 for me. Looks like something is broken, maybe I have to reinstall some packages
[05:17] <juano__> can-t put resolution to 1280x1024, i installed already nvidia-glx-new any ideas _
[05:17] <cob> Lainy: I don't think so, but try an iwlist scan in a terminal once the fwcutter's installed
[05:17] <MachinTrucChose> is there a channel for Network Manager?
[05:17] <Deiz> So, as with every time I install Ubuntu, windows maximize to both my monitors instead of one. Is there a workaround? I recall with 7.04 I got lucky after a reboot and it started working properly.
[05:17] <cob> see if your ssid shows up
[05:17] <joanjoseph> hi
[05:17] <Lainy> cob: Okay, thank you.
[05:17] <joanjoseph> can anyone help me?
[05:17] <joanjoseph> i have 1 question only.
[05:17] <ricree> nhaines and harriseldon:  thank you for your help
[05:17] <pawbie> joanjoseph: The one you already asked?
[05:17] <joanjoseph> yez pawbie
[05:18] <pawbie> I see.  Then we're done here, no?
[05:18] <brad016> How can i make my Compiz Fusion work like it did in 7.10, like so that it does work, it says it can't enable the effects.
[05:18] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose: No channel for network-manager but here.
[05:18] <dave11> !kontact
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kontact - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <TheDukeNY> ﻿i've selected a .wav file to play as my login but it wont work, why is that?
[05:18] <thezanke> thank you Kl4m, nhaines, and Flannel
[05:18] <joanjoseph> about the ubuntu 64bit structure. and my processor is intel celeron d with 64bit architecture. would this be ok?
[05:18] <bladezor> x1250, Heh my cancel button on my update manager isn't doing anything
[05:19] <joanjoseph> i need advice from xperts
[05:19] <nhaines> ricree: my pleasure.
[05:19] <maccam94> joanjoseph: unless you have 4GB or more of ram, stick with x86
[05:19] <pawbie> joanjoseph: 64 = 64, so ya.  Boot a live CD with a 64 bit build.
[05:19] <pawbie> maccam94: Terrible advice
[05:19] <joanjoseph> ah ok pawbie
[05:19] <joanjoseph> tysm for your nice advice pawbie
[05:19] <neon> my laptop lcd is too dark after installing ubuntu hardy, i installed the nvidia driver and still very darl adjusting settings thru the nvidia panel makes it looks brighter but it does not look good , i remember there been some commands one can issue to lighten the screen brightness, can anyone refresh my memory on what those commands are, thanks
[05:20] <Estilo> i am trying to create a USB bootable from live cd of 8.04 .. will the process be same as gutsy ?
[05:20] <bbyever> where can i find the hardy hashes?
[05:20] <MrObvious> Does Hardy come with B43 installed by default under the Restricted Drivers Manager? If so then my 4311 BCM chip should work fine right?
[05:20] <cob> neon: dimming settings in power manager?
[05:20] <dudus> can anyone help me with my missing video thumbnails on nautilus ?
[05:20] <Kl4m> !md5sums > bbyever
[05:20] <manuel__> I installed hardy and messed with the ati propietary driver, but still no luck with the black logout screen, then tried Envy, but then got a white screen ... then it appears that  my mesa driver wont have direct rendering so compiz is gone. I tried to install again the ati driver through envy and manually, it says it installs but mesa remains, with no direct rendering. Anybody know how can I really install the ati driver or how can I restore direct r
[05:20] <manuel__> endering with mesa ??
[05:20] <bbyever> Kl4m: the wiki hasnt been updated
[05:21] <neon> cob: tried that and it does not work
[05:21] <Skuller> Hey guys, I am trying to connect to the internet using 7.04. It says the access concentrator did not respond. There is a switch with three things plugged in:- the dsl model, 2 pc's running 7.04 with one of them connected and the other not being able to connect. Any ideas? I have recently switched from XP and in XP I used to normally connect using pppoe from each pc using the same modem but not so with ubun
[05:21] <nhaines> MrObvious: Yes, the driver is included but the firmware cannot be redistributed.  Use a wired connection and the Hardware Drivers applet to automatically install the firmware.
[05:21] <Kl4m> bbyever: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/MD5SUMS
[05:21] <morphy> hiya everyone..
[05:21] <Starnestommy> manuel__: installing envy most likely made things worse
[05:21] <bbyever>  Kl4m: thanks
[05:21] <morphy> is there anyway we can create a USB bootable off the ISO for Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[05:22] <MrObvious> !usb
[05:22] <ubotu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:22] <manuel__> Starnestommy: damn .. I'm considering on re-installing ubuntu ... but there must be something I can do?
[05:22] <MrObvious> morphy: Please see what ubotu just posted.
[05:22] <philsf> what should one do if one can't kill a process with kill -9? (other than rebooting)
[05:22] <morphy> cool.. thanks :)
[05:22] <MrObvious> You're welcome.
[05:22] <juano__> i am getting a low resolution with hardy heron, i installed nvidia-glx-new already, my monitor seems undetected in xorg.conf, what can i do ?
[05:22] <nhaines> philsf: Make sure the process is non essential, then use 'sudo kill -9'.
[05:22] <Starnestommy> philsf: does sudo kill -9 work?
[05:22] <caifei> hello
[05:22] <caifei> everybody
[05:22] <owen1> harriseldon: can the server ip be dynamic?
[05:23] <nhaines> Hello, caifei!
[05:23] <ripps> manuel_: did you use envy or envyng?
[05:23] <philsf> Starnestommy and nhaines: forgot to mention I tried that already
[05:23] <manuel__> ripps: envyng
[05:23] <XceII> juano__:  it happened to me, i installed nvidia settings plugin, and it fixed it
[05:23] <Starnestommy> philsf: which process is it?
[05:23] <philsf> ps x reports: 13524 ?        D      0:00 sync
[05:23] <ademung> can anyone explain installing python eggs on ubuntu
[05:23] <ripps> have you used envy before you used envyng?
[05:23] <juano__> Xcell aahh ok thanks i will try
[05:24] <XceII> k
[05:24] <manuel__> ripps: nope
[05:24] <Skuller> I am trying to connect to the internet using 7.04. It says the access concentrator did not respond. There is a switch with three things plugged in:- the dsl modem, 2 pc's running 7.04 with one of them connected and the other not being able to connect. Any ideas? I have recently switched from XP and in XP I used to normally connect using pppoe from each pc using the same modem but not so with ubuntu
[05:24] <harriseldon> owen1 if it is a registered domain name with a dns server then you can use the name, otherwise you must know the current ip address. site like dyndns.org allow you to register your own dns for a chaning ip
[05:24] <caifei> is there  Chinese?
[05:24] <ripps> manuel_: can you post your xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:24] <Flannel> !cn | caifei
[05:24] <ubotu> caifei: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[05:24] <owen1> harriseldon: thanks
[05:24] <nhaines> Flannel: Ooh, that's nifty!
[05:24] <Starnestommy> philsf: I think sync is a very important process for making sure that data gets written to the disk correctly
[05:25] <nhaines> !de | nhaines
[05:25] <caifei> thanks
[05:25] <pawbie> nhaines: fail :\
[05:25] <neon> the command goes something like this sudo echo 70 > /proc/acpi/video/*************
[05:25] <philsf> Starnestommy: it's beem running all day long, and it's "defunct"
[05:25] <Starnestommy> philsf: you may need to restart or just ignore it
[05:25] <philsf> and it's owned by a non-root user
[05:25] <Kl4m> neon: woah don't use *'s there
[05:26] <NAiL> Anyone using Xen on Hardy? Successfully?
[05:26] <philsf> Starnestommy: yeah, just checking for alternatives. thanks anyway
[05:26] <Some_Person> Why does Firefox keep freezing up for a few secs on my
[05:26] <Some_Person> *me?
[05:26] <juano__> XceII: worked great, thanks!
[05:26] <nhaines> Some_Person: It could be that you load a complex page with a lot of plugins like Flash or Java.
[05:26] <XceII> ok
[05:26] <nhaines> pawbie: I'm sorry, I don't recall what we were talking about.
[05:27] <harriseldon> neon have you checked this bug thread https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/12637 it looks like there is a link to a forum post as well
[05:27] <Some_Person> nhaines: nope, just normal stuff, like ubuntu forums and google news
[05:27] <Flash-xD> Hey guys, how can i put 1280x1024 on Ubuntu 8.04?
[05:27] <ceil420> Is there a simple command to fix this, or am i going to have to go through the log and manually remove packages one at a time? :x 2008-04-24 23:24:37,678 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[05:27] <manuel__> ripps: here you go http://pastebin.com/m7dcccf72
[05:27] <Cl0setheist> Hello all, i've got a problem with dist-upgrade. I use apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. but nothing happens. just a few packages are being installed.
[05:27] <pipegeek> Interesting.  So, when update-manager fails, do-release-upgrade which uses the same underpinnings, may succeed.
[05:28] <Geoffrey2> what's the command line to bring up bittorrent?
[05:28] <Kl4m> Some_Person: I have the same problem. Likely a firefox bug. It should be dealt with by the release
[05:28] <Cl0setheist> How do i upgrade to hardy properly?
[05:28] <pipegeek> do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeVideText
[05:28] <Some_Person> Kl4m: never got this problem on FF3beta5 in Gutsy
[05:28] <dave11> !upgrade
[05:28] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:28] <arooni> when is gutsy able to upgrade to hardy (using the cool built in upgrade thing)
[05:28] <nhaines> pipegeek: did you have luck with that? :)
[05:28] <neon> harriseldon: reading right now thanks
[05:28] <Starnestommy> arooni: now
[05:28] <Kl4m> Cl0setheist: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades . the !upgrade note is outdated.
[05:28] <pipegeek> nhaines: yes.  Which is bloody weird.  Somehow, it decided that there was an upgrade to be done.
[05:28] <Flannel> arooni: now; except you'll be waiting forever on slow mirrors.  Give it a few days.
[05:28] <nhaines> arooni: It should work right now, but I'd advise you to wait a week or at least a couple days.
[05:28] <grumbel> Did anything special happen with the /dev/hd* files? Since it looks like I have lost them all after the dist-upgrade
[05:28] <Some_Person> Kl4m: also my machines hard drive keeps making "loading" noises
[05:29] <ripps> manuel_: after you reinstall fglrx using EnvyNG, try running aticonfig --initial.
[05:29] <nhaines> pipegeek: I'm very happy to hear that.
[05:29] <pipegeek> I didn't know that tool existed.  Good to know.
[05:29] <Flash-xD> Hey guys, how can i put 1280x1024 on Ubuntu 8.04?
[05:29] <pipegeek> thanks, nhaines
[05:29] <Flannel> grumbel: You upgraded from dapper?
[05:29] <arooni> ok i can wait
[05:29] <arooni> waht's really different between gutsy & hardy
[05:29] <Starnestommy> grumbel: they may have become sd*
[05:29] <grumbel> Flannel: gutsy
[05:29] <MachinTrucChose> is there more Compiz effects if I download the Advanced Desktop Effect Settings? Or is the one in Hardy Heron contain everything already?
[05:29] <pawbie> Flash-xD: System -> preferences -> resolution
[05:29] <dave11> through adept
[05:29] <Rycher> What other OS systems are out there that are good?
[05:29] <Kl4m> Some_Person: if you just upgraded/installed, some internal databases are going to update in the first hour
[05:29] <pawbie> Rycher: OS/2 Warp
[05:29] <Flannel> grumbel: Interesting.  Well, for a while now IDE drives have been mapped to SATA drives (sdX instead of hdX), perhaps in Hardy, they don't even show up in the filesystem.
[05:29] <Geoffrey2> if I want to run bit torrent from the command line, what's the command to type in to bring it up?
[05:29] <devin_> gentoo is aright
[05:29] <nhaines> MachinTrucChose: Hardy contains everything, but Advanced Desktop Effects is the interface to customize your effects.
[05:29] <Some_Person> Kl4m: i upgraded days ago
[05:29] <Flash-xD> System -> preferences -> resolution, max 1024x768
[05:30] <coldboot> Does anyone know of a program that makes file extensions lowercase?
[05:30] <Some_Person> Kl4m: problem with firefox started yesterday
[05:30] <MachinTrucChose> ok, thanks
[05:30] <coldboot> I know how to do it manually, it would just be convenient if there's one in the repository...
[05:30] <pawbie> coldboot: bulk rename
[05:30] <pawbie> Flash-xD: Manually add it to xorg.conf ?
[05:30] <DBautell> Geoffrey2, btdownloadcurses.py if I remember right
[05:30] <myf> update-mannager seems to get better not, still didn't make it through, but it allowed me to start downloading at the very beginning.
[05:30] <grumbel> Flannel: ok, thanks. /dev/sd* stuff is in place
[05:30] <Fa> the ubuntu servers are getting overloaded i think
[05:30] <Psynaut> Hi all. I was just looking for some advice as to which application people in here find best for creating audio cd's from mp3's?
[05:30] <ripps> manuel_: also, try adding Option "Composite" "enable" to the Extensions section of your xorg.conf
[05:30] <coldboot> pawbie: What's the name of the thing in the repository?
[05:30] <ceil420> Is there a simple command to fix this, or am i going to have to go through the log and manually remove packages one at a time? :x 2008-04-24 23:24:37,678 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[05:30] <Rycher> pawdie: why is OS/2 Warp good?
[05:31] <Diurpaneus> hello
[05:31] <pawbie> Rycher: Millions of ATMs can't be wrong?
[05:31] <dave11> !konversation
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <pawbie> coldboot: What thing?
[05:31] <grumbel> With /dev/sd* its continues a,b,c,d,.. without care about what is primary master/secondary-master/slave and such, correct?
[05:31] <Some_Person> Kl4m: found the problem: Firefox is memory leaking :O
[05:31] <MachinTrucChose> anyone here use a wireless connection exclusively?
[05:31] <dave11> is the bot broken?
[05:31] <Rycher> pawbie: lol wait, im confused...
[05:31] <Flash-xD> pawalls, http://pastebin.com/m6515b0e0
[05:31] <pawbie> MachinTrucChose: Me.
[05:31] <cob> MachinTrucChose: I do
[05:31] <coldboot> pawbie: Batch rename
[05:31] <Flash-xD> pawbie, http://pastebin.com/m6515b0e0
[05:32] <coldboot> pawbie: I mean bulk rename
[05:32] <MachinTrucChose> have you run into any issues with the network configurator requiring you to re-enter the WPA key everytime you reboot?
[05:32] <pawbie> coldboot: Oh!  It's called bulk rename.  Should be under system tools, I think (atleast, it is in Debian).
[05:32] <Flannel> grumbel: well, the orders will determine what letters they get, but UUIDs makes it not matter for fstab
[05:32] <Diurpaneus> I have a problem with 8.04. When I start a web page which use flash player I receive an image with play button, how can I remove this play button? Please help!
[05:32] <grumbel> Flannel: not much UUID in my fstab, so my system is pretty wreaked at the moment
[05:32] <harriseldon> Rycher: pawbie was trying to make a joke
[05:32] <harriseldon> r
[05:32] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose: yes and yes
[05:33] <dave11> is flash built into the live cd?
[05:33] <MachinTrucChose> lk4m: did you fix it?
[05:33] <cob> Diurpaneus: I would remove the free swf player and install adobe's
[05:33] <harriseldon> Rycher are you looking for other distributions of linux?
[05:33] <pawbie> harriseldon: A joke?  OS2 rocks.
[05:33] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose: I use wicd now. I got fed up with network-manager
[05:33] <MachinTrucChose> ah yes...Wicd is how I fixed it back with 7.10
[05:33] <cob> network manager isn't as horrible as it used to be...
[05:33] <mutk> pawbie, Rocks like the 90's
[05:33] <MEtaLpREs> does anyone know where to change the font dpi in xfce?  my fonts are all way to small to read and i dont see the option anywhere
[05:33] <Diurpaneus> how can I remove the free swf, because I already install adobe
[05:33] <manuel__> ripps: Ok let me see if that works
[05:33] <nhaines> dave11: No.  Try installing Ubuntu Restricted Extras with Add/Remove.
[05:33] <dave11> ok
[05:33] <coldboot> pawbie: Is that called "system-tools"?
[05:34] <blmm> Hi. Do I need to chmod a+w for Samba to be able to write to a directory? Who is the process that does the write running as? I tried to give write access to the group samba, but that did not cut it.
[05:34] <pawbie> mutk: Still rocks...
[05:34] <dave11> nhaines: thanks
[05:34] <Miesco> Is there a hardy channel?
[05:34] <Flash-xD> pawbie, what i need to add in my xorg.conf? http://pastebin.com/m6515b0e0
[05:34] <Flannel> Miesco: you're in it.
[05:34] <pawbie> coldboot: I don't know, check under Applications -> System Tools
[05:34] <mutk> ... like the nineties
[05:34] <neeto> Is there a messaging client that works on AIM and MSN and stuff from within the terminal?
[05:34] <aubade> MetaBot: Settings > User Interface, Font DPI
[05:34] <SniperAtWork> is the main package repository down, im getting failed hits when reloading my package list. and whats the deal with the xchat package not being for i386?
[05:34] <nhaines> Miesco: Now that hardy is out, this is it.
[05:34] <harriseldon> pawbie I am sure it does. You can continue to run it while you bask in the nostalgia. We will stick to modern distributions like BeOS. lol
[05:34] <Rycher> harriseldon: ohhhh i gotcha :D   yeah... basically any thing other then Windows!
[05:35] <Miesco> But I got kicked from #ubuntu-release-party or whatever
[05:35] <ceil420> Is there a simple command to fix this, or am i going to have to go through the log and manually remove packages one at a time? :x 2008-04-24 23:24:37,678 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[05:35] <Miesco> For talking about my genitals
[05:35] <cob> apt-get remove gnash maybe?
[05:35] <mutk> pawbie, I gave away my OS2warp boxed set to a colleague. He was like 'oh man this is great'. I agree in it's time it was wonderful.
[05:35] <aubade> Err, MEtaLpREs even. Settings > User Interface, Font DPI.
[05:35] <Flannel> Miesco: That doesn't give you the opportunity to talk about it here
[05:35] <Kl4m> neeto: there is one. I'm searching right now
[05:35] <nhaines> There's no reason to put down other OSes.  Every one has its different attributes that make it endearing, even if only for nostalgia sake.
[05:35] <pawbie> mutk: Hey!  I lost my printer floppy....   you should've copied it.
[05:35] <harriseldon> Rycher the people in this channel are going to be pretty ubuntu/kubuntu biased. you may want to check out a site like distrowatch.com
[05:35] <SniperAtWork> is the main package repository down, im getting failed hits when reloading my package list. and whats the deal with the xchat package not being for i386?
[05:35] <SniperAtWork> ?
[05:36] <jeffimperial> hello.. I'm downloading Hardy via Update Manager, and it's taking too long. I have the alternate ISO but my writers are busted. Was wondering if i could extract the ISO's contents to some directory on my machine so that I get past the downloads quickly, and skip to "Installing the upgrades" part
[05:36] <jedimasterk> 1183 out of 1225 fetched and still 2hours to go
[05:36] <MachinTrucChose> ok, I installed CompizConfig, but I don't see any shortcuts. How can I edit the visual effects?
[05:36] <LainIwakura> cob: Hi this is Lainy. b43fwcutter is already installed but ssid does not show up in an iwlist scan.
[05:36] <dny> How can I tell if my system has already upgraded? :/
[05:36] <LoLeN> http://xkcd.com/415/
[05:36] <Flannel> jeffimperial: just mount the iso, yeah.  No need to extract
[05:36] <pawbie> Rycher: Seriously, try Debian.  And SUSE10, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.  Gentoo if you feel like waiting.
[05:36] <Rycher> harriseldon: well has anybody tried ubuntu Studio? I do graphic design (im only 15 yrs old) so i wanna try it.. but get feedback first.
[05:36] <grumbel> How do I get the UUID of a drive/disk?
[05:36] <Flannel> LoLeN: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <SniperAtWork> 8.04 seems slower than 7.10
[05:36] <kindofabuzz> any new broadcom wireless fixes yet that work?
[05:36] <Rycher> pawbie: thx man
[05:37] <cob> does your laptop have a physical radio switch or is it software-based with a keystroke or something LainIwakura?
[05:37] <devin_> SniperAwork could try naim
[05:37] <nhaines> MachinTrucChose: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings.
[05:37] <Fishscene> MachinTrucChose: It's under system> preferences/Administration
[05:37] <jeffimperial> Flannel --> mount the ISO, and the rest should follow, even after restart?
[05:37] <neeto> Is there a messaging client that works on AIM and MSN and stuff from within the terminal?
[05:37] <LoLeN> Flannel: sorry
[05:37] <MachinTrucChose> thanks
[05:37] <coldboot> pawbie: There's nothing there...
[05:37] <LoLeN> Flannel: not even jokes?
[05:37] <Sniper606> naim??
[05:37] <dny> How can I tell if my system has already upgraded? :/
[05:37] <coldboot> pawbie: If you can find it on your machine, then you can find out what the executeable is called.
[05:37] <Deiz> neeto: Finch. Comes with Pidgin.
[05:37] <james__> Hardy is taking so long to download via update manager because EVERYONE is doing it, please be patient
[05:37] <nks_> Hello All, would any one happen to know of a good flash downloader for ubuntu 8.04 - (want to download youtube & google flash videos !)
[05:37] <kindofabuzz> <--not doing it
[05:37] <coldboot> pawbie: There's nothing called Bulk Rename that comes with Ubuntu.
[05:37] <LainIwakura> cob: software-based keystroke
[05:37] <nhaines> neeto: try finch!
[05:37] <Noob52307> y
[05:38] <Sniper606> jesus fing christ would someome tell me is the main package repository down or what
[05:38] <Noob52307> o
[05:38] <Flannel> LoLeN: right.  This is for support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place for jokes, we welcome them, and discussion on the new xkcds.
[05:38] <bladezor> If I'm upgrading my Ubuntu I should just download the Alternate ISO, correct?
[05:38] <pawbie> coldboot: Sorry, then.  It comes with Debian. :\
[05:38] <nhaines> neeto: It's basically Pidgin with a text interface.
[05:38] <Noob52307> DCC SEND HAXHAXHAXHAXHAX
[05:38] <devin_> SniperAwork http://naim.n.ml.org/about
[05:38] <Sniper606> i cant reload my packages
[05:38] <neeto> nhaines: sweet thanks
[05:38] <cob> Lainlwakura have you tried toggling it?
[05:38] <Kl4m> neeto: the name is finch
[05:38] <harriseldon> Rycher I agree with pawbie. If you want to really learn linux, try a distro like slackware or gentoo. If you want to do music production I have heard good things about Ubuntu Studio and also Dynebolix
[05:38] <kindofabuzz> sniper, today is realease day, they are super slammed
[05:38] <ripps> nks_: try the Video Download Helper extension for Firefox
[05:38] <jeffimperial> Flannel, how exactly does one mount an ISO? Do i need 3rd-party package for that?
[05:38] <Flannel> !iso | jeffimperial
[05:38] <ubotu> jeffimperial: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:38] <kicky> DCC SEND HAXHAXHAXHAXHAX
[05:38] <Kl4m> neeto: nhaines beat me to it
[05:38] <LainIwakura> cob: toggling it? How do I do that?
[05:38] <hellmitre> anybody know how to enable wireless on a macbook pro in hardy?
[05:39] <Sniper606> did anyone get a msg that xchat is not made for thier i386 hardware wtf is with that, i need xchat
[05:39] <Fritzel> my pointer is still not staying visible, is anyone here yet who has any clue what might be causing it?
[05:39] <Flannel> Sniper606: Everyone is trying to access them right now.  Just be patient (and try again in a few days)
[05:39] <pawbie> coldboot: Wow, I was way off.  The bulk-rename I have came from Xfce4.
[05:39] <Rycher> harriseldon: allright sweet. Thanks for the help. I gotta go to bed cause i got school in the morning :( Cya....
[05:39] <kindofabuzz> anyone got broadcom chip wireless to work in Hardy yet?
[05:39] <Sniper606> haha a few days
[05:39] <FastZ> what's up with all the floodbot bans?
[05:39] <Sniper606> im so anxious i dunno if i can wait a few days
[05:39] <cob> Lainlwakura: just use the keystroke to turn it off, try scanning again, turn it back on, try scanning again
[05:39] <Kl4m> !broadcom
[05:39] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[05:39] <LainIwakura> cob: OK, let me try that. Thanks.
[05:39] <hilts50> About to do a fresh install on an external FW drive hooked up to my macbook pro.  What should I reformat the drive to before I start?
[05:39] <Sniper606> i want my ubuntu software now!
[05:40] <kindofabuzz> Kl4m, lol that does absolutly no good
[05:40] <nks_> ripps - I tried but nothing's coming up - so I thought to ask if anyone knew of something !
[05:40] <nhaines> Sniper606: You can always try to use a torrent to download the Ubuntu Alternate Install CD and upgrade using that.
[05:40] <harriseldon> hilts50, let the installer format it
[05:40] <dave11> looks like I made a smart decision to wait a couple of weeks before I upgrade..lol
[05:40] <MachinTrucChose> compiz effects: mind > blown
[05:40] <hilts50> harriseldon: thanks  :)
[05:40] <ripps> nks_: What's not coming up?
[05:40] <Sniper606> no i already have 8.04 installed, its the package repository im having trouble with
[05:40] <MachinTrucChose> it'll probably get boring after a couple of days
[05:40] <Bubble_tea> Is the server slow?
[05:40] <Bubble_tea> Or its jst me?
[05:40] <XceII> ya, compiz in 8.04 rocks
[05:40] <MachinTrucChose> but i'm thoroughly marking out right now
[05:40] <nhaines> Sniper606: There are no updates since Wednesday mornng.
[05:40] <jeffimperial> !mountpoint | jeffimperial
[05:40] <cob> yes, it is slow
[05:40] <Kl4m> kindofabuzz: "The bcm43xx driver (via manual install) is now considered to be deprecated as it is now included in Ubuntu 8.04 and all Linux kernel versions 2.6.24 and later." I was trusting this. Sorry.
[05:40] <cob> you are not the only one!
[05:40] <bladezor> dave11, just download the alternate torrent?
[05:41] <Bubble_tea> XceII how so
[05:41] <Sniper606> i beg the differ it found updates and cant get them
[05:41] <Flannel> Bubble_tea: Yes.  Everyone is trying to access it at the same time.
[05:41] <bladezor> EVERYONE SHOULD USE THE ALTERNATE TORRENT DOWNLOAD, I'm getting 800KB/s
[05:41] <kindofabuzz> Kl4m: the driver in hardy don't work
[05:41] <nks_> ripps - no type of download plugins nor attachments..
[05:41] <jeffimperial> !mountpoint
[05:41] <XceII> Bubble_tea:  it does for me
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountpoint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <Fritzel> !pointer
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <nks_> ripps - i went to tools - -
[05:41] <hellmitre> anybody know how to get this: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5418 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Express Adapter wireless card working in hardy?
[05:41] <Sniper606> im not talking about updates to ubuntu im talking about the updated packages list that it wants to get via add\remove when it asks you to reload
[05:41] <dave11> bladezor: sounds like people are having alot of problems with the new version
[05:42] <Sniper606> it cant get them
[05:42] <neeto> Is it just me or does connecting to archive.ubuntu.org take forever?
[05:42] <ripps> nks_: It won't let install the extension? Did you try firefox's add-on website?
[05:42] <pawbie> hellmitre: Madwifing
[05:42] <jeffimperial> Flannel, how do i get the <mountpoint> part.. don't u just love being a noob...
[05:42] <harriseldon> jeffimperial the mountpoint is the destination directory. on linux drives are mounted to a directory on the filesystem
[05:42] <bullgard4> mc shows an entry prefixed with an exclamation mark (!). I found that this means a "stale symlink". What is a 'stale symlink'?
[05:42] <bladezor> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[05:42] <hellmitre> I can't get it to function, pawbie
[05:42] <hellmitre> I have recompiled it and inserted it into the running kernel several times
[05:42] <hellmitre> nothin'
[05:42] <kindofabuzz> neeto: get in line, you are only the 1 millionth person doing the same thing
[05:42] <harriseldon> jeffimperial, just create a new directory and use the full path as the mount point
[05:42] <neeto> kindofabuzz: figured it was something like that
[05:42] <joetheodd> Stupid question -- are the repositories down or are they just really bogged thanks to the release today?
[05:42] <kindofabuzz> omg
[05:42] <hellmitre> bogged down.
[05:43] <Sniper606> i think they are down
[05:43] <Flannel> jeffimperial: mountpoint would be an arbitrary place in your filesystem that you wanted the ISO to be mounted to (so you browse to /whatever/your/mountpoint/is/ to view the contents of the CD/iso)
[05:43] <pawbie> Alright, 8.04 must have serious issues with RAID.
[05:43] <Sniper606> im having the repository problem too
[05:43] <goat|work> Sniper606: they are not down
[05:43] <nickrober> you can change them to a different country and they work
[05:43] <goat|work> they are jammed
[05:43] <joetheodd> thanks hellmitre.
[05:43] <cob> pawbie: why's that?
[05:43] <nickrober> i used sweden and i could install fine
[05:43] <nhaines> jeffimperial: /mnt is a good temporary mountpint.
[05:43] <karllenz> does hardy come with compiz?
[05:43] <neeto> lolol
[05:43] <Sniper606> well it aint working for me so for me the damn thing is down
[05:43] <blueeyesmike> Hi, The power button and shutting the lid on my laptop no longer work after the update? anyone else with this problem
[05:43] <nhaines> karllenz: Yes.
[05:43] <nks_> nope i sure didn't from the website ! i've tried from the firefox that's installed on my system... i'll give that a try -- thanx ripps
[05:43] <nickrober> then i switched back to usa server after i was done
[05:43] <kindofabuzz> anyone got a deb made with the firmware and b43 cutter made up for hardy?
[05:43] <nhaines> Sniper606: It isn't down, it's simply overloaded.
[05:43] <karllenz> nhaines: how do i enable it
[05:43] <karllenz> nhaines: i dont see the custom tab
[05:43] <Sniper606> i need my packages
[05:43] <Sniper606> what can i do
[05:44] <nhaines> karllenz: It should be enabled by default if your hardware supports it.  You'll have a Desktop Effects tab.
[05:44] <jeffimperial> thanks, EVERYONE
[05:44] <nhaines> Sniper606: There is nothing you can do.
[05:44] <cob> kindofabuzz: installing b43-fwcutter works fine for my broadcom bcm4309
[05:44] <ripps> nks_: hold on, let me see if their's a development build for FF3b5
[05:44] <Sniper606> and why does xchat say its not made for my hardware
[05:44] <harriseldon> blueeyesmike did you verify the settings in the power management preferences?
[05:44] <nks_> ripps  - - ok
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> cob, i can't install if i don't have a internet connection to installl it
[05:44] <karllenz> mmm nope nothing could it be cuz im using on board graphics
[05:44] <nhaines> karllenz: On the other hand, installing "Advanced Desktop Effects" from Add/Remove.
[05:44] <Kurtis-> hmm, someone else having troubles with a bcm43xx chip
[05:44] <Sniper606> i need xchat damnit
[05:44] <jeffimperial> somethin' like /home/jeff/Application Backups/mnt right?
[05:44] <blueeyesmike> harriseldon: yeah I checked that it is set to ask me and blank screen
[05:44] <LainIwakura> cob: I am still unable to pick up any wireless networks.
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> kvirc ftw
[05:44] <Kurtis-> I have a bcm4311 rev 2
[05:44] <cob> kindofabuzz: no wired interface?
[05:44] <XceII> reinstall  xchat then
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> cob, nope
[05:44] <Kl4m> Sniper606: switch to a canadian mirror.
[05:45] <karllenz> nhaines: could it be cuz im using on board gpu?
[05:45] <morphy> I tried creating a bootable using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#head-7bf9fcff1eacd1e0ef930866f3ed0f0f26086348 and that dint work, I got an error missing operating system when trying to boot off that USB
[05:45] <jeffimperial> !iso
[05:45] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:45] <osmosis> i think after all day I finally got things working.
[05:45] <Kl4m> !usb > morphy
[05:45] <Sniper606> hell with it im too drunk to bother with this tonight
[05:45] <morphy> danke, checking :)
[05:45] <Kurtis-> "bcm4311 rev 2 / bcm4312 (needs patches for 2.6.24)"
[05:45] <Kurtis-> what sort of patch?
[05:45] <nhaines> karllenz: It is possible.  Not every GPU supports compositing.
[05:46] <ripps> nks_: sorry, I've been using Nightly Tester Tools to force my already installed extensions to work, but I don't know how to install new extensions to be compatible
[05:46] <karllenz> nhaines: i can play wow on it without a problem when running windows
[05:46] <karllenz> nhaines: ikd
[05:46] <MeatGrinder> how about composting
[05:46] <pawbie> Composting?
[05:46] <morphy> Kl4m, I tried following the steps mentioned there for Persistent live USB install.. I guess those are for 7.10, it dint seem to work for me :(
[05:46] <patspam> hi guys, hardy cd isn't auto-asking if I want to upgrade (from gutsy) and /cdrom/cdromupgrade doesn't exist
[05:46] <NAiL> hmm
[05:46] <morphy> I get an error "missing operating system"
[05:46] <fysa> Is there a daily-live mirror?
[05:46] <Zicks> where can i find a list of the changes to hardy heron ?
[05:46] <redbrain_> lol
[05:46] <morphy> I dont see a few folders on root which I use to see for other installations
[05:46] <redbrain_> on the ubuntu.com
[05:46] <fysa> I am trying to install wubi and it seems to want a newer ISO than final.
[05:46] <NAiL> 9mb/sec isn't half bad speed :)
[05:46] <harriseldon> blueeyesmike have you searched online for debugging acpi on linux? It seems to be acpi related. possible events are in /etc/acpi/events but it is a bit cryptic
[05:47] <nhaines> morphy: which ones?
[05:47] <Guest46686> is the apt repos freaking out?
[05:47] <cob> Lainlwakura: can you post your lspci, lsmod, iwconfig, ifconfig, and lshw -C network to pastebin?
[05:47] <fysa> the cdimage server is dead slow.
[05:47] <Zicks> where can i find a list of the changes to hardy heron ?
[05:47] <morphy> like the disctree..
[05:47] <nks_> ripps - no problem, that's for trying, i'm going to see if i can get something form the firefox website---thanx alot!
[05:47] <morphy> I have verified the checksums and they are alright
[05:47] <MachinTrucChose> what does "Button4/5/etc" mean in Compiz?
[05:47] <dave11> patspam: get updates in adept
[05:47] <MachinTrucChose> most mice have 3 buttons
[05:47] <nhaines> morphy: Ubuntu CD doesn't contain disctree anymore.
[05:47] <crdlb> MachinTrucChose: scroll wheel
[05:47] <redbrain_> list of changes == http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[05:47] <IcemanV9> Zicks: on the ubuntu.com
[05:47] <MachinTrucChose> holy shit, awesome zoom
[05:47] <ripps> nks_: I'm sure there's an extension somewhere that works with FF3b5, I just don't know where.
[05:47] <caveat> hi everyone
[05:47] <Guest46686> adept??
[05:47] <harriseldon> MachinTrucChose they usually refer to scroll up and scroll down on the mouse wheel
[05:47] <MachinTrucChose> thanks
[05:48] <dave11> !adept
[05:48] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:48] <caveat> i accidentally deleted a bunch of stuff on my harddrive.  what's the best program to recover it?
[05:48] <blueeyesmike> harriseldon: I checked /var/log/acpid and it says that it is running powerbtn.sh but running that always does nothing
[05:48] <Guest46686> dude
[05:48] <Zicks> why deosnt emerald work with hardy heron ?
[05:48] <dave11> patspam:sorry wrong distro
[05:48] <Guest46686> is anyone else not able to run sudo apt-get update?
[05:48] <lartza_> How can I overclock my CPU?
[05:48] <NAiL> Anyone got Xen working properly with Hardy? My instances pause a lot
[05:48] <Guest46686> or is it my connection
[05:48] <crdlb> Zicks: because you need to explicitly enable it now
[05:48] <nhaines> MachinTrucChose: Super + mousewheel, right?  Super + 1, 2, 3 also have a couple preset zoom levels.
[05:48] <XceII> lol lartza_
[05:48] <Zicks> how and why and where  ?
[05:48] <patspam> dave11: that's cool, I can see the New Distro available notice in Update Manager but it tries to download from the web, whereas I have the CDrom already
[05:48] <nhaines> Guest46686: Everyone is having trouble because the servers are being hammered.
[05:48] <NAiL> Guest46686: repos are a bit busy
[05:48] <lartza_> XceII: What?
[05:49] <Guest46686> ah ok
[05:49] <XceII> dont bother
[05:49] <Guest46686> thanks guys
[05:49] <pawbie> nhaines: torrent ftw
[05:49] <crdlb> Zicks: please come to #compiz-fusion for a moment
[05:49] <Guest46686> i thought it was my wireless ;P
[05:49] <Guest46686> goodnight pplz
[05:49] <FloodBot2> Guest46686: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <jtmonz> FTW
[05:49] <Guest46686> 8.04 rules!
[05:49] <nhaines> patspam: You need the Alternate Install CD, and if you put in your drive, it should be ued automatically.
[05:49] <fysa> does someone have a link to the daily-live torrent?
[05:49] <lartza_> How can I overclock my CPU?
[05:49] <patspam> I have the alternate Install CD
[05:49] <dave11> patspam: updating online is easier
[05:49] <nks_> ripps - - hahaha- yes it has to ! i'm going to try to find it - there's was one under 7.10, but i forgot the name,,,
[05:49] <XceII> in ur bios
[05:49] <patspam> it's not being used automatically
[05:49] <juano__> is there a way to just not write my password every time i want to change an administrative task with my current user_
[05:49] <patspam> any way to force it manually?
[05:50] <juano__> (a fast way)
[05:50] <pawbie> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ <- torrents
[05:50] <amirman84> what package do i need to get to add more compiz fusion effects?
[05:50] <kindofabuzz> sigh i guess i'm gonna have to drag this box closer to the router so i can use ethernet just to get wireless working in 8.04
[05:50] <tricaric> Hi all. I've completed an update to 8.04. Now I'm trying to do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but I get the following error:
[05:50] <pawbie> amirman84: compiz-fusion.org
[05:50] <dave11> patspam: the servers are overloaded, wait a day or so
[05:50] <XceII> compiz config settings mngr
[05:50] <patspam> the doc says run "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" but that doesn't work
[05:50] <Kurtis-> kindofabuzz: What broadcom chip are you running?
[05:50] <tricaric> wait...
[05:50] <Pokit> I installed compiz fusion and now I cant get window borders from downloaded GTK2 themes to work right. any way to fix?
[05:50] <kindofabuzz> Kurtis-: bc4318
[05:50] <pipegeek> failed because nvidia-glx-new conflicted with xserver-xorg-core
[05:50] <pipegeek> interesting
[05:50] <pawbie> Pokit: Make sure decorators plugin is on?
[05:50] <Kurtis-> ah, not the one I have
[05:51] <nhaines> patspam: yes, run gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[05:51] <pipegeek> welp, I've taken nvidia-glx-new off the blacklist, and I'll pick up the pieces when I'm done.
[05:51] <Gnodab1> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu, and need help blacklisting my onboard sound drivers
[05:51] <harriseldon> blueeyesmike it looks like it may be somewhere in the script. can you run the script manually in a shell with sudo? if that doesn't work, try exiting your gui session and doing it from a terminal session ctrl-alt-f1 and see if that works. from looking at my script it does a lot of checking for active x sessions
[05:51] <Pokit> pawbie, "window decoration" is enabled in compiz config
[05:51] <patspam> nhaines: sorry mate as I've said a couple of times, /cdrom/cdromupgrade doesn't exist
[05:51] <pipegeek> Gnodab1: can I be of assistance?
[05:51] <Gnodab1> sure
[05:51] <Gnodab1> :)
[05:51] <pipegeek> Looks like I'm going to be up for a while anyway ;)
[05:51] <johd> Anyone have problems with ububtu 8.04 and hibernate
[05:51] <cob> Gnodab1: the blacklist is in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:52] <nhaines> patspam: Find out where you CD is.  It might be in /media/cdrom
[05:52] <jeffimperial> Flannel, harriseldon, nhaines, i found that the right syntax was sudo mount debianetch.iso /media/isoimage/ -t iso9660 -o loop thanks for your help
[05:52] <pipegeek> Gnodab1: indeed it is
[05:52] <AdrianStrays> I installed envy to fix hardy's issues with my graphics card, now movies don't display. Can anyone help me?
[05:52] <Kurtis-> Anyone know how to get Broadcom bcm4311 rev 2 working in kernel 2.6.24? http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#supported says it needs patches for this kernel
[05:52] <Kurtis-> I'm not sure what sort of patches
[05:53] <blueeyesmike> harriseldon just tried that with and without sudo and neither does anything, It just returns to prompt
[05:53] <zero88> Ok. Is there a way I can record music that is being played through a web browser somehow?
[05:53] <Pokit> in compiz fusion when i apply a custom GTK2 theme, my window borders still look like "clearlooks" except only the hue changes
[05:53] <pawbie> zero88: Audacity
[05:53] <LainIwakura> cob: Thanks: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64308/
[05:53] <johd> zero audacity
[05:53] <MrObvious> !ndiswrapper
[05:53] <MeatGrinder> So why use alternate CD instead of just doing internet upgrade?
[05:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:53] <patspam> nhaines: it's in /media/cdrom0, but again /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade doesn't exist
[05:53] <zero88> pawbie, what does that do exactly?
[05:53] <loufoque> Pokit: window borders are independent from the gtk theme
[05:53] <Kurtis-> I've tried ndiswrapper
[05:53] <pawbie> zero88: records from the mixer.
[05:53] <MrObvious> Did someone forget to package ndiswrapper utils with Hardy?
[05:53] <Pokit> loufoque, is it possible to use GTK2 themes with compiz fusion?
[05:53] <Kurtis-> no, it's there
[05:53] <rich_freecomm> Anyone here have Konversation?
[05:53] <Kurtis-> in repositories, at least
[05:53] <nhaines> MeatGrinder: because the alternate CD can be downloaded via BitTorrent and the official repositories are really, really being hammered right now.
[05:53] <Flannel> MeatGrinder: you download as a torrent, instead of from the mirrors (which are especially slow right now)
[05:54] <loufoque> Pokit: sure
[05:54] <nhaines> patspam: Are you sure you're using the alternate install CD and not the desktop CD?
[05:54] <MrObvious> I'm trying to make my BCM94311 work and need ndiswrapper since the b43 drivers won't install here.
[05:54] <pawbie> nhaines: All of the CDs are available by torrent.
[05:54] <Kurtis-> MrObvious same chip as I
[05:54] <patspam> nhaines: bugger i think i have the desktop cd
[05:54] <nhaines> pawbie: He was only talking about the alternate install CD.
[05:54] <dave11> rich_freecomm: #kubuntu
[05:54] <Kurtis-> tried ndiswrapper myself, and it didn't work
[05:54] <nhaines> patspam: A common mistake.  I run into it myself occasionally.
[05:54] <patspam> nhaines: download wasted? or possible to still use?
[05:54] <MeatGrinder> i hate torrents, so damn slow and the seeding part I don't like so much. Aren't torrents just for transmitting viruses and trojans?
[05:54] <Kurtis-> Of course, is there any way to disable the native drivers?
[05:54] <loufoque> Pokit: System > Preferences > Apparence
[05:55] <Kurtis-> Torrents aren't slow
[05:55] <zero88> pawbie, i see thanks
[05:55] <Utalcn2me> Pokit, go into your settings  manager to change your window borders
[05:55] <Toran> OK, I was in the middle of updating with update-manager and I had to cancel it (it was in the "downloading packages" stage). What should I do to continue the upgrade?
[05:55] <Starnestommy> MeatGrinder: they're also for sharing large files
[05:55] <AdrianStrays> I used Envy to install a ATI Driver, and now videos in Totem, VLC, etc don't display.  Can anyone help me?
[05:55] <harriseldon> blueeyesmike did you check for bugs about this? It seems like some check is failing in the script
[05:55] <IcemanV9> patspam: dl alternative cd torrent then. it's fast. you can use desktop for later.
[05:55] <pawbie> MeatGrinder: If you're serious, I'm going to headdesk.
[05:55] <osmosis> what is 'enable watching' do for tracker ?
[05:55] <Starnestommy> AdrianStrays: you probablt messed up more things by using envy
[05:55] <nhaines> patspam: Lend it to friends!  :D
[05:55] <loufoque> Kurtis-: they are if you can't upload because of a router, like 80% of the people
[05:55] <Starnestommy> *probably
[05:55] <harriseldon> AdrianStrays did you use envy or envyng
[05:55] <nhaines> patspam: But yeah, unfortunately you can't upgrade with the Desktop CD.
[05:55] <Pokit> loufoque, I guess i just dont understand how it works. when I download a GTK2 theme from the web, and drag it into the theme window and apply the theme, it doesnt "really" change.  the theme stays as clearlooks but the hue of the window border changes..
[05:55] <MeatGrinder> any recommendations for a torrent client? I have getright and it supposedly works with torrents but never tried it
[05:55] <Kurtis-> loufoque: That's why you enable port forwarding
[05:55] <pawbie> loufoque: A router defeats you from uploading.....?  :\
[05:55] <AdrianStrays> harriseldon, envy
[05:55] <schnootop> hello i am trying to upgrade distro but when it is trying to get the new channels it keeps on stoppin and having to retry and fetch it because its failing to connect to all the en_AU i18n files
[05:56] <harriseldon> Adrian
[05:56] <pawbie> kurtis- ftw
[05:56] <patspam> nhaines: bugger, ok, thanks for the help anyway!
[05:56] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Try adding -> Option "XVideo" "enable" <- to the "Extensions section of your xorg.conf
[05:56] <MeatGrinder> pawbie, ???
[05:56] <Toran> I was in the middle of upgrading to hardy with update-manager and I had to cancel it (it was in the "downloading packages" stage). What should I do to continue the upgrade?
[05:56] <AdrianStrays> stamestommy, yep. Last time I listen help from people on the forums....
[05:56] <harriseldon> AdrianStrays please goto http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html envyng should be use with hardy
[05:56] <jlund> Any idea how to get Nvidia driver to work? It says it is installed by not active in the Hardware manager.
[05:56] <blueeyesmike> i've been looking just now best I could find was this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/188194 but when I do that log I don't get any button press events from gnome-power-manager like this guy did
[05:57] <pawbie> AdrianStrays: Envy is one of those great things that...  when it works, it works great.  When it fails, it epic fails.  Sounds like you just have a slight fail at the moment, though.
[05:57] <pipegeek> Okay, I'm confused by this.  The upgrade is failing because it would have to remove nvidia-glx-new, but xserver-xorg-core conflicts with nvidia-glx-new
[05:57] <MeatGrinder> !torrent
[05:57] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[05:57] <KyleK> 1413 users? thats the number on my luggage!
[05:57] <ripps> THIS CHANNEL IS GETTING TOO FULL, IF YOUR HAVING PROBLEMS WITH COMPIZ, PLEASE GOTO #compiz-fusion
[05:57] <nhaines> patspam: My pleasure.  Torrents are a way to download from many people who are downloading a file.  It is popular for large files because it means that bandwidth is shared between downloaders.  Consider leaving your BitTorrent client running afterwards, to help out others who still need Ubuntu!
[05:58] <harriseldon> pipegeek did you have envy installed? If so, did you follow the directions to completely remove it?
[05:58] <schnootop> anyone have any idea why that might be ?
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> Will the channel explode if too many people are in it?
[05:58] <^V^> Hi, the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 didn't work correctly for me. The boot menu didn't get updated and when I tried booting into the old kernel version I obviously had issues with modules..(nvidia)
[05:58] <pawbie> Irreducibilis:  Yes.
[05:58] <AdrianStrays> harriseldon, oh wait, I miss read what you wrote.  I did use EnvyNG.
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> Perhaps if 6666 people join
[05:58] <MeatGrinder> any recommendations for a windows torrent client? I have getright and it supposedly works with torrents but never tried it
[05:58] <^V^> The menu.lst file appears to be correct though
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> MeatGrinder: uTorrent
[05:58] <LainIwakura> MeatGrinder: uTorrent
[05:58] <pawbie> MeatGrinder: Microtorrent or 'utorrent'
[05:58] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I am a little scared to touch the xorg.conf.  Last time I did that I made things a lot worse...
[05:58] <pawbie> utorrent ftw
[05:58] <MeatGrinder> ty
[05:58] <Irreducibilis> :D
[05:58] <nhaines> MeatGrinder: I've always been fond of uTorrent.
[05:58] <^V^> How do I update the boot menu now?
[05:58] <CyberCod> Irreducibilis: doubtful, but with too many people it is hard for anyone to get helped because the stuff scrolls by so darn fast
[05:58] <Kurtis-> Though BitTorrent 6 is just the same as uTorrent now
[05:58] <KyleK> yea utorrent is <3
[05:59] <Kurtis-> just rebranded
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> CyberCod: Ah...
[05:59] <generic> hi all
[05:59] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: another vote for utorrent :)
[05:59] <harriseldon> AdrianStrays make sure to do a backup of xorg.conf you can always restore it
[05:59] <generic> any one works on gosa
[05:59] <pawbie> unanamous?
[05:59] <Kurtis-> I use uTorrent myself in Windows
[05:59] <ripps> AdrianStrays: holdon while I find an aticonfig command to help you
[05:59] <pawbie> However you spell that....
[05:59] <generic> am getting lots of schema errors?
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> uTorrent appears to be the most pwnage client
[05:59] <generic> any idea
[05:59] <MeatGrinder> ok sounds good, once i get utorrent installed how do I find hardy
[05:59] <KyleK> omg
[05:59] <Kurtis-> you go to the download page
[05:59] <loufoque> Pokit: clearlooks isn't a gtk engine
[05:59] <LainIwakura> MeatGrinder: ubuntu.com
[05:59] <KyleK> Kurtis-: i thought you were kidding!
[05:59] <Irreducibilis> Wow, scroll much?
[05:59] <MeatGrinder> ok thanks
[05:59] <KyleK> thats funny
[05:59] <patspam> nhaines: for sure. sadly we don't get much in the way of upload bandwidth here in AUS but I try to seed until it gets too painful
[05:59] <McHearty> Anyone else not able to get anything working for their sources list in the new stable release?
[05:59] <EruditeHermit> hi, can anyone help me with setting the DPI of Firefox in hardy? It won't change the DPI when I try to change layout.css.dpi in firefox
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: well it is
[06:00] <nhaines> MeatGrinder: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent for the Alternate Install CD.
[06:00] <Kurtis-> Kidding about BitTorrent 6?
[06:00] <nhaines> patspam: Every little bit helps.
[06:00] <MeatGrinder> nhaines, thanks
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: but there are multiple clearlooks: a gtk engine, window borders, etc.
[06:00] <pawbie> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:00] <IcemanV9> McHearty: it is being slammed by many ppl today
[06:00] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Try  sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv
[06:00] <CyberCod> woot!  about to burn the ISO!
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: a gtk engine is just the controls
[06:00] <pipegeek> harriseldon, no i did not have envy installed.
[06:00]  * McHearty frowns
[06:00] <maap_rj> Hi Ubunters, I am using 7.10, but when a start compiz, my windows have no borders. Here is the output of my terminal after execute compiz  => http://pastebin.org/31859
[06:00] <jim_beam> how do you enable 64bit in ubuntu
[06:00] <loufoque> Pokit: if you want to change the window borders, that's separate
[06:00] <Mickey> anyone else having trouble with this update? the update manager stalls
[06:00] <McHearty> I can't get anything from any server
[06:00] <pawbie> jim_beam: Use a 64bit kernel.
[06:00] <morphy> still fighting hard to get to make USB install for 8.04.. any more suggestions ?
[06:01] <KyleK> maap_rj: shoulda started earlier or waited for hardy
[06:01] <McHearty> I even tried spain servers
[06:01] <KyleK> weeee release day
[06:01] <pawbie> I haven't even managed to boot 8.04 yet....  :(
[06:01] <loufoque> jim_beam: you must install from a 64 bit CD
[06:01] <IcemanV9> McHearty: try Canadian
[06:01] <loufoque> jim_beam: yes, that sucks.
[06:01] <crdlb> maap_rj: please join #compiz-fusion
[06:01] <crdlb> that's very easy to fix
[06:01] <^V^> pawbie: what is the problem?
[06:01] <jim_beam> the standard linux kernel has a flag for 64bit support is that the same w=(with sym processing)
[06:01] <pawbie> v: Grub boot error 21....
[06:01] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I entered it in, it backed up the original and said that videooverlay and open gloverlay don't affect running session.  Should I restart?
[06:02] <pawbie> I think the installer is counting my hardware RAID as 2 separate disks.
[06:02] <morphy> it really sux.. I want to install 8.04 and I dont have a cdrom to boot from :/
[06:02] <Mickey> it starts the install, stops, and says it can't access the servers
[06:02] <ripps> AdrianStrays: yes
[06:02] <pawbie> morphy: Install it with wubi?
[06:02] <bbyever> hi
[06:02] <loufoque> morphy: order one
[06:02] <AdrianStrays> ripps, brb
[06:02] <McHearty> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[06:02] <maap_rj> Kylek, thanks for your replay, but I really do not undestando why to try earlier??
[06:02] <McHearty> woot?
[06:02] <nhaines> Mickey: The servers are being hammered today.
[06:02] <fysa> There are no daily-live mirrors.
[06:02] <maap_rj> crd, thancks
[06:02] <morphy> I have an iso and I am trying to use that to make a USB bootable and am failing big time
[06:02] <Kurtis-> I imagine because everyone's asking about 8.04 now
[06:02] <loufoque> McHearty: lots of people are upgrading to hardy at the moment, hence the issues.
[06:02] <morphy> :/
[06:02] <bbyever> i get an I/O error message when trying to upgrade from a cd
[06:03] <pawbie> nhaines: I'm actually celebrating the issues.
[06:03] <amirman84> does anyone have a link to a page that explains all the different boot options for an ubuntu/windows dual installation?
[06:03] <McHearty> I should have just sat on the alpha build -_-
[06:03] <MeatGrinder> can someone give me checksum for the alternate
[06:03] <McHearty> woot for shitty broadcom
[06:03] <loufoque> morphy: booting from an usb stick is fairly difficult
[06:03]  * McHearty scowls
[06:03] <jtmonz> bbyever: same here... i switched servers
[06:03] <pawbie> I can't remember the last time a modern server got literally pounded out of operation for a Linux distro.
[06:03] <Mickey> ok, thanks, i'll keep trying :)
[06:03] <morphy> i386 apternative: 166991d61e7c79a452b604f0d25d07f9
[06:03] <pawbie> amirman84: man grub
[06:03] <MeatGrinder> morphy, thx
[06:03] <dulkemith> nirwana girl
[06:03] <nhaines> pawbie: Oh, it's happened every 6 months for about the last 2 years, at least.  :)
[06:03] <morphy> loufoque, not until the 7.04.. it could be achieved in a jiffy..
[06:04] <McHearty> Oh, and I love how the ubuntu help page still refers to pidgin as gaim
[06:04] <McHearty> That's gotta be good for the newbies
[06:04] <doolz> amirman84, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[06:04] <morphy> its just this version that I am facing this problem :(
[06:04] <pawbie> nhaines: I don't remember it being this bad for the last 2 releases.
[06:04] <Toran> I was in the middle of upgrading to hardy with update-manager and I had to cancel it (it was in the "downloading packages" stage). What should I do to continue the upgrade?
[06:04] <bbyever> jtmonz: so i should download again?
[06:04] <KyleK> maap_rj: everyones messing with 8.04 today
[06:04] <pawbie> Toran: restart the update manager
[06:04] <devin_> last two releases weren't LTS
[06:04] <nhaines> pawbie: It was pretty close.  A day or two and it'll clear back up again.  It takes a week or so before it really gets better.
[06:04] <amirman84> pawbie: i'm specifically looking for alternatives to using just grub
[06:04] <pawbie> devin_: Zactly.  Nor did they feature wubi and the new AD thingie.
[06:05] <jtmonz> bbyever: i would just switch servers... it was easy to do in synaptic
[06:05] <Sciri> McHearty: Which page? On the Web site? I can poke someone about it.
[06:05] <gogeta> amirman84 floppy disk supergrub cd
[06:05] <McHearty> Hang on I'll link you
[06:05] <MeatGrinder> oh joy, i have 5.4k download on the alternate torrent...only 27 more hours to go!
[06:05] <therealnanotube> pawbie: ehrm... the slashdot effect happens every day. :)  though probably it's mostly bandwidth saturation rather than server pounding per se.
[06:05] <McHearty> Sciri: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communitysupport
[06:05] <pawbie> amirman84:  Why?
[06:05] <Schypher_> air/join #wpa_supplicant
[06:05] <Toran> pawbie: it doesn't recognize that there is a new version of ubuntu out, now. It just has a huge list of packages to upgrade as if I weren't doing a dist upgrade
[06:05] <XceII> only 27?
[06:05] <Sciri> McHearty: ta, I'll poke newz tomorrow morning.
[06:05] <maccam94> is it possible to do a "clean" install of ubuntu without formatting? (leaving /home the way it is, and no i don't want to go into making a separate home)
[06:05] <bbyever> what do you mean just switch servers...
[06:06] <pawbie> maccam94: Ya.  Make a new partition, cp -r /home to the new partition, and mount the new partition as your /home during install.
[06:06] <gogeta> maccam94 yep if you have a /home partation
[06:06] <therealnanotube> maccam94: back up /home to external drive, make clean install, move /home back.
[06:06] <gogeta> maccam94 just format /
[06:06] <AdrianStrays> ripps, still doesn't work....
[06:06] <Kurtis-> amirman84: Which are you trying to dual-boot?
[06:06] <nhaines> maccam94: Not without making a seperate /home partition.
[06:06] <KyleK> maccam94: boot the live cd and delete everything thats not /home, and then partition manually
[06:06] <amirman84> pawbie, gogeta: i wonder if i can use the windows bootloader to point to grub on my linux partition instead of having to overwrite the mbr with grub
[06:06] <Kurtis-> XP or Vista?
[06:06] <KyleK> maccam94: then dont click format
[06:06] <McHearty> ta-ta
[06:06] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it'll speed up soon
[06:06] <gogeta> amirman84 kinda
[06:06] <jtmonz> .mx == mexico? just use another north american server... go in to synaptic or adept manager and change the default server from there
[06:06] <pawbie> amirman84: Have a look at how Wubi uses grub4dos to do that.
[06:06] <Kurtis-> amirman84: You can, but it requires some third party tools
[06:06] <amirman84> kurtis: xp media center
[06:06] <Fishscene> Windows bootloaders only recognize Windows OS's
[06:06] <ripps> AdrianStrays: can you post your xorg.conf?
[06:06] <MeatGrinder> IcemanV9, ok thanks
[06:06] <Kurtis-> Debian has an article how to use ntldr with bootpart
[06:07] <fysa> if you have an old version..  you can try to use rsync to update it based on differences.
[06:07] <cob> Fishscene: not true...I've booted linux from Windows' bootloader
[06:07] <jim_beam> is there a keep connection alive program
[06:07] <cob> due to a corporate requirement
[06:07] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I forgot the command to display it.
[06:07] <jtmonz> yeah, it's called wubi
[06:07] <Kurtis-> amirman84: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm
[06:07] <Fishscene> cob, seriously? Do you have an article I could follow?
[06:07] <rkvirani> hey all
[06:07] <gogeta> thers a way to boot it one ext3 to
[06:07] <nhaines> hey, rkvirani.
[06:07] <rkvirani> just downloaded the latest and installed it
[06:07] <jtmonz> Fishscene: install it with wubi
[06:07] <gogeta> using windows boot
[06:07] <LainIwakura> Can someone help me with my Internet connection? I can't get it to work, but it worked in Gutsy. I have a broadcom 4311 and the wiki page isn't helpful.
[06:07] <pipegeek> Ah.  Was using mirrors.kernel.org, which is a week behind.
[06:07] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it usually starts slowly, then speed up quickly
[06:07] <rkvirani> downloaded the nvidia driver and the shadow for compiz is PINK!
[06:07] <Fishscene> jtmonz, that's cheating :|
[06:07] <gogeta> been a long time sence i tryed
[06:07] <jtmonz> (i think it's the last option when you boot the cd)
[06:08] <rkvirani> any ideas?
[06:08] <KyleK> rkvirani: we're not a forum, we dont really need introductions ;)
[06:08] <bbyever> jtmonz: but how would that make a difference? i checked de md5sum and it was correct...
[06:08] <harriseldon> amirman84 you can change the boot.ini to boot into grub -- I have done it before with lilo many eons ago
[06:08] <amirman84> what are the config files for wubi's bootloader called?
[06:08] <devin_> minus the fact that 8.04 server released also don't help speed things up any
[06:08] <pawbie> Lots of bcm43xx issues tonight.
[06:08] <cob> Fishscene: would be happy to google it up but currently waiting on ff to download java jre and with the apt repos all tied up with 8.04 install activity it's ttaking forever
[06:08] <rkvirani> KyleK: pardon me?
[06:08] <KyleK> rkvirani: what'd you break?
[06:08] <harriseldon> amirman84 I will search online and let you know
[06:08] <cob> pawbie: 8.04 release fudged broadcom up worse than beta
[06:08] <jtmonz> Fishscene: ohh, you want a separate partition
[06:08] <rkvirani> rkvirani: nothing...
[06:08] <KyleK> ah
[06:08] <amirman84> harriseldon: that's what i'm wanting to do, i think.
[06:08] <LainIwakura> I'm having trouble with broadcom yes
[06:08] <maccam94> KyleK: have you personally done it? as i remember in 7.10 it wouldn't let you proceed without formatting /
[06:08] <ripps> AdrianStays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:08] <rkvirani> just installed the NVIDIA driver.
[06:08] <crdlb> rkvirani: that's a well-known nvidia driver bug:/
[06:08] <MeatGrinder> IcemanV9, does it matter which client I use? I'm using getright right now.
[06:08] <Fishscene> cob, no problem. I have to go now anyway, but I'll see if I can look into it anyway. Thanks for the heads up though. I hate giving out false info.
[06:08] <jtmonz> bbyever: i couldn't get my 8.04 cd to mount for some reason... so i just swithced servers... do whatever you feel like though
[06:08] <pawbie> cob: Ya?  Crap.  I have a friend that's downloading 8.04 in hopes of getting his bcm43xx up and running.
[06:08] <rkvirani> crdlb: what can be done?
[06:08] <LainIwakura> cob, did you get my pastebin?
[06:08] <Maxdamantus> I'm installing 8.04 onto a virtual machine in VMWare, using XFS as the root partition. The installer stopped at 94% (it warned me GRUB has problems with XFS), so I closed it, installed GRUB myself (from the `grub` prompt), and was able to boot to the GRUB command line. However, the installer hadn't got to making my grub.conf yet. Could someone pastebin theirs for me (I'll figure out what to edit)
[06:08] <AdrianStrays> ripps, no I know paste bin, I forgot how to bring xorg.conf up
[06:08] <james_> hi
[06:09] <rkvirani> it worked fine prior to 8.04 release
[06:09] <crdlb> rkvirani: you could turn off the shadows entirely I guess
[06:09] <KyleK> maccam94: thats odd, well you could debootstrap maybe
[06:09] <IcemanV9> MeatGrinder: it shouldn't matter
[06:09] <rkvirani> crdlb: alright
[06:09] <rkvirani> thanks
[06:09] <cob> Lainlwakura: no can you paste url again please?
[06:09] <LainIwakura> cob: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64308/
[06:09] <LainIwakura> Thanks
[06:09] <derenrich> I'm having a problem where compiz fails to load properly (but direct rendering is enabled)  and I have to fall back on metacity. Anyone else noticing this problem?
[06:09] <cob> ok Lain  be a min...still waiting on this plugin install
[06:09] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know whether the Envy works in Ubuntu 8.04
[06:09] <ripps> AdrianStarys: From terminal -> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <LainIwakura> cob: Okay, thanks.
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich: XGL/AIGLX available?
[06:10] <LoLeN> does sb have a torrent link for ubuntu x386 desktop edition (DVD) ?
[06:10] <ceil420> why does Hardy include emacs? vim is clearly superior...
[06:10] <crdlb> derenrich: what video card?
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich:  run "compiz --replace" from terminal and see if you get errors.
[06:10] <LoLeN> i cant get into the ubuntu website
[06:10] <derenrich> nvidia
[06:10] <harriseldon> amirman84 http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html It looks like a pretty good guide, but make sure to have backups of boot.ini and an xp disk handy to repair master boot record if you make a mistake
[06:10] <therealnanotube> how's multi-monitor support on hardy? nice and easy to set up, or still requires fiddling a lot with xorg.conf?
[06:10] <pawbie> LoLeN: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:10] <derenrich> pawbie: I get warnigns
[06:10]  * BACphist rocks
[06:10] <drivetrax> apt-get is not getting
[06:10] <bbyever> jtmonz: its just mine does mount, but when i select any option from the menu it gives me the error
[06:10] <AdrianStrays> !pastebin
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[06:10] <james_> I just upgraded to 8.04 and want to install my video capture cards
[06:10] <pawbie> derenrich: ....do they say anything useful?
[06:10] <amirman84> mattycoze: from what i've heard you need a specific version of envy called envyNG for 8.04
[06:10] <jim_beam> can u upgrade from 7.1 to hardy with dvd
[06:10] <drivetrax> there we go
[06:10] <jtmonz> bbyever: probably a bad burn then
[06:10] <BACphist> :P
[06:10] <derenrich> pawbie: not useful to me, things like "/usr/bin/compiz.real (core) - Warn: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32"
[06:10] <Geoffrey2> now, can I upgrade to Heron with a burned CD as the source?
[06:10] <mattycoze> amirman84 is that in Synaptic?
[06:11] <amirman84> harriseldon: thank you very much
[06:11] <AdrianStrays> ripps, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64309/
[06:11] <pawbie> derenrich:  That's useful.  You have no GLXFBConfig for depth 32.  Go add it.
[06:11] <ceil420> and why isn't an upgrade for libconfuse included? ><
[06:11]  * BACphist thinks that Hardy is gonna steal the 75% percent of market share windows has after there 25% drop
[06:11] <bbyever> jtmonz: ok, ill try burning again
[06:11] <ceil420> i better be able to update that on my own after this...
[06:11] <sigma_1234> is it dangerous to install gutsy packages in hardy?
[06:11] <pawbie> BACphist: Wishful thinking. :\
[06:11] <bbyever> jtmonz: thanks
[06:11] <BACphist> NAY!!!!
[06:11] <LoLeN> isnt there the dvd version?
[06:11] <crdlb> derenrich: please join #compiz-fusion to be factoided
[06:11] <BACphist> Well, maybe some will be mac
[06:12] <pawbie> BACphist: I'd just be happy when Apple dies completely.
[06:12] <meeper> BACphist: would you really want hardy to have 75%?
[06:12] <meeper> pawbie++
[06:12] <schnootop> anyone having any problems with upgrading and localisation files ? It seems to be choking on trying to fetch en_AU files ?
[06:12] <BACphist> But, windoze sales dropped 25 %
[06:12] <harriseldon> sigma_1234 depends on the package, but it is generally not a good idea
[06:12] <drivetrax> crdlb:  You know this!
[06:12] <meeper> pawbie: Apple is evil and scales me much more than Windows
[06:12] <jtmonz> bbyever: no problem
[06:12] <BACphist> They lost 25% market over too mac linux berkely unix etc
[06:12] <amirman84> mattycoze: i downloaded it off of their website but it didn't work for me but that was because i was using the older version of wubi for 8.04 that never finished the install. have you tried allowing backports and proposed packages in software sources?
[06:12] <pawbie> meeper: Agree.  Google is getting there.....
[06:12] <jtmonz> BACphist: i read 11%
[06:12] <jtmonz> earnings were 11% short, right?
[06:12] <nickrud> !windows
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[06:12] <ceil420> BACphist, i think people are just sticking with XP and not buying Vista
[06:13] <BACphist> Yea,
[06:13] <mattycoze> amirman84 no i haven't
[06:13] <AdrianStrays> ripps, any luck?
[06:13] <BACphist> Never thought the day would come where i'd agree with that statement lol
[06:13] <ceil420> i know a lot of people that are holding out til Windows 7; if that fails as much as Vista apparently has, many will make the switch to alternative OSes
[06:13] <pawbie> ceil420: To quote the balmers....  "They're missing out on a lot of VALUE!"
[06:13] <Kurtis-> I don't see MS losing a good deal of marketshare anytime soon.
[06:13] <bcgrown> I am using the nvidia-glx-new driver with a Geforce fx 5500 and on my tv-out it only shows the top left corner of my screen (1024x768,  tv is supposed to be at 640x480).  how do i show the whole screen on my TV?  I have overscan set to zero
[06:13] <ceil420> pawbie, riiight :p
[06:13] <mattycoze> amirman84 what's the software repository i have to add in synaptic?
[06:13] <mgmz> any ubuntu program where i can input infrared from TV remote control and convert them to sound (*.mp3, *.wav, *.avi...etc)?
[06:13] <pawbie> ceil420: Seriously...  he says that....  weird dude.
[06:13] <KyleK> vistas not that bad, its the same amount of hassle with ubuntu
[06:14] <eugenebythesea> =0
[06:14] <Kurtis-> Vista doesn't suck, though. Not sure why everyone hates it so much, really.
[06:14] <schnootop> anyone have any idea ?
[06:14] <sigma_1234> i want to install apache mysql and php and postgresql and really dont want to re download them. also i use a gutsy version of quasar accounting. will that run in hardy?
[06:14] <jtmonz> bcgrown: i believe there is a program called nvidia-settings that should be installed already... try using that
[06:14] <pawbie> Kurtis-: I <3 Vista and Debian.
[06:14] <ceil420> pawbie, Ballmer's gotta be one of the most psychotic large-company CEOs of all time
[06:14] <pawbie> Ubuntu is pissering me off...  :\
[06:14] <nickrud> !offtopic | KyleK pawalls ceil420
[06:14] <ubotu> KyleK pawalls ceil420: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:14] <Kurtis-> I'm using Vista right now.
[06:14] <bittin> ;-(
[06:14] <bcgrown> jtmonz: i've been there, there's nothing to adjust that makes it work
[06:14] <j_humphrey> Does anyone know how to force the ipw3945 driver to be used in hardy?
[06:14] <talcite> hey nickrud, are there any issues with resizing the /boot partition I should be aware of?
[06:14] <mattycoze> amirman84 or is it already in the list
[06:14] <ceil420> Kurtis-, my computer would choke on Vista. also, it's ugly. and that's the last of MS that i'll talk about, lest someone kicks me <_<
[06:14] <BACphist> Kurtis:  Vista is gay, like tetris, and you. Be a real man download a UNNIX like solaris or BSD
[06:14] <talcite> Hardy complains my boot partition is too small
[06:14] <BACphist> Sissys.
[06:14] <jtmonz> bcgrown: hmm, sorry... ati here :(
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite get rid of it, just keep your kernels in the /boot on the root partition ;)
[06:15] <pawbie> bacphist: Server 2008 core ftw.
[06:15] <Radiobuzz> Hi all, I'm having a problem: I've upgraded to Hardy and apparently everything went well, the problem was that I answered "no" when the installation asked me if it should update grub list automaticly... Now I have the same old list with Ubuntu 7.10 and kernel 2.6.22-14. When I run "update-grub" I think it sees the new kernel (which I assume is 2.6.24-16) and says "updating list... done" but in reality it doesn't modify the list. Could anyone help me?
[06:15] <talcite> nickrud: oh =S. Err how should I do that?
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite but resizing issues? None that I can think of :)
[06:15] <bullgard4> mc shows an entry prefixed with an exclamation mark (!). I found that this means a "stale symlink". What is a 'stale symlink'?
[06:15] <mattycoze> amirman84 (i'm currently trying to download it from the software backports from synaptic; just letting it refresh the list; which is taking an unbelievably long time; perhaps becausethe server is being nuked atm)
[06:15] <unop> j_humphrey, if 'sudo modprobe -v ipw3945' loads the module and your device works find and you are happy, add ipw3945 to your /etc/modules list and reboot
[06:15] <Kurtis-> Psh, anyone who results to insulting obviously doesn't know any actual reasons to dislike it other than it's trendy.
[06:15] <amirman84> mattycoze: i would STRONGLY recommend going into SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > SOFTWARE SOURCES and enabling "proprietary drivers for devices (restricted)" , "software restricted by copyright and legal issues (multiverse)" under the Ubuntu software tab
[06:15] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: After you update, I believe you still have to install again.
[06:15] <schnootop> by looking in http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/restricted/i18n/ only en files there are is en_GB is it possible to change it over to this and just use GB locale files ?
[06:15] <nickrud> talcite you could unmount boot , then run sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-$(uname -r) grub
[06:15] <ceil420> bah i still have qt crap installed ><
[06:15] <unop> s/find/fine/
[06:15] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64310/ and replace xorg.conf -> "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf/"
[06:15] <talcite> nickrud: ahh ok good. would I need to reboot onto a liveCD? or is unmounting the partition good enough?
[06:15] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: I'm probably wrong, though.  wait for a second opinion.
[06:16] <Kurtis-> At least I can get wireless drivers to work in Vista.
[06:16] <jeffimperia1> Newbie help here again, pls.. Just mounted the alternate ISO for hardy.. now, which do i execute? the cdromupgrade md5?
[06:16] <insub> Hi all
[06:16] <talcite> oh...
[06:16] <MrObvious> How come my wireless only connects at a 2Mbps using WPA and being right next to the router?
[06:16] <Radiobuzz> pawbie, you mean to reinstall Hardy?
[06:16] <bittin> hi
[06:16] <CyberCod> is there some reason why the Wubi installer keeps trying to download a new ISO even though I'm running it off an 8.04 disk?
[06:16] <mattycoze> amirman84 why so strongly recommended?
[06:16] <mattycoze> most people do anyway amirman84
[06:16] <talcite> nickrud: for resizing I mean. I think I'll move to /boot next clean install
[06:16] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: NO!@#  Hah..   Reinstall grub.
[06:16] <amirman84> mattycoze: also allow third party software and proposed and backports under the updates tab
[06:16] <insub> Is there an office torrent for the new ubutnu release ?
[06:16] <j_humphrey> unop, i tried modprobe ipw3945, but it says module does not exist
[06:16] <pawbie> insub: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:16] <insub> offical**
[06:16] <KyleK> MrObvious: literally next to? if so thats the problem
[06:16] <nickrud> talcite no reason you couldn't resize it
[06:16] <ceil420> no update for e16 either :x
[06:16] <talcite> nickrud: great. Thanks
[06:16] <insub> thanks pawbie
[06:16] <unop> j_humphrey, you probably need to get the source for it and install it
[06:16] <Radiobuzz> pawbie, oh, LOL, ok thanks. I'll still wait to see if anyone has another idea though :)
[06:17] <j_humphrey> unop, will i have to recompile the kernel?
[06:17] <pawbie> radiobuzz: Ya ;)
[06:17] <insub> trying to download it from a server was dreadful lol
[06:17] <pawbie> MrObvious: Wiki "omnidirectional antenna"
[06:17] <unop> j_humphrey, not if you compile the driver as a module -- then you just modprobe it
[06:17] <^V^> My menu.lst is updated but the boot menu isn't using it, how do I update it?
[06:17] <j_humphrey> unop, how do i compile it as a module?
[06:17] <AdrianStrays> ripps, done
[06:17] <Shadow_X> how do i upgrade from the alternate cd?
[06:17] <amirman84> mattycoze: because i've spent weeks trying to get my wireless and graphics card to be supported in ubuntu, going through all the hassle of combing the forums and messing with code i had no idea about in the terminal when i didn't need to, when i allowed those software sources the drivers came in automatically and installed painlessly only requiring one reboot
[06:18] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Now reboot
[06:18] <mattycoze> amirman84: oh
[06:18] <AdrianStrays> ripps, brb
[06:18] <unop> j_humphrey, the source for the driver will have instructions -- the procedure for each driver can be different
[06:18] <node357> the installer I have says it's pre-release.. did I grab the wrong ISO ?
[06:18] <j_humphrey> thanks unop
[06:18] <nickrud> ^V^ grub should use that new menu.lst automatically, unless you aren't editing the right one? You have more than one linux install on the system?
[06:18] <cob> omg ok, everyone off the apt repos for a minute...I need to finish this jre install
[06:18] <FastZ> ^V^: did you reboot?
[06:18] <tawt> what's the difference between desktop and server versions?
[06:18] <pawbie> ^v^: grub-install
[06:18] <pawbie> tawt: The installer....
[06:19] <Kurtis-> How would I blacklist the b43 driver from loading for my Broadcom chip? I want to use ndiswrapper
[06:19] <talcite> tawt: the server versions don't have X11 by default
[06:19] <Y-Town> Do the Europe and German mirrors to download 8.04 have english version or are they in other languages by default?
[06:19] <samliu> server doesnt install a gui by default
[06:19] <^V^> nickrud: That's the state that my upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 left the system in
[06:19] <cob> Kurtis-: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:19] <FastZ> tawt: pawbie: the kernel
[06:19] <unop> tawt, the server versions don't have GUI environments, and come with the LAMP packages by default
[06:19] <Kurtis-> well, yeah, I know about that
[06:19] <talcite> tawt: If you aren't clear on the differences, I'd say desktop is the one you want =D
[06:19] <Kurtis-> but would I just list "b43"?
[06:19] <mattycoze> amirman84 are you in aus? the sudo apt-get update process lags heaps on au.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:19] <Sciri> tawt: Desktop has a GUI for home/office/notebook users. Server has no GUI for, well, servers like Web and database. ;)
[06:19] <tawt> lol  yeah.  just curious
[06:19] <Kurtis-> cob: would I just type b43 in there?
[06:19] <nickrud> ^V^ put your menu.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org just for fun
[06:19] <FastZ> unop: Ubuntu server comes with LAMP packages by default now?
[06:19] <pawbie> fastz: Ya?  I figured server precompiles were the same as desktop kernels.
[06:19] <jeffimperia1> Just mounted the alternate ISO for hardy.. now, which do i execute? the cdromupgrade md5?
[06:19] <talcite> ahh. server edition's pretty fun. I threw it onto an old machine to play around with
[06:19] <samliu> Kurtis, what kind of card do you have
[06:20] <talcite> its interesting
[06:20] <unop> FastZ, yep
[06:20] <cob> Kurtis-: whatever is loaded up, check lsmod, I would say be sure b43-legacy or anything else with b43 in the name is blacklisted
[06:20] <amirman84> mattycoze: no i'm in the US
[06:20] <Kurtis-> bcm4311 rev 2
[06:20] <KyleK> Kurtis-: blacklisting or the other one?
[06:20] <mattycoze> oh ok
[06:20] <KyleK> cos the syntax in /blacklist is blacklist b43
[06:20] <gogeta> unop: ubuntu has roaches lol lots of bugs
[06:20] <mattycoze> amirman84 reckon it'll be right if i change the server?
[06:20] <drivetrax> Gutsy Ubuntu SE..satanic edition..lol
[06:20] <bcgrown> (10:13:37 PM) bcgrown: I am using the nvidia-glx-new driver with a Geforce fx 5500 and on my tv-out it only shows the top left corner of my screen (1024x768,  tv is supposed to be at 640x480).  how do i show the whole screen on my TV?
[06:20] <gogeta> :P
[06:20] <iusegnulinux> hi all, just booted into 8.04 :)
[06:20]  * nickrud gets tired of telling people not to modify blacklist, but create a new one to edit
[06:20] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- I have a bcm4311 too. Should I blacklist b43 and use ndiswrapper?
[06:20] <FastZ> pawbie: nah, the server kernel has is hardened a little and has some other stuff... i'm not 100% up to speed on the differences, but i know there are some slight inequalities between the two versions
[06:20] <unop> gogeta, i can't say i am surprised :) it's well, expected
[06:20] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: I have no idea
[06:20] <samliu> yeah blacklist b43
[06:21] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[06:21] <samliu> you have ndiswrapper set up?
[06:21] <Cpudan80> I've got a wierd problem
[06:21] <Radiobuzz> I'll try to add it manually to the list, we'll meet again if something goes wrong. Thanks pawbie!
[06:21] <amirman84> you shouldn't need to use terminal commands at all. just allow those sources and update through the GUI
[06:21] <Kurtis-> I don't even see b43 listed in here
[06:21] <ceil420> iusegnulinux, i have "About 16 hours 6 minutes remaining" to install Hardy <_<
[06:21] <Y-Town> Do the Europe and German mirrors to download 8.04 have english version or are they in other languages by default?
[06:21] <Cpudan80> So I just upgraded to hardy --- but now the number pad (on the keyboard) wont work
[06:21] <talcite> uhh... sorry why is everyone here saying blacklist b43?
[06:21] <LainIwakura> not sure how to blacklist it or setup ndiswrapper
[06:21] <samliu> no you have to add it
[06:21] <FastZ> unop: when did LAMP become standard package install?  with 7.10 it wasnt default I dont think...or was it?  i did a dist-upgrade for that version
[06:21] <pawbie> Radiobuzz: grub-install shouldn't be damaging if you want to try it.  G'luck.
[06:21] <cob> Kurtis-: ssb?
[06:21] <ceil420> (finally got dist-upgrade to work)
[06:21] <nickrud> Y-Town the cd's are all the same
[06:21] <pawbie> pft, AMP?  Like anyone uses that....
[06:21] <Cpudan80> It's a laptop connected to a docking cradle...
[06:21] <drivetrax> num-lock on?
[06:21] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64311/
[06:21] <talcite> as of the 2 6 24 kernel, b43 should be the one to use. Ndiswrapper is pretty terrible. bcm43xx is even worse
[06:21] <Y-Town> nickkewl, the mirrors are faster  :o)
[06:21] <ceil420> FastZ, when did emacs become a standard package install? i don't even want the program ;x
[06:22] <cob> Lainlwakura: not sure you want to go that route yet...unless you really want to
[06:22] <Kurtis-> cob: yes, ssb
[06:22] <LainIwakura> talcite: How can I get b43 to work?
[06:22] <KyleK> i wish b43 worked for me :)
[06:22] <^V^> nickrud: it looks okay but it just isn't being used
[06:22] <Schypher_> any expert on ndiswrapper?
[06:22] <nickrud> ^V^ and what do you see when you boot?
[06:22] <talcite> LainIwakura: what kernel version are you running? uname-r
[06:22] <talcite> uname -r*
[06:22] <samliu> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[06:22] <^V^> the old menu with 7.10
[06:22] <samliu> add the line *blacklist b43*
[06:22] <samliu> save and close
[06:22] <Cpudan80> Nevermind
[06:22] <FastZ> ceil420: huh? who said anything about emacs?
[06:22] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i used to use ndiswrapper for 7.10, and am now on 8.04 - should i use b43 then?
[06:22] <Cpudan80> Google is my friend :-)
[06:22] <samliu> use ndiswrapper
[06:22] <nhaines> talcite: Use a wired connection System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[06:22] <AdrianStrays> ripps, well I have video now, but it blinks in and out and has lines all over the place
[06:22] <nhaines> talcite: But remove ndiswrapper first.
[06:22] <nickrud> ^V^ show me the contents of /etc/fstab
[06:23] <samliu> if ndiswrapper worked before, I wouldn't stop using it
[06:23] <amirman84> How do i mute the PC speaker beeps on Ubuntu?
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: depends on your card. Ndiswrapper is good if you happen to be using the MN-720
[06:23] <pawbie> amirman84: Take the pcspeaker out.
[06:23] <nickrud> ^V^ and the output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:23] <ceil420> FastZ, i looked through the list of modified/installed programs that i'm getting with my dist-upgrade to Hardy. "Install emacs22" was among the changes
[06:23] <Kurtis-> ndiswrapper hasn't worked for me, but ssb has been running
[06:23] <samliu> thats what happened to my card when I upgraded from feisty to gutsy
[06:23] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Do you have Compiz enabled?
[06:23] <unop> FastZ, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[06:23] <user11> !VMWARE
[06:23] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: lspci -v. Tell us what chipset your wireless card is using
[06:23] <amirman84> pawbie: there's got to be a better way
[06:23] <AdrianStrays> ripps, yes.
[06:23] <jeffimperia1> i tried running the cdromupgrade md5 using terminal. the terminal comes up then disappears instantly.. what to do?
[06:23] <ceil420> FastZ, if you're asking why i mention it to you, it's because you also mentioned a new package in the install
[06:23] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see. i'm on a bcm43-something card. not sure how to see the info on it?
[06:23] <LoLeN> when i reboot the pc i have to always type "modprobe ndiswrapper && depmod -a" to get my wireless to work, why is that??
[06:23] <gogeta> nickrud lol i cant even keep up
[06:23] <pawbie> amirman84: Probably, but I'm an efficiency guy myself...
[06:23] <talcite> eugenebythesea: lspci -v
[06:24] <LainIwakura> talcite: 2.6.24.-16-generic
[06:24] <nickrud> gogeta I don't try, I track a couple people at a time :)
[06:24] <unop> FastZ, i think it was fiesty when it was introducted, i can't be sure
[06:24] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64312/
[06:24] <morphy> brb.. checking the new install guide I found if it works
[06:24] <ripps> AndrianStrays: It's my experience that Compiz pushes your hardware too much, try disabling it.
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: that's using the new wireless stack. You should be using b43 if possible
[06:24] <eugenebythesea> talcite: here it is - BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n
[06:24] <FastZ> ceil420: oh, i couldnt tell ya why some packages are installed by default.  unop said something about the server version being a LAMP server installation by default.
[06:24] <mattycoze> amirman84 i get this from planet mirror; Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. (plus a whole load of "failed to fetch")
[06:24] <pawbie> LoLeN:  Check your restricted modules and see if it's set to load.
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: what chipset is your wireless using?
[06:24] <samliu> hmm compiz only pushes your computer too much if you have a crappy gfx card...
[06:24] <talcite> LainIwakura: lspci -v
[06:24] <Shadow_X> anyone have problems upgrading today?
[06:24] <pawbie> samliu: And a pentium 133...
[06:24] <Shadow_X> other than the server being slow
[06:24] <samliu> lol
[06:24] <samliu> good point
[06:25] <talcite> eugenebythesea: oh... its one of those blasted draft-n cards...
[06:25] <LoLeN> pawbie: how do i check them?
[06:25] <Kurtis-> I just tried blacklisting ssb and b43. I'll try ndiswrapper by itself now
[06:25] <LainIwakura> talcite: Okay. Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> I downloaded the ISO for Hardy Heron and burned it to a CD...now, can that be used to upgrade Ubuntu Gutsy, or can I only do a full install with that...
[06:25] <unop> LoLeN, perhaps ndiswrapper isn't being loaded at boot .. make sure you have an entry for it in /etc/modules
[06:25] <talcite> eugenebythesea: let me look it up.
[06:25] <samliu> I have a quadro fx1400go :D
[06:25] <LoLeN> k ;)
[06:25] <pawbie> LoLeN: System -> Administration -> Restricted Modules (I think)
[06:25] <FastZ> unop: maybe it was...i'm not sure.  I havent done a fresh install on my server machine since dapper and it's been a LAMP server ever since.
[06:25] <nickrud> ^V^ did you get the question about showing me the output of   sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:25] <pawbie> I haven't used Ubuntu in a year...
[06:25] <gogeta> pawbie did you say p133
[06:25] <amirman84> mattycoze: i've gotten a similar thing before, i just ignored it like it was no big deal
[06:25] <eugenebythesea> talcite: it usually worked well previously in 7.10. i haven't tried it yet in 8.04
[06:25] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I never had this problem before.  Before I updated to Hardy, video works, graphics worked, no lines or anything.  I have trouble believing this is a hardware issue.  Furthermore, prior to using envy, compiz and videos worked fine.
[06:25] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i was, but it was because i had broken packages installed (in my case, a few language packs). i removed the offending packages, and i'm upgrading now :)
[06:25] <bullgard4> mc shows an entry prefixed with an exclamation mark (!). I found that this means a "stale symlink". What is a 'stale symlink'?
[06:25] <pawbie> gogeta: Ya!  I still have one.
[06:25] <Shadow_X> ceil420, nice, you goin from 7.10?
[06:25] <AdrianStrays> ripps, is there anyway I can just get rid of envy, and have Ubuntu install the driver it was originally using?
[06:25] <^V^> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64314/
[06:25] <amirman84> mattycoze: keep in mind i'm a total noob but my system is running extremely stable so far
[06:25] <gogeta> pawbie oh cant run ubuntu on that well if it has 64mb of ram i guess better with puppy or dsl
[06:25] <nickrud> bullgard4 a broken one? try looking at it with ls --color , if it's red it's broken
[06:26] <pawbie> gogeta: debian
[06:26] <LainIwakura> talcite: My ifconfig, iwconfig, lshw -C network, lspci, and lsmod are here, if that helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4785960#post4785960
[06:26] <gogeta> pawbie yea but it will be slow
[06:26] <ceil420> Shadow_X, yeah. solely because i wanna update libconfuse so i can install awesome wm (i can't install the lib from source for some reason)
[06:26] <jeffimperia1> newbie finally got it... woohoo!
[06:26] <hellmitre> heya kids
[06:26] <tannewt> hi all, how do I add a script to run oon suspend and resume?
[06:26] <pawbie> gogeta: Not really.  Debian + AMP + VNC + XFCE4...  happy.
[06:26] <unop> FastZ, looks like even dapper had it - http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-lamp-server-installation-with-screenshots.html
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> I haven't tried this yet, but those of you that had Broadcom working in Gutsy and now broke in Hardy, and don't have access to a ethernet cable, try this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64313/  found in forums, may try it tomorrow
[06:26] <hellmitre> wondering how to run network manager
[06:26] <ceil420> when i get a new computer, i'm putting Debian Stable on this one and making it a server, anyway. but in the meantime, i'm still using Xubuntu
[06:26] <ripps> AndrianStrays: Use the envyng to remove your drivers and revert them to the radeon drivers
[06:26] <Shadow_X> ceil420, heh i'm upgrading for several reasons. but of course, they always say its the best version ever. then again, any developer says that :P
[06:27] <FastZ> unop: if i remember correctly, you had the option at initial installation to install the LAMP server...or a regular server
[06:27] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: Well other people are saying that b43 should be used
[06:27] <nick_> hello
[06:27] <harriseldon> hellmitre: nm-applet
[06:27] <ceil420> Shadow_X, lol, gotta try and get their product out there :p
[06:27] <hellmitre> that's the applet, yeah, but whenever I run that, I get nothing
[06:27] <Kurtis-> oh, lovely
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: you can't get the b43 if you don't have internet access
[06:27] <FastZ> unop: regular server being one without the AMP part of the LAMP install
[06:27] <nick_> Ubutu 7,1 is cooll
[06:27] <hellmitre> nothing goes into the panel
[06:27] <talcite> eugenebythesea: your card isn't supported by b43 yet. I'd say stick with ndiswrapper for awhile longer until they release support. Keep looking every few months though. Ndiswrapper is a sub-optimal solution
[06:27] <unop> FastZ, well, if you install and use tasksell , you have the option on any ubuntu/debian machine :)
[06:27] <KyleK> ceil420: im running ubuntu on my server :) but its just personal server
[06:27] <nick_> where can i start learning more about ubunut
[06:27] <james_>  anyone here got a kworld atsc 110?
[06:27] <Kurtis-> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: Permission denied
[06:27] <nick_> i just got it
[06:27] <nickrud> ^V^ my suspicion is that the there's a difference between the contents of /boot on the root partition, and the contents of the /boot partition. Try looking at menu.lst with /boot mounted, and without
[06:27] <unop> FastZ, s/tasksell/tasksel/
[06:27] <Shadow_X> ceil420, yea. and i LOVE the way they are selling this one "all OS's come with things you'll never use. ubuntu 8.04 comes with an uninstall feature" LOL
[06:27] <allyunion> I have a weird problem with my Toshiba U200 laptop, if I mute the sound in Windows, reboot and enter into Ubuntu, the sound doesn't work (even though I have everything set max for all controls)
[06:27] <Johnny_> hi i am having a problem and need some help
[06:28] <ceil420> FastZ, a LAMP server is more or less 'regular'. i don't know why it'd be without the 'A' part, seeing as Apache rocks (and is probably the most ubiquitous server software out there)
[06:28] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see. well its not critical, cos i have no wifi at the moment so.. i'll do that =)
[06:28] <Kurtis-> got that when I issued modprobe ndiswrapper && depmod -a
[06:28] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I hit uninstall ATI driver in the EnvyNG gui, but how do I reinstall the original raedon drivers?
[06:28] <Kurtis-> as root
[06:28] <Johnny_> can someone please help me
[06:28] <samliu> allyunion, you need audio drivers
[06:28] <eugenebythesea> talcite: thanks for confirming for me =)
[06:28] <ceil420> lol Shadow_X; that's awesome XD
[06:28] <harriseldon> hellmitre do you get console output? can you check if the process is already running?
[06:28] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: I have b43 working already. It comes with the disc.
[06:28] <pawbie> ceil420: tomcat!
[06:28] <talcite> eugenebythesea: no problem
[06:28] <LainIwakura> not working, but I mean it's installed
[06:28] <mikebot> Why is it that when I tried to install from the alterate CD, it seems like the upgrader is still fetching files from this internet?
[06:28] <allyunion> samliu: I have snd-hda-intel installed
[06:28] <hellmitre> it does nothing. absolutely blank console when I run it in terminal, harriseldon
[06:28] <samliu> hmm
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well i sure wish you'd write a guide, i'm sure thousands would aprreciate it
[06:28] <ceil420> KyleK, mine's personal as well; file server, web site host (perhaps two sites in the future), IRC bot, mebbe a coupla other things
[06:28] <Kurtis-> well, got no error that time, but it's still not working
[06:29] <talcite> LainIwakura: your chipset is supported by b43. Not b43-legacy. b43
[06:29] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: -_- ill give your method a try
[06:29] <pawbie> ceil420: squid is a must.
[06:29] <FastZ> ceil420: nowadays sure, but before, you had to install all the components of a LAMP server on your own, then came the LAMP server installer option...
[06:29] <allyunion> samliu: And when I do have the audio set to max in Windows, and reboot, the audio works fine in Ubuntu
[06:29] <ceil420> pawbie, squid?
[06:29] <harriseldon> nick_ http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ has some screecasts which may help
[06:29] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work
[06:29] <Johnny_> what do i do
[06:29] <pawbie> ceil420: squid proxy.  Check it out.
[06:29] <Shadow_X> w00t i'm upgrading!!!
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well how did you get your's working?
[06:29] <cob> Lainlwakura: looks like ndiswrapper is loaded in kernel, did you upgrade to hardy or fresh install?
[06:29] <Shadow_X> im nervous though. last time i upgraded my server....it failed to boot again >.>
[06:29] <talcite> LainIwakura, eugenebythesea: http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43
[06:29] <Johnny_> some1 help me
[06:29] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: no it's not
[06:29] <eugenebythesea> talcite: cheers
[06:29] <bullgard4> nickrud: Yes, it shows the pathname and filename red with a black background.
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> oh thought you said it was
[06:29] <ceil420> FastZ, i still don't have MySQL or PHP installed :x i need to find a use for a database so i can learn MySQL. Of course, the 'P' in LAMP for me means Perl ;)
[06:29] <Shadow_X> Johnny_, whats up?
[06:29] <ripps> AdrianStrays: just a sec
[06:29] <pawbie> Shadow_X: If everything went right the first time, it wouldn't be near as interesting.
[06:29] <james_> Shadow_X, too bad you can't remove somethings
[06:29] <talcite> granted, the updates on that site will be a few months newer than the ones in the repo
[06:29] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:29] <nickrud> bullgard4 so for mc, stale link means broken link
[06:30] <LainIwakura> talcite: am i not using b43?
[06:30] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: Were you the one also using bcm4311?
[06:30] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- yes
[06:30] <pawbie> ceil420: Insert, select, drop, delete, optimize.  You know sql now.
[06:30] <bullgard4> nickrud: Thank you very much for explaining.
[06:30] <Kurtis-> I'm using revision 2
[06:30] <harriseldon> hellmitre what about output from nm-tool?
[06:30] <ceil420> pawbie, i'll hopefully remember that after i upgrade; while upgrading i only wanna run xchat and conky (so no terminal or firefox)
[06:30] <allyunion> pawbie: LOL
[06:30] <mikebot> How do I use the alternate CD?
[06:30] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-radeon
[06:30] <ceil420> pawbie, lol
[06:30] <jim_beam> does anyone know if i deed to re-install ati drivers after 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade
[06:30] <Kurtis-> that says that it needs a patch for kernel 2.6.24
[06:30] <Kurtis-> what sort of a patch?
[06:30] <amirman84> is there any way to transfer my wubi install to a real one?
[06:30] <nickrud> bullgard4 haven't used mc for a while, nice piece of software, no?
[06:30] <Shadow_X> i think my server issue was from lack of knowledge of linux. im sure i couldve fixed it had I tried
[06:30] <pawbie> amirman84: dd
[06:30] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:30] <amirman84> pawbie: dd?
[06:31] <hellmitre> harriseldon: says I'm connected via eth0 (wired)
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> they shouldn't have relesedhardy until wireless worked for all.  especially if it worked in gutsy and now it doesn't
[06:31] <pawbie> amirman84: man dd
[06:31] <cob> Johnny_: how long did you wait?
[06:31] <amirman84> oh ok
[06:31] <AdrianStrays> ripps, it was unable to lock the admin directory
[06:31] <mattycoze> amirman84 aha! success, it installed nicely
[06:31] <mattycoze> amirman84 and happens to be working
[06:31] <Johnny_> cob awhile
[06:31] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: 2 words.  Screw Broadcom
[06:31] <Johnny_> over 10 mins
[06:31] <nickrud> jim_beam 8.04 has the latest driver from ati already, no need to install the one from the website
[06:31] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i just set up my apache server a long time ago with some basic options and never touched it again :p it just starts up with my computer
[06:31] <Kurtis-> Still can't get my chip to work
[06:31] <Shadow_X> jim_beam, i would think not. although im not sure. i expect the upgrade tool would handle packages with no problem. however, if you have problems with X afterwards, I would advise you to reinstall them then
[06:31] <AdrianStrays> ripps, nevermind
[06:31] <amirman84> mattycoze: awesome, i'm glad you were saved of the headaches i went through
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> pawbie: well i like Linksys
[06:31] <LainIwakura> talcite: I have b43-fwcutter installed already
[06:31] <talcite> LainIwakura: I thought you said you were using ndiswrapper?
[06:31] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: Screw linksys, too.  Atheros ftw.
[06:31] <jim_beam> thanks
[06:31] <LainIwakura> talcite: no i wasn't
[06:31] <talcite> LainIwakura: and have you loaded fw onto the card?
[06:32] <AdrianStrays> ripps, okay I did that.  Restart?
[06:32] <bullgard4> nickrud: I like mc very much. Particularly for its clear arrangement and small footprint.
[06:32] <LainIwakura> talcite: How do I do that?
[06:32] <adil> kk
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> pawbie: never heard of Atheros
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[06:32] <Johnny_> can some1 help me please
[06:32] <nickrud> bullgard4 yes, and it's great for looking inside deb packages when your gui is broken ;)
[06:32] <Shadow_X> ceil420, yea, i was running ubuntu for the server. its an apache and file server. i tried upgrading, and it failed to boot so idk. im nervous about this upgrade :P
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: the nice thing about wireless is that its more or less the same across the distros
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <pawbie> kindofabuzz: Google ubiquiti wireless.  Best cards ever.
[06:32] <Kurtis-> talcite: know what it means about the patch needed for 2.6.24?
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:32] <FloodBot2> Johnny_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <talcite> LainIwakura: you can probably take that info as-is
[06:32] <samliu> usually when I upgrade I completely remove my lamp and reinstall it
[06:33] <talcite> LainIwakura: let me look into it
[06:33] <Johnny_> srry
[06:33] <samliu> cause its not really a hassle
[06:33] <Johnny_> can some1 please help m
[06:33] <Johnny_> e
[06:33] <AdrianStrays> ripps, restart?
[06:33] <harriseldon> hellmitre then at least network manager itself is working, just not the applet
[06:33] <LainIwakura> talcite: I'm a little confused but I will give that link a try.. thanks
[06:33] <nickrud> Johnny_ no one is sure, have you run the disk check on the startup menu
[06:33] <XceII> try a reburn Johnny_
[06:33] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: Which revision are you using of that chipset?
[06:33] <bullgard4> nickrud: May God give that my GUI does not break.
[06:33] <amirman84> pawbie: i kind of frigured i would be copying files over but which folders do i need and which folders should i totally NOT copy?
[06:33] <ceil420> Shadow_X, i'm kinda nervous because i haven't backed anything up; i'm hoping i won't have any problems :x
[06:33] <LainIwakura> kurtis- rev 1
[06:33] <Johnny_> nick i cant nothing works
[06:33] <cupajoe> Oh my, well I hope to be heard above all this noise XD. Hi I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu
[06:33] <samliu> Johnny_ try using the alt disk
[06:33] <Kurtis-> damn
[06:33] <Johnny_> when i hit enter
[06:33] <ceil420> wish i had a nice external HDD to back stuff up on :x
[06:33] <samliu> I think I remember something similar
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i tried to follow that site but when i run make, i get alot of errors, and my hardy is not onliine to get the packages required to fix those errors, someone needs to make a deb of that page
[06:33] <Pradalvr> Hello ! i need some help here ..i need to partition my hard drive and don't know how
[06:33] <nickrud> Johnny_ reboot, and run the diskcheck
[06:33] <Johnny_> what is the alt disk
[06:33] <pawbie> amirman84: Ah, no, just use dd.  Boot the wubi install, prepare a partition on a physical disk, then dd if=wubipartition of=mynewpartition and walk away for a while.
[06:33] <Shadow_X> lol im already having problems. the upgrader complains about unsupported packages and stops >.>
[06:33] <mikebot> Is #ubuntu-offtopic a channel for ONLY off-topic discussion, or it allows off-topic discussion?
[06:34] <samliu> alternative version
[06:34] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: are you also using bcmxxxx?
[06:34] <ripps> AndrianStays: Always
[06:34] <samliu> uh
[06:34] <samliu> h/o
[06:34] <Shadow_X> they need more repository servers :P
[06:34] <^V^> nickrud: there isa  difference. It shows the old menu.lst
[06:34] <hellmitre> ah!
[06:34] <talcite> LainIwakura: sorry, what did you mean by kernel patches? you shouldn't need to install any others
[06:34] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: well i'm on gutsy now
[06:34] <hellmitre> fixed it, harriseldon
[06:34] <hellmitre> thanks!
[06:34] <pawbie> amirman84: you could also using something like g4u or whatever the other Ghost4Linux package is.  Or you could even use ghost.
[06:34] <nickrud> ^V^ it? you mean, the /boot partition?
[06:34] <^V^> yes
[06:34] <bcgrown> anybody know how I can make my geforce fx 5500 show the entire screen on tv-out instead of just the top left corner?  I am using nvidia-glx-new drivers and twinview
[06:34] <Kurtis-> talcite: I was the one who mentioned kernel patches
[06:34] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:34] <LainIwakura> talcite: i don't recall mentioning that... ?
[06:34] <^V^> nickrud: the boot partition has not been updated
[06:34] <Pradalvr> I have two separate hard drives..one for windows and the other for Ubuntu
[06:34] <amirman84> pawbie: i'm really confused
[06:34] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the alternate cd?
[06:34] <seamus7> Pradalvr when you install Ubuntu it offers to set up your partitions ... you could also use GParted from the Live CD (I think it's on there)
[06:34] <ricree> can anyone help me with a keyboard problem?  My num lock no longer seems to work after the upgrade
[06:35] <Kurtis-> talcite: "# bcm4311 rev 2 / bcm4312 (needs patches for 2.6.24) "
[06:35] <supersako> is it still better to use envy or is the ubuntu restricted drivers better now??
[06:35] <talcite> kindofabuzz: you probably have unsatisfied dependencies.
[06:35] <wayne_> woooo I love Hardy!!!!
[06:35] <jim_beam> is there a link for64bit kernel
[06:35] <supersako> i love Hardy more!
[06:35] <Johnny_> I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:35] <pawbie> amirman84: Hm.  You have a wubi install, and want to put it on a physical disk, yes?
[06:35] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i know i do, it's a fresh install of Hardy
[06:35] <nick_> Can anyone sugeest a good media player for ubuntu for all my music and that
[06:35] <ricree> although the keyboard light turns on when I do hit the numlock key
[06:35] <DShepherd> supersako, no need for envy
[06:35] <ceil420> Shadow_X, that sounds about like what i had. check the /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log (i think that's the one) and see which packages are failing. i only had four files in that folder (and one of them was blank), so it won't take too long to go through them all :p
[06:35] <gogeta> supersako envy = bad
[06:35] <Shadow_X> nick you can try songbird
[06:35] <amirman84> pawbie: the wubi install i'm using resides in the partition that i want to copy it to
[06:35] <supersako> cool
[06:35] <pawbie> Johnny_: Try hitting space, or click, or tab.  Or download and burn again.
[06:35] <PFC_Tabasco> supersako: I got nvidia_glx_new to work without a lot of trouble, but sadly it wasn't nearly as easy as 7.10
[06:35] <seamus7> nick_ Amarok
[06:35] <kindofabuzz> talcite: but i can't satisfy those dependancies cause not online
[06:35] <eugenebythesea> hi - for hardy, should i use ndiswrapper version 1.9? i want to know if that is the latest one
[06:35] <wayne_> while 1 { me.truelove(Hardy); }
[06:35] <ricree> nick_: I prefer rhythmbox, others like amarok
[06:35] <amirman84> pawbie: yeah, that's it
[06:35] <Johnny_> i burned twice
[06:35] <pawbie> amirman84: Oh.  Good luck.  You can dd to a network location and then restore from there?
[06:35] <supersako> Tabasco what do u have to do?
[06:35] <nickrud> ^V^ ok,  Me, I'd mount it at /mnt and simply copy over all the stuff in boot on the root to the /boot partition
[06:35] <nick_> how do i get amarok
[06:36] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, does ndiswrapper not have a website to tell you the latest version?
[06:36] <LainIwakura> same.. i can't get online to apt-get
[06:36] <Pradalvr> seamus7 I'm there and don't know how to use it
[06:36] <gogeta> Johnny_: md5 iso make shure its not bad
[06:36] <pawbie> nick_: apt-get install amarok ?
[06:36] <ricree> nick_: synaptic or apt-get
[06:36] <supersako> amirman hehe i knew an amir from los angeles that was born in 84 :p
[06:36] <Baxtor> Hey guys, ive just received an IDE HDD from a friend (crappy 20gig one) so i can load some stuff on there for him, how does one change the owner of the drive so i can delete the items currently on there and reformat it into a diffrent file system using ubuntu?
[06:36] <pawbie> nick_: Try exaile
[06:36] <ceil420> nick_, ewwww KDE. but yeah, apt-get works
 i don't know
[06:36] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: did you try that method i posted?
[06:36] <Johnny_> what is md5 iso
[06:36] <nick_> so whats the best
[06:36] <pawbie> Baxtor: Just reformat it.  No need to do the other steps.
[06:36] <amirman84> pawbie: so is dd or ghost basically creating an image of my disk?
[06:36] <nick_> haha
[06:36] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, google is your friend :)
[06:36] <gogeta> Baxtor just format it
[06:36] <nickrud> !md5sum | Johnny_
[06:36] <ubotu> Johnny_: To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[06:36] <mikebot> Can someone help me with te alternate CD?
[06:36] <cupajoe> Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?
[06:36] <nickrud> !who | Johnny_
[06:36] <ubotu> Johnny_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[06:36] <Kurtis-> I prefer KDE myself and am actually using Kubuntu, but my problem isn't Kubuntu-specific.
[06:36] <PFC_Tabasco> supersako: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment your restricted repos, apt-get update and then go the the Hardware Drivers option in System->Administration
[06:36] <Shadow_X> Baxtor, i believe using GParted would solve those issues
[06:36] <Baxtor> can you just use Gparted?
[06:36] <seamus7> Pradalvr: are you dual booting with Windows or installing Ubuntu on a maching by itself?
[06:36] <pawbie> amirman84: Ya.  The trick with the wubi bit, though, is that you need to boot wubi to "see" your wubi install.
[06:36] <amirman84> supersako: i was born in 84 but in Iran
[06:36] <gogeta> Baxtor yep
 hm. i could find out about that - but what i really want to know - if .. is that version suitable for hardy?
[06:36] <Baxtor> cheers
[06:37] <talcite> kindofabuzz: I see. I doubt we'll get a .deb for it soon though. I don't think there's anything you can do in the mean time
[06:37] <Johnny_> thanx for the afvice
[06:37] <ceil420> eugenebythesea, hmm. try apt-cache showpkg ndiswrapper <=- i think that's the command to show you Ubuntu's current version of the package
[06:37] <Johnny_> srry i am new to irc
 cool =) thanks for that
[06:37] <ceil420> np
[06:37] <Johnny_> pawbie: i am not sure what ti di
[06:37] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: i'm not sure how to configure ndiswrapper though. i had no problem with fwcutter in gutsy
[06:37] <dystopianray> what version of fglrx does hardy have?
[06:37] <kindofabuzz> talcite: i think i tried to make a deb from gutsy but i don't think it worked
[06:37] <talcite> Kurtis-: I'm not sure which patch its referring to. We're on a pretty recent version of 2.6.24. Have you tried b43 with the firmware?
[06:38] <gogeta> dystopianray i dunno ask google :P
[06:38] <nickrud> Johnny_ no problem If I may, I'd suggest you use   xchat   for irc, works better out of the box than pidgin does
[06:38] <Baxtor> ahh... unmount the drive so you can re-format it.. silly baxtor *duh*
[06:38] <Kurtis-> I downloaded the b43-fwcutter package
[06:38] <amirman84> pawbie: when i was looking at where wubi is installed from windows i noticed that there are quite a few ISO's it seems like i should be able to install ubuntu brand new on the partition and restore my system from those ISOs... is that possible?
[06:38] <Kurtis-> and that didn't work
[06:38] <Kurtis-> I'll try compiling it myself, I guess
[06:38] <talcite> eugenebythesea: Ndiswrapper's latest version is 1.52 as of a few weeks ago
[06:38] <cupajoe> ﻿I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu
[06:38] <harriseldon> cupajoe what have you tried so far? What is your sound hardware?
[06:38] <backharlow> anyone know how to fix system after Heron dist upgrade dies in the middle?
[06:38] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: try http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64313/ then rebott, i can't try it yet because i haven't upgraded yet
[06:38] <mikebot> Or is there a help page for the alternate CD?
[06:38] <pawbie> amirman84: I don't know.  Try it and let me know if it works.
[06:38] <Johnny_> i am on a mac and am using colloquy
[06:38] <ezzieyguywuf> Do i need to install xgl-xserver in order for compiz to work?
[06:38] <samliu> actually Johnny_, chatzilla for firefox is good for beginners also
[06:38] <talcite> eugenebythesea: I don't know if its in the repos yet.
[06:38] <samliu> :)
[06:38] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[06:38] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: ok let me try that
[06:38] <cupajoe> Umm, it's an integrated sound card into the laptop
[06:38] <eugenebythesea> talcite: i see.. thanks!
[06:39] <Johnny_> ok this is to everyone: I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do
[06:39] <cupajoe> To tell you the truth I don't remember the hardware off the top of my head, hold on
[06:39] <harriseldon> cupajoe are you installing hardy?
[06:39] <Johnny_> ok this is to everyone: I am trying to install ubuntu and am able to boot up the installation DVD and when it asks for the language I hit enter on english and it works but now whenever i hit enter on install or try or anything else it doesnt work what do i do PLEASE JUST HELP
[06:39] <cupajoe> Harriseldon: yes sir
[06:39] <samliu> Johnny_ you have to stop flooding
[06:39] <samliu> we know your problem
[06:39] <samliu> I'm looking for the link to the alt disk
[06:39] <pawbie> Johnny_: Do you have friends you can talk to in person?
[06:39] <samliu> this is really weird cause its not on the list haha
[06:39] <pawbie> samliu: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[06:39] <Johnny_> not about this
[06:39] <samliu> ah yeah
[06:39] <nickrud> Johnny_ when you say you hit enter, you mean you can't even boot up and run the disk check?
[06:39] <mikebot> samliu: Can you answer questions regarding the alt cd?
[06:39] <samliu> thats it
[06:39] <Johnny_> no one knows comps
[06:39] <amirman84> pawbie: good call, i think i'm just going to try it out, if i lose this system that would suck but unless they get that LMVP tow ork with 8.04 i don't have many good options
[06:39] <samliu> johnny_, click that, download it etc
[06:39] <nick_> why doe ubuntu work better than windwos
[06:40] <Johnny_> nick rud: yes
[06:40] <cupajoe> It's a realtek ALC262 I believe
[06:40] <Johnny_> nickrud: i cannot get anything to run
[06:40] <RoAkSoAx> how to reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:40] <drivetrax> learning here.. how to have synaptic get my file
[06:40] <samliu> no its just that I remember having a similar problem and using the alt disk solved it
[06:40] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I did what you said, and videos work now.  However, the resolution is screwed up and compiz was off.  Restarted compiz and was prompt to install ATI Accelerated Drivers, I'm going to restart now and see if the resolution is better
[06:40] <ezzieyguywuf> do i need to install xgl-xserver in order for compiz to work?
[06:40] <nickrud> Johnny_ you need to be more specific. What is anything?
[06:40] <amirman84> nick_; because it's foundation is an open source code
[06:40] <mlw1> Hey, thanks for everyone who is answering questions I have another:  My monitor runs at 1920x1200, and I'm able to select that, but upon logging out, it defaults back to 1680x1050, and I can't figure out how to change this
[06:40] <gogeta> Johnny sounds like a bad iso chceck the md5
[06:40] <nick_> o ok
[06:40] <Armored_Azrae1> Hey, does anyone know how to get evolution to use kerberos tokens?
[06:40] <Shadow_X> nick_ its in the design of linux itself. its Unix based. so its built securely from the ground up. its a difficult thing to explain unless you have a solid foundation in computer/network security
[06:40] <samliu> if it isn't the bad iso, I think it might have to do with either ram or if its an old computer
[06:40] <^V^> nickrud: thanks
[06:40] <samliu> what kind of system do you have johnny_
[06:40] <nickrud> ^V^ all good?
[06:40] <Johnny_> nickrud: when i hit enter nothing runs at all not even the check
[06:40] <nick_> when i search up amarok in packet manager theres heaps f different aarok packages what one should i install
[06:41] <pawbie> Armored_Azrae1: That would be awesome.  Let me know if you figure it out.
[06:41] <RoAkSoAx> how to reconfigure xserver-xorg??? what parameters should i use in dpkg-reconfigure "parameters" xserver-xorg???
[06:41] <zero> is there any way to get conky embedded to my deskotp like it is in DSL or puppy?
[06:41] <ceil420> drivetrax, run the synaptic program. it's a graphical installer; pretty easy. right click on a package you want and select 'Mark for Installation', then when you're done, click "Apply" at the top
[06:41] <pawbie> nick_: The one that just says "amarok"
[06:41] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[06:41] <Armored_Azrae1> Damn. I tried selecting gssapi, but it doesn't seem to get the picture :P
[06:41] <^V^> nickrud: about to reboot and find out ;) but this is an annoying bug in (k)ubuntu
[06:41] <DShepherd> Johnny_, have you verified the md5sum for the ISO that you downloaded?
[06:41] <pawbie> SecretGirl: Try noacpi ?
[06:41] <talcite> Johnny_: Check the MD5 hash of your CD. It may have been burned incorrectly
[06:41] <drivetrax> thanks
[06:41] <nick_> pawbie cheers
[06:41] <zero> SecretGirl, boot with acpi and apm off
[06:41] <SecretGirl> whats that?
[06:41] <pawbie> SecretGirl: Better yet - google for the make and model of your laptop and see if anyone else has tried it before.
[06:41] <Johnny_> dshepard: i cannot dind the md5 check for the mac
[06:41] <mikebot> samliu: Or any page that talks about the alt cd?
[06:41] <Shadow_X> is there anyway to do a "normal" install of KDE without ubuntu becoming Kubuntu?
[06:41] <ezzieyguywuf> do i need to install xgl in order for compiz to work?
[06:42] <cupajoe> The sound doesn't work on my integrated speakers nor if I plug a pair of headsets in
[06:42] <pawbie> Shadow_X: You can install KDE from synaptic, and then change your session at the login screen.
[06:42] <zero> SecretGirl, i had this problem, just tyep boot acpi=off apm=off and it shoudl work, worked for me
[06:42] <nickrud> Johnny_ wow, it's probably in your terminal.  md5sum /path/to/iso
[06:42] <DShepherd> doesnt mac have md5sum ?
[06:42] <pawbie> Shadow_X: Try xfce4.
[06:42] <nick_> whats the difference between unix and linux
[06:42] <talcite> ezzieyguywuf: compiz should work almost out of the box
[06:42] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: what ubuntu version are you running and what video card?
[06:42] <zero> is there any way to get conky embedded to my deskotp like it is in DSL or puppy?
[06:42] <pawbie> nick_: A few letters.
[06:42] <Koheleth> morning
[06:42] <SecretGirl> zero, how do i do that
[06:42] <DShepherd> nickrud, ok, i thought so too
[06:42] <cupajoe> And I'm sure that my volume is up though I'm not quite sure if everything is configured correctly
[06:42] <kindofabuzz> l
[06:42] <samliu> oh God its hard to read things in this channel xD
[06:42] <ezzieyguywuf> hardy heron and I have a firegl V5200 (lenovo t60p)
[06:42] <nick_> pawbie haha sweet
[06:42] <cupajoe> (well obviously not because then I would hear sound
[06:42] <red_> hi..got a problem with my internet speed. downloading and web browsing is very slow. usually my speed is 20kbps now its 6kpbs sometimes below than that. any help pls...
[06:42] <LainIwakura> kindofabuzz: doesn't seem to work
[06:42] <nickrud> DShepherd I'm just guessing, but really ....
[06:42] <ceil420> zero, conky was designed to be embedded to the desktop. if it's not there when you run it, you're doing it wrong :o
[06:42] <Shadow_X> pawbie,  i know i can install kde. but when i did that a year ago, it "transformed" into kubuntu
[06:42] <DanaG> Heh, mirrors.kernel.org is still giving 560 kilobytes per second.
[06:42] <talcite> LainIwakura: how is the firmware loading coming?
[06:42] <DShepherd> nickrud, yeah.. really....
[06:42] <mlw1> can anyone tell me why my xorg changes don't go through?  I select 1920x1200 as my resolution in nvidia-settings, it works fine, I save it to xorg, that works, then I reboot, and the changes are gone
[06:43] <nick_> wish i could program so i could help make stuff
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> LainIwakura: i was thinking you may have to uncooment the b43xxx also
[06:43] <SecretGirl> zero, where do i type that
[06:43] <Koheleth> anyreason why Konversation takes a while to start in Hardy Heron?
[06:43] <zero> ceil420, its in a window on all my computers
[06:43] <Kurtis-> nick_: Unix isn't open source
[06:43] <Kurtis-> Linux is a clone of it
[06:43] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm getting that 'no composite extension available" error, which in the past was solved with xgl, but i think the other day someone said something about heron not needing it?
[06:43] <samliu> oh right
[06:43] <pawbie> mlw1: When I use the nvidia app, it doesn't actually write over xorg.conf....   Try hitting "Show Preview" and cut and pasting that into a new xorg.conf
[06:43] <zero> SecretGirl, its in the boot options of the CD to type that, hit f5 when you boot into the CD
[06:43] <samliu> mikebot
[06:43] <kindofabuzz> so you'd blacklist the two things but un blacklist bcm43xx
[06:43] <mikebot> samliu: Yes.
[06:43] <samliu> ah
[06:43] <ceil420> Kurtis-, many Unices are open source; OpenSolaris, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, etc
[06:43] <samliu> thats why
[06:43] <samliu> the alt CD doesnt have the live bootup
[06:43] <Kurtis-> Well, yeah
[06:43] <Kurtis-> But THE Unix isn't
[06:44] <mikebot> samliu: I'm sorry?
[06:44] <pawbie> samliu: No GUI.
[06:44] <ceil420> zero, weird :o i've never even seen it have a window of it's own. look at the .conkyrc's they have on the conky home page and see how they have theirs set up
[06:44] <samliu> right
[06:44] <red_> hi..got a problem with my internet speed. downloading and web browsing is very slow. usually my speed is 20kbps now its 6kpbs sometimes below than that. any help pls...
[06:44] <LainIwakura> talcite: no idea how to do it.. i'm really a novice
[06:44] <samliu> so it can install in situations the normal disk may come across issues
[06:44] <samliu> which is a good reason why Johnny_ should try it
[06:44] <talcite> LainIwakura: have you compiled a binary from source before?
[06:44] <samliu> unless people have better suggestions lol
[06:44] <ceil420> Kurtis-, Bell Labs' UNIX(R) isn't, no :p
[06:44] <Johnny_> ok does anyone have any advise
[06:44] <usser> nick_, i'd say different heritage, most unixes go way back whereas linux is a pretty recent thing
[06:44] <pawbie> talcite: What are binary?
[06:44] <Johnny_> that i will know how to do
[06:45] <zero> ceil420, what?
[06:45] <SecretGirl> zero, f5 is for accessibility options, is that the one
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: samliu mentions trying the alt CD.  Did you try that?
[06:45] <ceil420> Kurtis-, and actually, i think their original Unix was open source. they went closed source later on (maybe as late as System V)
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> linux is only 10 years old
[06:45] <mikebot> Can someone hep me with upgrading from the alt CD?
[06:45] <Kurtis-> hmm
[06:45] <LainIwakura> talcite: i know how to type ./configure and make. does that count?
[06:45] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: i'm running hardy heron and I have an ATI V5200 video card
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: binary is the language that the computer naturally understands it is made of 1 and 0s
[06:45] <Seveas> ceil420, nope, Bell Labs' Unix was always closed iirc
[06:45] <samliu> !tab Johnny_ pawbie provided the link earlier
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: idk what u mean
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: Hey!  Good job.
[06:45] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz 1991 was only 10 years ago?
[06:45] <samliu> er
[06:45] <talcite> LainIwakura: please don't forget which changes you make by the way. You'll have to undo them to test other methods.
[06:45] <samliu> lol
[06:45] <eugenebythesea> ceil420, talcite: the latest ndiswrapper in the repos is 1.50 - so i'll just go with that. blacklisting b43 and getting my driver now
[06:45] <SecretGirl> zero, f5 is for accessibility options, is that the one
[06:45]  * xepra needs help
[06:45] <talcite> LainIwakura: that's all you need
[06:45] <Kurtis-> LainIwakura: have you installed build-essential?
[06:45] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: both fglrx and the open source drivers support aiglx now
[06:45] <ceil420> zero, there are example .conkyrc files at http://conky.sourceforge.net - base your conkyrc on one of them and modify as necessary
[06:45] <xepra> Anyone know grub and mbr well?
[06:45] <Johnny_> pawbie: good job about what
[06:45] <LainIwakura> talcite: alright.. i'm going to give ndiswrapper a try first
[06:45] <pawbie> Johnny_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  Go there, find the link that says "alternative" for 8.04, and try that one.
[06:45] <samliu> xepra whats the problem
[06:45] <talcite> eugenebythesea: go ahead. 1.50 is fine
[06:45] <Seveas> Johnny_, watch out, I patented the 1!
[06:45] <zero> SecretGirl, its one of the f keys i cant remember exactly wich one
[06:45] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- Yes I installed that
[06:45] <Koheleth> xepra: whats up mate
[06:45] <samliu> I have some experience
[06:45] <nickrud> !md5 | Johnny_
[06:45] <ubotu> Johnny_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:45] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: i could've sworn linux didn't relese the kernel until 1998
[06:45] <xepra> I am getting "error 22" on my grub
[06:46] <zero> thanks ceil420
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> linus#
[06:46] <xepra> I accidently told ubuntu server to write grub to mbr
[06:46] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the new alt cd?
[06:46] <xepra> I tried reinstalling, but it didn't work
[06:46] <MrObvious> I can't get b43-fwcutter to work quite right. My wireless is really slow and I'd like it to work.
[06:46] <Johnny_> there is no md5check for the mac
[06:46] <AdrianStrays> ripps, alright, everything appears to be in working order, and also, it seems like that line issue I was talking about was mysteriously resolved in the process.  What was that command you told me to use to get the driver?
[06:46] <Koheleth> xepra:  I am not a grub man
[06:46] <samliu> oh
[06:46] <samliu> super grub boot disk
[06:46] <ceil420> Seveas, maybe i was tired at the time and i'm thinking of something different, but i was recently reading about the history of Unix, and i think the earliest versions were open. That might have been before Bell took on the project, though
[06:46] <xepra> unfortunate
[06:46] <nickrud> Johnny_ ok, another link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM has exact instructions for the mac. First thing, check to make sure you have a good download
[06:46] <Koheleth> try googling it
[06:46] <dystopianray> kindofabuzz: linux was first released in 1991
[06:46] <samliu> it has an auto fix for that situation
[06:46] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: how did you even get it to work? lol
[06:46] <talcite> LainIwakura: you'll probably have less chance of having ndiswrapper work. It has several bugs regarding WPA authentication
[06:46] <pawbie> xepra: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#21
[06:46] <samliu> hold on
[06:46] <mikebot> Or can anyone direct me to a FAQ or information page on the alt CD?
[06:46] <ceil420> np zero
[06:46] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel
[06:46] <ricree> is anyone able to help my out with a problem with my numlock activating?
[06:47] <ripps> AdrianStrays: Goto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:47] <LainIwakura> talcite: alright
[06:47]  * cupajoe raises hand
[06:47] <talcite> LainIwakura: look at http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-old
[06:47] <Koheleth> How do I edit Grub?
[06:47] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: ok, so I guess aiglx is better than xgl? How do I install this cuz currently I cannot enable compiz, I get "desktop effects could not be enabled" when I try to from system>>preferences>>appearence
[06:47] <AdrianStrays> Alright, thanks.  For the link and the help!
[06:47] <samliu> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:47] <Johnny_> the instructions wont work for it
[06:47] <Koheleth> !grub
[06:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:47] <talcite> LainIwakura: follow those instructions. It should work. Don't forget to un-blacklist b43
[06:47] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: what drivera re you using for your video card?
[06:47] <nickrud> Johnny_  md5 /path/to/iso , that doesn't work?
[06:47] <zero> SecretGirl, you get it?
[06:47] <LainIwakura> talcite: my question is this: isn't what is on that page already installed in hardy?
[06:47] <samliu> !xepra
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xepra - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <samliu> http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[06:47] <Johnny_> nickrud: idk what the path is
[06:47] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: my bad, i saw somehtin that was 10 years old this year and it mentioned Linus
[06:47] <talcite> pawbie: a binary is a program
[06:47] <samliu> please have a look :D
[06:47] <xepra> is there a way to remove grub from mbr completely?
[06:48] <Johnny_> i am on a mac and dont know how to check path
[06:48] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: What do you mean?
[06:48] <amirman84> so when i drag windows around, they are wobbly and awesome, is the compiz-fusion at work?
[06:48] <LainIwakura> talcite: Because I already have b43-fwcutter installed
[06:48] <pawbie> talcite: Fail. :\
[06:48] <samliu> download the disk, boot up, follow the screens
[06:48] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I just did the restricted thingy and it worked.
[06:48] <samliu> its pretty straightforward
[06:48] <nickrud> Johnny_ the path is the file folder structure.
[06:48] <samliu> it'll rewrite your mbr and grub stuff
[06:48] <samliu> :D
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: what does that mean
[06:48] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[06:48] <mikebot> samliu: Is that to me?
[06:48] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: I can't tell. In gutsy, I was prompted on my first boot up to install restricted drivers, but for Hardy I was not asked that, nor could I find the option in System>>administration. How can i check which driver I am using?
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: can we private chat
[06:48] <harriseldon> kindofabuzz there is a good documentary called revolution os about linux history. it covers the 1999 time frame, but very good
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: most people can't even get b43cutter working at all, at least your is working
[06:48] <talcite> LainIwakura: no idea. I don't know what hardy installs by default. I would make sure you have the firmware installed just to be sure
[06:48] <gnuskoo1> my ubuntu hardy is slower than my xp install, what gives?How do i make sure my intel graphics card is running optimum, it's way too sluggish at the mo?
[06:48] <Johnny_> nickrud: to get rid of this clutter
[06:48] <samliu> no its to xepra sorry mikebot
[06:48] <samliu> lol
[06:48] <jhoc2x> hello to all.... ^_^ im back
[06:48] <talcite> LainIwakura: also, use the b43-firmware cutter from that page
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> harriseldon: yeah i been meaning to watch that
[06:49] <pawbie> yay, Grub error 21 again.
[06:49] <pawbie> hm
[06:49] <nickrud> Johnny_ I've never used a mac, so I can't tell you how the mac's file structure is laid out. But I'm sure there's some info on the mac sites
[06:49] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I don't know. I have the bcm94311 chipset.
[06:49] <talcite> LainIwakura: it seems to be version specific
[06:49] <mikebot> nickrud: Do you know about the alt CD installation?
[06:49] <SecretGirl> f6 is for other options, i wrote what you said and hit enter, now its booting
[06:49] <SecretGirl> zero, what is the problem exactly?
[06:49] <samliu> gnuskoo1: disable advanced desktop effects
[06:49] <LainIwakura> talcite: ok i'll do that now
[06:49] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: hrrm i'm not entirely sure as xorg.conf no longer displays the driver in use
[06:49] <talcite> LainIwakura: alright. Good luck. I need to sleep. Exam tmr =/
[06:49] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: try running the restricted drivers thing manually
[06:49] <samliu> sorry guys I'm out to bed
[06:49] <LainIwakura> talcite: thanks
[06:49] <gnuskoo1> samliu: they arent even on, i get a compiz error when i try enable them
[06:49] <samliu> oh
[06:49] <samliu> hmm
[06:50] <samliu> sry I gtg
[06:50] <samliu> ttyl
[06:50] <Zasch> Hello. How do you upgrade by CD?
[06:50] <FloodBot2> samliu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <jhoc2x> !paste
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:50] <cupajoe> ﻿I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu. I am, however, sure that the volume is turned up in the software and not muted. I'm running on a laptop with integrated speakers, I believe it uses Realtek hardware. I don't know how to figure out what driver Ubuntu is using for it
[06:50] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: yea so i'm kinda stuck. I just did a clean install. the other day i upgraded from gutsy, and got compiz to work after installing xgl but it was sluggish and buggy, so i'm trying to find alternatices
[06:50] <Shadow_X> anyone know how to upgrade from the new alt cd?
[06:50] <Kurtis-> Okay, I'm going to have to edit menu.lst to cut the time from 10 seconds to 3 or something
[06:50]  * dsmith_ was able to avoide the new release this time yay! I downloaded 8.04 ahead of time and updated just now... Sweet
[06:50] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: I might have to ndiswrapper this stuff. :
[06:50] <supersako> i accidentally deleted my networking widget from the top right corner how do i get it back??
[06:50] <MrObvious> :\
[06:50] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: how do I run it manually if its not in my menu?
[06:50] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:50] <Peddy> can someone please tell me if there is any program for Gnome (gutsy) which allows you to change the volume for different apps?
[06:51] <jhoc2x> !filesystem
[06:51] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[06:51] <talcite> LainIwakura: oh one more thing. Check your system logs often when connection and modprobing modules. /var/log/messages in particular
[06:51] <pawbie> This freaky bird background has got to go.l
[06:51] <LainIwakura> talcite: ok
[06:51] <talcite> or kernel. Either may turn something up
[06:51] <Kurtis-> don't like the heron?
[06:51] <kindofabuzz> its a heron
[06:51] <jhoc2x> is it tux?
[06:51] <talcite> I think the heron's quite nice
[06:51] <harriseldon> Peddy: afaik, you would have to enable pulseaudio like hardy has installed.
[06:51] <talcite> anyways. night guys
[06:51] <kindofabuzz> heroin heron
[06:52] <Kurtis-> okay, what the hell, this still isn't working
[06:52] <backharlow> heron destroyed everything. i just lost a lot to the failed upgrade
[06:52] <supersako> uhh i just deleted my bars on the top right for the wireless networking how do i get it back?? :(
[06:52] <LainIwakura> Kurtis- this makes me want to go back to gutsy
[06:52] <tico> Hi I can install any extensions in firefox in 8.04, they all fail with an error
[06:52] <harriseldon> supersako run nm-applet (alt-f2 then type nm-applet)
[06:52] <kindofabuzz> backharlow: you didn't lose anything, all your personal shit is still on the hard drives
[06:52] <teban> hi
[06:52] <jhoc2x> LainIwakura: why?? is hardy not fine?
[06:52] <Kurtis-> Well, I'm afraid Gutsy never worked on this laptop
[06:52] <tico> cant*
[06:52] <supersako> no go harriseldom
[06:52] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:52] <nick_> many of you people make or work on programs for linux
[06:52] <r00723r0> I'm going to cry.
[06:52] <Kurtis-> did on my previous...
[06:53] <jhoc2x> Kurtis-: how so?
[06:53] <LainIwakura> jhoc2x: i'm sure it is.. i'm just having great difficulty setting up my wireless
[06:53] <Shadow_X> tico, the version if firefox that comes with 8.04 is beta 3. its still in beta testing so there are no extensions available yet
[06:53] <r00723r0> I just found the most beautiful theme ever but the matching icons won't work :(
[06:53] <teban> does anyone have a problem when moving windows to a new workspace with wobbly windows active in hardy?
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: how can I run the restricted drivers thing manually?
[06:53] <r00723r0> Theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Brit?content=74553
[06:53] <personaco> hey guys, if i install this new version of ubuntu, can i enable all those fancy compiz and xgl effects straight away or do i have to fuss with it to make it work?
[06:53] <Kurtis-> jhoc2x: Couldn't ever get X to work right, even with the right drivers
[06:53] <kindofabuzz> nick_: most people here are just like you
[06:53] <r00723r0> Icons: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/area+o.42+SVG+icon+theme?content=78259
[06:53] <r00723r0> Could someone help?
[06:53] <Kurtis-> couldn't get it to start
[06:53] <mikebot> Has anyone ever heard of the alt cd?
[06:53] <harriseldon> supersako check with hellmitre. hellmitre had a similar problem and figured it out
[06:53] <Kurtis-> even installed a base command prompt system
[06:53] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Hmm I'm gonna try this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/188621
[06:53] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: i'm not sure how to do it on ubuntu, but in kubuntu it appears in the menus as 'hardware drivers manager'
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> ok
[06:53] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme check it out
[06:53] <tico> Is anyone having trouble installing extensions in firefox with 8.04?
[06:54] <kindofabuzz> MrObvious: yeah there are alot of bug reports with broadcom chips
[06:54] <pawbie> Ok, someone sanity check this for me.
[06:54] <Kurtis-> tico: Firefox 3.0 isn't compatible with most 2.0 extensions
[06:54] <Shadow_X> tico, the version if firefox that comes with 8.04 is beta 3. its still in beta testing so there are no extensions available yet
[06:54] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[06:54] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: its weird, becaus the ATI Fire GL driver is checked but it says not in use. what could cause that?
[06:54] <pawbie> /dev/sdc2 would be hd2,1  yes?
[06:54] <^V^> nickrud: ubuntu now works fine
[06:54] <personaco>  hey guys, if i install this new version of ubuntu, can i enable all those fancy compiz and xgl effects straight away or do i have to fuss with it to make it work?
[06:54] <nickrud> ^V^ cool
[06:54] <tico> Shadow_X: Im using firefox 2
[06:54] <supersako> hellmitre not here?
[06:54] <^V^> nickrud: although my windows boot option disappeared :/
[06:54] <SecretGirl> zero, i'm at a command prompt, now what??
[06:54] <Shadow_X> tico, did you remove ff3 and manually install 2?
[06:54] <nickrud> ^V^ what partition is your windows on?
[06:55] <eugenebythesea> tico: when u install add ons from mozilla's website - do look at the button "install now" - if says "this add on is for older versions of firefox" then... don't do it
[06:55] <LainIwakura> ok i have to sleep now. I'm having trouble setting up my wireless connection. Please take a look at my thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765938 Thank you!
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: Yes
[06:55] <virtuald> how do i install ubuntu from ubuntu?
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: Twice.
[06:55] <Villarroel> Hi.
[06:55] <eugenebythesea> tico: personally all my add ons in firefox are working fine
[06:55] <r00723r0> Could someone help?
[06:55] <kindofabuzz> tico, try a new profile, and the best place for firefox help:  forums.mozillazine.org
[06:55] <zelrikriando> my upgrade broke everything
[06:55] <karllenz> how can i see what i have shared on my mac osx?
[06:55] <tico> Shadow_X: k
[06:55] <harriseldon> supersako, last I told hellmitre was to run nm-tool from terminal I do not know if that fixed it
[06:55] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: i have no idea
[06:56] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Yeah no kidding. I might just have to wait a while. :\
[06:56] <harriseldon> karllenz how did you share it?
[06:56] <ezzieyguywuf> ok guys, my ATI Fire GL driver is checked, but right next to the check box it says "not in use". What could be causing this?
[06:56] <karllenz> harriseldon: yes i have shared folders on my os x
[06:56] <jhoc2x> checked but not in use??? weird
[06:56] <kindofabuzz> help hardy broke my marriage, my left big toe, and my wallet! =)
[06:56] <^V^> nickrud: /dev/sdb
[06:56] <supersako> wasnt it harris :(
[06:56] <harriseldon> karllenz what mechanism did you use to share them? appletalk, cifs, etc
[06:56] <XceII> your wallet?
[06:56] <tico> eugenebythesea: Well yea, they should be working, but after it installs it give some error. Hoping to fix it now.
[06:56] <chew> wonder how many times has 8.04 been downloaded so far..
[06:56] <jhoc2x> lol.. wallet
[06:57] <matyy> sagt mal, kann ich mit powernowd eine Grenze für maximale Hertzzahl einstellen? z.B. um Strom zu sparen?
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> chew, torrent wise i saw over 5k seeders
[06:57] <nickrud> ^V^ according to your fdisk -l , you don't have a /dev/sdb ;)
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> and that's just the main install
[06:57] <matyy> sry wrong channel^^
[06:57] <chew> kindofabuzz: cool
[06:57] <harriseldon> supersako http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637090
[06:57] <zelrikriando> my ubuntu is broken :/
[06:57] <karllenz> harriseldon: i just dbl click the folder then hit get info the hit share folder
[06:57] <Kurtis-> I'm about to give up on 8.04 on my laptop if I can't get wireless to work.
[06:57] <Kurtis-> which is a shame...
[06:57] <MrObvious> kindofabuzz: Yeah I think I'll wait until later for wireless.
[06:57] <mikebot> Can someone help me with upgrading from the alternate cd?
[06:57] <^V^> nickrud: can you paste the link for that?
[06:57] <MrObvious> Kurtis-: I hear you.
[06:57] <pawbie> Error 21 yet again.
[06:57] <pawbie> grr
[06:57] <dystopianray> Kurtis-: what wireless card do you have?
[06:57] <Kurtis-> I'll still put it on my desktop
[06:57] <kindofabuzz> Kurtis, yeah stick with gutsy, that's what i'm doing
[06:58] <Kurtis-> bcm4311 rev 2
[06:58] <nickrud> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64314/ ^V^
[06:58] <Kurtis-> Gutsy won't work for me on this one
[06:58] <dystopianray> Kurtis-: did you try ndiswrapper?
[06:58] <Kurtis-> it's too new
[06:58] <Kurtis-> I have
[06:58] <kindofabuzz> the ones that don't work
[06:58] <jhoc2x> Kurtis-: me too... ^_^
[06:58] <mikebot> Or can someone just give me a link to a page that has information regarding the alternate cd installation process?
[06:58] <Callipyginous> anyone else having trouble with the samba app?
[06:58] <nickrud> mikebot sorry, got sidetracked and forgot your question
[06:58] <kindofabuzz> mikebot, just put it in and follow directions
[06:58] <jhoc2x> i think it still needs time to jump to 8.04
[06:58] <Shadow_X> disregard my previous question as I found the answer :)
[06:58] <forevertheuni> bah..my upgrade app always freezes at the beggining
[06:58] <^V^> nickrud: hmm...it says hdb there but on my current fdisk -l it says sdb
[06:58] <forevertheuni> :/
[06:58] <nickrud> mikebot it is extremely simple, and self explanitory
[06:58] <karllenz> harriseldon: i see my mac in my network servers but there is nothing there
[06:59] <soreau> How come Hardware Drivers do not list nvidia card as it did with RDM in Feisty?
[06:59] <harriseldon> karllenz try using places connect to server -- try it as a windows share. I do not know what mechanism osx uses by default. you may want to find that out first
[06:59] <dystopianray> karllenz: then it must not be sharing anything
[06:59] <nickrud> ^V^ ah, you're using the hardy kernel now :)
[06:59] <mikebot> nickrud: It seems that at file 1085 of 1228 it starts downloading from the internet.
[06:59] <forevertheuni> what's the new line at sources.list to replace gutsy?
[06:59] <^V^> nickrud: yes :)
[06:59] <mikebot> nickrud: Instead of off the CD..
[06:59] <supersako> harris i tried that but its not the one that was there default
[06:59] <Shadow_X> just a quick question. where there any last minute updates made today after the official release?
[06:59] <nickrud> mikebot alt-f8 will show the install log, you can see for sure what it's doing
[06:59] <orven> is it normal that packages are showing as 'unauthenticated'?
[06:59] <kindofabuzz> i wonder if there's anyway to upgrade from the hardy iso?
[06:59] <dystopianray> Shadow_X: no
[06:59] <tico> Shadow_X: Yep working, deleted the profile...shoulda thought of that. Thanks.
[07:00] <dystopianray> Shadow_X: well not that i saw anyway
[07:00]  * MrObvious needs some sleep.
[07:00] <chx> is it just me or sudo is horribly broken as it displays my password?
[07:00] <mikebot> nickrud: Where/when do I press this?
[07:00] <Hadeshorn> Hi everyone! Im trying to install Hardy, but when it comes to the partition bit. my partitions dont show up and just shows the whole disk with no partitions. However in the live CD i can look thru my partitions with no problem
[07:00] <obf213> hey im getting this error when i try to open eclipse
[07:00] <SecretGirl> i'm installing ubuntu from an external cdrom, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:00] <obf213> A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
[07:00] <obf213> must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
[07:00] <obf213> was found after searching the following locations:
[07:00] <obf213> /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java
[07:00] <FloodBot2> obf213: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <harriseldon> supersako, I do not know what applet you had before, sorry
[07:00] <h00k> I am having a problem getting an external NTFS drive to automount in Hardy.  Gutsy automounted, but Hardy will not.
[07:00] <nickrud> mikebot at any time
[07:00] <mikebot> nickrud: I'm running it from my desktop... should I boot from CD or something?
[07:00] <dystopianray> obf213: what jdk do you have installed?
[07:00] <obf213> openjdk 6
[07:00] <harriseldon> h00k what have you done so far to figure out what is happening?
[07:00] <nickrud> mikebot your last line does not compute ;)
[07:00] <dystopianray> obf213: edit /etc/eclipse/java_home
[07:00] <obf213> sorry about the flood i didnt think it would do the newline like that
[07:00] <supersako> harris, the one that comes with ubuntu LOL
[07:00] <supersako> its a different icon
[07:01] <nickrud> ^V^ a sec, I'll put together a stanza for you
[07:01] <dystopianray> obf213: put /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk at the top of the list
[07:01] <forevertheuni> ...in sources.list...shoul I replace gutsy by hardy?(the upgrade app hangs)
[07:01] <harriseldon> supersako I thought it was nm-applet, maybe it changed in hardy
[07:01] <supersako> could be??
[07:01] <supersako> i keep typing in nm-applet nothing happens
[07:01] <mikebot> nickrud: I mean, I thought that I would be installing from the CD, not downloading from the internet.. alt+f8 is not doing anything.
[07:01] <supersako> alt+f2 nm-applet
[07:01] <Hadeshorn> how do i change the permissions on a partition to me?
[07:01] <matyy> can I set limits for a AMD processor? (max ghz) if yes, with powernowd?
[07:01] <Koheleth> !grub
[07:01]  * cupajoe raises hand
[07:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:01] <nickrud> mikebot might be alt-f4
[07:01] <h00k> harriseldon: it's not showing up in /dev
[07:01] <harriseldon> supersako try nm-applet --sm-disable
[07:01] <nick_> Does ayone know much about kmplot
[07:01] <Hadeshorn> !chown
[07:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:02] <karllenz> dystopianray: i got it had to hit options and choose what i wanted
[07:02] <gnuskoo1> who has a working xorg.conf for a Intel Corporation
[07:02] <gnuskoo1> 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics card??
[07:02] <h00k> harriseldon: dmesg reports 'sdb' when i plug it in, but I cant manually mount because I don't see it in /dev/
[07:02] <mikebot> nickrud: That asked me if I wanted to cancel the upgrade... I'm running it right now./
[07:02] <mikebot> nickrud: I just put the CD in and clicked on `run upgrade'
[07:02] <supersako> ahhh i got it
[07:02] <AdrianStrays> ripps, I take that back...the lines and video issues returned when I reactive compiz
[07:02] <supersako> harris, i need to add notification area
[07:02] <saross0219> anyone good with wireless issues here?
[07:02] <harriseldon> h00k sdb is just the device, not the partition, you cannot mount just the device
[07:03] <nickrud> mikebot ah, you're upgrading, not doing a fresh instal
[07:03] <supersako> i freakn deleted the notification area ! :P
[07:03] <xepra> silly 8.04, won't set up grub right
[07:03] <h00k> harriseldon: there is no sdb1, sdb2 to mount either
[07:03] <dny> my sound keeps going out, and i have to reboot for it to start again.  is there a way to restart alsa or something? :/
[07:03] <pawbie> xepra: I seem to be having the same issue...  Error 21.
[07:03] <mikebot> nickrud: Correct.
[07:03] <xepra> I had a similar problem on desktop edition
[07:03] <soreau> Why would Hardware Drivers in Hardy not list an nVidia card as it did with RDM in Feisty?
[07:03] <xepra> but i was able to fix it, just had to change hd7 to hd0
[07:03] <mikebot> nickrud: And I'm confused as to why it is downloading from the internet instead of installing from the CD.
[07:03] <xepra> now its all fubar
[07:03] <dsop> does someone have problems with the framebuffer in hardy?
[07:03] <towlie> hi i ran update manager and hit check. im on 7.10 by the way. it says its downloading 26 files and i think theyre repository info but its not updating to 8.04
[07:03] <nickrud> mikebot yes, you have some packages that you downloaded from the net in gutsy, and are not on the cd. It has to go to the net to get those files
[07:04] <dsop> my inittab only displays white background
[07:04] <gnuskoo1> a working xorg.conf for Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics please, or where do i change this in te gui?
[07:04] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, can you help me or are your hands full?
[07:04] <harriseldon> h00k are there any errors in dmesg?
[07:04] <nickrud> AdrianStrays a sec, I'm stretched with 2. Be done with one as soon as I finish some editing
[07:04] <obf213> dystopianray: thanks
[07:04] <adil> asskum
[07:04] <mikebot> nickrud: Is there any way to bypass this process?
[07:04] <SecretGirl> i'm installing ubuntu from an external cdrom, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:04] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, alright I'll wait
[07:05] <Moc> Anyone with flashing screen issues with nvidia drivers ?
[07:05] <Moc> only on the primary monitor (8600 gt)
[07:05] <Shadow_X> ok while attempting an upgrade I keep getting the error: "Unable to calculate upgrade" and the installer stops. any suggestions?
[07:05] <zenlunatic> any known problems with slow internet in hardy?
[07:05] <nickrud> mikebot none that I'm aware of. You could try unplugging your ethernet ;)
[07:05] <h00k> harriseldon: I know the drive is okay, and ->http://pastebin.com/m3e728ab
[07:05] <Kurtis-> zenlunatic: are you referring to the repositories?
[07:05] <mikebot> nickrud: Heh, ughhhhhh OK, thanks.
[07:05] <Zelta> Will upgrading to Hardy Heron ruin ndiswrapper?
[07:06] <milly1234> my wireless seems to have a weaker signal since upgrading to hardy.... but no slower wired connections
[07:06] <towlie> hi i ran update manager and hit check. im on 7.10 by the way. it says its downloading 26 files and i think theyre repository info but its not updating to 8.04
[07:06] <pawbie> Ok, now I'm totally confused.  I know for a fact this is on SATA channel 4, sdc.  But I can boot that disk with BIOS options and change root to hd(0,0) and it books?
[07:06] <zenlunatic> Kurtis-: no. just browsing ff
[07:06] <towlie> can someone help me out
[07:06] <Koheleth> wow, ubuntus way of managing grub is a bit in the dark ages
[07:06] <Kurtis-> I've not had any slow browsing experiences.
[07:06] <harriseldon> h00k it looks like you are getting io errors
[07:06] <jeffimperial> a little help with upgrading to Hardy, please?
[07:06] <harriseldon> h00k did you try any other usb ports to confirm that it is not a problem with the port?
[07:06] <zenlunatic> Kurtis-: thanks
[07:06] <seamus7> !ask
[07:06] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[07:06] <Koheleth> !upgrade
[07:06] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:06] <h00k> harriseldon: let me try...
[07:06] <milly1234> Kurtis-, congratulations
[07:07] <ChrisULM> got a problem with hardy, i have a panel with icons at the bottom of my desktop, but when i restart it moves the panel to the top. whats going on?
[07:07] <Zelta> Will upgrading to Hardy Heron ruin ndiswrapper?
[07:07] <towlie> i need help upgrading from 7.10 can anyone help me out
[07:07] <Kurtis-> A friend of mine got his card to work with ndiswrapper
[07:07] <Kurtis-> I can't, though
[07:07] <Shadow_X> towlie, the servers are being extremely slow today because of the new release. everyone is upgrading today, so the servers are under extreme stress. furthermore, after the check is finished, you need to click "upgrade" at the top of the update manager
[07:07] <seamus7> towlie: what's the problem?
[07:07] <SecretGirl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my laptop from an external CDROM but the installation stops at 90% on "Loading module "aec62xx" for IDE chipset support", any ideas how to fix this
[07:07] <nickrud> ^V^ I think http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64316/ should work, your drives all being seen as serial devices should remove all the sata/pata pain
[07:07] <Kurtis-> which is bothersome because he's an absolute n00b to Linux and I've been using it for a few years now
[07:08] <towlie> seamus7, i ran update manager hit check and it says its downloading 45 files. once it completes i hit check again and it does the same thing over and over again
[07:08] <nickrud> AdrianStrays now, ask me your question so I can probably say, 'no freaking clue' ;)
[07:08] <jeffimperial> I am using the cdromupgrade (Alternate CD) because I have very slow Internet Connection (ADSL). wanted to ask if why the method i'm using is still connecting to the internet..
[07:08] <cellofellow> this question is NOT ABOUT HARDY: should I set up the rsync daemon to use xinetd like this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync) says, or use a regular UNIX daemon? (I'm trying to get BackupPC working.)
[07:08] <grzyb> root@sextasy:/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/cs5535audio# insmod snd-cs5535audio.ko
[07:08] <grzyb> insmod: error inserting 'snd-cs5535audio.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[07:08] <grzyb> :D
[07:08] <Kurtis-> Okay, I'm giving up. I'll try Hardy on my laptop once others have actually had success, heh
[07:08] <Kurtis-> I'll just stick with it on my desktop
[07:08] <Arelis> Has the chat calmed down a bit?
[07:08] <nickrud> jeffimperial because you have installed stuff during gutsy that is still only available over the net
[07:08] <Arelis> so i can finally ask my question?
[07:08] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, so my issue was originally this.  Whenever I change screens or played videos, these vertical lines appeared all over my screen.  I posted on the ubuntu forums, someone suggested I use EnvyNG.  I did, and that made things worse.  The lines remained, and now I couldn't watch videos, nothing displayed.  I worked with ripps on here, and we were able to reverse some of the problem.  Videos now work and lines are gone when comp
[07:09] <h00k> harriseldon: no errors, but it does keep saying [  920.986234] usb 7-3: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[07:09] <Kurtis-> and I can't follow this chat. It's giving me a major headache. Too many users
[07:09] <Hadeshorn> why does my partitions not show up in gparted when using the hardy live cd?
[07:09] <towlie> seamus7, can i pm you
[07:09] <Kurtis-> 'night to the ones where it's actually night
[07:09] <Arelis> Kurtis-: still a busy chat, eh?
[07:09] <seamus7> towlie: sound like what others have said ... it's just not able to complete the download fully because of the load on servers at the moment ... might need to wait til tomorrow
[07:09] <Kurtis-> quite
[07:09] <jeffimperial> nickrud: any workaround so that Update Manager won't connect to the Internet?
[07:09] <seamus7> towlie: yes
[07:09] <Arelis> !party
[07:09] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[07:09] <Kurtis-> I'm used to channels with a max of 50 users
[07:09] <Liquid-Silence> hmmm
[07:09] <Liquid-Silence> I just intalled the nvidia drivers
[07:10] <cellofellow> this question is NOT ABOUT HARDY: should I set up the rsync daemon to use xinetd like this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync) says, or use a regular UNIX daemon? (I'm trying to get BackupPC working.)
[07:10] <^V^> nickrud: thanks
[07:10] <Liquid-Silence> but I cant run dual monitors
[07:10] <markf> whu not using a torrent file?
[07:10] <nickrud> jeffimperial you can try disabling all your sources, except for the cdrom. It probably won't work, since you'd have some broken packages.
[07:10] <leonbrussels> SecretGirl: probably a malburnt CD. Try the check cd for defect option in the boot menu
[07:10] <Arelis> !party | Everybody, DO NOT IGNORE THIS MESSAGE
[07:10] <ubotu> Everybody, DO NOT IGNORE THIS MESSAGE: please see above
[07:10] <dsop> does someone have problems with the framebuffer in hardy?
[07:10] <h00k> harriseldon: now I disconnected the drive and got I/O errors again, unable to read partition table.  This isn't cool, I'll see what I can do
[07:10] <Kurtis-> anyway, bye
[07:10] <nickrud> ^V^ thank me if it works ;)
[07:10] <zelrikriando> how to make compiz work again on hardy
[07:10] <zelrikriando> ?
[07:10] <kimmey> I was running update-manager to update to hardy. When it update-manager started to remove old packages my power went down. How may I fix this?
[07:10] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, I'm using a Raedon Xpress 1100 card.  I've been having massive amounts of issues since upgrading, and in all honestly, I'm having trouble remembering all the things we've done.
[07:10] <jeffimperial> nickrud: how 'bout just turning off my modem? would the Upd. Mgr. still continue to work if i just unplug it?
[07:10] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Doesn't it work?
[07:10] <Waffle> Arelis, what message are we not supposed to ignore?
[07:11] <SecretGirl> CD is fine
[07:11] <Nahi> can anyone help me in cpanel stuff i recently got a server and im trying to make users for cpanel
[07:11] <dny> my sound keeps going out, and i have to reboot for it to start again.  is there a way to restart alsa or something? :/
[07:11] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: lots of things got broken when I upgraded
[07:11] <nickrud> jeffimperial it'll try to download from the net, but get 404's. Then you can depend on breakage
[07:11] <cupajoe> ﻿﻿I have a quick question, I just installed Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get my sound to work. I'm a generally advanced user though treat me like a basic one because this is my first time using Ubuntu. I am, however, sure that the volume is turned up in the software and not muted. I'm running on a laptop with integrated speakers, I believe it uses Realtek hardware. I don't know how to figure out what driver Ubuntu is using for it
[07:11] <SecretGirl> leonbrussels, someone recommended booting with  acpi and apm off, i did that and now i'm at a command prompt. what should i do now
[07:11] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: I cant even start the synaptic manager
[07:11] <pawbie> argh
[07:11] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: OPen up a terminal and type compiz. Thne give the output
[07:11] <pawbie> Grub fragged my stripe set.
[07:11] <xepra> cupajoe: sometimes the drivers don't work by default, I never could get them to work right in fact
[07:11] <Arelis> Waffle: the chat about release partying - because, yesterday, many people were coming in and saying "Hardy got released!", so people wouldn't get good support
[07:11] <h00k> harriseldon: any ideas off the top of your head?
[07:11] <Shadow_X> im trying to upgrade to hardy, and even after removing unsupported packages, the upgrade still fails and complains that it can calculate the changes. any ideas?
[07:12] <harriseldon> SecretGirl is this a macbook pro?
[07:12] <cupajoe> Well that's depressing :/
[07:12] <nickrud> AdrianStrays the end of your question got cut off
[07:12] <leonbrussels> SecretGril: Try pressing Control+D and it will normally continue booting normally
[07:12] <jeffimperial> nickrud: oh well... three hourse and 122 files to go then.. thanks anyway
[07:12] <leonbrussels> SecretGirl: Try pressing Control+D and it will normally continue booting normally
[07:12] <Arelis> Waffle: err, chat = message
[07:12] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: http://pastebin.com/m45855108
[07:12] <cupajoe> Anyone else have thoughts?
[07:12] <mlw1> hey again, I'm having some big problems connecting to a sftp server in 8.04.  It worked fine and extremely fast on 7.10, but now using connect to server and specifying the same settings gives me errors after about one folder access.  Any ideas?
[07:12] <harriseldon> h00k I have no idea, it seems like a hardware issue. do you have another computer to test with? even a 7.10 live cd if that worked before
[07:12] <xepra> cupajoe:  google around, sometimes you just have to build/install your own
[07:12] <xepra> which isn't too bad
[07:12] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: the synaptic package manager is more important I guess
[07:12] <nickrud> jeffimperial yeah, the downside of using a net oriented os. I used to update debian unstable over a modem, so I have only a little sympathy ;)
[07:12] <supersako> do we need to install the simple ccsm now for compiz?
[07:13] <pawbie> supersako: Fusion-icon
[07:13] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, this may be easier: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765749
[07:13] <cupajoe> Well I can install my own but I don't quite have the level of skill needed to build a driver
[07:13] <the_darkside_986> does Ubuntu Hardy still support single-core 32-bit CPU like Intel Celeron?
[07:13] <h00k> harriseldon: I'll try a live CD, I have some other utils I can try.  It /just/ worked today, newer drive, backed up all my info to it before my upgrade
[07:13] <SecretGirl> harriseldon, no, a compaq nx9010
[07:13] <Nahi> i have cpanel installed but i dunno how to use it
[07:13] <supersako> im reading this thing that says u need to dl a new thing called simple-ccsm
[07:13] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: yes, of course it does
[07:13] <jeffimperial> nickrud: thanks man.. at least i can stop wondering.. have to leave the effing room so that i could maximize the bandwidth..  laters
[07:13] <harriseldon> SecretGirl I saw some macbook pro threads with the same error, I will keep checking
[07:13] <jeanre> hi all
[07:13] <SecretGirl> leonbrussels, control+d dush do anything i'm still in the built in shell
[07:14] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: yes
[07:14] <jeanre> hi all0ModeLine "1280x800" 80.58 1280 1344 1480 1680 800 801 804 8270?
[07:14] <the_darkside_986> ok. and i386 is the right iso?
[07:14] <jeanre> err
[07:14] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, that is the beginning.  The problem has changed alittle.  Now when I switch off compiz, videos work fine and the lines are gone, when I switch it back on, the lines show up, a bit less, and videos are blinky and have lines all over them.
[07:14] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Is synaptic broken?
[07:14] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: yes
[07:14] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: thats like 90% of all computers, so of course
[07:14] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: yeah
[07:14] <jeanre> is there any reason why I can not run 1280x800 on with nvidia drivers?
[07:14] <mlw1> is there a terminal command to change the resolution of a monitor that I could add to my session commands for startup?
[07:14] <Cusoon959> I blacklisted ssb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist along with b43. b43 is no longer loading, but ssb is. How do I fix this?
[07:14] <SecretGirl> does anybody know how to install ubuntu from the shell
[07:14] <SecretGirl> step by step
[07:14] <m8m8y8> jia hao
[07:14] <leonbrussels> zelrikirando: What does it say?
[07:14] <Arelis> Hello, everybody. I want to get my Wacom Bamboo Fun (which is an USB tablet you connect to the pc, used to draw pictures or animations on a computer, or write some things down) to work with Ubuntu Hardy. Many people had 'promised' (somewhat) that the Bamboo Fun would automatically work in Hardy. Up to now, it doesn't. There's not even a /dev/input/wacom . So how do i get it to work?
[07:14] <m8m8y8> youren ma
[07:14] <nickrud> AdrianStrays ah, if it's only with compiz, ask in #compiz-fusion. They know how that interacts with the various video drivers
[07:14] <dystopianray> SecretGirl: sounds like you'll need the alternate install cd
[07:15] <leonbrussels>  zelrikriando: What does it say?
[07:15] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, I already tried them, no one responded.
[07:15] <the_darkside_986> ok thanks. and is this the correct output of uname -a on my system that has Intel Celeron 3.2 Ghz: "Linux hardy-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux" ?
[07:15] <nickrud> AdrianStrays cdlrb, watch for him.
[07:15] <myf>   /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:15] <Tweaker> Hola, I got a question about another game...Its called Eclipse and it allows you to build your own ORPG and I've got it working, but I can't enter the admin panel with the F1 button, why is this?
[07:15] <AdrianStrays> Nickrud, I believe it has something to do with xorg.conf
[07:15] <harriseldon> Tweaker is it native or through Wine?
[07:15] <Tweaker> Through Wine
[07:16] <nickrud> AdrianStrays crldb maybe, one of those meaningless character strings. He's already in bed probably, but is around nearly daily, for long periods
[07:16] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: that s weird...I can run it through the terminal
[07:16] <SecretGirl> dystopianray, the cd is fine i checked and there's no problem, its an original cd that i ordered
[07:16] <zenlunatic> the_darkside_986: i think SMP means dual core/multi procs
[07:16] <damo22> hi im trying to add cdrom to apt... i get E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[07:16] <SecretGirl> does anybody know how to install ubuntu from the shell, step by step
[07:16] <dystopianray> SecretGirl: still, it sounds like you'll need the alternate install cd
[07:16] <harriseldon> Tweaker F1 is already mapped in gnome, you need to change the mapping there first. Gnome hot keys will be use before wine
[07:16] <h00k> harriseldon: Well, I turned the drive off for a bit, moved the usb cables a little, and it works now, automount and all.
[07:16] <the_darkside_986> yeah that's why i am worried. and it would explain the awful behavior of the whole system. but it doesn't act like that on the live cd
[07:16] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, alright I'll try back in the morning
[07:16] <mlw1> anyone know what I might be doing wrong to have my display resolution overwritten on every reboot?
[07:16] <Tweaker> Ok, how do I do this Harriseldon.?
[07:16] <jeanre> does anyone have any ideas on this
[07:16] <h00k> harriseldon: that scared me.  thanks for letting me think out loud about it ;)
[07:17] <nickrud> AdrianStrays between you and me, I don't use compiz on my 1100, it's just to freaking slow
[07:17] <jeanre> my mode line does not work
[07:17] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: all ubuntu is going to support SMP, so you're using the right one
[07:17] <harriseldon> h00k anytime, I am glad that it worked
[07:17] <Aces|> Anyone know if the Hardy Live CD has better Nvidia Graphics driver support than Gusty Gibbon did?
[07:17] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: try typing sudo apt-get install gedit
[07:17] <ChrisULM> got a problem with hardy, i have a panel with icons at the bottom of my desktop, but when i restart it moves the panel to the top. whats going on?
[07:17] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: if performance isn't very good, you probably need to enable the nonfree video driver
[07:17] <damo22> hi im trying to add hardy cdrom to apt... i get E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[07:17] <nickrud> Aces| it has the latest nvidia driver, while gutsy's was months out of date
[07:17] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: You already have that installed, but it will tell you where it chrashes
[07:18] <the_darkside_986> I already have the non-free nvidia driver setup. The whole system lags and startup time is extremely long.
[07:18] <zenlunatic> Aces|: from my experience so far, yes.  all the multiverse etc is default
[07:18] <knapsack_> Anyone know if there is an eclipse PDT (PHP Development framework) package in any Ubuntu repos?
[07:18] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: it s not crashing
[07:18] <Aces|> ok thanks nickrud I just had quite a bit of troubling installing 7.10 with the live cd so I ended up having to use the alternate
[07:18] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: what do you mean by "lags"?
[07:18] <Aces|> Ok thanks
[07:18] <Arelis> For anyone who wants to get a Wacom Bamboo Fun to work in Ubuntu, click this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4787309#post4787309
[07:18] <AdrianStrays> nickrud, I think I'll disable it for now, I'm just frustrated that I went from Gusty, where everything worked, to Hardy where all I've had is graphics issues. I was kind of hoping things would get better.  Thanks anyways
[07:18] <Aces|> Ill give it a try
[07:18] <SecretGirl> dystopianray, if there was a problem with cd, wouldn't the scan for defects return something
[07:18] <Acoustyk> Hardy is lagging!
[07:18] <Kl4m> the_darkside_986: generic kernel enables SMP only if it can. the SMP mention is because it supports it.
[07:18] <jeanre> why cant I run 1280x800?
[07:18] <amazing_lady> 8.04 is cool
[07:18] <Acoustyk> anyone know any quick fixes for this?
[07:18] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: So only synaptic is crashing?
[07:18] <xepra> anyone know xen well?
[07:18] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: only from the taskbar
[07:18] <Tweaker> Does anyone know what the F1 key does in gnome so I can unassign it?
[07:18] <NukeSkyjumper> Acoustyk: obviously, you haven't given any details of the problem
[07:19] <dystopianray> SecretGirl: not if the problem is related to hardware incompatibilities
[07:19] <the_darkside_986> Everytime I start a process such as synaptic, it seems that it tries to hog the CPU and even the mouse cursor freezes for a while.
[07:19] <nickrud> AdrianStrays all I can say is everything worked fine for me (beta install nearly 2 months ago, and updates since then. First time that Works for Me™ :)
[07:19] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: I can start it from a terminal
[07:19] <Acoustyk> lol
[07:19] <harriseldon> Tweaker, I do not see the setting for F1 in keyboard shortcuts.  I am not sure where it is being "trapped"
[07:19] <Acoustyk> well when browsing I notice lag in the scrolling
[07:19] <Acoustyk> very jagged and what not
[07:19] <xepra> anyone know xen well? I had a question on the gui...
[07:19] <harriseldon> Tweaker, does Eclipse have any way to remap the keys?
[07:19] <Acoustyk> also my boot time has doubled
[07:19] <Tweaker> Hmm, could it be some were else then?
[07:19] <Tweaker> Sadly no it does not, F1 always opens the Admin panels
[07:19] <NukeSkyjumper> the_darkside_986: try disabling "visual effects" in the Appearance settings
[07:19] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: "sudo: unable to resolve host shipon " why is that?
[07:20] <Acoustyk> and I have an Application problem alert upon logging in
[07:20] <the_darkside_986> I've already disabled visual effects.
[07:20] <pawbie> I am so pissed off at 8.04 right now.
[07:20] <pawbie> hm
[07:20] <jeanre> Ok guys I am running the nvidia driver
[07:20] <zenlunatic> Acoustyk: wow.  lots of problems
[07:20] <Acoustyk> yea
[07:20] <jeanre> I can not get 1280x800 to work for some reason even tho the lcd I selected is 1280x800
[07:20] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Weird, dunno, maybe you  just want to do a clean install but copying your home directory so you can keep all you settings, thats what I'm gonna do when it finished copying
[07:21] <zelrikriando> leonbrussels: I dont want to do that
[07:21] <jeanre> I can go 1280X720
[07:21] <soreau> Why would Hardware Drivers in Hardy not list an nVidia card as it did with RDM in Feisty?
[07:21] <leonbrussels> zelrikriando: Then I don't know, sorry :(
[07:21] <SecretGirl> i have installed ubuntu before on the laptop
[07:21] <SecretGirl> no problems then, but i do have some malfunctioning hardware, do u think it has something to do with it
[07:21] <SecretGirl> cant i install ubuntu from a command prompt
[07:21] <nickrud> Tweaker Acoustyk isn't it alt-f1 for the panel menus?
[07:21] <leonbrussels> bye everybody, whish me luck for installing
[07:21] <Acoustyk> yea
[07:22] <Shadow_X> what would happen if i added the 8.04 cd to the 7.10 repositories in synaptic?
[07:22] <the_darkside_986> A "sudo apt-get update" must be done to let non-free nvidia card drivers show up in the hardware manager if you didn't let the installer "scan the mirrors" during installation.
[07:22] <Acoustyk> no problems with the panel other than a slight delay
[07:22] <Tweaker> Uhm Im talking about the Panels in this game.F1 opens them and would alt F1 still affect the key mapping?
[07:22] <devin_> anyone know of a way to resize the terminal and keep it at your desired size?
