[00:01] <Volkodav> bug # 1 is not a bug
[00:02] <Volkodav> that's the way it's always been - simple is on the surface - just buy it and you good
[00:03] <Volkodav> who the heck wants to edit xorg.conf ?
[00:08] <Volkodav> http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[00:08] <Volkodav> I normally let them read this too http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/winstupid/winstupid1.php
[00:09] <TheSheep> um, yes, bt this is a support channel
[00:09] <TheSheep> and you are preaching to the choir
[00:10] <Volkodav> that's a good reading anyway
[00:11] <TheSheep> a little old :)
[00:11] <Volkodav> bet you 95 % see it first time
[00:12] <kdat> TheSheep, thanks for your help, i will see it tommorrow
[00:14] <TheSheep> Volkodav: second, first was in 2005
[00:15] <TheSheep> the second one is actually more than 6 years old
[00:16] <TheSheep> yay! Knuth uses Ubuntu :)
[00:18] <Volkodav> 6 years old? was there ubuntu back then?
[00:19] <TheSheep> no, ubuntu is pretty young
[00:21] <TheSheep> Volkodav: ubuntu is not for mimicking windows, but it's aimed at the same user base
[00:21] <TheSheep> well, some of it at least
[00:22] <TheSheep> I guess other distros do the corporatey part better
[00:23] <Volkodav> corporate part ?
[00:23] <TheSheep> managing large deployments of workstations, for example
[00:23] <TheSheep> and large numbers of users
[00:24] <Volkodav> was sudo and no root account by default part of playing the winblows game too?
[00:24] <TheSheep> not that ubuntu can't do it, it just doesn't have ready prepared solutions
[00:24] <TheSheep> no
[00:25] <Volkodav> ?
[00:25] <Volkodav> yes maybe a right answer?
[00:25] <TheSheep> it turned out to be a better way for keeping users out of the admin account
[00:25] <TheSheep> otherwise everyone would just log in as root and stay that way
[00:25] <Volkodav> why keep them out?
[00:25] <TheSheep> because staying root is dangerous, potentially
[00:26] <TheSheep> and not necessary for everyday work/play
[00:26] <Volkodav> they will learn that it is not the way things done on our side
[00:26] <TheSheep> they? our?
[00:27] <Volkodav> yeah - because it is windoze practice to run as root
[00:27] <Volkodav> any install demands root account
[00:27] <TheSheep> not really, in Vista even the admin has limited rights
[00:27] <Volkodav> that's where the learning starts
[00:28] <TheSheep> well, you need r access to install software on linux too - at lest the prepackaged programs
[00:28] <TheSheep> s/r/root/
[00:28] <Volkodav> and instead you type your user acoount
[00:29] <Volkodav> ?
[00:29] <TheSheep> Volkodav: the application has to ask you for the password to do anything with root rights
[00:29] <TheSheep> and not all users can use sudo
[00:30] <TheSheep> if you think about it, it's better, you also get better audit -- you know who ran the sudo
[00:30] <Volkodav> I will never agree to sudo concept with no root account
[00:31] <Volkodav> first thing after install I do is sudo passwd
[00:32] <TheSheep> Volkodav: if you like it, it's your business
[00:32] <TheSheep> Volkodav: just remember to disable loggin to root through ssh if you ever install an ssh server though -- ubuntu doesn't have this option enabled by default because you cannot log in as root anyways
[00:32] <Volkodav> btw anybody uses deluge? This thing has been crashing on me all day]
[00:33] <Odd-rationale> Volkodav: have you tried transmission?
[00:33] <Volkodav> ssh is the second thing I do after sudo passwd
[00:33] <Volkodav> transmission us ugly and poor on features
[00:34] <TheSheep> rtorrent is pretty nice if you have greater torrenting needs :)
[00:35] <Volkodav> rtorrent is kewl
[00:35] <Volkodav> also how do I start in init 3?
