[00:02] <pck-chem> Could anyone on Bug-Control set https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/221112 status to Triaged? or tell me why it shouldn't be? I'm learning.
[00:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 221112 in rhythmbox "Can't use space bar in search bar when using french alternative keyboard" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[00:06] <pck-chem> I'd also ask that you set importance to low, or again at least explain to me what is correct. Thanks!
[00:10] <macabro22> secretlondon: ok, done. Thanks
[00:10] <secretlondon> macabro22 which bug number?
[00:11] <macabro22> secretlondon: 222801
[00:12] <secretlondon> bug #222801
[00:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 222801 in update-manager "hardy upgrade crashes at "preparing upgrade" " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222801
[00:12] <secretlondon> if you type in bug # and then the number the bot fetches it
[00:13] <macabro22> cool
[00:14] <macabro22> Did I report the bug properly?
[00:22] <secretlondon> macabro22 I'm looking at the bug
[00:23] <secretlondon> macabro22, could you attach your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:23] <secretlondon> you have lots of broken dependencies
[00:24] <secretlondon> could be the mirror you are using
[00:28] <macabro22> secretlondon: sure
[00:32] <secretlondon> macabro22, you also have an old version of update-manager
[00:33] <secretlondon> or maybe not, maybe that is the latest in gutsy
[00:37] <macabro22> secretlondon: yeah... I have everything updated. I hope at least
[00:37] <secretlondon> you have 2 unsupported repositories
[00:38] <secretlondon> the multimedia one could potentially break stuff depending on what's in there
[00:38] <secretlondon> but I think your best bet is to try with a different mirror
[00:42] <macabro22> secretlondon: should I comment out those lines before trying to upgrade?
[00:42] <secretlondon> yes I'd do that first
[00:42] <secretlondon> but it could be that the mirror you are using is out of date
[00:42] <macabro22> ok.. I will do that later, thanks.
[00:42] <secretlondon> I don't recognise the name of it, is there are official ubuntu mirror in brazil?
[00:43] <macabro22> I am not sure. I will just use the american one
[00:43] <macabro22> I gtg
[00:43] <secretlondon> ok
[00:43] <macabro22> thanks for the help
[00:43] <secretlondon> np
[00:43] <secretlondon> please update if fixed
[00:43] <macabro22> Sure
[00:43] <ffm> secretlondon, What other info should I ask for?
[00:43] <secretlondon> ffm for the openoffice bug?
[00:44] <ffm> secretlondon, mhm.
[00:45] <secretlondon> i'm not sure
[00:45] <secretlondon> it could be that they are trying to save to somewhere that doesn't exist
[00:45] <secretlondon> I don't know where the default saving location is set
[00:50] <secretlondon> I have a 5-a-day error, 103?
[00:52] <secretlondon> and now a crash..
[01:33] <calc> gah more than 30 bug mails just since noon :\
[01:34] <secretlondon> bah
[01:35] <crimsun> 30?  that would have been a slow day for me :/
[01:47] <calc> crimsun: that is for ~ 6-7hrs
[01:47] <calc> crimsun: so multiply by 3-4 to get a full days worth, if they continue at this rate :\
[02:25] <ffm> Should I set bugs like Bug #222850 as incomplete?
[02:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 222850 in firefox-3.0 "I can't login in gmail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222850
[03:24] <calc> anyone know how to extract info from a ttf font that identifies it?
[03:32]  * calc used fontforge to open the font
[04:30] <crimsun> calc: yeah, I remember those flood days.
[05:48] <kristian42> i'm trying to track #218434 to a module. It was introduced 3-4 days before 8.04 release, and I have a few ideas about which modules it could be. Is there any kind of changelist available for ubuntu as a whole ?
[05:50] <persia> kristian42: There's an overview of uploaded changelogs available from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2008-April/thread.html (and other months).  This might help determine which packages were changed on a given date.
[05:50] <persia> Note that the mailing list tracks source changes, for binary updates, check your logs (/var/log/dpkg.log) to see what was updated when.
[05:52] <kristian42> thanks
[05:59] <calc> i don't know if my system is representative of all Vista machines, but i think the reason users aren't seeing the load cycle count on vista is that it constantly reads/writes a lot of data to the drive
[05:59] <calc> i left it alone for an hour and it was still doing crap
[06:00] <calc> so maybe the solution would be a vistaiod that would emulate vista's high i/o load ;-)
[06:04] <persia> Isn't that what trackerd is supposed to do?
