=== ubottu is now known as ubotuu === ubotuu is now known as ubottu [00:27] hello all, i have strange behaviour with network :) [00:27] i have one eth card and wlan at the same pc ... [00:28] when eth connected wlan working if i disconnect eth0 wlan stop working [00:28] so should one upgrade to 8.04 server or what? [00:28] anyhelp ? [00:53] soulc, not unless you have problems that will be solved by upgrading [01:21] I have an rsync server which stores backups created with --link-dest. This means that the vast majority of the backup is actually a hard-link. I am trying to determine the actual disk space used by each backup. If I run du across one backup, I get the full size as if each file is real. If I run du across multiple, I get 22Mb for all but the first. [01:21] 22Mb seems like a lot of space for a tree of hard links. [01:21] How do I confirm that it is really 22Mb? [01:34] Greetings.. anyone know how to get the kernel to re-read a partition table? [01:34] (without rebooting) [02:50] What are 'audit' messages telling me in /var/log/messages? [02:50] I am trying to get slapd to use a different directory for it's database. [02:50] pschulz01: those are probably apparmor messages [02:50] pschulz01: yep, that'd do it [02:51] Ok.. how do I change them? This is a hardy alternate install. [02:51] pschulz01: you can either edit /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.slpad for the new directory or put the profile into complain mode [02:52] I'd suggest editing the file ;-) [02:52] sommer: Then what? (is there an /etc/init.d/apparmor restart? [02:53] sommer: What about sub-directories? eg. there is the line "/var/lib/ldap/* rw" [02:54] sommer: I have added to "/var/lib/ldap/" [02:54] sommer: Reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor [02:55] pschulz01: ya, there's also information in the server guide about apparmor [02:56] if you edit the file then do /etc/init.d/apparmor restart it should reload [02:56] sommer: That link wasn't too helpful. [02:56] sommer: Excellent.. as expected then. [02:56] sommer: Reading http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/apparmor.html [02:57] pschulz01: cool, you can also find the guide on help.u.c :) [03:00] sommer: Ok.. putting it into 'complain' mode allowed slapd to run... now to edit the file. :-) [03:05] Aha.. double * [03:07] sommer: Is that worth submitting as a bug? [03:09] I think that's intended behavior [03:09] sommer: I'm now getting a message.. operation="file_lock" requested_mask="wk::" denied_mask="k::" [03:10] sommer: Looking to lock the file /var/lib/ldap//alock [03:10] pschulz01: it's probably apparmor again, did you add all your changes to the apparmor profile file? [03:10] Hi guys, I need some help getting started. I want to set up a server to do two things: 1. act like a networked hard drive for my XP laptop. and 2. Create a web page that a few of my friends and I can use to access files over the internet. I'd like to know how the initial partitions should be, as well as what applications/services to use. [03:11] sommer: It is apparmour.. there is no mention of 'k' in the exisitng file, so I;m wondering if this is a bug in the exisitng profile. [03:12] I had started using debian, but I don't know enough about linux yet, and ubuntu has been less difficult for me to grasp so far [03:12] Xabriel, you want samba+apache installed, a large /home/ and (depending on how you setup apache) a large /var/www [03:12] pschulz01: the existing profile covers the default files and behavior of slapd, if you change that then you need to edit the file [03:12] * Kamping_Kaiser wonders how much easier apt-get install is on ubuntu vs debian [03:12] Xabriel: Are you worried about messing up the system if you run out of disk space? [03:12] * pschulz01 stares at Kamping_Kaiser.. [03:13] pschulz01,not particularly, I just got a 500 gig drive [03:13] Xabriel: Then the default partitioning is suitable. [03:14] * Kamping_Kaiser looks at pschulz01 - yu' aint from around here, are you boy? [03:14] pschulz01, should I have separate partitions for the files I will access through my home network and the ones I will use over the internet? [03:14] Xabriel: You could slice off a 5 or 10G partition if