[00:35] <Volkodav> I sometimes do not need X on certain sessions
[00:35] <Odd-rationale> transmission has a cli i think
[00:36] <TheSheep> Volkodav: on debian all user runlevels are the same
[00:36] <TheSheep> Volkodav: you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1
[00:36] <Volkodav> rtorrent and screen does the job for me - deluge seems to be buggy or it is just me
[00:37] <Volkodav> I mean from grub to add say 3 to kernel option or so
[00:37] <Volkodav> to bypass gdm completely
[00:37] <TheSheep> Volkodav: that will work, but still init 3 is the same as init 5 by default
[00:38] <Volkodav> yeah but 3 does not work
[00:38] <TheSheep> Volkodav: you can of course edit /etc/rc.d
[00:38] <Volkodav> in debian does
[00:38] <Volkodav> looks like it boots in init 5 no matter way
[00:38] <TheSheep> works just fine
[00:39] <Volkodav> what works fine?
[00:39] <TheSheep> booting into different runlevels, they are just all the same
[00:40] <TheSheep> I think that ubuntu will be finally going away from the whole System V init system
[00:40] <Volkodav> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-16-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet 3
[00:40] <Volkodav> if I add 3 here it still boots in init 5
[00:45] <Volkodav> and how do I get xfce menu on desktop's right click like it is supposed to be instead of gnome's "create his create that:
[00:48] <TheSheep> Volkodav: there is an option in the 'behavior' tab of the 'desktop settings'
[00:50] <Volkodav> why did they click it off anyway? It was always on by default
[00:51] <TheSheep> not in xubuntu
[02:00] <Caplinux> How do I install XFCE in Ubuntu to allow me to select that window manager when I start ubuntu.  I want to be able to switch between GNOME and XFCE
[02:29] <Weedy> i installed ubuntu, nuked gnome and installed xfce
[02:30] <Weedy> so how do i get the windows partition (sda1 ntfs) to popup in thunar and stuff
[03:03] <Stroganoff> Weedy: sudo apt-get install thunar-volman
[03:03] <Stroganoff> let Thunar handle this..
[03:09] <Ahmuck> .
[03:11] <Weedy> Stroganoff: thunar-volman is already the newest version.
[03:11] <Stroganoff> Thunar -> Settings -> Advanced
[03:12] <Stroganoff> and make sure you uninstalled gnome-volume-manager
[03:13] <Stroganoff> or add your windows partition to fstab
[03:13] <Stroganoff> or reinstall with this if you want lightweight http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631 :p
[04:11] <yoyoma> hello, i've got xfce running on ubuntu 8.04... how do i get compiz effects working?
[04:23] <Weedy> very carefully
[05:18] <c0de> hi
[05:18] <c0de> anybody out there who would like to help me with a little font problem?
[05:19] <c0de> the problem is that in some apps the fonts really look nice but with other apps too "blurry"
[05:46] <CM_Burns> Hi, I just installed 8.04 and I had a question about getting wireless to function properly...anyone available to help with that?
[05:48] <Odd-rationale> !wireless | CM_Burns
[05:48] <Odd-rationale> CM_Burns: what card you got?
[05:49] <CM_Burns> 1 card and one USB adapter...the card is a Linksys WPCG54 G v.2
[05:49] <CM_Burns> The USB adapter is a netgear WG111v2
[05:50] <CM_Burns> Both can see wireless networks, but both (usually) fail to connect to a secured network.
[05:50] <Odd-rationale> CM_Burns: so both show up in iwconfig?
[05:51] <CM_Burns> checking...
[05:53] <CM_Burns> I think so...I'm not good at reading the output.  There is a wlan0 and a wlan1 entry that seem to be different wireless cards.
[05:54] <CM_Burns> Both cards do show up in the GUI network tool.
[05:55] <Odd-rationale> so sometimes you can connect?
[05:56] <CM_Burns> I have connected a few times to an unsecured router on the Linksys card.  But it does not work everytime.
[05:56] <CM_Burns> I don't think I'm doing anything differently, so it is a mystery to my why it only sometimes works.
