| CIA-1 | cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r424 ubuntu/debian/po/am.po: msgmerge | 07:30 |
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| CIA-1 | base-installer: cjwatson * r326 ubuntu/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Use powerpc64-smp kernel on PS3/Cell (LP: #221647). | 09:45 |
| CIA-1 | anna: cjwatson * r408 ubuntu/ (66 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.31 | 10:08 |
| CIA-1 | anna: cjwatson * r409 ubuntu/debian/po/ (am.po mr.po): apply Ubuntu branding to new translations | 10:09 |
| xivulon | davmor2: when you have a few mins, please test rev503 attached to bug #204128, same procedure to get that in the ISO | 11:48 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: It worked on my base unit I'm going to try it on my laptop shortly. In the meanwhile I'm going to ask bdmurray to confirm :) | 12:00 |
| xivulon | ah great | 12:01 |
| davmor2 | I'm just waiting for him to come on-line | 12:01 |
| xivulon | I have several users asking how to access their windows drive, the fact that it is on /host (+ mentioned in the FAQ) is apparently not too obvious. | 12:03 |
| xivulon | I know it is a new feature, but would adding a symlink from /host to ~/Desktop using success-command be reasonable? | 12:04 |
| xivulon | +/- for x in /home/*/Desktop; do ln -s /host "$x/Desktop"; done | 12:06 |
| xivulon | "$x/Windows" ^ | 12:07 |
| davmor2 | I think that if users are wanting to access their data on the windows dive then a symlink on the desktop seem reasonable with /Desktop/Windows_Drive or something similar | 12:08 |
| xivulon | This is the most requested feature at the moment, followed by "How do I use a pre-downloaded ISO"? | 12:09 |
| xivulon | Answer to the latter is to place both in the same folder, but that of course assumes that people read the FAQ, which is not the case.... | 12:10 |
| xivulon | To fix that though would involve some interface/translation changes and probably would not pass the FFE | 12:11 |
| davmor2 | If your going to make a symllink can it be to a specific destination on the windows drive. Example the users document folder which I'm guessing would be where the majority of their data would be? | 12:12 |
| xivulon | I was thinking that! | 12:13 |
| xivulon | it would be nice to have My Documents linked inside of ~/ | 12:13 |
| xivulon | it gives that woo factor | 12:13 |
| davmor2 | true | 12:13 |
| xivulon | the issue being that My Documents does not necessarily sit on /host | 12:14 |
| xivulon | since the target partition where Wubi is installed might be different from the one where the User is | 12:14 |
| xivulon | but that should still be under /media | 12:14 |
| xivulon | other issue is that in theory the /host and /media should not really be world writeable (even if they now are...) | 12:15 |
| xivulon | let's see what evand thinks of the above, this is m-a material anyway | 12:15 |
| davmor2 | M-a isn't working in wubi by the way | 12:17 |
| xivulon | davmor2: in your test of #204128 that was of course running off CD correct? | 12:17 |
| davmor2 | yes I swapped out wubi and ran it from cd. If I of thought about it long enough I'd of renamed the file wubi.exe an then umenu might of picked it up :) | 12:19 |
| xivulon | fantastic | 12:19 |
| xivulon | PS do you know any russian? I would like a second opinion on bug #220112 (I am not sure whether to preseed winkeys by default or not) | 12:20 |
| davmor2 | No non at all :( I'm English. | 12:21 |
| xivulon | I meant any russian developer | 12:22 |
| xivulon | I'll ask on #devel | 12:22 |
| davmor2 | I'll have a think | 12:22 |
| CIA-1 | debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r655 ubuntu/ (70 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.57 | 12:27 |
| CIA-1 | clock-setup: cjwatson * r193 clock-setup/ (63 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.95 | 12:36 |
| xivulon | davmor2: for #207137 you might want to attach windbg to cd2iso, debugging symbols should be there, so you can put some breakpoints | 12:48 |
| davmor2 | where will windbg file be? | 12:49 |
| xivulon | windbg is a windows debugger, you can get it from ms website | 12:49 |
| xivulon | http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/default.mspx | 12:50 |
| xivulon | all the fun happens in ImgCreator.cpp > ImgCreator::createImg within the while loop | 12:51 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: no probs but that'll need to wait a bit :) | 12:57 |
| xivulon | no rush at all! | 12:57 |
| evand | aiui, GNOME should place an icon on the desktop for any mounted partitions, regardless of location. I do recall it doing this for Wubi in the past. Has that stopped working? | 14:01 |
| davmor2 | evand: yes I think it is listed but not running | 14:02 |
| xivulon | depends | 14:02 |
| xivulon | /host will not appear neither in mount nor in fstab | 14:04 |
| xivulon | so if gnome uses mount or fstab it will not be there | 14:04 |
| xivulon | also I think that the icon on the desktop allows you to unmount devices (correct me if I am wrong) | 14:04 |
| xivulon | which is not too desirable for /host... | 14:05 |
| xivulon | In fact I would feel better if /host was be a simple symlink... | 14:05 |
| evand | right, but what happens when that code in GNOME works? You'll end up with a symlink and the icon. | 14:06 |
| evand | This strikes me as being hackish. | 14:06 |
