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ubotuPelo called the ops in #ubuntu (howapt)00:14
RyanPriorThe floodbots appear to be flooding #ubuntu.01:20
RyanPriorEh, it's over now. They randomly spewed 7 lines with no apparent purpose though. Wierd.01:20
ubotugreenmanwitch called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()01:54
xtfusionwhos the ubuntu-offtopic ops?02:04
ubotuIn #ubuntuforums, Moniker42 said: !porc is :porc::inca::dito::love:03:05
vorian+1 on that request03:10
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tonyyarussolol, "the" moderator for #ubuntu...I'd rather be boiled in pudding :)03:37
elky_workhmm?03:37
tonyyarussoelky_work: "didnt realize tonyyarusso was the moderator...."03:38
elky_workhaha03:38
* elky_work annoints tonyyarusso 'the' op.03:38
elky_workso where's this tonyyarusso pudding?03:38
tonyyarussohmm, I suppose I could make some - I do have like six boxes03:38
elky_workyum03:39
elky_workdcc the finished product kthx03:39
tonyyarussokk03:39
ubotuIn #ubuntu-offtopic, xtfusion said: !food is <reply> Hungry04:47
tonyyarussoknow what would be fun?  "anonymous" access for editors :)04:51
jdongtonyyarusso: ubotupedia?04:51
nalioth"What was old, is new again."04:53
elky_worktonyyarusso, depends on your definition of 'fun'04:53
naliothtonyyarusso: we could make you ubereditor, so you could keep out all the wonderful useless cruft04:55
naliothof course, we'd never see you gain04:55
naliothsee you again04:55
tonyyarussojdong, elky_work, nalioth: I believe I've been misunderstood.04:58
tonyyarussoI mean permissions for the "Anonymous" supybot plugin.04:58
tonyyarussofor those with 'editor' capability04:58
elky_worki still dont understand04:58
tonyyarussoelky_work: lets you make ubotu speak04:58
elky_workoh. hell no.04:59
tonyyarussobut then we could mess with people's minds!  :P04:59
* tonyyarusso isn't really serious, but it would be greatly amusing at times04:59
elky_workwhich times? the ones where we make people snap into a rage of conspiracy?04:59
elky_worki'm not sure i can take another 3mth saga05:00
jdonglol05:00
jdongthat's really gonna question everyone's sanity05:00
* tonyyarusso sigh05:00
tonyyarussoy'all don't remember what fun or joking is anymore, but the sadder thing is I know why05:01
tonyyarussojerks.05:01
tonyyarusso(the reasons, not you)05:01
jdongtonyyarusso: these days it's really hard to tell what's a joke and what's serious05:02
elky_workwhat can we say... being villanised for doing our jobs is totally hilarious. i laugh myself to sleep about it each night.05:02
tonyyarussoI know.05:02
Cpudan80Hello all05:03
Cpudan80Can someone check why the floodbot banned me?05:03
Cpudan80or well muted me05:03
Cpudan80I didnt paste or anything.....05:03
Cpudan80Maybe it's not a bug --- it's a feature! :-) Just thought youd like the heads up05:03
elky_workCpudan80, you'll need to give us a time and date, since our bantracker is currently in a coma05:04
Cpudan80elky_work: just now05:04
Cpudan80like within a minute or two ago05:04
tonyyarussoCpudan80: well, it seems like it was removed, although I'm still not sure why05:04
Cpudan80Yeah - I dont think I was ever banned ?05:05
Cpudan80I dont see a +q line...05:05
tonyyarussoCpudan80: nor do I, plus you were talking right before the "removal"05:05
Cpudan80yeah...05:05
tonyyarussoLjL: minor floodbot bug?  ^^05:05
Cpudan80I've had some impersonators on a nick -- Cpudan8O in the past05:05
elky_worktonyyarusso, i saw it picking people up on two lines yesterday, which is a bit extreme since lag can cause a mini-flood05:06
Cpudan80But I think that has subsided 05:06
tonyyarussoCpudan80: thanks for the report - he'll check it out eventually05:06
Cpudan80No problem 05:06
tonyyarussoelky_work: that could be it - maybe the limits were lowered for release day or something05:06
Cpudan80Lag: 0.2seconds05:06
elky_worktonyyarusso, possibly05:06
Cpudan80Anyone - just thought you'd like to know05:10
Cpudan80night all05:10
MyrttiI thought I taw a puttycat05:38
MyrttiI thought I saw tobmalf in -ot backlog but I guess I didn't05:38
elky_worki thought i saw him back in #ubuntu the other day05:39
elky_workMyrtti, did he not used to be called 'tobmaif'?05:40
Madpilothey gnomefreak 05:41
MyrttiI did! I did taw a puttycat!05:41
* Madpilot wonders if he should purr05:41
Myrttithanks tonyyarusso 05:41
* Madpilot also wonders what release day insanity he missed...05:41
elky_workMadpilot, you dont wonder. really you dont.05:42
gnomefreakhi Madpilot 05:42
Madpilotwas planning on helping out, but family obligations kept me in the real world Friday and Saturday.05:43
tonyyarussoMadpilot: there's still plenty of support help to give in #ubuntu though05:44
Myrttiyou're welcome to toss in your .0205:44
Myrtti;-)05:44
Myrttibtw, how usual is it that during the install the installator doesn't make a directory for dbus and the installation aborts there?06:10
Myrttihas anybody been complaining?06:10
naliothMyrtti: i've got lots of complaints after an upgrade to hardy06:12
Myrttiyeah, I thought there might be some complaints06:13
MyrttiI noticed that doing an install with server 64 and installing *-desktop aborts to unresolved dependencies since dbus fails to install06:14
naliothi've got lots of _personal_ complaints06:14
Myrttisudo mkdir /whatever/dbus and the journey continues with dpkg --release -a06:14
Myrttiand aptitude install *-desktop06:15
Madpilotupgrading to hardly borked my xorg. again.06:21
gnomefreakMadpilot: nvidia?06:26
MadpilotATI. 9600XT06:27
MadpilotI just renamed xorg.conf and it was fine. Should have remembered to do that before I restarted the first time.06:27
tonyyarussonalioth: what sort?  was considering one myself.06:28
gnomefreaki kept seeing it with nvidia but installing and running nvidia-config after starting with clean X11/xorg.conf fixed it for me06:28
naliothtonyyarusso: one what?06:28
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: kernels not being updated Xorg breakage a whole bunch of others06:29
gnomefreakmost i got hit with but if you use dist-upgrade instead of update-manager the upgrade is pretty much problem free06:29
gnomefreaknight all its past bed time by a few hours06:30
Madpilotso much for dist-upgrade being depreceated...06:30
naliothgnomefreak: my dist-upgrade didn't work well06:30
naliothi have no sudo at all06:30
gnomefreakoh thats bad06:30
gnomefreak:(06:30
naliothyes, very.  i had to chroot myself a root account06:31
gnomefreakim gonna ping mvo in morning and let me know what ive seen since there are too many to file bugs on atleast at this time of morning06:31
tonyyarussonalioth: upgrade.06:31
naliothtonyyarusso: upgrade to what?06:31
tonyyarusso8.04 of course06:31
tonyyarussowhat you're talking about.06:32
MadpilotAnyone else getting gstreamer video playback issues?06:33
naliothtonyyarusso: i'm post upgrade with these problems06:33
Madpilottotem is playing everything back at half speed...06:33
naliothtonyyarusso: did you not see us initiate this convo about hardy?06:33
tonyyarussonalioth: Oh, nvm.  Saw, didn't comprehend.  You mean just your own issues.06:41
naliothtonyyarusso: major major issues06:53
ubotuIn ubotu, stdin said: no khardy is <reply> Kubuntu Hardy Heron ships with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks; KDE 3 is offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD is commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 is community supported07:42
stdin^ updates, like s/will be/is/ etc07:42
* Hobbsee O.O08:29
Hobbseeemma's gone to development channels too now?08:29
Hobbseei thought banning her from all of userland should be enough for her to get the point.08:30