[05:57] <CM_Burns> On the USB adapter, I connected once to a secure network using WPA2, but I couldn't get any data to download.
[05:58] <CM_Burns> However, on the USB, I could only get the connection once...now when it tries to log on, it gives up after a minute or so.
[06:03] <Odd-rationale> CM_Burns: so you wireless is working but just not connecting?
[06:05] <CM_Burns> Partially working at least, if seeing available networks and occasionally connecting passes as "working".
[06:06] <CM_Burns> I should add though, that the Linksys card does not have an option for WPA/WPA2 security, but the USB card does, which is confusing...
[06:07] <Odd-rationale> CM_Burns: Ok. that is over my head then. sorry. :( try the forums.
[06:07] <CM_Burns> thanks anyways...
[06:52] <Yashy> Just upgraded to Hardy Heron, nv glx seems to be messed up, where it was working before with an nvideo 6150 card. Xorg.0.log error: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:23] <teohhanhui> Can anyone help me with printing to a shared Windows USB printer?
[09:39] <ere4si> !cups
[09:39] <ere4si> !lag
[10:23] <jo4___> does Xubuntu use gdm or xfwm?
[11:40] <dee_cz> hi
[11:41] <dee_cz> :/
[11:45] <albuntu> i've done a very stupid thing... and i don't know how to fix it.  a couple of weeks ago i decided to add kde desktop to my ubuntu laptop.  immediately it was causing probs.  in my infinite(esimal) wisdom i opend synaptic and markd for removal everything that started with a k.  uhhhhh, guess that wasn't the right ticket.  now i can boot up.  i would just reinstall from a disk, but my cd drive...
[11:45] <albuntu> ...doesn't seem to be reading them.  arrrrrrrggggghhhhhh.  any possibility of getting any help with this?  i bought a round trip ticket to panama for $36 from miami for this friday. and i'd really like to take my old laptop with me.
[11:46] <albuntu> i meant to say: now i CAN't boot up, of course.
[11:47] <totalwormface> hehe
[11:47] <totalwormface> there are guides around for removing DE's :P but i guess that's too late now
[11:47] <TheSheep> albuntu: it doesn't even start in recovery mode?
[11:47] <totalwormface> albuntu: how far _can_ you boot up
[11:47] <TheSheep> I guess you removed the *K*ernel
[11:48] <totalwormface> lol
[11:48] <totalwormface> yeah, the kernel is stupid kde stuff :P
[11:48] <albuntu> don't know how to get to that.  just powered it on, and get this: invalid configuration information-please run SETUP program.  strike f1 to cont, f2 to run setup
[11:49] <totalwormface> wow
[11:49] <totalwormface> you messed up :
[11:49] <albuntu> ya, maybe it was the *K*ernel :(
[11:49] <TheSheep> albuntu: um, that's probably a message from bios
[11:50] <albuntu> is there a way to open xterm and do some mumbo jumbo to it?
[11:50] <albuntu> :)
[11:50] <totalwormface> should he be able to chroot into that install with a live cd?
[11:50] <TheSheep> albuntu: just go into the bios setting (that setup with f2) and set everything to what you actually have in that laptop -- or restart to factory settings
[11:52] <TheSheep> albuntu: that's not related to removing packages, btw
[11:52] <TheSheep> albuntu: either you messed up the bios settings somehow or there is a hardware failure
[11:52] <albuntu> hmmmm.  the boot order was set to floppy first, then hdd, then cdrw, i've pushed cd up, maybe it will take a disk now
[11:53] <albuntu> i am sure i had it set to boot from cd first, could it have reverted on its own?
[11:58] <albuntu> i put xub alt installer in, said grub loading, then ERROR 15: File not found, press any key to continue.  would you say it's still not reading the disk?
[12:00] <albuntu> press any key gets me a three choice menu, ub 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode), and lastly memtest.  did you say choose recovery mode?
