[00:00] <sumant> sumant-laptop is my machine name...so type it ther/
[00:00] <Fujisan> how do i add a user in Konsole "and specify a password"? (sorry but i cant scroll up and my logging is disable , this text here scrolls too fast) "new addition"
[00:01] <sumant> flipstar: i mean during setup it said you will be identified on a network as sumant-laptop
[00:01] <flipstar> Fujisan: the adduser will ask for an password
[00:01] <Fujisan> doesnt work
[00:01] <sumant> flipstar: what in the right side
[00:02] <Fujisan> and isnt it useradd flipstar?
[00:02] <Fujisan> instead of adduser
[00:02] <macisp2000> Ok, I got Kubuntu installed and then found KDE4 and installed it.  Is there a easy way to also install Gnome?
[00:02] <Fujisan> i need an example
[00:02] <flipstar> Fujisan: useradd might also work but isn't for deban at all
[00:02] <jussio1> macisp2000: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:02] <spiroo> Is it allright to ask for a computer related thingy? :P
[00:02] <flipstar> sumant: the right side as it is there
[00:02] <Fujisan> because i am not prompted to give a password when i use: useradd "username"
[00:03] <spiroo> I have a question about my CPU.
[00:03] <macisp2000> thanks.  Is there a way to use the add/remove programs like I did with KDE4?
[00:03] <jussio1> spiroo: try in #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:03] <sumant> flipstar;yeah i pasted it as it is
[00:03] <spiroo> okay thanks
[00:03] <flipstar> sumant: good then save and run <sudo visudo -c> in a shell
[00:03] <sumant> flipstar :now?
[00:03] <jussio1> macisp2000: yeah, install ubuntu-desktop from the adept installer
[00:03] <macisp2000> ok, I was looking for gnome.
[00:04] <jussio1> macisp2000: that installs gnome...
[00:04] <Fujisan> whats password when no password is specified in the commandline?
[00:04] <Fujisan> the*
[00:04] <flipstar> Fujisan: maybe you'll be asked at first login
[00:04] <sumant> flipstar: i enterd the passwrd, it says /etc/sudoers file parsed OK
[00:04] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: adduser is better than useradd btw
[00:04] <macisp2000> Last two things, I have emerald installed but have no themes, how to I add them, also, I can't get the hang of KDE themes from the website, is there some sort of one click install?
[00:05] <flipstar> sumant: great..then the next step
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> and it should ask you for the password when you create the user
[00:05] <Fujisan> it doesnt do that
[00:05] <Fujisan> SlimeyPete
[00:05] <Fujisan> it should yes
[00:05] <Fujisan> but it aint happening
[00:05] <SlimeyPete> useradd might not...it's less automatic than adduser
[00:05] <Fujisan> so a -p followed by "password" ?
[00:06] <Fujisan> i am just guessing here
[00:06] <flipstar> Fujisan: see man adduser :)
[00:06] <sumant> flipstar: kmenu>run command>wvdial
[00:06] <sumant> ??
[00:06] <Fujisan> why cant i get an example
[00:06] <Fujisan> the man doesnt give me an example
[00:06] <flipstar> sumant: at command prompt means at a shell
[00:07] <Fujisan> just a bunch of explainations
[00:07] <flipstar> sumant: to see if there problems
[00:07] <Fujisan> not i am messing it up here adding a zillion users
[00:07] <Fujisan> please give me a password
[00:07] <sumant> i did open a new shell n typed wvdial
[00:07] <Fujisan> i mean gimme me an example
[00:07] <sumant> flilpstar : it says ---
[00:07] <Fujisan> is that hard to give someone an example
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<*1>: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> WvDial<Err>: Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:07] <sumant> sumant@sumant-laptop:~$
[00:07] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: "sudo adduser pete" would add the user pete and should ask you for your sudo password, then ask you a bunch of questions about the user, including their password.
[00:08] <flipstar> sumant: the modem is plugged in ?
[00:08] <Fujisan> i tried that already but i dont get to specify a password afterwards but the user is created and when i try to login i dont know which password to use
[00:08] <sumant> flipstar :the phone is displyaed in K info center ---
[00:08] <sumant> Manufacturer: Telson, Incorporated
[00:08] <sumant> Serial #: Serial Number
[00:09] <sumant> Manufacturer: Telson, Incorporated
[00:09] <sumant> Serial #: Serial Number
[00:09] <sumant> flip: its displyed under host controller 2
[00:09] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: does it ask you any questions at all?
[00:09] <sumant> flipstar:its displyed under host controller @
[00:09] <sumant> flipstar:2
[00:10] <Fujisan> ok its working now thanks
[00:10] <sumant> flipstar:should i plug it in the other port?
[00:10] <SlimeyPete> Fujisan: :)
[00:11] <flipstar> sumant: run <ls /dev/ttyUSB0> in a shell ..
[00:11] <flipstar> Fujisan: what was the error ?
[00:12] <sumant> flipstar: i got this message--- ls: /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
[00:14]  * NightBird ponders
[00:14] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  does this mean these power saving are in use ?
[00:14] <flipstar> sumant: you probably need to replace "Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0" in "/etc/wvdial.conf" with something else
[00:14] <sumant> flipstar:i did install this .exe file thru wine....what does that do?
[00:14] <mefisto__> flipstar, sumant: I think k/ubuntu lists usb devices differently, not as ttyUSB0
[00:15] <Fujisan> can i get filelight through the repos?
[00:15] <flipstar> Fujisan: sure
[00:15] <mefisto__> ls -i /dev/*usb* might give a clue
[00:15] <Fujisan> ok
[00:15] <Fujisan> ty
[00:15] <sumant> mefisto: thanks mate...so shold i run that in a shel to find out?
[00:16] <minaqua> bloody hell.  that new nVidia driver slowed me down immensely
[00:16] <sumant> mefisto_: yeah that did give a yellow coloured output
[00:16] <sumant> 8104 /dev/usb1            13295 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep81  70086 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep83
[00:17] <sumant>  8108 /dev/usb2             8130 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep00  70069 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep8a
[00:17] <sumant>  8112 /dev/usb3             8171 /dev/usbdev2.1_ep81   8138 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep00
[00:17] <sumant>  8189 /dev/usb4            70043 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep00   8200 /dev/usbdev3.1_ep81
[00:17] <sumant>  8126 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00  70093 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep06   8218 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep00
[00:17] <sumant>  8151 /dev/usbdev1.1_ep81  70076 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep0b   8233 /dev/usbdev4.1_ep81
[00:17] <sumant> 13287 /dev/usbdev1.7_ep00  70111 /dev/usbdev2.4_ep81
[00:17] <sumant> flipstar: u there
[00:18] <frapell> Hi, i'm trying the new kubuntu
[00:18] <frapell> and also i'm trying KDE4
[00:18] <frapell> (4.0.3)
[00:18] <vmplanet> how do i check if i have installed KDE 4?
[00:19] <frapell> for some reason the bar in the bottom (where i have the K menu, applications, clock, etc) is not longer appearing... does anybody knows what should i execute to have it back ?
[00:19] <flipstar> sumant: i don't know could be any of them
[00:19] <Fujisan> any good alarmclocks for kde besides the kalarm one?
[00:19] <frapell> (i was messing around with compiz :-P)
[00:19] <ProGzZz> hi
[00:19] <ProGzZz> I'm a new linux user
[00:19] <ProGzZz> :)
[00:20] <ProGzZz> I liked ubuntu
[00:20] <flipstar> frapell: plasma probably but ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar: tell me about wine
[00:20] <ProGzZz> it is nice
[00:20] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: welcome
[00:20] <flipstar> sumant: whats with wine ?
[00:20] <thompa> i created a dvd project in k3b and save it, but its too large to burn, can i split it somehow?
[00:20] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki: thanks:)
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar: it helps running windows progs. right
[00:20] <frapell> flipstar: thanks
[00:20] <sumant> flipstar:or it helps with drivers too
[00:20] <flipstar> sumant: right
[00:20] <sumant> ?
[00:21] <flipstar> sumant: no..it given a faked win environment
[00:21] <Fujisan> does kerry beagle need to index files and if so do i have to specify this in the settings?
[00:21] <vmplanet> whats the command to upgrade kde 3.5 into 4.0 on kubuntu 8.04
[00:21] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: this is the support channel, #kubuntu-offtopic   is the general chat
[00:21] <sumant> flipstar:so u cant run the drivers which i got on a cd, i mean the usb modem drivers
[00:21] <sumant> ?
[00:21] <ProGzZz> one question please! is there any way to play Generals on ubuntu ?
[00:21] <sumant> mefisto_: u there
[00:21] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki:  I need help
[00:21] <minaqua> any way to play DVD movies?
[00:21] <TheGentleman> Why can't I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD?  sudo /cdrom/cdromupgrade returns "command not found" though i can see that cdromupgrade is there on the CD
[00:22] <thompa> any k3b person here, its annoying that it allows you to put duel layer
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- I had the same problem with the DVD
[00:22] <TheGentleman> and you could solve it Dragnslcr ?
[00:22] <ProGzZz> is there any way to play C&C Generals on ubuntu ?
[00:23] <Fujisan> is it possible to implement a ticketing support system for the chat i am feeling overwhelmed by the chaotic nature of this support infrastructure
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar:which os u use?
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- only by doing a normal upgrade through Adept
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> I hated to suck up the servers' bandwidth when I didn't really need to
[00:23] <terrestre> !medibuntu > minaqua
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar:was thinking of downloading the new hardy heron, ubuntu this time...
[00:23] <thompa> i got 8G  data to burn in k3b but only have single layer
[00:23] <sumant> flipstar: is ubuntu better than Kubuntu?
[00:24] <sumant> flipstar: i believe its more widely used than K...
[00:24] <TheGentleman> I agree Dragnslcr    I just downloaded the alternate iso (in 30 mins via torrent) for that reason!
[00:24] <mefisto__> thompa: are you trying to backup a dvd movie?
[00:24] <terrestre> !medibuntu > terrestre
[00:24] <JoshOvki> ProGzZz: i think its possible with wine
[00:25] <JoshOvki> !wine > ProGzZz
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- yeah, I know. I downloaded the DVD anyway, just in case the upgrade went badly
[00:25] <minaqua> thX
[00:25] <Fujisan> amagawd
[00:25] <thompa> mefisto__: no i created a dvd project without realizing that it defaults to duel layer
[00:25] <Fujisan> anarchy is rampant here
[00:25] <ProGzZz> JoshOvki: thanks I'll try it
[00:25] <thompa> mefisto__:starting over will take forever
[00:25] <Fujisan> slipstream support into categories
[00:25] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- welcome to IRC
[00:25] <|Toad> i have a simple question that hopefully has a simple answer.  how do i do the 3d desktop switch?
[00:26] <thompa> mefisto__: file is saved as k3b project,
[00:26] <Fujisan> thanks
[00:26] <mefisto__> thompa: it doesn't default to dual layer, it will adapt to whatever size the project is
[00:26] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- if you think #kubuntu is bad, take a peek in #ubuntu sometime
[00:26] <vmplanet> what can i do to upgrade kde 3.5.9 to KDE 4?
[00:26] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- what version of Kubuntu?
[00:26] <terrestre> minaqua, you can go to add/remove and install ubuntu-restricted-extras, medibuntu its for encripted dvd
[00:26] <thompa> mefisto__: well it allows up to 8G and if you dont watch it then you cant burn
[00:27] <vmplanet> Dragnslcr: its 8.04
[00:27] <Fujisan> lol
[00:27] <thompa> mefisto__: before when i put dvd in i think k3b had the limit of my single layer dvd
[00:27] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- I believe the package is kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[00:27] <thompa> mefisto__: is there a way to split the projecy in half
[00:27] <thompa> *project
[00:27] <Dragnslcr> vmplanet- should be pretty easy to find in Adept
[00:28] <TheGentleman> anyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.
[00:28] <Fujisan> i just see all my questions being scrolled away i mean if a bot would assign a ticket to it so i didnt have to repaste it and someone could just pick it up at some random time and message it back to me that would be better than this chaotic randomness
[00:28] <thompa> mefisto__: it might as well be a bug, because you wont know how much space is left
[00:29] <Fujisan> a little structure can't be that bad plus you could built a nice archive for future references
[00:29] <thompa> guess i got to buy dual layer dvds, ive used k3b for years so this suks
[00:29] <vmplanet> thank you Dragnslcr!
[00:29] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- I'm sure there are channel logs on someone's web site
[00:30] <mefisto__> thompa: just create a new project (it will appear as a new tab) and move half the items into the new project. drag and drop files on the tab of the new project
[00:30] <Fujisan> lol
[00:30] <thompa> mefisto__: thanks, obvious ,
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- if nobody answers your question after 10-15 minutes (or longer, if the channel is quiet), you can repeat it
[00:30] <Fujisan> ok
[00:30] <thompa> thompa: just slipped my mind i guess
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- you can also try asking in the forums
[00:31] <Fujisan> i found an app on kde-apps.org which is a kde version of ding named kding but it isnt in the repos so how do i download and install it?
[00:31] <thompa> thompa: :)
[00:31] <thompa> mefisto__: thanks
[00:32] <Dragnslcr> Fujisan- do they have a .deb that you can download?
[00:32] <flipstar> Fujisan: if it's a .deb download and click it
[00:32] <Fujisan> there is an .rpm
[00:32] <f00f> Fujisan: check if they have a deb package for it, if they do then just download that, if they don't you'll have to install dev packages and compile it.
[00:32] <Fujisan> on this site;
[00:32] <Fujisan> http://packman.links2linux.de/package/kding
[00:32] <flipstar> Fujisan: then convert it into .deb using alien
[00:32] <f00f> install alien, run alien on that rpm, and try that
[00:32] <Fujisan> alien is in the repos?
[00:32] <Fujisan> ok thanks
[00:33] <JackWinter> is there an utility to display network throughout and which program is using what bandwitdh >
[00:33] <crimsun> JackWinter: darkstat
[00:33] <sumant> flipstar: thanks buddy, hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)
[00:34] <wesley> freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand  what dies this mean
[00:34] <minaqua> thX terrestre
[00:34] <flipstar> sumant: just replace Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 in the file with some entry's you found and try
[00:34] <sumant> mefisto__: thanks buddy ,hopefully will get that modem running after a few Konversations :)
[00:34] <sumant> flipstar: yeah am doing that
[00:34] <trident523> JackWinter: Up to you... some are command line. Here's a good link. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[00:34] <navetz> can anyone please help me set up a mail server that will work with php mail();
[00:35] <sumant> flipstar: wvdial needs to be enter in a new shell right?
[00:35] <flipstar> sumant: no, but else there's no output
[00:35] <Fujisan> oh boy alien is commandline only?
[00:35] <flipstar> Fujisan: it needs no arguments
[00:36] <flipstar> just the .deb
[00:37] <sumant> flipstar: u mena just edit the modem line(keep editing the dev/...line
[00:37] <sumant> flipstar: i will change it n try
[00:37] <Fujisan> http://www.getdeb.net/ <-- i'll just try this site instead cmdlines scare me :(
[00:38] <sumant> flipstar: is there a gui method? just curious
[00:39] <richard> Does googleearth run with 8.04? I've installed it and it doesn't appear that it will. . ..
[00:39] <flipstar> sumant: knetworkmanager usally
[00:39] <sumant> flipstar: am trying that then
[00:40] <flipstar> richard: sure..it should you installed via googleearth-package ?
[00:40] <sumant> flipstar: what do u think of ubuntu, is it the same or a bit tougher than Kubuntu, for a new linux user?
[00:41] <flipstar> its just a question of personal preferences
[00:41] <Fujisan> alien -d file [...] < --- is that the proper command to convert .rpm to .deb ?
[00:41] <richard> I just got it running must not have had all the software loaded that I needed. Tried it earlier and it would work. It does now. Thanks for the responses. . . .
[00:41] <sumant> ic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense
[00:42] <sumant> flipstar:  ic, imean i dont know programming, have used Windows all my life...int hta sense
[00:42] <Walzmyn> Anybody here using KDE4?
[00:42] <flipstar> Fujisan: <alien file.deb>
[00:42] <trident523> Walzmyn: I was/can.
[00:42] <flipstar> Fujisan: err sorry <alien file.rpm>
[00:42] <sumant> flipstar: i heard ubuntu has a firewall, that doesnt have a GUI,
[00:43] <Walzmyn> trident523, is it very quite?
[00:43] <Walzmyn> trident523, i've got my volumn maxed, but I can bearly hear anything
[00:43] <sumant> flipstar: in kubuntu  Firestarter has a gui, or does firestarter run on both the OSes
[00:43] <trident523> Walzmyn: It is quiter for me too... and I can't get the mixer to open in it.
[00:43] <flipstar> sumant: sure
[00:44] <sumant> flipstar: so how old are you with linux?
[00:45] <chris32882> how do I search for another computer on the network? samba isn't finding it :(
[00:45] <Walzmyn> trident523, i can get the mixer open, but it's still quite
[00:45] <trident523> chris32882: Another windows computer? Linux? OS X?
[00:45] <chris32882> win xp
[00:46] <trident523> chris32882: Is sharing enabled on the XP computer?
[00:46] <chris32882> yes it is, was before when I had vista on this machine
[00:46] <flipstar> sumant: i use linux since a few years now
[00:46] <chris32882> blah to vista
[00:46] <sumant> flipstar: only linux/
[00:46] <sumant> ?
[00:46] <flipstar> yes
[00:46] <Fujisan> !vista
[00:46] <ubotu> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[00:47] <sumant> flipstar: cool, i too want to use only linux, but just bcos of some programs that i need  at work, n the slow modem
[00:47] <Walzmyn> Good Lord - I've not been following this conversation - but this laptop came with Vista. Lets just say that Kubuntu was a BIG upgrade
[00:47] <sumant> flipstar: have to stick to ms win, linux is way safer than windows i believe
[00:48] <chris32882> yah vista is memory hog
[00:48] <Walzmyn> not just memory - nothing worked. I couldn't do anything.
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> i tried to install it but it says package doesnt exist
[00:49] <chris32882> trident523: yes its sharing, I doubled check to be sure
[00:49] <sumant> ubotu: thanks for thta link
[00:50] <chris32882> ubotu is a bot o.o
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot o.o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <sumant> :)) it says im only a bot
[00:50] <sumant> :))
[00:50] <terrestre> !kvm > eatatjoes2
[00:50] <Fujisan> !humor
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about humor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <terrestre> !kvm > terrestre
[00:50] <Fujisan> !debian
[00:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[00:51] <terrestre> !windows
[00:51] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[00:52] <sumant> flipstar: is this irc same line instant messaging
[00:52] <spaz> 'ello
[00:52] <trident523> !hello | spaz
[00:53] <ubotu> spaz: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[00:53] <sumant> flipstar: i mean how can i add to my buddy list
[00:53] <spaz> i installed kubuntu, but i've had one problem
[00:53] <spaz> hah
[00:53] <spaz> :p
[00:53] <spaz> nice one
[00:53] <spaz> anyway
[00:53] <flipstar> sumant: no, irc and instant messaging are two different things
[00:53] <spaz> the problem is that it hangs on boot
[00:53] <trident523> !ask | spaz
[00:53] <ubotu> spaz: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:53] <spaz> -_-
[00:53] <trident523> Am I a bot?
[00:53] <spaz> !stop-using-the-bot-:P
[00:53] <flipstar> eatatjoes2: vmware is not in the repo's you got to grab it from the website
[00:53] <spaz> anyway
[00:53] <wesley> how do i get cpufreq_powersave on
[00:54] <eatatjoes2> i was wondering if anyone knew how to install vmware?
[00:54] <spaz> it hangs on boot, right after saying "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20"
[00:54] <trident523> !virturalbox | eatatjoes2
[00:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virturalbox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:54] <trident523> ... whoops.
[00:54] <spaz> haha
[00:54] <mefisto__> isn't the package vmware-server ??
[00:54] <trident523> !VirtualBox | eatatjoes2
[00:54] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[00:54] <eatatjoes2> i tried that
[00:54] <chris32882> trident523: is there something else I can use to to find   the other computer?
[00:54] <trident523> Oh.
[00:55] <flipstar> !find vmware-server
[00:55] <ubotu> No packages matching 'vmware-server' could be found
[00:55] <trident523> eatatjoes2: Well, you can install vmware, but I tried it once, and I nothing that exciting happned.
[00:55] <eatatjoes2> is virtualbox better than vmware for running xp?
[00:55] <macisp2000> anyone know why my compiz manager is not showing the icons next to each checkmark box settings?
[00:55] <trident523> eatatjoes2: I think so, but I haven't tried it yet.
[00:56] <spaz> oh yay. i got stuck in busybox.
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> eatatjoes2: its simpler to set up, yes
[00:56] <wesley> how set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?
[00:56] <chris32882> hmm
[00:56] <trident523> spaz: something didn't boot correctly aparrently.
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> Couldn't find package vmware-server
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> is the error i get
[00:56] <spaz> trident523, apparently :\
[00:57] <flipstar> eatatjoes2: use kvm if you need to run vmware images
[00:58] <xenol> can anyone tell me how can i make xorg to start  up at boot? i started with minimal cd :>
[00:58] <wesley> !talking against stones
[00:58] <minaqua> the only prob I have had is that when I try to use the proprietary video driver my system gets sOoOoOoOoO slow
[00:58] <TheGentleman> anyone knows how to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate CD ? it doesn't work following instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu.
[00:58] <trident523> minaqua: What kind of graphics hard do you have?
[00:58] <minaqua> anyone know how 2 fiX?
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> TheGentleman: what you do is boot up 7.10, then pop in the alternate
[00:59] <minaqua> nVidia
[00:59] <trident523> TheGentleman: Where does it hang?
[00:59] <spaz> ugh
[00:59] <spaz> ><
[00:59] <TheGentleman> nosrednaekim, and trident523 : it simply says cdromupgrade: command not found
[01:00] <teddy_> hello. I have a question about compiling a custom kernel. dont know if this is really the place to ask though
[01:00] <flipstar> wesley: running powernowd .. ?
[01:00] <spaz> ugh
[01:00] <spaz> :(
[01:00] <Dragnslcr> I had the same problem using the DVD
[01:00]  * spaz headdesks
[01:00] <crimsun> teddy_: see man make-kpkg, which means you need the 'kernel-package' package installed.
[01:00] <teddy_> does anyone know what "proccessor family" an amd sempron 3000+ is?
[01:00] <teddy_> i know that i just meant an option in the menuconfig
[01:01] <wesley> flipstar how ?
[01:01] <trident523> TheGentleman: So, you've burned the alt-cd, correct? Well, if you add it as a repository (if I remembered how to do that in adept) you can force an upgrade from that, I think.
[01:01] <flipstar> teddy_: why not using xconfgi .. ?
[01:01] <flipstar> *xconfig
[01:01] <trident523> spaz: my desk would break if I headesked it.
[01:01] <teddy_> well i actually found the menuconfig easier
[01:01] <flipstar> teddy_: okay but there it is described
[01:02] <TheGentleman> that's an idea trident523   Still, there is poor quality information on the website
[01:02] <flipstar> wesley: go to services and start..?
[01:02] <trident523> TheGentleman: Let me boot into KDE to try to follow the directions through-ish... and to see where the add CD as repo thing is.
[01:02] <thompa> k3b is a little tricky at first for 2 single layer dvds
[01:02] <thompa> for new user ie
[01:03] <TheGentleman> thanks trident no need to do that:
[01:03] <spaz> yay i fixed it
[01:03] <TheGentleman>  i think i can manage it myself.  thanks for thinking a simle solution
[01:03] <spaz> lol
[01:03] <spaz> i have no room to actually headdesk
[01:04] <thompa> mefisto__: it worked in k3b but you have to complete the first half of 8g first
[01:04] <ahmos> hi. i noticed in kubuntu gusty that when i click an icon it animates (zoom in).which programme responsible of that animation?
[01:04] <spaz> not a program ahmos, it's part of the desktop
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> spaz: haha
[01:04] <spaz> brb
[01:04] <TheGentleman> thanks trident523  i apreciate your help, but i think i can manage it by myself now  ;-)
[01:04] <thompa> mefisto__: its not obvious if you have a large file size more than dvd capacity
[01:04] <trident523> TheGentleman: Kay... do this. open Adept.. really? m'kay.
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> ahmos: go into kcontrol->appearance->launch feedback I think
[01:05] <thompa> this is the best kde setup yet
[01:05] <teddy_> found it out.. x config didnt work. i just had a suspicion to google k7 family :)
[01:05] <trident523> thompa: Your computer? Kubuntu? Me? *please be me*
[01:05] <TheGentleman> yes trident523  and anyway i guess the problem is in some way related to how the cd is mounted
[01:05] <trident523> TheGentleman: My CD pops up in Software sources as checkable... then follow the directions from there.
[01:06] <TheGentleman> ok thanks again trident523 !  :)
[01:06] <ahmos> ok thank u all..but does it something related to kwin or kicker?
[01:06] <trident523> Oh, #kubuntu... does anyone know of a mac comp... eh plan B.
[01:06] <thompa> trident523: only problem is the walkman bug
[01:06] <trident523> Does anyone know of a mac-centric channel on freenode?
[01:07] <wesley> get this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8288/
[01:08] <thompa> so anyone know how to get walkman to automount? Its since a kernel upgrade i think?
[01:09] <Tailsfan> Hello, does anyone else have trobule comfiguring the Ralink Drivers from Source?
[01:11] <sumant> flipstar: thanks for the help, take care
[01:11] <thompa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/209483
[01:11] <sumant> flipstar: whats ur id on IMs?
[01:11] <Tailsfan> because I wanted my one adapter to show up as rausb0 and not wlan#
[01:12] <thompa> *link to walkman bug
[01:16] <Jimmy1> hello
[01:16] <Tailsfan> Hi There, having problems too?
[01:16] <Jimmy1> hahah
[01:16] <Jimmy1> as always
[01:16] <spaz> wtf :(
[01:17] <spaz> now X went crazy
[01:17] <spaz> i tried restarting kdm
[01:17] <spaz> and even x11-common
[01:17] <spaz> but now i try to use X and it's just a blank black screen
[01:18] <nosrednaekim> spaz: do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to get a new config
[01:19] <spaz> nosrednaekim, didn't modify it, but same story
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok
[01:20]  * spaz attemps a reboot
[01:21] <wesley> how set i cpufreq_powersave  on ?
[01:21] <AMIGrAve> got an nvidia 8800M and xorg starts at 800x600. Came to drivers management and saw nvidia_new checked but a label on the right tells : "not in used". What should I do ?
[01:21] <Jimmy1> OOOO
[01:21] <Jimmy1> im a noob but i think i can help
[01:21] <Jimmy1> click administrator mode
[01:21] <Jimmy1> and enable it
[01:22] <Jimmy1> :)
[01:22] <Fujisan> guys
[01:22]  * Tailsfan wishes that the Ralink Drivers aren't a pain in the rear end to configure
[01:24] <thompa> AMIGrAve: can you disable renable?
[01:24] <thompa> sry
[01:24] <AMIGrAve> thompa: ok, gonna try that. Have to reboot each time because wifi not working
[01:25] <Makuseru> hi, i just installed 8.04+KDE4 and i accidently closed the taskbar, how do i get it back?
[01:25] <thompa> AMIGrAve: is it an acer?
[01:25] <AMIGrAve> thompa: HP Pavillon HDX
[01:25] <thompa> i got enough probs with atheros and acpi
[01:26] <Tailsfan> I keep on getting errors that invilve with the string SET_MODULE_OWNER
[01:26] <artint> troll alert
[01:26] <artint> troll alert
[01:26] <thompa> you have to uncheck the hardware devices boxes and then get the one from madwifi
[01:26] <Tailsfan> ???
[01:26] <Tailsfan> What troll alert
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Makuseru: run "killall plasma && rm .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc && plasma"
[01:27] <thompa> someone who posts same thing twice I think
[01:28] <Makuseru> nosrednaekim: thanks
[01:28] <GS3User> hi, i'm having some network troubles. i recently switched to using openDNS on my router, and now my kubuntu 7.10 box is not seen on my local network. it cannot successfully ping either the router, or my xp box, but it does have access to the internet. how do i fix this?
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: you can't ping local IP's?
[01:29] <artint> troll alert troll alert troll alert
[01:29] <Makuseru> is there a simple way to remove KDE4 and install KDE3?
[01:29] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- install kubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: no, pinging 192.168.0.1 (my router) fails, as does 192.168.0.20 (my XP box). Also, my XP box cannot ping Kubuntu either
[01:30] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: wow... thats odd... what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[01:30] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: kicks out a list of DNS servers
[01:30] <Makuseru> Dragnslcr: and how do i remove KDE4?
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> Makuseru- you don't have to, unless you really need the disk space
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> can you pastebin it?
[01:32] <eatatjoes2> does anyone have a tutorial or something for install vmware on hardy?
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> !vmware
[01:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:32] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: http://pastebin.com/mb88b6cd
[01:33] <eatatjoes2> what about vmware server
[01:33] <NDPTAL85> Does Kubuntu have issues with HDs say 6GB large?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: my resolv.conf actuallyhas its first line as "search lan"
[01:34] <artint> t r o l l         a l e r t !
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: maybe thats significant?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: for installation?
[01:34] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: should i edit it?
[01:34] <NDPTAL85> nosrednaekim: I'm able to install but it won't boot
[01:34] <Dragnslcr> NDPTAL85- that should be enough space if you just need a web browser and Kopete
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> Then I don't know whats going on.
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> This is so strange
[01:35] <NDPTAL85> I've put the drive in another computer and am re-installing Kubuntu to see if it'll work there
[01:36] <artint>  t R o L l             A l E r T
[01:36] <NDPTAL85> artint: Why do you keep doing that? Who is the troll?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yeah... why not :)
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> Hey all, has anyone had a problem shutting down/restarting?  Xserver seems to lockup after closing applications
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> NDPTAL85: he is.. duh :P
[01:36] <MilitantPotato> using sudo shutdown -r now works fine though.
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: do you have an ATI
[01:37] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: without the quotes, right?
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> yes, with the 8.4 fglrx
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yes
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: yep.. annoying isn't it?
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: is this a hardy problem?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: its a fglrx problem
[01:37] <MilitantPotato> Odd, worked in feisty.  Bummer
[01:38] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: still getting the same error when I ping my router
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: you have to restart networking
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> after editing that file
[01:38] <artint> thank god that troll is gone
[01:38] <artint> he was flooding me
[01:38] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: is there an easy way to do that?
[01:38] <MilitantPotato> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart GS3User
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: yeah.... some other guy and I spent a long time trying to figure out how to circumvent it....nothing
[01:39] <navetz> can someone here help me set up postfix?
[01:39] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: could I make some sort of shortcut on the desktop to run sudo shutdown -r now?
[01:39] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: restarting networking didn't help either
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> without the GS3User of course :)
[01:39] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: of course
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> MilitantPotato: make it "kdesudo" so that you get a nice password dialog
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: will do, easier then ctrl+alt+f1
[01:40] <MilitantPotato> nosrednaekim: do I need " of some sort?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> no
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> oh... yeah
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> kdesudo "command"
[01:41] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: any other ideas?
[01:41] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: no <_<
[01:41] <MilitantPotato> kdesudo "blah -r now"
[01:41] <MilitantPotato> ?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[01:43] <MilitantPotato> hmm, where are Icon themes stored?
[01:44] <nosrednaekim> the ocns should be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[01:46] <GS3User> anyone else familiar with troubleshooting kubuntu's networking?
[01:47] <chris32882> not me
[01:47] <chris32882> havingt a problem with it too
[01:47] <chris32882> using samba trying to find my xp computer
[01:47] <GS3User> chris32822: kubuntu can't even ping my router (but xp can). neither computer sees the other, but both have access to the 'net
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: hmmmm try something. add your router as a nameserver
[01:49] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: nope, still says "Destination port unreachable" when I try and ping
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> woah... never seent hat error before
[01:50] <santiago-ve> which error?
[01:50] <GS3User> "destination port unreachable" when trying to ping my router
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: might want to google that error
[01:51] <chris32882> hmm
[01:52] <santiago-ve> GS3User: did you disabled pings from inside the lan?
[01:52] <santiago-ve> my router has that sexy option
[01:52] <GS3User> santiago-ve: my XP box can ping the router without issue
[01:53] <santiago-ve> ok, that's weird then
[01:53] <santiago-ve> :S
[01:53] <GS3User> santiago-ve: yeah
[01:54] <santiago-ve> GS3User: ping -b <routerip>
[01:55] <GS3User> santiago-ve: still getting the destination port unreachable deal
[01:57] <matt___> just wondering if anyone knew of any really nice screensavers for linux, exluding electric sheep
[01:57] <chris32882> I am unable to view webcam in kopete, where can I get jasper image converter..says I need it
[01:59] <Taladan> chris32882: try sudo apt-get install libjasper-runtime
[02:00] <chris32882> ty Taladan
[02:00]  * Taladan nods
[02:00] <chris32882> I was trying jasper that didn't work
[02:00] <santiago-ve> GS3User: and that0s the machine youre connected from?
[02:00] <Taladan> chris32882: something that will help you in the future: apt-cache search <string>
[02:01] <Taladan> too late...
[02:01] <GS3User> santiago-ve: i am currently on the machine that's having problems, yes
[02:03] <shree_> anyone in there who knows how to perform voice chat in kubuntu using gmail id
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shree_: you can't currently
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> shree_: yell at google for that :)
[02:04] <MilitantPotato> google is probably working on it
[02:04] <shree_> nosrednaekim: is it possible to install the gnome apps in kde like ladnell, ereseva
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> oh eys
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> *yes
[02:05] <sponix> ... kde4 ... say I want to install "kubuntu-desktop" from my normal ubuntu-desktop install, but with kde4, is there an easy way to go about that ?
[02:05] <MilitantPotato> kde4-base IIRC
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> yeah... kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:06] <MilitantPotato> ah, nvm
[02:06] <MilitantPotato> I'm holding out for 4.1
[02:06] <Taladan> hm, I though tit was kde4-core
[02:06] <shree_> nosrednaekim: do you know any reason why the apps are gnome based but not kde based
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> shree_: some pogrammers prefer different toolkits
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> "gnome based" are written in gtk, KDE based are written in Qt
[02:07] <shree_> nosrednaekim: has there been any positive resposne from people who have tried to install ladnell, ereseva etc on kde
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> if its in the repositories, it will work in ANY desktop manager
[02:08] <MilitantPotato> the memory leak I had in gutsy seems to be gone, thankfully
[02:08] <shree_> nosrednaekim: as in when i try sudo apt-get, it doesnt recognize those app names
[02:08] <GS3User> how do i edit my kernel ip routing table?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> shree_: where are you looking at getting them from then?
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: try apt-cache search <package>
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: "man route"
[02:09] <MilitantPotato> shree_: open synaptic?
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: it'll get the correct package name for you
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: but you probably want to enable all your repos in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[02:09] <Taladan> shree_: Except for the cdrom repo, at least.
[02:09] <shree_> how do i do that
[02:09] <GS3User> nosrednaekim: let me rephrase... how do i edit the source of the output from the command "netstat -rn"
[02:10] <shree_> Taladan: how do i enable the repos
[02:10] <Taladan> shree_: which cli text editor do you use?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> GS3User: yeah.. with route
[02:10] <shree_> Taladan: vi editor
[02:11] <Taladan> shree - sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak  then sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <Taladan> Then remove the # from each line that starts with deb<foo>
[02:12] <Taladan> then :wq, then sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <shree_> nosrednaekim: i was thinking of downloading it from their svn repos
[02:13] <shree_> nosrednaekim: but as you say it is possible that i  have not enavbled a ll the repos on my system
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> shree_: well, you'll have to compile manually. BUt I assure you, anything that will rum in GNOME will run in KDE, you just need the proper libraries
[02:13] <shree_> nosrednaekim: so i will need to install the gnome libraries rite
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:15] <Taladan> shree_: generally if you use apt-get install <package> it will fulfill the dependencies with the correct libraries - assuming the package is indeed in the reop
[02:15] <Taladan> shree_: what are you trying to install?
[02:15] <rydan> Just installed 8.04 with KDE4.  I saw screenshots where someone had comic strips on a widget. it's not on the list here.  anyone know how i can add it?
[02:15] <shree_> Taladan: i want to install either landell or ereseva but it doesnt show up on my apt-cache result
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> rydan: grab the package "plasma-extragear" or extragear-plasma... nto sure which
[02:16] <rydan> thank you!
[02:17] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: is it possible that i download from their svn and then use sudo spt-get.....kinda idea
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> shree_: no...
[02:17] <Taladan> shree_: no
[02:17] <shree_> nosrednaekim: Taladan: :)
[02:18] <Taladan> shree_: Though...iirc there is a way to use make and dpkg together to fulfill prereqs for a package....been a year since I've done that though
[02:18] <shree_> Taladan: iirc???
[02:18] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: I am not upto that level
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> if I remember correctly
[02:18] <Taladan> (if I remember correctly)
[02:19] <Taladan> or you could check their sites and see if they have a .deb available and just install that with dpkg
[02:20] <shree_> Taladan: crap... they have a i386 deb not a amd64
[02:21] <wizard_> can someone give me a more up-to-date guide on compiz fusion for hardy?
[02:21] <Taladan> shree_: good luck with that one then...I was never able to get i386 stuff working in a 64 environment, though I know there's others who have
[02:22] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: you wouldnt recommend using the source code to create the package??
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> shree_: its not exactly easy
[02:23] <Taladan> shree_: I would research it first and see if there's anyone else running it in a 64 bit environment and if so what steps they took to get it to work
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> but you can't really ruin anything either, so give it a shot :)
[02:23] <Taladan> point
[02:24] <Taladan> the most you'll do is compile it, futz with it for 6 hours until you're angry at yourself, the machine, and the entire world then just rm -rf the directory you installed it into.
[02:24] <shree_> Taladan: : :)
[02:25] <Taladan> though...
[02:25] <Taladan> you do know that skype will run on kubuntu/ubuntu, right?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> yea
[02:25] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ok
[02:25] <lelle> i got 4gigs and installed kubuntu 64-bit, but still only see 3gigs. what's up with that?
[02:26] <Taladan> The one thing that i've found about most of the voip stuff I use is that I can (usually) get it working fairly well on my machine, but when I want to talk to most windows users it's like pulling teeth to get them to install anything else on their machines, and most of them know of skype at least tangentially
[02:26] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: can i contact gmail users from skype
[02:26] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??
[02:26] <Taladan> hmm...I dunno
[02:27] <Taladan> I think it's just skype-centric
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> shree_: don't think so
[02:27] <Taladan> but...
[02:27] <Taladan> hm...not that I know of
[02:29] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: I guess I should yell at Google, for leaving the last piece of this puzzle hidden
[02:31] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: ??
