[00:08]  * PriceChild wonders why the -tr's keep hilighting him.
[00:08] <elky_work> -tr is turkey?
[00:08] <PriceChild> mmhm
[00:09] <elky_work> you've been in their channel long?
[00:09] <PriceChild> some time
[00:09] <LjL> *which* of their channels?
[00:09] <elky_work> and spoken recently in something other than their language?
[00:10] <PriceChild> LjL: i wasn't aware there were more than #ubuntu-tr
[00:10] <elky_work> PriceChild, s/-/./
[00:10] <LjL> PriceChild: you should check the -irc logs then
[00:10] <PriceChild> that forwards?
[00:10] <elky_work> does it now?
[00:13]  * robotgeek goes back to #kubuntu to help
[00:59] <nalioth> jussio1: please make your bot identify
[01:31] <gnomefreak> Jucato: can i get bot in #ubuntu-mozillateam please
[01:31] <Jucato> ubot5: join #ubuntu-mozillateam
[01:32] <Jucato> the funny thing is, he joined :)
[01:32] <Jucato> s/he/it/
[01:36] <gnomefreak> wrong person
[01:36] <gnomefreak> did he?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> no not ther ehe didnt
[01:38] <Jucato> [Whois] ubot5 is a user on channels: #kubuntu #ubuntu #ubuntu-bleedingedge #ubuntu-mozillateam #ubuntu-ops
[01:39] <elky_work> which bot gets #ubuntu-au :)
[01:40] <Jucato> elky_work: is it there now?
[01:41] <elky_work> according to whois it is
[01:41] <elky_work> im not in that channel from work, or i'd not get work done
[01:41] <Jucato> heh ok :)
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Jucato: hes not there afaik
[01:43] <gnomefreak> he is
[01:43] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[01:44] <Jucato> gnomefreak: so which is which? :)
[01:44] <gnomefreak> hes there :(
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sorry been working my ass off all day
[01:45] <gnomefreak> now its bed time :)
[01:45] <Jucato> sweet dreams! :)
[01:45] <gnomefreak> night 
[01:45] <mneptok> gnomefreak: please retrieve your ass before leaving.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:46] <mneptok> it's tough keeping the coyotes away all night.
[02:28] <mneptok> callin' out, in transit ...
[02:49] <tritium> my gosh
[02:49] <jrib> !dialup > jrib
[02:49] <jrib> lies...
[02:57] <jrib> oh, not lies
[02:57] <jrib> jussio1: you own ubot5 right?
[02:58] <jrib> ubot5 is not identified so he won't be able to send private messages afaict
[02:58] <jrib> I noticed.
[02:59] <nalioth> jrib: yes, i've been telling jussio1 this
[03:12] <Hobbsee> good morning
[03:12] <Hobbsee> seems things blew up over night.
[03:13] <elky_work> not unexpected
[03:13] <elky_work> considering the current state of things
[03:13] <Hobbsee> indeed.  nor hte first, i suspect.
[03:13] <Hobbsee> at least it's post-release
[03:13] <elky_work> indeed
[03:21] <Hobbsee> i can't really blame people for not running infrastructure either, after they've quit the team.  i'ts presumably a massive lot of bandwidth.
[03:21] <Hobbsee> and there are backup bots, and this has been coming for a long time.
[03:23]  * Hobbsee would also remind anyone reading, now or in future, that this was not an isolated incident, and freenode has become very lax about trolls.
[04:11]  * gnomefreak not even sure if my script still works or what the new rules are about bans ect...
[04:12] <gnomefreak> is there anyone that can look up when i need to apply for membership renewal?
[04:12] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: you can.
[04:12] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: look it up on launcphad.net/~teamname/+members
[04:12] <Hobbsee> it has an expiry date
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ah and i have to add self to agenda?
[04:13] <Hobbsee> i thought you could auto-renew it
[04:13] <gnomefreak> oh sweet
[04:13] <gnomefreak> maybe i still have email will look before freaking
[04:13] <gnomefreak> thanks
[04:14] <Hobbsee> they email you a week in advance.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> i hope it was longer than that :(
[04:14] <gnomefreak> i got it 3 weeks ago if its the one im thinking of
[04:14] <Hobbsee> well, so did i, since it would have expired the day after i got back from my holiday.
[04:16] <gnomefreak> well i dont see it so ill check memeber page
[04:18] <gnomefreak> thursday :(
[04:24] <gnomefreak> i dont see anything about renewing other than if it laspse you have have it reactivated
[04:28] <elky_work> gnomefreak, im sure 'emergency life saving surgery' counts as a valid excuse for not catching it on time
[04:29] <gnomefreak> im sure but im home and fairly ok now and im not big on excuses true or not
[04:29] <elky_work> s/excuse/reason/
[04:29] <gnomefreak> now if i cant get intouch with one of the CC board members than i would say its a good idea
[04:29] <gnomefreak> fine line like love and hate good and evil 
[04:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:30] <elky_work> well, since the CC no longer deal with memberships, more likely poke one of the membership board for the americas
[04:31] <elky_work> dont ask me who that is though
[04:33] <gnomefreak> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlineMembershipApproval doesnt tell me yet
[04:34] <nickrud> gnomefreak the last cc has a link to a pastebin with membership board members
[04:34] <gnomefreak> i guess ill ping jono or mako abou tit
[04:34] <nickrud> *meeting
[04:34] <gnomefreak> nickrud: where?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> oh metting
[04:38] <gnomefreak> looks like logs are broken
[04:38] <gnomefreak> oops thats tomorrow
[04:39] <gnomefreak> when was last meeting?
[04:39] <elky_work> last week iirc
[04:42] <gnomefreak> on the 15th
[04:42] <gnomefreak> i found it i think
[04:43] <gnomefreak> omg i know most of them :)
[04:43] <gnomefreak> nixternal: you happen to be awake?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> oh crap
[04:43]  * gnomefreak smacks self hard
[04:45] <gnomefreak> elky_work: your one as well
[04:45] <elky_work> gnomefreak, apparantly yeah
[04:45] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:45] <elky_work> i still not had time or brainspace to get back to dholback to say either way
[04:46]  * gnomefreak dissagrees with one person on this list but im not getting to start on that
[04:46] <elky_work> s/holback/holbach/
[04:46] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:46] <elky_work> gnomefreak, i dare say the one i disagree with also
[04:46] <elky_work> and likely for the same reasons
[04:47] <Hobbsee> i'm surprised the list has gone silent, now
[04:48] <elky_work> why, how much do i have to wade through when i get home?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> eki only saw 2 but had another one from someone i didnt read yet
[04:49] <gnomefreak> seveas someguyidontknow and Amarant'h
[04:49] <Hobbsee> elky_work: only 5 mails total
[04:50] <gnomefreak> good idea smoke and read emails 
[04:50] <gnomefreak> now that tb3 works finally :)
[05:05] <gnomefreak> found the email
[05:06] <gnomefreak> i renewed it alread just on the membership page i thought it was it still expires on thursday
[05:10] <gnomefreak> thats odd on renewal you only get 1 year
[05:18] <nixternal> gnomefreak: what's up?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> guys, can we make sure whichever ubotu is in action now also lands in the development channels?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> who owns ubot5
[05:30] <jdong> jussio1: 
[05:31] <Hobbsee> jussi01: can you stick it in devland please?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> and has bug tracker plugin
[05:31] <gnomefreak> you wouldnt believe how much i need that
[05:44] <mneptok> gnomefreak: i have a bot that i think still has a functional bugtracker plugin. but that thing is completely flarked. i asked Seveas for help with it a while ago, and after a while he threw up his hands. if it's working, i dunno how.
[05:45]  * gnomefreak never got my bot running so your better than i
[05:45] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: got the bot running on my server.
[05:46] <nalioth> jussio1: needs to fix ubot5 first
[05:47] <elky_work> nalioth, if ubot5 is not working, it's not worth keeping
[05:50] <nalioth> elky_work: it's working, just not identifying
[05:50] <elky_work> then it's not really working
[06:53] <Jucato> Hobbsee: what channels do you need ubot5 to be in?
[06:54] <stdin> Jucato: the -dev/-motu chans
[06:54] <Jucato> hm ok.. but should I wait until nalioth finds ubot5 acceptable? (like having it identify first)
[06:55] <stdin> it's already in #ubuntu, so why not in -dev
[06:57] <Jucato> ubuntu-devel, kubuntu-devel, ubuntu-motu.. where else (/me is not familiar with all of 'em)
[06:58] <stdin> that should do I think, can always add to more later
[06:58] <Jucato> jussio1/jussi01: you will have to ping me later.. I have a big grin on my face right now :)
[06:58] <wgrant> #launchpad also usually has it.
[06:59] <stdin> yeah, but it won't report bugs though
[07:00] <stdin> it will when you give a bug number (I think), but not as they are reported
[07:00] <wgrant> Ah.
[07:00] <wgrant> Damn.
[07:00] <Jucato> yeah
[07:15] <mneptok> munh
[07:16] <mneptok> i need to get Beige to install PySQLite
[07:16] <elky_work> sqlite sucks :P
[07:16] <mneptok> yes it does
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> who the heck is Jo-Erlend?
