[00:03] just installed 8.04 on laptop, it only uses 3/4 of the screen? Is there any way to fix it? [00:04] boolka: most possibly it thinks you have some smaller monitor connected [00:04] boolka: and scales the panels to fit in that monitor [00:04] ok [00:04] how do i fix it? [00:05] what outputs does the 'xrandr' command list? [00:05] sec [00:07] if it lists something like 'TVOUT', you can do 'xrandr --output TVOUT --off' and see if it helps [00:07] TheSheep: can i msg you the paste? [00:07] !pastebin [00:07] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [00:08] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64292/ [00:09] Why does the Xubuntu site say that the new 8.10 release is supported until 2012 (i.e. 4 years)? I thought LTS versions are only supported for 3 years? [00:09] boolka2: do you have anything connected to the vga-0? an external monitor screen? [00:10] yes [00:10] my backlight is broken and thats the only way i could see [00:10] brb [00:10] boolka2: then disable the laptop's screen [00:11] boolka2: with 'xrandr --output LVDS --off' [00:12] you can also disable it in xorg.conf, but I'm not sure how, there are some posts on the forum about that [00:14] is brasero 0.6.1 reknown for not properly verifying disc integrity? [00:14] no idea, you could search the bugs [00:15] found this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/198030 but input varies === ubuntu__ is now known as vidd [00:15] Launchpad bug 198030 in brasero "brasero does not check disc integrity right" [Undecided,Incomplete] [00:16] anyone know how to format a hard drive via live cd so i can boot and add the drive to my system? [00:17] vidd: there is no gparted on the livecd? [00:17] when i ran gparted from tty, it was all messed up [00:17] fun [00:18] you can always run mkfs.whatever [00:23] TheSheep, what i want to do is remove all the partitions on /dev/hdc and make it on 80gig partition [00:24] vidd: use fdisk then [00:24] fdisk /dev/hdc [00:24] vidd: note that it doesn't format, it only creates partitions [00:25] TheSheep: thanks, it worked. Do i have to do it every time I connect it to external monitor? [00:25] and what does LVDs stand for? [00:25] LVDS is the laptop's built-in LCD screen [00:25] parted is the command line version of gparted - it will gormat - man parted for help [00:26] *format [00:26] Ah i see [00:26] boolka2: you can disable LVDS in xorg.conf, just every graphics card driver uses different options for that [00:26] TheSheep: how do i go about activating the svideo? [00:27] boolka2: I have an intel card and I had to disable my tvout, because it thought it is connected and wans't using the whole screen [00:27] boolka2: connect something to svideo and do 'xrandr --output S-video --auto' [00:28] I got an ati mobility radeon 9200 [00:28] okay let me try [00:28] boolka2: no idea about atis [00:32] :D [00:32] hallo [00:32] hello KiFka [00:34] how to switch back from svideo TheSheep [00:34] ? [00:35] just disable it with -off [00:35] --off [00:35] and enable others with --auto [00:38] hmm [00:38] well it didnt work [00:39] nothing appeared on my tv [00:39] does the 'xrandr' show S-video connected? [00:39] i cant check [00:40] ? [00:40] when i turn on svideo , my monitor shuts off [00:40] that's weird [00:40] nothing appears on tv [00:41] it should display on all outputs simultaneusly just fine :/ [00:41] svideo and vga? [00:41] yeah [00:41] maybe this is something specific to your card or driver [00:41] but then it should at least display something on the tv [00:42] gotta go to bed, good luck with that, alt+ctrl+backspace restarts X in case you mess somehting [00:43] thanks [00:43] gn [01:07] nite === gnomefre4k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [01:51] Hello, I cannot find xinitrc in my home directory in xubuntu, is it supposed to be missing? === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [02:17] anyone using xubuntu able to use Revelation Password Manager successfully? [02:18] or hydrogen drum machine? [02:51] so 8.04 is not out yet?? [02:52] manuel__: yes! [02:52] Odd-rationale: Xubuntu too? [02:52] manuel__: yes!! [02:52] I can't find the link though [02:52] just Ubuntu [02:52] yes but update servers are swamped [02:52] my bad [02:52] http://xubuntu.org/get [02:53] I was looking in ubuntu.com :D [02:53] I'm planning on switching to xubuntu , good idea? [02:53] yes. download the torrent [02:53] I will [02:54] i has problem [02:54] i has bucket [02:54] lol [02:54] seriously [02:54] ^_^ [02:55] I already have ubuntu 8.04 installed ... is there a difference in installing a clean xubuntu install or just adding xfce? [02:55] last night i *tried* to install xfce 4.4.2... (upgrading from 4.4.1)... im CURRENTLY on 7.10 (very soon to upgrade to 8.04 if all is ok).... however it errored half way through the installation... with an error saying alsa is missing... but its not >.