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wilsonfriskguys: this is my plan00:00
jhutchins_wkI prefer konqueror anyway.00:00
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jhutchins_wkWhoo!  Quittin' time!00:00
* genii punches jhutchins' timecard out00:01
wilsonfriskI use firefox because of no script.  can linux get botnetted?00:01
* Hydrogen didn't know that was a verb00:02
taghastien41i cannt connect to the frensh kubuntu00:02
wilsonfriskHydrogen: what is the active verbage of the term then?00:03
wilsonfriskanyway anyway, does it happen much?00:03
wilsonfrisklinux - botnet - does happen?00:04
wilsonfriskhow do i shot web?00:04
wilsonfriskis anyone here?00:04
psycog2g ty for your help guys00:05
nosrednaekimwilsonfrisk: mah linux doesn't get bot-netted00:06
nosrednaekim*nah00:06
taghastien41wht dose it meen i have banned from the channel00:07
dwidmanntaghastien41: banned means that an channel operator banned you and you can't re-enter the channel for a set period of time00:09
taghastien41but why00:09
taghastien41thanks00:09
dwidmanntaghastien41: I usually it means you did something wrong00:10
wilsonfrisknosrednaekim: so I can surf whatever without worrying about it?00:10
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Persocould anybody tell me a clue about this error: http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9120/inst1eu4.png)00:10
nosrednaekimwilsonfrisk: yeah... but don't be stupid :P00:11
nosrednaekimwilsonfrisk: and never enter your sudo password if the brower asks for it00:11
cpk1Perso: either mount it as root or use setuid root00:12
taghastien41Gtran 6210 modem driver for evdo internet connection00:12
MilitantPotatoPerso: go to that website, follow the guide00:14
wilsonfrisknosrednaekim: k.  sounds good.  I think unless they get sudo i cannot get raeped.00:14
MilitantPotatoPerso: also, if you own the folders in /media it helps (or did for me in gutsy)00:15
nosrednaekimwilsonfrisk: correct00:15
PersoMilitantPotato: in the past I hadn't such problem. What's new? :S00:15
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: did that script editing work for you?00:15
ArwenReiser was convicted :D00:15
MilitantPotatofor fglrx00:15
ArwenMurderFS.00:15
MilitantPotatoPerso: probably aren't in the group you need to be?00:16
taghastien41Gtran 6210 modem driver for evdo internet connection00:16
MilitantPotatoPerso: I'm honestly not sure why it does that, did it for me, but not my wife's pc00:16
Persothe thing is I hadn't write access in the past so I think I hadn't fuse either MilitantPotato00:16
nosrednaekimMilitantPotato: yes! it did00:17
Persoand I don't want to have write access I want ro access00:17
MilitantPotatonosrednaekim: did for me aswell.00:17
MilitantPotatoPerso: edit the fstab so they mount with ro00:18
Persoyep, done. But it says again and again that MilitantPotato00:18
geneWhats with driconf and xdriinfo, both claim libGL is too old?00:19
Persoi'm going to let you see the ntfs fstab line MilitantPotato00:19
MilitantPotatoPerso: did you follow the guide on that website?00:19
MilitantPotatoIt says to do it in the error message.00:19
MilitantPotatoyou probably should :)00:19
Persono I didn't because until today I hadn't that problem MilitantPotato.00:20
PersoI was happy in the past :S... :)00:20
Persoi? going to have a look...00:21
MilitantPotatowell, not much we can do I'd guess00:21
taghastien41there is no personne here00:31
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robotgeektaghastien41: what do you need?00:34
gokhan_h00:40
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_SharXx_-d00:41
Jucatohm?00:41
_SharXx_-S.a00:41
ChoreboyI need some general support, anyone feeling particularly helpful?00:43
Jucatotry asking the actual question, then we'll find out00:43
Choreboyfair enough00:43
will00is there a special procedure that must be followed to install kubuntu on a cf card?00:43
ChoreboyI have the latest version of Kubuntu, connecting to a windows network with Samba. I can open my various file types over the network, but I can't open any sort of video file.00:44
ChoreboyI can copy the file locally then open, but it won't open over the network.00:44
Jucatooh samba... sorry I can't help there...00:45
* Jucato has no samba :/00:45
ChoreboyHmm. It's the strangest thing. And I don't know ANYTHING about Linux... I'm trying to switch but when I run into problems it makes it hard to STAY switched :-(00:45
crash_Pray with me now, as I try the upgrade process to Kubuntu 800:45
robotgeekChoreboy: hmm, lemme google00:46
ChoreboyOK well how's this... I can't install java runtime environment, it errored out. Now I have 2 "updates" for Java, but they error as well.00:46
ChoreboyBeen using Adept package manager00:47
Choreboyor Adept installer or whatever it's called00:47
crash_Adept Package Manager00:47
Choreboyit seems like I have to agree to Sun's terms to use Java but I don't know how to agree to it.00:47
crash_but just Adept will do00:48
ChoreboyI wish I knew more about Linux. I love the idea of everyone working together and making a great product by the people for the people00:48
Choreboybut it makes me feel like such an artard.00:48
ChoreboyI have to re-learn everything :-\00:49
crash_No worries man00:49
taghastien41thank u robot for ur anser i need a solution for my hdd locked and password forgotten and gtran 6210 modem driver00:49
crash_Ive been a pc tech for 15 years00:49
crash_Im just still learning linux00:49
robotgeekcrash_: give me a second, i think i can find a link for you00:49
crash_a link?00:49
crash_for what?00:49
crash_I havent asked a question :P00:49
ChoreboyYeah I'm fairly familiar with various workings of Windows, I always help friend with minor tech support, but I would love to switch to Linux full time and play around with different distributions.00:50
robotgeeksorry, i think i meant Choreboy00:50
Choreboyoh ok thanks. I googled it but I couldn't find much on the subject00:50
mneptokChoreboy: <tab><enter>00:51
robotgeekChoreboy: hit f12, or more details and accept it00:51
crash_lol mneptok thats kinda cheating, isnt it?00:51
mneptokChoreboy: there is an <OK> field at the bottom of the Sun EULA00:51
Choreboywhat does tab enter do?00:51
KetrelI'm having trouble compiling something, I want to compile kanjipad 2.0, but I keep getting errors00:51
ChoreboyYeah I couldn't figure out how to get there00:51
Choreboyhmmm00:51
mneptokChoreboy: selects the <OK> button and then presses it00:51
Choreboylet me give it a shot, hold your breath00:51
crash_Ketrel: pastebin your errors. I cant help fix it, but I can tell you thats the first thing they want you to do.,00:52
Choreboyshould I uninstall what I have and reinstall, or just install the "updates"00:52
Ketrelok00:52
Ketrelone moment00:52
Choreboyok it shows me the EULA but I have no way to get to the <ok>00:53
Choreboytab enter doesn't work, mouse is a no go...00:54
crash_hm00:54
Choreboyit's just a bunch of pretty text on my screen that I can't access00:54
crash_if it were windows, I would give you the kb shortcuts to arrow the window around until you could see00:54
crash_tried just hitting enter?00:55
Ketrel_crash_: Here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ca/100110400:55
ChoreboyI can see the <ok> but I have no way to get a cursor in there to click on type or anything00:55
mneptokChoreboy: the mouse does not work in a terminal, sir00:55
ChoreboyI figured that but anything is worth a shot00:55
mneptokChoreboy: press <tab>. then press <enter>. it's not a key combo.00:56
ChoreboyI played around with it for a half hour before I went seeking help00:56
Choreboytried that too. Tried them separate, tried them together.00:56
mneptokChoreboy: and make sure the window is selected.00:56
crash_Ketrel_: Im sorry if I wasn't clear. *I* dont know squat about compiler errors. But the folks who CAN help you will want that pastebin00:56
Choreboyyes it's the active window00:56
ChoreboyI don't know what a pastebin is00:56
crash_!pastebin00:56
ubot5pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:56
JucatoKetrel_: looks like you'll have to ask in a kanjipad channel or help forums. it looks like an error in their source code00:57
JucatoKetrel_: is there a reason you don't want to use the kanjipad package in our repositories?00:57
crash_I thought the same. But I was nowhere near confident enough to say it00:57
Ketrel_Jucato: I'm trying to compile it first and then ask my second question "Can I use Linux to compile a windows binary of it"00:58
mneptokKetrel_: no.00:58
Jucatono00:59
ChoreboyI think my Kubuntu is broken. I guess Geek Squad will have to save me.00:59
ChoreboyLol I kid, I kid.00:59
Ketrel_Damn, that sucks :(00:59
nixboxi installed windows and it wiped the ubuntu bootloader, i do not have the live CD anymore, is there a way to restore ubuntu bootloader or boot into ubuntu other than using the live CD?01:00
Ketrel_I can't figure out how to get a workable enviornment to compile it on windows :\01:00
Ketrel_I've been looking forever for a program that did exactly that01:00
mneptokKetrel_: does it claim to work with Windows?01:00
Jucato!grub | nixbox01:00
ubot5nixbox: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:00
Jucatonixbox: see the first link ^^^^01:01
ChoreboyYou know guys, I have only been running Kubuntu since 8.04 was officially released and I don't have much on here... maybe I should just format and reinstall?01:01
Choreboybecause I am just not having luck with Samba, Java, etc.01:01
robotgeekChoreboy: no, you don't do that in Linux!01:01
Choreboyoh my.01:01
robotgeekheh01:01
Choreboywell what DO I do?01:01
ChoreboySamba won't let me open any video files over my network, Adept is giving me fits installing Java..01:02
robotgeekChoreboy: your samba thing, we will deal with later. first, you java thing01:02
Choreboyok Java it is.01:02
luisbuenas01:03
nosrednaekimpsyco: hey... could you help Choreboy with his java? probably has the same problem as you01:03
ChoreboyDo you guys type my name like "Choreboy:" or do you have a shortcut that throws my name down for ya?01:03
luishello01:03
ChoreboyI don't know jack about IRC either I just installed this so I could get some Linux help01:03
robotgeekChoreboy: i type <c <press tab key> and it completes it for me01:03
Choreboyah that's handy01:03
luishi need some help01:04
nosrednaekimluis: whats the problem?01:04
luis:) I'm a newbie01:04
robotgeekChoreboy: also leads to typing wrong names, if you dont watch it01:04
nosrednaekimluis: thats not a problem per se ;P01:04
luisI have just installed the new kubuntu 8.04 with the kde401:04
nosrednaekimChoreboy: ok, did yu install the sun java packages from the repositories?01:05
luisnow to get connected to internet, I need to install the package br2684ctl01:05
ChoreboyI tried to with Adept but it did not finish installing01:05
Choreboyit had an error, it seems to be PARTIALLY installed01:05
ahmoshi. what is the patch name that makes icons zoom in when i click them01:05
ChoreboyI never agreed to the EULA01:05
luismy problem is that without internet, I don't know how to download and install a package :)01:06
yoyomahello, i'm running kubuntu 8.04 but i don't get the flashy compiz stuff (cube effect and all).  how do i get that going?01:06
nosrednaekimyoyoma: system->desktop effects01:06
Choreboywait I thought Compiz was not on Kubuntu, just on Ubuntu01:06
nosrednaekimChoreboy: it works on kubuntu too01:06
Choreboyshows what I know01:07
luisnow, I'm using the old kubuntu right now at the same computer, I'd like to know how to download the package br2684ctl so I can reboot in kubuntu 8.04 and then install it01:07
Choreboywhich is very little unfortunately01:07
yoyomaok, i've done that.... installed and told it extra effects01:07
nosrednaekimluis: ok... one second01:07
yoyomai still don't get the cube or anything spectacular looking01:07
yoyomamy minimize and maximize looks cool though01:07
nosrednaekimyoyoma: ok... did you try Ctrl+alt+arrow?01:07
yoyomayeah.  i get a little rectangle in the middle with arrows on it01:07
yoyomanot a 3d cube that looks cool01:07
nosrednaekimyoyoma: or you can just set it to custom and install compizconfig-settings-manager01:08
nosrednaekimyoyoma: ah ok... its got the wrong plugin set up01:08
nosrednaekimccsm should fix that01:08
lwizardlhi01:08
lwizardlanyone here have a Digiwave or Twinhan 103G DVB card?01:08
yoyomaapt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager01:08
nosrednaekimChoreboy: ok, try installing java again, and agree to the EULA01:08
nosrednaekimyoyoma: with a sudo, yes01:08
Choreboyso uninstall (if possible) then reinstall?01:08
Choreboyhopefully I can un-do whatever it has done01:09
dwidmannThese random reboots are driving me *crazy*01:09
JucatoChoreboy: uninstall isn't always the answer. where are you now? I mean what problem?01:09
mneptokChoreboy: use a terminal01:09
ChoreboyI don't know how to use terminal :-(01:09
mneptokChoreboy: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin01:09
ChoreboyI am Linux retarded.01:09
JucatoChoreboy: we'll guide you01:09
mneptokChoreboy: good thing i just told you01:09
o0Chris0owhats the off topic channel? also..whats kde4 channel?01:10
Choreboyok sudo apt-get here I come01:10
Jucatoyou just have to type in or copy-paste the commands01:10
Jucatoo0Chris0o: #kubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-kde4 respectively01:10
Choreboyi've done a sudo apt-get install before01:10
yoyomanosrednaekim: sweet.  i see a zillion options now.  thanks!01:10
nosrednaekimluis: I'm not seeing a package by that name in hardy...01:10
JucatoChoreboy: so you're not as retarded as you think you are :)01:11
lwizardlI'm trying to install my Digiwave 103G DVB-S card and I don't know what I need to do to install this card. I'm a DVB newbie01:11
o0Chris0oJucato: ty01:11
Choreboywell only because I've been stumbling along blindly, I don't exactly know what I'm doing I just try random things :-)01:11
luisno?01:11
ChoreboyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:12
nosrednaekimlwizardl: check out th hardware support page.,.unfortunately the bot is not with us right now so you'll have to google it up01:12
luiswell, I'had that package with the old kubuntu 7.1001:12
nosrednaekimChoreboy: close any package managers...01:12
nosrednaekim!aptfix01:12
ubot5If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:12
mneptokChoreboy: close Synaptic or any other package management apps01:12
ChoreboyI had Adept open. My bad.01:12
JucatoChoreboy: close Adept if it is running01:12
* Jucato nods01:12
* mneptok notices what channel this is01:13
yoyomaholy cow this is cool01:13
* Jucato notices mneptok is in here :)01:13
yoyomathanks a bunch.  time for dinner01:13
mneptokyoyoma: what video card?01:13
yoyomaeh... nothing good right now01:13
yoyomamy radeon died the other day01:13
mneptokthat's not an answer01:13
yoyomathis is an older gforce01:13
mneptoksudo spt-get install nvidia-settings01:14
mneptok*apt01:14
mneptokkinda like compizconfig-settings-manager for your vidcard01:14
yoyomasweet01:14
Jucatomneptok: nvidia-settings conflicts with nvidia-glx stuff01:14
ChoreboyI'm still locked01:14
Jucatoiirc01:14
nosrednaekim!aptfix01:14
ubot5If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:14
Jucato!aptfix | Choreboy01:14
mneptokJucato: oh? working here.01:14
ubot5Choreboy: please see above01:14
Choreboyand I've closed Adept01:14
yoyomaok, one thing's gotta go.  now whatever window the mouse is over gets focus without clicking.01:15
Jucatonosrednaekim: it helps if you pipe the factoids to people during busy hours :)01:15
nosrednaekimyoyoma: general->focus IIRC01:15
mneptokyoyoma: FFM01:15
Jucatomneptok: oh I thought... it was before.. aaanyway :)01:15
mneptokJucato: maybe nvidia-glx-legacy? i can see the config panel choking on a Riva TNT. ;)01:15
Jucatooh yeah.. maybe legacy :)01:16
yoyomanosrednaekim: that was it.  thanks.01:16
yoyomamneptok: what's FFM?01:16
mneptok"You want me to do WHAT?! Dude! I'm *so* 1998!"01:16
mneptokyoyoma: focus follows mouse01:16
ChoreboyPackage sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:17
ChoreboyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:17
Choreboyis only available from another source01:17
yoyomamneptok: ok.  got that disabled... that was annoying.01:17
rrr3hmmm01:17
mneptokChoreboy: you'll need to enable the Multiverse repo and update01:17
luisgive me a hint, how can I download a package so I can reboot later and install it01:17
luis?01:18
yoyomai got a crash.  i better restart X01:18
rrr3what is GLX exactly01:18
Choreboysay one were to enable a Multiverse repository, how would one go about doing that01:18
Jaso!mp301:18
ubot5For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:18
Jucatomneptok: shouldn't uni and multi be enabled by default since feisty?01:18
JucatoChoreboy: are you an a 64-bit system?01:18
Choreboyyes01:18
Choreboy64 bit dualcore AMD01:19
robotgeekah :)01:19
Jucatono wonder :)01:19
nosrednaekim^_^01:19
alexandraHi all01:19
Choreboyah now it all makes so much sense!01:19
Choreboywait no it doesnt....01:19
ChoreboyJava doesn't work on 64 bit?01:19
yoyomahow come you can't have more than one desktop in kde?01:20
Jucatothe sun-java6-plugin doesn't01:20
Choreboyahhh01:20
Choreboywell I guess that's my bad for not mentioning it, I didn't realize it would be a problem01:20
Choreboybut hey everyone I gotta say I really appreciate all the effort helping me out on this stuff.01:20
yoyomaChoreboy:  these people are great01:20
JucatoChoreboy: Flash and Java have problems on 64-bit. as well as win32codecs stuff01:20
yoyomai pop in every now and then with some stupid problem, and they save me hours of googling01:21
Choreboyyeah hopefully when I learn Linux better I can help out some other no0b01:21
JucatoChoreboy: I think there are some docs that point out how to make Java work on 64-bit01:21
yoyomahehe01:21
Jucato!64bit01:21
ubot5AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.01:21
Jucatosee that link Choreboy ^^^ it might help01:21
Choreboycan do, thanks01:21
robotgeekChoreboy: if you are new to Linux, I would recommend going 32 bit first01:21
luishi01:21
ChoreboyI didn't know I would crop up with problems I just wanted to get the best performance possible01:22
nosrednaekimluis: hi... sorry, couldn't find that package01:22
nosrednaekim!info br2684ctl01:22
ubot5br2684ctl: Utility for configuring RFC 2684 ATM/Ethernet bridging. In component universe, is extra. Version 20040226-1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB01:22
Choreboyas a matter of fact I think i remember something about using a different kernel for dual core... would that have installed automatically with the AMD64 Kubuntu?01:22
nosrednaekimChoreboy: if you have less that 4Gigs of ram, you won't nitice a performance difference01:22
nosrednaekimluis: oh.. there is it...01:23
luishow can I download it, so I can reboot later in the new kubuntu and install it?01:23
nosrednaekim!packages | luis01:23
ubot5luis: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:23
ChoreboyWell I will have 4gb in the future but at the moment, notsomuch.01:23
nosrednaekimluis: go to that website a search for it01:23
nosrednaekimChoreboy: then go 32 bit01:24
yoyomaWhat's a "meta mode" in NVIDIA-X Server Settings?01:24
nosrednaekimLater guys... dinner time01:24
luismy problem is that my modem doesn't work yet01:24
yoyomabye, thanks for the help01:24
mneptokChoreboy: you installed the AMD64 version?01:24
Choreboyyessum.01:24
ChoreboyI thought that's what all the kool kids were doing.01:24
mneptokChoreboy: NO FLASH FOR YOU!01:24
Choreboyouch.01:24
robotgeeklol01:25
ChoreboyI thought I read something that flash would work even on the 64 bit system?01:25
mneptokwell, you get Gnash. Gnash is to Flash what RuPaul is to Natalie Portman.01:25
rrr3openaI use flash on amd6401:25
ChoreboyI thought I came across that on Java.com somewhere01:25
robotgeeklol01:25
rrr3I use flash on amd6401:25
robotgeekrrr3: point Choreboy on how to do it. be gentle :)01:25
rrr3(if I must)01:25
Choreboyoh wait I'm thinking 2 different things, Flash and Java01:25
luis:D ok let me see01:25
rrr3I just started firefox and there it was.   ubuntu 8.0401:25
ChoreboyBe gentle, it's my first time and I am out of lube :-(01:26
rrr3fortunatelly, I guickly remedied the flash by installing noflash plugin to block it01:26
harrishello, who are using UBUNTU? can someone help me?01:26
mneptokrrr3: you are using Gnash, then01:26
rrr3harris: I are using ubuntu. we all here is.01:26
rrr3mneptok: really?  well, youtube works, so01:26
mneptokrrr3: try pausing a YouTube video. in fact, try seeing any playback controls at all.01:26
harrisI am using KUBUNTU for 2 days and I want to migrate in UBUNTU..... I'm having problem....01:27
mneptokharris: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:27
mneptokharris: done. thankyoucomeagain.01:27
mneptok:)01:27
robotgeeklol01:27
Jaso!res01:27
ubot5The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:27
Falol01:27
harriswhat's the application equivalent of adept manager01:27
robotgeekharris: synaptic, in gnome01:28
Jaso!adept01:28
ubot5adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:28
mneptokSynaptic01:28
rrr3mneptok: I see all controlz01:28
Jasohow do i grt multiverse?01:28
ChoreboyI can view Youtube videos and control them so I must have Flash01:28
Jaso!multiverse01:28
ubot5The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:28
ChoreboyI can has Flashburger01:28
mneptokrrr3: only Gnash when you go to about:plugins in Firefox?01:28
JucatoJaso: if you are using Feisty or later versions, multiverse should be already enabled by default01:29
harrisis there an adeptmanager in UBUNTU?01:29
rrr3application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes01:29
rrr3application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes01:29
rrr3futuresplash? lol?01:29
harrisUBUNTU not KUBUNTU01:29
Falol01:30
rrr3harris: I dont think there is difference ubuntu vs kubuntu, besides that one have "kde" installed by default01:30
robotgeekChoreboy: yes, if it works, you don't have a problem :)01:30
Choreboythat's all good and well for Flash but I don't have Java01:30
Fai don't like gnome01:30
mneptokharris: 1). we already answered. - 2). it's Ubuntu. it's a name, not an acronym. :)01:30
harrisyessssss         BUT i cant find the adept manager in UBUNTU01:30
Famy name is ubuntu01:30
Falol01:30
BluesKajsynaptic01:30
Choreboydoesn't Ubuntu have Synaptec instead of Adept?01:30
mneptokharris: Synaptic01:30
mneptokharris: Synaptic01:30
mneptokharris: Synaptic01:30
rrr3Fa: gnome - user can't even set different background per desktop01:30
mneptok^^^ READ PLEASE ^^^01:30
Fai tried installing kde 4 from ubuntu01:31
Fadidn't work well01:31
Choreboylook at me! Almost helping fellow no0bs already!01:31
Fai am a noob01:31
Falol01:31
rrr3I tried installing kde from ubuntu.  didnt worked too well01:31
harrisAdept is Kubuntu's default package manager.        BUT how about UBUNTU....01:31
Faeither01:31
rrr3I tried gnome... also not too good01:31
harrisis there a adept01:31
harrisan adept in01:31
harrisUBUNTU01:31
Choreboyharris my man, you are not listening01:32
robotgeekharris: the equivalent is synaptic in ubuntu01:32
Faharris just download ubuntu01:32
Falol01:32
geniiharris: I think several ppl have told you "Synaptic"01:32
ChoreboySynaptic in Ubuntu, Adept in Kubuntu.01:32
harrisahhhhhhhhhhhh OK!!!01:32
harrisSynaptic is a software01:32
BluesKajgawd01:32
harrisSOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIII01:32
harrishehehehehehhe01:32
Falol01:32
geniiThe light bulb went on01:32
Jucato!caps | harris01:32
ubot5harris: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.01:32
harrisTHANKKKKSSS01:32
Fahow old harris?01:32
Jasoi can't manage my resps like i used to anyone know the new way01:32
harrisBULB !!!01:32
dwidmannDoes anybody know why I'm getting random keypresses in hardy?01:32
harris1501:32
* Jucato smashes the lightbulb01:32
Jasoi can't get multiverse.01:32
rrr3hector: you must pay 5 USD each time you use more then one cap while typing "Ubuntu".01:32
geniiJucato: hehe01:32
ChoreboyHarris you got yelled at by a bot hahahaha01:32
rrr3hector: its there in the license01:32
dwidmannxev says that control_L and shift_L are being pressed when I'm not even touching the keyboard!01:33
robotgeekrrr3: you must pay 5$ for using the wrong name :)01:33
BluesKajJucato, there otta be an age limit01:33
mneptok"Give me puberty or give me death."01:33
Fai am a bot01:33
harrishehehehehehe thnxxx01:33
Fabeep beep01:33
harriskill BOT01:33
Choreboycan you do robot dance?01:33
* Fa dies01:33
Choreboy"We lost many a good killbot that day."01:33
rrr3kill all humans01:33
Jucatohm.. ok.. enough with the offtopic ok?01:33
robotgeekpretty funny, but i remind ppl of #kubuntu-offtopic01:33
ChoreboySorry gang, but was my final answer that there will be no Java for me using 64bit?01:34
Faok what is java?01:34
Jasocoreymon77: hey01:34
Fais that coffee for your computer?01:34
robotgeek!java > Fa01:34
rrr3Fa: a language and SDK, that becomed GPL 5 years too late01:34
Fai'm kidding01:34
Fahehe01:34
dwidmannChoreboy: use ia32-sun-java6* and a 32-bit browser01:34
JucatoChoreboy: didn't you read the URL I gave earlier?01:35
dwidmannChoreboy: assuming what you want is the plugin01:35
mneptokChoreboy: for 64-bit you're going to use IcedTea01:35
Choreboyyes the plugin will do fine01:35
Fai only need flash01:35
ChoreboyIcedTea instead. I'll give that a shot01:35
mneptokChoreboy: sudo apt-get install icedtea-java7-plugin01:35
robotgeekicedtea, wow i have been away too long01:35
Jucatorobotgeek: indeed :)01:35
Jucatorobotgeek: it pays to have your feeds/mail online even when not on IRC :P01:36
Jaso!mp301:36
ubot5For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:36
Jasoagh...01:36
Jaso!wubi01:36
ubot5wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html01:36
robotgeeki have all the feeds and the mail, just not enough time earlier. i am hoping to get back in the game shortly01:36
harrisoKAY what's Is K in KDE?01:36
dwidmannrrr3: depending on how you look at it, even later, seein as there still hasn't been a gpl'd release01:37
Jucatoharris: it was previously "Kool", but that name only lasted a few days. now it's just "K"01:37
yoyomaok, i got the desktop effects working, but X crashed and i had to restart X.  now, the effects aren't working, even though they're installed and "i believe" enabled01:37
FaK for kamakazi01:37
Jucatoharris: read stuff in www.kde.org if you want to know more01:37
harriswhich is better KDE or GNOME?01:37
robotgeekharris: originally Kool, but now stands for KDE01:38
Jucato!better | harris01:38
ubot5harris: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you really insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.01:38
Fadepends harris01:38
harrisheheheeehe u BOT01:38
Choreboyoh my sweet Torvalds! <tab> <enter> worked!!01:39
geniiharris: Neither window manager is really better or worse than the other. It just depends on how you like to interact with your computer.01:39
Fai have to agree01:39
Fai prefer kde obviously01:39
ChoreboyWhile I brew myself some IcedTea, can someone please tell me again where to go for desktop effects?01:40
yoyomaSystem -> Desktop Effects01:40
robotgeekChoreboy: K-Menu ->  system -> Desktop effects01:40
robotgeek:)01:40
yoyomarobotgeek:  do you know why they would not be working, even if enabled?  they worked a few minutes ago until X server crashed.  i rebooted to xfix and now they're not working01:41
ChoreboyI went to SYSTEM, there is no Desktop Effects in there.01:41
yoyomaAre you on 8.04?01:41
Choreboyyep01:41
yoyomahmm01:41
yoyomawhat ver of KDE?01:41
ChoreboyK>System>nada01:41
ChoreboyKDE401:41
yoyomaoh... hmm01:41
yoyomatry lost and found or something like that01:42
Choreboymaybe somewhere in system settings?01:42
robotgeekkde4 might have it in a different place01:42
JucatoChoreboy: I don't think it's available for KDE 4 though01:42
yoyomaKDE4 hasn't won me over at all... since the fonts are like .000004mm tall in it01:42
Jucatotry asking in #kubuntu-kde401:42
Fait's not Jucato01:42
Choreboyalright let me see what they have to say about it01:42
dwidmannDoes anybody, anybody at all, have any idea why my keyboard is getting random keypresses that shouldn't be happening? It's *very* annoying01:43
Choreboyspilled soda.01:43
yoyomarobotgeek:  i think i figured it out.  i think the xfix removed the 3d proprietary nvida driver01:43
robotgeekyoyoma: ah okay.01:43
Choreboyalright here's a fun question.. how do I get into a different IRC channel?01:44
robotgeekChoreboy: /j #kubuntu-offtopic01:44
mneptok /join #channelname01:44
geniiChoreboy: /j #channelname01:44
Jucatooh for goodness' sake! just click on the channel name :P01:44
