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huatsmorning everyone09:49
crevettehello12:46
crevettesalut huats12:46
crevettesalut seb12812:46
crevetteca va seb128 ? pas trop submergé ?12:47
crevettej'ai utilisé f-spot hier et la trad est desastreuse12:47
crevettej'ai pas regardé d'ou elle venait mais je pense que ca vient de launchpad,12:47
crevettej'essayerai de corriger ca ce soir parce que c'est pas top12:48
seb128lut crevette12:49
seb128crevette: y a pas mal de bugs mais ca va ;-)12:50
seb128crevette: et tout de suite à accuser launchpad, non ca vient d'upstream, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52967312:50
crevettepas les pb de string not traduites mais des traductions approximatives12:51
crevettej'avoue que j'ai pas chercher12:51
seb128crevette: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/epiphany-browser/+pots/epiphany/fr/+translate?batch=10&show=changed_in_launchpad12:52
crevetteah12:52
seb128crevette: 0 strings changées sur launchpad12:52
crevetteon peut voir ca12:52
seb128oui12:52
crevettec'est epiphany :)12:53
crevetteapareil pour f-spot12:53
crevettebon ca craint encore pire12:54
seb128crevette: erreur de copié, collé ;-)12:54
seb128ou de manip plutot12:54
crevettedesolé d'avoir accusé launchpad :)12:54
seb128crevette: pourquoi ca crait plus, tu peux le corriger direct upstream non ? ;-)12:54
crevetteoui maintenant12:55
crevettemais ca veut dire que ces trad ont sur pas mal de distro12:55
seb128de toute façon vu que f-spot a une centaine de strings même pas translatable12:55
crevettetu l''utilises pour gerer tes photos ?12:58
seb128oui13:00
shan__Could some one point me to documents on how to configure my broadcom 4306 wlan card on ubuntu 8.04?13:03
crevettehello13:05
seb128shan__: hi, that's not an user support chan, try #ubuntu13:06
shan__ok thanks13:09
crevetteseb128, do you know who could I contact to have liberation fonts included in standard ubuntu ?13:12
Hobbseecrevette: you can't.  they're in multiverse.13:13
seb128hey Hobbsee ;-)13:13
Hobbseehey seb128!13:13
crevetteHobbsee, hello13:13
crevetteHobbsee, licencing issue ?13:13
* Hobbsee waves to crevette13:13
crevetteI thought it was solved13:13
Hobbseecrevette: i presume so.  i've not looked carefully13:13
crevetteHobbsee, I advice you to try them13:14
Hobbseecrevette: i'm using them now.13:14
crevettetheir shape are very nice and professional13:14
Hobbseecrevette: they're in multiverse for hardy release.13:14
crevetteHobbsee, ah13:14
crevette:à)13:14
crevetteHobbsee, yeah I know13:14
Hobbseeso, i presume it's not solved.13:14
Hobbseebut i really don't know13:14
Hobbseecrevette: i'm finally even liking the bold fonts.13:18
crevetteabout liberation ? yeah bold is nice, not too bold13:18
crevetteit is the best font we had13:19
crevettehave13:19
huatso/ crevette13:19
Hobbseehmm.  now changed for irc.13:20
huatshello Hobbsee too :)13:20
Hobbseehuats: heya!13:20
crevetteHobbsee, :)13:23
Hobbseeman this looks weird.13:23
crevetteI use them everywhere13:23
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seb128hey pedro_14:09
pedro_hello seb12814:09
seb128pedro_: don't freak out about the number of bug watch updates, I talked to the launchpad guys some days ago because I had the impression it was not working correctly and they fixed it now ;-)14:10
pedro_thanks god14:10
pedro_haha14:10
pedro_thanks for let me know I was just starting to14:10
seb128so that was a catchup run14:10
seb128and it should be normal again14:10
seb128and I spend the morning triaging those changes, so I recommend that you mark just all read or something14:11
pedro_everything makes sense now14:11
pedro_thanks you!14:11
seb128you are welcome ;-)14:12
proppyHi, I've got some wierd theming issue (with gtk)15:54
proppyI can't manage to set some GtkTreeView background15:54
proppyonly in Ubuntu15:54
proppyhttp://proppy.aminche.com/rhythmbox.png15:55
proppygtkrc here15:55
proppyhttp://pastebin.com/m6043c76c15:55
proppywhat it should be: http://benjamin.sipsolutions.net/tmp/rhythmbox.png15:55
proppycould someone give it a try: by saving  http://pastebin.com/m6043c76c to gtk-debug file and call GTK2_RC_FILES=gtk-debug /usr/X11R6/bin/rhythmbox15:56
proppy?15:56
proppyIt sounds like a gtk ubuntu bug, what do you think ?15:57
seb128no it doesn't15:58
seb128ubuntu has no rhythmbox nor gtk change that could create a such issue15:58
proppyI reproduced in an hardy fresh vm btw15:59
proppy+it15:59
seb128seems to be an upstream bug15:59
proppyrhythmbox or gtk ?15:59
seb128I'm not sure that rhythmbox is using a standard GtkTreeView16:00
proppybecause I reproduced the same issue with evolution16:00
seb128they might have a custom widget16:00
seb128ok, gtk then16:00
proppyhttp://proppy.aminche.com/evolution.png16:00
seb128or a theme one16:00
proppydebian unstable, as not this issue, nor gentoo16:01
