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sumantsumant-laptop is my machine name...so type it ther/00:00
Fujisanhow do i add a user in Konsole "and specify a password"? (sorry but i cant scroll up and my logging is disable , this text here scrolls too fast) "new addition"00:00
sumantflipstar: i mean during setup it said you will be identified on a network as sumant-laptop00:01
flipstarFujisan: the adduser will ask for an password00:01
Fujisandoesnt work00:01
sumantflipstar: what in the right side00:01
Fujisanand isnt it useradd flipstar?00:02
Fujisaninstead of adduser00:02
macisp2000Ok, I got Kubuntu installed and then found KDE4 and installed it.  Is there a easy way to also install Gnome?00:02
Fujisani need an example00:02
flipstarFujisan: useradd might also work but isn't for deban at all00:02
jussio1macisp2000: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop00:02
spirooIs it allright to ask for a computer related thingy? :P00:02
flipstarsumant: the right side as it is there00:02
Fujisanbecause i am not prompted to give a password when i use: useradd "username"00:02
spirooI have a question about my CPU.00:03
macisp2000thanks.  Is there a way to use the add/remove programs like I did with KDE4?00:03
jussio1spiroo: try in #kubuntu-offtopic00:03
sumantflipstar;yeah i pasted it as it is00:03
spiroookay thanks00:03
flipstarsumant: good then save and run <sudo visudo -c> in a shell00:03
sumantflipstar :now?00:03
jussio1macisp2000: yeah, install ubuntu-desktop from the adept installer00:03
macisp2000ok, I was looking for gnome.00:03
jussio1macisp2000: that installs gnome...00:04
Fujisanwhats password when no password is specified in the commandline?00:04
Fujisanthe*00:04
flipstarFujisan: maybe you'll be asked at first login00:04
sumantflipstar: i enterd the passwrd, it says /etc/sudoers file parsed OK00:04
SlimeyPeteFujisan: adduser is better than useradd btw00:04
macisp2000Last two things, I have emerald installed but have no themes, how to I add them, also, I can't get the hang of KDE themes from the website, is there some sort of one click install?00:04
flipstarsumant: great..then the next step00:05
SlimeyPeteand it should ask you for the password when you create the user00:05
Fujisanit doesnt do that00:05
FujisanSlimeyPete00:05
Fujisanit should yes00:05
Fujisanbut it aint happening00:05
SlimeyPeteuseradd might not...it's less automatic than adduser00:05
Fujisanso a -p followed by "password" ?00:05
Fujisani am just guessing here00:06
flipstarFujisan: see man adduser :)00:06
sumantflipstar: kmenu>run command>wvdial00:06
sumant??00:06
Fujisanwhy cant i get an example00:06
Fujisanthe man doesnt give me an example00:06
flipstarsumant: at command prompt means at a shell00:06
Fujisanjust a bunch of explainations00:07
flipstarsumant: to see if there problems00:07
Fujisannot i am messing it up here adding a zillion users00:07
Fujisanplease give me a password00:07
sumanti did open a new shell n typed wvdial00:07
Fujisani mean gimme me an example00:07
sumantflilpstar : it says ---00:07
Fujisanis that hard to give someone an example00:07
sumantWvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.5600:07
sumantWvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory00:07
sumantWvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory00:07
sumantWvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory00:07
sumantsumant@sumant-laptop:~$00:07
SlimeyPeteFujisan: "sudo adduser pete" would add the user pete and should ask you for your sudo password, then ask you a bunch of questions about the user, including their password.00:07
flipstarsumant: the modem is plugged in ?00:08
Fujisani tried that already but i dont get to specify a password afterwards but the user is created and when i try to login i dont know which password to use00:08
sumantflipstar :the phone is displyaed in K info center ---00:08
sumantManufacturer: Telson, Incorporated00:08
sumantSerial #: Serial Number00:08
sumantManufacturer: Telson, Incorporated00:09
sumantSerial #: Serial Number00:09
sumantflip: its displyed under host controller 200:09
SlimeyPeteFujisan: does it ask you any questions at all?00:09
sumantflipstar:its displyed under host controller @00:09
sumantflipstar:200:09
Fujisanok its working now thanks00:10
sumantflipstar:should i plug it in the other port?00:10
SlimeyPeteFujisan: :)00:10
flipstarsumant: run <ls /dev/ttyUSB0> in a shell ..00:11
flipstarFujisan: what was the error ?00:11
sumantflipstar: i got this message--- ls: /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory00:12
* NightBird ponders00:14
wesleyfreq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  does this mean these power saving are in use ?00:14
flipstarsumant: you probably need to replace "Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0" in "/etc/wvdial.conf" with something else00:14
sumantflipstar:i did install this .exe file thru wine....what does that do?00:14
mefisto__flipstar, sumant: I think k/ubuntu lists usb devices differently, not as ttyUSB000:14
Fujisancan i get filelight through the repos?00:15
flipstarFujisan: sure00:15
mefisto__ls -i /dev/*usb* might give a clue00:15
Fujisanok00:15
Fujisanty00:15
sumantmefisto: thanks mate...so shold i run that in a shel to find out?00:15
minaquabloody hell.  that new nVidia driver slowed me down immensely00:16
sumantmefisto_: yeah that did give a yellow coloured output00:16
sumant8104 /dev/usb1            13295 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep81  70086 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep8300:16
sumant 8108 /dev/usb2             8130 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00  70069 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep8a00:17
sumant 8112 /dev/usb3             8171 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81   8138 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep0000:17
sumant 8189 /dev/usb4            70043 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep00   8200 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep8100:17
sumant 8126 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00  70093 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep06   8218 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep0000:17
sumant 8151 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  70076 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep0b   8233 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep8100:17
sumant13287 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep00  70111 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep8100:17
sumantflipstar: u there00:17
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frapellHi, i'm trying the new kubuntu00:18
frapelland also i'm trying KDE400:18
frapell(4.0.3)00:18
vmplanethow do i check if i have installed KDE 4?00:18
frapellfor some reason the bar in the bottom (where i have the K menu, applications, clock, etc) is not longer appearing... does anybody knows what should i execute to have it back ?00:19
flipstarsumant: i don't know could be any of them00:19
Fujisanany good alarmclocks for kde besides the kalarm one?00:19
=== firas is now known as ProGzZz
frapell(i was messing around with compiz :-P)00:19
ProGzZzhi00:19
ProGzZzI'm a new linux user00:19
ProGzZz:)00:19
ProGzZzI liked ubuntu00:20
flipstarfrapell: plasma probably but ask in #kubuntu-kde400:20
sumantflipstar: tell me about wine00:20
ProGzZzit is nice00:20
JoshOvkiProGzZz: welcome00:20
flipstarsumant: whats with wine ?00:20
thompai created a dvd project in k3b and save it, but its too large to burn, can i split it somehow?00:20
ProGzZzJoshOvki: thanks:)00:20
sumantflipstar: it helps running windows progs. right00:20
frapellflipstar: thanks00:20
sumantflipstar:or it helps with drivers too00:20
flipstarsumant: right00:20
sumant?00:20
flipstarsumant: no..it given a faked win environment00:21
Fujisandoes kerry beagle need to index files and if so do i have to specify this in the settings?00:21
vmplanetwhats the command to upgrade kde 3.5 into 4.0 on kubuntu 8.0400:21
JoshOvkiProGzZz: this is the support channel, #kubuntu-offtopic   is the general chat00:21
sumantflipstar:so u cant run the drivers which i got on a cd, i mean the usb modem drivers00:21
sumant?00:21
ProGzZzone question please! is there any way to play Generals on ubuntu ?00:21
sumantmefisto_: u there00:21
ProGzZzJoshOvki:  I need help00:21
minaquaany way to play DVD movies?00:21
TheGentlemanWhy can't I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD?  sudo /cdrom/cdromupgrade returns "command not found" though i can see that cdromupgrade is there on the CD00:21
thompaany k3b person here, its annoying that it allows you to put duel layer00:22
DragnslcrTheGentleman- I had the same problem with the DVD00:22
TheGentlemanand you could solve it Dragnslcr ?00:22
ProGzZzis there any way to play C&C Generals on ubuntu ?00:22
Fujisanis it possible to implement a ticketing support system for the chat i am feeling overwhelmed by the chaotic nature of this support infrastructure00:23
sumantflipstar:which os u use?00:23
DragnslcrTheGentleman- only by doing a normal upgrade through Adept00:23
DragnslcrI hated to suck up the servers' bandwidth when I didn't really need to00:23
terrestre!medibuntu > minaqua00:23
sumantflipstar:was thinking of downloading the new hardy heron, ubuntu this time...00:23
thompai got 8G  data to burn in k3b but only have single layer00:23
sumantflipstar: is ubuntu better than Kubuntu?00:23
sumantflipstar: i believe its more widely used than K...00:24
TheGentlemanI agree Dragnslcr    I just downloaded the alternate iso (in 30 mins via torrent) for that reason!00:24
mefisto__thompa: are you trying to backup a dvd movie?00:24
terrestre!medibuntu > terrestre00:24
JoshOvkiProGzZz: i think its possible with wine00:24
JoshOvki!wine > ProGzZz00:25
DragnslcrTheGentleman- yeah, I know. I downloaded the DVD anyway, just in case the upgrade went badly00:25
minaquathX00:25
Fujisanamagawd00:25
thompamefisto__: no i created a dvd project without realizing that it defaults to duel layer00:25
Fujisananarchy is rampant here00:25
ProGzZzJoshOvki: thanks I'll try it00:25
thompamefisto__:starting over will take forever00:25
Fujisanslipstream support into categories00:25
DragnslcrFujisan- welcome to IRC00:25
|Toadi have a simple question that hopefully has a simple answer.  how do i do the 3d desktop switch?00:25
thompamefisto__: file is saved as k3b project,00:26
Fujisanthanks00:26
mefisto__thompa: it doesn't default to dual layer, it will adapt to whatever size the project is00:26
DragnslcrFujisan- if you think #kubuntu is bad, take a peek in #ubuntu sometime00:26
vmplanetwhat can i do to upgrade kde 3.5.9 to KDE 4?00:26
Dragnslcrvmplanet- what version of Kubuntu?00:26
terrestreminaqua, you can go to add/remove and install ubuntu-restricted-extras, medibuntu its for encripted dvd00:26
thompamefisto__: well it allows up to 8G and if you dont watch it then you cant burn00:26
vmplanetDragnslcr: its 8.0400:27
Fujisanlol00:27
thompamefisto__: before when i put dvd in i think k3b had the limit of my single layer dvd00:27
Dragnslcrvmplanet- I believe the package is kubuntu-kde4-desktop00:27
thompamefisto__: is there a way to split the projecy in half00:27
thompa*project00:27
Dragnslcrvmplanet- should be pretty easy to find in Adept00:27
TheGentlemananyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.00:28
Fujisani just see all my questions being scrolled away i mean if a bot would assign a ticket to it so i didnt have to repaste it and someone could just pick it up at some random time and message it back to me that would be better than this chaotic randomness00:28
thompamefisto__: it might as well be a bug, because you wont know how much space is left00:28
Fujisana little structure can't be that bad plus you could built a nice archive for future references00:29
thompaguess i got to buy dual layer dvds, ive used k3b for years so this suks00:29
vmplanetthank you Dragnslcr!00:29
DragnslcrFujisan- I'm sure there are channel logs on someone's web site00:29
mefisto__thompa: just create a new project (it will appear as a new tab) and move half the items into the new project. drag and drop files on the tab of the new project00:30
Fujisanlol00:30
thompamefisto__: thanks, obvious ,00:30
DragnslcrFujisan- if nobody answers your question after 10-15 minutes (or longer, if the channel is quiet), you can repeat it00:30
Fujisanok00:30
thompathompa: just slipped my mind i guess00:30
DragnslcrFujisan- you can also try asking in the forums00:30
Fujisani found an app on kde-apps.org which is a kde version of ding named kding but it isnt in the repos so how do i download and install it?00:31
thompathompa: :)00:31
thompamefisto__: thanks00:31
DragnslcrFujisan- do they have a .deb that you can download?00:32
flipstarFujisan: if it's a .deb download and click it00:32
Fujisanthere is an .rpm00:32
f00fFujisan: check if they have a deb package for it, if they do then just download that, if they don't you'll have to install dev packages and compile it.00:32
Fujisanon this site;00:32
Fujisanhttp://packman.links2linux.de/package/kding00:32
flipstarFujisan: then convert it into .deb using alien00:32
f00finstall alien, run alien on that rpm, and try that00:32
Fujisanalien is in the repos?00:32
Fujisanok thanks00:32
JackWinteris there an utility to display network throughout and which program is using what bandwitdh >00:33
crimsunJackWinter: darkstat00:33
sumantflipstar: thanks buddy, hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)00:33
wesleyfreq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  what dies this mean00:34
minaquathX terrestre00:34
flipstarsumant: just replace Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 in the file with some entry's you found and try00:34
sumantmefisto__: thanks buddy ,hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)00:34
sumantflipstar: yeah am doing that00:34
trident523JackWinter: Up to you... some are command line. Here's a good link. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html00:34
navetzcan anyone please help me set up a mail server that will work with php mail();00:34
sumantflipstar: wvdial needs to be enter in a new shell right?00:35
flipstarsumant: no, but else there's no output00:35
Fujisanoh boy alien is commandline only?00:35
flipstarFujisan: it needs no arguments00:35
flipstarjust the .deb00:36
sumantflipstar: u mena just edit the modem line(keep editing the dev/...line00:37
sumantflipstar: i will change it n try00:37
Fujisanhttp://www.getdeb.net/ <-- i'll just try this site instead cmdlines scare me :(00:37
sumantflipstar: is there a gui method? just curious00:38
richardDoes googleearth run with 8.04? I've installed it and it doesn't appear that it will. . ..00:39
flipstarsumant: knetworkmanager usally00:39
sumantflipstar: am trying that then00:39
flipstarrichard: sure..it should you installed via googleearth-package ?00:40
sumantflipstar: what do u think of ubuntu, is it the same or a bit tougher than Kubuntu, for a new linux user?00:40
flipstarits just a question of personal preferences00:41
Fujisanalien -d file [...] < --- is that the proper command to convert .rpm to .deb ?00:41
richardI just got it running must not have had all the software loaded that I needed. Tried it earlier and it would work. It does now. Thanks for the responses. . . .00:41
sumantic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense00:41
sumantflipstar:  ic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense00:42
WalzmynAnybody here using KDE4?00:42
flipstarFujisan: <alien file.deb>00:42
trident523Walzmyn: I was/can.00:42
flipstarFujisan: err sorry <alien file.rpm>00:42
sumantflipstar: i heard ubuntu has a firewall, that doesnt have a GUI,00:42
Walzmyntrident523, is it very quite?00:43
Walzmyntrident523, i've got my volumn maxed, but I can bearly hear anything00:43
sumantflipstar: in kubuntu  Firestarter has a gui, or does firestarter run on both the OSes00:43
trident523Walzmyn: It is quiter for me too... and I can't get the mixer to open in it.00:43
flipstarsumant: sure00:43
sumantflipstar: so how old are you with linux?00:44
chris32882how do I search for another computer on the network? samba isn't finding it :(00:45
Walzmyntrident523, i can get the mixer open, but it's still quite00:45
trident523chris32882: Another windows computer? Linux? OS X?00:45
chris32882win xp00:45
trident523chris32882: Is sharing enabled on the XP computer?00:46
chris32882yes it is, was before when I had vista on this machine00:46
flipstarsumant: i use linux since a few years now00:46
chris32882blah to vista00:46
sumantflipstar: only linux/00:46
sumant?00:46
flipstaryes00:46
Fujisan!vista00:46
ubotuVista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows00:46
sumantflipstar: cool, i too want to use only linux, but just bcos of some programs that i need  at work, n the slow modem00:47
WalzmynGood Lord - I've not been following this conversation - but this laptop came with Vista. Lets just say that Kubuntu was a BIG upgrade00:47
sumantflipstar: have to stick to ms win, linux is way safer than windows i believe00:47
chris32882yah vista is memory hog00:48
Walzmynnot just memory - nothing worked. I couldn't do anything.00:48
=== eatatjoes is now known as eatatjoes2
eatatjoes2i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?00:49
eatatjoes2i tried to install it but it says package doesnt exist00:49
chris32882trident523: yes its sharing, I doubled check to be sure00:49
sumantubotu: thanks for thta link00:49
chris32882ubotu is a bot o.o00:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot o.o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:50
sumant:)) it says im only a bot00:50
sumant:))00:50
terrestre!kvm > eatatjoes200:50
Fujisan!humor00:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about humor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:50
terrestre!kvm > terrestre00:50
Fujisan!debian00:50
ubotuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!00:50
terrestre!windows00:51
ubotuFor discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents00:51
sumantflipstar: is this irc same line instant messaging00:52
spaz'ello00:52
trident523!hello | spaz00:52
ubotuspaz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!00:53
sumantflipstar: i mean how can i add to my buddy list00:53
spazi installed kubuntu, but i've had one problem00:53
spazhah00:53
spaz:p00:53
spaznice one00:53
spazanyway00:53
flipstarsumant: no, irc and instant messaging are two different things00:53
spazthe problem is that it hangs on boot00:53
trident523!ask | spaz00:53
ubotuspaz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)00:53
spaz-_-00:53
trident523Am I a bot?00:53
spaz!stop-using-the-bot-:P00:53
flipstareatatjoes2: vmware is not in the repo's you got to grab it from the website00:53
spazanyway00:53
wesleyhow do i get cpufreq_powersave on00:53
eatatjoes2i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?00:54
spazit hangs on boot, right after saying "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20"00:54
trident523!virturalbox | eatatjoes200:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virturalbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:54
trident523... whoops.00:54
spazhaha00:54
mefisto__isn't the package vmware-server ??00:54
trident523!VirtualBox | eatatjoes200:54
ubotueatatjoes2: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:54
eatatjoes2i tried that00:54
chris32882trident523: is there something else I can use to to find   the other computer?00:54
trident523Oh.00:54
flipstar!find vmware-server00:55
ubotuNo packages matching 'vmware-server' could be found00:55
trident523eatatjoes2: Well, you can install vmware, but I tried it once, and I nothing that exciting happned.00:55
eatatjoes2is virtualbox better than vmware for running xp?00:55
macisp2000anyone know why my compiz manager is not showing the icons next to each checkmark box settings?00:55
trident523eatatjoes2: I think so, but I haven't tried it yet.00:55
spazoh yay. i got stuck in busybox.00:56
nosrednaekimeatatjoes2: its simpler to set up, yes00:56
wesleyhow set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?00:56
chris32882hmm00:56
trident523spaz: something didn't boot correctly aparrently.00:56
eatatjoes2Couldn't find package vmware-server00:56
eatatjoes2is the error i get00:56
spaztrident523, apparently :\00:56
flipstareatatjoes2: use kvm if you need to run vmware images00:57
xenolcan anyone tell me how can i make xorg to start  up at boot? i started with minimal cd :>00:58
wesley!talking against stones00:58
minaquathe only prob I have had is that when I try to use the proprietary video driver my system gets sOoOoOoOoO slow00:58
TheGentlemananyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.00:58
trident523minaqua: What kind of graphics hard do you have?00:58
minaquaanyone know how 2 fiX?00:58
nosrednaekimTheGentleman: what you do is boot up 7.10, then pop in the alternate00:58
minaquanVidia00:59
trident523TheGentleman: Where does it hang?00:59
spazugh00:59
spaz><00:59
TheGentlemannosrednaekim, and trident523 : it simply says cdromupgrade: command not found00:59
teddy_hello. I have a question about compiling a custom kernel. dont know if this is really the place to ask though01:00
flipstarwesley: running powernowd .. ?01:00
spazugh01:00
spaz:(01:00
DragnslcrI had the same problem using the DVD01:00
* spaz headdesks01:00
crimsunteddy_: see man make-kpkg, which means you need the 'kernel-package' package installed.01:00
teddy_does anyone know what "proccessor family" an amd sempron 3000+ is?01:00
teddy_i know that i just meant an option in the menuconfig01:00
wesleyflipstar how ?01:01
trident523TheGentleman: So, you've burned the alt-cd, correct? Well, if you add it as a repository (if I remembered how to do that in adept) you can force an upgrade from that, I think.01:01
flipstarteddy_: why not using xconfgi .. ?01:01
flipstar*xconfig01:01
trident523spaz: my desk would break if I headesked it.01:01
teddy_well i actually found the menuconfig easier01:01
flipstarteddy_: okay but there it is described01:01
TheGentlemanthat's an idea trident523   Still, there is poor quality information on the website01:02
flipstarwesley: go to services and start..?01:02
trident523TheGentleman: Let me boot into KDE to try to follow the directions through-ish... and to see where the add CD as repo thing is.01:02
thompak3b is a little tricky at first for 2 single layer dvds01:02
thompafor new user ie01:02
TheGentlemanthanks trident no need to do that:01:03
spazyay i fixed it01:03
TheGentleman i think i can manage it myself.  thanks for thinking a simle solution01:03
spazlol01:03
spazi have no room to actually headdesk01:03
thompamefisto__: it worked in k3b but you have to complete the first half of 8g first01:04
ahmoshi. i noticed in kubuntu gusty that when i click an icon it animates (zoom in).which programme responsible of that animation?01:04
spaznot a program ahmos, it's part of the desktop01:04
nosrednaekimspaz: haha01:04
spazbrb01:04
TheGentlemanthanks trident523  i apreciate your help, but i think i can manage it by myself now  ;-)01:04
thompamefisto__: its not obvious if you have a large file size more than dvd capacity01:04
trident523TheGentleman: Kay... do this. open Adept.. really? m'kay.01:04
nosrednaekimahmos: go into kcontrol->appearance->launch feedback I think01:04
thompathis is the best kde setup yet01:05
teddy_found it out.. x config didnt work. i just had a suspicion to google k7 family :)01:05
trident523thompa: Your computer? Kubuntu? Me? *please be me*01:05
TheGentlemanyes trident523  and anyway i guess the problem is in some way related to how the cd is mounted01:05
trident523TheGentleman: My CD pops up in Software sources as checkable... then follow the directions from there.01:05
TheGentlemanok thanks again trident523 !  :)01:06
ahmosok thank u all..but does it something related to kwin or kicker?01:06
trident523Oh, #kubuntu... does anyone know of a mac comp... eh plan B.01:06
thompatrident523: only problem is the walkman bug01:06
trident523Does anyone know of a mac-centric channel on freenode?01:06
wesleyget this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288/01:07
thompaso anyone know how to get walkman to automount? Its since a kernel upgrade i think?01:08
TailsfanHello, does anyone else have trobule comfiguring the Ralink Drivers from Source?01:09
sumantflipstar: thanks for the help, take care01:11
thompahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/20948301:11
sumantflipstar: whats ur id on IMs?01:11
Tailsfanbecause I wanted my one adapter to show up as rausb0 and not wlan#01:11
thompa*link to walkman bug01:12
Jimmy1hello01:16
TailsfanHi There, having problems too?01:16
Jimmy1hahah01:16
Jimmy1as always01:16
spazwtf :(01:16
spaznow X went crazy01:17
spazi tried restarting kdm01:17
spazand even x11-common01:17
spazbut now i try to use X and it's just a blank black screen01:17
nosrednaekimspaz: do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get a new config01:18
spaznosrednaekim, didn't modify it, but same story01:19
nosrednaekimoh.. ok01:20
* spaz attemps a reboot01:20
wesleyhow set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?01:21
AMIGrAvegot an nvidia 8800M and xorg starts at 800x600. Came to drivers management and saw nvidia_new checked but a label on the right tells : "not in used". What should I do ?01:21
Jimmy1OOOO01:21
Jimmy1im a noob but i think i can help01:21
Jimmy1click administrator mode01:21
Jimmy1and enable it01:21
Jimmy1:)01:22
Fujisanguys01:22
* Tailsfan wishes that the Ralink Drivers aren't a pain in the rear end to configure01:22
thompaAMIGrAve: can you disable renable?01:24
thompasry01:24
AMIGrAvethompa: ok, gonna try that. Have to reboot each time because wifi not working01:24
Makuseruhi, i just installed 8.04+KDE4 and i accidently closed the taskbar, how do i get it back?01:25
thompaAMIGrAve: is it an acer?01:25
AMIGrAvethompa: HP Pavillon HDX01:25
thompai got enough probs with atheros and acpi01:25
TailsfanI keep on getting errors that invilve with the string SET_MODULE_OWNER01:26
artinttroll alert01:26
artinttroll alert01:26
thompayou have to uncheck the hardware devices boxes and then get the one from madwifi01:26
Tailsfan???01:26
TailsfanWhat troll alert01:26
nosrednaekimMakuseru: run "killall plasma && rm .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc && plasma"01:26
thompasomeone who posts same thing twice I think01:27
Makuserunosrednaekim: thanks01:28
GS3Userhi, i'm having some network troubles. i recently switched to using openDNS on my router, and now my kubuntu 7.10 box is not seen on my local network. it cannot successfully ping either the router, or my xp box, but it does have access to the internet. how do i fix this?01:28
nosrednaekimGS3User: you can't ping local IP's?01:28
artinttroll alert troll alert troll alert01:29
Makuseruis there a simple way to remove KDE4 and install KDE3?01:29
DragnslcrMakuseru- install kubuntu-desktop01:29
GS3Usernosrednaekim: no, pinging 192.168.0.1 (my router) fails, as does 192.168.0.20 (my XP box). Also, my XP box cannot ping Kubuntu either01:29
nosrednaekimGS3User: wow... thats odd... what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?01:30
GS3Usernosrednaekim: kicks out a list of DNS servers01:30
MakuseruDragnslcr: and how do i remove KDE4?01:30
DragnslcrMakuseru- you don't have to, unless you really need the disk space01:31
nosrednaekimcan you pastebin it?01:31
eatatjoes2does anyone have a tutorial or something for install vmware on hardy?01:32
nosrednaekim!vmware01:32
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:32
GS3Usernosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/mb88b6cd01:32
eatatjoes2what about vmware server01:33
NDPTAL85Does Kubuntu have issues with HDs say 6GB large?01:33
nosrednaekimGS3User: my resolv.conf actuallyhas its first line as "search lan"01:34
artintt r o l l         a l e r t !01:34
nosrednaekimGS3User: maybe thats significant?01:34
nosrednaekimNDPTAL85: for installation?01:34
GS3Usernosrednaekim: should i edit it?01:34
NDPTAL85nosrednaekim: I'm able to install but it won't boot01:34
DragnslcrNDPTAL85- that should be enough space if you just need a web browser and Kopete01:34
NDPTAL85Then I don't know whats going on.01:35
NDPTAL85This is so strange01:35
NDPTAL85I've put the drive in another computer and am re-installing Kubuntu to see if it'll work there01:35
artint t R o L l             A l E r T01:36
NDPTAL85artint: Why do you keep doing that? Who is the troll?01:36
nosrednaekimGS3User: yeah... why not :)01:36
MilitantPotatoHey all, has anyone had a problem shutting down/restarting?  Xserver seems to lockup after closing applications01:36
nosrednaekimNDPTAL85: he is.. duh :P01:36
MilitantPotatousing sudo shutdown -r now works fine though.01:36
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: do you have an ATI01:37
GS3Usernosrednaekim: without the quotes, right?01:37
MilitantPotatoyes, with the 8.4 fglrx01:37
nosrednaekimGS3User: yes01:37
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: yep.. annoying isn't it?01:37
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: is this a hardy problem?01:37
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: its a fglrx problem01:37
MilitantPotatoOdd, worked in feisty.  Bummer01:37
GS3Usernosrednaekim: still getting the same error when I ping my router01:38
nosrednaekimGS3User: you have to restart networking01:38
nosrednaekimafter editing that file01:38
artintthank god that troll is gone01:38
artinthe was flooding me01:38
GS3Usernosrednaekim: is there an easy way to do that?01:38
MilitantPotatosudo /etc/init.d/networking restart GS3User01:38
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: yeah.... some other guy and I spent a long time trying to figure out how to circumvent it....nothing01:39
navetzcan someone here help me set up postfix?01:39
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: could I make some sort of shortcut on the desktop to run sudo shutdown -r now?01:39
GS3Usernosrednaekim: restarting networking didn't help either01:39
nosrednaekimwithout the GS3User of course :)01:39
GS3Usernosrednaekim: of course01:39
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: make it "kdesudo" so that you get a nice password dialog01:40
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: will do, easier then ctrl+alt+f101:40
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: do I need " of some sort?01:40
nosrednaekimno01:40
nosrednaekimoh... yeah01:40
nosrednaekimkdesudo "command"01:41
GS3Usernosrednaekim: any other ideas?01:41
nosrednaekimGS3User: no <_<01:41
MilitantPotatokdesudo "blah -r now"01:41
MilitantPotato?01:41
nosrednaekimyeah01:42
MilitantPotatohmm, where are Icon themes stored?01:43
nosrednaekimthe ocns should be in /usr/share/pixmaps01:44
GS3Useranyone else familiar with troubleshooting kubuntu's networking?01:46
chris32882not me01:47
chris32882havingt a problem with it too01:47
chris32882using samba trying to find my xp computer01:47
GS3Userchris32822: kubuntu can't even ping my router (but xp can). neither computer sees the other, but both have access to the 'net01:47
nosrednaekimGS3User: hmmmm try something. add your router as a nameserver01:48
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GS3Usernosrednaekim: nope, still says "Destination port unreachable" when I try and ping01:49
nosrednaekimwoah... never seent hat error before01:49
santiago-vewhich error?01:50
GS3User"destination port unreachable" when trying to ping my router01:50
nosrednaekimGS3User: might want to google that error01:50
chris32882hmm01:51
santiago-veGS3User: did you disabled pings from inside the lan?01:52
santiago-vemy router has that sexy option01:52
GS3Usersantiago-ve: my XP box can ping the router without issue01:52
santiago-veok, that's weird then01:53
santiago-ve:S01:53
GS3Usersantiago-ve: yeah01:53
santiago-veGS3User: ping -b <routerip>01:54
GS3Usersantiago-ve: still getting the destination port unreachable deal01:55
matt___just wondering if anyone knew of any really nice screensavers for linux, exluding electric sheep01:57
chris32882I am unable to view webcam in kopete, where can I get jasper image converter..says I need it01:57
Taladanchris32882: try sudo apt-get install libjasper-runtime01:59
chris32882ty Taladan02:00
* Taladan nods02:00
chris32882I was trying jasper that didn't work02:00
santiago-veGS3User: and that0s the machine youre connected from?02:00
Taladanchris32882: something that will help you in the future: apt-cache search <string>02:00
Taladantoo late...02:01
GS3Usersantiago-ve: i am currently on the machine that's having problems, yes02:01
shree_anyone in there who knows how to perform voice chat in kubuntu using gmail id02:03
nosrednaekimshree_: you can't currently02:04
nosrednaekimshree_: yell at google for that :)02:04
MilitantPotatogoogle is probably working on it02:04
shree_nosrednaekim: is it possible to install the gnome apps in kde like ladnell, ereseva02:04
nosrednaekimoh eys02:04
nosrednaekim*yes02:04
sponix... kde4 ... say I want to install "kubuntu-desktop" from my normal ubuntu-desktop install, but with kde4, is there an easy way to go about that ?02:05
MilitantPotatokde4-base IIRC02:05
nosrednaekimyeah... kubuntu-kde4-desktop02:05
MilitantPotatoah, nvm02:06
MilitantPotatoI'm holding out for 4.102:06
Taladanhm, I though tit was kde4-core02:06
shree_nosrednaekim: do you know any reason why the apps are gnome based but not kde based02:06
nosrednaekimshree_: some pogrammers prefer different toolkits02:06
nosrednaekim"gnome based" are written in gtk, KDE based are written in Qt02:07
shree_nosrednaekim: has there been any positive resposne from people who have tried to install ladnell, ereseva etc on kde02:07
nosrednaekimif its in the repositories, it will work in ANY desktop manager02:07
MilitantPotatothe memory leak I had in gutsy seems to be gone, thankfully02:08
shree_nosrednaekim: as in when i try sudo apt-get, it doesnt recognize those app names02:08
GS3Userhow do i edit my kernel ip routing table?02:08
nosrednaekimshree_: where are you looking at getting them from then?02:09
Taladanshree_: try apt-cache search <package>02:09
nosrednaekimGS3User: "man route"02:09
MilitantPotatoshree_: open synaptic?02:09
Taladanshree_: it'll get the correct package name for you02:09
Taladanshree_: but you probably want to enable all your repos in /etc/apt/sources.lst02:09
Taladanshree_: Except for the cdrom repo, at least.02:09
shree_how do i do that02:09
GS3Usernosrednaekim: let me rephrase... how do i edit the source of the output from the command "netstat -rn"02:09
shree_Taladan: how do i enable the repos02:10
Taladanshree_: which cli text editor do you use?02:10
nosrednaekimGS3User: yeah.. with route02:10
shree_Taladan: vi editor02:10
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Taladanshree - sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak  then sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list02:11
TaladanThen remove the # from each line that starts with deb<foo>02:12
Taladanthen :wq, then sudo apt-get update02:12
shree_nosrednaekim: i was thinking of downloading it from their svn repos02:12
shree_nosrednaekim: but as you say it is possible that i  have not enavbled a ll the repos on my system02:13
nosrednaekimshree_: well, you'll have to compile manually. BUt I assure you, anything that will rum in GNOME will run in KDE, you just need the proper libraries02:13
shree_nosrednaekim: so i will need to install the gnome libraries rite02:13
nosrednaekimyeah02:14
Taladanshree_: generally if you use apt-get install <package> it will fulfill the dependencies with the correct libraries - assuming the package is indeed in the reop02:15
Taladanshree_: what are you trying to install?02:15
rydanJust installed 8.04 with KDE4.  I saw screenshots where someone had comic strips on a widget. it's not on the list here.  anyone know how i can add it?02:15
shree_Taladan: i want to install either landell or ereseva but it doesnt show up on my apt-cache result02:15
nosrednaekimrydan: grab the package "plasma-extragear" or extragear-plasma... nto sure which02:16
rydanthank you!02:16
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: is it possible that i download from their svn and then use sudo spt-get.....kinda idea02:17
nosrednaekimshree_: no...02:17
Taladanshree_: no02:17
shree_nosrednaekim: Taladan: :)02:17
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Taladanshree_: Though...iirc there is a way to use make and dpkg together to fulfill prereqs for a package....been a year since I've done that though02:18
shree_Taladan: iirc???02:18
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shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: I am not upto that level02:18
nosrednaekimif I remember correctly02:18
Taladan(if I remember correctly)02:18
Taladanor you could check their sites and see if they have a .deb available and just install that with dpkg02:19
shree_Taladan: crap... they have a i386 deb not a amd6402:20
wizard_can someone give me a more up-to-date guide on compiz fusion for hardy?02:21
Taladanshree_: good luck with that one then...I was never able to get i386 stuff working in a 64 environment, though I know there's others who have02:21