you wanted to, for the OS ('/'). [03:14] Xabriel: Not necessary. [03:15] Xabriel: The file and web server will look after that for you. [03:15] pschulz01, how much swap should I set aside? [03:15] Xabriel: How much memeory do you have? [03:16] pschulz01, well I'm putting this together from old parts, I think I have about 768K [03:16] Xabriel: In the old days, the rule was 'double it'. [03:16] *mb [03:16] oy, big diff [03:17] Xabriel: You shouldn't end up getting into swap-ing (ie. use up all physical memeory) so 1G would be ample. [03:18] pschulz01, one thing I wanted to do, to keep people from messing w/ my server if they happen to find it, is have it so if they incorrectly enter the username and password more than 3 times, they get a permanent IP ban [03:19] hope you dont try and log in drunk then ;) [03:19] Xabriel: fail2ban ? Kamping_Kaiser is that the package? [03:20] eh, if I screw up I can just go back in and remove it from the list :) [03:20] pschulz01, its a package. looks fairly complex to setup (but i only had a quick look) [03:21] I figgure that will help to keep out brute force attacks [03:21] sommer: Adding 'k' the to apparmor profile stopped the message.. but there is no mention of it in the documentation as far as I can see. [03:22] sommer: Not even in the man page for apparmor.d [03:22] Time to submit some bugs. [03:22] pschulz01: hrmm, ya, there's a page in the wiki troubleshooting apparmor, or something similar, is it mentioned there? [03:22] sommer: link? [03:23] one sec [03:23] pschulz01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor [03:24] anyone around using ddns behind a PAT router? ez-ipupdate listens and updates on eth0 but then updates my ddns host with my private IP. [03:25] pschulz01: meh, I don't think that's the link I was originially thinking of, if you could create a bug against ubuntu-serverguide, I'll add it to the docs [03:25] sommer: No mention.. :-/ (Pion: Off I go then.) [03:26] what exactly are mount options? [03:26] Use 'default' [03:26] Xabriel: eg. 'ro' for read only. [03:27] pschulz01, but what if I want to write? hehe [03:27] Xabriel: Where is this mentioned? [03:27] Xabriel: 'rw' for read-write. [03:28] pschulz01, there's no "default" option [03:28] pschulz01, it was on relatime [03:29] Xabriel: Wha? [03:29] Xabriel: I am goin gto need more context. [03:29] pschulz01: "relatime - update inode access times relative to modify time" [03:30] pschulz01, (this is for "/") [03:30] Xabriel: Are you looking at the 'mount' man page? [03:30] pschulz01, yes [03:31] Xabriel: Using no options at all generally also works :-) [03:31] Xabriel, any reason your not trusting Linux to sort out the mount options? [03:31] Kamping_Kaiser, no reason, just curious [03:36] what file system should I use for the main data partition [03:36] (where I'll dump all my stuff) [03:36] ext3. always [03:36] will my XP computer be able to access that on? [03:36] *ok [03:36] Kamping_Kaiser: What.. not Rieser? [03:37] pschulz01, he doesnt need dancing trees :p [03:37] Xabriel, filesysetm is irrelevent to your xp box. samba is what'll make the difference [03:37] * Kamping_Kaiser afk lunch [03:38] I see [03:38] copying 80bg of ubuntu mirror over usb is a good chance fora break :O [03:39] bg? [03:39] billion gigs? === zobbo__ is now known as zobbo_ [04:54] how can I adjust $PATH system wide? having some funny isues with Gem packages. [04:57] fujin: /etc/environment and/or /etc/login.defs look likely [04:57] * nealmcb sighs [04:59] heh [06:26] sommer: ping [07:11] hi ... is there a way to install a 2.3 openldap on hardy? [07:12] apt-get install slapd? [07:25] that merges 2.4 [07:25] eerr ... installs [08:00] Kamping_Kaiser: [08:00] Kamping_Kaiser: ping [08:45] hello I need to know if there is anyway that I can redo a download when ether it fails or is paused? [08:45] that is on ubuntu server 7.10 [08:50] What sort of download? [08:50] Which application are you using? [08:51] I well find out I am helping a friend out on undernet so its not me [08:52] sorry about that [08:54] mite take some time a dissconnect or net split :( [09:01] sommer: Thanks for your help earlier.. it wasn;t really a bug in apparmor [09:52] goooood mornin [09:57] * ogra waves [09:58] is ayone of the server team looking after updating the docs on help.ubuntu.com to match new procedures introduced in hardy ? [09:58] i.e. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication [09:58] seems people have probs when following it on 8.04 [10:08] lucent ding ding ding [10:14] Can someone tell me why the following is the default? It seems so unsecure to me: [10:14] By default, user home directories in Ubuntu are created with world read/execute permissions. [10:18] I take it that if you're using a ltsp server that this would still hold true for each user that logs in from a thin client (?!?) [10:19] thin clients dont have anything to do with the homedir [10:19] I would assume so, yes. [10:21] I guess I should rephrase that: installing ubuntu's ltsp package won't fix directory permissions to ensure user privacy. [10:21] ltsp doesnt touch homedirs or user setups [10:21] you can set it yourself in /etc/login.defs [10:21] look for umask [10:22] <\sh> wasn't there an option in d-i these days, d-i was asking if you want world readable/executable home dirs or not [10:22] thanks ogra [10:22] might be in expert mode [10:22] \sh: good, I'll check that out, since I'm using netboot installs [10:22] <\sh> or did I mix it up now with the debian os install...I saw it the last time I installed ubuntu or debian... [10:23] jimcooncat: for ne wusers ot depends how you create them [10:23] I see i can fix it for new users in /etc/adduser.conf [10:24] right [10:24] useradd cretaes home dir with rx for others while adduser creates it with x only [10:24] dont use useradd, adduser is what you want [10:25] iirc, useradd is a wrapper for adduser anyway [10:25] other way round :) [10:25] on the sie how do you adduser in a script? [10:25] useradd is something to use from scripts etc ... [10:25] oh, I guess I didn't iirc :-) [10:25] how do you use adduser in a script? [10:26] then it would be nice if by default useradd was giving same defaults as adduser [10:26] blue-frog_, you dont, thats what you have useradd for ... [10:26] adduser is a maintenance tool, useradd is a backend [10:27] ogra: yes but default for useradd have changed a while ago and it is a bit annoying [10:27] if you do normal maintenance tasks never use useradd [10:31] When using ltsp or other shared access, how do you keep firefox memory usage from being a problem? I doubt my users would get in the habit of killing firefox-bin once in a while to restore memory like I do on my machine. [10:32] sorry got disc... one more question about adduser [10:34] in adduser.conf we have DIR_MODE=0755 so if I understand correctly the homedir should be created with 755 but it is created with 751, any explanation? [10:35] jimcooncat, ff3 handles ram way better than the -2 version did, general rule of thumb for ltsp is to have 128M per session on the server plus 256M for th server itself [10:37] ogra, that's good to hear. I haven't tested hardy yet, I could see that was going to be a problem with ff2. I was hoping to avoid replacing the one familiar program they had with epiphany or something else. === crummygummy_ is now known as CrummyGummy === virtbot is now known as virtbot` [11:12] \sh: found it! # Do you want system wide readable home directories? [11:12] adduser adduser/homedir-permission boolean true === jords__ is now known as jords [11:30] hi, how do i add dns lookup ip? [11:30] my network is up and running, but no DNS lookups work [11:31] anyone? [11:32] venil: try dig [11:33] might need to google for the package it's in, can't remember.... [11:34] whats dig? [11:36] ogra@osiris:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/dig [11:36] dnsutils: /usr/bin/dig [11:36] its installed by default [11:37] is it not just enough to add dns to /etc/network/interfaces [11:39] depends what you want to achive with your server [11:39] but you should rather add it to resolv.conf [11:40] arghh!!! thanks orga, resolf.conf is what i was looking for === lamont` is now known as lamont [11:45] hello [11:46] I got a problem with postfix ,can anybody help me? [11:47] not without knowing what the problem is [11:48] thanks for replying, it's about sender relay maps [11:50] guys, how can i bind mysqld to more than