[06:06] <calc> persia: it only does that for a short time then behaves
[06:06] <calc> persia: vista never stops writing/reading the disk, like forever
[06:06] <calc> for the first 15m or so that it was booted it was doing a constant 10MB/s+
[06:06] <persia> Ah.  That wasn't my experience, but maybe I didn't wait long enough.
[06:07] <calc> even when it slowed down it was still doing 0.5-1MB/s constantly
[06:07]  * calc thinks vista is a big pos
[06:49] <lucent> how... I can't find the answer so I'm going to ask here:  How to install Ubuntu server on RAID1 md ?
[06:49] <lucent> is that a work in progress, a bug, what?
[07:33] <CrippledCanary> how do I get anyone else to look at bug #221973?
[07:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 221973 in smstools "smstools folder under /var/run isn't recreated after reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221973
[07:34] <CrippledCanary> i have filed a debdiff patch and subscribed motu-sru but should I do something else
[07:37] <persia> CrippledCanary: At this point, you're waiting for a member of the sru team to approve, and then you'll need a sponsor to upload.  When you get the approval, subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug.
[07:42] <CrippledCanary> ok... thanks
[08:40] <iulian> G'morning
[10:36] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there. I think that it's time to tackle bug #49594
[10:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 49594 in gnome-session "Bonobo-activation-server sometimes is not killed after session restart, leading to many unexpected problems" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49594
[10:36] <ralph> Hi, how does one link a launchpad bug to a bug in an external bug tracker?  Bug #210890 is the one in question.  See the comment I've just added.
[10:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 210890 in grep "egrep -o '^..' Doesn't Match Start of Line Correctly." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210890
[10:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> gnome has been suffering from this problem since version 2.0: sometimes you can't login, or you log in and your settings are not applied
[10:42] <ralph> Ah, I see, Also affects Project.    I think I've done it right.  Bug #210890.
[10:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 210890 in grep "egrep -o '^..' Doesn't Match Start of Line Correctly." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/210890
[13:41] <qwertyface> Hi, I'd like some help triaging a bug
[13:42] <qwertyface> I'm affected by #215753 in Hardy, which is currently marked as new
[13:43] <qwertyface> Can I just change it's status to confirmed?
[14:00] <lucent> bug #215753
[14:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 215753 in ubuntu "Remapped Caps Lock key toggles Caps Lock light" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/215753
[14:01] <qwertyface> I suspect that the correct package for it is gnome-settings-daemon
[14:27] <james_42> qwertyface:  Is you bug similar to bug #173350?  The descriptions sound similar.
[14:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 173350 in gnome-control-center "Caps lock LED changes state even when caps lock is mapped to ctrl" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173350
[14:31] <qwertyface> james_42: Yes, that looks a lot like it.  I wonder how that didn't come up when I searched
[14:32] <qwertyface> I'll mark #215752 as a duplicate of that one
[14:32] <james_42> I actually found that through goggle
[14:33] <james_42> I'm reading through the rather long comments list, and it sounds like theres a work around, but that the bug has not been fixed yet.
[14:37] <qwertyface> james_42: I'm a programmer with a few hours to spare and an interest in seeing it fixed.  My C isn't up to much, but I can use a debugger.
[14:37] <qwertyface> Do you think I could help with it?
[14:45] <james_42> I imagine so, I'm just starting out helping with bugs myself  Have you looked at the helping with bugs page listed in the title of this channel?
[14:47] <james_42> reading of the comments of the older bug, this looks like a bug in Xorg server
[14:48] <qwertyface> I've looked at that page, yeah
[14:49] <qwertyface> The gnome bug suggests that the xorg bug may already be fixed upstream
[14:49] <james_42> I'm sure that if you con at least find out more specifically the bug is, someone will be able to help you get the bug patch included...
[14:50] <james_42> really? if the upstream is fixed, then as long as Ubuntu is using the fixed version, everything should be fine here...
[15:01] <james_42> Ya, I just found where they mention that they fix it should be fixed...