[12:00] <TheSheep> albuntu: yes, that's grub from the hard disk trying to boot kernel that is not there anymore
[12:00] <albuntu> recovery mode: file not found.......... arrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhh
[12:01] <TheSheep> albuntu: there are more ways to boot it than cd
[12:01] <TheSheep> albuntu: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[12:02] <albuntu> i think its hardware prob with cd.  what would you suggest next?
[12:02] <albuntu> i go look
[12:02] <TheSheep> either troubleshooting the hardware problem or trying one of the other installation methods
[12:02] <totalwormface> (did you set boot from cd in the bios settings?)
[12:03] <albuntu> totalwormface: ya
[12:03] <totalwormface> crap :[
[12:04] <albuntu> ya
[12:07] <albuntu> i wish i would have started working on this earlier, but i was too embarrased to say what i did :)
[12:08] <albuntu> now what i don't get is WHY it won't boot either from an external iomega drive i just hooked to it by usb.  would that be a different setting in the bios?
[12:13] <floating> format and install xubuntu 8.04 :P
[12:17] <floating> hmmi
[12:18] <floating> do you have any other OS on cd-rom ?
[12:18] <floating> than the xub alt
[12:20] <floating> put that usb in the boot order thing
[12:32] <albuntu> floating, sorry i was away... yes, i have centos, dsl, opensuse, puppy, gnewsense, gnewstep, ututu
[12:33] <albuntu> let me see if the centos live reads
[12:34] <albuntu> i know is a hardware prob cause cd drawer wont eject
[12:35] <albuntu> got it open, and put suse live in, won't run
[12:36] <Xubuntu> hi
[12:36] <Xubuntu> i have one question about start xubuntu with a particular resolution...anyone to help ?
[12:43] <albuntu> am i still here, or did i get bumped here too ... what a morning
[12:43] <albuntu> floating, it won't even read dsl
[12:47] <albuntu> guess i need to buy a flash drive and try that method
[13:14] <alado2> is there a way of getting around typing in the password when i want to use hdparm (sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sdb1) to shut down one of my disk
[13:23] <KOJV> I've got two screens (just found another 19" CRT next to a dumpster, yes, people are crazy around here) and in Windows, dual screens work fine. But as I set the two at 1280x1024@75Hz in Xubuntu, reboot and they get a lower on-screen resolution though the desktop is still 1280... so I've gotta "scroll" around to the edges. What's up with that? Thanks!
[13:23] <KOJV> But as I set the two at 1280x1024@75Hz in Xubuntu, reboot and they get a lower on-screen resolution though the desktop is still 1280... so I've gotta "scroll" around to the edges. What's up with that? Thanks!
[13:25] <alado2> is there a way of getting around typing in the password when i want to use hdparm (sudo hdparm -Y /dev/sdb1) to shut down one of my disks?
[13:30] <dreamlusion> hello people
[13:31] <dreamlusion> is it possible to feed apt-get from stdin?
[13:31] <dreamlusion> (or aptitude, dpkg)
[13:31] <dreamlusion> i want to mass remove some packages
[13:51] <cody-somerville> Heya maxamillion
[13:53] <maxamillion> morning cody-somerville
[13:53] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: i've quasi learned wxPython :)
[13:53] <maxamillion> cody-somerville: had to learn a cross platform gui toolkit to write a program for a class and i wanted to code in python and still get native looking code :D
[13:55] <cody-somerville> lol
[13:56] <maxamillion> the professor kept trying to "sell" the idea of java ... i didn't want any part in it
[13:58]  * cody-somerville likes Java.
[13:58] <maxamillion> i don't *dislike* java ... i just much prefer to code in python
[13:58] <maxamillion> i've become kind of a python addict
[14:09] <KOJV> As I enable my secondary screen in Xubuntu and reboot, my two screens get a lower on-screen resolution though the desktop is still 1280... so I've gotta "scroll" around to the edges. What's up with that? Thanks!
[14:11] <cody-somerville> KOJV, Just update the resolution settings :)
[14:12] <KOJV> cody-somerville, how to update? Enter the settings and click OK?