Madpilottrolls ain't known for brains08:34
Hobbseeoh well, if she turns up again, ban on sight.08:37
Hobbseelooks like she ended up in the wrong place beore08:37
Madpilotwhat's the username?08:38
Hobbseeemma08:38
Madpilotbut already banned from most of the userspace channels?08:38
HobbseeNot to be hating her or anything, but she's lost any right to participate in #*ubuntu* channels by her behaviour, which really hasn't changed, so banning on sight seems in keeping with that08:39
Hobbseeyes08:39
Hobbseeshe's in -bugs, too08:42
* Hobbsee nukes08:43
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elkbuntuHobbsee, she cant honestly expect to get any support from those channels since most people there thing -offtopic is too undisciplined...09:21
elkbuntus/thing/think/09:21
Hobbseeelkbuntu: oh, i doubt she will.09:21
Hobbseeelkbuntu: i really doubt she's actually trying to get support from there, either09:21
elkbuntuHobbsee, if she's trying to get support there then tough09:22
elkbuntuas in, technical support09:22
Hobbseeelkbuntu: perhasp i should have used a forward or something.09:22
elkbuntuto?09:22
Hobbseeoh, i don't know.09:22
Hobbseesomewhere interesting.09:22
* stdin wonders what Hobbsee would define as "interesting" in this case09:23
elkbuntustdin, #gentoo of course, they'd eat her alive there.09:24
Hobbseestdin: i'm sure i couldn't post the names of such channels into a logged one.09:24
Hobbseenow, i *wasn't* quite thinking of that, but you're getting the gist.09:24
elkbuntuHobbsee, indeed, my mistake :)09:24
Hobbseeelkbuntu: any plans to remove her ban from here (re: the usual policy), or is there still no confidence that she'll bring anything new and credible into this channel?09:35
Myrttiis there a way of allowing her to the channel but muting her automatically09:36
Myrttiso those who are intrested in her rambling can do so and others can just zone out09:36
Myrttior of course, use ignore09:37
HobbseeMyrtti: +z, with those who are actually interested going +o?09:37
Myrtti*shrug*09:37
Hobbseethen again, if people arent going to listen to her anyway, then there's little point her putting her opinions in here09:37
Myrttiand I for one don't want to ignore her09:38
Hobbseehmmm09:39
Hobbseeother option is another channel where she gets forwarded to, where those who do want ot participate in discussions with her can join09:39
elkbuntuHobbsee, her own channel09:39
Hobbseeeither way, it's suboptimal leaving her banned with no way of recourse, ever.09:40
Hobbseeelkbuntu: #sparkle-ponies or so?  Yeah, that's not a bad idea.09:40
Myrtti/CSKICKBAN DumpsterBaby we want you to leave, that's the thing that matters09:42
ubotuBodsda called the ops in #ubuntu ()09:43
Myrttikick him09:43
MyrttiI'm not synchronized09:43
MyrttiDumpsterBaby [n=chatzill@001310a8a3e6.click-network.com]09:44
Myrttimight want to set up a ban too09:44
elkbuntuhe came back and flooded again immediately, kb'd now09:44
Myrttithanks09:44
elkbuntufloodbot just unbanned him wtf09:45
elkbuntuoh, the nick ban, is all ok09:45
naliothklined09:45
jussio1!compiz-#kubuntu10:32
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion10:32
jussio1we need to update that. any suggestions?10:32
ikoniajussio1: what is the reason kubuntu shipped without kompiz  ?10:36
jussio1ikonia: that was gutsy. it now ships with it. 10:36
ikoniaoh10:37
ikoniaI thought it was installed and I'd not read anything to suggest other wise, hence my curiosity10:38
ikoniathought I'd missed something interesting10:38
jussio1ikonia: I can change it, but Im too tired/busy to think what ti should be...10:38
ikoniasurly something like "as of hardy kubuntu now includes compiz-fusion as part of the default install. Gutsy users will still have to install this manually10:39
bashcaplease i have warning when login  tell me xrdb command not found10:44
ikonia ikonia> Bodsda: why are you suggesting someone goes into #ubuntu-ops for support ?10:45
ikoniabashca: I said in ubuntu this channel was not for support10:45
ikoniabodsa was leading you down the wrong path10:45
ikoniabashca: I suggest you rejoin #ubuntu and wait longer than 30 seconds for an answer10:45
bashcaikonia, ok 10:45
* jussio1 raises an eyebrow10:46
ikoniaheads up 10:42 < Novek> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free downloads , Fun . Tutorials etc.......... plz register11:12
ikonialurking in #ubuntu11:12
ubotujussi01 called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()11:22
jussi01argh, sorry, shift is too close to enter, slinblade tater or something like that. 11:24
jussi01sigh..11:24
vorian< ~slingblade_tater> 11:38
MyrttiFFS13:02
PriceChildMyrtti: what's up?13:05
MyrttiFujisan came to -ot, first thing he did was !vista13:06
Myrttino, that came after hilighting my nick13:06
PriceChildhmm13:07
ikoniawhy is it tollerated13:07
ikoniahe's made his intentions cleaer ?13:07
ikoniaclear even13:07
elkbuntuMyrtti, he pinged me in #defocus just before13:08
elkbuntuikonia, because he hasnt done anything bad enough, apparantly. unfortunately serial annoyers are quite welcome :(13:08
ikoniathere are a select few who have the blatent intention of being an issue on a persistant basis13:09
elkbuntuikonia, and they get to succeed :(13:09
ikoniathere appear to have recently13:10
ikoniait's not common, it just seems say the last 2 months13:10
elkbuntuyep. there's been alot of leniency the past few months imho13:10
elkbuntuikonia, hold on a sec13:12
ikoniaok13:12
PriceChildSo what's he done?13:13
elkbuntuPriceChild, pinged Myrtti and i in the past few minutes for the sake of pinging us.13:14
ikoniahe trolls the #ubuntu channel trying to get people to press ctrl+alt+del13:14
PriceChildand that should be punished how?13:14
ikoniahe claims he's never been in ubuntu, trolls it, get banned then moves to off-topic13:14
ikonialaughing about it13:14
ikoniathen threatens slashdot against users for banning him13:14
MyrttiFriday he was pain in the hiney complaining about the !vista factoid which is now revised (it should've been even without him complaining)13:15
Myrttiand spamming ANDlinux13:15
elkbuntuadd to all that his general release day behaviour13:16
elkbuntusomewhere on freenode might want these obnoxious people, but im  pretty sure the people of #*buntu* do not given the consensus and whinging he gets in #ubuntu13:18
PriceChildIs he banned from #ubuntu?13:18
elkbuntulast i checked yes. whether he still is, not a clue13:20
ikoniaI thought it got lifted shortly after13:21
ikoniahe has been banned 3 times and it has been lifted 2 times that I'm aware of13:21
elkbuntuprobably. with the bantracker down, it's hard to follow this stuff.13:21
elkbuntudamn sqlite :(13:21
ikoniaMyrtti: as a side issue I've almost finished going through the factoid DB13:23
Myrttiexcellent13:23
elkbuntuok NOW he creeps me13:23
elkbuntunow i'm laughing13:25
ikoniaa better response13:25
Hobbseeelkg13:27
Hobbseeelkbuntu: gotta love this guy. 13:27
Hobbseeelkbuntu: so much for catalysing, or something.13:27
Hobbseesome people can't be catalysed.13:27
elkbuntuikonia, pm me your email please13:28
PriceChildhas emma been banned from #ubuntu-bugs?13:31
Hobbseeyes.13:31
Hobbseelast i checked, that was included in the ubuntu namespace.13:31
HobbseePriceChild: would you mind consulting people *before* you remove their bans?13:32
PriceChildHobbsee: which ban where?13:32
HobbseePriceChild: oh, my bad.  channel wasn't synced :)13:33
HobbseePriceChild: sorry13:33
* Hobbsee saw a blank banlist, and went "hey, now, that's not right"13:33
PriceChild:)13:33
PriceChildwhat did she do in -bugs?13:33
Hobbseedoes it matter?13:34
PriceChildsure13:34