[15:01] <james_42> however, it doesn't look like anyone has check whether it was fixed upstream or not
[15:13] <qwertyface> I'm looking through the x.org bugzilla to find a report of the problem
[15:15] <james_42> me too :-)
[15:21] <bddebian> Boo
[15:25] <james_42> qwertyface: I found some that looked the same, but weren't.  Hope you have better luck
[15:28] <qwertyface> james_42: I'm doing some washing atm, so I haven't got far
[15:43] <james_42> qwertyface:  I was actually washing some dishes when i realised that I may have been searching the wrong Xorg bug tracker
[15:51] <julius> Hello
[15:52] <julius> I've found a bug about tomboy and I'm wondering if I have to report it on Launchpad or on Bugzilla. Maybe It's a problem with the ubuntu package... I don't know. Can you tell me please ?
[15:53] <persia> julius: If you aren't sure, please report in Launchpad.  Someone else will take a look if it is also upstream, and other people with the bug will see yours when they file.
[15:53] <qwertyface> james_42: are you looking in the freedesktop one?
[15:53] <qwertyface> That's where I'm looking
[15:54] <persia> If you have time, and want to investigate to try to understand the cause, and it ends up being upstream, Launchpad can link to the upstream bug, so it can track in which releases of Ubuntu the bug gets fixed.
[15:56] <julius> persia, thank you very much ! I'm going to report this bug right now
[15:57] <james_42> qwertyface: Ya I think I was looking in the freedesktop one too
[15:58] <lucent> some bugs are unfixable
[15:59] <lucent> like making usplash work on *everyone's* PC
[15:59] <lucent> never going to happen.
[15:59] <persia> No bug is unfixable.  Sometimes fixing is worse than not fixing.  Sometimes bugs are very, very, very hard.
[16:00] <lucent> persia: you can't make usplash work on everyone's PC, because there are popular combinations of monitor and graphics card, and not even to mention the BIOS settings... it is a mess
[16:00] <persia> lucent: Right.  That's in the class of very, very, very hard.
[16:01] <lucent> I just wrapped through making it work on my mom's computer
[16:01] <lucent> there's 5-6 different bugs filed and they all say the same thing, it doesn't work, here's how "I" made it work, and there you go
[16:01] <lucent> solve it one place, it breaks the other place
[16:01] <james_42> qwertyface: I think we were both looking in the right place, freedesktop...but it doesn't seem to be there....
[16:02] <lucent> persia: maybe it's not a bug, it's a known platform issue
[16:03] <persia> That would be a bug.
[16:03] <lucent> a bug with no reasonable prospect of closing ;P
[16:03] <persia> Fixing it requires adding significant quirk handling to usplash.  This makes usplash bigger and slower.  It might be a case of fixing being worse than not fixing, but I've not investigated enough, and still believe it's only very, very, very hard.
[16:04] <lucent> heh
[16:04] <persia> On the other hand, sometimes it's useful to have bugs like that open.  Another example is the gnome-phone-manager bug about it not working with $phone.
[16:05] <persia> This is always a case of upstream not having the right data to recognize the phone, but because the bug remains open, people see it as a possible dup when filing, see that they need to file their phone upstream, and it typically works on their phone for the next release (or the one thereafter).
[16:05] <lucent> I can't tell on this term, is that env var {phone} or "ess-phone"
[16:07] <persia> variable phone.
[16:07] <lucent> dig it, okay.
[16:07] <lucent> I do think bug #1 is fixable though
[16:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[16:10] <Stefan1800> hi. i updated ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 and now the kernel hangs on boot during SATA/CDROM/SCSI detection. if i wait some time, i get a busybox commandline.
[16:11] <qwertyface> james_42: Maybe I should try to hassle someone in an x.org IRC channel, see if anyone knows where the fix was applied
[16:14] <james_42> qwertyface:  I think you'll need to poke someone at the x.org channel.  I did a search off all bugs, in all products looking for capslock, and couldn't find anything
[16:18] <james_42> qwertyface:  I need to be heading off, I hope you can get this bug resolved
[16:18] <qwertyface> james_42: thanks very much for your help.
[16:18] <qwertyface> It's appreciated
[16:56] <stephaneguedon> hello
[16:57] <stephaneguedon> I wish to report a bug
[16:57] <stephaneguedon> but there is multiples implications
[16:57] <stephaneguedon> in multiples softwares
[16:58] <stephaneguedon> anyone can say me what I can do ?
[16:59] <stephaneguedon> the problem concern smb clients with ubuntu hardy
[17:01] <stephaneguedon> smb4k don't work
[17:01] <stephaneguedon> konqueror doesn't work too
[17:03] <stephaneguedon> where can I report the bug correctly (it is not konqueror !)
[17:03] <stephaneguedon> ?
