[00:00] hello [00:00] hi [00:00] ok so where do I go to change that? [00:00] albuntu: gksudo is graphical sudo for starting graphical apps with root permision [00:00] anyone here having problems with displaying other devices of desktop??? [00:00] other devices? [00:00] albuntu: sudo is fine for just terminal stuff. nano, vi, etc. [00:01] KillerOrca, I used to had in my older version of Ubuntu all my other partitions mounted on my desktop [00:01] actually they do not appear anymore... [00:01] since I've updated it... [00:01] I see what you mean now [00:01] generally speaking, gksudo is now being recccomended as the norm for starting graphical apps with root permissions. [00:01] I only have the one partition so no experience with that [00:01] quittt: have you checked your fstab? [00:02] PsynoKhi0, everything is mounted... [00:02] PsynoKhi0, actually I'm listening from music by mpd, which are on these partitions hehe [00:04] so when I set my depth to 16 instead of 24 do I have to restart anything? [00:04] thesheep, i did alt/f2, and a little 'run' box came up. then i input sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and nothing happent. [00:04] no no [00:04] input xterm [00:04] quittt: well, I would check the fstab nonetheless :) compare the UUID of the partitions with the output from "sudo vol_id -u " [00:04] then the command [00:05] i don't think i have nano on my machine [00:05] albuntu: you should [00:05] also, if you had anything with /dev/hd* now everthing goes under /dev/sd* afaik [00:05] albuntu: try "which nano" in terminal [00:06] lol [00:06] albuntu: nano is a terminal app, you won't find it in the menus... [00:06] uh oh [00:06] think he went to the crashy terminal [00:06] oh, it is not HDA anymore [00:06] it is now SDA [00:06] yes [00:07] xfce-terminal crashes with defaultdepth 24 on some video chips [00:07] that's not nice [00:07] really? [00:07] it was sda in gutsy, no? [00:07] really [00:07] no [00:07] I heard is was a problem with the alternate CD install [00:08] HACKhalo2: Hey, sorry but I was away from this window for a while doing other stuff. Anyway, yeah, I tried changing the theme and the window manager style and neither made a difference. It's so weird that it's just the terminal that's doing it. [00:08] KillerOrca: getting anywhere with your issue? [00:09] well I just need to know what to do once I change the value from 24 to 16 === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [00:11] KillerOrca: restart X server (nice way: log out/restart, hardc0re 1337 yo way: ctrl alt backspace [00:12] ok [00:12] Can anybody help me with a weird window manager problem in Xubuntu Hardy? Xfce4-terminal is opening without window decorations. It has the right shape, but instead of the title bar, frame, close button, etc it is just solid black. I can click where the buttons should be and they work, but they're not visible. Window decorations on all my other apps (at least the ones I've used so far) have been fine. Compositing is off and I've tried [00:16] a bit faster but still sluggish overall [00:16] and my cpu usage is still spiking to 100 [00:17] KillerOrca: ok let's try the following, go to your settings window [00:17] 1 sec [00:18] still closing other windows [00:18] oh and albuntu it is alt-f2 then enter 'xterm' then hit run [00:19] ok there [00:19] thesheep, sorry i got knocked off. i tryed alt/f2 and input sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf and nothing happent. then i tried it again and checked 'run in terminal' and of course, i crashed [00:19] it is alt-f2 enter 'xterm' and run, not run in terminal [00:20] KillerOrca: oic, said the blind man [00:20] :( i try again [00:20] settings manager window Psynokhi0? [00:22] applications > settings > settings manager (not using english version, approximate translation) [00:22] TheSheep: w3m looks fun :D [00:22] ok I am there [00:23] ok, so i just change the 24 to a 16 under section 'screen'; default screen? then save under file? [00:25] that's what i was told for something else [00:26] and it solves the terminal problem [00:26] after i 'save' do i just x out? [00:26] albuntu: in nano? [00:27] no, i think i in mousepad [00:27] albuntu: ctrl+s == save [00:27] KillerOrca: oops sry, I was browsing :) then get to the windows manager [00:28] not the save that appears under 'file' menu? [00:28] and choose the advanced tab, [00:28] ok there [00:28] untick "draw content while dragging" and "draw content while rezising" [00:28] albuntu: same [00:28] resizing* [00:29] Odd-rationale: and then to exit, just 'x' out? [00:29] albuntu: yes [00:30] Odd-rationale: do i need to restart x to test? [00:30] well moving windows is faster now [00:30] but launching new apps is still processor intensive [00:30] albuntu: yes [00:30] don't see how you are swimming along with 500 Mhz [00:30] KillerOrca: well yeah [00:30] KillerOrca: that's pretty subjective I guess :) [00:31] is it possible to make a bootloader that mounts an ISO file [00:31] KillerOrca: e.g. flash movies are a big no-no [00:31] I suppose [00:31] hello [00:31] hi again [00:31] yeah, I gathered that :) [00:31] if i wanted to remove and the reinstall alsa does anybody know what packages need to be removed? i need to start from scratch in terms of audio [00:31] anyone here having problems to show the other devices on the desktop?] [00:31] gutsy [00:32] KillerOrca: but that's as good as it gets I guess, can't expect marvel either :P [00:32] marvels* [00:32] marvels? [00:32] miracles might be more suitable heh [00:32] KillerOrca: , Odd-rationale , and TheSheep , thanx, seems to be working now [00:33] !yay [00:33] Glad you made it! :-) [00:33] KillerOrca: the last option I could think of is using a different windows manager [00:34] I was looking into the overclocking thing [00:34] apparently compaqs have terrible power supplies tho [00:35] nobody has any idea? ^^ [00:35] so do Dells [00:35] slimjimflim: I'd fire up Synaptics and do a search on alsa ;) [00:36] how do i see if my mic works? [00:36] psynokhi0, yea that was my first reaction too, but i reinstalled everything i could find [00:36] hackhalo2 plug it in turn up the volume, turn on the speakers and talk [00:37] HACKhalo2: Skype test call :P [00:37] what PsynoKhi0? [00:38] hackhalo2 you can make sure that input is on w/ xfce4-mixer if you don't have an icon for the volume [00:38] using Skype's test call to check if your mic is configured... though I think skype has issues with PulseAudio [00:38] it is [00:38] i always had a problem with audio thoughj [00:39] hackhalo2 you're in the same boat as me, only my problem is recent [00:39] so im not sure if my soundcard works with xubuntu yet [00:39] i have no audio period [00:39] i have audio in wormux [00:39] hey all [00:39] hackhalo2, but you can open xfce4-mixer alright? [00:39] dunno wormux [00:39] yes slimjimflim [00:40] yea, i wish i could help you more, but beyond that i'm here looking for the same answers [00:40] more or less [00:40] i has another problem [00:41] xjden, don't ask to ask, just ask [00:41] lol [00:41] ok [00:41] well.... [00:41] !enter [00:41] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [00:41] and you would say 'i have another problem' not 'i has another problem' [00:41] lol i know [00:41] i was just being... [00:42] funny? [00:42] ghetto? [00:42] * cody-somerville coughs. [00:42] and flash movies on youtube don't work for me [00:42] no lolcat [00:42] A few days ago i tried to install xfce 4.4.2 but it errored and quit... therefore a heap of the settings manager thingys were missing... yesterday i installed 8.04 (Xubuntu obviously) and they are still missing [00:42] hackhalo2, just the audio or the video too? [00:42] cody-somerville: ? [00:42] none [00:42] Odd-rationale, sore throat ;] [00:42] idk [00:43] it always has the loading icon [00:43] cody-somerville: oh. thought you had some annoucement... [00:43] Oh, I do. [00:43] Xubuntu rocks!! :D [00:43] hackhalo2 you might try installing the flash player from the non-free repository [00:43] wewt! [00:43] where is that? [00:43] More specifically.... The desktop manager, the windows manager etc etc [00:43] cody-somerville, no you rock [00:43] most of the things that were under "Settings" [00:43] ...are not there [00:44] cody-somerville: btw, is there no way to lock an xfce session other than installing xscreensaver or why is xscreensaver not included by default? [00:44] i downloaded flash player from adobe's site [00:44] so i was wanting to know... whats the name of the packages i can install... if any [00:44] Phsyni0 do you have any issues wih restarting xfce and old apps restarting too [00:44] Odd-rationale, You need to start gnome-screensaver [00:44] hackhalo2 packages are almost always easier [00:44] Odd-rationale, For some reason it isn't starting by default. [00:44] or the xscreensaver daemon [00:45] cody-somerville: ok. I was just wondering. and a saw several ask the same question. Thanks! [00:45] so look for the adobe flash package? [00:46] HACKhalo2: you can just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" and get flash that way, along with a bunch of other good stuff... [00:46] aaaanyone? [00:47] xjden: the wm was missing? [00:47] yes [00:47] and the desktop manager [00:47] i dont have anything on the desktop [00:47] xjden: what version of xubuntu are you running? [00:47] plus others... but i cant think what they were off the top of my head [00:47] 8.04 [00:47] my mic works [00:47] xjden: fresh install? [00:48] installed