[00:38] <ivoks> this was tooooo boring :/
[00:43] <ivoks> we can make do-release-upgrade even better
[00:44] <ivoks> implement -y and make it truly automatic :DD
[00:52] <Mythril>  Does anyone know how I change the mirrors apt uses?
[00:56] <FastZ> so i accidentally pressed the Print Screen button on my keyboard while my server was in the middle of upgrading (do-release-upgrade).  it then stopped downloading upgrades and spit out the command prompt...
[00:56] <FastZ> it appears to me like I will be able to restart the do-release-upgrade, but it will start from the beginning again.
[00:56] <FastZ> :(
[00:58] <ivoks> FastZ: no, apt keeps downloaded packages
[00:58] <FastZ> ivoks: it starts where it left off?
[00:58] <ivoks> Mythril: yeah, with sed
[00:58] <ivoks> FastZ: yes
[00:59] <FastZ> ivoks: good deal cuz it'd been downloading for about half an hour... thanks.
[00:59] <ivoks> Mythril: for example, if you want to change us to uk mirror, running sed -i -e 's/us.archive/uk.archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list would do the trick
[01:01] <Mythril> ivoks: ty, I always forget about sed
[01:01] <ivoks> Mythril: well, you can use vim too
[01:01] <ivoks> vim -c "%s/us.archive/uk.archive/g" /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <ivoks> :)
[01:02] <Mythril> ivoks: I can't operate vim, Its like typing with gloves on for me
[01:02] <ivoks> you should learn vi(m)
[01:02] <ivoks> most powerfull tool on the planet
[01:03] <ivoks> don't listen those emacs guys, they don't have a clue :)
[01:04] <nijaba> the great thing about vi(m) is that, whichever Unix or Linux system you connect to, it is always there :)
[01:04] <ivoks> 'night
[01:04] <ivoks> nijaba: right, but i do hate we don't ship it by default on desktop
[01:04] <nijaba> goodnight ante
[01:05] <ivoks> (full vim)
[01:05] <nijaba> ivoks: well, yes, it is one of the first thing I upgrade :)
[01:05] <ivoks> we should have two desktop CD version
[01:05] <ivoks> one as we have now
[01:06] <ivoks> and the other one without openoffice, but with latex and vim :)
[01:06] <nijaba> Ubuntu Pro :)
[01:06] <ivoks> right :)
[01:06] <ivoks> and 43 versions of tetris
[01:07] <nijaba> lol
[01:07] <ivoks> + pacman
[01:07] <nijaba> ivoks: write a blueprint!
[01:07] <ivoks> really time for bed... i have to be up in 2 hours and drive into alpes
[01:08] <nijaba> ivoks: skiing?
[01:08] <ivoks> boarding, yes
[01:08] <nijaba> ivoks: have fun
[01:08] <ivoks> that's my passion
[01:08] <ivoks> will do... me and 4 chicks for 2 days :D
[01:08] <nijaba> a good one to have, but is better after sleeping a good night
[01:08] <nijaba> specially with the chicks ;)
[01:09] <Deeps> Ubuntu Pro? It's called "Install command-line system" from the alternate CD. :P
[01:09] <nijaba> Deeps: nah, we still want a GUI to play tetris ;)
[01:09] <ivoks> Deeps: no, gnome is nice and all that... but openoffice, even firefox.. bloat :D
[01:09] <Deeps> man apt-get, discover 'install'. :P
[01:10] <ivoks> hm... ubuntu-administrator-8.10
[01:10] <ivoks> all the admin tools you would need
[01:10] <ivoks> :D
[01:10] <nijaba> on these fine words, I am going to bed as well.  Goodnight owls :)
[01:10] <Deeps> Sweet dreams. :)
[01:10] <ivoks> 'night
[01:19]  * flyback is suffering a total emotional breakdown tonight, stand clear
[01:37]  * flyback decides to finally put the extra duron 850 cpu and mb with crappy caps together into a media pc so we can drown his sorrows in streaming movies and anime
[01:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> until you throw load on the system and the caps throw up
[01:55] <flyback> who cares
[01:55] <flyback> it's a media pc
[01:55] <flyback> that's all it will ever do
[02:02]  * flyback brb
[04:09]  * flyback goes to find his inhaler
[05:13] <Vlet> Anyone know how to have samba use pam or kerberos passwords instead of those set with smbpasswd?