Hobbseeagain, #*ubuntu* wide channel bans are just that.  last i checked, #ubuntu-bugs fit that category13:34
* Hobbsee found her in -devel, so thought to do a /whois.13:34
PriceChildbut she didn't do anything wrong in either channel?13:41
elkbuntuPriceChild, she has shown no hope of being catalysed. we cannot afford her any more time.13:43
* Hobbsee thinks PriceChild fails to understand the concept of a #*ubuntu* wide channel ban, which the irc council agreed to. It actually means all channels that fall into #*ubuntu*, not just the ones she's trolled in before.13:44
Hobbsee(excluding ##)13:44
PriceChildunderstood13:45
HobbseeSo, why the questions?13:46
PriceChildI'm interested as to what has been going on. I haven't accused you of doing the wrong thing, I would just like to catch up atm.13:46
elkbuntuhuh? you've been around the whole time...13:47
PriceChildwell I hadn't heard of any of the bugs or devel issues she's found herself in until now... so i was asking about them?13:49
* Hobbsee points, again, to the idea about a namespace-wide channel ban.13:49
Hobbseei didn't expect her to go into devland, so didn't ban her from them when the original bans came in.13:50
elkbuntuthe issue was she was in those channels and is untrustworthy to remain on topic in any ubuntu channel, hence she was preemptively removed to avoid any disruptions to those channels.13:50
PriceChildbut you didn't instate bans in those two channels at that time right?13:50
* spb looks, again, and laughs, again13:50
* PriceChild larts spb 13:50
spbnow that's not very nice13:50
PriceChildWhat is wrong with me asking what has happenned? :(13:50
spbasking requires that people explain things13:51
spbcan't have that now13:51
ikoniatb in #ubuntu please, - take a look13:51
ikoniathis is getting a persistant theme13:51
jussio1<interruption>argh... does anyone remember the sudo bug that was around a few days back? it was suggested to be added to the factoid, but I cant find it. someone mind grepping logs for me? </interuption>13:52
Hobbseewhat sudo bug?13:52
ikoniajussio1: can't use the getbyhostname() function ?13:52
jussio1ikonia: yeah that one13:52
wgrantANybody else just been colourfully and randomly PMed by some guy from #ubuntu?13:53
ikoniajussio1: what info you want13:53
ikoniawgrant: asking about a scanner?13:53
jussio1ikonia: just the bug number is fine13:53
ikoniawgrant: ghabit ?13:53
ikoniajussio1: rats, not got the bug number,13:54
ikoniajussio1: thats the one bit I do'nt have13:54
ikoniaand I'm not subscribed to it13:54
wgrantikonia: No, it was unintelligible, at least not any language that looks vaguely real.13:54
ikoniaah13:54
elkbuntuwgrant, by what nick?13:54
jussio1ikonia: ok, thanks anyway. 13:54
wgrantelkbuntu: Perikizi^3313:54
ikoniajussio1: sorry13:55
Hobbseeright.13:55
jussio1wgrant: that sounds like those turkish ones weve been getting13:56
* Hobbsee waits for the flames13:56
* Mez strikes a match13:56
ikoniaI'm being trolled bad by td` attempting to post information about me in #ubuntu13:57
* elkbuntu is watching13:59
ikoniatb` has moved to #ubuntu-offtopic to troll me14:01
* Hobbsee is also watching14:02
ikoniathis is a blatant attempt to provoke/troll14:03
ikoniathank you, I'm not bothered about him posting my name, but saying I gave advice/said things about things I didn't is not fair on people14:03
elkbuntuof course not, and he's stalking... which we seem to have a spate of the past few months14:04
ikoniaalmost like a training camp14:04
elkbuntuyeah, something is catalysing these trolls from somewhere14:05
ikoniathats the 3rd person I've had with that sort of behaviour14:06
Hobbseeelkbuntu: it's not the suspected place, unless they're going and changing nicks.14:06
elkbuntuHobbsee, well, depends what you think the suspected place is14:06
Hobbsee@btlogin14:08
elkbuntuis bantracker back?14:08
Hobbseedoesn't look like it14:08
Hobbseedarn14:08
elkbuntu:(14:08
* Hobbsee could use it, right about now14:09
elkbuntuyeah14:09
elkbuntuim totally lost tonight14:09
Hobbsee[23:09] [Whois] Mad_Gouki is n=alex@adsl-074-183-138-133.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net (purple)14:10
Hobbseewhat was `tb's ident?14:10
elkbuntunot that14:10
Hobbsee[23:10] [Whois] TB` is n=nnscript@host86-165-186-113.range86-165.btcentralplus.com (TB)14:11
Hobbseehmmm.  definetly not that.14:11
elkbuntusee the n=... that explains everything14:11
ikonia???? what the devil is going on 14:12
elkbuntuit's the same guy14:12
ikoniais it, ones a UK isp, the other is a USAS isp 14:12
ikoniaahhh nnscript14:12
* Hobbsee doesn't recognise nnscript14:13
elkbuntuikonia, i have access to two US servers..14:13
Hobbseeoh, right14:13
elkbuntuHobbsee, it's a reasonable mirc script14:13
Hobbseeahhhh14:13
elkbuntuwhere reasonable means less obnoxious than excursion14:13
* Hobbsee will remain silent on the number of machines she has access to.14:13
Hobbseedon't have root over most of 'em, though.  pity14:14
elkbuntuheh14:14
elkbuntui could get access to at least one other US, a Canadian and probably a NZ if i needed to14:15
elkbuntuby access i mean permission legally granted14:15
ikoniadoes seem like the same guy14:15
ikoniaseems random to come in and ask about the other guy minutes after he's gone14:16
Hobbseeyeah14:16
elkbuntuit wouldn't be if they actually had a non-ubuntu channel in common... the second guy just has #u and #u-offtopic14:17
ikoniaah well, it's done and dustred and the alter ego isn't causing any issue14:18
ikoniadusted even14:18
elkbuntumost wont until the ops go to sleep14:18
ikoniaof course14:19
* elkbuntu hums a tune14:19
* jussio1 wonders if the second is set +i 14:19
ikoniajussio1: thats an interesting possability as it looks like it's a scripted session14:20
elkbuntugone now14:21
Hobbseeelkbuntu: check -offtopic before you go14:22
elkbuntujust saw14:22
ikoniainteresting, online but left the channel14:22
elkbuntuyes because he didnt get the reaction he wanted, which is probably tb unbanned, probably clueless to the fact tb isnt banned14:23
elkbuntuanyway, bed for real14:25
Hobbseeheh, nig14:25
Hobbseet14:25
ikoniagood night14:25
elkbuntuikonia, you take care, and go wash that stalker attractant off yourself ;)14:26
ikoniathank you14:26
Hobbsee<sigh>14:27
flipstarHobbsee: ..?14:28
Hobbseeflipstar: if you knew about that channel, you know it's not welcome in here.14:28
Hobbseeor in there.14:29
flipstaractually i don't i just found it in the channel list14:29
ikoniayou know the topic of it ?14:30
Hobbseeikonia: it got changed recently.14:30
Hobbseeflipstar: how convenient.14:30
* PriceChild sighs14:31
* Hobbsee unbans, and will ban for longer next time when teh trolls come out and do that again.14:32
* Hobbsee sighs at PriceChild14:33
PriceChild:)14:33
* jussio1 sighs at the trolls14:33
Hobbseejussio1: would be nice if freenode did something.  gotta love it14:34
PriceChildHobbsee: About who?14:37
HobbseePriceChild: any of the trolls would be nice.14:37
jussio1Hobbsee: dont you dare mention that name...14:37
HobbseePriceChild: what are piero's alternate nicks, for eg.14:38
Hobbseeand is one of them fujisan, or is it another known troll?14:38
PriceChildI don't think you've asked freenode to do that..? And I don't think they would unless it was a network problem, in which case they'd deal with it themselves?14:38
PriceChild("think" "think")14:39
HobbseePriceChild: so, i'm asking now, and fujisan has trolled in multiple channels, not all in the ubuntu namespace, so it should class as a network problem by now.14:39
Hobbseeat least, for the old meanings of network problem.14:39
PriceChildmultiple channels?14:40
PriceChildwhich ones?14:40
