[00:06] <kahrytan> is the GTF tool trust worthy enough to create modelines?
[00:46] <kahrytan> Hello
[00:51] <bdmurray> kahrytan: hello
[00:52] <kahrytan> Im still working on my bug
[00:52] <bdmurray> what is it about?
[00:52] <kahrytan> bug 223835
[00:52] <kahrytan> oops wrong one
[00:53] <kahrytan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/220952
[00:54] <kahrytan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/220952
[00:54] <kahrytan> I read I should check xorg log. nv driver output allot of tests and possible modelines.
[00:57] <bdmurray> mmm
[00:57] <bdmurray> I was just gonna say something about ddcprobe output being useful too
[00:59] <bdmurray> kahrytan: are you using a 32 bit or a 64 bit kernel?
[01:00] <kahrytan> 32bit
[01:00] <bdmurray> could you add the full output of 'ddcprobe' as an attachment to your bug too?
[01:00] <kahrytan> lol nvidia doesnt spit out any modelines in log. uses autoselect
[01:00] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  I bet nv's report would be useful
[01:01] <kahrytan> ddcprobe not installed
[01:03] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  hows this http://pastebin.org/32918
[01:04] <bdmurray> I think it has the same relevant bits
[01:04] <kahrytan> lol
[01:04] <kahrytan> it generated modelines
[01:05] <snadge> what is the name of the package that controls the time settings? i have an issue with dual booting windows xp and hardy.. they're both set to automatic time sync, and my clock is way out when i reboot from windows back into hardy
[01:05] <snadge> im just trying to see if its already been reported
[01:06] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  does it matter i had nvidia turn on at probe?
[01:07] <snadge> i condider it a "bug" that ubuntu isnt automatically updating the time like i told it to.. and there must be some kind of localtime/utc issue (Which i have no idea how to configure)
[01:09] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  the nv gives more information like dot clock
[01:10] <bdmurray> kahrytan: I don't think it matters.
[01:11] <kahrytan> wouldnt nv log be better, given it did tests, output more information, and gave modelines for x to use?
[01:13] <bdmurray> It'd be best to add both, or almost everything you can then.
[01:13] <kahrytan> I uses gtf to make modelines too
[01:14] <albert23> snadge: You may want to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime?action=show&redirect=ChangeTimezoneHowto#head-31a2e864837bce9761bc0520026f78970d18afde
[01:14] <snadge> hmm.. why didnt someone tell me to edit /etc/default/rcS and change UTC=yes to no ;)
[01:14] <snadge> i will check that
[01:15] <albert23> snadge: that page tells you to change the UTC setting :-)
[01:16] <snadge> this one is difficult, the general consensus is that its a bug in windows.. it is fixable on windows, but the fix apparently doesn't work properly (100%) ;)
[01:24] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/220952 i added both.
[01:25] <bdmurray> great!
[01:25] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  X needs to detect the monitor better.
[01:26] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  thats why i added displayconfig-gtk. If someone has a problem as well, they can just select their monitor and it'll config xorg correctly . Right now, there is no template for the monitor.
[01:28] <kahrytan> bdmurray, i found Gentoo  wiki very helpful in this bug
[01:29] <kahrytan> bdmurray, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Widescreen_Resolutions_%28WSXGA%29
[01:32] <kahrytan> bdmurray,  How am i doing?
[01:33] <bdmurray> I think the information you've provided will help out the developers
[01:34] <kahrytan> The more information, faster the fix
[01:36] <kahrytan> But how accurate does ddcprobe or nv report things?
[01:37] <bdmurray> As I understand it, ddcprobe gets the values right from the monitor
[01:37] <bdmurray> However, not all monitors advertise their values right
[01:38] <kahrytan> I considered emailing viewsonic
[01:39] <kahrytan> I does report model and serial# right
[01:41] <kahrytan> ddcprobe did error on part
[01:41] <kahrytan> timing: 1024x768@87 Hz Interlaced (8514A)
[01:41] <kahrytan> Monitor doesnt do interlaced.