[05:20] <driverafk> Vlet: it really can't be done, as far as i know... you can do the reverse where authentication from pam goes to samba...
[05:22] <Vlet> oh, that's a bummer... well, my passwords come from a kerberos server, so there's no changing em
[05:23] <Vlet> but it's good to know that at least maybe I can quit trying to find the answer
[05:23] <jiqiren> i think you might be able to get it work as long as you don't mix MS OS's
[05:23] <sommer> Vlet: you could keep your user accounts in ldap and autthenticat through kerberos
[05:24] <jiqiren> but then there would be the question"why use samba"?
[05:24] <sommer> jiqiren: for ms access :)
[05:25] <sommer> least I'd assume that'd be the reason for using it in the first place, heh
[05:25] <jiqiren> exactly.. blame AD for MS-LDAP/Kerb that doesn't work with others
[05:26] <sommer> actually with likewise-open it works with linux pretty well
[05:26] <sommer> or at least it greatly simplifies the configuration
[05:27] <jiqiren> you mean everything authenticates from AD? that can also be done with samba if once needs a central directory master thing stuff .... :)
[05:27] <sommer> yep yep
[05:30] <Vlet> dc'd...
[05:31] <Vlet> yes, I want to use samba to allow individuals in my office to be able to access shares using their kerberos login and pass via their XP machines without having to come over to the server room and dictate their pass to me :)
[07:53] <sdakak> I have setup a bind9 server. And got it to resolve example.com to my internal ip. Now this resolution works from the localhost only. If i try to do it from other machine on the lan than the dns doesn't work. I have tried stopping the firewall. But if from the other lan machine I key in the ip of my machine then it appears. Bind doesn't seem to resolve names from other lan machines.
[07:54] <jiqiren> sdakak: is bing only listening on lo?
[07:55] <sdakak> Sorry got it, firewall issue. If i turn off the firewall then I can do the other lan machines can access my bind server
[07:55] <sdakak> *then the other lan machines can access my dns server
[07:55] <sdakak> jiqiren: Can you help me setup firestarter?
[07:55] <sdakak> so that my dns server doesn't block incoming dns requests?
[07:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakak, make sure port 53 is open (iirc)
[07:56] <jiqiren> i don't know what firestarter is
[07:56] <sdakak> jiqiren: It is a GUI for iptables afaik
[07:56] <jiqiren> ah
[07:56] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: How would I do that?
[07:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> in firestarter? no idea
[07:57] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: :(
[07:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[07:58] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: Still try and help me, I would have to configure the incoming policy right?
[07:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakak, sounds probable. i dont know the terminology fierstarter uses though
[07:58] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: Ok got it. Now I need to allow incoming connections from only lan machines.
[07:59] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: I got it to allow it from one lan machine only?
[07:59] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: Would it accept 192.168.99.xx?
[07:59] <sdakak> What is this range setting rule/
[07:59] <sommer> Kamping_Kaiser: what up?
[07:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> sommer, about to ask #ipv6 for some help :) hows things at your end?
[08:00] <sommer> heh, don't know too much about ipv6, but other than than things are awesome
[08:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehehe
[08:01] <Kamping_Kaiser>  this tunnel has worked before, but it "stopped working" some time after a blacout, and i'm only trying to fix it again now
[08:02] <sommer> do you have a shovel?
[08:02] <sommer> ehehehehehehehehe
[08:02] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: Do you know how to tell the firewall to allow connections not from 192.168.99.73 only but from 192.168.99.xx?
[08:02] <sdakak> sommer: help?
[08:02] <jiqiren> sdakak:  iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 53 -j ACCEPT (to allow anything to connect to your dns)
[08:03] <sdakak> jiqiren: I need to allow connections only to 192.168.99.xx. How would that look like?
[08:03] <jiqiren> you mean allow only from?
[08:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> -range 192.168.99.0/24 iirc
[08:03] <sommer> sdakak: sorry bro I'm not that good at ipv6
[08:04] <sdakak> sommer: Is this ipv6?
[08:04] <sdakak> jiqiren: Yes only allow
[08:04] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: I will try that
[08:04] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: I can also say 192.168.99.0/255, can't i?
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakak, you can, but its not valid :)
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> so iptables will probably throw up on you
[08:05] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: then 254?
