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crlcan81Hi everybody, I just was wondering how much of a difference goign from win xp to ubuntu was  gonna be like. And waht all I gotta do to get it installed on my system. Also is it possible to dual boot with it and xp.12:21
crlcan81also, no CD burner.12:22
crlcan81so gotta find some way to run the ISO without a CD12:22
crlcan81anyone able to help?12:22
crlcan81*sighs* guess not12:23
Nafallo!help12:24
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:24
Nafallohmm12:24
Nafallono12:24
Nafallocrlcan81: the help channel you are looking for is probably #ubuntu :-)12:24
crlcan81well I just.. I really don't trust linux ever since Mandrake I think it was.12:25
crlcan81I got the ONE version you didn't wanna get.12:25
crlcan81Which my local walmart only had THAT.12:25
crlcan81still downloading the ISO though.12:25
andreasnmpt: ping13:39
Keybukinteresting14:25
Keybukhadn't noticed we use rhythmbox for cd extraction14:25
Keybuk(I think I did know, but hadn't actually seen it to really know :p)14:25
Amaranthrhythmbox can do that now?14:28
bhaleused to be sound-juicer14:30
Keybukyup14:43
Keybukactually, the experience is very nice14:43
Keybukhaving one app for managing music, burning to cd, ripping from cd, copying to/from music players, etc. feels right14:44
KeybukI have a niggle that it's awkward to fix a CD that doesn't have a CDDB entry14:44
Keybukand that it's awkward to deal with compilation CDs (but SJ has that issue too)14:44
Keybukit's great though that I can rip from CD into Ogg for the library14:55
Keybukand then drag them onto my phone, which converts them to MP3 automatically14:55
Keybukand it's even cooler when I know how little code that takes14:55
Keybuk(well, little code for the app - gstreamer rocks)14:55
* Ng looks for an officially correct way for a user to install a font15:56
Nggnome 2.22's user guide lists two options, neither of which work15:56
Ngand that user guide seems to be what we have in System->Help15:57
Ngit says use System->Preferences->Font (which we don't have, but even the Fonts bit of Appearance doesn't have the "Go to font folder" button they reference), and gvfs doesn't support fonts:///15:58
ofhhelo someone here ?16:03
ofhhave a prob with firefox plugin16:03
ofhcan't install as a non-root user16:04
ofhanny advise16:04
mptandreasn, ponggggg16:10
andreasnhey16:10
andreasnthere was a dude in #tango that asked for advice on the nautilus copy dialog, but I pointed him to usability list16:11
mptandreasn, do you mean the progress window, or the name conflict alert?16:15
andreasnthe progress window16:16
mptooh interesting16:16
andreasnFile operations dialog redesign16:16
andreasnis the header of the e-mail16:17
mptyes, reading it :-)16:19
mptthanks16:19
mptWhy did it change?16:21
andreasnfrom what was in 2.20?16:22
andreasnsomeone decided it popped up too many dialogs when you copied two or more things at a time16:22
mptoh, because it's stacked16:23
mptgood good16:23
andreasnthe notification area thingy is a bit weird though16:23
mptnotification area thingy?16:23
mptoh!16:24
mptyeah, that's a bit bong16:24
mptit does nothing minimize couldn't do16:24
mptOh, I know why it's there16:24
mptIt's because _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE doesn't have a "progress window" type16:26
mpttherefore progress windows get a close button when they shouldn't16:26
mptand if you close it, how are you going to reopen it again?16:26
mptby clicking the notification area mcguffin16:26
andreasnhm? you can do that?16:28
andreasnsounds really weird16:28
mptso basically the new window does what's suggested in the "Tiling windows" section of <http://www.mackido.com/Interface/Copy.html>16:28
mptyeah, it is really weird :-)16:28
mpt(the notification area thing, I mean, not the combining)16:28
andreasnyeah16:29
calcNg: for a local user only copy into ~/.fonts16:30
calcNg: then run fc-cache16:30
calcNg: that is the non-gui way16:30
calcNg: aiui fonts: is broken due to conversion to gvfs, probably will be fixed in next gnome release16:30
calcNg: probably worth filing a bug against the appropriate thing in launchpad though if it isn't there already16:31
* calc bbl16:31
calcNg: or pinging seb128 about it at some point16:32
andreasnmpt: nice work on the User Experince stuff in the ubuntu wiki btw16:44
mptthanks16:45
Ngcalc: .fonts is what I would have done. i think we should have a better way to do this16:51
Ngeven fonts:// is hideously undiscoverable16:51
Nggnome-font-viewer and right clicking on a ttf in nautilus should both offer a user install16:52
Ngimho :)16:52
slomo__hm, update-manager doesn't allow dist upgrades from feisty to hardy but only from gutsy/dapper to hardy?18:43
Nafalloslomo__: should be right18:47
slomo__doesn't make things easy here... gutsy doesn't boot ;)18:48
Nafalloslomo__: you now how you can work around it if needed.19:03
slomo__Nafallo: yes, how? :)19:04
Nafalloslomo__: you are not the slomo I know :-P19:04
slomo__i don't want to think about it or look into code or use s/feisty/hardy/ on sources.list and call apt-get dist-upgrade ;)19:05
Nafalloslomo__: hehe. the last one was the solution indeed ;-)19:31

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