[00:00] <RequinB4> MrObvious - try http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547
[00:00] <Boohbah_> wubrgamer: it would be... two text boxes
[00:00] <drivetrax> ohhhh... I think there was CLI in windows
[00:00] <Boohbah_> in your toolkit of choice
[00:00] <wubrgamer> drivetrax:  at one time
[00:00] <Netham45> is it possible to output GDM to an X server on another PC?
[00:00] <John_S> atlanta80: OK, but make sure it works on a reboot too.
[00:00] <angasule> jorg1: I'm sorry, I don't know that card and I'm not finding any more useful documents
[00:00] <richard___> Megarata, what's the manufacturer and model of your wireless device?
[00:00] <kupo> Slart: oooh missed that
[00:00] <twinkie_addict> im going to try the kde-4 and see what its like :)
[00:00] <kupo> Slart: trying now brb
[00:00] <Slart> kupo: ok
[00:01] <drivetrax> wubrgamer,  - I wait for the day when all the unix commands are in one place.. and you can click any one to do stuff
[00:01] <Mala1> twinkie: Make sure you back stuff up.  KDE 4 is, in my experience, VERY buggy...
[00:01] <RequinB4> Can someone at least tell me if the fact i can't resolve packages.ubuntu.com my end or server end?
[00:01] <zonkers> how do i get ubuntu to come up without having to log in?
[00:01] <twinkie_addict> ok
[00:01] <Netham45> RequinB4, I can resolve it.
[00:01] <Megarata> BroadCom Corporation BCM4318 AirForce One 54G 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller rev 02
[00:01] <RequinB4> Netham45 - grr...
[00:01] <Randomizer> Hi there, I upgraded today, and I'm having X hang everytime screensaver kicks in... (I restart with ctrl+alt+backspace), using the fglrx drivers... wondering if this is a known issue?
[00:02] <Mala1> twinkie: Not back up, just if you're working on anything in KDE 4, save often.  VERY often.
[00:02] <drivetrax> RequinB4,  - no firewall.. open router, and open DSL/Cable modem.. ports open, is it ping-able?
[00:02] <Slart> RequinB4: works here
[00:02] <wubrgamer> drivetrax:  it'll never happen
[00:02] <jorg1> angasule, don't worry, and thanks, there's no drivers for creative sound cards yet in lnux, that's what i read
[00:02] <Megarata> I already did the sudo lshw -c network
[00:02] <wubrgamer> drivetrax:  go dev for windows
[00:02] <drivetrax> lol
[00:02] <RequinB4> Maybe it's just really laggy... I'll let it try to connect for a while
[00:02] <LinuxGuy1234> !HI
[00:02] <jorg1> so i need to find another sound card
[00:02] <Slart> zonkers: isn't there an autologin option in "System, administration, login" or something similar
[00:03] <zonkers> slart thx
[00:03] <atlanta80> John_S: Yeah it connected, I'm reboot now to ensure everything is still fine
[00:03] <drivetrax> lady I know clicked on her 192 address 10,000 times, and with help from the ISP, finally the telephone equipment worked.. and she got her dsl back
[00:03] <Slart> zonkers: you're welcome
[00:03] <riddlebox> can anyone help me I cannot get cx88-alsa to load?
[00:04] <John_S> atlanta80: Great--should work on reboot. :)
[00:04] <ferbyboy> there seems to be problems with programs being able to find ipods in hardy...the only program that recognizes and ipod is rhythmbox...all other programs to upload music to ipod seem to not find an ipod device on my machine can anyone exlpain why? or is there anyone experiencing the same thing ?
[00:04] <frankyd> damn that's truely very odd in safe-mode it's loading some files but after a short time it's ildling ... so i'm sorry to say i won't suggest to try ubuntu with wuby
[00:04] <richard___> Megarata, all right. one minute…
[00:04] <larson9999> am i the only one who thinks it's a bit in the wrong direction to require evolution?
[00:04] <M4rotku> hey all, i think i'm having a problem with my update manager, there haven't been any new updates available for more than a week
[00:04] <Megarata> ok
[00:04] <kupo> Slart: WORKS!
[00:04] <drivetrax> ferbyboy,  it's a terrible thing to waste an iPod
[00:04] <kupo> thanks for the keen eyes
[00:04] <Slart> kupo: yay!!..  =)
[00:04] <kupo> drivetrax: thank you for you help as well
[00:05] <kupo> take it easy, peace
[00:05] <larson9999> drivetrax, it's a terrible thing to buy an ipod.  eeek, apple is less free than microsoft.
[00:05] <Megarata> my wireless network interface appears as disabled on lshw
[00:05] <effowe> my monitor turns itself off after 10 minutes of inactivity, i've checked in the power management and turned it off but it still happens, how can i disable this?
[00:05] <shoot^> guys, i get a kernel crash whenever i run glxinfo under hardy. any suggestions?
[00:05] <RequinB4> ok... well this isn't working.  Does anyone know anywhere else i can get the bcm43xx-fwcutter package?
[00:05] <Megarata> how can i enable it? the hw button doesn't work
[00:06] <cappicard> whee... still upgrading hardy here
[00:06] <twinkie_addict> im not to worried :) my stuffs olready on dvd if something gos wrong andim trying to see wich ubuntu i want to run
[00:06] <Randomizer> ﻿/msg ubot5 etiquette
[00:06] <GabySoft> hi
[00:06] <Lardarse> !hi
[00:06] <MrObvious> RequinB4: I found it.
[00:07] <ferbyboy> drivetrax: it most certainly is...i dont wont to have to have my ipod be the reason i switch my os to windows man
[00:07] <M4rotku> has any1 else noticed a lack of updates recently?  i think my update checker might be misconfigured
[00:07] <RequinB4> MrObvious:  This is for me
[00:07] <maco> evolution crashed on me and now it won't start. it just says "GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."  Anyone know what to do?
[00:07] <GabySoft> i had some problem with the restricted drivers with ati, its normal, isnt ?
[00:07] <frankyd> oO looks like wubi shut down my windows partition ... i mean i installed ubuntu on the same drive but this is working, whatever i'm not able to see the win drive on my ubuntu
[00:07] <MrObvious> RequinB4: http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx Go to download the drivers try 1.
[00:07] <MrObvious> RequinB4: It's for debian but it will have the .sys file you need.
[00:07] <Lardarse> GabySoft: ati on linux is not a happy marriage :-/
[00:07] <maco> M4rotku: are you on hardy? there havent been any updates yet...
[00:08] <Scunizi> doubledew: sorry had phone call. If your bios settings have remained the same when install all OS's then if you want you could change them but that might mess up the grub reference and eliminate (probably the server) from booting.
[00:08] <GabySoft> yeah, i know XD nothing like my nvidia 440 mmx
[00:08] <GabySoft> slow, but nice
[00:08] <larson9999> maco, i'm on hardy.  i just got 36 updates
[00:08] <RequinB4> MrObvious - I'm not sure what to do with the sys file at this point, all i can gleam is i need the firmware
[00:08] <atlanta80> John_S: Well that is sufficiently aggravating. Restarted and the ndiswrapper module is loaded, but no wireless cards in ifconfig
[00:08] <maco> larson9999: i just did an apt-get update && aptitude full-upgrade and got 0
[00:08] <M4rotku> maco: thanks for the fyi, i was starting to get worried
[00:08] <maco> larson9999: maybe it hasnt propogated to all the mirrors
[00:09] <annonymous1> hi folks got a problem on gusty 7.10 just rebooted and it comes up with an error message
[00:09] <annonymous1> http://pastebin.ca/1002348
[00:09] <annonymous1> gnome starts funny like in its defult fasion  n no themes
[00:09] <larson9999> maco, maybe
[00:09] <GabySoft> but its extrange, until now i dont had "excesively" problems with the automatizaded drivers
[00:09] <MrObvious> RequinB4: Do that and you WILL have the firmware. After that you should be able to get ndiswrapper to work. Download it first then get back to me.
[00:09] <GabySoft> now i get an black screen if i turn it on
[00:09] <team1432> Hi, I've got a HH disk I burned from the ISO; if I want to upgrade from 7.10 LTS, can I do that using the CD, or do I have to have it download the upgrade?
[00:09] <GabySoft> no consoles, totally bloqued
[00:09] <John_S> atlanta80: Is wlan0 in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[00:09] <maco> annonymous1: what happens if you just open a terminal and run "gnome-settings-daemon" without the quotes?
[00:09] <Lardarse> annonymous1: happens occasionally. i have no idea what causes it
[00:10] <kucuk> #list
[00:10] <Lardarse> kucuk: ?
[00:10] <Scunizi> team1432: if it's the alternate cd iso then yes you can use that. If it's the live cd No
[00:10] <maco> team1432: if its an alternate cd, you can upgrade from it
[00:10] <LjL> team1432: you can't do that from the CD, unless it's the alternate CD, as far as i'm aware
[00:10] <_rp> RequinB4: you still having problems?
[00:10] <GabySoft> and i see some preople take the same problem
[00:10] <atlanta80> John_S: no, only the loopback interface
[00:10] <qt-x> dose sombody know ho to conect to irc on port 80 or 5050 ?
[00:10] <maco> evolution crashed on me and now it won't start. it just says "GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed."  Anyone know what to do?
[00:10] <RequinB4> _rp:  Yeah, but the problems are more of the nature "How do I do it", not "what to do?"
[00:10] <team1432> Scunizi, maco, LjL: alright, thanks
[00:10] <Jakoo> whats the pastebin please?
[00:10] <RequinB4> !paste
[00:10] <jk_> where is the trash located  in filesystem
[00:10] <Lardarse> annonymous1: i've never had iot happen twice in a row, though
[00:10] <david_-_-> when i do this command sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32 i get this error mv: cannot stat `firefox': No such file or directory, how do i fix this?
[00:11] <Lardarse> jk_: somewhere in ~
[00:11] <Lardarse> i think it's ~/.trash
[00:11] <_rp> RequinB4: hmmm ok, everything seem ok but you just cant connect? really, try rutilt
[00:11] <effowe> how do i prevent my screen from going black after 10 minutes?
[00:11] <Scunizi> qt-x: which irc client?
[00:11] <_rp> move your mouse
[00:11] <_rp> ;)
[00:11] <Lardarse> effowe: screensaver settings
[00:11] <maco> david_-_-: is firefox in your current directory?
[00:11] <richard___> Megarata, I can't find any definite solutions for your problem. sorry :\
[00:11] <annonymous1> maco http://pastebin.ca/1002349
[00:11] <adil> its posible install vmware in hardy ?
[00:11] <web> i just installed 8.04 and I can't add any users, all of the buttons are greyed out.  anyone else have that problem?
[00:11] <qt-x> pidgin
[00:11] <david_-_-> maco:  no idea how do i find out?
[00:11] <RequinB4> _rp:  Nah, I know what is wrong, its just more difficult and time intensive when i don't have a direct connection to the internet on the box
[00:11] <effowe> lardarse: i went in there and theres only an option to turn screensaver on, not stop it from going black..
[00:12] <annonymous1> how did u fix it Lardarse
[00:12] <John_S> atlanta80: OK, that's a problem. Do a "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and add "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" with some blank lines after it. Also I would highly recommend backing up your interfaces file tho before you modify it.
[00:12] <maco> david_-_-: well are you trying to move a file thats just sitting in whatever directory you're in or are you trying to move the default firefox?
[00:12] <Lardarse> effowe: you can tell it to shooce a screensaver in the list on the left
[00:12] <RequinB4> MrObvious - i'm downloading the exe
[00:12] <drivetrax> effowe,  - is there a (none) setting?
[00:12] <richard___> web, press ‘unlock’
[00:12] <Rigonn> How can I reformat my computer?
[00:12] <maco> david_-_-: the default firefox is just a symlink anyway
[00:12] <Rigonn> I'm using Ubuntu atm
[00:12] <david_-_-> maco: no there is no folder there
[00:12] <effowe> lardarse: well yes i realize that, i just wanted it to stay on forever, i turned off power management.. hrm, lemme look for none but i dont think its there
[00:12] <web> i thought unlock was to unlock a locked user
[00:12] <Lardarse> annonymous1: i don't know what causes it...
[00:12] <david_-_-> maco:  i am trying to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins
[00:13] <Lardarse> effowe: one of th4 checkboxes
[00:13] <Lardarse> the*
[00:13] <richard___> web, no, it's like the padlock on Mac OS X
[00:13] <Scunizi> qt-x: although pidgin works for irc.. you're better off using xchat.. not xchat-gnome.. but at the end of the server line in any of them try /<port number> or :<port number>
[00:13] <MattJ> Rigonn: Install gparted
[00:13] <david_-_-> maco:  i am on the installing 32bit edition of firefox.....
[00:13] <atlanta80> John_S: done
[00:13] <web> richard, thanks i will try that
[00:13] <maco> david_-_-: did you cd into the directory after you untarred it?
[00:13] <david_-_-> maco: yes
[00:13] <Bidget> hey guys Im having trouble installing packages, I get a weird error telling me that a package is trying to overwrite a .so file which is in a different package, and that the other package Im trying to install is trying to overwrite a .gz file... anyone know why this could be?
[00:13] <twinkie_addict> im installing kbuntu via wubi so if i have any issue ill let you know what the resolution was
[00:13] <drivetrax> twinkie_addict,  LVM
[00:13] <effowe> lardarse: 2 checkboxes, activate screensaver when computer is idle, and lock screen, when they're unchecked my screen still goes black after 10 mins
[00:13] <Scunizi> qt-x: not sure if it's still true.. but freenode use to want you to connect using chat.freenode.net/8001
[00:13] <GabySoft> ainssss... well i will take the manual thing if works
[00:13] <Lardarse> Scunizi: xchat expects port numbers to be like irc.freenode.net/6667
[00:14] <Daisuke-Ido> twinkie_addict: may god have mercy on your soul
[00:14] <Simonf1> bazhang: are you there?
[00:14] <Scunizi> Lardarse: yep..
[00:14] <Daisuke-Ido> good luck, in other words :)
[00:14] <Lardarse> effowe: strange...
[00:14] <twinkie_addict> lol
[00:14] <maco> david_-_-: cd ..
[00:14] <Scunizi> Lardarse: he was using pidgin.. not sure how that one works
[00:14] <maco> david_-_-: then do it
[00:14] <twinkie_addict> wubi worked fine with ubuntu
[00:14] <effowe> lardarse: could it be an x setting causing it?
[00:14] <nowimproved> iv got this ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso and went through the install untill almost the end and it asked fora  different cd
[00:14] <John_S> atlanta80: If you don't see it in the Network program yet, I think you need to reboot.
[00:14] <david_-_-> maco: i get the err of no such directory
[00:14] <Lardarse> effowe: i wouldn't know
[00:14] <richard___> Rigonn, can you be more descriptive? ‘reformatting’ isn't a real term
[00:14] <drivetrax> twinkie_addict,  - cut out wubi, use unetbootin - 8.04
[00:14] <effowe> aight..
[00:14] <annonymous1> maco do u have any ideas to the error
[00:14] <maco> annonymous1: no
[00:14] <qt-x> ﻿Scunizi:do you know if this irc server support conection on this port ?
[00:14] <Daisuke-Ido> twinkie_addict: you're installing both in separate installations?
[00:14] <atlanta80> John_S: No, rebooting...
[00:15] <nowimproved> any ideas?
[00:15] <maco> david_-_-: can you please "ls" and pastebin the output?
[00:15] <Bidget> hey guys Im having trouble installing packages, I get a weird error telling me that a package is trying to overwrite a .so file which is in a different package, and that the other package Im trying to install is trying to overwrite a .gz file... anyone know why this could be?
[00:15] <annonymous1> thanks for ur time any how :)
[00:15] <david_-_-> maco: i looked in the dir, my self there is no folder there should i just make one?
[00:15] <maco> david_-_-: i need to figure out where you are
[00:15] <nowimproved> it took forever to install then it just stops and asks for a different cd wtf?
[00:15] <twinkie_addict> i unistalled ubuntu to install kbuntu
[00:15] <maco> david_-_-: no
[00:15] <Lardarse> nowimproved: can you remember the error? paste.ubuntu-nl.oprg if it's more than 1 line
[00:15] <Scunizi> qt-x: this server wants typically 6667 or 8001. with 8001 use chat.freenode.net/8001 in xchat
[00:15] <effowe> ok firefox question if someone knows, in xp and osx i am able to press ctrl-1,2,3 whatever number and go to that tab, this doesnt work in ubuntu, anyone know how to enable it?
[00:15] <Simonf1> ﻿Bidget:  what packadges?
[00:15] <twinkie_addict> i hate running more than one test distro at atime
[00:15] <amnatz> 8.04 read usb 1.1 ?
[00:15] <maco> david_-_-: after you untarred that file it shouldve created a firefox directory
[00:15] <nowimproved> it was not an error Lardarse it was calling for a ubuntu cd labbled bleh i dont remember
[00:15] <Moc> Im disapointed of 8.04 so far.  7.10 worked better so far out of the box
[00:15] <Daisuke-Ido> twinkie_addict:  you are aware they're the same thing
[00:16] <Rigonn> richard___: Reformat as in remove everything from my hard drive and reinstall a different OS... I want to make my Hard Drive as if NEW remove every single thing to install the OS
[00:16] <nowimproved> when it was trying to install grub at the end Lardarse
[00:16] <Bidget> Simonf1, libg15-1_1.2.3-1_amd64.deb and libg15render1_1.2.0.svn250-2_amd64.deb are the ones that are giving me errors
[00:16] <twinkie_addict> but standard ubuntu is still looking to be my choice
[00:16] <Daisuke-Ido> twinkie_addict: you could have gone into the ubuntu install and installed the kubuntu-desktop package
[00:16] <Lardarse> nowimproved: are you sure it was asking for anothe cd, and not telling you to take the cd out? and also, is this a clean install?
[00:16] <david_-_-> maco: http://pastebin.ca/1002358
[00:16] <Bidget> Simonf1, I can pastebin the error results but I forget the pastebin link hahaha
[00:16] <twinkie_addict> true
[00:16] <Lardarse> !paste | Bidget
[00:16] <MrObvious> RequinB4: Ok once you get it unzipped lemme know.
[00:16] <twinkie_addict> but i might save some bugs haveing it better intergated
[00:16] <Lardarse> (also see the topic)
[00:16] <david_-_-> maco:  i am still cd into the firefox folder on the desktop
[00:16] <Bidget> thanks Lardarse
[00:16] <nowimproved> yes it is a fresh install , and it wanted me to take the cd out and put in a different one, and i could not eject the cd anyway so i dont know what wtf was going on
[00:17] <Simonf1> ﻿Bidget: somone else was in here with a similar problem that messed  up the computerm but it does not seem to be the same
[00:17] <twinkie_addict> brb need to reboot
[00:17] <drivetrax> Rigonn,  -- unsetbootin .. look into it.. I coulda wiped out both my drives.. grub/SuperGrub
[00:17] <RequinB4> MrObvious:  Am i just following the tut there?
[00:17] <MrObvious> Yeah for obtaining it.
[00:17] <Wicky656> is there any way to get daily system stats emailed to me via cron?
[00:17] <drivetrax> uhm.. unetbootin
[00:17] <MrObvious> RequinB4: Basically open a terminal, go to your home folder, and it has you make a tmp directory then download it.
[00:17] <Rigonn> drivetrax: what?!? I'm confused
[00:17] <effowe> when rotating the desktop cube i would like to see the windows on the other faces, they are blacked out though, anyone know how to change this?
[00:17] <Bidget> Simonf1, yeah my computer is fine its just these packages wont install and I dont understand why, Ive never had a problem with synaptic before
[00:18] <nowimproved> its bs wtf?
[00:18] <richard___> Rigonn, boot from the installation media for the OS. even Windows has a primitive partition editor
[00:18] <drivetrax> Rigonn,  unetbootin has grub that will download via network.. and it will wipe out what you have.. if you tell it to
[00:18] <Lardarse> !language | nowimproved
[00:18] <Bidget> why wont pastebin work its giving me a huge error
[00:18] <nowimproved> lardass do you have any ideas? what is going on?
[00:18] <Lardarse> nowimproved: no
[00:18] <nowimproved> well this sucks for me
[00:18] <Lardarse> Bidget: the factoid on the bot might be wrong
[00:18] <maco> david_-_-: cd ..
[00:18] <Randomizer> Yeah, pastebin isn't working for me either... Python error...
[00:18] <MrObvious> RequinB4: What was the exact URL I gave you?
[00:19] <shoot^> guys, glxinfo causes kernel crashes... any ideas?
[00:19] <Bidget> hmm
[00:19] <maco> david_-_-: you want to be *not* in the firefox directory
[00:19] <Bidget> I see
[00:19] <Lardarse> Bidget: Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (from the topic)
[00:19] <nowimproved> i dont get it at all
[00:19] <MrObvious> RequinB4: Nevermind, found it.
[00:19] <RequinB4> the debian wiki
[00:19]  * drivetrax looked and looked, and read for about two weeks before installing a second Hard disk.. I happened to already have here, then put ubuntu on it.. in 2 hours.. or less.. good boot, too.
[00:19] <david_-_-> maco:  no i did ls when i was in cd
[00:19] <mynyml> whats in the dvd?
[00:19] <maco> david_-_-: "cd ../" backs up one directory
[00:19] <david_-_-> maco: i tried the mv out of cd i stillg et same thng
[00:20] <maco> david_-_-: you need to backup out of the firefox directory and then do it
[00:20] <DonoftheDead> Hello kind folks
[00:20] <richard___> shoot^, proprietary drivers are common cause of crashes. are you using any?
[00:20] <Lardarse> !hi | DonoftheDead
[00:20] <DonoftheDead> :)
[00:20] <maco> david_-_-: the firefox directory is sitting on your desktop, right?
[00:20] <smee> hello
[00:20] <Bidget> can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastebin.com/m5f1b9ed I'm having problems installing a couple packages
[00:20] <Reng> anyone know how to get their logitech extra mouse button to work under 8.04. i seem to lost that functionally in the upgrade. any ideas? i have went through xorg.conf already.
[00:20] <DonoftheDead> would you folks enlighten me as to ubuntus compatibility with ultrasparc II archs?
[00:20] <Moc> this new vnc client in 8.10 doesn't connect to 7.10 vnc server !!!
[00:21] <shoot^> richard___,  fglrx from the repository
[00:21] <maco> david_-_-: cd ~/Desktop && sudo mv firefox /usr/local/firefox32
[00:21] <david_-_-> maco: yes and i do cd /home/name/Dekstop it wont do it
[00:21] <Randomizer> Here is what's in dmesg at the time of the crash (happens everytime screensaver comes on, X hangs) - http://pastebin.ca/1002360 - I'd appreciate any advise
[00:21] <Moc> had to install vnc text client afterward
[00:21] <david_-_-> maco: mv: cannot overwrite non-directory `/usr/local/firefox32' with directory `firefox'
[00:21] <Bidget> can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastebin.com/m5f1b9ed I'm having problems installing a couple packages
[00:21] <shally87> hi..
[00:21] <maco> david_-_-: sudo rm /usr/local/firefox32
[00:22] <DonoftheDead> I just got a free ultrasparc II workstation and I'm trying to find a suitable OS to use with it, and was wondering if ubuntu would work?
[00:22] <richard___> shoot^, heh. do you know how to check your system logs?