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: you wouldnt recommend using the source code to create the package??02:22
nosrednaekimshree_: its not exactly easy02:23
Taladanshree_: I would research it first and see if there's anyone else running it in a 64 bit environment and if so what steps they took to get it to work02:23
nosrednaekimbut you can't really ruin anything either, so give it a shot :)02:23
Taladanpoint02:23
Taladanthe most you'll do is compile it, futz with it for 6 hours until you're angry at yourself, the machine, and the entire world then just rm -rf the directory you installed it into.02:24
shree_Taladan: : :)02:24
Taladanthough...02:25
Taladanyou do know that skype will run on kubuntu/ubuntu, right?02:25
nosrednaekimyea02:25
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: ok02:25
lellei got 4gigs and installed kubuntu 64-bit, but still only see 3gigs. what's up with that?02:25
TaladanThe one thing that i've found about most of the voip stuff I use is that I can (usually) get it working fairly well on my machine, but when I want to talk to most windows users it's like pulling teeth to get them to install anything else on their machines, and most of them know of skype at least tangentially02:26
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: can i contact gmail users from skype02:26
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??02:26
Taladanhmm...I dunno02:26
TaladanI think it's just skype-centric02:27
nosrednaekimshree_: don't think so02:27
Taladanbut...02:27
Taladanhm...not that I know of02:27
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: I guess I should yell at Google, for leaving the last piece of this puzzle hidden02:29
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??02:31
nosrednaekimyep :)02:31
Taladansure....though I wouldn't hold my breath for a solution.  Best bet is to try and figure out how to get the other stuff you've found to work in your environment.  A few hours research may turn up something wholly useful02:32
shree_Taladan: nosrednaekim: hmm. let me see what I can do. there is another arvind who is also helping me02:33
arvind_khadriTaladan, everything needs to be complied from SVN ,its a real pain02:37
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nosrednaekimlelle: whats "uname -a" say?02:38
Taladanhm...sounds like it's something that's extremely bleeding edge yet and will, at best, work only partially02:39
arvind_khadriyeah ... its time we had a .deb for a nice complete messenger02:39
* Taladan nods02:40
Taladanhence why I tend to use pidgin for all IM needs and skype for all voip needs02:40
haettulegurim having a 'fsck failed' problem -- can anyone please help?02:40
lellenosrednaekim: Linux soda 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:40
* arvind_khadri smiles02:40
nosrednaekimlelle: and the output of "free -m" first line will do02:40
Taladanit's not that much of a hassle, though it would be nice to have a good dependable client that handled both02:41
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thefuzz4does anyone have any suggestions about when I log out the computer just goes to a blank screen and I have to ctrl alt del a lot to get it to reboot?02:41
nosrednaekimthefuzz4: you have an ATI card, right?02:41
thefuzz4yep02:41
nosrednaekimthefuzz4: UHHH! I hate that bug :)02:41
lellenosrednaekim: Mem:          3019        767       2251          0         54        400   (note: integrated nforce GF7100 got 256megs)02:41
arvind_khadriactually everything even cams..kopete does but is kinda sluggish doesnt read from the other end if its windows02:41
Taladanhaettulegur: what'd you do /before/ you go the fsck failed msg?02:41
nosrednaekimlelle: thats most interesting.... sure you don't have some bad ram there?02:42
Taladanarvind_khadri: exactly....hence why I use each seperately02:42
haettulegurTaladan: i restarted the system (everything was running sort of slowly)02:42
totocoolHi all i`ve installed the extra widgets package for kde 4 but there are no extra widgets, when i tried to install a single widget from kde-look.org , but when i try to view the new widgets - there are no new widgets02:42
Taladanhaettulegur: how did you restart it?02:42
totocoolany idea how to install them02:42
haettulegurTaladan: start -> log off -> restart02:43
Taladanand what fs are you using?02:43
arvind_khadriTaladan, i am using Windows only for the cam reason :)02:43
totocoolI`m using the .deb packages for kubuntu02:43
osirishello.  just updated to hardy, and have sudoers issues.02:43
haettulegurTaladan: ? (im a newb, not sure what you're asking)02:43
osiris sudo apt-get install gkrellm02:43
osiris>>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 12 <<<02:43
osirissudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 1202:43
lellenosrednaekim: 2 x 2gig memory-sticks ... even memtest says 3gig ... and the Gigabyte motherboard says it supports up to 4gigs. Can't find any bios option either.02:43
Taladanhaettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?02:44
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thefuzz4lelle: are you running 32 or 64bit?02:44
nosrednaekimlelle: I'm thinkin the MB doesn't support it02:44
shree_Taladan: a quick question, when a source code is written, is it meant for a particular architecture or does it depend on where you compile it02:44
lellethefuzz4: 64 bit02:44
haettulegurTaladan: sorry, i got disconnected. last thing you asked was what fs i was using. im not sure02:44
nosrednaekimshree_: most Open source programs can be compiled on either02:44
nosrednaekimTaladan: though sometimes they do write specific code for either02:45
Taladanhaettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?02:45
* Taladan nods to nosrednaekim 02:45
nosrednaekim*shree_: ^^02:45
haettulegurTaladan: i just followed the standard installation02:45
nosrednaekimTaladan: sorry, wrong nicl :P02:45
shree_nosrednaekim: i didnt understand that02:45
Taladanhaettulegur: that means you're using the ext3 filesystem02:45
olrraihello02:45
shree_nosrednaekim:  :002:45
arvind_khadrishree_, sometimes the package comes arch dependent02:46
Taladanare you logged into a maintenance cli there?02:46
shree_nosrednaekim:  :)02:46
haettulegurTaladan: btw, im fine with just finding a way to backup all my data (i was in the middle of a backup when my hd crashed!!), and then reformatting everything if that's easier02:46
Taladancli - command line interface02:46
olrraido u know a good video editor and video format converter?02:46
haettulegurTaladan: yes02:46
nosrednaekimolrrai: try avidemux02:46
olrraiok02:46
TaladanOkay, give me a minute to dig...been a bit02:46
shree_arvind_khadri: hmmm. then it is a problem02:47
haettulegurTaladan: im at the state where...it said to run fsck manually, so i typed 'fsck. and now it says "error reading block *some numbers* whel getting next inode from scan. Ignore error?"02:47
Taladancan you private me with the output of the command -> mount02:47
arvind_khadrishree_, about wat??02:47
Taladanhm02:47
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shree_arvind_khadri: if it is arch dpeendent02:47
Taladantry CTRL+C02:47
arvind_khadrishree_, which package??02:48
Taladanhaettulegur: sorry, try CTRL+C then type: fsck.ext3 /dev/hda102:48
matt__after trying out the compiz desktop settings crap, i decided to uninstall compiz*, but now what do i need to do to get back to the normalcy?02:48
haettulegurTaladan: "no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda1. The superblock could not be read..."02:48
shree_arvind_khadri: i mean if either landell or ereseva is arch dependent, then we will not land up wih a working isntallation02:48
Taladanhaettulegur: then try /dev/sda102:49
Dragnslcrmatt__- if compiz is still running, you can run kwin --replace02:49
haettulegurTaladan: "you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"02:49
arvind_khadrishree_, they arent arch dependent ... as they are scripts checking your environment and setting theselves properly02:49
Taladanoy....you've got a corrupted superblock and I can't remember how to figure out where the next valid sb is02:49
haettulegurTaladan: ah, ok, it's running a check again now02:49
matt__Dragnslcr: i'll give it a try02:49
arvind_khadrishree_, i cant compress a whole big concept in some few lines :) that was confusing02:50
shree_arvind_khadri: what you mean is that, if they detect a different arch, they will report a error02:50
haettulegurTaladan: (the /dev/sda1 thing is running)02:50
shree_arvind_khadri: in case they are arch dependent02:50
haettulegurTaladan: is there a way of using a livecd and backing up all my data from that? (it's just what i've seen from some random googling, so just curious)02:51
arvind_khadrishree_, in case they are arch dependent they wont install spitting errors .... but AFAIK sources from SVN arent arch dependent or even if they are the tool using to get them resolves it and gets the one you need to have02:51
chris32882I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system02:52
shree_kk02:52
Taladanhaettulegur: *nods*  You might also check out a -> "cat /etc/fstab" when that's done and look for a line that looks like UUID=<some big alphanumeric>    ext3  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1   and make sure that's the only line in there that has a '1' in the last column.02:52
ubuntuhey02:52
nosrednaekimhello ubuntu02:52
Taladanhaettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.02:53
shree_arvind_khadri: do you think we will give a try compiling it. I have not much of an idea :). I will need guidance02:53
Taladanhaettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across02:53
arvind_khadrishree_, that would be on a bleeding edge ... actually would need to read the source first ...02:53
haettulegur_ack, sorry, poor wireless (but i'm wired now :))02:53
ubuntui am new to kubuntu, just now came , any body give the ebook to kubuntu02:54
Taladanhaettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.<resay>02:54
arvind_khadrishree_, i can help am not saying no,but may take up the whole day02:54
haettulegur_Taladan: ah, im getting the same error as beffore: 'error reading block...while getting next inode from scan. ignore error?'02:54
Taladanhaettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across<resay>02:54
Taladanhaettulegur: does it give you the superblock number?02:54
shree_arvind_khadri: isnt it that it is about running the configure script, make and then install02:54
haettulegur_Taladan: error reading block 2123368402:54
arvind_khadrishree_, :) not always you need to check if it requires something else02:55
arvind_khadrishree_, make sometimes takes hours to run02:56
shree_you mean some other packages?02:56
arvind_khadrishree_, yeah02:56
Taladanhaettulegur: okay...this is going to be a little...um...weird02:56
arvind_khadrishree_, libs02:56
Taladanhaettulegur: type: dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 > fsinfo.txt02:56
haettulegur_Taladan: so I should ctrl-c out of this to get to a command line first?02:56
Taladanhaettulegur: yeah02:57
shree_arvind_khadri: do you think that info should be in the readme file of the tar ball02:57
ubuntuTaladan: is there any link of the kubuntu?02:57
ubuntuebook02:57
shree_arvind_khadri: brb02:57
ubuntu?02:57
arvind_khadrishree_, yeah there would be a requirements file ... you can find wat it needs02:57
Taladanubuntu: hm?02:57
haettulegur_Taladan: ctrl-c-ing doesn't work (it just brought me to a new 'error-reading-block')02:58
Taladanhaettulegur: hrm.  Try CTRL+C again02:58
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haettulegur_Taladan: nope, no command line02:58
Taladanhaettulegur: try ALT+F202:58
kubKid?02:59
Taladancan't remember if it opens up the other ttys in maintenance mode or not02:59
haettulegur_Taladan: just a black screen02:59
Taladanhaettulegur: ALT+F1 then02:59
TaladankubKid: I don't understand your question02:59
arvind_khadriTaladan, that ctrl+alt+f102:59
haettulegur_Taladan: 'starting up...*some stuff*...no resume image, doing normal boot'03:00
Taladanarvind_khadri: if he's at CLI the ctrl shouldn't matter, but it can't hurt, might help just in case03:00
Taladanhaettulegur: hit CTRL+D03:00
* arvind_khadri smiles03:00
minaquaanyone happen to know to fix the video driver issue that is slowing my computer?03:00
haettulegur_Taladan: ctrl-D and ctrl-alt-f1 do nothing03:00
Taladanhaettulegur: hate to say this then, it sounds like you may be frozen...I would first try rebooting the machine and let it try to fsck itself on initial boot...it may be able to recover the bad superblock, but I'm doubtful at this point03:01
haettulegur_Taladan: ok. ill get a livecd in the meantime :)03:02
Taladanhaettulegur: yeah, do that, because even if you don't end up reinstalling your system, you can still repair it with the livecd03:02
chris32882I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system03:03
chris32882and my xp system is sharing03:03
Taladanchris32882: are you using simple file sharing on XP?03:03
chris32882was able to share with this pc, with vista before install of kubuntu03:03
chris32882I'm not sure, its just set up to share03:04
TaladanThen you're using simple file sharing03:04
chris32882ok than I am :)03:04
TeslaTonyHow do I go about locking my home directory out so other users can't view my files?03:04
TaladanWhen you open up network folders->samba shares on kubuntu what does it say?03:05
TaladanTeslaTony: chmod -R 700 /home/<user>03:05
chris32882it shows my home folder03:05
haettulegur_Taladan: how exactly do i boot into a livecd?03:05
chris32882on this machine03:05
Taladanhaettulegur: drop it into the tray and let it boot from it.  If your bios isn't configured to boot from a CD before the hdd though you'll have to reconfig the boot order in the bios03:06
shree_arvind_khadri: hey, iam looking through this tar ball. it has some files and scripts like  like NEWS, README,mkinstalldirs, configure, makefile etc. install etc.03:06
Taladanchris32882: and you're sure samba is running?03:06
TeslaTonyTaladan: Thanks.03:06
TaladanTeslaTony: welcome03:07
arvind_khadrishree_, which one??03:07
chris32882no I am not sure, how do I check to see if its running? I figured it was since the sama shares folder was there03:07
Taladanchris32882: open a terminal and type ps -ef|grep smb03:07
shree_arvind_khadri: oh, landell03:07
chris32882k03:07
ronnieany know if kubunu reads prefetch , bios, interrupt channels,??, they were set when I bought this old computer, but I have the option to put them on auto which lets the operating system choose config, wow I almost sound like a teckie geek lol03:07
arvind_khadrishree_, from where did you get the source??03:08
shree_arvind_khadri: i am looking at the tar ball from sourceforge03:08
arvind_khadrishree_, ok03:08
arvind_khadrishree_, so you want to get it working?03:08
chris32882arlight, done03:08
shree_arvind_khadri: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/landell/landell0.2_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz?modtime=1156779568&big_mirror=003:08
shree_arvind_khadri: yup03:08
shree_arvind_khadri: BTW, where r u?03:08
arvind_khadrishree_, am in Bangalore....you03:09
chris32882want me to paste what it says in here?03:09
haettulegur_Taladan: hmm...so while trying to reboot into the livecd (i guess it's not configured to boot into a cd before the hd) i managed to get into what i think is a working command line (it asked me to login, and now ls and such works)03:09
shree_arvind_khadri: I am in Virginia03:09
shree_arvind_khadri: are you working03:09
Taladanchris32882: if it's got something besides 'grep smb' in there, then it's probably running.  Try a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart03:09
haettulegur_Taladan: should i just try plugging an external hd in, and cp-ing everything over?03:09
arvind_khadrishree_, am a student and got a test tomorrow :)03:10
shree_arvind_khadri: which college03:10
Taladanhaettulegur: well, which livecd are you using?03:10
haettulegur_Taladan: or actually booting into the livecd?03:10
arvind_khadrishree_, AMC Bannerghata road03:10
haettulegur_Taladan: livecd is kubuntu 7.1003:10
arvind_khadrishree_, pm me03:10
shree_arvind_khadri: good. i am a PESITian03:10
Taladanhm...it shouldn't boot directly into a commandline.  But it didn't say anything about fsck errors when you booted?03:11
arvind_khadrishree_, dont want to be scolded here :)03:11
chris32882says command not found03:11
shree_arvind_khadri: i guess you can study now03:11
Taladanchris32882: try changing samba to smb03:11
haettulegur_Taladan: err...yeah, nevermind...it now spontaneously is giving me errors. ill try going  into the livecd again03:11
chris32882still the same03:11
shree_arvind_khadri: i know the pressure of internals. lol03:11
* Taladan can't remember which one it's put there under03:11
Taladanhaettulegur_: what errors is it giving you?03:11
lellenosrednaekim: SUCCESS! there was a new bios which fixed detecting wrong mem sizes ... now I have all my memory, wonder if I can go back to 32bit and still have all? 64bit seems to have slight issues still03:12
nosrednaekimlelle: no.. you can't03:13
haettulegur_Taladan: the same errors it gave me when i tried to fsck, i think. (not sure--i rebooted.) should i select 'start or install kubuntu' or 'start kubuntu in safe graphics mode' now?03:13
nosrednaekimbut thats awesome :)03:13
Taladanstart or install k03:13
chris32882hmm03:14
ronnieis anyone else finding kubuntu (hearty) takes longer to boot up than (gutsy)?, maybe I have some tweaking to work out = )03:15
Taladanchris32882: still the same what...is it not restarting samba?03:15
haettulegur_Taladan: ok, im now in. how do i copy my old folders over?03:16
ronnieor guess it could be the almost 25,000 package choices making it slower = )03:16
Taladanhaettulegur_: what you're going to want to do is open a terminal, then type sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd03:17
Taladanhaettulegur_: then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd03:17
chris32882Taladan: its saying "command not found"03:17
Taladanchris32882: what exactly are you typing?03:17
chris32882sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and that didn't work, so I did udo /etc/init.d/smb restart03:18
haettulegur_Taladan: ok03:19
Taladanhaettulegur_: then you're going to want to make sure that your external hdd is mounted up (k should show it mounted on the desktop as a usb dev), open that up in a window and then open up another file browser window and navigate over to /mnt/hdd/home/<user> and then copy everything from one window to the other03:19
Taladanchris32882: udo or sudo?03:19
Taladanchris32882: where was the typo initially?03:20
chris32882sudo03:20
chris32882I miss typed it here03:20
Taladanchris32882: then I'd try typing sudo apt-get install samba03:21
Taladanchris32882: because it sounds like samba's not installed on that machine03:21
chris32882ok03:21
chris32882I'll try that now03:21
earlhhas anyone here noticed that hardy is slow to shutdown / logout,  as well as locking up during these operations using ati fglrx03:21
haettulegur_Taladan: hmm, any idea why it says 'access denied' to certain files? (files that shouldn't have any special permissions...eg, pdf files that i made at the same time as others that don't get an access denied)03:22
chris32882installing now03:22
Taladanhaettulegur_: could be set read only.  What I'd do is open up a terminal and type: sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdd/home/03:22
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chris32882installed, and started..checking seeing if its sharing03:23
chris32882Taladan: its a no go, still the same03:25
chris32882wont show other computer03:26
* Taladan tries to remember how samba works...been a little bit03:26
chris32882heh makes 2 of us03:26
Taladaniirc, the last time I futzed around with samba, it just automagically picked up the windows shares.  Are you sure that the folders are still shared on the windows machines?  Also have you tried to smbmount the folders?03:27
daemon3Even though Hardy is cool, it wasn't as cool as I was expecting it to be.03:27
daemon3:)03:27
haettulegur_Taladan: ok, great!! thank you so (do while true loop) much!03:27
daemon3I just wanted to say..."Good job developers!"03:28
haettulegur_if i could bake you cookies or something (virtual cookies?), i definitely would :)03:28
Taladanhaettulegur_: *chuckles*  Well, we can still try and repair your os before you nuke it if you want03:28
Taladanhaettulegur_: but you're welcome03:28
ScarEyeHey guys.  I got unbuntu 8.04 installed on this laptop and I got compiz installed also.  I need to know where the config is to have the cube effect.  I am only getting a 2D effect right now.03:29
Taladanhaettulegur_: in fact..just for my ego, do you mind if I help you troubleshoot it on out for a few more minutes/03:29
Taladan?03:29
haettulegur_Taladan: haha, anything you'd like :)03:30
Taladanhaettulegur_: have a terminal open?03:30
haettulegur_yeah03:31
chris32882Taladan: everything is shared yes,  how do you smbmount the folders?03:31
TeslaTonyScarEye: There's a package called "compizconfig-settings-manager." Install that through adept or apt, and it should show up. You'll also need compiz-kde (unless you're on KDE4 or gnome)03:32
ScarEyeTeslaTony: I got that already installed03:32
ScarEyeI got the advanced version installed03:32
Taladanchris32882: you may have to get something like pyneighborhood03:32
Taladanchris32882: don't remember if it comes native in samba03:33
chris32882alright03:33
TeslaTonyScarEye: Then go to Settings->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, and check the box for the cube.03:33
Taladanhaettulegur_: okay, type: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 >> ~/fsinfo.txt03:34
Taladanhaettulegur_: how comfortable are you with the vim text editor?03:35
haettulegur_Taladan: oh, goddamn, im an emacs guy. i hate vim :) (i always forget how to exit and such)03:36
ScarEyeTeslaTony: Did that brotha03:36
haettulegur_Taladan: also, im still in the process of copying some stuff over (almost finished), so should i wait to type dump the output to the txt, or is it okay to do it now?03:36
haettulegur_Taladan: but i can handle vim for now :)03:37
TaladanThat's okay, emacs should be on there, I think.  Open up fsinfo.txt in your fav editor and look for the range that superblock 21233684 falls inbetween03:37
Taladanhaettulegur_: nah, dumpe2fs simply gathers info about your filesystem03:37
ScarEyeHow can I make sure I am opengl running?03:37
ScarEyeI have *03:37
ScarEyeopengl running03:37
Taladanhaettulegur_: lemme know when you find that03:38
TeslaTonyScarEye: And you're still not getting a cube when you switch desktops?03:38
Taladanchris32882: if you're still here, the command may actually be mount.smb...I think smbmount may be deprecated03:38
chris32882alright let me try it03:39
ScarEyenope..  I hold down the mouse and alt key. I don't see a "cube"  just a flat destop that has 2 siddes03:39
TeslaTonyScarEye: Ack. I forgot. KDE has some issues with compiz. Go into the settings for the cube and set the desktop size to 4, then go to the pager and set the size to 103:40
haettulegur_Taladan: ok, found it03:41
poseidonIs there a way to sync my thunderbird on windows and linux so they have the same contacts, acounts, folders, etc?03:42
Taladanchris32882: but you can try something like mount -t smbfs \\server\share username=<UN> password=<PW> workgroup=<WG> /mnt03:42
Taladanhaettulegur_: okay, what does it say there for 'backup superblock'03:42
ScarEyeTeslaTony: I click on the "Desktop Cube" button.  And I have 4 tabs.  General, Appearance, Behaviour, Transparent Cude03:42
ScarEyeWhich tab has that option ?03:43
chris32882alright03:43
william__now i installed ubuntu and then in cli did a sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop will i have k3.5 or kde403:43
Taladanwilliam__: 303:43
haettulegur_Taladan: hmm...it doesn't have a 'backup superblock' thing under that group03:44
Taladanhaettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?03:44
TeslaTonyScarEye: I believe it's under appearance...unfortunately I don't currently have access to that window03:44
haettulegurTaladan: err...somehow being disconnected even though im wired...last thing i said was that it doesn't have a backup superblock under that group03:46
Taladanhaettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?03:46
ScarEyeTeslaTony: Yea I don't see that option in there.  You know what I am going to install this version of KUbuntu  on a real desktop computer and see what happens.  Maybe this laptop is being funky. Thank you for you time and help. I really appreciate it.03:46
haettulegurTaladan: 2388787203:47
Taladanhaettulegur: okay, go to the cli again.  type sudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda1  but make sure your file copy is finished.03:47
Taladans/finished/finished first/03:48
TeslaTonyScarEye: Sorry I couldn't be more help. The guys over at #compiz-fusion are probably going to be more help03:48
ScarEyeTeslaTony: Okay I will check out compiz-fusion.  Still thanks for your time.  =)03:50
leucashi there03:52
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* Taladan yawns03:53
Leucashave anybody upgraded kubuntu from ubuntu?03:53
Leucason hardy03:53
TeslaTonyLeucas: I have, with KDE4, though03:53
Leucaswell but I dont want to install kde4... is it possible to do it with kde 303:54
Leucas?03:54
LeucasIm asking it because I've already done it on gutsy...03:55
Leucasbut in this newer release I don't know if it is the same03:55
TeslaTonyLeucas: Absolutely. Just type in the command line "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" That gives you kde3 and a bunch of other packages03:55
Leucasvery good03:56
TeslaTonyLeucas: If you wanted KDE4, it'd be kubuntu-kde4-desktop03:56
LeucasI was pretty happy with my kubuntu gutsy... but it has an issue with sound of my laptop03:56
Leucasand I've tried the liveCD of ubuntu and they've corrected03:57
Taladanhaettulegur: you still with me bud?03:58
LeucasTeslaTony: thank you so much03:58
haettulegurTaladan: yeah, sorry. last folder :)03:58
TaladanS'alright.  I was afraid you'd wandered off into the dark and been eaten by a grue03:59
haettulegurTaladan: grues dont eat me, i eat them03:59
chris32882alright I downloaded the samba browser I seee the workgroup and just my computer04:00
Taladanchris32882: good deal.  Click on the workgroup04:00
chris32882yeah I have, just shows my pc04:02
chris32882not the other :(04:03
chris32882I am going to try the network set up wizard on the xp system04:03
chris32882see if that helps04:03
pottydashitterwhenz interpid alpha come out?04:03
coreymon77oh come on04:03
coreymon77hardy just came out yesterday04:03
coreymon77are you seriously asking that potty?04:04
Taladanheh04:04
pottydashitteryeah04:04
coreymon77wow04:04
coreymon77talk about impatient04:04
pottydashitterjk04:04
coreymon77this should have been hungry hippo though04:05
coreymon77not hardy heron04:05
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coreymon77and the one for L better have lolcat in it :P04:06
NIghtFirehi04:06
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haettulegurhow are the names decided anyways?04:07
Taladanlumpy lemur04:07
coreymon77lumpy lolcat!04:07
TaladanI'm waiting for wicked weasel04:07
NIghtFireis that 8.04 release worth the upgrade ?04:07
coreymon77since they didnt do hungry hippo this time, they have to do something lolcat for L04:08
dwidmannNIghtFire: yes.04:08
NIghtFireis the version thats out now still a beta version ?04:08
coreymon77nope04:09
coreymon77full stable04:09
NIghtFirek thanks04:09
NIghtFireone other question did they get the issue with broadcom wireless cards resolved ?04:10
coreymon77NIghtFire: what issue are we talking04:10
coreymon77NIghtFire: and which cards?04:10
NIghtFireI read something on the Ubuntu page under known issues that said that if your machine had a broadcom wireless card you would get a driver manager crash on install.04:11
Taladanum....haven't heard about that one...heard about the need for the ndis-wrappers for broadcom chipsets though04:11
NIghtFireThey said that it could be resolved buy downloading a new driver but how are you supposed to do that if the wireless is down?04:12
jih2dhey, anyone ever have a problem with amarok not seeing all audio files?04:12
NIghtFireI ask because I have a hp lappy that has an onboard broadcom chip set and I have had a $%#@%#$ of a time getting it to work with each upgrade04:14
jih2di need my tunes04:14
Kiryjih2d, YES04:14
KiryI have NO sound after the update04:14
KiryVERY annoyed04:14
jih2dusing alsa?04:14
Kiry<-- thinkpad Z60A04:15
Kiryalsa?04:15
KiryI know I launched amarok and heard NOTHING04:15
jih2dalsamixer might have stuff muted04:15
Kiryand my DVDs don't have sound either04:15
shree_Taladan:see you later. i am going to try out gnome04:15
Kiry<-- VERY VERY new to the whole 'nix world04:15
Kirywhere would I find that out?04:15
Taladanshree_: have fun with that ;)04:15
NIghtFirespeaking of DVDs I have yet to find a way to play dvd movies on ubuntu.04:16
jih2dtry typing alsamixer in terminal and make sure what you need is is green04:16
KiryI use Kaffeine to play them04:16
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jih2dmeaning in use or not muted04:17
NIghtFirewhere to find kaffeine ?04:17
chris32882K Menue > Multimedia04:18
chris32882if you have it installed04:19
NIghtFirek thanks04:19
chris32882woo hoo I helped someone and I'm a noob!04:19
haettuleguryou can also try vlc: sudo apt-get install vlc (kaffeine never seems to work well for me)04:21
chris32882vlc is pretty cool basicly works with anything04:21
haettulegurTaladan: done copying at last :)04:21
watthasongkhro_wis there any way to check my basic pc spec in kubuntu?04:21
Taladanhaettulegur: still got that command I told you earlier?04:21
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Taladansudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda104:23
Taladanjust in case04:23
pottytheshitterwhy use ext3?04:23
poseidonHow do I edit my kmenu?04:24
poseidonnm04:24
haettulegurTaladan: yep, running it now04:25
juanhello, I have kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3 ... how can I install a kde 4 as well on this installation?04:25
Taladanhaettulegur: good deal.  Lemme know what it comes out with04:25
haettulegurTaladan: ok, its giving me the same error as before. error reading block 2123368404:30
Taladanhaettulegur: crud.04:31
Taladanlemme think for a minute04:32
haettulegurhaha, a bit anticlimactic? :)04:32
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Taladana touch04:35
hdd!akpm04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about akpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:35
hdd!andrewmorton04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about andrewmorton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:36
Taladanhaettulegur: can you c/p the actual entire error for me04:38
haettulegurTaladan: yep, just a sec04:40
NIghtFireHave vlc loaded want to watch Star Wars attack of the Clones having troubles making the thing play.  I get the fed warning screen up and the rating screen and then it stops04:40
coreymon77NIghtFire: do you have any other way of acessing the internet04:40
NIghtFireyes04:40
coreymon77NIghtFire: ethernet perhaps04:40
coreymon77because i could help you get it to work04:40
NIghtFireIm on broadband behind a router and firewall04:40
coreymon77hdd: btw, andrew morton is the name of my english teacher :p04:41
coreymon77NIghtFire: when wifi isnt working, do you have any way of accessing the internet?04:41
NIghtFireyes on another machine04:42
coreymon77NIghtFire: i mean on that machine04:42
coreymon77NIghtFire: aka, do you have an ethernet cable that you could use to plug directly into the router04:42
NIghtFireyes04:42
NIghtFireI could do that I guess.04:42
coreymon77well, then, use the ethernet cable to connect that box to the internet04:42
coreymon77and then i could help you get it working04:43
coreymon77NIghtFire: you see, there is a solution for everything04:44
NIghtFiremost of the time it's just a matter of finding the people who have "done it" before and that is why I come to rooms like this one.04:45
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coreymon77i havent done it before, ive used either ndiswrapper, ralink cards, or my latest and best, the airlink101 awlh4030 atheros chip card04:46
coreymon77but, i know how to get a bcm43xx card working04:46
coreymon77im assuming you have a bcm43xx card, right?04:47
* Taladan is fading04:47
coreymon77NIghtFire: am i right?04:48
NIghtFireyes that is chipset that is in my lappy I got it to work by fooling the os into thinking it was a wire connection.04:50
NIghtFireat least with gutsy04:50
coreymon77NIghtFire: no need04:50
coreymon77NIghtFire: bcn43xx cards are easy to get working, providing you have an alternate way to access the intarwebs04:51
coreymon77such as an ethernet cable04:51
Taladanhaettulegur: at this point, lemme just suggest to proceed with the reinstall unless someone else knows more about repairing bad superblocks....I'm fading fast over here and need to sleep soon04:52
NIghtFireright now the lappy uses a vmware image of 7.10 and works well but I am nervous about going through the pain again.04:52
haettulegurTaladan: oh, yeah, reinstalling's no problem with me :)04:52
haettulegurTaladan: thank you again for everything!04:53
* Taladan nods04:53
Taladansorry I couldn't be more help recovering the fs04:53
coreymon77im usually good at it04:53
coreymon77but, your choice04:53
Alucard_Hellsingcan any one help me..i cant get java runtime to work04:53
haettulegurtry to get to level 36 while you sleep :)04:54
coreymon77NIghtFire: trust me, you dont know wifi woes until it takes you an entire week to get it to work04:54
NIghtFireI tried for several months to get this setup to work with Fiesty04:55
coreymon77wow, either you really dont know what you are doing04:56
coreymon77or you need a better card04:56
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coreymon77or both :P04:56
NIghtFireI will admit that I don't know alot about linux but the "card" - "chipset" came eom on my hp prosario lappy04:57
jerbear_anyone using kde4 in hardy?04:57
* Taladan idles down04:57
pottytheshitterkde is fragmented right now04:57
jerbear_yeh, i noticed04:58
jerbear_remixed edition?04:58
pottytheshitteri moved to gnome after 8.0405:01
jerbear_i've never used kde4... is it going down in flames?05:02
* NightBird has been using kde4 since it came out and hasn't had problems05:03
coreymon77jerbear_: no it isnt05:03
coreymon77some usershave jsut had minor issues with it05:03
coreymon77many of us are just wating for 4.105:03
jerbear_i guess it is still fairly new05:04
coreymon77exactly05:04
* KhaoticMind is awaiting for 4.1 :)05:04
NightBirdheh05:04
jerbear_seems very flashy... not sure i dig that05:04
coreymon77and as with anything linux related, new=still a few bugs to iron out05:04
sepeckseems a familer refrain05:04
KhaoticMindthose damn flies... :/05:04
coreymon77pottytheshitter: so, why are you in this channel exactly, shouldnt you be in #ubuntu?05:04
chris32882basicly the same isn't it?05:05
pottytheshitteri use gnome desktop not gnome apps05:05
sepeckif you don;t like a technology it's harder to knock it in a channel that supports it maybe05:05
chris32882besides no one isn't in #ubuntu :)05:06
sepeckthe video almost works for me but everything is shiftwed over tot he right off monitor.05:07
pottytheshitter Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)05:07
sepeckmaybe a name problem?05:07
chris32882I joined just fine, there just wasn't anyone in there cept me :(05:08
shree_People, I was using Kubuntu-deksopt and now I ahve switched over to Ubuntu-dekstop. How dO i clean the Kubuntu-desktop installation05:08
sepeckI see a ton of people05:08
chris32882weird05:08
chris32882dunno its05:09
chris32882"#ubuntu"?05:09
sepecknetsplit perhaps or spelling05:09
sepeck#ubuntu05:09
shree_chris32882: you want me to try in ubuntu?05:09
phil_is there an easy way to get permission to  paste something in dolphin?05:09
chris32882weird I am in now05:09
chris32882lol05:09
shree_chris32882: This is #kubuntu05:10
* sepeck attempts to get monitor settings right one more time05:10
MrGnuHi all, I need some help.  How do I get KUBUNTU to work, I had tried before in Gutsy but the KDE base never was recognized. I left me with the splash screen, but no working KUBUNTU.  Now I am in hardy, I still have the splash screen, and I want to try again, but this time I want to be sure it works. Can someone tell me the best way to get KUBUNTU session added to this current Hardy Gnome installation?05:10
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chris32882yes I know this, shree_, I was trying to join #ubuntu, but when i did was a empty channel05:11
KhaoticMindMrGnu: i do believe the best way to do this is installing the kubuntu-desktop package... apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:11
erlanfernandoola05:12
shree_People, please help me uninstall Kubuntu-desktop i nits entirety05:13
shree_Taladan: can you help me uninstall Kubuntu desktop that I have got Ubuntu desktop installed05:13