* Hobbsee thought the list got mentioend days ago14:40
PriceChildI haven't seen one.14:41
jussio1I could name 2 off the top of my head... #u, and #u-ot14:41
HobbseePriceChild: some of them were private, and now hidden.  I can't give the names of them out.14:43
Hobbsee(and are not to do with ubuntu)14:44
PriceChildHobbsee: didn't he stop that though?14:47
HobbseePriceChild: he did to me.  he hasn't to elkbuntu, Myrtti, and making generally sexist comments in channel.14:47
PriceChildI don't think what he did in -offtopic is a freenode problem? :/ I can pass it on though if you still want me to?14:50
Hobbseeno, freenode wans't hte main one14:51
Hobbseeer, -offtopic wasn't hte main one14:51
PriceChild..14:52
PriceChildsince i had a natter with him a day or so ago, where?14:55
PriceChildHobbsee: ^15:23
ubotuNafallo called the ops in #ubuntu-irc ()15:52
Amaranthopen week is starting16:11
AmaranthI won't be able to help run it all day16:11
stdinwell, not 15 mins in to open week and already +m :p16:15
AmaranthCan someone put ubotu in -chat?16:18
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ubotu(capability list [<channel>]) -- Returns the capabilities present on the <channel>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.16:20
Mez@capability admin16:20
Mez@capability16:20
PriceChilddoes it need to be +m? :/16:20
stdinthere were a lot of /ignore messages flooding at the time16:27
PriceChildfunky16:48
ubotubazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (Ward1983)17:55
Amaranth_Can someone take over in classroom?18:35
Amaranth_My connection is super flaky18:35
=== Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth
ubotuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (CARLSBUTTCAVERNS offensive nick)18:41
Amaranth_Someone please take over in classroom18:45
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
ompaulwhat needs to be done?19:02
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
ompaulAmaranth_, I got it unless someone else wants it19:07
ompaulplease watch for the -classroom people19:08
ompaulI have to be afk for 1019:08
gnomefreakits that time again for dev week?19:09
ompaulack19:12
ompaulback19:12
ompaulBrunellus, how can we help you?19:37
r1ddl3rhello people19:40
r1ddl3rcan i ask a bit of help??19:40
Jack_SparrowWhat is the issue19:40
r1ddl3ri need to tell me if there is some1/somechan/or some site that can shed some light on ubuntu serial communication19:41
r1ddl3ri'm developing a tool for Embedded programming19:42
Jack_Sparrowno in here..   please see the main channel #Ubuntu19:42
r1ddl3r:S19:42
r1ddl3rit's a havoc there :(19:42
Jack_SparrowThere are other channels for dev etc...19:42
=== gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak
r1ddl3rso #ubuntu-dev would have some1 knowleadgable?19:43
r1ddl3rknowlegeable**19:43
gnomefreakr1might try #ubuntu-motu rather than #ubuntu-dev20:00
gnomefreakhes gone ;)20:01
ompaulAmaranth, are you back to mind -classroom?20:29
AmaranthI suppose I can20:30
Amaranthnext session20:30
AmaranthJust got my cable switched over to the new apartment20:30
ompaulAmaranth, yeah I need to do some shopping shops may be 24 hours but I only do 16 ;-) 20:30
AmaranthI need 30 minutes to go through this backlog of email :/20:31
AmaranthDamn I checked it 6 hours ago20:31
highvoltageompaul: how did your display issues work out with hardy?20:33
ompaulhighvoltage, I working monitors20:38
ompaulbut the resolution is rubbish20:38
ompaulhowever as it is a desktop server the clients are what matters now :)20:38
ompaulhighvoltage,  it is using an ATI EL100020:39
ompaulso I have just now been installing stuff like slapd on it - it works so I am not too worried20:39
ikoniaompaul: that must be frustrating with an ati 20:40
ikoniaompaul: I'm still waiting to see this "open leap forward" from ati/amd20:40
ompaulikonia, I don't care the X served by the local boxen that run it20:40
ikoniapardon ?20:40
ompaulso - the session server does not have to be clever20:40
ikoniathat went totally above my head20:40
ompaulikonia, I live in the world of xdmcp20:41
ikoniais the ati card the local xserver or remote ?20:41
ikoniaxdmcp is fine, that bit is easy20:41
ompaulati is the desktop server20:41
ikoniaI miss-understood your setup20:41
ikoniaompaul: ahh so the ati is your "local" x server20:41
ompaulthe local desktops are all fine20:41
ikoniaooh20:41
ikoniathe remote server is ati then20:41
ompaulikonia, well it will be remote20:41
ompaulyes20:41
ikoniaso surly the actual display on that server doesn't matter20:42
ompaulbtw LFS worked on it for X but gutsy did not :)20:42
ikoniaLFS ?20:42
highvoltageompaul: ah20:42
ikoniaas in from scratch20:42
ompaulthe display on the server does not matter to me20:42
ikoniaompaul: but exporting the server to your local X server is borking ?20:42
ompaulikonia, well I would hardly mention anything else to you 20:42
highvoltageompaul: you still use xdmcp? why?20:42
ompaulikonia, the box that is in question is an IBM x3590 or some such iirc20:43
ikoniaompaul: I didn't know you used it, and well done you've just been promoted to a beta tester for a LFS 7 build20:43
ompaulikonia, I was like "will this boot" ?20:43
ikoniathats always the magic20:43
highvoltageompaul: are you using the LTSP that ships with Ubuntu?20:43
ikoniaI must take that off topic from you to get feedback on the process20:44
ompaulhighvoltage, no I am not doing ltsp at all20:44
ompaulxdmcp only 20:44
ompaulltsp is in use but its boxes are dying20:44
highvoltageah I see20:45
ompaulI found it too much when 30 people walk into a building and turn on their little boxes at the same time20:45
ompaulmuch easier to just import X from some remote box given that the start up time is a couple of seconds even over a congested interbuilding connection20:45
ompaulhighvoltage, but to be honest I am starting a new build out of a new office so who knows what I will end up with - this is going to be turned into a template for the rest of the business20:46
ompauli.e. the great retro fit :)20:46
highvoltagecool.20:47
ompaulhighvoltage, I would love to say yes to ltsp but the load on the network on start up is cruel 20:47
ompauland then you want other apps not to be impacted20:48
ikoniaompaul: I have much to ask in you in that case20:50
ikoniayou could provide valuable feedback20:51
ikoniaif you have a production implimentations20:51
AmaranthSo any of you know what swik is?20:51
AmaranthThey seem to be making money off of my blog posts20:51
ompaulAmaranth, and the licence on your posts is?20:53
AmaranthCopyright © 2007 Travis Watkins.20:53
Amaranththat's it20:53
Amaranthno sharing license20:53
ompaulso they have no right20:53
ompaulyour first line is to request a take down20:53
ompauland a bill (not unreasonable)20:54
ompaulthen you go for the jugular (btw IANAL and TINLA ;-)) 20:54
ompaulbut it how I would go for them20:54
Amarantha bill?20:55
highvoltageompaul: you could have one small server for bootup, and one large one for the actual applications.20:56
highvoltageompaul: disable ssh compression on ltsp also greatly performs server performance20:56
ompaulhighvoltage, network traffic the box I have could do it all in its sleep20:56
fearlCan you guys pay better attention to Vlet in #ubuntu ... some of his answers to users are astonishing...20:56
fearlHis answer to an issue with X? "reinstall"... as one example...20:56
Amaranthpfft, nixternal can run his own session :P20:57
ompaulfearl, thanks20:57
ompaulnoted20:57
fearlompaul: Appreciated  :)20:57
SeveasW T F20:58
Seveas<-- fearl (n=francis@unaffiliated/lunitik) has left #ubuntu-ops ("Leaving")20:58
Seveaswho the f unbanned that fucker?20:58