[07:22] <Acoustyk> I found a tweak to solve the same problem in 7.10 tho
[07:22] <NukeSkyjumper> Shadow_X: you would be upgrading to Hardy, which does work. however, that usually causes little bugs here and there
[07:23] <nickrud> Acoustyk it's modifiable, in metacity at /apps/metacity/global_keybindings, and compiz in ccsm in general options, keybindings tab
[07:23] <Shadow_X> NukeSkyjumper, just wondering. because i keep getting upgrade errors while trying to do a "normal" upgrade and im getting sick of it lol
[07:23] <nickrud> Acoustyk unless I've totally missed the question ;)
[07:23] <Shadow_X> i have my stuff backed up anyway, so im not too concerned about a failure during upgrade
[07:23] <Acoustyk> lol yea you did
[07:23] <Acoustyk> im having lag problems
[07:23] <damo22> hi im trying to add hardy cdrom to apt... i get E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[07:23] <nick_> im on ubuntu 7.1 just installed it 2 days ago would upgrading to 8 be better is there better support
[07:23] <nickrud> I threw in that caveat when I saw you say lag just before :)
[07:24] <NukeSkyjumper> Shadow_X: if you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change "gutsy" to "hardy" and then upgrade all packages, you should get a working hardy system
[07:24] <Wavesonics> monitors works via GUI in 8.04!!!
[07:24] <Johnny_5> so i guess the consensus is that gutsy may still be better than hardy
[07:24] <Wavesonics> :)
[07:24] <Acoustyk> yea
[07:24] <nickrud> nick_ gutsy will have support for another year right here, as well as hardy
[07:24] <Shadow_X> hmm ok. i'll try that
[07:24] <Johnny_5> that's kinda what i've been gathering
[07:24] <laiya> hi
[07:24] <Wavesonics> in 8.04 I cant enable "normal" effects
[07:24] <Wavesonics> getting crash
[07:24] <nickrud> Johnny_5 I'm voting hardy big time
[07:24] <nick_> sweet
[07:24] <Johnny_5> heh
[07:25] <laiya> hey how do i cascade the windows ?
[07:25] <NukeSkyjumper> Wavesonics: do you have the nonfree video driver enabled?
[07:25] <Johnny_5> i'm just not convinced i need 2 upgrade from gutsy quite yet
[07:25] <nickrud> I've run every release, and breezy for me was the most trouble free one, but hardy is running close
[07:25] <harriseldon> Tweaker have you tried a virtual desktop with wine (use winecfg)? I am just guessing here since I do not know
[07:25] <Wavesonics> NukeSkujumper: I dont think so, should I?
[07:25] <Tweaker> Give me a second and I can try that
[07:25] <Wavesonics> I have an ATI card
[07:25] <NukeSkyjumper> Wavesonics: yeah, it'll enable 3d support
[07:25] <nickrud> Johnny_5 waiting a couple weeks is not a bad idea, just in case some bad bugs suddenly crop up and need fixing
[07:26] <NukeSkyjumper> though i'm not sure how much better the nonfree ATI driver is than the open source one
[07:26] <Wavesonics> ok
[07:26] <NukeSkyjumper> you should still try it
[07:26] <ricree> devin_: not that I know of.  However, the man page says that if you add --geometry=(number of chars horizontal)x(number of chars vertical) it will set your terminal to a specified size by default
[07:26] <Johnny_5> ah...
[07:26] <nickrud> Wavesonics if you have a 9550 or later, you will need the restricted one to run 3d apps
[07:27] <laiya> i recently saw a video of ubuntu where they were able to cascade the windows and it looked quite cool .. how does one do that ?
[07:27] <devin_> ricree ill give it a try
[07:27] <NukeSkyjumper> laiya: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Settings. it's in there, somewhere
[07:27] <harriseldon> laiya it may have been with compiz-fusion (aka desktop effects)
[07:28] <NukeSkyjumper> laiya: though you probably need to "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" first
[07:28] <XceII> ya^
[07:28] <mudd`Hossam> question: can ext3 filesystem and ntfs file system exist on one driver under different partitions? thank you
[07:28] <damo22> i want to upgrade from feisty to hardy can i just do "dist-upgrade" ?
[07:28] <dystopianray> mudd`Hossam: yes of course
[07:28] <nickrud> mudd`Hossam yes
[07:28] <Acoustyk> anyone know how to stop lag in firefox 3 on hardy?
[07:28] <prodigel> Hi. I'm having problems with gdm or something from gnome. My desk freezes just from checking properties on a panel applet, or trying to change desktop background. Alt+tab and other window shortcut keys still function. Could you help me trace to problem?
[07:28] <mudd`Hossam> more specifically (a raid0 array of two drives)
[07:28] <mudd`Hossam> YES, thank you very much
[07:28] <nickrud> damo22   do-release-upgrade   is preferred
[07:29] <NukeSkyjumper> Acoustyk: nobody knows what you mean by "lag". you need to be more specific
[07:29] <Acoustyk> the scrolling is awfully jagged
[07:29] <Lardarse> does anyone know what happened to the "xmms" package? it's in gutsy but not hardy
[07:29] <ricree> Acoustyk: what is the cpu usage like?
[07:29] <harriseldon> prodigel once you are in gnome, gdm is out of the picture
[07:29] <tijn> Lardarse, i know!! :(
[07:29] <nickrud> damo22 it does some checks specific to ubuntu (don't ask me exactly what they are, one of the uber-geeks told me that)
[07:29] <Acoustyk> how do I check that in ubuntu?
[07:29] <tijn> Bring back XMMS!!
[07:29] <timr92> what's XMMS?
[07:29] <laiya> NukeSkyjumper: installing
[07:29] <XceII> Lardarse:  check add remove, but first allow backports
[07:30] <damo22> nickrud: E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[07:30] <nickrud> tijn they replaced it with xmms2
[07:30] <Lardarse> XceII: i did
[07:30] <hugol1> hi, my nvidia doesnt work sine I installed hardy. In Launchpad a lot of people is complaining about the same. Anybody knows a way to solve it?
[07:30] <ricree> Acoustyk:  System>Administration>System Monitor
[07:30] <Acoustyk> i never knew how to check that on ubuntu
[07:30] <laiya> NukeSkyjumper: how will that app help me ?
[07:30] <tijn> xmms2 is a client server modell?
[07:30] <Acoustyk> ok
[07:30] <XceII> interesting, mine has it
[07:30] <Lardarse> nickrud: umm... that sounds like a step backwards...
[07:30] <Prez00> what's the feedback coming in, generally good, bad, average?
[07:30] <NukeSkyjumper> laiya: that app lets you configure all of the window managing effects
[07:30] <ricree> Acoustyk: Also, the top comand line utility will do that
[07:30] <laiya> oh ok
[07:30] <prodigel> harriseldon: ok, so something freezes in gnome and I don't know why. I've waited for updates hoping it will be solved, but nothing. Now 8.04 was launched and I'm still having problems
[07:30] <nickrud> damo22 it's a command unto itself , /usr/bin/do-release-upgrade
[07:30] <r00723r0> I'm going to cry.
[07:30] <r00723r0> I just found the most beautiful theme ever but the matching icons won't work :(
[07:30] <WGGMk> I guess I can talk about Hardy in this channel now?????
[07:30] <r00723r0> Theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Brit?content=74553
[07:30] <timr92> why is evry1 havin probs after upgrading to 8.04
[07:30] <FloodBot2> r00723r0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <Lardarse> Prez00: generally good from the people who did clean installs, and bad from people who upgraded... go figure
[07:31] <r00723r0> Not flooding.
[07:31] <r00723r0> Icons: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/area+o.42+SVG+icon+theme?content=78259
[07:31] <pawbie> timr92: Planet alignment.
[07:31] <Acoustyk> ricree: ext3 has 8.3 gigs free
[07:31] <nickrud> Lardarse which does?
[07:31] <Prez00> Lardarse: great... i am looking to upgrade...
[07:31] <Wavesonics> Hi, i'm trying to enable my ATI proprietary driver and it says "Invalid xorg.conf"
[07:31] <Lardarse> Prez00: back up as much as you can
[07:31] <WGGMk> Is anyone else getting this systems asses handed to them by firefox3??? on hardy heron???
[07:31] <Lardarse> nickrud: <nickrud> tijn they replaced it with xmms2
[07:31] <Tweaker> HarrisEldon: I love you :D It worked, thanks man! I owe ya and this IRC
[07:32] <Prez00> Lardarse: guess I could clean install... got all my drive partitioned, /home is partition, so I guess I can go for clean reinstall
[07:32] <Acoustyk> ricree: cpu usage is at 40%
[07:32] <nickrud> Lardarse heh. I don't use either, just keep track of what changes
[07:32] <Halsafar> I have installed Ubuntu 8 on a machine that cannot get internet access, period.  I need to install packages via cdrom.  I used apt-cdrom add, apt-get update and the update always ignores the cdrom "Ign: cdrom://ubuntu" -- I have cleared the apt cache dir, even reinstalled the entire distro... same problem
[07:32] <ricree> Acoustyk: mostly firefox?
[07:32] <laiya> NukeSkyjumper: installed .... how do i configure it ??
[07:32] <NukeSkyjumper> laiya: open the app and look around, it's self explanatory
[07:32] <Tweaker> Alright Im out thanks for the help
[07:32] <nickrud> Wavesonics try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then try the restricted driver again
[07:32] <the_darkside_986> firefox3 isn't doing too much harm on Hardy but the whole system freezes momentarily everytime i open a GUI program. even the GDM login stutters badly. and startup time is miserable. I actually like firefox3 (finally, nice GTK2 form buttons)
[07:33] <damo22> Halsafar: try sudo apt-cdrom -m -d <mountpoint>
[07:33] <WGGMk> Halsafar: open up /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure it isnt commented out
[07:33] <Wavesonics> nickrud: aaww... I was trying to prove to my friend that linux has come far enough u dont have to use the command line to set things up, oh well
[07:33] <chronographer> Hi all. I have my new monitor working perfectly, except when I use the nvidia driver, I seem to be unable to get it to the correct refresh rate... Any suggestions?
[07:33] <laiya> NukeSkyjumper: where is the app ? im new to linux
[07:33] <Acoustyk> ricree: no it looks like xgl and gnome-do are more
[07:33] <NukeSkyjumper> laiya: System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Settings
[07:34] <nickrud> Wavesonics bite your tongue, if they took away the command line I'd move to something else
[07:34] <Wavesonics> hehe
[07:34] <Wavesonics> i do love the resolution/dual head tool :)
[07:34] <areels> i want to merge vob files and edit them, like adding watermark
[07:34] <Halsafar> I tried that damo22,apt-cdrom just listed its help menu...  Yes I checked sources.list, it is not commented out.
[07:34] <kakalto> does firefox seriously say "beta 5" when you have it open on 8.04?
[07:34] <Acoustyk> ricree: it spikes when firefox changes a page
[07:34] <areels> what do i need to do that?
[07:34] <eugenebythesea> kakalto: yes
[07:34] <Wavesonics> nickrud: ok i did it, now what
[07:34] <zelrikriando> ok I have compiz to fix now
[07:34] <psypher246> hey all, i need sum help getting ubuntu on the 2gb eee pc. how do i do a base install and build it up from there. i have the alternate cd  but no option for command line install. where to from here?
[07:34] <NukeSkyjumper> areels: watermarking requires one to have no soul, i believe
[07:34] <ezzieyguywuf> how can i detect the temperature on my t60p in hardy heron?
[07:34] <nickrud> kakalto yes, mozilla hasn't released the final yet
[07:35] <kakalto> okay, that's all. Just wanted to verify the insanity o_o
[07:35] <ricree> Acoustyk: Does the slowdown depend on how much javascript or flash is being used on the page?
[07:35] <nickrud> Wavesonics now try the driver manager tool again
[07:35] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: try running: acpi -V
[07:35] <pawbie> ezzieyguywuf: Touch it!
[07:35] <Wavesonics> nickrud, i did, doesn't work
[07:35] <XceII> ezzieyguywuf:  gkrellm
[07:35] <nickrud> Wavesonics same error?
[07:35] <ricree> Acoustyk: Also, how much free memory do you have?
[07:35] <kakalto> nickrud, eugenebythesea, do canonical plan on including ff3 final when it is released?
[07:35] <prodigel> harriseldon: can I find somewhere in logs info about this problems?
[07:35] <Wavesonics> nickrud: yes
[07:35] <chronographer> psypher: just install xubuntu
[07:35] <chronographer> its a pain in the arse to try command line installing
[07:35] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: i got some text but no temp reading
[07:35] <nickrud> Wavesonics hm, put a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:35] <creative> hi
[07:35] <luderacer> hi
[07:35] <nikitis> i need help with LVM and Grub.  I can't see my windows install.  Got switched somehow.
[07:35] <psypher246> chronographer: i know it is but how do u do it
[07:35] <areels> hi
[07:36] <Acoustyk> ricree: free swap memory? (and yes flash makes it worse but this page is all text and it slows it down still)
[07:36] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: then you must have no temperature sensors accessible via acpi
[07:36] <eugenebythesea> kakalto: i don't know.. sorry =)
[07:36] <zelrikriando> http://pastebin.com/m45855108
[07:36] <luderacer> i lub you all
[07:36] <areels>  i need something like ulead video studio
[07:36] <XceII> lub?
[07:36] <chronographer> er.. download an xubuntu live cd, or alternate cd
[07:36] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: it worked in gutsy thoughh. shoud I just reinstall lm-sensors?
[07:36] <luderacer> :)
[07:36] <nickrud> kakalto it'll be in backports for sure, and probably in main
[07:36] <XceII> lol
[07:36] <creative> how can i delete that stuff what hides flashes with a "play" button ??
[07:36] <nick_> just installed amarok all y music on another partiton when i go to import music that partition is not there
[07:36] <psypher246> how do you do a command line install with ubuntu hardy not xubuntu
[07:36] <ricree> Acoustyk: physical memory.  Should be on the left in the System monitor resources tab
[07:36] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: does 'sensors' no longer show it?
[07:36] <chronographer> if you do instlall to command line, type 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' i think
[07:37] <chronographer> psy: google it
[07:37] <Acoustyk> ricree: 7.1 gigs
[07:37] <ezzieyguywuf> dystopianray: what do you mean by 'sensors'?
[07:37] <NukeSkyjumper> creative: do you mean Noscript for firefox?
[07:37] <dystopianray> nick_: did you mount it?
[07:37] <dystopianray> ezzieyguywuf: 'sensors' the program
[07:37] <Wavesonics> nickrud: http://pastebin.com/d4cc3e9ad
[07:37] <psypher246> thanks for the help, not like i just spent 20 mins trying to google it
[07:37] <kakalto> is there a canonical channel? I'm awful confused as to why they've included beta5 (even labelled so, advertising beta-quality program) in their long-term ubuntu release, and yet fail to support any kubuntu as long-term.
[07:37] <creative> i dont know NukeSkyjumper...
[07:37] <syrus> any body have any luck upgrading
[07:37] <XceII> no script is the way to go.
[07:37] <ricree> Acoustyk:  Are you sure about that?
[07:37] <nick_> dystopianray: it's shws up on my desktop
[07:37] <creative> but i cannot see flashes, and i havent got any extensions intstalled
[07:37] <barmymatt> Hi all. Has anyone had any luck with keepassx in AMD64 version?...
[07:37] <Acoustyk> ricree: thats space on my hard drive
[07:38] <dystopianray> kakalto: i don't believe canonical has ever supported kubuntu, they only care about ubuntu
[07:38] <ricree> Acoustyk: what about the RAM
[07:38] <nick_> dystopianray: The partition shows up on my desktop
[07:38] <devin_> ricree i got the command i need to resize the terminal but how or what do i config to save it?
[07:38] <dystopianray> nick_: is it mounted?
[07:38] <psypher246> so since i have already tried googling it, is there anyone else willing to tell me how to do a command line install of ubuntu hardy
[07:38] <nick_> dystopianray:
[07:38] <nick_> dystopianray: how do i tell
[07:38] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: are you trying to upgrade from an older version?
[07:38] <syrus> get the alternative cd
[07:39] <Acoustyk> riceree: under memory and swap I have 2 gigs of mem with 369.2 megs being used
[07:39] <psypher246> got oit
[07:39] <psypher246> then what
[07:39] <dystopianray> dystopianray: right click on it on the desktop and see if the option is there to mount it
[07:39] <psypher246> fresh install
[07:39] <Wavesonics> nick_: http://pastebin.com/d4cc3e9ad
[07:39] <Acoustyk> ricree: and 0 bytes of swap
[07:39] <zenlunatic> anyone else having net speed issues in hardy?
[07:39] <steindani> Hi! I'm using U. 8.04, and Intel sound card. There's sound, but I can't control it's volume.
[07:39] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: you mean, install ubuntu without the gui installer?
[07:39] <chronographer> hey ZENLUN
[07:39] <up365> syrus, almost there after about 4-5 hrs, restart sys to upgrade
[07:39] <psypher246> YES
[07:39] <psypher246> no
[07:39] <syrus> tyes
[07:39] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: that's not a "command line install"
 no.. it's working better for me than gutsy
[07:39] <psypher246> i just want a command line installed
[07:39] <chronographer> I use a belkin card and my comp went real slow
[07:39] <nick_> wavesonics: ?
[07:39] <psypher246> no not the gui
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, you don't want a gui at all
[07:39] <seamus7> hi all ... must one use the alternate CD to upgrade via a CD/DVD?
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> seamus7, yes
[07:40] <psypher246> want MININMAL ubuntu installed and then build from there
[07:40] <chronographer> psypher: have you tried putting the disk in and seeing if it is listed as an option?
[07:40] <ricree> devin_: right click on the icon you use to open the terminal and click on properties.  One of the boxes will say command.  Add the --geometry argument you want to use after gnome-terminal in that box
[07:40] <psypher246> yes
[07:40] <zenlunatic> eugenebythesea: me too, but now its acting up my net is 6mb but only getting like 300k on speed test
[07:40] <psypher246> it's open right in from of me
[07:40] <psypher246> no option
[07:40] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: if you just install normally, you can ctrl-alt-F1 to get your console
[07:40] <Acoustyk> riceree: get that?
[07:40] <zenlunatic> eugenebythesea: disabled ipv6 and nothing
[07:40] <NukeSkyjumper> and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to take away the gui
[07:40] <nickrud> Wavesonics that's essentially identical to mine, except I have the synaptics touch pad config. You should file a bug. Try running   gksu -D /usr/share/applications/jockey-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/jockey-gtk , and adding the output of that and the copy of your xorg.conf to the report
[07:40] <psypher246> no guys i know how to get to a command line
[07:41] <julio_neto> is possible uptade my ubuntu 7.10 to ubuntu 8.04 by CD???
[07:41] <nick_> howcome abarok can't excess only the filesystem
[07:41] <osmosis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[07:41] <psypher246> all i want is to install ubuntu on a pc with 2GB hard drive and then add the packages from there that i need
[07:41] <dystopianray> nick_: is the partition mounted?
[07:41] <devin_> ricree got it. thanks for the help
[07:41] <ricree> Acoustyk: Then I'm not really sure what's up.  You might try seeing if it's a javascript issue, but it sounds like something other than firefox is causing the problem and I'm not sure what
[07:41] <ricree> devin_:  You're welcome
[07:41] <syrus> i dont thin u can unless u install server edition
 hm.. i can't think of some reasons.. did u try things like torrents n dwnload managers?
[07:41] <nickrud> julio_neto mostly, but you'll still need to get some packages from the net if you downloaded them during your gutsy run
[07:42] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: if the alternate disc doesn't have the option, and you know enough to do it, i'd almost say try installing debian but using ubuntu apt sources
[07:42] <Acoustyk> riceree: thanks then i appreciate your help
[07:42] <nickrud> julio_neto you'd need to use the alternate cd, as well
[07:42] <ricree> Acoustyk:  Sorry that I couldn't do more
[07:42] <chronographer> ﻿<zenlunatic> what type of network card do you have? if firefox is slow, try disabling ipv6
[07:42] <ProwL> psypher246:
[07:42] <Yodude> hey i'm on hardy and sound isn't working, although it works on GDM burt the minute i login it stops
[07:43] <munkie> psypher246, xubuntu works on a 2gb if this is for the eee
[07:43] <chronographer> Psy: just download the xubuntu CD
[07:43] <ProwL> psypher246: alternate installer cd does indeed have commandline install option, its just in a different place than previous releases. use one of the Fx keys to choose 'mode' and youll see the option
[07:43]  * nickrud remembers when 2gb whas freaking _huge_ ;(
[07:43] <psypher246> cool i'll try xubuntu although for what i need it for i would REALLY prefer gnome
[07:43] <nick_> dystopianray: yes
[07:43] <nikitis> Can someone help me figure out where my windows installation is so I can fix grub?
[07:43] <julio_neto> nickrud, no problem... So, how can i do it? How can I update 7.10 to 8.04' CD?
[07:43] <dystopianray> nick_: and yet amarok cannot access it?
[07:43] <psypher246> i really really lreally would rather do a mini,mal base install AS PRE GOOGLE but the option is not there
[07:44] <munkie> you can add gnome to xubuntu later psypher246
[07:44] <chronographer> xfce is great!
[07:44] <DracoZA> Can someone help me my machine crashed and now it seems my gnome is broken, the machine boots up I get startup sound but then the screen goes blank
[07:44] <nickrud> psypher246 gnome won't fit on that drive. not at all
[07:44] <Yodude> anyone knows how to fix sound ?
[07:44] <chronographer> gnome is only a little better!
[07:44] <Ziroday> nikitis: happy to :)
[07:44] <nickrud> psypher246 as handled by ubuntu, that is
[07:44] <timfrost> !alternate | ﻿julio_neto
[07:44] <ubotu> ﻿julio_neto: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[07:44] <NukeSkyjumper> psypher246: check and see if there's a boot option from the alternate disc
[07:44] <chronographer> PSY: ﻿psypher246: alternate installer cd does indeed have commandline install option, its just in a different place than previous releases. use one of the Fx keys to choose 'mode' and youll see the option
[07:44] <ProwL> :)
[07:45] <psypher246> AH HA!!
[07:45] <nickrud> julio_neto and after you get that alternate cd, just start it, it should offer to upgrade
[07:45] <julio_neto> wow this bot is very smart!
[07:45] <chronographer> !moo
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <julio_neto> nickrud, hmmm
[07:45] <Hans> Good morning!
[07:45] <saross0219> anyone good with getting the wireless to work on 8.04?
[07:45] <nikitis> Ziroday, ok, when i run fdisk -l i get sdc1 as the ntfs disk.  sda1 is /, sda2 is swap, sda3 and sdb1 is /home on an lvm.  Grub comes up and tries to load up root (hd2,0) but doesn't load up windows
[07:45] <chronographer> !tell ubotu apt-get moo
[07:45] <psypher246> thank you, thats all i wanted
[07:45] <DracoZA> Can someone help me and my gnome please :)
[07:46] <psypher246> where is the documentation for that?
[07:46] <`mIRC`> hi...
[07:46] <Hans> apt-get moo is the reason i switched to linux!
[07:46] <`mIRC`> i heard that ubuntu 8.04 is now released ...
[07:46] <chronographer> anyone new here tried apt-get moo?
[07:46] <KyleK> moo?
[07:46] <julio_neto> nickrud, soo, I'll need run it by ubuntu interface, or get bot with it?
[07:46] <Fa> yes
[07:46] <devin_> Night all .. Tc
[07:46] <dystopianray> `mIRC`: that's right
[07:46] <sleepster> what's new in 8.04
[07:46] <Fa> i just installed 8.04 today
[07:46] <Acoustyk> is it a pain in the ass to do a fresh install of ubuntu directly over top a partitioned ubuntu?
[07:46] <`mIRC`> i just wanna know that, are they fix GRUB??
[07:46] <chronographer> try it
 what's that do?
[07:46] <Hans> Yes, 8.04 is out since yesteerday...
[07:46] <chronographer> 'apt-get moo'
[07:46] <Hans> -e
[07:46] <dystopianray> `mIRC`: what was wrong with grub?
[07:46] <chronographer> =)
[07:46] <Wavesonics> ok, so i enabled the restricted ATI drivers
[07:46] <nick_> dystopianray: yes it can't
[07:46] <`mIRC`> i found grub error in ubuntu 7.10 many times
[07:47] <Wavesonics> and now the resolution app cant seem to detect my displays
[07:47] <chronographer> oh and the other one is 'aptitude moo'
[07:47] <Deathserver> if i install 8.04 will it change my drivers
[07:47] <munkie> awesome I didn't know the moo trick!
[07:47] <dystopianray> nick_: how are you determining this?
[07:47] <aubrac> The man page doesn't even mention that apt-get is missing its super cow powers.
[07:47] <ricree> `mIRC`:  like what, I  never had any problems
[07:47] <nikitis> Ziroday, Any suggestions?
[07:47] <AnRkey> Congrats to all the devs! You created an awesome release, I love it!
[07:47] <timfrost> ﻿julio_neto, nickrud, if you insert the alternate CD in a running ubuntu, it should bring up a dialog box that offers three choices - 1=do nothing, 2=run package manager, 3=run upgrade
[07:47] <chronographer> then you go 'aptitude moo'
[07:47] <seamus7> Anyone thinking of a fresh install of Hardy rather than the network upgrade?
[07:47] <AnRkey> Deathserver, yes
[07:47] <sjovan> any one know of a script to create torrents?
[07:47] <chronographer> ﻿u go 'aptitude -v moo'
[07:47] <Fa> 8.04 is the best so far
 `mIRC`:  like what, I  never had any problems -- sorry, i have 2 OS's
[07:47] <Ziroday> nikitis: oh sorry, erm can you pastebin fdisk -l please
[07:47] <julio_neto> ahhhhhhh
[07:47] <Hans> One Problem with Hardy i have: there is no sound.
[07:47] <chronographer> ﻿u go 'aptitude -v -v  moo'
[07:47] <Hans> Does anyone know a solution?
[07:47] <Deathserver> how can i get java installed painlessly i have been triny all day
[07:47] <chronographer> ﻿u go 'aptitude -v -v  -v moo'
[07:47] <julio_neto> THANK YOU very much... folks
[07:48] <AnRkey> seamus7, i did the network upgrade and it has now run fine on two of my computers
[07:48] <`mIRC`> and also...problem was it can't load NTFS file system
[07:48] <chronographer> ﻿﻿u go 'aptitude -v -v  -v -v moo'
[07:48] <DracoZA> Can someone help me my machine crashed and now it seems my gnome is broken, the machine boots up I get startup sound but then the screen goes blank
[07:48] <linxuz3r> how do i install 8600gt nvidia drivers?
[07:48] <dystopianray> Deathserver: do you need a particular version?
[07:48] <linxuz3r> !nvidia
[07:48] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:48] <Acoustyk> is it hard to do a fresh install of ubuntu over top of my partitioned Ubuntu disk?
[07:48] <chronographer> etc.
[07:48] <nikitis> Ziroday, http://rafb.net/p/T1pxzY18.html
[07:48] <Ziroday> Hans: alot of people have been complaining about that, do you have sound during the GDM screen?
[07:48] <Deathserver> the latest if possible
[07:48] <chronographer> its funny!
[07:48] <seamus7> Hans have you played with the volume control options/preferences and switched it around from ALSA / Pulse / etc. ?
[07:48] <AnRkey> seamus7, i used apt-proxy to save some bandwidth
[07:48] <ricree> `mIRC`: I've been dual booting windows since I first installed ubuntu without problems.  I wonder what happened on your system
[07:48] <yell0w> Deathserver: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[07:48] <Deathserver> does it matter which version
[07:48] <Hans> No, no xound during the gdm screen.
[07:48] <NukeSkyjumper> Acoustyk: you'll probably want to wipe out the old one, which is easy
[07:48] <dystopianray> Deathserver: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[07:48]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[07:48] <Hans> I tested Alsa, Pulse etc. but there is no sound.
[07:48] <munkie> a dead cow????
[07:49] <seamus7> AnRkey: I did a network upgrade and noticed some minor annoyances ... thinking of doing a fresh install
[07:49] <Mr> where exactly can I check pulseaudio?
[07:49] <Yodude> i have no sound too this is crazy
[07:49] <chronographer> Drakoza can you go "ctrl alt F1"
[07:49] <CommanderCool> since i have hardy heron i get an error when trying to mount a ntfs drive...can anyone help me?
[07:49] <Yodude> there must be a fix i can't live without music !
[07:49] <Hans> But i can wait. I think that it is good that many people haves the problem.
[07:49] <juning> ?
[07:49] <aubrac> linxuz3r: click System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers.
[07:49] <damo22> i want to use hardy cdrom as apt-source... i did apt-cdrom but apt-get update gives me : Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ ....
[07:49] <Wavesonics> I enabled my restricted ATI drivers and now the resolution app can't detect my monitors, why?
[07:49] <Hans> That ensures that there will come a fix...
[07:49] <AnRkey> seamus7, i am yet to download the iso's, the servers are very very busy
 i use 2 OS's ... windows and ubuntu ... and probelm i found was....it can't load NTFS filesystem ... and that cause error in boot
[07:49] <Ziroday> nikitis: I think it should be hd3,0
[07:49] <DracoZA> chronographer when I do that I get something that looks like an old ATARI display, I can boot into safe mode though and access a terminal
[07:49] <seamus7> Han have you made sure all the devices are checked so that you can make certain they're not muted?
[07:49] <Deathserver> this one  sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre or this one  sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[07:49] <Koheleth> I cant find the linux32 emulator in Heron!
[07:49] <sticksabuser> hey does anyone know whether additional older video cards have been blacklisted in hardy when it comes to enabling compiz?
[07:50] <nikitis> Ziroday, hd3?  i only have 3 drives, so 0, 1, and 2 would be 3 right?
[07:50] <dystopianray> Deathserver: openjdk-6-jre
[07:50] <chronographer> well try changing your xorg.conf
[07:50] <gharz> riqqa anyone?
[07:50] <Yodude> yeah all are unmuted, in fact sound works in GDM, but stops when i enter my account
[07:50] <seamus7> AnRkey: download an iso via bittorrent would circumvent any busy servers
[07:50] <Mr> generally how much times does it take for the big first updates ???
[07:50] <chronographer> try backing it up, then deleting it
[07:50] <Deathserver> what does that one do dysto
[07:50] <AnRkey> seamus7, i have a 3gb limit on my adsl
[07:50] <boeing> is there any way to install an i386 deb on my x86-64 system?
[07:50] <dystopianray> Deathserver: it's java 6
[07:50] <DracoZA> chronographer ive run reconfigure and checked xorg.conf manually it looks fine
[07:50] <AnRkey> seamus7, in south africa :(
[07:50] <`mIRC`> ...
[07:50] <NukeSkyjumper> boeing: dpkg --force-architecure file.deb
[07:50] <Deathserver> whats the different commands do
[07:51] <seamus7> AnRkey ohhhhhhh that would be bummer
[07:51] <jburd> How do I upgrade my installatino using the desktop cd?
[07:51] <chronographer> try booting without one, it works for me like that
[07:51] <damo22> i want to use hardy cdrom as apt-source... i did apt-cdrom but apt-get update gives me : Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ ....
[07:51] <boeing> NukeSkyjumper, it dint work
[07:51] <ricree> Mr: Took me most of today, although a torrent would likely be faster since the servers are swamped today
[07:51] <AnRkey> seamus7, i love my country, hate the telco company
[07:51] <Acoustyk> NukeSkyJumper: how do I wipe my old Ubuntu?
[07:51] <Deathserver> ive had three diff ones suggested
[07:51] <NukeSkyjumper> boeing: what did it do?
[07:51] <Ziroday> nikitis: ah sorry being daft yes, hd2,0
[07:51] <seamus7> AnRkey I see :)
[07:51] <jburd> I don't want it to delete my home directories and a few other directories
[07:51] <NukeSkyjumper> Acoustyk: there's probably an option to format partitions
 i use 2 OS's ... windows and ubuntu ... and probelm i found was....it can't load NTFS filesystem ... and that cause error in boot
[07:51] <Yodude> anyone heard of a sound fix ?!
[07:51] <dystopianray> Deathserver: the two commands you posted appear to be identical
[07:51] <nikitis> Ziroday, ok, well that's just it, it's set to hd2,0 but it won't load windows
[07:51] <Deathserver> im absolute noob thx for youre help
[07:51] <`mIRC`> and another problem i found was...grub error stage 1.5
[07:51] <boeing> NukeSkyjumper, it showed upgradation necessity of all my other installed packages
[07:52] <AnRkey> seamus7, we get more local bandwidth when our accounts are capped, so i am going to download it when i get capped from a local repos
[07:52] <Deathserver> but you suggest youres
[07:52] <ricree> `mIRC`: Can't really help you there, I've never had that sort of problem when I dual booted
[07:52] <CommanderCool> since i have hardy heron i get an error when trying to mount a ntfs drive...can anyone help me? "...version `FUSE_2.7' not found..."
[07:52] <boeing> to i386
[07:52] <Mr> ricree: oh, but I meant when will ubuntu send us the first updates for Heron, to fix some of the initial bugs?
 thanks mate ... :)
[07:52] <chronographer> mirc, you need to know what error number it is, 1.5 is the grub version I think.
[07:52] <nikitis> Ziroday, http://rafb.net/p/kKAg1C39.html  Here is my menu.lst entry
[07:52] <seamus7> AnRkey the alternate iso via bittorrent is only about 700MB
[07:52] <Ziroday> !grub | nikitis
[07:52] <ubotu> nikitis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:52] <`mIRC`> i just hope that they fix all that problems
[07:52] <dystopianray> Deathserver: openjdk should cause less problems overall with ubuntu, it is the new open source java
[07:52] <ricree> Mr: ah, missunderstood you.  I don't have any idea
[07:52] <Ziroday> nikitis: have a look at the links from ubotu
[07:53] <Deathserver> i created a sybolic link to a file in firefox plugins tring to install java manuly was that file already there
 i already fomat ubuntu 7.10 ...and waiting to install 8.04 ... :)
[07:53] <`mIRC`> just hope that they fix all that problems
[07:53] <pawbie> yay, 8.04
[07:53] <sticksabuser> so I'm having issues enabling compiz on my friend's older laptop, which worked fine with 7.10, but know is just not working... any advice of what I need to look at to hopefully figure out the issue?
[07:53] <pawbie> What a terrible experience that was.
[07:53] <advcomp2019> i wonder if anyone has good luck with hardy with the rtl8187b wifi card.. i had issues with in the last few version of ubuntu
[07:54] <artti> Does 32-bit Ubuntu will with AMD64?
[07:54] <sticksabuser> *now
[07:54] <`mIRC`> in the end i knew problem of can't load NTFS .... the cause was windows was corrupt :(
[07:54] <chronographer> if you deleted a partition with 7.1 on it, grub wont find menu.lst file and wont work.
[07:54] <NukeSkyjumper> artti: yes
[07:54] <Lardarse> nickrud: i find it ironic that while xmms has been removed, the plugins haven't
[07:54]  * jburd doesn't get an "upgrade dialog" when he inserts his ubuntu alternate disc
[07:54] <chronographer> lardares audacity is xmms
[07:54] <Deathserver> openjdk-6-jre that command is not found
[07:54] <`mIRC`>  <chronographer> ... i use fdisk /mbr
[07:54] <lucasmk> Lardarse, audacity is a better xmms
[07:55] <Lardarse> ...
[07:55] <tijn> but i like xmms
[07:55] <artti> I don't know. Should i install 64-bit Ubuntu or 32-but Ubuntu.
[07:55] <seamus7> ***jburd are you booting from the disc?
[07:55] <DracoZA> chronographer luckily I had a backup xorg.conf which I renamed and I can log in now
[07:55] <chronographer> great!
[07:55] <boeing> jburd, u are here?
[07:55] <dystopianray> artti: 32-bit
[07:55] <tijn> dont tell me its 'better'
[07:55] <`mIRC`> :)
[07:55] <eugenebythesea> hi - after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, i tried playing some avi files in totem - and it says: "failed to connect stream: invalid argument" - could someone advise? i'm on 8.04
[07:55] <chronographer> bloody xorg, I cant get mine to work with nvidia drivers activated
[07:55] <NukeSkyjumper> artti: expect a slight performance boost in 64bit, but with more trouble getting nonfree stuff like adobe products to work
[07:55] <Deathserver> how do i write in read dyno
[07:55] <chronographer> it gives the wrong refresh rate...
[07:55] <jburd> seamus7: No.  I'm just using the disc to upgrade my existing installation from within it
[07:55] <YAOMTC> I'm currently downloading a bunch of apps, thus can't access the package manager to check, so... It's possible to downgrade Firefox to v2, right?
[07:55] <jburd> boeing: Yeah hi.
[07:55] <Emof> So I upgraded to hardy and now my nvidia drivers don't work anymore...
[07:56] <AnRkey> seamus7, thats about a week's worth of my bandwidth :D
[07:56] <`mIRC`>  <chronographer> ... what do u think if i report those errors i found to develpoper team?
[07:56] <antibios> hey guys, I've just fresh installed 8.04 on my laptop.  I'm trying to configure twinview on my nvidia card and I can't find any information on it.  Is there a tool to use which will configure the desktop for me? Or do I have to edit Xorg.conf manually?
[07:56] <seamus7> AnRkey: I understand
[07:56] <chronographer> what errors?
[07:56] <jburd> seamus7: Can one also upgrade by booting from the disc?
[07:56] <boeing> jburd, what i meant in yesterday's conversation is that take for instance our friend, fspot crashes
[07:56] <seamus7> jburd my understanding is that you would need to boot into the alternate CD before getting the upgrade message ... I think
[07:56] <biabia> ok i am slightly less than happy with the way my hardy upgrade went. did I do harm to keep my old "/boot/grub/menu.1st"
 -- example....ubuntu can't load NTFS filesystem ... or else i found
[07:56] <artti> NukeSkyjumper, currenlty i have 32-bit Ubuntu on 64-bit and flash doesn't work.
[07:56] <jburd> I get the upgrade message on another machine just not this one
[07:56] <Ziroday> antibios: you can try the screen resolution utility or install the nvidia configuration app - sudo apt-get install nvidia-config
[07:56] <Wavesonics> ok. I got my ATI drivers working, but now my dual monitors wont work :( please help
[07:56] <lunchbox330> so i upgraded to hardy and turning on 3d windows crashes compiz now.
[07:57] <AnRkey> seamus7, our secondary operator is going to have it's international link by middle next year so there might be some hope for me yet :D
[07:57] <NukeSkyjumper> artti: if you're running 32bit ubuntu, it's not your cpu's fault
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !flash | artti
[07:57] <ubotu> artti: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:57] <antibios> ﻿Ziroday: E: Couldn't find package nvidia-config
[07:57] <Yodude> please this is urgent has anybody got any clue about fixing broken sound on hardy ?!?!?!
[07:57] <lunchbox330> yeah jburd alt disc will prompt for upgrade
[07:57] <Deathserver> dyno openjdk-6-jre didnt work the command dose not exist
[07:57] <syrus> i think ill wait to upgrade :)
[07:57] <Ziroday> antibios: gimme a sec
[07:57] <boeing> jburd, in that case the "safe/silent" distros are capable of terminating X and we dont need to reboot
[07:57] <jburd> lunchbox330: when I boot from it?
[07:57] <Koheleth> Guys can I install the 32 bit version over the 64 bit I installed, I am having problems with popular programs all the time
[07:57] <boeing> jburd, the keyboard continues to work
[07:57] <CommanderCool> since i have hardy heron i get an error when trying to mount a ntfs drive...can anyone help me? "...version `FUSE_2.7' not found..."
[07:57] <NukeSkyjumper> Yodude: calm down. there could be a lot of reasons for that
[07:58] <sticksabuser> !compiz
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[07:58] <Ziroday> antibios: sorry sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[07:58] <lunchbox330> jburd nope just stick it in the drive.
[07:58] <seamus7> AnRkey I'm on a slow DSL connection .. hoping to upgrade to a faster connection sometime soon ... currently max out at 400 KB/s
[07:58] <ferris_> hello, so after i upgraded to 8.04 I no longer have wifi... that kind of sucks
[07:58] <dystopianray> Koheleth: you'll have to do a reinstall
[07:58] <XceII> antibios: nvidia settings plugin
[07:58] <pawbie> CommanderCool: Synaptic.  Find fuse.  Install.
[07:58] <reeeh2000> Woot! Hardy Rocks! Good Job
[07:58] <Yodude> NukeSkyjumper: i know but sadly i hardy know many of them
[07:58] <eugenebythesea> anyone familiar with this error from totem: "failed to connect stream: invalid argument"?
[07:58] <Koheleth> ok, will it do all the formating itself etc
[07:58] <jburd> lunchbox330: yeah but that doesn't happen on the computer I'm using.  if I'm already running ubuntu and I insert it on another machine, it does show me an upgrade dialog
[07:58] <CommanderCool> pawbie: it is, it even worked before
[07:58] <`mIRC`> i found some idiot said....he can hacked 127.0.0.1
[07:58] <advcomp2019> ferris_, what wifi card is it?
[07:58] <Yodude> NukeSkyjumper: what do you think i should do to fix it ?
[07:58] <AnRkey> seamus7, 384k/128k here for me :(
[07:58] <YAOMTC> ﻿I'm currently downloading a bunch of apps, thus can't access the package manager to check, so... It's possible to downgrade Firefox to v2, right?
[07:58] <NukeSkyjumper> Yodude: search ubuntuforums.org
[07:58] <Yodude> ok
[07:58] <ferris_> broadcom
[07:58] <Emof> After upgrading to hardy my nvidia drivers don't work anymore. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[07:58] <Ziroday> `mIRC`: offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:59] <pawbie> CommanderCool: Reinstall?
[07:59] <XceII> lol mirc
[07:59] <boeing> jburd, whereas the mentioned distros to be ungraceful in termination (i am not technical in "ungraceful") hang with everything including the keyboard hung.
[07:59] <NukeSkyjumper> !sound | Yodude
[07:59] <ubotu> Yodude: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:59] <jburd> YAOMTC: you can have both installed
[07:59] <Ziroday> YAOMTC: correct, install the firefox-2 package
[07:59] <seamus7> AnRkey my upload is very limited   40/k max
[07:59] <YAOMTC> Thanks guys
[07:59] <pawbie> Screw broadcom.
[07:59] <pawbie> Aight, 'night ubuntu peoples
[07:59] <`mIRC`> Ziroday> --- i already in that chan.
[07:59] <gharz> guys, i'm having problem with my openoffice database... i always get an error saying: openoffice requires JRE to perform this task... but my JRE is working ... tested it using test java on the web. any idea?
[07:59] <AnRkey> seamus7, thats my download here
[07:59] <AnRkey> seamus7, 10k up if i am lucky
[07:59] <jerzyk86> hi, when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 after when i choose run or install ubuntu for a sec my display is turn off, i am weaiting becouse cd rom is stil copy files but display never is turn on. I have mothebord with integrathed graphics but i have in pciexpress grf 8800gt. By integrated graphisc its works - i nstall ubuntu on itegrated graph and after i plug my gf, but its still turn opff my display when i try to run ubuntu. Any idea howto rep
[08:00] <ferris_> pawbie.... not much choice... it is in a laptop
[08:00] <seamus7> AnRkey ouch!
[08:00] <lunchbox330> anyone got 3d windows working on an intel chipset yet?
[08:00] <dystopianray> gharz: install this package: openoffice.org-java-common
[08:00] <Wavesonics> can anyone here help me get dual monitors working w\ my ATI card?
[08:00] <reeeh2000> hey, are the servers just swamped right now b/c of Hardy's release?  I'm getting really slow speeds on package downloads rightnow
[08:00] <antibios> ﻿Ziroday: thanks dude... the screen resolution only detects the built in screen.  The nvidia-settings worked a treat.  Thank you very much!
[08:00] <nikitis> Ziroday, that grub info doesn't help me
[08:00] <Ziroday> antibios: no problem, had the same issues myself
[08:00] <AnRkey> seamus7, i can go bigger then it's twice the price
[08:00] <dystopianray> reeeh2000: they are being used heavily so expect them to be slow
[08:00] <jburd> boeing: do you have a broadcom card by any chance?
[08:01] <nikitis> Ziroday, in my case, grub is booting, but does not point correctly to the windows partition or maybe it does, but needs some other command to boot it.
[08:01] <biabia> did i screw up keeping my old 'menu.1st' when i upgrades to hardy
[08:01] <jburd> those are the most stupid pieces of sh*t I've had to deal with
[08:01] <Deathserver> none of the commands to get java have worked
[08:01] <Ziroday> nikitis: eh?, I thought those links had a method to reconfigure grub and therefore rescan for other OS's
[08:01] <prodigel> Hi. I've just uninstalled all that's linked with gnome in a attempt to reinstall it(due to frequent crashes). How can I install it back?
[08:01] <AnRkey> seamus7, this line costs me about $50 USD
[08:01] <reeeh2000> Dystopianray: Yeah, thats what I figured, I guess in a way its good.  Lots of people using ubuntu
[08:01] <dystopianray> reeeh2000: you can always use a different mirror
[08:01] <reeeh2000> true
[08:02] <seamus7> AnRkey: you pay that much for so little!
[08:02] <Deathserver> is there a way i can back up my wifi drivers and easil install them on the new release
[08:02] <AnRkey> seamus7, yes, sadly so
[08:02] <spider_> hi, is there any way to ask the system to reload my .bashrc without logging off from the system or wihtout closing the console i am working right at this moment?
[08:02] <Hans> Okay, i wait for the fix for sound and my laptop will play all nessesary sounds (for presentation etc.)
[08:02] <arj> spider_: .
[08:02] <Yodude> hans: i have the sound nightmare too
[08:03] <jburd> bleh upgrades have never worked for me
[08:03] <Hans> Welcome to the club! ;-)
[08:03] <jburd> and they never will I suppose
[08:03] <advcomp2019> I have the realtek rtl8187b wifi card and i just wonder if hardy works better with that card before i upgrade it because the last few versions had big issues so i hope it works better
[08:03] <jburd> and I can't keep doing clean installs all the time on multiple machines
[08:03] <AnRkey> seamus7, if i want more data once i am capped i have to pay another $30 USD for another 3gb
[08:03] <spider_> arj:  i tried it like this ". .bashrc" but it doesnt seems like it reloaded my .bashrc
[08:03] <Deathserver> whats new in the new rlease and should i change
[08:03] <artti> Downloading .iso file is slow.
[08:03] <up365> successful upgrade on 1 box, lost nvidia display settings until I installed nvidia X server settings and other than loss of google toolbar-not compatible with Firefox3,beta5 everything is good
[08:04] <ferris_> yeah, if i can get my wifi hardy will be worth keeping
[08:04] <icesword> Deathserver, http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[08:04] <jburd> upgrading from the cd NEVER works.
[08:04] <jawnv6> I have the live cd running, I know i have two hdd's in the system, one formatted, one not, how do I format the blank one?
[08:04] <Yodude> hey i got sound working !!!! but with alsa not pulseaudo, the problem must have been pulseaudio
[08:04] <neeto> Is there anyone in here that lost their 3d-windows/wallpaper plugin compatibility on compiz with their upgrade? Does anyone have a workaround?
[08:04] <gharz> dystopianray: i checked my synaptic and openoffice.org-java-common is already installed.
[08:04] <biabia> none of my firefox extensions were compatible
[08:04] <Yodude> maybe pulseaudio doesn't support all kinds of soundcards ?
[08:04] <Deathserver> thanks, still need help with getting java installed
[08:05] <biabia> i wish the upgrade gave the option of upgrading firefox
[08:05] <biabia> i woulda said no
[08:05] <dystopianray> gharz: in openoffie's configuration have you set a jre for it to use?
[08:06] <neeto> biabia: try the MR Tech Local Install plugin, you can disable compatibility checks, and then you can use your non-compatible plugins (no guarantees on how they will work though)
[08:06] <Moc> Can't get Both Screen to work !!
[08:06] <gord> jburd: dont BOTT the alternate to use as upgrade, just insert it into a ruinning system, then u get dialog box asking if u want packages upgraded (it auto-recognises u see)
[08:06] <gord> boot''
[08:06] <jburd> gord: even that fails.
[08:06] <biabia> neeto ok thanks ill check that out.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Moc, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:07] <gord> jburd: hmm
[08:07] <jburd> cannot resolve "xxxxxx" packages at this time.  please try later.
[08:07] <AnRkey> i have removed tracker and tracker-applet
[08:07] <GIn> I have no sound with my media players when firefox is playing a flash movie. why?
[08:07] <jburd> that is not a message an end user would like to see.
[08:07] <AnRkey> but my drive keeps trashing
[08:07] <AnRkey> how can i turn indexing off?
[08:07] <gharz> dystopianray: yes... under Tools->Options->OpenOffice.Org->Java ... have 3 java avail... 2 from Sun and 1 from Free Software Foundation... i ticked the radio button Sun Micro Inc. 1.6.0
[08:07] <Moc> 8.04
[08:07] <jburd> that happens when you choose not to use the network
[08:07] <boeing> jburd, i have a via card.
[08:07] <dystopianray> gharz: what does it say when you run: java -version ?
[08:07] <Moc> worked fine in 6.10 with nvidia firmware
[08:07] <gharz> dystopianray: i've rebooted my machine... logged out .. .restarted OO...
[08:07] <tparcina> hi channel!
[08:08] <Acoustyk> hi thar!
[08:08] <biabia> I get an error now:  Error "vm.mmap_ap_min_addr is an unknown key"      fail    when my system does the checks on boot
[08:08] <tparcina> where can I find Ubuntu 8.04 i386 MD5SUM?
[08:08] <reeeh2000> Hey, which is the best plugin for flash on firefox?
[08:08] <dystopianray> reeeh2000: flashplugin-nonfree
[08:08] <GIn> flash on linux is crap :(
[08:08] <dny> err
[08:08] <dny> my sound keeps going out :/
[08:09] <boeing> reeeh2000, dint you get the popup when flash loaded first time to install flash?
[08:09] <gord> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[08:09] <jburd> and why the heck does an upgrade restart have to fetch all the necessary files *again* from the internet?
[08:09] <boeing> the package which installs works perfect.
[08:09] <Jordan_U> GIn, Hardy uses PulseAudio by default but Adobe's flash plugin doesn't play well with pulseaudio, if you want to solve the problem of not being able to use flash and other things at once install libflashsupport but that may lead lash to be less stable
[08:09] <reeeh2000> boing: i did, it list several choices
[08:09] <gharz> dystopianray: java version "1.6.0_06 Java (TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_6-b02)
[08:09] <Deathserver> if i check the java version with java -version it says its the latest build but if i go to browser and enter about:plugins it isnt listed
[08:09] <boeing> jburd, i recommended u not to use that *upgrade* option.
[08:09] <reeeh2000> boeing: iv had problems on 7.10 with opening to full screen
[08:10] <dny> is there a command to restart alsa?
[08:10] <jburd> boeing: I have so many machines here.  I'm not crazy to do claen installs on all of them.
[08:10] <GIn> Jordan_U: is libflashsupport the free flash alternative?
[08:10] <tparcina> gord: I can't open that web page - time out :(
[08:10] <boeing> reeeh2000, use the adobe-flash plugin
[08:10] <jburd> upgrades networkless or networked should be PAINLESS not PAINFUL.
[08:10] <Jordan_U> GIn, No, it's a pulseaudio plugin specifically for nonfree flash
[08:10] <reeeh2000> boeing: ok, i just hate using adobes stuff is all, thabks
[08:10] <boeing> boeing, get the cd and insert. then upgrade feasibility will be listed immediately
[08:10] <neeto> firefox keeps dying on me even though it thinks that all my plugins are compatible
[08:10] <neeto> what gives
[08:10] <jeanre> anyone here run compiz fusion?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Moc, How did you install the nvidia drivers?
[08:11] <boeing> jburd, , get the cd and insert. then upgrade feasibility will be listed immediately
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !anyone | jeanre
[08:11] <ubotu> jeanre: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:11] <neeto> jeanre: yeah, I've been having problems since my 8.04 upgrade...
[08:11] <GIn> Jordan_U: but Pulseaudio is not in a stable state itself :(
[08:11] <jburd> boeing: I'm talking about that very same thing.  it rarely works.
[08:11] <cham_eleon> any ideas why my ide hdd isn't recognized by the hardy kernel? my sata devices are working.
[08:11] <tparcina> ubuntu 8.04 i386 MD5SUM, where can I get it? http://releases.ubuntu.com times out for me :(
[08:11] <`mIRC`> what is the different btw KDE and GNOME?
[08:11] <Deathserver> how can i test my java
[08:11] <GIn> wonder why ubuntu included such an important piece of software in beta state in the OS
[08:11] <jburd> ubuntu should start paying attention to the installation process more than adding tons of new features.  make that robust first.
[08:11] <Jordan_U> GIn, Pulseaudio is stable, it's just that the pulseaudio plugin for flash can cause flash to crash
[08:11] <boeing> jburd, remove all internet links in /etc/apt(?)
[08:11] <nick_> whats a good burning program
[08:11] <jawnv6> how do I get a list of the different SDA devices attached?
[08:12] <Deathserver> terminal says it is there but i doubt it
[08:12] <boeing> nick_, k3b
[08:12] <DJones> nick_: k3b or gnomebaker are normally pretty good
[08:12] <neeto> `mIRC`: In my humble opninion KDE is an ugly piece of crap that looks like a bargain bin windows knock off, and gnome is an original and beautiful piece of interface glory... but that's just me
[08:12] <Moc> Jordan_U: the one what is provided by ubuntu, I installed it once manually with partial result (Main screen blinked) but after a reboot, xorg bumped it to vesa
[08:12] <jeanre> neeto: I have n o themes in the emerald manager
[08:12] <boeing> nick_, the default gnome creator has *burnt* my cd
[08:12] <jburd> boeing: that's not my idea of painless
[08:12] <neeto> jeanre: did you used to?
[08:12] <dny> is there a command to restart alsa?
[08:12] <eugenebythesea> um, does anyone have any issues playing video in totem? i can play flash, music etc, but no video. get this error: "failed to connect stream: invalid argument"
[08:13] <jawnv6> formata sata ubuntu
[08:13] <Moc> installing nvidia-setting rightnow from repo, will see if it work
[08:13] <tparcina> come on guys, someone must have MD5SUM of ubuntu 8.04 i386
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Moc, Installing it manually may have broken the packaged drivers
[08:13] <jawnv6> :( wrong keyboard
[08:13] <`mIRC`> neeto: so means you prefer pure ubuntu rather than kubuntu?
[08:13] <please> hi
[08:13] <Moc> Jordan_U: It why I reinstalled it complely, fresh install
[08:13] <please> anyone here to help
[08:13] <jeanre> neeto: no this a is a new install
[08:13] <please> really need help
[08:13] <DJones> !ask | please
[08:13] <ubotu> please: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:13] <gord> 7d0ac92c56361949d099dd9337c975e7 *ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso,166991d61e7c79a452b604f0d25d07f9 *ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso,fc43f665ba51c4be0d95c011aefef45d *ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso,8895167a794c5d8dedcc312fc62f1f1f *ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso,8a73cf85b04f37d5d91fb436525ea395 *ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso,c3162b21757746c64a0a22cdd060b164 *ubuntu-8.04-server-i386.iso
[08:14] <please> ok
[08:14] <Jordan_U> tparcina, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/MD5SUMS
[08:14] <please> im new new new to ubuntu
[08:14] <boeing> so>?
[08:14] <tparcina> gord: thank you! :)
[08:14] <please> installed it last night was amazed by it
[08:14] <Wavesonics> how do i get the open source ATI drivers?
[08:14] <please> and then eventually the machine hanged
[08:14] <boeing> have fun!
[08:14] <boeing> sorry
[08:14] <tparcina> Jordan_U: can't open that page - time out :(
[08:14] <please> i pushed the power button
[08:14] <jburd> lol
[08:14] <please> and restart
[08:14] <tparcina> Jordan_U: I guess it's to bussy today :)
[08:14] <please> Error 16 : inconsistent ....
[08:14] <please> file structure
[08:15] <please> something like this
[08:15] <jburd> I think I'll better get the dvd instead
[08:15] <gord> Jordan_U: was getting endless timouts on the web page so i posted, baybe someone could pling-bot it?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Wavesonics, They come installed by default, to use them change the driver from "fglrx" to "ati"
[08:15] <gharz> dystopianray: any idea what's causing this error?
[08:15] <gord> maybe'
[08:15] <boeing> jburd, are dvd s out as yet?
[08:15] <dystopianray> gharz: no, sorry
[08:15] <Deiz> So, as with every time I install Ubuntu, windows maximize to both my monitors instead of one. Is there a workaround? I recall with 7.04 I got lucky after a reboot and it started working properly.
[08:15] <gharz> dystopianray: thanks!
[08:15] <jburd> boeing: yeah sure I have the torrents
[08:15] <Deathserver> i install java 6 through the missing plugin popup the go to java install and it says OOPS yo dont have the <RECOMENDED> version installed is it a big deal?
[08:15] <Moc> rebooting and will see if it work fine this time
[08:15] <please> any idea ?
[08:15] <Wavesonics> Jordan_U: do they enable 3d acceleration?
[08:15] <boeing> jburd, can u send the x86_64 as file?
[08:16] <ferris_> please, which version?
[08:16] <please> Error 16 inconsistent ...... tried everything
[08:16] <jburd> boeing: sure
[08:16] <please> 8.04
[08:16] <biabia> Hardy upgrade resulted in an error now on boot:  Error "vm.mmap_ap_min_addr is an unknown key"      fail     --any idea how to fix?
[08:16] <Yodude> hey i have a sound FIX EVERYONE !
[08:16] <neeto> Yodude: what's that?
[08:16] <boeing> please, reinstall for now. it would be painless
[08:16] <please> and i just used live cd to come to ubuntu and chat and get help
[08:16] <Jordan_U> Wavesonics, Unless you have an old card you are more likely to get 3D acceleration from the proprietary drivers ( unfortunately )
[08:16] <please> how about my setting
[08:16] <please> my files
[08:16] <please> ?
[08:16] <Yodude> evryone go into the multimedia systems selector and select alsa and the proper cards, and go into the sound setting (Ssystem-pref-sound) and select the card itself for sound
[08:16] <ferris_> please, you probably want to reinstall
[08:17] <Yodude> but honestly people PulseAudio is CRAP
[08:17] <Wavesonics> Jordan_U: but the damn proprietary ones don't work with the nice GUI resoltuon tool lol
[08:17] <boeing> jburd, thank u
[08:17] <please> so no one has experienced this error before ?
[08:17] <ferris_> please, it will be much less stressful than trying to fix your existing problems
[08:17] <jburd> boeing: sure
[08:17] <please> is it
[08:18] <please> so i have to reinstall ubuntu every 2-3 days right ?
[08:18] <ferris_> powering off is not a good idea
[08:18] <please> cause i just installed it yesterday
[08:18] <boeing> please, no.
[08:18] <please> and one more thing which may help
[08:18] <please> the partition is FAT
[08:19] <boeing> please, just ensure that u install motherboard drivers before installing the final system. so as a newbie you will face less pain
[08:19] <please> the recovery is not working as well
[08:19] <boeing> please, ah!
[08:19] <boeing> please, fat is a doomed fs.
[08:19] <raj1> ok how do i know iam on final hardy
[08:19] <Deathserver> i guess my java is fine java game is playing
[08:19] <please> ok so tell me please what to do
[08:19] <raj1> grub says development
[08:19] <please> step by step
[08:19] <please> so FAT is not good
[08:19] <Kirby> Is there a firewall in Kubuntu?
[08:19] <boeing> please, u could have selected the default ext3 during installation
[08:19] <ferris_> please, go with ext3
[08:20] <please> ok
[08:20] <jburd> I have one question
[08:20] <Kr0ntab> !ufw | Kirby
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Kr0ntab> doh
[08:20] <please> cause i just installed it from windows
[08:20] <jburd> can I pop in the desktop cd and then boot with it to upgrade with it?
[08:20] <jburd> without deleting my home directory
[08:20] <please> what did you mean by motherboard driver
[08:20] <please> there is no driver
[08:20] <please> i just downloaded ubuntu and it says the drivers are included
[08:20] <Flannel> jburd: If you have home on a separate partition, yes.  Otherwise no, the Desktop CD can only be used to install, not upgrade.
[08:20] <boeing> so please has shown how wulluby(am i right with the name?) can go wrong in certain circumstances
[08:21] <raj1> there is no such thing as motherboard drivers in ubuntu
[08:21] <boeing> fat is a bad thing.
[08:21] <raj1> ?
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> Kirby: see ufw....  included by default... very simple to enable basic firewall.
[08:21] <gord> boing: wubi
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> Heya Flannel ... how ya doin man
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> boeing, wubi, and it would be a shorter list if we listed ways it couldn't go wrong
[08:21] <boeing> raj1, i mean motherboard-based drivers. eg. proprietry gphx drivers(if any), etc.
[08:21] <Kirby> Kr0ntab: can I use 'learning mode' in it so that it doesn't allow any connections
[08:21] <raj1> oh ok
[08:22] <raj1> mmm like nvidia nforce
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> that is purely opinion though,
[08:22] <nikitis> I still need help with mapping my windows bootloader in grub.  I keep getting an error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format error
[08:22] <biabia> when i upgraded I didnt upgrade my menu.1st i kept the old one. is there a way I can upgrade just that file now? or could someone pastebin it from the new hardy, unmodified
[08:22] <kindofabuzz> will someone DCC the i386 alt torrent to me?
[08:22] <boeing> Daisuke_Ido, that should be listed to M$ as fat is their baby and it does nt have journaling, which would actually have saved please
[08:22] <Flannel> biabia: `sudo update-grub` ought to do it
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> ufw by default blocks all inbound ... and you have the ability to add rules as you see fit...
[08:22] <please> for the last time i say this and if no one can help im going to reinstall ubuntu
[08:23] <jburd> kindofabuzz: there
[08:23] <biabia> flannel thankie!
[08:23] <raj1> please:
[08:23] <kindofabuzz> damn try again
[08:23] <boeing> please, can u please change ur nick? it is creating ambiguity here!
[08:23] <Deathserver> how do i update my menus with ne apps i have installed
[08:23] <please> Has anyone ever experienced this error boot error .... error16: inconsistent file structure ????
[08:23] <please> and if not
[08:23] <boeing> please, dont use that wubi capability
[08:23] <please> i have to reinstall it
[08:23] <nikitis> Anyone?
[08:23] <boeing> please, wait, please
[08:23] <tomasko> what kind of childish nonsense goes on in here? how did so many people get kicked out nearly 18 hours ago?
[08:24] <tomasko> anyway, hardy is out. cheers :)
[08:24] <Jordan_U> please, Is windows failing to boot or just wubi?
[08:24] <lekro> how can I enable ethernet in runlevel 1 on hardy so that I have internet access?
[08:24] <Flannel> tomasko: You're referring to #ubuntu+1, everyone got kicked out of there, because Intrepid isn't open yet.
[08:24] <kindofabuzz> jburd; i had to give it a name to save for some reason, what's the actual name of that?
[08:24] <please> i just pressed the power button because ubuntu hanged
[08:24] <tomasko> oh yeah, #ubuntu+1
[08:24] <ishbibenob> does anyone know why my CD/DVD writer would only write and recognize DVDs in gutsy
[08:24] <jburd> ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[08:24] <Deathserver> any help on updateing menu's
[08:24] <boeing> the main problem is that wubi is interfering with an another os's partition without changing its structure.
[08:25] <please> and restareted and couldnt get to to ubuntu
[08:25] <evand> please: if you installed using Wubi, run chkdsk in Windows (start -> run -> cmd -> chkdsk /f /r) if that doesn't work, please please file a bug at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug
[08:25] <kindofabuzz> jburd: thanks buddie
[08:25] <jhoc2x> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:25] <boeing> this is recognised as an inconsistency in windows.
[08:25] <Prez00> 300MB down, 400MB to go..
[08:25] <please> can i run checkdisk in ubuntu as well
[08:25] <Turski> why there are no translation packages in firefox3?
[08:25] <please> cause im in ubuntu now
[08:25] <please> using live cd
[08:26] <evand> please: no, you cannot
[08:26] <jburd> please: man fsck
[08:26] <boeing> please, please join #wubi-ubuntu to be more focussed with this problem
[08:26] <boeing> a guy there is ready to help u
[08:26] <raj1> yes fsck
[08:26] <please> ok
[08:26] <please> so i will go to windows
[08:26] <please> cmd
[08:26] <please> and then type what ?
[08:26] <FloodBot2> please: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <jburd> please: not the windows cmd
[08:26] <snask> how do i add a extra language on my cui based server?
[08:26] <evand> please: chkdsk /F /R
[08:26] <boeing> please, join #wubi-ubuntu
[08:26] <please> sorry
[08:26] <evand> err
[08:26] <evand> please: chkdsk C: /F /R
[08:27] <please> Evand exactly the same thing as you wrote right ?
[08:27] <raj1> oh he has wubi related issue
[08:27] <raj1> hmm
[08:27] <nikitis> I need help mapping a windows partition to grub.  for some reason it should boot the windows partion but grub won't do it.  I need help with syntax for the grub options.
[08:27] <linxuz3r> hey how do i enable direct rendering in hardy heron
[08:27] <evand> please: yes, open up the command prompt and type exactly that
[08:27] <please> ok cheers mate
[08:28] <evand> please: then hit Y when it asks you
[08:28] <Ziroday> How do I get pidgin and thunderbird to open hyperlinks in firefox
[08:28] <evand> please: and then reboot into windows once
[08:28] <please> ok
[08:28] <evand> please: then reboot into ubuntu
[08:28] <gord> please:   there is a specifoc channel for your problems, its #wubi-ubuntu,  also i beg you not to use the nickname "please", as it causes lots of confusion
[08:28] <Flannel> nikitis: Not mapping, just booting?  What are you having problems with? (generally its a good idea to just state your problem to begin with)
[08:28] <Wavesonics> :( :( :(
[08:28] <XceII> lopl
[08:28] <please> ok
[08:28] <boeing> evand, he is unable to boot into his system. how will he do this cmd work?
[08:28] <Wavesonics> they more i try to fix my video, the more screwed up it gets
[08:28] <icesword> hey, what is up Wavesonics
[08:28] <lekro> when I already have 8.04 RC installed, is there any point in reinstalling with the 8.04 release or can I just use the normal package updates?
[08:28] <KyleK>  /nick please help me ;)
[08:28] <iusegnulinux> hi, where can i find luxi sans font? thanks
[08:28] <dubby> are the servers still being DDoSed ((legitimately of course)
[08:28] <Ziroday> lekro: read the topic
[08:28] <nikitis> Flannel: I have an unusual harddrive setup.  i can boot linux fine, but when i go to boot wiindows XP it gives me an error 13
[08:28] <Flannel> lekro: just regular updates.
[08:29] <evand> boeing: he cannot get into Windows?  I missed that part.
[08:29] <boeing> yes
[08:29] <Jordan_U> boeing, He is only unable to boot Ubuntu
[08:29] <Ziroday> dubby: yes, use the torrents
[08:29] <nikitis> Flannel: from grub that is
[08:29] <icesword> iusegnulinux, lucida fonts? --------->google
[08:29] <lekro> Ziroday: oh, sorry
[08:29] <Emof> I upgraded to Hardy and now suddenly my nvidia drivers don't work anymore. Anyone knows how to fix this?
[08:29] <lekro> thanks
[08:29] <linxuz3r> hey how do i enable direct rendering in hardy heron
[08:29] <iusegnulinux> luxi fonts
[08:29] <Flannel> nikitis: Try going in ad changing it from root [whatever] to rootnoverify [whatever] for your windows option
[08:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Emof, reinstall from the repos
[08:29] <Wavesonics> I had dual monitors working with the default ATI drivers, then I couldnt do 3D desktop, so i installed the proprietary drivers, then I couldnt do dual monitor, so i went back to the default drivers, and now nothing works.
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Emof, How did you install them?
[08:29] <icesword> !find luxi fonts
[08:29] <raj1> nikitis:try recovery mode?
[08:29] <ubotu> No packages matching 'luxi' could be found
[08:30] <Emof> I've tried uninstalling and installing again with envy, but that didn't work
[08:30] <Ziroday> !envy | Emof
[08:30] <ubotu> Emof: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[08:30] <nikitis> Flannel: I still get an error 13
[08:30] <Jordan_U> Wavesonics, I believe you have to actually remove fglrx ( the proprietary drivers ) because they are evil and mess up the open source ones
[08:30] <iusegnulinux> boot to ubuntu and repair grub
[08:30] <Emof> yeah, but I've tried with the normal drivers too
[08:30] <Emof> didn't work either
[08:30] <ilMacchia> hello
[08:30] <nikitis> raj1: no not sure how
[08:31] <latitu> i have hp deskjet 3900 printer. how can i see ink levels and have some advanced configs and printing quality levels . like in windows?
[08:31] <Flannel> nikitis: alright, pastebin your menu.lst, and the output of fdisk -l (that's an L), and I'll take a look.
[08:31] <boeing> please, remove ubuntu from windows first.
[08:31] <nikitis> I have 3 harddrives, with windows being on hd2,0
[08:31] <marvxxx> i do a upgrade with the ubuntu alternate cd...still it wants to download 400 packages :(
[08:31] <raj1> from grub menu
[08:31] <iusegnulinux> may be your windows partition is not the active partition anymore
[08:31] <raj1> ok can someone tell me about pastebin
[08:32] <Flannel> !paste | raj1
[08:32] <ubotu> raj1: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:32] <nikitis> Flannel: ok, give me a moment to boot it up
[08:32] <mosno> marvxxx, all the new versions of the extra software you installed!
[08:32] <jeanre> where does one get emerald themes?
[08:32] <marvxxx> mosno: makes sense
[08:32] <Wavesonics> Jordan_U, I searched for fglrx in synaptic, and i dont see which i should remove
[08:33] <latitu> i have hp deskjet 3900 printer. how can i see ink levels and have some advanced configs and printing quality levels . like in windows?
[08:33] <marvxxx> im just behind a slow connection
[08:33] <foraoh> hi, does anyone know a good theme for firefox beta 3?
[08:33] <marvxxx> thats the only problem
[08:33] <Zloog> Hi, did something change in 8.04 to make it so that my samba share settings arent saved in /etc/samba/smb.conf anymore? The shares are working fine, but I dont see the share settings in the smb.conf file anymore.
[08:33] <iusegnulinux> tango
[08:33] <hugol1> any one know how to solve the problems with the nvidia propietary drivers?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> Wanderer, xorg-driver-fglrx I believe
[08:33] <raj1> like this __http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64324/
[08:33] <raj1> huh
[08:33] <iusegnulinux> what problem?
[08:33] <Ziroday> hugol1: what are these problems exactly
[08:34] <kuru> I like GNOME on ubuntu, but how do I get rid of the annoying way it alternates between apps (alt-tab) ...
[08:34] <Johnny_> hey
[08:34] <iusegnulinux> i use nvidia proprietary driver
[08:34] <kuru> it keeps showing icons of the running apps and a bit of animation
[08:34] <darryl> how do you use the 32bit libraries for compiling?
[08:34] <kuru> which, if anything, is just plain annoying
[08:34] <xepra> man ubuntu's grub install is fubar
[08:34] <kuru> can't figure out how to get rid of it
[08:34] <Johnny_> I have downloaded a .tar.gz file but do not know how to install it. how can i do so?
[08:34] <xepra> I haven't gotten it to work out of the box once
[08:34] <latitu> i have hp deskjet 3900 printer. how can i see ink levels and have some advanced configs and printing quality levels . like in windows?
[08:34] <Ziroday> kuru: what do you want to change it to?
[08:34] <Qrawl> is ther a virtualization thing built in to Hoary
[08:34] <raj1> double click
[08:34] <raj1> :)
[08:34] <Flannel> Qrawl: Hoary?
[08:34] <darryl> Johnny_: you have to extract the files and probably compile the program
[08:34] <Wavesonics> Jordan_U: I don't have that installed it says
[08:34] <Jordan_U> Johnny_, Are you sure it's not available in the repos or as a .deb file?
[08:34] <XceII> lol hoary
[08:35] <hugol1> Ziroday:  launchpad is full of it. Since I installed hardy I cant install nvidia propietary drivers. Neither through Hardware drivers neither manually
[08:35] <bobbie4> well, it's time for bobbie to go to bed, night all!!!!
[08:35] <Qrawl> I mean Hardy
[08:35] <hugol1> and the max resolution I get is 800x600
[08:35] <Hans> I know a guy, who uses still Breezy Badger...
[08:35] <Johnny_> darryl: how do i compile it
[08:35] <XceII> heron
[08:35] <`mIRC`> what is the most suitable filesystem (ext1...ext2...ext3) to use for install ubuntu?
[08:35] <tomasko> wow there are so many trolls here tonight. more so than normal
[08:35] <tomasko> can't separate the noobs from the trolls either
[08:35] <boeing> Johnny_, extract the archive
[08:35] <Zloog> mIRC: ext3 is probably your best bet
[08:35] <nikitis> Flannel: http://rafb.net/p/xR4JIF23.html
[08:35] <xepra> or xfs...
[08:35] <Ziroday> hugol1: don't know anything about that sorry, proprietary drivers work fine for me
[08:35] <Hans> He asked on wednesday, why he dont get any update anymore....
[08:35] <Johnny_> boeing: i extracted how do i compile it
[08:35] <tomasko> `mIRC`: ext2 for the kernel /boot and ext3 for any data you care about (like your home dir, etc.)
[08:35] <darryl> Johnny_: that depends on the program, normally it would be  sudo ./configure && make && make install
[08:36] <`mIRC`> Zloog : excuse me....why is that so?
[08:36] <boeing> then go to a directory where u can find a file "configure"
[08:36] <gnuskool> screen resolution on an external monitor for laptops is a nightmare, help, i got intel 855 card
[08:36] <kuru> ziroday, to just switch to the other app
[08:36] <iusegnulinux> tried the binary installer?
[08:36] <tomasko> `mIRC`: no one uses ext1
[08:36] <hugol1> Ziroday:  ok
[08:36] <Johnny_> darryl: where do i even type this in
[08:36] <Ziroday> kuru: eh?
[08:36] <iusegnulinux> ext3 is cool
[08:36] <boeing> Johnny_, open a terminal and cd to that folder
[08:36] <boeing> ./configure
[08:36] <Johnny_> boeing: what does cd mean
[08:36] <kuru> ziroday, no animation
[08:36] <xepra> 'mIRC': ext3 is the slowest, but has the best failure recovery
[08:36] <Flannel> nikitis: and rootnoverify gives the same error?
[08:36] <raj1> change directory
[08:36] <Jordan_U> Johnny_, Are you sure it's not available in the repos or as a .deb file?
[08:36] <iusegnulinux> change irectory
[08:36] <boeing> Johnny_, cd means change directory
[08:37] <xepra> 'mIRC': jfs has the lowest cpu usage
[08:37] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows, I think I need to run some checks as I dont know why it wont mount
[08:37] <nikitis> Flannel: yes it does
[08:37] <Johnny_> jordan: i am sure
[08:37] <iusegnulinux> reiserfs?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> Johnny_, What are you trying to install?
[08:37] <Johnny_> jordan: apache
[08:37] <nikitis> Flannel: i assume you mean change root  (hd2,0) to rootnoverify  (hd2,0)
[08:37] <Flannel> nikitis: Have you tried adding 'makeactive' after the root line?
[08:37] <`mIRC`> thanx you guyz for advice :D
[08:37] <Flannel> nikitis: I do.
[08:37] <Qrawl> so about my question, does Hardy have builtin virtualization
[08:37] <Zloog> mIRC: Your filesystem type usually doesnt matter too much. The only important thing is that it is journalizing, which ext3 is. Barring that, you don't need anything fancy unless you have a very particular need.
[08:37] <sleepster> how would I get a drive to mount everytime I turn on my machine
[08:37] <Johnny_> jordan: i have extracted to the desktop can u tell me exactly what 2 type in the terminal
[08:37] <unop> darryl, sudo ./configure && make && make install  probably wouldn't cut it ..  ./configure and make do not need to be run as root, make install does tho
[08:37] <mcp_> How do i disable Tracker? I already removed the Session-Entries. Trackerd still starts from time to time.
[08:37] <gnuskool> corbett: is it ntfs filesystem or linux filesystem
[08:37] <nikitis> Flannel: yes i believe so, i'll try again
[08:37] <xepra> 'mIRC': they all have their advantages and disadvantages - there are some great benchmarks out there tho
[08:37] <darryl> hey does anyone know if you can compile lmms with vst support on a amd64?
[08:38] <corbett> gnuskool: ntfs
[08:38] <boeing> unop, he is new. he wont understand this lang.
[08:38] <zigford> extra chees
[08:38] <boeing> Johnny_, open a terminal
[08:38] <Jordan_U> Johnny_, It depends on what program you are installing, you may need to get dependencies for that specific program
[08:38] <Zloog> corbett: How did you try mounting it?
[08:38] <darryl> i've tried but it says my libstc++ is imcompatible, i think it has to do with it being 64bit, but how do you get it to use the 32bit libraries?
[08:38] <iusegnulinux> how to get write permission to ntfs partition?
[08:38] <`mIRC`> thanx you guyz for advice :D
[08:38] <Zloog> ^_^
[08:38] <Johnny_> jordan_U: it is appache and i have opened the terminal what do i type
[08:39] <boeing> Johnny_, type cd "/home/jo/directory"
[08:39] <backslash> Is there something really new in Hardy? Had no time to upgrade yet
[08:39] <nikitis> Flannel: yes same error, with makeactive under root or rootnoverify
[08:39] <boeing> Johnny_, this will change the dir of the terminal
[08:39] <iusegnulinux> latest apps
[08:39] <nikitis> Flannel: you can see why i'm confused
[08:39] <Oprtz> hello just install ubuntu 8.04 LTS and i love it, because it support my Intel 946GZ chipset and vga driver :) just want to ask how to minimize the screen resoultion, when ubuntu ask user name and password? after that i set my resoultion and ubuntu shift to that resoultion, thanks
[08:39] <generic> nay one works on gosa?
[08:39] <boeing> Johnny_, you have to hence change to the dir where a file called configure is located.
[08:39] <XceII> backslash:  it now has a kitchen sink
[08:39] <corbett> Zloog:   well ive just plugged it in, ive tried a mount command, but as im new , im not sure, ive only just loaded ubuntu
[08:39] <boeing> Johnny_, then type ./configure
[08:39] <unop> iusegnulinux, it should be as straight forward as a simple mount, what happens when you try and write to the partition?
[08:40] <Johnny_> boeing: i dont know what to type at all the file name is apache_1.3.4.1 and it is on the desktop can u put exactly what to type in quotes
[08:40] <Xperiment62> anyone here able to help me find a suitable IRC client, query if able to help
[08:40] <Zloog> Corbett: cool, If you go to your PLACES menu in X windows and then down to computer, you should see your drive listed in there
[08:40] <boeing> Johnny_, this means "execute configure", in the current directory, in unix
[08:40] <karbo> Anyone else experienced this? I have managed to configure my ATI card to use dual screen, 2 desktops next to eachother, and this works fine on the login display. But as soon as I log in, it resets to cloned display.
[08:40] <lalalala> why is ubuntu so great?????????
[08:40] <Zloog> corbett: double click that and it should mount
[08:40] <sleepster> how would I get a drive to mount everytime I turn on my machine
[08:40] <Johnny_> boeing i am to confused
[08:40] <iusegnulinux> i can mount it, read it, but cant write
[08:40] <boeing> Johnny_, apache is easier to install.
[08:41] <boeing> u dont need to compile from source.
[08:41] <Xperiment62> anyone here able to help me find a suitable IRC client, query if able to help
[08:41] <Johnny_> boeing_i am trying to install apache
[08:41] <unop> iusegnulinux, yes, we gathered that much -- but what exactly happens when you try and write to it?
[08:41] <Hikejinx> I'm running Hardy on VirtualBox. Does anyone know of any tricks to get the restricted drivers to work on there? I can just install them in the cli I guess?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> Johnny_, "sudo apt-get build-dep apache2" what is wrong with Ubuntu's version though?
[08:41] <Zloog> Did something change in 8.04 to make it so that my samba share settings arent saved in /etc/samba/smb.conf anymore? The shares are working fine, but I dont see the share settings in the smb.conf file anymore.
[08:41] <Flannel> Xperiment62: Xchat, irssi, Konversation
[08:41] <backslash> XceII: yeah finally
[08:41] <gnuskool> Xperiment62: pidgin
[08:41] <lalalala> why is ubuntu so great?????????
[08:41] <Flannel> lalalala: #ubuntu-offtopic would love to answer that questoin
[08:41] <Zloog> lalalala: Cause it works. Also, the windows, they wobble
[08:41] <XceII> lol
[08:42] <boeing> Johnny_, 1 min.
[08:42] <iusegnulinux> lol
[08:42] <Xperiment62> lemme rephrase that, i use mIRC on my windows machine, and i need something i can easily script for on my powerpc laptop
[08:42] <Deathserver> i installed the aicrak suite and i dont want to run a command every time i want to use but it didnt add it to applications in the menu
[08:42] <corbett> Zloog: i dont follow, ive wiped windows, do you mean PLACES ON uBUNTU, THERES NUTHIN THERE
[08:42] <Johnny_> boeing i think i got it thank you
[08:42] <karbo> Anyone managed to get dual screen support in 8.04 with an ATI card care to help me out a few mins?
[08:42] <lalalala> but ubuntu can't play games!
[08:42] <boeing> Johnny_, go to system-->administration-->synaptic
[08:42] <WelshDragon> Xperiment62, If you know perl, python, or TCL, xchat would be your best bet :)
[08:42] <gnuskool> corbett: places in ubuntu
[08:42] <boeing> lalalala, search for games in add/remove
[08:42] <iusegnulinux> can anyone pl help me here? i need write access to a ntfs partition from live cd
[08:43] <gord> lalalalala: urbanterror, google it
[08:43] <boeing> Johnny_, there, u need to give ur password.
[08:43] <kahrytan> What is the OSS equivalent of the msfonts?
[08:43] <esperegu> patch -p6 <patch.txt GIVES ME: 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file mantis_vp1041.c.re
[08:43] <boeing> Johnny_, there, search for apache2
[08:43] <Johnny_> boeing i did
[08:43] <darryl> you can play all kinds of games
[08:43] <esperegu> any idea why? (kinda patch noob here)
[08:43] <gnuskool> Xperiment62: pidgin does irc and heaps of other IMs
[08:43] <Wavesonics> Ok, so I installed fglrx drivers, and the fglrx-control app, how do I run the control app, i cant find it anywhere
[08:43] <lalalala> ok even can play.... does it perform better than vista... fps/stability etc???
[08:43] <darryl> wine has come far, leaps and bounds
[08:43] <darryl> there is also cedega
[08:43] <Johnny_> boeing can we private chat
[08:43] <biabia> Hardy upgrade resulted in an error now on boot:  Error "vm.mmap_ap_min_addr is an unknown key"      fail     --any idea how to fix?
[08:43] <Zloog> corbett: yes, the PLACES menu on the upper right hand corner
[08:43] <Deathserver> anyone know how to get thos progyz to my menu
[08:43] <corbett> gnuskool: yep, nuthin there,
[08:43] <lalalala> ok even can play.... does it perform better than vista... fps/stability etc???
[08:43] <boeing> Johnny_, it will then say marking additional dependencies, which may be libraries, documentation, etc relatedd to the program.
[08:44] <unop> kahrytan, "msttcorefonts"
[08:44] <corbett> Zloog: nuthin there
[08:44] <lalalala> dont talk abt Wine... my darkage of camelot can't even play!
[08:44] <Johnny_> boeing: i am in the terminal and it is installing
[08:44] <boeing> Johnny_, Then just click apply
[08:44] <Johnny_> boeing i think i am done
[08:44] <kahrytan> unop->  not M$ font but the ones that look like them
[08:44] <Jordan_U> lalalala, Ubuntu is not for everyone.
[08:44] <gord> lalalala: use windoze for play, use linux for life
[08:44] <Zloog> Corbett: what do you mean by you "wiped" windows? If you've deleted that partition, then the data is lost forver :(
[08:45] <Flannel> nikitis: Try (and yes, this is complete shotgun debugging) moving the root line to after the mapping (but keep it 2,0)
[08:45] <unop> kahrytan, errm, the only fonts that resemble microsofts truetype fonts are microsoft's themselves, i know of no other
[08:45] <Zloog> lalala: You could always just take up warcraft. plays fantastic in wine.
[08:45] <Wavesonics> any know how to run fglrx-control?
[08:45] <jeanre> what do I need to isntall to listen to mp3s?
[08:45] <lalalala> does compiz fusion conflict with wine?
[08:45] <kahrytan> unop->  then you dont know it exists.
[08:45] <nikitis> Flannel: same
[08:46] <XceII> jeanre:  amarok
[08:46] <unop> kahrytan, that's what i said, didn't i?
[08:46] <gord> gotta be a trolbot :(
[08:46] <unop> :)
[08:46] <boeing> Johnny_, apache involves certain configurations other than just installations. installing thru synaptic makes it easier. installing thru make and make install involves post-configuration of certain textfiles
[08:46] <Callipyginous> How would i go about editing my sudoers file?
[08:46] <jeanre> XceII: no the codecs
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | jeanre
[08:46] <ubotu> jeanre: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:46] <gnuskool> corbett: in terminal type sudo fdisk -l  , see if your ntfs partition shows there
[08:46] <Zloog> jeanre: try to open an mp3 file in Totem movie player. Make sure you have synaptic closed. ubuntu will walk you through the proccess
[08:46] <dystopianray> Callipyginous: sudo visudo
[08:46] <boeing> Johnny_, did u make and make install? or only ./configure?
[08:46] <XceII> jeanre:  in addremove, look for gstreamer
[08:47] <Zloog> !samba | zloog
[08:47] <Callipyginous> Yeah, i tried that, but how do i add a new entry...
[08:47] <ddcc> I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.0 LTS, but after the dist-upgrade, it crashed after installing new packages, saying that it would run sudo dpkg --configure -a to prevent the system from being in an unusable state. That succeeded, however, the dist-upgrade has closed so it never proceeded to Cleanup and Reboot the system. Is there anyway to manually do that?
[08:47] <Flannel> Callipyginous: new entry for what?
[08:47] <kahrytan> unop->  saw it in a blog once
[08:47] <Johnny_> boeing it is running now and the number is fluxuating between 4 mins and 20 hours
[08:47] <gnuskool> recommendations please, gnash or adobe?? for hardy
[08:47] <laiya> hi
[08:47] <Emof> I upgraded to Hardy and my nvidia drivers didn't work anymore. I've tried reinstalling them both with apt and with envy, but nothing works. Anyone have any clue to how to solve this?
[08:47] <lunchbox330> the people in #compiz are real helpful.
[08:47] <darryl> Emof there is a lot of stuff on that in the forums
[08:48] <laiya> i just downloaded a theme .. its a tar.gz file .. how do i install it ? double clicking wot help
[08:48] <gnuskool> Emof: most likely your xorg.conf file
[08:48] <Callipyginous> Im getting my g15 keyboard lcd to work, and the documentation tells me to add the daemon to the list....
[08:48] <gnuskool> corb
[08:48] <lunchbox330> er, #compiz-fusion
[08:48] <boeing> Johnny_, what is fluctuating?
[08:48] <corbett> Zloog: i have my stuff backed up on the ehd from when i was using windows , ive loaded ub 7.10, its partioned for the entire disk on the PC , now i want to see if i can get the ehd "talking"to ubuntu  Ill try sud fdisk -1  to the paste bin
[08:48] <gnuskool> corbett: any luck
[08:48] <ddcc> ﻿I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.0 LTS, but after the dist-upgrade, it crashed after installing new packages, saying that it would run sudo dpkg --configure -a to prevent the system from being in an unusable state. That succeeded, however, the dist-upgrade has closed so it never proceeded to Cleanup and Reboot the system. Is there anyway to manually do that?
[08:48] <Jordan_U> Emof, How did you install the drivers originally?
[08:48] <isilol> laiya: something easy would be to open the theme manager and drag and drop the archive on the window
[08:48] <Flannel> Callipyginous: Thats.... bad documentation.  Nothing you just described should require editing sudoers
[08:48] <Johnny_> boeing: the time it says b4 the install is done
[08:48] <Zloog> corbett: cool
[08:48] <Emof> Jordan_U: as far as I remember with apt-get
[08:48] <corbett> gnuskool: Zloog: i have my stuff backed up on the ehd from when i was using windows , ive loaded ub 7.10, its partioned for the entire disk on the PC , now i want to see if i can get the ehd "talking"to ubuntu Ill try sud fdisk -1 to the paste bin
[08:48] <laiya> isilol: lemme try that
[08:48] <Callipyginous> I think i may have borked it up... :(
[08:49] <James_478> Hey all, Any help would be appreciated. Everything was working great with 8.04 last night and this morning and all of a sudden this morning I can't 'Sudo' It tells me it can't resolve the hostname, I can't load synaptic (nothing happens) and my numpad on the keyboard doesn't work :(
[08:49] <nikitis> Flannel: i wish there was a way to have it reinstall grub and detect it right
[08:49] <edugonch> hello, do somebody have problems with Anjuta and glade, I start edit a widget but when I close Anjuta and then I open again and choose glade IDE Anjuta doesn't open
[08:49] <boeing> Johnny_, is configure still running or is it make?
[08:49] <lalalala> does compiz fusion conflict with wine?
[08:49] <Flannel> nikitis: You should be able to use super grub disk
[08:49] <Flannel> lalalala: no
[08:49] <laiya> isilol: it says file format is invalid
[08:49] <gnuskool> who uses an external monitor on a laptop?I got resolution probs
[08:49] <nikitis> Flannel: ?
[08:49] <Oprtz> ﻿just install ubuntu 8.04 LTS and i love it, because it support my Intel 946GZ chipset and vga driver :) just want to ask how to minimize the screen resoultion, when ubuntu ask user name and password? after that i set my resoultion and ubuntu shift to that resoultion, thanks
[08:49] <Iced_Eagle> Does anyone have a PasteBin of the awesome info.pl scripts I've seen in screenshots lately?
[08:49] <lalalala> Don't use Compiz or KDE composite with Wine - #winhq
[08:49] <Cyr4x> what does upgrade to hardy from update-notifier icon?
[08:49] <ddcc> ﻿I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.0 LTS, but after the dist-upgrade, it crashed after installing new packages, saying that it would run sudo dpkg --configure -a to prevent the system from being in an unusable state. That succeeded, however, the dist-upgrade has closed so it never proceeded to Cleanup and Reboot the system. Is there anyway to manually do that?
[08:50] <Zloog> Has anyone been experiencing freezes that seem to be related to compiz?
[08:50] <Flannel> !repeat | ddcc
[08:50] <ubotu> ddcc: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:50] <Cyr4x> the same as sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:50] <Flannel> James_478: You must have set your hostname improperly.  You may need to reboot to the recovery console to fix it.
[08:50] <ddcc> ﻿I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 7.10 to 8.0 LTS, but after the dist-upgrade, it crashed after installing new packages, saying that it would run sudo dpkg --configure -a to prevent the system from being in an unusable state. That succeeded, however, the dist-upgrade has closed so it never proceeded to Cleanup and Reboot the system. Is there anyway to manually do that?
[08:50] <Callipyginous> Flannel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15?highlight=(g15) - Thats the documentation
[08:50] <Flannel> !hostname | James_478
[08:50] <ubotu> James_478: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[08:50] <corbett> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8000/
[08:50] <lalalala> Don't use Compiz or KDE composite with Wine - #winhq
[08:50] <Flannel> ddcc: Please *dont* repeat, that wasn't an invitation to do it again.
[08:50] <Jordan_U> boeing, I think he is talking about the apt-get build-dep I told him to do ( as that would actually have a "time remaining" )
[08:50] <Zloog> corbett: taking a look at it..
[08:50] <ddcc> ok
[08:51] <James_478> in the network settings it is set to james-linux which is correct :S
[08:51] <Johnny_> jordan: that is what i am talking about
[08:51] <isilol> laiya: it might be then : / there are more instructions in the theme manager window
[08:51] <lalalala> only a nerd/geek would use ubuntu!
[08:51] <esperegu> anyone can help me with applying a patch?  I tried: patch -p6 <patch.txt but that gives me: 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file mantis_vp1041.c.rej The diff file was made with: diff -Naur mantis_orig/linux/drivers/media/dvb/mantis/mantis_vp1041.c mantis_mod/linux/drivers/media/dvb/mantis/mantis_vp1041.c How should I patch this?
[08:51] <Flannel> Callipyginous: alright, well, just add that line to the bottom
[08:51] <andycaass> How to autostart conky????
[08:51] <Cyr4x> do i sould turn off x server while upgrading to hardy?
[08:51] <ademan_> anyone have Windows XP program recommendations for burning cds?
[08:51] <lalalala> only a nerd/geek would use ubuntu!
[08:51] <Cyr4x> should*
[08:51] <boeing> lalalala, do u mean that is y my grandma, uses ubuntu?
[08:51] <gord> lalalala: my company hgas 3000 ubuntu desktop in use, for 18 month now
[08:52] <darryl> ademan: nero works
[08:52] <gnuskool> ademan, i dont use xp :D
[08:52] <Callipyginous> Flannel: i tried, but it isnt like editing it in gedit... Sorry, im a bit of a noob
[08:52] <Flannel> ademan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[08:52] <ademan_> darryl: i suppose i should say, free
[08:52] <Flannel> Callipyginous: you need to use sudo visudo to edit sudoers.  Don't ever try and edit any other way
[08:52] <ademan_> not having k3b is really messing with me :-( lol
[08:52] <Johnny_> boeing: i am talking about the sudo thing
[08:52] <isilol> Hey, anyone feels like figuring out why nvidia drivers in 8.04 are not loaded (even though xorg.conf might imply so)? ..
[08:52] <Cyr4x> ademan_: xpcdburn
[08:52] <jfrench> ademan_: Use InfraRecorder its free and is very useful
[08:52] <James_478> ubotu: I think I just fixed it :S
[08:52] <boeing> lalalala, unless u have some serious device problem, u should not say this?
[08:53] <Cyr4x> or maybe some older ashampoo burning studio
[08:53] <gnuskool> corbett: it doesent sow on that fdisk, when you connect it to your pc, does it make a sound or anything?
[08:53] <gord> lalalala: 3122 to be exact. and we have 4 (four) IT support staff for the whole lot
[08:53] <ademan_> thanks guys
[08:53] <Callipyginous> Flannel: Yeah... It worked for me in 7.10, but now its giving me grief in 8.04
[08:53] <Zloog> corbett: I think you have accidentally deleted your E:/ drive :(
[08:53] <Johnny_> boeing: i am doing the sudo thing
[08:53] <nikitis> Flannel: will super grub disk fix my problem or will I have to use it everytime I want to boot windows?
[08:53] <boeing> lalalala, this chat is not for off-topic. at least u should say what made u say this
[08:53] <Jordan_U> James_478, What is the output of "grep $(cat /etc/hostname) /etc/hosts" ?
[08:53] <boeing> Johnny_, ok
[08:53] <lalalala> only if i can get darkage of camelot to work on ubuntu then i'll ditch vista!
[08:54] <jeanre> how do I allow everyone to see a samba share?
[08:54] <Johnny_> boeing: what is the sudo thing
[08:54] <Flannel> nikitis: If it works,it'll fix the problem
[08:54] <Xperiment62> anyone know of a way to script using mIRC Scripting Language in X-Chat?
[08:54] <Johnny_> boeing: it finished
[08:54] <Cyr4x> how to turn off x server?
[08:54] <nikitis> Flannel: i'm out of cd's
[08:54] <nikitis> crap
[08:54] <wib> ﻿hi. i upgraded to 8.04 yesterday. now, when i playback video, i have cpu usage as high as 99% on both cores. that wasn't the case in 7.10. ati raedon x1300, compiz fusion
[08:54] <Flannel> Xperiment62: no, theyre incompatable
[08:54] <Ultumix0015_> how do move to a different desktop in ulutmix?
[08:54] <corbett> Zloog: well , the light is flashing on the ehd,  dmesg mentions it,  i can assure you it works as it took into work and use on the work pc
[08:54] <boeing> Johnny_, one minute. i am browsing thru our discussion.
[08:54] <Johnny_> boeing, ok
[08:55] <corbett> Zloog: which is of course windows
[08:55] <lalalala> Don't use Compiz or KDE composite with Wine - #winhq
[08:55] <Zloog> corbett is this an external drive or something?
[08:55] <Ultumix0015_> how do move to a different desktop in ulutmix
[08:55] <Qrawl> Is there builtin virtualization in Hardy
[08:55] <Ultumix0015_> how do i remote desktop to ultimix? only vnc
[08:55] <gnuskool> Qrawl: yes
[08:55] <Ultumix0015_> how do move to a different desktop in ulutmix
[08:55] <icqnumber> lalalala, no one forces you to use linux, ubuntu, opensuse or what ever!!
[08:55] <corbett> Zloog: its an external hard drive maxtor mini iii , usb
[08:56] <jeanre> hmmm nothing is comming out of my speakers
[08:56] <Ultumix0015_> hello
[08:56] <Flannel> Ultumix0015_: You should ask the Ultumix people, we have no idea.
[08:56] <jeanre> WTF
[08:56] <jeanre> I can see the track play
[08:56] <Qrawl> gnuskool, where is it located
[08:56] <boeing> Johnny_, can u tell me the complete command u typed? i am unable to retrieve, as i once did a /clear
[08:56] <jeanre> but I dont hear anything
[08:56] <Ultumix0015_> 10 4
[08:56] <michel1980> does anyone know why the downloadrate of synaptic package management is so slow? is it because of the release of hardy final?
[08:56] <Flannel> michel1980: that's exactly why.
[08:56] <Qrawl> gnuskool, I have a VirtualBox .vdi file
[08:56] <michel1980> ok
[08:56] <Zloog> michel1980: absoletly
[08:57] <corbett> Zloog: having said that to get it working on windows I've previously  had to download software from the Seagate site
[08:57] <boeing> Johnny_, can u tell me the complete command u typed? i am unable to retrieve, as i once did a /clear
[08:57] <Johnny_> boeing i typed: sudo apt-get build-dep apache2
[08:57] <jeanre> how can I test my soun d guys?
[08:57] <pengo> I have installed hardy from a USB key, but ironically I cannot mount the USB key from within Hardy (running off HDD).  "Cannot mount volume. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume." (I used to have this problem in Gutsy too--tried many USB thumb drives--and this is a clean install) Lenovo x61 laptop
[08:58] <Zloog> corbett: huh, it is is a regular usb drive and your usb port is working, the drive should appear at computer:///
[08:58] <Light-> Hi, how do I make my themes that I downloaded from gnome-look.org work in programs like Synaptic and Gedit? They work fine in nautilus and firefox
[08:58] <Johnny_> boeing, i typed: sudo apt-get build-dep apache2
[08:58] <jeanre> hmmm
[08:58] <jeanre> I dont hear anything
[08:58] <boeing> Johnny_, that is a command to install a package(apache2) from ubuntu repository(a treasurechest)
[08:58] <gnuskool> corbett: look in/var/log/messages for something like this line  Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
[08:58] <Qrawl> can someone please tell me how do I use a VirtualBox .vdi file with the new builtin virtualization in Hardy
[08:59] <nikitis> Flannel: i need another option.  Better troubleshooting or something.  I have no way to use super grub disk
[08:59] <icesword> Johnny_, sudo tasksel
[08:59] <Johnny_> boeing, so what do i do now
[08:59] <boeing> Johnny_, sudo means with administrative task(thats where linux gets its main security)
[08:59] <jeanre> hmmm
[08:59] <boeing> Johnny_, ur package is installed!
[08:59] <esperegu> anyone can help me with applying a patch?  I tried: patch -p6 <patch.txt but that gives me: 2 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file mantis_vp1041.c.rej The diff file was made with: diff -Naur mantis_orig/linux/drivers/media/dvb/mantis/mantis_vp1041.c mantis_mod/linux/drivers/media/dvb/mantis/mantis_vp1041.c How should I patch this?
[08:59] <Johnny_> boeing, how do i run the program then
[08:59] <Light-> Qrawl: I dont think its "built in" in hardy, the kernel has just been compiled with better support for Virtialization. You will still need to install VirtualBox
[08:59] <lalalala> only a nerd/geek would use ubuntu!
[08:59] <gnuskool> resolution problems on external monitor intel 855, help
[09:00] <Qrawl> Light-, what is kvm then
[09:00] <jeanre> can someone try and help me?
[09:00] <Light-> Qrawl: no idea, its not installed on my PC
[09:00] <nikitis> Are there any experts on Grub and making windows partitions boot properly?  I have quite the challenge for someone
[09:00] <Qrawl> Light-, ok ty
[09:00] <boeing> Johnny_, pose this question again as a general one. Ur software installation is over and configuring apache itself is a book-huge task, depending on ur needs
[09:00] <gnuskool> nikitis: whats the prob
[09:01] <Light-> How do I make my themes that I downloaded from gnome-look.org work in programs like Synaptic and Gedit? They work fine in nautilus and firefox
[09:01] <boeing> Johnny_, it can be a one minute job if it is just a LAN SERVER, though
[09:01] <Johnny_> boeing: i am going over lan
[09:01] <gnuskool> Carbonflux: gedit /var/log/messages
[09:01] <nikitis> gnuskool: I have 3 harddrives, sda and sdb are linux, and sdc is windows.  I just installed windows first, freshly, then 8.04 ubuntu.  grub decided to not work when it came to the windows partition.  It will no longer boot.
[09:01] <Qrawl> Does VirtualBox use KVM to help it or something?
[09:01] <boeing> lalalala, there are better games eg. the battle for wesnoth.
[09:02] <Johnny_> boeing: i know how to set it up i just want to run it so i can configure it
[09:02] <nikitis> gnuskool: linux boots just fine
[09:02] <gnuskool> corbett: gedit/var/log7messages
[09:02] <boeing> Johnny_, i am not sure about apache-post configuration. ubotu seems to now about it.
[09:02] <grimsqueaker13> can anyone help me with vncserver? i have sshed into the server and started vncserver -AlwaysShared then connected from the client PC but i get a broken x window with an X cursoe and nothing else.... anyhelp?
[09:02] <pengo> Cannot mount a USB key (thumb drive) in Hardy. Help?
[09:02] <corbett> gnuskool:can yo uhave a look at this ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001/
[09:03] <lalalala> only a nerd/geek would use ubuntu!
[09:03] <nikitis> gnuskool: i need a way to boot it, whether it be by changing the mappings. reinstalling grub. or whatever
[09:03] <Johnny_> thanx
[09:03] <pengo> lalalala: what's your point?
[09:03] <Johnny_> i g2g bye
[09:03] <Light-> pengo: what command are you typing to mount it?
[09:03] <Nahi> lalalala what do u use?
[09:03] <Johnny_> thanx for the hemp
[09:03] <Johnny_> help
[09:03] <Johnny_> bye
[09:03] <FloodBot2> Johnny_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:03] <pengo> Light-: none. i'm double clicking on it.
[09:03] <Maxdamantus> grimsqueaker13, you have nothing running on the VNC display.
[09:03] <XceII> only a lulu would be called a lala
[09:03] <Maxdamantus> It's not broken.
[09:03] <lalalala> i use vista - im a genius!
[09:04] <grimsqueaker13> oh... how do i start a proper x session?
[09:04] <boeing> lalalala, pls dont comment again. nobody minds if you dont use ubuntu or whatever
[09:04] <Nahi> lalalala vista is for losers
[09:04] <gord> grimsqueaker13: if its greay and old looking, mouse mooves, that OK, its running but as default X-session, an "new" display, not your normal desktop. I not an expert tho
[09:04] <Nahi> it sux
[09:04] <gnuskool> nikitis: when you first installed grub, did it detect a windows OS?
[09:04] <tzfardea> Hey, I just upgraded to ubuntu 8.04 with firefox 3.0b5 and now I have a problem that the firefox crashes often, I get this error in the console "firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0."
[09:04] <Nahi> its a bad mix of nix/mac
[09:04] <nikitis> gnuskool: yes
[09:04] <macouno> Hey folks... ehm... has anyone checked the ubuntu website in ie? I know it's a sin to do so but since wubi is included...
[09:04] <boeing> lalalala, then teach me how to make the vista kernel if u are a vista genius
[09:04] <pengo> Light-: "Cannot mount volume. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume."
[09:04] <nikitis> gnuskool: it detected Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[09:04] <Maxdamantus> grimsqueaker13, if you're using the common "vncserver", edit your ~/.vnc/xstartup script to start metacity, xterm, etc..
[09:04] <Jordan_U> boeing, Please stop feeding the troll
[09:05] <IndyGunFreak> macouno: why would it matter?
[09:05] <Light-> pengo: hmm, thats weird
[09:05] <Riot777> if anyone here is using lirc remote that used gpio module on hardy please query me
[09:05] <Light-> pengo: working fine here. try mounting it from the command line
[09:05] <gnuskool> corbett: is your maxtor 260MB, or is that a thumb drive you got also
[09:05] <lalalala> why use ubuntu its so complicated! vista is so easy click click click and its more stable/secure than ubuntu!
[09:05] <macouno> IndyGunFreak, cause wubi in included, which means it's easier for windows users to try out ubuntu... which is good, but ehm.. if the website doesn't work for them at all... they just won't bother
[09:05] <boeing> lalalala, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:05] <pengo> Light-: well not so weird. i had the same problem in gutsy. (this is a clean install)
[09:06] <grimsqueaker13> dont know much about how to edit xstartup script, where can i reaqd about it?
[09:06] <Light-> pengo: does it work fine in windows?
[09:06] <IndyGunFreak> macouno: well, i imagine the website works.... why wouldn't it.
[09:06] <Maxdamantus> grimsqueaker13, just edit it, and add some programs to run when you start the VNC.
[09:06] <asc> Anybody know why they thought it was a good idea to remove torrent links from the download page a few releases back?
[09:06] <Zloog> Did something change in 8.04 to make it so that my samba share settings arent saved in /etc/samba/smb.conf anymore? The shares are working fine, but I dont see the share settings in the smb.conf file anymore.
[09:06] <Light-> pengo: your motherboards USB could be dodgy
[09:06] <OsamaK> Hello. Can I install more than one version of Ubuntu on my computer. For example Ubuntu, KUbuntu and EDUbuntu?
[09:06] <pengo> Light-: yes. and i even installed Ubuntu from a thumb drive.
[09:06] <Light-> pengo: ah, ok
[09:06] <Maxdamantus> You'd probably want to add "metacity&", "xterm"
[09:06] <corbett> gnuskool: 260 MB is a thunb drive istick in to see if the reaer usb is working, the maxtro is 100 GB
[09:06] <ikonia> OsamaK: sure
[09:06] <macouno> IndyGunFreak, well... it doesn't... I found at least half a dozen issues wihtin 5 minutes of browsing
[09:06] <gord>  grimsqueaker13: when u get it right, u have a full destop: )   oldl thread at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402, probably still valid
[09:07] <mintsoup> is there a command that will tell me what video driver i'm using?
[09:07] <macouno> IndyGunFreak, issues like not being able to go beyond the first item in the dropdown menu (and on some pages no dropdown menu showing at all)...
[09:07] <ikonia> mintsoup: look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <ikonia> mintsoup: look at the Driver section
[09:07] <IndyGunFreak> macouno: well who's to say thast Ubuntu's fault?  IE isn't exactly known for blazing speed and stability... I'd say if most people are looking at Free Alternatives, good possibility they are already using Opera or Firefox
[09:07] <ikonia> mintsoup: unless.... what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:07] <mintsoup> ah yes shoulda thought of that ;p  Thanks
[09:07] <pengo> Light-: yep. manual mounting works
[09:08] <Light-> pengo: weird that automounting doesnt
[09:08] <boeing> OsamaK, install one *ubuntu and insert the other cds. the package manager will automatically detect and u can add the other cds as offline repos
[09:08] <mintsoup> 8.04 :o
[09:08] <nikitis> gnuskool: what are you thinking about?
[09:08] <iGraphiX> Hello to everybody!
[09:08] <genie> hi all
[09:08] <ikonia> mintsoup: that will be fine
[09:08] <pengo> Light-: just did sudo mount /dev/sdb1 drive
[09:08] <boeing> genie, hi
[09:08] <joetheodd> Floodbot2, hi.
[09:08] <boeing> Light-, add /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab with right parameters if u want regularly
[09:09] <macouno> IndyGunFreak, I'ts not a matter of "fault"... it should be "made to work", having a website that doesn't work in the big 3 browsers is just not a good idea
[09:09] <Light-> boeing: pengo is having the problem not me :)
[09:09] <genie> I cannot switch between keyboard layout when I press both ALT together ! any idea?
[09:09] <boeing> pengo,  add /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab with right parameters if u want regularly
[09:09] <OsamaK> ikonia: Great. I'm using Ubuntu + Ubuntu-KDE4, but I wasn't very sure of other versions like ED, X..
[09:09] <macouno> IndyGunFreak, anyway... I just thought I'd mention it in case one of the webdevs was in here
[09:09] <mintsoup> question: is it a bad idea to comment out a line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer?
[09:09] <boeing> OsamaK, install one *ubuntu and insert the other cds. the package manager will automatically detect and u can add the other cds as offline repos
[09:09] <IndyGunFreak> macouno: well, write canonical, i'm sure they'd just love to hear about it.
[09:09] <csais> sup guys, i just updated ubuntu to 8.04 and i'am wondering how to make amsn work
[09:10] <OsamaK> boeing: ok thax
[09:10] <pengo> boeing: thanks.. but would be nice to have a generic solution
[09:10] <iGraphiX> csais, why do you need aMSN, you have Pidgin installed by default.
[09:10] <OsamaK> ikonia: thaks
[09:10] <wilsud> #eeepc
[09:10] <Qrawl> Can someone help me. Im really confused.  I thought KVM was already in Hardy
[09:10] <csais> is it better than amsn?
[09:10] <boeing> pengo, this solution is given in tuxmachines.org pls search there
[09:10] <corbett> gnuskool: ive just replugged he maxtor and here are the messages http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[09:10] <pengo> boeing: thanks
[09:10] <iGraphiX> csais: In my opinion, yes. Just try it.
[09:11] <csais> ight thanks man
[09:11] <bullgard4> enouf: Synaptic classifies DEB program packages by 'sections'.
[09:11] <dystopianray> Qrawl: it should be
[09:11] <genie> I cannot switch between keyboard layout when I press both ALT together ! any idea?
[09:11] <iGraphiX> You're most welcome, no problem.
[09:11] <lacostej> Hei Hei. Trying to solve #216927, a problem where my keyboard and mouse get stuck. It's happening right now, so if there's a kernel guru that wants me to do something about it, let me know.
[09:11] <csais> what about automatix? is not working anymore right
[09:11] <Qrawl> dystopianray, I dont see it
[09:11] <c0mpub0mb> so.. ubuntu servers are down eh ?
[09:11] <Qrawl> !kvm
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <iGraphiX> No, they stopped the development.
[09:11] <c0mpub0mb> well rather they are practically dead.
[09:11] <dystopianray> csais: you should not ever use automatix
[09:11] <c0mpub0mb> barely respond.
[09:11] <asc> Heh. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't let you select driver or configure the monitor...
[09:11] <dystopianray> Qrawl: what are you looking for?
[09:11] <iGraphiX> Read this article: http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2424
[09:11] <csais> ight i'll with terminal
[09:11] <Qrawl> dystopianray, I have a virtualbox .vdi file.  I want to run it in KVM
[09:12] <Deathserver> i cant find this anywhere ne ideas as to where i can DL w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:12] <dystopianray> Qrawl: does your cpu have the hardware virtualisation support?
[09:12] <bullgard4> enouf: Synaptic classifies DEB program packages by 'sections'. Does Debian also classify DEB program packages by 'sections'? Searching for 'section' in 'man apt-get' does not return an output.
[09:12] <bullgard4> Synaptic classifies DEB program packages by 'sections'. Does Debian also classify DEB program packages by 'sections'? Searching for 'section' in 'man apt-get' does not return an output.
[09:12] <nikitis> i guess since no one can help me i'll just reinstall windows and ubuntu again
[09:12] <corbett> gnuskool: where u suggesting "gedit/var/log7messages" as a terminal command?
[09:13] <Qrawl> dystopianray, i dont know,  is that a new thing.  my computer is a few years old
[09:13] <pengo> boeing there's nothing on tuxmachines.org.  "Cannot mount volume." is only mentioned on one page (Mandriva 2007.0 alpha livecd)
[09:13] <Deathserver> i cant find this anywhere ne ideas as to where i can DL w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:13] <Qrawl> dystopianray, I guess I should just install VirtualBox
[09:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: ask debian guys
[09:13] <Qrawl> VirtualBox works good
[09:13] <nick_> ive got an rpm file to install how do i do it
[09:13] <Qrawl> I have no clue what KVM is
[09:14] <ikonia> nick_: it's strongly advised that you don't install rpm's
[09:14] <ikonia> orudie: kernel virtual machine
[09:14] <Deathserver> ne one read LXF
[09:14] <ikonia> Qrawl: kernel virtual machine, sorry
[09:14] <ikonia> Deathserver: offtopic here
[09:14] <lalalala> why use ubuntu its so complicated! vista is so easy click click click and its more stable/secure than ubuntu!
[09:14] <iGraphiX> Deathserver: You can download from here >>> http://zchan.homeunix.net/pub/Ubuntu.APP/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:14] <Deathserver> ty
[09:14] <ikonia> lalalala: stop it please. You've been like this all night, please stop
[09:14] <nick_> i ikonia: what about tar.gz becasue i can get it in that format
[09:14] <baddog> stfu lalalala
[09:14] <gord> lalalala: yesterday too, autotroll
[09:14] <bullgard4> ikonia: Debian guys in #debian are odd.
[09:14] <nick_> ikonia: what about tar.gz becasue i can get it in that format
[09:15] <ikonia> baddog: that attitude is unaccaptale
[09:15]  * baddog pokes #ubuntu-offtopic witha stick
[09:15] <ikonia> bullgard4: thats not my problem
[09:15] <baddog> sorry
[09:15] <Deathserver> nice thx i graphix
[09:15] <iGraphiX> You're welcome, Deathserver.
[09:15]  * baddog runs
[09:15] <ikonia> nick_: the tar format will depend on it's intended target
[09:15] <icqnumber> was he (lala...) yesterday here too?
[09:15] <lalalala> lol
[09:15] <ikonia> icqnumber: yes
[09:15] <gord> probably singapore M$ teenclub
[09:16] <ikonia> lalalala: stop
[09:16] <Deathserver> how do i write in red
[09:16] <ikonia> Deathserver: this is not irc help/lessons channel
[09:16] <Deathserver> blah sry
[09:16] <nick_> ikonia: im trying to install adobe flash player for my browser and i went to the adobe website and you can download it in rpm or tar.gz
[09:16] <sucka> ok im actually starting to like this add/remove feature....but i have a cd and on it theres a linux rpm shell installer this link [http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/] tells me that i have to convert the files is this true?
[09:17] <ikonia> nick_: why are you doing that ? there is a package in ubuntu for flash player
[09:17] <dystopianray> Qrawl: kvm needs hardware virtualisation support, a few years old is probably too old for it
[09:17] <ikonia> sucka: it is strongly advised that you don't use rpm's on ubuntu machines
[09:17] <sucka> oh ok
[09:17] <nick_> ikonia: i was trying to view soething and i had to click to download plugin
[09:17] <tzfardea> Well can someone help me :-\ my firefox crashes very often after the upgrade, this is the error in the console "firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0."
[09:17] <nick_> ikonia: how do i install that
[09:17] <ikonia> nick_: install the flash package through synaptic
[09:18] <sleepster> how would I get a drive to mount everytime I turn on my machine
[09:18] <sucka> theres also a deb installer but the rpm installer has all the example files for my software hmm..
[09:18] <ikonia> sleepster: put it in your fstab file
[09:18] <gord> sucka: is the program you are looking to install from rpm available via apt?
[09:18] <nick_> ikonia: doing that now
[09:18] <nick_> ikonia: cheers
[09:18] <sleepster> thanks ikonia
[09:18] <Qrawl> dystopianray, ok ty
[09:18] <ikonia> nick_: the package is "flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:18] <c0mpub0mb> does taskel even work ?
[09:18] <iGraphiX> nick_, do this sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[09:18] <sucka> gord: i am not sure
[09:18] <iGraphiX> It's faster, and close your browser while doing it.
[09:19] <Jordan_U> sucka, What is the application?
[09:19] <Qrawl> !ipv6
[09:19] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:19] <sucka> Jordan_U: it is LPL Language Proof and Logic
[09:19] <lacostej> so noone interested in looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/216927 with me ? :)
[09:20] <les> how can i read from a /dev/ttyUSB0 device from the terminal?
[09:20] <boeing> pengo, is that drive a usb key?
[09:20] <nick_> how do you login to termina
[09:20] <pengo> boeing: yes
[09:21] <nick_> do you have to put password and udername in
[09:21] <ikonia> nick_: just use synaptic if your not comfortable with a terminal
[09:21] <iGraphiX> nick_: First create your UNIX password
[09:21] <boeing> http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/11637.html
[09:21] <gord> sucka: its a educationaltool right? boolean logic etc ?
[09:21] <boeing> to pengo
[09:21] <iGraphiX> Do this in terminal: sudo passwd root
[09:21] <ikonia> iGraphiX: no!
[09:21] <nick_> igraphix: unix password?
[09:21] <iGraphiX> Then follow the instructions.
[09:21] <pengo> boeing: thanks
[09:21] <iGraphiX> yes.
[09:21] <ikonia> iGraphiX: we do not recommend that
[09:21] <Jordan_U> sucka, http://ggww2.stanford.edu/GUS/lpl/faq.jsp#LinuxPackageInstall claims that they provide .deb installers ( which you would just need to double click )
[09:21] <sucka> gord: yes
[09:21] <ov1d1u> hi
[09:21] <Naithin|AFK> Hey guys, assuming a fairly well defragged drive; does using Wubi and a virtual drive image impact performance all that much?
[09:21] <nick_> ikonia: i want to get familiar with the terminal
[09:22] <ikonia> iGraphiX: we do not recommend that, and even less so to new users
[09:22] <iGraphiX> Well, he must know it, too, he will need it eventually.
[09:22] <nikitis> Question:  If I have 3 harddrives, and Windows XP is on harddrive 1 and /boot is on harddrive 2, will that create a problem during ubuntu installation for grub?
[09:22] <tobmalf> considering debian for my hand-me-down MacBookPro; comments welcome
[09:22] <ov1d1u> I have a problem with installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu 8.04
[09:22] <ikonia> iGraphiX: no
[09:22] <Deathserver> where did that file you gave me go to ?
[09:22] <ikonia> nick_: very admirable
[09:22] <TB`> How's got 8.04 up and running then? Is it all good?
[09:22] <iGraphiX> Ovidiu, what seems to be the problem?
[09:22] <ikonia> nick_: you won't need a password to use the terminal
[09:22] <ikonia> TB`: try it
[09:22] <boeing> pengo, and fstab is for permanancy,eg.a new hdd so i dont think u need to change there
[09:22] <TB`> How are you finding it so far ikonia?
[09:22] <ov1d1u> My PC freez at 24% (sometimes at 27%) when it's copy the files
[09:22] <ikonia> nick_: open a terminal from the applications accessories menu
[09:22] <ikonia> TB`: try it for yourself
[09:22] <tobmalf> \.. it's already building the kernel
[09:22] <l2s> hi
[09:22] <dystopianray> TB`: I use kubuntu and I think this is the best release yet, much better than 7.10
[09:22] <abli> Hi! having installed hardy, and kubuntu-desktop on it apparently automounting in gnome broke: it works if I use a kde session, but in gnome sessions if I plug in the usb thumbdrive, it doesn't get mounted. judging from dmesg it gets recognized correctly. What should I check?
[09:22] <nick_> ikonia: yip
[09:23] <TB`> dystopianray: excellent
[09:23] <nikitis> Anyone?
[09:23] <ikonia> nick_: then "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[09:23] <corbett> Zloog:  what do u think of this           http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[09:23] <Line_> ok, distaster alert: unbutu 8.04 install cd -> selected install ubuntu -> i was not prompted on what i would like to do with  my partitions -> now i've lost my raid array
[09:23] <l2s> I am using the hardy heron alt version and did a sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[09:23] <Line_> am i screwed?
[09:23] <tobmalf>  so, anything wrong? The range of IP I would like pg to listen is 10.1.1.0 (0..255)
[09:23] <sucka> Jordan_U: ive tried double clicking the deb installed but then what do i do run in terminal or what?
[09:23] <gord> sucka: hmm, well let me explain breifly, RPM is the Red Hat Package manager, designed for a different flavour of linux, we'd recoomne dusing APT desighned for this ubuntu flavour....but u cant i think, its only avaiilable in rpm for you. u have no real cjhoice but to try,. normally rpm scause future troubles that apt doesnt
[09:23] <l2s> it just hangs on the screen and never gets past 0% apt-get update and upgrade work fine
[09:23] <ikonia> Line_: data gone
[09:23] <l2s> anyone know if hardy heron broke tasksel?
[09:23] <baddog> :/
[09:24] <Sajuukkhar> guys if i insert my flash drive, where will it be in terms of root?
[09:24] <nikitis> l2s: servers are heavily bogged down now
[09:24] <gord> sucka: rpm's arent totally evil, just not optimum, and arent supported
[09:24]  * baddog feels sorry for Line_
[09:24] <Line_> lovely how can i install ubuntu onto a raid array?
[09:24] <tobmalf>  i had jamals help already
[09:24] <Scorchin> hi, ever since the update to 8.04, my mount points do not work. I've updated any changes to name /etc/* in the fstab yet it won't show the drives as files when mounted, only their respective GB sizes
[09:24] <l2s> is there any other way to install it ?
[09:24] <ikonia> Line_: use a supported raid card/technology
[09:24] <sucka> gord: i see
[09:24] <asc> Sajuukkhar: usually in a subdirectory of /media
[09:24] <nick_> where can i learn about the terminal and the commands
[09:24] <Sajuukkhar> mmk
[09:24] <notsniw> hi.. i want to add another hdd. what is the easiest way to partition/format/add it? i installed gparted, but i wont work. when i run it, it wont stop scanning the system..
[09:24] <Jordan_U> sucka, Can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -L <package name>" ?
[09:24] <l2s> its been waiting 10 minutes and not moving
[09:24] <ikonia> nick_: http://www.tldp.org
[09:24] <Sajuukkhar> its just that i cant find it there
[09:24] <Sajuukkhar> im running ubuntu in recovery mode
[09:24] <Line_> is Gigabyte technologies GsataII supported?
[09:24] <nikitis> l2s: yea took 20 mins for me to install gcc
[09:24] <sucka> gord: i know that it works fine cause i installed it on 7.10
[09:24] <Sajuukkhar> cos of a huge line of problems
[09:25] <Sajuukkhar> im backing up my system
[09:25] <sucka> gord: i can try
[09:25] <ikonia> Line_: fakeraid which is what your using is not really a supported/stable platform
[09:25] <corbett> maxtor external hard drive problem any advice?    http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[09:25] <Sajuukkhar> and reformatting
[09:25] <l2s> ah
[09:25] <asc> sajukkhar: Is it mounted? check df -h, it would be the last item on the list
[09:25] <gord> sucka: well, at your own risk....i never had a problem that i could fix tho :)
[09:25] <Sajuukkhar> k lemme check
[09:25] <Line_> should i utilize my onboard nvidia raid controller? or will i need a hardware solution?
[09:25] <gord> coulkdnt fox rofl
[09:25] <l2s> wish they would use bittorrent only to distribute new releases
[09:25] <sucka> couldnt?
[09:25] <sucka> haha
[09:25] <Naithin|AFK> Hey guys, assuming a fairly well defragged drive; does using Wubi and a virtual drive image impact performance all that much?
[09:25] <ikonia> Line_: onboard nvidia controller = fake raid
[09:25] <Line_> wow
[09:25] <gord> somebody buy me a new kdb and fingers
[09:25] <asc> They do, it's just that some bonehead took it off the main download page a couple releases back :p
[09:26] <Sajuukkhar> nope
[09:26] <Sajuukkhar> not there
[09:26] <nikitis> Grub Question:  If my Bios boots SDA with windows on it, then I go to install ubuntu on SDB.  Where will grub write the boot loader?
[09:26] <Sajuukkhar> hsould i try another usb port?
[09:26] <bazhang> Naithin|AFK: wubi is never going to be that fast; better to move it to an lvm or use unetbootin
[09:26] <iGraphiX> ov1d1u: Have you checked the CD, it's perhaps the CD, if not, try to check your hard-drive, do a defrag, check MBR and repair it, then re-create partitions
[09:26] <ov1d1u> isn't the CD
[09:26] <ov1d1u> i have testet with 3 cd's
[09:26] <Line_> anyone know a way for me to recover files from a destroyed raid0 (2 drives) ?
[09:26] <ov1d1u> two kubuntu cds and one with ubuntu
[09:26] <les> how can i read from a /dev/ttyUSB0 device from the terminal?
[09:26] <ikonia> Line_: it's gone
[09:27] <Line_> oiy
[09:27] <iGraphiX> Check the MD5
[09:27] <asc> Sajuukkhar: Nah, just mount it manually. Uh, do 'ls /dev/sd*' It'll list a couple things. The flash drive's partition should be the last item on the list.
[09:27] <Ziroday> les: you mean mount it?
[09:27] <icqnumber> !md5
[09:27] <Naithin|AFK> bazhang: Thanks baz. So I can take that to say then that there is significant and noticeable impact by using Wubi? Ah well. Will be worth a try at least, want to see if I can coax my X-Fi card to work under a 32bit linux install this time around. heh
[09:27] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:27] <Line_> alright, so if i wish to install ubuntu on my current configuration i will need to use just one drive until i can find a hardware raid solution?
[09:27] <nikitis> Grub Question: If my Bios boots SDA with windows on it, then I go to install ubuntu on SDB. Where will grub write the boot loader?
[09:27] <ikonia> Line_: or use linux software raid, but that is a much more complex solution
[09:27] <l2s> btw ebay is real cheap for ide raid controllers
[09:27] <ikonia> nikitis: should be sda
[09:28] <Line_> alrighty
[09:28] <memetali> I have a keyboard layout problem can anyone help
[09:28] <asc> Sajuukkhar: run 'sudo mount /dev/sd__ /mnt' where sd__ is the last item on the list, and it'll mount it on /mnt
[09:28] <l2s> look for 3ware 7506-4 or -2
[09:28] <Line_> thanks again ikonia
[09:28] <JCSmith1337> If I have an Intel Quadcore 6600 processor, which flavor of Hardy Heron should I get?  32bit or 64bit?
[09:28] <Jordan_U> l2s, That's fakeraid though
[09:28] <l2s> less than 30 bucs
[09:28] <nikitis> ikonia: will it do it automatically?  Or do I have to tell it sda?
[09:28] <l2s> no its not
[09:28] <ikonia> JCSmith1337: depends on your need
[09:28] <l2s> its a real ide raid card not software raid
[09:28] <OsamaK> What's Ubuntu DVD?
[09:28] <les> how can i read from a /dev/ttyUSB0 device from the terminal?
[09:28] <ikonia> nikitis: should do it auto
[09:28] <Sajuukkhar> o i get it
[09:28] <OsamaK> Does it includes all versions?
[09:28] <asc> JCSmith1337: Flash and some video codecs sometimes don't like to work with 64-bit
[09:28] <Sajuukkhar> im running in recovery mode
[09:28] <JCSmith1337> ikonia: is 32bit more stable?
[09:28] <Sajuukkhar> whence why i cant see it
[09:28] <ikonia> JCSmith1337: not really no
[09:28] <asc> Aha.
[09:29] <OsamaK> ikonia: Mr. Helper :-)
[09:29] <Maxdamantus> les, just output it to the terminal? dd if=/dev/ttyUSB0
[09:29] <hugol1> jeanre or exaile
[09:29] <Sajuukkhar> ok then
[09:29] <OsamaK> ikonia: What's Ubuntu DVD?
[09:29] <Sajuukkhar> i shall reboot
[09:29] <l2s> great cards going cheap
[09:29] <gluer> think i preferred #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <ikonia> OsamaK: more cmoplete repos
[09:29] <nikitis> JCSmith1337: more packages are supported with 32-bit
[09:29] <Sajuukkhar> but how do i boot only to terminal and not to gnome
[09:29] <OsamaK> ikonia: Does it includes all versions?
[09:29] <tobmalf> http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/download.htm.. Installing an undelete program can overwrite your file :).. ccleaner is okay, but not the end all
[09:29] <JCSmith1337> nikitis:  thanks :D
[09:29] <DracoZA> please can someone help me, my system was running perfectly and now its just screwed!
[09:29] <asc> nikitis: Really? Which ones?
[09:29] <ikonia> it includes the repos - not versions
[09:29] <nikitis> JCSmith1337: not really a performance difference
[09:29] <OsamaK> ikonia: repos?
[09:30] <nikitis> JCSmith1337: 32-bit will still use all 4 cores
[09:30] <ikonia> OsamaK: software repositories, sorry
[09:30] <iGraphiX> :)
[09:30] <JCSmith1337> nikitis:  thanks that was my next question
[09:30] <JCSmith1337> Looks like im off to grab the 32 bit
[09:30] <asc> JCSmith1337: There can be a performance difference actually. For example, I noticed a 30% reduction in CPU with h.64 playback with 64-bit.
[09:30] <JCSmith1337> thanks so much!
[09:30] <Fritzel> where do you change the pointer theme?
[09:30] <arbrandes> Hey dudes, NFS4 problem: can't connect to an export on a Gutsy server, with the error: "mount.nfs4: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported".  It worked just before the upgrade to Hardy.  Any suggestions?
[09:31] <tobmalf> I dont get it why people hate Hillary though.. UNTIL.. until I learn about this guy Peter Paul
[09:31] <nikitis> JCSmith1337: but what good is performance if you can't do anything with it
[09:31] <iGraphiX> For GeeXboX users: http://zchan.homeunix.net/pub/Ubuntu.APP/GeeXboX/
[09:31] <asc> he's already gone.
[09:31] <DracoZA> how dows ubuntu boot up without a xorg.conf ?
[09:31] <hbaum> hei
[09:31] <asc> Also, I'd love to know what one can't do with 64-bit
[09:31] <Jordan_U> tobmalf, Try #politics
[09:31] <Naithin|AFK> Does this release of the 64bit kernel work with Intel C2D chips?  I heard that it wasn't so well supported with the 7.04 release.
[09:31] <Sajuukkhar> it doesnt
[09:31] <ikonia> DracoZA: it's dynamic
[09:31] <Sajuukkhar> my xorg screwed up too draco
[09:31] <asc> Naithin|AFK: Yes, it works.
[09:32] <IndyGunFreak> Fritzel: right click your desktop, change background, click the theme tab, whatever theme you have enabled(its probably labeled custom), click modify, then click the "pointer" tab
[09:32] <Sajuukkhar> i suggest reformatting and installing fresh
[09:32] <DracoZA> ikonia dynamic ?
[09:32] <Naithin|AFK> Thanks Asc.
[09:32] <ikonia> Naithin|AFK: you heard wrong
[09:32] <Deathserver> dell inspiron 1525 video acceleration problems any thing i can do?
[09:32] <Fritzel> IndyGunFreak, excellent thank you
[09:32] <ikonia> DracoZA: xorg trys to work out your hardware settings and is overriddent by the xorg config file
[09:32] <iGraphiX> DracoZA and Sajuukkhar: You guys tried the restricted software? E.g. nVidia.
[09:32] <arbrandes> iGraphiX, i did, working fine here.
[09:32] <iGraphiX> Yes, here too.
[09:32] <Sajuukkhar> igraphic shall i link you to my post on ubuntuforums?
[09:33] <iGraphiX> At some point takes control of your xorg. And I guess they are having this problem.
[09:33] <DracoZA> ikonia ok, does nvidia-settings have a seperate conf file of some sort ?
[09:33] <iGraphiX> Sajuukkhar, yes, please.
[09:33] <ikonia> DracoZA: that normally runs in memory
[09:33] <ikonia> DracoZA: changes would have to be written to xorg.conf
[09:33] <Maxdamantus> DracoZA, nvidia-settings save to the normal Xorg.conf
[09:33] <iGraphiX> Sajuukkhar, read what ikonia just wrote.
[09:33] <Maxdamantus> It does backups though, I think.
[09:33] <sephiroth> hey have any of you managed to network into a PS3?
[09:33] <dny> UGH, my sound keeps going out, and I have to restart for it to work again.  Is there a way to restart ALSA or something? :/
[09:33] <sephiroth> im tryna send music over
[09:34] <Ziroday> How do I get hyperlinks in pidgin and thunderbird to open up in firefox?
[09:34] <DracoZA> Maxdamantus will it read the backups if no xorg.conf exists ?
[09:34] <Rafik> hello :)
[09:34] <Maxdamantus> DracoZA, no.
[09:34] <ikonia> DracoZA: no
[09:34] <Sajuukkhar> just wait on
[09:34] <ikonia> DracoZA: you have to tell it to read the files
[09:34] <Maxdamantus> X looks for /etc/x11/Xorg.conf
[09:34] <Maxdamantus> If it doesn't exist, it'll guess some settings./
[09:35] <Koheleth> I have installed Ubuntu 64bit alongside Vista, but now I want Ubuntu 32bit because of program problems, if I just reinstall will it use the 64 bit partitioning etc or install along side the 64bit?
[09:35] <teban> hi, how can i auto mount partitions on hardy? gutsy used to mount them automatically... hardy doesn't
[09:35] <Rafik> please, I've a probleme with an USB flash disk.. KINGMAX 1Gb.. gutsy don't detect it at all
[09:35] <Rafik> can anyone help me ?
[09:35] <ikonia> Koheleth: you tell it what partition to use
[09:35] <Maxdamantus> teban, /etc/fstab?
[09:35] <Sajuukkhar> my problem
[09:35] <Sajuukkhar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765574
[09:35] <OsamaK> ikonia: That's meaning all programs that can be installed?
[09:36] <ikonia> OsamaK: all the ones written to the cd
[09:36] <teban> yeah i've read about that... but i don't know exactly what i have to add to that file
[09:36] <ikonia> OsamaK: dvd sorry
[09:36] <Ziroday> Rafik: there should be know issues with flash disk can you pastebin fdisk -l please
[09:36] <Koheleth> ikonia: I hate messing with partitions :(
[09:36] <Sajuukkhar> but
[09:36] <ikonia> Koheleth: "select partition /dev/sda2" is not "messing with partitions"
[09:36] <teban> the partitions are /media/sda1 and /media/sda5
[09:36] <OsamaK> ikonia: you need a cup of tea to be more relax :-)
[09:36] <sephiroth> yeah i got gutsy and i keep hearing that its predesessor was so much better
[09:36] <ikonia> OsamaK: what ? I'm relaxed
[09:36] <Sajuukkhar> im asking how do i just boot to the terminal and not to GNOME
[09:37] <Sajuukkhar> recovery mode doesnt see my flash drive
[09:37] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: use recovery mode, or remove gdm from the start up runlevel
[09:37] <Rafik> Ziroday, i send you this in an mp ?
[09:37] <Sajuukkhar> or my Ipod
[09:37] <MrWGW-> the Ubiquity installer failed to install GRUB and didn't tell me about it, it just crashed (really crappy btw for an LTS release I must say)
[09:37] <Koheleth> sda1 will be where my windows install is right
[09:37] <MrWGW-> what is the value that GRUB needs for the initrd?
[09:37] <bazhang> Rafik: this is gutsy? I use the kingmax 8GB and see it fine (though this is Hardy)
[09:37] <Ziroday> Rafik: no in pastebin
[09:37] <tobmalf> z.z don't even remind me of that screw up dushantch
[09:37] <Sajuukkhar> how do i use remove gdm?
[09:37] <ikonia> MrWGW-: none
[09:37] <Ziroday> !paste | Rafik
[09:37] <MrWGW-> and are there any special parameters that the UBuntu kernel requires?
[09:37] <ubotu> Rafik: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[09:37] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: update-rc
[09:37] <neuronyk> hi
[09:37] <sucka> gord: i downloaded the deb file from the lop website and when i opened it it said that it was either corrupt or i di not have permission to open the file
[09:37] <tobmalf> what?
[09:37] <MrWGW-> iknoia: if I just tell it to boot /vmlinuz, the kernel panics
[09:37] <Ziroday> Sajuukkhar: sudo apt-get remove gdm
[09:38] <Sajuukkhar> k
[09:38] <ikonia> Ziroday: no no no no
[09:38] <ikonia> Ziroday: he meant from the start up
[09:38] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, that's not an initrd.
[09:38] <Koheleth> btw can ubuntu be uninstalled?
[09:38] <Maxdamantus> That's a kernel.
[09:38] <Sajuukkhar> i also have no mouse drivers
[09:38] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: that will delete it from your system
[09:38] <Ziroday> Sajuukkhar: wait stop
[09:38] <ikonia> Koheleth: no
[09:38] <Koheleth> :)
[09:38] <ikonia> Koheleth: you have to delete it
[09:38] <Ziroday> ikonia: woops, sorry
[09:38] <Maxdamantus> The initrd is an initial filesystem image.
[09:38] <FloodBot2> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <MrWGW-> Maxdamantus: no duh
[09:38] <Koheleth> I thought so
[09:38] <Ziroday> Sajuukkhar: that command will delete from your system
[09:38] <neuronyk> does anyone know what option i have to give to grub in order to install in safe graphic mode ?
[09:38] <MrWGW-> yes quite, and GRUB says that /initrd.img does't exist, even though it does
[09:38] <IndyGunFreak> Sajuukkhar: why do you need mouse drivers?
[09:38] <tobmalf> id
[09:38] <Sajuukkhar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765574
[09:38] <Sajuukkhar> read
[09:38] <MrWGW-> and if I just tell it to boot /vmlinuz as the kernel, and do not specify an initrd, it panics
[09:38] <Rafik> Ziroday : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64333/ thanks
[09:38] <Baughn> Is there a netboot image for Hardy? There doesn't seem to be one on the cd I downloaded, like the howto suggests
[09:38] <Koheleth> I think sda1 and sda2 are both windows
[09:38] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, so you have /boot as a separate partition?
[09:39] <MrWGW-> I'm primarily ticked that Ubiquity just crashed without even giving me a warning
[09:39] <MrWGW-> no
[09:39] <teban> i read i should add these lines to fstab...
[09:39] <teban> /dev/hda4 /media/nameyouchoose auto defaults 0 1
[09:39] <teban> /dev/hda6 /media/othernameyouchoose auto defaults 0 1
[09:39] <stimpie> I have a scrollwheel on my keyboard, does anyone know how to get that working?
[09:39] <teban> in my case...
[09:39] <Koheleth> so I guess it will be sda3 I will choose to use for Ubuntu
[09:39] <MrWGW-> "/" is one partitoin, there isn't even a separate home
[09:39] <tobmalf> all the time :)
[09:39] <Maxdamantus> Then it doesn't. It'll be under /boot/initrd.img unless you specifically moved it to /
[09:39] <bazhang> Baughn: should be; unetbootin would be the one--what is your host os
[09:39] <ikonia> MrWGW-: looks like your "root" is wrong then
[09:39] <teban> should it be /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 defaults 0 1?
[09:39] <MrWGW-> GRUB is installed on a different partition, the root of a Fedora install
[09:39] <Ziroday> Rafik: can you verify the thumbdrive is working?
[09:39] <MrWGW-> my root is right (hd0,11), I know that because the kernel starts if I boot it
[09:39] <Baughn> bazhang: Host os? Debian, I guess
[09:39] <MrWGW-> it just panics, complaining about not synching
[09:39] <tobmalf> thanks :D
[09:39] <ikonia> MrWGW-: so thats the problem then
[09:40] <MrWGW-> ok, so what parameters does it require?
[09:40] <Rafik> Ziroday : you mean, test it on another computer ?
[09:40] <MrWGW-> what is the address of the initrd, if there is one?
[09:40] <tobmalf> yeah
[09:40] <Ziroday> Rafik: yep
[09:40] <bazhang> Baughn: if you /msg ubotu wubi you can read the ubuntuforums links on unetbootin
[09:40] <iGraphiX> Sajuukkhar, boot a live!cd version, backup your files and do a clean install. If you're trying to repair all those errors it will take more than a clean install, so why bother, just install. And make sure you chose a closer mirror for the updates in the future.
[09:40] <MrWGW-> initrd.img is "not found" by GRUB, even though I know it to be there...
[09:40] <ikonia> MrWGW-: what partition is your ubuntu install on
[09:40] <Ziroday> Rafik: one where you know it works or is Windows/Mac
[09:40] <MrWGW-> (hd0,11)
[09:40] <Sajuukkhar> igraph, my internet downloads 25kb/s
[09:40] <Sajuukkhar> its the fastest i can get
[09:40] <iGraphiX> Auch!
[09:40] <DracoZA> ikonia I use a nvidia card, will my system work properly if I dont use restricted drivers
[09:41] <bazhang> Rafik: did you use the usbkey before? the kingmax I have is fine
[09:41] <MrWGW-> I'm in the GRUB console right now, so if you just tell me what to enter, I'll enter it, and then copy it over into the GRUB menu.lst
[09:41] <ikonia> MrWGW-: initrd is not called "initrd"
[09:41] <Sajuukkhar> and also
[09:41] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, so you have 11 partitions + extended?
[09:41] <Rafik> bazhang : Yes
[09:41] <tobmalf> *nods* try putting a 4 5 after the 1 2 3 6 7
[09:41] <Sajuukkhar> i did put in my ubuntu dapper live cd
[09:41] <Rafik> Ziroday : Ivnt another pc now :(
[09:41] <ikonia> MrWGW-: it's called initrd.img-$version-$type
[09:41] <jeffimperial> thought i was the only 1 getting slow DL
[09:41] <Sajuukkhar> and it didnt see my sajuuk folder
[09:41] <jeffimperial> mine is ~25k
[09:41] <MrWGW-> I have lots of partitions
[09:41] <memetali> KEYBOARD LAYOUT PROBLEM PLEASE HELP
[09:41] <MrWGW-> and its in boot?
[09:41] <OsamaK> ikonia: Is there a DVD that includes all [K,X,ED]Ubuntu?
[09:41] <ikonia> memetali: don't show
[09:41] <ikonia> memetali: don't shout
[09:41] <MrWGW-> hmm the kernel requires the root partition be passed to it as a parameter?
[09:41] <Ziroday> Rafik: okay no prob, just try plugging the thumb drive into a different USB port
[09:41] <ikonia> memetali: it gets you put on ignore
[09:41] <iGraphiX> Then do a clean install with the 8.04 and that's it. There will be some time until next updates anyway.
[09:42] <Baughn> bazhang: I don't have an OS on the machine I'm planning to install ubuntu on
[09:42] <ikonia> OsamaK: they are the same system - different desktops
[09:42] <sucka> gord: and the files that are download dont have an extension of .deb do i change it to it or not?
[09:42] <Baughn> bazhang: That's whyI was looking for a netboot image specifically
[09:42] <memetali> ikonia
[09:42] <OsamaK> I see
[09:42] <visine> where i can configure vga driver ?
[09:42] <tobmalf>  "su user" will keep the same prompt variables the user HAD... it won't cause it to change.. LordFrith, su - user will reset it, so could change the prompt
[09:42] <tobmalf> it does them too. but i haven't played with that much. i just make the round labels usually
[09:43] <MrWGW-> so what would the pathnames be then for the default kernel and initrd in 8.04?
[09:43] <Rafik> Ziroday : I did it : same thing, the usb port is working with my optical mouse
[09:43] <Baughn> bazhang: ..unetbootin looks like it should work, I guess. Wubi, not so much.
[09:43] <Sajuukkhar> i know i can just screw up my xorg file and do it through
[09:43] <ikonia> MrWGW-: mount your partition and look at what version your using
[09:43] <Sajuukkhar> there
[09:43] <memetali> KEYBOARD LAYOUT PROBLEM PLEASE HELP
[09:43] <ikonia> memetali: last request, stop shouting
[09:43] <bazhang> Baughn: need windows for wubi ;]
[09:43] <bazhang> caps memetali
[09:43] <ikonia> memetali: it will end up getting you into trouble
[09:43] <memetali> ok
[09:43] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, check /boot/
[09:43] <MrWGW-> well, are the kernel and initrd in boot the default ones?
[09:43] <tobmalf> i'm having a tough time figuring out which drive is faulty (i have 2 on raid0).. system is in LA. im in bangkok
[09:43] <MrWGW-> or are the default ones those off the root?
[09:43] <ikonia> MrWGW-: just look for your self
[09:44] <ikonia> MrWGW-: mount your ubuntu partition and look in the /boot partition
[09:44] <Ziroday> Rafik: okay then, stuff like usb flash drives nearly always work with linux, check to make sure the flash drive is actually working
[09:44] <MrWGW-> look, how about we make this easier, could anyone post their /boot/grub/menu.lst to Pastebin?
[09:44] <ikonia> MrWGW-: how about we make this clear
[09:44] <ikonia> MrWGW-: look for your self
[09:44] <ikonia> MrWGW-: mount the ubuntu partition
[09:44] <Maxdamantus> http://p.facepwn.com/25
[09:44] <Maxdamantus> ^ MrWGW-
[09:44] <MrWGW-> ty Max
[09:45] <Rafik> Ziroday : Thanks, I'll check with another computer, the fact is that I'havnt used it for a week :(
[09:45] <preme> I just installed Ubuntu and works just fine. downloaded a google mail notifier for linux and unpacked in the terminal and started it and it works fine. BUT if i close the terminal window that i opened the program with, the program closes aswell.
[09:45] <preme> and if I would like that program to autostart where to go?
[09:45] <Ziroday> Rafik: sorry think it might be naft, if it works on a different comp come back
[09:45] <Maxdamantus> prem, press alt + f2, run it there.
[09:45] <Maxdamantus> Afk.
[09:45] <cjsstables> Good Morning.  Anyone here knowledgeable with joining an ubuntu client to SME Server?  I have some questions
[09:46] <Rafik> Ziroday : ok . thank you for your assistance
[09:46] <bazhang> preme: installed from where? some random website or repos
[09:46] <Ziroday> Rafik: no problem
[09:46] <tobmalf> ican't help you...no mplayer on my server
[09:46] <preme> insalled i don't know i configured it with ./notifer.py
[09:46] <preme> and a config box came up and then worked
[09:46] <bazhang> preme: just install from the repos
[09:46] <preme> bazhang:  can i speak with you in private?
[09:46] <bazhang> better to do it in channel preme
[09:47] <preme> what is the repos?
[09:47] <artenius> prem: you could run it in screen and detach, or append it with an &
[09:47] <arstanj> Hi, is there problems with mirrors? I can't seem like install new stuff with apt-get install
[09:47] <preme> & ?
[09:47] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install gmail-notify preme
[09:47] <artenius> prem: do what bazhang says
[09:47] <XceII> preme:  synaptic
[09:47] <bazhang> arstanj: may be slow from the recent release of hardy
[09:47] <hang3r> Does anyone know why I can't share a directory, I keep getting the following error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[09:48] <arstanj> bazhang: yeah, might be
[09:48] <preme> hm ok gonna try that
[09:48] <MrWGW-> I'd assume its still possible to go root=/dev/sda12 as opposed to using the device ID?
[09:48] <arstanj> bazhang: I try other repos still same
[09:48] <MrWGW-> also does the rootfs need to be mounted read only?
[09:48] <preme> I need to read a good manual. I don't even know where to put installed programs and such
[09:48] <bazhang> arstanj: please pastebin sources.list
[09:49] <preme> used to the windows setup
[09:49] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: i've not tried gmail-notify, checkgmail works nicely though
[09:49] <preme> but Im willing to learn so thanks for the help
[09:49] <MrWGW-> and also, will anything break if I don't give it the "quiet" and "splash" params?  I prefer a non-quiet boot to aid in troubleshooting
[09:49] <bazhang> preme: you don t need to it will do it for you
[09:49] <doogers> Hi!
[09:49] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[09:49] <XceII> preme:  youll get the hang of it,
[09:49] <preme> IndyGunFreak: does it works with google mail?
[09:49] <MrWGW-> preme: use Add/Remove Software, or the Synaptic Package Manager, its fully automatic
[09:49] <artenius> prem: If you use the synaptic package manager, it will put things in the right place for you.
[09:49] <doogers> it's possible have the wiki code of ubuntu?
[09:49] <MrWGW-> almost, but not entirely unlike an "iTunes Style Interface" perhaps
[09:49] <bazhang> preme: you may also try checkgmail
[09:49] <ikonia> doogers: it's an open source product
[09:49] <asc> Does a default install have any tool that can display the size of a non-mounted partition?
[09:49] <preme> MrWGW-: but is google notifier there?
[09:50] <lalalala> ...........................
[09:50] <MrWGW-> maybe, look
[09:50] <ikonia> lalalala: stop !
[09:50] <arj> asc: cfdisk
[09:50] <neeto> My firefox 3 install (that I didn't need nor want) that came with 8.04 won't even load. Even when I change the profile settings to default.
[09:50] <XceII> preme:  it is also in addremove
[09:50] <IndyGunFreak> preme: yes,... quite well actually... ony thing i've found is you have to manually add it to your startup programs so it starts on boot, beyond that though, i love it.. you can delete mails, mark spam, etc, w/o even loggig into your account
[09:50] <doogers> ikonia: what's its name?
[09:50] <ikonia> doogers: it's on the bottom of the pages
[09:50] <Ziroday> neeto: then install firefox 2
[09:50] <bazhang> lalalala: do you have a question or just want attention
[09:50] <asc> arj: Thanks
[09:50] <lalalala>  anyone gets darkage of camelot to work?
[09:51] <doogers> ikonia: where?
[09:51] <neeto> Ziroday: righo
[09:51] <lalalala> i asked zillion times
[09:51] <Sajuukkhar> is there a shortcut to access terminal in GNOME without a mouse?
[09:51] <bazhang> lalalala: ask in #winehq or check appdb
[09:51] <arj> Sajuukkhar: alt-f2 -> gnome-terminal -> enter
[09:51] <arj> (that's one way that works at least)
[09:51] <eckesicle> I have my .evolution from a previous unix installation. Evolution does not seem to recognize my old settings if I just put it in ~/.evolution though. Is there anyway to import the settings?
[09:51] <Sajuukkhar> k
[09:52] <Fritzel> I can't change pointer themes via appearance even though the option is there, does compiz or any other package fight with those settings for pointer themes?
[09:52] <Ziroday> Sajuukkhar: you can create a keyboard shortcut in Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:52] <bazhang> !appdb | lalalala
[09:52] <ubotu> lalalala: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:52] <ikonia> doogers: your right, it's gone, one moment
[09:52] <lalalala> !wine
[09:52] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:52] <Sajuukkhar> ziro i cant use my mouse
[09:52] <MrWGW-> actually, GRUB says it can't find the initrd, although I can guarantee you its there
[09:52] <preme> didn't find it in add program
[09:52] <doogers> ikonia: thanks
[09:52] <MrWGW-> will the system boot without the initrd?
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> preme: its in the repositories
[09:52] <IndyGunFreak> preme: system/admin/synaptic
[09:52] <arbrandes> MrWGW-, no, it won't
[09:52] <MrWGW-> its an ext3 FS
[09:52] <hang3r> Does anyone know why I can't share a directory, I keep getting the following error: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[09:52]  * MrWGW- fears there might be some nasty bug with GRUB
[09:53] <unop> hang3r, do you need sudo there?
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> preme: do a search for checkgmail  it will pop up
[09:53] <MrWGW-> why that pathetic Ubiquity installer couldn't have just done its job I can't imagine, in my experience Ubiquity is one of the most brittle and untrustworthy installers of any Linux distro - I'd be using a different distro except I need LTSP
[09:53] <jeffimperial> I can't get my upgrade to work for a variety of reasons.. is there any way that i can in some way "automate" the transfer of all my stuff (docs, DLs, folders, torrents, mails, etc.) from Gutsy?
[09:53]  * MrWGW- sighs
[09:53] <DracoZA> how can I reset all themes/icons and other cosmetics to ubuntu defaults ?
[09:53] <preme> oh another "packer" so you guys almost never install programs that are not in the synaptic or the add/remove program?
[09:53] <XceII> preme:  system\administration\synaptic package manager.....at the top...use the search
[09:53] <ikonia> MrWGW-: there is not
[09:53] <hang3r> unop, This is from the gui, I'll try running nautilus as root and see what happens
[09:53] <IndyGunFreak> preme: synaptic is generally the way to go...
[09:53] <arbrandes> MrWGW-, haven't had any problems with it.
[09:53] <preme> cool
[09:54] <preme> how to add it to the autostart? so I don't have to start it myself every time?
[09:54] <tobmalf> check /etc/postgresql-common/user_clusters and the ilk
[09:54] <bazhang> MrWGW-: no problems here; you multi-booting?
[09:54] <Fritzel> er wait no it did change my pointers sorta
[09:54] <Fritzel> it only changed some of them
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> preme: just make sure you install checkgmail and not kcheckgmail
[09:54] <IndyGunFreak> unless your using kdE of course
[09:54] <Sajuukkhar> booyeah!
[09:54] <bazhang> capital KDE ;]
[09:55] <XceII> lol
[09:55]  * IndyGunFreak never capitalizes kde..lol
[09:55] <arstanj> How to remove a package with all the config and init scripts altogether? apt-get remove --purge?
[09:55] <doogers> ikonia: nothing?
[09:55] <MrWGW-> bazhang: yes
[09:55] <preme> yes I took checkgmail , runnin on gnome
[09:55] <tobmalf>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[09:55] <MrWGW-> and Ubuntu tends to puke all over my GRUB config
[09:55] <ikonia> doogers: no, I can't find the link any more
[09:55] <bazhang> MrWGW-: that is the likely source then
[09:55] <MrWGW-> for that matter, I'm at a loss as to why GRUB can't find the Ubuntu initrd
[09:55] <IndyGunFreak> preme: let it install...
[09:55] <MrWGW-> well frankly, most distros handle multibooting just fine
[09:55] <khecim> hello, can some one please post checksum for file "ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso", because there is no checksum on "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes" web page
[09:55] <ikonia> MrWGW-: what is the exact error your getting
[09:56] <abli> Hi! having installed hardy, and kubuntu-desktop on it apparently automounting in gnome broke: it works if I use a kde session, but in gnome sessions if I plug in the usb thumbdrive, it doesn't get mounted. judging from dmesg it gets recognized correctly. What should I check?
[09:56] <hang3r> unop, cheers, wasn't thinking, been a late night waiting for ubuntu release :)
[09:56] <MrWGW-> */the path of initrd/*: File not found
[09:56] <bazhang> MrWGW-: multi-boot many distros here; ubuntu is one of the best at playing with others imo
[09:56] <icqnumber> lalalala, you do not really need wine, you can intall windows and linux on one computer, side by side, to play in windows, and to do the rest in linux
[09:56] <preme> IndyGunFreak: it's installed
[09:56] <ikonia> MrWGW-: the path should just be /
[09:56] <MrWGW-> where */the path of initrd/* == whatever I entered in
[09:56] <icqnumber> khecim, ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/linux/ubuntu/releases/hardy/MD5SUMS
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> preme: ok, applications/internet Gmail checker
[09:56] <IndyGunFreak> and set up your account
[09:56] <ikonia> MrWGW-: paste your menu.lst please.
[09:56] <MrWGW-> well, that's difficult since its on the other box
[09:56] <preme> nothing happends when i click it though
[09:57] <Fujisan> seveas de dwaas :)
[09:57] <MrWGW-> but hold on
[09:57] <ikonia> MrWGW-: put it on a floppy/usb-stick something
[09:57] <preme> come now just a little slow
[09:57] <unop> hang3r, well, i'm not sure why you were getting that , though sudo shouldnt have been necessary - but anyway
[09:57] <Fujisan> hin guys
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> preme: you should get a window to configure your gmail account
[09:57] <XceII> preme:  its because you did not uninstall the last one,
[09:57] <elkbuntu> Fujisan, this is a support channel, not a social channel
[09:57] <preme> works it came
[09:57] <tobmalf> the last one, can't remember full name.. it had the word 'services' in it though
[09:57] <jeffimperial> I can't get my upgrade to work for a variety of reasons.. is there any way that i can in some way "automate" the transfer of all my stuff (docs, DLs, folders, torrents, mails, etc.) from Gutsy?
[09:57] <arstanj> bazhang: How to remove package with all configs/init scripts altogether?
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> preme: once you set it up with your account, you should see an envelope in your taskbar...
[09:57] <IndyGunFreak> it will be red when you get mail
[09:58] <preme> IndyGunFreak: yes I see it. Cool ubuntu is smooth
[09:58] <bazhang> arstanj: the purge option
[09:58] <preme> will it start everytime I reboot my computer?
[09:58] <Fujisan> whats the equivalent of ctrl+alt+delete on ubuntu?
[09:58] <IndyGunFreak> preme: now you need to add checkgmail to your startup programs
[09:58] <preme> :)
[09:58] <arstanj> bazhang: apt-get remove --purge apache2?
[09:58] <Fujisan> sometimes my ubuntu locks app
[09:58] <bazhang> Fujisan: what does that do?
[09:58] <Fujisan> and i need that function
[09:58] <ikonia> Fujisan: didn't you get in trouble for asking about ctrl+alt+delete yesterday
[09:58] <IndyGunFreak> preme: click SYstem/Preferences/Sessions
[09:59] <Fujisan> no
[09:59] <Fujisan> that wasnt me
[09:59] <Fujisan> i never been here before
[09:59] <elkbuntu> Fujisan, you have so.
[09:59] <Myrtti> Fujisan: depends on what you try to get with pressing those buttons
[09:59] <bazhang> Fujisan: saw you yesterday
[09:59] <ikonia> Fujisan: yes, you did you where banned yesteday
[09:59] <Ubuntu_4_l1fe> Fujisan: you need the system monitor
[09:59] <Fujisan> no that wasnt me
[09:59] <Zasch> Is there any way to mount a CD image in Ubuntu?
[09:59] <bazhang> !ot | Fujisan
[09:59] <ubotu> Fujisan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:59] <sucka> ahh do you guys know that wireless bar thing that tells you which wireless netowrk ur connected to and the signal strength in bars/.. and its usually in the notification area... i was moving my bars around and i lost it.. how can i get it back?
[09:59] <preme> IndyGunFreak: when I take add there it ask for a command. what is the command to start checkgmail?
[09:59] <arstanj> bazhang: it still kept /etc/apache2 and /etc/init.d/apache2 files
[10:00] <IndyGunFreak> preme: this exactly     checkgmail
[10:00] <ikonia> Zasch: mount -o loop
[10:00] <Fujisan> No i mean the equivalent of ctrl+alt+delte to bring up the system manager when the system locks up??
[10:00] <Fujisan> thats a fair question
[10:00] <bazhang> arstanj: how about synaptic remove completely
[10:00] <preme> is there any shortcut to open a terminal?
[10:00] <Sajuukkhar> alt f2
[10:00] <Sajuukkhar> in gnome
[10:00] <Fujisan> because i have to press reset on my box everytime ubuntu locks up
[10:00] <jeffimperial> preme: make ur own?
[10:01] <Sajuukkhar> u cant use ur mouse either?
[10:01] <bazhang> preme: alt f2 gnome-terminal
[10:01] <IndyGunFreak> preme: i always just put one in the panel
[10:01] <Armored_Azrae1> Anyone know how to make epiphany use kerberos tokens?
[10:01] <arstanj> bahzang: what do you mean?
[10:01] <ikonia> Fujisan: if your kernel panics your locked
[10:01] <Armored_Azrae1> err, not epiphany
[10:01] <Armored_Azrae1> evolution
[10:01] <arstanj> bazhang: it's a server
[10:01] <Fujisan> and it annoys me
[10:01] <hang3r> unop, well it appears to be a little borked in any case, guest account doesn't work and I can't create or write to files in the directory... Time to get dirty with smb.conf again *sigh* :(
[10:01] <Myrtti> Fujisan: remap those keys to launch gnome-system-monitor
[10:01] <Ubuntu_4_l1fe> you have to edit your own shortcuts
[10:01] <Divot> Hi, I'm configuring my xorg.conf manually for a rather complex setup and I was wondering if there was any way of working out what pieces of hardware are on which pci bus. This is for the line: Busid "PCI:1:9:0" for example
[10:01] <bazhang> arstanj: my apologies--perhaps aptitude then
[10:01] <finger> hello, can anybody help me with metacity?
[10:01] <MrWGW-> http://pastie.caboo.se/186690
[10:01] <preme> damn I got alot to learn hehe
[10:01] <unop> hang3r, or just modify the permissions on the directory being shared - which is probably what you ought to do anyway.
[10:01] <Sajuukkhar> ok thanks to the guy who gave me that shortcut for the terminal
[10:02] <preme> thanks alot!
[10:02] <bazhang> finger what is your question please specify
[10:02] <Sajuukkhar> u have saved my school work
[10:02] <tobmalf> You should really consider that RAM upgrade... or why not a new machine?. So, I just re-installed Ubuntu, X flavour, latest version... is there a GUI configuration for the fourth and fifth mouse buttons yet?
[10:02] <Sajuukkhar> thank you alot
[10:02] <MrWGW-> note that that's just the Ubuntu entry
[10:02] <Fujisan> remap how Myrtti?
[10:02] <majikins> hi - I want to setup a file server for ubuntu clients
[10:02] <Fujisan> i dont know much about linux hence why i am using ubuntu
[10:02] <Myrtti> Fujisan: system - preferences - keyboard shortcuts
[10:02] <XceII> preme:  you could also right click your tray and add to pannel and in accessories youll see an terminal icon
[10:02] <Fritzel> what is the file name that sets what screenlets start at login, the Myip screenlet absolutely refuses not to start
[10:03] <tobmalf> system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts will let you set a shortcut for the terminal
[10:03] <finger> thx! bazhang: metacity keeps crashing whenever compiz starts
[10:03] <Fujisan> and this will work even when my system locks up Myrtti?
[10:03] <majikins> my googling only seems to come accross articles for windows clients
[10:03] <bazhang> preme: many just add the icon to the channel for easy clicking
[10:03] <Fujisan> just like the reset button?
[10:03] <bazhang> preme sorry I meant panel
[10:03] <ikonia> Fujisan: if your system is hard locked, you need to reset it
[10:03] <elkbuntu> Fujisan, it'll work as well as the windows equivalent works when windows locks up.
[10:03] <jeffimperial> majikins
[10:03] <IndyGunFreak> XceII: oddly enough, that doesn't work w/ hardy
[10:03] <Myrtti> Fujisan: well if it locks, you need to reset it, same with Windows
[10:03] <majikins> is there a server distribution/howto for file server for linux clients
[10:03] <majikins> ?
[10:03] <XceII> it did 4 me
[10:03] <ikonia> majikins: what do you want to do
[10:04] <Fujisan> no windows has ctr+alt+delete
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> XceII: in hardy?.. its not even in the list
[10:04] <XceII> o yes it is
[10:04] <majikins> when clients log in, drive is mapped from file server
[10:04] <jeffimperial> majikins, have u tried adding "ubuntu" at the end of ur keyword string?
[10:04] <arstanj> bazhang: ok I just did apt-get remove --purge apache2
[10:04] <Fujisan> actually my ubuntu locked up more than my vista
[10:04] <IndyGunFreak> XceII: well i must be missing it then.. i just drug it from the accessories menu.
[10:04] <preme> is the panel where by default firefox, Evolution mail and a ? icon is at?
[10:04] <ikonia> majikins: you want to use https://help.ubuntu.com and look at domain server
[10:04] <XceII> i always have one there.
[10:04] <Myrtti> Fujisan: and it's doesn't help at all if it's REALLY locked up
[10:04] <Fujisan> and there is no ctrl+alt+delete function that isnt malicious?
[10:04] <ikonia> majikins: or "auto mount"
[10:04] <ikonia> majikins: depending
[10:04] <bazhang> !vista | Fujisan
[10:04] <ubotu> Fujisan: vista is the new 'operating system' by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org and !windows
[10:04] <majikins> cool - I will try that
[10:04] <ikonia> Fujisan: as you where told yesterady - NO
[10:05] <IndyGunFreak> XceII: i don't know, terminal isn't in my list of add to panel applets, it was in Gutsy, but not in hardy
[10:05] <arstanj> bazhang: then I still see apache2 in etc, so i temp. moved them, but when I try reinstall apache2 it doesn't put /etc/apache2 back
[10:05] <MrWGW-> there we go, got it
[10:05] <Sajuukkhar> ok one more question
[10:05] <Flannel> Fujisan: alt-sysreq REISUB
[10:05] <tobmalf> don't you asked this yesterday?. you have got sollution with eval()
[10:05] <Fujisan> who did that?
[10:05] <Myrtti> does it matter
[10:05] <Myrtti> no
[10:05] <Fujisan> i am seeking help and i get the remove
[10:05] <Myrtti> move on
[10:05] <ikonia> MrWGW-: it's working or you have the file
[10:05] <bazhang> Fujisan: stop now please
[10:05] <MrWGW-> its working
[10:05] <unknownman> hi friends, i cant find a good mirror for DVD download, do you know any
[10:05] <MrWGW-> I posted a link to the file several lines up :-P
[10:05] <jeffimperial> Fujisan, i thought u said that wasnt u
[10:05] <ikonia> MrWGW-: can you explain the issue
[10:05] <XceII> IndyGunFreak:  click application launcher, its in accessories
[10:05] <tobmalf> there is no way either party can get a majority to support a "liberation" of Iran with ground troops
[10:05] <ikonia> MrWGW-: sorry, I missed the link
[10:05] <arstanj> bazhang: so I guess there should be an option to install totally new setup with new configs?
[10:06] <preme> which msn clone messenger do you guys prefer?
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> XceII: oh ok.. i was used to it being right there.
[10:06] <MrWGW-> the boot process seems rather slow though, so it mgiht be stuck
[10:06] <ikonia> MrWGW-: as in what was the problem
[10:06] <Sajuukkhar> actually 2, first one : how do i find my log files from my dapper>hardy update?
[10:06] <bazhang> arstanj: this is odd; that should do it
[10:06] <elkbuntu> tobmalf, not here. this is a support channel not a social or political one
[10:06] <MrWGW-> its been at the phase of apparently loading the CD ROM driver for the past 60 seconds or so
[10:06] <jeffimperial> I can't get my upgrade to work for a variety of reasons.. is there any way that i can in some way "automate" the transfer of all my stuff (docs, DLs, folders, torrents, mails, etc.) from Gutsy?
[10:06] <m3> how do I install a wacom bamboo tablet?
[10:06] <Sajuukkhar> 2, how do i update though terminal
[10:06]  * MrWGW- wonders if Ubiquity failed, just slightly to complete the intall
[10:06] <bazhang> preme: amsn may work or pidgin
[10:06] <tobmalf> my Linux is a little rusty, but login.conf should exist and have a proper value for "openfiles"
[10:06] <ikonia> MrWGW-: I've just checked the last log, your link never came through tot eh channel
[10:06] <Sajuukkhar> m3, you dont :)
[10:06] <ikonia> yes it did
[10:06] <tobmalf> works it came
[10:06] <ikonia> MrWGW-: sorry it did
[10:06] <Flannel> Fujisan: hold alt-sysreq , then type the following: r e i s u b
[10:06] <IndyGunFreak> preme: if you don't use video chat, i'd recommend pidgin..
[10:06] <preme> I have pidgin now works fine but gonna check out aMsn aswell then
[10:06] <XceII> preme:  pidgin is pretty simple
[10:07] <Fujisan> uhm the dark overlord is a saint and philanthropist who doesnt give a free os to the rich western world to make money to give to the kids in Africa it might be me but that vista thing in the bot is rude and i will personally contact the head of Ubuntu Mark Shuttlework ( i am persistent believe me) and address it
[10:07] <preme> ok
[10:07] <Fujisan> thanks
[10:07] <Fujisan> remove me now
[10:07] <ikonia> MrWGW-: why where you using /boot ?
[10:07] <arstanj> bazhang: yeah, purge seems not working, the system still knows that I had apache2 previously, so it's trying to use back old configs(but I moved them)
[10:07] <Myrtti> !offtopic | Fujisan
[10:07] <ubotu> Fujisan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:07] <tobmalf> I've got to start doing that :/
[10:07] <m3> Sajuukkhar: I hope you have more information than that...
[10:07] <Myrtti> Fujisan: you're fully capable of parting the channel all by yourself
[10:07] <eike> hi, whats the trick to install the ati driver 8.4 in hardy 64?
[10:07] <preme> is there any way to turn off the sound that comes like if Iam using bakspace and there is no characters left to delete it makes a sound
[10:07] <IndyGunFreak> Myrtti: but then nobody would care he left.. :)
[10:07] <bashca> hi there  please  help me on how set wireless networking with  win pc
[10:07] <MrWGW-> ikonia, what do you suggest?  I was under the assumption, based on Maxdamantus's comments that /boot was where the default kernels were
[10:08] <boeing> bashca, ##windows
[10:08] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, that's correct.