[08:05] <sommer> sdakak: ya, I've only ever used ipv4
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> sdakak, no, /24
[08:06] <jiqiren> sdakak: 192.168.99.0/24
[08:06] <sdakak> Does 192.168.99.0/24 means what?
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a CIDR netmask
[08:06] <jiqiren> means 192.168.99.0-255
[08:06] <sdakak> I thought it mean to allow connection from 192.168.99.0 - to 192.168.99.24
[08:06] <jiqiren> or 192.168.99.0 through 192.168.99.255
[08:07] <sdakak> jiqiren: How could I tell it to allow 192.168.99.25 through 192.168.99.45?
[08:07] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: ?
[08:08] <jiqiren> well... with iptables (not using a mask) you could do --src-range 192.168.99.25-192.168.99.45
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> ^^ i was about to suggest an RTFM
[08:12] <sdakak> Kamping_Kaiser: I can't find a manual for firestarter.
[08:15] <jiqiren> http://www.fs-security.com/docs.php <- first result from google when I search for "firestarter documentation"
[08:15] <sdakak> jiqiren: Kamping_Kaiser: firestarter accepted 192.168.99.0/24 thank you
[08:15] <sdakak> jiqiren: It doesn't load here
[08:16] <sdakak> jiqiren: The site appears in the Help>online manual in firestarter also. But it looks down :)
[08:16] <sdakak> *sorry down :(
[08:16] <sdakak> Thank you :)
[08:16] <jiqiren> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[08:17] <sdakak> jiqiren: really.
[08:18] <sdakak> someone will come and second that. No need to get all sarky
[08:18] <jiqiren> works for me! :)
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> lols @ site
[08:20] <jiqiren> i don't get how someone is setting up dns and doesn't understand netmasks...
[08:20] <jiqiren> no wonder finding good SA's is such a bitch
[08:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh
[08:32]  * delcoyote hi
[11:48] <DiesIrae> \quit
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:04] <jords> :)
[15:50]  * flyback is seriously ponderijng checking himself into psych ward and spending the rest of his life there
[15:55]  * flyback goes to sleep for a little while till he feels better
[19:06] <Noah0504> Is there any reason 8.04 won't even start up to install but 7.10 will?  I'm thinking it has something to do with the kernel.  Is there anything I can do?
[19:12] <stiv2k> hi I just upgraded to 8.04 and it replaced my sudoedit with vi or vim
[19:12] <stiv2k> how can I revert this back to nano
[19:12]  * stiv2k just likes nano better.
[19:18] <Noah0504> Man, this channel is pretty dead.
[19:18] <Noah0504> ;)
[19:18] <stiv2k> yeah it is
[19:19] <Deeps> stiv2k: change your EDITOR variable back to nano
[19:20] <Noah0504> If 8.04 won't even boot to install, do you think it would work to upgrade from 7.10?
[19:20] <Noah0504> haha
[19:21] <Deeps> Noah0504: Dunno, but if it doesn't, you'll be able to restore from the backup you made before you performed the upgrade ;)
[19:21] <Deeps> Noah0504: and you'll need to be a bit clearer about what you mean by "wont even boot"; how far does the boot process get? Do you get a menu? Do you get the start of the installer? What do you get?
[19:22] <Noah0504> Yeah, I figured that wouldn't be too helpful.  Basically I select install and all I get is a blinking cursor.  Nothing more.
[19:22] <Noah0504> 7.10 works fine, so I'm guessing the kernel doesn't like my computer...
[19:22] <Deeps> Clearer still please
[19:23] <Noah0504> Hmm...
[19:23] <Deeps> "I'm booting an Ubuntu server 8.04 disk, and I've selected 'Intall ubuntu server' from the initial menu, after which I get a blinking cursor on my screen, and my cdrom drive goes nuts / spins down"
[19:24] <Deeps> Something like that?
[19:24] <stiv2k> Deeps: where is thsi EDITOR variable defined
[19:24] <Noah0504> I'm not sure what else to say.  The CD boots to the main menu, but after I select install, I see it load the kernel to 100% the screen goes black, and all I get is a blinking cursor.  I hear the CDROM spin up but then it quiets down and I see no indication of the HDD or processor having any activity.
