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ubotuNew bug: #223406 in launchpad-bazaar "we call requestMirror way too often" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22340603:10
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ubotuNew bug: #223479 in malone "dpkg lock file constantly created after adding Medibuntu repository " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22347907:06
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ubotuNew bug: #223482 in launchpad "Launchpad should make external files cacheable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22348207:21
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ubotuNew bug: #223522 in meta-lp-deps "Add `fakeroot` dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22352209:10
* Hobbsee waves to allenap09:13
allenapHi Hobbsee :)09:13
Hobbsee:)09:13
RAOFHeya Hobbsee.09:16
ubotuNew bug: #217891 in apport (main) "502 error on reporting big crash reports (dup-of: 95822)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21789109:16
HobbseeRAOF!09:16
RAOFHobbsee: I've got a shiny old CRT to test nouveau on, thanks to council cleanup day.  Yay discarded working stuff!09:17
HobbseeRAOF: nice work!09:18
RAOFI've now got the full set - LVDS, DVI and VGA :)09:18
RAOFOn the down side, my arms are now rubbery.09:19
jameshRAOF: now all you need is DisplayPort09:33
jameshand HDMI09:33
bigjoolshdmi is the same as dvi, plus sound09:34
Hobbseemorning mrevell 09:35
jameshand encryption09:35
mrevellhi hi09:35
wgrantjamesh: DisplayPort? Is that some Apple thing?09:36
jameshwgrant: nope.  It is the successor to DVI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort09:37
jameshpotentially also the successor to HDMI09:37
bigjoolsyay for standards, there's so many to choose from09:37
RAOFjamesh: But you can get (and I've got) DVI->HDMI cables, so the encryption isn't mandatory.09:37
wgrantjamesh: Ah, better.09:37
jameshit is also meant to be the successor to LVDS09:40
jameshso it should result in a net decrease in display technologies once it takes over09:40
wgrantjamesh: Except that something will probably overtake it first.09:41
wgrantAnd fragment the market.09:41
wgrantAgain.09:41
jameshwell, it beats DVI where you need to increase the pin count every time you hit the maximum resolution09:43
wgrantDidn't know you needed to do that.09:44
jameshwell, you can always drop the refresh rate to get higher resolutions09:44
jameshbut there is an upper limit on the bandwidth of a single DVI link09:44
jameshif you exceed that limit you need dual link DVI (all pins in the DVI connector hooked up rather than half) or more09:45
wgrantDisplayPort has lovely provisions for DRM, I see. Determining proximity!? Ew.09:47
jameshprobably similar technology to that used in ethernet cable testers09:48
wgrantI'd assume so, but still seems like overkill.09:48
mantiena-baltixHi all09:51
mantiena-baltixI can't find anywhere what are dependancies in PPA (there is a link, named "Edit depentancies" in left menu)09:53
mantiena-baltixMaybe anyone could point me to some info ?09:53
* Hobbsee grins09:54
wgrantmantiena-baltix: They're useful if you want to build-depend on packages in other PPAs.09:54
* Hobbsee has already reported that as a bug.09:54
Hobbseebut what wgrant said09:54
wgrantAlthough one can copy packages to serve that purpose these days.09:54
rexiummantiena-baltix: with ppa, the buildd handles deps in this order (iirc) packages in the ppa > packages in ppa dependacies > ubuntu archive09:55
cprovrexium: not in a specific order, apt will install the highest version available from any of those locations.09:58
mantiena-baltixwgrant, rexium: so, I should add telepathy PPA into my PPA depentancies if I wanna build empathy for Gutsy and wanna have newer build-depentances from telepathy PPA 09:59
wgrantmantiena-baltix: Correct.09:59
ubotuNew bug: #223546 in launchpad "FAQ hit links in launchpad answers do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22354610:00
Hobbseemorning sabdfl 10:01
wgrantbigjools: Yay! I see s-i-s is actually happening!10:03
bigjoolswgrant: indeed - it needs some infrastructure work yet but the code is all done10:03
bigjoolsbarring any bugs anyway :)10:03
Hobbseewgrant: will that be reserved for intrepid now, after a few months of testing in parallel withthe current dak?10:03
