=== RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [03:10] New bug: #223406 in launchpad-bazaar "we call requestMirror way too often" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223406 === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [07:06] New bug: #223479 in malone "dpkg lock file constantly created after adding Medibuntu repository " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223479 [07:17] morning [07:21] New bug: #223482 in launchpad "Launchpad should make external files cacheable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223482 === stdin_ is now known as stdin [09:10] New bug: #223522 in meta-lp-deps "Add `fakeroot` dependency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223522 [09:13] * Hobbsee waves to allenap [09:13] Hi Hobbsee :) [09:13] :) [09:16] Heya Hobbsee. [09:16] New bug: #217891 in apport (main) "502 error on reporting big crash reports (dup-of: 95822)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217891 [09:16] RAOF! [09:17] Hobbsee: I've got a shiny old CRT to test nouveau on, thanks to council cleanup day. Yay discarded working stuff! [09:18] RAOF: nice work! [09:18] I've now got the full set - LVDS, DVI and VGA :) [09:19] On the down side, my arms are now rubbery. [09:33] RAOF: now all you need is DisplayPort [09:33] and HDMI [09:34] hdmi is the same as dvi, plus sound [09:35] morning mrevell [09:35] and encryption [09:35] hi hi [09:36] jamesh: DisplayPort? Is that some Apple thing? [09:37] wgrant: nope. It is the successor to DVI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort [09:37] potentially also the successor to HDMI [09:37] yay for standards, there's so many to choose from [09:37] jamesh: But you can get (and I've got) DVI->HDMI cables, so the encryption isn't mandatory. [09:37] jamesh: Ah, better. [09:40] it is also meant to be the successor to LVDS [09:40] so it should result in a net decrease in display technologies once it takes over [09:41] jamesh: Except that something will probably overtake it first. [09:41] And fragment the market. [09:41] Again. [09:43] well, it beats DVI where you need to increase the pin count every time you hit the maximum resolution [09:44] Didn't know you needed to do that. [09:44] well, you can always drop the refresh rate to get higher resolutions [09:44] but there is an upper limit on the bandwidth of a single DVI link [09:45] if you exceed that limit you need dual link DVI (all pins in the DVI connector hooked up rather than half) or more [09:47] DisplayPort has lovely provisions for DRM, I see. Determining proximity!? Ew. [09:48] probably similar technology to that used in ethernet cable testers [09:48] I'd assume so, but still seems like overkill. [09:51] Hi all [09:53] I can't find anywhere what are dependancies in PPA (there is a link, named "Edit depentancies" in left menu) [09:53] Maybe anyone could point me to some info ? [09:54] * Hobbsee grins [09:54] mantiena-baltix: They're useful if you want to build-depend on packages in other PPAs. [09:54] * Hobbsee has already reported that as a bug. [09:54] but what wgrant said [09:54] Although one can copy packages to serve that purpose these days. [09:55] mantiena-baltix: with ppa, the buildd handles deps in this order (iirc) packages in the ppa > packages in ppa dependacies > ubuntu archive [09:58] rexium: not in a specific order, apt will install the highest version available from any of those locations. [09:59] wgrant, rexium: so, I should add telepathy PPA into my PPA depentancies if I wanna build empathy for Gutsy and wanna have newer build-depentances from telepathy PPA [09:59] mantiena-baltix: Correct. [10:00] New bug: #223546 in launchpad "FAQ hit links in launchpad answers do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223546 [10:01] morning sabdfl [10:03] bigjools: Yay! I see s-i-s is actually happening! [10:03] wgrant: indeed - it needs some infrastructure work yet but the code is all done [10:03] barring any bugs anyway :) [10:03] wgrant: will that be reserved for intrepid now, after a few months of testing in parallel withthe current dak? [10:09] Hey folks - I'd like the aid of a Launchpad admin to create the intrepid distroseries for Ubuntu [10:09] I can fill in the blanks, once the distroseries exists and has its announcement address set to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com [10:10] also, it should have its upload status set to "Pre-release freeze" for now [10:15] cjwatson: SteveA might be able to help since kiko is away [10:15] SteveA: ^-- [10:15] hello cjwatson [10:15] SteveA: it's been tested as far as running initialise-from-parent successfully on dogfood, FYI [10:16] (thanks to cprov) [10:17] kiko is back on wednesday. can it wait until then? [10:18] I wouldn't say it's super-urgent, but it's near the start of a fairly long chain of dependencies in getting the next release cycle going so I would like to start sooner rather than later [10:18] but if Wednesday is the way it has to be ... [10:18] I've never done it, so I'd be acting as automatic waldos for bigjools and cprov. [10:19] alternatively I have a vague memory that elmo's done it in the past [10:20] cjwatson: yes, elmo has done it for the past series. [10:20] if so, I'd be more comfortable with elmo doing it. If you think it's a great advantage for it to happen today, and elmo isn't available, then let me know. [10:21] * cjwatson <- not really sure why distroseries operations tend to need Launchpad.admin in the first place, but never mind. :) [10:21] ok, thanks [10:21] elmo: when you're available ...? [10:21] cjwatson: mthaddon also has the super-powers ;) [10:22] cjwatson, what do you need? [10:27] this sounds like another good use for the new permissioning stuff [10:30] hey Hobbsee [10:31] mthaddon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu, then I think it's "Add series" (I can't see it); parameters are intrepid, "The Intrepid Ibex", 8.10, and I can fill in the rest; also "Administer" after that's created, set the status to "Pre-release freeze", and the announcement address to intrepid-changes@lists.ubuntu.com [10:34] cjwatson, I have name, display name, title, summary, description, version, parent series as required values - let me know what I should go for for each [10:35] name: intrepid, display name: Intrepid, title: