[07:30] cdrom-detect: cjwatson * r424 ubuntu/debian/po/am.po: msgmerge [09:45] base-installer: cjwatson * r326 ubuntu/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Use powerpc64-smp kernel on PS3/Cell (LP: #221647). [10:08] anna: cjwatson * r408 ubuntu/ (66 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.31 [10:09] anna: cjwatson * r409 ubuntu/debian/po/ (am.po mr.po): apply Ubuntu branding to new translations [11:48] davmor2: when you have a few mins, please test rev503 attached to bug #204128, same procedure to get that in the ISO [12:00] xivulon: It worked on my base unit I'm going to try it on my laptop shortly. In the meanwhile I'm going to ask bdmurray to confirm :) [12:01] ah great [12:01] I'm just waiting for him to come on-line [12:03] I have several users asking how to access their windows drive, the fact that it is on /host (+ mentioned in the FAQ) is apparently not too obvious. [12:04] I know it is a new feature, but would adding a symlink from /host to ~/Desktop using success-command be reasonable? [12:06] +/- for x in /home/*/Desktop; do ln -s /host "$x/Desktop"; done [12:07] "$x/Windows" ^ [12:08] I think that if users are wanting to access their data on the windows dive then a symlink on the desktop seem reasonable with /Desktop/Windows_Drive or something similar [12:09] This is the most requested feature at the moment, followed by "How do I use a pre-downloaded ISO"? [12:10] Answer to the latter is to place both in the same folder, but that of course assumes that people read the FAQ, which is not the case.... [12:11] To fix that though would involve some interface/translation changes and probably would not pass the FFE [12:12] If your going to make a symllink can it be to a specific destination on the windows drive. Example the users document folder which I'm guessing would be where the majority of their data would be? [12:13] I was thinking that! [12:13] it would be nice to have My Documents linked inside of ~/ [12:13] it gives that woo factor [12:13] true [12:14] the issue being that My Documents does not necessarily sit on /host [12:14] since the target partition where Wubi is installed might be different from the one where the User is [12:14] but that should still be under /media [12:15] other issue is that in theory the /host and /media should not really be world writeable (even if they now are...) [12:15] let's see what evand thinks of the above, this is m-a material anyway [12:17] M-a isn't working in wubi by the way [12:17] davmor2: in your test of #204128 that was of course running off CD correct? [12:19] yes I swapped out wubi and ran it from cd. If I of thought about it long enough I'd of renamed the file wubi.exe an then umenu might of picked it up :) [12:19] fantastic [12:20] PS do you know any russian? I would like a second opinion on bug #220112 (I am not sure whether to preseed winkeys by default or not) [12:21] No non at all :( I'm English. [12:22] I meant any russian developer [12:22] I'll ask on #devel [12:22] I'll have a think [12:27] debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r655 ubuntu/ (70 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.57 [12:36] clock-setup: cjwatson * r193 clock-setup/ (63 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.95 [12:48] davmor2: for #207137 you might want to attach windbg to cd2iso, debugging symbols should be there, so you can put some breakpoints [12:49] where will windbg file be? [12:49] windbg is a windows debugger, you can get it from ms website [12:50] http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/default.mspx [12:51] all the fun happens in ImgCreator.cpp > ImgCreator::createImg within the while loop [12:57] xivulon: no probs but that'll need to wait a bit :) [12:57] no rush at all! [14:01] aiui, GNOME should place an icon on the desktop for any mounted partitions, regardless of location. I do recall it doing this for Wubi in the past. Has that stopped working? [14:02] evand: yes I think it is listed but not running [14:02] depends [14:04] /host will not appear neither in mount nor in fstab [14:04] so if gnome uses mount or fstab it will not be there [14:04] also I think that the icon on the desktop allows you to unmount devices (correct me if I am wrong) [14:05] which is not too desirable for /host... [14:05] In fact I would feel better if /host was be a simple symlink... [14:06] right, but what happens when that code in GNOME works? You'll