[01:41] <kahrytan> its in the specs.
[01:46] <kahrytan> time for a break from this.
[02:01] <ffm> Can I mark a bug that I cannot reproduce as incomplete until the user responds with more info?
[02:04] <greg-g> ffm: if you ask for more triaging info, yes
[02:04] <greg-g> and subscribe yourself to the bug
[07:21] <thekorn> bug 172507
[07:22] <thekorn> hmm, ENOBOT :(
[07:23] <secretlondon> yeah
[07:56] <secretlondon> thekorn: I'm getting error 104 when trying to use the 5-a-day applet
[07:59] <thekorn> secretlondon, hmm, that's an bzr error, can you please give me your /tmp/5-a-day-applet.txt
[08:00] <secretlondon> thekorn: URLError: <urlopen error (-5, 'No address associated with hostname')>
[08:00] <secretlondon> Committing Bug #217489 ...
[08:00] <secretlondon> Committing Bug #94009 ...
[08:00] <secretlondon> ... Finished with ErrCode 104
[08:00] <secretlondon> there was a python traceback before
[08:00] <thekorn> can you please paste me this traceback
[08:02] <secretlondon> thekorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8846/plain/
[08:02] <thekorn> thank you
[08:02] <secretlondon> I've not been able to submit a bug to 5-a-day for about a month. I removed the applet and installed the current version 'fresh' as a result of the tag bug I submitted
[08:05] <thekorn> :( I was able to reproduce this 'tag' bug
[08:06] <secretlondon> thekorn: I saw, and that was why I removed my 5-a-day applet and then reinstalled
[08:08] <thekorn> ok, your issue is unrelated to the traceback, I've a similar one, launchpad might have some connectivity problems this morning
[08:09] <secretlondon> it's been like this for a while
[08:09] <secretlondon> not just today
[08:09] <thekorn> the prbelem is we are loosing the information of the bzr-error somewhere so it's not easy to track this donw
[08:10] <secretlondon> I suspect this might be my internet provider blocking something :(
[08:18] <thekorn> james_w, hi, is there a list of all error-codes of 'bzr' available somewhere?
[08:37] <thekorn> secretlondon, there might be better debug information for your 104 error when the fix in bug 224568 is released
[08:42] <secretlondon> thekorn thanks
[08:47] <secretlondon> the motu have a bug bot called ubottu
[08:51] <thekorn> I see, this bot is also in several other #ubuntu-* channels but not here
[08:52] <secretlondon> nor in -announce
[09:26] <nico_> hi
[09:26] <nico_> anyone here ?
[09:27] <nico_> i just wanted to talk about a bug that's not really severe but probably confusing to newbies
[09:28] <nico_> it has been reported many times in different forms on the launchpad so i'm not sure it's useful to file it anew
[09:29] <nico_> i don't understand why it is not corrected yet since it has been reported at least since 2005 and it doesn't seem really complicated
[09:29] <AstralJava> nico_: Do you have bug numbers for these? No idea without looking at them first.
[09:30] <nico_> yes, i describe i first in a general way and then i send 3 or 4 urls that seem related to the same bug
[09:30] <nico_> it is related to the keyboard layout configuration
[09:30] <AstralJava> Okay.
[09:31] <nico_> if one want to change it from the gnome control center, it works once but after rebooting the keyboard comes back to the initial configuration
[09:31] <jaredbuck> hi all.
[09:31] <nico_> although the gnome control center still show the one chosen
[09:32] <nico_> to get the right keyboard, i had to check this file : /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/fr ( i guess other versions exist like /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ca or /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/en or /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ru etc.)
[09:33] <nico_> and find there which layout i want (just check the comments and the name after the keyword xkb_symbols)
[09:33] <nico_> and then report the name of the desired keyboard in xorg.conf just next to Option		"XkbVariant" in the keyboard section
[09:34] <nico_> then save xorg.conf and reboot and i get the right keyboard layout
[09:34] <nico_> i don't understand why the gnome control center doesn't manage it itself
[09:34] <nico_> so, here some urls :
[09:35] <jaredbuck> that sounds odd that it didn't manage it like it should.