| xivulon | well I hope that the gnome code does not work :P | 14:06 |
| evand | And I believe you're wrong about the unmounting, though I'd have to check to be sure. I believe it only works when the mount was done as the same user, I do not think it's smart enough to ask for elevated privileges. | 14:07 |
| xivulon | at least last time I tried I had not virtual disk. Interestingly I had one report on the forum claiming that the desktop icons behaviour depends on the arch!!! | 14:07 |
| xivulon | if you cannot unmount then a gnome drive is fine! | 14:08 |
| xivulon | but I do not think it was there (amd64 :) | 14:08 |
| tmmoyer | i was looking through the source for linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic because I want to build a custom installer kernel, and I see there is a method of building just the 386 and generic flavors but it relies on the variable is_ppa_build being defined. I don't see anywhere in the documentation that specifies the purpose of this variable, or how to set it...can someone offer some guidance? | 14:08 |
| xivulon | I would assume it refers to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas (might be wrong though) | 14:09 |
| tmmoyer | that would make sense, and building a custom kernel to put on a PPA would need this, my question is, is there a way to exploit this functionality given that I'm not really looking to publish the result to a PPA | 14:10 |
| evand | xivulon: I'll look into this further to confirm what I said above, but I believe we should ultimately make sure that the desktop environment DTRT here, rather than work around it. | 14:11 |
| xivulon | evand, if it cannot be unmounted I agree! | 14:11 |
| evand | ok | 14:11 |
| xivulon | also I noticed that the hibernation button is not disabled (have to open a bug) | 14:12 |
| xivulon | the policy should be: if any swap device is on file do not allow hibernation (methinks) | 14:12 |
| xivulon | that should go in pm-utils correct? | 14:14 |
| evand | aiui, yes | 14:17 |
| xivulon | and hibernation will not work with swap on file anyway, correct? | 14:17 |
| xivulon | if so I will open a new bug | 14:18 |
| evand | I recall you saying that mjg59 told you that it would never work properly, given the current state of affairs. Correct? | 14:19 |
| tmmoyer | nevermind, some more reading reveals that this is used by the Launchpad PPA build system | 14:21 |
| xivulon | evand yep, but that is more generic, since swap on file is not necessarily wubi specific | 14:24 |
| xivulon | had a quick word with mjg59 on #ubuntu-kernel and he suggested to file a bug | 14:24 |
| xivulon | bug #224697 | 14:24 |
| evand | ok | 14:26 |
| xivulon | davmor2: can you pls also test the desktop icon behaviour on amd64 and i386. In particular I am interested to know whether a /host icon appears in the nautilus desktop, and whether it can be unmounted via context menu | 14:28 |
| davmor2 | I'll check for you take about 30mins or so | 14:29 |
| xivulon | thx | 14:30 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: Vista reboot dialogue appeared then it ejected the cd then it stopped dead and hasn't rebooted on my laptop | 14:55 |
| davmor2 | I'll try it again just to be sure | 14:59 |
| xivulon | so the jam is still there :( | 15:01 |
| xivulon | with new build it will be after reboot dialog anyway | 15:01 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: yes but like I say I'll recheck it maybe laptop specific | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | as it works on the tower I have | 15:03 |
| xivulon | should be: reboot page + click reboot now or reboot later + eject + reboot/quit (depending on previous choice) | 15:04 |
| davmor2 | yes that's what it does on the tower. on the laptop though it displays the message then nothing happens :( But I'm retesting as we speak | 15:05 |
| xivulon | on the tower after ejecting do you have enough time to get the CD off the tray or does it reboot immediatelly (and the CD gets popped in) | 15:06 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: Vista is slow at rebooting you got time to go and put the kettle on and still get the cd out :D | 15:09 |
| xivulon | haha | 15:11 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: same again. I can't reboot it at all now though. I'll get bdmurray to confirm though | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | I should think time wise between the reboot happening and the cd popping out you get a good 5 seconds. Then you got about 15-20 for vista to logout and reboot. | 15:19 |
| xivulon | not sure 5 secs is enough, anyway if that does not fix the issue I can move back the eject to before the reboot page... Only route seems to be an explicit copy onto temp | 15:29 |
| davmor2 | xivulon: don't forget though you still have the 15-20 seconds of vista shutting down so you get between 20-25 seconds in total | 15:33 |
| xivulon | sure, but there is not much point in postponing eject if it does not fix the issue | 15:36 |
| * xivulon should have used a separate branch for such experiments | 15:45 | |
| nrg | are there known issues with netboot and kickstart's %post scripts? | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | nrg: don't think so, what's up? | 16:11 |
| nrg | i am trying to run a wget command outside of the chroot and place it into the chroot | 16:12 |