robotgeekdwidmann: is this a laptop? which os are you running? erc etc01:44
dwidmannrobotgeek: no, kubuntu hardy01:44
robotgeekdwidmann: is it random in the sense that different keys appear, or type when nothing is hit?01:45
Fahardy boys01:45
dwidmannrobotgeek: specifically it is the left and right control keys, it's random in the sense that I didn't push the keys,k I found out because konqueror access keys nuts, so I ran xev and let it sit a few minutes01:46
yoyomathis is ironic.  kde3+compiz is running much, much more smoothly on this old geforce 5200 than it did on my year old radeon01:47
aaroncampbellMy printer quit working after the upgrade to 8.04.  Here is some dmesg output: http://paste2.org/p/2392101:48
dwidmannwow, I'm typing rather unintelligbly today01:49
reagleBRKLNhi, just installed 8.04 on my system. alsamixer and kplayer works fine as root, but as a user I get alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device01:50
robotgeekdwidmann: i am trying to lookup bugs on launchpad01:50
rrr3reagleBRKLN: try adding self to audio group and re-loggingin01:50
reagleBRKLNis there someway to specify the device01:50
Dr_willisaaroncampbell,  mine stops working, till i unplug/plug it back in.. its getting on my nerves01:50
reagleBRKLNrrr3: yes, did that01:50
robotgeekdwidmann: while you wait, paste the output of the command "xprop -root | grep XKB"01:51
aaroncampbellDr_willis: it's a network printer01:51
Dr_willisaaroncampbell,  im thinking theres some deeper cups issue going on. the printer-icon-status thing says it cant 'write to directory'01:51
aaroncampbellDr_willis: Actually, my bluetooth kb/mouse doesn't work until I unplug the dongle and plug it back in...01:51
dwidmannrobotgeek: _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "xorg", "pc105", "us", "", ""01:51
robotgeekdwidmann: i have the same thing. are you sure your keyboard works okay?01:52
reagleBRKLNas user: alsamixer /dev/snd/controlC0 -> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device01:52
reagleBRKLNbut it does exist01:52
reagleBRKLNcrw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 0 Apr 28 20:36 /dev/snd/controlC001:52
ChoreboyOK FYI everyone I got my answer, there is no Compiz on KDE4 by default01:53
geniiaaroncampbell: I'm pretty sure it's this bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/15300301:53
ubot5Launchpad bug 153003 in cupsys "inode_permission error for cupsd on /dev/tty" [Undecided,Won't fix]01:53
dwidmannrobotgeek: with the exception of the random ctrl_l and shift_l thing, yes, it works okay01:53
reagleBRKLNi am in audio, and have relogged in01:53
robotgeekdwidmann: i mean physically, say on a different OS01:53
dwidmannrobotgeek: I don't use other OSs.01:53
rrr3Choreboy: so how to get compiz in kde01:53
rrr3how to get compiz in kde on ubuntu 8.04 amd6401:53
Dr_willis!compiz01:54
ubot5Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:54
robotgeekdwidmann: okay, what about from a live cd?01:54
dwidmannthis keyboard has _always_ worked in the past, ie, pre-hardy01:55
Dr_willisKDE4 has its own alternative to compiz, thus kde4 dosent need compiz01:55
robotgeekdwidmann: okay, i would recommend you to file a bug. sorry!01:55
robotgeek!bug01:55
ubot5If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots01:55
Jasowhile trying to install my wireless card... i got this error http://pastebin.com/m2dd3c5c5 from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40599001:55
Jucatono! don't file robotgeek!!!01:56
dwidmannJucato: o.O01:56
robotgeeklol01:56
Jucato:D01:56
rignesHello everyone.01:57
rignesIs it true, the rumor I hear, that KDE4 and KDE3 can co-exist on the same computer w/o screwing eachother up?01:57
robotgeekJaso: sudo apt-get install python-gtk201:57
Faerr rignes i tried that01:57
Jasof01:57
Fanot good lol01:57
rignesHehe01:57
rignesSee, that's why I wanted to ask.01:58
Choreboyo noes! Someone help! I tried to activate desktop effects and now I'm stuck in an endless login loop!!01:58
Fajust one big mess01:58
Jasocoreymon77: are you there?01:58
rignesI have Hardy all setup, the stable "desktop" version.  I don't want to ruin all my tweaking.01:58
rignesI'll just have to find a spare system or try the alternative install in a VM or something.01:58
Farignes i tried it trust me01:59
Falol01:59
ChoreboyAnyone? I tried restarting and I'm still stuck in a login loop01:59
DarkShinigamiI'm now 8.0401:59
Fano clue i'm a newbie01:59
DarkShinigamiHow do I update my GRUB?02:00
crash_stupid ndiswrapper02:00
zero88Why doesnt kubuntu auto mount?02:00
robotgeekChoreboy: hmm, lemme think about that. i presume you are on a different machine02:00
Choreboyyes I have been on my windows machine, using remote desktop to get on IRC02:01
DarkShinigami!grub02:01
ubot5grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:01
rignesFa: I'll take your work for it.  What sort of funkieness did you see when you tried?02:01
Fajust one big mess02:01
rignesHehe02:01
Fai didn't play with it too long02:01
rignesOk, I'll stick with KDE3 + Compiz.02:02
robotgeekChoreboy: do you have nvidia/ati/intel?02:02
zero88How do you set automount?02:02
Faif you're happy don't change it02:02
rignesNot gonna.02:02
ChoreboyI have AMD with onboard graphics02:02
rignesNot after all the tweaking time I just spent.02:02
Falol02:02
robotgeekChoreboy: okay.02:03
Fais there a way to back up entire partition?02:03
rignesClonezilla?02:03
rignesPartimage?02:03
combomanI've written my own shell (for a project) and I need to test the input redirection of it, anyone know any good linux commands I could use to test the input redirection?02:03
mrmonkeymanis there no disks and file systems in 8.04?02:03
geniidd?02:03
rignesSpeaking of clonezilla...I should make an image of this laptop..just incase.02:04
combomanwhat is dd?02:04
Falol rignes02:04
robotgeekChoreboy: is you hit ctrl + alt + f1, you should get a terminal02:04
BraelochI have a problem, between Kubuntu and my widescreen monitor. I could use some help.02:05
robotgeekBraeloch: is it a 1680x1050 ?02:05
Braelochrobotgeek: 1440x90002:05
crash_is there a command I need to run after inserting a cardbus device in order to make kubuntu "see" it?02:05
mrmonkeymanwhat is the problem Braeloch I have the same screen02:06
Choreboyrobotgeek: cntrl+alt+F1 just locked it up02:06
Choreboyat the login screen02:06
robotgeekChoreboy: eeks02:06
Choreboyeeks is right. Hard reset.02:07
Braelochmrmonkeyman: When I boot into Kubuntu, everything is piled up on the right-hand side of my screen. It will not take advantage of the full widescreen 8:5 aspect ratio. (For the record, my video card is nVidia 8500 GT and the drivers are up to date.)02:07
mrmonkeymanIs there anything like kio-sysinfo that is working on 8.04?02:07
DarkShinigamiHow do I update GRUB?02:09
mrmonkeymanwhat version of kubuntu are you using?02:09
reagleBRKLNso, i can play an mp3 as a user with xine and here it, but not with mplayer or in kde apps... what could that be?02:09
Braelochmrmonkeyman: 8-point-something.02:10
bazhang!grub | DarkShinigami02:10
ubot5DarkShinigami: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:10
robotgeekreagleBRKLN: kde apps, as in kaffeine?02:10
mrmonkeymanK give me a sec02:11
dwidmannrobotgeek: Well, I think I'll give the evdev driver a try before I go reporting bugs, if I remember right I have had this problem before and that's what I did ..... which would make it a kbd driver problem02:11
Braelochmrmonkeyman: k02:11
robotgeekdwidmann: ah okay. cool02:12
reagleBRKLNaha, working now, will try a reboot and see if it hold02:12
DarkShinigamiI didn't lose GRUB. I didn't update the kernel in menu.lst02:13
mrmonkeymanWhat does is say on System Settings/ Display?02:14
Choreboyis there a way to undo what I did to get the computer in the login loop?02:14
Choreboybecause ctrl+alt+F1 is still locking it up at the login screen02:14
Braelochmrmonkeyman: I am not logged into Kubuntu at the moment, because I don't know how to access IRC from it yet. (I am brand new to Kubuntu, having installed it on the recommendation of a friend who thought I'd enjoy a new experience.)02:15
dwidmannrobotgeek: though ... I really should still report that bug, shoudl have done it two months ago and then I woudln't be dealing with it right now02:15
robotgeekdwidmann: yes you should :)02:16
robotgeeklater02:16
mrmonkeymanoh, well in that case02:16
mrmonkeymancheck there and make sure the resolution is correct02:16
affanhi all.... i am using Broadcom 4306 card for wireless. Do I have to use ndiswrapper? I remember last time i installed Kubuntu it worked without it02:16
Braelochmrmonkeyman: How do I access System Settings?02:17
mrmonkeymanAlso, I noticed on mine when I installed it that the whole screen was to the right as well and I changed the settings on the monitor itself02:17
mrmonkeymanI have it on my favorites02:18
Braelochmrmonkeyman: When I tried to change the monitor itself, the menu display showed the screen was moving according to the changes I was making but Kubuntu itself didn't move at all.02:19
crash__holy wootness! My wifi card decided to work!!02:20
mrmonkeymanthen check the settings on a terminal type systemsettings02:21
mrmonkeymanto open it02:21
Dr_willisaffan,  if it dident need it befor.. I doubt if it needs it now.02:22
Dr_willisaffan,  there have been a lot of changes to the broadcom drivers however.02:22
ChoreboyCan anyone help? My system is a giant toaster now :-(02:23
crash__I have some pop-tarts..02:23
affanDr_willis: are there drivers for linux available from broadcom, do you know?02:23
Choreboymy cdrom refuses to toast.02:23
PremNeed help with wireless setup in Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 402:23
Dr_willisaffan,  I just had to in stall the bw fw cutter tools and my card worked.02:23
PremI have Broadcom Wireless cards02:24
Dr_willistheres DOZENS of types of broadcom cards. :)02:25
PremCan you walk through the setup?02:25
Dr_willisits the chipset of the card thats imporntant02:25
Choreboyhuzzah I have logged into console! Now can someone tell me where to go from there to undo the damage I did by enabling desktop effects?02:25
PremBroadcom BCM431202:25
PremI got the "bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060108-6build1_amd64.deb"02:26
Braelochmrmonkeyman: I'm going to log into Kubuntu. This is retarded, trying to jump back and forth. I'm hoping kvirc proves to be a capable IRC client. If so, I'll be back here in a few moments.02:26
Preminstalling this will solve my problem?02:26
Dr_willisPrem,  depends on your wireless cards specific chipset.02:27
Premhow do I find that?02:27
mrmonkeymanok I'm using konversation02:27
Dr_willisPrem,  i dont download specific debs. i grabbed the  b43-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware02:27
Dr_willis  for my card02:27
Dr_willis!wireless02:27
ubot5Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:27
Premthere are so many docs there02:29
Premwhich to look into?02:29
mrmonkeymanIs there an application for 8.04 that works like disks and filesystems did on 7.10?02:30
Choreboymy poor shiny new system is fubar.02:30
rrr3Choreboy: hehe02:31
rrr3Choreboy: have same problem02:32
rrr3I installed the desktop effects and ubuntu  FAILED02:32
rrr3massivly02:32
rrr3Choreboy: report bug to lunchpad, eventually someone will fix then02:32
Choreboyis there a way to undo the latest system changes? A system restore, if you will..02:32
ChoreboyI can't report a bug to anyone anywhere, I can't get on my syste02:32
rrr3Choreboy: I guess you want to disable Xgl, googld how to do that.  afair, like  /etc/Xgl/disabled or something02:32
rrr3Choreboy: report once you can,  or get a laptop / livecd / etc02:33
Choreboyi have a live CD, can that help me repair my booboo?02:33
affan_Dr_willis: i just installed fwcutter and it worked!!02:33
rrr3Choreboy: first, report the bug, so that developers will know they failed. then they may fix it even :)02:34
mrmonkeymanChoreboy, rrr3 go there http://monkeyland.samutz.com/?page_id=2502:34
rrr3Choreboy: if you can't even go to console, then livecd would be helpfull02:34
mrmonkeymanit's not a bug02:34
Dr_willisaffan_,  magical eh? :)02:34
mrmonkeymanyour xorg.conf file is just messed up02:34
ChoreboyI a in console now02:34
Choreboybut I don't know what to do02:34
affan_Dr_willis: let me restart and see if the magic holds ;)02:34
mrmonkeyman Choreboy, rrr3 go there http://monkeyland.samutz.com/?page_id=2502:35
rrr3mrmonkeyman: yeah02:35
Dr_willisWell so far under hardy.. I got Samba share browsing constantly breaking.. and my printer keeps gettting lost... :(02:35
Choreboymrmonkeyman: thanks, but I fail to see what that has to do with my login loop problem?02:35
rrr3Dr_willis: I found a number of failures in ubuntu 8.04, using it only today02:36
rrr3Dr_willis: report them all02:36
Dr_willisrrr3,  i had reported them.. ages ago.02:36
aaroncampbellgenii: Thanks for that link to the appArmour printing bug, it WAS the problem, and I can print again.  You don't have any magic solutions for sound that stopped working do you?02:36
rrr3Dr_willis: then bug developers02:36
Daisuke-IdoDr_willis: thank you, you just reminded me i have to re-set up my printer :)02:37
Dr_willisrrr3,  i cant seem to figure out the cause. cant find any rhyme or reason for why its doing it.02:37
mrmonkeymanyour login loop problem is because when you log in it tries to load the desktop effects but fails and takes you back to login screen02:37
geniiaaroncampbell: Hehe if Intel HDA possibly02:37
rrr3Dr_willis: bug cannonical to get moving, or stop lying that the system is mature and stable02:37
ChoreboyKDE4 desktop effects, nothing to do with Compiz02:37
mrmonkeymanso you need to disable the desktop effects through console which only way to do that is by fixking the xorg.conf file02:37
Dr_willisrrr3,  should i demand a refund also!02:37
geniiaaroncampbell: There is an !intelhda factoid here for solving that one02:37
Dr_willis:)02:37
rrr3Dr_willis: well, it is 250 usd for the support02:37
PremDr_willis I'm lost in Doc list02:37
Premfor Wifi02:38
Choreboyfix the xorg.conf file, check. I have no idea what that means but it sounds like the right thing to do.02:38
aaroncampbellgenii: I'm pretty sure that's what I did with gutsy, but it didn't seem to work with Hardy :|02:38
Dr_willisPrem,  you know about as much about wifi as I do now.. You are on your own from there. :)02:38
Prem:)02:38
aaroncampbell!intelhda02:38
ubot5For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:38
robotgeekPrem: what card do you have?02:38
mrmonkeymankde4 desktop effects is compiz02:38
geniiaaroncampbell: Yeah thats the one. Sound issues are not my strong area normally however.02:39
aaroncampbellThanks02:39
Choreboyyou sure? #Kubuntu-KDE4 told me there is no Compiz02:39
mrmonkeymango to /etc/X11/02:39
klobsterI got issues with dpkg, it kicks out an error with exit status 139.  Any ideas?02:39
klobsterand hi02:39
mrmonkeymanits' the same thing, does the same thing02:40
mrmonkeymanubuntu did the same thing since i don't know what version where they put nice02:40
mrmonkeymanbutton that said enable desktop effects02:40
Dr_willisKDE4 has its own alternative to compiz.02:40
mrmonkeymanwhich would install compiz02:40
mrmonkeymanyes but it does the same thing02:40
Dr_willisIts not 'compiz' however.02:40
mrmonkeymanits' still 3d desktop effects02:41
Dr_willisactually it has less features then compiz02:41
Dr_willisits not the compiz program, or code. its a similer feature. - if you want kde and compiz, use kde3 and install the compiz stuff.02:41
mrmonkeymanbut if it messes up just like compiz does do you not fix it the same way as u do compiz02:42
klobsterwhat is the command for the running process gui?02:42
mrmonkeymanby taking out all the extra stuff on xorg.conf02:42
Dr_willisMy xorg.conf is about as minimal as they get.02:43
rrr3lol they really failed02:43
Dr_willisI dont know what you would do in xorg.conf go 'fix' compiz really. Ive never had to do so.02:43
rrr3everyone seems to have this "uh I will try this cool 3d stuff...  AYEEEEEE my desktop is borked!!!!"  problem.02:43
klobsteralso, now when I run a nonexistant command in kstart -> run, it opens a firefox window searching for it?!?02:43
Dr_willisCompiz is still very much a work in progress02:44
toyo|deskis there a way that I can remove KDE3 and only have KDE 402:44
Dr_willistoyo|desk,  given the lack of features of kde4, you proberly dont want to just use kde402:44
klobsteralso i borked webmin02:44
toyo|deskoh I see02:44
toyo|deskDr_willis, but it is technically possible?02:44
klobsterand i am still on gutsy02:45
mrmonkeymanthen how would one disable the desktop effects?02:45
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Dr_willistoyo|desk,  of course.. theres even a kubuntu isntall cd that has kde4 instead of kde302:46
toyo|deskoh ok02:46
toyo|deskhmm well then02:46
Dr_willismrmonkeyman,  kde4 has some setting tools/check box's to disable all that stuff.02:46
toyo|deskI will look into that later I think02:46
toyo|desk:D02:46
mrmonkeymanyeah but u need to be in gui to check that02:46
toyo|deskanyway bbl02:47
ChoreboyI have to go, gang. Thanks for the help. I have not fixed this problem though, so you may see me in the near future02:47
Dr_willismrmonkeyman,  err.. so? Ive totally lost the point of this discussion now...  was there an original problem?02:47
Choreboybut at the moment this Linux user needs to go get some luvins. Yes, rare... but it does happen.02:48
mrmonkeymanyes, desktop effects are not working to the point where you can't log into the gui02:48
Dr_willismrmonkeyman,  compiz has a speficic file/setting in the users home dir - that can disable compiz,  thats not having anything to do with exiting the xorg.conf file. as for kde4's settings. No idea there. I dont mess with kde4 . ask in the kde4 channel if they have a similer feature.02:49
michael__Why is the KDE web browser so slow?02:50
mrmonkeymank, I was trying to help choreboy he was the one with the problem02:50
Fais it?02:50
michael__It's slow compared to Firefox02:50
Dr_willisive totally missed the original problem then. :)02:50
mrmonkeymanNow if you want to know my problem though, its that I cannot find disks and file systems on 8.04 with kde402:51
mrmonkeymanin the system settings02:52
michael__I'm upgrading to 8.04 now02:52
Fahave fun michael02:52
michael__It's almost done with the download02:52
michael__I had regular Ubuntu Hardy but I decided to go with the KDE version02:53
Dr_willisI went back to gnome... and realized WHY i gave up on gnome now.02:53
Dr_willisThe gnome file manager just dosent 'work' the way I work... :) with managing files.02:53
michael__I usually use the best from both desktops02:54
michael__works best that way02:54
michael__I don't really like the Dolphin file manager02:55
Dr_willisyea. but its the default gnome file manager i have issues with. :)02:55
michael__See I like the default Gnome file manager02:55
mrmonkeymanwhat is the best way of managing hard drives and partions with kde?02:55
michael__Dolphin is a pain because if you go to the root you have to login as root02:55
Dr_willisand how it does this 'shift click to move/select a range' stuff..is constantly messing up on me.. I go back to using mc in a terminal window.02:55
Dr_willismrmonkeyman,  manage how? Ive used the parted tools to resize, and alter them and so forth.02:56
michael__See when I have Dolphin I use the Xterminal02:56
michael__It's easier to command line02:56
Dr_willisI normally remove Dolphin. :)02:57
mrmonkeymanin that way02:57
michael__My Kubuntu is on it's own drive as is my XP02:57
michael__If I could play my games with Wine I would get rid of windows completely02:58
dwidmannHow exactly does KDE's CPU load sensor work with regards to SMP systems? Does it measure the collective load where 100% = all logical CPUs maxed out?02:58
mrmonkeymanjust wanting something more graphical02:59
dwidmannDr_willis: d3lphin or dolphin?02:59
geniidwidmann: On my box it seems to go more like: 1st cpu hits 80-85% other 3 are ~7% each and the load sensor says 25% etc02:59
michael__We're trying to convince our boss to get rid of Vista on our Machines at work and put Linux on them.  Since most of what we do is browser and remote desktop based03:00
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DarkShinigamiHow do I shrink the text size for my login? The "asterisk"/dots are big03:00
rignesFa: I'm not as impressed by KDE4 as I thought I would be.03:00
dwidmanngenii: I'm going to assume that's a yes03:00
Fagive it time rignes03:01
geniidwidmann: Basically yes. Although it doesn't do something like work all cpus equally, it maxes #1 then works on #2, and so on03:01
dwidmannrignes: a) it may grow on you - b) it's not going to be "complete" until august03:01
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lordhola03:01
dwidmanngenii: which is why I'm using taskset to force things like kcryptd onto #403:02
geniidwidmann: Ah, OK :)03:02
rignesdwidmann: It may.  We'll see. ;)03:02
lordhola a todosss03:02
rignesIt has a nice smooth look.03:02
lordalguien que porfa me pueda ayudar muchas gracias03:02
genii!es | lord03:03
ubot5lord: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:03
dwidmanngenii: it's really annoying the way it does that like you said ... results in the system slowing down, a lot.03:03
lordgracias muchas gracias03:03
dwidmanngenii: IMO I shouldn't have to taskset for my system to be usable under load :(03:04
geniidwidmann: I'd definitely like to see each cpu being used equally instead. Because it puts more load on the first few a lot03:04
genii(the way it currently is)03:04
Dr_willisdwidmann,  Both. :)03:05
Dr_williswork time for me.03:05
dwidmanngenii: I wonder if there are any kernel options to alter how it loads the CPUs03:07
dwidmanngenii: compile time ... that is03:07
geniidwidmann: No idea03:07
o0Chris0okubuntu is pretty cool and all..but some of the settings arent there like on kde3...like screensavers...the configure taskbar..etc03:07
o0Chris0oweird03:07
mrmonkeymanit seems more gnome like now like if they don't want you to configure anything03:08
klobsterhello!03:09
o0Chris0oyeah03:09
o0Chris0odamn it03:09
o0Chris0ooops03:09
o0Chris0osorry03:09
klobsteradept is giving me issues, any help?03:09
dwidmanno0Chris0o: KDE4 isn't finished yet, things you're missing now will likely be present in August03:09
Ahmuck.03:09
dwidmannmrmonkeyman: sad I know :(03:10
o0Chris0oI see03:10
o0Chris0oso I switched to kde4 for nothing :(03:10
o0Chris0olol03:10
Braelochmrmonkeyman: Well, no luck.03:10
o0Chris0ohow do I install kde3 and get rid of kde4?03:10
o0Chris0olol03:10
dwidmanno0Chris0o: you can still use it some, find some bugs for devs to squash03:11
Braelochmrmonkeyman: And I didn't realize you had to teach Kubuntu how to run an install program. I clicked the setup icon for KVIRC and it asked me what program I wanted to associate *.exe files with. So I was left baffled.03:11
Ahmuckfollow the white rabbit03:11
o0Chris0odwidmann: yeah I could, but I am not really good bug finding person03:12
mrmonkeymanif it was a *.exe then you need wine to install it03:12
Braelochmrmonkeyman: I'm beginning to suspect you have to be a total geek to enjoy Kubuntu.03:12
aaroncampbellgenii: Found my sound issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/21320603:13
ubot5Launchpad bug 213206 in linux "SoundMAX AD1988B- no digital audio" [Undecided,New]03:13
mrmonkeymanyou know, try 7.10 with kde3 and you will enjoy yourself a lot more03:13
RurouniJonesOr it sounded like you downloaded the wrong kvirc binary03:13
geniiaaroncampbell: Looks like you're two for two on solutions so far :)03:13
aaroncampbellno solution for that one yet :|03:13
mrmonkeymanI'm finding I'm having to many headaches with this new 8.04 version that I hve not had since 6.0603:13
geniiaaroncampbell: Ah, too bad :(03:13
aaroncampbellyeah03:14
Braelochmrmonkeyman: Anyhow, I found System Settings and checked out the Monitor/Display settings. Everything looked as it should. Resolution was set to 1440x900, refresh rate was correct, it recognized my monitor and video card, etc, etc. And yet this problem.03:14
mrmonkeymanThat's weird, because it sounds like everything is correct to where it should work, I can't think of anything else...Sorry :(03:15
o0Chris0owhats the difference bentween ubuntu and kubuntu besides the GUI? is gnome pretty good?03:15
mrmonkeymangnome is i look pretty but wont let you configure much03:15
mrmonkeymanits more mac like03:15
o0Chris0oI see03:16
o0Chris0oI like the weather feature you can put in the toolbar03:16
Braelochmrmonkeyman: I'm baffling anyone I talk to. No worries.03:16
o0Chris0oand the window sfx03:16
o0Chris0owhen you move em03:16
mrmonkeymanthis new 8.04 with kde4 is feeling like gnome though so right now I could not tell you the real differences03:16
o0Chris0oso, how do I successfully and completely remove kde4 and downgrade to kde3?03:17
BraelochI'd like to know, too03:18
o0Chris0oI should of just checked it out on Live CD before installing it lol03:18
RurouniJoneshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=666568&highlight=remove+kde403:19
BraelochThanks RurouniJones.03:19
o0Chris0oty RurouniJones03:19
o0Chris0o:)03:19
RurouniJonesThere are a few suggestions in that forum.03:19
RurouniJones sudo aptitude purge kde4 kde4-core seems to be the most straightforward, note I havent tried these03:19
RurouniJonesThere is also a longer set of instructions that has one person saying it worked for them03:20
o0Chris0oalright, I will give it a try :)03:20
will00how well does kubuntu cooperate with touchscreens?03:21
klobsterhello, any chance on tech support?03:21
RurouniJonesklobster: Just ask the question, if anyone can help they will03:21
o0Chris0oI forgot which linux does, some bar room table top games use linux for their os03:22
* Braeloch mutters something about wanting an iMac, and heads off for the night03:22
klobsterI have questions about adept.  exit error status 139.  any help?03:22
o0Chris0oand they are touchscreens03:22
will00o0Chris0o iv heard about that03:23
will00im tryin to set up a new register for my boss, and he wants me to build a cheaper version than the prebuilts03:23
xieoive got this odd problem.. the install cd gives me this "buffer i/o error on device fd0." i know it has to do with the floppy, but later on in the install kubuntu doesn't recognize either of my sata drives03:23
xieoim not sure if the problems are related, but if this problem occurs often, id like to know if theres a work around or something :)03:24
RurouniJonesxieo, what motherboard do you have03:24
RurouniJonesgoogle for your motherboard make and ubuntu + install03:24
xieoalright, ill give that a go03:24
xieothanks03:25
RurouniJonesSounds like it probably has one of those cheapo SATA RAID chips which aren great03:25
RurouniJonesmay be causing an issue03:25
xieo:/03:25
xieoi was afraid of htat03:25
o0Chris0owill00: yeah I wouldn't of ever known they were linux till I had to turn one on and watch it boot up03:26
cahuezwohooo, i'm doing the kubuntu distro upgrade right now, just 5 hours left to get kubuntu 8.04 done...!!03:26
will00o0Chris0o, do you have any experience with this03:27
cahuezbut the best part, kubuntu working as usual at my turion_64 chic, hehe..!03:27
o0Chris0owill00: actually I am pretty new to linux03:27
o0Chris0oso no, not really03:27
klobsterthanks, everyone...  I am glad i helped you when you had problems...03:29
yoyomahas anyone got pptp vpn to work in kubuntu 8.04?03:29
o0Chris0oklobster, you were asked to ask the question03:29
mikehey03:34
o0Chris0owell bbl03:35
o0Chris0ogonna get kde3 back03:35
yoyomaman, i thought pptp vpn was supposed to be fixed in 8.0403:37
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coreymon77hi guys, im back03:44
yoyomasigh03:46
yoyomait looks like the 8.04 version of knetworkmanager still doesn't support PPTP VPN connections03:46
yoyomathis was a big in 7.10 that was supposed to be fixed, i believe03:46
coreymon77knetworkmanager is a piece of arse03:47
coreymon77really bad program03:47
coreymon77always has been03:47
yoyomahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/15186703:49
ubot5Launchpad bug 151867 in knetworkmanager "vpn pptp on Kubuntu is not available" [Undecided,Fix released]03:49
yoyomathat is just frustrating.  pptp (windows vpn server) is probably the most common corporate vpn server type out there... and it's not supported by kubuntu03:50
yoyomathat's the last piece of the puzzle that keeps me on dual boot kubuntu + xp03:51
sparr__yoyoma: im connected to a pptp vpn right now, using knetworkmanager in kubuntu03:53
sparr__yoyoma: however, i had to configure it in nm-applet (the gnome network manager)03:53
sparr__have you tried using nm-applet instead of knetworkmanager?03:54
yoyomai did on 7.0403:55
