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ubotu | New bug: #223406 in launchpad-bazaar "we call requestMirror way too often" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223406 | 03:10 |
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ubotu | New bug: #223479 in malone "dpkg lock file constantly created after adding Medibuntu repository " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223479 | 07:06 |
carlos | morning | 07:17 |
ubotu | New bug: #223482 in launchpad "Launchpad should make external files cacheable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223482 | 07:21 |
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ubotu | New bug: #223522 in meta-lp-deps "Add `fakeroot` dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223522 | 09:10 |
* Hobbsee waves to allenap | 09:13 | |
allenap | Hi Hobbsee :) | 09:13 |
Hobbsee | :) | 09:13 |
RAOF | Heya Hobbsee. | 09:16 |
ubotu | New bug: #217891 in apport (main) "502 error on reporting big crash reports (dup-of: 95822)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217891 | 09:16 |
Hobbsee | RAOF! | 09:16 |
RAOF | Hobbsee: I've got a shiny old CRT to test nouveau on, thanks to council cleanup day. Yay discarded working stuff! | 09:17 |
Hobbsee | RAOF: nice work! | 09:18 |
RAOF | I've now got the full set - LVDS, DVI and VGA :) | 09:18 |
RAOF | On the down side, my arms are now rubbery. | 09:19 |
jamesh | RAOF: now all you need is DisplayPort | 09:33 |
jamesh | and HDMI | 09:33 |
bigjools | hdmi is the same as dvi, plus sound | 09:34 |
Hobbsee | morning mrevell | 09:35 |
jamesh | and encryption | 09:35 |
mrevell | hi hi | 09:35 |
wgrant | jamesh: DisplayPort? Is that some Apple thing? | 09:36 |
jamesh | wgrant: nope. It is the successor to DVI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort | 09:37 |
jamesh | potentially also the successor to HDMI | 09:37 |
bigjools | yay for standards, there's so many to choose from | 09:37 |
RAOF | jamesh: But you can get (and I've got) DVI->HDMI cables, so the encryption isn't mandatory. | 09:37 |
wgrant | jamesh: Ah, better. | 09:37 |
jamesh | it is also meant to be the successor to LVDS | 09:40 |
jamesh | so it should result in a net decrease in display technologies once it takes over | 09:40 |
wgrant | jamesh: Except that something will probably overtake it first. | 09:41 |
wgrant | And fragment the market. | 09:41 |
wgrant | Again. | 09:41 |
jamesh | well, it beats DVI where you need to increase the pin count every time you hit the maximum resolution | 09:43 |
wgrant | Didn't know you needed to do that. | 09:44 |
jamesh | well, you can always drop the refresh rate to get higher resolutions | 09:44 |
jamesh | but there is an upper limit on the bandwidth of a single DVI link | 09:44 |
jamesh | if you exceed that limit you need dual link DVI (all pins in the DVI connector hooked up rather than half) or more | 09:45 |
wgrant | DisplayPort has lovely provisions for DRM, I see. Determining proximity!? Ew. | 09:47 |
jamesh | probably similar technology to that used in ethernet cable testers | 09:48 |
wgrant | I'd assume so, but still seems like overkill. | 09:48 |
mantiena-baltix | Hi all | 09:51 |
mantiena-baltix | I can't find anywhere what are dependancies in PPA (there is a link, named "Edit depentancies" in left menu) | 09:53 |
mantiena-baltix | Maybe anyone could point me to some info ? | 09:53 |
* Hobbsee grins | 09:54 | |
wgrant | mantiena-baltix: They're useful if you want to build-depend on packages in other PPAs. | 09:54 |
* Hobbsee has already reported that as a bug. | 09:54 | |
Hobbsee | but what wgrant said | 09:54 |
wgrant | Although one can copy packages to serve that purpose these days. | 09:54 |
rexium | mantiena-baltix: with ppa, the buildd handles deps in this order (iirc) packages in the ppa > packages in ppa dependacies > ubuntu archive | 09:55 |
cprov | rexium: not in a specific order, apt will install the highest version available from any of those locations. | 09:58 |
mantiena-baltix | wgrant, rexium: so, I should add telepathy PPA into my PPA depentancies if I wanna build empathy for Gutsy and wanna have newer build-depentances from telepathy PPA | 09:59 |
wgrant | mantiena-baltix: Correct. | 09:59 |
ubotu | New bug: #223546 in launchpad "FAQ hit links in launchpad answers do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223546 | 10:00 |
Hobbsee | morning sabdfl | 10:01 |
wgrant | bigjools: Yay! I see s-i-s is actually happening! | 10:03 |
bigjools | wgrant: indeed - it needs some infrastructure work yet but the code is all done | 10:03 |
bigjools | barring any bugs anyway :) | 10:03 |
Hobbsee | wgrant: will that be reserved for intrepid now, after a few months of testing in parallel withthe current dak? | 10:03 |
