=== ubottu is now known as ubotuu === ubotuu is now known as ubottu [08:13] morning [08:23] morning carlos [08:29] good morning, folks. [08:29] good morning, not-quite-so-afk-cprov. === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [08:32] one day, pidgin will handle IRC nicknames correctly. Maybe when its name change for the 3rd time. [08:33] one day, you'll use an application suited to it's purpose. [08:33] use xchat. i'ts nicer. [08:33] pidgin has always sucked for irc. [08:36] * mtaylor is away: going to sleep... very tired [08:38] Hobbsee: err ... not the way the world goes. I'd rather wait it to be fixed ;) [08:41] hello everyone [08:41] I'd like to say that arizona sofrware, the makers of iLocalize have been kind enough to give me a free license for iLocalize so that I can contribute polish translation of the cocoa interface [10:30] Gooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [10:30] evening mpt [10:30] wait. do i count as a launchpadder? [10:31] good evening from those of us who *aren't* launchpadders, then. === lamont` is now known as lamont [11:52] Hobbsee, you're one of the most prominent Launchpadders [12:00] <[0_A4Tech> hello [12:02] <[0_A4Tech> how i can get 100 CD ? :D [12:03] [0_A4Tech, see "How many CDs can I order?" at [12:04] <[0_A4Tech> ) [12:14] hello mpt [12:15] hello [12:36] mpt: oh. is that a good thing, or a bad thing? [12:36] no [12:38] * Hobbsee beats mpt with a stick. [12:38] mpt: "yes" and "no" are not the correct answers to a question containing "or" [12:39] "Yes" can be ambiguous for such a question. "No" is not. [12:40] so it's both not a good thing, and not a bad thing? [12:40] * Hobbsee shakes her head [12:42] hello Hobbsee [12:43] correct [12:43] heya poolie! What did you want before? I don't think i ever got back from you. [12:43] mpt: you're not one of my coworkers in disguise, are you? [12:43] * Hobbsee has seen this kind of reasoning before. [12:43] i don't recall [12:44] in random order [12:44] i'm sorry someone was a dick to you on irc [12:44] * Hobbsee nods [12:44] many are, i'm afraid. [12:44] i wondered what you would think of the understandability of https://code.staging.launchpad.net/bzr [12:44] gotta love it. or at least, not be driven mad by it. [12:44] * Hobbsee looks [12:44] compared to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/bzr [12:46] s/ There are download files available for Bazaar. / There are files available to download for Bazaar./ [12:46] what do the stars mean? [12:47] oh. mouseover shows all. [12:47] poolie: THe bright orange button burnt my retinas out, I'm afraid. [12:47] wgrant: that's because you live in the dark all teh time, isn't it? [12:47] And what's with the fake tooltip upon hovering over the last commit. [12:47] *? [12:47] Hobbsee: Shh. [12:48] poolie: it's certainly much better. === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:48] And it uses the security icon to indicate that the branch has errors. Maybe that's normal, and I just don't see broken branches much. [12:48] poolie: what do i use to get a feeling of which are the active, 'official', most used branches? [12:49] the download link is there because i suspect the 'code' tab name is confusing [12:49] people probably suspect that the source code might be there [12:49] poolie: i like the link idea, it just could do with a reword. [12:49] well, in tarball form [12:49] right [12:49] what, you mean it isn't? [12:50] it's there as branches, the tarballs are elsewhere [12:50] wgrant: is it really just the same icon as for security bugs? could be [12:50] `You can browse the source code for development focus branch, or get a copy of the branch using the command:' needs rewording, and the link should be extended, but other than that it's much better. [12:50] they look like tarballs/binaries for each of the release series to me.... [12:51] Hobbsee: the idea is that this page will highlight the most important branches by sorting them at the top [12:51] poolie: See the top right of bug #172440, for example. [12:51] Launchpad bug 172440 in wordpress "[CVE-2007-6013] Authentication cookies easily derivable from password hash" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172440 [12:51] so the development focus is at the top always and gets a star [12:51] poolie: any chance you could bold it, or something? [12:52] poolie: a lot of people appear not to see the tooltips [12:52] mm [12:52] Both I and Firefox disagree with the fake tooltips. [12:52] it used to be highlighted in grey :) [12:52] which is well meant but looks more like disabled than highlighted [12:53] wgrant: mm? [12:53] minor nitpick, but having all the icons of the bugs in line would be nice, rather than just lining up on the right hand side of that column. [12:53] right [12:53] wgrant: how are they fake? [12:53] Hobbsee: The 'Last Commit' column. [12:54] wgrant: oh. i hadn't moused over them, i'd only looked to see for the icons. [12:54] poolie, I proposed replacing the tooltipped star with text when I reviewed this for thumper [12:54] poolie: the star is generally unclear - until the mouseover, i have no indication about what it might be. [12:54] they're drawn as html elements, rather than toolkit level tooltips [12:54] You'll notice when you mouse over that Firefox stalls for a while, and the tooltips stick around for a while... [12:55] short of looking for a moon. [12:55] i kind of like the star :} but perhasp we should at least have text too [12:55] Hobbsee: :-) that would be nice [12:55] Should dormant branches be hidden by default? [12:55] yes they should [12:55] poolie: i do too, but text somewhere obvious about waht the star means, or a bold thing to make it more obvious, or something would be good [12:55] i think that is an unintended bug [12:55] Hm. [12:55] And checking that box stuffs the ordering. [12:56] Ah. [12:56] * Hobbsee sees no dormant branches there? [12:56] It uses the default sorting option. [12:56] I'm uncomfortable with a checkbox starting with "Hide" [12:56] i think we could show "series: bzr.dev - development focus" [12:56] mpt: Indeed. [12:56] I'd rather reverse it and have it start with "Show" [12:56] or maybe "Include" [12:56] poolie: something like that. [12:56] mpt: +1 [12:56] to me "show" is a bit ambiguous in "show only" or "show also" [12:56] Is the default ordering in the ordering