ompaulwhich one20:59
Seveaslunitik!20:59
ompaulohh fuck20:59
ompaulkill -20:59
SeveasI said that if he was unbanned I'd leave20:59
ompaulkill -920:59
Seveasso goodbye20:59
ompauljust kill -920:59
ompaulfuck20:59
ompaulfuckidiy fuck fuck cuk20:59
ompaulgaaaaaaa21:00
ompaulback later21:00
ompaulI am not going to sit at the keyboard while what is in my mind might get to keyboard21:01
fearlAnother recommendation... any way to get a #ubuntu-upgrades channel going officially to direct people having issues on the upgrade to hardy? Lots of people are having that issue...21:02
fearlIf the traffic is at least more focused in that area, even those of us that experienced no issues will learn and be able to help if no one having encountered the issue is around...21:03
AmaranthNo thank you21:07
fearlAbout 1 out of every 10 questions relate to the update procedure... and none are being assisted currently... but ok21:09
AmaranthSo...where is Seveas?21:11
Seeker`erm, has anyone seen the mail on the -irc list?21:11
AmaranthYeah, because that's really following the CoC's "Step down considerately" section21:12
AmaranthIf we had the ban tracker we could look at when/why/how fearl was banned, I certainly don't remember it21:13
DavieyThat is really quite awful.  Leaving is one thing, taking his toys with his pram is another :/21:13
Seeker`I think lunatik was pre-bantracker or something21:14
AmaranthActually now that I think about it I do remember that21:15
Davieythankfully we have ubot3 etc21:15
AmaranthHow the heck did he get unbanned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?21:15
AmaranthI can see accidentally getting cleared from one21:15
naliothDaviey: ubot3 depends on ubotus db21:15
naliothDaviey: as do all the ubut*s21:15
AmaranthBut I remember Seveas readding it the couple times it got removed accidentally21:15
Davieynalioth: and we don't have that in bzr?21:15
AmaranthI'm tempted to send a reply "Grow up."21:16
Seeker`Mootbot has gone too :/21:16
mc44Amaranth: I'm sure that will help.21:16
naliothDaviey: seveas never put it there21:16
* Daviey wrote a reply, and saved it to drafts rather than replying21:16
Davieynalioth: :(21:17
Amaranthok, anyone have comprehensive logs?21:17
Amaranthi just have xchat-gnome save important things, i don't log everything21:18
AmaranthFind out who cleared that ban21:18
Davieyone mo21:18
Daviey13:31 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-bbbb lunitik!*@* %*!*@84.34.147.110 %*!*@bas1-toronto35-1279336535.dsl.bell.ca %labcom_!*@*] by Seveas21:19
Amaranthuh21:19
fdovingso, can we have a little less moody bot-host pelase? 21:19
AmaranthThat's...surprising21:19
Seeker`I;m sorry, but I can't hlep but laugh at that21:19
* Amaranth sends that as a reply instead21:20
DavieyAmaranth: i think it's old, just checking the date21:20
Myrttierh21:20
DavieyAmaranth: WAIT21:20
Amaranthok21:20
Myrttiffs21:20
Seeker`n=francis@unaffiliated/lunitik isn't covered by that bad21:20
Seeker`s/bad/ban21:20
Davieywow, i need to rotate logs21:21
Myrttiwe - so - badly - need - mass - latency - on - the - logs21:21
mneptok[mneptok@snowwhite] mneptok :: grep lunitik irclogs/2008/Freenode/\#ubuntu.*21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.01-16.log:08:27 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-bbb lunitik!*@* broken_ladder!*@* *!*dnchs@*] by Mez21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.01-24.log:07:19 -!- lunitik [n=fearl@ip68-230-79-95.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.01-24.log:07:19 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b lunitik!*@*] by ChanServ21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.01-24.log:07:19 -!- lunitik [n=fearl@ip68-230-79-95.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [requested by ChanServ]21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.03-08.log:07:08 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-bbbb *!*@CPE00012e15cab1-CM00194757ed42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com *!*@adsl-234-94-165.lft.bellsouth.net lunitik!*@* *!*n=ubuntu@*.prvdri.east.verizon.net] by Seveas21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-19.log:06:10 -!- lunitik [n=fearl@unaffiliated/lunitik] has joined #ubuntu21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-19.log:06:10 -!- mode/#ubuntu [+b lunitik!*@*] by ChanServ21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-19.log:06:10 -!- lunitik [n=fearl@unaffiliated/lunitik] has left #ubuntu [requested by ChanServ]21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-19.log:06:11 -!- fearl [n=fearl@unaffiliated/lunitik] has joined #ubuntu21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-19.log:06:26 -!- fearl [n=fearl@unaffiliated/lunitik] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"]21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-24.log:08:30 -!- mode/#ubuntu [-bbbb lunitik!*@* %*!*@84.34.147.110 %*!*@bas1-toronto35-1279336535.dsl.bell.ca %labcom_!*@*] by Seveas21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-28.log:11:51 -!- fearl [n=francis@unaffiliated/lunitik] has joined #ubuntu21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-28.log:15:21 -!- fearl [n=francis@unaffiliated/lunitik] has quit [Remote closed the connection]21:22
mneptokirclogs/2008/Freenode/#ubuntu.04-28.log:15:23 -!- fearl [n=francis@unaffiliated/lunitik] has joined #ubuntu21:22
mneptokAFAIC, there was never a ban against his cloak21:23
Davieyhttp://pastebin.com/m549ea19821:23
mneptok*AFAICT21:23
mneptokat least not this year in #ubuntu.21:23
AmaranthSo it's an autoban in chanserv based on nick21:23
mneptokseems to be21:23
Amaranthafaik only seveas can set those up21:24
Amaranthso this is his own fault21:24
DavieyI don't have enough ram on the server it's on to open my #ubuntu log :(21:24
Piciiirc, only the IRC council has access to autobans now21:24
mneptokcaveat: my logs are not 100% complete. i disconnect now and again.21:24
Seeker`Daviey: scp to somewhere else?21:24
Davieyyeah21:24
Myrtti*sigh*21:25
Amaranth/cs autorem #ubuntu list21:25
Amaranthsomeone with access to do21:25
Amarantherr, someone with access do that21:25
* mneptok pats Myrtti 21:26
Picibleh21:26
DavieySeeker`: it's 241M :/21:26
PiciThat was not the email I wanted to be reading21:26
Myrttiit's better that I just shut up21:26
Davieyi'll tar21:26
MyrttiI've got nothing positive to say21:27
jussio1what the heck is going on????21:27
* Amaranth turns up RATM and pretends this never happened21:27
AmaranthHave fun.21:27
Pici:(21:27
mneptokMyrtti: let's go outside an engage in mutual groin kicking. same result, less waiting.21:27
Myrttijussio1: the exact thing I was afraid was going to happen21:27
Seeker`jussio1: At the moment it seems like there wasn't a comprehensive set of bans set of lunitik, which meant that he can can get into some #ubuntu channels. Seveas has stated before that if anyone ever lifts a ban on lunitik, he will leave21:28
naliothon the autorem:  *!*lunitik@*  lunitik!*@*  21:28
jussio1ok. so he left? 21:28
AmaranthFigures21:29
Seeker`jussio1: Yes. Along with any bots on his connection.21:29
AmaranthWell, he just got banned from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic21:29
jussio1Ok. do we need ubot5 then?21:29
Picinalioth: Do you happen to have anything in your logs about what was on the autorem? 21:29
AmaranthHe is still in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat21:29
fearlWhy am I being banned from the Ubuntu channels?21:30
Amaranthfearl: Ban evasion.21:30
fearlI have been well behaved and helpful, and it's a 3 year old ban that wasn't justified then...21:30