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> yep :)
[02:32] <Taladan> sure....though I wouldn't hold my breath for a solution.  Best bet is to try and figure out how to get the other stuff you've found to work in your environment.  A few hours research may turn up something wholly useful
[02:33] <shree_> Taladan: nosrednaekim: hmm. let me see what I can do. there is another arvind who is also helping me
[02:37] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, everything needs to be complied from SVN ,its a real pain
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> lelle: whats "uname -a" say?
[02:39] <Taladan> hm...sounds like it's something that's extremely bleeding edge yet and will, at best, work only partially
[02:39] <arvind_khadri> yeah ... its time we had a .deb for a nice complete messenger
[02:40]  * Taladan nods
[02:40] <Taladan> hence why I tend to use pidgin for all IM needs and skype for all voip needs
[02:40] <haettulegur> im having a 'fsck failed' problem -- can anyone please help?
[02:40] <lelle> nosrednaekim: Linux soda 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:40]  * arvind_khadri smiles
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> lelle: and the output of "free -m" first line will do
[02:41] <Taladan> it's not that much of a hassle, though it would be nice to have a good dependable client that handled both
[02:41] <thefuzz4> does anyone have any suggestions about when I log out the computer just goes to a blank screen and I have to ctrl alt del a lot to get it to reboot?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> thefuzz4: you have an ATI card, right?
[02:41] <thefuzz4> yep
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> thefuzz4: UHHH! I hate that bug :)
[02:41] <lelle> nosrednaekim: Mem:          3019        767       2251          0         54        400   (note: integrated nforce GF7100 got 256megs)
[02:41] <arvind_khadri> actually everything even cams..kopete does but is kinda sluggish doesnt read from the other end if its windows
[02:41] <Taladan> haettulegur: what'd you do /before/ you go the fsck failed msg?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> lelle: thats most interesting.... sure you don't have some bad ram there?
[02:42] <Taladan> arvind_khadri: exactly....hence why I use each seperately
[02:42] <haettulegur> Taladan: i restarted the system (everything was running sort of slowly)
[02:42] <totocool> Hi all i`ve installed the extra widgets package for kde 4 but there are no extra widgets, when i tried to install a single widget from kde-look.org , but when i try to view the new widgets - there are no new widgets
[02:42] <Taladan> haettulegur: how did you restart it?
[02:42] <totocool> any idea how to install them
[02:43] <haettulegur> Taladan: start -> log off -> restart
[02:43] <Taladan> and what fs are you using?
[02:43] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, i am using Windows only for the cam reason :)
[02:43] <totocool> I`m using the .deb packages for kubuntu
[02:43] <osiris> hello.  just updated to hardy, and have sudoers issues.
[02:43] <haettulegur> Taladan: ? (im a newb, not sure what you're asking)
[02:43] <osiris>  sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[02:43] <osiris> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 12 <<<
[02:43] <osiris> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 12
[02:43] <lelle> nosrednaekim: 2 x 2gig memory-sticks ... even memtest says 3gig ... and the Gigabyte motherboard says it supports up to 4gigs. Can't find any bios option either.
[02:44] <Taladan> haettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?
[02:44] <thefuzz4> lelle: are you running 32 or 64bit?
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> lelle: I'm thinkin the MB doesn't support it
[02:44] <shree_> Taladan: a quick question, when a source code is written, is it meant for a particular architecture or does it depend on where you compile it
[02:44] <lelle> thefuzz4: 64 bit
[02:44] <haettulegur> Taladan: sorry, i got disconnected. last thing you asked was what fs i was using. im not sure
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> shree_: most Open source programs can be compiled on either
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Taladan: though sometimes they do write specific code for either
[02:45] <Taladan> haettulegur: when you installed it did you format your partitions standard or did you change them to something like vfat or reiserfs or ext2?
[02:45]  * Taladan nods to nosrednaekim 
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> *shree_: ^^
[02:45] <haettulegur> Taladan: i just followed the standard installation
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> Taladan: sorry, wrong nicl :P
[02:45] <shree_> nosrednaekim: i didnt understand that
[02:45] <Taladan> haettulegur: that means you're using the ext3 filesystem
[02:45] <olrrai> hello
[02:45] <shree_> nosrednaekim:  :0
[02:46] <arvind_khadri> shree_, sometimes the package comes arch dependent
[02:46] <Taladan> are you logged into a maintenance cli there?
[02:46] <shree_> nosrednaekim:  :)
[02:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: btw, im fine with just finding a way to backup all my data (i was in the middle of a backup when my hd crashed!!), and then reformatting everything if that's easier
[02:46] <Taladan> cli - command line interface
[02:46] <olrrai> do u know a good video editor and video format converter?
[02:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: yes
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> olrrai: try avidemux
[02:46] <olrrai> ok
[02:46] <Taladan> Okay, give me a minute to dig...been a bit
[02:47] <shree_> arvind_khadri: hmmm. then it is a problem
[02:47] <haettulegur> Taladan: im at the state where...it said to run fsck manually, so i typed 'fsck. and now it says "error reading block *some numbers* whel getting next inode from scan. Ignore error?"
[02:47] <Taladan> can you private me with the output of the command -> mount
[02:47] <arvind_khadri> shree_, about wat??
[02:47] <Taladan> hm
[02:47] <shree_> arvind_khadri: if it is arch dpeendent
[02:47] <Taladan> try CTRL+C
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> shree_, which package??
[02:48] <Taladan> haettulegur: sorry, try CTRL+C then type: fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1
[02:48] <matt__> after trying out the compiz desktop settings crap, i decided to uninstall compiz*, but now what do i need to do to get back to the normalcy?
[02:48] <haettulegur> Taladan: "no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda1. The superblock could not be read..."
[02:48] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i mean if either landell or ereseva is arch dependent, then we will not land up wih a working isntallation
[02:49] <Taladan> haettulegur: then try /dev/sda1
[02:49] <Dragnslcr> matt__- if compiz is still running, you can run kwin --replace
[02:49] <haettulegur> Taladan: "you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck -b 8193 <device>"
[02:49] <arvind_khadri> shree_, they arent arch dependent ... as they are scripts checking your environment and setting theselves properly
[02:49] <Taladan> oy....you've got a corrupted superblock and I can't remember how to figure out where the next valid sb is
[02:49] <haettulegur> Taladan: ah, ok, it's running a check again now
[02:49] <matt__> Dragnslcr: i'll give it a try
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> shree_, i cant compress a whole big concept in some few lines :) that was confusing
[02:50] <shree_> arvind_khadri: what you mean is that, if they detect a different arch, they will report a error
[02:50] <haettulegur> Taladan: (the /dev/sda1 thing is running)
[02:50] <shree_> arvind_khadri: in case they are arch dependent
[02:51] <haettulegur> Taladan: is there a way of using a livecd and backing up all my data from that? (it's just what i've seen from some random googling, so just curious)
[02:51] <arvind_khadri> shree_, in case they are arch dependent they wont install spitting errors .... but AFAIK sources from SVN arent arch dependent or even if they are the tool using to get them resolves it and gets the one you need to have
[02:52] <chris32882> I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system
[02:52] <shree_> kk
[02:52] <Taladan> haettulegur: *nods*  You might also check out a -> "cat /etc/fstab" when that's done and look for a line that looks like UUID=<some big alphanumeric>    ext3  defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1   and make sure that's the only line in there that has a '1' in the last column.
[02:52] <ubuntu> hey
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> hello ubuntu
[02:53] <Taladan> haettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.
[02:53] <shree_> arvind_khadri: do you think we will give a try compiling it. I have not much of an idea :). I will need guidance
[02:53] <Taladan> haettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across
[02:53] <arvind_khadri> shree_, that would be on a bleeding edge ... actually would need to read the source first ...
[02:53] <haettulegur_> ack, sorry, poor wireless (but i'm wired now :))
[02:54] <ubuntu> i am new to kubuntu, just now came , any body give the ebook to kubuntu
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: sure, you can use a livecd and mount up your harddrive and pull all of your data either to another machine or to a partition you create onto the drive with something like qpart or gparted.<resay>
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> shree_, i can help am not saying no,but may take up the whole day
[02:54] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ah, im getting the same error as beffore: 'error reading block...while getting next inode from scan. ignore error?'
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: but first let the fsck go through - it's pretty adaptive and can generally fix any fs errors it comes across<resay>
[02:54] <Taladan> haettulegur: does it give you the superblock number?
[02:54] <shree_> arvind_khadri: isnt it that it is about running the configure script, make and then install
[02:54] <haettulegur_> Taladan: error reading block 21233684
[02:55] <arvind_khadri> shree_, :) not always you need to check if it requires something else
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, make sometimes takes hours to run
[02:56] <shree_> you mean some other packages?
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, yeah
[02:56] <Taladan> haettulegur: okay...this is going to be a little...um...weird
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> shree_, libs
[02:56] <Taladan> haettulegur: type: dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 > fsinfo.txt
[02:56] <haettulegur_> Taladan: so I should ctrl-c out of this to get to a command line first?
[02:57] <Taladan> haettulegur: yeah
[02:57] <shree_> arvind_khadri: do you think that info should be in the readme file of the tar ball
[02:57] <ubuntu> Taladan: is there any link of the kubuntu?
[02:57] <ubuntu> ebook
[02:57] <shree_> arvind_khadri: brb
[02:57] <ubuntu> ?
[02:57] <arvind_khadri> shree_, yeah there would be a requirements file ... you can find wat it needs
[02:57] <Taladan> ubuntu: hm?
[02:58] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ctrl-c-ing doesn't work (it just brought me to a new 'error-reading-block')
[02:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: hrm.  Try CTRL+C again
[02:58] <haettulegur_> Taladan: nope, no command line
[02:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: try ALT+F2
[02:59] <kubKid> ?
[02:59] <Taladan> can't remember if it opens up the other ttys in maintenance mode or not
[02:59] <haettulegur_> Taladan: just a black screen
[02:59] <Taladan> haettulegur: ALT+F1 then
[02:59] <Taladan> kubKid: I don't understand your question
[02:59] <arvind_khadri> Taladan, that ctrl+alt+f1
[03:00] <haettulegur_> Taladan: 'starting up...*some stuff*...no resume image, doing normal boot'
[03:00] <Taladan> arvind_khadri: if he's at CLI the ctrl shouldn't matter, but it can't hurt, might help just in case
[03:00] <Taladan> haettulegur: hit CTRL+D
[03:00]  * arvind_khadri smiles
[03:00] <minaqua> anyone happen to know to fix the video driver issue that is slowing my computer?
[03:00] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ctrl-D and ctrl-alt-f1 do nothing
[03:01] <Taladan> haettulegur: hate to say this then, it sounds like you may be frozen...I would first try rebooting the machine and let it try to fsck itself on initial boot...it may be able to recover the bad superblock, but I'm doubtful at this point
[03:02] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok. ill get a livecd in the meantime :)
[03:02] <Taladan> haettulegur: yeah, do that, because even if you don't end up reinstalling your system, you can still repair it with the livecd
[03:03] <chris32882> I need help networking with my xp computer with kubuntu, I'm using samba but I can't see my xp system
[03:03] <chris32882> and my xp system is sharing
[03:03] <Taladan> chris32882: are you using simple file sharing on XP?
[03:03] <chris32882> was able to share with this pc, with vista before install of kubuntu
[03:04] <chris32882> I'm not sure, its just set up to share
[03:04] <Taladan> Then you're using simple file sharing
[03:04] <chris32882> ok than I am :)
[03:04] <TeslaTony> How do I go about locking my home directory out so other users can't view my files?
[03:05] <Taladan> When you open up network folders->samba shares on kubuntu what does it say?
[03:05] <Taladan> TeslaTony: chmod -R 700 /home/<user>
[03:05] <chris32882> it shows my home folder
[03:05] <haettulegur_> Taladan: how exactly do i boot into a livecd?
[03:05] <chris32882> on this machine
[03:06] <Taladan> haettulegur: drop it into the tray and let it boot from it.  If your bios isn't configured to boot from a CD before the hdd though you'll have to reconfig the boot order in the bios
[03:06] <shree_> arvind_khadri: hey, iam looking through this tar ball. it has some files and scripts like  like NEWS, README,mkinstalldirs, configure, makefile etc. install etc.
[03:06] <Taladan> chris32882: and you're sure samba is running?
[03:06] <TeslaTony> Taladan: Thanks.
[03:07] <Taladan> TeslaTony: welcome
[03:07] <arvind_khadri> shree_, which one??
[03:07] <chris32882> no I am not sure, how do I check to see if its running? I figured it was since the sama shares folder was there
[03:07] <Taladan> chris32882: open a terminal and type ps -ef|grep smb
[03:07] <shree_> arvind_khadri: oh, landell
[03:07] <chris32882> k
[03:07] <ronnie> any know if kubunu reads prefetch , bios, interrupt channels,??, they were set when I bought this old computer, but I have the option to put them on auto which lets the operating system choose config, wow I almost sound like a teckie geek lol
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, from where did you get the source??
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i am looking at the tar ball from sourceforge
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, ok
[03:08] <arvind_khadri> shree_, so you want to get it working?
[03:08] <chris32882> arlight, done
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/landell/landell0.2_0.2.0.orig.tar.gz?modtime=1156779568&big_mirror=0
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: yup
[03:08] <shree_> arvind_khadri: BTW, where r u?
[03:09] <arvind_khadri> shree_, am in Bangalore....you
[03:09] <chris32882> want me to paste what it says in here?
[03:09] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm...so while trying to reboot into the livecd (i guess it's not configured to boot into a cd before the hd) i managed to get into what i think is a working command line (it asked me to login, and now ls and such works)
[03:09] <shree_> arvind_khadri: I am in Virginia
[03:09] <shree_> arvind_khadri: are you working
[03:09] <Taladan> chris32882: if it's got something besides 'grep smb' in there, then it's probably running.  Try a sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:09] <haettulegur_> Taladan: should i just try plugging an external hd in, and cp-ing everything over?
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, am a student and got a test tomorrow :)
[03:10] <shree_> arvind_khadri: which college
[03:10] <Taladan> haettulegur: well, which livecd are you using?
[03:10] <haettulegur_> Taladan: or actually booting into the livecd?
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, AMC Bannerghata road
[03:10] <haettulegur_> Taladan: livecd is kubuntu 7.10
[03:10] <arvind_khadri> shree_, pm me
[03:10] <shree_> arvind_khadri: good. i am a PESITian
[03:11] <Taladan> hm...it shouldn't boot directly into a commandline.  But it didn't say anything about fsck errors when you booted?
[03:11] <arvind_khadri> shree_, dont want to be scolded here :)
[03:11] <chris32882> says command not found
[03:11] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i guess you can study now
[03:11] <Taladan> chris32882: try changing samba to smb
[03:11] <haettulegur_> Taladan: err...yeah, nevermind...it now spontaneously is giving me errors. ill try going  into the livecd again
[03:11] <chris32882> still the same
[03:11] <shree_> arvind_khadri: i know the pressure of internals. lol
[03:11]  * Taladan can't remember which one it's put there under
[03:11] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what errors is it giving you?
[03:12] <lelle> nosrednaekim: SUCCESS! there was a new bios which fixed detecting wrong mem sizes ... now I have all my memory, wonder if I can go back to 32bit and still have all? 64bit seems to have slight issues still
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> lelle: no.. you can't
[03:13] <haettulegur_> Taladan: the same errors it gave me when i tried to fsck, i think. (not sure--i rebooted.) should i select 'start or install kubuntu' or 'start kubuntu in safe graphics mode' now?
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> but thats awesome :)
[03:13] <Taladan> start or install k
[03:14] <chris32882> hmm
[03:15] <ronnie> is anyone else finding kubuntu (hearty) takes longer to boot up than (gutsy)?, maybe I have some tweaking to work out = )
[03:15] <Taladan> chris32882: still the same what...is it not restarting samba?
[03:16] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, im now in. how do i copy my old folders over?
[03:16] <ronnie> or guess it could be the almost 25,000 package choices making it slower = )
[03:17] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what you're going to want to do is open a terminal, then type sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd
[03:17] <Taladan> haettulegur_: then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/hdd
[03:17] <chris32882> Taladan: its saying "command not found"
[03:17] <Taladan> chris32882: what exactly are you typing?
[03:18] <chris32882> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and that didn't work, so I did udo /etc/init.d/smb restart
[03:19] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok
[03:19] <Taladan> haettulegur_: then you're going to want to make sure that your external hdd is mounted up (k should show it mounted on the desktop as a usb dev), open that up in a window and then open up another file browser window and navigate over to /mnt/hdd/home/<user> and then copy everything from one window to the other
[03:19] <Taladan> chris32882: udo or sudo?
[03:20] <Taladan> chris32882: where was the typo initially?
[03:20] <chris32882> sudo
[03:20] <chris32882> I miss typed it here
[03:21] <Taladan> chris32882: then I'd try typing sudo apt-get install samba
[03:21] <Taladan> chris32882: because it sounds like samba's not installed on that machine
[03:21] <chris32882> ok
[03:21] <chris32882> I'll try that now
[03:21] <earlh> has anyone here noticed that hardy is slow to shutdown / logout,  as well as locking up during these operations using ati fglrx
[03:22] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm, any idea why it says 'access denied' to certain files? (files that shouldn't have any special permissions...eg, pdf files that i made at the same time as others that don't get an access denied)
[03:22] <chris32882> installing now
[03:22] <Taladan> haettulegur_: could be set read only.  What I'd do is open up a terminal and type: sudo chmod -R 777 /mnt/hdd/home/
[03:23] <chris32882> installed, and started..checking seeing if its sharing
[03:25] <chris32882> Taladan: its a no go, still the same
[03:26] <chris32882> wont show other computer
[03:26]  * Taladan tries to remember how samba works...been a little bit
[03:26] <chris32882> heh makes 2 of us
[03:27] <Taladan> iirc, the last time I futzed around with samba, it just automagically picked up the windows shares.  Are you sure that the folders are still shared on the windows machines?  Also have you tried to smbmount the folders?
[03:27] <daemon3> Even though Hardy is cool, it wasn't as cool as I was expecting it to be.
[03:27] <daemon3> :)
[03:27] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, great!! thank you so (do while true loop) much!
[03:28] <daemon3> I just wanted to say..."Good job developers!"
[03:28] <haettulegur_> if i could bake you cookies or something (virtual cookies?), i definitely would :)
[03:28] <Taladan> haettulegur_: *chuckles*  Well, we can still try and repair your os before you nuke it if you want
[03:28] <Taladan> haettulegur_: but you're welcome
[03:29] <ScarEye> Hey guys.  I got unbuntu 8.04 installed on this laptop and I got compiz installed also.  I need to know where the config is to have the cube effect.  I am only getting a 2D effect right now.
[03:29] <Taladan> haettulegur_: in fact..just for my ego, do you mind if I help you troubleshoot it on out for a few more minutes/
[03:29] <Taladan> ?
[03:30] <haettulegur_> Taladan: haha, anything you'd like :)
[03:30] <Taladan> haettulegur_: have a terminal open?
[03:31] <haettulegur_> yeah
[03:31] <chris32882> Taladan: everything is shared yes,  how do you smbmount the folders?
[03:32] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: There's a package called "compizconfig-settings-manager." Install that through adept or apt, and it should show up. You'll also need compiz-kde (unless you're on KDE4 or gnome)
[03:32] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: I got that already installed
[03:32] <ScarEye> I got the advanced version installed
[03:32] <Taladan> chris32882: you may have to get something like pyneighborhood
[03:33] <Taladan> chris32882: don't remember if it comes native in samba
[03:33] <chris32882> alright
[03:33] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Then go to Settings->Advanced Desktop Effects Settings, and check the box for the cube.
[03:34] <Taladan> haettulegur_: okay, type: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 >> ~/fsinfo.txt
[03:35] <Taladan> haettulegur_: how comfortable are you with the vim text editor?
[03:36] <haettulegur_> Taladan: oh, goddamn, im an emacs guy. i hate vim :) (i always forget how to exit and such)
[03:36] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Did that brotha
[03:36] <haettulegur_> Taladan: also, im still in the process of copying some stuff over (almost finished), so should i wait to type dump the output to the txt, or is it okay to do it now?
[03:37] <haettulegur_> Taladan: but i can handle vim for now :)
[03:37] <Taladan> That's okay, emacs should be on there, I think.  Open up fsinfo.txt in your fav editor and look for the range that superblock 21233684 falls inbetween
[03:37] <Taladan> haettulegur_: nah, dumpe2fs simply gathers info about your filesystem
[03:37] <ScarEye> How can I make sure I am opengl running?
[03:37] <ScarEye> I have *
[03:37] <ScarEye> opengl running
[03:38] <Taladan> haettulegur_: lemme know when you find that
[03:38] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: And you're still not getting a cube when you switch desktops?
[03:38] <Taladan> chris32882: if you're still here, the command may actually be mount.smb...I think smbmount may be deprecated
[03:39] <chris32882> alright let me try it
[03:39] <ScarEye> nope..  I hold down the mouse and alt key. I don't see a "cube"  just a flat destop that has 2 siddes
[03:40] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Ack. I forgot. KDE has some issues with compiz. Go into the settings for the cube and set the desktop size to 4, then go to the pager and set the size to 1
[03:41] <haettulegur_> Taladan: ok, found it
[03:42] <poseidon> Is there a way to sync my thunderbird on windows and linux so they have the same contacts, acounts, folders, etc?
[03:42] <Taladan> chris32882: but you can try something like mount -t smbfs \\server\share username=<UN> password=<PW> workgroup=<WG> /mnt
[03:42] <Taladan> haettulegur_: okay, what does it say there for 'backup superblock'
[03:42] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: I click on the "Desktop Cube" button.  And I have 4 tabs.  General, Appearance, Behaviour, Transparent Cude
[03:43] <ScarEye> Which tab has that option ?
[03:43] <chris32882> alright
[03:43] <william__> now i installed ubuntu and then in cli did a sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop will i have k3.5 or kde4
[03:43] <Taladan> william__: 3
[03:44] <haettulegur_> Taladan: hmm...it doesn't have a 'backup superblock' thing under that group
[03:44] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?
[03:44] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: I believe it's under appearance...unfortunately I don't currently have access to that window
[03:46] <haettulegur> Taladan: err...somehow being disconnected even though im wired...last thing i said was that it doesn't have a backup superblock under that group
[03:46] <Taladan> haettulegur_: what's the next backup superblock?
[03:46] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Yea I don't see that option in there.  You know what I am going to install this version of KUbuntu  on a real desktop computer and see what happens.  Maybe this laptop is being funky. Thank you for you time and help. I really appreciate it.
[03:47] <haettulegur> Taladan: 23887872
[03:47] <Taladan> haettulegur: okay, go to the cli again.  type sudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda1  but make sure your file copy is finished.
[03:48] <Taladan> s/finished/finished first/
[03:48] <TeslaTony> ScarEye: Sorry I couldn't be more help. The guys over at #compiz-fusion are probably going to be more help
[03:50] <ScarEye> TeslaTony: Okay I will check out compiz-fusion.  Still thanks for your time.  =)
[03:52] <leucas> hi there
[03:53]  * Taladan yawns
[03:53] <Leucas> have anybody upgraded kubuntu from ubuntu?
[03:53] <Leucas> on hardy
[03:53] <TeslaTony> Leucas: I have, with KDE4, though
[03:54] <Leucas> well but I dont want to install kde4... is it possible to do it with kde 3
[03:54] <Leucas> ?
[03:55] <Leucas> Im asking it because I've already done it on gutsy...
[03:55] <Leucas> but in this newer release I don't know if it is the same
[03:55] <TeslaTony> Leucas: Absolutely. Just type in the command line "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" That gives you kde3 and a bunch of other packages
[03:56] <Leucas> very good
[03:56] <TeslaTony> Leucas: If you wanted KDE4, it'd be kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[03:56] <Leucas> I was pretty happy with my kubuntu gutsy... but it has an issue with sound of my laptop
[03:57] <Leucas> and I've tried the liveCD of ubuntu and they've corrected
[03:58] <Taladan> haettulegur: you still with me bud?
[03:58] <Leucas> TeslaTony: thank you so much
[03:58] <haettulegur> Taladan: yeah, sorry. last folder :)
[03:59] <Taladan> S'alright.  I was afraid you'd wandered off into the dark and been eaten by a grue
[03:59] <haettulegur> Taladan: grues dont eat me, i eat them
[04:00] <chris32882> alright I downloaded the samba browser I seee the workgroup and just my computer
[04:00] <Taladan> chris32882: good deal.  Click on the workgroup
[04:02] <chris32882> yeah I have, just shows my pc
[04:03] <chris32882> not the other :(
[04:03] <chris32882> I am going to try the network set up wizard on the xp system
[04:03] <chris32882> see if that helps
[04:03] <pottydashitter> whenz interpid alpha come out?
[04:03] <coreymon77> oh come on
[04:03] <coreymon77> hardy just came out yesterday
[04:04] <coreymon77> are you seriously asking that potty?
[04:04] <Taladan> heh
[04:04] <pottydashitter> yeah
[04:04] <coreymon77> wow
[04:04] <coreymon77> talk about impatient
[04:04] <pottydashitter> jk
[04:05] <coreymon77> this should have been hungry hippo though
[04:05] <coreymon77> not hardy heron
[04:06] <coreymon77> and the one for L better have lolcat in it :P
[04:06] <NIghtFire> hi
[04:07] <haettulegur> how are the names decided anyways?
[04:07] <Taladan> lumpy lemur
[04:07] <coreymon77> lumpy lolcat!
[04:07] <Taladan> I'm waiting for wicked weasel
[04:07] <NIghtFire> is that 8.04 release worth the upgrade ?
[04:08] <coreymon77> since they didnt do hungry hippo this time, they have to do something lolcat for L
[04:08] <dwidmann> NIghtFire: yes.
[04:08] <NIghtFire> is the version thats out now still a beta version ?
[04:09] <coreymon77> nope
[04:09] <coreymon77> full stable
[04:09] <NIghtFire> k thanks
[04:10] <NIghtFire> one other question did they get the issue with broadcom wireless cards resolved ?
[04:10] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: what issue are we talking
[04:10] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: and which cards?
[04:11] <NIghtFire> I read something on the Ubuntu page under known issues that said that if your machine had a broadcom wireless card you would get a driver manager crash on install.
[04:11] <Taladan> um....haven't heard about that one...heard about the need for the ndis-wrappers for broadcom chipsets though
[04:12] <NIghtFire> They said that it could be resolved buy downloading a new driver but how are you supposed to do that if the wireless is down?
[04:12] <jih2d> hey, anyone ever have a problem with amarok not seeing all audio files?
[04:14] <NIghtFire> I ask because I have a hp lappy that has an onboard broadcom chip set and I have had a $%#@%#$ of a time getting it to work with each upgrade
[04:14] <jih2d> i need my tunes
[04:14] <Kiry> jih2d, YES
[04:14] <Kiry> I have NO sound after the update
[04:14] <Kiry> VERY annoyed
[04:14] <jih2d> using alsa?
[04:15] <Kiry> <-- thinkpad Z60A
[04:15] <Kiry> alsa?
[04:15] <Kiry> I know I launched amarok and heard NOTHING
[04:15] <jih2d> alsamixer might have stuff muted
[04:15] <Kiry> and my DVDs don't have sound either
[04:15] <shree_> Taladan:see you later. i am going to try out gnome
[04:15] <Kiry> <-- VERY VERY new to the whole 'nix world
[04:15] <Kiry> where would I find that out?
[04:15] <Taladan> shree_: have fun with that ;)
[04:16] <NIghtFire> speaking of DVDs I have yet to find a way to play dvd movies on ubuntu.
[04:16] <jih2d> try typing alsamixer in terminal and make sure what you need is is green
[04:16] <Kiry> I use Kaffeine to play them
[04:17] <jih2d> meaning in use or not muted
[04:17] <NIghtFire> where to find kaffeine ?
[04:18] <chris32882> K Menue > Multimedia
[04:19] <chris32882> if you have it installed
[04:19] <NIghtFire> k thanks
[04:19] <chris32882> woo hoo I helped someone and I'm a noob!
[04:21] <haettulegur> you can also try vlc: sudo apt-get install vlc (kaffeine never seems to work well for me)
[04:21] <chris32882> vlc is pretty cool basicly works with anything
[04:21] <haettulegur> Taladan: done copying at last :)
[04:21] <watthasongkhro_w> is there any way to check my basic pc spec in kubuntu?
[04:21] <Taladan> haettulegur: still got that command I told you earlier?
[04:23] <Taladan> sudo e2fsck -b 23887872 /dev/sda1
[04:23] <Taladan> just in case
[04:23] <pottytheshitter> why use ext3?
[04:24] <poseidon> How do I edit my kmenu?
[04:24] <poseidon> nm
[04:25] <haettulegur> Taladan: yep, running it now
[04:25] <juan> hello, I have kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3 ... how can I install a kde 4 as well on this installation?
[04:25] <Taladan> haettulegur: good deal.  Lemme know what it comes out with
[04:30] <haettulegur> Taladan: ok, its giving me the same error as before. error reading block 21233684
[04:31] <Taladan> haettulegur: crud.
[04:32] <Taladan> lemme think for a minute
[04:32] <haettulegur> haha, a bit anticlimactic? :)
[04:35] <Taladan> a touch
[04:35] <hdd> !akpm
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about akpm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <hdd> !andrewmorton
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about andrewmorton - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Taladan> haettulegur: can you c/p the actual entire error for me
[04:40] <haettulegur> Taladan: yep, just a sec
[04:40] <NIghtFire> Have vlc loaded want to watch Star Wars attack of the Clones having troubles making the thing play.  I get the fed warning screen up and the rating screen and then it stops
[04:40] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: do you have any other way of acessing the internet
[04:40] <NIghtFire> yes
[04:40] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: ethernet perhaps
[04:40] <coreymon77> because i could help you get it to work
[04:40] <NIghtFire> Im on broadband behind a router and firewall
[04:41] <coreymon77> hdd: btw, andrew morton is the name of my english teacher :p
[04:41] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: when wifi isnt working, do you have any way of accessing the internet?
[04:42] <NIghtFire> yes on another machine
[04:42] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: i mean on that machine
[04:42] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: aka, do you have an ethernet cable that you could use to plug directly into the router
[04:42] <NIghtFire> yes
[04:42] <NIghtFire> I could do that I guess.
[04:42] <coreymon77> well, then, use the ethernet cable to connect that box to the internet
[04:43] <coreymon77> and then i could help you get it working
[04:44] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: you see, there is a solution for everything
[04:45] <NIghtFire> most of the time it's just a matter of finding the people who have "done it" before and that is why I come to rooms like this one.
[04:46] <coreymon77> i havent done it before, ive used either ndiswrapper, ralink cards, or my latest and best, the airlink101 awlh4030 atheros chip card
[04:46] <coreymon77> but, i know how to get a bcm43xx card working
[04:47] <coreymon77> im assuming you have a bcm43xx card, right?
[04:47]  * Taladan is fading
[04:48] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: am i right?
[04:50] <NIghtFire> yes that is chipset that is in my lappy I got it to work by fooling the os into thinking it was a wire connection.
[04:50] <NIghtFire> at least with gutsy
[04:50] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: no need
[04:51] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: bcn43xx cards are easy to get working, providing you have an alternate way to access the intarwebs
[04:51] <coreymon77> such as an ethernet cable
[04:52] <Taladan> haettulegur: at this point, lemme just suggest to proceed with the reinstall unless someone else knows more about repairing bad superblocks....I'm fading fast over here and need to sleep soon
[04:52] <NIghtFire> right now the lappy uses a vmware image of 7.10 and works well but I am nervous about going through the pain again.
[04:52] <haettulegur> Taladan: oh, yeah, reinstalling's no problem with me :)
[04:53] <haettulegur> Taladan: thank you again for everything!
[04:53]  * Taladan nods
[04:53] <Taladan> sorry I couldn't be more help recovering the fs
[04:53] <coreymon77> im usually good at it
[04:53] <coreymon77> but, your choice
[04:53] <Alucard_Hellsing> can any one help me..i cant get java runtime to work
[04:54] <haettulegur> try to get to level 36 while you sleep :)
[04:54] <coreymon77> NIghtFire: trust me, you dont know wifi woes until it takes you an entire week to get it to work
[04:55] <NIghtFire> I tried for several months to get this setup to work with Fiesty
[04:56] <coreymon77> wow, either you really dont know what you are doing
[04:56] <coreymon77> or you need a better card
[04:56] <coreymon77> or both :P
[04:57] <NIghtFire> I will admit that I don't know alot about linux but the "card" - "chipset" came eom on my hp prosario lappy
[04:57] <jerbear_> anyone using kde4 in hardy?
[04:57]  * Taladan idles down
[04:57] <pottytheshitter> kde is fragmented right now
[04:58] <jerbear_> yeh, i noticed
[04:58] <jerbear_> remixed edition?
[05:01] <pottytheshitter> i moved to gnome after 8.04
[05:02] <jerbear_> i've never used kde4... is it going down in flames?
[05:03]  * NightBird has been using kde4 since it came out and hasn't had problems
[05:03] <coreymon77> jerbear_: no it isnt
[05:03] <coreymon77> some usershave jsut had minor issues with it
[05:03] <coreymon77> many of us are just wating for 4.1
[05:04] <jerbear_> i guess it is still fairly new
[05:04] <coreymon77> exactly
[05:04]  * KhaoticMind is awaiting for 4.1 :)
[05:04] <NightBird> heh
[05:04] <jerbear_> seems very flashy... not sure i dig that
[05:04] <coreymon77> and as with anything linux related, new=still a few bugs to iron out
[05:04] <sepeck> seems a familer refrain
[05:04] <KhaoticMind> those damn flies... :/
[05:04] <coreymon77> pottytheshitter: so, why are you in this channel exactly, shouldnt you be in #ubuntu?
[05:05] <chris32882> basicly the same isn't it?
[05:05] <pottytheshitter> i use gnome desktop not gnome apps
[05:05] <sepeck> if you don;t like a technology it's harder to knock it in a channel that supports it maybe
[05:06] <chris32882> besides no one isn't in #ubuntu :)
[05:07] <sepeck> the video almost works for me but everything is shiftwed over tot he right off monitor.
[05:07] <pottytheshitter>  Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)
[05:07] <sepeck> maybe a name problem?
[05:08] <chris32882> I joined just fine, there just wasn't anyone in there cept me :(
[05:08] <shree_> People, I was using Kubuntu-deksopt and now I ahve switched over to Ubuntu-dekstop. How dO i clean the Kubuntu-desktop installation
[05:08] <sepeck> I see a ton of people
[05:08] <chris32882> weird
[05:09] <chris32882> dunno its
[05:09] <chris32882> "#ubuntu"?
[05:09] <sepeck> netsplit perhaps or spelling
[05:09] <sepeck> #ubuntu
[05:09] <shree_> chris32882: you want me to try in ubuntu?
[05:09] <phil_> is there an easy way to get permission to  paste something in dolphin?
[05:09] <chris32882> weird I am in now
[05:09] <chris32882> lol
[05:10] <shree_> chris32882: This is #kubuntu
[05:10]  * sepeck attempts to get monitor settings right one more time
[05:10] <MrGnu> Hi all, I need some help.  How do I get KUBUNTU to work, I had tried before in Gutsy but the KDE base never was recognized. I left me with the splash screen, but no working KUBUNTU.  Now I am in hardy, I still have the splash screen, and I want to try again, but this time I want to be sure it works. Can someone tell me the best way to get KUBUNTU session added to this current Hardy Gnome installation?
[05:11] <chris32882> yes I know this, shree_, I was trying to join #ubuntu, but when i did was a empty channel
[05:11] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu: i do believe the best way to do this is installing the kubuntu-desktop package... apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <erlanfernando> ola
[05:13] <shree_> People, please help me uninstall Kubuntu-desktop i nits entirety
[05:13] <shree_> Taladan: can you help me uninstall Kubuntu desktop that I have got Ubuntu desktop installed
[05:13] <MrGnu> when I did that in Gutsy, it left me with a working splash screen, but the KDE was not recognized.  If I do this, in Hardy, could I run into the same problem?
[05:14] <italy> i booted up remix but for some reason it goes to some crazy resolution and xorg.conf doesn't have anything to change it
[05:14] <phil_> when I did that Mr Gnu I got a kubuntu login that logged into ubuntu, untill I selected kubuntu in the drop down list at the login screen
[05:15] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu:  which splash screen are we talking about? Boot splash or the splash after login?
[05:16] <MrGnu> boot splash
[05:16] <italy> any suggestions?
[05:16] <italy> I can't change the resolution : <
[05:16] <phil_> is there a way to copy files in dolphin where it can let my use the root password to do it?
[05:17] <phil_> sorry I found it
[05:18] <KhaoticMind> thats weird MrGnu, for what i know the boot process should be the same for both gnome and kde...
[05:19] <MrGnu> Well this was in Gutsy, I have not tried to install KUBUNTU again
[05:19] <MrGnu> but I guess the best way to do it is by sudo apt get-install kubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <KhaoticMind> if you just want kubuntu (and dump gnome) you can also try to install the kubuntu CD instead of ubuntu...
[05:20] <MrGnu> Ive been podering that, and I might go kubuntu 64 bit, if they have a version like that?
[05:20] <KhaoticMind> aye they have :)
[05:21] <KhaoticMind> thou, you might find some problems with the 64bit version (both ubuntu and kubuntu)
[05:21] <KhaoticMind> like drivers and even java...
[05:24] <Makuseru> when ever i middle click on a link in firefox it opens up that link a new tab, i like that. but, if i miss the link and click on just the background not the link it pastes what ever link i have copied into the bar and takes me there, how can i stop this from happening
[05:33] <Frederick> folks can I play zsnes online?
[05:34] <harolddong> does konqueror kde4 still seem pretty unfinished for everybody?  Is it one of the apps that probably won't be totally ready until 4.1?
[05:34] <harolddong> like, I still can't import bookmarks at all and flash seems to make it freak out
[05:35] <Frederick> damm I lost con can you please na any good emulator again?
[05:35] <MrGnu> cool Khaotic, I ll  give it a shot, and set up a dual boot or something
[05:39] <KhaoticMind> MrGnu: head to www.kubuntu.org to plenty of info about kubuntu, and some download links as well ;)
[05:42] <gothicd3vil> hi
[05:43] <gothicd3vil> can somebody tell me the name of a program like Office in windows for Linux Kubuntu?
[05:44] <NightBird> gothicd3vil: open office or koffice
[05:44] <gothicd3vil> is the same format?
[05:44] <NightBird> Open Office is installed by default on kubuntu
[05:44] <NightBird> mostly
[05:45] <NightBird> it supports all of the office file formats
[05:45] <gothicd3vil> thanks is that i have classes by internet and i have to send homeworks
[05:45] <NightBird> well, I'm not sure about the latest office formats, but I know it does the ones previous
[05:45] <NightBird> ah
[05:45] <NightBird> I'm sure it will do fine for you then
[05:46] <neon> how cab i get kbfx to work, i apply the style but nothing happens?