[14:12] <cody-somerville> You'll probably have to logout
[14:13] <KOJV> cody-somerville, I even rebooted.
[14:14] <cody-somerville> You'll need to update the settings to use the resolution you want it to
[14:38] <albuntu> i am having trouble with screen res on an old dell laptop, is very bad.  can someone remind me how to get into the xorg file with mousepad?
[14:50] <cody-somerville> albuntu, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:02] <omega1> hello
[15:02] <omega1> i have a problem
[15:03] <omega1> can anyone help me set my soundcard?
[15:03] <omega1> with alsa?
[15:15] <albuntu> cody-somerville: i got into xorg.conf, and changed the default depth to 16 from 24, but still not getting a very crisp resolution on that old laptop, is it possible it just don't get no better?  or is there any other tweak or setting i could do?
[15:15] <cody-somerville> Is it the text or everything?
[15:17] <albuntu> well,  hmmm... the text was REAL bad b4 i changed to 16
[15:17] <albuntu> its *some* better for sure, but just not crisp.  it
[15:19] <cody-somerville> Okay.
[15:19] <albuntu> its doing another odd behavior i've never seen, which is when i try to open 'display settings' the window just blinks on and off, and i can't get in to toggle between the offerings.  i notice the one on the bottom starts with 320 x something, and at the top, just below 'default' is 800 x something
[15:20] <cody-somerville> Okay
[15:20] <cody-somerville> You need to change your monitor
[15:20] <albuntu> is old laptop
[15:21] <albuntu> but not that old, i just RIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPed a 'made for windows 98' sticker off it, and cut it up into little shards, before properly disposing of it
[15:22] <albuntu> cody-somerville: do you think that's the best its gonna do?
[15:23] <cody-somerville> In the settings :P
[15:23] <albuntu> ummmm, don't understand; you mean something in the xorg?
[15:27] <albuntu> ok, i got the blinking thing to stop blinking long enough to set the res to 800 x 600 and it was WORSE, so i went back to default, but i don't know what 'defautl' actually is
[15:27] <albuntu> default
[15:28] <albuntu> cody-somerville: but what you said about changing the monitor, did you mean changing some setting in the xorg?
[15:35] <albuntu> if the dell startup screen, and then the splash image are much cleaner, wouldn't that mean that the monitor is capable of better performance?
[15:46] <KOJV> How come I have no sound in Xubuntu though I have it with the Live Ubuntu CD_
[15:47] <KOJV> How to chkdsk in Xubuntu?
[15:48] <KOJV> / #ubuntu
[15:58] <omega1> can anyone help me with my soundcard?
[15:59] <omega1> i cant get it to work altough modrpobing ir gives no error
[16:00] <omega1> then when i start mp3 blaster, it tells me failed to open sound device..
[16:02] <omega1> i can reload alsa all i want but still no sound
[16:03] <omega1> according to dmesg no isa pnp card is found...
[16:20] <PsynoKhi0> heya
[16:30] <PsynoKhi0> how do I prevent dpkg from trying to install openjdk-jre-headless? got thqt stuff trying to install xubuntu-restricted-extras i hardy
[16:31] <PsynoKhi0> it's been popping up everytime I've tried to install something since then
[16:32] <TheSheep> dpkg --clear-selections or something like that
[16:37] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: thanks, will see how it fares
[16:49] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: nope, still same error message?
[16:49] <PsynoKhi0> -?
[16:49] <TheSheep> error message?
[16:50] <jgamio> hi everybody
[16:51] <jgamio> this morning I used the update manager and know my sound is gone, somebody have the same problem ?
[16:51] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: Configuring  openjdk-6-jre-headless, Illegal instruction, then "blablabla error 132"
[16:52] <jgamio> in the sound properties the device is empty and my sound card is not there some clue ?
[16:55] <PsynoKhi0> TheSheep: nvm I was sure I had removed it, it was still marked as installed in Synaptic
[16:55] <omega1> console>> asoundconf list
[16:55] <TheSheep> jgamio: what kind of card is it?