Amaranthfearl: You are lunitik, lunitik has a ban set21:30
fearlI told Seveas he was wrong, so he banned me... that's it, no warning, no nothing.21:30
naliothPici: i don't understand21:31
fearlI wasn't rude, I did NOTHING wrong... 3 years later, I'm still banned.21:31
Amaranthfearl: It is up to Seveas to decide when you get unbanned21:31
AmaranthOr the IRC Council21:31
AmaranthEvading a ban doesn't make it all better21:31
fearlSeveas ignores every attempt to even discuss it with him.21:32
fearl3 years of the same ban because an op has an ego is better?21:32
Picinalioth: I mean, is there a chance that you listed the autorems in the past and have that logged? 21:32
PiciI'm just wondering if either something was removed or this is legimate evasion21:33
Pici'legitimate'21:33
AmaranthPici: No, the autorem has always banned based on nick in mneptok's logs21:33
fearlHow do I discuss this with the IRC Council?21:33
fearlI thought this was the IRC Council channel?21:33
AmaranthI could tell you if we had our bot...21:34
mneptokfearl: not all ops are council members. like me.21:34
Seeker`This is the IRC operator channel, there is a difference21:34
naliothPici: i don't do autorems, i'm afraid21:34
Picinalioth: okay21:34
fearlAmaranth: care to give me an over view? 21:34
AmaranthActually I have no idea how to add something to the IRC Council agenda21:35
Davieyemail their ML would be a good start IMO21:35
tonyyarussoThe mailing list is the place to start.21:35
tonyyarussobah, I lose.21:35
Amaranthhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda is way out of date21:35
fearlCan I stay here until Seveas comes back, I believe he saw me being helpful earlier, and polite... maybe he will be willing... just someone say my name when he comes?21:36
Davieyirc-council@lists.ubuntu.com21:36
Amaranthfearl: He isn't coming back21:36
Amaranthfearl: And we have a real against idling in here21:36
fearlDaviey: How would I join that list?21:36
Seeker`fearl: I doubt he will come back if you are in any #*ubuntu* channel21:36
gnomefreakrule21:36
Davieyfearl: just email to it21:36
Amaranthrule, yeah21:36
tonyyarusso(does fearl go by another nick sometimes?)21:36
Amaranthwas starting to sing the song i'm listening to :P21:36
Amaranthtonyyarusso: /whois21:36
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: yes luniotic21:37
fearlSeeker`: Currently I'm only in the classroom channels... surely that is not disallowed?21:37
MyrttiI'm getting a headache21:37
tonyyarussoah, 'k.21:37
gnomefreakor something of the sort21:37
fearltonyyarusso: One hostmask.21:37
* tonyyarusso is starting to get in the loop, kinda21:37
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: me too21:37
* gnomefreak read email loked for ubotu looked in here got caught up21:37
DavieyChaps.. more pressing issue- factoid db21:37
AmaranthThere has to be a legitimate reason for this to be the only autorem we have set in the history of the channel.21:37
fearlAm I allowed to stay in the classroom channels? Or is that still ban evasion?21:38
AmaranthI don't think you were ever banned from those21:38
tonyyarussoDaviey: True21:38
jussio1Daviey: I have the latest one - the site with it is still up - grabbed it 2 mins ago21:38
Davieyfearl: If you aren't evading a ban that was set there, you are fine21:38
Davieyjussio1: you rock!21:38
jussio1:)21:38
gnomefreakjussio1: good job now we need host and bot21:38
* jussio1 also has those...21:39
mneptokslow down.21:39
AmaranthSo our bot is read-only until we figure out what to do about this21:39
fearlDaviey: I wasn't aware I was evading a ban currently, I have the same hostmask, and it let me join 3 years after the ban... I figured it was lifted  :/21:39
* gnomefreak failed out of boyscouts :(21:39
fearlAnyway, I'll e-mail the list and see what happens I guess.21:39
mneptokplease don't run around trying to recreate functionality we're not certain is gone, and if it is, will need some discussion.21:39
tonyyarussoI have some experience running supybots, but not with coding them, nor do I have hosting of my own.  So, if you can find hosting, I can help administer at least.21:39
Picimneptok: +121:39
Amaranthmneptok: This got dropped on us pretty quick21:40
AmaranthPriority #1: Get a working bot running21:40
Davieymneptok: well at the very least. seveas needs to be kept away from the new one.21:40
gnomefreakmneptok: i just got email maybe 3 -5 minutes ago21:40
tonyyarussomneptok: not certain?  It's not in #ubuntu - pretty certain.21:40
gnomefreakhe was already gone 21:40
jussio1Im going to drop ubot5 into #ubuntu if no one has any issues? (temporary)21:40
AmaranthI like the guy but I think this proves he should not be in charge of such things21:40
Amaranthjussi01: Please do.21:41
gnomefreakjussio1: does it do bugs?21:41
mneptokPriority #1 = ensure Seveas is really gone, get consensus from IRC Council on next steps.21:41
tonyyarussognomefreak: some bugs are better than zero features.21:41
jussio1bug 121:41
mneptok(IMNSHO) :)21:41
Seeker`mneptok: is "ensure" really the right word?21:41
Daviey!ops21:41
Davieyhaha, fail21:42
tonyyarussomneptok: We don't have time.21:42
Amaranthmneptok: We can put the bot away if Seveas comes back21:42
AmaranthAlthough I'm not sure we should...21:42
gnomefreakmozilla bug 30404821:42
AmaranthThis is really fucked up21:42
jussio1Daviey: its silenced here i think21:42
AmaranthIf ubot5 muted?21:42
AmaranthCan someone unmute it?21:42
PiciProbably21:42
tonyyarussoyes21:42
gnomefreakmozilla bug 30404821:43
gnomefreakbug 121:43
Amaranth!chat21:43
ubot5The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !kopete21:43
Amaranthno bugs but we have factoids21:43
tonyyarussognomefreak: snarfer is a different plugin, which jussio1 likely doesnt' have21:43
gnomefreakits basic factoid21:43
Amaranth!chat-#ubuntu-classroom21:43
ubot5Amaranth: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:43
gnomefreaktonyyarusso: catching on to that :)21:43
AmaranthNot a recent DB but oh well, at least it works21:43
* mneptok is getting jono's attention21:44
DavieyIs it worth jussio1 checking his db into bzr?21:44
jussio1arggh, forgot you cant update the db while its running21:44
Myrttijussio1: we love you21:44
naliothwho does ubot5 belong to?21:44
jussio1me21:44
naliothjussio1: can you see what is wrong with it?21:45
AmaranthWhat's wrong with it?21:45
tonyyarussoIf we can cough up $19.95 we could get a Linode dedicated for ubotu.  I don't have one yet though.21:45
jussio1nalioth: what do you mean?21:45
naliothit's not identified to services21:45
tonyyarusso(/mo)21:45
* Daviey mirrors mootbot logs before they go21:45
naliothno PMs to unid/unregistered users21:45
AmaranthWhat is mootbot?21:45
jussio1yeah21:45
DavieyAmaranth: the meeting bot21:45
PiciPlus it spews errors in the channel, rather then sending them via pm21:45
jussio1I havent registered it yet. 21:45
Amaranthoh great21:45
Amaranthwait, isn't seveas the CC Secretary?21:46
gnomefreakAmaranth: yes21:46
tonyyarussowas at least, not sure if that's still the case21:46
tonyyarussoprobably21:46
jussio1well this is kinda sudden, havent fixed those bits yet. Has someone got something better?21:46
gnomefreakmneptok: update jono on that too?21:46
Amaranth*groan*21:46
gnomefreakwhat happend to ljl or nalioth's bots?21:46
gnomefreakor were they seveas?21:47
tonyyarussoubot3 is here still.21:47
ubot3Factoid is here still. not found21:47
Amaranthubot3: chat21:47
ubot3The Instant Messenger Client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto) supports MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC. See also !Kopete21:47
gnomefreakwe have the updated DB so all it has to be done is merge it with the db they have right?21:47
