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santiago-ve | hi guys, any of you is experiencing "strange" system freezes? | 01:10 |
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Serega | hey | 08:27 |
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Serega | Riddell: hey, how about to write gdebi for KDE4 on C++? | 10:07 |
Riddell | Serega: why? | 10:07 |
Serega | Riddell: personally, I feel more comfortable with C++ and tend to performance (minor) | 10:08 |
Serega | Riddell: it's not a problem wit python, just a proposal | 10:08 |
Serega | *with | 10:08 |
Riddell | seems like an awful lot of work porting a pygtk app to c++ | 10:10 |
Serega | aaaagh.... | 10:10 |
Serega | Riddell: I forgot it's multiface... | 10:11 |
Serega | question is disappeared :) | 10:11 |
* comm_a_nder wishes kvim fpr kde4 | 10:17 | |
comm_a_nder | *g* | 10:17 |
Serega | comm_a_nder: it is present! ('konsole -e vim') :) | 10:27 |
Riddell | maybe yzis will release one day | 10:29 |
snikker | Sorry if i write here, but i've got no answer in #kubuntu. After upgrade to 8.04 all my ksplash screen are oversized... How can i see them at normal size? | 10:37 |
Riddell | we don't use ksplash in 8.04, I'd recommend removing it | 10:40 |
comm_a_nder | Serega: kind of ... :) | 10:40 |
Serega | :) | 10:42 |
snikker | Riddell: there is a replacemente for ksplash in 8.04? | 10:43 |
comm_a_nder | but seriously, yzis seems to be dead am i the only one, wishing the power of vim inside a kde app with all the advantages of kde? | 10:46 |
comm_a_nder | ah no, there is still action in yzis svn | 10:47 |
* Hobbsee suggests gvim | 10:47 | |
Hobbsee | not kde, thouhg | 10:48 |
Hobbsee | then again, it is a gui | 10:48 |
comm_a_nder | jepp gvim has some features i like a lot but ist unfortunately gtk | 10:49 |
comm_a_nder | not that bad, but not the best | 10:50 |
Riddell | snikker: no | 10:52 |
snikker | Riddell: ok, thanks | 10:53 |
Hobbsee | comm_a_nder: go ahead and make it, then :) | 10:53 |
Jucato | http://code.google.com/soc/2008/kde/appinfo.html?csaid=370F903C96FF67D1 <- "Vi-like, modal editing mode for Kate" | 11:30 |
toscalix | hi, I've detected an issue about the installer ubuntu that I want to ask, or do you prefer I write it down in a e-mail to any list? | 12:48 |
Riddell | toscalix: try evand, he's the installer man | 12:50 |
toscalix | his e-mail? | 12:50 |
Riddell | evand@ubuntu | 12:51 |
toscalix | thanks | 12:51 |
Riddell | seele: what's the irc channel peter sikking is on? | 13:00 |
seele | Riddell: openusability | 13:04 |
seele | guiguru | 13:04 |
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seaLne | Nightrose: any idea what happened to the kubuntu banner (thin white bannerwith poles at top and bottom) after frosscon? | 13:28 |
seaLne | any other kubuntu-de folks about? | 13:29 |
\sh | seaLne, what says czessi? | 13:35 |
seaLne | Czessi: any idea what happened to the kubuntu banner that was at frosscon? | 13:37 |
neversfelde|mobi | seaLne: I think it is in Berlin, but not sure | 13:37 |
seaLne | neversfelde|mobi: could you find out and let me know please when you get a chance? | 13:38 |
neversfelde|mobi | seaLne: will do | 13:38 |
seaLne | great thanks | 13:38 |
neversfelde|mobi | seaLne: this banner? http://www.kubuntu-de.org/bilder/events/linux-info-tag-dresden-2007 | 13:41 |
neversfelde|mobi | on the table | 13:41 |
Riddell | gosh, we have lots of banners | 13:42 |
Riddell | this one http://www.kubuntu-de.org/bilder/events/linux-info-tag-dresden-2007#img4 | 13:42 |
seaLne | the one on the right | 13:42 |
neversfelde|mobi | :) ok. | 13:43 |
seaLne | i don't think i've seen the stand in the middle of 4 before? | 13:43 |
seaLne | or is that the standard one? | 13:44 |