[10:08] <ikonia> MrWGW-: thats correct, but the "root" option (hd0,11) sets grub to where the stage1 files are (/boot) so / should work
[10:08] <jeffimperial> i promise this is the last time i say this
[10:08] <Sajuukkhar> how do i do update from GNOME run> Terminal?
[10:08] <jeffimperial> I can't get my upgrade to work for a variety of reasons.. is there any way that i can in some way "automate" the transfer of all my stuff (docs, DLs, folders, torrents, mails, etc.) from Gutsy?
[10:08] <ikonia> MrWGW-: /boot is only needed in certain layouts
[10:08] <MrWGW-> (hd0,11) is /
[10:09] <MrWGW-> at any rate, that doesn't explain why the boot process has mysteriously stopped...
[10:09] <bashca> boeing, am using ubuntu i want to join his home network  using wireless with router ???
[10:09] <MrWGW-> do you see anything missing in terms of kernel parameters?
[10:09] <ikonia> MrWGW-: ahhhh ok , sorry
[10:09] <myIRC> just testing...
[10:09] <venil> how come my update manager says "new distribution 7.10 is uvailable", when 8.04 is out, is there any way i can update 7.04 to 8.04 bypassing 7.10
[10:09] <ikonia> MrWGW-: I thought your (hd0,11) was your boot partition
[10:09] <MrWGW-> wait, nvm, I see what I left out
[10:09] <MrWGW-> nope
[10:09] <Maxdamantus> MrWGW-, try pressing alt + f2 at the beginning of the boot.
[10:09] <wild_oscar> howdi!
[10:09] <bazhang> venil: nay
[10:09] <MrWGW-> what does that do?
[10:09] <wild_oscar> could someone have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4782811#post4782811
[10:09] <boeing> bashca, samba
[10:09] <keisangi> hi there.. i'm searching a way to easily display free disk space .. is there's any gnome applet  that can show free space ?
[10:09] <wild_oscar> there seems to be a problem with wireless connections
[10:10] <Maxdamantus> Takes away the boot logo. So you can see text as it boots.
[10:10] <wild_oscar> which someone else has also detected
[10:10] <bashca> i did but stile i cant read  his file  ??
[10:10] <venil> so, i should do 7.10 and then 8.04 will be uvailable??
[10:10] <MrWGW-> brb
[10:10] <bazhang> venil: aye
[10:10] <XceII> venil:  ya
[10:10] <bashca> boeing, i did  but stile  i can't read  his file
[10:10] <ikonia> Maxdamantus: apologies didn't mean to step on toes, I was only getting half the info
[10:10] <venil> bazhang: XceII: cheers guys
[10:10] <jeffimperial> keisangi: Applications > Disk Isage Analyzer (for gutsy at least)
[10:11] <XceII> ok
[10:11] <jeanre> hi all
[10:11] <Maxdamantus> ikonia, you didn't step on my toes.
[10:11] <jeanre> anyone here care to give me a hand with my sound issues
[10:11] <ikonia> Maxdamantus: conflicting information  to wild_oscar
[10:11] <ikonia> oops
[10:11] <boeing> boeing, does ur cardname appear in dmesg?
[10:11] <ikonia> Maxdamantus: to MrWGW-
[10:11] <Maxdamantus> Ah.
[10:11] <tobmalf> hi all, i'm having some recursion woes....i'm trying to print a directory listing based off an array.... here is the array data source: http://pastebin.ca/979805.. here is my function and the output: http://pastebin.ca/979853.. any help? =(
[10:11] <keisangi> jeffimperial, this is overkill .. i'm searching more simple thing.. some really simple applet for the gnome panel
[10:12] <Sajuukkhar> how do i install mouse drivers through terminal, anyone?
[10:12] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: you don't need mouse drivers
[10:12] <Guillaum3> whats the size on the dist update?
[10:12] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: X11 should deal with that
[10:12] <ikonia> Guillaum3: depends on your system
[10:12] <Maxdamantus> tobmalf, wrong channel? ##php\
[10:12] <boeing> tobmalf, u can use system("command") in c++ to do any system-command including manipulated printing
[10:12] <Sajuukkhar> X11 isnt dealing with that
[10:12] <tobmalf> i think utf8
[10:12] <Sajuukkhar> infact its doing nothing
[10:12] <Divot> hi, can hardy support more than two monitors? I understand this may be complicated and hard to set up but I'd like to know just so that I'm not attempting to do something that's actually impossible
[10:12] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: why not, whats the problem
[10:12] <Maxdamantus> boeing, it's PHP.
[10:12] <Sajuukkhar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765574
[10:13] <ikonia> Divot: X11 can support many monitors
[10:13] <Sajuukkhar> read it
[10:13] <boeing> oh, sry
[10:13] <Maxdamantus> tobmalf, exec() has a similar result to system() in C/C++.
[10:13] <Divot> cheers
[10:13] <tobmalf> check to see if the wireless module is loaded.. that's step a
[10:13] <MrWGW-> ok, got it
[10:13] <MrWGW-> finally
[10:13] <Guillaum3> can we go 'in general'
[10:13] <Maxdamantus> (Or if you have PCNTL loaded, pcntl_exec will basically do the same as system())
[10:13] <Guillaum3> concerning size of the update
[10:13] <MrWGW-> I would file a bug report against your Ubiquity installer except that would be too nice :-P
the question is can xorg and yes it can
[10:13] <Guillaum3> using ubuntu desktop
[10:13] <wild_oscar> tobmalf: was that to me?
[10:13] <tobmalf> wild_oscar: thinks. too.  cause it to finish updates then check the $xml
[10:13] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: do you have a wacome device ?
[10:13] <Sajuukkhar> yeah
[10:13] <venil> is 8.04 solving Dell inspiron XXX problem with no switching display back on, when opening laptop lid?
[10:14] <Sajuukkhar> that doesnt work either
[10:14] <wild_oscar> tobmalf: ?
[10:14] <Sajuukkhar> im about to reformat it anyway
[10:14] <tobmalf> wild_oscar: you betcha
[10:14] <DGS> Hello All !!    Ubuntu (and desktop linux) neworn here  ....please have patience for my future dumb questions
[10:14] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: thats odd, can I see the xorg log please in a pastebin
[10:14] <JunJun> hi there
[10:14] <Sajuukkhar> i can try dude
[10:14] <tobmalf> Same here DM.. I dual boot XP / Ubuntu.
[10:14] <Sajuukkhar> gimme a sec
[10:14] <arstanj> DGS: whats up! welcome to ubuntu!
[10:14] <Taip_script> Sveiki...
[10:14] <wild_oscar> tobmalf: I don't understand what you're saying
[10:15] <tobmalf>  No, but gimme a sec, and I'll see what I can do
[10:15] <dagon^> hello
[10:15] <wild_oscar> tobmalf: ok
[10:15] <jeffimperial> anyone know a good backup tool for Gutsy?
[10:15] <tobmalf> wild_oscar: sort of. are africans doing in europe? .  why would you want
[10:15] <tobmalf> wild_oscar: maybe it's hardcoded in bash script: how can i make php print the curl request. so your process isn't it?
[10:15] <DGS> tks arstanj :)   ....just checking things out here ....big room
[10:15] <JunJun> I have a question about new 8.04 ver: vmware is not working anymore. Anyone can help, please?
[10:16] <Sajuukkhar> ok ikonia
[10:16] <dagon^> same for me JunJun
[10:16] <tobmalf> like a typewriter effect
[10:16] <Sajuukkhar> hwo do i use pastebin?
[10:16] <gan> from where can i get the source for rtlinux
[10:16] <Sajuukkhar> cani just transfer it to you?
[10:16] <arstanj> DGS: yeah, when you have a problem try asking some person
[10:16] <Maxdamantus> gan, http://kernel.org/
[10:16] <JunJun> well, I'm not alone. ;)
[10:16] <DGS> k
[10:16]  * N3bunel saluta
[10:16] <darkfritz2> hi... i have a problem..
[10:17] <arstanj> DGS: since when using linux?
[10:17] <Maxdamantus> Wait, nvm. Thought that was a mistype.
[10:17] <jeffimperial> !backup
[10:17] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[10:17] <gregorovius> I just installed 8.04... the resolution app only lets me set to 1024x768, while I want to use 1152x864. I can set it with nvidia-settings, but I don't understand the new xorg.conf... it's almost empty
[10:17] <jeffimperial> oh it was THAT simple?
[10:17] <gan> Maxdamantus, i am asking the source for rtlinux kernel not for ordinary
[10:17] <dagon^> I get the following when trying to run the vmware-config.pl -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64337/
[10:17] <gregorovius> I'm using the nvidia binary drivers, btw
[10:17] <darkfritz2> i want to install under hardy my LCD... and under gutsy u could go in the menu monitor and graphic settings... but now in hardy this option is missing
just add the line
[10:18] <darkfritz2> where can i find it?
[10:18] <icqnumber> is there any picture/screenshot of ubuntu's GRUB?
[10:18] <darkfritz2> or how can i configure my lcd?
[10:18] <Maxdamantus> dagon^, are you using any-any-update?
[10:18] <wild_oscar> Sajuukkhar: copy things to pastebin and get the link
[10:18] <gregorovius> insmod, think I should file a bug?
[10:18] <gregorovius> or is it a known issue?
[10:18] <JunJun> yes, I used anyany-update, no luck
[10:18] <chris_> im getting much lagg watching wmv in mplayer
[10:18] <bay> uuuuu
[10:18] <chris_> how to fix this
[10:18] <Sajuukkhar> mm k
no just add the res to the xorg and you are good
[10:19] <gan> Maxdamantus, are u getting me
[10:19] <Armored_Azrae1> Anyone know how to make evolution accept kerberos tokens as something to use in GSSAPI?
[10:19] <Maxdamantus> gan, nope. Havn't used RTLinux.
[10:19] <tobmalf> BadSneakers Explain why
[10:19] <dagon^> Maxdamantus; say what? :S
[10:19] <insmod> SubSection "Display"
[10:19] <insmod>                 Modes           "1280x1024"     "1152x864"      "1024x768"     "832x624"        "800x600"       "720x400"       "640x480"        EndSubSection
[10:20] <insmod> etc
[10:20] <gan> Maxdamantus, ok
[10:20] <Maxdamantus> dagon^, any-any.. You're trying to use vmware-server, right?
[10:20] <mattycoze> hey everyone i need help installing/compiling "carwhisperer", I don't understand why i'm getting this error when i run the "sudo make install" cmd; http://pastebin.com/m326e523b
[10:20] <tobmalf> multiple proccesor core ?
[10:20] <dagon^> Maxdamantus; yes.
[10:20] <eike> hi, what packet do i need to install to retreive libGL.so.1? i'm trying to install the ati driver 8.4 on hardy 64
[10:20] <JunJun> Maxdamantus: me too :)
[10:20] <Maxdamantus> dagon^, http://platan.vc.cvut.cz/ftp/pub/vmware/vmware-any-any-update115.tar.gz <-- Extract that, and run the any-any-update as root.
[10:20] <c> i don't ' know why I can't connect my laptop to linksys wireless point even though I put the right keyphrase?
[10:20] <biabia> using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel. is there a setting i might need to change?
[10:21] <chris_> im getting much lagg watching wmv in mplayer why i have codecs installed
[10:21] <Maxdamantus> It'll fix the vmware-config script, and start it for you.
[10:21] <gan> tell me from where i can download the source for rtlinux
[10:21] <jeanre> I hate my sound drivers
[10:21] <jeanre> !!!!
[10:21] <tzfardea> oh
[10:21] <gregorovius> k, thanks
[10:21] <ronartos> why there's no LVM option in ubuntu installation
[10:21] <xepra> anyone here xen savvy?
[10:21] <dagon^> Maxdamantus; I'll try that, will return with info in a while
[10:21] <chris_> maybe need another video player any suggestions
[10:21] <tobmalf> We have a secure server.
[10:21] <ronartos> How can I install ubuntu desktop with LVM
[10:22] <xepra> ronartos:  I think you may need to use the alternate installer
[10:22] <xepra> at least you did with 7.10
[10:22] <eike> oh, okay, i have libGL.so.1, but why can't i create the package?
[10:22] <x1250> does someone have a ndiswrapper tutorial for hardy or something that will work on hardy?
[10:22] <jeanre> FFS
[10:22] <xepra> anyone here xen savvy?
[10:22] <JunJun> Maxdamantus: i already tried anyany-update, should I try to fix vmware-config somehow?
[10:22] <mattycoze> is anyone able to help me? i'm trying to compiling "carwhisperer", I get this error when i run the "sudo make install" cmd; http://pastebin.com/m326e523b
[10:22] <ronartos> xepra: I have to download alternate installer?
[10:22] <tobmalf> maybe need another video player any suggestions
[10:23] <xepra> you can try looking at the boot options
[10:23] <jeanre> does also not by default support snd-hda-intel
[10:23] <xepra> but I am pretty sure you had to in 7.10, I don't know about 8.04
[10:23] <Maxdamantus> JunJun, you could try #vmware. They probably know more about it then this channel.
[10:23] <jeffimperial> should the terminal be unable to unlock the admin directory [/var/lib/dpkg/] if the orange update manager icon is on?
[10:24] <teamcobra> I have a quick question...  has the "persistent" bootflag changed to something else? I have a usb stick partitioned properly, ext2 partition labeled casper-rw, main partition is fat16, it boots fine without the persistent flag, kicks me to busybox if I use the persistent flag
[10:24] <jeanre> ok this is rediculus
[10:24] <chris_> how to correct lagg in .wmv in mplayer
[10:24] <DGS> just debating on juggling my hdd's around ....and create a multiboot desktop .....I currently have 1 XP desktop with 160gb & 80gb , 1 laptopXP, 1 ubuntu 160gb desktop (newborn), 1 dgstation relook400s with 250gb, 1 Triple-Dragon with 40gb.................thinking of moving 250hd to a desktop, and 80gb back to relook400s.............then I could have 1 desktop with 250gb, and 1 desktop with 2x160gb
[10:24] <SmokeyD> hey people. Where can I find info on the features/improvements of hardy? The release notes only mention possible problems/fixes, not the improvements :)
[10:24] <rsk> jesus what a question chris_
[10:24] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/linux-rt gan
[10:24] <rsk> goto #mplayer
[10:24] <chris_> ?
[10:24] <rsk> and read the channel welcome message
[10:24] <rsk> and go from there
[10:25] <teamcobra> jeanre: I use snd-hda-intel on this box, works over here
[10:25] <eyyYo> I have setup with 'encrypted LVM' on my 7.10 installation. Is this going to work as before, when upgrading to 8.04 via the Update Manager?
[10:25] <chris_> well im rely new to all this
[10:25] <chris_> includeing irc
[10:25] <tobmalf> lol.. are you on a mac?
[10:25] <rsk> ok don't take my advice if you dont want to
[10:25] <chris_> include
[10:25] <Sajuukkhar> ikonia u still here mate?
[10:25] <Mr> I can't get to work the "new login in a window" thing, it says the x server is not configured correctly .... what should I do?
[10:25] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: I am yes
[10:25] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: what model pc do you have?
[10:25] <bazhang> SmokeyD: www.fsckin.com has the details
[10:25] <Sajuukkhar> ok
[10:25] <SmokeyD> thanks bazhang
[10:25] <mattycoze> is anyone able to help me? i'm trying to compiling "carwhisperer", I get this error when i run the "sudo make install" cmd; http://pastebin.com/m326e523b
[10:25] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: acer aspire 4520
[10:26] <gan> bazhang , after compiling how can i know the compiled one is perfect
[10:26] <Sajuukkhar> its in odt format
[10:26] <Sajuukkhar> can u read that?
[10:26] <dagon^> Maxdamantus; I get the same error with the any-any
[10:26] <bazhang> gan no idea sorry
[10:26] <gan> bazhang, ok
[10:26] <palbuddy> any good webpages or advice for running the newest ubuntu and tv out for a laptop?
[10:26] <ikonia> mattycoze: something has not built correctly as the file it wants does not exist, or the install routine is not right
[10:26] <Oprtz> how to minimize welcome screen resoultion? its 1280 x 1024, i want  the welcome screen tobe 1024 x 768?
[10:26] <preme> is there any bit torrent program like uTorrent?
[10:26] <arvind_khadri> mattycoze, did you do ./configure
[10:26] <biabia> using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel. In dmesg it says i need to update driver sd and sr
[10:26] <tobmalf> zunes are horrible
[10:26] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: which hda device does that model have?
[10:27] <Sajuukkhar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765574    <-- Ikonia, go to the bottom and u will find my xorg file, its in odt format
[10:27] <preme> or anyother fast bit torrent cleints
[10:27] <chris_> there is no one even in that channel
[10:27] <jeanre> I tihnk its a nvideo
[10:27] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: not all software requires confiure
[10:27] <jeanre> nvida
[10:27] <mattycoze> arvind_khadri there was no option to ./configure
[10:27] <bazhang> preme: you can utorrent under wine; there are also deluge, azurues, transmission and others
[10:27] <rsk> chris_: there is #mplayer
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: open a terminal and type "lspci" w/o quotes, and see how it idenfiies your sound device..
[10:27] <preme> bazhang: will it run smoothly?
[10:27] <xepra> 8.04 comes with transmission i think
[10:27] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i know that ... :) assumed it was there in his source
[10:27] <IndyGunFreak> xepra: yes it does
[10:27] <mattycoze> ikonia; okay
[10:27] <jeanre> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1
[10:27] <bazhang> preme: they all do
[10:28] <preme> xepra: gonna test it
[10:28] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: if you knew that, why ask ?
[10:28] <arvind_khadri> mattycoze, did you read the requirements document provided
[10:28] <chris_> no one is responding just blank page with my greeting and question
[10:28] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: hm, no clue on that one, hadn't heard of issues w/ that device
[10:28] <palbuddy> also any program that you can use to identify your video card? it's an old laptop and I forgot what I have
[10:28] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i thought he might have it and missed it
[10:28] <rsk> chris_: lies =)
[10:28] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: don't confuse people.
[10:28] <Oprtz> bazhang:  just install ubuntu 8.4, just need to ask, when ubuntu starts (welcome screen, login password screen) the resoultion is 1﻿280 x 1024, i want  the welcome screen tobe 1024 x 768... can i ?
[10:28] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: you persistantly offer random comments to people
[10:28] <Sajuukkhar> ikonia, plz pm me
[10:28] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, sorry
[10:28] <Maxdamantus> dagar, what does "har ingen medlem med namnet" mean?
[10:28] <tobmalf>  scroll to the end of error.log and see what it says the last 2-4 lines.. error.log not errors.log sorry
[10:28] <Mr-Nilsen> Could anyone point in the direction where I could help with ubuntu,wine and wow ? x)
[10:28] <Sajuukkhar> i will brb for a little bit
[10:28] <teamcobra> eyyyo: I have an encrypted lvm here, upgraded to hardy during the alpha, encrypted lvm works fine
[10:28] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: sorry I don't do pm's
[10:29] <Sajuukkhar> o
[10:29] <Sajuukkhar> r u reading my file tho?
[10:29] <Maxdamantus> dagon^ , what does "har ingen medlem med namnet" mean?
[10:29] <negge^> Maxdamantus: it means "No users with that name"
[10:29] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: I've not seen a url for the pastebin of your file
[10:29] <negge^> or "no members"
[10:29] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: sorry if I missed it
[10:29] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok would keep my mouth shut from now on
[10:29] <Sajuukkhar> its at the end of this thread
[10:29] <Sajuukkhar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765574
[10:29] <bazhang> not sure about that Oprtz best to ask xorg gurus here
[10:29] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: thank you
[10:29] <dagon^> Maxdamantus; doesn't have a member with that name. I've got "wrong" nickname
[10:29] <mattycoze> arvind_khadri - there were no lsited requirements, but i found through trial and error that i had to add the libbluetooth-dev file
[10:29] <Mr> whats the point of the system tool's "new login" .... its the same as "change user"
[10:29] <dubby> help Java mozilla plugin doesn't work
[10:29] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: are you using Gutsy or Hardy?
[10:30] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[10:30] <dagon_> now it's correct
[10:30] <jeanre> Gutsy
[10:30] <dubby> I go to mozilla about:plugins and it does not show anything there
[10:30] <guja_nebeska> Is "deb" shell command?
[10:30] <Oprtz> is there any ﻿xorg gurus here :)
[10:30] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: don't know, i know i had a lot of hda issues w/ gutsy, but i got it to work, then i installed Hardy, and it worked out fo the box
[10:30] <dubby> when i go to a site with java applet, it says install plugin, so i do, it says its installed
[10:30] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: thats the config file, I asked for the log file
[10:30] <LordOfThePigs> Hello, I'm trying to get my J2EE application server to listen on port 80, but for some reason, it complains that there is a conflict on that port
[10:30] <Mr-Nilsen> I'v just upgraded to Hardy, and when I try to play wow, the background texture is gone.. I'm runing in opengl but doesn't work =\
[10:31] <Sajuukkhar> where do i find that?
[10:31] <dubby> but when i check about:plugins. nothing is there
[10:31] <LordOfThePigs> however, both netstat and lsof report that nobody uses port 80
[10:31] <preme> xepra: my tracker complained about my transmission version is there an easy way to update?
[10:31] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: /var/log
[10:31] <jeanre> :(
[10:31] <teamcobra> I wonder when persistence broke... worked fine in alpha5/6, never tried w/ beta/rc1, broken in final :/
[10:31] <jeanre> I cant upgrade now
[10:31] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: can you telnet to port 80 ?
[10:31] <LordOfThePigs> So there really is no conflict at all.
[10:31] <Armored_Azrae1> Anyone know how to get evolution to use kerberos tokens?
[10:31] <Kev3124> hey does anyone know what the new taskbar icon effects are listed under in compiz? (icon fly out, upon clicking)
[10:31] <teamcobra> jeanre: why not?
[10:31] <guja_nebeska> Is "deb" shell command?
[10:31] <ikonia> guja_nebeska: no
[10:31] <tobmalf> SubSection "Display".. Modes      "1280x1024"   "1152x864"   "1024x768"   "832x624"    "800x600"    "720x400"    "640x480"    EndSubSection.. etc
[10:31] <SmokeyD> hmm, people. I had a problem with the upgrade to hardy from 7.10. firefox-2 and the firefox-ubuntu-themes were unable to configure because I had firefox still open. I ran dpkg --configure -a now so that is fixed, but the upgrader said it would stop at the end. All packages have been upgraded/installed correctly now, only the "cleaning up" hasn't been done I think. What does that do and can I do it manually?
[10:31] <mattycoze> arvind_khadri there was a kde file i could ahve downloaded but didn't, i'll try that and brb
[10:31] <teamcobra> jeanre: your apt mirror overloaded?
[10:32] <Sajuukkhar> xorg is its name?
[10:32] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: why can't you upgrade?
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> ikonia, how to interpret this then:
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> # Mactel PPA
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ubuntu hardy main
[10:32] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, How would I do that, I mean nothing is listening on port 80 anyway
[10:32] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: xorg.0.log
[10:32] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: I have work to do
[10:32] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, I don't really see how I could connect
[10:32] <Sajuukkhar> funny thing is, i saw that :\
[10:32] <ikonia> guja_nebeska: thats a source file for dpkg
[10:32] <dagon_> Maxdamantus; really don't know why it fails with any-any too, I so need vmware-server running soon :p
[10:32] <Mr> why wont compiz work for another user when I leave a session opened ???
[10:32] <teamcobra> jeanre: ahh :/ well, upgrade when you're done working, it'll fix the sound
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> ikonia, how to get it?
[10:32] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: thats how I was suggesting testing nothing was listening
[10:32] <teamcobra> because I've experienced that one firsthand ;)
[10:32] <guja_nebeska> Go to site and DL-it?
[10:32] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: telnet 127.0.0.1 (or ip) 80
[10:32] <Maxdamantus> dagon_, try #vmware
[10:33] <ikonia> guja_nebeska: put it into your /etc/apt/sourcs.list
[10:33] <dagon_> Maxdamantus; I will, thanks ;)
[10:33] <brainopia> How to return from busybox console to installation process?
[10:33] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, it says "connection refused"
[10:33] <DV8R> test
[10:33] <mbraun_> Hi there, is it by intention that all files at /var/spool/cyrus and /var/lib/cyrus and /var/lib/cyrus are chowned root:root?
[10:33] <bullgard4> What command line tool will indicate the section to which a certain DEB program package belongs?
[10:33] <Kev3124> ﻿does anyone know what the new taskbar icon effects are listed under in compiz? (icon fly out, upon clicking)
[10:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: apt-file ?
[10:33] <mbraun_> at a normal 8.04 installation
[10:33] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: seems pretty solid to assume nothing is running
[10:34] <tobmalf> I would like to encrypt a message to then be dissected by my page. I'd use MD5, but how would I deencrypt it? I just want to hide get variable before the user actually gets to the page
[10:34] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: if it's a java app, are you trying to use something like tomcat ?
[10:34] <Mr-Nilsen> Need help with WoW, wine and hardy heron .. pm me plx =)
[10:34] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, Glassfish actually
[10:34] <Tex-Twil> hello, please can you tell me where can I get help for this kind of substitutions in a script : http://pastebin.com/m7f3af274
[10:34] <ikonia> Mr-Nilsen: people will help in channel when they can
[10:34] <mbraun_> cyrus runns with user cyrus by default, so it's quite braindead to chown the sockets to be unreadable for this user.
[10:34] <bazhang> try #winehq Mr-Nilsen
[10:34] <Mr-Nilsen> ty
[10:34] <regis_> hello,where can i find or what's the command for the Xorg.conf frontend...
[10:34] <brainopia> I'm trying to install ubuntu 8.04 but i hung up at scanning the mirror, what to do?
[10:34] <erUSUL> tobmalf: md5 is a hash not a cipher
[10:34] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, So yeah, pretty much like tomcat
[10:35] <rockysynergy> Right now my laptop is using English. How can I set up the ubuntu to enable another user to have Chinese interface?
[10:35] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: I'm not familier with glassfish, but this sort of issue used to be common with tomcat, in that apache listening on port 80, tomcat listened on an internal port (say 180) but was served up through apache, could it be something similar in that situation
[10:35] <jerzyk86> hi, when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 after i choose “run or install” ubuntu for a sec my display is turn off, i am waiting because cd-rom is stil copy files but display never is turn on. I have motherboard with integrated graphics but i have in pciexpress grf 8800gt. By integrated graphics its works - i nstall ubuntu on itegrated graph and after i plug my gf, but its still turn off my display when i try to run ubuntu. Any idea how to repair
[10:35] <Linus-Trovalds>  if in a torrent client it shows seeders 7(259) what does the figure within the bracket mean?
[10:35] <daning> rockysynergy: check wiki.ubuntu.org.cn
[10:35] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: active ?
[10:35] <ikonia> oops
[10:35] <ikonia> Linus-Trovalds: active seeders
[10:36] <teamcobra> rockysynergy, system/administration/language support?
[10:36] <Linus-Trovalds> and the one outside,i.e. 7?
[10:36] <SmokeyD> anybody can tell me what the "clean up" part of the distro upgrade to Hardy does? Just after all packages have been upgraded.
[10:36] <Sajuukkhar> sigh
[10:36] <ikonia> no, 7 is active 200+ exist
[10:36] <IndyGunFreak> i was thinking the 259 was leechers
[10:36] <teamcobra> rocky: that way, he can change the language to chinese in the gdm login screen
[10:36] <bazhang> rockysynergy: scim for input and language pack to switch interface
[10:36] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, as far as I can tell, there really is nothing on port 80
[10:36] <ikonia> SmokeyD: remove old config files, re-run ldoncif g etc etc
[10:36] <Sajuukkhar> i hate this, i copy the log file to my memory stick, i put it in my windows machine and its not there
[10:36] <tobmalf> erUSUL: is generally used as a self-defense device. can do so as a compile time.  you know there's a balance between outright starvation and oppression
[10:37] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: exactly, but does glasshouse start a container like apache (as in tomcat used to run within apache)
[10:37] <SmokeyD> ikonia: but the new config files have already been applied during package upgrade right?
[10:37] <teamcobra> Sajuukkhar, make sure you properly unmount the mem stick before you remove it
[10:37] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: so the conflict is when started apache is in use
[10:37] <teamcobra> otherwise it'll do that :p
[10:37] <SmokeyD> so just remove .dpk-old files
[10:37] <ikonia> SmokeyD: the ond ones still exist, just general tidy up stuff
[10:37] <Sajuukkhar> how do i do that?
[10:37] <ikonia> SmokeyD: no, more than that as I said in my example
[10:37] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia,  no they don't start apache at all, its completely self contained
[10:37] <Sajuukkhar> unmount (name of drive) ?
[10:37] <erUSUL> tobmalf: ??? i'm not sure i understand you
[10:37] <sucka> whats a good ftp program... i used flashfxp for windows is there anything like this for ubuntu?
[10:37] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: thats that theory out of the window
[10:37] <theunixgeek> I can't get my screen resolution past 1024 x 768 - I want to get it to 1280 x 1024. how can I do this?
[10:37] <x-punk> has anyone here tried the Flock browser? can you recommend it? having an issue with the font rendering in firefox 3 on hardy
[10:37] <SmokeyD> ikonia: ok, is it a specific script I can read so as to see what has to be done?
[10:38] <nikitis> Question, i'm getting an error 17 from grub.  I just did a fresh install of windows then ubuntu on a separate drives.  upon first boot, i get error 17 which is a cannot mount selected partition error  Anyone know why? or what I can do about it?
[10:38] <ikonia> SmokeyD: no, it's not
[10:38] <theunixgeek> x-punk: isn't flock based off firefox
[10:38] <regis_> anyone...i don't find it
[10:38] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, do a re-install of grub
[10:38] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: any guides on how to do that
[10:38] <x-punk> theunixgeek: think it is, but seems to look better regarding the fonts
[10:38] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: as a suggestion, put a 1 second while look in "while true do "nestat -a | grep LIST | grep 80"; sleep 1 ; done
[10:38] <arvind_khadri> !grub | nikitis
[10:38] <ubotu> nikitis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:39] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: then start it and see if something tries to start on it
[10:39] <guja_nebeska> ikonia, I have upgraded Gutsy to Hardy. But when I do nano /etc/apt/sources list, first line is this:  deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016)]/ gutsy main$
[10:39] <guja_nebeska>  Why is it still says Gutsy and not Hardy?
[10:39] <brainopia> How to break installation process of Ubuntu?
[10:39] <SmokeyD> ikonia: there is no way of tracing it? No config file, script, etc? It has to be executed somehow.......
[10:39] <roffe__> For some reason I can't get my microphone to work... I can talk in it and I hear my voice in the speaker, but no software can recognize I'm using it...
[10:39] <Mr> WHere is the famous PulseAudio ?? I can't see it running ???
[10:39] <ikonia> guja_nebeska: remove the cd line
[10:39] <ikonia> SmokeyD: check the dpkg.log
[10:39] <SmokeyD> ok, cool
[10:39] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, already did that, nothing seems to ever bind to port 80
[10:39] <erUSUL> Mr: ps ax | grep pulse
[10:39] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: now thats frustrating
[10:39] <tobmalf> arvind_khadri there was a kde file i could ahve downloaded but didn't, i'll try that and brb
[10:40] <guja_nebeska> ikonia, okay I'll, and how to add that dkpg to sources.list? Just copy-paste at the end of file and save it, or how?
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> tobmalf, ol
[10:40] <theunixgeek> guja_nebeska: what do you mean?
[10:40] <arvind_khadri> tobmalf, s/ol/ok
[10:40] <theunixgeek> guja_nebeska: read the topic: Hardy is OUT :)
[10:40] <tobmalf> erUSUL: see on some dns visionary research. up close to the law.  polygamy is against the law to commit suicide, an old laptop
[10:40] <Mr> erUSUL: but where can I see it visually .... the volume controls for the apps ?
[10:40] <theunixgeek> oh never mind :P
[10:40] <DV8R> t
[10:41] <ikonia> guja_nebeska: thats right
[10:41] <rodolfo> can anyone tell me how to upgrade from 7.10? my image is located on my HD, is there a way to do that without burning on a cd?
[10:41] <josh_> hey is this the right channel to ask for help installing ubuntu?
[10:41] <tobmalf> bug 215442
[10:41] <theunixgeek> guja_nebeska: that's because you upgraded, so synaptic still thinks your original cd is still a reasonable source
[10:41] <theunixgeek> josh_: yes
[10:41] <guja_nebeska> ikonia, okay, let u know if I destroyed something. :)
[10:41] <roffe__> does anyone know why my mic won't get recognized by any program?
[10:41] <josh_> sweet.
[10:41] <guja_nebeska> theunixgeek, but i add stuff to sources.list just by coping text to the EOF and saving it, right_
[10:41] <rodolfo> anyone?
[10:42] <theunixgeek> guja_nebeska: yes
[10:42] <josh_> what partitions do i need to create to install?
[10:42] <erUSUL> Mr: i do not have hardy but the name is pavucontrol pavumeter
[10:42] <erUSUL> Mr: and others
[10:42] <tobmalf> sounds like motorola/freescale
[10:42] <Linus-Trovalds> roffe__, check if ur headphone/speaker is working
[10:42] <theunixgeek> josh_: any partitions
[10:43] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: yeah, I can hear my voice in the speakers even, yet no software accepts the sounds
[10:43] <josh_> huh?  i already have two windows partitions and one data partition.
[10:43] <Samstone|Junior> Hi all
[10:43] <biabia> In dmesg it says i need to update driver sd and sr
[10:43] <josh_> so i would like to make it so that i have the kernal separate from my data
[10:43] <Samstone|Junior> Moin!
[10:43] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, it seems linux applies some kind of special protection to ports below 1024
[10:43] <theunixgeek> josh_: why?
[10:44] <noob-africa> greetings all my good people!
[10:44] <LordOfThePigs> ikonia, which means the user needs some specific permissions to access those private ports
[10:44] <josh_> theunixgeek_: so i can change the kernal without losing the data
[10:44] <tobmalf> the exact thing I was looking for, thanks
[10:44] <Linus-Trovalds> roffe__, in mixer, is mic mute?
[10:44] <simion314> Hi i do not like that the browser(Firefox 3 and opera) eat a lot of CPU(20-50%) even they are in background nad with just onle page open(no evident animation or other thing that can indicate the CPU usage). What is happening? can i setup the browser to eat less cpu (to sleep like other programs do)?
[10:44] <roffe__> no
[10:44] <noob-africa> can anyone assist me with this small problem? how do i merge multiple PDF files into a single PDF file? what application should i use?
[10:44] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: no
[10:45] <ikonia> LordOfThePigs: I've not seen that
[10:45] <gnuskool> noob-africa: greetings
[10:45] <Linus-Trovalds> roffe__, was ur mic listed in the mixer?
[10:45] <josh_> theunixgeek_:  i already have a data partition, so if i could i'd like to keep my data there.
[10:45] <jerzyk86> hi, when i try to install ubuntu 7.10 after i choose “run or install” ubuntu for a sec my monitor is turn off, i am waiting because cd-rom is stil copy files but display never is turn on. I have motherboard with integrated graphics but i have in pciexpress grf 8800gt. By integrated graphics its works - i nstall ubuntu on itegrated graph and after i plug my gf, but its still turn off my monitor when i try to run ubuntu. Any idea how to repair
[10:45] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: yep
[10:45] <noob-africa> Linus-Trovalds: hi! are YOU the great Linus Trovalds?
[10:45] <noob-africa> gnuskool: hi
[10:46] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: I have no idea now
[10:46] <ikonia> noob-africa: his name isn't Trovalds,
[10:46] <noob-africa> ikonia: yea... it's Torvalds, isnt it?
[10:46] <ikonia> yes
[10:46] <noob-africa> ok... anyone can help me with my simple, yet not so simple problem?
[10:47] <josh_> hey, how big should i make my swap file?
[10:47] <IsotropicSpin> is there an Ubuntu server channel?
[10:47] <theunixgeek> IsotropicSpin: #ubuntu-server
[10:47] <IsotropicSpin> cheers
[10:47] <gnuskool> noob-africa: try http://www.accesspdf.com/pdftk/
[10:47] <arvind_khadri> josh_, twice the size of your ram
[10:47] <theunixgeek> I want to get my screen resolution to 1280 x 1024. how can I do this?
[10:47] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: As I say, I can hear my voice in the speakers, so it must work, but any other software absolutely refuses to acknowledge it
[10:47] <noob-africa> gnuskool: i am there already, thanks, but i dont see where i can download and install PDFTK
[10:48] <gan> bazhang, already it is in deb format wat the path u have given .., but i want the source
[10:48] <arvind_khadri> theunixgeek, go to System->Prefernces->Screen resolutions
[10:48] <gnuskool> noob-africa: http://www.accesspdf.com/article.php/20041130153545577
[10:48] <josh_> arvind_khadri:  what if i have a lot of ram?  do i still need it if i have four GB of RAM?
[10:48] <theunixgeek> arvind_khadri: the option is not there
[10:48] <mijac> do someone has a toshiba sattelite ?
[10:48] <noob-africa> gnuskool: thanks... i already saw the download link...
[10:49] <arvind_khadri> josh_, yeah it is necessary
[10:49] <ikonia> josh_: ram + %15 is areasonable guide
[10:49] <ikonia> josh_: but it's totally personal
[10:49] <TwinX> theunixgeek; type in terminal: xrandr to see what your max. resolution is
[10:49] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: twice the size of your ram !
[10:49] <arvind_khadri> theunixgeek, it should be there , i dont know if its not there ...sorry
[10:49] <theunixgeek> TwinX: 1024 x 768
[10:49] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: again, stop making random information
[10:49] <mijac> do someone has a toshiba sattelite ?
[10:49] <mijac> I have a problem with the atheros wifi
[10:50] <dany_21a> where can i set my systemwide keyboard layout (not just for gnome/kde)?
[10:50] <josh_> ikonia:  why does it need about 4.5GB?
[10:50] <mijac> is recognized by the restricted drivers
[10:50] <ikonia> josh_: suspend + overhead
[10:50] <mijac> but does not appears in the networks
[10:50] <TwinX> theunixgeek; if your monitor is able to handle 1280x1024, you cant add the resolution to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:50] <ikonia> josh_: but thats the personal bit
[10:50] <TwinX> can*
[10:50] <ikonia> it depends on your personal situation
[10:50] <dwezl> Hey there.
[10:50] <theunixgeek> TwinX: what do you mean? why can't i?
[10:50] <Invert314> Hardy 8.04 installer doesn't recognize Slamd64 and WindowsXP partitions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766355
[10:50] <TwinX> typo tehu, you can
[10:51] <dwezl> What do I need to install to watch dvds in hardy?
[10:51] <josh_> ikonia: so what does the swap partition do?
[10:51] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: I got it working! I've had issues with it for several weeks since I first downloaded Ubuntu.. but now, I just clicked the mic off and then on again, and it works.. how bizarre
[10:51] <ikonia> josh_: acts as virtual memory
[10:51] <jeanre> ok my sound is really not working
[10:51] <mijac> I have a problem with the atheros wifi, can someone help me, ?
[10:51] <TwinX> theunixgeek; you can
[10:51] <theunixgeek> TwinX: oh. you said "you cant add...." :P
[10:52] <TwinX> theunixgeek; i'm the king of typos :)
[10:52] <ikonia> josh_: you have a reasonable ammount of swap so if you don't expect to use technologies like suspend, then lower the ammount
[10:52] <theunixgeek> :)
[10:52] <TwinX> :)
[10:52] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: you got any other ideas
[10:52] <theunixgeek> TwinX: so, how do I add i?
[10:52] <mijac> I have a problem with the atheros wifi, can someone help me, ?
[10:52] <ikonia> josh_: a reasonable ammount of ram that should read
[10:52] <mijac> I have a problem with the atheros wifi, can someone help me, ?
[10:52] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: not really, other than installing Hardy... googling that device though, it doesnt appear your alone
[10:52] <Linus-Trovalds> roffe__, there is only one mic in my system but my sondcrd supports 5 or 6.
[10:52] <Linus-Trovalds> so all are listed
[10:53] <TwinX> theunixgeek; open /etc/X11/xorg.conf with yor favorite editor
[10:53] <neuro_> bah
[10:53] <jeanre> ok going to upgrade to 8.04
[10:53] <theunixgeek> TwinX: I've gotten that far.  :P
[10:53] <jeanre> ok?
[10:53] <tobmalf> I chose it for 6 SATA ports and 2 CPUs, the server is running 4 VMs and processing video content
[10:53] <gnuskool> noob-africa: heres another http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Text-Editing-Processing/Others/PDF-Split-and-Merge-10743.shtml
[10:53] <Linus-Trovalds> roffe__, so i had to actually fig. which one to choose in my new instaalll
[10:53] <mijac> can someone read me ?
[10:53] <TwinX> theunixgeek; section screen
[10:53] <theunixgeek> ok
[10:53] <roffe__> Linus-Trovalds: ok... I got it working though.. I wrote it a bit further up
[10:54] <whyking> hi
[10:54] <negge^> mijac: yeah
[10:54] <whyking> how can I set what modules in /etc/init.d should get started automatically during boot?
[10:54] <mijac> ooh thank god
[10:54] <mijac> thank you negge
[10:54] <josh_> ikonia:  so i basically need the swap file for when i hibernate, right?  then that means i should have a good sized swap if i put ubuntu onto my laptop?
[10:54] <negge^> :D
[10:54] <mijac> well the thing is about the atheros wifi
[10:54] <wild_oscar> if anyone can have a look at why I need to /etc/init.d/networking restart if I want to access LAN's pc's with wireless: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4784811#post4784811
[10:54] <ikonia> josh_: correct hence ram + %15-ish is an acceptable guideline
[10:55] <ikonia> josh_: but it does depend on your pesonal needs/use
[10:55] <teamcobra> Lord: yeah, root needs to open any  <1024 port
[10:55] <josh_> ikonia: does it need to be a separate partiton?
[10:55] <gnuskool> mijac: !ask
[10:55] <ikonia> josh_: double your ram is insane
[10:55] <ikonia> josh_: swap partition is a seperate partition
[10:55] <mijac> I have a problem with the atheros wifi
[10:55] <tobmalf>  looking in kernel it looks like i have most of the options built in...except for the first and the last. I probably should trim some. ;)
[10:55] <mijac> is recognized by the restricted drivers
[10:55] <mijac> but does not appears in the networks
[10:55] <gnuskool> mijac: state the problem itself
[10:55] <SadDreamer> hello all :)
[10:56] <dany_21a> hello all - where can i set my systemwide keyboard layout (not just for gnome/kde)?
[10:56] <theunixgeek> TwinX: now what?
[10:56] <TwinX> theunixgeek; after saving the file, CTRL ALT BACKSPACE. (no need for reboot)
[10:56] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: how long does a UPGRADE take?
[10:56] <josh_> ikonia: so if i am installing ubuntu through the installer on the live partition, but i want to manually set the partitions, what do i need?
[10:56] <theunixgeek> TwinX: I didn't do anything to it though
[10:56] <jeanre> how many packages isit
[10:56] <nikitis> Ok, i reinstalled grub using "grub-install /dev/sda" and I'm still getting the error 17
[10:56] <ikonia> josh_: the setup/installer program guides you through it
[10:56] <neko> hi people
[10:56] <biabia> In dmesg it says i need to update driver sd and sr, but i cant find any info on how to do it
[10:56] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: right now, probabl quite a while, because the servers are bogged down.. the final release was just released yesterday
[10:57] <theunixgeek> TwinX: you didn't tell me what to do :P just to go to the screen section
[10:57] <Sajuukkhar> ok ikonia, i have the log file
[10:57] <TwinX> theunixgeek; lol, do you see resolution values in Subsection?
[10:57] <mijac> I was looking for that on the web but what I found it didnt help
[10:57] <Sajuukkhar> i cant post it on ubuntu forums cos its 25kb and its odt
[10:57] <theunixgeek> TwinX: there is no subsection
[10:57] <Sajuukkhar> and i cant change it
[10:57] <noob-africa> gnuskool: btw, does PDFTK work in the GNOME or KDE desktops? meaning, does it have a GUI?
[10:57] <josh_> ikonia: it's not guiding me at this point.
[10:57] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: cant we then just try and fix my sound?
[10:57] <SadDreamer> hmm :)
[10:57] <theunixgeek> TwinX: http://theunixgeek.pastebin.com/  < copy the subsection, please :)
[10:57] <ikonia> josh_: what point are you at ?
[10:57] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: might be easier to torrent in a new CD, then do a clean install, depending on how much you have into your install
[10:57] <TwinX> theunixgeek;  ok I'll pastebin how it should look like...
[10:57] <dany_21a> hello all - where can i set my systemwide keyboard layout (not just for gnome/kde)? - Currently i have deadkeys - but used to no dead keys
[10:57] <ikonia> josh_: your installing from the livecd yes/no ?
[10:57] <mijac> did you understrand my problem gnuskool ?
[10:57] <josh_> ikonia: prepare partitions
[10:58] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: quite abit
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: i told you i don't know whats wrong with it.. i can't wave my wand and change that.
[10:58] <josh_> ikonia: yes
[10:58] <teamcobra> jeanre: ITS THE MODULE! I don't want to yell, but I told you the problem, I've seen it first hand, and I've been using linux for 12 years
[10:58] <SadDreamer> hm
[10:58] <ikonia> josh_: select "manual"
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: how long have ou had gutsy installed?
[10:58] <josh_> :ikonia done
[10:58] <TwinX> theunixgeek;  http://theunixgeek.pastebin.com/m1b30e53c
[10:58] <oholiks> gah what is up with gnome-terminal not using bitmapped fonts even though enabled in fontconfig
[10:58] <nikitis> Question what can I do to fix my grub?  I've done a reinstallation of it and i'm still gettiing an error 17.  Please anyone, i've been up all night and i'm tired.
[10:58] <neko> how do i make folder writeable for the groups at creation
[10:58] <teamcobra> but if my word isn't good enough, then don't listen, and sit here and ask the same question instead of fixing it
[10:58] <neko> ?
[10:58] <jeanre> IndyGunFreak: uhm about 4 hours :)
[10:58] <josh_> ikonia: done
[10:58] <jeanre> but I have windows in virtualbox with all my dev tools
[10:58] <dxdemetriou> hi, I had a crash of the updater at the end while was upgrading Gutsy to Hardy, and some packages didin't installed. can I resume the upgrade process?
[10:58] <ikonia> josh_: now create your partitions
[10:58] <theunixgeek> TwinX: thanks
[10:58] <Mr-Nilsen> how do I check if I'm running compiz ?
[10:58] <IndyGunFreak> jeanre: then you dn't have quite a bit into it, don't be a smartass
[10:58] <TwinX> theunixgeek;  np
[10:59] <ikonia> Mr-Nilsen: it's installed by default from ubuntu 7.10 on
[10:59] <josh_> ikonia: what do i create?
[10:59] <mijac> did you understrand my problem gnuskool ?
[10:59] <mijac> did you understrand my problem gnuskool ?
[10:59] <ikonia> josh_: a partition for ubuntu and a partition for swap
[10:59] <MarWell> Any good tools to use in 8.04 for dual screen.. Config-tool of some kind?
[10:59] <TwinX> theunixgeek; just the Subsection
[10:59] <Mr-Nilsen> ikonia:  Ok thanks, how do I turn it off ? x)
[10:59] <josh_> ikonia:  how big should ubuntu be?
[10:59] <jeanre> teamcobra: how do I fix it then?
[10:59] <josh_> ikonia: i'd like to keep my data on a separate partition
[10:59] <nikitis> Question what can I do to fix my grub? I've done a reinstallation of it and i'm still gettiing an error 17. Please anyone, i've been up all night and i'm tired.
[10:59] <ikonia> josh_: it's as big as you need it to be
[11:00] <bonhoffer> how do i add a user to sudodoers
[11:00] <dany_21a> nikitis: to you have two harddrives?
[11:00] <bonhoffer> sudoers
[11:00] <bonhoffer> :)
[11:00] <theunixgeek> TwinX: thank you so much! :D
[11:00] <nikitis> dany_21a: 3 actually
[11:00] <agari> hi all, the hardy livecd doesn't seem to support my wireless driver, so would the installed hardy support it?
[11:00] <TwinX> theunixgeek; lol you're welcome
[11:00] <josh_> ikonia:  i want it to be as small as possible.  i want it to be just the kernal.  i want all applications and data on a separate partition.  if i can...
[11:00] <dany_21a> nikitis: your old grub is still on one, your new on a other drive - your bios loads the wrong drive... try other drives to boot
[11:00] <mrjack> huuh
[11:01] <TwinX> theunixgeek; hold on, you got to remove the # on line 11
[11:01] <theunixgeek> TwinX: I did :)
[11:01] <ikonia> josh_: ok, so you want a 200meg /boot partition a $bigger / partition and a swap partition, so 3 in total
[11:01] <TwinX> cool
[11:01] <TwinX> :)
[11:01] <Sajuukkhar> ikonia can i send the log file to your email?  Im gonna reformat and install now
[11:01] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: put it on the forum
[11:01] <Sajuukkhar> cant
[11:01] <Sajuukkhar> its over 25kb
[11:01] <ikonia> why ?
[11:01] <Sajuukkhar> 20 kb
[11:01] <Sajuukkhar> and its 25 kb
[11:01] <FloodBot2> Sajuukkhar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:01] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: can you put it in a pastebin
[11:02] <Sajuukkhar> its in odt
[11:02] <Sajuukkhar> i couldnt save it as anything else
[11:02] <tobmalf> which hda device does that model have?
[11:02] <josh_> ikonia:  can you tell me what those are for?  i'm doing it as manual as possible(short of the command line) to learn
[11:02] <noob-africa> Sajuukkhar: what version of OpenOffice r u using? 2.4 allows .doc saves
[11:02] <ikonia> josh_: tell you what what is for ?
[11:02] <Sajuukkhar> no mouse noob-africa
[11:03] <Sajuukkhar> and tab doesnt go that far
[11:03] <tobmalf> "Petition the Lord, with Prayer..."
[11:03] <oholiks> can someone help me confirm that emacs key bindings stopped working in email editor in evolution?
[11:03] <noob-africa> Sajuukkhar: why not? mouses are very cheap... lol
[11:03] <Sajuukkhar> its cos X11 is fucked
[11:03] <Sajuukkhar> thats why
[11:03] <dxdemetriou> the upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy crashed before it finished and didn't made a cleanup. can I resume it?
[11:03] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: that language is uncalled for
[11:03] <tobmalf> quite abit
[11:03] <bonhoffer> hmm . . . i don't even have an admin group -- am i screwed??
[11:03] <Sajuukkhar> sorry
[11:03] <kyleabaker> have there been no updates today and yesterday for 8.04? I've been using it for months now and it seems the servers are slow!
[11:03] <tobmalf> you have a better chance at #math
[11:03] <bonhoffer> i was going to make a user a sudoer, by adding them to the admin group
[11:04] <bonhoffer> i imagine if admin does not exist -- then even if i make the group -- they won't be sudoers
[11:04] <bonhoffer> any help? suggestions?
[11:04] <noob-africa> Sajuukkhar: i think u need to dpkg or something like that
[11:04] <ikonia> bonhoffer: why do you not have an admin group
[11:04] <josh_> ikonia: sorry that was really vague.  what is the boot partition for?  what is my bigger partition for?  i already have a data and apps partition for windows.  is there arny way i can put my linux apps and data there?
[11:04] <tobmalf> hi everyone! do you know what are the packages to install the mysql-server??
[11:04] <sucka> how come sending files through amsn never works its so slow??
[11:04] <ikonia> josh_: boot = kernel / = rest, swap = swap
[11:04] <kimmey> tobmalf: mysql-server probably
[11:04] <agari> hi all, i want to figure out why the hardy livecd doesn't detect existing wireless networks
[11:05] <bonhoffer>  sudo adduser me admin produces adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[11:05] <ikonia> bonhoffer: why do you not have an admin group
[11:05] <Sajuukkhar> ikonia i will get u that log soon
[11:05] <bonhoffer> i am using a vps -- server
[11:05] <ikonia> bonhoffer: vps ?
[11:05] <ikonia> bonhoffer: what sa vps
[11:05] <bonhoffer> virtual private server
[11:05] <tobmalf>  my parents bought me a car when I was 17. A used beetle convertable. They paid $4k total (after they had some work done on it)...then, they made me pay them back with monthly payments. Invoices and all.. My sister, on the other hand, got a new VW loaded Jetta at 16.
[11:05] <ikonia> bonhoffer: again - why do you not have an admin group
[11:05] <ikonia> bonhoffer: what version of ubuntu is it running
[11:06] <tobmalf> kimmey: probably. probably
[11:06] <nikitis> dany_21a: ok that didn't work i tried booting from the other two harddrives and got nothin but a blank screen
[11:06] <josh_> ikonia:  will i be able to put my apps and data on the windoows data partition?  if i can  how big should my non- swap, non-boot partition be?
[11:06] <bonhoffer> 7.10
[11:06] <ikonia> josh_: no, you can't use the windows data partition
[11:06] <ikonia> josh_: you need a sperate partition for uubntu
[11:06] <ikonia> bonhoffer: contact your provider then, they have removed the admin group
[11:07] <bonhoffer> how do i find the version -- i am looking at the kernal
[11:07] <bonhoffer> kernel
[11:07] <bonhoffer> 2.6.18
[11:07] <ikonia> bonhoffer: why did you say 7.10 then ?
[11:07] <panda> anyone here have/know where to get the supposed ralink rt2870 2.6.24 patch?
[11:07] <ikonia> bonhoffer: lsb_release -a
[11:07] <bonhoffer> ikonia: that is what i believe
[11:07] <tobmalf> no
[11:07] <JPSmon> now how in bob's name can i make a folder that is shared between two ubuntu's on an ethernet network?
[11:07] <josh_> ikonia:  what about for ubuntu data and ubuntu programs?  can't linux read and write off of ntfs now?
[11:07] <jafo99> hey, is it possible to install and run nvidia drivers in livecd (8.04) mode?
[11:07] <TB`> 8.04
[11:07] <bonhoffer> lsb_release command not found . . . ;)
[11:07] <ikonia> josh_: yes it can, but putting it on a windows partition
[11:07] <ikonia> bonhoffer: this is not an ubuntu box is it......
[11:07] <JPSmon> jafo99: no
[11:08] <DV8R> is ubuntu 32 or 64?
[11:08] <ikonia> DV8R: either
[11:08] <JPSmon> jafo99: live cd doesn't mount the hard driver
[11:08] <ikonia> DV8R: both are available
[11:08] <JPSmon> jafo99: drive
[11:08] <copyofjohan> should uswsuspend support swapfiles?
[11:08] <DV8R> cool
[11:08] <ikonia> josh_: bascilly, don't mix your OS's on one partition
[11:08] <bonhoffer> ikonia: yes it is
[11:08] <JPSmon> can someone help me make a common folder between an ethernet connection?
[11:09] <bonhoffer> but it is stripped down server version
[11:09] <ikonia> bonhoffer: then why does it not have the admin group or lsb_release
[11:09] <jafo99> JPSmon, so? who needs a hd?
[11:09] <Fritzel> does anyone else have a problem with screenlets not remembering your configuration, OR remembering an old configuration that you've attempted to change many times?
[11:09] <nikitis> i swear to christ if someone can't help me with this grub issue i'm going to put a gun in my mount and pull the trigger.
[11:09] <josh_> ikonia:  i have a windows xp partition, a windows vista partition, and then a big data partiton (all ntfs).  how can i make it so that ubuntu (the whole OS) is on a spearate partition(s), and my data is on the data partition?
[11:09] <ikonia> josh_: make another parttion for ubuntu
[11:10] <panda> josh_: Norton Partition Magic
[11:10] <bonhoffer> linode is the provider
[11:10] <sCOTTo> hey guys - i just updated to the latest ubuntu via the update manager.... can someone teach me to stretch my screen over two monitors?
[11:10] <sugarmice> Hi people, I'm trying to automate some package installations; is it possible to force aptitude to accept a particular solution, if it claims it can't install?  For example, I'm trying to install emacs21 on a freshly installed 7.10 machine, and it offers various solutions because some of the dependencies are virtual packages.
[11:10] <kimmey> sCOTTo: if you got a nvidia-card, try the nvidia-config, ive done it that way and it woks good
[11:10] <sCOTTo> kimmey: ati
[11:10] <cwkaya> Hello, i want to do a wireless filetransfer between my pc ( vista ) and my laptop ( ubuntu ) could someone point me to a help page or something please ? have been searching google but didnt found anything useful
[11:11] <ikonia> bonhoffer: they are not ubuntu servers
[11:11] <kimmey> sCOTTo: not sure about ati, sorry
[11:11] <josh_> ikonia:  so i have a 200MB boot partition, a total ram *1.15 swap partition, and then how big for my ubuntu partition if i know all programs and data will be stored on a separate partition?
[11:11] <bonhoffer> that is the distro i loaded
[11:11] <ikonia> bonhoffer: show me in a pastebin "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:12] <ikonia> josh_: all your programs will be stored on the big partition
[11:12] <panda> anyone know about the ralink rt2870 2.6.24 patch?
[11:12] <josh_> ikonia: is there a way to put them on a separate partition?
[11:12] <luigi> !it
[11:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:12] <bonhoffer> http://pastie.caboo.se/186708
[11:12] <tobmalf> It has nothing to do with skill. In fact, I find most college-educated people to be quite dumb and air-headed.
[11:12] <ikonia> josh_: why do you want to
[11:12] <bonhoffer> now i added some stuff there . ..
[11:12] <ikonia> josh_: I don't think you understand how linux works
[11:12] <JPSmon> panda: I'm trying to fix my rt2500 right now
[11:13] <biabia> hardy ububtu..using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel.  In 'dmesg' it says the driver sd and sr need updating, but all I can find on google is bug reports.  cant find how to update the drivers
[11:13] <Fritzel> does anyone else have a problem with screenlets not remembering your configuration, OR remembering an old configuration that you've attempted to change many times?
[11:13] <biabia> or maybe its not reading/loading my fstab?
[11:13] <panda> JPSmon : are you using the driver from ralink?
[11:13] <ikonia> bonhoffer: if you installed this, why does it not have the lsb tools OR the admin group
[11:13] <josh_> ikonia:  easier to back up.  if all my data and programs are on a separate partition, i can just back that up because i don't mind reinstalling my OS's
[11:13] <JPSmon> panda: I'm trying to use every driver available to me :OD  including ndiswrapper
[11:14] <bonhoffer> ikonia: on the irc with their support -- they say i need to type getent group admin ??
[11:14] <Sajuukkhar> Ikonia u here?
[11:14] <ikonia> josh_: store all your data on your windows parttiion then
[11:14] <ikonia> bonhoffer: why ?
[11:14] <ikonia> bonhoffer: did you install this yes/no
[11:14] <panda> JPSmon: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=44133 talks of a kernel patch ... havent had any luck actually finding it
[11:14] <Sajuukkhar> ikonia at the end of the thread, its called sajuuks log http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4788371#post4788371
[11:14] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: thank you
[11:14] <bonhoffer> i did install this via their admin interface
[11:14] <nikitis> I have read every document, reiinstalled grub, and still NOTHING.  i need help from an expert on this grub issue.
[11:14] <ikonia> bonhoffer: right, so "no" then
[11:15] <bonhoffer> so both yes and no
[11:15] <josh_> ikonia:  why do you think i'm installing ubuntu?  ok, so i store the data on the data(no os is on it) partition, but can i put my applications on it as well?
[11:15] <ikonia> bonhoffer: it's a no
[11:15] <bonhoffer> o.k.
[11:15] <JPSmon> panda: im looking into it
[11:15] <ikonia> josh_: right then have 1 partition for ubuntu 1 partition for windows 1 partition for swap then one "shared" data partition for both windows and ubuntu "data"
[11:15] <dxdemetriou> what can I do if the upgrade process crashes at finish leaving uninstalled some packages and without cleanup? reinstall?
[11:15] <Hans> Thanks for your really good help, i come back next time... cu!
[11:16] <Vmax> I tried 8.04.. After choosing LiveCD the ubuntu logo shows for a while and them everything becomes black. Computer is on but the monitor is totaly black. I am using Lenovo T61. Any tips on solution plz?
[11:16] <ikonia> bonhoffer: speak to them and ask why their default installation doesn't put an admin group in place, nor does it put the lsb_tools on
[11:16] <Sajuukkhar> Ikonia --------------> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4788371#post4788371
[11:16] <tobmalf> fdatasync syncs only some of the metadata.
[11:16] <ikonia> Sajuukkhar: I saw it and thanked you for it
[11:16] <Sajuukkhar> o cool
[11:16] <nikitis> I have read every document, reiinstalled grub, and still NOTHING.  i need help from an expert on this grub issue.
[11:16] <bonhoffer> o.k. i am asking them right now
[11:16] <Sajuukkhar> i hate irc being so crowded
[11:16] <Sajuukkhar> ok reformatting my comp
[11:16] <panda> JPSmon: I have contacted Ralink and asked for it via email. Im in singapore and email the Thai support so they should reply soon. Ill let you know
[11:17] <josh_> ikonia: that's what i wanted.  i know how big swap should be, but i still don't know how big to make the ubuntu partition, or how to tell ubuntu to install all programs and data on my data partition.
[11:17] <switchcat> Q: Need a suggestion for a good, quick, easy program to crop an image/section out of a .pdf file and make a gif/jpg/png out of it.
[11:17] <switchcat> thanks
[11:17] <switchcat> currently running 7.10 but that shouldnt matter
[11:17] <ikonia> josh_: the partiton sizes are up to YOU. I dont know how big you want your ubuntu install to be, or how your going to use it. The minimum I'd recommend is 4GB, but you should give as much as you feel you can to allow growth
[11:17] <JPSmon> switchcat: screen shot
[11:18] <nikitis> I have read every document, reiinstalled grub, and still NOTHING.  i need help from an expert on this grub issue.
[11:18] <tobmalf>  but if you're storing stuff like anniversary dates, timestamps are a mess
[11:18] <josh_> iknoia:  what growth?  all programs and data should be installing to the data partition?
[11:18] <ikonia> josh_: nko
[11:18] <ikonia> no
[11:18] <ikonia> josh_: linux doesn't work like that
[11:18] <buliwyf> j #asterisk
[11:18] <buliwyf> argh
[11:18] <josh_> ikonia:  how does it work?
[11:18] <JPSmon> nikitis: what are you trying to do (just curious I can't help you just want to know)
[11:19] <spoown> Hello all ! Does anyone use any blade server ?
[11:19] <slaytanic> he window contents.
[11:19] <nikitis> JPSmon: i'm trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows.  I installed windows on drive 1, then I installed ubuntu on drive two.  Upon first reboot after ubuntu installs.  I'm getting a GRUB error 17.
[11:19] <slaytanic> How can I get opaque window resizing? When I resize a window I get a horrible blue transparent rectangle instead of the window contents.
[11:19] <ikonia> josh_: applications are split out across many directorys and mount points, for example apache web server, that is has the binaires (application) installed in /usr/bin, the config files are held in /etc, the log files are held in /var, to follow what you want, you'd have to have seperate partitions for /usr /var and /etc (you can't have a parttiion for /etC)
[11:20] <nikitis> menu.lst looks correct to me
[11:20] <ikonia> josh_: it's not like windows where everything is stored in program files
[11:21] <josh_> ikonia:  so there's no way i can have my programs on a separate partition from ubuntu(the OS)?  i can't the home directory on the data partiton along with everything else but the OS?
[11:21] <Zasch> Hello. I'm trying to upgrade right now, and it asks me what I want to do about menu.lst. Thing is, I don't know what I want to do :P
[11:21] <josh_> ikonia: **so there's no way i can have my programs on a separate partition from ubuntu(the OS)? i can't keep the home directory on the data partition along with everything else but the OS?
[11:22] <ikonia> josh_: the os is an 11meg file
[11:22] <Vmax> I get black screen during the boot from 8.04 CD. This happens after the ubuntu logo disappear. Any tips?
[11:22] <ikonia> josh_: its hard to seperate the 11meg file away from all the applications that make up "linux" as you think of it
[11:22] <Mr> ok one question that has been bugging me for years almost ......... If I have a game or something that I want to share with everyone ... where, in which folder in the filesystem can I put it so it is accessible to everyone ???
[11:22] <ifireball> josh_: I don't see why you would want to separate the OS from the programs
[11:22] <josh_> ikonia: so you're saying that my programs have to be on the same partition as the OS?
[11:22] <ikonia> Mr: anywhere you want, just share out the folder
[11:22] <ikonia> josh_: no
[11:23] <ikonia> josh_: your not listening
[11:23] <Boredom_inc> Does anybody know of any firefox extensions or something I can do to allow firefox to view PDFs.... other than Adobe as I'd rather use opensource software if at all possible
[11:23]  * NibiruET is away: ....... Be back later folks...bye!
[11:23] <ikonia> josh_: the OS "linux" is an 11meg kernel
[11:23] <Mr> ikonia: just change permissions ?
[11:23] <ikonia> Mr: depends how you want to share it
[11:23] <ikonia> josh_: what your talking about is all the tools around it
[11:23] <jtravnick> Zasch, menu.lst is part of your grub i believe i told it to replace mine
[11:23] <ifireball> josh_: As far as Ubunto goes the programs and the "OS" are parts of the same thing, you use the same tools to maintain and install them, etc.
[11:24] <regis_> hello,i've a problem with nvidia-drivers.../var/log/Xorg.0.log says: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) i previously had envy...but mabe my card is supported by ubuntu now so i want to get rid of it...what should i do?
[11:24] <nikitis> I have read every document, reiinstalled grub, and still NOTHING.  i keep getting an error 17.  I need help from an expert on this grub issue.
[11:24] <Mr> ikonia: I downloaded a game ... which is one big folder and you just open the excecutable file ... and I want other users to be able to see it ...and run it as well.   Also is there a place that is supposed for this type of folders inside /  ?
[11:24] <josh_> ikonia: ok, if ubuntu is not part of the OS, can i keep the ubuntu tools(not programs like firefox) and linux on a separate partition and all my programs on another?
[11:24] <makkbe> howcome songbird is not affected by the wobby windows-effect in compiz?
[11:24] <ikonia> Mr: anywhere you want and open up the permissions
[11:25] <ikonia> josh_: they are all intergrated
[11:25] <ikonia> josh_: eg: firefox is linked into gnome, which is your desktop
[11:25] <Boredom_inc> Does anybody know how to enable PDF viewing in firefox other than through the Adobe plugin?
[11:25] <Tech> hm, wow, got as far as installing an irc client, go me
[11:25] <Mr> ikonia: can I create a folder inside /   ... like  /Shares  ?
[11:25] <ikonia> Mr: if you want
[11:25] <Tux2008> is it possible to run vmware server on 8.04????
[11:25] <Tux2008> I've heard of many issues
[11:25] <Boredom_inc> Anyone at all? :S
[11:25] <JPSmon> nikitis: have you tried   http://www.3till7.net/2007/10/25/grub-error-17   ?
[11:26] <ikonia> Mr: you may want to google "fhs" and "lsb" interms of linux to get more "standerised" approach, but it's up to you
[11:26] <josh_> ikonia:  so you're saying that the desktop is almost like an application in windows?  that it's separate from the OS?
[11:27] <ikonia> josh_: your just not getting it
[11:27] <sCOTTo> hey can someone help - i just upgraded and now it seems i have lost root user priv...
[11:27] <amerio> hey guys I have a laptop Fujitsu li1718 , with Ubuntu hardy 8.04 , wireless driver exists and its in use but but there is no network ! anybody can help?
[11:27] <ikonia> josh_: ubuntu is a package of applications, including "a desktop"
[11:27] <ikonia> josh_: they have to exist togther
[11:27] <Oprtz> how to click on play button / select scene button of any DVD movie under totem player, i cant click on it ? need help
[11:27] <n3o> ubuntu-fr
[11:27] <regis_> mabe i need to remove nvidia driver and to reinstall it... i restart
[11:27] <JPSmon> sCOTTo: in terminal use    sudo -i
[11:27] <sCOTTo> OH! why the change?
[11:28] <sCOTTo> JPSmon: it says it cant resolvemy hostname...
[11:28] <josh_> ikonia:  so i should think of ubuntu as separate from my OS, which would be linux, and think of ubuntu as just a nice set of packaged applications for linux?
[11:28] <JPSmon> sCOTTo: I have _no_  idea.  that little thing worked for me in 7.10.    I have no idea what it means
[11:28] <JPSmon> resolve your hostname?
[11:28] <sCOTTo> weird... im stuck... might have to copy a backup and do a frsh install...
[11:29] <ikonia> josh_: forget it, think of ubuntu as "linux" and you need it all on one partition
 ikonia:  so you're saying that the desktop is almost like an application in windows?  that it's separate from the OS? <- yes, it can be replaced or removed altogether, though it, it itself is not a single application but a multitude of applications
[11:29] <sCOTTo> JPSmon: yeah
[11:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Linux is a kernel. It is responsible for the core jobs, such as interfacing with hardware and managing which applications have access to the CPU. This is what all operating systems do. Ubuntu is a package of software/applications/binaries that run on the linux kernel. GNOME is the GUI (graphical user interface) much like windows uses Explorer.
[11:29] <jrib> sCOTTo: pastebin the exact error
[11:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I know exactly what it is
[11:29] <Oprtz> ﻿how to click on play button / select scene button of any DVD movie under totem player, i cant click on it ?
[11:29] <JPSmon> sCOTTo: you updated via the packages?
[11:29] <sCOTTo> JPSmon: yeah
[11:29] <Koheleth> anyone have a torrent url for 8.04 Heron i386 iso please
[11:29] <sCOTTo> i pasted it in pm for JPSmon
[11:29] <jrib> Koheleth: see the /topic
[11:30] <JPSmon> Koheleth 1 second
[11:30] <icqnumber> !livecd
[11:30] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[11:30] <Koheleth> dont think this client supports topic bars :)
[11:30] <sCOTTo> now i cant even get into synaptic...
[11:30] <ifireball> josh_: Why do you insist on making those distinctions? why ode in matter where the OS ends and the applications begin?
[11:30] <Boredom_inc> sorry ikonia I think I meant to say that to josh :P
[11:30] <JPSmon> Koheleth:  http://isohunt.com/download/41119149/ubuntu.torrent
[11:30] <ifireball> josh_: Why do you insist on making those distinctions? why does it matter where the OS ends and the applications begin?
[11:30] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: not a problem
[11:30] <Koheleth> thanks
[11:31] <icqnumber> what is ubuntu's nick and password for the live cd?
[11:31] <sCOTTo> scott@faithtop:~$ sudo
[11:31] <sCOTTo> sudo: unable to resolve host faithtop
[11:31] <Koheleth> xircon need to work on their irc client a bit :)
[11:31] <ikonia> sCOTTo: put an entry in your hostfile
[11:31] <Boredom_inc> I'm using the pidgin IRC client which isn't my normal client and it's a bit confusing as to who is actually saying what.
[11:31] <JPSmon> sCOTTo:  did you try  sudo -i  ?
[11:31] <sCOTTo> ikonia: cant - i cant get root access???
[11:31] <timo> Is this a hardy channel now ?
[11:31] <jrib> sCOTTo: pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[11:31] <sCOTTo> yes same thing JPSmon
[11:31] <JPSmon> timo yes
[11:31] <Oprtz> icqnumber:  ubuntu wont ask login and pass for livdcd
[11:31] <timo> then helpppppp
[11:31] <ikonia> sCOTTo: you'll have to do it from a recovery shell
[11:31] <icqnumber> Oprtz, it does
[11:32] <sCOTTo> hostname: faithtop
[11:32] <JPSmon> timo we try what's up?
[11:32] <ikonia> jrib: I'm putting a bug togheter on this, it's quite common now as it resolves agaisnt hostname rather than localhost, so any dhcp clients are not going to have hostname setup correctly
[11:32] <josh_> ifireball:  i have my windows set up so that all my windows programs and data are on a separate partition(that i back up about twice a week).  i was hoping i could put all my linux data and applications on it as well
[11:32] <sCOTTo> jrib: it doesnt have faithtop in hosts.
[11:32] <Mr> ikonia: it seems then that placing them in /opt would be a good idea .. heh
[11:32] <timo> I can only get the fial safe session to work and it looks min-gin
[11:32] <jrib> sCOTTo: use the pastebin...
[11:32] <Oprtz> icqnumber:  i m sorry i dont know then
[11:32] <ikonia> Mr: go for it
[11:32] <sCOTTo> ikonia: how do i do that ?
[11:32] <sCOTTo> jrib: sorry ok
[11:32] <Oprtz> ﻿how to click on play button / select scene button of any DVD movie under totem player, i cant click on it ?
[11:33] <icqnumber> any idea ppl?
[11:33] <JPSmon> timo: failsage session?
[11:33] <jrib> ikonia: is this the same as the gethostbyname() error?
[11:33] <Linus-Trovalds> deos ubuntu dvd contain all the main ubuntu repositories?
[11:33] <JPSmon> hehehe fail sage
[11:33] <jrib> Linus-Trovalds: yes
[11:33] <Tech_> umm, can anyone recommend an irc client? I've been using mIRC for 8 years, I do not like the layout of x-chat and even if I like irssi in a certain way, I hate it for not having a clickable nicklist
[11:33] <makkbe> josh_: unlearn what you've learned about windows when using linux :)
[11:33] <icqnumber> Oprtz, it was not the case in 6.10
[11:33] <timo> JPSmon failsafe gnome
[11:33] <ikonia> jrib: I don't know, it appears that sudo is attemping to resolve on gethostbyname()
[11:33] <makkbe> Tech_: irssi
[11:33] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You can do that if you want. It will work but it's no advisable... It's probably a better idea to put your home directory on the partition that you backup. The home directory contains things like the linux equivalent of My Documents.
[11:33] <ifireball> josh_: there is little reason to back up the Linux applications since they can be easily reinstalled with the package manager anyway, WRT to the data, just back up your home directory
[11:33] <ikonia> jrib: I'm not sure if its the same actual bug as the general failure
[11:33] <JPSmon> timo dont know about the failsafe gnome
[11:33] <makkbe> with plugins for nicklist
[11:34] <Linus-Trovalds> jrib, can u pls mention which all types are available? universe, multiverse etc?
[11:34] <jrib> Linus-Trovalds: main
[11:34] <Tech_> makkbe, I know there's a nicklist plugin, but it doesn't make it clickable
[11:34] <Linus-Trovalds> ok
[11:34] <makkbe> maybe not... been a while since i tried it
[11:34] <inditech> good morning
[11:34] <josh_> makkbe:  so there isn't a spoon?
[11:34] <icqnumber> what is ubuntu's nick and password for the live cd?
[11:34] <JPSmon> anyone know how to set up a  common folder between ethernet?
[11:34] <makkbe> josh_: exactly
[11:34] <sCOTTo> jrib: JPSmon: ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d3ebb5fd8
[11:34] <JPSmon> between hardy and gutsy?
[11:35] <nikitis> JPSmon: Hey that link doesn't help me.  My linux type is 83
[11:35] <Tech_> makkbe, aye, it runs in a terminal window so it doesn't have any right-click functionality, that's why I asked for advice :D
[11:35] <sCOTTo> ikonia: how do i get a recovery shell ?
[11:35] <makkbe> yeah... :)
[11:35] <jrib> sCOTTo: your hostname has a space in it?
[11:35] <artagnon> 8.04 is awesome... did 8 installations today. Two Wubi installations *hung* once each
[11:35] <makkbe> what about bitch-x?
[11:35] <nikitis> Need an expert on grub.
[11:35] <artagnon> how do I diagnose the problem?
[11:35] <timo> JPSmon: its on the sessions gdm screen you can choose KDE from there (if you have it installed).
[11:35] <inditech> each time I start my new Hardy now, I have to run a modprobe wlan0 to get it to start the wifi - it works fine, but anyone know how I can get this command to run as root on startup?
[11:35] <Tech_> makkbe, I'll consider the different options, might as well do a google search right away
[11:35] <sCOTTo> jrib: no - and i DIDNT put it there either! but the prob is that I Cant get root :)
[11:36] <makkbe> inditech: put the module in /etc/modules
[11:36] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You can make a folder on your partition that you backup... call it home... you can mount this as the linux default home directory... home is like Windows 'Documents and Settings'
[11:36] <jrib> sCOTTo: are you sure?  That's how it is in the pastebin
[11:36] <inditech> makkbe:  simple - thanks, sorry for n00b question!
[11:36] <sCOTTo> jrib: ALOT HAS CHANGED SINCE MY UPDATE :(
[11:36] <nikitis> Need an expert on GRUB.  Broken system.  no sleep.  Question too complex.  need someone to work with.
[11:36] <inditech> other than that - loving it, working great :)
[11:36] <simion314> hi, i am trying to make firefox 3 to use les cpu by disabling some plugins that i do not use. i left the shockwaveflash enabled but the flash video are not working
[11:36] <makkbe> inditech: no worries
[11:36] <icqnumber> I AM TRYING UBUBUNTU AS A LIVE CD, NOW I NEED TO ENTER USERNAME AND PASSWORD TO LOG IN, any idea?
[11:36] <Myrtti> no
[11:37] <sCOTTo> icqnumber: CAPS
[11:37] <jrib> sCOTTo: okay, but are you sure there is no space in your /etc/hostname file?
[11:37] <makkbe> icqnumber: try ubuntu/ubuntu?
[11:37] <makkbe> user name is ubuntu afaik
[11:37] <sCOTTo> jrib: i KNOW THERE IS - but I cant change it :(
[11:37] <Myrtti> sCOTTo: you used them yourself
[11:37] <icqnumber> makkbe, wrong guess!
[11:37] <josh_> ifireball:  ok, so how much space can a linux partition require?  and is the package manager in my home directory, so that if my home directory is on the data partition it will be backed up?
[11:37] <makkbe> icqnumber: then i do not know
[11:37] <jrib> icqnumber: check that it burned correctly.  verify the integrity of the cd (one of the options at the beginning)
[11:37] <nikitis> Need an expert on GRUB. i've asked for help all night.  Broken system. no sleep. Question too complex. need someone to work with.
[11:37] <sCOTTo> Myrtti: to illustrate :)
[11:37] <timo> Gust upgraded to hardy over night now my session wont load. I can log on but i just see a brown background with mouse.
[11:38] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  what else goes in my home directory other than documents?\
[11:38] <icqnumber> jrib, burned correctly, md5sum is okey!
[11:38] <nonewmsgs> how do mount an image?  mount command said it is a nonblock device.
[11:38] <GNUtoo> hello is a a geforce 8600M GT supported by ubuntu or do i need envy(i want the proprietary driver)
[11:38] <Zarin> Hardy installer problem: I'm trying to install Hardy using the Live CD installer however when I get to the partition step the list contains nothing and all the buttons are disabled. Anyone know what it's trying to do?
[11:38] <GNUtoo> hardy of course...
[11:38]  * sCOTTo has a login screen that is coming up too big to see the fields... guessing to typpe username and pass worked...
[11:38] <jrib> sCOTTo: ok, there's no need for caps :)  just reboot, choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu and then use nano to edit /etc/hostname to remove the space and also edit /etc/hosts and add "faithtop" to the line with localhost
[11:39] <nikitis> Need an expert on GRUB. i've asked for help all night.  Broken system. no sleep. Question too complex. need someone to work with.
[11:39] <sCOTTo> jrib: thanks
[11:39] <arvind_khadri> timo, have you root access
[11:39] <nonewmsgs> nikitis: we hide the grub experts in #grub
[11:39] <sCOTTo> see yah soon :)
[11:39] <ikonia> nikitis: join #grub then if you need an expert
[11:39] <panda> nikitis : whats teh problem?
[11:39] <icqnumber> jrib, i got it from fu-berlin mirror? does it makes a difference?
[11:39] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Things like settings, for programs and such
[11:39] <timo> arvind_khadri: yes
[11:39] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Or do you mean the specific directories
[11:39] <ifireball> josh_: for a home machine I think a 5GB partition for the OS/Applications would suffice and you should place /home on your data partition and make it as big as possible (so you can have a lot of room for your data)
[11:39] <timo> arvind_khadri: i log on as normal use thou
[11:40] <timo> user*
[11:40] <amerio> what does it mean when the there is "UNCALIMED" next to network when u tyoe lshw -c network?
[11:40] <arvind_khadri> timo, ok then open the terminal and type sudo users-admin
[11:40] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: again, its gksudo for X11 apps
[11:40] <icqnumber> jrib, u do not have a clue, right?
[11:40] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: not "sudo"
[11:40] <ifireball> josh_: since your home directory also contains all your personal settings, backing it enough is enough to get back a fully working system after a reinstall and a restore
[11:40] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  so all my program data(preferences, documents(if i'm using a word eqivalent), etc) will automagically go into my home directory?
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok sorry a BIG MISTAKE,what do you want me to do
[11:41] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: think about what your saying to people
[11:41] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: as I keep asking you
[11:41] <jrib> icqnumber: nope, it's not suppose to do that.  Make sure you verified it using the option you are given when you boot the cd
[11:41] <ifireball> josh_: answering your question to Boredom_inc, yes.
[11:41] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Yeah and you would put downloads and music etc. in there also
[11:41] <timo> arvind_khadri http://pastebin.com/m3e44abec
[11:41] <arvind_khadri> timo, am sorry please type gksudo users-admin
[11:42] <icqnumber> ikonia, i am asked for username and password, during triying it as live cd?, any idea?, md5sum and cd are burned ok
[11:42] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ok
[11:42] <timo> http://pastebin.com/m5b4cdd0f
[11:43] <ikonia> icqnumber: when are you asked for a username and password
[11:43] <brissy_tony> m
[11:43] <josh_> ifireball and Boredom_inc:  ok thanks.  so, if i have a shitload of windows programs that's about 50GB, how much space do i need for the same shitload of linux programs(assuming all the programs have a linux and windows version)?
[11:43] <icqnumber> ikonia, directly after kernel is loaded
[11:43] <Glas`Awyr> Hey #Ubuntu. I'm installing right now and so am lurking.
[11:43] <ikonia> josh_: watch your langauge
[11:44] <Diaco> hi.
[11:44] <Diaco> has any body help me find a driver for dial-up modem on vaio fe laptops? i've tested scan modem tool and many other things without any result
[11:44] <ikonia> icqnumber: what do you mean ? do you get the gnome desktop
[11:44] <josh_> ikonia; huh?
[11:44] <ikonia> josh_: bad language is not called for
[11:44] <Ubuntu2008> stop swearing
[11:44] <josh_> sorry.
[11:44] <ifireball> josh_: I can't possibly think what 50GB of programs will be good for, windows programs are a mess
[11:44] <joanjoseph> good day every1
[11:45] <nikitis> i'm about to start swearing.  i've been up for 24 hours straight trying to figure out this grub issue
[11:45] <Boredom_inc> josh_: If your used to backing up a partition all the time I recommend making a partition that is just your home directory... you then mount this folder in ubuntu and it is accessed a bit like a folder.... its at the location /home .... If you create a partition I can tell you how to make the partition mount at /home every time ubuntu boots up
[11:45] <timo> I have a back up should i restore. Seems the upgrade was not successful.
[11:45] <icqnumber> ikonia, after i select 'try ubuntu without any change to your computer', the first screen appear, is a log in screen!
[11:45] <josh_> ifireball:  i don;t actually have that much.  i just have no idea how much space linux programs take compared to windows.
[11:45] <ikonia> icqnumber: and thats the gnome login screen ?
[11:45] <mrjack> josh_: this depends absolutly on the program
[11:46] <ifireball> josh_: like I said, 5GB should be enough, as long as you make a separate /home partition
[11:46] <icqnumber> ikonia, i do not know how does it look like, i have no ubuntu installed
[11:46] <dexter> arf
[11:46] <ikonia> icqnumber: can you take a screen shot ?
[11:46] <icqnumber> ikonia, pink colours
[11:46] <julz> with two crap compies, can i increase performance with a two node cluster? or is it not really practical?
[11:47] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  i kind of know how the directory structure; my school uses solaris.  i just have no experience as an admin
[11:47] <dexter> not a good idea the Firefox 3 in hardy
[11:47] <panda> josh_: generally much less space ...
[11:47] <nikitis> Getting GRUB error 17, Grub bootloader is on /dev/sda as well as my windows partition.  /dev/sdb is where menu.lst is located and my /boot and linux partitions.  Any ideas why?
[11:47] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You will probably find that you don't need as many programs on linux as windows. Linux programmers are quite adept at sharing libraries (in windows these are dll folders) so one program uses the features of many libraries. Pidgin is a good example (mind you it only uses a few libraries) but it works as a AIM, IRC, MSN, Yahoo (and more) client
[11:47] <josh_> panda:  thanks; that's what i was looking for.
[11:47] <vistakiller> slaytanic you run compiz?
[11:47] <eckesicle> josh_, I have a fresh install of ubuntu. with Office suite, and programming environment, browser email, the usual. That uses up approximately 4GB
[11:47] <Boredom_inc> dll files*
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, menu.lst is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:48] <josh_> ecksicle:  would a power user need more?
[11:48] <SoulChild> Hey all, somehow the third mouse button (pressing first and second mb) does not work on my synaptics touchpad anymore,... any ideas ???
[11:48] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: yes it's on the 2nd drive sdb
[11:48] <eckesicle> josh_, I am a power user.
[11:48] <nikitis> but my grub boot loader is on sda which I think is supposed to point to sdb
[11:48] <Ubuntu2008> anyone know how to recover from this error while upgrading to Hardy? http://pastebin.com/m77e504b2
[11:48] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, did you try re-installing the grub
[11:48] <ifireball> josh_: my current root partition (where the OS and all the programs are) currently has 2.2GB used and 3GB free after years of using the system, so 5GB should be enough
[11:49] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: i typed grub-install /dev/sda  It said it reinstalled but i still get the same error
[11:49] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: if I'm not mistaken, I saw something like that when I upgraded
[11:49] <wild_oscar> but it didn't stop the upgrade process
[11:49] <ifireball> josh_: and I am a power user, I've stuff such as Apache and MySql installed the most users wouldn't need
[11:49] <Stred> Hello... Ubuntu newbie Q1: I'm running a Live CD on an XP system. Ubuntu is not recognizing my dual monitors (Nvidia FX5200), only one. Could there be an easy fix or would I have to install Ubuntu  first before trying to install new video drivers?   Thanks!
[11:49] <josh_> eckesicle:  sorry.  ok, so i really only need about 5GB of space.
[11:49] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: my computer has been hanging on that message for half an hour
[11:50] <immesys> stred: yeah, you would probably have to install
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, you need to follow some steps before that
[11:50] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: such as?
[11:50] <eckesicle> josh_, I am a power user. Games will naturally take up more space
[11:50] <samalex> Dues Ubuntu 8.04 server have some firewall enabled that doesn't allow IP's beyond the local subnet connect?  I've estup Ubuntu 8.04 server with apache and SSH, and even though I can hit them from other computers on the local network, I'm unable to hit it from the Internet, even though that system is setup as DMZ in router and GRC.com's Shields Up does show ports 80 and 22 open.
[11:50] <Stred> thank you immesys
[11:50] <samalex> just curious ...
[11:50] <josh_> ifireball:  i feel like i should send microsfot my bill for the giant harddrvie i needed to buy
[11:50] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: if u know where the upgrade log is, I can check if the message was the same
[11:50] <eckesicle> josh_, sorry for repeat.
[11:50] <SoulChild> Third mouse button on tocupad, pressing first and second does not work anymore,... any ideas ???
[11:50] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, loacating where it is...check out this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:50] <immesys> stred: unless you remaster a live cd. This is not an easy task though
[11:51] <eckesicle> then on the other hand i keep 500GB of media. So linux will not decompress that for you :)
[11:51] <josh_> ecksicle:  ok, is there a way to keeo linux separate from ubuntu so i can try installing other linux flavors?
[11:51] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: I cannot do that.  When i type grub in the commandline after "SU" it comes back with a terminal error
[11:51] <Stred> immesys not likely to remaster a CD, thanks :)
[11:51] <eckesicle> so you might want to keep your harddrive
[11:51] <eckesicle> josh_ what do you mean?
[11:51] <timo> can i have some guidance please http://pastebin.com/m3d047985
[11:51] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, its sudo
[11:51] <ifireball> josh_: maybe... but they're not the only one to blame, I find the windows programmers tend to be inefficient space-wise for various reasons (like not sharing components for example)
[11:52] <eckesicle> You can have different flavours on different partitions if you like, or virtualise.
[11:52] <josh_> ifireball:  </>joke</>
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: found the log. it's the same message
[11:52] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: that's assuming I can get into a linux session correct?
[11:52] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: d/w I fixed it. Seems like it's a known bug with gnome
[11:52] <banshe> how do i remove a file extension,say .url from all files in a directory?
[11:52] <ifireball> josh_: for your last question, that's just asking for trouble, and make little sense
[11:52] <immesys> timo: replacing with package maintainers version is usually okay
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: but my upgrade continued
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, be on a live ubuntu cd and do this
[11:52] <icqnumber> ikonia, not way to make a screen shot, tty1 says: "user not known to the underlying authentication module"!
[11:52] <wild_oscar> Ubuntu2008: it continued as well?
[11:52] <timo> thanks
[11:52] <simion314> anyone use no-script with firefox? i have a problem
[11:52] <jrib> banshe: one way is to use the 'rename' command (see its man page for examples)
[11:52] <Jookia> Hi guys
[11:52] <Ubuntu2008> wild_oscar: after quite a while it did
[11:52] <josh_> ifireball:  so what should i do if i want to have two separate linux distros?
[11:52] <arvind_khadri> banshe, use rename
[11:53] <banshe> ok
[11:53] <amerio> why I try to use sudo to install a package I get that "timestamp too far in the future:..."
[11:53] <Boredom_inc> Ubuntu comes with (by default) all most everything you need... CD/DVD burning software, bittorrent client, music player, office software, web browser, messenger client, PDF viewer, image manipulation software... The only software people really install (other than changing the default programs) is Programming environments and games... Games take up a huge amount of space obviously so you need to leave room on the ubuntu (not home) partition for games and c
[11:53] <ikonia> icqnumber: I can't explain that
[11:53] <Glas`Awyr> Question #1: Once my install finishes on my laptop and I have rebooted, I want to install an IRC client before I do anything else. I've only ever used mIRC on Windows and would like something similar. Any suggestions?
[11:53] <ifireball> josh_: just install them on separate partitions, you can sometimes share the home partition, but it may not work all that well
[11:53] <Jookia> Glas
[11:53] <arvind_khadri> Glas`Awyr, xchat
[11:53] <josh_> Boredom_inc: what games?
[11:53] <Jookia> I'm using IRC on pidgin
[11:53] <wild_oscar> Glas`Awyr: pidgin
[11:53] <oaihs> howdy
[11:54] <Jookia> HOWDY
[11:54] <josh_> ifireball:  ok, thanks.
[11:54] <[T]-Rex> check out irssi
[11:54] <wild_oscar> Glas`Awyr: pidgin works with irc, msn, gtalk, yahoo, etc
[11:54] <icqnumber> this massage appears, 1o times, after "loading, please wait", can not even use tty1
[11:54] <Boredom_inc> josh_: What do you mean by 'what games?'
[11:54] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, ??
[11:54] <Glas`Awyr> I tried pidgin while using running from the Live CD and hated it. I'll take a look AT xChat.
[11:54] <wild_oscar> Glas`Awyr: although, if u're used to msn, I strongly suggest amsn for that
[11:54] <josh_> boredom_inc:  what games can you(do you) play on linux?  or are you just using Wine?  and how much space do you need?
[11:55] <crashanddie> josh_, same space as windows game
[11:55] <Jookia> Hey guy, I'm in a position so tight I might aswell be on 4chan
[11:55] <samalex> n/m, stupid Linksys router had some firewall enabled by default.
[11:56] <_Rambaldi_> josh_, nexuiz, openarena, are the ones i play (both like Unreal)
[11:56] <lclimber> hello everyone, i am havin a proble with my just upgraded ubuntu system, it doesn't seem to recognize my headphones
[11:56] <Jookia> lclimber
[11:56] <mOrO^> Help! Im looking at a screen that is about 20 times bigger than it is supposed to be.
[11:56]  * arvind_khadri nexuiz is really awesome
[11:56] <josh_> _rambaldi:  how much space do they take up?
[11:56] <banshe> can someone tell me how to use rename? I am unable to understand the manpage
[11:56] <icqnumber> ikonia, this massage appears 1o times, after "loading, please wait", can not even use tty1, i have another distro installed on this box, does it makes a sence, actually not, well then the official mirror i got it from?
[11:56] <crashanddie> josh_, other than that, most games that are OpenGL based are Linux compatible (UT comes to mind, Quake, etc) Wine allows you to run Windows based games, by wrapping the API it needs. It's been a long time ever since I used wine, but support wasn't that bad
[11:56] <unocrash> hey
[11:56] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I don't play games really but there are a surprisingly large amount of linux games. Not all that many AAA titles but there are a lot of native games that are very good. Otherwise you can just use Wine and run the games straight off your windows partition
[11:56] <unocrash> im just upgrading
[11:56] <Jookia> I have a problem; I'm running off my live CD, transfering my backups to a 1GB flash drive and I need to burn a CD. What should I do?
[11:57] <_Rambaldi_> i never really checked josh_ the package was about 240mb
[11:57] <crashanddie> Jookia, once you're booted, you should be able to eject the CD
[11:57] <josh_> boredom_inc:  so would i need more than 5GB if i wanted to install a bunch of games?
[11:57] <Xiliath> anyone tried hildon on hardy?
[11:57] <[^martin]> Hi all, I've just got my Ubuntu install up and running and have connected succesfully to my wireless network. I am having trouble connecting to specific endpoints that other machines on the network are not. For example, www.mozilla.org works. www.google.com does not. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[11:57] <Jookia> Martin
[11:57] <Jookia> Goto about:config
[11:57] <Jookia> And find IPv6
[11:57] <Jookia> In the search bar
[11:58] <immesys> martin: try turning off ipv6
[11:58] <Jookia> And set that to true
[11:58] <[^martin]> ah
[11:58] <FloodBot2> Jookia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <crashanddie> josh_, yeah, definitely
[11:58] <[^martin]> ok, 2 secs
[11:58] <dreamcoder> any reccomend what to install ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:58] <Jookia> Ubuntu is best
[11:58] <Jookia> But if you come from windows
[11:58] <tiramisu> dreamcoder: you can install kde on ubuntu
[11:58] <Jookia> Get Kubuntu
[11:58] <mosno> Gnome Menu icons are blank for newly installed GTK+ applications (installed via aptitude on 8.04) -- anyone know what the issue is here?
[11:58] <crashanddie> dreamcoder, depends on what you like most, if you prefer KDE or Gnome
[11:58] <Jookia> Or if you come from Mac
[11:58] <josh_> crashanddie:  how much would you recommend?
[11:58] <banshe> it is dependent on ur taste
[11:58] <Jookia> Use Ubuntu
[11:58] <_Rambaldi_> what happened to ubuntu-bots
[11:58] <immesys> dreamcoder: kubuntu looks nicer but I'm having grief installing it, so use ubuntu rather
[11:58] <amerio> guys the wireless driver exists but wireless doesnt work please help
[11:59] <Jookia> Amerio
[11:59] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I recommend allocating about 4 GB (ubuntu) + 5 GB (or less for games)... Because by the sounds of it you intend to play windows games and I assume they are already installed on your windows partition, you don't need to reinstall them on linux
[11:59] <Jookia> My friend had this problem
[11:59] <tiramisu> ubuntu should be used even if you want kde since kubuntu is dependency hell
[11:59] <Jookia> Disable IPv6
[11:59] <banshe> can someone tell me how to use rename? I am unable to understand the manpage
[11:59] <lclimber> hello everyone, i am havin a proble with my just upgraded ubuntu system, it doesn't seem to recognize my headphones
[11:59] <crashanddie> josh_, I don't know, depends on the games you want to play... Take about 10Gig for WoW, 12Gig for a normal CS/HL2/CS:S install
[11:59] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Mind you not all of them will run
[11:59] <amerio> Jookia how to disable IPV6?
[11:59] <dreamcoder> ok will try ubuntu thanks
[11:59] <osfameron> tiramisu: I thought kubuntu was just ubuntu+kde_desktop ?
[11:59] <Jookia> I'm not sure how globaly.
[11:59] <Jookia> But there's a firefox config
[12:00] <Xiliath> osfameron, it basicly is, but some applications are different
[12:00] <banshe> lclimber, thats y u should not use upgrade.
[12:00] <crashanddie> tiramisu, please don't spawn ideas like that, thank you
[12:00] <josh_> boredom_inc:  they aren't installed yet;  is there a way to install the games on a separate hard drive from ubuntu?
[12:00] <Jookia> Yes
[12:00] <crashanddie> josh_, of course, mount that drive to your filesystem, and install them there
[12:00] <tehgeek> Oh em gee.  The package servers seem uber-bogged down.  T_T
[12:00] <Ubuntu2008> amerio, do you know the make of your wi-fi card?
[12:00] <ifireball> crashanddie: shouldn't those games be installed to some other partition, say /usr/local or /opt ?
[12:00] <Jookia> Tehgeek: That's cause of 8.04 upgrades.
[12:00] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: What type of headphones? USB or standard headphone jack?
[12:00] <crashanddie> josh_, you might need to setup a new wine_C_drive, and set it to that given mount point
[12:01] <tehgeek> Jookia, Yeah, I figured.  Still is a bummer.  =X
[12:01] <nikitis> arvind_khadri: sorry, i'm trying it now
[12:01] <obnibolongo> amerio, Jookia, you can always blacklist kernel module ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:01] <ele_Acaro> SALVE A TUTTI ------------------------------
[12:01] <[^martin]> Jookia: disabled that IPV6 in Firefox, still no luck. It gets to "Waiting for host..." and just hangs there. Definitely a firefox issue though - just tried telnetting to the host
[12:01] <arvind_khadri> nikitis, thats ok
[12:01] <lclimber> Boredom_inc standard
[12:01] <josh_> crashanddie: no idea what that meant, but that's ok, i just wanted to know if it was possible.
[12:01] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 Atheros AR242x
[12:01] <ele_Acaro> HI TO ALL -----------------------
[12:01] <NekoKun> Is there any ubuntu distro that is minimalist? Just kernel + basic commands, not including any GUI, just basic drivers? Like an 'apt-get' version... that anything extra than the most needed stuff must be downloaded...
[12:01] <Jookia> Where would I go about finding my firefox bookmarks file?
[12:01] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: So it's not using the correct sound card then
[12:01] <obnibolongo> lol hi ele_Acaro
[12:01] <crashanddie> josh_, if you're going to install wine based games, Wine is going to create a virtual Windows drive (filesystem), just save that virtual drive on the other hard disk, so you can use that space
[12:02] <obnibolongo> NekoKun, Gentoo Linux? :P
[12:02] <makkbe> NekoKun: the server version is pretty basic
[12:02] <makkbe> if you want ubuntu
[12:02] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 and its enabled and in Use
[12:02] <makkbe> otoh, debian netinstall is even more basic
[12:02] <arvind_khadri> NekoKun, that would be gobuntu
[12:02] <NekoKun> makkbe: How many gbs it needs to install?
[12:02] <crashanddie> NekoKun, you could also try Arch Linux
[12:02] <jPratt> I dont see any differences really in 8.04
[12:02] <makkbe> NekoKun: under 600 mb
[12:02] <ele_Acaro> I FORGOTTEN THAT HERE IT'S USED ONLY ENGLISH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:02] <josh_> crashanddie: ok, so does a swap file of 5GB(i have 4 gb ram) and a Ubuntu partition of 5GB sound reasonable?
[12:03] <NekoKun> Well, so far Debian EeeOS is the best option... mmm < 600mb
[12:03] <crashanddie> but yeah, I'd recommend the netinstall of Debian as makkbe said
[12:03] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: stop with the caps
[12:03] <ifireball> josh_: why don't you go ahead and install? I think you'd have a fairly good grasp of the answers to all your questions within a month... and if you get it wrong the 1st time, just go ahead and reinstall, its fairly painless
[12:03] <obnibolongo> ele_Acaro, don't use caps, it's considered yelling
[12:03] <neeto> In 7.10, when I clicked on things in the system tray, it would switch to whatever workspace the corresponding window was on... it doesn't seem to do that anymore. How do I make it so that it does?
[12:03] <ele_Acaro> excuse me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:03] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Type "cat /proc/asound/modules" in terminal and check to see your soundcard (that the headphones are plugged in) is listed
[12:03] <NekoKun> What's the main difference between debian and ubuntu?
[12:03] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: and the exclamation marks as well, please
[12:03] <crashanddie> josh_, I'd say 5Gb is a bit minimalistic, to be honest, I'd shrink the swap to 2 gig, and give the 3 extra gig to your root
[12:03] <ifireball> josh_: at 4GB ram your should have about 4GB swap
[12:03] <dagon_> ele_Acaro; abuse of ! is also considered rude
[12:03] <makkbe> NekoKun: ubuntu is a customized debian
[12:04] <neeto> NekoKun: honestly? Sexiness.
[12:04] <mademelaugh> really
[12:04] <makkbe> one can say
[12:04] <mademelaugh> !swap
[12:04] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[12:04] <lclimber> Boredom_inc it says 0 snd_hda_intel
[12:04] <lclimber> Boredom_inc that's it
[12:04] <makkbe> NekoKun: debian generally use older packages in their stable versions
[12:04] <josh_> ifireball: about?
[12:04] <crashanddie> mademelaugh, I wouldn't use 4gig swap on any desktop computer that has 4Gig of ram... He'll never use it :/
[12:04] <NekoKun> makkbe: So, in a way I could say that doing the correct patches/kernel I could get a debian install and turn it into a ubuntu?
[12:04] <ele_Acaro> am i bad for you ?
[12:05] <amerio> Ubuntu2008 ?
[12:05] <neeto> In 7.10, when I clicked on things in the system tray, it would switch to whatever workspace the corresponding window was on... it doesn't seem to do that anymore. How do I make it so that it does?
[12:05] <NekoKun> Ok... I hate old things :p
[12:05] <banshe> how do i remove a file extension,say .url from all files in a directory?
[12:05] <crashanddie> NekoKun, you can always try Debian sid
[12:05] <makkbe> NekoKun: if you use one of the newer debian branches, yes
[12:05] <mademelaugh> crashanddie, yep, wise choice
[12:05] <makkbe> sid or lenny
[12:05] <ifireball> josh_: partition sizes, what installs where, games, etc.
[12:05] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: go to System -> Preferences -> Sound and press test for something other than capture... you should hear a beeping noise (you may have already tried this)
[12:05] <makkbe> lenny is probably recommended
[12:05] <makkbe> sid is really unstable from time to time
[12:05] <mademelaugh> what
[12:05] <mademelaugh> isn't here ubuntu
[12:06] <Jookia> How would I go about accessing my /home/jookia/.Trash folder ON ANOTHER HARDDRIVE
[12:06] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Let me know if you heard anything
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, where did you mount it ?
[12:06] <josh_> ifireball:  i heard a swap file 1.15 times the size of your RAM was a good amount; is that too much?  if it's just virtual memory, does it ever need to be a bigger size than my RAM?
[12:06] <Jookia> disk-1
[12:06] <ele_Acaro> i would like learn more from you but i like much not be a problem for you !
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, that's not a valid mount point
[12:06] <amerio> obnibolongo so disabling VP6 would make my wireless work?
[12:06] <crashanddie> Jookia, a mount point is something like /media/disk1, or /mnt/mydisk
[12:06] <josh_> ifireball:  this is installing on my laptop, btw
[12:06] <ifireball> NekoKun: you can say that about any Linux distro, doesn't make sense time-wise to do stuff that way though
[12:06] <NekoKun> I'm asking that cause I have an EeePC, and want something like eeeXUbuntu... but IMHO it has too much garbage installed....
[12:06] <makkbe> ele_Acaro: just ask whatever you want to know then
[12:06] <Kirby> is ubuntu supposed to be slower than windowsxp ?
[12:07] <mrjack> if you boot ubuntu with low graphics, eg xdriver not installed correctly, ubuntu starts with 800x600 - in that resolution, the update-manager and many other programs are using more than 600px in height, but they cant be resized making it impossible for the user to klick the ok or next button...
[12:07] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, i would like you to read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#head-ca3b215130839e9b2e1c85af31620153daba975c
[12:07] <Jookia> /media/disk-1
[12:07] <makkbe> NekoKun: do you want a gui?
[12:07] <neeto> Kirby: are you a troll or are you honest?
[12:07] <mademelaugh> Kirby, not really, you cannot compare mem management with xp
[12:07] <NekoKun> makkbe: I plan to instal xfce later, but I don't want kde/gnome uneeded files around
[12:07] <makkbe> ok
[12:07] <Boredom_inc> josh_: If you have lots of RAM your swap file will rarely be used but as a general rule a swap file roughly the size of your ram is good
[12:07] <lclimber> Boredom_inc yes, i have sound, the proble is that it dosen't redirect the sound to my headphones when i plug them
[12:07] <obnibolongo> amerio, I don't know, I though you'd asked how to disable IPv6, I told you how, I didn't know what was leading to it, sorry
[12:07] <Kirby> well my ubuntu is certainly slower than windowsxp
[12:07] <mademelaugh> Kirby, when refer to linux, it cannot be very fast, but it is stable, it just works
[12:07] <Paavi2_0> Kirby: yes and no. some things are much faster and some things you'd think to be slower
[12:07] <crashanddie> josh_, 4Gigs of RAM is quite an enormous amount, I doubt you'll ever need all of it. I seriously doubt you'll ever need more than 4Gig, your swap would probably never be used
[12:07] <makkbe> then i suggest a debian lenny or arch
[12:08] <neeto> NekoKun: I am coming into the middle of this conversation, but if you don't want gnome/kde, why not just use xubuntu?
[12:08] <finek> hi
[12:08] <josh_> Boredom_inc:  thanks
[12:08] <crashanddie> josh_, you need swap "to be safe", but 2gigs of swap is by far enough with the enormous quantity of RAM you have access to
 my wireless driver is enabled and in use but no wireless , do u have ny idea about that?
[12:08] <ifireball> josh_: the rule of thumb is that up to 2GB swap = ram*2; beyond 2GB its swap=ram; and beyond 4GB it doesn't mater... too much swap can cause trashing, though I doubt the swap will even get used on a 4GB desktop machine
[12:08] <arvind_khadri> Boredom_inc, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#head-ca3b215130839e9b2e1c85af31620153daba975c
[12:08] <dagon_> neeto; or fluxbuntu ;)
[12:08] <tyranos> hi everyone , what do i need to install to get  my fn keys to work on my laptop
[12:08] <NekoKun> neeto: I've installed it and found good sized KDE and gnome folders on it
[12:08] <NekoKun> also, it uses a LOT of space
[12:08] <case_> Kirby, ubuntu can be seen as slower than winxp, as winxp si slower than dos... you have to compare the features too...
[12:08] <josh_> crashanddie:  what about when i hibernate/sleep?  (i'm on a laptop that i use for school)
[12:08] <tehgeek> tyranos, You need to hit the fn-lock key maybe?
[12:08] <tehgeek> :P
[12:09] <mademelaugh> coz you know, harddisk 's speed cannot compare with memrory
[12:09]  * arvind_khadri screams its mentioned it the official forums too that have twice the size of your ram as swap
[12:09] <ruewan> hi
[12:09] <neeto> NekoKun: well to run most apps you need some gtk/kde stuff, like any python programs or amarok, which is kde...
[12:09] <finek> what can i do when only one of speakers works and another one isnt?
[12:09] <Kirby> I am talking about GUI, gui in ubuntu is slower than in windows xp- browsing files, opening jpgs, text...
[12:09] <crashanddie> josh_, swap isn't used at that point
[12:09] <ruewan> i just instaled hardy
[12:09] <neeto> dagon_: flux is icky
[12:09] <Jookia>  /media/disk-1/home/jookia/.Trash = permission denied.
[12:09] <ruewan> my hard drive has been going nonstop since i installed it
[12:09] <obnibolongo> amerio, well, which wireless card do you have?
[12:09] <Kirby> case_: what features???
[12:09] <josh_> ifireball: thanks.
[12:09] <dagon_> neeto; can't be worse than xfce
[12:09] <finek> Jookia, sudo
[12:09] <crashanddie> Jookia, because you mounted it and don't have write perms on the mount point
[12:09] <Jookia> how do I sudo thefile browser?
 Atheros AR242x
[12:09] <neeto> dagon_: that's where you're wrong good sir.
[12:09] <NekoKun> dagon_: Why 'worse than xfce'?
[12:10] <dagon_> Jookia; sudo nautilus
[12:10] <obnibolongo> amerio, ouch...
[12:10] <Boredom_inc> lclimber: Are your speakesr built-in or are they plugged into a different soundcard?
[12:10] <josh_> ifireball:  do you think a 2GB swap would be fine as well?
[12:10] <dagon_> NekoKun; never liked xfce
[12:10] <case_> Kirby, about gui features, 3d desktop, font antialiasing, file preview, vector icons... etc...
[12:10] <dagon_> neeto; okey :p
[12:10] <crashanddie> Jookia, mount /media/disk-1 -o remount,rw,umask=0 or something like that, check the man page
[12:10] <Kirby> can I make ubuntu faster, disabling its so called features?
[12:10] <tyranos> thegeek , thx i ll try it
 not supported?
[12:10] <finek> what can i do when only one of speakers works and another one isnt?
[12:10] <Jookia> Kirby is a troll. I'm sure.
[12:10] <neeto> http://noisefrombelow.com/images/sshots/clean.jpg
[12:10] <james__> Anyone else having audio problems? Mine sounds VERY grainy. This because of Pulse Audio?
[12:10] <lclimber> Boredom_inc they are built in, its a laptop
[12:10] <NekoKun> dagon_: I never liked gnome... can't explain why...
[12:10] <obnibolongo> amerio, don't know, I had problems with an atheros a while ago, checking which one was
[12:10] <tyranos> tehgeek, but the volume up key works
[12:10] <ifireball> josh_: depends on what you're gonna be running, but generally with 4GB ram, yeah.
[12:10] <flithm> hey everyone, I just installed 8.04 here, and I don't get any 3d acceleration (nvidia) like I did with gutsy... anyone know what's going on?  The hardware drivers utility says it's detected "nvidia_new" but it's not in use
[12:10] <neeto> xfce is not ugly in the least
[12:10] <Boredom_inc> josh_: 2GB might even be a bit excessive but there is no harm in having one too big as long as you can spare the harddisk space
[12:11] <case_> Kirby, you sould try Xubuntu if you have an old hardware. less features, less needs.
[12:11] <Glas`Awyr> Trolls are usually looking for cybersex... ahem...
[12:11] <josh_> boredom_inc:i'd rather be safe than sorry.
[12:11] <Glas`Awyr> xChat looks like what I'm looking for. Thanks #Ubuntu.
 used to work on gutsy ! but I made a fresh install for hardy and stopped working =)
[12:11] <dagon_> NekoKun; okey.. well xfce to me.. is too lightweight
[12:11] <Kirby> though when scrolling pdf it;s superfast in ubuntu, I couldn't find such fast pdf viewer in windows
[12:11] <case_> Kirby, but Xubuntu comes with XFCE as Desktop manager, not Gnome...
[12:11] <josh_> ifireball:  what would/might require a bigger swap?
[12:11] <ruewan> how do i tell what process is reading my hard drive
[12:11] <mademelaugh> dagon_, so how many ram
[12:11] <finek> how to reinstall audio drivers?
[12:12] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: actually there is harm in that, but not in a desktop scenario I guess
[12:12] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd.
[12:12] <dagon_> mademelaugh; one
[12:12] <inspired> I just installed hardy. with desktop effects enabled the window titlebar is missing when a window loses focus. using an nvidia graphics card. anyone else seeing this?
[12:12] <ele_Acaro> !addon
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <mademelaugh> dagon_, how many megabytes
[12:12] <ifireball> josh_: a heavily loaded server software like a database for example
[12:12] <obnibolongo> amerio, first of all, let me warn you, I told you that thing about IPv6 by mistake, I suppose I used the tab completion with the wrong nick ^^but anyway, I'll try to help you
[12:12] <james__> Is audio quality a known issue with Hardy?
[12:12] <dagon_> mademelaugh; count 'em yourselves
[12:12] <NekoKun> neeto: xUbuntu used a lot of space... and once I can't easilly uninstall packages (as it's easy in windows), I preffer to get a single minimal install and aptget it application by application
[12:12] <dagon_> -s
[12:12] <tyranos> tehgeek, i need brightness buttons to work
[12:12] <dagon_> gah
[12:13] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: No you're going to make him doubt me :P
[12:13] <dagon_> mademelaugh; yourself*
[12:13] <josh_> ifireball:  ok thamks, now i know i'll be fine with 2, since i don't do anything like that.
 no problem buddy , Im listening
[12:13] <Kirby> maybe the default graphics driver in ubuntu is not good for my videocard?
[12:13] <mademelaugh> dagon_, what? run free in terminal, mine is 256m
[12:13] <Boredom_inc> ﻿lclimber: Look around in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ... I'm not really sure what the problem is if it's not switching to the headphones... I assume it works in Windows or whatever your previous OS was?
[12:13] <obnibolongo> amerio, wait a minute or so
[12:13] <case_> Kirby, what videocard do you have?
 take your time
[12:13] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd. Any ideas? I'm afriad my computer might explode if it tries to read the system from CD while burning a CD
[12:13] <Tasmaniak> Hi, since installing Hardy my disk usage (as in activity) is always around 60% and it's starting to worry me...is there likely something wrong?
[12:13] <Kirby> case_: an old one NVIDIA GeForce MX-200
[12:14] <dagon_> mademelaugh; 14740
[12:14] <flithm> hey everyone, what's the ubuntu way of configuring xorg to use my nvidia driver?  Should I just edit the xorg.conf?
[12:14] <tehgeek> tyranos, Oh, those buttons.  :P
[12:14] <case_> Kirby, you probably have to install the nvidia propretary driver to get decent video acceleration...
[12:14] <latarsky> would torrent be faster or a downloader like prozilla or flashget ?
[12:14] <DracoZA> flithm, tried nvidia-settings in a terminal ?
[12:14] <lclimber> Boredom_inc yes, it works on windows, thanx anyways
[12:14] <Boredom_inc> jookia: Lol why are you on the live CD and download the 8.04 CD?
[12:14] <Jookia> I have one CD drive. I'm on Live CD right now. I need to burn the 8.04 cd.
[12:14] <mademelaugh> dagon_, 1.4g? ram? then gnome kde you can choose whatever you want
[12:14] <Jookia> boredom:
[12:14] <Kirby> case_: acceleration? do you mean d3d ogl stuff?
[12:15] <ifireball> btw, since games were mentioned, does anybody here knows of a nice fast FPS which isn't network-deathmatch-oriented?
[12:15] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, desktop search? Check for Indexing service...
[12:15] <Jookia> It's a long story, upgrade from alt-cd mounted broke 7.10 on HDD, recovering data onto flash drive using Live CD, now up to this problem.
[12:15] <josh_> ifireball:  so if i'm at the partition preparations screen of my ubuntu install, in addition to my swap what do i need to create (other than my Ubuntu partition) and what do i mount where?
[12:15] <flithm> DracoZA: it's not installed :)  so what's the deal, the last ubuntu version automatically detected my nvidia card and gave me compiz and stuff, but not 8.04?
[12:15] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: do they even exist :P
[12:15] <case_> Kirby, opengl only on linux, but yes, that's what i mean. but it also benefits to 2d rendering
[12:15] <DracoZA> flithm, I'm installing as we speak so I cant tell you yet :)
[12:15] <Glas`Awyr> Okay #Ubuntu, I am now running Linux on my laptop.
[12:15] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: they used to >_>
[12:16] <Tasmaniak> obnibolongo: I thought of that, but it says Tracker is idle.
[12:16] <dagon_> mademelaugh; say what? :P it's 14.7 meg
[12:16] <tyranos> so none knows how to get all the fn keys to work
[12:16] <ifireball> josh_: you need a /home partition
[12:16] <tyranos> maybe i need keytouchd
[12:16] <mademelaugh> dagon_, what? i cannot believe that? try run less /proc/meminfo now
[12:16] <josh_> ifireball:  i will put that on my ntfs data partition, so it get backed up.
[12:16] <bXi> does anyone know the difference between vanilla firefox and ubuntu firefox?
[12:16] <Pord> Can any1 help me with a problem im having with my xorg and graphics card.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4789067#post4789067
[12:16] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, I've never found a good util to see what's accessing a disk, I usually nailed them (disk (ab)users) at using top... If you find a better app tell me!
[12:16] <Boredom_inc> josh_: You said you would play windows games... make a separate partition and mount it as /windows (Here you can install games that are windows only) mind you save some space for linux games on the linux partition
[12:17] <Kirby> case_: I'll download it later at night. What else can I do to make Ubuntu faster (1. XFce 2. NV driver ...)
[12:17] <Glas`Awyr> I have encountered my first "problem": A Restricted Drivers warning has appeared. It is telling me that my wireless network card driver is proprietary. Is this a real problem?
[12:17] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Actually you can mount it as anything.. "/games" might be more appropriate
[12:17] <NekoKun> There's no Ubuntu version of netinst and business card installer?
[12:17] <gluer> Q: how do i change the default icons, such as folder icons?
[12:17] <dagon_> mademelaugh; what difference was it supposed to make? it's still 14.7 meg free, I'm running vmware at desktop 2, that explains it
[12:17] <josh_> boredom_inc:  games will be on the computer i'm building this summer.  my laptop can't play games well.
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, you had it working before how? ndiswrapper?
[12:18] <ifireball> josh_: not a very good idea I'm afraid, since NTFS isn't 100% compatible with Linux, you better make a separate ext3-formatted partition for /home and back it up with Linux tools
[12:18] <amerio> gluer: u need to install a new icons , then copy them to ".icons" folder in Home directory
[12:18] <mademelaugh> dagon_, hmm, that expains it
[12:18] <mediacenter> Ciao a tutti
 I had it working without ndiswrapper
[12:18] <case_> Kirby, try nvdriver first. and don't download it form the nvidia website. you should find dozen of tutorial on how to set it up on the ubuntu forum...
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, which driver?
[12:18] <kernando> Helllo is there a way to enable a wireless connection and a lan connection at the same time in ubuntu?
[12:18] <mediacenter> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi con una scheda Pinnacle?
[12:18] <dagon_> mademelaugh; sorry if I confused you :)
[12:18] <obnibolongo> amerio, out-of-the-box?
[12:19] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Ahh ok... So this computer you're using now already has windows. Yeah it's probably best to create a separate /home partition like ifireball said.
[12:19] <wild_oscar> gluer: System > Preferences > Theme > Customize > Icons.
[12:19] <Kirby> case_: not from website???
[12:19] <mademelaugh> dagon_, indeed
 the same one but I really have no idea how it worked before
[12:19] <josh_> ifireball:  i thought linux could read and write ntfs.  what problems does it have?  how big can home partitions get?
[12:19] <case_> Kirby, all these stuff are in the ubuntu repositories, so you don't need to trust a third party website
[12:19] <case_> Kirby, how many RAM do you have in this PC ?
[12:19] <ifireball> josh_: the security scheme for example is completely different
[12:20] <JPSmon> can someone help me with some module drivers?
[12:20] <josh_> boredom_inc:  my data partition has no os on it.  xp and vista have their own partitions, and my data has its own partition as well.
[12:20] <Boredom_inc> josh_: It can read and writes NTFS... I use it all the time because my brother keeps the music on the windows partition. I've never encountered troubles but technically linux isn't 100% NTFS compatible.
[12:20] <Kirby> case_: 768MB, so how do I install a better driver then?
[12:20] <JPSmon> like how to install and uninstall them?
[12:20] <sn0rlax> hi... I just installed server 8.04 i386. and mysqld_safe is using 100% cpu. funny thing is, there are no databases in mysql yet...
[12:20] <inspired> anyone gotten flash working on Hardy AMD64?
[12:20] <ifireball> josh_: Linux uses the UNIX 12bit permission scheme while NTFS uses complex ACLs
[12:20] <kernando> does anyone knonw how to? i want to connect to my other computer while still connected to the internet??
[12:20] <Boredom_inc> oh yeah and the security is different. Linux can delete whatever it feels like from NTFS
[12:20] <gluer> wild_oscar: i dont have themes in my menu, just appearance
[12:20] <obnibolongo> amerio, well... use forums or google for it, it's the best I can say you... Use http://www.savagehamsters.com/?p=55 for a quickstart
[12:20] <josh_> boredom_inc: would you recommend putting my home directory on a data only ntfs partition?
 how about madwifi do u think its gonna work?
[12:21] <josh_> ifireball:  would it be ok if i don't plan to encrypt anything?
[12:21] <ifireball> josh_: no
[12:21] <MarV-> hi
[12:21] <Boredom_inc> josh_: Probably not. I'd recommend it's own ext3 partition.
[12:21] <Tasmaniak> obnibolongo: I had a look with top as suggested, and I think it may have been the mythtv-backend, I killed the process and it seemed to quieten down a bit. Thanks.
[12:21] <Glas`Awyr> Question #3: I understand there is an incredibly easy way to install software (sudo something...) where can I find out more about that?
[12:21] <sn0rlax> anyone else having problems w/ mysqld_safe maxing out cpu? ( no databases loaded even )
[12:21] <josh_> ifireball: how big can a home directory get?
[12:21] <ifireball> josh_: the different permission scheme may cause all kinds of unexpected problems for various programs
[12:21] <MarV-> can someone name me the tool witch installs newest nvidia driver automaticly?
[12:22] <tyranos> envy
[12:22] <Villarroel> Hi.
[12:22] <MarV-> ahh right thanks
[12:22] <Boredom_inc> ﻿josh_: In fact if you want you could mount the ext3 home directory in windows. I do this also... mind you windows has even less support for ext3 than linux has for NTFS. I did it mostly cause it looks cool :P
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio, can't tell you without having messed with that Atheros in particular more... Which I haven't :) (a firend of mine had that wireless card and I gave up trying to make it work on 7.10 :P)
[12:22] <tyranos> MarV-, the tool is named envy
[12:22] <ifireball> josh_: depends on what you put in it, this is where all your documents/files/music/video/settings goes to by default
[12:22] <wild_oscar> gluer: then I don't know
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio: Google, Forums, and you'll find something. The page I told you had windows drivers which worked well with ndiswrapper :)
 I'll try to mess things up now ! if I make it work I'll let you know how ;)
[12:22] <obnibolongo> amerio, good luck :)
[12:23] <wild_oscar> gluer: appearence
[12:23] <Villarroel> Why there aren't jigdo files for 8.04 desktop?
[12:23] <wild_oscar> theme -customize
[12:23] <obnibolongo> Tasmaniak, you welcome :)
 thanx mate
[12:23] <wild_oscar> you have icons there
[12:23] <Boredom_inc> ﻿Glas`Awyr: You mean 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>'?
[12:23] <obnibolongo> amerio, :)
[12:23] <josh_> boredom_inc:  could i mount my ext3 directory in my ntfs data partition?  i don't care if windows can't read it.
[12:23] <case_> Kirby, you only need to install packages from the package manager (synaptic) .  you can try to install the package nvidia-settings, it should eventualy set it up to you, but i'm not 100% positive on that point...
[12:23] <wild_oscar> btw, can anyone check if "help" works on appearence?
[12:23] <MarV-> are there any problems with envy in 8.04?
[12:24] <mademelaugh> !ext3 | josh_
[12:24] <ubotu> josh_: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:24] <iKar> I need help please !!!
[12:24] <wild_oscar> system -preferences - appearance - help
[12:24] <wild_oscar> mine does not work
[12:24] <mademelaugh> iKar, ask, sir
[12:24] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:24] <neeto> What's an alternative to VMWare that's open source?
[12:24] <gopp> any one know if wubi works with a external dtive
[12:24] <obnibolongo> neeto, VirtualBox
[12:24] <Riot777> anyone here got maybe Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP tv tuner?
[12:24] <case_> Kirby, setting up the proprietary driver for nvidia videocard is one of the most documented question on ubuntu, i'm not the most qualified to help you...
[12:24] <neeto> cool
[12:24] <obnibolongo> neeto, but really depends on what you want to do
[12:24] <eth01> morning :)
[12:25] <mademelaugh> neeto, yep
[12:25] <Kirby> case_: should XFCE be installed from apt-get also?
[12:25] <case_> Kirby, yes
[12:25] <Zarin> 8.04 installer problem: I'm using the Live CD installer but when I get to the partition step the list contains nothing and all the buttons are disabled. Does anyone know anything about this bug?
[12:25] <obnibolongo> neeto, for example, setting up an connectin which is not NAT is a bitch in Linux
[12:25] <josh_> mademelaugh:then what was Boredome_inc talking about?
[12:25] <mademelaugh> !xfce | Kirby
[12:25] <ubotu> Kirby: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[12:25] <obnibolongo> neeto, though Ubuntu wiki is very helpful :)
[12:25] <Boredom_inc> josh_: I'm getting a bit lost as to what you are asking now... Just make a ext3 partition and mount it as /home ... You can back it up when you backup your NTFS partition.
[12:25] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:25] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, not working here
[12:25] <mademelaugh> josh_, sorry but you know the channel is so busy
[12:25] <NekoKun> !minimal
[12:25] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:25] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: cheers, I'll submit a bug then
[12:25] <NekoKun> mmmm
[12:26] <LainIwakura> Hello, can someone help me with my Internet connection? The network seems to be down, and I can't get it to detect an available wireless network.
[12:26] <case_> Kirby, you have a meta-package called xubuntu-desktop which will install all the packages related to the XFCE desktop...
[12:26] <case_> Kirby, but it will take a lot of disk space...
[12:26] <NekoKun> there's no 8.04 minimal...
[12:26] <mademelaugh> less than gnome...:p
[12:26] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"
[12:26] <iKar> and everything stops
[12:27] <tabenx> I've been searching google for hours and i cant seem to find something similar to both alltray and mail-notification for Evolution. For the most part all i want is to be able to minimize Evolution to tray but with a program that works with compiz-fusion, as alltray does not. Any suggestions?
[12:27] <josh_> Boredome_inc:  "<Boredom_inc>	josh_: In fact if you want you could mount the ext3 home directory in windows. I do this also... mind you windows has even less support for ext3 than linux has for NTFS. I did it mostly cause it looks cool"  what do you mean by mounting the ext3 home directory in windows?
[12:27] <case_> mademelaugh, i mean, having xubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop is a little bit too much :)
[12:27] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:27] <chazco> Hi... anyone know if there is a HCL for 8.04? (checking if a Nova-T USB2 stick will work)
[12:27] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, did you do fresh install or upgrade? I did an upgrade
[12:27] <Boredom_inc> Anyways, back to the question I came here to ask... does anybody know of any firefox plugin or something of that nature that views PDFs inside the browser other than the Adobe plugin
[12:27] <mademelaugh> case_, indeed, x isn't important, though
[12:27] <banshe> does anyone run k8m800 via grphx card smoothly in fiesty or hardy?
[12:27] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help!
[12:27] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"
[12:27] <Kirby> is there a way to always run everything from root?
[12:28] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: Evince does that for me
[12:28] <banshe> at least 2D working smoothly would be great
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help?
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened"?
[12:28] <case_> Kirby, do you mean "is there a way to screw everything fast?" :)
[12:28] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: an upgrade
[12:28] <Kirby> case_: I'm not afraid
[12:28] <case_> Kirby, don't do that. use sudo
[12:28] <iKar> when I try to boot live cd It says The display server has been shut down for about 6 times In the last 90 sec Its likely smthng bad happened" help?
[12:28] <grimsqueaker13> when i connect to a vnc server my keyboard input is completely garbled - does anyone know what i can do to fix this? i have check the -fp setting i think it is correct
[12:28] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: not sure how the Ubuntu folks did that, probably using moz-plugger
[12:28] <Zarin> iKar, stop spamming
[12:28] <wild_oscar> jtravnick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831
[12:28] <makkbe> iKar: boot in safe graphics mode
[12:28] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Why doesn't it do it for me :( ubuntu 8.04
[12:28] <albech> anyone know how to delete all smtp information in Thunderbird?
[12:28] <wild_oscar> if you can confirm it
[12:28] <Kirby> case_: I have enter the pass each time anyway. what's the difference? it takes more time
[12:29] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:29] <iKar> THX FINNALY :8( why that happens?
[12:29] <Kirby> case_: and I have backups, please teach me that
[12:29] <wild_oscar> anyone with a fresh install of hardy can confirm, please?
[12:29] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: not sure, what happens when you click on a PDF?
[12:29] <mademelaugh> Boredom_inc, what is it
[12:29] <makkbe> iKar: incompatible graphics card or something
[12:29] <case_> Kirby, you can use "sudo -s" which will give you a root shell. but use with care.
[12:29] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, k will confirm it now
[12:29] <makkbe> can be due to tons of things
[12:29] <Kirby> case_: how's that?
[12:29] <Glas`Awyr> Anyone here use xChat on Ubuntu?
[12:30] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:30] <nullkuhl> ﻿guys,, just installed hardy heron ,, got an ati x1800 mob radeon, activated restricted driver,, when enabling effects the whole system freezes pls advice !!
[12:30] <tailsfan> I do
[12:30] <wild_oscar> does anyone have a working fresh install of hardy?
[12:30] <Kirby> case_: I just run sudo -s and it never asks for password anymore?
[12:30] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it
[12:30] <HSNews> which plugin for 'mc' for syntax highlighting?
[12:30] <snp> anyone know why?
[12:30] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: i do
[12:30] <wild_oscar> that can check a broken link - takes 20 seconds
[12:30] <HSNews> for Mc`s Editor (F4)
[12:30] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: can you please check this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831
[12:30] <tabenx> I've been searching google for hours and i cant seem to find something similar to both alltray and mail-notification for Evolution. For the most part all i want is to be able to minimize Evolution to tray but with a program that works with compiz-fusion, as alltray does not. Any suggestions?
[12:30] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: System - Preferences - Appearance - click help
[12:30] <xee> Hi, is there a common solution for the "Could not calculate upgrade" problem?
[12:30] <case_> Kirby, you run sudo -s and you have a shell run as root, so all the commands run in this shell will be runned as root...
[12:30] <iKar> will ubuntu work then on my x1950pro if it cant boot :(
[12:31] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: and check if Help opens or if it's broken
[12:31] <Glas`Awyr> tailsfan: I'm not sure where to actually download xChat from. To me, the xChat website suggests it is available for Windows or Fedora.
[12:31] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: It just brings up the save as dialog
[12:31] <_Diego_> hello, what do u recommend: Upgrade gutsy to hardy or do a clean install?
[12:31] <Kirby> case_: cool, thanks (i have been root in windows for like 5 years anyway =) )
[12:31] <JPSmon> anyone else on here using rt2500?
[12:31] <tailsfan> Glas, where do you want it at, Windows, Ubuntu?
[12:31] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: DAMN <, its true !!
[12:31] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: I had a very delayed response there, girlfriend rang :P
[12:31] <tailsfan> I'm trying JPSMon
[12:31] <iKar> (1:30:47 PM) iKar: will ubuntu work then on my x1950pro if it cant boot :(
[12:31] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: sudp apt-get install xchat-common or use Synaptic Package manager From System menu
[12:31] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im logged into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:31] <saito> Could someone help me with installing ndiswrapper.. it refuses to work without it i can't hammer my wireless into submission :r
[12:31] <taggie> _Diego_ hardy clean install
[12:31] <JPSmon> or should I say not using it :OP
[12:31] <tailsfan> but I'm compiling as I type
[12:31] <case_> Kirby, no you haven't. window's administrator as less power than root... be carefull.
[12:31] <JPSmon> tailsfan: any luck?
[12:32] <case_> *has*
[12:32] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: can you please confirm the bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/221831 ?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> I have a Hardy troubleshooting question
[12:32] <tailsfan> It's not done yet
[12:32] <Kirby> case_: what can go wrong? will pc blow up?
[12:32] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> after upgrading from Gutsy, my ati driver isn't working properly
[12:32] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: do you have Evince installed? was your system upgraded or clean-installed? did you use that same home directory with other systems/versions?
[12:32] <Glas`Awyr> tailsfan: I want to get xChat installed for Ubuntu and I want to do it the easiest way possible *grin*
[12:32] <ken_fallon> hi all
[12:32] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:32] <guitarj1d> it won't allow me to adjust the screen resolution
[12:32] <JPSmon> tailsfan: what isn't done yet?
[12:32] <LainIwakura> Hello, does anyone know how I can get the b43 driver to work with my broadcom chipset? The wiki page doesn't help.
[12:32] <jtravnick> wild_oscar, how do i confirm just add a comment?
[12:32] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it, anyone know why, its using WPA security, all info for the connection is right(i belive)
[12:32] <case_> Kirby, you can hardly delete kernel32.dll beeing Administrator. you can delete the linux kernel beeing root. double check every "rm" or "mv" or "cp" or anything you do...
[12:32] <JPSmon> LianIwakura:  the wiki where?
[12:33] <saito> pushd ndiswrapper-*/
[12:33] <saito> sudo make uninstall
[12:33] <saito> make
[12:33] <saito> sudo make install
[12:33] <saito> popd
[12:33] <FloodBot2> saito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:33] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:33] <LainIwakura> JPSmon: in Ubuntu
[12:33] <saito> too many spaces ~_~  sorry
[12:33] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: sudp apt-get install xchat-common or use Synaptic Package manager From System menu
[12:33] <Kirby> case_: oh, ok thanks for warning.
[12:33] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:33] <gerro> excuse me where can I get torrent for xubuntu 8.04?
[12:33] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: when in doubt, make the clean-user test, make a new clean Ubuntu user with an empty home, log into it and see how it behaves
[12:33] <LainIwakura> JPSmon: Namely, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[12:33] <sipior> gerro: check the channel topic
[12:33] <HardyOne> gerro: releases.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <Glas`Awyr> gerro: Topic?
[12:33] <case_> Kirby, basicaly it's a bad habit to be root all the time. use root account only when realy needed.
[12:33] <`mIRC`> hi ... what is the different between althernet and desktop?
[12:33] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Was upgraded unfortunately but I keep it pretty clean. Although it being due to the upgrade makes sense.
[12:34] <sipior> `mIRC`: what's an althernet?
[12:34] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: done ..
[12:34] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:34] <DracoZA> he means alternate
[12:34] <raj1> my grub entry shows development version still
[12:34] <HardyOne> sipior: he means alternate cd
[12:34] <NekoKun> gerro: xubuntu website
[12:34] <saito> Could someone help me out with nsidwrapper:  Leaving directory `/home/saito/Installer stuff/ndiswrapper-1.52/driver' make: *** [install] Error 2
[12:34] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:34] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:34] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: could be mozilla-plugin related settings in your home dir, do the clean user test
[12:34] <Kirby> case_: I just started learning and need to enter that password like 100 times a day or more, that's tiring. so when I learn enough I'll stop this habit
[12:34] <NekoKun> How can I add drivers to hardy's mini.iso?
[12:34] <sipior> HardyOne: DracoZA thanks. i thought maybe i was becoming dyslexic
[12:34] <raj1> did all users get to final through upgrade ?
[12:34] <iKar> thx guy 4 having time to talk :)
[12:34] <HardyOne> Sipingal: you aer
[12:34] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: cheers
[12:34] <Glas`Awyr> Is this correct?: sudp apt-get install xchat-common
[12:35] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:35] <HardyOne> sipior: yuo aer
[12:35] <HardyOne> :P
[12:35] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: I'll worry about it later cause I should be drawing a java class diagram for uni. But test user sounds like a good idea.
[12:35] <Glas`Awyr> I was expecting sudo
[12:35] <damo22> `mIRC` the alternate disc is for textmode installs... if you dont need to do anything fancy, just get the desktop cd
[12:35] <`mIRC`> sipior> . ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.....what is the different between them?
[12:35] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: yes
[12:35] <raj1> anyone ?
[12:35] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: i found 2 other bugs !
[12:35] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:35] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: yeah sudo not sudp
[12:35] <iKar> does hardy support ati :)
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[12:35] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: where?
[12:35] <iKar> drivers
[12:35] <crashanddie> Glas`Awyr, only for sudp instead of sudo part, yes
[12:35] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: have fun diagraming... what are you using for that btw?
[12:35] <gerro> ah I found it thanks
[12:35] <case_> Kirby, you're learning? when you learn, you always finish by typing somthing stupide like "rm * ~" (instead of rm *~ for example). and then you learn (the hard way) thant you don't *want* to be root all the time :)
[12:35] <crashanddie> Glas`Awyr, you can find a package using sudo aptitude search NAME
[12:36] <ricanelite> what is the plugins do I need to have installed so if I head over to a site like computeramerica.com and stream out to listen to there audio shows
[12:36] <adil> j
[12:36] <iKar> does hardy support ati :)
[12:36] <tabenx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8024/
[12:36] <tyranos> i need help with the fn keys on my laptop plz
[12:36] <guitarj1d> iKar, the restricted driver worked for me in gutsy
[12:36] <ricanelite> because I could watch youtube videos/google videos
[12:36] <rysiek|pl> guys, what was the name of the app that allowed to create remixed Ubuntu ISOs
[12:36] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: not with buttons this time,, but 1 with the hostname file,, i change my pcs hostname after installation and then after restart system goes 100% unresponsive ! tilll i went to recovery mode and switched it back to the one choosed at installation
[12:36] <guitarj1d> iKar, but I can't get it to work in Hardy
[12:36] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Nothing as of yet... I was in the middle of asking if anybody knew of any good software for UML diagrams... I usually just draw them in GIMP or something stupid like that.
[12:36] <snp> need a bit of help with a wireless card, its a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C), i installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper, the card can detect my wireless network, but i cant connect to it, anyone know why, its using WPA security, all info for the connection is right(i belive)
[12:36] <Kirby> case_: well even I delete the whole kernel, I won't worry much =)
[12:36] <ifireball> Boredom_inc: try dia
[12:37] <Boredom_inc> ifireball: Thanks
[12:37] <case_> Kirby, are you that deseperate? :))
[12:37] <rungss> guys is it safe to upgrade to 8.04 TLS from 7.10??
[12:37] <BrianB04> Good morning all.
[12:37] <saito> Someone who could help me with installing ndiswrapper (or has other idea to hammer my usb wireless thingie into submission) please PM
[12:37] <grimsqueaker13> anyone for that vnc issue? keyboard input garbled when im connected into to gnome using tightvncserver
[12:37] <nullkuhl> wild_oscar: the second one , is with the effects, after enabling the restricted driver for my ati card then enabled effects works for 3 seconds then FULL SYSTEM Freeze ,, not even responsive to power button
[12:37] <crashanddie> rungss, yes, of course
[12:37] <Kirby> case_: I have the installation cd right here, it will take no more than 15 mins to install it back =)
[12:37] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: did u change hostname in nm-applet?
[12:37] <case_> Kirby, anyway, it's never too early to have good habits.
[12:37] <rungss> crashhanddie: Thanks I have already started upgrading it..
[12:37] <Boredom_inc> rungss: I did and everything is all good ... err I had to fiddle around with my sound a bit but that might have just been my system. Although some people prefer a clean install.
[12:38] <nullkuhl> no.. i changed host name by editing /etc/hostname file
[12:38] <iKar> guitarJ1D:do u know how to make the mwork
[12:38] <rungss> was a littlew concerned if anything goes wrong
[12:38] <Kirby> case_: agreed
[12:38] <wild_oscar> nullkuhl: graphics are always a pain...
[12:38] <Glas`Awyr> Okay. Command accepted merrily, but now I am being asked for my password "[sudo] password for myusername:" but no input is being accepted.
[12:38] <nullkuhl> ﻿wild_oscar:i seriously regret waiting and downloading hardy
[12:38] <guitarj1d> iKar, that's what I'm trying to find out
[12:38] <crashanddie> Boredom_inc, do you know bouml ? It's far from making very nice UML diagrams, but they are 100% valid, and 100% complete, it also allows you to export in plenty formats (html, latex) and generate the code signatures for Java/C++/PHP
[12:38] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: you will not see any input but type it in and hit enter it will work
[12:38] <_Rambaldi_> its just invisible thats all Glas`Awyr
[12:38] <JPSmon> tailsfan: any luck with the rt2500 ?
[12:38] <snp> need help with a wireless network, using windows driver via ndiswrapper, pm me please!
[12:38] <Glas`Awyr> Okay... it worked!
[12:38] <crashanddie> Boredom_inc, there's also netbeans that allows to do very nice UML, but I've tested it thoroughly
[12:38] <HardyOne> Glas`Awyr: it is a security feature
[12:39] <ricanelite> what is ubuntu restricted apps that i need to install so i could listen to audio streams that use windows media player
[12:39] <iKar> guitarj1d:have u downloaded ati drivers from their website
[12:39] <chazco> Anyone know why the Hardy live CD is in such a low resolution? Gusty used to give 1024x768... this seems to be 640x480
[12:39] <JPSmon> snp: what is your driver?
[12:39] <HardyOne> !wma | ricanelite
[12:39] <ubotu> ricanelite: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:39] <rungss> I won't be able to use my Firefox plugins I gues...???
[12:39] <Boredom_inc> crashhandle: I'll take a look, thanks
[12:39] <guitarj1d> iKar, no i just used the restricted driver downloaded automatically
[12:39] <ifireball> nullkuhl: since you changed your /etc/hostname file your /etc/hosts file is probably is probably out of sync with it, which may cause all kinds of trouble
[12:39] <snp> its for a d-link DWL-510 (Rev.C)
[12:39] <Boredom_inc> crashhanddie:*
[12:39] <guitarj1d> I didn't think ati provided linux drivers
[12:39] <nullkuhl> ifireball: yea may be it was my mistake then,, but the graphics problem is killing me
[12:40] <JPSmon> you see, ubuntu put out a faulty wireless driver on release so that we wouldn't over load the server :OP
[12:40] <iKar> guitarj1d:hmm try to down it ati provides linux drivers go on theyr www.ati.com
[12:40] <sanguisdex> guitarj1d:  the do and if you can get them to work they do pretty good
[12:40] <JPSmon> snp: what is your chipset?
[12:40] <Boredom_inc> rungss: All my firefox work except my gmail manager
[12:40] <nullkuhl> ifireball: i just downloaded the restricted driver then enabled effects,, works exactly for 3 seconds then total system freeze !
[12:40] <snp> hang on
[12:40] <JPSmon> my nVidia worked fine in 7.10 - why won't it work here?
[12:41] <HSNews> which tar options I can unpack bz2 archive?
[12:41] <sanguisdex> is there a way to upgrade using the live CD?
[12:41] <rungss> Boredom_inc: You are using Firefox 3 Beta 5 or did you revert back to Firefox 2??
[12:41] <Vitdom> How do you navigate backwards in the terminal?
[12:41] <crashanddie> JPSmon, I don't have any problems with the drivers, did you activate the restricted drivers ?
[12:41] <craigbass1976> Why have I got an /etc/samba/ folder, but no /etc/init.d/ entry ?
[12:41] <iKar> everybody has problem with graphic card ????
[12:41] <banshe> me
[12:41] <banshe> via k8m800
[12:41] <ifireball> nullkuhl: well, try fixing the /etc/hosts problem first and see what happens (in Linux graphics == networking...)
[12:41] <guitarj1d> iKar, downloading now, will let you know
[12:41] <kebab> I'm trying to set up vmware server on ubuntu 8.04. It asks me: "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]" Any idea what the correct directory might be?
[12:41] <JPSmon> sanguisdex: no, you have to use the alternate install CD
[12:41] <sanguisdex> ok
[12:42] <JPSmon> crashanddie: I mean for dual monitoring
[12:42] <sanguisdex>  re downlaodingnow
[12:42] <damo22> !xmms
[12:42] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[12:42] <iKar> guitarj1d: yeah try it wich graph card uv got ?
[12:42] <banshe> kebab, hope u have the linux-sources package installed.
[12:42] <nullkuhl> ifireball: the network problem already fixed i switched back the original hostname
[12:42] <erhtdgbrt> hi
[12:42] <guitarj1d> iKar, 9600
[12:42] <chazco> Anyone know why the Hardy live CD is in such a low resolution? Gusty used to give 1024x768... this seems to be 640x480
[12:42] <crashanddie> JPSmon, dunno then
[12:42] <ifireball> nullkuhl: total freezes are typically roted in hardware problems though, could your system be overheating?
[12:42] <damo22> how can i install xmms in hardy?
[12:42] <JPSmon> chazco: whats your graphics card?
[12:43] <crashanddie> kebab, that's the right answer
[12:43] <iKar> guitarj1d: I have x1950 pro and I had boot problems did U?
[12:43] <nullkuhl> ifireball: but the system doesnt freeze unless i use the wobble windows effect,,
[12:43] <crashanddie> kebab, defaults usually work
[12:43] <kebab> crashanddie: It'd not the right answer
[12:43] <chazco> JPSmon - Its an onboard nvidia card... gives 1024x768 on gusty cd, 1440x900 on gusty with drivers... 640x480 on Hardy...
[12:43] <ifireball> nullkuhl: does the system work right without effects? say, using the restricted driver and playing a 3D game?
[12:43] <kebab> banshe: where do I get linux-sources?
[12:43] <ifireball> nullkuhl: the wobble is one of the more demanding effects afaik
[12:44] <nullkuhl> a 3d game ? have none currently
[12:44] <guitarj1d> iKar, no problem with boot, but I can't adjust screen resolution and the shut down screen colors are all messed up
[12:44] <chazco> JPSmon - Hopefully the drivers will be available when installed, but making install tricky :)
[12:44] <banshe> kebab, synaptic
[12:44] <nullkuhl> ifireball: works fine without effects !
[12:44] <JPSmon> chazco : and annoying yeah
[12:44] <Boredom_inc> rungss: Massively delayed response but I'm using firefox 3 beta.... If I were you I wouldn't revert back it's great.
[12:44] <iKar> guitarj1d : yea I will install hardy 2day so Im worried about my grap cad:(
[12:44] <crashanddie> kebab, install the kernel headers like someone pointed out, they'll get installed in the default directory
[12:44] <damo22>   xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[12:44] <JPSmon> I propose there should be a different chat room for video problems and a different chat room for wireless card problems
[12:44] <Glas`Awyr> If I'm using "supo apt-get install xchat-common" and getting back "E: Couldn't find package xhcat-common", might I be needing to download something?
[12:45] <tehgeek> Gwar.  Anyone have any trouble getting the "Debian" menu to show up in the applications menu?
[12:45] <chazco> JPSmon - Sounds like a good idea... having partioning issues now
[12:45] <wigren> where do i fine the utility to increase the screen brightness
[12:45] <kebab> banshe: linux-sources isn't a package
[12:45] <rungss> 73 Packages are going to be removed
[12:45] <rungss> 196 new Packages are going to be installed
[12:45] <tehgeek> I've tried using "update-menus," using alacarte, and everything, and no luck.
[12:45] <rungss> 1108 packages are going to be upgraded
[12:45] <rungss> You have to download a total of 1070M This download will take about 11 hours
[12:45] <kebab> crashanddie: What package?
[12:45] <FloodBot2> rungss: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:45] <mohamed_> hello all white download ubuntu it interupped and the download site not respond can i complate download from another mirror or this affect downloaded data ?
[12:45] <Oprtz> when i play dvd in mplayer it shows this error "  Fatal Error, Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. " what to do ?
[12:45] <guitarj1d> iKar, yeah my screen resolution is at 1920x1200, kind of hard to see on a 17 inch screen,  I have the driver file downloaded
[12:45] <DracoZA> lol @ rungss
[12:45] <Boredom_inc> rungss: lol what internet?
[12:45] <banshe> kebab, install that deb from synaptic
[12:45] <guitarj1d> iKar, any idea how to install it  *.run?
[12:45] <ifireball> nullkuhl: try working a while with the most basic effects setting, see if if freezes after a while (when opening lots of windows or something)
[12:45] <JPSmon> tehgeek - hail gwar
[12:45] <Zarin> 8.04 installer problem: I'm using the Live CD installer but when I get to the partition step the list contains nothing and all the buttons are disabled. Does anyone know anything about this bug?
[12:46] <tehgeek> JPSmon, K, now how to fix my problem.  xD
[12:46] <iKar> guitarj1d: do u know good website with ubuntu commands..are u in ubuntu now?
[12:46] <bXi> why does firefox 3b5 mess up my DPI
[12:46] <kebab> banshe: synaptic doens;t find any package called linux-sources
[12:46] <rungss> 1040 M thats about a GB
[12:46] <JPSmon> die for Oderous
[12:46] <JPSmon> <---- knows nothing about debian
[12:46] <pere_> plese help, I don kow why my sistem ferr
[12:46] <banshe> kebab, may be linux-source or kernel-source?
[12:46] <tehgeek> JPSmon, If you know anything about Ubuntu, then you know SOMETHING about Debian ;)
[12:46] <DracoZA> Hold thumbs im about to boot up for the first time after installing
[12:46] <pere_> freze a lot
[12:46] <rungss> What should I do??
[12:47] <rhineheart_m> anybody here who could tell me an experience of heron in server environment?
[12:47] <tehgeek> JPSmon, But Debian isn't really an issue, it's just the "Debian" applications menu that I can't get to show up on my main menu.
[12:47] <case_> debian: ubuntu not for human beeings :)
[12:47] <gord> mohamed_: best way is to use bittorrent, really
[12:47] <guitarj1d> iKar, I'm using 7.10 but still kind of new at it to be honest, whenever I have a problem just check the forums,  I have a good unix cheet sheet thoughhttp://blog.lxpages.com/ultimate_linux.html
[12:47] <crashanddie> kebab, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[12:47] <usernamed> Hi all, is this the right place to ask a question about getting a Belkin USB wireless device working?
[12:47] <JPSmon> good luck DravoZA
[12:47] <JPSmon> good luck DracoZA
[12:47] <pere_> plese help, I don kow why my sistem fereze a lot, can  I find a system doctor" to see what happen??
[12:47] <mohamed_> gord this mean to start from begining :)
[12:47] <Kirby> how do I find out the name of the current display?
[12:48] <crashanddie> pere_, check the syslog
[12:48] <mohamed_> gord,  i already download moe than 600 MB
[12:48] <JPSmon> Belkin is the devil
[12:48] <kebab> crashanddie: I already had the latest version
[12:48] <pere_> how?
[12:48] <damo22> i had to download 1800mb for hardy upgrade
[12:48] <iKar> guitarj1d: Im new also and if it wont install .run tnn  I dont know :S
[12:48] <gord> mohamed_: yes, unfortunately, because most meathods dont resume from different places, BUT tell me "how" u downloaded it so far?
[12:48] <wigren> i just upgraded to 8.04 but i can not find how to adjust the brightness of my laptop monitor. any ideas?
[12:48] <pere_> sorry i'm not expert!
[12:48] <banshe> thats y time and again i tell here dont use upgrade.
[12:48] <kebab> crashanddie: and still "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory."
[12:48] <JPSmon> Usernamed: here and the forums.   Belkin is the devil.  Offers NO software
[12:48] <usernamed> I'm beginning to believe Belkin are the devil, one model number (F5D7050) and 5 different chipsets...
[12:48] <Boredom_inc> usernamed: Well forums are probably a better spot to search first, but people here can probably help
[12:49] <JPSmon> LOL
[12:49] <mohamed_> gord, i use wget -c ...url
[12:49] <nullkuhl> ifireball: either with basic or massive effects when trying to move windows system freezes at once but when trying other effects like fading and minimizing effects works fine
[12:49] <crashanddie> kebab, ln -s /usr/src/`uname -r` /usr/src/linux
[12:49] <Boredom_inc> Lol I'm so confused why is everybodys upgrades bigger than the iso.... Mine wasn't Ls
[12:49] <crashanddie> kebab, sudo that
[12:49] <JPSmon> wonder if there is any local linux guru's I can hire in my town
[12:50] <crashanddie> JPSmon, what's your local town ?
[12:50] <Kirby> what should fps be in glxgears in norm?
[12:50] <gord> mohamed_:aha good. then u can probably save the file into the torrent location and it will pick it up fro there :)
[12:50] <iKernel> JPSmon which town are you in
[12:50] <HardyOne> JPSmon: you can become your local linux guru
[12:50] <usernamed> Basically, I'm running lsusb -v and getting the following two lines...
[12:50] <gord> mohamed_:it will find it and resume from maybe 80% (a guess)
[12:50] <kebab> crashanddie: actually I think I have a different problem, need to go
[12:50] <usernamed> iManufacturer           1 Manufacturer_Realtek
[12:50] <usernamed>   iProduct                2 Belkin Wireless G USB Adapter
[12:50] <mohamed_> thx, gord i will try
[12:51] <crashanddie> kebab, seems the symlink isn't there, have the same problem, issue what I said, should work
[12:51] <ifireball> nullkuhl: sounds like a bug... or a faulty GFX card
[12:51] <usernamed> I'm guessing Realtek do more than one chipset, how do I narrow down what I've got?
[12:51] <nullkuhl> hmmm
[12:51] <HardyOne> JPSmon: perhaps geeksquad is in your area ?
[12:51] <iKernel> usernamed, what problem do you have?
[12:51] <xhamahx> hello, i am using a dell m1330 laptop, when i installed ubuntu, i hav trouble using the internal mic, can anyone help me
[12:52] <kebab> crashanddie: still "The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory." have to go now, sorry
[12:52] <gord> mohamed_: if not dont delete the file u have so far, it may be possible, just ask again if u have problems, someone will help, say u have incomplete wget-ed file and someone might have an idea :) w'salam
[12:52] <usernamed> lsusb shows the belkin device, but there's no wlan0 or other network device
[12:52] <guitarj1d> iKar, installing I will let you know "Type "chmod +x example.run" (press enter).
[12:52] <guitarj1d> 4.  Now type "./example.run", press enter, and the installer will run."
[12:52] <LainIwakura> Hello, can someone help me configure my broadcom chipset? The wiki page is not helpful. Thanks.
[12:52] <crashanddie> kebab, you must have messed up the command I gave you
[12:52] <ifireball> nullkuhl: try playing a game with effects off, I don't really know which 3D games are bundled with Ubuntu though, check the Add/Remove applet
[12:52] <mohamed_> thx gord, salam :)
[12:53] <JPSmon> HardyOne: geeksquad only installs stereos for rich old people
[12:53] <Glas`Awyr> I am apparently a failure.
[12:53] <mademelaugh> LainIwakura, what does hwinfo say
[12:53] <NekoKun> Can I add drivers to hardy's mini.iso?
[12:53] <marvxxx> just upgraded to hardy and my flash plugin in firefox doesnt have sound no more..any ideas?
[12:53] <iKernel> usernamed ah, is it the belkin wireless usb?
[12:53] <Nuc134rB0t> usernamed, type lspci
[12:53] <usernamed> iKernel, It certainly is
[12:53] <Pord> any1 else having driver issues with ati graphics cards?
[12:53] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: Does everything else have sound? eg. Totem etc.?
[12:53] <HardyOne> JPSmon: hehe is that so? I just remember seeing the cars on the road thinking I need to get a job with those guys
[12:53] <harveyd> how do you enable modules in apache installed in ubuntu?
[12:53] <iKernel> usernamed I doubt you'll have much luck with usb wireless, I'd recccommend buying a dlink card with an atheros chipset
[12:54] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: yep...but i found a thread at forums
[12:54] <harveyd> i remember it had a funny command line helped, but cant find / remember the name
[12:54] <LainIwakura> mademelaugh: i'm not booted in ubuntu now.. will ifconfig, iwconfig, lshw -C network, lspci, or lsmod suffice (those of which I have written down)
[12:54] <ere4si> NekoKun: the mini iso is the net install  - most apps are d/loaded
[12:54] <HardyOne> harveyd: restart apache after you add the modules to your .conf
[12:54] <iKernel> usernamed anything with an atheros chipset will do actually, best to get one that goes into PCI port
[12:54] <xhamahx> hello, i am using a dell m1330 laptop, when i installed ubuntu, i hav trouble using the internal mic, can anyone help me
[12:54] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: lol ok
[12:54] <NekoKun> ere4si: But I need some basic drivers... even to the wireless...
[12:54] <usernamed> the case is such that the graphics card coolling hangs over the one remaining pci slot, no pci expansion possible :(
[12:54] <snask> xhamahx, what soundcard do you got?
[12:54] <iKernel> usernamed and I know the nature of new linux users, they will fight trying to make their current hardware work instead of buying something else. but the better option is to go out and buy something else
[12:54] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: i will check
[12:54] <plagerism> Is there anyway to automatically set the execute bit on oridinary files ala umask or any other means?
[12:55] <crashanddie> xhamahx, could be please explain more "having troubles" isn't an error message
[12:55] <marvxxx> Boredom_inc: works
[12:55] <ifireball> harveyd, HardyOne: if its apache2 there is a command a2-something (use tab...)
[12:55] <ere4si> NekoKun: then the mini iso won't be appropriate for you afaik
[12:55] <iKar> oki I downloaded drivers and Im waiting thx 4 command
[12:55] <crashanddie> plagerism, chmod +x file
[12:55] <usernamed> iKernel, is there no USB solution possible?
[12:55] <Glas`Awyr> I'm going to have one more poke at this. If I can't get xChat running on my machine there is no hope for me.
[12:55] <ToM-X> Hey, Can someone take a look at this for me. I want to know if my WIFI now works without Ndiswrapper http://i29.tinypic.com/14b6jqe.png
[12:55] <HardyOne> ifireball: no idea. just know that apache needs to be rehashed/restarted anytime you add something to it
[12:55] <Ravenkin> Can you use a KDE application on a Gnome system?
[12:55] <harveyd> a2enmod
[12:55] <xhamahx> i mean, ubuntu itself dont detect the mic,
[12:55] <harveyd> thats it, thanks
[12:55] <plagerism> crashanddie: ala umask, as in automatically upon creation
[12:56] <ifireball> harveyd: a2enmod
[12:56] <crashanddie> plagerism, no, why would you need it ?
[12:56] <iKernel> usernamed probably, but the belkin usb is very crap anyway, and drops out frequently. I had to install the drivers on windows frequently whenever it stopped working
[12:56] <Boredom_inc> marvxxx: This is the standard flash plugin yes? As in adobes?
[12:56] <iKernel> usernamed, so even if you can  get it working, it will probably not be worth it
[12:56] <ere4si> Ravenkin: you can but alot of extras will be d/loaded to make it work
[12:56] <beniamino> how do i control what meta-release file is used? every time i run update-manager on hardy, i get 'current dist not found in meta-release file'
[12:56] <Ravenkin> ere4si thanks
[12:56] <Boredom_inc> Does anyone know which mixed flash plugin uses by default... eg. ALSA
[12:56] <ere4si> k
[12:56] <ToM-X> Anyone lol?
[12:57] <crashanddie> plagerism, only the program that creates the file can set given bits on it, the samba server allows you to set execute bits, but you need to go through it
[12:57] <ifireball> HardyOne: yeah, but you don't need to actually tweak the conf file since the apache2 config is modular, you have symlink directories a-la /etc/rc*.d
[12:57] <Batch> #ubuntu - I installed the correct drivers using ndisgtk, It said there WAS hardware for it so i don't see why the light should stay orange. I also modprobed.
[12:57] <iKernel> ToM-X what?
[12:57] <Glas`Awyr> I am in the Add/Remove Applications window. I can see xChat. I click it, and it tells me "The list of applications is not available"
[12:57] <usernamed> iKernel, thanks for the advice.  All, if anyone knows of a usb solution that works out of the box with Ubuntu I'd greatly appreciate it.
[12:57] <HardyOne> ifireball: my answer was very general I realise. but he got the jist I think
[12:57] <iKernel> Batch, have tried scanning around for aps?
[12:57] <mademelaugh> Glas`Awyr, try sudo apt-get install xchat
[12:58] <mademelaugh> !info xchat
[12:58] <ubotu> xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 301 kB, installed size 808 kB
[12:58] <ToM-X> iKernel: I just install 8.04 and seen this on the restricted hardware http://i29.tinypic.com/14b6jqe.png    does mean I can use my WIFI without NDISWRAPPER?
[12:58] <Oprtz> if i want to show screenshot to someone? how to do that? which website to use?
[12:58] <Batch> iKernel: Yes, No scan results
[12:58] <Batch> Even though i am 1 metre away from the router.
[12:58] <HardyOne> !repositories | Glas`Awyr  enable Universe and Multiverse if you have not done so
[12:58] <Glas`Awyr> "E: Couldn't find package xchat"
[12:58] <ubotu> Glas`Awyr  enable Universe and Multiverse if you have not done so: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[12:58] <crashanddie> usernamed, I'd suggest you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:58] <iKernel> ToM-X what kind of wifi do you have?
[12:58] <beniamino> can someone with a fresh hardy install tell me the contents of the file /var/lib/update-manager/meta-release-lts ?
[12:58] <usernamed> thanks crashanddie!
[12:59] <iKernel> ToM-X ah-ha, atheros. Yes, with atheros you can easily use your wifi card without ndiswrapper. download madwifi
[12:59] <iKar> Iv got some engenius wi fi will it work?
[12:59] <Boredom_inc> im going to boot... good luck with the troubles everyone... bye
[13:00] <iKernel> iKar depends
[13:00] <ifireball> HardyOne: blah blah <insert comment about how we always rush to give the old command line ways of doing stuff when Ubuntu typically includes an easier way, thus making ppl think its harder then it is>
[13:00] <psych> ubuntu guys did a fine job
[13:00] <snask> whatś the best and easyest audio streaming program för ubuntu?  with gui
[13:00] <iKar> iKErnel:On what?
[13:00] <psych> hardy is smooth
[13:00] <ToM-X> iKernel: When I try to install xen-restricted-modules-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0 it says: Depends: xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0  but it is not installable Any Idea?
[13:00] <iKernel> iKar on what kind of chisep it is
[13:00] <crashanddie> snask, gmplayer ?
[13:01] <HardyOne> ifireball: point taken and I will from now on try to not jump in when not certain of an answer :)
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X why are you trying to install xen modules? are you running an xen kernel?
[13:01] <snask> crashanddie, ill try it =)
[13:01] <psych> why totem work so bad
[13:01] <nxusr>  is there anyone else out there having problem with ndiswrapper and teh newer kernels diabling the device irq on boot?
[13:01] <psych> :/
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X seach in synaptic package manageer for madwifi, you may have to enable some repositories
[13:01] <iKar> iKernel:its engenius usb antenna and how to find on wich chipset?
[13:01] <iKernel> ToM-X if you can't find madwifi, tell me and I'll help further, it may not even be out yet
[13:01] <iKernel> for hardy
[13:02] <gord> mohamed_: i just had a thought, wget shouldn't over write the old file by default, (as long as size+filename+datestamps are the same) so you could try wget -c }differentserver/filename{ again and see what happens, but copy the file somewhere first to maske sure. I wasnt thinking straight, i assumed at first you had used something horrible like windozeIE do download it, wget is very good, i think it will just work, starting at the offset fro
[13:02] <gord> m the filesize u have
[13:02] <mademelaugh> !apt-list
[13:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-list - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:02] <f0rmat> why is it that every file i create in my htdocs folder i have to change the permissions for anyone on the web to see it
[13:02] <f0rmat> ?
[13:02] <nxusr>  is there anyone else out there having problem with ndiswrapper and the newer kernels disabling the device irq on boot?
[13:02] <ibleed> if i encrypt a partition on my hard drive can i have it so it doesn't automatically mount on boot ?
[13:02] <Batch> Also, When i use "ndiswrapper -l" it shows the driver bcmw15 as installed, So i don't see what the problem is
[13:02] <iKar> (2:01:30 PM) iKar: iKernel:its engenius usb antenna and how to find on wich chipset?
[13:02] <crashanddie> gord, wget will not resume by default, but create a different file
[13:02] <iKernel> nxusr no but personally, I wouldn't use any card that requires ndiswrapper. Find a card with an atheros chipset
[13:02] <ToM-X> iKernel: No, I only see Madwifi Tools.
[13:03] <Ravenkin> Anyone know of a front end for Cron?
[13:03] <crashanddie> iKar, lspci -v
[13:03] <nxusr> iKernel, not much of a choice, came with the notebook
[13:03] <iKernel> ToM-X, right, install madwifi tools, and tell me if it selects any other packages due to dependicies
[13:03] <MadJawa> I can't update some sources
[13:03] <gord> <crashanddie: will the -nc help? i dont recall much wget-tiness today
[13:03] <iKar> iKernel:No money :D
[13:04] <ToM-X> iKernel: No, It just installed on it's own.
[13:04] <DracoZA> why if I try to sudo do I get the message unable to resolve host ?
[13:04] <iKernel> ToM-X right, let me google around for a moment
[13:04] <ToM-X> Thanks.
[13:05] <jtravnick> MadJawa, what sources are you having problems with?
[13:05] <crashanddie> gord, it will rewrite or simply refuse to download, depending on the situation (timestamp, etc)
[13:05] <iKernel> ToM-X search for linux-restricted-modules
[13:05] <gord> crashanddie: he's already using wget -c    u suu, to continue it, its the change of server address he was worrying about
[13:05] <chazco> Can someone confirm it is now possible to skip the 30th-boot fsck by pressing a key?
[13:05] <iKernel> ToM-X oh, and open up a terminal and tell me the output of uname -r
[13:05] <crashanddie> gord, it's the same filename, so -c will always resume
[13:06] <ere4si> chazco: the escape key has always worked for me
[13:06] <bXi> does anyone know the difference between vanilla firefox and ubuntu firefox?
[13:06] <DracoZA> anyone have an idea why I cant use sudo ?
[13:06] <chazco> ere4si - Never worked for me, seems to be offering the option now in Hardy :)
[13:06] <crashanddie> DracoZA, no, but I'm sure an error message will help us
[13:06] <mademelaugh> DracoZA, why
[13:06] <ToM-X> iKernel: 2.6.24-16-generic and I have just searched.
[13:06] <DracoZA> crashanddie, few lines up..I get unable to resolve hostname
[13:06] <MadJawa> jtravnick: http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release.gpg (timed out)
[13:06] <MadJawa> and other too
[13:06] <iKernel> ToM-X did any packages come up?
[13:06] <mademelaugh> DracoZA, i think you need to edit /etc/sudoers
[13:06] <dredhammer> anyone know how to enable the nvidia closed drivers for hardy in the latest kernel?
[13:07] <ifireball> bXi: quite a few of then, Ubuntu FF for example supports installing plugins/extensions from *.deb files
[13:07] <iKernel> mademelaugh how can he do that without root priveledges though?
[13:07] <newcomer008> hallo
[13:07] <SimplySeth> how do I set to boot at runlevel 3 (command line)
[13:07] <crashanddie> DracoZA, did you change the name of your computer ?
[13:07] <iKernel> SimplySeth edit /etc/inittab
[13:07] <newcomer008> hello everybody
[13:07] <DracoZA> crashanddie, not from the install name
[13:07] <ToM-X> iKernel: Yes 18 restricted modules.
[13:07] <iKernel> SimplySeth edit the id:: part
[13:07] <thiagoss> Where can I find the hashes for the ubuntu 8.04 images?
[13:07] <bXi> ifireball: i'm having issues with some javascript/php which only gets triggered when using the firefox in ubuntu
[13:08] <HardyOne> !runlevel
[13:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:08] <SimplySeth> iKernel: funny thing .. didn't find it :-/ .. mebbe it was brain gas .. lemme look again
[13:08] <newcomer008> can someone help me with wlan pls? :( dosnt work
[13:08] <mademelaugh> iKernel, god, didn't install ubuntu yourself
[13:08] <iKernel> ToM-X ok, take a screenshot and upload it somewhere for me
[13:08] <gord_>  crashanddie: yeah i told him to put the half-baked file into a torrent client and see if it picked up from there anyways
[13:08] <damo22> can someone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/d1d6f191e
[13:08] <wookienz> should i install an irc server on ubunutu server at home of just create a channel on this irc server?
[13:08] <nikitis> Question:  When dual booting windows xp and ubuntu, does your root partion have to have a boot flag?
[13:08] <iKernel> SimplySeth, try locate inittab
[13:08] <SimplySeth> iKernel: aight .. thanks
[13:08] <wookienz> and any suggestions for an irc server for my home server...
[13:08] <wib> hi. i have some performance issues during video playback. the fan is going crazy :( it was fine under feisty
[13:09] <crashanddie> DracoZA, I remember being unable to sudo once, after changing the hostname, try rebooting, if doesn't work, you're going have to boot from another medium, mount partition, and find out what happened
[13:09] <iKernel> wib, are you running any other programs?
[13:09] <crashanddie> DracoZA, but without more information, nor anything you did, we won't be able to help, sorry
[13:09] <nikitis> Anyone?
[13:09] <crashanddie> nikitis, yes
[13:09] <gilster32> hello
[13:09] <iKernel> nikitis no it doesn't
[13:09] <ToM-X> iKernel: http://i30.tinypic.com/2z754ec.png
[13:09] <mademelaugh> crashanddie, hostname mismatch?
[13:09] <iKernel> nikitis only your boot partition has to have a boot flag
[13:09] <wib> iKernel: just firefox, pidgin, evolution
[13:09] <mademelaugh> !hostname
[13:09] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[13:10] <ifireball> bXi: well, check the versions, the Ubuntu version may be slightly older, can you give more details about your problem?