< and now i can only do half the stuff i need to in xubuntu [02:56] what i need to know... is: [02:56] what version of xfce does 8.04 come with? [02:56] and if installing 8.04 will correct xfce again [02:56] 4.4.2 [02:56] or if i have to do that first [02:58] well... ill hit upgrade and see what happens... thats all i wanted to know ^_^ [02:58] ...it didnt say on xubuntu.org that i could see [02:58] hey there, every time I log in I get a "brown" desktop background (sounds strange I know) with none of my icons. I have to go Applications>settings>desktop settings and click "allow xfce to manage the desktop" every time to get my wallpaper and icons back. Can someone help please [02:58] can someone say besides resources, why xubuntu is better than ubuntu ? [02:59] i have tried all 3 (x, u and k) and i like Xubuntu the best [02:59] homebrewcider: I had that problem too when I tried xfce yesterday [02:59] its easier to use (i think) [02:59] its simpler [02:59] homebrewcider, login, enable your desktop, logout with "save this session" [02:59] ah ok [02:59] thanks for the envy tip the other day stroganoff [02:59] xjden: what about ati driver problems, is it the same? [02:59] worked a treat [03:00] glad to now [03:00] uninstall the driver before upgrading to hardy [03:00] could not have been simpler to implement [03:00] trying the save session tip now [03:01] manuel__ its faster and it got mice [03:01] can you name some other good apt based distros? [03:01] Stroganoff: yeah the mice are nice [03:01] linux mint, manuel__ [03:01] Stroganoff: that's basically ubuntu though [03:01] yep ;) [03:01] debian or sidux then [03:01] nope, the save session box was checked but had the same problem [03:02] add xfdesktop to your startup items, homebrewcider [03:02] Stroganoff: I've always been curious about debian [03:02] ah ok [03:02] Stroganoff: is it more mature than ubuntu? [03:03] no [03:03] ubuntu is the best you can get in most ways [03:03] I'm just sick that the ati restricted drivers never work. .. I was so optimistic with the coming of hardy [03:04] manuel__ they work for some people ;) [03:04] the minority [03:04] How about fedora? [03:05] they are doing some nice work as well [03:05] do you know if i can upgrade online to the next version like ubuntu does? [03:06] you can [03:06] try this for installing ati drivers in ubuntu: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html [03:07] Yep, I've done it [03:07] what happened was that instead of opening gnome correctly, it gave me a white screen [03:07] change DefaultDepth [03:08] how? [03:09] sudo nano /etc/X11/Xorg.conf [03:09] change DefaultDepth to 16 [03:09] just guessing... [03:10] mmm, under Applications>settings>sessions and startup settings, I have "automatically save session on logout" checked, but I still have the same problem on logout, is ther a config file i can check? [03:10] on login I mean [03:11] Stroganoff: would you believe me that, my xorg.conf is empty??? [03:11] you could delete the cache files at ~/.config/ somewhere (i dont use xfce session manager) [03:11] manuel__ big X.. Xorg.conf [03:11] yes, Xorg.conf [03:12] is completely empty [03:12] manuel__ always use [TAB] for auto completion in terminal [03:12] :o [03:12] I always do [03:12] X wouldnt start a white screen with an empty config file [03:12] oh [03:12] in ubuntu is xorg not Xorg [03:14] oops ;) [03:14] so you didnt use tab :p [03:19] Stroganoff: no, I blindly trusted you [03:19] And why exactly a depth of 16? [03:20] manuel__ because theres 24 and 16 [03:20] 24 doesnt work, so try 16 [03:21] Ok put 16 [03:21] should I try the restricted manager or envy now ? Stroganoff? [03:21] i dont know [03:22] installing a driver might reset the defaultdepth, so double-check after installing each driver [03:22] or google ubuntu + your ati card. [03:24] Here I go, with the will of god [03:35] how do i run apps on startup? i am trying to use the gui but it's not working. can i do it in terminal? [03:35] (or scripts) [03:35] what version are you running? 