yesterday [00:48] xjden: so you don't have any window borders? [00:48] errr no thats ok [00:48] i mean the thing in the settings menu to fiddle with options [00:48] OOOH [00:49] but the actual desktop is missing lol === PsynoKhi0 is now known as PsynoKhi0-Warsow [00:49] xjden: checked in apps --> settings --> settings manager? [00:49] yep [00:50] is this firefox 3 running in hardy? i noticed firefox was updated, don't know how to tell what version running [00:51] PsynoKi0 do your apps restart up when you restart? [00:51] yes it is albuntu [00:51] xjden: it is not there? [00:51] i lost some of my extensions (colorful tabs :() [00:51] the settings manager is, but theres nothing on it about the window or desktop settings etc === PsynoKhi0-Warsow is now known as PsynoKhi0-TW [00:52] did it say incompatible extensions or are they just gone? [00:53] i just wanna know how to reinstall those things im missing [00:53] well I don't know how [00:54] would reinstalling xubuntu-desktop do it? [00:54] >.< [00:54] that seems fairly extreme [00:54] xjden: you could try... [00:55] yea... there must BE a package i can install -_-" [00:55] but i dont know [00:55] yea? [00:55] xjden: I have it by default... [00:57] KillerOrca: thanx [00:58] np [00:58] im searching synaptic [00:58] might have something useful [01:00] so it is just the windo manager missing? [01:01] and the desktop manager [01:01] i have no icons and cant set wallpapers etc [01:01] did these things exist before or were they never there? [01:02] they did before i tried to install xfce 4.4.2 [01:02] well I would just remove that and revert back to the previous xfce [01:03] did you try rebooting and no change? [01:05] yep [01:05] no change [01:05] all i really wanna know is the name of the packages that handle that [01:05] ...then i should be sweet coz i can reinstall them [01:05] well I've never messed with updating xfce on my own [01:06] where did you go to find the new xfce package? [01:06] www.xfce.org [01:07] flash still doesn't work [01:07] they dont yet have any docs for it [01:07] and there are no old versions there/ [01:08] no... dont think so [01:09] im reinstalling wm and xubuntu-desktop again via Synaptic [01:09] but i have no idea wtf's happened to the desktop [01:09] I just installed vino. what is the command to start it? [01:10] yeah wish I could be more help [01:10] hmmm [01:10] thx anyways [01:11] xfce does have an irc channel but somehow im banned from it :S [01:11] * xjden is confused [01:13] you aren't [01:14] click here: #xfce [01:14] anybody have any problems installing opera with gdebi? [01:14] working fine for me, albuntu [01:14] Stroganoff: not all clients supports clickable irc chans... [01:14] Odd-rationale you dont say. [01:14] use /join #xfce [01:14] says im banned [01:15] ...and have never been on it ever [01:15] don't like ff albuntu? [01:15] are you logged in as root, xjden? [01:15] Stroganoff: doesn't seem to be doing anything, altho it says 'downloading addional package files' there is no action in the terminal [01:15] yes i am atm [01:16] xjden its a wildcard root ban [01:16] KillerOrca: yes i like ff, but i also like opera, and i'm a variety freak [01:16] want to check out flock, too [01:16] :| [01:16] ok, wait, i see some action in the terminal now ... [01:16] well flock is just a ff based browser [01:16] with social networking [01:17] albuntu the mirrors are swamped.. [01:17] gdebi has to get some qt packages [01:17] Stroganoff: ya, no doubt ... took all nite to upgrade to hardy [01:17] * xjden sighs [01:17] newbie question ... will the heron version of xubuntu work on a computer w/ 96 mb of ram? [01:17] should do... [01:17] ...just [01:17] wow [01:18] dsl1047: that is very tight... [01:18] alternate cd installs, dsl1047 [01:18] just use alternate CD to install [01:18] mine has 128 mb ram ^_^ [01:18] same here [01:18] and it runs fine [01:18] mine has 440 [01:18] i have the alternate cd install, but wasn't sure if it was worth trying [01:18] mine doesn't run so hot but meh [01:18] i have 512 [01:18] dsl1047: i'd used fluxbox or lxde [01:18] lol [01:19] hi does anyone who as made the upgrade fom 7.10 to 8.04 notices an increase in the number of processes runing ( of about + 50) ? [01:19] what is lxde? [01:19] wow [01:19] lightwieght X11 desktop environment [01:19] you are right [01:19] no mine looks about the same [01:19] interesting... [01:19] http://lxde.sf.net [01:19] looks like I got an extra 30 [01:19] yea same here [01:19] any ideas ? [01:20] I would run through an remove shit you aren't using [01:20] carefully tho [01:20] what I plan to do [01:20] id it already [01:20] hmm [01:20] it did not change much [01:20] not good for me then [01:21] i building from scratch. no need to remove anything ;) [01:21] what is the command to start vino? [01:21] vino? [01:21] vino-session [01:21] i only have xfce and a couple of things that i cant remove [01:21] KillerOrca: vino: command not found [01:21] vino and nothing [01:22] 2x tab. [01:22] vino-s [01:22] so no ideas on how to get my mofo'ing desktop back then? -_-" [01:22] * xjden rips out hair [01:22] xjden repeat the problem plz [01:23] add 'xfdesktop' to xfce startup items [01:23] i have nothing on the desktop... most of the settings manager things i had before are midding [01:23] how do i do that? [01:23] >.