[16:55] <omega1> look if its listed there
[17:00] <PsynoKhi0> or maybe "lsmod | grep snd" to check if the modules have been loaded
[17:00] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[17:01] <jgamio> ﻿TheSheep nothing special the sond from the motherboard I think is a via
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> jgamio: do you see it if you type lspci?
[17:03] <jgamio> this morinig was working fine but after i update the sistem
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> in a terminal
[17:03] <TheSheep> jgamio: I use via too and it works :/
[17:04] <jgamio> ﻿TheSheep i didnt have problem before this is the first time
[17:04] <jgamio> ﻿PsynoKhi0 what i need looking for
[17:05] <TheSheep> jgamio: do you have /dev/dsp ?
[17:05] <jgamio> ﻿TheSheep no
[17:06] <PsynoKhi0> jgamio: something that looks like a soundcard heh... like AC97
[17:06] <TheSheep> dmesg doesn't have anything suspicious?
[17:06] <jgamio> ﻿dmesg what is that ?
[17:07] <jgamio> ﻿PsynoKhi0 yes i have a C97 Audio Controller
[17:07] <TheSheep> jgamio: a command that displays you the kernel messgaes since last boot
[17:07] <zoredache> dmesg tells you a lot of information the kernel reports
[17:08] <jgamio> ﻿TheSheep how i can check that ?
[17:08] <zoredache> at a terminal type 'dmesg' or look at the file /var/log/dmesg
[17:28] <voodoo> i'm trying to change my time, but time-admin doesn't let me unlock root privileges..
[17:28] <voodoo> also tried to run time-admin as root
[17:28] <voodoo> unlock button was disabled
[17:28] <voodoo> and still I could not change the time
[17:30] <voodoo> how do I bypass the unlock button?
[17:33] <cleokat> Hi! I need help installing flash player plugin
[17:43] <omega1> amd 64 or x68
[17:43] <omega1> ?
[17:43] <omega1> or x86?
[17:43] <omega1> just use synaptic... and install the package..
[17:43] <omega1> normally works..
[17:43] <cleokat> hmm good question
[17:44] <cleokat> I'm an absolute begginer, had xubuntu for a month or so...
[17:44] <TheSheep> it's the flashplugin-nonfree package, works on both i386 and amd64
[17:45] <omega1> jep but there was an issue with 64 bits flash ..
[17:45] <omega1> i figured it out in a day.. used a backport x86 package and then it worked..
[17:46] <cleokat> ok, see I just found synaptic..
[17:46] <cleokat> let's see
[17:46] <omega1> search flash..
[17:46] <omega1> then install:)
[17:46] <omega1> nothing to it..
[17:46] <omega1> maybe a reboot thats all..
[17:47] <cleokat> installing..
[17:50] <voodoo> why don't I have any file in /usr/include? i have 'gcc' installed
[17:51] <voodoo> (and 'libc6')
[17:51] <MacHaddock> ok I have a resulusion problem with hardy heron
[17:51] <cleokat> it worked, perfect! So simple, I really have some deep reading to do! Thanks a lot!
[17:52] <MacHaddock> I installed hardy heron on my dell inspiron 2600
[17:53] <MacHaddock> the problem is that everytime there seemed to be something wrong with the drivers for the grafics card. So I couldn't see anything. Eventually I managed to get it installed in safe grafic mode (I think it was anyway)
[17:54] <MacHaddock> but now the resolution is really small and I can't change it. Is there a magic command line input to fix this or what do I do?
[17:55] <MacHaddock> When I go to xfce settings manager and then display there is only default to choose from and that's not the one I need apparently
[17:59] <MacHaddock> is there no one there that knows anything about this problem?
[18:19] <Nostah1> hi all
[18:20] <Nostah1> i jsut burnt the new ubuntu
[18:20] <Nostah1> rebooted on my laptop
[18:20] <Nostah1> its finding the drivers for my atheros wifi
[18:20] <Nostah1> but not loading tthem or something
[18:20] <Nostah1> all the commands i use show it there exept for iwconfig or ifconfig
[18:20] <Nostah1> any idea's?