end up with a symlink and the icon. [14:06] This strikes me as being hackish. [14:06] well I hope that the gnome code does not work :P [14:07] And I believe you're wrong about the unmounting, though I'd have to check to be sure. I believe it only works when the mount was done as the same user, I do not think it's smart enough to ask for elevated privileges. [14:07] at least last time I tried I had not virtual disk. Interestingly I had one report on the forum claiming that the desktop icons behaviour depends on the arch!!! [14:08] if you cannot unmount then a gnome drive is fine! [14:08] but I do not think it was there (amd64 :) [14:08] i was looking through the source for linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic because I want to build a custom installer kernel, and I see there is a method of building just the 386 and generic flavors but it relies on the variable is_ppa_build being defined. I don't see anywhere in the documentation that specifies the purpose of this variable, or how to set it...can someone offer some guidance? [14:09] I would assume it refers to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas (might be wrong though) [14:10] that would make sense, and building a custom kernel to put on a PPA would need this, my question is, is there a way to exploit this functionality given that I'm not really looking to publish the result to a PPA [14:11] xivulon: I'll look into this further to confirm what I said above, but I believe we should ultimately make sure that the desktop environment DTRT here, rather than work around it. [14:11] evand, if it cannot be unmounted I agree! [14:11] ok [14:12] also I noticed that the hibernation button is not disabled (have to open a bug) [14:12] the policy should be: if any swap device is on file do not allow hibernation (methinks) [14:14] that should go in pm-utils correct? [14:17] aiui, yes [14:17] and hibernation will not work with swap on file anyway, correct? [14:18] if so I will open a new bug [14:19] I recall you saying that mjg59 told you that it would never work properly, given the current state of affairs. Correct? [14:21] nevermind, some more reading reveals that this is used by the Launchpad PPA build system [14:24] evand yep, but that is more generic, since swap on file is not necessarily wubi specific [14:24] had a quick word with mjg59 on #ubuntu-kernel and he suggested to file a bug [14:24] bug #224697 [14:26] ok [14:28] davmor2: can you pls also test the desktop icon behaviour on amd64 and i386. In particular I am interested to know whether a /host icon appears in the nautilus desktop, and whether it can be unmounted via context menu [14:29] I'll check for you take about 30mins or so [14:30] thx [14:55] xivulon: Vista reboot dialogue appeared then it ejected the cd then it stopped dead and hasn't rebooted on my laptop [14:59] I'll try it again just to be sure [15:01] so the jam is still there :( [15:01] with new build it will be after reboot dialog anyway [15:02] xivulon: yes but like I say I'll recheck it maybe laptop specific [15:03] as it works on the tower I have [15:04] should be: reboot page + click reboot now or reboot later + eject + reboot/quit (depending on previous choice) [15:05] yes that's what it does on the tower. on the laptop though it displays the message then nothing happens :( But I'm retesting as we speak [15:06] on the tower after ejecting do you have enough time to get the CD off the tray or does it reboot immediatelly (and the CD gets popped in) [15:09] xivulon: Vista is slow at rebooting you got time to go and put the kettle on and still get the cd out :D [15:11] haha [15:16] xivulon: same again. I can't reboot it at all now though. I'll get bdmurray to confirm though [15:19] I should think time wise between the reboot happening and the cd popping out you get a good 5 seconds. Then you got about 15-20 for vista to logout and reboot. [15:29] not sure 5 secs is enough, anyway if that does not fix the issue I can move back the eject to before the reboot page... Only route seems to be an explicit copy onto temp [15:33] xivulon: don't forget though you still have the 15-20 seconds of vista shutting down so you get between 20-25 seconds in total [15:36] sure, but there is not much point in postponing eject if it does not fix the issue [15:45] * xivulon should have used a separate branch for such experiments [16:05] are there known issues with netboot and