[19:25] <Deeps> Okay! That's a lot better. I have no idea. Heh. Sorry. :)
[19:25] <Noah0504> :)
[19:25] <Deeps> Noah0504: confirmed the md5 of the iso matches? if so, burn it again and see? possibly bad media
[19:26] <Deeps> stiv2k: you can define it whereever you want. if you're using a bash shell, and want to define it system wide, you could define it in /etc/profile
[19:26] <Noah0504> Yeah, I verified the burn.  Also, I'm not even able to have the CD check itself for errors.  The same thing I described above happens when I select that option.
[19:26] <Deeps> stiv2k: if you only want to adjust it for your user account, you could define it in ~/.profile
[19:26] <Deeps> "verified the burn" wasn't on my list of thing to check ;)
[19:27] <Noah0504> The hash matched and I also verified the burn.
[19:27] <Noah0504> hehe
[19:27] <stiv2k> Deeps: ok
[19:27] <Deeps> Noah0504: Asked Google?
[19:28] <stiv2k> Deeps: you sure its not ~/.bash_profile?
[19:28] <Noah0504> Not yet.  I just assumed the computer is a little fickle because it's older.  Things can't be supported forever.
[19:28] <Noah0504> haha
[19:28] <Noah0504> I'll run a search and see if I can come up with anything though.
[19:29] <Deeps> stiv2k: .bash_profile is specific to bash, .profile relates to all bash compatible shells
[19:29] <stiv2k> ok
[19:29] <stiv2k> is there a specific syntax i need to follow
[19:29] <stiv2k> or just EDITOR="nano"
[19:29] <Deeps> stiv2k: apologies, header of ~/.profile reads: This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists
[19:29] <Deeps> stiv2k: export EDITOR=/full/path/to/nano
[19:30] <stiv2k> and i need to log out and back in for it to take effect?
[19:30] <Deeps> stiv2k: sure, or you could just run export EDITOR=/full/path/to/nano from your shell
[19:30] <stiv2k> ok
[19:31] <stiv2k> nice :D
[19:31] <stiv2k> thanks, Deeps
[19:31]  * stiv2k actually has yet to restart his server from the release-upgrade, heh
[19:31] <Deeps> that's a bit silly
[19:31] <stiv2k> don't want to ruin my 76 days uptime :(
[19:32] <Deeps>  19:32:23 up 11 days,  2:46,  2 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.04, 0.00
[19:32] <Deeps> on my home router
[19:32] <stiv2k> interesting
[19:33] <Deeps> uptime doesn't matter unless you're running critical applications, or have a small penis and need to compensate with a big epeen
[19:33] <stiv2k> lmao
[19:33] <stiv2k> epeen?
[19:34] <Deeps> e-penis
[19:34] <stiv2k> epenis
[19:34] <stiv2k> hahahah
[19:34] <stiv2k> this is true
[19:34] <Noah0504> I just installed Tomato on a brand new Linksys router.  It's amazing.  :)
[19:34] <Deeps> that said, I once had a Windows NT4 server go over 3 months without a reboot, and it only went down due to a power failure
[19:35] <stiv2k> Noah0504: tomato is good?  I currently use DD-WRT and have been looking at tomato
[19:35] <Deeps> and my personal uptime record is around 800 days on debian
[19:35] <stiv2k> wow :|
[19:35] <Deeps> of course, that machine was vulnerable to any number of exploits as a result
[19:35] <Noah0504> stiv2k: I like it.  Gives me what I need with still being quite simple.  Also, I'm not too fond of what is going on in the DD-WRT camp.
[19:35] <stiv2k> Noah0504: what do you mean?
[19:35] <stiv2k> whats going on in the DD-WRT camp
[19:36] <Noah0504> stiv2k: Well, the biggest thing is the theft of GPL code and things of that nature.  Also, I just don't like what it's turning into.  They have a pay version now, and I don't know...
[19:36] <Noah0504> Just not a big supporter.
[19:37] <Noah0504> That's why I went with Tomato.  And I also like it a little better.
[19:37] <AtomicSpark> how come they removed install a lamp server option from the boot menu? did they just move it to the server options page when installing?
[19:37] <stiv2k> Noah0504: you have a good point
[19:37] <stiv2k> Noah0504: does tomato support wireless repeating
[19:37] <stiv2k> thats the main thing that attracted me to DD-WRT
[19:38] <AtomicSpark> <3's me some tomato
[19:38] <AtomicSpark> i use it at work and home
[19:38] <stiv2k> tomato is GPL?