[05:46] <gothicd3vil> thanks
[05:46] <gothicd3vil> have a good night
[05:59] <noam_> hey, i'm going to reinstall the new version rather than upgrade. should i also delete ~/.* to "start afresh"?
[06:01] <cahuez> buenas a tod@s..
[06:02] <yoyoma> hello, how can i make the fonts in KDE4 big enough to read?
[06:06] <macampos> oii
[06:06] <macampos> alguem ai pode me ajudar
[06:06] <macampos> ????
[06:07] <macampos> hi
[06:07] <macampos> I nead help with my wireless card
[06:08] <cahuez> hi macampos..
[06:08] <macampos> hi
[06:08] <cahuez> wireless card..
[06:09] <macampos> Cahuez  my wireless card no identifie  networs ssid
[06:09] <macampos> is a intel 3945ABG
[06:10] <cahuez> ok, so let us know what is the output of> ifconfig ..
[06:10] <Dragonath> is it normal considering heron release that adept takes a load of time to download update headers?
[06:10] <macampos> ifconfig result in 4 networks
[06:10] <macampos> eth0 (cable )
[06:10] <cahuez> yeap..
[06:10] <macampos> lo (loapback )
[06:11] <macampos> and wlan
[06:11] <cahuez> eth1 probably will be the wireless one..
[06:11] <cahuez> yeap..
[06:11] <macampos> no my wireless
[06:11] <Dragonath> I'd bet on wlan
[06:11] <macampos> is a wlan0
[06:11] <macampos> but
[06:12] <cahuez> is there a ip address on it..!?
[06:12] <macampos> show to wmaster0
[06:12] <macampos> don't hava  ip
[06:12] <macampos> ny router is a linksys
[06:12] <macampos> wep 2
[06:13] <macampos>  and dhcp server
[06:13] <macampos> but no show my network in my laptop
[06:14] <Dragonath> what command do you use to scan?
[06:15] <Dragonath> I have an old laptop that doesn't show any networks unless you do a sudo iwlist scan
[06:15] <cahuez> humm..
[06:16] <cahuez> try a ping to <the eth1 ip address> ..
[06:16] <Dragonath> however there's only 1 network to which it has actually managed to connect, so something else might be broken too
[06:16] <macampos> dont have eth1
[06:16] <macampos> i have eth0
[06:17] <macampos> and
[06:17] <macampos> wlan0
[06:17] <cahuez> eth0 is working..
[06:17] <macampos> yes
[06:17] <cahuez> ok, ping to wlan0 ip address..
[06:17] <macampos> no ping
[06:17] <cahuez> checking...
[06:17] <harris> sinong pilipino d2
[06:17] <macampos> test failure
[06:18] <cahuez> ok...
[06:18] <cahuez> and you are near a wlan lan..?
[06:19] <macampos> yes
[06:19] <macampos> wlan0
[06:19] <Dragonath> no, that's an interface
[06:19] <Dragonath> what you need is a network to connect to
[06:20] <macampos> ok
[06:20] <macampos> i have a network
[06:20] <Dragonath> try "iwlist scan"
[06:21] <macampos> iwlist wlan0 scan
[06:21] <macampos> no returne results
[06:21] <Dragonath> then try "sudo iwlist scan"
[06:21] <macampos> in kubuntu 7.10
[06:22] <macampos> my network is ok
[06:22] <macampos> i install a 8.04 version
[06:22] <macampos> no more wireless
[06:22] <Dragonath> ok
[06:23] <macampos> you know any problem with 8.04 version
[06:23] <macampos> ??
[06:23] <Dragonath> I don't really know what could be causing it
[06:23] <Dragonath> because I'm still running 7.10
[06:23] <macampos> ok
[06:23] <Dragonath> what you probably want to do, is downgrade to a previous version of ifconfig or iwlist
[06:24] <macampos> downgrade
[06:24] <macampos> humm
[06:25] <macampos> iwlist probe
[06:25] <macampos> ok
[06:25] <macampos> tks
[06:25] <Dragonath> you might also want to try to search for known problems with your network card
[06:25] <Dragonath> on google or something
[06:25] <macampos> i search
[06:25] <macampos> but 8.04 is a new version
[06:25] <Dragonath> I think if you google for "kubuntu 8.04 <card name>"
[06:25] <Dragonath> indeed
[06:26] <macampos> i dont have more informations about is
[06:26] <macampos> ok
[06:26] <macampos> tks
[06:26] <Dragonath> no worries
[06:26] <Dragonath> hope you get the problem sorted
[06:36] <harris> HELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox
[06:37] <harris>  HELP ME! hey hey... how can I open my mozilla firefox
[06:37] <harris> please
[06:37] <cahuez> firefox is available through your k/internet menu option already..?
[06:39] <Willizar> dudes
[06:39] <harris> i dont get it, im sorry... I'm newbie here..... I'm usingkubuntu 7.04
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: you install it?  If so it's in KDE start -> Internet -> Firefox
[06:39] <Willizar> how do i use my mic on kopete
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: sudo apt-get install firefo
[06:39] <thedonvaughn> harris: sudo apt-get install firefox   - rather
[06:39] <harris> where ? will i type it
[06:40] <harris> ?
[06:40] <thedonvaughn> harris: System -> Konsole
[06:40] <harris> okay
[06:40] <harris> im in the console
[06:41] <cahuez> then check with > man firefox first..
[06:41] <hydrogen> err
[06:41] <hydrogen> wut?
[06:42] <hydrogen> thats like, the worst idea i've ever heard
[06:42] <harris> whhhaaaa still dont get it
[06:42] <hydrogen> and I've been in support channels for a long time
[06:42] <harris> i did install the firefox
[06:42] <hydrogen> alt+f2 > type in firefox
[06:42] <harris> laoding
[06:43] <harris> error
[06:44] <harris> NOSE BLEED
[06:44] <harris> An error occurred while loading http://firefox.meridiantelekoms.com/:
[06:45] <cahuez> then try> firefox & in console ..
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$ firefox
[06:46] <harris> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[06:46] <harris> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:46] <harris> bash: firefox: command not found
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$ apt-get install firefox
[06:46] <harris> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:46] <harris> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:46] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:46] <milosz_> hydrogen: try first pkill -9 firefox
[06:47] <hydrogen> milosz_: uhh wut?
[06:47] <harris> wahhhhh help2x
[06:47] <harris> newbie me
[06:47] <hydrogen> !patience | harris
[06:47] <ubotu> harris: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:47] <milosz_> hydrogen: I think that firefox is running\
[06:47] <hydrogen> read the gigantic amount of output harris pasted
[06:47] <hydrogen> not me
[06:48] <harris> sorry
[06:48] <harris> heheheeee
[06:48] <harris> this is FUN
[06:48] <harris> okay i'll figure it out
[06:49] <milosz_> hydrogen: ups, I just woke up :)
[06:49] <harris> patience is the essence
[06:51] <harris> so how mr HYDROGEN..... how can i run application?
[06:51] <harris> i can't run an executable file
[06:53] <milosz_> harris: did you tried sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:53] <ISS_Student> I didn't thnk linx used exe files
[06:54] <maduser> it doesn't
[06:54] <harris> yes yes milosz i did in konsole
[06:54] <maduser> ?
[06:55] <maduser> did you try though the apt manager?
[06:55] <harris> okay
[06:55] <harris> there is a password
[06:55] <maduser> and?
[06:55] <ISS_Student> I just went to add/remove programs and did it that way
[06:55] <harris> I'll put my password
[06:55] <maduser> is this your fist time using linux?
[06:56] <ISS_Student> Me or harris?
[06:56] <harris> yahhhhhhhhh
[06:56] <harris> first time
[06:56] <maduser> have you ever used ubuntu
[06:56] <maduser> ?
[06:56] <harris> not yet
[06:56] <maduser> ok ummm
[06:56] <Leeuw> I ticked to ' off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot'  something like that, it had a warning that after changing stuff it could break the system; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find that se
[06:57] <ISS_Student> I've used kubuntu for probably around a year or so
[06:57] <maduser> me too but i have been using linux for about 8
[06:57] <harris> Building dependency tree
[06:57] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[06:57] <harris> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:57] <harris> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:57] <harris> is only available from another source
[06:57] <harris> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[06:57] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:57] <maduser> ...................................
[06:57] <maduser> oh yeah!................you have to get firefox 3 now
[06:58] <harris> i typed
[06:58] <harris> Building dependency tree
[06:58] <Dr_willis> executable is different from '.exe'
[06:58] <Dr_willis> you set the executable bit on a file under linux.  and its an executable file
[06:58] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[06:58] <harris> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:58] <harris> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:58] <harris> is only available from another source
[06:58] <harris> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[06:58] <harris> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[06:58] <harris> sorry
[06:58] <harris> for the flood
[06:58] <ISS_Student> I've used fedora for a few years mainly at school but prefer kubuntu on my laptop
[06:58] <maduser> try sudo apt-get firefox 3
[06:58] <hydrogen> no..
[06:58] <hydrogen> spaces do not go in package names
[06:58] <hydrogen> never have, never will
[06:58] <harris> invalid operation maduser
[06:58] <miloszg> hydrogen: firefox-3
[06:58] <hydrogen> you need to install mozilla-firefox
[06:58] <maduser> try sudo apt-get firefox3
[06:58] <hydrogen> no.
[06:58] <hydrogen> no no no
[06:58] <hydrogen> just no
[06:59] <hydrogen> bad guesses are bad
[06:59] <harris> ehehehhehehehe
[06:59] <harris> fun fun
[06:59] <maduser> ok this is stupid just use the apt manager
[06:59] <hydrogen> or, install mozilla-firefox
[06:59] <maduser> that too
[06:59] <harris> i already install it
[06:59] <maduser> ok do you know how to use the apt manager?
[07:00] <harris> here is the folder = /home/harris/firefox-2.0.0.14/firefox
[07:00] <harris> no
[07:00] <maduser> this terminal thing is not working
[07:00] <maduser> are you useing kde3 or 4?
[07:00] <harris> actually im using 7.04 Kubuntu
[07:00] <harris> it is not upgraded
[07:00] <maduser> ok first upgrade
[07:00] <maduser> we can't help you
[07:01] <maduser> the package system for the older os's are useless
[07:01] <harris> ok thanks for help
[07:01] <hydrogen> err
[07:01] <hydrogen> no
[07:01] <hydrogen> not particularlly
[07:01] <harris> ok
[07:01] <maduser> the apt gets disabled for the older ones
[07:01] <hydrogen> 7.04 is still supported
[07:01] <harris> hydro
[07:01] <maduser> really?
[07:01] <maduser> ok
[07:01] <hydrogen> maduser: your talking out of your ass, stop it
[07:02] <harris> maduser... bad cheetah
[07:02] <maduser> k fine
[07:02] <harris> hahahahahahahhaha :))
[07:02] <maduser> I'm tryng to help
[07:02] <maduser> a guy who has no clue what he is doing
[07:02] <hydrogen> It's not a good idea to try and help someone if you are not familiar with the material you are trying to help them with
[07:02] <maduser> I am
[07:02] <maduser> with the apt
[07:03] <maduser> manager
[07:03] <hydrogen> I have no intentions of teaching anyone how to perform brain surgery
[07:03] <harris> heeheeeeehe
[07:03] <maduser> k type adept_manager in the terminal
[07:03] <maduser> this will bring up the manager
[07:04] <harris> ok
[07:04] <harris> theres the manager
[07:04] <maduser> now type firefox in the search
[07:04] <stdin> adept needs to be started as root, with kdesu/kdesudo
[07:04] <zeth_> Hola
[07:04] <harris> ok
[07:05] <zeth_> spanish
[07:05] <hydrogen> plus, he _already_ installed mozilla-firefox
[07:05] <zeth_> ?
[07:05] <stdin> !es
[07:05] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[07:05] <hydrogen> so I'm not sure why we are going down this road
[07:05] <ISS_Student> maduser he needs to do that as  sudo
[07:05] <zeth_> thanks!!!
[07:06] <maduser> I take typing firefox in the terminal brings up nothing?
[07:06] <maduser> for him?
[07:06] <stdin> I would check to make sure the repositories are enabled in adept
[07:06] <hydrogen> well, we don't know whats happened since I told him to install mozilla-firefox
[07:07] <hydrogen> because the next thing that happened was you told him he had to update to hardy
[07:07] <stdin> firefox is in main, so it would be enabled unless there was no net-connection at install
[07:07] <ISS_Student> ok here is my question what happened to nmap-fe?
[07:07] <stdin> ISS_Student: I don't know, what happened to it?
[07:08] <ISS_Student> stdin there is zenmap but I can't find it on the menu
[07:09] <stdin> ISS_Student: try running "kbuildsycoca" to update the menu
[07:10] <stdin> though knmap is a KDE gui for nmap iirc
[07:16] <maduser> so is that firefox probelm fixed
[07:16]  * Dr_willis looks under the couch
[07:17] <Dr_willis> knmap - nmap graphical interface for KDE
[07:18] <harris> okay for example i have ben.exe          = how can i run it?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> you proberly want to run zenmap with 'kdesu zenmap' or kdesudo zenmap
[07:18] <stdin> !wine | harris
[07:18] <ubotu> harris: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:18] <maduser> but no all programs work with wine
[07:18] <maduser> but not all programs work with wine
[07:19] <maduser> some do and some don't
[07:21] <harris> so do i need wine in running firefox.exe
[07:21] <harris> hehehhehe
[07:21] <stdin> did you do what was asked?
[07:21] <stdin> did you check your sources?
[07:22] <harris> wow HOW?
[07:22] <stdin> open adept goto Adept -> Manage Repositories
[07:23] <stdin> make sure they are checked
[07:23] <stdin> then click "fetch updates"
[07:24] <dinart> how do I log as the root?
[07:24] <stdin> !root | dinart
[07:24] <ubotu> dinart: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:25] <The_ManU_212> hi
[07:25] <harris> wheezzzz
[07:25] <dinart> stdin, yeah, but i want to use the graphic interface as the root
[07:26] <dinart> not the console
[07:26] <stdin> that's not supported
[07:26] <stdin> or recommended
[07:26] <stdin> or needed
[07:26] <stdin> settings for that would be in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[07:27] <draik> stdin: general rule of thumb, "If you're not allowed, there's most likely a very good reason"
[07:27] <stdin> draik: tell that to dinart ;)
[07:27] <dinart> i just wanted to edit the file menu.lst at boot/grub
[07:27] <draik> stdin: I know, but I wanted your approval for the verbiage
[07:27] <dinart> to change the boot order
[07:28] <stdin> dinart: do use 'kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[07:28] <draik> dinart: Use CLI or the command line.
[07:28] <stdin> "CLI or the command line" ?
[07:28] <draik> Whoops
[07:28] <stdin> ;)
[07:28] <draik> CLI or the Run command
[07:29] <dinart> i'm not used with the linux console syntax
[07:29] <stdin> you can also use the "Edit file as root" open from konqueror
[07:29] <stdin> *option
[07:30] <draik> dinart: I've preferred CLI editing lately. Go figure. I've been so used to KATE for a while and now I'm getting the urge to use CLI.
[07:30] <greeg> the latest kubuntu sucks.  im rolling back to a previous version
[07:30] <greeg> nothing werks.
[07:31] <stdin> dinart: right click the file in konqueror -> Actions -> Edit as Root
[07:31] <dinart> konqueror?
[07:31] <stdin> the file manager
[07:32] <dinart> i'm using Nautilus 2.22.2 here
[07:32]  * Dr_willis notices this is the Kubuntu/KDE room...
[07:32] <stdin> then you should ask in #ubuntu
[07:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:32] <stdin> I'm sure it's similar in nautilus, but I don't know the procedure
[07:33] <dinart> just found it
[07:33] <dinart> at the synpatic
[07:33] <dinart> itś not instaled
[07:34] <greeg> can nautilus play youtube unchoppy ?
[07:34]  * greeg apt-gets
[07:34] <stdin> ask in #ubuntu
[07:34] <bwp> nautilus isn't a web browser, last i checked
[07:34] <greeg> oh
[07:34] <greeg> fuck
[07:34] <greeg> firefox sucks
[07:35] <stdin> !language | greeg
[07:35] <ubotu> greeg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:35] <greeg> dolphin sucks
[07:35] <greeg> konquerer is good at crashing.
[07:35] <Dr_willis> Hmm...  all these oponions from someone that dident realize nautilus wasent a web browser....
[07:35] <stdin> thanks for your opinion, but this isn't a "what's you opinion on software" channel
[07:35] <harris> yES
[07:35] <harris> konquerorrrr error
[07:35] <greeg> no oppinion.  the shit crashes.
[07:35] <greeg> thats a fact.
[07:37] <Dr_willis> Anyone else noticed that the more  Opinion someone has -  they often have less actual 'knowledge' ?
[07:37] <harris> CAN i use visual studio here? or program visual basic.net?
[07:37] <bwp> So, ever since I upgraded to 8.04, Kaffeine is unable to play videos off a samba share
[07:37] <bwp> says:  16:37:32: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[07:37] <harris> im installing NET beans right now hope its okay
[07:38] <bwp> was working before the upgrade
[07:38] <osiris> has anyone else had problems with flash not having sound in hardy ?
[07:38] <bwp> any ideas anyone?
[07:38] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except
[07:38] <bef> my speeds are absolutely shit
[07:38] <Dr_willis> bwp, How are you accessing the share?  you might want to mount the share to a directory, then anything should be able to play them
[07:38] <bef> and my connection is really unstable
[07:38] <stdin> bef: watch the language in here please
[07:38] <bef> it was never like this with ubuntu, im wondering why this is happening?
[07:39] <bwp> Dr_willis: yeah, it works if I do that (of course). I was just wondering if there's a reason why it stopped working
[07:39] <bwp> i'm opening the file direction from a smb:// url in Dolphin
[07:39] <bwp> directly *
[07:40] <stdin> bef: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the GUI and set of default applications, the core is the same so the speed can't be anything to do with KDE but the core
[07:40] <bef> do you have any advice on how i can fix it?
[07:40] <The_ManU_212> i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/
[07:40] <stdin> bef: wifi isn't really my area, but what network card/driver are you using?
[07:41] <bef> im using a belkin wireless (Ralink)
[07:41] <Dr_willis> bwp,  ive gotten where i use gmplayer as my main player. and fusesmb to access samba shares. ;) i rarely play things over the smb:// stuff
[07:42] <bef> and im using the default native linux driver
[07:42] <bef> i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year)
[07:42] <draik> bef: You have a PCI Wireless video card???
[07:42] <bef> what?
[07:42] <stdin> draik: huh?
[07:42] <bef> did i ever say video card?
[07:43] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  When I upgraded to Heady Hebron my system stopped booting properly.  It will load the necessary stuff, but it won't go into KDE.
[07:43] <bef> oh maybe i did
[07:43] <bef> (if so i'm just retarded)
[07:43] <bef> but not what i meant to say :P
[07:43] <draik> stdin: bef: ..." my pci wireless graphics was autofound and works, except"
[07:43] <bef> lol
[07:43] <bef> yeah, my bad
[07:43] <stdin> yeah, but you need to discard words that don't fit
[07:43] <draik> I wasn't sure which one
[07:43] <stdin> I guess I do it unconsciously now :p
[07:43] <Ertain> I tried looking into the logs but they have stopped right before I upgraded my system.
[07:44] <Ertain> Could the logs be in a different place?
[07:44] <draik> PCI wireless or PCI VC
[07:44] <bef> pci wireless
[07:44] <bwp> Ertain: it isn't trying to load KDE4 is it? The compositing in KDE4 caused some weird problems for me for a while
[07:44] <hydrogen> wireless video... mmm :)
[07:44] <bef> (i did say belkin wireless ralink) which would be fairly obvious :P
[07:45] <chrisrogers> hey dwidmann
[07:45] <Ertain> bwp: I don't know if it is trying to start KDE4.
[07:45] <Ertain> bwp: But I'll try uninstalling my KDE4 stuff.
[07:45] <bwp> Ertain: do you get to a login prompt? Can you choose the "session type" from the list?
[07:46] <bef> draik, can you help?
[07:46] <bef> wlan0
[07:46] <Ertain> bwp: I don't even get into the login prompt.
[07:46] <bwp> not KDE4's fault then :)
[07:47] <draik> bef: Sorry, I'm still in Gutsy
[07:47] <bef> for some reason its running at like 5Kbs, and i'm on a 1500kbs connection
[07:47] <bef> which is utterly rediculous
[07:47] <Ertain> Figures. :-/
[07:48] <Ertain> bwp: okay, could it be the login thingy?
[07:49] <bwp> does X start?
[07:50] <Ertain> bwp: I don't know.  I do have xinit installed, along with startx (and Kubuntu-desktop), but apparently it doesn't start.
[07:52] <Ertain> I do have all of the right Xserver and X11 stuff, afaik.
[07:52] <bwp> so what happens when you try to start KDE?
[07:53] <iqon> i can't get amarok to retrieve ipod play counts in 8.04
[07:54] <Ertain> Here's what happens: my regular bootsplash is loading, and then it tries to go start X and... It doesn't start.
[07:55] <ForgeAus> is anything linux an industry standard? I mean Windows doesn't recognise EXT3 partitions by default, wouldn't it make sense to make EXT3 an industry standard of some kind?
[07:56] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  MS  dosent want to.. so  they dont.,
[07:56] <ForgeAus> I mean windows' diskpart is ok for a basic ntfs partitioner but thats about all it can do
[07:56] <fdoving> ForgeAus: microsoft and windows does not want to cooperate with anything linux. that's the only reason it doesn't read it by default, it's not that it's hard to read it in any way.
[07:56] <Dr_willis> Why not ask why Windows dosent have NFS by default. :) or  other more common things also.
[07:56] <bwp> Ertain: looks like the upgrade to the new version of X broke your install somehow
[07:56] <bef> somebody please help me fix my connection please
[07:56] <bwp> X is pretty nasty when it doesn't work
[07:57] <ForgeAus> NFS is easy enough with SFU/SUA if you have a windows with those extras
[07:57] <Ertain> In my /var/log/dmesg file it gets up to ip_tables and then it stops.  Btw, I'm on a wireless connection.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  ext2 support in windows works 'ok' :) with a few tools as well.. but not 100%
[07:58] <ForgeAus> yeah I have an ext2ifs driver
[07:58] <bwp> ext2ifs is pretty flaky in my experience
[07:58] <ForgeAus> but thats not what I meant... it doesn't give diskpart or ntldr the ability to recognise ext2/3 partitions does it?
[07:58] <Ertain> bwp: Just in case what would you suggest I do to fix "X"?
[07:58] <ForgeAus> really I've had no problem with it at all bwp...
[07:59] <ForgeAus> (sofar anyhow)
[07:59] <ForgeAus> maybe its one of them "works for me" thingies
[07:59] <bwp> Ertain: if you know your way around the commandline, make a backup of your existing xorg.conf file and try running the autoprobe thingy
[07:59] <Ertain> Okay.
[07:59] <bwp> Xorg -configure
[07:59] <bwp> see what it comes up with
[08:00] <fdoving> !xconf
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <fdoving> !xconfig
[08:00] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:00] <bwp> oooh, fanciness
[08:00] <The_ManU_212> i installed yesterday nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver and use a6600gt but i have no 3d acceleration:/ who can help?
[08:00] <dwidmann> hi chris ... sorry but I probaly won't be around for another .... 12 hour or so, ltime for me to leave for work soon
[08:01] <spigiboy> hello valaki beszel magyarul?
[08:02] <Lynoure> spigiboy: there could be #kubuntu-hu
[08:02] <Lynoure> !hu
[08:02] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[08:02] <spigiboy> thx :D
[08:06] <rayk_sland>  glx problem with hardy heron and intel chipset   (/usr/lib/dri/i915_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)
[08:07] <SilentDis> hello
[08:08] <SilentDis> i just replaced a CD burner with a CD/DVD+-RW burner.  Bios sees it fine (even allows to boot off a CD), but as soon as I'm up and running in 8.04, it fails to work.  I assume there's gonna be an error somewhere in a log, where would i start looking?
[08:08] <rayk_sland> SilentDis: dmesg might tell you something
[08:09] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: ugh, yep.  let me pastebin this one, getting it over and over apparently...
[08:09] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8319/
[08:10] <SilentDis> rayk_sland: ever seen anything like that?
[08:13] <SilentDis> aargh, looks like known issue and nothing to solve it so far https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/160656
[08:13] <rayk_sland> SilentDis  googlesearch leads me to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/160656
[08:13] <SilentDis> lol
[08:14] <SilentDis> is there a way to kill all use of that device?
[08:16] <SilentDis> hm.  on the off chance i didn't set the jumper right, gonna shut down and check that just to be extra sure.  be back in a bit
[08:24] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?
[08:26] <The_ManU_212> how to enable 3d acceleration?
[08:27] <INIT_6> can we ask ? about wine and the new kubuntu? or is there another channel for that?
[08:27] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: do you have a nvidia card?
[08:28] <bef> hi. i just installed kub 8.04 from ub 7.10, fresh install... my pci wireless was autofound and using native linux driver, i'm not using ndiswrapper (and havent had to with this card for over a year).. its a belkin (ralink) on wlan0, and it's running at about 5kb/s and falling out a lot.. I'm on a good connection and haven't had any problems with Ubuntu with this card, any advice here?
[08:28] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: yes 6600gt
[08:29] <INIT_6> do you have 7.10 or 8.04?
[08:29] <MrBogus> hello
[08:30] <MrBogus> i'm new here
[08:30] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: so you running 7.10 or the new 8.04 so I can give you the right steps?
[08:30] <cr> hi roomies...the font configuration in my kcontrol disappeared...had been replaced by the 'welcome to kde control center'...anyone know how to fix this..thanks
[08:30] <INIT_6> Hello, MrBogus
[08:31] <MrBogus> just wanted to ask if were can I get an installer for kubuntu
[08:32] <Dr_willis> the instgall cd's instgall ubuntu/kubuntu normally.
[08:32] <Dr_willis> Unless you want to use the 'wubi' installer.
[08:32] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: 8.04 kde 3, installed nvidia-glx-new, but didnt helped and xorg.conf has only generic entries and no "nvidia" mentioned somewhere
[08:32] <MrBogus> my problem is I have no cd for kubuntu
[08:32] <MrBogus> =)
[08:33] <Dr_willis> Hmmm go download one?
[08:33] <MrBogus> can i?
[08:33] <the-erm> Any upgrade issues?
[08:34] <the-erm> I guess I should ask has anyone had any issues upgrading?
[08:34] <INIT_6> I did but that was a user error
[08:34] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  err.. of course... kubuntu is not some app you install under windows.. (normally) :)   You download the iso. burn it to cd..reboot, install from cd
[08:34] <JoshOvki> the-erm: i had a problem upgrading, but thats because my system froze
[08:35] <JoshOvki> Dr_willis: if he installed using wubi  then it could be simular to his point of view
[08:36] <the-erm> JoshOvki: don't scare me like that...
[08:36] <Dr_willis> JoshOvki,  i aint even TOUCHING or suggesting Wubi.. ever.. :)
[08:36] <JoshOvki> lol
[08:36] <the-erm> I'm adept_upgrade is running now.
[08:36] <MrBogus> could someone provide a download link for kubuntu?
[08:36] <MrBogus> thanks for the answers
[08:36] <MrBogus> :)
[08:36] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  try kubuntu.org ? check the topic of the channel?
[08:37] <JoshOvki> the-erm: i think it was just my system, loads of people have upgraded with no issues
[08:37] <Dr_willis> There are torrents for the new release out now also. that may be the fastet way to get a .iso image.
[08:37] <Dr_willis> .04 Released! http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release
[08:37] <MrBogus> okay. i'll try to download.
[08:38] <INIT_6> *bumb* where is the best place to get help for wine and the new 8.04 here or a different channel?
[08:38] <the-erm> Last time I think I had some bad repositories, and ended up re-installing, instead of upgrading.
[08:38] <arunkale> hello
[08:39] <MrBogus> is it also possible for me to have a dual boot?
[08:39] <MrBogus> e.g ubuntu / windows?
[08:39] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  of course.
[08:39] <arunkale> how do i copy a directory to another directory? i tried cp, but it says 'Name' is a directory (not copied)
[08:39] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:39] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  you proverly want to use the -r for recursive option to cp.
[08:39] <the-erm> MrBogus: backup everything.
[08:39] <Dr_willis> or was it -R... i forget. :)
[08:39] <MrBogus> yeah
[08:39] <the-erm> Well ... the important data then :)
[08:40] <INIT_6> -R
[08:40] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'mc' way too much :)
[08:40] <arunkale> Thanks, Dr_willis, cp -R seems to be doing the trick
[08:40] <arunkale> Dr_willis: what does mc do
[08:40] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[08:40] <ubotu> mc (source: mc): midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-8ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2059 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[08:40] <Dr_willis> text based 2 pane file manager.
[08:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:41] <Dr_willis> a MUST get. :0
[08:41] <arunkale> cool
[08:41] <arunkale> is it possible to get some sort of progress bar or something in the terminal while copying large directories?
[08:42] <Dr_willis> arunkale,  ive seen various 'progress bar' copy scripts  here and there..
[08:42] <Dr_willis> mc gives you a nice progress bar. :)
[08:42] <svu> is it true that kubuntu requires manual editing of /etc/network/interfaces - for wireless interfaces? KNetworkManager cannot enable wifi :(
[08:42] <Dr_willis> svu,  for my laptop i did not have to edit anything manually
[08:43] <MrBogus> is there any forums for kubuntu?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  the kubuntu homepage has links to them.. and other documention
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !forums
[08:43] <svu> Dr_willis: in KNM I tried "enable wireless" - but it did not change anything. What did you do on your laptop?
[08:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:43] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:43] <Lynoure> svu: I originally needed to comment out my wlan card for /etc/network/interfaces, aften that haven't needed to edit a thing related to it
[08:44] <the-erm> Everything in my house is wired but the wii.
[08:44] <Dr_willis> For my laptop - i installed the broadcom package. and  clicked on some gizmo and entered my ssid and password.. and that was about it..  I was amazed that it worked. :)
[08:44] <Dr_willis> the-erm,  :) the one gizmo with built in wireless is wired. :)  same as my wii!
[08:45] <svu> Dr_willis: I expected the same. And it did not even add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[08:45] <INIT_6> mc
[08:45] <svu> I seen eth1 in ifconfig output
[08:45] <INIT_6> srry wrong window
[08:46] <MrBogus> i chose 8.04
[08:46] <MrBogus> should i download everything?
[08:47] <Lynoure> MrBogus: everything is a bit too much. Are you doing a fresh install, upgrade or what?
[08:47] <the-erm> I think he's doing a fresh install.
[08:47] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  you download the .iso image file for the specific disrto/variant you want
[08:48] <Dr_willis> You then properly burn the iso file (as an IMAGE) to a blank cd. :)
[08:48] <MrBogus> Lynoure: I'm doing a fresh install
[08:48] <Lynoure> MrBogus: Dr_willis's advice is all good, then :)
[08:49] <MrBogus> Thanks to you both
[08:49] <MrBogus> :)
[08:49] <MrBogus> i have started to download now.
[08:49] <the-erm> < I repeat make sure you back up >
[08:49] <MrBogus> yeah. thanks for the warn.
[08:50] <Dr_willis> most likely you want the file            http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:50] <the-erm> If you want to dual boot you should make sure you have a copy of the xp disk.  Windows will freak when it notices the partition is a different size.
[08:50] <Dr_willis> depending on which mirror you selected
[08:50] <Dr_willis> the-erm,  ive never noticed it freaking. :)
[08:50] <The_ManU_212> INIT_6: cant you help me?
[08:51] <the-erm> I hate windows for that.  Put in a new drive ... and it won't boot without a disk.
[08:51] <MrBogus> then i will make a bootable disk? or just make a datadisk?
[08:51] <the-erm> It happened to me.
[08:51] <INIT_6> Sorry, I don't know that mush about it.
[08:52] <INIT_6> You don't have any weired setup do you. like going through a KVM switch. I know that mess me up.
[08:52] <Lynoure> MrBogus: if you burn the .iso, it will be bootable.
[08:52] <MrBogus> ok. then i will just choose data cd for burning
[08:53] <INIT_6> The_ManU_212: I know I like to install the nvida x server settings to help me tweak with the configuration not sure how other people feel about that software but I likeit.
[08:53] <Lynoure> MrBogus: don't worry too much about which to choose (kde3 or kde4), as you can install the other to be on the side when you are done, if you wish
[08:54] <MrBogus> okay, I have already windows on my system (drive c:), my drive d: is empty. can I install ubuntu without distorbing windows on drive c:
[08:54] <MrBogus> ?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  you do NOT make a 'data' disk - you use a tool that burns the .iso as an image.. such as burnatonce, or nero, or other tools.
[08:55] <Dr_willis> MrBogus,  You can delete the D: parittion and instgall linux in the unallocated space. Is one way
[08:55] <MrBogus> but windows will not be altered if i do so?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> If you have nothing on D: then  it should ent be.
[08:56] <MrBogus> thanks
[08:56] <Dr_willis> You can play with the LiveCD and toy withlinux all you want without installing also.
[08:56] <MrBogus> what file is it?
[08:56] <MrBogus> what file is it for LiveCD?
[08:56] <Dr_willis> what file is what?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> The desktop cd is a live cd.
[08:57] <Dr_willis> You boot it. get a nice linux desktop, with an Install icon you can use if you want.
[08:59] <MrBogus> can I also download a Desktop cd?
[09:00] <MrBogus> i'm in 10% of my download now. lol
[09:00] <Lynoure> MrBogus: live cd is the cd you install the desktop from, too
[09:01] <MrBogus> okay. that clears me.
[09:01] <MrBogus> :)
[09:02] <harris_> i cannot evven install a flash player from my CD
[09:15] <crazy_bus> I installed ogg convert on 8.04 but it seems to be broken.  It can't open a svg with gtk.  Should I install something to make it work?
[09:20] <crazy_bus> nm.  I found the correct thing.
[09:22] <rydan> any idea how to make widgets sticky on the desktop?
[09:23] <rydan> or, rather, dock them?
[09:32] <harris_> hey how can i watch video streaming
[09:32] <warren_> euhm, doesn't it work? :D
[09:33] <Dr_willis> harris_,  mplayer, and vlc can play many streams
[09:33] <warren_> kaffeine does too i think
[09:33] <harris_> i cant watch video from youtube
[09:34] <warren_> and as it is installed by default
[09:34] <warren_> that's flash
[09:34] <warren_> install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:34] <harris_> okay i can't even install flash
[09:34] <warren_> or to install everything to read multimedia: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:34] <warren_> harris_ : with adept!
[09:34] <obadiah_> I'm trying to install the Oxford English Dictionary under wine. This is a two CD install. When it gets to the second CD it is unable to recognize the file. Is there any way around this?
[09:35] <MrBogus> any good tutorial for installing kubuntu?
[09:35] <warren_> euhm, maybe your cd has some problem
[09:35] <harris_> im really having NOSEBLEED with this linux....... HARD TIME but FUN
[09:35] <warren_> harris_ : don't you understand?, it's quite simple
[09:35] <Dr_willis> whats so hard? :)
[09:36] <warren_> harris_ : open adept and install kubuntu-restricted-eextras
[09:36] <Dr_willis> compared to the song and dance ive had to do with windows this week... I will take linux
[09:36] <harris_> hardddddd....... running application....
[09:36] <warren_> well can't you use a mouse? :)
[09:37] <warren_> harris_: open "adept" (in system) and install this: "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[09:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <warren_> restart your desktop and everything should work
[09:37] <harris_> okayyyyy mr warren
[09:37] <harris_> i can't open an .exe file
[09:37] <warren_> no problem
[09:37] <harris_> thats the problem I have installer
[09:37] <Dr_willis> harris_,  where did you even GET a .exe from?
[09:37] <warren_> that's a windows program then
[09:38] <Dr_willis> harris_,  linux is not windows. :)  is the core of the issue...
[09:38] <harris_> most of my cd have .exe file
[09:38] <harris_> OKAY
[09:38] <warren_> well this is for windows users to test
[09:38] <Dr_willis> what exe is this anyway?
[09:38] <warren_> firefox? ;)
[09:38] <harris_> an exe file a flashplayer installer
[09:38] <warren_> there are some windows programs on the cd to test on windows
[09:38] <harris_> firefox
[09:38] <warren_> ah ok
[09:38] <warren_> no
[09:38] <Dr_willis> harris_,  thats 100% the wrong way to install flash under ubuntu.
[09:38] <warren_> install like i said above
[09:39] <harris_> HOW
[09:39] <warren_> with adept
[09:39] <warren_> System -> Ademt
[09:39] <warren_> Adept*
[09:39] <harris_> okay
[09:39] <Dr_willis> to install flash i normally use the command ----------->    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:39] <warren_> and install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:39] <warren_> well commands aren't recommended for new users
[09:39] <Dr_willis> or use the gui tool like  warren_  is suggesting. It does basicially the same thing.
[09:39] <warren_> yes
[09:39] <harris_> in konsole mr willis
[09:40] <warren_> use adept it's easier
[09:40] <harris_> okay ill go to console
[09:40] <Dr_willis> its much faster to just cut/paste a command .. then to handhold/walk through a GUI series of menus. :)
[09:40] <warren_> why making it difficult?
[09:40] <Dr_willis> assuming he has the repos set up.. this is..  heh.
[09:40] <warren_> well normally they are set up during install, hope they are ;)
[09:40] <thumper> !scim-bridge
[09:40] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the flash factoids have been updated.
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scim-bridge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <Dr_willis> !flash
[09:40] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[09:40] <Dr_willis> That url  should also guide one through installing flash properly
[09:41] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:41] <harris_> Password:
[09:41] <harris_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavai                  able)
[09:41] <harris_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another pro                  ess using it?
[09:41] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[09:41] <Dr_willis> harris_,  you can have only 1 'package manager' type tool open at a time.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> either use adept, and install the packages, or close adept and use the command line.
[09:42] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <harris_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:42] <harris_> Building dependency tree
[09:42] <harris_> Reading state information... Done
[09:42] <harris_> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <harris_> harris@harris-desktop:~$
[09:42] <Dr_willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:42] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 15 (hardy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[09:43] <fable> good morning to all
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the 'multiverse' repository may not be enabled by default.     - some where in the 'adept' tool one can click a box to enable it. - you will then need to 'reload' the reposiutory listings, and then isntall the packages.
[09:44] <Dr_willis> I was thinkign the 'add/remove programs' icon opened a simpiler program that also allowed you to easially enable the extra repos and install things.
[09:50] <harris_> WHHHHHEEWW I GET IT
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Now type in words.. the actions you took... :)
[09:50] <Dr_willis> heh heh..
[09:50] <harris_> CAN SOmeone tell me what is ADEPT MANAGER
[09:50] <Dr_willis> harris_,  a front end to the apt packaing system.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> theres many front ends to the apt system.