< [01:23] no I was aking what it was [01:23] *missing [01:24] KillerOrca, any idea why this hapens , i mean i did an upgrade , not a clean install and already removed all the new programs the 8.04 installed like totem and that kind of thing [01:24] how do i "add 'xfdesktop' to xfce startup items" ? [01:25] well I just noticed it now too [01:25] I also upgraded [01:26] how many of yours are sleeping? [01:27] just a sec [01:28] * xjden ... [01:29] how do i "add 'xfdesktop' to xfce startup items" ? [01:29] what the hell is totem good for [01:29] top - 01:30:20 up 1:05, 2 users, load average: 1.36, 1.15, 1.06 [01:29] Tasks: 131 total, 1 running, 130 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie [01:29] does someone really use totem [01:30] yes [01:30] KillerOrca, [01:30] Tasks: 131 total, 1 running, 130 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie [01:30] can you watch everything with totem [01:30] Stroganoff: how do i do that? [01:30] dvb, and all video formats ? [01:30] if you have the pluings [01:30] and dvd [01:31] *plugins [01:31] you should be able to [01:31] well it looks like most of the extra stuff is not being used [01:31] is your system slower or is it just a matter of cleaning up? [01:31] on this machine i would normaly have 109 tasks [01:31] by default its so crap that i dont even want to give it much try [01:31] so i have to uninstall it [01:31] i think its the same [01:31] just a cleaning up thing :) [01:32] * xjden sighs again [01:32] xjden check the settings menu. i dont use xfce :/ [01:32] xjden applications -> settings -> settings manager -> autostarted applications [01:32] THATS the PROBLEM [01:32] night [01:32] half the settings are MISSING [01:33] including that one [01:33] xjden: mv ~/.config ~/.config-backup [01:33] logout. [01:33] ok [01:33] litleb: I just noticed this now so I need to look into it more also [01:33] sorry [01:33] logging out [01:33] KillerOrca, ok [01:34] brb in a mo [01:34] KillerOrca, can you just let me now later what you came up with ? thanks [01:34] I will try [01:35] ok [01:35] ill be around :) [01:37] will probably take awhile [01:37] since 8.04 is just released won't be noticed by most [01:37] i know :) [01:38] ok, i just uninstalled some packages (all the alsa ones i could fine) and now when i try to install any package, i get this....looks like apt can't access the server [01:38] nack [01:38] *back [01:38] Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y [01:38] 0% [Waiting for headers] [01:38] and it just hangs there [01:38] anybody know how to fix this? [01:39] change mirrors [01:39] stroganoff, ok, how, and why would this happen right now? [01:39] mmmmm stroganoff [01:39] slimjimflim it is releaseday+1 [01:39] yummy [01:39] Stroganoff: Ran that command, logged out then back in... nothing changed :S [01:39] * xjden scratches head [01:40] stroganoff, so `releaseday+1` ? [01:40] xjden alt+f2 -> xfdesktop [01:40] xjden alt+f2 -> xfce-mcs-manager [01:40] that's not a command [01:41] Hey, where are power schemes located? [01:41] didnt do anything [01:41] slimjimflim im just saying your local mirror maybe down because of the ubuntu release yesterday [01:42] Stroganoff: they are [01:42] oh great [01:42] of all the days i choose [01:42] xjden run these command from terminal and give error output [01:42] xfdesktop gives no error [01:42] so power options, where can i find them? [01:42] jden@xjden:~# xfce-mcs-manager [01:42] (xfce-mcs-manager:8030): xfce-mcs-manager-WARNING **: Multi channel MCS manager already detected for screen 0 [01:42] stroganoff, so should i be able to change mirrors w/ synaptic? [01:43] yes it should be possible in synaptic (i dont use it) [01:43] does no one know?? [01:43] what about from the command line? [01:44] slimjimflim you could open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor (mousepad) and use "find & replace" [01:44] whoneedszzz not sure where the options are, but you might wanna look at acpid [01:44] right [01:44] ty stroganoff [01:44] anyone else? [01:45] no soz... [01:45] > desktop ^_^ [01:46] WhoNeedszzz: /usr/bin/gnome-power-preferences [01:47] err [01:47] i'm using xfce [01:47] not gnome [01:47]