[19:38] <Noah0504> WDS?  Yes.
[19:38] <AtomicSpark> its completely open sourced. donno if it's gpl. he has the source code on the website
[19:39] <stiv2k> i see
[19:39] <Noah0504> Yeah, I don't think it's GPL.
[19:39]  * stiv2k has a WHR-HP-G125 by buffalo
[19:39] <stiv2k> the website says they support WHR-HP-G54
[19:40] <AtomicSpark> ah. i have a wrt54gl. i think its great. never had the stability problems as i did with netgear. man i had to restart that router a few times a day. lol
[19:40] <Noah0504> stiv2k: Run a Google search for Tomato and that model number.
[19:40] <stiv2k> yeah
[19:40] <stiv2k> doesnt turn up much
[19:40] <stiv2k> i mean it runs DD-WRT just fine
[19:40] <Noah0504> AtomicSpark: Just got my GL in yesterday and the first thing I did was put Tomato on it.  :)
[19:40] <stiv2k> so... i don't see why it shouldn't run tomato
[19:41] <AtomicSpark> Noah0504: nice!
[19:41] <Deeps> AtomicSpark: Reading The Fucking Manual suggests so: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/installing-from-cd.html
[19:41]  * Deeps ahems, heh.
[19:41] <Deeps> That came out harsher than I intended
[19:42] <AtomicSpark> Deeps: i did silly angery kid. i was just wondering if they moved it on purpose. they used to gloat about their LAMP option :P
[19:42] <Deeps> AtomicSpark: Apologies, that came out harsher than intended. The manual does suggest that it was intentional, given the additional task options available now though.
[19:43] <AtomicSpark> Deeps: ah. didnt see that part.
[19:43] <Deeps> ;)
[19:44] <AtomicSpark> hmm. i should use lvm this time so i can properly partition my server without worrying about not being able to change the sizes later.
[19:49] <Deeps> AtomicSpark: Hehe, thanks btw, discovered the 'tasksel' util thanks to you. :)
[19:49] <AtomicSpark> wonderful!
[19:49] <Deeps> Had a monkey install a Debian machine for me, and failed to unselect the desktop, mailserver + printserver tasks during intallation, making my debian minimal install not so minimal.
[19:50] <Deeps> tasksel remove desktop, woo
[19:50] <AtomicSpark> how stable has lvm become for resizing? i don't really feel like corrupting my data.
[20:28] <Noah0504> Deeps: So, it turns out if I wait long enough, the install for Hardy starts.
[20:28] <Noah0504> haha
[21:26] <Derspankster> I recently built a server for use at home. It runs Hardy and I also installed gnome desktop because of my unfamiliarity of the Linux command line. When I installed the system I partitioned the hard drive into one partition. I then added folders for the various files that I wanted to serve and set permissions and sharing using gksudo nautilus.
[21:26] <Derspankster> My issue is this, when I boot the system I get the following error.
[21:26] <Derspankster> Users $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. Users $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by others.
[21:26] <Derspankster> Does this mean that I have some of my permissions wrong? Or, is the fact that I formatted the drive into one partition? Do I need to create another logical disk and move my shared folders into it?
[21:26] <Derspankster> I want to be able to move files from my other computers to the server from all of my computers.
[21:26] <Derspankster> Guess I'm just a nOOb at this and need some guidance. Even though I can move past this warning when I boot, I want to run the server headless and I can't because I can't "OK" my way past this warning. I can't connect via ssh before the server actually boots.
[21:28] <Derspankster> One more thing before I end this flood (sorry) When i input ls -lh ~/.dmrc   I get, no such file or directory
[21:29] <DiesIrae> Derspankster: what's the output of: ls -ld ~
[21:31] <Derspankster> says it's an invalid operation
[21:32] <DiesIrae> how about: echo $HOME
[21:33] <Derspankster> /home/(user Name)
[21:34] <DiesIrae> and if you do: ls -ld /home/(username) od you also get invalid operation?
[21:34] <Derspankster> user name = my user name
[21:35] <DiesIrae> yeah I understand
[21:36] <DiesIrae> looks like the permissions of your home directory are incorrect
[21:38] <Derspankster> OK
[21:39] <Derspankster> should I pastebin my smb.conf?