[09:50] <harris_> so what is it
[09:51] <harris_> what's its purpose?
[09:51] <Dr_willis> it lets you install things?
[09:51] <claudy> ^^
[09:51] <harris_> hehehhehehehehehheheh I just type firefox then boomm!!
[09:51] <claudy> :3
[09:51] <Dr_willis> and do other tasks..  what sort of answer ya want.. its a tool that  is a front end.. those are common on linux systems
[09:52] <Dr_willis> thers at least 3 (or more) other different front ends to the packing system.
[09:52] <harris_> THIS IS FUN!!!
[09:52] <MrBogus> haha
[09:52] <Dr_willis> !adept | harris_
[09:52] <ubotu> harris_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:52] <harris_> HEY HEY can someone tell me what programming language should I study?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> harris_,  ALL of them.
[09:52] <claudy> is there a way to revert to the kde3 style menu on kde4?, it bugs me out completely :<
[09:52] <Dr_willis> claudy,  not that i am aware of.
[09:52] <claudy> :/
[09:52] <harris_> hehehehhee Im a vb.net FAN
[09:52] <harris_> so  i think
[09:52] <Dr_willis> I recall a applet for a more normal menu. but not a kde3 menu
[09:53] <harris_> i cant do
[09:53] <Dr_willis> !info gambas
[09:53] <harris_> programming VB.net here
[09:53] <ubotu> Package gambas does not exist in hardy
[09:53] <claudy> hmmrrr
[09:53] <kristian__> bye
[09:53] <Dr_willis> You might want to learn a slightly better language.  then VB.net
[09:53] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:53] <MrBogus> harris_: you learn c/c++
[09:54] <harris_> i know c but c++ not yet
[09:54] <Dr_willis> learn a language, move up/on to others.. the more you learn - the easier it gets to learn others.
[09:54] <harris_> i want some windows application programming
[09:54] <ubuntu__> #kubuntu-de
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Python is handy to learn.
[09:54] <MrBogus> Perl
[09:54] <harris_> hehehehehhehehehe Phyton can i program windows app with Phyton
[09:54] <Dr_willis> Perl is good also. :)
[09:55] <Dr_willis> harris_,  same with perl, ruby, and many other languages also.
[09:55] <Dr_willis> Most all the languages have gui extensions/features.
[09:55] <Dr_willis> harris_,  or you write a 'frontend' to the  app  if its command line only   :)  thers that word again!
[09:56] <MrBogus> harris_: it depends on your interest and what are you wanted to do.
[09:56] <harris_> windows application
[09:56] <Dr_willis> harris_,  how... vague
[09:56] <Dr_willis> You mean apps with  'gui's' ?
[09:56] <harris_> YUPPPP
[09:57] <Dr_willis> thats only slightly less vague. :)
[09:58] <rydan> any idea how to make widgets dock on the desktop?
[09:58] <MrBogus> harris_: start reading a book. lol
[09:58] <Dr_willis> Theres several 'widget' systems out. karamba, desklets,  kde4 has its own system.
[09:59] <harris_> okayyyyyyyyyy windows application - GUI - simple programs lyk games
[09:59] <Dr_willis> and proberly a dozen more i cant rember.
[09:59] <Dr_willis> harris_,  i would say start learning some python, it can do games.
[09:59] <rydan> I need to be more specific.  The built in widget function in kde4.  can these be docked?
[09:59] <harris_> really!
[09:59] <Dr_willis> rydan,  heh.. I dont know that much about kde4 - its a work in progress.
[09:59] <harris_> okay enough of vb.net for now
[10:00] <Dr_willis> !info pysol
[10:00] <ubotu> pysol (source: pysol): X11 solitaire game written in Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.82.1-4.1ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 1459 kB, installed size 6840 kB
[10:00] <rydan> dr_willis: yeah, i can see.  i installed it today.
[10:00] <harris_> DR WILLIS u SURE A DOCTOR
[10:00] <Dr_willis> !info slune
[10:00] <ubotu> slune (source: slune): 3D racing and car-crashing game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13-1 (hardy), package size 10442 kB, installed size 25832 kB
[10:00] <Dr_willis> I think slune is in python also...
[10:02] <Dr_willis> well python with a lot of extensions. :)
[10:03] <bef> oh my god.
[10:09] <Danhop> Yo les kubunteros
[10:16] <corban> i'm having problems with sound
[10:17] <corban> my card is detected
[10:17] <corban> but i get no audio
[10:19] <G1d4n> hello
[10:19] <G1d4n> i'm having problems with wireless card
[10:20] <G1d4n> is there anyone?
[10:21] <Danhop> Who is using Kubuntu Hardy?
[10:21] <Algyz> !wireless | G1d4n
[10:21] <ubotu> G1d4n: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:21] <Danhop> Is there anybody on KDE 4?
[10:22] <Danhop> actually I have a little problem. Kmix doesn't launch by itself. How can I repair it?
[10:22] <corban> i found the fix for the sound problem
[10:22] <corban> reinstall?
[10:22] <corban> maybe
[10:23] <Danhop> no itsn't a sound problem
[10:23] <Danhop> the sound works perfectly
[10:23] <Danhop> the problem is Kmix, I am fed up of running it at each start up of my computer.
[10:26] <Dr_willis> put it in the Autostart dir perhaps.
[10:26] <Dr_willis> or launch it. and save the session
[10:26] <Danhop> where do I find the Autostart directory?
[10:27] <Dr_willis> Its in .kde i belive
[10:27] <Dr_willis> !autostart
[10:27] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html
[10:34] <Danhop> A link like with the command ln ?
[10:36] <Dr_willis> thats one way
[10:44] <harris_> DOCTOR WILLIS THANKS YOU AGAIN
[10:44] <harris_> GTG
[10:46] <Dr_willis> !info libglade2-ruby
[10:46] <ubotu> libglade2-ruby (source: ruby-gnome2): Libglade 2 bindings for the Ruby language. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.16.0-10 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 124 kB
[10:59] <corban> sound stopped working...i have Intel HDA Audio
[11:00] <corban> i have followed the fix that was on ubuntu forums or wiki and it didn't work
[11:00] <corban> oh wait it was a different site
[11:06] <corban> anybody
[11:07] <Algyz> !sound | corban
[11:07] <ubotu> corban: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:08] <corban> yeh it's started
[11:09] <corban> i shut it down and i'm restarting it now
[11:09] <corban> hmm i seems like it keeps restarting
[11:10] <budgieboy> Hi need help
[11:10] <Algyz> Lots of people need ;)
[11:10] <budgieboy> Could not open cache - Adept Manager
[11:10] <Algyz> !help | budgieboy
[11:10] <ubotu> budgieboy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:11] <giacomo> hi..i'm a newbiees and i can't go in internet without windows pc...
[11:11] <budgieboy> what do I do?
[11:11] <giacomo> somebody can tell me where is build essential that i hae to install??
[11:11] <giacomo> in italian is better
[11:12] <Algyz> giacomo:  what kind of internet?
[11:12] <giacomo> adsl
[11:12] <giacomo> i've trust md 3100 modem
[11:12] <Algyz> giacomo:  type: $sudo pppoeconf
[11:12] <giacomo> i've seen the connexant istruction but it give me errore
[11:12] <Algyz> giacomo:  are you connecting through lan?
[11:13] <giacomo> i'm conneting with lan with my window portable pc
[11:13] <Algyz> try this pppoeconf,  hope it'll work
[11:15] <budgieboy> help?
[11:15] <budgieboy> !help
[11:15] <budgieboy> hep
[11:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:15] <giacomo> i will try...but i havte to disconnect my portable pc to see if it work
[11:19] <giacomo_> i have this modem to connect to my linux pc...
[11:19] <giacomo_> now this modem is connected to windows pc and than with lan to my lniux pc..
[11:19] <giacomo_> how i can connect it directly??
[11:20] <giacomo_> i hve follow this guide http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/DigicomMichelangeloUsbCx?highlight=%28michelangelo%29
[11:20] <giacomo_> but it gie me error
[11:21] <giacomo_> but it say that i've to istall build-essential...
[11:21] <giacomo_> but i don' find it
[11:21] <giacomo_> PLEASE HELP ME
[11:24] <Dr_willis> the package name is 'build-essential' and you can install it with the package manager tools
[11:24] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[11:24] <ubotu> build-essential (source: build-essential): informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:24] <markio_> ciao a tutti...info veloce...sono connesso con un telefonino, xò nn mi fa navigare  sul browser ...invece scaricare aggiornamenti o anke venire qui in irc si...ki m svela l'arcano !?
[11:24] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' should install the package for you.
[11:25] <Signil> hi I cant install a .deb file I used sudo dpkg -i name of file but its not working and I am in the right directory
[11:25] <Signil>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:25] <Signil> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:26] <Dr_willis> i would verify the spelling of the name. Use tab completion to be sure you get it right.
[11:27] <giacomo_> i'm isatlling build essential i'm prayng for good
[11:28] <Signil> tx
[11:29] <wesley__> i wannahave pure kde how can i remove all gnome packages?
[11:30] <Dr_willis> !purekde
[11:30] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[11:30] <Dr_willis> Good luck with that.. :)
[11:31] <Signil> I am trying to get my cam to work.. so far this is where I have got http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=685731
[11:32] <wesley__> Dr_willis: doesnt work get error at the end ( running 8.04
[11:32] <Signil> it has been metioned there I have to edit sum config.xml file but I cant find it :s
[11:35] <mikael_> hey, is there any text editor for KDE that has inline/auto spell check?
[11:36] <Signil> its ok I found it :D
[11:36] <Dr_willis> wesley__,  what dosent work?
[11:37] <wesley__> its for 7.10 and at end i get error can not find hal-device-manager
[11:38] <wesley__> i use 8.04
[11:40] <Dr_willis> wesley__,   whats 'its' ? I dont rember your original problem.
[11:40] <wesley__> removing ubuntu-desktop complety thats my problem i cant get ie removed
[11:43] <Dr_willis> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package. If you want to remove all gnome related packages. You may have to just fire up the package maanger, and search/remove  them manually
[11:44] <ElVirolo> hi everyone :)
[11:44] <Dr_willis> Helloo.
[11:44] <ElVirolo> i  have a strange problem with kde 3.5.9 (kubuntu hardy) : the icons on my destkop are actually the directories from / (/usr, /bin, /var, etc.) while my ~/Desktop directory contains completely different files (obviously) ... why is that ?
[11:44] <Dr_willis> ElVirolo,  are /usr and /var on their own filesystem?
[11:45] <ElVirolo> Dr_willis: nope
[11:45] <ElVirolo> they're on /
[11:45] <Dr_willis> ElVirolo,  and if you look in ~/Desktop they are not showing up in there?
[11:45] <ElVirolo> Dr_willis: no
[11:46] <Dr_willis> That is weird.
[11:46] <Dr_willis> but you can click in the /usr icon on the desktop and it goes to /usr?
[11:46] <ElVirolo> I've been told on #kde that this is a kown kubuntu problem
[11:46] <Dr_willis> First ive ever heard of the problem
[11:46] <ElVirolo> Dr_willis: yes, it does. isn't that strange ?
[11:47] <Signil> ok one soltuion for my cam to work on skype is by adding a few lines in the "video" section in the config.xml file but there isnt ant video section :s
[11:47] <okv> Hi, all. I was doing version upgrade through Adept and it suddenly stoopped X  and I found myself in the console
[11:47] <Dr_willis> ElVirolo,  very weird.. I would wonder if a  NEW user with new default settings would have the same problem
[11:48] <ElVirolo> Dr_willis: good idea, i'll try that a bit later
[11:48] <ElVirolo> thanks anyway :)
[11:49] <Signil> could sum1 show me where I shuld add these lines in the config file..since there isnt any video section :s
[11:49] <codeRat> hi, I'm trying to install a file trough konsole. I get this error "/bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory". I checked the file with vim and there does not seem to be any strange finishing of the line
[11:49] <Dr_willis> codeRat,  you need to use an editor like fte, or others tht can show those control characters.
[11:50] <Dr_willis> codeRat,  ive had similer issues with gettting files from windows/notepad.exe. you could track down a dos2unix converter script. or some other cr/lf converter tool.
[11:50] <Dr_willis> codeRat, i would imagine that EVERY line in the file has that issue.
[11:51] <codeRat> Dr_willis: does those converters work wtih binarfiles too?
[11:51] <Dr_willis> binary files? err.. No.. that wouldent make sence.
[11:52] <Dr_willis> and most likely break the binary file badly
[11:52] <mike> hello everyone
[11:53] <Dr_willis> !info dos2linux
[11:53] <ubotu> Package dos2linux does not exist in hardy
[11:54] <Dr_willis> !info dos2unix
[11:54] <ubotu> Package dos2unix does not exist in hardy
[11:54] <Dr_willis> bummer..
[11:54] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install tofrodos      - for those 2 commands. it seems, :)
[12:00] <codeRat> Dr_willis: yeah I tried it right now. it doesn't work. When I tried to open this file in kate I got a warning that this file is a binary file :S
[12:00] <Dr_willis> codeRat,   where did this file come from?
[12:00] <Dr_willis> kate may be saying its binary because of the extra characters in it
[12:01] <Dr_willis> if its truely a binary file.  I dont think it would begin eith #!/bin/sh
[12:01] <kaizer> hi
[12:02] <codeRat> even if I open it vim I see a lot of strange characters. There are some lines at the beginning of the file like #!/bin/sh..
[12:02] <Dr_willis> codeRat,  sounds to me like the file is totally messed up then.
[12:03] <codeRat> it's a file to install f-secure antivirus :S
[12:03] <jussio1> codeRat: definately binary...
[12:04] <jussio1> codeRat: why are you trying to install fsecure anyway?
[12:05] <codeRat> jussio1: no particular reason :)
[12:05] <OsamaK> Hello. How to add more languages to my keyboard in kde?
[12:05] <OsamaK>  Also, how to fix this problem <http://osamakm.googlepages.com/Toolbar.jpg> and restore a normal panel?
[12:05] <kaizer> ¿Qué tal funciona la versión Hardy?
[12:05] <blackflag> Hello all :)
[12:06] <blackflag> Im trying to setup a postfix-cluster with drbd an heartbeat
[12:06] <codeRat> maybe becouse I'm used to have an AV on my PC (I'm on linux for about two weeks) :P
[12:06] <blackflag> drbd is configured and now I want to use heartbeat with dopd
[12:06] <blackflag> but Im not able to find dopd
[12:07] <blackflag> what should I do to make heartbeat working with dopd?
[12:08] <wesley__> someone knows how to enable cpufreq?
[12:08] <wesley__> on intel celeron 540
[12:09] <OsamaK> ok?
[12:10] <OsamaK> could someone answer?
[12:10] <Lynoure> OsamaK: in kde3?
[12:10]  * Dr_willis has no idea on Languages.
[12:10] <OsamaK> kde4
[12:10] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[12:10] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:11] <Lynoure> OsamaK: the panel looks normal...
[12:11] <OsamaK> linuxwizard: look at selected items at desktop
[12:11] <Dr_willis> I wonder when kde4 will have the 'move applets in the panel' feature
[12:11] <OsamaK> sorry
[12:11] <OsamaK> Lynoure:
[12:12] <Dr_willis> looks like your appllets or whatever they are called are on the desktop. remove them and re-add them back to the panel.
[12:12] <Dr_willis> what are they called now? Plasmids? plasmoids?
[12:12] <Tom47> the last couple of day dolphin has crashed with signal 11 SIGSEGV whenever i try to open my user home
[12:13] <Tom47> it quite happily opens other users home
[12:13] <Tom47> konqeror opens it ok
[12:14] <Dr_willis> can other users open the crashy home dir?
[12:14] <Danhop> Dolphin sucks. I do not understand why they are working on it ...
[12:14] <Danhop> Konqueror is better
[12:15] <Tom47> Dr_willis: umm have not tried
[12:15] <xanax`> hello
[12:16] <xanax`> is there a "qt 4.4 rc1 .deb binary file" available ?
[12:17] <xanax`> I only find 4.3.4
[12:17] <Lynoure> Danhop: you can keep on using Konqueror, if you wish
[12:18] <Dr_willis> i alwys set up konquer as the default.
[12:18] <Lynoure> Danhop: or even leave the KDE project your opinion on Dolphin... Here it does not unfortunately have much effect.
[12:19] <ElVirolo> i  have a strange problem with kde 3.5.9 (kubuntu hardy) : the icons on my destkop are actually the directories from / (/usr, /bin, /var, etc.) while my ~/Desktop directory contains completely different files (obviously) ... why is that ?
[12:20] <Dr_willis> ElVirolo,  ya check the forums yet?  Does it affect other users as well?
[12:20] <corban> for some reason gcc won't compile source
[12:20] <osmo> Hi, all! I just upgraded to 8.04 and I can't startx,
[12:20] <ElVirolo> Dr_willis: nope, doesn't affect other users
[12:21] <Tom47> Dr_willis: i will have to do that i think
[12:21] <osmo> It says: fatal server error: no screens found
[12:21] <osmo> Could anyone help me, I'm trying to get it work before F1 starts so that I could watch the race
[12:22] <osmo> How can I configure x?
[12:22] <Dr_willis> X and sound breakage - are way too common a problem it seems with upgrades. :(
[12:23] <osmo> If anyone could tell me how can I configure X, apparently it thinks I have no "screens" (monitor?) and doesn't start..
[12:23] <osmo> And sinec I have no way to get to x, I can't browse to a website to look for a way to fix it
[12:23] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure SOMTHINGHERE   (i never can rember)
[12:23] <corban> help when running ./configure for wine 0.9.60 it give me output "C compiler can't create executable files
[12:24] <crimsun> apt-get build-dep wine
[12:24] <Dr_willis> corban,  you did install the C compiler?
[12:24] <Dr_willis> build-essential package.
[12:25] <jussio1> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:25] <osmo> thanks I'll try that, hopefully It'll help
[12:25] <corban> of course it;s gcc a system file
[12:26] <Dr_willis> normally when someone comes in here and says 'C compiler can't create executable files' they dont have 'build-essential' installed
[12:28] <corban> apt-get version of wine is old
[12:29] <Dr_willis> There is a more current wine unofficial repository.
[12:30] <corban> which is?
[12:30] <corban> i'll look
[12:31] <Dr_willis> !wine
[12:31] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[12:33] <crazy_bus> has font rendering changed in 8.04's openoffice and kde. As I don't remember font being this jagged: http://imagebin.org/17117
[12:34] <halcyonCorsair> where should i ask about nvidia kubuntu issues?
[12:36] <jussio1> crazy_bus: have you got anti aliasing on?
[12:36] <blackflag> !heartbeat
[12:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heartbeat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <crazy_bus> jussi1 do you turn it on in openoffice, or system settings?
[12:41] <jussio1> !tab | crazy_bus
[12:41] <ubotu> crazy_bus: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:41] <jussio1> crazy_bus: in system settings
[12:42] <crazy_bus> sorry about getting your username wrong.  Since konversation wasn't in the default install, I've being using chatzilla which has a few tab problems
[12:44] <crazy_bus> jussio1: I turned it on from system setting to enabled and it didn't change the look in openoffice
[12:44] <jussio1> :/
[12:46] <crazy_bus> jussio1: do you have smooth letters in OOo?
[12:47] <jussio1> crazy_bus: yes
[12:50] <crazy_bus> jussio1: and that's using kde4?
[12:50] <jussio1> correct
[12:50] <jussio1> crazy_bus: are you on kde4?
[12:51] <crazy_bus> jussio1: yes
[12:52] <jussio1> crazy_bus: hrm, do you have kde 3 installed? (kde 4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 btw)
[12:53] <okv> Hi, all
[12:53] <crazy_bus> jussio1: I don't have kde 3 installed.  I asked in the other channel a little while ago and got no response
[12:53] <okv> I just upgraded to 8.04 but my screen is refreshing very very slowly
[12:54] <okv> It takes about 15 seconds just to scroll down some website because it shows about 1 frame per second
[12:54] <okv> Any idea what's causing it? display drivers? Any quick fix? I'd like to watch F1 but there's no point to watch it when I get only 1 frame per second
[12:55] <okv> Even when I alt-tab it loads the window with content very slowly from up to down
[12:56] <okv> 2-3 seconds to load the content
[12:56] <okv> Or is 8.04 just eating so much more resources that my PC can't keep up anymore?
[12:59] <szymon> hi, I have a problem with logout from kde (the server crashes), I have no time for repairs, will this script for cron work http://paste.ubuntu.com/8343/ ?
[12:59] <mischel> hi
[13:00] <mischel> how i do to install firefox?
[13:00] <okv> mischel: sudo apt-get install firefox
[13:00] <mischel> do you speak german?:-)
[13:02] <okv> No.
[13:05] <jussio1> !de | mischel
[13:05] <ubotu> mischel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:07] <andy_> any one any good with nfs? i have it installed and files shared on my mythbuntu machine i am now on my ubuntu machine how to i find the shares?
[13:10] <rohan> whenever i try to play a file using mplayer, i get this message - AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[13:10] <rohan> after that it uses the AO [alsa] and play back works
[13:10] <rohan> is this a known problem, expected to happen?
[13:11] <andy_> try #mplayer
[13:11] <rohan> andy_: i don't think it's a mplayer problem
[13:16] <SSJ_GZ> Riddell: Might want to delete this Dot comment: http://dot.kde.org/1209137864/1209298279/
[13:18] <Signil> I am having this problem http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/linux-uvc-devel/2007-August/001929.html
[13:18] <Signil> pls help
[13:19] <rohan> anyone noticed that in kubuntu 8.04 firefox, i can't directly click on a pdf file and have it open with kpdf. same for other associations. how do i remeedy the problem?
[13:22] <giacomo> c'è qualche italiano??
[13:22] <Lynoure> !it | giacomo
[13:22] <ubotu> giacomo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:22] <jussio1> !it | giacomo
[13:22] <jussio1> hehe
[13:22] <giacomo> !it
[13:22] <Lynoure> Signil: I don't know anything about Bison webcams, sorry
[13:22] <giacomo> and where i find ubuntu.it??
[13:23] <giacomo> ah understood
[13:23] <giacomo> it's ok
[13:23] <jussio1> :)
[13:24] <Dr_willis> rohan,  set mplayer to use alsa by default in the configs. Not the pulse audio stuff. (i think)
[13:27] <rohan> Dr_willis: that worked, thanks
[13:28] <rohan> Dr_willis: any idea on how to repair the firefox associations thing?
[13:28] <rohan> it worked nice in 7.10
[13:29] <rohan> e.g. clicking on a pdf file anywhere gave me the option to open it in "KPDF", but not anymore
[13:30] <Dr_willis> I always just use the  some extensions for firefox to auto download pdf's
[13:30] <rohan> ah ok
[13:32] <harris> HEELLLLLLLLOOOO
[13:32] <Dr_willis> !hi
[13:32] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:33] <harris> what compiler should I download, when I want to learn PyThon... (wit GUI)
[13:33] <rohan> harris: python "interpreter" is already installed on kubuntu
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Python is not a compiled language.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:34] <rohan> about gui, do you mean an IDE, or a gui toolkit for python programming language itself?
[13:34] <harris> YES
[13:34] <anabain> why can't I upgrade my kubuntu hardy? It's two days since there is no upgrade available
[13:34] <xinbao> idle with the python is good
[13:34] <Dr_willis> its best to get a book/doc/guide and start typing in some pyton examples.
[13:34] <harris> whattttttttt Python is not a compiled langauge?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> harris,  we said ITS NOT A COMPILED language.
[13:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:35] <harris> okay DOkTor
[13:35] <Dr_willis> python-doc - Documentation for the high-level object-oriented language Python
[13:36] <Dr_willis> python-kde3-doc - Documentation and examples for PyKDE
[13:36] <harris> okay I want to make some simple GUI application using Python
[13:36] <xinbao> just like c/c++ is complied  and  javascript is non-complied
[13:37] <Dr_willis> i would start with making some simple non-gui applications first. :)
[13:37] <harris> of course...........
[13:38] <Dr_willis> like  helloworld :)
[13:38] <harris> soooooo what program shuld i look for?
[13:38] <harris> printf
[13:38] <harris> heeeeehehhehe
[13:38] <harris> python-kde3-doc
[13:38] <harris> ????????
[13:39] <veyron> harris: you need a texteditor, like kate
[13:39] <Dr_willis> what program? I would get the various doc packages, and google for a few tutorials. perhaps html books/pdf books on pytohn
[13:39] <jussio1> !info diveintopython
[13:39] <ubotu> diveintopython (source: diveintopython): free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[13:39] <xinbao> python is good , very pop language,,
[13:40] <xinbao> wxpython can do some simple gui,and it easy to use
[13:41] <Dr_willis> python-wxglade - GUI designer written in Python with wxPython
[13:42] <Lynoure> then there is also #python
[13:42] <harris> okay, il download it later.... first i download diveintopython
[13:43] <Dr_willis> of course they will say to get some books and start reading. :)
[13:43] <veyron> harris: type "def hello_world(): nl print "Hello World" nlhello_world() " where nl is 'newline' and save it as hello.py
[13:43] <harris> soooooooooooooo here it is already installed
[13:43] <harris> YET
[13:43] <Dr_willis> python is included with the normal ubuntu install. Its used by a lot of system scripts and tools
[13:43] <harris> i can't see it
[13:43] <veyron> then click on 'terminal' and type: python ./hello.py
[13:44] <Dr_willis> cant see what?
[13:44] <harris> helppp me i cant see the program i just downladed namely (diveintopython)
[13:45] <xinbao> just type 'python' in cmdline ,you will see >>>  that is python haha :)
[13:45] <Lynoure> veyron: forgot the indentiations... so that one just errors
[13:45] <harris> wait XINBAO where is the  of that python blah blah
[13:46] <Dr_willis> http://docs.python.org/download.html
[13:46] <harris> YEAAHHHH
[13:47] <Dr_willis> time to learn some linux basics i think. befor you dive into anything..
[13:48] <xinbao> harryis:you mean /usr/bin/python ?
[13:49] <harris> i mean the FOLDER of python
[13:49] <veyron> try locate python in cmd;-)
[13:50] <harris> yahhhhhhhhh i located it
[13:50] <Dr_willis> http://www.pyweek.org/ - lots of littel python games
[13:50] <harris> its my first HELLO WORLD and error
[13:50] <harris> IndentationError: expected an indented block
[13:51] <harris> >>> def hello_world(): nl print "Hello WOrld" nlhello_world()
[13:51] <harris>   File "<stdin>", line 1
[13:51] <harris>     def hello_world(): nl print "Hello WOrld" nlhello_world()
[13:51] <harris>                               ^
[13:51] <harris> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
[13:51] <harris> >>>
[13:51] <veyron> ;-)
[13:51] <harris> hahahahahahha
[13:51] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:51] <harris> wait wait how can i join the #python
[13:51] <veyron> replace nl by a hit of the return key
[13:51] <harris> when im joining its said that =>[Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel
[13:52] <Dr_willis> You are supposed to use a new line... not a 'nl'
[13:52] <harris> I'm Going CRAZY with this LINUX THING!!!!! I LYK ITTT
[13:52] <veyron> I didn't want to flood the room, so I wrote all in one line;-)
[13:52] <Lynoure> harris: you can also join #python which is the channel for python (unsurpringly) :)
[13:53]  * Dr_willis sedated harris  for the good of the channel.
[13:53] <harris> thats the promblem I cant Join the channel
[13:53] <Lynoure> harris: what happens if you try? and which irc client?
[13:54] <harris> [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel
[13:54] <veyron> search the net for: python Hello World or s.th. like helloworld.py
[13:54] <harris> THAT WHAT's HAppENsss
[13:54] <Dragnslcr> !register | harris
[13:54] <ubotu> harris: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[13:55] <Dr_willis> do like it says and make a nick and identify..
[13:57] <xinbao> harris: i alsa get the info 'You need to be identified to join that channel' but i think reading better than asking for the beginner,because many problems had answered in book
[13:57] <harris> ok ok ok
[13:57] <Dr_willis> http://funnyboat.sourceforge.net/download.php
[13:57] <Dr_willis> fun little python shooter game :)
[13:59] <harris> IM GOING CRAZY FUN2x
[13:59] <harris> TRIPLE THE FUN....................... i am TOTALLY NEW to this Enviroment
[13:59] <emilsedgh> There are some cool new games coming for 4.1 guys.i think about 5 or 6 games.
[14:01] <jussio1> !caps | HanzZ
[14:01] <ubotu> HanzZ: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:01] <jussio1> !caps | harris
[14:01] <ubotu> harris: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[14:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:01] <jussio1> sorry HanzZ
[14:01] <HanzZ> ?
[14:01] <HanzZ> ok
[14:01] <Dr_willis> heh - HanzZ  hadent said anything in... err.. ages. :)
[14:02] <HanzZ> i'm just idling here
[14:02] <harris> okkkkkk mr ubotu I'm just excited.....  hey got some questions.... when I download in adept Manager where does it go?
[14:03] <Dr_willis> harris,  you 'install' with adept manager. the packages get installed.  the .deb files get cached in /var/cache/apt but you dont need to mess with them
[14:03] <veyron> harris: try locate *.deb ;-)
[14:03] <myk_robinson> morning. I need some help troubleshooting a har dfreeze on a fresh Kubuntu install. Check here for details:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4810848#post4810848
[14:03] <Dr_willis> harris,  and ubotu  is a bot. :)
[14:03] <xinbao> harris:keep calm,,, fresfisfh must have some time to adust sea,isn't it?
[14:04] <harris> whhhheewwwzzzz Shame........... Shame
[14:05] <harris> shame on me
[14:05] <harris> hehehehehehhe im a fresh water fish
[14:06] <harris> printing hello world
[14:08] <jussio1> harris: while its fantastic you are learning python, we should probably keep this channel free for kubuntu specific help.
[14:08] <veyron> myk_robinson: visiting the logfiles could give you more info
[14:08] <myk_robinson> veyron: i think these are in /var/log, correct? Is there one in particular i should be examining?
[14:09] <Dr_willis> I just discivered about 100 little mini games in python to keep me busy at work now... THanks a lot!  Now i will proberly get fired.
[14:09] <Dr_willis> :P
[14:09] <myk_robinson> dang, it just froze from a reboot.
[14:09] <corban> kubuntu's package selection is terrible
[14:10] <Dr_willis> corban,  add the other repositories.
[14:10] <atle> can someone help me with a problem after upgrading to 8.04? Knetworkmanager says "No network device found"
[14:10] <corban> there are more....i'm already thetre lol
[14:10] <jussio1> corban: there are 20000 ish packages in the repos, cant be that bad.
[14:11] <harris> hehehehheh DR willis
[14:11] <thompa> same old question this time. and difference in 64 version?
[14:12] <corban> well i'm on 64bit
[14:12] <thompa> *any noticable changes in 64
[14:12] <thompa> corban: ive had two very differnt problems on each
[14:12] <veyron> myk_robinson: use fgrep to find errors in /var/log
[14:13] <thompa> upgraded, but im doing cllean install
[14:13] <thompa> on the updated 64 cant fsk anymore and have to do ctrl d
[14:14] <myk_robinson> veyron: i'm a little green with cli, would it be   fgrep error /var/log ?
[14:14] <splawinski> is this venue ok for a problem from a new kubuntu user?
[14:14] <thompa> corban: im on an amde64 X2 2200 i think
[14:14] <veyron> man fgrep;-) sry don't know it,
[14:15] <atle> anyone?
[14:16] <emilsedgh> !anyone | atle
[14:16] <ubotu> atle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[14:17] <emilsedgh> hm
[14:17] <veyron> myk_robinson: sudo fgrep error /var/log/* could be good
[14:17] <BluesKaj> atle, behind a router ? If so ,reboot the router
[14:18] <myk_robinson> thanks, i just found that too at an online grep tutorial :)
[14:18] <veyron> atle: ifconfig?
[14:19] <atle> works fine when i boot win on the machine
[14:19] <atle> and was never a problem untill i upgraded
[14:20] <atle> veyron: hmm.. never heard of
[14:20] <veyron> type in commandline: man ifconfig read about it and try to use it
[14:20] <romanstefan> i have rebooted after installing packages, and with no adept allready running (or any apt get comands etc entered in a terminal) i get this message: "another process is using the packaging system database..... would you like to resolve this problem....." none of the options it promts solve the issue.
[14:22] <xanax`> how can I add an application launcher to the desktop of an application that has root access
[14:23] <xanax`> I would like to see a password window and then the application granted to be run
[14:23] <thompa> well anybody got issue or speed improvement on 64? compiz?
[14:24] <flipstar> xanax`: just use kdesudo infront of the application name
[14:24] <atle> veyron: hmm.. seems like just "lo" are up, guess eth0 or eth1 should be up.. bot how do i get them up and running?
[14:24] <thompa> on the 386 no usb automounting on certain devices, but they mounted in 64
[14:25] <veyron> atle: there is a output for eth0?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> xanax`, yeah i've trying to get an answer to that question for a week now , since google earth went beta and now requires permissin to launch from the /opt/google-earth file
[14:25] <atle> Veryon: only when using -a
[14:26] <harris> heyyyyy python is easyyyyyyy
[14:26] <harris> for basic
[14:26] <flipstar> BluesKaj: why dont you install as user / give the file user permissions ?
[14:27] <atle> had a problem with sudo not working, could that influence the netwiormanager in any way?
[14:27] <veyron> there are a lot of configurable things when setting up eth0 in cmd;-)
[14:27] <atle> well, up untill now it has just worked, only thing i did was upgrade to 8.04
[14:27] <BluesKaj> flipstar, it won't install as user , has to be sudo'd
[14:28] <flipstar> BluesKaj: are you using the binary from earth.google.com or the ubuntu installer ?
[14:30] <BluesKaj> flipstar, the binary
[14:31] <wolfger> good morning, everybody
[14:31] <flipstar> hm i always had trouble with it..i'm using the 'googleearth-package'
[14:31] <jussio1> good afternoon wolfger
[14:31] <BluesKaj> flipstar, I would have used the ubuntu installer if there was one .
[14:31] <wolfger> Am I the only one having severe CPU usage problem with Amarok in Hardy?
[14:31] <jussio1> BluesKaj: isnt google earth in medibuntu?
[14:31] <flipstar> BluesKaj: just install googleearth-package and type make-googleearth-package
[14:32] <flipstar> it will create a .deb
[14:32] <BluesKaj> flipstar, really eh ?
[14:32] <HARRIZ> hello
[14:32] <snikker> my nvidia settings (config with nvidia-settings) are not applyed at reboot. how can i fix this?
[14:33] <atilla> hello everybody
[14:33] <flipstar> BluesKaj: it's basicly the same since it uses also the binary..but runs somehow better here
[14:33] <Romnous> :D
[14:33] <xanax`> when I add new repositories to the "adept repositories configuration window", it doesn't display new added entries. Has anyone noticed the same behaviour ?
[14:33] <Romnous> will 8.10 be KDE4 only ?
[14:33] <flipstar> snikker: run nvidia-settings as root and click on save to xorg.conf
[14:34] <ari_> anyway to edit the panel kicker? change the background etc?
[14:34] <romanstefan> yes xanax i had the same
[14:35] <snikker> flipstar: i've do it as root and saved (it's write correctly in xorg.conf), but this settings are not loaded after reboot
[14:35] <flipstar> snikker: make also sure you don't melt it with the existent
[14:36] <ari_> I was talking about in KDE4
[14:36] <snikker> flipstar: i've set 1024x768 85Mhz (values from monitor user's guide) but at reboot set me at 75mhz
[14:37] <snikker> flipstar: mhz --> hz
[14:37] <flipstar> snikker: so the values in xorg.conf are correct ?
[14:38] <snikker> flipstar: yes i think that are correct
[14:38] <Romnous> will 8.10 be KDE4 only ?
[14:38] <flipstar> snikker: it should be HorizSync       30.0 - 98.0 and VertRefresh     50.0 - 160.0
[14:38] <xanax`> there is two versions of kubuntu, Romnous
[14:38] <Romnous> xanax`, i know
[14:38] <Romnous> but most of the applications aren't ported to kde4 afaik
[14:39] <Romnous> so i'm wondering, if the next release will be kde4 only
[14:39] <snikker> flipstar: i've got: HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 and VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0 (checked with monitor user's guide)
[14:39] <flipstar> Romnous: ask in 3-4 month's :)
[14:39] <romanstefan> i have rebooted after installing packages, and with no adept allready running (or any apt get comands etc entered in a terminal) i get this message: "another process is using the packaging system database..... would you like to resolve this problem....." none of the options it promts solve the issue.
[14:40] <xanax`> when will be the next official version of ubuntu ? next year ? then maybe most of applications will have been updated to kde 4 at this time.
[14:40] <Romnous> flipstar, oh i will :)
[14:40] <romanstefan> has anyone had this?
[14:40] <romanstefan> is this related to your problem xanax?
[14:40] <flipstar> snikker: you can try to correct this value's maybe your monitor isnt detected correct or so
[14:40] <BluesKaj> flipstar, jussio1 , ok  the repos have the older version of google with an upgrade option , thx i never thought to to look since all they had in the repos a week ago was the debian buil pkg
[14:41] <flipstar> xanax`: every 6 months comes a new version
[14:41] <BluesKaj> build
[14:41] <Dragnslcr> xanax`- next version will most likely be 8.10
[14:41] <xanax`> oh ok.
[14:41] <hhMish> How do I  install kubuntu without GUI ?
[14:41] <Romnous> hhMish, lol ?
[14:41] <Romnous> get ubuntu server edition
[14:41] <Dragnslcr> hhMish- get the Ubuntu server version
[14:41] <Romnous> :)
[14:42] <hhMish> ok thnks
[14:42] <Dragnslcr> Without KDE, Kubuntu is just the same as Ubuntu
[14:42] <corban> where i can find linkx to extra reops
[14:43] <Dragnslcr> corban- they're all checkboxes in Adept
[14:43] <corban> just those?
[14:45] <flipstar> corban: these are the recommend sources there are dozen of other's
[14:45] <flipstar> but most of them are inofficial
[14:47] <corban> ok
[14:48] <sc0tt> привет, кто ставил virtualbox под кубунту 8,04?
[14:48] <Lynoure> !ru | sc0tt
[14:48] <ubotu> sc0tt: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:49] <corban> how often are the repos updated?
[14:49] <okv> all the time
[14:49] <corban> how often should i update
[14:49] <corban> once a day, twice?