| nrg | i am looking at the install logs to see if i can figure out what the issue is | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | would be useful if you could post the kickstart script (minus passwords) somewhere | 16:14 |
| nrg | i think i might figured out the issue - does the kickstart's %post script get ran before local accounts are created? | 16:15 |
| nrg | i thought i read that runs right /before/ reboot | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | yes, as it happens | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | (phone) | 16:15 |
| nrg | that's my problem. i am trying to place a file into an a home directory... | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | quickest answer is to write out another script called /lib/finish-install.d/07local (or similar; number must be >6), make it executable, and write the commands you need there | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | might be other possibilities | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | as you might expect with ordering constraints, if you flip it round other things are likely to go wrong ... | 16:26 |
| nrg | thanks | 17:27 |
| xivulon | evand did you find out about the desktop drive icons? | 18:00 |
| evand | xivulon: indeed, it doesn't seem to be working, though I could've sworn it used ot. | 18:01 |
| xivulon | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4823500&postcount=21 | 18:06 |
| xivulon | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4810834&postcount=20 | 18:06 |
| xivulon | both are very weird behaviour | 18:06 |
| xivulon | in one case you have the icons appear to begin with and then disappear as soon as you use some usb device. | 18:07 |
| xivulon | in the other you have no icons for amd64 and icons for i386 | 18:07 |
| xivulon | I have amd64 and certainly there are no drive icons, which is weird since I would have expected icons at least for the other partitions | 18:08 |
| xivulon | evand ^ | 18:08 |
| evand | yikes | 18:09 |
| xivulon | my initial theory was that nautilus (or whatever lower VFS layer) only looks into mount/fstab which explains the lack of /host icon, but it cannot explain the above | 18:09 |
| xivulon | you tested on amd64 right? | 18:10 |
| xivulon | do you have drive icons for the other /media/* stuff? | 18:10 |
| evand | I tested on i386 | 18:19 |
| xivulon | so the amd64 theory is wrong | 18:20 |
| xivulon | in any case, I have no drive icon whatsoever and there should be a few (unless they changed the way the drive icons work) | 18:20 |
| xivulon | will do some more testing tonight | 18:21 |
| xivulon | evand, did you apply the patch in #217348? | 18:21 |
| xivulon | tonight I might have 204128 sorted (fingers crossed) via 7z | 18:22 |
| evand | not yet, though I'd like to see more testing. I'll post in #ubuntu-testing about it. | 18:23 |
| xivulon | that would be nice | 18:23 |
| xivulon | they can edit manually groot and call update-grub then try to reboot | 18:24 |
| xivulon | "#groot=(hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks" => "#groot=()/ubuntu/disks" in menu.lst | 18:24 |
| nrg | cjwatson: does the reboot happen at 94save-logs? | 20:06 |
| nrg | cjwatson: nevermind - i see that it happens at 99reboot | 20:11 |
| xivulon | bdmurray, when you have some spare time can you pls try last build in #204128? | 21:41 |
| xivulon | you have to put that into the CD replacing wubi.exe within the ISO (see instructions in bug) | 21:41 |
| bdmurray | I'll test it sometime this week | 21:45 |
| xivulon | thanks | 21:56 |
| xivulon | evand any view on #223001? | 21:59 |
| xivulon | basically shall wubi delete all installation files (including ISO) when it's done or only preseed.cfg? | 22:00 |
| xivulon | also what is the current version of daily isos (.disk/info) is it 8.04 or 8.04.1? | 22:05 |
| evand | 8.04, I imagine | 22:07 |
| evand | I'd say yes to having it delete all of the install files. | 22:08 |
| evand | or at least the ISO | 22:09 |
| xivulon | done, can someone pls post .disk/info from new daily ISOs? | 22:32 |
| xivulon | well I guess there is no need, the ISO seem to be dated 23 of April, when will the daily builds resume? | 22:36 |
| cjwatson | I guess when there are a sensible number of updates to test | 22:38 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: .disk/info will end up with 8.04.1 | 22:39 |
| cjwatson | xivulon: and will be otherwise unchanged, aside from the build date | 22:40 |
| cjwatson | I've bumped it to 8.04.1 now for whenever the first set of builds run | 22:41 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, thanks, I will change isolist.ini in wubi then | 22:41 |
| cjwatson | the builds will live in /hardy/daily/ /hardy/daily-live/ etc., rather than /daily/ /daily-live/ etc. | 22:43 |
| cjwatson | since we'll be doing intrepid builds in parallel | 22:43 |
| xivulon | ok | 22:44 |
| xivulon | cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9041/ | 22:48 |
| cjwatson | yes, that looks fine, at least once those URLs exist | 22:50 |
| xivulon | great | 22:50 |
| xivulon | evand rev505 is up, note that there are now 2 make: make and make wubi-selfextract | 22:56 |
| xivulon | the second is a 7z wrap of wubi.exe that will hopefully address #204128 | 22:56 |
| xivulon | I would use the selfextract on the CD but the normal one as standalone | 23:01 |
| * xivulon rebooting for testing | 23:04 | |
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