[07:23] <stdin> tonyyarusso: https://edge.launchpad.net/~joerlend.schinstad
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> I've never even heard of that nick...
[07:24] <stdin> me either
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> seems he's said half a dozen lines now and then, but not much
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> certainly doesn't know what's going on
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> heya Madpilot 
[08:21] <Madpilot> hi tonyyarusso 
[08:21] <Madpilot> I appear to be missing a lot of soap opera goings-on...
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> btw, we've had an offer for another option for ubuntu-ca web hosting if you've given up on Canonical yet.
[08:22] <Madpilot> haven't thought about that particular mess in months, actually
[08:22] <Madpilot> except to note in passing that the 'does rt@ work' thread is still in my inbox...
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> It idles in the back of my brain, kind of like places like #bash and ##php do in irssi.
[08:22] <Madpilot> heh
[08:23] <Madpilot> likewise. at random intervals, "I should do something about ubuntu.ca" surfaces. Real life usually depth-charges it back into hiding, though.
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, I figured that would be your decision to make, so just be aware that a certain Ubuntu member is offering an Ubuntu-running VPS setup that already has Drupal installed, and could get us ssh access (no passwords - SSH keyed) plus speedy responses to any issues we did have.
[08:25] <Madpilot> nice
[08:26] <Madpilot> something to keep in mind. one of these days I'm going to revive the "does rt@ work" thread on -loco and stir more stuff up
[08:26]  * tonyyarusso might be interviewed on NPR about Ubuntu one of these days
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: e-mail Mark directly.  I've had about 75% success getting a personal reply reasonably promptly when I've done that, compared to RT's zero.  ;)
[08:27] <Madpilot> it might come to that, but as a larger issue, I'd like to prod rt@ into actually being functional
[08:28] <Madpilot> or move it back to Launchpad where it belongs
[08:29] <Madpilot> I'm still half-convinced that rt@ was set up to hide the fact that Canonical's tech support for loco teams sucks dog bollocks... </cynic>
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> agreed, sadly.
[08:30] <Daviey> Madpilot: I spoke to elmo last week, they are well aware of the issues - just overworked.  I've been waiting for nearly 3 months for a hole to be punched in the firewall on a canonical server.  An issue with the ubuntu-website, on launchpad is probably near 6 months old... So i don't think LP helps make it more efficient :(
[08:30] <Madpilot> Daviey, Ubuntu Canada's been waiting about 16 months now.
[08:30] <Daviey> !
[08:30] <Madpilot> yes
[08:31] <Madpilot> original hosting request made sometime at the end of 2006.
[08:31] <Daviey> Madpilot: i'd give jono a chase on that, personally 
[08:31] <Madpilot> Daviey, we have - tonyyarusso has, anyway
[08:31] <Daviey> sad.
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> yeah, I believe I talked to him in October and November.
[08:31] <Madpilot> which year?
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> 2007
[08:33] <ikonia> can someone mute/kick aq - just being a pest, basiclly keeping the channel off topic
[08:33] <ikonia> "hi can I join with you"
[08:33] <ikonia> every few lines in #ubuntu
[08:33] <ikonia> he's been asked multiple times
[08:34] <ikonia> Madpilot: thank you 
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Someone help me remember that I'm supposed to accept an award at a luncheon tomorrow...
[08:36]  * tonyyarusso totally expects to forget and be mortified
[08:36] <Madpilot> is money and/or free booze involved?
[08:36] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: at what point would you like prodding
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> No.
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: Approximately 8.5 hours from now.
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> gah, I should sleep
[08:37] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: you've just been cronned
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> ikonia: thanks :)
[08:46] <emorris> hi, is ubotu not always logged in?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> emorris: currently, that is correct, but hopefully will be remedied soonish.
[08:47] <stdin> ubotu is offline
[08:47] <emorris> thanks
[08:50] <Myrtti> so, where are we now?
[08:50] <Myrtti> or do I need to check backlog?
[08:52] <Madpilot> apparently the soap opera continues
[08:53] <ikonia> which one ?
[08:53] <ikonia> there are many
[08:53] <wgrant> It has been a rather unpleasantly exciting past few days.
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: say, did your brother end up doing another edition of the Ubuntu Book for Hardy or not?
[08:55] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, yes, 3rd ed is coming out sometime
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: summerish?
[08:56] <Madpilot> not sure. let me ask
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[08:58] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, the illustrious co-author says, "I have no idea, but in the next month or so, I expect"
[08:58] <Madpilot> there you have it
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> ah, okay
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: you may want to take note of the YVONNE?? quits in #ubuntu just a moment ago - four at a time.
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> sorry, five
[09:13] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: might have been having problems
[09:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, there were more that quit before that
[09:19] <elkbuntu> nalioth, no, they come from multiple hostmasks
[09:20] <elkbuntu> nalioth, with nicks of YVONNE with two random letters attached to the end of that
[09:20] <nalioth> elkbuntu: they are slowly but surely being removed
[09:20] <nalioth> so i'm seeing
[09:20] <elkbuntu> yes. we both know they wont be gone forever
[09:22] <nalioth> somebody likes Yvonne
[09:25] <elkbuntu> hmm? k-line already lifted?
[09:28] <PriceChild> Hobbsee: this is not freenode's problem. Afaik their policy hasn't changed recently. Lets please stop blaming them.
[09:32] <nalioth> elkbuntu: Yvonne is a cloaked contributor here on freenode
[09:32] <elkbuntu> ah
[09:32] <nalioth> bots were a smear
[09:32] <Madpilot> lovely]
[09:35] <elkbuntu> PriceChild, freenode's inability to deal with cross-namespace trolls, spammers and stalkers is freenode's problem and is wearing really really really really really thin. it is taking an unhealthy toll on all of us. seveas reached his last straw. i advise you to prepare for more people to reach theirs in the near future.
[10:06] <Amaranth> who is Jo-Erlend Schinstad?
[10:10] <nalioth> Amaranth: /lastlog
[10:10] <Amaranth> and I get my own question, what about it?
[10:11] <nalioth> Amaranth: you can scroll back up and see where this was answered before
[10:11] <nalioth> or not
[10:11] <nalioth> or use /lastlog
[10:11] <nalioth> or w/e
[10:11] <Amaranth> Or you could just say the answer?
[10:12] <nalioth> i don't remember the answer, but i know it was answered
[10:12] <Amaranth> Because "/lastlog Jo-Erlend Schinstad" gives me nothing
[10:12] <wgrant> Amaranth: Drop the Schinstad.
[10:12] <popey> https://edge.launchpad.net/~joerlend.schinstad
[10:12] <Amaranth> wgrant: that didn't work either :P
[10:13] <wgrant> Worked for me :(
[10:13] <Amaranth> Never heard of this guy's IRC nick either
[10:14] <Amaranth> So I don't see why he thinks he is capable of being in this discussion
[10:15] <nalioth> mailing lists are for discussion
[10:15] <nalioth> he is discussing what has been put there
[10:15] <nalioth> if you want to discuss on irc, keep it on irc
[10:41] <Myrtti> in general view I think this whole thing just sucks big time, and I also think pointing fingers in the current situation doesn't help
[10:43] <Myrtti> yes, we need to know who we need to address with the problems, but pointing fingers (almost blindly) isn't the way of doing things.
[10:43] <Myrtti> and I agree with the wish of getting the irc council meetings back on the track soon.
[10:44] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, we need to find a fifth councillor before that happens, but if this situation continues much longer, you'll be looking for the fourth and third too
[10:45] <Myrtti> I do realize that
[10:48] <Myrtti> I just hope the fourth and third don't rush into action like the fifth did
[10:50] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, depends. my health is priority over everything else, and i've been sick thrice in the past three weeks after not being sick for over a year... so go figure
[10:52] <Myrtti> elkbuntu: I've got trust in you not to act as rash and un-CoCish
[10:52] <Myrtti> note: -ish
[10:52] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i have no infrastructure to take with me
[10:53] <Myrtti> and I'm not sure is that a blessing or a curse :-)
[10:54] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, i dont think any fewer ops is really seeable as a blessing
[10:55] <Myrtti> I ment your lack of infrastructure to take with you
[10:55] <elkbuntu> depends if you consider infrastructure the only thing of value
[10:56] <Myrtti> no, just a means of making sure we don't stand on one peg leg
[10:59] <elkbuntu> indeed... and that's about the only thing holding me here
[10:59] <elkbuntu> the extra strain on everyoen else
[10:59] <Myrtti> /me hugs everyone in the IRC council
[10:59] <Myrtti> we luvz you
[11:00] <Myrtti> not everyone is capable of saying it aloud, so I'm saying it for them
[11:00] <Myrtti> if my meager powers can be leashed to help you, just poke me
[11:02] <stdin> do we still need +r in #u ?
[11:04] <ikonia> nalioth: have you got 30 seconds for a quick question ?
[11:12]  * Tm_T hugs everyone in IRC
[11:12] <Tm_T> just to make sure noone feels left out
[11:13] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, some people are worth leaving out.