[13:10] <iKernel> nikitis however if you're booting straight to your root partition instead of having a seperate boot partition, then yes
[13:10] <gilster32> looking for info on getting gui support in one of the burning apps for old DVD-RAM discs....anyone know about this.
[13:10] <reymelsk88> windows rules  :P
[13:10] <wib> iKernel: and compiz
[13:10] <nikitis> iKernel: My windows partition has a boot flag, but my /boot doesn't  Would this cause an error 17 in Grub?
[13:10] <snp> Just make sure that the linux-restricted-modules are installed.
[13:10] <iKernel> gilster32 why use GUI when you can just use cdrecord
[13:10] <snp> how would i go about doing thatr?
[13:10] <bXi> ifireball: basicly i use mootools to POST a form
[13:10] <bXi> to a php page
[13:10] <newcomer008> iKernel: can u halp me with wlan plz? seems like you know about ubuntu well
[13:10] <damo22> can someone help me with jackd under hardy? http://pastebin.com/d1d6f191e
[13:10] <crashanddie> newcomer008, what's the matter ?
[13:10] <jerzyk86>  i have GF 8800gt with auto cooling FAN, in windows its very quaiet, but in linux it is runing alweys 100%, how can i make it lower ??
[13:10] <sarkie> Hi, just upgraded to Hardy, and done an update check now it says 177 updates, there was a partial upgrade or something else. This is wrong I assume
[13:10] <iKernel> nikitis yes, absouloutely
[13:11] <DracoZA> crashanddie, I typed sudo after logging in for the first time, brand new install and I get unknown host
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel:thats fine....how do i use cdrecord with DVD-RAM discs
[13:11] <bXi> when i print_r($_POST) i dont see anything while firebug tells me the data is what i expect
[13:11] <iKernel> wib ah-ha, compiz. were you running compiz with feisty?
[13:11] <newcomer008> crashanddie: my AVM wlan stick doesnt work
[13:11] <bXi> this only happens on firefox 2 and 3b5
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel:i need to format them as UDF
[13:11]  * SimplySeth wonders if anyone else's gdm got hosed after upgrading :-/
[13:11] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you 'cat /etc/hostname' and tell me what it says ?
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 should just be able to stick the dvd-ram stick in and go cdrecord blah.iso
[13:11] <ifireball> bXi: btw the gory details of changes Ubuntu made are in: /usr/share/doc/firefox/changelog.Debian.gz
[13:11] <wib> iKernel: yes. and it was gutsy, my mistake
[13:11] <bXi> the ubuntu versions of firefox that is
[13:11] <crashanddie> newcomer008, please explain "doesn't work", we need real error messages
[13:11] <gilster32> ikernel: no
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 you'll need soemthing to create the iso file though
[13:11] <jtravnick> MadJawa, you sure thats a valid source? also if you did an upgrade make sure your third party sources say hardy and not gutsy
[13:11] <iKernel> gilster32 what do you mean, "no"?
[13:12] <newcomer008> crashanddie: first ubuntu see the wlans near me, but if i try to connect ubuntu crashes
[13:12] <ToM-X> iKernel: http://i30.tinypic.com/2z754ec.png
[13:12] <crashanddie> newcomer008, which driver are you using ? Which version ? Which chipset ?
[13:12] <swamy> can anyone tell me how upgrade gutsy to hardy using aptitude command line
[13:12] <crashanddie> swamy, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <gilster32> ikernel: this is not a stick. i bought a long time ago a packet of DVD-RAM dvds. i want to erase them and formate them, must have a UDF filesystem.
[13:13] <newcomer008> crashanddie: im runnig an ibm t30 notebook with the new ubuntu 8.04 and the avm wlan usb stick
[13:13] <iKernel> swamy first change your apt.sources file to the hardy sources, then run apt-get update, then run apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:13] <DracoZA> crashanddie, it says "Thumper" which is the name of the machine
[13:13] <ifireball> bXi: the  print_r($_POST) command is a PHP command right?
[13:13] <SimplySeth> iKernel: its official .. I have no inittab
[13:13] <crashanddie> newcomer008, which version of the driver ?
[13:13] <NekoKun> ere4si: About the mini install, well, not even USB drivers are loaded?
[13:13] <newcomer008> crashanddie: and i use the preinstalled driver
[13:13] <swamy> crashhanddie: i did but sources are not available
[13:13] <mouseclon1> hello everyone
[13:13] <gilster32> ikernel: are you familiar with DVD-RAM media?
[13:13] <crashanddie> newcomer008, I don't know all the drivers by heart, can you try to find out ? Or at least give me the chipset name of your usb wifi dongle
[13:14] <MadJawa> jtravnick: it seems that the french servers are a bit laggy at this time
[13:14] <iKernel> ToM-X ok, looks like you've already got linux-restricted installed, have you been into the restricted drivers manager yet?
[13:14] <mouseclon1> I joined 8.04 to AD.  Now I'm unable to sudo anything.  Any ideas?
[13:14] <MadJawa> I think I should wait
[13:14] <ere4si> NekoKun: it is all about getting the necessaries from the net - so it uses minimal resources
[13:14] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ill try out to find find out what driver it exactly is
[13:14] <iKernel> gilster32 yes I am, it is used in cam corder and can be repetadly written to without having to blank the disk
[13:14] <swamy> iKernel: i did aptitude update and then aptitude full-upgrade, but links are not avalaible
[13:14] <mademelaugh> ere4si, hello, how are you doing
[13:14] <ifireball> bXi: not sure how trustworthy is firebug here, I'd try to sniff the communications, but that may be a rather radical approach, do you get any errors in the JS console?
[13:14] <crashanddie> DracoZA, hang on, what command are you executing with sudo ?
[13:14] <iKernel> swamy you're in trouble then :)
[13:14] <manawenuz> @all i just wanted some help in configuring a PPTP VPN server under ubuntu 7.10 server , can anyone help me so i can connect to this server via windows client ???
[13:14] <crashanddie> DracoZA, sudo echo "test"
[13:14] <chazco> Hi... is this correct for mediabuntu - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[13:14] <iKernel> swamy did you try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[13:14] <scizzo-> swamy: tried using do-release-upgrade ?
[13:14] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sudo nano
[13:15] <NekoKun> ere4si: yes, but, it needs to be on a lan... in my case the best option would be a wireless connection
[13:15] <Batch> Lol, I've been patient but the room isn't quietening down xD
[13:15] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sudo echo gives the same error
[13:15] <gilster32> ikernel:thats correct. but i cant write to it with any old prgram like cdrecord or k3b etc. unless i have them formatted to udf.
[13:15] <N1NCHN41L5> can anyone help me dual boot a Linux OS
[13:15] <snp> Just make sure that the linux-restricted-modules are installed.
[13:15] <snp> how would i go about doing thatr?
[13:15] <mouseclon1> or could someone point me in a direction to get sudo working with AD?
[13:15] <bXi> ifireball: everything is fine otherwise just that it doesnt show.. weirdest is that firefox 2.0.0.14 in windows works and an older firefox on a custom linux distro also works
[13:15] <intrinsyx> Howdy folks. I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little tray icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. Would anyone happen to know?
[13:15] <ere4si> NekoKun: try the alternate cd then - I don't think the mini cd will do that
[13:15] <ifireball> bXi: could your Ubuntu FF contain other plug-ins that may be in the way?  noscript, etc. ?
[13:15] <DracoZA> crashanddie, in fact just typing sudo gives me unable to resolve hostname
[13:15] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you paste the exact error ?
[13:15] <ToM-X> iKernel: Is "Hardware Drivers" the restricted driver manager in 8.04 is it not?
[13:15] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: You will need to install windows first
[13:15] <swamy> can anyne tell me from which mirror i should upgrade my gutsy to hardy
[13:16] <manawenuz> @all i just wanted some help in configuring a PPTP VPN server under ubuntu 7.10 server , can anyone help me so i can connect to this server via windows client ???
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: then install linux
[13:16] <crashanddie> DracoZA, (if it's one line only)
[13:16] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah it is
[13:16] <garu> hey everyone
[13:16] <bXi> ifireball: only extra plugin i had was greasemonkey but i removed that one now
[13:16] <dagon_> swamy; just run it with update-manager
[13:16] <iKernel> gilster32 what's the problem with formatting to udf then
[13:16] <ToM-X> iKernel: It is still the same.
[13:16] <DracoZA> crashanddie, "sudo: unable to resolve host Thumper"
[13:16] <ere4si> madamelaugh: I always do well
[13:16] <gilster32> ikernel:thats what i am trying to do ;-)
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: if you have Vista it may ba a little hairy.. I have only done 95, 98, and XP for windows dual boot
[13:16] <ifireball> bXi: what I wonder is if the data is posted at all, maybe something about the post triggers other behavior from PHP
[13:16] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: but windows has to be on the MBR
[13:16] <iKernel> gilster32 oh, right. not sure, sorry
[13:16] <intrinsyx> "Restricted Driver Manager" is now "jockey-gtk"/"Hardware Drivers" in hardy.
[13:17] <swamy> i not able to dist-upgrade gutsy since links are not available
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, ok, I think I know what this is about
[13:17] <broonie> I'm probably being really thick here but I can't seem to figure out how to drag and drop files in Hardy.
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you cat /etc/hosts and paste the output to a pastebin ?
[13:17] <N1NCHN41L5> mousecion - dual booting vista w/out sp1 is EASY
[13:17] <crashanddie> DracoZA, or just the first two lines (127.x.x.x)
[13:17] <bXi> ifireball: thats what i'd like to know
[13:17] <dagon_> swamy; run a terminal, sudo update-manager and it should pop up there. did you try that?
[13:18] <bXi> gonna try wireshark
[13:18] <garu> I just made a fresh install of the 8.04 LTS, and something I noticed is that, there was no updates available after restarting the system.Can someone tell me why, or is my system going nuts? THANKS
[13:18] <ifireball> bXi: good luck
[13:18] <N1NCHN41L5> no i have a 20g hdd  almost half to ubuntu - and i want to fill the other three partitions ext3 with puppy and puplets
[13:18] <intrinsyx> I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little *tray* icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. (No, it's not the one in gnome-applets, called cpufreq-selector)  Would anyone happen to know?
[13:18] <ToM-X> iKernel: Shall I just try and compile and Install?
[13:18] <swamy> can anyne tell me from which mirror i should upgrade my gutsy to hardy
[13:18] <swamy> please  help me
[13:19] <intrinsyx> garu: 8.04 was just released this morning, there are no updates yet.
[13:19] <gotenks> i doubt there would be many(if any) updates to hardy, since its been out for not even 1 day
[13:19] <N1NCHN41L5> i tried an when i loaded muppy008 it tore up GRUB an NADA worked
[13:19] <iKernel> gilster32 you might find this interesting, http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-udf/
[13:19] <crashanddie> swamy, a local mirror
[13:19] <DracoZA> crashanddie, Line 1 "127.0.0.1 localhost" Line 2 "127.0.0.1 Thumper.ZATRM"
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, bingo
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, can you gksudo /etc/hosts ?
[13:19] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah, you're going to need the kernel sources though
[13:19] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ive copied the part of syslog which is about the wlan stick i just put in. here it is: http://pastebin.com/d1b0e484b
[13:19] <garu> intrinsyx humn...thanks!I thought it came out yesterday!lol
[13:19] <beniamino> can i switch apt-get to to a local mirror? is there a mirror in the uk?
[13:19] <iKernel> ToM-X while I've been sucessful in doing that, it may require a little bit of experience in linux
[13:19] <newcomer008> crashanddie: hope it says oemthing helpful
[13:19] <crashanddie> DracoZA, gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[13:19] <intrinsyx> swamy: open up "Software Sources" and pick something else from the "Download from" box
[13:19] <N1NCHN41L5> ints in - right click on bar on screen add item and its in there
[13:20] <intrinsyx> swamy: pick "Other" and then click the Best Server button.
[13:20] <DracoZA> crashanddie, ok im in
[13:20] <crashanddie> DracoZA, ok, edit the second line
[13:20] <ifireball> bXi: did you check if the data may have been sent with GET rather then POST ?
[13:20] <ToM-X> iKernel: Where would I get/enable these sources?
[13:20] <crashanddie> DracoZA, "127.0.0.1 Thumper.ZATRM Thumper"
[13:20] <intrinsyx> garu: To me, it's not yesterday until I go to sleep... LOL, sorry!
[13:21] <swamy> i am unable to dist-upgrade
[13:21] <DracoZA> crashanddie, ok done
[13:21] <Batch> I've installed the bcmw15 driver using ndisgtk, and also modprobed it. But the light never turns blue :S Any suggestions?
[13:21] <swamy> ikernel: yes i did
[13:21] <arvind_khadri> swamy, that should update-mabager -d
[13:21] <crashanddie> DracoZA, save, try to sudo
[13:21] <arvind_khadri> swamy, that should update-manager -d
[13:21] <crashanddie> DracoZA, if same error, reboot
[13:21] <iKernel> ToM-X should be able to search for linux-sources in synaptic
[13:21] <swamy> iKernel: i am in trouble
[13:21] <crashanddie> newcomer008, hang on, looking into it, gimme a sec
[13:21] <garu> I'm having a problem I didnt use to have with the previous version...Basically, I cannot enable my restricted drivers.It recognised it, and downloaded it and installed it.Its in use, but it's not enabled, and in terms of graphics is really weird because of that.Can someone help?THANKS
[13:21] <iKernel> swamy yes you are :)
[13:21] <DracoZA> crashanddie, sorry just noticed first line 127.0.0.1 and second is 127.0.1.1 is that correct ?
[13:22] <crashanddie> DracoZA, yeah that's fine
[13:22] <garu> intrinsyx yeah, ur right.lol
[13:22] <N1NCHN41L5> If anyone can help me load puppy linux to its own partition of the hd with ubuntu already running PLEASE PM ME
[13:22] <newcomer008> crashanddie: no prob, just take the time u need :)
[13:22] <yaroslav> Hi everyone. Is it safe to upgrade production servers now or update servers are slow as hell atm?
[13:22] <intrinsyx> yaroslav: us.archive.ubuntu.org is still slow as fsck.
[13:22] <crashanddie> swamy, stop asking, use a local mirror, check the mirror list on the Ubuntu.com website, find something close to you, and stick to it.
[13:22] <Derspankster> slow
[13:22] <DracoZA> crashanddie, thanks its working fine, what a strange problem :)
[13:22] <ere4si> yaroslav: wait a day or two :)
[13:23] <iKernel> god, there are SO many people here
[13:23] <ToM-X> iKernel: linux-source-2.6.24  ?
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, you upgraded from gutsy to hardy, no ?
[13:23] <swamy> iKernel: is hardy stable released  or is it in testing phase
[13:23] <iKernel> ToM-X that's the one :)
[13:23] <mouseclon1> N1NCHN41L5: You got me on that one.  I have yet to try and dual boot multi *nix systems.  Though I should.. I just have a laptop or 2 that I can blow away at any time needed for a different OS
[13:23] <Batch> Rofl
[13:23] <DracoZA> crashanddie, brand new install
[13:23] <ObiTeh1> Ubuntu 8.04... Awesome! Compiz Fusion finally works with my card! <3 Love it!
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, weird
[13:23] <stahlstift> Hello there, how can I automount my second harddrive in 8.04. In 7.10 it automatically mounted my drives to the desktop
[13:23] <DracoZA> crashanddie, indeed
[13:23] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, its due to the new release
[13:23] <crashanddie> DracoZA, maybe you should try to file a bug or something
[13:23] <intrinsyx> yaroslav: Switch over to another mirror and it's pretty fast. I'm using archive.linux.duke.edu and getting ~500KB/sec
[13:23] <iKernel> ObiTeh1 great! now try to get it working with xfce4! good luck, you'll need it :)
[13:23] <red_> hi. help me fix my net connection. its very slow. i have disabled ipv6 already and no luck. pls
[13:23] <iKernel> arvind_khadri I'm aware of that.
[13:24] <ifireball> yaroslav: if you have more then one server you should consider using a proxy repository anyway
[13:24] <intrinsyx> red_: It's not you, it's the servers.
[13:24] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, :)
[13:24] <ObiTeh1> iKernel, heh, maybe at a later date. :P
[13:24] <yaroslav> ifireball: i have 4, but they are all hosted VPSes :-/
[13:24] <iKernel> arvind_khadri i'm giving my bit to the community by helping people out, even though i don't currently use ubuntu :)
[13:24] <Batch> My turn?
[13:24] <Batch> :P
[13:24] <intrinsyx> red_: Switch mirrors or wait a day or two.
[13:24] <Batch> I've installed the bcmw15 driver using ndisgtk, and also modprobed it. But the light never turns blue :S Any suggestions?
[13:24] <iKernel> Batch wlanconfig
[13:24] <ifireball> yaroslav: I see.
[13:24] <rafelbev> i would like to update my hardy heron from beta to release, but i don't have X installed. how can I do it without the update-manager ?
[13:24] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, thats really nice of you...so you must be a debian guy
[13:25] <N1NCHN41L5> mousecion can i pm u?
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri yes actually
[13:25] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it says the stick got deactivated, did you deactivate it ?
[13:25] <DracoZA> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer writes resolutions to xorg.conf ?
[13:25] <red_> intrinsyx: not really the ubuntu servers i am having problem. even web browsing is slow. my gutsy didnt have this prob
[13:25] <intrinsyx> rafelbev: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:25] <bXi> ifireball: its being sent with post
[13:25] <crashanddie> newcomer008, also, you wouldn't have older logs ? Possibly from when you had a freeze ?
[13:25] <Batch> iKernel - Sec, Installing madwifi-tools
[13:25] <newcomer008> crash, nope. it happens simly w/o reason :(
[13:25] <arvind_khadri> iKernel, aah knew it ...its really very nice of you...debain actually kinda hates ubuntu
[13:25] <NekoKun> !alternate
[13:25] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri actually, I got really excited by the hostname thing from the bot, im going to try that when i next get into debian
[13:25] <newcomer008> crashanddie: i only put it into the slot, nothing more
[13:25] <iKernel> arvind_khadri yeah I know, but I can still help :)
[13:25] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:25] <zrex> Anyone know why the FONTS LOOK SMUDGY on Ubuntu v 8.04
[13:25] <yaroslav> BTW how does one update to kubuntu with KDE4 on board? I saw a note that is possible but no instructions
[13:26] <NekoKun> ere4si: What comes with the minimal? Or there's only bash and apt-get?
[13:26] <intrinsyx> rafelbev: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:26] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to decrease the icon spacing on the desktop?????
[13:26] <ifireball> bXi: according to the sniffed data?
[13:26] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:26] <Myrtti> indian_munnda: dist-upgrade isn't recommended
[13:26] <iKernel> !hostname
[13:26] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[13:26] <garu> intrinsyx any idea on why restricted drivers are downloaded sucessfully, and are in use, but if its enabled, after the system is restarted, I get no desktop after the loading screen?
[13:26] <rafelbev> intrinsyx: same thing
[13:26] <newcomer008> crashanddie: but i still can see my wlan-network at my home. when i try to connect now ubuntu will simply load all the time and i cannot do anything more
[13:26] <N1NCHN41L5> ANY HELP DUAL BOOTING LINUX OS's
[13:26] <dredhammer> anyone figure out how to install the closed nvidia drivers if you did not do a clean install?
[13:26]  * intrinsyx shrugs
[13:26] <Myrtti> indian_munnda: sorry
[13:26] <red_> intrinsyx: is my problem out of ubuntu scope?
[13:27] <ere4si> NekoKun: it is just a means of connecting to the packages - a basic means at that
[13:27] <Myrtti> intrinsyx: dist-upgrade isn't recommended
[13:27] <intrinsyx> tar up your homedir and do a clean install.
[13:27] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5 yeah, easy, but only once you stop using caps
[13:27] <Batch> iKernel: I did : wlanconfig eth1, Is this correct?
[13:27] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it doesn't crash anymore ?
[13:27] <rafelbev> Myrtti: what is ?
[13:27] <iKernel> Batch, try a wlanconfig list
[13:27] <indian_munnda> Myrtti: it's okay
[13:27] <Myrtti> rafelbev: update-manager -c
[13:27] <rafelbev> Myrtti: i don't have update-manager
[13:27] <arvind_khadri> N1NCHN41L5, ok
[13:27] <bXi> ifireball: the sniffed data doesnt tell me anything :/
[13:27] <intrinsyx> Myrtti: update-manager requires X.
[13:27] <amerio> obnibolongo mate u still there?
[13:28] <Myrtti> intrinsyx: dist-upgrade still isn't recommended
[13:28] <crashanddie> newcomer008, there seems to be a bug in the driver for you usb stick, there is a work around, everything is explained here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/200589
[13:28] <DracoZA> I think i'm gonna stick to 7.10 for a little while longer :)
[13:28] <rafelbev> Myrtti: this is a server
[13:28] <Batch> iKernel: Unable to get station information, I did "wlanconfig eth1 list"
[13:28] <bXi> hmmmmmm
[13:28] <ToM-X> iKernel: I have installed it, am I ok to compile Madwifi and install?
[13:28] <mademelaugh> Myrtti, shouln't it be updat-manager -d
[13:28] <indian_munnda> Myrtti: can you tell me how to decrease the icon spacing on the desktop?????
[13:28] <mademelaugh> update
[13:28] <crashanddie> DracoZA, why is that ? New problem ?
[13:28] <iKernel> ToM-X yeah, you might get error though, tell me if you do
[13:28] <dmsuperman> Disabling window decorations in compiz removes my window frames completely (titlebar and border) How can I bring them back?
[13:28] <ifireball> bXi: you positing to https?
[13:28] <newcomer008> crashanddie: oh damn :O i know why it crashes. its my fault. ill configured my router do refuse new wlan components
[13:28] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: open up gconf-editor and find the gconf key.
[13:28] <bXi> ifireball: it seems as if nothing from mootools gets posted
[13:28] <roocraig> i have a problem with my screensaver preferences
[13:28]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[13:28] <f0rmat> can anyone help me with the problem i am having with created directory permissions
[13:29] <moDumassest> hey all, so i upgraded and for some reason my mp3s sound horrible
[13:29] <iKernel> Scrounch no away messages in #ubuntu please
[13:29] <newcomer008> crashanddie: ok, but thx anyways :) have a nice day
[13:29] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: how to open that?
[13:29] <rafelbev> what is the official way to upgrade ubuntu-server from beta to release ?
[13:29] <ifireball> bXi: yeah, there is probably some JS error somewhere
[13:29] <crashanddie> newcomer008, it shouldn't crash though, file a bug report will all the info you can
[13:29] <iKernel> moDumassest are you running esound ?
[13:29] <rafelbev> update-manager is geared towards desktops
[13:29] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: gconf-editor
[13:29] <crashanddie> newcomer008, the driver shouldn't freeze the whole system because it can't connect
[13:29] <amerio> guys wireless working here , with ndiswrapper , but cannot detect my network , any idea?
[13:29] <ifireball> bXi: nothing in the JS console?
[13:29] <DracoZA> crashanddie, just want to modify my screen res as it shows max 1024 and I see xorg.conf has changed, tried to run nvidia-settings and thats gone :)
[13:29] <bXi> ifireball: that might be but why only in the ubuntu firefox
[13:29] <jrib> !final > rafelbev (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:29] <newcomer008> crashanddie: kk, ill do so
[13:29] <moDumassest> iKernel, ive never heard of that,
[13:29] <grimsqueaker13> when i connect to a vnc server my keyboard input is completely garbled - does anyone know what i can do to fix this? i have check the -fp setting i think it is correct
[13:29] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: ok
[13:29] <moDumassest> leme look it up
[13:29] <roocraig> my update manager freezes also
[13:29] <moDumassest> im playing music in exaile
[13:29] <Myrtti> rafelbev: sudo aptitude install update-manager-core
[13:29] <iKernel> amerio get airecrack-ng, it includes a tool that scans for available access points
[13:30] <Myrtti> rafelbev: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:30] <garu> anyone having problem with restricted drivers?
[13:30] <iKernel> amerio I forget which one though
[13:30] <iKernel> garu, yes, lots of people are :P
[13:30] <IntangibleLiquid> hi, I cannot get my wireless network to work. Can anyone help?
[13:30] <gilster32> ikernel:thanks. reading it now
[13:30] <rafelbev> Myrtti: let me check, brb
[13:30] <obnibolongo> amerio, me here but not here; done bathing, lunch now :)
[13:30] <ifireball> bXi: probably some backported anti-phishing feature or something
[13:30] <gilster32> ikernel:i think i have seen this before...udf format from cli. will give it a go
[13:30] <jrib> Myrtti: he's just updating from beta though so dist-upgrade should be enough right?
[13:30] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: hold alt, hit F2, type gconf-editor
[13:30] <amerio> iKernel whats the package name exactly?
[13:30] <roocraig> Can anyone help me with some newbie issues I am having? :)
[13:31] <garu> iKernel why is that, it just wont give me a working desktop, if I enable it?
[13:31] <Myrtti> jrib: *shrug*
[13:31] <crashanddie> DracoZA, yeah, it's been replaced, check the changelog to find what to use now
[13:31] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i got it and it has opened a new window like reg-edit in windows
[13:31] <rafelbev> Myrtti: current dist not found in meta-release file
[13:31] <Myrtti> jrib: I don't do betas :-P
[13:31] <|Dede|> How do I release my mouse, when I press Alt+ENter to get out of a full screen
[13:31] <jeanre> hi all
[13:31] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: should be somewhere around /desktop/gnome/interface
[13:31] <jeanre> does anyone here have rez-looks packages?
[13:31] <garu> iKernel because it says that its in use, but not enabled...which is weird when never gave me any problem in any of the past releases!
[13:31] <Myrtti> rafelbev: then the updates haven't probably yet reached your mirror
[13:31] <rafelbev> am using UK
[13:32] <erik__> ah
[13:32] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: Most of the gconf keys have descriptions which will tell you what the options do.
[13:32] <Myrtti> rafelbev: if you get a message saying "nothing to update" lalala
[13:32] <ifireball> bXi: since they stick to a certain FF version they backport security fixes from newer versions, this may break over-complex stuff like JS toolkits... but this is all speculation, you need to get to the JS error message somehow
[13:32] <NeT_DeMoN> i have wireless card problems, in my restricted device manager it says its in use but theres no wireless option in my connections tab :S can anyone help?
[13:32] <Myrtti> rafelbev: funky
[13:32] <|Dede|> How do I release my mouse, when I press Alt+ENter to get out of a full screen
[13:32] <erik__> so is anyone having a problem with administrative privs?
[13:32] <mademelaugh> |Dede|, right ctrl +f ? god knows
[13:32] <nickthorley> hi all - can anyone help me with my wireless - in the previous version of ubuntu i used i used the restricted driver which was recommended during install but in the new version its not there - why would they remove it
[13:32] <N1NCHN41L5> is there another ubuntu channel moves a little slower
[13:32] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i m trying
[13:32] <erik__> "unlock" button gives an unknown error...
[13:32] <ToM-X> iKernel: Right, I have compiled and installed.
[13:33] <intrinsyx> I have a laptop, and I just did a full wipe and reinstall of hardy from scratch. I used to have a little *tray* icon to set my CPU speed, but I can't remember the package name to reinstall it. (No, it's not the one in gnome-applets, called cpufreq-selector)  Would anyone happen to know?
[13:33] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN same problem here =)
[13:33] <zrex> Anyone know a good DASHBOARD for UBUNTU?  Like Apple's dashboard?
[13:33] <rafelbev> Myrtti: the mirror is updated
[13:33] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: it seems to be everywhere, what driver do you have?
[13:33] <LinuxNoob04> hi rock
[13:33] <rocknrol> Hi linuxnoob04
[13:33] <LinuxNoob04> cool
[13:33] <rocknrol> hehe
[13:33] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN atheros
[13:34] <LinuxNoob04> is ja geil
[13:34] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: LOL same!
[13:34] <rocknrol> ja nnormal
[13:34] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN atheros AR242
[13:34] <iKernel> brb guys, especially ToM-X
[13:34] <bXi> ifireball: that would make sense
[13:34] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: i dont know exactly what mine is, it a toshiba laptop
[13:35] <roocraig> Help-my screensaver preferences window freezes when I launch it-any suggestions?
[13:35] <rafelbev> Myrtti: if the mirror is updated then something is wrong
[13:35] <Myrtti> rafelbev: prolly yes
[13:35] <amerio> Net_DeMoN type lspci , you can know the model under thernet controller
[13:35] <rafelbev> what should me sources.list look like ?
[13:35] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: dont i need to type 'sudo lspci' for that info?
[13:35] <Fritzel> question, would I have any side effects (except for loosing about 500mb of memory) for installing a 32 bit OS on a system with 4gb of ram?
[13:35] <intrinsyx> Eh, I'll come back in a couple days and ask again when everything with hardy's settled down.
[13:35] <rafelbev> Myrtti: what should my sources.list look like ?
[13:35] <scuderia> hi, im trying to update from ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 but it crashes when starts to download the upgrade tool (1 of 2), any alternative please?
[13:36] <intrinsyx> tar up your homedir and do a clean install
[13:36] <intrinsyx> or pull down the hardy iso and stick it in, it should offer to upgrade for you.
[13:36] <amerio> NeT_DeMoN try "lshw -C network"
[13:37] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: i m able to reduce the size of the icons but i m not able to reduce the spacing.
[13:37] <chronographer> Hi. I have my root partition as reiserfx, every time I boot I get a fsck error. it comes down to: fsck died with exit status 9. i can crtl d and ubuntu starts up fine, how can I get rid of this error?
[13:37] <moDumassest> garu have you enabled restricted drivers, or selected them for install from symantic?
[13:37] <IsotropicSpin> Hey: I have an AMD 64bit Dual Core running heron.  I can't play Mp4 and .swf (ie Youtube) hasn't got full functionality. Yes I have GNome codecs installed according to applications manager
[13:37] <indian_munnda> intrinsyx: actually i m not getting that option
[13:38] <intrinsyx> indian_munnda: it's in there somewhere, but I dunno where offhand.
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, do you have the non-free flash plugins
[13:38] <chronographer> isotropic: have you got medibuntu repository enabled?
[13:38] <roocraig> my update manager goes dark-any help?
[13:38] <chronographer> do a google search for medibuntu and add it
[13:38] <garu> moDumassest I've selected and downloaded them from the restricted drivers manager.and it says that its in use.
[13:38] <IsotropicSpin> arvind_khadri: i have the adobe flash plugins on in firefox
[13:38] <N1NCHN41L5> use ubuntu-restricted-extras gives u all plugins needed
[13:38] <amerio> roocraig its normal , that means its loading , just give it a lil time
[13:38] <scuderia> after a while of waiting it says  "failed to extract"  (in the terminal it outputs "extracting '/tmp/tmpGtUEXs/hardy.tar.gz'") any idea?
[13:39] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio:  Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) is mine
[13:39] <IsotropicSpin> chronographer: i don't know, how would i check that?
[13:39]  * intrinsyx wonders how much bandwidth us.archive.ubuntu.org has chewed through in the last 48 hours....
[13:39] <amerio> Net_Demon same here
[13:39] <emorris> ﻿roocraig: mine did that, but I had to kill it and restart it
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, which file formats cant you play
[13:39] <v0lksman> roocraig:  it's likely cause the mirrors are all busy....did you try finding a different mirror?
[13:39] <roocraig> my screensaver preferences won't load-any help for that issue too?
[13:39] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: wow, alot of problems with Atheros
[13:39] <chronographer> its not added as deafult, you need to add it as a repository, google search 'medibuntu hardy'
[13:39] <moDumassest> garu have you gone to system>administration>appearance and selected anything other than "none"
[13:39] <N1NCHN41L5> anyone know how to DUAL BOOT MULTILE LINUX operating systems - without the grub screwing up???
[13:39] <amerio> Net_Demon at least I made a step forward , now wireless enabled with ndiswrapper but cannot detect my network
[13:39] <intrinsyx> Hardy switched over to ath5k from madwifi.
[13:40] <moDumassest> arghh, its sounds like im listening to scratched cds
[13:40] <intrinsyx> ath5k does not support all the devices madwifi did.
[13:40] <chronographer> I am able to play mp3's and I didn't install anything fancy, apart from amybe mpd
[13:40] <garu> moDumassest but when I enable it,it asks to restart the system, and then it wont give me a desktop.after the loading screen.
[13:40] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: yeah, last i heard ndiswrapper would work
[13:40] <chronographer> *maybe
[13:40] <ToM-X> Atheros is a complete fail for me -_- I hate using Ndiswrapper, doesn't work after reboot.
[13:40] <NeT_DeMoN> but i dont know how to use it :P
[13:40] <roocraig> how do I find a different mirror with update manager?
[13:41] <moDumassest> garu, ok that blows,
[13:41] <intrinsyx> ToM-X: there's a madwifi howto for hardy on the forums.
[13:41] <amerio> Net_Demon yeah its working but cannot detect any network grrrrr
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, which files??
[13:41] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: wow
[13:41] <amerio> ToM-X it doesnt work because its not loaded into modprobe
[13:41] <garu> moDumassest that's weirdest thing. because I got the effects enabled, and they are working, but very slowly!
[13:41] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: how do you use ndiswrapper?
[13:41] <roocraig> Can someone help me with screensaver preferences issue please?
[13:41] <N1NCHN41L5> ?
[13:41] <v0lksman> roocraig:  launch synaptic first...go to settings...then repositories....then use the drop down to "Download From"....hit "Other" and ask it to select the best mirror....
[13:41] <IsotropicSpin> arvind_khadri: so far i know Mp4 and SWF
[13:42] <lesjohn> my installer crashed during the setting up packages part with "about 2 minutes" left.  it hung while starting bluetooth. i did a force restart.  is there anything for me to do except a clean install?
[13:42] <emorris> ﻿roocraig: system>admin>software sources>download from>choose server
[13:42] <moDumassest> garu nvidia or ati?
[13:42] <ToM-X> Cheers instrinsyx:   amerio: It works, every other reboot you could say, very unreliable.
[13:42] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: i downloaded it but i dont know how to install it :S
[13:42] <amerio> Net_Demon hold on i'll get u the guide i followed
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> how do i make text bigger in chat so i can read it easier
[13:42] <intrinsyx> Latest Xorg is a PITA with monitor resolutions -- it will disable valid modes that used to work. Check your xorg.conf
[13:42] <v0lksman> roocraig:  then hit reload and close Synaptic...then run update manager again
[13:42] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: ok, thanks
[13:42] <scuderia> to update to 8.04 shall i download the alternative cd right?
[13:42] <mlw1> I can't for the life of me get my resolution to be saved between sessions, it always resets to 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200
[13:42] <GNUtoo> hello,is there a command in order to purge old kernels?
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> did u try doing a text only install?
[13:42] <garu> moDumassest I can't even open the screen resolution settings.which is weird
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> lesjohn
[13:43] <garu> moDumassest ATI
[13:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  remove the packages
[13:43] <intrinsyx> mlw1: Set your hsync and vsync in xorg.conf and then set modes "1920x1200"
[13:43] <lesjohn> no
[13:43] <lesjohn> how do i do that
[13:43] <moDumassest> garu. man i have never had an ati card so i cant help you, if i hear anything though il pass it on
[13:43] <amerio> net_demon : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[13:43] <moDumassest> !ati
[13:43] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, but i have to remove the kernels,its headers,its restricted modules etc...
[13:43] <lesjohn> N1NCHN41L5: is it too late for me to do text-only now?
[13:43] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: thanks
[13:43] <N1NCHN41L5> my ubuntu or xubuntu would ALWAYS hang
[13:43] <moDumassest> !sound
[13:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:44] <amerio> Tom-x how do you manage to use ur atheros without ndiswrapper?
[13:44] <erik__> i have problems getting the "unlock" button to work.. right now i can't change any system settings
[13:44] <halcyonCorsair> hey, can anyone tell me how ubuntu sets up partitioning when you use the guided setup?
[13:44] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yeah...just make sure you select the OLD packages and not the current....each will have a meta package that will remove the headers and stuff iirc...
[13:44] <N1NCHN41L5> so just go an download the ubuntu or whichever u want alt cd
[13:44] <erik__> and i have added my account to policykit and admin group
[13:44] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, ok thanks
[13:44] <garu> moDumassest ok...thanks alot
[13:44] <N1NCHN41L5> then install from ther - itll do a full disk install and u dont have to worry about data on there now
[13:44] <ToM-X> amerio: I don't lol, I use ethernet if ndiswrapper is not working..
[13:44] <v0lksman> erik__:  are you sure your user is part of the "admin" group?
[13:45] <emorris> ﻿halcyonCorsair: you can choose to use the whole disk, or cut some off your largest existing partition
[13:45] <kimx> hi
[13:45] <chazco> Hi... i normally install "gnome-bluetooth" and" gnome-vfs-obexftp" on a fresh install. Are these needed in 8.04?
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35437
[13:45] <erik__> v0lksman: i have made sure it's added to the group in /etc/group
[13:45] <erik__> v0lksman: should i check anywhere else?
[13:45] <halcyonCorsair> emorris: yes but if you use the whole disk, does it partition it and split some off for swap, or what?
[13:45] <amerio> ToM-X you know I never had a problem using atheros on gutsy without ndiswrapper , but after installing hardy , im using ndiswrapper for the 1st time , its working everytime I boot , but cannot detect any network
[13:45] <kimx> is there a tool in gnome (ubuntu 8.04) to manage the volumes/disks ??
[13:45] <iKernel> ToM-X, how's it going?
[13:45] <emorris> ﻿halcyonCorsair: i think so
[13:45] <garu> moDumassest the thing is, the effects are enabled, without the driver being enabled!i never had any problem like this before!
[13:45] <niki_> Hey
[13:46] <slytherin> chazco: none of them
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> kim_, gparted
[13:46] <IsotropicSpin> avrind_khadri: thx. will have a look
[13:46] <v0lksman> erik__: nope...as long as it was there that's a good start....if it wasn't and you just added it you will need to log out and back in for it to take effect...are you connecting to the machine remotely or are you on console?
[13:46] <iKernel> amerio, have you tried to modprobe ath_pci
[13:46] <kimx> I mean a tool to manage mountpoints
[13:46] <amerio> iKernel blacklisted
[13:46] <N1NCHN41L5> lesjohn - dont worry - even though its text only install - u get full gui system an all when its installed
[13:46] <erik__> v0lksman: this is a desktop computer. no remote connection
[13:46] <erik__> v0lksman: i added it and logged back in.. no change
[13:46] <chazco> Thanks slytherin
[13:46] <iKernel> amerio, that's strange why would it be blacklisted....
[13:46] <ToM-X> iKernel: Still searching :)
[13:46] <slytherin> kimx: what king od management do you want?
[13:46] <amerio> iKernel I did it lol
[13:47] <niki_> Question with GRUB.  I just ran "sudo grub" and had it reinstall itself.  I changed the boot order in the BIOS, now i'm in my linux distribution.  But I had to change from hd(1,0) to hd(0,0) which isn't right.  Can anyone explain to me why they are off?
[13:47] <iKernel> ToM-X, searching for what?
[13:47] <erik__> v0lksman: clicking the unlock button just freezes the window for a moment and gives me an windowsy "unknown error", heh
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, well remove the black list, ath_pci is needed
[13:47] <roocraig> login preferences trouble
[13:47] <v0lksman> erik__:  I remote to my desktop all the time and PolicyKit is picky about that...that's why I ask....
[13:47] <shane2_> does anyone know if the gnome desktop package is still broken for the server install?
[13:47] <Lainy> Yes, i got broadcom to work!!!
[13:47] <mattycoze> hey how do i downgrade the version of my bluez-utils?
[13:47] <kimx> slytherin: I don't understand your question
[13:47] <amerio> iKernel but im using atheros windows driver on ndiswrapper
[13:47] <N1NCHN41L5> dual booting linux OS"s ????????
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, well don't
[13:47] <Lainy> How do I downgrade my firefox so I can installplugins that will work?
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, you should be able to get ath_pci to work
[13:48] <slytherin> kimx: when you say mount point management, do you want to create them or what?
[13:48] <emorris> ﻿kimx: you can change the mountpoints in places>computer, right click on ur part.>volume>settings
[13:48] <ToM-X> iKernel: How come it's saying my WIFI is not in use on Hardware Driver? Is it because I have Ndiswrapper enabled?
[13:48] <nickthorley> can anyone tell me the version of the kernel used by 8.04 before any updates?
[13:48] <amerio> iKernel so no need for ndiswrapper?
[13:48] <v0lksman> erik__:  well that is about all the troubleshooting I know of to make policykit work...hahaha...you may want to try re-installing the packages in Synaptic as I've seen it help some people....but unforunately that's about all I can offer... :)
[13:48] <iKernel> amerio, no
[13:48] <erik__> v0lksman: ah ok.. bummer
[13:48] <slytherin> shane2_: was there any bug for that?
[13:48] <iKernel> ToM-X, I don't know, but I thought you were going to compile and install madwifi?
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> Lainy, get the .deb from somewhere and remove the present and install it
[13:48] <slytherin> shane2_: and how did you try to install gnome desktop? which package did you choose?
[13:48] <ToM-X> iKernel: I have.
[13:48] <shane2_> slytherin, hmm, I think, but I can't remember, ahh, seems someone did file one.
[13:48] <roocraig> bug for screensaver preferences?
[13:48] <amerio> iKernel ok but when ndiswrapper disabled , wireless doesnt work even if the athpci is enabled
[13:48] <erik__> i might do a fresh install after work
[13:48] <iKernel> ToM-X, oh, okay, try a modprobe ath_pci then
[13:48] <DJones> nickthorley: I think 2.6.24.16 (from memory on an upgrade to 8.04 I've just done)
[13:48] <Lainy> arvind_khadri: Thank you.
[13:49] <kimx> emorris: thanks
[13:49] <iKernel> amerio, you probably need madwifi-tools
[13:49] <shane2_> slytherin, apt-get install gnome; apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment; apt-get install gnome-desktop
[13:49] <FooAtari> hey folks.  just got a quick question.  Rather than a fresh install I chose the upgrade option and so far everything seems to have gone smoothly and the system seems to running well.  I take it my system is now the same as it would be with a clean install of 8?
[13:49] <shane2_> slytherin, none of them worked
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> Lainy, but why do you want it
[13:49] <nickthorley> djones: thanks - just trying to find out if my wireless problem may be fixed in a later kernel
[13:49] <emorris> ﻿emorris: you dont need to put the /media/ in though
[13:49] <amerio> iKernel 1st I installed madwifi , wireless worked but same problem as ndiswrapper , wireless working and no network detection
[13:49] <v0lksman> erik__:  I have Hardy on about 5 machines and it does work...sounds like you have a package issue of some sort...
[13:49] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: Close enough.
[13:49] <kimx> emorris: but I need to configure a volume to be mounted on startup
[13:49] <emorris> **kimx
[13:49] <mattycoze> Does anyone know how to downgrade bluez-utils to ver <3.0?
[13:49] <ToM-X> iKernel: No Message appears.
[13:50] <FooAtari> thanks intrinsyx so nothing im missing out on or anything?
[13:50] <roocraig> anybody help with a sound issue-headphone sound but no speaker sound?
[13:50] <iKernel> ToM-X, ok, now try wlanconfig ath0 what does that give you
[13:50] <erik__> where can i find log files?
[13:50] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: Pulseaudio is now the default, so you should probably install the pa packages if you wanna manage your sound properly
[13:50] <slytherin> mattycoze: why, is there any problem?
[13:50] <moDumassest> my problem, any help would be awesome http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/369514-glitching-sound-ubuntu-7-10-8-04-a.html
[13:50] <nickthorley> can anyone tell me if its possible to find out if the kernel from the media may have been patched and what was fixed
[13:50] <erik__> the "Unknown error" error message does not help me very much
[13:50] <emorris> ﻿kimx: i know you can put it in fstab, but i dont know of a tool to do it
[13:50] <ToM-X> iKernel: Should I disable Ndiswrapper??
[13:50] <iKernel> ToM-X, yes
[13:50] <kimx> emorris: there was a tool since hutsy
[13:50] <v0lksman> erik__:  Yeah policykit needs some polishing...I think it was one of the "rushed" packages for this release...
[13:51] <amerio> iKernel how to edit blacklist file and modprobe conf file?
[13:51] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: And make sure you got ubuntu-desktop, that will ensure all of the default hardy packages were installed
[13:51] <mattycoze> slytherin, nah i wanted to try something from a few years ago
[13:51] <ToM-X> iKernel: ath0      No such device
[13:51] <emorris> kimx:hmm
[13:51] <NeT_DeMoN> madwifi tools?
[13:51] <barbarella> kinx: have you tried gnome-volume-manager?
[13:51] <iKernel> ToM-X, grr, um, try wlanconfig wifi0
[13:51] <ere4si> !madwifi
[13:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:52] <ToM-X> iKernel: Same again lol
[13:52] <roocraig> any audio/sound gurus here?
[13:52] <Fome> Hi! I'm having some problems with the sound after installing Hardy. I think it has something to do with the new soundsystem and the fact that I have two sound cards installed..
[13:52] <N1NCHN41L5> Dual Booting Linux with another Linux - Any Help????????
[13:52] <Lainy> I can no longer mark a thread as solved?
[13:52] <iKernel> ToM-X, okay, you've disabled ndiswrapper right? try modprobe ath_pci again
[13:52] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[13:52] <intrinsyx> Fome: install the pa-devchooser and select the proper default sound card, or enable simultaneous output
[13:52] <emorris> ﻿Lainy: no they are yet to enable that feature
[13:52] <ToM-X> iKernel: Hold on I shall reboot.
[13:52] <iKernel> ToM-X, then try iwconfig
[13:52] <Lainy> emorris: Ok, thanks.
[13:53] <iKernel> ToM-X, yeah might not be bad idea
[13:53] <BrianB04> Morning all: I have an oddball issue with Ubuntu. This morning I went to play a Quicktime movie. It popped up, asked if I wanted to find the right codec, it found two and I installed the FFMPEG codecs. Now, whenever I go to open another quicktime movie, it again pops up the request to search for a codec because 'The codec to play this movie is not installed'. Anyway to stop that.
[13:53] <Fome> intrinsyx: there is no package with that name
[13:53] <intrinsyx> er... sec, lemme look it up
[13:53] <N1NCHN41L5> Dual Booting Linux with another Linux - Any Help????????
[13:53] <slytherin> mattycoze: you will find the packages from gutsy or or feisty, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:53] <ere4si> NINCHNAILS: I do that - the last linux installed is the grub that is used
[13:53] <moDumassest> arrhhhgg this is hurting my brain
[13:53] <artti> I downloaded Ubuntu .iso file. How i should write it on cd. Some how i can't make it right.
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> N1NCHN41L5, only if you shoot
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, omg, just throw the linux installation disk in and you can partition your existing linux partition
[13:54] <roocraig> how do i install a flash plugin-rpm package?
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> artti, use brasero
[13:54] <Khamael> my wireless network adapter on my laptop stopped working after I upgraded to hardy. what can I do?
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, and then just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:54] <intrinsyx> fome: sorry, it's "padevchooser"
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, and put in your other linux distribution
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, job done
[13:54] <slytherin> roocraig: don't use rpm package. there is flashplugin in ubuntu repositories
[13:54] <N1NCHN41L5> ere4si can i pm u????
[13:54] <N1NCHN41L5> i have 4 sep partitions - some of the puppy os require there OWN hd
[13:54] <erik__> hmm
[13:54] <nickthorley> anyone here had intel wireless 3945 problems and managed to fix them?
[13:54] <erik__> i have the sound stuttering problem as well
[13:55] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, well then bad luck
[13:55] <erik__> i tried selecting OSS in the system->prefs->sound dialogue
[13:55] <erik__> but no change
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, are you running esound?
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, no no no no NO
[13:55] <N1NCHN41L5> NO you way of just install and go DOESNT work - it chewed up ubuntu grub and its own grub wouldnt load
[13:55] <ere4si> NINCHN4IL5: k
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, use alsa, and ONLY alsa, everything else is crap
[13:55] <N1NCHN41L5> leaving comp UNBOOTABLE
[13:55] <intrinsyx> Fome: Fire up synaptic, search for pulseaudio and grab padevchooser, paman, paprefs and pavucontrol
[13:56] <iKernel> erik__, unless you're running a big music recording station, which you should probably use a mac anyway, in that case, you should probably run pulseaudio as well or something
[13:56] <hydrogen> N1NCHN41L5: caps are bad, mmmkay?
[13:56] <erik__> uh?
[13:56] <slytherin> roocraig: install package flashplugin-nonfree
[13:56] <erik__> i switched to all alsa now
[13:56] <v0lksman> ?
[13:56] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, then you should've told it to not touch ubuntu's grub
[13:56] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[13:56] <iKernel> erik__, good
[13:56] <kimx> there should be a disk manager? How can I start it?
[13:56] <mheath> erik__: um, yeah...what everyone else is saying is true. oss is very similar to ALSA, but inferior, and has been obsolete (due to ALSA) for about 6 years. Don't use that. :-)
[13:56] <erik__> do i need to restart anything to make vlc use alsa?
[13:56] <amerio> iKernel how to remove ndiswrapper from modprobe?
[13:57] <barbarella> kinx: have you tried gnome-volume-manager?
[13:57] <artti> When burning image, what speed i should use?
[13:57] <Fome> intrinsyx: they are installed... I'm not sure I understand how to continue...
[13:57] <mheath> erik__: Your system doesn't even really support oss anymore, anyway...all that would be doing is ALSA simulating the old oss.
[13:57] <iKernel> amerio, modprobe -r <module you want to boot up the ass and get out for just a moment while you do something else>
[13:57] <intrinsyx> N1NCHN41L5: then reinstall ubuntu's grub. fire up the livecd, open up terminal, run sudo grub, and from the grub prompt, find /boot/grub/stage1, it'll return the device it found it on, root <device>, setup <device>
[13:57] <slytherin> erik__: restart vlc perhaps
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> artti, use somewhere around 4x or so to be safe
[13:57] <dagon_> artti; as low as possible
[13:57] <erik__> yeah, i just read this: http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/369514-glitching-sound-ubuntu-7-10-8-04-a.html
[13:57] <sailaway85> When running video converter(s) system crashes when ...  3d graphics enabled ... then when surfing win firefox ,,, is this a memory leak .... could it be a flash plugin ......
[13:57] <erik__> describing the same problem
[13:57] <intrinsyx> Fome: run padevchooser, and you should see a little "sheild". Click it to set a default card for output.
[13:58] <slytherin> erik__: have you changed the option in vlc to use alsa?
[13:58] <iKernel> ToM-X, how's it going?
[13:58] <artti> Now it is 4th time when i try to write image on cd.
[13:58] <iKernel> ToM-X, did you run iwconfig?
[13:58] <dooglus> can someone please tell me how to log out of GNOME using the keyboard?
[13:58] <dagon_> artti; what brand on cd's?
[13:59] <slytherin> sailaway85: is that a single problem or multiple problems? Can you please rephrase your question?
[13:59] <iKernel> dooglus, ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:59] <arvind_khadri> sailaway85, that would needed to be looked in strace
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: I want to log out of GNOME, not kill X.  any idea?
[13:59] <artti> dragon_, Digidata CD-R
[13:59] <intrinsyx> erik__: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: I can click the little green man thing, but I can't see the dialog that pops up
[13:59] <slytherin> dooglus: Ctrl + Alt + Delete should bring logout/shutdown dialog
[13:59] <mattycoze> hey while i'm here, is there any way to get rid of that annoyign error beep
[13:59] <erik__> slytherin: no, that was the problem. thanks!
[13:59] <iKernel> dooglus, set a log out keyboard shortcut
[13:59] <dooglus> slytherin: yes, I'm sure it does, but I can't see it
[13:59] <Fome> intrinsyx: sorry, for being stupid, but there is no obvious place to set the default card. (after I click the thing there is a list of different options)
[13:59] <amerio> Net_Demon anything new?
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: how?
[13:59] <dagon_> artti; tip: use tab :) it's dagon_, burn on TDK or Fujifilm, works perfect
[13:59] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, ctrl+alt+del
[14:00] <erik__> slytherin: i thought it was grabbing the default one from gnome
[14:00] <iKernel> dooglus, on mine it is system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[14:00] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: when I do that, a dialog pops up.  what next?
[14:00] <intrinsyx> Fome: Look in your tray for an icon that looks like a plug
[14:00] <roocraig> how do I get synaptic to download files--doesn't want to work for me
[14:00] <sailaway85> slytherin one problem crahes when video converting.... 3d enabled and surfing with firefox .....
[14:00] <Fome> intrinsyx: yes, I clicked that
[14:00] <erik__> so, now it's only the administrative problem i need to solve
[14:00] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, use the log out thats it :)
[14:00] <Koheleth> I installed the 32bit because I did not like the 64bit, now I have them both!  How do I get rid of the 64bit installation?
[14:00] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I can't see it. can I use the keyboard to navigate that dialog?
[14:00] <Fome> intrinsyx: but then I don't know how to continue
[14:00] <mattycoze> oh thnk christ i fixed that
[14:00] <intrinsyx> Fome: select Volume Control, Output devices tab, look for a little sheild
[14:01] <slytherin> sailaway85: for video converting you will have to log a bug against the package you are using. But I haven't seen the one where FF crashes when 3d is unabled
[14:01] <iKernel> dooglus, you'll need a mouse in order to set the keyboard short cut, btw
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, try using tab in that box not sure whether it'll work or not
[14:01] <intrinsyx> Right click, "Default"
[14:01] <dooglus> iKernel: I have a mouse
[14:01] <artti> dagon_, then i have to buy those. i hoped that i can get try new Ubuntu.
[14:01] <amerio> !madwifi
[14:01] <nickthorley> whats the link for the ubuntu updates ftp area
[14:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:01] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[14:01] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I have tried, and also the arrow keys.  but I can't see the dialog, so I can't tell what those keys are doing
[14:01] <iKernel> dooglus, then use it and set a keyboard short cut
[14:01] <slytherin> dooglus: Can you please explain what do you mean by 'I can't see it'?
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, what exactly is your problem
[14:01] <iKernel> ToM-X, tell me have you run iwconfig yet?????????????????????
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> slytherin, am on it
[14:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Hello, can someone tell me how to boot without starting X just once? I need to do this in order to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers.
[14:02] <intrinsyx> Fome: or if you want output from both cards, click the plug, configure local sound server, simultaneous output tab, checkmark the box.
[14:02] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: no but im giving up
[14:02] <slytherin> dooglus: you can simple use Alt + L to activate the logout button
[14:02] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I want to log out.  the dialog that appears when I try to log out is in the middle of the screen.  the middle of the screen is all dead pixels, so I can't see it, and I can't move it elsewhere.  I think I need to use the keyboard
[14:02] <NeT_DeMoN> i will just stick to hardwire or vista :(
[14:02] <moDumassest> !audio
[14:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:02] <Fome> intrinsyx: didn't seem to work...
[14:02] <ere4si> cgentry72: flash is cp intensive - sure it isn't h/ware related?
[14:02] <v0lksman> artti:  it will work on any type of CD...no brand specific
[14:02] <ere4si> *cpu
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, ok use alt+l
[14:03] <cgentry72> ere4si, it's worked before until today so maybe i installed a plugin or something
[14:03] <dagon_> artti; are you using 7.10 now? then it's just an upgrade
[14:03] <nickthorley> net_demon: what card you got
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> Can anyone tell me where I can get DVD for Hardy ?
[14:03] <ere4si> cgentry72: did you update today?
[14:03] <cgentry72> ere4si, no
[14:03] <arvind_khadri> Quiz_Master, google it
[14:03] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: atheros
[14:04] <Fome> intrinsyx: do I have to restart or something+
[14:04] <Quiz_Master> arvind_khadri: Nahi mil rahi bhai... Cant Find It
[14:04] <IsotropicSpin> All I want to do i to be able to play MP4. and i have installed Medibuntu and it is still not working
[14:04] <IsotropicSpin> any ideas?
[14:04] <albech> anyone else having issues burning the image?
[14:04] <arvind_khadri> Quiz_Master, :) it'll come soon try ebay
[14:04] <slytherin> Quiz_Master: this mighte be the place, not sure - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[14:04] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:04] <yao_ziyua1> what is the best dictionary program for linux? except stardict
[14:04] <sailaway85> slytherin: when using DeVeDe or tovin or vso(wine) vso(vbox).... as soon as I go into firefox system resets ......no log
[14:04] <artti> dagon_, i would like to make new install. But when writing on cd doesn't work then i make upgrade.
[14:04] <v0lksman> IsotropicSpin:  did you try VLC or mplayer?
[14:04] <slytherin> albech: what kind of issue?
[14:05] <IsotropicSpin> v0lksman: i did, but that was before medibuntu install
[14:05] <IsotropicSpin> should i try again?
[14:05] <cgentry72> ere4si, the videos start for about 3 seconds and then just stop.  they continue to download but won't play past 3 seconds
[14:05] <slytherin> sailaway85: that is weird, any chance it is a problem with RAM
[14:05] <mattk> firefox and flash crash when i browse to youtube.... is this a known problem?
[14:05] <cousin_luigi> is j2re1.4 gone for good from hardy?
[14:05] <artti> dagon_, currently i use Ubuntu for 32-bit system but i have 64-bit system.
[14:05] <albech> slytherin: i have tried several burning software and they seems to burn just fine, but its like the disk isnt finalized so it cannot be read
[14:05] <v0lksman> IsotropicSpin:  naw if VLC or mplayer didn't play it then I'd say there may be something wrong with the file...can you test a different file?
[14:05] <artti> mattk, i have same problem.
[14:05] <jerzyk86> is somthing like deamon tools but for linux ???
[14:05] <cgentry72> mattk, it is and i'm having sort of the same issue except mine just won't play
[14:05] <artti> mattk, i know why is that.
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> sailaway85, do a ram test
[14:05] <cousin_luigi> jerzyk86: mount -o loop
[14:05] <dagon_> artti; okey I see :) try burning as slow as possible, like 2x or 4x
[14:06] <mattk> artti: cool, ok so we can log a bug?
[14:06] <v0lksman> dagon_:  why?
[14:06] <artti> I always have done that way.
[14:06] <slytherin> albech: are you trying to burn any ubuntu image? Are you sure that image itself is not corrupt?
[14:06] <IsotropicSpin> v0lksman: yeah i will check it out now
[14:06] <artti> mattk, i know that flash don't work on 64-bit system.
[14:06] <cgentry72> mattk, no, it's always been that way and i've fixed it before but can't now
[14:06] <ere4si> cgentry72: I would think that might be a loose heatsink or fan not working - the software is there to run the vid
[14:06] <sailaway85> slytherin: did ram check ... ok .... going to remove macrovision plugin in firefox....  and try it....
[14:06] <albech> slytherin: yes, the image can be loaded with isomount etc. and its the latest ubuntu image
[14:06] <mysling> ive got 64bit, and flash works fine.
[14:06] <arvind_khadri> artti, flash works on a 64 bit one
[14:07] <nickthorley> net_demon: i tried to install last night but it wouldnt pick up my card either - it worked fine in 7.10
[14:07] <cgentry72> ere4si, that's kind of strange cause it's worked yesterday
[14:07] <dagon_> v0lksman; why what?
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> artti, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:07] <slytherin> albech: still it would be good to verify the checksum of image.
[14:07] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: what driver you have?
[14:07] <cgentry72> mysling, i've got 64bit also and it worked fine yesterday
[14:07] <mattk> artti i'm not running 64 bit.... I've got the same deal as cgentry72 plays for a couple of seconds and then you lose the lot... also there is no sound at all
[14:07] <artti> arvind_khadri, done that several times and it is said that it won't work on 64-bit system.
[14:07] <nickthorley> net_demon: not sure - my card is intel one and used a restricted driver before
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> artti, its works for me
[14:08] <fdr> hi! what's the best way to edit partitions with a GUI? gparted?
[14:08] <bhsx> jerzyk86: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[14:08] <mysling> artti: tried 8.04?
[14:08] <v0lksman> dagon_:  why are you telling artti to use specific brands and slow down his burn?
[14:08] <ere4si> cgentry72: My only thought ...
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; speaking out of experience
[14:08] <bhsx> or just use the mount command for loopback
[14:08] <slytherin> fdr: yes
[14:08] <artti> mysling, burning 8.04 image on disk
[14:08] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: atheros is worse, trust me ;)
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; -out of + from
[14:08] <v0lksman> dagon_:  issues like that are completely drive specific...
[14:08] <N1NCHN41L5> arti - or just do sudo aptitue ubuntu-restricted-extras, gives u everything
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; not always
[14:08] <mysling> artti: im sure you will have no problems with it :D
[14:09] <sailaway85> slytherin: also have divx web plugin ... going to remove.... could it be a memory overlap or leak?
[14:09] <timo> hey all hardy rocks :)
[14:09] <slytherin> sailaway85: form where did you get the divx plugin?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> artti, hey ok i guess there was a bug for that,but that was in 7.10 maybe the tweak can work for you
[14:09] <nickthorley> net_demon: i think the wireless support is very bad in linux general - it always seems to be the problem area - I wouldnt mind but i would have thought intel chipset would work perfectly but it seems not
[14:09] <N1NCHN41L5> GPARTED works GREAT - just make sure what u are trying do do (drive) isnt mounted
[14:09] <erik__> any news on unlock button not working?
[14:09] <LainIwakura> Hello, I just changed my openssh config, but when  I try to restart it via "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" it says not such file or directory. How do I restart OpenSSH then? Thanks.
[14:09] <bhsx> jerzyk86: there's also a GUI for it called gnomeiso
[14:09] <v0lksman> dagon_:  uhm...ok...I build machines for a living...I use cheap generic CDs on usually generic drives and haven't had issues for years....
[14:09] <pallavi> Hi
[14:09] <artti> Again, it is just copied .iso file to disk.
[14:09] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work.  Any thoughts?
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, hi
[14:10] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: yeah, linux does suck with wireless
[14:10] <moDumassest> daft punk sounds really scratchy, i cant seem to fix this, has anyone had sound issues thus far?
[14:10] <jerzyk86> thx :)
[14:10] <pallavi> I am new to ubuntu
[14:10] <ToM-X1> Right, I'm back with my crappy WIFI problem :P
[14:10] <dagon_> v0lksman; that's good, really. But I've had bad experience with lowprice cd's, no matter what burner I've used
[14:10] <bazhang> moDumassest: what is that
[14:10] <bhsx> jerzyk86: actually, it's called gmountiso
[14:10] <albech> v0lksman: i have had experiences with disks too, where it helped to slow down the burn speed
[14:10] <pallavi> can u please tell me how to login as a root user
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, do you have a support question
[14:10] <moDumassest> music is really scratchy
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, why do you want to do that
[14:10] <cgentry72> i'm removing anything that has to do with firefox and then reinstalling flash
[14:10] <moDumassest> using alsa, have googled it no one knows
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> !root
[14:10] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:10] <bhsx> jerzyk86: 'sudo apt-get install gmountiso'
[14:10] <slytherin> !tell pallavi about sudo
[14:10] <N1NCHN41L5> pallavi SUDO
[14:10] <sailaway85> slytherin: Actually I'm not sure... I think it came from firefox?
[14:10] <IntangibleLiquid> if a wifi network appears in the nm-applet, does it mean that my wifi work? My wifi LED lights up during boot time then dims, is this a problem?
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> !sudo | pallavi
[14:11] <ubotu> pallavi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:11] <nickthorley> net_demon: i used to use fedora but when got a laptop it wouldnt work with wireless and thus tried ubuntu which worked first time so was really happy but then new version of ubuntu comes out and no support  - great
[14:11] <albech> v0lksman: cant say anything about disks since they are mostly produced on the same factories, just added different logos
[14:11] <pallavi> because when i am trying to copy folders it is saying operation not permitted
[14:11] <v0lksman> albech:  I'm not saying you WON'T have issues...but since we don't know what make/model artti has it seems silly to jump the gun and tell him to slow it down and buy new CDs
[14:11] <moDumassest> !alsa
[14:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:11] <N1NCHN41L5> sudo apt-get install program
[14:11] <ifireball> LainIwakura: are you sure OpenSSH is installed? /etc/init.d/ssh should be there
[14:11] <crashanddie> IntangibleLiquid, it usually means you're on the good way
[14:11] <erik__> !unlock
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <N1NCHN41L5> or sudo aptitude install program
[14:11] <ToM_x> Ah, iKernel has gone -_-
[14:11] <bhsx> IntangibleLiquid: yes, it should be working if there's a wireless network in nm-applet
[14:11] <cgentry72> no luck with that
[14:11] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: its always worked for my intels, just atheros is the first problem ive had
[14:11] <spiniker> hello
[14:11] <spiniker> room
[14:11] <pallavi> ya i can login as root in a terminal
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> pallavi you cant copy paste into root folder
[14:12] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, it didn't remove my linux-headers...
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, i meant in X
[14:12] <spiniker> i just upgraded to the new 8.04,but i cant seem to get my emerald themes to work..
[14:12] <LainIwakura> ifireball: I only need openssh-client, right?
[14:12] <spiniker> any ideas?
[14:12] <pallavi> i am not pasteing into root folder
[14:12] <brackettt> hello, upgraded ubuntu yesterday, now it wont make it past the login screen anything i can do?
[14:12] <v0lksman> dagon_ albech:  All I'm saying is the best way to know is to try burning at full speed on the disks you have...If that doesn't work then try slowing it down...if that fails then maybe look at new media...
[14:12] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work.  Any thoughts?
[14:12] <timo> I like you the way you tube works in totem :)
[14:12] <pallavi> i am copying from the root thats all
[14:12] <slytherin> sailaway85: Can you tell me what is the Filename for divx plugin? You can type about:plugins in the address location of firefox
[14:12] <albech> v0lksman: i totally agree with that
 <crashanddie>: thanks, I just cannot test it because the wifi is encrypted, but I did attempt to connect to a free wifi this afternoon without success. How can I activate the LED? My function key does not work for wifi
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, to where
[14:13] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  what package did you end up removing?
[14:13] <ifireball> LainIwakura: depends on what you are trying to do, /etc/init.d/ssh restarts the server...
[14:13] <T4NK3R> lol
[14:13] <Heroin> Ruben?
[14:13] <T4NK3R> ben er eindelijk:)
[14:13] <slytherin> pallavi: it depends on what you are trying to access. Not everything in root folder has read access to everyone
[14:13] <arthur> Hi
[14:13] <pallavi> ya
[14:13] <bhsx> slytherin: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[14:13] <T4NK3R> hi
[14:13] <albech> v0lksman: but slowing down the burn is not a bad suggestion, and it definitely wont cause more failures ;)
[14:13] <ari_stress> hi guys, just installed hardy. but i cannot install build-essential, has anyone experience the same?
[14:13] <artti> I hope that Ubuntu 8.04(32-bit) works fine on AMD64.
[14:13] <crashanddie> IntangibleLiquid, check your syslog to see if you have any changes when using the function key
[14:13] <pallavi> sorry i made a mistake
[14:13] <skyowner> hi
[14:13] <N1NCHN41L5> sudo aptitude install is easier
[14:13] <pallavi> what i am trying to say is
[14:13] <v0lksman> artti:  it does.... :)
[14:14] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Well, I added "ServerAliveInterval 120" to ssh_config, so I thought I needed to restart it so the changes will go into effect. But there is no ssh restart...
[14:14] <skyowner> i don't understand one thing, is UBUNTU 8.04 compatible with standart French Packages
[14:14] <skyowner> ?
[14:14] <arvind_khadri> ari_stress, put in the cd and install build-essential
[14:14] <titan_> I updated to hardy herron today but when it restarted it just gives me a load of text for an hour then hangs, i had to put the 7.10 live cd back in
[14:14] <v0lksman> albech:  not when you are eager to get going and you have to wait 45 minutes for a burn... :)
[14:14] <LainIwakura> ifireball: I am not running a ssh server on this computer, so I don't think I need  openssh-server
[14:14] <brackettt> im running ubuntu in safemode and it could run HAL what does that mean?
[14:14] <bhsx> slytherin: or you can add medibuntu to you apt sources and 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[14:14] <pallavi> I am not touching the root contents
[14:14] <erik__> anyone exccept for me having problems with policykit and "unlock" button in system prefs after upgrade?
[14:14] <slytherin> bhsx: why are you telling me this?
[14:14] <timo> ﻿ brackettt: hi
[14:14] <bhsx> you asked for the divx package name...
[14:14] <albech> v0lksman: ahh you talking about failed burns due to flying cdrom burners? ;)
[14:14] <timo> ﻿ brackettt: did you gust update
[14:14] <phixxor> hey, does anyone know for sure how the heron image is lisensed?
[14:14] <nickthorley> is there an address i can browse the ubuntu updates area - browse the files etc so that I can view a list - like browsing the ftp area for them for instance
[14:15] <arthur> What is actually the easiest way to use java (in firefox) with ubuntu 8.04 amd64?
[14:15] <slytherin> bhsx: No, I am trying to debug the problem another user is facing.
[14:15] <ifireball> LainIwakura: like the name implies, ServerAliveInterval is a server configuration directive, you should be placing it on the server...
[14:15] <v0lksman> erik__:  did you try re-installing policykit and policykit-gnome?
[14:15] <bhsx> ah
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> crashanddie: thanks! I'll do that
[14:15] <pallavi> only what i want to do is i want to copy the dir which contains c files
[14:15] <erik__> v0lksman: nope.. i'll try that now i guess
[14:15] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to download the source code of a DEB program package?
[14:15] <slytherin> pallavi: Which file are you trying to access?
[14:15] <v0lksman> albech:  zaclty...hahahah
[14:15] <pallavi> which is in home folder
[14:15] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Okay, thanks.
[14:15] <Voxxi> nickthorley : maybe packages.ubuntu.com is what you are looking for?
[14:15] <brackettt> timo yeah yesterday. actually restarted the comp today. and now i can only log in with safe more
[14:15] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, to whre??
[14:15] <slytherin> pallavi: copy to where?
[14:15] <pallavi> my own c files
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> also, I cannot find any option to disable join, quit messages. I'm getting too dizzy
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> using x-chat
[14:15] <LainIwakura> ifireball: But isn't ssh_config the config file for the client and sshd_config the one for the server? Thanks for your help.
[14:15] <artti> arthur, what you mean by using java?
[14:15] <ifireball> LainIwakura: no wait, my bad
[14:15] <pallavi> to a pendrive
[14:15] <sailaway85> slytherin: plugin from avi video
[14:15] <arthur> java applets
[14:16] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:16] <brackettt> mode*
[14:16] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Oh
[14:16] <arthur> @artti: java applets
[14:16] <timo> ﻿ brackettt: i had same issue , simple dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:16] <erik__> hmm, how do i reinstall packages?
[14:16] <artti> arthur, like installing?
[14:16] <slytherin> sailaway85: can you post any screenshot?
[14:16] <cgentry72> for those having issues with flash and firefox, i suggest removing all plugins for firefox and removing flash, then reinstall flash and reboot.  that worked for me
[14:16] <erik__> i have to remove them and install them? or is there a reinstall flag?
[14:16] <arthur> @ artti yeah but which package?
[14:16] <brackettt> timo type that into the terminal?
[14:16] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, ok type this cp /home/pallavi/*.c /path/to/where/it/shld/be/copied
[14:16] <artti> arthur, sun-java6-plugin i think
[14:16] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work, though the folder is owned by my user.  Any thoughts?
[14:17] <slytherin> pallavi: what is the file system on the drive? is it FAT or NTFS?
[14:17] <PrivateVoid> Hello folks
[14:17] <AngryElf> is it possible to change the key bindings in various GTK/gnome apps? -- like gnome-terminal for example
[14:17] <arthur> @ artti : I will try - thanks!
[14:17] <timo> yeh sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:17] <ifireball> LainIwakura: yes, its a client directive, essentially /etc/ssh_config is the system-wide client configuration file, changes to it will take place the next time you run the client (e.g. the next time you run an "ssh" command)
[14:17] <bhsx> arthur: search software packages for 'icedtea'
[14:17] <Sajuukkhar> hey guys, my hardy wont partition my harddrive correctly so I will do it manually, what do i need to do?
[14:17] <arthur> @ bhsx: Ok
[14:17] <erik__> timo, v0lksman: hey! it worked
[14:18] <bhsx> use the icedtea plugin
[14:18] <pallavi> ok i will try one sec
[14:18] <brackettt> temo so just follow the instructions
[14:18] <v0lksman> erik__:  nice!   :)
[14:18] <artti> Heh... you know last week i had Vista on my computer.
[14:18] <timo> ﻿erik__: what did
[14:18] <Al00> *sigh* -- did a network upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 yesterday. Now, if I press any key on my numeric keypad (microsoft wireless keybaord) -- I get booted out of my session.
[14:18] <ifireball> LainIwakura: however, I think its a better practive to make client-side changes in your own home directory e.g. in the ~/.ssh/config file
[14:18] <Al00> Anyone else having this issue?
[14:18] <LainIwakura> ifireball: So restarting ssh is only applicable if I'm running a server.. and the changes I made to ssh_config will take effect once I run a "ssh" command? Thanks.
[14:18] <arthur> @ bshx: icedtea-java7-plugin
[14:18] <erik__> reconfiguring policykit
[14:18] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:18] <erik__> oh wait a minute
[14:18] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:18] <erik__> i think i've discovered a bug
[14:18] <bhsx> arthur: there ya go...
[14:18] <bhsx> use that
[14:18] <modoc> Itaku: mysql -u user -ppass db_Name < yourfile.sql
[14:18] <afallenhope> There's a lot of bugs with ubuntu
[14:18] <afallenhope>  lol
[14:18] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Oh okay. Thanks.
[14:18] <dooglus> thanks whoever it was told me about alt-d to logout.
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: i'm running a laptop with an additional screen
[14:19] <nickthorley> is there any way I can try 8.04 with all updates to see if my wireless card will work without installing it first?
[14:19] <ToM_x> Where is this MadWIFI guide on ubuntu forum for hardy lol
[14:19] <slytherin> arthur: which java version do you wich to use, the plugin package depends on that
[14:19] <ifireball> LainIwakura: yes, since the client doesn't rung in the background there is nothing to restart, its not started to begin with...
[14:19] <timo> be right back
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, welcome
[14:19] <bhsx> nickthorley: yes, the livecd
[14:19] <brackettt> temo haha im getting alot of fails :)
[14:19] <Voxxi> nickthorley : use the live CD?
[14:19] <modoc> nickthorley: try the livecd
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: not using xinerama.. so when i run the admin app from my secondary display the unlock button doesn't work and give me the unexcpected error
[14:19] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Great, thanks.
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: but it works fine on the other screen
[14:19] <slytherin> dooglus: welcome
[14:19] <pawan> hi
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> pawan hi
[14:19] <sanozuke> does anyone knows were is the notepad in ubuntu
[14:19] <arthur> @slytherin I would like to use the latest one
[14:19] <nickthorley> i have the live cd which doesnt work but there may have been patches since which is what I am asking - can i try it with all patches?
[14:19] <v0lksman> erik__:  hahaha....file a bug on that for sure....
[14:19] <ha|0> hello
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: this is actually a bug, i guess the policykit or gnome app can't bind to the correct session or something
[14:20] <erik__> where do i file it?
[14:20] <sanozuke> does anyone knows were is the notepad in xubuntu
[14:20] <v0lksman> launchpad.net
[14:20] <slytherin> Itaku: it is not necessary that every .sql file will work with mysql
[14:20] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:20] <bhsx> i've been testing the beta for about 6 weeks now... and i'm very impressed with the fixes that have gone in in the last week or so
[14:20] <ibleed> are the ubuntu dvd's that i'm seeing on torrent sites official canonical releases ?
[14:20] <bhsx> feels very solid
[14:20] <slytherin> arthur: I suggest you install sun-java6-* packages.
[14:20] <bazhang> sanozuke: the windows program notepad?
[14:20] <ha|0> can anyone help me?
[14:20] <Itaku> slytherin: i got the file but i want to put it in
[14:20] <slytherin> arthur: That is the most complete java currently
[14:20] <sanozuke> just like it
[14:20] <afallenhope> Ubuntu + Wine doesnt' go well
[14:20] <GNUtoo> hello, i've been trying to install nvidia proprietary driver during several hours...and i don't suceed....i realy need help...i have an xorg.0.log error...
[14:20] <arthur> @ slytherin: actually I am installing "icedtea-java7-plugin"
[14:20] <gord_>  nickthorley : explain for us "doesnt work" a bit more we see if we can help u here
[14:21] <v0lksman> afallenhope:  wyssat?
[14:21] <bazhang> sanozuke: perhaps gedit--just like it is only in windows though
[14:21] <bhsx> slytherin: icedtea works great, let him install that one
[14:21] <ndy> hi, anybody with a thinkpad r61 c2d8100, nvida nvs 140) around? and/or any idea why kubuntu live-cd is booting but ubuntu is hanging after starting the live-cd (does not boot hangs on bootscreen where you can choose if you want to install or try)
[14:21] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  have you tried envyng?  its in the universal repos
[14:21] <sanozuke> thank you
[14:21] <CTankred> Hi guys, does the new screen resolution tool works for you? Doesn't detect any sec. monitors here
[14:21] <slytherin> arthur: icedtea packages lack some classes like sound. So may not work with every applet
[14:21] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, did that work??
[14:21] <slytherin> ﻿Itaku: it is not necessary it will work. if it was made for oracle you need oracle installation on your machine.
[14:21] <v0lksman> erik__:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:21] <arthur> @ slytherin: ok I will see... thank you!
[14:21] <bhsx> slytherin: icedtea sound works great over here
[14:22] <bazhang> ndy sounds like a bad burn or a corrupt iso
[14:22] <Heroin> Whats up with the Encrypt stuff in gnome?
[14:22] <sanozuke> thanks
[14:22] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, the problem is that at a kernel update it will break the module and the laptop won't have graphics ....and that is VERY problematic
[14:22] <nickthorley> gord_: well i cant get a wilress connection in 7.10 it came up asking if I would like to use a restricted driver which worked perfectly but in 8.04 this seems to have been removed for some strange reason - It may be available in a patched kernel or via other patches but I dont know this unless I install I guess
[14:22] <Itaku> uh ive seen this in my terminal for the past 5 mins. 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.31)]
[14:22] <f0rmat> can someone tell me how to set the system so every time i add a user by default they can only access ~
[14:22] <ndy> bazhang: burned the ubuntu cd two times .. will try another one :)
[14:22] <slytherin> bhsx: no, you are certainly using something other than icedtea. Check 'java -version'
[14:22] <bhsx> Itaku: it's because the servers are getting SLAMMED
[14:22] <sailaway85> slytherin: removed divx plugin ... running tovin now without system rebooting
[14:22] <bhsx> just let it run
[14:22] <Voxxi> nickthorley : What type of wireless card do you have? Belkin, D-Link etc
[14:22] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  with envy or just when you install manually?
[14:22] <slytherin> Heroin: what with that?
[14:23] <Itaku> well crap
[14:23] <Heroin> slytherin: the encryption option in gnome.. in the filemanager
[14:23] <Itaku> ill try to find another place to download phpmyadmin
[14:23] <pallavi> i tried it is copied
[14:23] <nickthorley> voxxi: i have an intel 3945 abg card
[14:23] <pallavi> but i am not able to view the contents in it
[14:23] <loder> can I ask are many people trying the lazy way of upgrading to Heron or are you all being sensible and backing up and starting fresh. i always used to do a fresh install as awindows user, but I'm told aptitude especially does avery good job?
[14:23] <gord_>  nickthorley : ah ok got u now, yep use the live CD to install a system, THEN solve the wireless probem, do u have a a wireD network connection on the machine?
[14:23] <slytherin> Heroin: ever heard of gnupg?
[14:23] <bazhang> nickthorley that card not working?
[14:23] <modoc> once again ubuntu has given my hard drives names I can't find.
[14:23] <modoc> How can I list the known drives on the machine?
[14:24] <len> after updating to 8.04 my gnome-rdp gives this error: Error during the connection to database, uninstalling and installing the package dit not help
[14:24] <arthur> @ loder yeah no need to starting fresh ... I have done both ways several times and had no problems
[14:24] <ifireball> modoc: sudo fdisk -l
[14:24] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, before the update i had envy and now i want to install it the ubuntu way so it doesn't break during the kernel updates
[14:24] <v0lksman> !uuid > modoc
[14:24] <bazhang> loder well not really lazy; just like to continue on--your way is fine too though
[14:24] <bhsx> i installed icedtea-gcjwebplugin, which installed openjdk --jre
[14:24] <immesys> !uuid > me
[14:24] <bhsx> openjdk-6-jre, that is
[14:24] <nickthorley> gord_: yes I do.  how can i install patches and test though when the patches may need a reboot?
[14:24] <bullium> modoc: sudo fdisk -l
[14:24] <nickthorley> bazhang: no it doesnt
[14:24] <bullium> ifireball: sorry
[14:24] <modoc> ifireball, bullium, v0lksman: thanks!
[14:24] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  ahh...I think Alberto fixed that with EnvyNG...
[14:25] <bazhang> nickthorley: what does ifconfig show
[14:25] <bullium> modoc: yep
[14:25] <jojomas> so, funny thing happened partition editor doesn't detect my partitions, but i can see them from nautilus. je, I can't get past the LiveCD
[14:25] <Voxxi> nickthorley : Apparently, according to the linux wireless list, its fully supported. What have you tried to get it working
[14:25] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:25] <nickthorley> bazhang: unfortunately cant tell you as not with the machine at the moment
[14:25] <slytherin> bhsx: yes, that is different from icedtea-java-7 packages. But even openjdk is not complete AFAIK,
[14:25] <sanozuke> whooo
[14:25] <loder> bazhang i am thinking of doing that actually - Gutsy does everytihng I need and I actually rely on it as my main system now so I loathe to mess with awinning formula
[14:25] <arstanj> hi all, is the ubuntu repos lagging? does anybody experiencing this?
[14:25] <slytherin> N1NCHN41L5: grub installation wil take care of it
[14:25] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  may want to check with him in the forums though....Envy has been flawless for me with ATI in the past and so far with NG and nVidia it's been ok...but no kernel updates yet... ;)
[14:25] <mattycoze> hey how do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:25] <nickthorley> voxxi: i havent tried anything - it was autodetected before and I cant see why the driver should have been removed from a later version of the os - seems like a backward step to me
[14:25] <pallavi> Hi
[14:26] <artenius> N1NCHN41L5: grub
[14:26] <immesys> arstanj: all ubuntu sites are lagging
[14:26] <afallenhope> anyone know how I can completely restore Ubuntu? I don't know the partitions.. I just did the desktop installation. I want to reinstall. I jacked up all my modules some how.
[14:26] <bazhang> nickthorley: I have the exact same card and it works very well once you get it going--when you have a chance perhpas you can troubleshhot it
[14:26] <gord_>  nickthorley : ah, i meant actually INTALL the system onto hard disk using the live CD, but do u just want to test it witout disturbing the hard disk? not easy at all that way....
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> same here
[14:26] <JPSmon> what would happen if I ran wubi with wine???
[14:26] <N1NCHN41L5> artenius - GRUB is my only problem
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> i want to know what partitions i require to have
[14:26] <slytherin> N1NCHN41L5: and please don't use all caps. It is considered as shouting.
[14:26] <arstanj> immeys: thanks, so its not only my network
[14:26] <mattycoze> How do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:26] <sanozuke> how to you guys and girls read so fast
[14:26] <IndyGunFreak> JPSmon: lol, i think it would create a comedy of errors
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> we dont
[14:26] <bazhang> loder well I would stick with gutsy until 804.1 if you know what I mean
[14:26] <Heroin> slytherin:  what is gnupg?
[14:26] <immesys> sanozuke: you don't you just look for your name and the name of the person you're talking to
[14:26] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, the problem is that i must finish the upgrade as soon as possible...so i don't know how long it'll take before having a response in the forums...
[14:27] <evand> JPSmon: ...it would work.
[14:27] <arstanj> immeys: I'm pretty much understand that ubuntu iso mirrors lags, but repos... esp they differ from country to country....
[14:27] <JPSmon> LOL, how?
[14:27] <bazhang> !tab | sanozuke
[14:27] <Voxxi> nickthorley: Maybe it was detected correctly, but not configured properly. Does it show up under the System > Admin > Network?
[14:27] <ubotu> sanozuke: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:27] <nickthorley> gord_: ok no prob - will just have to install and then if cant get it working revert back to 7.10
[14:27] <N1NCHN41L5> was only partly caps so they know its not M$ dual boot - text moves so fast
[14:27] <slytherin> Heroin: it is implementation of public-key cryptography
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> evand: you really think so?.. i seriously doubt it would
[14:27] <jojomas> well.. lets all do a fresh install of 7.10, and then upgrade to 8.04... this is feeling like windows man
[14:27] <bhsx> slytherin: that's interesting.. i hadn't realized that.... i'm actually uninstalling and installing sun-java6-plugin to see if i can tell a difference on any applets
[14:27] <mattycoze> How do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:27] <JPSmon> evand, would i dual boot my linux?
[14:27] <fysa> is there a Wubi channel?
[14:27] <bazhang> jojomas: far from it
[14:27] <pallavi> Hi
[14:27] <jojomas> jaja, just kidding
[14:27] <fysa> I boot into initramfs every time.
[14:27] <slytherin> pallavi: you may want to join #ubuntu-in. You have high chance of getting answers there
[14:28] <ifireball> mattycoze: try using it?
[14:28] <evand> JPSmon: IndyGunFreak I've seen it with my own eyes.  The lead developer works in Ubuntu, it's kind of a necessity.  But it's only useful for testing that it created the right things and put them in the right place.
[14:28] <pallavi> ya Thanks for assistance
[14:28] <sanozuke> you guys
[14:28] <gord_>  nickthorley : yep but not too hard to install then configure stuff once it's on your disk, but near-impossibkle to remaster a live-cd that way for specific card u see
[14:28] <dassouki> when i do an lsb_release -a i get 8.04 hardy !
[14:28] <nickthorley> bazhang: what did you have to do to get it going - I think we need to get out of having to "fix" it - if it auto worked before then why not in a later version - I love linux and want to get more people into it but if the way to get your card working is to play with kernel modules then i cant help but thinking we are going backwards not forwards
[14:28] <sanozuke> are a lot of time online
[14:28] <evand> fysa: no, just a forum and website.
[14:28] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I'm not sure how installing the drivers manually is going to help though...no matter what when you install a new kernel you need to create the modules for it...Envy does it for you while the "Ubuntu" way (which isn't cause Ubuntu Way means no proprietary software) you have to do it by hand....
[14:28] <halll0> can anyone help with a permissions problem I'm having?
[14:28] <N1NCHN41L5> yes /j #wubi - only 1 person in it now
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> evand: well, i'd have to see that to believe it
[14:28] <ibleed> how do i encrypt a partition that requires me to give a password when i want to access it (not on boot but manually) ?
[14:28] <bazhang> nickthorley: this is hardy right?
[14:28] <loder> IndyGunFreak it might even work though - that very last version of Wine is startlingly good - it even runs Dreamweaver with bit of tweaking now - that amazed me!
[14:28] <nickthorley> gord_: no prob - thanks for your help - will install it tonight
[14:28] <nickthorley> bazhang: yes hardy
[14:29] <sanozuke> how to i use tab to search for program
[14:29] <JPSmon> evand: So there wouldnt be a dual boot then?
[14:29] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I honestly think EnvyNG will fix your upgrade issue though...the app is more closely integrated for Hardy then it was in the past...he worked with Ubuntu devs to make a lot happen...
[14:29] <evand> IndyGunFreak: bzr branch lp:wubi wubi; cd wubi; make prerequisites; make; make test
[14:29] <evand> JPSmon: I'm not sure I understand your question.  Can you elaborate on what you want to accomplish?
[14:29] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, what i mean by ubuntu way is trough the restricted hardware gui which install the nvidia module package wich would be updated if the kernel is updated
[14:29] <neeto> How do I set the color depth in 8.04?
[14:29] <bazhang> nickthorley: they moved from the ipw3945 to the iwl3945 and the transition has been a bit rocky; but the new kernel level module means no restricted driver and much better performance
[14:30] <nullmind> neeto: you still have to use xorg.conf :-/
[14:30] <loder> Is there a search in this chan where i can look up things I don't know like what EnvyNG is?
[14:30] <slytherin> sanozuke: what do you mean?
[14:30] <ifireball> sanozuke: you start typing its name in the command line and then press tab, it should then either complete the name or give you completion options
[14:30] <Adlai> !envy | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> loder: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[14:30] <JPSmon> evand: eh not really.  its just a joke.    I feel like I would be dividing by zero somwhere
[14:30] <arstanj> dinesh: Hey
[14:30] <gord_>  nickthorley : historical note - the live-CD is a full "release" next full updates to live-cd's will be next major release, 8.10 u see, but a system installed on your hdd can be update daily/hourly, on demand u see
[14:30] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys is there any way to install the Ubuntu plugin back in to firefox 3.
[14:30] <nickthorley> bazhang: dont suppose you have any instructions on what you had to do to get it working do you?
[14:30] <Adlai> !envyng | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envyng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yeah I've never had any luck with that... :)
[14:30] <sanozuke> ok
[14:30] <gangsterlicious> whys ubuntu.com internet so slow
[14:30] <Adlai> hmm, alright
[14:30] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> loder: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[14:30] <slytherin> loder: simply type !searchterm
[14:30] <loder> cheers
[14:30] <jhoc2x> how to upgrade from gutsy to hardy?
[14:30] <evand> JPSmon: ah, indeed.
[14:30] <sanozuke> i don't use irc a lot
[14:31] <nullmind> How can I receive notifications whenever a command is executed?
[14:31] <indian_munnda> can any one tell me any software package to change my MAC id????
[14:31] <bhsx> gangsterlicious: because it's getting POUNDED?
[14:31] <sanozuke> but is channel is the best
[14:31] <slytherin> jhoc2x: check channel topic
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: so is envy considered safe now, for Hardy?
[14:31] <gangsterlicious> hmmm, ok
[14:31] <arthur> @ jhoc2x sudo apt-get update   and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:31] <loder> Oh I do remember, people with Nvidia drivers especially use it  yeah?
[14:31] <Adlai> nullmind: what sort of notifications?
[14:31] <bhsx> look at it this way... there are 1500 ppl IN HERE
[14:31] <nickthorley> gord_: yes i fully understand - is it possible that after installing and patching the card may be auto detected and work - the updates fixing it or is this highly unlikely?
[14:31] <shane2peru> does anyone know if a bug was filed for gnome-desktop install on the server edition?
[14:31] <bazhang> loder you can /msg ubotu info packagename or /msg ubotu keyword for lots of stuff
[14:31] <jhoc2x> arthur: thanks bro!
[14:31] <JPSmon> and then ran a wubi in the wubi's wine?
[14:31] <spiniker> hello room
[14:31] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys is there any way to install the Ubuntu plugin back in to firefox 3.
[14:31] <bhsx> think of what the server, trying to dish-out 650MB isos AND updates is goign through?
[14:31] <nullmind> Adlai: basically like how libnotify notifies you a file has moved, etc., i need to know when something is executed
[14:31] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: it is blessed ;] for hardy only though
[14:31] <shane2peru> Does anyone have a workaround for getting the gnome desktop installed on server edition?
[14:32] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, i know it's possible to install the card without envy because a guy(wich is away) succeeded to install it with the gui in ubuntu
[14:32] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: very interesting
[14:32] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: which plugin?
[14:32] <gord_> <indian_munnda: macchanger, or mac-changer  from my memory, some card will take it as ifconfig option too
[14:32] <spiniker> i just updated to the new hardy,but i cant seem to get my emerald themes to run
[14:32] <loder> bazhang thanks - in some ways my installs worked so well I didn't learn so much
[14:32] <nullmind> shane2peru: install ubuntu-desktop package?
[14:32] <MTecknology> If anybody still wants a copy, I have i386-desktop at ftp://arnescnp.com user: ftp pass: <anything>  I'm uploading amd64-desktop to the server now.... limit - 7 connections
[14:32] <Adlai> nullmind: you can replace the binary with a trojan that sends you some mail and then executes the program
[14:32] <loder> There's an irony there somewhere :)
[14:32] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get youtube to work in hardy
[14:32] <evand> IndyGunFreak: aiui, yes.  Or at least moreso than it was.
[14:32] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: the one that comes installed by default with firefox 3.
[14:32] <slytherin> shane2peru: you haven't stated the problem you faced, yet
[14:32] <Adlai> then drop that somewhere in your path
[14:32] <shane2peru> nullmind, I will give that a try
[14:32] <Adlai> before the real binary
[14:32] <ifireball> shane2peru: installing the ubuntu-desktop package doesn't work for you?
[14:32] <evand> ah, sorry, didn't notice that bazhang replied already.
[14:32] <sanozuke> Iam trying to use perl and things are going better
[14:32] <shane2peru> slytherin, yes, gnome-desktop-environment is brokedn
[14:32] <bazhang> nickthorley: I cant remember offhand but will help you go through it if you wish sometime--there are a couple of bugs that stop some people from using it atm that will be fixed in short order
[14:32] <shane2peru> ifireball, going to try that now
[14:32] <sanozuke> in xubuntu
[14:33] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: you need package ubufox
[14:33] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: it lets you choose to install flash or gnash, also helps install java
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: Yeah, i know, but I need a dynamic way to do this. Can I somehow filter bash?
[14:33] <bhsx> lilg111111: 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[14:33] <iluminatus> where is a german help channel for ubuntu ?
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: I guess I could replace bash and do my filtering there...
[14:33] <Adlai> nullmind: I'm not aware of how, if it's possible
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: this is because of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763283
[14:33] <loder> one more question - this inclusion of FF3 beta 5?
[14:33] <indian_munnda> gord_: i used it but its not working correct.When i changed my MAC id the internet stopped working and when i rebooted my PC, MAC was again changd to the older one.
[14:33] <slytherin> shane2peru: do you just want gnome-desktop?
[14:34] <nullmind> loder: Final Fantasy 3 wasn't released in United States
[14:34] <nickthorley> bazhang: what do you mean by term short order - they will be last to be fixed? - I will be trying to install tonight - approx 8 hours from now if you are around?
[14:34] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind -   ahh, sometimes the simple solutions escape me!  I tried gnome, gnome-desktop, gnome-desktop-environment
[14:34] <loder> Will aptitude upgrade it to the release as and when it's avaibable
[14:34] <ifireball> shane2peru: but really if you're gonna do that, install desktop ubuntu and be done with, you're not getting anything from using the server that way
[14:34] <grnmtn> does anyone know where to find documentation for hardy server?
[14:34] <GNUtoo> v0lksman-away, http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#F => i will use envy
[14:34] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: i have that package but how do I get it in to firefox
[14:34] <nullmind> shane2peru: you can also install kubuntu-desktop for the KDE dekstop
[14:34] <elektronik123> hello
[14:34] <slytherin> loder: yes
[14:34] <loder> nullmind I meant Firefox - I can't work out whether your joking there
[14:34] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can always use $man
[14:34] <gord_>   nickthorley : possible, more likely u need to google for, for example, {card name) ubuntu hardy and do somethin manually
[14:34] <lilg111111> bhsx, i have it already
[14:34] <nullmind> loder: im always joking :)
[14:35] <elektronik123> can i backup Pidgin`s conversation logs ?
[14:35] <bhsx> restart FF and go to youtube
[14:35] <bazhang> nickthorley: I will do my best to be around; will try to remember what exactly I did--not much really though ( acoup;e of tweaks iirc)
[14:35] <alteregoa> i need a strange help
[14:35] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind thanks guys, I'm a gnomer, and yes I like having my server too, computer handles both just fine, I like the server install, server hobby, desktop for work. :)
[14:35] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: I don't understand what you mean by 'get into firefox'
[14:35] <grnmtn> nullmind: I'm looking for install guides . . . so I'm not to the man stage yet
[14:35] <bazhang> alteregoa: go ahead and ask
[14:35] <albech> where can i find the md5sums on the ubuntu website?
[14:35] <bhsx> lilg111111: and it doesn't work?
[14:35] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: well I have it installed but firefox doesn't show it installed.
[14:35] <neeto> 24 bit color depth is not including the 8 bit alpha channel, right?
[14:35] <alteregoa> i connected two screens to the ubuntumachine
[14:35] <iluminatus> who i must configured xchat for using a bnc ??? problem ident ... i need help in german ^^
[14:35] <slytherin> elektronik123: manual backup? yes. Open terminal and check directory ~/.purple/logs
[14:35] <nullmind> grnmtn: Ubuntu has a good Wiki
[14:35] <alteregoa> but it doesn't work as it should
[14:35] <bazhang> !md5 | albech
[14:35] <ubotu> albech: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[14:35] <loder> nullmind I take it Final Fanatasy is agame? the software I'venever heard of is always game related :(
[14:35] <lilg111111> bhsx, nope just a black screen shows up with the replay button but no video plays
[14:35] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can also browse the packages online and download their docs
[14:35] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes mac-changer usuall opnly last during one boot, changin g mac confuses everything, so u mets ask for new IP by recycling the network, eg: disable it and reeneble it should work for dhcp
[14:36] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind I have xubuntu installed now, and it is ok, but I just like gnome too much, too used to gnome.  Thanks
[14:36] <bhsx> lilg111111: you restarted FF?
[14:36] <bazhang> alteregoa: you need to use my nick if you want an answer thanks
[14:36] <gord_> so u must#
[14:36] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: where did you check it?
[14:36] <alteregoa> it has only 640x480 resol. i cannot change the resolution to 1024x768 on the second screen
[14:36] <lilg111111> bhsx, yes
[14:36] <afallenhope> Does Ubuntu work well with SATA hard drives?
[14:36] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: the addons.
[14:36] <bazhang> afallenhope: sure
[14:36] <b33r> what's the md5sum of hardy amd64 desktop?
[14:36] <shane2peru> slytherin, I forgot the package name that is why I was trying the gnome-desktop etc.
[14:36] <alteregoa> yes with sado drives, it wors
[14:36] <nullmind> b33r: it's on the ubuntu release package
[14:36] <shane2peru> slytherin, thanks though.
[14:36] <bhsx> lilg111111: this SHOULDn't have anything to do with it... but try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[14:36] <arthur> @ afallenhope ... yeah SATA should be no problem
[14:36] <nickthorley> bazhang: thanks for your help
[14:37] <grnmtn> nullimind: I'm trying to set up separate partitions, so I guess 8.04 docs aren't necessary (I doubt that has changed) - but I can't find any decent documentaiton on manually partitioning ubuntu server
[14:37] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: Are you checking 'plugins' or 'extensions'?
[14:37] <loder> afallenhope I don't know what constitutes well but it certainly works on mine
[14:37] <gord_> indian_munnda: so use macchanger, then  go to network icon on top toolbar then disbale then reenable it
[14:37] <bazhang> not yet nickthorley ;]
[14:37] <indian_munnda> gord_: but i m running a DNS server with a public IP thats why i m looking for MAC changer.
[14:37] <nickthorley> gord_: you too - hope to be chatting later via wireless
[14:37] <joshua__> hey guys
[14:37] <bhsx> ok, enjoy everyone, this is too busy for me to be much help
[14:37] <nullmind> grnmtn: are you going to use the Live CD to install, it has GParted a GNOME-based partition editor that is very sexy
[14:37] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: both
[14:37] <joshua__> im a i have a quick question
[14:37] <joshua__> im a newb
[14:37] <joshua__> and i have hardy
[14:37] <nullmind> never ask to ask or talk about asking
[14:37] <lilg111111> bhsx, already have that to, should i uninstall em and reinstall them
[14:37] <RWB> could someone give me a link to the release info on Hardy?
[14:37] <bazhang> go ahead joshua__ easy on the enter key though
[14:37] <alteregoa> a mac changer, so you had a power pc mac, and now you try to change to intel?
[14:37] <immesys> joshua__: just ask
[14:38] <greentomate> when will archive.ubuntu be back up??? I can/t get any packages as of now and it is quite frustrating.
[14:38] <[T]-Rex> lol
[14:38] <joshua__> I am running dual boot with vista 64 and when i installed hardy i could read my ntfs data
[14:38] <jhoc2x> how are thing between hardy and gutsy??? i'd like to know before upgrading to hardy
[14:38] <loder> It is busy actually - the busiest I've ever seen any IRC channel in my life!
[14:38] <ere4si> joshua__: just ask your qustion - it gets busy here
[14:38] <nullmind> greentomate: go to Admin->Software sources and choose a local mirror
[14:38] <alteregoa> i have no glue with xorg.conf
[14:38] <bazhang> rwb www.fsckin.com has the best one (in Plain English)
[14:38] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: have you restarted firefox? Any chance you are using firefox2 instead of firefox3.
[14:38] <immesys> joshua__: thats a feature
[14:38] <nullmind> greentomate: im in Portland, OR and choose cat.pdx down the street :)
[14:38] <afallenhope> what about an Asus vid card?
[14:38] <LainIwakura> I cannot find the artwiz package in the hardy repositories. How do I find which respoistory to add so that I can apt-get xfonts-artwiz2?
[14:38] <joshua__> now it says cannot mount
[14:38] <RWB> thnx
[14:38] <slytherin> greentomate: use local mirror please
[14:38] <greentomate> nullmind: i'll give that a shot, thanks.
[14:38] <greentomate> yes yes ill try
[14:39] <grnmtn> nullmind: ubuntu server livecd doesn't appear to include gparted
[14:39] <vbabiy-laptop> no slytherin its firefox 3
[14:39] <bazhang> afallenhope: what chipset
[14:39] <immesys> joshua__: its probably because the ntfs journal is dirty. reboot into windows and shut down nicely
[14:39] <gord_> indian_munnda: aha, so ion that case u need to recycle the fixed IP, anyone help with a foolproff method in hardy? no box here on 8.04 to talk him thru.. :(
[14:39] <joshua__> I downloaded and installed a ntfs3g thing and i guess that i didnt need it for hardy, but since installing that i have no access
[14:39] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: perhaps a firefox restart is needed
[14:39] <arthur> @ slytherin: What else is to do for Firefox Java then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" ?
[14:39] <grnmtn> i'm sort of shocked that they would release 8.04 without update documentation at the same time
[14:39] <q4a> hi to all, I want to install ubuntu on laptop Samsung Q45 F000. I tried to do it with 7.10 and 8.04 - but i can't: it fades at attempt to start from a disk without installation. Whether it is possible to try to start ubuntu from USB flash drive and how? Or some one can already have the same problem?
[14:39] <nullmind> grnmtn: yes, the Ubuntu Desktop does include GParted
[14:39] <joshua__> i tried removing it in synaptic, however it didnt work
[14:39] <afallenhope> 965wh
[14:39] <vbabiy-laptop> sorry slytherin I didn't notice I had firefox open on a different desktop
[14:39] <indian_munnda> gord_: i m running gutsy
[14:40] <vbabiy-laptop> so it was not restarting
[14:40] <greentomate> another question: how do i make it so i dont have to type root password all the time. Isn't there a way to have it autofilled? i mean, i understand why it wants to prompt you, but why should i have to actually type a pw in as supposed to hitting "OK Proceed"
[14:40] <joshua__> removing it worked
[14:40] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can always use the parted application for command-line partitioning
[14:40] <pawan> hi
[14:40] <joshua__> but ntfs didnt
[14:40] <bazhang> grnmtn: they did you just need to look for it: www.distrowatch.com has the official one
[14:40] <slytherin> arthur: you also need sun-java6-plugin :-D
[14:40] <gord_> indian_munnda: u see the moment u change the MAC all your network switches get confused, they try to talk to the OLD mac, in their arp-caches i think
[14:40] <pawan> how to download videos from youtube
[14:40] <dwhsix> Hardy upgrade Q: I torrented the alternate CD, burned it, but when did the upgrade it seems to be downloading everything from the new and not using the CD...
[14:40] <joshua__> so i reinstalled it and it still doesnt work
[14:40] <arthur> @ slytherin : oh ^^
[14:40] <immesys> joshua__: have you tried manually mounting the drive?
[14:40] <frostburn> anyone having issues compiling vmware server on 64bit 8.04?
[14:40] <nullmind> joshua__: do you know how to open a terminal?
[14:40] <joshua__> not sure how
[14:40] <bhsx> ok i will say this for anyone having troubles with FROSTWIRE or LIMEWIRE....   over the course of the beta, and including the final release...  install the FrostWire .deb.  then 'gksudo gedit /usr/bin/FrostWire' and make the file '#!/bin/bash  -  cd /usr/lib/frostwire - java -jar FrostWire.jar' then 'sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/FrostWire' then just type (or create a shortcut) for 'FrostWire' and it will run just fine...
[14:40] <gord_> indian_munnda: k, gutsy then anyone?
[14:40] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | pawan
[14:40] <ubotu> pawan: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2008.01.24-1 (hardy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[14:40] <joshua__> terminal yes
[14:40] <joshua__> brb i have to help my daughter
[14:40] <dwhsix> (this /may/ be because I started an upgrade and said 'yes, do the updates now', but then cancelled that and started over...)
[14:40] <afallenhope>  
[14:40] <moDumass> booya. the solution to cracly sound is to turn the application your usings volume down to 70% but turn up your master, it removes the crackling static scratchy clicks
[14:40] <moDumass> awesometastic
[14:40] <loder> q4a that's the odd thing there are some systems - I have one - that won't do livecds - but will install from install cds fine
[14:40] <pawan> i am using gutsy
[14:41] <arthur> @ slytherin there is no sun-java6-plugin
[14:41] <grnmtn> bazhang: if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/, it is all 7.10 or older
[14:41] <loder> someone told me it can be because the system ram isn't fast enough
[14:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl pawan then in the terminal youtube-dl (the url of the vid you want here)
[14:41] <bhsx> arthur yes, there is
[14:41] <joshua__> ok im back
[14:41] <bazhang> grnmtn: it is one day since the release and we are all volunteers please be patient that is a huge amount to update
[14:41] <nullmind> greentomate: you want to change the sudo timeout
[14:41] <immesys> joshua__: ok do you know the /dev/ name of your drive?
[14:41] <gord_> indian_munnda: basically, i think u just do this, run macchanger, go up to network-manager icon on top toolbar, disable networking, then do it again to enable networking
[14:42] <bhsx> arthur: it's called 'sun-java6-plugin' i'm looking at it right now in Synaptic
[14:42] <joshua__> i get 73.1 gb media
[14:42] <indian_munnda> gord_: ok i m doing it now
[14:42] <joshua__> that is the name in properties
[14:42] <nullmind> greentomate: try this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179048
[14:42] <gord_> indian_munnda:all my boxes down right now u see i'm using <eek> windoze
[14:42] <arthur> @ bhsx do I have to use "software from 3rd part"
[14:42] <bazhang> loder more likely a video or acpi issue; you might try with the acpi=off boot parameter
[14:42] <bhsx> arthur: it installs sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin
[14:42] <LainIwakura> I could install a package with the Gutsy repositories. How do I install that package in Hardy?
[14:42] <immesys> joshua__: join #tmp32
[14:42] <Fritzel> where should I go to look for new themes and backgrounds?
[14:42] <grnmtn> bazhang: I understand the nature of community work, but for a distro that is trying succeed on a commerical level, it is unprofessional - they shouldn't have released the distro until the docs were ready
[14:42] <elektronik123> 8.04 isn`t good translate into polish
[14:42] <bhsx> you should have universe and multiverse checked by default
[14:43] <methods> can i upgrade to the new version from my desktop ?
[14:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I was thinking of checking the FAQ for the answer... :)
[14:43] <arthur> @ bshx I both got them installed
[14:43] <loder> bazhang actually that sounds right - at least on that system I always have to force acpi on and off in the modules
[14:43] <grnmtn> bazhang: anyway, I'm not trying to bash ubuntu, I love it, but I was a little suprised. And I greatly appreciate all the work that goes in to it
[14:43] <carl> anyone having any issues updating, in the update manager it gives me a button to update to 8.04 but when i click it i get the loading icon nothing happens??
[14:43] <q4a> loder, thx, i'll try
[14:43] <bazhang> grnmtn: you can file a bug or add the idea to brainstorm.ubuntu.com or help out yourself
[14:43] <loder> Yeah that must be it at least on mine
[14:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, ok and thanks a lot!!!
[14:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  make sure you use EnvyNG in hardy though....from the repos.. :)
[14:43] <nullmind> joshua__: join #tmp32 and we'll help you
[14:43] <bhsx> then just do 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[14:43] <bhsx> and you'll be good to go
[14:43] <nullmind> joshua__: it's very busy here
[14:43] <dagon_> carl; it took a little while for my update-manager to get started, just sit tight
[14:43] <Itaku> i found a bug on ubuntu 8.04
[14:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, envyng-gtk
[14:43] <joshua__> how do i do that
[14:43] <joshua__> i see that
[14:44] <bhsx> Itaku: this sin't where to report it
[14:44] <elektronik123> some texts isn`t translate into polish in 8.04
[14:44] <carl> ok i rebooted it ill go try again
[14:44] <bazhang> loder also try removiing the quiet so you can see the exact problem with the error messages
[14:44] <Itaku> where do i report it?
[14:44] <bhsx> do a bug report
[14:44] <immesys> joshua__: type /join #tmp32
[14:44] <carl> it was using zilch cpu and zilch network tho
[14:44] <bhsx> ubuntu.com
[14:44] <psych> whats the best choice instead totem ??
[14:44] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yep...and envyng-core if it isn't picked up as a dep
[14:44] <bazhang> !bug | itaku
[14:44] <ubotu> itaku: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:44] <nullmind> carl: the update servers are kinda slammed, try changing your repos to a different mirror
[14:44] <Scunizi> Itaku, launchpad
[14:44] <carl> yeh im using my isp
[14:44] <bullium> i ran the last hardy beta before rc and there was orange border on the left side of the gnome menus, it isn't there in the final release. how can i add that little border
[14:44] <bhsx> psych: vlc
[14:44] <carl> i downlaoding the alternate iso i might try updating that way
[14:44] <free> tes
[14:45] <gord_> indian_munnda: to get the enable/disable Right_Clic the network manager icon on toolbar
[14:45] <loder> bazhang I did solve it on mine - I used amp off or something I forget the exact line
[14:45] <LainIwakura> Is it okay to add Gutsy repositories in apt/sources.list? I'm using Hardy. Thanks.
[14:45] <psych> bhsx, ty i know this one..i dunno why totem work so badly
[14:45] <nullmind> psych: vlc
[14:45] <eimajentha1> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 server, and I just created a RAID) filesystem with mdadm called /dev/md0.  I'm generally pretty happy with, but I'm wondering if I need to make a startup script to assemble it everytime the machine boots, or if it will be persistent.
[14:45] <v0lksman> LainIwakura: why would you want to?
[14:45] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: no it is not
[14:45] <loder> I'm one these that only learns to get were he's going
[14:45] <bazhang> !slow | carl
[14:45] <ubotu> carl: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[14:45] <LainIwakura> v0lksman: I can't find a package I could install when I was in Gutsy.
[14:45] <bazhang> loder aye; that is tough part about linux ;]
[14:45] <jamiej__>  I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Reading package lists... Done
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Building dependency tree
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Reading state information... Done
[14:45] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: How do I find a package I could install with Gutsy's repositories then? Thanks.
[14:45] <FloodBot2> jamiej__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <jamiej__>  E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[14:45] <nullmind> GUYS: Changing mirrors really helps with slow APT speeds
[14:46] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: which package?
[14:46] <bazhang> !paste | jamiej__
[14:46] <ubotu> jamiej__: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: xfonts-artwiz2
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Do I need to uncomment some lines in sources.list?
[14:46]  * elektronik123 i go prepare to install 8.04 i beafraid
[14:46] <loder> bazhang but the other thing I found after is that the alternate CDs with the Debian Iinstaller always just work
[14:46] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: was it in the official gutsy repos?
[14:46] <bazhang> LainIwakura: apt-cache search relatedwordhere
[14:46] <Fritzel> where should I go to look for new themes and backgrounds?
[14:46] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Tried that, couldn't find it.
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: I'm not sure, but I could install it with aptitude.
[14:46] <bazhang> loder which is why so many people use it ;]
[14:46] <loder> But Iknow people trying for the first time don't want to be told to go for broke so I never say that
[14:47] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: there is xfonts-artwiz
[14:47] <ere4si> Fritzel: I go to gnome-look.org
[14:47] <bazhang> LainIwakura: you may need to enable more repos; please pastebin your sources.list
[14:47] <Fritzel> ere4si, alright thanky ou
[14:47] <ere4si> k
[14:47] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: hm yeah my sources.list may be incorrect
[14:47] <Jessid> hello. I installed ubuntu 8.04 and i want to change the name to the partitions shown in the desktop, I thought that using the properties dialog was going to be able, but it doesnt work...
[14:47] <arthur> How can I use sun-java6 with Firefox @ ubuntu amd64?
[14:47] <hardff> why is gstreamer busted?
[14:47] <bazhang> LainIwakura: what is the exact name of the package?
[14:47] <Cusoon959> I've blacklisted b43 and ssb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. b43 does not load any more, but ssb still does. How can I get ssb to stop loading?
[14:48] <dystopianray> arthur: install sun-java6-plugin
[14:48] <LainIwakura> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64366/
[14:48] <bazhang> hardff its not
[14:48] <loder> bazhang actually Debian installer is an amazing system - I've never seen it fail to install on anything
[14:48] <arthur> @ dystopianray I haven't got it
[14:48] <dystopianray> Cusoon959: why do you want to stop ssb from loading?
[14:48] <hardff> k
[14:48] <nappula> anyone using rtl8185 in 8.04? 'cause mine is broken
[14:48] <LainIwakura> bazhang: xfonts-artwiz2 (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-artwiz-fonts-in-ubuntu.html)
[14:48] <dystopianray> arthur: are you running gutsy?
[14:48] <daedra> is there a way to throttle your connection to simulate 56k?
[14:48] <daedra> i'm doing an assignment on usability on the web, and how websites have grown from text based to streaming media etc
[14:48] <Cusoon959> dystopianray, because b43 doesn't seem to work with my card. I want to run ndiswrapper...
[14:48] <loder> And for reasons I won't bore you with a lot of old comps come through my hands :)
[14:48] <Cusoon959> actually
[14:48] <hardff> its just causing errors in 80% of multimedia apps on hardy
[14:48] <Cusoon959> dystopianray
[14:48] <arthur> @ dystopianray 8.04
[14:48] <Cusoon959> I'll BRB, maybe b43 will work...
[14:49] <dystopianray> arthur: update your package list
[14:49] <dystopianray> Cusoon959: try it without disabling ssb, other drivers use ssb too
[14:49] <nappula> I can't get my wireless card down on 8.04.
[14:49] <pheriod> anyone got f-spot up and running? mine cant connect to dbus
[14:49] <bazhang> LainIwakura: tw hey? what about the canonical partner repos? could it be in there? packages.ubuntu.com could tell if you tell me the package name I can help you look
[14:49] <neeto> I know this is a silly question, but is there a way to make xfce use sound effects?
[14:49] <daedra> ok forget this...
[14:49] <nullmind> I have instructions for getting rid of b43 and using ndiswrapper on my blog here http://devangelist.blogspot.com/2008/03/ubuntu-804-beta-hardy.html
[14:49] <dublpaws> the repositories are slammed :(. is there one which is not serving upgrades?
[14:50] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz2
[14:50] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz2 does not exist in hardy
[14:50] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Thanks, the package name is: xfonts-artwiz2
[14:50] <Jessid> i cant remember the command to see the kernel version i have...
[14:50] <nullmind> Jessid: uname -r
[14:50] <bazhang> !find xfonts
[14:50] <ubotu> Found: ttf-arphic-bkai00mp, ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp, ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp, ttf-arphic-gkai00mp, xfonts-100dpi (and 77 others)
[14:50] <indian_munnda_> gord: i did that but didn't worked
[14:50] <indian_munnda_> gord_: i did that but didn't worked
[14:50] <loder> neeto I know this was asked in the xfce channels and the answer appears to be yes - though I've never wanted to do it
[14:50] <Jessid> ﻿nullmind: thanks a lot
[14:50] <nullmind> dublpaws: use a local mirror in Admin->software sources
[14:50] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz2 gutsy
[14:50] <loder> I usually race to turn them off
[14:50] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz2 does not exist in gutsy
[14:50] <nullmind> Why are my fonts in Firefox very tall?
[14:50] <dublpaws> ok nullmind
[14:51] <Fritzel> with the lag on the repos today I'm extremely glad I stayed up to date all week
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: I searched and I could not find it in the Hardy repositories. It does show up in the Gutsy repositories though.
[14:51] <nullmind> Fritzel: me too
[14:51] <cpu> hI , I have ubuntu 7.10 .. so I strated to upgrade it to 8.04 ... so in the upgrade process I got some errors.. and the update maneger poupd-up with a message to contenue or somehow from there becase the errors so Im trying to fix that... and started upgrading another time so whats the problem.. cuz its not working well
[14:51] <indian_munnda_> gord_: are you there??????
[14:51] <bazhang> LainIwakura: does not seem to be in gutsy or hardy perhpas getdeb.net?
[14:51] <gord_> indian_munnda: hmm, ok then, err yes, right, err, OK does ifconfig -a show the changed (new) mac under "physical address" ?
[14:51] <v0lksman> dublpaws: open Synaptic -> Settings -> Repositories -> Download from "Other" and select best...then reload your list...
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: It shows up in Gutsy as the package name "xfonts-artwiz"
[14:51] <dudus> hey does anyone have the ubuntu Ogio metro backpack? I think I'll get one. Can you tell me if it's really 100 bucks worth
[14:51] <bazhang> cpu we need the exact errors thanks
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Is there a way to install that Gutsy package in Hardy?
[14:52] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz
[14:52] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: that package was not in gutsy either
[14:52] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz does not exist in hardy
[14:52] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=artwiz&searchon=all&suite=gutsy&section=all
[14:52] <spiniker> anybody has issues with emerald on hardy?
[14:52] <Ultraputz> i upgraded from gutsy to hardy, on a machine with whole-disc encryption (LKM) and now the thing no longer recognizes the password to unlock the drive to boot.
[14:52] <nullmind> Lain: backports
[14:52] <Ultraputz> er LUKS
[14:52] <cpu> bazhang... the error occurd in the downloading packages process..
[14:52] <loder> LainIwakura don't you just add the lin in apt?
[14:52] <LainIwakura> loder: Which line?
[14:52] <LainIwakura> Let me try enabling backports.
[14:52] <Sajuukkhar> guys i really need help
[14:52] <bazhang> cpu could you try again from the terminal and report the exact errors please? thanks
[14:52] <spiniker> i cant seem to get it to to run..
[14:52] <^^malajenho^> hi everyone, I've installed hardy heron by first time. How can I configure my wireless device BROADCOM4318 to work fine ??
[14:52] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: oh sorry i thought you mentioned xfonts-artwiz2 earlier
[14:53] <bazhang> Sajuukkhar: ask away
[14:53] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Yeah sorry typo
[14:53] <hardff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/218750/  what do you do about it??
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> i tried doing the automatic guided install for partition
[14:53] <gord_> indian_munnda: I assume you have to spoof the MAC to work with a particular ISP yeah?
[14:53] <jburd> ^^malajenho^: Terrible card.
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> and it couldnt work
[14:53] <loder> LainIwakura it will be the repository for gutsy preceded by deb
[14:53]  * jburd doesn't like anything broadcom.
[14:53] <ayilma1> did hardy fix the suspend problem?
[14:53] <loder> just like alkl the other urls
[14:53] <LainIwakura> loder: How do I find the exact url for that?
[14:53] <loder> it's awhile since i did it
[14:53] <dystopianray> ayilma1: which suspend problem?
[14:53] <neeto> Is anyone else using one of the new mac keyboards?
[14:53] <Theo_> Why wont grub boot my windows or ubuntu? It says selected disk does not exist.
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> it just says cant partition it and takes me back to the partition table
[14:53] <jburd> ^^malajenho^: Use the Windows wireless drivers if you can't get the Linux builtins working
[14:53] <ayilma1> suspend in laptops..
[14:53] <kennethr> How do I know that I've got the latest Hardy installed?  I jumped on at a beta and I just want to verify that I've got the released bits installed.
[14:53] <LainIwakura> not in backports
[14:53] <loder> LainIwakura hang on I have to look everything up
[14:54] <Jessid> what does it mean OSE at the end of the name of VirtualBox????
[14:54] <LainIwakura> loder: Thanks.
[14:54] <bazhang> Theo_: which was intalled frist windows or ubuntu
[14:54] <dystopianray> ayilma1: you'll have to be much more specific
[14:54] <loder> it might be LainIwakura
[14:54] <dystopianray> Jessid: open source edition
[14:54] <Sajuukkhar> i been trying to fix my laptop a day and a half
[14:54] <neeto> Is anyone else using one of the new mac keyboards?
[14:54] <nullmind> ayilma1: what doesnt work w/ suspend?
[14:54] <bazhang> jessid open source edition iirc
[14:54] <dystopianray> Jessid: it lacks usb, rdp and iscsi support but is otherwise identical
[14:54] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: thanks a lot!!!
[14:54] <Theo_> windows and ubunto over 7.10 which was on a different hd in the computer
[14:54] <v0lksman> kennethr:  either run update manager or sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:54] <bullium> did anyone else see the new border that was on the menus during the beta versions of hard/
[14:54] <ayilma1> suspend was not working for many models in gutsy
[14:54] <Itaku> i have to apt-get something but i cant because it cant connect. is there another way?
[14:54] <gord_> kennethr: update with update-manager if no uodates found u are current, servers busy though
[14:54] <Jessid> ﻿bazhang: thanks a lot
[14:54] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Is it okay if I add the gutsy universe repository line in my sources.list in order to install that xfonts-artwiz package?
[14:54] <bazhang> itaku what is the error
[14:54] <cpu> bazhang.. k ty for co-oprate.. so I will find is that from my distro or the ubuntu works... so I wanted to ask is it a critical error or what !! .. I cant make restart
[14:55] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: i wouldn't think so, no
[14:55] <bricas> Hello all. I'm trying to remove my dependencies on kde app -- anyone ever done any switch from (1) Digikam to F-Spot and (2) Amarok to Rhythmbox? I don't want to lose my tags/ratings.
[14:55] <ere4si> Itaku: why can't it connect?
[14:55] <libervisco> Does engmail work on evolution?
[14:55] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: does not support USB???mmm too bad. Some plans to support it???
[14:55] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: How do I get that package then? Thanks.
[14:55] <nullmind> Why doe Firefox 3.0 have tall fonts?
[14:55] <indian_munnda_> gord_: actually i m having two computers and when i try to use the network on the other one it does not work because ISP needs my registered MAC.
[14:55] <dystopianray> Jessid: if you want usb support get the non open source edition off the virtualbox website
[14:55] <bazhang> cpu sorry missed your first question; is what a critical error
[14:55] <ere4si> Itaku: does it time out?
[14:56] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: no idea, find out why it's not included in hardy
[14:56] <kennethr> v0lksman: gord_: There's no way to actually verify that all of the packages are "release" bits, though?
[14:56] <LainIwakura> Also, is it recommended to downgrade firefox? I can not use any of the plugins.
[14:56] <Sajuukkhar> ok i wipe the entire harddirve and let it run: this is what i get: ext3 file system creation in partition #1 os SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed.
[14:56] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Alright.. thanks.
[14:56] <jhoc2x_> grabe.. 510ms man ang LAG
[14:56] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: i am reading it, but they dont have for ubuntu 8.04 yet
[14:56] <nullmind> Lainlwakura: Disable the "Version Check" in about:config
[14:56] <dystopianray> Jessid: do you need to use the usb support in virtualbox?
[14:56] <LainIwakura> nullmind: Great, thanks.
[14:56] <cpu> bazhang , I think I just can stay with my current situation with the distro ...
[14:56] <nullmind> Lainlwakura: Google Toolbar for example works fine once I did that
[14:56] <Sake> how come ca.archive.ubuntu.com times out when I try to apt-get install packages?
[14:57] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes ok, but u realise that two devices cannot exist at the same time using one single mac address, ie bothturnedon and plugged into network...in case u have that going on
[14:57] <cpu> bazhang .. and I cant do anything .. so I'm just tryin' to make another upgrade
[14:57] <dystopianray> !slow | Sake
[14:57] <ubotu> Sake: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[14:57] <nullmind> Sake Use a local mirror in Admin->Software Sources
[14:57] <bazhang> cpu okay if you specify the problem we may find a solution but ath is up to you
[14:57] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: yes, I have to "burn" some microcontrollers using windows and i prefer to run it under linux
[14:57] <eltech> whys it so difficult to install something like gdesklets afer install?
[14:57] <Itaku> ere4si: yeah it times out
[14:57] <Sake> nullmind: I'm using ubuntu server, don't have a gui
[14:57] <Itaku> oh wait it finally installed
[14:57] <eltech> seem slike all the repos are not reachable or something
[14:57] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar: did partition-editor recognize all your partitions?
[14:57] <agari> how long does the apt upgrade take?
[14:57] <bazhang> eltech the servers are slow at the moment
[14:57] <indian_munnda_> gord_: yes i know that and i use only one device at a time.
[14:57] <dystopianray> Jessid: i'm not sure if there will ever be usb support in the open source edition
[14:57] <PMantis> cdimage.ubuntu.com is timing out for me, too...
[14:57] <Sajuukkhar> its wiped them all and done it itself
[14:57] <cpu> bazhang.. ahhh ok .. ty .. I will report about if it repeated.. ty at all
[14:57] <Sajuukkhar> i think thats what 'guided' means
[14:58] <eltech> ah ok i thought it was me
[14:58] <NibiruET> Anyone running Ubuntu in a VirtualBox?
[14:58] <ere4si> Itaku: the servers are under a heavy load atm - give it a day
[14:58] <PMantis> I only want an 8.04 jeos torrent link. Anyone have one?
[14:58] <jburd> indian_munnda_: Get a switch and set up a proxy on the machine already registered.
[14:58] <spiniker> my upgrade took about 7 hours
[14:58] <eltech> bazhang but if I dl the .deb file why is it still looking for repo?
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> lol
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> 7 hours
[14:58] <Joelito> Thanks dystopianray, that help me :)
[14:58] <gord_>  kennethr: not really, but u can be sure they are "current" ie, up to date/hour/minute
[14:58] <spiniker> yup
[14:58] <indian_munnda_> gord_; i did ifconfig -a and it gave me info of all devices
[14:58] <bazhang> eltech which deb file
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> mine is taking me past the 36 hour mark
[14:58] <eltech> gdesklets
[14:58] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar: yes, but. sometimes you cant see all partitions if you havent shutdown windows correctly
[14:58] <PMantis> spiniker: Would've been quicker to download the alternate or DVD via torrent, and upgrade with local disc. :)
[14:58] <damo22> when i use 2.6.24 kernel it crashes
[14:58] <spiniker> really
[14:58] <cguillermo> but... thats not the case
[14:59] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: ok man. I hope they do...meanwhile, lets enjoy new Ubuntu, jejeje...Thanks a lot! By the way, do you know how to change the name of the disks shown in the desktop???
[14:59] <Sajuukkhar> windows isnt installed on here
[14:59] <eimajentha1> stupid question: why is my root (i.e. mounted at "/") partition commented out in /etc/fstab?  I'm running Ubuntu Server 8.04, and it's working fine, but that seems odd to me.
[14:59] <spiniker> men i guess i was lucky enough
[14:59] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok, so the physiocal address is the new one u specified on macchanger then?
[14:59] <bazhang> eltech likely because it has dependencies--best to waiut and get from the repos
[14:59] <eltech> k
[14:59] <dystopianray> Jessid: not in ubuntu, no
[14:59] <gord_> indian_munnda:...for the specific network card u are using, or eth0 if u only have one network card/nic
[14:59] <SeanTater> If there is this much lag at this market share, what will it be like when everyone uses ubuntu?
[15:00] <Sajuukkhar> can i make my own partitions
[15:00] <indian_munnda_> gord_: are talking about the hardware address?
[15:00] <cguillermo> Have you tried installing with the alternate cd?
[15:00] <loder> LainIwakura http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/17/adding-additional-repositories/ is about adding repositories generally and the Gutsy one i presume is main - I'm actually using Debian today I I can't actually read it off for you
[15:00] <Sake> how do I set local mirrors from the command line? I'm using ubuntu server..
[15:00] <spiniker> im now about to upgrade my laptop to 8.04..
[15:00] <bakom> hey
[15:00] <Sajuukkhar> wot alternate cd?
[15:00] <gord_> indian_munnda:yes thats it sorry
[15:00] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: mmm ok. Now that you say it, I am curious to know what distro do you use!
[15:00] <bazhang> SeanTater: interesting but not really suited to this channel thanks
[15:00] <amenado> eimajentha1-> can you paste your /etc/fstab for us to see?
[15:00] <loder> that was an excessive use of the word actually sorry about that :)
[15:00] <schnootop> Since installing hardy my gfx card doesnt get recognised and i get default screen resolution. What is the best way to configure this ?
[15:00] <dystopianray> Jessid: kubuntu
[15:00] <PMantis> Ubuntu 8.04 JeOS torrent file anyone?
[15:00] <LainIwakura> loder: Okay thanks.. although another user said that I should not add a gutsy repository line in my hardy sources.list?
[15:00] <tomd123> Sake: install desktop if you don't know
[15:00] <indian_munnda_> gord_: ok let me see.
[15:00] <Scunizi> SeanTater, I think there will be more mirrors available.
[15:00] <bazhang> !alternate | Sajuukkhar
[15:00] <ubotu> Sajuukkhar: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:00] <Jessid> ﻿dystopianray: Ok man! see you! And thanks a lot!
[15:01] <cguillermo> theres the desktop edition, and an alternate one, that gives you additional options for installing
[15:01] <bakom> schnootop, I have the same problem
[15:01] <Sajuukkhar> u mean the i386 one and the other one?
[15:01] <loder> LainIwakura well as to the wisdom I couldn't say - I'm just a newbie who can search :)
[15:01] <bazhang> LainIwakura: dont mix repos versions; bad juju will happen ;]
[15:01] <schnootop> bakom, have you gotten anywhere yet or know why its happening >
[15:01] <LainIwakura> loder: Hehe, alright.
[15:01] <spiniker> is there a room for emerald?
[15:01] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Okay.. :/
[15:01] <cguillermo> no, there is a desktop and an alternate cd for i386
[15:01] <bakom> nope, sorry, schnootop
[15:02] <schnootop> thats ok, ill update all my packages and see if that will fix it
[15:02] <bazhang> spiniker: you can try #compiz-fusion
[15:02] <spiniker> i cant seem to get it running on hardy
[15:02] <spiniker> ok thnks
[15:02] <Sajuukkhar> where can i get the alternate cd
[15:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[15:02] <Sajuukkhar> ok
[15:02] <Scunizi> PMantis, http://www.sumotorrent.com/en/details/785331/hardy-jeos-i386.iso.html    2 secs on google.. found it
[15:02] <loder> LainIwakura I actually added the VLc repos before it became standard fair and obviously that doesn't pose any conflict issues
[15:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna more info about wubi
[15:03] <LainIwakura> loder: I see.
[15:03] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent Sajuukkhar
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> it is available in ubuntu 8.0.4 server?
[15:03] <Sajuukkhar> im setting part's manualy
[15:03] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: http://www.wubi-installer.org
[15:03] <PMantis> Scunizi: Weird, I tried Google... took me to cdimage.ubuntu.com, which is dead ATM
[15:03] <PMantis> Scunizi: Thanks!
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> evand: nice.. thanks
[15:03] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php and yes it is.
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:03] <Scunizi> PMantis, np... I use www.google.com/linux  for linux related stuff
[15:03] <Fatty> Is there any way that I can update my current ubuntu to ubuntu 8, without burning it to a cd?
[15:03] <loder> I better go - I think I'm a good learner but not so good a teacher LOL
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice project
[15:03] <cguillermo> you shouldnt have to, if your installing from the entire disk the partitions are created automatically.
[15:03] <loder> Seeya
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> it works????
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> is stable?
[15:04] <treut> flashplugin doesnt work in opera, with ubuntu 8.04
[15:04] <bazhang> Fatty: sure; just via the net you mean?
[15:04] <Valeria28> \whois
[15:04] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: Mimi: uhm, no, it's not available in Ubuntu Server
[15:04] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:  You can install any Ubuntu ISO or CD you got using Wubi. Read the Faq
[15:04] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: yes, it works.  Yes, it's stable (though see the note about running it on Windows Vista)
[15:04] <bazhang> loder not so; you are very helpful thanks!
[15:04] <PMantis> Scunizi: Hmmm, 0 seeders, 0 leechers. Perhaps there's another on google.
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...gonna read the faq
[15:04] <Fatty> yea, i mean, i just installed ubuntu 7 like 2 weeks ago and now ubuntu 8 is out so i don't want to burn to cd, just want to like...update, some easy way
[15:04] <bazhang> haha vista
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks a lot
[15:04] <Fatty> heh i'm a noob
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu always rules!!!!
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:04]  * evand shakes fist at Vista.
[15:04] <FloodBot2> Aragorn_Guardian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <bazhang> fatty you can dist-upgrade if you wish
[15:05] <Sajuukkhar> my partitions; 1 20 gig ext 3 with /home mount point, 2 20 gig ext 3 with / mount point, 3 789 mb swap file
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> there are something like a xp theme for gnome???
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> people are too confusing with linux desktop...
[15:05] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:  If you are good enough at computers that you want to use Server, you shouldn't need Wubi ;)
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i hate users.. :/
[15:05] <Fatty> bazhang, just type dist-upgrade in a terminal?
[15:05] <indian_munnda> gord_: i did that and it showed the new MAC id.
[15:05] <Scunizi> PMantis, http://torrentz.ws/torrent/691417/hardy-jeos-i386-iso855012412442-5
[15:05] <LainIwakura> Is it hard to install a font by myself? Since the font I want to install is not in the Hardy repository
[15:05] <bazhang> fatty you need to make sure 7.10 is completely up-to-date first
[15:05] <Scunizi> !font | LainIwakura
[15:05] <ubotu> LainIwakura: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:05] <Fatty> it is
[15:06] <bazhang> !upgrade | Fatty
[15:06] <ubotu> Fatty: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: yeah, but my i got only an old machine by now.. :/....wubi is perfect...seemsvery nice
[15:06] <Myrtti> LainIwakura: put it in .fonts in your home directory
[15:06] <KiwiJoker> so whats hardy like so far?
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: an old with a windows....blarg
[15:06] <iddo> where do i see the last messages of the status log of the upgrade?
[15:06] <gord_> indian_munnda:ok good, so macchanger has at least worked....let me think a little 2 mins
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: but nice...thanks
[15:06] <bazhang> KiwiJoker: try it out for yourself
[15:06] <Sajuukkhar> nope didnt work, one of the ext systems failed
[15:06] <Scunizi> Myrtti, he still have to rebuild the font cache
[15:06] <indian_munnda> gord_: ok take your time.
[15:06] <KiwiJoker> i will, but hows hardy working for others?
[15:06] <PMantis> Scunizi: Oh, lovely, that took me to poro links when I tried to download
[15:06] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:   so you basically need  the server in a virtual machine to play around in? I do that too... try Virtual Box if you haven't yet. Works very well on windows
[15:07] <Fatty> oooh, just got an internal server error trying to go to that webpage
[15:07] <tomd123> KiwiJoker: Its easy and everything works alot better
[15:07] <bazhang> KiwiJoker: this is not a chat channel; bit crowded for that thanks
[15:07] <PMantis> Scunizi: I do appreciate the effort, though. :)
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> mimi
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> ops
[15:07] <elektronik123> who can unlock me on ubuntu-pl ?
[15:07] <Scunizi> PMantis, wow.. sorry.. I'll let you search ..
[15:07] <meatgrinder_> that upgrade link is dead
[15:07] <bazhang> elektronik123: /j #ubuntu-pl
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: dont know...i try play with vmware...huge big...but works...
[15:08] <elektronik123> bazhang i can`t join there
[15:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: nice!!! 8)
[15:08] <usicow> When I apt-get something, it always goes to us.archive.ubuntu.com. How can I change that?
[15:08] <PMantis> Scunizi: Heh, NP... google.com/linux was a good pinter
[15:08] <bazhang> elektronik123: you got banned?
[15:08] <eimajentha1> amenado, http://pastey.net/86532
[15:08] <PMantis> Scunizi: s/pinter/pointer/
[15:08] <elektronik123> bazhang yes
[15:08] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok the, the harwdware address of OK, does it have a IP address for that card? I assume eth0?
[15:08] <jburd> usicow: System > Administration > Software Sources
[15:08] <elektronik123> a lot time ago
[15:08] <bazhang> usicow: choose another mirror in synaptic
[15:09] <spiniker> would hardy still run on my old hp pIII machine,256mb ram?
[15:09] <ToxicSoul2> So I have slight problem, after upgrading my numpad no longer works
[15:09] <bharath> I installed hardy today; wireless does not work; hp pavilion laptop; Intel(R) 3945ABG/BG chip; iwl3945 driver. I see the chipset being detected in dmesg. But ifconfig does not show this interface. This was working perfectly in gutsy. Installing backports-modules did not help. Please help.
[15:09] <bazhang> spiniker: gnome hardy? doubtful
[15:09] <jburd> spiniker: Sure.  Give it a try.  You might want to use xubuntu though.
[15:09] <usicow> jburd/bazhang: Im only on SSH though.. do you know how I can do it via the console?
[15:09] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar, you should reformat your drive first. the easiest way I know to do that without having an os installed is with the alternate cd
[15:09] <amenado> eimajentha1-> it looks like your /dev/sda1 is mounted to /
[15:09] <indian_munnda> gord_: i have provided the public IP to the card which was given to me by the ISP.
[15:10] <Fatty> bazhang, that link doesn't work
[15:10] <elektronik123> bazhang what can i do ?
[15:10] <cguillermo> you should try it
[15:10] <Sake> is there a terminal that's comparable to putty on windows?
[15:10] <Stockfisch> is anyone here using epiphany instead of firefox ?
[15:10] <jburd> usicow: You can forward X requests through SSH.   Just ssh in using ssh -X foobar@blah
[15:10] <DJones> spiniker: xubuntu might be better for a machine with that spec
[15:10] <Ubuntong>  Does Hardy Heron support compiz on new ATI cards?
[15:10] <eimajentha1> amenado: yes, but it's commented out, why is that?
[15:10] <sletak> I've checked the forum but didnt see any recent hits, my new hardy is hanging when syncing to the repository on Translation-en_US.  Seemed to be some hits in google going back to each release.  Anyone else gettign this?
[15:10] <spiniker> no imean i have 7.10 installed right now..but i think it's slowing down..
[15:10] <jburd> usicow: Or you'll need to manually edit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:10] <Nith> Sake: there is putty for linux
[15:10] <amenado> eimajentha1-> it is not commented out, its the line that starts at UUID=xxxx
[15:10] <bazhang> bharath: the transiton from ipw to iwl has a couple of outstanding bugs at the moment--the launchpad page has a couple of possible workarounds iirc
[15:10] <ddrplayer512> sletak: I'm getting this problem as well...
[15:10] <jburd> You don't need putty for linux
[15:10] <treut> Is anyone manage to get flashplayer working in opera with ubuntu 8.04 x86 ?
[15:10] <rohan> is there _any_ way to install ubuntu using the iso but without burning the cd? all the cdrw's that i've got are bad :(
[15:10] <sletak> putty for linux is gtk1
[15:10] <gord_> indian_munnda:ok, just confirm that you have a dirdcect (network) connection to the internet? u dont use a modem/router/firewall? for example?
[15:10] <bharath> thanks bazhang; I will look for them
[15:11] <Fatty> I have the same question as rohan
[15:11] <DJones> !usb | rohan
[15:11] <ubotu> rohan: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:11] <Nith> you don't need it, but it does exist
[15:11] <schnootop> anyone know the best way to rebuild my source.list with the latest sources ?
[15:11] <gord_> indian_munnda:direct# bad keyboard skills after 24 hours of release-helping haha
[15:11] <amenado> eimajentha1-> read carefully, the line before it is a comment  #/dev/sda1  but next line starting with UUID is not
[15:11] <ddrplayer512> The package manager hangs when I try to update simply because, at least I think, a server is down...
[15:11] <Sajuukkhar> i have reformatted this tho so many times
[15:11] <jburd> rohan, Fatty: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <ISO_PATH> /mnt/
[15:11] <Nith> rohan: do you have a second computer (linux)?
[15:11] <bazhang> fatty okay; change gutsy to hardy in sources.list then sudo apt-get update  followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (and wait for a bit as a ton of packages are downloaede)
[15:11] <sletak> Sake: what are you trying to accomplish?  Do you need wyse60 emulation or something?
[15:11] <jburd> rohan: Mount the ISO to a point.
[15:11] <eimajentha1> amenado: I see!  the UUID identifies the filesystem, and /dev/sda1 is just there for my benefit?
[15:11] <indian_munnda> gord_: ;) , yes it is a direct connection to the ISP.
[15:12] <rohan> jburd: but then what?
[15:12] <spiniker> can i upgrade using the terminal?
[15:12] <rohan> Nith: no, second computer is windows only :(
[15:12] <jburd> rohan: after that run this if you aren't already prompted:
[15:12] <Fatty> where is sources.list, again?
[15:12] <jburd> /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:12] <elektronik123> where are irc ops ?
[15:12] <Fatty> ah ok
[15:12] <frieze> so is there a way to use a remote gui tool to set up a firewall on an ubuntu server install without actually installing x windows on the server itself?
[15:12] <bazhang> spiniker: from gutsy to hardy? sure
[15:12] <amenado> eimajentha1-> please man fstab  so you can understand what that file is about
[15:12] <termitor> hello
[15:12] <jburd> gksudo 'sh /mnt/cdromupgrade'
[15:12] <rohan> jburd: it's a desktop cd, not a alternate one
[15:12] <eimajentha1> amenado: never seen it done that way, but apparently it works.  Thanks for your help.
[15:13] <makkbe> spiniker: yes, do-release-upgrade
[15:13] <bazhang> elektronik123: go to #ubuntu-ops
[15:13] <jburd> Oh, I see.  You can't upgrade always using the Desktop CD rohan
[15:13] <spiniker> yes gutsy to hardy
[15:13] <amenado> eimajentha1-> please do read  man fstab
[15:13] <unimatrix9> i guess the new ubuntu is making waves outhere...
[15:13] <nappula> I can see my wireless card on my iwconfig and the mode is auto even though it should be managed but I can't get the card down to change the mode
[15:13] <jburd> rohan: You'll need the alternate disc.  It's best to download the live/alternate DVD ISO
[15:13] <eimajentha1> amenado: Reading
[15:13]  * N3bunel brb pauza de masa
[15:13] <Nith> frieze: yes, using ssh and +X you can run ayn gui program and the comp you're sshing into doesn't need an X server
[15:13]  * jburd is doing that
[15:13] <Sake> slestak: I dunno what that means. I just like how putty uses a small font and works with everything. :)
[15:13] <ddrplayer512> Hello everyone! My package manager freezes when I try to reload the repositories. I had just done a fresh install less than 30 minutes ago. Does anyone else have this problem
[15:13] <Itaku> my number keys on the right dont work but i have num lock on. how do i fix it
[15:13] <Fatty> bazhang, you said change gutsy to hardy, how do i do that? do i need to download the iso first?
[15:13] <ddrplayer512> ?
[15:13] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok then, (some ppl dont realise it might be the modem/router mac they have to change/spoof ) OK, so can you ping anything? try ping 72.14.207.99   its google.com
[15:13] <Sajuukkhar> im off to bed
[15:13] <Nith> frieze: if you want ot get more information, its alled "x forwarding"
[15:14] <Itaku> it moves the mouse everytime i hit a number
[15:14] <jones> greetings all. just upgraded to 8.04 and it is pretty cool. are the repo's running slow for everyone?
[15:14] <amenado> ddrplayer512-> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:14] <Sajuukkhar> 8 hours until i get this alternate cd
[15:14] <bazhang> makkbe: sorry; what is the full command? do-release-upgrade in the run command or int the terminal
[15:14] <nibsa1242b> ddrplayer512: the repos are overwhelmed... give people a few days to upgrade and they'll stop being swamped
[15:14] <unimatrix9> hardy : when i try to open login screen settings it does not start it, any tips?
[15:14] <snadge> i have a gutsy install.. and the alternate install for hardy, and the first time i put the disc in.. it asked me if i wanted to upgrade, and then failed (because i couldn't connect to internet).. and now when i put the disc in, it no longer prompts to upgrade.. how do i fix this
[15:14] <amenado> jones yes, its very very slow
[15:14] <makkbe> bazhang: in the terminal
[15:14] <treut> hi
[15:14] <termitor> someone have wifi bug ? the wifi get slowing after 15 minutes , (ralink 2500 pci )
[15:14] <rohan> Nith: what were you going to suggest anyway?
[15:14] <Sajuukkhar> what happens if the alternate cd doesnt work for my partitions?
[15:14] <nibsa1242b> Sajuukkhar: try a torrent, I got one in less then an hour
[15:14] <jones> amenado: thanks. just curious.
[15:14] <red_> i cant install limepro coz gdebi says it connot connect to ubuntu repository while the downloading the last file. my system is up to date with all repo except source code enabled. do i need to add another repo on the list
[15:14] <bazhang> makkbe: is that preceded by anything? or just that command
[15:14] <amenado> unimatrix9-> try  ctrl+alt+F1 to F5 to test the log on
[15:14] <rohan> jburd: anyway, i'd rather clean install than upgrade
[15:14] <asigrist> are the package servers down right now?
[15:15] <ddrplayer512> Ah... I imagine that. I've seen that happen when Gutsy came out, too. I should have known... Thanks!
[15:15] <Nith> rohan: I've got a computer without a working CDROM drive, I use a PXE server to install
[15:15] <snadge> how do i "force" gutsy to update to hardy using the install cd? (after its already failed once and no longer prompts to upgrade)
[15:15] <ddrplayer512> I'll try later.
[15:15] <Sajuukkhar> nibs, i have 25 kb/s internet
[15:15] <Nith> rohan: its a bit long to set up but it works well
[15:15] <amenado> asigrist-> -> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:15] <makkbe> bazhang: no, just that command
[15:15] <unimatrix9> amendado, i want to set it to auto login, but the manager does not start
[15:15] <jones> is there a way to remove the firefox 3 beta and use the old firefox? i have a lot of plugins that do not work in 3.. thanks for any help
[15:15] <unimatrix9> from gnome menu systeem..
[15:15] <frieze> Nith: thanks. I thought that when I ran ssh -Y it was doing forwarding but my understanding was that all teh gui stuff was happening on the remote machine using my local machine as a display. Since it seems like server and client are used interchangeably in x11 terminology I may have gotten that back-to-front
[15:15] <indian_munnda> gord_: no i can't ping anything other than my ISP server(the server to which i login before using).
[15:15] <asigrist> amenado, yea my network connection is quite fast yet i still can't even reload my repositories data.
[15:15] <bazhang> fatty you want to do this all via the cli?
[15:15] <makkbe> jones: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[15:15] <Fatty> cli?
[15:15] <makkbe> then you will have both of them installed
[15:16] <jones> makke: do i need to remove the 3 version?
[15:16] <rohan> Nith: there's no PXE server available for windows? anyway, for that you'd need the alternate disc, right?
[15:16] <Sajuukkhar> so what happens if the alternate cd doesnt work? do i just give up and go back to dapper drake?
[15:16] <amenado> unimatrix9-> try  ctrl+alt+F1 to F5 to test the log on  <-- to test it first
[15:16] <red_> i cant install limewire pro coz gdebi says it connot connect to ubuntu repository while downloading the last file. my system is up to date with all repo except source code enabled. do i need to add another repo on the list? any help pls
[15:16] <treut> Is anyone manage to get flashplayer working in opera with ubuntu 8.04 x86 ?
[15:16] <bazhang> makkbe: could you please explain what you just said to Fatty? he wants to upgrade from gutsy to hardy thanks
[15:16] <jones> makkbe: do i need to remove 3?
[15:16] <Fatty> yes, help me, lol
[15:16] <makkbe> jones: nah, you can have then both installed
[15:16] <spiniker> well it's taking a little while,but hey,its worth the wait..
[15:16] <gord_> indian_munnda: aha , i see. and that ping is by IP? not "domain.org" yes?
[15:17] <makkbe> Fatty: just run do-release-upgrade in a terminal
[15:17] <mino> any french channel pls?
[15:17] <bazhang> !fr
[15:17] <makkbe> it will upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[15:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:17] <Nith> rohan: yeah. Any reason you can't just upgate?
[15:17] <jones> makkbe: how will it know which one to load? also will all the flash and java work between the 2 of them? thanks for the help
[15:17] <Theo_> Restricted drivers: why does it say my graphics driver is not in use?
[15:17] <amenado> Sajuukkhar-> try to make it work
[15:17] <rohan> Nith: i usually like clean installs :)
[15:17] <makkbe> jones: ff2 will show up in your app menu
[15:17] <indian_munnda> gord_: i can only ping my gateway nothing else.
[15:17] <makkbe> so you will have to choose for yourself which one to start
[15:17] <jburd> rohan: Some of us can't do clean installs without going to great lengths
[15:17] <jones> makkbe: ok i will try it now.
[15:18] <Fatty> thanks makkbe, i'll let you know if that works
[15:18] <gord_> indian_munnda: hmmmm ok. we're reaching the ned of my sure-fire knowledge here i'm afraid :(
[15:18] <indian_munnda> gord_: :)
[15:18] <rohan> jburd: i seem to be one of them, and only for a lack of a cd :-/
[15:18] <amenado> rohan-> what do you consider clean install? you can try something like from install from scratch with  debootstrap  but for now only available is 7.10 not 8.04 yet
[15:18] <ddrplayer512> I really like that new thing where you can use the desktop CD and choose the option to just Install Ubuntu. Has anyone tried that?
[15:18] <rohan> fedora iso has a convenient livecd-iso-to-usb script
[15:19] <Fatty> 0% [working] for a while now
[15:19] <bazhang> ddrplayer512: aye its nice
[15:19] <d1nker> Theo_: if you figure it out let me know
[15:19] <artti> Does sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
[15:19] <jburd> rohan: I have tons of development stuff lying around that I don't want to recreate
[15:19] <makkbe> artti: no
[15:19] <snadge> can anyone tell me how to make it so when i insert the alternate install cd to my gutsy install.. it prompts me to upgrade?? its only done it once, and no longer asks me.. there must be some temp files laying around or something?\
[15:19] <tomd123> artti: no
[15:19] <makkbe> artti: but do-release-upgrade will
[15:19] <bazhang> rohan ubuntu has one as well
[15:19] <spiniker> maybe ill upgrade in the next few days..it's taking too long
[15:19] <amenado> Fatty-> the far end server is very very busy, your update may not complete for a long time..far too many downloading
[15:19] <qryzy> anyone assist in configuring networ where rest of pc have xp
[15:19] <jburd> spiniker: Use a different mirror
[15:19] <bhsx> hey, i have Crossover Office 6.2 and it works great, but I was wondering how the 'official' ubuntu wine package is?  does it have a GUI fe now like was planned?
[15:19] <Theo_> How do I enable my ati graphics card?
[15:19] <Ubuntong>  Does Hardy Heron support compiz on new ATI video cards?
[15:19] <rohan> bazhang: where?
[15:19] <bhsx> is it 1.0?
[15:20] <bazhang> rohan you can /msg ubotu install for a link
[15:20] <Fatty> yea i figured, it'll download eventually though right?
[15:20] <nibsa1242b> snadge: hold on one sec I think I have an answer for you
[15:20] <dystopianray> Ubuntong: it should
[15:20] <unimatrix9> solved my little problem thanks for the time
[15:20] <makkbe> Ubuntong: it works for me
[15:20] <jones> \\\\\
[15:20] <cal_> trying to install hardy on 6910p laptop - i get "failed to start the X server" --- even when i use SAFE mode
[15:20] <amenado> qryzy-> yes,
[15:20] <Fatty> amenado, i can just let it run like over the weekend?
[15:20] <spiniker> uh,its starting already
[15:20] <Fatty> oh nevermind it went through
[15:20] <amenado> Fatty-> do your update next week perhaps, maybe the load would be lighter
[15:20] <Itaku> my number keys on the right dont work but i have num lock on. how do i fix it
[15:20] <Itaku> it moves the mouse everytime i hit a number
[15:20] <Ubuntong> makkbe: Without a lot of reconfiguring?
[15:20] <bazhang> never heard that do-release-upgrade before though
[15:20] <snadge> nibsa1242b: holding on ;)
[15:20] <ddrplayer512> I don't usually upgrade over the Internet on the day it comes out. I can't install software for Hardy. I'm glad I didn't upgrade from Dapper. I was considering that... Scary... :)
[15:20] <makkbe> Ubuntong: yes, no worries here
[15:21] <gord_> indian_munnda: so, to recap you have used macchanger to change a mac, verified it in ifconfig, assigned manual public as given by ISP, and you can ping your default gateway at the ISP. You have a direct network connection (no modem/router involved)? ideas anyone? i susspect this isnt an ubuntu problem, more a "spoof mac to get public IP on a new-box" question, different channel suggestions anyone?
[15:21] <roychri> I am trying to run the update on my 7.10 but it stuck at "Downloading file 15 of 24". Any suggestions?
[15:21] <jburd> Does the upgrade tool store all the downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[15:21] <slytherin> cal_: I believe there is a bug, search on launchpad.net
[15:21] <Fatty> THANKS EVERYONE
[15:21] <JohnMM> woo hardy haron is released :D
[15:21] <bazhang> ddrplayer512: there is a dirct path from dapper to hardy you know
[15:21] <Ubuntong> makkbe: That would be awesome.  It's always an issue foe me. Thanks!
[15:21] <nibsa1242b> snadge: according to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading bottom of the page you use the following command gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[15:21] <rohan> bazhang: that guide is for installing using the hdd
[15:21] <andycaass> What was the program that enabled you to see cpu temps on app bar?
[15:21] <amenado> rochri -> -> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:21] <rohan> bazhang: but will work great, thanks a lot :)
[15:21] <jburd> That's because I have other machines and I'd like to move new packages to the apt-cacher server
[15:21] <cal_> sly: a bug specificly for 6910p? or ATI drivers?
[15:21] <vwbusguy-> does Ubuntu 8.04 support ext4?  and if so how can I upgrade my fs from ext3?
[15:21] <dishayu> i get a (initramfs) screen while trying to install/use live cd of hardy...  c2d e6300,msi p965 neo, 2 GB dd2 667 , Geforce 7300GT 512MB... what do i do?
[15:21] <ddrplayer512> bazhang: Yeah, I know. But I figured that the repos would be flooded, and I wanted Hardy NOW. So... :)
[15:21] <jburd> vwbusguy-: Don't unless you're experimenting with the kernel.
[15:22] <qryzy> my friend has installed it but it wont browse or see other pc on the network
[15:22] <amenado> vwbusguy--> you have to compile your kernel to support such new file system
[15:22] <W8TAH> when doing a dual boot install, one should install windows first, correct???
[15:22] <slytherin> cal_: some hp laptop enable to boot. not sure of it is same as your problem
[15:22] <indian_munnda> gord_: when i change my MAC id then i can't even ping my gateway
[15:22] <bakom> hey, I updated to ubuntu 8.04 and now my screen resolution is somehow strange.. everything is too large, so that I can see only a part of my desktop and now menu to change the resolution, what can I do?
[15:22] <ddrplayer512> W8TAH: Yes
[15:22] <W8TAH> thanks
[15:22] <gord_> indian_munnda: aha! good point then
[15:22] <nibsa1242b> snadge: is that working for you?
[15:22] <amenado> qryzy-> you have to be clearer on what the problem is, detail or elaborate your network layout
[15:22] <jburd> indian_munnda: What is the original problem?
[15:22] <gord_> indian_munnda: so we just need to restart networking maybe
[15:23] <indian_munnda> gord_: but i did that too
[15:23] <cal_> sly: hmm lauchpad is a sourceforge clone?
[15:23] <vwbusguy-> So ext4 is not supported in 8.04?
[15:23] <ddrplayer512> The rule of thumb is... Older versions of Windows to Newer Versions, then other OSes like Ubuntu/Linux, FreeBSD, etc.
[15:23] <slytherin> bakom: At the login screen I think you have an option for some recovery.
[15:23] <amenado> bakom  try  crtl+alt+ +  the last + is the plus in the numeric keypad
[15:23] <nabil2199> I'm having trouble getting gutsy to upgrade the upgrade manager is unable to download the upgrade tool
[15:23] <slytherin> cal_: no
[15:23] <indian_munnda> gord_: let me provide a recap to you.
[15:23] <gord_> indian_munnda: err, yes, but it didnt work, and it probably should have :)
[15:23] <andycaass> What was the program that enabled you to see cpu temps on app bar?
[15:23] <bakom> slytherin, I don't see the login screen when starting up
[15:23] <snadge> nibsa1242b: cheers that worked thanks :)
[15:23] <rohan> bazhang: aha, the "usb" factoid helped me.. thanks for the pointer
[15:23] <amenado> nabil2199->  -> -> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:23] <slytherin> bakom: then how do you login?
[15:23] <Eren> hi
[15:23] <jburd> indian_munnda: I can't be bothered to scroll up and read everything.  can you restate your original problem?
[15:23] <un2him> anyone having problems with gnome-do?
[15:23] <vwbusguy-> amenado, so ext4 is not supported in 8.04?
[15:23] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes please i working 3 probs in 4 channels here lol
[15:23] <nibsa1242b> nabil2199: the servers are swamped, give them a few hours or days and then try again
[15:23] <nabil2199> thanks amenado
[15:24] <tomd123> vwbusguy-: no
[15:24] <spiniker> nabil u should try it in the terminal.
[15:24] <slytherin> un2him: what kind of problem?
[15:24] <Eren> does ubuntu's partition managing application inside installed support ReiserFS?
[15:24] <nibsa1242b> snadge: you are welcome! happy upgrading
[15:24] <bakom> slytherin, automatically
[15:24] <spiniker> i had the same problem
[15:24] <indian_munnda> jburd: yes i m recaping the problm.
[15:24] <Eren> does it formats selected partiton with ReiserFS and install ubuntu?
[15:24] <Ubuntong> Wow the torrent is very fast!
[15:24] <elektronik123> ubuntu ops don`t recive
[15:24] <andycaass> What was the program that enabled you to see cpu temps on app bar?
[15:24] <dishayu> i get a the (initramfs) screen while trying to install/boot from hardy CD...  c2d e6300,msi p965 neo, 2 GB dd2 667 , Geforce 7300GT 512MB... what do i do?
[15:24] <bakom> amenado, thanks, but nothing happens, when I press crtl+alt+ +
[15:24] <un2him> slytherin: wont open urls in firefox...does nothing
[15:24] <amenado> vwbusguy--> you can verify by checking the /boot/config* file  grep it for ext4 if supported..i already advised you to recompile the kernel
[15:24]  * jburd would like to know where the upgrade tool caches packages
[15:24] <jburd> So I can move it to my apt-cacher server
[15:24] <bakom> is there a way to change the screen resolution via console?
[15:25] <amenado> bakom-> try the crtrl+alt  -   (minus) several times, but be patient, pause between presses
[15:25] <nabil2199> the upgrade tool(hardy.gz) cannot be downloaded by the update_manager but using wget i got it
[15:25] <gkhnoisgtht> just a quick question is there anyway to make a live cd ubuntu server that automatically sets up a raid 5 configuration and samba
[15:25] <gord_> jburd: maybe he just needs if up after macchange...we'll see
[15:25] <slytherin> bakom: Ok. do one thing. Open terminal from Applications->Accessories. Do 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[15:25] <bazhang> elektronik123: then just go back when they do
[15:25] <adil> you knowaboutdota
[15:25] <roychri> amenado: Lots of people upgrading I bet :)
[15:25] <lyroy> I'm trying to install 8.04 from scratch and I'm having an issue... the installation freeze at Disk Partionner (Scanning disks 46%) ... I have a SATA disk on an Intel Motherboard... does someone have an idea?
[15:25] <slytherin> bakom: oops, the second file name should be .conf.bak
[15:25] <amenado> nabil2199-> so you got it use it, i already told you the other end is busy
[15:25] <nabil2199> thx
[15:26] <nabil2199> how do I use it?
[15:26] <P0larBear> busy channel
[15:26] <ad> hi
[15:26] <slytherin> un2him: I don't have it installed right now, so will take some time to check
[15:26] <adil> hi
[15:26] <ad> are there any stats /web/download from release day ?
[15:26] <un2him> slytherin: thanks!
[15:26] <P0larBear> 8.04 desktop x86 works great on my gateway laptop....except the screen brightness control keys
[15:26] <roychri> P0larBear: indeed! Never seen so many people.
[15:26] <bazhang> ad no idea; not really a support topic thanks
[15:27] <schnootop> anyone know why the en_AU translations are all broken in the update manager ?
[15:27] <sdakak> I am downloading the ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386-iso.torrent from http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/. How do i check the md5sum?
[15:27] <P0larBear> 8.04 is a hit i guess :)
[15:27] <bazhang> !md5 | sdakak
[15:27] <ubotu> sdakak: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:27] <kthakore> I am having trouble doing the upgrade to hardy in Canada
[15:27] <HayHay> Hi, Trying to play song on Last FM - Seem to be missing something - won't play. Any suggestions?
[15:27] <hyjal> Any way to make my NTFS partitions mount automatically in hardy, like they did in gutsy? Now I have to click them to mount them every time I log on
[15:27] <amenado> kthakore->  the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:27] <nappula> P0larBear, well I'm considering downgrading already
[15:27] <P0larBear> HayHay I'm in Toronto and had trouble with the waterlooU server
[15:27] <roychri> Anyone knows where I could get my hands on Hardy Heron VMWare appliance? I found one when it was still beta and I am looking for the new release.
[15:27] <P0larBear> it is overloaded
[15:27] <indian_munnda> i have used the macchanger-gtk to change my MAC, verified it in ifconfig but internet stopped working aftr changing MAC. then assigned my public IP to it as given by the ISP and i can't ping my ISP server through which i login to the server to use internet. I have direct connection.
[15:27] <ad> bazhang,  is there a normal ubuntu chat channel somewhere , if this is support ?
[15:27] <bazhang> kthakore: the servers are slow at the moment
[15:28] <sdakak> bazhang: You miss the point what is md5sum of the proper dvd?
[15:28] <bakom> amenado, thanks, I tried it, but nothing happens... the problem is also, that I have an laptop keyboard, so I don't have an explicit numpad
[15:28] <bazhang> !ot | ad
[15:28] <ubotu> ad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:28] <P0larBear> i picked a .EU one in the middle of our night, and they were much faster
[15:28] <ad> P0larBear, ubuntu.com has google analytis enabled
[15:28] <roychri> The connection has timed out.  The server at archive.ubuntu.com is taking too long to respond.
[15:28] <slytherin> sdakak: if you are already on ubuntu the command is 'md5sum filename.iso' and then compare it against the one available on website
[15:28] <bakom> slytherin, I did that (with .bak.conf) ... I'm currently rebooting....
[15:28] <amenado> bakom then you have to proly fiddle with /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[15:28] <murlidhar> still no support for my all in one epson stylus cx2800 :(
[15:28] <bazhang> sdakak: you want me to search for it?
[15:28] <amenado> bakom make a copy first though before modifying
[15:28] <slytherin> roychri: use some local mirror
[15:28] <JohnMM> sdakak, MD5 (kubuntu-kde4-8.04-alternate-i386.iso) = b7195c72b564b3676e584cb774e9002c
[15:28] <bakom> amenado, yes, I tried slytherin command
[15:28] <lyroy> I'm trying to install 8.04 from scratch and I'm having an issue... the installation freeze at Disk Partionner (Scanning disks 46%) ... I have a SATA disk on an Intel Motherboard... does someone have an idea?
[15:28] <slytherin> amenado: he did that already
[15:29] <indian_munnda> jburd: i have provided the information to the gord_ read it.
[15:29] <HayHay> PolarBear: I'm not sure I have the right player or codecs installed?
[15:29] <P0larBear> anybody have suggestions on if it is possible to get laptop screen brightness control on a Gateway MX6930 laptop?
[15:29] <bazhang> !codecs | HayHay
[15:29] <ubotu> HayHay: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:29] <sdakak> slytherin: bazhang: I am looking for the md5sum of the ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i380-iso which is nowhere to be found. It is the DVD
[15:29] <slytherin> lyroy: it may not be freeze actually, be patient, have a coffee break. If it still doesn't work, file a bug. :-)
[15:29] <P0larBear> the right codecs to download ubuntu 8.04?
[15:29] <jburd> indian_munnda: Which ISP is this?  And why are you changing your MAC?
[15:29] <mib_5klyf1zq> is the server for downloading the respotories naturally slow?
[15:30] <murlidhar> P0larBear, there is add on paenl thingy than can control the brightness of the moniter
[15:30] <bakom> slytherin, thanks, It's working :)
[15:30] <amenado> mib_5klyf1zq->  the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:30] <bazhang> mib_5klyf1zq: the day after release yes
[15:30] <P0larBear> murlidhar any idea of the name?
[15:30] <mib_5klyf1zq> ah i see...
[15:30] <HayHay> ok - for tip on search for codecs. thx
[15:30] <P0larBear> it'd be nice to have the keyboard working, but maybe i can get that app to use the keys
[15:30] <gkhnoisgtht> just a quick question is there anyway to make a live cd ubuntu server that automatically sets up a raid 5 configuration and samba
[15:30] <ampex> is http://us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[15:31] <murlidhar> P0larBear, right-click on the panel and select brightness control
[15:31] <slytherin> P0larBear: brigheness control won't work if there is problem the way your laptop's ACPI works. Better file a bug
[15:31] <bazhang> gkhnoisgtht: the server is install only not live
[15:31] <indian_munnda> jburd: i m having two computer systems when i try to run net in the other one it does not working because MAC is registered to the ISP server.
[15:31] <slytherin> ampex: that mirror is always known to have problems. I wonder why is it even included in mirror lists
[15:31] <gkhnoisgtht> could the desktop version be configured as such?
[15:31] <jburd> indian_munnda: I think it's a bit fast in here.  you can /join ##linux-india I guess.
[15:31] <amenado> gkhnoisgtht-> i dont think debian-installer preseed support raid 5 yet, but i could be wrong or didnt pay attention to that details as i dont have the need for it
[15:31] <gord_> indian_munnda: at a commandline please do -   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart after u ise machanger, let me know if that reports any errors
[15:31] <toxic_> #ubuntu-fr
[15:31] <mlw1> is it plausible that installing nvidia 96 drivers would fix my problem with resolution changing?
[15:31] <tristanbob> does hardy include open office 3, or a beta of it?
[15:31] <bazhang> gkhnoisgtht: sure; just add lamp
[15:32] <slytherin> indian_munnda: which ridiculous ISP is that?
[15:32] <gkhnoisgtht> Thank you both
[15:32] <ampex> slytherin: have a good replacement for me?
[15:32] <Theo_> why does it say my ati fire gl is not in use if i enabled it?
[15:32] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes a slower channel will be a lot more help i think, its more of a generla linux - webby-hosting - mac-spoofing question too
[15:32] <tononoinks> anybody know how to get the mic working
[15:32] <slytherin> ampex: can't say. I am not in US.
[15:32] <JohnMM> indian_munnda, comcast does that too ...use a router
[15:32] <jburd> indian_munnda: I guessed so.  You probably have a static IP address bound to your MAC by your ISP's gateway.
[15:32] <indian_munnda> gord_: i did the same as you said and it even stopped pinging my ISP srver
[15:32] <ampex> slytherin: is there a list somewhere?
[15:32] <jburd> indian_munnda: The best solution is to use a router and tell them to use the hardware address of the router.
[15:32] <Frijolie> does Hardy have Compiz or Compiz-Fusion installed, how do you check?
[15:33] <edugonch_> 7join #ubuntu-devel
[15:33] <jburd> indian_munnda: Then connect both computers to the router (using a switch if required)
[15:33] <slytherin> ampex: you will have to search. There is definitely a list on wiki.ubuntu.com or launchpad.net. Search for word 'mirror'
[15:33] <edugonch_> 7join #ubuntu-dev
[15:33] <roychri> slytherin: I changed, hit reload, and it complained about some files not found.
[15:33] <JohnMM> jburd, my router supports mac address spoofing hehe so I just had it spoof the mac address of my computer and all is good :D
[15:33] <bazhang> gnome does ues Frijolie the basic stuff
[15:33] <tononoinks> anybody know how to get the mic working?
[15:33] <gord_> indian_munnda: hmmmmm. did it say anything about DHCP discovers?
[15:33] <indian_munnda> jburd: yes you r write its a static ip
[15:33] <jburd> indian_munnda: The other solution is to set up the already configured machine as a proxy for the other machine.
[15:33] <Frijolie> bazhang: huh?
[15:33] <slytherin> roychri: which files?
[15:33] <mib_5klyf1zq> whats the best video editor for linux? or is it better to just use virtualbox and install adobe premiere on windows?