cjwatsonHey folks - I'd like the aid of a Launchpad admin to create the intrepid distroseries for Ubuntu10:09
cjwatsonI can fill in the blanks, once the distroseries exists and has its announcement address set to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com10:09
cjwatsonalso, it should have its upload status set to "Pre-release freeze" for now10:10
bigjoolscjwatson: SteveA might be able to help since kiko is away10:15
cjwatsonSteveA: ^--10:15
SteveAhello cjwatson 10:15
cjwatsonSteveA: it's been tested as far as running initialise-from-parent successfully on dogfood, FYI10:15
cjwatson(thanks to cprov)10:16
SteveAkiko is back on wednesday.  can it wait until then?10:17
cjwatsonI wouldn't say it's super-urgent, but it's near the start of a fairly long chain of dependencies in getting the next release cycle going so I would like to start sooner rather than later10:18
cjwatsonbut if Wednesday is the way it has to be ...10:18
SteveAI've never done it, so I'd be acting as automatic waldos for bigjools and cprov.10:18
cjwatsonalternatively I have a vague memory that elmo's done it in the past10:19
cprovcjwatson: yes, elmo has done it for the past series.10:20
SteveAif so, I'd be more comfortable with elmo doing it.  If you think it's a great advantage for it to happen today, and elmo isn't available, then let me know.10:20
* cjwatson <- not really sure why distroseries operations tend to need Launchpad.admin in the first place, but never mind. :)10:21
cjwatsonok, thanks10:21
cjwatsonelmo: when you're available ...?10:21
cprovcjwatson: mthaddon also has the super-powers ;)10:21
mthaddoncjwatson, what do you need?10:22
bigjoolsthis sounds like another good use for the new permissioning stuff10:27
sabdflhey Hobbsee10:30
cjwatsonmthaddon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu, then I think it's "Add series" (I can't see it); parameters are intrepid, "The Intrepid Ibex", 8.10, and I can fill in the rest; also "Administer" after that's created, set the status to "Pre-release freeze", and the announcement address to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com10:31
mthaddoncjwatson, I have name, display name, title, summary, description, version, parent series as required values - let me know what I should go for for each10:34
cjwatsonname: intrepid, display name: Intrepid, title: The Intrepid Ibex, summary and description: fill in dummy values and I can edit them afterwards; version: 8.10, parent series: The Hardy Heron10:35
mthaddoncjwatson, that's done (with the pre-release freeze and announcement address as well)10:37
cjwatson(names/titles are in line with /ubuntu/hardy)10:37
mthaddoncjwatson, should I change the registrant? (currently me)10:37
cjwatsonthanks, looks good10:37
cjwatsonmthaddon: registrant for previous distroseries has been techboard, which I think is right10:38
mthaddoncjwatson, ok, that's changed10:38
cjwatsonexcellent, looks ready for initialisation10:40
mthaddoncool10:40
ubotuNew bug: #222363 in update-manager "Encountered a section with no Package - Hardy Heron" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22236310:47
ubotuNew bug: #222235 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails reading sources (dup-of: 222363)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22223510:57
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mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!12:00
rexiumhey everyone. I am having a problem with large uploads to my ppa timeing out. Any suggestions?12:10
intellectronicacprov or bigjools might know12:11
bigjoolsrexium: please post a question to answers.launchpad.net/soyuz12:12
bigjoolsand put as much detail in it as possible12:13
rexiumI was wondering if this might have had to do with general launchpad slowness of late...12:13
rexiumok will do12:13
bigjoolsrexium: it's possible, the servers are still being hammered from the Hardy release12:14
rexiumbigjools: that seems to make sense, as it only started after the release12:14
bigjoolsrexium: thanks, someone will look at your question later12:15
ubotuNew bug: #223602 in malone "Bug status transition records for old changes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22360212:16
rexiumhttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/3116612:19