[00:22] <maco> david_-_-: you moved some other file there accidentally in the process
[00:22] <shally87> need help... i wanna ask why ubuntu dekstop consume around 5gb space/
[00:22] <drivetrax> uhm.. is Hardy code taken from someplace else.. I mean.. it's like getting mixed reviews
[00:22] <shoot^> pico /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[00:22] <shoot^> richard___ --^
[00:22] <david_-_-> maco: thank you it moved it now.
[00:22] <maco> shally87: should take more like 2gb i think...though not sure on hardy....why? thats not really a lot
[00:23] <fserve> ouvindo[Stratovarius - Elements Part II - Dreamweaver] length[0:02/5:53]
[00:23] <freddywind> salve....
[00:23] <edju> When using Kaffeine to view a dvd, it reports no dvd in drive and that codecs are already installed.  VLC works.  I checked the Xine sttings and as far as I can tell, they're OK.  Any pointers on this?
[00:23] <freddywind> vorrei un consiglio tecnico
[00:23] <richard___> shoot^, is that supposed to be pointing at something? :\
[00:23] <freddywind> possibile qui?
[00:23] <shally87> i only use 1 or 2 gb for windows..
[00:23] <lowlux> how do i RESET compiz fuse?
[00:23] <SpookyET> Why is Canonical realeasing rubbish? 20% of users had a flawless install/uprade to hardy.
[00:23] <maco> shally87: you dont have service packs installed? or is it win 98?
[00:24] <shoot^> richard___, yeah, i replied, but forgot to mention your name. Check the Xorg.0.log ?
[00:24] <AzizLight> I think my fans don't work, I'm using a macbook pro, is there a way to verify that? the temp of the hd is 40C it's huge
[00:24] <edju> Oh, one other thing - using hardy; Kaffeine worked in gutsy.
[00:24] <smee> just installed ubuntu, but i can' get on my wireless network...i can't see it on the network settings either..can anyone help?
[00:24] <maco> shally87: i installed ubuntu 7.04 on a 5gb (which means really 4gb because hard drive manufacturers measure funny) before
[00:24] <shally87> maco: i only use 1 or 2 gb for windows..nono i use xp pro..
[00:24] <Moc> anyone found a fix for Dell Omniplex 845 & Ubuntu 8.04 black screen of death ?
[00:24] <maco> shally87: xp with all the service packs, i was told, wouldnt fit on my 5gb drive i have at home
[00:24] <John_S> atlanta80: Did it work or what happened?
[00:25] <Megarata> no ideas_
[00:25] <Megarata> ?
[00:25] <Bidget> can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastebin.com/m5f1b9ed I'm having problems installing a couple packages
[00:25] <shally87> maco: owh..actually i wonder how come 1 cd of 730 mb can become 5 gig...
[00:25] <maco> shally87: but anyway, ubuntu includes a *lot* of software that windows doesnt
[00:25] <david_-_-> maco: ok i am on the part where i type in terminal firefox32 &    then this happens http://pastebin.ca/1002372
[00:25] <maco> shally87: oh the packages are compressed on teh cd
[00:25] <aleatorio>  /join #ubuntu-br
[00:25] <richard___> shoot^, check that log and also /var/log/dmesg
[00:26] <shally87> maco: yeah.. i notice that..so you mean it was compressed in word form then was translate to become an application after installation so that it can fit 1 disc?
[00:26] <maco> shally87: no source code is huge.  they compile it, then compress the binary and all the config files and put them on the cd, then the installer decompresses them
[00:27] <qt-x> ﻿﻿/join #ubuntu-ro
[00:27] <unenough> can I use apt-get to install an older version of a package?
[00:27] <shally87> owh..ok
[00:27] <Bidget> can anyone help me with this problem? http://pastebin.com/m5f1b9ed I'm having problems installing a couple packages
[00:27] <ubuntu> alguem ai desse lado
[00:27] <shally87> maco: owh ok..thanks for reply
[00:27] <ubuntu> alguem do Brasil????
[00:27] <Megarata> ok, so no luck with my wireless issue?
[00:28] <david_-_-> maco: any ideas on what i could do to fix that?
[00:28] <maco> david_-_-: ls /usr/local/firefox32/
[00:28] <maco> david_-_-: pastebin the output, please
[00:28] <mixed> !mp3
[00:28] <shally87> maco: and i got problem with my sudo.. when i click the run application and type there sudo fdisk -l, the terminal open and prompt for password.. then it closes..after that i cannot open sudo fdisk -l anymore..
[00:28] <ubuntu> ngm reponde ainda
[00:28] <david_-_-> maco: http://pastebin.ca/1002373
[00:29] <Bidget> anyone know how to fix a problem with synaptic
[00:29] <seancron> Bidget: depends...whats the problem?
[00:29] <azuk1> can i install ubuntu with a wifi ?
[00:29] <Bidget> seancron, http://pastebin.com/m5f1b9ed
[00:29] <ubuntu> ngm fal comigo
[00:29] <snikker> i'm unable to use my dvdrw. in dmesg when i insert a dvd, i've got this error http://pastebin.com/d3e05d96f
[00:29] <ubuntu> ngm ai responde
[00:30] <maco> shally87: fdisk is a terminal app, not a graphical one.  just open a terminal (application -> accessories -> terminal) and *then* run sudo fdisk -l
[00:30] <shally87> ok
[00:30] <shally87> i try first
[00:30] <MrObvious> RequinB4: Still downloading?
[00:30] <shally87> maco: i try first..thanks
[00:30] <seancron> Bidget: and what were you trying to do when you got this error?
[00:30] <maco> david_-_-: doh. i know what happend. you really did move a file named firefox before...but you moved teh file, not the directory
[00:31] <maco> david_-_-: untar the tarball again and then "sudo cp ~/Desktop/firefox/firefox /usr/local/firefox32/firefox"
[00:31] <Bidget> seancron, install libg15-1 and libg15render1
[00:32] <david_-_-> maco: done than wht?
[00:32] <mixed> !flash
[00:32] <maco> david_-_-: now try running it
[00:32] <richard___> azuk1, yes, but ensure that your wireless device is supported before installing: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/preparing-hardware.html
[00:33] <david_-_-> maco:  i did the firefox i had before is beta 5 and when i do firefox32 &, i get the same one...
[00:33] <ndsgjs8> anyone can tell me how can i format an mp4 player?
[00:33] <Bidget> seancron, any idea why that would be happening?
[00:33] <shally87> maco: what the meaning of this?? i take from my fdisl -l : http://pastebin.com/d37d9e590
[00:33] <seancron> Bidget: are you trying to update them because from the output, it seems like they already exist
[00:33] <mixed> is there flash software from adobe for ubuntu?
[00:33] <maco> david_-_-: you have to exit the already running one
[00:33] <richard___> Megarata, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/ubuntu-8.04-every-release-is-it-a-pain-to-install-broadcoms-bcm4318-wifi-637692/#post3132335
[00:33] <maco> david_-_-: give it about 10 seconds to finish closing as well
[00:34] <snikker> no ones?
[00:34] <david_-_-> maco: when i did the cd cp do i have to redue the scripts and stuff as well?
[00:34] <maco> david_-_-: firefox does a littl cleanup routine when it exits
[00:34] <Bidget> seancron, no it's trying to install them but keeps on giving me errors
[00:34] <ronandi> what is a good/your favorite ide? Ill be using for perl, python, java
[00:34] <maco> david_-_-: no the scripts are fine
[00:34] <Simonf1> ﻿ronandi: that's a little off topic
[00:34] <david_-_-> maco:  ok fire fox is shut down now
[00:34] <LogicalDash> I've had several whole-system-freezes occur when playing audio, most recently when Firefox restores a session that has YouTube open. It's weird because the audio keeps playing and the mouse keeps moving even as clicking and typing have no effect whatsoever and I can't even shut down properly. Are these part of a known issue?
[00:34] <ronandi> Simonf1: my bad
[00:34] <maco> david_-_-: ok, now try running it
[00:34] <MrObvious> RequinB4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4837990#post4837990
[00:35] <Bidget> seancron, now it's telling me I have 3 broken packages in my system and to use a broken filter to find them
[00:35] <david_-_-> maco: i did and now it will not load any web pages
[00:35] <LogicalDash> (I am now using Flashblock to prevent the crash)
[00:35] <maco> david_-_-: whats it doing?
[00:35] <riddlebox> man, hardy has made it not fun to use tv tuner cards
[00:35] <Bidget> seancron, ah yeah the 3 broken ones are the ones that are depending on those other 2 to be installed, but they keep having errors
[00:35] <david_-_-> saying problem loading page then sayes server not found...
[00:35] <maco> david_-_-: the page you linked me to tells you why it opened the same one as before: At this point, close down all instances of Firefox that you might have running. Firefox will spawn new versions of Firefox based upon any current versions you have running. This means that if you wish to load the 32 bit version, you must make certain that you have no instances of the 64 bit version running, and vice versa. Once you have closed all instances of Firefox (in
[00:35] <david_-_-> maco: saying problem loading page then sayes server not found...
[00:36] <maco> david_-_-: odd... are you going through a proxy?
[00:36] <david_-_-> maco:  nope just right to modem
[00:36] <seancron> well to fix broken packages try running sudo apt-get install -f
[00:37] <anoble> hello can someone help me with a problem?
[00:37] <jchance> is this the place to go for some newbie first boot error help?
[00:37] <Simonf1> ﻿jchance: yes
[00:38] <Simonf1> ﻿anoble: ask
[00:38] <shally87> maco: i think will be figuring it later..now i have to do something..thanks..
[00:38] <kbrooks> Um
[00:38] <richard___> LogicalDash, have you tried googling terms describing your problem? :)
[00:38] <david_-_-> maco: the beta 5 works for 64 bit but not the 32 bit
[00:38] <smee> can someone tell me how i can connect to a wireless network, please
[00:38] <anoble> i got ubuntu 8.04 installed, but now i cant get it installed on a idfferent system
[00:38] <Simonf1> ﻿ anoble: what is wrong with the install
[00:39] <anoble> uhm well, the CD drive is just spinning
[00:39] <seancron> Bidget: does sudo apt-get install -f help?
[00:39] <anoble> as has been doing so for a little while
[00:39] <anoble> and*
[00:39] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: on the top right click on the netork connection
[00:39] <Bidget> seancron, actually I got it working, I removed them all and then reinstalled them
[00:39] <styrman> if I have a executeable in ~/bin.. how do I put it into PATH gand so its always there?
[00:39] <Simonf1> upgrading or new install?
[00:39] <Bidget> seancron, they must have gotten like halfway installed and run into an error or something so they weren't working properly
[00:39] <smee> new install
[00:39] <Bidget> seancron, I really have no idea haha. but it's working now
[00:39] <anoble> its a new install
[00:40] <smee> i looked there, but there's no wireless option
[00:40] <Simonf1> sorry smee, not you
[00:40] <seancron> Bidget: haha as long as it works thats all that matters
[00:40] <Bidget> seancron, thanks man
[00:40] <seancron> Bidget: no problem
[00:40] <Bidget> :)
[00:40] <daemon3> Once I delete the notification area, is there any way to get it back?
[00:40] <kbrooks> styrman, open up .bashrc and type a new line @ end: export PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[00:40] <jchance> Simonf1:  Well, I had trouble getting the hardy installer to load.  I browsed the forums and found a few threads with people recommending trying an older version, so I downloaded the 7.10 alternate x64 CD and was able to successfully install. On first boot I got a kernel panic IO-APIC timer error, so I browsed some more and found to do noapic nolapic and that worked to get past the panic, but now my system hard locks on "Starting DHCP
[00:40] <kbrooks> styrman, then logout and login
[00:40] <styrman> kbrooks: thx
[00:40] <anoble> ok, restarted, the ubuntu screen loads that is right after you choose install ubuntu
[00:41] <annonymouse> how do u reinstall gnome
[00:41] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: can you connect wired?
[00:41] <Simonf1> ﻿anoble: what compter?
[00:41] <smee> No, I haven't...the router isn't very accessible
[00:42] <anoble> uhm, the one that i have not installed it on yet, this is the same CD that was used before for the other install
[00:42] <Simonf1> ﻿jchance: I can't help you, maybe someone else here can
[00:42] <kbrooks> question:
[00:42] <alpharesearch> hello, I had to reinstall from scratch and now i want to reuse my old home directory: how to change all the files to the new user name?
[00:42] <kbrooks> i want to free up disk space
[00:42] <jchance> bummer
[00:42] <Simonf1> ﻿anoble: what kind of computer?
[00:42] <anoble> Comapq
[00:42] <richard___> styrman, actually, that's not necessary. just create ~/bin then enter ‘. ~/.profile’
[00:42] <anoble> Compaq*
[00:42] <kbrooks> richard___, really?
[00:42] <patifa> Ok, this may sound dumb, but can someone explain what Wubi does in the technical sense to install Ubuntu?  I'm somehow at a loss on what it's doing, even though I'm quite technically competent.
[00:43] <styrman> richard___: thx
[00:43] <cirkit> hi ... whenever I start Ubuntu, nm-applet does not start and I have to manually do 'nm-applet &' to start it in the background. I tried putting that command in ~/.bashrc but it doesn't work when I Put it in there or in rc.local .... any ideas?
[00:43] <kbrooks> patifa, do you want a pm?
[00:43] <richard___> kbrooks, look at the bottom of ~/.profile :o
[00:43]  * anoble is Away eating
[00:43] <patifa> kbrooks: Forgot my IRC password, so that's not going to work.
[00:43] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: run networkManage
[00:43] <kbrooks> patifa, you dont need one
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> patifa read the wubi faqs and be sure you understnad them.  It uses a file on your ntfs drive to simulate a partition.
[00:44] <patifa> interesting
[00:44] <jchance> Does anyone know a possible cause or solution to booting locking up at "Starting DHCP D-Bus daemon dhcdbd" ?
[00:44] <_flu_> i'm repeating my SOS -;x- call: i just install hardy heron. and i also installed kopete. but my taskbar tray doesn't flash when a message recieved.. it's also the same in pidgin.. anybody help?
[00:44] <richard___> patifa, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_%28Ubuntu%29
[00:44] <Simonf1> ﻿anoble: what model?
[00:44] <snadge> i have my clock set to automatically update off the internet, with the correct timezone.. why is the time way out?
[00:44] <david_-_-> maco:  any ideas i been looking it up but i found nothing on my end
[00:45] <smee> ok, then what
[00:45] <cirkit> anyone?
[00:45] <LjL> !away > anoble    (anoble, see the private message from Ubotu)
[00:45] <Megarata> nice
[00:45] <richard___> snadge, do you use Windows on the same computer?
[00:45] <snadge> richard___: yes
[00:45] <Simonf1> ﻿jchance: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/29135
[00:45] <Megarata> now, it doesnt recognize my network connection
[00:45] <alpharesearch> how to change the user recursive on a directory including all the files
[00:45] <Megarata> via WIRE
[00:45] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: does anything come up in the top right?
[00:45]  * hmuller activates Super Cow Powers
[00:45] <Konam> _flu_ did you check the settings to see if they're enabled
[00:45] <jchance> Simonf1:  great, I'll check it out :)
[00:46] <smee> i'll have to write stuff down and try it later since i set up a dual boot
[00:46] <maco> david_-_-: no, ive never tried what youre doing because i dont use 64bity
[00:46] <smee> my desktop won't let me connect to the irc server
[00:46] <Simonf1> ﻿jchance: google is your friend. I just put you error in quotes.
[00:46] <bbyever> hardy uninstalled my graphics card drivers, how do i get them back?
[00:46] <david_-_-> maco:  how do i delete/remove everything i have just done?
[00:46] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: are you connected to the internet at all?
[00:47] <richard___> alpharesearch, ‘chown -R richard:richard <Path>’ (the format is ‘user name:primary group name’)
[00:47] <tarkus> how can i untar from terminal?
[00:47] <smee> no, not in ubuntu
[00:47] <maco> david_-_-: make sure you do this *exactly* because an extra space anywhere could hose your system. youve been warned
[00:47] <maco> david_-_-: sudo rm -rf /usr/local/firefox32
[00:47] <david_-_-> maco wait
[00:47] <tarkus> anyone?
[00:47] <Konam> bbyever check the restricted driver manager to see the status of your video card
[00:47] <maco> david_-_-: do *not* put a space anywhere inside that path
[00:48] <david_-_-> maco join me in room #wwed please so i wont lose u
[00:48] <Simonf1> ﻿smee:  use usernames in the messege
[00:48] <jiqiren_> tarkus: tar xvf
[00:48] <gressen> greets
[00:48] <smee> Simonf1: sorry...does it highlight it for you?
[00:48] <george> how can load subtitles with Totem?
[00:48] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: it says no proprietary drivers are being used
[00:48] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: better
[00:48] <Konam> bbyever if it's nvidia and is installed but not in use I think you have to install the nvidia-glx-new package
[00:48] <_flu_> Konam: yes, i did. when i first ask this question a guy replied "i am at the same situation".. it's so meaningless
[00:48] <richard___> snadge, Windows stupidly sets the computer's internal clock to the local time instead of the universal time like other operating systems. I'm unsure of any solution to this problem
[00:49] <Konam> _flu_ no idea what it is. check if is a plugin and is disabled or something..
[00:49] <IndyGunFreak> _flu_: what is the prob?
[00:50] <richard___> snadge, try this, and disable Internet clock synchronisation in Windows: http://weblogs.asp.net/dfindley/archive/2006/06/20/Set-hardware-clock-to-UTC-on-Windows-_2800_or-how-to-make-the-clock-work-on-a-Mac-Book-Pro_2900_.aspx
[00:50] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: ive got nvidia-glx installed, but its not being used
[00:50] <rpedro_> anyone using the SERVER kernel on a desktop with an nvidia card, and if so does the closed drivers work, and are there any other issues?
[00:50] <phoenixsol> hello, can anyone tell me whether it is odd to find a process called "http" running as root? (because of the process name, it is nearly impossible to search for)
[00:50] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: do you see an icon with a cable and a x next to it in the tray on the top right?
[00:50] <Megarata> how can i download some crap that i need to install on the Ubuntu laptop without wireless?
[00:50] <rpedro_> like stuff missing form the kernel that is needed on a desktop, I would like to know that
[00:50] <Moc> starting Xorg on my Dell OptiPlex 745 make the machine hang compleatly (remote ssh is also unresponsive)
[00:51] <Megarata> Can i like download an executable via Windows and install it on the Linux system?
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Megarata: can your ubuntu partition see your windows partition?
 right now I'm loggedin as lea, and I tupe sudo chmod -R cindy:cindy /home/cindy but I only get try chmod --help for more information
[00:51] <Konam> bbyever install the nvidia-glx-new, if you don't see it in synaptic you have to enable all the repositories
[00:51] <Simonf1> Is the ubotu factoid list down for other people too?
[00:51] <smee> Simonf1: i'm not sure...is it where i go to open up the network settings window?
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Simonf1: yes
[00:51] <Moc> reinstalling 7.10 damnit
[00:51] <Simonf1> ﻿Megarata:  no
[00:51] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: ok
[00:51] <Megarata> it's that b43-fwcutter crap useful for real?
[00:51] <_flu_> i upgraded to hardy heron.. and installed kopete. but the taskbar doesn't flash when i recieved a message.. pidgin also don't flash too.. i checked all prefs, but find no answer yet..
[00:51] <damaltor_> anybody using kde4 here? would be nice if someone could tell me a little about it
[00:51] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: yes
[00:51] <IndyGunFreak> Megarata: then yes, download it on windows, put it on the partition that linux can see, then run it under ubuntu
[00:51] <tarkus> whats the name of the default archive manager for ubuntu/gnome ??
[00:51] <koudelka> damaltor_, what would you like to know?
[00:52] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: click on it, what does it say?
[00:52] <patifa> phoenixsol: I've seen it.  While updating, I think.
[00:52] <drivetrax> Megarata,  -- I think you might be able to use windows to download a file to an NTFS partition under ubuntu.
[00:52] <anoble> hello after selcecting Install Ubuntu and seeing the Ubunru, and the little orange thing go across the screen, the screen goes black after about 5min and wont process
[00:52] <Moc> _flu_: pidgin is anoying in 8.04, when you double click on the icon of new message in the tray, it doesn't always bring you to the message
[00:52] <richard___> alpharesearch, is there both a user and group named ‘cindy’?
[00:52] <anoble> oh wait
[00:52] <Megarata> but, how can i download the same stuff that the Synaptic thingie has?
[00:52] <drivetrax> Megarata,  -- nothing stops you from downloading to an accessible area under windows, and seeing a local drive
[00:52] <phoenixsol> patifa, thanks. (I was intalling a package, come to think of it)
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> drivetrax: Megarata he should have access to his windows partition, under Linux, so just download the file under windows, remember where it  is, then go to linux, and navigate your ntfs partition, and run it under linux
[00:53] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: done. they are still not recognized
[00:53] <smee> Simonf1: i know the icon, but i don't remember
[00:53] <sielnt_> I'm loving the flash firefox crashes every 10 seconds
  yes
[00:53] <_flu_> Moc: it's also same in kopete
[00:53] <richard___> Moc, are you sure you're not supposed to just click the icon once?
[00:53] <omgshoes> hey
[00:53] <sielnt_> is everyone else having crash problems with firefox+flash?
[00:53] <Simonf1> ﻿smee: don't remember what> can  you access the computer now?
[00:53] <Cameron> Hi.  My boot hangs at setting up network interfaces.. hitting CTRL-ALT-DEL causes the boot process to finish.. any ideas ?
  I can see it under user settings and groups settings
[00:53] <IndyGunFreak> sielnt_: no
[00:53] <Moc> richard___: once or twice, it does the same thing, I have to find back in what desktop pidgin message window it is and activate it ... very annoying
[00:53] <acecase> hello
[00:54] <drivetrax> IndyGunFreak,  -- yes.. that is true.. but weird .. why download under windows.. when apt-get can go after these packages made for linux
[00:54] <koudelka> sielnt_, yes, and it's a reported bug with high priority
[00:54] <Megarata> ok, how am i supposed to see my windows from ubuntu?
[00:54] <_flu_> moc: oh, sorry. i got the messages.. taskbar doesn't blinks, thats all..
[00:54] <adrian_2002ca> helllo all...
[00:54] <GhotiPhud> I've got a minor problem with the radeon driver on my laptop.  When I output to the LCD and TV, the refresh rate is really slow.
[00:54] <omgshoes> anyone know why my steam games are blinking on wine?
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> drivetrax: because linux doesn't recognize his wireless connection, if you'd have paid attention to him
[00:54] <sielnt_> koudelka: it's been happening for the entire alpha/beta development
[00:54] <smee> Simonf1: i installed it as dual-boot...and i'm using the computer now (in windows)
[00:54] <adrian_2002ca> how do i use metacity to make window borders transparent
[00:54] <sielnt_> koudelka: sorta expected it to be fixed by release...
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> he needs to download his wireless firmware
[00:54] <tarkus> whats the name of the default archive manager for ubuntu/gnome ??
[00:54] <damaltor_> koudelka: i just did run the livecd, and kde4 looks very good. but is it good? i like the desktop widgets thing.. any problems? how about desktop effects? more/less then compiz? does compiz work if i want to use it? how? i am using xfce on a small notebook and have a debian console server too, im not a beginner. i like kde because its nice and works fine, but i want to know how easy and how stable kde4 is before re-setup of my pc ...