MrGnuwhen I did that in Gutsy, it left me with a working splash screen, but the KDE was not recognized.  If I do this, in Hardy, could I run into the same problem?05:13
italyi booted up remix but for some reason it goes to some crazy resolution and xorg.conf doesn't have anything to change it05:14
phil_when I did that Mr Gnu I got a kubuntu login that logged into ubuntu, untill I selected kubuntu in the drop down list at the login screen05:14
KhaoticMindMrGnu:  which splash screen are we talking about? Boot splash or the splash after login?05:15
MrGnuboot splash05:16
italyany suggestions?05:16
italyI can't change the resolution : <05:16
phil_is there a way to copy files in dolphin where it can let my use the root password to do it?05:16
phil_sorry I found it05:17
KhaoticMindthats weird MrGnu, for what i know the boot process should be the same for both gnome and kde...05:18
MrGnuWell this was in Gutsy, I have not tried to install KUBUNTU again05:19
MrGnubut I guess the best way to do it is by sudo apt get-install kubuntu-desktop05:19
KhaoticMindif you just want kubuntu (and dump gnome) you can also try to install the kubuntu CD instead of ubuntu...05:19
MrGnuIve been podering that, and I might go kubuntu 64 bit, if they have a version like that?05:20
KhaoticMindaye they have :)05:20
KhaoticMindthou, you might find some problems with the 64bit version (both ubuntu and kubuntu)05:21
KhaoticMindlike drivers and even java...05:21
Makuseruwhen ever i middle click on a link in firefox it opens up that link a new tab, i like that. but, if i miss the link and click on just the background not the link it pastes what ever link i have copied into the bar and takes me there, how can i stop this from happening05:24
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Frederickfolks can I play zsnes online?05:33
harolddongdoes konqueror kde4 still seem pretty unfinished for everybody?  Is it one of the apps that probably won't be totally ready until 4.1?05:34
harolddonglike, I still can't import bookmarks at all and flash seems to make it freak out05:34
Frederickdamm I lost con can you please na any good emulator again?05:35
MrGnucool Khaotic, I ll  give it a shot, and set up a dual boot or something05:35
KhaoticMindMrGnu: head to www.kubuntu.org to plenty of info about kubuntu, and some download links as well ;)05:39
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gothicd3vilhi05:42
gothicd3vilcan somebody tell me the name of a program like Office in windows for Linux Kubuntu?05:43
NightBirdgothicd3vil: open office or koffice05:44
gothicd3vilis the same format?05:44
NightBirdOpen Office is installed by default on kubuntu05:44
NightBirdmostly05:44
NightBirdit supports all of the office file formats05:45
gothicd3vilthanks is that i have classes by internet and i have to send homeworks05:45
NightBirdwell, I'm not sure about the latest office formats, but I know it does the ones previous05:45
NightBirdah05:45
NightBirdI'm sure it will do fine for you then05:45
neonhow cab i get kbfx to work, i apply the style but nothing happens?05:46
gothicd3vilthanks05:46
gothicd3vilhave a good night05:46
noam_hey, i'm going to reinstall the new version rather than upgrade. should i also delete ~/.* to "start afresh"?05:59
cahuezbuenas a tod@s..06:01
yoyomahello, how can i make the fonts in KDE4 big enough to read?06:02
macamposoii06:06
macamposalguem ai pode me ajudar06:06
macampos????06:06
macamposhi06:07
macamposI nead help with my wireless card06:07
cahuezhi macampos..06:08
macamposhi06:08
cahuezwireless card..06:08
macamposCahuez  my wireless card no identifie  networs ssid06:09
macamposis a intel 3945ABG06:09
cahuezok, so let us know what is the output of> ifconfig ..06:10
Dragonathis it normal considering heron release that adept takes a load of time to download update headers?06:10
macamposifconfig result in 4 networks06:10
macamposeth0 (cable )06:10
cahuezyeap..06:10
macamposlo (loapback )06:10
macamposand wlan06:11
cahuezeth1 probably will be the wireless one..06:11
cahuezyeap..06:11
macamposno my wireless06:11
DragonathI'd bet on wlan06:11
macamposis a wlan006:11
macamposbut06:11
cahuezis there a ip address on it..!?06:12
macamposshow to wmaster006:12
macamposdon't hava  ip06:12
macamposny router is a linksys06:12
macamposwep 206:12
macampos and dhcp server06:13
macamposbut no show my network in my laptop06:13
Dragonathwhat command do you use to scan?06:14
DragonathI have an old laptop that doesn't show any networks unless you do a sudo iwlist scan06:15
cahuezhumm..06:15
cahueztry a ping to <the eth1 ip address> ..06:16
Dragonathhowever there's only 1 network to which it has actually managed to connect, so something else might be broken too06:16
macamposdont have eth106:16
macamposi have eth006:16
macamposand06:17
macamposwlan006:17
cahuezeth0 is working..06:17
macamposyes06:17
cahuezok, ping to wlan0 ip address..06:17
macamposno ping06:17
cahuezchecking...06:17
harrissinong pilipino d206:17
macampostest failure06:17
cahuezok...06:18
cahuezand you are near a wlan lan..?06:18
macamposyes06:19
macamposwlan006:19
Dragonathno, that's an interface06:19
Dragonathwhat you need is a network to connect to06:19
macamposok06:20
macamposi have a network06:20
Dragonathtry "iwlist scan"06:20
macamposiwlist wlan0 scan06:21
macamposno returne results06:21
Dragonaththen try "sudo iwlist scan"06:21
macamposin kubuntu 7.1006:21
macamposmy network is ok06:22
macamposi install a 8.04 version06:22
macamposno more wireless06:22
Dragonathok06:22
macamposyou know any problem with 8.04 version06:23
macampos??06:23
DragonathI don't really know what could be causing it06:23
Dragonathbecause I'm still running 7.1006:23
macamposok06:23
Dragonathwhat you probably want to do, is downgrade to a previous version of ifconfig or iwlist06:23
macamposdowngrade06:24
macamposhumm06:24
macamposiwlist probe06:25
macamposok06:25
macampostks06:25
Dragonathyou might also want to try to search for known problems with your network card06:25
Dragonathon google or something06:25
macamposi search06:25
macamposbut 8.04 is a new version06:25
DragonathI think if you google for "kubuntu 8.04 <card name>"06:25
Dragonathindeed06:25
macamposi dont have more informations about is06:26
macamposok06:26
macampostks06:26
Dragonathno worries06:26
Dragonathhope you get the problem sorted06:26
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harrisHELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox06:36
harris HELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox06:37
harrisplease06:37
cahuezfirefox is available through your k/internet menu option already..?06:37
Willizardudes06:39
harrisi dont get it, im sorry... I'm newbie here..... I'm usingkubuntu 7.0406:39
thedonvaughnharris: you install it?  If so it's in KDE start -> Internet -> Firefox06:39
Willizarhow do i use my mic on kopete06:39
thedonvaughnharris: sudo apt-get install firefo06:39
thedonvaughnharris: sudo apt-get install firefox   - rather06:39
harriswhere ? will i type it06:39
harris?06:40
thedonvaughnharris: System -> Konsole06:40
harrisokay06:40
harrisim in the console06:40
cahuezthen check with > man firefox first..06:41
hydrogenerr06:41
hydrogenwut?06:41
hydrogenthats like, the worst idea i've ever heard06:42
harriswhhhaaaa still dont get it06:42
hydrogenand I've been in support channels for a long time06:42
harrisi did install the firefox06:42
hydrogenalt+f2 > type in firefox06:42
harrislaoding06:42
harriserror06:43
harrisNOSE BLEED06:44
harrisAn error occurred while loading http://firefox.meridiantelekoms.com/:06:44
cahuezthen try> firefox & in console ..06:45
harrisharris@harris-desktop:~$ firefox06:46
harrisThe program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:06:46
harrissudo apt-get install firefox06:46
harrisbash: firefox: command not found06:46
harrisharris@harris-desktop:~$ apt-get install firefox06:46
harrisE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:46
harrisE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?06:46
harrisharris@harris-desktop:~$06:46
milosz_hydrogen: try first pkill -9 firefox06:46
hydrogenmilosz_: uhh wut?06:47
harriswahhhhh help2x06:47
harrisnewbie me06:47
hydrogen!patience | harris06:47
ubotuharris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:47
milosz_hydrogen: I think that firefox is running\06:47
hydrogenread the gigantic amount of output harris pasted06:47
hydrogennot me06:47
harrissorry06:48
harrisheheheeee06:48
harristhis is FUN06:48
harrisokay i'll figure it out06:48
milosz_hydrogen: ups, I just woke up :)06:49
harrispatience is the essence06:49
harrisso how mr HYDROGEN..... how can i run application?06:51
harrisi can't run an executable file06:51
milosz_harris: did you tried sudo apt-get install firefox06:53
ISS_StudentI didn't thnk linx used exe files06:53
maduserit doesn't06:54
harrisyes yes milosz i did in konsole06:54
maduser?06:54
maduserdid you try though the apt manager?06:55
harrisokay06:55
harristhere is a password06:55
maduserand?06:55
ISS_StudentI just went to add/remove programs and did it that way06:55
harrisI'll put my password06:55
maduseris this your fist time using linux?06:55
ISS_StudentMe or harris?06:56
harrisyahhhhhhhhh06:56
harrisfirst time06:56
maduserhave you ever used ubuntu06:56
maduser?06:56
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harrisnot yet06:56
maduserok ummm06:56
LeeuwI ticked to ' off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot'  something like that, it had a warning that after changing stuff it could break the system; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find that se06:56
ISS_StudentI've used kubuntu for probably around a year or so06:57
maduserme too but i have been using linux for about 806:57
harrisBuilding dependency tree06:57
harrisReading state information... Done06:57
harrisPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:57
harrisThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:57
harrisis only available from another source06:57
harrisE: Package firefox has no installation candidate06:57
harrisharris@harris-desktop:~$06:57
maduser...................................06:57
maduseroh yeah!................you have to get firefox 3 now06:57
harrisi typed06:58
harrisBuilding dependency tree06:58
Dr_willisexecutable is different from '.exe'06:58
Dr_willisyou set the executable bit on a file under linux.  and its an executable file06:58
harrisReading state information... Done06:58
harrisPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:58
harrisThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or06:58
harrisis only available from another source06:58
harrisE: Package firefox has no installation candidate06:58
harrisharris@harris-desktop:~$06:58
harrissorry06:58
harrisfor the flood06:58
ISS_StudentI've used fedora for a few years mainly at school but prefer kubuntu on my laptop06:58
madusertry sudo apt-get firefox 306:58
hydrogenno..06:58
hydrogenspaces do not go in package names06:58
hydrogennever have, never will06:58
harrisinvalid operation maduser06:58
miloszghydrogen: firefox-306:58
hydrogenyou need to install mozilla-firefox06:58
madusertry sudo apt-get firefox306:58
hydrogenno.06:58
hydrogenno no no06:58
hydrogenjust no06:58
hydrogenbad guesses are bad06:59
harrisehehehhehehehe06:59
harrisfun fun06:59
maduserok this is stupid just use the apt manager06:59
hydrogenor, install mozilla-firefox06:59
maduserthat too06:59
harrisi already install it06:59
maduserok do you know how to use the apt manager?06:59
harrishere is the folder = /home/harris/firefox-2.0.0.14/firefox07:00
harrisno07:00
maduserthis terminal thing is not working07:00
maduserare you useing kde3 or 4?07:00
harrisactually im using 7.04 Kubuntu07:00
harrisit is not upgraded07:00
maduserok first upgrade07:00
maduserwe can't help you07:00
maduserthe package system for the older os's are useless07:01
harrisok thanks for help07:01
hydrogenerr07:01
hydrogenno07:01
hydrogennot particularlly07:01
harrisok07:01
maduserthe apt gets disabled for the older ones07:01
hydrogen7.04 is still supported07:01
harrishydro07:01
maduserreally?07:01
maduserok07:01
hydrogenmaduser: your talking out of your ass, stop it07:01
harrismaduser... bad cheetah07:02
maduserk fine07:02
harrishahahahahahahhaha :))07:02
maduserI'm tryng to help07:02
madusera guy who has no clue what he is doing07:02
hydrogenIt's not a good idea to try and help someone if you are not familiar with the material you are trying to help them with07:02
maduserI am07:02
maduserwith the apt07:02
madusermanager07:03
hydrogenI have no intentions of teaching anyone how to perform brain surgery07:03
harrisheeheeeeehe07:03
maduserk type adept_manager in the terminal07:03
maduserthis will bring up the manager07:03
harrisok07:04
harristheres the manager07:04
madusernow type firefox in the search07:04
stdinadept needs to be started as root, with kdesu/kdesudo07:04
zeth_Hola07:04
harrisok07:04
zeth_spanish07:05
hydrogenplus, he _already_ installed mozilla-firefox07:05
zeth_?07:05
stdin!es07:05
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.07:05
hydrogenso I'm not sure why we are going down this road07:05
ISS_Studentmaduser he needs to do that as  sudo07:05
zeth_thanks!!!07:05
maduserI take typing firefox in the terminal brings up nothing?07:06
maduserfor him?07:06
stdinI would check to make sure the repositories are enabled in adept07:06
hydrogenwell, we don't know whats happened since I told him to install mozilla-firefox07:06
hydrogenbecause the next thing that happened was you told him he had to update to hardy07:07
stdinfirefox is in main, so it would be enabled unless there was no net-connection at install07:07
ISS_Studentok here is my question what happened to nmap-fe?07:07
stdinISS_Student: I don't know, what happened to it?07:07
ISS_Studentstdin there is zenmap but I can't find it on the menu07:08
stdinISS_Student: try running "kbuildsycoca" to update the menu07:09
stdinthough knmap is a KDE gui for nmap iirc07:10
maduserso is that firefox probelm fixed07:16
* Dr_willis looks under the couch07:16
Dr_willisknmap - nmap graphical interface for KDE07:17
harrisokay for example i have ben.exe          = how can i run it?07:18
Dr_willisyou proberly want to run zenmap with 'kdesu zenmap' or kdesudo zenmap07:18
stdin!wine | harris07:18
ubotuharris: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.07:18
maduserbut no all programs work with wine07:18
maduserbut not all programs work with wine07:18
madusersome do and some don't07:19
harrisso do i need wine in running firefox.exe07:21
harrishehehhehe07:21
stdindid you do what was asked?07:21
stdindid you check your sources?07:21
harriswow HOW?07:22
stdinopen adept goto Adept -> Manage Repositories07:22
stdinmake sure they are checked07:23
stdinthen click "fetch updates"07:23
dinarthow do I log as the root?07:24
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stdin!root | dinart07:24
ubotudinart: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:24
The_ManU_212hi07:25
harriswheezzzz07:25
dinartstdin, yeah, but i want to use the graphic interface as the root07:25
dinartnot the console07:26
stdinthat's not supported07:26
stdinor recommended07:26
stdinor needed07:26
stdinsettings for that would be in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc07:26
draikstdin: general rule of thumb, "If you're not allowed, there's most likely a very good reason"07:27
stdindraik: tell that to dinart ;)07:27
dinarti just wanted to edit the file menu.lst at boot/grub07:27
draikstdin: I know, but I wanted your approval for the verbiage07:27
dinartto change the boot order07:27
stdindinart: do use 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'07:28
draikdinart: Use CLI or the command line.07:28
stdin"CLI or the command line" ?07:28
draikWhoops07:28
stdin;)07:28
draikCLI or the Run command07:28
dinarti'm not used with the linux console syntax07:29
stdinyou can also use the "Edit file as root" open from konqueror07:29
stdin*option07:29
draikdinart: I've preferred CLI editing lately. Go figure. I've been so used to KATE for a while and now I'm getting the urge to use CLI.07:30
greegthe latest kubuntu sucks.  im rolling back to a previous version07:30
greegnothing werks.07:30
stdindinart: right click the file in konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as Root07:31
dinartkonqueror?07:31
stdinthe file manager07:31
dinarti'm using Nautilus 2.22.2 here07:32
* Dr_willis notices this is the Kubuntu/KDE room...07:32
stdinthen you should ask in #ubuntu07:32
Dr_willis:)07:32
stdinI'm sure it's similar in nautilus, but I don't know the procedure07:32
dinartjust found it07:33
dinartat the synpatic07:33
dinartitś not instaled07:33
greegcan nautilus play youtube unchoppy ?07:34
* greeg apt-gets07:34
stdinask in #ubuntu07:34
bwpnautilus isn't a web browser, last i checked07:34
greegoh07:34
greegfuck07:34
greegfirefox sucks07:34
stdin!language | greeg07:35
ubotugreeg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.07:35
greegdolphin sucks07:35
greegkonquerer is good at crashing.07:35
Dr_willisHmm...  all these oponions from someone that dident realize nautilus wasent a web browser....07:35
stdinthanks for your opinion, but this isn't a "what's you opinion on software" channel07:35
harrisyES07:35
harriskonquerorrrr error07:35
greegno oppinion.  the shit crashes.07:35
greegthats a fact.07:35
Dr_willisAnyone else noticed that the more  Opinion someone has -  they often have less actual 'knowledge' ?07:37
harrisCAN i use visual studio here? or program visual basic.net?07:37
bwpSo, ever since I upgraded to 8.04, Kaffeine is unable to play videos off a samba share07:37
bwpsays:  16:37:32: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL07:37
harrisim installing NET beans right now hope its okay07:37
bwpwas working before the upgrade07:38
osirishas anyone else had problems with flash not having sound in hardy ?07:38
bwpany ideas anyone?07:38
befhi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except07:38
befmy speeds are absolutely shit07:38
Dr_willisbwp, How are you accessing the share?  you might want to mount the share to a directory, then anything should be able to play them07:38
befand my connection is really unstable07:38
stdinbef: watch the language in here please07:38
befit was never like this with ubuntu, im wondering why this is happening?07:38
bwpDr_willis: yeah, it works if I do that (of course). I was just wondering if there's a reason why it stopped working07:39
bwpi'm opening the file direction from a smb:// url in Dolphin07:39
bwpdirectly *07:39
stdinbef: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the GUI and set of default applications, the core is the same so the speed can't be anything to do with KDE but the core07:40
befdo you have any advice on how i can fix it?07:40
The_ManU_212i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/07:40
stdinbef: wifi isn't really my area, but what network card/driver are you using?07:40
befim using a belkin wireless (Ralink)07:41
Dr_willisbwp,  ive gotten where i use gmplayer as my main player. and fusesmb to access samba shares. ;) i rarely play things over the smb:// stuff07:41
befand im using the default native linux driver07:42
befi'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year)07:42
draikbef: You have a PCI Wireless video card???07:42
befwhat?07:42
stdindraik: huh?07:42
befdid i ever say video card?07:42
ErtainHello everyone.  When I upgraded to Heady Hebron my system stopped booting properly.  It will load the necessary stuff, but it won't go into KDE.07:43
befoh maybe i did07:43
bef(if so i'm just retarded)07:43
befbut not what i meant to say :P07:43
draikstdin: bef: ..." my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except"07:43
beflol07:43
befyeah, my bad07:43
stdinyeah, but you need to discard words that don't fit07:43
draikI wasn't sure which one07:43
stdinI guess I do it unconsciously now :p07:43
ErtainI tried looking into the logs but they have stopped right before I upgraded my system.07:43
ErtainCould the logs be in a different place?07:44
draikPCI wireless or PCI VC07:44
befpci wireless07:44
bwpErtain: it isn't trying to load KDE4 is it? The compositing in KDE4 caused some weird problems for me for a while07:44
hydrogenwireless video... mmm :)07:44
bef(i did say belkin wireless ralink) which would be fairly obvious :P07:44
chrisrogershey dwidmann07:45
Ertainbwp: I don't know if it is trying to start KDE4.07:45
Ertainbwp: But I'll try uninstalling my KDE4 stuff.07:45
bwpErtain: do you get to a login prompt? Can you choose the "session type" from the list?07:45
befdraik, can you help?07:46
befwlan007:46
Ertainbwp: I don't even get into the login prompt.07:46
bwpnot KDE4's fault then :)07:46
draikbef: Sorry, I'm still in Gutsy07:47
beffor some reason its running at like 5Kbs, and i'm on a 1500kbs connection07:47
befwhich is utterly rediculous07:47
ErtainFigures. :-/07:47
Ertainbwp: okay, could it be the login thingy?07:48
bwpdoes X start?07:49
Ertainbwp: I don't know.  I do have xinit installed, along with startx (and Kubuntu-desktop), but apparently it doesn't start.07:50
ErtainI do have all of the right Xserver and X11 stuff, afaik.07:52
bwpso what happens when you try to start KDE?07:52
iqoni can't get amarok to retrieve ipod play counts in 8.0407:53
ErtainHere's what happens: my regular bootsplash is loading, and then it tries to go start X and... It doesn't start.07:54
ForgeAusis anything linux an industry standard? I mean Windows doesn't recognise EXT3 partitions by default, wouldn't it make sense to make EXT3 an industry standard of some kind?07:55
Dr_willisForgeAus,  MS  dosent want to.. so  they dont.,07:56
ForgeAusI mean windows' diskpart is ok for a basic ntfs partitioner but thats about all it can do07:56
fdovingForgeAus: microsoft and windows does not want to cooperate with anything linux. that's the only reason it doesn't read it by default, it's not that it's hard to read it in any way.07:56
Dr_willisWhy not ask why Windows dosent have NFS by default. :) or  other more common things also.07:56
bwpErtain: looks like the upgrade to the new version of X broke your install somehow07:56
befsomebody please help me fix my connection please07:56
bwpX is pretty nasty when it doesn't work07:56
ForgeAusNFS is easy enough with SFU/SUA if you have a windows with those extras07:57
ErtainIn my /var/log/dmesg file it gets up to ip_tables and then it stops.  Btw, I'm on a wireless connection.07:57
Dr_willisForgeAus,  ext2 support in windows works 'ok' :) with a few tools as well.. but not 100%07:57
ForgeAusyeah I have an ext2ifs driver07:58
bwpext2ifs is pretty flaky in my experience07:58
ForgeAusbut thats not what I meant... it doesn't give diskpart or ntldr the ability to recognise ext2/3 partitions does it?07:58
Ertainbwp: Just in case what would you suggest I do to fix "X"?07:58
ForgeAusreally I've had no problem with it at all bwp...07:58
ForgeAus(sofar anyhow)07:59
ForgeAusmaybe its one of them "works for me" thingies07:59
bwpErtain: if you know your way around the commandline, make a backup of your existing xorg.conf file and try running the autoprobe thingy07:59
ErtainOkay.07:59
bwpXorg -configure07:59
bwpsee what it comes up with07:59
fdoving!xconf08:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:00
fdoving!xconfig08:00
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes08:00
bwpoooh, fanciness08:00
The_ManU_212i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/ who can help?08:00
dwidmannhi chris ... sorry but I probaly won't be around for another .... 12 hour or so, ltime for me to leave for work soon08:00
spigiboyhello valaki beszel magyarul?08:01
Lynourespigiboy: there could be #kubuntu-hu08:02
Lynoure!hu08:02
ubotuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál08:02
spigiboythx :D08:02
rayk_sland glx problem with hardy heron and intel chipset   (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)08:06
SilentDishello08:07
SilentDisi just replaced a CD burner with a CD/DVD+-RW burner.  Bios sees it fine (even allows to boot off a CD), but as soon as I'm up and running in 8.04, it fails to work.  I assume there's gonna be an error somewhere in a log, where would i start looking?08:08
rayk_slandSilentDis: dmesg might tell you something08:08
SilentDisrayk_sland: ugh, yep.  let me pastebin this one, getting it over and over apparently...08:09
SilentDisrayk_sland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8319/08:09
SilentDisrayk_sland: ever seen anything like that?08:10
SilentDisaargh, looks like known issue and nothing to solve it so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/16065608:13
rayk_slandSilentDis  googlesearch leads me to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/16065608:13
SilentDislol08:13
SilentDisis there a way to kill all use of that device?08:14
SilentDishm.  on the off chance i didn't set the jumper right, gonna shut down and check that just to be extra sure.  be back in a bit08:16
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befhi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?08:24
The_ManU_212how to enable 3d acceleration?08:26
INIT_6can we ask ? about wine and the new kubuntu? or is there another channel for that?08:27
INIT_6The_ManU_212: do you have a nvidia card?08:27
befhi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?08:28
The_ManU_212INIT_6: yes 6600gt08:28
INIT_6do you have 7.10 or 8.04?08:29
MrBogushello08:29
MrBogusi'm new here08:30
INIT_6The_ManU_212: so you running 7.10 or the new 8.04 so I can give you the right steps?08:30
crhi roomies...the font configuration in my kcontrol disappeared...had been replaced by the 'welcome to kde control center'...anyone know how to fix this..thanks08:30
INIT_6Hello, MrBogus08:30
MrBogusjust wanted to ask if were can I get an installer for kubuntu08:31
Dr_willisthe instgall cd's instgall ubuntu/kubuntu normally.08:32
Dr_willisUnless you want to use the 'wubi' installer.08:32
The_ManU_212INIT_6: 8.04 kde 3, installed nvidia-glx-new, but didnt helped and xorg.conf has only generic entries and no "nvidia" mentioned somewhere08:32
MrBogusmy problem is I have no cd for kubuntu08:32
MrBogus=)08:32
Dr_willisHmmm go download one?08:33
MrBoguscan i?08:33
the-ermAny upgrade issues?08:33
the-ermI guess I should ask has anyone had any issues upgrading?08:34
INIT_6I did but that was a user error08:34
Dr_willisMrBogus,  err.. of course... kubuntu is not some app you install under windows.. (normally) :)   You download the iso. burn it to cd..reboot, install from cd08:34
JoshOvkithe-erm: i had a problem upgrading, but thats because my system froze08:34
JoshOvkiDr_willis: if he installed using wubi  then it could be simular to his point of view08:35
the-ermJoshOvki: don't scare me like that...08:36
Dr_willisJoshOvki,  i aint even TOUCHING or suggesting Wubi.. ever.. :)08:36
JoshOvkilol08:36
the-ermI'm adept_upgrade is running now.08:36
MrBoguscould someone provide a download link for kubuntu?08:36
MrBogusthanks for the answers08:36
MrBogus:)08:36
Dr_willisMrBogus,  try kubuntu.org ? check the topic of the channel?08:36
JoshOvkithe-erm: i think it was just my system, loads of people have upgraded with no issues08:37
Dr_willisThere are torrents for the new release out now also. that may be the fastet way to get a .iso image.08:37
Dr_willis.04 Released! http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release08:37
MrBogusokay. i'll try to download.08:37
INIT_6*bumb* where is the best place to get help for wine and the new 8.04 here or a different channel?08:38
the-ermLast time I think I had some bad repositories, and ended up re-installing, instead of upgrading.08:38
arunkalehello08:38
MrBogusis it also possible for me to have a dual boot?08:39
MrBoguse.g ubuntu / windows?08:39
Dr_willisMrBogus,  of course.08:39
arunkalehow do i copy a directory to another directory? i tried cp, but it says 'Name' is a directory (not copied)08:39
MrBogusthanks08:39
Dr_willisarunkale,  you proverly want to use the -r for recursive option to cp.08:39
the-ermMrBogus: backup everything.08:39
Dr_willisor was it -R... i forget. :)08:39
MrBogusyeah08:39
the-ermWell ... the important data then :)08:39
INIT_6-R08:40
Dr_willisI tend to use 'mc' way too much :)08:40
arunkaleThanks, Dr_willis, cp -R seems to be doing the trick08:40
arunkaleDr_willis: what does mc do08:40
Dr_willis!info mc08:40
ubotumc (source: mc): midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2059 kB, installed size 5944 kB08:40
Dr_willistext based 2 pane file manager.08:40
Dr_willis:)08:40
Dr_willisa MUST get. :008:41
arunkalecool08:41
arunkaleis it possible to get some sort of progress bar or something in the terminal while copying large directories?08:41
Dr_willisarunkale,  ive seen various 'progress bar' copy scripts  here and there..08:42
Dr_willismc gives you a nice progress bar. :)08:42
svuis it true that kubuntu requires manual editing of /etc/network/interfaces - for wireless interfaces? KNetworkManager cannot enable wifi :(08:42
Dr_willissvu,  for my laptop i did not have to edit anything manually08:42
MrBogusis there any forums for kubuntu?08:43
Dr_willisMrBogus,  the kubuntu homepage has links to them.. and other documention08:43
Dr_willis!forums08:43
svuDr_willis: in KNM I tried "enable wireless" - but it did not change anything. What did you do on your laptop?08:43
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.08:43
MrBogusthanks08:43
Lynouresvu: I originally needed to comment out my wlan card for /etc/network/interfaces, aften that haven't needed to edit a thing related to it08:43
the-ermEverything in my house is wired but the wii.08:44
Dr_willisFor my laptop - i installed the broadcom package. and  clicked on some gizmo and entered my ssid and password.. and that was about it..  I was amazed that it worked. :)08:44
Dr_willisthe-erm,  :) the one gizmo with built in wireless is wired. :)  same as my wii!08:44
svuDr_willis: I expected the same. And it did not even add it to /etc/network/interfaces08:45
INIT_6mc08:45
svuI seen eth1 in ifconfig output08:45
INIT_6srry wrong window08:45
MrBogusi chose 8.0408:46
MrBogusshould i download everything?08:46
LynoureMrBogus: everything is a bit too much. Are you doing a fresh install, upgrade or what?08:47
the-ermI think he's doing a fresh install.08:47
Dr_willisMrBogus,  you download the .iso image file for the specific disrto/variant you want08:47
Dr_willisYou then properly burn the iso file (as an IMAGE) to a blank cd. :)08:48
MrBogusLynoure: I'm doing a fresh install08:48
LynoureMrBogus: Dr_willis's advice is all good, then :)08:48
MrBogusThanks to you both08:49
MrBogus:)08:49
MrBogusi have started to download now.08:49
the-erm< I repeat make sure you back up >08:49
MrBogusyeah. thanks for the warn.08:49
Dr_willismost likely you want the file            http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso08:50
the-ermIf you want to dual boot you should make sure you have a copy of the xp disk.  Windows will freak when it notices the partition is a different size.08:50
Dr_willisdepending on which mirror you selected08:50
Dr_willisthe-erm,  ive never noticed it freaking. :)08:50
The_ManU_212INIT_6: cant you help me?08:50
the-ermI hate windows for that.  Put in a new drive ... and it won't boot without a disk.08:51
MrBogusthen i will make a bootable disk? or just make a datadisk?08:51
the-ermIt happened to me.08:51
INIT_6Sorry, I don't know that mush about it.08:51
INIT_6You don't have any weired setup do you. like going through a KVM switch. I know that mess me up.08:52
LynoureMrBogus: if you burn the .iso, it will be bootable.08:52
MrBogusok. then i will just choose data cd for burning08:52
INIT_6The_ManU_212: I know I like to install the nvida x server settings to help me tweak with the configuration not sure how other people feel about that software but I likeit.08:53
LynoureMrBogus: don't worry too much about which to choose (kde3 or kde4), as you can install the other to be on the side when you are done, if you wish08:53
MrBogusokay, I have already windows on my system (drive c:), my drive d: is empty. can I install ubuntu without distorbing windows on drive c:08:54
MrBogus?08:54
Dr_willisMrBogus,  you do NOT make a 'data' disk - you use a tool that burns the .iso as an image.. such as burnatonce, or nero, or other tools.08:55
Dr_willisMrBogus,  You can delete the D: parittion and instgall linux in the unallocated space. Is one way08:55
MrBogusbut windows will not be altered if i do so?08:55
Dr_willisIf you have nothing on D: then  it should ent be.08:55
MrBogusthanks08:56
Dr_willisYou can play with the LiveCD and toy withlinux all you want without installing also.08:56
MrBoguswhat file is it?08:56
MrBoguswhat file is it for LiveCD?08:56
Dr_williswhat file is what?08:56
Dr_willisThe desktop cd is a live cd.08:57
Dr_willisYou boot it. get a nice linux desktop, with an Install icon you can use if you want.08:57
MrBoguscan I also download a Desktop cd?08:59
MrBogusi'm in 10% of my download now. lol09:00
LynoureMrBogus: live cd is the cd you install the desktop from, too09:00
MrBogusokay. that clears me.09:01
MrBogus:)09:01
harris_i cannot evven install a flash player from my CD09:02
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crazy_busI installed ogg convert on 8.04 but it seems to be broken.  It can't open a svg with gtk.  Should I install something to make it work?09:15
crazy_busnm.  I found the correct thing.09:20
rydanany idea how to make widgets sticky on the desktop?09:22
rydanor, rather, dock them?09:23
harris_hey how can i watch video streaming09:32
warren_euhm, doesn't it work? :D09:32
Dr_willisharris_,  mplayer, and vlc can play many streams09:33
warren_kaffeine does too i think09:33
harris_i cant watch video from youtube09:33
warren_and as it is installed by default09:34
warren_that's flash09:34
warren_install flashplugin-nonfree09:34
harris_okay i can't even install flash09:34
warren_or to install everything to read multimedia: install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:34
warren_harris_ : with adept!09:34
obadiah_I'm trying to install the Oxford English Dictionary under wine. This is a two CD install. When it gets to the second CD it is unable to recognize the file. Is there any way around this?09:34
MrBogusany good tutorial for installing kubuntu?09:35
warren_euhm, maybe your cd has some problem09:35
harris_im really having NOSEBLEED with this linux....... HARD TIME but FUN09:35
warren_harris_ : don't you understand?, it's quite simple09:35
Dr_williswhats so hard? :)09:35
warren_harris_ : open adept and install kubuntu-restricted-eextras09:36
Dr_williscompared to the song and dance ive had to do with windows this week... I will take linux09:36
harris_hardddddd....... running application....09:36
warren_well can't you use a mouse? :)09:36
warren_harris_: open "adept" (in system) and install this: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"09:37
Dr_willissudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:37
warren_restart your desktop and everything should work09:37
harris_okayyyyy mr warren09:37
harris_i can't open an .exe file09:37
warren_no problem09:37
harris_thats the problem I have installer09:37
Dr_willisharris_,  where did you even GET a .exe from?09:37
warren_that's a windows program then09:37
Dr_willisharris_,  linux is not windows. :)  is the core of the issue...09:38
harris_most of my cd have .exe file09:38
harris_OKAY09:38
warren_well this is for windows users to test09:38
Dr_williswhat exe is this anyway?09:38
warren_firefox? ;)09:38
harris_an exe file a flashplayer installer09:38
warren_there are some windows programs on the cd to test on windows09:38
harris_firefox09:38
warren_ah ok09:38
warren_no09:38
Dr_willisharris_,  thats 100% the wrong way to install flash under ubuntu.09:38
warren_install like i said above09:38
harris_HOW09:39
warren_with adept09:39
warren_System -> Ademt09:39
warren_Adept*09:39
harris_okay09:39
Dr_willisto install flash i normally use the command ----------->    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:39
warren_and install flashplugin-nonfree09:39
warren_well commands aren't recommended for new users09:39
Dr_willisor use the gui tool like  warren_  is suggesting. It does basicially the same thing.09:39
warren_yes09:39
harris_in konsole mr willis09:39
warren_use adept it's easier09:40
harris_okay ill go to console09:40
Dr_willisits much faster to just cut/paste a command .. then to handhold/walk through a GUI series of menus. :)09:40
warren_why making it difficult?09:40
Dr_willisassuming he has the repos set up.. this is..  heh.09:40
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warren_well normally they are set up during install, hope they are ;)09:40
thumper!scim-bridge09:40
Dr_willisi wonder if the flash factoids have been updated.09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about scim-bridge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:40
Dr_willis!flash09:40
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash09:40
Dr_willisThat url  should also guide one through installing flash properly09:40
harris_harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:41
harris_Password:09:41
harris_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavai                  able)09:41
harris_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pro                  ess using it?09:41
harris_harris@harris-desktop:~$09:41
Dr_willisharris_,  you can have only 1 'package manager' type tool open at a time.09:41