seaLne | the banner that was lying on the table might be usefull for the front of the kubuntu booth at akademy though | 13:45 |
neversfelde|mobi | I think all banners are in Berlin waiting for Linux Tag | 13:47 |
seaLne | thats before akademy anyway isn't it? | 13:47 |
neversfelde|mobi | yes, I think so | 13:48 |
neversfelde|mobi | end of may | 13:48 |
Czessi | seaLne: i have all the both stuff here in berlin | 13:54 |
Czessi | for linuxtag next month | 13:56 |
seaLne | Czessi: what does it consist of? | 13:56 |
Czessi | plastic plane | 13:58 |
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jpatrick | http://www.seqfault.de/files/hardy-thankyou.png <- awesome | 15:29 |
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Nightrose | seaLne: nope sorry - don't know what happened to it after that and I am not sure I saw it at cebit | 15:52 |
Nightrose | back to class - cya | 15:53 |
santiago-ve | mkay... back to the lockups problem | 15:56 |
santiago-ve | >.< | 15:56 |
santiago-ve | wish me luck guys! | 16:04 |
nosrednaekim | :) | 16:04 |
nixternal | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RichardJohnson/OpenWeek/KubuntuDevel | 16:45 |
nixternal | review that and see if I am missing anything from it and if it is decent for today's talk | 16:46 |
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Riddell | nixternal: looks all good to me | 16:55 |
nixternal | hopefully it will get 30+ minutes of paste time and then open it up for questions | 16:55 |
nosrednaekim | today? | 16:57 |
stdin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek | 16:57 |
nixternal | nosrednaekim: yup | 16:58 |
nosrednaekim | that wasn't very well advertised this time | 16:58 |
nixternal | sure it was, it was all over the planet the past week | 16:58 |
* nosrednaekim doesn't read the planet <_< | 16:59 | |
nosrednaekim | anyway... lookin forward to that KDE4 talk | 17:00 |
stdin | it's in the weekly newsletter too | 17:00 |
nixternal | ya, I have to put something together for the KDE 4 talk yet | 17:00 |
nixternal | the documentation talk I will just use what I have used for the past 430824320 OpenWeeks :) | 17:00 |
nosrednaekim | :) | 17:01 |
stdin | which is "Oh god please help us! :s"? | 17:02 |
nixternal | you know it | 17:06 |
santiago-ve | mkay... back to the kernell testing | 17:21 |
nixternal | http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ <- that looks sharp | 17:29 |
santiago-ve | would look nicer if it had blue stuff arround... | 17:38 |
nixternal | hehe, no doubt | 17:39 |
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daskrEEch | hi gnomefreak | 19:05 |
gnomefreak | hi daskrEEch | 19:07 |
jcastro | nixternal: you're up in about 2 hours! | 19:08 |
nixternal | oh man, I gotta go, I won't be around...can' you do it jcastro? | 19:08 |
nixternal | you aren't falling for it are you? | 19:09 |
nixternal | I had 'GOTCHA!' already typed out if you started to freak a bit :p | 19:09 |
jcastro | nixternal: I would have driven to chicago and killed you myself. | 19:15 |
nixternal | could we have gotten a drink first though? | 19:16 |
jcastro | sure. | 19:16 |
nixternal | groovy | 19:16 |
* nixternal leaves for about 8 hours | 19:16 | |
Riddell | jpatrick: poke | 19:38 |
Riddell | jpatrick: I've added a patch to bug 194474, the question is what will removing that while loop break? | 19:38 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 194474 in kdelibs "[hardy] kded in loop (100%CPU) when using 'mount automatically'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194474 | 19:38 |
Riddell | jpatrick: are you in contact with upstream? | 19:38 |
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Riddell | please test package at end of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/194474 | 20:28 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 194474 in kdelibs "[hardy] kded in loop (100%CPU) when using 'mount automatically'" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:28 |