proppyseb128: do you have the same issue on your computer ?16:02
seb128(I hate when people use $random_distro_works_differently as an argument)16:03
seb128you most likely don't have the same configuration on this distros16:03
seb128don't use the same gtk theme engine or something16:03
seb128I don't know, I've no clue what is right or wrong16:04
proppyseb128: this is not an argument, I just try to figure out where should I report the bug, and the submit a patch16:04
seb128rhythmbox seems to be displayed correctly for me16:04
seb128where, bugzilla.gnome.org16:04
proppyI'm not implying at all that it is a distro issue,16:05
proppyI'm implying that knowing it work on another distro, could help to figureout which version of the upstream is faulty16:05
seb128we have gtk in almost sync on debian and no rhythmbox distro specific change which could create that16:05
seb128debian unstable and hardy have the same gtk16:05
proppyI uploaded the gtkrc to http://proppy.aminche.com/gtkrc-debug16:05
proppyfor convenience16:06
proppyOne could test with: wget http://proppy.aminche.com/gtkrc-debug16:06
proppyand GTK2_RC_FILES=gtkrc-debug /usr/X11R6/bin/rhythmbox16:06
proppyCan you confirm me that the left treeview as a blue background ?16:07
seb128it hasn't16:08
proppythat's the bug :)16:08
seb128nothing has a blue background, only the selection and the search entry16:08
proppyoh16:08
seb128and it works if I switch to the clearlooks theme16:09
proppyyou don't have a blue background on the down treeview16:09
seb128everything is blue16:09
seb128left sidebar included16:09
proppyhttp://proppy.aminche.com/rhythmbox.png16:09
seb128again, what theme are you using?16:10
proppyseb128: how do you switch to clearlooks theme ?16:10
seb128system, preferences, appearance16:10
seb128I clicked on clearlooks16:10
proppyI thought that overriding GTK2_RC_FILES was a way to force the theme by application16:11
seb128a theme is not only a gtkrc16:12
proppyseems that the pb is with "Human" theme16:13
proppyin conjonction with this gtkrc16:13
seb128right16:13
proppyHuman theme is in gnome-themes ?16:14
seb128no16:14
proppygnome-ubuntu-themes ?16:14
seb128gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks16:14
proppyso it might be an engine bug16:15
seb128could be, but your gtkrc specify to use the pixmap engine16:15
proppyyep,16:15
proppylet's try without16:15
proppysame issue16:16
seb128it's due to the Human gtkrc16:16
proppywonder how gtkrc are prioritized when you override GTK2_RC_FILES16:17
proppyseems that the theme one is applied "after" and then override the GTK2_RC_FILES one16:18
seb128not sure, maybe the human gtkrc has extra nuances and your doesn't define enough things16:19
proppythen it is not really a bug16:19
seb128right16:21
seb128you can look to the Human gtkrc16:23
proppyyep looking16:23
seb128it has a note about evolution and some other deprecated widgets using wrong color for listviews16:23
proppyand trying to comment lines16:23
seb128try to comment those16:23
proppyto figure out which declaration override mine16:23
proppycommenting #class "GtkWidget"      style "clearlooks-default"16:24
proppymade GtkTreeView blue16:24
proppyit seems because of16:27
proppy#GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = "#F5F2ED"16:27
proppy#GtkTreeView::even_row_color = "#FAF9F7"16:27
seb128it's easier a bug in gtk which doesn't use your definition over those, or your gtkrc which doesn't handle some cases where theme have extra definitions16:28
seb128s/easier/either16:28
proppywhen I do provide these definition in my gtk-debug16:29
proppyit works16:29
proppy  GtkTreeView ::odd_row_color = "#00ff00"16:29
proppy  GtkTreeView ::even_row_color = "#0000ff"16:29
proppyso it's ain't a bug :)16:30
proppyI just assumed wrongly that overriding bg/fg and base/text will override all theme color16:30
seb128good ;-)16:30
proppyseb128: thanks a lot for your help16:30
seb128you are welcome16:31
proppyseb128: I would not have been able to figure that out, without your guidance :)16:31
seb128pedro_: why did you close bug #224198 as an user question?16:44
pedro_seb128: works fine on two of my installations he's probably  doing something wrong16:46
seb128pedro_: works fine for me too, but we are frustrating some users with abusing this stock reply I think (I tend to do it too), we should use the one asked for exact steps, etc saying it works correctly on other installations16:47
pedro_seb128: ok, will do it next time16:48
seb128thanks ;-)16:48
proppyback to my evolution theming bug16:49
pedro_you're welcome ;-)16:49
proppysee you later18:35
proppythanks seb12818:35
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chains_I feel obligated to mention that the new elvish sorceress 10*4 is too powerful against undead.20:20
chains_wrong window of course :)20:24
Nafalloquite :-)20:43
seb128_re22:17
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