[18:21] <voodoo> can you copy/paste the output of iwconfig
[18:21] <voodoo> ?
[18:21] <Nostah1> its just your basic  lo  eth0   no wireless extntions
[18:25] <omega1> lol
[18:26] <omega1> could be that its nog up or something
[18:26] <omega1> not up..
[18:26] <Nostah1> how do i pull it up if it dosnt have a eth0 or ath0 or some sort of name
[18:28] <PsynoKhi0> hey again, shouldn't Modes "widthxheight_refresh rate" be the rightsyntaxt to force refresh rates for the given display mode?
[18:32] <voodoo> Nostah1, i suppose your wirless is not disabled
[18:32] <voodoo> (i have a keyswitch for that)
[18:32] <voodoo> do you know the drivers for your wireless?
[18:33] <voodoo> try inserting them manually
[18:33] <Nostah1> it auto detected the card
[18:33] <Nostah1> and enabled them for me in restricted drivers thing
[18:33] <voodoo> are the drivers loaded?
[18:34] <Nostah1> said enabled
[18:34] <Nostah1> how do i check
[18:35] <voodoo> lsmod
[18:35] <voodoo> lists the modules loaded into kernel
[18:35] <voodoo> root@voodoo-laptop:~# lsmod | grep wifi
[18:35] <voodoo> iwlwifi_mac80211      219108  1 iwl3945
[18:35] <voodoo> cfg80211               15112  1 iwlwifi_mac80211
[18:37] <omega1> iwconfig?
[18:37] <omega1> or try dmesg if its listed there its loaded..
[18:39] <voodoo> Nostah1, search for madwifi
[18:40] <voodoo> if it's not there try inserting it: mdoprobe madwifi
[18:40] <voodoo> *modprobe madwifi
[18:40] <Nostah1> k
[18:40] <Nostah1> im writing down cause i have to reboot to the cd
[18:44] <floating> what should you do check when your audio isnt working for the first time ?
[18:46] <voodoo> if it's not muted ;)
[18:47] <floating> next :)
[18:47] <voodoo> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[18:47] <floating> or, maybe there is some meta mute
[18:47] <floating> meta mute, sounds nice
[18:47] <voodoo> any noise?
[18:48] <floating> /dev/dsp device or resource busy
[18:48] <floating> is that supposed to make random noise ? :o
[18:48] <voodoo> yep
[18:49] <floating> heh, maybe i try it when it works, wodner what might come out
[18:49] <voodoo> i was...i get the same error (but i'm listening music)
[18:49] <floating> ah, actually i have audio playing from youtube , but i dont hear it
[18:49] <floating> i stop it and try
[18:49] <voodoo> i think that's something related with firefox
[18:50] <floating> still busy^^
[18:50] <voodoo> kill firefox also, first
[18:50] <floating> busy after that too
[18:50] <voodoo> interesting ... i works for me
[18:50] <floating> i have a terminal and a abiworld doc open
[18:51] <voodoo> i get this strange white noise
[18:51] <floating> i wonder where i can check those alsa and other settings
[18:51] <floating> or some logs.. varlogmessages and dmesg dont show anything but
[18:53] <floating> vlc gives no audoi
[18:55] <voodoo> i dunno, try rebooting or something... to get rid of that app blocking your /dev/dsp
[18:56] <floating> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart hmmp
[18:56] <floating> checking google for some debhg
[18:57] <floating> debuggin
[19:00] <Weedy> bored
[19:07] <floating> jopp restarting x got em back
[19:17] <voodoo> anybody installed vmware on xubuntu hardy?