kickstart's %post scripts? [16:11] nrg: don't think so, what's up? [16:12] i am trying to run a wget command outside of the chroot and place it into the chroot [16:13] i am looking at the install logs to see if i can figure out what the issue is [16:14] would be useful if you could post the kickstart script (minus passwords) somewhere [16:15] i think i might figured out the issue - does the kickstart's %post script get ran before local accounts are created? [16:15] i thought i read that runs right /before/ reboot [16:15] yes, as it happens [16:15] (phone) [16:17] that's my problem. i am trying to place a file into an a home directory... [16:26] quickest answer is to write out another script called /lib/finish-install.d/07local (or similar; number must be >6), make it executable, and write the commands you need there [16:26] might be other possibilities [16:26] as you might expect with ordering constraints, if you flip it round other things are likely to go wrong ... [17:27] thanks [18:00] evand did you find out about the desktop drive icons? [18:01] xivulon: indeed, it doesn't seem to be working, though I could've sworn it used ot. [18:06] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4823500&postcount=21 [18:06] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4810834&postcount=20 [18:06] both are very weird behaviour [18:07] in one case you have the icons appear to begin with and then disappear as soon as you use some usb device. [18:07] in the other you have no icons for amd64 and icons for i386 [18:08] I have amd64 and certainly there are no drive icons, which is weird since I would have expected icons at least for the other partitions [18:08] evand ^ [18:09] yikes [18:09] my initial theory was that nautilus (or whatever lower VFS layer) only looks into mount/fstab which explains the lack of /host icon, but it cannot explain the above [18:10] you tested on amd64 right? [18:10] do you have drive icons for the other /media/* stuff? [18:19] I tested on i386 [18:20] so the amd64 theory is wrong [18:20] in any case, I have no drive icon whatsoever and there should be a few (unless they changed the way the drive icons work) [18:21] will do some more testing tonight [18:21] evand, did you apply the patch in #217348? [18:22] tonight I might have 204128 sorted (fingers crossed) via 7z [18:23] not yet, though I'd like to see more testing. I'll post in #ubuntu-testing about it. [18:23] that would be nice [18:24] they can edit manually groot and call update-grub then try to reboot [18:24] "#groot=(hdX,Y)/ubuntu/disks" => "#groot=()/ubuntu/disks" in menu.lst [20:06] cjwatson: does the reboot happen at 94save-logs? [20:11] cjwatson: nevermind - i see that it happens at 99reboot [21:41] bdmurray, when you have some spare time can you pls try last build in #204128? [21:41] you have to put that into the CD replacing wubi.exe within the ISO (see instructions in bug) [21:45] I'll test it sometime this week [21:56] thanks [21:59] evand any view on #223001? [22:00] basically shall wubi delete all installation files (including ISO) when it's done or only preseed.cfg? [22:05] also what is the current version of daily isos (.disk/info) is it 8.04 or 8.04.1? [22:07] 8.04, I imagine [22:08] I'd say yes to having it delete all of the install files. [22:09] or at least the ISO [22:32] done, can someone pls post .disk/info from new daily ISOs? [22:36] well I guess there is no need, the ISO seem to be dated 23 of April, when will the daily builds resume? [22:38] I guess when there are a sensible number of updates to test [22:39] xivulon: .disk/info will end up with 8.04.1 [22:40] xivulon: and will be otherwise unchanged, aside from the build date [22:41] I've bumped it to 8.04.1 now for whenever the first set of builds run [22:41] cjwatson, thanks, I will change isolist.ini in wubi then [22:43] the builds will live in /hardy/daily/ /hardy/daily-live/ etc., rather than /daily/ /daily-live/ etc. [22:43] since we'll be doing intrepid builds in parallel [22:44] ok [22:48] cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9041/ [22:50] yes, that looks fine, at least once those URLs exist [22:50] great [22:56] evand rev505 is up, note that there are now 2 make: make and make wubi-selfextract [22:56] the second is a 7z wrap of wubi.exe that will hopefully address #204128 [23:01] I would use the selfextract on the CD but the normal one as standalone [23:04] * xivulon rebooting for testing