[09:35] <nico_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-keyboard/+bug/196277
[09:37] <jaredbuck> i guess this bug is fixed isn't it?
[09:38] <nico_> well not in hardy
[09:38] <nico_> i mean, i installed hardy and have the problem as well as many others in forums
[09:38] <nico_> looks also a bit like it : https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/103111
[09:39] <nico_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/46046 (see last comments)
[09:40] <jaredbuck> yeah, i see the comments.  i don't think everyone's going to want to change their xorg.config file to fix the problem. but that's just me.
[09:41] <nico_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-control-center/+bug/173721
[09:42] <jaredbuck> all of those links report similar problems.
[09:42] <nico_> yes
[09:42] <seb128> nico_: what is your issues exactly?
[09:43] <jaredbuck> check those links he mentions.  keyboard layout issues, it seems ubuntu keeps switching back to a default layout after a reboot instead of remembering what was selected as the current layout before the reboot.
[09:44] <nico_> @seb128 : here's the whole description if one want to change it from the gnome control center, it works once but after rebooting the keyboard comes back to the initial configuration
[09:44] <nico_> although the gnome control center still show the one chosen
[09:44] <nico_> to get the right keyboard, i had to check this file : /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/fr ( i guess other versions exist like /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ca or /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/en or /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ru etc.)
[09:44] <nico_> and find there which layout i want (just check the comments and the name after the keyword xkb_symbols)
[09:44] <nico_> and then report the name of the desired keyboard in xorg.conf just next to Option  "XkbVariant" in the keyboard section
[09:44] <nico_> then save xorg.conf and reboot and i get the right keyboard layout
[09:44] <nico_> i don't understand why the gnome control center doesn't manage it itself
[09:46] <nico_> so i don't think it's a good idea to file a new bug report...
[09:46] <nico_> i hope this can be fixed, especially for newcomers
[09:47] <seb128> weird
[09:47] <jaredbuck> me too.  it would be annoying.
[09:47] <seb128> I've done a lot of hardy test installations
[09:47] <seb128> and all got azerty correctly configured as selected in the installer
[09:47] <nico_> yes
[09:47] <seb128> and using the gnome capplet to change the layout works correctly
[09:47] <nico_> ah
[09:47] <seb128> it just doesn't apply to your user
[09:47] <seb128> so not to the login screen
[09:48] <nico_> well the keyboard configuration was the one chosen during the installation
[09:48] <nico_> then i noticed i made a mistake and wanted another keyboard layout (without re installing)
[09:48] <nico_> then the problem showed up
[09:49] <nico_> i didn't try in the login screen
[09:49] <seb128> what problem?
[09:49] <seb128> there is "in the login screen"
[09:49] <seb128> go to system, preferences, keyboard
[09:49] <seb128> layout tab
[09:49] <seb128> add one
[09:49] <seb128> remove the one you had before
[09:49] <seb128> and you have the new layout
[09:49] <nico_> yes : that doesn't work
[09:49] <nico_> no
[09:49] <nico_> it just works once
[09:50] <nico_> when i did that, the next time i rebooted it switched again to the initial keyboard layout
[09:50] <seb128> did you configure several layout?
[09:51] <seb128> or only one?
[09:51] <nico_> only one
[09:51] <seb128> was the right layout still listed in the gui after the reboot?
[09:51] <nico_> yes, the layout tab from gnome-control-center is still right
[09:52] <seb128> gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd?
[09:53] <seb128> gconftool-2 -g /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active?
[10:00] <jaredbuck> it's the middle of the night here lol.
[10:12] <nico__> my nickname has been changed from nico_ to nico__ !
[10:12] <nico__> problem looking similar https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/19159
[10:14] <seb128> nico__:
 gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd?
[10:14] <seb128>  gconftool-2 -g /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active?
[10:14] <seb128> nico__: do you use GNOME?
[10:14] <nico__> yes
[10:15] <nico__> didn't you get my answers for these two commands ?