[11:13] <stdin> damn floodbots, they aren't sending the "Please register..." messages in -unregged any more
[11:13] <elkbuntu> LjL, ping^^
[11:13] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: true, but, I don't know if I have right to say who ;)
[11:14] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, i believe that's unspoken but known
[11:14] <Tm_T> elkbuntu: but indeed, some are worth leaving out, me for sure ;(
[11:14] <elkbuntu> noooo
[11:14]  * elkbuntu hugs Tm_T
[11:15] <Tm_T> hu-man flesh, mmmmmmm ;)
[11:16] <Tm_T> if you still don't believe I'm evil, ask Myrtti, she knows ];=
[11:16] <wgrant> Tm_T: He-Man flesh? We have a lot of that in #-motu.
[11:17] <Tm_T> wgrant: no, hu-mans, they smell funny, though you'll have to get used to it if you stay on planet Earth
[11:17] <wgrant> Tm_T: I see I have much to learn about this strange planet.
[11:17] <Myrtti> yeah, awful person. Selling me laptop with ati, atheros and whatnot for ridiculous price, offering to package me a beta sylpheed...
[11:18]  * Tm_T hides
[11:21] <Myrtti> does anyone have a link to ubotu db?
[11:22] <stdin> it was taken down along with the website
[11:23] <Tm_T> stdin: anyone have copy of it then?
[11:23] <Myrtti> yes, I know
[11:23] <Myrtti> jussio1 does
[11:23] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:23] <Myrtti> but anyone else?
[11:23] <Tm_T> yay
[11:23] <Myrtti> jussi01: ping
[11:23] <jpatrick> I think stdin did - at least he had a script for it
[11:23] <jussi01> Myrtti: pong :D
[11:23] <Myrtti> ^
[11:23] <stdin> my last on is from 2008-03-15
[11:23] <jussi01> hang on a sec
[11:23] <Tm_T> anyway, I'm off for now, remember to behave kids ->
[11:24] <Myrtti> we're planning to translate it to Finnish
[11:24] <Myrtti> getting the db is the first step
[11:25] <Myrtti> I'm also making a proposition for the Finnish community to mirror the future ubotu replacement
[11:25] <Myrtti> I think it would be a nice gesture from the community of the country of native origin of Linus to officially mirror it
[11:26] <Myrtti> not sure how it could be done, but that's something that will be figured out
[11:27] <stdin> it's a good month out of date, but http://stdin.me.uk/tmp/ubuntu.db is what I have
[11:27] <stdin> ~2MB
[11:27] <ubot3> Factoid 2mb not found
[11:27] <stdin> heh, shutup ubot3 
[11:28] <Daviey> i wgetted one last night = 2.2M
[11:28] <stdin> that one would be more up-to-date then
[11:29] <Myrtti> synchronize, peeps :-)
[11:30] <Myrtti> synchronize!
[11:30] <jpatrick> if not, google cache should have one?
[11:30] <Daviey> http://daviey.mooo.com/~dave/ubuntu.db
[11:30] <stdin> I'm not sure google cache data files (except PDF)
[11:32] <Myrtti> http://myrtti.fi/temp/ubuntu.db there
[11:32] <jussio1> http://jussi.users.ubuntustudio.org/
[11:32] <jussio1> there also
[11:32] <Myrtti> there we go
[11:32] <Myrtti> more copies we have, the better
[11:33] <jussio1> I got that one straight after the email...
[11:33] <elkbuntu> yay jussi01 is alive
[11:33]  * jussio1 hugs elkbuntu
[11:33] <elkbuntu> is your bot fixed yet?
[11:33] <Myrtti> ok, were copying it ourselves
[11:34] <jussio1> elkbuntu: I havent had time to do anything. I have exams, and a sick wife, as well as my mother is in hospital. sorry. :(
[11:34] <Myrtti> so let's figure out how we can help jussio1 
[11:34] <Myrtti> what is exactly wrong with the bot?
[11:34] <elkbuntu> Jucato, no prob, just it was like a tease having it here without some of the vitals
[11:34] <Jucato> ahem
[11:35] <Jucato> jussio1: nalioth requests that you identify ubot5 :)
[11:36] <jussio1> ok. I havent actually registered ubot5 nick yet, so need to do that. 
[11:36] <Jucato> :P
[11:37] <Myrtti> jussio1: would it help if there were more people capable of working with ubot5 so you could tend to issues more important?
[11:38] <jussio1> Myrtti: yeah, I agree. I can give anyone ownership rights, but no access to the server at this time. 
[11:39] <Jucato> jussio1: I'm quite surprised that I can actually make ubot5 join/part channels :)
[11:39] <Jucato> the perks of being misidentified as you
[11:39] <jussio1> Jucato: you are on the owners list iirc
[11:39] <Myrtti> so are there any eligble, responsible ubuntu ops present who would feel confident handling the bot and don't have any urgent issues currently?
[11:39] <Jucato> jussio1: wanna see something funny?
[11:39] <jussio1> Jucato: ?
[11:40] <Jucato> [18:39] <Jucato> whoami
[11:40] <Jucato> [11:40] <jussio1> yeah
[11:40] <Jucato> :D
[11:40] <jussio1> I know
[11:40] <Jucato> so apparently, I'm you :P
[11:40] <jussio1> I just added your hostmask on the owner list. 
[11:40] <jussio1> so yes, it thinks you are me
[11:40] <jussio1> same with nalioth. 
[11:41] <Jucato> lovely :)
[11:41] <Jucato> now I must love you as I love myself
[11:41] <jussio1> heh
[12:11] <Myrtti> !ping
[12:11] <Myrtti> !hardy
[12:11] <Myrtti> *phew*
[12:11] <Myrtti> I thought I broke it
[12:45] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: ah, thanks for defending.
[12:47] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: what elkbuntu said.
[12:47] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: their policy has'nt appeared to change.  the staff just don't appear to follow their policy any more.  Why should they not be blamed?
[12:48] <Hobbsee> jussi01: #ubuntu-motu would also be good
[12:49] <Myrtti> did it join?
[12:49] <Hobbsee> no
[12:49] <Myrtti> ubot5: join #ubuntu-motu
[12:51] <Myrtti> I see it is there now
[12:52] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: ?
[12:52] <Myrtti> yeah.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: ah, yeah, thanks.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> Myrtti: #launchpad-meeting too
[12:53] <Hobbsee> you can @nick ubotu too, i expect
[12:53] <Myrtti> I'm not really that fluent with the bot yet
[12:53] <Myrtti> I'm trying hard as I can with all my paid job on the side
[12:54] <Myrtti> ubot5: @join #launchpad-meeting
[12:54] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[12:54] <Myrtti> as can be seen
[12:55] <Myrtti> Hobbsee: I think it's best to leave the nick as it is yet
[12:55] <Myrtti> that way people know it's not the original bot and don't expect too much of it
[12:55] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[13:02] <dawar> re
[13:02] <dawar> mon disque marche \o/
[13:02] <dawar> a partir d'une autre distrib /o\
[13:02] <dawar> c'est donc un bug sur cette magnifique hardy...
[13:02] <dawar> oups
[13:02] <dawar> désolé mauvaise fenetre :)
[13:04] <Hobbsee> english?
[13:04] <dawar> wrong windows, sorry
[13:04] <dawar> :)
[13:08] <dawar> bye
[13:09] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: was my mail on -irc list full nonsense?
[13:09] <Tm_T> oh..
[13:10] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: no, it was fine
[13:11] <Tm_T> roger, I'm bit "off" so couldnt tell
[13:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> voice party again *grin*
[13:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was wondering if we could have a bot in -server ? i only see ubuntulog
[13:16] <Myrtti> I'm not sure how much traffic ubot5 will take
[13:17] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I wonder if I could provide a ubot clone too, if needed
[13:17] <Tm_T> in heavy hardware that is
[13:17] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I'm planning to host one myself
[13:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> Tm_T, hello
[13:17] <Myrtti> but that would be better
[13:18] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: hi son
[13:18] <Myrtti> oh well.
[13:18] <Tm_T> Myrtti: in kapsi server(s) :)
[13:18] <Myrtti> Kamping_Kaiser: did it join?
[13:18] <Myrtti> Tm_T: yeah, that was what I was thinking of
[13:19] <Tm_T> Myrtti: if you can do it, I can talk to our staff
[13:19] <popey> I'd happily run an ubotu if needed.
[13:19] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I know zero about bots myself
[13:19] <Myrtti> popey: I think it would be best if we could have as many clones as possible
[13:20] <popey> ok, well, just shout if you need me to set one up
[13:20] <popey> Daviey: we could run it on the ubuntu-uk box?
[13:20] <Tm_T> Myrtti: but in kapsi theres plenty of hw power so to speak
[13:20] <Myrtti> so we could a) spread the strain on them more evenly, b) have one ready immediately if we need
[13:20] <jussio1> hay all
[13:20] <Tm_T> jussio1: hi son
[13:20] <jussio1> hey daddy
[13:20] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I know about zilch about them myself, but I think jussio1 will be happy to help a bit :-)
[13:21] <ikonia> Myrtti: I can give you access to one of my more "grunty" boxes in a DC which your welcome to run a bot from 
[13:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> thanks for the bot :) it talks gutsy, but thats probably ok. thanks for getting stuff online so fast.
[13:21] <jussio1> Myrtti: jussi01.com is back up :)
[13:21]  * Kamping_Kaiser waves and disapears again
[13:21] <Tm_T> heh
[13:21] <Tm_T> Kamping_Kaiser: nooo
[13:21]  * Tm_T hides
[13:22]  * Hobbsee did!