ScottK | Will do once I get done finding out about the criminal history of my English ancestors: http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/index.jsp | 20:30 |
* daskrEEch waves at seele :-) | 21:10 | |
* seele waves back | 21:10 | |
daskrEEch | How are you? | 21:10 |
seele | more busy than i would like to be | 21:11 |
seele | moved in to a new place this past week.. so havent been able to do any oss work at all | 21:11 |
seele | (infact, i'm a little bit behind in day job work too..) | 21:12 |
daskrEEch | ah right I recall you mentioning a move | 21:12 |
daskrEEch | Hope that goes well | 21:24 |
Riddell | Kubuntu talk in #ubuntu-classroom by the way | 21:25 |
apachelogger | Riddell: btw, isn't Saturday meetingday again? | 21:37 |
_sourcemaker | will there be a vmware-server repository available for hardy? | 21:42 |
* apachelogger places a whole plate of cookies on nixternal's desk | 21:59 | |
funderburg | Gah! Ended just before my question. :-( | 21:59 |
* seele swipes a cookie from nixternal's desk | 21:59 | |
nixternal | hehe | 21:59 |
nixternal | that was fun! | 21:59 |
Arby | nixternal: great show | 22:00 |
nosrednaekim | funderburg: oh i'm sorry! I didn't see that one :( | 22:00 |
nixternal | funderburg: ask away! | 22:00 |
funderburg | no probs. :-) Was just wondering when we might see a knetworkmanager for kde4? | 22:00 |
funderburg | using the version for 3 is awkward. | 22:00 |
nixternal | actually, I know someone who is playing around with that right now, so I am hoping that with the 0.7 release it won't be to far off | 22:00 |
apachelogger | funderburg: knetworkmanager is mainly maintained by opensuse developers I think | 22:00 |
nosrednaekim | funderburg: there is actually a plasmoid for that in kde svn | 22:01 |
funderburg | really? haven't come across it. will look. | 22:01 |
Riddell | top stuff nixternal | 22:01 |
funderburg | thanks nixternal! | 22:01 |
Riddell | apachelogger: yes it should, but I'll be away | 22:01 |
nixternal | thanks, we had a good turnout | 22:01 |
Riddell | if someone else wants to organise it, you may | 22:02 |
wolfger | nixternal: I ran `sudo apt-get install riddell` like you suggested, but it errored out. Fix that package, will you? | 22:02 |
nixternal | my keyboard is hot! | 22:02 |
nixternal | wolfger: it is missing the irn-bru dependency | 22:03 |
apachelogger | Riddell: well, I think it would be cool to have a meeting in case someone from openweek wants to drop some thoughts | 22:04 |
* apachelogger votes for nixternal to organize the meeting :P | 22:04 | |
nixternal | go figure | 22:04 |
nixternal | I organize something, then I get blamed for it! | 22:04 |
nixternal | hahahahaha | 22:04 |
nixternal | they are blaming in the classroom-chat already, thanks to daskrEEch! | 22:04 |
nosrednaekim | lol :) | 22:05 |
apachelogger | hm | 22:06 |
apachelogger | ok | 22:06 |
apachelogger | nixternal: but, either you or I have to do it | 22:07 |
daskrEEch | Ok I'm going out for lunch/breakfast | 22:07 |
daskrEEch | nixternal: you are off? | 22:07 |
apachelogger | after all we are 2nd hottest kubuntu devs | 22:07 |
apachelogger | so... | 22:07 |
daskrEEch | who is in the class of First? | 22:07 |
nixternal | hahaha | 22:07 |
nosrednaekim | nixternal: at least it seems the guys enjoyed your jokes :) | 22:07 |
nixternal | ya, I want to go back and read the chat stuff | 22:08 |
daskrEEch | Yeah it was pretty dynamic :) | 22:08 |
daskrEEch | nixternal: I wanna package 4.1 should I hang around for this next class? | 22:08 |
daskrEEch | speaking of packaging should we package Japser or just lean on them? | 22:09 |