cjwatson | Hey folks - I'd like the aid of a Launchpad admin to create the intrepid distroseries for Ubuntu | 10:09 |
cjwatson | I can fill in the blanks, once the distroseries exists and has its announcement address set to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com | 10:09 |
cjwatson | also, it should have its upload status set to "Pre-release freeze" for now | 10:10 |
bigjools | cjwatson: SteveA might be able to help since kiko is away | 10:15 |
cjwatson | SteveA: ^-- | 10:15 |
SteveA | hello cjwatson | 10:15 |
cjwatson | SteveA: it's been tested as far as running initialise-from-parent successfully on dogfood, FYI | 10:15 |
cjwatson | (thanks to cprov) | 10:16 |
SteveA | kiko is back on wednesday. can it wait until then? | 10:17 |
cjwatson | I wouldn't say it's super-urgent, but it's near the start of a fairly long chain of dependencies in getting the next release cycle going so I would like to start sooner rather than later | 10:18 |
cjwatson | but if Wednesday is the way it has to be ... | 10:18 |
SteveA | I've never done it, so I'd be acting as automatic waldos for bigjools and cprov. | 10:18 |
cjwatson | alternatively I have a vague memory that elmo's done it in the past | 10:19 |
cprov | cjwatson: yes, elmo has done it for the past series. | 10:20 |
SteveA | if so, I'd be more comfortable with elmo doing it. If you think it's a great advantage for it to happen today, and elmo isn't available, then let me know. | 10:20 |
* cjwatson <- not really sure why distroseries operations tend to need Launchpad.admin in the first place, but never mind. :) | 10:21 | |
cjwatson | ok, thanks | 10:21 |
cjwatson | elmo: when you're available ...? | 10:21 |
cprov | cjwatson: mthaddon also has the super-powers ;) | 10:21 |
mthaddon | cjwatson, what do you need? | 10:22 |
bigjools | this sounds like another good use for the new permissioning stuff | 10:27 |
sabdfl | hey Hobbsee | 10:30 |
cjwatson | mthaddon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu, then I think it's "Add series" (I can't see it); parameters are intrepid, "The Intrepid Ibex", 8.10, and I can fill in the rest; also "Administer" after that's created, set the status to "Pre-release freeze", and the announcement address to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com | 10:31 |
mthaddon | cjwatson, I have name, display name, title, summary, description, version, parent series as required values - let me know what I should go for for each | 10:34 |
cjwatson | name: intrepid, display name: Intrepid, title: The Intrepid Ibex, summary and description: fill in dummy values and I can edit them afterwards; version: 8.10, parent series: The Hardy Heron | 10:35 |
mthaddon | cjwatson, that's done (with the pre-release freeze and announcement address as well) | 10:37 |
cjwatson | (names/titles are in line with /ubuntu/hardy) | 10:37 |
mthaddon | cjwatson, should I change the registrant? (currently me) | 10:37 |
cjwatson | thanks, looks good | 10:37 |
cjwatson | mthaddon: registrant for previous distroseries has been techboard, which I think is right | 10:38 |
mthaddon | cjwatson, ok, that's changed | 10:38 |
cjwatson | excellent, looks ready for initialisation | 10:40 |
mthaddon | cool | 10:40 |
ubotu | New bug: #222363 in update-manager "Encountered a section with no Package - Hardy Heron" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222363 | 10:47 |
ubotu | New bug: #222235 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails reading sources (dup-of: 222363)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222235 | 10:57 |
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mpt | Goooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 12:00 |
rexium | hey everyone. I am having a problem with large uploads to my ppa timeing out. Any suggestions? | 12:10 |
intellectronica | cprov or bigjools might know | 12:11 |
bigjools | rexium: please post a question to answers.launchpad.net/soyuz | 12:12 |
bigjools | and put as much detail in it as possible | 12:13 |
rexium | I was wondering if this might have had to do with general launchpad slowness of late... | 12:13 |
rexium | ok will do | 12:13 |
bigjools | rexium: it's possible, the servers are still being hammered from the Hardy release | 12:14 |
rexium | bigjools: that seems to make sense, as it only started after the release | 12:14 |
bigjools | rexium: thanks, someone will look at your question later | 12:15 |
ubotu | New bug: #223602 in malone "Bug status transition records for old changes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223602 | 12:16 |
rexium | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/31166 | 12:19 |
rexium | bigjools: ^ | 12:19 |
bigjools | thanks | 12:19 |
rexium | I am trying another upload and will report back if anything different occurs | 12:20 |