sparr__it worked for me in 7.04, 7.10, and now in 8.0403:55
yoyomasorry, i meant 7.1003:55
yoyomagutsy gibbon03:55
sparr__it takes a lot of trial and error, because different pptp implementations ignore different parts of the spec, or use different names for things03:56
sparr__and i think i had to add some route entries manually03:56
sparr__so that local networking still worked alongside the vpn03:56
sparr__which is a bonus...03:56
yoyomayeah03:56
sparr__windows xp can't do that, afaik03:56
yoyomai'm just surprised something so useful still doesn't work....03:56
sparr__every other user of our work vpn has no internet access when using the vpn03:56
sparr__i do  :)03:56
yoyomabut it's hard to complain when it's free and i'm not a developer03:56
yoyomathere's an option in XP to specify whether to always use the remote gateway or not03:57
crash__sparr: they missed a checkbox03:57
sparr__ugh03:57
crash__happens all the time03:57
sparr__i thought i was using 8.0403:57
crash__internet + vpn is possible on XP03:57
sparr__apparently my dist-upgrade STILL isnt finished03:57
|dthacker|Hi, I just had to do a hard boot because open office froze up and now I freeze when the display manager starts up.03:57
* sparr__ downloads another 175MB of packages, to finish installing 2GB of packages03:57
yoyomahehe03:58
sparr__|dthacker|: ctrl alt f103:58
|dthacker|rebooting03:58
sparr__for the record, do not reboot during a dist-upgrade03:58
sparr__how can i switch from mythbuntu to kubuntu startup/shutdown screens?03:58
RurouniJonessparr__: They do tell you that in the instructions :)03:59
sparr__RurouniJones: yes, but one might THINK the dist-upgrade is done when its not03:59
yoyomabah.  well, seeya guys.  i've gotta boot to XP to get work done :(04:00
sparr__when dpkg exits complaining of a single error, it makes me happy.  unfortunately i didnt notice 2000 lines earlier in the output that that error blocked over half the dist-upgrade from completing04:00
|dthacker|wow, it's back.04:00
sparr__i would file a bug report on dpkg, but im lazy, and no one would fix it04:00
martin_Hola Cual es la manera más sencilla de actualizar kde3 a kde4, vale la pena?04:02
Jucato!es04:02
|dthacker|!es | martin_04:02
ubot5Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.04:02
ubot5martin_: please see above04:02
martin_thanks a lot, pals04:03
martin_Hola Cual es la manera más sencilla de actualizar kde3 a kde4, vale la pena?04:04
Jucatostill wrong channel martin_04:04
geniiI wonder if his remark was sarcasm04:04
* Jucato gives the benefit of the doubt unless proven otherwise04:06
Falol04:06
geniiJucato: Thats usually the best policy04:07
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mrmsudawgsping04:20
purpleposeidon*pang*04:21
kalindaHello - I'm wondering, since a friend of mine blew away his xorg.conf and couldn't get it back, is Bulletproof X actually included in Kubuntu Hardy? It wasn't on the "new features" page for the finaly release....04:23
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Odd-rationalekalinda: wnat me to pastebin a xorg file with vesa as driver?04:27
rickeyis there a kubuntu offtopic chat04:27
Odd-rationalerickey: yes. #kubuntu-offtopic04:28
kalindaOdd-rationale: No, that's ok, he already dealt with it. I just wanted to know if bulletproof X actually came with Kubuntu Hardy04:29
brian_so what exactly is this?04:33
geniiI guess he really didn't care enough about it to hang around for an answer04:38
DarkShinigami!c++04:39
ubot5Factoid c++ not found04:39
DarkShinigamiWhere can I get help with C++?04:39
DarkShinigami!c04:39
ubot5Factoid c not found04:39
JucatoDarkShinigami: what kind of help?04:40
Jucatogeneral C++ help?04:40
DarkShinigamiJucato: Hey. Been a while. Yes, general help.04:40
Jucato##c++04:40
DarkShinigamiThanks Jucato04:41
mrmonkeymancan anyone help me mount hard drives using the terminal, i get a message saying denied ntfs denied04:43
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: what have you tried?04:49
dsmith_y04:50
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mrmonkeymanmount04:51
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: are you trying to mount an external or internal hdd?04:52
mrmonkeymaninternal04:52
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: do you knoe the device name?04:52
Odd-rationaleknow04:52
mrmonkeymansudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/test04:52
mrmonkeymanthat is what i tried04:52
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: does /media/test exist?04:53
mrmonkeymanand i got04:53
mrmonkeymanFailed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Operation not supported04:53
mrmonkeymanMount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use. Choose one action:04:53
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: ah, windows on it?04:53
mrmonkeymanno04:53
mrmonkeymani made it04:53
mrmonkeymanwith sudo mkdir04:54
mrmonkeymanbut i am now noticing that i cannot write to it04:54
mrmonkeymanis that my problem04:54
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: no I meant windows on the ntfs partition.04:54
Odd-rationale?04:54
mrmonkeymanohhh, no windows just data but is ntfs from windows04:54
mrmonkeymani want to mount it take data out then convert it to ext304:55
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: ok. can you force mount it?04:55
cahuezyes, you can..04:55
mrmonkeymanwill that in any way jeopordize my data?04:55
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: unlikely04:55
mrmonkeymani have no backup of it and its 250 gb04:55
Ahmuckmrmonkeyman: you need a backup04:56
FaceOfBoeCan anyone tell me how to get the rotating cube going?04:56
o0Chris0orotating cube?04:56
cahuezhey mrmonkey, just mount it and force if just for storage..04:56
Ahmuckpick up a new drive, sata 300g seagate, and format for fat32 and backup first04:56
o0Chris0oo.004:56
mrmonkeymanawsome it worked04:56
mrmonkeymanok04:56
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: cool04:56
ubuntuAnyone else noticed that 8.04 is more than a bit buggy?04:57
mrmonkeymannow i have another hard drive and that one is sata04:57
Odd-rationaleubuntu: nope04:57
mrmonkeymando i need to do anything different04:57
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: do you have compiz?04:57
FaceOfBoejust finished getting it04:57
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: different formatting, you mean?04:57
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: did you install compizconfig-settings-manager?04:58
mrmonkeymani mean do i do the same command or do anything different04:58
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: to mount?04:58
mrmonkeymanexactly04:58
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: should be the same. might want to unmount the other if you want to use the same mount point. or create a new one04:58
FaceOfBoeshould I go with advanced or simple?04:58
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: custom04:59
mrmonkeymanok, what is best way to unmount just sudo umount /media/test04:59
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: install compizconfig-settings-manager first, though04:59
Odd-rationalemrmonkeyman: yes04:59
Ahmuckyes, why is that.  did kde or kubuntu decide not to provied a unified interface for compiz04:59
o0Chris0owhat is the rotating cube thing?04:59
Odd-rationaleAhmuck: nope.05:00
Ahmuckbleh05:00
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: to have your virtual workspaces in like a cube.05:00
mrmonkeymanok, now say i want to add this to fstab05:00
o0Chris0oI see05:00
o0Chris0oI had that in gentoo before05:00
mrmonkeyman mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /media/test -o force05:00
o0Chris0ohow do I get that Odd-rationale? I don't have compiz05:01
FaceOfBoestill not working  :(05:01
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: what version of ubuntu you got?05:01
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: did you install ccsm?05:01
o0Chris0o8.0405:01
FaceOfBoeya05:01
ubuntuheh, compiz messed with my media player, kept getting nasty looking snow instead of my movies.05:01
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waldschattenThere, now I have my name05:02
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: what graphics card you got? is it relatively new?05:02
ubunturosThis OpenWeek interest me a lot!05:02
ubunturosinterests*05:02
o0Chris0oyes it is05:02
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: go to kmenu --> settings --> advance settings manager.05:02
FaceOfBoekk05:03
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: go to kmenu --> system --> desktop effects and then click on install compiz05:03
waldschattenWell, in the one day I had 8.04 installed my desktop links stopped working, mono stopped working, wine apps started crashing.05:04
FaceOfBoeit's already installed05:04
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: have it open?05:04
waldschattenMaybe it was the dist upgrade, if I'd done it fresh from a CD it might have worked better?05:04
FaceOfBoeit's open05:04
Odd-rationalego to general options --> desktop size05:05
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: ^05:05
o0Chris0ois there kde extras you can install?05:05
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: and set the hor=4 ver=1 and #of desktop=105:05
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: are you running kde3 or 4?05:06
o0Chris0okde305:06
o0Chris0owent back, downgraded05:06
FaceOfBoeI'm not seeing general options anywhere05:06
o0Chris0o4 is def not ready05:06
o0Chris0olol05:06
zPliskinthats exactly what i wanted to know05:06
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: it should be at the very top. the fisrt option05:07
zPliskini am on kde4... i dont understand a thing05:07
o0Chris0oits not as configureable as kde305:07
o0Chris0oI am going to wait till 4.105:07
zPliskinbeside of the whole plasma thing, whats the difference ?05:07
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: found it?05:07
FaceOfBoenot there...dunno wotz wrong05:07
o0Chris0othe layout, looking more like windows05:08
Makuseruhow can i convert a ".m4a" to a ".mp3"?05:08
zPliskini think kde3 is more like windows05:08
FaceOfBoekk got it05:09
o0Chris0omore or less, they both are like windows :)05:09
o0Chris0oand gnome is like mac05:09
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: set hor=4 ver=1 and #=1 ?05:09
zPliskini am looking for a good distro for my working laptop05:09
zPliskini was waiting for kubuntu 8.04 with kde405:10
FaceOfBoek05:10
zPliskinand now i am all lost with those widgets everywhere and stuff05:10
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: ok. now enable the Desktop Cube and rotate Cube plugins. (check the check bax05:10
Odd-rationalebox05:10
zPliskini had 7.10 with kde3 and it took me like 1000 years to make wireless working05:11
zPliskinand with this remix 4 one, it worked on first try.05:11
Odd-rationaleYou can play with the other settings later, but for now, also enable the Cube Cap plugin and the Wobbly Window plugin for kicks.05:11
zPliskinactually it roughly works well. but its full of little annoying stuff all around05:12
o0Chris0oyeah05:12
zPliskinlike the default menu doesnt have the new software i saved05:12
ubuntuIs an intel Core 2 Duo 64 bit?05:12
zPliskinyes05:12
FaceOfBoearrrgh...still not working05:13
zPliskinby the way, whats the difference between 64 and 32 bits with latest kubuntu ?05:13
ubuntuArgh, downloaded the x86 disc.05:13
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: did you select Custom on the desktop effects settings?05:13
zPliskinubuntu > still works anyways05:14
ubuntuYup, what's the difference anyways, aside from the extra ram you can install?05:14
FaceOfBoeOdd-rationale: Ya05:14
dwidmann I can't seem to get ServiceMenus working in Konqueror (or Dolphin either for that matter), what's up with things?05:14
zPliskinno idea. thats why i ask -_-05:15
zPliskinby the way, is there a way to go from kde4 to kde3 without reinstalling everything ?05:15
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: if you adjusted the settings in ccsm, and chose advance ot simple by mistake it will overwrite your settings and you will have to do it again05:15
dwidmannzPliskin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:15
ubuntuHeh, missed you asking the same thing pliskin05:15
zPliskindwid, thats all ?05:16
dwidmannzPliskin: piece of cake huh?05:16
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: so make sure the settings are correct, then go to desktop effects and select Custom. then select apply05:16
zPliskinis kde4 still on my HD then ?05:16
Odd-rationalezPliskin: yes it would05:17
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Odd-rationalezPliskin: you can have both. just choose your session in the kdm sessions menu05:17
zPliskinreally?05:17
Odd-rationaleyep05:17
zPliskinwhere is that kdm session menu?05:18
macosxpPlease help! I'm trying Kubuntu with KDE 4 (installed as a file in windows using the wubi installer) but I can't seem to change settings like my tcp/ip or connect online or change desktop settings like graphics acceleration for desktop compiz05:18
FaceOfBoeOdd-rationale:  YaY  :)05:18
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: kool.05:18
o0Chris0oso how do I get rotating cube :) lol05:19
o0Chris0owhats the file name for it? I can search fo rit05:19
Makuserudoes anyone know why amarok cant change the metadata on .m4a files?05:19
FaceOfBoemeanwhile now I gotz this Adept Notifier window that won't go away05:19
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: did you already go to kmenu --> system --> desktop effects and select install ?05:19
macosxpcan anyone help me?05:19
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: I get that too...05:19
Odd-rationalemacosxp: try in #kubuntu-kde405:20
macosxpokay thanks, bye05:20
dthackermacosxp: sorry, havent used wubi05:20
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale:  no let me do that, thought that was for FaceofBoe05:20
zPliskinyo whats wrong with ubuntu servers, i download at 13KBS :(05:20
Odd-rationale!slow | zPliskin05:21
ubot5zPliskin: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of !Feisty. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.05:21
Deepthought!kde405:21
ubot5KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde405:21
Odd-rationaleFeisty???05:21
FaceOfBoeneXt Q: how do I get Kaffeine to play my DvD's?05:21
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: ok05:21
Deepthoughttest05:21
dwidmann!css FaceOfBoe05:21
o0Chris0oyah what is fiesty?05:21
ubot5Factoid css faceofboe not found05:21
dwidmann!css | FaceOfBoe05:21
ubot5FaceOfBoe: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:21
o0Chris0o!fiesty05:21
ubot5It is spelt "FEIsty" :)05:21
o0Chris0ooops05:21
o0Chris0o!feisty05:22
ubot5Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php05:22
dwidmannlol05:22
maduserwtf?05:22
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: do "sudo aptitude install libdvdread3 && sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh"05:22
o0Chris0ohmm05:22
Makuseru!libmp405:22
ubot5Factoid libmp4 not found05:22
o0Chris0oI'm lost05:22
maduser!hardy05:22
ubot5hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu05:22
maduserah they need to update the bot05:22
Odd-rationaleubot5 is out of date....05:22
zPliskinquick question, i use winamp on windows. whats the equivalent on linux ? amarok ?05:22
ubot5Odd-rationale: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:22
o0Chris0oupdate the bot!05:22
o0Chris0o:-p05:22
dthackerMakuseru: why don't you ask #amarok?05:22
Odd-rationalelol05:22
ubunturosheh05:22
dwidmannOdd-rationale: doesn't that install an older version of libdvdcss2 though? (ie: 1.2.5 instead of 1.2.9)05:22
Makuserudthacker: because everyone is dead in there05:23
dwidmannMakuseru: I take no responsibility for their deaths05:23
Makuseruha05:23
Odd-rationaledwidmann: dunno. I think that is the reccomended method. the wiki team was discussing whether or not they should advise adding 3rd party repos...05:23
dthackerMakuseru: they're not dead, they're just hibernating05:24
zPliskinwinter was heavy05:24
Makuseruhibernating for life05:24
dwidmannOdd-rationale: well, last time I checked, that was the case05:24
zPliskinya back at 150KBS !05:24
dthackerzPliskin: I like amarok for playing music, there are other players available too05:24
Makuserudoes anyone know how to edit .m4a metadata?05:25
Odd-rationaledwidmann: which was? adding medibuntu?05:25
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale: oh yeah, the desktop effects are already installed05:25
o0Chris0oI mean compiz engine05:25
dwidmannOdd-rationale: no, the script from libdvdread installing an older version ... of course, I haven't tried it in a while05:25
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: ok. now install compizconfig-settings-manager05:25
o0Chris0ok05:26
flankI love my kubuntu 8.04 but it freezes alot05:26
FaceOfBoeOdd-rationale: I got this "Install debhelper and fakeroot, then run this script again"05:26
TeslaTonyI've been getting randomly logged out of my system. Anyone know what might be going on?05:27
Deepthought I installed kde4 on my ubuntu/kubuntu rig (hardy), and now the whole graphic login is gone, there's p[roblems with x-auth and so changing sessions is impossible, only a mamaed gnome.   Worse, becuese of the x-auth I can' t start synaptic to fix broken packages or reinstall kde-desktop gnome-desktop.   anyone had that problem ?  KDE4 messing up the whole sys ?05:27
keeperHi, I'm having some problems getting my keyboard to work, I can use it at the login screen, but as soon as I log in it stops responding05:28
dwidmannOdd-rationale: also, with any arch other than i386 you have to have all the tools installed for building packages - and it isn't even kind enough to install them for you05:28
keeperAlso the on screen keyboard doesn't work05:28
flankeveryone has problems05:28
dwidmannOdd-rationale: given that tidbit, I certainly can't recommend the script05:28
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale: installed05:29
dwidmannOdd-rationale: and here's where it has the version set for the script --- uversion=1.2.5 --- so it looks like I was right05:29
o0Chris0owb Odd-rationale05:30
Odd-rationalesorry i got disconneted...05:30
Odd-rationalethanks!05:30
o0Chris0o:)05:30
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: does dvd plays for you?05:30
dwidmannOdd-rationale: did you get any of what I said in the last three minutes or so?05:31
o0Chris0oI got compizconfig-settings-manager installed05:31
Odd-rationaledwidmann: what was it?05:31
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: ok then scroll up and read what i wrote to FaceOfBoe ;)05:32
o0Chris0o:)05:32
dwidmanndd-rationale: also, with any arch other than i386 you have to have all the tools installed for building packages - and it isn't even kind enough to install them for you ------- Odd-rationale: given that tidbit, I certainly can't recommend the script ------ Odd-rationale: and here's where it has the version set for the script --- uversion=1.2.5 --- so it looks like I was right05:32
keeperCould it be that my keyboard has something strange in xorg.conf ?05:33
Odd-rationaledwidmann: the scripts just downloads a .deb and installs it. correct?05:33
dwidmannOdd-rationale: only for i386, otherwise it has to download the source and build it05:33
Odd-rationalesorry, I thought you meant arch as in arch linux...05:34
cube_hey very new to kde what do i use as a synaptic equivelant?05:34
dwidmannOdd-rationale: just look at the script, it's pretty short and self explanitory05:34
dwidmanncube_: adept05:34
keeperI'm really not sure how it could be working at login screen, but not after logging in ( even numlock won't change its status)05:34
Odd-rationaledwidmann: i see. does medibuntu have other architectures then?05:35
K4k-laptopok, so I just updated my kubuntu 8.04 install to kde4, but I seem to have lost my little widget to control my volume...how do I get it back?05:35
dwidmannOdd-rationale: yes, and it's also a more recent version of it05:35
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I think medibuntu does i386, amd64, and ppc05:36
Odd-rationaledwidmann: ok. then. seems like some should update the script to have it download from mdeibuntu and for your architecure.05:37
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I agree05:37
keeperI might try startx from recovery mode, any other ideas ?05:37
Odd-rationaledwidmann: if using i368 it seems ok. otherwise, i don't really like what it does....05:38
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I could do it easily enough, dunno how to get the changes in though05:38
Odd-rationaledwidmann: file a bug.05:38
dwidmannOdd-rationale: I suppose so, I'll just attach the modified script to the bug report and see how things go05:38
K4k-laptopanyone know what the volume applet for kde4 is? or if there is a way to use the one from kde3.5 on 4?05:40
Odd-rationaleK4k-laptop: kmix?05:40
K4k-laptopyea, thats it, thank you05:40
K4k-laptopI couldn't remember what it was called05:40
K4k-laptopwhere do I put that to make it autostart when I login?05:41
K4k-laptopis there a special kde startup file?05:41
Odd-rationale!autostart | K4k-laptop05:41
ubot5K4k-laptop: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:41
cube_what do i type in terminal to list all my hardware like cpu,memory,hd05:42
FaceOfBoe<--Still fighting to get a DVD to play05:42
K4k-laptopcube_, it's lspci for anything but mem and proc I think05:42
K4k-laptopfor mem it's "free"05:42
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: what happned?05:42
K4k-laptopfor disk space it's "df -h"05:42
FaceOfBoeOdd-rationale: I got this "Install debhelper and fakeroot, then run this script again"05:42
K4k-laptopand proc, you have to cat the /proc file, but I don't remember where it is05:42
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: ok. forget that05:43
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: add the medibuntu repo and install libdvdcss2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu05:43
FaceOfBoeI wish I could remember how I did it last time  *argh*05:43
cube_there was this one command i could enter that would list out specificly like what it looks like here http://myspace.com/cubesis05:43
cube_y05:44
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o0Chris0oalright, I installed ccsm05:45
o0Chris0owhere do I go for the general options --> desktop size05:46
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale:05:46
keepercube_: dmidecode -q | less05:46
cube_wow adept seems faster then synaptic05:46
Daisuke_Laptopwhy would you link to a myspace page?  do you hate us that much? :)05:46
cube_i just didn't feel like pastebin05:46
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: in kmenu --> settings --> advance desktop settings05:46
cube_do you know how i can output that05:46
o0Chris0oahh05:46
o0Chris0ook05:46
Odd-rationalecube_: use pastebinit!05:47
keeperI think I'll try startx from recovery mode, brb05:50
azmaawhile upgrading to hardy heron I need to download many softwares. upgrader downloads them but it's slow. how can i have list of softwares it is downloading so I'll be able to download it somewhere else?05:50
cube_sorry guys here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8654/05:50
FaceOfBoethis DVD thing is just not working 4 me.  :(05:50
cube_after setting it to not use swap how do i get rid of the swap space being used to free space?05:51
Makuseruhow can i change the tags on a m4a file? i got the libmp4v2 but i still cant change them. what else do i need to do?05:51
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale: not working for me for some reason05:52
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: do you have a compiz capable graphics card?05:53
o0Chris0oyes it has worked with it before05:53
cube_what command would display this output? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8654/05:53
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: even with medibuntu? were you able to install libdvdcss2?05:53
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: you enabled the cube plugin etc?05:54
FaceOfBoesays it's installed in the manager. ..but still can't play DVD05:54
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale: yes in ccsm under desktop05:55
cube_is there a kde equivelent to gimp or do you just use gimp?05:55
Odd-rationalecube_: krita05:55
zPliskini just finished downloading kde3. how do i switch from kde4 to 3 ?05:56
Odd-rationalezPliskin: log out and choose kde3 from the kdm sessions menu.05:56
zPliskinaight05:56
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: so after you choose custom in desktop effects and select apply, what happens?05:57
o0Chris0ojust that, clicked apply and nothing happens :(05:57
cube_where do i adjust screen res06:00
Odd-rationalecube_: system settings --> monitor and display06:00
FaceOfBoe**YaY** DVD is playin06:01
Odd-rationaleFaceOfBoe: good!06:01
Odd-rationaleone down.06:01
Odd-rationalelet me try to get o0Chris0o problem, then i'll go to sleep :)06:01
o0Chris0o:)06:02
FaceOfBoe:)06:02
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: what graphics card you gat?06:02
Odd-rationalegot?06:02
o0Chris0oumm06:03
dwidmannOdd-rationale: what do you think of this? http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d5f149f9206:03
o0Chris0oI kidna forgot06:03
cube_it worked thanks06:03
cube_what is the name of the kde version of compiz-settings manager06:04
o0Chris0odang06:04
Odd-rationaledwidmann: looks good to me. but again. I'm just an amateur at bash.06:04
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: do lspci | grep VGA06:05
FaceOfBoeCheers Oddski...yer my hero  :)06:05
dwidmannOdd-rationale: so am I .... I don't know what some of that is doing06:05
dwidmannor do I, I don't remember06:05
Odd-rationalecube_: compizcongif-settings-manager06:05
Odd-rationaleerr06:05
Odd-rationalecompizconfig-settings-manager06:05
o0Chris0onVidia GeForce 8600 GT06:05
Odd-rationalein other words, the same ;) <-- cube_06:06
dwidmanno0Chris0o: hey, same card as me :)06:06
o0Chris0o:)06:06
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: ok. do alt+f2 and type "compiz --replace" with out the quotes and do enter06:06
o0Chris0ocould not run specified command06:07
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: double check you spelling...06:08
o0Chris0otyped exactly how you typed it :) without the "06:08
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: try in terminal "sudo aptitude install compiz-kde"06:10
Makuseruhow can i change the tags on a m4a file? i got the libmp4v2 but i still cant change them. what else do i need to do?06:10
o0Chris0ok06:11
cube_does kopete do myspace and gtalk?06:11
o0Chris0onothing was installed, I must already have it06:11
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: try running "compiz --replace" in terminal and see if there is any errors06:12
o0Chris0ocommand not found06:14
Odd-rationale:?06:14
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: try "which compiz" in terminal06:14
o0Chris0ois there a space beteween compiz--replace?06:15
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: yes....06:15
o0Chris0oI tried that06:15
o0Chris0oand..06:15
cube_what would i use for ftp06:15
o0Chris0oI got "aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/kwin06:16
Odd-rationalecube_: konqueror, i guess06:16
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: hmm. seems like compiz is crashing...06:16
o0Chris0oxgl not present06:16
o0Chris0oand says06:16
o0Chris0ono whitelisted driver found06:16
cube_looks like gftp works fine on kde..man i don't know why i stayed with gnome for so long06:17
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: did you enable the nvidia restricted drivers from the restricted drivers manager?06:17
o0Chris0oyeah I did06:17
o0Chris0olet me go back and dbl check to make sure06:17
o0Chris0oyup, enabled06:18
cube_where is documentation for kubuntu06:18
Odd-rationalehttpwiki.kubuntu.org06:19
o0Chris0orestricted drivers manager or hardware drivers manager?06:19
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: the latter06:19
o0Chris0ook06:19
Odd-rationalecube_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu06:19
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: pastebin you xorg-conf file for me06:20
o0Chris0ok06:20
Odd-rationalexorg.conf06:20
o0Chris0ohow do I bring that up?06:21
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: here's the easy way.06:21
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: install pastebinit: sudo aptitude install pastebinit06:21