apachelogger | japser? | 22:10 |
ScottK | nixternal: Thanks for the plug. | 22:11 |
apachelogger | maybe I don't break the meetings page while cleaning it | 22:12 |
apachelogger | Riddell: at what time do we do the Saturday meetings nowadays? | 22:12 |
apachelogger | 23UTC? | 22:12 |
Riddell | 11UTC it used to be | 22:13 |
daskrEEch | apachelogger: Kopeet uses libjasper to do VV in KDE3 | 22:13 |
Riddell | could be 10UTC now | 22:13 |
daskrEEch | the license doesn't allow that in KDE4 | 22:13 |
daskrEEch | so you need a Jasper executable in your path | 22:13 |
daskrEEch | we don't provide one | 22:13 |
apachelogger | any objections for 10 UTC? | 22:13 |
nixternal | my hands went num, but someone gave me a great idea on my next talk...i am scripting irssi to do my next talk to where I can just sit back and watch it | 22:14 |
daskrEEch | I don't know if it's easier to make one or more correct to try and get the licensing changed | 22:14 |
nixternal | do 5 second triggers to print lines from a txt file :) | 22:14 |
apachelogger | IMO getting the licensing fixed is the better approach | 22:14 |
daskrEEch | nixternal: I'll shoot all the pre arranged questions in the other room so no one will suspect anything | 22:14 |
daskrEEch | apachelogger: Yeah me too | 22:14 |
daskrEEch | I compiled it for myself personally here | 22:15 |
nixternal | that was a great crowd, great questions, great interaction...totally blows away my previous ones | 22:15 |
apachelogger | we have 6 months time ;-) | 22:15 |
nixternal | now I gotta rock out something hardcore for the KDE 4 talk on Wednesday | 22:15 |
awen_ | ScottK: when at some point we are committing all our patches for guidance to the svn i have another patch to go with it ... and just poke me, if i should write some words about the changes | 22:15 |
apachelogger | nixternal: just invite aseigo as co-talker | 22:15 |
nosrednaekim | heh | 22:15 |
ScottK | awen_: Riddell is the one to do it. We need to bug him about it. | 22:16 |
nosrednaekim | would he do that? | 22:16 |
nixternal | that would rock it, but I think he is afk this week as he is having coffee with somebody not in Canada :) | 22:16 |
apachelogger | IMO he is not only the King of KDE | 22:18 |
apachelogger | but also the one of traveling :P | 22:18 |
nixternal | hehe | 22:18 |
awen_ | ScottK: okay ... either have him doing the commits, or get our own svn access <-- whatever Riddell prefers | 22:18 |
* ScottK is currently busy giving the bzr guy trouble in #ubuntu-classroom. | 22:19 | |
Riddell | awen_: commit messages for each patch would be good | 22:20 |
apachelogger | whom do I have to poke to get the meeting fridged? | 22:20 |
Riddell | nixternal | 22:20 |
jhutchins_wk | Ubotu's MIA. | 22:21 |
awen_ | Riddell: okay... i'll make a list of those and send to you | 22:22 |
daskrEEch | nixternal: Ok I'll bug you about 4.1 packaging when I get back I'm starving | 22:24 |
apachelogger | while meeting.fridged() != true; poke("nixternal"); done | 22:24 |
Riddell | thanks awen_ | 22:25 |
apachelogger | ~topic sep | | 22:25 |
insanity | Topic separator set to | | 22:25 |
apachelogger | ~topic add Next Meeting on Saturday May 03 @ 10 UTC - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | 22:26 |
=== insanity changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 8.04 Released http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release | Next Meeting on Saturday May 03 @ 10 UTC - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
nixternal | wow, that is lazy apachelogger | 22:26 |
apachelogger | nixternal: I have shortcuts for insanity but not for /topic :P | 22:27 |
nixternal | heh, Seveas quit and took all of the bots in a fit of rage | 22:27 |
nixternal | no more ubotu | 22:27 |