[10:15] <seb128> no
[10:15] <nico__> so here they are again :
[10:15] <nico__> gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd now gives :  layouts = [fr latin9]
  model =
  options = [lv3 lv3:ralt_switch,grp grp:alts_toggle]
  overrideSettings = true
 which is right since i configured it myself so in xorg.conf
 the second command gives :
 Aucune valeur définie pour « /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active »
 which means no defined value for « /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active »
[10:16] <seb128> all that is not good
[10:16] <nico__> i also added these things, if that can help :
 the xorg.conf keyboard section was Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
  Driver  "kbd"
  Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
  Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option  "XkbLayout" "fr"
  Option  "XkbVariant" "oss"
  Option  "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
 EndSection
  and never changed when using the gui
 i changed it to Section "InputDevice"
  Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
  Driver  "kbd"
  Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
  Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
  Option  "XkbLayout" "fr"
  Option  "XkbVariant" "latin9"
  Option  "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
 EndSection
 and it works
 i had to find the name of the right XkbVariant in  /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/fr
 the result of "gconftool-2 -g /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active" ( no defined value for « /apps/gnome-settings-daemon/plugins/keyboard/active ») looks weird, like something is not configured
[10:17] <seb128> ups
[10:17] <seb128> they renamed it
[10:18] <seb128> it's /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/keyboard/active now
[10:18] <nico__> ok, so i try again
[10:19] <nico__> it returns true
[10:19] <seb128> ok, so I've no idea what the issue is
[10:20] <seb128> you get no gnome-settings-daemon error on login?
[10:20] <nico__> no
[10:20] <nico__> well........
[10:20] <seb128> you might want to log into a non gnome session, run gnome-settings-daemon --debug --no-daemon and read if the keyboard plugin is correctly loaded
[10:20] <nico__> i must add that i run gnome-settings-daemon from e17 and gnome-control-center as well...
[10:21] <nico__> could that be related to e17 ???
[10:21] <seb128> yes, it could
[10:21] <seb128> e17 could have it's own config and apply it after GNOME
[10:21] <seb128> s/it's/its
[10:21] <nico__> then i try to log in with gnome and i check if the same bug shows up in gnome
[10:21] <seb128> good idea
[10:21] <nico__> i reconnect soon
[10:22] <seb128> change your xorg to a wrong value
[10:22] <nico__> yes
[10:22] <seb128> ok
[10:33] <nico_> well that's done
[10:33] <nico_> you're right
[10:33] <nico_> i made the change in the gnome control center from gnome and it lasted
[10:34] <nico_> i also checked the login screen but its layout remains the wrong one (which has not so much importance)
[10:34] <nico_> seb128 : are you still here ?
[10:35] <seb128_> re
[10:35] <nico_> seb128 : are you seb128_ ?
[10:35] <nico_> ok
[10:35] <seb128_> yes
[10:35] <nico_> i repost my answers :
 well that's done
 you're right
 i made the change in the gnome control center from gnome and it lasted
 i also checked the login screen but its layout remains the wrong one (which has not so much importance)
[10:36] <seb128_> ok, that's the expected behaviour
[10:36] <seb128_> as said the GNOME setting is an user one
[10:36] <seb128_> so it'll not change the system banner
[10:36] <james_w> thekorn: not really, IIRC 3 is user error and 4 is internal error, does 104 correspond to 4?
[10:36] <nico_> seb128_ : alright, that's why the xorg.conf has still the same value ?
[10:37] <seb128_> yes
[10:37] <nico_> ok
[10:37] <nico_> and it still works in e17, that's great
[10:37] <nico_> so i should remember to change my settings in gnome instead from e17 (though it worked well for the printer)
[10:37] <nico_> alright
[10:37] <nico_> thanks !
[10:43] <ogra> well, there are no e17 ubuntu packages ...