rexiumbigjools: ^12:19
bigjoolsthanks12:19
rexiumI am trying another upload and will report back if anything different occurs12:20
cjwatsonarchive.ubuntu.com hasn't updated yet for the creation of intrepid; is this just because it's hammered, rather than because the syncing is broken?12:20
cjwatsonoh, I spoke too soon, there it is12:20
cjwatsononly on some of the rotation though12:20
mok0I get the following message from my ppa, which puzzles me a bit: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive. Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.12:40
wgrantmok0: How is that puzzling?12:44
mok0wgrant: I think I have figured it out... I have modified a package that already exists in universe12:45
wgrantCorrect. Increment the version.12:45
mok0wgrant: I am trying that as we speak :-)12:45
mok0wgrant: actually, I have the release incremented.12:46
wgrantmok0: Did you change the .orig.tar.gz?12:48
mok0wgrant: It's a repackaged tarball, so probably yes. It likely has a different md5 sum12:49
mok0wgrant: If you compress the same file twice, it gets another md5sum12:50
wgrantmok0: Right, you'll need to increment the upstream version.12:50
mok0wgrant: Can't I just make a no-source upload?12:51
wgrantmok0: You mean diff-only? You'd need to convince the .dsc that it wanted to point at the old tarball.12:55
wgrantOr just not modify the tarball in the first place.12:55
mok0wgrant: Right, I use the tarball from the archive now12:56
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mok0wgrant: I didn't realize that the ppa's were integrated with the main archives this way12:58
mok0Yay it worked now13:14
Hobbseebelated afternoon, mpt!13:24
timlinuxhi launchpadders14:03
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timlinuxanyone about?14:35
Hobbseeno.  we're all dead.14:36
timlinuxIm trying to figure out what to do when package 'a'I am building depends on package 'b' which is in a different ppa14:36
timlinuxHobbsee: nice to see the dead can talk :-)14:36
Hobbseetimlinux: hit 'edit dependancies' on the side of a's ppa14:36
Hobbseeand put in b's ppa14:37
* Hobbsee is very skilled in being dead.14:37
timlinuxoh cool14:37
* wgrant buries Hobbsee.14:37
* Hobbsee coughs up dirt14:37
wgrantCorpses don't cough, fortunately.14:37
Hobbseedepends how skilled they are.14:38
wgrantTrue.14:38
timlinuxif they can talk I reckon they can *cough*14:48
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xhakerHi. Someone care to explain me how PPA work in regards to deleting packages?17:40
affluxxhaker: not very much detail: you select a package for deleting and it will be removed some time later, IIRC17:41
xhakerafflux: the page that allows copying packages shows removed packages though17:44
xhakerso that's a bit confusing17:44
affluxcopying? huh17:45
affluxthat seems to be new :P17:45
bigjoolsso new, it's only on edge17:46
affluxI'm on edge. I just never saw it before ;)17:46
bigjoolsenjoy :)17:47
affluxxhaker: not sure, this may be related to bug 184490 17:48
ubotuLaunchpad bug 184490 in soyuz "Deleted PPA packages still displayed on +packages page" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184490 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan)17:48
bigjoolsxhaker: can you try on staging, if it still shows deleted packages on there can you file a bug please17:49
affluxhm, looking further, it doesn't. My copy-packages page shows lots of packages while +packages doesn't17:50
bigjoolsafflux: your copy page shows deleted packages?17:57
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ubotuNew bug: #223757 in rosetta "XPI import fails to descend into jar files" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22375718:18
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ubotuNew bug: #223797 in launchpad "mailing list requests and rejections should include reason" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22379719:44
ubotuNew bug: #223785 in malone "impossible de patler francais sur ce sacré site ... que faire ???" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22378519:46
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smagounI need some help with private bugs in LP, any LP admins around?20:48
thumpersmagoun: what's your question?21:02
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