[21:40] <DiesIrae> it might be a good idea to fix the permissions of your home dir (if they are wrong of course:)
[21:41] <DiesIrae> can you create file in your home dir?
[21:42] <Derspankster> yes
[21:42] <DiesIrae> ok
[21:43] <Derspankster> but I cannot share it
[21:43] <Derspankster> but, then again, I don't want to
[21:46] <Derspankster> ls -Id~
[21:46] <Derspankster> Desktop    index.html    Music     Public  stuff      Videos
[21:46] <Derspankster> Documents  index.html.1  Pictures  Samba   Templates  webmin_1.370_all.deb
[21:48] <eht> i installed hardy, but with wrong keyboard layout... how can i change that. ?    i have tried 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' but that makes no change ?
[21:50] <Derspankster> Dieslarae: just finally understood that the command you asked for contained a upper case i and not a lower case L
[21:52] <Derspankster> eht: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  (try that)
[21:52] <eht> Derspankster:  sorry it a server.. no X
[21:54] <Cahan> eht, check /etc/rc.conf ?
[21:54] <Derspankster> eht: OK, well being a newbie, I installed ubuntu-desktop on my server so I can still run that
[21:55] <eht> Cahan: no such file ?
[21:56] <Cahan> ah, sorry, that's the BSD way :3
[21:56] <eht> he he
[21:58] <blue-frog> eht: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[22:02] <Derspankster> eht: that should work (blue-frog)
[22:04] <blue-frog> it will work.. need reboot though
[22:04] <blue-frog> i think
[22:05] <eht> yes it's working... trying to reboot to if it keeps the settings
[22:07] <eht> blue-frog: works perfect... thank you :)
[22:08] <Derspankster> still trying for a solution to my problem  http://pastebin.com/m2fb8d9fa  if anyone wants to take a stab at it.
[22:12] <blue-frog> Derspankster: have you checked all that you've been warned about?
[22:13] <Derspankster> you mean home dir permissions?
[22:13] <blue-frog> yes
[22:14] <Derspankster> I have rights to create and delete files
[22:15] <blue-frog> chmod -R 770 your-user /home/your-user
[22:15] <blue-frog> wait
[22:15] <blue-frog> chown -R  your-user /home/your-user
[22:16] <blue-frog>  chmod -R 770  /home/your-user
[22:19] <Derspankster> I get a warning of a missing operand
[22:19] <blue-frog> chown -R your-user /home/your-use
[22:20] <blue-frog> what's the name of your user?
[22:20] <Derspankster> larry47
[22:20] <blue-frog> chown -R larry47.larry47 /home/larry47
[22:21] <blue-frog> what does it say
[22:21] <Derspankster> missing operand
[22:21] <blue-frog> id
[22:22] <Derspankster> problem with id?
[22:23] <blue-frog> id <enter>  what is the result?
[22:24] <Derspankster> uid=1000(larry47) gid=1000(larry47) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(fuse),114(lpadmin),115(admin),1000(larry47)
[22:24] <blue-frog> sudo chown -R larry47.larry47 /home/larry47
[22:25] <blue-frog> sudo chmod -R 770 /home/larry47
[22:25] <Derspankster> chown: missing operand after `larry47.larry47/home/larry47
[22:25] <blue-frog> try logging in graphically
[22:26] <blue-frog> Derspankster: know how to read?
[22:26] <Derspankster> blue-frog: what??
[22:26] <blue-frog> space
[22:26] <blue-frog> t t
[22:26] <blue-frog> = tspacet
[22:26] <Derspankster> ah
[22:28] <Derspankster> chown: cannot access `/home/larry47/.gvfs': Permission denied
[22:29] <blue-frog> with sudo at the beginning of the line?
[22:29] <blue-frog> sudo chown -R larry47.larry47 /home/larry47
[22:30] <Derspankster> yes, tried it again
[22:30] <blue-frog> ls -ld /home/larry47
[22:32] <Derspankster> Desktop    index.html    Music     Public  stuff      Videos
[22:32] <Derspankster> Documents  index.html.1  Pictures  Samba   Templates  webmin_1.370_all.deb
[22:32] <blue-frog> no impossible
[22:32] <blue-frog> the command I gave you do not give that as a result
[22:33] <Derspankster> OK, maybe I got it wrong.