7.10 or 8.04? [03:37] i have two machines, one with 7 and one with 8. [03:38] HACKhalo2: it will be nice to learn the command line so if the UI changes i'll know how to do it. [03:38] well, im not sure on 7, but in 8 [03:39] autostart applications? [03:39] well, i used the settings manager when i wanted to run the xscreensaver deamon [03:40] basically, applications/Settings/Settings Manager/Autostarted apps [03:41] click "+Add" [03:41] when i run this command from terminal it's work - sudo syndaemon -i 1 -d [03:41] Type in the name of the app, the discription, and the terminal command [03:41] but when i add it to autostart apps it's not running after logout. [03:42] oh [03:42] HACKhalo2: what is the name of the app. do i need to create a script? [03:42] the name is whatever you call it [03:43] it could be called Bob for all Linux cares [03:43] so does it have to be a script file? [03:43] no [03:43] i used a command [03:43] it could be a script file, but im not that advanced [03:44] that's what i did - in the name i wrote something random and in the command i wrote "sudo syndaemon -i 1 -d" [03:44] but it doesn't work. [03:44] does syndaemon need to be sudo? [03:44] mmm ne [03:44] no, let me try...! [03:45] minus qoutes ftw [03:46] torrent.ubuntu.com is really taking a long time to do my requests [03:46] i know [03:46] anyone have a direct link to the xubuntu 8.04 desktop torrent? [03:46] give it time [03:46] i did... [03:46] i'm working on getting the altCD fo i can upgrade offline [03:46] ah [03:47] because my router is a pos and won't let my lappy online [03:47] there we go, got it [03:47] HACKhalo2: thanks. it worked. [03:47] np [03:47] now i got my own question [03:47] you little hacker (-: [03:48] shoot [03:48] so, anyone know if there is a DVD release for xubuntu like kubuntu/ubuntu? [03:48] how do i download files for Linux on winderz? [03:48] u want to use windows apps? [03:49] because of said problem, i can't get the openGL plugins for Linux [03:51] im looking for the Python OpenGL and Python GTKGLExt files [03:52] ahhhmm. not sure i know this stuff. [03:53] because all i need is the tarballs [03:53] after that, i can burn it to a CD and install from there [04:05] hey guys? [04:05] anyone active? [04:05] me [04:05] hey [04:05] hey [04:05] can i ask you a queston [04:05] shoot [04:06] n000b: go for it [04:06] what is the advantage of xubuntu over other ubuntu sub-distros [04:06] xubuntu is lighter [04:06] and over ubuntu [04:06] lighter how? [04:06] n000b: i just swicth....it's fast! [04:06] since it's based on the XFCE interface [04:06] why is it faster? [04:07] n000b: they choose light-wieght apps for everything. [04:07] light weight usually means less options, right? [04:07] n000b: and it was built from scratch for performance. [04:07] les features [04:07] n000b: not always, but sometimes yes. [04:07] not really [04:08] anyone gotten remote desktop goin [04:08] the OS's are compairable [04:08] n000b: i don't see the difference from ubuntu. [04:08] but xubuntu beats ubuntu in speed [04:08] owen1: have you tried out all the apps again since your installation [04:09] HACKhalo2: have you noticed any differences in the apps? [04:09] Jasone: wait for 8.04. they added vinagre. great app. [04:09] i couldn't install ubuntu [04:09] my lappy's to old [04:09] n000b: i don't understand the question. [04:09] 8.04 got released already [04:09] hackhalo2: was your system too slow [04:09] HACKhalo2: true. got it. [04:09] owen1 i have 8.04 [04:10] ubuntu 8.04 has been released? [04:10] i cant get remote desktop goin [04:10] on xubuntu [04:10] it's running a Intel Celloron processor [04:10] Jasone: r u trying to connect to remote machine? [04:10] n000b: yes. [04:10] it's really slow [04:10] im trying to bake xubuntu a vnc sever [04:10] n000b: the servers are busy. wait a few days. [04:10] owen1: i have an older version CD. will ubuntu automatically update me like windows does? [04:11] lol bake it a server... [04:11] n000b: what version? [04:11] owen1: 7.04 [04:11] no [04:11] n000b: yes. i had it as well. [04:11] im not sure about the altCD though [04:11] owen1: and it automatically updated it? [04:12] 7.04 to 8.04? [04:12] n000b: u'll see a button (today) that say - upgrade. [04:12] ok thanks [04:12] owen1: my wife's laptop didn't see it yet. but I did. [04:13] where is this "upgrade button"? [04:13] the guides made to get xubuntu going sharing its desktop dont seem to work [04:13] n000b: xubuntu is like ubuntu but awesome. [04:13] it's in the update manager [04:14] owen1: im afraid of loosing features [04:14] I don't have the update manager on my system anymore [04:14] does anyone know if wubi works with external usb [04:14] n000b: like what? [04:14] the last update removed it [04:14] lol [04:14] owen: like anything [04:14] owen1: like anything [04:15] n000b: 7.04 didn't come with pdf viewer so i had to install evince. [04:15] n000b: but that's it. [04:15] owen1: 7.04 ubuntu didnt have it either [04:15] n000b: ok (-: [04:15] nobody here has vnc4server going on their 8.04 ubuntu here? [04:16] xubuntu* [04:16] can you use the ubuntu support forums to get xubuntu help? [04:16] "enable automatic login" doesn't work. any ideas? [04:16] n000b: great question. i think u do. [04:17] owen1:hmm how would you find out? [04:17] n000b: because u can use all the gnome apps on xubuntu. [04:17] n000b: i am new to xubuntu but i think it's the same forums. [04:18] i heard you dont