[14:49] <flipstar> corban: it automaticly search for updates daily
[14:49] <corban> i like to have the newest software
[14:49] <corban> ok
[14:50] <flipstar> corban: most of updates are security and bug fixes
[14:50] <corban> i moved from sabayon (gentoo based) to kububtu
[14:50] <sc0tt> thx ))
[14:50] <flipstar> corban: welcome to kubuntu then :)
[14:51] <corban> i hope i haven't gotten people 'angry' with me...i think i did in the off-topic channel just from pointing out an observation
[14:52] <BluesKaj> no is angry with you corban :)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> no one
[14:52] <corban> ok cool
[14:53] <corban> i'm just kinda checking it out...if i'm happy with the community i contribute the best i can
[14:54] <BluesKaj> corban, a hint , don't use "absolute" when describing something either negatively or positively ..there are no absolutes
[14:54] <corban> sorry just pointing out an observation a friend made who is an highly experienced linux user
[14:56] <corban> thnx for the welcome by the wat it really means alot
[14:56] <corban> as i am testing the support waters and community-friendliness waters
[14:56] <gromozekin> hi there.
[14:57] <gromozekin> it s impossible to install new iconset in kubuntu 8.04!
[14:57] <gromozekin> )
[14:59] <LimCore> when ubuntu will support sound recording, that actually works on modern hardware?
[15:05] <schroedi> Hi
[15:06] <trident523> !hi | schroedi
[15:06] <ubotu> schroedi: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:06] <schroedi> Hi
[15:06] <schroedi> german?
[15:07] <corban> can someone help me with patching wine?
[15:07] <corban> or should i goto winehq channel
[15:07] <HARRIZ> HELLLLLLLO
[15:07] <flipstar> schroedi: german in #kubuntu-de
[15:08] <schroedi> THX
[15:08] <pick> ciao
[15:08] <schroedi> bye
[15:08] <flipstar> corban: when it's not kubuntu specific #winehq would probably better
[15:12] <flipstar> can i change the style of kmenu somehow ? a background picture or so would be cool :)
[15:13] <okv> Hi, all! Does anyone know how to fix "slow graphics" problem? after I upgraded to 8.04, everything in graphics is really slow, when I scroll down a website it takes about 15 seconds to do , two frames per second
[15:14] <okv> Same with all videos, you can see each frame loading from up to down
[15:15] <Romnous> flipstar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=515648
[15:15] <okv> It seems like sometihng to do with graphics card, as it updates the screen so slowly
[15:15] <spiroo> If I need help with apache2 config, where do I ask?
[15:21] <flipstar> Romnous: thanks :)
[15:21] <flipstar> spiroo: #ubuntu-server probably
[15:21] <flipstar> okv: just install the graphic's driver
[15:22] <spiroo> flipstar: Thanks, but I found channel apache .D
[15:22] <flipstar> that's cool :) if it's a very small problem i also could help you i think
[15:26] <okv> flipstar: I found a solution now. I had to remove xgl
[15:27] <okv> flipstar: I removed package called xserver-xgl or something like that and restarted the system, now it runs smoothly and refreshes screen normally
[15:28] <BluesKaj> okv, what card ?
[15:31] <okv> BluesKaj: Intel's integrated, 965 or something like that
[15:32] <okv> BluesKaj: I found a page with google that said XGL causes this problem with older Ati and Intel's integrated graphics
[15:32] <okv> But right now I have problem with flash. Works perfectly with Firefox but I can't get any flash content showing up on opera
[15:32] <okv> Flash worked finely on Opera before I upgraded to 8.04
[15:33] <BluesKaj> opera not working on youtube then ?
[15:33] <okv> nope
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ok, flashplugin-nonfree installed ?
[15:33] <okv> Yes, and it works perfectly with firefox.
[15:34] <flipstar> okv: maybe use the beta of opera
[15:34] <flipstar> you can grab it from www.opera.com
[15:34] <okv> flashplugin can't be made to work with the version that comes with 8.04 Kubuntu?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> I just installed opera with apt..gonna check
[15:34] <okv> I prefer to use the versions that come from repo if at all possible
[15:34] <flipstar> somehow probably yes
[15:35] <flipstar> okv: first, is the flashplugin listed in opera ?
[15:35] <okv> yes
[15:35] <okv> I checked opera:plugins and it's there,
[15:36] <okv> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so <-- this is listed in opera:plugins
[15:36] <flipstar> okay..and it is probably also enabled ?
[15:37] <okv> I don't know where to disable or enable it
[15:37] <flipstar> in opera settings plugins or so
[15:37] <flipstar> preferences>content
[15:37] <snikker> how i can change the resolution of kdm (post login screen)?
[15:38] <okv> Yes, plugins are enabled in Opera preferences
[15:39] <flipstar> okv: than it's probably opera itself that don't work proper
[15:40] <flipstar> snikker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-9a8fa8e79e2458de1eb69eadb2c97a633be81a42
[15:40] <okv> That's too bad.. I guess I'll just have to stop using Opera and use Firefox until Opera fixes it's compatibility with flashplugin
[15:41] <spiroo> Does somebody in here has experience with apache2 configuration? I do not get any answer in apache or ubuntu-server channel :(
[15:41] <okv> Weird thing is, thoug, that it used to work with older Opera before I upgraded to 8.04
[15:41] <flipstar> okv: it works great with the beta..and they even provide .deb's
[15:41] <flipstar> spiroo: whats the problem ?
[15:42] <okv> Shouuld Opera's plugin path include /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[15:42] <spiroo> flipstar: I cannot access root when I am going to http://localhost, then It seems it does not read my .htaccess file.
[15:43] <okv> I just noticed that those paths are included in Opera's plugin path
[15:43] <Dfizzle> Lo. I've just installed 8.04. However, this is not in the languange I chose, and whenever I try apt-get install, it gives me "packet not found". I tried reinstalling but did the same. Any suggestions?
[15:43] <flipstar> okv: yes that's correct
[15:44] <flipstar> spiroo: you have the file mentioned under AccessFileName ?
[15:44] <HARRIZ> help me i downloaded bsdgames-nonfree and i cant find it
[15:44] <flipstar> Dfizzle: systemsettings>language and adept>software sources
[15:45] <spiroo> flipstar: I have all files. Not sure what you mean with AccessFileName though.
[15:45] <flipstar> spiroo: you have to give the path of the htaccess files in the config if it's a none standart path
[15:45] <flipstar> spiroo: that's an entry in the apache2.config file
[15:46] <Dfizzle> flipstar: theres no languange and adept :|
[15:46] <spiroo> flipstar: Yes it says: "AccessFileName .htaccess"
[15:47] <flipstar> Dfizzle: you definitive can choose the language from systemsettings>language
[15:47] <Dfizzle> theres only one languange
[15:47] <Dfizzle> US english
[15:47] <flipstar> Dfizzle: than add another
[15:47] <spiroo> flipstar: But it should work without editting in there. I have getting this problem before. I do not remeber though how to solve it :( If i remember right, I should edit something in sites-enabled for apache2.
[15:47] <Dfizzle> + the bigger problem was that apt-get install does not work.
[15:47] <Dfizzle> I had same problem with 7.10 but reinstall fixed it. Didn't this time
[15:48] <blackflag> how can I disable postfix daemon starting during bootup
[15:48] <blackflag> ?
[15:48] <Juan__> When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?
[15:48] <Dfizzle> maybe I'll do 3rd install-> :p
[15:48] <blackflag> !run level
[15:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about run level - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:49] <llutz> blackflag: use update-rc.d
[15:49] <spiroo> flipstar: I changed to AllowOverride All instead of None. But now it says, 403 forbidden on every single page I am trying to access :D
[15:49] <flipstar> Dfizzle: what you mean apt-get install doesn't work ?
[15:49] <Dfizzle> flipstar: whatever I try to get, it says "Packet not found"
[15:49] <Juan__> update it
[15:49] <halcyonCorsair> how come pulseaudio isn't setup by default in kubuntu?
[15:50] <Juan__> Dfizzle: Have you tried clicking "Fetch updates"?
[15:50] <Juan__> and selecting more repositories
[15:50] <Lynoure> halcyonCorsair: hearing of all the trouble it has caused on Gnome, I don't think I'd want it by default..
[15:50] <Dfizzle> like in adept?
[15:50] <flipstar> spiroo: you already edited /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ?
[15:50] <cor-al-gim> Ahoj
[15:51] <Juan__> Dfizzle: yessir. Adept -> Manage Repositories
[15:51] <Juan__> When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?
[15:51] <Dfizzle> ok
[15:51] <spiroo> flipstar: I changed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default.
[15:51] <diego> hi1 can you help me to install compiz ?
[15:52] <Dfizzle> hmmlol, I tried sudo apt-get update and now it works :--D sucks to be linux noob. But its better than windows expert.
[15:52] <halcyonCorsair> ok, and how about getting stuff like dvds to work?
[15:52] <spiroo> flipstar: I have only edited in "<Directory /var/www/>" where it says AllowOverride.
[15:52] <flipstar> spiroo: maybe check the apache log in /var/log/apache
[15:52] <Juan__> diego: K Menu -> System -> Desktop Effects
[15:52] <Juan__> er ok
[15:52] <Lynoure> !dvd
[15:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:53] <Juan__> Dfizzle: I'm pretty new at Kubuntu as well, so we're both learning.
[15:53] <flipstar> spiroo: it's already some time ago since a setup my apache but was a bit more complicated trough ssl and so here
[15:53] <spiroo> flipstar: I have, it only says "[Sun Apr 27 16:40:28 2008] [crit] [client 127.0.0.1] (13)Permission denied: /var/www/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable" :D
[15:54] <flipstar> spiroo: then ensure it's readable :p
[15:54] <spiroo> flipstar: I guess thats my problem :D
[15:54] <spiroo> flipstar: Hmm, how do I do it readable?
[15:54] <halcyonCorsair> shouldn't kaffeine auto install the right stuff for playing dvds or whatever?
[15:54] <okv> One other weird thing happened after upgrading to 8.04. I can't jump to ctrl+alt+F2 or other console windows. It just says "no signal" on monitor when I try that
[15:54] <flipstar> spiroo: <kdesu konqueror /var/www/> and right click>preferences>permissions
[15:55] <spiroo> flipstar: Okay fixed, but now it says: "[Sun Apr 27 16:54:43 2008] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Directory index forbidden by Options directive: /var/www/"
[15:55] <spiroo> lol
[15:55] <spiroo> flipstar: Seems like rewrite module does not work for .htaccess file. I do not have any index file. But thats for a reason.
[15:56] <diego> hi i installed kubuntu yesterady im trying to install compiz but i dont know how can you help me please?
[15:56] <Lynoure> halcyonCorsair: I wish it was that simple, but the licencing involved in playing dvds does not make it so (did you se the factlet ubote said?)
[15:56] <Juan__> diego: K Menu -> System -> Desktop Effects
[15:56] <Juan__> easiest way
[15:56] <flipstar> spiroo: what do you want to access without an index oO btw check the error.log not the connection log ..
[15:56] <diego> thanks
[15:57] <spiroo> flipstar: I am checking the error.log.
[15:57] <flipstar> oh
[15:57] <spiroo> flipstar: Well I have this line: "RewriteRule ^.+(/.*)?$                                                   /www/default.php                              [L]"
[15:57] <halcyonCorsair> Lynoure: i'm reading the page, but i'm wondering because when i was running amd64 it auto installed the dvd stuff with kaffeine when i first tried to play a dvd
[15:58] <spiroo> flipstar: I am point every single request so I can handle it for my framework ;)
[15:58] <Juan__> When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?
[15:58] <Dfizzle> Juan__ I have the same
[15:58] <Dfizzle> or atleast had with 7.10
[15:59] <Juan__> Nice to know I'm not the only one.
[15:59] <Dfizzle> I just didnt use it then >_>
[15:59] <Juan__> Google does not seem to be helping much.
[15:59] <corban> whats is a good alternative to VirtualBox
[15:59] <flipstar> spiroo: my apache kung fu is very limited..try googling the error messages :)
[15:59] <Juan__> If I can't get my pc to go into sleep mode, then Kubuntu is useless to me.
[15:59] <spiroo> flipstar: Woho, I almost get this thing to work now. One problem, now my framework caught localhost/phpmyadmin request. phpmyadmin is an alias and should go before my .htaccess. But it do not. Then I cannot go to localhost. It says permission denied. That was my problem before. You should be able to sort that out.
[16:00] <okv> I have a problem since I upgraded to 8.04. I can't anymore see the console window when I press CTRL+ALT+F1, it just shows "no signal" on monitor like it's trying to use some unsupported resolution or someting. pressing CTRL+ALt+F7 brings it back to X normally though. Any solutions?
[16:00] <spiroo> flipstar: Yes I am googling all the time, but I do not get any great info if I say so. Only get things I already know about :D
[16:00] <halcyonCorsair> Riddell: pin
[16:00] <halcyonCorsair> Riddell: ping
[16:01] <spiroo> flipstar: It is quite funny, my framework get an error message like this: "Controller file does not exist: PhpmyadminController.php (Application warning)" :D
[16:01] <spiroo> flipstar: phpmyadmin should work with aliased
[16:01] <spiroo> *aliases
[16:01] <kicco> okv: checked out vga= parameter in grub con figle?
[16:02] <kicco> ehm.. grub menu.lst file?
[16:02] <okv> kicco: Nope. How do I check it?
[16:02] <kicco> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:02] <diego> is there someone that speaks spanish here?
[16:03] <okv> kicco: The file seems a bit outdates since it still mentions 7.10, although I upgraded to 8.04
[16:04] <diego> i didnt discover how to install compiz
[16:04] <okv> kicco: But anyway I see many options there, recovery modes etc. Can't find VGA anywhere
[16:04] <kicco> okv: tried a grub-update?
[16:04] <spiroo> flipstar: The problem is when I go to root localhost it is trying to make an index of directories because I do not have any index file. The other problem is that I have switched of Indexes in Options directive :D
[16:05] <okv> kicco: No
[16:05] <UzLinux> Hello all
[16:05] <UzLinux> I have some questions for any kubuntu gurus out there
[16:05] <okv> kicco: It doesn't seem to work. I typed "grub-update" in the console, no response
[16:05] <kicco> okv: try. btw vga stuff should be in this form near the end of the file: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=937849ea-8355-444f-86b5-cf2a2824ebe1 ro quiet splash vga=795
[16:06] <neon> how cab i get kbfx to work, i apply the style but nothing happens?
[16:06] <kicco> okv: as root?
[16:06] <flipstar> spiroo: that's the usal behavior without an index file
[16:06] <okv> kicco: yep: sudo: grub-update: command not found
[16:06] <Juan__> I am trying to run wine-doors from terminal and get "ImportError: No module named glade"
[16:06] <flipstar> okv: it's update-grub
[16:06] <Dfizzle> Does anyone know how I can get firefox to default browser? It doesn't work from its options :/
[16:07] <okv> kicco: I see many different options in the menu.lst, but none of them has that vga parameter
[16:07] <kicco> okv: sorry :P
[16:07] <kicco> flipstar is right
[16:07] <AndreSantos> any1 having problems on the sound on 8.04?
[16:07] <flipstar> okv: what you triying to do..?
[16:07] <neon> Dfizzle: go on to the control center on kde components and switch there
[16:07] <okv> flipstar: Ok, update-grub worked, now I have 8.04 mentioned in menu.lst instead of 7.10
[16:07] <Dfizzle> Thanks neon
[16:08] <kicco> okv: great
[16:08] <spiroo> flipstar: I know, but is it possible to make it read my .htaccess file anyway? My .htaccees file points / to my startpage which I have in another place. My /www/default.php is pointing to my template engine which reads right template.
[16:08] <okv> flipstar: What I'm trying to do is to get my console windows working, CTRL+ALT+F1 results now in "no signal", like it's trying to use some non-supported resolution or sometihng
[16:08] <okv> flipstar: However, when I click CTRL+ALT+F7, it comes back to X nicely
[16:08] <UzLinux> How come the network folder wizard doesn't allow me to enter an ssh port higher than 32768?  Is there an update or patch for this?
[16:08] <okv> flipstar: They worked fine until I upgraded to 8.04..
[16:09] <flipstar> okv: that bug should be dissapred with hardy..you have no vga option in menu.lst ?
[16:09] <Juan__> When I try to get Kubuntu to "suspend to disk", all I get is a black screen with a blinking cursor - my HDD's shut down, but my system fans keep working ... and I can't get the machine to come out of the susend mode. Am I doing something wrong?
[16:09] <okv> flipstar: I've no vga-option in any of the options in menu.lst
[16:09] <BluesKaj> okv, i followed the instructions on the Opera site for flashplugins to the letter but youtube still won't play video content
[16:09] <flipstar> spiroo: of corse you can change the default directory ..
[16:10] <kicco> okv+flipstar: it happened to me also and i added the vga parameter
[16:10] <okv> BluesKaj: I tried other sites as well, like liveleak.com and even Adobe's plugin-test-site. It seems the flashplugin just doesn't work with the latest version of Opera that comes up with 8.04
[16:10] <flipstar> kicco: i had to remove it :p
[16:10] <AndreSantos> any1 having problems on the sound on 8.04?
[16:10] <kicco> flipstar: is it a bug?
[16:10] <BluesKaj> yeah , too bad , Opera is a nice browser
[16:10] <Xerxes> BluesKaj...You tried the instruction on this page :
[16:10] <Xerxes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[16:11] <okv> kicco: ok, I have like 8 different options there, half of them are recovery-options, which of them should I add VGA ?
[16:11] <flipstar> kicco: yes..a huge one but it's solved already
[16:11] <spiroo> flipstar: How do you mean?
[16:11] <flipstar> spiroo: you can change the default dir in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Xerxes, yes but the point is does it work in hardy ?
[16:12] <flipstar> spiroo: it will search in the place you enter after DocumentRoot for an index file then
[16:13] <Xerxes> BluesKaj...Uhh...Sorry I am still on Gutsy.So can't check it out.:(
[16:13] <spiroo> flipstar: it shall not search for an index file at all.
[16:13] <spiroo> flipstar: My .htaccess and framework should handle it all by itself.
[16:13] <flipstar> okv: at the end of the kernel line
[16:14] <flipstar> spiroo: sorry don't know any about this
[16:15] <okv> flipstar: I've 8 different kernel lines there
[16:15] <spiroo> flipstar: It is allright :) Thanks for all your help anyway. I am trying to sort it out with google ans some help from apache channel.
[16:15] <flipstar> okv: just choose the first
[16:17] <okv> flipstar: Done. I'll try to reboot if it helps/works
[16:17] <kicco> okv:
[16:17] <kicco> kv: at the end of the kernel line
[16:17] <kicco> [17:16] <flipstar> spiroo: sorry
[16:17] <kicco> ??
[16:18] <spiroo> kicco: What?
[16:18] <flipstar> okv: you have to update grub after that of corse
[16:18] <kicco> okv: excellent howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=kernel+booting+parameters
[16:18] <kicco> flipstar: don't need to
[16:19] <flipstar> kicco: of corse you have to
[16:19] <flipstar> it's essential
[16:20] <kicco> flipstar: tha main change between lilo and grub is that one, u don't need to reload grub avery time because is loaded at run time by grub himself
[16:21] <ubuntu> hi
[16:21] <flipstar> but if you change the menu.lst you have to update grub
[16:21] <martijn81> hi ubuntu
[16:21] <Leeuw> I ticked to 'off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot' , it had a warning that after changing the system it could break things; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find that setting back, where co
[16:21] <ubuntu> can some1 help me
[16:21] <ubuntu> im new w/linex
[16:21] <kicco> flipstar: try
[16:22] <ubuntu> linux*
[16:22] <flipstar> kicco: i did a few times
[16:22] <ismail> imali nyakoy
[16:22] <martijn81> ubuntu: sure, just shoot and maybe someone knows what you are trying to figure out
[16:22] <flipstar> kicco: i installed a new kernel and forgot to update-grub so the old was booted
[16:22] <ismail> nyakoy razbirali bulgarski
[16:22] <Riddell> halcyonCorsair: hi
[16:23] <ubuntu> well, does it support java?
[16:23] <ralph> Hi, a friend has done the 7.10 to 8.04 Kubuntu upgrade on two separate machine in two locations and in both finds KNetwork Manager lists his WAPs but on entering his ESSID and WEP key nothing happens; it doesn't connect.  It worked fine on both machine in 7.10.  Is this a known 8.04 issue?  URL?
[16:23] <ismail> имали нъакоъ
[16:23] <robotgeek> flipstar: well, you know you can boot into new one from the grub command line?
[16:23] <martijn81> ubuntu: there are some java versions in the reopsitory, but i guess you mean sun java, we support that
[16:24] <ismail> булгарски
[16:24] <kicco> flipstar: did the same, grub loads its configuration at runtime
[16:24] <martijn81> ubuntu: try this in konsole: apt-cache search sun
[16:24] <BluesKaj> !ru | ismail
[16:24] <ubotu> ismail: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[16:25] <ubuntu> im trying to play the game runescape, so i dont no wat java it is
[16:25] <Dfizzle> in 8.04, do I need to install ccsm to modify compiz settings?
[16:25] <flipstar> robotgeek: sure you can :)
[16:25] <ismail> уботу ас сам булгарин
[16:25] <ralph> Are the generally wifi problems in 8.04 getting knetworkmanager to take an ESSID and WEP?
[16:26] <okv> flipstar: I tried to add the vga=795 in the end, it screwed up the system totally and wouldn't work after re-booting, just had some cursor blinking on upper left corner afted it booted. Lucklily I had other kernel options in the grub so I managed to load another one
[16:26] <flipstar> kicco: whatever if you change the menu.lst you need to update-grub manually
[16:26] <ismail> мерси
[16:26] <ismail> братушка
[16:26] <okv> flipstar: Weird thing is, when I start the computer it works, ctrl+atl+F2 and others work, since I don't boot directly to X, but after I startx, the CTRL+ALT+F2 and others stop working
[16:27] <ismail> turkish
[16:27] <flipstar> okv: 795 is a little high..try 792 or so
[16:27] <flipstar> 792 is default btw
[16:27] <ubuntu> im gonna try my windows again, see ya guys, and girls
[16:27] <okv> flipstar: I'll try that
[16:27] <kicco> okv: that's weird
[16:27] <okv> Does anyone know why 8.04 messes up the CTRL+ALT+F2 thing?
[16:28] <flipstar> okv: it's a framebuffer issue
[16:28] <okv> I'll try to reboot now with vga=792, brb
[16:28] <arediey> hi all
[16:29] <halcyonCorsair> Riddell: oh crap....what was i going to ask O_O
[16:30] <spiroo> flipstar: You seem to be the right man to ask. Is there any application which works as good as Zend Studio. which mean a god php/css/xhtml editor which can handle large projects with easy.
[16:30] <kicco> flipstar: shit, you're right, my kernel-img.conf loads automatically update-grub :P
[16:31] <ismail> bulgarian irk kanal
[16:31] <halcyonCorsair> Riddell: oh yeah....kaffeine's auto codec installer, it seems to work for libdvdcss on amd64, but not i386, can't find the package, whose department is that?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> !bg | ismail
[16:33] <ubotu> ismail: опитайте #ubuntu-bg за български потребители . try #ubuntu-bg for bulgarian users, and please idle there patiently
[16:33] <will00> anyone know why amarok would be consuming 97.00 in my user% ?
[16:34] <blackflag> ahh, thank you!!!
[16:34] <BluesKaj> !anyone
[16:34] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:34] <okv> Back..
[16:34] <okv> flipstar: 792 was worse than 795.. with 795 I was still able to see it while it was booting, but with 792 it went black screen immediately once it started booting it
[16:35] <TheGentleman> Anyone knows how to upgrade from Kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 using the alternate i386 CD ?  Instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu do not work in my case.
[16:35] <ralph> How does one debug knetworkmanager issues?  What log file does it write to for example?  It sees the WAP but supplying WEP and ESSID doesn't work.  It doesn't connect.
[16:36] <MilitantPotato> Hey all, did a fresh install of Hardy, but my /dev/hda (location of /)has become /dev/sdc It's a PATA drive, not a SATA aswell.  Any idea how I can get the drives in order?  I have 1 PATA (Pri master) and two SATA (channel 2 and 4.)
[16:37] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, try upgrading with adept , click on "Version Upgrade"
[16:37] <ralph> MilitantPotato: don't think you can unless your motherboard supports EDD.  Try `dmesg | grep -i edd'.
[16:38] <Jucato> MilitantPotato: I think the kernel (or something) have all migrated to using sda, no matter what type of drive
[16:38] <gothicd3vil> hi, how can i upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[16:38] <MilitantPotato> Jucato: how does that effect the performance of ATA?
[16:39] <MilitantPotato> ralph: [   22.989989] BIOS EDD facility v0.16 2004-Jun-25, 0 devices found
[16:39] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, I know i can do it that way, but it would take hours....  I have a freshly burnt alternate cd at hand and i find stupid to use precious bandwith in this case
[16:39] <MilitantPotato> gothicd3vil: if you want to keep Ubuntu, just install kubuntu-desktop
[16:39] <Jucato> MilitantPotato: not really afaik
[16:40] <gothicd3vil> and if i want to delete ubuntu?
[16:40] <MilitantPotato> It all seems to be working well, guess I'll adjust :)
[16:40] <BluesKaj> ok TheGentleman, it's your choice , but if your alt cd isn't working ....
[16:40] <gothicd3vil> is that the setup of kubuntu that i download is fu...
[16:41] <okv> Is there any place where I could find out what vga option I should use in the grub menu.lst?
[16:41] <spiroo> Could someone recommend a good editor for php/xhtml/css which can handles large projects?
[16:41] <MilitantPotato> The Gentle
[16:41] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: Does it say command not found?
[16:41] <TheGentleman> It's not the CD itself BluesKaj . It was md5sum checked and verified after K3B burning and it is ok. Only it does not appear as mounted like said in official instructions
[16:41] <TheGentleman> MilitantPotato, yes!
[16:41] <kicco> okv: the url i gave explains all
[16:42] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: Mount the icon on your desktop
[16:42] <MilitantPotato> Then find where it's mounted
[16:42] <okv> kicco: I'll look back if I see the URL
[16:42] <kicco> spiroo: i use ecplise...
[16:42] <okv> kicco: Found it,t hanks
[16:42] <spiroo> kicco: For PHP editting :O ?
[16:43] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: should me /media/cdrom0
[16:43] <MilitantPotato> be*
[16:43] <spiroo> kicco: Eclipse is for C++ and Java?
[16:43] <kicco> okv: there's a link to a fremebuffer howto also, wich should be your problem
[16:43] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: Then in Konsole, type cd /media/cdrom0
[16:43] <MilitantPotato> then run upgrade command without the path
[16:43] <TheGentleman> it is not MilitantPotato: it gets mounted as /media/Kubuntu 8.04 i386  (with spaces)
[16:43] <kicco> spiroo: with php plugin... don't remeber the name
[16:44] <kicco> spiroo: most of time i use vim
[16:44] <spiroo> kicco: Hmm okay, I try it out. Do you know aboyt Zend Studio?
[16:44] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman:  Ok, head to that directory in terminal
[16:44] <ralph> MilitantPotato: was there a "EDD information not available." line too?
[16:45] <kicco> spiroo: i knew i cotst too much for what it does, but i never used it
[16:45] <MilitantPotato> Yes Ralph
[16:45] <TheGentleman> you can't use spaces in terminal command MilitantPotato
[16:45] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: Enter it w/ quotes?
[16:45] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: or type cd /media/Ku (then hit tab)
[16:46] <MilitantPotato> that may work.
[16:46] <TheGentleman> ok, will try that, thanks MilitantPotato
[16:46] <spiroo> kicco: Well, thats a hell of a editor :D Wondering if there is something like that?
[16:46] <ralph> MilitantPotato: ok, that means your BIOS, like the huge majority, doesn't support EDD and that's the only way the BIOS and Linux can agree on the order of block devices.
[16:46] <ralph> MilitantPotato: it causes all sorts of grub install problems.
[16:46] <TheGentleman> Anyway, instructions given at Kubuntu website are misleading and incorrect!
[16:47] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: or, open the CD rom drive with dolphin, and click the "open a terminal" here
[16:47] <MilitantPotato> ralph: would that be why I got a busy box trying to do an upgrade during boot?
[16:48] <warren_> hi
[16:48] <TheGentleman> MilitantPotato, I already tryed issuieng the command cdromupgrade command from dolphin using "Run as Root"
[16:49] <warren_> hardy really rules for the kde desktop (Kde3) but i saw today that a package isn't updated to the latest version and would like to know if something can be done to ask the package upgrade (in the upgrade repositories)? the package concerned is "kmess"; what can i do?
[16:49] <gothicd3vil> which is the different between dapper and kde?
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> gothicd3vil: dapper? thats a ubuntu version
[16:49] <okv> kicco: Weird, 795 and 792 should be fully supported by my graphics card and monitor...
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> kde is a program
[16:49] <ralph> MilitantPotato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/8497
[16:50] <alpaco> hardy heron is not stable at all
[16:50] <warren_> no? :s it's on my pc :)
[16:50] <ralph> MilitantPotato: it could be that grub installed itself with incorrect info leading to it using the wrong drive during booting.
[16:50] <alpaco> when I try to import my bookmarks to firefox3b2 it crashes
[16:50] <gothicd3vil> alpaco but the graphics are the same?
[16:50] <warren_> install firefox2 again
[16:50] <alpaco> hmm
[16:50] <warren_> some things are broken and not really the problem of ubuntu
[16:51] <alpaco> ﻿gothicd3vil: everything is the same
[16:51] <warren_> it's a firefox 3 problem
[16:51] <gothicd3vil> thanks
[16:51] <wolfear> is there a fix somehwere for the pager?..after reboot, it loses all settings and reverts back to 2 desktops
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: are you using compiz?
[16:51] <alpaco> ﻿gothicd3vil: plus you have the Brasero disc burning utility
[16:51] <warren_> Can I do something to ask the update of a package in Hardy?
[16:51] <wolfear> not that I know of. I disabled all desktop effects
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> alpaco: this is kubuntu, not ubuntu
[16:52] <wolfear> I'm running Hardy if that helps any
[16:52] <flipstar> is there a good dj/mixing program ?
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: di you get the number of desktops to 3 or for or whatever?
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: ask in #ubuntustudio
[16:52] <alpaco> ﻿warren_: what I really hate about hardy heron is that firefox3b2 deletes your duplicate bookmarks
[16:53] <alpaco> #firefox
[16:53] <robotgeek> alpaco: why is that a bad thing?
[16:53] <wolfear> nosrednaekim: not sure what you mean. I can set them to any number and it works fine until I reboot (due to stupid freeze bug)
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: ah.... it freezes when you logout?
[16:54] <alpaco> ﻿robotgeek: my bookmarks file is around 10 years old and I have categorized bookmarks in different areas
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> and you no-doubt have an ATI
[16:54] <wolfear> nosrednaekim: no...sorry..the freeze is unrelated
[16:54] <psyco> Anyone know a movie making program??
[16:54] <robotgeek> alpaco: oh, so it does not autotag? Maybe someone should right an extension for it :)
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: when does the freeze occur?
[16:55] <TheGentleman> MilitantPotato, can you please have a look at http://paste-it.net/public/oaf9b1d/ about my "command not found" problem?
[16:55] <wolfear> nosrednaekim: the freeze is unrelated to the pager problem. But they occur randomly. They have been discussed on the Ubuntu forums a lot already.
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: ok... what you have to do is setthe pager how you like, then log out
[16:56] <BluesKaj> wolfear, is hardy freezing at logout ?
[16:56] <wolfear> nosrednaekim: that all..wow. cool
[16:57] <wolfear> Blues: not at logout. they just occur randomly.
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> wolfear: and that should save the settings despite freezes
[16:57] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: try sudo ./cdromupgrade instead
[16:57] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: use sudo ./cdromupgrade
[16:58] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: however, I think you should be doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[16:58] <MilitantPotato> cdromupgrade is a script file, it needs ./ to run
[16:58] <wolfear> nosrednaekim: thanks
[16:58] <BluesKaj> dunno if this will help but ATI users have had a prob with Xorg hanging on logout, here's a fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32
[16:58] <TheGentleman> robotgeek, i followed that page's instructions already and it does not work at all!
[16:59] <TheGentleman> always the same "command not found" error
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: you're a live saver... I was just searching for that
[16:59] <wolfear> Blues: it's not a graphics issue. The freezes are a long standing bug that started appearing under Gutsy and have carried over into Hardy.
[17:00] <Dfizzle> How can I get 3d Cube in 8.10? I installed compizfusion from system->desktop effects
[17:00] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, JoshOvki clued me into that page , so he deserves some of the credit :)
[17:00]  * nosrednaekim hugs JoshOvki and bookmarks it
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ok wolfear , that's a different prob then
[17:01] <okv> ok I've now tried vga=795, vga=792, vga=791.. I still have the problem, and the problem only occurs if I have started X
[17:01] <wolfear> Blues: correct. But thanks
[17:01] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: command not found for the kdesu thing? maybe it is not mounted at /cdrom ?
[17:01] <okv> It's quite depressing to see that Linux usage still seems to need too much expertise to get it functionin properly :(
[17:03] <TheGentleman> robotgeek, correct!  it gets mounted at /media/Kubuntu 8.04 i386  (with spaces !!!!)
[17:03] <flipstar> okv: thats a bug usally it is working..maybe see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/129910
[17:03] <will00> ﻿ey im having an issue compiling mysql iv pasted the error here http://pastebin.com/m19e7a96e
[17:04] <MilitantPotato> BluesKaj: Oh man, you're my hero.  Thank you!
[17:04] <BluesKaj> wolfear, sounds to me like that prob altho random , should be reported https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[17:04]  * BluesKaj blushes :)
[17:04] <spiroo> How do I access a folder with spaces in terminal? When I type it thinks I am separating commands when I type space for the folder name :(
[17:04] <wolfear> BluesKaj: I have not checked lately, but I think it was reported on Launchpad quite some time ago
[17:04] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:05] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: in that case (i dunno why it does that!), try this -> kdesu "/media/Kubuntu\ 8.04\ i386/cdromupgrade"
[17:05] <robotgeek> spiroo: type \<space>
[17:05] <spiroo> okay thanks :)
[17:05] <BluesKaj> spiroo, try quotes around the "name_of_the_folder"
[17:06] <spiroo> works too :) Thank you guys
[17:06] <TheGentleman> I did robotgeek !!! and it says "tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Impossibile open: Nessun file o directory
[17:06] <TheGentleman> "
[17:06] <flipstar> spiroo: btw you can use tab there as well
[17:06] <okv> flipstar: Thanks, I see now that it's a bug with Hardy
[17:06] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: thanks, I did not know that
[17:06] <TheGentleman> no way to make it work
[17:07] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: is this a live cd or an alternate cd?
[17:07] <TheGentleman> alternate of course
[17:07] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, not sure that it works everytime
[17:07] <flipstar> okv: i already had it with gutsy..but hardy solved it..seems very individual
[17:09] <TheGentleman> and before anyone asks, the iso file was md5sum checked and a verify was performed on the CD after K3b burning
[17:09] <alpaco> what virtualizers are available for hardy?
[17:09] <robotgeek> TheGentleman: :)
[17:09] <Dragnslcr> robotgeek- I had the same problem trying to run the upgrade off the DVD. I'd get "Command not found" even though I could see that /cdrom/cdromupgrade existed
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> alpaco: virtualbox, kvm, qemu
[17:10] <Dragnslcr> Eventually I managed to get "Permission denied" errors instead, even when trying to run it with kdesu
[17:10] <robotgeek> Dragnslcr: how did you solve?
[17:11] <flipstar> Dragnslcr: that might coused becorse the file isn't executeable..?
[17:11] <alpaco> ﻿nosrednaekim: i don't see any of them in the repos
[17:11] <alpaco> ﻿nosrednaekim: my universe repo is enabled
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> !info virtualbox
[17:12] <ubotu> Package virtualbox does not exist in hardy
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> !VirtualBox
[17:12] <ubotu> virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[17:12] <Dfizzle> !info compiz
[17:12] <ubotu> compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.7.4-0ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 33 kB, installed size 68 kB
[17:12] <TheGentleman> it looks like an aexecutable from here: -r-xr-xr-x 1 franz root    942 2008-04-22 08:07 cdromupgrade
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> !info VirtualBox
[17:15] <okv> flipstar: Yep. That's ok, though, as I now tested this yakuake which someone recommended me few days ago. It'll replace the tty's nicely for me
[17:16] <flipstar> okv: did you had this trouble before installing yakuake ?
[17:16] <okv> flipstar: I installed yakuake a minute ago
[17:16] <robotgeek> i've begin to like konsole. i am moving from rxvt-unicode
[17:16] <Dragnslcr> flipstar- no, it was definitely executable
[17:17] <Dragnslcr> robotgeek- I eventually gave up and ran the upgrade through Adept instead
[17:17] <okv> flipstar: Today earlier I upgraded to 8.04 and the "no signal" problem started immediately after
[17:17] <robotgeek> Dragnslcr: ah okay.
[17:17] <okv> flipstar: But now as I don't seem to find any way to fix it, although I've tried some solutions that I found here and online, I just decided to install this "yakuake" which I have heard about before, which is handy for those who use console alot
[17:18] <TheGentleman> robotgeek, Dragnslcr MilitantPotato  I can't understand if my problem is a bug in the upgrade or an incorrect mount of the CD in some way
[17:18] <Dragnslcr> robotgeek- I was just trying to be nice and save the servers a little bandwidth, since I had already gotten the DVD through the torrent anyway
[17:18] <MilitantPotato> TheGentleman: unmount the cdrom, then mount it to a folder w/o spaces
[17:18] <flipstar> okv: it's still bad to have no tty's ..maybe try some of the tips in the launchpad thread
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> TheGentleman- you may try asking in the forums. I had the same problem you did, and I don't know of anyone that's used the disc to upgrade
[17:19] <flipstar> Dragnslcr: you probably could app the dvd to the sources
[17:19] <flipstar> *add
[17:19] <Fujisan> help
[17:19] <amerigo> ! italian
[17:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:19] <robotgeek> Dragnslcr: i was dumb enough to try upgrading with the ubuntu alternate cd. needless to say, it did not work!
[17:19] <Fujisan> !dutch
[17:19] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[17:19] <Dragnslcr> flipstar- yeah, but that would be too much effort to bother
[17:19] <Fujisan> !vista
[17:19] <ubotu> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[17:20] <Fujisan> :)
[17:20] <okv> flipstar: I tried some of them, that modprobe-thing which seemed to help some others, but it didn't help here
[17:20] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[17:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[17:20] <TheGentleman> I will ask in the forums....   I wouldn't like to mess up my Kubuntu with an incorrect upgrade procedure
[17:20] <flipstar> okv: hm as i said this bug seems to be very individual
[17:21] <flipstar> Dragnslcr: adding a cd/dvd is really easy in adept
[17:21] <okv> flipstar: yep, hopefully it'll be fixed in some update
[17:21] <flipstar> the bug is already marked as fixxed ..
[17:22] <liuz> 大家好~
[17:25] <kaminix> !bug 223153
[17:25] <kaminix> Hmm...
[17:25] <kaminix> Anyone willing to have a look? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/223153
[17:25] <TheGentleman> flipstar: adept refuses to add the cd as a repository:  Errore nella scansione del CD E:Failed to mount the cdrom.