[13:22]  * Hobbsee throws more worms
[13:22] <Tm_T> iu
[13:23] <popey> Myrtti: who is co-ordinating this effort?
[13:23] <Myrtti> it's just me thinking and saying my thoughts aloud
[13:23] <Myrtti> :-D
[13:23] <Myrtti> common sence
[13:23] <popey> :)
[13:23] <Myrtti> sense speaking
[13:26] <Hobbsee> !register > razel
[13:26] <Hobbsee> !register
[13:31] <Myrtti> !wubi
[13:31] <Myrtti> I can't make any sense of the new suggestion, ikonia 
[13:32] <ikonia> Myrtti: the external wubi sites still download beta versions of hardy 
[13:32] <ikonia> where as using wubi on the official ubuntu cd's pulls down the correct version
[13:32] <ikonia> somecases it's still the beta, other times it's hardy but with beta wording
[13:33] <Myrtti> ikonia: add punctuation and capitalization where needed
[13:34] <ikonia> Myrtti: fair enough it was just a content change really, 
[13:34] <ikonia> Myrtti: I'll update now, I may re-wrod a bit to make it more obvious
[13:42] <jussio1> NOTICE: Im going to shut down ubot5 for a few mins. brb
[13:49] <jussi01> !ping
[13:50] <jussi01> :D
[13:50] <jussi01> !wubi
[13:50] <jussi01> updated db :D
[13:51] <Myrtti> <3
[13:52] <LjL> jussi01: to when?
[13:52] <jussio1> yesterday
[13:52] <Jucato> !autostart-#kubuntu
[13:52] <Jucato> right :)
[13:52] <LjL> ah so i'm not the only one with daily cron backup of it
[13:57] <Jucato> !info kubuntu-desktop
[13:57] <Jucato> jussio1: still gutsy
[13:57] <jussio1> Jucato: yeah, I know. 
[13:57] <Jucato> hm.. ok.. sorry :)
[13:58] <LjL> jussi01, they need the "lp" tracker as default bugtracker in #ubuntu-server
[13:58] <jussio1> LjL: Ill add you with owner capabilities. I need to run. 
[13:59] <LjL> ok
[13:59] <Myrtti> jolly good
[13:59] <jussio1> LjL: ask ubot5 whoami
[14:00] <LjL> [15:00:02] <LjL> whoami
[14:00] <LjL> [15:00:05] <ubot5> ljl
[14:00] <LjL> [15:00:08] <LjL> capabilities ljl
[14:00] <LjL> [15:00:09] <ubot5> []
[14:01] <jussio1> :)
[14:01] <Hobbsee> oh, bah, this doesn't support the auth stuff?
[14:01] <LjL> it's not all that easy to support
[14:01] <Hobbsee> i know, PriceChild was having fun with it
[14:01] <Hobbsee> he has a working version, on my server.
[14:01] <Hobbsee> but that may well not be there forever, for irc stuff
[14:02] <elkbuntu> if i could get my hands on seveas right now.... *makes throttling gestures*
[14:02] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: yeah, a time period before they got turned off would have been really nice...
[14:02] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, indeed
[14:03] <LjL> he's overreacted, that's pretty clear
[14:03] <LjL> now let's work with what we have
[14:03] <Mez> hmm?
[14:03] <Mez> what happened with Seveas?
[14:03] <elkbuntu> Mez, dont ask
[14:03] <Myrtti> he's gone
[14:03] <Myrtti> let it lie at that
[14:03] <Mez> what channel - I'll read logs
[14:03] <LjL> Mez, check logs and mail, i think it really does no good to keep talking about stuff
[14:03] <elkbuntu> this one.
[14:03] <LjL> this channel
[14:04] <Myrtti> Mez: if your looking from irclogs.u, start from yesterday 2058
[14:04] <Myrtti> oh, food would be nice.
[14:05] <LjL> jussio1, if you're still there, just pull a quick "config plugins.Bugtracker.snarfTarget lp" please
[14:06] <jussio1> done
[14:06] <Mez> ah, Myrtti my local logs dont cover that - seems someone pulled the plug on me too last night
[14:06] <Myrtti> :-/
[14:07] <Myrtti> good thing you weren't here
[14:07] <Myrtti> I personally was afraid I'd burst an artery in my jugular
[14:07] <elkbuntu> Mez, woudl you accept 'he cracked' as enough and move on?
[14:08] <Mez> Myrtti, nah - I wouldnt have been here either way. It's just my client that stays connected and logs things seemed to quit
[14:08] <LjL> i'd like to make bazhang an op. he's one of the most active people in #ubuntu currently (yes, #ubuntu, the real channel), has been for a few months. PriceChild, elkbuntu, nalioth?
[14:08] <Mez> elkbuntu, I believe I have moved on. I read the logs - I'm not discussing it - I'm bitching that my client got disconnected
[14:08] <elkbuntu> LjL, ack
[14:09]  * jussio1 -> gon
[14:13] <LjL> hey
[14:14] <LjL> why are we +r?
[14:17] <LjL> seriously, is there a reason, or has someone just forgot it set?
[14:21] <stdin> LjL: has been for ~5 hours apparently
[14:22] <LjL> ok i'll remove it
[14:49] <Amaranth> bug 1
[14:49] <Amaranth> gnome bug 45784
[14:50] <Seeker`> Is it possible to request an ubot* in -uk?
[14:51] <Amaranth> Alright, time to close #ubuntu-release-party
[15:03] <PriceChild> LjL: no objections, talked to him much?
[15:03] <LjL> no, mostly seen him helping in #ubuntu, although i did ask him if he'd have a problem signing the coc, which he doesn't
[15:03] <PriceChild> btw open week continues in an hour (not now... *thwacks BST*) so please keep an eye on classroom later if you have the time :)(
[15:13] <Seeker`> anyone?
[15:15] <LjL> Seeker`, i think you need to wait for jussi
[15:15] <Seeker`> ok, thanks
[15:17] <Seeker`> !logs
[16:20] <Myrtti> !paste
[16:20] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[16:20] <LjL> use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:23] <Myrtti> !no paste is <reply> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:23] <Myrtti> !paste
[16:24] <Myrtti> ahihi
[16:26] <ikonia> Myrtti: as I was going through the ubotu factoid DB would it be helpful if I went through the new one looked for unacceptable content and also now out of date / in need of update content ?
[16:26] <ikonia> Myrtti: I've still got notes so I imagine a % would still be valid
[16:26] <Myrtti> yeah, that would be lovely
[16:26] <Myrtti> if you've got them nicely at hand you could send them to me with email
[16:26] <ikonia> ok, I'll do that today/tonight. Where is the current factoid db
[16:27] <ikonia> Myrtti: not got at hand, but can certainly type up an email
[16:27] <LjL> where is it? that's a good question :)
[16:27] <Myrtti> LjL: there's plenty of copies
[16:27] <Myrtti> though after that one edit I made none of them are up to date ;-)
[16:27] <ikonia> Myrtti: may I suggest 1 copy is selected for update then it can be sidstibuted
[16:28] <ikonia> distributed that shold be
[16:28] <LjL> i have nowhere to host mine
[16:28] <ikonia> LjL: would you like somewhere ?
[16:28] <Myrtti> I guess jussio1's is the current main one
[16:28] <Myrtti> since jussi runs ubot5
[16:28] <ikonia> Myrtti: ok, I'll give jussio1 a nudge for an export 
[16:28] <Myrtti> LjL: give us the url and we'll download it around
[16:29] <LjL> eh...
[16:29] <Myrtti> ikonia: the latest copy is at http://myrtti.fi/temp/
[16:29] <LjL> i said i have nowhere to host it
[16:29] <Myrtti> LjL: then toss it into my email
[16:29] <ikonia> Myrtti: and thats jussio1's current copy
[16:30] <Myrtti> ikonia: - edits done after it was restarted today
[16:30] <LjL> Myrtti: well but yours on that site looks recent?
[16:30] <ikonia> Myrtti: ok, I'll get to work on that now
[16:30] <Myrtti> LjL: it is
[16:30] <LjL> then it would be fine
[16:30] <LjL> i don't have jussi's one
[16:31] <Myrtti> ok
[16:31] <Myrtti> I thought you meant *your* bots
[16:31] <Myrtti> they are backed up someplace, right?
[16:32] <Myrtti> the code is nice and handy somewhere
[16:32] <LjL> Myrtti: my bots?
[16:33] <LjL> the floodbots you mean, or ubotwo?
[16:33] <Myrtti> all that you've made changes to
[16:33] <Myrtti> floodbots including
[16:33] <Mez> Floodbots are backed up ;)
[16:34] <Myrtti> good.
[16:34] <Myrtti> just making sure
[16:34] <Mez> well, FloodBot2 is
[16:34] <Mez> :P
[16:34] <LjL> i have made no changes to ubotu, except ones that are really just little hacks
[16:34] <LjL> metabot is available
[16:34] <LjL> bestbot isn't (big loss)
[16:34] <LjL> the decision about the floodbots is currently to keep them private
[16:35] <Mez> LjL, which is a good idea to be fair, we dont want people exploiting them
[16:35] <LjL> i'm not so sure, but anyway, that's the way it is
[16:35] <Hobbsee> bestbot?