Dr_williseither use adept, and install the packages, or close adept and use the command line.09:42
harris_harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:42
harris_Reading package lists... Done09:42
harris_Building dependency tree09:42
harris_Reading state information... Done09:42
harris_E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras09:42
harris_harris@harris-desktop:~$09:42
Dr_willis!info kubuntu-restricted-extras09:42
ubotukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 15 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB09:42
fablegood morning to all09:43
Dr_willisthe 'multiverse' repository may not be enabled by default.     - some where in the 'adept' tool one can click a box to enable it. - you will then need to 'reload' the reposiutory listings, and then isntall the packages.09:43
Dr_willisI was thinkign the 'add/remove programs' icon opened a simpiler program that also allowed you to easially enable the extra repos and install things.09:44
harris_WHHHHHEEWW I GET IT09:50
Dr_willisNow type in words.. the actions you took... :)09:50
Dr_willisheh heh..09:50
harris_CAN SOmeone tell me what is ADEPT MANAGER09:50
Dr_willisharris_,  a front end to the apt packaing system.09:50
Dr_willistheres many front ends to the apt system.09:50
harris_so what is it09:50
harris_what's its purpose?09:51
Dr_willisit lets you install things?09:51
claudy^^09:51
harris_hehehhehehehehehheheh I just type firefox then boomm!!09:51
claudy:309:51
Dr_willisand do other tasks..  what sort of answer ya want.. its a tool that  is a front end.. those are common on linux systems09:51
Dr_willisthers at least 3 (or more) other different front ends to the packing system.09:52
harris_THIS IS FUN!!!09:52
MrBogushaha09:52
Dr_willis!adept | harris_09:52
ubotuharris_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:52
harris_HEY HEY can someone tell me what programming language should I study?09:52
Dr_willisharris_,  ALL of them.09:52
claudyis there a way to revert to the kde3 style menu on kde4?, it bugs me out completely :<09:52
Dr_willisclaudy,  not that i am aware of.09:52
claudy:/09:52
harris_hehehehhee Im a vb.net FAN09:52
harris_so  i think09:52
Dr_willisI recall a applet for a more normal menu. but not a kde3 menu09:52
harris_i cant do09:53
Dr_willis!info gambas09:53
harris_programming VB.net here09:53
ubotuPackage gambas does not exist in hardy09:53
claudyhmmrrr09:53
kristian__bye09:53
Dr_willisYou might want to learn a slightly better language.  then VB.net09:53
Dr_willis:)09:53
MrBogusharris_: you learn c/c++09:53
harris_i know c but c++ not yet09:54
Dr_willislearn a language, move up/on to others.. the more you learn - the easier it gets to learn others.09:54
harris_i want some windows application programming09:54
ubuntu__#kubuntu-de09:54
Dr_willisPython is handy to learn.09:54
MrBogusPerl09:54
harris_hehehehehhehehehe Phyton can i program windows app with Phyton09:54
Dr_willisPerl is good also. :)09:54
Dr_willisharris_,  same with perl, ruby, and many other languages also.09:55
Dr_willisMost all the languages have gui extensions/features.09:55
Dr_willisharris_,  or you write a 'frontend' to the  app  if its command line only   :)  thers that word again!09:55
MrBogusharris_: it depends on your interest and what are you wanted to do.09:56
harris_windows application09:56
Dr_willisharris_,  how... vague09:56
Dr_willisYou mean apps with  'gui's' ?09:56
harris_YUPPPP09:56
Dr_willisthats only slightly less vague. :)09:57
rydanany idea how to make widgets dock on the desktop?09:58
MrBogusharris_: start reading a book. lol09:58
Dr_willisTheres several 'widget' systems out. karamba, desklets,  kde4 has its own system.09:58
harris_okayyyyyyyyyy windows application - GUI - simple programs lyk games09:59
Dr_willisand proberly a dozen more i cant rember.09:59
Dr_willisharris_,  i would say start learning some python, it can do games.09:59
rydanI need to be more specific.  The built in widget function in kde4.  can these be docked?09:59
harris_really!09:59
Dr_willisrydan,  heh.. I dont know that much about kde4 - its a work in progress.09:59
harris_okay enough of vb.net for now09:59
Dr_willis!info pysol10:00
ubotupysol (source: pysol): X11 solitaire game written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.82.1-4.1ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 6840 kB10:00
rydandr_willis: yeah, i can see.  i installed it today.10:00
harris_DR WILLIS u SURE A DOCTOR10:00
Dr_willis!info slune10:00
ubotuslune (source: slune): 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13-1 (hardy), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB10:00
Dr_willisI think slune is in python also...10:00
Dr_williswell python with a lot of extensions. :)10:02
befoh my god.10:03
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DanhopYo les kubunteros10:09
corbani'm having problems with sound10:16
corbanmy card is detected10:17
corbanbut i get no audio10:17
G1d4nhello10:19
G1d4ni'm having problems with wireless card10:19
G1d4nis there anyone?10:20
DanhopWho is using Kubuntu Hardy?10:21
Algyz!wireless | G1d4n10:21
ubotuG1d4n: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:21
DanhopIs there anybody on KDE 4?10:21
Danhopactually I have a little problem. Kmix doesn't launch by itself. How can I repair it?10:22
corbani found the fix for the sound problem10:22
corbanreinstall?10:22
corbanmaybe10:22
Danhopno itsn't a sound problem10:23
Danhopthe sound works perfectly10:23
Danhopthe problem is Kmix, I am fed up of running it at each start up of my computer.10:23
Dr_willisput it in the Autostart dir perhaps.10:26
Dr_willisor launch it. and save the session10:26
Danhopwhere do I find the Autostart directory?10:26
Dr_willisIts in .kde i belive10:27
Dr_willis!autostart10:27
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html10:27
DanhopA link like with the command ln ?10:34
Dr_willisthats one way10:36
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harris_DOCTOR WILLIS THANKS YOU AGAIN10:44
harris_GTG10:44
Dr_willis!info libglade2-ruby10:46
ubotulibglade2-ruby (source: ruby-gnome2): Libglade 2 bindings for the Ruby language. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.16.0-10 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB10:46
corbansound stopped working...i have Intel HDA Audio10:59
corbani have followed the fix that was on ubuntu forums or wiki and it didn't work11:00
corbanoh wait it was a different site11:00
corbananybody11:06
Algyz!sound | corban11:07
ubotucorban: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:07
corbanyeh it's started11:08
corbani shut it down and i'm restarting it now11:09
corbanhmm i seems like it keeps restarting11:09
budgieboyHi need help11:10
AlgyzLots of people need ;)11:10
budgieboyCould not open cache - Adept Manager11:10
Algyz!help | budgieboy11:10
ubotubudgieboy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:10
giacomohi..i'm a newbiees and i can't go in internet without windows pc...11:11
budgieboywhat do I do?11:11
giacomosomebody can tell me where is build essential that i hae to install??11:11
giacomoin italian is better11:11
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Algyzgiacomo:  what kind of internet?11:12
giacomoadsl11:12
giacomoi've trust md 3100 modem11:12
Algyzgiacomo:  type: $sudo pppoeconf11:12
giacomoi've seen the connexant istruction but it give me errore11:12
Algyzgiacomo:  are you connecting through lan?11:12
giacomoi'm conneting with lan with my window portable pc11:13
Algyztry this pppoeconf,  hope it'll work11:13
budgieboyhelp?11:15
budgieboy!help11:15
budgieboyhep11:15
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots11:15
giacomoi will try...but i havte to disconnect my portable pc to see if it work11:15
giacomo_i have this modem to connect to my linux pc...11:19
giacomo_now this modem is connected to windows pc and than with lan to my lniux pc..11:19
giacomo_how i can connect it directly??11:19
giacomo_i hve follow this guide http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/DigicomMichelangeloUsbCx?highlight=%28michelangelo%2911:20
giacomo_but it gie me error11:20
giacomo_but it say that i've to istall build-essential...11:21
giacomo_but i don' find it11:21
giacomo_PLEASE HELP ME11:21
Dr_willisthe package name is 'build-essential' and you can install it with the package manager tools11:24
Dr_willis!info build-essential11:24
ubotubuild-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB11:24
markio_ciao a tutti...info veloce...sono connesso con un telefonino, xò nn mi fa navigare  sul browser ...invece scaricare aggiornamenti o anke venire qui in irc si...ki m svela l'arcano !?11:24
Dr_willis'sudo apt-get install build-essential' should install the package for you.11:24
Signilhi I cant install a .deb file I used sudo dpkg -i name of file but its not working and I am in the right directory11:25
Signil cannot access archive: No such file or directory11:25
SignilErrors were encountered while processing:11:25
Dr_willisi would verify the spelling of the name. Use tab completion to be sure you get it right.11:26
giacomo_i'm isatlling build essential i'm prayng for good11:27
Signiltx11:28
wesley__i wannahave pure kde how can i remove all gnome packages?11:29
Dr_willis!purekde11:30
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »11:30
Dr_willisGood luck with that.. :)11:30
SignilI am trying to get my cam to work.. so far this is where I have got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68573111:31
wesley__Dr_willis: doesnt work get error at the end ( running 8.0411:32
Signilit has been metioned there I have to edit sum config.xml file but I cant find it :s11:32
mikael_hey, is there any text editor for KDE that has inline/auto spell check?11:35
Signilits ok I found it :D11:36
Dr_williswesley__,  what dosent work?11:36
wesley__its for 7.10 and at end i get error can not find hal-device-manager11:37
wesley__i use 8.0411:38
Dr_williswesley__,   whats 'its' ? I dont rember your original problem.11:40
wesley__removing ubuntu-desktop complety thats my problem i cant get ie removed11:40
Dr_willisubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package. If you want to remove all gnome related packages. You may have to just fire up the package maanger, and search/remove  them manually11:43
ElVirolohi everyone :)11:44
Dr_willisHelloo.11:44
ElViroloi  have a strange problem with kde 3.5.9 (kubuntu hardy) : the icons on my destkop are actually the directories from / (/usr, /bin, /var, etc.) while my ~/Desktop directory contains completely different files (obviously) ... why is that ?11:44
Dr_willisElVirolo,  are /usr and /var on their own filesystem?11:44
ElViroloDr_willis: nope11:45
ElVirolothey're on /11:45
Dr_willisElVirolo,  and if you look in ~/Desktop they are not showing up in there?11:45
ElViroloDr_willis: no11:45
Dr_willisThat is weird.11:46
Dr_willisbut you can click in the /usr icon on the desktop and it goes to /usr?11:46
ElViroloI've been told on #kde that this is a kown kubuntu problem11:46
Dr_willisFirst ive ever heard of the problem11:46
ElViroloDr_willis: yes, it does. isn't that strange ?11:46
Signilok one soltuion for my cam to work on skype is by adding a few lines in the "video" section in the config.xml file but there isnt ant video section :s11:47
okvHi, all. I was doing version upgrade through Adept and it suddenly stoopped X  and I found myself in the console11:47
Dr_willisElVirolo,  very weird.. I would wonder if a  NEW user with new default settings would have the same problem11:47
ElViroloDr_willis: good idea, i'll try that a bit later11:48
ElVirolothanks anyway :)11:48
Signilcould sum1 show me where I shuld add these lines in the config file..since there isnt any video section :s11:49
codeRathi, I'm trying to install a file trough konsole. I get this error "/bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory". I checked the file with vim and there does not seem to be any strange finishing of the line11:49
Dr_williscodeRat,  you need to use an editor like fte, or others tht can show those control characters.11:49
Dr_williscodeRat,  ive had similer issues with gettting files from windows/notepad.exe. you could track down a dos2unix converter script. or some other cr/lf converter tool.11:50
Dr_williscodeRat, i would imagine that EVERY line in the file has that issue.11:50
codeRatDr_willis: does those converters work wtih binarfiles too?11:51
Dr_willisbinary files? err.. No.. that wouldent make sence.11:51
Dr_willisand most likely break the binary file badly11:52
mikehello everyone11:52
Dr_willis!info dos2linux11:53
ubotuPackage dos2linux does not exist in hardy11:53
Dr_willis!info dos2unix11:54
ubotuPackage dos2unix does not exist in hardy11:54
Dr_willisbummer..11:54
Dr_willissudo apt-get install tofrodos      - for those 2 commands. it seems, :)11:54
codeRatDr_willis: yeah I tried it right now. it doesn't work. When I tried to open this file in kate I got a warning that this file is a binary file :S12:00
Dr_williscodeRat,   where did this file come from?12:00
Dr_williskate may be saying its binary because of the extra characters in it12:00
Dr_willisif its truely a binary file.  I dont think it would begin eith #!/bin/sh12:01
kaizerhi12:01
codeRateven if I open it vim I see a lot of strange characters. There are some lines at the beginning of the file like #!/bin/sh..12:02
Dr_williscodeRat,  sounds to me like the file is totally messed up then.12:02
codeRatit's a file to install f-secure antivirus :S12:03
jussio1codeRat: definately binary...12:03
jussio1codeRat: why are you trying to install fsecure anyway?12:04
codeRatjussio1: no particular reason :)12:05
OsamaKHello. How to add more languages to my keyboard in kde?12:05
OsamaK Also, how to fix this problem <http://osamakm.googlepages.com/Toolbar.jpg> and restore a normal panel?12:05
kaizer¿Qué tal funciona la versión Hardy?12:05
blackflagHello all :)12:05
blackflagIm trying to setup a postfix-cluster with drbd an heartbeat12:06
codeRatmaybe becouse I'm used to have an AV on my PC (I'm on linux for about two weeks) :P12:06
blackflagdrbd is configured and now I want to use heartbeat with dopd12:06
blackflagbut Im not able to find dopd12:06
blackflagwhat should I do to make heartbeat working with dopd?12:07
wesley__someone knows how to enable cpufreq?12:08
wesley__on intel celeron 54012:08
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OsamaKok?12:09
OsamaKcould someone answer?12:10
LynoureOsamaK: in kde3?12:10
* Dr_willis has no idea on Languages.12:10
OsamaKkde412:10
Dr_willis!kde412:10
ubotuKDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde412:10
LynoureOsamaK: the panel looks normal...12:11
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OsamaKlinuxwizard: look at selected items at desktop12:11
Dr_willisI wonder when kde4 will have the 'move applets in the panel' feature12:11
OsamaKsorry12:11
OsamaKLynoure:12:11
Dr_willislooks like your appllets or whatever they are called are on the desktop. remove them and re-add them back to the panel.12:12
Dr_williswhat are they called now? Plasmids? plasmoids?12:12
Tom47the last couple of day dolphin has crashed with signal 11 SIGSEGV whenever i try to open my user home12:12
Tom47it quite happily opens other users home12:13
Tom47konqeror opens it ok12:13
Dr_williscan other users open the crashy home dir?12:14
DanhopDolphin sucks. I do not understand why they are working on it ...12:14
DanhopKonqueror is better12:14
Tom47Dr_willis: umm have not tried12:15
xanax`hello12:15
xanax`is there a "qt 4.4 rc1 .deb binary file" available ?12:16
xanax`I only find 4.3.412:17
LynoureDanhop: you can keep on using Konqueror, if you wish12:17
Dr_willisi alwys set up konquer as the default.12:18
LynoureDanhop: or even leave the KDE project your opinion on Dolphin... Here it does not unfortunately have much effect.12:18
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ElViroloi  have a strange problem with kde 3.5.9 (kubuntu hardy) : the icons on my destkop are actually the directories from / (/usr, /bin, /var, etc.) while my ~/Desktop directory contains completely different files (obviously) ... why is that ?12:19
Dr_willisElVirolo,  ya check the forums yet?  Does it affect other users as well?12:20
corbanfor some reason gcc won't compile source12:20
osmoHi, all! I just upgraded to 8.04 and I can't startx,12:20
ElViroloDr_willis: nope, doesn't affect other users12:20
Tom47Dr_willis: i will have to do that i think12:21
osmoIt says: fatal server error: no screens found12:21
osmoCould anyone help me, I'm trying to get it work before F1 starts so that I could watch the race12:21
osmoHow can I configure x?12:22
Dr_willisX and sound breakage - are way too common a problem it seems with upgrades. :(12:22
osmoIf anyone could tell me how can I configure X, apparently it thinks I have no "screens" (monitor?) and doesn't start..12:23
osmoAnd sinec I have no way to get to x, I can't browse to a website to look for a way to fix it12:23
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure SOMTHINGHERE   (i never can rember)12:23
corbanhelp when running ./configure for wine 0.9.60 it give me output "C compiler can't create executable files12:23
crimsunapt-get build-dep wine12:24
Dr_williscorban,  you did install the C compiler?12:24
Dr_willisbuild-essential package.12:24
jussio1sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:25
osmothanks I'll try that, hopefully It'll help12:25
corbanof course it;s gcc a system file12:25
Dr_willisnormally when someone comes in here and says 'C compiler can't create executable files' they dont have 'build-essential' installed12:26
corbanapt-get version of wine is old12:28
Dr_willisThere is a more current wine unofficial repository.12:29
corbanwhich is?12:30
corbani'll look12:30
Dr_willis!wine12:31
ubotuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.12:31
crazy_bushas font rendering changed in 8.04's openoffice and kde. As I don't remember font being this jagged: http://imagebin.org/1711712:33
halcyonCorsairwhere should i ask about nvidia kubuntu issues?12:34
jussio1crazy_bus: have you got anti aliasing on?12:36
blackflag!heartbeat12:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about heartbeat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi12:36
crazy_busjussi1 do you turn it on in openoffice, or system settings?12:40
jussio1!tab | crazy_bus12:41
ubotucrazy_bus: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.12:41
jussio1crazy_bus: in system settings12:41
crazy_bussorry about getting your username wrong.  Since konversation wasn't in the default install, I've being using chatzilla which has a few tab problems12:42
crazy_busjussio1: I turned it on from system setting to enabled and it didn't change the look in openoffice12:44
jussio1:/12:44
crazy_busjussio1: do you have smooth letters in OOo?12:46
jussio1crazy_bus: yes12:47
crazy_busjussio1: and that's using kde4?12:50
jussio1correct12:50
jussio1crazy_bus: are you on kde4?12:50
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crazy_busjussio1: yes12:51
jussio1crazy_bus: hrm, do you have kde 3 installed? (kde 4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 btw)12:52
okvHi, all12:53
crazy_busjussio1: I don't have kde 3 installed.  I asked in the other channel a little while ago and got no response12:53
okvI just upgraded to 8.04 but my screen is refreshing very very slowly12:53
okvIt takes about 15 seconds just to scroll down some website because it shows about 1 frame per second12:54
okvAny idea what's causing it? display drivers? Any quick fix? I'd like to watch F1 but there's no point to watch it when I get only 1 frame per second12:54
okvEven when I alt-tab it loads the window with content very slowly from up to down12:55
okv2-3 seconds to load the content12:56
okvOr is 8.04 just eating so much more resources that my PC can't keep up anymore?12:56
szymonhi, I have a problem with logout from kde (the server crashes), I have no time for repairs, will this script for cron work http://paste.ubuntu.com/8343/ ?12:59
mischelhi12:59
mischelhow i do to install firefox?13:00
okvmischel: sudo apt-get install firefox13:00
mischeldo you speak german?:-)13:00
okvNo.13:02
jussio1!de | mischel13:05
ubotumischel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:05
andy_any one any good with nfs? i have it installed and files shared on my mythbuntu machine i am now on my ubuntu machine how to i find the shares?13:07
rohanwhenever i try to play a file using mplayer, i get this message - AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused13:10
rohanafter that it uses the AO [alsa] and play back works13:10
rohanis this a known problem, expected to happen?13:10
andy_try #mplayer13:11
rohanandy_: i don't think it's a mplayer problem13:11
SSJ_GZRiddell: Might want to delete this Dot comment: http://dot.kde.org/1209137864/1209298279/13:16
SignilI am having this problem http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/linux-uvc-devel/2007-August/001929.html13:18
Signilpls help13:18
rohananyone noticed that in kubuntu 8.04 firefox, i can't directly click on a pdf file and have it open with kpdf. same for other associations. how do i remeedy the problem?13:19
giacomoc'è qualche italiano??13:22
Lynoure!it | giacomo13:22
ubotugiacomo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!13:22
jussio1!it | giacomo13:22
jussio1hehe13:22
giacomo!it13:22
LynoureSignil: I don't know anything about Bison webcams, sorry13:22
giacomoand where i find ubuntu.it??13:22
giacomoah understood13:23
giacomoit's ok13:23
jussio1:)13:23
Dr_willisrohan,  set mplayer to use alsa by default in the configs. Not the pulse audio stuff. (i think)13:24
rohanDr_willis: that worked, thanks13:27
rohanDr_willis: any idea on how to repair the firefox associations thing?13:28
rohanit worked nice in 7.1013:28
rohane.g. clicking on a pdf file anywhere gave me the option to open it in "KPDF", but not anymore13:29
Dr_willisI always just use the  some extensions for firefox to auto download pdf's13:30
rohanah ok13:30
harrisHEELLLLLLLLOOOO13:32
Dr_willis!hi13:32
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!13:32
harriswhat compiler should I download, when I want to learn PyThon... (wit GUI)13:33
rohanharris: python "interpreter" is already installed on kubuntu13:33
Dr_willisPython is not a compiled language.13:34
Dr_willis:)13:34
rohanabout gui, do you mean an IDE, or a gui toolkit for python programming language itself?13:34
harrisYES13:34
anabainwhy can't I upgrade my kubuntu hardy? It's two days since there is no upgrade available13:34
xinbaoidle with the python is good13:34
Dr_willisits best to get a book/doc/guide and start typing in some pyton examples.13:34
harriswhattttttttt Python is not a compiled langauge?13:34
Dr_willisharris,  we said ITS NOT A COMPILED language.13:34
Dr_willis:)13:34
harrisokay DOkTor13:35
Dr_willispython-doc - Documentation for the high-level object-oriented language Python13:35
Dr_willispython-kde3-doc - Documentation and examples for PyKDE13:36
harrisokay I want to make some simple GUI application using Python13:36
xinbaojust like c/c++ is complied  and  javascript is non-complied13:36
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Dr_willisi would start with making some simple non-gui applications first. :)13:37
harrisof course...........13:37
Dr_willislike  helloworld :)13:38
harrissoooooo what program shuld i look for?13:38
harrisprintf13:38
harrisheeeeehehhehe13:38
harrispython-kde3-doc13:38
harris????????13:38
veyronharris: you need a texteditor, like kate13:39
Dr_williswhat program? I would get the various doc packages, and google for a few tutorials. perhaps html books/pdf books on pytohn13:39
jussio1!info diveintopython13:39
ubotudiveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB13:39
xinbaopython is good , very pop language,,13:39
xinbaowxpython can do some simple gui,and it easy to use13:40
Dr_willispython-wxglade - GUI designer written in Python with wxPython13:41
Lynourethen there is also #python13:42
harrisokay, il download it later.... first i download diveintopython13:42
Dr_willisof course they will say to get some books and start reading. :)13:43
veyronharris: type "def hello_world(): nl print "Hello World" nlhello_world() " where nl is 'newline' and save it as hello.py13:43
harrissoooooooooooooo here it is already installed13:43
harrisYET13:43
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Dr_willispython is included with the normal ubuntu install. Its used by a lot of system scripts and tools13:43
harrisi can't see it13:43
veyronthen click on 'terminal' and type: python ./hello.py13:43
Dr_williscant see what?13:44
harrishelppp me i cant see the program i just downladed namely (diveintopython)13:44
xinbaojust type 'python' in cmdline ,you will see >>>  that is python haha :)13:45
Lynoureveyron: forgot the indentiations... so that one just errors13:45
harriswait XINBAO where is the  of that python blah blah13:45
Dr_willishttp://docs.python.org/download.html13:46
harrisYEAAHHHH13:46
Dr_willistime to learn some linux basics i think. befor you dive into anything..13:47
xinbaoharryis:you mean /usr/bin/python ?13:48
harrisi mean the FOLDER of python13:49
veyrontry locate python in cmd;-)13:49
harrisyahhhhhhhhh i located it13:50
Dr_willishttp://www.pyweek.org/ - lots of littel python games13:50
harrisits my first HELLO WORLD and error13:50
harrisIndentationError: expected an indented block13:50
harris>>> def hello_world(): nl print "Hello WOrld" nlhello_world()13:51
harris  File "<stdin>", line 113:51
harris    def hello_world(): nl print "Hello WOrld" nlhello_world()13:51
harris                              ^13:51
harrisSyntaxError: invalid syntax13:51
harris>>>13:51
veyron;-)13:51
harrishahahahahahha13:51
BluesKajhiyas all13:51
harriswait wait how can i join the #python13:51
veyronreplace nl by a hit of the return key13:51
harriswhen im joining its said that =>[Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel13:51
Dr_willisYou are supposed to use a new line... not a 'nl'13:52
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harrisI'm Going CRAZY with this LINUX THING!!!!! I LYK ITTT13:52
veyronI didn't want to flood the room, so I wrote all in one line;-)13:52
Lynoureharris: you can also join #python which is the channel for python (unsurpringly) :)13:52
* Dr_willis sedated harris for the good of the channel.13:53
harristhats the promblem I cant Join the channel13:53
Lynoureharris: what happens if you try? and which irc client?13:53
harris[Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel13:54
veyronsearch the net for: python Hello World or s.th. like helloworld.py13:54
harrisTHAT WHAT's HAppENsss13:54
Dragnslcr!register | harris13:54
ubotuharris: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.13:54
Dr_willisdo like it says and make a nick and identify..13:55
xinbaoharris: i alsa get the info 'You need to be identified to join that channel' but i think reading better than asking for the beginner,because many problems had answered in book13:57
harrisok ok ok13:57
Dr_willishttp://funnyboat.sourceforge.net/download.php13:57
Dr_willisfun little python shooter game :)13:57
harrisIM GOING CRAZY FUN2x13:59
harrisTRIPLE THE FUN....................... i am TOTALLY NEW to this Enviroment13:59
emilsedghThere are some cool new games coming for 4.1 guys.i think about 5 or 6 games.13:59
jussio1!caps | HanzZ14:01
ubotuHanzZ: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.14:01
jussio1!caps | harris14:01
ubotuharris: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.14:01
Dr_willis:)14:01
jussio1sorry HanzZ14:01
HanzZ?14:01
HanzZok14:01
Dr_willisheh - HanzZ  hadent said anything in... err.. ages. :)14:01
HanzZi'm just idling here14:02
harrisokkkkkk mr ubotu I'm just excited.....  hey got some questions.... when I download in adept Manager where does it go?14:02
Dr_willisharris,  you 'install' with adept manager. the packages get installed.  the .deb files get cached in /var/cache/apt but you dont need to mess with them14:03
veyronharris: try locate *.deb ;-)14:03
myk_robinsonmorning. I need some help troubleshooting a har dfreeze on a fresh Kubuntu install. Check here for details:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4810848#post481084814:03
Dr_willisharris,  and ubotu  is a bot. :)14:03
xinbaoharris:keep calm,,, fresfisfh must have some time to adust sea,isn't it?14:03
harriswhhhheewwwzzzz Shame........... Shame14:04
harrisshame on me14:05
harrishehehehehehhe im a fresh water fish14:05
harrisprinting hello world14:06
jussio1harris: while its fantastic you are learning python, we should probably keep this channel free for kubuntu specific help.14:08
veyronmyk_robinson: visiting the logfiles could give you more info14:08
myk_robinsonveyron: i think these are in /var/log, correct? Is there one in particular i should be examining?14:08
Dr_willisI just discivered about 100 little mini games in python to keep me busy at work now... THanks a lot!  Now i will proberly get fired.14:09
Dr_willis:P14:09
myk_robinsondang, it just froze from a reboot.14:09
corbankubuntu's package selection is terrible14:09
Dr_williscorban,  add the other repositories.14:10
atlecan someone help me with a problem after upgrading to 8.04? Knetworkmanager says "No network device found"14:10
corbanthere are more....i'm already thetre lol14:10
jussio1corban: there are 20000 ish packages in the repos, cant be that bad.14:10
harrishehehehheh DR willis14:11
thompasame old question this time. and difference in 64 version?14:11
corbanwell i'm on 64bit14:12
thompa*any noticable changes in 6414:12
thompacorban: ive had two very differnt problems on each14:12
veyronmyk_robinson: use fgrep to find errors in /var/log14:12
thompaupgraded, but im doing cllean install14:13
thompaon the updated 64 cant fsk anymore and have to do ctrl d14:13
myk_robinsonveyron: i'm a little green with cli, would it be   fgrep error /var/log ?14:14
splawinskiis this venue ok for a problem from a new kubuntu user?14:14
thompacorban: im on an amde64 X2 2200 i think14:14
veyronman fgrep;-) sry don't know it,14:14
atleanyone?14:15
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emilsedgh!anyone | atle14:16
ubotuatle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?14:16
emilsedghhm14:17
veyronmyk_robinson: sudo fgrep error /var/log/* could be good14:17
BluesKajatle, behind a router ? If so ,reboot the router14:17
myk_robinsonthanks, i just found that too at an online grep tutorial :)14:18
veyronatle: ifconfig?14:18
atleworks fine when i boot win on the machine14:19
atleand was never a problem untill i upgraded14:19
atleveyron: hmm.. never heard of14:20
veyrontype in commandline: man ifconfig read about it and try to use it14:20
romanstefani have rebooted after installing packages, and with no adept allready running (or any apt get comands etc entered in a terminal) i get this message: "another process is using the packaging system database..... would you like to resolve this problem....." none of the options it promts solve the issue.14:20
xanax`how can I add an application launcher to the desktop of an application that has root access14:22
xanax`I would like to see a password window and then the application granted to be run14:23
thompawell anybody got issue or speed improvement on 64? compiz?14:23
flipstarxanax`: just use kdesudo infront of the application name14:24
atleveyron: hmm.. seems like just "lo" are up, guess eth0 or eth1 should be up.. bot how do i get them up and running?14:24
thompaon the 386 no usb automounting on certain devices, but they mounted in 6414:24
veyronatle: there is a output for eth0?14:25
BluesKajxanax`, yeah i've trying to get an answer to that question for a week now , since google earth went beta and now requires permissin to launch from the /opt/google-earth file14:25
atleVeryon: only when using -a14:25
harrisheyyyyy python is easyyyyyyy14:26
harrisfor basic14:26
flipstarBluesKaj: why dont you install as user / give the file user permissions ?14:26
atlehad a problem with sudo not working, could that influence the netwiormanager in any way?14:27
veyronthere are a lot of configurable things when setting up eth0 in cmd;-)14:27
atlewell, up untill now it has just worked, only thing i did was upgrade to 8.0414:27
BluesKajflipstar, it won't install as user , has to be sudo'd14:27
flipstarBluesKaj: are you using the binary from earth.google.com or the ubuntu installer ?14:28
BluesKajflipstar, the binary14:30
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wolfgergood morning, everybody14:31
flipstarhm i always had trouble with it..i'm using the 'googleearth-package'14:31
jussio1good afternoon wolfger14:31
BluesKajflipstar, I would have used the ubuntu installer if there was one .14:31
wolfgerAm I the only one having severe CPU usage problem with Amarok in Hardy?14:31
jussio1BluesKaj: isnt google earth in medibuntu?14:31
flipstarBluesKaj: just install googleearth-package and type make-googleearth-package14:31
flipstarit will create a .deb14:32
BluesKajflipstar, really eh ?14:32
HARRIZhello14:32
snikkermy nvidia settings (config with nvidia-settings) are not applyed at reboot. how can i fix this?14:32
atillahello everybody14:33
flipstarBluesKaj: it's basicly the same since it uses also the binary..but runs somehow better here14:33
Romnous:D14:33
xanax`when I add new repositories to the "adept repositories configuration window", it doesn't display new added entries. Has anyone noticed the same behaviour ?14:33
Romnouswill 8.10 be KDE4 only ?14:33
flipstarsnikker: run nvidia-settings as root and click on save to xorg.conf14:33
ari_anyway to edit the panel kicker? change the background etc?14:34
romanstefanyes xanax i had the same14:34
snikkerflipstar: i've do it as root and saved (it's write correctly in xorg.conf), but this settings are not loaded after reboot14:35
flipstarsnikker: make also sure you don't melt it with the existent14:35
ari_I was talking about in KDE414:36
snikkerflipstar: i've set 1024x768 85Mhz (values from monitor user's guide) but at reboot set me at 75mhz14:36
snikkerflipstar: mhz --> hz14:37
flipstarsnikker: so the values in xorg.conf are correct ?14:37
snikkerflipstar: yes i think that are correct14:38
Romnouswill 8.10 be KDE4 only ?14:38
flipstarsnikker: it should be HorizSync       30.0 - 98.0 and VertRefresh     50.0 - 160.014:38
xanax`there is two versions of kubuntu, Romnous14:38
Romnousxanax`, i know14:38
Romnousbut most of the applications aren't ported to kde4 afaik14:38
Romnousso i'm wondering, if the next release will be kde4 only14:39
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snikkerflipstar: i've got: HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 and VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0 (checked with monitor user's guide)14:39
flipstarRomnous: ask in 3-4 month's :)14:39
romanstefani have rebooted after installing packages, and with no adept allready running (or any apt get comands etc entered in a terminal) i get this message: "another process is using the packaging system database..... would you like to resolve this problem....." none of the options it promts solve the issue.14:39
xanax`when will be the next official version of ubuntu ? next year ? then maybe most of applications will have been updated to kde 4 at this time.14:40
Romnousflipstar, oh i will :)14:40
romanstefanhas anyone had this?14:40
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romanstefanis this related to your problem xanax?14:40
flipstarsnikker: you can try to correct this value's maybe your monitor isnt detected correct or so14:40
BluesKajflipstar, jussio1 , ok  the repos have the older version of google with an upgrade option , thx i never thought to to look since all they had in the repos a week ago was the debian buil pkg14:40
flipstarxanax`: every 6 months comes a new version14:41
BluesKajbuild14:41
Dragnslcrxanax`- next version will most likely be 8.1014:41
xanax`oh ok.14:41
hhMishHow do I  install kubuntu without GUI ?14:41
RomnoushhMish, lol ?14:41
Romnousget ubuntu server edition14:41
DragnslcrhhMish- get the Ubuntu server version14:41
Romnous:)14:41
hhMishok thnks14:42
DragnslcrWithout KDE, Kubuntu is just the same as Ubuntu14:42
corbanwhere i can find linkx to extra reops14:42
Dragnslcrcorban- they're all checkboxes in Adept14:43
corbanjust those?14:43
flipstarcorban: these are the recommend sources there are dozen of other's14:45
flipstarbut most of them are inofficial14:45
corbanok14:47
sc0ttпривет, кто ставил virtualbox под кубунту 8,04?14:48
Lynoure!ru | sc0tt14:48
ubotusc0tt: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke14:48
corbanhow often are the repos updated?14:49
okvall the time14:49
corbanhow often should i update14:49
corbanonce a day, twice?14:49
flipstarcorban: it automaticly search for updates daily14:49
corbani like to have the newest software14:49
corbanok14:49
flipstarcorban: most of updates are security and bug fixes14:50
corbani moved from sabayon (gentoo based) to kububtu14:50
sc0ttthx ))14:50
flipstarcorban: welcome to kubuntu then :)14:50
corbani hope i haven't gotten people 'angry' with me...i think i did in the off-topic channel just from pointing out an observation14:51
BluesKajno is angry with you corban :)14:52
BluesKajno one14:52
corbanok cool14:52
corbani'm just kinda checking it out...if i'm happy with the community i contribute the best i can14:53