daskrEEch | Hmm | 22:28 |
daskrEEch | Is there a story behind that? | 22:28 |
nixternal | apachelogger: is that 10am or 10pm? | 22:28 |
apachelogger | IMO there is no such thing as 10am UTC as UTC is 24-hour clock only | 22:32 |
apachelogger | never heard a pilot say xy pm at least ;-) | 22:33 |
yuriy | 13:40 PM ? :D | 22:34 |
apachelogger | ~topic replace 4 Next Meeting on Saturday May 03 @ 10 ante meridiem UTC - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | 22:35 |
* apachelogger hopes that spelling is correct :S | 22:35 | |
apachelogger | and that insanity stops lagging :S | 22:35 |
nosrednaekim | might want to make it later... nixternal nor I will probably be able to attend at that time.. | 22:36 |
apachelogger | we need the nixternal! | 22:36 |
nosrednaekim | iam IIRC | 22:36 |
nixternal | they don't need me | 22:37 |
nosrednaekim | meridian | 22:37 |
=== insanity changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 8.04 Released http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release | Next Meeting on Saturday May 03 @ 10 ante meridiem UTC - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
apachelogger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.m. | 22:37 |
apachelogger | nixternal: what time would be doable for you? | 22:37 |
nixternal | apachelogger: we switch our meetings between 10:00 and 22:00...the last meeting was 22:00, so this meeting will be 10:00 | 22:40 |
nixternal | UTC wise, any time after 14:00 works best for me, but I can always catch up later | 22:40 |
nosrednaekim | oh right... forgot about that | 22:41 |
apachelogger | k | 22:41 |
apachelogger | nixternal: please add it to the fridge then | 22:41 |
nixternal | already added :) | 22:42 |
apachelogger | awesomest | 22:42 |
* apachelogger gives nixternal milk for his cookies | 22:42 | |
nixternal | man, bzr has some great tools for packaging that I never knew about | 22:50 |
ScottK | I gotta give james_w credit for an even temper. I'd have jumped all over me by now. | 22:52 |
awen_ | Riddell: here you go: http://awen.dk/packages/guidance/ ... a new version of the gpmhelper is also there, please commit that one instead of the one in the package | 22:53 |
daskrEEch | ksnapshot seems to have a bug in KDE4 | 22:53 |
daskrEEch | at least I can't get region to work :( | 22:53 |
Jucato | daskrEEch: what version? | 22:54 |
daskrEEch | 0.8.1 | 22:55 |
daskrEEch | Probably long fixed by now | 22:55 |
apachelogger | nope | 22:55 |
apachelogger | still appears in trunk IIRC | 22:55 |
Jucato | daskrEEch: how is the region mode unusable? | 22:56 |
ScottK | Does edit bookmarks work in Konqueror on KDE4 for anyone else? | 22:56 |
nixternal | ScottK: it worked for me the other day as I imported and edited my old bookmarks | 22:57 |
ScottK | I noticed that Konqueror for KDE3 on Hardy was importing old FF2 bookmarks and not the FF3 bookmarks. | 22:57 |
ScottK | I was curious if KDE4 was the same. | 22:57 |
daskrEEch | It goes into a mode where you draw a square then it flashes a message saying press enter to take snapshot or esc to cancel | 22:57 |
ScottK | OK. Maybe it's just me then. Was what on Hardy with Kubuntu packages? | 22:57 |
daskrEEch | Neither key works though | 22:57 |
nixternal | ScottK: yes | 22:57 |
ScottK | OK. | 22:57 |
Jucato | daskrEEch: hm.. works here... from SVN snapshot 4.0.70 | 22:58 |
nixternal | I think i noticed the same thing you did though, it grabbed my ff2 bookmarks and not my ff3 ones | 22:58 |
nixternal | I ended up exported the ff3 to html and importing them into konqi 4 that way | 22:58 |
daskrEEch | Jucato: Great :) | 22:58 |
ScottK | That'd be a bug then (probably a packaging bug though). | 22:58 |
daskrEEch | Just needs arrows and ovals now and it's set | 22:58 |