[16:35] <Mez> !best
[16:35] <LjL> Hobbsee: #ubuntu-bots
[16:36] <Myrtti> LjL: can you think of any way of giving the floodbot sources to the irc council in such a way their source code isn't available to anyone else?
[16:36] <LjL> Myrtti: the irc council has the source code
[16:36] <Myrtti> encrypted tgz or like
[16:36] <Myrtti> are they backed up ;-)
[16:36] <Mez> Myrtti, I'm also a code-holder for the bots
[16:36] <Mez> (Floodbots)
[16:36] <LjL> if the irc council felt they'd keep backups of them, then they're backed up :)
[16:37] <Mez> LjL, they're auto-backed up on my server ;)
[16:37] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[16:37] <Myrtti> I know I might sound annoying, but I really feel we need to really build a system that keeps all the relevant data backed up multiple times over
[16:37] <Myrtti> so please smack me if I start to sound too paranoid and/or annoying
[16:37] <Hobbsee> that must be launcphad to the rescue :P
[16:38] <Mez> Put simply, we need canonical to take the IRC efforts seriously and provide stable hosting for the IRC tools and utilities we use
[16:38] <Myrtti> yeah
[16:38] <Myrtti> while waiting for it we need to work it out without them
[16:39] <Mez> ok, on 3, everybody slap Jono :P
[16:39] <Myrtti> If Canonical doesn't feel to pitch in, I've got a few guesses on some Finnish communities that might want to help
[16:40] <Mez> * jono :No such nick/channel <-- darn
[16:40] <Myrtti> s/feel/feel like/
[16:40] <Myrtti> or whatever
[16:40] <Myrtti> my former employer might be one, FLUG one, Kapsi ( Tm_T ;-D ) one
[16:41] <LjL> Myrtti, the floodbots get changed constantly, and also, they're on *three* different machines, located in three quite different parts of the world
[16:42] <LjL> i'd say they're backed up
[16:42] <Myrtti> LjL: ok, that relieves my paranoia a bit
[16:45] <Myrtti> I feel like there's pressure building up in my head
[16:45] <Myrtti> did I remember to take my meds this morning?
[16:45] <Myrtti> no
[16:45] <Myrtti> -->
[16:47] <LjL> someone should take over in -classroom if holbach keeps going in ten minutes from now (although i'd say he manages fine anyway)
[16:51] <ikonia> Myrtti: should that database by sqlite 2 or 3
[16:51] <ikonia> it's showing up as 2, but for some reason I was confident it was 3
[16:58]  * Mez is half busy - but helping out. If anyone wants to take over in -classroom, feel free
[16:59]  * Seeker` wonders which half of Mez is busy
[16:59] <Mez> The right
[17:09] <mneptok> i cannot speak for my employer, but i am personally investigating hosting for an ubotu replacement.
[17:09] <mneptok> i'm waiting on the machine admin installing pysqlite to allow factoid use.
[17:12] <mneptok> personally, what we need are Python folks fixing things like the Bugtracker module.
[17:16] <Mez> someones gonna need to talke over from me soonish, I'm gonna be heading out into the rain
[17:19] <ikonia> Mez: it's like a tropical storm at the moment
[17:19] <Mez> ikonia, I think it's stopping here to be fair ...
[17:19] <ikonia> Mez: hopefully it will drift up to me
[17:20] <ikonia> as in the stopping
[17:20]  * Mez cant remember where you are ikonia 
[17:20] <ikonia> Bath 
[17:20] <ikonia> but I'm in reading at this exact moment
[17:20] <Mez> but yeah, bout half an hour ago, it was a tropical rainstorm
[17:20] <Mez> ikonia, my UK geography is crap - I know where reading, London and Birmingham are ;)
[17:21] <ikonia> Mez: I gave you the reading hint l)
[17:21] <ikonia> ;)
[17:21] <Mez> I know it's north
[17:21] <Mez> thats about all I know
[17:21] <Mez>  :P
[17:22] <Seeker`> Bath in just south of the M4
[17:22] <Seeker`> near bristol
[17:22] <Mez> Seeker`, read above
 ikonia, my UK geography is crap
[17:22] <ikonia> Mez: between reading and birmingham ;)
[17:22]  * Mez has no idea where the M4 or bristol is
[17:22] <Seeker`> Mez: You are in Reading?
[17:22] <Mez> Seeker`, yes
[17:22] <Seeker`> the M4 runs through reading
[17:23] <mneptok> Mez: where are you from originally?
[17:23] <Seeker`> it carries on heading in that direction until it is well into Wales
[17:23] <Mez> Seeker`, I don't drive.
[17:23] <Mez> mneptok, Birmingham
[17:23]  * mneptok blinks
[17:23] <Seeker`> Mez: The M4 starts in london, and heads straight through reading
[17:23] <Mez> (Birmingham, UK)
[17:23] <Mez> Seeker`, thanks - I'll try and remember that
[17:23] <mneptok> and your UK geography is crap? hell, your whole country is like one of our states! :P
[17:23]  * mneptok beeps Mez's nose
[17:24] <Mez> o_O
[17:24] <Myrtti> mneptok: it's the density
[17:24] <Mez> mneptok, yeah I know - my geography in general sucks
[17:24] <mneptok> Myrtti: yeah, i here complaints of that a lot regarding Midlands folks >:)
[17:24] <Myrtti> >:-D
[17:25] <Mez> mneptok, lol
[17:25] <mneptok> Mez: i know UK geography better than you. as a trade-off, i often forget to wear pants, and lose my car keys daily. your call on what path you want. ;)
[17:25] <Myrtti> I know where Liverpool, Blackpool and London are
[17:26] <Mez> mneptok, doint forget to wear clothes, but... lose everything all the time, can walk up the stairs or into another room and forget what I went there fro
[17:26] <Myrtti> and I know which is Wales and which is Scotland :-P
[17:26] <mneptok> Blackpool moves depending on who you talk to.
[17:26] <stdin> I'd rather be wearing pants not knowing where I am than not wear pants but knowing where I am
[17:26] <mneptok> if you ask a Lancastrian, they'll say, "Can't we move that to Wales?"
[17:27] <Mez> stdin, lol
[17:28] <ikonia> Myrtti: !forget liverpool
[17:28] <Myrtti> My workwear today has been: longsleeved SuSE t-shirt and pink H&M boxers.
[17:29] <Myrtti> oh and socks.
[17:29] <ikonia> Myrtti: I hope your working from home
[17:29] <Myrtti> how'd you guess ;-)
[17:30] <mneptok> you're Finnish?
[17:30] <Myrtti> yeah
[17:30] <mneptok> being out in public dressed like that is like the Finnish national nightmare.
[17:30]  * Mez was thinking that too
[17:30] <Myrtti> mneptok: it is
[17:30] <mneptok> it's almost as bad as smiling where someone might see you.
[17:30] <Myrtti> I wish my webcam would work
[17:31] <Myrtti> I don't know how to make it work
[17:31]  * Mez needs to read more than one line at a time
[17:31] <Myrtti> then youd see me smiling
[17:31] <mneptok> Myrtti: are you a Swedish-Finn?
[17:32] <Myrtti> nope, though I do speak swedish and actually enjoy it
[17:32] <ikonia> query can ubotu read sqlite3 ?
[17:32] <ikonia> or ubot5 I should say
[17:32] <mneptok> maybe that's enough to lower the "smiling on webcam" resistance
[17:32] <Myrtti> not that I've had that many chances
[17:33] <Myrtti> it's either that or that I'm a Leo :-P
[17:33] <mneptok> because if you're willing to let the world see you smile, and you're in Finland, you're: a). a swedish-finn | b). sami | c). a tourist | d.) drunk
[17:33] <mneptok> and it's too early to be drunk, even for Finns
[17:34] <Myrtti> tomorrow is may day eve
[17:34] <Myrtti> everybody should be piss drunk by this time tomorrow
[17:34] <Myrtti> I know few of my colleagues started on Saturday
[17:34] <mneptok> those IV drips take a while to kick in ...
[17:36]  * Mez is no longer active in -classroom
[17:36] <Myrtti> I'm the invisible pink unicorn anyway
[17:36] <Myrtti> so I might break some rules while at it
[17:39] <Myrtti> Female feminist Finn using Xubuntu, a greenvalued INFJ at the heart, loves bash, sed, latex and emacs, used to know too much about overclocking hardware and knits.
[17:39] <Myrtti> besides, smiling for a webcam is so much safer than smiling outdoors
[17:39] <Myrtti> nobody's intrested in webcams anyway
[17:40] <Mez> Myrtti, I dunno - I've seen a few interesting things on webcams before
[17:44] <ikonia> ok, an opinion, I'd like to remove the bug1 information from the !windows response.
[17:44] <ikonia> am I being too picky ?