[00:54] <Konam> bbyever you have to close your session and log in again
[00:54] <Moc> _flu_: sometime it doesn't, Im not sure about taskbar bliking, I dont remember if it blink in 7.10
[00:54] <damaltor_> ... here. do you know any real advantages and disadvantages to kde3?
[00:54] <smee> Simonf1: i'm pretty much going on memory right now
[00:54] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: ok brb
[00:54] <acecase> I use tversity in windows to convert video to flash 7 and stream it to my wii on the fly. Is there anything for ubuntu that will do the same?
[00:55] <Simonf1> hold on
[00:55] <sielnt_> damaltor_: the menus get hella messy
[00:55] <drivetrax> IndyGunFreak,  -- Ohhhhh!  Yeah.. they found One wireless that will not work with Hardy
[00:55] <richard___> alpharesearch, does chmod say anything else?
[00:55] <GhotiPhud> I've got a minor problem with the radeon driver on my laptop.  When I output to the LCD and TV, the refresh rate is really slow.  Can anyone shed some light on the issue?
[00:55] <damaltor_> sielnt_: how that?
[00:55] <Moc> Im very disapointed at 8.04 release, it been hell for me all the way (ok well not hell, but close to it)
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> drivetrax: it wil work, just like it does on all versinos of linux, it just requires special firmware
[00:55] <Simonf1> smee: http://kirsten.urbanzone.com/blog/uploads/misc/ubuntu_network_manager.png
[00:55] <Kevin`> http://pastebin.ca/1002399 - what do I have to do to get vmware working on ubuntu 8.x?
  no, only try help form mor information
[00:55] <koudelka> damaltor_, kde4 isn't feature complete and they are saying that themself. so you will notice glitches and things that are just missing
[00:56] <koudelka> damaltor_, they mainly focus on developers and early adaptors atm
[00:56] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: i think its awesome, no probs here... one on pc i just built, 1 on an old pc, and 1 on a fairly new laptop
[00:56] <damaltor_> koudelka: so better wait for 4.1 or 4.2 or something?
[00:56] <snadge> richard___: there used to be an option in debian whether you wanted to set your system clock to UTC or localtime? why is ubuntu not this flexible?
[00:56] <shoot^> richard___, could this be significant? "Warning: LookupDrawable()/SecurityLookupDrawable() are deprecated.  Please convert your driver/module to use dixLookupDrawable()."
[00:56] <sielnt_> damaltor_: I prefer the logical layout of the gnome panel. I find kde3 to be more windowsish... a mishmash of unrelated launchers
[00:56] <koudelka> damaltor_, yes, 4.1 will be out in about 3 month
[00:56] <sielnt_> damaltor_: kde4 is a lot better
[00:56] <snadge> and regardless of what its set to, shouldn't the "automatic" part in ubuntu fix that?
[00:56] <richard___> acecase, try WINE
[00:56] <Megarata> damn
[00:56] <koudelka> damaltor_, they relese bug fixes each month and a major feature release every 6th month
[00:57] <Megarata> i connected it via cable to the router and still no freaking internet
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> its gonna take a lot more than kde4 for me to even consider using it.
[00:57] <shally87> hi..
[00:57] <shally87> do i need antivirus for ubuntu?
[00:57] <jrib> shally87: no
[00:57] <sielnt_> shally87: no
[00:57] <Kevin`> shally87: not really.
[00:57] <L> Um can anyone help me with this....?
[00:57] <GhotiPhud> haha
[00:57] <twinkie_addict> its bit to get used too not sure i like the sled menu
[00:57] <L> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/1charmed1/Screenshot.png
[00:57] <sielnt_> shally87: welcome to linux, by the way
[00:57] <damaltor_> koudelka: well, my girlfriend wants to have linux too now after seeing compiz in action and having another hundred viruses on win. i am searching for her, too. the system ought to be nice and complete, without big problems.
[00:57] <smee> Simonf1: i have the icon with the double monitors, but i can't get anything with wireless networks
[00:57] <isdepopecath> What's a good program for unarchiving .rar?
[00:57] <Megarata> so, this thing do nothing... no wireless, no wired
[00:57] <damaltor_> sielnt_: better in what?
[00:57] <shally87> kevin`; WHY?
[00:57] <arkansas> hello
[00:57] <drivetrax> Megarata,  - say you cannot get out with a cable?
[00:57] <Megarata> that's amazing
[00:57] <twinkie_addict> but i can boot intoo windows just fine
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> shally87: unless you're using it to protect windows machines(ie, you're acting as a server), its very unlikely you need it.
[00:57] <Cameron> Hi.  My boot hangs at setting up network interfaces.. hitting CTRL-ALT-DEL causes the boot process to finish.. any ideas ?
[00:57] <jrib> L: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:57] <nonewmsgs> i have a sandisk cruzer 8gb fat32 thumb drive.  it works fine in linux but it freezes windows systems.  are there any fat tools like fsck or chkdsk for it?
[00:57] <smee> Simonf1: i don't get that little window that you showed
[00:58] <sielnt_> isdepopecath: unrar or unrar-free
[00:58] <shally87> sielnt: thanks
[00:58] <NateF> guys, im getting a CD mount error, it cant mount the CD-ROM, i have the menu, what should i do now?
[00:58] <richard___> snadge, that's probably possible, but I don't know how you do that :)
[00:58] <L> Um... what?
[00:58] <koudelka> damaltor_, for a beginer gnome is better. the whole point of gnome is to be super simple
[00:58] <isdepopecath> sielnet_: Thank you.
[00:58] <jrib> !pastebin > L (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:58] <L> I'm new.
[00:58] <sielnt_> koudelka: amen
[00:58] <Megarata> Well, i hope that 8.10 IS ready for wireless
[00:58] <Kevin`> anyone? help with vmware?
[00:58] <jrib> !who | L
[00:58] <GhotiPhud> I've got a minor problem with the radeon driver on my laptop.  When I output to the LCD and TV, the refresh rate is really slow.  Can anyone shed some light on the issue?
[00:58] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: It was very anoying to get it running in dual head on my desktop (nvidia) new xorg screen res configurator is useless.  Language switch shortcut was remove/replaced . Now try to upgrade my Dell Desktop to get a blackscren at reboot, tryed to boot the install Cd and same result.  New VNC clients suck, can't access ubuntu 7.10 default vnc server, had to install console vnc clients...
[00:58] <jrib> !vmware > kevin` (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> !antivirus
[00:58] <shally87> indygunfreak: if i using for developing website no need right??
[00:58] <jrib> !rar > isdepopecath (read the private message from ubotu)
[00:58] <koudelka> still i think gnome sometimes is to big and round, make it look like a toy
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> shally87: i wouldn't think so.
[00:58] <shally87> ok
[00:59] <shally87> thanks indy
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> shally87: hang on, i'll give you a link to explain it
[00:59] <damaltor_> koudelka: i dont really like gnome (though i must admit that i never used it long time) and i am used to kde and dont really want to change (and i would have to if i want to help her... =) )
[00:59] <NateF> what should i do for CD-ROM mounting error
[00:59] <Kevin`> jrib: so there's no way to make it work?
[00:59] <shally87> !linuxvirus
[00:59] <arkansas> Hi. I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.10. The upgrade didn't complete and I have lost my desktop?
[00:59] <shally87> ok
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> shally87: nevermind, thats the link i was gonna give you
[00:59] <shally87> owh..
[00:59] <mfe> Congratulations on the new release
[00:59] <shally87> indy: thanks
[00:59] <Moc> considering moving back at 7.10, but It anoying that I might be stuck with the same issues at 8.10
[00:59] <shally87> brb
[00:59] <jrib> Kevin`: what do you mean?  I gave you the link about vmware.   Do you have a specific question other than "help with vmware?"
[00:59] <richard___> isdepopecath, File Roller. you might also need to install the ‘unrar’ package
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: what nvidia card do you have? my dual screens work fine
[01:00] <jrib> L: do you understand what you need to do?
[01:00] <NateF> what do i do for a cd rom mounting error? need help!!!
[01:00] <Kevin`> jrib: yeah.. let me find it in my backlog
[01:00] <koudelka> damaltor_, well it depends what you are going to use the system for. kde4 is a lot easier then kde3 that has become bloated with tons of configuration windows and stuff
[01:00] <sielnt_> NateF: you'd do well to pastebin the actual error
[01:00] <isdepopecath> richard___: Yea, I'm getting the 'unrar' package right now
[01:00] <GMWeezel> can I change my desktop icon alignment grid size?
[01:00] <Kevin`> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1002399 - what do I have to do to get vmware  working on ubuntu 8.x?
[01:00] <Kevin`> just the console, not the kernel part
[01:00] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: I finally got it to work, Nvidi 8600 GT.  Had to install nvidia drivers (from the repo)(first time I try to load it, it say it was already installed but not running)
[01:01] <damaltor_> koudelka: do you know some examples of what does not work in kde4 / what is missing / what could be annoying/disturbing/...?
[01:01] <arkansas> Is 8.10 ok to run on a laptop?
[01:01] <jrib> Kevin`: how did you install it?
[01:01] <asizemore> yes
[01:01] <NateF> it says that same that i said: "a setup error accuried, error: mount CD-ROM", then its bring me to the main menu after i hit enter
[01:01] <Kevin`> jrib: tar
[01:01] <jrib> arkansas: 8.10 does not exist
[01:01] <koudelka> damaltor_, kde 4.0.0 was kinda hard to use in my opinion because there were quite a few annoying things, but now they are at 4.0.3 and it's becoming better
[01:01] <mfe> firestarter reported an attack from youtube - should i be concerned?
[01:01] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: well, all you would have to do was enable in hardware driver manager, then install nvidia-settings, and thats it.
[01:01] <arkansas> jrib: 8.....
[01:01] <jrib> arkansas: 8.04? sure
[01:01] <shel_len> How can I switch video drivers for the console?
[01:01] <Moc> Once drivers is install, I had to install the nvidia-settings(no idea why it not installed with the driver)
[01:01] <maco> evolution
[01:02] <maco> bah
[01:02] <microwaver> anyone know how to install custom themes. I can't seem to start the 'Theme Installer'
[01:02] <NateF> it says that same that i said: "a setup error accuried, error: mount CD-ROM", then its bring me to the main menu after i hit enter
[01:02] <damaltor_> koudelka: are there some really noticeable glitches or things tht really could be missed?
[01:02] <larson9999> in hardy when i chose shutdown it starts shutting down but hangs until i do ctl+alt+backspace.  is this a known issue or something specific to my machine?
[01:02] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: normally yes, problem is on my first install, it show the drivers as already installed..
[01:02] <arkansas> ok
[01:02] <maco> anyone know why id get this error trying to run evolution? Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:02] <koudelka> damaltor_, well for me i think the menu and start panel is still incomplete. you can add things to it but you can't move them around. and if you mess things up you kinda have to reset it all
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: but were they enabled?
[01:02] <IndyGunFreak> there's a difference
[01:02] <GMWeezel> ﻿can I change my desktop icon alignment grid size?
[01:02] <NateF> Pelo: i have a mount error, can u help me out?
[01:02] <arkansas> jrib: I started the upgrade and it didn't complete. now my desktop is gone?
[01:02] <jrib> Kevin`: did the wiki page ubottu send not help?
[01:02] <xyphor> I see some people are having problems with 8.04 and their keyboard not responding.  I'm having that problem too.  USB legacy support is disabled in my BIOS (one suggested fix)
[01:03] <Moc> so I installed it manually, but that didn't work(crash at every reboot) but someone told me I just had to remove some package and it would have work fined
[01:03] <mfe> microwaver did you start it from the applications menu?
[01:03] <koudelka> damaltor_, but as long as you aren't messing with the start panel it's working well
[01:03] <Kevin`> jrib: ubottu just said "not for hardy"
[01:03] <richard____> alpharesearch, did you have any success?
[01:03] <Pelo> GMWeezel, I've been looking for the same,   the only thing I found is in nautilus, prefs, compact spacing ,or some such
[01:03] <jrib> Kevin`: didn't he give you a link to a wiki page?
[01:03] <Pelo> NateF, what's the drive what's the fs and do you have a mount point ?
[01:03] <NateF> i have the following error on installation: it says that same that i said: "a setup error accuried, error: mount CD-ROM", then its bring me to the main menu after i hit enter
[01:03] <damaltor_> koudelka: so, would you give it a try for a beginner?
[01:03] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: it was installed, Enable but `Not in Use`
[01:03] <microwaver> mfe, no, it's not in thtat list
  no
[01:03] <microwaver> mfe, I used deskbar applet
[01:03] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: ok..
[01:03] <koudelka> damaltor_, other then that, the thing that is missing in kde4 is really applications using the qt4.4 libary and giving them the kde4 look
[01:03] <Moc> anyway, after a reinstall and an update to a different repos, it finally show as not installed
[01:03] <GMWeezel> Pelo: Alright, thanks. it's a popular annoyance in gnome but i was hoping that maybe after all the complaining they had fixed it.
[01:03] <jrib> arkansas: can you be more specific?  What exactly happened?  What errors did you get?
[01:04] <NateF> drive C hard drive, whats fs?? how do i make a mount point?
[01:04] <Pelo> GMWeezel, I'm not saying you can'T fine tune it somewhere, I just haven'T figured it out yet,  try looking it up in the forum
[01:04] <mfe> microwaver go to sys pref main menu and add it
[01:04] <damaltor_> koudelka: so lots of apps look like kde3 still?
[01:04] <DanApredistro> hi I want to modify my psmouse.ko file. I read that best way is to create a file in  modprobe.d I would like to chat with someone more on this. is anyone familiar with what I am talking about?
[01:04] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my wireless working on my Dell e1505 with Hardy. I've added the driver for my card with the Windows Wireless Drivers gui. Everything tells me its working - the status light for the wireless is green, ubuntu says its working, etc. But it can't find any networks. I've checked the network with another computer and it works fine. iwlist scaning says 'No scan results' for wlan0. Any ideas?
[01:04] <koudelka> damaltor_, yes, there are apps that looks like kde 3 still
[01:04] <Pelo> NateF, this is your windows partition you are tying to mount ? inside ubuntu ?
[01:04] <skyhook19> Hi, does anyone here no things about encrypting folders?
[01:04] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: It probably a bug that when the install has NOT sync with the repository atless one, it show bad informations
[01:04] <skyhook19> *know
[01:05] <GMWeezel> Pelo: been there, have been looking for some months actually. im certain the source code can be edited but i don't want to go through all that every time i watn to change the grid
[01:05] <NateF> i dont have any partitios right now
[01:05] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: its not a bug
[01:05] <Kevin`> jrib: the page doesn't have any instructions for 8.x
[01:05] <L> jrib:  I don't really understand.
[01:05] <microwaver> mfe, where can I find it?
[01:05] <NateF> i have my main hard drive partition
[01:05] <L> The page I was sent to is in German.
[01:05] <Pelo> NateF, use my nick when talking to me,  it helps me keep trck
[01:05] <Cameron> any ideas why "ifup tap0" would hang ?
[01:05] <plath> Hi, I have switch between full screen and windowed when i launch fullscreen application (games...)
[01:05] <koudelka> damaltor_, that's why they are saying it's mostly for developers. it's not because it's anything wrong with it, it's just so that developers can start using it and convert their applications
  but there is a first line of the error message I previously over looked chmod: invalid mode cindy:cindy - sorry
[01:05] <NateF> pelo: sorry
[01:05] <Pelo> NateF, do you have ubuntu installed or are you trying to isntall it ?
[01:05] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: well, saying that it installed and enable when it not installed... I call that a BUG
[01:05] <bbyever> Konam: its fixed, thanks!
[01:05] <richard____> NateF, try using the ‘check CD for defects’ function
[01:05] <zelrikriando> eh Pelo
[01:05] <jrib> L: open the file /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, copy the contents, visit the pastebin site ubotu gave you, paste the contents there, hit submit, give me the link
[01:05] <NateF> Pelo: im trying to install it
[01:05] <damaltor_> koudelka: ok, well thats alright i think. how about desktop effects, maybe in comparison with compiz? everywhere i read "no compiz needed" and things like that, is that true? or are there only some transparencies and thats it?
[01:05] <mfe> microwaver other / theme installer
[01:05] <Pelo> helo zelrikriando
[01:06] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: well, you would be misidentifying it.
[01:06] <zelrikriando> Pelo: I solved my problem
[01:06] <NateF> richard___: i did, nothing happens
[01:06] <arkansas> jrib: my computer froze and I had to do a hard shut down. I restarted and checked for updates, 300+ installed, and the error said "only a partial upgrade was possible"
[01:06] <richard____> alphakamp, oh. did I tell you to use chmod instead of chown? oops, sorry!
[01:06] <jrib> Kevin`: which instructions are not applicable to 8.04?
[01:06] <mfe> microwaver system / prefernces / main menu / other / theme installer
[01:06] <zelrikriando> Pelo: the problem was....that there were no problem :p
[01:06] <arkansas> jrib: froze during upgrade
[01:06] <Konam> bbyever you're welcome :)
[01:06] <damaltor_> koudelka: for myself, i dont use them. but my girlfriend wants to show off in course with it :D
[01:06] <richard____> alphakamp, (chown changes who owns a file; chmod changes who can access a file)
[01:06] <Pelo> NateF, ok , are you on the live cd right now ?  goto  menu > system> admin> gnome partiton editor, once you open it , it will scan your hdd and it will mount all available partiton to your desktop
[01:06] <koudelka> damaltor_, if you are thinking of installing for your girlfriend, i think you should consider what she would like the most and that is probably a simple easy system without having much hassle. then gnome is the way to go
[01:06] <plath>  I have switch between full screen and windowed when i launch fullscreen application (games...). i use ubuntu 8.04 how to fix it ?
[01:06] <microwaver> mfe, nope can't seem to find it
[01:06] <Pelo> zelrikriando, remind me , what was the issue again ?
[01:06] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: one more thing, do you know how to get emerald workling again?
[01:07] <mfe> microwaver what version?
[01:07] <koudelka> damaltor_, well kde4 sure makes a good showoff ;)
[01:07] <L> jrib: the page does not go where it is supposed to.  It's German and gave some sort of error.
[01:07] <NateF> Pelo: i am trying to install the alternative CD on a completely blank 120GB hard drive
[01:07] <microwaver> 7.10
[01:07] <zelrikriando> Pelo: the resolution
[01:07] <mfe> oh
[01:07] <richard____> NateF, define ‘nothing’ :)
[01:07] <mfe> why?
[01:07] <Konam> bbyever Emerald? compiz you mean :)
[01:07] <Pelo> plath, type F usualy toggle full screen windowed
[01:07] <jrib> L: use pastebin.com
[01:07] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: Im a linux fan, but I know when to admit when it suck... and 8.04 ain't great in my experience so far
  no you didn't tell me wrong - I messed up
[01:07] <damaltor_> koudelka: good thing. i will try a little with gnome, and consider that too. thanks so far for all your help!
[01:07] <Pelo> zelrikriando, ok meaning you can'T get the res you want with your card ?
[01:07] <NateF> richard___: no partitions, nothing on it at all
[01:07] <drivetrax> how to install a launcher from the >Internet Menu.. to replace FireFox in that list?
  I guess the tab button did it..
[01:08] <Pelo> NateF, isyour hdd blank ?
[01:08] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: well, you can't blame the OS for user incompetence.. thats all i'll say on it.
[01:08] <microwaver> mfe got e a theme from gnome-look and can't seem to find a way to install it.
[01:08] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: well compiz effects are all good, only emerald is not decorating my windows as it should...
[01:08]  * IntangibleLiquid installing xubuntu on his old pc
[01:08] <koudelka> damaltor_, here i have kde4 on a old 1ghz laptop. http://bandwidth.se/imgs/20/0/screenshotoflundgrenlundgrenlaptopshareddesktop.png
[01:08] <richard____> alpharesearch, hehe. oh well :)
[01:08] <NateF> Pelo: yes, completely
[01:08] <wigglez_> hey guys, anyone know of a way to scan udp ports to see if they are open
[01:08] <shally87> i back..
[01:08] <mfe> microwaver ahh
[01:08] <Kevin`> jrib: it specifically says which versions the different parts of the instructions apply to
[01:08] <damaltor_> koudelka: oh, and one mor thing: i really HATE konqueror. how do i get it out and only use firefox?
[01:08] <Pelo> NateF, then you donT' need to mount it ,  just proceed with the installer, it will install on the whole hdd
[01:08] <shally87> indy
[01:08] <Konam> bbyever oh, I don't use emerald, I prefer the gtk integration :)
[01:08] <NateF> Pelo: so what should i click exactly
[01:08] <Edualc1> Hi, I'm new as using Ubuntu and I have a problem with my HP Scanjet 5300C.  Every time I use it closes Ubuntu and it doesn't work.  Does anyone know how to solve this problem
[01:08] <Edualc1> ﻿Hi, I'm new as using Ubuntu and I have a problem with my HP Scanjet 5300C.  Every time I use it closes Ubuntu and it doesn't work.  Does anyone know how to solve this problem
[01:09] <terrestre> someone using a inestable compiz version? some recommended repo?
[01:09] <richard____> NateF, I thought you were trying to install Ubuntu, but you couldn't proceed due to an error. am I correct?
[01:09] <alexbobp> ﻿I upgraded my kubuntu, and after I replaced my new blank home directory with a symlink to my old one, sound broke.  How can I fix it?
[01:09] <mfe> microwaver want to hear my knock knock joke?
[01:09] <Pelo> NateF, you want to use the whole hdd to install ubuntu ? just click the install icon on the desktop
[01:09] <shally87> indy: if i were to transfer files to my thumbdrive and use the thumbdrive for other windows pc, no virus will follow is it?
[01:09] <koudelka> damaltor_, you can just install firefox with synaptic
[01:09] <bbyever> ﻿Konam: oh ok, well thanks anyway.
[01:09] <Moc> IndyGunFreak: hey kid, read back what I said before... OS tell USER it installed and enable. USER stupid to think the OS is right ?
[01:09] <microwaver> mfe, yes. do enjoy me
[01:09] <NateF> Pelo: let me try hold on
[01:09] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: hey kid, read back what i said
[01:09] <Pelo> terrestre, just ask in #compiz
[01:09] <NateF> richard: your partly correct hold on
[01:09] <damaltor_> koudelka: did so, directly with apt. but konq still is standard browser :/
[01:09] <mfe> are you american?
[01:09] <tinin> hey! there's a big bug. "sudo apt-get install anarchy" does not work in hardy. And it's going to be 1st May
[01:09] <terrestre> Pelo, thanks
[01:09] <wigglez_> can someone here run a port scan?
[01:09] <microwaver> mfe,  haha no, Belgian :)
[01:09] <koudelka> damaltor_, there you have another problem. if there are apps you want to use that are gtk apps. then it will look kinda bad and you have to mess around with the gtk themes to make it look good
[01:10] <IndyGunFreak> Moc: if you don't like my answers, you're the one who's continued this conversation
[01:10] <jrib> Kevin`: yes, I understand.  You need to read them and discern if they are applicble to 8.04.  Which vmware product are you installing exactly?