o0Chris0oeasy way is always the best way lol..for me anyways06:22
o0Chris0odone06:22
o0Chris0oalright, installed it..its not listed to open it lol06:24
Odd-rationalesorry about that...06:24
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: where were we?06:24
o0Chris0opastebinit is installe06:25
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: ok then do "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit"06:25
Odd-rationalethen give me the linkit gives you.06:25
o0Chris0oahh nice06:25
Odd-rationalelink?06:26
o0Chris0oweird06:26
Odd-rationalewhat?06:26
o0Chris0osays no such file or directory06:26
o0Chris0oI am typing cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf | pastebinit06:27
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: captital X06:27
o0Chris0osorry, its late :(06:27
Odd-rationalehere too :)06:27
o0Chris0ohttp://pastebin.com/f1a97964406:28
o0Chris0oI like this pastebinit, thanks for mentioning it06:28
o0Chris0odo I always use cat at the beginning? and | pastebinit at the end?06:28
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: well | is a pipe. you can pipe any output to pastebinit06:29
o0Chris0oalright06:30
Odd-rationaletry for example with out the | pastebinit06:30
o0Chris0oahh I see06:30
Odd-rationaleI don;t know why it is now working... your xorg file is loading the glx module...06:30
o0Chris0oI dunno I must of done something wrong :(06:31
o0Chris0oshould I log off and log back on to see if it worked?06:31
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: so you could essetiall do even somthing like apt-get install smoething | pastebinit and it will give the while apt output06:31
o0Chris0oahh I see06:31
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: try running glxgears in terminal06:32
o0Chris0orunning06:33
Odd-rationalehmm06:33
o0Chris0ored blue and green gears06:33
o0Chris0olol06:33
cube_what is a cool looking app launcher? or that mac looking one for kde?06:33
Odd-rationalecube_: kooldock06:33
cube_thankyou06:34
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: yeah try loggin out and we'll try again...06:34
o0Chris0ook brb06:34
cube_i launched cool dock but don't see it anywhere06:36
Odd-rationalecube_: move you mouse to the bottom edge06:36
Odd-rationalenear the middle06:36
cube_its not working?06:36
macosxpUsing KDE 4, why can't I double-click to open or right-click to copy files on the desktop... since when is the desktop a dull icon store?06:37
Odd-rationalecube_: do alt+f2 and type in "kooldock"06:38
Odd-rationalethen try again06:38
macosxpand where are the compiz options?06:38
cube_where do i kill a process06:38
macosxpand how to I change my tcp/ip settings in a GUI?06:39
Odd-rationalemacosxp: try in #kubuntu-kde406:39
Odd-rationalecube_: do ctrl+esc to see list of runnning processes and to kill any if neeeded06:40
cube_ok what am i missing about this kooldock its simply not working06:41
cube_brb06:42
o0Chris0osorry took so long06:44
o0Chris0owouldn't come back from being logged off06:44
o0Chris0ohad to resstart06:44
o0Chris0obut I am back06:44
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: ok. np06:44
o0Chris0oand06:45
o0Chris0oit works :)06:45
o0Chris0owant to know what the problem was06:45
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: kool! now I can sleep06:45
o0Chris0oyou can hit me!06:45
o0Chris0olol06:45
kishorehi all! i have a problem with running eagle in a kde4 session06:45
cube_ok i got cooldock to work but it keeps crashing06:45
Odd-rationale!kde4 | kishore06:45
ubot5kishore: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde406:45
o0Chris0oI forgot to restart the pc for the restricted driver to be enabled06:45
o0Chris0o:(06:45
o0Chris0olol06:45
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: -_-06:46
kishoreit crashes often but this does not happen with kde306:46
o0Chris0oI thought I already did..06:46
cube_i am on 3.5 something for kde06:46
cube_and its crashing constant06:46
Odd-rationalecube_: you mean kooldock?06:46
Odd-rationalekishore: try asking in #kubuntu-kde406:46
o0Chris0oOdd-rationale: thanks! appreciate your time06:46
Odd-rationaleo0Chris0o: np06:46
kishoreOdd-rationale:06:46
lhi, where can I find a German language group?06:46
kishoreOdd-rationale: thanks ill go there06:47
cube_yes it cause signall 11 egv , but why kde4 i am on 3.5?06:47
Odd-rationale!de06:47
ubot5Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:47
lthx06:47
Odd-rationalecube_: I was talking to kishore06:47
cube_is there a way for me to make crash handler not report that crash06:47
cube_cause it stays working but keeps reporting it06:47
caveman26whats a good benchmarking program to use for figuring out the megaflops of a processor in linux?06:49
cube_how would i add things to kooldock?06:49
cube_ok sorry nevermind06:49
cube_how would i make crash handler stop reporting the bug?06:51
Agent_bobhung program "[dvd-slideshow] waiting for mpeg2enc to finish..."   but mpeg2enc is not using any cpu time, so it's not doing anything.   thoughts ?07:06
theveryendHEYY07:08
Agent_bob23335 pts/0    Sl+   31:21 mpeg2enc -v 0 -q 4 -4 2 -2 1 -a 2 -M 3 -f 8 -o /usr/slideshow   <<< is that syntax even correct ?07:08
theveryendANYONE?07:09
cube_i am on kubuntu amd64 8.04 and kooldock keeps sending signal 11 sigsevg as a crash is there anything i can do?07:09
Jucato!caps | theveryend07:09
ubot5theveryend: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:09
Agent_bobtheveryend what happened? did we join an empty channel ?07:09
Jucato!anyone | theveryend07:10
ubot5theveryend: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:10
theveryendsorry07:10
theveryendthis is my first time here07:10
cube_mine 207:10
theveryendima a bit confused07:11
cube_is there anyway i can stop crash handler from report the crash as kooldock stays open and working07:11
theveryendoh yeah. i got that one too07:12
theveryendit always happens07:12
cube_u know how to fix it?07:12
theveryend no i dont know07:13
theveryendanyone know?07:13
Agent_bobna'me07:13
Odd-rationalecube_: try killing kooldock and try alt+f2 and type "kooldock --nocrashhandler"07:14
cube_u know how i can setup that way for boot?07:14
Odd-rationalecube_: do you have it set for kde to automatically save session?07:15
cube_i don't think i do07:15
theveryendits complicated07:15
cube_lol it worked but then now it doesn't stay open when it crashes07:15
theveryendlol07:16
Odd-rationalecube_: go to system settings --> advance --> session manager. and select on login --> restore previous session07:16
Odd-rationalecube_: you cant have you cake and eat it too ;)07:16
Jucato!autostart07:16
ubot5To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.07:16
Jucatooh, that factoid isn't updated... http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html07:17
Odd-rationalegood night all!07:18
cube_thanks for all the responses odd-rationale07:19
Odd-rationalecube_: np07:19
theveryenddo u know how to use torrent?07:20
theveryendmine doesnt work07:20
theveryendanyone?07:21
maduserktorrent?07:21
zPliskinhow do you install java on firefox ?07:21
theveryendyes. ktorrent07:21
JucatozPliskin: unless you're on 64bit, just install sun-java6-plugin07:22
zPliskini just did the damn procedure and it doesn't work. firefox doesnt detect the plugin07:22
zPliskinhow i do that ?07:22
Agent_bobmpeg2enc BUG!07:22
theveryendmy firefox always close unexpectedly07:22
JucatozPliskin: what procedure did you do?07:22
zPliskinthe procedure on the sun site : http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting07:23
Agent_bobhmm konsole   shift+arrow to switch tabs   but what is the gnome-terminal key ?07:27
theveryendoh07:30
JucatoCtrl+Page Up/Down07:30
JucatoAgent_bob: ^^^^07:31
Agent_bobah ty07:32
Agent_boband it doesn't cycle   ;/07:32
Jucato(it's GNOME.. what did you expect? :P)07:33
Jucatoj/k07:33
Agent_bob:)07:33
Agent_bobhung program "[dvd-slideshow] waiting for mpeg2enc to finish..."   but mpeg2enc is not using any cpu time, so it's not doing anything.   thoughts ?07:33
Agent_bobi know i can kill mpeg2enc    but the program will error out.   is there a better way to build a slideshow-dvd ?07:34
* Agent_bob wants to smack mpeg2enc's fingures with a hammer so it will stop "hanging" on...07:35
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d27d5be8407:36
Agent_bobi wouldn't wait more than two or three hours for that thing to do something.....07:37
nicolashie everyone07:39
Agent_bobhmmm could not start GNOME Web Browser  \n\n Startup failed because of the following error: \n unable to determine the address of the message bus.07:39
theveryendargh07:39
nicolasi'm having trouble with lirc in hardy, am i alone?07:40
theveryendits driving me crazy07:40
Agent_bobi think i have determined that i like posting error messages, better than trying to solve other peoples issues.        or maybe not.07:41
theveryendouch07:43
LynoureAgent_bob: :)07:43
nicolaslirc daemon won't load, only the userspace works :s07:44
Agent_bobLynoure here's another one.   :)     i just clicked the switch window managers.   (from blackbox to metacity)  heh all it acomplished is, now i have no menus bars buttons * !07:45
LynoureAgent_bob: Gnome web browser == epiphany?07:46
Agent_bobyeah i think.07:46
LynoureAgent_bob: but you are in kde, still? (just trying to figure out the situation)07:46
Agent_boboh but i just found that i can now   alt+tab   and get a task manager/switcher07:46
Agent_bobLynoure i haven't been in kde per'se in years.07:47
Agent_bobnor gnome...07:47
LynoureAgent_bob: ok, then I don't even try to help you.07:47
Agent_bob:)07:47
LynoureAgent_bob: too much work trying to guess what you have and what you don't :)07:47
Agent_bobyeah.   i fully understand that.        i have all the gnome and kde installed   but almost nothing running.07:48
Agent_bobLynoure but:  if you could spare a moment.07:48
Agent_bobhave you ever built any dvd slideshows ?07:49
LynoureAgent_bob: Actually, I don't even know what they would be as dvd tends to be moving video and slides unmoving07:50
Agent_bobhung program "[dvd-slideshow] waiting for mpeg2enc to finish..."   but mpeg2enc is not using any cpu time, so it's not doing anything.   thoughts ?07:50
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Agent_bobsorry.   i mean mpeg2enc seems to be all that is blocking my progress at this time.07:51
LynoureAgent_bob: How did you determine it is not doing anything? strace?07:51
* Lynoure loves strace07:51
Agent_bobtop07:51
Agent_bobit doesn't even show up on "top"   and sp says it's been sleeping for 30 minutes07:52
Agent_bobs/sp/ps/07:52
LynoureAgent_bob: try   strace -f -p pid-of-your process   for fun anyway07:52
LynoureAgent_bob: it's probably waiting for something that is not there07:53
Agent_bobstrace -f -p `pidof mpeg2enc`  ?07:53
Lynoureyes07:53
Agent_bobProcess 23363 attached with 5 threads - interrupt to quit07:53
Agent_bob <unfinished ...>07:53
Agent_bob <unfinished ...>07:53
LynoureAgent_bob: hmm, not very informative.07:54
Agent_bobthat's all it said.07:54
* Agent_bob shrugs07:54
LynoureIf that always happens, I'd restart and strace it into a file from earlier on07:55
Lynoureor go digging in /proc (but that's much less fun)07:55
* Agent_bob wishes there was a slightly more polished app even a cli app.07:56
Agent_bobfor building dvd's07:56
Agent_bobif i do that i need to test run it on a small file.  not this 2 hour project.07:57
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LynoureAgent_bob: pity if you'll lose 2h of work :/07:58
Agent_bobi guess i just as well kill the thing.    loose all that data...07:58
Agent_bobyeah07:58
Agent_bobwell  easy go.07:59
Agent_bobreguardless how it came.07:59
LynoureAgent_bob: Manslide might be a "slightly more polished app", never tried it07:59
Agent_bobnow that i have metacity running i think i'll start kicker so i'll have a menu.08:00
Agent_bobi'll look at it.08:00
Agent_bobhmmm maybe if i just nuke xorg it will leave the "completely finished" but not released dvd (the progress is at 100% and the only message is the "waiting for mpeg2enc to finish") and when i start the app it will see it's temp file and finish it ???08:04
Agent_boboh well,  wish me good noogies!08:05
oupaHi, I am having a problem sharing a printer attached to a Kubuntu system with an Ubuntu system. both 8.04. It used to 'just work' now it "just doesn't". Can anybody help me configure it? Please08:09
cicero123hello.iam trying to use the kde4 ubgrade disk. the insturtions read to run "kdesu "/cdrom/cdromupgrade" in the command line, but i get the error, "command not found.08:10
Lynourecicero123: is your cd mounted?08:12
cicero123Lynoure:  yes.08:13
vltHello. Which of the install CDs/DVDs allows shrinking an existing NTFS partition before installing Kubuntu?08:14
cicero123Lynoure:  it is mounted as /media/cdrom008:15
Lynourecicero123: try   kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"08:15
cicero123Lynoure:  k08:16
Lynourecicero123: well, that explain it :)  /media/cdrom0  instead of plain /cdrom  for you then08:16
cicero123Lynoure:  sorry. i know enough to be dangerous but not enough to make money. :(08:17
monkeybritchesvlt: There's an option to resize partitions during installation08:17
monkeybritchesChoose 'manual' and resize at will08:17
vltmonkeybritches: On desktop AND alternate CD? I remember it coming only with one of the install CDs in earlier versions ...08:18
cicero123Lynoure: i am still getting command not found.08:19
monkeybritchesI don't know about alternate, but I have the other one and it's on it.08:19
Lynourecicero123: what does ls -la  /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade  show?  (I haven't upgraded that way ever myself, I always switch in the late alpha stage :) )08:20
Lynoure(or then upgrade over network later on)08:20
Lynourecicero123: is is the alternate cd you are using?08:21
MasterStonehi everyone08:21
cicero123Lynoure: no such file or directory. :( but in properties is gives the mount as /media/cdrom008:22
MasterStonei have a problem with my graphic installation after an upgrade to hardy08:22
cicero123i dont know. there are two exec files in it. a umenu.exe, and a wubi.exe08:22
Lynourecicero123: does not sound like the right cd, but I'm yet to check08:23
stdinthat would be the desktop cd08:24
stdin(there are no .exe's on the alternate cd)08:24
Agent_bobno such noogie !     oh swell08:24
cicero123Lynoure: if it is the wrong cd it would explain a lot. :/08:25
Lynourecicero123: checked, it's the wrong cd08:25
Agent_bobvidio dvd's are just data dvd's with some specially named/formated files on them aren't they?08:25
cicero123Lynoure: which one do i need?08:25
cicero123kde on 386.08:25
Lynourecicero123: the one called Alternate08:25
Agent_bob.vob's and such08:25
cicero123Lynoure:  k. thank you. i will dl it now.08:26
Lynourecicero123: good luck.08:26
cicero123Lynoure:  thanx. :)08:27
Agent_bobcicero123 how much ram ?08:27
Agent_bobor am i misreading that "<cicero123> kde on 386"08:28
walter_ecohi - - I'm having a screen size problem08:28
Agent_bobme too.  mines too small08:28
walter_ecocan't seem to go above 600 x 80008:28
ubuntu_let me take a stab and say you have nvidia drivers08:28
walter_ecoalso is there a way to see what version of kubuntu I'm running08:29
ubuntu_lsb_release -a08:29
Agent_boblsb_release -r08:29
stdinAgent_bob: yeah, .VOBs are mpeg 2 sequences, but it's the .IFO and .BUP files that tell the DVD player the information about it, like titles, chapters, audio channels etc08:29
walter_ecomatrox08:30
ubuntu_let me take a stab and say you have nvidia drivers?08:30
walter_ecocould be08:30
Agent_bobstdin umm yes.  that's what i'm saying,  it's other wise just a data dvd,  correct ?08:30
walter_ecois there a way to see what drivers I have08:30
walter_eco(please)08:30
ubuntu_what i mean is what card do you have08:31
stdinAgent_bob: yep, it's just files on a disk08:31
Agent_bobstdin not at all like the old audio cd format08:31
Agent_bobright...   k08:31
walter_ecoI have a matrox g450/500 video card08:31
walter_ecoit says08:31
stdinAgent_bob: yeah, single session, not like VCDS/AudioCDs08:31
walter_ecowhich I believe08:31
o0Chris0oI have a question for kde3 desktop effects....whats the effect that when you hoover over a window the title bar shows up then when you move your mouse to another window..it disappears? trying to get rid of that, I don't care for it :(08:32
* Agent_bob went to test08:32
walter_ecoit was working just fine at 1000x1200 then I switched to 600x800 now it wont let me switchback08:32
MasterStonehi everyone. i have a problem with my screen resolution too.08:33
MasterStoneafter the boot, the kde-login screen displays huge fonts and only a tiny part of the whole screen08:33
ubuntu_kdesu displayconfig and under hardware choose the right drivers and more importantly choose corect device and the aproppriate resolution, it will write new values in xorg and restart x08:33
MasterStonethe problem is that i cannot use any programs under kde because i cannot read a single thing08:34
ubuntu_at the login screen, the xorg will choose the highest resolution and use and then change to what you selected for kde,08:36
walter_ecoits set to the right card supposedly08:36
ubuntu_compared to ubuntu channel this place is calm, am testing out kubuntu08:36
walter_ecoit was working until i changed the setting08:36
ubuntu_chances are it will be, but is the monitor section correct walter_eco08:37
noaXesswhat to use on kubuntu to creating cd labesl.. also round cd labes to put on the cd itself?08:37
MasterStoneafter i have logged in, i cannot read a single thing, the mousepointer is about 3 cm large. the font is huge and only parts of the screen are visible at all08:38
MasterStonei have tried to change the xorg-parameters already with dpkg-reconfigure xorg-sxerver but that stops after setting keyboard and mouse setup08:39
MasterStonehow can i say kde (or the sxerver) to start in a different screen resolution?08:40
o0Chris0oMasterStone: was there a pop-up for hardware drivers manager to enable the video card?08:40
MasterStoneo0Chris0o: during dpkg-reconfigure? no08:40
o0Chris0ooic, I dunno. Thats what I did when I first installed kubuntu 8.0408:42
o0Chris0oI thought maybe it was similar to your problem08:42
MasterStonewell, i did not install it from scratch but upgraded from 7.1008:42
o0Chris0oI see08:43
o0Chris0ois there like a computer chip icon by your clock on the right that you can see?08:43
jaffarkelshacdid you fix the resolution problem (i switched to ubuntu)08:44
MasterStonethe screenresolution is so bad that i can see the clock only partly, i can see the icon for the enter-button and the little menu-like icon a little underneath08:45
o0Chris0ohmm08:46
jaffarkelshacMasterStone, what card do you have08:46
MasterStonejaffarkelshac: it is a ati x300 i believe08:47
jaffarkelshaci have nvidia, and can only really help with that, but you need to edit your xorg.conf08:47
MasterStonei have tried to change that but with dpkg-reconfigure it doesnt work because i only get to change the keyboard and mouse settings08:48
MasterStoneand with manually editing xorg.conf i can change the resolution but then my monitor says it cannot display the frequenzy although it should be with the given range08:49
jaffarkelshacdid you try envy-ng08:50
jaffarkelshaci have been searching online for x300 xorg08:50
jaffarkelshachttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13774208:50
o0Chris0oI have a question for kde3 desktop effects....whats the effect that when you hoover over a window the title bar shows up then when you move your mouse to another window..it disappears? trying to get rid of that, I don't care for it :(08:52
jaffarkelshacwhen you have minized it?08:53
jaffarkelshacis the when the window is minimized? o0Chris0o08:54
o0Chris0ono when it is maximized08:54
o0Chris0owhethe title bar is there when it is active08:54
o0Chris0owhen I move the mouse away from it...itit goes away08:54
jaffarkelshaci thought it was preview. but then i dont use kde08:54
o0Chris0oonly happends when I enable the effects, but trying to figure out which effect it is exactly to disable it lol08:55
jaffarkelshaci am sure it is window preview08:56
o0Chris0oalright lets see08:56
o0Chris0othats not under ccsm08:57
o0Chris0ofor an effect08:58
jaffarkelshacno idea then, you have to probably do it the hard way08:58
jaffarkelshac1 by 108:58
o0Chris0odunno08:58
o0Chris0oyeah08:58
o0Chris0ofigures08:58
o0Chris0olol08:58
jaffarkelshacnot many ppl use kubuntu, the channel is very quiet. i tried it out today08:59
o0Chris0othere is quite a bit of ppl that use it09:00
o0Chris0oits 4am est here09:00
o0Chris0oits usally more populated during the day09:01
jaffarkelshacits 9 am where i am09:01
o0Chris0oahh09:01
Jucatowhat a great logic!09:03
Jucato!night | jaffarkelshac09:03
ubot5jaffarkelshac: It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.09:03
o0Chris0oubot has answers for many questions :)09:04
o0Chris0olol09:04
jaffarkelshacwhat all kde users are in us?09:04
Fano09:04
Fai'm canadian09:04
o0Chris0o!day09:05
ubot5Factoid day not found09:05
Jucatono. but to presume that everyone is in the same timezone is equally wrong :)09:05
jaffarkelshacwhen did i presume that Jucato09:05
Jucato <jaffarkelshac> not many ppl use kubuntu, the channel is very quiet. i tried it out today09:05
Tom_Smith_oryginHi, I have a question - Where can I find a Kubuntu 8.04 DVD release with KDE4 (official there are only CDs)09:06
Jucatoanyway, just because the channel has been quiet when you were around doesn't mean that there are not many people using Kubuntu nor does it mean that it is always quiet09:06
JucatoTom_Smith_orygin: none. DVD only has KDE 3 by default, but KDE 4 packages installable I think09:07
* Jucato double checks09:07
Tom_Smith_oryginok, is KDE4 friendly install from package (some like 'apt-get install kde4') ?09:08
JucatoTom_Smith_orygin: yeah. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop09:09
Jucato#kubuntu-kde4 for more information09:09
Tom_Smith_oryginthanks man09:09
Tom_Smith_oryginsee you09:09
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ken_fallonSo is it usually this quiet here ?09:26
Jucatoat this time of day, sometimes09:27
Jucatoday or night09:27
SlimeyPeteit can get quite busy09:28
SlimeyPetebut never so much as #ubuntu09:29
Jucato(thank goodness!)09:29
ken_fallonSo was is bussier after the release ?09:29
Jucatodefinitely09:30
Agent_bobonly when i'm not here.09:33
Jucato(*especially* when you are here :P)09:34
Agent_bob:)09:34
* Agent_bob saws one leg off of Jucato's chair.09:35
kwijihi!09:41
kwijiI just tried to install kubuntu 8.04, but it doesnt show me a correct partition table09:42
kwijitheres only one hd shown, although i have 2 partitions, 2 ntfs and some free space for kubuntu09:42
ken_fallonHave you two hard disks then ?09:43
kwijino, 1 sata09:43
Agent_bobthen why shouldn't it "only one hd shown" ?09:43
ken_fallonDo you see the 2 partitions ?09:44
Agent_bobif you only have one hd then one hd is how many it should show09:44
kwijiähm, i mean it doesnt show the 2 partitions09:44
ken_fallonok what does it show ?09:44
kwijithe only possibility i have is to create a new partition table and delete everything09:45
kwijiit only shows my hd and no partitions, although i have 2 ntfs partitions09:45
ken_fallonDo the sizes match the hard disk ?09:45
kwijihm, as far as i remember it just didn't show the size09:46
Agent_bobyou still in the live cd ?09:46
kwijino09:47
kwijiwinxp09:47
Agent_bobk09:47
ken_fallonHave you encryption on the NTFS partations ?09:47
kwijino09:48
amerigo! games09:48
ubot5Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php09:48
kwijii just did the standard partition stuff with the winxp installation09:48
ken_fallonso you have a c and d drive09:49
kwijic and e are my partitions09:49
Agent_bobhow you skipped d ?09:50
Agent_bobnever mind.09:50
ken_fallonkwiji: I'm looking up something. Please hold . . .09:51
kwijithx09:51
Agent_bobwell leave her dress alone and help the poor guy09:51
Agent_bobgosh09:51
ken_fallonAgent_bob: lol09:52
Agent_bob:)09:52
o0Chris0ohow do I disable the effects that when I hover over a window it brings the title bar (with the minimize, maximize and exit buttons) up, but when I move the mouse away to a another window,the title  goes away and the active windows title bar shows up09:52
o0Chris0ohope that makes sense09:52
ken_fallonkwiji: Can you open up "Computer Management" and go to "Disk Management"09:53
kwijiwith the live cd in or in winxp?09:53
ken_fallonxp09:53
xstAfter upgrading from gutsy to hardy I use the "hardware manager" to install the "ATI accelerated graphics driver" but it writes "Not in use" next to it? I have rebooted and everything. What to do?erything09:54
ken_fallonkwiji: it's under start - control panel - administration tools09:55
kwijiyes, i think i got it09:55
kwijimy winxp is german, so i dont know how they translated it ;)09:55
ken_fallonok right click on disk 0 (if that's what it is) and select properties - hardware09:56
Agent_bob##windows and #kubuntu-de both exist.09:56
ken_fallonYou speak German ?09:57
kwijii'am german ;)09:57
Agent_bobxst i can't answer that. but i did read it.09:57
kwiji i went on properties09:58
ken_fallonon the "C:" volume right click and select properties then - harware09:59
tzdthe time in akregator isn't correct (shows +1-2 hours for some feeds), anyone knows what's wrong please?09:59
ken_fallonIt should list the disk type09:59
kwijiyes10:01
ken_fallonok can you tell me the model please10:01
kwijiWDC WD3200AAKS-00VYA010:02
Agent_bobwestern digital10:02
ken_fallonkwiji: thanks Eine Moment10:03
kwijijupp10:03
o0Chris0ohow do I disable the effects that when I hover over a window it brings the title bar (with the minimize, maximize and exit buttons) up, but when I move the mouse away to a another window,the title  goes away and the active windows title bar shows up10:03
tuanphamhi10:04
tuanphamdoes anyone use kubuntu beta 8  ?10:04
tuanphami have some questions about kopete in this version10:04
Agent_bobbeta 8 ?10:04
tuanphamyep10:05
Agent_bob?10:05
o0Chris0oits not beta10:05
tuanphamkubuntu 8.04 bete10:05
tuanphamyep10:05
tuanphami setting up before the realease10:05
Agent_bob8.4 released.  not beta now.10:05
tuanphami see10:05
tuanphambut i used an older one10:06
ken_fallonkwiji: I can't find anything that would suggest a problem. Can you boot into Kubuntu and rejoin from there ?10:06
tuanphamthe beta version10:06
Agent_bobsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:06
SlimeyPetetuanpham: if you've installed any updates within the last few days, you no longer have the beta version10:06
tuanphami minute10:06
tuanphama minute10:06
tuanphami think i updated to newest10:07
kwijiyep, i just read tah gparted comes with the live cd, i'll try that10:07
kwijitah = that10:07
tuanphambut hi have problem with kopete10:07
tuanphami tried to save kopete setting10:07
tuanphambut it does not take effection10:08
tuanphamfor exemple10:08
marc-andrehiho10:08
tuanphami saved it not allow to show buble when recive message10:08
tuanphambut it can't save10:08
tuanphamdo you know what i mean ?10:08
marc-andrei need a little help, i have activated my onboard graphic card, but i can't activate it in Gutsy10:08
tuanphami tried to reinstall it10:08
tuanphambut it is still the same10:09
Agent_bobtuanpham ummm own your home ?10:09
tuanpham?10:09
Agent_bobtuanpham    sudo chown $USER $HOME -R10:09
tuanphamwhat do you mean Agent_bob ?10:09
marc-andrehere is my lspci : http://pastebin.com/m10ef245a10:10
tuanphamok i tried10:10
tuanphamnow i will tried to save setting10:10
tuanphamthank10:10
Agent_bobnow see if you can save settings10:10
marc-andrei tried to add it manually into the xorg.conf, but nothing happend10:10
marc-andreand when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it tells me it can't find any graphic hardware10:11
Agent_bobso set it to vesa10:12
tuanpham:D10:12
tuanphamit still can't save10:12
tuanphami think this problem come form kopete10:12
marc-andreit is set to vesa, but the screen is still black10:13
tuanphamhow can i install othr version of kopote to test ?10:13
Agent_bobtuanpham hmmm ok.   we might be able to get a usable error message out of it by closing it and running it from a konsole10:13
tuanphamlet i try it10:13
Agent_bobtuanpham other version ?    get the .deb and right click it.10:14
tuanphamQEventDispatcherUNIX::unregisterTimer: invalid argument10:14
tuanphamQObject::connect: Connecting from COMPAT signal (KAction::activated())10:14
tuanphamkopete(9302) Kopete::IdentityManager::load: Created identity  "xjE5kmARd5"10:14
tuanphamthis message i got10:14
tuanphami don't know10:15
Agent_bobtry to save settings and see if it adds anything10:15