[17:26] <flipstar> TheGentleman: maybe try to mount it on /cdrom and try again
[17:26] <Jucato> is the CD an Alternate Install CD?
[17:27] <okv> flipstar: Could X video driver cause the problem? The tty
[17:27] <okv> flipstar: the tty's work fine all the way until I start startx, after that they just don't work, even when I close x
[17:28] <flipstar> okv: yes..this is also the last entry in the bug report
[17:29] <TheGentleman> flipster: now this is really strange! i can't even unmount the CD. It says it is used by Konqueror (i do not open Konqueror since months....)
[17:29] <TheGentleman>                    USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
[17:29] <TheGentleman>                      franz      6707 ..c.. krusader
[17:30] <TheGentleman> ooooops sorry!  misread Konqueror for Krusader!!!!!
[17:30] <TheGentleman> by the way....  krusader is a far better file manager than konqueror
[17:33] <Dfizzle> I'm having problems enabling compiz on 8.04.. I installed compiz through system->desktop effects. Then installed compizconfig-manager, then typed on konsole compiz --replace, but I am not having the effects :| Can anyone help
[17:35] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, you around ?
[17:39] <will00> how would i go about setting up kubuntu so that i could access my movies over the network from my ps3?
[17:42] <ABEY> how to be an ubuntu ambassador?
[17:44] <robotgeek> will00: how do you access the files on the ps3 now?
[17:46] <will00> so far i cant
[17:46] <will00> iv got the samba server installed now, so im gonna go check if that did anything
[17:47] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[17:48] <contrast83> Anyone know of a way to restore a partition table without formatting the drive it's on? The power went out when I was repartitioning my HD and know I'm kind of at a brick wall.
[17:49] <kubuntu> how do i play dvd on kubuntu 8.04
[17:49] <Leeuw> is there a way to reset kubuntu to its 'factory settings" ?   (ie reinitialise network, hardware, services etc)
[17:49] <contrast83> kubuntu: KMenu -> System -> Konsole -> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:49] <arrrghhh> kubuntu, get kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:49] <BluesKaj> kubuntu, make sure you have libdvdcss2 installed
[17:50] <contrast83> BluesKaj: I thought you didn't need that anymore with Hardy?
[17:50] <robotgeek> !medibuntu
[17:50] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[17:50] <flipstar> only if it's css protected i think
[17:50] <kubuntu> i have restricted extraa but where do i get  libdvdcss2
[17:50] <contrast83> kubuntu: ^
[17:50] <will00> robotgeek: so far i cant, so i dont know how to get that working
[17:50] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: i am guessing that libdvdcss2 is only available in medibuntu, (see also kubuntu )
[17:51] <BluesKaj> contrast83, not aware of that , I thought it was still required
[17:51] <robotgeek> will00: how do you access it now, say from linux?
[17:51] <contrast83> Leeuw: Not that I'm aware of, without a clean reinstall at least. I'd recommend making a seperate partition for /home if that's the route you decide to take, so next time all your personal files and settings will still be in place.
[17:51] <will00> oh i go /media/Movies
[17:51] <arrrghhh> hey so i got x11vnc running at startup on my kubuntu install but i can't remember how i did it... it's not in ~/.kde/Autostart, /etc/init.d, /etc/rc.local, any of the /etc/rc.*d files... i don't remember how i added it to the startup now!
[17:51] <vale> aca puedo hacer preguntas?
[17:51] <will00> its /dev/sdc1 mounted on /media/Movies
[17:51] <robotgeek> will00: you are running linux on your ps3?
[17:51] <will00> no
[17:51] <BluesKaj> kubuntu, Open adept package manager, On the menu of that screen you will want to click on Adept -> Manage Repositories, click the kubuntu software tab, check all the boxes "X",same goes for the third party software tab. Close,and then in the terminal "sudo apt-get update".Now you have more sources for applications other than the defaults that came with Kubuntu.
[17:51] <contrast83> arrrghhh: /usr/share/autostart?
[17:52] <contrast83> arrrghhh: And you are closing it before you log out, right?
[17:52] <Jucato> !autostart
[17:52] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html
[17:52] <contrast83> arrrghhh: And just FYI, /etc/init.d/ only contains scripts for when your computer's booting up and shutting down, not for when you log in. ;-)
[17:52] <arrrghhh> ah good to know
[17:53] <arrrghhh> i was just checking places i thought it could be started..
[17:53] <Leeuw> contrast83: I have a seperate home, also a separate usr; will that effect in also having all my extra programs still there ?   And do I have to do anything special except for mounting the partition as home again (and usr if it' s possible) and not format it ?
[17:53] <arrrghhh> and it's not in /usr/share/autostart...
[17:53] <robotgeek> gotta go now, later. (/away 's)
[17:53] <Jucato> arrrghhh: if you left it open when you logged out, it will be restarted when you login
[17:54] <contrast83> Leeuw: Well, I'd recommend formatting /usr when you reinstall, just to make sure you clean out whatever's causing you problems.
[17:54] <arrrghhh> i have it create a fresh desktop every time tho
[17:54] <paran> contrast83: you can use the package "gpart" to search your devices for filesystems and guess what the partition table should be
[17:54] <arrrghhh> i don't have it restore programs by default
[17:54] <contrast83> paran: Awesome, thanks a lot... I was wondering if gparted would do it.
[17:55] <arrrghhh> "start with empty session" is what i have it set to
[17:55] <paran> contrast83: not gparted, this is another program
[17:55] <Leeuw> contrast83: that makes sense, but would make for a lot of hassle...  but I could live with that..   Another question: if I give same user and same password at install, will the original home-folder still beaccessible by that user, or will it be a 'user1' added to original 'user' (like windoze) ?
[17:55] <contrast83> paran: Ahh, ok... Installable from the live CD?
[17:56] <contrast83> Leeuw: Still accessible... Are you familiar with apt-get dselect-upgrade?
[17:56] <paran> contrast83: it is probably not on there, but as long as you have network you can just apt-get install it
[17:56] <Leeuw> contrast83: also, if all settings from home are still there, couldn' t the problem be in there ?
[17:56] <contrast83> paran: Right... Sweet, thanks.
[17:56] <arrrghhh> hrm seems i can't continue troubleshooting now... thanks tho i'll use that webpage for reference
[17:56] <Leeuw> contrast83: not familiar
[17:57] <Leeuw> contrast83: I installed a fresh hardy
[17:57] <contrast83> Leeuw: Possibly. What exactly is the problem?
[17:57] <Leeuw> let me copy the specified question that describes it, just a minut
[17:57] <Leeuw> contrast83: this is it: I ticked to 'off'  some setting in KDE that said something like 'scan KDE at boot' , it had a warning that after changing the system it could break things; I forogot about it, did a lot of tweaking, and then the troubles began; missing start-menu (xcuse win-terminology), and trouble with IRC on Kopete, among other stufff; sys seeems right now again, but kopete keeps crashing X on initiating an  IRC-channel;...   I can' t find tha
[17:58] <Leeuw> contrast83: I don' tknow if it IS related to that particular setting, could be something else, just my strongest hunch
[17:59] <contrast83> Leeuw: Try moving ~/.kde to ~/kde, log out and in, and see if the problems persist. That'll reset the settings for KDE (and *all* KDE programs) to the defaults.
[17:59] <Leeuw> contrast83: I googled for it aand asked several times here, no solution, that's why I thought reset and get it over with
[17:59] <contrast83> Leeuw: I'm pretty sure that would fix it.
[18:00] <BluesKaj> Leeuw, you can start with , sudo dpkg --configure -a to see what pops up if anything
[18:00] <contrast83> Leeuw: If there are any KDE programs whose configs you're confident are okay, you can just copy them back into ~/.kde/share/config (rc files) and ~/.kde/share/apps (program folders)
[18:00] <Leeuw> contrast83: That is a GREAT suggestion, I will try that; eh, sudo dpkg --conf etc does what ?
[18:01] <contrast83> BluesKaj: How would a setting he changed in KDE affect package management? -_~
[18:01] <Leeuw> BluesKaj: ﻿h, sudo dpkg --conf etc does what ?
[18:01] <BluesKaj> cleans up hanging dependencies
[18:02] <contrast83> Leeuw: That's just a lower-level form of apt-get install -f for when that fails. It basically tries to resolve any issues with broken packages and dependencies, but I don't know what that would have to do with your problem.
[18:02] <Leeuw> BluesKaj: that should fix stuff too.. will try both
[18:03] <BluesKaj> well, if he was installing updated pkgs with the cd or the net install
[18:03] <contrast83> Dselect Magic Trick for when you have to reinstall (requires a seperate home partition): 1) before reinstall: /home/leeuwdpkg --get-selections > ~/installed-packages 2) after reinstall: dpkg --set-selections < /home/leeuw/installed-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[18:03] <contrast83> Run the ones in (2) as root (sudo su) - sudo alone doesn't work with redirects (<, >)
[18:04] <contrast83> apt-get dselect-upgrade is quite a gem. Seems not many people know about it, sadly.
[18:05] <contrast83> Synaptic actually provides somewhat of a frontend for it - it can save the package states to a file (as in step 1), then read the markings from the file and you can apply them from there (as in step 2)
[18:07] <contrast83> Well I'm off to fix my friend's computer before she kills me. Thanks again, paran
[18:07] <contrast83> Peace, y'all.
[18:08] <Leeuw> contrast83: BluesKaj will try first the 'reset, if that doesn' t do it the dpkg thing (might do that anyway, couldn' t hurt right ?), and see what gives...   Thanx for advice, have to go in a minute, will try in a couple of hours and let you know if still there, thanx !
[18:09] <BluesKaj> ok Leeuw, good luck !
[18:09] <Leeuw> BluesKaj: :-D
[18:11] <Dfizzle> I just took nvidias newest drivers in use, but now I can't change my resolution bigger than 1024x768 o_o help >_>
[18:11] <Dfizzle> ..atleast compiz works >_>
[18:13] <martijn81> Dfizzle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:14] <Dfizzle> martijn81: what here :-d
[18:14] <Berzerker> can hardy read HFS OTB?
[18:15] <Berzerker> ah, apparently it can
[18:15] <nonewmsgs> with the new "/home is safe" feature i can just install hardy to the same partition gutsy is on and it's smart enough to replace all the / directories but leave /home alone?
[18:16] <Berzerker> how would I have other volumes shown on the desktop?
[18:18] <abey> I-)
[18:18] <Berzerker> anyone?
[18:18] <flipstar> !icons | Berzerker
[18:18] <ubotu> Berzerker: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[18:18] <psyco> Hye, where do I get mp3 codec??
[18:18] <Dfizzle> Anyone else having resolution problems with new nvidia drivers?
[18:19] <psyco> !mp3
[18:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:19] <sigma_1234> i can't get my refresh rate to stay at 75 hertz
[18:19] <dontpanic> Are there any known issues with kubuntu 8.04 w/ kde4?
[18:20] <Berzerker> flipstar: doesn't show about volumes (I'm on KDE)
[18:20] <Berzerker> only trash
[18:20] <Black_Monkey> hi, I've suddenly got no sound (even after reboots) - checking /proc/asound/modules shows snd_hda_intel, when I've got an nvidia integrated sound card - could this be the problem?
[18:21] <Black_Monkey> I'm fairly sure I had sound just after upgrading to hardy, but now none :/
[18:21] <sigma_1234> if you logout with nvidea drivers from kde 4 the screen just goes blank
[18:22] <Berzerker> sigma_1234: probably why KDE4 hasn't been released yet
[18:23] <sigma_1234> so true! at least it will be fixed in kde 4.1
[18:23] <flipstar> Black_Monkey: seems to be an bug since much people report this see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/200338
[18:24] <Black_Monkey> ah, thanks
[18:25] <Berzerker> Kubuntu is officially awesome.
[18:25] <Berzerker> My eSATA ExpressCard adapter works out of the box.
[18:25] <Berzerker> How amazing is that.
[18:25] <psyco> lmao gj
[18:25] <psyco> its good to make stuff official
[18:25] <dfizzle> how can I edit some text file without x server? (yes,.. I messed up something ;D)
[18:26] <Berzerker> It would be even more awesome if I could get the mounted volumes to show up on the desktop
[18:26] <flipstar> dfizzle: nano for e.g
[18:26] <flipstar> how can i enable this icon ? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Green+Round+KMenu+Button?content=51583
[18:26] <nhnFreespirit> is there an easy and safe way to roll bak from hardy to gutsy? on y laptop, hardy is unusable as it hard freezes every 10-20 minutes. Gutsy ran perfetly
[18:27] <flipstar> nhnFreespirit: nope you can't downgrade
[18:27] <|Torg|> can someone help me in determineg why my boxes show differing ammounts of memory (free, top etc). two systems have 4G, the os reports 2.5G on one and 3G on another
[18:27] <nhnFreespirit> flipstar: I have tried pretty muh everything, and it still hangs
[18:27] <nhnFreespirit> its ompletely unusable .-(
[18:28] <nhnFreespirit> completely*
[18:29] <Berzerker> does Desktop Effects work properly in Kubuntu?
[18:29] <Berzerker> or will I need to manually install compiz
[18:32] <emilsedgh> Berzerker: in 8.04 it works i think.
[18:33] <Berzerker> I installed it from the window, and did extra effects, but nothing happened
[18:33] <jmichaelx> anyone else experiencing weird problems with amarok in hardy? for me, it keeps 'updating the collection' over and over, and lists every track twice. any suggestions?
[18:33] <jmichaelx> berzerker, did you restart X?
[18:33] <Berzerker> ah
[18:33] <Berzerker> no
[18:33] <Berzerker> brb
[18:35] <Jahooty> does anyonek now anything about the Atheros AR5007 wireless device?  i'm having troubles getting it to work in linux
[18:35] <Berzerker> still nothing
[18:35] <kubuntu> how do i permananty mount an ntfs drive when the device node changes everytime i boot
[18:37] <kubuntu> can someone help me with mounting an ntfs drive
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> !ntfs
[18:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[18:41] <|Torg|> can someone help me in determineg why my boxes show differing ammounts of memory (free, top etc). two systems have 4G, the os reports 2.5G on one and 3G on another
[18:44] <dewitt> I installed kubuntu 8.04 now i can't get video on line. what can i install to make this happen
[18:45] <nosrednaekim> |Torg|: #1... it could be a 32 os, and second.... the BIOS could be limiting it
[18:45] <nosrednaekim> *32 bit
[18:45] <nosrednaekim> dewitt: such as flash?
[18:46] <dewitt> yes
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> !flash'
[18:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash' - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> !flash
[18:46] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:46] <Berzerker> anyone know of a GUI Synaptics touchpad manager?
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> qsynaptics
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> !info qsynaptics
[18:46] <ubotu> Package qsynaptics does not exist in hardy
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> !info qsynaptic
[18:46] <ubotu> Package qsynaptic does not exist in hardy
[18:46] <Berzerker> E: Package qsynaptics has no installation candidate
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> hum... maybe not :P
[18:47] <jmichaelx> anyone else experiencing weird problems with amarok in hardy? for me, it keeps 'updating the collection' over and over, and lists every track twice. any suggestions?
[18:47] <Berzerker> gsynaptics installes, but it's for gnome
[18:47] <Berzerker> installs*
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> Berzerker: yeah... gsynaptics should work
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: yeah... erase your .kde/share/apps/amarok
[18:47] <nosrednaekim> course.. that will delete your playlists, etc
[18:48] <Berzerker> nice
[18:48] <Berzerker> it worked
[18:48] <Berzerker> how I just need to get this nvidia driver working
[18:48] <Berzerker> how do I tell if I'm using it or not, and how can I switch to it if I'm not.
[18:48] <nosrednaekim> Berzerker: use the restricted hardware manager
[18:48] <nosrednaekim> under system
[18:49] <jmichaelx> nosrednaekim: it'll probably erase all the podcasts i subscribe to as well, huh?
[18:50] <linuxguymarshall> I just upgraded to 8.04 and now I cant use adept. I know what I need to do but I forgot the exact command. I think it is something like : "sudo apt-get dkpg --configure -a" but i'm not sure
[18:50] <babeck> Does anyone know of a way to change the text color for the input area of the twitter plasmoid?
[18:50] <nosrednaekim> jmichaelx: yeah.. probably
[18:50] <jmichaelx> linuxguymarshall: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:50] <nosrednaekim> !aptfix
[18:50] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:51] <linuxguymarshall> jmichaelx: I get this feed back: "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"
[18:52] <jmichaelx> linuxguymarshall: enter the command that the bot gave you
[18:52] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: I deleted the .kde/share/apps/amarok folder, and still have the same problem...
[18:53] <nosrednaekim> did you report a bug?
[18:53] <Black_Monkey> no, only just noticed it
[18:53] <Berzerker> so how would I use the nvidia driver
[18:54] <nosrednaekim> !nvidia
[18:54] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:54] <jmichaelx> Black_Monkey: you must be having the same problem i am having
[18:54] <Black_Monkey> yeah
[18:55] <Black_Monkey> and also, as I said earlier, I'm not getting any sound... and it looks like the bug report flipstar posted is only for older kernels...
[18:57] <jmichaelx> i am not going to delete /.kde/share/apps/amarok. it isn't worth it to have to redo everything. surely a fixed amarok will come down the line soon.
[18:58] <xenol> hello, plz how can i stop the init script from starting at machine boot up?
[18:59] <jmichaelx> i may be mistaken, but it seems to me that the amarok i have installed came down from medibuntu, which i found odd
[19:00] <p_quarles> xenol, that is a very strange question -- why do you want to do that?
[19:00] <flipstar> (how) can i change the kmenu background ?
[19:01] <p_quarles> flipstar, you can find out by running 'apt-cache policy amarok'
[19:01] <flipstar> rly ?
[19:01] <Berzerker> how can I install beryl on hardy?
[19:02] <p_quarles> flipstar, sorry, typed your name by mistake
[19:02] <flipstar> np :)
[19:02] <xenol> p_quarles: cause i want to have them under control
[19:02] <p_quarles> was meant for jmichaelx
[19:02] <SlimeyPete> Berzerker: why beryl? Beryl's been dead for months
[19:02] <Berzerker> I remember it worked better than compiz
[19:02] <Berzerker> and compiz is shotty on 8.04 now.
[19:03] <SlimeyPete> Berzerker: compiz is also dead. Compiz-fusion is default on hardy and it is the offspring of beryl and compiz.
[19:03] <ejupin> When I start kde4 i get a black screen, however I can hear sound so it is starting. I must a wrong setting?
[19:03] <jmichaelx> yes, it appears that amarok came from medibuntu... i wonder if downgrading to the actual canonical package would fix things
[19:03] <jhutchins> SlimeyPete: actually, according to the web site, Compiz is not dead.
[19:03] <Berzerker> SlimeyPete: what's what I meant.
[19:03] <Berzerker> that's*
[19:03] <jmichaelx> sometimes medibuntu screws things up
[19:03] <Berzerker> I just called it compiz for short.
[19:05] <BluesKaj> hmm I have an app installed , followed the instructions for it to decode the inputfile as described the tutorial , but the app doesn't recognize the input file ...it worked ok on gutsy
[19:05] <martijn81> how many users are using kde4 already?
[19:06] <martijn81> can't we organize a poll for this somewhere?
[19:07] <TimS> Odd. I had Firefox 2 and 3 installed, when I upgraded to hardy everything was fine, till I ran firefox 2, it update to 3. Since then, I cant use flash anymore
[19:09] <TimS> Ah, no wories, removed firefox and firefox-2, now I just have firefox 3 and it works fine =]
[19:10] <Fujisan> S=)
[19:10] <Fujisan> free
[19:10] <Fujisan> software
[19:14] <gon_> weather
[19:14] <gon_> !weather
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <Fujisan> !Seveas
[19:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seveas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:14] <gbrgvs> cannot connect to wireless network; message: "wireless radio off"
[19:14] <flipstar> that's wired it says i should put a picture in $KDEHOME/share/apps/kicker/pics but this dir doesn't exist
[19:16] <gbrgvs> cannot connect to wireless network; message: "wireless radio off"
[19:17] <khaleel5000> hello, I have a dell xps M1530, I have heard from a friend that Ubuntu has great support for dell XPS [I am already a linux user-I like perfer KDE] so I am just verifying,By getting kubuntu  will I get the same stuff as in ubuntu but my instead of gnome, i will get kde ?
[19:17] <flipstar> exact
[19:17] <harley> that's right khaleel
[19:22] <dek> any idea what package I need to install to get man pages for thread functions, like pthread_create?
[19:24] <rooger> hello?
[19:25] <harley> hi
[19:25] <rooger> having a prob installing
[19:25] <harley> what's the prob?
[19:25] <khaleel5000> flipstar: harley Many many thanks guys
[19:26] <rooger> wont partition
[19:26] <rooger> on an ibook
[19:26] <harley> oooh, soz I can't  help
[19:26]  * rooger tried powerpc room but there no help
[19:26] <martijn81> rooger: watch out with that, is it an intel?
[19:26] <rooger> no
[19:26] <martijn81> ok, then you are fine :)
[19:27] <rooger> no im not fine and im beginning to wonder if its worth all this hassle
[19:27] <rooger> i keep hearing about how great it is but i cant get it to install
[19:28] <martijn81> rooger: how is your partition table looking now?
[19:29] <rooger> im trying to duel boot with mac x, got 4 partitions 1 with over 10 gigs of space but gparted says my free space is unavailable
[19:29] <psyco> Anyone know movie making software for kubunut?
[19:30] <psyco> kubuntu*
[19:30] <TheCobra> Hi there
[19:30] <dwidmann> hihihi
[19:30] <TheCobra> can somebody help me
[19:30] <psyco> howdy
[19:30] <psyco> we might
[19:30] <TheCobra> just installed Kubuntu 8.04
[19:30] <anabain> why can't I upgrade mu kubuntu since two or three days ago?
[19:30] <TheCobra> but i'm in a resolution of 800x600 :s
[19:31] <dwidmann> anabain: the servers are under *very* heavy load
[19:31] <jarle> is it possible to upgrade a 32 bit system to a 64 bit system just using apt-get or would that require a re-install?
[19:31] <dwidmann> jarle: reinstall
[19:31] <anabain> ok dwidmann
[19:32] <jarle> dwidmann: and not even being able to use the upgrade function on the CD?
[19:32] <dwidmann> jarle: going from 32-bit to 64-bit requires a reinstall, period.
[19:33] <Jack111> hi can anybody help me? i dont get skype installed, complaints about broken package
[19:34] <martijn81> rooger: then you need to shrink another partition to make some space for a new one
[19:34] <dwidmann> Jack111: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[19:34] <martijn81> rooger: you can have four primary partitions
[19:35] <rooger> but the largest of the others is only 628 mb!
[19:35] <rooger> lol
[19:35] <Jack111> dwidmann: yep, that cleans it, but i still cannot install skype afterwards
[19:35] <martijn81> rooger: then you have to shrink a bigger one
[19:36] <rooger> ok, now how do i do that/
[19:36] <rooger> ?
[19:36] <dwidmann> Jack111: what complaint does apt/dpkg make about it?
[19:36] <martijn81> rooger: on which can miss like 15GB, 5 for home, 10 for root and the rest
[19:36] <rooger> only have 10+ free
[19:36] <martijn81> give me a picture of gparted and i'll tell you
[19:37] <dwidmann> rooger: if you've got spare cash hard drives are pretty cheap - could be worth the investment
[19:37] <martijn81> imageshack can help you with an picture
[19:37] <rooger> ill bbl and tell ya if it worked martin thanx
[19:38] <Ketrel> how can I edit an enviornmental variable permanantly (and not using bashrc or /etc/profile)?
[19:38] <dwidmann> Ketrel: I'd use /etc/environment, but that's just me
[19:39] <Jack111> dwidmann: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8391/ if you could look at at for a sec, thx
[19:40] <martijn81> ok
[19:40] <talavis> has there been any patches added to konqueror in the kde3 release?
[19:40] <dwidmann> Jack111: are you installing from a repository?? Looks like a packaging messup ... Might be *easier* to install using the *.deb from the Skype website.
[19:40] <martijn81> dwidmann: he is on an ibook, an laptop....
[19:41] <Jack111> dwidmann: yes, i added one to the sources.list..
[19:41] <Ketrel> dwidmann: trying that now
[19:41] <dwidmann> Jack111: that or  there are two different versions, Is skype-common and skype the same version?
[19:41] <dwidmann> martijn81: I presume that would make it non-compatible with other laptop hard drives? Or would it?
[19:42] <Jack111> dwidmann: apt-get shows me them as different ones, but only skype common doesnt work for me..so i installed the other one which triggered the complaint, i now did autoremove
[19:42] <dwidmann> martijn81: If it's IDE or SATA could get a decent one off of newegg for cheap
[19:42] <dwidmann> Jack111: I'd try removing both of them and then trying to install skype
[19:44] <Jack111> dwidmann: it says now same version is available in a software channel you are recommended to use that version
[19:44] <Ketrel> Do I need to reboot or restart X for that to take effect dwidmann, or does it happen instantly?
[19:44] <dwidmann> Ketrel: well, I'd try restarting X and see if that does it, if not rebooting definitely will.
[19:44] <dwidmann> Jack111: Hmm?
[19:46] <Jack111> dwidmann: i downloaded the deb, that i got that complaint but it seems install now
[19:46] <dwidmann> Jack111: so has it install okay?
[19:47] <DarkShinigami> With Virtual Box, how do I use one of the OSs as my "foundation"?
[19:48] <DarkShinigami> Foundation - the basis for which is ground zero of a new OS install
[19:48] <Ketrel> Unrelated question, is there any way to get to a pure console?
[19:49] <Ketrel> I tried choosing Console Login from the login screen, but X just seems to restart.
[19:49] <DarkShinigami> CTRL+ALT+[F1-F6]
[19:49] <Jack111> dwidmann: still setting up
[19:49] <fdoving> DarkShinigami: copy the virtual disk-file?
[19:50] <DarkShinigami> fdoving: I have an OS just the way I want it for fresh installs. I want to keep duplicating this install if necessary.
[19:50] <Ketrel> DarkShinigami was that at me?
[19:51] <DarkShinigami> Ketrel: Yes
[19:51] <Ketrel> Because pressing that just gives me a blank screen
[19:51] <Ketrel> And I can't get back to KDM
[19:51] <DarkShinigami> Ketrel: You should be asked for login. If you want to return to a GUI, use [F7-F12]
[19:52] <dwidmann> Ketrel: and if it doesn't seem to want to go back to kdm, you could try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[19:52] <Ketrel> ctrl+alt+f9 brings me back to KDM, and I couldn't use the sudo command because I'm NOT getting a console, just a blank screen
[19:52] <DarkShinigami> dwidmann: That won't work if it's just a blank screen. He's not getting a logon screen.
[19:53] <dwidmann> DarkShinigami: not even on vt1-6? Ouch, well that just sucks to be Ketrel :(
[19:53] <flipstar> Ketrel: maybe removing the vga=xxx line in menu.lst will get you the tty's back
[19:53] <DarkShinigami> Well, yeah, but what can you do? Something seems to be off with video settings.
[19:55] <DarkShinigami> I recall when CLI was huge, block text. It was like being zoomed into CLI's top left corner.
[19:55] <Ketrel> flipstar, I have not vga line
[19:55] <DarkShinigami> Correction, recall when MY CLI ...
[19:56] <Ketrel> So there's no way I can get to a console then?
[19:56] <DarkShinigami> If you are in GUI, why not use Konsole?
[19:56] <DarkShinigami> I use Yakuake, but it's still CLI
[19:57] <flipstar> Ketrel: i know this must sound wired but maybe adding a vga=xxx line might help
[19:57] <DarkShinigami> Well, time to go. Hope to return later. Thank you fdoving for the help
[19:58] <flipstar> Ketrel: here are more tips: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910
[19:59] <okv> Ketrel: I have the same problem
[20:00] <okv> Ketrel: The problem started when I upgraded to 8.04.. I've tried everything but haven't managed to fix it yet
[20:01] <okv> Ketrel: The problem seems to be somehow related to X, since I don't boot directly to X and the consoles work nicely after I boot. However, when I start x with "startx" command, all consoles stop working and I get blank screen and "no signal" on screen whenever I switch to CTRL+ALT+F1 or any other
[20:02] <Ketrel> okv, I'm going to assume it's a bug then, is it reported already?
[20:02] <flipstar> okv: i guess you didn't edited /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer ?
[20:02] <okv> Ketrel: It's old bug that has been in older versions but has been reported to be "fixed" now, but it seems it's not fixed in many machines
[20:03] <Ketrel> so they're ignoring it then, or it just has to be reopened?
[20:03] <okv> Ketrel: Some people reported that they have got it fixed when new version came out, for me it was opposite. It worked perfectly always before, but since I upgraded to 8.04 it stopped working
[20:03] <flipstar> it worked some time with this workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910/comments/277 but then it was fixed for me
[20:04] <okv> flipstar: I didn't edit those, was that also in that page?
[20:04] <okv> flipstar: I think the problem is different though, because they work perfectly after I boot, only after I start x they stop working
[20:05] <flipstar> i had the same once
[20:06] <Ketrel> okv if that's the case, how could I get X not to start automatically?
[20:06] <dwidmann> okv: Ketrel what video cards & associated drivers do you use (I'm curious)
[20:07] <Ketrel> nvidia geforce go 6600 (or 6800, I forget) and whatever the most recent nvidia driver in Hardy is
[20:08] <rooger> ok am back :)
[20:09] <dwidmann> Ketrel: I've heard the mobile nvidia cards are a bit flakey when compared to their desktop brethren
[20:09] <dwidmann> Ketrel: though, maybe using nvidia-glx instead of nvidia-glx-new would help?
[20:10] <okv> Ketrel: I can't remember. I googled for it before, it was by simlpy editing some file to prevent it from loading x automatically on boot.
[20:10] <dwidmann> Ketrel: (nvidia-glx is a somewhat old snapshot comparitively speaking, but if it works better it could be worthwhile)
[20:10] <okv> Ketrel: Maybe some other here remembers/knows how to make the system to boot without loading x automatically
[20:11] <okv> dwidmann: I have Intel 865VG or something like that, integrated graphics
[20:11] <dwidmann> okv: Ketrel: I'd probably stop kdm from starting, that'll stop x from starting, easiest way to do that would be to use sysv-rc-conf
[20:11] <okv> dwidmann: I don't know what drivers I use
[20:11] <dwidmann> okv: probably the "intel" driver
[20:11] <dwidmann> okv: you can kick yourself now :P
[20:12] <okv> dwidmann: Intel has commonly problems?
[20:12] <dwidmann> okv: I dunno
[20:12] <okv> dwidmann: Why the kick then? :)
[20:12] <dwidmann> okv: because it was soooo obvious
[20:12] <flipstar> btw where can i edit single icon's ?
[20:12] <okv> Yes I remember now, I stopped kdm from starting, can't remember how I did it though
[20:12] <okv> dwidmann: Which is obvious?
[20:13] <dwidmann> okv: that you would be using the "intel" driver wit the Intel 865VG card.
[20:13] <okv> dwidmann: Well, I don't know how many different drivers there are and how they are named.. I didn't know there is one single "intel" drivers for all intels, if that's the case
[20:13] <okv> dwidmann: But now I know :)
[20:14] <dwidmann> okv: well, there used to be an "i810" driver, I don't know if it's completely deprecated or not, or if it's still used for those really old ones ...
[20:14] <okv> dwidmann: I don't remember ever selecting a driver, except once for the X..
[20:15] <okv> dwidmann: I guess it does it automatically
[20:15] <dwidmann> flipstar: icons? /usr/share/icons???
[20:15] <Ketrel> well I'm going to be shopping for food soon, I'll ask again when I get back about stopping x from starting automatically
[20:15] <okv> Anyways, I just did some changes from the page flipstar gave, so I'll test if console started working, rebooting ->
[20:18] <Ketrel> ok I'll wait that long
[20:18] <flipstar> dwidmann: hm no gui for that? becorse i just installed an icon pack and would like to change a few
[20:19] <okv> flipstar: It didn't help
[20:19] <okv> CTRL+ALT+F1 and others still result in black screen / no signal
[20:19] <flipstar> okv: then url with the comment i posted ?
[20:19] <okv> flipstar: yep
[20:20] <flipstar> btw you'r monitor says 'no signal' ?
[20:20] <shadowbox> is libdvdcss2 still the file to have to view dvd's?
[20:20] <dwidmann> flipstar: well, that's where it puts the icons, you can edit them with whatever you want, and you could get to /usr/share/icons with dolphin/konqueror/etc of course
[20:20] <okv> flipstar: Yes, my monitor says "no signal"
[20:20] <okv> flipstar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/129910/comments/277 <-- this is what I tried, did all the edits mentioned there
[20:20] <ScorpKing> how do i import outlook emails into kmail or thunderbird? i've tried all the options in kmail but it only supports outlook express. thunderbird can't seem to import the emails at all. any ideas?
[20:20] <dwidmann> shadowbox: only commercial encrypted ones
[20:20] <shadowbox> I cant find it in adepts manager
[20:21] <dwidmann> shadowbox: grab it from medibuntu
[20:21] <ScorpKing> hiya dwidmann :)
[20:21] <okv> A weird thing, maybe worth mentioning, is that it changes the fonts into very strange thin ones while booting, the consonle normally even doesn't look like it used to
[20:21] <dwidmann> !css
[20:21] <shadowbox> I thought I had it installed
[20:21] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:21] <dwidmann> Hey ScorpKing
[20:21] <shadowbox> k9copy better than Thoggen?
[20:22] <JoshOvki> ScorpKing: you taken a look at this    http://kontact.kde.org/kmail/tools.php   ?
[20:22] <ScorpKing> heh. i'm also having trouble copying dvd's
[20:22] <ScorpKing> JoshOvki: one sec. looking now
[20:22] <Ketrel> What's Medibuntu?
[20:22] <shadowbox> first I've heard of it
[20:22] <Ketrel> unless
[20:22] <Ketrel> !Medibuntu
[20:22] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:22] <okv> I noticed another problem which stopped working with 8.04, beside the console and opera/flashplugin, also it seems mplayer plugin for firefox is not able to play streaming videos anymore, it was able to do it under 7.04 and 7.10
[20:22] <flipstar> okv: wired with the no signal one else i would mentioned you could run setupcon in a tty
[20:23] <okv> flipstar: I could do that, as consoles work fine until I start x
[20:23] <ScorpKing> JoshOvki: thanks. it's just what need :)
[20:23] <okv> flipstar: When I boot my machine, it doesn't start x directly, and initially all CTRL+ALT+F2 etc work perfectly
[20:23] <okv> flipstar: They only stop working after I startx
[20:24] <apache-n00b> flipstar: You could not help me right? :P i got banned from apache channel because they could not help me :D
[20:24] <flipstar> lol oO
[20:24] <MilitantPotato> Anyone else have shutdown problems with FGLRX in hardy?
[20:24] <apache-n00b> and nobody is answering in ubuntu-server
[20:24] <ScorpKing> !ask | apache-n00b
[20:24] <ubotu> apache-n00b: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[20:24] <shadowbox> ubuntu help pages suck when a newbie has Kubuntu
[20:24] <shadowbox> lol
[20:25] <dwidmann> MilitantPotato: think I talked to someone yesterday and they were having similar issues.
[20:25] <MilitantPotato> Someone posted a link that fixed it
[20:25] <flipstar> dwidmann: there are not the icons i installed and in the .tar.gz package are only wired .svgz files
[20:25] <dwidmann> shadowbox: some of them do, many of them are still applicable
[20:25] <apache-n00b> flipstar: I cannot fix this. It is impossible it seems. I want to override the apache thinking to proceed even if it does not find a index file or Indexing.
[20:25] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: a few people here use apache so explain your problem. maybe someone can help
[20:26] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: Yes, I am tryng to ;)
[20:26] <MilitantPotato> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32
[20:26]  * ScorpKing waits..
[20:26] <MilitantPotato> Fixed my fglrx shutdown hang
[20:26] <apache-n00b> Would be glad if you do not ban me if I got annoying.
[20:26] <dwidmann> flipstar: ah, then that's wherever you put them ..... so, you'd probably want to edit them with something like inkscape then
[20:26] <shadowbox> I'm copy & pasting the commands they tell me to put into konsole and konsole tells me command not found
[20:27] <shadowbox> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[20:27] <victorvall> are you freaks?
[20:27] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: follow the COC and you won't be banned
[20:27] <dwidmann> MilitantPotato: good to hear that there's a fix, I'll pass that along when I see him again
[20:27] <apache-n00b> When I am going to /var/www (http://localhost) I got 403, Forbidden. Because it cannot find any index file, and indexing is turned off. I want the request to go forward to my .htaccess file which handle the request to /var/www/www/default.php
[20:27] <JoshOvki> victorvall: yes thank you
[20:27] <shadowbox> yeah, baby
[20:27] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: COC?
[20:27] <victorvall> LOL
[20:28] <ScorpKing> !coc > apache-n00b
[20:28] <apache-n00b> Here is my htaccess file: http://pastebin.org/32399
[20:28] <victorvall> I'm too :P
[20:28] <MilitantPotato> !coc > MilitantPotato
[20:28] <DexterF> hi
[20:28] <JoshOvki> i have never acctualy read the CoC
[20:29] <apache-n00b> Here is what happening when I am going to root folder: http://pastebin.org/32379
[20:29] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default is where the default site config is.
[20:29] <DexterF> can someone tell me why copying a file to an NFS server draws almost all cpu power on a 2.2GHz chip?
[20:29] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: Yes I know ;) Thanks anyway :)
[20:29] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: I want to config so it could handle my request correct. I have Override All
[20:29] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: you can change /var/www/ to /var/www/www/
[20:30] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: That would break my structure. My framework would not work.
[20:30] <serguma> hello
[20:30] <dwidmann> !investigate
[20:30] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:30] <serguma> anybody there is willing to help me with a little problem?
[20:30] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: I want the request always to proceed. This problem only happens if rewrite uri goes / only
[20:31] <JoshOvki> serguma: ask the problem and people will help
[20:31] <serguma> ok :), just trying to be polite
[20:31] <serguma> heheh
[20:31] <JoshOvki> serguma: fair enough, no one else is tho ;)
[20:31] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: i would just put a link or index file in /var/www/ that points to /var/www/www/. also make sure all files in /var/www/ belongs to www-data
[20:31] <flipstar> apache-n00b: maybe make a link to /www/default.php ?
[20:31] <flipstar> dang too slow
[20:32] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: Would not work at all. I shall explain why, just a sec
[20:32] <apache-n00b> flipstar: Same there.
[20:32] <serguma> well, my problem is that since I reinstalled kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 mix i can no longer execute some programs as superuser
[20:32] <serguma> for example, if I write sudo dolphin on the console
[20:33] <serguma> serguma@serguma-desktop:~$ sudo dolphin
[20:33] <serguma> sudo: dolphin: command not found
[20:33] <serguma> if I only write dolphin everything is OK
[20:33] <serguma> the same thing happens with kate, konqueror, etc...