BluesKajcorban, a hint , don't use "absolute" when describing something either negatively or positively ..there are no absolutes14:54
corbansorry just pointing out an observation a friend made who is an highly experienced linux user14:54
corbanthnx for the welcome by the wat it really means alot14:56
corbanas i am testing the support waters and community-friendliness waters14:56
gromozekinhi there.14:56
gromozekinit s impossible to install new iconset in kubuntu 8.04!14:57
gromozekin)14:57
LimCorewhen ubuntu will support sound recording, that actually works on modern hardware?14:59
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schroediHi15:05
trident523!hi | schroedi15:06
ubotuschroedi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!15:06
schroediHi15:06
schroedigerman?15:06
corbancan someone help me with patching wine?15:07
corbanor should i goto winehq channel15:07
HARRIZHELLLLLLLO15:07
flipstarschroedi: german in #kubuntu-de15:07
schroediTHX15:08
pickciao15:08
schroedibye15:08
flipstarcorban: when it's not kubuntu specific #winehq would probably better15:08
flipstarcan i change the style of kmenu somehow ? a background picture or so would be cool :)15:12
okvHi, all! Does anyone know how to fix "slow graphics" problem? after I upgraded to 8.04, everything in graphics is really slow, when I scroll down a website it takes about 15 seconds to do , two frames per second15:13
okvSame with all videos, you can see each frame loading from up to down15:14
Romnousflipstar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51564815:15
okvIt seems like sometihng to do with graphics card, as it updates the screen so slowly15:15
spirooIf I need help with apache2 config, where do I ask?15:15
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flipstarRomnous: thanks :)15:21
flipstarspiroo: #ubuntu-server probably15:21
flipstarokv: just install the graphic's driver15:21
spirooflipstar: Thanks, but I found channel apache .D15:22
flipstarthat's cool :) if it's a very small problem i also could help you i think15:22
okvflipstar: I found a solution now. I had to remove xgl15:26
okvflipstar: I removed package called xserver-xgl or something like that and restarted the system, now it runs smoothly and refreshes screen normally15:27
BluesKajokv, what card ?15:28
okvBluesKaj: Intel's integrated, 965 or something like that15:31
okvBluesKaj: I found a page with google that said XGL causes this problem with older Ati and Intel's integrated graphics15:32
okvBut right now I have problem with flash. Works perfectly with Firefox but I can't get any flash content showing up on opera15:32
okvFlash worked finely on Opera before I upgraded to 8.0415:32
BluesKajopera not working on youtube then ?15:33
okvnope15:33
BluesKajok, flashplugin-nonfree installed ?15:33
okvYes, and it works perfectly with firefox.15:33
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flipstarokv: maybe use the beta of opera15:34
flipstaryou can grab it from www.opera.com15:34
okvflashplugin can't be made to work with the version that comes with 8.04 Kubuntu?15:34
BluesKajI just installed opera with apt..gonna check15:34
okvI prefer to use the versions that come from repo if at all possible15:34
flipstarsomehow probably yes15:34
flipstarokv: first, is the flashplugin listed in opera ?15:35
okvyes15:35
okvI checked opera:plugins and it's there,15:35
okv/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so <-- this is listed in opera:plugins15:36
flipstarokay..and it is probably also enabled ?15:36
okvI don't know where to disable or enable it15:37
flipstarin opera settings plugins or so15:37
flipstarpreferences>content15:37
snikkerhow i can change the resolution of kdm (post login screen)?15:37
okvYes, plugins are enabled in Opera preferences15:38
flipstarokv: than it's probably opera itself that don't work proper15:39
flipstarsnikker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a4215:40
okvThat's too bad.. I guess I'll just have to stop using Opera and use Firefox until Opera fixes it's compatibility with flashplugin15:40
spirooDoes somebody in here has experience with apache2 configuration? I do not get any answer in apache or ubuntu-server channel :(15:41
okvWeird thing is, thoug, that it used to work with older Opera before I upgraded to 8.0415:41
flipstarokv: it works great with the beta..and they even provide .deb's15:41
flipstarspiroo: whats the problem ?15:41
okvShouuld Opera's plugin path include /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?15:42
spirooflipstar: I cannot access root when I am going to http://localhost, then It seems it does not read my .htaccess file.15:42
okvI just noticed that those paths are included in Opera's plugin path15:43
DfizzleLo. I've just installed 8.04. However, this is not in the languange I chose, and whenever I try apt-get install, it gives me "packet not found". I tried reinstalling but did the same. Any suggestions?15:43
flipstarokv: yes that's correct15:43
flipstarspiroo: you have the file mentioned under AccessFileName ?15:44
HARRIZhelp me i downloaded bsdgames-nonfree and i cant find it15:44
flipstarDfizzle: systemsettings>language and adept>software sources15:44
spirooflipstar: I have all files. Not sure what you mean with AccessFileName though.15:45
flipstarspiroo: you have to give the path of the htaccess files in the config if it's a none standart path15:45
flipstarspiroo: that's an entry in the apache2.config file15:45
Dfizzleflipstar: theres no languange and adept :|15:46
spirooflipstar: Yes it says: "AccessFileName .htaccess"15:46
flipstarDfizzle: you definitive can choose the language from systemsettings>language15:47
Dfizzletheres only one languange15:47
DfizzleUS english15:47
flipstarDfizzle: than add another15:47
spirooflipstar: But it should work without editting in there. I have getting this problem before. I do not remeber though how to solve it :( If i remember right, I should edit something in sites-enabled for apache2.15:47
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Dfizzle+ the bigger problem was that apt-get install does not work.15:47
DfizzleI had same problem with 7.10 but reinstall fixed it. Didn't this time15:47
blackflaghow can I disable postfix daemon starting during bootup15:48
blackflag?15:48
Juan__When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?15:48
Dfizzlemaybe I'll do 3rd install-> :p15:48
blackflag!run level15:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about run level - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi15:48
llutzblackflag: use update-rc.d15:49
spirooflipstar: I changed to AllowOverride All instead of None. But now it says, 403 forbidden on every single page I am trying to access :D15:49
flipstarDfizzle: what you mean apt-get install doesn't work ?15:49
Dfizzleflipstar: whatever I try to get, it says "Packet not found"15:49
Juan__update it15:49
halcyonCorsairhow come pulseaudio isn't setup by default in kubuntu?15:49
Juan__Dfizzle: Have you tried clicking "Fetch updates"?15:50
Juan__and selecting more repositories15:50
LynourehalcyonCorsair: hearing of all the trouble it has caused on Gnome, I don't think I'd want it by default..15:50
Dfizzlelike in adept?15:50
flipstarspiroo: you already edited /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ?15:50
cor-al-gimAhoj15:50
Juan__Dfizzle: yessir. Adept -> Manage Repositories15:51
Juan__When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?15:51
Dfizzleok15:51
spirooflipstar: I changed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.15:51
diegohi1 can you help me to install compiz ?15:51
Dfizzlehmmlol, I tried sudo apt-get update and now it works :--D sucks to be linux noob. But its better than windows expert.15:52
halcyonCorsairok, and how about getting stuff like dvds to work?15:52
spirooflipstar: I have only edited in "<Directory /var/www/>" where it says AllowOverride.15:52
flipstarspiroo: maybe check the apache log in /var/log/apache15:52
Juan__diego: K Menu -> System -> Desktop Effects15:52
Juan__er ok15:52
Lynoure!dvd15:52
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs15:52
Juan__Dfizzle: I'm pretty new at Kubuntu as well, so we're both learning.15:53
flipstarspiroo: it's already some time ago since a setup my apache but was a bit more complicated trough ssl and so here15:53
spirooflipstar: I have, it only says "[Sun Apr 27 16:40:28 2008] [crit] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: /var/www/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable" :D15:53
flipstarspiroo: then ensure it's readable :p15:54
spirooflipstar: I guess thats my problem :D15:54
spirooflipstar: Hmm, how do I do it readable?15:54
halcyonCorsairshouldn't kaffeine auto install the right stuff for playing dvds or whatever?15:54
okvOne other weird thing happened after upgrading to 8.04. I can't jump to ctrl+alt+F2 or other console windows. It just says "no signal" on monitor when I try that15:54
flipstarspiroo: <kdesu konqueror /var/www/> and right click>preferences>permissions15:54
spirooflipstar: Okay fixed, but now it says: "[Sun Apr 27 16:54:43 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Directory index forbidden by Options directive: /var/www/"15:55
spiroolol15:55
spirooflipstar: Seems like rewrite module does not work for .htaccess file. I do not have any index file. But thats for a reason.15:55
diegohi i installed kubuntu yesterady im trying to install compiz but i dont know how can you help me please?15:56
LynourehalcyonCorsair: I wish it was that simple, but the licencing involved in playing dvds does not make it so (did you se the factlet ubote said?)15:56
Juan__diego: K Menu -> System -> Desktop Effects15:56
Juan__easiest way15:56
flipstarspiroo: what do you want to access without an index oO btw check the error.log not the connection log ..15:56
diegothanks15:56
spirooflipstar: I am checking the error.log.15:57
flipstaroh15:57
spirooflipstar: Well I have this line: "RewriteRule ^.+(/.*)?$                                                   /www/default.php                              [L]"15:57
halcyonCorsairLynoure: i'm reading the page, but i'm wondering because when i was running amd64 it auto installed the dvd stuff with kaffeine when i first tried to play a dvd15:57
spirooflipstar: I am point every single request so I can handle it for my framework ;)15:58
Juan__When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?15:58
DfizzleJuan__ I have the same15:58
Dfizzleor atleast had with 7.1015:58
Juan__Nice to know I'm not the only one.15:59
DfizzleI just didnt use it then >_>15:59
Juan__Google does not seem to be helping much.15:59
corbanwhats is a good alternative to VirtualBox15:59
flipstarspiroo: my apache kung fu is very limited..try googling the error messages :)15:59
Juan__If I can't get my pc to go into sleep mode, then Kubuntu is useless to me.15:59
spirooflipstar: Woho, I almost get this thing to work now. One problem, now my framework caught localhost/phpmyadmin request. phpmyadmin is an alias and should go before my .htaccess. But it do not. Then I cannot go to localhost. It says permission denied. That was my problem before. You should be able to sort that out.15:59
okvI have a problem since I upgraded to 8.04. I can't anymore see the console window when I press CTRL+ALT+F1, it just shows "no signal" on monitor like it's trying to use some unsupported resolution or someting. pressing CTRL+ALt+F7 brings it back to X normally though. Any solutions?16:00
spirooflipstar: Yes I am googling all the time, but I do not get any great info if I say so. Only get things I already know about :D16:00
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halcyonCorsairRiddell: pin16:00
halcyonCorsairRiddell: ping16:00
spirooflipstar: It is quite funny, my framework get an error message like this: "Controller file does not exist: PhpmyadminController.php (Application warning)" :D16:01
spirooflipstar: phpmyadmin should work with aliased16:01
spiroo*aliases16:01
kiccookv: checked out vga= parameter in grub con figle?16:01
kiccoehm.. grub menu.lst file?16:02
okvkicco: Nope. How do I check it?16:02
kiccosudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst16:02
diegois there someone that speaks spanish here?16:02
okvkicco: The file seems a bit outdates since it still mentions 7.10, although I upgraded to 8.0416:03
diegoi didnt discover how to install compiz16:04
okvkicco: But anyway I see many options there, recovery modes etc. Can't find VGA anywhere16:04
kiccookv: tried a grub-update?16:04
spirooflipstar: The problem is when I go to root localhost it is trying to make an index of directories because I do not have any index file. The other problem is that I have switched of Indexes in Options directive :D16:04
okvkicco: No16:05
UzLinuxHello all16:05
UzLinuxI have some questions for any kubuntu gurus out there16:05
okvkicco: It doesn't seem to work. I typed "grub-update" in the console, no response16:05
kiccookv: try. btw vga stuff should be in this form near the end of the file: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=937849ea-8355-444f-86b5-cf2a2824ebe1 ro quiet splash vga=79516:05
neonhow cab i get kbfx to work, i apply the style but nothing happens?16:06
kiccookv: as root?16:06
flipstarspiroo: that's the usal behavior without an index file16:06
okvkicco: yep: sudo: grub-update: command not found16:06
Juan__I am trying to run wine-doors from terminal and get "ImportError: No module named glade"16:06
flipstarokv: it's update-grub16:06
DfizzleDoes anyone know how I can get firefox to default browser? It doesn't work from its options :/16:06
okvkicco: I see many different options in the menu.lst, but none of them has that vga parameter16:07
kiccookv: sorry :P16:07
kiccoflipstar is right16:07
AndreSantosany1 having problems on the sound on 8.04?16:07
flipstarokv: what you triying to do..?16:07
neonDfizzle: go on to the control center on kde components and switch there16:07
okvflipstar: Ok, update-grub worked, now I have 8.04 mentioned in menu.lst instead of 7.1016:07
DfizzleThanks neon16:07
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kiccookv: great16:08
spirooflipstar: I know, but is it possible to make it read my .htaccess file anyway? My .htaccees file points / to my startpage which I have in another place. My /www/default.php is pointing to my template engine which reads right template.16:08
okvflipstar: What I'm trying to do is to get my console windows working, CTRL+ALT+F1 results now in "no signal", like it's trying to use some non-supported resolution or sometihng16:08
okvflipstar: However, when I click CTRL+ALT+F7, it comes back to X nicely16:08
UzLinuxHow come the network folder wizard doesn't allow me to enter an ssh port higher than 32768?  Is there an update or patch for this?16:08
okvflipstar: They worked fine until I upgraded to 8.04..16:08
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flipstarokv: that bug should be dissapred with hardy..you have no vga option in menu.lst ?16:09
Juan__When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?16:09
okvflipstar: I've no vga-option in any of the options in menu.lst16:09
BluesKajokv, i followed the instructions on the Opera site for flashplugins to the letter but youtube still won't play video content16:09
flipstarspiroo: of corse you can change the default directory ..16:09
kiccookv+flipstar: it happened to me also and i added the vga parameter16:10
okvBluesKaj: I tried other sites as well, like liveleak.com and even Adobe's plugin-test-site. It seems the flashplugin just doesn't work with the latest version of Opera that comes up with 8.0416:10
flipstarkicco: i had to remove it :p16:10
AndreSantosany1 having problems on the sound on 8.04?16:10
kiccoflipstar: is it a bug?16:10
BluesKajyeah , too bad , Opera is a nice browser16:10
XerxesBluesKaj...You tried the instruction on this page :16:10
Xerxeshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser16:10
okvkicco: ok, I have like 8 different options there, half of them are recovery-options, which of them should I add VGA ?16:11
flipstarkicco: yes..a huge one but it's solved already16:11
spirooflipstar: How do you mean?16:11
flipstarspiroo: you can change the default dir in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default16:11
BluesKajXerxes, yes but the point is does it work in hardy ?16:12
flipstarspiroo: it will search in the place you enter after DocumentRoot for an index file then16:12
XerxesBluesKaj...Uhh...Sorry I am still on Gutsy.So can't check it out.:(16:13
spirooflipstar: it shall not search for an index file at all.16:13
spirooflipstar: My .htaccess and framework should handle it all by itself.16:13
flipstarokv: at the end of the kernel line16:13
flipstarspiroo: sorry don't know any about this16:14
okvflipstar: I've 8 different kernel lines there16:15
spirooflipstar: It is allright :) Thanks for all your help anyway. I am trying to sort it out with google ans some help from apache channel.16:15
flipstarokv: just choose the first16:15
okvflipstar: Done. I'll try to reboot if it helps/works16:17
kiccookv:16:17
kiccokv: at the end of the kernel line16:17
kicco[17:16] <flipstar> spiroo: sorry16:17
kicco??16:17
spirookicco: What?16:18
flipstarokv: you have to update grub after that of corse16:18
kiccookv: excellent howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=kernel+booting+parameters16:18
kiccoflipstar: don't need to16:18
flipstarkicco: of corse you have to16:19
flipstarit's essential16:19
kiccoflipstar: tha main change between lilo and grub is that one, u don't need to reload grub avery time because is loaded at run time by grub himself16:20
ubuntuhi16:21
flipstarbut if you change the menu.lst you have to update grub16:21
martijn81hi ubuntu16:21
LeeuwI ticked to 'off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot' , it had a warning that after changing the system it could break things; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find that setting back, where co16:21
ubuntucan some1 help me16:21
ubuntuim new w/linex16:21
kiccoflipstar: try16:21
ubuntulinux*16:22
flipstarkicco: i did a few times16:22
ismailimali nyakoy16:22
martijn81ubuntu: sure, just shoot and maybe someone knows what you are trying to figure out16:22
flipstarkicco: i installed a new kernel and forgot to update-grub so the old was booted16:22
ismailnyakoy razbirali bulgarski16:22
RiddellhalcyonCorsair: hi16:22
ubuntuwell, does it support java?16:23
ralphHi, a friend has done the 7.10 to 8.04 Kubuntu upgrade on two separate machine in two locations and in both finds KNetwork Manager lists his WAPs but on entering his ESSID and WEP key nothing happens; it doesn't connect.  It worked fine on both machine in 7.10.  Is this a known 8.04 issue?  URL?16:23
ismailимали нъакоъ16:23
robotgeekflipstar: well, you know you can boot into new one from the grub command line?16:23
martijn81ubuntu: there are some java versions in the reopsitory, but i guess you mean sun java, we support that16:23
ismailбулгарски16:24
kiccoflipstar: did the same, grub loads its configuration at runtime16:24
martijn81ubuntu: try this in konsole: apt-cache search sun16:24
BluesKaj!ru | ismail16:24
ubotuismail: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:24
ubuntuim trying to play the game runescape, so i dont no wat java it is16:25
Dfizzlein 8.04, do I need to install ccsm to modify compiz settings?16:25
flipstarrobotgeek: sure you can :)16:25
ismailуботу ас сам булгарин16:25
ralphAre the generally wifi problems in 8.04 getting knetworkmanager to take an ESSID and WEP?16:25
okvflipstar: I tried to add the vga=795 in the end, it screwed up the system totally and wouldn't work after re-booting, just had some cursor blinking on upper left corner afted it booted. Lucklily I had other kernel options in the grub so I managed to load another one16:26
flipstarkicco: whatever if you change the menu.lst you need to update-grub manually16:26
ismailмерси16:26
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ismailбратушка16:26
okvflipstar: Weird thing is, when I start the computer it works, ctrl+atl+F2 and others work, since I don't boot directly to X, but after I startx, the CTRL+ALT+F2 and others stop working16:26
ismailturkish16:27
flipstarokv: 795 is a little high..try 792 or so16:27
flipstar792 is default btw16:27
ubuntuim gonna try my windows again, see ya guys, and girls16:27
okvflipstar: I'll try that16:27
kiccookv: that's weird16:27
okvDoes anyone know why 8.04 messes up the CTRL+ALT+F2 thing?16:27
flipstarokv: it's a framebuffer issue16:28
okvI'll try to reboot now with vga=792, brb16:28
aredieyhi all16:28
halcyonCorsairRiddell: oh crap....what was i going to ask O_O16:29
spirooflipstar: You seem to be the right man to ask. Is there any application which works as good as Zend Studio. which mean a god php/css/xhtml editor which can handle large projects with easy.16:30
kiccoflipstar: shit, you're right, my kernel-img.conf loads automatically update-grub :P16:30
ismailbulgarian irk kanal16:31
halcyonCorsairRiddell: oh yeah....kaffeine's auto codec installer, it seems to work for libdvdcss on amd64, but not i386, can't find the package, whose department is that?16:31
BluesKaj!bg | ismail16:33
ubotuismail: опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently16:33
will00anyone know why amarok would be consuming 97.00 in my user% ?16:33
blackflagahh, thank you!!!16:34
BluesKaj!anyone16:34
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?16:34
okvBack..16:34
okvflipstar: 792 was worse than 795.. with 795 I was still able to see it while it was booting, but with 792 it went black screen immediately once it started booting it16:34
TheGentlemanAnyone knows how to upgrade from Kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate i386 CD ?  Instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu do not work in my case.16:35
ralphHow does one debug knetworkmanager issues?  What log file does it write to for example?  It sees the WAP but supplying WEP and ESSID doesn't work.  It doesn't connect.16:35
MilitantPotatoHey all, did a fresh install of Hardy, but my /dev/hda (location of /)has become /dev/sdc It's a PATA drive, not a SATA aswell.  Any idea how I can get the drives in order?  I have 1 PATA (Pri master) and two SATA (channel 2 and 4.)16:36
BluesKajTheGentleman, try upgrading with adept , click on "Version Upgrade"16:37
ralphMilitantPotato: don't think you can unless your motherboard supports EDD.  Try `dmesg | grep -i edd'.16:37
JucatoMilitantPotato: I think the kernel (or something) have all migrated to using sda, no matter what type of drive16:38
gothicd3vilhi, how can i upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu?16:38
MilitantPotatoJucato: how does that effect the performance of ATA?16:38
MilitantPotatoralph: [   22.989989] BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found16:39
TheGentlemanBluesKaj, I know i can do it that way, but it would take hours....  I have a freshly burnt alternate cd at hand and i find stupid to use precious bandwith in this case16:39
MilitantPotatogothicd3vil: if you want to keep Ubuntu, just install kubuntu-desktop16:39
JucatoMilitantPotato: not really afaik16:39
gothicd3viland if i want to delete ubuntu?16:40
MilitantPotatoIt all seems to be working well, guess I'll adjust :)16:40
BluesKajok TheGentleman, it's your choice , but if your alt cd isn't working ....16:40
gothicd3vilis that the setup of kubuntu that i download is fu...16:40
okvIs there any place where I could find out what vga option I should use in the grub menu.lst?16:41
spirooCould someone recommend a good editor for php/xhtml/css which can handles large projects?16:41
MilitantPotatoThe Gentle16:41
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: Does it say command not found?16:41
TheGentlemanIt's not the CD itself BluesKaj . It was md5sum checked and verified after K3B burning and it is ok. Only it does not appear as mounted like said in official instructions16:41
TheGentlemanMilitantPotato, yes!16:41
kiccookv: the url i gave explains all16:41
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: Mount the icon on your desktop16:42
MilitantPotatoThen find where it's mounted16:42
okvkicco: I'll look back if I see the URL16:42
kiccospiroo: i use ecplise...16:42
okvkicco: Found it,t hanks16:42
spirookicco: For PHP editting :O ?16:42
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: should me /media/cdrom016:43
MilitantPotatobe*16:43
spirookicco: Eclipse is for C++ and Java?16:43
kiccookv: there's a link to a fremebuffer howto also, wich should be your problem16:43
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: Then in Konsole, type cd /media/cdrom016:43
MilitantPotatothen run upgrade command without the path16:43
TheGentlemanit is not MilitantPotato: it gets mounted as /media/Kubuntu 8.04 i386  (with spaces)16:43
kiccospiroo: with php plugin... don't remeber the name16:43
kiccospiroo: most of time i use vim16:44
spirookicco: Hmm okay, I try it out. Do you know aboyt Zend Studio?16:44
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman:  Ok, head to that directory in terminal16:44
ralphMilitantPotato: was there a "EDD information not available." line too?16:44
kiccospiroo: i knew i cotst too much for what it does, but i never used it16:45
MilitantPotatoYes Ralph16:45
TheGentlemanyou can't use spaces in terminal command MilitantPotato16:45
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: Enter it w/ quotes?16:45
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: or type cd /media/Ku (then hit tab)16:45
MilitantPotatothat may work.16:46
TheGentlemanok, will try that, thanks MilitantPotato16:46
spirookicco: Well, thats a hell of a editor :D Wondering if there is something like that?16:46
ralphMilitantPotato: ok, that means your BIOS, like the huge majority, doesn't support EDD and that's the only way the BIOS and Linux can agree on the order of block devices.16:46
ralphMilitantPotato: it causes all sorts of grub install problems.16:46
TheGentlemanAnyway, instructions given at Kubuntu website are misleading and incorrect!16:46
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: or, open the CD rom drive with dolphin, and click the "open a terminal" here16:47
MilitantPotatoralph: would that be why I got a busy box trying to do an upgrade during boot?16:47
warren_hi16:48
TheGentlemanMilitantPotato, I already tryed issuieng the command cdromupgrade command from dolphin using "Run as Root"16:48
warren_hardy really rules for the kde desktop (Kde3) but i saw today that a package isn't updated to the latest version and would like to know if something can be done to ask the package upgrade (in the upgrade repositories)? the package concerned is "kmess"; what can i do?16:49
gothicd3vilwhich is the different between dapper and kde?16:49
nosrednaekimgothicd3vil: dapper? thats a ubuntu version16:49
okvkicco: Weird, 795 and 792 should be fully supported by my graphics card and monitor...16:49
nosrednaekimkde is a program16:49
ralphMilitantPotato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/849716:49
alpacohardy heron is not stable at all16:50
warren_no? :s it's on my pc :)16:50
ralphMilitantPotato: it could be that grub installed itself with incorrect info leading to it using the wrong drive during booting.16:50
alpacowhen I try to import my bookmarks to firefox3b2 it crashes16:50
gothicd3vilalpaco but the graphics are the same?16:50
warren_install firefox2 again16:50
alpacohmm16:50
warren_some things are broken and not really the problem of ubuntu16:50
alpacogothicd3vil: everything is the same16:51
warren_it's a firefox 3 problem16:51
gothicd3vilthanks16:51
wolfearis there a fix somehwere for the pager?..after reboot, it loses all settings and reverts back to 2 desktops16:51
nosrednaekimwolfear: are you using compiz?16:51
alpacogothicd3vil: plus you have the Brasero disc burning utility16:51
warren_Can I do something to ask the update of a package in Hardy?16:51
wolfearnot that I know of. I disabled all desktop effects16:51
nosrednaekimalpaco: this is kubuntu, not ubuntu16:51
wolfearI'm running Hardy if that helps any16:52
flipstaris there a good dj/mixing program ?16:52
nosrednaekimwolfear: di you get the number of desktops to 3 or for or whatever?16:52
nosrednaekimflipstar: ask in #ubuntustudio16:52
alpacowarren_: what I really hate about hardy heron is that firefox3b2 deletes your duplicate bookmarks16:52
alpaco#firefox16:53
robotgeekalpaco: why is that a bad thing?16:53
wolfearnosrednaekim: not sure what you mean. I can set them to any number and it works fine until I reboot (due to stupid freeze bug)16:53
nosrednaekimwolfear: ah.... it freezes when you logout?16:53
alpacorobotgeek: my bookmarks file is around 10 years old and I have categorized bookmarks in different areas16:54
nosrednaekimand you no-doubt have an ATI16:54
wolfearnosrednaekim: no...sorry..the freeze is unrelated16:54
psycoAnyone know a movie making program??16:54
robotgeekalpaco: oh, so it does not autotag? Maybe someone should right an extension for it :)16:54
nosrednaekimwolfear: when does the freeze occur?16:54
TheGentlemanMilitantPotato, can you please have a look at http://paste-it.net/public/oaf9b1d/ about my "command not found" problem?16:55
wolfearnosrednaekim: the freeze is unrelated to the pager problem. But they occur randomly. They have been discussed on the Ubuntu forums a lot already.16:55
nosrednaekimwolfear: ok... what you have to do is setthe pager how you like, then log out16:56
BluesKajwolfear, is hardy freezing at logout ?16:56
wolfearnosrednaekim: that all..wow. cool16:56
wolfearBlues: not at logout. they just occur randomly.16:57
nosrednaekimwolfear: and that should save the settings despite freezes16:57
robotgeekTheGentleman: try sudo ./cdromupgrade instead16:57
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: use sudo ./cdromupgrade16:57
robotgeekTheGentleman: however, I think you should be doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu16:58
MilitantPotatocdromupgrade is a script file, it needs ./ to run16:58
wolfearnosrednaekim: thanks16:58
BluesKajdunno if this will help but ATI users have had a prob with Xorg hanging on logout, here's a fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/3216:58
TheGentlemanrobotgeek, i followed that page's instructions already and it does not work at all!16:58
TheGentlemanalways the same "command not found" error16:59
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: you're a live saver... I was just searching for that16:59
wolfearBlues: it's not a graphics issue. The freezes are a long standing bug that started appearing under Gutsy and have carried over into Hardy.16:59
DfizzleHow can I get 3d Cube in 8.10? I installed compizfusion from system->desktop effects17:00
BluesKajnosrednaekim, JoshOvki clued me into that page , so he deserves some of the credit :)17:00
* nosrednaekim hugs JoshOvki and bookmarks it17:00
BluesKajok wolfear , that's a different prob then17:00
okvok I've now tried vga=795, vga=792, vga=791.. I still have the problem, and the problem only occurs if I have started X17:01
wolfearBlues: correct. But thanks17:01
robotgeekTheGentleman: command not found for the kdesu thing? maybe it is not mounted at /cdrom ?17:01
okvIt's quite depressing to see that Linux usage still seems to need too much expertise to get it functionin properly :(17:01
TheGentlemanrobotgeek, correct!  it gets mounted at /media/Kubuntu 8.04 i386  (with spaces !!!!)17:03
flipstarokv: thats a bug usally it is working..maybe see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/12991017:03
will00ey im having an issue compiling mysql iv pasted the error here http://pastebin.com/m19e7a96e17:03
MilitantPotatoBluesKaj: Oh man, you're my hero.  Thank you!17:04
BluesKajwolfear, sounds to me like that prob altho random , should be reported https://launchpad.net/ubuntu17:04
* BluesKaj blushes :)17:04
spirooHow do I access a folder with spaces in terminal? When I type it thinks I am separating commands when I type space for the folder name :(17:04
wolfearBluesKaj: I have not checked lately, but I think it was reported on Launchpad quite some time ago17:04
BluesKajok17:04
robotgeekTheGentleman: in that case (i dunno why it does that!), try this -> kdesu "/media/Kubuntu\ 8.04\ i386/cdromupgrade"17:05
robotgeekspiroo: type \<space>17:05
spiroookay thanks :)17:05
BluesKajspiroo, try quotes around the "name_of_the_folder"17:05
spirooworks too :) Thank you guys17:06
TheGentlemanI did robotgeek !!! and it says "tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Impossibile open: Nessun file o directory17:06
TheGentleman"17:06
flipstarspiroo: btw you can use tab there as well17:06
okvflipstar: Thanks, I see now that it's a bug with Hardy17:06
robotgeekBluesKaj: thanks, I did not know that17:06
TheGentlemanno way to make it work17:06
robotgeekTheGentleman: is this a live cd or an alternate cd?17:07
TheGentlemanalternate of course17:07
BluesKajrobotgeek, not sure that it works everytime17:07
flipstarokv: i already had it with gutsy..but hardy solved it..seems very individual17:07
TheGentlemanand before anyone asks, the iso file was md5sum checked and a verify was performed on the CD after K3b burning17:09
alpacowhat virtualizers are available for hardy?17:09
robotgeekTheGentleman: :)17:09
Dragnslcrrobotgeek- I had the same problem trying to run the upgrade off the DVD. I'd get "Command not found" even though I could see that /cdrom/cdromupgrade existed17:09
nosrednaekimalpaco: virtualbox, kvm, qemu17:10
DragnslcrEventually I managed to get "Permission denied" errors instead, even when trying to run it with kdesu17:10
robotgeekDragnslcr: how did you solve?17:10
flipstarDragnslcr: that might coused becorse the file isn't executeable..?17:11
alpaconosrednaekim: i don't see any of them in the repos17:11
alpaconosrednaekim: my universe repo is enabled17:11
nosrednaekim!info virtualbox17:12
ubotuPackage virtualbox does not exist in hardy17:12
nosrednaekim!VirtualBox17:12
ubotuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox17:12
Dfizzle!info compiz17:12
ubotucompiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 33 kB, installed size 68 kB17:12
TheGentlemanit looks like an aexecutable from here: -r-xr-xr-x 1 franz root    942 2008-04-22 08:07 cdromupgrade17:12
nosrednaekim!info VirtualBox17:12
okvflipstar: Yep. That's ok, though, as I now tested this yakuake which someone recommended me few days ago. It'll replace the tty's nicely for me17:15
flipstarokv: did you had this trouble before installing yakuake ?17:16
okvflipstar: I installed yakuake a minute ago17:16
robotgeeki've begin to like konsole. i am moving from rxvt-unicode17:16
Dragnslcrflipstar- no, it was definitely executable17:16
Dragnslcrrobotgeek- I eventually gave up and ran the upgrade through Adept instead17:17
okvflipstar: Today earlier I upgraded to 8.04 and the "no signal" problem started immediately after17:17
robotgeekDragnslcr: ah okay.17:17
okvflipstar: But now as I don't seem to find any way to fix it, although I've tried some solutions that I found here and online, I just decided to install this "yakuake" which I have heard about before, which is handy for those who use console alot17:17
TheGentlemanrobotgeek, Dragnslcr MilitantPotato  I can't understand if my problem is a bug in the upgrade or an incorrect mount of the CD in some way17:18
Dragnslcrrobotgeek- I was just trying to be nice and save the servers a little bandwidth, since I had already gotten the DVD through the torrent anyway17:18
MilitantPotatoTheGentleman: unmount the cdrom, then mount it to a folder w/o spaces17:18
flipstarokv: it's still bad to have no tty's ..maybe try some of the tips in the launchpad thread17:18
DragnslcrTheGentleman- you may try asking in the forums. I had the same problem you did, and I don't know of anyone that's used the disc to upgrade17:19
flipstarDragnslcr: you probably could app the dvd to the sources17:19
flipstar*add17:19
Fujisanhelp17:19
amerigo! italian17:19
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!17:19
robotgeekDragnslcr: i was dumb enough to try upgrading with the ubuntu alternate cd. needless to say, it did not work!17:19
Fujisan!dutch17:19
ubotuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl17:19
Dragnslcrflipstar- yeah, but that would be too much effort to bother17:19
Fujisan!vista17:19
ubotuVista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows17:19
Fujisan:)17:20
okvflipstar: I tried some of them, that modprobe-thing which seemed to help some others, but it didn't help here17:20
robotgeek!msgthebot17:20
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.17:20
TheGentlemanI will ask in the forums....   I wouldn't like to mess up my Kubuntu with an incorrect upgrade procedure17:20
flipstarokv: hm as i said this bug seems to be very individual17:20
flipstarDragnslcr: adding a cd/dvd is really easy in adept17:21
okvflipstar: yep, hopefully it'll be fixed in some update17:21
flipstarthe bug is already marked as fixxed ..17:21
liuz大家好~17:22
kaminix!bug 22315317:25
kaminixHmm...17:25
kaminixAnyone willing to have a look? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/22315317:25
TheGentlemanflipstar: adept refuses to add the cd as a repository:  Errore nella scansione del CD E:Failed to mount the cdrom.17:25
flipstarTheGentleman: maybe try to mount it on /cdrom and try again17:26