tuanphamit automaticaly added when i setting up kubuntu10:15
Agent_bobnon-com.10:15
a_c_1morning all10:16
kaminix!japanese10:16
ubot5日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい10:16
a_c_1!64bit10:16
Agent_bobtry to save settings and see if it adds anything to the messages in the konsole  ^10:16
ubot5AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.10:16
a_c_1anyone know how to get realplayer (specifically the BBC radio player) working in kubuntu64?10:17
tuanphamno message when i save config10:17
Agent_bobtuanpham and you still can't save ?10:17
tuanphamAgent_bob:  do you have any ideal ?10:17
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tuanphamsave it ok10:18
tuanphambut does effaction10:18
tuanphami hate the buble message10:18
tuanphami disable it10:18
tuanphambut it still shown when message come :D10:18
tuanphamgota go10:18
tuanphami used kubuntu 710:19
tuanphamit's fine10:19
Agent_bobhmmm ok.  no i can't think of anything else to try on it.10:19
Agent_bob!bug | tuanpham10:19
tuanphamcan i reinstall the older version ?10:19
ubot5tuanpham: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots10:19
tuanphamyes i think so10:19
Agent_bobtuanpham yes you can.10:19
tuanphamhow can i do ?10:19
tuanphami tried apt-get remove and install10:20
tuanphambut it still this version of kopete10:20
tuanphamit has so many problems10:20
tuanphamwebcam not work10:20
tuanphamuser icon does not show ..10:21
Agent_bobif you have the package cache   "/var/cache/apt/archives/kopete*.deb" you can install it from there.  if not you can download the specific version and install it10:21
rohana program i install myself - netbeans - has added a new entry to my kde menu. how can i know where is the .desktop file which has added that entry?10:21
tuanphamok let i check10:21
rohanthe entry is "Netbeans" in Menu -> Development10:21
tuanphamthank anyways :)10:21
Agent_bobapt-get install --force-downgrade kopete-10:21
Agent_bobapt-get install --force-downgrade kopete-<version>10:22
Agent_bobrohan   find ~/ /usr/ -iname *netbeans*.desktop10:23
kwijirb10:23
kwijii couldnt get irc running with the live cd10:24
rohanAgent_bob: thanks, i found it in /usr10:24
Agent_bobusr/share/something/ probably10:24
kwijibut anyway, i could access my 2 ntfs partitions with the live cd10:24
tuanphamit have no kopete here Agent_bob10:25
tuanphami will try install it again10:25
jo4___Sorry, but no response in Xubuntu channel or Ubuntu for that matter. My question is if Xubuntu uses gdm or xfwm ? :P10:25
rohanjo4___: gdm10:25
Agent_bob!packages | tuanpham check the webpage10:25
ubot5tuanpham check the webpage: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords or regex>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!10:25
jo4___rohan, ok, ty10:25
tuanphamthank10:27
Agent_bobtuanpham reinstalling the same bugged version is not likely to help.   file a bug report.   go to the web page packages.ubuntu.com and find a version that works.  download it and install it.10:27
Jucatogdm and xfwm are 2 different things :)10:27
Agent_bobjo4 left.  but xubuntu defaults to xdm + xfwm   iirc10:28
JucatoI though gdm + xfwm... oh well10:29
Agent_bobit may be.   i know i had xdm for a while and i thought it was installed by the xubuntu-desktop package...10:30
Jucatolet's see :)10:30
Agent_bobbut thinking something doesn't force it to be so.10:30
Agent_bobdoesn't seem to depend on xdm   or else i still have it installed,  checking that too10:32
Jucato:)10:32
Agent_bobnope not installed.10:32
tuanphamdid anyone use virtual box ose ?10:34
rohanhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/222567 ---> can someone please confirm this bug?10:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 222567 in apt "System hangs momentarily while using apt-get or aptitude" [Undecided,New]10:34
tuanphami got this10:35
tuanphamVirtualBox kernel driver not installed. The vboxdrv kernel module was either not loaded or /dev/vboxdrv was not created for some reason. Please install the virtualbox-ose-modules package for your kernel, e.g. virtualbox-ose-modules-generic..10:35
tuanphamVBox status code: -1908 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED).10:35
tuanphamResult Code:10:35
tuanpham0x8000400510:35
tuanphamComponent:10:35
tuanphamConsole10:35
tuanphamInterface:10:35
tuanphamIConsole {1dea5c4b-0753-4193-b909-22330f64ec45}10:35
tuanphamwhen i run virtual machine :(10:35
stdin!paste10:35
ubot5pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:35
Jucato!pastebin | tuanpham10:35
ubot5tuanpham: please see above10:35
* Agent_bob gives the three legged chair a push.10:36
* Jucato falls over10:36
Agent_bobwoops.10:37
tuanphamsorry10:37
snikkergtk-qt-engine don't work as root. can you help me?10:39
Agent_bobsnikker you probably wont get help with that in here,  they are anti-root nazis10:40
krypto__hi! someone can tell me where I can find global font settings?10:41
Jucatosnikker: what do you mean by "deosn't work as root"?10:41
krypto__so i.e. when I start adept which runs with root rights has the same fonts as in my user account?10:41
stdinprobably that root's kde settings don't say to use qt-curve at the GTK style10:41
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taghastien41HDD locked in the bios is there any solution10:42
stdinyou could just start systemsettings with kdesu and set the style there10:42
snikkerJucato: for example if i run synaptic (or another gtk app) with sudo or kdesu i don't have kde style. it work as normal user10:42
Agent_bobkrypto__ you could do kdesudo kcontrol    and set the fonts as root10:43
Jucatosnikker: see what stdin said10:43
snikkerJucato: i've run kcontrol as root, but don't work10:44
Agent_bobnever ever startx as root and setup the kde settings like normal users...   ^10:44
Tm_TAgent_bob: tsup tsup, you use word "nazi" way too lightly, son10:44
krypto__thx, I could have think of that by myself.... ;)10:44
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Agent_bobTm_T ?      look at some of the responces to questions about "root" in the logs and then say that  ;/10:45
snikkerJucato: same thing with systemsettings...10:45
Jucatoweird10:46
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snikkerJucato: yes... in gutsy it worked fine...10:46
tuanphamnow i get older version Agent_bob10:47
tuanphamthank10:47
Tm_TAgent_bob: you still fail, son ;)10:47
Agent_bobtuanpham welcome.10:47
tuanphami used kopete 0.2.7 againt10:47
tuanphamno10:47
tuanphami works10:47
Tm_T0.12.7 ?10:47
tuanphamyep10:49
tuanphamit use for kde 310:49
tuanphamnot for kde 410:49
Tm_Tyes10:49
tuanphambut it runs ok10:49
Tm_Tit does indeed, though, it might lack some features compared to newer10:49
Agent_bobyes some of the "features" was what he was trying to "lack"10:55
Agent_bob254/256 getting close to done.11:02
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kaminixMeh... something's up with KTorrent. Recently it haven't resumed my downloads when it's supposed to but rewrite them with nothingness, effectively removing them from my harddrive.... paaartyyy11:15
kaminix3.5 GB of re-downloading11:15
kaminixConfirmed, all deleted.11:16
smerilhow can i enter what part i want to download in K torrent after i have done it the first time?11:18
kaminixAh, oh... nevermind. This was my mistake. Specified wrong folder. :p11:18
kaminixsmeril: Load the info widget plugin.11:18
kaminixThen choose 'Files'11:19
smerilI solved the problem11:20
smerilthanks anyway11:20
TeslaTonyHow do I log an account off from the command line?11:21
emilsedghTeslaTony: what kind of account?11:22
ere4siTeslaTony: log a user off?11:23
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TeslaTonyere4si: Yeah. I have my guest account logged in through a command line only session and I want it logged off11:26
ere4siTeslaTony: I've never had to do that - anyone know how?11:27
TeslaTonyerm...nevermind...seems the command is "logout"11:28
chi_hey all, still got some problems while booting "waiting for root file system"... stops with busybox, pls help11:30
ubuntu__HDD LOCKED WHO HQVE Q SOLUTION11:38
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taghast41 HDD LOCKED WHO HaVE Q SOLUTION11:44
dustrialhey all, still got some problems while booting "waiting for root file system"... stops with busybox, pls help11:46
GularsI'm doing a upgrade on my box, and it's giving me "Errors were encountered while processing: virtualbox-ose QMutex::lock: Deadlock detected in thread -1210718016" what should I do?11:46
GularsI'm using the gui dist-upgrade tool... anyone have any help?11:48
SlimeyPeteprobably best to remove virtualbox and then try the upgrade again11:48
SlimeyPetehopefully it hasn't tied itself in a knot11:48
Gularshmmm11:48
Gularsthe installer have halted at 99%, should I just kill it?11:49
benishorHello there. During a recent upgrade, it seems my partition got locked to read only11:49
benishoris there anything I can do to fix it ?11:49
Gularsbtw: the terminal-output-thingie should be readonly, no?11:49
Gularsbenishor, first I guess you'll have to remount the partition rw from the command line?11:50
Gularsand then edit /etc/fstab?11:50
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benishorGulars : and how would I remount the partition ?11:52
DexterFhi11:53
DexterFgot a bunch of perl process here that have to to with proFTPd, but it isn't installed: http://pastebin.ca/100163811:54
Gularsmount -n -o remount,rw /11:54
DexterFwhat's this? where does it come from? why does it take up 95% cpu? never seen it before11:54
benishorthank you Gulars !11:55
Gularsnp11:55
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marcherubuntu or kubuntu?12:24
emilsedghmarcher: sorry?12:25
marcheri just installed kubuntu..... i had ubuntu installed ...it crashed (im new to linux) and kubuntu seems weird12:26
SlimeyPete*shrug* use it for a while, and then decide which you like best.12:26
SlimeyPetethere's not much difference between the two really - it's all down to personal taste.12:27
marcherfair enough!!    i like the layout12:27
marcherwindoze i just had enough off12:28
marchukevich-mты вообще есть русские? )12:30
emilsedgh!ru | marchukevich-m12:30
ubot5marchukevich-m: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke12:30
kaminixIs Adobe's flash player made for GTK? Is that why it keeps crashing in Konqueror but works in Firefox?12:39
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moope1compiz or beryl?12:40
emilsedghkaminix: Flash Player 9 uses something that just exists in Firefox iirc12:41
kaminixemilsedgh: Any words about if that's going to be fixed in future versions?12:43
emilsedghkaminix: i dont know.12:43
kaminixHmm... but it does work in Konqueror... only it's quite unstable.12:43
flaccid_flash player or flash plugin?12:44
kaminixNo idea, nonfree stuff anyway.12:45
giacomo!it12:46
ubot5Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:46
flaccid_i don't believe flash player plugin uses either12:47
lovreanyone tried kubuntu 8.04 with kde4?12:50
flaccid_yeah12:51
dustriallovre:  yeah on my laptop from beta till now12:51
lovredustrial: does it have many bugs? I will install 8.04 but dont know between kde3 and kde412:52
flaccid_well i feel as though its buggy12:53
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tammehi12:54
ScorpKingi just installed 8.04. someone mentioned problems with konsole but i don't see any. anyone know what the problems are?12:54
Dr_williskde4  is not all that useable. Too many missing features12:54
SlimeyPeteScorpKing: I've not noticed any12:55
dustriallovre: install kde3 if you are working productive12:55
ScorpKingSlimeyPete: ok thanks12:55
lovredustrial: ok, thank you12:55
krypto__is there a way to import a pcf file in network-manager to config a vpn connection?12:58
krypto__it works when I connect with kvpnc but with network manager it doenst work12:59
flaccid_krypto__, i believe thats what kvpnc is for, not network manager13:00
flaccid_i could be wrong but. maybe network manager will get vpn support soon13:00
tammehow can I easily upload files over the internet to my PC?13:00
krypto__network manager can handle vpn connections as well when you install the network-manager-vpnc package13:01
flaccid_krypto__, google it. it looks like it might13:01
flaccid_well there you go13:01
krypto__yeah but it doesnt work13:01
flaccid_!doesntwork13:01
ubot5Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.13:01
Dr_willistamme,  dozens of ways.. ssh/scp is one fairly easy/secure way13:01
cpk1or wget, you didnt say where you were uploading from tamme13:01
flaccid_krypto__, what type of vpn13:02
krypto__the error message of network manager is not really helpful: "could no start vpn connection"13:02
tammemy friend is on a windows computer... and I only want some files13:02
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krypto__flaccid: cisco vpn with vpnc13:03
tammeand he is not so god on PC things13:03
krypto__i think I made exactly the same config options on both tools, kvpnc and network manager... kvpnc works, network-manager doesnt13:04
tammeI tried it with vsftp but every time I want to upload something FireFTP says 553 Could not create file. : /a short story.odt13:04
boaz_Why does msiexec /i thebat_pro_4_0_24.msi fail to install The Bat! email client under Wine?13:05
Dr_willistamme,   this is over the internet? or a lan?13:05
tammeinternet13:06
Dr_willistamme,  depending on the size of the files. It may be just easier to use one of those file-share/rapidshare sites.13:06
cpk1or even email13:06
flaccid_krypto__, ok then sorry mate. did you check logs?13:06
cpk1or ssh but I dont know what steps you need to do to get it to work with windows13:07
Dr_willisand it mayt be a hassle to mess with  any router/firewall/port forwarding stuff13:08
krypto__nothing helpful in the log files, alot of "waiting and scheduled" till I get a could not connect13:11
Dr_willisssh + winscp is handy.13:12
moope1Best way of getting flash working on hardy is?13:14
Famoope1: through the package manager13:18
moope1Fa, which package?13:20
Faadept13:21
moope1que?13:21
moope1apt-get install.......13:21
Falol13:21
Fai don't use the commline that much13:22
Facommand13:22
moope1pulse?13:22
cpk1moope1: flashplugin-nonfree will get flash up and running13:22
Faclick on start...applications...settings then package manager13:22
Fasearch flash13:22
moope1cpk1: ta13:23
Dr_willisYou might want to install 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' also - it grabs a lot of other things you proberly will want as well13:23
moope1mp3 support and the suchlike?13:24
cpk1moope1: yes13:24
moope1excellent13:24
cpk1although I dunno if that enables dvd playback13:25
moope1cpk1: Its meant to be my work machine :)13:32
crazy_busis there a special way to use a program that uses jack in 8.04.  As I'm not sure how to13:42
flaccid_crazy_bus, jackd?13:43
crazy_busflaccid_: thanks, trying that now13:44
flaccid_cool13:44
kalibmornig people13:45
flaccid_howdy13:45
kalibGuys...need some help here...13:45
kalibi can't configure the jre plugin on firefox 3.0 (the default one on kubuntu 8.04)13:45
kalibcould anyone here do it correctly?13:46
crazy_busflaccid_: is there anything to do after installing jackd?13:46
flaccid_crazy_bus, comes down to the program. but usually not13:48
crazy_busflaccid  Any idea on qsynth.  It's still not recognising jack13:49
flaccid_is jack running?13:50
flaccid_jackd13:50
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crazy_busflaccid_: what should options should I use on jackd?13:51
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crazy_busmabey qjackctl will help13:52
flaccid_err crazy_bus ps aux | grep jackd13:53
flaccid_is it running?13:53
flaccid_and if it is and its not working with your app, you need to see what you have to do for jackd13:53
crazy_busflaccid_: 14631  0.0  0.0   3008   756 pts/1    R+   22:53   0:00 grep jackd13:53
JuJuBeeWhat is a *good* substitute for Dreamweaver on linux/13:54
flaccid_crazy_bus, sudo /etc/init.d/jackd start ?13:55
flaccid_!info nvu | JuJuBee13:55
ubot5jujubee: Package nvu does not exist in gutsy13:55
flaccid_oh what a rip13:55
flaccid_!webauthoring13:55
ubot5Factoid webauthoring not found13:55
flaccid_dang13:55
crazy_bus!info kompozer | JuJuBee13:56
ubot5jujubee: Package kompozer does not exist in gutsy13:56
crazy_busJuJuBee: http://kompozer.sourceforge.net/13:56
Jucato!info kompozer hardy13:57
ubot5Package kompozer does not exist in gutsy13:57
JuJuBeekompozer does not do the css hints for elements...13:57
crazy_busflaccid_: qjackctl got it working13:58
JuJuBeeI like the hints / auto complete that dreamweaver gives...13:58
flaccid_fair enough13:58
JuJuBeeWish they would release for linux...13:58
flaccid_only problem is DW is not really web standards. best to learn html/css properly13:58
JuJuBeeI agree, but still nice to have the hints.  Saves typing and also lets me know *what* is available.13:59
JuJuBeeI'm just learning css14:00
JuJuBeeSo,, why is DW not web standars?14:00
JuJuBeeI thought it was14:00
flaccid_JuJuBee, better to use a real IDE then like Eclipse14:02
JuJuBeeHmm, will check it out.14:02
JuJuBeeLinux?14:02
flaccid_its not valid, to get it right with webstandards you need to tweak. they are improving it but as there is a DW task force with webstandards.org14:02
BonesolTeraDyneJuJuBee: That's because DW's generated code doesn't always validate to W3C standards14:02
flaccid_yes linux and windows and whatever else14:02
JuJuBeeAh, java based...14:03
JuJuBeeCool.14:03
JuJuBeeInstalling now.14:03
flaccid_i don't think its made in java14:04
JuJuBeeYou are correct, it is a Java IDE also, didn't read far enough, my bad.14:04
JuJuBeeHow are you at display problems?14:05
llutzflaccid_: "open-source Integrated development environment (IDE) written primarily in Java. ..." (from wikipedia) :)14:05
flaccid_cool14:05
flaccid_im fine at display problems14:06
flaccid_rightio im wrong then14:06
crazy_busJuJuBee: http://www.linux.com/feature/13060114:06
JuJuBeecrazy_bus : looks like quanta plus wins14:10
Pensacolais there a way to do actions when the mouse touches a screen corner in kde4?14:12
flaccid_i've tried all those and they seemed alright, but yeah i have no idea what is good i think it comes down to the user and their needs. i only need kate.14:12
JuJuBeeI use kate 99.9% of the time, but I would like to learn CSS and think an editor is helpful14:14
Jucatothen you'd be happy to know that Quanta uses katepart as its text editor component14:15
Jucatoso you get the features of Kate with the features of a Web IDE...14:15
flaccid_yeah i noticed that,then i noticed that i don't need it :)14:16
flaccid_ides for basic things like html and css kind of get in the way for me14:16
nosrednaekimides kinda got in the way of Julius Ceaser....14:18
frederickhello all14:18
nosrednaekimsorry.... couldn't resist :P14:18
frederickanyone got experienced with linux mce ?14:18
* Jucato whacks nosrednaekim senseless14:19
nosrednaekimfrederick: not really.... there is a channel for that though14:19
giacomo!it14:19
ubot5Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!14:19
frederickall right14:19
frederickwhere can i find this channel14:19
Jucato!linuxmce14:19
ubot5The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (support in #linuxmint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), Ubuntu Ultimate14:19
frederickplease14:19
Jucatofrederick: see above ^^^14:19
frederickthanks14:19
frederick:)14:19
* nosrednaekim can't answer becuase he is senseless14:19
* nosrednaekim makes Jucato do all the work today14:20
Jucatoyou wish! :P14:20
flaccid_haha14:20
flaccid_i need a beer to help atm i think14:20
crazy_busis rosegarden the best program to try with qsynth. Or is there a lighter program I could use?14:21
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nosrednaekimcrazy_bus: you might get a better answer in #ubuntu-studio14:21
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crazy_busnosrednaekim: I did a few minutes ago, but have got no answer yet14:21
Bauldersknetworkworkmanager still not support WPA and static IP's ?14:22
flaccid_crazy_bus, probably. qsynth is midi vst instrument? perhaps lmms .. ?14:24
flaccid_Baulders, it does support it yes14:24
flaccid_as long as the hardware on each end does14:25
Baulderswheres the file that holds what wifi device you've plugged in (eth1,2,3 etc...) I want to delete them and start again14:25
CYREXhello all14:25
flaccid_Baulders, delete all entries in /etc/network/interfaces besides localhost and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and then restart knetworkmanager14:25
moope1I had all my virtual machines on a disk which was under LVM (there was only one disk but just in case you know). I have installed ubuntuy and would like to run it from there but how do I mount the disk?14:25
CYREXif i compile the .25 kernel on kubuntu will the nvidia drivers from the nvidia-new-glx still work afterwards?14:25
nosrednaekimCYREX: no14:26
flaccid_moope1, you can mount lvm directly iirc14:26
nosrednaekimCYREX: learned a bit too much in that session yesterday... eh? :P14:26
moope1flaccid_: yea, I have seen someone do lvm foo like this14:26
moope1but ...........I have no idea where to start!14:26
samiHow i can change my linux partition size after install?14:26
moope1sami: LVM :)14:26
nosrednaekimsami: boot the liveCD again14:26
flaccid_moope1, mount /dev/sda1 for example14:26
flaccid_oops14:27
flaccid_sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda114:27
CYREXhehe14:27
CYREXoki thanks14:27
nosrednaekimCYREX: yeah, you'll have to get the driver from nvidia14:28
nosrednaekimwhich, after compiling a whole kernel, should be nothing to you :P14:28
BauldersI only see WEP when configuring wifi though , no WPA (I'm running WPA but want static IP)14:28
CYREXonly wanted to know if it will work for the .25 version or is it limited only for the .2414:28
moope1flaccid_: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'14:28
flaccid_Baulders, configuring the wifi where?14:28
flaccid_moope1, we may need a package  or mount differently one sec14:29
flaccid_moope1, is that the actual dev for the logical part in sudo fdisk -l ?14:29
Bauldersflaccid_: knetworkmanager or through system settings14:29
flaccid_Baulders, it will definately be in knetworkmanager if the AP supports it14:29
moope1flaccid yes14:30
Bauldersso you saying I put my WPA key into where it says WEP?14:30
flaccid_moope1, gotta do it like this iirc mount /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 /mnt/VolGroup00/LogVol0014:30
flaccid_something like14:30
flaccid_Baulders, no it looks like it thinks there is no wpa on that access point14:31
flaccid_Baulders, check iwlist eth1 scanning <-- eth1 being the wireless logical device name14:31
flaccid_moope1, or that might be on fedora. one sec sorry14:31
nosrednaekimBaulders: flaccid_: iwlist eth1 scan   ........ not scanning14:32
flaccid_moope1, google helps: http://www.linux-sxs.org/storage/fedora2ubuntu.html14:32
crazy_busflaccid_: thanks.  Still quite big, but I think I'll try it14:32
flaccid_nosrednaekim, either is fine14:33
nosrednaekimah... so it is...my bad14:33
Bauldersflaccid_: http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1rm9.png thats what I see14:34
moope1flaccid_ are you moving from fedora 2?14:35
flaccid_Baulders, you do not configure in system settings which is a static system thing. you configure in knetworkmanager which is user based14:35
flaccid_moope1, no thats just the example14:35
flaccid_Baulders, if you configure anything 'concrete' in system settings for the interface, you won't be able to configure it in knetworkmanager14:36
nosrednaekimflaccid_: manual setup is done via systemsettings14:36
flaccid_nosrednaekim, this is not manual setup, its user wpa14:36
flaccid_system settings does not support wpa14:36
nosrednaekimyeah.... but for static IP, you need manual setup14:36
flaccid_um not necessarily. still system settings doesn't support wpa.14:37
nosrednaekimthats true, yes14:38
nosrednaekimBaulders: why do you need static IP? does your router not have dhcp?14:38
Bauldersyes, but have many things and need to now the IP's etc14:39
nosrednaekimBaulders: most wireless (and otherwise) routers have Mac address to IP configuration tables14:39
nosrednaekimso that you always get the same IP14:39
flaccid_yeah static dhcp14:39
nosrednaekimthat would be far simpler14:40
flaccid_but from memory i believe if you put only the static ip in system settings you should still be able to associate with knetworkmanager14:40
Bauldersmy router is pants and I keep needing to reset it and thus all dhcp addresses change again :(14:40
NakkelWhy do I have to install libarts1-xine-package by hand to get Konqueror to generate thumbnail icons from video files? :( Couldnt it be installed by default?14:40
flaccid_actually no im wrong there. thats a real caveat i think...14:40
nosrednaekimflaccid_: yes, it is14:40
flaccid_Baulders, router model?14:40
flaccid_nosrednaekim, its a real caveat?14:40
Bauldersflaccid_: Belkin rubbish14:41
flaccid_oh14:41
flaccid_jump over the fence then14:41
nosrednaekimflaccid_: well, if you use system settings to configure it once, you won't be able to configure it with knetworkmanager until you comment out certain lines in /etc/network/interfaces14:41
flaccid_nosrednaekim, yeah thats the caveat i was talking about. this is where windows wins!14:42
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nosrednaekim:)14:42
flaccid_its not good. and also if you want to install system wpa, thats a bit more manual and not really documented14:43
flaccid_but it is possible in /etc/network/interfaces14:43
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okvHas anyone else got this bug after upgrading to 8.04: In Adept when you click "manage repositories" it just fetches updates (same as the "fetch updates" button), so there is no way to manage repositories through Adept anymore?14:44
flaccid_wow that sounds like a big bug..14:44
nosrednaekimokv: haven't heard of, or seen that, no.14:44
okvI'll check if other items in the Adept menu also just fetch updates14:45
okvOther items in the Adept-menu seem to work as they should, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade, but the first two items in the menu are doing exactly same thing "fetch updates"14:45
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okvAlthough the second item says "Manage repositories" and should take me into another window where I can manage repositories14:46
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amerigohello everibody...!!!14:46
amerigoI need an info14:46
amerigowhere i can find kernel directory14:47
flaccid_well yes you want manage repositories14:47
Baulderssorry, i need to use wpasupplicant and alter /etc/network/interfaces then?14:47
flaccid_kernel what? locate kernel14:47
okvIt's not only a menu problem, I made a toolbar button for "Manage Repositories" and when I click on that button, it also just fetches updates and does nothing else14:47
amerigoyes... locate server, i suppose14:48
amerigoSorry for my english14:48
flaccid_Baulders, its directives for wpasupp in /etc/network/interfaces i just can't remember what - please try googling14:48
amerigoehmm14:48
amerigolocate kernel14:48
amerigo! kernel14:49
ubot5The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages14:49
flaccid_Baulders, it could all be in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo14:50
flaccid_!find kernel14:50
ubot5Found: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, nfs-kernel-server, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 (and 47 others)14:50
flaccid_!find linux-source14:50
ubot5Found: linux-source, linux-source-2.6.2014:50
flaccid_what specifically?14:50
amerigouhmmm14:51
amerigovery well14:51
stefan-fHello all: )14:52
stefan-fI did an upgrade to hardy yesterday, now I miss ksynaptic for my touchpad. Its gone during upgrade. Where can I find it now?14:53
nosrednaekimdon't think its here anymore14:54
llutzstefan-f: better use qsynaptics now14:54
nosrednaekimuse qsynaptics or gsynaptics14:54
flaccid_!find synaptic14:54
ubot5Found: synaptic, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev (and 3 others)14:54
flaccid_!info ksynaptics14:54
ubot5ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)14:54
flaccid_ubotu still uses gutsy?14:55
nosrednaekim!info ksynaptics hardy14:55
ubot5ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)14:55
blubbanyone has an idea why my b43 driver does not work correctly?14:55
nosrednaekimyeah... apparently14:55
llutzksynaptics dev stopeed work, better use something else14:55
okvI have huge list of packages in the apt-get saying "the following packages have been kept back", is there any way to make apt-get install those?14:55