[20:33] <JoshOvki> whats the graphical sudo command?
[20:33] <dwidmann> serguma: try kdesudo
[20:33] <serguma> and I wanted to make some file managing with a graphic interface, but I can't
[20:33] <apache-n00b> Well, this is what happens if the request goes to /var/www/default.php directly: My framework would think the request is /www which means it is first searching for www module which does not exists. Then it looks for www controller which not exist either. Last step is to get index file in default module.
[20:33] <DexterF> Kohlrabi: kdesu
[20:33] <serguma> dwidmann: same problem :(
[20:33] <ScorpKing> JoshOvki: or kdesudo
[20:33] <serguma> i've already tried
[20:34] <Kohlrabi> DexterF: huh?
[20:34] <ScorpKing> heh
[20:34] <dwidmann> serguma: try adding /usr/lib/kde4/bin to your path
[20:34] <DexterF> Kohlrabi: whoops. wrong nick
[20:34] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing, flipstar: So the ground model is like this: localhost/:module/:controller/:command/:params
[20:34] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: why do you put everything in /var/www/www/ and not in /var/www/ ?
[20:35] <apache-n00b> The framework is build upon the request. I must get the / uri to get startpage.
[20:35] <dwidmann> serguma: probably at the beginning of the path .... something like PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH in your ~/.bashrc
[20:35] <DexterF> serguma: kdesu. but I guess sudo expects the full path then. try sudo /usr/bin/dolphin. if that does it, file a bug.
[20:35] <Berzerker> ok
[20:35] <Berzerker> well
[20:35] <Berzerker> apparently my sound doesn't work anymore
[20:35] <serguma> dwidmann: im a bit new at that :$
[20:35] <DexterF> Berzerker: the device numbering for sound cards changed, I think.
[20:35] <dwidmann> serguma: should be copy+pastable
[20:36] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: hmm.. sorry but that's beyond me
[20:36] <serguma> serguma@serguma-desktop:/usr/lib/kde4/bin$ kdesu /usr/bin/dolphin
[20:36] <serguma> sudo: /usr/bin/dolphin: command not found
[20:36] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: I do not put everything in /var/www/www. Structure is that everything in www folder under /var/www has default.php, images, css and so on. libs contains my framework Smash, and app contains my website, which means all controllers, modules, templates and so on.
[20:36] <Berzerker> DexterF: ??
[20:36] <sepeck> does kubuntu have a built in firewall and if so where do I look for the configurations settings?  v8.,0.4
[20:36] <flipstar> serguma: type which dolphin and then kdesu that path you gathered before
[20:37] <DexterF> Berzerker: used to start with 0, now its 1. you are talking about after an upgrade?
[20:37] <Berzerker> no
[20:37] <Berzerker> I just restarted before
[20:37] <Berzerker> and now my sound doesn't work
[20:37] <Berzerker> I'm on hardy
[20:37] <DexterF> Berzerker: more than one sound device? like onboard and card?
[20:37] <Berzerker> well I have onboard and line out
[20:37] <serguma> serguma@serguma-desktop:~$ which dolphin
[20:37] <serguma> /usr/lib/kde4/bin//dolphin
[20:37] <serguma> serguma@serguma-desktop:~$ kdesu /usr/lib/kde/bin//dolphin
[20:37] <serguma> sudo: /usr/lib/kde/bin//dolphin: command not found
[20:37] <Berzerker> both don't work
[20:37] <dwidmann> flipstar: seeing as it's dolphin we're talking about, and ?he's using kde4, it should definitely be /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin
[20:37] <Berzerker> line out never worked
[20:37] <martijn81> sepeck: kubuntu comes with iptables, there are numerous GUI's to configure it
[20:38] <Berzerker> (I'm on a laptop)
[20:38] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: The funny thing is that I got this working before, but I do not remember how to. It is simple, that is for sure. It took ages to figure out whcih line I should edit before. But it was so long time ago I setup an apache server.
[20:38] <BluesKaj> strange i keep getting this error but the file is in the same dir as the app that I'm using to decode just as the tutorial instructs
[20:38] <sepeck> martijn81,k, thanks.... googling away
[20:38] <BluesKaj> config.status:625: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in
[20:38] <serguma> dwidmann: where should I copy paste those commands you told me before?
[20:38] <martijn81> sepeck: kmyfirewall is a well known
[20:38] <serguma> not luck this far :(
[20:38] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: I thought it was AllowOverride All, but that only make .htaccess file possible, not the rest.
[20:38] <sepeck> martijn81, first hit on google too
[20:38] <dwidmann> serguma: add it as a new line in your ~/.bashrc file
[20:38] <martijn81> but you have to have some knowledge of firewalles for that
[20:38] <DexterF> Berzerker: clueless. if there's an .asoundrc in home, rename it and see if you have sound then. if not, rename it back.
[20:39] <serguma> dwidmann: and where is it?
[20:39] <sepeck> martijn81, geting my ssh server setup again to avoid that silly websebce proxy at work :)
[20:39] <serguma> in home?
[20:39] <Berzerker> don't see .asoundrc
[20:39] <dwidmann> serguma:  ~ = home
[20:39] <serguma> yeah, but using ls i don't see it
[20:39] <dwidmann> serguma: erm, ~ = $HOME
[20:39] <dwidmann> serguma:  it's hidden
[20:39] <serguma> oops :$
[20:39] <serguma> sorry, i'm quite new
[20:39] <serguma> is it owned by system?
[20:39] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: Except this little issue, my framework is "perfect". Works like Zend Framework mostly.
[20:39] <dwidmann> serguma: files starting with a "." are hidden files
[20:40] <dwidmann> serguma: this one is owned by you.
[20:40] <ScorpKing> apache-n00b: all config is in /etc/apache2/. i also think you need to put www/ in front of anything you run in /var/www/www/. i'd start looking at the pages in /var/www/www/. they might try to access the files in /var/www/ wich does not exist
[20:40] <Berzerker> DexterF: How would I go about reinstalling the sound drivers?
[20:40] <serguma> ok, thx :)
[20:40] <ScorpKing> i have to go. cheers guys and have fun
[20:41] <dwidmann> will try scor
[20:41] <DexterF> Berzerker: not at all. either the kernel loaded the module or it didn't. lspci, see if it's there, then go hunting down which device a sound app tries to open with strace (see man page)
[20:41] <apache-n00b> ScorpKing: I am using the moodule Rewrite inside my .htaccess file. Which process every single request to /var/www/www/default.php. Then inside default.php my framework decide what to do from the uri.
[20:41] <Berzerker> audio device is there
[20:41] <serguma> dwidmann: so I copy the lines at the beginning?
[20:42] <dwidmann> serguma: the end would probably be most appropriate
[20:42] <serguma> dwidmann: yeah, you're right
[20:42] <serguma> done
[20:42] <serguma> what next?
[20:42] <dwidmann> serguma: log out, log back in
[20:43] <rohan> how do i get cdrom's to mount at a specific location? whenever i insert a cdrom, it creates a new directory in /media, called "Transcend", or whatever the label of the CD is
[20:43] <marc0s> hi
[20:43] <serguma> ok, brb :)
[20:43] <rohan> could someone please check their default fstab and tell me whether an entry for cdrom exists?
[20:43] <marc0s> rohan: yes i have one for the cdrom
[20:43] <DexterF> I wonder if there will be an Ubuntu release ever that doesn't mess up somebody's sound
[20:43] <DexterF> I doubt it.
[20:43] <rohan> marc0s: can you please paste that line
[20:44] <rohan> DexterF: which card do you have?
[20:44] <marc0s> rohan: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[20:44] <DexterF> rohan: mine is fine, I didn't upgrade yet. Berzerker has issues with his laptop sound
[20:45] <rohan> DexterF: sound, especially on laptops, is a very touch thing, agreed
[20:45] <rohan> marc0s: thanks
[20:45] <DexterF> friend of mine had to reconf his after upgrading, too. and on 7.10. and 7.04. and 6.10. and 6.06 had issues right away.
[20:45] <DexterF> rohan: no other distro I use has so many device naming/numbering issues as Ubuntu
[20:45] <dwidmann> DexterF: That would be too nice
[20:45] <JoshOvki> mine sound worked fine after upgrading
[20:45] <serguma> back
[20:46] <rohan> DexterF: what do you mean by naming numbering issues?
[20:46] <dwidmann> wb serguma
[20:46] <JoshOvki> there is a bug that means my speaker control is controled by surround but thats nothing major
[20:46] <serguma> :( still doesn't work
[20:46] <DexterF> dwidmann: like: today we start counting at 0, tomorrow at 1. today we load module x first, tomorrow module y
[20:46] <rohan> can someone please confirm that "Safely Remove"ing pen drives on kubuntu 8.04 works? every time i try, i get "Safely unmounted, but could not eject", or some such
[20:46] <flipstar> serguma: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin doesn work but kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin not ?
[20:46] <Nyad> Hi. I am downloading the ISO for Hardy, but I don't have any CD's  is there away I can mount that ISO and install HARDY from it without using a CD?
[20:47] <rohan> !usb > Nyad
[20:47] <DexterF> rohan: possibly this means it cant eject because its no cd/dvd..?
[20:47] <flipstar> !install > Nyad
[20:47] <rohan> Nyad: you can install using pen drive, which is exactly what i did :)
[20:47] <Berzerker> DexterF: I got it
[20:47] <DexterF> Berzerker: what was it?
[20:48] <rohan> DexterF: then it shouldn't show that error
[20:48] <Berzerker> DexterF: My Line channel was muted. :P
[20:48] <DexterF> Berzerker: dude. :)
[20:48] <serguma> flipstar: the second one works now :S, perhaps I mistyped
[20:48] <Nyad> would it work from a USB harddrive and not a flash?
[20:48] <rohan> DexterF: or, clicking on "Safely Remove" shouldn't try to eject
[20:49] <DexterF> rohan: sure right. bug?
[20:49] <rohan> Nyad: it should, provided your computer is capable of booting from it
[20:49] <marc0s> i'm having some "troubles" mounting via dolphin one volume, it asks me for the sudo password (it raises a kdesu window), how can i configure it to not ask for it, as is working now with usb drives?
[20:49] <rohan> DexterF: going to file one in a few minutes
[20:49] <marc0s> i'm using hardy with kde4
[20:49] <flipstar> could someone please program an icon manager :/
[20:49] <serguma> well, it looks like typing the full path without double bars at the end makes it work
[20:49] <serguma> should I fill a bug report?
[20:50] <serguma> (and how do I do that?)
[20:50] <Berzerker> oh wow
[20:50] <Berzerker> audio out works
[20:51] <JoshOvki> lol
[20:51] <Berzerker> I think I got everything working
[20:51] <Berzerker> amazing.
[20:51] <JoshOvki> Berzerker: its improved your sound output has it?
[20:51] <Berzerker> what has
[20:51] <JoshOvki> the upgrade
[20:51] <Berzerker> oh no
[20:51] <JoshOvki> just hasnt broke it
[20:51] <Berzerker> I installed hardy from scratch
[20:51] <Berzerker> on a Macbook Pro
[20:51] <Berzerker> I wanted to get optical out working
[20:51] <JoshOvki> wow
[20:52] <fleebailey33> moooo
[20:52] <fleebailey33> nooo
[20:52] <fleebailey33> Berzerker, is here too
[20:52] <Berzerker> lol
[20:52]  * fleebailey33 cries
[20:52] <fleebailey33> im still banned from ##iphone btw. not like i care
[20:52] <Berzerker> JoshOvki: everything works. Take it from me.
[20:52] <Berzerker> fleebailey33: cool
[20:52] <fleebailey33> im going back to kubuntu
[20:52] <fleebailey33> i hate myself
[20:52] <apache-n00b> flipstar: Yeah, an icon manager would be awesome :P
[20:53] <Berzerker> actualyl
[20:53] <Berzerker> I wanted to try and get iTunes working
[20:53] <serguma> dwidmann: looks like I solved my problem, more or less
[20:53] <Berzerker> under Wine
[20:53] <Berzerker> is possible?
[20:53] <dwidmann> serguma: how'd ya do it?
[20:53] <apache-n00b> Would Dolphin handles tabs in the future? LIke in firefox?
[20:54] <ses59_> I wondered if anyone had any suggestions for a database for someone in the medical field to keep name and address with notes on treatments
[20:54] <rohan> apache-n00b: file a feature request?
[20:54] <serguma> dwidmann: i'm a bit of a dummy and I mistyped the direct route, so if i write kdesu /usr/bin/kde4/dolphin it works as intended
[20:54] <serguma> but can't execute it like before, without typing the whole route
[20:55] <apache-n00b> rohan: No I just wondered, I am too lazy. I heard or read it from somewhere. Just wondered if anyone could confirm.
[20:55] <serguma> may I delete the line in .bashcr?
[20:55] <Berzerker> anyone get their iphone working in linux
[20:55] <flipstar> rohan: where again ?
[20:55] <dwidmann> serguma: you may ... I still find it pecuiliar that it won't let you do it without the whole path though
[20:55] <serguma> yeah, I think the same :S
[20:55] <dwidmann> serguma: kdesu `which dolphin` would probably be less typing
[20:55] <rohan> flipstar: err what?
[20:55] <godigy> hello, i just installed kubuntu, but whenever my comptuer sleeps and i wake it up the screen goes wierd
[20:56] <flipstar> serguma: or just make an alias ;)
[20:56] <flipstar> rohan: where can we fill feature request again..?
[20:56] <serguma> the thing is that it happens with all the system installed programs :S
[20:56] <godigy> like the whole screen gets squished and i have to restart x to set it right, does anyone know the solution to this or how to keep my computer from sleeping
[20:56] <serguma> not with any that I installed
[20:56] <serguma> but with the ones that came
[20:56] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: the suggestion made by contrast83 (rename .kde) to reset all settings worked; the bugs are gone !
[20:56] <rohan> godigy: have a look here -- http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/
[20:57] <serguma> is there a way to solve it globally?
[20:57] <rohan> flipstar: on the kde bug tracker - http://bugs.kde.org/
[20:57] <serguma> (how do I fill a bug report?)
[20:57] <flipstar> serguma: it's probably becorse wrappers for kde4 are still missing
[20:57] <dwidmann> serguma: go to www.launchpad.net and type in everything it asks you, and all you know about the problem.
[20:57] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: to remove the confusion: I took the chance to change my nick from Leeuw to Deepthought, cause Leeuw appeared to be taken according to nickserv
[20:57] <dwidmann> serguma: you'll have to create an account first.
[20:58] <serguma> well, no problem, I'll create one
[20:58] <serguma> by the way, can I ask you how to solve a unrelated problem?
[20:58] <dwidmann> sure
[20:59] <Berzerker> sigh
[20:59] <Berzerker> Looks like I'll have to jailbreak my iphone
[20:59] <serguma> do you know why whenever I log out and log in again all the system tray icons are messed?
[20:59] <dwidmann> serguma: not a clue, what variety of messed up do they look like?
[20:59] <serguma> they aren't show in the system tray, but in the desktop in the top left corner with a little box and all of them atop the other
[21:00] <serguma> shown*
[21:00] <serguma> i can log out and make a screenshot
[21:00] <obvio> updating to hardy broke my vpn access. has anybody had the same problem?
[21:00] <serguma> if log out and log in again all comes back to normal
[21:00] <obvio> starting kvpnc now just makes my whole wlan connection go dead
[21:00] <BluesKaj> cool, Deepthought , glad to hear the settings worked ! :)
[21:00] <dwidmann> serguma: screenshot, that's worth a bug report too
[21:01] <dwidmann> serguma: kde4 is still full of a lot of problems .... nowhere near as mature as KDE3
[21:01] <serguma> ok, i'll brb, first I want to show it to you to see if it's a known problem or not :S
[21:02] <serguma> dwidmann: yeah, I know, but if we don't test it it'll never be as good as KDE3 :P
[21:02] <Deepthought> BluesKaj:  yep, and it gives me the joy of tuning my rig all over again; plus the stress-relieving feeling that I can ' reset'  it if stuff gets weird...
[21:02] <serguma> brb
[21:03] <dwidmann> serguma: that's true .... which is why I'm running KDE4 too (with a few KDE3 apps mixed in where I need them (ie: gwenview, knetworkmanager, konversation,amarok, kmix ....)
[21:03] <marc0s> can somebody point me out how to configure dolphin/kde/whatever not to ask for sudo password for mounting a disk partition (not an external disk but a sata drive)... with USB disks i have no problem...
[21:03] <rohan> kde4 is meant to be "usable" from kde 4.1 onwards, but many people are already using it
[21:03] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: do you think it would be a good idea to check those broken dependencies still ?   Or is that best left to crisis-management situations (if it ain' t broke, don't fix it maybe)
[21:03] <rohan> marc0s: use "visudo" and add the word NOPASSWD in the last line
[21:03] <Deepthought> /identify Deepthought moi
[21:04] <marc0s> i can type in the password but afterwards i have to open dolphin with sudo...
[21:04] <Deepthought> join #nickserv
[21:04] <rohan> so, the last line will read - %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[21:04] <marc0s> rohan: not a solution ... :)
[21:04] <dwidmann> rohan: without loads of bug reports though it might not quite get there by 4.1 though ...
[21:04] <rohan> marc0s: why?
[21:04] <Deepthought> /nickserv
[21:04] <marc0s> rohan: i don't want to run dolphin with sudo and not ask me a password for that
[21:04] <dwidmann> marc0s: you'd have to edit your fstab, probably
[21:04] <marc0s> what i want is to get the partition mounted as if it was an usb drive
[21:05] <rohan> marc0s: ah ok..
[21:05] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, there is a way in synaptic to fix broken packages , which from what i've been told is the same and safer than the command i gave you.
[21:05] <Sevenhill> Hi There
[21:05] <rohan> dwidmann: it's a chicken-and-egg situation, sadly
[21:05] <dwidmann> marc0s: add "user" to the options part of that line of your fstab( the one corresponding to that partition)
[21:05] <marc0s> dwidmann: so i understand that are not handled equally external and disk drives, right?
[21:05] <Sevenhill> is that console color bug fixed ?
[21:05] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: ehm, search for 'broken' , right ?
[21:06] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, in synaptic under edit/fix broken packages
[21:06] <dwidmann> rohan: kind of, and even at 4.1 there will still be  a lot of problems, I say 4.2 will be the more usable one (a lot of apps haven't made it in yet, but will be in at 4.1 .... they'll be needing lots of bug reporting love and will probably be straightened out by 4.2)
[21:06] <Bauldrick> im trying to mount a mac drive, but it only mounts read only? i want to write to it
[21:07] <rohan> dwidmann: well, let's hope for the best :)
[21:07] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: ok, I' ll check it out.
[21:07] <_sourcemaker> are there newsgroups for kubuntu?
[21:07] <dwidmann> marc0s: they're handle just the same for the most part
[21:07] <serguma> backk
[21:07] <dwidmann> marc0s: in fact, I can't think of any situations where they aren't
[21:07] <rohan> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/223246 ---> i'd be thankful if someone can confirm this bug
[21:07] <Sevenhill> is there any devel channel for kubuntu ?
[21:08] <flipstar> _sourcemaker: there are severel mailing lists
[21:08] <serguma> dwidmann: bugs are really picky, happened everytime before, and now I'm not able to repro it :(
[21:08] <serguma> perhaps next time I reboot
[21:08] <coreymon77> Sevenhill: yes, #kubuntu-devel
[21:08] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: Found it, clicked it, nothing happened; that means everything is in order, right ?
[21:08] <Sevenhill> coreymon77: thx
[21:08] <marc0s> dwidmann: uhm... but my usb drives are mounted without typing in any sudo password... maybe it's an udev thing??
[21:09] <coreymon77> marc0s: usb keys are different than external hard drives
[21:09] <kaminix> Strange error when trying to mount an usb harddrive automaticall (by just plugging it in):  'A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")'
[21:09] <kaminix> The device didn't mount correctly
[21:09] <dwidmann> marc0s: maybe,k iono
[21:09] <coreymon77> !paste | kaminix
[21:09] <ubotu> kaminix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:10] <kaminix> Uhm... isn't that for multiple lines only coreymon77?
[21:10] <dwidmann> serguma: funny how that works sometimes, but you can still make the bug without the screenshot and atttach the next time you're able to reproduce it
[21:11] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, usually yes :)
[21:12] <serguma> dwidmann: I report it as a ubuntu bug? because I can't find the kubuntu option :(
[21:13] <dwidmann> serguma: right
[21:13] <serguma> dwidmann: do I mention any package?
[21:13] <dwidmann> serguma: I think the package would probably be kdebase-workspace-bin
[21:14] <serguma> no mention of kde4?
[21:14] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: gooood.   Still, very convenient stuff, synaptic and all that other ubuntu automagics; makes it much easier to handle.   But it' s really a pity it makes it harder to understand wht's going on behind all that, I wish now I had stuck around a little longer in one of those frustrating stone-age linuxes trhat I tried over the years, because I'm not that good at the terminal
[21:14] <dwidmann> serguma: that's the package that plasma (kde4 desktop & panel) is included in
[21:15] <serguma> dwidmann: ah, it's not the same for kde3?
[21:15] <serguma> sorry, still learning :$
[21:15] <dwidmann> serguma: most of the kde4 packages are marked with a -kde4 at the end, but not this one apparently.
[21:16] <serguma> dwidmann: ok, thanks :)
[21:16] <Freddy2> hi
[21:16] <serguma> dwidmann: do you think Not able to execute system programs as superuser from console is a good summary?
[21:17] <serguma> i'm spanish and my English isn't quite as good as most of you, so I don't know if everything I write sounds right
[21:17] <dwidmann> serguma: that should work, be sure to get more specific in the actual message though
[21:17] <dwidmann> serguma: your English seems pretty good to me
[21:18] <serguma> dwidmann: thx :)
[21:18] <Freddy2> serguma: que te pasa? a ver, dile al chache fredi xD
[21:18] <serguma> Freddy2: nada, aqui escribiendo un bug report, a ver si me apaño :S
[21:18] <Freddy2> anyway, can you add kde4 into a kde 3.5.x based version? (i mean, 8.04)
[21:18] <dwidmann> Freddy2: you can have both installed side by side
[21:19] <Freddy2> the goal is being able to select the one you prefer at.. kdm
[21:19] <dwidmann> yes to that too
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, the terminal is a an ongoing learning experience IMO and i don't think it will ever end for me either.
[21:19] <eMaX> hi all
[21:20] <eMaX> since going to hardy, whenever i start an x program from konsole, it comes with no window decorations. starting from xterm works. any ideas anyone?
[21:20] <Deepthought> BluesKaj: you do have a point there... I know I' m getting somewhere with it from time to time, at least I CAN use it, wich is a lot more than most users that migrated from windoze
[21:20] <acer4920> selam turk varmı
[21:21] <acer4920> selam arkadaslar
[21:21] <rohan> eMaX: for example?
[21:21] <pteague_laptop> anybody know how to disable the touchpad tap is a click?  apparently mine is overly sensitive
[21:22] <dwidmann> pteague_laptop: I know how, one sec
[21:22] <rohan> pteague_laptop: using kubuntu, i think you'd need to edit xorg.conf
[21:22] <pteague_laptop> i'll be typing along & suddenly it decides to click on something... not fun ;)
[21:22] <eMaX> like I start "xterm" out of "konsole". Now window border, no integration with display manager at all. I start xterm out of xterm, everything works.
[21:22] <BluesKaj> Deepthought, yeah I think most of us did migrate from windows ...there some unix guys around but they're the old pros :)
[21:23] <kaminix> How can I remove that really loud system BEEEEP which comes a little now and then whenever I get an e-mail and stuff like that.
[21:23] <rohan> eMaX: hmm no it's working fine here
[21:23] <pteague_laptop> yeah, i know i'll have to modify the InputDevice section for the synaptic touchpad, but not sure what i need to set it to
[21:23] <JoshOvki> i started on a BBC :)
[21:23] <dwidmann> pteague_laptop: add three lines to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the Synaptics section, the first line is  ----- Option "TapButton1" "0"
[21:24] <BluesKaj> kaminix, system settings/notifications/turn off all sounds
[21:24] <dwidmann> pteague_laptop: the other two lines will be the same, except use TapButton2 and TapButton3
[21:24] <serguma> dwidmann: you told me to write sudo 'which dolphin' for example before, no?
[21:24] <eMaX> it seems to have to do with konsole. starting things from "start..." also works.
[21:24] <rohan> BluesKaj: no need to really turn off *all* sounds
[21:24] <esperegu> how to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?
[21:24] <dwidmann> serguma: kdesu
[21:24] <pteague_laptop> dwidmann> awesome, thanks :)
[21:25] <dwidmann> serguma: starting graphical apps with sudo is a bad idea, it can make it so you can't log in in bad case scenarios
[21:25] <serguma> dwidmann: you know the irony?
[21:25] <dwidmann> serguma: not yet
[21:25] <serguma> dwidmann: kdesu which doesn't work either
[21:25] <acer4920> #kubuntu-turkiye
[21:25] <dwidmann> serguma: !!
[21:25] <dwidmann> serguma: that sucks
[21:25] <serguma> yeah xD
[21:26] <dwidmann> serguma: pull up konsole and type "echo $PATH"
[21:26] <serguma> erguma@serguma-desktop:~$ echo $PATH
[21:26] <serguma> /usr/lib/kde4/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:26] <serguma> serguma@serguma-desktop:~$
[21:26] <dwidmann> Well, it's there, and it's first, I wonder why it's not finding the apps!
[21:27] <esperegu> how to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?
[21:27] <david567> hello, i need help with conky
[21:27] <purpleposeidon> What's the best mp3 player to buy?
[21:27] <Freddy2> xDD
[21:27] <david567> if i launch it without a .conkyrc file it works but in the bottom left area, if i use the sample .copnkyrc then the screen goes black and i am forced to remove power and reboot. any help?
[21:27] <purpleposeidon> !ipod
[21:27] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[21:28] <serguma> the bug report is the following, is it OK?
[21:28] <serguma> Using Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4
[21:28] <serguma> The bug I encountered prevents me from executing any system preinstalled program as superuser from the console.
[21:28] <serguma> For example, if I want to open kate to edit a system file, and I type sudo kate I get a "command not found" message  (kdesudo kate or kdesu kate do the same thing).
[21:28] <serguma> If I write kate without the sudo part it works as intended, but without superuser privileges (obviously).
[21:28] <serguma> The same thing happens with dolphin, konqueror, etc.
[21:28] <serguma> If I type the direct route (found with the "which" command) everything works as intended, for example "kdesu /usr/lib/kde4/bin//kate" opens the program without a problem.
[21:29] <Freddy2> serguma: you should have used any paste website instead, such as http://www.rafb.net/paste
[21:29] <serguma> sorry, not used to irc :S
[21:29] <dwidmann> serguma: it's giving me a similar error, now that I look into it closer
[21:29] <dwidmann> serguma: kdesudo is telling me "command not found"
[21:30] <serguma> dwidmann: do you think the bug report is OK?
[21:30] <dwidmann> serguma: it should be, link me to it when you're done with it, I'd like to comment on it just to help seed the confirmation of it :)
[21:30] <kaminix> BluesKaj: But I want the normal sounds, just not the really loud system beep
[21:30] <david567> anyone knows how to help me?
[21:31] <serguma> dwidmann: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/223264
[21:31] <david567> or tell me where to find the basic config file for conky
[21:31] <BluesKaj> sorry kaminix , dunno
[21:31] <BluesKaj> kaminix, rohan , i don't like any of those sounds , so I just turn 'em all off  :)
[21:32] <kaminix> BluesKaj: Me neither really, but I like to hear when getting mail and stuff...
[21:32] <kaminix> Guess no sound is better than that though :p
[21:32] <dwidmann> serguma: I wonder where kdesudo is getting its path from.
[21:32] <Freddy2> then try kdesu echo $PATH, or something like that
[21:33] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: you want to turn off the beep for kmail only?
[21:33] <melkart> https://bugs.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/196106 <-- could somebody explain to me why the reportedly uploaded packages are not yet available?
[21:33] <Freddy2> and check which user is being invoked every time you use kdesu, and where to redefine its path (assuming that's the problem)
[21:33] <serguma> dwidmann: to be honest i've been using windows my whole life, so I don't get the inner workings or linux yet :(
[21:33] <dwidmann> Freddy2: because it's not looking at /usr/lib/kde4/bin, which *is* in the $PATH
[21:33] <serguma> of*
[21:33] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: No, I have a nice pling set for KMail, but it's played at the same time as a super loud system beep which just won't go away.
[21:34] <Freddy2> is  in the PATH for the current user, but kdesu will be executed by the superuser
[21:34] <Freddy2> it looks like that
[21:34] <dwidmann> Freddy2: kdesudo echo $PATH behaves as expected ... nothing abnormal, but it's not looking in /usr/lib/kde4/bin
[21:34] <dwidmann> Freddy2: you may have a point there, perhaps I need to add /usr/lib/kde4/bin to /etc/environment, though that will mess with my KDE3
[21:35] <Freddy2> you may check it
[21:35] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: have you tried going to in kmail Settings --> Configure Kmail --> Accounts --> Receiveing --> Newmail notification and uncheck the "beep" check box?
[21:35] <dwidmann> brb, going to reboot
[21:35] <jony> i've just installed compiz fusion and ive realized that my inactive window decoration disappears when they are inactive why is that?
[21:36] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: Will you look at that! Thanks!
[21:36] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: np
[21:37] <kaminix> lol, what is up with the KGet sounds!? :D Sound of an explosion for 'all downloads are finished' :p
[21:38] <Deepthough1> just testing
[21:38] <jony> could anyone help me?
[21:38] <esperegu> how to install plasmoids like lancelot on kubuntu?
[21:38] <JoshOvki> jony: nope. because we dont know your problem
[21:39] <JoshOvki> oh yes we do i just cant read
[21:39] <jony> [23:35] <jony> i've just installed compiz fusion and ive realized that my inactive window decoration disappears when they are inactive why is that?
[21:39] <JoshOvki> jony: i typed before i read sorry about that
[21:39] <jony> sorry for being such a trouble child i've just switched from windows to linux :)
[21:40] <jony> so its kind of new to me
[21:40] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: there are ways to change the sound of the system beep...
[21:41] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: How?
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> fire up xterm and I'll show you...
[21:41] <mckaycr> how do I perform an upgrade of kubuntu?
[21:41] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade
[21:41] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:42] <hack00> hi, how can i search for a file inside a package with apt-get?
[21:42] <jony> it seems like they doesnt disappears totally, i can see thin contours
[21:42] <serguma> dwidmann: wb :)
[21:43] <funkyjansson> jony! Could it be that you have different colors for inactive and active windows?
[21:43] <serguma> dwidmann: wb again xD
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: konsole doesn't use the system beep (at least not by default) so you will have to experiment with another term suchas xterm, yakuake, or the built in terminal in konq...
[21:43] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: got one of those?
[21:43] <dwidmann> umm, nope, didn't work, not at all
[21:43] <jony> does compiz fusion adjust that aswell?
[21:43] <b3lt3r> can anyone suggest why I cannot open a remote X session displaying back to my Hardy desktop - I have commented out the -nolisten tcp line in kdmrc?
[21:44] <dwidmann> I added /usr/lib/kde4/bin to /etc/environment and kdesudo still won't exec any kde4 apps without the full path :(
[21:44] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: I use yakuake, it doesn't make any sounds at all I think. Only problem left doing it now is probably konqueror
[21:44] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[21:44] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: even if you do bksp? on prompt?
[21:45] <jony> because i don't have that problem if i disable compiz
[21:45] <bmk789> it stopped working after upgrading to hardy
[21:45] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: Yup
[21:45] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: nay ways, try this in terminal: xset b 100 2000 20
[21:45] <funkyjansson> yeah, install emerald, sudo apt-get install emerald
[21:46] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: then see listen to the change in sound.
[21:46] <funkyjansson> there u can change stuff about the windowboarders
[21:46] <spiroo> It really sucks to be me. Nobody can help me anymore. I must help myself :'(
[21:46] <serguma> dwidmann: so no luck this far, no :)?
[21:46] <kaminix> Odd-rationale: nm, I had set it not to use system bell. Changed it to some cool visible bell now ^^
[21:46] <dwidmann> hmmm, this is interesting: dpkg: /usr/lib/kde4/bin//kdesudo not found.
[21:46] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: ok
[21:46] <funkyjansson> kde-look.org, there u can download new boarders to use with emerald
[21:47] <serguma> dwidmann: so it's not in that path?
[21:47] <Odd-rationale> kaminix: here's some doc that might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4075006&postcount=3
[21:47] <dwidmann> serguma: no, just dpkg doesn't have any record of any package installing that file
[21:47] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[21:47] <kaminix> Directory '/var/run/screen' must have mode 777. <--- Why does it keep changing itself!?
[21:48] <dwidmann> wait, there it is, kdesudo-kde4, which was just being weird
[21:48] <serguma> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8425/ no use for that, no?
[21:49] <crash_> ok. Got the WiFi card installed (I think). Now how the heck to I use it?
[21:50] <cweagans> Ok, so I just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu system. Then I installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop. How do I remove all the old kde3 apps?
[21:50] <coreymon77> crash_: what card?
[21:50] <coreymon77> cweagans: i wouldnt, there arent kde4 versions for everything yet
[21:50] <crash_> coreymon77: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335, or so claims lspci
[21:50] <cweagans> but there are a lot of duplicates in the menu
[21:50] <serguma> dwidmann: one question, you asked me the link for the bug report before, you recieved it? you post a comment? (because I don't see one), just curious, it's my first report :)
[21:51] <coreymon77> crash_: do you have any idea of the chipset?
[21:51] <funkyjansson> anybody know a commandline to switch the screen used? Got two screens - one is a 16:9 TV and the default one is 4:3. It messes up the grapichs.
[21:51] <crash_> coreymon77: that IS the chipset
[21:51] <dwidmann> serguma: well, I'll do that now, I was hoping I could find some sort of work around first, but no such luck
[21:51] <serguma> dwidmann: ok ^^
[21:51] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[21:51] <funkyjansson> got a ati radeon x600
[21:52] <cweagans> coreymon77: there are a lot of annoying duplicates in the menu though...is there a way to remove the kde3 versions of the duplicates? or do I have to do it manually?
[21:52] <crash_> coreymon77: if you're interested in the make /model, its a Zonet ZEW1502
[21:52] <coreymon77> crash_: you installed the drivers already?
[21:53] <crash_> coreymon77: I was kind of hoping Kubuntu would have auto-installed something
[21:53] <coreymon77> crash_: well, the meta package contains all of the kde3 apps
[21:53] <mckaycr> why is gksu an unknown command?
[21:53] <coreymon77> crash_: whoops, wrong person
[21:53] <coreymon77> cweagans: that was for you
[21:54] <coreymon77> cweagans: meaning, that since there arent kde4 versions for everything, you would have to remove each of the apps you wanted to remove one by one with apt
[21:54] <coreymon77> crash_: well, lets find out, type iwconfig into console and see what it gives you
[21:54] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[21:55] <crash_> lo and eth0, both with no wireless extensions
[21:55] <cweagans> coreymon77: alright. I guess I'll do that
[21:55] <cweagans> coreymon77: thanks!
[21:56] <mckaycr> trying to upgrade 6.06, gksu command not found???
[21:57] <coreymon77> mckaycr: what are you using gksu for?
[21:57] <mckaycr> trying to upgrade
[21:57] <dwidmann> serguma: commented
[21:57] <coreymon77> ubuntu or kubuntu?
[21:57] <mckaycr> coreymon77: kubuntu
[21:57] <coreymon77> crash_: okay, unfortunately, we have to use ndis for this
[21:57] <serguma> dwidmann: thanks :)
[21:57] <coreymon77> mckaycr: using what, adept?
[21:58] <crash_> ew
[21:58] <serguma> dwidmann: will they notify me if any solution is found?
[21:58] <crash_> NDIS
[21:58] <crash_> no linux native drivers then?
[21:58] <coreymon77> crash_: sorry
[21:58] <mckaycr> coreymon77: using konsole "gksu "update-manager -c""
[21:58] <crash_> bah
[21:58] <crash_> I can handle an NDIS wrapper install and setup.
[21:58] <coreymon77> mckaycr: gksu is the gnome command
[21:58] <crash_> I was just hoping there were some new drivers out that no one had seen fit to mention.
[21:59] <coreymon77> mckaycr: its kdesu that you are looking fo
[21:59] <coreymon77> r
[21:59] <bmk789> Trevinho: are you THE trevino? with the thing over the n?
[21:59] <coreymon77> crash_: is this a lappy or a desktop?
[21:59] <crash_> lappy
[21:59] <weswh-> i'm building a new system...been running feisty on a 5 year old box for a long time, time to change...looking to get an intel dual or quad core processor - could anyone recommend some good motherboards? or good chipsets...things that work well with kubuntu obviously
[22:00] <zorglu_> so hardy got released?
[22:00] <crash_> yeah
[22:00] <xenol> i would like to ask in what ways is upstart better than the old sys V init?
[22:00] <xenol> zorglu_: yup
[22:00] <crash_> but adept crashes every time I try to install it
[22:00] <zorglu_> crash_: hehe ok :)
[22:01] <coreymon77> crash_: oh, well, i could suggest get a better card :P
[22:01] <zorglu_> i suggest runing it in a virtual box :)
[22:01] <crash_> coreymon77: what can I say man, it was a free laptop.
[22:01] <mckaycr> coreymon77: I can't get 6.06 to upgrade, can I use adept?
[22:01] <crash_> I'll just take it apart and see if I have a better miniPCI card laying arounf
[22:02] <Itaku> on 8.04 how do i change the system beep?
[22:03] <kmorrissey> hello all, has anyone had any experience with Linux Media Center (LinuxMCE)
[22:03] <crash_> *sigh*
[22:03] <crash_> !ndis
[22:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:03] <coreymon77> mckaycr: you cant upgrade from dapper to hardy directly, i dont think
[22:03] <serguma> well
[22:03] <serguma> i'll be on my way
[22:03] <serguma> thank you everyone :)
[22:03] <serguma> dwidmann: thank you :)!
[22:04] <mckaycr> coreymon77: I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to upgrade to 6.10
[22:04] <b3lt3r> can anyone suggest why I cannot open a remote X session displaying back to my Hardy desktop - I have commented out the -nolisten tcp line in kdmrc?
[22:05] <spiroo> Oh please someone help me. I have searched on google for several hours, being kicked from apache channel because I was taking to much place and time from them, And in channel ubuntu-server nobody answer me at all anymore. What have I done to deserve this cruelness. I have not breaking any rule in whatsoever. Please, you are my last hope of glory. I really need my server to work correct :)
[22:06] <spiroo> *webserver
[22:06] <coreymon77> crash_: youre card is a mrv8k
[22:07] <coreymon77> crash_: you need to blacklist the including, non-working driver, and use ndis
[22:07] <astera> hello. has anybody experiences on ubuntu on ASUS A7S?