[01:10] <Pelo> !offtopic | mfe
[01:10] <wigglez_> er wrong chan
[01:10] <wigglez_> brb
[01:10] <Kevin`> jrib: just the vmware server console
[01:10] <mfe> pelo sorry
  I'm working on two computers, some information got lost on the way to the other computer - but it worked and I'm able to login - thank you!
[01:10] <mfe> beg pardon room
[01:10] <koudelka> damaltor_, i haven't used kde so much, but that should be in the system settings. i know where you change it in gnome though :P
[01:10]  * Pelo can'T beleive he just !OTed someone , he feels embarrased
[01:10] <Edualc1> ﻿Hi, I'm new as using Ubuntu and I have a problem with my HP Scanjet 5300C.  Every time I use it closes Ubuntu and it doesn't work.  Does anyone know how to solve this problem
[01:10] <richard____> alpharesearch, you're welcome
[01:10] <shally87> ﻿!help..if i were to transfer files to my thumbdrive and use the thumbdrive for other windows pc, no virus will follow is it?
[01:10] <jrib> Kevin`: did it install successfully from the tar.gz?
[01:10] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my wireless working on my Dell e1505 with Hardy. I've added the driver for my card with the Windows Wireless Drivers gui. Everything tells me its working - the status light for the wireless is green, ubuntu says its working, etc. But it can't find any networks. I've checked the network with another computer and it works fine. iwlist scaning says 'No scan results' for wlan0. Any ideas?
[01:10] <microwaver> !sorry | mfe
[01:11] <NateF> Pelo: it now says, theres a reading error, make sure its in the right frive(it's in the right drive)
[01:11] <Pelo> Edualc1, what do you mean it closes ubuntu ?
[01:11] <damaltor_> koudelka: the thing with the gtk apps is the same in kde3, no?
[01:11] <Kevin`> jrib: yes, but it doesn't run properly
[01:11] <L> jrib: OK.  I'm on Windows right now...  Dual boot, because of the trouble.  Um...  Where do I get the file in windows?  My wireless stopped working in Ubuntu.
[01:11] <mfe> thanks ubottu
[01:11] <koudelka> damaltor_, yes
[01:11] <Edualc1> !Help
[01:11] <Pelo> NateF, make sure what is in the right drive ?
[01:11] <damaltor_> koudelka: so, that will make no difference.
[01:11] <jrib> L: what version of windows?
[01:11] <microwaver> !theme | microwaver
[01:11] <richard____> shally87, viruses and malware which run on Linux are rare, so no
[01:11] <koudelka> damaltor_, but i think kd3 looks worse then gnome :P
[01:11] <NateF> Pelo: the CD-ROM
[01:11] <L> jrib: Vista
[01:11] <Pelo> NateF, is the cdrom in the cdrom drive ?
[01:12] <Pelo> Edualc1, what do you mean it closes ubuntu ?
[01:12] <NateF> Pelo: yes, it failed to copy a file
[01:12] <damaltor_> koudelka: ...just started download of standard ubuntu with gnome. you really seem to be happy with it =)
[01:12] <mfe> Gnome is clean and crisp!
[01:12] <jrib> L: well you need to sort out the connection issue to use APT anyway, so you should do that first and then work on the APT error you get
[01:12] <Edualc1> It reboots Ubuntu everytime
[01:12] <shally87> richard: owh owh...thanks richard..i just afraid there is a newly virus created compactible for linux and windows.. lol ..
[01:12] <led> i am still more of a windows user but i makeing the  change as i am digging ubuntu but what the heck do you do when a app freezes   the is no ctrl alt del for a task manager so i would be able to kill the process.
[01:12] <L> jrib:  Any help on that?
[01:12] <Pelo> NateF, ok reboot the computer,  from the cd boot menu , choose ,  check cd integrity ,  let it do it's job and see if hte cd is ok , it yes, jsut try again
[01:13] <jrib> !wifi > L (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:13] <Pelo> Edualc1, please use my nick when talking to me,  it helps me keep track
[01:13] <Simonf1> ﻿led: there is force quit
[01:13] <microwaver> anyone who can tell me how to install the downloaded themes I got from gnome-look.org ?
[01:13] <NateF> Pelo: ok, hold on
[01:13] <Pelo> Edualc1, ok ,  are you scanning with it or just printing ?
[01:13] <L> jrib:  It worked last night, but my laptop battery died, and since then I've had this trouble....
[01:13] <mfe> Simonf1 is force quit in system monitor?
[01:13] <Edualc1> Pelo: sorry I'm totally new to this
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> microwaver: right click your desktop, choose properties, then click the theme window, then drag/drop the new theme into that window
[01:13] <Pelo> microwaver, open the theme manager  menu > yustem> prefs > apperance,   and just drag the tar.gz file in it
[01:14] <Pelo> Edualc1, no problem
[01:14] <ldz420> Hey i used env to see the different environmental variables but I am not finding them in /etc/profile or ~/.profile so where are the environmental variables being pulled from?
[01:14] <koudelka> damaltor_, yes, i am happy with it, it's excellent for a system you want to use for a while
[01:14] <Simonf1> ﻿mfe: no, it's sepeate. I have link to it on my top bar
[01:14] <Pelo> Edualc1, did you select the printer model in the cups printer manager ?
[01:14] <richard____> ldz420, /etc/profile.d/
[01:14] <mfe> Simonf1 separate where?
[01:14] <microwaver> Pelo, is there  way to convert a zip file to tar.gz?
[01:14] <Edualc1> Pelo: NO...
[01:14] <microwaver> IndyGunFreak, thx
[01:15] <damaltor_> koudelka: well, i am using this kde system now for years without any bigger problems. i do really like kde though.
[01:15]  * Prez00 is installing hardy on a vm... before upgrading the real thing...
[01:15] <mfe> Simonf1 can't you simply end a task thru sys monitor?
[01:15] <Pelo> microwaver, it's been repacked , just extract it once and use the tar.gz inside
[01:15] <koudelka> damaltor_, all the network tools and things are easily used with gnome and they just look simple and does the job
[01:15] <jrib> Kevin`: see: http://communities.vmware.com/message/399695
[01:15] <Simonf1> ﻿mfe: I'm not sure, seems to be a separate app. I press the icon, and an a box comes up saying click on what you want to quit
[01:15] <Pelo> Edualc1, ok ,  goto menu > system> admin> printer,  and add it
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> microwaver: i guess you could extract the contents of the tar file, then zip them if thats what you want to do.
[01:15] <mfe> Simonf1 how do i get one?
[01:15] <koudelka> damaltor_, is it a system for you or your girlfriend?
[01:16] <Xavier_> i just tried installing ubuntu using WUBI, but for some reason it still has the install icon on my Ubuntu desktop, and i don't have any options for restricted drivers
[01:16] <ldz420> ﻿richard____ i checked and I am not seeing any files in there
[01:16] <mooseman089> hey
[01:16] <Simonf1> right click on a panel, click add to pannel
[01:16] <mooseman089> would anything bad happen if i share the same folder with samba and nfs?
[01:16]  * Pelo takes away IndyGunFreak helper priviledges  just sit on the side line add keep silent 
[01:16] <Pelo> ;-)
[01:16] <led> yeah only some times the force quit works  when i can click the x to close but i mean when it freezes as in nothing works
[01:16] <retalin> if i am wanting to create a script that runs daily (apt-get update, apt-get upgrade) how would i take care of the yes or no options in upgrade ?
[01:16] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol, it would work
[01:16] <Simonf1> ﻿mfe: it's called force quit
[01:16] <richard____> ldz420, can you read shell scripts?
[01:16] <mfe> Simonf1 sweet! thanks
[01:16] <jmei> my root fs has gone 49687 days without being checked. Everytime i reboot
[01:16] <Pelo> zelrikriando, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[01:16] <koudelka> damaltor_, if you are sharing a computer you know you can have both kde and gnome installed. so you can just change to kde when you login
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: is there a reason it wouldn't work like that?
[01:17] <jrib> Kevin`: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217650 has a suggestion as well
[01:17] <Konam> can someone tell me how do I get rid of the 'sign' option in the Nautilus contextual menu? I checked gconf and I got nothing.
[01:17] <frankyd> sry that i got to ask this bus fdisk -p should me my partition table, am i wrong ?
[01:17] <zelrikriando> Pelo: the problem was my screen spec's
[01:17] <jmei> fdisk -l
[01:17] <alexbobp> ﻿I upgraded my kubuntu, and after I replaced my new blank home directory with a symlink to my old one, sound broke.  How can I fix it?
[01:17] <frankyd> thx
[01:17] <ibleed> retalin, i think if you want to automate a task you'd use a cron job.  i'm not too familiar with them though
[01:17] <damaltor_> koudelka: well, thats the same in kde. would you make a screenshot of your actual desktop design? all the online screenshots are in this baaaad lookin brown tone... i use kde for myself for years, having xfce on subnotebook and debian console on server. my girlfriend saw me playin around with compiz, and had a virus just again, and that was the second in wich she wanted to learn mor about linux... =) i do not have any windows systems ...
[01:17] <damaltor_> ... installed here. my gf is now using XP
[01:17] <mfe> Simonf1 firestarter says i was attacked by youtube - should i be concerned?
[01:17] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, the thems need to be in tar.gz format,  the one he downloaded just got repacked in side a  zip to inlcude extras like instrucons or preview
[01:17] <tarkus> whats the name of the default archive manager for ubuntu/gnome ??
[01:17] <tarkus> please...
[01:18] <Simonf1> ﻿mfe: WTF???
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: oh i thought he was asking like to store them in a zip file..
[01:18] <terrestre> what do you think its better to replace kde katapult, gnome-do? or just katapult?
[01:18] <shadowblade> anyone?
[01:18] <Pelo> zelrikriando, well yeah , that 's what we were trying to fix ,
[01:18] <mfe> Simonf1 the attack was reported on the events tab
[01:18] <jrib> Kevin`: ok, last link for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772757 :)
[01:18] <tarkus> fuck
[01:18] <Simonf1> mfe: what is ﻿firestarter?
[01:18] <retalin> ibleed: i have, i have created a script that and copied in to the cron dir but i am not to sure on how to overcome the y/n option on upgrade, i know its going to sit there asking for it, thanks anyway :)
[01:18] <Xavier_> i just tried installing ubuntu 8.04 using WUBI, but for some reason it still has the install icon on my Ubuntu desktop, and i don't have any options for restricted drivers - anyone know if this is normal?
[01:18] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, see I didn't take away your helper status for nothing,   now sit back and learn to read
[01:18] <mfe> Simonf1 it freaked out my icon
[01:18] <damaltor_> mfe: if it was a single warning, you might ignore it. i dont think its critical, it was recognized and thats it.
[01:18] <Simonf1> lol
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: :)
[01:18] <Simonf1> ﻿mfe: it's fine
[01:19] <koudelka> damaltor_, ok sure, but i have it very simple because i like it that way and i don't really it fancy :P
[01:19] <mfe> damaltor recognized?
[01:19] <ibleed> retalin, sorry about that.  i dont know either if its a bash script you could ask in #bash
[01:19] <retalin> ibleed: thanks :)
[01:19] <Kevin`> jrib: thanks, removing usr/lib/vmware-server-console/lib/libgcc_s.so.1/libgcc_s.so.1 made it work
[01:19] <mfe> damaltor you mean they know my ip address?
[01:19] <microwaver> weir thing. I can't seem to download it as a tar.gz, only as zip.
[01:19] <microwaver> weird*
[01:19] <damaltor_> mfe: the attack was recognized by your system, so it will not have made any damage.
[01:19] <richard____> mfe, firewalls like to scare you to make it look like they're doing something important
[01:19] <richard____> ^ some
[01:20] <mfe> damaltor_ thanks
[01:20] <Pelo> microwaver, the person who made the theme  put the tar.gz inside a zip  just unzip it
[01:20] <damaltor_> mfe: if they didnt know your ip adress before, they wouldnt have a chance to attack you... that is not the real problem =)
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> Hi
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> i'm new to xubuntu !
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> yea....
[01:20] <Pelo> Kaemon12433, wrong channel  try #xubuntu
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> new
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> oh.
[01:20] <Kaemon12433> sry
[01:20] <FloodBot1> Kaemon12433: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <Fishscene> Kaemon12433, Congratulations
[01:20] <Simonf1> ﻿Fishscene: lol
[01:20] <mfe> damaltor_ i'm using nonfree flash - could that explain it?
[01:21] <Xavier_> i just tried installing ubuntu 8.04 using WUBI, but for some reason it still has the install icon on my Ubuntu desktop, and i don't have any options for restricted drivers - anyone know if this is normal?  also the login i chose for Ubuntu in windows did not work, i have no password protection for ubuntu
[01:21] <Pelo> Kaemon12433, it's just that they know where the x stuff is,  we jsut know the g stuff
[01:21] <Kaemon12433> Oh
[01:21] <zappitelli16> Hey does anyone know how to adjust the brightness of the screen?
[01:21] <Kaemon12433> how do i connect to xubuntu server
[01:21] <zionpsyfer> Xavier_:  You may have booted from the CD again?
[01:21] <mtgeekman> having a dual boot problem after installing 8.04, XP does not boot.  select it in the GRUB menu and it goes to the "Starting Up...."  and does nothing after words.  checked menu.lst and it looks correct.  used an xp cd to run chkdsk on the partition just because(didn't help any...)
[01:21] <microwaver> Pelo, no tar.gz inside. Only . cgwdtheme files
[01:21] <Pelo> Xavier_, did you boot the live cd by anychance ?
[01:21] <ldz420> ﻿richard____ I am beginning to learn. but when I look into these files /etc/profile ~/.profile not really finding anything.  The only thing I see is the $PATH variable being set
[01:21] <richard____> Konam, you would have to somehow disable Seahorse's integration with Nautilus
[01:21] <alpharesearch> I need to change the mbr with grub, how to do this without going through the setup?
[01:21] <Kaemon12433> hey how do i connect to xubuntu server
[01:21] <jrib> Kaemon12433: just type the following and press enter: /join #xubuntu
[01:21] <iNutshell> Kaemon12433, try /join #xubuntu
[01:21] <Xavier_> zionsyfer: the disc is not in the drive, but Wubi acted like all it was doing was it was putting an Image on my windows partition
[01:21] <Kaemon12433> k
[01:21] <damaltor_> mfe: no, not really. just ignore it. if there are lots of warnings, someone really tries to attack you. that single warning could just have been some ip scanner or something. if you want to be sure, disconnect and reconnect from the internet.
[01:21] <crdlb> microwaver: don't even bother with that
[01:21] <Pelo> microwaver,  go back to the page for that theme on gnome-look and read the description, what kind of a theme is it ?
[01:21] <koudelka> damaltor_, check pm, if i was able to send you that
[01:22] <zappitelli16> Is there anyway to adjust screen brightness through gutsy?
[01:22] <Pelo> crdlb, what kind of theme is that ?
[01:22] <crdlb> microwaver: ignore the "compiz themes" section on gnome-look; it should have been deleted a long time ago
[01:22] <Xavier_> isn't that kind of pointless seeing as how the live image won't save settings or anything?
[01:22] <zelrikriando> Pelo: http://www.bestofmicro.com/actualite/17633-asus-u5f.html no wonder I cant get 1280x1024
[01:22] <microwaver> Compiz theme
[01:22] <mfe> damaltor_ thanks again
[01:22] <crdlb> Pelo: CGWD was the predecessor to emerald
[01:22] <damaltor_> koudelka: i am not logged in... dont think that worked.
[01:22] <damaltor_> mfe: no problem
[01:22] <microwaver> crdlb, ah right.
[01:22] <Pelo> zappitelli16, on a laptop yes,  right click a pannel, and select add to pannel,  there is a brigthness applet in there
[01:22] <microwaver> Pelo, compiz it was.
[01:22] <wfstargazer> Any solution for Busybox (initramfs) issue - not booting?
[01:22] <alpharesearch> I have two HDs, ubuntu is installed on the SCSI device - this can not be selected in the biso boot menu only in the F12 menu
[01:22] <Pelo> zelrikriando, I don'T realy have time to read that
[01:23] <Dilemma>  I upgraded to HH....and xmms is gone from my apps list  I do sudo apt to reinstall and it says there is no candidate ..
[01:23] <Pelo> microwaver, ask in #compiz
[01:23] <mfe> i love my ubuntu
[01:23] <koudelka> damaltor_, ok http://bandwidth.se/imgs/20/0/screenshot2.png there then
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> alphakamp: you need to put grub on your master drive, and grub will boot the scisi drive
[01:23] <damaltor_> thx
[01:23] <Pelo> wfstargazer, try the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:23] <zelrikriando> Pelo: just to say that my laptop cant go above 1024
[01:23] <Xavier_> any ideas?
[01:23] <zionpsyfer> Xavier_: Agreed, I've not run Wubi before.  It it supposed to act as a normal install AFAIK.  Just fishing here, but have you rebooted after the install without the cd?
[01:23] <Pelo> zelrikriando, ahhhh,  you owe me 1.5hrs
[01:23] <wfstargazer> tnx Pelo
[01:24] <richard____> ldz420, a statement (line) beginning with a dot includes the following file in the current script. the variables are probably being set in these other referenced files
[01:24] <koudelka> damaltor_, to get a better feeling on how gnome feels like i recomend you watching this page http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.22/
[01:24] <zelrikriando> Pelo: lol :p
[01:24] <ubnub> How long does it take for the installation to resize a NTFS partition?
[01:24] <koudelka> damaltor_, ubuntu 8.04 uses gnome 2.22
[01:24]  * Pelo will collect , some day 
[01:24] <damaltor_> koudelka: thanks for that. your desktop is REALLY tidy. =)
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> ubnub: depends on how much resizing you're doing
[01:24] <Xavier_> ziopsyfer: like i said, the CD is not in the drive - i installed Ubuntu using Wubi, then i rebooted, i chose Ubuntu in my list, then it showed my desktop and started the partitioner, i canceled the partitioner and now i'm in the live cd
[01:24] <Pelo> ubnub, depends , on how big and if you defraged it a few times before hand
[01:25] <ubnub> I've been waiting about 20 miniutes and it's still on 0%
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> ubnub: i would say there's probaby something wrong
[01:25] <koudelka> damaltor_, on the gnome page you can see how a default gnome system looks like without changing anything
[01:25] <Pelo> ubnub, it's movinng stuff around,  expect at least an hour it's a tricky process
[01:25] <microwaver> Pelo, what kinda themes should I be getting then
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: an hour?
[01:25] <alpharesearch> how to move grub over to the other drive?
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> i resized a 250gig drive o 25 NTFS/225 unallocated, in about 15min..lol
[01:26] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, before the should start worrying
[01:26] <damaltor_> koudelka: ok thanks. ill read that. in 15 mins, the live cd will be ready i think
[01:26] <Edualc1> !HELP
[01:26] <Pelo> alpharesearch, use the supergrub cd
[01:26] <richard____> Dilemma, I think XMMS is dead. use Audacious instead
[01:26] <ubnub> should i kill it?
[01:26] <lexie> hi
[01:26] <Pelo> IndyGunFreak, but your defraged a couple of times first
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> ubnub: no
[01:26] <Fishscene> ROFL@ Ubottu
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: well, it was a blank drive, but i see yur point
[01:26] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my wireless working on my Dell e1505 with Hardy. I've added the driver for my card with the Windows Wireless Drivers gui. Everything tells me its working - the status light for the wireless is green, ubuntu says its working, etc. But it can't find any networks. I've checked the network with another computer and it works fine. iwlist scaning says 'No scan results' for wlan0. Any ideas?
[01:26] <Xavier_> any ideas?
[01:26] <cgillogly> in gutsy i added ssh-add to my session to be prompted for my ssh key passphrase at login so i can have passwordless logins to my servers, however if i do this in hardy, it still prompts me when i go to login to a server...any ideas / help on what changed and what i need to do to get the same thing to happen in hardy?
[01:26] <ibleed> ubnub, thats up to you but any chance that you'll save data will be lost if you abort.  hope you backed up
[01:27] <osmosis> anyone know how to setup a static ip on a vm in virtualbox ?
[01:27] <arkansas> I tryed to upgrad to 8.04. When I try to use "update manager" I get the error "not all updates can be installed"? Help me !!!
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> ubnub: can you look at the details, and see if its making any progress?
[01:27] <koudelka> damaltor_,  you should look around for gnome pictures. because some people seem to make beautiful themes for it. i like this http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3902/scrotlu3.jpg
[01:27] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: what wireless card?
[01:27] <Edualc1> Pelo: It's not my printer that I'm having problems with, it's my scanner.  It's an HP ScanJet 5300C
[01:27] <jeezmos> resizing a window is always difficult for me ... it seems like I have to get the cursor on a 1x1 sized pixel to get the resize cursor.  is there any way to increase it to something crazy like 4x4?
[01:27] <richard____> alpharesearch, you have to install GRUB to the other device using grub-install
[01:27] <shadowblade> Simonfl: some kind of broadcom
[01:27] <Simonf1> ah
[01:27] <richard____> Edualc1, are you using the latest version of Ubuntu?
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> richard____: i've already told him that twice, i don't think he wants that answer
[01:28] <Xavier_> ziopsyfer: did you get my response?
[01:28] <richard____> IndyGunFreak, oh…
[01:28] <Edualc1> Richard: Yes...8
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> we should wave our wand over his PC and make it work
[01:28] <Pelo> Edualc1, ic,  goto menu > system > prefs > removable media and hardware ( or somesimilar wording),  3rd tab I thnk , make sure the detect scanner box is set , then turn the scanner on ,see what happens
[01:28] <NateF> Pelo: i also found a maybe causeing proablems connection to my hard drive, i fixed it and am restarting now, im installing now, ill tell you what happens in a little
[01:28] <lexie> hi people
[01:28] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: a huge nubmer of people have been having the same problem, im waiting for sombody name bazhang who has gotten it to work to get here. I have the same poblem. SIt tight
[01:28] <mosibfu> arkansas, there seem to be 3 faulty packages in the updater here, wich could cause that error. it'll be fixed soon
[01:28] <arkansas> "run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible"?
[01:28] <damaltor_> koudelka: that really looks nice. is some way, gnome just looks like xfce wich im pretty used to
[01:28] <zionpsyfer> Xavier_:  If you are at the livecd desktop or saw the partitioner, then you may not have finished with wubi.  Wubi is able to install the files on the windows partition.
[01:28] <Bodsda> Hey guys. Whenever a program uses the internet my cpu spikes to 40%-60%-100% -- ive run top while an internet page is loading youtube and i see mozilla causing it however if i do anything in apt this also causes the spikes so im finding it difficult to determine what is causing it. I used to run Gutsy which was fine except no wifi i was wired in, then i ran Hardy Beta 5 which was brilliant, wifi and no lag, then when i upgra
[01:28] <Bodsda> ded this started happening, so i did a clean install of Hardy and am still having problems. Im using a belkin F5D7050B and a BTHomeHub-5C71
[01:28] <damaltor_> koudelka: or better, xfce looks like gnome..
