[05:25] Quick question: in 8.04 server install, it prompts for a proxy (good), but not for which mirror to use. Booting with "expert" didn't seem to help; what's the boot parameters to set the debian mirror host/path strings? === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_lunch === davmor2_lunch is now known as davmor2 [14:54] evand, cjwatson when you have a few mins can we go over the outstanding wubi bugs are per email? [14:57] indeed, already looking over it [15:11] basically I have been talking to bean123 and tinybit re multi disk order [15:11] the solution is simply to not set root in menu.lst since that menu.lst is loaded via find + configfile which already sets the root [15:12] they are also looking into addressing grub4dos limitations with respect to certain BIOS (gate A20 problems, not on the email) [15:13] they have prepared a build using Grub2 code for handling the gate A20 requests that seems to behave better [15:13] very preliminary at this stage [15:14] are they unwilling to port that to grub 1? I have doubts that Ubuntu will switch to grub 2 in the near-term. [15:14] for the accented OS names, in m-a, I would need some workaround before point release, or I'll have a french revolution under my flat [15:14] lol [15:14] I think a proper fix is in order, which I'm looking into [15:15] evand thta is not all of grub2 only the chunk of code that handles gate A20 which has been ported into grub4dos [15:15] ahhhh [15:15] I misread [15:15] see the last messages of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766776 [15:18] evand a proper fix will mean that I would have to ship temp wubi targeting daily ISO correct? [15:18] if so we can also handle the menu.lst. [15:19] "groot=(hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks" => "groot=()/ubuntu/disks" [15:19] no matter what, there are probably going to be changes that require Wubi uses the daily live CDs. [15:20] The 8.04.1 release is not until early July [15:20] indeed [15:21] the alternative is to have a build wich uses hooks/preseed to apply workarounds, but I do not think it is that desirable [15:21] even though it would be easier for users (all I have to say is "use this version of Wubi"...) [15:21] without having to change ISO/CD and such [15:22] I would tend to agree that daily ISO is better though [15:22] I'd assume they would be quite stable anyway at this stage [15:22] yeah, going back to patching files is not something I'd like to do. [15:23] "groot=()/ubuntu/disks" [15:23] how do you feel about ^? [15:23] sounds fine to me [15:26] we can already ask ubuntu-testing to sed -i "s:(hd.*):():" /host/ubuntu/disks/grub/menu.lst [15:26] can you post the above on ubuntu-testing maybe? [15:28] bug #217348 [15:28] Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217348 [15:29] sudo sed -i "s:(hd.*):():" /host/ubuntu/disks/boot/grub/menu.lst [15:29] davmor2: ^ whenever you have a chance. [15:29] that is, to give that a try [15:30] How do you feel about adding jkdefragcmd.exe to wubi in order to defragment swap.disk? [15:30] That is assuming that Lamont cannot fix it on the Linux side [15:31] As for the 256 MB memory "error", there was a nice suggestion to transfor the error into a warning. [15:31] evand sorry what am I checking exactly? [15:31] Something like "You have XMB, while 256MB are required by the installer. You can choose to continue but it may not work" [15:32] davmor2: we want to check that you can still boot into a loopinstallation when we do not set root in menu.lst [15:32] even better if you have multiple harddisks [15:32] See my last 2 comments in 217348 [15:33] I tested it myself yesterday (1 harddisk) and it works well [15:33] xivulon: error->warning> sounds reasonable, though I'm not sure on what the rules will be governing translation changes. [15:33] evand that is what I wanted to ask... [15:33] I would prefer an untraslated string anyway, since that is creating some confusion [15:34] why is the translated string creating confusion? [15:35] The error is, because people say that 256 MB are required and the app exits. And they *think* they have 256MB (while in fact it is slightly less than that). [15:35] s/say/see/ [15:36] well, assuming we can change the translations, the text can be changed to reflect that. [15:36] davmor2: can you still reproduce bug #207137? [15:37] Launchpad bug 207137 in wubi "Wubi fails to install from my cd-rw but does from my dvd-rw" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207137 [15:37] "Please note that your system may reserve memory that is not included in this total" or something similar [15:37] I would simply put what memory I am seeing: You have 255MB while 256MB are required, do you want to continue anyway? [15:37] xivulon: I shall check later at the moment though I'm using that machine for screenshots for the testing wiki. [15:39] xivulon: ok [15:40] xivulon: So let me check I got this right you want me to install from wubi then once installed run the sed...... line in terminal and check if it boots is that it? [15:41] ah I need a "g" at the end of the sed, that basically has to replace all instances of "(hdX,Y)" with "()" [15:41] the idea being that we have to use groot only to set the relative path, but not the root device [15:41] * xivulon wish LP comments could be editable [15:42] xivulon: they are [15:43] ah no sorry me going mad :P it's the initial report that is editable :) [15:45] few minutes and I'll let you know [15:46] thx [15:49] evand, for the impatient french chaps out there, is there a way to disable m-a via preseeding? [15:51] You know, we already took away the world cup, the guys are a bit sensitive... [15:51] `ubiquity migration-assistant/partitions ` should do it. [15:51] can leave all the other lines as the are correct? [15:52] can you elaborate? [15:52] I have a full block for m-a with preseeding users, items etc [15:52] Do