[05:25] <twb> Quick question: in 8.04 server install, it prompts for a proxy (good), but not for which mirror to use.  Booting with "expert" didn't seem to help; what's the boot parameters to set the debian mirror host/path strings?
[14:54] <xivulon> evand, cjwatson when you have a few mins can we go over the outstanding wubi bugs are per email?
[14:57] <evand> indeed, already looking over it
[15:11] <xivulon> basically I have been talking to bean123 and tinybit re multi disk order
[15:11] <xivulon> the solution is simply to not set root in menu.lst since that menu.lst is loaded via find + configfile which already sets the root
[15:12] <xivulon> they are also looking into addressing grub4dos limitations with respect to certain BIOS (gate A20 problems, not on the email)
[15:13] <xivulon> they have prepared a build using Grub2 code for handling the gate A20 requests that seems to behave better
[15:13] <xivulon> very preliminary at this stage
[15:14] <evand> are they unwilling to port that to grub 1?  I have doubts that Ubuntu will switch to grub 2 in the near-term.
[15:14] <xivulon> for the accented OS names, in m-a, I would need some workaround before point release, or I'll have a french revolution under my flat
[15:14] <evand> lol
[15:14] <evand> I think a proper fix is in order, which I'm looking into
[15:15] <xivulon> evand thta is not all of grub2 only the chunk of code that handles gate A20 which has been ported into grub4dos
[15:15] <evand> ahhhh
[15:15] <evand> I misread
[15:15] <xivulon> see the last messages of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766776
[15:18] <xivulon> evand a proper fix will mean that I would have to ship temp wubi targeting daily ISO correct?
[15:18] <xivulon> if so we can also handle the menu.lst.
[15:19] <xivulon> "groot=(hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks" => "groot=()/ubuntu/disks"
[15:19] <evand> no matter what, there are probably going to be changes that require Wubi uses the daily live CDs.
[15:20] <evand> The 8.04.1 release is not until early July
[15:20] <evand> indeed
[15:21] <xivulon> the alternative is to have a build wich uses hooks/preseed to apply workarounds, but I do not think it is that desirable
[15:21] <xivulon> even though it would be easier for users (all I have to say is "use this version of Wubi"...)
[15:21] <xivulon> without having to change ISO/CD and such
[15:22] <xivulon> I would tend to agree that daily ISO is better though
[15:22] <xivulon> I'd assume they would be quite stable anyway at this stage
[15:22] <evand> yeah, going back to patching files is not something I'd like to do.
[15:23] <xivulon> "groot=()/ubuntu/disks"
[15:23] <xivulon> how do you feel about ^?
[15:23] <evand> sounds fine to me
[15:26] <xivulon> we can already ask ubuntu-testing to sed -i "s:(hd.*):():" /host/ubuntu/disks/grub/menu.lst
[15:26] <xivulon> can you post the above on ubuntu-testing maybe?
[15:28] <xivulon> bug #217348
[15:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217348
[15:29] <xivulon> sudo sed -i "s:(hd.*):():" /host/ubuntu/disks/boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:29] <evand> davmor2: ^ whenever you have a chance.
[15:29] <evand> that is, to give that a try
[15:30] <xivulon> How do you feel about adding jkdefragcmd.exe to wubi in order to defragment swap.disk?
[15:30] <xivulon> That is assuming that Lamont cannot fix it on the Linux side
[15:31] <xivulon> As for the 256 MB memory "error", there was a nice suggestion to transfor the error into a warning.
[15:31] <davmor2> evand sorry what am I checking exactly?
[15:31] <xivulon> Something like "You have XMB, while 256MB are required by the installer. You can choose to continue but it may not work"
[15:32] <xivulon> davmor2: we want to check that you can still boot into a loopinstallation when we do not set root in menu.lst
[15:32] <xivulon> even better if you have multiple harddisks
[15:32] <xivulon> See my last 2 comments in 217348
[15:33] <xivulon> I tested it myself yesterday (1 harddisk) and it works well
[15:33] <evand> xivulon: error->warning> sounds reasonable, though I'm not sure on what the rules will be governing translation changes.
[15:33] <xivulon> evand that is what I wanted to ask...
[15:33] <xivulon> I would prefer an untraslated string anyway, since that is creating some confusion
[15:34] <evand> why is the translated string creating confusion?