[17:46] <Myrtti> yes
[17:46] <ikonia> ok
[17:46] <ikonia> !disks
[17:46] <Myrtti> that's about the only pricky thing I'd allow the factoids have about windows
[17:47] <Myrtti> its a bug submitted by sabdfl so it's more or less an official statement
[17:48] <ikonia> no no, I appriciate that, I'm just thinking of a.) provocotive, b.) not really called for when someone has mistakenly asked for something "windows" related
[17:48] <ikonia> I'm not arguing the content, more a case of needed info in a factoid and the potential for provocation
[17:49] <Myrtti> !windows
[17:50] <Myrtti> I'd suffle and reword it a bit
[17:50] <Myrtti> not sure what the better version would be
[17:50] <ikonia> ok, I'll ponder and show you the updates
[17:52] <ikonia> I think it can be a version of !vista
[17:52] <ikonia> !vista
[17:52] <Myrtti> it just might be a good idea to have some sort of review on the mailing list
[17:52] <ikonia> eg: windows help is here, if you want to move - check out this url
[17:52] <ikonia> well, my suggestion would be to put publish the updates for review comment/critisism 
[17:52] <Myrtti> yeah
[17:53] <ikonia> I've got rid of a few of the obvious outdated stuff
[17:53]  * pricechi1d finds out painfully that for some reason one of his special characters doesn't travel across from a different machine's ssh tunnel well, making ssk key useless.
[17:53] <Myrtti> those I think I can hack into ubot5 without any review
[17:55] <Myrtti> I just had about five hours long visit at our loco teams own core channel
[17:55] <ikonia> I'm about %40 through the db file, so I'll finish up ASAP and send it back
[17:55] <Myrtti> they were more intrested in playing teeworlds than in localisation of ubotu
[17:55] <Myrtti> and more intrested in localisation of teeworlds.
[17:56] <Myrtti> I felt like my head was exploding
[17:56] <Myrtti> I'm becoming too old and grumpy
[17:56] <ikonia> !synical
[17:56] <ikonia> perhaps it should ;)
[17:57] <Mez> ikonia, it's started again here... and I gotta go home in a sec :(
[17:58] <ikonia> Mez: it's here also
[17:58] <ikonia> xmms is gone from hardy yes/no
[17:58] <ikonia> I can't see it in the repos
[17:59] <jussio1> ikonia: gone afaik
[17:59] <ikonia> what was the name of the app that was built on the same base, but not xmms
[18:00] <ikonia> there is a factoid recommending xmms, but if it's now gone, should perhaps put in an alternative
[18:00] <Myrtti> !audio
[18:00] <Myrtti> ikonia: audacious, beep-media-player
[18:00] <ikonia> audacious it is, already got beep
[18:01] <Mez> Someone to -classroom pleasE?
[18:02]  * Mez is outta here
[18:02] <Myrtti> oooo webcam works
[18:02] <Mez> lol @  Myrtti 
[18:03] <mneptok> LjL: meep
[18:05] <ikonia> what is fujistu's new nick
[18:05] <ikonia> want ?
[18:05] <ikonia> went ?
[18:05] <mneptok> wgrant
[18:05] <ikonia> ta
[18:05]  * mneptok completes the summoning with a chicken
[18:06] <jussio1> ikonia: there is xmms 2...
[18:07] <Mez> ikonia, sudo apt-get install xmms2
[18:07]  * gnomefreak wonders how people go from on topic to something totally off the wall not even close to topic 
[18:09] <jussio1> gnomefreak: people are random...
[18:09] <gnomefreak> i see
[18:09] <gnomefreak> brb
[18:11] <ikonia> jussio1: Mez I did think about xmms2 but it's not really like xmms so it seems a bit miss-leading
[18:11] <Myrtti> it is
[18:11] <Mez> o_O
[18:27] <ikonia> query, peoples opinions on having the bot remember "facts" about people
[18:28] <ikonia> eg:
[18:28] <ikonia> !hobbsee
[18:28] <ikonia> is that sort of thing wanted, or should it be cleared out ?
[18:30] <jussio1> !hobbsee | ikonia
[18:30] <ikonia> ....is that a hint ?
[18:30] <ompaul> well the question is what is the stick ;-) it is at this stage a very old joke
[18:30] <ikonia> I was only using that one as an example
[18:30] <ompaul> jokes really don't need to be there to be honest
[18:30] <ikonia> I'm querying as ubotu is being re-implimented should it be cleared out of the "gag" stuff and just "factoid stuff"
[18:31] <ompaul> but they add some life to -ot
[18:31] <ompaul> then again should the bots be used for that
[18:31] <ikonia> as house keepings going on, seemed a good time to ask the question
[18:31] <ikonia> ompaul: hence why I'm stuck/querying others
[18:31] <ompaul> not given the amount of traffic they incur it all adds up
[18:31] <jussio1> it should be !hobbsee-#ubuntu-offtopic
 !registerthebot
[18:31] <jussio1> or we should have a dedicated -offtopic bot
[18:32] <ompaul> who owns the bot?
[18:32] <jussio1> nalioth: currently we have some technical difficulties with that. its registered, but doesnt want to identify :/
[18:32] <jussio1> me..
[18:33] <ikonia> jussio1: do you want your name mentioned in the "owner" factoid, as I've put owned and managed by the ubuntu name space irc operators
[18:33] <ikonia> (paraphrasing_
[18:34] <ompaul> blame the ops - reasoning is this: if it fails to work one of the others who share the backend will be called into service
[18:34] <jussio1> ikonia: thats fine. I dont care about it,but you can put whatever seems right. possiibly its a good idea for contact purposes
[18:34] <ompaul> jussi01, the ops will know who 
[18:34] <mneptok> jussio1: did you check out the existing ubotu code from Launchpad?
[18:34] <ikonia> jussio1: I can include you, I thought putting in the -ops channel meant there would be $someone available to deal with a bot query
[18:34] <jussio1> fyi, hobbsee has shell access to the machine also
[18:34] <ompaul> ack
[18:34] <jussio1> ikonia: perfect. 
[18:35] <ikonia> so if I can return to your thoughts on the !people or !fun factoids ?
[18:36] <mneptok> ikonia: please don't put a lot of effort into things now?
[18:36] <ikonia> mneptok: I'm just having an update/clear out of the DB, 
[18:36] <ikonia> it seemed like a good time as I was %50 through before ubotu went
[18:36] <jussio1> ikonia: dont think they really matter atm, until I have enough time to get to the bot. like tomorrow. 
[18:36] <mneptok> ikonia: oh, the existing db?
[18:37] <ikonia> mneptok: yes, 
[18:37] <mneptok> ikonia: add nothing about owner info.
[18:37] <ikonia> jussio1: I'll leave them in, can always be removed later, although it's always easier to "mass" clean as minor things get forgot about
[18:37] <mneptok> ikonia: as clearly that is not settled. keep things like who to contact, who to ask about, yadda ... to a minimum
[18:37] <ikonia> mneptok: I'll paste the exact line
[18:38] <ikonia> I didn't think seaves would want to get pinged about it
[18:38] <mneptok> ikonia: no need. if you are cleaning, clean out contact info about anyone.
[18:38] <jussio1> I would just say contact #ubuntu-ops
[18:39] <mneptok> jussio1: i think that is even pushing it.
[18:39] <jussio1> there are enough people who know about it in here.
[18:39] <ikonia> This bot is owned & operated by IRC operators for the ubuntu namespace. For any questions regarding it please join #ubuntu-ops and ask
[18:39] <jussio1> mneptok: why?
[18:39] <mneptok> IRC Council? CC?
[18:39] <mneptok> ops? individuals?
[18:39] <ikonia> perhaps the word "owned" should be removed
[18:39] <mneptok> none of that has settled in the dust. and it will have to.
[18:40] <jussio1> yeah
[18:40] <ikonia> and just "operated"
[18:40] <ikonia> I would hate to cause offence to seaves
[18:40] <ikonia> updated
[18:40] <mneptok> just remove it. factoids can be added again later.
[18:40] <ikonia> fair enough 
[18:42] <mneptok> it's far easier to what what happens and add factoids than edit the entire db again.
[18:42] <mneptok> what what?
[18:42] <mneptok> i need more coffee. or less.
[18:42] <jussi01> whois ubot5 
[18:42] <jussi01> oops
[18:43] <ompaul> mneptok, as someone said - no more coffee for me I am getting palpitations, I told them they obviously had not got the heart for it ....
[18:43] <ompaul> dum dee dum
[18:43] <mneptok> well, nothing's buting through my chest wall yet, so ...
[18:43] <mneptok> *busting
[18:44] <ompaul> it may be abutted to your chest wall though .....
[18:44]  * ompaul hands mneptok some number 5 coffee
[18:49] <gnomefreak> yay bug plugin go ubot5 :)
[18:49] <ikonia> !pastebin
[18:49] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[18:49] <gnomefreak> yay
[18:50]  * gnomefreak goes off for a happy smoke
[18:50] <ikonia> ok, the pastebin is gone too
[18:50] <jdong> paste.ubuntu.com's always aroung...
[18:50] <ikonia> that was my next question
[18:50] <ikonia> well pre-empted
[18:51] <ikonia> may want to check the topic in #ubuntu and others for that too
[18:54] <ikonia> Myrtti: http://alesi.projecthugo.co.uk/ubuntu-factoid-db.bz2
[18:54] <gnomefreak> oh that sright
[18:54] <gnomefreak> thats*
[18:54] <Myrtti> ikonia: I'll look it over when I've got the time
[18:55] <ikonia> Myrtti: no problem. 