one ip address [11:50] can i just bind-address in my.cnf several ip adresses? [11:51] to be exact I've setup a the mail server correctly to relay throught yahoo and gmail smtp servers it worked well with , but the problem is with smtp_sender_dependent_authentication it seems that postfix use only the relayhost parametre and not sender_dependent_relayhost_maps [11:55] I'll reformulate the question [11:55] have two account one on yahoo ,and the other on gmail [11:55] I configured postfix and fetchmail to send and recive mail throught [11:55] my yahoo account , with proper adress rewriting and all. [11:55] after that I did the same with gmail and added the certificate to let me send and recive throught gmail but the side effect is that i can no longer send with yahoo smtp server. [11:55] next i wanted to cohabitate the 2 setups [11:55] I used these line [11:55] smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes [11:55] sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay [11:56] but nothing it just seem that the only effective line is relayhost = smtp.mail.yahoo.fr:25 [11:57] and if I try to comment it I get connect to yahoo.fr[217.12.6.29]: Connection timed out (port 25) [11:57] * lamont hasn't used sender_dep_auth [11:57] connect to gmail.com[72.14.253.83]: Connection timed out (port 25) [11:58] worst case, one could use transport maps to force the config diffs between them, although it does sound lik sender_dep_auth could be talked into doing what you want [11:58] thanks lamont i'll check this one :-) [11:59] hi people [12:00] i have an issue maybe someone can help [12:00] while installing 8.04 server i misspelled host name [12:00] ounce installed i went in /etc/hosts and corrected spelling manually [12:01] now sudo won't work, even after reboot [12:01] how can i fix this? [12:01] gaouzief: you need to fix /etc/hostname aswell [12:01] did you fix /etc/hostname too ? [12:01] nope [12:01] can't access that anymore [12:01] boot into recovery mode and fix it :) [12:02] okay, in recovery mode i should mount th / partition? [12:02] no [12:02] what then [12:02] just boot into recovery mode f the installed system [12:02] *of [12:02] the one grub offers [12:02] ok not the CD recovery mode [12:03] nope [12:03] ok i'll try that [12:03] hit esc if you see the grub countdown [12:13] worked [12:13] thks [12:13] exit [12:14] but this should be fixed somehow, it's a common mistake [12:19] how should one fix that people forget to change /etc/hostname accordingly? :) [12:19] ah nevermind, he left.. [12:47] morning all [12:48] morning dendrobates [12:54] sommer: clamav 0.92.1 backports to Feisty/Gutsy are done. [12:58] morning [13:00] Good morning. [13:12] how can i permanently setup env. variable, so that it remains after reboot [13:22] venii: for a login shell? [13:23] venil: Are you setting this variable for a login shell? [13:24] i need to set JAVA_HOME for tomcat to work properly [13:24] venil: you can edit /etc/profile [13:24] you shouldnt set JAVA_HOME though, the java packages set it up properly [13:25] (JAVA_HOME isnt supposed to be used on debian based systems) [13:25] well, tomcat gives an error if its not setup [13:25] not here [13:25] at least with the package [13:26] that was my next question. Did you install with the package? [13:26] nope, just downloaded from their website [13:27] i should have probably done apt-get install tomcat5.5 ?? [13:27] yeah :) [13:28] well, i tried that before, its kinda different from what original tomcat55 has to offer, it runs on a different port for example [13:29] thats easy to change in the config file [13:29] venil: In my experience, the advantages of working within the package management system outweigh the disadvantages. [13:30] so if i do apt-get, will it also download jre for me?? [13:30] as i already have it installed, not thru packages [13:30] ouch [13:30] ewww [13:30] it would default to the already installed java on your system that comes with the default install [13:31] you could install the sun java engine from multiverse to make it work with that [13:31] no clue how to make it work with manually installed java [13:32] no worrie, its easy to uninstall, ( ii guess o_O ??) [13:33] can you walk me thru the