[01:28] <Pelo> NateF, nice going
[01:29] <idontbelieveit> anyone hera knows about driveimage xml (windows software)
[01:29] <Edualc1> ﻿richard____:yes, I'm using version 8. something
[01:29] <mosibfu> arkansas, that would be the proper thing to do yea :)
[01:29] <shadowblade> Simonfl: I think he tried to help me last night, but I lost the second two links he gave me :(
[01:29] <koudelka> damaltor_, yeah, it's both gtk :P
[01:29] <Xavier_> zionpsyfer: yeah it asked me if i wanted to reboot now or later, so i said now
[01:29] <Hammer89> lmao... I just did a gutsy to feisty upgrade via SSH on my iPod
[01:29] <NateF> Pelo: yea i use to build computers for my buddie, and found my hard drive was hooked up wrong, so hopefully this works
[01:29] <Xavier_> and here i am at the live cd :(
[01:29] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: lol, darn. That could have helped me. Its not in your history?
[01:29] <Pelo> Bodsda, flash is a cpu hog in windows as well,  and firefox will often  use 40% cpu on it's own it' s  normal,  annoying but normal
[01:29] <Hoenikker> i have a Brother MFC-685CW wireless printer and it doesn't work in 8.04, reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4831496 i don't really get what to do
[01:29]  * Xavier_ sighs
[01:29] <arooni________aa> what is a simple & easy to use tftp server for ubuntu?
[01:30] <Xavier_> i can't install ubuntu the normal way, can't use wubi, i can't i just can't have ubuntu
[01:30] <shadowblade> Simonfl: I dont think this client logs automatically
[01:30] <Edualc1> ﻿richard____:everytime I press the scan button in sane, the system shuts down and re-starts
[01:30] <Bodsda> Pelo, read on -- apt causes it --normal pages cause it -- ubuntu docs cause it etc
[01:30] <Pelo> Xavier_, why can'T use install ubuntu the normal way ?
[01:30] <drivetrax> The requested page was not found in the document /usr/share/gnome/help/user-guide/C/user-guide.xml.
[01:30] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: oh, so you never visited it.
[01:30] <bazhang> Simonf1: got what to work?
[01:30] <zionpsyfer> Xavier_: Does ubuntu show up in the add/remove programs applet in windows?
[01:30] <drivetrax> 7.10 Gutsy
[01:30] <arkansas> mosibfu: I have done that twice. first time it installed ~300 and second ~200. Nothing changed?
[01:30] <Xavier_> it gribes about my drives  pelo
[01:30] <Xavier_> *gripes
[01:30] <Simonf1> ﻿ bazhang: yay, been waiting for you. Wirelss broadcom card
[01:31] <Xavier_> i have sata and the other kind
[01:31] <Bodsda> ide
[01:31] <Xavier_> right
[01:31] <Pelo> Bodsda, my mistake does it settle down after the app is opened or does it stay up ?
[01:31] <damaltor_> koudelka: the thing with gtk apps in kde, is the same with kde apps in gnome. am i right with that=
[01:31] <Pelo> Xavier_, have you tried the alternate install cd ?
[01:31] <arkansas> mosibfu: I have done that twice. first time it installed ~300 and second ~200. Nothing changed?
[01:31] <drivetrax> hd1 sd1
[01:31] <NateF> Pelo: ok its working for now, now, my computer isnt hooked up to the internet yet, should i connect it to config my DHCP network?
[01:31] <Xavier_> it comes up with a wierd error saying something about 1204 bytes something or other and won't even start the partitioner
[01:31] <Bodsda> Pelo, no -- it settles when the app stops doing stuff -- download finished, youtube finished buffering vid - page fully loaded
[01:32] <Pelo> Xavier_,  I hve both as well and I've never had a problem ,  try this,  unplug the hdd you wonT' be installing to ,and see if  it is less fussy
[01:32] <Bodsda> Pelo, but the beta and gutsy did not do this
[01:32] <IntangibleLiquid> what should I do after enabling UFW?
[01:32] <richard____> Edualc1, eek. are there any insightful entries in your system logs related to this problem? (choose ‘system’, ‘administration’, ‘system logs’ to view your system logs)
[01:32] <Pelo> NateF, let it finish the install,
[01:32] <jerbear> i have a launcher that has its icon specified as a relative path... where is the default location that icons are looked for?
[01:32] <Simonf1> bazhang, sorry about that
[01:32] <Xavier_> eh thanks for the advice, but i don't have time to spend troubleshooting stuff
[01:32] <NateF> ok
[01:32] <anoble> 8.04 is taking over 2 houts to install
[01:32] <Manko> I want to get rid of the 'sign' option in the contextual menu (right click on any file)
[01:32] <Xavier_> i just want it to work >.<
[01:32] <Simonf1> bazhang: im back
[01:32] <anoble> and its only at 43%
[01:32] <anoble> 44*
[01:32] <Pelo> Bodsda, I don'T hve an answer for you then
[01:32] <Manko> someone has an idea?
[01:32] <Edualc1> !Help:  Why wouldn't my scanner work in Ubuntu?  I use xsane image scanner.  I press the scan button and Ubuntu shuts down and restarts
[01:32] <Bodsda> Pelo, oh well,. thanks for trying
[01:32] <mosibfu> arkansas, the error will still be there untill they fix it on the repository, and some updates go in steps
[01:32] <Pelo> !enter | Manko
[01:33] <IndyGunFreak> anoble: are you downloading the upgrade?
[01:33] <Simonf1> bazhang: did you get yours to work?
[01:33] <NateF> Pelo: O MY GOD!!! ITS WORKING, now what do i wana pick for partitioning?
[01:33] <Bodsda> bazhang, hey dude its bod_ -- dont suppose you have time to help a friend in need do you?
[01:33] <Xavier_> this is exactly why linux is still 5 year aways from going mainstream, something is always fubard heeh
[01:33] <Xavier_> tc
[01:33] <bazhang> Simonf1: I can provide some links and possible workarounds in bug reports--not sure where you heard I had a broadcom card though
[01:33] <arkansas> mosibfu: Thanks
[01:33] <shadowblade> bazhang: I'm also trying to get my broadcom wireless working
[01:33] <bazhang> Bodsda: yeah what's up
[01:33] <Pelo> NateF, if you will be using the whole  just use guide and let it pick it stuff
[01:33] <Manko> I want to get rid of the 'sign' option in the contextual menu (right click on any file). I checked gconf and I got nothing. someone has an idea?
[01:33] <Simonf1> ﻿bazhang: john_s or something
[01:33] <NateF> Pelo: ok
[01:34] <Pelo> Manko, check the gnome forum
[01:34] <Bodsda> bazhang, cpu spikes -- if you have some spare time plz read ;~) -- http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=447943480d2082e131ca107f94e86053&p=4837204#post4837204
[01:34] <koudelka> damaltor_, yes you are right with that. but i personally i know more gtk apps so for me it's not a problem in gnome as i never have to use a kde app
[01:34] <Simonf1> ﻿bazhang: those would be great though
[01:34] <Bodsda> bazhang, the spikes cause the system to become unusable untill they settle
[01:34] <NateF> Pelo: should i let ubuntu change my partitioning tables, keep in mind, i have no data on it i need or use
[01:34] <koudelka> damaltor_, but if i want to use one, i think kde apps looks better in gnome then gnome in kde
[01:34] <damaltor_> koudelka: ok thanks so far. i think ill mess around a bit with the gnome live cd now.
[01:35] <arkansas> mosibfu: can I just go back to 7.10
[01:35] <MarcN> f-spot is no longer writing metadata to the jpg since upgrading to hardy.  Any F-SPOT users?
[01:35] <Manko> Pelo I'm asking here 'cause this was introduce on Hardy and I see little to no reason why that option is there, if most new users give a crap about that
[01:35] <Edualc1> ﻿richard____: I've gone to my log WHAT IN THE WROLD should I look for. lol  I'm lost
[01:35] <bazhang> just a sec Simonf1
[01:35] <Bodsda> arkansas, yes but there is no downgrader -- has to be a clean install iirc
[01:35] <Pelo> NateF, just let it do everything,  if it is a blanck hdd you have nothing to loose ,  and since you appear new in linux,  you'Re better off letting it do it's job and then learn how things work before you start messing with partitionning stuff on your own
[01:35] <ldz420> ﻿richard____  well I am still unable to find what I am looking for  no worries but thx for informing me about the dot being used to include files
[01:35] <koudelka> damaltor_, do so :P you can go to www.gnome-look.org if you want themes or just look at pictures
[01:35] <arooni________aa> please someone tell me how to get a tftp server up and running on ubuntu?
[01:35] <aidencade> bbl
[01:36] <BubbleTea> Can someone help me
[01:36] <NateF> Pelo: ok, thnx, i just wana do this right the first time :)
[01:36] <damaltor_> koudelka: ok, great. bye!
[01:36] <BubbleTea> Can someone help me on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/224457
[01:36] <BubbleTea> I have the same problem
[01:36] <alpharesearch> richard____, grub is installed on the other hard drive, but if I boot I get the error 15 file not found
[01:36] <koudelka> damaltor_, good luck! i head to bed now 2.30 am :P
[01:36] <bazhang> http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/ Simonf1 here is one
[01:36] <fluidd> Quick question; I have /home mounted from a second partition on my internal harddrive.  Would it possible to mount my external harddrive under something like, /home/tom/library ?
[01:36] <DrX> on a RAID 5 volume that contains both NTFS and ext3 partitions, does the order matter?
[01:36] <Bodsda> fluidd, i believe so
[01:36] <damaltor_> koudelka: ...where are you from? 2.30 here in Jena, germany, too
[01:36] <Pelo> Manko, chck in synaptic,   do s search for signature   see what packages are related to it that you can remove safely,  I'm guessing ifyou remve the package taht handls that  the entry will go away
[01:36] <Simonf1> ﻿bazhang: thanks
[01:37] <koudelka> damaltor_, i'm in sweden
[01:37] <andreskru> its normal that ubuntu 8.04 64 bit take 500 mb ram?
[01:37] <fluidd> Ok, thanks bodsda.. I'll give it a try.  Any idea how to fstab a USB drive?
[01:37] <alpharesearch> richard____, any key to continu and I see 3 normla ubuntu selections
[01:37] <anoble> MEhhhhh, its only gone 3 pct in like 5min
[01:37] <ibleed> NateF, you want help partitioning your drive for the first time ?  if you can make swap 2x your ram, 15GB for / and the rest on /home you should be ok.  you can reinstall and tell it not to format /home in the future and you'll have all your data.  / is where the system stuff goes and swap is just swap space
[01:37] <Bodsda> fluidd, 1 sec il et link
[01:37] <Pelo> NateF, trust the *buntu ,  the *buntu will do you right
[01:37] <fluxy> I am trying to install a program from source, but got this error: [make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.] Can anyone please help me?
[01:37] <Judeglass> im trying to get my wireless card to function in Hardy Heron. the card is a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[01:37] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/191726 Simonf1 and here seems to be one relevant link
[01:37] <Pelo> !wifi | Judeglass
[01:37] <damaltor_> andreskru: yes. linux uses ram in another way then windows. having it filled is normal state.
[01:37] <MarcN> fluidd: Do this: sudo vol_id /dev/where-usb-is      and get the UUID, then use that in /etc/fstab
[01:37] <Pelo> ok later folks
[01:37] <BubbleTea> Can someone help me on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/224457?
[01:37] <richard____> fluxy, read the instructions!
[01:37] <mosibfu> fluxy, most source installs have a FM with exact instructions
[01:37] <LjL> Official Ubuntu Support Channel | Important: type « /msg ubot5 etiquette » | Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Upgrade from Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades | Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[01:38] <bazhang> Bodsda: you tried the rt kernel? how many extenstion you got in ff? this is hardy right?
[01:38] <Judeglass> Pelo: i have been there but this one is weirder...
[01:38] <hamled> I was in the middle of of upgrading to 8.04 (at the stage where I was downloading package updates) and I lost my network connection and it got cancelled. Now the update-manager no longer gives me any upgrade options (and says there aren't any packages to update). Also, when I run it from the command line it says 'current dist not found in meta-release file'
[01:38] <Bodsda> fluidd, just change a few things to matchur usb file type etc -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab?highlight=(fstab)
[01:38] <Judeglass> i can see all of the APs around me
[01:38] <jerbear> i have a launcher that has its icon specified as a relative path... where is the default location that icons are looked for?
[01:38] <richard____> Edualc1, choose ‘view’, ‘filter’, then enter terms such as ‘sane’, ‘scan’, and so on
[01:38] <Judeglass> but i can't connect to any of them
[01:38] <andreskru> damaltor_,  i used gutsy 32 bit and never take more than 300 mb
[01:38] <bazhang> LjL: sorry to log off yesterday-->was installing ubuntu-desktop
[01:38] <koudelka> andreskru, vista now does the same, cashing up all ram to improve performance. linux has been doing this for quite some time
[01:38] <Bodsda> bazhang, no i havent tried because he said it was for lockups -- extensions?what do you mean partitions? -- yes this is hardy
[01:39] <fluxy> I think it goes simply ./configure, make and make install. but make doesn't work
[01:39] <damaltor_> andreskru: hmm maybe then the 32bit version needs just less ram... but i dont think thats a problem. work with it a time and see if it is slower.
[01:39] <Bodsda> fluxy, have u done    sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[01:39] <bazhang> Bodsda: no I mean how many extensions in FF? like rss feeds, adblock plus etc.
[01:39] <fluxy> yes
[01:39] <IndyGunFreak> fluxy: probably because configure is coming back w/ errors, what are you trying to compile?
[01:39] <andreskru> koudelka,  i had use gusty 32 bit and doesnt take that amount of memory
[01:39] <NateF> Pelo: you are the man!!, ive been trying to install ubuntu on my computer for 2 months, and you finally made it work
[01:39] <IntangibleLiquid> help, the totem plugin in FF3 does not work with WMP streaming audio :(
[01:40] <Edualc1> I give UP
[01:40] <richard____> this channel is insane 0 _ 0
[01:40] <richard____> Edualc1, choose ‘view’, ‘filter’, then enter terms such as ‘sane’, ‘scan’, and so on
[01:40] <Edualc1> there seems to be no solution to my problem
[01:40] <IntangibleLiquid> the totem box appears but when I click on the play button the whole box just goes grey
[01:40] <Scientus> would it be possibel to do a duel setup where two partitions are mounted as a merge, with generally the same directory structure, and putting files on wither would show up on the main tree?
[01:40] <adamsad1> Are iptables set up in Hardy to be secure, or are they open?
[01:40] <koudelka> andreskru, you can open your system monitor to see if there's a particular program taking much ram
[01:40] <fluxy> IndyGunFreak: ./configure is ok. It's an applet for the xfce panel
[01:40] <Bodsda> bazhang, oh erm -- its not a FF issue because apt lags aswell but i have 1 - ubuntu firefox modifications 0.5
[01:40] <Scientus> is merge mounting possible
[01:40] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: this is with compiz on?
[01:40] <koudelka> andreskru, sort by memory in the processes tab
[01:40] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: yes
[01:41] <Bodsda> fluxy, can u pastebinthe errors for   make
[01:41] <bazhang> Bodsda: that is odd; let me check something
[01:41] <hamled> I was in the middle of of upgrading to 8.04 (at the stage where I was downloading package updates) and I lost my network connection and it got cancelled. Now the update-manager no longer gives me any upgrade options (and says there aren't any packages to update). Also, when I run it from the command line it says 'current dist not found in meta-release file.' How would I go about restarting the upgrade process?
[01:41] <Bodsda> bazhang, ok, cheers dude
[01:41] <Daisuke-Ido> hey, does anyone know if RT73 support has improved in hardy?
[01:41] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: what happens with compiz off? (ie disabled)
[01:41] <Simonf1> bazhang: I got so close to the end of the first link, I got to ../../b43-fwcutter-011/b43-fwcutter -w “$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR” wl_apsta.o and it did not work
[01:41] <Edualc1> ﻿richard____:no hope, still nothing
[01:41] <NateF> hay guys, if im going to host game servers, i dont need any security with ubuntu right??
[01:41] <koudelka> andreskru, many tabs open in firefox can take a lot of memory
[01:41] <fluxy> Bodsda: The only error and output is-> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:41] <Bodsda> hamled, do you et the update choice if you run     sudo update-manager -d   ??
[01:42] <andreskru> koudelka, im sendind you a screenshot
[01:42] <Bodsda> fluxy, are you in the correct directory?? is there a makefile ?
[01:42] <crispy--> I have a problem with my sound. Im using spdif, but the sound gets distorted no matter what i set the volume to. Also, nothing happens when i set different output devices in gnome-sound-properties (or w/e that program is called)
[01:42] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: I haven't tried that yet. Testing now
[01:42] <fractal420> Hello, im trying to change my main menu ubuntu icon.. I know it has something to do with gconf-editor but im not sure on the exact steps.. can anyone help?
[01:42] <fluxy> Bodsda: Yes to both
[01:42] <richard____> NateF, did you install Ubuntu Server?
[01:42] <koudelka> andreskru, i'm not registered, you have to send me a link here to the screenshot
[01:42] <hamled> Bodsda, yes, thank you!
[01:42] <bluevapour_> Hey guys anyone here good with IRQ's
[01:42] <Bodsda> fluxy, try ./makefile
[01:42] <Scientus> would it be possibel to do a duel setup where two partitions are mounted as a merge, with generally the same directory structure, and putting files on wither would show up on the main tree?
[01:43] <Bodsda> hamled, your welcome
[01:43] <NateF> richard___: no the desktop version, im going to get server when i know more about linux
[01:43] <Dilemma>  I upgraded to hardy and xmms is gone .when I sudo apt-get install . it tells me there >>E: Package xmms has no installation candidate >> is this a repository issue?
[01:43] <Bodsda> fluxy, wait er -- no ./make
[01:43] <andreskru> koudelka, mmm i dont have that
[01:43] <Scientus> should i post my q on the forums if noone here awnsers?
[01:43] <Bodsda> hamled, no aain    sudo make
[01:43] <bazhang> Scientus: overlapping partitions? not clear what you mean here
[01:43] <Bodsda> again*
[01:43] <bluevapour_> Anyone?
[01:43] <Fishscene> bluevapour_, that's pretty low-level, what isn't functioning correctly that you need to go that deep?
[01:43] <IntangibleLiquid>  bazhang: the same thing happens. It just goes gray
[01:44] <fluxy> Bodsda: Actually there are Makefile.am and Makefile.in
[01:44] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: have you tried different players?
[01:44] <bluevapour_> Fishscene, basically, i was having a problem with my net going down after going afk, so i reinstalled from scratch etc, but i have noticed something
[01:44] <fractal420> ﻿Hello, im trying to change my main menu ubuntu icon.. I know it has something to do with gconf-editor but im not sure on the exact steps.. can anyone help?
[01:44] <ibleed> Dilemma, you should try audacious i think its called. xmms is no longer active or included in hardy
[01:44] <o0Chris0o> I am running compiz system manager, trying to disable the effect for the titlebars on windows. It disapeaars when it loses focus
[01:44] <Bodsda> fluxy, read the README file?
[01:44] <bluevapour_> When i install from scratch, interupts are collected on core 1 for ethernet, but when i install nvidia and get both monitors working, eth0 collects interupts on core2
[01:44] <o0Chris0o> anyone know how to diable that
[01:44] <koudelka> andreskru, you can easily upload it to a site like http://bayimg.com/
[01:44] <bluevapour_> Is that ok, or is that a bug?
[01:44] <Bodsda> o0Chris0o, find the appropriate plugin in ccsm then disable it
[01:45] <osmosis> anyone use vbox to put the vm on the local network rather then the NAT ?
[01:45] <koudelka> andreskru, and then post the link to it here
[01:45] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: I tried installing Mplayer and VLC, their pluggins appeared in the addons box. I then disabled the totem pluggins. But things went worses. It was like nothhing was there when I entered  an online music site.
[01:45] <o0Chris0o> Bodsda, thats the problem, I am going through them all, I can't seem to find it
[01:45] <lilg111111> anybody know a good music editor that adjust pitch and speed
[01:45] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: and you have all the codecs installed? is this for all vid files or just the one
[01:45] <Fishscene> bluevapour_, I don't know... I wouldn't think it would be a problem.
[01:45] <seancron> fractal420: try here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3825
[01:45] <Bodsda> o0Chris0o, ok explain what this feature is exactly
[01:45] <richard____> NateF, then you should read about making it more secure
[01:45] <koudelka> osmosis, i'm not even sure vbox has that feature
[01:45] <Scientus> bazhang, basically the use would be for encryption, one encrypted filesystem and one not, so it would be transparent to the os, there would have to be special cases for identical file names, and maybe the directory format wont work,    but basically a file tree that is a merge between two filesystems with the same directory structure, that are both / and that depending on weather u want it...
[01:45] <Scientus> ...encrypted or not u put it on one drive or the other
[01:45] <fluxy> Bodsda: Both the install and readme files list the normal procedure "./configure, make, make install" that's all.
[01:46] <o0Chris0o> well once I installed compiz the windows title bar disappears when it loses focus, I don't want that to happen
[01:46] <NateF> richard____: ok, thanks, everyone here is so helpfull :)
[01:46] <seancron> lilg111111: audacity is pretty popular
[01:46] <bazhang> Scientus: these would be different distros such as ubuntu and suse?
[01:46] <o0Chris0o> Bodsda: ^
[01:46] <bluevapour_> Annyone
[01:46] <cirkit> hi I'm on latest Ubuntu 8.0.4 Hardy ... whenever my computer goes to sleep or I close the lid, I wake it back up (my laptop) and I get no sound any more
[01:46] <bluevapour_> Ok, where can i go to find out information about irq's
[01:46] <bluevapour_> ?
[01:46] <cirkit> is there a fix for this?
[01:46] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: what site let me check
[01:46] <cirkit> I always have to end up restartng the computer ater
[01:46] <osmosis> koudelka: im reading all about it, but can't get it to work.
[01:46] <cirkit> after*
[01:46] <Scientus> no same distro, just allowing you to install something as encrypted if u would like
[01:46] <lilg111111> seancron: i have it but it only has a speed option no pitch
[01:46] <cirkit> this is so annoying
[01:46] <FloodBot1> cirkit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: I'm not sure if I have all the codecs installed. I only remember that I install the restricted extras package. Apart from that, nothing else
[01:47] <Fishscene> cirkit, there are issues with sleep mode and networking/sound
[01:47] <adamsad1> How secure are the iptables by default?
[01:47] <Bodsda> o0Chris0o, i would best take the issue to #compiz-fusion
[01:47] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: what about the win32codecs from www.medibuntu.org
[01:47] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: sorry, it's a vietnamese site. But you can check the player by going to http://mp3.zing.vn/mp3/playlist/play.39739.html
[01:47] <o0Chris0o> Bodsda: thanks
[01:47] <Bodsda> np
[01:47] <koudelka> osmosis, sorry, i haven't used it yet :/
[01:47] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: trying now
[01:48] <Scientus> could you do a bind mount that is recursive and doesnt obscure existing files? bazhang
[01:48] <bluevapour_> Freshscene you know anything about irqs?
[01:48] <seancron> lilg111111: do you need it just for play back or to record?
[01:48] <Simonf1> ﻿ bazhang: it seemed to have worked, I'll tell you for sure when im done restarting.
[01:48] <Fishscene> bluevapour_, a little- but not for an OS such as Ubuntu.