cjwatson | archive.ubuntu.com hasn't updated yet for the creation of intrepid; is this just because it's hammered, rather than because the syncing is broken? | 12:20 |
cjwatson | oh, I spoke too soon, there it is | 12:20 |
cjwatson | only on some of the rotation though | 12:20 |
mok0 | I get the following message from my ppa, which puzzles me a bit: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive. Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification. | 12:40 |
wgrant | mok0: How is that puzzling? | 12:44 |
mok0 | wgrant: I think I have figured it out... I have modified a package that already exists in universe | 12:45 |
wgrant | Correct. Increment the version. | 12:45 |
mok0 | wgrant: I am trying that as we speak :-) | 12:45 |
mok0 | wgrant: actually, I have the release incremented. | 12:46 |
wgrant | mok0: Did you change the .orig.tar.gz? | 12:48 |
mok0 | wgrant: It's a repackaged tarball, so probably yes. It likely has a different md5 sum | 12:49 |
mok0 | wgrant: If you compress the same file twice, it gets another md5sum | 12:50 |
wgrant | mok0: Right, you'll need to increment the upstream version. | 12:50 |
mok0 | wgrant: Can't I just make a no-source upload? | 12:51 |
wgrant | mok0: You mean diff-only? You'd need to convince the .dsc that it wanted to point at the old tarball. | 12:55 |
wgrant | Or just not modify the tarball in the first place. | 12:55 |
mok0 | wgrant: Right, I use the tarball from the archive now | 12:56 |
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mok0 | wgrant: I didn't realize that the ppa's were integrated with the main archives this way | 12:58 |
mok0 | Yay it worked now | 13:14 |
Hobbsee | belated afternoon, mpt! | 13:24 |
timlinux | hi launchpadders | 14:03 |
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timlinux | anyone about? | 14:35 |
Hobbsee | no. we're all dead. | 14:36 |
timlinux | Im trying to figure out what to do when package 'a'I am building depends on package 'b' which is in a different ppa | 14:36 |
timlinux | Hobbsee: nice to see the dead can talk :-) | 14:36 |
Hobbsee | timlinux: hit 'edit dependancies' on the side of a's ppa | 14:36 |
Hobbsee | and put in b's ppa | 14:37 |
* Hobbsee is very skilled in being dead. | 14:37 | |
timlinux | oh cool | 14:37 |
* wgrant buries Hobbsee. | 14:37 | |
* Hobbsee coughs up dirt | 14:37 | |
wgrant | Corpses don't cough, fortunately. | 14:37 |
Hobbsee | depends how skilled they are. | 14:38 |
wgrant | True. | 14:38 |
timlinux | if they can talk I reckon they can *cough* | 14:48 |
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xhaker | Hi. Someone care to explain me how PPA work in regards to deleting packages? | 17:40 |
afflux | xhaker: not very much detail: you select a package for deleting and it will be removed some time later, IIRC | 17:41 |
xhaker | afflux: the page that allows copying packages shows removed packages though | 17:44 |
xhaker | so that's a bit confusing | 17:44 |
afflux | copying? huh | 17:45 |
afflux | that seems to be new :P | 17:45 |
bigjools | so new, it's only on edge | 17:46 |
afflux | I'm on edge. I just never saw it before ;) | 17:46 |
bigjools | enjoy :) | 17:47 |
afflux | xhaker: not sure, this may be related to bug 184490 | 17:48 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 184490 in soyuz "Deleted PPA packages still displayed on +packages page" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184490 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan) | 17:48 |
bigjools | xhaker: can you try on staging, if it still shows deleted packages on there can you file a bug please | 17:49 |
afflux | hm, looking further, it doesn't. My copy-packages page shows lots of packages while +packages doesn't | 17:50 |
bigjools | afflux: your copy page shows deleted packages? | 17:57 |
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ubotu | New bug: #223757 in rosetta "XPI import fails to descend into jar files" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223757 | 18:18 |
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ubotu | New bug: #223797 in launchpad "mailing list requests and rejections should include reason" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223797 | 19:44 |
ubotu | New bug: #223785 in malone "impossible de patler francais sur ce sacré site ... que faire ???" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223785 | 19:46 |
ubotu | New bug: #223765 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Handle "bare" email addresses when changing bug tracker details" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223765 | 19:52 |
smagoun | I need some help with private bugs in LP, any LP admins around? | 20:48 |
thumper | smagoun: what's your question? | 21:02 |
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