[10:44] <ogra> who knows what quality the ones are you use
[10:46] <nico_> i installed e17 from the repos
[10:46] <nico_> it's not e17 anymore sorry, it's enlightenment
[10:50] <nico_> well when i change the xorg.conf value, it fixes the login screen bug
[10:50] <nico_> as i wanted to use latin9 instead of oss keyboard layout, i guess it's no problem to change this xorg.conf value
[10:53] <seb128_> nico_: right, it's no issue
[10:53] <seb128_> nico_: the GNOME tool is there to configure a specific layout for your user
[10:53] <nico_> thx :)
[10:54] <nico_> if i chose the right value at install, then xorg.conf would also have it ?
[10:55] <narcan> nico_: why don't you use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:55] <nico_> oh yeah, that's an idea :o)
[10:56] <narcan> nico_: are on 8.04 ?
[10:56] <narcan> are your*
[10:56] <nico_> yes
[10:56] <narcan> you*
[10:56] <narcan> ok
[10:56] <narcan> the new xorg only configure mouse and keyboard with dpkg-reconfigure
[10:57] <narcan> so, no probleme with display :)
[10:57] <nico_> yep :o)
[10:58] <narcan> and its not a bug ^^
[10:59] <nico_> well i did that and it just changed the XkbVariant value as i wanted to
[11:00] <nico_> looks really like editing the xorg.conf
[11:11] <nico_> @narcan
[11:11] <nico_> i have to register before writing private msgs
[11:12] <nico_> and it doesn't work
[11:16] <thekorn> james_w, oh, sorry 104 is related to 5-a-day, I found 'bzr' error codes around 768 some time ago
[11:17] <james_w> thekorn: hi. is there some translation between what you see from $? and the return code seen in python? Or are they the same?
[11:19] <thekorn> 5-a-day is running bzr as a subprocess, so I think they should be the same
[11:22] <james_w> thekorn: I'm not sure then, sorry.
[11:23] <thekorn> np
[11:55] <jussio1> bug 1
[11:55] <jussio1> persia: ^
[11:55] <persia> jussio1: Thanks :)
[11:56] <jussio1> :)
[12:56] <narcan_> hi
[12:56] <narcan_> who use gedit ?
[12:56] <narcan_> have you got gedit who open on all desktop ?
[13:08] <erisdiskordia> Hi, over there! My ubuntu-alternate install seems to hang reproducibly when trying to set up a crypted partition...
[13:10] <erisdiskordia> Anybody know of similar problems (I was unable to find a similar bug in the launchpad database)?
[13:11] <james_w> erisdiskordia: you're not installing in kvm are you?
[13:11] <erisdiskordia> in what? I'm trying to install inside a virtualbox on mac os
[13:12] <james_w> that's ok, the only bug I have heard about like this was specific to kvm, which is similar to virtualbox
[13:13] <ogra> erisdiskordia, are you sure it hangs ? when i did my test install of it it took quite a while to zero out the partition before formatting
[13:13] <ogra> it seems slightly unresponsive doing that
[13:13] <ogra> s/doing/while doing/
[13:14] <erisdiskordia> no after that's finished it tries to start the partition manager and hangs at 47% for ever(?)
[13:14] <erisdiskordia> i let it run ca. 4 hours - no result
[13:15] <erisdiskordia> cpu usage was zero all the time
[13:15] <ogra> get /var/log/syslog from that instal and file a bug
[13:15] <erisdiskordia> how should I do this? It hanged, after all...
[13:15] <ogra> (with the syslog attached indeed)
[13:16] <ogra> you cant switch to tty2 ?
[13:16] <erisdiskordia> no
[13:17] <erisdiskordia> but I have the whole machine state (hdd, mem, cpu) as files
[13:17] <erisdiskordia> if you can tell me where I have to look I can fatch it perhaps
[13:17] <erisdiskordia> fetch
[13:20] <erisdiskordia> all state+hdd files together are about 150M, I shouldn't attach the whole thing...
[13:22] <ogra> well, the only intresting thing is the syslog file
[13:22] <ogra> which very likely holds the error message
[13:22] <ogra> what you can do is start over and switch to tty4 while the system still responds
[13:23] <ogra> the log is running there so you can propbably see the message while the error happens
[13:30]  * iulian looks around
[13:30] <iulian> Where is ubotu?