[01:48] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: i assume the restricted extras is enough. If it;s not, then plz help me with what's needed
[01:48] <bazhang> simonf1 best of luck
[01:48] <andreskru> koudelka, http://bayimg.com/PajjFaaBi
[01:48] <Scientus> perhaps that would requre a new folder system...and is not possible
[01:48] <bluevapour_> im talking unix in general
[01:49] <bazhang> hang on IntangibleLiquid trying something
[01:49] <bluevapour_> im just curious why eth0 switches cores when i use 2 monitors
[01:49] <Fishscene> bluevapour_, yea, I have no idea
[01:49] <KRaZy_WaKa> what are my options for firewalls and antivirus running Hardy?
[01:49] <bluevapour_> Know any channels that would?
[01:49] <KRaZy_WaKa> and hello all
[01:49] <koudelka> andreskru, i can't see anything unusual there
[01:49] <Fishscene> bluevapour_, I haven't the slightest clue- sorry =(
[01:50] <jrib> !virus | KRaZy_WaKa
[01:50] <lilg111111> seancron: just for playback im trying to make my own mix cd
[01:50] <bluevapour_> Ok
[01:50] <jrib> !firewall | KRaZy_WaKa
[01:50] <seancron> KRaZy_WaKa: i suggest firestarter for firewalls
[01:50] <Manko> for the record, to get rid of those options we have to delete the seahorse extension in nautilus (I got rid of seahorse completely :P). /usr/lib/nautilus/*/libnautilus-seahorse.so is the generic path
[01:50] <Edualc1> Where would I find and answer to my scanner problem.  I use sane and scanner is HP Scanjet 5300C.  Press the scan button and system shuts down.
[01:50] <sparr__> help?  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d: 274: /sbin/runlevel: not found
[01:50] <KRaZy_WaKa> yeah wasnt too worried about viruses, but better to be safe than sorry :) thanx all
[01:50] <sarthor> Hi, i upgraded distro from gusty to hard, but in my menu.lst there is nothing about hard,  and in startup i only can see the old grub, how can i reinstall my grub??
[01:51] <seancron> lilg111111: take a look at this plugin for xmms http://www.geocities.com/harpin_floh/sndstretch_page.html
[01:51] <aevumdecessus> this is random, but does anyone know a way to forward ports to a different port than 6667, as my school's network has 6667 blocked >_< I'm using Xchat on a fresh Hardy Heron install
[01:51] <ibleed> Edualc1, you'd probably have more luck doing a google search or on ubuntuforums.org i think
[01:51] <Edualc1> ibleed: thanks, I guess I'll have to
[01:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> will definitely grab firestarter then thanx again
[01:51] <viator> anyone know of a good bandwidth monitoring application
[01:51] <viator> ?
[01:52] <koudelka> andreskru, i see you have the system monitor applet on your upper panel. you can change the preferences for that one to show the memory usage and then you can see how much is used by application and how much is cache and you can see if it's reaching your limit
[01:52] <andreskru> koudelka, 500 mb ram!!!!!!!!!
[01:52] <seancron> KRaZy_WaKa: no problem
[01:52] <koudelka> andreskru, how much ram do you have?
[01:52] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: the box goes grey for streaming, but the little green arrow (pointing downwards) works fine
[01:52] <lilg111111> seancron: just what i need but can it save so it can be burned
[01:52] <andreskru> koudelka, 1 gb
[01:52] <ibleed> aevumdecessus, you dont have to use 6667 irc servers often use a range of ports you can connect to something as simple as /server irc.freenode.net 7000 or irc.freenode.net:7000 i dont remember (sorry this is offtopic)
[01:52] <koudelka> andreskru, then you have half left no problem
[01:52] <seancron> lilg111111: o that what i meant by recording
[01:52] <andreskru> koudelka, but before i use 250 whit gutsy
[01:53] <viator> hmmm no tclue huh
[01:53] <koudelka> andreskru, but did you have those programs running then?
[01:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> linux so kicks M$'s butt
[01:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> lol
[01:53] <brombomb> viator: you can search the add remove applications.  Use the Show: All Available applications, then search.  bmon is the the one that comes up
[01:53] <WhoNeedszzz> Hey guys I have a HP pavillion dv6000 with an atheros wifi card and just upgraded to hardy. i got it working in feisty but now it doesn't work. What went wrong?
[01:53] <koudelka> andreskru, i also think application will use more ram if they kernel tells them there is free ram to use
[01:54] <koudelka> andreskru, you shouldn't worry. ram is there to be used if it's not used it's wasted
[01:54] <WhoNeedszzz> what went wrong in the upgrade?
[01:54] <ibleed> WhoNeedszzz, very often a restricted driver is replaced by a kernel module that might not work :(  only thing i can suggest is look in your restricted hardware manager or try ndiswrapper with windows drivers
[01:54] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: does not work for me. It opens other pages some of which are broken.
[01:54] <sarthor> Hi, i upgraded distro from gusty to hard, but in my menu.lst there is nothing about hard,  and in startup i only can see the old grub, how can i reinstall my grub??
[01:55] <richard____> aevumdecessus, most IRC servers offer a range of ports which you can connect on. check the server's message of the day or the network's Web site
[01:55] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: so it doesn't work for you either
[01:55] <Al2O3> does ubuntu have a cli java runtime available by default?
[01:55] <Al2O3> I don't have it installed and running right now to test.
[01:55] <WhoNeedszzz> ibleed: i went through with what i did before and it says everything i was doing has already been done.
[01:55] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my broadcom wireless working on my Dell e1505 laptop. I installed the b43 drivers from linuxwireless.com and now wlan0 doesn't even show up for iwlist scanning. (Previously it would show up, but claim 'No scan results' when I know my network is working). Any ideas?
[01:56] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: I just selected rhythmbox when hitting the green arrow and it streamed fine (instead of firefox) the site itself appears to be very badly coded so it seems the problem is on their end not ubuntu's
[01:56] <koudelka> andreskru, and are you sure it's 500? counting the ram usage i can see on your picture it's more like 300-350mb
[01:56] <arooni> please someone tell me how to get a tftp server up and running on ubuntu?
[01:56] <MiYaRSTiM_> TOP?
[01:56] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: it's supposed to become the best entertainment site over here but that's sad to hear :(
[01:57] <WhoNeedszzz> Why doesn't the restricted driver, "Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards" not work?
[01:57] <koudelka> now time to sleep
[01:57] <eboyjr> How do I make it so that I do not have to enter sudo all the time... like Ubuntu for my grandma ?
[01:57] <seancron> lilg111111: some quick googling seems to show that audacity can adjust pitch and speed
[01:57] <ldlework> Is there anything I need to do before I boot into linux in order to work with Comcast internet?
[01:57] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: btw, that's the download button :)
[01:58] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: well the best way to do it is either use rhythmbox to stream or use the green arrow--> alot of those green arrows lead to empty sites though
[01:58] <ibleed> Idlework, nope, it just works
[01:58] <John_S> shadowblade: If you have a broadcom BCM43xx chip I think you need to download the fwcutter software.
[01:58] <eboyjr> What's new in 8.04? (]I have 7.10 now)
[01:58] <Fritzel> eboyjr, if grandma isn't savy enough to put in a password it's not a good idea to allow her root access
[01:59] <Dimitree> Hello :) Is Ubuntu 8.04 stable yet ? Wll my GMA 3100 work with it now ?
[01:59] <eboyjr> Fritzel, I was kidding about my grandma =p How do I turn off sudo ( or something like that )
[01:59] <seancron> eboyjr: take a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19236
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Dimitree: I don't have a 3100, but I'm told they're just fine.
[01:59] <bazhang> Dimitree: best way to know is to run the livecd; there are still some bugs to work out--this is a laptop? if so what wireless card
[02:00] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: thanks for trying
[02:00] <ManBlue> Hello, I'm new...very very new
[02:00] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: I got it to work, just not in firefox window ;]
[02:00] <ManBlue> Trying to figure out this partition thing
[02:00] <eboyjr> seancron, Thank you for the link!
[02:00] <ibleed> eboyjr, when you get in the habit of not typing sudo it more probably you'll use it when it might mess things up but if your insistant, you can work like super user doing sudo su or is it sudo -i ?  one of the two
[02:00] <Dimitree> bazhang it's not a laptop :) running on DG31PR intel motherboard with integrated GMA 3100 and Dual Core E2200
[02:01] <bazhang> ManBlue: please specify your issues so we can help you better
[02:01] <sarthor> Hi, i upgraded distro from gusty to hard, but in my menu.lst there is nothing about hard,  and in startup i only can see the old grub, how can i reinstall my grub??
[02:01] <Dimitree> I had some terrible trouble to set my screen refresh rate higher then 60 when i tryed the 8.04 a montha go i think
[02:01] <bazhang> Dimitree: mostly intel stuff then? will likely face few worries then
[02:01] <seancron> eboyjr: i'd listen to ibleed though.  do it only if you know what you are doing.  its worth some minor annoyance to avoid a huge system crash
[02:01] <ManBlue> sure, how do I make a small partition to install ubuntu without erasing the whole hard drive
[02:02] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu? It keeps telling me "no root file system is defined"
[02:02] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: it seems to be the only site that doesn't work. Other sites work fine. I've just tested. Think I should fire them some email?
[02:02] <Marfi> ManBlue, use gparted
[02:02] <bazhang> manblue you are in the installer now?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: You need to designate a partition to be "/"
[02:02] <Dimitree> bazhang dang it :) i specificly took all intel parts so i may not have troubles lol .__.
[02:02] <ManBlue> yes, inside installer
[02:02] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: most definitely
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Which partitioning option are you using?
[02:02] <ubuntu> tony how do i register this name
[02:02] <drivetrax> kool.. I just took out FireFox.. and put in seamonkey..
[02:03] <adamsad1> is ssh login open by default?
[02:03] <ManBlue> I have the Live CD inside and the install icon on the desktop
[02:03] <bazhang> ManBlue: you want to resize the vista/xp partition is that right?
[02:03] <eboyjr> seancron, Hmm... why would there be a huge system crash?
[02:03] <ubuntu> tony?
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> !register | ubuntu
[02:03] <ibleed> adamsad1, no its not you can check what services are running in gnome system preferences
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: Yours is already taken though, as you might expect.
[02:03] <ManBlue> yes, resize, but seperate from the space Vista is using
[02:03] <bazhang> haha
[02:04]  * jackal is there a way to change the resolution for tty?????
[02:04] <Dr_willis> jackal,  use the framebuffer, and you can set the console modes
[02:04] <ManBlue> vista already divided into a 100GB and 12 GB drive for some reason
[02:04] <Mattevt> I use an dual monitors (my laptop and an external monitor) at home. How can I get ubuntu to recognize when I'm not using dual monitors.
[02:04] <eboyjr> Hey guys, what's new in 8.04??
[02:04] <ubuntu> tony how do i register
[02:04] <bazhang> manblue you should type first three letters of my nickname (baz) then hit tab and it will highlight my name making it easy for me to follow
[02:04] <Dimitree> bazhang any idea where i can find out the differances betwean Mac OSX and Linux ? o-o trying to figure out if OSX will work better on my pc
[02:04] <diieggo> i need help for install ragnarok using wine or cedega
[02:05] <Mattevt> sorry I worded that poorly
[02:05] <jackal> how do i uhow do i use the framebuffer?
[02:05] <seancron> eboyjr: if you mistype a command you can seriously injure your system
[02:05] <drivetrax> Mattevt,  -- think, Sessions
[02:05] <ManBlue> bazhang
[02:05] <eboyjr> seancron, Okay.
[02:05] <ManBlue> bazhang gottcha
[02:05] <jackal> how do i use framebuffer?
[02:05] <bazhang> Dimitree: no idea about that--sounds difficult to do if you dont buy a mac though
[02:05] <Mattevt> I'm sorry? I'm new to linux, as of yesterday
[02:05] <ubuntu> can someone tell me how to register my name?
[02:05] <adamsad1> ibleed: thanks
[02:06] <DBautell> ubuntu `/msg nickserv help`
[02:06] <drivetrax> ubuntu,  -- too late now, it is taken
[02:06] <bazhang> ManBlue: the resize device will take care of that--just be sure to back up important data (as always) when doing something like this
[02:06] <ibleed> seancron it sure is nice of you to see to it he understands that
[02:06] <jackal> Dr... how do i use the framebuffer?
[02:06] <xpoint> ubuntu, see freenode.net homepage
[02:06] <bazhang> ubuntu read the link given to you
[02:06] <eboyjr> Whats new in Hardy?
[02:07] <[T]an3> my network dropped just after i asked my question... so i did not see if there were any replies... sorry to have to re-ask.
[02:07] <drivetrax> bazhang,  thanks for setting me up with Ubuntu.. it's great.  A great big tweak
[02:07] <ManBlue> bazhang alright
[02:07] <x1250> eboyjr: no one is going to answer that...
[02:07] <[T]an3> when i am running in a single desktop mode my compiz stuff works perfect.
[02:07] <Dr_willis> jackal,  the menu.lst has kernel options to enable various modes for the framebuffer, ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5         The vga= sets the default res. I think the framebuffer may be disabled by default under hardy. Once you have the framebuffer enabled you can use the fbset and other commands to tweak it on the fly
[02:07] <eboyjr> x1250, lol
[02:07] <[T]an3> however when running in dual screen mode it does not.
[02:07] <bazhang> www.fsckin.com has the details (in Easy English) eboyjr
[02:07] <tinin> x1250 you did
[02:07] <[T]an3> any ideas?
[02:07] <[T]an3> i am using aticonfig for my desktop setup
[02:07] <Mattevt> OK, I'll slightly reword it. I need ubuntu to recognize when I'm unplugged from the external monitor. I'm new to Linux as of yesterday so as detailed instructions would be helpful.
[02:07] <x1250> I did repond, but I did not answer his question tinin :P
[02:07] <ubuntu> register ttt
[02:07] <shadowblade> Hello, I'm trying to get my broadcom wireless working on my dell e1505 laptop. I installed the b43 drivers from linuxwireless.com and now its like my wireless card doesn't exist. So I uninstalled those drivers and still nothing. The status light on my laptop is not lit and the fn shortcut for turning it on and off does nothing. Any ideas?
[02:08] <bazhang> ManBlue: if you have any issues we can help you out-->tried to ask more explicit questions if you can though
[02:08] <Fishscene> !broadcom
[02:08] <bazhang> !yay | drivetrax
[02:08] <seancron> ibleed: its a good lesson.  otherwise we're back to the problems we have with windows :P
[02:08] <draeath> Firefox 3 is putting all kinds of crap up on the screen while I type a URL. Looks like suggestions etc. How do I disable that?
[02:08] <drivetrax>  yay /Root
[02:08] <DBautell> that crap's the best
[02:08] <[T]an3> ﻿x1250: was that in response to me?
[02:08] <IntangibleLiquid> draeath: I think its a cool feature
[02:09] <bazhang> ubottu has gained weight (an extra t) ;]
[02:09] <seancron> draeath: i don't know off the top of my head but there is probably something in about:config
[02:09] <drivetrax> fat bot
[02:09] <draeath> IntangibleLiquid: I don't. It's holding my hand and I want it to stop.
[02:09] <draeath> seancron: looking through browser.* right now
[02:09] <egc> are there instructions on determing what the correct DPI (dots per inch) setting is for a particular resolution?
[02:09] <John_S> shadowblade: I think you need to install the fwcutter software if you have a BCM43xx chipset. What do you have?
[02:09] <x1250> eboyjr: this can help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/RC
[02:09] <drivetrax> lol
[02:09] <x1250> [T]an3: nope
[02:09] <eboyjr> Thanks
[02:10] <dorwardv> how do i test my sound capture device using sound preferences
[02:10] <shadowblade> John_S: I tried that after I tried the b43 driver and had no change
[02:10] <shadowblade> John_S: I get the feeling those drivers broke something :(
[02:10] <Mattevt> When I startup my laptop, and I'm not using dual monitors. The resolution is weird and I have to change the resolution, but the desktop still looks off.
[02:10] <tmapj> f
[02:11] <shadowblade> John_S: its a broadcom 4311, by the way
[02:11] <Dimitree> i am doomed to use windows :( /cry /cry /cry
[02:11] <draeath> found it...
[02:11] <ManBlue> bazhang, It will only let create a new partition size as low as 43.1GB
[02:11] <John_S> shadowblade: Did you enable the driver under System > Admin > Restricted Drivers Manager (or Hardware Manager)
[02:11] <bazhang> draeath: where was it
[02:11] <shadowblade> John_S: yes
[02:11] <draeath> browser.urlbar.maxRichResults
[02:11] <[T]an3> anyone know what makes the compiz features not show up after running aticonfig --dtop=horizontal overlay-on=1?
[02:11] <fde> shadowblade: Do you have b43_fwcutter installed alongside b43?
[02:11] <[T]an3> works after doing aticonfig --dtop=single, just not the other
[02:11] <ibleed> Dimitree, there is nothing major that you can't learn easily with ubuntu to get a working system up and running
[02:11] <shadowblade> fde: I don't think I ever did
[02:11] <draeath> bazhang: set that to 0 and it stops. alternatively it looks like you could just decrease the amount of stuff that comes up.
[02:11] <shadowpool> I accidentally ran "sudo m-a -t a-i" without any other arguments.  Does anyone know what this does?  It install a whole bunch of stuff. . .   :-/
[02:11] <draeath> bazhang: it doesn't disable autocomplete from history though, which is also fine
[02:12] <bazhang> ManBlue: that should be more than enough-->you need more than that you can always go back and resize from vista
[02:12] <tmapj> msg nickserv register wdwdwd
[02:12] <fde> shadowblade: It's required, it is the firmware bits for the wireless...
[02:12] <drivetrax> [T]an3,  have you asked in #compiz-fusion?
[02:12] <bazhang> thanks draeath
[02:12] <grayKot> how to configure placement of panels per desktop. i want up & bottom panels on 1st desktop and no panels on 2n d.
[02:12] <shadowblade> John_S: When the device was showing up, it got no results from iwlist scanning, even though I know the network is working
[02:12] <Dimitree> ibleed i use alot of multimedia .___. and its eather not available on ubuntu, or it doesn't work ._.
[02:12] <bazhang> tmapj: better to use a / before the /msg
[02:12] <tmapj> how do i choose a password
[02:12] <DBautell> and pick a better pwd
[02:12] <RequinB4> shadowblade: bcm4206?
[02:12] <draeath> bazhang: set it to -1 and it works like before but puts more on the screen. -1 is probably what yo uwant
[02:13] <bazhang> tmapj: you might want to do that in server window as well
[02:13] <RequinB4> 43
[02:13] <schitzo> Hello
[02:13] <shadowpool> Hi
[02:13] <[T]an3> ﻿drivetrax: thank you, no. I did not know about the channel. Headed there now
[02:13] <John_S> shadowblade: Do what fde said and what I mentioned earlier--install the b43 fwcutter software--that should work.
[02:13] <tmapj> ok how do i choose a pasword???
[02:13] <schitzo> I'll think about it
[02:13] <DBautell> like you just did, tmapj, but start with a /
[02:13] <Mattevt> How can I get Hardy to recognize that I'm not using dual monitors?
[02:13] <bazhang> draeath: oh yeah that is it cheers
[02:13] <draeath> now to make it just stop completely...
[02:13] <DBautell> tmapj, /msg nickserv register pwd
[02:13] <draeath> i dont want ANYTHING popping up while I type
[02:13] <fde> John_S: I didn't see you mention it, sorry... don't want to step on your toes if you're following along  :)
[02:14] <tmapj> it keeps telling me the nickname tmapj is already registered
[02:14] <shadowblade> John_S: thats installed right now
[02:14] <tmapj> it keeps telling me the nickname tmapj is already registered
[02:14] <John_S> fde: No problem. If you have other ideas for him please share. :)
[02:14] <dorwardv> hello can anyone help me, test my microphone using the sound preferences?
[02:14] <bazhang> tmapj: now you need to identify  /msg nickserv identify (your pass here)
[02:14] <drivetrax> tmapj,  /msg nickserv identify (passwordhere)
[02:15] <shadowpool> Does anyone know what "m-a a-i" does?
[02:15] <egc> hardy heron is the most awesomest
[02:15] <John_S> shadowblade: You may have to use ndiswrapper then.
[02:15] <RequinB4> John_S - i can duplicate the problem
[02:15] <bazhang> shadowpool: compiles something
[02:15] <tmapj> now its telling me "You have already identified"
[02:15] <shadowblade> John_S: I've got the driver installed from dell in the 'Windows Wireless Drivers' (which I thought was like a gui for ndiswrapper)
[02:15] <John_S> RequinB4: You are having the same problem as shadowblade?
[02:15] <fde> John_S: That should be all he needs once he's configured NetworkManager correctly... shadowpool: have you gone into System > Administration > Network and ensured all settings are correct?
[02:15] <DBautell> then you win, tmapj
[02:15] <shadowpool> I accidentally ran that and it downloaded and installed a whole bunch of stuff.  o.0
[02:16] <Mattevt> How can I get Hardy to realize I'm not using dual monitors, so my desktop is normal.
[02:16] <tmapj> is tony still here
[02:16] <ManBlue> my wife just told me I can do the whole hard drive, should make things easier right? :)
[02:16] <bazhang> tmapj: now you can pm others
[02:16] <fde> shadowpool: Remove that and use 'ndisgtk' instead
[02:16] <drivetrax> yer wife?
[02:16] <bazhang> tmapj: after asking them of course
[02:16] <tmapj> can someone help me install ubuntu
[02:16] <ManBlue> hahaha
[02:16] <Scientus> is there any merge command for general folders????? --- like merging two home directories
[02:16] <ManBlue> yes
[02:16] <John_S> fde: shadowblade said he couldn't even do a iwlist scan though, so setting Network manager isn't going to help I think.
[02:16] <fde> shadowpool: I really recommend you try harder first to get it working the Linux way though  :)
[02:16] <drivetrax> lool
[02:16] <shadowblade> John_S: System > Admin > Network doesnt even show my wireless device now
[02:16] <tmapj> i dont know what a root file system is nor how to choose it
[02:16] <seancron> ManBlue: sure...the more Ubuntu the better :P
[02:17] <RequinB4> John_S - probably not the same card, i have installed a driver but it  is the wrong one for my rev, so i cant connect to the networks i see
[02:17] <tmapj> can anyone help?
[02:17] <ManBlue> I agree, pulling the trigger......... now
[02:17] <fde> tmapj: /msg me with any questions if you'd like slower moving help...
[02:17] <ibleed> tmapj, the root filesystem is referenced as /
[02:17] <Simonf1> bazhang: if you are still here, Thank you soo much. It worked
[02:18] <drivetrax> Man_of_Wax,  Unetbootin.. google on it..
[02:18] <bazhang> Simonf1: great to hear; nice going ;]
[02:18] <John_S> shadowblade: So you have the driver installed via ndiswrapper?
[02:18] <drivetrax> uh.. ManBlue  -- google on Unetbootin.
[02:18] <shadowpool> fde:  I'm just wondering if I broke something.  I restarted and everything seems to work.  I think it might have installed a whole bunch of modules I don't need--I'm not sure.
[02:18] <skinnymg1> hey guys hows it going
[02:18] <Scientus> tmapj in linux the filesystem is independent of hardware
[02:18] <gambler> hi, i am a fedora user i plan to trial ubuntu now. i am a kde user and i use samba/vnc/httpd extensively in my home network. should I download ubuntu or kubuntu and desktop or server edition??