[18:56] <Myrtti> !paste
[18:56] <gnomefreak> that link works fine
[18:56] <Myrtti> goah, I can't remember how an alias was done
[18:56] <Myrtti> !forget pastebin
[18:57] <gnomefreak> looks like whats wrong with  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[18:57] <Myrtti> !pastebin is <alias> !paste
[18:57] <Myrtti> hjääääällp
[18:57] <ikonia> Myrtti: paste is an alias of pastebin
[18:57] <ikonia> not the other way around
[18:58] <gnomefreak> that should do it
[18:58] <ikonia> !paste
[18:58] <ikonia> see it's updated
[18:58] <gnomefreak> who fixed it?
[18:58] <Myrtti> I did?
[18:58] <gnomefreak> no
[18:58] <gnomefreak> lol
[18:58] <gnomefreak> not in here
[18:59] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[18:59] <ikonia> ooooh
[18:59] <gnomefreak> oh thats not good
[18:59] <Myrtti> !unforget pastebin
[18:59] <gnomefreak> sweet
[18:59] <Myrtti> *shrug*
[18:59] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[18:59] <ikonia> ???
[18:59] <gnomefreak> unforget works
[19:00] <ikonia> the db you sent me has paste and flood as an alias to pastebin
[19:00] <Myrtti> I didn't know which way it was
[19:00] <Myrtti> :-P
[19:00] <Myrtti> so I fixed the first factoid that was complained about
[19:00] <Myrtti> X-D
[19:00] <gnomefreak> the new one is first the one you want it to use is last
[19:01] <gnomefreak> !paste
[19:01] <gnomefreak> yep its linked right this time
[19:01] <Myrtti> no it's not
[19:01] <ikonia> paste now appears to be it's own factoid
[19:01] <Myrtti> yeah well the factoid's link is correct
[19:01] <gnomefreak> yes it is !paste is reading from !pastebin
[19:01] <Myrtti> no it's not
[19:01] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[19:01] <Myrtti> different, see
[19:01] <gnomefreak> oh
[19:01] <Myrtti> different factoids
[19:01] <gnomefreak> i see 
[19:02] <gnomefreak> link pastebin to paste than
[19:02] <Myrtti> I would if remembered the syntax
[19:02] <gnomefreak> !pastebin is <alias> paste
[19:02] <Myrtti> !forget pastebin
[19:02]  * tonyyarusso high-fives gnomefreak over health-induced opping breaks
[19:02] <gnomefreak> there you go
[19:02] <Myrtti> !pastebin is <alias> paste
[19:02]  * gnomefreak high-fives tonyyarusso back
[19:02] <Myrtti> /me smacks forehead
[19:02] <Myrtti> !pastebin
[19:03] <gnomefreak> we dont have editors anymore?
[19:03] <tonyyarusso> There should be a rule - no op is allowed to be healthy for more than 24 consecutive months.
[19:03] <gnomefreak> or was that bot not DB
[19:03] <gnomefreak> lol i can go for that
[19:03] <Myrtti> I've got no idea what you're talking about
[19:03] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: one thing at a time ;)
[19:04] <Myrtti> !no pastebin is <alias> paste
[19:04] <Myrtti> stjuuuupid bot
[19:04] <gnomefreak> in thorey it should work with alias now
[19:04] <Myrtti> !unforget pastebin
[19:04] <gnomefreak> ubot5: make up your mind would ya
[19:05]  * gnomefreak was far from thinking that :)
[19:05] <Daviey> !botabuse | gnomefreak 
[19:05] <Daviey> :)
[19:05] <gnomefreak> Daviey: he abused himself first
[19:05] <Myrtti> I'm getting a headache
[19:05] <gnomefreak> :)
[19:05] <Daviey> gnomefreak: without photo's, no abuse took place.
[19:05] <jdong> why does the bot encourage avoiding adding KDE factoids
[19:06] <Myrtti> /me goes back to build Myrtti cam
[19:06] <jdong> *puts on big flamesuit and runs*
[19:06] <gnomefreak> jdong: hes avoiding pastebin too
[19:07]  * gnomefreak needs to wrap head around schroot since dchroot doesnt like me anymore
[19:08] <ompaul> fakerbakeroot
[19:11] <nalioth> lordriddleyspie
[19:14] <tonyyarusso> treeroot?
[19:14] <ikonia> rootbeer
[19:15] <Myrtti> for crying out loud
[19:37] <ompaul> jcastro, mind if I pm?
[19:38] <jcastro> ompaul: sure
[19:43] <ompaul> !logs
[20:05] <Amaranth> Should canonical hostmasks have access in classroom?
[20:05] <Amaranth> I think yes
[20:06] <Amaranth> It's not like we're being stingy with access there, all ubuntu members get access already
[20:07] <Myrtti> AHHAHHAH
[20:07] <Myrtti> the cam works
[20:10] <ikonia> Myrtti: can we change the !help factoid - on a temporary basiss
[20:11] <ikonia> something along the lines of "I'm being updated/transitioned at the moment, my database will be back to working order shorlty" and remove teh ubuntu-nl link
[20:12] <ikonia> the !help and !bot factoids please
[20:12] <ikonia> (they are linked It hink )
[20:12] <ikonia> linked
[20:13] <Myrtti> which is which?
[20:13] <ikonia> looking
[20:14] <ikonia> Myrtti: the factoid is ubotu
[20:15] <ikonia> Myrtti: both are linked to that
[20:15] <Myrtti> !ubotu
[20:16] <ikonia> lots wondering why it's out of sync and where ubotu is - so just a maintaince style message would help a lot
[20:17] <Myrtti> I think there was a good answer in the old ubot5 database
[20:17] <Myrtti> I can't remember it though
[20:20] <Myrtti> no ubotu is <reply> I am ubot5, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, updated and transitioned to his new looks in the near future
[20:21] <ompaul> hahahaha
[20:21] <ompaul> does humour belong in bots - you bet it does
[20:22] <ompaul> perhaps saying something like
[20:22] <ompaul> I have no brain to browse at the moment
[20:25] <ompaul>  can anyone fix this? <ubot5> ompaul: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
 ompaul: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:25] <ikonia> ompaul: doesn't that only work with !no
[20:25] <ikonia> (I'm reading the code at the moment)
[20:27] <ompaul> ikonia, the call I made on the bot was: ompaul> ubot5 is getting an education - not all factoids are in there yet
[20:28] <ompaul> then it got stroppy ;-)
[20:28] <ikonia> ompaul: where you trying to teach the bot that factoid or just messing around ;)
[20:30] <ompaul> I was passing a comment i
[20:30] <ompaul> it should only throw one error message was what I was thinking
[20:30] <ikonia> ah
[20:30] <ompaul> i.e. if not valid 
[20:30] <ikonia> I thought you where trying to train it
[20:30] <ompaul> tell me to browse brain
[20:30] <ompaul> na
[20:30] <ompaul> I wouldn't have the skillz
[20:30] <ompaul> :P
[20:30] <ikonia> you are l33t
[20:31] <ompaul> someone in -devel was looking for it so I did !ubotu and then was explaining what went on and it barfed that at me ;-)
[20:31] <ikonia> ah
[20:32] <Myrtti> !no ubotu is <reply> I am ubot5, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new, gorgeous looks in the near future
[20:32] <Myrtti> !no ubotu is <reply> I am ubot5, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new, gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[20:33] <Myrtti> !ubotu
[20:33] <Myrtti> !ubotu > nanonyme
[20:34] <Myrtti> !bot
[20:39] <ompaul> whats the kde gksu thing?
[20:39] <mneptok> kdesu
[20:39] <ompaul> thanks
[20:42] <Myrtti> [22:42] < rodserling> I heard seveas' hair created so much static, he  electrocuted himself and now is vacationing in australia
[20:42] <ompaul> argh
[20:42]  * ompaul gives up
[20:42] <Myrtti> they start to sound like @bauerisms
[20:43] <Myrtti> or...
[20:43] <Myrtti> now what was that...
[20:43] <Myrtti> oh well.
[20:45] <ompaul>  @myrtti - it is said that if you utter her name withing an irc channel with a spelling difference of no more than four characters she knows ;-)   
[20:45] <Myrtti> hehe
[20:47] <Myrtti> !o4o
[20:47] <Myrtti> !offtopc
[20:48] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[20:48] <Myrtti> should we put him in -ot?
[20:50] <Myrtti> ompaul: ^
[20:52] <Myrtti> I think we should
[20:53] <Myrtti> jussio1: 
[20:54] <ompaul> I think we should
[20:54] <ompaul> !o4o
[20:55] <nalioth> before we get much further, we need to figure out where to put the db so it's publically available
[20:55] <nalioth> so that ubotwo and ubot3 can by in sync
[21:02]  * jussio1 walks in for a moment
[21:02] <jussio1> nalioth: I can put the db on jussi01.com
[21:03] <jussio1> tomorrow, when I have a little time to look at all this
[21:08] <jussio1> nalioth, its there now.  http://jussi01.com/ubuntu.db
[21:10] <Myrtti> now also at http://myrtti.fi/temp/ubuntu.db
[21:11] <jussio1> Myrtti: the jussi01.com one will always be up to date, as its the actual one in use. 
