=== johanbr_ is now known as johanbr === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === asac_ is now known as asac [12:21] Hi everybody, I just was wondering how much of a difference goign from win xp to ubuntu was gonna be like. And waht all I gotta do to get it installed on my system. Also is it possible to dual boot with it and xp. [12:22] also, no CD burner. [12:22] so gotta find some way to run the ISO without a CD [12:22] anyone able to help? [12:23] *sighs* guess not [12:24] !help [12:24] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [12:24] hmm [12:24] no [12:24] crlcan81: the help channel you are looking for is probably #ubuntu :-) [12:25] well I just.. I really don't trust linux ever since Mandrake I think it was. [12:25] I got the ONE version you didn't wanna get. [12:25] Which my local walmart only had THAT. [12:25] still downloading the ISO though. [13:39] mpt: ping [14:25] interesting [14:25] hadn't noticed we use rhythmbox for cd extraction [14:25] (I think I did know, but hadn't actually seen it to really know :p) [14:28] rhythmbox can do that now? [14:30] used to be sound-juicer [14:43] yup [14:43] actually, the experience is very nice [14:44] having one app for managing music, burning to cd, ripping from cd, copying to/from music players, etc. feels right [14:44] I have a niggle that it's awkward to fix a CD that doesn't have a CDDB entry [14:44] and that it's awkward to deal with compilation CDs (but SJ has that issue too) [14:55] it's great though that I can rip from CD into Ogg for the library [14:55] and then drag them onto my phone, which converts them to MP3 automatically [14:55] and it's even cooler when I know how little code that takes [14:55] (well, little code for the app - gstreamer rocks) [15:56] * Ng looks for an officially correct way for a user to install a font [15:56] gnome 2.22's user guide lists two options, neither of which work [15:57] and that user guide seems to be what we have in System->Help [15:58] it says use System->Preferences->Font (which we don't have, but even the Fonts bit of Appearance doesn't have the "Go to font folder" button they reference), and gvfs doesn't support fonts:/// [16:03] helo someone here ? [16:03] have a prob with firefox plugin [16:04] can't install as a non-root user [16:04] anny advise [16:10] andreasn, ponggggg [16:10] hey [16:11] there was a dude in #tango that asked for advice on the nautilus copy dialog, but I pointed him to usability list [16:15] andreasn, do you mean the progress window, or the name conflict alert? [16:16] the progress window [16:16] ooh interesting [16:16] File operations dialog redesign [16:17] is the header of the e-mail [16:19] yes, reading it :-) [16:19] thanks [16:21] Why did it change? [16:22] from what was in 2.20? [16:22] someone decided it popped up too many dialogs when you copied two or more things at a time [16:23] oh, because it's stacked [16:23] good good [16:23] the notification area thingy is a bit weird though [16:23] notification area thingy? [16:24] oh! [16:24] yeah, that's a bit bong [16:24] it does nothing minimize couldn't do [16:24] Oh, I know why it's there [16:26] It's because _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE doesn't have a "progress window" type [16:26] therefore progress windows get a close button when they shouldn't [16:26] and if you close it, how are you going to reopen it again? [16:26] by clicking the notification area mcguffin [16:28] hm? you can do that? [16:28] sounds really weird [16:28] so basically the new window does what's suggested in the "Tiling windows" section of [16:28] yeah, it is really weird :-) [16:28] (the notification area thing, I mean, not the combining) [16:29] yeah [16:30] Ng: for a local user only copy into ~/.fonts [16:30] Ng: then run fc-cache [16:30] Ng: that is the non-gui way [16:30] Ng: aiui fonts: is broken due to conversion to gvfs, probably will be fixed in next gnome release [16:31] Ng: probably worth filing a bug against the appropriate thing in launchpad though if it isn't there already [16:31] * calc bbl [16:32] Ng: or pinging seb128 about it at some point [16:44] mpt: nice work on the User Experince stuff in the ubuntu wiki btw [16:45] thanks [16:51] calc: .fonts is what I would have done. i think we should have a better way to do this [16:51] even fonts:// is hideously undiscoverable [16:52] gnome-font-viewer and right clicking on a ttf in nautilus should both offer a user install [16:52] imho :) [18:43] hm, update-manager doesn't allow dist upgrades from feisty to hardy but only from gutsy/dapper to hardy? [18:47] slomo__: should be right [18:48] doesn't make things easy here... gutsy doesn't boot ;) [19:03] slomo__: you now how you can work around it if needed. [19:04] Nafallo: yes, how? :) [19:04] slomo__: you are not the slomo I know :-P [19:05] i don't want to think about it or look into code or use s/feisty/hardy/ on sources.list and call apt-get dist-upgrade ;) [19:31] slomo__: hehe. the last one was the solution indeed ;-)