[02:18] <gambler> I would also like to check out the new gnome desktop
[02:18] <Simonf1> bazhang: "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" that's all it took.
[02:18] <Scientus> a partition can be mounted anywhere, even more than one time
[02:19] <bazhang> drivetrax: the unetbootin link is in ubuntuforums (!wubi) link
[02:19] <RequinB4> Simonf1 - you assume an internet connection
[02:19] <seancron> create two cds gambler, one Kubuntu one Ubuntu as see which you like better
[02:19] <seancron> *and
[02:19] <ibleed> gambler, if your sold on kde then kubuntu would be appropriate.  you can use the same /home folder if you like so you dont lose anything
[02:19] <drivetrax> yay!
[02:19] <Simonf1> ﻿RequinB4: yes, I did not find a way to do it without
[02:19] <fde> shadowpool: you can just apt-get remove --purge whatever you got from Dell...
[02:19] <godlygeek> gambler: xubuntu++  :)
[02:20] <ibleed> gambler, sorry didn't see that you can try both out by going with either cd and doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:20] <gambler> so do I download desktop or server edition
[02:20] <bazhang> gambler: desktop can easily add LAMP later gnome and kde are both very nice here
[02:20] <amitava_> hello
[02:20] <seancron> desktop most likely gambler
[02:20] <ibleed> desktop would be ok for your needs i think gambler
[02:20] <godlygeek> gambler: ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu doesn't matter much - try them all, see which you like.
[02:20] <Mattevt> I have dual monitors set up. When I do. The task bar is set up correctly with (Applications Places System) lined up on the top left. When I turned off the computer and unplugged the external monitor, the resolution was still in dual mode. I changed the resolution to fit the single screen but now (apps places system) is lined up on the left...and the items on the task bar are all in different places.
[02:20] <shadowpool> fde: Dell?
[02:20] <gambler> ok cheers
[02:20] <godlygeek> gambler: but, use desktop and add the stuff you need.
[02:21] <amitava_> i am a new ubuntu user
[02:21] <godlygeek> gambler: easier than using server and removing the stuff you don't.
[02:21] <John_S> RequinB4: Do you have the b43-fwcutter software installed? Just curious.
[02:21] <seancron> gambler: the beauty of Linux in general: there's so much to choose from
[02:21] <amitava_> I need some help to access video chat from yahoo
[02:21] <bandyo> Hi all I am a noobi
[02:21] <skinnymg1> and he can also try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: I've added mediubuntu, what should I do next?
[02:21] <bazhang> amitava_: which apps have you tried
[02:22] <charles|64> hey guys does anyone else have a problem with the amarok multimedia buttons script not staying on when you restart amarok?
[02:22] <godlygeek> skinnymg1: will that work from a livecd?
[02:22] <phoenix180> is there a work around for a possibly corrupt C partition? I wanted to install hardy over the C partition, but as I get close to end, I received an error message stating that there was an error with my hard drive or disk drive.  Additional information: I was using the guided partition setup
[02:22] <Simonf1> ﻿bandyo: do you have a question?
[02:22] <skinnymg1> yeah you can do it on a live cd
[02:22] <seancron> godlygeek: i would think it would just install it to ram
[02:22] <gambler> seancron, the beauty and the beast...i think there is such a thing as too much choice
[02:22] <mohamed_> is it possible to remove all evolution packages or is part fromubuntu ?
[02:22] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: for the win32codecs? you can just install that one package if you dont want their repos
[02:22] <amitava_> I tryed pdgin
[02:22] <seancron> gambler: amen
[02:22] <chubs730> do you have a question bandyo?
[02:22] <belor1> My GDM login screen wont center please help
[02:22] <belor1> i also cannot see the fll login screen
[02:22] <ibleed> phoenix180, it sounds like your hard drive is possibly failing
[02:22] <Mattevt> am I invisible :P
[02:23] <phoenix180> it's my first time mucking around with any partitions, so if I wanted to do it manually I really wouldn't know where to start except select "ext3"-->is that correct?
[02:23] <bazhang> we can see you Mattevt
[02:23] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  -- did you burn the CD
[02:23] <seancron> Mattevt: I can see your smiley...so no
[02:23] <phoenix180> yes I did
[02:23] <charles|64> hey guys does anyone else have a problem with the amarok multimedia buttons script not staying on when you restart amarok?
[02:23] <John_S> shadowblade: Do you have the driver installed with ndiswrapper? Type "ndiswrapper -l" at the command line...
[02:23] <phoenix180> I burnt it this afternoon
[02:23] <amitava_> thanks bazhang
[02:23] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  did you check the cd.. was it finalized and closed..
[02:23] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: thanks :)
[02:23] <amitava_> how can I use yahoo chat?
[02:23] <skinnymg1> Mattevt whats up
[02:23] <RequinB4> John_S: i have tried manually installing the compiled package from the repos, to no avail - i tried this fix - http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=738216 - but realized i am rev 3 and therefore using the wrong driver, so I've go the same problem as Rolcol
[02:24] <phoenix180> using Nero, it said burning process has been completed
[02:24] <IntangibleLiquid> amitava_: pidgin
[02:24] <Mattevt> I need ubuntu to recognize when I'm not using dual monitors
[02:24] <drivetrax> kk.. burn at once.. yeah
[02:24] <bazhang> amitava_: does pidgin not work? what about others? which have you tried--not sure about yahoo video chat (never tried it)
[02:24] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  is C empty now
[02:24] <Simonf1> ﻿amitava_: try meebo if you don't mind web-based chat
[02:24] <bazhang> Mattevt: you have clone monitors checked?
[02:24] <ibleed> phoenix180, if your going to do the whole drive and want a ok partitioning scheme for stating off you could do 2x memory for swap, 15gb for / and the rest on /home and if you reinstalled you'd not format your /home to keep your data
[02:25] <fde> shadowpool: Sorry for the delay, yes, you said you got something from Dell which you thought was a GUI for ndiswrapper... if it had deps, I assume it was a .deb ?
[02:25] <skinnymg1> can anyone help me find a driver for my webcam
[02:25] <phoenix180> I'm not sure..all it says is 162.3gb for C and for d: 38889gb
[02:25] <shadowpool> fde:  I think you've got me confused with shadowblade :(
[02:25] <Mattevt> I was using twin view
[02:25] <bazhang> skinnymg1: is it in the webcam list?
[02:25] <John_S> RequinB4: OK sorry to hear that didn't work for you, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:25] <ibleed> phoenix180, you ought to be sure if you dont want to lose any data.  be sure to backup important stuff first
[02:25] <skinnymg1> webcam list?
[02:26] <bazhang> !webcam | skinnymg1 check here first
[02:26] <fde> shadowpool: Would appear so... my apologies.
[02:26] <Onyx> let me be the first to say that uninstalling nvidia drivers manually is a pain in the ass.
[02:26] <phoenix180> for this PC it's ok-I want to completely write over windows
[02:26] <RequinB4> John_S thats not the issue
[02:26] <shadowblade_> John_S: sorry, lost my connection for some reason
[02:26] <Mattevt> it sees that no monitor is connected but the resolution is skewed when I turn on the computer, and when I adjust the resolution the buttons on the taskbar are skewed and Apps places System are on the right instead of the left
[02:26] <red22> i want to change my theme... everything. icons, menu colors, backgrounds, login, .. is there a single file/thingy that packages all those things so i can just double click it and have it all applied? (or as close to simple as possible?)
[02:26] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  OMG.. well C.. You might not want to partition .. you could resize C, and install Ubuntu on it.. or, seperately onto D.. depends what you got on that drive
[02:26] <phoenix180> the only concern I have is for the tv tuner
[02:26] <seancron> phoenix180: who doesn't :P
[02:27] <shadowblade_> John_S: I followed the instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=760568 and i've still got nothin
[02:27] <ibleed> phoenix you can nuke them and do what i said to have a good working partitioning scheme that you might thank me for later :)
[02:27] <Simonf1> ﻿red22: search google for something like that
[02:27] <phoenix180> saving the data?
[02:27] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade_: do you have an internet connection>
[02:27] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  i might ask what TV tuner you got there
[02:27] <bazhang> red22: this is for hardy?
[02:27] <t3rm1n4l> j #pitivi
[02:28] <drivetrax> cas like 7.10 and ati cards are iffy
[02:28] <phoenix180> no clue-it came with the PC
[02:28] <shadowblade_> Simonfl: wired, yes
[02:28] <orgain> hi there
[02:28] <red22> Simonf1: i see some sites that have backgrounds and things individually, but i'm not finding a all-in-one package
[02:28] <red22> bazhang: 8.04
[02:28] <phoenix180> sony pcv-w600g
[02:28] <arvind_khadri> is hardy all right with EXT3??
[02:28] <fde> arvind_khadri: I'd think so... it's the default file system  ;)
[02:28] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade_: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[02:28] <skinnymg1> no its not on the list
[02:28] <orgain> arvind_khadri,  shure why not?
[02:28] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade_: then restart
[02:28] <bazhang> red22 dl the themes you want into a folder then install new themes (from appearnaces) chose from that folder
[02:28] <shadowblade_> Simonfl: already installed
[02:29] <arvind_khadri> fde, the mailing lists show that there is some kinda bug with that
[02:29] <Dr_willis> arvind_khadri,  most people use ext4
[02:29] <Dr_willis> arvind_khadri,  most people use ext3 i mean. :)
[02:29] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade_: and you restarted?
[02:29] <shadowblade_> Simonfl: yep, a few times
[02:29] <skinnymg1> it works in cheese but i cant get it to work with my stream
[02:29] <bazhang> red22: you can get themes from a nubmer of places--> gnome-look.org is one
[02:29] <fde> arvind_khadri: Ubuntu is used by (tens of) millions, and almost all use ext3... I think it'll be fine!
[02:29] <phoenix180> I have saved the data from it before-I had to keep reinstalling windows on it before using that system restore option
[02:30] <Simonf1> shadowblade_: 1. sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist 2. Change “blacklist bcm43xx” to “#blacklist bcm43xx” 3. Restart. You should get a restricted driver message. 4. Enable restricted drive. 5. Restart and you are good to go
[02:30] <RequinB4> Simonf1 - ANY thoughts for getting it done without internet
[02:30] <sparr> why the hell does my dist-upgrade fail, but it can continue when i re-run it?
[02:30] <arvind_khadri> Dr_willis, i too do :) am doing upgrade now,was checking mails and saw lots of ppl having trouble and having to re-install
[02:30] <phoenix180> geez-louise I have been fighting with this since this morning
[02:30] <Simonf1> ﻿RequinB4: see last messege
[02:30] <bazhang> red22 /msg ubottu themes for more links
[02:30] <Dr_willis> arvind_khadri,  im having issues with 'other' things. :)
[02:30] <red22> bazhang: hold on i will try on and see if it has all the changes i'm looking for ty :) i'll get back to you.
[02:31] <bazhang> red22 no worries ;]
[02:31] <arvind_khadri> Dr_willis, :)
[02:31] <Mattevt> so no one has had a problem when switching from dual to single monitor
[02:31] <shadowblade_> Simonfl: Ok, restarting
[02:31] <John_S> Simonf1: It seems like shadowblade might still have problems because his driver is all ready installed via ndiswrapper--he needs to disable that to follow your procedure--don't you think?
[02:31] <bazhang> sparr: it is timing out? what is the exact issue please
[02:32] <RequinB4> Simon - OK, and for enable restricted drive i should just manually install the firmware (assuming it needs a download)
[02:32] <phoenix180> ok is it possible to start a new partition and then sort of adjust it or tweak it to have most of the space in the newly created partition?
[02:32] <arooni> please someone tell me how to get a tftp server up and running on ubuntu?  please someone tell me how to get a tftp server up and running on ubuntu?
[02:32] <sparr> bazhang: it fails because a package install/upgrade fails
[02:32] <eboyjr> Should I install Hardy now?
[02:32] <eboyjr> its alpha though
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> eboyjr: ? hardy isn't alpha
[02:32] <RequinB4> eboyjr: Hardy is post-release
[02:32] <Simonf1> ﻿John_S: I did what he did and it worked, only problem is I did 3 things at once without restarting so I'm not sure which one worked
[02:32] <bazhang> eboyjr: may want to wait depending on if you have laptop or desktop
[02:33] <eboyjr> Ohhhh..... Who wants to update Wikipedia for me? :)
[02:33] <eboyjr> bazhang, desktop
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> eboyjr: you're not usign ppc are you?.. i guess that might still be alpha
[02:33] <eboyjr> Wikipedia says hardy is alphs
[02:33] <John_S> Simonf1: So your driver is installed with ndiswrapper too?
[02:33] <bazhang> eboyjr: best bet is to run livecd first
[02:33] <techqbert> hey guys, if I used a script to tarball ~/ and than rsync, would rsync just update the .zip on the backup disk with w.e binary values are new
[02:33] <eboyjr> IndyGunFreak, I dunno what ppc is :(
[02:33] <TalibJayid> hi
[02:33] <RequinB4> !hi
[02:33] <TalibJayid> anyone using a soundblaster x-fi in linux?
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> eboyjr: mac hardware
[02:33] <Simonf1> ﻿John_S: oh, ndiswrapper, sorry. I tried that and failed
[02:33] <eboyjr> IndyGunFreak, Nope: Dell
[02:34] <eboyjr> piece of crapola
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> eboyjr: ok, then its final release, has been a few days
[02:34] <eboyjr> IndyGunFreak, Okay, thanks
[02:34] <rockysynergy> Hey can any of you how to "run gdb
[02:34] <rockysynergy> first, and then run inkscape from within gdb"
[02:34] <eboyjr> bazhang, Why's that? and not through the Update Manager?
[02:34] <nowimproved> this is the second time this happened to me , and i dont know what to do , it is at the end of the install and asks to insert a different disc durring it trying to install grub
[02:34] <shadowblade> Simonf1: Ok...I did that, but didn't get the restricted drivers window, so I checked it and the broadcom driver isnt listed there anymore
[02:34] <John_S> Simonf1: I think shadowblade having his driver installed via ndiswrapper, and then also trying to use the restricted driver instead, could be a problem.
[02:34] <RequinB4> Everyone seems to be saying ndiswrapper fails with the Broadom43 issue
[02:34] <Judeglass> odd.
[02:34] <Zackymc_k> does anyone have a problem with vista blue screening after ubuntu install? it boots after force shutting it down but takes forever to get working... Any ideas???
[02:35] <bazhang> eboyjr: well if you are ready for possible bugs-->what video card nvidia or ati
[02:35] <Squa7ch> in 8.04, how would I get to the Shared Folders settings like in 7.10, System>Administration>Shared Folders, where would that be in 8.04?
[02:35] <shadowblade> John_S: The restricted driver isn't listed anymore, and its still not working
[02:35] <eboyjr> bazhang, ati (really, really old)
[02:35] <eboyjr> bazhang, rage 128 pro
[02:35] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: look here http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:35] <eboyjr> or something
[02:36] <Judeglass> found after much searchign that for the ipw2200 driver in Hardy Heron: rmmod ipw2200 then modprobe ipw2200 brings it back up fully functional
[02:36] <Simonf1> shadowblade: ﻿John_S had another idea too
[02:36] <shadowblade> Simonf1: I did that once before and that made my wireless device disappear...it was listed before that, but it just wasn't picking up any networks when I know mines working
[02:36] <nowimproved> it says please insert the disc labled ubuntu bleh bleh and i cant even open the drive for one
[02:36] <Judeglass> while it appears to be working automatically
[02:36] <bazhang> eboyjr: well if you have sufficient ram and willing to deal with some outstanding bugs may be worht it; if gutsy is good fro you now may want to hold off
[02:36] <Judeglass> it doesn't quite
[02:36] <RequinB4> John_S shadowblade Simonf1 - The restricted drivers manager suggests not using bcm43xx
[02:36] <AlabamaHit> what does  The composite extension is not available mean. It tells me that when i try to enable the Extras in Visual Effects.
[02:37] <bazhang> nowimproved: disable the cd as repo source in synaptic
[02:37] <eboyjr> bazhang, I dont have any ram ;) ( 512 MB ) .... I'll make a CD... I need one anyway :)
[02:37] <eboyjr> bazhang, Thanks
[02:37] <Simonf1> ﻿RequinB4: what do you mean? If it is the only thing we have...
[02:37] <sparr> how can i switch from mythbuntu to ubuntu or kubuntu splash screens?
[02:37] <bazhang> no worries eboyjr ;]
[02:37] <RequinB4> John_S shadowblade Simonf1 - b43-fwcutter_011-1_i386.deb
[02:37] <Squa7ch> in 8.04, how would I get to the Shared Folders settings like in 7.10, System>Administration>Shared Folders, where would that be in 8.04?
[02:37] <nowimproved> bazhang, so i have to start over again?
[02:37] <jmknsd> HUZZAH! wireless on my laptop with HH!
[02:38]  * jmknsd dances.
[02:38] <ehc> when I start ubuntu there is no sound working, I just have to reset alsa and it will start working. Why could this be? Is there I way I can change this?
[02:38] <RequinB4> John_S shadowblade Simonf1 - is the file that W failed to get when trying to install via the manager
[02:38] <nowimproved> bazhang, i am using the alternative installer disc
[02:38] <shadowblade> RequinB4: whats that and/or where is it?
[02:38] <John_S> RequinB4: Where does the restricted driver manager say it does not recommend bcm43xx?
[02:38] <Mattevt> okay in "Monitor Resolution Settings" I de-select "Clone Screens" hit apply, then close. but when I go back into Resolution Settings, clone screens is checked again.
[02:38] <bazhang> nowimproved: not at all-->just go into synaptic and is this already installed?
[02:38] <[T]an3> what is the gui for compiz?
[02:38] <[T]an3> where can i adjust settings?
[02:38] <bazhang> ccsm [T]an3
[02:38] <[T]an3> ahhh thats right, thanks
[02:39] <nowimproved> bazhang, i am running the installer for a fresh install and this message comes up when installing grub and i cant take the installer disc out right now anyway
[02:39] <jonas3d> is there a way to clear out packages that have failed to install but apt-get keeps trying to reinstall when running dpkg reconfigure -a ?
[02:39] <Dimitree> ok ill try OSx .__.
[02:39] <bazhang> ehc in sound preferences change from autodetect to alsa
[02:39] <nowimproved> it is right at the end of the install process
[02:39] <drivetrax> [T]an3,  - i get at it by right clicking the desktop.. and looking at them
[02:39] <nowimproved> it wont let me do anything i cant continue and finish the install
[02:40] <RequinB4> John_S shadowblade Simonf1 - Not blacklisted, just suggests the fwcutter of a different driver (b43 fwcutter).  PATH = archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/b43-fwcuttr_011-1_i386.deb  I assume everyone has i386
[02:40] <bazhang> nowimproved: does it stop? can you ignore the message?
[02:40] <skinnymg1> so theres no way to get my cam working if its not on the list
[02:40] <skinnymg1> yes
[02:40] <RequinB4> John_S shadowblade Simonf1 - this is the error W gives when trying to let hardware drivers automatically install what was needed w/o a internet conneciton
[02:40] <bazhang> hangon skinnymg1
[02:40] <shadowblade> RequinB4: that link is 404
[02:40] <Simonf1> im using b43 fwcutter
[02:40] <Farnaby> Anybody have any ideas why clicking on the azureus icon won't launch it?
[02:41] <nowimproved> bazhang, i cant do anything
[02:41] <John_S> shadowblade: I think if you want to use Simonf1's suggestion you need to uninstall the ndiswrapper driver--you can't use them both simultaneously.
[02:41] <bazhang> http://www.linuxlove.org/2007/11/12/linux-webcam-microsoft-lifecam-nx-6000-on-ubuntu-and-fedora/ check this list skinnymg1
[02:41] <Hoenikker> ok, i give up, i can't get the brother MFC 685 CW working ever since i got 8.04
[02:41] <hamled> After upgrading to 8.04, while it appears that compiz is working (I get the wobbly windows and such), my previous settings have disappeared, and I can't seem to enable the emerald theme manager. When this happened in gutsy, there was an option in the preferences menu called "GL Desktop" that I guess would reload compiz, but that option is no longer available. How would I go about enabling the emerald themes and possibly getting my deskto
[02:42] <shadowblade> John_S: how do I get the restricted driver back then?
[02:42] <RequinB4> shadowblade - should be an e in cutter (not cuttr)
[02:42] <bazhang> hamled: what about alt f2 emerald --replace
[02:42] <n2diy> My flash card reader stopped responding, how can I restart it?
[02:42] <bazhang> nowimproved: what disk is it asking for?
[02:42] <sparr> wtf @ akiradnews install script popping up a GUI dialog?!?
[02:42] <RAID> hey guys
[02:43] <Zackymc_k> does anyone have a problem with vista blue screening after ubuntu install? it boots after force shutting it down but takes forever to get working... Any ideas???
[02:43] <RAID> I cant seem to get Java work on Firefox 2 on Ubuntu
[02:43] <jonas3d> ok i'll rephrase this... dpkg will not let me install anything with out reconfiguring but the reconfigure fails when it reaches the package that has failed.  Can I kill that package out from being reconfigured?
[02:43] <eriqjaffe> Is there some trick to getting conky to recognize if Sonata is running or not?
[02:43] <RequinB4> Simonf1 - as you know, b43 blacklists bcm43xx...  Maybe this is supposed to happen, i'm just jotting down notes
[02:43] <bazhang> Zackymc_k: not really an ubuntu issue; not sure about vista problems here
[02:43] <John_S> shadowblade: To remove ndiswrapper, I think all it might take is "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" and check there is no ndiswrapper listed in /etc/modules either.
[02:43] <hamled> bazhang, thanks, that worked to get my themes back :) now I just need to figure out how to get the desktop settings I had, since they never seemed to work from the "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings" app, I had to set them up in the GL desktop application
[02:44] <LunaFreeState> Raid:  Install the restricted software package
[02:44] <shadowblade> John_S: ok, restarting again
[02:44] <RAID> ooh
[02:44] <LunaFreeState> Raid:  It has java in it
[02:44] <Zackymc_k> i will ask HP
[02:44] <RAID> ok
[02:44] <ibleed> RAID, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras often fixes that problem for people i think its sun-java6-bin and one other one i can't remember
[02:44] <John_S> shadowblade: Did you make sure ndiswrapper isn't in the file /etc/modules?
[02:44] <n2diy> How can I restart a hotswap device, like an SD card?
[02:45] <nowimproved> bazhang, the ubuntu-8.04 which is how i am installing it and it is in the drive
[02:45] <RAID> I ran across that package and downloaded it but then I did a complete removal at that moment, so I'm going to install it again
[02:45] <jihsro> hey is it quicker to get ubuntu from a torrent or an ftp server?
[02:45] <RequinB4> The b43 driver only works for Broadcom chipsets bcm4306 rev 4 and later I'm told - use bcm43xx driver and bcm43xx-fwcutter for bcm4306 rev 3 and earlier.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> jihsro,  at this time the torrents are MUCH faster
[02:45] <YouKnowMe> Is there anyway I can run FF 2.0 instead of the beta, until my fav extensions become compatible
[02:45] <bazhang> nowimproved: and there was fail install package?