[15:35] <xivulon> The error is, because people say that 256 MB are required and the app exits. And they *think* they have 256MB (while in fact it is slightly less than that).
[15:35] <xivulon> s/say/see/
[15:36] <evand> well, assuming we can change the translations, the text can be changed to reflect that.
[15:36] <xivulon> davmor2: can you still reproduce bug #207137?
[15:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 207137 in wubi "Wubi fails to install from my cd-rw but does from my dvd-rw" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207137
[15:37] <evand> "Please note that your system may reserve memory that is not included in this total" or something similar
[15:37] <xivulon> I would simply put what memory I am seeing: You have 255MB while 256MB are required, do you want to continue anyway?
[15:37] <davmor2> xivulon: I shall check later at the moment though I'm using that machine for screenshots for the testing wiki.
[15:39] <evand> xivulon: ok
[15:40] <davmor2> xivulon: So let me check I got this right you want me to install from wubi then once installed run the sed...... line in terminal and check if it boots is that it?
[15:41] <xivulon> ah I need a "g" at the end of the sed, that basically has to replace all instances of "(hdX,Y)" with "()"
[15:41] <xivulon> the idea being that we have to use groot only to set the relative path, but not the root device
[15:41]  * xivulon wish LP comments could be editable
[15:42] <davmor2> xivulon: they are
[15:43] <davmor2> ah no sorry me going mad :P it's the initial report that is editable :)
[15:45] <davmor2> few minutes and I'll let you know
[15:46] <xivulon> thx
[15:49] <xivulon> evand, for the impatient french chaps out there, is there a way to disable m-a via preseeding?
[15:51] <xivulon> You know, we already took away the world cup, the guys are a bit sensitive...
[15:51] <evand> `ubiquity migration-assistant/partitions  ` should do it.
[15:51] <xivulon> can leave all the other lines as the are correct?
[15:52] <evand> can you elaborate?
[15:52] <xivulon> I have a full block for m-a with preseeding users, items etc
[15:52] <xivulon> Do I have to comment those out?
[15:55] <davmor2> xivulon: just to let you know by the way I got a base unit with vista on now and it just ran the wubi without a hic-cup
[15:55] <davmor2> from cd
[15:55] <evand> ah, no you do not
[15:56] <davmor2> xivulon: so it doesn't run correctly from my laptop but it does from my base unit :)
[15:57] <xivulon> evand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8514/   is it 1,2,3, or 4?
[15:59] <evand> #4
[15:59] <xivulon> davmor2, weird I would guess that the laptop has a single HD, you can check waht partition is set as the default one, by pressing ESC at the countdown
[15:59] <xivulon> then C to get the grub console and there you can use cat /[TAB
[15:59] <xivulon> ]
[15:59] <davmor2> xivulon: no laptop has 2 drives
[16:00] <xivulon> quite a laptop you have there :) good, pls do the grubshell tests
[16:00] <xivulon> evand thanks
[16:01] <evand> xivulon: no problem, I'll keep you posted on the proper fix
[16:01] <davmor2> xivulon: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01182573&lc=en&cc=uk&dlc=en&os=2093&product=3562433&rule=5749&lang=en
[16:03] <xivulon> evand post in the bug as I think france is subscribed
[16:03] <evand> haha, ok
[16:04] <xivulon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4822827&postcount=24
[16:11] <davmor2> xivulon: how should the sed command look in full then please?
[16:12] <xivulon> You can edit manually, basically in the line that you use to boot it should be:
[16:12] <xivulon> root ()/ubuntu/disks
[16:12] <xivulon> as opposed to root (hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks
[16:12] <davmor2> right okay np's
[16:13] <xivulon> if you cannot boot, you should be able to open a grub shell during the 5s countdown after selecting "Ubuntu" by pressing esc and then "c"
[16:14] <xivulon> cat /[HIT TAB KEY] should list the files on the current devices, that would show if we are on target or not
[16:19] <davmor2> xivulon: seems to be okay.  It booted up and I'm back in the desktop so....
[16:19] <xivulon> ah great!