[15:33] <jburd> indian_munnda: bridge both network interfaces one to wan and the other to lan
[15:34] <roychri> PAckages.gz
[15:34] <roychri> slytherin: Packages.gz
[15:34] <jburd> indian_munnda: MAC spoofing isn't a very ideal solution.
[15:34] <slytherin> mib_5klyf1zq: you may want to try kino or pitivi
[15:34] <mib_5klyf1zq> wat about cinelerra?
[15:34] <jburd> indian_munnda: a switch will cost you somewhere around 900 bucks INR.
[15:34] <gord_> indian_munnda: yeah far simpler if other machine is still working
[15:34] <indian_munnda> gord_: i m running DNS server
[15:34] <cvw> I cannot perform updates against http://us.archive.ubuntu.com, however, I can ping it just fine.  Is this a known issue?
[15:34] <tolonuga> anyone speeking french here? I got a bug report (221856 at launchpad.net), but because of the french locale I don't understand it. if anyone could translate it for me, that would be nice.
[15:34] <mrTr0ut> okay, so I just installed 8.04 to a ext3 partition but it never modified the boot record and I only have the option to boot into xp
[15:34] <bazhang> cvw: the servers are overloaded at the moment
[15:34] <Pilha> hello ev'ryone
[15:35] <roychri> cvw: Too many people upgrading. Use a local server/mirror
[15:35] <indian_munnda> jburd: you mean to use a hub
[15:35] <Heroin> anyone here use or used conceal?
[15:35] <gord_> indian_munnda: ah yes u did say, i no expert on that , but it might comlicate
[15:35] <amenado> mrTr0ut-> then what are you waiting for? modify it to suit your new install
[15:35] <jburd> indian_munnda: No.  I mean use a switch.   Not a hub.
[15:35] <Pilha> ahaa, before even asking I have my answer
[15:35] <cvw> roychri: your comment is unhelpful without a link to a list that can provide local servers or mirrors.
[15:35] <jburd> indian_munnda: The best solution is to use a router with your ISP.
[15:35] <HayHay> P0larBear: What player comes up when you select a song to listen to?
[15:35] <roychri> cvw: The list is in synaptic.
[15:35] <mlw1> did anything change with the connect to server interfaces?  They're not working for me anymore
[15:35] <noob-africa> hi all
[15:36] <Pilha> so, does anyone have a mirrors or local servers list?
[15:36] <roychri> cvw: In "Repositeries"
[15:36] <HayHay> P0larBear: At LastFM?
[15:36] <jburd> indian_munnda: Where are you located and which ISP is this?
[15:36] <Heroin> Anyone use Conceal?
[15:36] <bazhang> cvw: use synaptic to change mirrors and go easy on the volunteers here thanks
[15:36] <indian_munnda> jburd: but ISP is not providing any router.
[15:36] <Pilha> fr.ubuntu seems overloaded too
[15:36] <jburd> indian_munnda: Well buy one!
[15:36] <slytherin> To all those who are looking for list of mirrors - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors (this one has status too)
[15:36] <mrTr0ut> well last time i installed ubuntu it had it's own boot up thing and UI wasn't sure if editing it from xp would work the same, but i'll go ahead and do it now, thank
[15:36] <noob-africa> i have a problem with compiz... any takers? my System -> Appearance - > Use Custom Settings doesnt work
[15:36] <indian_munnda> jburd: i m in INDIA,delhi.
[15:36] <Pilha> slytherin: cool, many thx
[15:36] <edugonch_> Hello, I have install code:blocks but I have problems when I try to compile a project, an error with a file wx/setup.h that not is found
[15:36] <bazhang> !grub | mrTr0ut
[15:36] <ubotu> mrTr0ut: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:36] <jburd> indian_munnda: Yes, I'm in India too.
[15:36] <edugonch_> any help please
[15:36] <nibsa1242b> Help- I'm trying to do a network upgrade. I got an error message "no valid mirror found". Now it is asking me do you want to rewrite your sources.list file and update all gusty entries to hardy?
[15:36] <nreisan> whats a universal repository i can add for hardy
[15:37] <indian_munnda> jburd: and its hotwire direct broadband
[15:37] <roychri> cvw: Open synaptic, clicks on "Settings" and then "Repositories".  You can change the "Server" (Click on "Other")
[15:37] <slytherin> edugonch_: what are you trying to compile?
[15:37] <jburd> indian_munnda: ok
[15:37] <Frijolie> when you enable System --> Preferences --> Appearance --> Visual Effects --> Extra, does that enable Compiz or Compiz-Fusion?
[15:37] <cvw> roychri: thank you
[15:37] <tommydanger> is pulseaudio proven to be reliable ?
[15:37] <indian_munnda> jburd: you see the website of the hotwire if you want
[15:37] <jburd> indian_munnda: come over to ##linux-india, plenty of local help around.  ;-)
[15:37] <tommydanger> whenever I switch windows the sound stutters :/
[15:37] <slytherin> jburd: indian_munnda: And #ubuntu-in too. :-)
[15:38] <edugonch_> a xwWidget project
[15:38] <jburd> yeah
[15:38] <tommydanger> online radio that is
[15:38] <free_loader> I'm having trouble finding mpic++ on my machine although mpicc is present... anybody has a clue on how to get that to work?
[15:38] <gord_> indian_munnda:hmmm, are you sure you havent mis-typed the MAC ? thats my usual mistake :)
[15:38] <noob-africa> !compiz
[15:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[15:38] <pLr> Frijolie: its compiz-fusion you should download advanced compiz settings manager ;)
[15:38] <emivan> #ubuntu-pt
[15:38] <bazhang> !ccsm | Frijolie
[15:38] <Frijolie> I just got conflicting answers
[15:38] <slytherin> edugonch_: you need to install package that contains header files, libwxbase2.8-dev probably
[15:38] <Doubletwist> Hmm. surprised the load on my torrent seeds isn't higher
[15:38] <dmakalsky> Hi, when I try to upgrade using the alternate cd I get the following error:
[15:38] <dmakalsky> tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[15:38] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes i recommend quietr channel this is crazy in here today due to new version release of ubuntu, i think yours is a more general problem u see
[15:38] <bazhang> ubotu lag
[15:39] <dmakalsky> but the file exists
[15:39] <indian_munnda> jburd: ok logon to my computer and yoiu can see the info your self then just tell me the problem. I m running open-ssh server
[15:39] <ubotu> Frijolie: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[15:39] <bazhang> phew
[15:39] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[15:39] <emivan> #ubuntu-br
[15:40] <edugonch_> slytherin: I already have it install, but I also have install the 2.6 version
[15:40] <edugonch_> it can be the problem
[15:40] <bazhang> !slow | dmakalsky
[15:40] <ubotu> dmakalsky: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[15:40] <gord_> indian_munnda: if u ping default gateay but get no further, (and default gateway is on the ISP end due to dircet net connection/no router) then it seems to me that your linux-end is ok, barring a silly problem
[15:40] <jones> anyone know if there is an irc room for avant-window-navigator? i am unable to luanch apps from the dock?
[15:40] <cvw> jones: #awn
[15:40] <shadow_> hello. I have some problems installing my fx5200 (nvidia) card via envy. i try to install i, but it says this:
[15:40] <shadow_> http://two.xthost.info/helloo/envy-installer.log
[15:41] <dmakalsky> bazhang, I am using in ISO image via torrent
[15:41] <dystopianray> shadow_: why are you using envy?
[15:41] <bazhang> shadow_: this is gutsy or hardy
[15:41] <dmakalsky> I am having trouble running the cdromupgrade command
[15:41] <shadow_> to install nvidia frivers
[15:41] <shadow_> neither one to be honest
[15:41] <Frijolie> hmm..thanks for trying to help
[15:41] <Szego> So I just upgraded to Hardy and I can only connect to the wireless network at my school but not at my home. Does anyone have any ideas why this may be happening?
[15:41] <pLr> jones follow a guide for stable setups
[15:41] <emivan> #ubuntu-pt
[15:41] <uscream> are there issues with rinning updates as well??  because of the heavy loads... or is it just something im doing wrong????
[15:41] <hwdyki_> what's the minimum req for hardy heroin?
[15:41] <bazhang> shadow_ which version of ubuntu
[15:41] <slytherin> edugonch_: it is not also, it is or. Perhaps the thing you are trying to compile doesn't work with 2.8
[15:41] <shadow_> mint 4.0 daryna, a clone of ubuntu
[15:41] <slytherin> uscream: heavy loads
[15:41] <dystopianray> shadow_: it says you have gutsy
[15:41] <JDogHerman> any one know how to stop the error; sudo: unable to resolve host ...
[15:42] <bazhang> shadow_: please /j #linuxmint
[15:42] <dystopianray> shadow_: this is not the support channel for that distro
[15:42] <shadow_> ITS THE SAME
[15:42] <nibsa1242b> Help- I'm trying to do a network upgrade. I got an error message "no valid mirror found". Now it is asking me do you want to rewrite your sources.list file and update all gusty entries to hardy? What should I do?
[15:42] <uscream> slytherin:   ty.. i thought so, just making sure =]   ty
[15:42] <bazhang> shadow_: not supproted here
[15:42] <gord_> <dmakalsky: u have to run it from the commandline, not by clicking on it, I assume its the alternateCD u have and wish to upgrade avoiduing using the busy mirrors?
[15:42] <dystopianray> shadow_: it's not supported here
[15:42] <dmakalsky> gord_, yes
[15:42] <dmakalsky> I did run from the cmd line
[15:42] <slytherin> shadow_: if it is same why are you not using ubuntu?
[15:42] <gord_> <dmakalsky: 1 min i find the command or link to instructions
[15:43] <jones> pLr: what guide would this be. i followed on for the bzr on 8.04
[15:43] <dmakalsky> gord_, I mounted the iso without burning a cd
[15:43] <bazhang> shadow_: go to www.ubuntu.com/download and get the real deal, then we can talk ;]
[15:43] <gord_> <dmakalsky: ah , what's it say then?
[15:43] <mlw1> which version of nvidia drivers should I install if 7.10 and 7.04 worked fine with no extra configuration for me but 8.04 doesn't?  just nvidia-glx?
[15:43] <dmakalsky> could that be the problem?
when i say its the same I mean for the packages and so on. it has a few extras that help me out
[15:43] <JDogHerman> any one know how to stop the error; sudo: unable to resolve host ...?
[15:43] <dassouki> my sound card stopped working after i upgraded
[15:43] <dmakalsky> gord_, tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[15:43] <dystopianray> shadow_: it is not supported here
[15:43] <gord_> <dmakalsky: ok loop moounted, nah should be OK i think? anyone?
[15:43] <indian_munnda> jburd: r u there?
[15:43] <bazhang> !mint > shadow_
[15:44] <dmakalsky> gord_, so I can ls the same path it's erroring on
[15:44] <pLr> mlw1:  you should go online to check which to install
[15:44] <shadow_> oh come on
[15:44]  * IndyGunFreak celebrates.. got wireless working with little fuss
[15:44] <slytherin> shadow_: Still this is not the support channel for mint. Sorry.
[15:44] <gord_> <dmakalsky: have you checked iso for defects with MD5 sum?>
[15:44] <jburd> indian_munnda: yeah.
[15:44] <dmakalsky> gord_, can you please walk me through that?
[15:44] <indian_munnda> jburd: i gave u the info in private see and login dude
[15:44] <IndyGunFreak> i've never understood why people use mint
[15:44] <bazhang> why use mint? this is where it all happens ;]
[15:45] <IndyGunFreak> its like driving a pinto, painted like a corvette
[15:45] <bazhang> haha
[15:45] <jburd> indian_munnda: I didn't get any private messages.  Hold on.  My private messeages are blocked
[15:45] <gord_> <dmakalsky: ok, confirm u have Alternate i386  iso file?
[15:45] <jburd> a sec
[15:45] <shadow_> for flash support, for egsample. I cannot install it on ubuntu (tried and wasn't able to do it)
[15:45] <gnychis> whenever I try to do a dist upgrade using the update manager, and I click on "upgrade" ... it freezes, any ideas?
[15:45] <Frijolie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion still has you install Feisty repos
[15:46] <Mimi> Yeah gnychis use apt-get ^_^;
[15:46] <JDogHerman> any one know how to stop the error; sudo: unable to resolve host ...?
[15:46] <dmakalsky> gord_, yes
[15:46] <nibsa1242b> Any help for "no valid mirror found" message?
[15:46] <bazhang> JDogHerman: install when the servers are not overworked
[15:46] <dystopianray> shadow_: your distro is not supported here, you'll have to find help elsewhere
[15:46] <bazhang> nibsa1242b: the servers are under heavy strain atm
[15:46] <slytherin> Frijolie: you don't need that anymore, compiz is there by default
[15:47] <gord_> md5sum /path/to/the/iso/file/filename.iso
[15:47] <joeri_> Hi. I am trying to run the following code and get a local variable attribute not found, and I do not see why.
[15:47] <Mimi> bazhang, JDogHerman:  There's some good servers left, just go to Software Sources, and let it pick the best source for you, then it will be very fast.
[15:47] <JDogHerman> bazhang: it happens when I try to sudo anything
[15:47] <slytherin> shadow_: never heard anyone saying 'could not install flash'
[15:47] <bazhang> JDogHerman: sudo what for example
[15:47] <shadow_> wel i couldn't
[15:47] <JDogHerman> sudo nano
[15:47] <joeri_> list_var.each do |attribute|
[15:47] <gord_> <dmakalsky: md5sum /path/to/the/iso/file/filename.iso, then check it agains the md5 for that file, by looking at the md5s, i'll try to plingbot it now vvvvvvvvvv
[15:47] <gord_> !md5
[15:47] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:48] <slytherin> shadow_: what was the problem you faced?
[15:48] <joeri_> if attribute[1].is_a? String
[15:48] <Pilha> ok ppl, many thx for the help - worst case is I wait for the servers to lighten up :)
[15:48] <shadow_> thats mainly because i don't know what im doing most of the time :)
[15:48] <joeri_> Hmm. That wasn't a good way to write this.
[15:48] <histo> is there a fix for firefox going retarded and greying out?
[15:48] <shadow_> just wasn't able to install it. its not important anymore
[15:48] <JDogHerman> bazhag:sudo nano
[15:48] <nibsa1242b> bazhang: I understand they are under strain. Should I cancel my network upgrade or tell it its ok to update all gutsy entries to hardy?
[15:48] <gord_> dmakalsky: oops i was hoping for a  link to the acvtual md5 for u, 1 min
[15:48] <bazhang> shadow_: get ubuntu and then come back--we forgive your momentary straying from reason
[15:48] <clemyeats> shadow_: did you try envy/restricted_manager?
[15:48] <Frijolie> slytherin: yes, I know thanks
[15:48] <shadow_> yeah
[15:48] <bazhang> nibsa1242b: say its okay
[15:48] <CJS3141> Has anyone here used Foxit PDF Reader with Wine in Ubuntu?
[15:49] <pierramenta> Sibelle t'es où
[15:49] <gnychis> Mimi: do i need to do anything other than apt-get dist-upgrade?
[15:49] <timo> hi the driver manager says my nvidia driver is in use but nvidia-settings says http://pastebin.com/m7729ba9f
[15:49] <indian_munnda> jburd: did u got my private after u typed "test".
 yeah
[15:49] <bazhang> !fr | pierramenta
[15:49] <ubotu> pierramenta: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:49] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: are you using ubuntu 64bit?
[15:49] <shadow_> 32 bit
[15:49] <clemyeats> shadow_: what did envy say?
[15:49] <filthpig> hiya, how is hddvd/bluray playback in linux coming along?
[15:49] <tsh> Hey guys, I have a ubuntu hardy heron install on my laptop which is an acer ferrari 4000 it has an external 22" lcd samsung montior plugged into it.  I want compiz fusion + dual monitors + one big desktop with the external monitor situated to the left of the laptop monitor.  I am able to get dual monitor + one big desktop working and compiz working seperatly on its own.  However together its impossible i can get it to work, can
[15:49] <tsh>  anyone help  me out? my confs are: http://rafb.net/p/FkKGe116.html
[15:49] <nibsa1242b> bazhang: thanks
[15:49] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: he's on mint
[15:49] <Mimi> gnychis:  no you shoudlnt need anything else. make sure before you do that, to do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:49] <kernando> whats a irc program for ubuntu thats as close to possible like  MIRC 6.31
[15:49] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: then you must not have googled very hard, 5min worth wuld have showed you how to install flash
[15:49] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: yes, but he said he chose mint, because he couldn't install flash
[15:49] <afallenhope> do we seriously not have an apache package?
[15:49] <histo> !flash > shadow_
[15:50] <shadow_> http://two.xthost.info/helloo/envy-installer.log
[15:50] <histo> !envy
[15:50] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:50] <kernando> i;m using x-chat and i really dont like it
[15:50]  * IndyGunFreak still can't believe envy is in the hardy repos now.
[15:50] <slytherin> filthpig: you need some tweaks, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:50] <ere4si> !apache | afallenhope
[15:50] <ubotu> afallenhope: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[15:50] <pierramenta> Sibelle ça défile très vite
[15:50] <histo> kernando: ther are tons of other clients
[15:50] <histo> [/j #ubuntu+1
[15:50] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | histo
[15:50] <ubotu> histo: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[15:50] <JDogHerman> bazhag: any ideas?
[15:51] <gord_> dmakalsky:   here's a nice page on a bottleneck-free server :)  http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/386/how-to-safely-upgrade-your-ubuntu-to-hardy-heron-804/
[15:51] <bazhang> pierramenta: /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:51] <tawt> how many gigs should i give / and /home ?  I'm working with a 25gb partition
[15:51] <afallenhope> thanks
[15:51] <histo> tawt: thats were all your files will go.
[15:51] <kernando> histo im sure there are  i was just wondering if anyone knew one that resembles Mirc 6.31 for windows
 I found some guides, btu simply copyŲpaste didn't work, and I don't know how to do anything more that that
[15:51] <slytherin> kernando: you can use pidgin, but not sure if it is close to mirc
[15:51] <histo> tawt: basically / is for the system and software but all your saved data will reside in /home
[15:51] <clemyeats> shadow_: looks like envy couldn't manage to install dependencies it needed to run...
[15:51] <tawt> i know that / is the main files, and /home is my personal stuff
[15:51] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: i don't know, the instructions on adobe's site are pretty clear,
[15:51] <ere4si> kernando: try xchat
[15:51] <clemyeats> shadow_: maybe you could install these packages and then run envy again.
[15:51] <bazhang> tawt depends on you maybe /10 and /home 12 and the rest for boot and swap
[15:51] <kernando> heh thats what im using
 Ill try
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> clemyeats: why are you recomending envy?
 it wasn't as simple as that
[15:52] <dmakalsky> gord_, thanks.  md5 matches
[15:52] <dystopianray> tawt: I'd say maybe 8GB for / and the rest for /home, minux swap of course
[15:52] <clemyeats> shadow_: the logs tell you which packages to install.
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: if you say so, but i've installed ubuntu quite a few times on different machines, and it is as simple as that
[15:52] <gord_> dmakalsky: other than a MD5 error, maybe it wont work in a loop-mounted system due to needing "itself" during upgrade u see
 why not envy
[15:52] <slytherin> tawt: out of 25, 10 is sufficient for /
[15:52] <clemyeats> IndyGunFreak: because I think it's a good app.
[15:52] <gord_> dmakalsky: time tu burn it i think....
[15:52] <histo> exit
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> clemyeats: lol, and you're very miinformed
[15:52] <tawt> ok, thanks guys
[15:52] <IndyGunFreak> *misinformed
[15:52] <kthakore> #linux
[15:52] <clemyeats> IndyGunFreak: that's opinionated.
[15:52] <luqixi> zhen shi shen me ruanjiana
[15:53] <ToxicSoul2> So I have slight problem, after upgrading my numpad no longer works
[15:53] <dmakalsky> gord_, ok... thanks a lot
[15:53] <bazhang> !cn | luq
[15:53] <ubotu> luq: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
 I know it works on most machines... but didn't work on mine
[15:53] <bazhang> oops
[15:53] <IndyGunFreak> clemyeats: well, i'm certainly not in the minority on my opinion, and you are(at leats among those w/ common sense)
[15:53] <askand> Hi!
[15:53] <clemyeats> IndyGunFreak: yes, and a majority of people run Windows.
[15:53] <askand> I am having troubles with themes changing by themself..anyone else got that problem?
[15:53] <nibsa1242b> tawt: I highly recommend a /boot of ~500MB and a /var (2-4GB)
 whats wrong with envy?
[15:53] <fysa> I am stuck on 'Prepare partitions' with all options ghosted out and no partitions listed.
[15:53] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: if it works on most machines, but didn't work on yours, then that suggests you did something wrong
[15:53] <j0lliyo> server -m irc.homelien.no
[15:53] <gord_> ubuntu envy
[15:53] <IndyGunFreak> shadow_: you'll find out.
[15:54] <bazhang> !ot | shadow_
[15:54] <ubotu> shadow_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:54] <IndyGunFreak> install away
[15:54] <gord_> haha sorry wrong knb ppl :(
[15:54] <dystopianray> shadow_: envy is not supported here and neither is your distribution
[15:54] <bazhang> dystopianray: though envyng is for hardy
[15:54] <slytherin> nibsa1242b: shouldn't he instead have a single / for about 10 GB?
[15:54] <clemyeats> shadow_: there's nothing wrong with Envy and as far as drivers as concerned your system is the same as Gutsy.
[15:54] <dystopianray> bazhang: envy is not supported at all in any way by ubuntu
[15:55] <clemyeats> shadow_: you're missing dependencies, all you need is to install them.
[15:55] <bazhang> dystopianray: then why is it in the repos?
[15:55] <RoiG> hello all
[15:55] <dystopianray> bazhang: really? it is??
 thanks, ill try
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> dystopianray: it is in Hardy
[15:55] <dystopianray> interesting
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> i still don't trust it.
[15:55] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | dystopianray
[15:55] <ubotu> dystopianray: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[15:55] <gnychis> whenever I try to hit "upgrade" to upgrade to 8.04 LTS in the Update Manager, the update manager freezes, how else can I do a full dist upgrade?
[15:55] <jones> i have recently upgraded to ubuntu 8.04. i was using AWN before no issues. I have reinstalled it using the bzr. i am able to add launchers to the dock but they will not actually launch an app when clicked. any ideas as to what could be causing this issue. thanks\
[15:55] <Turms_gutsy> tawt in my opinion it is better if you do not put /home in a differente partition
[15:55] <koudelka> anyone know where i can find minimal install cd for ubuntu 8.04?
[15:55] <clemyeats> yes, by the way Envy is now in the Ubuntu repos.
[15:55] <mindframe-> why can't I access sites with self signed certs?  when I go to a site with a self-signed cert it says: blank.com uses an invalid security certificate.  The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed.  (Error code: sec_error_ca_cert_invalid).  It doesn't give me the option to add an exception or allow the site in any way.  How can I fix this?
[15:55] <nibsa1242b> slytherin: /var doesn't need to be huge... and a separate /boot is important; if something happens and / fills up to 95% space use the system will refuse to boot. I had this happen once because of a log file that took up 50GB (since I didn't have a sep /var)
[15:55] <mindframe-> (this is firefox)
[15:56] <slytherin> gnychis: is it really freeze or is it lot of processing?
[15:56] <IndyGunFreak> clemyeats: only for hardy, not for anything older, and that still doesn't mean its gonna work properly... i'm not holding my breath
[15:56] <dystopianray> mindframe-: provide an example
[15:56] <pierramenta> Sibelle tu t'es fait enlevé par qui
[15:56] <mindframe-> a website?
[15:56] <gribouille> hi
[15:56] <gribouille> does ubuntu support xeon ?
[15:56] <dystopianray> mindframe-: yes
[15:56] <ushaba> upgrading to hardy basically hosed my system: can't get x working, kernel panic for the new kernel, can only boot into safe mode under an older kernel and can't get wireless working from the commandline; anyone able to help?
[15:56] <bazhang> !minimal | koudelka
[15:56] <ubotu> koudelka: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[15:56] <clemyeats> IndyGunFreak: it's been in Mint for a while and people like it more than restricted manager according to the latest polls.
[15:56] <dystopianray> gribouille: xeon cpus? yes
[15:56] <RoiG> guys im having problems updating 7.10 -> 8.04 anyone can help me?
[15:56] <slytherin> nibsa1242b: I agree with separate /boot, but don't think separate /var is needed for a desktop user
[15:57] <gnychis> slytherin: its CPU usage is 0
[15:57] <Paavi2_0>  !fr | pierramenta
[15:57] <ubotu> pierramenta: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:57] <elfer> fgdfgdfg
[15:57] <elfer> fdgdfgdfg
[15:57] <elfer> fgdfg
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> clemyeats: well polls said John kerry was gonna cream george bush
[15:57] <koudelka> bazhang, i'm asking because it's not there...
[15:57] <elfer> fdgdfgdfgdf
[15:57] <bazhang> koudelka: not sure if the hardy are there but that will be the place when they are
[15:57] <clemyeats> ah well..
[15:57] <amenado> RoiG->   the server side is extremely busy, you may have the perception it is unresponsive and not working..
[15:57] <koudelka> bazhang,  you know anything when it will be out? i know there was some for the beta
[15:57] <Turms_gutsy> slytherin: why do you agree for a separate /boot partition, what is it for?
[15:57] <slytherin> gnychis: probably waiting for mirror to respond. You can try command do-release-upgrade from terminal
[15:58] <Koheleth> is there a short cut to bring yp a cursor that kills a program like in kde?
[15:58] <afallenhope> I'm having a hard time finding LAMP or Apache for that matter
[15:58] <bazhang> koudelka: is this from another system? you might try unetbootin
[15:58] <Turms_gutsy> slytherin: it was only needed many years ago for the 1024th cylinder problem
[15:58] <nibsa1242b> slytherin: I don't think its an absolute necessity, however, it doesn't hurt. My log file filling up actually happened on a laptop. There was a bug with the card reader and it logged about 1GB of error per hour.
[15:58] <slytherin> Turms_gutsy: check the reason specified by nibsa1242b just above my comment
[15:58] <rconan> so... I've asked this a few times already and not found anyone yet. Anyone installed hardy onto a FakeRAID? I had a few problems trying to before
[15:58] <bazhang> Koheleth: xkill
[15:58] <El1> Is it normal that, altho I have never upgraded from beta to final version of hardy heron, I am already running the final version according to alternative CD?
[15:58] <Koheleth> ok
[15:58] <RoiG> amenado -> it's not the server i downloaded the CD version, but when it is calculating the changes, it says an error (sorry for my poor english).
[15:58] <RodGo> anybody here uses amsn? because ive just intalled ubuntu hardy and amsn 0.97 and managed to get it working
[15:59] <gnychis> slytherin: that hangs at "Checking for a new ubuntu release 0%" ... maybe i should try to switch mirrors?
[15:59] <bazhang> El1: you updated all the way? then yes you will be on final
[15:59] <RodGo> the problem is that when i try to change my display pic, the program closes my ubuntu session and i get my login screen again :S
[15:59] <mindframe-> dystopianray, https://beans.mindframe.org/
[15:59] <koudelka> bazhang, nah, i just like to have a minicd laying around whenever i need to do a reinstall
[15:59] <Turms_gutsy> slytherin: well, it is 10 years i use linux, and never had the need to have /boot in a separate partition
[15:59] <nibsa1242b> El1: normally the beta or RC automatically updates to final after release
[15:59] <slytherin> gnychis: that is what I would suggest
[15:59] <RodGo> and have no clue on how to fix this issue
[15:59] <El1> Ok, thanks for the info
[15:59] <ideal_loco> strftime
[15:59] <RodGo> anybody is going trough the same?
[15:59] <Koheleth> bazhang: thanks
[15:59] <dystopianray> mindframe-: it's password protected
[15:59] <toresn> do any on you use 'music on console (moc)'?
[15:59] <bazhang> koudelka: should turn up in a few days; will keep an eye pealed for you
[15:59] <darren_> hi i am having a problem vewing video's on the net is their any plugins i need to fix the problem
[15:59] <mosno> Turms_gutsy: try running full-disk encryption LUKS/LVM --- /boot comes in handy in this instance :)
[16:00] <mindframe-> dystopianray, oh i thought it might offer the cert before that
[16:00] <dystopianray> mindframe-: nevermind i see the error now
[16:00] <nibsa1242b> Turms_gutsy: slytherin then you are lucky Turms; I always put it in a separate partition
[16:00] <red_> wow, installing dependencies for limewire pro eats up all cores of my core 2 duo e4600 cpu...
[16:00] <tawt> ok, so i just made a new partition for my /home.  it's asking for the location of the partition, either "Beginning" or "End."  Which is a better choice?
[16:00] <El1> darren_: your firefox just crashes when you are trying to vieuw a flash video?
[16:00] <ushaba> upgrading to hardy basically hosed my system: can't get x working, kernel panic for the new kernel, can only boot into safe mode under an older kernel and can't get wireless working from the commandline; anyone able to help?
[16:00] <darren_> ya
[16:00] <mem_oro_76> gparted question: what does a "Can't have overlapping partitions" error mean?
[16:00] <El1> darren_: try killall pulseaudio in terminal, see if that helps
[16:00] <amenado> ushaba-> install the older 7.10 and be happy for now..
[16:01] <nibsa1242b> ushaba: if you had a separate /home you can just do a clean install and be done with it
[16:01] <gord_> df -H
[16:01] <bazhang> mem_oro_76: exactly what it says
[16:01] <mindframe-> dystopianray, ive been searching through about:config to see if theres something that causes this.  no luck yet.
[16:01] <sipior> mem_oro_76: just what it says. partitions can't overlap each other on disk. check the end and beginning cylinder numbers
[16:01] <tawt> ok, so i just made a new partition for my /home.  it's asking for the location of the partition, either "Beginning" or "End."  Which is a better choice?
[16:01] <gord_> <needs coffee and a lie down if making mistakes like that
[16:01] <OllieA> How do I finmd
[16:01] <amenado> tawt-> beginning
[16:01] <tawt> thanks
[16:01] <bazhang> gord_: haha
[16:01]  * slytherin time to leave
[16:01] <ov1d1u_nitan> where I can find an IRC client for GTK? (but not X-Chat)
[16:02] <OllieA> How do I find out what my graphcs card is in Hardy?
[16:02] <ov1d1u_nitan> with the Mirc look-n-feel
[16:02] <fysa> I am stuck on 'Prepare partitions' with all options ghosted out and no partitions listed.  It seems no drives are detected.
[16:02] <lynxie> cool, ubuntu 8.04 lts under vmware :)
[16:02] <tawt> olliea   lspci in terminal
[16:02] <darren_> nothn was runnin under pulseaudio
[16:02] <OllieA> tawt: Cheers
[16:02] <bazhang> mirc via wine if you must ov1d1u_nitan
[16:02] <amenado> OllieA-> it should be the same as in gutsy? lest you changed your hardware
[16:02] <Turms_gutsy> mosno: ok, i never had the need to use luks, so you may be right, but for a normal user (as the 99% are) there is no need to have /boot in a separate partition
[16:02] <andycr> ov1d1u_nitan: Pidgin works with IRC
[16:02] <RodGo> hey anybody here uses amsn 0.97 with ubuntu hardy?
[16:02] <ov1d1u_nitan> ok, thanks andycr
[16:02] <askand> No more bugs are being fixed in hardy unless they are security- or critical bugs? True or false?
[16:03] <nibsa1242b> OllieA: lspci | grep [ati, nvidia, intel, etc] or just lspci if the manufacturer name doesn't show up
[16:03] <red_> wow, installing dependencies for limewire pro eats up all cores of my core 2 duo e4600 cpu..and my system is not sending packets to the net. is this a bug?
[16:03] <CaptainMorgan> I see a bug wasn't fixed in Hardy- I have a top panel that is set to not expand, top and hide upon hitting a button... upon a system restart, from 7.04 to now 8.04 that panel when started is directly above the bottom panel- to get it back into position, the same sequence of steps need to be followed EVERY time. Right Click panel > Check Expand > Select Top > Check Expand again(so that it now doesn't expand) any ideas why this
[16:03] <CaptainMorgan>  wasn't fixed ?
[16:03] <Kcaj> Hey guys!
[16:03] <Kcaj> Ubuntu is going SO GREAT!
[16:03] <bazhang> askand: this is not the channel to ask in
[16:03] <El1> darren_: just try killall pulseaudio and see if firefox still crashes when you're trying to view a video
[16:03] <mem_oro_76> sipior: is that the same as sectors? cause I got a tiny partition that refuses to die
[16:03] <mosno> Turms_gutsy: /boot is also handy if you decide to get rid of Ubuntu but you want your bootloader to not break (you just leave /boot alone)
[16:03] <Kcaj> Is there a good IRC Daemon for Ubuntu I can get with SYnaptics?
[16:03] <Kcaj> Especially if it is easy to set up
[16:03] <askand> ﻿ bazhang: why not?
[16:03] <darren_> their was no processes killed whin i did that though
[16:03] <amenado> CaptainMorgan-> low on priority list?
[16:03] <cemc> hi
[16:03] <RoiG> i dont know what i have to do, help me please, when i try to update it pops this error: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[16:03] <mem_oro_76> sipior: maybe that's what's causing the error
[16:03] <mosno> Turms_gutsy: apart from that i don't think i've had a real need for a separate /boot
[16:03] <CaptainMorgan> amenado, it's quite annoying...
[16:03] <bazhang> because we are not the bug triagers askand
[16:04] <cemc> what's the best way to increase bash history file limit globally?
[16:04] <CaptainMorgan> amenado, maybe it's not even on the list ?
[16:04] <tech0007> when is ibex coming out?
[16:04] <askand> ﻿bazhang: I see, ubuntu-bugs?
[16:04] <amenado> CaptainMorgan-> well you can access the source code and try to fix it yourself?
[16:04] <Turms_gutsy> mosno: i agree with you :-D
[16:04] <bazhang> !bug | askand
[16:04] <ubotu> askand: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[16:04] <sipior> mem_oro_76: might be, but a bit odd that you can't destroy the partition. does it have a special type?
[16:04] <amenado> CaptainMorgan-> or wait til someone have time to work on it
[16:04] <leprasmurf> so how many reports have there been of nvidia drivers screwing up now?
[16:04] <OllieA> How do I install a graphics card driver?
[16:04] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys has any one noticed that the sound is can become choppy when you are using firefox.
[16:04] <gnychis> whenever I try to hit "upgrade" to upgrade to 8.04 LTS in the Update Manager, the update manager freezes, how else can I do a full dist upgrade? i tried do-release-upgrade and it freezes at "Checking for a new ubuntu release 0% [Working]"  .... i tried switching mirrors too, no luck
[16:05] <andycr> Are the apt servers for gutsy completely smashed for anyone else? I can't get any packages.
[16:05] <nibsa1242b> OllieA: what card do you have?
[16:05] <nlindblad> OllieA: What card?
[16:05] <nlindblad> OllieA: ATi or Nvidia?
[16:05] <OllieA> nlindblad: 2 secs
[16:05] <mindframe-> andycr, yeah im sure theyre quite busy
[16:05] <bazhang> andycr: that is the #1 question today
[16:05] <nlindblad> OllieA: Know how to check?
[16:05] <sipior> andycr: try another mirror...
[16:05] <darren_> ok the video is playing verry choppy
[16:05] <nibsa1242b> gnychis: the servers are swamped... if you let it sit there for an hour or so it'll probably unfreeze
[16:05] <nlindblad> OllieA: Try lspci and see if the kernel recognises it
[16:05] <amenado> gnychis->    the server side is extremely busy, you may have the perception it is unresponsive and not working..
[16:05] <mem_oro_76> sipior: it says filesystem unknown - it was formatted as hfs+ before but all I want to do is wipe it completely so I can make a new partition
[16:05] <andycr> sipior: A mirror for apt? I'm not sure how I would add a mirror to sources.list.
[16:05] <ushaba> i'm debating a clean install
[16:06] <ushaba> but the cd burner on the other laptop is dead
[16:06] <ushaba> haha
[16:06] <sagredo> hi, can someone point me to 8.04 sources.list
[16:06] <gnychis> amenado: nibsa1242b: i see... is it possible to upgrade via bittorrent?
[16:06] <gribouille> does ubuntu support itanium ?
[16:06] <amenado> ushaba dont include us in your debate,
[16:06] <ushaba> i'll do some research on getting wireless working from the commandline first
[16:06] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: Linux can't read hfs+ fully, but without the journal it should work
[16:06] <ushaba> back in a bit
[16:06] <darren_> and i can't do anything at all with firefox
[16:06] <RoiG> When i try to update from 7.10 to 8.04 i get this error "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.. "
[16:06] <koro> i have a fat32 drive added to my fstab so that it is automounted, and i have a link to a folder in it in my gnome desktop, but always the first time i click on that folder it takes a few seconds to open up the folder, anyone knows why this happens?
[16:06] <darren_> while playing video
[16:06] <RoiG> solutions?
[16:06] <daemon3> Looks to me like the servers are still overloaded.
[16:06] <bazhang> !slow | RoiG
[16:06] <ubotu> RoiG: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[16:06] <OllieA> nlindblad: PMed you
[16:06] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: If you just want to format it with another filesystem that is easy
[16:07] <Turms_gutsy> mosno: as for the bootloader, well, it is not a problem, i have a floppy disk for it, to be frank in 10 yrs i did not see the need to have /boot in a separate partition, i have /home/myuser/documents in a separate partition so i can share it with different distro's
[16:07] <nibsa1242b> gnychis: you could torrent the alt install CD (or the desktop / alt install DVD) however, I was told if you go that route packages that aren't on the cd/dvd could break during upgrade
[16:07] <daemon3> Are the servers usually overloaded for Ubuntu?
[16:07] <techqbert> I have 51 packages held back up apt-get upgrade, no worries?
[16:07] <Kcaj> Is there a good IRC Daemon for Ubuntu I can get with SYnaptics?
[16:07] <techqbert> daemon3: No.
[16:07] <mem_oro_76> nlindblad: i know but I don't even want it to, I want a clean slate so I can format ext3 and fat32 but, this tiny partition won't go away
[16:07] <gribouille> does ubuntu support itanium ?
[16:07] <sipior> andycr: just edit the sources.list to point at another mirror. i think there's also a command-line program to do this, though the name currently escapes me.
[16:07] <leprasmurf> hello all, I've attempted to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, my nvidia drivers crapped out on me.  I had to revert to the legacy drivers.  is there some new proceedure that I don't know about?
[16:07] <bazhang> on the day after release yes daemon3
[16:07] <techqbert> daemon3: 8.04 just launched.
[16:07] <Kcaj> The Ubuntu servers were VERY FAST until abut Noon (EST) Yesterday... lol
[16:07] <daemon3> techqbert: I know.
[16:07] <tech0007> i upgraded from gutsy to hardy and i still have the old /etc/fstab. does hardy still use fstab?
[16:07] <elektronik123> who had a WC in Pc
[16:08] <elektronik123> ?
[16:08] <darren_> whell gata go to work be back in about 8 hours
[16:08] <amenado> Kcaj-> blame it on me, i was downloading..hehe
[16:08] <RoiG> i get this error when im trying to upgrade from the CD not the servers..
[16:08] <rwycuff> Kcaj: there should be some just search the ubuntu community docs for them and how to install
[16:08] <nibsa1242b> gnychis: I will tell you that after the system updated sat for about 20min looking like it was dead, it started functioning properly for me, and with my local mirror it looks like I'll be done downloading everything I need with a total time of under two hours
[16:08] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: What kind of device is it?
[16:08] <k[5\5]> 804 started
[16:08] <ov1d1u_nitan> when I try to install nextaw, apt-get says:
[16:08] <ov1d1u_nitan> ﻿Package nextaw is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:08] <ov1d1u_nitan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[16:08] <ov1d1u_nitan> is only available from another source
[16:08] <bazhang> RoiG: the cd? you mean the alternate cd--they use the mirrors too
[16:08] <FloodBot2> ov1d1u_nitan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: Wiping it clean would mean to completely overwrite the partition table
[16:08] <ov1d1u_nitan> what can I do?
[16:08] <mem_oro_76> nlindblad: and the rest of the free space won't partition as anything cuse of this overlapping partitions error
[16:08] <Kcaj> rwycuff: I'm looking for one that I can get through Synaptics, I'l tell you how it goes
[16:09] <mem_oro_76> it's a USB harddrive
[16:09] <Calin24> I'm trying to upgrade from gutsy to heron, but synaptic locks up every time i click on update.... any suggestions?
[16:09] <amenado> RoiG-> how do you know its getting the update from the CD and not remotely? how did you verify this?
[16:09] <bazhang> !paste | ov1d1u_nitan
[16:09] <ubotu> ov1d1u_nitan: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:09] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: cat /dev/zero > /dev/device would overwrite everything
[16:09] <kernando> in ubuntu cant i have  a lan connection and my wireless connection running at the same time?
[16:09] <lirit> where is the trash folder?
[16:09] <CaptainMorgan> amenado, thankfully it looks like someone has noticed it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/217514
[16:09] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: fdisk could then re-create the partition table and let you make differently sized partitions
[16:09] <dystopianray> kernando: yes you can, but i don't think network-manager supports it
[16:09] <bazhang> kernando: not practically
[16:09] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: Which you could then put filesystems on
[16:09] <CaptainMorgan> it's reversed in my situation- I'm surprised nobody noticed it earlier... that bug report is for this month
[16:09] <Nith> is there a way to md5sum a directory recursively?
[16:09] <kernando> hmmmmm
[16:09] <amenado> CaptainMorgan-> alright..keep the person on the other end happy, send em cookies and pizza..hehe
[16:09] <RoiG> amenado -> because when updating from the CD you can select if install the updated packets from internet or use the ones from CD?
[16:10] <CaptainMorgan>  and it's not a Hardy-specific bug
[16:10] <b1n0ry> how do i know that i'm on LTS and not RC?
[16:10] <mem_oro_76> nlindblad: OK, thanks for pointing me in the right
,chang your source ,replace gusty to hardy
[16:10] <ToxicSoul2> Hey does anyone have any idea why my number keypad would stop working after upgrading? Keyboard - sun type 6
[16:10] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys has any one noticed that the sound is can become choppy when you are using firefox.
[16:10] <nibsa1242b> Calin24: the servers are swamped; first make sure you are using a mirror; then just allow the Update manager to sit there for a long time (20-60min)and it'll probably start working
[16:10] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: No problem
[16:10] <ov1d1u_nitan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64374/
[16:10]  * delcoyote hi
[16:10] <kernando> because i just want to be able to ftp through to my other pc sometimes without having to disable my internet
[16:10] <ov1d1u_nitan> here are the output
[16:10] <amenado> RoiG-> how do you verify this? did you look at the scripts on what it does?
[16:10] <lirit> where is the trash folder in the file system?
[16:10] <mem_oro_76> nlindblad: cat /dev/zero?? what does that do?
[16:10] <ov1d1u_nitan> what can I do?
[16:10] <rwycuff> Kcaj: im not sure if Unrealircd is in ther ebut its more commong
[16:10] <mlw1> how is this release an improvement?  Everything that was working for me is broken.  I get more error messages than windows, I can't drag icons without it freezing, and I can't even quit without it freezing what's up with this...
[16:10] <nlindblad> mem_oro_76: It's a constant stream of zeroes (0000)
[16:10] <Calin24> alright.. thanks
[16:10] <plik> kernando: sudo ifconfig to set up your other interface manually
[16:11] <JDogHerman> any one know how to stop the error; sudo: unable to resolve host ...?
[16:11] <RoiG> amenado -> i unplugged my wired ethernet connection and its the same. its not the servers its a problem with something of the update.
[16:11] <amenado> RoiG-> and if it finds the ones on the cd is older ..do you know if it attempts to retrieve from the archive?
[16:11] <k[5\5]> i met the same problem like you
[16:11] <emivan_> #ubuntu-br
[16:11] <mariocesar_bo> hey there... i need help with my wirless... i need to know how i can mount a  USB zew2502
[16:11] <k[5\5]> but now in 804
[16:11] <tech0007> lirit: ~/.local/share/Trash
[16:11] <b1n0ry> mlw1: did you verify that your hardware was all compatible before the upgrade?
[16:11] <nibsa1242b> Calin24: thats what I'm doing and it seems to be working... they key point is to use a local mirror and not the "main server"
[16:11] <lirit> tech0007: thanks
[16:11] <afallenhope> I think my package manager is broken
[16:11] <afallenhope> lol
[16:11] <bazhang> mlw1 ah he left
[16:12] <amenado> RoiG-> i asked you, did you have a chance to look at the scripts in how it upgrades? maybe it does look to the net too if it cant resolve ?
[16:12] <mariocesar_bo> ﻿hey there... i need help with my wirless... i need to know how i can mount a  USB zew2502
[16:12] <MrDakoki> ﻿m looking foward for X11/extensions/XTest.h
[16:12] <MrDakoki> ﻿i need it in my app but i dont know where hell it is!
[16:12] <MrDakoki> synaptic can install perfectly a program that uses this library
[16:12] <MrDakoki> how i can find it?
[16:12] <FloodBot2> MrDakoki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:12] <RoiG> amenado -> wait
[16:12] <ov1d1u_nitan> can somebody tell me how to solve that? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64374/
[16:12] <XaMuleAduGuest21>  i am having problem with azureus, i cant download anithing and i got errors when i test my ports. I have a wired connection without router (fastweb) and i use ubuntu, anyone may help me'? :)
[16:12] <connor_> hey i just got ubuntu 8.04 wheres the media tab in removable drivers and media gone
[16:12] <ToxicSoul2> patience mariocesar_bo
[16:12] <kernando> plik how would i know which one is my lan connection...ath0,eth0, lo
[16:13] <andycr> MrDakoki: Look through synaptic for something starting with "libx". It should be one of those.
[16:13] <El1> Hi guys, each time I install my nvidia drivers on heron, after I restart X, it says it can't find drivers or something and tells me to run in low-resolution. When I try to select nvidia drivers from there, it just fails, altho driver install went just perfectly, can anyone help me with this problem?
[16:13] <mariocesar_bo> ﻿hey there... i need help with my wirless... i need to know how i can mount a  USB zew2502
[16:13] <bazhang> kernando: ath0 is wireless eth0 is wired
[16:13] <amenado> MrDakoki-> i'd make google as my friend, if not in your cdrom or on your hd, you may have to download
[16:13] <nikitis> So umm, where are all of the repositories for 8.04?
[16:13] <kernando> bazhang thanks
[16:13] <andycr> MrDakoki: You want the ones ending in -dev
[16:13] <monomo> can some1 confirm that Netbeans 6.0 works on 8.04 ?
[16:13] <bazhang> mariocesar_bo: what chipset
[16:13] <Kcaj> Someone called me a Chronic Offender. How can I battle them?
[16:13] <needcdrom> hey guys - I am trying to upgrade, however it complains that I either have a pre-release version, or have unofficial packages. what should I do?
[16:13] <mosno> Turms_gutsy: that's a good idea
[16:14] <hilts50> I've installed 8.04 three times now on an external HD from my macbook pro...  After install it asks to restart.  I do so and am not able to boot to the Ubuntu install on the external.  Anyone else having this issue?
[16:14] <plik> Kcaj: Offend them Chronically
[16:14] <IndyGunFreak> needcdrom: your name says it all.
[16:14] <lirit> the font in gnome-terminal in hardy is not clear. how can I fix it?
[16:14] <mariocesar_bo> how i can know that?
[16:14] <b1n0ry> monomo: I can confirm
[16:14] <MrDakoki> andycr i have installed all of them
[16:14] <amenado> kernando-> do verify, use iwconfig  to list what is wireless, ifconfig for wired
[16:14] <bazhang> needcdrom: please pastebin your sources.list
[16:14] <Kcaj> lol :)
[16:14] <Batch> I'm having trouble with my wireless, The drivers ARE installed but the blue light doesn't come on.. I'm using ndiswrapper.. Any suggestions?
[16:14] <MrDakoki> i can see the source
[16:14] <sagredo> does anyone know where a sources.list for Hardy can be found?
[16:14] <MrDakoki> just i need the path
[16:14] <andycr> MrDakoki: Did you install libxext-dev?
[16:14] <emivan_> #ubuntu-pt
[16:14] <b1n0ry> monomo: I'm running NB 6.0.1 and NB 6.1 RC2
[16:14] <needcdrom> IndyGunFreak: I'm using the alt cd to upgrade btw :)
[16:14] <IndyGunFreak> you probably just need to disable some sources
[16:14] <El1> monomo: yup it works
[16:14] <connor_> just install 8.04 wheres the media tab in removable drives and media gone?
[16:14] <Kcaj> Oh crap
[16:14] <david567> hello
[16:14] <MrDakoki> i have a linker error in eclipse
[16:14] <needcdrom> bazhang: pastbinning..
[16:14] <Kcaj> The servers are like DOWN
 /etc/apt/
[16:14] <trait> sagredo, what do you need?
[16:14] <david567> what do i need to know before i upgrade to hardy?
[16:14] <andycr> MrDakoki: You got the -dev libraries, and not just the normal ones?
[16:14] <quentusrex> with the new Hardy release I can't even get apt-get to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:14] <bazhang> sagredo: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:14] <Kcaj> I'm trying to install an ircd and the download rate is UNKNOWN haha
[16:14] <ere4si> sagredo: /etc/apt/sourcs.list - it should be
[16:14] <ov1d1u_nitan> Package nextaw is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[16:15] <ov1d1u_nitan> what's mean that?
[16:15] <amenado> MrDakoki-> you have the path? its inside the jar file?
[16:15] <ToxicSoul2> So.. does anyone have any idea why my number pad now controls my mouse instead of.. being a number pad? Sun Type 6 Keyboard
[16:15] <sagredo> trait: I tried to do a Update Manager to Hardy and it said to check my internet connection
[16:15] <RodGo> hi all i am having problems with my amsn display pic
[16:15] <ramkumar> ﻿anyone else having audio issues with hardy?
[16:15] <dystopianray> Nith: something like this maybe: find directory/ -exec md5sum {} \;
[16:15] <sagredo> I'd rather just apt-get
[16:15] <tech0007> connor_: its in nautilus Edit->Preferences
[16:15] <RodGo> i think this is my error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amsn/+bug/190531
[16:15] <Dr_willis> quentusrex,  the servers are taking a big hammering right now i imagine.
[16:15] <monomo> b1n0ry: thanx!
[16:15] <RodGo> any ideas on how to fix that ?
[16:15] <Kcaj> ToxicSoul2: Try to change your keyboard configuration
[16:15] <trait> why not install with cd?
[16:15] <trait> sagredo,
[16:15] <DBautell> ToxicSoul2, You probably need to find accessability options
[16:15] <connor_> sorry wheres nautilius
[16:15] <sagredo> trait: I don't want to take the time to burn it
[16:15] <trait> :)
[16:15] <Kcaj> It is nice that the keyboard can be the mouse though, never knew that
[16:15] <tech0007> connor_: Places->Home Folder
[16:16] <trait> so.. ich cannot help you
 change source manually ,and dist-upgrade
[16:16] <connor_> thanks
[16:16] <Kcaj> How many times have I been mouseless trying to operate a GUI? :( Too many.
[16:16] <andycr> Where can I find a list of apt mirrors?
[16:16] <b1n0ry> connor_: nautilus is the file explorer
[16:16] <Batch> I'm having trouble with my wireless, The drivers ARE installed but the blue light doesn't come on.. I'm using ndiswrapper.. Any suggestions??
[16:16] <Kcaj> On screen keyboard helps too, for when you have 1 mouse, 0 keyboards
[16:16] <hilts50> Has anyone successfully been able to install Hardy on an external FW drive and boot to it with a macbook pro?
[16:16] <sagredo> k[5\5]: do you know where the hardy sources can located? That's what I intend to do
[16:16] <l3on> Hi all, Intrepid repo already exist ?
[16:16] <bazhang> andycr in synaptic
[16:16] <connor_> yeh i just realised im such a noob
[16:16] <ere4si> connor_: nautilus is the file manager - open your home folder and you're using it
[16:16] <ToxicSoul2> DBautell, thats it awesome. thanks!
[16:16] <Kcaj> congrats
 /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:17] <bazhang> l3on: funny but offtopic (and NO)
[16:17] <needcdrom> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64378/ I'm mounting the alt cd iso and trying to upgrade from that (worked on my other machine)
[16:17] <b1n0ry> connor_ noobs are cool in my book, what others call noobs, i call "new converts"
[16:17] <Kcaj> I wish some stuff in Linux didn't have names... haha.
[16:17] <hassan> did any one try Hardy,what about it?
[16:17] <connor_> i love 8.04 by the way
[16:17] <nikitis> What's the status of the Hardy repositories?
[16:17] <andycr> bazhang: Thanks, found it
[16:17] <l3on> bazhang: tnx for info :) bye bye
[16:17] <Kcaj> I'm downloading
[16:17] <Kcaj> at 755 bytes per second
[16:17] <andycr> Now I can install the nVidia driver I've been trying to install for the last hour...
[16:17] <CyberCod> what is the deal with wubi???
[16:17] <nikitis> Kcaj, go torrent, you can get the whole thing in 20 mins
[16:17] <connor_> dont use wubi
[16:17] <b1n0ry> Kcaj: mirror.anl.gov has a 2GB pipeline, it's tirggered for ubuntu but i'm still getting 175-200k
[16:17] <Kcaj> No
[16:17] <connor_> it sucks
[16:18] <DBautell> ToxicSoul2, you're the second person to ask that while I've been paying attention... Not a bad guess, I guess
[16:18] <Kcaj> I'm not getting Ubuntu
[16:18] <connor_> its slow as hell
[16:18] <CyberCod> you're telling me???
[16:18] <Batch> I'm having trouble with my wireless, The drivers ARE installed but the blue light doesn't come on.. I'm using ndiswrapper.. Any suggestions?
[16:18] <Kcaj> I'm just getting ircd
[16:18] <kernando> ok well where do i find the commands for ifconfig then?
[16:18] <CyberCod> its not that it is slow
[16:18] <iusegnulinux> try another mirror
[16:18] <timo> Can any one help with a nvidia driver please
[16:18] <connor_> it installs ubuntu into the windows boot.ini file
[16:18] <bazhang> needcdrom: this is to gutsy or from gutsy to hardy? your sources.list are all gutsy
[16:18] <hardff> well sorry to gripe like but I cant see how you droped a RC when so many issues's exsit in multimedia related areas.. yea sure its not affecting every one who happenes to have slightly better sound card then AC97 wooly mamoth shite
[16:18] <Kcaj> kernando: go to a terminal
[16:18] <yacc> Ok, just wondering, who is responsible for Python package policies on Ubuntu? Or are these just passed along from Debian?
[16:18] <Kcaj> and type ifconfig --help
[16:18] <yacc> *wonder*
[16:18] <emivan_> \j #ubuntu-pt
[16:18] <kernando> yeah im in a terminal
[16:18] <mariocesar_bo> ﻿hey there... i need help with my wirless... i need to know how i can mount a  USB zew2502 please
[16:18] <CyberCod> it is that it tried to start up the partitioner in LiveCD mode off the wubi install
[16:18] <kernando> ado do sudo ifconfig
[16:18] <r3m0t> hello folks, is LVPM coming to 8.04 soon?
[16:18] <emivan_> \j #ubuntu-br
[16:18] <andycr> Batch: On my laptop the wifi works fine but the light never comes on. It varies by card. If it works, you don't have anything to worry about.
[16:18] <Kcaj> Oh btw
[16:18] <Kcaj> kernando
[16:18] <Kcaj> You need to configure the devices
[16:18] <Kcaj> like eth0
[16:18] <bazhang> mariocesar_bo: what is the chipset
[16:18] <FloodBot2> Kcaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:18] <needcdrom> bazhang: it's from gutsy to hardy (using the alternate cd)
[16:19] <Batch> andycr: It doesnt work, Thats the problem, And eth1 has dissapeared
[16:19] <kernando> there must be a link to a faq on this somewhere
[16:19] <timo> ﻿emivan_: idiot /join
[16:19] <matthijs> where can i find the dutch ubuntu channel
[16:19] <bazhang> needcdrom: and it is timing out?
[16:19] <Kcaj> kernando: google ifconfg
[16:19] <dunnix> Is there anyone having issues connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com to install packages? (91.182.92.3)
[16:19] <mariocesar_bo> hey bazhang... how i can know thata?
[16:19] <nikitis> kernando, man ifconfig
[16:19] <bazhang> timo easy on the name calling thanks
[16:19] <matthijs> where can i find the dutch ubuntu channel
[16:19] <andycr> dunnix: Everyone is
[16:19] <needcdrom> bazhang: no, it gives me an error message (doing it again so I can copy exactly what the messsage says)
[16:19] <bazhang> lsusb mariocesar_bo
[16:19] <Dr_willis> kernando,  the man pages exist for ifconfig, and its use/exmaples documented all over the web.
[16:19] <niteye> how is the DVD version different than the CD version
[16:19] <iusegnulinux> /usr/sbin/ifconfig
[16:19] <neeto> Is there a way to completely disable the tootip at the login screen? ("Type your information, for a menu press F10...")
[16:19] <andycr> dunnix: You can install using a mirror if you wish
[16:19] <timo> I cant get the driver to work :-*
[16:19] <dunnix> andycr: Ah just getting hit hard?
[16:20] <DG19075> dunix, sounds like all the servers are getting hammered as ppl try to upgrade
[16:20] <genii> !nl | matthijs
[16:20] <ubotu> matthijs: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[16:20] <niteye> why is there a DVD image only of the previous kubuntu version? but not the newest one?
[16:20] <lirit> no sub-pixel in gnome-terminal. anyone else have this problem? any fix?
[16:20] <kernando> cooll thanks
[16:20] <iusegnulinux> it ll be there soon
[16:20] <bazhang> niteye: there is of kubuntu as well
[16:20] <dunnix> DG19075: Thanks!
[16:20] <andycr> dunnix: Yeah. If you want it to work right now, you can go into synaptic, click Settings->Repositories, under DOwnload From choose Other, and pick a mirror from the list
[16:20] <helloworld> hello can any one tell me how to execute a command auto maticaly at start up after login :)
[16:20] <niteye> yes but only of 6.06, not the newest release
[16:20] <neeto> Is there a way to completely disable the tootip at the login screen? ("Type your information, for a menu press F10...")
[16:21] <iusegnulinux> add to session > autostart
[16:21] <CyberCod> I am so very disappointed
[16:21] <dunnix> andycr: I'll give that a shot, thanks
[16:21] <Batch> Lol it's hard to get help in here.. Damn 8.01 xD
[16:21] <bazhang> niteye: you are not looking carefully enough ;]
[16:21] <timo> ﻿Help noob with driver installation please.
[16:21] <CyberCod> maybe they should've made it 8.06 and gotten more stuff fixed right
[16:21] <niteye> wait nvm
[16:21] <helloworld> iusegnulinux: where is add to session :)
[16:21] <bazhang> CyberCod: as are we all
[16:21] <Nith> anyone know how I can check a large fs to ensure it copied correctly... like md5 for directory trees?
[16:22] <niteye> i think they haven't updated some of the links yet on the official site
[16:22] <Halsafar> I need to get the xen virtualization layer installed on an ubuntu hardy installation.  I have no internet connection.  The install is running in Hyper-V.  To install the HyperV linux integration components I Need to be running the XEN virtualization layer...
[16:22] <iusegnulinux> configuration
[16:22] <nikitis> Grub is by far the most jacked part of 8.04
[16:22] <mariocesar_bo> hey bazhang, i get this
[16:22] <evand> CyberCod: There is no partitioner in Wubi.  Are you sure you didn't boot into the livecd?
[16:22] <CyberCod> the cd is on my desk
[16:22] <CyberCod> so yeah, I'm sure
[16:22] <connor_> im trying to change the media prefs in 8.04 so dvds automaticly use vlc but there is no vlc option
[16:22] <ere4si> nikitis: works here
[16:22] <niteye> is the DVD version superior to the CD version?
[16:22] <bazhang> CyberCod: you are using wubi?
[16:23] <CyberCod> it installed via wubi and then rebooted, I went into the Ubuntu option
[16:23] <Flannel> niteye: no, they install identical systems
[16:23] <helloworld> iusegnulinux: cant find :(
[16:23] <nikitis> ere4si, 3 machines so far, all with GRUB Errors, I was able to correct them, but it's not working out of the box
[16:23] <niteye> then what does the DVD have that the CD doesnt?
[16:23] <nikitis> ere4si, not like gutsy was
[16:23] <manawenuz> please someone help me , i can't connect to a PPTP vpn server which i've installed ,
[16:23] <manawenuz> can anyone help me ???
[16:23] <Bert_2> Hi, I have a native linux game here that screws up because I'm on dual-monitor, is there a way to emulate a screen or something so that I can play the game properly ?
[16:23] <CyberCod> and it came up asking me to select timezone (which sucks more than ever now btw) and then tried to start partitioner and crashed
[16:23] <Flannel> niteye: the DVD is the LiveCD + Alternate CD + More packages on the disc
[16:23] <andycr> connor_: Try clicking "Custom" in the list and typing vlc in the box
[16:23] <nikitis> ere4si, also why on Ubuntuguide.org, it's one of the only things on there, teaching people how to correct it.
[16:23] <Jaymac> does anyone that uses Lightning as a Thunderbird extension know where the calendar files are stored?
[16:23] <niteye> okay thanks
[16:23] <Halsafar> does anyone know of a iso image I can use that has the packages needed to get XEN installed in Hardy?
[16:23] <ov1d1u_nitan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64379/
[16:23] <needcdrom> bazhang: Could not calculate the upgrade. A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. This can be caused by: *Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu, *Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu, *Unofficical software packages not provided by Ubuntu. If none of this applies, then please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ in the bugreport
[16:23] <m3ltd0wn123> I am having an issue setting up proftpd, it starts, but when i try to connect it says "connection lost"
[16:23] <bazhang>  niteyejust easier for some folks who have a slow net connection perhaps--more packagages etc
[16:23] <evand> CyberCod: what's the issue with the timezone map?
[16:24] <connor_> theres no custom option
[16:24] <ov1d1u_nitan> what I must to do to compile that?
[16:24] <connor_> that i can find
[16:24] <iusegnulinux> gnome-control-center
[16:24] <ere4si> nikitis: what errors are you getting?
[16:24] <evand> CyberCod: if the partitioner crashes, please file a bug: http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug .
[16:24] <Dr_willis> Bert_2,  if using nvidia cards. the 'twinview' normally takes care of that for me.. Unless its a very badly written game
[16:24] <iusegnulinux> run gnome-control-center
[16:24] <ubuntung-pinoy> hello. update manager can't seem to connect to servers
[16:24] <iusegnulinux> go to session
[16:24] <nikitis> ere4si, Error 17's and 13's
[16:24] <Bert_2> Dr_willis: it's a very old game
[16:24] <bazhang> needcdrom: any reason not to just do it without the cd via the net?
[16:25] <amenado> !slow | ubuntung-pinoy
[16:25] <ubotu> ubuntung-pinoy: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[16:25] <iusegnulinux> add links to the apps you need to autostarted apps
[16:25] <andycr> ubuntung-pinoy: Yeah, they're pretty hammered at the moment
[16:25] <nikitis> ere4si, the install isn't autosetting the boot flag for the /boot partitions
[16:25] <connor_> andycr: i cant find a custom option this is 8.04 right
[16:25] <needcdrom> bazhang: ubuntung-pinoy: it's because everyone is trying to connect to the servers and they are slow
[16:25] <manawenuz> please someone help me , i can't connect to a PPTP vpn server which i've installed ,  can anyone help me to figure out why ??? , btw i can connect to it with windows .
[16:25] <Dr_willis> Bert_2,  You could try some of the monitor/screen contorl tools to disable the 2nd monitor. or make a different xorg.conf to only enable one monitor.
[16:25] <Halsafar> Anyone lend any advice for getting the Hyper-V Integration Components for Linux installed in hardy ?
[16:25] <helloworld> iusegnulinux: thnks
[16:25] <andycr> connor_: Not sure then, sorry. I'm running 7.10; perhaps it's different.
[16:25] <Flannel> nikitis: the boot flag is useless for all modern OSes, not even windows uses it.
[16:25] <CyberCod> evand: the timezone thing sucks... thats my issue with it.  It is hard to control and doesn't have any means of just selecting my actual time zones without needing to know geography
[16:25] <ov1d1u_nitan> somebody can help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64379/
[16:25] <CaptainMorgan> why did ubuntu ship with a beta version of firefox ?
[16:25] <Bert_2> Dr_willis: yeah but I find it rather stupid to restart X just for playing a game
[16:25] <mariocesar_bo> hey bashang, i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64381/
[16:25] <bazhang> needcdrom: that will be the case with the alternate too; where do you think the newest are checked against but the mirrors?
[16:25] <mariocesar_bo> for my chipset
[16:25] <IndyGunFreak> CaptainMorgan: i was wondering the same thing yesterday\
[16:26] <connor_> anybody know how i can change my 8.04 so dvds automaticly boot in vlc
[16:26] <asfalt> hi all, does anyone have any links/documentation for setting up a local ubuntu update server (if it exists?)
[16:26] <manawenuz> please someone help me , i can't connect to a PPTP vpn server which i've installed ,  can anyone help me to figure out why ??? , btw i can connect to it with windows .
[16:26] <ere4si> nikitis: you can set / as bootable in the install - might be h/ware related
[16:26] <iusegnulinux> ﻿Flannel: "not even windows" ???
[16:26] <Dr_willis> Bert_2,  try the config tools to change it on the fly.. or  restartx,, or do without the game i guess.
[16:26] <ubuntung-pinoy> andycr: needcdrom, oh so that's why.. are updates available through torrent?:-/
[16:26] <nikitis> Flannel, turns out, that was my issue.  I set /boot with a boot flag and it worked
[16:26] <andycr> connor_: On mine, I go into Removeable Drives and Media, click Multimedia, and under "Video DVD Discs" I can put vlc in command
[16:26] <MrDakoki> how i can get the path of a library in ubuntu?
[16:26] <CyberCod> it zooms every time I hover over it, and usually starts off somewhere in africa or austrailia
[16:26] <mphill> asfalt: look at apt-cacher
[16:26] <m3ltd0wn123> I am having an issue setting up proftpd, it starts, but when i try to connect it says "connection lost"
[16:26] <evand> CyberCod: saying it sucks doesn't help get it fixed.  I need specifics.  Please elaborate on it being hard to control.
[16:26] <andycr> ubuntung-pinoy: No, sorry. You can use an apt mirror
[16:26] <connor_> yes but this is 8.04 lts
[16:26] <needcdrom> bazhang: the point is, even if I do download via the net, it will still have this error. the prob is with my computer, not the update
[16:26] <CyberCod> back in a bit
[16:26] <asfalt> thanks mphill
[16:26] <r3m0t> MrDakoki: why do you want it?
[16:27] <connor_> not gusty mine just has a drop down list
[16:27] <needcdrom> ubuntung-pinoy: yes, get the alternate cd torrent, you can update from that
[16:27] <manawenuz> please someone help me , i can't connect to a PPTP vpn server which i've installed ,  can anyone help me to figure out why ??? , btw i can connect to it with windows .
[16:27] <ubuntung-pinoy> andycr, hate to be a bother, but how does one fo about that?
[16:27] <CaptainMorgan> IndyGunFreak, the answer I'm getting from #firefox is that simply 2.* is near EOL, and since Hardy LTS, it makes sense in that way I guess....
[16:27] <bazhang> 0930:1301 Toshiba Corp is that it mariocesar_bo? what does a search of that reveal (re: chipset)
[16:27] <amenado> ubuntung-pinoy-> you dont directly hit the main servers with torrents, you maybe getting it from sharing with others
[16:27] <JDogHerman> any one know how to stop the error; sudo: unable to resolve host ...?
[16:27] <manawenuz> somebody , anybody
[16:27] <ubuntung-pinoy> needcdrom, really? i have it right now.. HOW?
[16:27] <Flannel> !hostname | JDogHerman
[16:27] <ubotu> JDogHerman: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[16:27] <Bert_2> Dr_willis: so there's no way of emulating or spoofing the something so the game uses another resolution ?
[16:27] <mariocesar_bo> hazbang, can u see that?
[16:27] <mariocesar_bo> /home/mariocesar/Escritorio/minga_paquetes1.0.sh
[16:27] <IndyGunFreak> CaptainMorgan: yeah, i guess... it does seem to go outside the norm for Ubuntu though
[16:27] <nikitis> Everything else seems to be well with 8.04.  Cept where are those repositories?
[16:27] <CaptainMorgan> IndyGunFreak, true... very interesting I think
[16:27] <needcdrom> ubuntung-pinoy: the instructions are on the update page, at the bottom
[16:27] <MrDakoki> r3m0t i want  to compile a program but i have a linker error
[16:28] <needcdrom> !update | ubuntung-pinoy
[16:28] <ubotu> ubuntung-pinoy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:28] <ubuntung-pinoy> amenado, basic bittorrent philosophy i get.. where to get the torrent ponter files i dont
[16:28] <mariocesar_bo> sorry... this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64381/
[16:28] <bazhang> mariocesar_bo: you need to correctly type my nick baz (tab key)
[16:28] <MrDakoki> r3m0t its beacuse im tryiing to use this -> #include <X11/extensions/XTest.h>
[16:28] <artti> Darn, i can't upgrade. Always in same place it says that problem occured. Some sort of network problem... bla bla.
[16:28] <MrDakoki> but i got a linker error
[16:28] <Dr_willis> Bert_2,  the various nvidia tools let you chantge res/disable the 2nd monitor on the fly. When using TwinView on my nvidia cards - i havent had any issues with games and fullscreen
[16:28] <m3ltd0wn123> I am having an issue setting up proftpd, it runs, i ran the config check and it worked, but when i try to connect it says "Connection dropped by host"
[16:28] <MrDakoki> i dont know where hell is the library
[16:29] <Kira> Time to look for ways to remotely upgrade to Hardy. :D
[16:29] <ubuntung-pinoy> needcdrom, i actually am on Hardy final release already.. wanted to get Updates coz my video card's driver is flaky
[16:29] <bazhang> !slow | artti
[16:29] <ubotu> artti: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[16:29] <mariocesar_bo> ok hazbang
[16:29] <MrDakoki> but i have compiled some programs that uses it
[16:29] <amenado> MrDakoki-> use find command to look for the files in your system
[16:29] <mariocesar_bo> bazhang
[16:29] <r3m0t> MrDakoki: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=XTest.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any says you need to install the "x11proto-xext-dev" package
[16:29] <connor_> does anybody know how i can make dvds start in vlc in 8.04 lts
[16:29] <bazhang> hazbang? ;[
[16:29] <Toyota4Runner> after doing an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 when it restarts I get a 'No Signal" on the monitor.  Drop to console I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it doesn't offer me anything for the video card.  How can I fix this.
[16:29] <mariocesar_bo> this is the address bazhang http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64381/
[16:29] <needcdrom> ubuntung-pinoy: oh, sorry :) In that case you'll have to wait for the servers to cool donw
[16:29] <Koheleth> anybody else having problems downloading 3 dependency files that go with Skype?
[16:29] <artti> bazhang, i have .iso files. But somehow i can't burn them right on dsik.
[16:29] <CaptainMorgan> drag and drop from other workspaces doesn't appear to work.. is this known ?
[16:30] <bazhang> mariocesar_bo: I saw it; what did a search of that id bus reveal for that chipset?
[16:30] <needcdrom> artti: what program are you using?
[16:30] <MrDakoki> oh ! grat thank you very much r3m0t!
[16:30] <samalex> dangit, us.archive.ubuntu.com seems to be hammered ... some updates will download while others won't.
[16:30] <bazhang> artti: this is gnome? or windows
[16:30] <monomo> b1n0ry: what would be a good place to install netbeans to? the .sh wants to install it to my /home folder...
[16:30] <ubuntung-pinoy> needcdrom.. oh my.. :-( do u think i could retrieve the package or whatever from my old install of gutsy?
[16:30] <r3m0t> MrDakoki: no problem :) you can use the search in the same way if you get another error
[16:30] <m3ltd0wn123> I am having an issue setting up proftpd, it runs, i ran the config check and it worked, but when i try to connect it says "Connection dropped by host"
[16:30] <artti> needcdrom, i tried GnomeBaker, basero and nautilus itself.
[16:30] <Koheleth> artii get magic iso from mininova
[16:30] <amenado> monomo-> you are the only user, so its good enuff to put it there
[16:31] <manawenuz>  please someone help me , i can't connect to a PPTP vpn server which i've installed ,  can anyone help me to figure out why ??? , btw i can connect to it with windows .
[16:31] <bazhang> artti: right click on iso open with cd/dvd creator
[16:31] <artti> bazhang, gnome? windows?
[16:31] <nikitis> brb, rebooting from installing NVIDIA Drivers
[16:31] <needcdrom> ubuntung-pinoy: I think it would be best to wait then try using old packages, if possible
[16:31] <incorrect> has anyone seen a comparison between running 32bit apps on 64bit platform vs running them on a 32bit platform?
[16:31] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: what are you connecting to?
[16:31] <ov1d1u_nitan> wich package contain libdivxencore.so.0?
[16:31] <needcdrom> artti: and what happened
[16:31] <amenado> manawenuz-> you tried to connect from within, ie  ftp localhost?
[16:31] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: My server's IP address.
[16:31] <MrDakoki> its installed but i have the same error
[16:31] <MrDakoki> undefined reference to
[16:31] <needcdrom> artti: can your computer burn other isos alright?
[16:32] <artti> needcdrom, result was copied .iso on cd.
[16:32] <amenado> MrDakoki-> this is not c coding support channel, perhaps you can visit #c ?
[16:32] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: have you added your server to  /etc/hosts.allow?
[16:32] <ubuntung-pinoy> needcdrom: that makes sense.. it's just that this screen is becoming AUUGH! it's not right...
[16:32] <ov1d1u_nitan> wich package contain libdivxencore.so.0?
[16:32] <PrivateVoid> Sorry for the rant, but I get to manage Mac servers now... aiiiiieeeeee!!! <thump>
[16:32] <jhunte2> hi
[16:33]  * PrivateVoid sobs
[16:33] <jhunte2> nofin
[16:33] <jhunte2> u
[16:33] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. totally off topic question here, but does anyone know alot about getting a projector for work? I'm looking for a decent enough one for showing off interface design work for our firm here..
[16:33] <needcdrom> artti: you may have already tried this, but if you right click on the image, you can select "write to disk" and that will do it the right way
[16:33] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: No, what line should I add, I am looking at it and not sure what to add
[16:33] <NET||abuse> so would anyone recomend one or other of lcd vs dlp? and what connections should I be really trying to get?
[16:33] <artti> needcdrom, done that.
[16:33] <jhunte2> who is connor
[16:33] <bazhang> NET||abuse: best ask in #hardware thanks
[16:33] <Koheleth> yep that sure is off topic
[16:33] <tech0007> ov1d1u_nitan: try avifile-divx-plugin
[16:33] <jhunte2> last name please
[16:33] <JDogHerman> how can i recover the root password?
[16:33] <NET||abuse> bazhang: ahh, that's a good idea.. thanks
[16:33] <MrLinux> I have a question, I need namedb , how can I install it ?
[16:34] <NET||abuse> Koheleth: awsome
[16:34] <NET||abuse> MrLinux: bind
[16:34] <clemyeats> JDogHerman: as a sudoer?
[16:34] <amenado> JDogHerman-> you can not, boot from liveCD and issue a new one
[16:34] <needcdrom> artti: you could also try k3b, it's a good program for burning
[16:34] <MrLinux> However the following packages replace it:
[16:34] <MrLinux>   dnsutils bind9
[16:34] <MrLinux> E: Package bind has no installation candidate
[16:34] <MrLinux> root@mrlinux-laptop:~#
[16:34] <FloodBot2> MrLinux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <manawenuz> amenado: huh ?
[16:34] <bazhang> artti: you checked the md5 sums also?
[16:34] <ingo_> hallo all! just upgrated to hardy on my macbook white. while booting it says "The greeter application appears to be - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message????
[16:34] <needcdrom> artti: but I have to say, that is an odd problem
[16:34] <DBautell> JDogHerman, Ubuntu picks a random root password and does not share it with you. Best practice is to use sudo.
[16:34] <ov1d1u_nitan> ﻿tech0007: I tried that, but it didn't worked
[16:34] <amenado> manawenuz-> double huh?
[16:34] <MrLinux> NET||abuse: Is not working
[16:34] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: I add -  on a separate line - the ip address and the ost neame
[16:35] <ov1d1u_nitan> xdtv: error while loading shared libraries: libdivxencore.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:35] <manawenuz> amenado: you tried to connect from within, ie  ftp localhost? triple huh ?!!!
[16:35] <ere4si> *host
[16:35] <tech0007> ov1d1u_nitan: what are you trying to do
[16:35] <monomo> amenado: about the netbeans install locations: but what if i'm not the only user?
[16:35] <bazhang> DBautell: that is not quite right-none is picked
[16:35] <wayranet> buenas
[16:35] <ov1d1u_nitan> to run xdtv
[16:35] <NET||abuse> MrLinux: named is the binary you are talking about, and Bind is like the industry standard version that most people will use,, not that it's without any flaws... its got a few to be proud of :)
[16:35] <clemyeats> JDogHerman: if you can't login, with the liveCD. If you can with sudo passwd root
[16:35] <amenado> manawenuz-> you have an attitude issue, no help from me to you
[16:35] <DBautell> bazhang, geuss I'll reword that
[16:35] <MrLinux> NET||abuse: I need namedb on my sistem..
[16:35]  * Koheleth thinks pistachio nuts are highly addictive
[16:35] <artti> bazhang, how i do that?
[16:35] <manawenuz> amenado: why do you say that ??
[16:36] <ubutom> Hellooo guys
[16:36] <amenado> monomo-> well you can share it with someone else?
[16:36] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm sorry if i made you feel like that
[16:36] <bazhang> !md5 | artti
[16:36] <ubotu> artti: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[16:36] <JDogHerman> dbautell: I cant sudo because the hostname is not working
[16:36] <manawenuz> amenado: i couldn't get what you're saying
[16:36] <extern> I installed Adobe Reader from medibuntu, however when I try to run it from applications->office->adobe reader, it says ""acroread" (No such file or directory)"
[16:36] <hdevalence> is there a way to tell do-release-upgrade to download all the packages I'll need now and not actually do the upgrade?
[16:36] <manawenuz> amenado: i do apologize , anyways
[16:36] <KlrSpz> mirrors tanking out?
[16:36] <ingo_> hallo all! just upgrated to hardy on my macbook white. while booting it says "The greeter application appears to be - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message????
[16:36] <bazhang> manawenuz: what did you do? we are volunteers here so be very nice to us or we wont want to help you
[16:37] <ingo_> hallo all! just upgrated to hardy on my macbook white. while booting it says "The greeter application appears to be crashing - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message????
[16:37] <amenado> JDogHerman-> you may have to make sure your hostname is resolve properly
[16:37] <ramvi> I have an openPGP key on Launchpad. I'm trying to build a deb, but I'm not allowed because I don't have an gpg key (fresh ubuntu install). How do I activate my old gpg key in Ubuntu?
[16:37] <manawenuz> bazhang: I do apologize whether i get help or not
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> extern: thats odd, its working fine for me on 2 pc's.. have you tried purging and reinstalling?
[16:37] <DBautell> JDogHerman, eww... I can't help (yet), good luck
[16:37] <timo> hey whats this got it from firefox ,,Please enter the master password for the Software Security Device
[16:37] <amenado> manawenuz-> no problem..go on and try what i suggested
[16:37] <afallenhope> hey why do I get this
[16:37] <afallenhope> afallenhope@afh:~$ sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[16:37] <afallenhope> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[16:37] <manawenuz> amenado: i didn't get what you mean
[16:38] <extern> IndyGunFreak, I didn't try purging. It used to work fine on 7.10. By the way, I'm running it on x64
[16:38] <IndyGunFreak> that coud be the issue..
[16:38] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: like ALL: myhostname
[16:38] <monomo> amenado: thnx for the help! i'll just install it to my /home
[16:38] <amenado> manawenuz-> on same ftp server, try to use the ftp client like   ftp localhost
[16:38] <extern> but it used to work fine installed from medibuntu :/
[16:38] <JDogHerman> amenado: everytime i try to set the hostname with sudo it says I can resolve the hostname
[16:38] <MrLinux> How , can I make my ubunto 3D ?
[16:38] <MrLinux> ubuntu *
[16:38] <manawenuz> amenado: ftp ??? i'm talking about VPN PPTP
[16:38] <amenado> monomo-> alright, enjoy eclipse
[16:38] <monomo> lol!
[16:38] <ubuntung-pinoy> If Carlito had two hard drives, one with Gutsy, one with xp, and Carlito decided to download both alternate and desktop CD images for Hardy, then went on to clean install Hardy over xp, will Carlito be able to find package files from the old Gutsy install so that he can fix his graphics card driver in the new and beautiful Hardy install?
[16:38] <manawenuz> amenado: should i use ftp client ???
[16:39] <amenado> manawenuz-> am getting confused of who i was helping...
[16:39] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: Do I need to restart the ftp server after I do that?
[16:39] <Halsafar> Anyone lend any advice for getting the Hyper-V Integration Components for Linux installed in hardy ?
[16:39] <scizzo-> JDogHerman: I had the same problem when I relized that I was using the DNS adress....
[16:39] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: I use e.g. 192.168.0.5 on one line then   severname    on the next
[16:39] <amenado> manawenuz-> okay what happens when you establish the vpn? from where to where? what os are in both ends?
[16:39] <rezx> man -- i wish the ububtu servers would stop timing out. ahhhhhgh ;)
[16:39] <bazhang> rezx we all do
[16:39] <manawenuz> amenado: both ends are ubuntu 7.10
[16:39] <amenado> JDogHerman-> you meant i can not resolve?
[16:40] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: then  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:40] <timo> whats the channel for driver support ?
[16:40] <manawenuz> amenado: while i'm trying to connect to it through windows box everything's ok
[16:40] <Leerok> So, anyone tried debtorrent?
[16:40] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: same error
[16:40] <manawenuz> amenado: but i can't manage to connect to it via other linux box
[16:40] <amenado> manawenuz-> and which app or commands you use to establish the vpn?
[16:40] <manawenuz> amenado: wait
[16:40] <bazhang> ubuntung-pinoy: no need; carlito has a new and shiny hardy that is very different from gutsy
[16:40] <manawenuz> amenado: pppd call ....
[16:40] <KlrSpz> Leerok: i like deluge-torrent
[16:40] <Anorion|Mac> is there a DVD image that can install all three *buntu flavors?
[16:40] <Leerok> Deluge-torrent?
[16:41] <KlrSpz> Anorion|Mac: just install the differnet *-desktop packages
[16:41] <KlrSpz> Leerok: google it
[16:41]  * Mimi asks: Hi people... what's the command that launches the "Search for Files" menu?
[16:41] <ingo_> "The greeter application appears to be crashing - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message????
[16:41] <amenado> manawenuz-> are they in same lan? or you have to dial out to the other end ?
[16:41] <KlrSpz> BBIAF, gotta reboot
[16:41] <Koheleth> anyone having problems installing Skype, just install the QT dev tools
[16:41] <bazhang> transmission is the default for hardy Leerok and very nice ;]
[16:41] <manawenuz> amenado: no it's not on my network
[16:41] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, then i guess carlito will just have to work with choppy display 'til the servers cool down, eh? :-/
[16:41] <manawenuz> amenado: but the windows box is on the same network
[16:41] <ere4si> 3is the serer running on the comp you're connecting to?
[16:41] <DBautell> JDogHerman, all attempts to use sudo give you the hostname error?
[16:41] <bazhang> ubuntung-pinoy: this is nvidia or ati
[16:41] <Leerok> Can you use it to download Ubuntu packages via apt-get?
[16:42] <manawenuz> amenado: do you have a windows box ??
[16:42] <amenado> manawenuz-> which one works? windows to ubuntu? but not ubntu to ubuntu?
[16:42] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, nvidia
[16:42] <manawenuz> amenado: yeah
[16:42] <manawenuz> amenado: moreover windows box is in the same network
[16:42] <thatguy> hey i finally finished my upgrade to hardy and now no sound will come out of my comp can anyone help
[16:42] <amenado> manawenuz-> no M$ windows on my end.
[16:42] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | ubuntung-pinoy when the servers cool off for carlito ;]
[16:42] <ubotu> ubuntung-pinoy when the servers cool off for carlito ;]: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[16:42] <manawenuz> amenado: can you try to connect to me with your lin box ??
[16:43] <amenado> manawenuz-> the ppp is riding on a modem? serial line?
[16:43] <tech0007> Mimi: gnome-search-tool
[16:43] <gmenelau> if i upgrade from 7.10 to 8. will i lose the data and my folders etc or not ?
[16:43] <manawenuz> amenado: what ???
[16:43] <manawenuz> amenado: what do you mean i mean ??
[16:43] <CyberCod> Ok, I'm back... sorry small family crisis
[16:43] <bazhang> gmenelau: via net or cd fresh install or alt cd which
[16:43] <rawb> does anyone know why php 5.2.4 was included in 8.04 instead of 5.2.5? 5.2.5 has been in debian's testing since jan 08, so I would of thought ubuntu would pull it from there
[16:43] <Mimi> THanks tech0007 !
[16:43] <Dr_willis> gmenelau,  with a upgrade you 'shouldent' lose anything.
[16:43] <amenado> manawenuz-> how does ppp establishes the link? it uses a modem?
[16:43] <CyberCod> I realize that just saying "it sucks" doesn't tell anything
[16:43] <gmenelau> bazhang via net
[16:43] <manawenuz> amenado: lan
[16:44] <bazhang> gmenelau: then you are good to go
[16:44] <Koheleth> any reason why the qt dev tools will not download, can someone take a look at this please
[16:44] <m3ltd0wn123> ere4si: Yes, it doesn't work, even from local machine
[16:44] <manawenuz> amenado: pty "213.207.219.42 --nolaunchpppd"
[16:44] <kbrooks> rawb, tou have crazy expectations.....
[16:44] <amenado> manawenuz-> if you already have ip on both ends, why do you use ppp?
[16:44] <manawenuz> amenado: it also includes /etc/ppp/options.pptp
[16:44] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang: thanks
[16:44] <bazhang> rawb file a bug or go to brainstorm
[16:44] <gmenelau> bazhang  i will not have any problem with the compiz ?
[16:44] <ingo_> "The greeter application appears to be crashing - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message????
[16:45] <manawenuz> amenado: so what should i use ?
[16:45] <Leerok> Can deluge torrent be used to download deb packages?
[16:45] <saross0219> anyone good with wireless issues here?
[16:45] <bazhang> gmenelau: 100% guaranteed or your money back ;]
[16:45] <manawenuz> amenado: i don't really know
[16:45] <kbrooks> rawb, Ubuntu stopped importing from Debian for 8.04 on December 13, 2007.
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> Leerok: no
[16:45] <amenado> manawenuz-> you can use like  ipip, gre, vtund, iptables combinations of those
[16:45] <bazhang> Leerok: haha no; no need
[16:45] <matthijs> Can someone help me with wireless connection plz
[16:45] <Leerok> Ah.
[16:45] <amenado> manawenuz-> even with ssh tunneling too
[16:45] <gmenelau> bazhang  ok thanks a lot see you after upgrade !!!!
[16:45] <ubuntung-pinoy> thatguy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=729873
[16:45] <Leerok> I won't find it too useful, then.
[16:45] <timo> cant any one help with a driver, Im gona have to go back to feisty
[16:45] <kbrooks> rawb, are you there?
[16:45] <rawb> kbrooks: ah, ok. just missed it then :)
[16:45] <Lr5> uhh, upgrade failed it says
[16:45] <ere4si> m3ltd0wn123: can't offer any more suggestions then - sorry
[16:45] <Odd-rationale> !wireless
[16:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[16:45] <bazhang> good luck gmenelau!
[16:46] <Lr5> doesn't sound good
[16:46] <manawenuz> amenado: can you suggest me the easiest way ??
[16:46] <thatguy> thank you ubuntung-pinoy
[16:46] <doug2266778822> i need help when i put in a dvd it sayes Error :could not read from resources: how do i fix this?
[16:46] <amenado> manawenuz-> you normally only use ppp if you only have like a serial link or a modem(serial on one side) to the remote end
[16:46] <qryzy> can you upgrade from downloaded image?
[16:46]  * Lr5 hopes the system works after a restart
[16:46] <O||y> Hi all
[16:46] <CyberCod> it sucks because it attempts to make something easier and just ends up making a mess of the whole process.... selecting your time zone should be a simple drop down box.  And if you MUST include a zoomable map, put a dropdown box for timezone next to it... or highlight a vertical stripe of the map with which timezone is currently selected so that you can tell if your city happens to fall within it.
[16:46] <Koheleth> can someone see if they can download the qt dev tools please
[16:46] <bazhang> qryzy: live or alt cd
[16:46] <manawenuz> amenado: aha
[16:46] <Osax> hi allhi all
[16:46] <amenado> manawenuz-> perhaps you tell us your requirements, and we may be able to suggest a better solution(s)
[16:46] <MrLinux> I need some help .
[16:47] <kbrooks> CyberCod, talk to #ubuntu-bugs about this
[16:47] <MrLinux> Someone free ?
[16:47] <Osax> is any one having a problem with wireless on Ubuntu 8.04?
[16:47] <thatguy> no
[16:47] <bazhang> !brainstorm | CyberCod
[16:47] <ubotu> CyberCod: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[16:47] <Cygoku> Is the dvd version of hardy heron anywhere ?!?!
[16:47] <manawenuz> amenado: i believe i've chosen a bad solution , but here i go
[16:47] <Odd-rationale> !ask | MrLinux
[16:47] <ubotu> MrLinux: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:47] <Osax> Intel 3945 + Belkin ADSLl router
[16:47] <Koheleth> qt4-dev-tools is the files
[16:47] <Dr_willis> CyberCod,  for the state of Indiana - we need a zoomed in map of Indiana - we have different timezones depending on which county in the state you are in. :)
[16:47] <manawenuz> amenado: there's a corporation with to offices
[16:47] <strtok> Anyone know how difficult it would be to install gcc 4.2.2 (the one from 7.10) as an alternative gcc?
[16:47] <Osax> I can see the APs but can't connect
[16:47] <MrLinux> Odd-rationale : I installed webmin , how do I change the colours of the root ?
[16:47] <dystopianray> Koheleth: is your server slow?
[16:48] <dystopianray> !slow | Koheleth
[16:48] <ubotu> Koheleth: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[16:48] <Koheleth> not usually
[16:48] <manawenuz> amenado: one of thoes offices have got some sort of security camera's and they'd like to monitor them
[16:48] <Koheleth> web seems fine
[16:48] <gmenelau> bazhang  it say failed extracting
[16:48] <bazhang> CyberCod: we know you dont like wubi; thanks for sharing--could you please go to #ubuntu-offtopic ? thanks
[16:48] <CyberCod> bazhang:  I already did that
[16:48] <Koheleth> ok will try later
[16:48] <manawenuz> amenado: both ends (i mean offices) uses a proxyserver based on ubuntu 7.10 & 8.04
[16:48] <Koheleth> thanks
[16:48] <CyberCod> bazhang:  I've tried very hard to participate
[16:49] <manawenuz> amenado: moreover they want to be able to connect to camera's from otherplaces than the other office
[16:49] <Osax> hm... no one is having a problem with wireless then!
[16:49] <doug2266778822> i need help when i put in a dvd it sayes Error :could not read from resources: how do i fix this?
[16:49] <amenado> manawenuz okay, is the security cameran somehow already is tied in to stream the video it produces right? ie, if you were local to where the camera is, can you monitor it with any pc?
[16:49] <CyberCod> now I'm going to see how well it UNinstalls from windows
[16:49] <Osax> except me, though it works with debian fine
[16:49] <MrObvious> !info gkrellm
[16:49] <ubotu> gkrellm (source: gkrellm): The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-1ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 734 kB, installed size 2076 kB
[16:49] <bazhang> CyberCod: I am sure you have; and hope you continue to do so; but this channel is so busy that it is just a bit disruptiive is all thanks
[16:49] <Invisionfree> Why is it whenever debconf pops up about something, it takes forever to pop up, then you click finish, then it freezes for a long time, then goes again?
[16:49] <manawenuz> amenado: yeah , the camera server is a windows box
[16:49] <DBautell> bazhang, would it be safe/accurate to say "the root account is locked"?
[16:50] <bazhang> !sudo | DBautell
[16:50] <ubotu> DBautell: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[16:50] <CyberCod> bazhang:   shouldn't there be an overflow channel?  surely two channels of 750 would be preferable to one channel of 1500
[16:50] <cybojanek> Hi
[16:50] <tsh> Hey guys I have just installed ubuntu hardy heron, is there any good info sites on this particular release e.g. how to install all the codecs, and applications etc ?
[16:50] <Osax> !sudo
[16:50] <louish> Hi All.    Hey,  Anyone having issues installing Ubuntu 8.04 64Bit?   No real issues with hardware, just some weird networking and apt-get, synaptic stuff (failing apt-get updates etc.)
[16:50] <askand> Where have that shared folder thing gone that used to be in administrationmenu?
[16:50] <Invisionfree> Hey cybojanek!
[16:50] <manawenuz> amenado: unfortunately they haven't installed it  yet , they're gonna install them tomorrow , and i won't be able to apply the solution from tomorrow on
[16:50] <amenado> manawenuz-> to monitor the streaming video, what does a client must do to see it?
[16:50] <jbroome> louish: apt servers are getting hammered, be patient
[16:50] <consfearacy> louish, apt-get fails because of server load
[16:50] <DBautell> bazhang, in reference to your previous correction on my "root password is secret" spiel
[16:50] <MrObvious> !universe
[16:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[16:50] <tsh> anyone?
[16:50] <bazhang> gmenelau: well the servers may be just a wee bit slow now; the day after the release and all ;]
[16:51] <cybojanek> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com up? I cant apt-get install build-essential... :(
[16:51] <amenado> manawenuz-> ie, what client software must be installed on the client pc to monitor that video ?
[16:51] <Mex_Tux> I'm having some trouble on startup with Gutsy. There is a message telling me that an error ocurred on gnome settings startup. The last error messagewas: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the
[16:51] <Mex_Tux> message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection
[16:51] <manawenuz> amenado: from what i know , all you need to know is to browse the client's ip using a webbrowser , it somehow have a webserver
[16:51] <Mex_Tux> was broken.
[16:51] <dystopianray> !slow | cybojanek
[16:51] <ubotu> cybojanek: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[16:51] <manawenuz> amenado: sorry
[16:51] <louish> oh  okay.
[16:51] <bubu1uk> tsh: when you try to play video/autio file, it will ask you to download codecs automaticly.
[16:51] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm wrong , yeah
[16:51] <cybojanek> ubotu: Thanks
[16:51] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[16:51] <bazhang> DBautell: you can create one; but best not to
[16:51] <doug2266778822> i need help when i put in a dvd it sayes Error :could not read from resources: how do i fix this?
[16:51] <manawenuz> amenado: the client should be installed
[16:51] <cybojanek> ubotu: Youre more helpfull than anyone else here :D
[16:51] <tsh> bubu1uk, ok but generally are there any good documentation sites on this new release?
[16:51] <DBautell> bazhang, I know that
[16:51] <bazhang> doug2266778822: did you check the md5 sum?
[16:52] <jbroome> doug2266778822: http://www.google.com/search?q=+Error+:could+not+read+from+resources:
[16:52] <gmenelau> bazhang  ok thanks a lot see you after upgrade !!!! have a nice WK
[16:52] <doug2266778822> bazhang: no how do i do that?
[16:52] <amenado> manawenuz-> wait.. the camera has a web server to stream the video? or you have to have a special client(app) on your pc t monitor the video?
[16:52] <DBautell> bazhang, I'm asking if "the root account is locked" is an accurate thing to say about ubuntu
[16:52] <bazhang> gmenelau: will be here waiting ;]
[16:52] <Osax> anyone?
[16:52] <bubu1uk> tsh: probably not for hardy yet, except ubuntu wiki. try ubuntuguide.org and ubuntugeek (i think com) for extra info
[16:52] <Invisionfree> Hello: Why does my Desktop have no items, and whenever I open it from the panel, it just freezes ..
[16:52] <manawenuz> amenado: it have an application
[16:52] <O||y> i upgraded to 8.4 and things went wrong: my gfx aren't smoothe like they were bofore and i got a load of errors during the update (basically saying that the particular file would not be configured).  now when it loads up my gfx aren't as smoothe as they were before and it isn't using the right driver.  plus when i try to alter my screen resolution it comed up with error "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resoluti
[16:52] <w5> malang
[16:52] <O||y> on changes to the display size are not available."  anyone any ideas or should i reinstall from scratch? LOL
[16:52] <matteo1990> hi all, anyone know why when i open one of the connections under networking i get no dates?
[16:52] <Osax> Intel3945+Belkin wireless problem
[16:52] <w5> surabaya
[16:52] <manawenuz> amenado: i mixed it up with somewhere else first
[16:53] <bazhang> DBautell: locked? how about not activated? either should do--yours is better methinks ;]
[16:53] <doug2266778822> jbroome:  i have done that before i came in here.
[16:53] <manawenuz> amenado: btw , they have 2 spare IP addresses as well
[16:53]  * Invisionfree refuses to use Ubuntu ever again.
[16:53] <amenado> manawenuz-> would it be something like this?  http://www.smccd.edu/webcams/   <-- view it from your browser
[16:53]  * jconnolly is away: shhhh.  sleeeping.
[16:53] <manawenuz> amenado: i mean valid IP addresses
[16:54] <DBautell> bazhang, trying to lean towards brevity, so it get's the point across with annoying people
[16:54] <tsh> thank you
[16:54] <Wusaaa> i got enourmos problems with the hardy kernel
[16:54] <gooody> how can i modify icons in ubuntu gutsy?
[16:54] <ubuntung-pinoy> could anyone recommend some heavy duty ftp client for hardy?
[16:54] <DBautell> bazhang, thank you
[16:54] <liamrharvey> hello i have a dell laptop and have installed ubuntu 7.10 on it and i am having probles with connecting to my wi fi
[16:54] <Toyota4Runner> after doing an upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 when it restarts I get a 'No Signal" on the monitor.  Drop to console I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it doesn't offer me anything for the video card.  How can I fix this.
[16:54] <Krimpet> hmm, this may sound a bit silly, but is there any easy way to remove the overly wordy "3 Beta 5" from the Firefox title bar in hardy?
[16:54] <bubu1uk> is anyone having that kinda pink-ish shadow behind active window? or is my graphic card not setup properly? nvidia geforce 8600 M GT here. i have nvidia-glx-new drivers installed
[16:54] <Wusaaa> my network dev, my soundcard plus my acpi isnt working anymore
[16:54] <ubuntung-pinoy> looks like bazhang is on a roll today
[16:54] <richard> Hola
[16:54] <Skiessi> any screen capturing program using x264?
[16:54] <manawenuz> amenado: i haven't seen it yet , they've told me that it have a client side application which installs and connects to the serverside
[16:54] <bazhang> DBautell: then yours is much better ;] I always tend to annoy people more
[16:54] <O||y> ubuntung-pinoy> try filezilla
[16:54] <Wusaaa> worked perfectly in gutsy
[16:54] <Osax> liamrharvey, me too, on 8.04
[16:54] <amenado> manawenuz-> i want you to visit that site i pasted, to get an idea..
[16:55] <Osax> liamrharvey, but only with Belkin ADSL router
[16:55] <tech0007> Toyota4Runner: change driver to vesa first then examine /var/log/Xorg.o.log
[16:55] <bazhang> ubuntung-pinoy: only cos you are not helping ! ;]
[16:55] <Invisionfree> Hello: Why does my Desktop have no items, and whenever I open it from the panel, it just freezes ..
[16:55] <blacktux> salvwe
[16:55] <ubuntung-pinoy> filezilla doesn't support http/https, ﻿O||y
[16:55] <liamrharvey> osax do youhave a dell laptop
[16:55] <qryzy> #ubuntu+1
[16:55] <Krimpet> it seems a bit unpolished and space-wasting for all of my firefox windows to say "Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5" in the title - just wondering if there's a way to trim it down :)
[16:55] <Osax> liamrharvey, yes, Latitude D520
[16:55] <amenado> liamrharvey-> what chip does your wifi nic card have?  if bcm43xx...good luck.. :P
[16:55] <manawenuz> amenado: i've visited it , it is web based , ours is client based , which installs on M$
[16:55] <Toyota4Runner> Thank you Tech0007
[16:55] <Koheleth> it was the server, I changed and its ok now, thanks
[16:55] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, ihey don't look at me. 'm just another newbie in need of assistance from the gods..
[16:55] <Cygoku> Is the DVD version of Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron anywhere ?!?!
[16:55] <liamrharvey> amenado i have a dell 1390 WLAN MiniCard
[16:56] <ikex> is anyone else having problems with really staticy sound (im using NVIDIA hda mcp51)
[16:56] <schnootop> Krimpet, best to ask in the Firefox channel, it might even be in the Firefox options
[16:56] <tombar_> is there any way i can display a xfce like menu under gnome ?
[16:56] <O||y> i upgraded to 8.4 and things went wrong: my gfx aren't smoothe like they were bofore and i got a load of errors during the update (basically saying that the particular file would not be configured).  now when it loads up my gfx aren't as smoothe as they were before and it isn't using the right driver.  plus when i try to alter my screen resolution it comed up with error "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resoluti
[16:56] <O||y> on changes to the display size are not available."  anyone any ideas or should i reinstall from scratch? LOL
[16:56] <jbroome> manawenuz: if it installs a client, then it probably won't work on linux.  i imagine there's some acivex trickery involved
[16:56] <balle_> i am having problems using my mouse properly, when it is plugged in and i boot, it is incredibly slow, but the mousepad works fine, and when i plug the mouse in post-reboot it doesnt work at all, and no light underneath, what could be the problem?
[16:56] <Krimpet> schnootop: ah, good point, thanks. :)
[16:56] <Halsafar> Anyone lend any advice for getting the Hyper-V Integration Components for Linux installed in hardy ?
[16:56] <ingo_> "The greeter application appears to be crashing - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message @ startup????
[16:56] <bazhang> !torrents | Cygoku best to use these ;]
[16:56] <ubotu> Cygoku best to use these ;]: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[16:56] <amenado> manawenuz-> okay, thats clearer, now at the far end, its an ubuntu firewall/server with proxy running on it too?
[16:56] <Martiini> unetbootin question .. I gave unetbootin a Sidux iso to install but the kenel stops with message "Begin: Waiting for root file system ..." I have googled that kernel message but I still have no clue. I dont even know which kernel is being booted
[16:56] <Krimpet> it seems like a weird default for hardy
[16:56] <manawenuz> amenado: yeah on both ends it does
[16:57] <danbhfive> O||y: you could try installing ubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <doug2266778822> bazhang: how do i do the md5 sum?
[16:57] <danbhfive> O||y: or ubuntu-desktop^
[16:57] <amenado> manawenuz-> and with the working windoz to ubuntu, where do you point (ip address) your windoz client ?
[16:57] <ubuntung-pinoy> !md5
[16:57] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[16:57] <bazhang> doug2266778822: did you read the !md5 link?
[16:57] <connor_> I have a really strange problem when i install my graphics card drivers all my audio loops. And my audio wont work without them it works fine
[16:57] <connor_> i used the restricted rivers manager
[16:57] <ubuntung-pinoy> !md5 | ﻿doug2266778822
[16:57] <ubotu> ﻿doug2266778822: please see above
[16:57] <dystopianray> connor_: are you using hdmi output of your video card or something?
[16:57] <connor_> oh and this is 8.04
[16:57] <jbroome> did Amaranth just ban himself?
[16:57] <manawenuz> amenado: i don't get you , if you mean , my test windoze laptop ??
[16:58] <bazhang> Martiini: does it not have to download stuff from the internet?
[16:58] <Bert_2> Hi, I'm trying to get this game working with the right resolution and they say here ( http://forums.introversion.co.uk/uplink/viewtopic.php?t=37804&highlight=resolution ) that I should use Xnest, but I don't understand how it works, can someone explain me ?
[16:58] <connor_> no just vga
[16:58] <DBautell> bazhang, actually, looks like ubotu already has it under control with !root
[16:58] <PhantomStrike> How do you upgrade your distribution from the command line; for example, using apt. Do you just change the repos to hardy?
[16:58] <amenado> liamrharvey-> you have to wait perhaps, im assisting another one at the moment
[16:58] <O||y> danbhfive> I have - i upgraded from gutsy to hardy last night and it all went wrong.  thing is i wana keep my settings if i can
[16:58] <Amaranth> jbroome: Yeah, was testing a bot
[16:58] <bazhang> DBautell: nice catch! ;]
[16:58] <manawenuz> manawenuz: i've chose the server to assign 192.168.2  ip's to clients
[16:58] <balle_> i am having problems using my mouse properly, when it is plugged in and i boot, it is incredibly slow, but the mousepad works fine, and when i plug the mouse in post-reboot it doesnt work at all, and no light underneath, what could be the problem?
[16:58] <elhoir> hello.... anyone knows what about server saturation right now?
[16:58] <manawenuz> amenado: i've chose the server to assign 192.168.2  ip's to clients
[16:58] <danbhfive> O||y: ok, did you try what I suggested?  its all I got atm
[16:59] <elhoir> i want to upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[16:59] <jbroome> !upgrade | elhoir
[16:59] <ubotu> elhoir: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[16:59] <manawenuz> amenado: so the windoze got an ip in that range
[16:59] <amenado> manawenuz-> yes your windows client (laptop?) where do you point the client to?  and what is your clients own ip address to begin wtih?
[16:59] <bazhang> PhantomStrike: sure; then update and dist-upgrade
[16:59] <doug2266778822> bazhang: sorry must have missed it.
[16:59] <askand> Anyone had any luck with sharing folders in Hardy?
[16:59] <PhantomStrike> bazhang: thanks!
[16:59] <kiroh> hi do someone know how to remove files from a read only filesistem??
[16:59] <elhoir> what about server saturation?
[16:59] <connor_> anyone know why my audio loops when my ati raedon x1950 drivers are installed i used restricted drivers manager this is 8.04
[16:59] <roocraig> i have a problem with connecting to the internet. My wireless card picks up the close networks, but when I go to connect to the network it won't connect-can I get some help please-it will connect in vista though no problem
[16:59] <jbroome> kiroh: that kinda defeats the purpose of a ro fs
[16:59] <bazhang> doug2266778822: what! only 1546 people in here ;]
[17:00] <manawenuz> amenado: i've pointed it to my local ip address which is 192.168.1.2 , and i've also configured portforwarding , and firewall correctly
[17:00] <manawenuz> amenado: on my dsl router i mean
[17:00] <dystopianray> connor_: what sound card do you have?
[17:00] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, is this the right place for the envyng thing -->http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/envyng-gtk/ ??
[17:00] <doug2266778822> bazhang: lol i know not many peeps but im really busy trying to find more on this. in the process.
[17:00] <Cygoku> Are the repos baclup ??
[17:00] <MrObvious> I was using at home (I'm at work now) the b43 driver for my BCM94311 chipset and WPA encryption and got it to only connect at a max. of maybe 5Mbps instead of a full 54. Does anyone have any ideas.
[17:00] <kiroh> ﻿jbroome: but that was my home partition
[17:00] <connor_> its an intel realtek alc880
[17:00] <ikex> is anyone else having problems with really staticy sound (im using NVIDIA hda mcp51)
[17:00] <connor_> it works fine without the graphics drivers installed
[17:00] <jbroome> kiroh: then you have a bigger problem
[17:00] <roocraig> anywireless gurus here?
[17:00] <Cygoku> Are the repositories baclup again ??
[17:01] <kiroh> ﻿jbroome: i know
[17:01] <Moc> Is there a way to put a light source inside the cube ?
[17:01] <dystopianray> MrObvious: is it faster with ndiswrapper or in windows?
[17:01] <amenado> manawenuz-> okay so your client uses your local ip address which is for sake of arugment 192.168.1.2  ?
[17:01] <jbroome> !slow | Cygoku
[17:01] <ubotu> Cygoku: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:01] <ddrplayer512> I don't think so... :(
[17:01] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | ubuntung-pinoy this should be it; is it the same?
[17:01] <ubotu> ubuntung-pinoy this should be it; is it the same?: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[17:01] <Moc> then background is transparent, I find the inside of the cube to lack lightning
[17:01] <liamrharvey> can anybody help me i have a dell laptop with a dell 1390 WLAN MiniCard and are having problems connecting with my wifi on ubuntu 7.10
[17:01] <MrObvious> dystopianray: No clue on ndis with Hardy but in Gutsy I had it set up before. And also in Vista it works fine. It's a software problem with b43.
[17:01] <manawenuz> amenado: my windows client is 192.168.1.3 and the computer which runs VPN server is 192.168.1.2
[17:01] <Cygoku> There is no way to get packages without apt-get ??
[17:02] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, doesn't seem like it.. i've got one file in it.. envyng-gtk_1.1.1ubuntu1_all.deb 11-Apr-2008 22:04   94K
[17:02] <liamrharvey> can anybody help me i have a dell laptop with a dell 1390 WLAN MiniCard and are having problems connecting with my wifi on ubuntu 7.10
[17:02] <bazhang> Cygoku: add/remove and synaptic as well
[17:02] <kiroh> ﻿jbroome: i was tring to install with unetbootin
[17:02] <Jack_Sparrow> aptitude :)
[17:02] <amenado> manawenuz-> this is where i need more explanations,  elaborate on your network  layout.. you have a dsl/router/ then a VPN server? then clients connect to vpn server and not directly to the dsl/router?
[17:02] <Pokit> I installed some updates for ubuntu 7.10, and it changed my /boot/grub/menu.lst file.  now the only windowsxp option on bootup takes me to safe mode. how do i fix this?
[17:02] <dystopianray> MrObvious: try using ndiswrapper
[17:02] <Koheleth> reboot
[17:02] <jbroome> all of which still use the *.archive mirrors that are bogged down
[17:02] <roocraig> 8.04 will connect to other networks, but the one i have at home it won't. The pc is correct also
[17:02] <bazhang> oops aptitude as well Cygoku ;]
[17:02] <liamrharvey> can anybody help me i have a dell laptop with a dell 1390 WLAN MiniCard and are having problems connecting with my wifi on ubuntu 7.10
[17:03] <MrObvious> dystopianray: :\
[17:03] <AaronMT> !ndiswrapper
[17:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:03] <jbroome> !patience | liamrharvey
[17:03] <ubotu> liamrharvey: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[17:03] <amenado> !patience | liamrharvey
[17:03] <Cygoku> I mean, I need to install ntfs-3g ... I need to rly wait ??
[17:03] <jbroome> amenado: too slow. :)
[17:03] <amenado> hehe
[17:03] <MrObvious> liamrharvey: What chipset does it use? Use the command lspci | grep bcm to see.
[17:03] <nwillett> so are the update servers overwhelmed right now?
[17:03] <bazhang> liamrharvey: I think they want you to be patient ;]
[17:03] <AaronMT> !traffic
[17:03] <jbroome> !slow | nwillett
[17:03] <manawenuz> amenado: i have a DSL router which connects to a hub , and my clients have connected to hub as well , i've assigned DMZ on my dsl router
[17:03] <sigma> hello folks. the tracker search tool doesn't search for anything, it just automatically returns "no search results found." system monitor reports that both trackerd and tracker-applet are running. any suggestions?
[17:03] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[17:03] <amenado> manawenuz-> and the VPN server is an ubuntu box right?
[17:03] <bazhang> ubotu lag
[17:03] <ubotu> nwillett: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:03] <manawenuz> amenado: yeah
[17:04] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[17:04] <ubuntung-pinoy> oh my.. the lags
[17:04] <amenado> manawenuz-> so you have another ubuntu client besides the VPN server?
[17:04] <manawenuz> amenado: yeah but it's not on my network
[17:04] <assane> slt
[17:05] <bazhang> !hi | assane
[17:05] <ubotu> assane: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:05] <manawenuz> amenado: i have ssh access and also freenx remotedesktop access to it
[17:05] <Pokit> ubuntu 7.10 updates changed my /boot/grub/menu.lst file and the only option for windowsXP makes it boot in safe mode. how do i fix this?
[17:05] <kiroh> ﻿do someone know how to remove files from a read only filesistem??
[17:05] <nwillett> kk, so if accessing the repositories is basically not going to work right now will that mess up an install of 8.04...i.e. should i just wait?
[17:05] <assane> je doi installer vpn
[17:05] <assane> kelun pe maider
[17:05] <amenado> manawenuz-> this were it gets interesting, why is your client not on that same network as your windoz client ? its okay i just want to understand how it gets acces to that subnet
[17:05] <assane> sui sur la version 8 de ubuntu
[17:05] <jbroome> !english | assane
[17:05] <ubotu> assane: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[17:05] <bod_> hey guys -- just upgraded from 8.04 beta (with sound) to 8.04 (no sound) anyone else experienced this?
[17:05] <MrObvious> nwillett: Are you trying to use apt/synaptic or actually download Ubuntu?
[17:05] <Lunar_Lamp> !acrobat
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, sorry for the nagging, but is this -->     [envyng-gtk_1.1.1ubuntu1_all.deb ]    what u were talking about?
[17:05] <Lunar_Lamp> !acroread
[17:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acroread - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:05] <bazhang> !vpn | assane
[17:05] <ubotu> assane: From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[17:06] <manawenuz> amenado: you're getting me wrong ,
[17:06] <manawenuz> amenado: my windoze and ubuntu vpn server are on the same subnet
[17:06] <nwillett> just use apt/synaptic...I've got the torrent version of the install iso already burned and everything. I'm just concerned about updates/apt hanging and messing up things when I install
[17:06] <amenado> manawenuz-> the more we dig into this it gets more interesting, can you kindly draw a layout so its easier to follow? a nice drawing speaks a thousand words
[17:06] <manawenuz> amenado: but the other ubuntu box isn't
[17:06] <sherkin> Hi,
[17:06] <sherkin> I have a small problem with filenames with accents on a data dvd.
[17:06] <sherkin> I used convmv  -f cp850 -t utf8
[17:06] <sherkin> to fix the names of the files copied from the dvd to my hard disk.
[17:06] <sherkin> Now, I'd like to find how to mount the dvd in a way to avoid this
[17:06] <sherkin> problem.
[17:06] <FloodBot2> sherkin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <Koheleth> hi
[17:06] <MrObvious> !enter | sherkin
[17:06] <ubotu> sherkin: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:06] <bazhang> ubuntung-pinoy: no worries! the best bet is to wait until the repos are up again
[17:06] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm a bad drawer :(
[17:06] <manawenuz> amenado: but i will
[17:07] <amenado> manawenuz-> yes i gather that from what you said so far..so i need to find out how these devices are inter-linked
[17:07] <bazhang> !paste > sherkin
[17:07] <Koheleth> Google earth does not like desktop effects, what!
[17:07] <manawenuz> gimme your email
[17:07] <ubuntung-pinoy> bazhang, alright.... thanks
[17:07] <alberto> hi
[17:07] <bazhang> manawenuz: pastebin it please
[17:07] <alberto> is there a channel for ubuntu mac?
[17:07] <amenado> manawenuz-> just paste it in pastebing or some sites that allows drawings to be uploaded
[17:08] <sherkin> I thought my question would be clearer in one block
[17:08] <bazhang> manawenuz: or imageshack
[17:08] <alberto> is there a channel for ubuntu mac?
[17:08] <myf> .....repo is still down?
[17:08] <cube> how do i get rid of the border on my icons specificly for image files
[17:08] <sherkin> Sorry its taken as a flood attempt!
[17:08] <jbroome> myf: not down, just slow
[17:08] <bazhang> myf: aye
[17:08] <thatguy> ubuntung-pinoy, i followed the forum's advice, but when i try "sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.24-12-generic -c" it returns: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-generic
[17:08] <thatguy> Cannot find /lib/modules/2.6.24-12-generic
[17:08] <thatguy> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-12-generic
[17:08] <thatguy> "
[17:08] <ubuntung-pinoy> !mac | alberto
[17:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:08] <FloodBot2> thatguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <ingo_> "The greeter application appears to be crashing - . Attempting to use a different one" - how can i fix this message @ startup????
[17:08] <rsidss> does anyone know how to setup a 3monitor configuration in ubuntu (7.10) (1x GF, 1x ATI)
[17:08] <amenado> manawenuz-> http://www.litetext.com/  is another
[17:08] <Bleckm> I'm having a problem after installing Hardy Heron, did a fresh install, and I'm getting dropping into a busybox shell, I posted the output from recovery mode here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30575
[17:09] <myf> jbroome: my update-manager couldn't handle it, it turned gray (with compiz)
[17:09] <Zaqq> hi. My ethernet card 'Realtek RTL8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter' as detected under Device manager of Windwos XP is not detected on a fresh new install of hardy Heron. please help!
[17:09] <bazhang> !wifi | Zaqq
[17:09] <ubotu> Zaqq: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:09] <Lo_Pan> 8139 isn't wifi
[17:09]  * tech9iner whacks thingfish1 with a rolled up 'kde rules' poster muahahahah
[17:09] <Zaqq> bazhang: its a LAn card .. not a wireless lan card
[17:10] <amenado> thatguy do you have a directory called as that?   /lib/modules/2.6.24-12-generic   ?
[17:10] <AaronMT> and those wifidocs are severely outdated tutorials
[17:10] <nwillett> btw has anyone had 8.04 freeze whenever they tried to shutdown?
[17:10] <albech> Zaqq: is it found with lspci?
[17:10] <bazhang> Zaqq: what does ifconfig show
[17:10] <ubuntung-pinoy> !slow | thatguy
[17:10] <ubotu> thatguy: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:10] <Raits> evening
[17:10] <tech9iner> thingfish1: taint nothing but love forya pal0mine ;]]
[17:10] <ifireball> Zaqq: how do you know it wasn't detected?
[17:10] <xaoslaad> Is there a reason the Update Manager halts at
[17:10] <sigma> hello folks. the tracker search tool doesn't search for anything, it just automatically returns "no search results found." system monitor reports that both trackerd and tracker-applet are running. any suggestions?
[17:10] <Pokit> installing ubuntu 7.10 updates messed up my bootload screen, what do i do in grub to get winxp back on bootloader
[17:10] <xaoslaad> Is there a reason the Update Manager halts at "Downloading file 15 of 24"?
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> !slow | xaoslaad
[17:10] <ubotu> xaoslaad: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:10] <bazhang> !slow | xaoslaad
[17:10] <Raits> is anybody here confident with using grub and troubleshooting booting issues?
[17:10] <Zaqq> albech: i am not so good at troubleshooting .. u can tell me the steps and i reboot into hardy and let u know when i come back to windows  xp
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> bazhang: slow
[17:11] <thatguy> amenado, the directory does not exist? is there a certain package i have to download
[17:11] <MrObvious> xaoslaad: Because the Ubuntu servers are getting pounded with people downloading Hardy. Switch your repository to something else.
[17:11] <bazhang> Odd-rationale: haha
[17:11] <thingfish1> hey tech9iner
[17:11] <alberto> is there a channel for ubuntu mac?
[17:11] <jbroome> alberto: no
[17:11] <Zaqq> ifireball: it says no network found .. and when i check the lan adapter list ... nothing is shown there
[17:11] <jbroome> here
[17:11] <alberto> jbroome: do you know what is ift-load?
[17:11] <xaoslaad> Alright, kind of figured; not used ubuntu before.. just giving it a whirl; not used to their particular update and package managers
[17:12] <Mapp> I need some help can anyone help me?
[17:12] <alberto> I installed isight-firmware-tools but there is no ift-load in the package
[17:12] <afallenhope> anyone know of an FTP client with a built in editor?
[17:12] <alberto> I need it
[17:12] <assane> apt-get install pptpd ipx ipxripd
[17:12] <bazhang> !ask | mapp
[17:12] <ubotu> mapp: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:12] <afallenhope> I know cuteftp does
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> xaoslaad: you can try chaning mirros
[17:12] <MrObvious> xaoslaad: Just type gksudo synaptic from an Alt+F2 run box then go to Settings -> Repositories and choose a new server from there. That's about the easiest way.
[17:12] <amenado> thatguy->  yes, I believed its  build-essentials package creates that dir... but the server is busy now to download anything
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> *mirrors
[17:12] <assane> kelkun pe me voir sa
[17:12] <sherkin> How can I mount a dvd-rom with codepage=850 ?
[17:12] <ferris_> is "nopci" the right option for booting into low graphics mode? (with the 7.**) disc?
[17:12] <albech> Zaqq: just type lspci in a shell
[17:12] <Zaqq> albech: i have google some C code which could be the driver ... but i have no clue how to compile the kernel
[17:12] <Zaqq> albech: ok .. and then?
[17:13] <bod_> just finished upgrading hardy but now my sound doesnt work -- my cardis recognized and nothing in alsamixer is muted -- any ideas?
[17:13] <albech> Zaqq: you shouldnt need to compile the kernel for get that nic working
[17:13] <amenado> thatguy so you may have to wait a day or two or a week ..slow downloads for now
[17:13] <Da_Wi> hello, i have a question to security in ubuntu. I read the article in the (german) wiki, but i don't understand it. If there is a better chan to ask, please say me the name. My question: Why don't need ubuntu a firewall (standard install), or better: it is useless?
[17:13] <[0]ZDK-Mus_home> ыва
[17:13] <[0]ZDK-Mus_home> фыва
[17:13] <[0]ZDK-Mus_home> ыва
[17:13] <[0]ZDK-Mus_home>  
[17:13] <FloodBot2> [0]ZDK-Mus_home: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <[0]ZDK-Mus_home> фыв
[17:13] <AaronMT> !ufw | Da_Wi
[17:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ufw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:13] <albech> Zaqq: lspci will list the devices found on your system
[17:13] <Leerok> Iva, fiva, iva?
[17:13] <ubuntung-pinoy> !nopci | ferris
[17:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopci - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:13] <AaronMT> Uncomplicated Firewall
[17:13] <Zaqq> ok after lspci .. what next? reboot and show u the output? if found wht do i do next?
[17:13] <assane> ce forom c anglais ou francais
[17:13] <AaronMT> sudo ufw enable
[17:14] <albech> Zaqq: if it show that NIC try ifconfig afterwards and see what it say
[17:14] <bazhang> !fr | assane
[17:14] <ubotu> assane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:14] <bleaked> is anyone else having trouble loading compiz with the fglrx drivers in hardy?  i've been doing a ton of research, and it appears that no one is able to get compiz to work in hardy, despite all of these people having no trouble in gutsy..
[17:14] <AaronMT> Ubuntu's Firewall - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFirewall
[17:14] <Zaqq> ok.. am writing this down.. and wht will ifconfig show me?
[17:14] <xaoslaad> that worked, thank you; good old reliable uk mirror service
[17:14] <albech> a list of interfaces
[17:14] <AaronMT> bleaked, I am running compiz perfectly fine using ATI's Restricted Drivers
[17:14] <Da_Wi> AaronMT, thx
[17:14] <bazhang> Zaqq:  it will show eth0 and lo hopefully
[17:15] <Raits> Could anyone help me troubleshoot booting issues i am having with xp. I reformated my ubuntu feisty install today and on reboot i couldn't boot into either OS because grub had the wrong menu items in it. I finally managed to boot into ubuntu now, but when i try to boot where i think xp is installed it just hangs. Other partitions i've tryed for xp give the "no ntldr" error on grub.
[17:15] <Bleckm> I'm having a problem after installing Hardy Heron, did a fresh install, and I'm getting dropped into a busybox shell, I posted the output from recovery mode here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30575
[17:15] <albech> Zaqq: what bazhang said
[17:15] <bleaked> AaronMT: see, i've always been able to.. dapper - gutsy no issues.. but now, on a fresh hardy install, it will not load.. everything else is rather snappy though
[17:15] <ubuntung-pinoy> ferris, if i'm not mistaken nictools-nopci is a set of Diagnostic tools for many non-PCI ethernet cards
[17:15] <Lr5> Strange, removing icedtea-gcjwebplugin solved the problems I had with java plugin
[17:15] <manawenuz> amenado: http://www.litetext.com/faz3
[17:15] <Zaqq> bazhang and albech : ok .. i'll come back and tell u wht i found ... any thing after finding my etho listed under ifconfig?
[17:16] <Lr5> it apparently overrode other settings
[17:16] <balle_> !themes
[17:16] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[17:16] <Mapp> I have been having trouble updating Hardy with the update manager
[17:16] <bazhang> Zaqq: that should do it for now
[17:16] <albech> Zaqq: yes check which ip number is assigned to eth0 if any
[17:16] <Zaqq> ok.. g'bye
[17:16] <Zaqq> ok thanks
[17:16] <rothchild> can anyone reccomend a gui configurator for synaptic touch pad, my scrolling has gone crazy
[17:16] <amenado> manawenuz-> you have ip address attached to those? and which ubuntu client do you have that is not connecting?
[17:17] <ferris_> when using the live cd, if i boot with any of the options on the boot menu, I get mis-aligned graphics on screen... what to do? what to do?
[17:17] <ferris_> is there a way to start the installation at the boot menu?
[17:17] <ferris_> that would be fine too
[17:17] <bazhang> 1560? is that all you've got? ;]
[17:17] <ubuntung-pinoy> ferris, there should be.. option no.3 i think
[17:17] <sherkin> MrObvious:  How can I mount a dvd-rom with codepage=850 ?
[17:18] <sigma> running ubuntu hardy; tracker search tool doesn't search for anything, it just automatically returns "no search results found." system monitor reports that both trackerd and tracker-applet are running. any suggestions?
[17:18] <grzyb> I/O wait - about 90% cpu usage in hardy after connecting usb devices, any idea ?
[17:18] <amenado> rothchild-> you may have to turn off  --   Option "VertScrollDelta"  "0" in xorg.conf for your synaptics
[17:18] <bazhang> !alternate | ferris_ try this perhaps it may help
[17:18] <ubotu> ferris_ try this perhaps it may help: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[17:18] <MrObvious> sherkin: Google it? I really don't know. Sorry.
[17:18] <Raits> Could anyone help me troubleshoot booting issues i am having with xp. I reformated my ubuntu feisty install to a hardy one today and on reboot i couldn't boot into either OS because grub had the wrong menu items in it. I finally managed to boot into ubuntu now, but when i try to boot where i think xp is installed it just hangs. Other partitions i've tryed for xp give the "no ntldr" error on grub.
[17:18] <AaronMT> ROthchild, hehe nice nickname, good short-story. Rothchild's violin
[17:18] <manawenuz> amenado: can you wait for few minutes ?
[17:18] <Mimi> In Session Properties, if I want Gnome to forget about my saved sessions...  and to go with the stuff that's on "StartUp Programs" only.. What would I do? :P
[17:18] <amenado> rothchild-> you may have to turn off  --   Option "VertScrollDelta"  "0"  and HorizScrollDelta tooin xorg.conf for your synaptics
[17:19] <armada> hi
[17:19] <amenado> manawenuz-> i have to use the high chair (commode) be back in a few too
[17:19] <manawenuz> amenado: ok
[17:19] <rothchild> thanks amenado
[17:19] <sherkin> MrObvious:  Thank you. I *always*  rtfm and google before any attempt on forum or irc
[17:19] <bazhang> too much information ;]
[17:19] <kakado> Raits: do you have more than one harddrive?
[17:19] <dbristow> anybody have any info about the mismatching MD5SUMS line for wubi.exe?
[17:19] <rothchild> I don't want to turn scrolling off I just want to stop the slightest touch taking me to the bottom of the page
[17:19] <Raits> kakado: yes
[17:19] <MrObvious> sherkin: Sorry I can't be much help. No need to flame me. I don't even know why you asked me specifically for help instead of the channel in general.
[17:20] <Mimi> dbristow:  if its mismatched, you need to re-download :(
[17:20] <Mimi> or reburn, whichever you did
[17:20] <armada> Which is the best Flash Plugin to use with firefox on ubuntu? I get these 3 choices: Swfdec player, Adobe Flash Player, Gnash SWF player
[17:20] <ubuntung-pinoy> !md5 | ﻿dbristow
[17:20] <ubotu> ﻿dbristow: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[17:20] <dbristow> Mimi: I download from 3 different mirrors, they all give the same sum which doesn't match the MD5SUMS line
[17:20] <bazhang> armada: sadly the flash
[17:20] <SirBob1701_> hey i updated to 8.04 and now my think pads volume buttons don't work. anyone know a fix?
[17:20] <dave11> why do they hide the md5 sums in such a unfindable location instead of right on the home, i had to open up the irc chat and click on one of the topic links to find them?
[17:20] <rick111> hey guys, anyone tried network chess? it seems you can't play
[17:20] <armada> bazhang, so adobe?
[17:20] <rohan> is it me, or is archive.ubuntu.com *hell* slow atm?
[17:20] <dbristow> let me check them again
[17:20] <Raits> kakado: it has the map hd(1) hd(0) and map hd(0) hd(1) done
[17:20] <bazhang> armada: aye ;[
[17:20] <sherkin> I was  flamed for flooding
[17:21] <joneskoo> can I install ubuntu 8.04 from debian etch? I want to boot ubuntu 8.04 over PXE/NFS-root, but only have a debian etch host to bootstrap from
[17:21] <mosno> hrm, i wonder why sound is crackly in Neverball.... any ideas?
[17:21] <bazhang> rohan it is everyone
[17:21] <rick111> network chess, connection details are just greyed out ;(
[17:21] <cman> i love ubuntu!!
[17:21] <Mimi> dave11:  I never had any trouble looking for them (just scroll down the download page i think and its there) and i only burned ubuntu to a cd twice in my life
[17:21] <armada> cman, agreed
[17:21] <manawenuz> cman: me too :)
[17:21] <Mapp> When i go into the update manager i can't install all of my updates, it tells me that is can't and it is probably a network connection issue but my internet is fine?
[17:21] <rohan> bazhang: ah ok, thanks.. and fwiw, i'm in hardy kubuntu installed using pen drive :)
[17:21] <Dim252> How install driver and compiz for ATI video card?? (x1150 notebook dell 1501)??
[17:21] <sigma> cman: yeah i'd say it's pretty decent
[17:21] <Mimi> Mapp:  go to system, administration, software sources
[17:21] <bazhang> !yay | rohan
[17:21] <sigma> Dim252: www.ubuntu1501.com
[17:21] <dassouki> my sound driver stopped working after i upgraded
[17:21] <ubotu> rohan: Glad you made it! :-)
[17:21] <ubuntung-pinoy> !slow | ﻿Mapp
[17:21] <ubotu> ﻿Mapp: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:21] <rick111> no network chess experts? ;p
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hi
[17:21] <cman> yeah i feel you on that
[17:21] <Rynux91> I need help getting my wireless internet connection to work :S
[17:22] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: hi!
[17:22] <Dim252> sigma  :)
[17:22] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i cant send you PM's
[17:22] <Mapp> thank you
[17:22] <sigma> Dim252: that blog is like my bible
[17:22] <Odd-rationale> !register | arvind_khadri
[17:22] <ubotu> arvind_khadri: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[17:22] <icqnumber> do some one know username and password to test ubuntu as live cd, its crapy, that i am asked to log in, tryed 32bit, and 64 bit ubuntu versiona, md5sums are ok
[17:22] <cman> how do i join a new server?
[17:23] <ikonia> icqnumber: there is something wrong with your setup
[17:23] <ikonia> icqnumber: we discussed this earlier
[17:23] <arvind_khadri> Odd-rationale, thats ok :) he had disabled it :)
[17:23] <icqnumber> !password
[17:23] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[17:23] <dbristow> a96aa69961f3ed80dd7a88fae1e28196  wubi.exe
[17:23] <AaronMT> !root
[17:23] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:23] <Mimi> Mapp:  we can get a better one working for you so go to sofware sources,.... then on that window look on the center,  click where it says Download From... then "Other" then "select the best server" let it do its thing, then click Choose server, close, and youre good to go :)
[17:23] <dbristow> that's what I just downloaded from releases.ubuntu.com
[17:23] <icqnumber> ikonia, you did not replyed anything, on my last message to you
[17:23] <dbristow> cdd32124f23b455b0aa22cc3ff35ff35 *wubi.exe
[17:23] <rohan> bazhang: yay indeed o/ :)
[17:23] <ikonia> icqnumber: I had to leave my desk
[17:23] <Mimi> In Session Properties, if I want Gnome to forget about my saved sessions...  and to go with the stuff that's on "StartUp Programs" only.. What would I do? :P
[17:23] <dbristow> that is what is in the MD5SUMS file in the same folder on releases.ubuntu.com
[17:24] <amazen720> just did a new install of 8.04, desktop effects is sticky leaves little lines on screen
[17:24] <SirBob1701_> hey i updated to 8.04 and now my think pads volume buttons don't work. anyone know a fix?
[17:24] <dbristow> I just used vanilla ftp ( with binary mode, of course ) to retrieve wubi.exe
[17:24] <icqnumber> ikonia, so we have not disscussed that till the end
[17:24] <ikonia> icqnumber: no we have not, but you keep asking for username/password - there isn't one
[17:24] <brakkvatn> Should I install i386 or x64 version of ubuntu on my Centrino laptop?
[17:24] <Mapp> thank you again mimi
[17:24] <ikonia> brakkvatn: up to you and depends on what your cpu supports
[17:24] <kakado> Raits: ok, that's what I was thinking of
[17:24] <ubuntung-pinoy> ﻿SirBob1701_:  probably need Restricted Drivers manager to fix that for ya
[17:24] <Mimi> icqnumber:  Are you trying to assign  a password to root?
[17:24] <MrObvious> brakkvatn: There probably isn't much reason to avoid 64 bit.
[17:24] <dbristow> I really think the MD5SUMS line for wubi.exe isn't correct
[17:24] <Mimi> Welcome Mapp
[17:24] <twinkie_addict> how is the 64 bit versions app suport ?
[17:25] <ikonia> twinkie_addict: fine for 64bit compatible programs
[17:25] <SirBob1701_> ubuntung-pinoy: a specific driver? i do have the manager install
[17:25] <BlinkyToon> Raits: try here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:25] <bazhang> twinkie_addict: 50/50
[17:25] <panda> Ralink rt2870 Kernel 2.6.24 [PATCH INSTRUCTIONS] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766850
[17:25] <At0x0> I have libfreetype6 and openoffice (2.4) installed. After I upgraded to Heron, a bunch of my fonts disappeared, like arial/verdana. Where can I get my Window-y fonts back from?
[17:25] <brakkvatn> MrObvious: Can I install skype, quakewars and flash on x64 bit?
[17:25] <icqnumber> ikonia, how comes that i am redirected to the gnome login  page?
[17:25] <CyberCod> Woot!  finally installed!
[17:25] <twinkie_addict> so not realy worth the swich for desktop yet
[17:25] <Raits> kakado: any other thoughts on the situation? It displays the starting up message and then just hangs there
[17:25] <ikonia> icqnumber: thats the bit that no-one understands
[17:25] <unclemike> anyone in here notce pulseaudio useing cpu when pulse isent even being used
[17:25] <bod_> can anyone help me debug a sound issue plz, it was workin fine till i upgraded from beta to full release now no sound, but the sound card is recognized and nothing is muted in alsamixer ive reloaded the alsa modules --i cant think of anything else,.,.any thoughts???
[17:25] <manawenuz> amenado: are you back ?
[17:25] <RemuS> hi I need help, why cant I set higher resolution than 800x600@60Hz???? This monitor is capable of 1024x768@85
[17:25] <ROBOd> hello guys
[17:25] <Mimi> At0x0:  go to Add/Remove search for 'core font' without the quotes. install microsoft core
[17:26] <ubuntung-pinoy> ﻿SirBob1701_: u should by default. System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[17:26] <SirBob1701_> ubuntung-pinoy: a specific driver? i do have the manager installed
[17:26] <ikonia> icqnumber: your just running a straight ubuntu 8.04 cd - no wubi, no virtual machine, just booting from that cd, yes/no ?
[17:26] <icqnumber> Mimi, no just inserted cd in the cdrom and trying to test it as livecd
[17:26] <panda> JPSmon : were you saying earlier you were having issues with ralink drivers?
[17:26] <SirBob1701_> ubuntung-pinoy:  ya i have it.  theres nothing in it those
[17:26] <icqnumber> ikonia, yes, you are right
[17:26] <ROBOd> i am trying to update ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04, it gets stuck with "checking package manager", several "http" sub-processes open
[17:26] <Mimi> In Session Properties, if I want Gnome to forget about my saved sessions...  and to go with the stuff that's on "StartUp Programs" only.. What would I do? :P
[17:26] <dundel> ttp://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/45896-1.jpg
[17:26] <dave11> does the dvd version live cd contain more programs than the cd version?
[17:26] <ubuntung-pinoy> ﻿SirBob1701_: hav u tried enabling third party sources thru preferences?
[17:26] <otarid> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/de.png :<
[17:26] <dundel> how do you get that mouse button menu
[17:26] <rohan> in ubuntu 8.04 after i type any aptitude command, e.g. "sudo aptitude install mplayer", the complete system hangs for a fraction of a second. can someone please tell if this behaviour is normal?
[17:26] <SirBob1701_> ubuntung-pinoy: no i'll try now
[17:26] <Mimi> yes dave11
[17:26] <ROBOd> what shall i do? i am using a local mirror which works fine - proper speed
[17:27] <ikonia> icqnumber: I can only suggest pressing F2 at boot time to remove teh splash screen and look out for any warnings/errors on boot up
[17:27] <dave11> Mimi: thanks
[17:27] <Rynux91> Does anyone know how to get a laptop's integrated wireless network device to connect to a WEP hexidecimal network?
[17:27] <RemuS> an anybody possibly help me ?
[17:27] <anacaona> hello - having problems doing an upgrade from cdrom. first line of error message is tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[17:27] <Odd-rationale> dave11: the dvd has the live, alternative, and server disk all in one
[17:27] <Raits> kakado: would it help if i pasted the grub menu.lst lines for xp?
[17:27] <|Dreams|> where does java stand with ubuntu 8.04 on amd64? do i still have to install 32bit firefox?
[17:27] <MrObvious> brakkvatn: Flash can be made to work, no clue on skype or quakewars. Lemme look.
[17:27] <dave11> Odd-rationale: ok thanks
[17:27] <Pokit> i'm having problems with grub and putting windowsxp in the bootloader. using "root (hd0,0)" puts me into windows safe mode. how do i fix that
[17:27] <kakado> Raits: ok
[17:27] <icqnumber> ikonia, i did tell you the message, i can press alt ctrl f1, and read it
[17:27] <MrObvious> brakkvatn: I'd imagine so.
[17:27] <amenado>  okay am back.
[17:27] <albech> Pokit: delete windows ;)
[17:28] <ikonia> icqnumber: I've not seen the message, sorry
[17:28] <Pokit> albech :(
[17:28] <brakkvatn> MrObvious: So 32bit binaries always work on 64bit kernels?
[17:28] <albech> Pokit: j/k
[17:28] <amazen720> apt-get update hangs to long, synaptic also takes too long for the download part
[17:28] <RemuS> Is there anyone experienced?
[17:28] <ikonia> brakkvatn: no
[17:28] <frostburn> Anyone know why compiz edge buttons suddenly stop working? 64bit 8.04
[17:28] <brakkvatn> ikonia: When does it not work?
[17:28] <dbristow> !md5sum
[17:28] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[17:28] <AaronMT> !traffic
[17:28] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[17:28] <HayHay> Hi, What's good player to install that will play a music CD that's .wav file?
[17:28] <icqnumber> ikonia, "user not known to the underlying authentication module"
[17:28] <ikonia> brakkvatn: then a.) thre is no 32bit compatability mode in the kernel b.) missing 32bit environment to run the 32bit code
[17:28] <bazhang> RemuS: the experienced ones are on leave; we are taking their place
[17:28] <AaronMT> !slow
[17:28] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:29] <ikonia> icqnumber: thats not at boot up though
[17:29] <rohan> HayHay: any player will play it
[17:29] <komputes> Oh my, i just accidentally erased a note in Tomboy, whats the easiest way to recuperate from (trash?) Please help...
[17:29] <Dark-Fx> Anyone want to do me a favor? I just changed the setup my mirror has and I need to load it to test it out. http://lug.mtu.edu/ubuntu-releases/8.04/
[17:29] <ikonia> icqnumber: or is it ?
[17:29] <icqnumber> ikonia, it is!
[17:29] <HayHay> rohan: thanks
[17:29] <gullstad> Hello. How do I unmount a file I have mounted whit "mount -o"?
[17:29] <ikonia> icqnumber: then I cannot explain it if the md5's match up
[17:29] <pjoul> komputes: no way
[17:29] <twinkie_addict> torent was way faster :) and thanks to wubi i didnt have to wast a cd :)
[17:30] <ikonia> gullstad: umount
[17:30] <pjoul> gullstad: umount file
[17:30] <balle_> how do i install new themes on hardy?
[17:30] <icqnumber> there are no error massages during  the boot, all was [OK]
[17:30] <brakkvatn> ikonia: Will I lose much performance if I choose a 32 bit kernel, ikonia?
[17:30] <gullstad> ikonia, pjoul
[17:30] <pjoul> balle_: the same way as on gutsy
[17:30] <gullstad> Thanks
[17:30] <gullstad> ikonia, pjoul: Thanks
[17:30] <ikonia> brakkvatn: doubtful
[17:30] <icqnumber> ikonia, there are no error massages during  the boot, all was [OK]
[17:30] <amazen720> xserver-xgl doing word things
[17:30] <Mimi> balle_ right click desktop, select change background, theres lots of themes there and you can get more at gnome-look.org (.org or .com?)
[17:30] <dundel> ttp://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/45896-1.jpg how do yoy get that mouse button menu?
[17:30] <ikonia> icqnumber: and you pressed F2 to remove the boot spalsh
[17:30] <cirkit_> when I boot ubunu, for some reason nm-applet doesn't start with my session ... I have to manually execute 'nm-applet &' in the background to get it started. Anyone have a link for starting up nm-applet at boot?
[17:30] <balle_> ploul: system>preferences> themes does not exist
[17:30] <dbristow> so, nobody else is having trouble verifying the hash of wubi.exe?
[17:31] <gamalern> samba keeps crashing. WOrked fine in gutsy, anyone else have problems or just me.
[17:31] <amazen720> werid*
[17:31] <Raits> kakado: root (hd0,1)     savedefault     makeactive     map (hd0) (hd1)    map (hd1) (hd0)     chainloader +1
[17:31] <pjoul> balle_: appereance
[17:31] <Pokit> i'm having problems with grub and putting windowsxp in the bootloader. using "root (hd0,0)" puts me into windows safe mode. how do i fix that? i dont want to boot in safe mode ><
[17:31] <Mimi> dundel:  mouse button menu?
[17:31] <Halsafar> Anyone lend any advice for getting the Hyper-V Integration Components for Linux installed in hardy ? -- I get error "XEN Virtualization not enabled"
[17:31] <komputes> pjoul: it's erased, no way to recuperate?
[17:31] <amenado> manawenuz-> anything?
[17:31] <Raits> kakado: root(hd0,1) is the only one that would even attempt to boot
[17:31] <pjoul> komputes: no way - it's gone forever
[17:31] <Mimi> dundel:  you mean the blue glow when you run your mouse through the menu?
[17:31] <balle_> perfect thx!
[17:31] <komputes> pjoul: backup restore it is then
[17:31] <dundel> Mimi: no this http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/45896-1.jpg
[17:31] <icqnumber> ikonia, what for you want me to reboot it one more time, i have seen all messages!
[17:31] <dundel> mouse button menu
[17:31] <ron> any one had problems with lock file on firebox?
[17:31] <anacaona> hello - can anyone help me with a cdrom upgrade?
[17:31] <Mimi> In Session Properties, if I want Gnome to forget about my saved sessions...  and to go with the stuff that's on "StartUp Programs" only.. What would I do? :P
[17:31] <ikonia> Halsafar: are you using xen ?
[17:31] <amgad> dudes, why isn't there jigdo file for 8.04 desktop???
[17:32] <El1> Hi guys I'm having severe trouble enabling nvidia drivers on hardy, altho the install works fine, is there anybody who could assist me with this?
[17:32] <AaronMT> !envy
[17:32] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:32] <ikonia> icqnumber: did you press F2 at boot time to remove the boot splash and view the startup process
[17:32] <Mimi> dundel:  yes i saw the image, Im trying to understand what you mean, and thinking no one has responded yet becuse they don't understand the question... its  a pretty image ^_^
[17:32] <Halsafar> ikonia: I installed Ubuntu Hardy DVD into Hyper-V, install went fine, I have internet, just want to get the integration tools installed.
[17:32] <icqnumber> ikonia, are you from ubuntu team?
[17:32] <ikonia> icqnumber: did you press F2 at boot time to remove the boot splash and view the startup process
[17:32] <Cherryade> How do you disable the stupid CD player when you inserrt a disc on Hardy Heron? It used to be in System/Preferences/Removable Drives and Media, but it's not there anymore
[17:32] <tacone> why hardy optimization doesn't get applied to upgraded gutsies ? I still have /bin/sh -> bash, fstabs with no relatime and so on. Am I missing something ?
[17:32] <MrDakoki> hi all again!
[17:32] <icqnumber> ikonia, yes
[17:32] <dundel> Mimi: It's when you click your left mouse button, the gnome menu is showing up
[17:33] <MrBill> I have followed the directions at http://howtoforge.com/intrusion-detection-with-snort-mysql-apache2-on-ubuntu-7.10 and have snort and base running on my system, I would however like to configure my system to run the last line (snort -c /etc/snort/snort.conf -i eth0 -D) on boot up. I'm not sure how to do this though, can anyone tell me how/where to configure this line to run on boot?
[17:33] <El1> AaronNT: that's what I'm saying: install with envy works perfectly, tho when I restart X a window pops up saying it couldn't detect drivers etc and wants to run low-res, I've tried reconfiguring Xserver also
[17:33] <amenado> manawenuz-> anything?
[17:33] <ikonia> icqnumber: really so as it's booting you pressed F2 and the boot splash goes away
[17:33] <icqnumber> ikonia, i have tried two distros versions allready
[17:33] <ikonia> icqnumber: what do you see when the boot splash is gone ?
[17:33] <kakado> Raits: try: rootgrub> root (hd1,0)
[17:33] <kakado> grub> chainloader +1
[17:33] <kakado> grub> map (hd0) (hd1)
[17:33] <Invisionfree> How do I know if the Hardy upgrade is complete?
[17:33] <ikonia> Halsafar: doesn't it need xen to use the tools though (I'm not certain myself)
[17:33] <Pokit> anyone help with bootloader problems with grub? i cant get XP to boot right
[17:33] <andycaass> How to change synamptic update server?
[17:33] <aldin> how can i disable desktop effects without going to appearence tab?
[17:33] <pjoul> MrBill: /etc/rc.local is what you want
[17:33] <ibleed> how do i encrypt a partition that requires me to give a password when i want to access it (not on boot but manually) ?
[17:33] <mw1> stanela mi aktualizacja do harty robie przez update-manager
[17:33] <andycaass> My local mirror (ee.ubuntu) is down, i cant update/install anything.
[17:33] <mw1> na konfiguracja scrollkeeper
[17:34] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm back
[17:34] <mw1> nie chce robic od nowa
[17:34] <manawenuz> amenado: sorry
[17:34] <manawenuz> amenado: anything what ???
[17:34] <Invisionfree> How do I know if the Hardy upgrade is complete??
[17:34] <mw1> co moge zrobic zeby jakis ominac ten pakiet
[17:34] <bazhang> aldin: alt f2 metacity --replace
[17:34] <genii> MrBill: add bash to the first part then save the line into the file /etc/init.d/rc.local
[17:34] <HayHay> Trying to install - python-cddb form synaptics - but servers real slow. What is correct way to get this with Terminal - sudo apt-get - something?
[17:34] <Halsafar> Ikonia: I am not certain myself either.  I am somewhat green when it comes to virtualization.  Google resources on this are very limited at best.
[17:34] <ikonia> Invisionfree: it will stop downloading and installing packages
[17:34] <danbhfive> Invisionfree: how did you upgrade?
[17:34] <HayHay> from
[17:34] <rjonesx> so, I updated and now i cant open any programs, even the command line...
[17:34] <icqnumber> ikonia, ??? kernel messages, how all the stuff is loading
[17:34] <MrDakoki> is there any program similar to xmacro?
[17:34] <pjoul> Invisionfree: do apt-get dist-upgrade and you'll know
[17:34] <bazhang> !pl | mw1
[17:34] <ubotu> mw1: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:34] <ikonia> icqnumber: and there are no warnings at all
[17:34] <rjonesx> actually, i can open the tracker search tool
[17:34] <rohan> anyone got the problem of sound not working after install? my sound was working great from the livecd
[17:34] <rjonesx> that is it
[17:34] <Mapp> Mimi i did what you said and when i tried to install my updates again it said it couldn't download all the respiratory indexes
[17:34] <Invisionfree> From the command-line, how can I check if it's upgraded fully ..
[17:34] <amenado> manawenuz-> anything on your drawin, ip addresses? where is your ubuntu client ?
[17:34] <El1> is there anyone here good with installing nvidia drivers and can give me some assistance please? I'm really struggling with this
[17:34] <tacone> why hardy optimization doesn't get applied to upgraded gutsies ? I still have /bin/sh -> bash, fstabs with no relatime and so on. Am I missing something ?
[17:34] <icqnumber> ikonia, are you from ubuntu team or not?
[17:34] <pjoul> rjonesx: try reboot
[17:34] <ikonia> Halsafar: don't quote me, but I believe you need the xen kernel running
[17:34] <Z03> how can I get xmms to play .mp4 files ?
[17:34] <kakado> Raits: try:  root (hd1,0)  chainloader +1  map  (hd0) (hd1)    map (hd1) (hd0)
[17:34] <ikonia> icqnumber: no
[17:34] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm telling you it's temporary and the final network won't look like that (although it's simillar)
[17:34] <rjonesx> pjoul: i have rebooted several times
[17:35] <pjoul> tacone: if you want improvements then upgrade to hardy
[17:35] <grimboy> I've switched from gnome to wmii and my external harddrive (which was handled by gnome-volume-manager before) is no longer mounted. I'm not sure if gnome-volume-manager is still running or not. I'm still running gdm. Anyone have any idea how I get automatic mounting back?
[17:35] <tacone> pjoul: I did.
[17:35] <rjonesx> the only problem on reboot is an error about the wireless device (this is an x64 laptop)
[17:35] <amenado> manawenuz-> well we need to find out where is it going to be connected to?
[17:35] <pjoul> tacone: so why you ask?
[17:35] <Cherryade> Hm, okay, I'll ask again. How do you disable the stupid Music Player when you inserrt a disc on Hardy Heron? It used to be in System/Preferences/Removable Drives and Media, but it's not there anymore. It's the most annoying "feature" ever that's about to cause me to install a different distro.
[17:35] <Mr_Freshy> after upgrading to 8.04, my graphics are "weird" -- title bars turn transparent and glitchy
[17:35] <Halsafar> Ikonia: Yeah I believe so as well, and I am not running it.  Can I install it and switch to it? 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-xen-desktop'
[17:35] <Raits> kakado: you mean insert those lines into the menu.lst?
[17:35] <danbhfive> Invisionfree: you could try dist-upgrade or install ubuntu-desktop^
[17:35] <jratzo> so hows everyone liking hardy?
[17:35] <tacone> pjoul: I don't have that optimizations even after upgrading.
[17:35] <twinkie_addict> i ike it alot so far
[17:35] <aldin> bazhang: ok, thanks
[17:35] <ikonia> Halsafar: it's not xen desktop, xen is a kernel package (+tools)
[17:35] <pjoul> Cherryade: nautilus -> preferences
[17:35] <tacone> pjoul: I am wondering why and if it's normal
[17:35] <manawenuz> amenado: do you want another drawing ?
[17:35] <jratzo> yeah i do too
[17:35] <bazhang> !ot | jratzo
[17:35] <pjoul> Cherryade: here you go
[17:35] <ubotu> jratzo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:36] <manawenuz> amenado: it's hard :D
[17:36] <icqnumber> ikonia, one more time there are not error messages, or warning, btw. only one with CUPS, but i have no printer connected
[17:36] <Mapp>  when i tried to install my updates it said it couldn't download all the respiratory indexes?
[17:36] <ikonia> Halsafar: but yes, install the kernel and reboot it and it should be runningthe xen kernel
[17:36] <Invisionfree> The following packages have been kept back:
[17:36] <Invisionfree>   libgtk1.2 libmlt-data
[17:36] <Invisionfree> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[17:36] <Invisionfree> Here's what dist-upgrade said:
[17:36] <ikonia> icqnumber: the cups error is understandable
[17:36] <FloodBot2> Invisionfree: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <kakado> Raits: yes, or try it manually in grub, by editing the menu
[17:36] <amenado> manawenuz-> you wanted assistance? you have to do your part.
[17:36] <Cherryade> Wait, it's in Nautilus? Whoever designed that needs to be shot
[17:36] <Cherryade> How completely non-obvious
[17:36] <manawenuz> amenado: ok i'll
[17:36] <Halsafar> Ikonia: I am having trouble finding it with apt-get, I do have all the repo's uncommented and did and update.
[17:36] <Odd-rationale> OK. I have the desktop CD. It was wubi on it. Does wubi require that it has the iso locally on the hdd? And does it download an iso again?
[17:36] <AaronMT> !wubi
[17:36] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[17:36] <pjoul> Cherryade: investigate gnome bugzilla, here's a bug about it
[17:36] <ikonia> Halsafar: and your getting no xen packages ?
[17:36] <icqnumber> ikonia, so
[17:37] <pjoul> tacone: my hardy: rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-04-25 16:09 /bin/sh -> dash
[17:37] <rjonesx> is there something that launches every time you try to open a new program that isnt opened when you launch the tracker search tool?
[17:37] <ikonia> Halsafar: apt-cache search xen (or xen-iamge)
[17:37] <rjonesx> i mean, i cant open update manager
[17:37] <ikonia> icqnumber: I'm genuinly stumped
[17:37] <Z03> how can I get xmms to play mp4 files ?
[17:37] <Invisionfree> When I apt-get dist-upgrade, here's what I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64390/
[17:37] <ikonia> icqnumber: I cannot see a reason why you are failing to auth
[17:37] <rjonesx> the crash manager wont open so i cant read the crash reports
[17:37] <ikonia> unless !
[17:37] <ikonia> icqnumber: yes I can
[17:37] <StevenX> Hello all. I was wondering what the shortcut to get to the menu bar is in ubuntu. You know how in windows you can press "alt" and it takes you to the menu bar. How can I do that in ubuntu?
[17:37] <pjoul> tacone: in fstab everything with relatime
[17:37] <Callipyginous> I am unable to add a new entry in visudo, any ideas?
[17:37] <kklimonda> Hi, i have a problem with closed flash. I've installed it from repository along with libflashsupport and it works, even with sound. But sometimes it crashes and i have to restart browser to get it working again. While i was testing Fedora i had similar crashes but i could fix them by reloading page.
[17:37] <El1> Nobody here an expert in nvidia drivers then?
[17:37] <Halsafar> Ikonia: heh they are there, I was just failing.  I will install the xen-hypervisor kernels and see what happens.  Thanks for your help./
[17:37] <kakado> Raits: I tried some different combinations and then it worked :)
[17:37] <ikonia> icqnumber: one moment, just let me work it through in my head
[17:37] <Cherryade> Thanks for the help though
[17:37] <kklimonda> i'm using amd64 of course
[17:37] <icqnumber> ikonia, let me know
[17:38] <pjoul> StevenX: system -> preferences -> shortcuts
[17:38] <tacone> pjoul: not for me. ok, thanks anyway
[17:38] <dbristow> aha!  the same md5sum for the copy of wubi.exe that I got from the desktop-i386 ISO, whose md5sum matches the line in MD5SUMS
[17:38] <towlie> how do i burn an iso to cd in ubuntu
[17:38] <StevenX> pjoul, thanks
[17:38] <Pokit> In grub, "find /boot/grub/stage1" returns "(hd0,1)". but trying to boot XP from that location wont work (windows and ubunto on same HD) how do i fix
[17:38] <pjoul> tacone: have you performed it with hardy final cd?
[17:38] <Cherryade> towlie: Use a CD burning application. Brasero will do it
[17:38] <ikonia> icqnumber: ok - this is a long shot and not fact, just a theory I'm looking at
[17:38] <dtraine1> can someone recommend a package for running an Internet cafe?
[17:38] <pjoul> tacone: or via apt?
[17:38] <Harmor> hi.. when I configure the ip addres from the graphical mode it doesn't appear in the ifconfig command otput why?
[17:38] <bazhang> towlie: right click iso open with cd/dvd creator
[17:38]  * DBautell begins DVD upgrade process
[17:38] <tacone> pjoul: no, I upgraded via apt while it was in beta
[17:38] <amenado> Pokit-> what are you trying to do?
[17:38] <Raits> kakado: you're a miracle man, windows is booting now. Would you mind telling me what was wrong for future reference?
[17:38] <danbhfive> Pokit: hd0,1 is the first harddrive, second partition
[17:39] <kuse> When I configure a VPN-connection through nm-applet, the newly created connection doesn't appear in the VPN-connections sub meny, only disconnect and create new .. anyone knows whats causing this?
[17:39] <icqnumber> ikonia, but it is really stange, i have another distro installed on this laptop, can i be a reason?
[17:39] <Callipyginous> I am unable to add a new entry in visudo, any ideas?
[17:39] <dbristow> that tears it, that proves that the MD5SUMS line is bogus
[17:39] <pjoul> tacone: this could be the issue
[17:39] <tacone> pjoul: I am wondering if there's any way to reset to hardy defaults.
[17:39] <Pokit> amenado i'm just trying to boot xp. I ran the update manager and it messed up my boot menu
[17:39] <kakado> Raits: heh, I'm not sure
[17:39] <dbristow> who do I ask to get this fixed?
[17:39] <mirdin76> is the hardy heron upgrade recommended for non expert users at this point?
[17:39] <tacone> pjoul: I can apply those things one by one, but I simply don't know all of them.
[17:39] <jharkn> ﻿Pokit: you probably want to change the second number
[17:39] <Mapp> Mimi i did what you said and when i tried to install my updates again it said it couldn't download all the respiratory indexes
[17:39] <|g|> Hey People! I just connected an internal CDRom to my computer. But I dont know, if jumpers are set correctly etc. How can I find out if it works or not? There is no /dev/cdrom.
[17:39] <pjoul> tacone: don't know, try to ask someone's interested
[17:39] <CyberCod> is there a way to get ndiswrapper installed without a net connection?
[17:39] <jharkn> ﻿Pokit: to whichever the partition is that you want to boot
[17:39] <Pokit> jharkn so should i try (hd0,0)? i installed xp before linux
[17:39] <turion> Hello I am here
[17:39] <bazhang> mirdin76: sure it is no problem
[17:39] <Invisionfree> When I run compiz, it won't start emerald: Why?
[17:39] <kakado> Raits: I looked here for reference: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html#q10
[17:39] <danbhfive> CyberCod: its on the cd I think
[17:39] <AaronMT> !emerald
[17:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:39] <|g|> Hey People! I just connected an internal CDRom to my computer. But I dont know, if jumpers are set correctly etc. How can I find out if it works or not? There is no /dev/cdrom.
[17:40] <tacone> pjoul: Thanks anyway
[17:40] <ikonia> icqnumber: there have been bugs that I've seen in hardy to do with "sudo", and how hardy deals with authentication. It appears to use the machines actual hostname rather than "localhost" to auth things (such as sudo) if you don't have a working dynamic dns setup, and/or your hostname is not in the /etc/hosts file mapping to a reachable ip address, I've seen the auth fail. I wonder if this is why your not being able to login
[17:40] <pjoul> lgl: dmesg
[17:40] <amenado> Pokit can you paste in pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?
[17:40] <SirBob1701_> ubuntung-pinoy: nope didn't work
[17:40] <pjoul> tacone: no problem
[17:40] <Pokit> amenado sure
[17:40] <rjonesx> how can i restart to the command line?
[17:40] <jharkn> ﻿Pokit: what amenado said
[17:40] <ikonia> icqnumber: do you follow what I'm suggesting (diguest it forst)
[17:40] <ikonia> first
[17:40] <Invisionfree> When I run compiz, it won't start emerald: Why??
[17:40] <Raits> kakado: anyway, thank you, it's working great now:)
[17:40] <Mimi> mapp :( did it download most of them? Might be some packages that are being updated and such, I got the same problem earlier, try sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal, after you close that Sources window
[17:40] <mirdin76> bazhang: should I back up everything first you think?
[17:40] <pjoul> rjonesx: coomand line? just re-run it
[17:40] <myf> !torrent
[17:40] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[17:40] <mut80r> rjonesx: ctrl+alt+Fx  [0<x<7]
[17:40] <kakado> Raits: cool
[17:40] <rodolfo_> which one is the best codec to handle with avi video file?
[17:40] <jharkn> ﻿Pokit: at the end of the day it won't do any harm to try other numbers
[17:40] <CyberCod> Evand... check IM
[17:40] <bazhang> mirdin76: is this via the net or fresh install
[17:40]  * Mimi asks: Ummm I saved my session, because I don't want gnome-panel, but now everytime I log-in, all I get is the orange/cream screen before gnome loads... so I gotta kill X and log in Failsafe...
[17:41] <jharkn> !pastebin
[17:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:41] <Callipyginous> I am unable to add a new entry in visudo, any ideas?
[17:41] <mirdin76> via the net
[17:41] <pjoul> rodolfo_: all gstreamer's
[17:41] <mirdin76> bazhang: upgrade via the net
[17:41] <Mimi> Mapp I just tried what I told you (because I had the same error as yours when i tried to go to Add Remove earlier) and it worked this time :D
[17:41] <Invisionfree> Haha, outsmarted, compiz!
[17:41] <pjoul> Callipyginous: are you in "insert mode"?
[17:41] <bazhang> mirdin76: always a good idea to back up crucial data; whether an upgrade or not
[17:42] <myf> hi people, don't want to wait for repo anymore, can you give me the address of the torrent
[17:42] <StevenX> pjoul, I found a shortcut to activate the windows menu, where it gives me the option to move the window, resize, etc, but I want the menu that appears if I was to, for example, click on XChat in the xchat program.
[17:42] <Callipyginous> pjoul: how would i go about doing that?
[17:42] <Mimi> myf type /topic... the torrent is there....
[17:42] <bazhang> !torrents | myf
[17:42] <ubotu> myf: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[17:42] <askand> Anyone had any luck sharing files over the network with Hardy?
[17:42] <rodolfo_> pjoul, I'm using gstreamer's codecs to watch an avi video file, using Totem 2.22 from Ubuntu 8.04, but there is audio delay (2sec+)
[17:42] <myf> thanks
[17:42] <dave11> well so much for burning a dvd, it killed two dvd's right off the start.
[17:42] <mut80r> askand: you need to install NFS and/or SMB (I think it's SMB)
[17:42] <radioman> ;
[17:42] <Pokit> amenado: http://linux.pastebin.com/m195fb210
[17:43] <icqnumber> ikonia, no i do not have a working dynamic dns, only with wireless lan, i will need to set up...
[17:43] <radioman> thanks for new ubuntu 8.04 ;}
[17:43] <ikonia> Is anyone in the channel running of the hardy live cd, I'd appriciate someone giving me the output of "hostname" and a look at /etc/hosts in their file
[17:43] <pjoul> Callipyginous: press I key
[17:43] <ikonia> icqnumber: you don't need to set it up, let me just look into this a bit more, it's only a theory
[17:43] <mirdin76> bazhang: true, I guess I'm wondering if things like fstab setup and like emusicj music downloader will be messed up
[17:43] <askand> ﻿mut80r: It told me it did that when I rightcklicked a folder and choosed to share it
[17:43] <mirdin76> bazhang: guess one way to find out
[17:43] <cirkit_> anyone know why nm-applet might not automatically show up in the gnome panel anymore? it only shows up if I Load it manually
[17:43] <Mimi> dave11 if you're installing and keeping windows, try wubi :)  otherwise... make sure youre burning at the LOWEST speed possible, and I assume youve checked md5sum
[17:43] <Mimi> before burning
[17:43] <Callipyginous> pjoul: Lol, trying that now... Thanks :)
[17:43] <rodolfo_> pjoul, compiz-fusion is not enabled. I'm using metacity as my window decorator. So, what's wrong?
[17:43] <Mapp> well i did what you said and i tried downloading them and it told me it couldn't download all of the respiratory indexes then i tried upgrading to hardy but it didn't work either it told me that there was an error during updating and i should check my network connection and retry but my network connection is fine
[17:43]  * Mimi asks: Ummm I saved my session, because I don't want gnome-panel, but now everytime I log-in, all I get is the orange/cream screen before gnome loads... so I gotta kill X and log in Failsafe...
[17:44] <bazhang> mirdin76: you may want to wait a bit to find out specific info like that--or spend time in here afterwards ;]
[17:44] <mut80r> askand: if it is not sharing after installing either/both of those, try a restart.
[17:44] <doug2266778822> i have to folders on my desktop with a lock on them how do i delete these? there nothing important i put them there by trying to copy a dvd now i can not delete them.
[17:44] <pjoul> rodolfo_: don't know i cannot see that issue you've described
[17:44] <icqnumber> ikonia, i meant, the internet will not work any way oon this box
[17:44] <jharkn> pokit: safemode? every time?
[17:44] <mirdin76> bazhang: yeah OK thanks
[17:44] <askand> ﻿ mut80r:will do
[17:44] <Michael88> please help , evolution-data-server is useing my CPU at 90%, on ubuntu 8.04
[17:44] <bazhang> !slow | Mapp
[17:44] <ubotu> Mapp: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[17:44] <DBautell> dave11 do you need the disc, or are you willing to mount -o?
[17:44] <pjoul> StevenX: don't you mean "context menu"?
[17:44] <ikonia> icqnumber: it should do, you don't need dynamic dns
[17:44] <Pokit> jharkn i've tried twice, and so far its put me in safe mode both times
[17:44] <Mimi> doug the lock means it "doesnt belong to you" silly i know... go to a terminal, type gksudo nautilus and navigate to that folder, then delete it
[17:44] <johannix> canceled upgrade to hardy and now the option wont come up in update manager. any ideas?
[17:44] <Pokit> jharkn could it be a windows issue and not grub?
[17:44] <amenado> Pokit-> do you know which partition your windows is at? how about your linux?  per your paste, you seemed to have both pointing to hd0,1 ?
[17:45] <pjoul> johannix: apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:45] <rodolfo_> pjoul, so should I submit a BR to launchpad?
[17:45] <Pokit> amenado XP is on same hard drive as linux. i installed windows first then linux after. so im assuming windows might be (hd0,0) since linux is (hd0,1)
[17:45] <jharkn> pokit: odd, well if windows is booting I think it's windows' fault
[17:45] <StevenX> pjoul, I think so. Is there a way to get to the context menu instead of to the "windows" menu.
[17:45] <ToM-X> Hey, right I've ALMOST got ubuntu working perfectly!!! I need some help with my acpi! Can anyone help?
[17:45] <dave11> DBautell: was trying to burn a live dvd and it gave me a hardware burn error the second it started
[17:46] <icqnumber> ikonia, it(internet) will not work out of the box, because it is just can not,  its protected with a access key, which i need to set up
[17:46] <johannix> pjoul: i ran that and it says "0 not upgraded"
[17:46] <pjoul> johannix: that's bad man
[17:46] <Mimi> !ask | Go ahead and ask ToM-X :D
[17:46] <ubotu> Go ahead and ask ToM-X :D: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:46] <hawodi> hello all
[17:46] <ikonia> icqnumber: yes, but that's nothing to do with the situation I was dicussing with you
[17:46] <johannix> pjoul: really?
[17:46] <Pokit> jharkn: windows was working fine yesterday. then after using ubuntu upgrade manager it changed my menu.lst and now xp link puts me in safemode (the bottom option, the top one gives me an error)
[17:46] <amenado> Pokit per your paste line 130 and 136  both point to same partition, this is incorrect
[17:46] <johannix> is that it?
[17:46] <pjoul> rodolfo_: first try to search if it has been already filled, then you can file a BR
[17:47] <pjoul> johannix: yes
[17:47] <Pokit> amenado, should i change line 130 to (hd0,0) ?
[17:47] <johannix> pjoul: oof
[17:47]  * Mimi asks: Ummm I saved my session, because I don't want gnome-panel, but now everytime I log-in, all I get is the orange/cream screen before gnome loads... I wait and wait and gnome never loads.... so I gotta kill X and log in Failsafe...
[17:47] <rjonesx> pjoul: i think i figured it out - the restricted drivers i need to run certain things have been turned off or commented out - anyone know how to install restricted nvidia drivers?
[17:47] <johannix> i even tried downloading the alternate CD
[17:47] <ToM-X> Right, I have a samsung r60 and I REALLY need to know my battery status but it ways hangs when acpi is disabled :@ any helpies?