daskrEEch | I wonder if ksnapshot can use flake? | 22:58 |
daskrEEch | Jucato: BTW I'm a certified bachelor now | 22:59 |
Jucato | O.o | 22:59 |
daskrEEch | so if I turn up dead ina few weeks that would be why | 23:00 |
Jucato | oh.... ok.... | 23:00 |
* Jucato is still busy trying to figure out wth happened while he was sleeping | 23:01 | |
Jucato | I have a feeling it has something to do with nixternal... | 23:01 |
nixternal | ya, blame me! | 23:01 |
nosrednaekim | Jucato: Kubuntu Dev OpenWeek session | 23:01 |
daskrEEch | My Mom Immigrated leaving the family fortunes to me | 23:02 |
* Jucato just woke up | 23:02 | |
Jucato | daskrEEch: oh now you can be Kubuntu's sugar daddy | 23:02 |
nixternal | nosrednaekim: rock on man for fielding the questions....awesome crowd today | 23:02 |
Jucato | nixternal: at least you can take comfort in the fact that lovable, good people are always blamed for bad things ;) | 23:02 |
nosrednaekim | daskrEEch: that would be emmigrated | 23:03 |
nixternal | well, I am neither lovable or good people :p | 23:03 |
Jucato | oh well, no comfort for you :P | 23:03 |
nosrednaekim | NP... it was a good crowd | 23:03 |
nixternal | daskrEEch: where did she emigrate to? | 23:03 |
Jucato | actually, it would have been "migrated" afaik | 23:03 |
nixternal | I can't believe only one "2nd class citizen" question came out | 23:03 |
Jucato | heheh it's gotten old by now | 23:04 |
nixternal | I figured there would have been more | 23:04 |
nixternal | I think Zonker put whoever asked that question up to it because of the openSUSE comment :p | 23:04 |
daskrEEch | nosrednaekim: emmigrated is within a country isn't it? | 23:04 |
Jucato | but I saw one such question in the kubuntu forums... didn't bother reading fully or answering... because the argument was shite :) | 23:04 |
nosrednaekim | daskrEEch: no... its leaving a country for another | 23:04 |
daskrEEch | nosrednaekim: immigration is within a single country? | 23:05 |
nixternal | hrmm | 23:05 |
nixternal | immigration is leaving one country for another...otherwise it wouldn't be INS | 23:05 |
nosrednaekim | daskrEEch: immigration is coming INTO a country | 23:05 |
Jucato | ex + migrate = emigrant = out of; in + migrate = immigrant = into | 23:05 |
nixternal | INS is always raiding Chicago for immigrants | 23:05 |
daskrEEch | Hmm The Plasam Dictionary has them with nearly the same meaning | 23:06 |
Jucato | both are leaving one country for another. the difference is the "direction", so to speak | 23:06 |
daskrEEch | We had this ina clss when I was 6 | 23:06 |
daskrEEch | I remember it seeming significan't at the time ;) | 23:06 |
Jucato | if you meant "Plasma Dictionary".. then I wouldn't be surprised they nearly mean the same :) | 23:06 |
daskrEEch | well it's 17:07 | 23:07 |
Jucato | in the Plasma Dictionary, desktop and panel nearly mean the same too :P | 23:07 |
daskrEEch | Time for breakfast | 23:07 |
nosrednaekim | Jucato: ^_^ | 23:07 |
Jucato | immigrate = to come *into* a country; emigrate = to go *out of* a country. both with the intentions of relocating permanently | 23:08 |
* Jucato *had* to look it up... | 23:09 | |
* nosrednaekim dances | 23:10 | |
* nosrednaekim didn't study all that vocabulary for the SAT for nothin ;P | 23:11 | |
daskrEEch | aw hell you are right | 23:12 |
daskrEEch | that question was on the SAT | 23:12 |
daskrEEch | I remember it now :) | 23:12 |
Riddell | ScottK: did you try that? | 23:44 |
Nightrose | Riddell: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-kde-en/+bug/203349 | 23:48 |
Nightrose | that is the bug aacid is talking about | 23:48 |
Riddell | anyone asked carlos? | 23:56 |
emonkey | hm? | 23:58 |
emonkey | oh not me I think ... | 23:58 |
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