right way please? [13:33] * ogra has no clue where the java installer puts what or which files of the original java it replaces blindly without asking [13:33] so no, i cant [13:34] i know how to enable multiverse, how do i install the JAVA package though?? [13:35] ScottK: cool, does that version need backported to dapper as well? [13:35] Already done. [13:35] Since we'd already got the libclamav3 transition done in Dapper, it was simple. [13:35] venil, apt-cache search sun-java [13:36] make your pick [13:36] sommer: libclamav4 and clamav 0.93 is here, so no rest for the weary. [13:36] i just discovered that multivesre is enabled by default in 8.04 is that ruight?? [13:36] Yes. [13:36] Nothing is installed from it in any default installation though [13:37] IIRC it's been that way since Feisty. [13:38] ScottK: ah, just let me know when it needs testing :-) [13:39] sommer: What really needs doing is looking in the Fedora 9 repository for patches. They had a klamav patch, but I haven't looked at the rest. [13:40] ScottK: sounds intersting, so you mean patches for applications that use clamav or clamav itself? [13:41] sommer: All the packages that build against libclamav. See the team wiki page. I just updated it. [13:42] ScottK: okay, I'll take a look today [13:42] I am using Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit version, if i install any 32-bit applications like browsers, datbase clients ...etc. The 32-bit based applications not able to reach /etc/resolv.conf file to communicate to the network. Any one tell me how to resolve this issue ? [13:42] guys when i am connecting to my ubuntu server through VPN PPtp i will be disconnected from the network [13:45] shashi: Spamming multiple channels will get you fewer answers, not more. [13:48] what is the default port tomcat55 is running on (not 8080), i cant even check whether its running or not [13:51] which conf file do i edit, to change the default port?? [13:57] /etc/tomcat5.5/server.xml should have some connectors defined [13:58] I think it is 8180 per default for non-ssl [13:58] yo guys [13:58] does anyone know a good tutorial for setting up a terminal server with ubuntu? [13:58] cant find anything decent on google [13:59] with tight vnc tbh [14:04] <\sh> wo0f, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC ? [14:05] <\sh> I wonder for what someone needs a terminal server on linux/unix while there is ssh or a network protocol named Xwindow [14:06] ssh rulz [14:16] Using libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap to authenticate users on a 2003 Microsoft AD, anyone have any clues why logins would just hang forever? Users show up in `getent passwd`, and incorrect passwords are rejected, but correct passwords and su's to ldap accounts just hang forever. [14:32] oxtub: do you have pam configured to use ldap, and winbind? [14:34] oxtub: also, likewise-open greatly simplifies the configuration [14:34] is there any senario where an ubuntu-server installl will install lilo instead of grub as default. I have a user in #ubuntu saying thats what happened [14:35] ikonia: not that I've ever seen [14:36] as I suspected also [14:36] thank you [14:45] \sh: cheers man. [14:45] <\sh> wo0f, helped? [14:47] ikonia: no i don't think so [14:47] ikonia: theres not even an option for that anymore [14:47] unless your using a really old version, but tbh, has ubuntu ever used lilo? [14:47] \sh: yeh cheers mate. [14:48] nope [14:48] silo on sparc, but not lilo [14:52] Humm, where can I find jeos to download? [15:00] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/releases/ [15:07] bamed: Thx, trying it out now. [15:16] wo0f: thank you === bamed is now known as bamed|away [15:39] What do you think. Is ebox the thing to use for colleagues that not want to use bash? On our old physical debian servers we used webmin... [15:41] * Kamping_Kaiser recomends a cluebat [15:41] webmin was removed from both Debian and Ubuntu because it's config file management system is incompatible. [15:41] You can think of ebox as a more reliable replacement for webmin for someone who would want such a thing. [15:42] ScottK: That is why I am looking at sumfink else than webmin. [15:42] Then ebox is likely what you're