[17:16] <qense> hello
[17:17] <stephaneguedon> hello
[17:17] <stephaneguedon> hello qense
[17:18] <stephaneguedon> are you a develloper for U ?
[17:18] <qense> U?
[17:18] <stephaneguedon> ubuntu
[17:18] <qense> no
[17:18] <qense> I'm a Bug Triager :)
[17:18] <stephaneguedon> ok
[17:18] <stephaneguedon> triager ?
[17:19] <stephaneguedon> hello Captain Morgan
[17:19] <qense> I check if bugs are valid and complete enough to pass on to the actual developers
[17:20] <stephaneguedon> quense > so you can help me maybe !
[17:20] <qense> ok
[17:20] <qense> what's your question?
[17:20] <stephaneguedon> do you know there is a problem on the smb clients in hardy ?
[17:21] <qense> I'm not really into smb, I work more with other packages
[17:21] <stephaneguedon> hum
[17:21] <stephaneguedon> ok
[17:22] <stephaneguedon> where can I report this bug if you know ?
[17:22] <qense> you can report bugs at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[17:22] <stephaneguedon> because it concern multiples applications I think
[17:22] <qense> ok
[17:23] <stephaneguedon> konqueror, maybe nautilus, smb4k
[17:23] <qense> if you're not sure what's the exact cause, please describe the problem as detailed as possible in a bug report and we will help you out
[17:23] <stephaneguedon> here, or in the bugs.launchpad ?
[17:23] <qense> bugs.launchpad.net
[17:24] <stephaneguedon> ok
[17:26] <qense> How is hardy doing atm? Did any major bugs were still open or reported after the release last friday?
[17:27] <stephaneguedon> you mean the hardy upgrade ?
[17:27] <stephaneguedon> I have made it yesterday
[17:28] <stephaneguedon> via adept-manager
[17:28] <stephaneguedon> in the rigth way
[17:28] <stephaneguedon> it's not devellopements packages...
[17:29] <stephaneguedon> I don't read similary bug in launchpad
[17:29] <stephaneguedon> I will write it
[17:31] <qense> well, I was asking everyone here :) I was just curious
[17:54] <stephaneguedon> I have done comment in two bugs reports...
[17:58] <qense> ok
[17:58] <qense> now you'll just have to wait for a reply :)
[18:01] <stephaneguedon> I quit
[18:01] <stephaneguedon> tanks
[18:01] <stephaneguedon> and have a nice day
[18:38] <marnanel> What is standard operating procedure here?  Someone has got themselves subscribed to a bug I'm working on, and left a message in Portuguese which apparently says "Don't send me any more of this; I don't speak English and I don't know why you're sending me this stuff.  I am annoyed and I'm having to classify it all as spam! DAMMIT!!!"
[18:38] <marnanel> But I don't speak any Portuguese.
[18:38]  * marnanel thinks working on Launchpad stuff should make me learn a lot more languages...
[18:40] <hggdh> secretlondon: good afternoon; were you able to find anything on the bloody e-d-s loop?
[18:40] <secretlondon> hggdh, well putting one of them to 60 didn't make a difference
[18:40] <hggdh> marnanel: what bug?
[18:40] <secretlondon> as I got it when I logged in
[18:40] <hggdh> secretlondon: and putting both of them at 60?
[18:41] <secretlondon> hggdh, not tried, and I'm supposed to be at a lug curry event in an hour
[18:41] <marnanel> hggdh: bug 221144
[18:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 221144 in gnome-terminal "After upgrading to hardy, gnome-terminal windows are not properly restored on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/221144
[18:41] <secretlondon> hggdh, so I'll try that later and let you know
[18:41] <hggdh> secretlondon: no hurry, just curious. And I am really glad for all your help :-)
[18:42] <secretlondon> I really want this thing fixed!
[18:42]  * marnanel considers suggesting to the philly loco that it should have curry events
[18:42] <secretlondon> I get it 90% of logins!
[18:46] <hggdh> marnanel: yes, he subscribed himself, it seems, and does not know enough English to unsubscribe. I added a note for him. I Also asked him to maintain a bit more of respect and education.
[18:47] <hggdh> secretlondon: and I get it never :-( life is not fair
[18:48] <secretlondon> hggdh, I think not getting bugs is generally a good thing
[18:48] <hggdh> secretlondon: I agree, but if I had this one I would probably have a solution by now...