Jucatois the CD an Alternate Install CD?17:26
okvflipstar: Could X video driver cause the problem? The tty17:27
okvflipstar: the tty's work fine all the way until I start startx, after that they just don't work, even when I close x17:27
flipstarokv: yes..this is also the last entry in the bug report17:28
TheGentlemanflipster: now this is really strange! i can't even unmount the CD. It says it is used by Konqueror (i do not open Konqueror since months....)17:29
TheGentleman                   USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND17:29
TheGentleman                     franz      6707 ..c.. krusader17:29
TheGentlemanooooops sorry!  misread Konqueror for Krusader!!!!!17:30
TheGentlemanby the way....  krusader is a far better file manager than konqueror17:30
DfizzleI'm having problems enabling compiz on 8.04.. I installed compiz through system->desktop effects. Then installed compizconfig-manager, then typed on konsole compiz --replace, but I am not having the effects :| Can anyone help17:33
BluesKajDaisuke_Ido, you around ?17:35
will00how would i go about setting up kubuntu so that i could access my movies over the network from my ps3?17:39
ABEYhow to be an ubuntu ambassador?17:42
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robotgeekwill00: how do you access the files on the ps3 now?17:44
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will00so far i cant17:46
will00iv got the samba server installed now, so im gonna go check if that did anything17:46
contrast83Greets, everyone...17:47
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contrast83Anyone know of a way to restore a partition table without formatting the drive it's on? The power went out when I was repartitioning my HD and know I'm kind of at a brick wall.17:48
kubuntuhow do i play dvd on kubuntu 8.0417:49
Leeuwis there a way to reset kubuntu to its 'factory settings" ?   (ie reinitialise network, hardware, services etc)17:49
contrast83kubuntu: KMenu -> System -> Konsole -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:49
arrrghhhkubuntu, get kubuntu-restricted-extras17:49
BluesKajkubuntu, make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed17:49
contrast83BluesKaj: I thought you didn't need that anymore with Hardy?17:50
robotgeek!medibuntu17:50
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org17:50
flipstaronly if it's css protected i think17:50
kubuntui have restricted extraa but where do i get  libdvdcss217:50
contrast83kubuntu: ^17:50
will00robotgeek: so far i cant, so i dont know how to get that working17:50
robotgeekBluesKaj: i am guessing that libdvdcss2 is only available in medibuntu, (see also kubuntu )17:50
BluesKajcontrast83, not aware of that , I thought it was still required17:51
robotgeekwill00: how do you access it now, say from linux?17:51
contrast83Leeuw: Not that I'm aware of, without a clean reinstall at least. I'd recommend making a seperate partition for /home if that's the route you decide to take, so next time all your personal files and settings will still be in place.17:51
will00oh i go /media/Movies17:51
arrrghhhhey so i got x11vnc running at startup on my kubuntu install but i can't remember how i did it... it's not in ~/.kde/Autostart, /etc/init.d, /etc/rc.local, any of the /etc/rc.*d files... i don't remember how i added it to the startup now!17:51
valeaca puedo hacer preguntas?17:51
will00its /dev/sdc1 mounted on /media/Movies17:51
robotgeekwill00: you are running linux on your ps3?17:51
will00no17:51
BluesKajkubuntu, Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.17:51
contrast83arrrghhh: /usr/share/autostart?17:51
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contrast83arrrghhh: And you are closing it before you log out, right?17:52
Jucato!autostart17:52
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html17:52
contrast83arrrghhh: And just FYI, /etc/init.d/ only contains scripts for when your computer's booting up and shutting down, not for when you log in. ;-)17:52
arrrghhhah good to know17:52
arrrghhhi was just checking places i thought it could be started..17:53
Leeuwcontrast83: I have a seperate home, also a separate usr; will that effect in also having all my extra programs still there ?   And do I have to do anything special except for mounting the partition as home again (and usr if it' s possible) and not format it ?17:53
arrrghhhand it's not in /usr/share/autostart...17:53
robotgeekgotta go now, later. (/away 's)17:53
Jucatoarrrghhh: if you left it open when you logged out, it will be restarted when you login17:53
contrast83Leeuw: Well, I'd recommend formatting /usr when you reinstall, just to make sure you clean out whatever's causing you problems.17:54
arrrghhhi have it create a fresh desktop every time tho17:54
parancontrast83: you can use the package "gpart" to search your devices for filesystems and guess what the partition table should be17:54
arrrghhhi don't have it restore programs by default17:54
contrast83paran: Awesome, thanks a lot... I was wondering if gparted would do it.17:54
arrrghhh"start with empty session" is what i have it set to17:55
parancontrast83: not gparted, this is another program17:55
Leeuwcontrast83: that makes sense, but would make for a lot of hassle...  but I could live with that..   Another question: if I give same user and same password at install, will the original home-folder still beaccessible by that user, or will it be a 'user1' added to original 'user' (like windoze) ?17:55
contrast83paran: Ahh, ok... Installable from the live CD?17:55
contrast83Leeuw: Still accessible... Are you familiar with apt-get dselect-upgrade?17:56
parancontrast83: it is probably not on there, but as long as you have network you can just apt-get install it17:56
Leeuwcontrast83: also, if all settings from home are still there, couldn' t the problem be in there ?17:56
contrast83paran: Right... Sweet, thanks.17:56
arrrghhhhrm seems i can't continue troubleshooting now... thanks tho i'll use that webpage for reference17:56
Leeuwcontrast83: not familiar17:56
Leeuwcontrast83: I installed a fresh hardy17:57
contrast83Leeuw: Possibly. What exactly is the problem?17:57
Leeuwlet me copy the specified question that describes it, just a minut17:57
Leeuwcontrast83: this is it: I ticked to 'off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot' , it had a warning that after changing the system it could break things; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find tha17:57
Leeuwcontrast83: I don' tknow if it IS related to that particular setting, could be something else, just my strongest hunch17:58
contrast83Leeuw: Try moving ~/.kde to ~/kde, log out and in, and see if the problems persist. That'll reset the settings for KDE (and *all* KDE programs) to the defaults.17:59
Leeuwcontrast83: I googled for it aand asked several times here, no solution, that's why I thought reset and get it over with17:59
contrast83Leeuw: I'm pretty sure that would fix it.17:59
BluesKajLeeuw, you can start with , sudo dpkg --configure -a to see what pops up if anything18:00
contrast83Leeuw: If there are any KDE programs whose configs you're confident are okay, you can just copy them back into ~/.kde/share/config (rc files) and ~/.kde/share/apps (program folders)18:00
Leeuwcontrast83: That is a GREAT suggestion, I will try that; eh, sudo dpkg --conf etc does what ?18:00
contrast83BluesKaj: How would a setting he changed in KDE affect package management? -_~18:01
LeeuwBluesKaj: h, sudo dpkg --conf etc does what ?18:01
BluesKajcleans up hanging dependencies18:01
contrast83Leeuw: That's just a lower-level form of apt-get install -f for when that fails. It basically tries to resolve any issues with broken packages and dependencies, but I don't know what that would have to do with your problem.18:02
LeeuwBluesKaj: that should fix stuff too.. will try both18:02
BluesKajwell, if he was installing updated pkgs with the cd or the net install18:03
contrast83Dselect Magic Trick for when you have to reinstall (requires a seperate home partition): 1) before reinstall: /home/leeuwdpkg --get-selections > ~/installed-packages 2) after reinstall: dpkg --set-selections < /home/leeuw/installed-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade18:03
contrast83Run the ones in (2) as root (sudo su) - sudo alone doesn't work with redirects (<, >)18:03
contrast83apt-get dselect-upgrade is quite a gem. Seems not many people know about it, sadly.18:04
contrast83Synaptic actually provides somewhat of a frontend for it - it can save the package states to a file (as in step 1), then read the markings from the file and you can apply them from there (as in step 2)18:05
contrast83Well I'm off to fix my friend's computer before she kills me. Thanks again, paran18:07
contrast83Peace, y'all.18:07
Leeuwcontrast83: BluesKaj will try first the 'reset, if that doesn' t do it the dpkg thing (might do that anyway, couldn' t hurt right ?), and see what gives...   Thanx for advice, have to go in a minute, will try in a couple of hours and let you know if still there, thanx !18:08
BluesKajok Leeuw, good luck !18:09
LeeuwBluesKaj: :-D18:09
DfizzleI just took nvidias newest drivers in use, but now I can't change my resolution bigger than 1024x768 o_o help >_>18:11
Dfizzle..atleast compiz works >_>18:11
martijn81Dfizzle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg18:13
Dfizzlemartijn81: what here :-d18:14
Berzerkercan hardy read HFS OTB?18:14
Berzerkerah, apparently it can18:15
nonewmsgswith the new "/home is safe" feature i can just install hardy to the same partition gutsy is on and it's smart enough to replace all the / directories but leave /home alone?18:15
Berzerkerhow would I have other volumes shown on the desktop?18:16
abeyI-)18:18
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Berzerkeranyone?18:18
flipstar!icons | Berzerker18:18
ubotuBerzerker: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)18:18
psycoHye, where do I get mp3 codec??18:18
DfizzleAnyone else having resolution problems with new nvidia drivers?18:18
psyco!mp318:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:19
sigma_1234i can't get my refresh rate to stay at 75 hertz18:19
dontpanicAre there any known issues with kubuntu 8.04 w/ kde4?18:19
Berzerkerflipstar: doesn't show about volumes (I'm on KDE)18:20
Berzerkeronly trash18:20
Black_Monkeyhi, I've suddenly got no sound (even after reboots) - checking /proc/asound/modules shows snd_hda_intel, when I've got an nvidia integrated sound card - could this be the problem?18:20
Black_MonkeyI'm fairly sure I had sound just after upgrading to hardy, but now none :/18:21
sigma_1234if you logout with nvidea drivers from kde 4 the screen just goes blank18:21
Berzerkersigma_1234: probably why KDE4 hasn't been released yet18:22
sigma_1234so true! at least it will be fixed in kde 4.118:23
flipstarBlack_Monkey: seems to be an bug since much people report this see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/20033818:23
Black_Monkeyah, thanks18:24
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BerzerkerKubuntu is officially awesome.18:25
BerzerkerMy eSATA ExpressCard adapter works out of the box.18:25
BerzerkerHow amazing is that.18:25
psycolmao gj18:25
psycoits good to make stuff official18:25
dfizzlehow can I edit some text file without x server? (yes,.. I messed up something ;D)18:25
BerzerkerIt would be even more awesome if I could get the mounted volumes to show up on the desktop18:26
flipstardfizzle: nano for e.g18:26
flipstarhow can i enable this icon ? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Green+Round+KMenu+Button?content=5158318:26
nhnFreespiritis there an easy and safe way to roll bak from hardy to gutsy? on y laptop, hardy is unusable as it hard freezes every 10-20 minutes. Gutsy ran perfetly18:26
flipstarnhnFreespirit: nope you can't downgrade18:27
|Torg|can someone help me in determineg why my boxes show differing ammounts of memory (free, top etc). two systems have 4G, the os reports 2.5G on one and 3G on another18:27
nhnFreespiritflipstar: I have tried pretty muh everything, and it still hangs18:27
nhnFreespiritits ompletely unusable .-(18:27
nhnFreespiritcompletely*18:28
Berzerkerdoes Desktop Effects work properly in Kubuntu?18:29
Berzerkeror will I need to manually install compiz18:29
emilsedghBerzerker: in 8.04 it works i think.18:32
BerzerkerI installed it from the window, and did extra effects, but nothing happened18:33
jmichaelxanyone else experiencing weird problems with amarok in hardy? for me, it keeps 'updating the collection' over and over, and lists every track twice. any suggestions?18:33
jmichaelxberzerker, did you restart X?18:33
Berzerkerah18:33
Berzerkerno18:33
Berzerkerbrb18:33
Jahootydoes anyonek now anything about the Atheros AR5007 wireless device?  i'm having troubles getting it to work in linux18:35
Berzerkerstill nothing18:35
kubuntuhow do i permananty mount an ntfs drive when the device node changes everytime i boot18:35
kubuntucan someone help me with mounting an ntfs drive18:37
nosrednaekim!ntfs18:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE18:37
|Torg|can someone help me in determineg why my boxes show differing ammounts of memory (free, top etc). two systems have 4G, the os reports 2.5G on one and 3G on another18:41
dewittI installed kubuntu 8.04 now i can't get video on line. what can i install to make this happen18:44
nosrednaekim|Torg|: #1... it could be a 32 os, and second.... the BIOS could be limiting it18:45
nosrednaekim*32 bit18:45
nosrednaekimdewitt: such as flash?18:45
dewittyes18:46
nosrednaekim!flash'18:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flash' - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi18:46
nosrednaekim!flash18:46
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash18:46
Berzerkeranyone know of a GUI Synaptics touchpad manager?18:46
nosrednaekimqsynaptics18:46
nosrednaekim!info qsynaptics18:46
ubotuPackage qsynaptics does not exist in hardy18:46
nosrednaekim!info qsynaptic18:46
ubotuPackage qsynaptic does not exist in hardy18:46
BerzerkerE: Package qsynaptics has no installation candidate18:46
nosrednaekimhum... maybe not :P18:46
jmichaelxanyone else experiencing weird problems with amarok in hardy? for me, it keeps 'updating the collection' over and over, and lists every track twice. any suggestions?18:47
Berzerkergsynaptics installes, but it's for gnome18:47
Berzerkerinstalls*18:47
nosrednaekimBerzerker: yeah... gsynaptics should work18:47
nosrednaekimjmichaelx: yeah... erase your .kde/share/apps/amarok18:47
nosrednaekimcourse.. that will delete your playlists, etc18:47
Berzerkernice18:48
Berzerkerit worked18:48
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Berzerkerhow I just need to get this nvidia driver working18:48
Berzerkerhow do I tell if I'm using it or not, and how can I switch to it if I'm not.18:48
nosrednaekimBerzerker: use the restricted hardware manager18:48
nosrednaekimunder system18:48
jmichaelxnosrednaekim: it'll probably erase all the podcasts i subscribe to as well, huh?18:49
linuxguymarshallI just upgraded to 8.04 and now I cant use adept. I know what I need to do but I forgot the exact command. I think it is something like : "sudo apt-get dkpg --configure -a" but i'm not sure18:50
babeckDoes anyone know of a way to change the text color for the input area of the twitter plasmoid?18:50
nosrednaekimjmichaelx: yeah.. probably18:50
jmichaelxlinuxguymarshall: sudo dpkg --configure -a18:50
nosrednaekim!aptfix18:50
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:50
linuxguymarshalljmichaelx: I get this feed back: "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"18:51
jmichaelxlinuxguymarshall: enter the command that the bot gave you18:52
Black_Monkeynosrednaekim: I deleted the .kde/share/apps/amarok folder, and still have the same problem...18:52
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nosrednaekimdid you report a bug?18:53
Black_Monkeyno, only just noticed it18:53
Berzerkerso how would I use the nvidia driver18:53
nosrednaekim!nvidia18:54
ubotuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:54
jmichaelxBlack_Monkey: you must be having the same problem i am having18:54
Black_Monkeyyeah18:54
Black_Monkeyand also, as I said earlier, I'm not getting any sound... and it looks like the bug report flipstar posted is only for older kernels...18:55
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jmichaelxi am not going to delete /.kde/share/apps/amarok. it isn't worth it to have to redo everything. surely a fixed amarok will come down the line soon.18:57
xenolhello, plz how can i stop the init script from starting at machine boot up?18:58
jmichaelxi may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the amarok i have installed came down from medibuntu, which i found odd18:59
p_quarlesxenol, that is a very strange question -- why do you want to do that?19:00
flipstar(how) can i change the kmenu background ?19:00
p_quarlesflipstar, you can find out by running 'apt-cache policy amarok'19:01
flipstarrly ?19:01
Berzerkerhow can I install beryl on hardy?19:01
p_quarlesflipstar, sorry, typed your name by mistake19:02
flipstarnp :)19:02
xenolp_quarles: cause i want to have them under control19:02
p_quarleswas meant for jmichaelx19:02
SlimeyPeteBerzerker: why beryl? Beryl's been dead for months19:02
BerzerkerI remember it worked better than compiz19:02
Berzerkerand compiz is shotty on 8.04 now.19:02
SlimeyPeteBerzerker: compiz is also dead. Compiz-fusion is default on hardy and it is the offspring of beryl and compiz.19:03
ejupinWhen I start kde4 i get a black screen, however I can hear sound so it is starting. I must a wrong setting?19:03
jmichaelxyes, it appears that amarok came from medibuntu... i wonder if downgrading to the actual canonical package would fix things19:03
jhutchinsSlimeyPete: actually, according to the web site, Compiz is not dead.19:03
BerzerkerSlimeyPete: what's what I meant.19:03
Berzerkerthat's*19:03
jmichaelxsometimes medibuntu screws things up19:03
BerzerkerI just called it compiz for short.19:03
BluesKajhmm I have an app installed , followed the instructions for it to decode the inputfile as described the tutorial , but the app doesn't recognize the input file ...it worked ok on gutsy19:05
martijn81how many users are using kde4 already?19:05
martijn81can't we organize a poll for this somewhere?19:06
TimSOdd. I had Firefox 2 and 3 installed, when I upgraded to hardy everything was fine, till I ran firefox 2, it update to 3. Since then, I cant use flash anymore19:07
TimSAh, no wories, removed firefox and firefox-2, now I just have firefox 3 and it works fine =]19:09
FujisanS=)19:10
Fujisanfree19:10
Fujisansoftware19:10
gon_weather19:14
gon_!weather19:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:14
Fujisan!Seveas19:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seveas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi19:14
gbrgvscannot connect to wireless network; message: "wireless radio off"19:14
flipstarthat's wired it says i should put a picture in $KDEHOME/share/apps/kicker/pics but this dir doesn't exist19:14
gbrgvscannot connect to wireless network; message: "wireless radio off"19:16
khaleel5000hello, I have a dell xps M1530, I have heard from a friend that Ubuntu has great support for dell XPS [I am already a linux user-I like perfer KDE] so I am just verifying,By getting kubuntu  will I get the same stuff as in ubuntu but my instead of gnome, i will get kde ?19:17
flipstarexact19:17
harleythat's right khaleel19:17
dekany idea what package I need to install to get man pages for thread functions, like pthread_create?19:22
roogerhello?19:24
harleyhi19:25
roogerhaving a prob installing19:25
harleywhat's the prob?19:25
khaleel5000flipstar: harley Many many thanks guys19:25
roogerwont partition19:26
roogeron an ibook19:26
harleyoooh, soz I can't  help19:26
* rooger tried powerpc room but there no help19:26
martijn81rooger: watch out with that, is it an intel?19:26
roogerno19:26
martijn81ok, then you are fine :)19:26
roogerno im not fine and im beginning to wonder if its worth all this hassle19:27
roogeri keep hearing about how great it is but i cant get it to install19:27
martijn81rooger: how is your partition table looking now?19:28
roogerim trying to duel boot with mac x, got 4 partitions 1 with over 10 gigs of space but gparted says my free space is unavailable19:29
psycoAnyone know movie making software for kubunut?19:29
psycokubuntu*19:30
TheCobraHi there19:30
dwidmannhihihi19:30
TheCobracan somebody help me19:30
psycohowdy19:30
psycowe might19:30
TheCobrajust installed Kubuntu 8.0419:30
anabainwhy can't I upgrade mu kubuntu since two or three days ago?19:30
TheCobrabut i'm in a resolution of 800x600 :s19:30
dwidmannanabain: the servers are under *very* heavy load19:31
jarleis it possible to upgrade a 32 bit system to a 64 bit system just using apt-get or would that require a re-install?19:31
dwidmannjarle: reinstall19:31
anabainok dwidmann19:31
jarledwidmann: and not even being able to use the upgrade function on the CD?19:32
dwidmannjarle: going from 32-bit to 64-bit requires a reinstall, period.19:32
Jack111hi can anybody help me? i dont get skype installed, complaints about broken package19:33
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martijn81rooger: then you need to shrink another partition to make some space for a new one19:34
dwidmannJack111: try "sudo apt-get -f install"19:34
martijn81rooger: you can have four primary partitions19:34
roogerbut the largest of the others is only 628 mb!19:35
roogerlol19:35
Jack111dwidmann: yep, that cleans it, but i still cannot install skype afterwards19:35
martijn81rooger: then you have to shrink a bigger one19:35
roogerok, now how do i do that/19:36
rooger?19:36
dwidmannJack111: what complaint does apt/dpkg make about it?19:36
martijn81rooger: on which can miss like 15GB, 5 for home, 10 for root and the rest19:36
roogeronly have 10+ free19:36
martijn81give me a picture of gparted and i'll tell you19:36
dwidmannrooger: if you've got spare cash hard drives are pretty cheap - could be worth the investment19:37
martijn81imageshack can help you with an picture19:37
roogerill bbl and tell ya if it worked martin thanx19:37
Ketrelhow can I edit an enviornmental variable permanantly (and not using bashrc or /etc/profile)?19:38
dwidmannKetrel: I'd use /etc/environment, but that's just me19:38
Jack111dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8391/ if you could look at at for a sec, thx19:39
martijn81ok19:40
talavishas there been any patches added to konqueror in the kde3 release?19:40
dwidmannJack111: are you installing from a repository?? Looks like a packaging messup ... Might be *easier* to install using the *.deb from the Skype website.19:40
martijn81dwidmann: he is on an ibook, an laptop....19:40
Jack111dwidmann: yes, i added one to the sources.list..19:41
Ketreldwidmann: trying that now19:41
dwidmannJack111: that or  there are two different versions, Is skype-common and skype the same version?19:41
dwidmannmartijn81: I presume that would make it non-compatible with other laptop hard drives? Or would it?19:41
Jack111dwidmann: apt-get shows me them as different ones, but only skype common doesnt work for me..so i installed the other one which triggered the complaint, i now did autoremove19:42
dwidmannmartijn81: If it's IDE or SATA could get a decent one off of newegg for cheap19:42
dwidmannJack111: I'd try removing both of them and then trying to install skype19:42
Jack111dwidmann: it says now same version is available in a software channel you are recommended to use that version19:44
KetrelDo I need to reboot or restart X for that to take effect dwidmann, or does it happen instantly?19:44
dwidmannKetrel: well, I'd try restarting X and see if that does it, if not rebooting definitely will.19:44
dwidmannJack111: Hmm?19:44
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Jack111dwidmann: i downloaded the deb, that i got that complaint but it seems install now19:46
dwidmannJack111: so has it install okay?19:46
DarkShinigamiWith Virtual Box, how do I use one of the OSs as my "foundation"?19:47
DarkShinigamiFoundation - the basis for which is ground zero of a new OS install19:48
KetrelUnrelated question, is there any way to get to a pure console?19:48
KetrelI tried choosing Console Login from the login screen, but X just seems to restart.19:49
DarkShinigamiCTRL+ALT+[F1-F6]19:49
Jack111dwidmann: still setting up19:49
fdovingDarkShinigami: copy the virtual disk-file?19:49
DarkShinigamifdoving: I have an OS just the way I want it for fresh installs. I want to keep duplicating this install if necessary.19:50
KetrelDarkShinigami was that at me?19:50
DarkShinigamiKetrel: Yes19:51
KetrelBecause pressing that just gives me a blank screen19:51
KetrelAnd I can't get back to KDM19:51
DarkShinigamiKetrel: You should be asked for login. If you want to return to a GUI, use [F7-F12]19:51
dwidmannKetrel: and if it doesn't seem to want to go back to kdm, you could try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"19:52
Ketrelctrl+alt+f9 brings me back to KDM, and I couldn't use the sudo command because I'm NOT getting a console, just a blank screen19:52
DarkShinigamidwidmann: That won't work if it's just a blank screen. He's not getting a logon screen.19:52
dwidmannDarkShinigami: not even on vt1-6? Ouch, well that just sucks to be Ketrel :(19:53
flipstarKetrel: maybe removing the vga=xxx line in menu.lst will get you the tty's back19:53
DarkShinigamiWell, yeah, but what can you do? Something seems to be off with video settings.19:53
DarkShinigamiI recall when CLI was huge, block text. It was like being zoomed into CLI's top left corner.19:55
Ketrelflipstar, I have not vga line19:55
DarkShinigamiCorrection, recall when MY CLI ...19:55
KetrelSo there's no way I can get to a console then?19:56
DarkShinigamiIf you are in GUI, why not use Konsole?19:56
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DarkShinigamiI use Yakuake, but it's still CLI19:56
flipstarKetrel: i know this must sound wired but maybe adding a vga=xxx line might help19:57
DarkShinigamiWell, time to go. Hope to return later. Thank you fdoving for the help19:57
flipstarKetrel: here are more tips: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/12991019:58
okvKetrel: I have the same problem19:59
okvKetrel: The problem started when I upgraded to 8.04.. I've tried everything but haven't managed to fix it yet20:00
okvKetrel: The problem seems to be somehow related to X, since I don't boot directly to X and the consoles work nicely after I boot. However, when I start x with "startx" command, all consoles stop working and I get blank screen and "no signal" on screen whenever I switch to CTRL+ALT+F1 or any other20:01
Ketrelokv, I'm going to assume it's a bug then, is it reported already?20:02
flipstarokv: i guess you didn't edited /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer ?20:02
okvKetrel: It's old bug that has been in older versions but has been reported to be "fixed" now, but it seems it's not fixed in many machines20:02
Ketrelso they're ignoring it then, or it just has to be reopened?20:03
okvKetrel: Some people reported that they have got it fixed when new version came out, for me it was opposite. It worked perfectly always before, but since I upgraded to 8.04 it stopped working20:03
flipstarit worked some time with this workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910/comments/277 but then it was fixed for me20:03
okvflipstar: I didn't edit those, was that also in that page?20:04
okvflipstar: I think the problem is different though, because they work perfectly after I boot, only after I start x they stop working20:04
flipstari had the same once20:05
Ketrelokv if that's the case, how could I get X not to start automatically?20:06
dwidmannokv: Ketrel what video cards & associated drivers do you use (I'm curious)20:06
Ketrelnvidia geforce go 6600 (or 6800, I forget) and whatever the most recent nvidia driver in Hardy is20:07
roogerok am back :)20:08
dwidmannKetrel: I've heard the mobile nvidia cards are a bit flakey when compared to their desktop brethren20:09
dwidmannKetrel: though, maybe using nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-new would help?20:09
okvKetrel: I can't remember. I googled for it before, it was by simlpy editing some file to prevent it from loading x automatically on boot.20:10
dwidmannKetrel: (nvidia-glx is a somewhat old snapshot comparitively speaking, but if it works better it could be worthwhile)20:10
okvKetrel: Maybe some other here remembers/knows how to make the system to boot without loading x automatically20:10
okvdwidmann: I have Intel 865VG or something like that, integrated graphics20:11
dwidmannokv: Ketrel: I'd probably stop kdm from starting, that'll stop x from starting, easiest way to do that would be to use sysv-rc-conf20:11
okvdwidmann: I don't know what drivers I use20:11
dwidmannokv: probably the "intel" driver20:11
dwidmannokv: you can kick yourself now :P20:11
okvdwidmann: Intel has commonly problems?20:12
dwidmannokv: I dunno20:12
okvdwidmann: Why the kick then? :)20:12
dwidmannokv: because it was soooo obvious20:12
flipstarbtw where can i edit single icon's ?20:12
okvYes I remember now, I stopped kdm from starting, can't remember how I did it though20:12
okvdwidmann: Which is obvious?20:12
dwidmannokv: that you would be using the "intel" driver wit the Intel 865VG card.20:13
okvdwidmann: Well, I don't know how many different drivers there are and how they are named.. I didn't know there is one single "intel" drivers for all intels, if that's the case20:13
okvdwidmann: But now I know :)20:13
dwidmannokv: well, there used to be an "i810" driver, I don't know if it's completely deprecated or not, or if it's still used for those really old ones ...20:14
okvdwidmann: I don't remember ever selecting a driver, except once for the X..20:14
okvdwidmann: I guess it does it automatically20:15
dwidmannflipstar: icons? /usr/share/icons???20:15
Ketrelwell I'm going to be shopping for food soon, I'll ask again when I get back about stopping x from starting automatically20:15
okvAnyways, I just did some changes from the page flipstar gave, so I'll test if console started working, rebooting ->20:15
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Ketrelok I'll wait that long20:18
flipstardwidmann: hm no gui for that? becorse i just installed an icon pack and would like to change a few20:18
okvflipstar: It didn't help20:19
okvCTRL+ALT+F1 and others still result in black screen / no signal20:19
flipstarokv: then url with the comment i posted ?20:19
okvflipstar: yep20:19
flipstarbtw you'r monitor says 'no signal' ?20:20
shadowboxis libdvdcss2 still the file to have to view dvd's?20:20
dwidmannflipstar: well, that's where it puts the icons, you can edit them with whatever you want, and you could get to /usr/share/icons with dolphin/konqueror/etc of course20:20
okvflipstar: Yes, my monitor says "no signal"20:20
okvflipstar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910/comments/277 <-- this is what I tried, did all the edits mentioned there20:20
ScorpKinghow do i import outlook emails into kmail or thunderbird? i've tried all the options in kmail but it only supports outlook express. thunderbird can't seem to import the emails at all. any ideas?20:20
dwidmannshadowbox: only commercial encrypted ones20:20
shadowboxI cant find it in adepts manager20:20
dwidmannshadowbox: grab it from medibuntu20:21
ScorpKinghiya dwidmann :)20:21
okvA weird thing, maybe worth mentioning, is that it changes the fonts into very strange thin ones while booting, the consonle normally even doesn't look like it used to20:21
dwidmann!css20:21
shadowboxI thought I had it installed20:21
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs20:21
dwidmannHey ScorpKing20:21
shadowboxk9copy better than Thoggen?20:21
JoshOvkiScorpKing: you taken a look at this    http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php   ?20:22
ScorpKingheh. i'm also having trouble copying dvd's20:22
ScorpKingJoshOvki: one sec. looking now20:22
KetrelWhat's Medibuntu?20:22
shadowboxfirst I've heard of it20:22
Ketrelunless20:22
Ketrel!Medibuntu20:22
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org20:22
okvI noticed another problem which stopped working with 8.04, beside the console and opera/flashplugin, also it seems mplayer plugin for firefox is not able to play streaming videos anymore, it was able to do it under 7.04 and 7.1020:22
flipstarokv: wired with the no signal one else i would mentioned you could run setupcon in a tty20:22
okvflipstar: I could do that, as consoles work fine until I start x20:23
ScorpKingJoshOvki: thanks. it's just what need :)20:23
okvflipstar: When I boot my machine, it doesn't start x directly, and initially all CTRL+ALT+F2 etc work perfectly20:23
okvflipstar: They only stop working after I startx20:23
apache-n00bflipstar: You could not help me right? :P i got banned from apache channel because they could not help me :D20:24
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flipstarlol oO20:24
MilitantPotatoAnyone else have shutdown problems with FGLRX in hardy?20:24
apache-n00band nobody is answering in ubuntu-server20:24
ScorpKing!ask | apache-n00b20:24
ubotuapache-n00b: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)20:24
shadowboxubuntu help pages suck when a newbie has Kubuntu20:24
shadowboxlol20:24
dwidmannMilitantPotato: think I talked to someone yesterday and they were having similar issues.20:25
MilitantPotatoSomeone posted a link that fixed it20:25
flipstardwidmann: there are not the icons i installed and in the .tar.gz package are only wired .svgz files20:25
dwidmannshadowbox: some of them do, many of them are still applicable20:25
apache-n00bflipstar: I cannot fix this. It is impossible it seems. I want to override the apache thinking to proceed even if it does not find a index file or Indexing.20:25
ScorpKingapache-n00b: a few people here use apache so explain your problem. maybe someone can help20:25
apache-n00bScorpKing: Yes, I am tryng to ;)20:26
MilitantPotatohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/3220:26
* ScorpKing waits..20:26
MilitantPotatoFixed my fglrx shutdown hang20:26
apache-n00bWould be glad if you do not ban me if I got annoying.20:26
dwidmannflipstar: ah, then that's wherever you put them ..... so, you'd probably want to edit them with something like inkscape then20:26
shadowboxI'm copy & pasting the commands they tell me to put into konsole and konsole tells me command not found20:26
shadowboxsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh20:27
victorvallare you freaks?20:27
ScorpKingapache-n00b: follow the COC and you won't be banned20:27
dwidmannMilitantPotato: good to hear that there's a fix, I'll pass that along when I see him again20:27
apache-n00bWhen I am going to /var/www (http://localhost) I got 403, Forbidden. Because it cannot find any index file, and indexing is turned off. I want the request to go forward to my .htaccess file which handle the request to /var/www/www/default.php20:27
JoshOvkivictorvall: yes thank you20:27
shadowboxyeah, baby20:27
apache-n00bScorpKing: COC?20:27
victorvallLOL20:27
ScorpKing!coc > apache-n00b20:28
apache-n00bHere is my htaccess file: http://pastebin.org/3239920:28
victorvallI'm too :P20:28
MilitantPotato!coc > MilitantPotato20:28
DexterFhi20:28
JoshOvkii have never acctualy read the CoC20:28
apache-n00bHere is what happening when I am going to root folder: http://pastebin.org/3237920:29
ScorpKingapache-n00b: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is where the default site config is.20:29
DexterFcan someone tell me why copying a file to an NFS server draws almost all cpu power on a 2.2GHz chip?20:29
apache-n00bScorpKing: Yes I know ;) Thanks anyway :)20:29
apache-n00bScorpKing: I want to config so it could handle my request correct. I have Override All20:29
ScorpKingapache-n00b: you can change /var/www/ to /var/www/www/20:29
apache-n00bScorpKing: That would break my structure. My framework would not work.20:30
sergumahello20:30
dwidmann!investigate20:30
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.20:30
sergumaanybody there is willing to help me with a little problem?20:30
apache-n00bScorpKing: I want the request always to proceed. This problem only happens if rewrite uri goes / only20:30
JoshOvkiserguma: ask the problem and people will help20:31
sergumaok :), just trying to be polite20:31
sergumaheheh20:31
JoshOvkiserguma: fair enough, no one else is tho ;)20:31
ScorpKingapache-n00b: i would just put a link or index file in /var/www/ that points to /var/www/www/. also make sure all files in /var/www/ belongs to www-data20:31
flipstarapache-n00b: maybe make a link to /www/default.php ?20:31
flipstardang too slow20:31
apache-n00bScorpKing: Would not work at all. I shall explain why, just a sec20:32
apache-n00bflipstar: Same there.20:32
sergumawell, my problem is that since I reinstalled kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 mix i can no longer execute some programs as superuser20:32
sergumafor example, if I write sudo dolphin on the console20:32
sergumaserguma@serguma-desktop:~$ sudo dolphin20:33
sergumasudo: dolphin: command not found20:33
sergumaif I only write dolphin everything is OK20:33