gnomefreakwait a minute didnt seveas push ubotu code to LP?21:48
PiciYes.21:48
Davieyyeah, but not the factoids21:48
gnomefreakjust basic code?21:48
jussio1https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/ is still up...21:48
MyrttiI got connection failed21:49
Myrttino wait21:49
Myrttithat's epiphany21:49
tonyyarussoI downloaded the .db as well.21:49
gnomefreakubotu.ubuntu-nl.org:443 uses an invalid security certificate.21:49
gnomefreakThe certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.21:49
gnomefreak(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)21:49
gnomefreakMyrtti: i doubt it is21:49
jdonggnomefreak: probably a self-signed certificate 21:50
Picignomefreak: add an exception21:50
Myrttiyeah21:50
Myrttithat's it21:50
gnomefreakah21:50
jussio1just do: wget --no-check-certificate https://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/ubuntu.db21:50
MyrttiI've used epiphany only for one day so I'm not used to this yet :-P21:50
gnomefreakah thanks21:51
gnomefreakeverything is there including plugins21:51
gnomefreakhttp://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/code/ubotu is the plugins21:52
PiciNo, they're on LP21:52
mneptokMyrtti: another 48 hours and you'll be in full-blown extensions withdrawal21:52
gnomefreakok the page is wrong than?21:52
mneptokMyrtti: (like you were when Fx3 showed up) ;)21:52
naliothMyrtti: that's a strange coincidence.  i used to use epiphany daily, until i upgraded and both it and galeon are no longer available  :(21:53
Myrttimneptok: I've not touched fx3 at all21:53
AmaranthI swear if I find out this code isn't working because konq is paranoid and doesn't send referrer headers I'm going to be pissed21:54
PiciThis is ridiculous 21:54
MyrttiPici: yes, we know21:54
ompaulmneptok, chanserv banned him21:54
Amaranthjcastro IM'ed me about it :/21:55
AmaranthAnyone have a phone number for Seveas?21:56
Amaranthnevermind21:56
Davieyhas someone got hold of jono?21:56
AmaranthYep21:56
Myrttiunbelievable21:57
jcastrook ... anyone have a # for seveas?21:57
PiciMyrtti: Whats up?21:57
Amarantherr, you just told me you had it :P21:57
jdong"Hey Dennis, is your refrigerator running?"21:57
jdonglol21:57
* Pici doesnt think this is funny21:57
ompauljdong, no funny21:58
AmaranthI laughed :/21:58
jdongwhat happened?21:58
jdongis this just getting the bot up?21:58
Myrttipardon my french21:58
jussio1jcastro: his website: http://www.kaarsemaker.net/contact/21:58
Amaranthjdong: Seveas quit and took the bots with him21:58
jdongAmaranth: oh. quit quit?21:58
jcastrojussio1: thanks21:58
Myrttiquit quit21:58
Davieyyus, see the list21:58
mc44er, do you really want to go calling him before you're clear on what happened?21:58
jdongyikes21:58
Amaranthmc44: We're clear on what happened...21:58
ompaulI am clear on what happened21:59
Amaranthjcastro has the details21:59
mc44ok good :)21:59
Myrtti/me feels like saying things like "I knew this" zested with plenty of cursing21:59
ompaulmneptok, he was banned by chanserv for showing up22:01
tonyyarussoMeanwhile, I just had a think about how to make better redudancies with multiple supybots, but I'll need to look into whether it would work without some kind of infinite loop.  Will send a note if it sounds plausible.22:01
mneptokompaul: i know. the key point is "who unbanned him?" and that seems to be, "nobody, as his current mask was never banned."22:02
ompaulthere should have been two versions of chanserv locking him out22:02
ompaulsomeone removed one of them22:02
ompaulas in 22:02
Seeker`someones ban-fu wasn't good enough to keep him out 100%22:03
ompaulSeeker`, no ]22:03
ompaulSeeker`, there ____WERE_____ two chanserv bans on him 22:03
ompaulthere is only one22:03
ompaulatm22:03
Piciompaul: There are two maks on the autorem: *!*lunitik@*  lunitik!*@*22:03
Seeker`but I thought that neither of them would have caught his current mask22:03
ompauldam22:04
PiciSeeker`: correct22:04
ompauln22:04
* ompaul is so put out by this that ompaul can't read right this evening22:04
AmaranthMeanwhile #ubuntu-classroom is dead....22:04
Seeker`ompaul is so put out by this ompaul is talking about ompaul in the third person22:04
jdongSeeker`: I think that's the 9th person.22:05
* ompaul wraps up Seeker` in a tcp wrapper and sends him to the 31st hop22:05
ompaulwhat a cruel way to do someone in22:05
ompaulttl is enough and then there is the even horizon22:05
ompaulwheee I got ttl ttl ttl x lots and suddenly there is no more22:06
ompaulthe source gets quenched22:06
ompaulmneptok, now tell me that is not perverse22:06
AmaranthWow I thought mneptok took over your computer22:07
jussi01Im going to replace the db. bot will be back in a moment.22:09
ompaulAmaranth, how?22:09
ompaulAmaranth, more so "why" did you think that? /me can't see the link22:09
ompaulAmaranth, maybe I am blind22:10
Amaranthompaul: that looks like something mneptok would say22:10
DavieyThe fact that the ban was been removed is irrelevant.. Seveas has really let the side down here.22:10
ompaulDaviey, I don't concur, and nor will I discuss it.22:11
AmaranthI guess I'll just send my email22:11
MyrttiPlease, remember, this channel is publicly logged. It's both good and bad.22:12
ompaulMyrtti, well I can say I did let the the side down eariler22:12
ompaulMoniker42, and how can you be helped this evening?22:12
Moniker42hello ompaul, i'm here for the firework show22:13
ompaulthere is none have a nice day 22:13
Moniker42thanks, you too :)22:13
AmaranthMoniker42: Bye now.22:14
ompaul!idle 22:14
ubot5Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.22:14
PriceChildMoniker42: where did you come from?22:14
naliothjussi01: identify your bot, please22:14
AmaranthMoniker42: Thanks for stopping by, come again.22:14
AmaranthProbably that ponies channel. :P22:14
Moniker42hmm, k >.>22:14
PriceChildAmaranth: calm down22:15
ompaulPriceChild, he was right22:15
PriceChildhave you been dealing with him elsewhere?22:16
ompaulna I just whoised22:16
AmaranthI was wondering when those guys would find out22:17
ompaulAmaranth, I guess they did when they saw the mailing list22:18
PriceChildI think if you haven't been dealing with him earlier, and he has just come randomly, that you should be a tad more polite.22:20
PriceChildespecially when you've just done exactly the same in their channel.22:20
* mneptok waves the "it's just IRC" banner22:21
mneptokbreathe, folks.22:21
AmaranthYou're not even in their channel. :P22:21
PriceChildAmaranth: aren't I?22:21
* ompaul waves the mneptok banner22:21
AmaranthUnless staff can hide themselves...22:21
* ompaul retracts the mneptok banner 22:21
mneptokompaul: i thought we agreed we'd only use that when the syrup of ipecac ran out.22:21
ompaulhehehe22:22
PriceChildlol no I'm not in there, and if staff could... you really think I'd have that already ?! :)22:22
Myrtti/me goes to get some lemon soda produced with wind power, pours mneptok, ompaul and jussi01 a glass22:22
jdongPriceChild: yes?22:22
jdongis that the right answer?22:22
Myrtti42?22:22
* mneptok sips a long, cool Myrtti 22:22
* jussi01 huggles Myrtti 22:22
* ompaul makes mint tea for those who don't/can't do soda22:23
ompaulits all about the chill factor22:23
ompaulwind chill factor minus zero wind chill factor minus ten below22:23
* PriceChild wonders what seveas' mail to the list is about and decides to catch up on today's scrollback22:24
jdongaww I want mint tea...22:24
jdongPriceChild: tell me if you locate said message.22:24
Myrttiits in the logs22:24
Myrttihttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/04/28/%23ubuntu-ops.html22:24