stefan-fhmm, I can not find qsynaptics, gsynaptics is there but when I close it, its closed and not in tray14:55
mars__hi all14:56
CYREXokv for some reason the apt wont still them14:57
CYREXyou COULD force them but that may lead to a broken package14:57
CYREXinstall*14:57
amerigoIt's better that i explane my problem..... I'm going to install USB Modem on Kubuntu. In the makefile there's a string that set the variable KERNELDIR14:57
jhutchins_wkokv: Perhaps better to figure out _why_ they have been kept back and address that.14:58
amerigoKERNEL_SOURCES=/usr/src/linux14:58
nosrednaekimamerigo: did you run "sudo apt-get install build-essential" yet?14:58
amerigoI had to cange this in the root of my kernel14:58
flaccid_okv, try sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 <-- substitue with the ones held back14:58
amerigobut i don't know where it is14:59
amerigowhen i go in usr>>src>>    .... I can't find linux14:59
amerigofolder14:59
amerigoOk I'm explaned15:00
amerigoI hope15:00
amerigonosrednaekim: Already done "sudo apt-get install build-essential"15:01
flaccid_amerigo, sudo apt-get install linux-source`uname -r`15:01
flaccid_brb amerigo if you are on generic that probably won't work15:01
okvflaccid_: There's like 100 packages there15:01
okvflaccid_: one of them is adept-manage,that might be the reason why my adept doesn't work as it should15:01
jhutchins_wkokv: Perhaps it would be helpful to google the error message?15:02
okvflaccid_: Installing them manually like you said seems to work. I just typed sudo apt-get install adept-manager and now it's installing it and all the dependencies. I'll do that to all the other 99 packages as well15:03
okvjhutchins_wk: I've googled it, didn't find any good explanation15:03
flaccid_okv, yeah normal process15:03
flaccid_!info linux-source15:04
ubot5linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB15:04
flaccid_amerigo, which release and kernel are you on?15:04
mefisto__before upgrade to hardy I was using a patched ati driver, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout and was working well. Just wondering will this driver work in hardy? Do I have to build the driver again, or can I just skip to the install stage?15:05
amerigoflaccid: i am on kubuntu15:05
flaccid_amerigo, please paste uname -a15:06
amerigoflaccid: what means 'uname -r' ????15:06
amerigoor what is uname??15:06
CYREXkernel release number15:07
CYREXtype uname --help for more info15:07
amerigoexcellent15:07
okvflaccid_: Doesn't work in the end. It installs packages, sets them up and suddenly I get message "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and it hangs there15:09
okvflaccid_: Googling for it15:09
amerigoLinux kubuntu 2.6.15-51-386 #1 PREEMPT Tue Feb 12 16:52:52 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux15:10
flaccid_okv, that is a normal message, you have to wait15:10
flaccid_amerigo, now  apt-cache search linux-source please15:10
amerigolinux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches15:11
amerigolinux-source-2.6.15 - Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches15:11
flaccid_amerigo, i guess thats a meta package. can you let me know the result of sudo apt-get install linux-source15:12
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flaccid_if that doesn't work then sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15 will work15:13
amerigo..........It try to install linux-source-2.6.1515:13
flaccid_sweet15:14
amerigook ... installing15:14
flaccid_well thats what you want..15:14
flaccid_if thats not enough, you may need the headers as well amerigo15:14
amerigoBut this is an upgrading ?????15:15
amerigoI thought that I already have kernel installed....15:15
flaccid_no this is install the source code that you need for what you are doing15:15
flaccid_linux-source = kernel source != kernel itself15:16
amerigoMy need was only to know in what directory was the kernel...15:17
amerigoKERNEL_SOURCES=/usr/src/linux15:17
amerigoonly change this string15:17
flaccid_like i said kernel != kernel sources15:17
flaccid_so you are wrong with you think you needed15:17
ubuntu-dronHello there. Some help needed. When upgading from 7.10 to 8.04, upgraded NetworkManager does not work. It seems to ignore /etc/network/interfaces, and to blank it once per... 15 minutes or so i guess . Tried clean install, but that wasn't of any effect. The trouble stays the same. Googled a lot, but didn't find anything interesting. Can anyone help me here?15:17
nosrednaekimubuntu-dron: do you have wireless?15:18
ubuntu-dronnosrednaekim: yes15:19
nosrednaekimubuntu-dron: ah.. ok... otherwise I was going to say to scrap network manager :)15:19
ubuntu-dronnosrednaekim: but wired net also seems broken :(15:19
nosrednaekimI've never seen that though. could you file a bug please?15:19
flaccid_did you check logs dron?15:19
nosrednaekimah.. true... dmesg might be helpful15:20
flaccid_cat /var/log/messages15:20
ubuntu-dronNOthing helpful15:21
flaccid_dron does your connection require security like wep or wpa?15:21
ubuntu-dronYet, will file a bug, and then we'll se the results... Maybe it is the bug of a NM itself?15:21
ubuntu-dronflaccid_15:21
ubuntu-dronrequires wep hex15:22
flaccid_dron then remove any entries for that device from /etc/network/interfaces and use knetworkmanager15:22
flaccid_i don't see a bug yet15:22
okvI think the problem was that my upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 was not complete, and lots of the packages were "kept back" by apt-get15:23
flaccid_okv, yeah15:23
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ubuntu-dronflaccid_: I tried. But it simply won't connect to network. Even when it is unprotected15:23
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: the wireless card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG15:24
mefisto__Need advice building ati video driver. Before upgrade to hardy I was using a patched ati driver, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout and was working well. Just wondering will this driver work in hardy? Do I have to build the patched driver again, or can I just skip to the install stage?15:24
flaccid_ubuntu-dron, at that point was anything in your /etc/network/interfaces besides localhost?15:24
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: no15:24
flaccid_perhaps it is a bug15:25
flaccid_what does knetworkmanager get up to then?15:25
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: even when tried to define the interfaces there, it was blanked in 15-20 minutes or so15:25
flaccid_i don't know what blanked means15:26
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ubuntu-dronflaccid_: pardon me. it was restored to the previous state. Like it was never edited15:26
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: *had been.15:27
flaccid_ah ok15:27
flaccid_even though you confirmed it was saved?15:27
steelsnakesilly question... did you edit it by hand while network manager was running? or from within network manager? or any other way?15:28
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ubuntu-dronflaccid_: exactly15:28
steelsnakeoke that was 3 questions ;)15:28
flaccid_sounds like a bug now, but dron i would also recommend removing avahi / avahi-daemon <-- much problems like that i have experienced15:28
ubuntu-dronsteelsnake: NM stopped, then the file edited15:28
steelsnakeah oke. no idea what causes that then, sorry15:29
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: really? 0_o everything works just fine on gutsy...15:29
flaccid_thats what everyone says15:30
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flaccid_in reality there is problems with every release15:30
ubuntu-dronflaccid_: yes indeed :)15:31
icewatermani have both windows and linux installed on one box (on different harddrives) and the clock in windows xp runs 2 hours behind15:31
ubuntu-dronallright, thanks to all. will fo report a bug perhaps15:32
steelsnakesounds like timezones might be off, icewaterman15:33
flaccid_icewaterman, if its not different timezone then it could be UTC, turn it off in linux15:33
flaccid_actually sorry turn off utc in bios for clock15:34
steelsnake...or that... i'd have suggested to tell windows to use UTC :)15:34
flaccid_yeah sorry my memory is bad its something like that15:34
icewatermansteelsnake: i found something how to teach windows to use utc15:34
icewatermanHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation] "RealTimeIsUniversal"=dword:0000000115:34
flaccid_cppl15:34
flaccid_cool15:34
steelsnakeyeh i know... i set all my windows boxes to use UTC, much more convenient IMO.15:35
Frekuafter upgrade i got both kde3 and kde4 applications in menu15:35
Frekuhow to get rid of kde 3 ?15:35
flaccid_Freku, if someone doesn't know hear perhaps #kde or #ubuntu-kde415:36
Frekuah ok15:36
Frekuill try that15:36
blubbin which package is the ndiswrapper module?15:36
flaccid_!info ndiswrapper15:37
ubot5Package ndiswrapper does not exist in gutsy15:37
flaccid_!ndiswrapper | blubb15:37
ubot5blubb: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:37
flaccid_sorry i'll have a look15:37
stdinit's in linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)15:38
flaccid_!info ndiswrapper-common15:38
ubot5ndiswrapper-common: Common scripts required to use the utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.38-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 100 kB15:38
flaccid_true15:38
reginattothe traditional way to add jre plugin at mozilla firefox 3 and 2 (creating a simbolic link to the plugin), doesn't work in my kubuntu/kde4. Does anyone know how to do it?15:38
blubbflaccid_: i guess that does not answer my question15:39
stdinblubb: look at my answer then15:40
blubboh thanks a lot15:40
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flaccid_ah yeah stdin is the man15:40
flaccid_im way behind..15:40
stdindpkg -S  ftw15:40
blubbstdin: but if I don't know where the modules was... gg15:42
blubbthanks it worked15:42
stdinblubb: I did "dpkg -S ndiswrapper.ko"15:42
stdinyou can search on packages.ubuntu.com too15:43
flaccid_like /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper ?15:43
flaccid_ah ok15:43
flaccid_stdin, what you running for your desktop atm?15:44
stdinHardy/KDE415:44
flaccid_sweet as. what sort of GPU ?15:45
blubbok15:45
stdinflaccid: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller15:46
stdindoes what I need it to ;)15:46
stdinand I don't need special restricted drivers from hell15:47
flaccid_coolio. im just a bit worried about people having crashes on logout with the prop. drivers for nvidia and ati15:47
flaccid_on the hardy15:47
flaccid_i got it myself15:47
steelsnakei've had that with Gutsy too, haven't tried on hardy yet15:47
stdinI can't test it, I don't have a system with either :p15:47
flaccid_yeah its a bit common in the last couple releases15:47
steelsnakefunny though not crashing at work, just at home15:47
flaccid_i've had it on new and old cards. its a pity not much luck on the ubuntu installs lately15:48
steelsnakeat work its 4x nvidia 5500's, at home an ATI x165015:48
attila__anybody knows how to fix a blank screen startup?15:49
flaccid_ati 9600 radeon mobility m30 on my notebook is what is a pita for me15:49
steelsnakeworks with the default driver (forgot what that one is - VESA?)15:49
flaccid_attila__, press ctrl+alt+f2, do you get a tty login?15:49
flaccid_i need restricted driver for playing wolf et15:49
steelsnakeand what graphics card, attila? :)15:49
steelsnakeyep same here flaccid15:49
flaccid_i will be testing hardy with a new nvidia 9600GT soon which is a very fat card15:50
attila__Intel 84515:50
steelsnakei'll probably build a gaming rig this fall... but i'll put windows on it, makes more sense for playing games. Linux for work, windows for toys ;)15:51
steelsnakehmm that's a lappy, attila?15:52
attila__no, older rebuilt tower15:52
flaccid_!intel15:52
ubot5Factoid intel not found15:52
flaccid_!video15:52
ubot5Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications15:52
steelsnakeah oke15:53
flaccid_sorry i look15:53
steelsnakei'd just disable the boot splash and boot in text mode - X does come up ok though, right?15:53
steelsnakejust no boot splash?15:54
attila__correct15:54
flaccid_!intelfix15:54
ubot5Factoid intelfix not found15:54
Pici!intelhda15:54
ubot5For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto15:54
flaccid_did you get a tty attila__ ?15:54
steelsnakeif you don't mind not having a graphical splash screen, disable it in /boot/grub/menu.lst (change splash to nosplash)15:55
flaccid_attila__, you might need to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e15:55
stefan-fthis is OT: someone knows how can I get cpuinfo, raminfo hddinfo on AIX 4.3? Or where I can get some more information about AIX?15:55
attila__tty? (sorry, newb)15:55
flaccid_attila__, login when you press ctrl+alt+f215:55
stefan-fand how to get some information about the system?15:56
jhutchins_wkstefan-f: You can purchase support from IBM.15:56
stefan-f:(15:56
flaccid_!google15:56
ubot5google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux15:56
jhutchins_wkstefan-f: Actually, there should be plenty of AIX info on the web.15:56
flaviahi, how do I get a kodak easyshare camera to work?15:57
stefan-fdo you have some good links?15:57
Picistefan-f: Perhaps try asking in ##unix and maybe ##linux too15:57
stefan-fahh,okay! thanks!!15:57
flaccid_flavia, did you try google?15:57
flaccid_flavia, check support in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCamerasKodak?highlight=%28kodak%2915:58
CoCaInEUmm any way to fix sound problem after 7,10 - 8,04 patch ? :>15:58
steelsnakeflavia: checked digiKam? if it has your camera model in it?15:58
MintLarsHi, I've got trouble starting zeroconf in systemsettings. When checking the "enable zeroconf"-checkbox, I get this error in the terminal when clicking apply: "/usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi: command not found". Anyone know what to do?16:00
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doobiesnakstest16:00
doobiesnakswerd16:00
doobiesnakspeeps16:00
MintLars...and yes, I've tried google16:00
doobiesnakswhatcha looking for16:00
flaccid_MintLars, which version of ubuntu?16:01
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MintLars8.04, recently upgraded16:02
jo4can i use the 8.04 LTS alternate install cd for a network install?16:02
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sypher_timeyes you can!16:03
jo4ok16:03
jo4sweet16:03
flaccid_MintLars, does sudo dpkg -l | grep avahi-daemon return a pkg ?16:03
MintLarsflaccid_: gives this: ii  avahi-daemon                               0.6.22-2ubuntu4                                    Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon16:04
flaviastefan-f: steelsnake: it's a kodak easyshare c743. it is present in digikam but I can't connect to it... I'm wondering if my cable is maybe broken16:04
dustrialhelp, while installing alsa ... make fails!16:04
flaccid_MintLars, this file doesn't exist in hardy16:05
ubuntuhello16:05
ubuntui'm french16:06
MintLarsflaccid_: well, I'm running hardy for sure16:06
MintLarsupgraded two days ago16:06
flaccid_yeah im looking , seems like its in gutsy16:06
ubuntuCan you give me the french #kubuntu ?16:06
flaccid_!fr | ubuntu16:06
ubot5ubuntu: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr16:06
ubuntuthank you16:07
flaccid_let me see if i can pastebin it16:07
MintLarsflaccid_: I also found this in launchpad, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/avahi/+bug/146807, but I have no idea how to include the script16:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 146807 in kdenetwork "Gutsy merge broke KDE's kcm_kdnssd" [Undecided,Fix released]16:07
flaccid_is somebody on gutsy here? can you please pastebin /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi16:08
flaccid_if its ascii16:08
flaccid_im not sure what you mean16:09
MintLarsflaccid_: the bug is exactly the same problem I have, and there's a fix in the comments, but I don't know what to do with it16:10
flaccid_try sudo touch /usr/share/avahi/enable_avahi16:10
flaccid_someone on gutsy just needs to pastebin the file for you16:11
flaccid_im on windows atm so can't even open the pkg16:11
MintLarsok16:11
MintLarsshould I get an output with that command, 'cause I don't16:12
flaccid_nah its blank for now16:12
flaccid_so http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/avahi-daemon16:12
flaccid_download the .deb and then open it and then looko at the script and copy it16:12
MintLarslooko?16:13
flaccid_look16:13
MintLars:)16:13
flaccid_sorry16:13
ct529hi there16:13
ct529I did apt-get update / apt-get upgrade16:13
ct529and i got the message16:13
ct529The following packages have been kept back:16:14
ct529  r-base r-base-core r-base-dev r-cran-rpart r-recommended16:14
flaccid_submit a bug after MintLars ..16:14
ct5290 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.16:14
ct529what does that mean?16:14
ct529never happened before ....16:14
giacomo!it16:14
ubot5Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!16:14
flaccid_ct529, try sudo apt-get install r-base r-base-core r-base-dev r-cran-rpart r-recommended16:14
flaccid_!pastebin | ct52916:14
ubot5ct529: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)16:14
MintLarsflaccid_: thanks, I'll see what I can do, but I'm kind of a n00b so I'm not sure it'll work16:14
ct529flaccid_: sorry, I thought 3 linbes was not considered a large text, that is why I did not use pastebin16:15
flaccid_i count 8 in total ct52916:15
flaccid_MintLars, it should just be a text script16:16
flaccid_so you can open with kdesudo kate16:16
ct529flaccid_: sorry, why 8????16:17
ct529flaccid_: I only posted 3 together ....16:17
MintLarslike I said, I'll see if I can do this, but I have SOME confidence at least :)16:17
flaccid_you could also count !ether ct52916:17
flaccid_!enter16:17
ubot5Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:17
flaccid_MintLars, should be able to open it in kde after download then find the file in it. the .deb is like an archive16:18
ct529flaccid_: what does !enter mean?16:19
flaccid_just try to put everything on 1 line16:19
ct529!enter16:19
ubot5Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:19
flaccid_eg. hi there  I did apt-get update / apt-get upgrade  and i got the message: <pastebin link>16:19
ct529flaccid_: ok16:20
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noobuntubeen trying to install oracle 11g using a specific oracle install account but it keeps failing as i can't seem to run any xserver apps using that account; i keep getting "Error: Can’t open display". any ideas?16:21
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tgreerHi... I have 2 questions....1) how can I make a key (115) act as my right mousebutton? or even better right mouse button = key + mouse click16:24
tgreer2) anyone good with wpa_supplicant?16:24
flaccid_im off16:24
yao_ziyuancan anyone send me kubuntu 8.04's default taskbar background image?16:25
yao_ziyuanto my mailbox: yaoziyuan@gmail.com16:25
ct529does anyone remeber the orginal ubuntu background, when ubuntu was launched? I cannot find it anymore .... do you know where it is?16:26
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patchI am having some trouble getting 3D to work on a compaq presario v6000 with a Geforce GO 615016:26
patchthe restricted drives just lock up my X session16:26
yao_ziyuancan anyone send your /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to yaoziyuan@gmail.com?16:27
yao_ziyuani wonder what is linux's file bitwise comparison command?16:28
yao_ziyuanin windows it's "FC /B"16:28
okvHas anyone got flashplugin to work with the latest opera on 8.04?16:28
llutzyao_ziyuan: "cmp" compares byte by byte16:29
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wesleywhere can i find the exsting kernel ?16:31
shtumfHi,16:33
trappistwesley: what exactly are you looking for, the kernel image file?16:33
trappistand by existing do you mean running?16:33
noobuntuAnyone familiar with installing oracle 11g on kubuntu?16:33
wesleyuh no wanna add a patch16:33
trappistwesley: you need the kernel source then, so you can compile it....16:34
trappistI don't have the link handy, and the bot is MIA, but there's a kernel compile howto on the wiki16:35
wesley i can not add a line ?16:35
wesleywhere that how to? i have a other but maby the one you name is better16:35
trappistwesley: if you have a patch, you have to patch the kernel *source code*.  Then compile the kernel and install.16:35
trappisthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile16:36
wesleythats ( i did on mandriva kernel compiling and after i was trying to mess things up i had cpufreq16:36
trappistwesley: this is not for beginners.  if you've never compiled software before, you could have a hard time16:36
wesleytrappist i not a beginnere anymore i am learning i piece by piece if it goes wring i start afain16:37
trappistwesley: good deal :)  building your own kernel isn't usually recommended with ubuntu, but it's a good learning experience16:38
rjune_I recently upgraded from gutsy to hardy, during the upgrade, ALT-F2 stopped working. it's still configured in KDE, but the keystroke seems to not be recognized. any suggestions?16:39
wesleytrappist i know but you cant always depend on others16:40
trappisttrue16:41
trappistrjune_: are you running compiz?16:41
wesleyif ubuntu does not add the patch then you dont have much choice or you wait or do it yourself16:41
trappistwesley: what's the patch for?16:41
rjune_trappist: don't think so16:41
rjune_nope16:42
wesleytrappist its enable cpufreq for celerons16:42
rjune_I'm thinking the run widget got moved to a separate package which hasn't been updated16:42
trappistrjune_: is kded running?16:42
rjune_yup16:42
tgreerhow do i emulate a right click using a key on the keyboard in KDE?16:43
trappistwesley: what celeron do you have?16:43
ubuntu_scuse me16:43
wesleytrappist celeron 54016:44
ubuntu_can you giva me the french #kubuntu again ?16:44
trappistwesley: I don't have a celeron, but the google hits suggest it should work without patching16:45
trappistubuntu_: #kubuntu-fr16:45
wesleytrappist no its reported as a bug16:45
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trappistah16:45
wesleyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17764616:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 177646 in linux-meta "Celeron M530, no frequence scaling" [Undecided,New]16:45
wesleyand there a patch released16:46
moope1If I wanted to have openoffice 2.4 and 3 on my heron what would be the best way of doing that?16:46
moope1chroot?16:46
mortalpendriveholllaaaaaa16:46
rjune_trappist: any other ideas?16:46
mortalpendrivehello16:47
shtumfdoes anyone know where in Europe could I buy stuff like caps,cups,t-shirts,etc ? Kubuntu inspired ofcourse ?16:47
trappistwesley: yep, I see, thanks16:47
mortalpendrivei need help width converts mdb to odb16:47
trappistrjune_: I've never seen this one before, those were my only guesses16:48
trappistmortalpendrive: mdb like an access database file?16:48
wesleyand the patch works16:48
tales_2010is there a way to disable that menu that appears around an icon when you put the curson over it?16:48
mortalpendriveyes , data and reports16:49
trappistmortalpendrive: I'm not aware of any linux tools for managing access databases16:49
trappistmortalpendrive: I take that back, try installing mdbtools and mdbtools-gmdb16:50
mortalpendriveohhh thanks you !!!!16:51
stdinwesley: I suggest you read what Matthew Garrett says, he knows a lot more about the kernel than most16:51
yao_ziyuanI SIMPLY WORSHIP KUBUNTU 7.10'S DEFAULT STYLE AND KWIN!16:53
stdin!caps16:53
ubot5PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.16:53
trappistoh there's the bot16:53
wesleystdin he says it does not lower the powe usage ?16:54
stdinwesley: it only throttles it rather than scales it, so it's a heat control measure rather than a power control one16:55
stdinCPU still runs at full power, just runs slower16:56
wesleyso it does not save realy much energy more that what he says?16:56
stdinthe only way it saves energy is by the fan not turning on as much I guess16:56
wesleyi gues it doest hurt to try it but indeed i dont believe it saves much energy16:57
wesleybut the intel celeron 540 should have power saving options16:58
stdincelerons are cheep for a reason ;)16:58
wesleystdin but under windows i could save energy by setting cpufreq low so this should also be able in linux17:00
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* lombra esta fora: Saindo por enquanto.17:01
stdinwesley: it's the same in windows, it just says it's scaling but it's throttling17:01
wesleybut its saves energy?17:02
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stdinwesley: it really depends on exactly what you do with your system. the best way to find out is to see how long your battery lasts with the CPU not throttled and how long when it is17:03
amerigo! games17:03
ubot5Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php17:03
amerigosomebody can define this:17:03
amerigoSet the variable KERNELDIR in the Makefile's17:03
amerigoto point to your kernel sources if the first option in chosen.17:03
amerigohow can i define this point??17:04
wesleyyeah i know but guidance-manager says 1.50 min doest mean this is right ?17:04
stdinestimates aren't always right (in fact mine are almost always wrong)17:05
ubuntu__sorry it's me...17:06
amerigoany ideas?17:06
wesleydo you think it under restimates how long you battery last ?17:06
ubuntu__can you give me the french #kubuntu again again17:06
stdin!fr17:06
ubot5Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr17:06
ubuntu__ok17:06
stdinwesley: sometimes, and sometimes it says I have 10 mins when I have 517:06
ubuntu__!fr17:06
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wesleywhere do i find the ubuntu kernel source that i download with apt-get??17:10
emilsedghwesley: probably launchpad.net17:11
stdin"sudo apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" to get the version you have now17:11
stdinerm, no sudo there actually17:11
stdinthere is a package called "linux-source" too i think17:11
wesleyyeah i installed that but i need to get by the kernel17:11
wesleyi need to apply the patch17:12
Robert125How do I ignore the enter- and exit- messages with Kopete?17:13
stdinthe source is located in /usr/src17:13
emilsedghRobert125: you could change it from your Accounts settings17:13
stdin!kernel | wesley, you'll have to recompile the kernel after you patch it17:13
ubot5wesley, you'll have to recompile the kernel after you patch it: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages17:13
wesleyi know got to how to one old debian way and other from ubuntu17:14
hdevalenceAfter upgrading to Hardy, knetworkmanager no longer sees any of my network interfaces17:17
hugodidier_HOLA17:19
hdevalenceand I could configure the network manually using iwconfig, but I don't want to because then KNetworkManager doesn't work17:20
nguyedit's a wireless connection?  Because I connect to my router wirelessly, and when I install kubuntu for the first time, it often says that I don't have a network device...17:22
hdevalencenguyed: it doesn't see either eired or wireless17:23
hdevalencewired17:23
hdevalenceright now I'm using a wire and sudo dhclient17:23
hdevalencemaybe I'll try rebooting17:24
DevourerSo... my sound still doesn't work.17:29
wesleydoes celeron not have acpi-cpufreq?17:33
geniiwesley: As I understand the celerons have fixed ratios so the scaling is lmited17:33
stdinwesley: because it's a lower quality CPU17:33
geniistdin: Hiya17:34
* stdin waves coffee at genii 17:34
stdins/coffee// ;)17:34
wesleyyeah i understand but they are also not what you call bad17:34
* genii sips on the coffee17:34
geniistdin: Thanks, as usual :)17:35
stdincelerons are simply have less code, so can do less17:35
wesleyyou can not put new cpu in a notebook?17:35
Devourerstdin, s/coffee //   <- Fix'd17:35
stdinif you were really a sed-head, you'd have used \s :p17:36
geniiwesley: Not usually17:36
Devourerstdin, what does \s do?17:36
stdinit means space17:36
Devourerstdin, oh.17:37
wesleygenii i though this already but then again celerons a good enough ( bet my notebook just ships with cheap battery )17:37
stdinecho " coffee "|sed 's/\s//g' -> "coffee"17:37
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Devourerstdin, I don't  know regex... :'(17:37
stdinDevourer: no one does17:37
DevourerLool17:38
dwidmannstdin, you really think so?17:38
Devourerstdin, what is sed?17:38
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geniiwesley: The time remaining that is usually indicated on power manager is not normally very accurate also. It of course depends much on how many usb things you have plugged, etc etc17:38