sergumathe same thing happens with kate, konqueror, etc...20:33
JoshOvkiwhats the graphical sudo command?20:33
dwidmannserguma: try kdesudo20:33
sergumaand I wanted to make some file managing with a graphic interface, but I can't20:33
apache-n00bWell, this is what happens if the request goes to /var/www/default.php directly: My framework would think the request is /www which means it is first searching for www module which does not exists. Then it looks for www controller which not exist either. Last step is to get index file in default module.20:33
DexterFKohlrabi: kdesu20:33
sergumadwidmann: same problem :(20:33
ScorpKingJoshOvki: or kdesudo20:33
sergumai've already tried20:33
KohlrabiDexterF: huh?20:34
ScorpKingheh20:34
dwidmannserguma: try adding /usr/lib/kde4/bin to your path20:34
DexterFKohlrabi: whoops. wrong nick20:34
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apache-n00bScorpKing, flipstar: So the ground model is like this: localhost/:module/:controller/:command/:params20:34
ScorpKingapache-n00b: why do you put everything in /var/www/www/ and not in /var/www/ ?20:34
apache-n00bThe framework is build upon the request. I must get the / uri to get startpage.20:35
dwidmannserguma: probably at the beginning of the path .... something like PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH in your ~/.bashrc20:35
DexterFserguma: kdesu. but I guess sudo expects the full path then. try sudo /usr/bin/dolphin. if that does it, file a bug.20:35
Berzerkerok20:35
Berzerkerwell20:35
Berzerkerapparently my sound doesn't work anymore20:35
sergumadwidmann: im a bit new at that :$20:35
DexterFBerzerker: the device numbering for sound cards changed, I think.20:35
dwidmannserguma: should be copy+pastable20:35
ScorpKingapache-n00b: hmm.. sorry but that's beyond me20:36
sergumaserguma@serguma-desktop:/usr/lib/kde4/bin$ kdesu /usr/bin/dolphin20:36
sergumasudo: /usr/bin/dolphin: command not found20:36
apache-n00bScorpKing: I do not put everything in /var/www/www. Structure is that everything in www folder under /var/www has default.php, images, css and so on. libs contains my framework Smash, and app contains my website, which means all controllers, modules, templates and so on.20:36
BerzerkerDexterF: ??20:36
sepeckdoes kubuntu have a built in firewall and if so where do I look for the configurations settings?  v8.,0.420:36
flipstarserguma: type which dolphin and then kdesu that path you gathered before20:36
DexterFBerzerker: used to start with 0, now its 1. you are talking about after an upgrade?20:37
Berzerkerno20:37
BerzerkerI just restarted before20:37
Berzerkerand now my sound doesn't work20:37
BerzerkerI'm on hardy20:37
DexterFBerzerker: more than one sound device? like onboard and card?20:37
Berzerkerwell I have onboard and line out20:37
sergumaserguma@serguma-desktop:~$ which dolphin20:37
serguma/usr/lib/kde4/bin//dolphin20:37
sergumaserguma@serguma-desktop:~$ kdesu /usr/lib/kde/bin//dolphin20:37
sergumasudo: /usr/lib/kde/bin//dolphin: command not found20:37
Berzerkerboth don't work20:37
dwidmannflipstar: seeing as it's dolphin we're talking about, and ?he's using kde4, it should definitely be /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin20:37
Berzerkerline out never worked20:37
martijn81sepeck: kubuntu comes with iptables, there are numerous GUI's to configure it20:37
Berzerker(I'm on a laptop)20:38
apache-n00bScorpKing: The funny thing is that I got this working before, but I do not remember how to. It is simple, that is for sure. It took ages to figure out whcih line I should edit before. But it was so long time ago I setup an apache server.20:38
BluesKajstrange i keep getting this error but the file is in the same dir as the app that I'm using to decode just as the tutorial instructs20:38
sepeckmartijn81,k, thanks.... googling away20:38
BluesKajconfig.status:625: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in20:38
sergumadwidmann: where should I copy paste those commands you told me before?20:38
martijn81sepeck: kmyfirewall is a well known20:38
sergumanot luck this far :(20:38
apache-n00bScorpKing: I thought it was AllowOverride All, but that only make .htaccess file possible, not the rest.20:38
sepeckmartijn81, first hit on google too20:38
dwidmannserguma: add it as a new line in your ~/.bashrc file20:38
martijn81but you have to have some knowledge of firewalles for that20:38
DexterFBerzerker: clueless. if there's an .asoundrc in home, rename it and see if you have sound then. if not, rename it back.20:38
sergumadwidmann: and where is it?20:39
sepeckmartijn81, geting my ssh server setup again to avoid that silly websebce proxy at work :)20:39
sergumain home?20:39
Berzerkerdon't see .asoundrc20:39
dwidmannserguma:  ~ = home20:39
sergumayeah, but using ls i don't see it20:39
dwidmannserguma: erm, ~ = $HOME20:39
dwidmannserguma:  it's hidden20:39
sergumaoops :$20:39
sergumasorry, i'm quite new20:39
sergumais it owned by system?20:39
apache-n00bScorpKing: Except this little issue, my framework is "perfect". Works like Zend Framework mostly.20:39
dwidmannserguma: files starting with a "." are hidden files20:39
dwidmannserguma: this one is owned by you.20:40
ScorpKingapache-n00b: all config is in /etc/apache2/. i also think you need to put www/ in front of anything you run in /var/www/www/. i'd start looking at the pages in /var/www/www/. they might try to access the files in /var/www/ wich does not exist20:40
BerzerkerDexterF: How would I go about reinstalling the sound drivers?20:40
sergumaok, thx :)20:40
ScorpKingi have to go. cheers guys and have fun20:40
dwidmannwill try scor20:41
DexterFBerzerker: not at all. either the kernel loaded the module or it didn't. lspci, see if it's there, then go hunting down which device a sound app tries to open with strace (see man page)20:41
apache-n00bScorpKing: I am using the moodule Rewrite inside my .htaccess file. Which process every single request to /var/www/www/default.php. Then inside default.php my framework decide what to do from the uri.20:41
Berzerkeraudio device is there20:41
sergumadwidmann: so I copy the lines at the beginning?20:41
dwidmannserguma: the end would probably be most appropriate20:42
sergumadwidmann: yeah, you're right20:42
sergumadone20:42
sergumawhat next?20:42
dwidmannserguma: log out, log back in20:42
rohanhow do i get cdrom's to mount at a specific location? whenever i insert a cdrom, it creates a new directory in /media, called "Transcend", or whatever the label of the CD is20:43
marc0shi20:43
sergumaok, brb :)20:43
rohancould someone please check their default fstab and tell me whether an entry for cdrom exists?20:43
marc0srohan: yes i have one for the cdrom20:43
DexterFI wonder if there will be an Ubuntu release ever that doesn't mess up somebody's sound20:43
DexterFI doubt it.20:43
rohanmarc0s: can you please paste that line20:43
rohanDexterF: which card do you have?20:44
marc0srohan: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       020:44
DexterFrohan: mine is fine, I didn't upgrade yet. Berzerker has issues with his laptop sound20:44
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rohanDexterF: sound, especially on laptops, is a very touch thing, agreed20:45
rohanmarc0s: thanks20:45
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DexterFfriend of mine had to reconf his after upgrading, too. and on 7.10. and 7.04. and 6.10. and 6.06 had issues right away.20:45
DexterFrohan: no other distro I use has so many device naming/numbering issues as Ubuntu20:45
dwidmannDexterF: That would be too nice20:45
JoshOvkimine sound worked fine after upgrading20:45
sergumaback20:45
rohanDexterF: what do you mean by naming numbering issues?20:46
dwidmannwb serguma20:46
JoshOvkithere is a bug that means my speaker control is controled by surround but thats nothing major20:46
serguma:( still doesn't work20:46
DexterFdwidmann: like: today we start counting at 0, tomorrow at 1. today we load module x first, tomorrow module y20:46
rohancan someone please confirm that "Safely Remove"ing pen drives on kubuntu 8.04 works? every time i try, i get "Safely unmounted, but could not eject", or some such20:46
flipstarserguma: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin doesn work but kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin not ?20:46
NyadHi. I am downloading the ISO for Hardy, but I don't have any CD's  is there away I can mount that ISO and install HARDY from it without using a CD?20:46
rohan!usb > Nyad20:47
DexterFrohan: possibly this means it cant eject because its no cd/dvd..?20:47
flipstar!install > Nyad20:47
rohanNyad: you can install using pen drive, which is exactly what i did :)20:47
BerzerkerDexterF: I got it20:47
DexterFBerzerker: what was it?20:47
rohanDexterF: then it shouldn't show that error20:48
BerzerkerDexterF: My Line channel was muted. :P20:48
DexterFBerzerker: dude. :)20:48
sergumaflipstar: the second one works now :S, perhaps I mistyped20:48
Nyadwould it work from a USB harddrive and not a flash?20:48
rohanDexterF: or, clicking on "Safely Remove" shouldn't try to eject20:48
DexterFrohan: sure right. bug?20:49
rohanNyad: it should, provided your computer is capable of booting from it20:49
marc0si'm having some "troubles" mounting via dolphin one volume, it asks me for the sudo password (it raises a kdesu window), how can i configure it to not ask for it, as is working now with usb drives?20:49
rohanDexterF: going to file one in a few minutes20:49
marc0si'm using hardy with kde420:49
flipstarcould someone please program an icon manager :/20:49
sergumawell, it looks like typing the full path without double bars at the end makes it work20:49
sergumashould I fill a bug report?20:49
serguma(and how do I do that?)20:50
Berzerkeroh wow20:50
Berzerkeraudio out works20:50
JoshOvkilol20:51
BerzerkerI think I got everything working20:51
Berzerkeramazing.20:51
JoshOvkiBerzerker: its improved your sound output has it?20:51
Berzerkerwhat has20:51
JoshOvkithe upgrade20:51
Berzerkeroh no20:51
JoshOvkijust hasnt broke it20:51
BerzerkerI installed hardy from scratch20:51
Berzerkeron a Macbook Pro20:51
BerzerkerI wanted to get optical out working20:51
JoshOvkiwow20:51
fleebailey33moooo20:52
fleebailey33nooo20:52
fleebailey33Berzerker, is here too20:52
Berzerkerlol20:52
* fleebailey33 cries20:52
fleebailey33im still banned from ##iphone btw. not like i care20:52
BerzerkerJoshOvki: everything works. Take it from me.20:52
Berzerkerfleebailey33: cool20:52
fleebailey33im going back to kubuntu20:52
fleebailey33i hate myself20:52
apache-n00bflipstar: Yeah, an icon manager would be awesome :P20:52
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Berzerkeractualyl20:53
BerzerkerI wanted to try and get iTunes working20:53
sergumadwidmann: looks like I solved my problem, more or less20:53
Berzerkerunder Wine20:53
Berzerkeris possible?20:53
dwidmannserguma: how'd ya do it?20:53
apache-n00bWould Dolphin handles tabs in the future? LIke in firefox?20:53
ses59_I wondered if anyone had any suggestions for a database for someone in the medical field to keep name and address with notes on treatments20:54
rohanapache-n00b: file a feature request?20:54
sergumadwidmann: i'm a bit of a dummy and I mistyped the direct route, so if i write kdesu /usr/bin/kde4/dolphin it works as intended20:54
sergumabut can't execute it like before, without typing the whole route20:54
apache-n00brohan: No I just wondered, I am too lazy. I heard or read it from somewhere. Just wondered if anyone could confirm.20:55
sergumamay I delete the line in .bashcr?20:55
Berzerkeranyone get their iphone working in linux20:55
flipstarrohan: where again ?20:55
dwidmannserguma: you may ... I still find it pecuiliar that it won't let you do it without the whole path though20:55
sergumayeah, I think the same :S20:55
dwidmannserguma: kdesu `which dolphin` would probably be less typing20:55
rohanflipstar: err what?20:55
godigyhello, i just installed kubuntu, but whenever my comptuer sleeps and i wake it up the screen goes wierd20:55
flipstarserguma: or just make an alias ;)20:56
flipstarrohan: where can we fill feature request again..?20:56
sergumathe thing is that it happens with all the system installed programs :S20:56
godigylike the whole screen gets squished and i have to restart x to set it right, does anyone know the solution to this or how to keep my computer from sleeping20:56
sergumanot with any that I installed20:56
sergumabut with the ones that came20:56
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: the suggestion made by contrast83 (rename .kde) to reset all settings worked; the bugs are gone !20:56
rohangodigy: have a look here -- http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/20:56
sergumais there a way to solve it globally?20:57
rohanflipstar: on the kde bug tracker - http://bugs.kde.org/20:57
serguma(how do I fill a bug report?)20:57
flipstarserguma: it's probably becorse wrappers for kde4 are still missing20:57
dwidmannserguma: go to www.launchpad.net and type in everything it asks you, and all you know about the problem.20:57
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: to remove the confusion: I took the chance to change my nick from Leeuw to Deepthought, cause Leeuw appeared to be taken according to nickserv20:57
dwidmannserguma: you'll have to create an account first.20:57
sergumawell, no problem, I'll create one20:58
sergumaby the way, can I ask you how to solve a unrelated problem?20:58
dwidmannsure20:58
Berzerkersigh20:59
BerzerkerLooks like I'll have to jailbreak my iphone20:59
sergumado you know why whenever I log out and log in again all the system tray icons are messed?20:59
dwidmannserguma: not a clue, what variety of messed up do they look like?20:59
sergumathey aren't show in the system tray, but in the desktop in the top left corner with a little box and all of them atop the other20:59
sergumashown*21:00
sergumai can log out and make a screenshot21:00
obvioupdating to hardy broke my vpn access. has anybody had the same problem?21:00
sergumaif log out and log in again all comes back to normal21:00
obviostarting kvpnc now just makes my whole wlan connection go dead21:00
BluesKajcool, Deepthought , glad to hear the settings worked ! :)21:00
dwidmannserguma: screenshot, that's worth a bug report too21:00
dwidmannserguma: kde4 is still full of a lot of problems .... nowhere near as mature as KDE321:01
sergumaok, i'll brb, first I want to show it to you to see if it's a known problem or not :S21:01
sergumadwidmann: yeah, I know, but if we don't test it it'll never be as good as KDE3 :P21:02
DeepthoughtBluesKaj:  yep, and it gives me the joy of tuning my rig all over again; plus the stress-relieving feeling that I can ' reset'  it if stuff gets weird...21:02
sergumabrb21:02
dwidmannserguma: that's true .... which is why I'm running KDE4 too (with a few KDE3 apps mixed in where I need them (ie: gwenview, knetworkmanager, konversation,amarok, kmix ....)21:03
marc0scan somebody point me out how to configure dolphin/kde/whatever not to ask for sudo password for mounting a disk partition (not an external disk but a sata drive)... with USB disks i have no problem...21:03
rohankde4 is meant to be "usable" from kde 4.1 onwards, but many people are already using it21:03
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: do you think it would be a good idea to check those broken dependencies still ?   Or is that best left to crisis-management situations (if it ain' t broke, don't fix it maybe)21:03
rohanmarc0s: use "visudo" and add the word NOPASSWD in the last line21:03
Deepthought/identify Deepthought moi21:03
marc0si can type in the password but afterwards i have to open dolphin with sudo...21:04
Deepthoughtjoin #nickserv21:04
rohanso, the last line will read - %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL21:04
marc0srohan: not a solution ... :)21:04
dwidmannrohan: without loads of bug reports though it might not quite get there by 4.1 though ...21:04
rohanmarc0s: why?21:04
Deepthought/nickserv21:04
marc0srohan: i don't want to run dolphin with sudo and not ask me a password for that21:04
dwidmannmarc0s: you'd have to edit your fstab, probably21:04
marc0swhat i want is to get the partition mounted as if it was an usb drive21:04
rohanmarc0s: ah ok..21:05
BluesKajDeepthought, there is a way in synaptic to fix broken packages , which from what i've been told is the same and safer than the command i gave you.21:05
SevenhillHi There21:05
rohandwidmann: it's a chicken-and-egg situation, sadly21:05
dwidmannmarc0s: add "user" to the options part of that line of your fstab( the one corresponding to that partition)21:05
marc0sdwidmann: so i understand that are not handled equally external and disk drives, right?21:05
Sevenhillis that console color bug fixed ?21:05
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: ehm, search for 'broken' , right ?21:05
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BluesKajDeepthought, in synaptic under edit/fix broken packages21:06
dwidmannrohan: kind of, and even at 4.1 there will still be  a lot of problems, I say 4.2 will be the more usable one (a lot of apps haven't made it in yet, but will be in at 4.1 .... they'll be needing lots of bug reporting love and will probably be straightened out by 4.2)21:06
Bauldrickim trying to mount a mac drive, but it only mounts read only? i want to write to it21:06
rohandwidmann: well, let's hope for the best :)21:07
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: ok, I' ll check it out.21:07
_sourcemakerare there newsgroups for kubuntu?21:07
dwidmannmarc0s: they're handle just the same for the most part21:07
sergumabackk21:07
dwidmannmarc0s: in fact, I can't think of any situations where they aren't21:07
rohanhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/223246 ---> i'd be thankful if someone can confirm this bug21:07
Sevenhillis there any devel channel for kubuntu ?21:07
flipstar_sourcemaker: there are severel mailing lists21:08
sergumadwidmann: bugs are really picky, happened everytime before, and now I'm not able to repro it :(21:08
sergumaperhaps next time I reboot21:08
coreymon77Sevenhill: yes, #kubuntu-devel21:08
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: Found it, clicked it, nothing happened; that means everything is in order, right ?21:08
Sevenhillcoreymon77: thx21:08
marc0sdwidmann: uhm... but my usb drives are mounted without typing in any sudo password... maybe it's an udev thing??21:08
coreymon77marc0s: usb keys are different than external hard drives21:09
kaminixStrange error when trying to mount an usb harddrive automaticall (by just plugging it in):  'A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")'21:09
kaminixThe device didn't mount correctly21:09
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dwidmannmarc0s: maybe,k iono21:09
coreymon77!paste | kaminix21:09
ubotukaminix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:09
kaminixUhm... isn't that for multiple lines only coreymon77?21:10
dwidmannserguma: funny how that works sometimes, but you can still make the bug without the screenshot and atttach the next time you're able to reproduce it21:10
BluesKajDeepthought, usually yes :)21:11
sergumadwidmann: I report it as a ubuntu bug? because I can't find the kubuntu option :(21:12
dwidmannserguma: right21:13
sergumadwidmann: do I mention any package?21:13
dwidmannserguma: I think the package would probably be kdebase-workspace-bin21:13
sergumano mention of kde4?21:14
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: gooood.   Still, very convenient stuff, synaptic and all that other ubuntu automagics; makes it much easier to handle.   But it' s really a pity it makes it harder to understand wht's going on behind all that, I wish now I had stuck around a little longer in one of those frustrating stone-age linuxes trhat I tried over the years, because I'm not that good at the terminal21:14
dwidmannserguma: that's the package that plasma (kde4 desktop & panel) is included in21:14
sergumadwidmann: ah, it's not the same for kde3?21:15
sergumasorry, still learning :$21:15
dwidmannserguma: most of the kde4 packages are marked with a -kde4 at the end, but not this one apparently.21:15
sergumadwidmann: ok, thanks :)21:16
Freddy2hi21:16
sergumadwidmann: do you think Not able to execute system programs as superuser from console is a good summary?21:16
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sergumai'm spanish and my English isn't quite as good as most of you, so I don't know if everything I write sounds right21:17
dwidmannserguma: that should work, be sure to get more specific in the actual message though21:17
dwidmannserguma: your English seems pretty good to me21:17
sergumadwidmann: thx :)21:18
Freddy2serguma: que te pasa? a ver, dile al chache fredi xD21:18
sergumaFreddy2: nada, aqui escribiendo un bug report, a ver si me apaño :S21:18
Freddy2anyway, can you add kde4 into a kde 3.5.x based version? (i mean, 8.04)21:18
dwidmannFreddy2: you can have both installed side by side21:18
Freddy2the goal is being able to select the one you prefer at.. kdm21:19
dwidmannyes to that too21:19
BluesKajDeepthought, the terminal is a an ongoing learning experience IMO and i don't think it will ever end for me either.21:19
eMaXhi all21:19
eMaXsince going to hardy, whenever i start an x program from konsole, it comes with no window decorations. starting from xterm works. any ideas anyone?21:20
DeepthoughtBluesKaj: you do have a point there... I know I' m getting somewhere with it from time to time, at least I CAN use it, wich is a lot more than most users that migrated from windoze21:20
acer4920selam turk varmı21:20
acer4920selam arkadaslar21:21
rohaneMaX: for example?21:21
pteague_laptopanybody know how to disable the touchpad tap is a click?  apparently mine is overly sensitive21:21
dwidmannpteague_laptop: I know how, one sec21:22
rohanpteague_laptop: using kubuntu, i think you'd need to edit xorg.conf21:22
pteague_laptopi'll be typing along & suddenly it decides to click on something... not fun ;)21:22
eMaXlike I start "xterm" out of "konsole". Now window border, no integration with display manager at all. I start xterm out of xterm, everything works.21:22
BluesKajDeepthought, yeah I think most of us did migrate from windows ...there some unix guys around but they're the old pros :)21:22
kaminixHow can I remove that really loud system BEEEEP which comes a little now and then whenever I get an e-mail and stuff like that.21:23
rohaneMaX: hmm no it's working fine here21:23
pteague_laptopyeah, i know i'll have to modify the InputDevice section for the synaptic touchpad, but not sure what i need to set it to21:23
JoshOvkii started on a BBC :)21:23
dwidmannpteague_laptop: add three lines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the Synaptics section, the first line is  ----- Option "TapButton1" "0"21:23
BluesKajkaminix, system settings/notifications/turn off all sounds21:24
dwidmannpteague_laptop: the other two lines will be the same, except use TapButton2 and TapButton321:24
sergumadwidmann: you told me to write sudo 'which dolphin' for example before, no?21:24
eMaXit seems to have to do with konsole. starting things from "start..." also works.21:24
rohanBluesKaj: no need to really turn off *all* sounds21:24
espereguhow to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?21:24
dwidmannserguma: kdesu21:24
pteague_laptopdwidmann> awesome, thanks :)21:24
dwidmannserguma: starting graphical apps with sudo is a bad idea, it can make it so you can't log in in bad case scenarios21:25
sergumadwidmann: you know the irony?21:25
dwidmannserguma: not yet21:25
sergumadwidmann: kdesu which doesn't work either21:25
acer4920#kubuntu-turkiye21:25
dwidmannserguma: !!21:25
dwidmannserguma: that sucks21:25
sergumayeah xD21:25
dwidmannserguma: pull up konsole and type "echo $PATH"21:26
sergumaerguma@serguma-desktop:~$ echo $PATH21:26
serguma/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games21:26
sergumaserguma@serguma-desktop:~$21:26
dwidmannWell, it's there, and it's first, I wonder why it's not finding the apps!21:26
espereguhow to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?21:27
david567hello, i need help with conky21:27
purpleposeidonWhat's the best mp3 player to buy?21:27
Freddy2xDD21:27
david567if i launch it without a .conkyrc file it works but in the bottom left area, if i use the sample .copnkyrc then the screen goes black and i am forced to remove power and reboot. any help?21:27
purpleposeidon!ipod21:27
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod21:27
sergumathe bug report is the following, is it OK?21:28
sergumaUsing Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE421:28
sergumaThe bug I encountered prevents me from executing any system preinstalled program as superuser from the console.21:28
sergumaFor example, if I want to open kate to edit a system file, and I type sudo kate I get a "command not found" message  (kdesudo kate or kdesu kate do the same thing).21:28
sergumaIf I write kate without the sudo part it works as intended, but without superuser privileges (obviously).21:28
sergumaThe same thing happens with dolphin, konqueror, etc.21:28
sergumaIf I type the direct route (found with the "which" command) everything works as intended, for example "kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin//kate" opens the program without a problem.21:28
Freddy2serguma: you should have used any paste website instead, such as http://www.rafb.net/paste21:29
sergumasorry, not used to irc :S21:29
dwidmannserguma: it's giving me a similar error, now that I look into it closer21:29
dwidmannserguma: kdesudo is telling me "command not found"21:29
sergumadwidmann: do you think the bug report is OK?21:30
dwidmannserguma: it should be, link me to it when you're done with it, I'd like to comment on it just to help seed the confirmation of it :)21:30
kaminixBluesKaj: But I want the normal sounds, just not the really loud system beep21:30
david567anyone knows how to help me?21:30
sergumadwidmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/22326421:31
david567or tell me where to find the basic config file for conky21:31
BluesKajsorry kaminix , dunno21:31
BluesKajkaminix, rohan , i don't like any of those sounds , so I just turn 'em all off  :)21:31
kaminixBluesKaj: Me neither really, but I like to hear when getting mail and stuff...21:32
kaminixGuess no sound is better than that though :p21:32
dwidmannserguma: I wonder where kdesudo is getting its path from.21:32
Freddy2then try kdesu echo $PATH, or something like that21:32
Odd-rationalekaminix: you want to turn off the beep for kmail only?21:33
melkarthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/196106 <-- could somebody explain to me why the reportedly uploaded packages are not yet available?21:33
Freddy2and check which user is being invoked every time you use kdesu, and where to redefine its path (assuming that's the problem)21:33
sergumadwidmann: to be honest i've been using windows my whole life, so I don't get the inner workings or linux yet :(21:33
dwidmannFreddy2: because it's not looking at /usr/lib/kde4/bin, which *is* in the $PATH21:33
sergumaof*21:33
kaminixOdd-rationale: No, I have a nice pling set for KMail, but it's played at the same time as a super loud system beep which just won't go away.21:33
Freddy2is  in the PATH for the current user, but kdesu will be executed by the superuser21:34
Freddy2it looks like that21:34
dwidmannFreddy2: kdesudo echo $PATH behaves as expected ... nothing abnormal, but it's not looking in /usr/lib/kde4/bin21:34
dwidmannFreddy2: you may have a point there, perhaps I need to add /usr/lib/kde4/bin to /etc/environment, though that will mess with my KDE321:34
Freddy2you may check it21:35
Odd-rationalekaminix: have you tried going to in kmail Settings --> Configure Kmail --> Accounts --> Receiveing --> Newmail notification and uncheck the "beep" check box?21:35
dwidmannbrb, going to reboot21:35
jonyi've just installed compiz fusion and ive realized that my inactive window decoration disappears when they are inactive why is that?21:35
kaminixOdd-rationale: Will you look at that! Thanks!21:36
Odd-rationalekaminix: np21:36
kaminixlol, what is up with the KGet sounds!? :D Sound of an explosion for 'all downloads are finished' :p21:37
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Deepthough1just testing21:38
jonycould anyone help me?21:38
espereguhow to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?21:38
JoshOvkijony: nope. because we dont know your problem21:38
JoshOvkioh yes we do i just cant read21:39
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jony[23:35] <jony> i've just installed compiz fusion and ive realized that my inactive window decoration disappears when they are inactive why is that?21:39
JoshOvkijony: i typed before i read sorry about that21:39
jonysorry for being such a trouble child i've just switched from windows to linux :)21:39
jonyso its kind of new to me21:40
Odd-rationalekaminix: there are ways to change the sound of the system beep...21:40
kaminixOdd-rationale: How?21:41
Odd-rationalefire up xterm and I'll show you...21:41
mckaycrhow do I perform an upgrade of kubuntu?21:41
Odd-rationale!upgrade21:41
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes21:41
hack00hi, how can i search for a file inside a package with apt-get?21:42
jonyit seems like they doesnt disappears totally, i can see thin contours21:42
sergumadwidmann: wb :)21:42
funkyjanssonjony! Could it be that you have different colors for inactive and active windows?21:43
sergumadwidmann: wb again xD21:43
Odd-rationalekaminix: konsole doesn't use the system beep (at least not by default) so you will have to experiment with another term suchas xterm, yakuake, or the built in terminal in konq...21:43
Odd-rationalekaminix: got one of those?21:43
dwidmannumm, nope, didn't work, not at all21:43
jonydoes compiz fusion adjust that aswell?21:43
b3lt3rcan anyone suggest why I cannot open a remote X session displaying back to my Hardy desktop - I have commented out the -nolisten tcp line in kdmrc?21:43
dwidmannI added /usr/lib/kde4/bin to /etc/environment and kdesudo still won't exec any kde4 apps without the full path :(21:44
kaminixOdd-rationale: I use yakuake, it doesn't make any sounds at all I think. Only problem left doing it now is probably konqueror21:44
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?21:44
Odd-rationalekaminix: even if you do bksp? on prompt?21:44
jonybecause i don't have that problem if i disable compiz21:45
bmk789it stopped working after upgrading to hardy21:45
kaminixOdd-rationale: Yup21:45
Odd-rationalekaminix: nay ways, try this in terminal: xset b 100 2000 2021:45
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funkyjanssonyeah, install emerald, sudo apt-get install emerald21:45
Odd-rationalekaminix: then see listen to the change in sound.21:46
funkyjanssonthere u can change stuff about the windowboarders21:46
spirooIt really sucks to be me. Nobody can help me anymore. I must help myself :'(21:46
sergumadwidmann: so no luck this far, no :)?21:46
kaminixOdd-rationale: nm, I had set it not to use system bell. Changed it to some cool visible bell now ^^21:46
dwidmannhmmm, this is interesting: dpkg: /usr/lib/kde4/bin//kdesudo not found.21:46
Odd-rationalekaminix: ok21:46
funkyjanssonkde-look.org, there u can download new boarders to use with emerald21:46
sergumadwidmann: so it's not in that path?21:47
Odd-rationalekaminix: here's some doc that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4075006&postcount=321:47
dwidmannserguma: no, just dpkg doesn't have any record of any package installing that file21:47
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?21:47
kaminixDirectory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777. <--- Why does it keep changing itself!?21:47
dwidmannwait, there it is, kdesudo-kde4, which was just being weird21:48
sergumahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8425/ no use for that, no?21:48
crash_ok. Got the WiFi card installed (I think). Now how the heck to I use it?21:49
cweagansOk, so I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu system. Then I installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop. How do I remove all the old kde3 apps?21:50
coreymon77crash_: what card?21:50
coreymon77cweagans: i wouldnt, there arent kde4 versions for everything yet21:50
crash_coreymon77: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335, or so claims lspci21:50
cweagansbut there are a lot of duplicates in the menu21:50
sergumadwidmann: one question, you asked me the link for the bug report before, you recieved it? you post a comment? (because I don't see one), just curious, it's my first report :)21:50
coreymon77crash_: do you have any idea of the chipset?21:51
funkyjanssonanybody know a commandline to switch the screen used? Got two screens - one is a 16:9 TV and the default one is 4:3. It messes up the grapichs.21:51
crash_coreymon77: that IS the chipset21:51
dwidmannserguma: well, I'll do that now, I was hoping I could find some sort of work around first, but no such luck21:51
sergumadwidmann: ok ^^21:51
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?21:51
funkyjanssongot a ati radeon x60021:51
cweaganscoreymon77: there are a lot of annoying duplicates in the menu though...is there a way to remove the kde3 versions of the duplicates? or do I have to do it manually?21:52
crash_coreymon77: if you're interested in the make /model, its a Zonet ZEW150221:52
coreymon77crash_: you installed the drivers already?21:52
crash_coreymon77: I was kind of hoping Kubuntu would have auto-installed something21:53
coreymon77crash_: well, the meta package contains all of the kde3 apps21:53
mckaycrwhy is gksu an unknown command?21:53
coreymon77crash_: whoops, wrong person21:53
coreymon77cweagans: that was for you21:53
coreymon77cweagans: meaning, that since there arent kde4 versions for everything, you would have to remove each of the apps you wanted to remove one by one with apt21:54
coreymon77crash_: well, lets find out, type iwconfig into console and see what it gives you21:54
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?21:54
crash_lo and eth0, both with no wireless extensions21:55
cweaganscoreymon77: alright. I guess I'll do that21:55
cweaganscoreymon77: thanks!21:55
mckaycrtrying to upgrade 6.06, gksu command not found???21:56
coreymon77mckaycr: what are you using gksu for?21:57
mckaycrtrying to upgrade21:57
dwidmannserguma: commented21:57
coreymon77ubuntu or kubuntu?21:57
mckaycrcoreymon77: kubuntu21:57
coreymon77crash_: okay, unfortunately, we have to use ndis for this21:57
sergumadwidmann: thanks :)21:57
coreymon77mckaycr: using what, adept?21:57
crash_ew21:58
sergumadwidmann: will they notify me if any solution is found?21:58
crash_NDIS21:58
crash_no linux native drivers then?21:58
coreymon77crash_: sorry21:58
mckaycrcoreymon77: using konsole "gksu "update-manager -c""21:58
crash_bah21:58
crash_I can handle an NDIS wrapper install and setup.21:58
coreymon77mckaycr: gksu is the gnome command21:58
crash_I was just hoping there were some new drivers out that no one had seen fit to mention.21:58
coreymon77mckaycr: its kdesu that you are looking fo21:59
coreymon77r21:59
bmk789Trevinho: are you THE trevino? with the thing over the n?21:59
coreymon77crash_: is this a lappy or a desktop?21:59
crash_lappy21:59
weswh-i'm building a new system...been running feisty on a 5 year old box for a long time, time to change...looking to get an intel dual or quad core processor - could anyone recommend some good motherboards? or good chipsets...things that work well with kubuntu obviously21:59
zorglu_so hardy got released?22:00
crash_yeah22:00
xenoli would like to ask in what ways is upstart better than the old sys V init?22:00
xenolzorglu_: yup22:00
crash_but adept crashes every time I try to install it22:00
zorglu_crash_: hehe ok :)22:00
coreymon77crash_: oh, well, i could suggest get a better card :P22:01
zorglu_i suggest runing it in a virtual box :)22:01
crash_coreymon77: what can I say man, it was a free laptop.22:01
mckaycrcoreymon77: I can't get 6.06 to upgrade, can I use adept?22:01
crash_I'll just take it apart and see if I have a better miniPCI card laying arounf22:01
Itakuon 8.04 how do i change the system beep?22:02
kmorrisseyhello all, has anyone had any experience with Linux Media Center (LinuxMCE)22:03
crash_*sigh*22:03
crash_!ndis22:03
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:03
coreymon77mckaycr: you cant upgrade from dapper to hardy directly, i dont think22:03
sergumawell22:03
sergumai'll be on my way22:03
sergumathank you everyone :)22:03
sergumadwidmann: thank you :)!22:03
mckaycrcoreymon77: I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to upgrade to 6.1022:04
b3lt3rcan anyone suggest why I cannot open a remote X session displaying back to my Hardy desktop - I have commented out the -nolisten tcp line in kdmrc?22:04
spirooOh please someone help me. I have searched on google for several hours, being kicked from apache channel because I was taking to much place and time from them, And in channel ubuntu-server nobody answer me at all anymore. What have I done to deserve this cruelness. I have not breaking any rule in whatsoever. Please, you are my last hope of glory. I really need my server to work correct :)22:05