[13:31] <james_w> it's on holiday
[13:31] <iulian> bug #1
[13:31] <james_w> we have ubottu helping us out at the moment.
[13:31] <iulian> Ohh, I see his brother here.
[13:32] <james_w> bug #1
[13:32] <iulian> Hmm, broken?
[13:32] <ogra> LP is slow
[13:32] <james_w> it was working earlier
[13:32] <ogra> matter of luck i guess
[13:32] <ogra> it even takes ages to open a bug page atm
[13:33] <iulian> Indeed
[13:42] <shashi>  I am using Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit version, if i install any 32-bit applications like browsers, datbase clients ...etc. The 32-bit based applications not able to reach /etc/resolv.conf file to communicate to the network. Any one tell me how to resolve this issue ?
[13:47] <qense> Against which package should you report your bug when there are fewer resolutions detected than your monitor can handle
[13:47] <qense> The monitor I'm currently using can handle greater than 1024x768
[13:48] <qense> but that is the resolution that's used now
[13:49] <qense> ah, it's already reported
[13:54] <erisdiskordia> (ogra, james_w:) switching the console seemed not to work; i'll retry ;; the memory dump contains interesting stuff, tho: 'Cool computer, but...' or 'OMFG!!' ... lol!
[14:01] <james_42> can someone help me with some advice on Bug #155061?
[14:02] <james_42> it's a simple to fix bug, but I'm not sure what I need to do to test it. The typo is in a test case for if something goes wrong.
[14:02] <james_w> james_42: hi. What would you like to know?
[14:02] <james_w> what do you mean by test it?
[14:03] <james_42> test that my change to the code is working.
[14:03] <james_42> if it's just a typo, in an error message do I really need to test it?
[14:03] <james_w> I think that would be pretty hard to test, I'd just assume that it works.
[14:05] <james_42> ya, that's what I was thinking too
[14:05] <james_w> so you have prepared a patch?
[14:05] <james_42> I've looked at the diff file that I've created, and it shows the spelling correction
[14:05] <james_42> nearly finished everything I think
[14:06] <james_w> great
[14:06] <james_42> it's a bitesized bug, but it's my first  :-)
[14:09] <james_42> if the software program doesn't use a patching system, I just upload the diff file to comments for the bug right?
[14:16] <james_w> james_42: that would be a start
[14:41] <Kirrus> is ubotu having a bad day or something? Its not doing anything on -announce...
[14:41] <james_w> Kirrus: yup, it's on holiday
[14:41] <jpatrick> Kirrus: ubotu has gone
[14:41] <Pici> Kirrus: We're having issues with bots currently due to a bit of a situation
[14:42] <Kirrus> 'a bit of a suituation' sounds ominous... oh well, I guess back to the old-fassioned way of finding things to triage... thanks :)
[14:43] <Pici> It is :/
[14:44] <persia> ubottu has slightly different syntax.
[14:44] <persia> bug 6
[14:44] <persia> bug #6
[14:45] <persia> Err.  bug #1
[14:45] <persia> Err.  Nevermind.  I thought it did.  No idea why it didn't respond before.
[16:54] <james_w> is bug 219613 on the right package, or should it be gdm?
[17:01] <seb128> james_w: translations issues are usually assigned to language-pack-gnome-locale
[17:02] <seb128> james_w: so translators know about those, they can fix on rosetta and often they are in contact with upstream teams too
[17:37] <e\spe\n> question about headsett and sound! My headsett works perfekt in windows so its noting wrong with it BUT in 7.10 and hardy i cant use the microphone on the headsett but the mic on the screen actually works! I wonder i anyone know what to do ??
[18:37] <bddebian> Boo
[18:40] <secretlondon> hi
[18:42] <bddebian> Hello secretlondon
[18:55] <laga> hello.
[18:55] <laga> is there any way to make my see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/221176 i'm one of the mythtv maintainers in ubuntu and i'd like to triage it.