[18:49] <hggdh> at least, I hope
[18:49] <secretlondon> yeah, maybe you need to find some older hardware (if you have some)
[18:51] <hggdh> I do have a single-cpu at home (currently powered off), but I have been on the road for the last 3 months :-(
[18:52] <secretlondon> :(
[18:52] <secretlondon> you're in France?
[18:52] <hggdh> yes, Paris. Nice city, and all of that, but I miss my family and my dogs
[18:52] <secretlondon> I bet
[18:56] <hggdh> marnanel: also (sorry, I forgot to *really* read your initial question) the SOP is to advise the unhappy subscriber to unsubscribe and maintain decorum. Of course, not knowing the language to do that makes it a bit more difficult
[18:58] <JohnPhy1> is it possible to disable pulseaudio?
[18:58] <hggdh> k. So, now, I will return to the hotel bar and to my bordeaux. Cheers, saúde, la haim, prost, etc.
[18:58] <marnanel> hggdh: Thank you.  I will go and try and find someone who speaks pt to translate that
[18:58] <hggdh> marnanel: already done
[18:58] <hggdh> I do speak pt
[19:02] <marnanel> hggdh: oh :) sorry, I didn't realise.  Thank you so muh!
[19:02] <marnanel> +c
[19:11] <secretlondon> goes for curry
[19:22] <zyx386> what is about this bug in Hardy? 191889
[19:25] <ompaul> 223175
[19:25] <ompaul> now thats a show stopper
[19:26]  * ompaul watches people run away ;-)
[19:29] <zyx386> _?
[19:30] <ffm> Someone care to triage/set priority of bug #218492? It currently causes upgrades to fail if the package is installed.
[19:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 218492 in phpbb2 "Hardy Upgrade freezes on phpbb2-conf-mysql " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218492
[19:42] <afflux> hi
[19:42] <qense> hello
[20:11] <CaptainMorgan> please point me to where to report bugs... or find them for that matter... I had the link but I've since lost it....
[20:13] <qense> http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ;)
[20:19] <warren_> hi, can someone look at my request, Bug #223223
[20:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 223223 in hardy-backports "Update KMess" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223223
[20:45] <sbarjola> hi, when a bug reported says that last update solve the problem,.. set to Invalid?
[20:46] <greg-g> sbarjola: which bug?
[20:49] <sbarjola> bug 204491
[20:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 204491 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "Lost sound after upgrading from Fiesty to Hardy Alpha 6 w/ motherboard (ECS K7S5A) based sound SiS 735 chipset" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204491
[20:50] <greg-g> sbarjola: yeah, invalid for that one
[20:50] <greg-g> sbarjola: thanks!
[20:51] <sbarjola> ok
[20:52] <greg-g> sbarjola: when I mark bugs as invalid like that I usually put a comment like "Since the reporter of the bug stated the problem is fixed with latest update I am closing this bug."
[20:54] <sbarjola> thanks, I comment with something similar
[20:56] <greg-g> no problem
[22:40] <Invert314> i suppose drawing attention here to the bug that's preventing me from installing hardy won't eliminate the bug any sooner?
[22:40] <Invert314> actually a work around would be really nice
[22:41] <howapt> It would probably help to mention the bug
[22:41] <Invert314> oh?
[22:41]  * howapt nods
[22:42] <Invert314> fdisk, TestDisk and nautilus see all 6 of my partitions, while ubiquity and gparted see only one hard disc
[22:42] <Invert314> here is the launch pad link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parted/+bug/209974
[22:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 209974 in parted "Xubuntu Hardy live installer doesn't detect HDD partitions" [High,New]
[22:42] <Invert314> here is my forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766355
[22:42]  * Invert314 = Drone4four
[22:43] <howapt> you tried asking in #ubuntu ?
[22:43]  * Invert314 is dying to jump back into Ubuntu so he can show off compiz-fusion git master to his family and friends when he moves back home tomorrow lolol
[22:43] <Invert314> howapt, yes
[22:44] <Invert314> 2 ppl said "strange"
[22:44]  * howapt pretends he didnt think it
[22:44] <Invert314> howapt, are you a developer?
[22:45] <howapt> no but I often fantasise about being one
[22:45] <howapt> does that help?
[22:45] <Invert314> i fantasize about being a compiz-fusion and e17 developer
[22:45] <Invert314> howapt, can you at least commit bug fixes?