[19:17] <voodoo> i get some compilation error
[19:18] <voodoo> http://pastebin.com/d27b7a43f
[19:27] <floating> questioon: on xubuntu hardy, that (totem) movie player is the default player for liek all multimedia even after installing vlc.. where can i change vlc to be default.. hard to find teh setting
[19:28] <floating> blah, why didnt i go google first :P
[20:12] <Iskr> floating, it is very simple
[20:12] <Iskr> go to properties of files
[20:12] <Iskr> that you wanna play with vlc
[20:12] <Iskr> and change default application
[20:24] <RandyboY> What do i have to do to be able to see videos ment for Windows Media Player in Opera? The video plays like 1-2 seconds in Firefox and stops...
[20:39] <PsynoKhi0> RandyboY: using mplayer plugin in FF?
[20:40] <RandyboY> PsynoKhi0, dont know what plugin is used there... i havent installed anything, but it just works there
[21:44] <Nostahl> so what do you guys think of the new release
[21:48] <maxamillion> Nostahl: i think its a vast improvement over the last one ... the project is back on track and much more focused on things that matter now that the project has a solid leader
[21:49] <Nostahl> i use to run debian alot on my desktop's but since i bought a laptop i have been using vista
[21:49] <Nostahl> because toshiba says partitioning or reformating voids warrenty heh
[21:50] <maxamillion> ouch
[21:50] <Nostahl> my desktops are stored away and disassembled now so i dont get the urge to suck down a ton of power anymore heh
[21:51] <maxamillion> i run a combination of debian and fedora actually ... i used to do development work for xubuntu, but i stopped a while back and swore of *buntu... but now that the project lead has changed, i am considering coming back
[21:52] <r3b> does anyone know about enabling PAE in Xubuntu Hardy?
[21:52] <crimsun> you'd need to use the -server kernel.
[21:52] <crimsun> (if you don't want to recompile, that is)
[21:53] <crimsun> CONFIG_X86_PAE=y
[21:53] <Nostahl> my interest in ubuntu stems from being a computer tech and wanting to get comfortable with a linux os that clients may start asking me about etc
[21:53] <r3b> can i the server kernel apt?
[21:53] <r3b> can i *get*
[21:53] <cody-somerville> Nostahl, :)
[21:53] <crimsun> r3b: sudo apt-get install linux-server
[21:54] <r3b> k, thanks
[21:54] <r3b> i will be back in a bit. thanks for the help
[22:02] <voodoo> anybody knows how to make cuesheet plugin (audacious) work in xubuntu hardy?
[22:20] <cheeseboy> anyone here use conky?
[22:20] <seancron> cheeseboy: yes! great app
[22:21] <seancron> i use it to view my GMail on my desktop along with some system stats
[22:21] <voodoo> how do I play aac stream with audacious or  totem?
[22:22] <cheeseboy> how do i set width of it?
[22:25] <seancron> you have to edit your .conkyrc file
[22:25] <cheeseboy> i know that..
[22:26] <seancron> sorry it's been a while seen i made mine so i don't have it off the top of my head ill look though
[22:27] <seancron> maximum_width looks like the config setting you'll want to use
[22:28] <seancron> http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html may help you as well
[22:29] <seancron> does that help?
[22:49] <nikin> hy
[22:53] <ice109> can someone tell me where the standard c++ libraries are?
[23:48] <gnuskool> is compiz enabled by default in xubuntu?
[23:49] <seancron> i dont think so
[23:49] <seancron> being a lightweight distro i think that would be the opposite of what they are going for
[23:50] <gnuskool> seancron: fair enough, do you know a resource for external monitors on intel cards?
[23:51] <seancron> gnuskool: sorry not off the top of my head, i would think that a google might show something
[23:52] <seancron> gnuskool: what are you trying to do?
[23:53] <blackperl> my synaptic auto matically loads when i start X, and pops up and tell me i entered invalid password, how to stop it from poping out?
[23:55] <gnuskool> seancron: i got an external lcd that is only being shown in 600x800, i want to change it to higher than that
[23:55] <gnuskool> seancron: ive been reading on google since the hardy release
[23:58] <seancron> gnuskool: can you change it through the display settings?