spiroo*webserver22:06
coreymon77crash_: youre card is a mrv8k22:06
coreymon77crash_: you need to blacklist the including, non-working driver, and use ndis22:07
asterahello. has anybody experiences on ubuntu on ASUS A7S?22:07
Bauldricktrying to turn .m4p files to mp3's - any tips?? I can do .m4a but not m4p22:07
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?22:08
coreymon77crash_: i hate having to tell people to use ndis as much as you hate using it, but unfortunately, thats the way it is22:09
spirooI appreciate the help, thank you guys22:09
coreymon77i really dont know spiroo22:10
coreymon77what is your problem, if i know what to do, i will try to help, but, im not sure if i can22:11
spiroocoreymon77: Do you have time and experience with apache2? If not, you could probably not help me.22:11
coreymon77spiroo: nope, sorry22:11
asterathere are several probs. the first is i want to use my vmware files in ubuntu. do you know how??22:12
coreymon77astera: umm, vmware for linux?22:12
spiroocoreymon77: Its allright. Those who can apache2 cannot help me either. They do not understand what I am trying to do. So I am stucked with myself. I have been trying almost everything.22:12
malte_my gidness22:13
asterado i need a licenens for vmware in linux?22:13
JoshOvkiastera: yes22:13
astera:-))22:14
asteraare there any other options ;-)22:14
spirooHonestly, it REALLY sucks to be me. This always happening to me. I do not doing anything wrong, cannot find any solution at all and nobody understand me. Sorry if I feel sorry for myself at the moment. But really, this just stinks so hard.22:14
asterawhats about virtualbox?22:15
spirooI feel like a lost morron which nobody can handle at all.22:15
coreymon77spiroo: this isnt helping22:15
coreymon77astera: why not use vmware?22:15
algyzastera:  use vmware server, it's free22:15
JoshOvkiastera: virtualbox is free, although if you do install windows you need to have a licence22:16
asterabecause i have no license for linux22:16
JoshOvki(for the windows bit)22:16
spiroocoreymon77: I know, but it feels a little better.22:16
coreymon77astera: vmware player astera22:16
algyzserver :)22:16
algyzserver has more options ;)22:16
coreymon77either one works22:16
crash_coreymon77: Ok, HOW do I install and use ndis again?22:16
algyzAnd I think it's not very hard to register in their site to get free numbers22:16
asteravmware player for linux??22:16
RatshellHello anyone here use Kde4 with Compiz-Fusion?22:17
algyzastera:  vmware server ;)22:17
asterato use it in ubuntu?22:17
algyzyea22:17
coreymon77astera: yup, player is free, open source, and its on apt!22:17
asterathx22:17
spiroocoreymon77: The most funny of all time, is that I have been trying to fix this all day long. I should fix my webserver so I could work with my website. And the website need to be done really soon.22:17
algyzserver also22:17
coreymon77algyz: okay then, i dont do much virtualization on my linux box anyways, i do almost all of it on my dual core macbook22:18
asteraanother questions. on my notebook (Asus A7S) i have a TV Tuner, but in ubuntu i can find it. whre can i get driver for that?22:18
algyzastera:  lshw, maybe you'll see it22:19
astera??22:19
bmk789how do i fix my audio input?22:19
asterawhat do you mean?22:19
algyzastera:  I mean terminal ;)22:19
coreymon77bmk789: first you have to tell us whats wrong with it22:19
bmk789im getting no audio input22:20
algyz!sound | bmk78922:20
ubotubmk789: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP322:20
Berzerkeranyone have some kind of solution for playing iTunes songs on kubuntu?22:20
kaminixWhat's a good and simple to use FTP server for Kubuntu?22:21
asterasorry but I don know what you mean.22:21
kaminix!ftp22:21
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd22:21
algyzkaminix:  gproftp22:21
_eMaX_re22:22
kaminixalgyz: Thank you, I'll try it.22:22
_sourcemakeri have installed the new hardy on my dad's pc.... the wlan card is not detected... what's wrong?22:22
algyzkaminix:  gproftpd*22:22
algyzone letter :)22:22
weswh-is there a hardware guide for gusty/hardy etc?i can't find it22:22
_sourcemakeron gusty... the wlan was working fine22:22
coreymon77_sourcemaker: you mean the wifi card?22:23
kaminixalgyz: No other FTP server with a Qt interface perhaps? ^^ Suppose not. :p22:23
_sourcemakercoreymon77:yes22:23
algyzkaminix:  this one is good and easy to use ;)22:23
coreymon77_sourcemaker: which card?22:23
_sourcemakercoreymon77: i do not know...22:23
_sourcemakercoreymon77: nothing special22:23
kaminixalgyz: Yeah, I've used proftpd before, never tried the gui though. :)22:24
algyzkaminix:  apt-cache search ftp, also you can try with synaptic22:24
_sourcemakercoreymon77: integrated ide...22:24
Berzerker_sourcemaker: sudo update-pciids22:24
Berzerker_sourcemaker: then lspci22:24
crash_Heh. everyone should buy coreymon77 a beer. He seems to be the only knowledge source here today :P22:24
kaminixalgyz: Do I want to run it standalone or inetd?22:24
* crash_ buys coreymon77 a frosty adult beverage22:24
coreymon77crash_: thanks for the offer, but i cant drink yet :P22:24
crash_I... what?22:25
Berzerkerno one has an answer to my question?22:25
crash_Who says you cant drink?22:25
BerzerkerUS law.22:25
Berzerkerprobably.22:25
crash_piffle22:25
coreymon77Berzerker: close, but not quite22:25
crash_I was drinking  before US law permitted it.22:25
_sourcemakerBerzerker: is's a realteak semiconstructor22:25
_sourcemakerBerzerker: why are there always so many problems with wifi...22:26
Berzerkerbecause linux was never meant to support wifi22:26
coreymon77Berzerker: it works great with me22:27
kaminixalgyz: Never mind, running it inetd ^^22:27
Berzerkercoreymon77: I know it works, but it's not officially supported.22:27
coreymon77_sourcemaker: any idea what the card model is22:27
coreymon77Berzerker: yes it is, by now22:27
_sourcemakercoreymon77: it's a realtek22:27
BerzerkerMy drivers are still restricted.22:27
coreymon77Berzerker: or else we wouldnt be talking about it here22:27
coreymon77Berzerker: thats because most companies are arseholes and wont release open source drivers22:28
coreymon77_sourcemaker: realtek what?22:28
kiccoBerzerker: with wich facts do you say this?22:28
kmorrisseycan anyone here help with using linuc media center on kubuntu22:28
kmorrisseylinux*22:28
_sourcemakercoreymon77: 818522:29
coreymon77Berzerker: if it wasnt officially supported, we wouldnt be helping you here22:29
Berzerkeryeah, I heard you lol22:30
Berzerkeranyway22:30
BerzerkerI still need to find a solution22:30
kmorrissey#linuxmce22:31
coreymon77Berzerker: i thought you got it working?22:31
Berzerkerno22:31
BerzerkerI need to try and run iTunes on linux or something22:31
kiccoBerzerker: tried wine? in which format r then?22:31
_sourcemakercoreymon77: how can I fix the problem that the wlan is detected ?22:31
Berzerkerkicco: no I haven't22:31
Berzerkerhold on22:32
Berzerkerbrb22:32
kmorrissey#pclinuxos22:32
kmorrisseycan anyone help with media center I am new to linux22:32
coreymon77_sourcemaker: is the card detected?22:33
_sourcemakercoreymon77: no...22:33
_sourcemakercoreymon77: that's my problem22:33
kmorrisseyI been trying to migrate to Linux for 2 months now, I dont want windblows but its alot easier to setup!22:33
coreymon77kmorrissey: give us a sec22:34
kmorrisseyokkk22:34
kicco_sourcemaker: don't know tour card but tried ndiswrapper?22:34
coreymon77!patience | kmorrissey22:34
ubotukmorrissey: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:34
coreymon77kicco: no need, there is a free driver22:34
_sourcemakercoreymon77: I know how to configure wifi cards in linux... but the card is not detected... it's a fresh clean install 5 minutes ago.. on gusty... the wifi has been detected right22:34
RatshellAnyone here using Kde4?22:34
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kiccocoreymon77: what about dmes when you modprobe it manually?22:34
kiccodmesg*22:35
coreymon77_sourcemaker:  okay, does it show up on lspci22:35
_sourcemakercoreymon77: yes...22:35
coreymon77_sourcemaker: and what does iwconfig say?22:35
crash_!ndis22:35
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:35
crash_well that documentation was worthless22:35
crash_How do I install and configure ndis?22:36
coreymon77crash_: it usually helps22:36
coreymon77crash_: give me a sec22:36
_sourcemakercoreymon77: I will try... the pc of my dad's is down stairs :-) 3 minutes22:36
coreymon77_sourcemaker: tell me what iwconfig says22:36
kiccocrash_: apt-get install ndiswrapper-common22:36
kmorrisseyubotu, My attitude supports linux 100% I have been searching the net for two months, I have tried over 10 different distros, I really want to give Linux a real shot I tried 4 years ago and couldnt get it right.  I know your volenteers and I commend you I just want someone to recognise I was asking for help coz in 2 months no one had ever answered me on these chat apps22:36
Berzerkermadwifi worked for me22:37
Berzerkeris anyone using compiz-fusion on hardy?22:37
coreymon77Berzerker: madwifi is primarily for intel or atheros cards22:37
kiccoyeees!22:37
kiccocoreymon77: was about to say it..22:37
Berzerkerkicco: it's so shotty for me22:37
coreymon77kmorrissey: i understand, im just a little busy at the moment22:37
kiccoBerzerker: which card?22:37
Berzerkernvidia 8600M GT22:37
kmorrisseyplease take your time I can wait.  Im happy to wait22:38
coreymon77my opinion is never use ndis unless it is absolutely necessary22:38
kiccoBerzerker: drivers? nvidia-glx-new or sthing like that?22:38
Berzerkeryeah22:38
kiccoBerzerker: xorg.conf? driver is nvidia?22:38
Berzerkerdriver is nvidia22:38
Berzerkeryes22:38
coreymon77crash_: heres what you want22:39
kiccoBerzerker: glx direct rendering?22:39
crash_coreymon77: complete22:39
kiccoglxinfo i mean22:39
Berzerkerkicco: how do I tell22:39
coreymon77crash_: go to the wifidocs, and look at the Driver/mrv8k page22:39
coreymon77crash_: that should help you with your card22:39
crash_kk22:39
kiccoglxinfo from terminal look at the start of the list22:39
crash_!wifi22:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:39
Berzerkerdirect rendering: Yes22:40
raymearshy, everyone. i have a problem. it is not really kubuntu related. it is rather a general linux issue: when i try to login, the authentication succeeds but then i get an "unable to cd to 'home/my_user'"22:40
kiccoshit. xserver-xgl installed?22:40
raymearsand i get the prompt again22:40
Berzerkerkicco: dunno lol22:40
cweaganskmorrissey: what do you need help with?22:41
coreymon77raymears: apparently your home directory either doesnt exist or is corrupted22:41
raymearsdoes anyone have any suggestions?22:41
kiccoapt-get install xserver-xgl22:41
Berzerkerapparently not then22:41
kmorrisseyI just want to no if anyone can help with running media center on kubuntu22:41
raymearscoreymon77:  well i can reach it as root, i can see everything in it22:41
kiccois the processor running high when you use effects?22:41
kmorrisseyLinuxMCE22:41
Berzerkerkicco: I don't know, I switched back to kwin, let me switch again hold on22:42
kmorrisseyThe instructions are confusing me with reference to the networking22:42
kmorrisseyBasicaly I understand that I should have a deadicated machine for running LinuxMCE and then network boot my other machines22:42
raymearscoreymon77:  the thing is i installed gentoo on another partition and i played around with the permissions of the kubuntu partition from within gentoo. but i don't believe this to be the issue22:42
coreymon77kmorrissey: let me guess, you have wifi problems to right?22:43
Berzerkerkicco: no, I changed it to performance mode, but it's still not good22:43
max_Hello, is anybody know russian channel kubuntu on this channel?22:43
Berzerkerkicco: the title bars on non-focused windows disappear, and I can't drag windows around22:43
_sourcemakercoreymon77: no extension found is the result of iwconfig22:43
max_on this server*22:43
cweaganskmorrissey: check your private messages.22:43
kmorrisseyno wifi is fine I figured that out22:43
coreymon77raymears: your home directory is either non-existent, corrupted, or unable to be accessed by your user due to permissions22:43
coreymon77_sourcemaker: what interfaces were given?22:44
kiccoyou should restart X if you installed xgl. how's the cube while rotating i.e.?22:44
kmorrisseyI cant send prv messages its blocked coz Im not registered22:44
cweaganskmorrissey: ah22:44
Berzerkerkicco: I don't use it22:44
Berzerkerbut I'll check22:44
kmorrisseyMy question is, if I have a deadicated box for LinuxMCE and network boot the other machines, which one needs the nvidia graphics card in22:45
Berzerkerkicco: looks smooth22:45
cweaganskmorrissey: probably the one that will connect to your tv (or whatever you are using for a monitor)22:45
raymearscoreymon77: i even did a chgrp -R myusername /home/myusername22:45
kmorrisseyI am using a 32" LCD22:45
ElVirolohi all22:45
_sourcemakerback to gusty... everthink was working fine22:46
cweaganskmorrissey: are you only using the media center features on one machine?22:46
kmorrisseyand also, does the TV tunner need to be in the CORE machine, or the one at the TV22:46
coreymon77_sourcemaker: the interfaces that were listed, was wlan0, wifi0 or anything like that in the list22:46
ElVirolosound on youtube doesn't work, which is strange since pulseaudio isn't installed under kubuntu22:46
kmorrisseyNo I want to network around my whole house22:46
kiccoonly title bars... which decorator have u installed?22:46
_sourcemakercoreymon77: now... only LO22:46
_sourcemakercoreymon77: there is no wifi interface22:46
cweaganskmorrissey: I would try installing mythtv on the machines and find some kind of streaming media server22:47
_sourcemakercoreymon77: is there any missing kernel module... maybe a bug in the new hardy distribution?22:47
kmorrisseymythtv is a complete nightmere to install22:47
cweaganskmorrissey: the media center features are cool, but you should start small and work up to a REALLY nice system22:47
cweaganskmorrissey: ??22:47
kiccobtw: how' linuxmce?22:47
kmorrisseyI agree, but Myth is not for the beginer in Linux22:48
kiccohow's22:48
ElViroloideas anyone?22:48
kmorrisseyThe instructions are very tech, and way beyond my skills of linus22:48
kmorrisseylinux*22:48
cweaganskmorrissey: dude....it's easy:  sudo apt-get install mythtv mythtv-themes22:48
kmorrisseyI wish there website said that!22:49
kiccokmorrissey: i've been told it was easy...22:49
cweaganskmorrissey: google is your friend:  http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a22:49
cweagansaka: google "mythtv on ubuntu"22:49
cweagansfirst link22:49
coreymon77_sourcemaker: can you type lspci into konsole and put the output on pastebin?22:49
raymearscoreymon77: i just added my user to the root group.... and kde starts up quite nicely. except that i've just blown the whole ubuntu security concept22:49
raymearsto pieces22:50
kmorrisseyreally when you get a minute check out there website very complex instructions22:50
kmorrisseyThank you I will try that22:50
spirooYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS whos tha man. Now it works, untz untz untz22:50
coreymon77raymears: apparently the permissions was messed up22:50
raymearsi know.22:50
coreymon77raymears: fix them and youre fine22:50
raymearsany suggestions on how to fix them22:50
raymearsas i said, i chgrp -R ed my whole home folder22:50
coreymon77do the opposite of what you did on gentoo22:50
cweaganskmorrissey: btw, if you are having problems with things like mythtv, I would reccommend spending a little time familiarizing yourself with linux and how EVERYTHING works before you start on a huge networking project like the one you want to do with LinuxMCE22:50
kubuntuhello dudes22:51
kmorrisseyThanks for your help, its much appricated.22:51
cweaganskmorrissey: no problem.22:51
raymearscoreymon77:  HAHA! i have been messing about with gentoo for about... 12 hours.:D22:51
coreymon77raymears: you asked for a suggestion :P22:51
kmorrisseyUnfortunatly, I need the media center to work inorder to leave windblows behind, we use MS media center very much and if I cant figure it out I will have to revert to MS for a happy household!!!22:52
raymearswell.. yeah. i asked: "can you help me fix my problem?" to which your answer was something like: "fix it!":D22:52
coreymon77raymears: in other words, i dont know what to do :P22:53
coreymon77kmorrissey: what do you mean by networking22:53
coreymon77kmorrissey: what kind of networking are you trying to do22:53
raymearscoreymon77:  not really. i mean, i've got it working for now... but this is an extremly ugly solution. do you know of any reason why my user partition wouldn't get mountet inspite belonging to my group?22:54
raymearscoreymon77: hmm.. i've just had an idea. check the permissions:D22:54
kmorrisseyOk, I am trying to setup a core system running somesort of media center (maybe LinuxMCE) with 2 further systems, network booting to the media center, and then 2 laptops that authenticate and gain desktop and settings etc from the server22:54
coreymon77raymears: that would help22:54
coreymon77kmorrissey: you mean, you want to have 2 computers able to screen share from the first system22:55
Bob190I'm installing Kubuntu and I need wireless drivers for Hardy22:56
kmorrisseynot screen share, the LinuxMCE website claims you can network boot the system what they call medai directors22:56
kmorrisseybasically making them settop boxes22:56
coreymon77Bob190: what card?22:57
spiroocoreymon77: Woho, I solved the problem :D22:57
kmorrisseybut I dont no where to put the high end graphics cards, in the core sever or in the set tops!22:57
coreymon77spiroo: nice22:58
Bob190coreymon77, i dunno.22:58
Berzerke1kicco: xserver-xgl screwed my computer up22:58
kmorrisseyI think some better instruction manuals for Linux apps, would get many more people using it, Im just stubborn thats why I spent two months without any fully working computer22:58
Bob190i have a dell inpison 1525 laptop.22:58
Berzerke1kicco: nothing had title bars22:58
Berzerke1kicco: and I couldn't click to get a textbox focus22:58
Bob190*inspiron22:58
spiroocoreymon77: But the solution really stinks. But it does the job anyway :D Thats all that matters. Sometimes it is good to be stubborn :D22:58
coreymon77Bob190: type lspci in a konsole window for me, will you?22:59
Bob190coreymon77, i'm currently in windows.22:59
kiccoBerzerke1 :) remove it... apt-get remove xserver-xgl. i have nvidia cards everytwhere and i have it installed22:59
Berzerke1kicco: I did22:59
coreymon77oh23:00
kiccoand? what's wrong now?23:00
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coreymon77Bob190: well, i cant really help without knowing what card we are talking about here23:00
Berzerkerkicco: well, I'm back where i started23:00
coreymon77do you have any way of connecting to the internet in linux, ethernet perhaps?23:00
kmorrisseyanother question please.  Has anyone successfully got working an app to run MSN and Yahoo chat, with cam and sound like how msn works23:01
coreymon77Bob190: could you maybe connect through ethernet23:01
kiccoBerzerker: sorry, i need to be in front of your pc. have you checked x log in /var/log?23:01
JoshOvkikmorrissey: aMSN ive got all them working on23:01
coreymon77kmorrissey: i know aps that can do msn and yahoo23:01
JoshOvkibut thats msn only sorry23:02
coreymon77kmorrissey: amsn should be able to do it23:02
kiccokmorrissey:  virtualbox :(23:02
Bob190coreymon77, dell wireless 1395 WLAN mini-card23:02
coreymon77kmorrissey: maybe pidgin?23:02
kmorrisseymsn is a start thank you23:02
kiccoaMsn does only web/chat for msn23:02
crash_!ndiswrapper23:02
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:02
kmorrisseyno pigin and kopex are no good23:02
kiccokopete is great!23:02
kmorrisseyvirtualbox?????23:02
kicco:(23:02
coreymon77crash_: no! you dont need ndis most of the time23:02
Berzerkerkicco: I'm not on a PC. XD But nah, it's ok, I'll just stick with kwin until they fix compiz.23:03
kmorrisseykopete is great I agree but webcam is unprediciable and not with sound23:03
kiccokmorrissey: i let you imagen what's behind my answer23:03
chrisrogers!register23:03
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spirooDoes somebody except me get this error when they are closing Kate: "KDEInit could not start /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate"?23:03
chrisrogers#userregistration23:03
chrisrogersdoes anybody know where the autostart directory is?23:04
aLeSDI have installed ubuntu ... can I install something to change it in kubuntu+kde4 ?23:04
chrisrogersi believe so23:04
Berzerkeroh that reminds me23:04
Berzerkerwhat packages do I need to install to use KDE423:05
nosrednaekimaLeSD: yes.... kubuntu-kde4-desktop23:05
Bob190coreymon77, got that?23:05
nosrednaekim^^23:05
chrisrogershey nosrednaekim23:05
JoshOvkiaLeSD: you will need to install kubuntu-desktop   (for kde3) and kubuntu-kde4-desktop (for kde4)23:05
coreymon77Bob190: let me guess, dell inspiron 1501 correct?23:05
aLeSDnosrednaekim: it's the only one , I need ?23:05
JoshOvkidepending on wat 1 u want23:05
nosrednaekimchrisrogers: hey.. aren't you the guy with the ATI logout problem?23:05
BerzerkerI'm already on KDE3 in Kubuntu, I just install kubuntu-kde4-desktop then?23:05
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: yea why?23:05
Bob190coreymon77, 1525, actually23:05
kiccoBob190: lspci from a terminal23:06
chrisrogersi can't figure out how to register23:06
coreymon77Bob190: unfortunately, you need to use ndis for this23:06
=== mwilliams is now known as linuxguymarshall
linuxguymarshallWhere do I get KDE-copiz help?23:07
KhaoticMindBroadcom 4312 ?23:07
JoshOvkinosrednaekim: you got that link for chrisrogers book marked or u want me 2 get it?23:07
KhaoticMinddell 139523:07
nosrednaekimJoshOvki: I have it marked :)23:07
KhaoticMind?23:07
JoshOvkinosrednaekim: alright :)23:07
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: ?!23:07
nosrednaekimhaven't tested it personally though... maybe I should do that first23:07
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: do we have a fix23:07
Bob190coreymon77, don't know how. I'm installing Kubuntu through wubi23:08
JoshOvkinosrednaekim: i have tested it23:08
chrisrogersI LOVE WUBI23:08
chrisrogerslol23:08
kmorrisseyall of a sudden mythtv is easy to install, I thank whoever told me sudo apt-get install mythtv mythtv-themes23:08
coreymon77KhaoticMind: is the dell wireless 1390 a bcm43xx card?23:08
nosrednaekimJoshOvki: crap.... bookmark is on the other login... could you give it to him?23:08
linuxguymarshallchrisrodgers:Dont spam23:08
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: yes, it is23:08
KhaoticMindcoreymon77: aye, all dell are broacdom23:08
chrisrogerslinuxguymarshall: it's chrisrogers no "d"23:08
chrisrogershey does anybody know where the autostart directory is?23:09
JoshOvkichrisrogers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605      there is a fix for the ATI logout problem in there23:09
nosrednaekimchrisrogers: for kde? .kde/Autostart23:10
chrisrogersthanks nosrednaekim23:10
Bob190coreymon77, is that good?23:10
coreymon77Bob190: ya, that means we have an easier time23:10
KhaoticMindJoshOvki:  there is? i've that problem, but it did not fully work...23:10
coreymon77Bob190: you mind booting into linux23:10
JoshOvkihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32      that post in particular23:10
Bob190it's still installing23:10
KhaoticMindcoreymon77: i believe the 1390 is a 4312, as mine 139523:10
coreymon77Bob190: we need you in linux in order to do anything23:10
Bob190and I have no way on the net23:10
coreymon77Bob190: ethernet?23:11
coreymon77anyways, i have to go for a bit, sorry all23:11
Bob190coreymon77, gimmie a minute waiting for the install to finish then i'll be in linux. my friend will be back to talk to you.23:11
KhaoticMindJoshOvki: nive! will try it!23:11
JoshOvkiKhaoticMind: wont take effect for the first reboot23:12
JoshOvkibut will for the second23:12
Bob190shoot 1:17:12 remaining...23:12
chrisrogershow does one install a .patch file23:12
chrisrogers!.patch23:12
ubotuPatches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results.  There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines.23:12
chrisrogersthat didn't help23:13
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: how do i install a .patch file?23:13
ubuntuHi23:13
=== Jucato_ is now known as Jucato
nosrednaekimchrisrogers: farther down there are instructions for how to do that23:14
chrisrogersit dosn't tell23:16
Berzerkerhow do I access a folder on my HFS volume that's locked?23:16
KhaoticMindwill try it now... brb23:16
chrisrogersnever mind23:16
crash_!ndis\23:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ndis\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:17
crash_!ndis23:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:18
arrrghhhJucato, hey i figured out where i put that x11vnc autostart line - it was in the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession file.  where's the startup file similar to this for gnome/ubuntu?23:18
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: installing patch *crosses fingers*23:18
Berzerkerbrb23:18
=== _Czessi is now known as Czessi
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: do i restart now?23:19
pyro17_restart?23:20
nosrednaekimchrisrogers: I guess23:20
nosrednaekimpyro17_: yes... it is neccesary in this case :)23:20
arrrghhhor anyone for that matter... i put a startup entry for x11vnc in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession file so i could use it to login to my machine remotely after a reboot.  how can i set this same functionality on gnome/ubuntu?23:22
davfhow do you change system sounds in hardy heron kubuntu23:22
davfkde423:23
arrrghhhdavf, kde 3.5.9 or kde4.0.3?23:23
KhaoticMindJoshOvki: those steps fixed the logout for me! Thanks! :)23:24
cpk1davf: system settings then notifications I believe23:24
JoshOvkiKhaoticMind: glad to helo :)23:24
JoshOvki*help23:24
arrrghhhdavf, yea that's the only place i know, but i'm on 3.5.923:24
nosrednaekimarrrghhh: you might get better help in #ubuntu23:25
arrrghhhnosrednaekim, ok thanks23:25
davfisn't one23:25
nosrednaekimdavf: systemsetting->notifications23:25
cpk1davf: yes there is23:26
crash_well, the NDIS wrapper seems to have installed ok.23:26
coreymon77crash_: good23:26
crash_But I cant seem to disable the drivers that installed with the OS23:26
chrisrogersIT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS23:26
crash_so ndis cant take over the device23:26
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: holey crap it worked23:26
nosrednaekimcrash_: which drivers?23:26
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: thank you so much, you have made my whole year23:26
crash_mrv8k according to the wiki23:26
nosrednaekimawesome awesome :) thank JoshOvki23:26
chrisrogersJoshOvki: you are a life saver23:26
davfno only sound card option23:27
coreymon77crash_: did you blacklist the preinstalled drivers?23:27
KhaoticMindlol :)23:27
crash_the wiki had me blasklist it, but it doesnt seem to have gone away23:27
JoshOvkichrisrogers: glad to help :)23:27
nosrednaekimdavf: oh... sound card?23:27
chrisrogersJoshOvki: if it wasn't for you, i would have given up, i knew i reinstalled Kubuntu for a reason today23:27
coreymon77crash_: did you unload them?23:27
nosrednaekimthats in the phonon configs I'd say23:27
chrisrogersJoshOvki: omg you are awsome23:27
chrisrogersJoshOvki: sorry i yelled loud when i was able to log out23:27
cpk1davf: go to the kmenu, then system settings then under looks and feel there is notifications23:27
crash_coreymon77: havent got a clue. If the wiki didnt mention it, I didnt do it23:28
chrisrogersJoshOvki: my gf was like "calm down jeez" :D lol23:28
JoshOvkilol23:28
JoshOvkiwell as my work here is done im goin 2 sleep23:28
chrisrogersJoshOvki: ok i'm done23:28
chrisrogersJoshOvki: g'nitde23:28
coreymon77nosrednaekim: should he have to?23:28
JoshOvkigot work in the morning23:28
davfno only sound card option in systems settings, notifications.23:28
JoshOvkinight all23:28
chrisrogersJoshOvki: *g'nite23:28
chrisrogersJoshOvki: thanks again23:28
chrisrogersaww he's gone23:28
coreymon77crash_: did you blacklist them before you restarted?23:28
chrisrogers:( i can't thank him enough23:28
coreymon77chrisrogers: yes you can :p23:29
chrisrogersnosrednaekim: you brought him to me, thank you as well, i'm going to go enjoy this now23:29
crash_black listed, installed ndis, the rebooted23:29
chrisrogersand i have another person to pass this patch on too23:29
chrisrogerstalk to everybody later23:29
nosrednaekimok.. bye23:29
ForzaPalermoanyone know how to get azurueus 64bit (from their website) working kubuntu 6423:30
ForzaPalermoive already download sun java from adept23:30
cpk1davf: I think you are looking in the sound menu, not the notifications menu23:30
ForzaPalermoi cant get it to run :(23:30
davfcpk1 ok where exactly is that.23:31
cpk1davf: in the system settings menu, should be the first row, under the "looks and feel" header23:32
davfYes I went there, says applications tab and one entry under title.23:32
davfwhich doesn't do anything when I click on it.23:33
davfevent source: = phonon: kde multimedia library23:33
crash_gar stupid wifi23:33
crash_how the heck do I disable the Kubuntu built in driver23:33
coreymon77crash_: sorry, im a little busy right now23:34
davfawww!!!!! I understand....23:34
davfThanks, I found it. I needed to change the event source.23:34
crash_coreymon77: No worries. Was a general rant while I research, not a specific request :)23:34
nosrednaekimcrash_: run "sudo lshw" find your wireless chip. look at the associated driver. put "blacklist drivername" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" reboot23:36
|neon|e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx23:36
=== brad_ is now known as some_dude
davfOk, I want to remove the sound that plays when you enter an box like a password box. Anyone know what it is called?23:37
Deepthoughtis there a way in Kopete to stop the chatmember-list from always (re-) appearing at login ?  (I get tired of having to switch it off in the menu everytime and for every channel)23:37
cpk1davf: new dialogue under the kwin source?23:38
nosrednaekimDeepthought: just readjust the size...23:38
nosrednaekimto nothing23:38
crash_nosrednaekim: yeah, Ive done that and was puzzling over the results. there doesnt seem to BE a driver associated with it23:39
Berzerkercoreymon77: I got it working23:39
coreymon77Berzerker: nice23:39
Berzerkerbut I only could transfer the M4A files23:39
Deepthoughtnosrednaekim: that won' t work, there' s a minimum size where it stops...23:39
Berzerkerwhcih is most of my songs anyway23:39
nosrednaekimcrash_: pastebin?23:39
Berzerkerthe important ones, so I'm good.23:39
nosrednaekimDeepthought: you're right.23:39
crash_!pastebin23:39
kmorrisseyHi again, well MythTV is upan running, thanks everyone.23:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)23:39
nosrednaekimDeepthought: yeah... mine doesn't show partitipants by default23:40
Deepthoughtnosrednaekim: not kopete then ?   or some hiddwn setting ?23:40
crash_nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64774/23:40
kmorrisseyAnother issues, I cant seem to find an answer to is my hp laserjet 1600, it works, but its printing of colours is terrible, very dark and grainy any ideas please23:40
andreshola23:41
nosrednaekimDeepthought: I'm not sure... it has never shown that window for me (yeah,kopete kde4)23:41
Deepthoughtoh, 4  this is kde 3.9   Maybe I should try the kde4 kopete then ?   I have the kde4 runtime, so it should work, right ?23:42
gnomefreakDeepthought: iirc kde4 is kde3.9 since its not final23:42
nosrednaekimDeepthought: yeah.. should.23:42
nosrednaekimgnomefreak: I think he menat 3.5.923:42
gnomefreakah23:43
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: indeed I do, correction23:43
gnomefreakif you have kde libs it should work23:43
gnomefreakfor 4 it should work23:43
nosrednaekimDeepthought: though, warning, kopete-kde4 does not work with IRC or Jabber23:43
coreymon77Deepthought: 4223:43
Berzerkerhow can I check load from different processes23:44
davfcpk1 sorry i don't exactly know what you mean.23:44
Bauldrickhow can i convert .m4p files to .mp323:44
crash_nosrednaekim: did you see that pastebin?23:44
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: ahaaaa... that solves my strange bug I had earlier...  I had kopete kde4, for some reason I don' t quite get, and things got mixed up...  Then on each irc acces x crashed.. could that be it ?23:44
chris32882is there anyway to move the pop-up window when a user sings on  for kopete?23:45
nosrednaekimcrash_: apparently, there is no accociated driver23:45
gnomefreakDeepthought: maybe it would depends on the backtrace23:45
chris32882signs*23:45
nosrednaekimchris32882: I'm not aware of any23:45
crash_so ndiswan hasnt taken over either?23:45
crash_frack23:45
cpk1davf: so using the pull down menu for event source select the kde window manager and then look in there for "new dialog" which is I think the the noise you want to turn off23:46
cpk1!lvm23:46
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO23:46
chris32882alright thanks, just in an odd place kinda would like it above the task bar when it pops up23:46
nosrednaekimcrash_: does "ndiswrapper -l" (thats a small L) list anything23:46
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: one little thing: if it doesn' t work in IRC, then how can it 'not show chatlist'  then /   That doesn' t make sense...23:46
Deepthoughtcoreymon77: beware of mice23:47
xagoHey people...I need to get a channel in spanish for kubuntu....who can tell me?23:47
nosrednaekim!es23:47
ubotuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.23:47
coreymon77Deepthought: lol23:47
xagoubotu: thanks!!!23:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thanks!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:47
davfcpk1 ok, the sound is made when the box disappears.23:47
edward_I keep getting these messages popping up all over the place from KopeteKDE4 and I disabled bubbles but it failed toget rid of these23:47
gnomefreakDeepthought: i would have to look at it before i can say why. maybe mixed up libs not running the 4.0 libs that are needed with 4.0 kopete?23:47
crash_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64776/23:47
edward_they're little boxes that keep popping up every time i get sent a message23:48
davfcp1k but this is definately the area though.23:48
edward_ooh here we go, sorry to bother you23:48
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: are you talking about myg bug now ?   or the chatlist thing ?23:48
cpk1davf: then maybe "delete dialog" either way, I would look around in the kde window manager area, since the sound is probably coming from that23:48
nosrednaekimcrash_: and "iwconfig" isn't showing a wireless device?23:48
gnomefreakDeepthought: can be both i assume ive never had your chatlist bug23:48
crash_nosrednaekim: It is not listing any wireless device.23:49
davfcpk1 I think I found it "Window Unmaximize" thanks for the help.23:49
nosrednaekimcrash_: uhhg , thats nasty. never seen that before23:49
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: no wait, we' re getting mixed up here, there' s no bug wih the chatlist, I just want it out of the way, but it always reappear if I start kopete anew23:49
gnomefreakDeepthought: ah im not sure i dont use kopete anymore :(23:50
crash_hence my frustration :P23:50
edward_Okay, I still failed. How do I get rid of annoying messages popping up from KopeteKDE4 whenever somebody sends me a message?I23:50
nosrednaekimedward_: kopete->settings->configure notifications23:50
* gnomefreak sorry im all over 20 channels and noone but this channel is letting me go cook23:51
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: the bug was x resetting at opening an IRC-channel, and since you said kopete for kde4 doesn' t work with irc I made the connection23:51
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: what do you use then ?23:51
gnomefreakDeepthought: for irc i use irssi23:51
crash_nosrednaekim: is it possible that lspci misidentified the chipset?23:51
gnomefreakfor aim i use pdgin but im on aim for 5 minutes a year23:51
|neon|e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx23:51
=== pauljw_ is now known as pauljw
Deepthoughtgnomefreak: does that have other protocols too ?   or just IRC ?23:51
nosrednaekimcrash_: I very much doubt it23:51
gnomefreakDeepthought: just irc23:52
edward_nosrenaekim: thanks23:52
Deepthoughthm, would not be for me, I like to keep track of all IM-stuff at once.23:52
crash_nosrednaekim: faulty cardbus drivers?23:52
nosrednaekimcrash_: thats definately possible23:53
crash_this doesnt make any sense23:54
crash_!disable23:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about disable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi23:58
|neon|e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx23:58
crash_How do I disable drivers again?23:59
=== javi is now known as Perso
SlimeyPetethere's a blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d iirc23:59

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