[18:55] <hwilde> anybody have a clue on error message " System error: Success"  ?  as you can imagine it's impossible to google anything relevant on success
[18:59] <james_w> hwilde: where does the error message come from?
[19:06] <bdmurray> laga: I'm not able to see it either
[19:07] <laga> bdmurray: and do you think you should be able to see it? #launchpad told me to ask here ;)
[19:07] <bdmurray> laga: let me check something
[19:08] <bdmurray> laga: it is an apport-crash report and the retracer is turned off so only apport and the reporter can view it
[19:09] <laga> bdmurray: okay, i'll go beat the reporter with a stick then. i still don't get why only the reporter and apport can see it, though
[19:09] <hwilde> james_w, when I start up my software it reads in some files, and for each one it says that (5k times)  then it finishes and runs normally
[19:10] <bdmurray> laga: I'll look into that
[19:11] <james_w> hwilde: this is something you wrote?
[19:14] <hwilde> james_w, yeah it works on all previous ubuntus, and it semi-works on 8.04, but it prints like five thousand errors
[19:14] <hwilde> james_w, it happens when it's reading in the map files  http://pastebin.com/m26fab78b
[19:14] <hwilde> james_w, ibinstream: Double read from 0x8145230/0x8145260 failed: 4
[19:15] <james_w> hwilde: it sounds like you (or a library you are using) are calling perror() on success, i.e. 0
[19:15] <james_w> ouch, looks nasty
[19:16] <james_w> what language is this, how are you reading the files? Through a library?
[19:19] <hwilde> it's either tcl or c++ let me see which module loads the files
[19:20] <hwilde> james_w, c++
[19:23] <hwilde> james_w, the scary part is I found a comment from may 2001  "The read into a stream appears to fail - have the ibinstream write and its this pointer becomes NULL after calling rdbuf()."
[19:25] <hwilde> but generically, why would anything ever say  "System error: Success"  ?
[19:29] <laga> bdmurray: can i tell the reporter to set it to public or are you still looking into it?
[19:32] <bdmurray> laga: I was looking into the problem in general so you could do that
[19:32] <laga> bdmurray: thanks!
[19:39] <james_w> hwilde: one way would be calling perror() on success, i.e. 0
[19:48] <james_w> secretlondon: hi. Did you do anything about bug 214929?
[19:48] <secretlondon> james_w I tried to ask in -motu this morning but no-one replied
[19:49] <james_w> secretlondon: I saw, and by the time I was going to reply you were gone, so I wondered if anything had happened since.
[19:49] <secretlondon> james_w debian have a similar bug, I know nothing about lib packaging to know
[19:49] <secretlondon> nothing happened since
[19:50] <james_w> ah, can you point me to Debian's bug please?
[19:50] <james_w> actually, it's ok, I should be able to find it
[19:51] <secretlondon> james_w there is also another soundtouch bug, and the linked bug with audacity
[19:52] <lesshaste> hi
[19:52] <lesshaste>  Hi, Can I ask about how to assign a bug to kernel? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/224561 has a note saying that but I don't know how to actually do it
[19:53] <james_w> secretlondon: got it all, thanks.
[19:53] <secretlondon> james_w I only have gprs internet but looking
[19:54] <bdmurray> lesshaste: it already is assigned to the kernel package for Hardy
[19:54] <james_w> secretlondon: the symlink would work for now I guess until we get a proper fix in Debian. I don't want to guess what they will do, but hopefully they will follow upstream, so it will all just start working with your configure changes.
[19:54] <secretlondon> james_w http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=476699
[19:54] <secretlondon> james_w audacity won't compile with my configure changes
[19:54] <lesshaste> bddebian: oh.. sorry I must have missed it. Thanks
[19:54] <secretlondon> so not changed as yet
[19:54] <secretlondon> debian really wants to have the later library, with upstream's pc file
[19:55] <bdmurray> lesshaste: maybe the commenter meant they are changing it to the kernel
[19:55] <lesshaste> OK.while I am at it.  I can't start Xgl at all in 2.6.24.. reported at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775475
[19:55] <lesshaste> Should I make a new bug for that too?