dwidmannDevourer: sed is a stream editor17:38
stdinDevourer: stream editor for filtering and transforming text17:38
stdindwidmann: depends which standard of regex are you on about17:39
DevourerI have some real questions, why in KDE4 do I see my applications on all the desktops when it says they are only on one?17:39
x-X-xim trying to install wine 9.45 so i can have warcraft 3 hosting support but the .deb says i need package libldap2, and libldap2 is obsolete and has been replaced what do i do ?17:40
dwidmannDevourer: probably a bug, KDE4 has lots of bugs.17:40
wesleygenii in windows my battery lasted for 3 hours this is normal  i gues ?17:40
stdinx-X-x: libldap2 exists here17:40
x-X-xhuh?17:40
x-X-xrepo says its obsolete17:40
Devourerdwidmann, would you recommend I go back to KDE 3.5 if I don't want to deal with strange bugs?17:41
geniiwesley: 2.5-4 hours is normal, depending on different factors like screen brightness, external devices being powered by the laptop, etc17:41
dwidmannwesley: might be normal, but it's not great ... I get about 6 or so with my laptop17:41
x-X-xand i have a new version installed of whatever replaces it but the wine9.45.deb says " error: dependancy libldap2 not installed "17:41
dwidmannDevourer: yeah, but if you don't mind filing bug reports then I'd say stay with KDE417:41
wesleydwidmann bet you got at expensive laptop ?17:42
stdinx-X-x: ah yeah, it exists (is installed), but it's not in the repos17:42
dwidmannwesley: not really17:42
wesleywhat then ?17:42
dwidmannwesley: well, expensive is relative17:42
dwidmannwesley: $135017:42
geniidwidmann: 1 external USB drive powered by the bus will suck an hour off the time easy17:42
Devourerdwidmann, meh...17:42
wesleydwidmann you see its the double my notebook cost 500 euro17:43
stdinx-X-x: you can use "--ignore-depends" with dpkg if you're sure you have all the deps17:43
dwidmannwesley: that's seriously not double17:43
wesleyeuro,s are more worth then dollar17:43
x-X-xstdin: .deb says this " package: wine Status: Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libldap2" btw this .deb is for feisty 7.04 and i have ubuntu hardy installed17:43
stdinx-X-x: that's the reason then ;)17:44
dwidmannwesley: 500 euro = 780 USD17:44
x-X-xstdin u use wine ?17:45
wesleyokay almost the double then17:45
stdinx-X-x: only when I need to, and I hardy ever need to17:45
x-X-xk17:45
wesleyi got just cheap acer but with 2 gb memory17:45
dwidmannwesley: I was just smart about which components I picked ...... core 2 duo processor was a must for battery life, any of them would have done nicely, 5400rpm hdd, 9 cell Li-I battery .... and when running on battery I let CPU scaling kick in and turn the screen brightness down a bit17:46
XyQrTwHello All17:47
XyQrTw(Excuse me but i'm french) I've some problems with my printer on Kubuntu, i dont find the driver ... who can help me ?17:48
dwidmannwesley: and to add a bit, I went with intel integrated graphics and wireless ..... that should keep power down a bit too17:49
wesleydwidmann me to should ive picked the dual core then i probly would had problens with the nvidia or ati card in it17:49
wesleyi got vga from intel to17:50
x-X-xso libldap2 went obsolete when hardy went final ?17:50
x-X-xstdin*17:50
dwidmannI wish I knew what was up with printers in Kubuntu hardy :(17:50
geniiXyQrTw: Looking your printer model up on here can be useful to know what driver it may use, or if it even works well with linux at all http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi17:50
dwidmannPrinting worked fine in Gutsy ... but I can't get it to work at all in hardy :(17:51
stdinx-X-x: it never made it into hardy at all afaik17:52
stdinx-X-x: maybe the early alphas17:53
XyQrTwgenii: It say i must use HPLIP, this program is for local printing ?17:53
geniiXyQrTw: Yes, for local or remote. Specifically to deal with HP printers17:54
x-X-xstdin k btw how do i run a .deb through terminal ?17:56
x-X-xdpkg or aptitude?17:57
stdinx-X-x: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb17:57
tycale_Hello17:57
stdinx-X-x: but you'd use "sudo dpkg -i --force-depends filename.deb"17:57
tycale_I don't know if I'm on Hardy Heron17:57
x-X-xstdin will that add the package to package manager so i can easily uninstall it like i would any other package manager app ?17:58
stdinx-X-x: yep17:58
tycale_Can you help me ?17:58
x-X-xstdin i luv u17:58
XyQrTwgenii: I can't use this program, it dont find my printer, it is on my neufbox17:58
stdin!version17:58
ubot5To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell17:58
tycale_ty17:58
tycale_ok 7.1017:58
JuJuBeeI would like to get the image libraries (GD?) into php on my server.  How do I do that?17:58
JuJuBeeDO I need to recompile php?17:59
tycale_aptitude upgrade is going to install 8.0 ?17:59
tycale_You need to change a file to enable GD, i think17:59
stdin!upgrade | tycale_18:00
ubot5tycale_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes18:00
tycale_ty  stdin, love your nick :D18:00
stdinthat's why I choose it :)18:00
x-X-xomg it says dpkg: --ignore-depends requires a legal package name18:01
JuJuBeetycale_ : any idea which file?18:01
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stdinx-X-x: try: --ignore-depends=wine18:01
tycale_I look after18:01
* lombra voltou.18:02
tycale_JuJuBee: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini18:02
stdinx-X-x: if not, then --ignore-depends=libldap218:02
tycale_after, see if the line extension=gd.so is right18:02
tycale_and reload apache218:02
tycale_or try to install php-gd18:03
tycale_php5-gd18:03
tycale_I think sudo aptitude install php5-gd is the best way18:04
JuJuBeeThanks, working18:04
dwidmannXyQrTw: I can't seem to get it to pick up my printer either .... it had no problem accessing network printers (cups) in gutsy :(18:04
XyQrTwdwidmann: i try to add my printer with config of kubuntu, but my driver is not in list.18:05
JuJuBeeThanks for the top tycale_  it works like a charm.18:05
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dwidmannXyQrTw: I noticed that too, my printer isn't in the list ....18:06
dwidmannXyQrTw: even though the driver is installed18:06
spykedtomatocan anyone tell me how long the update should take me @ 6Mbit connection? I'd like to upgrade to remix...18:06
jhutchins_wkspykedtomato: You usually won't get more than 300K from the servers.18:07
jhutchins_wkspykedtomato: 300K/s.18:07
spykedtomatojhutchins_wk: ok, doesn't sound too bad - any major issues with upgrading so far that you've heard about?18:08
jhutchins_wkspykedtomato: Generally agreed that it's one of the worst releases ever, upgrade breaks things for many users.18:09
spykedtomatowhoa18:09
leshiyis anybody here?18:09
* spykedtomato begins to rethink...18:10
jhutchins_wkleshiy: 370 lurkers18:10
stdinjhutchins_lt: source?18:10
jhutchins_wkstdin: For what?18:10
stdinfor "Generally agreed that it's one of the worst releases ever, upgrade breaks things for many users."18:11
dwidmannjhutchins_wk:  360 idlers, 10 lurkers18:11
jhutchins_wkstdin: Observations here and in other channels.18:11
jhutchins_wkstdin: You been asleep or something?18:11
geniiback18:11
stdinmost people seem to have a smooth upgrade actually18:11
geniiXyQrTw: Apologies for lag, work required me18:11
jhutchins_wkstdin: Perhaps most do, but there are plenty of problems, and I've seen it said that the rc was a lot more stable (probably meaning workable) than the actual release.18:12
TuxOtakuhey guys, I'm looking for a bandwidth monitoring application that has a similar feature set to NetMeter on Windows18:12
spykedtomatowhat's breaking for the people that are complaining?18:12
TuxOtakuany suggestions?18:12
spykedtomatoand is it hardy or remix they're talking about?18:12
o0Chris0owhat is the name in adebt for the extra screensavers for kde?18:12
jhutchins_wkspykedtomato: Printing, wireless, desktop issues.18:12
stdinjhutchins_lt: then "many" should be changed to "a few"18:13
jhutchins_wkstdin: Not from what I've seen.18:13
stdinfrom what I've seen, it is18:13
stdinI've upgraded several boxes on my network, all went well18:14
jhutchins_wkstdin: Don't be silly.  Not seeing errors only means you weren't looking in the right place.18:14
spykedtomatois kde4 good enough to use or should i stick with 3?18:14
stdinI've upgraded several friends, all went well18:14
_eMaX_hi all18:14
_eMaX_anyone here using eclipse on hardy?18:14
dwidmannspykedtomato: I recommend mixing them together18:14
jhutchins_wkstdin: All three of the *buntu users in our local LUG who've upgraded have had significant problems.18:14
spykedtomatodwidmann: mixing them? how's that?18:14
jhutchins_wkA lot of stuff doesn't run in 4 yet.18:15
dwidmannspykedtomato: have both kde3 and kde4 installed, log into one or the other, and use apps from both18:15
dwidmannspykedtomato: for example I'm using KDE3, but I'm also using konqueror4, Dolphin(not d3lphin), etc18:15
x-X-xwhats the difference between cvs and git ?18:16
spykedtomatook - did you install konqueror4 etc beside or on top of the older versions?18:16
spykedtomatoor does that just happen automatically when you install kde4 over a kde3?18:16
dwidmanngenii: the printer setup for KDE (ie: kcmshell printers) has been screwed around with for Ubuntu 8.04, and it doesn't seem to work any more ....18:17
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Bauldrickwheres the file that holds info about what printers are installed? I had a printer on remote cups server which isn't there anymore, but I can't delete the printer in system settings18:26
tycale_New kubuntu is on kde4 ?18:26
edoceoI tried KDE4 and then removed now my desktop is all hosed up - konqueror won't run, things look to dolphin for file system viewing...how do I reset all this?18:26
KredHi, with Kaffeine theres a bug with the DVD codec install. Does anyone know a workaround?18:26
tycale_New kubuntu is on kde4 ?18:27
JI upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 (kde3) yesterday on an Acer 2020 laptop, now shutdown doesn't power off and log off user just freezes.  I've tried the acpi=force and reboot=b kernel options.  Can anyone suggest something/anything! else I can try?18:27
dwidmannKred: installing the codec manually would work nicely18:27
Jtycale_: IIRC you can choose either 3 or 418:27
dwidmann!css | Kred18:27
ubot5Kred: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs18:27
tycale_ok, thanks you18:27
Jtycale_: but they are different downloads18:27
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dwidmannKred: I've noticed the bug too, however, I sometimes run into its little circle of doom when it *is* installed18:27
tycale_J: I'm on kubuntu 7.1018:28
tycale_I've to donwload 1800mo for the update18:28
tycale_Oo18:28
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Jtycale_: /me trying to remember if it prompts.  Can't remember, sorry.  But I upgraded trom 7.10 to 8.04 and kept kde318:29
Kreddwidmann: ok got it installed and working. Thanks!18:29
tycale_But I've kde4 and 3 actually18:30
tycale_on my computer18:30
tycale_I don't understand why I've to download 1800 mo18:30
davfI'm having trouble with compiz loading on kubuntu 8.04 and nvidia.18:30
tycale_It's really big =|18:30
SlimeyPetetycale_: that includes updates for all the software you have installed via adept18:31
dwidmanntycale_: well, once you factor in all of the extra packages you have installed, it really starts to add up fast, I think KDE4 itself with only default packages is >300MB18:31
SlimeyPeteI had to download 1200MB18:31
tycale_ho, ok18:31
Jtycale_: yeah, took a few hours for my laptop to upgrade, but it's not a fast machine and the slow download didn't help :/18:31
tycale_ok18:31
tycale_ty18:32
stefan-fHello all :)18:33
stefan-fsince my upgrade to hardy yesterday I hav no sound18:33
stefan-fdrivers are gone18:33
kubuntuterohi18:34
stefan-fcan somene help18:34
stefan-f?18:34
dwidmannstefan-f: do you know what sound card it is18:35
stefan-flspci gives me :18:36
stefan-f0:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)18:36
o0Chris0owhat is the name in adebt for the extra screensavers for kde?18:37
edoceoHow do I get dpkg to re-configure my KDE3?18:38
o0Chris0owhere do I find the "B II" window decoration?18:42
JoshOvkihow do you find out what the name of the workgroup you are connect to is?18:43
vbgunzhow do you play a simple vob file? I think upgrading to hardy may have broken my vob playback :/18:44
JoshOvkivbgunz: install VLC18:45
jessica_what command restarts your network ?18:45
Jjessica_: sudo /etc/init.d networking restart18:46
flaccidjessica_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart18:46
dustrialpls hlp, i need to get back the original files in "/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/sound/"18:46
jessica_thanks18:46
heathWhat's the command to get a disk UUID?18:50
jessica_when i plug my bluetooth adapter in the bluetooth tools dont apper18:50
stefan-f!medibuntu18:51
ubot5medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:51
dwidmannIs there any way to quiet down the output of umount, I tried doing > /dev/null but it's still printing to the screen :(18:54
alanxhi, everybody, greetings from guatemala18:54
heathdwidmann: is the disk in fstab?18:55
ubuntuhi18:55
dwidmannheath: shouldn't matter, I'm trying to shut up its output including errors ....18:55
heathoh...18:55
trappistdwidmann: > will only redirect stdout - you're seeing stderr18:56
dwidmanntrappist: I figured as much, is there anything I can do about it?18:56
trappistdwidmann: umount ... 2&>/dev/null if I remember right18:56
dwidmannSo what is the 2& doing exactly?18:56
spykedtomaton00b question - I'm trying to upgrade from cd, typed kdesu "/cdrom/cdromupgrade", get a "command not found" error - whassup with that?18:57
Jdwidmann: IIRC stderr is 2.  Stdout is 1.  So >/dev/null could be written 1&>/dev/null18:57
daemon3Has anyone had their nvidia Geforce drivers messed up after the Hardy upgrade?18:57
trappistdwidmann: stderr and stdout are file descriptors.  2 is stderr.18:58
allhi everyone18:58
sigma_1234thumbs up to konqueror kde4. it opens my internet banking site perfectly19:00
dwidmanntrappist, doesn't seem to be working, it says "2 not found" or similar19:00
trappistdwidmann: actually just &> should redirect stderr and stdout19:00
sigma_1234kde3 needed a useragent change to be invoked19:01
spykedtomatocan anyone help me with the correct command to  upgrade from cd?19:01
trappistdwidmann: looks like I didn't quite remember it right :)19:01
kubuntuterodwidmann: 2>&1 > /dev/null19:01
trappistdwidmann: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html19:01
allanyone witha  nvidia 770 that can put work in kubuntu?19:01
kubuntuterohi alanx19:01
sigma_1234nvidia 770?19:02
kubuntuterospykedtomato: try apt-cdrom19:02
kubuntuterosigma_1234: Sweet. It's only going to get beter :019:02
dwidmannkubuntutero: will try19:02
allGeForce 770019:02
allI have a Asus A8jS but i install Ubuntu and everything works nice for me, but in Kubuntu not realy :S19:03
sigma_1234tell me about it. i cant wait till 4.1. just wish i could log off19:03
dwidmannkubuntutero: "umount: /dev/null not mounted"19:03
fablehello!19:04
sigma_1234!nvidia19:04
ubot5For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:04
kubuntuterodwidmann: what did you type ?19:04
kubuntuterosigma_1234: You can't log out of the site ?19:04
fablehow can i set the start-up application on kubuntu?!19:04
kubuntutero!autostart19:04
ubot5To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html19:04
dwidmannumount /var/cache/apt/archives 2>&1 /dev/null19:04
sigma_1234you can install kubuntu in ubuntu. you do know that?19:05
kubuntuterodwidmann: forgot something19:05
allnoo how can i do that?19:05
kubuntutero!kubuntu19:05
ubot5Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE19:05
dwidmannkubuntutero: you did or I did?19:05
kubuntutero!kde19:05
ubot5KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.19:05
kubuntuterodwidmann: you did19:05
kubuntuteroall ^^^19:05
alli like the interface of KDE, but i like more of the Ubuntu cuiz look more compatibel with my PC19:05
kubuntuteroYou have a brown PC?19:05
dwidmannkubuntutero: and what might that be?19:06
kubuntuterodwidmann: > before /dev/null19:06
dwidmannkubuntutero: another one? okay19:06
allso if the kubuntu is = to ubuntu, only change the Gnome to KDE, so the fact that my grafic dont work well here as work in ubuntu its because the KDE?!19:07
dwidmannkubuntutero: /etc/init.d/mount-nfs.sh: 10: Syntax Error: redirection unexpected19:07
kubuntuterodwidmann: woah let me see what you typed in now19:07
khaleel5000hello, i have kubuntu 8.04 , I cant move my PS2 mouse, how do i configure that?19:08
dwidmannkubuntutero: umount /var/cache/apt/archives 2>&1> /dev/null19:08
khaleel5000the arrow is just there not moving. (my mouse works fine, tested in pclinuxos 2007 which I dual boot with kubuntu19:09
kubuntuterodwidmann: nope space between the 1 and >19:09
inteliwaspto install from source i need to use "sudo" on ./configure make and make install?19:09
kubuntuterothat does something else19:09
dwidmannkubuntutero: curse sh for being so picky19:09
SlimeyPeteinteliwasp: you only need sudo for "make install"19:09
kubuntuterointeliwasp: the package should have a README or an INSTALL file. Follow those instructions19:09
kubuntuterodwidmann: Well you are telling it to do that :)19:09
allso if i install ubuntu and then install the KDE under the ubuntu dont will be a probleam?19:10
SlimeyPeteall: no problem. Just install "kubuntu-desktop".19:10
inteliwaspwould i mess up anything if i did use sudo on all 3?19:10
kubuntuterointeliwasp: permissions maybe but unlikely19:10
dwidmannkubuntutero: problem: script isn't bombing with a syntax error now, but umount is still printing out the blahblahblah is not mounted messages that I want it to ignore in the event it's already unmounted19:10
kubuntutero..19:10
kubuntuteroit's not supposed to print anything after that19:11
allthat way i can have the best of the two :D, lets take a try then19:11
dwidmannone sec, pastebin to the rescue19:11
dwidmannkubuntutero: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1441fdfd19:13
Ahmuckdoes hardy use alsa, or pulseaudio?19:13
Ahmuckfor kubuntu19:14
SlimeyPetealsa19:14
Ahmuckso what is pulseaudio on kubuntu19:15
SlimeyPetepulseaudio is used in kde4 but it does not replace alsa19:15
SlimeyPeteit runs on top of alsa19:15
SlimeyPeteit's like artsd in kde319:15
kubuntuterodwidmann: fine try 2> /dev/null19:15
SlimeyPeteat least I think it's used in kde419:16
SlimeyPeteor.... is it phonon19:16
cinexhi19:16
kubuntuteroPhonon19:16
SlimeyPeteyeah, it's phonon I think19:16
SlimeyPeteagain, it runs on top of ALSA19:16
SlimeyPetealsa is a lower-level thing19:16
* kubuntutero tapes up SlimeyPete's fingers19:17
dwidmannwait ...... it actually worked that time :O19:17
kubuntuterodwidmann: I know19:17
khaleel5000how do you configure mouse on kubuntu>19:17
khaleel5000?19:17
kubuntuterokhaleel5000: system settings -> mouse19:17
khaleel5000kubuntutero: thanks19:18
stefan-fhmm, where can I find the alsa-driver?19:18
stefan-fI mean in which repo?19:18
stefan-f!alsa19:18
ubot5If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP319:18
dwidmannkubuntutero: hm, my ifstate test isn't liking me  ... seems knetworkmanager might be skooting past it >.<19:18
dwidmannkubuntutero: or in some way shape or form ifstate isn't being kept up to date :(19:20
* Aelwyn está ausente: Ausente por ahora.19:20
_eMaX_anyone here using eclipse on hardy/compiz?19:20
kubuntuteroProbably knetworkmanager19:21
kubuntuteroDon't know if there is a way to sync them19:21
dwidmannkubuntutero: do you know of a better network connectivity test I might be able to use?19:22
trappistdwidmann: seems hackish, but when I script stuff like that I figure if I can ping google I'm online, and if I can't I'm not19:22
khaleel5000kubuntutero: I am in kubuntu, my mouse is still not working , where do I configure it?19:23
khaleel5000system settings -->mouse only lets to tweak it, my mouse isint even moving19:24
dwidmanntrappist: hmm, I've an idea, but would something like "ping -c1 terra" return a different exit status if it failed to ping?19:24
kubuntuterokhaleel5000: was it moving at the login screen?19:24
kubuntuterodwidmann: test it19:24
kubuntuteroecho $?19:25
trappistdwidmann: I get an exit status of 2 for unknown host19:25
khaleel5000not moving in login screen nor in the kde environment after I log in19:25
Jdwidmann: what does sudo ethtool eth[?] return for link detected?19:25
kubuntuterothat gives you the exit status19:25
kubuntuterokhaleel5000: ... hmm is it configured in your X ?19:25
khaleel5000I dont know, how do i find it ?19:25
kubuntuterothough I honestly don't know how to do that in the new X19:25
kubuntuterosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg normally19:26
kubuntutero!mouse19:26
ubot5Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto19:26
kubuntuteroNope :-(19:26
AdmiralNDPI'm using the latest Kubuntu with KDE 4. How do I get Sysgaurd back in the toolbar?19:26
khaleel5000kubuntutero: do you have a ps2 mouse?19:26
khaleel5000kubuntutero: if you have it, copy and paste the xorg's part for mouse at some place19:27
=== wesley is now known as wesley_kde4
cinex!paste19:27
ubot5pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:27
dwidmann_laptopJ: http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3f0e0d1819:27
trappistdoes the nfs kernel module not get loaded at boot in hardy?19:27
kubuntuteroNope USB mouse right now19:28
kubuntutero I have PS/2 mouse somewhere19:28
kubuntuterokhaleel5000: it should ask you about your mouse during that setup19:28
Jdwidmann_laptop: doesn't link detected: yes give you enough info?  Or am I missing what you want to work out...?19:28
khaleel5000kubuntutero: i had tried sudo dpkg...it didnt,let me check again19:29
dwidmannJ: well I wasn't really familiar with that command ...19:29
=== pete051 is now known as Pete051
Pete051evening folk19:29
Jdwidmann: 's OK - there's 1000's I don't know :)  ethtool is really good when you need to force stuff like speed.  But is that link detected what you want to know?19:30
khaleel5000kubuntutero: didnt ask for mouse, just kernel frame buffer, and keyboard19:31
khaleel5000kubuntutero: i used sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xog in debian , i know it does ask but it didnt here19:31
o0Chris0owhats the name of the background widget for weather?19:31
Jis there anyone who might have some pointers wrt the power/log off issue I asked about?  Please? :)19:32
tycale_hum19:33
tycale_I stop the upgrade distrib19:33
steevchaving a few issues with my upgrade to Hardy. no graphical login, but I can do startx. this time I can't get a mouse pointer19:33
tycale_Now in adept, i've just a lot of .deb to download19:33
=== kubuntutero is now known as DASkreech
bibekhi my screen resolution is 600x48019:34
bibek:(19:34
bibekand the monitor and display doesnot have option to increase, 600x480 is the only available resolution19:35
hydrogen     get a bigger monitor?19:35
bibekhydrogen: its a 15inch monitor19:35
bibekwell actually i think the monitor is not detected, my vga card is detected as 945 but monitor "plug n play"19:36
cinexanyone know of the top of their heads the module to allow amd x2 cpu stepping ?19:37
steevcany ideas on how to get the KDE mouse back? moving the mouse does highlight things on the task bar but hard to click accurately19:38
gemidjykdenlive in hardy heron crashes on start. anyone knows something more about this?19:39
bentob0xHow to modify the screen resolution of X when kdm_greet is on?19:50
dwidmannJ: well, if what it does is see if the link is up then yes19:51
dwidmannand it's time for me to take my desktop and laptop down for hardware upgrades, yay :)19:51
dwidmannJ: all that really matters is that my laptop can reach my desktop19:53
=== mikko is now known as Miksakki
dianhi19:58
dianhow can i install mozila19:58
dianor skype ?19:58
dian6.1019:58
dian:")19:58
dianof kubuntu19:58
DASkreech!skype19:58
ubot5To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto19:58
JoshOvki!pastebin20:00
ubot5pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)20:00
dian:)20:00
dianhow can i turn on my compiz ?20:00
dianthere is compiz right20:00
dian?20:00
DASkreechdian: you may want to update that Kubuntu btw20:00
DASkreechwhy are you on Edgy?20:00
diani am doing it right now20:01
dian192 packeges upgrading20:01
dian:)20:01
patch!nvidia20:02
ubot5For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto20:02
dianhey guys i dont know how to do that20:02
dianSkype Repository20:02
patchAre there any procedures if the restricted drivers basically make your X session unusable provides just a black screen20:03
dianhey20:05
bentob0xHow to modify the screen resolution of X when kdm_greet is on?20:05
dianhow to turn on compix20:05
bentob0xthe login screen basically20:05
patchdian: system>Desktop Effects20:07
dianpatch:  there is no Desktop effects there20:08
=== emonkey-t is now known as emonkey
patchdian: sudo apt-get install compiz20:09
neo_hola20:10
neo_saludo20:10
dianpatch:  E: Couldn't find package compiz20:11
patchhave you done a apt-get update?20:11
neo_byte20:12
dianno[e20:12
dianjust instralled20:12
patchsudo apt-get update20:12
dianhow to update it ?20:12
dianpatch:  did it and the same20:13
dianno compiz20:13
jonfhancockhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion20:13
DASkreech!upgrade20:13
ubot5For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes20:13
=== soniczny is now known as CoCaInE
dwidmannI wonder if my laptop will still love me20:16
jonfhancockpatch: boot to command line, and roll back your xorg.conf file.20:18
dwidmannYay, she does :) she does :) ... 4096MB memory20:20
ALLptCan anyone tell me the link to install KDE in ubuntu?20:21
DASkreech!kde20:21
ubot5KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.20:21
cinexALLpt: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:21
cinexALLpt: that is for kde3 for kde4 it is kubuntu-kde4-desktop or something20:21
DASkreech!KDE is KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.9 in Hardy, 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.20:21
ALLpti went to the synaptic and then select the KDE20:22
ALLptand now is downlaoding, hope i select the right one20:22
cinexkubuntu-desktop installs everything you need20:22
ALLptin the instalation say 317 files so i hope that is this one :)20:23
TeslaTonyALLpt: That'll give you the desktop environment. Not a bad option, but if you want all the programs, too, just install kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop when you're done20:23
ALLpti dont want the kde programs, in fact i like more the gnome programs20:23
ALLpti only want the blue, the icons and all that20:24
ALLptin that point i think that gnome is not very good :S20:24
jonfhancockvisual appeal you mean?20:24
ALLptyap, thats right20:24
DASkreechALLpt: just change the Gnome theme to a blue one then20:25
TeslaTonyGotta love linux...don't like something? Choose something else.20:25
ALLpti already try find one that i like, but keep think that KDE look better :D20:25
Fait's all about freedom and choice20:25
=== gonzo is now known as H_Gonzo
ALLptwell i will try KDE here, and then lets see20:26
Fakde 4 keeps on crashing on me when i use kvirc20:26
H_Gonzohi everyone, I have a pcmcia-soundcard question20:26
kreibpossible to set konversation to autoconncet on start?20:26
ALLptits why Linux rocks, we have so lot of options, the probleam some times is select one20:26
kreibon computer boot I mean20:27
cinexkreib: ~/.kde/Autostart20:27
cinexyou could put a link to it in there20:27
H_Gonzobasically, an audigy pcmcia is detected during hardy's bootable cd start, but once it's installed to the hard drive, the soundcard isn't running anymore20:28
kreibok, so then konversation starts up, but can I make it automatically connect to channels?20:28
cinex oh I dunno20:28
=== nicolas_ is now known as pousspouss
H_Gonzohas someone had a similar issue?20:30
jhutchins_wkkreib: Check the "Connect on application startup" box for each server you want to connect to.20:30
jonfhancockkreib: you set that up from within konversations20:30
kreibncie, tha20:30
kreibthx20:30
ALLptafter install, how i can run KDE?20:30
ALLpti already see all the programs and all that, but my desktop keep in Gnome20:31
jonfhancockkreib: and add the channels you want to the auto join channels section20:31
jonfhancockALLpt: logout, then select KDE from session types20:31
jonfhancockthen log back in20:31
ALLptok i will try20:31
ALLpttks20:31
Fa;)20:31
jessica_what dose grub error 21 mean20:33
SJrXAs soon as I login via KDM, for some reason my desktop resolution switches to something ridiculous and I have to switch it back everytime20:34