after. [15:42] * ScottK doesn't use it personally. [15:43] ScottK: We used to manage bind with webmin. I need to find sumthing else, beq ppl here do not want to edit the zone files themself. :) [15:43] hrmm, it would appear the forum team removed our moderation privileges when the installed the new forum stuff [15:43] as well as assuming ownership of the post we had there [15:43] <\sh> klaf, powerdns? [15:43] * faulkes- has been up all night fixing a downed PDC [15:43] * faulkes- is not impressed today [15:44] Not sure if a bind module made it into Hardy or not. [15:44] * ScottK bets soren knows. [15:44] * ScottK runs off to a meeting.... [15:45] <\sh> klaf, or mysqlbind (http://freshmeat.net/projects/mysqlbind/) [15:45] \sh: is it a wrapper around bind? [15:45] <\sh> klaf, powerdns is a DNS Server with webfrontend [15:45] ScottK: Thanx for the hel [15:45] <\sh> klaf, mysqlbind is a webfrontend for bind [15:45] \sh: Ah, I'm a bind9 fella :p [15:46] !mysqlbind [15:46] klaf: Error: "mysqlbind" is not a valid command. [15:46] Factoid mysqlbind not found [15:46] <\sh> actually, webmin was a cool solution in the early days of the internet boom, early to mid 90ties [15:46] <\sh> I installed in on several customer servers..and wrote these days the qmail webmin module [15:47] \sh: Well, you know that debian servers are stable. It it works don't touch it.. Except security fixes :p [15:48] <\sh> klaf, debian is stable...but not the admin who works on those servers...;) after all, normally you have many cases where web-admin-stuff doesn't work as expected [15:49] \sh: Oh, I've used the qmail module further back in time [15:49] <\sh> klaf, the qmail.wbm or the qmailwebmin module..there are two of them...:) [15:50] \sh: Exactly, some modules really fscked up the configs. On the qmail module, I don't really remember, lately I mostly use postfix. [15:51] \sh: Have you used mysqlbind? === zobbo__ is now known as zobbo_ [15:52] <\sh> klaf, nope...I'm using some selfmade scripts to add hosts etc. to my zone files...but in our company we are using mysqlbind...(well, actually we hacked some stuff into it, so it fits with our special setup) [15:53] <\sh> klaf, I'm waiting for a new root server for my private fun, and I wanted to setup powerdns to see how it works ... it could be a good solution for customers who wants to self-admin their dns zone files [15:55] * faulkes- prefers vi for zone files [15:56] <\sh> faulkes-, yes..for single zone files...that's nice ;) for several hundreds or more manual editing is a pain in da ass, when you are e.g. a webhoster ;) [15:56] Subject: Launchpad: changes to your project's licence record [15:56] ORLY [15:56] * faulkes- eyes Canonical [15:59] ScottK: A "bind module"? -ENOCONTEXT [16:01] soren: for eBox iirc [16:01] Oh. [16:02] ebox-dns should to that. [16:02] soren: Ah, thankx.. [16:03] * klaf looking it up now [16:31] I have a small problem, on 8.04-server. When the box finishes booting the services it doesn't show the login prompt in tty0. Any ideas what might cause this? [16:38] <\sh> elventear, press enter ;) [16:38] Nothing happens, really [16:38] <\sh> hmm? [16:39] <\sh> elventear, and on tty1? [16:39] but you have login promps on the other consoles ? [16:39] I have login in the other ttys [16:39] Yup [16:39] And full network access and everything [16:39] That is why I say it's minor, but weird [16:39] that the prompt scrolls away on tty0 is a known upstart bug [16:40] but you should get to it once you hit enter [16:40] ogra: I had set the system to wait until the service startup was done [16:40] So that didn't happen [16:40] But now I don't get the the prompt at all [16:40] I have reverted the setting, but still it does the same [16:41] i'm trying to install openssh from the installer, and it's failing, is this a known problem? [16:44] failing as in how? [16:48] Installation step failed: "An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software" [16:48] did you check the CD ? [16:48] no [16:48] sounds like a corupted iso [16:48] i'll do that now === virtbot` is now known as uvirtbot [16:55] "The CD-ROM integrity test was successful. The CD-ROM is valid." [16:57] are there MD5 sums somewhere? [16:57] nm, found em [16:58] "ubuntu-8.04-server-i386.iso: OK" [17:02] is there a way to install a paravirt ubuntu image from cd? I looked at jeos and it doesnt seem to do xen. i'm running on an opensolaris dom0 [17:06] rarn: i believe that all ubuntu kernels are paravirtualized [17:08] hmm - will they be set for a serial console? [17:08] I'll try that now [17:08] I'm looking for someone who has completed a samba migration from distro y to distro x. Having issues with logins associated to folders [17:12] good_dana, using virt-install, it doesn't like the server iso [17:12] unless i do a HVM [17:16] hi, whats the tool / way of choice to handle webapps for multiple users on ubuntu? [17:17] like mediawiki installed via dpkg .. [17:17] I am usually giving each user the unpacked tarball to their space .. [17:24] under gentoo there is webapp-config [17:26] New bug: #224791 in nut (main) "nut upsmon not observing it's config file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224791 [17:26] Launchpad bug 224791 in nut "nut upsmon not observing it's config file" [Undecided,New] [17:27] soren: uvirtbot ?? why do we start to receive new bugs notification in here ? [17:29] It's bugs that the server team is subscribed to. I thought it'd be a nice way to get notified about new bugs. [17:33] so you never went bowling with goebbels either? [17:34] mathiaz: You don't like it? [17:34] so you never went bowling with goebbels either? [17:37] soren: hmm.. Wouldn't that start to clutter the channel ? [17:38] soren: ubotu was removed from #ubuntu-bugs for that specific reason [17:38] soren: we can discuss that in the meeting later today [17:41] i started the install over, and now it works ok [17:47] New bug: #224428 in munin (main) "munin-node not restarted after plugin installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224428 [17:48] Launchpad bug 224428 in munin "munin-node not restarted after plugin installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:51] mathiaz: won't be at the meeting today [17:53] did someone know's who is in charge of shop.canonical.com? [17:55] mathiaz: Do we get that many bugs, you think? [17:55] The fact that ubottu repeats them all is a bit much, though. [17:56] soren: well - I'm not sure we gain so much by announcing bugs here. [17:57] soren: I tend to be against clutterring the channel with useless information [17:57] soren: I already receive bug notification by email [17:57] soren: I get them in one place, and that's enough [17:58] soren: I'm not sure what is the advantage of being notified in real time about new bugs [18:07] I find it rather handy, actually. [18:07] mathiaz: it makes it easier for folks to discuss it - no one needs to manually paste them [18:08] but one copy is enough.... [18:08] nealmcb: oh - I don't say that ubottu should not be here [18:09] nealmcb: I question the need to announce *new* bugs [18:09] I just like to get notified about new bugs. I need to really work up an attitude to look through my bug mail, but I'd still like to know about *new* bugs quickly. [18:11] It's only server bugs, after all. It's not like ubuntu-bugs that announces a new bug each minute. [18:11] mathiaz: and I think that having the bot help to start conversations about new bugs is handy [18:13] nealmcb: hmmm - good point [18:13] I find it handy as well to be honest as well [18:14] I guess it's a matter of persnal taste and how one gets organized [18:14] we should give it a try [18:35] Hi, I just reported two new bugs connected to NIS/NFS and Ubuntu 8.04 on Launchpad, but I'm new to the Launchpad thing so I would appreciate if someone would take a look at them, for example I'm not sure what do they affect. If somebody know some workarounds for my problems that of course would also be very appreciated ;) [18:35] The first one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/224820 [18:35] Launchpad bug 224820 in ubuntu-meta "Gnome Appearance Properties doesn't work when /home folder mounted using NFS; affects the log out dialog" [Undecided,New] [18:35] The second one - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nis/+bug/224828 [18:35] Launchpad bug 224828 in nis "NIS demon fails during startup if the roaming mode is turned off" [Undecided,New] [18:39]