[22:33] <blue-frog> you have nothing to do with a server I am afraid to tell you
[22:33] <blue-frog> you should start to install ubuntu the easy way and leran linux/unix
[22:33] <Derspankster> drwxrwx--- 35 larry47 larry47 4096 2008-04-26 17:09 /home/larry47
[22:34] <Derspankster> blue-frog: i have been using desktop for some time but this is my first foray into server
[22:35] <blue-frog> ls -al .dmrc
[22:36] <blue-frog> your problem is not a server problem, it is just a simple desktop problem
[22:36] <Derspankster> ls: cannot access .dmrc: No such file or directory
[22:36] <Derspankster> blue-frog: I've not had this problem with my desktop or laptop installs
[22:37] <blue-frog> back to tty 7 and try to log in
[22:38] <Derspankster> sorry - tty 7?
[22:39] <Derspankster> well, I guess i ran him off with my ignorance.  I did appreciate his patience and his efforts to help.
[23:10] <osmosis> im getting really high load averages.
[23:10] <osmosis> i dont know the cause
[23:10] <osmosis> clean install hardy server
[23:10] <osmosis> have kvm module loaded
[23:10] <osmosis> any type of disk access seems to send the load average > 1
[23:16] <UnNaturalHigh> does anyone here know how I might install just hpijs with hplip and the gui component?
[23:16] <UnNaturalHigh> *and not the
[23:19] <osmosis> ugh...is there a 3ware high load average bug?
[23:22] <SelfDeletion> can anyone remind me what the command is to add server roles in ubuntu server? I.e. install the LAMP suite
[23:23] <SelfDeletion> nm just found it :) tasksel for anyone else that needs it
[23:29] <osmosis> SelfDeletion: tasksel
[23:30] <SelfDeletion> thanks :) just out of curiosity has anyone tried this on Hardy Heron yet?
[23:30] <osmosis> SelfDeletion: yah, im on it and havning hella problems with my 3ware controller right now
[23:30] <SelfDeletion> just that its sitting at 0% and don't seem to be doing anything :S
[23:31] <SelfDeletion> were you getting bounced to that lovely busybox shell? (i ended up doing a format of it today after the dist-upgrade was stable for only 1 day :S)
[23:32] <UnNaturalHigh> wish my print server would work
[23:32] <UnNaturalHigh> ever since I upgraded to hardy I haven't been able to print to it
[23:32] <SelfDeletion> looks like 8.04 might not be LTS after all :<
[23:33] <UnNaturalHigh> no doubt
[23:33] <UnNaturalHigh> starting to think I should migrate back to gutsy
[23:33] <UnNaturalHigh> at least it worked
[23:33] <SelfDeletion> aye just what i was thinking :<
[23:34] <osmosis> my server is going super slow. terminals are freezing for like 30 seconds
[23:34] <SelfDeletion> oh wait w00t its gone from 0% to a prompt for the mysql root password,!
[23:35] <SelfDeletion> yeah ive been getting some random freezes on my desktop, things like firefox and other apps graying out for not responding and then coming back after a few minutes..
[23:35] <UnNaturalHigh> SelfDeletion, same
[23:35] <UnNaturalHigh> firefox especially
[23:35] <SelfDeletion> and compiz is glitching as well :<
[23:35] <UnNaturalHigh> infact I am sad to say I am terribly disappointed in hardy
[23:35] <UnNaturalHigh> I thought it being an LTS it would be rock solid
[23:36] <SelfDeletion> aye that was my hope, maybe it means, this is going to need the long term support :p
[23:39] <SelfDeletion> are there any good tuts online for setting up a firewall on ubuntu server?
[23:39] <UnNaturalHigh> man, I need to print a report for school and I have no printer
[23:39] <UnNaturalHigh> SelfDeletion, I just used the iptables one on the ubuntu help wiki
[23:39] <SelfDeletion> ok cool cool
[23:42] <SelfDeletion> right im off for the night, gl with the printing and thanks for the help folks
[23:42] <osmosis> even light to moderate constant writing to disc occurs, the load average rises very rapidly, blocking logins and other processes until the writing is virtually done.
[23:48] <osmosis> is there anyone out there who actually uses AMD64 ??
[23:53] <UnNaturalHigh> osmosis, I do on my laptop