H_Gonzono audigy then :( I'll check the forums20:34
SJrXHow can I fix this, as it's REALLY annoying.20:34
jonfhancockSJrX: check your settings in xorg.conf20:35
SJrXit's not when I boot x, it's when I login.20:35
SJrXkdm is fine.20:35
=== jonilson is now known as jonilson_
sait8soKDE question: How to set defaults in KFind? I'd like the default search to start in "/" instead of "file:///home/myname"  Any help appreciated.20:39
geniiSJrX: Basically, 2 options. 1) Enable session to be saved so that whatever resolution its set when you logoff reappears or   2) make top resolution the (non rediculous) one you want in the xorg.conf20:39
SJrXHow do I enable the session to be saved20:40
jonfhancockSJrX: system settings20:40
jonfhancock-> KDE Components20:41
jonfhancock-> Session Manager20:41
jonfhancockcheck "Restor previous session"20:41
jonfhancockApply20:41
SJrXThat is already checked jonfhancock20:44
SJrXthe obsured resolution is 1280x1024 fyi20:44
jonfhancockhmm.. try checking "Restore manually saves session"20:44
SJrXI even changed it in Size & Orientation, and set "Apply settings on KDE Startup" and it didn't do it20:44
jonfhancockthen restart x and see what happens20:44
jonfhancockSJrX: what is your video card? and any special monitor setup?20:45
SJrXvmware20:45
jonfhancockah20:45
jessica_what dose error 21 mean and how can i fix it20:46
jonfhancockhmm.. I haven't run kubuntu in vmware.  or kde at all...20:46
jessica_in grub20:46
cinexjessica_: google it20:46
jessica_ok20:46
SJrXIt's profile specific20:47
SJrXit only affects my user, the other user doesn't have this switch.20:47
SJrXIt also affects KDE 3.5 and KDE 420:47
jonfhancockvery strange20:47
SJrXIt doesn't affect Failsafe20:49
SJrXhmmm  maybe this is a KDE question20:49
cinex?20:49
rfranciscoyes20:49
rfranciscogirls20:50
sait8sojessica_: try here: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm20:50
sait8sojessica_: its an exellent grub page20:51
bananeHi, where do i find a pointer to Kubuntu 8.04 multimedia codec installation20:52
cinexhmm20:52
cinexbanane: you can get them from a repository20:52
cinexmedibuntu or soemthing20:53
jonfhancockbanane: you can still use automatix if you like that sort of thing20:53
sait8soany takers on the KFind question about setting the default?20:53
jonfhancocksait8so: I looked, but I couldn't find anything20:53
jonfhancocksait8so:20:53
jonfhancockerm.. oops20:53
sait8sojonfhancock: thanks, appreciate it. I found the same answer in other channels and forums ;)20:54
bananethanks cinex and jonfhancock. is it risky to use automatix ?20:54
jonfhancocksait8so: I may have an answer for you.20:54
jonfhancockbanane: automatix is going away soon20:54
bananeoh...20:54
bananewhy ?20:55
jhutchins_wk!bot20:55
ubot5I am ubot5, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new, gorgeous looks in the near future ;)20:55
cinexive never heard of automatix20:55
jonfhancockthe developers are moving to a diferent distro.20:55
jhutchins_wk!automatix20:55
ubot5Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »20:55
bananecan you please point me to the repository ?20:56
jhutchins_wkautomatix is a program that attempts to install and configure several packages and often breaks the system in the process.20:56
sait8sojonfhancock: anything you can suggest is appreciated20:56
cinexw32codecs libdvdcss2 is pretty much all you need possibly ffmpeg20:56
bananethanks cinex20:56
rfranciscowho has problem to install vmware on 8.0420:56
rfrancisco?20:56
jonfhancocksait8so: make a bash script called custom-kfind and use it to start kfind /20:56
jonfhancockthen symlink it into /usr/bin20:57
jonfhancockpastebin?20:57
dave11TCS labled the kubuntu 8.04 LTS..oops20:57
jonfhancockpastebin!20:57
jhutchins_wk!paste20:57
ubot5pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)20:57
jonfhancockthanks20:58
bananecinex how can i find the repository for w32codecs libdvdcss2 ?20:59
sait8sojonfhancock: I'll give it a try. Thanks!20:59
jonfhancockyou bet.  works for me20:59
ugacan anyone confirm that the new 8.04 CDs bundle OOo?21:03
ugaI'd like to setup a friend's box, but given he'll be lacking internet connection for a while, I'd like to make sure I have everything at hand21:04
uga(and koffice won't do it)21:04
jonfhancockuga: I'm afraid I don't recall.  LinuxMint does21:05
crimsunuga: KDE3 or the KDE4 remix?21:05
ugakde3 one. I want something stable21:05
Jucatouga: Kubuntu always ships with OOo21:06
Jucato(at least for KDE 3)21:06
ugathanks. This will save me some time21:06
DASkreechProbably will for KDE4 as well21:06
DASkreechwell 4.0 and 4.121:06
DASkreech Koffice is still a ways off21:06
crimsunyou can confirm with, say, http://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest21:06
ugayeah, but I don't want him to be using linux for first time with 4.021:06
ugathat'd scare him off21:06
ugaonce 4.1 is out, maybe21:07
DASkreech4.2 ftp!21:07
yoyomaare there any bugs regarding adding desktops to KDE (3) in 8.04?21:15
yoyomaI go to configure desktops, slide the slider to 4, hit apply, ok.... but it doesn't change anything21:17
Jucatousing compiz?21:17
yoyomayeah21:18
Jucatothat's the bug21:18
Jucatoer.. problem :)21:18
yoyomayou can't have multiple desktops while using compiz?21:18
DASkreechYou can but compiz does it's own thing21:19
yoyomawhat's the point of the cuve effect then?21:19
Jucatoyou can, but I think it's a bit screwy21:19
Jucatoyou'll have to ask in #compiz-fusion21:19
Jucatocompiz screws up KDE's virtual desktops21:19
yoyomaok21:19
cinexnot any more21:19
yoyomathanks!21:19
cinexthey fixed that21:19
Jucatotell that to yoyoma :)21:19
yoyomahehe21:20
cinexshe's too busy kicking y0momma's fac ein21:20
yoyomasure isn't working for me21:20
Jucatodo you have compiz-kicker installed? (or something like that)21:20
__-osh-__is there a vmware-server in new hardy? It must be present before I can upgrade...21:21
cinexive not got it installed - fresh install of hardy. I cant remeber what I had installed before21:21
cinexbu the pager was fine21:21
__-osh-__!vmware21:22
ubot5VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers21:22
yoyomaeh, i guess i'll try it later21:22
yoyomagotta go get groceries21:22
yoyomathanks21:22
__-osh-__Hmm, that info-bit was a bit old, no?21:23
uga__-osh-__: why not use VirtualBox instead21:23
uga!VirtualBox21:24
ubot5virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox21:24
__-osh-__uga: because I have a much needed windows vmware-image with all work related stuff on it.21:24
hydrogengdb in hardy is giving me this when I try to debug something...21:24
hydrogenwarning: Cannot initialize thread debugging library: generic error21:24
uga__-osh-__: hehe, what if I tell you there's online how-tos for converting vmware disks into virtualbox ones =)21:24
uga__-osh-__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMagazine/HowTo/Switching_From_VMWare_To_VirtualBox:_.vmdk_To_.vdi_Using_Qemu_+_VdiTool21:25
__-osh-__uga: it don't matter to me. If virtualbox does what vmware does then I'll use that. Is it equal to or better than vmware?21:25
ugait is, just the difference is 0$21:26
uga(legally)21:26
ugaand supports usb2 properly, which, I believe vmware barely manages yet =)21:26
__-osh-__uga: The guide is for vmware-player to virtualbox. Does it work with vmware-server too?21:27
uga__-osh-__: notice though, iirc ubuntu includes the non-usb version. download the full one from the site21:27
uga__-osh-__: oh, the -server version21:27
ugauhm... not sure21:27
ugaI guess the format should be the same for either workstation or server, but no idea really21:27
georgeplease may someone help me with instaling skype21:29
__-osh-__uga: so to be safe i should stay with vmware then... and will that show up in hardy?21:29
__-osh-__!skype21:29
ubot5To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto21:29
uga__-osh-__: I haven't used vmware for ages, and on this 64bit box at least, apt doesn't show it21:30
__-osh-__george: might be what you need?21:30
__-osh-__uga: i think it used to be in a "partner" repo.21:31
georgemmm no21:31
george:(21:31
georgewrong architecture i38621:31
georgeza 64bit ubuntu21:31
georgefor 64bit ubuntu21:31
__-osh-__george: cant help you then. dont use skype.21:31
georgeseriozly?21:32
ugageorge: most 32 bit apps jsut work fine on 64bit boxes21:32
ugayoujust need to force the install21:32
georgewhat do you meen21:33
georgeforce the install21:33
georgesorry but english is not my 1st language21:33
ugageorge: when you try to install, you get an error21:33
ugaread the help it points you to21:33
__-osh-__george: yeah, seriously. I have a regular mobile phone that my company pais for. not much need for skype...21:33
__-osh-__s/pais/pays/g21:34
JoshOvki!pastebin21:34
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uga!force21:34
ubot5Factoid force not found21:34
__-osh-__uga: thanks for your help. need to rest now. back another day...21:36
georgei dont need skype for calls21:36
georgei have 2 mobile telefons21:36
georgein my contry there is no irc server21:36
__-osh-__george: what for then?21:36
georgeto keep tuch in time my friends21:37
ugageorge: dpkg --force-help21:37
ugatype that and read21:37
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george10x21:37
georgei see...but i still dont know where is the mistake21:38
georgewhen i try to install skype21:38
ugawhat happens when you try to install it21:38
georgeit show me "wrong architecture i386"21:38
ugaso just force it to install, the error line explains you how to =)21:39
chosigI think I've found a blocker bug in the new amd64 8.04 remix version... I've done a base install, nothing fancy - after reboot it refused to start X because displayconfig-gtk was missing.21:39
ugajsut force the architecture =)21:39
chosigHad to reboot in to rescue and manually install it21:39
george:)21:39
wesleywhere are kernels to installed ?21:40
ugageorge: sorry, not sure how to translate RTFM to bulgarian ;)21:40
georgeit means?21:40
georgei will translate it21:40
ugaerrrm..l. Roses To Females Maybe21:41
ugageorge: "Reat the Fucking Manual" =)21:41
ugas/Reat/Read21:41
georgexaxaax21:41
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georgethis is my first time on Obuntu21:41
georgesorry...21:42
george:(21:42
ugathe thing I pointed to you is the manual though21:42
ugadpkg --help-force21:42
ugaexplains you how to force packages to install even if an error happens21:42
ugaand the error tells you what to force21:42
ugacan't combine both? =)21:42
georgeok thak you21:42
george:)21:42
ugaI prefer teaching hunting for food, rather than giving food21:43
georgeRozi i za teb uga :))21:43
wesleycan someone tell me the dir of where the kernels are being installed21:44
_phoenix_where can i get the code from kopete21:44
uga_phoenix_: svn.kde.org21:44
Jucato_phoenix_: kopete source code?21:44
K4k-laptophow do I install a new theme in kde4?21:45
_phoenix_yes21:45
K4k-laptopI downloaded the ktheme .gz file but I can't seem to find where to install it21:45
_phoenix_the source21:45
Jucato_phoenix_, uga: or "apt-get source kopete" :)21:45
Jucato(if you want the Kubuntu version)21:45
_phoenix_where i can find the code after downloading21:45
ugaJucato: if he wants to code, I'd rather have him do so in the real source ;)21:45
taghasien007i need help i have HDD locked in the bios is there any solution please21:46
Jucatouga: well it is the real source too :P21:46
uga_phoenix_: it doesn't install the source by default21:46
kalle__Cheers21:46
Jucato_phoenix_: in the directory where you ran apt-get source21:46
ugaJucato: yes, of course, if kubuntu devs remember feedign the stuff back upstram21:46
ugaupstream21:46
Jucato:D21:46
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taghasien007 i need help i have HDD locked in the bios is there any solution please21:47
JucatoK4k-laptop: kthemes or .kth themes don't work in KDE 421:47
H_Gonzohi, I would need some help with an audigy pcmcia soundcard. Can someone help, please?21:47
kallepersson_Is there any way to map right mouse button as ctrl+left mouse button ?21:47
K4k-laptopJucato, then I guess it was mis-labeled in kde-look.org21:47
JucatoK4k-laptop: what does it say?21:48
chosigtaghasien007: try removing the battery from the mobo, it might help - but it might also destroy it too...21:48
K4k-laptopJucato, what does what say?21:48
ugaJucato: it's possibly a plasma theme21:48
Jucato<K4k-laptop> Jucato, then I guess it was mis-labeled in kde-look.org <---21:48
_phoenix_what must i type in in apt-get to make my gcc able to compile it?21:48
Jucatouga: he said ktheme21:48
ugaJucato: bet a pizza? =)21:48
K4k-laptopJucato, it's listed under the kde4 themes21:48
ugaK4k-laptop: which one is it21:49
K4k-laptopwhen I unzipped it it's a .ktm extension21:49
Jucatouga: how should I know? I don't have the link21:49
K4k-laptoperm...kollide21:49
JucatoI'm only basing it on what he said21:49
_phoenix_what must i type in in apt-get to make my gcc able to compile it?21:50
ugaoh21:50
ugaJucato: it seems to be a style21:50
Jucatoif you say so21:50
ugahttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/kollide?content=7529521:50
ugawell, style, plus wallpaper, plus... etc etc21:51
_sourcemakerI try to install the vmware server but I receive a compile error while compiling the vmware module21:51
* Jucato doesn't trust kde-look.org "labels"21:51
will00ey im using a mini itx mobo, and iv installed kubuntu, but i get these vertical like vibrating lines across the screen, any idea as to the problem?21:51
taghasien007THANKS CHOSIG the password is in stcked in the hdd i trayd an usb external case but it is impossible to acces or format the hdd21:51
ugaJucato: it's under "theme-manager theme"21:51
taghasien007HANKS CHOSIG the password is in stcked in the hdd i trayd an usb external case but it is impossible to acces or format the hdd21:52
ugano idea what a theme manager is, but sounds like some generic style set that uses pixmaps21:52
Jucatouga: * Jucato doesn't trust kde-look.org "labels"21:52
Jucatokthememanager doesn't exist in kde4 afaik21:52
ugaJucato: who said that I said that it was for kde421:52
ugaI only said where kollide was =))21:52
Jucato<K4k-laptop> how do I install a new theme in kde4?21:53
georgedont mess with uga !:))21:53
ugalol21:53
Jucatoright... be he's allowed to mess with me?21:53
ugaJucato: okay, he did, I didn't. Blame him for incorrect information ;P21:54
ugaJucato: K4k-laptop != uga21:54
chosigtaghasien007: then i don't have a clue, try googling21:54
K4k-laptopyea, I'm mainly just wondering how to do it, I found most of them are .deb packages, but I remember with kthememanager it had an "install new theme" button which I don't see in the new theme manager21:54
ugaJucato: I didn't mess with you. I just told you what it was21:54
Jucatouga: where was I blaming you?21:54
JucatoK4k-laptop: yeah, in KDE 321:54
K4k-laptopright...21:55
K4k-laptopso, does anyone know if you can even install new 3rd party themes in kde4?21:55
K4k-laptopor have they locked you out of that ability21:55
ugaK4k-laptop: you can install plasma themes21:55
K4k-laptopah, ok, thank you21:56
JucatoK4k-laptop: there's just no kthememanager... doesn't mean it's impossible to change themes21:56
K4k-laptopalright21:56
bananei installed the codecs now in hardy, but sound in vlc and mplayer is extremely faint ...21:56
Jucatobut, since KDE 4 is based on Qt 4, KDE 3 widget styles would not work in KDE 421:56
Jucatoso there might be a lack of widget styles for KDE 4 for a while. same with window decorations (I think)21:57
ugaK4k-laptop: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=7621:57
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JucatoKDE 4 also follows a different icon naming specification (from FreeDesktop.org), which means that old icont themes might not work too21:57
_sourcemaker!pastebin21:59
ubot5pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)21:59
chosigIsn't there plugins for konqueror aviable, like the ones for firefox?22:00
o0Chris0oshould install pastebinit :) even easier!22:00
_sourcemakerVMWare compile error... what's wrong again? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/5322:01
Jucatochosig: what kind of plugins?22:01
chosigJucato: at the moment an adblocker :)22:02
JucatoKonq has a builtin Adblock Filter22:02
Jucatonot exactly like Firefox's, but still...22:02
chosigoh...22:03
chosigmouse gestures would be nice too :)22:03
JucatoKDE has builtin gestures, not just for Konqueror22:04
chosigJucato: another "oh"... it seems like it's been a long time since i used kde...22:06
JucatoKDE has had that for a long time I believe... under Input Actions22:06
chosigJucato: i think last time i used kde was somewhere in the 2.x version22:08
Jucatoah fair enough :)22:09
JucatoGestures howto: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.022:09
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chosigJucato: thanks22:11
ddahlwhat kind of Desktop Environment are you using then?22:11
chosigJucato: oh, all is so much easier now... i didn't even have scour the net for drivers - all is auto-recognized and configured by default (and you can even set no anti-alias range w/o  attacking fonts.conf!) I've live too long in a shell ;P22:13
Jucato:D22:13
egorkI would like to move a menu option "switch to online/offline mode" of the network kde panel applet to the first menu level. Where should I start looking for the information on how to do it? I can program and complie etc. but do not know what would be the most economic way to do it.22:13
Danish989quick question :  For playing music, which one is the best: Music Player Daemon, AmaroK or Listen?22:14
chosigDanish989: it depends on how you listen and how much "bling" you want :P22:17
Jucato!best | Danish98922:17
ubot5Danish989: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:17
chosigDanish989: from what i've seen amarok seems nice though... but mpd works really good, and is easily remote controlled from work ;)22:17
yoyomacan i use the xfce login screen as the default login screen, even though it's not my default GUI (KDE3 is)?22:18
chosigyoyoma: yes, just choose kde as yoru default session (although, i think xfce uses gdm (gnome's display manager), or am i wrong?922:19
Jucatoyoyoma: yeah. Xfce (or rather Xubuntu) uses GDM, same as GNOME22:19
yoyomahmm... i'm wanting to retain KDE3 as my default environment when I login, but I like the look and feel of the xfce login prompt better.  where do i choose my login prompt?22:20
JucatoO.o22:21
gemidjykdenlive in hardy heron crashes on start. anyone knows something more about this?22:21
Jucatoyoyoma: what do you mean "choose my login prompt"?22:21
yoyomaJucato: when you power on the machine, you get a prompt asking for username/password, and session type22:22
yoyomaJucato:  I currently have the KDE4 prompt, and would like the xfce one instead22:22
Jucatodo you have gdm installed too?22:22
yoyomai have xfce installed22:22
Jucatowell check if you have the gdm package :)22:23
chosigyoyoma: apt-cache policy gdm22:23
yoyomai have it installed22:23
Jucatoif it's installed. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm" should ask you if you want to use kdm or gdm22:23
yoyomaxdm is not installed22:24
Jucatodid you try the command?22:24
yoyomayeah... the output is "xdm is not insatlled"22:25
Jucatohm...22:25
Jucatohold on22:25
Jucatomight be sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm.... I'll have to test first22:25
yoyomaok.  i'm going to go move a couch for my wife... brb22:26
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chosigstrange to have more than a maximized putty/screen session... there's colors :)22:26
poseidonWhats a good program for image burning (cd's)22:27
egorkwhere to start looking for the info on how to hack the kde menu applets?22:27
Jucatoposeidon: k3b22:27
Jucatoegork: which applets?22:27
egorkJucato, in this specific case kde network manager applet22:28
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Jucatoegork: hm.. I didn't know there was such an applet. but anyway, you'll have to look at the source code to hack it :/22:33
Jucatoyoyoma: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm22:33
yoyomaok22:33
TeslaTonyI'm not getting any sound in flash (sometimes), and the only fixes I'm finding are for 64 bit systems (mines 32) or for Feisty. Anyone know how to fix this?22:33
yoyomaallrighty, an X restart in 5...4...3...2...1...22:34
egorkJucato, source code, sure. Do you have any hint for me on how to do it in a most lazy way? I would hate to recompile whole KDE.22:35
Jucatoyou won't have to recompile whole KDE.. just kdebase mostly :)22:35
Jucatoyou can try search for a guide about kicker in techbase.kde.org22:35
JucatoI think there's one there22:35
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yoyomais this the proper output:  invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.22:36
egorkJucato, aha this is already something to start with.22:36
_sourcemakerwhy are there so many vmware problems in the new hardy distribution?22:40
_sourcemakerI can install the vmware server product22:40
arc_shmoohow do i get ndiswrapper configured right? ive installed it and its front-end gui as well as the windows driver to go with it now what?22:42
HunterSThompsonhave there been no updates in the past week?22:44
HunterSThompson...or how can I upgrade from cd22:48
LeeJunFananyone else having issues with hardy on the laptop randomly suspending to ram?22:50
psycoZOMG KDE 4.1 ALPHA RELEASED ^^22:51
LeeJunFansweet. I still can't stand using 4.022:51
pietje_phuckLeeJunFan: why are you using it then?22:52
pietje_phuckLeeJunFan: :)22:52
LeeJunFanI'm not22:52
pietje_phuckok22:52
pietje_phuckme neither22:53
LeeJunFanI was quite disappointed at their presentation of a "finished product".22:53
pietje_phuckI did not even bother to try when they said it was not going to be long term support22:54
pietje_phuckI trust them enough to listen when they indicate it is crap22:54
dwidmannpietje_phuck: the kde4 kubuntu doesn't even have short term support, community support only.22:54
pietje_phuckdwidmann: That bad eh.....22:55
psycohehe22:55
psycoI sparked a conversation ^^22:55
dwidmannpsyco: congratulations22:55
will00does anyone know why kubuntu would display vertical lines?22:56
psycoI am incredibly excited.22:56
psyco:O And you can run it on windows :S22:56
pietje_phuckI was impressed by the install though, everything worked, just had to select my monitor after the install as it picked the default monitor22:56
pietje_phuckpsyco: kde yeah22:57
psycopietje_phuck: For 4.0 or 4.1?22:57
pietje_phuckfor 3.922:57
psycoah22:57
psycoWhy is the source code link broken :'(22:58
pietje_phuckHey this was the easiest install of kubuntu in a long time22:58
psycohttp://www.kde.org/info/info/4.0.71.php22:58
pietje_phuckwas thinking of looking at a new distro after 7.1022:58
pietje_phuckbut this one went smooth, smooth enough to recommend it to windoze users22:59
pietje_phuckif any of the developers are here, thanx23:00
dwidmannpsyco: blame bill gates23:00
psycoXD23:00
psycowell duh ^^23:00
will00does anyone know why kubuntu displays flickering vertical lines?23:04
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yao_ziyuanhow to start adept-manager for upstream packages?23:12
punkhallo23:16
will00ey whenever i restart my computer, my im accounts are all reset, and my virtual desktops return to the default (2) rather than the 5 i use23:17
will00whats the issue with that?23:17
punkdont know23:17
punksorry23:17
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punk__qwertyuiop[]23:18
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dwidmannwill00: come to think of it, my KDE4 Kopete reset its accounts once .... I had to set things back up this morning and I don't know why.23:19
will00this is an issue im havin with pidgin23:19
will00as well as skype23:20
will00and keytough23:20
dwidmannhmm23:20
dwidmannwill00: the flickering lines is probably a video driver issue23:21
jonfhancockwill00: what version of ubutnu and kde are you using?23:21
will00im using kubuntu 8.04 and the latest kde323:21
jonfhancockhmm23:22
punks_not_dead2 bomber : hallo23:22
will00jonfhancock, im using this on a little embedded mini itx, its go sis mirage1 graphics, could that be a problem?23:22
jonfhancockfor your flickering lines, probably23:23
jonfhancockthe other stuff is odd though23:23
jonfhancockwhat kind of disk is it?23:23
punks_not_dead2 niraj1234 : hi23:23
will00its just the regular i386 live disk23:24
jonfhancockah23:24
jonfhancockit's not installed on anything?23:24
jonfhancockyou're booting off the live disk every time?23:25
will00well no, the problem exists on the cf install too, but im tryin different oses, but they all seem to have the same issue23:25
jonfhancockIt may be a problem with retaining information on your cf23:26
jonfhancockcan you install to a usb disk and see if it persists?23:26
will00but then why would it show up on the live cd too?23:26
will00ill see23:26
will00but i dont think i have a usb disk that big23:26
will00nope i dont23:26
jonfhancockhmm.  no external drive either huh?23:27
punks_not_dead2 will00 if u use liveCd any settings are saved23:27
will00yes but its got valuable data on it23:27
kubuntuanyone secssfuly install flyback23:27
jonfhancockwill00: I see23:27
jonfhancockpunks_not_dead: where are those settings saved exactly?23:28
will00ah i think i found a solution23:29
jonfhancockwill00: cool. what did you find?23:29
will00http://davidjmoore.com/2008/01/27/how-to-get-the-sis-mirage-1-graphics-chip-to-work-with-ubuntu/23:29
will00its exactly the same chipset23:29
punks_not_deadif the system is running from CD settings are saved in some temporary folder23:29
kubuntudose "flyback" work on kubuntu23:30
punks_not_deadbut i dont know exactly23:30
kubuntuwho here got GTAV23:32
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fly_howdy folks23:42
john_what's the reason for wanting the kubuntu dvd over the cd?23:43
cinexmore apps23:43
john_there a list somewhere?23:43
cinexprobably23:43
fly_hey, is this the right place for advice on compiz questions in the new Hardy release?23:45
jonfhancockfly_: I'm still using gutsy, but fairly familiar with compiz23:47
jonfhancockask23:47
fly_ok, I installed Hardy (nice release, BTW) and when I enable the Compiz window manager, I lose my buttons and decorations on my windows. I installed the Emerald manager; is there something I've overlooked?23:49
jonfhancockfly_: what video card do you haveA?23:50
fly_Onboard Intel 915 (laptop).23:50
jonfhancockhmm  that is odd.23:50
jonfhancockintel's are the only thing I've got compiz working on without pulling hair out first23:51
fly_I know, because it worked OK with Feisty.23:51
fly_Is there a package I may be missing or forgot to enable?23:51
jonfhancockhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion23:52
jonfhancockand you followed that guide?23:52
jonfhancockroughtly?23:52
jonfhancocker.. roughly23:52
fly_No, I just went by the seat of the pants. I have used Compiz before, and it did something like that a while back, but I forgot how I fixed it (that was Beryl) OK I'll check the link you gave me.23:54
jonfhancockcompiz-kde maybe?23:54
fly_I DLed almost every Compiz package(except the development stuff) I wonder if i need to actually download some kind of Icon pack for the Emerald themes or something.23:56
jonfhancockhmm23:56
cinexfly you want the windows to look pretty?23:56
cinexfly_:23:57
fly_Yep, but it's not a big problem23:57
cinexthen yeah emerald themes are the way23:57
cinexaquamarine ?23:57
cinexaqua somehting23:57
jhutchins_wkfly_: Run the window decorator.23:57
jhutchins_wkWhichever you prefer.23:58
fly_I like the black glass looking one.23:58
jhutchins_wk!compiz23:58
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion23:58
silentwindsup sup23:58
nosrednaekim!webca,23:58
ubottuFactoid webca, not found23:58
silentwindwats going on??23:58
nosrednaekim!webcam23:58
ubottuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras23:58
silentwindjust found this chat stuff23:58
silentwindwats it going ?23:58
fly_Right, I did DL and install most all Compiz packages23:58
silentwindguys , how can i install messnger23:59
SlimeyPetehi silentwind. This is a support channel. For general chat, try #kubuntu-offtopic.23:59
silentwindlike msn , yahoo23:59
silentwind??23:59
SlimeyPeteit's a little bit like that, yes23:59
jhutchins_wkfly_: That will give you a recipie, including what to run.  I had the decorator crash on me several times when I messed with it, just ran it again.23:59
fly_J Hutchins:Are you John Hutchins?23:59
nosrednaekimsilentwind: use kopete23:59
jhutchins_wkfly_: Nope, Jonathan23:59

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