[19:55] <secretlondon> but then some other packages also depend on the library, and they may been looking under the other name
[19:55] <james_w> secretlondon: thanks for your work on it. I'm subscribing the the lp bugs, if you get any reaction from Debian, or indeed no reaction the please don't hesitate to ping me and we'll get a solution.#
[19:56] <lesshaste> bddebian: apart from no X, no networking and DVD drive errors flooding the screen, 2.6.24 works great :)
[19:56] <secretlondon> I posted my findings to the debian bug this morning, people there were still thinking it was just a matter of build deps
[19:56] <dudus> hello if a bug is already fixed in new version should I set it as invalid or Fix Released?
[19:56] <dudus> Also whats the difference between fix released and fix commited?
[19:57] <james_w> lesshaste: you probably want to open a bug against the driver for the Xgl problem
[19:57] <bdmurray> dudus: you can learn about bug statuses at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
[19:57] <lesshaste> james_w: ok.. as it is fglrx is that worth doing or does that come in the "unsupported" category?
[19:58] <james_w> lesshaste: fglrx + Xgl is not something many people are interested in, correct. I think that it's worth doing though.
[19:58] <lesshaste> james_w: ok thanks
[19:59] <dudus> bdmurray: that's what I needed thanks
[20:04] <lesshaste> james_w: ok reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xgl/+bug/224878
[20:07] <lesshaste> bddebian: sorry to be dumb but the "assigned to" section is blank on that bug page. Where do you see that it is assigned to the hardy kernel team?
[20:11] <james_w> lesshaste: the note says it should be assigned to the kernel, as in it should be marked as a problem in the kernel package i.e. "linux"
[20:12] <james_w> whether or not it is assigned to the kernel team, i.e. someone from the kernel team will work on it is a different matter.
[21:11] <Scunizi> I've just upgraded from GG to HH and now my keyboard's numeric keypad (desktop) only functions as a "mouse cursor mover".  However it does function at the login prompt and at terminal ONLY when accessing it via ctrl+alt+f2.  Under what package should I report this.. (usb keyboard microsoft comfort curve 2000)
[21:11] <seb128> there is already a bug about that
[21:11] <Scunizi> seb128: ah.. ok.. have you got a referance number?
[21:12] <seb128> bug #197589
[21:13] <Scunizi> thank you.. I'll search for Wacom bugs as well.. my functional wacom tablet stopped functioning as well.
[21:13] <seb128> you are welcome, I don't know about the wacom issue
[21:14] <seb128> the keypad bug is weird, it doesn't happen on every upgrade and the default setting for the option is false so it should be alright, not sure what is triggering the change
[21:16] <bdmurray> seb128: I saw a couple of those yesterday too I could try and find them and dup them if you think it would help
[21:16] <afflux> that hit me too but I was completly unsure where to research on that. I found out the box in the gnome-keyboard-properties was checked
[21:16] <afflux> but that was some time ago
[21:16] <seb128> bdmurray: feel free to dup those, I doubt it'll be useful though
[21:17] <seb128> would be interesting to know the gconf value before update but I doubt anybody noted that
[21:19] <afflux> I dropped my old backups some days ago, so I can't check
[22:37] <amirman84> hii, i'm dualbooting hardy heron and xp on a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and when i hibernate via the menu i get this weird error: (3  numbers, i didn't get to write them down) .568823 fglrx KCL_Enable_pat *ERROR* Pat entry 2 is already configured
[22:37] <amirman84> any ideas?
[22:44] <secretlondon> fglrx is your graphics driver
[22:53] <kees> ogasawara: can you investigate 190329?  I'm not really sure what's happening there.
[22:54] <ogasawara> kees: sure
[22:54] <kees> ogasawara: thx
[22:55] <ogasawara> kees: what was the spazy comment bug you pointed to me yesterday?  I remember starting to look at that but then got distracted
[22:56] <ogasawara> kees: ah nm, found it in the logs
[23:07] <kees> ogasawara: no, that's a different one  :P