[17:47] <puppetmaster> Hello Everyone, I can't play my videos properly in ubuntu 8.04
[17:47] <manawenuz> amenado: http://www.confcraft.com/123.pdf
[17:47] <johannix> but tha tdidnt work either
[17:47] <pjoul> johannix: you should download the cd and do brand new install
[17:47] <hawodi> Am trying to ugrade from ubuntu feisty to gusty using the cdrom with luck.
[17:47] <El1> Is anybody here good with nvidia drivers? I'm having severe problems installing them.
[17:47] <amenado> Pokit wherever your windows partition is at, put that partition on line 130
[17:47] <johannix> pjoul: i'm way beyond that
[17:47] <puppetmaster> it keeps playing very slowly, so what should I do
[17:47] <puppetmaster> ?
[17:47] <johannix> too much on this machine...
[17:47] <prakriti> I'm running a distrobution upgrade and it's only coming down at about ~30k/s.  Are there faster mirrors?
[17:47] <Pokit> amenado ok thanks ill give it a shotr
[17:47] <Callipyginous> pjoul: That didnt work... i typed sudo visudo, and then once it came up, pressed I... Am i doing something wrong?
[17:48] <rodolfo_> I dont know whose fault it is: intel(i915), mesa or the codec's? :S
[17:48] <johannix> pjoul: it still knows that it's running gutsy
[17:48] <Mimi> puppetmaster:  Have you tried installing Ubuntu restricted extras (thats what its called) from add remove ?
[17:48] <johannix> just confused that it thinks it upgraded already
[17:48] <ToM-X> Anyone?
[17:48] <pjoul> rjonesx: /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[17:48] <co0lingFir3> hi! is there something like ink-blot for hp deskjet 370?
[17:48] <jharkn> pokit: the first option shouldn't work, it would load ubuntu if anything
[17:48] <jharkn> pokit: I'm not sure why it would do safemode though
[17:48] <puppetmaster> yes
[17:48] <pjoul> Callipyginous: the try to edit it via nano: nano /etc/sudoers
[17:48] <puppetmaster> and I installed gstreamer
[17:48] <Mimi> prakriti:  go to preferences>system>software sources > Download from (click lilst select other) and then click "select best server" button on the right
[17:48] <Arand> Where is the place to do a feature request fot nautilus?
[17:48] <jharkn> pokit: you could try using 'super grub disk'
[17:48] <puppetmaster> and all the required codecs
[17:49] <pjoul> Callipyginous: nano is more comfortable for beginners than vi
[17:49] <puppetmaster> I don't know what's wrong
[17:49] <pjoul> johannix: do a fresh install of hardy
[17:49] <amenado> manawenuz-> are you missing the ubuntu client from the drawing? or am i mis-understanding what is not working or connecting?
[17:49]  * Mimi asks: Ummm I saved my session, because I don't want gnome-panel, but now everytime I log-in, all I get is the orange/cream screen before gnome loads... so I gotta kill X and log in Failsafe... Anyone got any ideas how to fix it?
[17:49] <Callipyginous> pjoul: Awesome, thanks, trying now
[17:49] <pjoul> johannix: that would be the best idea
[17:49] <timewriter> hi
[17:49] <cman> is there a new version out?
[17:49] <pjoul> Callipyginous: no problem
[17:49] <mut80r> cman: Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
[17:49] <timewriter> ubuntu 8 wont start after install
[17:49] <jharkn> pokit: here is mine for reference http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64392/
[17:49] <timewriter> error 17 on grub
[17:49] <backtick> hi all, i have an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG, it's not blinking and I get that error i system log "iwl3945: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x82000008", any ideas?
[17:49] <Zaqq> hi i am back .. in case u forgot ... my 8139 network card dows not work in Heron
[17:49] <dave11> i checked the error message it says I need to use dvd-r instead of +r
[17:50] <cman> awesome, do i need to burn it and install it like the last one?
[17:50] <pjoul> !google | backtick
[17:50] <icqnumber> ikonia, looks like a real Annoying bug, will be back l8r
[17:50] <ubotu>  backtick: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[17:50] <jharkn> timewriter: check out this for grub errors http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[17:50] <manawenuz> amenado: it's what it is right now , and i'm telling you it's temporary
[17:50] <puppetmaster> So anyone?
[17:50] <timewriter> thank you jharkn
[17:50] <mut80r> cman: you can update a previous version to it with apt-get dist-upgrade or you can download a CD and install it over again.
[17:50] <manawenuz> amenado: if you want i can draw you how the final network will look like
[17:50] <backtick> pjoul: and why do u think i didn't google?
[17:50] <jharkn> pokit: possibly check that link too, I'm not sure that the issue is grub though
[17:50] <manawenuz> amenado: ??
[17:50] <jharkn> ﻿timewriter: np
[17:50] <ToM-X> Ok, is their anyway to see my battery status with apci disabled?
[17:50] <DBautell> mut80r, yes
[17:51] <amenado> manawenuz-> again, which client is not connecting then? i dont see that in your drawing..or am i still mis-understanding whats not connecting?
[17:51] <Harmor> when to find network related solutions in ubuntu..?
[17:51] <jharkn> timewriter: the link at the top of that page takes you to the error codes bit
[17:51] <Zaqq> albech: lspci lists the network card and ifconfig lists a "loopback adapter" .. with subnet as 255.0.0.0 and ip as 127.0.0.1... my router ip is 192.168.1.1 ... wht do i do now?
[17:51] <amenado> manawenuz-> yes its best if you have the final layout, including the ip addresses so i can get you better advise
[17:51] <dave11> other distros burn just fine..wierd
[17:51] <pjoul> backtick: i don't know but launchpad could be better place to start
[17:51] <cman> mut80r: i tried that command and it say it cant open locked file. it asked my if i was root
[17:51] <DBautell> mut80r, sorry, I didn't see that was a statement
[17:51] <manawenuz> amenado: ty :)
[17:51] <timewriter> this is the error
[17:51] <timewriter> 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[17:51] <manawenuz> amenado: it will take time
[17:52] <mut80r> DBautell: lol no worries
[17:52] <pjoul> backtick: i have 3945 too and it's working without any caveats
[17:52] <mut80r> cman:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:52] <amenado> manawenuz-> dont take too long..
[17:52] <mohbana> can i install grub from gusty some how?
[17:52] <jharkn> timewriter: ignore that last thing I said, I meant this bit http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#Grub_Errors
[17:52] <manawenuz> amenado: ok :)
[17:52] <timewriter> jharkn ive found it
[17:52] <Arand> Where is the place to do a feature request fot nautilus?
[17:52] <mut80r> mohbana: grub-setup (hdx)
[17:52] <jharkn> timewriter: ok :)
[17:52] <timewriter> and i think its because the IDE hdd
[17:52] <Zaqq> Help! lspci lists the network card and ifconfig lists a "loopback adapter" .. with subnet as 255.0.0.0 and ip as 127.0.0.1... my router ip is 192.168.1.1 ... wht do i do now?
[17:52] <dave11> its the first time i ever had a problem with a burn
[17:52] <pjoul> Arand: bugzilla.gnome.org
[17:52] <timewriter> ive installed ubuntu on the IDE hdd
[17:52] <timewriter> and i have more 4 SAta DISKS
[17:53] <Arand> okay cheers pjoul
[17:53] <amenado> Zaqq-> what are you wanting to do?
[17:53] <timewriter> normally , the IDE must be the first one
[17:53] <pjoul> Arand peace
[17:53] <Callipyginous> pjoul: Thankyou! That worked! :)
[17:53] <timewriter> but ubuntu sees it like the 5th one
[17:53] <Zaqq> amenado: i cannot connect to the internet on Heron
[17:53] <backtick> pjoul: are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[17:53] <cman> mut80r: it says 0 upgraded, 0 installed
[17:53] <pjoul> Callipyginous: that's fine :)
[17:53] <pjoul> backtick: u
[17:53] <mut80r> cman: check your repositories in System -> Administration -> Software sources
[17:53] <amenado> Zaqq-> ethernet connection? wireless?
[17:53] <Zaqq> my ethernet card is listed in windows as 8139.. lspci lists a card
[17:53] <timewriter> its a confusion between system bios and linux kernel , as i thought
[17:53] <dave11> oh well. gues ill have to stick with other distros
[17:54] <DBautell> dave11, how did you download? If not bittorrent, did you check the md5sum? The repos have been hammered, and the dl might have gone wonky
[17:54] <Zaqq> but ifconfig shows a loopback adapter
[17:54] <jharkn> paste your menu.lst timewriter
[17:54] <jharkn> !pastebin
[17:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:54] <dave11> DBautell: the md5 checked out fine
[17:54] <timewriter> im on windows now jharkn
[17:54] <jharkn> ah
[17:54] <timewriter> i cant boot Ubuntu tho
[17:54] <amenado> Zaqq-> do this, paste in pastebin these... ifconfig; route -n;  cat /etc/resolv.conf;
[17:54] <pjoul> !pastebin timewriter
[17:55] <Zaqq> amenado: i cannot connect to the internet via Heron
[17:55] <timewriter> i know what pastebin is
[17:55] <amenado> Zaqq you said that already, now to paste the info i requested, you have to copy manually and paste
[17:55] <Zaqq> amenado: ok
[17:55] <Kira> Is it safe to use do-release upgrade through ssh on Gutsy desktop? Or is it only meant for the server version?
[17:55] <mut80r> !upgrade | cman
[17:55] <ubotu> cman: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[17:55] <jharkn> timewriter: try using a super grub disk perhaps, only reason I know a little about this is 'cos my install had the wrong pointers in menu.lst
[17:56] <Toyota4Runner> Using the live CD i attempted to startup 8.04 and I am getting "No Signal" any ideas
[17:56] <AaronMT> !scp
[17:56] <amenado> Zaqq-> or if you have one of those usb keys, cut and paste them to a file
[17:56] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[17:56] <timewriter> mine had that too
[17:56] <JDogHerman> I have a chicken and egg situation
[17:56] <timewriter> i will try to change hard disk priority
[17:56] <AaronMT> !ask
[17:56] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[17:56] <timewriter> if i have that option in bios
[17:56] <jharkn> timewriter: and supergrub disk also fixed the men (it didn't even load before)
[17:56] <jharkn> timewriter: yeah good idea
[17:56] <timewriter> i never used that supergriub disk
[17:56] <DBautell> JDogHerman, all attempts to use sudo give you the hostname error?
[17:56] <kelvie_> I am in the middle of a dist upgrade.. and it's stalled at "Setting up samba-common"
[17:56] <Zaqq> amenado: i think i was ablt to mount a windwos drive.. will make a text file with the commands u gave .. and run and save the results in a fil
[17:56] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: try to clean the cd or cd-rom len
[17:56] <kelvie_> ..... what exactly do I do?
[17:57] <Zaqq> able* file*
[17:57] <kelvie_> I don't think it's safe for me to kill it and restart
[17:57] <jharkn> ﻿timewriter: you boot it like a live cd
[17:57] <timewriter> kelvie_ , samba must take a while
[17:57] <timewriter> jharkn what then ?
[17:57] <JDogHerman> I cant sudo beacuse it cannot find the hostname but i cant change the hostname because I cant sudo nano
[17:57] <jharkn> ﻿timewriter: it fixes grub problems automatically, 1sec and I'll find a page with some info on it
[17:57] <JDogHerman> any solutions?
[17:57] <Cpudan80> Hello all
[17:57] <Koheleth> !mp3
[17:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:57] <timewriter> thank you i can google , dont bother
[17:57] <tesko> i cant change my window manager,is there a workaround?
[17:57] <Cpudan80> I'm having a minor problem with my sound playback on HH
[17:57] <Zaqq> amenado: any other command which u would like to add .. to help troubleshoot? coz i have to keep rebooting to switch OS
[17:57] <amenado> Zaqq-> whatever it takes
[17:57] <jharkn> timewriter ok
[17:57] <Boredcollegekid> iTunes 7.6.2.9 stopped
[17:57] <dave11> DBautell:  i looked up the error message and it says i need to use a -r insttead of +r
[17:58] <pjoul> JDogHerman: boot ubuntu live cd and change hostname in live cd session - that's the only way
[17:58] <timewriter> the thing is i dont have any blank disk
[17:58] <Cpudan80> So like if I am listening to music in rhythmbox -- and someone highlights me on xchat - I wont hear the highlight sound
[17:58] <Cpudan80> It's like it wont play both sounds at once
[17:58] <Toyota4Runner> pjoul:  I did that.  I was having the problkem after upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.  Thought maybe the Live CD would fix the problem or let me get into the GUI but seems to b e having the same issues
[17:58] <pjoul> JDogHerman: of course you have to your / mounted
[17:58] <timewriter> Cpudan80 you can disable sound notifications on xchat
[17:58] <amenado> Zaqq-> probably, like your /etc/network/interfaces file contents and /etc/hosts
[17:58] <Cpudan80> timewriter: But I want to hear them
[17:58] <jharkn> timewriter: got it anyway http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html
[17:58] <charlie_> Good evening!  I am having real problems setting up my wireless with Hardy- had it working nicely with NDISWrapper, but I now can't get it working again.  I have tried the ubuntu-uk channel, unable to solve there.  NDISWrapper seems to be doing its bit, but when I try to re-start the network, I end up with:  No DHCPOFFERS received.
[17:58] <charlie_> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.  More info here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4791258#post4791258.  Thanks for your help!
[17:58] <JDogHerman> pjoul: there is no way to do it thorugh ssh?
[17:58] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: that meanse you there's no signal between graphic card and monitor
[17:58] <Cpudan80> timewriter: The problem is that I dont hear them --- they dont come in over top the music played by rhythmbox
[17:58] <Zaqq> okay
[17:58] <timewriter> thank you jharkn
[17:58] <biabia> hardy ububtu..using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel.  In 'dmesg' it says the driver sd and sr need updating, but all I can find on google is bug reports.  cant find how to update the drivers
[17:59] <timewriter> i see
[17:59] <pjoul> JDogHerman: no
[17:59] <DBautell> dave11, and you have used the same discs in the past?
[17:59] <Toyota4Runner> pjoul:  I get video though when I drop to the console
[17:59] <kelvie_> timewriter: as in.. 12 hours ?
[17:59] <JDogHerman> pjoul: this came up after I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04
[17:59] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: hmm and no in x?
[17:59] <timewriter> kelvie_ what do you mean ?
[17:59] <shadowvice> How would I graphical change my driver in 8.04
[17:59] <pjoul> JDogHerman: maybe it's a driver issue?
[17:59] <kelvie_> timewriter: it's been taking all night
[17:59] <dave11> DBautell: yes, and all other disttros work fine during the burn
[17:59] <jharkn> timewriter: np, get the cd/floppy/usb image here once you understand it http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[17:59] <timewriter> WHO ?
[17:59] <Toyota4Runner> pjoul:  that is correct.  Tech0007 suggested using vesa drive did that and still no X
[18:00] <lopin> I've got my upgrade tool locking up
[18:00] <JDogHerman> pjoul: where could I find instructions for doing this using a life cd?
[18:00] <backtick> pjoul: are you running it using iw3945 or ipw3945?
[18:00] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: what graphic card do you have?
[18:00] <timewriter> omg kelvie_ i think made a mistake
[18:00] <timewriter> +)
[18:00] <pjoul> backtick: iwl is the default for hardy
[18:00] <SimplePlan> can i talk to someone one on one for ubuntu installation help
[18:00] <Toyota4Runner> it's embeded ATI Radeon
[18:00] <kelvie_> either way it's frozen at samba-common
[18:00] <jharkn> !ask
[18:00] <pjoul> JDogHerman: hmm, dont' know - just run live cd, open terminal, mount your / partition
[18:01] <timewriter> oh sorry its about the samba
[18:01] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:01] <unknown> i just installed mythbuntu, and in the configuration it asks for database credentials. How do i create the correct database (i already created a user)
[18:01] <slawek> pl
[18:01] <timewriter> well , something happened
[18:01] <SimplePlan> can i talk to someone one on one for ubuntu installation help
[18:01] <timewriter> 12 hrs is way too much
[18:01] <pjoul> JDogHerman: and then edit that file
[18:01] <jharkn> !ask | simpleplan
[18:01] <ubotu> simpleplan: please see above
[18:01] <SimplePlan> !ask
[18:01] <timewriter> i remeber i compiled samba once , on a pentium mmx 75 mhz
[18:01] <manawenuz> amenado: download it from
[18:01] <visf> hi anyone know what does it mean when google earth cannot connect to the internet?
[18:01] <timewriter> it took like 6 hrs
[18:01] <manawenuz> amenado: www.confcraft.com/321.pdf
[18:01] <bazhang> unknown: you may wish to ask in #ubuntu-mythtv if you dont get an answer here
[18:01] <unknown> bazhang: thanks
[18:01] <lopin> visf: can anything else connect to the internet?
[18:02] <velko> SimplePlan, just ask your question here. this way the answers may benefit others too. and you get better chances to get an answer
[18:02] <jharkn> simpleplan: just ask away
[18:02] <dave11> DBautell: i deleted the iso anyway. thanks anyway
[18:02] <pjoul> backtick: it's working out of the box - nothing changed, nothing configured
[18:02] <Toyota4Runner> pjoul:  It's an integrated ATI Radeon
[18:02] <SimplePlan> ok velko
[18:02] <^root^> can anyone tell me why should i download DVD rather than CD? i mean whats the benefit?
[18:02] <visf> lopin: my browser is working fine
[18:02] <arcsky> Ist possible to install Ubuntu from a usbstick?
[18:02] <lopin> visf: Proxy?
[18:02] <SimplePlan> :: can i install ubuntu and still keep all my important files?
[18:02] <manawenuz> ^root^: it contains 3 cd's :)
[18:02] <jharkn> ^root^: dvd has everything on it, it's not neccessary
[18:03] <DBautell> dave11, well, ship...
[18:03] <visf> lopin: there is no proxy for me
[18:03] <mut80r> SimplePlan: yes
[18:03] <lopin> arcsky technically
[18:03] <andycaass> My ubuntu makes weird sounds, its like soundevent, very familiar tune....
[18:03] <consfearacy> I do "sumo apt-get" but it doesnt do anything.. halp plz?
[18:03] <DBautell> dave11, or... shipit
[18:03] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: have you looked at  /var/log/Xorg.0.log? there could be some useful info
[18:03] <manawenuz> ^root^: it contains alternative disk , server & live cd
[18:03] <SimplePlan> :: how do i do this?
[18:03] <^root^> manawenuz: jharkn : even the offline repo?
[18:03] <lopin> SimplePlan: Just don't wipe your harddrive.  RESIZE your windows partition, and you should be okay..,.
[18:03] <dave11> DBautell: ill just stick to other distros
[18:03] <bcardarella> Is apt-get experiencing major slowdowns? Because 500k packages are taking up to 10 minutes to get
[18:03] <^root^> jharkn: what do you mean by everything?
[18:03] <valchers> hello, I have problem with ubutnu 8.04 64 bit amd and skype
[18:03] <arcsky> lopin: ist much work to get it work?
[18:03] <ddrplayer512> ^root^:The DVD contains both the alternate install and the desktop CD. There is not a whole lot of beneifit. So just go with the CD.
[18:03] <valchers> I cant install skype
[18:03] <manawenuz> ^root^: offline repo ?? it contains as much as alternative disk
[18:03] <SimplePlan> :: i don't have a windows partition at the moment .. n i dun want to make one
[18:03] <vignesh> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from 7.10?? i have the installation disc of 8.04...
[18:04] <Toyota4Runner> pjoul:  May I pm you the error log?
[18:04] <lopin> visf: I'm not sure why it would do that.  Try checking the google faqs and help to see if anyone else has run into that problem...
[18:04] <Koheleth> ddrplayer512: instal the qt dev tools
[18:04] <mut80r> SimplePlan: select manual in the ubuntu setup and edit your existing windows partition and shrink it down. then create another partition in the free space and install it there. windows and linux will be seperate and you will be able to boot both when you turn the pc on.
[18:04] <jharkn> ^root^: xubuntu, kubuntu, ubuntu and alt disk
[18:04] <^root^> manawenuz: jharkn: suppose if i just want to install Ubuntu on dekstop, what would be better option? DVD? or CD?
[18:04] <pjoul> bcardarella: some mirrrors yes - they're experiencing overload
[18:04] <valchers> somebody can help me
[18:04] <valchers> ?
[18:04] <mut80r> !install | SimplePlan
[18:04] <ubotu> SimplePlan: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:04] <lopin> arcsky: there should be a page in the community documentation
[18:04] <ddrplayer512> huh?
[18:04] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: pastebin in
[18:04] <cman> thanks mut80r
[18:04] <^root^> jharkn: i see, then DVD is better, coz i like switching DEs :D
[18:04] <manawenuz> ^root^: i like the DVD
[18:04] <cman> upgrading now :)
[18:04] <^root^> manawenuz: so do i :D
[18:04] <bcardarella> pjoul: that's what I figured. I just wanted to make sure before I started diagnosing my connection. Thanks
[18:04] <mut80r> cman: nice  :)
[18:04] <SimplePlan> :: thank u
[18:04] <manawenuz> ^root^: but if you like to upgrade or just install desktop alternative will do you fine
[18:04] <KCummings> Hi everyone. Just tried installing ubunto 8.104 as an application on my windows xp machine and when it rebooted I get an error when I try to boot Ubunto for the first time from grub . the error says it can't find a .1st file
[18:04] <manawenuz> :)
[18:05] <Koheleth> got to the software manager and do a search for qt
[18:05] <jharkn> ^root^: well yes, but you can always switch DEs within ubuntu
[18:05] <Mimi> How can I reset my gnome session? I can't login unless its failsafe
[18:05] <wild_oscar> does anyone know how to work with bluetooth?
[18:05] <pjoul> bcardarella: you could try german or france mirrors - they're pretty fast
[18:05] <jharkn> ^root^: it will dl the required file
[18:05] <manawenuz> amenado: have you seen it ?
[18:05] <amenado> manawenuz-> okay, so where is the problem? i dont see a glaring issue with the layout, where is the client not able to connect?
[18:05] <vignesh> wild_oscar, wat do u wanna do with bluetooth?
[18:05] <Mimi> !bluetooth | wild_oscar
[18:05] <ubotu> wild_oscar: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[18:05] <manawenuz> amenado: i can't connect to linux servers via vpn
[18:05] <Koheleth> ddrplayer512: sorry wrong person :)
[18:05] <manawenuz> amenado: what should i do ??
[18:06] <pjoul> wild_oscar: btooth should work out of the box
[18:06] <Noah0504> What do I lose if I disable ACPI?
[18:06] <visf> lopin: thanks
[18:06] <SimplePlan> :: Check here if you need the alternate desktop CD. This CD does not include the Live CD, instead it uses a text-based installer. .... what does this mean? how do i know whether i shud click this or not
[18:06] <ddrplayer512> Koheleth: That's fine! It happens... :)
[18:06] <timewriter> im burning the supergrub disk
[18:06] <pjoul> Noah0504: almost everything - do not do that
[18:06] <vignesh> how do i upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 from 7.10?? i have the installation disc of 8.04...
[18:06] <lopin> visf, Sorry I couldn't be of more help..
[18:06] <wild_oscar> pjoul, vignesh, Mimi: it seems to be working
[18:06] <wild_oscar> but
[18:06] <DBautell> SimplePlan, are you upgrading or installing?
[18:06] <cybermad> i got my friend ubuntu can not boot up.. it's blank, now how to recover the data/documents on it to other media?
[18:06] <wild_oscar> when I'm browsing the device (in nautilus), if I try to transfer a picture to the laptop, i get an error: "Error in stream protocol: end of stream
[18:06] <ov1d1u_nitan> is there any method to make kde applications to look like GTK applications? in kde exist the qt-gtk package
[18:06] <Noah0504> pjoul: Okay, well, it's once solution to a problem I'm having.  I was just wondering.
[18:06] <ddrplayer512> SimplePlan: The Desktop CD is usually the best choice for doing a fresh install.
[18:06] <Koheleth> valchers: go to the software manager and search for qt, then scroll down a bit and mark qt-dev-tools
[18:06] <SimplePlan> DBautell im installing
[18:06] <bullium> vignesh: you don't need the CD you can just use the system updater to do the upgrade
[18:06] <Dusk_> W: Failed to fetch http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.124.0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[18:06] <Dusk_>   Could not connect to tr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.92.3), connection timed out
[18:06] <lopin> Anyone know why my upgrade tool is locking up?
[18:06] <amenado> manawenuz-> again where in that picture is your client ubuntu and which VPN server you are attempting to connect to?
[18:07] <vignesh> bullium, i dont have a direct internet connection..
[18:07] <duaneb> lopin, more info. what's happening?
[18:07] <wild_oscar> i get "Error in stream protocol: end of stream" when I try to copy files bigger than 5 kB to my home folder
[18:07] <jharkn> !slow | dusk_
[18:07] <fysa> oh god.  I have spent about 16 hours straight trying to get Ubuntu (or Wubi) installed.  It was the goddamn Cable Select setting on my Western Digital drive, causing errors in the ATA module.
[18:07] <ubotu> dusk_: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:07] <SimplePlan> DBautell im installing for the first time
[18:07] <bullium> oh ok...you can use the alternate CD for the upgrade I believe
[18:07] <DBautell> SimplePlan, than you can use either, I believe the alternate is text mode only, though
[18:07] <lopin> duaneb stops doing anything at "Checking Package Manager" and the window goes gray
[18:07] <whileimhere> from on tell me the CLI command to upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10?
[18:07] <bullium> vignesh: oh ok...you can use the alternate CD for the upgrade I believe
[18:07] <ddrplayer512> SimplePlan: The alternate install is good if you like text installs, and you are familiar with it. The alternate CD is also good to kickstart an upgrade.
[18:07] <manawenuz> amenado: there's no Ubuntu client , except mine :) i'm trying to connect to 213.217.55.30 client with ubuntu and i'm unable to
[18:07] <vignesh> wild_oscar, its better to use the send file option in the mobile phone or whatever device from which u wanna transfer the file...
[18:07] <SimplePlan> DBautell then i shudnt check that box?
[18:07] <manawenuz> amenado: but with windows it's fine
[18:07] <lopin> duaneb: does it with the alt cd as well...
[18:07] <evand> fysa: yikes!  Resolved now though?
[18:07] <wild_oscar> and when I send a file from my WM5 device to ubuntu, bluez says it received it but I have no idea where it was saved!
[18:08] <amenado> manawenuz-> from the drawing is it in the internet cloud? the 192.168.0.x cloud?
[18:08] <duaneb> lopin, go to the terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:08]  * Mimi asks: How can I reset my gnome session? I can't login unless its failsafe
[18:08] <pjoul> Noah0504: okay, but it's not worth that troubles
[18:08] <vignesh> bullium, how do i do that?
[18:08] <duaneb> lopin, I'd guess that the mirrors are just slow
[18:08] <usicow> since upgrading to 8.04 compiz crashes.. has anyone else had any problems?
[18:08] <wild_oscar> vignesh: "and when I send a file from my WM5 device to ubuntu, bluez says it received it but I have no idea where it was saved!"
[18:08] <cybermad> is there any way to get my friend data back from ubuntu?
[18:08] <Noah0504> pjoul: Thanks for the heads up.
[18:08] <jharkn> ^root^: for example: you could install using ubuntu desktop cd then do "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to have xubuntu aswell
[18:08] <LetoThe2nd> hi! is it possible to have dual-heads on a nvidia card with ubuntu?
[18:08] <DBautell> SimplePlan, I would say probably not, the regular disc will be more comfortable
[18:08] <lopin> duaneb, the local seems to be going faster...
[18:08] <pjoul> Noah0504: peace
[18:08] <manawenuz> amenado: i'll ask it someother how
[18:08] <duaneb> lopin, good :)
[18:08] <vignesh> wild_oscar, it will be saved in desktop by default..
[18:08] <fysa> evand, yes.  if you hear of people having trouble and casper.log showing "SRST" and /dev/scd0 not found .. ask if they have a Western Digital drive. :P
[18:08] <jburd> The configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator.   I get this error message.
[18:08] <Zaqq> ok am back
[18:08] <^root^> jharkn: yup, that i know, problem is i want to save bandwidth... so i would go with DVD
[18:08] <pjoul> Mimi: you should backup your ~/.gnome2 directory and then delete it
[18:08] <jburd> After upgrading from gutsy to hardy.
[18:08] <manawenuz> amenado: how can i connect that application to 192.168.0.5
[18:09] <evand> fysa: heh, will do
[18:09] <Koheleth> usicow: all I found is that google earth does not like desktop effects enabled on my system
[18:09] <wild_oscar> vignesh: oh, right, there it is!
[18:09] <bullium> vignesh: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[18:09] <ddrplayer512> SimplePlan: The Desktop CD is a good choice if you don't know which to choose. It installs as well.
[18:09] <manawenuz> amenado: from outside of my network
[18:09] <lopin> duaneb: the tools got a lock on apt-get
[18:09] <vignesh> wild_oscar, install the bluetooth file sharing client.. that should solve ur problem..
[18:09] <Mimi> pjoul:  thank you very much Ill go try that :)
[18:09] <jharkn> ^root^: yeah fair enough, that's the only issue really
[18:09] <pjoul> jburd: file a bug then
[18:09] <Zaqq> here's the pastebin link for the problem with 8139 Network card not detected on Hardy - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64401/
[18:09] <jburd> my theme settings have gone for a toss
[18:09]  * jconnolly is back (gone 01:15:33)
[18:09] <duaneb> lopin, is it working now?
[18:09] <usicow> Koheleth, damn.. how can I debug this problem?
[18:09] <jburd> half the desktop does not load correctly
[18:09] <alcazoid> can I have some help with HD automounting?
[18:09] <suweid> Why would I want to upgrade? What new cool stuff do I stand to get?
[18:09] <nath> #!liban!
[18:09] <velko> Mimi, rename all hidden directories in your home folder whose names start with .gnome or .gconf (or move them to antoher place as backup copies)
[18:09] <pjoul> Mimi: let's try :)
[18:09] <jburd> So did I upgrade or downgrade my OS?
[18:09] <vignesh> bullium, the instruction in that page doesn't work for me.. :(
[18:09] <lopin> duaneb no, apt-get can't run, because the tool is sitting there, grinding it's wheels
[18:09] <amenado> manawenuz-> does the 213.217.55.30 server have sshd ? ie can you ssh to it?
[18:10] <chino_> does someone know why my screen flickers when I use the "cube thingy"
[18:10] <^root^> jharkn: here, the only thing that makes me sick is bandwidth cost...
[18:10] <suweid> Apart from it saturating my 100mbit connection for 3 minutes, that is?
[18:10] <Koheleth> usicow: dont know
[18:10] <Zaqq> amenado: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64401/
[18:10] <craig_> has anyone tried to install vmware-server on the latest release of ubuntu. I get an error on 'Unable to build vmmon module' i've also installed the vmware-any-any-update115
[18:10] <duaneb> lopin, do and xkill on it
[18:10] <jburd> the menus don't show any icons
[18:10] <kitsune> I seem to have a problem with the update manager. when I try to upgrade my system it gets stuck at the Download the upgrade tool pase
[18:10] <jburd> WTF is all this?
[18:10] <kitsune> phase
[18:10] <manawenuz> amenado: it does have , but rightnow it have been switched off
[18:10] <jburd> Who does the QA?
[18:10] <bullium> vignesh: why not?
[18:10] <manawenuz> amenado: so i'm practicing on my home computer
[18:10] <ddrplayer512> suwed: You don't really have to upgrade, but you'll get new versions of new software, your software will be supported for about another year vs. LTS for another 3 years, and you'll have bragging rights! :)
[18:10] <lopin> duaneb Doesn't work...  Tried like fifty times...
[18:10] <pjoul> jburd: when? after a fresh upgrade?
[18:10] <suweid> kitsune, I had that too. But then i xkilled it a few times, and it worked.
[18:10] <cybermad> so.. it's impossible to get the data back since i can not load the ubuntu???
[18:10] <duaneb> lopin, strange :/
[18:10] <jburd> pjoul: Yes
[18:10] <adrian_2002ca> hanging on setting new softwae channels, wha do i do??
[18:10] <duaneb> can't help you
[18:10] <pjoul> pjoul: then restart first
[18:10] <ricanelite> what dock does everyone use? currently I'm using Cairo-Dock which i like because it has the zoom of the icons like osx is there another dock out there similar?
[18:11] <amenado> manawenuz-> well it has to have the sshd running so you can ssh to it..
[18:11] <lopin> duaneb Indeed...  Now you see my frustration!  ^.^
,use dist-upgrade
[18:11] <amenado> Zaqq hang on
[18:11] <ConstyXIV> using a realtek RTL8139 wired NIC in hardy/wubi, won't connect.  anyone know what could be going on?
[18:11] <vignesh> bullium, i dont know.. when i insert the cd, synaptic manager opens.. wat do i do after that??
[18:11] <alcazoid> hello
[18:11] <bullium> vignesh: did you even read the page?
[18:11] <ddrplayer512> One time I used Avant Window Navigator for a dock. It worked well.
[18:11] <jharkn> ﻿ricanelite: I use AWN
[18:11] <manawenuz> amenado: it does have sshd and also telnetd and more than that freenx server
[18:11] <suweid> Can someone please point me to a reason to upgrade? Why is there a new release in the first place? I don't understand why I couldn't just get individual package upgrades like I usually do? New backgrounds bundled, whaaat?
[18:11] <pjoul> Toyota4Runner: hey man, where's your log?
[18:11] <vignesh> bullium, ya i did read the page.. i tried out the command in that page too.. it didn't work..
[18:11] <pjoul> suweid: read release notes
[18:11] <SimplePlan> !ask i want the more sleek look ... shud i get ubuntu or kubuntu
[18:12] <dotech> anyone else failing to connect to Facebook chat in Firefox on hardy?
[18:12] <amenado> Zaqq your ethernet nic is not showing up, you have to enable it first, perhaps something like  sudo ifup eth0;  or sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:12] <bullium> vignesh: can you be more specific as to how it didn't work?
[18:12] <jburd> The error message is so bloody stupid:  "Please contact your system administrator"  Someone needs to get their heads back up where it should be.
[18:12] <Mimi> YAY! I was able to restore my gnome session by baking up .gnome ... now... does anyone know how I can make gnome-panel NOT launch? :P
[18:12] <dave11> wow...I havent seen any" works great" messages yet.
[18:12] <suweid> pjoul http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804 mentions new new backgrounds what so ever.
[18:12] <kitsune> The upgrade manager seem to have gotten the hint that I am in the channel and after I xkilled it it seem to download the packages
[18:12] <amenado> manawenuz-> if it has test that ssh connectivity first to 213.217.55.30
[18:12] <lopin> SimplePlan: Depends.  Kubuntu is all shiny, and everything goes together visually...
[18:12] <whileimhere> When I run sudo apt-get update I get stuck at 99% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.22)]   Whats up with the server you think?
[18:12] <dotech> dave11: works great for me, been using it for a few weeks
[18:12] <ConstyXIV> dave11: works great*!
[18:12] <ddrplayer512> suweid: How about http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/?
[18:12] <suweid> It just goes on and on about how some really complex network setups may be adversely effected.
[18:12] <vignesh> bullium, i issued the command  "gksu  "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" .. it asked for admin passwd.. i gave it.. then no response was there..
[18:12] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: matter of preference
[18:12] <lopin> SimplePlan: while ubuntu is all just simple, and easy to use...
[18:12] <wild_oscar> vignesh: cheers
[18:12] <dotech> although Facebook chat doesn't seem to work :\
[18:12] <suweid> ddrplayer512: Thanks!
[18:12] <manawenuz> amenado: i'm telling you this server have been switched off
[18:12] <jharkn> dave11: no problems here!
[18:13] <jburd> My suggestion to the Ubuntu team:  Get the fscking upgrade process stabilized first.
[18:13] <manawenuz> amenado: and it is about 100 KM away
[18:13] <pjoul> suweid: many more improvements
[18:13] <vignesh> wild_oscar, cool..
[18:13] <ddrplayer512> No problem, I hope that helps. :)
[18:13] <wild_oscar> vignesh: do u know how to change the default receive folder?
[18:13] <n-iCe> should I clean the ubuntu registry like in windows? I mean is there anyway, should I do it??
[18:13] <bullium> vignesh: you gave it your password correct?
[18:13] <dave11> 3 out of 1500 is a start
[18:13] <manawenuz> amenado: i should know what i want to do , so i can do it by tomorrow morning
[18:13]  * jburd has never had any upgrade work 
[18:13] <adrian_2002ca> hanging on setting new software channels, what do i do??
[18:13] <vignesh> bullium, ya i did..
[18:13] <p28301016> hi i've just updated and ooo surpryse it has messed up my fstab and changed the names of the hardisk how can i resolv it?
[18:13] <Fishscen1> n0iCe, there is no registry to clean ;)
[18:13] <vignesh> wild_oscar, i dont think that is possible..
[18:13] <amenado> manawenuz-> does the  213.217.55.29 have any firewalling? and only allow certain ip address to connect to it before it forwards to 213.217.55.30 ?
[18:14] <manawenuz> no it doesn't
[18:14] <Zaqq> amenado: do u want me to do anything else? wht if the driver is not installed?
[18:14] <suweid> pjoul, ddrplayer512: That link wants to sell ubuntu to me. I'm already sold on ubuntu. I want to know "diff 710 804"
[18:14] <manawenuz> amenado: no it doesn't
[18:14] <bullium> vignesh: it has to be the alternate CD not the original Live CD
[18:14] <SimplePlan> can i get kubuntu after i install ubuntu ... like install the KDE thing ... will it b exactly like kubuntu? enlighten me
[18:14] <manawenuz> amenado: it's just an unintelligent router :D
[18:14] <ddrplayer512> I'll do some more looking.. okay?
[18:14] <pjoul> suweid: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[18:14] <amenado> Zaqq-> if driver is not installed, then install it and make it work first
[18:14] <raphael_burnes> how come 3 days ago I could install ubuntu-xen-server as a package on gutsy and now am no longer able to? (I get package not found)
[18:14] <lopin> SimplePlan: Yes...
[18:14] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: yes
[18:14] <raphael_burnes> and what is the recommended way to install it? (on amd64)
[18:14] <vignesh> bullium, alternate cd??? where do i get it from?
[18:14] <Zaqq> amenado: i dont know how to install a driver ...
[18:14] <kitsune> well I am off
[18:14] <lopin> SimplePlan: Once you install ubuntu, install the Kubuntu-desktop metapackage in apt-get
[18:14] <SimplePlan> then what happens to the gnome after i insstall kde?
[18:15] <lopin> SimplePlan: That's kinda how Kubuntu does it...
[18:15] <arc_shmoo> why doesnt the restricted driver for my proset wireless show up under restricted drivers in 8.04 as it did in 7.10
[18:15] <pjoul> suweid: pulseaudio, gio, gnome2.22, firefox3
[18:15] <vignesh> SimplePlan, you will be able to choose between gnome and kde from the sessions menu in the login screen..
[18:15] <lopin> SimplePlan: It's still there... The gnome login manager can start kde, and vice versa
[18:15] <suweid> pjoul, yes - it says that firefox 3 beta is bundled now. Why couldn't i just install it. Ohh, new gnome?
[18:15] <alteregoa> houston i got a problem
[18:15] <amenado> manawenuz-> if what you say is correct being un-intelligent, how does the packet gets forwarded to 213.217.55.30 ?
[18:15] <bullium> vignesh: quickest way to download right now is using bit torrent http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ it's at the bottom of that page
[18:15]  * Mimi asks:  does anyone know how I can make gnome-panel NOT launch? :P
[18:15] <Koheleth> ubuntus method of editing grub is in the dark ages
[18:15] <p28301016> any one having problems with fstab
[18:15] <jharkn> simpleplan: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde though I think it's a little outdated now, you should use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in the terminal
[18:15] <jburd> And it's not like Ubuntu is a fairly new distro.
[18:15] <SimplePlan> but wont that b extra load??? gnome and kde together .... shud i just get kubuntu then?
[18:15] <ddrplayer512> huh?
[18:15] <vignesh> bullium, okie .. ty..
[18:15] <Ashfire908> is it worth it to verify a disc after burning a iso (of ubuntu 8.04)
[18:16] <amenado> Zaqq-> you have to google for your nic card, visit the vendors web site please
[18:16] <bullium> vignesh: np
[18:16] <vignesh> SimplePlan, if u just want kde u can go for kubuntu..
[18:16] <pjoul> suweid: if you don't want it - don't install it. that'sso  easy
[18:16] <suweid> don't use apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop
[18:16] <jburd> It's about time the distro gained stability during upgrades.
[18:16] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: well they don't run at the same time
[18:16] <suweid> If you do, you won't be able to remove it alter
[18:16] <suweid> Use aptitude.
[18:16] <manawenuz> amenado: it knows to redirect every packets to just one ip , which is .30
[18:16] <jharkn> simpleplan: though you obviously have to store the files for each on disk
[18:16] <Dusk_> i don't have system and home icons on my desktop...how can i get them??
[18:16] <valchers> hello, I have problem with ubutnu 8.04 64 bit amd and skype, I cant install it, somebody can help me
[18:16] <alteregoa> i am still disappointed of setting up multible displays in linux
[18:16]  * Mimi asks:  does anyone know how I can make gnome-panel NOT launch? :P
[18:16] <valchers> hello, I have problem with ubutnu 8.04 64 bit amd and skype, I cant install it, somebody can help me
[18:16] <manawenuz> amenado: btw both 213.217.55.29 & 30 are valid IP addresses
[18:16] <suweid> pjoul: I want it, I just want to know why the hoopla! :)
[18:16] <jburd> pathetic
[18:16] <manawenuz> amenado: i mean static& valid
[18:16] <alteregoa> valchers, there is a binary skype who runs
[18:16] <Koheleth> valchers: did you see my reply
[18:16] <amenado> manawenuz-> so i suspect it has some kind of filtering or only allows specific ip address to hit that .30
[18:17] <ddrplayer512> suweid: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop How about THIS? :)
[18:17] <pjoul> suweid: just because all that new shiny software :)
[18:17] <bullium> Is anyone running VMWare workstation on 8.10?
[18:17] <SimplePlan> so if i want more options im better off DLing ubuntu and then the KDE stuff?
[18:17] <Steufeubeu> yes
[18:17] <suweid> ddrplayer512: I'm going to read that. :)
[18:17] <Koheleth> valchers: go to the software manager in admin
[18:17] <amenado> manawenuz-> well can you not directly connect to the .30 ?  or is it preventing you?
[18:17] <Steufeubeu> I'm running VMWARE Workstation on 8.04
[18:17] <alteregoa> something like skype static linked or something
[18:17] <ricanelite> Steufeubeu, how is it running?
[18:17] <ddrplayer512> suweid: I also think this will help: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804overview
[18:17] <pjoul> suweid: and mind that fact that hardy will be supported longer than gutsy
[18:17] <bullium> Steufeubeu: where you running it on 7.10 and did the upgrade?
[18:17] <valchers> and then
[18:17] <manawenuz> amenado: i can directly connect to .30
[18:18] <bullium> Steufeubeu: upgrade to 8.10 that is
[18:18] <manawenuz> amenado: but i can't stablish a VPN connection with it
[18:18] <Steufeubeu> ooops osrry
[18:18] <manawenuz> amenado: i don't know why
[18:18] <Steufeubeu> sorry ;-)
[18:18] <ZimCS> Is there a guide on how to install VMWare Tools on 8.04?
[18:18] <jharkn> simpleplan: well yeah probably but you could do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" from kubuntu instead
[18:18] <dave11> how long is .710 going to be supported?
[18:18] <Koheleth> valchers: search for qt
[18:18] <manawenuz> amenado: and i'm asking you for a solution
[18:18] <manawenuz> amenado: :)
[18:18] <amenado> manawenuz-> can you not enable the sshd on .30 so you can ssh in?
[18:18] <jharkn> afaik
[18:18] <suweid> ddrplayer512: That last link was what I wanted from the start! Thanks a bunch
[18:18] <Steufeubeu> ZimCS : yes I've posted here : http://communities.vmware.com/message/925886
[18:18] <dotech> Could not connect to Facebook Chat at this time.
[18:18] <ZimCS> thanks
[18:18] <manawenuz> amenado: not right now , but i can in the morning
[18:18] <Koheleth> valchers: then scroll down the list and mark qt-dev-tools for installation
[18:18] <ricanelite> what is usually faster virtualbox or vmware? because i want to install windows vista and I had vista installed on virtualbox when i was running Gusty
[18:19] <dtrainer> could anyone recommend a package for running internet cafes?
[18:19] <ricanelite> but i have heard vmware is faster
[18:19] <suweid> pjoul: Yeah, I don't know what "Support" rather than googling for help or coming here and complaining is. And I don't think either are going to be outlasted by "LTS" from canonical.
[18:19] <amenado> manawenuz-> thats the first thing i would try, enable the sshd
[18:19] <manawenuz> amenado: it's in somesort of organization out of town , which switch off all it's computers in the evening
[18:19] <ZimCS> mine is 7.6.3, but that shouldn't makea a difference
[18:19] <SimplePlan> what do more ppl prefer ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:19] <balle_> !theme
[18:19] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:19] <bullium> Steufeubeu: the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.10 broke it and reinstalling it doesn't fix it either
[18:19] <mohbana> can i burn a dvd whilst browsing on the live cd?
[18:19] <bullium> Steufeubeu: is yours still working properly?
[18:19] <manawenuz> amenado: can you try it on the test computer , which is my current working computer ?
[18:19] <dotech> can someone confirm whether or not facebook chat allows you to send messages with Firefox 3b5 64-bit please?
[18:19] <amenado> manawenuz-> possibly yeah..so testing it from your home and if the far end is inactive you cant do much
[18:19] <Koheleth> valchers: qt-dev-tools has the 3 dependencies you need
[18:19] <skoop`> anyone give me a hand?  Did my first install on a dell inspirion 1501 laptop and im having problems with my video
[18:19] <jburd> bullium: Were you able to get your desktop to show up normally?
[18:19] <jharkn> ﻿dotech: I've done it
[18:20] <Dusk_> i don't have system and home icons on my desktop...how can i get them??
[18:20] <adrian_2002ca> can someone help? hanging on setting new software channels when upgrading from gutsy
[18:20] <w8tah> how do i create a default profile for the network manager and have it load everytime i start up?
[18:20] <jburd> bullium: I get some error about "GNOME power manager configuration"
[18:20] <amenado> manawenuz-> sure join me in #manawenuz
[18:20] <Steufeubeu> Bullium : Ok. I explain there how to install on a fresh ubuntu install
[18:20] <bullium> jburd: after the upgrade?
[18:20] <n-iCe> should I clean the ubuntu registry like in windows? I mean is there anyway, should I do it??
[18:20] <jburd> bullium: yes
[18:20] <manawenuz> join #manawenuz
[18:20] <manawenuz> join #manawenuz
[18:20] <pjoul> suweid: and what about updates and securitys updates... that's the biggest support you can reach
[18:20] <elementz> guys, i am going mad while compiling this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#Installation_from_source
[18:20] <manawenuz> join #manawenuz
[18:20] <manawenuz> join #manawenuz
[18:20] <manawenuz> join #manawenuz
[18:20] <bullium> jburd: yeah desktop works fine
[18:20] <FloodBot2> manawenuz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:20] <SimplePlan> !ask which one is more efficient gnome or kde????
[18:20] <amenado> manawenuz->  /join #xxx
[18:21] <bullium> Steufeubeu: explain where?
[18:21] <elementz> i keep getting the following output http://pastebin.com/d5a7b67f9
[18:21] <elementz> anybody got a hint
[18:21] <suweid> pjoul: Aah, the packages. Then yeah, that's worth a lot. Though I'll be probably updating the day after 9.?? comes out. :)
[18:21] <Darknezz> i have a question i just installed hardy yesterday but when i try and load new programs with terminal it says i need a C compiler. anyone know what i should do?
[18:21] <Steufeubeu> ﻿Bullium: I always install the new versions of ubuntu from start. I save everything and then install
[18:21] <skoop`> anyone give me a hand?  Did my first install on a dell inspirion 1501 laptop and im having problems with my video...the screen is all boogered up
[18:21] <elementz> dunno what to do anymore - tried to instal the kernel sources to no avail
[18:21] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: you don't have to write !ask ;) but afaik gnome is slightly lighter
[18:21] <jburd> bullium: The configuration defaults for GNOME power manager have not been installed correctly. Please contact your computer administrator.
[18:21] <Steufeubeu> ﻿Bullium : I've posted there : http://communities.vmware.com/message/925886
[18:21] <pjoul> suweid: yes, that's your bussiness :)
[18:21] <vignesh> SimplePlan, depends upon your taste... both are highly effective open source (obviously) desktop environments...
[18:21] <elementz> what else might be wrong?
[18:21] <elementz> anybody?
[18:21] <Koheleth> cor! you try to help people
[18:21] <n-iCe> !compiler
[18:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[18:21] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: although XFCE is lighter than both of course
[18:21] <n-iCe> read that Darknezz
[18:21] <suweid> By the way I hope they fixed the sunday-starts-my-swedish-week bug.
[18:22] <bullium> Steufeubeu: you always install your new versions of ubuntu from scratch?
[18:22] <jburd> "Please contact your computer administrator" is not a solution when you are the computer administrator.
[18:22] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: i.e. xubuntu
[18:22] <elementz> anybody?
[18:22] <jharkn> ﻿jburd: heheh
[18:22] <Darknezz> thanks
[18:22] <ddrplayer512> huh?
[18:22] <Steufeubeu> bullium: yes. From scratch.
[18:22] <jburd> There's something wrong with the whole process when you get messages like that.
[18:22] <mohbana> whats a quick way of getting access to a machine running ubuntu live cd from windows xp
[18:23] <JDogHerman> every time I try to log into gnome with a vnc connection it crashes after i type the first letter, any ideas?
[18:23] <sahak> hello
[18:23] <Steufeubeu> ﻿bullium: it takes less time than fixing things that don't work ;-)
[18:23] <sahak> https://help.ubuntu.com/ shows documentation for Ubuntu 7.10 instead of showing 8.04
[18:23] <bullium> Steufeubeu: awesome I'll see if I can't use that information...at least I know it will run on 8.04...VMWare just certified 7.10 LOL
[18:23] <xal2> Hello
[18:23] <Steufeubeu> ﻿﻿bullium : Ok. Hope it will help you.
[18:23] <jburd> Steufeubeu: yeah that's true.  I've always had to reinstall the OS.  Upgrading always breaks too many things.
[18:23] <xal2> I updated to Ubuntu 8.04. I do not, however, have icons for OpenOffice.
[18:23] <skoop`> Will Ubuntu work on a dell inspirion 1501's drivers?
[18:24] <xal2> Where can I get these? I cannot find them in the usual directories.
[18:24] <SimplePlan> which one looks "cooler" ubuntu or kubuntu?
[18:24] <frostburn> bullium, are you trying to install vmware server?
[18:24] <JDogHerman> any ideas on how to fix my vnc login issues?
[18:24] <User140> hello
[18:24] <bullium> frostburn: nope, workstation
[18:24] <jharkn> ﻿SimplePlan: if prefer gnome, but it's personal taste, google some screenshots or something
[18:24] <suweid> SimplePlan, neither looks cool. But wait 'till kubuntu gets KDE 4.smthin'useful. Then kubuntu will win. ;)
[18:24] <xal2> Where can I get the OpenOffice 2.4 icons? I cannot find them in the usual directories.
[18:24] <jharkn> I*
[18:25] <n-iCe> xal2 let's see
[18:25] <xal2> I'm not sure if it's just a fault of the upgrade process.
[18:26] <n-iCe> xal2 has the update finished?
[18:26] <tawt> when i try to download something using synaptic/add-remove programs, is it supposed to act like i'm waiting in line to download?
[18:26] <duri> is jeOS 8.04 mirrored anywhere ?
[18:26] <frostburn> bullium, i got the same issue compiling server, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766676
[18:26] <xal2> n-iCe, yes
[18:26] <dave11> great.. the wikipediaubuntu article is cross scrypted on yahoo
[18:26] <n-iCe> xal2 Try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-style-default
[18:26] <suweid> tawt, it's the new "linux is a social-movement" simulater. Makes you feel like you are in a Soviet Russia!
[18:27] <xal2> thanks
[18:27] <tawt> lol
[18:27] <Arand> has anybody got wireless with ca-certificate working?
[18:27] <skoop`> anyone know why my screen is fuzzing up...is it my graphics card ATI Raedon?
[18:27] <RedWar> lol
[18:27] <n-iCe> xal2 that should install openoffice.org-style-andromeda as well try it and let me know.
[18:27] <RedWar> what's the name of the relase party room?
[18:27] <frostburn> ubuntu-release
[18:28] <Arand> for me its just asking for passphrase/code again and agian.
[18:28] <Lardarse> #ubuntu-release-party
[18:28] <Danniknik> eae povo
[18:28] <RedWar> thanks
[18:29] <NekoKun> Danniknik: br?
[18:29] <skoop`> anyone know why my screen is fuzzing up...is it my graphics card ATI Raedon?
[18:29] <SimplePlan> how do i partition my disk so that i can hav eboth windows and ubuntu?
[18:29] <RedWar> I have not downloaded yet, I m working on it
[18:29] <SammIndustrie> hi there - can anybody tell me how to get VIA graphics acceleration on ubuntu 8.04? i wanna get desktop effects and glx working!
[18:29] <Danniknik> NekoKun: sim :D
[18:29] <n-iCe> !partition SimplePlan
[18:29] <tawt> why is anything related to synaptic taking forever to begin downloading?
[18:29] <SimplePlan> !partition
[18:29] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[18:29] <suweid> skoop`: "Fuzzing up" isn't a well conditioned problem.
[18:29] <lesjohn> my upgrade crashed when it was almost done.  is tehre anything i can do now to finish it except a clean install?
[18:29] <NekoKun> Danniknik: saca bastante?
[18:29] <mut80r> tawt: servers are being hammered by updates
[18:29] <Danniknik> NekoKun: nadinha! huauahuha
[18:29] <ng01> simple plan.  seriously, read the FAQ on install.  it answers everything.
[18:29] <tawt> mut80r, ok, thanks
[18:29] <bicyclist1> simpleplan: if you install ubuntu it can take care of that
[18:29] <Danniknik> NekoKun: só saco de cliclk!
[18:29] <dishayu> i cannot go beyond 640 x 480 on my pc, just installed hardy... and enabled the restricted drivers...
[18:30] <n-iCe> lesjohn what about updating again?
[18:30] <Sake> anybody here tried running vmware server in ubuntu 8.04 server?
[18:30] <El1> dishayu: same problem
[18:30] <skoop`> ok, half the display on my screen is fucked....but the top half i can see.
[18:30] <jburd> So the upgrade fscking hosed my desktop.
[18:30] <Lardarse> !language | skoop`
[18:30] <ubotu> skoop`: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:30]  * jburd is on a wrecked system now.
[18:30] <El1> dishayu: tried envy etc too? And are you also getting a low-res prompt at startup?
[18:30] <Lardarse> !language | jburd
[18:30] <ubotu> jburd: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:30] <tyrone> hi i have question. Is it better to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 or to delete my partition and install 8.04?
[18:30] <suweid> skoop, that sounds like a problem with hardware. Half and halfs never happen. ;/
[18:31] <lesjohn> n-ice: it got far enough along that it's running hardy and doesn't have an update option in the update manager.  it crashed when trying to start bluetooth right before "cleaning up"
[18:31] <XLV> tyrone, a clean install is always better
[18:31] <grzyb> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe libdvdnav4 0.1.10-0.2
[18:31] <grzyb>   Connection failed [IP: 91.189.92.2 80]
[18:31] <grzyb> 14% [Waiting for headers]
[18:31] <grzyb> damn leechers
[18:31] <FloodBot2> grzyb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:31] <dishayu> El1 : yeah tried envy, nvidia-settings and editing xorg file
[18:31] <NekoKun> http://ubuntuforums.org/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=595424 any advice?
[18:31] <tyrone> XLV, can you explain me the difference?
[18:31] <Lardarse> tyrone: many people have not had a happy upgrade experience
[18:32] <tyrone> Lardarse, thank you
[18:32] <suweid> I'm upgrading, 6 minutes remaining it says.
[18:32] <Sake> Lardarse: because the servers are swamped or because it's a bad upgrade process?
[18:32] <absnt> Why are there 200 processes running? lol
[18:32] <XLV> tyrone, any old incompatible package/preferences settings wont mess up a cleanly installed system, where in an upgrade some of those problems may creap up
[18:32] <dishayu> El1 : although i'm not getting any prompts at startup
[18:32] <n-iCe> absnt reboot
[18:32] <tawt> anyone notice that after the release there are about an average of 300-400 more people here at any given time?
[18:32] <mut80r> sake: maybe a bit of both
[18:32] <ferbyboy> is it me or is it taking forever to download stuff from the add/remove application????
[18:32] <absnt> n-iCe: I just did lol
[18:32] <tyrone> Does anyone know if there is an Avant-Window-Navigator version for the hardy or if they are compatible?
[18:32] <jharkn> !slow | ﻿ferbyboy
[18:32] <ubotu> ﻿ferbyboy: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:32] <hawodi> hello can anybody help with the upgrade pls?
[18:32] <jbur1> Lardarse: yes, people get frustrated when a stupid upgrade process ruins their time.
[18:32] <tawt> ferbyboy, the servers are being hammered with updates
[18:32] <Kira> Is it safe to use do-release-upgrade through ssh on Gutsy Desktop? Or is this command really only meant for server editions of Ubuntu?
[18:32] <Lardarse> Sake: because many people are complaining that "the upgrade broke my computer"
[18:32] <suweid> ferbyboy: It's you. Use a localer mirror.
[18:33] <El1> dishayu: altho this did not help for me, it might help for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766515&highlight=nvidia+drivers+hardy&page=3
[18:33] <Arand> has anybody got wireless with ca-certificate working? for me its just asking for passphrase/code again and agian...
[18:33] <Lardarse> jbur1: stupid?
[18:33] <ferbyboy> thanks guys
[18:33] <ferbyboy> thanks
[18:33] <mik3> hi i'm vpn'd into the network at work, and i need to ssh into another node on the internal network but ssh isn't inheriting my tunnel when i try to ssh user@host, anyone mind helping me figure this out
[18:33] <hawodi> can't upgrade using the cdrom. am trying to upgrade from feisty to gusty
[18:33] <lesjohn> did i read that it's possible to do a new install without wiping the my home directory?
[18:33] <jharkn> np
[18:33] <jbur1> Lardarse: yes.  I've *never* had cdrom upgrades work for me with any release of Ubuntu.
[18:33] <absnt> Any idea why I have 200 processes?
[18:33] <Amarilis> hi
[18:33] <fevel> hello
[18:33] <skoop`> thanks ubuntu is fucking garbage...bye
[18:34] <fevel> cya
[18:34] <mut80r> ... language.   ^o)
[18:34] <El1> wow how mature :P
[18:34] <Arand> is there a specific natworking-channel b the way?
[18:34] <suweid> Yeah, but half his screen was broken.
[18:34] <mik3> he should take his computer back to wal-mart and apologize for wasting their time
[18:34] <Lardarse> jbur1: if you feel that way, then why do you keep trying?
[18:34] <suweid> I would be upset too.
[18:34] <jbur1> half my screen is broken.
[18:34] <mut80r> mik3: lol
[18:34] <CorbinFox> And so skoop left the Ubuntu channel, and found a virus on his Windows installation, and thus cried like a wittle baby
[18:34] <jbur1> Lardarse: because I need to get back to work!
[18:34] <Lardarse> Arand: i don't think so... just !ask
[18:34] <Dusk_> i don't have system and home icons on my desktop...how can i get them??
[18:34] <kilrae> what kind of rescue disk doesn't have fdisk?
[18:34] <shadowvice> info MITM
[18:34] <eyyYo> Is there an application that can forward streams automatically? Lets say I am broadcasting an internet radio. I want this application to read the broadcast stream and forward it out to a server that can read the stream i received.
[18:35] <mut80r> Dusk_: Desktop or the top bar ?
[18:35] <elementz> guys, i got severe problems while compiling tp_smapi for my thinkpad notebook
[18:35] <hawodi> need help with upgrade pls.
[18:35] <Dusk_> mut80r: desktop
[18:35] <elementz> anybody in here who is willing to help me on the issue?
[18:35] <n-iCe> hawodi use torrents
[18:35] <absnt> Any idea why I have 200 processes?
[18:35] <bullium> Steufeubeu: worked great :) thnx a bunch...now I can do some work
[18:35] <suweid> eyyYo: that sounds like proxying, google proxy ubuntu or something. :)
[18:35] <absnt> I just restarted
[18:35] <tyrone> absnt, rejoin your session
[18:35] <jbur1> I don't have icons in the menu, themes aren't loading, compiz is borked, samba installation fails with a traceback, gnome-power-manager fails to start and configuration is hosed.  what is all this?
[18:35] <jharkn> ﻿Dusk_: drap& drop? :p
[18:35] <mut80r> Dusk_: right click a blank space on the desktop and hit create launcher. in type select location
[18:36] <absnt> tyrone: what?
[18:36] <Lardarse> elementz: can you paste the error somewhere? that way, someone who understands the problem may be able to help
[18:36] <obnibolongo> absnt, 30551 pts/2 R+ 0:00 ps ax ;)
[18:36] <elementz> i tried asking around in the german channel already - nobody knew a solution to my prob
[18:36] <drhooba> plz my friend i have agreat proplem
[18:36] <shadowvice> So is there any graphical solution for changing the video driver of the live CD?
[18:36] <suweid> jburl - sounds like an upgrade gone right!
[18:36] <rym> Could anyone help me with Mythtv and/or refer me to a possible mythtv channel ?
[18:36] <Lardarse> (and they will likely ask you to do so anyway)
[18:36] <hawodi> n-iCe, I have a gusty cd and when I pop it in and click on update, it tells me my sys is up to date!
[18:36] <JDogHerman> every time I try to log into gnome with a vnc connection it crashes after i type the first letter, any ideas?
[18:36] <jbur1> suweid: yeah
[18:36] <ferbyboy> my media button on my keyboard doesnt work no more...damn but my mouse buttons to go back and forth due now on hardy...damn this sucks...one sacrfice for the other
[18:36] <StevenX> guys, what's the command for alsa again? does 8.04 use alsa as default?
[18:36] <tyrone> absnt, press ctrl+alt+backspace
[18:36] <elementz> Lardarse, done that - trying to do this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#Installation_from_source
[18:36] <hawodi> Am running feisty fawn.
[18:36] <XLV> rym, #mythtv-users
[18:36] <rym> ty
[18:36] <elementz> and i get this: http://pastebin.com/d5a7b67f9
[18:36] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: is that normal?
[18:37] <eyyYo> suweid: Yeah, i have thought of that too. The thing is that this application is going to receive two signals of same type, but with different content. And it should be able to switch between these two without loosing connection to the server.
[18:37] <Lardarse> shadowvice: you mean apart from using the alt cd to install? i think there is, but you have to press F6 on the boot menu and type something in
[18:37] <suweid> jburl, just reinstall the whole shebang. And if that's not possible you can cry in a corner. That's what I usually do when my files get wasted anyway. :)
[18:37] <jbur1> I don't know whether I should pull my hair over installing this on my machine or stay calm and reconfigure all my applications.
[18:37] <Dusk_> jharkn: i can drag&drop computer but when i try to drag&drop home it starts copying file
[18:37] <shadowvice> Lardarse: Thanks Ill play with that
[18:37] <obnibolongo> absnt, I honestly don't know, but the last process I created was with id 30000, I honestly don't know how many concurrent processes I have after I boot
[18:37] <mut80r> suweid: atleast advise them to make a disk image first
[18:37] <suweid> eyyYo: Sounds pretty specific. Are you good with socket programming? =)
[18:38] <ferbyboy> yeah now u gotta add emerald --replace to sessions in order for emerald to work automatically when u reboot
[18:38] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: yeah, after boot i have 218 and 1 running
[18:38] <roffe__> I was presented with 3 options when firefox wanted me to install a flash-player.. and I chose the one that blocks every flash unless you click on them... How can I remove it and install another?
[18:38] <suweid> mut80r: No, he's no newbie. I think he'll manage. :)
[18:38] <Lardarse> shadowvice: "playing" may be a bad idea... but i think that if you press F1 on the boot menu, it will show you the help that can explain thje options
[18:38] <eyyYo> suweid: Well.. I have done some simple applications, but not something this complex (I think it will be comlex).
[18:38] <Lardarse> and point you to a file on the CD to read
[18:38] <El1> Does anyone else here besides dishayu and me have problems with nvidia drivers in hardy?
[18:38] <drhooba> #linuxac
[18:38] <mut80r> suweid: ah my bad. just got back.
[18:38] <blue112> Hello everyone.
[18:38] <obnibolongo> absnt, ok, I've 200 taks running currently and I've the system loaded up a few hours
[18:38] <blue112> Can someone help me with a sound issue ?
[18:38] <eyyYo> suweid: And I dont have much time, thats the biggest problem :)
[18:38] <AaronMT> !ask
[18:38] <ferbyboy> el1: what kinds of proplbme r u having
[18:38] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[18:38] <mut80r> !ask | Blue112
[18:38] <ubotu> Blue112: please see above
[18:38] <elementz> did anybody look into my issue? dunno how to continue right now - there MUST be a solution to my problem...
[18:39] <blue112> Ok ^^
[18:39] <MrPockets> hey guys
[18:39] <shadowvice> Lardarse:  Its a test system :D
[18:39] <grimboy> When I use lsof I get "WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/grimboy/.gvfs". I've searched on it and found nothing really. Anyone any idea why I'm getting it?
[18:39] <whileimhere> I am trying to use the update manager to update to the newest version are the server just overwhelmed?
[18:39] <obnibolongo> absnt, I don't know then... Reboot and do top and see how many processes you have
[18:39] <El1> ferbyboy: we can't enable the nvidia drivers, altho they're installing perfectly ok
[18:39] <obnibolongo> absnt, or have you done it already?
[18:39] <bazhang> !slow | whileimhere
[18:39] <ubotu> whileimhere: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:39] <jbur1> I think people should come up with a strategy to tackle non-functional ubuntu upgrades.  keep your /home on a separate partition is a start.
[18:39] <liamrharvey> hello i have installed ubuntu 7.10 and i w
[18:39] <ferbyboy> mines are enabled just fine i have compiz working
[18:39] <suweid> eyyYo: Well, short of making a forum post and explaning your problem VERY WELL, I don't see any fast solution. Is this for tricking some service into thinking you are in a different country? There might be easier ways...
[18:39] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: I just rebooted like 2mins ago, and thats how many it said when I got it up
[18:39] <blue112> When I put some flash sound on firefox (3b5), any other application can't play sound... There simply no output, and they freeze after few seconds...
[18:39] <amazen720> after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:39] <ferbyboy> yo
[18:40] <rob_p> grimboy: did you run lsof as root or standard user?
[18:40] <El1> ferbyboy: apparently there are a lot of other people with the same problem too
[18:40] <grimboy> rob_p: Normal user
[18:40] <ferbyboy> el1: did u go to system>administration>hardware drivers????
[18:40] <ferbyboy> there u can enable nvidia driver
[18:40] <graingert> hello
[18:40] <rob_p> grimboy: try it as root
[18:40] <ibleed> blue112, have you tried installing libflashsupport ?  that worked for me
[18:40] <andycaass> How to mount bin/cue images??????????
[18:40] <blue112> ibleed: No, I'm going to try, thanks.
[18:40] <liamrharvey>  hello i have installed ubuntu 7.10 and i am having problems with my dell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard and connecting to my wireless network
[18:40] <obnibolongo> absnt, wait
[18:40] <graingert> does anyone else find that the repositories are down?
[18:41] <roffe__>  I was presented with 3 options when firefox wanted me to install a flash-player.. and I chose the one that blocks every flash unless you click on them... How can I remove it and install another?
[18:41] <bazhang> andycaass: tried with vlc?
[18:41] <mut80r> !slow | graingert
[18:41] <ubotu> graingert: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:41] <NekoKun> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766563 anyone to comment?
[18:41] <blue112> ibleed: I have to restart computer ?
[18:41] <w8tah> graingert: not down -- just VERY slow
[18:41] <jharkn> dusk_ right click, create launcher
[18:41] <El1> ferbyboy: that is the problem, can't enable it there, it's checked but it still says not in use, also tried envy and the binary drivers from nvidia
[18:41] <spydon> in which package is aclocal?
[18:41] <ibleed> blue112, i dont think so.  maybe just your browser
[18:41] <grimboy> rob_p: Tried just then. I get the same thing (which is weird because it said /home/grimboy and everything and I don't think root should be tied to the normal user's directory)
[18:41] <andycaass> bazhang: vlc? It's a data image
[18:41] <eyyYo> suweid: Nope, its exactly as i described it before :) I want a shoutcast server to switch between streams..
[18:41] <graingert> w8tah: bum
[18:41] <ferbyboy> el1:if theres no option go to add/remove program install nvidia driver...either new legacy or whatever depending on ur card and also nvidia-setting... with nvidia settings u can optimize ur refresh rate instead of using hte standard screen resolution from gnome
[18:41] <eyyYo> suweid: Ill sniff a little with wireshark or something, and see what i get :)
[18:41] <blue112> ibleed: Ok, as soon as my DL finish, i'll restart it ^^
[18:41] <ScarEye> Okay, So I have Kbuntu 8.04 installed, I don't see anything with VNC VIEWER where should I be looking ?
[18:41] <jharkn> dusk_ then enter "nautilus /home/jharkn/" in the command text box
[18:41] <grimboy> rob_p: I get it whatever I use lsof on. Weird, must have been something to do with the upgrade.
[18:42] <bazhang> andycaass: that would be a no then?
[18:42] <ferbyboy> oh damn
[18:42] <Wirta-> hello
[18:42] <ferbyboy> thats weird
[18:42] <liamrharvey>  hello i have installed ubuntu 7.10 and i am having problems with my dell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard and connecting to my wireless network
[18:42] <jharkn> dusk_: but with you name of course
[18:42] <graingert> ScarEye: use terminal vinagre
[18:42] <andycaass> bazhang: yes.
[18:42] <ScarEye> wait
[18:42] <ScarEye> graingert:  I am looking for vnc server
[18:42] <ScarEye> not viewer
[18:42] <chino_> does someone know why my screen flickers when I use the "cube thingy" from compiz? I tried a lot of stuff but it wont go away:S
[18:42] <mut80r> !wirelesss | liamrharvey
[18:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wirelesss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:42] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:42] <El1> ferbyboy: did all that, and nvidia settings is not working since I'm not using the nvidia drivers atm since I can't enable them... am using vesa atm.
[18:42] <graingert> ScarEye: ah
[18:42] <mut80r> !wireless | liamrharvey
[18:42] <ubotu> liamrharvey: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:42] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:42] <ferbyboy> el1: did u try to reinstall ubuntu? and does compiz work?
[18:42] <StevenX> guys, how do I enable the gutsy backports in hardy heron?
[18:43] <StevenX> I am trying this command in a terminal: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic
[18:43] <bazhang> StevenX: you dont want to do that
[18:43] <rob_p> grimboy: Dunno what to tell ya then...  but I have gotten similar errors in the past while using lsof without the proper privs.
[18:43] <mut80r> StevenX: System -> Administration -> Software sources
[18:43] <StevenX> and it is not working
[18:43] <whileimhere> I think Ill wait for a fe weeks to do the upgrade
[18:43] <biabia> hardy ububtu..using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel.  In 'dmesg' it says the driver sd and sr need updating, but all I can find on google is bug reports.  cant find how to update the drivers
[18:43] <obnibolongo> absnt, sudo ps aux > process_list.txt   then go to http://pastebin.com/ , paste it there, put a duration of one day and let me check for your processes name (meaning, give me the resulting link back)
[18:43] <mehal88> is this room for gutsy only still or is it both now?
[18:43] <StevenX> bazhang, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=737391
[18:43] <liamrharvey> ubotu: i have checked out that link it doesent help
 can anybody tell, was this output of alsamixer means:
 ALSA lib simple_none.c:1741:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Headphone Playback Switch',0,2,0) appears twice or more
[18:43] <El1> ferbyboy: compiz does not work, and reinstalling ubuntu would make me lose all settings etc and I rather try to just solve it.
[18:43] <StevenX> bazhang, I want to fix my sound, and that's the way I did it last time.
[18:43] <bazhang> mehal88: all flavors ;]
[18:43] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: ok
[18:43] <StevenX> mut80r, I don't see the gutsy backports there in 8.04 anymore.
[18:43] <graingert> ScarEye: apt-cache search vnc server /n pick one
[18:44] <patholio> i ran the upgrade last night and it worked a treat
[18:44] <trait> ??
[18:44] <mehal88> okay, i installed the beta last week, how do i get to the release now?
[18:44] <andycaass> ﻿I really want to upgrade my 8.04 Rc to final, how?
[18:44] <El1> ferbyboy: do you know anything else I could try or anyone else who can help me with this problem?
[18:44] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:44] <gouki> Anyone have problems with synergy on 8.04?
[18:44] <jharkn> ﻿mehal88: run update manager
[18:44] <mut80r> StevenX: try   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:44] <gouki> *having
[18:44] <bazhang> mehal88: just keep updating and you will be final; keep in mind the servers are sloooow now ;]
[18:44] <El1> amazen720: are you also using vesa driver atm and do you have an nvidia card?
[18:44] <patholio> gouki synergy2 works here ok
[18:45] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: http://pastebin.com/d756d382f
[18:45] <AaronMT> !slow > mehal88
[18:45] <ferbyboy> el1: nah el1 i dont realy know man... does compiz work at least?
[18:45] <Wirta-> can I upgrade 8.07 to ubuntustudio somehow?
[18:45] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX, gutsy backports are for gutsy
[18:45] <ferbyboy> my bad u already answered but no i dont know man
[18:45] <duaneb> !slow | mehal88
[18:45] <ubotu> mehal88: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:45] <gouki> patholio: there is a synergy2? :)
[18:45] <jharkn> I'm pretty sure mine updated to final before it was released
[18:45] <El1> ferbyboy: nope, but I need gfx acceleration for games anyway so just compiz wouldn't do, thanks anyway for your help tho.
[18:45] <amazen720> El1: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[18:45] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, so how can I fix my sound? That thread I linked to work last time.
[18:45] <bazhang> Wirta-: just add the ubuntustudio repos and add stuff from there--going ubuntustudio-desktop will leave you without restricted drivers
[18:45] <mehal88> i dont mind using torrents, its just generally hard finding them on the site
[18:45] <El1> amazen720: ok, nevermind then, don't know anything about that
[18:46] <mehal88> i often get lost and end up with the normal downloads
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX, you are not using gutsy.. so that link does not apply..  /join #Alsa
[18:46] <bazhang> !torrents | mehal88
[18:46] <ubotu> mehal88: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[18:46] <mut80r> mehal88: see the room topic.
[18:46] <ferbyboy> el1: i got some nvidia problems too..videos are too damn choppy i know in windows i dont have these problems
[18:46] <digitalspaghetti> Help :/  I'm stuck in a bit of a catch22 situation here.  I have an uncompleted upgrade happening.  When I try upgrade, I get a message that it's a partial upgrade, and I click OK.  i thinks for a second and then tells me it cannot calculate the job.  If I try click the upgrade to 8.04 button again it gets stuck on the downloading the upgrade tool screen
[18:46] <patholio> gouki yeah http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/
[18:46] <milly123> ok, even since I upgraded to hardy my wireless insternet connection and signal have been terrible, I even have terrible lag just being connected to this irc server, is there something different about how it handles this that I can put back to how gutsy did it? I'm not even sure if you all are going to get this question because it is jumping up and down from 20 second lags or more
[18:46] <jharkn> ﻿mehal88: system --> admin --> update manager
[18:46] <El1> ferbyboy: did you manage to enable restricted drivers then?
[18:46] <jharkn> ﻿mehal88: then press check
[18:46] <tyrone> has anyone updated succesfully??
[18:46] <orthodoc> i've this black screen whenever i start ubuntu
[18:46] <andresmh> i set my system as as well as autologin, and installed and set fluxbox as default, now  I don't know how to change it back to gnome... is there a config file i can edit?
[18:46] <orthodoc> only the panels and awn is visible
[18:47] <age> hello
[18:47] <fevel> how can I convert an avi video to mpg?
[18:47] <orthodoc> what could be the problem?
[18:47] <ScarEye> graingert:  Thanks for the tip brotha. I apprciate it !!!!
[18:47] <jharkn> ﻿andresmh: you can set it to gnome on the login screen afaik
[18:47] <age> I was wodnering if 8.04 is released on DVD?
[18:47] <mut80r> age: yes
[18:47] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, i'll ask them what's up.
[18:47] <ferbyboy> yeah its enabled compiz works but videos are just choppy ...its like its no optimal and stuff the drivers u know...i know in this resolution in windows xp or even vista the refresh rate is fine no choppy ness
[18:47] <bazhang> age yes it is
[18:47] <gouki> patholio: apt-cache search synergy only gives me one 'synergy' service, so I guess were using the same one.
[18:47] <lastelement0> hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:47] <obnibolongo> absnt, AFAIK, nothing special there :)
[18:47] <mehal88> well if its better on the servers to use torrent over update manager, then i'll just go with that
[18:47] <gouki> patholio: Not a bit slow on the client computer?
[18:47] <obnibolongo> absnt, I suppose it is normal
[18:47] <ScartchnSniff> I just booted the new ubuntu for the first time and apparently it's stuck at step 2 where you enter your time zone. I think it's partitioning but it's not showing anything and it's been at it for 4 hours now... is this normal?
[18:47] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: Ok so I guess its normal, which is weird
[18:47] <k5ehx> this upgrade is not going well
[18:48] <obnibolongo> absnt, I'll paste mine for ya ;)
[18:48] <obnibolongo> absnt, wait :)
[18:48] <Lapinux> ok, this is odd.  when i look at system monitor under the processes tab it only shows like 1% system usage, and my windows vm only shows about 4%, but yet if i look under the resources tab in system monitor it shows my cpu's all running anywhere from 5 to 50%
[18:48] <pandora--> k5ehx: as slow for you as it is for me?
[18:48] <patholio> gouki: nope seems fine to me
[18:48] <pandora--> soooo slooow
[18:48] <Baby_Shambl3s> does anyone have good scripts or links with scripts that work for transset-df running with xcompmgr?
[18:48] <roffe__>  I was presented with 3 options when firefox wanted me to install a flash-player.. and I chose the one that blocks every flash unless you click on them... How can I remove it and install another?
[18:48] <age> Where can I find it? I looked in the usual spots and couldn't find a link.
[18:48] <andril> hello all
[18:48] <mut80r> lapinux: system monitor takes up some CPU refreshing the lists all the time
[18:48] <rob_p> k5ehx: ham?
[18:48] <andril> anyone have a coplete sourcelist for Hardy yet?
[18:48] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, seems like everyone in that chan is idle.
[18:48] <milly123> anyone else having crazy slow wireless connections after going to hardy?
[18:48] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:48] <bazhang> age the torrent is the best option at this point
[18:48] <andresmh> jharkn: yeah, but since i set autologin it skips the login screen... but there must be a config file i can edit manually to set it back to use gnome, isn't it?
[18:48] <k5ehx> rob_p: yes
[18:48] <Lapinux> mut80r: its a constant 5 to 50% between the 4 cpu's, they jump back and forth
[18:49] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:49] <rob_p> k5ehx: cool.  kk7av here
[18:49] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX, you will need to be patient
[18:49] <k5ehx> rob_p: fb om :-)
[18:49] <age> Agreed, but I can't fidn the torrent for the DVD release of 8.04 final not the rc.
[18:49] <ng01> anyone running 8 core ?
[18:49] <StevenX> Jack_Sparrow, ok.
[18:49] <jharkn> ﻿andresmh: I would guess so but I don't know it myself, you could just temporarily disable autologin
[18:49] <El1> damn they actually have 8 cores now?!
[18:49] <mut80r> Lapinux: go to the processes tab, click view -> all processes, and sort by CPU column.
[18:49] <amazen720> ﻿after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:49] <ibleed> amazen720, did you try sudo aptitude remove xserver-xgl ?  thats all i can think of
[18:49] <graingert> ng01: 80 core is going public in a few years!
[18:49] <andresmh> jharkn: how do  disable autologin?
[18:50] <ferbyboy> graingert: how many years?
[18:50] <andresmh> remember i am not able to use gnome
[18:50] <ng01> ok.  i saw a couple benchmarks.  way out of my league.
[18:50] <k5ehx> I had to interrupt the upgrade yesterday, now I get an "Error authenticating some packages". Does this just meant the mirror I chose is hosed and I should wait, or am I just fscked?
[18:50] <andresmh> :)
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> StevenX, WHile you are waiting do this..  Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[18:50] <graingert> ferbyboy: 4-6
[18:50] <amazen720> ibleed: I know I can remove it, but without it, no Desktop Effects
[18:50] <jharkn> ﻿andresmh: system --> admin --> login
[18:50] <jharkn> ﻿andresmh: on one of the tabs in there
[18:50] <mut80r> jharkn: he doesn't have access to GNOME.
[18:50] <ScratchnSniff> I just booted the new ubuntu for the first time and apparently it's stuck at step 2 where you enter your time zone. I think it's partitioning but it's not showing anything and it's been at it for 4 hours now... is this normal?
[18:50] <cperrin88> How can I configure a standard output for pulseaudio
[18:50] <cperrin88> ?
[18:50] <andresmh> mut80r: exactly:)
[18:50] <graingert> amazen720: with it no desktop ;-)
[18:51] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:51] <jharkn> ﻿andresmh, ﻿mut80r: oh yeah, my bad :P
[18:51] <El1> Anyone here good with nvidia drivers? Seems there's a problem around which lots of people are having and not many have found a fix so far apparently...
[18:51] <Parsec300> Anybody else experiencing extrewmely large fonts in Firefox in 8.04?
[18:51] <rob_p> k5ehx: You can do, "sudo apt-get update" at the cmd prompt and then do, "sudo apt-get upgrade" and that may fix it.
[18:51] <kilrae> i installed ubuntu to an lvm and I cannot boot into windows (but I can mount the ntfs partition) the windows partition is bootable and the grub config seems correct
[18:51] <mehal88> is there a way to install directly from the iso or do i have to burn it?
[18:51] <k5ehx> rob_p: rather than dist-upgrade?
[18:51] <mut80r> andresmh: you can use vi for CLI text editing. I don't know where the config file for autologin is though
[18:51] <amazen720> ﻿ubuntu 8.04 after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[18:51] <ScratchnSniff> mount the image?
[18:51] <ScratchnSniff> mehal88
[18:51] <age> where can i find a torrent 4 dvd 8.04?
[18:51] <k5ehx> rob_p: oh hey... it's doing something. Thanks.
[18:51] <El1> mehal88: you could try using a virtual image program like gmount
[18:51] <mut80r> !torrents | age
[18:51] <ubotu> age: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[18:52] <rob_p> k5ehx: Are you dist-upgrading or just doing a regular update?
[18:52] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:52] <amazen720> graingert: don't understand
[18:52] <age> thanx
[18:52] <Lapinux> muriel: still not showing whats using all the cpu
[18:52] <k5ehx> rob_p: I was dist-upgrading yesterday, but after 8 hours of package downloading it still hadn't finished. :-(
[18:52] <mehal88> do installs work from virtual(mounted) drives?
[18:53] <cperrin88> How can I set the standard soundcard for pulse audio output?
[18:53] <ScratchnSniff> I just did it myself
[18:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !install > mehal88
[18:53] <graingert> Parsec300: I did just apt-get purge firefox, then install again; a backup would be a good idea
[18:53] <AaronMT> k5ehx: You might want to change your Software Sources nearest location next time.
[18:53] <ScratchnSniff> it does work although it hangs at step 2 when booting it apparently :P
[18:53] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:53] <rob_p> k5ehx: I always considered doing the auto distro upgrade to be somewhat, "risky" so I just save my files and do fresh installs.
[18:53] <graingert> Lapinux: sudo top
[18:53] <AaronMT> You can ping the closest most responsive server and change your respositiories to download from the nearest server with the best ping.
[18:53] <harking> anyone know about the update manager freezing on clicking of the "Upgrade" button or a little further in
[18:53] <k5ehx> AaronMT: yeah, it doesn't seem to want to let me do that through the software sources app, may need to do it manually.
[18:53] <k5ehx> rob_p: yeah, seems like every other upgrade fails. :-(
[18:53] <Parsec300> harking, had the same thing
[18:53] <noodlesgc> harking exact same problem here
[18:54] <obnibolongo> absnt, http://pastebin.com/d5d4a3f5
[18:54] <noodlesgc> how do i fix it?
[18:54]  * harking isn't alone in the boat
[18:54] <El1> mehal88: probably, as long as you don't have to reboot during the install process
[18:54] <ibleed> AaronMT, where can i see a list of servers to choose from ?/
[18:54] <noodlesgc> i tried both the network update and the cdrom upgrade
[18:54] <sailaway85> Need to address cd/dvd drive directly with vbox/mware ...
[18:54] <Jack_Sparrow> k5ehx, the servers are hammered at release time.. wait and try again later or find a better server
[18:54] <amikrop> Can anyone explain this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64403/
[18:54] <absnt> ﻿obnibolongo: 206?
[18:54] <harking> noodlesgc: Parsec300 i'm going to look into my sources
[18:54] <harking> err, apt-sources
[18:54] <AaronMT> Software Sources, under System
[18:54] <graingert> the repos really need to be distributed (p2p)
[18:54] <obnibolongo> absnt, I suppose so :P
[18:55] <Jack_Sparrow> amikrop, please post a description of the problem and not just a link
[18:55] <k5ehx> well, I've got a CD. May nuke and reinstall. Wanted to do some repartitioning anyway. :-)
[18:55] <noodlesgc> harking i have a fast server selected
[18:55] <mut80r> graingert: yes, but there are drawbacks to that
[18:55] <rob_p> k5ehx: 'Course, the servers are probably a little busier than usual...
[18:55] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: there was no problem??
[18:55] <neo_> 5555
[18:55] <StevenX> guys, how do i run a .sh file?
[18:55] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: all it said was you had the latest version of csound and didn't need to update
[18:55] <rob_p> k5ehx: Anyway, good luck es 73 OM...
[18:55] <mut80r> StevenX: from the terminal
[18:55] <neo_> hi
[18:55] <dishayu> any solution for the 640x480 resolution woe yet?
[18:55] <ProN00b> gutsy released yet ?
[18:55] <rabiddachshund> Is it possible to have dual monitors on ubuntu by using 2 different cards?
[18:55] <AaronMT> StevenX: ./file.sh
[18:56] <k5ehx> rob_p: tx 73
[18:56] <Sake> if I install 7.10 server and I do apt-get dist-upgrade, will it upgrade me to 8.04?
[18:56] <mut80r> Sake: yes
[18:56] <StevenX> mut80r, AaronMT, thanks
[18:56] <AaronMT> ProN00b, you mean Hardy. Yes, as of yesterday.
[18:56] <obnibolongo> mut80r, no....
[18:56] <obnibolongo> mut80r, doesn't he need update-manager ?
[18:56] <scizzo-> Sake: not really.....it will do a upgrade for feisty at that part....
[18:56] <balle_> !theme
[18:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[18:56] <Lapinux> mut80r: Xorg is using 43 to 51% cpu, is that normal
[18:57] <ProN00b> AaronMT, will i have it if i installed RC before ?
[18:57] <amikrop> jharkn: yes, but look what mixer said
[18:57] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:57] <milly123> I am getting alot of "dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0"   messages in my logs could this be part of my slow wireless problem? and if so how do I fix it?
[18:57] <amikrop> it needs csound
[18:57] <craig_> has anyone tried to install vmserver before?
[18:57] <mut80r> obnibolongo: I should think he does. my bad
[18:57] <graingert> has anyone got colourful tabs working in firefox 3 beta ?
[18:57] <scizzo-> Sake: if you install a 7.10 server you need to tell it to do a upgrade to a new release with: do-release-upgrade
[18:57] <Lapinux> mut80r: i dont think it is
[18:57] <jbur1> So does anybody have a gnome-panel that does not use the currently chosen theme?
[18:57] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[18:57] <obnibolongo> Sake, wait there for a minute
[18:57] <mut80r> Lapinux: no it isn't. have you tried restarting the X server? (ctrl alt backspace)
[18:57] <graingert> jburl: yes I do
[18:57] <consfearacy> what program to use the monitor system resources?
[18:57] <jbur1> graingert: have you fixed it?
[18:57] <Lapinux> mut80r: no, but i will, brb
[18:57] <[T]-Rex> how do i check what version of ubuntu that im using now?
[18:57] <graingert> jburl: never broken
[18:57] <ProN00b> mut80r, depends on your cpu, if its something like 200mhz you might see those numbers
[18:57] <obnibolongo> Sake: I haven't experience with server version; either follow  scizzo-'s advice above or try update-manager --help
[18:58] <Sake> scizzo-: What does that mean "It will do an upgrade for feisty at that part..."? That i will have all the security updates for feisty, but won't be boosted up to hardy, right?
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> [T]-Rex, lsb_release -a
[18:58] <[T]-Rex> thanks
[18:58] <consfearacy> what program to use to monitor system resources guys?
[18:58] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:58] <suweid> Ok, the update managed to break only one thing - the refresh rate on my second monitor, which caused it to spaz out. What's the name of that nvidia tool for configuring monitor setup?
[18:58] <ProN00b> mut80r, hell, even if its sub 1ghz you might see things like that depending on how you torture x
[18:58] <noodlesgc> consfearacy gnome-system-monitor
[18:58] <jbur1> graingert: my gnome installation is corrupt.  gnome-panel does not load the right theme and the fonts are so tiny I need a microscope to read the text
[18:58] <obnibolongo> consfearacy, "top" ?
[18:58] <consfearacy> obnibolongo: any GUI?
[18:58] <amikrop> Can anyone explain this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64403/
[18:58] <mut80r> consferacy: System -> Admin -> System Monitor
[18:58] <obnibolongo> consfearacy, or if you use gnome/kde , they both have a program for that
[18:58] <amikrop> Mixer sais it lacks csound
[18:58] <amikrop> says
[18:59] <amikrop> but csound is there
[18:59] <scizzo-> Sake: the apt-get command will look at the sources.list that is already in use....the do-release-upgrade will check for a new release....
[18:59] <ditoa> I just got my Dell Inspiron with Ubuntu :)
[18:59] <Sake> obnibolongo: Well basically, I'm installing an ubuntu box iwth just vmware server on it. I heard 7.10 supports vmware better, so I want to install 7.10, then update it, but not go to 8.04. (I tried 8.04 and vmware doesn't work on it)
[18:59] <CyberCod> I need help!  I tried out the alternative flash plugin for Firefox and it doesn't work worth a crap!  How do I remove it?
[18:59] <ditoa> Is superb!
[18:59] <orkid> Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (129.97.134.71). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[18:59] <milly123> does anyone know what "dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0" over and over in the logs means?
[18:59] <orkid> is this normal?
[18:59] <orkid> are the server overloaded?
[18:59] <graingert> jbur1: create new user; does new user experince this?
[18:59] <obnibolongo> consfearacy, wait
[18:59] <mut80r> !slow | orkid
[18:59] <ubotu> orkid: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[18:59] <jbur1> graingert: yes it does
[18:59] <orkid> mut80r: tx
[18:59] <scizzo-> Sake: if you do not want all packages from 8.04 then you will have to do it in other ways really
[18:59] <roffe__>  I was presented with 3 options when firefox wanted me to install a flash-player.. and I chose the one that blocks every flash unless you click on them... How can I remove it and install another?
[18:59] <obnibolongo> consfearacy, gnome-system-monitor in gnome
[18:59] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: I don't know anything about csound, maybe try the manual? "man csound"
[18:59] <obnibolongo> consfearacy, kde I don't know
[19:00] <gaara> hi
[19:00] <scizzo-> Sake: do-release-upgrade will upgrade the whole server to hardy version
[19:00] <age> !dvd
[19:00] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[19:00] <CyberCod> roffe__: I'm in the same boat as you
[19:00] <compengi> i have a problem with my nvidia restricted drivers after installing hardy. the resolution went to 640x480 after the reboot and i couldn't change it. i tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but things when more messed up. i rolled back the xorg.conf file then tried to add the refreshing rates of my monitor and added displaying mode resolution, but this didn't help either. anyone that could help?
[19:00] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[19:00] <lastelement0> ﻿hey all i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and after upgrade my wireless card no longer works. i know i had a restricted driver. but how can i get it back?
[19:00] <gaara> what is the best way to install apache 1.3 Using the Non-SSL Dynamic Shared Objects Installation Method   or Using the Non-SSL Traditional Installation Method    or Using the SSL Dynamic Shared Object Installation Method
[19:00] <amikrop> jharkn: have you read what is happening?
[19:00] <amikrop> jharkn: see the link
[19:00] <Sake> scizzo-: what does that mean? It changes the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to all the hardy servers and then does the apt-get update?
[19:00] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: yes I have
[19:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat > lastelement0,
[19:00] <gafatoa> hello guys ! Using gusty I was able to define a clone for my TV 1680x1050 + 1024x768 and switch from one to the other using xrandr. Now under hardy this method doesn't work anymore. Can anyone help me ?
[19:00] <amikrop> jharkn: why mixer cannot be ran?
[19:00] <scizzo-> Sake: update, upgrade etc
[19:00] <kilrae> can anybody think of a reason why i would be able to mount my XP partition in ubuntu but not be able to boot it?
[19:00] <obnibolongo> Sake, ok; don't know that case in particular. Anyway, an upgrade is possible, and one of the solutions presented to you should work; but personally I can't help you as I have no prior experience with server versions :/
[19:00] <absnt> How do I kill an application through the term?
[19:00] <Karine_> I am getting a problem that the file .dmrc doesn't have the right rights or something?
[19:00] <izak_heron> how can i install a tar.gz theme on hardy?
[19:00] <Karine_> in 8.04
[19:01] <scizzo-> Sake: its a simple way to upgrade to hardy really
[19:01] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: looks like "mixer" is not the command you're looking for
[19:01] <roffe__> CyberCod: Let's hope someone helps us then :)
[19:01] <graingert> roffe__: apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[19:01] <scizzo-> Sake: I did it on my server and worked fine...
[19:01] <Lapinux> mut80r: same thing
[19:01] <icqnumber> !hardy
[19:01] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[19:01] <Sake> scizzo-: Let's say I want to install ubuntu 6.06, but I want it updated with all security patches. How do you do that? You'd install 6.06 then do 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[19:01] <graingert> roffe__ it will say you can't without removing a dependancy, say yes
[19:01] <jajahuser29> lastelement0 do you install restricted drivers?
[19:01] <amikrop> jharkn: I want the simple sound options applet.
[19:01] <harking> noodlesgc: any luck yet?
[19:01] <noodlesgc> harking no, you?
[19:01] <roffe__> Couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree
[19:01] <izak_heron> ﻿how can i install a tar.gz theme on hardy?
[19:01] <CyberCod> graingert: wouldn't  that be flashplugin-nonfree ?
[19:01] <mut80r> Lapinux: doing anything impressivly kick-ass to X? like, I don't know, several graphs or moving graphics, etc
[19:01] <ProN00b> kilrae, bootloader decides what gets booted, so you need to config your bootloader to be able to boot it
[19:01] <harking> noodlesgc: not yet, checkin the forums
[19:02] <CyberCod> graingert: and how do you remove the other one?
[19:02] <lastelement0> jajahuser29, it installed my ATI card just fine, but for some reason my wireless card did not
[19:02] <welly> Hello all - question about Wubi for Ubuntu. Does it run ubuntu in a window like a virtualisation product or some other way?
[19:02] <scizzo-> Sake: you want to mix 6.06 and hardy packages? not a very good idea IMO
[19:02] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: alsamixer? though that's nothing to do with csound
[19:02] <graingert> roffe__ add all repos + restricted
[19:02] <amikrop> jharkn: not, the GUI one
[19:02] <simonft2> add/remove programs freezes when I try to install stuff.
[19:02] <harking> welly: it can
[19:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Sake, you dont need dist-upgrade for the patches
[19:02] <CyberCod> welly: I'm using a wubi install currently
[19:02] <scizzo-> Sake: since there are dependencies and so on that might cause more problems
[19:02] <amikrop> jharkn: the common one
[19:02] <harking> welly: err, i missunderstood
[19:02] <noodlesgc> harking, im gonna try via command line, see if can get any good output
[19:02] <harking> you have to reboot to use it
[19:02] <roffe__> graingert: yeha, I have.. weird
[19:02] <harking> noodlesgc: good luck ;)
[19:03] <welly> harking: ahh gotcha
[19:03] <age> !memory
[19:03] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[19:03] <CyberCod> welly:  it is not like a virtual machine
[19:03] <icqnumber> !developer
[19:03] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu developer? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newdev and the Wiki (http://wiki.ubuntu.com) for involvement in specific projects such as Kubuntu or Xubuntu.
[19:03] <ratalin> i was wondering if there was a way to grap a pid (like doing a fg) ? (i was doing a dist-upgrade and the ssh session was killed, the process is still running and i dont want to kill it)
[19:03] <Lapinux> mut80r: well, i was watching the moving graph in system monitor, i just switched to a different tab and it dropped off
[19:03] <age> !memory upgrade
[19:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about memory upgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:03] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : tellme about your wireless card
[19:03] <Sake> Jack_Sparrow: what do you do for the patches then?
[19:03] <graingert> roffe__ ok tabcomplete flashplugin
[19:03] <Sake> damn, it's so hard to follow anything on this channel... this is insane
[19:03] <roffe__> graingert: I do it from synaptic instead
[19:03] <mut80r> Lapinux: the graph eats CPU  :P
[19:03] <welly> CyberCod: ok no problems. i'll run it from vmware player then I think
[19:03] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: sorry I don't really know, if mixer is a part of csound then try "csound --help" or google
[19:03] <simonft2> add/remove programs freezes after I click apply
[19:03] <NekoKun> !gentoo
[19:03] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Sake, keep current with the updates and you will be fine
[19:03] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: sorry I can't really help
[19:03] <Flannel> ratalin: ps aux | less, more specifically, ps aux | grep ssh
[19:03] <lastelement0> jajahuser29: im pretty sure that its an intel 3945? i know that its an intel not broadcom like most had   and i have a dell inspiron e1505 laptop
[19:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !lts
[19:03] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[19:03] <Sake> Jack_Sparrow: How do i do that on a server (no gui)? apt-get upgrade?
[19:04] <Lapinux> mut80r: im stunned that it was that much though
[19:04] <CyberCod> welly, it will run better installed via wubi... and you can remove it if you want to later
[19:04] <scizzo-> Sake: have you looked at the upgrade suggestions on the website?
[19:04] <kaminix> Will someone please tell me this Hardy release is some kind of joke?`It's horrible! My network card no longer works out of the box, and now that I'm in my base system trying to reinstall everything, my work is being post-poned by the computer locking up EVERY time it's supposed to give a system beep (like each time I tab or press the damn left arrow key). Anyone has any idea as to how I can...
[19:04] <kaminix> ...atleast fix the looking up prob and I'll be fine!
[19:04] <izak_heron> how can i add a theme to my themes folder in ubuntu?
[19:04] <ratalin> Flannel: thanks but that shows the process i want to put it in the fg so i can use it
[19:04] <mut80r> Lapinux: depends on hwo big the graph is. I know it eats half of mine when I maximize the window
[19:04] <CyberCod> graingert: I installed the flashplugin-nonfree... how do I get firefox to use it instead of the other one?
[19:04] <welly> CyberCod: i would do but i need to access windows fairly regularly throughout the day (unfortunately) and so rebooting every 1/2 hour or so might become a bit of a pain
[19:04] <Flannel> ratalin: You can't
[19:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kaminix, please tone it down...
[19:04] <evand> welly: it is *not* emulation or virtualization.
[19:04] <amikrop> jharkn: I want the common one. That what exists in every new installation.
[19:04] <simonft2> add/remove apps freazes
[19:04] <ratalin> Flannel: thanks :) damn
[19:04] <Sake> scizzo-: you don't understand what I'm trying to do. What I'm doing is installing an older version of ubuntu from scratch, but making sure that it is updated, without jumping to a new version.
[19:05] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : type in terminal :lspci and the copy to pastebin page
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sake yes
[19:05] <Flannel> ratalin: and actually, it'll kill itself in a bit when it times out.  You should look into GNU screen
[19:05] <Sake> so in a nutshell, what's the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade?
[19:05] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: You do need dist-upgrade for updates
[19:05] <graingert> CyberCod go to synaptics and search flash, remove (+purge) the one you don't need
[19:05] <jharkn> ﻿amikrop: alsamixer is common, try running it,see if it's what you're looking for
[19:05] <Flannel> Sake: one pulls in new dependencies, the other wont (new dependencies include new kernels)
[19:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[19:05] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:05] <noodlesgc> harking try this sudo do-release-upgrade it seems to be working
[19:05] <harking> noodlesgc: it just started working again
[19:06] <CyberCod> graingert:   i = stupid today... I shoulda thought of that
[19:06] <Lapinux> mut80r: check it out http://howtolinux.us/screenshots/Screenshot.png
[19:06] <harking> noodlesgc: doh, nevermind, locked again
[19:06] <simonft2> when I type sudo apt-get install then the program, it says unable to resolve host
[19:06] <age> ty all. bye
[19:06] <milly123> I am getting alot of "dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/wlan0"   messages in my logs could this be part of my slow wireless problem? and if so how do I fix it? please
[19:06] <harking> do-release-upgrdae eh?
[19:06] <Flannel> Sake: since linux-image-* depends on linux-image-[version]-* and the version numbers change, its a new depends, you need dist-upgrade to bring it in
[19:06]  * harking tries it
[19:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel, Odd, I had never head that
[19:06] <lastelement0> jajahuser29: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64405/
[19:06] <graingert> CyberCod: lolbike
[19:06] <mut80r> Lapinux: all I can say is ouch  ;)
[19:06] <noodlesgc> harking i get error : could not calculate the upgrade.
[19:06] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: its the only way to get new kernels.. most other packages won't need it, since their package names wont change, but most people consider kernels to be security updates ;)
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !slow > simonft2
[19:07] <kaminix> Jack_Sparrow: Tone it down? All changes I've seen since installing the RC have been for the worse, and I've been an Ubuntu user since Hoary. Anyway, I'm looking for ideas as to how I can fix so that it won't lock up at pretty much random so I can install my system in peace
[19:07] <[T]-Rex> if i want to upgrade my 7.10 to 8.04, do i get alternate or desktop cd ?
[19:07] <izak_heron> how do i change folder options so that i can copy stuff into it?
[19:07] <graingert> CyberCod: purge is required so firefox does not look for the plugin
[19:07] <jbur1> graingert: so how do I fix the gnome-panel?
[19:07] <simonft2> ok
[19:07] <simonft2> thanks
[19:07] <Lapinux> mut80r: i saw that graph and was like, what the heck, and the processes tab wasnt matching up
[19:07] <Flannel> [T]-Rex: Alternate CD
[19:07] <amazen720> no help huh?
[19:07] <CyberCod> graingert: same as "complete removal" right?
[19:07] <izak_heron> how do i change folder options so that i can copy stuff into it?
[19:07] <graingert> jbur1: I don't know, I think a reinstall of gnome right
[19:07] <absnt> Anyone elses apt-get take FOREVER to connect to the ubuntu archive?
[19:07] <[T]-Rex> ok
[19:07] <Jack_Sparrow> kaminix, you can ask a question without the tone and get better results.
[19:07] <Lapinux> mut80r: thanks for the help
[19:07] <CyberCod> All is working well
[19:07] <Flannel> absnt: Everyone is trying to download lots of stuff right now, yes the mirrors are slow
[19:07] <CorbinFox> absnt: perhaps it is being flooded by the upgrades? no clue if that is it tho
[19:07] <mut80r> Lapinux: no problem
[19:08] <graingert> CyberCod: yeah apt and synaptics use different words ---> bug!
[19:08] <venik> my upgrade crashed-- how can I revive ADEPT?  It now says that it cannot commit
[19:08] <absnt> Flannel: Thats what I figured, =/ oh well
[19:08] <kesi> Hi guys, I'm having a hard time implementing nocat splash on dd-wrt v24 Rc-7.   Just get a 404 error after hitting continue button. Here's the splash (http://beehivebuzz.com/splash.html) and a screenie of the settings (http://beehivebuzz.com/Screenshot.png) can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?
[19:08] <john__> anyone know how to fix sigsergv error on k9copy driving me mental
[19:08] <calamari> hi
[19:08] <venik> I cannot even install from the live cd
[19:08] <CyberCod> graingert:   not really a bug... synonyms... it happens
[19:08] <compengi> i have a problem with my nvidia restricted drivers after installing hardy. the resolution went to 640x480 after the reboot and i couldn't change it. i tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but things went more messed up. i rolled back the xorg.conf file then tried to add the refreshing rates of my monitor and added displaying mode resolution, but this didn't help either. anyone that could help?
[19:08] <roffe__> graingert: Thanks a lot, I got it running now... I wasn't really unhappy with the way it operated, but some things didn't even work at all!
[19:09] <jharkn> !test
[19:09] <ubotu> Failed.
[19:09] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : the card is in your sistem ,do you have encription key?
[19:09] <graingert> roffe__ : cool
[19:09] <v0lksman> compengi: install envyng-core and envyng-gtk and have it install the drivers for you ....you'll be rock solid
[19:09] <lastelement0> jajahuser29: no i do not
[19:09] <josh04> compengi: Are you sure the driver is working?
[19:09] <calamari> I have a friend who just installed 8.04 from within windows (I guess that's a new feature?  I always used the alternatives cd).. anyways, he says that the window boot menu shows up and he has to press esc to get to the grub boot menu.. what's up with that?
[19:09] <graingert> roffer__: what was the other flash you had it sounds cool
[19:09] <izak_heron> ﻿how do i change folder options so that i can copy stuff into it?
[19:09] <amazen720> no know one knows how this fix this huh?
[19:09] <MrBill> Are the repos still being slammed by people doing upgrades, or have things settled down yet? I'd like to upgrade my system, but don't wanna do it if the downloads are still going to be really slow
[19:10] <compengi> josh04, any ideas on how to test?
[19:10] <mut80r> izak_heron:  sudo chown /folder/
[19:10] <mut80r> !chown | izak_heron
[19:10] <jbur1> I am *SO* glad I didn't upgrade all my machines especially my work machine.
[19:10] <ubotu> izak_heron: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:10] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : is the card enable in the network manager ?
[19:10] <josh04> compengi: do what v0lksman said, it'll probably fix your problem
[19:10]  * liamrharvey slaps FloodBot2 with a big red brick
[19:10] <roffe__> graingert: Can't remember, gonna check :)
[19:10] <mut80r> liamrharvey: lmao
[19:10] <lastelement0> jajahuser29: actually i guess it is working....just the light isnt on...
[19:10] <lastelement0> weird
[19:11] <amazen720> ﻿﻿ubuntu 8.04 after install xserver-xgl, screen works as if no display driver is installed, like in windows. any help?
[19:11]  * liamrharvey says whos got a problem
[19:11] <graingert> roffe__ roflemao
[19:11] <scizzo-> amazen720: nvidia?
[19:11] <giggsey> Just installed Hardy, and when I login, it gives a blank grey box in the top left of the screen, and hangs for 5 minutes. Then it'll sign in, saying that the gnome settings daemon didn't start, and then a minute later the logon sound plays. Any ideas?
[19:11] <jharkn> !ping
[19:11] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[19:11] <Sake> what happened to automatix?
[19:11] <graingert> ping
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Sake, We buried it.. with a stake in its heart
[19:12] <Flannel> Sake: it's dead, besides unneccesary
[19:12] <jbur1> graingert: the funniest part is that even after mounting the original installation disc back ubuntu package management can't detect it and keeps prompting me for the disc again
[19:12] <mut80r> Sake: automatix broke thousands of machines. it was ... discontinued
[19:12] <amazen720> scizzo: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[19:12] <scizzo-> amazen720: fglrx?
[19:12] <graingert> jbur1: compleate re-install sorry
[19:12] <roffe__> graingert: I'm fairly sure this was the flash decoder - "libswfdec-0.6-90"
[19:12] <andycaass> #/j ubuntu-release-party
[19:12]  * liamrharvey slaps _rp with a rainbow trout
[19:12] <Fa> #/j ubuntu-release-party
[19:12] <simonft2> !ubotu
[19:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:12] <andycaass> whoa
[19:12] <jharkn> # before chan name
[19:13]  * Pelo needs someone with a cleanly installed 8.04 to test  a theme issue 
[19:13] <andycaass> I wasnt looking at the screen
[19:13] <jbur1> graingert: I've got so much stuff configured on this machine.  what would a reinstall get me?  will the next release also fail to upgrade like every past release?
[19:13] <amazen720> scizzo: how do  find that out?
[19:13] <necro606> hi i am haveing problems viewing video's on firefox i don't know if i have the correct addons to run them. When i get on youtube to test the addons fire fox freezes up and i can't do any thing, while the video is verry choppy
[19:13] <mut80r> Pelo: what kind of issue ?
[19:13] <calamari> I have a friend who just installed 8.04 from within windows (I guess that's a new feature?  I always used the alternatives cd).. anyways, he says that the Windows boot menu shows up first and he has to press esc to get to the grub boot menu.. what's up with that?  I told him to run grub-install /dev/hda.. hopefully that fixes it?  any ideas?
[19:13] <nickrober> can someone help me, i get error DNS failure: NXDOMAIN when trying to use vnc viewer in hardy
[19:13] <Sake> I heard that automatix made installation of software super easy. Isn't it just easier to add the extended repositories and use apt-get?
[19:13] <Pelo> mut80r, I small mod where the titlebar buttons aren'T the correct color
[19:13] <calamari> Sake: yes that's easier
[19:13] <Pelo> mut80r, are you volunteering ?
[19:13] <jharkn> !automatix
[19:13] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:13] <scizzo-> amazen720: well I believe that when using xserver-xgl you will need to use the fglrx driver or something simular
[19:13] <erUSUL> !wubi | calamari
[19:13] <ubotu> calamari: wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[19:14] <jpruskin> 'lo all- quick question: can I install lilo from the live CD?
[19:14] <mut80r> Pelo: I am.
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Sake, The project was abandoned as it broke as many systems as it fixed
[19:14] <ChaosTheory^> My apt-get isn't working?
[19:14] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : do you make clean install or upgrade to hardy ?
[19:14] <ChaosTheory^> Nothing is able to update? Can't install new things?
[19:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !slow > ChaosTheory^
[19:14] <lastelement0> jajahuser29: i upgraded
[19:14] <jharkn> !slow | ﻿ChaosTheory^
[19:14] <ubotu> ﻿ChaosTheory^: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[19:14] <void^> calamari: sounds like "hiddenmenu" in menu.lst (but i really have no idea how wubi does things.)
[19:14] <Matafaka> i really messed up my vsftpd, can anyone please help me out?
[19:14] <ChaosTheory^> Oh, okay.
[19:14] <Pelo> mut80r, ok set the default human theme from the appearance menu and then download this  window border   http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1043
[19:14] <amazen720> scizzo-: how do I get it?
[19:14] <m3ltd0wn123> When I try to connect to my newly installed proftpd server, it says "connection closed by host" even when I try to connect from local machine
[19:15] <thingfish1> calamari, the way he did it, ubuntu didn't modify the mbr.  what you're telling him to do will
[19:15] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : some times is not working fine upgrades
[19:15] <graingert> jbur1: possibly, you could remove your .gnome files in home, but if a new user fails to work correctly then it can't be that
[19:15] <nickrober> can someone help me, i get error DNS failure: NXDOMAIN when trying to use vnc viewer in hardy
[19:15] <amazen720> scizzo-: or check if I have it installed?
[19:15] <calamari> thingfish1: excellent.. thanks :)
[19:15] <scizzo-> amazen720: I am guessing you want good performance with compiz.....from what I can see is that fglrx alone is better then xserver-xgl
[19:15] <graingert> how do I get samba to see the names of windows macines?
[19:15] <noodlesgc> harking any news? is it working?
[19:15] <spatry> Hi guys.
[19:15] <mut80r> Pelo: it is not installing.
[19:15] <scizzo-> amazen720: it is a restricted driver I believe......
[19:15] <Pelo> mut80r, just drag drop the tar.gz on the apperance manager windows,  it will install,  then selecting the human them,  just click on customise , window border tab,   select  clearlooks-pinstripe
[19:15] <simonft2> !s time
[19:15] <ubotu> s time is correct
[19:16] <jbur1> my code repositories are hosted on this particular machine (not that I have them backed up) but now I'll have to set all of it up again.
[19:16] <mut80r> Pelo: nevermind. alphabetical order
[19:16] <necro606> can anyone help w/ the video problem i am having in firefox
[19:16] <karine__> Just after i enter my username and password i get an error that the user rights of the .dmrc arn't in order, it says it should be 644, owned by me and only writable by me... I think it is now what? I am new to 8.04 didn't expect this
[19:16] <mut80r> Pelo: theme installed
[19:16] <spatry> How can we have ubuntu live cd use a persistent home directory?  I've tried naming usb key "casper-rw" and booting with "persistent" kernel option.. no luck.
[19:16] <spatry> any sugestion?
[19:16]  * jbur1 doesn't trust the ubuntu upgrade process any longer.
[19:16] <jajahuser29> lastelement0  : in my pc i have /home partition and every time i make clean install
[19:16]  * bintrue|work agrees
[19:16] <Pelo> mut80r, I just need to know if the close minimised buttons on the active windows title bar are black or white ?
[19:16] <noodlesgc> is anyone else having problems getting to ubuntuforums.org
[19:17] <sdfliuayw47g> noodlesgc: yep, its really slow
[19:17] <xphisherx> does anyone have anything to say about hardy?  i haven't updated .. i'm too scared to do it.. :(
[19:17]  * jharkn doesn't trust ﻿jbur1 any longer
[19:17] <calamari> jbur1: I've never used it.. I am a rebel I guess.. I just change my repositiories and upgrade.. they say don't do that.. but it works for me :)
[19:17] <simonft2> works fine for me
[19:17] <graingert> anyone know howto settup samba to see wins clients
[19:17] <Flannel> karine__: alt-f2 then enter this: chmod 644 ~/.dmrc
[19:17] <mut80r> Pelo: they are blue background with white foreground
[19:17] <Baby_Shambl3s> is ubuntuforums.org down or is it something with my system?
[19:17] <jbur1> jharkn: it doesn't matter.  I didn't expect it to bring down my machine instead of upgrading it.
[19:17] <Pelo> mut80r, from thte control tab select the human theme
[19:17] <nickrober> forums are down for me
[19:17] <jbur1> all my work got delayed
[19:17] <simonft2> ﻿Baby_Shambl3s: its down for some reason
[19:17] <lesjohn> can i install hardy without erasing my home directory?
[19:17] <graingert> Baby_Shambl3s: no just slow
[19:17] <mut80r> Pelo: done
[19:18] <scizzo-> amazen720: I have never installed it myself....maybe a package called xserver-fglrx or something like that?
[19:18] <graingert> lesjohn: yes
[19:18] <andycaass> why doesnt my 8.04 rc offer upgrade??
[19:18] <calamari> jbur1: maybe the reason it works ok for me tho is because I've removed all the ubuntu meta packages
[19:18] <scizzo-> amazen720: but I am not sure
[19:18] <simonft2> ﻿lesjohn: fro scratch, or from a previous version
[19:18] <Pelo> mut80r, you should get a dark orange  title bar , whit txt and buttons, on active , black txt and buttons on inactive
[19:18] <jharkn> ﻿jbur1: yeah, sorry, it sucks I just havn't had to upgrade yet, that joy is ahead of me
[19:18] <graingert> lesjohn: if you want to
[19:18] <scizzo-> andycaass: cause there are no changes?
[19:18] <Baby_Shambl3s> graingert: thanx i was wondeirng if my system was going haywire i guess i'll try later
[19:18] <anteaya> i just downloaded a tar.gz package entitled ruby defaults.  Two questions, where is the best place to unpack it, and do i have to do ./configure then make and then make install?
[19:18] <mut80r> Pelo: yes
[19:18] <jharkn> ﻿jbur1: I only started with hardy beta
[19:18]  * calamari is still back at Feisty.. lol
[19:18] <gustavo_> new version effect
[19:18] <andycaass> scizzo-: ?
[19:18] <nickrober> does anyone know what DNS failure: NXDOMAIN is in regards to the hardy vnc viewer?
[19:18] <jbur1> I'm switching that machine to debian
[19:18] <scizzo-> andycaass: there are no change from RC -> official release
[19:18] <giggsey> Just installed Hardy, and when I login, it gives a blank grey box in the top left of the screen, and hangs for 5 minutes. Then it'll sign in, saying that the gnome settings daemon didn't start, and then a minute later the logon sound plays. Any ideas?
[19:18] <Pelo> mut80r, can you dcc me your /usr/share/themes/human/gtk gtkrc file ?
[19:19] <pandora--> is there any possible way to upgrade 8.04 through some mirror?  40kb/s is gonna take a while :(
[19:19] <bintrue|work> why oh why would ubuntu LTS include beta version of Firefox?!
[19:19] <sdfliuayw47g> andycass: if you installed from the RC you're already at the latest build
[19:19] <andycaass> scizzo-: ok....
[19:19] <harking> noodlesgc: i'm trying the command line
[19:19] <wuxia> I have a bunch of iptables rules that I want loaded up with iptables-restore whenever my computer boots up. What's the 'ubuntu way' to make this happen?
[19:19] <simonft2> !mirror
[19:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[19:19] <karine__> Flannel: didn't work
[19:19] <minger> anyone know hot to fix sigserv error in k9copy
[19:19] <graingert> bintrue: it was meant to be out of beta on the hardy release dare
[19:19] <harking> noodlesgc: calculated changes just fine
[19:19] <harking> fetching packagese
[19:19] <noodlesgc> harking :( no fair
[19:20] <basvg> hmm... when I start the update manager to upgrade to 8.04 it just shows a grey screen and sits there.... waiting for smoething it seems. Is that normal?
[19:20] <mut80r> Pelo: incoming
[19:20] <Pelo> mut80r, yes thank you
[19:20] <scizzo-> basvg: overloaded repos...
[19:20] <simonft2> ﻿basvg: yes, happened to me, use a torrent
[19:20] <NekoKun> !minimal
[19:20] <ubotu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[19:20] <Genscher> hey :)
[19:20] <techknow> can someone help me with my logitech usb headset in hardy? the sound test work in the control panel but all the programs are using the speakers, even though I have set the default sound device to USB
[19:20] <basvg> hmmm, might be better to wait a fe days then :p
[19:20] <jbur1> yes, please wait for a few days
[19:20] <Genscher> anyone knows the maximum colors for usplash 0.5.x (hardy)?
[19:20] <giggsey> Is there another audio program instead of audiopulse. I think it's crashing on boot for me :(
[19:20]  * Pelo wonders why mut80r 'S dcc is not transferning
[19:20] <Genscher> is it 256?
[19:21] <bleaked> what is the preferred way of launching emerald for hardy?
[19:21] <karine__> Flannel: can it be the above folder it says "drwxrwxrwx 43 karine karine 4096 2008-04-25 20:12 /home/karine/"
[19:21]  * mut80r wonders the same. hold on. I have a webserver to upload it to.
[19:21] <anteaya> i just downloaded a tar.gz package entitled ruby defaults.  Two questions, where is the best place to unpack it, and do i have to do ./configure then make and then make install?
[19:21] <instantsoup> hello
[19:21] <lesjohn> simonft2: i tried to do an upgrade to hardy, but it crashed in the middle (though most things still run).  i think i'll just do a new install, but i'd like to not touch home
[19:21] <Tpop> Any advice for Hardy and a verizon wireless (sierrawireless) 595U?
[19:21] <prey_alone> I'm thinking about updating to 8.04, but I'm not sure how well the new version supports MacBooks. Any Mac users out there?
[19:21] <Pelo> mut80r, thanks
[19:21] <Baby_Shambl3s> does anyone here also use xcompmgr & or transset/transset-df? if so how did you get transparency all all menus automatically?
[19:21] <compengi> josh04, envyng is working now, but i can see that he is preparing to get the nvidia drivers from the nvidia source
[19:21] <basvg> thanks all... take care
[19:21] <noodlesgc> i may just have to do a clean install
[19:22] <simonft2> ﻿lesjohn: same thing happed to me, I just resumed and it was fine
[19:22] <andril> can Bind be configured remotely?
[19:22] <instantsoup> can anyone help a newb :)? i just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a second partition on my laptop and now i can't boot into windows anymore :(
[19:22] <jpruskin> Can I install LILO on my partition (not my MBR) from the 8.04 LiveCD?
[19:22] <prey_alone> andril: through an SSH console
[19:22] <Fa> instantsoup use GAG it is very easy to use
[19:22] <dp72> Where can i change de mail notification sound in Evolution?
[19:22] <lesjohn> simonft2: how do you resume? it doesn't show up in update manager for me
[19:22] <jpruskin> instantsoup: You've put your ubuntu partition as the bootable. Use the partition manager to edit the flags. \=
[19:22] <prey_alone> instantsoup: can you use the GRUB menu at boot to choose windows?
[19:22] <simonft2> ﻿﻿lesjohn: it will detect the partial upgrade, just click on upgrade again, and It should come back
[19:22] <Darknezz> i got another n00bie question. i got xmms2 and downloaded it. apt-get instal xmms2. now how do i run it?
[19:23]  * bintrue|work regrets upgrading
[19:23] <andril> prey_alone: is it some what easy?
[19:23] <Fa> http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[19:23] <jsg> the wiki for ubuntu is screwed up, i just created an account and it hangs
[19:23] <dbristow> aha, google search shows that I'm not the only person whose MD5SUM of wubi.exe doesn't match
[19:23] <simonft2> l﻿esjohn: try the torrent and mounting the cd
[19:23] <mut80r> Pelo:  http://mut80r.com/gtkrc
[19:23]  * jbur1 throws a beer at bintrue|work
[19:23] <techknow> anyone able to help with the audio?
[19:23] <Pelo> mut80r, thanks
[19:23] <instantsoup> urr when the screen comes where i have to press escape i can chose 3 different ubuntus but no windows
[19:23] <NeT_DeMoN> !adio | techknow
[19:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:23] <mut80r> Pelo: no problem
[19:23] <prey_alone> andril: I dunno. My web host did a lot of bind configuration for me, so I don't think my BIND settings actually do anything. But SSH is how you do everything remotely.
[19:23]  * jbur1 regrets upgrading as well @ bintrue|work
[19:23] <NeT_DeMoN> audio | techknow
[19:23] <Genscher> usplash max colors = 256?
[19:23] <NeT_DeMoN> crap >.<
[19:24] <prey_alone> ***jbur1: oh no!
[19:24] <techknow> !audio
[19:24] <NeT_DeMoN> laptops
[19:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:24] <lesjohn> simonft2: thanks, i'll give it a shot.  the iso is downloading now.  i'm using the powerpc port, but hopefully it will have the option
[19:24] <mut80r> NeT_DeMoN: lol
[19:24] <CyberCod> whats the procedure for installing java?
[19:24] <bintrue|work> even flash is a pain to install again
[19:24] <noodlesgc> Darknezz it should be in you "Sound and Video" menu
[19:24] <ttt--> hi, what does 8.04 LTS mean?
[19:24] <ttt--> the LTS part
[19:24] <NeT_DeMoN> eh, he got the point
[19:24] <simonft2> lesjohn: im on a powerbook G4, and it worked for me
[19:24] <Baby_Shambl3s> I'm guessing everyone uses compiz/beryl and others don't use anything at all o_0? Geez need to create a tutorial for those that can't use compiz maybe that way I'll get my hand on some good scripts :/
[19:24] <giggsey> Long Term Support
[19:24] <SimplePlan> alright so ... is there a software to make a partition?
[19:24] <Darknezz> i will look
[19:24] <giggsey> SimplePlan, gparted
[19:24] <ttt--> cool, thanks
[19:24] <noodlesgc> ttt-- long term supprt
[19:24] <Darknezz> i dont see it
[19:24] <Darknezz> :S
[19:24] <cleric> is there a unbutu x86_64 specific channel?
[19:25] <SimplePlan> alright so ... is there a software to make a partition for PC?
[19:25] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: a Ubuntu Live CD does a partition for you :)
[19:25] <noodlesgc> Darknezz you could try just typing xmms
[19:25] <SimplePlan> NeT_DeMoN but how bout all the stuff i have saved?
[19:25] <Darknezz> alright i will try it
[19:25] <Pelo> later folks
[19:25] <compengi> SimplePlan, gparted?
[19:25] <inimesekene> hello, ubuntu gutsy, amarok no longer plays mp3's, it gives the dialong that offers to install mp3 support, then nothing happens, i checked, the playback engine is set to xine and ffmpeg-xine is installed
[19:25] <mut80r> Pelo: cya
[19:25] <CyberCod> anyone?     Java in hardy?
[19:25] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: it will stay the same
[19:25] <efrancolaporte> hi
[19:26] <instantsoup> so what do i do now to get my windows to boot?
[19:26] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: i did it on my laptop with vista and it works perfectly
[19:26] <blue112> hi
[19:26] <SimplePlan> i have XP
[19:26] <SimplePlan> no problem if its XP?
[19:26] <anteaya> i just downloaded a tar.gz package entitled ruby defaults.  Two questions, where is the best place to unpack it, and do i have to do ./configure then make and then make install?
[19:26] <Darknezz> nope i need the source for it.
[19:26] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: its the same :)
[19:26] <sploby> I'm having a erro on Ati Catalyst Control that says: "No ati graphics driver is installed"
[19:26] <efrancolaporte> i just dnlded Hary Heron and package sources are extreeeeeeeemely slow, any way to use alternate sources for faster downloads
[19:26] <cleric> So for some reason my new hardy install ... firefox just stopped working ... i haven't done any updates ... i removed .mozilla ... this is x86_64
[19:26] <giggsey> Just installed Hardy, and when I login, it gives a blank grey box in the top left of the screen, and hangs for 5 minutes. Then it'll sign in, saying that the gnome settings daemon didn't start, and then a minute later the logon sound plays. Any ideas?
[19:26] <karine__> Flannel: i changed the home folder rights to 755 now it's fine
[19:26] <graingert> SimplePlan: it's a legacy os
[19:26] <SimplePlan> NeT_DeMoN so how much shud i partition each to ? like what shud b the sizes
[19:26] <nous> hi all, i've got a problem configuring my screen resolution on hardy
[19:26] <karine__> Flannel: thanks for the tip
[19:26] <efrancolaporte> also, any way to make automatix work for Ubuntu 8.04
[19:27] <rodrigop> hi, i have ati x600 in ubuntu 7.10 and configured dual-hea using y-cable.. ok, left monitor do not present gnome, cursor X and black screen.
[19:27] <m3ltd0wn123> When I try to connect to my newly installed proftpd server, it says "connection closed by host" even when I try to connect from local machine
[19:27] <simonft2> ﻿SimplePlan: it's all automatic
[19:27] <SimplePlan> i have a 50 GB HD
[19:27] <b33r> Hello, why I can't find my beloved xmms in hardy? :0
[19:27] <fysa> Where can I find apt mirrors?
[19:27] <simonft2> ﻿SimplePlan: unless you want a dual boot
[19:27] <CyberCod> SimplePlan  is it all blank?
[19:27] <SimplePlan> no
[19:27] <gafatoa> hello, does the clone mode (monitor/tv) work under hardy ?
[19:27] <SimplePlan> i have windows on it
[19:27] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: i split mine perfectly in half but make sure you clear your cookies and defragment before you partition
[19:27] <noodlesgc> efrancolaporte the only solution is probably to wait a few days
[19:27] <SimplePlan> and lotsa files
[19:27] <boy> i have x64 hardy, and it's perfect :)
[19:28] <sploby> anyone knows how to work?
[19:28] <graingert> gafotoa: yes
[19:28] <jbur1> boy: it's far from it
[19:28] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: as i said, just clear your cookies and defragment
[19:28] <simonft2> ﻿sploby: nope, no job
[19:28] <mut80r> sploby: be specific please.
[19:28] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: you will have plenty of room
[19:28] <CyberCod> SimplePlan: how much free space is on it?
[19:28] <graingert> b33r: you need xmms2 and a front end
[19:28] <SimplePlan> ok once i get ubuntu ... can i transfer all my files to the ubantu parition ... and then get rid of XP and then merge the two drives?
[19:28] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: unless your hardrive completely full :S
[19:28] <sploby>  erro on Ati Catalyst Control that says: "No ati graphics driver is installed"
[19:28] <gafatoa> graingert, it worked well for me under gusty and i can't make it work under hardy.
[19:29] <compengi> !paste
[19:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:29] <simonft2> ﻿SimplePlan: no back it up somewhere
[19:29] <SimplePlan> i have about 10 GIG free
[19:29] <b33r-> compengi <3
[19:29] <compengi> hey
[19:29] <b33r-> why you are not on msn? :O
[19:29] <SimplePlan> but im willin to get rid of some stuff
[19:29] <CyberCod> SimplePlan: check IM
[19:29] <gafatoa> graingert, my tv and my monitor have different resolutions.
[19:29] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: if your going to do that, back it up on the internet or something like an external hard drive and just flash the entire harddrive
[19:30] <compengi> b33r-, la2annou ma3ma3a 2awiyeh.. il vga manna shighaleh 3indi. fishi ghalat :S
[19:30] <Assid> heya
[19:30] <liamrharvey> if people need help come to my channel by typing /join ubuntuhelpliam
[19:30] <coldfeet> !rules
[19:30] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[19:30] <b33r-> woh
[19:30] <liamrharvey>  if people need help come to my channel by typing /join ubuntuhelpliam
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[19:30] <liamrharvey>  if people need help come to my channel by typing /join ubuntuhelpliam
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[19:30] <sploby> mut80r:  erro on Ati Catalyst Control that says: "No ati graphics driver is installed"
[19:30] <FloodBot2> liamrharvey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <SimplePlan> NeT_DeMoN yea thats wat im doin at the moment ... but its takin forever ... cuz im like makin everything important to rar and then sendin to my other comp
[19:30] <mut80r> Someone help sploby with his ATi card please. I have no experience with ATi.
[19:30] <liamrharvey> whats with floodbot2
[19:30] <gafatoa> graingert, thanks for your answer and bye
[19:31] <efrancolaporte> i just dnlded Hary Heron and package sources are extreeeeeeeemely slow, any way to use alternate sources for faster downloads
[19:31] <SimplePlan> and no i dont have a router
[19:31] <efrancolaporte> also, any way to make automatix work for Ubuntu 8.04
[19:31] <NeT_DeMoN> SimplePlan: it takes patence (if i spelled it right
[19:31] <NeT_DeMoN> )
[19:31] <simonft2> !floodbot|﻿liamrharvey
[19:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floodbot - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:31] <v0lksman> sploby: sorry...just jumping in here...how did you install the drivers?
[19:31] <liamrharvey> if people need help come to my channel by typing /join ubuntuhelpliam
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[19:31] <liamrharvey> [19:30] <coldfeet> !rules
[19:31] <liamrharvey> [19:30] <b33r-> woh
[19:31] <FloodBot2> liamrharvey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <CyberCod> SimplePlan: if it were me, I would create a 10Gig ext3 partition, a 1Gig swap partition and then install.  Ubuntu can write to NTFS just fine, and you can just delete your Windows directory and Program Files as you see fit.
[19:31] <Assid> hey
[19:31] <biabia> hardy ububtu..using the newer kernel with the upgrade my drives listed in my /etc/fstab wont mount, but they mount fine with the previous kernel.  In 'dmesg' it says the driver sd and sr need updating, but all I can find on google is bug reports.  cant find how to update the drivers
[19:31] <Assid> i installed this nautilis svn scripts
[19:31] <jackdaw> hey all, how's the in-system update working out for people?
[19:31] <Assid> however i dont see it shoping it
[19:31] <instantsoup> i can't find the partition manager or anything :( My windows won't boot, at the screen where you have to press esc to choose the OS it gives me 3 choices for ubuntu but none for windows :(
[19:31] <tyler__> I need help from anyone that has used Damn Small Linux
[19:31] <liamrharvey> if people need help come to my channel by typing /join #ubuntuhelpliam
[19:31] <Assid> showing up
[19:31] <mut80r> !graphics | sploby
[19:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:31] <Assid> tyler-_: !!!
[19:32] <jackdaw> im on 64 bit and i don't want to re-flash the whole system again
[19:32] <mut80r> !ati | sploby
[19:32] <mut80r> hmm.
[19:32] <compengi> b33r-, 2inta 3indak mashekil bil hardy?
[19:32] <sploby> mut80r: ? sudo apt-get ati?
[19:32] <jackdaw> @instantsoup: you need to add the windows thing back into grub, someone smarter than me can explain it better
[19:32] <mut80r> sploby: I have no idea.
[19:32] <v0lksman> sploby: how did you install your driver?
[19:33] <v0lksman> and what card do you ahve?
[19:33] <v0lksman> *have
[19:33] <sploby> v0lksman: i installed envyng but it says that the system don't support envy
[19:33] <amirman84> are other people having problems with the ubuntu forums?
[19:33] <instantsoup> urm thanks i guess... now i just need to know how to do that
[19:33] <sploby> v0lksman: but i install envy legacy
[19:33] <jackdaw> @amirman84 yeah its' hung, i think too much traffic
[19:33] <Fa> yes i think the forums is overloaded lol
[19:33] <dbristow> it's just very slow
[19:33] <v0lksman> sploby: sorry...which did you install?  legacy or ng?
[19:33] <NukeSkyjumper> the forums are overloaded even when there's not a fresh new release
[19:33] <instantsoup> don't want to lose my windows and the files (ubuntu won't let me into my windows partition)
[19:34] <jackdaw> @instantsoup in all likelyhood you haven't lost them
[19:34] <amirman84> when did the 8.04 update go out? the forums were working fine last night
[19:34] <sploby> v0lksman: both
[19:34] <NukeSkyjumper> we should almost be telling people to wait a few weeks on installing Hardy, since support will be hard to get right now
[19:34] <v0lksman> sploby: hahaha...hardy?
[19:34] <sploby> v0lksman: Gutsy
[19:34] <twinkie_addict> i have no issues getting ito my windows install
[19:34] <trait> is there an alternative to alsamixer on hardy?
[19:34] <instantsoup> well that's a good thing
[19:34] <twinkie_addict> but haveing used wubi may have something to do with that
[19:34] <nucco> how do i download ubuntu via rsync anyone?
[19:34] <NukeSkyjumper> trait: i like aumix
[19:34] <graingert> NukeSkyjumper: it's an lts, what you expect?
[19:34] <v0lksman> sploby: ok...so ng won't work...you can remove it....what happens when you run envy and ask it to automatically install the ATI drivers?
[19:34] <neon> does anyone knows how to make the webcam on an ASUS laptop to work under ubuntu, thanks
[19:35] <rym> how can i check what PID is using /dev/video0
[19:35] <rym> other than fuser
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> NukeSkyjumper, or set to dual boot to keep existing setup while setting up Hardy
[19:35] <SimplePlan> why is ubuntu better than windows?
[19:35] <prakriti> neither is better SimplePlan
[19:35] <jackdaw> @SimplePlan, it's not really better
[19:35] <trait> the problem is, that alsamixer says:
[19:35] <sploby> v0lksman: not even open
[19:35] <blue-frog_> nucco: use a torretn it will be faster
[19:35] <jackdaw> it's more of an apples / oranges situation
[19:35] <prakriti> they are both tools, it really depends on what you wont
[19:35] <prakriti> want
[19:35] <graingert> SimplePlan: don't start!
[19:35] <v0lksman> sploby: envy doesn't open?
[19:35] <emorri1> ﻿instantsoup: i think i came on after your first post, but for me i could not access by windows partition in hardy unless i rebooted
[19:35] <trait> ALSA lib simple_none.c:1738:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Headphone Playback Switch',0,2,0) appears twice or more
[19:35] <trait> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[19:35] <Fa> i am seeding right
[19:35] <simonft2> ﻿jackdaw: yes it is
[19:35] <Fa> now
[19:35] <sploby> v0lksman: yes
[19:35] <mut80r> SimplePlan: different OS'es are better for different people. Use both and you can make an informed decision.
[19:35] <trait> NukeSkyjumper
[19:35] <jackdaw> @SimplePlan although if you wanted to learn programming you might find linux an easier situation
[19:35] <prakriti> SimplePlan : its like saying why is a ferrari better than a pickup truck?
[19:35] <nucco> blue-frog_: i wish to fix a broken download :)
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> SimplePlan, wrong room for that discussion, this is support, you want #Ubuntu-offtopic
[19:35] <v0lksman> sploby: ok...so its not installed properly...how did you install it?
[19:35] <rym> ive been a windows user and pro-windows for ages
[19:36] <jackdaw> @simonft2: well windows,  not vista ok :)
[19:36] <amirman84> simple plan: because it's open source code allows constant updates to be made, it allows for a wide range of security and bug fixes and innovative software to be made for it
[19:36] <simonft2> lol
[19:36] <sploby> v0lksman: sudo apt-get envy
[19:36] <rym> only now that windows crashes every 5 seconds i got a bit annoyed so switched
[19:36] <rym> im still dualbooting though
[19:36] <mut80r> rym: same here  =]
[19:36] <jackdaw> has anyone noticed that update-manager is fucked too
[19:36] <SimplePlan> is it gonna make my computer way faster than it is on windows?
[19:36] <graingert> SimplePlan: it's elitist, it's intellectually challenging and fun
[19:36] <mut80r> !slow | jackdaw
[19:36] <ubotu> jackdaw: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[19:36] <graingert> SimplePlan: quite faster
[19:36] <Assid> err anyone wanna help me with this?
[19:36] <kelvie_> Anyone else have an issue with "Setting up samba-common" freezing?
[19:36] <btse> anybody had success booting a dell latitude c640 with 8.04?
[19:36] <jackdaw> @ubotu -> thanks mr obvious bot
[19:36] <kelvie_> It's been trying to set up overnight
[19:36] <simonft2> ﻿jackdaw: anything connecting to the survers is
[19:36] <mut80r> !ask | Assid
[19:37] <Assid> i cant find the svn scripts for nautilis
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !language > jackdaw,
[19:37] <nucco> au contraire :) my ubuntu is crashing every few days :) for no apparent reason. today it suddenly developed a bad block on the HDD while playing music, I had to do a clean install
[19:37] <ubotu> Assid: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:37] <Assid> mut80r: i know how to ask
[19:37] <neon> does anyone knows how to make the webcam on an ASUS laptop to work under ubuntu, thanks
[19:37] <amirman84> simple plan: it's faster for me, but more so than the speed increasing, the preformance increases, if you have a decent graphics card you'll love compiz-fusion desktop effects
[19:37] <jackdaw> @Assid: do you want svn hooks in nautilus?
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, I have a c640 here, what is the prob.
[19:37] <jackdaw> @Assid: because that'd be really quite nice, i'd like that too
[19:37] <mehal88> okay, i have mounted the hardy image with gmount, but im not sure what to do from here
[19:37] <graingert> nucco: check the smartmon infomation on drive
[19:37] <Assid> jackdaw: yep
[19:37] <SimplePlan> prakriti ur name means nature?
[19:37] <btse> Jack_Sparrow,  no boot cramfs read error
[19:38] <sploby> v0lksman: i tried install the drive with ati-driver-installer-8, but when i restart my screen i a Blank screen and doesn't load nothing
[19:38] <v0lksman> sploby: can you pastebin or put here the output of dpkg -l envy
[19:38] <Assid> i installed the scripts package  didnt help
[19:38] <SimplePlan> is ubutu compatible wit itunes ?
[19:38] <mut80r> Assid:  apt-get nautilus-svn-scripts
[19:38] <jackdaw> @Assid: i guess i just use the terminal a whole bunch so i don't notice. if you're desperate you could probably knock up some simple nautilus bindings in python right?
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, Did the live cd run and install for you
[19:38] <nucco> graingert: i know... its one of those stupid HDDs that park every few seconds, but still its less than two weeks old, so i shouldn't be having issues just yet
[19:38] <Assid> mut80r: did that .. didnt help
[19:38] <instantsoup> emorri1 yeah thats not the problem, i can't boot into my windows anymore :x
[19:38] <seledec> Envy 0.9.10 es modelo para el hardy
[19:38] <warrenDumX> hi
[19:38] <v0lksman> sploby: yeah I wouldn't suggest going that route...not until we exhaust the other ways
[19:38] <gombi1977> How do I restore MBR in Vista if I uninstall Ubuntu? I would like to install it on a virtual machine instead.
[19:38] <simonft2> !spanish
[19:38] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[19:38] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, no live cd won't work, boots and then halts
[19:38] <nucco> it ! seledec
[19:38] <SimplePlan> is ubutu compatible wit itunes ????
[19:39] <nucco> it! | seledec
[19:39] <jackdaw> @instantsoup: ok well try this: get to the grub boot screen, and do the thing so that you can type in commands yourself
[19:39] <mut80r> Assid:  apt-get remove nautilus-svn-scripts and try downloading it again
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, try this  At start or install press F6 and remove Quiet and Splash from the command line. If it still fails.. Repeat and after removing quiet and splash add noapic acpi=off before the "--"
[19:39] <mut80r> gombi: the vista DVD
[19:39] <amirman84> simple plan: ubuntu has its own music managing software choices that are a million times better than itunes
[19:39] <genii> SimplePlan: iTunes is not natively compliant to linux
[19:39] <warrenDumX> i have some empty dvds and i can't access them, also there are no errors messages (dmesg too), what can i do? (other empty cds are working)
[19:39] <amirman84> i personally like amarock
[19:39] <sploby> v0lksman: ii  envy           0.9.10-0ubuntu install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver
[19:39] <instantsoup> yes?
[19:39] <CyberCod> SimplePlan: nope, but it has programs similar to iTunes... and it works with most Ipods
[19:39] <ttt--> im trying to upgrade to 8.04 but i get an authentication error
[19:39] <gombi1977> You mean Vista DVD MBR recovery?
[19:39] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks...  brb!
[19:39] <Assid> mut80r: downloading what again?
[19:39] <jackdaw> @instant soup: then you need to do: grub> rootnoverify (hd0,0) <return> makeactive <return> chainloader +1 <return> boot <return>
[19:39] <Assid> err one sec
[19:39] <jackdaw> @instant soup: and it'll work
[19:39] <Assid> phone call
[19:39] <Assid> mut80r: hold up
[19:39] <nucco> anyone know how to retrieve an ubuntu iso via rsync?
[19:39] <simonft2> ﻿amirman84: not if you want to use a ipod
[19:40] <mut80r> Assid:   apt-get remove nautilus-svn-scripts          apt-get install nautilus-svn-scripts
[19:40] <instantsoup> ok let me write that down
[19:40] <v0lksman> sploby: neat...didn't know it was in the repos....ok...so run envy in a shell.  it should barf some output if it doesn;t want to launch
[19:40] <jackdaw> @instant soup: and then once you're happy that your windows is safe and sound you need to add those commands to your /boot/grub/menu.lst and you'll be all set
[19:40] <amirman84> simonft2: there are ways to get linux software to sync with your ipod depending on what gen ipod you have
[19:40] <jackdaw> @instant soup, you can look here for a nice article about all the fun things you can do with grub:
[19:40] <v0lksman> sploby: the reason I'm pushing this is cause envy is the best way to get them installed...
[19:40] <jackdaw> @instantsoup: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622
[19:40] <genii> SimplePlan: For detailed info http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[19:41] <kelvie_> OK better question: if my dist upgrade crashes, how do I recover from it?
[19:41] <instantsoup> alright im gonna try that thank you
[19:41] <jackdaw> @instantsoup -> it's a problem that i got stuck with for quite a while, it's something that really doesn't need to be exposed to people who arn't interested in it (or noobs) the bootloader i mean.
[19:41] <sploby> v0lksman: yes i know, but can you pass me the sudo apt-get of envy legacy
[19:41] <jackdaw> @instantsoup -> good luck
[19:41] <Pitel> Hi, I upgraded to 8.04 and installed firefox-2, but my extensions aren;t working here. why? and how to fix it?
[19:41] <neon> help can't access e-sata, hd gets recognized once i plug it, but no files show once i click on it
[19:41] <jackdaw> well, i guess i'll just do some actual work instead of upgrading my distro
[19:41] <v0lksman> sploby: pardon?
[19:41] <jackdaw> byee
[19:41] <instantsoup> just so you know, if it works you are my official hero :)
[19:42] <mut80r> jackdaw: cya
[19:42] <jackdaw> @instant soup ask someone or google about editing the grub settings to work with windows when you've convinced yourself it works
[19:42] <jackdaw> laters
[19:42] <kesi> anyone got a response to me?>
[19:42] <sploby> v0lksman: how do i install envy legacy on terminal
[19:42] <mudd`Hossam> hello, can i get my NVIDIA 680i onboard sound (High definition audio) to work over SPDIF?
[19:42] <CyberCod> ok
[19:42] <jackdaw> @kesi  can you rpt the question?
[19:42] <CyberCod> now I am really confused
[19:42] <rjonesx> anyon know how to tell ubuntu to use restricted nvidia drivers in Hardy?
[19:42] <mut80r> !audio | mudd`Hossaim
[19:42] <ubotu> mudd`Hossaim: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[19:42] <nucco> kelvie_: instantsoup what is it about grub?
[19:42] <jackdaw> @mudd`Hossam there should be an option in alsa-mixer
[19:42] <CyberCod> I downloaded and ran the java installer .bin ... still no java in firefox
[19:43] <Assid> mut80r: didnt help
[19:43] <v0lksman> sploby: if it is in the repos then sudo apt-get install envy....however I remember always having to install it from a .deb I download from the authors site...gimme a sec I'll check
[19:43] <graingert> CyperCod: you need the icedtea plugin
[19:43] <mut80r> Assid: I don't know then. Try the forums or someone else in here.
[19:43] <rjonesx> can you run updater from the command line?
[19:43] <mut80r> rjonesx: yes
[19:43] <jackdaw> @rjonesx sudo update-manager -d
[19:43] <CyberCod> via firefox? or synaptic?
[19:43] <kesi> I'm having a hard time getting nocat splash to work. on 24 RC7 the splash page is here: http://beehivebuzz.com/splash.html and here is a screenie of the settings http://beehivebuzz.com/Screenshot.png
[19:43] <Assid> err brb
[19:43] <graingert> rjonesx: if you wan't to
[19:43] <mudd`Hossam> jackdaw: i am able to listen over the analog connections just fine, just SPDIF was not detected i will look into those links though, thank you
[19:43] <jackdaw> @assid did you restart grub
[19:43] <coldfeet> Hi just installed ubuntu 8.0 and replace my xp... Im a newb and having problems installing the nvidia linux driver 169.12 it says it is not supported can anyone help?
[19:43] <dougmin> Where's the best intro to linux info at?
[19:44] <graingert> CyberCod: terminal
[19:44] <arcsky> how to format a usbstick and also make it bootable ?
[19:44] <jackdaw> @mudd`Hossam yeaha you have to sort of turn on the right options in the alsa mixer, it's probably easier to use the gnome version but i found that the command line one had more controlls on it
[19:44] <CyberCod> sudo apt-get install iced-tea   ?
[19:44] <[T]-Rex> is there a free 3d-animation program like softimage for ubuntu?
[19:44] <jackdaw> lets not forget people: sudo apt-cache search "thing you want to install"
[19:44] <pwnd`linux> Who knows to much about Broadcom wireless devices on 8.10?
[19:44] <jackdaw> knowing this will help you a great deal
[19:44] <Moncky> [T]-Rex: try blender
[19:44] <dumnut_> hi, what is the bash command to find out what my ip is?
[19:44] <[T]-Rex> ok
[19:45] <jackdaw> @dumnut ifconfig
[19:45] <graingert> pwnd`linux: ndiswrapper or not at all
[19:45] <mut80r> jackdaw: thanks, didn't know that.
[19:45] <graingert> dumnut ifconfig
[19:45] <ObsidianX> hey folks, for some reason i can't rmmod my sound driver
[19:45] <Moncky> [T]-Rex: http://www.blender.org/
[19:45] <dumnut_> jackdaw: ty
[19:45] <jackdaw> @mut80r yeah it searches all the apt packages you haev available
[19:45] <pwnd`linux> graingert, wow, that's gay.  I remember back in 7, you didn't need ndiscrap
[19:45] <rjonesx> so, cairo is failing and it is preventing me from opening almost all apps - any recomendations?
[19:45] <ObsidianX> it says its in use, i have alsa-utils off, i have mpd off, and i can't figure out whats using it
[19:45] <jackdaw> @Obsidianx can't you use rmmod --force?
[19:45] <obf213> hey guys when i click on my clock for some reason in 8.04, it freezing my toolbars, and i cant alt-f2 and other things how do i kill and restart gnome
[19:46] <ChaosTheory^> Is it possible to get numbered links in links2?
[19:46] <v0lksman> sploby: did you JUST install the package?
[19:46] <ChaosTheory^> As you can in Lynx or eLinks?
[19:46] <mut80r> obf213: ctrl + alt + backspace
[19:46] <dassouki_> my soundcard does not work no more after upgrading
[19:46] <ObsidianX> jackdaw: "Resource temporarily unavailable"
[19:46] <jackdaw> @obf213 to restart gnome either log out or yeah ctrl-alt-backspace (which is horribly annoying if you do it by accident)
[19:46] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> shutdown firefox
[19:46] <dumnut_> graingert: ty
[19:46] <obf213> mut80r ithat doesnt work, when i sign back in, i have no toolbars
[19:46] <Assid> hrmm
[19:46] <ObsidianX> LeGreffi3R: this is a server box :\
[19:46] <Assid> jackdaw: why am i restarting grub?
[19:47] <Assid> you mean gnome right?
[19:47] <jackdaw> @Assid i mean gnome yeah
[19:47] <Assid> yeah i restarting the machine itself.. didnt help
[19:47] <v0lksman> sploby: try following the directions in the first point here: http://albertomilone.com/envyfaq.html#A
[19:47] <jackdaw> @Assid sorry i was talking to someone else about grub
[19:47] <obf213> for some reason i need the dreeded restart to fix this. which is suppose to not be necesary, but if i lok out and back in, i have no tool pars show up at all, neither does alt -f2 etc
[19:47] <jackdaw> @Obf213 are you logged in as a user? i had a problem like that when i was booting through "safe mode"
[19:47] <ramakrar_> so like, whats the impace of upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04
[19:47] <ramakrar_> ?
[19:47] <jackdaw> @obf213 safe mode seemed to mangle gnome
[19:47] <sploby> v0lksman: gimme a sec to to read, thanks ^_^
[19:47] <mut80r> !upgrade | ramakrar_
[19:47] <ubotu> ramakrar_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:47] <jburd> ramakrar_ Wait for a few days.  Too many upgrades are broken.
[19:48] <jackdaw> @ramakrar_ newer kernel... a whole host of slightly newer packages to get your mits on
[19:48] <obf213> jackdaw: im in rgeular mode
[19:48] <obf213> just logged in as user
[19:48] <CyberCod> oh damn... I'm in the repo holding pattern
[19:48] <jackdaw> @obf213, but does gnome run from start or did you have to run startx?
[19:48] <amirman84> rjonesx: have you enabled third party, proposed, and backport, software sources?
[19:48] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, i now get lots of "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0" and "Buffer I/O error on device fd0 logical block 0" and then "SQUASHFS error: unable to read inod/cache/whatever/". I think I've been bitten by a known bug.
[19:48] <obf213> runs from the start
[19:48] <neon> help can't access e-sata, hd gets recognized once i plug it, but no files show once i click on it
[19:48] <giggsey> How do I pause a file copying?
[19:48] <jackdaw> @obf213 sorry then matey, it's totally beyond me. i'm sure there's someone smart out here who can help
[19:48] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> a server with a local soud card?
[19:48] <ramakrar_> i know the process, but whats the real-world scenarion. user experience after upgrading?
[19:48] <van> how to edit romfs.rootfs
[19:48] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> weird
[19:49] <joonas_> hey
[19:49] <jackdaw> @van vim?
[19:49] <jackdaw> @van also probably quite carefully
[19:49] <Andre_Gondim> who decides wich aplications will come by default in ubuntu?
[19:49] <bhsx> does anyone know of FreeNX packages for hardy?  i'm having a hell of a time finding soem that'll work, and setting up freenx by hand sucks
[19:49] <giggsey> The file operations window shows me a red X (I presume stop), but how do I pause it?
[19:49] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, suposedly this is still around: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-421733.html
[19:49] <jackdaw> @giggsey not sure you can actually
[19:49] <mut80r> giggsey: I don't think you can
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, at what speed did you burn the cd..  All my dells needed it to be burned very slow
[19:49] <joonas_> i just installed ubuntu
[19:49] <joonas_> :P
[19:49] <mut80r> joonas_: this channel is support. please join #ubuntu-offtopic for discussion
[19:49] <zoommy99> is there a way to get xfi to work on hardy
[19:49] <zoommy99> ?
[19:50] <amirman84> is copying the entire root directory of a wubi install over a regular installation of ubuntu harmful?
[19:50] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, oh, max I think...  whatever that is.
[19:50] <van> i have mounted but cant edit
[19:50] <ObsidianX> LeGreffi3R: i use it as a music server as well as other things
[19:50] <soundray> !freenx | bhsx
[19:50] <jackdaw> @van -> you might need to use sudo
[19:50] <joonas_> i need help with permissions
[19:50] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, shall I reburn?
[19:50] <alcazoid> hello
[19:50] <joonas_> on var folder
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, burn one slow while I find my laptop and try to boot one burned slow
[19:50] <jackdaw> @joonas, shoot what's the problme
[19:50] <joonas_> i installed apache and php5
[19:50] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, ok brb....
[19:50] <joonas_> and it created a www folder
[19:51] <Assid> people shouldnt use @nick .. it doesnt highlight on the opposite end
[19:51] <fiz1> hey, im using a dell laptop and i cant get my screensaver to work
[19:51] <zoommy99> How do I get X-Fi sound to work in hardy, the forums are too bogged down for me to search
[19:51] <joonas_> but i dont have permissions on that folder
[19:51] <Assid> use nick: instead
[19:51] <Assid> anyways
[19:51] <mut80r> Assid: I agree
[19:51] <jackdaw> @joonas_ right so you need to chmod the folder to something where you can read and write it
[19:51] <Assid> jackdaw: not working here.. where am i supposed to be able to see it?
[19:51] <jackdaw> @joonas http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[19:51] <ramakrar_> any difference if I upgrade from alternate CD or from Upgrade Manager?
[19:51] <lunartear> I'm in the middle of setting up an svn repository to allow svn+ssh access with 1 system user for multiple users by using multiple public keys following http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.4/svn.serverconfig.svnserve.html#svn.serverconfig.svnserve.sshauth  but It doesnt appear to explain the general config necessary to get this working.  I've created a repository, created a user with multiple keys, and have local svn access.  could anyone le
[19:51] <lunartear> nd a hand for configuring further to allow the multiple user access through this system user?
[19:51] <nucco> fiz1: what exactly is the issue?
[19:51] <joonas_> thank you very much.
[19:51] <soundray> bhsx: ubotu seems to be silent -- have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX ?
[19:51] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> do a "sudo lsof /dev/snd* /dev/dsp"
[19:52] <jackdaw> @joonas_ i find it helps me if i read about the whole thing more than just getting an answer to a single problem
[19:52] <nucco> ramakrar_: the alternate cd obviously has fewer packages, so it will remove a lot of stuff from your system
[19:52] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> do a "sudo lsof /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp"
[19:52] <mut80r> !yourself
[19:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:52] <fiz1> nucco, i set the screensaver to turn on after being idle for a minute, but it doesnt go on, im using hardy btw
[19:52] <mut80r> ubotu is not silent.
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is not silent. - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <jackdaw> ubotu saving the day?
[19:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saving the day? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:52] <zoommy99> does anyone know how to get xfi to work on hardy
[19:52] <jackdaw> ubotu ubotu
[19:52] <C|-|R15> does anyone know if ubuntu will detect straight off a internet modem connected via USB cable?
[19:52] <alcazoid> goddamn
[19:52] <soundray> mut80r: it failed to respond to my earlier !freenx
[19:52] <nucco> fiz1: try a longer delay period and see what happens, still using gutsy, so I can't say
[19:53] <alcazoid> why can't i write anthing in here
[19:53] <soundray> mut80r: never mind
[19:53] <mut80r> soundray: ah. sorry
[19:53] <fiz1> nucco, i had it at 10 minutes before but it wasnt going then either
[19:53] <sploby> v0lksman: look when i try to install the drive via terminal by tipping: sudo envy -t
[19:53] <nucco> fiz1: also, are you by chance playing a video?
[19:53] <ricree> C|-|R15: probably depends on the specific device.  I've had bad luck with USB internet devices, but your milage may vary
[19:53] <fiz1> nucco, no, i have pidgin open but thats it
[19:53] <m3ltd0wn123> How can I uninstall proftpd
[19:53] <pjoul> !overload
[19:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overload - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:53] <nucco> fiz1: does the monitor go off instead?
[19:53] <coldboot|work> What's with us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[19:53] <sploby> v0lksman: show this erro: EnvyNG ERROR: Your Operating System does not seem to be supported by Envy
[19:53] <coldboot|work> It's slow as hell.
[19:53] <DBautell> !slow
[19:53] <ubotu> The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[19:53] <CyberCod> !tvout
[19:53] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[19:54] <elektronik123456> how turn of x server ?
[19:54] <Sake> is there any difference between ubuntu and debian as far as package management goes?
[19:54] <Moncky> m3ltd0wn123: have you tried apt-get remove
[19:54] <fiz1> nucco, no it doesnt do anything, just stays on
[19:54] <v0lksman_away> sploby: you still have EnvyNG installed...it will only work in Hardy....remove that package first
[19:54] <elektronik123456> how turn off x server ?
[19:54] <nucco> Sake: very little if any.
[19:54] <sdfliuayw47g> here is a list of mirrors: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[19:54] <DBautell> elektronik123456, /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[19:54] <_Rambaldi_> elektronik123456, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[19:54] <Dark-Fx> DBautell: you're telling me, my mirror is pushing out at 100% capacity :-P
[19:54] <soundray> elektronik123456: you want to boot into command line only? 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[19:54] <[T]-Rex> is there a command to check what version of python i have?
[19:54] <Sake> nucco: so what's the advantage of ubuntu over debian as far as server versions go?
[19:54] <jburd> [T]-Rex: python -V
[19:54] <[T]-Rex> ok
[19:54] <nucco> Sake: support for newer hardware.
[19:55] <DBautell> Dark-Fx, yup, and that's what torrents are for
[19:55] <un2him> anybody have success with virtualbox usb support in hardy?
[19:55] <nucco> Sake: and possibly support from Canonical. for some it matters
[19:55] <CyberCod> so I'm hearing lots of people are having trouble with proprietary vid drivers.... I have nVidia 6200.... is this driver broken?
[19:55] <_Rambaldi_> i never got usb to work,but shared folders works un2him
[19:55] <mut80r> CyberCod: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new      or use the Restricted Drivers manager
[19:55] <mehal88> i am currently running a beta 8.04, i have downloaded and burnt the cd for the final release, but how do i upgrade?
[19:56] <CyberCod> thanx
[19:56] <DBautell> Dark-Fx, I asked the sources dialog to find the best server yesterday, and it told me "no appropriate servers found"
[19:56] <nucco> fiz1: select a specific screensaver. come to think of it, I'm using 7.10_amd64 and I don't recall ever seeing the screen saver... unless I forgot what blank screen looks like :p
[19:56] <LeGreffi3R> ObsidianX> ???
[19:56] <un2him> _Rambaldi_: yes, that's been my experience, too.
[19:56] <_Rambaldi_> mehal88, update manager should update to final
[19:56] <van> how to change   rw     permisions to romfs.rootfs  ?   example pls.
[19:56] <fiz1> nucco, i tried using a few different ones, including blank screen
[19:56] <zoommy99> X-Fi sound drivers on hardy anyone?
[19:56] <cory_> i got a question about firefox can anybody help me?
[19:56] <mut80r> van: sudo chmod 777 romfs.rootfs
[19:56] <ToM-x> cory_ ?
[19:56] <_Rambaldi_> well whats the question
[19:56] <nucco> van: you mean change ownership to romfs.rootfs?
[19:57] <van> thx
[19:57] <jamiejackson> i'd like to get the version of evolution that's in hardy, but i can't upgrade to hardy itself yet. is there a way i can accomplish this in a nice aptitude-y sorta way?
[19:57] <v0lksman_away> cory_: just ask man...very busy in here... ;)
[19:57] <DShepherd> jamiejackson, nah
[19:57] <mut80r> !ask | cory_
[19:57] <ubotu> cory_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:57] <nucco> fiz1: can't say what the problem is, moreso that I'm not running hardy yet... sorry
[19:57] <v0lksman_away> jamiejackson: if your lucky it may be in backports...
[19:57] <instantsoup> phew alright, my windows is not lost. Now i just need to find a way to add it to the bootlist
[19:57] <mehal88> i didnt want to use update manager because the servers are under heavy load, is there a way i can upgrade from disk?
[19:57] <fiz1> nucco, alright, no worries, take it easy
[19:57] <mut80r> instantsoup:   sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:58] <balle_> i can't play videos on youtube or any other streaming site for that matter, and i have java enabled, is this a regular problem when upgrading to hardy? and how do i solve it?
[19:58] <IanBeyer> ugh, what's the deal with the installer hanging at 40% of "scanning mirrors" in the "configuring apt" phase?
[19:58] <soundray> instantsoup: you need to add a boot section for it in /boot/grub/menu.lst. There is a sample starting at line 13
[19:58] <nucco> jamiejackson: that probably requires you to upgrade to the latest version of GNOME... doubt if that's possible.
[19:58] <bhsx> soundray: thanks for the link, yeah, i've checked all those out, but they're either not compatible with hardy, or are non-responding links/repositories
[19:58] <mut80r> balle_: install flash-player
[19:58] <jharkn> ﻿mut80r: should use gksudo for graphical apps
[19:58] <Daliuso> Hello. I've gotten my wireless adapter to work in Ubuntu 8.04 but it won't accept my passkey to connect to the network. My router is running WPA2 Personal. It keeps asking for a new passkey when I enter the correct one... any ideas?
[19:58] <jamiejackson> what's the backports sources line for gutsy (<-- hardy)
[19:58] <cory_> when i start up firefox and go to a page like yahoo when i search some thing a security thing pops up and i click continue it shuts down
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, I can confirm that Dell C640 did boot the livecd of Hardy (Burned SLow)
[19:58] <mut80r> jharkn: my bad. never knew there was a gksudo, I always use sudo regardless.
[19:58] <soundray> bhsx: too bad. Seveas is a FreeNX guru...
[19:59] <jason__> hello i installed google earth but i can't get it to open in ubuntu 8.4
[19:59] <ToM-x> cory_ Have you tried turning off the warning on preferences ?
[19:59] <van> no, to able to  change config inside
[19:59] <elektronik123> i must install nvidia tools and i must have text mode without x server and mount  home directory
[19:59] <instantsoup> soundray , mut80r yeah thanks, i read about that too,
[19:59] <balle_> doing...
[19:59] <jharkn> ﻿mut80r: yeah sudo is fine usually, but gksudo is a little safer
[19:59] <cory_> how do u do that
[19:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[19:59] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[19:59] <gajan> gksudo!?
[19:59] <rjonesx> i get errors in cairo whenever I try to update anything
[20:00] <rjonesx> or run almost anything
[20:00] <mut80r> Jack_Sparrow: ta
[20:00] <joonas_> i still have a problem
[20:00] <sachael> anyone know a nice gtk program for designing logic circuits?
[20:00] <ChemiKhazi> hi, I was wondering if theres a way to install ubuntu using a thumbdrive starting from windows
[20:00] <Darknezz> hey im trying to install push to talk on ventrilo (on wine) in terminal when i type make to compile it it give me this error. (here is a screenshot) http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5676/screenshotdarknezzpwnddhk7.png
[20:00] <joonas_> i try to change permissions
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !slow > rjonesx
[20:00] <rjonesx> I think it might be because I am not using th erestricted nvidia drivers
[20:00] <ToM-x> cory_ Edit/Preferences/Security/Warning Messages
[20:00] <nucco> sachael: check gnomefiles.org
[20:00] <jason__> hello i installed google earth but i can't get it to open in ubuntu 8.4 any reasons why this is happening?
[20:00] <joonas_> but it wont let me coz i dont have permission to do it:D
[20:00] <ChemiKhazi> I've found instructions on doing it from linux but not from windows
[20:00] <jharkn> mut80r: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[20:00] <elektronik123> how mount home directory ?
[20:00] <Kevin___> ä
[20:00] <Darre1> anyone have the Broadcom bcm4306 working in Hardy Heron??? ... Please HELP!
[20:00] <un2him> _Rambaldi_: FYI, I just read on the virtualbox website that usb support is not available in the OSE version, which is what is in the repos.  GUess I'll have to wait until there is a Hardy version available for download from the virtualbox site
[20:00] <nucco> jason_: run it from the terminal and say what error it prints out
[20:01] <jason__> nucco
[20:01] <elektronik123> mount home ?
[20:01] <Itaku> is there a hardy change log?
[20:01] <nucco> Darre1: you probably need the firmware
[20:01] <jason__> 1 sec nucco
[20:01] <rjonesx> Jack_Sparrow: I dont understand !slow? Basically, I think I need to run the restricted Nvidia Drivers, but I dont know how to from the command line.
[20:01] <v0lksman_away> un2him: the gutsy version works fine in hardy
[20:01] <jason__> Reading state information... Done
[20:01] <jason__> E: Couldn't find package googleearth
[20:01] <jason__> ops
[20:01] <leonardo_> darre1: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[20:01] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, ok, I have 12 minutes left... :(
[20:01] <nucco> Darre1: I hear its supported in current kernels, but you still need firmware
[20:01] <Darre1> is all I have to do is install b43-fwcutter?
[20:01] <_Rambaldi_> there was a tweak to get usb working un2him, it can find the device but it does not pop up in windows
[20:01] <un2him> v0lksman_away: thanks, that's what I was wondering, but I was unsure about trying it!
[20:01] <btse> Jack_Sparrow, ok, I have 12 minutes left... :(
[20:01] <Itaku> jason__: sudo apt-get install googleearth-package
[20:01] <Flash-xD> Darknezz, try sudo apt-get install gcc-multilib
[20:01] <btse> oops
[20:02] <leonardo_> yes. worked for me
[20:02] <dny> when i run update manager, i get updates that need to be installed, but nothing about upgrading :/
[20:02] <nucco> Itaku: he has it installed, it is crashing when he launches it
[20:02] <fdkrew> as
[20:02] <un2him> _Rambaldi_: did you see the post from v0lksman, that the version for gutsy works fine?
[20:02] <gajan> elektronik123 u get an option to mount home when u install the OS
[20:02] <nucco> Itaku: I was referring to jason_
[20:02] <IanBeyer> gah, 4th try, and apt is still hanging at 40%
[20:02] <v0lksman> un2him: I have it running....although I've yet to have time to play with the USB stuff but have been told it will work too with a tweak...check their wiki for more on that
[20:02] <Jack_Sparrow> rjonesx, I was just pointing out that the repos/servers are being hammered and anything trying to access them will be slow or even time out
[20:02] <jason__> just a sec itaku and nucco
[20:02] <IanBeyer> this worked just fine on an identical machine 3 days ago
[20:02] <_Rambaldi_> yep, that works un2him
[20:02] <Darknezz> Flash-xD: i will try it
[20:02] <un2him> v0lksman: cool.  i'm off to download it...
[20:03] <elektronik123> gajan i want mount home catalog in text mode
[20:03] <lunartear> anyone available to help configure for svn+ssh with multiple public key access through 1 system user?
[20:03] <Wario> Hey,
[20:03] <DBautell> hmm... ///usr/share/gnome/help/blackjack/el/blackjack.xml:402: parser error : Entity 'Βοήθεια' not defined
[20:03] <nucco> IanBeyer: what worked?
[20:03] <Wario> how do i get the wireless config button back?
[20:03] <joonas_> anyone here who is not busy?
[20:03] <IanBeyer> nucco: the install.
[20:03] <elektronik123> gajan i want to acces all my files
[20:03] <jason__> itaku and nucco when i run from terminal i get this Google Earth has caught signal 4.
[20:03] <balle_> !theme
[20:03] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:03] <Wario> its the top one, i acdently deleted it
[20:03] <DBautell> joonas_, did you 'sudo chmod'?
[20:03] <gajan> you want to repair ur os?
[20:03] <IanBeyer> it gets through the base install, and then hangs at "configuring apt"
[20:03]  * jochmenDS just watching the chat
[20:03] <joonas_> i did chmod folder
[20:03] <rjonesx> Jack_Sparrow: would that cause update manager to crash before opening? or a error in Cairo? I think I already have the restricted drivers, etc, but I can't even open the Driver Manager to check the box.
[20:03] <Darre1> anyone with a Presario 2100?? wireless??