need any antivirus or anti malware for linux [04:18] n000b: i also believe it's good to know the command line sometimes so u'll not be depend on a UI. [04:18] n000b: true. [04:18] owen1: good point [04:18] n000b: the best thing is the community. [04:18] owen1: can you do torrenting with xbuntu [04:18] n000b: people will help u to get away from MSF. [04:19] whats MSF [04:19] n000b: (-: sure. click on torrent file and enjoy! [04:19] n000b: it comes with 8.04 - transmission. [04:19] owen1: oh there's an included bittorrent client? [04:20] n000b: microsoft [04:20] ok [04:20] n000b: sure. and it's light-weight. [04:20] owen1:cool [04:20] n000b: i also have win XP as a virtual machine. [04:20] owen1: have you tried gobuntu? [04:21] use virtualbox. [04:21] owen1: im doing a dual boot system [04:21] n000b: no. is it nice? [04:21] n000b: why dual boot? [04:21] owen1: i've yet to try it [04:21] use virtualbox [04:21] so I can play certain windows only games and run some windows only software [04:22] n000b: it's great. it takes 2 seconds to have XP on full screen. [04:22] instead of dual boot. [04:22] owen1: so i dont need a dual boot? [04:23] no [04:23] owen1: hows the media player on xubuntu? will it play every kind of file? [04:23] install virtualbox from sun's website. i'll guide u. [04:24] n000b: yes. it's the same as ubuntu. [04:24] I see [04:24] owen1: what kind of system do you have [04:24] n000b: u can also try vlc or mplayer [04:24] n000b: 1.5 gig ram, 2.6 (i think) cpu. [04:24] owen1: whats vlc? [04:25] n000b: another video player. [04:25] owen1: what's it stand for? [04:25] n000b: not sure. google.. [04:25] n000b: it's work with anything. [04:26] n000b: u have many options with linux. u'll love it. [04:26] my XP is fast. i don't feel that it's virtual at all. [04:27] owen1: i have a bunch of files on an external hard drive that I put on there when I had windows [04:27] and u can play flightgear on linux (open source flight simulator)! [04:27] owen1: how will i run them on linux [04:28] what kind of files? [04:28] owen1: thanks for the software recommendations , im writing them all down [04:28] Owen1: my folders show up as files on ubuntu, so i cant get into them [04:29] n000b: in 1 month u'll do the same - help others. [04:29] they were windows file system [04:30] mmm. it's a usb thingy? [04:30] yes [04:30] external [04:30] external usb [04:30] just connect to the linux and u'll be able to access it. [04:31] "enable automatic login" doesn't work. any ideas? [04:31] I opened it on linux but all the folders showed up as files [04:32] n000b: ask it on ubuntu channel. there are 1400 people now.. [04:32] owen1: did you say 1400? are you serious> [04:32] n000b: yes. it's insane. [04:33] most of your questions can be addressed there. [04:33] i am going there as well. got a question with automatic login. [04:34] ok [04:34] link me pls [04:34] link? [04:34] what app do u use for irc? [04:34] chatzilla [04:34] im there now [04:35] ok. what link do u need. #ubuntu [04:35] no i dont need it abymore thanks anyway [04:42] Hi - xubuntu is failing during the "loading drivers" portion of the boot sequence [04:42] my pulseaudio device chooser doesn't start when selected, and there is nothing listed when i run paman or pavucontrol, any ideas on using pulseaudio? [04:52] "enable automatic login" doesn't work(xubuntu) . any ideas? [04:52] don't use auto login? [04:56] maxamillion: when i logout it shows me the login screen.. [04:58] right ... its supposed to [04:59] maxamillion: i am confused. can't i login automatically? [04:59] the auto login only works when you start the computer up [04:59] HACKhalo2: and not when i restartL [04:59] ? [05:00] restart should autologin too\ [05:00] it didn't.... [05:00] owen1: yes, you should be able to but i don't do it so i've never seen that problem and don't know how to fix it, i was just suggesting that you not use auto-login [05:02] maxamillion: what is the risk? [05:02] vnc? [05:02] ssh? [05:02] you get carpal tunnel typing in your password [05:02] lol [05:02] good one [05:04] well, i just don't like the idea of others using my machine .... [05:04] i have a fully encrypted hard drive, grub password, and required login prompt [05:07] what is grub password? [05:08] owen1: its a password that is required to even select a boot device/kernel/partition [05:09] owen1: and then i have a LUKs password that is required to decrypt my filesystem upon boot [05:09] well technically it decrypts and encrypts on the fly as i use the filesystem, but the password is required at boot time [05:11] maxamillion: r u an fbi agent? what's the pannic? [05:12] hey owen [05:12] owen are you on yahoo? [05:12] maxamillion: just kidding. [05:12] owen1: no, just security concious .... i'm just a college student [05:12]