The Intrepid Ibex, summary and description: fill in dummy values and I can edit them afterwards; version: 8.10, parent series: The Hardy Heron [10:37] cjwatson, that's done (with the pre-release freeze and announcement address as well) [10:37] (names/titles are in line with /ubuntu/hardy) [10:37] cjwatson, should I change the registrant? (currently me) [10:37] thanks, looks good [10:38] mthaddon: registrant for previous distroseries has been techboard, which I think is right [10:38] cjwatson, ok, that's changed [10:40] excellent, looks ready for initialisation [10:40] cool [10:47] New bug: #222363 in update-manager "Encountered a section with no Package - Hardy Heron" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222363 [10:57] New bug: #222235 in update-manager (main) "update-manager fails reading sources (dup-of: 222363)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/222235 === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:00] Goooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [12:10] hey everyone. I am having a problem with large uploads to my ppa timeing out. Any suggestions? [12:11] cprov or bigjools might know [12:12] rexium: please post a question to answers.launchpad.net/soyuz [12:13] and put as much detail in it as possible [12:13] I was wondering if this might have had to do with general launchpad slowness of late... [12:13] ok will do [12:14] rexium: it's possible, the servers are still being hammered from the Hardy release [12:14] bigjools: that seems to make sense, as it only started after the release [12:15] rexium: thanks, someone will look at your question later [12:16] New bug: #223602 in malone "Bug status transition records for old changes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223602 [12:19] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/31166 [12:19] bigjools: ^ [12:19] thanks [12:20] I am trying another upload and will report back if anything different occurs [12:20] archive.ubuntu.com hasn't updated yet for the creation of intrepid; is this just because it's hammered, rather than because the syncing is broken? [12:20] oh, I spoke too soon, there it is [12:20] only on some of the rotation though [12:40] I get the following message from my ppa, which puzzles me a bit: MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive. Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification. [12:44] mok0: How is that puzzling? [12:45] wgrant: I think I have figured it out... I have modified a package that already exists in universe [12:45] Correct. Increment the version. [12:45] wgrant: I am trying that as we speak :-) [12:46] wgrant: actually, I have the release incremented. [12:48] mok0: Did you change the .orig.tar.gz? [12:49] wgrant: It's a repackaged tarball, so probably yes. It likely has a different md5 sum [12:50] wgrant: If you compress the same file twice, it gets another md5sum [12:50] mok0: Right, you'll need to increment the upstream version. [12:51] wgrant: Can't I just make a no-source upload? [12:55] mok0: You mean diff-only? You'd need to convince the .dsc that it wanted to point at the old tarball. [12:55] Or just not modify the tarball in the first place. [12:56] wgrant: Right, I use the tarball from the archive now === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [12:58] wgrant: I didn't realize that the ppa's were integrated with the main archives this way [13:14] Yay it worked now [13:24] belated afternoon, mpt! [14:03] hi launchpadders === asac_ is now known as asac [14:35] anyone about? [14:36] no. we're all dead. [14:36] Im trying to figure out what to do when package 'a'I am building depends on package 'b' which is in a different ppa [14:36] Hobbsee: nice to see the dead can talk :-) [14:36] timlinux: hit 'edit dependancies' on the side of a's ppa [14:37] and put in b's ppa [14:37] * Hobbsee is very skilled in being dead. [14:37] oh cool [14:37] * wgrant buries Hobbsee. [14:37] * Hobbsee coughs up dirt [14:37] Corpses don't cough, fortunately. [14:38] depends how skilled they are. [14:38] True. [14:48] if they can talk I reckon they can *cough* === niemeyer_ is now known as niemeyer === mtaylor is now known as mtaylor|away === beuno_ is now known as beuno === abentle1 is now known as abentley === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [17:40] Hi. Someone care to explain me how PPA work in regards to deleting packages? [17:41] xhaker: not very much detail: you select a package for deleting and it will be removed some time later, IIRC [17:44] afflux: the page that allows copying packages shows removed packages though [17:44] so that's a bit confusing [17:45] copying? huh [17:45] that seems to be new :P [17:46] so new, it's only on edge [17:46] I'm on edge. I just never saw it before ;) [17:47] enjoy :) [17:48] xhaker: not sure, this may be related to bug 184490 [17:48] Launchpad bug 184490 in soyuz "Deleted PPA packages still displayed on +packages page" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184490 - Assigned to Muharem Hrnjadovic (al-maisan) [17:49] xhaker: can you try on staging, if it still shows deleted packages on there can you file a bug please [17:50] hm, looking further, it doesn't. My copy-packages page shows lots of packages while +packages doesn't [17:57] afflux: your copy page shows deleted packages? === rexium is now known as rexbron [18:18] New bug: #223757 in rosetta "XPI import fails to descend into jar files" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223757 === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === fta_ is now known as fta === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [19:44] New bug: #223797 in launchpad "mailing list requests and rejections should include reason" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223797 [19:46] New bug: #223785 in malone "impossible de patler francais sur ce sacré site ... que faire ???" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223785 [19:52] New bug: #223765 in malone "Forward Bugs Upstream to an Email Address: Handle "bare" email addresses when changing bug tracker details" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223765 [20:48] I need some help with private bugs in LP, any LP admins around? [21:02] smagoun: what's your question? === mtaylor|away is now known as mtaylor