[22:07] <Bauldrick> trying to turn .m4p files to mp3's - any tips?? I can do .m4a but not m4p
[22:08] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[22:09] <coreymon77> crash_: i hate having to tell people to use ndis as much as you hate using it, but unfortunately, thats the way it is
[22:09] <spiroo> I appreciate the help, thank you guys
[22:10] <coreymon77> i really dont know spiroo
[22:11] <coreymon77> what is your problem, if i know what to do, i will try to help, but, im not sure if i can
[22:11] <spiroo> coreymon77: Do you have time and experience with apache2? If not, you could probably not help me.
[22:11] <coreymon77> spiroo: nope, sorry
[22:12] <astera> there are several probs. the first is i want to use my vmware files in ubuntu. do you know how??
[22:12] <coreymon77> astera: umm, vmware for linux?
[22:12] <spiroo> coreymon77: Its allright. Those who can apache2 cannot help me either. They do not understand what I am trying to do. So I am stucked with myself. I have been trying almost everything.
[22:13] <malte_> my gidness
[22:13] <astera> do i need a licenens for vmware in linux?
[22:13] <JoshOvki> astera: yes
[22:14] <astera> :-))
[22:14] <astera> are there any other options ;-)
[22:14] <spiroo> Honestly, it REALLY sucks to be me. This always happening to me. I do not doing anything wrong, cannot find any solution at all and nobody understand me. Sorry if I feel sorry for myself at the moment. But really, this just stinks so hard.
[22:15] <astera> whats about virtualbox?
[22:15] <spiroo> I feel like a lost morron which nobody can handle at all.
[22:15] <coreymon77> spiroo: this isnt helping
[22:15] <coreymon77> astera: why not use vmware?
[22:15] <algyz> astera:  use vmware server, it's free
[22:16] <JoshOvki> astera: virtualbox is free, although if you do install windows you need to have a licence
[22:16] <astera> because i have no license for linux
[22:16] <JoshOvki> (for the windows bit)
[22:16] <spiroo> coreymon77: I know, but it feels a little better.
[22:16] <coreymon77> astera: vmware player astera
[22:16] <algyz> server :)
[22:16] <algyz> server has more options ;)
[22:16] <coreymon77> either one works
[22:16] <crash_> coreymon77: Ok, HOW do I install and use ndis again?
[22:16] <algyz> And I think it's not very hard to register in their site to get free numbers
[22:16] <astera> vmware player for linux??
[22:17] <Ratshell> Hello anyone here use Kde4 with Compiz-Fusion?
[22:17] <algyz> astera:  vmware server ;)
[22:17] <astera> to use it in ubuntu?
[22:17] <algyz> yea
[22:17] <coreymon77> astera: yup, player is free, open source, and its on apt!
[22:17] <astera> thx
[22:17] <spiroo> coreymon77: The most funny of all time, is that I have been trying to fix this all day long. I should fix my webserver so I could work with my website. And the website need to be done really soon.
[22:17] <algyz> server also
[22:18] <coreymon77> algyz: okay then, i dont do much virtualization on my linux box anyways, i do almost all of it on my dual core macbook
[22:18] <astera> another questions. on my notebook (Asus A7S) i have a TV Tuner, but in ubuntu i can find it. whre can i get driver for that?
[22:19] <algyz> astera:  lshw, maybe you'll see it
[22:19] <astera> ??
[22:19] <bmk789> how do i fix my audio input?
[22:19] <astera> what do you mean?
[22:19] <algyz> astera:  I mean terminal ;)
[22:19] <coreymon77> bmk789: first you have to tell us whats wrong with it
[22:20] <bmk789> im getting no audio input
[22:20] <algyz> !sound | bmk789
[22:20] <ubotu> bmk789: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[22:20] <Berzerker> anyone have some kind of solution for playing iTunes songs on kubuntu?
[22:21] <kaminix> What's a good and simple to use FTP server for Kubuntu?
[22:21] <astera> sorry but I don know what you mean.
[22:21] <kaminix> !ftp
[22:21] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[22:21] <algyz> kaminix:  gproftp
[22:22] <_eMaX_> re
[22:22] <kaminix> algyz: Thank you, I'll try it.
[22:22] <_sourcemaker> i have installed the new hardy on my dad's pc.... the wlan card is not detected... what's wrong?
[22:22] <algyz> kaminix:  gproftpd*
[22:22] <algyz> one letter :)
[22:22] <weswh-> is there a hardware guide for gusty/hardy etc?i can't find it
[22:22] <_sourcemaker> on gusty... the wlan was working fine
[22:23] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: you mean the wifi card?
[22:23] <kaminix> algyz: No other FTP server with a Qt interface perhaps? ^^ Suppose not. :p
[22:23] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77:yes
[22:23] <algyz> kaminix:  this one is good and easy to use ;)
[22:23] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: which card?
[22:23] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: i do not know...
[22:23] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: nothing special
[22:24] <kaminix> algyz: Yeah, I've used proftpd before, never tried the gui though. :)
[22:24] <algyz> kaminix:  apt-cache search ftp, also you can try with synaptic
[22:24] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: integrated ide...
[22:24] <Berzerker> _sourcemaker: sudo update-pciids
[22:24] <Berzerker> _sourcemaker: then lspci
[22:24] <crash_> Heh. everyone should buy coreymon77 a beer. He seems to be the only knowledge source here today :P
[22:24] <kaminix> algyz: Do I want to run it standalone or inetd?
[22:24]  * crash_ buys coreymon77 a frosty adult beverage
[22:24] <coreymon77> crash_: thanks for the offer, but i cant drink yet :P
[22:25] <crash_> I... what?
[22:25] <Berzerker> no one has an answer to my question?
[22:25] <crash_> Who says you cant drink?
[22:25] <Berzerker> US law.
[22:25] <Berzerker> probably.
[22:25] <crash_> piffle
[22:25] <coreymon77> Berzerker: close, but not quite
[22:25] <crash_> I was drinking  before US law permitted it.
[22:25] <_sourcemaker> Berzerker: is's a realteak semiconstructor
[22:26] <_sourcemaker> Berzerker: why are there always so many problems with wifi...
[22:26] <Berzerker> because linux was never meant to support wifi
[22:27] <coreymon77> Berzerker: it works great with me
[22:27] <kaminix> algyz: Never mind, running it inetd ^^
[22:27] <Berzerker> coreymon77: I know it works, but it's not officially supported.
[22:27] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: any idea what the card model is
[22:27] <coreymon77> Berzerker: yes it is, by now
[22:27] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: it's a realtek
[22:27] <Berzerker> My drivers are still restricted.
[22:27] <coreymon77> Berzerker: or else we wouldnt be talking about it here
[22:28] <coreymon77> Berzerker: thats because most companies are arseholes and wont release open source drivers
[22:28] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: realtek what?
[22:28] <kicco> Berzerker: with wich facts do you say this?
[22:28] <kmorrissey> can anyone here help with using linuc media center on kubuntu
[22:28] <kmorrissey> linux*
[22:29] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: 8185
[22:29] <coreymon77> Berzerker: if it wasnt officially supported, we wouldnt be helping you here
[22:30] <Berzerker> yeah, I heard you lol
[22:30] <Berzerker> anyway
[22:30] <Berzerker> I still need to find a solution
[22:31] <kmorrissey> #linuxmce
[22:31] <coreymon77> Berzerker: i thought you got it working?
[22:31] <Berzerker> no
[22:31] <Berzerker> I need to try and run iTunes on linux or something
[22:31] <kicco> Berzerker: tried wine? in which format r then?
[22:31] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: how can I fix the problem that the wlan is detected ?
[22:31] <Berzerker> kicco: no I haven't
[22:32] <Berzerker> hold on
[22:32] <Berzerker> brb
[22:32] <kmorrissey> #pclinuxos
[22:32] <kmorrissey> can anyone help with media center I am new to linux
[22:33] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: is the card detected?
[22:33] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: no...
[22:33] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: that's my problem
[22:33] <kmorrissey> I been trying to migrate to Linux for 2 months now, I dont want windblows but its alot easier to setup!
[22:34] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: give us a sec
[22:34] <kmorrissey> okkk
[22:34] <kicco> _sourcemaker: don't know tour card but tried ndiswrapper?
[22:34] <coreymon77> !patience | kmorrissey
[22:34] <ubotu> kmorrissey: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:34] <coreymon77> kicco: no need, there is a free driver
[22:34] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: I know how to configure wifi cards in linux... but the card is not detected... it's a fresh clean install 5 minutes ago.. on gusty... the wifi has been detected right
[22:34] <Ratshell> Anyone here using Kde4?
[22:34] <kicco> coreymon77: what about dmes when you modprobe it manually?
[22:35] <kicco> dmesg*
[22:35] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker:  okay, does it show up on lspci
[22:35] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: yes...
[22:35] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: and what does iwconfig say?
[22:35] <crash_> !ndis
[22:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:35] <crash_> well that documentation was worthless
[22:36] <crash_> How do I install and configure ndis?
[22:36] <coreymon77> crash_: it usually helps
[22:36] <coreymon77> crash_: give me a sec
[22:36] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: I will try... the pc of my dad's is down stairs :-) 3 minutes
[22:36] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: tell me what iwconfig says
[22:36] <kicco> crash_: apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[22:36] <kmorrissey> ubotu, My attitude supports linux 100% I have been searching the net for two months, I have tried over 10 different distros, I really want to give Linux a real shot I tried 4 years ago and couldnt get it right.  I know your volenteers and I commend you I just want someone to recognise I was asking for help coz in 2 months no one had ever answered me on these chat apps
[22:37] <Berzerker> madwifi worked for me
[22:37] <Berzerker> is anyone using compiz-fusion on hardy?
[22:37] <coreymon77> Berzerker: madwifi is primarily for intel or atheros cards
[22:37] <kicco> yeees!
[22:37] <kicco> coreymon77: was about to say it..
[22:37] <Berzerker> kicco: it's so shotty for me
[22:37] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: i understand, im just a little busy at the moment
[22:37] <kicco> Berzerker: which card?
[22:37] <Berzerker> nvidia 8600M GT
[22:38] <kmorrissey> please take your time I can wait.  Im happy to wait
[22:38] <coreymon77> my opinion is never use ndis unless it is absolutely necessary
[22:38] <kicco> Berzerker: drivers? nvidia-glx-new or sthing like that?
[22:38] <Berzerker> yeah
[22:38] <kicco> Berzerker: xorg.conf? driver is nvidia?
[22:38] <Berzerker> driver is nvidia
[22:38] <Berzerker> yes
[22:39] <coreymon77> crash_: heres what you want
[22:39] <kicco> Berzerker: glx direct rendering?
[22:39] <crash_> coreymon77: complete
[22:39] <kicco> glxinfo i mean
[22:39] <Berzerker> kicco: how do I tell
[22:39] <coreymon77> crash_: go to the wifidocs, and look at the Driver/mrv8k page
[22:39] <coreymon77> crash_: that should help you with your card
[22:39] <crash_> kk
[22:39] <kicco> glxinfo from terminal look at the start of the list
[22:39] <crash_> !wifi
[22:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:40] <Berzerker> direct rendering: Yes
[22:40] <raymears> hy, everyone. i have a problem. it is not really kubuntu related. it is rather a general linux issue: when i try to login, the authentication succeeds but then i get an "unable to cd to 'home/my_user'"
[22:40] <kicco> shit. xserver-xgl installed?
[22:40] <raymears> and i get the prompt again
[22:40] <Berzerker> kicco: dunno lol
[22:41] <cweagans> kmorrissey: what do you need help with?
[22:41] <coreymon77> raymears: apparently your home directory either doesnt exist or is corrupted
[22:41] <raymears> does anyone have any suggestions?
[22:41] <kicco> apt-get install xserver-xgl
[22:41] <Berzerker> apparently not then
[22:41] <kmorrissey> I just want to no if anyone can help with running media center on kubuntu
[22:41] <raymears> coreymon77:  well i can reach it as root, i can see everything in it
[22:41] <kicco> is the processor running high when you use effects?
[22:41] <kmorrissey> LinuxMCE
[22:42] <Berzerker> kicco: I don't know, I switched back to kwin, let me switch again hold on
[22:42] <kmorrissey> The instructions are confusing me with reference to the networking
[22:42] <kmorrissey> Basicaly I understand that I should have a deadicated machine for running LinuxMCE and then network boot my other machines
[22:42] <raymears> coreymon77:  the thing is i installed gentoo on another partition and i played around with the permissions of the kubuntu partition from within gentoo. but i don't believe this to be the issue
[22:43] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: let me guess, you have wifi problems to right?
[22:43] <Berzerker> kicco: no, I changed it to performance mode, but it's still not good
[22:43] <max_> Hello, is anybody know russian channel kubuntu on this channel?
[22:43] <Berzerker> kicco: the title bars on non-focused windows disappear, and I can't drag windows around
[22:43] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: no extension found is the result of iwconfig
[22:43] <max_> on this server*
[22:43] <cweagans> kmorrissey: check your private messages.
[22:43] <kmorrissey> no wifi is fine I figured that out
[22:43] <coreymon77> raymears: your home directory is either non-existent, corrupted, or unable to be accessed by your user due to permissions
[22:44] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: what interfaces were given?
[22:44] <kicco> you should restart X if you installed xgl. how's the cube while rotating i.e.?
[22:44] <kmorrissey> I cant send prv messages its blocked coz Im not registered
[22:44] <cweagans> kmorrissey: ah
[22:44] <Berzerker> kicco: I don't use it
[22:44] <Berzerker> but I'll check
[22:45] <kmorrissey> My question is, if I have a deadicated box for LinuxMCE and network boot the other machines, which one needs the nvidia graphics card in
[22:45] <Berzerker> kicco: looks smooth
[22:45] <cweagans> kmorrissey: probably the one that will connect to your tv (or whatever you are using for a monitor)
[22:45] <raymears> coreymon77: i even did a chgrp -R myusername /home/myusername
[22:45] <kmorrissey> I am using a 32" LCD
[22:45] <ElVirolo> hi all
[22:46] <_sourcemaker> back to gusty... everthink was working fine
[22:46] <cweagans> kmorrissey: are you only using the media center features on one machine?
[22:46] <kmorrissey> and also, does the TV tunner need to be in the CORE machine, or the one at the TV
[22:46] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: the interfaces that were listed, was wlan0, wifi0 or anything like that in the list
[22:46] <ElVirolo> sound on youtube doesn't work, which is strange since pulseaudio isn't installed under kubuntu
[22:46] <kmorrissey> No I want to network around my whole house
[22:46] <kicco> only title bars... which decorator have u installed?
[22:46] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: now... only LO
[22:46] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: there is no wifi interface
[22:47] <cweagans> kmorrissey: I would try installing mythtv on the machines and find some kind of streaming media server
[22:47] <_sourcemaker> coreymon77: is there any missing kernel module... maybe a bug in the new hardy distribution?
[22:47] <kmorrissey> mythtv is a complete nightmere to install
[22:47] <cweagans> kmorrissey: the media center features are cool, but you should start small and work up to a REALLY nice system
[22:47] <cweagans> kmorrissey: ??
[22:47] <kicco> btw: how' linuxmce?
[22:48] <kmorrissey> I agree, but Myth is not for the beginer in Linux
[22:48] <kicco> how's
[22:48] <ElVirolo> ideas anyone?
[22:48] <kmorrissey> The instructions are very tech, and way beyond my skills of linus
[22:48] <kmorrissey> linux*
[22:48] <cweagans> kmorrissey: dude....it's easy:  sudo apt-get install mythtv mythtv-themes
[22:49] <kmorrissey> I wish there website said that!
[22:49] <kicco> kmorrissey: i've been told it was easy...
[22:49] <cweagans> kmorrissey: google is your friend:  http://www.google.com/search?q=mythtv+on+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[22:49] <cweagans> aka: google "mythtv on ubuntu"
[22:49] <cweagans> first link
[22:49] <coreymon77> _sourcemaker: can you type lspci into konsole and put the output on pastebin?
[22:49] <raymears> coreymon77: i just added my user to the root group.... and kde starts up quite nicely. except that i've just blown the whole ubuntu security concept
[22:50] <raymears> to pieces
[22:50] <kmorrissey> really when you get a minute check out there website very complex instructions
[22:50] <kmorrissey> Thank you I will try that
[22:50] <spiroo> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS whos tha man. Now it works, untz untz untz
[22:50] <coreymon77> raymears: apparently the permissions was messed up
[22:50] <raymears> i know.
[22:50] <coreymon77> raymears: fix them and youre fine
[22:50] <raymears> any suggestions on how to fix them
[22:50] <raymears> as i said, i chgrp -R ed my whole home folder
[22:50] <coreymon77> do the opposite of what you did on gentoo
[22:50] <cweagans> kmorrissey: btw, if you are having problems with things like mythtv, I would reccommend spending a little time familiarizing yourself with linux and how EVERYTHING works before you start on a huge networking project like the one you want to do with LinuxMCE
[22:51] <kubuntu> hello dudes
[22:51] <kmorrissey> Thanks for your help, its much appricated.
[22:51] <cweagans> kmorrissey: no problem.
[22:51] <raymears> coreymon77:  HAHA! i have been messing about with gentoo for about... 12 hours.:D
[22:51] <coreymon77> raymears: you asked for a suggestion :P
[22:52] <kmorrissey> Unfortunatly, I need the media center to work inorder to leave windblows behind, we use MS media center very much and if I cant figure it out I will have to revert to MS for a happy household!!!
[22:52] <raymears> well.. yeah. i asked: "can you help me fix my problem?" to which your answer was something like: "fix it!":D
[22:53] <coreymon77> raymears: in other words, i dont know what to do :P
[22:53] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: what do you mean by networking
[22:53] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: what kind of networking are you trying to do
[22:54] <raymears> coreymon77:  not really. i mean, i've got it working for now... but this is an extremly ugly solution. do you know of any reason why my user partition wouldn't get mountet inspite belonging to my group?
[22:54] <raymears> coreymon77: hmm.. i've just had an idea. check the permissions:D
[22:54] <kmorrissey> Ok, I am trying to setup a core system running somesort of media center (maybe LinuxMCE) with 2 further systems, network booting to the media center, and then 2 laptops that authenticate and gain desktop and settings etc from the server
[22:54] <coreymon77> raymears: that would help
[22:55] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: you mean, you want to have 2 computers able to screen share from the first system
[22:56] <Bob190> I'm installing Kubuntu and I need wireless drivers for Hardy
[22:56] <kmorrissey> not screen share, the LinuxMCE website claims you can network boot the system what they call medai directors
[22:56] <kmorrissey> basically making them settop boxes
[22:57] <coreymon77> Bob190: what card?
[22:57] <spiroo> coreymon77: Woho, I solved the problem :D
[22:57] <kmorrissey> but I dont no where to put the high end graphics cards, in the core sever or in the set tops!
[22:58] <coreymon77> spiroo: nice
[22:58] <Bob190> coreymon77, i dunno.
[22:58] <Berzerke1> kicco: xserver-xgl screwed my computer up
[22:58] <kmorrissey> I think some better instruction manuals for Linux apps, would get many more people using it, Im just stubborn thats why I spent two months without any fully working computer
[22:58] <Bob190> i have a dell inpison 1525 laptop.
[22:58] <Berzerke1> kicco: nothing had title bars
[22:58] <Berzerke1> kicco: and I couldn't click to get a textbox focus
[22:58] <Bob190> *inspiron
[22:58] <spiroo> coreymon77: But the solution really stinks. But it does the job anyway :D Thats all that matters. Sometimes it is good to be stubborn :D
[22:59] <coreymon77> Bob190: type lspci in a konsole window for me, will you?
[22:59] <Bob190> coreymon77, i'm currently in windows.
[22:59] <kicco> Berzerke1 :) remove it... apt-get remove xserver-xgl. i have nvidia cards everytwhere and i have it installed
[22:59] <Berzerke1> kicco: I did
[23:00] <coreymon77> oh
[23:00] <kicco> and? what's wrong now?
[23:00] <coreymon77> Bob190: well, i cant really help without knowing what card we are talking about here
[23:00] <Berzerker> kicco: well, I'm back where i started
[23:00] <coreymon77> do you have any way of connecting to the internet in linux, ethernet perhaps?
[23:01] <kmorrissey> another question please.  Has anyone successfully got working an app to run MSN and Yahoo chat, with cam and sound like how msn works
[23:01] <coreymon77> Bob190: could you maybe connect through ethernet
[23:01] <kicco> Berzerker: sorry, i need to be in front of your pc. have you checked x log in /var/log?
[23:01] <JoshOvki> kmorrissey: aMSN ive got all them working on
[23:01] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: i know aps that can do msn and yahoo
[23:02] <JoshOvki> but thats msn only sorry
[23:02] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: amsn should be able to do it
[23:02] <kicco> kmorrissey:  virtualbox :(
[23:02] <Bob190> coreymon77, dell wireless 1395 WLAN mini-card
[23:02] <coreymon77> kmorrissey: maybe pidgin?
[23:02] <kmorrissey> msn is a start thank you
[23:02] <kicco> aMsn does only web/chat for msn
[23:02] <crash_> !ndiswrapper
[23:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:02] <kmorrissey> no pigin and kopex are no good
[23:02] <kicco> kopete is great!
[23:02] <kmorrissey> virtualbox?????
[23:02] <kicco> :(
[23:02] <coreymon77> crash_: no! you dont need ndis most of the time
[23:03] <Berzerker> kicco: I'm not on a PC. XD But nah, it's ok, I'll just stick with kwin until they fix compiz.
[23:03] <kmorrissey> kopete is great I agree but webcam is unprediciable and not with sound
[23:03] <kicco> kmorrissey: i let you imagen what's behind my answer
[23:03] <chrisrogers> !register
[23:03] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[23:03] <spiroo> Does somebody except me get this error when they are closing Kate: "KDEInit could not start /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kate"?
[23:03] <chrisrogers> #userregistration
[23:04] <chrisrogers> does anybody know where the autostart directory is?
[23:04] <aLeSD> I have installed ubuntu ... can I install something to change it in kubuntu+kde4 ?
[23:04] <chrisrogers> i believe so
[23:04] <Berzerker> oh that reminds me
[23:05] <Berzerker> what packages do I need to install to use KDE4
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> aLeSD: yes.... kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[23:05] <Bob190> coreymon77, got that?
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> ^^
[23:05] <chrisrogers> hey nosrednaekim
[23:05] <JoshOvki> aLeSD: you will need to install kubuntu-desktop   (for kde3) and kubuntu-kde4-desktop (for kde4)
[23:05] <coreymon77> Bob190: let me guess, dell inspiron 1501 correct?
[23:05] <aLeSD> nosrednaekim: it's the only one , I need ?
[23:05] <JoshOvki> depending on wat 1 u want
[23:05] <nosrednaekim> chrisrogers: hey.. aren't you the guy with the ATI logout problem?
[23:05] <Berzerker> I'm already on KDE3 in Kubuntu, I just install kubuntu-kde4-desktop then?
[23:05] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: yea why?
[23:05] <Bob190> coreymon77, 1525, actually
[23:06] <kicco> Bob190: lspci from a terminal
[23:06] <chrisrogers> i can't figure out how to register
[23:06] <coreymon77> Bob190: unfortunately, you need to use ndis for this
[23:07] <linuxguymarshall> Where do I get KDE-copiz help?
[23:07] <KhaoticMind> Broadcom 4312 ?
[23:07] <JoshOvki> nosrednaekim: you got that link for chrisrogers book marked or u want me 2 get it?
[23:07] <KhaoticMind> dell 1395
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: I have it marked :)
[23:07] <KhaoticMind> ?
[23:07] <JoshOvki> nosrednaekim: alright :)
[23:07] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: ?!
[23:07] <nosrednaekim> haven't tested it personally though... maybe I should do that first
[23:07] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: do we have a fix
[23:08] <Bob190> coreymon77, don't know how. I'm installing Kubuntu through wubi
[23:08] <JoshOvki> nosrednaekim: i have tested it
[23:08] <chrisrogers> I LOVE WUBI
[23:08] <chrisrogers> lol
[23:08] <kmorrissey> all of a sudden mythtv is easy to install, I thank whoever told me sudo apt-get install mythtv mythtv-themes
[23:08] <coreymon77> KhaoticMind: is the dell wireless 1390 a bcm43xx card?
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> JoshOvki: crap.... bookmark is on the other login... could you give it to him?
[23:08] <linuxguymarshall> chrisrodgers:Dont spam
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: yes, it is
[23:08] <KhaoticMind> coreymon77: aye, all dell are broacdom
[23:08] <chrisrogers> linuxguymarshall: it's chrisrogers no "d"
[23:09] <chrisrogers> hey does anybody know where the autostart directory is?
[23:09] <JoshOvki> chrisrogers: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605      there is a fix for the ATI logout problem in there
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> chrisrogers: for kde? .kde/Autostart
[23:10] <chrisrogers> thanks nosrednaekim
[23:10] <Bob190> coreymon77, is that good?
[23:10] <coreymon77> Bob190: ya, that means we have an easier time
[23:10] <KhaoticMind> JoshOvki:  there is? i've that problem, but it did not fully work...
[23:10] <coreymon77> Bob190: you mind booting into linux
[23:10] <JoshOvki> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/118605/comments/32      that post in particular
[23:10] <Bob190> it's still installing
[23:10] <KhaoticMind> coreymon77: i believe the 1390 is a 4312, as mine 1395
[23:10] <coreymon77> Bob190: we need you in linux in order to do anything
[23:10] <Bob190> and I have no way on the net
[23:11] <coreymon77> Bob190: ethernet?
[23:11] <coreymon77> anyways, i have to go for a bit, sorry all
[23:11] <Bob190> coreymon77, gimmie a minute waiting for the install to finish then i'll be in linux. my friend will be back to talk to you.
[23:11] <KhaoticMind> JoshOvki: nive! will try it!
[23:12] <JoshOvki> KhaoticMind: wont take effect for the first reboot
[23:12] <JoshOvki> but will for the second
[23:12] <Bob190> shoot 1:17:12 remaining...
[23:12] <chrisrogers> how does one install a .patch file
[23:12] <chrisrogers> !.patch
[23:12] <ubotu> Patches are files describing the changes in code to achieve some results.  There are a number of ways these can be produced, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems may provide some useful guidelines.
[23:13] <chrisrogers> that didn't help
[23:13] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: how do i install a .patch file?
[23:13] <ubuntu> Hi
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> chrisrogers: farther down there are instructions for how to do that
[23:16] <chrisrogers> it dosn't tell
[23:16] <Berzerker> how do I access a folder on my HFS volume that's locked?
[23:16] <KhaoticMind> will try it now... brb
[23:16] <chrisrogers> never mind
[23:17] <crash_> !ndis\
[23:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndis\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:18] <crash_> !ndis
[23:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[23:18] <arrrghhh> Jucato, hey i figured out where i put that x11vnc autostart line - it was in the /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession file.  where's the startup file similar to this for gnome/ubuntu?
[23:18] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: installing patch *crosses fingers*
[23:18] <Berzerker> brb
[23:19] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: do i restart now?
[23:20] <pyro17_> restart?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> chrisrogers: I guess
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> pyro17_: yes... it is neccesary in this case :)
[23:22] <arrrghhh> or anyone for that matter... i put a startup entry for x11vnc in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession file so i could use it to login to my machine remotely after a reboot.  how can i set this same functionality on gnome/ubuntu?
[23:22] <davf> how do you change system sounds in hardy heron kubuntu
[23:23] <davf> kde4
[23:23] <arrrghhh> davf, kde 3.5.9 or kde4.0.3?
[23:24] <KhaoticMind> JoshOvki: those steps fixed the logout for me! Thanks! :)
[23:24] <cpk1> davf: system settings then notifications I believe
[23:24] <JoshOvki> KhaoticMind: glad to helo :)
[23:24] <JoshOvki> *help
[23:24] <arrrghhh> davf, yea that's the only place i know, but i'm on 3.5.9
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> arrrghhh: you might get better help in #ubuntu
[23:25] <arrrghhh> nosrednaekim, ok thanks
[23:25] <davf> isn't one
[23:25] <nosrednaekim> davf: systemsetting->notifications
[23:26] <cpk1> davf: yes there is
[23:26] <crash_> well, the NDIS wrapper seems to have installed ok.
[23:26] <coreymon77> crash_: good
[23:26] <crash_> But I cant seem to disable the drivers that installed with the OS
[23:26] <chrisrogers> IT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS
[23:26] <crash_> so ndis cant take over the device
[23:26] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: holey crap it worked
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> crash_: which drivers?
[23:26] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: thank you so much, you have made my whole year
[23:26] <crash_> mrv8k according to the wiki
[23:26] <nosrednaekim> awesome awesome :) thank JoshOvki
[23:26] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: you are a life saver
[23:27] <davf> no only sound card option
[23:27] <coreymon77> crash_: did you blacklist the preinstalled drivers?
[23:27] <KhaoticMind> lol :)
[23:27] <crash_> the wiki had me blasklist it, but it doesnt seem to have gone away
[23:27] <JoshOvki> chrisrogers: glad to help :)
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> davf: oh... sound card?
[23:27] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: if it wasn't for you, i would have given up, i knew i reinstalled Kubuntu for a reason today
[23:27] <coreymon77> crash_: did you unload them?
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> thats in the phonon configs I'd say
[23:27] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: omg you are awsome
[23:27] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: sorry i yelled loud when i was able to log out
[23:27] <cpk1> davf: go to the kmenu, then system settings then under looks and feel there is notifications
[23:28] <crash_> coreymon77: havent got a clue. If the wiki didnt mention it, I didnt do it
[23:28] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: my gf was like "calm down jeez" :D lol
[23:28] <JoshOvki> lol
[23:28] <JoshOvki> well as my work here is done im goin 2 sleep
[23:28] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: ok i'm done
[23:28] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: g'nitde
[23:28] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: should he have to?
[23:28] <JoshOvki> got work in the morning
[23:28] <davf> no only sound card option in systems settings, notifications.
[23:28] <JoshOvki> night all
[23:28] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: *g'nite
[23:28] <chrisrogers> JoshOvki: thanks again
[23:28] <chrisrogers> aww he's gone
[23:28] <coreymon77> crash_: did you blacklist them before you restarted?
[23:28] <chrisrogers> :( i can't thank him enough
[23:29] <coreymon77> chrisrogers: yes you can :p
[23:29] <chrisrogers> nosrednaekim: you brought him to me, thank you as well, i'm going to go enjoy this now
[23:29] <crash_> black listed, installed ndis, the rebooted
[23:29] <chrisrogers> and i have another person to pass this patch on too
[23:29] <chrisrogers> talk to everybody later
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> ok.. bye
[23:30] <ForzaPalermo> anyone know how to get azurueus 64bit (from their website) working kubuntu 64
[23:30] <ForzaPalermo> ive already download sun java from adept
[23:30] <cpk1> davf: I think you are looking in the sound menu, not the notifications menu
[23:30] <ForzaPalermo> i cant get it to run :(
[23:31] <davf> cpk1 ok where exactly is that.
[23:32] <cpk1> davf: in the system settings menu, should be the first row, under the "looks and feel" header
[23:32] <davf> Yes I went there, says applications tab and one entry under title.
[23:33] <davf> which doesn't do anything when I click on it.
[23:33] <davf> event source: = phonon: kde multimedia library
[23:33] <crash_> gar stupid wifi
[23:33] <crash_> how the heck do I disable the Kubuntu built in driver
[23:34] <coreymon77> crash_: sorry, im a little busy right now
[23:34] <davf> awww!!!!! I understand....
[23:34] <davf> Thanks, I found it. I needed to change the event source.
[23:34] <crash_> coreymon77: No worries. Was a general rant while I research, not a specific request :)
[23:36] <nosrednaekim> crash_: run "sudo lshw" find your wireless chip. look at the associated driver. put "blacklist drivername" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" reboot
[23:36] <|neon|> e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx
[23:37] <davf> Ok, I want to remove the sound that plays when you enter an box like a password box. Anyone know what it is called?
[23:37] <Deepthought> is there a way in Kopete to stop the chatmember-list from always (re-) appearing at login ?  (I get tired of having to switch it off in the menu everytime and for every channel)
[23:38] <cpk1> davf: new dialogue under the kwin source?
[23:38] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: just readjust the size...
[23:38] <nosrednaekim> to nothing
[23:39] <crash_> nosrednaekim: yeah, Ive done that and was puzzling over the results. there doesnt seem to BE a driver associated with it
[23:39] <Berzerker> coreymon77: I got it working
[23:39] <coreymon77> Berzerker: nice
[23:39] <Berzerker> but I only could transfer the M4A files
[23:39] <Deepthought> nosrednaekim: that won' t work, there' s a minimum size where it stops...
[23:39] <Berzerker> whcih is most of my songs anyway
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> crash_: pastebin?
[23:39] <Berzerker> the important ones, so I'm good.
[23:39] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: you're right.
[23:39] <crash_> !pastebin
[23:39] <kmorrissey> Hi again, well MythTV is upan running, thanks everyone.
[23:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: yeah... mine doesn't show partitipants by default
[23:40] <Deepthought> nosrednaekim: not kopete then ?   or some hiddwn setting ?
[23:40] <crash_> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64774/
[23:40] <kmorrissey> Another issues, I cant seem to find an answer to is my hp laserjet 1600, it works, but its printing of colours is terrible, very dark and grainy any ideas please
[23:41] <andres> hola
[23:41] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: I'm not sure... it has never shown that window for me (yeah,kopete kde4)
[23:42] <Deepthought> oh, 4  this is kde 3.9   Maybe I should try the kde4 kopete then ?   I have the kde4 runtime, so it should work, right ?
[23:42] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: iirc kde4 is kde3.9 since its not final
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: yeah.. should.
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> gnomefreak: I think he menat 3.5.9
[23:43] <gnomefreak> ah
[23:43] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: indeed I do, correction
[23:43] <gnomefreak> if you have kde libs it should work
[23:43] <gnomefreak> for 4 it should work
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> Deepthought: though, warning, kopete-kde4 does not work with IRC or Jabber
[23:43] <coreymon77> Deepthought: 42
[23:44] <Berzerker> how can I check load from different processes
[23:44] <davf> cpk1 sorry i don't exactly know what you mean.
[23:44] <Bauldrick> how can i convert .m4p files to .mp3
[23:44] <crash_> nosrednaekim: did you see that pastebin?
[23:44] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: ahaaaa... that solves my strange bug I had earlier...  I had kopete kde4, for some reason I don' t quite get, and things got mixed up...  Then on each irc acces x crashed.. could that be it ?
[23:45] <chris32882> is there anyway to move the pop-up window when a user sings on  for kopete?
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> crash_: apparently, there is no accociated driver
[23:45] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: maybe it would depends on the backtrace
[23:45] <chris32882> signs*
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> chris32882: I'm not aware of any
[23:45] <crash_> so ndiswan hasnt taken over either?
[23:45] <crash_> frack
[23:46] <cpk1> davf: so using the pull down menu for event source select the kde window manager and then look in there for "new dialog" which is I think the the noise you want to turn off
[23:46] <cpk1> !lvm
[23:46] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[23:46] <chris32882> alright thanks, just in an odd place kinda would like it above the task bar when it pops up
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> crash_: does "ndiswrapper -l" (thats a small L) list anything
[23:46] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: one little thing: if it doesn' t work in IRC, then how can it 'not show chatlist'  then /   That doesn' t make sense...
[23:47] <Deepthought> coreymon77: beware of mice
[23:47] <xago> Hey people...I need to get a channel in spanish for kubuntu....who can tell me?
[23:47] <nosrednaekim> !es
[23:47] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:47] <coreymon77> Deepthought: lol
[23:47] <xago> ubotu: thanks!!!
[23:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks!!! - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:47] <davf> cpk1 ok, the sound is made when the box disappears.
[23:47] <edward_> I keep getting these messages popping up all over the place from KopeteKDE4 and I disabled bubbles but it failed toget rid of these
[23:47] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: i would have to look at it before i can say why. maybe mixed up libs not running the 4.0 libs that are needed with 4.0 kopete?
[23:47] <crash_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64776/
[23:48] <edward_> they're little boxes that keep popping up every time i get sent a message
[23:48] <davf> cp1k but this is definately the area though.
[23:48] <edward_> ooh here we go, sorry to bother you
[23:48] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: are you talking about myg bug now ?   or the chatlist thing ?
[23:48] <cpk1> davf: then maybe "delete dialog" either way, I would look around in the kde window manager area, since the sound is probably coming from that
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> crash_: and "iwconfig" isn't showing a wireless device?
[23:48] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: can be both i assume ive never had your chatlist bug
[23:49] <crash_> nosrednaekim: It is not listing any wireless device.
[23:49] <davf> cpk1 I think I found it "Window Unmaximize" thanks for the help.
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> crash_: uhhg , thats nasty. never seen that before
[23:49] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: no wait, we' re getting mixed up here, there' s no bug wih the chatlist, I just want it out of the way, but it always reappear if I start kopete anew
[23:50] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: ah im not sure i dont use kopete anymore :(
[23:50] <crash_> hence my frustration :P
[23:50] <edward_> Okay, I still failed. How do I get rid of annoying messages popping up from KopeteKDE4 whenever somebody sends me a message?I
[23:50] <nosrednaekim> edward_: kopete->settings->configure notifications
[23:51]  * gnomefreak sorry im all over 20 channels and noone but this channel is letting me go cook
[23:51] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: the bug was x resetting at opening an IRC-channel, and since you said kopete for kde4 doesn' t work with irc I made the connection
[23:51] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: what do you use then ?
[23:51] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: for irc i use irssi
[23:51] <crash_> nosrednaekim: is it possible that lspci misidentified the chipset?
[23:51] <gnomefreak> for aim i use pdgin but im on aim for 5 minutes a year
[23:51] <|neon|> e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx
[23:51] <Deepthought> gnomefreak: does that have other protocols too ?   or just IRC ?
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> crash_: I very much doubt it
[23:52] <gnomefreak> Deepthought: just irc
[23:52] <edward_> nosrenaekim: thanks
[23:52] <Deepthought> hm, would not be for me, I like to keep track of all IM-stuff at once.
[23:52] <crash_> nosrednaekim: faulty cardbus drivers?
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> crash_: thats definately possible
[23:54] <crash_> this doesnt make any sense
[23:58] <crash_> !disable
[23:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about disable - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:58] <|neon|> e-sata hard drive it get reconginze but i have to go into settings/advance/disk&filesystem to mounted enable it everytime i reboot how can i make mount auto once i connect it? thx
[23:59] <crash_> How do I disable drivers again?
[23:59] <SlimeyPete> there's a blacklist in /etc/modprobe.d iirc