I have to comment those out? [15:55] xivulon: just to let you know by the way I got a base unit with vista on now and it just ran the wubi without a hic-cup [15:55] from cd [15:55] ah, no you do not [15:56] xivulon: so it doesn't run correctly from my laptop but it does from my base unit :) [15:57] evand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8514/ is it 1,2,3, or 4? [15:59] #4 [15:59] davmor2, weird I would guess that the laptop has a single HD, you can check waht partition is set as the default one, by pressing ESC at the countdown [15:59] then C to get the grub console and there you can use cat /[TAB [15:59] ] [15:59] xivulon: no laptop has 2 drives [16:00] quite a laptop you have there :) good, pls do the grubshell tests [16:00] evand thanks [16:01] xivulon: no problem, I'll keep you posted on the proper fix [16:01] xivulon: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01182573&lc=en&cc=uk&dlc=en&os=2093&product=3562433&rule=5749&lang=en [16:03] evand post in the bug as I think france is subscribed [16:03] haha, ok [16:04] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4822827&postcount=24 [16:11] xivulon: how should the sed command look in full then please? [16:12] You can edit manually, basically in the line that you use to boot it should be: [16:12] root ()/ubuntu/disks [16:12] as opposed to root (hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks [16:12] right okay np's [16:13] if you cannot boot, you should be able to open a grub shell during the 5s countdown after selecting "Ubuntu" by pressing esc and then "c" [16:14] cat /[HIT TAB KEY] should list the files on the current devices, that would show if we are on target or not [16:19] xivulon: seems to be okay. It booted up and I'm back in the desktop so.... [16:19] ah great! [16:19] I will add a patch for grub-installer tonight then! thanks a bunch [16:21] xivulon: no probs as for the other probably won't be able to test till tomorrow and I'll add to the bug report as to whether it's fixed or not [16:31] davmor2: the CD2ISO issue is certainly not fixed, I am still clueless the CD2ISO program is in fact quite simple not sure why it fails [16:32] evand here is the patch for grub-installer to fix the multi-disk issue in wubi https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/217348/comments/5 [16:32] Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Confirmed] [16:32] xivulon: would it help to have log files from the cd and log files from the dvd? [16:33] xivulon: So you can see what the differences are? [16:34] hmm no I would have to do a small C stand-alone program off wubi/src/CD2ISO with lots of logging or better debugging symbols [16:35] xivulon: this is for bug #207137 [16:35] Launchpad bug 207137 in wubi "Wubi fails to install from my cd-rw but does from my dvd-rw" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207137 [16:35] yes [16:35] okay as long as we are on about the same thing :) [16:37] I will has hampus to do the stand alone, or I will provide that tonight/tomorrow [16:37] s/has/ask/ [16:43] good hampus is around, davmor2 he should upload a cd2iso executable to #207137, that will generate lots of logs + debugging symbols. So you should be able to attach any trace tool. [16:45] the idea is to test cd2is in stand alone mode without any nsis noise [16:45] xivulon: okay it still won't be till tomorrow. So with that exe do you want both cd and dvd logs? [16:46] yes please, hopefully the crash will be replicated with the exe. You can also try to attach windbg. [16:46] well it's not really a crash... More like a failure [16:47] xivulon: where's windbg likely to be? [16:48] hellow [16:49] I am hoping someone can point to a solution on using gutsy netboot on a tg3 installer [16:49] xivulon: if you add the location of any logs you want to the bug I'll upload the lot to the bug. [16:49] Got to go now though [16:56] evand, see grub-installer patch ^ [16:58] ok [17:02] i am using pxeboot to kick off gutsy netboot ubuntu-installer [17:03] the ubuntu-installer then calls kickstart [17:05] all is well until the installer scans for the NICs - when this happens, the tg3 loses link [17:07] the tg3 comes back - when I 'retry network autoconfiguration' the tg3 goes away again [17:08] i lose the tg3 a total of two time - on the third try it is fine [17:17] why would the 'detecting network hardware' cause the tg3 to lose link [17:22] is this more appropriate for a different channel? [17:32] nrg: this is the right channel, I just don't know the answer to your question. [18:24] cjwatson, would you be opposed to milestoning bug 219192 for the point release? The fix is fairly harmless [18:24] Launchpad bug 219192 in casper "[hardy] livecd: keyword "persistent" results in busybox and (initramfs)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219192 [18:28] ah whoops, that's entirely my fault [19:45] mario_limonciell: fine by me [19:46] cjwatson, okay thanks. milestoned [19:49] cjwatson: where do gfxboot translations come from? [20:09] bdmurray: gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package [20:10] cjwatson: I got that far, are they done in Launchpad though? [20:10] yes. [20:10] usual place for source package translations, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu [20:10] (the /hardy is the bit that's easy to forget; the translations facet works a bit differently from the others) [20:11] right, I think hardy is the part I missed. Are translation updates possible for 8.04.1? [20:12] yes, in principle anyway [21:40] verson 8.04 is hangin up at login page...im trying to install this is happening duringthe install [23:54] getting some squashfs error reports http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4823777&postcount=6 [23:58] i have two interfaces - eth0 (wireless) and eth1 (wired) [23:58] is there away via a kernel option to enumerate the wired as eth0?