LjLit seems i really shouldn't connect to this place22:24
Myrtti205822:24
LjLeither i always come at the wrong moment22:24
LjLor there isn't a right moment22:24
jussi01LjL: the latter :/22:24
Myrttithere isn't a right moment22:24
Myrttithere never is a right moment for irc22:24
PiciI dont know what the heck is going on lately, but it has to stop.22:25
jdongLjL: (1) that's what she said22:25
jdongLjL: (2) there's never a right moment in this part of the multiverse.22:25
LjLjdong: multiverse always breaks dependencies anyway22:26
ompaulmultiverse is where jdong lives in his none free world :P22:26
jdongompaul: HEY!22:26
jdong;-)22:26
jdongompaul: I've got SOME rights as long as I don't watch Sony BMG DVDs!22:26
nixternalcan we get a bot in #kubuntu-devel that does bugs and is fully loaded?22:27
ompauljdong, na - EMI got your rights 22:28
Amaranthprobably not22:28
elkbuntunixternal, we're still trying to figure stuff out22:28
* nixternal was wondering when this day would come22:28
MyrttiI wasn't22:29
nixternalI have expected it for 2 years22:29
* Amaranth smokes a pack of cigarettes22:29
AmaranthI'm calm :P22:29
nixternalhahahaha22:30
DavieyChaps, can we keep this off the planet and following up on the mailing list, at least at the moment .. no point making the drama bigger :/22:30
PiciI'm going to have to agree on that22:30
nixternalI am smokin' a nice Romeo y Julietta, with a 52 ring gauge....mmm mmm good, only thing I am missing is a Cognac22:30
* Seeker` wonders why the girls are allowed to blog about it :(22:30
MyrttiAmaranth: sitting in the bed, staring at the wall and smoking, wondering what happened and where are your clothes?22:31
Amaranthhahaha22:31
AmaranthI had a morning like that once...22:31
DavieySeeker`: Chaps as in mankind, i think you knew that.22:31
Myrtti"damn it was disappointing"22:31
ompaulONCE?22:31
jussio1argh, Ineed to run. see you all later. :/22:31
* Seeker` patches Daviey so that he can detect jokes22:31
ompauljussi01, don't trip, or if you do send a postcard ;-)22:31
Amaranthompaul: You've seen me, it takes a lot of alcohol to do that to me. :P22:32
Amarantha _lot_ :D22:32
ompaulAmaranth, no that is called22:32
ompaulan awful lot22:32
LjL[23:32:04] <FloodBot1> WARNING: PM from tonyyarusso - VERSION22:32
LjLthey won't reply22:32
tonyyarussoAre the Floodbots Supybot or something else?22:32
ompaulsomething else22:32
Picisomething else22:32
tonyyarusso'k22:32
LjLjussio1: on the other hand, *your* quassel replies to my *privmsg*22:32
LjLtonyyarusso: what do you need to know?22:32
MyrttiLjL: he's gone22:32
tonyyarussoLjL: thinking bot thoughts and wondering whether they shared any commonality with ubotu.22:33
LjLtonyyarusso: not a bit22:33
tonyyarussoLjL: what language are they in?22:33
LjLPHP22:33
Myrttireally?22:34
tonyyarussoah22:34
Myrtti:-o22:34
MyrttiI didn't know php could do *that*22:34
PiciPowered by voodoo22:34
mneptokall you need is register_globals and telnet ...22:35
tonyyarussoUh, guys - was the ban this is all revolving around a cloak, username, or an IP?22:39
Amaranthtonyyarusso: a nick and a username22:39
mneptoknick/ident, IIRC22:39
LjLnickname22:39
tonyyarussowhew22:40
LjLsomeone else say PHP isn't a language for writing stuff, i kick them in an infinite loop22:40
tonyyarusso(means it's not one of the ones I removed last month)22:40
ompaultonyyarusso, na the ban was not wide enough22:42
mneptokLjL: working for Apple is, indeed, a stern measure.22:42
ompaulmneptok, the jordon hubbard option 22:43
nixternalI know you guys are falling for Seveas totally leaving with the bots right?22:43
nixternals/are/aren't?22:43
ompaulare22:44
LjLi think merely he needs to be hit with a hammer22:44
nixternalyou realize he is more than likely upgrading his servers to Hardy and when they are complete the bots will be back22:44
LjLcouple of times22:44
LjLhe's upgraded time ago22:44
LjL(and it failed, too)22:44
nixternallol22:44
Davieynixternal: no, he's emailed the ubuntu-irc list with his current intentions.. which don't look so good.22:44
ompaulrichie he be gone I guess 99.999% accurate on my part22:44
nixternalDaviey: I have seen that before from Dennis22:45
nixternalhe doesn't scare me anymore, he will be back22:45
Myrtti*shrug*22:45
ompaulnixternal, bet you 1 euro cent22:45
LjLright now there is no need to worry excessively22:45
LjLwe have bots22:45
LjLthe channel has its 1600 people22:45
LjLwho need ops, incidentally22:45
nixternalya22:46
ompaulthere are lot of things to be gotten on with 22:46
nixternalanything I can do, just hollah22:46
LjLi've been away for a few days22:46
LjLthe #ubuntu topic is still like i left it on release day22:46
ompaulnixternal, where would you have gotten to if we hadn't called you back22:46
nixternalI am always around, just idle as to not get involved with the politics and remain community focused22:46
LjLi think you all are too concentrated on unpleasant business that have really not much to do with actually opping #ubuntu22:46
nixternalompaul: I never left :)22:47
ompaulnixternal, point22:47
ompaulnixternal, retract that last point22:48
ompaulnixternal, game set and match to you22:48
nixternallol22:48
nixternalif I only understood tennis now :p22:48
ompaulnixternal, will understanding in the future do?22:49
nixternalpossibly22:49
* ompaul hands nixternal a url for wikipedia22:49
Jucatodeuce....22:52
ompaulJucato, what the deuce as some would say22:54
Jucatohehe :)22:54
Amarantharg i hate deuce23:03
Amaranththat crap can go on forever23:03
Amaranthadvantage left team! deuce! advantage right team! deuce! etc23:04
AmaranthWe are talking about Wii Tennis, right?23:04
* PriceChild whispers it happens in real tennis too23:04
PriceChild:P23:04
ompaulAmaranth, no we are talking an abstract game of comedy and puns23:05
AmaranthI find it amusing that Wii Sports is still the game that makes best use of the wiimote23:05
AmaranthAnd it was meant to be a little demo to help you get used to using the wiimote23:05
PriceChildI still haven't played on a wii, or a ps323:05
unic0rnis ubuntu irc council responsible in any way for #ubuntu-pl, and if not, would you mind to consider cleaning up that mess?23:42
PriceChildgah, what's going on now unic0rn?23:42
unic0rnPriceChild: i guess nothing in particular currently, but one of chanops is being well... pretty much troll-alike.23:43
PriceChildpablo?23:43
unic0rnczester23:43
unic0rnjokes like 'why women do have period? because they deserve it' and such crap23:43
jdongO_o23:44
unic0rni can translate some logs, but tomorrow, i'm going to bed soon23:44
LjLjdong, i think you'd be better off silent :)23:44
unic0rnbut it's another complaint about him i've got from my friend, and logs are only confirming that.23:45
unic0rnoverall, that place is often heavily offtopic, and while that can be ok sometimes, it's also often rude. the bad thing is, chanops are causing it, not preventing it.23:47
PriceChildhmm 5 weeks sylwester is gone :/23:48
unic0rnindeed.23:48
PriceChildpressenter has been fine afaik? Remember talking with him a little ago.23:49
unic0rnlemme check logs23:49
unic0rnhmm23:50
unic0rnfrom what i know, he's silent since month23:51
unic0rnmore or less23:51
PriceChildhey Steck, how can I help?23:51
PriceChildNeither of hte leaders on the LoCo list are users of irc it appears.23:52
SteckI'm sorry, not looking for any help at the moment. Had this channel on auto-join.23:52
PriceChildthough they appear active23:52
unic0rnyeah23:52
mneptokSteck: this channel discourages idling. please remove it from auto-join.23:55
SteckCan do.23:55
mneptokthankee sah.23:55
* Steck nods23:55

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