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> btse, I have found hp's and Dells fail quite often unless using a cd bruned slow.  Even if a cd checks ot, you can convert it to iso and reburn the same disk slow, and it will work.. dont ask me why
[20:04] <Darknezz> Flash-xD: no it dident work
[20:04] <DBautell> joonas_, throw a sudo in front of it
[20:04] <elektronik123> gajan i must install tools in text mode system is ok
[20:04] <balle_> did not work installing the flash viewer, any other thoughts?
[20:04] <nucco> jason__: not sure I know what that error means...
[20:04] <cory_> all it has is 3 boxes that say use SSL 2.0, use SSL 3.0, use TLS 1.0
[20:04] <joonas_> mkay but how can i change the root permissions?
[20:04] <gajan> i cant get u......sorry
[20:04] <joonas_> it wont let me go further than desktop with cd
[20:04] <Baby_Shambl3s> can someone give me a link to setting up fstab to mount a formated hd(ext3) on boot?
[20:04] <DarkWingDuck> Quick Q; what key needs to be pressed to boot from CD in Ubuntu?
[20:04] <nucco> IanBeyer: you mean ubuntu hardy install?
[20:04] <Assid> stupid thing wont work :(
[20:04] <IanBeyer> "Configuring apt" and it's hung at 40% of "scanning mirror"
[20:04] <IanBeyer> nucco: 7.1
[20:05] <CyberCod> DarkWingDuck: depends on your system
[20:05] <elektronik123> i only want to mount filesystem
[20:05] <mut80r> !slow | IanBeyer
[20:05] <ubotu> IanBeyer: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:05] <jason__> itaku any ideas?
[20:05] <nucco> IanBeyer: you installing from livecd?
[20:05]  * Assid gets irritated and gets ready to kick someone
[20:05] <IanBeyer> yes
[20:05] <balle_> i can't play videos on youtube or any other streaming site for that matter, and i have java enabled, is this a regular problem when upgrading to hardy? and how do i solve it? and i have just installed the flash viewer from the add/remove
[20:05] <elektronik123> gajan i only want to mount filesystem
[20:05] <CyberCod> DarkWingDuck: sometimes it is F2, sometimes F12, sometimes you have to set it up in the bios
[20:05] <Darknezz> hey im trying to install push to talk on ventrilo (on wine) in terminal when i type make to compile it it give me this error. (here is a screenshot) http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5676/screenshotdarknezzpwnddhk7.png
[20:05] <bintrue|work> Anyone else experience back and foward buttons ceasing to function in firefox3.0b5
[20:05] <macpo3> bah, the installer for 8.04 amd64 desktop is too big for my blank CDs, is bthere any way I can pull the files from the iso and use them from maybe a usb hdd?
[20:05] <jason__> itaku any ideas? Stacktrace from glibc:
[20:05] <jason__>   ./googleearth-bin [0x804f3c7]
[20:05] <jason__>   ./googleearth-bin [0x804f8ed]
[20:05] <jason__>   [0xb7f86420]
[20:05] <jason__>   ./libbase.so(_ZN5earth17ScopedPerfSetting6createERK7QStringbb+0x64) [0xb70d50f2]
[20:05] <dbristow> balle_: youtube uses flash, not java
[20:05] <FloodBot2> jason__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:05] <jason__>   ./libbase.so(_ZN5earth17ScopedPerfSettingC2ERK7QStringbb+0x45) [0xb70d518b]
[20:05] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: is the hDD plugged internal? what is the /dev node?
[20:05] <Baby_Shambl3s> balle: im sure youtube and other videos are flsahs and by what you said you havent got that installed
[20:05] <IanBeyer> mut80r: I'm just trying to install base, not add packages from the repo
[20:06] <Jack_Sparrow> rjonesx, If you got a partial update eaarlier it could be causing issues..   it should not effect cairo or your restricted drivers unless your apt-get update failed to get all the repo lists and then you installed cairo or the drivers
[20:06] <balle_> dbristow: well, i just installed the flash player, that was what i said right?
[20:06] <MrObvious> !ipv6
[20:06] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[20:06] <soundray> balle_: have you restarted firefox since?
[20:06] <gajan> darwingduck f12 is for boot from network
[20:06] <nucco> IanBeyer: install without mirrors, then enable the mirrors afterwards
[20:06] <dbristow> balle_: ya, I just wanted to let you know that java isn't part of the problem
[20:06] <mut80r> IanBeyer: what nucco just said
[20:06] <IanBeyer> nucco: never asked me.
[20:06] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: /dev/sdb1 being manually mounted to /media/sdb1 but i need to setup fstab to do it for me, you know how?
[20:06] <dbristow> you could check about:plugins
[20:06] <balle_> soundray: don't use FF but will restart opera
[20:06]  * elektronik123   please i only want how mount file system in text mode
[20:06] <balle_> dbristow: thx man
[20:06] <IanBeyer> the installer should at the very least be able to install base without hitting the repos
[20:06] <nucco> IanBeyer: remove the network cable ;)
[20:06] <StevenX> anyone know how I can increase the brightness of my display?
[20:07] <leonardo_> how do i mount iso images on hardy?
[20:07] <Darre1> nucco: i've tried installing via ndiswrapper, and using the "fw-cutter" method to install the drivers in the /lib/firmware directory, but still nothing shows up when I try to connect!
[20:07] <IanBeyer> stevenx: buttons on the front of the display
[20:07] <soundray> !mountiso | leonardo_
[20:07] <DBautell> !iso leonardo_
[20:07] <ubotu> leonardo_: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[20:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iso leonardo_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:07] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: look at the fstab file, then follow the same format. do you know where that file is?
[20:07] <mut80r> StevenX: do you have access to the GUI?
[20:07] <rjonesx> Jack_Sparrow: first off, thanks for your help so far, I really appreciate it. I just used the Update Manager yesterday to update from Gutsy to Hardy - would that have completed successfully if it did not fully download the different updates?
[20:07] <dbristow> leonardo_: this isn't ubuntu specific: mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mnt/point/here
[20:07] <fdkrew> Is anyone having problems with repos taking long time to update?
[20:07] <joonas_> dbautell, i did it with sudo but still the permissions wont change on root
[20:07] <mut80r> !slow | fdkrew
[20:07] <ubotu> fdkrew: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:07] <LordJesus> !slow | fdkrew
[20:07] <leonardo_> thanx!
[20:07] <Baby_Shambl3s> balle: if you are using opera you might need to symlink to your FF plugins folder just like ppl did in gutsy but than im not using opera
[20:07] <StevenX> mut80r, yes
[20:08] <joonas_> still says im not the owner and wont let me change files
[20:08] <mut80r> StevenX: System -> Prererences -> Power management
[20:08] <Darknezz> hey im trying to install push to talk on ventrilo (on wine) in terminal when i type make to compile it it give me this error. (here is a screenshot) http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5676/screenshotdarknezzpwnddhk7.png
[20:08] <IanBeyer> nucco: can't really remove the cable, the machine is several miles from here
[20:08] <Wirta-> after I installed ubuntustudio sound packages to normal ubuntu my sound device stopped working, any ideas?
[20:08] <StevenX> mut80r, I went there. The option is not there.
[20:08] <StevenX> :-(
[20:08] <mut80r> StevenX: laptop I assume ?
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> rjonesx, sudo apt-get update   just to be sure, as hammered as things were yesterday.. anything can happen...
[20:08] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: i know where is is but thats the only ext3 i have my /sda2 in jfs so I doubt those settings will work :(
[20:08] <StevenX> mut80r, yes
[20:08] <fdkrew> Mut80: I have download loaded with iso, im using a new install. just installing some software takes long thats all. Is there any extra repos avalible to add?
[20:09] <nucco> IanBeyer: you're installing via ssh?
[20:09] <DBautell> sorry, joonas_ all I caught was the permissions bit, don't know much about full filesystems (if that's where you're at) as far as permissions go
[20:09] <IanBeyer> nucco: no
[20:09] <mut80r> StevenX: "On Battery Power" tab, Reduce display brightness checkbox.
[20:09] <rjonesx> it fails, every time, because my network card doesn't work either.
[20:09] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: for the ext3 hdd, replace the jfs field with ext3
[20:09] <fdkrew> Mut80: I have download loaded with iso, im using a new install. just installing some software takes long thats all. Is there any extra repos avalible to add?
[20:09] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: paste the jfs disk's line here, I'll give you the correct format to place for your new hdd
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> rjonesx, I dont have any answers other than what I have told you previously
[20:10] <IanBeyer> nucco: remote console
[20:10] <Wirta-> after I installed ubuntustudio sound packages to normal ubuntu my sound device stopped working, any ideas?, pm me if you can help thanks.
[20:10] <mut80r> fdkrew: select a mirror closest to you from Software sources (System -> Administrtation)
[20:10] <amirman84> does anyone know a good way to transfer a wubi install of 8.04 to a full install. there was a program called LVPM that did this for earlier wubi versions but it doesnt work with the one on the 8.04 disc?
[20:10] <noocx> hi
[20:10] <fdkrew> ok ill try that
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Wirta-, /join #Alsa
[20:10] <noocx> I've got a problem setting up logitech mx518 correctly, i would like to set it to 1600dpi with lomoco, but i get the following message: http://pastebin.com/d34ab9430 , my device list: http://pastebin.com/d664df9eb and the other files: http://pastebin.com/d7c5e8a73 (xorg.conf), http://pastebin.com/d2417945 (Xorg.0.log). Have you got an idea what could i do?
[20:10] <joonas_> DBautell, all i need to do is test my php scripts on the server, but it wont let change files in the www folder
[20:10] <gajan> darkenzz its some error in the script itself
[20:10] <nucco> IanBeyer: if you disable the network then you'd be disconnected. hmmm.. you using the alternate CD?
[20:10] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: UUID=aa608a35-f395-4a83-849c-abcf7c84d3ee /               jfs     relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1, well thats it
[20:11] <gajan> something syntax error
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Wirta-, Fixing sound.. download this: http://hg.alsa-project.org/alsa/raw-file/tip/alsa-info.sh  #and run the script as Normal User... with this command: bash ./alsa-info.sh  ... then go to http://en.pastebin.ca/906336 and answer those questions ..  then  /join #Alsa and provide them with your question and a link to the uploaded file.
[20:11] <JediMaster> Hey guys, what's the standard way of enabling SSL on Apache2? All the HOW-TOs refer to a script called apache2-ssl-certificate, which doesn't exist any more
[20:11] <mut80r> Baby_Shambel3s: change   jfs   to   ext3        for an ext3 filesystem
[20:11] <Pelo> mut80r, thanks for the help earlier, didn'T work but I managed to fix it
[20:11] <IanBeyer> nucco: no, the remote console is its own network connection
[20:11] <Stormx2> I've been trying to sort flash out for ages. If another music app is using the soundcard when firefox is started, I can't watch flash videos. They stop after 2 seconds and there's no sound, something I remember back from dapper. I've followed the wiki page on it (under !flash). I've install alsa-oss and set the firefoxrc. I've install libflash-mozplugin. It's all come to naught, and I'm at a loss as what to do next.... Also, once a flash video does
[20:11] <Stormx2>  play (which requires absolutely no other app using the sound card when firefox is started AND when the video plays) I have to restart firefox afterwards to be able to use other sound-producing apps. Help! :)
[20:11] <chazco> Anyone know how to enable /proc/bus/usb from a script? I'm guessing i need to use sed on mountdevsubfs.sh...
[20:11]  * Pelo is the king of copy/paste coding 
[20:11] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: /dev/sdb /media/new_folder ext3 defaults,rw 0 2
[20:11] <mut80r> Pelo: lol
[20:11] <IanBeyer> but I can't go yank the cable
[20:12] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: thanks will try that
[20:12] <IanBeyer> nucco: DRAC4.
[20:12] <cory_> my firefox keeps shuting down what should i do
[20:12] <nucco> IanBeyer: then temporarily remove the default gateway from the network config of the machine if that won't throw you out
[20:12] <noocx> have you got any idea why X reverts to default pointer?
[20:12] <AaronMT> How can I get my wireless broadcom device to accept WPA2-Personal passcode? It doesnt like security specifically WPA-2 for some reason?
[20:12] <_Rambaldi_> is there anyway i can remap my keyboard keys?
[20:12] <Darknezz> gajan: would it have anything to do with permissions?
[20:12]  * NibiruET is away: ....... Be back later folks...bye!
[20:12] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: I'm assuming that your new hdd is at /dev/sdb
[20:12] <MountainX> how do I add an HP OfficeJet All-In-One printer to Hardy using ethernet (not usb) connectivity? Thanks.
[20:12] <DBautell> joonas_, you might try adding -R or --recursive to your chmod, which will set permissions for everything below your target
[20:12] <IanBeyer> nucco: is there a way to configure the default network interface on install to do something other than DHCP?
[20:12] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: replace /dev/sdb with /dev/sdb1 or whatever your partition is :)
[20:12] <_Rambaldi_> cory_, does this happen on youtube and other flash websites?
[20:12] <chazco> Yep... i need to use sed to find this line: "#mkdir -p /dev/bus/usb/.usbfs" and uncomment it and the next 3 lines...
[20:12] <dassouki_> my soundcard stopped working after upgrade, although it is detected with alsa and lsmod
[20:13] <cal_> got error copying files... Errno: 5, tryed burning two different cd's. any ideas?
[20:13] <nucco> IanBeyer: are you isntalling from an alternate CD?
[20:13] <cory_> ya youtube,yahoo
[20:13] <dbristow> Baby_Shambl3s: try fdisk -l
[20:13] <IanBeyer> not sure what you mean by an "alternate CD"
[20:13] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: yes it is i formatted a while ago and how do i find UID again?
[20:13] <nucco> IanBeyer: if you select expert mode, you usually control every step
[20:13] <doxid> whats the library called for "File roller" archive manager in the Ubuntu Gnome enviroment?
[20:13] <joonas_> il try that
[20:13] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: you don't need the UID.
[20:13] <MountainX> Rambalid- use the System>Preferences>Keyboard tool to remap your keys.
[20:13] <doxid> for .rar
[20:13] <_Rambaldi_> its a known issue, and no fix yet i use epiphany browser cory_
[20:13] <lukasz> how mount home directory ?
[20:13] <mehal88> since the servers are swamped, is there another way to upgrade from the beta?
[20:13] <IanBeyer> nucco: I just had the option of "install to local hard disk"
[20:13] <gajan> hey i cant install a .deb package which is in my hard disk only....it says couldnt find package........can anybody help?
[20:13] <nucco> doxid: usually, you never need it, if you encounter a file that it can handle, you can just double-click it
[20:13] <DBautell> !sound dassouki_, don't know if this will help, but
[20:13] <dbristow> Baby_Shambl3s: it will show if linux sees your new drive and what partitions it has
[20:13] <Pelo> IanBeyer,  the alternate install cd is an instalation cd for ubuntu with a text based installer and no live deskop, it is easer on resources during instal and less fussy about hardware
[20:14] <Darre1> please help with Broadcom bcm4306mp!
[20:14] <joonas_> DBautell, So i would write sudo chmod 777   -R filename?
[20:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: o_0...??? you sure about that?
[20:14] <IanBeyer> this must be it, since it's running a text based install
[20:14] <sachael> anyone else unable to open ubuntuforums.org?
[20:14] <Pelo> mehal88, get the torrent for the alternate cd or the dvd , upgrade from that
[20:14] <doxid> nucco, "could not open package.rar... archive type not supported."
[20:14] <AaronMT> How can I get my wireless broadcom device to accept WPA2-Personal passcode? It doesnt like security specifically WPA-2 for some reason?
[20:14] <nucco> IanBeyer: at the boot prompt, is there not a place for you to type something like "install" or "expert" ?
[20:14] <fdkrew> I have bcm4306 rev 3
[20:14] <DBautell> !sound dassouki_
[20:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sound dassouki_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:14] <doxid> nucco, i need the .rar library :)
[20:14] <MountainX> sachael - I cannot reach ubuntu forums either
[20:14] <Baby_Shambl3s> dbristow: ok than will do so but why does uid show on ftab if it is not needed?
[20:14] <DBautell> durn
[20:14] <mero> sachael, works for me but veeeery slow :(
[20:14] <Juuso> doxid: sudo apt-get install rar
[20:14] <Pelo> mehal88, errrrr if you hve an uptodate beta you donT' need to upgrade
[20:14] <PrivateVoid> Under 8.04 does anyone know which driver to use for a Radeon mobility 7500?
[20:14] <DBautell> !sound |dassouki_
[20:14] <ubotu> dassouki_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:14] <nucco> doxid: sudo apt-get install unrar
[20:14] <doxid> Juuso, thx
[20:14] <Darre1> fdkrew is your working?
[20:14] <fdkrew> yea
[20:14] <macpo3> if I mount an 8.04 amd64 desktop install ISO image and copy the contents to a USB hdd, can I then use eg 7.10 lilo or grub or something to make the usb drive bootable as if it was a CD buirned from the ISO? obviously assuming the hardware supports booting from a USB drive
[20:14] <the_darkside_986> Has anyone else had the problem of severe system stuttering that causes Totem to skip badly?
[20:14] <amirman84> sachael: yeah, it takes a lot of refreshing but eventually you can get a page to load, it's been a pain all morning
[20:14] <fdkrew> you need to feitch the firmware
[20:14] <Darre1> 8.04?
[20:14] <gajan> hey i cant install a .deb package which is in my hard disk only....it says couldnt find package........can anybody help?
[20:14] <fdkrew> yea
[20:14] <_Rambaldi_> MountainX, there is no remapping just layout change
[20:14] <doxid> nucco, juuso.. which one?   unrar or rar? :P
[20:14] <dbristow> Baby_Shambl3s: I'm not sure about the uuid
[20:15] <fdkrew> privte msg me
[20:15] <sachael> amirman84, because of the new ubuntu release?
[20:15] <m3ltd0wn123> When I try to connect to my proftpd server, even from local machine, it says "connection closed by host"
[20:15] <nucco> Baby_Shambl3s: yes, uuid, or /dev/* will do.
[20:15] <IanBeyer> i'm running the server install disk
[20:15] <PowerTeam> Hi
[20:15] <Baby_Shambl3s> doxid: downoad rar archive from repo and you'll be able to extract rar files
[20:15] <cory_> how do i install it if i cant get on the internet
[20:15] <the_darkside_986> The live CD works just fine and is very fast. But when I install hardy to disk, everything is painfully sluggish.
[20:15] <nucco> doxid: unrar enables you to open, rar enables you to create
[20:15] <PrivateVoid> fdkrew - you talking about the Radeon?
[20:15] <stefg> the_darkside_986: killall pulseaudio , then try again
[20:15] <amirman84> sachael: i guess so, that's all i can think of
[20:15] <Pelo> gajan, how were you trying to instal it ?
[20:15] <zoommy99> How do I get X-Fi sound drivers to work on hardy Heron
[20:15] <gajan> hi power team
[20:15] <Baby_Shambl3s> nucco: thanx will do so?
[20:15] <fdkrew> boardcom bcm4306 rev V
[20:15] <dassouki_> ubotu, DBautell
[20:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbautell - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:15] <dassouki_> ubotu, DBautell  thanks
[20:15] <lacitrouillemasq> hi
[20:15] <fdkrew> rev 3*
[20:15] <gajan> pelo sudo apt-get install
[20:15] <PowerTeam> What does the process trackerd do?
[20:15] <MountainX> Rambaldi - look under layout options. You can swap capslock and ctrl and make a lot of other changes.
[20:16]  * Pelo hates the week after a release , all hardware questions 
[20:16] <mut80r> dassouki_ ubotu is a bot.
[20:16] <PowerTeam> it eats up a lot of resources
[20:16] <mintsoup> I'm trying to use multiple displays, but when I click detect displays in the screen resolution menu, nothing happens.. does anybody know how to get multiple displays working?
[20:16] <dassouki_> mut80r, oops !!
[20:16] <LordJesus> PowerTeam, it indexes files
[20:16]  * IanBeyer reboots. again.
[20:16]  * PrivateVoid understands pelo
[20:16] <Pelo> gagan  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[20:16] <gajan> pelo i was even in the same dir that contain the pkg
[20:16] <zoommy99> does anyone hear have soundblaster x-fi?
[20:16] <_Rambaldi_> not quiet that, but thanks anyway MountainX
[20:16] <rjonesx> how does one restart ifconfig?
[20:16] <gajan> pelo, i was even in the same dir that contain the pkg
[20:16] <PowerTeam> LordJesus: is this a scheduled thing or is it constant?
[20:16] <dassouki_> well anyways, my sound was working this morning on 7.10 and it doesn't on 8.04, that seems strange
[20:16] <cal_> got error copying files... Errno: 5, tryed burning two different cd's. log file says SQUASHFS Error: Unable to read...any ideas?
[20:16] <mehal88> pelo: with the alternate cd image, can i run from the image or do i have to burn it?
[20:16] <MountainX> Rambaldi - what are you trying to do?
[20:16] <Pelo> gagan  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[20:16] <PrivateVoid> gah... where is the firmware folder again?
[20:16] <DBautell> joonas_, you would 'chmod -R' a directory, and it will change the permissions for all files and dirs underneath it.. sometimes you can change a file but not the directory it's in
[20:16] <LordJesus> PowerTeam, I'm afraid I don't know
[20:16] <gajan> pelo, sudo apt-get install
[20:17] <lukasz> i downloaded file ster.run to home catalog and this file must be run without x server
[20:17] <Pelo> gajan, apt-get is for repos
[20:17] <_Rambaldi_> MountainX, change my home button to backspace
[20:17] <nucco> mehal88: you still gotta burn it
[20:17] <lukasz> how it do ?
[20:17] <gajan> sud i try aptitude?
[20:17] <gajan> pelo,sud i try aptitude?
[20:17] <MountainX> Rambaldi - use xmodmap
[20:17] <_Rambaldi_> gajan, what are you trying  to install
[20:17] <the_darkside_986> ah, so trackerd is the culprit? is there a way to disable it completely. I have the checkbox unchecked and the CPU slowness set to 99 in the GUI.
[20:17] <gajan> its yahoo msngr
[20:17] <lukasz> !theme
[20:17] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:17] <Pelo> lukasz, crtl_alt_f2 to f6 ,  for console,  alt crtl f7 to come back
[20:17] <IcemanV9> gajan: you can use aptitude or apt-get; either way it works
[20:17] <Pelo> gagan  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
[20:18] <_Rambaldi_> that would do thanks MountainX
[20:18] <Pelo> IcemanV9, he's trying to install a downloaded package
[20:18] <lobazo> please help me i can't mount a normal cd
[20:18] <gajan> iceman, its telling pkg not found
[20:18] <Yodude> hello, am i wrong or did hardy remove the samba configuration GUI ?
[20:18] <PowerTeam> trackerd uses like 50% of my cpu
[20:18] <mehal88> pelo: i dont think i have a uptodate beta, i've been using xp all week and moved back to linux today because i remembered that the final should be out
[20:18] <balle_> flash works buffalx
[20:18] <nucco> gajan: please use pidgin instead
[20:18] <mut80r> PowerTeam: it's indexing your system
[20:18] <lobazo> please help me i can't mount a normal cd
[20:19] <thomasc599> hi
[20:19] <zoommy99> so no one here has xfi working on 8.04?
[20:19] <IcemanV9> gajan: ah. Pelo just told me it is package; follow Pelo's instruction ( sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb )
[20:19] <IanBeyer> nucco, how does one get into "expert" mode?
[20:19] <gajan> nucco what is pidgin i dont know...i am a new user
[20:19] <lukasz> this package is .run file
[20:19] <lacitrouillemasq> fdkrew: hi, you have a trouble with boardcom bcm4306 rev 3 ?
[20:19] <nucco> PowerTeam: that's following a massive transfer of files to your HDD. after a while, it kind of idles away
[20:19] <cory_> how do i install epiphany
[20:19] <n-iCe> I can't download the new ubuntu with the update manager, where can I get it??
[20:19] <nucco> gajan: pidgin is a messenger for linux, just like yahoo messenger
[20:19] <mcknin> Question: Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[20:19] <mut80r> gajan: Pidgin is a messenger that supports several services. I'm using it right now for MSN and IRC.
[20:19] <[T]-Rex> whats the command to check my glib version ?
[20:19] <lukasz> it must be install without x server
[20:19] <jharkn> !slow | ﻿mcknin
[20:19] <ubotu> ﻿mcknin: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:19] <Pelo> mehal88, last update I got for rc was on monday, but whatever,  dl the alt-cd or the dvd in torrent from and just pop it in the drive,  while ubuntu is on, it wil ask if yiou want to upgrade
[20:19] <Pelo> !torrent | mehal88
[20:19] <ubotu> mehal88: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[20:19] <mcknin> fantastic
[20:19] <lobazo> please help me i can't mount a normal cd
[20:19] <the_darkside_986> gajan: pidgin is better but if you need Yahoo's camera protocol, there's a free open source Linux yahoo client that can do that. i have to look up the name though (i helped someone else find it before)
[20:19] <Stiny> Can someone help me with my sound? There's no sound at all.
[20:20] <Pelo> damit
[20:20] <nucco> IanBeyer: at the boot prompt for the cd, press the help button and see the options they give you. usually expert mode is listed. but that's if you're using the alternate CD
[20:20] <PowerTeam> nucco: ok, i was begging to worry. hehe
[20:20] <Pelo> !torrents
[20:20] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[20:20] <mut80r> !audio | Stiny
[20:20] <ubotu> Stiny: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:20] <Pelo> Stiny, start with this
[20:20] <PowerTeam> nucco: begining
[20:20] <mcknin> !torrents
[20:20] <thomasc599> i need help with my screen res in 8.04, it's set to 800x600, edited the xorg.conf, that dun work and did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it dose not come to the screen res section, plz help
[20:20] <PowerTeam> me an me typos
[20:20] <lacitrouillemasq> any trick with boardcom bcm4306 rev 3 ?
[20:20] <nucco> PowerTeam: its actually indexing the data. if you've got a dual core cpu then you don't need to worry. your system is still very much responsive.
[20:20] <MountainX> ﻿how do I add an HP OfficeJet All-In-One printer to Hardy using ethernet (not usb) connectivity? Thanks.
[20:20] <mero> !Player
[20:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[20:20] <noocx> anyone using evdev with usb mouse?
[20:21] <Stiny> Thank you.
[20:21] <Pelo> mcknin, there is a timer on the bot,  it won'T restate the same trigger rigth away
[20:21] <lobazo> please help me i can't mount a normal cd
[20:21] <thomasc599> i need help with my screen res in 8.04, it's set to 800x600, edited the xorg.conf, that dun work and did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it dose not come to the screen res section, plz help
[20:21] <IanBeyer> uhh... OK, that's weird. I selected "expert" and it went to the memory test
[20:21] <_Rambaldi_> !editors
[20:21] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[20:21] <nucco> MountainX: depends on the protocol... is it IPP? you select the appropriate option in the printer configuration interface
[20:21] <Yodude> ﻿am i wrong or did hardy remove the samba configuration GUI ?
[20:21] <Pelo> lobazo, what do you mean by normal cd ?
[20:21] <emorris> !
[20:21] <lunartear> could someone give me a hint on ssh key verification?  I've used ssh-keygen to generate an ssh-rsa key pair. I copied the public key to another machine at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  but im getting a "Host key verification failed" error
[20:21] <cory_> how do i install epiphany
[20:21] <Pelo> cory_, sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[20:21] <lobazo> according mtab /dev/scd0 is already mounted in /media/cdrom0
[20:21] <MrObvious> !ipv6
[20:21] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[20:21] <IcemanV9> MountainX: system > admin > printing
[20:21] <StevenX> mut80r, interesting. all i had to do was hold the alt button. but i don't have the brightness option in the normal dialog.
[20:21] <thomasc599> i need help with my screen res in 8.04, it's set to 800x600, edited the xorg.conf, that dun work and did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and it dose not come to the screen res section, plz help
[20:21] <nucco> thomasc599: what graphic card are you using?
[20:22] <lobazo> that's says me
[20:22] <thomasc599> wait a min
[20:22] <MountainX> nucco, IcemanV9 - thanks. Where can I find a help document that explains this in more details?
[20:22] <PowerTeam> nucco: intel dual core 2    2Ghz should be enough for ubuntu
[20:22] <lobazo> according mtab /dev/scd0 is already mounted in /media/cdrom0
[20:22] <Pelo> lobazo, and it does not appear on your desktop ?
[20:22] <zoommy99> SoundBlaster X-Fi Soundcard working on hardy?
[20:22] <thomasc599> how do i find that out?
[20:22] <lukasz> who can help ma at prv ?
[20:22] <Joelito> does anyone have downloaded audacious via apt in hardy?
[20:22] <lukasz> me
[20:22] <nucco> IanBeyer: quite weird indeed. you try the memtest option? ;)
[20:22] <lobazo> no
[20:22] <lobazo> it appeared
[20:22] <lesjohn> is there anywhere to get the md5 for the powerpc port of hardy? it's not on the main list
[20:22] <MountainX> I tried Ssytem>admin>printing but I didn't know what to put in the options
[20:22] <IcemanV9> MountainX: wiki.ubuntu.com
[20:22] <Pelo> lobazo, right click the desktop and sort icons
[20:22] <JediMaster> How do you enable SSL in Apache 2 in Hardy? All the HOW-TOs refer to apache2-ssl-certificate script that no longer comes with the apache2 package (and any other I can find)
[20:22] <IanBeyer> nucco: I just hit F6 for boot options and typed in "expert"
[20:23] <mohbana> hey guys ... i basically downlaoded the ubuntu hardy dvd and i managed to install it succesfully, but strangely enough when i go to soft sources only the cd rom is available
[20:23] <thomasc599> nucco > how do i find that out?
[20:23] <nucco> PowerTeam: he he, like I always say, all modern processors are fast enough so that you don't even need to look at the hertz!
[20:23] <Baby_Shambl3s> whats the command to update fstab
[20:23] <lobazo> i'm in xubuntu
[20:23] <IcemanV9> MountainX: if it is connected via ethernet, then it should show up and you need to finish some options
[20:23] <Baby_Shambl3s> whats the command to update fstab?
[20:23] <mut80r> lobazo: /join #xubuntu
[20:23] <nucco> thomasc599: no straightforward way that I know of... when you do dpkg-reconfigure, what driver does it select by default?
[20:23] <SimplePlan> how long does it take to install ubuntu?
[20:23] <Arkaic> Baby_Shambl3s: just edit it with a text editor
[20:23] <elektronik123> i want install it http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_96.43.05.html
[20:23] <mut80r> SimplePlan: anywhere from 10 to 40 minutes usually.
[20:23] <Pelo> SimplePlan,  depends on your systemm   I can be done in 30 min
[20:23] <tushyd> SimplePlan: took me 30-45 mins?
[20:23] <lobazo> ok thaks
[20:24] <_Rambaldi_> what do you mean by update fstab Baby_Shambl3s
[20:24] <cory_> it said it couldent find the package
[20:24] <JediMaster> SimplePlan: 20-30 min or so?
[20:24] <MountainX> IcemanV9 - nothing is showing up for my printer. Also, wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't list anything for HPLIP. What should I search for?
[20:24] <Yodude> SimplePlan: on average 30min-1hour
[20:24] <nucco> MountainX: System > Help. the inbuilt help.
[20:24] <IanBeyer> SimplePlan: depends on whether you're going from cds or repository, and how bad the repos are gettingf hammered :)
[20:24] <Arky44> SimplePlan: it may take a long time, especially now that everyone is downloading the Hardy Heron release
[20:24] <lunartear> could someone give me a hint on ssh key verification?  I've used ssh-keygen to generate an ssh-rsa key pair. I copied the public key to another machine at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  but im getting a "Host key verification failed" error
[20:24] <mohbana> did anyone get that?
[20:24] <Invert314> has anyone else here noticed that the Ubuntu forums is really slow today?  Firefox has been timing out for the past hour at all ubuntu forum URLs
[20:24] <IcemanV9> MountainX: make sure LAN is enabled
[20:24] <tushyd> mut80r, 10 mins?
[20:24] <SimplePlan> not to download ... but to intsall
[20:24] <Arky44> SimplePlan: from start to finish, it won't take longer than an hour
[20:24] <mut80r> !slow | Invert314
[20:24] <ubotu> Invert314: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:24]  * Pelo has to set a whole afternoon aside to install windows XP , and that is without the software , but it does include the updates
[20:24] <StevenX> mut80r, https://webshare.uchicago.edu/users/sleiva/Public/Screenshot-Power%20Management%20Preferences.png?uniq=4gnj22
[20:24] <DBautell> three way merge (experimental) option for menu.lst apparantly fails horribly
[20:24] <mut80r> tushyd: from the alternate CD
[20:25] <IanBeyer> gah, even "expert" is forcing me to use DHCP
[20:25] <thomasc599> nucco > when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it dose not get to anything about the screen or monter at all
[20:25] <tushyd> mut80r, ah
[20:25] <nibsa1242b> Pelo: why install XP?
[20:25] <zoommy99> Can someone tell me how to get X-Fi working on Hardy?
[20:25] <PowerTeam> nucco: i am acutaly very pleased with ubuntu, i got all me hardware working even me windows mobil phone...  I belive ubuntu is very good distro. and very clean. i realy loved that about it
[20:25] <nucco> thomasc599: when you do the dpkg thingy, what's the first thing that shows up, what option is highlighted by default?
[20:25] <cory_> Pelo: it said it couldent find the package
[20:25] <SkinnYPupp> SimplePlan: took me a little over 30 mins on a p4 2.3 ghz
[20:25] <mohbana> hey guys ... i basically downlaoded the ubuntu hardy dvd and i managed to install it succesfully, but strangely enough when i go to soft sources only the cd rom is available
[20:25] <Pelo> nibsa1242b, I don,t realy do it anymore but I paid for it , I kind of feel it should be there if I need it , mind you I have it "contained" on a 10 gig partition
[20:25] <SimplePlan> does UBUNTU have WINZIP?
[20:25] <Invert314> mut80r, for me its the forums that are slow, not the download mirrors!
[20:25] <nucco> PowerTeam: we do too, now go tell your neighbours too :)
[20:25] <IanBeyer> SimplePlan: hahaha
[20:26] <DBautell> ...
[20:26] <mut80r> Invert314: they're on the same server I think.
[20:26] <Pelo> cory_, menu > applications > add/remove ,  search : epiphany
[20:26] <SimplePlan> IanBeyer im askin seriously
[20:26] <mut80r> ﻿StevenX: that is what I have mine set to. I have to increase the brightness when booting
[20:26] <thomasc599> nucco > a thing about a video frame buffer
[20:26] <tushyd> SimplePlan, no. Doesn't need it
[20:26] <the_darkside_986> Is it possible to safely prevent trackerd from running at all? i don't want to damage my Ubuntu install by messing with scripts and deleting system files.
[20:26] <jackault> What do you use to put music on an iPod ?
[20:26] <Invert314> ty mut80r
[20:26] <SkinnYPupp> SimplePlan: No but it will unzip anything
[20:26] <nibsa1242b> Pelo: you know it'll overwrite your mbr when you install it right?
[20:26] <nucco> SimplePlan: you want to open a zip file? just double-click it
[20:26] <SimplePlan> kkk
[20:26] <_Rambaldi_> not winzip but archive manager and command to unzip SimplePlan
[20:26] <IanBeyer> SimplePlan: think about it.
[20:26] <Moncky> SimplePlan: no the there is a zip command for unxipping .xip files
[20:26] <IanBeyer> WIN zip
[20:26] <Yodude> why is the samba configurator not present in hardy ?! please someone answer !
[20:26] <vlad_> erm, anyone know of a bug that causes gdm to basically keep restarting (but not the X server -- just gdm, as far as I can tell)?
[20:26] <Arky44> mohbana: have you opened up Synaptic Package Manager and expanded the software repositories?
[20:26] <Skii1> Quick question - i just tried to install ubuntu and was unable to, when starting up ubuntu gave me a error and said it saved it in a log, where would this be saved? c:/ubuntu..?
[20:26] <tushyd> jackault, try amarok
[20:26] <zoommy99> XFI sound Anyone?
[20:26] <nucco> thomasc599: hmmm... it doesn't ask you to select a driver?
[20:26] <SimplePlan> IanBeyer sorry im not a geek like u
[20:26] <the_darkside_986> There are iPod management tools under Sound/Video
[20:26] <StevenX> mut80r, but you see how I don't have a GUI option for increasing brightness?
[20:27] <vlad_> it's just blinking in the login screen then going back to a pale orange screen, then repeat
[20:27] <Pelo> SimplePlan, ubjntu uses file roller,  , it can support zip format ,   sudo apt-get install  unzip
[20:27] <IanBeyer> SimplePlan:  not sure why you'd want winzip, even on windows
[20:27] <thomasc599> nucco > no
[20:27] <DANimal> I need some help with installing Ubuntu please.
[20:27] <mut80r> StevenX: neither do I. but with that set by default it kept turning mine down.
[20:27] <mohbana> Arky44, yes ... it is missing, how can i put it on? i installed via the dvd
[20:27] <nibsa1242b> Pelo: I too have paid for it. I run it from QEMU when I have to.
[20:27] <mut80r> StevenX: that's why I suggested disabling it.
[20:27] <koomber> hi all.  New to Ubuntu, just wondering if anyone has tried installing on Dell Vostro 200?
[20:27] <Pelo> nibsa1242b, not a problem , I've dealt with this issue before and it's on a seperate hdd anyway
[20:27] <IanBeyer> it's cashware and there are perfectly good FOSS options out there like 7-zip
[20:27] <craig_> has anyone tried to install vmserver on the latest version of unbuntu yet?
[20:27] <tushyd> DANimal, just ask a question and if anyone knows how to help you they will
[20:27] <dassouki_> DBautell, ya that doesn't help i went through the whole thing. my sound card was working this morning on 7.10, i lost it after ht upgrade
[20:27] <SimplePlan> ok thank you guys for all your help im gonna go install ubuntu now
[20:27] <nucco> thomasc599: do "lspci" in a terminal and paste the output somewhere, then give me the link, lemme see if I can make something out of it
[20:27] <SyaZ> I've installed Ubuntu 7.10 on an Acer laptop, but I can't find wireless network configuration anywhere, care to point me to the right direction?
[20:27] <Pelo> nibsa1242b, I run my xp partiton throught vmaware server
[20:27] <mut80r> !network | SyaZ
[20:27] <ubotu> SyaZ: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:27] <thomasc599> nucco > i edited the xorg.conf to put this in "Modes       "1280x800"
[20:27] <kevin4381> fresh install of 8.04; GeForce 7600 GT:  in the Hardware Drivers dialog box it says "nvidia_new" is enabled, but "Not in use".  additionally.  "desktop effects could not be enabled" - how do I get the proprietary drivers to be "in use" and enable desktop effects?
[20:27] <DANimal> Does anyone know how to fix the "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" hang, I get hung at that screen and I can't get past it
[20:28] <DANimal> With Hardy
[20:28]  * elektronik123 i can`t install it http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_x86_96.43.05.html
[20:28] <SyaZ> Thanks mut80r.
[20:28] <Arky44> mohbana: with Synaptic going, go to Settings > Repositories
[20:28] <IcemanV9> thomasc599: can you pastebin your xorg.conf? tell us the nbr when you're done and we'll see if we can help ya further.
[20:28] <nibsa1242b> Pelo: how does that work out? I've always wanted to do something like that.
[20:28] <nucco> thomasc599: probably using the wrong drivers, we gotta identify which one you should be using first
[20:28] <mut80r> SyaZ: no problem
[20:28] <IcemanV9> !pastebin | thomasc599
[20:28] <ubotu> thomasc599: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:28] <Pelo> DANimal, look up the error msg in the forum wwwl.ubuntuforums.org
[20:28] <DBautell> sorry, dassouki_ it was a shot in the dark from this end... someone said something about setting sound to ALSA instead of autodetect, but I'm really not in a position to help beyond that
[20:28] <alteregoa> hardy is still not productive
[20:28] <mohbana> Arky44, i've tried that
[20:28] <elektronik123> i have this file and how install it ?
[20:29] <lunartear> could someone give me a hint on ssh key verification?  I've used ssh-keygen to generate an ssh-rsa key pair. I copied the public key to another machine at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys  but im getting a "Host key verification failed" error
[20:29] <nucco> alteregoa: please explain
[20:29] <CaptainMorgan> in what way alteregoa
[20:29] <Arky44> mohbana: did you check all the boxes under "ubuntu software"?
[20:29] <kevin4381> someone please help: ﻿I have a fresh install of 8.04; GeForce 7600 GT:  in the Hardware Drivers dialog box it says "nvidia_new" is enabled, but "Not in use".  additionally.  "desktop effects could not be enabled" - how do I get the proprietary drivers to be "in use" and enable desktop effects?
[20:29] <Moncky> elektronik123: what file?
[20:29] <_Rambaldi_> DANimal, try alt f2 and login, and run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:29] <joonas_> anybody installed apache here?
[20:29] <alteregoa> manualy configure xorg.conf crap and such stuff
[20:29] <mut80r> kevin4381:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[20:29] <koomber> Has anyone elsehad trouble with getting Hardy to install on Dell Vostro 200?  It keeps rebooting my system
[20:29] <Dusk_> hi there..i couldn't configure OpenDNS on ubuntu 8.04. i followed this (https://www.opendns.com/start/ubuntu.php) tutorial but it does nothing..can someone tell me how can i use opendns??
[20:29] <mohbana> Arky44, i want to install from the dvd, and yes all of them are selected.  the issue is, dvd is not present
[20:29] <IanBeyer> GAH. this "expert mode" isn't working
[20:29] <mohbana> Arky44, only cd is
[20:29] <thomasc599> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64417/
[20:29] <IanBeyer> still being forced to use DHCP
[20:29] <elektronik123> Moncky ster.run but it must be run without x server
[20:29] <nucco> kevin4381: just a guess, but disable it, reboot, re-enable, and follow instructions
[20:30] <CaptainMorgan> alteregoa, thanks pretty standard across many distros
[20:30] <craig_> pelo - how did you install vmserver, i'm having trouble with 'unable to build vmmon module'
[20:30] <cory_> pelo: it says its not avilible for my platform
[20:30] <nucco> IanBeyer: guess nobody tested expertmode via remote shell...
[20:30] <thomasc599> both xorg and lspci
[20:30] <IanBeyer> nucco: I wouldn't know, I'm not using remote shell
[20:30] <Arky44> mohbana: ok. click on the "Third-Party Software" tab and click the "Add CD-ROM..." button
[20:30] <_Rambaldi_> craig_, i had that problem, got the fix yesterday
[20:30] <nucco> IanBeyer: I meant {whatever means you're using}
[20:30] <Arky44> mohbana: it should scan the DVD
[20:30] <kevin4381> mut80r: "package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[20:30] <_Rambaldi_> brb craig_
[20:31] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: did you modify /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/init.d/network restart?
[20:31] <os2mac> lemme guess the forums are hosted on the same servers as the repositories?
[20:31] <Monk728> encountering an error while trying to install on a fresh system.  After selecting install I am getting the initramfs prompt.  I have even attempted to install using alternate CD, and now that is giving me a "No kernel modules were found... This is probably due to a mismatch of the kernel used by this version and the kernel in the one online" and it will not let me continue past that.  Please help
[20:31] <jfrey> I've been running hardy for a couple of weeks now and today it's been missing the application/power bar from both the top and bottom of the screen. The only change I made before this happened was to evolution which I removed. And help or pointer and how t even phase this so I can find an answer on google?
[20:31] <IanBeyer> nucco: that would be the console. I would imagine that;s been, erm, tested extensively.
[20:31] <Pelo> craig_, I instaled in 7.10 from the repos,  right now it doesn,t work on hardy ,  there are no hardypacakges for it, but do a search on digg there was an article last week on installling the lastest vmware server on hardy
[20:31] <dassouki_> DBautell, any idea how to do that ?
[20:31] <kevin4381> nucco:  - I will try that in a minute if this doesn't work
[20:31] <andresmh> what is the config file where ubuntu stores the default windows manager?
[20:31] <jburd> And like rubbing salt in my wound the LiveCD doesn't even show any graphics on my screen.  Blank.  :-)
[20:31] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: no..i only followed the tutorial
[20:31] <mut80r> kevin4381: no idea. that's what I had to enter to get it working on my PC.
[20:31] <Pelo> jfrey, alt-f2 : gnome-panel
[20:31] <andresmh> i mean, the config file where the default windows manager is set?
[20:31] <Moncky> elektronik123: not sure sorry
[20:32] <stroyan> lunartear:  You need to have tight permissions on .ssh/* files or they may not be used.  make them "chmod 600" so only your account can access them.  You could also check /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the side you are connecting to.
[20:32] <nixnoob> hey i just upgraded to hardy and i have no sound any ideaas?
[20:32] <mut80r> !audio | nixnoob
[20:32] <thomasc599> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64417/
[20:32] <Pelo> later folks
[20:32] <mut80r> !audio | nixnoob
[20:32] <ubotu> nixnoob: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:32] <jfrey> no alt-f2 but I did get to terminal through nautalus
[20:32] <lunartear> stroyan ok I'll check those two
[20:32] <mut80r> there we go
[20:32] <kevin4381> ok; I'm gonna reboot :)
[20:32] <nucco> andresmh: why would you need that config file?
[20:32] <LiraNuna> servers. are. hammered.
[20:32] <Dusk_> !opendns
[20:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opendns - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:32] <koomber> I don't want to keep asking the same question over and over, but hopefully somone can help with my Vostro blues :)
[20:33] <LiraNuna> any list of repositories so I can try to find a closer one?
[20:33] <nixnoob> mut80r, thats annoying and not helpful and besides hardy uses pulseaudio not alsa
[20:33] <stroyan> lunartear:  ssh-copy-id is handy for copying public keys to the authorized hosts list on other systems.
[20:33] <Monk728> encountering an error while trying to install on a fresh system.  After selecting install I am getting the initramfs prompt.  I have even attempted to install using alternate CD, and now that is giving me a "No kernel modules were found... This is probably due to a mismatch of the kernel used by this version and the kernel in the one online" and it will not let me continue past that.  Please help, this is driving me nuts
[20:33] <rjonesx> are there alternate servers I coudl use for apt-get update? ie, other countries (im in the UK)
[20:33] <MountainX> Can anybody give me a URL for a howto on setting up a HP OfficeJet All In One (printer, scanner, etc) via ethernet connection with Hardy? I have HPLIP installed via Synaptic, but I'm confused about the next steps. Thanks.
[20:33] <bamed> yep
[20:33] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: okay. i have done it with my laptop. modify /etc/resolv.conf, then restart /etc/init.d/network restart. then go back to opendns.org to see if it works.
[20:33] <elektronik123> why in owners drivers max resolution is 800 pix ?
[20:33] <ToM-x> Whats up with the default ones rjones?
[20:33] <andresmh> nucco: because i screw up something and I want to edit it manually using the CLI
[20:33] <hb> what does it mean when you use the cd to install hardy but after the initial restart I get an error at the grub screen saying partition does not exist.
[20:33] <DBautell> sorry, dassouki_ I just switched computers and lost track of myself... was typing when the "reboot?" dialog came up and I hit space... Where were we?
[20:33] <thomasc599> nucco > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64417/
[20:33] <nucco> andresmh: what did you screw up?
[20:34] <zoommy99> Does anyone in this channel have a creative x-fi card?
[20:34] <nucco> thomasc599: been trying to open that since, my darn connection is giving me 550Bytes per second :(
[20:34] <mut80r> nixnoob: it was a suggestion I am aware of the different sound system but you could try and see if ALSA works instead.
[20:34] <hb> zoommy99, no but I've got a hammer you can borrow
[20:34] <dassouki_> DBautell, any idea how to set the sound from all to a specific driver, i've doen that before on another computer u get a blue screen and choose a driver, i just don't recall the command
[20:34] <koomber> has anyone tried installing on DELL Vostro 200?
[20:34] <ToM-x> What is wrong with the default rjonesx
[20:34] <thomasc599> nucco > kk
[20:34] <vlad__> hi ppl
[20:34] <nixnoob> mut80r, it was orginally set to alsa and didnt work, neither does pulseaudio
[20:34] <mero> !Player
[20:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[20:34] <Starnestommy> ToM-x: a lot of US and UK servers are overloaded because of everyone upgrading
[20:34] <andresmh> well, i mostly want to do it remotely, without having to open an X terminal
[20:34] <mut80r> nixnoob: my bad.
[20:35] <nucco> koomber: what exactly are you interested in finding out
[20:35] <tushyd> zoommy99, from a quick google-ing it seems that it's not supported yet
[20:35] <andresmh> do you know the location of the file or not? :)
[20:35] <os2mac> not the same server but definitely the same network. segment.
[20:35] <vlad__> im having a problem im getting a blank window after try to put better visual effects on config what can i do? i got ati x1550
[20:35] <andresmh> also, does anyone know what is the path of the config file where autologin is turned off and on?
[20:35] <DBautell> dassouki_, well, that reboot put me in the new version, so I'll have a look... FWIW, my login sound happened
[20:35] <koomber> nucco> been trying to install it, but it just reboots me back to bios
[20:35] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: how can i restart the ethernet connection?
[20:35] <kevin4381> after disabling and re-enabling the "nvidia_new" driver, then rebooting - the driver is still "enabled" but "not in use"
[20:35] <IcemanV9> thomasc599: add this line "DefaultDepth         24" in Section "Screen" and restart the X (ctrl-alt-backspace)
[20:35] <nucco> andresmh: /etc/gdm/
[20:35] <andresmh> thanks nucco
[20:35] <mut80r> Dusk_: the easiest way is to just replug the cable.
[20:35] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[20:35] <kevin4381> I am using an nvidia GeForce 7600 GT video card. how can I find out WHY this driver is not being used?
[20:35] <toresn> how can i turn off bold text in aterm? i tried putting 'Aterm*boldMode: false' in .Xdefaults, but that didn't seem to work
[20:36] <joonas_> does anyone know what is the roop password of ubuntu 8.04?
[20:36] <nucco> koomber: at what point does it reboot.
[20:36] <|Dreams|> i am stuck cant install any addons on 32bit firefox installed on amd64 helllp keeps giving me unexpected initialisation error
[20:36] <mut80r> joonas_: there is no root password.
[20:36] <Starnestommy> jbrendel_: there is no root password.  Use sudo
[20:36] <Starnestommy> er...
[20:36] <nucco> andresmh: or you can use "System > Administration > Login Window" to do that in a GUI
[20:36] <Starnestommy> joonas_: use sudo
[20:36] <smallfoot-> Blender runs in fullscreen (even when I tell it to run in window mode) if I use Compiz. Without Compiz, Blender behaves properly though.
[20:36] <dabbill> when i deselect a window my border disappears, any way to fix that?
[20:36] <da_> hi. i have a question. is it possible to define 2 mode keys in xmodmap
[20:36] <MountainX> IcemanV9 - sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:36] <Monk728> encountering an error while trying to install on a fresh system.  After selecting install I am getting the initramfs prompt.  I have even attempted to install using alternate CD, and now that is giving me a "No kernel modules were found... This is probably due to a mismatch of the kernel used by this version and the kernel in the one online" and it will not let me continue past that.  Please help
[20:36] <joonas_> mut80r, but how can i change the var  folder permissions?
[20:36] <Stiny> Why is Firefox 3 beta is installed on Hardy, instead of a stable version?
[20:36] <Stiny> That's not really a problem, but it's weird.
[20:37] <nucco> Stiny: use epiphany-browser
[20:37] <c0ffee> i have some "up" commands in my /etc/network/interfaces, but they are not execute when the interface is brought up during boot. is this a known problem or are there somewhere logs of the boot messages?
[20:37] <joonas_> it wont let me says  permission denied
[20:37] <Arky44> Stiny: it's still relatively stable... :)
[20:37] <mut80r> joonas_: sudo chmod 777 /var/ -R            but I wouldn't reccomend it
[20:37] <tushyd> mucco, what's so good about epiphany?
[20:37] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: i use opendns on my laptop for a while, then i put it on my router for all other boxes. it works just fine.
[20:37] <PowerTeam> I am wondering to buy meself a new laptop what is it best use ati or nvidia with linux i have only experience with ati.
[20:37] <Arky44> Stiny: I use galeon :)
[20:37] <TeslaTony> Every time I try playing something in MPlayer, I get "AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused." Then the file plays fine. Any idea what's going on?
[20:37] <kevin4381> can somebody tell me how to get some kind of report so I can ask a more specific question?
[20:37] <IcemanV9> MountainX: thks
[20:37] <koomber> nucco>  I've managed to install from the windows installer.  When booting into linuk normally I get the loading screen then reboot.
[20:37] <joonas_> thanks;)
[20:37] <kevin4381> can't enable desktop effects, proprietary driver not in use, why not? how fix? please help
[20:37] <Me> can anyone tell me how to get my bluetooth mouse working with ubuntu?
[20:38] <nucco> tushyd: epiphany is a gnome-endorsed browser.
[20:38] <ToM-x> PowerTeam: Nvidia
[20:38] <ompaul> !bluetooth | me
[20:38] <ubotu> me: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[20:38] <max__> kevin 4381
[20:38] <nucco> Stiny: galeon merged with epiphany long ago... its probably unmaintained now
[20:38] <dabbill> when i deselect a window my border disappears, any way to fix that?
[20:38] <Stiny> I like Firefox because fo Adblock and Filterset G, but I never heard of galeon before.
[20:38] <_Rambaldi_> craig_, did you get a fix for the vmon problem?
[20:38] <kevin4381> max__:  ?
[20:38] <joonas_> okey i tryed that but i still dont have the permissions
[20:38] <ompaul> !test
[20:38] <ubotu> Failed.
[20:38] <Arky44> Stiny: nucco is right, galeon isn't maintained
[20:38] <nucco> Stiny: there's an adblock for epiphany too
[20:39] <Monk728> encountering an error while trying to install on a fresh system.  After selecting install I am getting the initramfs prompt.  I have even attempted to install using alternate CD, and now that is giving me a "No kernel modules were found... This is probably due to a mismatch of the kernel used by this version and the kernel in the one online" and it will not let me continue past that.  Please help, this is driving me nuts
[20:39] <vlad__> how can i fix white screen problem when i try to enable desktop effects i got ati
[20:39] <max__> hello
[20:39] <MountainX> I need a link to an HP printer howto for noobs. Ubuntu forums are not working for me today. Can't find an up to date doc in the wiki either.
[20:39] <PowerTeam> ToM-x: so nvidia has the best drivers in your opinion?
[20:39] <kevin4381> hello .. can you help? you said my nick
[20:39] <joonas_> sudo: /var/run/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700
[20:39] <epp> are the hardy repos relly, sometimes they time out.
[20:39] <nibsa1242b> MountainX: give me a min and I can probably help you
[20:39] <tushyd> kevin4381: did you try running nvidia-xconfig?
[20:39] <joonas_> what does this mean?
[20:39] <max__> your graphics card installed
[20:39] <nibsa1242b> MountainX: what printer do you have?
[20:39] <ToM-x> PowerTeam, No doubt. I have ATI and it fails.
[20:39] <max__> working
[20:39] <koomber> nucco > when booting with the APCI (I think) disabled option I get "ata.001 revalidation failed error no = -5"
[20:40] <kevin4381> tushyd:  - where do I find that?
[20:40] <mut80r> joonas_: this is why I said I wouldn't reccomend it
[20:40] <lunartear> stroyan: do i need to uncomment this line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config i take it?  #AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:40] <ompaul> !noob | MountainX by the way you are not explaining what you want to achieve with a HP printer
[20:40] <max__> just a minute
[20:40] <ubotu> MountainX by the way you are not explaining what you want to achieve with a HP printer: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[20:40] <tushyd> kevin4381, you can run it in terminal
[20:40] <cvasilak> is it me or the ubuntuforums.org is very very sloy?
[20:40] <Stiny> So, epiphany is galeon? I'm confused. :D
[20:40] <n000b> .
[20:40] <OiPenguin_> Is apt-get update
[20:40] <OiPenguin_>  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade still applicable commands?
[20:40] <kevin4381> should I install it first?
[20:40] <mut80r> !slow | cvasilak
[20:40] <ubotu> cvasilak: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:40] <nucco> thomasc599: somethings wrong with your xorg.conf
[20:40] <nixnoob> repos are uber slow last few days
[20:40] <cvasilak> sloy-> slow
[20:40] <umass1993> \join #ubuntu-bugs
[20:40] <_Rambaldi_> its not you cvasilak
[20:40] <lukasz> !theme
[20:40] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[20:40] <lukasz> !themes
[20:40] <IanBeyer> nixnoob: gee, wonder why
[20:40] <epp> are the hardy repos really busy? i keep getting timeouts.
[20:40] <tushyd> kevin4381, if the nvidia drivers are installed, it should be already there
[20:40] <nixnoob> IanBeyer, yea i know
[20:41] <Starnestommy> epp: all the repos are
[20:41] <nucco> Stiny: epiphany is the new galeon :) so to speak
[20:41] <Arky44> !slow | epp
[20:41] <ubotu> epp: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:41] <nibsa1242b> epp: yes they are. try a local mirror
[20:41] <cvasilak> _Rambaldi_, ok thanks i see
[20:41] <Sarthor^^> Hi, is there any problem for apt-get right now???
[20:41] <ToM-x> Hardy repo's are fine with me (UK)
[20:41] <kevin4381> nvidia-xconfig
[20:41] <kevin4381> The program 'nvidia-xconfig' can be found in the following packages:
[20:41] <MountainX> nucco - thx, but ﻿System > Help doesn't give the help I need.
[20:41] <epp> nibsa1242b, thx
[20:41] <kevin4381> whats the cmd to start the app?
[20:41] <Stiny> I think I'll give it a try.
[20:41]  * IanBeyer wonders why !slow isn't just set as the topic
[20:41] <Stiny> Can't lose.
[20:41] <nucco> koomber: that should signify issues with your sata controller... but I'm not well versed in those areas
[20:41] <IcemanV9> MountainX: check this out --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[20:41] <mut80r> IanBeyer: lol
[20:41] <nucco> MountainX: what protocol does the printer say it supports? look in the product's manual.
[20:41] <PowerTeam> thx for the help, il log now..... May ubuntu live for for ever
[20:42] <kevin4381> E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[20:42] <mluser-work> Is there a raid guide available for ubuntu?
[20:42] <mut80r> !raid | mluser-work
[20:42] <ubotu> mluser-work: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[20:42] <Mustard_Is_Blue> ok, I have a problem.
[20:42] <mluser-work> mut80r: thanks
[20:42] <Stiny> And is there a really big difference between epiphany and epiphany gecko version?
[20:42] <Monk728> anyone else having initramfs problems when installing?  I tried the steps on the forums, but no success
[20:42] <nibsa1242b> epp: I just finished my upgrade, the big problem was the initial waiting for the update manager. It looked locked up, but in about 15min it was finally doing something. Then it only took me ~1.5hrs to dl what I needed and another ~1hr for the rest of the process.
[20:42] <max__> hımm
[20:42] <Skapare> anyone know when the DVD isos for 8.04 will hit the mirrors?  I noticed rsync temp files slowly arriving at one of them (then the files disappear like thet are being hiddne)
[20:42]  * IanBeyer wonders how long "scanning the mirror" is gonna take
[20:42] <max__> your install nvidia drivers
[20:43] <gamalern> anyone know the easist way to backup anorak before I do a complet clean install?
[20:43] <epp> nibsa1242b, i noticed that too. once it starts its fast.
[20:43] <tushyd> kevin4831, i haven't had an nvidia card for a while, but if you haven't already, you can manually install the newest drivers from www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[20:43] <mut80r> !torrents | Skapare
[20:43] <ubotu> Skapare: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[20:43] <neon> on an ASUS laptop does the webcam (bisoncam) works under ubuntu?
[20:43] <nucco> Stiny: just use the default... epiphany is based on gecko atm, but won't be for too long
[20:43] <MountainX> ubotu - I have an HP L7680 all in one (printer, scanner, etc.). It is connected via wired ethernet. I have it working with my laptop under Gutsy, but I went through a lot of steps I don't remember in order to get it working. On my desktop, I am running Hardy. I have installed HPLIP via Synaptic. What do I do next to get the printer working? Thanks.
[20:43] <Stiny> Thanks nucco.
[20:43] <Skapare> mut80r: need rsync, not torrent
[20:43] <thomasc599> ok, thet just crased ubuntu, luckly using windows i backed it ub, any other suggestions?
[20:43] <robinmholt> Problem with autofs.  Some of our company nis maps have 'grpid' in them.  This option used to be ignored (in 7.10) but is not ignored in 8.04.
[20:43] <Starnestommy> Stiny: I think some newer versions use webkit
[20:43] <nucco> Skapare: been looking for a way to do the rsync thng myself
[20:43] <shane2peru> can anyone tell me why my harddrive (I moved it to internal) will let me write for a little bit then it converts to a read only filesystem?
[20:43] <ptn107> Skapare: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[20:43] <Ultraputz> after upgrading gutsy to 8, my LUKS password is not recognized.
[20:43] <max__> kevin 4381
[20:43] <Mustard_Is_Blue> When I boot up my computer I get this error everytime.
[20:43] <Mustard_Is_Blue> ﻿[13.187548] ACPI: EC: acpi_ec_wait timeout, status=0, expect_event=1
[20:43] <Mustard_Is_Blue> ﻿[13.187600] ACPI: EC: read timeout, command=128
[20:43] <max__> your install nvidia drivers
[20:43] <IcemanV9> MountainX: fyi, ubotu is a bot
[20:43] <lukasz> i have nvidia geforce4 card i want use desktop effects but owner`s driver had low resolution
[20:43] <PhoenixP3K> Has anyone else noticed the windows border transparency now goes all around the window?
[20:43] <shane2peru> and I can no longer write to it?
[20:43] <Skapare> mut80r: unless someone now has a CLI/text torrent client
[20:44] <nibsa1242b> MountainX: sorry, I don't know too much about setting up network printers
[20:44] <Sarthor^^> Hi, is there any problem for apt-get right now???
[20:44] <Sarthor^^> Hi, is there any problem for apt-get right now???
[20:44] <Sarthor^^> Hi, is there any problem for apt-get right now???
[20:44] <FloodBot2> Sarthor^^: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <mut80r> Skapare: that would be interesting. my bad
[20:44] <kevin4381> max__:  i'm on a clean insttall
[20:44] <mut80r> !slow | Sarthor^^
[20:44] <ubotu> Sarthor^^: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:44] <Sarthor^^> sorry
[20:44] <Ultraputz> erm. strange. i think i just fixed it.
[20:44]  * lukasz i have nvidia geforce4 card i want use desktop effects but owner`s driver had low resolution
[20:44] <IcemanV9> !slow | Sarthor^^
[20:44] <joonas_> anyone here have installed php under ubuntu?
[20:44] <max__> hımm
[20:44] <PhoenixP3K> Sarthor^^ aside the servers being hammered...
[20:44] <iKar> Can u repair ubuntu iso file
[20:44] <Starnestommy> Skapare: I think rtorrent might be cli
[20:44] <kevin4381> when I had ATI card I couldn't get this working easily either
[20:44] <Arky44> !md5 | IKar
[20:44] <ubotu> IKar: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[20:45] <CaptainMorgan> after attempting to do Places > Connect to Server, using SSH- when the connection is mounted- it's placed on the Desktop as "sftp at on <some name>", right clicking to rename this is not an option--- is it possible to rename connections like this? was in  < 7.10
[20:45] <kevin4381> what brand of card does UBUNTU actually work with?
[20:45] <StevenX> how do i install a .deb package?
[20:45] <shane2peru> does anyone know why my hdd lets me write for a little bit, and then it changes to read only filesystem?
[20:45] <Stiny> Oh by the way, I just LOVE the new version of Ubuntu, because it supports my integrated intel video card and I don't have to configure it. ^^
[20:45] <ompaul> iKar, with bittorrent that is the only way - and the iso file on a hard drive not on a CD/DVD
[20:45] <nucco> StevenX: just double-click it
[20:45] <MountainX> IcemanV9 - lol thanks for info about bot :)
[20:45] <nibsa1242b> kevin4381: intel
[20:45] <PhoenixP3K> StevenX, you should simply have to double click on it
[20:45] <retalin> if i am in a dir and i want to find a specific ip in say 20 files, what command would i use, i know its cat but what would i pass to it ?
[20:45] <IcemanV9> StevenX: sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[20:45] <Lr5> Is the 7.10 -> 8.04 changes list still somewhere?
[20:45] <max__> ok
[20:45] <StevenX> nucco, PhoenixP3K IcemanV9 thanks.
[20:45] <kevin4381> it should work with nvidia. because when I had ATI everybody here was talking about nvidia working
[20:45] <ashbringer> Hello, I'm trying to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, and the python app freezes when it gets to the end of the "Checking package manager" stage
[20:45] <Lr5> I don't seem to be able to find it
[20:45] <Mustard_Is_Blue> If anyone can help me with ACPI errors please pm me.
[20:45] <xFlipx> Anybody know if Intel 965 chipsets have been removed from the blacklist for the HH release?
[20:45] <Arkaic> retalin: grep * <ipaddress>
[20:45] <robinmholt> retalin: grep '192.168.1.1' *
[20:46] <mut80r> xFlipx: working here
[20:46] <kevin4381> now I have nvidia.. and it doesn't work. I'm sure it will work; there's some sort of problem or error .. but how do I find out what is going wrong?
[20:46] <PhoenixP3K> Anyone else has the transparent windows transparency issue?
[20:46] <Wofl_> hey, my apt gets stuck while updating
[20:46] <retalin> Arkaic: robinmholt thanks :)
[20:46] <CaptainMorgan> retalin, do main grep
[20:46] <max__> ati and nvidia working with ubuntu
[20:46] <CaptainMorgan> man
[20:46] <Arky44> ashbringer: it might just be slow, as so many people are downloading it
[20:46] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know why my hdd goes into a read only mode?
[20:46] <Wofl_> still in gutsy
[20:46] <jfrey> Pelo: Thanks. Gnome-panel was removed when I removed parts of evolution, but I reinstalled it and it seems to be working again.
[20:46] <tushyd> kevin4381, it should work with nvidia, gutsy ran on my old lappy with an nvidia 8600
[20:46] <xFlipx> mut80r, did GG work as well?
[20:46] <CaptainMorgan> or what they said
[20:46] <kevin4381> well I need help.
[20:46] <Wofl_> i run sudo apt-get update
[20:46] <shane2peru> !readonly
[20:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about readonly - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:46] <mut80r> xFlipx: no
[20:46] <Arky44> !slow | Wolfl_
[20:46] <ubotu> Wolfl_: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:46] <max__> ok
[20:46] <nibsa1242b> retalin: I think it'd be something like cat (file.name) | grep (IP)
[20:46] <xFlipx> mut80r, that's GREAT news!
[20:46] <kevin4381> it says the proprietayr drivers are 'enabled' but not 'in use'
[20:46] <joonas_> can anyone help me with installing php under ubuntu?
[20:46] <max__> My english a little
[20:46] <ashbringer> Arky44: It isn't getting to a download. Its just hanging up. I let it go for four hours yesterday.
[20:46] <mysterycool> how can I make apache running on the net? i mean people to be able to check out my webs through my ip
[20:46] <shane2peru> !Read-only
[20:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about read-only - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:46] <xFlipx> mut80r, what board do you have?
[20:46] <Wofl_> ok
[20:46] <retalin> nibsa1242b: thanks :)
[20:47] <Starnestommy> mysterycool: you may need to change something in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[20:47] <mut80r> I have no idea but I have an Acer Aspire 5315 with an Intel 965GMA
[20:47] <nibsa1242b> retalin: np
[20:47] <iKar> Iso file on hard drive I download it directly from website but I think it has error
[20:47] <Skapare> ptn107: the list DVDs on the HTTP but their RSYNC doesn't have them
[20:48] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to disable internet access for a guest account?
[20:48] <CaptainMorgan> after attempting to do Places > Connect to Server, using SSH- when the connection is mounted- it's placed on the Desktop as "sftp at on <some name>", right clicking to rename this is not an option--- is it possible to rename connections like this? was in  < 7.10
[20:48] <priman> anyone know where i can find drivers to ubuntu for my hp pavilion dv5095ea laptop?
[20:48] <kevin4381> the place where it says the driver is 'not in use' should have some clues as to why not
[20:48] <kevin4381> but it doesn't
[20:48] <ashbringer> Does anyone know of a bug in the update manager where it hangs indefinitely on the "checking package manager" stage? I saw a bug for the hardy updater, but I think that would have been fixed by now
[20:48] <IcemanV9> mysterycool: you could use dyndns.org to display your website
[20:48] <ubuntuROX> wheres the torrent for the alternate install cd?
[20:48] <max__> private chat with me
[20:48] <Skapare> ptn107: do you know if there is a delay in putting DVDs on mirrors because maybe they haven't transferred yet?
[20:48] <max__> private chat with me
[20:48] <epp> is there a version of skype compiled for hardy?
[20:48] <iKar>  Iso file on hard drive I download it directly from website but I think it has error
[20:48] <mariano> come si installano i plugin adio e video?
[20:49] <iKar> because when I burn it on cd id wont work
[20:49] <nucco> iKar: you can use rsync to fix it, been trying to find out how, nobody seems to know
[20:49] <mut80r> iKar: you need to burn it as an image, not a file
[20:49] <milly1234> I've noticed since going from gutsy to hardy my wireless signal strength has dropped, is there something they did differently I can undo?
[20:49] <mut80r> iKar: and as slowly as possible
[20:49] <flithm> hey everyone... since upgrading to hardy I get all these errors like: "df: `/home/tim/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected" when I run df, and same if I ls my home dir... anyone know what this is about?
[20:49] <gogeta> iKar you can check the md5 to make shure
[20:49] <shane2peru> ok, lets try another question, I just burnt up my cdrom drive on my wifes computer, anyone know how to install ubuntu with no cdrom?
[20:49] <Arky44> iKar: did you burn it to the CD as a CD image, or just burn it directly?
[20:49] <priman> do anyone know where i can find drivers for my hp pavilion dv5095ea laptop?
[20:49] <max__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=envy
[20:49] <nucco> iKar: oh, right-click the image, select write to disc :)
[20:49] <dystopianray> priman: what drivers do you need?
[20:50] <ubuntuROX> does anyone know where the torrent is for the alternate cd?
[20:50] <max__> install envy
[20:50] <mut80r> nucco: that is dependant on his software
[20:50] <iKar> as cd image I know what I was doing and I did at 16x
[20:50] <Skapare> nucco: if you have a bad/corrupt image, rsync can fix it with the right options ... I did this just 2 days ago with a bad copy of a Debian DVD I found
[20:50] <Starnestommy> mut80r: envy is not supported
[20:50] <zoommy99> any have XFI working on hardy?
[20:50] <Starnestommy> er...
[20:50] <lauweijie> hi
[20:50] <craig_> pelo - just want to let you know (as probably many people will ask) that I resolved that vmserver 'unable to build vmmon module' by using a patch 116, previously i was using patch 115
[20:50] <nucco> Skapare: yes, I know that, the problem is *how* to fix it :)
[20:50] <lauweijie> anyone here?
[20:50] <priman> all.. graphics, sound, wifi
[20:50] <Starnestommy> max__: envy is not supported
[20:50] <dystopianray> zoommy99: creative x-fi card?
[20:50] <zoommy99> yes
[20:50] <Arky44> !md5 | iKar
[20:50] <ubotu> iKar: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[20:50] <mut80r> Starnestommy: I seem to recall envyng
[20:50] <MrBill> On my gutsy install I have FIrefox 2 installed, Does anyone know if there's a way for me to configure my google search bar in firefox to search www.google.com/linux instead of just google.com?
[20:50] <shane2peru> anyone know how to install without a cdrom?
[20:50] <max__> ok
[20:50] <Skapare> nucco: depends ... do you already have a full copy or a partial copy ... and you know of a rsync server URL already I presume
[20:50] <Starnestommy> mut80r: I accidentally tab-completed the wrong nickname
[20:51] <Odd-rationale> !install | shane2peru
[20:51] <ubotu> shane2peru: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:51] <mut80r> Starnesommy: lol
[20:51] <joshua__> hey guys
[20:51] <joshua__> i have a quick question
[20:51] <obf213> yo is anyone in here having the same problem withthe gnome panel, when u click on the clock, it freezes all the panels, and u cant open run dialog box, and when u kill ex and sign back in the the panels arenj't there
[20:51] <mut80r> !ask | joshua__
[20:51] <ubotu> joshua__: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:51] <retalin> o awesome find it grep -r string
[20:51] <shane2peru> !automate
[20:51] <zoommy99> Yes creative xfi
[20:51] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[20:51] <StevenX> what is the easiest way to get IE running on Ubuntu? I need to use that browser for a website that I need to take a test on.
[20:51] <nucco> skapare, I have a partial copy, I know a server url, been working it out on my own, the thing wants to sync the entire folder...
[20:51] <Monk728> encountering an error while trying to install on a fresh system.  After selecting install I am getting the initramfs prompt.  I have even attempted to install using alternate CD, and now that is giving me a "No kernel modules were found... This is probably due to a mismatch of the kernel used by this version and the kernel in the one online" and it will not let me continue past that.  Please help, this is driving me nuts
[20:51] <max__> türkçe sorusu olan
[20:51] <mattywarr> Hi - i've just installed iglooftp but due to my ridiculously poor linux knowledge, I have no clue how to launch it as its not installed in my applications menu
[20:51] <dystopianray> StevenX: wine + ies4linux
[20:51] <frostburn> StevenX, vmware, or wine
[20:51] <Slart> StevenX: perhaps a vm will help?
[20:51] <Jaymac> StevenX: probably wine doors
[20:52] <joshua__> im trying to see my windows network computers, but they dont show up! only windows network and i can see "workgroup" but no pc's actually show!! i can ping them though
[20:52] <Jaymac> StevenX: it's better than ies4linux
[20:52] <cal_> Failed to copy files; faulty CD/DVD or hard disk? -- get this error 42% into the hardy install.. any ideas? ive tried 2 different cd's.
[20:52] <jaffarkelshac> ies4linux was rubbish i tried it
[20:52] <StevenX> lots of options. ok. i will try wine doros first.
[20:52] <priman> do anyone know where i can find drivers for my 2 year old hp pavilion dv5095ea laptop (all drivers - sound, graphics, wifi etc.)
[20:52] <StevenX> doors*
[20:52] <neztiti> guys i have slow connection here with ubuntu8.04 any help???
[20:52] <dystopianray> joshua__: are they running vista?
[20:52] <Arky44> shane2peru: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[20:52] <ptn107> Skapare: dont know
[20:52] <joshua__> no
[20:52] <joshua__> xp
[20:52] <Jaymac> StevenX: http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/
[20:52] <os2mac> where is the us.archive.ubuntu.com hosted?
[20:52] <Skapare> nucco: you need to give rsync the exact full path to the remote file, the full path to the local file (after you made a backup COPY (not hard linke)) ... use options -P -B2048
[20:52] <dystopianray> priman: your sound, graphics and wifi aren't working?
[20:52] <Stiny> Can I get a little help with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting ? I don't think I understand.
[20:52] <zoommy99> how do I put someones name infront of my message
[20:52] <shane2peru> got it Arky44 thanks though
[20:52] <Slart> neztiti: how slow is slow? and what have you tried so far?
[20:52] <nucco> neztiti: maybe you should call your ISP? ;)
[20:52] <afallenhope> Heyyyy what packages do I need to develop C++ code and stuff?
[20:53] <dystopianray> zoommy99: type it out, using your keyboard
[20:53] <Starnestommy> zoommy99: type the first few letters then hit the tab key
[20:53] <joshua__> i havent touched the network
[20:53] <priman> dystopianray: no, its not working
[20:53] <jaffarkelshac> zoommy99, just type it
[20:53] <Starnestommy> afallenhope: g++ and build-essential
[20:53] <milly1234> my internet has been so very slow since I upgraded to 8.04, downloading it was fast, I know everyone is complaining about how fast it is to get it... but now that I have it, _everything_ is slow on the internet, using a linksys pci wireless g card....
[20:53] <zoommy99> dystopianray: ok thanks and yes I meant creative xfi
[20:53] <joshua__> so i dont know why i can see somethings but not the files
[20:53] <neztiti> nucco:  with update or download only
[20:53] <afallenhope> thanks Starnestommy
[20:53] <IcemanV9> nucco: rsync -avP --progress rsync://path/to/mirror/iso  your/downloaded/broken/iso
[20:53] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: i couldn't configure opendns..it always changes the dns adresses i added
[20:53] <zoommy99> dystopianray:  is it working onhardy?
[20:53] <Skapare> ptn107: the one mirror I have used before, got the 7.10 DVDs from, looks like it is still downloading the 8.04 DVDs ... and is hiding them maybe until it has them all
[20:53] <neztiti> ﻿Slart:﻿with update or download only
[20:53] <nucco> IcemanV9 and Skapare cool, thanks...
[20:54] <dystopianray> zoommy99: I have no idea
[20:54] <MEtaLpREs> anyone else noticed problems playing video in hardy?  using vlc in gutsy every video was fine,  now in hardy using the same version of vlc some of the same videos will no longer play correctly,  just get a black screen with audio
[20:54] <iKar> and what if is broken or smthng similar?
[20:54] <lunartear> stroyan: I'm still getting that error
[20:54] <priman> ﻿do anyone know where i can find drivers for my 2 year old hp pavilion dv5095ea laptop (all drivers - sound, graphics, wifi etc.)
[20:54] <mike23> i have two network card, how can i find out which one is which?
[20:54] <zoommy99> does anyone know if anyone has gotten an xfi card to work on hardy?
[20:54] <nucco> neztiti: you mean ubuntu update downloads are slow? that's to be expected. a new version just got released :)
[20:54] <IanBeyer> wow, still stuck at 40%
[20:54] <joshua__> vlc works great forme
[20:54] <Slart> neztiti: I repeat.. how slow is "slow" and what have you tried so far?
[20:54] <dystopianray> priman: can you pastebin your lspci?
[20:54] <whileimhere> Hey Room. I see that the servers are still slammed.
[20:54] <afallenhope> Starnestommy: supposedly I have them installed I dont' know why this isn't working
[20:54] <Arky44> mike123: in a terminal, type sudo lshw -C network
[20:54] <IanBeyer> room?
[20:54] <joshua__> updates are slow server traffic too high
[20:54] <Starnestommy> afallenhope: what error are you getting?
[20:54] <neztiti> nucco:  yes
[20:54]  * IanBeyer looks for walls
[20:54] <kristian42> shzoomy99: is the xfi supported ?
[20:54] <Arky44> mike123: this will list your network connections and tell you what goes with what
[20:54] <mike23> rky44, ty
[20:54] <priman> pastebin lspci? im pretty new
[20:54] <ptn107> Skapare: the cdimage.ubuntu.com mirror still shows the dvd iso dates as 4-23-08, so i dont think the new images are on there yet
[20:54] <fdkrew> joshua: change the source to a closer server
[20:55] <iKar> and what if is broken or smthng similar?
[20:55] <nucco> neztiti: if you know enough to switch mirrors, you can try that, otherwise, just wait a few days...
[20:55] <kindofabuzz> for you people upgrading, alot quicker if you use the alternate install cd to upgrade,  with the cd i only had to download about 300 packages, got the other 1000+ off the cd
[20:55] <mut80r> ptn107: the last RC is the LTS.
[20:55] <dystopianray> priman: run 'lspci' in a terminal and put it on a pastebin website, then post the url in here
[20:55] <PhoenixP3K> is gthumb still part of Hardy HEron?
[20:55] <dystopianray> !pastebin | priman
[20:55] <ubotu> priman: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:55] <milly1234> my internet as a whole is almost half speed, like 14kbps to 48kbps, and this has nothing to do with updates or downloading 8.04, I am running 8.04
[20:55] <DRebellion> Will firefox 3 beta 5 be upgraded to firefox 3 eventually?
[20:55] <Administrator_> hi.. I had a PCMCIA Buffalo WLI-CB-G54 up and running on Gutsy Gibbon by enabling the restricted drivers.. but as I upgraded to Hardy Heron, the list on Hardware Drivers is just empty. I proceeded to Hardware testing, and it rightly detects a BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] Wireless controller, but the lights on the PCMCIA card are not on. Can anyone please help?
[20:55] <joshua__> yes
[20:55] <dystopianray> DRebellion: yes
[20:55] <joshua__> firefox will be upgraded
[20:55] <DRebellion> dystopianray, excellent
[20:56] <neztiti> nucco:  i have to disable ipv6 ???
[20:56] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: this instruction, https://www.opendns.com/start?device=ubuntu , does the trick
[20:56] <milly1234> actually my internet is less then half the normal speed
[20:56] <DBautell> ok, I might be back, actually
[20:56] <pmasters> any1 help with installing VMWare Server on 8.04??
[20:56] <adma84> could someone help me with my printer?  Should be simple
[20:56] <milly1234> I have disabled ipv6 too
[20:56] <adma84> I can't figure out how to just print greyscale
[20:56] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: it didn't :( restarting changes verything
[20:56] <adma84> it prints in color perfectly
[20:56] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: wish i knew the answer too.  i have the same card.  very well known problem with Hardy
[20:56] <nucco> neztiti: you don't need to do anything. you're probably connected to a slow mirror that's all. it should go away in a while, or is it your general net connection slow?
[20:56] <fdkrew> What card do you have?
[20:56] <milly1234> I am having a general slow net connection in 8.04
[20:57] <koomber> found information on problem with Dell PC.  needs to be booted in raid mode note IDE.  However, I need to dual boot into Vista and this can't be done without changing bios back to IDE, anyone know a workaround?
[20:57] <DBautell> ok, dassouki_, did my last message come through? "system -> preferences -> sound ?"?
[20:57] <Arky44> milly1234: what browser are you using?
[20:57] <Seveas> koomber, get rid of vista :)
[20:57] <neztiti> nucco:  ok thank you man and thanx for slart too
[20:57] <jedimasterk> anyone solve the dreaded initramfs prompt yet. With Live cd
[20:57] <milly1234> not just the browser, everything
[20:57] <milly1234> nomatter what I use
[20:57] <dbristow> so, other people have reported problems with the wubi.exe md5sum, it's not just me
[20:57] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: yeah.. why didn't they just leave it working like before?
[20:57] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: can you put it in your router? (so all your PCs/laptops can go thru opendns just like mine)
[20:57] <priman> ok, Ray: http://pastebin.com/d4cbb6737
[20:57] <milly1234> I already disabled ipv6
[20:57] <adma84> can someone please help me with my printer?  It always prints in color.  I can not figure out how to just print greyscale...should be easy fix I would think
[20:57] <JKT7> can anyone tell me if there is a way to change what mirror apt-get uses? and is anyone else getting terrible download rates from archive.ubuntu.org ?
[20:57] <DBautell> dbristow, many-ish
[20:57] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: lol i dunno
[20:58] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: you mean i change it from the inside of modem?
[20:58] <thingfish1> JKT7, everyone is
[20:58] <dystopianray> !slow | JKT7
[20:58] <ubotu> JKT7: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[20:58] <dassouki_> DBautell, i tried all the drop downs and nothing works
[20:58] <kindofabuzz> for you people upgrading, alot quicker if you use the alternate install cd to upgrade,  with the cd i only had to download about 300 packages, got the other 1000+ off the cd
[20:58] <Vlet> I'm trying to get samba to use pam password auth instead of having to use smbpasswd to set one for each user, but when I google for this topic, I get like 50 different conflicting ways... anyone have a suggestion for the simplest way to do this?
[20:58] <IcemanV9> adma84: open the properties on the printer & change it from color to grayscale
[20:58] <joshua__> anyone able to help me with my network?
[20:58] <mitooz> Hello
[20:58] <mitooz> ﻿How can I make my 5.1 sound work in media players?
[20:58] <Stiny> Okay, I just need a little help with sound. I don't really get this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:58] <adma84> i couldnt find that option
[20:59] <Skapare> ubotu: would love to ... if I can find a CLI/text client that can either use a TCP proxy or a SOCKS proxy
[20:59] <n000b> can someone help me setup my bluetooth mouse
[20:59] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: did you post the problem anywhere?
[20:59] <StevenX> sweet. the website i needed works in firefox.
[20:59] <Vlet> !ask
[20:59] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:59] <mut80r> Skapare: ubotu is a bot.
[20:59] <DBautell> ok, dassouki_ , you need more knowledgeable help than I :(
[20:59] <Skapare> mut80r: good for him
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: there are bugs everywhere posted about the bcm cards
[20:59] <cvd-pr> Now i can ask question abiut heron?
[20:59] <Skapare> mut80r: that means he can ignore dumb questions like mine :)
[20:59] <n000b> can someone help me setup my bluetooth mouse
[20:59] <cgentry72> how do i get gnome to show the splash screen?
[20:59] <IcemanV9> Dusk_: yeah. follow the instruction, https://www.opendns.com/start , for router
[20:59] <mut80r> Skapare: LOL.
[20:59] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: google bcm bug ubuntu hardy
[20:59] <Vlet> cvd-pr: #ubuntu+1
[20:59] <priman> dystopianray: now you can see my lspci here http://pastebin.com/d4cbb6737
[20:59] <milly1234> 8.04 was a messy upgrade for me compared to previous ones, especially when it came to xorg and my wireless card, which worked flawlessly in previous releases
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> cvd-pr, #ubuntu+1...  nah, just kidding, it's okay to ask here now :)
[21:00] <joshua__> need help seeing the xp computers on my network
[21:00] <n000b> can someone help me setup my bluetooth mouse
[21:00] <cvd-pr> :-)
[21:00] <TheWarden> Hi. Is it possible to have access to write to a FAT system? I have a USB Flash Drive that is primarly used in Windows but more and more now I've also using it in Linux, Ubuntu?
[21:00] <Skapare> mut80r: actually he autoprivmsgd that he was a bot
[21:00] <dassouki_> DBautell, thanks though
[21:00] <Daisuke_Ido> Vlet, you know we're doing hardy here now
[21:00] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: too bad then, huh?
[21:00] <joshua__> can see "workgroup" but no computers listed in my network
[21:00] <Vlet> oh? before 7.04 was oficially released, all 7.04 discussion was directed to +1
[21:01] <cgentry72> how do i get gnome to show the splash screen?
[21:01] <Vlet> Oh, Hardy is out!
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: well i got one more thing i'm gonna try as soon as my upgrade is done, it's basicallly blacklisting the b43 driver and using the old bcm43xx driver
[21:01] <Dark-Fx> Vlet: really?
[21:01] <mut80r> Vlet: yes :)
[21:01] <dystopianray> TheWarden: yes, you can write to FAT partitions
[21:01] <TheWarden> cgentry72: splash some water on the screen lol lol
[21:01] <Daisuke_Ido> Vlet, yep :D
[21:01]  * Vlet smacks self
[21:01]  * mut80r is on 8.04 Hardy right now.
[21:01] <kindofabuzz> this isn't just for Hardy
[21:01] <cgentry72> TheWarden, hehe
[21:01] <Daisuke_Ido> nah, don't worry
[21:01] <joshua__> anyone know how to see windows xp computers on a wireless network?
[21:01] <TheWarden> dystopianray: how can I go about doing this as presently its read only?
[21:02] <phiras> Hi people , I have Ubuntu 7.10, and I'm unable to enable the htaccess files for the Apache2 server, I have changed the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default file to allow override, but it won't work ,
[21:02] <Odd-rationale> Is there a way to disable internet access for a guest account?
[21:02] <phiras> Anyone could help me please
[21:02] <fbc> Wow, the server is back! I wasn't able to get a connection for a long time.
[21:02] <milly1234> my wireless connection has gone belly up since my upgrade to hardy
[21:02] <dystopianray> TheWarden: i'm not sure why it'd be read-only, you should have full read/write access
[21:02] <Skapare> and the canonical store doesn't even have pre-ordering for the 8.04 DVDs, yet (just CDs) ... and the first store page still says 7.10 is the latest (someone needs to update another page)
[21:02] <kindofabuzz> milly1234: welcome to the main problem with Hardy
[21:02] <priman> can anyone help me find drivers to this hardware? http://pastebin.com/d4cbb6737
[21:02] <fbc> milly1234,  flip it over.. lol
[21:02] <noelferreira> sometimes using compiz i open some programs that only display the window bars. Every text and buttons in it disappear: any help?
[21:02] <jaffarkelshac> when you say see what do you mean, joshua__ file sharing
[21:02] <TheWarden> dystopianray: oh that is strange... I'll play with it some more then and see if I can get more info then.
[21:02] <milly1234> its just horribly slow, and drops out from time to time
[21:03] <mut80r> jaffarakelshac: browsing the network
[21:03] <gogeta> Skapare i orderd a 8.04 cd :)
[21:03] <PKsteR> I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now it wont detect my nvidia GPU and it always start in low graphics mode, so I install the nvidia drivers every time but still it wont recognize the GPU on next boot
[21:03] <Skapare> gogeta: and you can do that for a CD ... I want a DVD
[21:03] <jaffarkelshac> what do you mean browsing the network mut80r
[21:03] <nibsa1242b> priman: what do you need a driver for?
[21:03] <graingert> msg NickServ IDENTIFY ubucop
[21:03] <gogeta> :-(
[21:03] <graingert> bollox
[21:03] <dystopianray> lol
[21:03] <LOGAN> hey wheres the website again? I only get some flashing pictures
[21:03] <Vlet> d'oh
[21:03] <mut80r> jaffarkelshac: he needs to "browse" his network to find the windows machines on it.
[21:03] <milly1234> lol, hope hardy has some updates for nvidia users and wireless users soon
[21:03] <priman> nibsa: wifi, graphics and sound are thw most important ones
[21:03] <kindofabuzz> for you people upgrading, alot quicker if you use the alternate install cd to upgrade,  with the cd i only had to download about 300 packages, got the other 1000+ off the cd
[21:03] <DBautell> change it quick!
[21:03] <fbc> gogeta,  Do you know anyway to specify the video drive and monitor size, etc.?? I don't see that anymore in hardy.
[21:04] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: if I'm still here, lemme know how it works..
[21:04] <graingert> milly1234: nvidia is fine
[21:04] <flithm> hey does anyone know of a good segmenting download manager for gnome?
[21:04] <Dusk_> IcemanV9: oh thanks i've done it from the router
[21:04] <scizzo-> milly1234: works fine for me with nvidia
[21:04] <Skapare> gogeta: but I'll take DVD isos ... I have bandwidth to my server and can burn them there
[21:04] <fbc> flithm, I think downloader for X does that.
[21:04] <_lemsx1_> flithm: like that front-end for wget ?
[21:04] <tehgeek> Hey guys....I've just updated to Hardy, and now my Evolution crashes every so often and complains about an unsafe exit when I restart it.  Anyone know the problem?
[21:04] <LOGAN> can you guys check ubuntu.com in IE??
[21:04] <Skapare> gogeta: just can't do torrent on it
[21:04] <nucco> kindofabuzz: you still *downloaded* the CD right?
[21:04] <Daisuke_Ido> i wonder how big the entire repository is...
[21:04] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: ok, well about 30 minutes left to install, wehn you see me log ogg here, that means i'm rebooting, if i don't come back within 10 minutes, it didn't work =)
[21:04] <flithm> _lemsx1_: yeah except that one doesn't so segmented downloads I think
[21:05] <Daisuke_Ido> LOGAN, since probably 99% of us are using ubuntu now, possibly not, what's wrong?
[21:05] <nibsa1242b> flithm: just use wget from the command line, its useful
[21:05] <flithm> fbc: yeah d4x doesn't seem so modern to me
[21:05] <kindofabuzz> nucco: yeah, torrent, only took like 45 minutes
[21:05] <_lemsx1_> flithm: what do you mean by "segmented" ?
[21:05] <milly1234> I had a heck of a time getting my nvidia 7300gt 512mb working, every time I told it to use the driver for it said it was and restarted and wasn't using it when I restarted, had to install them with apt-get and edit my xorg.conf
[21:05] <flithm> nibsa1242b: wget doesn't do segmenting
[21:05] <Stiny> Can anyone just please help me? :-( I don't know how to get my soundcard to work.
[21:05] <dystopianray> LOGAN: i have IE, what's the problem?
[21:05] <Daisuke_Ido> i stand corrected :)
[21:05] <PKsteR> guys i need help I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now it wont detect my nvidia GPU
[21:05] <flithm> _lemsx1_: like break up the download into X pieces and download them simultaneously
[21:05] <LOGAN> Daisuke_Ido : iguess ubuntu doent need more windows users then
[21:05] <nucco> kindofabuzz: *silly me*,
[21:05] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: hehe.. I can't grep any bcm on lsmod
[21:05] <LOGAN> the site looks incomplete under IE
[21:05] <Daisuke_Ido> LOGAN, wait what?
[21:05] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...
[21:05] <_lemsx1_> flithm: like download accelerator ?
[21:05] <joshua__> Yes i would like to have file sharing, but if i open up "Network" i can go to Windows Network" then "Workgroup" but after that it is empty
[21:05] <flithm> _lemsx1_: yeah!
[21:06] <LOGAN> only an image, no text
[21:06] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: you wanna try what i'm gonna do?
[21:06] <Daisuke_Ido> i thought you were asking if we in particular were using IE
[21:06] <_lemsx1_> flithm: use wine and run that then ;-)
[21:06] <dystopianray> LOGAN: scroll down
[21:06] <jburd> The Ubuntu livecd doesn't show any display on my box.
[21:06] <LOGAN> nono lol
[21:06] <ubus> hey does ubuntu 8.04 comes with inkscape?
[21:06] <LOGAN> hmm
[21:06] <flithm> _lemsx1_: hey that's not a bad idea :)
[21:06] <mattywarr> is there a definitive guide to setting up and using Compiz?
[21:06] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: sure.. I got nothing to lose
[21:06] <koomber> not quite Ubuntu but:  I can only get ubuntu to run in Raid mode on my Vostro 200, is it possible to install vista in raid mode and do I risk damaging my hdd if I do?
[21:06] <_lemsx1_> flithm: that should work
[21:06] <Arky44> ubus: yes
[21:06] <LOGAN> oh my that looks weird
[21:06] <nucco> joshua__: you can do "Places > Connect to server" and then select "windows share" and just type the name of the windows PC inside the "server" field
[21:06] <Administrator_> except maybe time.. :)
[21:06] <fbc> flithm, A good segmented downloaded it bittorrent... very fast too...
[21:06] <Daisuke_Ido> time to run back to the laptop to finish backing things up
[21:06] <dystopianray> LOGAN: it looks a bit messed up, but it's usable
[21:06] <Daisuke_Ido> so i can reformat :D
[21:06] <LOGAN> yeah i guess so
[21:07] <hyjal> any way to make my NTFS partitions automount in hardy like they did in gutsy? do I have to edit fstab manually?
[21:07] <flithm> fbc: haha thanks :)
[21:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i wonder if it's possible to recreate my dell reinstall partition with hardy...
[21:07] <joshua__> then what?
[21:07] <noelferreira> sometimes using compiz i open some programs that only display the window bars. Every text and buttons in it disappear: any help?
[21:07] <joshua__> it just closes
[21:07] <LOGAN> weird image not found combined with the image lol
[21:07] <Daisuke_Ido> since it's feisty right now
[21:07] <cube>  what should i be using to burn and iso without getting an error like i am with the built in
[21:07] <koomber> daisuke:  You having troubles with Dell Ubuntu install?
[21:07] <ubus> ﻿Arky44, now Im using Live CD 8.04 and there is no sign of Inkscape in Live mode? is it ok? will inkscape be instaled after I install ubuntu od disk?
[21:07] <_lemsx1_> hyjal: do you mean get detected by the installer and put in /etc/fstab ? just do it by hand
[21:07] <Daisuke_Ido> koomber, no, i've been upgrading since feisty and i'm looking to do a clean install
[21:07] <PKsteR> milly1234: I have the exact same problem
[21:08] <scizzo-> ubus: no matter what you can still install it from the repos
[21:08] <Daisuke_Ido> but the recovery partition is feisty, i was wondering if there were a way to update that to a hardy recovery :)
[21:08] <PKsteR> can you help resolve it?
[21:08] <ptn107> ubus: inkscape is not installed by default
[21:08] <pr0gr4mm3r> Hi, is there a driver available for the ATI HD 2400 Pro video card?
[21:08] <joshua__> do i need the windows name of the pc or do i need the ip?
[21:08] <Arky44> ubus: hmm...i thought it was...you can always install it later with "sudo apt-get install inkscape" typed into a terminal
[21:08] <Arky44> ubus: it still might be though :)
[21:08] <RunKidRun> hey guys, i tried an internet upgrade from my gutsy install <---- it failed, and now, x won't start , gnome nothing...how can i finish the upgrade via the alterative install cd without a GUI?
[21:08] <bnjmn> i just downloaded ubuntu desktop and installed it.  i am trying to install apache now from a package but Add/Remove Applications can't seem to find iit when I search for "apache" and show "All available applications".  help... where is it?
[21:08] <nucco> joshua__: the windows name of the pc will work fine too :)
[21:08] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: ahhh, the module's name is b43, right?
[21:08] <nibsa1242b> hyjal: some people have had issues with it changing how the system sees the device ( they see them how as sata instead of ide) if that is the case you probably need to edit fstab
[21:08] <dassouki_> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.31)] <<-- why is very slow, is there another link thati  can use
[21:08] <shane2peru> I ran a fsck on my hdd and it says, "Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1 Could this be a zero-length Partition?  Any ideas?
[21:08] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist  then add these two lines: blacklist b43 and blacklist ssb
[21:08] <koomber> daisuke:  I'm a total novice to Ubuntu, but I want to give it a blast on my Vostro 200. Having a heck of a time though.  Hardy does not like Dell (or dell doesn't like hardy ;)
[21:09] <Daisuke_Ido> koomber, i was just kinda thinking out loud :)
[21:09] <Arky44> !slow | dassouki_
[21:09] <ubotu> dassouki_: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[21:09] <joshua__> where can i see it?
[21:09] <nucco> dassouki_: in gutsy, synaptic had a way of selecting mirrors
[21:09] <dystopianray> koomber: hardy loves my dell
[21:09] <ompaul> ubus sudo apt-get install inkscape and that resolves your problme
[21:09] <joshua__> i dont see it anywhere
[21:09] <Daisuke_Ido> koomber, what about it is giving you troubles?
[21:09] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: and you may wanna comment out blacklist bcm43xx
[21:09] <karamazov> hello
[21:09] <ubus> ﻿Arky44, is there anywhere Ubuntu 8.04 beta with inkscape cuz I newer sucessed to install ubuntu on machine without net?
[21:09] <nucco> joshua__: see what?
[21:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know the specs of the vostro 200, so i don't know if there's a particular piece of hardware that might be giving you issues
[21:09] <joshua__> No application is registered as handling this file
[21:09] <shane2peru> any ideas on fsck?  zero-lenght partition?
[21:09] <dystopianray> ubus: download the debs separately and install them
[21:09] <ubus> ﻿Arky44, misstake not ubuntu to install, inkscape to install
[21:10] <gogeta> Arky44 im dialhell slow is everyday
[21:10] <karamazov> im not in sudoers list and i don't have a root account what should i do?
[21:10] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: done it
[21:10] <karamazov> i'm running ubuntu server edition
[21:10] <carlos> hello there
[21:10] <bnjmn> Do I *need* to get Ubuntu Server if I want to install apache from a package?
[21:10] <karamazov> 7.04
[21:10] <MEtaLpREs> what are the alternate repo addys?  the main ones are still dead slow
[21:10] <RunKidRun> anyone know how to upgrade ubuntu from crashed install?
[21:10] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: you'll have to reboot
[21:10] <dystopianray> karamazov: how did you manage that?
[21:10] <Arky44> gogeta: :)
[21:10] <shane2peru> I'm batting a 1000 today. :)  am I asking too hard of questions?
[21:10] <Arkaic> bnjmn: no
[21:10] <_lemsx1_> karamazov: boot in single usermode and add yourself to "admin" group in /etc/group
[21:10] <Starnestommy> bnjmn: I have it working on the desktop version
[21:10] <koomber> daisuke/sdystopia:  There seems to be a problem with installing in IDE mode.  Need to change bios to RAID to get it to work, however, I'd like to dual boot with Vista for the wife, but it's installed in IDE.  Not sure how to proceed
[21:10] <carlos> anybody updated ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04??
[21:10] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: doing it
[21:10] <M4rotku> hello, can any1 tell me how to upgrade from the 8.04 beta to the actual release?
[21:10] <karamazov> how can i boot in single user mode
[21:10] <nucco> bnjmn: technically, the only difference btw the ubuntu "versions" is just the default set of packages :)
[21:10] <Stiny> Can anyone help get my soundcard to work?
[21:10] <nucco> karamazov: boot into recovery mode
[21:11] <dystopianray> M4rotku: simply perform a standard package update and you're done
[21:11] <kindofabuzz> nucco: and the kernel
[21:11] <IcemanV9> ubus: try to install inkscape in livecd mode as long as you have enough memory to try
[21:11] <_lemsx1_> karamazov: reboot the system and choose REcovery
[21:11] <_mattd> does anyone here have experience with installing ThruDB?
[21:11] <hyjal> hm okay. if I want to add the partitions to fstab myself, do I need to know a UUID like the predefined entries ones have? i.e. UUID= a very long string of some sort.
[21:11] <mut80r> koomber: you should be able to drop the SATA driver into the windows install and get device manager to manually update the driver. then you can have both OS'es in SATA AHCI
[21:11] <nucco> kindofabuzz: which is also a package, or am I wrong?
[21:11] <karamazov> ok i'll try that
[21:11] <dassouki_> nucco, Arky44 u guys don't happen to know why from gutsy to hardy my sound stopped working :(
[21:11] <nucco> hyjal: no, using the /dev node is enough
[21:11] <carlos> please, could anybody help me?
[21:11] <kindofabuzz> nucco: yeah, i guess it is, but it's the "brain"
[21:11] <M4rotku> dystopianray, i haven't had any updates in the past 5 days or so
[21:11] <prettyricky> Can someone please tell me whats the difference between 7.10 and 8.04?
[21:12] <dystopianray> M4rotku: you are running the final
[21:12] <hyjal> nucco: ok thanks, will try
[21:12] <nucco> dassouki_: sorry on that one.
[21:12] <karamazov> by the way is there any advantage of running server edition to running desktop edition if i want my computer to be a web server?
[21:12] <merowinger> I have no sound on youtube using flash and firefox with ubuntu8.04... any ideas? system sound and music and everything else is working fine...?
[21:12] <Administrator_> upgrades are so traumatic..
[21:12] <M4rotku> dystopianray, ok, thanks
[21:12] <koomber> mut80r: that sounds plausible.  I'm sorry to say I'm a total novice.  and I don't know what you mean
[21:12] <nucco> guys, gotta go, be back in an hour.
[21:12] <mut80r> karamazov: the server edition has no GUI and uses less resources
[21:12] <RunKidRun> guys, my gnome is failing...i can't run it? how can i finish this upgrade?
[21:12] <IcemanV9> carlos: you haven't state the problem yet; please do tell and someone will help ya
[21:12] <kindofabuzz> for you people upgrading, alot quicker if you use the alternate install cd to upgrade,  with the cd i only had to download about 300 packages, got the other 1000+ off the cd
[21:12] <Arky44> prettyricky: more stable, more packages to download, in some cases faster, in general just better :)
[21:12] <RunKidRun> anyone :(
[21:12] <erUSUL> karamazov: server has no GUI
[21:12] <mut80r> koomber: google: "Install SATA AHCI driver after windows install"
[21:12] <dystopianray> karamazov: server allows you to select some preset roles and it'll install the appropriate packages
[21:12] <Starnestommy> RunKidRun: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:12] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: okay.. how do I modprobe?
[21:12] <joshua__> nucco: how do i view the folders on those pcs?
[21:13] <MidnightDevil> yo :)
[21:13] <MidnightDevil> i got no sound in my ubuntu.. what can i do?
[21:13] <PKsteR> 8.04 wont install the nvidia driver can some one please help
[21:13] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: i guess modprobe bcm43xx
[21:13] <carlos> my problem is that im trying to update ubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04 and i receive a error msg
[21:13] <carlos> everytime
[21:13] <prettyricky> Well I havent really seen any new packages, does it matter if I install the cd version or the upgrade version. Or is there no difference?
[21:13] <Flare183> Administrator_: open a terminal and type in sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[21:13] <linkmaster03> xsane immedietly exits with this on 7.10: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:13] <erUSUL> RunKidRun: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade if your sources already point to hardy
[21:13] <Flare183> oops crap
[21:13] <Batch> When i use acpi=off as a boot option, it boots fine but wireless does not work, when i use acpi=on or just not include it as a boot option wireless LED goes blue :D BUT the desktop does not boot and just goes to a black screen, Suggestions?
[21:13] <_lemsx1_> karamazov: server also does not change your network dynamically... do not use desktop for that
[21:13] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: i'm still a newb so don't get to technical with me lol
[21:13] <IcemanV9> carlos: what's the err message said?
[21:13] <erUSUL> carlos: which error?
[21:13] <joshua__> Nucco: when i go to smb://Kate (my wife's pc) it has 0 files
[21:14] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: hehe that I already did.. but still no lights on the pcmcia
[21:14] <bintrue|work> Anyone else experience back and foward buttons ceasing to function in firefox3.0b5 included in Hardy release?
[21:14] <carlos> it couldnt connect, check internet status and that
[21:14] <shadow420> I guess I will try to upgrade gutsy
[21:14] <_lemsx1_> karamazov: unless you know what you are doing ;-) (and can stand avahi+NetworkManager+resolvconf+whateverelse messing up your network configs)
[21:14] <fbc> How do you change your monitor type in hardy?? Is there a graphical tool like in Gutsy or do I have to manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:14] <scizzo-> !slow | carlos
[21:14] <carlos> but net is working perfect
[21:14] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: hmm i think i saw that but to in the bug tracker
[21:14] <priman> i have installed ubuntu with wubi, is it possible to use the files i have in my windows system? like music in my music?
[21:14] <jburd> shadow420: I've had nothing but problems with Hardy.  I'd first suggest trying out the livecd.  Mine doesn't even show me a display.
[21:14] <kindofabuzz> bug*
[21:14] <erUSUL> carlos: maybe the servers are just to loaded have you tried various mirrors ??
[21:14] <brakkvatn> How do I play my DVD movied in Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:14] <evand> priman: yes
[21:14] <kindofabuzz> for you people upgrading, alot quicker if you use the alternate install cd to upgrade,  with the cd i only had to download about 300 packages, got the other 1000+ off the cd
[21:14] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: I'm rebooting.. let's see how it goes
[21:14] <realcoolguy> hey i did something with my printer settings, and now under system-admin-printing it look at ip address 192.168.0.167  I need it to point to 127.0.0.1 by default, where can i change this back?
[21:14] <IcemanV9> carlos: ah. the servers are being overloaded. try a different mirror for now.
[21:14] <priman> evand: how?
[21:15] <evand> priman: there should be a shortcut on your desktop to your windows filesystem
[21:15] <carlos> yep i tried with the local here and the central node
[21:15] <priman> nothing on my desktop :s
[21:15] <fbc> jburd, I've had no serious troubles..
[21:15] <obf213> hey, if im logged into a default session, why can't I switch users, then change session to a remote desktop and log in
[21:15] <vixmusic01> Hi my mouse stopped working and I need a keyboard command to shut down. Thanks for any help.
[21:15] <evand> priman: try alt-f2 and type /host
[21:15] <Stiny> I still need help. I'm being really sad now. :(
[21:15] <karamazov> in /etc/group file, does adm:x:4:ugur mean ugur is an administrator?
[21:15] <priman> vixmusic: click the power off button
[21:15] <bruenig> hmm
[21:15] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: nope.. didn't work. I guess it's back to gutsy for now :(
[21:15] <vistakiller> sudo shutdown -P now
[21:15] <kindofabuzz> vixmusic01: sudo shutdown -P now
[21:15] <erUSUL> karamazov: yep
[21:15] <Starnestommy> karamazov: adm isn't the admin group
[21:15] <joshua__> Nucco: did you give up on me?
[21:15] <jburd> fbc: I've had only troubles.  the desktop cd (gutsy works perfectly fine) for hardy doesn't even show me a display when it starts up.
[21:16] <obf213> i try that it never works, it just logs me right back into my session, then i have to try again, i get a black screen have to kill xm then finally it recognizes i want a remote session but my old session is lost
[21:16] <jburd> fbc: the upgrade has borked my box
[21:16] <vixmusic01> is there a list of keyboard commands somewhere?
[21:16] <Dekkard> anyone get a link to an alternate install iso torrent?
[21:16] <IcemanV9> joshua__: nucco is gone
[21:16] <priman> thx
[21:16] <bintrue|work> vixmusic01:  shutdown -h now
[21:16] <kindofabuzz> vixmusic01: or sudo shutdown -r now (for reboot)
[21:16] <joshua__> oh
[21:16] <fbc> jburd, The method I used to upgrade was to download and bur the alternative CD and upgrade from that, then download all the updates.
[21:16] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: yeah i have a feeling i'll be using gutsy to for awhile
[21:16] <joshua__> you know iceman?
[21:16] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:16] <bruenig> ubuntu is up to date with the rolling distros for a few days, wooo!
[21:16] <jburd> fbc: Exactly what I did.
[21:17] <joshua__> i cant view files shared on a windows network
[21:17] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: how about ndiswrapper?
[21:17] <karamazov> to add the user "ugur" to group of root, should i edit the line "root:x:0" to "root:x:0:ugur" in the /etc/group file?
[21:17] <vixmusic01> I don't have a CLI - terminal is not open
[21:17] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: if you google around there are like 30 ways people have gotten there to work
[21:17] <Starnestommy> karamazov: adding them to the root group won't do anything
[21:17] <[T]-Rex> how do i extract a .tar.bz2 in terminal ?
[21:17] <bruenig> tar xf *.tar.bz2
[21:17] <Starnestommy> [T]-Rex: tar -xjf file.tar.bz2
[21:17] <kindofabuzz> [T]-Rex: man tar
[21:18] <bruenig> j and - are redundant
[21:18] <bruenig> Starnestommy:
[21:18] <Skapare> BTW, I'm running 7.10 on an old 400 MHz P-II, 128MB RAM, 14GB HD ... runs fine with one strange glitch (not a performance issue) ... hopefully 8.04 will be about as fast (and hopefully fix the glitch)
[21:18] <IcemanV9> joshua__: ah. not familiar with samba myself, but have tried it before and it works. i believe it's on the windows side for not allow you to view; permission issue?
[21:18] <jburd> fbc: My (any user for that matter) GNOME desktop does not show icons in the menus, does not render using the correct themes, does not use desktop effects, and the power manager refuses to budge
[21:18] <karamazov> ok, to give my user administrator privileges, what should i change in the /etc/group file
[21:18] <LukeL> Skapare have you thought about xubuntu?
[21:18] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:18] <karamazov> how can i make myself an administrator?
[21:18] <erUSUL> karamazov: editting those files directly is a Bad Idea (tm) there are many commands to do what you want adduser
[21:18] <TwinX> karamazov; #ubuntu-tr  tıkla
[21:18] <Flare183> karamazov: What do you mean like root?
[21:18] <Starnestommy> karamazov: you probably need to edit /etc/sudoers or add the user to the admin group
[21:18] <kindofabuzz> karamazov: add yourself to the admin group
[21:18] <IcemanV9> karamazov: use sudo
[21:18] <Skapare> LukeL: yeah ... but I decided regular Ubuntu was fine as performance goes
[21:18] <karamazov> ok thank you
[21:19] <emorris> ﻿karamazov: add your self to the admin group
[21:19] <LukeL> Skapare that's good to hear
[21:19] <joshua__> how do i use Samba?? and my network works if im on vista or xp, but just ubuntu i can see the network and workgroup, but not any of the files on them.
[21:19] <Cyr4x> GLib-ERROR **: The thread system is not yet initialized.
[21:19] <Cyr4x> what's happening?
[21:19] <jburd> fbc: I think hardy is a downgrade rather than an upgrade of any sort
[21:19] <bruenig> the glib thread has not yet been initialized it appears
[21:19] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: is your model also WLI-CB-G54?
[21:20] <Skapare> LukeL: it's this funny glitch I'd like to fix ... when I move the mouse, it produces a buzz (for fast moves) or clicks (for very slow moves) in the sound card output ... while playing sound actually works fine otherwise
[21:20] <fdkrew> Kindofbuzz what card are u using?
[21:20] <evilbug> i have a question about upgrading to 8.04 via alternative cd.i declined the "download updates while upgrading" option,but it's still telling me that it has to download stuff on the Start Upgrade window.why?
[21:20] <Cyr4x> so how to do it?
[21:20] <jharkn> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com ftw :)
[21:20] <bruenig> heron is ubuntu playing catch up, it is now where other distros have been for months
[21:20] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone know of a mail client that supports exchange 2007?
[21:20] <IcemanV9> joshua__: it has to be on windows side if i could remember correctly
[21:20] <Skapare> LukeL: since 8.04 just came out I decided I'd try that before pursuing this other ways
[21:20] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: no, mine's a pci wireless, wrt54g, still a broadcom chipset though
[21:21] <carlos> hey, does anyone knows a virtual drive emulator for ubuntu? like daemon tools f.e.
[21:21] <kR8ViTy> hate to just jump in but I installed gutsy server, now am I able to use mirrors for all in the sources.list, cuz the archive.ubuntu.com is just too slow...
[21:21] <Administrator_> kindofabuzz: damned be broadcom
[21:21]  * elektronik123 why i have low resolution in owner`s nvidia drivers ?
[21:21] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: i mean wmp54gs
[21:21] <Skapare> LukeL: so I'm waiting for a DVD to become available (yup, I got a DVD on that old machine :)
[21:21] <joshua__> Carlos use Kiso
[21:21] <realcoolguy> carlos, loopback mounting, you can do it with cds etc... i'll find a link for the instructions
[21:21] <jburd> nvidia displays worked flawlessly with gutsy.  hardy has probably just broken all of that.
[21:21] <joshua__> sudo apt-get install kiso
[21:21] <carlos> thx
[21:21] <zengen> Hi, is there any way to make a path variable recursive?  Or, do you have to add ever subdirectory?
[21:21] <kindofabuzz> Administrator_: yeah you'd think they would work with Linksys, i mean it's cisco damnit! =)
[21:21] <zengen> every&
[21:22] <cdm10> Where does GVFS store the trash folder?
[21:22] <LukeL> Skapare, I've heard that buzzing before on my computer with headphones on, I think it may just come with age
[21:22] <dystopianray> zengen:
[21:22] <carlos> i will use synaptic
[21:22] <dystopianray> zengen: you need to add every subdirectory
[21:22] <cdm10> I don't see a /.Trash folder, like the freedesktop.org spec says there should be.
[21:22] <cal_> arg!! input/output error while installing... tried 2 different cd's.. is this a known problem?
[21:22] <bintrue|work> Why are my button mappins in xorg.conf not being picked up by Firefox
[21:22] <jharkn> ﻿carlos: you can mount images anyway
[21:22] <jason> jburd your a fool my nivida graphis work fine
[21:22] <IcemanV9> joshua__: check this out for more info --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[21:22] <LOGAN> where to get the DVD edition download?
[21:22] <zengen> dystopianray:  thank you
[21:22] <jharkn> !mountiso | carlos
[21:22] <ubotu> carlos: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » or use the "gmountiso" package - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[21:22] <realcoolguy> oh, kiso does look nice, install it if you don't mind extra kde libraries carlos
[21:22] <LukeL> Skapare, you could try muting all the other channels except the ones you need (like mute mic, line in, cdrom etc)
[21:22] <jason> jburd i say huraay for heron
[21:22] <carlos> thank you very much
[21:22] <Skapare> LOGAN: still unknown ... I think they are hiding DVDs until they all get downloaded from the central place mirrors get them from
[21:23] <jburd> jason: I'm a fool because your nvidia card works fine?  I have 4 machines with different nvidia graphics cards here and none of them show up except one.  Who's the dick here you or me?
[21:23] <jburd> jason: I say heron is borked.
[21:23] <saito> "In order to be able to play TCP/IP games over a LAN, you will need to put a reference to your own machine in your /etc/hosts file." <-- how would that exactly look in my hosts file? (my ip currently is 192.168.1.7)
[21:23] <jason> jburd im the dick your right im sorry
[21:23] <karamazov> what should i do to make my ubuntu server edition to serve as a web server?
[21:23] <Skapare> LukeL: tried that ... no effect ... it also does small clicks for timer interrupts
[21:23] <LOGAN> Skapare : ah thanks, then I download first the CD and the DVD as soon as it turns up
[21:23] <asteriskmonkey> if ive installed a package with the --force option and i want to ignore packagement of that package how do i remove it from apts checklist
[21:23] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:23] <joshua__> iceman do you know how i start samba?
[21:23] <scizzo-> Skapare: the dvd is up.....?
[21:23] <dystopianray> jburd: what cards do they have? my fx 5200 works perfectly
[21:23] <scizzo-> !torrents
[21:23] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[21:24] <kR8ViTy> help plz?
[21:24] <Arkaic> joshua__: you dont need to start samba to view remote windows shares
[21:24] <lubix> how execute plugins "y listen now" in kopete with audacoius (i no speak very good english.....sorry for this))
[21:24] <ubuntucool123> is there any way to make the windows start button on keyboard open applications menu in ubuntu?
[21:24]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[21:24] <Skapare> LOGAN: one mirror I noticed rsync temp files with slowly increasing sizes ... so they ARE downloading DVDs ... then hiding them
[21:24] <Arkaic> you only need the client side piece, which is already there
[21:24] <jburd> fx 6100 series cards in 2 of them, 7400 in one (the one which works)
[21:24] <vixmusic01> So keyboard commands are not used outside of terminal?
[21:24] <joshua__> thanks iceman
[21:24] <Skapare> LOGAN: I'm guessing once they get them all complete and verified, they will expose them
[21:25] <ptn107> cdm10: /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[21:25] <Skapare> LOGAN: they do have the previous "rc" DVDs
[21:25] <cdm10> ptn107: thanks
[21:25] <IcemanV9> joshua__: np. sorry i am not much help in samba area.
[21:25] <LukeL> lubix, what's your native language? your question didn't make much sense in english
[21:25] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone know of a mail client that supports exchange 2007?
[21:25] <lubix> español
[21:25] <[]Mupp> getting "temporary key expired" when attempting to open 8.04 .iso downloaded from sunet.se mirror...wth?
[21:25] <lubix> spanish
[21:25] <LukeL> !sp | lubix
[21:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <DBautell> !spanish
[21:26] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:26] <IcemanV9> !es
[21:26] <LOGAN> Skapare: yeah well i wait for the release version :)
[21:26] <LukeL> thanks
[21:26] <dystopianray> LukeL: he wants to know how to use the 'Now Listening' plugin in kopete with audacious
[21:26] <scizzo-> Skapare: so what is wrong with the dvds on cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/?
[21:26] <giggsey> I've just installed Hardy, and got two problems. My PC is randomly freezing, total freeze, can do nothing (most of them, the monitor goes black and that's it). Also, when I login, the sound doesn't play, and a grey box appears for 5 minutes
[21:26] <lakotajames_> when i log off and leave the computer to come back later, after pressing a key to wake the monitor a white screen with a mouse appears.  I can move the mouse, but that is it. I then have to hold the power button in until the computer turns off and i have to reboot. i am still using 7.10.  Is there a reason and/or fix for this?
[21:26] <FooAtari> hi folks.  this might sound stupid, but after upgrading to herdy I cannot login with my user accout... the password seems to have reset itself or something...  anyway how can i reset account passwords from the root login?
[21:26] <DBautell> anything to steal someone's glory:D
[21:26] <josivan> ola
[21:26] <FooAtari> im workin in the terminal at the moment
[21:26] <lubix> ubuntu-es suck....no body help me
[21:27] <Starnestommy> FooAtari: passwd username
[21:27] <amenado> FooAtari-> easy,  passwd usernam
[21:27] <Stiny> Can I get some help?
[21:27] <ompaul> !root | FooAtari
[21:27] <ubotu> FooAtari: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:27] <josivan> help
[21:27] <helge> I get a "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" when trying to apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree, but everything else installs fine. Is this a bug?
[21:27] <FooAtari> im logged in as root thats not the problem, its my user account
[21:27] <ompaul> !help
[21:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:27] <trait> since the new kernel my sound doesnt work
[21:27] <Pitel> anyone using Audacious for playing mp3?
[21:27] <dystopianray> FooAtari: simple run: passwd user
[21:27] <josivan> brasileiro
[21:27] <dystopianray> FooAtari: replacing 'user' with your user's name
[21:27] <trait> alsamixer says
[21:27] <rizzy77> where can i get a source list for hardy
[21:27] <trait> ALSA lib simple_none.c:1738:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Headphone Playback Switch',0,2,0) appears twice or more
[21:27] <trait> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[21:27] <fbc> jburd, hmm I  have only had to do this once, but you can backup your home directory and reinstall ubuntu and retore your home directory.... That's the best fix for any of thses problems that I'm aware of..
[21:28] <milly1234> anyone else having poor wireless signal problems since upgrading to hardy that they didn't have before?
[21:28] <lakotajames_> anyone want to help me?
[21:28] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:28] <FooAtari> yeah i know dystopianray :)
[21:28] <Chillum> Hello everyone
[21:28] <roffe__> I'm going nuts over all the passwords I have to write EVERY damn time... how can I become root?
[21:28] <fbc> jburd,  best thign about that is that it's smooth sailing from there on.
[21:28] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: you may need to reinstall xsane
[21:28] <FooAtari> passwd user was what i needed thanks everyone
[21:28] <jburd> fbc: until the next release?
[21:28] <kR8ViTy> !help
[21:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:28] <jburd> fbc: I'm tired of doing that
[21:28] <Starnestommy> roffe__: use sudo
[21:28] <IcemanV9> roffe__: use sudo; no need to be root
[21:28] <dystopianray> roffe__: sudo -i
[21:28] <jason> you type in root and pass is your user pass you set up at the begenign
[21:28] <joshua__> arkaic do you know what i can do to see them?
[21:28] <scizzo-> roffe__: sudo -s -H
[21:28] <Chillum> I'm one of these guys having problems trying to set up the internet on Ubuntu 8.04.
[21:29] <styrman> i'm invoking movement.sh "movement.sh sprint" how do I get this line: "ability_times=$(($time / $sprint_cooldown))" to accept $1 something like "ability_times=$(($time / $($1)_cooldown))"
[21:29] <Dr_Venture> hmm, i'm having trouble setting up dual monitors...
[21:29] <vixmusic01> will browse the brain - thanks for first IRC chat since 1990! Bye
[21:29] <amenado> for anyone that cares... Hardy still dont seem want to boot from an ext3 partition, i mounted the liveCD iso and expanded to my /dev/sdb2 and then add entry to my existing linux to boot the new Hardy..  /dev/sdb2 has to be ext2 or else it wont boot
[21:29] <Arkaic> joshua__: just specify the path to the share names.  make sure the account you are using has access prileges to the shares.
[21:29] <FooAtari> wireless Chillum ?
[21:29] <Skapare> Chillum: one of how many?
[21:29] <styrman> oops wrong channel
[21:29] <Chillum> FooAtari: I'm trying to set up my ADSL modem
[21:29] <giggsey> When I login, the sound doesn't play, and a grey box appears for 5 minutes
[21:29] <Dr_Venture> i can clone my display, but it i can't make it extend
[21:29] <kR8ViTy> help anyone?
[21:29] <lakotajames_> when i log off and leave the computer to come back later, after pressing a key to wake the monitor a white screen with a mouse appears.  I can move the mouse, but that is it. I then have to hold the power button in until the computer turns off and i have to reboot. i am still using 7.10.  Is there a reason and/or fix for this?
[21:29] <roffe__> lots of help there :) I want to be root every time I start up ubuntu is it what scizzo said then?
[21:29] <josivan> helo
[21:29] <josivan> hello
[21:29] <FooAtari> whats the make and model Chillum
[21:30] <lakotajames_> i need some help
[21:30] <scizzo-> roffe__: you do not want that trust me
[21:30] <lakotajames_> please?
[21:30] <Starnestommy> kR8ViTy: what do you need help with?
[21:30] <tseug> how do i make a directory?
[21:30] <Skapare> mkdir
[21:30] <IcemanV9> !sudo | roffe__
[21:30] <ubotu> roffe__: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[21:30] <Starnestommy> tseug: mkdir directory-name
[21:30] <Chillum> FooAtari: Speedtouch 330
[21:30] <tseug> ok thanks
[21:30] <amenado> tseug-> mkdir newdir
[21:30] <kR8ViTy> may I pm you Starnestommy?
[21:30] <FooAtari> ah right one of those. you had it working under linux before Chillum ?
[21:30] <fbc> jburd, maybe you have really odd hardware of something.. I support a university full of a mishmash of PC's and I've only once run into a similiar problem with a chinese motherboard.
[21:30] <roffe__> I'm familiar with sudo, but I have to do the sudo command very often
[21:30] <Starnestommy> kR8ViTy: go ahead
[21:30] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to reduce space between icons on the desktop??????
[21:30] <Chillum> Nope, just my Windows XP OS i'm afraid.
[21:31] <scizzo-> roffe__: root is not something you should use as a normal user
[21:31] <joshua__> arkaic how do i do that? i did the windows share connect to server and i bookmarked them. if i go to the book marks they are empty though
[21:31] <elektronik123> _______________________________________________________________________
[21:31] <IcemanV9> roffe__: yeah, but it doesn't ask for password every time, right? ;-)
[21:31] <tinkerghost> sort of art deco for backgrounds & OO loads faster
[21:31] <Chillum> First time with Linux/ Used Unix before at uni
[21:31] <scizzo-> roffe__: root is someone you should only use if it really is needed
[21:31] <Lloydie-t> I am trying to install the proftpd package but I am getting various error of which one is 'proftpd: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.6.1-1ubuntu10 is to be installed'
[21:31] <elektronik123> how install nvidia
[21:31] <Vlet> How can I have samba auth against pam (or kerberos) instead of samba's own password database?
[21:31] <tokah> why does synaptic not find anty packages yet, apt-get works fine
[21:31] <joshua__> install nvidia by synaptic get envy
[21:31] <scizzo-> roffe__: in a terminal you can type: sudo -s -H and become root temporary and do the tasks you nee
[21:31] <roffe__> At least ten times every time I run ubuntu... definitely!
[21:31] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to reduce space between icons on the desktop??????
[21:31] <IcemanV9> !nvidia | elektronik123 - this wiki should help ya a bit
[21:31] <ubotu> elektronik123 - this wiki should help ya a bit: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:32] <roffe__> ok, scizzo, I'll try it
[21:32] <korny> hi
[21:32] <korny> i despair at the new ubuntu
[21:32] <dystopianray> roffe__: what are you doing that needs root all the time?
[21:32] <[]Mupp> anyone know why 8.04 .iso downloaded from sunet.se mirror says "temporary key expired"? outdated version?
[21:32] <gpled> anyone getting hang at Configuring apt 82% ?
[21:32] <scizzo-> roffe__: sudo -s -H is almost like using su - root however it is the sudo way of thinking
[21:32] <PKsteR> milly1234: please elaborate on the nvidia GPu problem so i can test if it works for me as I to cant install nvidia drivers on 8.04
[21:32] <korny> Where is the 3d effect manager?
[21:32] <Arkaic> joshua__: not sure what you mean. could you view the share files when you created the bookmark?
[21:32] <bartmon> ﻿Hi! I'm just running Rhythmbox in Magnatune mode (it streams music from the Magnatune label). While doing so the volume button in the player disappears! I'd really like to see it. Any ideas?
[21:32] <tyranos> hi everyone
[21:32] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me how to reduce space between icons on the desktop??????
[21:32] <giggsey> When I login, the sound doesn't play, and a grey box appears for 5 minutes
[21:32] <gpled> for 8.04
[21:32] <dystopianray> gpled: slow mirror, unplug the network to get past it
[21:32] <Vlet> []Mupp: maybe it's whatever program you're using to burn the iso?
[21:32] <scizzo-> roffe__: surfing, logging in to X etc should not be done via root....
[21:32] <tyranos> is there some uniform way to configure laptops fn keys
[21:32] <gpled> dystopianray: k
[21:33] <Chillum> I've tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/SpeedTouch but I don't know if i'm doing anything right.
[21:33] <[]Mupp> vlet: easy enough to check I guess..*checks*
[21:33] <roffe__> ok.. thanks I'll look into it, as long as I need to type it less often :)
[21:33] <PKsteR> I need help installing nvidia driver for 8800gtx on ubuntu 8.04 please
[21:33] <emorris> ﻿roffe__: if you want to open files as root often , you can create a launcher to                  gksudo "gnome-open %u"               and drag the file(s) on it
[21:33] <elektronik123> IcemanV9 low resolution ..
[21:33] <gpled> dystopianray: lol
[21:33] <ptn107> indian_munnda: it might be in  gconf-editor
[21:33] <gpled> dystopianray: worked
[21:33] <Vlet> emorris: what kinda zany irc client are you using o_O
[21:34] <FooAtari> did you get the revision Chillum ?
[21:34] <dystopianray> gpled: all it was doing was sudo apt-get update, you can do that later at any point
[21:34] <indian_munnda> ptn107: i m not getting it there.
[21:34] <joshua__> No i couldnt view them
[21:34] <emorris> ﻿emorris: why?
[21:34] <joshua__> if you were to create a network what would you do?
[21:34] <Chillum> FooAtari: revision?
[21:34] <Vlet> emorris: because your messages come out somewhat garbled
[21:34] <PKsteR> any body having  problams installind nvidia driver on 8.04?
[21:34] <Chillum> Sorry, not sure what you mean there.
[21:34] <roffe__> emorris: thanks I'll try it... But now I was trying to share files over smb, and in 8.04 it demands that the "administrator" grants access for me
[21:34] <Arkaic> joshua__: as said to you before, verify the permissions on the windows side.
[21:34] <tofaffy> How risky is shrinking a windows parition?
[21:35] <joshua__> what do you mean?
[21:35] <joshua__> shrinkind a partition is fine on vista
[21:35] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:35] <joshua__> no problem, little risk
[21:35] <emorris> ﻿Vlet: the one with the spaces was put there to make the command clear, rather than extra quotes etc
[21:35] <indian_munnda> ptn107: i m using gutsy.
[21:35] <tofaffy> joshua__, its xp parition I want to shrink so I can install hardy.
[21:35] <joshua__> it works if im in vista or xp
[21:35] <joshua__> not sure about xp
[21:35] <ptn107> indian_munnda: im using hardy, i cant find it in gconf-editor either
[21:35] <Lloydie-t> Can anyone advise of an ftpd apart from proftpd?
[21:35] <joshua__> norton has partition magic, which i hear does a good job, but not free
[21:36] <trait> does anybody know what that means, what alsamixer says:
[21:36] <dystopianray> tofaffy: i've seen it done half a dozen times, only ever failed once, when the person converted their windows partitoin to a dynamic volume, windows wouldn't boot after it was resized
[21:36] <neuromancer> hi just upgraded and was led to believe that in the latest release you could view your folders using a thumbnail view.  I can't seem to locate this option.  is it possible (this is a basic feature which should have been in form the start IMHO!)
[21:36] <joshua__> sometimes stuff turns up on torrent though
[21:36] <FooAtari> Chillum, stick this command into the terminal  grep -B 1 "THOMSON" /proc/bus/usb/devices
[21:36] <gpled> Lloydie-t: sftp. think thats the name
[21:36] <Stiny> I'm really depressed that no one can help me. Yes,you gave me some links but there are some things I still don't understand.
[21:36] <trait> ALSA lib simple_none.c:1738:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Headphone Playback Switch',0,2,0) appears twice or more
[21:36] <trait> alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[21:36] <Xecuter88> hi! having a strange problem. I'm using a python script so that amarok can handle my keyboard buttons and such, but the strange thing is that if i run "python gnome_media_keys.py" in a terminal things is fine. However, if i use the Run program thing (Alt + F2) and "python gnome_media_keys.py", then python is eating all of my CPU. How come?
[21:36] <Vlet> emorris: ahh... then maybe it's just your client prepending some utf-8 characters onto the beginning of your messages
[21:36] <roffe__> "Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share." that's what it says in the GUI for "File manager"
[21:36] <GF> Hey everybody, I upgraded to Hardy from Gutsy, I got a REALLY bad problem, can anyone help me here???
[21:36] <mohbana> how can i install kde 4 on hardy
[21:36] <emorris> ﻿Vlet: on every message?
[21:36] <m55> how do you find the gateway of a machine from the command line?
[21:36] <dystopianray> Xecuter88: check ~/.xsession-errors to see if there is any unusual output from python
[21:36] <tofaffy> Thanks dystopianray, I quit using ubuntu a few months ago due to not having time to manage it but It's almost summer so no more putting up with 8th grade and such...and I start at my new MUCH BETTER ENVIROMENT school next year so I think I can deal with it again.
[21:36] <PKsteR> GF:  state your problem
[21:36] <joshua__> Arkaic: i have permission on vista or xp, is there any other permissions?
[21:37] <IcemanV9> GF: state the problem you were experiencing. :-)
[21:37] <neuromancer> ﻿m55: ifconfig?
[21:37] <Starnestommy> m55: route -n or ifconfig
[21:37] <trait> sudo apt-get install kde4-core
[21:37] <Vlet> Stiny: did you ask a question?
[21:37] <dystopianray> tofaffy: good luck with it
[21:37] <tofaffy> Thanks
[21:37] <joshua__> how do i make my name yellow?
[21:37] <Stiny> Yes I did. Couple time.
[21:37] <trait> mohbana
[21:37] <Chillum> FooAtari: Funnily enough, I tried that. Don't get anything back. Don't think it worked!
[21:37] <Lloydie-t> is vsftpd OK?
[21:37] <m55> how do you set the gateway of a machine
[21:38] <FooAtari> what did it say Chillum ? must be something?
[21:38] <PKsteR> milly1234: you there?
[21:38] <gpled> Lloydie-t: thats the one
[21:38] <Vlet> Well, be patient, ask again occationally, and if you really can't get an answer, it's likely because no one knows the answer to your question.
[21:38] <asteriskmonkey> if i have a debian package file that i use dpkg to install, what switch must i use so its igrnored by aptitude
[21:38] <Chillum> FooAtari: I don't quite remember exactly what it said.
[21:38] <neuromancer> is it possible in hardy to browse your folders as thumbnails?
[21:38] <PKsteR> I need help installing nvidia restricted driver please any body.
[21:38] <Chillum> ...i'll go back and try again and note down the exact message. Back in a little while.
[21:38] <dystopianray> Lloydie-t: vsftpd is considered by many to be the best ftp server
[21:38] <FooAtari> any chance you can do it again Chillum
[21:38] <dbristow> I think someone decided to slipstream an wubi.exe update at the last minute and didn't update the MD5SUMS
[21:39] <emorris> ﻿m55: system>admin>network
[21:39] <indian_munnda> !icon
[21:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:39] <neuromancer> ﻿m55:  please read both the above answers from me and another!!!
[21:39] <Vlet> Stiny: I see you asked, "can I get some help?"
[21:39] <Lloydie-t> Thanks for the info I have just installed it
[21:39] <Shadow420> PKsteR it's easy
[21:39] <linkmaster03> xsane exits immedietly on startup with (7.10) :: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[21:39] <Stiny> Vlet: The problem is that If I get a link a to a guide I don't understand it and unsure about. Not because it's english it's because I really have no idea what to do.
[21:40] <PKsteR> not that ease I tried intslling them with the resticted driver manager but when i reboot they are not installed
[21:40] <nixnoob> hwo do i creat a symlink?
[21:40] <Vlet> Stiny: Well, this is kind of an on-the-fly help chatroom... not really a seminar. Specific questions will be more likely to be answered.
[21:40] <Dgro> Hi
[21:40] <Shadow420> PKsteR hmm
[21:40] <jbur2> nixnoob: man ln
[21:40] <ubuntucool123> will I be able to dual boot windows vista 32 bit and ubuntu 8.04 64 bit? My processor is Intel Core 2 Duo which is 32 and 64 bit compatible
[21:40] <roffe__> seriously, I'm going nuts over the new sharing program... It asks me to get permission, but it never asks me to type in a password.. has anyone else tried the new share in 8.04?
[21:40] <n000b> hey guys im having a bluetooth problem
[21:40] <neuromancer> ﻿ubuntucool123: yes
[21:41] <dystopianray> ubuntucool123: yes you will bea ble to, whether either OS is 32-bit or 64-bit is irrelevant
[21:41] <cgegner> I had the Ubuntu 8.04 beta installed, and now that it's been released if I just do the standard package updates will I be able to upgrade from beta to release?
[21:41] <Starnestommy> nixnoob: ln -s target-path symlink-path
[21:41] <ptn107> cgegner: yes
[21:41] <PKsteR> I know "milly1234" had the same problem and found a solution but she/he is ither away or just ignoring me. and my friend google is not really helping ither
[21:41] <arcsky> Im trying to install ubuntu from a usbstick and when i booted it up after choose keyboard it ask for it cant mount  the CDrom
[21:41] <dystopianray> cgegner: that's right
[21:41] <ubuntucool123> ok thanks
[21:41] <cgegner> ptn107, that's what I thought
[21:41] <jharr> What's the tool used to manage which programs have access to which keys in my keyring?
[21:41] <cgegner> dystopianray, thanks
[21:41] <n000b> can anyone help me with bluetooth headsets?
[21:41] <Vlet> !ask | n000b
[21:41] <ubotu> n000b: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:41] <towlie> i upgraded to hardy on my laptop but it keeps dimming the display. how can i fix this ?
[21:41] <ibleed> ubuntucool123, you might consider running the 32 bit version of ubuntu.  less problems that way
[21:41] <n000b> is vlet a bot
[21:42] <Lloydie-t> are there any recommended web interfaces for vsftpd based on PHP
[21:42] <Vlet> No, ubotu is a bot, I'm a human
[21:42] <dbristow> n000b: no, ubotu is the bot
[21:42] <Stiny> Vlet: I understand, but where else can I get help?
[21:42] <n000b> i cant seem to connect to my bluetooth headset
[21:42] <graingert> !hi
[21:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:42] <neuromancer> ﻿n000b: no they are telling you to ask the q instead of beating about the bush!
[21:42] <Jeah> I'm having a weird Window Manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy.  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  I just tried re-downloading and re-installing th
[21:42] <neuromancer> ﻿ n000b: more info please
[21:42] <Vlet> Stiny: Google, books...?
[21:42] <n000b> i connected my bluetooth mouse just fine but for some reason, the headset doesnt work
[21:42] <towlie> i upgraded to hardy on my laptop but it keeps dimming the display. how can i fix this ?
[21:42] <graingert> Vlet: you failed at the turing test
[21:42] <Vlet> graingert: lol
[21:43] <graingert> n000b: kill pulseaudio and try
[21:43] <jharr> ahh! seahorse
[21:43]  * neuromancer didn't fail the turing test and merged with wintermute
[21:43] <n000b> graingert: what the heck is that
[21:43] <cgegner> towlie, I know that I can control my laptop's display by going to System -> Prefs -> Power Management
[21:43] <Vlet> n000b: have you tried searching for something like "theModelNameOfYourHeadset ubuntu"
[21:43] <PKsteR> please help  nvidia driver are not installing on ubuntu 8.04
[21:43] <amerio> hey guys , I have atheros wireless card on my laptop , its in USE and enabled , but wireless aint working , can anybody help me pleaaase?
[21:43] <andycaass> sudo mount -o loop file.iso mountpoint (What should i use as a mountpoint)?????
[21:43] <carlos> awww crap! now that updater was working cool I dont have enought free space!
[21:43] <n000b> no vlet its a very rare model headset
[21:43] <carlos> :D
[21:43] <towlie> cgegner, i checked there. i unchecked dim display but its still dimming the screen
[21:43] <ptn107> PKsteR: your trying to install nvidia-glx-new package correct?
[21:44] <n000b> its a sony headset
[21:44] <engie> Hi. I'm running 7.10, update manager is showing no updates pending but isn't offering the 8.04 upgrade. Is there anything I can do to prod it?
[21:44] <roffe__> Did anyone know how I could be granted permission in the new sharing software?
[21:44] <Vlet> n000b: then perhaps it's not supported. Have you TRIED searching?
[21:44] <andycaass> sudo mount -o loop file.iso mountpoint (What should i use as a mountpoint)?????
[21:44] <Stiny> Vlet: I don't even know my soundcard. I don't know how to search for answers.
[21:44] <cgegner> towlie, did you check both of the tabs?  There are two for On AC power and On Battery Power
[21:44] <PKsteR> ptn107: any as long as it installs
[21:44] <n000b> no ill try right  now. brb
[21:44] <amerio> hey guys , I have atheros wireless card on my laptop , its in USE and enabled , but wireless aint working , can anybody help me pleaaase?
[21:44] <graingert> n000b: pulseaudio is the hardy soundserver
[21:44] <jbur2> andycaass: /mnt/ is an example
[21:44] <giggsey> When I login, the audio program crashes, and hangs my system for 5 minutes
[21:44] <giggsey> pulseaudio*
[21:44] <alcazoid> hi again
[21:44] <neuromancer> ﻿n000b: does it use a certain chipset? does lshw pick up anything?
[21:44] <Xecuter88> dystopianray, lost my connection.... didn't find anything in .xsession-error
[21:44] <towlie> cgegner, yea but its plugged into the ac now and its still doing that so thats not the cause of the problem
[21:44] <Pandemic> hey can someone tell me the shortcut to run something in hardy?
[21:44] <daemon3> What is the current state of the servers?
[21:45] <graingert> n00b: run pulseaudio -k
[21:45] <drivetrax> engie:  -- the topic says there is a torrent to get it
[21:45] <Pandemic> i think it was alt + f2 in gusty?
[21:45] <neuromancer> ﻿daemon3: smoldering
[21:45] <Vlet> Stiny: Well then it would be even harder for someone on the internet to help you, as we're not at your computer.
[21:45] <andycaass> jbur2: i want to mount a iso, should i mount it as a cd rom or something?
[21:45] <realcoolguy_> amerio, sure =)  i have an atheros on my laptop... does your wireless have it's DHCP server active?
[21:45] <engie> drivetrax: Are upgrades not supported at the mo?
[21:45] <n000b> how do i run pulseaudio?
[21:45] <ptn107> PKsteR: when you go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and check the box next to your nvidia card what happens
[21:45] <daemon3> neuromancer: So I shouldn't try to upgrade now?
[21:45] <dystopianray> Xecuter88: i'm not sure why it would take up so much cpu then, it's very strange
[21:45] <Vlet> Pandemic: or try ctrl-f2
[21:45] <PKsteR> ptn107: i got a 8800gtx but the driver wont install, for some reason i have to re-inwstall them when i re boot so im forced to use low graphics mode every time
[21:45] <m_saberi> hi
[21:45] <drivetrax> engie:  -- there's been problems since yesterday
[21:45] <graingert> n000b: in the terminal
[21:45] <amerio> realcoolguy_ nop I dont think so
[21:45] <neuromancer> ﻿daemon3: better than yesterday, you should be ok
[21:45] <engie> drivetrax: Thanks
[21:45] <graingert> !help
[21:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:45] <n000b> graingert: thanks what do i type in
[21:46] <graingert> pulseaudio -k
[21:46] <neuromancer> ﻿n000b: try... sudo lshw
[21:46] <graingert> not sure of spelling
[21:46] <andycaass> jbur2: i want to mount a iso, should i mount it as a cd rom or something?
[21:46] <graingert> tab complete
[21:46] <Chillum> FooAtari: The mesage was that the directory did not exist!
[21:46] <daemon3> Also, I got a Kubuntu "alternate" iso image and burned it to a disk.  However, I don't see an "upgrade" option.  Yes, my system is fully updated.
[21:46] <realcoolguy_> amerio, well connect your laptop with a wire to the router (have you ever used the wireless before on that router?) some make you enable it, and set the IP pool
[21:46] <drivetrax> engie:  -- why, i tried to apt-get a file, and it took quiet a while before it started
[21:46] <PKsteR> ptn107: it say that they are anabled and that i need to restart but when i do i have to do it again.
[21:46] <jbur2> andycaass: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 foobar.iso /mnt/
[21:46] <graingert> n000b: remermber pulseaudio -D to renalable
[21:46] <amerio> realcoolguy_ yeah when I had gutsy it used to work , when I made a fresh install for hardy stopped working
[21:47] <realcoolguy_> amerio: another thing you might want to look at first, is click the littler wireless icon, and does it list the access points you see?
[21:47] <Stiny> Vlet: I gues Linux isn't for me. Maybe because I can't solve simple problems. :)
[21:47] <Xecuter88> anyone else know? having a strange problem. I'm using a python script so that amarok can handle my keyboard buttons and such, but the strange thing is that if i run "python gnome_media_keys.py" in a terminal things is fine. However, if i use the Run program thing (Alt + F2) and "python gnome_media_keys.py", then python is eating all of my CPU. How come?
[21:47] <amerio> realcoolguy_ nop its not acitvated at all , wireless isnt working
[21:47] <ptn107> PKsteR: pop open synaptic and see if the nvidia-glx-new package and nvidia-kernel-common packages are installed
[21:47] <chubs730> andycaass: that command works wonderfully, but gmountiso is also in the repositories if you want something graphical
[21:47] <Dgro> What's wrong repositories/upgrade
[21:47] <Dgro> W: GPG error: http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[21:47] <hellonull> andycaass: you can also use gmount-iso for a gui
[21:47] <n000b> graingert can we talk one on one
[21:48] <realcoolguy_> amerio: oh, i think it was something about restricted drivers when i installed ubuntu, it found the atheros drivers and put them in
[21:48] <ravi> testing
[21:48] <n000b> graingert:
[21:48] <andycaass> hellonull: thanks, chubs730: thanks
[21:48] <PKsteR> ptn107: ok gimmi a minuite and thhanks for the help btw
[21:48] <amerio> realcoolguy_ atheros driver in restricted drivers is enabled and in use
[21:48] <graingert> n000b: no keep in room
[21:48] <ptn107> PKsteR: no prob
[21:48] <Vlet> Stiny: Just remember that probably 99.9999% of linux users figured it out using a combination of google, reading documentation, books, and chatrooms like this... just takes time
[21:48] <graingert> n000b: I gtg now so good luck!
[21:48] <Pandemic> Vlet: Nope, that didn't work.
[21:48] <tokah> help, i was using floola and accidentlaly kileld the process, now my ipod says it has no music on it, however, rythmbox still finds and recognizes the music
[21:48] <openuser> hi everybody!, I have a download on firefox 3.0, and I would like reinstall ubuntu, how can I continue the download once Ubuntu is reinstalled from the point where the download stoped?
[21:48] <graingert> n000b: bluetooth audio is a bit carp
[21:49] <n000b> carp?
[21:49] <cl> wOOt, installed 8.04 and got everything working !!!
[21:49] <Vlet> Pandemic: neither ctrl-f2 nor alt-f2?
[21:49] <`Tyler`> my internal wifi card wont work
[21:49] <Pandemic> Nope.
[21:49] <`Tyler`> any ideas
[21:49] <corbett> can anyone help determine why my usb external hard drive wont work with ubuntu by checking these log messages - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[21:49] <n000b> what do you mean carp?
[21:49] <zaggy-nl> what bad stuff could happen if you give a daemon user a password?
[21:49] <Pandemic> Oh wait, now it works Vlet.
[21:49] <Pandemic> weird.
[21:49] <n000b> crap?
[21:49] <Vlet> n000b: carp = crap = lulz
[21:49] <Pandemic> I just rebooted and it works now. odd.
[21:49] <drivetrax> eww.. i dun like this KSirc..thing
[21:50] <ptn107> PKsteR: while your in synaptic also verify that linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-generic is installed also (it should already be installed)
[21:50] <csais> which is the best program to download music like ares in windows ?
[21:50] <Myrtti> language, kids
[21:50] <graingert> !info pulseaudio hardy
[21:50] <ubotu> pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 280 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[21:50] <n000b> can anyone tell me how to configure ubuntu to work with a bluetooth headset
[21:50] <hellonull> is there a problem with emerald themes not working after hardy upgrade? compiz-fusion is working for me (cube, wobbly windows, etc) but the emerald themes aren't
[21:50] <cl> corbett,  looks like the drive is having problems reading.
[21:50] <chubs730> openuser: why are you waiting to finish the download until after the reinstall? out of curiosity
[21:50] <ompaul> !bluetooth | n000b
[21:50] <ubotu> n000b: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[21:50] <cl> corbett,  does it work elsewhere?
[21:50] <Vlet> n000b: have your tried searching for information on using your headset model with linux?
[21:50] <corbett> clit works elsewhere
[21:50] <drivetrax> hellonull:  go #compiz-fusion
[21:51] <n000b> ubotu ive checked that out already
[21:51] <nickrober> my sound is very scratchy and distorted in hardy, even when changing everything to use alsa instead of pulse audio
[21:51] <amenado> disturbing discovery, Hardy seem to lose settings in network-manager even if static ip addresses are set..one has to /etc/init.d/networking restart to get the route table activated
[21:51] <corbett> cl it works elsewhere
[21:51] <hellonull> nickrober, having that problem here as well
[21:51] <ompaul> corbett, be nice
[21:51] <graingert> !gogle
[21:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gogle - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:51] <fbc> How do you change your monitor type in hardy?? Is there a graphical tool like in Gutsy or do I have to manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:51] <graingert> !google
[21:51] <ubotu> google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[21:51] <csais> hey guys which is the best program for ubuntu to download music?
[21:51] <Vlet> n000b: what's the model of your headset?
[21:51] <nickrober> hellonull: been messing with it all day and can't get anywhere with it
[21:51] <n000b> sony
[21:51] <Myrtti> !repeat | csais
[21:52] <ubotu> csais: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[21:52] <bashca> hi there problem installing hardy ?? i download  desktop-i386 ... iso  and  i burn it  but when click  install  wont work ???
[21:52] <gpled> seems like i cant download updates.  should i put servers in by hand?
[21:52] <drivetrax> graingert: .. google-fu??
[21:52] <n000b> vlet
[21:52] <graingert> n000b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52296
[21:52] <|jess|> hello. When I choose ubuntu to install on the same partition where I do the installation. Does ubuntu change my grup settings? Does it do something with the MBR?
[21:52] <Vlet> n000b:
[21:52] <cl> corbett, what drive is it?
[21:52] <csais> ight
[21:52] <graingert> | jess | i think so
[21:52] <openuser> chubs730: I explain the dude badly, what I want is resume the download on other computer with ubuntu 8.04 (I also have it), but I don't know how to do it!
[21:52] <fbc> jbur2,  well, don't feel bad... I had toerase and start machine all over again like every two months with windows. So maybe it's an improvement. :-p
[21:52] <siriusnova> anyone run ubuntu on their macbook c2d?
[21:53] <drivetrax> |jess|:  grub
[21:53] <graingert> | jess |: make a grub boot floppy
[21:53] <corbett> usb?
[21:53] <DaaT> hi everyone
[21:53] <Vlet> allo allo
[21:53] <regis> hello, i realy need help...envy doesn't work for my geforce 8600M GT
[21:53] <superkiwi> Hello, I have a two audio devices on my motherboard, Nvidia ALC883 Analog, and digital. They are listed when I do: aplay -l. But in 'system settings'/sound the only device listed is the analog one. How can I use the digital one?
[21:53] <chubs730> openuser: sometimes with firefox downloads just don't resume, it's very unreliable
[21:53] <yup> hello
[21:53] <DaaT> slight prob. When booting into hardy, I have no taskbars... any clue? :)
[21:53] <drivetrax> |jess|:  how you installing linux?
[21:53] <bashca> hi there problem installing hardy ?? i download  desktop-i386 ... iso  and  i burn it  but when click  install  wont work ???
[21:53] <yup> what can you suggest for network dictionary server/client software ?
[21:53] <amenado> gpled what do you mean you cant? what error if any?
[21:54] <fbc> How do you change your monitor type in hardy?? Is there a graphical tool like in Gutsy or do I have to manually edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:54] <b33r_> wtf does that mean? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 26 00:37:15 2008
[21:54] <lindo> Hi, if I don't have a floppy drive and can't use my MBR for boot-loader installation, is there another way to boot into linux? CD perhaps?
[21:54] <adiabatic> Will 8.04 be uselessly sluggish on my celeronDell laptop with 256 MB of RAM?
[21:54] <cl> corbett, make and model?
[21:54] <amenado> fbc yes thats the standard thing to do, modify xorg.conf
[21:54] <Chillum> Has anyone here configured an adsl modem for the internet with Ubuntu?
[21:54] <chubs730> fbc: nvidia-settings if you're using an nvidia card
[21:54] <ceil420> The upgrade will continue but the '/var/cache/apt/archives/gcl_2.6.7-36_i386.deb' package may be in a not working state. Please consider submitting a bugreport about it.
[21:54] <drivetrax> lindo:  - unetbootin
[21:54] <cl> adiabatic, yes. Install the alternate version
[21:54] <ceil420> what's gcl?
[21:54] <gpled> amenado: just hangs. have to close it, and it tells me it could not get some files.  get 15 of 24
[21:54] <drivetrax> lindo:  Wubi
[21:54] <corbett> cl maxtor mini III 100 gb
[21:54] <amenado> adiabatic dont seem like it, i have a emachine t2240 and its okay
[21:55] <lindo> Thank you drivetrax
[21:55] <fbc> chubs730, nope not on my laptop ATI
[21:55] <|jess|> drivetrax: I installed from the desktop live cd
[21:55] <jPratt> What is new in 8.04
[21:55] <amenado> !slow | gpled
[21:55] <ubotu> gpled: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[21:55] <Vlet> adiabatic: probably no more than gutsy. it's not like vista in that there was not a ton of useless crap added - just more refined
[21:55] <jPratt> Im running it but i see no big difference
[21:55] <sarah_bear> hey guys, Im having a problem burning mp3s with the software K3b
[21:55] <Jeah> I'm having a weird Window Manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy.  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  I tried re-downloading and re-installing the xfc
[21:55] <drivetrax> |jess|:  all you need.. is there.  is it Dual Boot You Want?
[21:55] <ceil420> jPratt, you can actually update packages now
[21:55] <cl> corbett, are you using the Maxtor DriveLock™ software?
[21:55] <sarah_bear> says something about the file formate?
[21:55] <amerio> hey guys , I have atheros wireless card on my laptop , its in USE and enabled , but wireless aint working , can anybody help me pleaaase?
[21:55] <fbc> amenado, no it can't be standard as there was a utility in gutsy and feisty.. I just don't understand why it was demoted or something..
[21:55] <ceil420> jPratt, the only reason i'm even upgrading is so i can update libconfuse
[21:55] <jPratt> lol
[21:55] <adiabatic> cl: does the alternate version install an X server, or should I try xubuntu?
[21:55] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: burning them as data or audio?
[21:56] <amenado> jPratt-> nothing i see yet myself, i haft to try the bcm43xx chips and see
[21:56] <b33r_> what does that mean?? sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 26 00:37:15 2008
[21:56] <xkcdr0ckz> 8.04 & graphics is very slow on my IBM T41p notebook! (probably been talked about) can someone point me to a fix (URL) or maybe use previous 7.10 graphics drivers?
[21:56] <NeednVidiaHelp> can't get higher than 800x600 resolution
[21:56] <ja-barr> btw are what do people find to be the least resource intensive web browser minus dillo
[21:56] <chubs730> fbc: i'm not sure whether or not ati has a gui configuration tool, perhaps someone else knows? otherwise xorgsetup is a graphical tool to edit your xorg.conf
[21:56] <sarah_bear> as audio dystopianray
[21:56] <jPratt> Only thing i noticed is the Firefox
[21:56] <cl> adiabatic, dunno, never tried it. only saw that is was specifically for systems with <384MB RAM
[21:56] <drivetrax> xkcdr0ckz:  What video card?
[21:56] <dystopianray> ja-barr: lynx
[21:56] <ja-barr> minus text-based
[21:56] <gpled> amenado: my system is up and running
[21:56] <ceil420> jPratt, i wouldn't notice that; i've been using Firefox 3 betas for months :p
[21:56] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: make sure you have this installed: libk3b2-extracodecs
[21:56] <jPratt> me to
[21:56] <sarah_bear> ok
[21:56] <sarah_bear> let me check,
[21:56] <fbc> chubs thanks
[21:56] <amenado> fbc behind all those gui, its the xorg.conf that gets modified
[21:56] <jPratt> or atleast when i had Windows
[21:56] <meoblast001> hello.... i would like to perform the upgrade to Hardy with my Hardy CD and not the web, how do i do this if my bios doest boot off my only working CD drive?
[21:56] <cl> adiabatic, i put the regular version on a Sempron 3000 with 256MB once. Took 2 hrs to install and was dog slow
[21:57] <PKsteR> ptn107: yes the are installed
[21:57] <meoblast001> i want to upgrade throught Gutsy to Hardy
[21:57] <ceil420> Firefox was still at 2.0.0.9 when i switched to Linux :p
[21:57] <lindo> Does wubi negatively impact performance at all?
[21:57] <amenado> gpled so be happy, what is the complaint?
[21:57] <gpled> thought bittorents solved the load problem years ago
[21:57] <ibleed> i installed a gnome icon theme.  despite having installed it all icons changed except for folder icons.  the folder icons instead of switching went to "standard gnome" icons.  how can i fix ?
[21:57] <gpled> amenado: cant get update
[21:57] <sarah_bear> hmm dystopianray it says "E: Couldn't find package libk3b2-extracodecs
[21:57] <sarah_bear> "
[21:57] <cl> lindo, a little bit. you probably won't notice.
[21:57] <tyranos> where can i setup my notebook special keys plz help
[21:57] <cl> lindo, the bigger probl is that you can't mount your windows drive though.
[21:57] <dystopianray> gpled: apt doesn't work over bittorrent though
[21:57] <amenado> gpled-> i already told you the servers are extremely busy, just be patient
[21:57] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: are you using hardy?
[21:57] <lindo> hmm
[21:57] <drivetrax> lindo:  Wubi is a Loop Mounted Ubuntu.  Not going to change Partitions.. it can be mounted with LVM..
[21:57] <sarah_bear> i am using gusty
[21:58] <pen> ibleed: you can add the name of that jpg to your theme icon folder and it will put it on automatically
[21:58] <gpled> dystopianray: should i add a close server to download?
[21:58] <needcdrom> hey alls, my computer won't let me update from gutsy to hardy for some reason
[21:58] <ibleed> thanks pen
[21:58] <ptn107> PKsteR: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file,   in the section under 'Device'  the Driver should be "nvidia"; heres my xorg.conf file for reference http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64423/
[21:58] <chubs730> lindo: you can also install ubuntu and not change the mbr, and use a usb boot stick
[21:58] <drivetrax> lindo:  unetbootin - is a network via internet install that will partition and make MBR
[21:58] <lindo> gotcha, and you'd consider that preferable to a boot cd or some such?
[21:58] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: make sure you have this packaged installed: libk3b2-mp3
[21:58] <|jess|> drivetrax: I already have 2 distros and wanted to add ubuntu.
[21:58] <amenado> needcdrom-> the server side may be busy
[21:58] <needcdrom> it complains about there being unofficial software on my sistem or somethying
[21:58] <sarah_bear> ok
[21:58] <pen> ibleed: that's why I love linux. It's all customization
[21:58] <giggsey> pulseaudio is crashing when I login to my Hardy
[21:58] <needcdrom> it's not related to the server
[21:58] <dystopianray> gpled: that may help
[21:58] <csais> guys where can i find my windows files while im using ubuntu?
[21:58] <adiabatic> cl: hmmmm, thanks
[21:58] <drivetrax> lindo:  You can use a USB
[21:58] <cl> adiabatic, ;)
[21:59] <GNUtoo> hello i'm regis
[21:59] <amenado> csais-> are you trolling?
[21:59] <adiabatic> cl: did the machine run Ubuntu OK after the installer finished, though?
[21:59] <cl> GNUtoo, hello
[21:59] <sarah_bear> I already have that installed dystopianray
[21:59] <lindo> Thanks chubs, drivetrax, I'll look into both
[21:59] <sarah_bear> anything else i need?
[21:59] <DaaT> also, when booting from hardy's CD, it gets to the first screen (after choosing install), the language select screen, but can't advance. Cursor moves but doesn't clic, keyboard navigation doesn't work as well. It's the same thing when booting into 8.04 after updating from 7.10, using the latest kernel version
[21:59] <ceil420> needcdrom, when i got that message, i had broken packages. the error message should have given you a directory to some logs; look at the latter part of those logs and see what packages are causing the problem, and remove them manually
[21:59] <csais> what do you mean with trolling?
[21:59] <cl> adiabatic, very slow. i put another 256MB in and it was much better.
[21:59] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: what problem are you having with k3b then?
[21:59] <strtok> Anyone have an issue with 8.04's titlebars turning purple/rainbow every once in a while? They correct themselves if you click on the window
[21:59] <cl> adiabatic, i wouldn't recommend it.
[21:59] <Jeah> Can anyone help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy?
[21:59] <gpled> wa hoo, look at it fly
[21:59] <|jess|> drivetrax: I did choose to install the Ubuntu bootloader in the same partition as the installation because I didn't want ubuntu to change my grub setup
[21:59] <ptn107> strtok: yes
[21:59] <cl> adiabatic, even WinXP was faster
[21:59] <ChrisVP> I'm trying to install some drivers, and getting the message that us.archives.ubuntu.com isn't resolving.  Is that standard behavior?  Will it be resolved soon?
[21:59] <CyberCod> didja all hear about the new Apple product?  its just like the iPhone, except that they gave it an honest name... its called the iBroken
[21:59] <needcdrom> ceil420: thank you thank you! that's the kind of thing I needed to know
[22:00] <drivetrax> I found that using a certain ATI Video card.. the drivers were better with the Ubuntu OS.. I just do not have Catalyst.. and video tweaks
[22:00] <amenado> Daat do you have an existing 7.10 running? would you like to try and boot the downloaded 8.04 iso from hd?
[22:00] <dystopianray> amenado: of course he's not trolling, he wants to know where his windows partition is mounted within ubuntu
[22:00] <strtok> ptn107: any idea what causes it?
[22:00] <gpled> central control of downloads is a bad idea
[22:00] <noodlesgc> ChrisVP server is overloaded
[22:00] <PhoenixP3K> Anyone else here is bummed out about Hardy Heron?
[22:00] <|jess|> drivetrax: But now, I can't reboot one of the old distros... :-(
[22:00] <ceil420> strtok, 8.04 Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or Xubuntu?
[22:00] <Mulder> PhoenixP3K, yes
[22:00] <CyberCod> PhoenixP3K: I'm a little
[22:00] <ceil420> needcdrom, np
[22:00] <strtok> ceil420: ubuntu, nvidia drivers
[22:00] <amerio> hey guys , I have atheros wireless card on my laptop , its in USE and enabled , but wireless aint working , can anybody help me pleaaase?
[22:00] <noodlesgc> PhoenixP3K i would be if i could get it installed
[22:00] <amenado> dystopianray-> just checking..
[22:00] <ChrisVP> noodlesgc: alright, thanks
[22:00] <ceil420> strtok, i blame Gnome <_<
[22:00] <DaaT> amenado, i had 7.10, but updated to 8.04 yesterday :P that's when the problems started
[22:00] <ptn107> strtok: i thought maybe my binary nvidia drivers. but even without them it still happens (even on my laptop)
[22:00] <giggsey> Is there anyway to stop pulseaudio crashing when I log into gdm?
[22:00] <sarah_bear> hmm dystopianray i can't play a mp3 using totem movie player
[22:00] <strtok> ceil420: it felt like a compiz feature
[22:00] <megatog615> anyone wanna tell me why there are no sound drivers?
[22:00] <drivetrax> |jess|:  -- dual booting two linux..then
[22:00] <sarah_bear> says something about suitable codec?
[22:00] <amenado> DaaT can you reboot back to 7.10?
[22:00] <ceil420> strtok, did you try disabling compiz? :o
[22:00] <pharoh> hey ya'll.is the new ubuntu release stable?as in is it safe for one to upgrade now,who's tried it so far?
[22:01] <n000b> ive got a window thats frozen and wont close. what should i do? is there a linux equivalent of control alt delete?
[22:01] <PhoenixP3K> noodlesgc, yeah it took all night to ugrade for me, and i'm a bit dissapointed
[22:01] <xkcdr0ckz> drivetrax: dunno if this is correct (got it from xorg.conf file)  --> "ATI Technologies Inc M10 NT [FireGL Mobility T2]"
[22:01] <CyberCod> I can't get this thing to show anything more than 800x600 using the nvidia-glx-new drivers
[22:01] <strtok> ceil420: i love it too much to disable it
[22:01] <dystopianray> sarah_bear: is this a a new problem or the same you were describing earlier?
[22:01] <GreenFuze> Hey everybody! Can anyone help me with a problem I got in the Hardy upgrade - my computer won't start....
[22:01] <DaaT> amenado, the only options at boot i have are 8.04 (with new and previous kernel)
[22:01] <drivetrax> xkcdr0ckz:  You may need the Mesa driver
[22:01] <ceil420> pharoh, it's been officially released, if that's what you mean. i wouldn't necessarily call ubuntu "stable" *cough*
[22:01] <daedra> !w32codecs
[22:01] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[22:01] <Mulder> compiz wont even work with open source radeon driver now but it will with fglrx (oh the irony).
[22:01] <ceil420> strtok, then live with it :p or figure out how to change it
[22:01] <meoblast> how do i upgrade Ubuntu from Gutsy to Hardy throught a CD.... my bios does not boot my only working CD Drive so i need to do it from my already installed Gutsy
[22:01] <|jess|> drivetrax: yes. Three linux
[22:01] <amenado> Daat previous kernel? as in previous 7.10 ?
[22:01] <ceil420> i prefer minimalism to glitz and glitter
[22:01] <noodlesgc> PhoenixP3K i cant even get to the "download packages" stage
[22:01] <meoblast001> is anyone here?
[22:01] <strtok> ceil420: i can totally live with it - just checking if anyone knows what it is
[22:01] <sarah_bear> its the sameone, but i think i fixed it dystopianray b installed GStreamer plugins
[22:01] <n000b> ive got a window thats frozen and wont close. what should i do? is there a linux equivalent of control alt delete?
[22:02] <strtok> ceil420: i don't like compiz for the glitz/glitter, it has functional features
[22:02] <drivetrax> Mulder:  it will.. it works with the Mesa driver, and some restricted ATI drivers
[22:02] <CyberCod> n000b you can hit alt+f2 and then type in xkill and hit enter.... then the next thing you click on will die
[22:02] <noodlesgc> n000b ctrl+alt+backspace
[22:02] <ceil420> n000b, killall <program name>
[22:02] <pharoh> ceil420: i know.have you tried it?
[22:02] <strtok> ceil420: window snapping, the "wall" feature, etc
[22:02] <xkcdr0ckz> drivetrax: where can i get the "Mesa" driver?
[22:02] <DaaT> amenado, believe so. It's... 2.24 I think (trying to recall from memory) and new is 2.26, or something. You probably know it better than I do :)
[22:02] <meoblast> how do i upgrade Ubuntu from Gutsy to Hardy throught a CD.... my bios does not boot my only working CD Drive so i need to do it from my already installed Gutsy ??
[22:02] <ompaul> n000b, xkill in a new terminal and then click on the offending program
[22:02] <PhoenixP3K> meoblast001, are you the same as meoblast?
[22:02] <jPratt> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege what the hell does that mean
[22:02] <dystopianray> n000b: press 'alt+f2' then type 'xkill', then click on the application you want to kill
[22:02] <ceil420> pharoh, tried compiz? my computer can't use it
[22:02] <Starnestommy> jPratt: put sudo before the command
[22:02] <jPratt> KK
[22:02] <drivetrax> xkcdr0ckz:  -- go to #compiz-Fusion, and tell'em your problem .. it affects compiz
[22:02] <Nevstah> hey everyone, any reason why i should be getting slow LAN speed since 8.04 upgrade? i get about 800KB/s up / 1MB/s down :(
[22:02] <amenado> DaaT then try to boot from the previous and we can probably load the new 8.04 from hard disk
[22:02] <ptn107> meoblast: correct, download and burn the alternate  cd and stick it in while running gutsy
[22:02] <Mulder> drivetrax, stock install picked up the 'ati' driver from xorg, and it refused to enable desktop effects with that despite xorg logs saying aiglx was enabled
[22:02] <RobinReborn> I can't update ubuntu, it doesn't work through the automatic way, so I run sudo apt-get install -f
[22:02] <daedra> !w32codecs
[22:02] <ubotu> The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[22:02] <xkcdr0ckz> k thx.
[22:02] <ubutom> meoblast: go to your bios and enable booting from cdrom
[22:03] <daedra> how do you get w32codecs?!
[22:03] <ceil420> strtok, snapping annoys me; i even turned it off in GIMP
[22:03] <CyberCod> !resolution
[22:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:03] <meoblast> PhoenixP3K: when i logged in under the network Ubuntu Servers..... it didnt display incomming messages
[22:03] <pharoh> ceil420: what?on ubuntu 8?that's it,am not upgrading.