[22:45] <howapt> alas, I cannot
[22:45] <Invert314> aww, me2
[22:46] <Invert314> we're in the same boat
[22:49] <calc> heh e17
[22:49] <calc> thats been in development for what 10 years? :)
[22:49]  * calc thinks duke nukem forever will be out before e17 final
[22:50] <howapt> I thought e17 made the original Worms game
[22:51] <Invert314> calc, are you an Ubuntu  developer?
[22:51] <calc> thats team17
[22:51] <calc> Invert314: yea
[22:51] <calc> howapt: sorry forgot to reference you wrt team17
[22:51] <howapt> haha, team17, good times...
[22:51] <calc> but yea i think e16 came out probably around the time worms did ;-)
[22:52] <Invert314> cool - did you take a look at my launchpad link? can you think of a work around?
[22:52] <calc> and e17 final still isn't out yet ;-)
[22:52] <calc> Invert314: looking at it now
[22:52] <Invert314> sweet =D
[22:52] <Invert314> e17 is stable imho
[22:52] <Invert314> every now and then a window pops in and out of existence, but it never crashes
[22:52] <Invert314> e17 is way more stable than compiz fusion
[22:54] <calc> Invert314: colin watson or evan d is the most likely person to be able to fix it
[22:55] <calc> Invert314: the post about it thinking the drive was a loop file is probably the issue
[22:55] <calc> Invert314: at least if that is why it happens every time it shows up like that anyway
[22:55] <Invert314> hmmm, do you think it would be alright for me to message colin watson or evan d?
[22:55] <Invert314> do colin and evan hang out on irc?
[22:56]  * calc wouldn't be surprised if compiz seems unstable partially because x apps aren't all coded to standard (like *cough* OOo)
[22:56] <calc> Invert314: colin is cjwatson evan is evand
[22:56] <Invert314> on irc?
[22:56] <calc> Invert314: yes
[22:56] <calc> i don't know if either would be around right now though
[22:56] <Invert314> do they hang out in this channel or #ubuntu-devel?
[22:57] <howapt> cant you just /msg him?
[22:57] <calc> probably both
[22:57] <calc> evand is at least online right now, not sure if he is idle
[22:57] <calc> he is in #ubuntu-devel
[22:58] <Invert314> if they were to fix the problem, would i have to wait until intrepid to use Ubuntu again?
[22:58] <calc> Invert314: if they fix it they may respin a disk, not really sur
[22:58] <calc> or they may wait for 8.04.1 which will be in about a month
[22:59] <calc> but they would probably give you a test disc or something to verify the fix actually works as well that you could use to install
[23:02] <Invert314> thanks calc for doing giving me these pointers and such
[23:02] <Invert314> minus doing
[23:02] <calc> np :)
[23:23]  * calc sees debian is up to its political/cabalish self, i'm so glad i don't maintain anything directly in debian anymore :-\
[23:24]  * calc thinks ubuntu's main improvement isn't its 6mo release cycle but the lack of that crap
[23:34] <mohbana> oh my god
[23:40] <mdke> hi
[23:41] <mdke> I noticed a user is opening a lot of duplicates via apport; and haven't any time left before bed to continue going through and checking them / marking them as duplicates
[23:41] <mdke> if anyone has the inclination, the bug I've chosen to use as the parent bug is bug 223324
[23:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 223324 in scrollkeeper "package gnome-user-guide 2.22.0+svn20080407ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223324
[23:41] <mdke> and the list of potential duplicates is at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~theheavensblade/
[23:42] <mdke> thanks for any help
[23:44] <iulian> Sure, will take a look.
[23:45] <mdke> thanks, gnight
[23:47] <iulian> Good night.
[23:47] <mohbana> hey guys
[23:48] <mohbana> emergency question,i get random logouts
[23:48] <mohbana> where can i find a log
[23:49] <pochu> mohbana: look at /var/log/gdm/\:0.log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and ~/.xsession-errors
[23:52] <mohbana> ok pochu i think i've found it can you look at it?
[23:53] <mohbana> pochu: it says 'Fatal server error:
[23:53] <mohbana> , Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[23:53] <mohbana> ' any idea?
[23:54] <mohbana> pochu: thanks alot
[23:54] <mohbana> http://pastebin.com/m2832e344
[23:56] <mohbana> cat  /var/log/gdm/\:0.log.1
[23:56] <mohbana>  ... something also very similar, http://pastebin.com/m3754276.  someone please help :(, it just randomly logouts especially when using firefox