[21:11] <Myrtti> jussio1: always?
[21:11] <Myrtti> ie. hotlink?
[21:11] <jussio1> Myrtti: yep
[21:11] <Myrtti> eeeexcelllent
[21:12] <Myrtti> /me rubs her hands together
[21:12] <Myrtti> so now people can set up cronjobs to download snapshots
[21:13] <jussio1> :D
[21:14] <Myrtti> whut :-P
[21:22] <nalioth> yes, i've been running a cronjob that synced with seveas' db
[22:08] <tonyyarusso> Say, anyone know approx. when repos open for Intrepid?
[22:10] <LjL> nalioth, ubotwo won't be in sync with anything unless i find out why it starts thrashing my box
[22:10] <LjL> i just started it because some channels needed coverage and other bots weren't around
[22:12] <tonyyarusso> LjL: If you do, let me know.  My supybot occasionally jumps to 100% CPU as well, but not right away.
[22:12] <LjL> tonyyarusso, also fills messages.log with exceptions?
[22:14] <Myrtti> do I get that kind of wrinkles to my forehead? funny
[22:15] <tonyyarusso> LjL: haven't looked.
[22:18]  * jussio1 walks in
[22:27] <jussi01> ok, ubottu is identified and sorted :D
[22:28] <jussi01> nalioth: ^
[22:28] <Jucato> jussi01: how do I add a factoid (in PM and in public)?
[22:28] <Myrtti> Jucato: hugs and kisses for me
[22:28] <jussio1> Jucato: the same as normally... !factoid is bleh
[22:28] <Myrtti> Jucato: then I might do it ;-)
[22:29] <Myrtti> jussio1: you ruined it
[22:29] <Myrtti> curse you
[22:29] <jussio1> sorri :/
[22:29] <Jucato> jussio1: and in private?
[22:29] <Jucato> Myrtti: better luck next time :P
[22:29] <Jucato> !gestures-#kubuntu is <reply> KDE has a built-in support for mouse gestures. See http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3086781.0 for a quick howto
[22:29] <jussio1> Myrtti: I had to load a plugin to dothe identify.. fyi
[22:30] <jussio1> Jucato: drop the reply, you need to add that after
[22:30] <Jucato> ah ok :)
[22:30] <jussi01> stupid supybot bug
[22:31] <Jucato> heh :)
[22:31] <Myrtti> jussio1: so I could've done it only if I had found the correct plugin to load?
[22:31] <jussio1> yes
[22:31] <Myrtti> jussio1: or did you have to download it
[22:32] <jussio1> Myrtti: no, it was there all the time
[22:32] <jussio1> its called, suprisingly, Services :D
[22:32] <Myrtti> I did load it.
[22:32] <jussio1> no you didnt... or you unloaded it..
[22:33] <Myrtti> [15:19] <Myrtti> @load Services
[22:33] <Myrtti> [22:33] <jussio1> meh, I dont know then
[22:33] <jussio1> I had to load it again. and then do some funky stuff
[22:33] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[22:33] <jussio1> and now it loves me
[22:36] <Myrtti> if I paste the URL to the Myrtti cam, the whole world will /. my site.
[22:36] <ompaul> Myrtti, no just this channel initially 
[22:36] <ompaul> Myrtti, then -ot
[22:36] <Myrtti> then the whole world
[22:36] <ompaul> ok
[22:37] <Myrtti> I knowz it
[22:37] <ompaul> and then we gzip the path and it gets there
[22:37] <Myrtti> the url is very difficult to guess anyway
[22:37] <Myrtti> since it appends cam
[22:37] <cheeseboy> anyone in here forum staff?
[22:37] <LjL> maybe
[22:37] <Myrtti> perhaps
[22:38] <LjL> although #ubuntuforums might give you better luck, too
[22:38] <cheeseboy> :/
[22:38] <jussio1> cheeseboy: seriously, #ubuntuforums is the place
[22:40] <ompaul> !envy
[22:41] <ompaul> is it replying to msg yet
[22:41] <jussio1> ompaul: should be
[22:41] <jussio1> its now identified
[22:41] <Myrtti> !envyng
[22:42] <ompaul> jussi01, I see messages from none identified people
[22:42] <Myrtti> ompaul: but still, it is identified
[22:42] <Myrtti> !envy > ompaul
[22:42] <jussio1> ompaul: just worked for me...
[22:42] <ompaul> >ubotu< envy     <<   no reply
[22:42] <jussio1> its 2 t's
[22:42] <ompaul> ahhhhhhhhhh
[22:42] <jussio1> :)
[22:43] <Myrtti> again one factoid that needs to be changed
[22:43] <ompaul> the bots name has changed
[22:43]  * ompaul scratches his head
[22:43] <Myrtti> well the thing is
[22:44] <Myrtti> !bot
[22:44] <Myrtti> jussio1: you're ruining it all now, arent ya
[22:44] <Myrtti> ;-)
[22:45] <jussio1> oh... you poor thing... :P
[22:45] <jussio1> !info supybot hardy
[22:45] <jussio1> :D
[22:46] <LjL> robust
[22:46] <jussio1> I need to change it to point at hardy repo...
[22:46] <LjL> user friendly
[22:46] <LjL> sorry if i don't laugh
[22:46] <LjL> but i'm too busy laughing
[22:46] <jussio1> LjL: lol
[22:47] <Myrtti> you make my face wrinkly
[22:51] <LjL> Myrtti: it's the second time you say that... what can i do if i can result in no change to your face - i try
[22:52] <LjL> ok look
[22:52] <LjL> i need to restart the floodbots
[22:52] <LjL> pastebin doesn't exist anymore, for a start
[22:52] <jussio1> oh... ouch
[22:52] <LjL> but the floodbots have had some relatively heavy upgrades since they were last started
[22:52] <Myrtti> /me remembers a proverb about those slick italians wooing every blond nordic girl around
[22:52] <LjL> so please help me keeping an eye
[22:53] <LjL> Myrtti, i'll try to find some for you
[22:53] <LjL> no guarantees
[22:53] <Myrtti> awwww
[22:53] <Myrtti> make sure they use emacs instead of vim
[22:53] <LjL> ew, you're restricting the field
[22:54] <LjL> you're talking about italians
[22:54]  * jussio1 huggles Myrtti... no shes mine! :P :P
[22:54] <LjL> i mean, they came to terms with typewriters
[22:54] <PriceChild> cheeseboy: still looking for someone?
[22:54] <LjL> but that was recently
[22:54] <cheeseboy> PriceChild, ya forum staff
[22:54] <PriceChild> cheeseboy: uu you are in #ubuntuforums, lets talk there
[22:56] <Myrtti> /me pats cheeseboy gently on the tush. Off you go now
[22:57] <ompaul> !idle 
[22:57] <ompaul> wow
[22:57] <ompaul> that is there
[22:57] <ompaul> ;-)
[22:59] <LjL> no, that wasn't intended
[22:59] <PriceChild> Myrtti: you use 'tush'?
[23:01] <PriceChild> I think I need to be modifying my theme to add a separate statusbar..
[23:07] <PriceChild> I'm giving jussio1 access in here so he can mute/unmute bots if need be.
[23:07] <tonyyarusso> makes sense
[23:09] <Myrtti> anyways
[23:09] <Myrtti> tis /cam/
[23:09] <Myrtti> though now it only shows a picture of my bed and desk
[23:09] <Myrtti> perhaps tomorrow mez and mneptok can see a smiling Finn too
[23:10] <jussio1> ok, Im off to bed. good night all!
[23:10] <Myrtti> nightey
[23:10] <jussio1> PriceChild: thanks. thats great.
[23:11] <ompaul> night jussi01 
[23:11] <ompaul> good work people - nice to see a bit of focus on a really productive thing
[23:20] <nalioth> PriceChild: the bots can be configured to not talk in here unless they are relaying a factoid request
[23:20] <nalioth> !ubotu
[23:20] <nalioth> ubot3 ubutu
[23:20] <ubot3> Factoid ubutu not found
[23:20] <nalioth> like that ^^^
[23:21] <ompaul> !ubuntu
[23:22] <PriceChild> ah, sorry. I wasn't aware of that, thought they would respond to !s here as we used to have to mute them
[23:22] <nalioth> - ubot3 has never been muted in here
[23:23] <ompaul> maybe they should all be encouraged to talk here - so we can see if there are issues anywhere
[23:23] <ompaul> %btlogin
[23:23] <nalioth> we can put them in a bot channel 
[23:23] <ompaul> or does that lock me out?
[23:23] <nalioth> is there a ban tracker now?
[23:23] <ompaul> ahh 
[23:23] <ompaul> doh
[23:23]  * ompaul falls over
[23:23] <PriceChild> I had a bantracker working on the bot I set up on hobbsee's machine.
[23:24] <PriceChild> Could help someone get that going if wanted.
[23:25] <ompaul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekhardy/UpstreamKernels that would make a brilliant doing a custom kernel better to make it into a single wiki page - one thing is it a bit sparse on is the supporting stuff for git 
[23:40]  * elky_work hums as she fills out the timesheet... yay for money day
[23:40] <ompaul> night all