[22:03] <ceil420> i don't know what you mean by 'wall'
[22:03] <jPratt> Thank you
[22:03] <CyberCod> !lowres
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lowres - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <drivetrax> Mulder:  right.. the driver needs to be Mesa
[22:03] <daedra> the link doesn't help for 8.04
[22:03] <RobinReborn> but it tells me I must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' , when I try that it tells me I need to be a superuser (which I think I am
[22:03] <ceil420> pharoh, lol my computer is old. it couldn't handle Beryl on 7.04
[22:03] <GNUtoo> what should i do...i passed the day trying to make the nvidia driver work
[22:03] <poseidon> !dualscreen
[22:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:03] <meoblast> ubutom: cant...... my internal CD drive is broken, external is not supported by bios to boot off of
[22:03] <Starnestommy> RobinReborn: put "sudo" before that command
[22:03] <Mulder> drivetrax, hmmm didnt it used to work with stock ati driver?
[22:03] <DaaT> amenado, will do. How do I go about booting the ISO from HDD?
[22:03] <PhoenixP3K> meoblast, oh i see
[22:03] <strtok> ceil420: "desktop wall"
[22:03] <meoblast> ptn107: do i need alternate, i have the regular installer
[22:03] <megatog615> Anyone here use 64-bit?
[22:03] <Richard> RobinReborn: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:03] <ceil420> strtok, you mean the wallpaper?
[22:04] <RobinReborn> thanks Richard!
[22:04] <ubutom> meoblast: so whats the sense in keeping a broken drive in your machine?
[22:04] <pharoh> ceil420: ah.but since i'm still a newbie(one en a half months now) guess i'll stick to 7.10 til i learn more:)
[22:04] <drivetrax> Mulder:  -- I dunno, I just got 7.10, and had this difficulty, and #Compiz-Fusion helped me run it down
[22:04] <ptn107> meoblast: i think you need the ubuntu-8.04-alternate-$ARCH.iso
[22:04] <strtok> ceil420: no, "desktop wall" - it's an addon for virtual desktops
[22:04] <meoblast> ubutom: too poor to buy a new one
[22:04] <strtok> makes it easy to drag windows between virtual desktops
[22:04] <Jeah> Can anybody help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy?  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  I just tried re-downloading and re
[22:04] <ubutom> meoblast: and how will it be able to access a cdrom you have?
[22:04] <PhoenixP3K> Can anyone confirm that there is transparency all around the windows that are inactive in Hardy?
[22:04] <ceil420> strtok, i can do that easily enough with my Enlightenment window manager :)
[22:04] <meoblast> ubutom: i just cant BOOT from it
[22:04] <meoblast> i have external
[22:05] <amenado> DaaT you have to mount the iso, then copy it over to a ext2 partition ext2 okay not ext3 and then put an entry on exisisting menu.lst for the new 8.04
[22:05] <LebLinux> hello, just upgraded to Hardy, and I noticed in Grub there is both kernels the 2.6.24 (default) and 2.6.22 any ideas why?
[22:05] <drivetrax> Many people are in here.. that might need to be in #compiz-Fusion.. with their Video card driver issues
[22:05] <meoblast> ptn107: that sux
[22:05] <ptn107> LebLinux: it keeps your old one just in case, though you can remove it if you want
[22:05] <Mulder> the other issue i've experienced which was a major bummer, was the gnome calendar hangs the gnome environment for me.
[22:05] <amenado> PhoenixP3K-> what is that? transparency meaning i cant see it?
[22:05] <LebLinux> ptn107: alright thank you.
[22:05] <drivetrax> Mulder:  -- gnome is at their site
[22:06] <DaaT> amenado, i'll look into it. But i have to say, when i boot into 7.10, there are no taskbars (top and bottom). Happened after yesterday's update
[22:06] <NicDumZ> Hi ! :) Yet another one of these hardy users without _any_ sound since upgrade. Google for vlc error outputs did not help; vlc-plugin-pulse _is_ installed. Any common hardy-sound FAQ / known issues page maybe ?
[22:06] <romanotp> How can I remove the old version of the kernel???
[22:06] <meoblast> i guess im f*cked
[22:06] <ceil420> Mulder, if all you need is to look at a basic calender, you can just type "cal" on the command line to see one
[22:06] <arooni> whats the name of a screenshot utility
[22:06] <arooni> for ubuntu
[22:06] <PhoenixP3K> amenado, well the borders become translucent. before it was only the top, but now it's all around the windows border
[22:06] <amenado> DaaT-> oh well, you tried to upgrade during the busiest period, most likely it did not complete
[22:06] <jbur2> romanotp: sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.list    Backup this file before editing this one.
[22:07] <DaaT> amenado, yay :)
[22:07] <drivetrax> DaaT:  did you click on the panel for the virtual desktops.. top right.
[22:07] <nucco> arooni just push the "prt scr" button
[22:07] <amenado> PhoenixP3K-> i dont notice it, it may be really transparent that it is hard to see
[22:07] <corbett> maxtor mini III 100 gb                 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:07] <ptn107> romanotp: sudo apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove linux-image-$(uname -r)
[22:07] <Mulder> ceil420, it's not that. i sometimes accidentally click on calendar since it's next to logout icon, and if do that then i need to use ctrl alt del or ctrl alt backspace to bring down the system
[22:07] <DaaT> drivetrax, nope. It happens as soon as it shows the desktop, without any user action
[22:07] <PhoenixP3K> amenado, do you have your desktop effects on normal or extra?
[22:07] <ceil420> Mulder, i recommend taking the calender off your panel if it's crashing X >_>
[22:08] <RobinReborn> does anybody have any idea why I see no progress when I am download package files for an update?
[22:08] <nucco> ptn107: are you aware that that will remove the currently running kernel?
[22:08] <ptn107> nucco: oh shi ya
[22:08] <drivetrax> DaaT:  All I could say is that either gnome is not right, or the desktop is still in a past session
[22:08] <Starnestommy> RobinReborn: a lot of the servers are overloaded
[22:08] <lifesf> hi; i have gotten rid of gutsy and have now installed hardy server but i get an error while [sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop]
[22:08] <Nevstah> any reason why i should be getting slow LAN speed since 8.04 upgrade? i get about 800KB/s up / 1MB/s down :(  or how i can diagnose?
[22:08] <cl> !RobinReborn: servers are getting hammered. Try another source
[22:08] <DaaT> drivetrax, looks like it, yes
[22:08] <Mulder> ceil420, yeah i might have to do that. guess i'll have to substitute with something like screenlets instead :S
[22:08] <ptn107> romanotp: scratch that replace $(uname -r) with the one you want to remove
[22:09] <amenado> PhoenixP3K-> normal
[22:09] <ceil420> Mulder, the CLI's "cal" is good enough for me :p
[22:09] <nucco> ptn107: probably best to just leave it there. the newest one is usually even the default...
[22:09] <joshua__> how do i find shared folders?
[22:09] <DaaT> amenado and drivetrax, thanks for the help. I'll keep trying to install from CD, though with it not accepting any user commands... *crosses fingers*
[22:09] <romanotp> ptn107:  thanx
[22:09] <drivetrax> DaaT:  I know, when I click the panel with my 4 virtual tops.. all task/panel applet bars go away
[22:09] <Vlet> Anyone know how to have samba auth against pam or kerberos instead of samba's built-in password db?
[22:09] <joshua__> where do i find Shared folders, that were in system-administration previousley
[22:09] <PhoenixP3K> amenado, last question, do you have the Human theme on?
[22:09] <Theo_> I have two harddrives. I can't boot into windows after installing ubuntu on the second harddrive. I can look inside the windows partition from ubuntu and see that everything is there. How do I get windows to boot?
[22:09] <DaaT> drivetrax *nod*
[22:09] <Steve^> Does the amd64 version support 32 bit apps? Am I going to have compatibility issues?
[22:09] <ptn107> romanotp: nucco is correct though, it only takes up about 74 mb so you can leave it be if you choose
[22:10] <joshua__> theo what version of windows?
[22:10] <hwilde> is there an scp equivalent flag to get ALL files, like cp -apR   ?   scp is missing the .bashrc and other hidden files
[22:10] <amenado> PhoenixP3K-> what indicator can i see to tell me it is that?  what clue?
[22:10] <joshua__> amd 64 is a pain for apps
[22:10] <ceil420> Theo_, press "ESC" while grub is loading on startup to see boot options
[22:10] <jbur2> Steve^ yes and yes
[22:10] <chroete> Can someone tell me in which deb xkb is?
[22:10] <DaaT> drivetrax, how to get them back? just in case that's what happened
[22:10] <joshua__> lots work but it is much more work
[22:10] <Steve^> jbur2, so I should just go with i386?
[22:10] <ubutom> Theo: Have you tried scrolling down at grub start?
[22:10] <jms1989> Is there a mirror of the ubuntu repos I can add to my sources?
[22:10] <rothchild> anyone got any tips for stopping xgl from spanking my processor quite so hard?
[22:10] <Theo_> i chaned the boot sequence to boot from the windows harddrive and it doesnt work
[22:10] <psych> is there a bug on gnome keyboard tool (hardy) ??
[22:10] <jbur2> Steve^, I'd say go with amd64.
[22:10] <amenado> PhoenixP3K-> from appearance preferences, i have human clearlooks
[22:10] <arcsky> none installed ubuntu from a usbstick?
[22:11] <xb3rt> whats the best iso burner for ubunutu that can do a .uif and .iso?
[22:11] <chubs730> nevstah: i'm not positive as to why that would be, but there seems to be a few bugs in the networking infrastructure for 8.04, so maybe file a bug report and see if updates don't fix the issue
[22:11] <hwilde> !usb | arcsky
[22:11] <ubotu> arcsky: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[22:11] <joshua__> where do i find "shared folders" that were previously in the system-> admin?
[22:11] <dbristow> xb3rt: I like k3b
[22:11] <psych> any thoughts?
[22:11] <jbur2> Steve^, but then that's me.  I'd rather make full use of the processor and be ready for the future instead of going backward.
[22:11] <Nevstah> chubs730: thanks
[22:11] <chubs730> nevstah: it could also be an incorrect driver for your networking card
[22:11] <joshua__> i would also say go 64 steve
[22:11] <amenado> nevsta ...  disturbing discovery, Hardy seem to lose settings in network-manager even if static ip addresses are set..one has to /etc/init.d/networking restart to get the route table activated
[22:11] <joshua__> i have it
[22:11] <drivetrax> DaaT:  ctrl+alt+tab
[22:11] <joshua__> 32 is slow ass
[22:11] <beniamino> does anyone know why the file http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts has not been updated for hardy?
[22:11] <DaaT> drivetrax, thanks :)
[22:11] <Steve^> jbur2/joshua__ if I can still use 32 apps, where do the problems lie? Drivers and plugins?
[22:11] <hwilde> amenado, pastebin your ifconfig route and /etc/network/interfaces please
[22:11] <arthur> Hi. Since ubuntu 8.04 I can't access remote to my 8.04 pc. I have got the same settings as with 7.10 on the "server" and tried different client (vncviewer, viagre)
[22:12] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[22:12] <arcsky> hwilde: that guide doesnt work
[22:12] <poseidon> Is there anyway to get faster download speeds by setting max packets per requests, MTU, etc?
[22:12] <ToM-x> Still busy here I see :)
[22:12] <ubutom> Theo_: Use Windows CD, repair console and do a fixmbr and fixboot
[22:12] <Stormx2> I've been trying to sort flash out for ages. If another music app is using the soundcard when firefox is started, I can't watch flash videos. They stop after 2 seconds and there's no sound, something I remember back from dapper. I've followed the wiki page on it (under !flash). I've install alsa-oss and set the firefoxrc. I've install libflash-mozplugin. It's all come to naught, and I'm at a loss as what to do next.... Also, once a flash video does
[22:12] <Stormx2>  play (which requires absolutely no other app using the sound card when firefox is started AND when the video plays) I have to restart firefox afterwards to be able to use other sound-producing apps. Help! :)
[22:12] <joshua__> you need to get 32 bit libraries for them
[22:12] <leo_rockw> how can i force apt not to update a package?
[22:12] <Nevstah> i'm connecting to network and internet fine
[22:12] <drivetrax> DaaT:  -- f1+  (search : panel ) select assistive tools
[22:12] <amenado> hwilde i have to kill you if I show you..hehehe..
[22:12] <hwilde> arcsky, sry that's all i've got - but it is official so it should work
[22:12] <joshua__> you can usually find them, but they are more work to install
[22:12] <hwilde> amenado, no share = no support :)
[22:12] <amenado> hwilde nothing special really, i just added it myself
[22:12] <Nevstah> chubs730: how do i check if i'm using right drivers?
[22:12] <amenado> hwilde no problem i dont need support.. :P
[22:12] <joshua__> ubuntu only keeps 64bit libraries you have to manually enter 32bit
[22:12] <chubs730> steve: i'm on 64bit and i run plenty of 32bit apps, it's pain free for the most part
[22:12] <DaaT> thanks drivetrax
[22:12] <hwilde> amenado, I bet it's your interfaces file tho
[22:13] <hwilde> is there an scp equivalent flag to get ALL files, like cp -apR   ?   scp is missing the .bashrc and other hidden files
[22:13] <amenado> hwilde am just stating what i discovered.. thats all
[22:13] <weefeller> theres no ndisgtk in hardy... and is ndiswrapper still screwed up in hardy?
[22:13] <hwilde> amenado, i'm sure it's your interfaces file ....
[22:13] <hwilde> !launchpad | amenado
[22:13] <amenado> hwilde my interface file is no different from what i have on my other 7.10
[22:13] <ubotu> amenado: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[22:13] <mo3> hi all
[22:13] <PhoenixP3K> amenado, oh ok - i don't know why mine looks strange. it's different from when I had Gusty on. I think i'll try re0installing compiz
[22:13] <joshua__> chubs is right, they can be quite pain free or a big pain, depends what you're looking for
[22:13] <GreenFuze> Hey, I'm kinda really stuck here after installing hardy, Can anyone help me here???
[22:13] <MRutter> hi, I'm getting this audio error when running a game called spring: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[22:13] <daemon3> For some reason, my update manager (now it's apitutude) doesn't say I need to upgrade.  What could be the problem?
[22:13] <MRutter> open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy
[22:13] <GreenFuze> Thanks!
[22:13] <Steve^> chubs730, which areas aren't ok? Is development work fine?
[22:13] <hwilde> !ask | GreenFuze
[22:13] <ubotu> GreenFuze: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[22:13] <lifesf> what is the ubuntu server channel name?
[22:13] <hwilde> !alsa | MRutter
[22:13] <ubotu> MRutter: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:13] <PhoenixP3K> Does anyone else have the translucent border issue after upgrading?
[22:13] <Bubble_tea> Can i have two user with english for one and chinese for another user 'language'?\
[22:14] <hwilde> Bubble_tea, yes language is set by profile
[22:14] <amenado> Bubble_tea-> why not? different locales ?
[22:14] <Starnestommy> lifesf: #ubuntu-server, but this channel also supports it
[22:14] <psych> is there a bug on gnome keyboard tool (hardy) ??
[22:14] <plik> hwilde: scp -r is recursicve, but iof you're not getting .files transfered it's prolly coz of your * wildcard  - try rsync -avz on the directory instead
[22:14] <chubs730> nevstah: you'd have to check your /etc/network/interfaces
[22:14] <instantsoup> hello there.
[22:14] <MRutter> hwilde: lol, must be a common problem to have a bot set up for that :P
[22:14] <leo_rockw> how can i force apt not to update a package?
[22:14] <leo_rockw> hello instantsoup
[22:14] <Bubble_tea> amenado, hwilde how would i do this?
[22:14] <hwilde> MRutter, yep but that's good news too bc there is a common fix
[22:14] <joshua__> does anyone know where they moved "Shared Folders" to? it was previously in System, Administration
[22:15] <chubs730> steve: there are only a few applications that just don't run, the only thing i can think of is blender, but with work you can still install blender
[22:15] <daedra> sn is the symlinking program right?
[22:15] <Starnestommy> daedra: ln -s
[22:15] <lifesf> ok... well... i just need help because i have no idea why [sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop] does not work on fresh install of ubuntu server hardy
[22:15] <hwilde> Bubble_tea, it's probably an option in System -> Admin -> Language Support
[22:15] <noodlesgc> FINALLY!! ok usefull INFO!! anyone upgrading using do-release-upgrade you MUST use the "-m desktop" switch
[22:15] <Bubble_tea> amenado, hwilde I checked and install Chinese supported Langauges however .
[22:15] <daedra> Starnestommy: ahh ok
[22:15] <Steve^> chubs730, that's no problem, I won't be using blender
[22:15] <Wirta-> hey is there somekind of force close option in ubuntu? my wine configuration window freezed
[22:15] <weefeller> !ndiswrapper
[22:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:15] <jbur2> noodlesgc: Why?
[22:15]  * test3r is getting nice, proper speed off the torrent right now. Hooray for the Desktop "LiveCD" for allowing me to test my hardware beFORE my *buntu dies! TY again guys for such a proper job. Can't wait to try the newest.
[22:15] <Bubble_tea> amenado, hwilde it only allow one default language for user..
[22:16] <chubs730> if anyone else is aware of problems (joshua?) for specific apps do speak up
[22:16] <hwilde> plik, ok I didn't think to use rsync duhh
[22:16] <ravi_> I have a UPS. Ubuntu displays the remaining charge correctly, but does not hibernate at the set critical point. I have checked the settings and they are OK. What could be the problem? This happens in Gutsy, Hardy as well.
[22:16] <joshua__> steve i would definitly say go 64 if you are doing development work, i think you can handle installing a couple libraries
[22:16] <instantsoup> i have a weird problem with pidgin. When i try to add an icq account it tells me the screen name must start with a letter/must be an email.  But it should be the icq number, right? And it shows the AIM symbol in the account manager
[22:16] <noodlesgc> jbur2 because otherwise it will turn you into a server
[22:16] <Starnestommy> Wirta-: hit alt+f2, enter "xkill", then click on the frozen window
[22:16] <Nevstah> chubs730: drivers arent shown in /etc/network/interfaces? just IP settings?
[22:16] <hwilde> Bubble_tea, have you made the three user accounts?
[22:16] <noodlesgc> jbur2 or just will not work
[22:16] <amenado> Bubble_tea-> i have to look around, since i dont use foreign chars.. look into SCMI perhaps
[22:16] <Steve^> joshua__, I hope so! :)   thanks
[22:16] <brakkvatn> instantsoup: Try choosing the green flower again :)
[22:16] <Bubble_tea> hwilde i made 2
[22:16] <hwilde> Bubble_tea, log in as the other one and change the language to Chinese
[22:16] <joshua__> i had some issue with epsxe but i got it working after about 20 minutes
[22:16] <giggsey> Is there anyway to stop audiopulse crashing when I log into gdm?
[22:16] <plik> hwilde: much easier - just take note of the trailing  / on source dir
[22:16] <Wirta-> thanks Starnestommy
[22:16] <amenado> Bubble_tea-> maybe SCIM..
[22:17] <nickrober> anyone having scratchy sound problems?
[22:17] <instantsoup> brakkvatn nope not that simple
[22:17] <arthur> Does anyone successfully use Remote Desktop with Ubuntu 8.04?
[22:17] <brakkvatn> instantsoup: What happens when you select it?
[22:17] <ToM-x> Who was it who asked about sharing folders?
[22:17] <yaroslav> this is madness but this is not sparta.. even european servers are slow as hell
[22:17] <EruditeHermit> hey, I tried upgrading to hardy, but the upgrade failed and when I try to login, I get a brown background. However, I am able to login via console. When I login with console, and try to do apt-get upgrade or apt-get -f install it says that dpkg-divert rename involves overwriting /sbin/depmod with different file, not allowed.
[22:17] <nonewmsgs> nickrober i had that trouble with builtin sound cards
[22:18] <alastair_> errr
[22:18] <nonewmsgs> nickrober regardless of OS
[22:18] <alastair_> bug reporting?
[22:18] <jms1989> The stupid ubuntu servers need to speed up. I need to download some packages.
[22:18] <chubs730> nevstah: you're right, sorry, i usually just compare the outputs of lsmod and lspci to make sure the correct drivers are in use
[22:18] <nickrober> nonewmsgs: oh well some people here including myself were having a scratchy sound problem in 8.04 and i just found the fix
[22:18] <Jeah> Can anybody help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy?  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  Compositing is off.  I tried re-do
[22:18] <instantsoup> like i said, i add or modify the account, choose icq and add everything, then i save it and it shows the account in the account manager as ICQ but with the AIM symbol next to it
[22:18] <nonewmsgs> nickrober: sweet :)
[22:18] <daemon3> Yesterday I tried to install Hardy, but I quit a little after I started downloading the packages.  No actual installs took place.  Now my update manager doesn't say I need to upgrade.  I tried apt-get clean, aptitude clearn, apt-get autoclean, and aptitude autoclean, but I still get the same resutls.  Why do you think this is?
[22:18] <dubby> hey anyone does hardy have a samba configuration gui?
[22:18] <instantsoup> and won't enable it
[22:18] <_ditoa> im installing hardy on my brand new dell :D
[22:19] <_ditoa> cant wait!
[22:19] <danage> dubby: nautilus
[22:19] <chubs730> nevstah: the actual location of them escapes me at the moment though
[22:19] <DanaG> Oh hey, anybody know why Gnome Power Manager no longer offers battery brightness control?
[22:19] <noodlesgc> _ditoa which model?
[22:19] <Scunizi> anyone using Gizmo? if so which version.. the .deb or the binary tarball?  (Gutsy/Hardy)
[22:19] <corbett> anyone got any tips on how to get my maxtor mini 111 external hard drive working on ubuntu - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:19] <Pilha> hello world
[22:19] <_ditoa> noodlesgc: i bought an inspiron 530N, it came with Ubuntu 7.10
[22:19] <yaroslav> BTW whats the deal with Gnome using Mono-built (!?) stuff full-on?
[22:19] <_boto> is there a gui front-end for gprof results file?
[22:19] <ToM-x> dubby: sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[22:19] <_ditoa> only got it this afternoon :)
[22:19] <brakkvatn> instantsoup: Sorry, I can't help you. Try asking over at #pidgin , they're usually friendly.
[22:20] <instantsoup> alright, thanks
[22:20] <noodlesgc> _ditoa cool, i bought my dell a while ago, an inspiron 1420n with 7.04
[22:20] <Zacaa> good evening :)
[22:20] <_ditoa> cool
[22:20] <_ditoa> i am SO impressed with ubuntu
[22:20] <Pilha> ppl, what's the file I edit to change grub's boot order?
[22:20] <jbur2> noodlesgc: broadcom?
[22:20] <Pilha> can't seem to remember that
[22:20] <_ditoa> although the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 killed it :(
[22:20] <brakkvatn> Who utters that word?
[22:20] <noodlesgc> jbur2 no, intel 3945 abg
[22:20] <doug2266778822> how do i make it where i can watch protected DvD's on my computer? i get an error message when i try toAn error occurred. Could not read from resource
[22:20] <brakkvatn> br**dcom
[22:20] <nuSharper> hi there. is there any diff between installing Ubuntu from the LiveDVD or the LiveCD? i mean, i know the DVD has more software, but is that extra software installed by default?
[22:20] <cardstroker> how do i stop ubuntu from trying to connect for updates that it cannot connect to?
[22:20] <_ditoa> there seems to be a bug as the hdd controller is set to IDE by default but i had to change it to RAID
[22:21] <chubs730> boto: google says xgprof
[22:21] <ToM-x> Pilha: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:21] <daemon3> My update manager doesn't tell me I need to upgrade.  Is anyone else having this problem?
[22:21] <jbur2> noodlesgc: lucky
[22:21] <Pilha> ok, menu.lst
[22:21] <_boto> oh thanks a lot chubs730
[22:21] <kindofabuzz> woot bcm wireless in Hardy!
[22:21] <|DuReX|> daemon3: try: apt-get update
[22:21] <noodlesgc> jbur2 yes it works quite well
[22:21] <Pilha> ToM, thx
[22:21] <ToM-x> No problem :)
[22:21] <ditoa> noodlesgc: switched back to my main account :)
[22:22] <MrObvious> !flash
[22:22] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:22] <Nevstah> chubs730: thanks
[22:22] <ditoa> but otherwise ubuntu is superb
[22:22] <drivetrax> remember Hardy is not an update,, it is an Upgrade
[22:22] <noodlesgc> daemon3 try sudo update-manager -d
[22:22] <jbur2> I digress.  Hardy is a clean install.
[22:22] <Scunizi> nuSharper: the DVD has ubutnu, kubuntu, xubuntu and related packages.. but not any more than what you would normally get if picking one of the versions and downloading the livecd
[22:22] <daemon3> |DuReX|: I did about 90 times.  I tried apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist upgrade, and combinations with aptitude.  I even tried apt-get/aptitude clean/autoclean.
[22:22] <ravi_> Is the kernel clocksource (tsc/hpet) problem solved in hardy?
[22:23] <Jeah> daemon3: Are you talking about security/recommended updates or the upgrade to Hardy?  It won't pop up a notification icon for the distro upgrade, you'll see that if you open update manager manually.  At the top it should say that a new version is available and give you the option of upgrading.
[22:23] <cardstroker> I'm a newby  and need some help.  right now at the command line it keeps trying to update and cannot connect, how do i stop it?
[22:23] <daemon3> drivetrax: I know.  I make a mistake of using them interchangeably.
[22:23] <b33r_> where is iced tea cache directory location?
[22:23] <hwilde> cardstroker, ctrl+c
[22:23] <mistapapa> hi all...
[22:23] <daemon3> noodlesgc: What would the -d command do?
[22:23] <hwilde> b33r_, sudo updatedb;   locate "iced tea"
[22:23] <cardstroker> ctrl-c, thank you.
[22:23] <ruewan> hello
[22:23] <nuSharper> Scunizi: thx!
[22:23] <ToM-x> cardstroke, elaborate.
[22:23] <ruewan> i think hardy heron is trying to kill my hard drive
[22:23] <drivetrax> I found on the Ubuntu Website about where/how to get 8.04.. But there are no documentations pages on their website
[22:23] <lewench> Anyone know in CompizConfig what the plugin is for the shadow color outside the window? For some reason mine is hot pink, it was not like that before patch =)
[22:23] <noodlesgc> daemon3 check for a new dist
[22:23] <DELU> hi where is Grub by BT3
[22:23] <gnuskool> external monitor resolution is still an issue, i see, mine is intel 855,
[22:24] <hwilde> drivetrax, go to the ubuntu wiki
[22:24] <chubs730> ruewan, explain?
[22:24] <hwilde> !wiki | drivetrax
[22:24] <ubotu> drivetrax: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[22:24] <meoblast001> hello
[22:24] <ruewan> my hard drive has been going non stop since installed it
[22:24] <_manny> Hi all :)
[22:24] <hwilde> DELU, /boot/grub
[22:24] <DELU> thx
[22:24] <mistapapa> my question: how can i run a shell skript at startup and wake up from hibernate that requires root... i need this to get my wlan up and running: sudo ifdown eth1 sudo ifup eth1
[22:24] <crimsun> ruewan: using Firefox 3.0b5?
[22:24] <daemon3> Jeah: I'm talking about upgrading to hardy.  I know it won't pop up a notification Icon.  I go into "Update Manager" and, even though I have Gutsy, it says that my system is up-to-date.
[22:24] <meoblast001> my update manager's upgrade button is taking too long to bring up the update wizard and apt-get dist-upgrade isnt working, what do i do?
[22:24] <hwilde> ruewan, type "top"  then hit capital C    that will show you the processes running sorted by cpu.
[22:24] <b33r_> hwilde, it didn't show anything :/
[22:24] <mohbana> hey guys, why aren't there any themes after i've installed emerald?
[22:24] <_manny> Anyone successfully compile Apache 1.3.41 on Ubuntu Server 7.10?
[22:24] <noodlesgc> ruewan it could be you tracker deamon indexing your HD
[22:24] <hwilde> !upgrade | daemon3
[22:24] <ubotu> daemon3: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:24] <lewench> Anyone know in CompizConfig what the plugin is for the shadow color outside the window? For some reason mine is hot pink, it was not like that before patch =)
[22:24] <hwilde> !themes | mohbana
[22:24] <ubotu> mohbana: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:25] <ruewan> how do i kill the deamon
[22:25] <daemon3> noodlesgc: I did that, too (check for a new dist)
[22:25] <chubs730> daemon3: look a little above that, it should say a new distribution is available
[22:25] <graingert> how can I stream sound with pulseaudio between two pc's?
[22:25] <corbett> >	anyone got any tips on how to get my maxtor mini 111 external hard drive working on ubuntu - var msg log as follows  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:25] <foosh> hello everyone
[22:25] <ToM-x> Hey
[22:25] <hwilde> daemon3, you have to follow the link from ubotu
[22:25] <hwilde> !upgrade | daemon3
[22:25] <ubotu> daemon3: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:25] <mohbana> why question is before i would get the themes automatically now where have they gone? this is a new instlal
[22:25] <foosh> i have a partition that i can't quit get to load right
[22:25] <mistapapa> how can i run a shell skript at startup and wake up from hibernate that requires root...??? i need this to get my wlan up and running: sudo ifdown eth1 sudo ifup eth1
[22:25] <drivetrax> Skipping versions is not advised and can cause a lot of damage to your installation.
[22:25] <ravi_> daemon3,  check the "Updates" tab in Software Sources system settings
[22:25] <nuSharper> another question, a given program that, when installed in Ubuntu, works out of the box without the need of extra configuration (due to codecs, let's say), would also work straight after the installation in Xubuntu?
[22:25] <lunartear> i have public key access working from user_x@host1 to userx@host2, but using the same public key on user_y@host2  goes directly to password auth, The key is silently failing for user_y?
[22:25] <crimsun> graingert: install padevchooser
[22:25] <daemon3> ubotu2: I've followed those directions.
[22:26] <hwilde> mistapapa, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file please
[22:26] <drivetrax> If you are using an earlier version, and want to 'skip' a version, the only safe way is to backup your data and do a fresh install, or to progressively upgrade to each successive version.
[22:26] <noodlesgc> nuSharper it should. the only way to be completely sure is to try
[22:26] <hwilde> lunartear, ssh -vvv    it will show you verbose output
[22:26] <romanotp> thanx guys for the help, see you soon
[22:26] <lunartear> hwilde ok
[22:26] <mistapapa> hwilde: kk
[22:26] <daemon3> chubs730: I know, it should.  But it doesn't.
[22:26] <noodlesgc> drivetrax i thought they made it possible to upgrade between LTS's
[22:26] <drivetrax> The LTS version is recommended for people in an environment (generally commercial/industrial) that want to keep the same version for a longer amount of time and do not require newer/faster/updated versions, but instead do not want things to change.
[22:26] <jpruskin> !lilo
[22:26] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[22:26] <graingert> crimsun: already installed
[22:27] <mohbana> why question is before i would get the themes automatically now where have they gone? this is a new instlal
[22:27] <Swian> how do I rollback to 7.10
[22:27] <foosh> http://pastebin.com/d678f8b6c
[22:27] <ruewan> ok
[22:27] <hwilde> lunartear,  you probably have to install the key in user_Y:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:27] <drivetrax> To find your Ubuntu version:
[22:27] <drivetrax> lsb_release -a
[22:27] <foosh> thats my fstab
[22:27] <ruewan> now what?
[22:27] <noodlesgc> Swian clean install is your only option
[22:27] <foosh> my /dev/hda1 won't load up correctly
[22:27] <hwilde> !themes | mohbana
[22:27] <ubotu> mohbana: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[22:27] <foosh> it wants everyone to be root
[22:27] <chubs730> daemon3: odd, and apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing??
[22:27] <lunartear> hwilde, i did that
[22:27] <daemon3> chubs730: Right.  It doesn't do anything.
[22:27] <Swian> really because it stated on the ubuntu site you could uninstall
[22:27] <foosh> its ext3 and i've just had defaults on in the past to successful rw for all users
[22:27] <foosh> its just a storage partition
[22:27] <Jeah> Can anybody help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy?  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  Compositing is off.  I tried re-do
[22:27] <hwilde> chubs730, he has to change his repos in /etc/apt/sources.list   he needs to follow instructions from ubotu
[22:27] <Steve^^> Hi, my laptop just froze and the num lock / caps lock lights just started flashing... any idea what's up?
[22:28] <noodlesgc> daemon3 try this: sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop
[22:28] <crimsun> graingert: choose Applications> Sound & Video> PulseAudio Device Chooser, then left-click the notification icon and choose Configure local server
[22:28] <hwilde> !mount | foosh
[22:28] <ubotu> foosh: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[22:28] <nuSharper> noodlesgc: reason why i asked is beause i wanna try a lighter distro but i wouldnt do it if that means extra hassles with the programs hat i already learnt how to deal with.
[22:28] <b33r_> how can I change iced tea java cache directory?
[22:28] <Pilha> cool, so I've got my boot order right
[22:28] <kindofabuzz> for those of you that have broadcom chips wireless, all i did was edit /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist, add blacklist b43 and blacklisttssb and uncomment blacklist bcm43xx, reboot, boom i have wireless
[22:28] <mohbana> hwilde: i hope i was clear, why aren't they any themes to start of with?
[22:28] <graingert> crimsun: it it possible to stream over the internet?
[22:28] <chuy_max> hi, I had hardy heron beta installed, now I wanted to upgrade to stable via update-manager, but I get a message telling me that "Not all updates can be installed", any ideas?
[22:28] <MRutter> hwilde: those troubleshooting guides don't seem to apply. Spring uses openal, which defaults to using OSS. under 7.10 Spring worked fine, but with 8.04 it only works if its the only audio application running. If another audio application is running I get this error: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[22:28] <hwilde> mohbana, you have to install the themese yourself
[22:28] <MRutter> open /dev/[sound/]dsp: Device or resource busy
[22:28] <graingert> crimsun: via ssh etc
[22:28] <Pilha> I have a question about linux-rt
[22:28] <crimsun> graingert: I just told you the menu you need to choose.
[22:28] <mohbana> hwilde: why? in gusty they would come with emerald
[22:28] <drivetrax> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[22:28] <crimsun> MRutter: pasuspender -- Spring
[22:28] <hwilde> MRutter, right, only one app can access the hardware at a time :/
[22:28] <noodlesgc> nuSharper xfce is easy to get used to, just boot off a live cd and try it out, or install the xubuntu-desktop package from the repo
[22:29] <hwilde> mohbana, this isn't gusty anymore!
[22:29] <GreenFuze> Hi, my hardy heron get stuck when the login window should pop-up.  instead, nothing happens
[22:29] <cardstroker> how do i shutdown from the command line?
[22:29] <Pilha> I had installed (via Synaptic) linux-rt in Ubuntu7.10; after upgrade to 8.04 I find myself with too many linuxes to boot from, it seems
[22:29] <graingert> crimsun: that's all enabled
[22:29] <crimsun> hwilde: no, that's due to the way pulseaudio is configured, which I'm attempting to alter for 8.04.1.
[22:29] <chuy_max> is it safe to upgrade?
[22:29] <mistapapa> hwilde: i've sent you an im
[22:29] <mistapapa> hwilde: did you get it?
[22:29] <daemon3> noodlesgc: It appears to be frozen when I run do-release-upgrade
[22:29] <kindofabuzz> for those of you that have broadcom chips wireless, all i did was edit /etc/modepok just did sucessful upgrade, but my grub still lists 7.10 for this drive, how can i fix that?
[22:29] <covalent> cardstroker: use 'shutdown -h now'
[22:29] <nael> This might be a silly question but, I have the release candidate for hardy are there any advantages for me to install the hardy that came out on the 24th?
[22:30] <foosh> any takers?
[22:30] <kindofabuzz> ooops
[22:30] <noodlesgc> daemon3 at which step
[22:30] <crimsun> graingert: and in Preferences?
[22:30] <drivetrax> You Use Update Manager to Check for Updates.. get them, then a window should open, and tell you Hardy is available.. click Upgrade
[22:30] <kindofabuzz> for those of you that have broadcom chips wireles just did sucessful upgrade, but my grub still lists 7.10 for this drive, how can i fix that?
[22:30] <kindofabuzz> damnit
[22:30] <EruditeHermit> hey, I tried upgrading to hardy, but the upgrade failed and when I try to login, I get a brown background. However, I am able to login via console. When I login with console, and try to do apt-get upgrade or apt-get -f install it says that dpkg-divert rename involves overwriting /sbin/depmod with different file, not allowed.
[22:30] <graingert> crimsun: all checked
[22:30] <noodlesgc> nael no, the newer Hardy is more stable and is supported
[22:30] <kindofabuzz> sucessful upgrade, but my grub still lists 7.10 for this drive, how can i fix that?
[22:30] <spartanii117> chuy_max: i have successfully upgraded both a 32bit systems without a problem
[22:30] <b33r_> how can I change iced tea java cache directory?
[22:30] <GreenFuze> EruditeHermit - I got the same problem!
[22:30] <fredmv> Hardy is like using win an an operating system form.
[22:30] <Pilha> all they're all named Ubuntu 8.04 by Grub, but I have kernels 2.6.24-16-rt, 2.6.24-16-generic and 2.6.24-14-rt (all with and w/o recovery mode)
[22:30] <pagoda> is the bookmarks file for firefox 3 beta 5 in the same place as firefox 2?
[22:31] <cardstroker> covalent, says "Need to be root."
[22:31] <daemon3> noodlesgc: "Checking for new Ubuntu Release"
[22:31] <fiz1> hey everybody, my synaptic is having problems downloading repositorys,
[22:31] <Ntemis>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY fedora
[22:31] <graingert> pagoda: yes
[22:31] <EruditeHermit> GreenFuze: did you workaround it?
[22:31] <nael> noodlesgc: thanks
[22:31] <MRutter> crimsun: well that kinda works, but all it does is stop sound mixing and gives priority to spring
[22:31] <keymoo> is it possible to upgrade from the CD? i have burnt a hardy CD - can I upgrade my desktops with that?
[22:31] <drivetrax> Upgrading using the alternate CD/DVD - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[22:31] <covalent> cardstroker: use 'sudo shutdown -h now' and your password.
[22:31] <noodlesgc> daemon3 yes i got that too for a while. i just hit ctrl+c and chose a different server
[22:31] <GreenFuze> nope, really stuck here...
[22:31] <pagoda> graingert: ie, ~/.mozilla/firefox/423hg5k.default/bookmarks.html?
[22:31] <chuy_max> spartanii117, did you read my first message?
[22:31] <Ntemis> hello
[22:31] <Pilha> booting 2.6.24-16-generic worked fine, but 2.6.24-16-rt froze before log in screen even showed up
[22:31] <spartanii117> keymoo: yes, but you need the alternate cd
[22:31] <Ntemis> i need some help please
[22:31] <graingert> pagoda oh I thought you meant the shortcut
[22:32] <livingdaylight> does one need to install anything extra to get the cube?
[22:32] <noodlesgc> keymoo yes, to a certain extent. type gksu sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade
[22:32] <Ntemis> after i type
[22:32] <Pilha> any hints? maybe just reinstalling linux-rt via Synaptic?
[22:32] <Ntemis> apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[22:32] <Ntemis>  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg libxine1-ffmpeg libdvdread3
[22:32] <livingdaylight> how do i get the cube?
[22:32] <Ntemis> ask foe y/n and i press Y and says abort
[22:32] <pagoda> graingert, so you don't know?
[22:32] <drivetrax> livingdaylight:  get into #compiz-fusion
[22:32] <keymoo> thanks
[22:32] <daemon3> noodlesgc: I was actually running aptitude at the same time.  I'll try it again.  Thanks for your help by the way.  I can tell it's a hectic day in IRC.
[22:32] <fiz1> livingdaylight, that is an option you can apply in advanced desktop settings
[22:32] <ravi_> livingdaylight, you need to isntall Compiz Config advanced settings manager
[22:32] <graingert> pagoda: no lol
[22:32] <Ntemis> in hardy heron
[22:32] <pagoda> graingert, ok thanks heh
[22:32] <tawt> !wifi
[22:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:32] <corbett> anyone got any tips on how to get my maxtor mini 111 external hard drive working on ubuntu - var msg log as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:33] <MRutter> hwilde: you have any idea hwilde, or do you know where I could go to where someone would know?
[22:33] <noodlesgc> daemon3 yes it is
[22:33] <jpruskin> I'm trying to install/configure LILO, and have opened my etc/fstab file, but it contains barely anything, and certainly nothing like the example- how daring can I be in attempting to change it?
[22:33] <livingdaylight> ravi_, is that in synaptic?
[22:33] <cardstroker> covalent, got it, thanks!
[22:33] <livingdaylight> fiz1, is that under settings?
[22:33] <ravi_> livingdaylight, yes
[22:33] <doug2266778822> i have a brand new dvd player and it playes cd's fine and played jaws dvd just fine but i put in a brand new dvd and i get this error "An error occurred. Could not read from resource." please help me fix this.
[22:33] <doug2266778822> i am on ubuntu gnome 8.04.
[22:33] <moveax> What's the best way to get the relevant libs and required codecs for playing DVD on Ubuntu? I'm used to Fedora 8 so I'm a little lost.
[22:33] <Bubble_tea> hwilde thx
[22:33] <ToM-x> You know people. it would be nice to have apci working on my laptop..but lifes a bitch and I'm pissing in the wind :P
[22:33] <noodlesgc> ok good luck everyone i have to leave
[22:33] <covalent> cardstroker: -h = halt  -r = restart for your information. and you're welcome
[22:33] <fiz1> livingdaylight, you have to download compiz advanced settings manager, you can get that in the add/remove applications
[22:34] <lunartear> hwilde its saying debug1: Trying private key: /home/userX/.ssh/id_dsa     debug3: no such identity: /home/userX/.ssh/id_dsa    debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method   when issuing the command userX$  ssh -vvv userY@host2.com
[22:34] <Steve^^> my 7.10 just died for no reason. Any logs I can read? (I think the kernal paniced)
[22:34] <drivetrax> moveax:  -- the gstreamer, get it going for media
[22:34] <noodlesgc> daemon3 i have to leave, but keep trying
[22:34] <kindofabuzz> sucessful upgrade, but my grub still lists 7.10 for this drive, how can i fix that?
[22:34] <daemon3> noodlesgc: It's owkring now, I think.  Thanks.
[22:34] <kindofabuzz> what's the command to see kernel version?
[22:34] <hwilde> lunartear, ok so yeah it is not finding the local side of the key
[22:34] <ruewan> is there a way to tell what process is reading from my hard drive?
[22:34] <bastid_raZor> i upgraded to heron and now my monitor(actually it is my tv) is Not supported.. i'm getting failed modules in nvidia_new and nvidia_legacy  i have a pastebin of .xsession-errors and my xorg at :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64427/
[22:34] <doug2266778822> moveax: i as well am lost i have done million of things and on same distro as you.
[22:34] <nucco> Steve^^ did you notice unusual disk activity before it died? (that is, was it running?)
[22:34] <hwilde> MRutter, I do not think you wil be able to have two processes access the sound card at the same time
[22:35] <hwilde> ruewan, type "top"  then hit capital C    that will show you the processes running sorted by cpu.
[22:35] <tanya> hello
[22:35] <chuy_max> Hi, I installed Hardy Heron Beta a couple of weeks ago today I wanted to update my system, but I get "Not all updates can be installed", what's up with that?
[22:35] <EruditeHermit> GreenFuze: I seem to have managed to workaround it. I will let you know once it is done if it worked
[22:35] <lunartear> hwilde, the same key works for userX@host2.com
[22:35] <SkaBeat> hi
[22:35] <Steve^^> nucco, I had just plugged in a memory stick and the power cord when it went.
[22:35] <nwillett> Should there be a bunch of updates waiting in the update manager after I install 8.04. I installed, went to check update manager and it said everything was up to date but I can't tell if that's the truth or if it's just that the servers are fubared.
[22:35] <tiax> Hi, after upgrading to hardy yesterday, some programs won't start or some action will faile (e.g. accessing sftp locations in nautilus) due to "ressources" being "temporarily not available", even when I start new shells it gives me "cannot fork: ressource temporarily unavailable"
[22:35] <hwilde> lunartear, can you pastebin you terminal output?
[22:35] <MRutter> hwilde: But i was able to do that in all the previous releases of ubuntu
[22:35] <SkaBeat> im tryng to do a fresh install of 8.04 but when booting from my laptop get : initt: respawwning too fast, stopped
[22:35] <SkaBeat> wats wronbg with it=? :S
[22:35] <hwilde> MRutter, there is an #alsa channel
[22:36] <nucco> Steve^^: are you sure that it is ubuntu that died, and not your main board?
[22:36] <zoommy99> does anyone know how to get XFI sound to work in Hardy
[22:36] <Pilha> hi ppl, can anyone give me some hints about an rt kernel?
[22:36] <tiax> what's happening here? It's not about RAM, is it? I have 3 GB + 3GB Swap
[22:36] <MRutter> hwild: ok, I'll give that a shot
[22:36] <Pilha> (namely 2.6.24-16-rt)
[22:36] <periscope> hi, somehow I seem to have borked my sound again. I was trying to do the libflashsupport fix for the flash nosound bug, and now I have no sound for anything at all
[22:36] <josh04> Anyone here with detailed knowledge of debugging sleep?
[22:36] <lunartear> hwilde, of just userX@host1 to userY@host2?
[22:36] <ruewan> nothing suspicious there
[22:36] <periscope> I also have no sound in the sound test thing, even though I know it is not muted and etc, and also amarok freezes when I play a song
[22:36] <ravi_> josh04, whats the problem?
[22:36] <tawt> !pastebin
[22:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[22:36] <livingdaylight> fiz1, Advanced Effects Settings?
[22:36] <hwilde> lunartear, do ssh -v to the one that works, then ssh -v to the one that doesn't work, and pastebin the whole thing
[22:36] <keit1> well... just copied my old backup home folder from an external to my current home folder and now everything is ballsed up. presume my permissions ahve gone carzy (even though its same user name et al) so how do I fix this as hardly any programs start and when I try to chown it keeps feeding back this error chown: cannot access `/home/keito/.gvfs': Permission denied
[22:36] <Steve^^> nucco, everything froze, the numlock and capslock lights flashed on and off. No commands worked, not even REISUB (though I don't know if that ever works)
[22:36] <hwilde> !sound | periscope
[22:36] <ubotu> periscope: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:36] <lunartear> hwilde ok
[22:36] <doug2266778822> moveax: i even made a post on ubuntu forum for it but no one seems to want to answer this question.
[22:37] <ravi_> livingdaylight, you may need to add additional software sources. search for CCSM on web
[22:37] <mark_> hi. anyone know how to get rid of kde if installed thru synaptec without having to uninstall every goddam thing individually?!
[22:37] <moveax> doug2266778822: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats <- this any good?
[22:37] <livingdaylight> ravi_, i see ccsm in Add/Remove
[22:37] <keit1> this is the command i used to try to get my permissions back ... chown: cannot access `/home/keito/.gvfs': Permission denied
[22:37] <moveax> mark_: remove kdebase
[22:37] <hwilde> keit1, sudo chown
[22:37] <nucco> Steve^^: I mean, is the system booting at all? the bios. not that I can help though, my own 7.10 just packed up today, showed unusual load, I had to power-cycle, then, that was it.
[22:37] <moveax> mark_: everything kde depends on it
[22:37] <kindofabuzz> major problem here, somehow the upgrade didn't update my grub, so i am now running Hardy on the gutsy kernel, how can i fix that?
[22:37] <Lyk4n> #xkcd-signal
[22:37] <fiz1> lvingdaylight, yes, just search for compiz in the add/remove apps program, it should show up, select and install it and then open it via system>preferences>advanced settings manager
[22:37] <doug2266778822> moveax: nope i done that as well nothing worked.
[22:38] <josh04> ravi_: Goes to sleep, doesn't wake up. Hard crashes before the hard disk is spun up again
[22:38] <mark_> will that keep all the apps tho?
[22:38] <drivetrax> ravi_:  -- yes.. if you have no Advanced settings.. then install ccsm.. i tried to tell folks that the nice ppl in #Compiz-Fusion, are there to help
[22:38] <hwilde> !fixgrub | kindofabuzz
[22:38] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:38] <mark_> dont want them :)
[22:38] <tawt> can anyone please tell me what wireless card I have?  Here is the output of lspci  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64429/
[22:38] <keit1> ﻿hwilde: this is what i put ... sudo chown -R keito:keito /home/keito
[22:38] <Wirta-> I have installed ubuntustudio:s audio packages to normal ubuntu version, is there a way to unistall those? it kinda fucks up my sound device
[22:38] <Steve^^> nucco, oh it works again now, I'm doing everything I normally do
[22:38] <donomo> ive got 'Desktop Cube' and 'Rotate Cube' turned on, but ctl-alt-rightarrow does a 2d flip instead of a 3d cube. any ideas?
[22:38] <moveax> mark_: no, because kde-based applications require kdebase.
[22:38] <mark_> ok cool.  thnx
[22:38] <keit1> ﻿hwilde: why is this not working! (damn you gnome vfs!!!)
[22:38] <hwilde> keit1, that is correct.  don't typo your password
[22:38] <ravi_> drivetrax, thanks
[22:38] <tawt> donomo, ctl-alt left click
[22:38] <ravi_> josh04, hmm cant help you there sorry
[22:38] <keit1> ﻿hwilde: password is correct
[22:38] <periscope> I have no sound after trying to do the libflashsupport and nspluginwrapper fixes for flash sound, and now amarok crashes when I play a song and there is no test sound
[22:38] <nucco> Steve^^ cool. me, I had to do a clean install... fsck was telling me to go get a new HDD :p
[22:38] <hwilde> keit1, try /home/keito/*
[22:38] <periscope> and yes, the right device is selected and no, it is not muted
[22:38] <donomo> tawt: ohh i had only 2 desktops. hard to make a cube with 2 faces!
[22:38] <keit1> ﻿hwilde: k
[22:38] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: i think it's more complex than that probly
[22:39] <josh04> ravi_: That's fine, I'm beginning to think no-one and nothing can :P
[22:39] <nibsa1242b> tawt: I don't see one listed there. Is the wireless card turned on?
[22:39] <drivetrax> donomo:  ----- You need to also have switching enabled, and 3 virtual desktop in your panel
[22:39] <drivetrax> 3 or more
[22:39] <graingert> donomo: disable desktop wall
[22:39] <hwilde> kindofabuzz, those instructions will rebuild your grub...
[22:39] <donomo> ive got it now, thanks. needed more than 2 desktops
[22:39] <tawt> nibsa1242b  hmm...  lol  no
[22:39] <tawt> let me retry
[22:39] <Steve^^> nucco, that's not ideal! (Ironically, I just ordered a new HDD to put 8.04 on, I drop my laptop too much to expect the current one to last forever)
[22:39] <donomo> damn this is fun.
[22:40] <drivetrax> yah.. two desktops flipping back and forwards.. ehehe
[22:40] <nucco> Steve^^ my laptop is two weeks old, sadly...
[22:40] <nibsa1242b> tawt: try turning it on, and then doing an lspci
[22:40] <mark_> i'm such a linux newbie  -  & loving the ride!  what a revelation :)
[22:40] <sanozuke> does anyone know's perl
[22:40] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: and i thought my wireless was working with hardy, well it is, but now i know it doesn't work because of the kernel with hardy since i'm running hardy on gutsy kernel, i guess i confused it by having hardy already on another partition
[22:40] <GreenFuze> EruditeHermit: thanks alot mate!
[22:40] <keit1> ﻿hwilde: by jove. i think thats done it!
[22:40] <donomo> omg this is f-ing cool
[22:41] <tawt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64430/  <nibsa1242b>
[22:41] <Steve^^> nucco, is it actually broken then? or did it just think it was broken?
[22:41] <nucco> kindofabuzz: reboot, and select the hardy kernel...
[22:41] <ruewan> tears
[22:41] <Wirta-> ﻿ have installed ubuntustudio:s audio packages to normal ubuntu version, is there a way to unistall those? it kinda fucks up my sound device
[22:41] <drivetrax> Actually.. a desktop that Flys in from the left.. in triangles, and lands in a space into a forward looking line of four desktops is cool.. and functional
[22:41] <hwilde> kindofabuzz, fix your grub and boot hte correct kernel
[22:41] <nucco> Steve^^ I think the format caused the device to remap the bad block to a reserved one, eitherway, if it happens again, I'm calling support.
[22:41] <demonspork> !ohmy Wirta-
[22:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy wirta- - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:41] <demonspork> gar
[22:41] <keit1> ﻿Wirta-:  sudo apt-get remove (said packages)
[22:41] <hwilde> kindofabuzz, hal changed so they're not easily backwards compatible
[22:41] <Pilha> ppl, can anyone help with real-time kernels?
[22:41] <Steve^^> nucco, who makes the laptop?
[22:41] <hwilde> !rtlinux | Pilha
[22:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rtlinux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:41] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: but if i select the hardy kernel that's not the partiton i want
[22:41] <hwilde> Pilha, look for rtlinux
[22:42] <rhavenw> hi
[22:42] <keit1> ﻿Wirta-:  even sudo apt-get purge will do nicely and take all setting too
[22:42] <nibsa1242b> tawt: I still don't see one... lsusb?
[22:42]  * hwilde stares at kindofabuzz 
[22:42] <nucco> Steve^^ HP, ironically, its their expensive "business" machines...
[22:42] <Pilha> !linux-rt
[22:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-rt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:42] <ruewan> does top show what is reading the hard drive?
[22:42] <Pilha> hmm
[22:42] <hwilde> !info rtlinux | Pilha
[22:42] <ubotu> pilha: Package rtlinux does not exist in hardy
[22:42] <nucco> ruewan: tracker uses the hard drive a lot.
[22:42] <doug2266778822> moveax: if you find the answer out you let me know please? in #wwed as for i am going afk for awhile.
[22:42] <hwilde> Pilha, I guess the bot doesn't know but look for rtlinux
[22:42] <nucco> ruewan: but its mostly harmless if you've got a dual core cpu
[22:42] <fiz1> livingdaylight, another thing you might want to look at is system>preferences>appearance and then the tab visual settings
[22:42] <tawt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64431/  <nibsa1242b>
[22:42] <jburd> fbc: Hardy clean install.  No display, no gdm, no login screen.
[22:42] <ruewan> i don't want my hard drive to die i want to kill tracker instead
[22:42] <Pilha> hwilde: ok, will do
[22:43] <jburd> Hardy is a waste of time.
[22:43] <anteatersa> Hey I just updated to Hardy Heron... I though there was sposed to be some new admin tool for setting up video card but I can't see it
[22:43] <fiz1> livingdaylight: you need to have extra selected
[22:43] <demonspork> !ohmy | Wirta-
[22:43] <ubotu> Wirta-: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:43] <Jeah> Can anybody help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy?  Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations.  It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black.  I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible.  Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine.  Compositing is off.  I tried re-do
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: i had this partiton with guty and another with hardy, just updated this gutsy, but it didn't put the new kernel in grub for this partiton, this part still says 7.10
[22:43] <Pilha> there is a linux-rt package in synaptic, my problem is at boot time with it
[22:43] <anteatersa> and the old tool has dissapeared as well
[22:43] <keit1> ahhh, forgot to make an evoltuion back before refoematting but _did_ backup my home folder.  it still appears to want to start afresh now I try to launch it... any help!???
[22:43] <Pilha> will study more
[22:43] <radioman> hardy is perfect, fire making, so cool ;} ftp://ctv-79-132-160-134.vinita.lt/Ftp/Share/rec.ogg
[22:43] <fbc> jburd, what kinda motherboard do you have??
[22:43]  * Lifeisfunny is here to see if he can pick up some new tips.
[22:43] <fbc> jburd, or computer?
[22:43] <SyaZ> My laptop have wireless card, but on System -> Administration -> Network there's no wireless connection, only "Wired Connection". What should I do?
[22:43] <Ben225> I'm having trouble upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. It seems to download files VERY slowly and quit at a different point each time I try it. Is there something wrong with Canonical's servers?
[22:43] <hwilde> jburd, hit ctrl+alt+f1   can you get to the terminal ?
[22:43] <jburd> fbc: ASUS M2N VM DH with an nvidia 6100 graphics card with an AMD X2 dual core processor
[22:43] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: i'm gonna delete the other partition with hardy and reinstall grub and hope it fixes it
[22:43] <jburd> hwilde: yes I can
[22:44] <nucco> SyaZ: turn on the wireless first?
[22:44] <calc> Ben225: too many people downloading at one time
[22:44] <hwilde> SyaZ, what kind of wireless card
[22:44] <amenado> !slow | Ben225
[22:44] <donomo> Ben225: the package mirrors are getting hammered
[22:44] <ubotu> Ben225: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[22:44] <hwilde> kindofabuzz, or you could follow the fixgrub instructions from ubotu
[22:44] <hwilde> !fixgrub | kindofabuzz
[22:44] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[22:44]  * calc is trying to download a package to check out a bug and can't even get that off a mirror at a decent speed, heh
[22:44] <drivetrax> livingdaylight:  First - right click the desktop, and get backgrounds..set, click Visual effects tab
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> wel that's what i mean
[22:44] <jburd> fbc: Gutsy loaded *perfectly* fine.  I don't know what Hardy has done to break all of that.
[22:44] <Styrbjorn> hmm has vmware been removed from the ubuntu repro in the latest upgrade?
[22:44] <fbc>  jburd which CD did you use?
[22:44] <nibsa1242b> tawt: wow... I don't see anything
[22:44] <drivetrax> livingdaylight:  try to set "Custom"
[22:44] <kindofabuzz> hwilde: i may just stick with this kernel since my wireless works on it
[22:44] <fbc> jburd, alternative or desktop?
[22:44] <jburd> fbc: I used the alternate disc to install because the live cd did the same thing as the installation.
[22:45] <ruewan> think i found how to kill tracker
[22:45] <kindofabuzz> hardy on gutsy kernel, working good so far
[22:45] <billisnice> my puter says i have 500+ updates for 8.04
[22:45] <livingdaylight> drivetrax, i got it set to 'extra'
[22:45] <CorbinFox> is there a command to switch all the windows in one desktop to another all at once?  Like, i have firefox and pidgin open in desktop 1, can i press a command to make them all move to Desktop 2?
[22:45] <nucco> jburd: if the livecd didn't boot fine, you probably shouldn't have installed
[22:45] <tawt> nibsa1242b, I think it might be Realtek
[22:45] <Mustard_Is_Blue> anybody know anything about acpi?
[22:45] <SyaZ> hwilde, I don't really know what kind, but it's Acer Travelmate 2355 and 802.11b/g wireless LAN.
[22:45] <nucco> ruewan: please don't kill tracker. just go disable it.
[22:45] <alastor666> bonne nuit recycled :)
[22:45] <jburd> nucco: Both upgrading and clean installs failed.
[22:45] <NicDumZ> No sound since upgrade to hardy, with HDA Intel. Backports are on. I tried several fixes, installing pulseaudio, vlc-plugin-pulse, none of these helped. Alsamixer volume is up... Where can I look now ???
[22:45] <darren_> hi i need help getting video's to run in firefox
[22:45] <fbc> jburd,  right,, so when you get a blank screen is the hard drive still going??
[22:45] <ruewan> disabled it in the session options
[22:45] <amenado> billisnice-> i would not doubt it
[22:45] <dumnut> hi, i am installing kubuntu8.04amd64, in partition it said to partition for root, but scroll down only has choices for ext3 ext2 reiserfs jfs xfs fat16 fat32 swap and dontuse, where do i go to select root?
[22:45] <livingdaylight> drivetrax, there is 'none' 'normal' and 'extra'
[22:45] <delphi> does anyone know why.. when I log into my ubuntu server and I get prompted for my username, it takes a good few seconds before I get asked for my password?
[22:45] <jburd> fbc: yeah
[22:46] <ruewan> my hard drive is still going
[22:46] <hwilde> SyaZ, type in "lspci -v"   do any of those seem like wireless to you
[22:46] <drivetrax> livingdaylight:  -- if it is extra, you may need to try to look at your video card driver.. change them to get the Custom.. and set preferences
[22:46] <lunartear> hwilde: http://nopaste.snit.ch/12819
[22:46] <nucco> jburd: I mean if the livecd didn't boot fine, you shouldn't have upgraded or something.
[22:46] <Pilha> ok another totally unrelated question: can I change the size of icons on the desktop like I do in a folder window? if so, how?
[22:46] <Starnestommy> delphi: select ext3 as the type and / as the mount point
[22:46] <fbc> jburd, ok you just may not have a splash screen... I had that case with my laptop but it did give me a login after a while
[22:46] <Starnestommy> er...
[22:46] <corbett> anyone got any tips on how to get my maxtor mini 111 external hard drive working on ubuntu - var msg log as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:46] <Starnestommy> dumnut: select ext3 as the type and / as the mount point
[22:46] <alastor666> sorry all je me croyais mirc -_-
[22:46] <nibsa1242b> tawt: the problem is that if it doesn't show up... the system won't know its there and you won't be able to use it
[22:46] <amenado> delphi-> cud it possibly it is trying to resolved your ip address? look into pam.d modules for configuring that?
[22:46] <Mustard_Is_Blue> anyone know how to disable ASPI?
[22:46] <ceil420> i think my distro upgrade got frozen :( it's been "Configuring motion" for like 5mins... with no change
[22:46] <jburd> nucco: Ah, with the upgrade I could log in to a non functional gnome desktop.  With a clean install, nothing works.
[22:46] <nucco> Pilha: just increase the default zoom size in file management preferences
[22:46] <livingdaylight> drivetrax, ?
[22:46] <drivetrax> livingdaylight:  -- the people in #compiz-Fusion can help you, really!
[22:46] <livingdaylight> look at video card driver?
[22:46] <tawt> nibsa1242  :(
[22:47] <Pilha> nucco: cool, thx
[22:47] <livingdaylight> ok
[22:47] <nucco> jburd: what kind of errors do you see?
[22:47] <delphi> sorry, I should have mentioned: logging in via ssh ;)
[22:47] <jburd> nucco: In which case?
[22:47] <billisnice> is there a new bit t file with all these updates i see today?
[22:47] <Shadow420> I am upgrading Gutsy To Hardy
[22:47] <spatry> Hi
[22:47] <dumnut> Starnestommy: ty
[22:47] <nucco> jburd: start with the one that annoys you first :)
[22:47] <fbc> jburd, wait until the hard drive stops going before determining you have no login... You can always try pressing CTRL-ALT-F3 to see if you have a terminal session visible...
[22:47] <nibsa1242b> tawt: I know are you sure its on (the light is blinking or what not).
[22:47] <spatry> blank screen after loggin... is that a known problem with Hardy??
[22:47] <amenado> delphi same thing, look into how sshd allows incoming log ins..if it trying to resolve them
[22:47] <whirlybird20> Does anyone know how i can play a DVD in ubuntu?
[22:47] <Mustard_Is_Blue> does anybody know how to disable ACPI?
[22:47] <jburd> fbc: I can log into a virtual terminal
[22:47] <tawt> nibsa1242, right, the light is on.
[22:48] <nucco> spatry: did you do a clean install, or an upgrade?
[22:48] <hwilde> whirlybird20, just put it in the drive it works automagically
[22:48] <SyaZ> hwilde, yes, Ethernet controller: Linksys Wireless LAN Adapter..
[22:48] <spatry> nucco: clean install
[22:48] <amenado> jburd-> crtl+alt + F1 to F6
[22:48] <jburd> amenado: all of them work except f7
[22:48] <nucco> spatry: whitish means compiz has issues, brownish means gnome has issues
[22:48] <fbc> jburd, ok the your going to need to login and run the X config... which I forget how from the command prompt....
[22:48] <hwilde> SyaZ, ok can you type "ifconfig -a" and "iwconfig" and "cat /etc/network/interfaces"  and pastebin the output ?
[22:48] <dra1> Hello everyone, yestarday I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, and now I have no sound, ive searched the forums and noticed this to be a popular problem, but I still have found no answer to resolve this issue, has anyone had a similiar problem or no of a fix? Any help would be great!
[22:48] <amenado> jburd yes
[22:48] <spatry> nucco: brownish
[22:48] <Shadow420> how can I mount a dvd iso
[22:48] <SyaZ> hwilde, That'd be troublesome, that laptop does not have internet connection. =P
[22:49] <B-rabbit> hey guyz, i get an error when i try to send an e-mail, i am using thunderbird, the error --> "An error has occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. t10sm3820234xxxxxxx. Please verify that your email address is correct in your Mail preference and try again". HOW DO I VERIFY MY EMAIL ADDRESS, i did check the preference but i could't find any options to do it. any id
[22:49] <B-rabbit> eas?
[22:49] <hwilde> !sound | dra1
[22:49] <ubotu> dra1: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:49] <nucco> spatry: installed to an unclean /home partition?
[22:49] <amenado> dra1 its not new, 7.10 have same sound issues..
[22:49] <fbc> jburd, use the username and password you created during the setup, and the command is going to be something like 'sudo xorgconfig'
[22:49] <Pilha> ok ppl, thx for everything - bye
[22:49] <whirlybird20> When I put the drive in it says "An error occurred. Could not read from resource."
[22:49] <spatry> nucco:no, formatted before.
[22:49] <koomber> has nyone made progress with getting hardy to run on a Dell in IDE mode (seems newer models)
[22:49] <CShadowRun> did the splash screen problem get fixed?
[22:49] <drivetrax> Shadow420:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[22:49] <hwilde> B-rabbit, go into the account settings under smtp and change it to TLS
[22:49] <Mustard_Is_Blue> Can someone please help me disable ACPI using the grub boot menu?
[22:49] <dra1> ty
[22:49] <fbc> jburd, or xorgsetup
[22:49] <XVampireX> Hi I have opera installed and I tried to run it but at first it just didn't appear, second when I went to terminal it said some stuff about libjvm and libawt and when I checked the whole line in google it gave me a solution and I installed the java jre and then still it doesn't help and gives me the same stuff... what goes? I'm using hardy heron
[22:49] <hwilde> Mustard_Is_Blue,  put "noacpi" in there
[22:49] <amenado> koomber-> IDE mode? as opposed to what
[22:50] <nucco> spatry: weird. you've not managed to login at all, or it worked before, and now it isn't working?
[22:50] <Mustard_Is_Blue> hwilde: under which line?
[22:50] <darren_> ok anyone can you help getting video's running in firefox
[22:50] <Starnestommy> Mustard_Is_Blue: the kernel line
[22:50] <johnmike> Hi, does anyone have a Dell Inspiron 6400?  If so, have you installed Heron yet?
[22:50] <whirlybird20> I have tried to install automatix but there is no version for hardy
[22:50] <drivetrax> darren_:  get Flash_9
[22:50] <nibsa1242b> tawt: you could always open it up and look at the card...
[22:50] <Mustard_Is_Blue> ok thankyou.
[22:50] <jburd> fbc: I'm going to look at my xorg.conf file
[22:50] <koomber> amenado->  It seems that hardy will only install onto Dell Vostro 200 in Raid mode
[22:50] <darren_> k
[22:50] <spatry> since it's installed,  no login.  live cd works (but sometimes I get the brownish blank screen)...
[22:50] <darren_> is it in the firefox addons
[22:50] <Starnestommy> whirlybird20: automatix is dead and it has been known to cause problems.  Try looking for libdvdcss
[22:51] <whirlybird20> ok
[22:51] <whirlybird20> thanks
[22:51] <Derspankster> whirlybird20: for good reason - not needed, plus, it's evil.
[22:51] <drivetrax> darren_:  You can get it from flash site, untar it.. or I think, ADD it
[22:51] <lunartear> hwilde did you see my post?
[22:51] <Shadow420> whirlybird20 automatrix is not recommended
[22:51] <nucco> spatry: I've experienced those screens before, usually gnome-session is the problem.
[22:51] <tawt> nibsa1242, lol.  i don't really want to.  I have a habit of breaking things...
[22:51] <darren_> k
[22:51] <spatry> nucco: I'll check it out...
[22:51] <XVampireX> Anyone knows?
[22:51] <Shadow420> !dvd iso
[22:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd iso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:51] <spatry> nucco: thx
[22:51] <koomber> johnmike : Is it jusst rebooting when you try and install or have you tried installing yet?
[22:51] <hwilde> lunartear, no where is the link
[22:51] <lunartear> hwilde: http://nopaste.snit.ch/12819
[22:51] <nucco> spatry: I usually remove the file "session" from ~/.gnome2/ (or is it ~/.gnome) ?
[22:52] <naranco> any known sound issues in heron?
[22:52] <ruewan> ok i think it was mytv backend
[22:52] <Derspankster> XVampireX: know what?
[22:52] <drivetrax> read all release notes for Hardy Heron
[22:52] <ChaosTheory^> What's the best LaTeX editor?
[22:52] <XVampireX> Hi I have opera installed and I tried to run it but at first it just didn't appear, second when I went to terminal it said some stuff about libjvm and libawt and when I checked the whole line in google it gave me a solution and I installed the java jre and then still it doesn't help and gives me the same stuff... what goes? I'm using hardy heron
[22:52] <ruewan> i have been saved from vista
[22:52] <johnmike> koomber: I haven't tried installing yet. It always has such a hard time with new upgrades like this because of the ATI and wireless card.
[22:52] <nucco> naranco: beauty of a live cd. try it before you dive
[22:52] <XVampireX> Derspankster ^
[22:52] <johnmike> koomber: Have you?
[22:53] <drivetrax> ruewan:  - HalleLuja
[22:53] <Darknezz> when i go into terminal and want to download/instal a program i get this msg "unable to resolve host (comp name)" internet seems to be working but i cant get that to work
[22:53] <ruewan> i was scared
[22:53] <drivetrax> ruewan:  yah, me 2
[22:53] <naranco> nucco, just tried it, very choppy sound, mixer doesnt seem to work, skype and rhythmbox dont get along.... seen that way back in warty...
[22:53] <ruewan> now my only problem in life is solving the mystery behind the stupid design of the american toliet
[22:53] <Derspankster> XVampireX: how did you install Opera?
[22:53] <smithey93> hey guys, how do i install the compiz gui?
[22:53] <koomber> johnmike: Hmm.  The vostro 200 and a couple other models are having a big problem installing Heron.  It can only be installed if the bios is set to RAID mode
[22:53] <hwilde> lunartear, from host1,   scp userX:~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub userY@host2.com:~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub_userX       then ssh to userY@host2.com, cd .ssh, cat id_dsa.pub_userX >> authorized_keys
[22:53] <drivetrax> ruewan:  - ahahahahaa
[22:54] <amenado> Darknezz-> paste your cat /etc/resolv.conf
[22:54] <XVampireX> Derspankster, First I tried from the official repos (Ubuntu) and then I tried from a deb package from opera website
[22:54] <ruewan> why the heck do they put so much water in the bowl i get splashed everytime i go to pee
[22:54] <nucco> naranco: if I were you, I'd probably stick to erm, gutsy
[22:54] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93, ccsm
[22:54] <naranco> that was a real dissapointment, sound is basic
[22:54] <drivetrax> eh
[22:54] <XVampireX> both didn't work
[22:54] <spiderfire> ruewan: you too?!
[22:54] <smithey93> Life is funny - do i apt-get install it?
[22:54] <corbett> >	anyone got any tips on how to get my maxtor mini 111 external hard drive working on ubuntu - var msg log as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002/
[22:54] <ruewan> english toliets don't do that
[22:54] <amenado> ruewan get an arabic toilet then
[22:54] <wwalker> I need the package that provides SDL_image.h.  Is there a way to get apt-get or a-pt-cache to go figure out the package for me?
[22:54] <Derspankster> XVampireX: it's available, in Synaptic (whoa, I thinks so, at least) in Hardy
[22:55] <catmistake> Hey... how do I find a slower, less huge #ubuntu channel?
[22:55] <Lifeisfunny> sudo apt-get install compiz-config*   (I'm to lazy to type it all out)
[22:55] <kst-> any ideas why i'm getting fps drops in opengl games (quake 3) with hardy when it worked perfectly fine in gutsy? using same xorg.conf and home directory, other than that a clean hardy install
[22:55] <spiderfire> whats an arabic toilet?
[22:55] <XVampireX> Derspankster, I tried it from there... I did sudo apt-get install opera
[22:55] <XVampireX> then I tried to run it it just didn't appear
[22:55] <ruewan> thanks for the help
[22:55] <saud> ubuntu 8
[22:55] <Jackamon> spiderfire: a hole
[22:55] <XVampireX> then I went to console it wrote that:
[22:55] <johnmike> koomber: Ew. Maybe now is not the time for us to upgrade! I know a few people on http://www.mylittleubuntuguide.com have had success installing it when it was beta, but I don't know enough about Ubuntu to fix something if it didn't go smooth.
[22:55] <XVampireX> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[22:55] <XVampireX> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[22:55] <naranco> yep, sticking to gutst for now... not the 1st time a ubuntu release has sound issues... not sure how this isnt caught...
[22:55] <B-rabbit> hwilde, erm, i went to account settings > server settings > use secure connection > tls , but thats the onle tsl option that i see, and it doesn't solve the problem, i still get an error
[22:55] <XVampireX> then I went to google to look maybe there's a fix
[22:55] <Darknezz> amemado: ... paste what???
[22:55] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93, do...........  fusion-icon      too
[22:55] <Derspankster> XVampireX: use Synaptic, perhaps you're missing something
[22:55] <amenado> Darknezz-> paste your cat /etc/resolv.conf
[22:55] <XVampireX> It said I had to install java5-jre stuff and I did then tried installing again
[22:56] <radioman> just make clean install & enjoy clear system ;}
[22:56] <XVampireX> err, running again
[22:56] <Lifeisfunny> that will put it in the taskbar
[22:56] <B-rabbit> hwilde, maby i done something wrong
[22:56] <saud> i have problem with Nvidia card...dosn't work good
[22:56] <kst-> might go back to gutsy :(
[22:56] <koomber> john: I'm going to give it a blast I think.  I'll just kill off Vista then reinstall after I have ubuntu on.
[22:56] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- It says the drive is not partitioned.. did you format the drive.. is it new install drive?
[22:56] <unocrash> hey
[22:56] <Jackamon> hey
[22:56] <whirlybird20> I opened the synaptic package manager and searched for ﻿libdvdcss and several results came up
[22:56] <whirlybird20> I already have libdvdreal3
[22:57] <Derspankster> XVampireX: then uninstall from synaptic and reinstall
[22:57] <smithey93> Lifeisfunny, im useing 8.04, and ccsm isnt there when i apt-get
[22:57] <whirlybird20> is that the right one?
[22:57] <unocrash> how do i get Compiz again? i ALWAYS forget......
[22:57] <fbc> Is there anyway to put DISPLAYCONFIG-GTK back into the administration menu??? Why was it removed in Hardy?
[22:57] <hwilde> B-rabbit, Edit -> Preferences -> Account Settings -> Outgoing Server (SMTP) -> Edit ->   Use secure connection: TLS
[22:57] <moveax> doug2266778822: seems to be working for me buddy
[22:57] <B-rabbit> catmistake, whats wrong with this channel
[22:57] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93, hold on
[22:57] <catmistake> B-rabbit: too much information
[22:57] <lunartear> hwilde, do you mean id_rsa.pub not id_dsa.pub?
[22:57] <whirlybird20> what about libdvdread-dev?
[22:57] <johnmike> koomber: are you installing by disk?  How would you revert back to previous OSs if anything? Just reinstall it all?
[22:57] <catmistake> there should be... idk... #ubuntu2, #ubuntu3, etc...
[22:57] <Starnestommy> whirlybird20: try running sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[22:57] <corbett> drivetrax: it work perfecly on windows on another pc, is ntsf, i've not anything special to get it part for ub.
[22:57] <hwilde> lunartear, for userX to be able to login to userY using the key, userX's key has to be in userY's authorized keys.    rsa or dsa whichever you are using
[22:57] <lOki^> !se
[22:58] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[22:58] <XVampireX> Derspankster, doesn't work
[22:58] <Derspankster> XVampireX: I run Opera on my laptop that was upgraded to Hardy without issue - although I much prefer FF3.
[22:58] <hwilde> lunartear, userX and userY have separate authorized_keys files in their respective ~/.ssh/ directories
[22:58] <Lunar_Lamp> !vmware
[22:58] <unocrash> How do I get compiz? I ALWAYS forget....:-[
[22:58] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[22:58] <nucco> catmistake: or your irc client should be smart enough to highlight stuff addressed to you :)
[22:58] <lunartear> hwilde, i did that already
[22:58] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93,                 sudo apt-get install compizconfig* fusion-icon    (my bad)
[22:58] <ruewan> FF3 is fast
[22:58] <Lunar_Lamp> !virtualizers
[22:58] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[22:58] <billisnice> i know lots of folks trying ubuntu for the first time, i am concerned about all the updates
[22:58] <fbc> unocrash,  you already have it install you just need to instal your crads accelerated driver..
[22:58] <catmistake> nucco: usually, I like to see stuff going on... there's just too much stuff going on here. Makes me crazy.
[22:58] <drivetrax> corbett:  this drive a scsi?  And.. is it plugged in USB?
[22:58] <acoustyk> hey
[22:58] <Wirta-> how do I uninstall wine so I can re-install it?
[22:58] <Jackamon> !virtualisers
[22:59] <unocrash> fbc: Huh?
[22:59] <corbett> drivetrax: i believe so
[22:59] <hwilde> !wine | Wirta-
[22:59] <ubotu> Wirta-: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[22:59] <nucco> catmistake: you'll get used to it... :) sometimes I hate it too
[22:59] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93,   compizconfig-setting-manager           is what it actually is
[22:59] <acoustyk> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and my display is lopsided
[22:59] <fbc> unocrash, What kind of video card do you have???
[22:59] <catmistake> nucco: thanks for the reassurance
[22:59] <drivetrax> corbett:  oh.. k, it may be usb with linux..
[22:59] <B-rabbit> catmistake, lol, erm this is the main channel, u will get used to it, the more info the better ;)
[22:59] <acoustyk> there is black space above my panel
[22:59] <unocrash> fbc: I need ccsm. ATi. It's Installed. Im on 8.04 LTS (Non-Beta) if that helps
[22:59] <acoustyk> ideas?
[22:59] <unocrash> i need ccsm.
[22:59] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93,   compizconfig-settings-manager           i left out the s in settings, again, my bad
[23:00] <smithey93> Lifeisfunny: yea thats it, its just i forgot what it was called after installing hardy and i like having effects well, because my pc copes well with it lol and i push it to the max
[23:00] <nucco> catmistake: don't try to follow everything though LOL
[23:00] <Lifeisfunny> cool
[23:00] <fbc> unocrash, Have you tried doing into preferences>>apperance>>visual effects and eneabling them?
[23:00] <jburd> Wow this is amazing.
[23:00] <Derspankster> XVampireX: did you mark Opera for complete removal in synaptic?
[23:00] <jburd> fbc: Ubuntu detected NONE of my graphical hardware.
[23:00] <XVampireX> Derspankster, Yeah
[23:00] <kklimonda> why doesn't swfdec works with pulseaudio? ffs, there is no good flash player for amd64 version of ubuntu :/
[23:00] <Lifeisfunny> smithey93, enjoy
[23:00] <corbett> drivetrax: meaning?  to run it on windows i had to download software from seagate
[23:00] <unocrash> yes! they are on! I need ccsm
[23:00] <Darknezz> amenado: it says "search (isp)" "nameserver (IP)" "nameserver (IP)"
[23:00] <jburd> Not my monitor, not my card
[23:00] <radioman> i like fire effect makink with mouse ;}
[23:00] <unocrash> !ccsm
[23:00] <ubotu> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[23:00] <XVampireX> or maybe not
[23:00] <catmistake> B-rabbit | nucco : but... I'd like to chat up some convos about hardy... and I feel like it'd just be not important enough to flood even more info through here...
[23:01] <fbc> jburd, damn... I'm not and nvidia 6800 guru.... let me google it...
[23:01] <Rankbine> hola a todos
[23:01] <amenado> Darknezz-> if you dont paste those, hard to tell if your name server is working
[23:01] <nucco> catmistake: go ahead, you can always address me
[23:01] <Derspankster> XVampireX: well, then do so, remove config files
[23:01] <catmistake> nucco: are you using hardy?
[23:01] <carpark> hi, i upgraded yesterday and i'm having an issue w/ firefox - when i watch videos on a website, i get no sound. downloaded videos & music play fine, but firefox will play no sounds
[23:01] <Darknezz> nameserver 64.59.176.13
[23:01] <Darknezz> nameserver 64.59.176.15
[23:01] <rjonesx> "import gtk" is failing when i open up many programs - it appears to be related to Cairo. this is causing most programs to crash immediately upon opening. Any ideas?
[23:01] <unocrash> !es | Rankbine
[23:01] <ubotu> Rankbine: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:01] <nucco> catmistake: downloading right now, at the amazing rate of 1.35KB/s :)
[23:01] <tawt> carpark, same problem
[23:01] <Darknezz> amenado: nameserver 64.59.176.13
[23:01] <Darknezz> nameserver 64.59.176.15
[23:02] <lunartear> hwilde, somehow the key i originally copied got corrupted.  its working now...   Why would ssh not give a warning about the key verification failing or something
[23:02] <XVampireX> Derspankster, It only uninstalls and then only installs opera and still doesn't work...
[23:02] <drivetrax> corbett:  Do you need to keep the ntfs.. is the drive for data, or installing Linux
[23:02] <nucco> catmistake: although I have got a slow connection, so I can't blame the mirrors!
[23:02] <doug2266778822> moveax: so that code works for you? weird how it wont work for me.
[23:02] <Wirta-> wine freezes when I click Sound configure tab...
[23:02] <Rankbine>  /join #ubuntu-es
[23:02] <fbc> jburd,  here is your solution... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[23:02] <carpark> tawt: is this common, or is it just a small percentage of us? maybe it's an issue with the beta version?
[23:02] <fbc> jburd, a person with the same problem your having referenced it as his solution..
[23:02] <amenado> Darknezz-> can you do  a  dig   @64.59.176.15  www.yahoo.com ?
[23:02] <johnmike> What's the best way to back everything up before upgrading?
[23:03] <corbett> drivetrax: the drive is for data -so i guess you're suggesting i convert it?
[23:03] <nucco> catmistake: if your questions aren't specific to hardy, I could help, in any case, asking them here is more likely to get you answers or responses
[23:03] <tawt> carpark, i think we installed a bad plugin.  i don't yet know how to fix it
[23:03] <freeman163> for some reason, ubuntu won't recognize my keyboard layout until i login with qwerty (i use dvorak). any way to fix this?
[23:03] <Derspankster> XVampireX: does FF3 work?
[23:03] <catmistake> nucco: I got the alternate yesterday... I always curl because I hate leaving a browser open when I'm not using it. I'll be replacing a edgy install... but... it works so well, I 'm almost afraid to... gotta do backups.
[23:03] <johnmike> I tried searching google and no one has a direct answer! ;)
[23:03] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- no,, not at all.. asking..
[23:03] <XVampireX> Derspankster, yeah
[23:03] <drivetrax> corbett:  searching now
[23:03] <tawt> carpark, before i did a clean install, i had sound working for vids
[23:03] <unocrash> what's new in Hardy?
[23:03] <nucco> catmistake: you should get the livecd and test it, just to be sure everything is cool.
[23:03] <XVampireX> Derspankster, I installed beta opera and it works
[23:03] <carpark> tawt: it's weird though, i watched a video maybe 15 minutes ago just fine, it seemed to stop when i opened rythmbox because everything then went slow - i don't know if it's a coincidence or something, though
[23:04] <test3r> !hardy
[23:04] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[23:04] <radioman> hardy is NEW, thats is new ;}
[23:04] <Darknezz> amenado; nameserver 64.59.176.13
[23:04] <Darknezz> nameserver 64.59.176.15
[23:04] <nucco> catmistake: but if your hardware is all intel, then you should have minimal (or no) worries
[23:04] <tokah> hey, i need to have /usr/bin/ffmeg also be able to be called from /usr/local/bin/ffmeg how do i do that
[23:04] <tawt> carpark, is rythmbox still open?
[23:04] <Derspankster> XVampireX: well, that's something, at least.
[23:04] <amenado> Darknezz-> can you do  a  dig   @64.59.176.15  www.yahoo.com ?  is it responding with good results?
[23:04] <nucco> unocrash: there's a tour guide at www.ubuntu.com
[23:04] <catmistake> nucco: I've been waiting for the LTS, for... well, years now... I didn't like Dapper, but edgy worked great, so I used that... but its getting long in the tooth...
[23:04] <jrabbit> I get a No Bootable Device error on boot to my third parttion on my intel mac I am able to boot to it and have installed GRUB to the / parttion with /home folowing
[23:04] <Darknezz> amenado: woops ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @64.59.176.15 www.yahoo.com
[23:04] <Darknezz> ; (1 server found)
[23:04] <carpark> tawt: yes, i closed it earlier to see if that was the issue, but sound still didn't play. i'll try it again though
[23:04] <Derspankster> XVamireX: I'm not on a hardy box right now.
[23:04] <Darknezz> amenado: it seems to work
[23:04] <rjonesx> how would one update either python or cairo or both from the command line?
[23:04] <hwilde> lunartear, I dunno, ssh -vvv
[23:05] <rjonesx> or uninstall and reinstall them?
[23:05] <XVampireX> Derspankster, Yeah
[23:05] <nucco> catmistake: dappar was my best ever ubuntu, I hope hardy doesn't disappoint me too.
[23:05] <catmistake> nucco: its not so much the release I'm worried about, its getting everything back just so from a clean install
[23:05] <tawt> carpark, try restarting firefox
[23:05] <Starnestommy> tokah: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/ffmpeg /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg
[23:05] <Darknezz> amenado: ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[23:05] <Darknezz> www.yahoo.com.		124	IN	CNAME	www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net.
[23:05] <Darknezz> www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net. 31	IN	A	69.147.114.210
[23:05] <amenado> Darknezz-> so it seems to resolve ip addresses, what was the issue again?
[23:05] <acoustyk> is thunderbird compatable with 8.04?
[23:05] <FloodBot2> Darknezz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <unocrash> I mean I upgraded to Hardy today (took all the way from 7:35 to 12:00) And im extremely used to using ubuntu (and SUSE Linux), and Hardy doesn't feel new....
[23:05] <unocrash> ill see wahts new on the website
[23:05] <unocrash> brb
[23:05] <nucco> catmistake: as you get better with linux, you might find that you can have a separate partition for /home, then when you do a clean install, you don't have to lose all your data :)
[23:05] <lunartear> hwilde, thats the command i issued but didnt see anything
[23:05] <bastid_raZor> i upgraded to heron and now my monitor(actually it is my tv) is Not supported.. i'm getting failed modules in nvidia_new and nvidia_legacy  i have a pastebin of .xsession-errors and my xorg at :: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64427/
[23:05] <unocrash> \
[23:05] <lunartear> hwilde: ohwell its fixed.. thanks
[23:05] <Derspankster> XVampireX: I do run hardy on my laptop and my server has been upgraded as well but I'm waiting for the smoke to clear to upgrade this desktop.
[23:06] <derenrich> Is there any way for me to change the compiz effects level from the command line? I screwed around too much and now I'm frozen out.
[23:06] <Rolcol> Has anyone had a problem in Hardy in which the shadows, scroll bars, and buttons don't look like they should?
[23:06] <doug2266778822> is there any codes i can use that will let me watch protected Dvd's?
[23:06] <nucco> catmistake: and it doesn't take long to get things back *better* than they were before
[23:06] <catmistake> nucco: ah... that's a great idea. I left some space on the partition to install Solaris on the same box, but never bothered... so I have to repartition anyway to recover that extra 30GB or so
[23:06] <XVampireX> Derspankster, Alright
[23:06] <carpark> tawt: i closed rhythmbox and then reloaded the page, and the video played with sound! do you think your problem might've occured because of a media player also?
[23:06] <nucco> catmistake: yeah, for me, I make 10G for "/" , 1G for swap, and the rest for "/home"
[23:06] <jburd> fbc: Heck, even dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not work.  It still creates a blank xorg.conf.
[23:07] <B-rabbit> catmistake, you are as important as everyone else here :) and if u want to talk about something me and everyone else will be more than happy to help u out
[23:07] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- go here!  http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-04/msg00879.html
[23:07] <naranco> sound seems to be an issue (or the mixer)
[23:07] <catmistake> nucco: one thing I've gotten used to is nxserver... and NoMachine is real slow in updating... so I'm ... well, asking now if anyone knows if nxserver works in hardy?
[23:07] <B-rabbit> catmistake, just askaway :)
[23:07] <jburd> fbc: I can't use "Restricted Drivers Manager" if I don't have a GUI to use
[23:07] <Lifeisfunny> Rolcol, I did,it was on the amd64 version ........... I fixed it by installing the 32 bit version
[23:07] <Itaku> im on 8.04 and im wondering how i reinstall mysql-server completely so it asks me for a root pass again
[23:07] <Starnestommy> doug2266778822: libdvdcss, which can be installed via sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh after libdvdread3 is installed
[23:07] <catmistake> thanks B-rabbit
[23:07] <towlie>   
[23:07] <carpark> tawt, but here's the weird thing: with the vid playing, i opened rhythmbox, and now THAT won't play songs while the video is playing...
[23:07] <Darknezz> amenado: when i want to install or download (apt -get instal) it says unable to resolve host (home)
[23:07] <tawt> carpark, no.  i have no media player yet (clean installed about an hour ago) I think it's the plugin.  how do i download other plugings?
[23:07] <corbett> drivetrax: thats me
[23:07] <tawt> carpark, ...
[23:07] <Lifeisfunny> it might not be what you want to do, I admit
[23:07] <catmistake> nxserver on hardy? anyone?
[23:07] <Rolcol> Lifeisfunny, well, I have the 32 bit installed.... I guess Ill have to do a reinstall
[23:07] <fbc> jburd, keeep on reading the guid
[23:08] <acoustyk> my mouse scroll works!
[23:08] <nucco> catmistake: never heard of nxserver and nomachine though... I won't expect them to break, especially if they're in in ubuntu's repositories
[23:08] <acoustyk> wooohoo!
[23:08] <corinth> Is there a command to reconfigure a program to its default settings?
[23:08] <tawt> carpark, interesting.  i have too little experience to deal with this
[23:08] <Lr5> corinth: maybe dpkg-reconfigure
[23:08] <jrabbit> I get a No Bootable Device error on boot to my third parttion on my intel mac I am able to boot to it and have installed GRUB to the / parttion with /home folowing ?????
[23:08] <Lr5> no idea if that does it though
[23:08] <amenado> Darknezz-> hard to assist you if you are hiding your ip address, hard to tell what the error is really telling you
[23:08] <jrabbit> I've never gotten this error from GRUB
[23:08] <catmistake> nucco: I don't think their in the repositories... I'm pretty sure I dled binaries from NoMachine
[23:08] <oddalot> anyone gotten emerald repositories to work?
[23:08] <fbc> jburd, you'll get to a section that tells you if you get a blank screen press CTRL-ALT-F1 adn login and alter your xorg.conf with special parameters so that you can get a picture...
[23:08] <nucco> corinth: completely remove the package, and then reinstall it.
[23:08] <carpark> tawt: plugins for firefox? click 'tools'>'add-ons'>'get add-ons' :)
[23:08] <ruthbuzzard> hey did they finally fix the libata or whatever the problem was that caused slow dvd burning on non sata (plextor?) drives
[23:09] <ruthbuzzard> in 8.04
[23:09] <doug2266778822> Starnestommy: when i type that i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64433/
[23:09] <corbett> drivetrax: shall i paste dmesg ouput with the ehd plugged?
[23:09] <illDecree> hey everyone
[23:09] <nucco> catmistake: in that case, its only a matter of time before they provide binaries for hardy.  you might wish to wait for them, or upgrade and wait for them
[23:09] <tawt> carpark, which video plugin do you have?
[23:09] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- then go here.. check again -- the command that tells if the disk is formatted!  -  http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-04/msg00881.html
[23:09] <fbc> jburd, something about changing "NV" to "NVIDIA" and a couple other parameters to get your video to come up
[23:09] <Darknezz> amenado: you need my ip?
[23:09] <doug2266778822> Starnestommy: after i hit enter it went through a whole ten min ordeal then it still does not work.
[23:09] <amenado> Darknezz-> no the ip from the errors..
[23:10] <carpark> tawt: doh! i gave you directions for extensions, not plugins. i have divx and totem
[23:10] <amenado> Darknezz-> paste the whole error and not translate it
[23:10] <Itaku> im on 8.04 and im wondering how i reinstall mysql-server completely so it asks me for a root pass again... not just the --reinstall option
[23:10] <hwilde> plik, rsync -av is not preserving ownership
[23:10] <AngryBacon> Is downloading from apt being very slow for anyone?
[23:10] <hwilde> Itaku, remove --purge
[23:10] <Starnestommy> AngryBacon: yes.
[23:10] <catmistake> nucco: I'm not so optimistic. They haven't even fixed their OS X client for leopard yet... but, well, Apple's got a problem with their X11 and XQuartz anyway that their not rushing to fix either
[23:10] <carpark> tawt: and there's a windows media, also
[23:10] <Itaku> k thanks
[23:10] <hwilde> AngryBacon, everyone is upgrading man
[23:10] <AngryBacon> Starnestommy: thats what i figured
[23:10] <unocrash> ok
[23:10] <unocrash> bk
[23:10] <nucco> Itaku: dpkg-reconfigure 'package name'
[23:10] <unocrash> \\
[23:10] <jburd> hwilde: not everybody is upgrading.
[23:10] <rjonesx> why when I try to uninstall cairo does it tell me I have to uninstall tons of other software?
[23:10] <anteatersa> you guys know you can upgrade off cd.....
[23:10] <jburd> I'm for sure not going to use hardy
[23:10] <tawt> carpark, it says i have 10 plugins, and none of them allow me to watch vids with sound
[23:10] <Peddy> can someone please tell me why the 'custom' option (for compiz) is not avaliable in appearences>visual effects?
[23:10] <hwilde> jburd, go be miserable somehwere else
[23:10] <graingert> !apt
[23:10] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[23:11] <graingert> !repo
[23:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:11] <doug2266778822> Starnestommy: here is the out post of the install http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64434/
[23:11] <unocrash> hwilde: Whats wrong with upgrading????
[23:11] <jburd> hwilde: Eh?  Fsck off.
[23:11] <nucco> catmistake: hardy is an LTS, any one who considers ubuntu will take supporting it seriously
[23:11] <catmistake> nucco: just fyi, nxserver/client is like vnc, but over ssh and tiny, built to work on dialup, its a full remote windowing solution
[23:11] <AngryBacon> Any one know any mirrors to go to?
[23:11] <hwilde> unocrash, that's why the repos are slow - everyone is upgrading
[23:11] <Itaku> nucco and hwilde none of those work...
[23:11] <unocrash> !language | jburd
[23:11] <ubotu> jburd: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:11] <hwilde> AngryBacon, the git mirrors are fast
[23:11] <catmistake> nucco: yeah... but hardy is so old now...
[23:11] <Starnestommy> doug2266778822: it looks like it should have worked
[23:11] <mabus> how come when I vnc to my ubuntu machine when it's first booted, it just shows a basic x desktop before closing after a minute or so. never brings up gdm. I can only login remotely if I first login using my keyboard locally on the machine. how can I remedy this?
[23:11] <Itaku> i want it to ask me for a new root pass
[23:11] <hwilde> Itaku, apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[23:11] <carpark> twat: that's odd, i have 11, most of which handle both video and audio.
[23:11] <AngryBacon> hwilde: thats assuming i want compiz
[23:11] <jburd> unocrash: !manners | hwilde
[23:11] <Itaku> hwilde: thats wha ti did
[23:11] <doug2266778822> star i know but it didnt.
[23:12] <hwilde> !attitude | jburd
[23:12] <ubotu> jburd: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:12] <Itaku> and then i reinstalled
[23:12] <nucco> Itaku: I didn't understand your statement
[23:12] <whirlybird20> Anyone got any tips on how to capture videos of your screen in ubuntu?
[23:12] <necro606> hi I am trying to srt up two moniters in ubuntu 7.10. Every time i try i only get 640x400@60 on both moniters when i go in and try to config the res file it crashes and all i get is the consile any ideas
[23:12] <nucco> catmistake: old?
[23:12] <Darknezz> amenado: http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8848/screenshotdarknezzpwnddds9.png
[23:12] <jburd> !attitude | hwilde
[23:12] <ubotu> hwilde: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:12] <tawt> carpark, lol  you mispelt my nick.  hmm  i don't know
[23:12] <Itaku> nucco: i want it to remove all the libs and all...
[23:12] <edoceo> whirlybird20: xvidcap
[23:12] <lunartear> does anyone know if the ssh + svn "killed by signal 15" bug has been fixed or addressed?
[23:12] <catmistake> nucco: when was hardy released? When does its support lifecycle end?
[23:12] <fbc> jburd, all of that reading should have led you to this page with those specific instructions I told you about. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:12] <unocrash> jburd, hwilde | botabuse
[23:12] <corbett> drivetrax: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8116/
[23:12] <catmistake> nucco: I meant dapper! duh!
[23:12] <nucco> Itaku: then select them all and "mark for complete removal". use synaptic.
[23:12] <catmistake> nucco: brain fart
[23:12] <towlie> hardy is driving me nuts1!!!!!
[23:13] <jburd> fbc: Yeah, I'm reading that.
[23:13] <carpark> tawt: oh god, i'm sorry :P i'll check firefox FAQs i suppose.
[23:13] <towlie> its automatically dimming my laptop screen even though i went to power management and disabled it
[23:13] <nucco> catmistake: hardy: for desktop edition, 3 years from now, for server edition, 5 years from now
[23:13] <Darknezz> amenado: hope that helps
[23:13] <edoceo> I have some new Dell Vostro 200's that use the Intel 82G33 video adapters - which driver should I be using?
[23:13] <B-rabbit> catmistake, how long have u been using ubuntu?
[23:13] <catmistake> nucco: I meant dapper is old, gotta a little switcharoo in the brain... hardy, of course, is spankin
[23:13] <catmistake> B-rabbit: since edgy release
[23:13] <whirlybird20> I have tried xvidcap. It looks like it could be good only when ever i click on the record button the program closes
[23:13] <nucco> catmistake: dapper was released june 2006, support ends for desktop june 2009, for servers, june 2011
[23:13] <fbc> jburd, great, that should help you fix that specific problem  and get you on your feet.
[23:13] <Lifeisfunny> whirlybird20,   three programs are......... XVidCap Wink  Istanbul.
[23:13] <doug2266778822> star any other ideas?
[23:13] <tawt> carpark  lol  it's ok.  i noticed that after i picked the name.  thanks
[23:14] <nucco> catmistake: I understood :)
[23:14] <unocrash> dapper's LTS ends June of Next year
[23:14] <catmistake> nucco: thanks
[23:14] <whirlybird20> ok
[23:14] <jburd> fbc: The problem is I have the nvidia drivers installed.
[23:14] <tawt> carpark, i need a name that doesn't mispell twat
[23:14] <whirlybird20> I shall try some of those other programs
[23:14] <whirlybird20> thank
[23:14] <andycaass> what is the  build dependency package????
[23:14] <whirlybird20> s
[23:14] <doug2266778822> can someone please help me with this problem?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4793889#post4793889
[23:14] <koomber> edoceo:  Have you tried installing Ubuntu yet?
[23:14] <Frozenball> Does a talk channel for Ubuntu exist+
[23:14] <edoceo> koomber: Yes! I have been using Ubuntu for over three years
[23:15] <nucco> Frozenball: is this not a talk channel?
[23:15] <koomber> edoceo, sorry, I meant have you tried installing Heron on the Vostro's yet?
[23:15] <edoceo> koomber: I've got six Dell's that need Hardy and the Intel Video is jammed
[23:15] <carpark> tawt: i sued to use the name imthirsty72, but then people seemed to take it sexually, so i had to switch to carpark which, i hope, has no chance of being misunderstood!
[23:15] <hwilde> !offtopic | nucco Frozenball
[23:15] <ubotu> nucco Frozenball: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[23:15] <edoceo> koomber: Yes! THat is my issue
[23:15] <unocrash> Frozenball | !offtopic
[23:15] <rjonesx> Please help: how would one go about reinstalling python and/or cairo in Ubuntu? When I try to do it with synaptic or apt it tells me i have to remove literally a gig worth of programs.
[23:15] <amenado> Darknezz-> its says it can not resolve Pwnd
[23:15] <towlie> i upgraded to 8.04 but i dont havevirtualbox in the menu
[23:15] <Frozenball> I got it already
[23:15] <hwilde> unocrash, you know you are doing that backwards right
[23:15] <unocrash> yes.....:-[
[23:16] <edoceo> towlie: Have to re-install the VBox modules too - think it's now virtualbox-ose?
[23:16] <tawt> carpark, lol  i can't think of any way it could be except when you 'park' your car
[23:16] <dassouki> has anyone else lost their sound after upgrading to hardy?
[23:16] <Brodwen> Hi all, I've encountered a problem when booting Ubuntu, my screen resolution is unsupported, has anyone got a fix for this?
[23:16] <Darknezz> amenado: thats my host name
[23:16] <jrabbit> I have this error : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4792181#post4792181
[23:16] <hwilde> !sound | dassouki
[23:16] <ubotu> dassouki: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:16] <fbc> jburd, but there is abug with the Nvidia drivers in xorg.conf that this page talks about... about adding a line into xorg.conf to fix that problem
[23:16] <amenado> Darknezz-> can you paste your /etc/hosts ?
[23:16] <jrabbit> Similar situation
[23:16] <towlie> edoceo, what do you mean  ?
[23:16] <roffe__> when I tried to ./configure a source it says "not all dependencies could be satisfied" could someone help me find out what those dependancies are if I pastebin it?
[23:16] <unop> andycaass, it depends on what you are trying to do? what are you doing exactly?
[23:16] <mabus> how come when I vnc to my ubuntu machine when it's first booted, it just shows a basic x desktop before closing after a minute or so. never brings up gdm. I can only login remotely if I first login using my keyboard locally on the machine. how can I remedy this?
[23:16] <myf> anybody knows where to get the torrent for the alternate cd
[23:16] <towlie> edoceo,i dont think i had it in 7.10
[23:16] <unocrash> how do i change the usrname?
[23:16] <dragon3700> #taspring
[23:16] <mtaylor> hey guys - anything know anything about ssh X11 forwarding in hardy?
[23:16] <dragon3700> .join #taspring
[23:16] <necro606> can anyone help setup dual moniters with diffrent resalutions
[23:16] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh -X
[23:16] <mtaylor> my hardy client machine doesn't seem to be doing it, even if I ssh -X
[23:16] <unop> roffe__, use a pastebin and show us the output of ./configure there
[23:16] <edoceo> towlie: ohh -though you had in Gutsy then lost in Hardy... that was an issue I had.
[23:16] <amenado> mtaylor should be same as in gutsy
[23:16] <hwilde> !dualhead | necro606
[23:16] <ubotu> necro606: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[23:16] <jburd> fbc: yeah trying that now
[23:16] <mtaylor> hwilde: yup. not working
[23:16] <amirman84> hello fellow nerd clan, quick question. i'm about to install the new ubuntu. i have the release candidate ISO from last week. should i use the new ISO or are they the same thing?
[23:17] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh -X xclock
[23:17] <danonura> is it possible to get any sound from my auzen prelude? i know the official drivers aren't released but maybe something else works.
[23:17] <unocrash> i wnat to have a diffrent screen name..... how do I Change it?
[23:17] <fbc> jburd, unders creans you need to create a line that reads Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[23:17] <Darknezz> amenado: host.conf
[23:17] <nucco> amirman84: if you've got the new one, go with it please
[23:17] <unop> amirman84, they are the same thing if you complete the updates when you finish installing
[23:17] <Darknezz> amenado: ???
[23:17] <fbc> jburd, you have a flat panel right??
[23:17] <acoustyk> how do i install tar.gz files?
[23:17] <roffe__> unop: yes, I'll try it then I've never used pastebin but I figure it can't be too hard... wait a sec, please
[23:17] <hwilde> amirman84, they are pretty close but the new one will require less updates
[23:17] <amenado> Darknezz-> can you paste your /etc/hosts
[23:17] <Lifeisfunny> whirlybird20,   there's all so record my desktop       http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net
[23:17] <mtaylor> hwilde: mtaylor@solace:/usr/local$ ssh -X mordred@camelot xterm
[23:17] <mtaylor> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[23:17] <mtaylor> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[23:17] <unop> !pastebin > roffe__
[23:17] <fbc> jburd, with the digital connector right??
[23:17] <Darknezz> amenado: # The "order" line is only used by old versions of the C library.
[23:17] <Darknezz> order hosts,bind
[23:17] <Darknezz> multi on
[23:17] <Brodwen> Hi all, I've encountered a problem when booting Ubuntu, my screen resolution is unsupported, has anyone got a fix for this? (Sorry if anyone said anything before, it's a bit packed in here :))
[23:17] <jburd> fbc: yeah
[23:17] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- fstb...
[23:17] <fbc> jburd, well, that is your fix...
[23:17] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh -X mordred@camelot DISPLAY=yourIP:0 xterm
[23:17] <B-rabbit> acoustyk, what package are u trying to install?
[23:18] <amenado> Darknezz-> can you paste your /etc/hosts   <-- not hosts.conf
[23:18] <jburd> fbc: I'm using DVI and an nvidia card, that's right.  thanks :-)
[23:18] <towlie> god ubuntu is so slow... i have 2 freaking GB of ram!!!
[23:18] <doug2266778822> can someone please help me with this problem?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4793889#post4793889
[23:18] <amirman84> hwilde, the reason i ask is because when i did the update last night through wubi some of the packages wouldn't install
[23:18] <koomber> does anyone know there is a solution to getting Vista and Ubuntu to dual boot on a Vostr 200?
[23:18] <nucco> Brodwen: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a terminal
[23:18] <dassouki> hwilde, i've been through that alread, my sound card is detected, but for some reason refuses to play back
[23:18] <Brodwen> Thanks
[23:18] <mtaylor> hwilde: the machine I'm ssh-ing to does not have a network route to the machine I'm sshing from
[23:18] <mtaylor> hwilde: I'm sshing out through a fwall
[23:18] <KooperKool> back
[23:18] <carpark> tawt: i think i found the solution! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708907&page=2
[23:18] <corbett> drivetrax: sorry ?
[23:18] <KooperKool> uncocrash is now known as KooperKool!
[23:18] <towlie> can anyone help me ?
[23:18] <Darknezz> amenado: i dont think i have one
[23:18] <Calcifer> how much disk space does a standard ubuntu install take? is it inadvisable to install it on a 2gig drive?
[23:18] <towlie> its automatically dimming my laptop screen even though i went to power management and disabled it
[23:18] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh to it then type "who -u"   get your IP and then put that in the command I sent you
[23:18] <towlie> hardy is ..
[23:19] <Darknezz> amenado: it should be a folder right
[23:19] <mtaylor> hwilde: yeah... that IP is going to be the public ip of my firewall... but...
[23:19] <edoceo> koomber: I have that - Vista and Hardy on the same machine - Vostro (Shit!) 200
[23:19] <amenado> Darknezz-> as file
[23:19] <hwilde> Calcifer, default install about 2.7G   you won't make it on 2G until you remove a bunch of stuff.  But I have it down to 845M
[23:19] <fbc> jburd, Since I had to practically walk you through it, you owe me your first born..you have to name him Frank... :-p
[23:19] <rchase> wubi ends with 'running update-grub' does this mean that it will not clobber my existing menu.lst on a dual boot system?
[23:19] <corbett> drivetrax: should i be adding a line to fstab?
[23:19] <tawt> carpark, downloading
[23:19] <Calcifer> 845 eh, cool.
[23:19] <jburd> Hahaha fbc
[23:19] <edoceo> I got from Dell with Vista - did the Vista install / configure dealy - updates
[23:19] <drivetrax> corbett:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/access-to-slave-drive-in-7.10-626659/
[23:19] <QuadForce> can someone help a noob out? I have installed 8.04, but I cannot get a full screen resolution when I try to enable the restricted driver for my 8800GT. I have tried using envy, too, but it just wont allow it
[23:19] <jburd> fbc: I've been up for more than 24 hours now
[23:19] <slaytanic> Any tips on cleaning up after a dist-upgrade from gutsy? (For instance, removing firefox-2)
[23:19] <edoceo> Then Booted my Hardy CD and chose install - partition 50/50 and boom!
[23:19] <acoustyk> B-rabbit: thunderbird
[23:19] <nucco> mtaylor: if the connectivity isn't open both ways, I don't see how you can establish an ssh session
[23:19] <Darknezz> amenado: sorry i found it. 127.0.0.1 localhost
[23:19] <Darknezz> 127.0.1.1 Pwnd.MSHOME
[23:19] <Darknezz> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[23:19] <Darknezz> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[23:19] <Darknezz> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[23:19] <Darknezz> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[23:19] <FloodBot2> Darknezz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <hwilde> !fixres | QuadForce
[23:19] <ubotu> QuadForce: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:19] <edoceo> Works no problem, except for my crappy video
[23:20] <mtaylor> nucco: because that's how ssh works
[23:20] <roffe__> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64435/
[23:20] <jrabbit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4792181#post4792181 <- any solution??????
[23:20] <fbc> jburd, I can't beleive you never googled it in all that time...
[23:20] <mtaylor> nucco: I'm sshing outbound through the firewall
[23:20] <QuadForce> thanks
[23:20] <mtaylor> I don't need inbound connection,
[23:20] <edoceo> Which I just fixed:
[23:20] <mtaylor> but that's why ssh X11 forwarding is so great
[23:20] <hwilde> mtaylor, it should still work just set the display variable like I toldja
[23:20] <roffe__> unop: at the end it says not all dependancies are found
[23:20] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh -X mordred@camelot DISPLAY=yourIP:0 xterm
[23:20] <nucco> mtaylor: can you reach the remote machine through the firewall?
[23:20] <fbc> jburd, Worse case scenario use a basic VGA cable with your monitor until you find a fix....
[23:20] <tawt> carpark, i'm downloading the gstreamer codexs
[23:20] <amenado> Darknezz-> change this line to  127.0.0.1 localhost.myhomedomain.com localhost pwnd
[23:20] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- drives in Ubuntu have drivers for more than a certain amount of GB gigs, on one partition.. if You format with Linux.. then check for some drivers to read all the parts on that disk
[23:21] <KooperKool> how come it takes the 8.04 CD 9both live and alt) 6+ HOURS to download?
[23:21] <towlie> damn alt tab switching is so slow
[23:21] <hwilde> KooperKool, everyone is downloading right now
[23:21] <kbrooks> drivetrax, huh?
[23:21] <jburd> fbc: I came across this issue only after I did a clean install.  the upgrade did not have this problem
[23:21] <Sindacious> Has anyone had problems with Emerald on Hardy?
[23:21] <KooperKool> ahhhhh
[23:21] <amenado> KooperKool-> way too busy
[23:21] <kbrooks> drivetrax, um, you're confused
[23:21] <mtaylor> nucco: yes. but that's an outbound connection
[23:21] <mtaylor> hwilde: nope
[23:21] <drivetrax> kbrooks:  the fstb is prolly not seeing the drive
[23:21] <ruthbuzzard> anyone catch that?
[23:21] <Fogel1497> I'm having some trouble using an NTFS formatted external hdd, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[23:21] <kbrooks> drivetrax, the what?
[23:21] <mtaylor> but the whole thing is, if I could ssh to the remote host and reach the network back,
[23:21] <mtaylor> I'd just do xhost + on my client machine
[23:21] <drivetrax> fstb should see the drive
[23:22] <KooperKool> No wonder it took from 7:00 to Noon to upgrade. Man, that was long........
[23:22] <koomber> edeceo:  lucky man!  I have to switch the SATA mode to RAID from IDE to get it to run, but Vista won't run from RAID mode.
[23:22] <nucco> mtaylor: what you need to do is find out if ssh needs another open port for the incoming traffic... anybody got any ideas?
[23:22] <unop> roffe__, what is the name of the package you are installing here?
[23:22] <fbc> jburd, ahh..
[23:22] <mtaylor> nucco: it doesn't
[23:22] <koomber>  sorry, IDE to RAID
[23:22] <fbc> jburd, now go to sleep...
[23:22] <kbrooks> drivetrax, care to pm?
[23:22] <mtaylor> this is something that's been working for about 10 years... just stopped on hardy
[23:22] <nith> how do i get the UUID for a drive so I can add it to fstab?
[23:22] <mtaylor> I'm wondering if there were any "improvements" made in hardy
[23:22] <hwilde> mtaylor, xhost +   ??
[23:22] <Fogel1497> Can anyone help me with getting my NTFS external hdd to work in ubuntu?
[23:22] <nucco> mtaylor: then if the remote machine has port 22 open, I guess you shouldn't have any trouble. unless I don't understand your problem
[23:22] <mtaylor> that might affect this
[23:22] <carpark> tawt: how are the downloads? i tried libflashsupport but synaptic won't download the package for some reason
[23:22] <unop> nith, try .  vol_id /dev/sdXX
[23:22] <B-rabbit> acoustyk, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-thunderbird-2-in-linux/
[23:22] <amenado> mtaylor what is the issue? i came in late to the convo
[23:22] <Darknezz> amenado: what line?
[23:22] <hwilde> !ntfs | Fogel1497
[23:22] <ubotu> Fogel1497: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[23:22] <unop> nith, or.  volname /dev/sdXX
[23:22] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[23:22] <mtaylor> amenado: ssh -X isn't forwarding my X traffic
[23:22] <amenado> Darknezz-> the first line of that /etc/hosts
[23:23] <Fogel1497> !ntfs
[23:23] <fbc> jburd, they say that for every hour past 24 that you are awake you degrade your immune system by like 25%..
[23:23] <hwilde> mtaylor, amenado yes it is trying but it needs the DISPLAY env variable!
[23:23] <roffe__> unop: it's napkin... it's software for a device called the sleeptracker(helps you to wake up easier and records data during the night)
[23:23] <nucco> mtaylor: its ssy -Y not -X
[23:23] <KooperKool> ﻿MachinTrucChose: Hi
[23:23] <grandpa> hey guys i have a code red o.0! I was upgrading to hardy from gutsy, and then my computer crashed and gnome won't start...how can I finish the installation from the terminal (the update-dist command returns an error :(
[23:23] <MachinTrucChose> can someone tell me how to stop Nautilus from displaying thumbnails for videos? That "media preview" crap is one of the things I hated the most on Windows, I can't believe it's enabled in Ubuntu.
[23:23] <tawt> carpark, i think it downloaded, but i tried to get the sound and it prompted me to install the missing codecs
[23:23] <jburd> didn't know that fbc
[23:23] <hwilde> nucco, it's definitely -X
[23:23] <nith> thx
[23:23] <amenado> mtaylor are you getting any kind of error?
[23:23] <mtaylor> hwilde: just that DISPLAY is not set
[23:23] <linxuz3r> does anyone know why apt-get network connection is slow?
[23:23] <mtaylor> normally ssh sets that
[23:23] <hwilde> MachinTrucChose, go to the menu bar and select list view
[23:23] <yodaFOX> TEM ALGUM BRASILEIRO AE??
[23:23] <B-rabbit> acoustyk, or u could just go into application?add/remove > and search for thunderbird
[23:23] <corbett> drivetrax: thanks , how do i format with linux
[23:23] <MachinTrucChose> hwilde: without going into listview, I meant
[23:23] <milly1234> hi, I am having a problem with my rt2500pci wireless linksys card in Ubuntu Hardy being insanely slow nomatter what and it is performing basically how this describes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/190515   but I don't exactly understand how to go about resolving this issue
[23:23] <nucco> mtaylor: kick me, you wish to run an app on the remote host and have it show on your local machine? use -Y
[23:23] <moveax> doug2266778822: actually i'm still struggling with dvd playback, but I have a card up my sleeve
[23:24] <roffe__> unop: http://kin.klever.net/napkin/
[23:24] <unop> roffe__, try this.  sudo aptitude install xsltproc
[23:24]  * nucco thinks text-replacement can be a PITA
[23:24] <mtaylor> nucco: mtaylor@solace:/usr/local$ ssh -Y mordred@camelot xterm
[23:24] <mtaylor> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[23:24] <mtaylor> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[23:24] <Derspankster> grandpa; sudo apt-get upgrade --fix-missing might work
[23:24] <hwilde> nucco, it's definitely -X
[23:24] <yodaFOX> TEM ALGUM BRASILEIRO AE??
[23:24] <mtaylor> nucco: but I'm also pretty sure it's -X
[23:24] <KooperKool> so.....I know its earlty but..... the next Release is Ubuntu 8.10, right?
[23:24] <hwilde> !pr | yodaFOX
[23:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:24] <hwilde> !br | yodaFOX
[23:24] <ubotu> yodaFOX: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:24] <mtaylor> amenado: ssh -X mordred@camelot xterm
[23:24] <mtaylor> xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
[23:24] <mtaylor> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[23:24] <MachinTrucChose> hwilde: additionally, listview does not stop it, it just makes them HIDDEN. It's still scanning your hard drive to create thumbnails for each video.
[23:24] <yodaFOX> !BR
[23:24] <yodaFOX> !br
[23:24] <grandpa> Derspankster, i also have the alternate install disc, but i can't seem to run upgrade from there..is that an option?
[23:24] <fbc> jburd, try nyquil, or any cough medication with heavy alcohol content and your set. Remember your not an alcoholic, your just practicing.
[23:24] <yodaFOX> !br
[23:24] <tawt> kooperkool, yes, 8.10 intrepid ibex
[23:25] <mtaylor> I've checked /etc/ssh/ssh_config and ~/.ssh/config, both have ForwardX11 yes
[23:25] <linxuz3r> does anyone know why apt-get network connection is slow?
[23:25] <KooperKool> wow
[23:25] <Sergiu9> !codec > nagoHak
[23:25] <yodaFOX> [hwilde]: how?
[23:25] <hwilde> yodaFOX, /join #ubuntu-br      /join #ubuntu-pt
[23:25] <EruditeHermit> GreenFuze: hey did you figure it out?
[23:25] <ruthbuzzard> hey did they finally fix the libata or whatever the problem was that caused slow dvd burning on non sata (plextor?) drives in 8.04
[23:25] <Derspankster> grandpa; unknown
[23:25] <grandpa> Derspankster, would that command even work if sudo apt-get upgrade-dist says a lib is missing?
[23:25] <Sergiu9> :D
[23:25] <doug2266778822> moveax:  ah i thought you said you had it fixed.?
[23:25] <yodaFOX> !br
[23:25] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:25] <bcnaat> linxuz3r:everyone is downloading Hardy right now so its slow on the servers
[23:25] <hwilde> linxuz3r, think about it, everyone is upgrading right now...
[23:25] <Sergiu9> !russian
[23:25] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:25] <daysleepr> hello all, general question... any thoughts on why a machine would take a looong time to shut down?
[23:25] <ettore> I've installed ubuntustudio 8.04 and my hd icon are ghost, why ?
[23:25] <amenado> mtaylor the camelot host is the new ubuntu 8.04 ?
[23:25] <unop> roffe__, ok, it does not say much about what the requirements are - try install xsltproc first and then ./configure again .. if you run into problems, post output to pastebin again
[23:25] <nucco> mtaylor, hwilde, hmmm... never needed to do the whole X display thing before. -Y usually suffices for me, I can run almost any app that way
[23:25] <whirlybird20> When I click record on xvidcap the program closes, Wink wont open at all, and Istanbul crashes when you click record
[23:25] <Derspankster> grandpa: should
[23:25] <daysleepr> it takes several minutes for each process to give the [OK] to the shut down
[23:25] <tawt> carpark, ROFL  now i have sound and no vid!
[23:25] <KooperKool> then 9.04, 9.10, X.4, X.10........ in only 6 months......thats fast
[23:25] <mtaylor> amenado: nope, camelot is running lenny. the client host is hardy
[23:25] <moveax> doug2266778822: well I can play everything else
[23:26] <shane2peru> has anyone done the upgrade from fiesty?  How did it go??
[23:26] <moveax> doug2266778822: wmv, avi, wma, mpg, flash files, the lot
[23:26] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh mordred@camelot echo $DISPLAY
[23:26] <amenado> mtaylor let me try that..i have just installed Hardy
[23:26] <carpark> tawt: oh no! i have to go eat dinner now, i'll be back in chat later trying to get to the bottom of this
[23:26] <Derspankster> grandpa; but, the servers are still being blasted
[23:26] <moveax> doug2266778822: looking into mplayer and libdvdcss now
[23:26] <shane2peru> nope, I mean Gutsy!?
[23:26] <unop> nucco, what does this the $DISPLAY variable contain?
[23:26] <Itaku> nucco: it still doesnt ask me for a root pass again
[23:26] <nucco> mtaylor: did you check that X forwarding or something is enabled on the remote host? it could have an effect. Just guessing though
[23:26] <unop> nucco, echo $DISPLAY
[23:26] <mOrO^> I have VERY bad choices in screen resolutions in Hardy?
[23:26] <shane2peru> has anyone done the upgrade from Gutsy?  How did it go?
[23:26] <tawt> carpark, lol  i'll fix it later.  i need to go to diner too
[23:26] <mtaylor> hwilde:  ssh mordred@camelot 'echo $DISPLAY'
[23:26] <fbc> jburd, well, i gotta catch my bus.. it was cool helping you...see you later...
[23:26] <doug2266778822> moveax:  i am asking all around and doing what i can as well so far no luck on my end.
[23:26] <tawt> carpark, i'll see you later!
[23:26] <mtaylor> hwilde: blank line
[23:26] <linxuz3r> does anyone know why SYNAPTICS network connection is slow?
[23:26] <hwilde> !fixres | mOrO^
[23:26] <ubotu> mOrO^: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:26] <nucco> unop: :0.0 but its mtaylor that needs help
[23:26] <hwilde> mtaylor, it's not going to work until that DISPLAY var is set right
[23:26] <mOrO^> hwilde: thanks
[23:26] <Lyk4n> i upgraded, and now my wireless isn't working again..
[23:26] <Lyk4n> :(
[23:27] <mOrO^> !fixres
[23:27] <unop> nucco, ohh, sorry
[23:27] <KooperKool> shane2peru: Fine, took forever though... so many people trying all at once...
[23:27] <mtaylor> hwilde: I agree - but that's ssh -X's job
[23:27] <moveax> doug2266778822: I can't understand why it won't work. Fedora 8 didn't have this issue once libdvdcss was installed.
[23:27] <milly1234> linxuz3r, repositories are busy
[23:27] <Sergiu9> !ubotu > sergiu9 language
[23:27] <evand> rchase: correct, it will not touch your existing menu.lst
[23:27] <mtaylor> nucco: don't forget to quote $DISPLAY from your local shell with ' 's
[23:27] <Tristam> My sound is crappy now that I upgraded.  :P
[23:27] <koomber> this is a silly question, but if I have to switch my bios SATA settings from IDE to RAID mode to install Ubuntu, will I still be able to reinstall Vista oncein raid (as Vista will not boot unless in IDE at teh moment)
[23:27] <B-rabbit> shane2peru, not too good for me, i had to reinstall feasty back( i am not try to put u off, from doing it lol) and firefox stoped working when i upgreded
[23:27] <whirlybird20> ﻿When I click record on xvidcap the program closes, Wink wont open at all, and Istanbul crashes when you click record. Does anyone know of a solution or another program that i can try?
[23:27] <amenado> mtaylor no problem here,  hardy ssh client into gutsy..forwarding X
[23:27] <shane2peru> KooperKool: but all went well
[23:27] <mtaylor> amenado: ok. thanks!
[23:27] <roffe__> unop: I didn't read it through but I did as you said and it still gave me the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64436/
[23:27] <whirlybird20> would it be better if i disabled my desktop effects?
[23:27] <KooperKool> Tristam: Is it turned up?
[23:27] <mtaylor> amenado: I'll keep checking my setup
[23:28] <Tristam> KooperKool, I hear it just fine, but it's very distorted
[23:28] <KooperKool> shane2peru: Yeah.... no problems.
[23:28] <shane2peru> B-rabbit: sorry, I meant gutsy
[23:28] <psych> hi, why wireless have to be manually configured to work after reboot ?
[23:28] <Itaku> nucco: it still doesnt ask me for a root pass again
[23:28] <DBautell> !ot > DBautell
[23:28] <johnmike> Whats the best way to back up my system in case anything happens when upgrading?
[23:28] <shane2peru> KooperKool: did you have gutsy?
[23:28] <towlie> when i run virtualbox i get this error "The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist". i installed the virtualbox-ose-modules but am still getting this error. can anyone help
[23:28] <drivetrax> Through painful experience and sleepless nights, I finally figure out how to install Ubuntu or any kind of Lux distro to an external USB drive.
[23:28] <drivetrax> The key idea is to modify the mini ramdisk to start USB support module during the boot sequence.
[23:28] <hwilde> mtaylor, ssh -X mordred@camelot DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 xterm
[23:28] <mOrO^> fixres!
[23:28] <GreenFuze> EruditeHermit - I'm still working on it. I just found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=742382 , seems quite helpful.
[23:28] <nucco> Itaku: remind me what we were talking about please :p
[23:28] <moveax> doug2266778822: I get an error: "Cannot read from resource" - when trying DVDs.
[23:28] <KooperKool> Tristam: It's probabaly your speakers. I'm using new speakers cuz my old ones were bad.
[23:29] <mtaylor> hwilde: yup. tried that. no dice :(
[23:29] <jburd> thanks fcb that works :-)
[23:29] <doug2266778822> moveax:  same here. XO
[23:29] <LARefugee> Hi. Anyone try upgrading to Hardy from Dapper?
[23:29] <mOrO^> !fixres
[23:29] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[23:29] <szenti> Hi everzbodz$
[23:29] <Tristam> KooperKool, it's not the speakers, it does the same thing with headphones and my laptop speakers.
[23:29] <hwilde> mtaylor, try 1-10.0   one of them has to work
[23:29] <KooperKool> shane2peru: yes.
[23:29] <szenti> Hi everybody!
[23:29] <nucco> who wants libdvdcss should go to www.medibuntu.org
[23:29] <hwilde> mtaylor, when I ssh -X to another machine and echo $DISPLAY it says localhost:10.0
[23:29] <KooperKool> Tristam:ok
[23:29] <Tristam> And it worked just fine before the upgrade.  :P
[23:29] <mtaylor> AHA
[23:29] <szenti> How many swap space should I assign to make hibernation work?
[23:29] <shane2peru> KooperKool: great, thanks!  I'm tempted to give it a try, the cdrom died today, so upgrade, or just stay are my only choices at the moment.
[23:29] <hwilde> szenti, 2x your ram
[23:29] <szenti> *assign=allocate
[23:29] <masterjail> hello
[23:29] <livingdaylight> !compiz
[23:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[23:29] <johnnyftw> hi.
[23:29] <whirlybird20> I can't get any screen video capture software working
[23:29] <fxfitz> My parents all of a sudden lost their internet on their ubuntu computer. When they do 'sudo /etc/init.d/network restart' It says "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" Does anyone know what this means?
[23:30] <nucco> szenti: as big as your RAM
[23:30] <johnnyftw> I have an issue ...
[23:30] <milly1234> ugh... to heck with this, I am buying a new wireless card, sounds to me that the rt2500pci drivers have been an issue with ubuntu for a while with alot of cards although not all, but alot
[23:30] <szenti> hwilde, should I create two separate swap partitions?
[23:30] <mtaylor> hwilde, amenado: for some reason xauth wasn't installed
[23:30] <KooperKool> Tirstam: Did you upgrade before the 23rd?
[23:30] <hwilde> fxfitz, check the /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:30] <shane2peru> KooperKool: however if upgrade fails, ohh, I'm dead. :)  I'll be shopping for a cdrom. lol
[23:30] <hwilde> szenti, no, one partition, 2x the size of your ram, so it can write the whole ram to swap
[23:30] <amenado> mtaylor ahh, that surely will prevent you from getting in
[23:30] <masterjail> anyone knows in which file the settings of the login screen are?
[23:30] <szenti> hwilde, thx
[23:30] <Veinor> If I don't have a spare blank CD-R handy, can I mount the alternate CD on loopback and update that way?
[23:30] <Darknezz> amenado: sorry i dont understand  '127.0.0.1 localhost.myhomedomain.com localhost pwnd' myhomedomain does not need to be a .com right?
[23:30] <psych> hi, why wireless have to be manually configured to work after reboot ? someone can help me?
[23:30] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- still here?
[23:30] <heartsblood> is there any advantage to running a software raid0 over raid1?
[23:30] <johnnyftw> I'm getting a black screen when I go to install Ubuntu 8.0.4, This is before installing.
[23:31] <DBautell> !ISO | Veinor
[23:31] <ubotu> Veinor: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[23:31] <mtaylor> amenado: can you do "ls /usr/bin/X11/xauth" for me?
[23:31] <hwilde> psych, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:31] <corbett> drivetrax: yeh
[23:31] <unop> Veinor, it's better to upgrade directly from the repos
[23:31] <fxfitz> hwilde, What exactly should I be looking for?
[23:31] <kenan> hi, i installed hardy heron and i still cant allow multiple applications access soundcard, how come?
[23:31] <amenado> Darknezz-> yes, i just made up  myhomedomain.com  make one your own
[23:31] <Lyk4n> psych: did you upgrade? I'm having an issue with my wireless..
[23:31] <darkcrab> whenever I play a DVD in 8.04 LTS, it plays fine, but the sound is really low even when I have the sound turned all the way up, anyone know a fix??
[23:31] <LARefugee> fxfitz: The kernel and/or udev didn't enumerate your ethernet interface as "eth0" probably eth1
[23:31] <drivetrax> corbett:  read pls.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[23:31] <amenado> mtaylor on hardy?
[23:31] <Veinor> unop: no net access on the computer I want to upgrade.
[23:31] <eArThLiNg> Hi all
[23:31] <seamus7> fxfitz did they try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:31] <shane2peru> KooperKool: thanks for the info.
[23:31] <hwilde> fxfitz, you should be looking for iface eth0=eth0 and it should just say   iface eth0
[23:31] <fxfitz> seamus7, Yeah
[23:31] <psych> i just installed hardy Lyk4n
[23:31] <KooperKool> shane2peru: one thing is it's just like an upgrade. You can still use the computer (Dont like, work though, the update can lose files that are open in e.g. gedit) It'll probably take like what 5+ Hours, though.
[23:31] <psych> wireless is working
[23:31] <KooperKool> dang
[23:31] <psych> but ive to set it up
[23:31] <mtaylor> amenado: nevermind... I thought mine was missing, just slow tab completion
[23:31] <Veinor> DBautell: I know how to mount it, I was just wondering if it'd work as well if I mounted that was as opposed to burning to actual cd
[23:31] <KooperKool> he left
[23:31] <psych> every reboot
[23:32] <darkcrab> whenever I play a DVD in 8.04 LTS, it plays fine, but the sound is really low even when I have the sound turned all the way up, anyone know a fix??
[23:32] <hwilde> fxfitz, if your interfaces are swapping names check /etc/iftab
[23:32] <DBautell> Veinor, it worked for me, very well
[23:32] <Veinor> darkcrab: check the DVD program volume control?
[23:32] <heartsblood> has anybody here worked with software raid configurations in dept?
[23:32] <Cpudan80> Can anyone get sound to play from XChat when you are listening to music in Rhythmbox ?
[23:32] <hwilde> darkcrab, alsamixer   from the command line
[23:32] <moveax> darkcrab: thank your self lucky you can even play dvds
[23:32] <darkcrab> it is turned all the way up veinor
[23:32] <Crshman> Hi all, i'm trying to upgrade using an alternate cd (i've burned it to a DVD)....
[23:32] <nucco> darkcrab check the mixer settings
[23:32] <Cpudan80> In Hardy Heron
[23:32] <moveax> darkcrab: i can't even get them playing
[23:32] <roffe__> unop: is it possible to get it compiled somehow even if not every dependency is there?
[23:32] <unop> Veinor, you can use an ISO offline like that sure, but it needs to be an alternate CD ISO not the normal live CD
[23:32] <Crshman> i insert the disk and it says "a volume with software packages has been detected" so i start the package manager.....
[23:32] <Cpudan80> For whatever reason, the sounds from XCHat never play (ex. the highlight sound)
[23:32] <nucco> darkcrab: and make sure its not from the disc you're playing
[23:32] <Darknezz> amenado: and everything else would still stay the same?
[23:32] <cronix> hello guys, ive installed ubuntu8.04 and got and error21 from grub (Selected disk does not exist.), now i am in command line interface of grub, and i know that ubuntu is on hd0,2 .. can u tell me with which command i can boot up ubuntu from here on?
[23:32] <darkcrab> kk
[23:32] <hwilde> Crshman, you have to boot from the cd
[23:32] <milly1234> anyone know of a really good wireless pci card with no issues in Hardy? my linksys using the rt2500pci module is pretty much junk
[23:32] <amenado> Darknezz-> yes
[23:33] <psych> hwilde, http://pastebin.com/m3aa7dd23
[23:33] <umpc|ubuntu> i just got hardy and my wireless doesnt work
[23:33] <Crshman> hwilde, i can't update it from within the distro?
[23:33] <unop> roffe__, no, without the right headers the compile will definitely fail - thats how code works
[23:33] <kbrooks> cronix, to help...
[23:33] <heartsblood> cronix: I had that to, are you running a raid setup by any chance?
[23:33] <towlie> is hardy supposed to use 2.6.22.14 kernel  ?
[23:33] <milly1234> or rt2x00 module
[23:33] <hwilde> Crshman, you have to boot from the cd
[23:33] <nucco> !grub | cronix
[23:33] <ubotu> cronix: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:33] <kbrooks> cronix, root (hd0,2)
[23:33] <mtaylor> amenado: I didn't have xauth on the server, I should clarify
[23:33] <whirlybird20> ﻿When I click record on xvidcap the program closes, Wink wont open at all, and Istanbul crashes when you click record. Does anyone know of a solution or maybe another screen capturing program?
[23:33] <josh04> Does anyone know when we're getting an Ibex board on ubuntuforums.org :P
[23:33] <umpc|ubuntu> i just got hardy and my wireless does'nt work how can i fix this?
[23:33] <unop> roffe__, does that package come with a README/INSTALL file?
[23:33] <hwilde> psych, put "auto wlan0" on the line before iface wlan0   and it will come up automatically
[23:33] <psych> hwilde, got it?
[23:33] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[23:33] <kenan> hi, i installed hardy heron and i still cant allow multiple applications access soundcard, how come?
[23:33] <milly1234> umpc|ubuntu, I've been trying to figure that one out too
[23:33] <kbrooks> cronix, then kernel /boot/<replace this with pressing the tab key>
[23:33] <DaveG|> hey, how do i upgrade my 7.10 to 8.04 by just using a cd? i don't want to download all the files again.
[23:33] <roffe__> unop: yeah, a very basic one.. pastbin? :)
[23:33] <josh04> kenan: Which appliations?
[23:34] <Darknezz> amenado: thanks for the help it works now :-D
[23:34] <unop> roffe__, ok sure
[23:34] <Crshman> DBautell, i've tried this
[23:34] <szenti> hwilde, do you recommend me to create a separate /home partition?
[23:34] <Veinor> DaveG|: what do you mean 'download all the files'?
[23:34] <kbrooks> cronix, then initrd /boot/<replace this with pressing the tab key>
[23:34] <DBautell> Crshman, and I just did it
[23:34] <amenado> Darknezz-> cool
[23:34] <kbrooks> cronix, then boot
[23:34] <kenan> josh04: well an example is youtube videos and rhythmbox
[23:34] <DaveG|> Veinor, by doing it using update-manger -d
[23:34] <szenti> I know it's safer to have one.
[23:34] <amenado> Darknezz-> thats hardy?
[23:34] <KooperKool> DaveG|: boot to it
[23:34] <hwilde> szenti, if you want to.  it's a personal preference
[23:34] <szenti> And it's easier to backup.
[23:34] <umpc|ubuntu> milly1234 they need to take ubuntu 7 wifi support and put it in 8
[23:34] <DaveG|> KooperKool, i don't want to burn a cd :P
[23:34] <josh04> kenan: try installing libflashsupport with synaptic
[23:34] <kbrooks> cronix, in kernel and initrd when you tab you need to look for the revelant files, eg vmlinuz
[23:34] <nucco> hwilde: why won't you recommend it off-hand?
[23:34] <psych> hwilde, ty, gonna test it
[23:34] <Veinor> daveg| download the alternate cd ISO and mount it loopback
[23:34] <kbrooks> cronix, andb initrd, from the tab completion
[23:34] <Darknezz> amenado: ya. just instaled it yesterday and never used linux besides at school (basics)
[23:35] <KooperKool> DaveG|: What Version Of Ubuntu do you have?
[23:35] <nucco> hwilde: I mean the separate /home partition
[23:35] <kbrooks> cronix, do you understand?
[23:35] <DaveG|> KooperKool, 7.10
[23:35] <Veinor> You'll still have to download a huge file but you won't need to make a CD
[23:35] <southafrikanse> hello. I have a problem with Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5 on Hardy Heron. I installed the wrong plugin to watch videos on youtube but now I'm unable to remove it.
[23:35] <cronix> no, root (hd0,2) does not return any errors, but nothing happens either :>
[23:35] <KooperKool> DaveG|: go to System--Administration--Update Manager
[23:35] <Tristam> So anyone have ideas on why my sound is horribly distorted after the upgrade?  I've got an Nvidia MCP51 HDA
[23:35] <hwilde> nucco, if you want to deal with that fine, it's not really much difference
[23:36] <evilbug> i upgraded to hardy via alternative cd and i had a bunch of errors on some components not being able to install.then i ran "sudo apt-get -f install" after reboot and now things work alright,but the grub boot menu is showing me 2 different ubuntu options.both are 8.04 but one is with the previous kernel and the first one is the current kernel.
[23:36] <hwilde> nucco, might be easier to switch to aq different repo later on
[23:36] <Crshman> DBautell, when i try to use the dvd as a source it gives me the error: "E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc"
[23:36] <amenado> Darknezz-> well make a note of that, i noticed it earlier and didnt think much of it,  that line in /etc/hosts has to be corrected..i tried to set that via n-m and know it does not work
[23:36] <cronix> what is that with initrd? it sais that the kernel must be loaded before
[23:36] <KooperKool> I dont think HDA is good on Hardy
[23:36] <SirBob1701> hey guys when i try to update vmware on hardy on my desktop i get " make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 " does anyone know a solution?
[23:36] <josh04> Tristam: Just an offhand guess, but try going to the mixer and turning PCM down, then up again
[23:36] <nucco> southafrikanse: check your ~/.firefox folder or wherever firefox hides its settings, you might find something deletable there
[23:36] <DaveG|> KooperKool, yeah, and then?
[23:36] <GreenFuze> EruditeHermit: Here is the solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=742382
[23:36] <szenti> Hmm, this new release [8.04] of Ubuntu is more complete than the previous one. I'm glad I can use it. :)
[23:36] <KooperKool> Click the Check Button
[23:36] <amenado> cronix-> what are you trying to do?
[23:36] <nucco> hwilde: yeah, makes it easy to do clean installs without losing data
[23:36] <livingdaylight> FF3 doesn't allow Delicious bookmarks?
[23:37] <mythic> i had trouble with vmware on a hardy beta before because the vmware modules would not build on the new kernel
[23:37] <KooperKool> DaveG|: Click the check button
[23:37] <szenti> livingdaylight, install firefox-2 ...
[23:37] <roffe__> unop: it claims I'm a spammer :) can I send the install file to you instaed?
[23:37] <DaveG|> KooperKool, ok
[23:37] <jaffarkelshac> got that fixed mythic
[23:37] <southafrikanse> nucco, if I unnistal and install mozilla again will that help?
[23:37] <hwilde> nucco, or you could just copy youre /home directory it's really not that hard
[23:37] <unop> roffe__, use the !pastebin
[23:37] <DBautell> Crshman, it worked for me by running 'gksudo /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade' from a terminal
[23:37] <unop> !pastebin > roffe__
[23:37] <cronix> i want to boot up ubuntu, but grub shows up an error21 (cant find disks or sth). but i know that ubuntu is on hd0,2 ..
[23:37] <mythic> awesome
[23:37] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:37] <KooperKool> DaveG|: when its done, at the top it should say "A New OS is avaible" Or somthing like that
[23:37] <livingdaylight> szenti, i might have to... Hardy came with FF3 so i been using that, but i'm not sure it is better than FF2. What is the differnce?
[23:37] <roffe__> unop: yeah, but it says I'm a spammer for doing it three times now :/
[23:38] <DaveG|> KooperKool, it says it already actually xD
[23:38] <nucco> southafrikanse: I doubt that, but look in that folder, and if you see something named similar to the offending plugin, remove it.
[23:38] <Darknezz> amenado: i have one more question when i do install xmms2 it seems to work (in terminal) then when i go to applications i cant find it. when i run it again it says no updated available making it sound like its installed. i also run it (xmms2) and all i get is a list of commands (stop, play, shuffle ect.)
[23:38] <n000b> .
[23:38] <Acxty> hi guys, how can I connect to a proxy server. I have the domain, user and passwd
[23:38] <Tux2008> hi
[23:38] <DaveG|> KooperKool, but it doesn't attempt to get it from the CD i don't think
[23:38] <pagoda> i downgraded to firefox-2 and now i can't open it.
[23:38] <Tux2008> How do I check if a deamon (/etc/init.d/ssh) is already runing????
[23:38] <unop> roffe__, pastebin.com then
[23:38] <n000b> how do i get ubuntu to work better with my graphics card
[23:38] <nucco> hwilde: copying a 100G /home partition isn't something I like to do over and over :)
[23:38] <szenti> livingdaylight, I've been using FF3 beta5 since a week and I've found out that some extensions are not yet upgraded to support it.
[23:38] <josh04> Tux2008: ps -a|grep ssh
[23:38] <pagoda> it says firefox is already running, but i just rebooted
[23:38] <KooperKool> DaveG|: The 8.04 installation files aren't on a CD unless you downloaded the cd ISO
[23:38] <Darknezz> amenado: i dont know if im doing somthing wrong or its a bug with xmms2 or ubuntu
[23:38] <Crshman> DBautell, i just tried that and it says "Failed to add the CD", the error message was: "E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc"
[23:38] <Tristam> josh04, I don't know why, but that seemed to work
[23:38] <ripps> What's up dawgs!
[23:39] <amenado> Darknezz-> did the install completed?
[23:39] <Tux2008> josh04 : thanks a lot!!!
[23:39] <szenti> For example Firebug...
[23:39] <Starnestommy> Tristam: ps aux | grep ssh
[23:39] <n000b> how do i get ubuntu to work better with my graphics card
[23:39] <Darknezz> ya
[23:39] <Starnestommy> er, whoops.
[23:39] <cronix> i think that it is just a wrong link in the grub config, cause i had ubuntu installed before. but when i use root (hd0,2) ... nothing happens, i need one more command like "boot this shit :)"
[23:39] <Darknezz> amenado: ya
[23:39] <josh04> Tristam: No idea either, but it worked for me too :P
[23:39] <josh04> Tux2008 np
[23:39] <livingdaylight> szenti, yes, that's no good. Delicious is like essential to me
[23:39] <Tristam> josh04, Thanks much
[23:39] <milly1234> hi, I am having a problem with my rt2500pci wireless linksys card in Ubuntu Hardy being insanely slow nomatter what and it is performing basically how this describes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/190515  but I don't exactly understand how to go about resolving this issue
[23:39] <DaveG|> KooperKool, i have the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso mounted so
[23:39] <roffe__> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64438/
[23:39] <szenti> I'm using two Firefox versions parallel on my windows machine.
[23:39] <n000b> how do i get ubuntu to work better with a graphics card
[23:39] <amenado> Darknezz-> i dont know xmms, you have to dig around where it resides..dont know if you need to log of and log back on
[23:39] <fxfitz> hwilde, Okay, I just called them and they have the same /etc/nework/interfaces file as I do, it says "auto eth0" and "#iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[23:39] <KooperKool> DaveG|: oh! Why didn't you say so. Just burn it to A CD, then boot to it.
[23:39] <szenti> I think it can be managed to work on Ubuntu as well.
[23:39] <fxfitz> hwilde, Any ideas?
[23:40] <chefkoch842> hello everybody. my question is: how can i decide which driver is loaded afer a usb connet ?  ( i have the drivers pwc and gspca ( both for webcam). pwc would be the better one for mine.  the module is loaded ( sudo modprobe pwc ) the other driver is unloaded ( sudo rmmod gspca). BUT when i plugin the cam i allways get:
[23:40] <n000b> how do i get ubuntu to work better with a graphics card
[23:40] <teamcobra> has anyone found a workaround for the segfaulting gnome-keyring-daemon?
[23:40] <amenado> fxfitz-> what is the problem?
[23:40] <DaveG|> KooperKool, lol, but i don't want to burn =/ i don't have any CDs
[23:40] <chefkoch842> usbcore: registered new interface driver Philips webcam[  811.098927] usb 1-4: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6[  811.311551] usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice[  811.386024] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-generic/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: USB GSPCA camera found.(ZC3XX)
[23:40] <nucco> n000b: you really gotta define "better"
[23:40] <DBautell> Crshman, that makes me wonder if it's a bad burn or if having the CD on a DVD is confusing to the system... I used the DVD image... You are using alternate? and, is your system otherwise up to date?
[23:40] <Darknezz> amenado: i have restarted and logged off and on, and still nothing
[23:40] <DJDarkstar> Hi, anyone use Cheese? Need to know of anyway to increase contrast or brightness
[23:40] <hwilde> fxfitz, that line should not start with a pound symbol - it's commented out
[23:40] <fxfitz> amenado, My parents just lost all their internet at their house. When they do /etc/init.d/network restart, it says "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[23:40] <B_166-ER-X> Just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04, and my other Hard Drives (one in ext3, and one in NTFS Windows xp)   are no more auto detected after startup.   how can i turn this back on ?
[23:40] <Tux2008> Im not using ssh, but I see it running, (as a process) , should I turn it off????
[23:40] <n000b> how do i get ubuntu to work with my graphics card. period.
[23:41] <ripps> n000b: what's your card
[23:41] <KooperKool> DaveG|: Then you have to update from the update manager or go out and buy some CD-Rs.
[23:41] <unop> roffe__, ok, try this.   sudo aptitude install xsltproc; ./configure   # and then pastebin the output of configure again
[23:41] <n000b> nvidia
[23:41] <hwilde> fxfitz, tell them to type   "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"   "sudo dhclient eth0"
[23:41] <poseidon> Whats a good cd burner?
[23:41] <nucco> n000b: you mean you can't see anything? or what exactly is the problem? giving you errors?
[23:41] <amenado> Darknezz-> i dont know much about xmms..cant get you anymore help
[23:41] <Crshman> DBautell, I am using a DVD, i tried to mount the image aswell and it didn't work....the system is up to date
[23:41] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- the only other thing I saw was where a person tried to use USP IPod..
[23:41] <KooperKool> The built in one
[23:41] <n000b> the screen is just a little blurry
[23:41] <evilbug> i upgraded to hardy via alternative cd and i had a bunch of errors on some components not being able to install.then i ran "sudo apt-get -f install" after reboot and now things work alright,but the grub boot menu is showing me 2 different ubuntu options.both are 8.04 but one is with the previous kernel and the first one is the current kernel.
[23:41] <DJDarkstar> poseidon k3b is
[23:41] <DaveG|> KooperKool, =/
[23:41] <roffe__> unop: should the # you wrote be part of the command?
[23:41] <newborn_> bonjour a tous.Je cherche un canal d'aide francais.qui peut m'aider?
[23:41] <fxfitz> hwilde, So, take out the # and save the file. And then: sudo ifconfig eth0 up and sudo dhclient eth0??
[23:41] <ahboy> hey guys how would i find out what kind of mother board i have
[23:41] <Vespy> hey guys anyone know anything about beryl/3ddesktop? it was working fine on my computer before but then randomly the shortcut stopped working, and i tried all the settings but nothing seems to activate it
[23:41] <Darknezz> amenado: xmms2 tray seems to work (but i used add/remove on ubuntu)
[23:41] <seamus7> B_166-ER-X (your nickname is difficult) are you sure those drives aren't listed in Places?
[23:41] <n000b> and media is squary
[23:41] <KooperKool> poseidon: The one that's built in to the file manager.
[23:41] <unop> roffe__, well, it can be .. :) but no
[23:41] <amenado> fxfitz-> are you at your parents house now?
[23:41] <ahboy> i know its a dell but not sure what one
[23:42] <Darknezz> amenado: kk thanks
[23:42] <amenado> Darknezz no sweats
[23:42] <hwilde> fxfitz, they should fix the file yes, but if they just type   "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"  that will bring up the interface, and "sudo dhclient eth0"  that will grab dhcp, then you can ssh in and fix it yourself?
[23:42] <drivetrax> corbett:  -- if the volume name cannot be re-labled, then to format that drive ext3.. might be all can do.  But talk to Maxtor First.. directly thru their support
[23:42] <fxfitz> amenado, Hehe hell no. I have to call them and phonetically spell "sudo /etc" - It takes forever
[23:42] <n000b> i cant stand this blurry screen
[23:42] <DJDarkstar> anyone using Cheese? my camera works but it is way too dark
[23:42] <fxfitz> hwilde, Oh okay, that sounds like a good idea.
[23:42] <corbett> drivetrax: yeh, im still struggling , gong thro those help pages - perhaps i shoud get onto maxtor
[23:42] <nucco> B166erx: someone's been watching the animatrix :P
[23:42] <B166erx> seamus7 , well they are in thee 'Shortcut' menu, and in the Taskbar Mount app. , but Saying 'not mounted'
[23:42] <amenado> fxfitz-> be nice, you may have to come home for a nice warm dinner...lol
[23:43] <B166erx> nucco , indeed ;)
[23:43] <n000b> can anyone help?
[23:43] <drivetrax> corbett:  --- Well, I would not format it, if there is data on it, until I had talked with Maxtor, and asked alot about USB2.0 in Gutsy..
[23:43] <seamus7> b166erx can't you just right-click on them and choose mount?
[23:43] <ripps> n000b: have you tried installing the nvidia binary driver?
[23:43] <n000b> ripps how do i do that
[23:44] <nucco> n000b: restricted-manager
[23:44] <corbett> drivetrax: i have backed up my data to a pc at work
[23:44] <ripps> n000b: hold on while a find a good guide online
[23:44] <DBautell> Crshman, I'm afraid I can't be much help... Like I said, I mounted the DVD iso to /media/cdrom, and just ran /media/cdrom/cdromupdate . Is that file there?
[23:44] <n000b> ok
[23:44] <ahboy> anyone know how to find out what kind of mother board i have i tried lspci but doesnt tell me.. i know its a dell rev02 but i dont know the model of the computer that goes with. basically this computer was rebuilt but no longer has the dell tower
[23:44] <drivetrax> corbett:  GREAT!
[23:44] <Fogel1497> When I play movies using the default media player in Ubuntu the frame rate is so low it is unwatchable. Any suggestions?
[23:44] <B166erx> seamus7  'Impossible to mount selected Volume'    ntfs-3g:Failed to acess volume '/dev/hda1': no such file or directory
[23:44] <darkcrab> the alsamixer fixed my low sound on my DVD's, but now I have absolutely no sound on my youtube videos, anyone know a fix? I am using 8.04 lts
[23:44] <roffe__> unop: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64439/
[23:44] <ripps> n000b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[23:44] <n000b> thanks
[23:45] <Fogel1497> AHBOY: Try Everest Home Edition. I believe they have a linux version.
[23:45] <amenado> ahboy open the tower and read the labels?
[23:45] <Fogel1497> This will diagnose your computers hardware components
[23:45] <ahboy> amenado i tried that too
[23:45] <kane77> what is some iPod management tool that can work with iPodlinux?
[23:45] <darkcrab> the alsamixer fixed my low sound on my DVD's, but now I have absolutely no sound on my youtube videos, anyone know a fix?
[23:45] <B166erx> Fogel1497,  'sysinfo'   does that too, in linux
[23:45] <amenado> ahboy i bet its labeled in chinese chars? hehe
[23:45] <yoni> Hi all
[23:45] <drivetrax> darkcrab:  -- mebe it broke Flash_9  ?
[23:46] <|jess|> hello. I have installed ubuntu, and I installed the bootloader on the same partition. I boot from mbr where I have another grub, and then chainload to the ubuntu grub. The problem: all entries in the ubuntu grub gives this error message: Error 15: File not found
[23:46] <n000b> can anyone tell me what the disadvantages are to xubuntu?
[23:46] <yoni> I'm sure that in feisty I could got access automaticly to my ntfs partitions..
[23:46] <|jess|> Any ideas what I have done wrong?
[23:46] <josh04> darkcrab: install libflashsupport
[23:46] <seamus7> B166erx I remember that the directory that the drive gets mounted to must already exist ... maybe that's the issue ... does /dev/hda1/ directory exist?
[23:46] <Fogel1497> Anyone know why my framerate for playing movies is so low in the default ubuntu media player
[23:46] <yoni> now I'm using the hardy version... & I have my external 500GB (2 partitions) NTFS
[23:46] <darkcrab> thank you josh
[23:46] <yoni> how can I mount them to the system?
[23:46] <nucco> seamus7: why would you want to create a directory named /dev/hda1 ?
[23:46] <Redbull> moi
[23:46] <josh04> darkcrab: thank me when it works :P
[23:47] <milly1234> anyone know of a good wireless card that works at full speed out of the box with hardy?
[23:47] <Fogel1497> YONI i just had the same problem
[23:47] <milly1234> wireless pci card
[23:47] <ahboy> lol
[23:47] <n000b> can anyone tell me what the disadvantages are to xubuntu?
[23:47] <nucco> seamus7: you could mount the iso to any folder in your /home
[23:47] <nucco> n000b: it's a matter of choice or preference
[23:47] <darkcrab> just so you know other flash works, its just you tube
[23:47] <yoni> Fogel1497: I hapy to know that you had :) How can I solve it as well?
[23:47] <n000b> nucco: but whats the difference?
[23:47] <seamus7> nucco: I'm only referring to the message B166erx included ... looks like the drive was attempting to mount in that particular directory ...
[23:48] <drivetrax> Just YouTube. OMG.. I'm falling out!
[23:48] <Danikar> n000b: The GUI is less resource intesive.
[23:48] <nucco> darkcrab: have you tried that pulse-audio volume manager?
[23:48] <Fogel1497> YONI I PM'd you. Visit this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:48] <psych> hwilde, didnt work
[23:48] <ripps> n000b: Xubuntu using XFCE desktop instead of Gnome, it's more lightweight. It more of a desktop preference
[23:48] <masterjail> anyone knows in which file the settings of the login screen are?
[23:48] <Fogel1497> ﻿YONI I PM'd you. Visit this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[23:48] <darkcrab> doing it now.
[23:48] <Danikar> n000b: But imo not as nice, but as darkcrab said matter of preference.
[23:48] <nucco> n000b: you gotta try it to really know. I'm too used to GNOME/Ubuntu to try anything else on my own
[23:48] <darkcrab> brb
[23:48] <yoni> Fogel1497: thanks a lot!!! :)
[23:48] <Fogel1497> NP!
[23:48] <milly1234> please, I know someone here might be using a good wireless card with ubuntu 8.04, one that works well, at full speed, no problems, that sort of stuff, I am trying to find one that will work unlike the one I have, which worked in 7.10 but now is terrible in 8.04
[23:48] <doug2266778822> moveax: you find any thing yet?
[23:48] <n000b> how do i switch to XFCE?
[23:49] <KooperKool> !xfce | n000b
[23:49] <ubotu> n000b: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[23:49] <J-a-k-e> hi does about sound quality and ubuntu?
[23:49] <Steve^> How can I make more than 4 partitions on a disk?
[23:49] <B166erx> seamus7 ok , getting weirder now : the HD are accesible from the 'Workstation' (I use ubuntu in french, so traducing ) its there and called 'Media 40.1 gig'  (so is my other 'Media 320 gig' ) wich both used to be called respectively, Windows' and 'Barracuda'  and showed on the desktop.
[23:49] <nucco> steve^ make them inside a logical partition, then you can have up to 64
[23:49] <storm-zen> is there a place on this server to go for assistance with a simple legal statement?
[23:49] <ripps> J-a-k-e: What's wrong with your sound quality?
[23:49] <n000b> brb
[23:49] <Steve^> nucco, I make a logical one and it just takes up all the space, do I need to make it of a certain type?
[23:50] <zeeeee> help, i got a major problem!  after trying to upgrade, it failed, told me my system may be in an "unusable state", and now after rebooting, gnome won't start (i just see a tan wallpaper and nothing else)
[23:50] <pagoda> has anyone downgraded to firefox 2 in hardy?
[23:50] <hwilde> zeeeee, ctrl+alt+f1   go to terminal
[23:50] <zeeeee> *it = the update process
[23:50] <nucco> Steve^ you make a logical one, then make the others inside of the logical one
[23:50] <zeeeee> hwilde, i'm there
[23:50] <zeeeee> hwilde, i ran:
[23:50] <KooperKool> zeeeee: Did you use Wubi?
[23:50] <zeeeee> dpkg --configure -a
[23:50] <hwilde> zeeeee, just run "apt-get upgrade"
[23:50] <nucco> Steve^ think of the logical one as just a container. don't need a type
[23:50] <zeeeee> KooperKool, perhaps not, what is it?
[23:51] <moveax> doug2266778822: I've asked a local mailing group of mine who I met up with yesterday. During the meeting they suggested Ubuntu as it, "justs works." So, I'm putting their expert (most of them are Dr's of IT) to the test.
[23:51] <zeeeee> hwilde, that tells me to run dpkg --configure -a
[23:51] <KooperKool> !Wubi | zeeeee
[23:51] <ubotu> zeeeee: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.
[23:51] <zeeeee> KooperKool, no i'm upgrading from 7.10
[23:51] <hwilde> zeeeee, ok what does that tell you
[23:51] <Steve^> nucco, I'm doing this from inside the installer, I don't see how to make a logical without a type, nor how to add to a logical partition
[23:51] <zeeeee> hwilde, i'll paste..
[23:51] <hwilde> zeeeee, pastebin!
[23:51] <roffe__> unop: If you've given up, I can more than well understand it :)
[23:51] <hwilde> !pastebin | zeeeee
[23:51] <ubotu> zeeeee: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[23:51] <B166erx> seamus7 , and in the 'File system'   in /media there is 2 folder called 'Disk' and Disk-1 , which contains my Hard drives files
[23:51] <Steve^> nucco, perhaps I make all my partions as "logical" and it'll figure it out itself?
[23:51] <B166erx> 'weirder'
[23:51] <KooperKool> zeeeee: It crashed my Ubuntu and my Windows. I bascially had to wipe my harsd drive
[23:51] <nucco> Steve^ please explain what you're trying to accomplish
[23:52] <unop> roffe__, not given up, just reading up on this .. well, from http://kin.klever.net/napkin/requirements i assume you need to do this. sudo aptitude install libgtkmm-dev libsqlite3-dev autotools-dev autoconf automake libtool
[23:52] <zeeeee> KooperKool, i'm sorry to hear that!
[23:52] <harfg> any one using flumotion successfully with hardy?
[23:52] <drivetrax> Steve^:  if You see a partition, hit enter.. on it, and then tell it what to partition, and keep doing that until you get the /swap and all of them partitioned
[23:52] <Steve^> nucco, I have 80 gigs. I want 2 gig swap, 30 gig for / and 50 for /home, but I only have 2 partitions left. you're right that I need a logical partition, but I don't see how I get this tool to do it
[23:52] <Cpudan80> pagoda: It is in there already
[23:52] <fxfitz> hwilde, Alright, well, the dhclient gave them six different "dhcpdiscover eth0 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval" and at the end it said "no dhcpoffers received"
[23:52] <zeeeee> KooperKool, i have 2 machines, both ubuntu 7.10, both had problems upgrading to 8.04 (and they were different problems)
[23:53] <hwilde> fxfitz, lan cable is unplugged, dsl modem needs rebooted, etc etc
[23:53] <jaffarkelshac> what video editors are there for hardy, that support ogg file format
[23:53] <drivetrax> Steve^:  -- hover over the logical drive name you see, and hit enter
[23:53] <Steve^> drivetrax, since you mention swap, is 2 gigs enough?
[23:53] <J-a-k-e> ripps: ubuntu 7.10, it's working alright the prob is it only just sounds "ok" to me. I'm quite picky with my sound, music sound as if the mids are exagerated and treble is flat cymbals and such sound as if they're in the background
[23:53] <adinc> can someone please tell me which kernel-version is the newest for hardy?
[23:53] <nucco> steve, delete "/" and "/home" then create a logical partition big enough to hold them both
[23:53] <n000b> once i install xubuntu can i revert back to ubuntu?
[23:53] <B166erx> seamus7 , also ( ;) ) , the Mount app ofthe task bar, lists 2 times, bothe my drives, on time as '300gig' mounted, and on time as 'Barracuda' 'not mounted' (same for the windows one)
[23:53] <nucco> Steve^: make the swap first though
[23:53] <Sindacious> Could anyone tell me why I can't download packages -.-
[23:53] <drivetrax> nucco:  -- yes.. right
[23:53] <nucco> Steve^ delete "/" and "/home" then create a logical partition big enough to hold them both
[23:53] <seamus7> B166erx ... have you looked in gconf editor ... I think it's listed in apps/nautilus/desktop ... make sure 'volumes visible' is checked
[23:53] <jaffarkelshac> adinc,  2.6.24-16
[23:53] <fxfitz> hwilde, Okay, and you're sure that would be it? Because the modem is really hard to get to and I don't want them going into the attic if they don't have to (I already had them check the ethernet cable in the back of the computer)
[23:54] <B166erx> ok
[23:54] <Cpudan80> Sindacious: the server is very slow - give it time
[23:54] <roffe__> unop: I think I had checked that they were installed from the beginning, but I'll run your command now
[23:54] <Cpudan80> Sindacious: we just released 8.04 yesterday
[23:54] <doug2266778822> moveax:  ah cool, i just uninstalled and reinstalled still getting same thing.
[23:54] <hwilde> fxfitz, are there more than one network cards?  like eth1 ?
[23:54] <n000b> once u install xubuntu can u revert back to ubuntu?
[23:54] <fxfitz> hwilde, Nope
[23:54] <hwilde> fxfitz, dhclient eth0   should get a dhcp address from whatever it's plugged into
[23:54] <drivetrax> nucco:  -- I don't think the thing is too easy to see, but I hit enter on the logical disk name, and it started needing partitions
[23:54] <ripps> J-a-k-e: Have checked in the Volume Control preferences for a Tone option. I had to enable Tone in my SBLive! 5.1 to mess with my Bass and Treble. Just turning Tone on improved sound quality.
[23:54] <adinc> jaffarkelshac: can users expect newer kernel versions for hardy and will it be installed when saying dist-upgrade
[23:54] <Steve^> nucco, drivetrax, I make my 80 gig parition, Logical (it forces me to select a type, so I select ext3), hitting enter on it just gives the "Edit parition" box. Do I need to do this outside of the installer in gparted?
[23:54] <B166erx> seamus7, Volume Visible was checked
[23:54] <seamus7> B166erx just do ALT +F2 and type gconf ... then it's apps/nautilus/desktop
[23:54] <unop> roffe__,  if thats the case, try this instead.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtkmm-dev libsqlite3-dev autotools-dev autoconf automake libtool
[23:54] <fxfitz> hwilde, Alright, well it sounds good. Thanks a lot1
[23:54] <hwilde> fxfitz, have them do "sudo ifconfig eth0 down"  "sudo ifconfig eth0 up"  "sudo dhclient eth0"
[23:54] <seamus7> B166erx oh nevermind
[23:54] <moveax> doug2266778822: I have this irssi session screened on a remote server, so if you like, keep checking back with me and I@ll let you know how I got on. Already got one reply, but it doesn't help.
[23:55] <fxfitz> hwilde, Okay will do
[23:55] <KooperKool> what happens if I Remove ubuntu-desktop?
[23:55] <jaffarkelshac> adinc, usually gets installed by update manager
[23:55] <pmcclelland> having trouble playing .mkv files they are running pretty choppy
[23:55] <doug2266778822> moveax: how i join the irrsi?
[23:55] <nucco> do you already have some windows partitions?
[23:55] <pmcclelland> using nvidia proprietary drivers
[23:55] <Joelito> Hi, I notice the icon effect while pushing the icons on the upper panel of ubuntu hardy, can I enable that effect on the menu items?
[23:55] <zeeeee> hwilde, http://rafb.net/p/agfzmf24.html
[23:55] <nucco> Steve^ do you already have some windows partitions?
[23:55] <pmcclelland> 8800 GT
[23:55] <n000b> once u install xubuntu can u revert back to ubuntu?
[23:55] <hwilde> Steve^, just use guided partitioning man!
[23:55] <adinc> final version of hardy has been released, are the updates going to be less frequent now
[23:55] <Steve^> nucco, yup, a fat16 and a ntfs
[23:55] <thompa> has there been an update since yesaterday?
[23:55] <drivetrax> Steve^:  -- I believe it is saying.. do you want to make this an ext3 partition, and to do that you Edit the partition, and Make it a Partition of that type
[23:55] <moveax> doug2266778822: haha, you don't, it's an irc client.
[23:56] <moveax> doug2266778822: btw, the gstreamer driver, i've just noticed, doesn't include dvd playback of encrypted dvds
[23:56] <nucco> Steve^, those also count as part of the 4 maximum you can have.
[23:56] <ripps> brb
[23:56] <Steve^> nucco, yea, I know
[23:56] <zeeeee> those are the errors i'm getting
[23:56] <Sindacious> Cpudan80, obviously. I just updated to it, and I'm getting lag from nowhere, and I cannot install anything through the Add/Remove
[23:56] <nucco> Steve^, so, you gotta delete all the linux partitions you have, and make them all inside a logical partition
[23:56] <zeeeee> dpkg basically crashes with a failed assertion after a bunch of failed attempts to configure packages
[23:56] <hwilde> zeeeee, sudo apt-get install x11-xfs-utils
[23:57] <Joelito> anyone?
[23:57] <nucco> Steve^ delete them all including the swap, then make a new logical partition with all the space, see what it gives you
[23:57] <Steve^> nucco, yea, but the tool won't let me make logical partitions. I'm going to try and make all swap, / and /home as "logical" and see if that works
[23:57] <thompa> firefox is causing my screen to lock up
[23:57] <seamus7> B166erx when I plug media cards in they get mounted twice ... so I don't know what's happening there
[23:57] <nucco> Steve^ you gotta delete the existing ones first, just leaving the two windows partitions you dont want to touch
[23:57] <doug2266778822> moveax: ah ok
[23:58] <zeeeee> hwilde, that just tells me to run dpkg --configure -a
[23:58] <nucco> Steve^ the logical partition also counts as part of the 4 maximum :)
[23:58] <ethana2> Got a problem with intel pro wireless 3945 abg network adapter
[23:58] <ethana2> not seeing any networks
[23:58] <Steve^> nucco, I  have the 80 gigs of free space. I select logical and it appears to just make it as a normal parition. There is nothing in the table to indicate it is logical
[23:58] <ethana2> suspected driver bug
[23:58] <hwilde> zeeeee, sorry that's way over my head.  you need to install those things that says "Package x11-xfs-utils is not installed"  bcause the other things depend on it
[23:58] <B166erx> Seamus7 i think i'm trying to 'get it' ..Ubuntu, while trying to make it simple, just keep Frakkin up everything for old timers like me.  Instead of having to go in Fstab, create a folder in /media, ect...   Hardy auto mount and detect the drives...and simply name them 'Media  **gig'     , But since i upgraded, i still have the Fstab lines and all, maybe thats it..
[23:58] <ethana2> i'm helping a guy out, his wireless isn't working, but there's no sensical reason for that
[23:58] <nucco> Steve^ when you make logical, that gives you 3 partitions including the windows ones right?
[23:59] <hansengel> Hi, I just updated to Hardy and for some reason the sound is REALLY quiet.
[23:59] <roffe__> unop: I did both the commands you gave me now, and still an error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64444/
[23:59] <hansengel> If I raise the volume to the highest it can go, it's a normal level
[23:59] <zeeeee> hwilde, yeah, i read the messages too, but the upgrade process was completely hosed
[23:59] <hansengel> My speakers are as high as they can go also
[23:59] <nucco> ethana2: explain the problem please, better chances of getting help that way
[23:59] <zeeeee> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/222096 is what happened
[23:59] <Steve^> nucco, yea, its working like I thought. You don't make a logical partition. You make them all with the "logical" option, it assigned them to sda5,6,7 and it'll make the logical bit for you
[23:59] <KooperKool> What happens if I remove ubuntu-desktop?
[23:59] <KrimZon> what's that acpi script in hardy where you can enable/disable laptop-mode?
[23:59] <hwilde> KooperKool, what do you think man?  it uninstalls the desktop
[23:59] <Steve^> nucco, its trying to be user friendly and therefore confusing people who know what they want
[23:59] <josh04> KooperKool: nothing, it's a meta-package