[16:19] <xivulon> I will add a patch for grub-installer tonight then! thanks a bunch
[16:21] <davmor2> xivulon: no probs as for the other probably won't be able to test till tomorrow and I'll add to the bug report as to whether it's fixed or not
[16:31] <xivulon> davmor2: the CD2ISO issue is certainly not fixed, I am still clueless the CD2ISO program is in fact quite simple not sure why it fails
[16:32] <xivulon> evand here is the patch for grub-installer to fix the multi-disk issue in wubi  https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/217348/comments/5
[16:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 217348 in wubi "Incorrect disk order detection generates wrong menu.lst" [High,Confirmed]
[16:32] <davmor2> xivulon: would it help to have log files from the cd and log files from the dvd?
[16:33] <davmor2> xivulon: So you can see what the differences are?
[16:34] <xivulon> hmm no I would have to do a small C stand-alone program off wubi/src/CD2ISO with lots of logging or better debugging symbols
[16:35] <davmor2> xivulon: this is for ﻿bug #207137
[16:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 207137 in wubi "Wubi fails to install from my cd-rw but does from my dvd-rw" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/207137
[16:35] <xivulon> yes
[16:35] <davmor2> okay as long as we are on about the same thing :)
[16:37] <xivulon> I will has hampus to do the stand alone, or I will provide that tonight/tomorrow
[16:37] <xivulon> s/has/ask/
[16:43] <xivulon> good hampus is around, davmor2 he should upload a cd2iso executable to #207137, that will generate lots of logs + debugging symbols. So you should be able to attach any trace tool.
[16:45] <xivulon> the idea is to test cd2is in stand alone mode without any nsis noise
[16:45] <davmor2> xivulon: okay it still won't be till tomorrow.  So with that exe do you want both cd and dvd logs?
[16:46] <xivulon> yes please, hopefully the crash will be replicated with the exe. You can also try to attach windbg.
[16:46] <xivulon> well it's not really a crash... More like a failure
[16:47] <davmor2> xivulon: where's windbg likely to be?
[16:48] <nrg> hellow
[16:49] <nrg> I am hoping someone can point to a solution on using gutsy netboot on a tg3 installer
[16:49] <davmor2> xivulon: if you add the location of any logs you want to the bug I'll upload the lot to the bug.
[16:49] <davmor2> Got to go now though
[16:56] <xivulon> evand, see grub-installer patch ^
[16:58] <evand> ok
[17:02] <nrg> i am using pxeboot to kick off gutsy netboot ubuntu-installer
[17:03] <nrg> the ubuntu-installer then calls kickstart
[17:05] <nrg> all is well until the installer scans for the NICs - when this happens, the tg3 loses link
[17:07] <nrg> the tg3 comes back - when I 'retry network autoconfiguration' the tg3 goes away again
[17:08] <nrg> i lose the tg3 a total of two time - on the third try it is fine
[17:17] <nrg> why would the 'detecting network hardware' cause the tg3 to lose link
[17:22] <nrg> is this more appropriate for a different channel?
[17:32] <evand> nrg: this is the right channel, I just don't know the answer to your question.
[18:24] <mario_limonciell> cjwatson, would you be opposed to milestoning bug 219192 for the point release?  The fix is fairly harmless
[18:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 219192 in casper "[hardy] livecd: keyword "persistent" results in busybox and (initramfs)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219192
[18:28] <evand> ah whoops, that's entirely my fault
[19:45] <cjwatson> mario_limonciell: fine by me
[19:46] <mario_limonciell> cjwatson, okay thanks.  milestoned
[19:49] <bdmurray> cjwatson: where do gfxboot translations come from?
[20:09] <cjwatson> bdmurray: gfxboot-theme-ubuntu package
[20:10] <bdmurray> cjwatson: I got that far, are they done in Launchpad though?
[20:10] <cjwatson> yes.
[20:10] <cjwatson> usual place for source package translations, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/gfxboot-theme-ubuntu
[20:10] <cjwatson> (the /hardy is the bit that's easy to forget; the translations facet works a bit differently from the others)
[20:11] <bdmurray> right, I think hardy is the part I missed.  Are translation updates possible for 8.04.1?
[20:12] <cjwatson> yes, in principle anyway
[21:40] <AlabamaHit> verson 8.04 is hangin up at login page...im trying to install this is happening duringthe install
[23:54] <xivulon> getting some squashfs error reports http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4823777&postcount=6
[23:58] <nrg> i have two interfaces - eth0 (wireless) and eth1 (wired)
[23:58] <nrg> is there away via a kernel option to enumerate the wired as eth0?