[02:45] <RequinB4> I'm rev 3, so that's why
[02:45] <bazhang> jihsro: torrents
[02:46] <Dr_willis> YouKnowMe,  you can isntall ff2. Or you can use the 'nightly tester tools' extensioon for FF3 to force it to use the ff2 extensions
[02:46] <bazhang> YouKnowMe: sure just install it
[02:46] <RAID> direct download
[02:46] <lowlux> how do i reset compiz fuse?
[02:46] <nowimproved> bazhang, no fail that i know of , it is trying to do grub and i am prompted with this message and i thought it was a fluke , but i installed again and it happened again at the same part
[02:46] <wookienz> hi.. i have istalled an ircd in /etc/ircd but want to make a link in etc/init.d/ so i can run restarts and stops etc rfom there... what is the command?
[02:46] <shadowblade> John_S: Still doesn't work  :(
[02:46] <fengyulu> Hi everybody!!!
[02:46] <bazhang> lowlux you mean disable? alt f2 metacity --replace  then alt f2 compiz --replace
[02:46] <John_S> shadowblade; Did you make sure ndiswrapper isn't in the file /etc/modules?
[02:47] <gaspipe1> hey people
[02:47] <bazhang> nowimproved: this is a fresh install or an upgrade?
[02:47] <nowimproved> a fresh install bazhang
[02:47] <lonran> a command to know what filesystem i am using?
[02:47] <lowlux> i mean reset the compiz setting from when i frist installed it.
[02:47] <bazhang> lonran: mount?
[02:48] <phoenix180> would I have a better chance of installing 7.10 first and then trying to upgrade from there?
[02:48] <shadowblade> John_S: sorry, what all do I need to do to remove ndiswrapper again? I think I might have forgotten something besides that
[02:48] <egc> dudes
[02:48] <LunaFreeState> Ionran: i think fdisk -l
[02:48] <bazhang> lowlux not sure what that was
[02:48] <egc> how to i use desktop cube?
[02:48] <jazzydave> just got 804 running on inspiron 1525
[02:48] <egc> i.e. key combo?
[02:48] <bazhang> !cube | egc
[02:48] <lonran> bazhang, thnks
[02:48] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade, unplug the internet cord for a few secons, then try typing the name of the network you want to connect to. It took a while for it to work for me.
[02:48] <egc> aww
[02:48] <cybojanek> egc: Ctrl+alt and left click on the desktop
[02:48] <nks_> Hello all !, Hey, i have a serious problem ! I'm able to play avi and mp4 files with totem dvd player., but, unable to play anything else ! I've done some of everything but nothing's appearing to work ! HELP PLEASE ANYONE -LOL-!
[02:48] <LunaFreeState> egc: Alt + Ctl + arrow
[02:49] <MacDaddy> hey 8.04 isnt seeing my graphics card, everything is really big, and i cant change the rez past 800x680
[02:49] <John_S> shadowblade: Do a "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" and check there is no ndiswrapper listed in /etc/modules either.
[02:49] <shadowblade> Simonf1: the wireless device still isnt even showing up
[02:49] <Simonf1> ﻿nks_: use VLC
[02:49] <egc> thanks all, mine doesnt seem to work then
[02:49] <drivetrax> super-E
[02:49] <drivetrax> super-O
[02:49] <weeman13221> anyone good with multiple OS networking like using ubuntu windows xp pro and OSX leopard on a network together sharing files
[02:49] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: ok, that is odd, it showed up for me. I wonder if there is another problem also
[02:49] <bazhang> nks_: what about vlc or other players
[02:49] <LunaFreeState> egc: Try looking to see it the short cuts are on
[02:49] <phoenix180> one more question: is it a terrible idea to delete the C partition?
[02:50] <MacDaddy> nvm all
[02:50] <pete___> lol
[02:50] <bazhang> phoenix180: only if you are trying to dual boot ;]
[02:50] <shadowblade> John_S: Ok, it was listed in /etc/modules, so I removed it
[02:50] <nks_> I've tried VLC but was unable to get it to work ! Is there a code that i need to type in terminal?
[02:50] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  - you got disk to install windows back on it?
[02:50] <phoenix180> ohh I see
[02:50] <sourgrape> only if you don't want to ever use windows again :)
[02:50] <shadowblade> Simonf1: I think when i installed the b43 drivers, it broke something
[02:50] <John_S> shadowblade: Great, now reboot again and we'll see where you're at.
[02:50] <shadowblade> John_S: ok...
[02:50] <drivetrax> phoenix180,  using the same disk manager.. (ie, installer boot loader) no problem
[02:50] <RequinB4> Whoever is still working on broadcom - did it work in gutsy
[02:50] <LadyNikon> so ..
[02:51] <IntangibleLiquid> nks_: vlc works fine for me. try running it from the terminal to see what's wrong
[02:51] <Simonf1> ﻿shadowblade: broke what?
[02:51] <Gustov> sooo
[02:51] <LadyNikon> i just updated my 7.10 and my graphics settings are gone.
[02:51] <LadyNikon> my card is no longer detectable
[02:51] <nowimproved> any ideas?
[02:51] <nowimproved> wtf
[02:51] <drivetrax> oooops
[02:51] <weeman13221> MacDaddy: what graphics card u have?
[02:51] <nowimproved> anyone know how i can umount the cdrom and eject -t
[02:51] <n2diy> My flash card reader stopped responding, how can I restart it?
[02:51] <LadyNikon> has there been any reports about the updates borking the system?
[02:51] <itrebal> I've heard reports that the new version of Ubuntu is pretty unstable; is this an unsubstantiated localized issue? or are a lot of people having problems with it?
[02:51] <nowimproved> anyone know how to umount the cdrom on the installer disc
[02:51] <nks_> IntangibleLiquid - ok, i'll give it another try !
[02:52] <itrebal> LadyNikon: amusing
[02:52] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved: try left click menu?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> itrebal,  im having issues in other areas. :(
[02:52] <bazhang> itrebal: what issues are you having? or just want to chat/curious
[02:52] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: i had the same thing updating to 8.04 just reinstall ur driver and ur fine, or use whatever update tool for the driver depending if its nvidia or ati
[02:52] <nowimproved> not the live disc LunaFreeState the alternaive
[02:52] <phoenix180> oh ok so I can delete it when I am at the manual partition screen? and then..create a brand new one? sorry for the lame questions..for the first time I really don't have a single clue
[02:52] <Dr_willis> You cant eject the live cd while you are using it.
[02:52] <Simonf1> shadowblade John_s: it's been nice, I gtg. Good luck.
[02:52] <sourgrape> I upgraded a 5 year old laptop to the new version, it went really smoothly for the most part
[02:52] <hummesse> hi. Im using compiz and i want the wobbly windows. I just think they are oo 'soft' so i want to adjust the so called "spring constant" but even when its maxed out (10.0) the windows are still too 'soft'. Does anyone know which configuration file i need to edit to set this manually?
[02:52] <itrebal> bazhang: a friend of mine had an issue, and before upgradin gmy girlfriend's system, I'd like to make sure she's not going to be super pissed at it not working :)
[02:52] <nowimproved> well wtf Dr_willis why does it ask for a media change then? wtf
[02:52] <jmknsd> Dr_willis: my paperclip disagrees with you
[02:52] <jmknsd> =p
[02:52] <arlong> hi all
[02:52] <drivetrax> upgrade.. don't keep no settings..
[02:53] <John_S> Simonf1: OK, take care. :)
[02:53] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved: look at /etc/fstab use sudo /etc/fstab
[02:53] <arlong> how to change default player for certain file extension?
[02:53] <itrebal> drivetrax: whats this
[02:53] <itrebal> ?
[02:53] <cak054_> this is a touch typing user
[02:53] <nowimproved> lmao this is bull
[02:53] <bazhang> itrebal: best to stick with gutsy if it is working well for you then-->no guarantees given in these parts ;]
[02:53]  * LadyNikon sighs
[02:53] <LadyNikon> !nvidia
[02:53] <drivetrax> itrebal,  -- upgrade vs. update..
[02:53] <arlong> i'm using Hardy Heron
[02:53] <arlong> how to change default player for certain file extension?
[02:53] <cak054_> and i think x chat is the ...... bomb
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> arlong: right click the file/properties/open with tab
[02:54] <itrebal> alright bazhang, I'll hold off for a few weeks :P I was looking forward to a few of the fixes, too :P
[02:54] <bazhang> arlong: right click properties open with
[02:54] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: go into a terminal and type sudo nvidia-installer --update
[02:54] <shadowblade> John_S: still nothing
[02:54] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: if not go to nvidia's website get the driver and follow their instructions
[02:54] <n2diy> arlong: System>Prefrences?
[02:54] <coagent> Hey, can anyone help me with this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218126 Is it fixed in the current Hardy?
[02:54] <fengyulu> ??
[02:55] <arlong> ok, thank you
[02:55] <arlong> i just install ubuntu hardy on this PC
[02:55] <bazhang> !cn | fengyulu
[02:55] <fengyulu> how can i format the hardware?
[02:55] <John_S> shadowblade: OK, so is your restricted driver enabled in System > Admin > Restricted Drivers Manager?
[02:55] <n2diy> My flash card reader stopped responding, how can I restart it?
[02:55] <nowimproved> hey LunaFreeState what should i look for in fstab , it has no cdrom in it , remember i am on the installer disc so ...   i just need to know where the cdrom is in /dev , anyone know anything at all in here?
[02:55] <LadyNikon> weeman13221: i thought there was the *official* way of doing it
[02:55] <bazhang> fengyulu: for dual boot or only ubuntu
[02:56] <shadowblade> John_S: its not there - I think b43 got rid of it
[02:56] <david_-_-> maco you there?
[02:56] <n2diy> nowimproved: look in /media?
[02:56] <maco> david_-_-: im doing homework
[02:56] <sourgrape> Lady, official to whom?
[02:56] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved: wait a minute you want to eject the live cd while using it?
[02:57] <rockysynergy> Can any of you tell me what is the command I can use to record all of my terminal output into a file?
[02:57] <John_S> shadowblade: And do you see Wireless Connection listed System > Admin > Network?
[02:57] <Bricker> could someone help me please:  after connecting my LCD monitor and activating twinview, some of my text is HUGE (for example, log on user/password, and some text in firefox/epiphany)
[02:57] <david_-_-> maco:  ah ok just real quik lol yes wine does work with 64bit sorry i was afk  for while.
[02:57] <weeman13221> LadyNikon, depends on ur video card cause with mine there arent and restricted drivers in ubuntu for my card
[02:57] <shadowblade> John_S: nope :(
[02:57] <LadyNikon> weeman13221: well the restricted driver is not in use for some weird reason
[02:57] <phoenix180> say I think a part of ubuntu did actually install because now while trying to install from 7.10 the total amount of space has shrunk a bit. It went from 162.3gb to 151.3gb.  *sigh* I'm going to keep trying
[02:57] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: other than that just go through nvidias site
[02:57] <hamled> Ok, so it appears that while compiz is working and all that, none of the settings from CompizConfig are actually put into effect. I can disable "wobbly windows" for instance and it still has wobbly windows on the desktop
[02:57] <LadyNikon> how do i turn it on
[02:57] <nowimproved> LunaFreeState, that is the plan , seeing how it is asking for a media change?
[02:57] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: what type of card are u using
[02:57] <John_S> shadowblade: Is wlan0 listed in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:57] <simone> I run hardy and my panels completely disappeared after I restarted in GNOME
[02:57] <simone> How do I get my panels back?
[02:57] <simone> What I can do is very limited.
[02:57] <Bricker> in fact, text is so huge that i can't access google to search for an answer
[02:58] <bazhang> hamled: you need to go into appearances and set to none
[02:58] <nowimproved> so hopefully if i eject it and put it back in it will fix it i dont know LunaFreeState i have never seen anything like this
[02:58] <bazhang> !resetpanels | simone
[02:58] <maco> hamled: check that your system -> pref -> appearance -> desktop effects is set to "custom"
[02:58] <anoble> hello can someone help, i think my Nvidia Driver is corrupt
[02:58] <saxofoner> anoble: uninstall the package and reinstall
[02:58] <shadowblade> John_S: nope, it says 'auto lo' and 'iface lo inet loopback'
[02:58] <DefineKThyne> Firefox won't play videos, either with Totem or VLC plugins, any ideas?
[02:58] <anoble> how?
[02:59] <hamled> maco, oh, hmm 'custom' wasnt' there before, but I guess it is now?
[02:59] <Bricker> saxofoner: help me!
[02:59] <saxofoner> yes Bricker?
[02:59] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved:  that does sound strange, i installed from a flash drive, maybe that is an option for you?
[02:59] <John_S> bazhang: Do you have experience with a Broadcom BCM4311 chipset wireless card? I think I heard some say earlier you've got a broadcom card yourself.
[02:59] <firedice> Good evening everyone....first time here
[02:59] <bazhang> DefineKThyne: firefox? is this flash?
[02:59] <Bricker> saxofoner:  ﻿after connecting my LCD monitor and activating twinview, some of my text is HUGE (for example, log on user/password, and some text in firefox/epiphany)
[02:59] <nowimproved> nope no option for me , my computer cant boot of a flash drive
[02:59] <John_S> shadowblade: Hang on...
[02:59] <bazhang> John_S: just a few link-->no actual card myself
[02:59] <n2diy> firedice: fire away! ;)
[02:59] <anoble> everything keeps on hanging, and it really seems to die
[03:00] <saxofoner> heh, Bricker, do I just strike you as an expert?  I'll try to help though
[03:00] <DefineKThyne> bazhang: not entirely sure, maybe WMV, but it was playing with Totem last night.
[03:00] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved:  you checked the bios settings?
[03:00] <shadowblade> John_S: ok, thanks for all your help, btw
[03:00] <eubey> how do i block all wine applicatoins from accessing the internet?
[03:00] <Bricker> saxofoner:  anyone who plays the sax has to be an expert :P
[03:00] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved:  I had to change mine to do it
[03:00] <Bricker> and thank you :)
[03:00] <weeman13221> LadyNikon: what kinds of video card are u using?
[03:00] <bazhang> DefineKThyne: well kind of important to know-->what site let me check
[03:00] <simone> bazhang: I have no gnome-panel
[03:00] <scurry7> anyone in here good with iptables???????????????
[03:00] <DBautell> !ati > DBautell
[03:00] <John_S> bazhang: Do you know of a working solution for shadowblade's problem? You probably haven't been following, but he has a BCM4311.
[03:01] <firedice> anyone able to assist me in my quest to get vmware server correctly installed on this box?
[03:01] <lesjohn> i'm trying to play a streaming mp3 with mplayer and it plays a second and then stops, then plays again, etc... anyone have any idea to improve the playback?  i've been able to get other formats fine
[03:01] <scurry7> iptables anyone??????????????
[03:01] <DefineKThyne> bazhang: give me a min
[03:01] <bazhang> simone: folloiw the instructions I sent yu abot
[03:01] <nowimproved> LunaFreeState, number one i am sure that i cant install of a flash drive , number 2 i dont have one handy, number 3 this is ridiculous, i should be able to install from a cd , number 4 this is like the 5th time i have attempted to install this bs and i am sick of it
[03:01] <saxofoner> Bricker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=583915&highlight=login+font+huge
[03:01] <sourgrape> firedice - out of curiosity, did you check out Virtual Box?
[03:01] <simone> bazhang: I did but I have NO gnome-panel package installed
[03:01] <slackd00d> less /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc
[03:01] <slackd00d> opps
[03:01] <bazhang> !helpme | scurry7
[03:01] <scurry7> im trying to do some masquerade
[03:01] <LadyNikon> dang he left
[03:02] <firedice> sourgrape - no i havent is it good?
[03:02] <sourgrape> I prefer it over VM Server and it has a nice, neat DEB package to install
[03:02] <ryan__> hi. was adjusting video in ubuntu 8.04, and restarted x11 to 'out-of-range' signal from the monitor.. have tried dpkg-configure and other methods.. i believe the xorg.conf to be broken, but i can't do an accurate hardware detect.. can anyone help with this.. thanks
[03:02] <bazhang> simone: then install it
[03:02] <LunaFreeState> nowimproved:  try reburning the cd or another cd drive if one is handy, another distro if not
[03:03] <Bricker> saxofoner:  it's not just logon font.. and unfortunately, the text in that page is also huge
[03:03] <bazhang> ryan__: try starting up in safe mode then down the res and load the appropriate drivers
[03:03] <astro76> 88
[03:03] <maco> scurry7: firestarter is a nice GUI for setting up iptables rules
[03:03] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: if some wifi networks show up in my nm-applet, does it mean that my wireless card is working properly? I haven't tried to get online using my wireless card though because all of them are encrypted
[03:03] <Shpoo2> If anyone remembers me coming in here trying to fix my computer freezing when playing video, I found the fix. It was all related to the bug when sound preferences are set to auto-detect. I set them all to alsa as suggested, and everything is fine. Hope that can help someone else.
[03:03] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: that is a good sign ;]
[03:03] <arooni> anyone know how to make tftp work on ubuntu?  i was trying: http://www.davidsudjiman.info/2006/03/27/installing-and-setting-tftpd-in-ubuntu/ and http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch16_:_Telnet,_TFTP,_and_xinetd#Installing_The_TFTP_Server_Software with no luck :(
[03:03] <sourgrape> firedice - what do you need to use VM Server for?  Just playing around?  Or do you have VMs already set up?
[03:03] <nowimproved> lmao LunaFreeState i dont think that will do any good, and another disto is probably the way to go, the ubuntu community knows nothing
[03:03] <jpastore> hi, I just upgraded to 8.04 and my wifi stopped working...I was using wicd to manage my wifi. any ideas on wha tI can do to bring this back?
[03:03] <bazhang> thanks Shpoo2
[03:03] <scurry7> maco thanks i have tryed that......(im having trouble with iptables telling it not to ﻿masquerade multiple subnets
[03:03] <aib> is famd, the File Alteration Monitor daemon, installed by default on ubuntu?
[03:04] <LadyNikon> ok so.. under the restricted drivers.. I have nvidia .. but in status it says "not in use"
[03:04] <maco> Bricker: check your DPI in system -> preferences -> appearances -> font -> details
[03:04] <John_S> shadowblade: Did you follow simonf1's directions exactly about the restricted driver? Because if that didn't work with ndiswrapper uninstalled, then you may have no choice but to try and get ndiswrapper solution working.
[03:04] <LadyNikon> how do I use it?
[03:04] <garry> Does anyone know how to completely remove wine from your system?
[03:04] <firedice> I like to set up 3 things ....WOW - 3ds max and photoshop
[03:04] <astro76> garry: what's left, menu entries?
[03:04] <maco> scurry7: oh.  firestarter's meant for simple things.  maybe guarddog? its more complicated and can do more complicated things...
[03:04] <bazhang> garry: go into synaptic and check remove completely
[03:04] <n2diy> !bugs | Shpoo2
[03:04] <LunaFreeState> nowimpoved:  that is the spirit, blame some one else
[03:04] <Shpoo2> bazhang: No, thank you and everyone else in here that has saved everyone's arse many a times. :-)
[03:04] <ryan__> bazhang: (unregistered sorry)  down the resolution in xorg.conf?
[03:04] <aib> could someone who has not expliticly installed famd run `ps -A | grep fam' and tell me if it's listed?
[03:04] <shadowblade> John_S: I think all simonf1 told me was to restart and hope the box comes up
[03:04] <scurry7> guarddog...i'll give it a try : thanks
[03:04] <garry> astro76: Menu items yes, but when I click on the wine apps, it will still load the application like normal. Does that mean wine is still kicking around somewhere in there?
[03:05] <IntangibleLiquid> bazhang: where are you from?
[03:05] <bazhang> ryan__: donw the res in monitors gui setting
[03:05] <maco> aib: its not
[03:05] <bazhang> IntangibleLiquid: Earth ;]
[03:05] <garry> bazhang: I've done that :(
[03:05] <IntangibleLiquid> lol
[03:05] <aib> thanks
[03:05] <anoble> can someone help 8.04 just keeps running the boot script then dies right after
[03:05] <Shpoo2> n2diy: It's already been filed, that's where I got the fix from. I'm getting ready to add my scenario to it though. :-D
[03:05] <Moridin333> I'm trying to install jinzora (a website to view media such as video and mp3s from a host) but when I try to run the install.php firefox tries to download the file instead on run it.  I have installed apache2 php5 mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql php5-gd.  any ideas?
[03:05] <ryan__> bazhang: i can't get into a gui.. only command prompt
[03:05] <kdorf> aib: No output for that command
[03:05] <sourgrape> garry - have you tried sudo apt-get remove wine  ?
[03:05] <aib> thanks, maco, kdorf
[03:05] <bazhang> ryan__: try starting up in recovery mode
[03:05] <n2diy> Shpoo2:  good job, thanks.
[03:06] <garry> sourgrape: yep, lemme try it again though I forget what it tells me.
[03:06] <Eric> That was pretty instant and unexpected
[03:06] <Eric> Oopsie poopsie
[03:06] <Bricker> going tot ry it
[03:06] <bazhang> garry some of my wine stuff has hung around after I uninstalled wine--> you can hunt it down and manually removie it  if you wish
[03:06] <sourgrape> garry -k, let me know what it says - I had some issues with WINE on 8.04 myself
[03:06] <John_S> shadowblade: here was what simonf1 said earlier: 1. sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist 2. Change “blacklist bcm43xx” to “#blacklist bcm43xx” 3. Restart. You should get a restricted driver message. 4. Enable restricted drive. 5. Restart and you are good to go.   Did you do this exactly? That's what supposedly worked for him.
[03:06] <Eric> The hell do i add an IRC server in Xchat?
[03:06] <schnoowork> if i wanted to use hotmail/gmail/yahoo with my email client is it best to go thunderbird(what i previously used) or just go with evolution
[03:06] <n2diy> My flash card reader stopped responding, how can I restart it?
[03:06] <Shpoo2> n2diy: Gotta do my part to keep open source moving. :-)
[03:07] <bazhang> schnoowork: depends on what you like better
[03:07] <shadowblade> John_S: yea, I did that - the message never came up
[03:07] <DefineKThyne> bazhang: yeah, wmv. it's not flash. i've got both Totem and VLC plugins for firefox and i just get a plain black screen with (no video) on it.
[03:07] <sourgrape> Schnoo - personal opinion - thunderbird was better for me than evolution, but I dn't use the calender
[03:07] <garry> bazhang: I'm not sure which files to remove and don't wanna dmg my system :( I'm a nub.
[03:07] <firedice> sourgrape - virtual box runs apps and games?
[03:07] <n2diy> Shpoo2:  Exactly!!!!
[03:07] <ryan__> bazhang: i have..  it offers normal boot, command prompt, and fix xwindows.. my only option is the command prompt since normal boot sends my monitors to blank
[03:07] <garry> sourgrape: I said it was removed, then I tested it with WoW and it would still load like normal
[03:07] <bazhang> DefineKThyne: what is the link let me check
[03:07] <sourgrape> firedice - really depends on the games.  I'd give the games a try in Crossover Office or Wine first
[03:07] <fde> firedice: VirtualBox runs operating systems, which can run apps and games  :)
[03:07] <david__--> et
[03:07] <david__--> et
[03:07] <firedice> wine does not work for me
[03:07] <schnoowork> bazhang, i guess my question is can you set those up easily on evolution. For thunderbird i jsut needed a hotmail plugin.
[03:07] <david__--> can someone help me install dreamweaver?
[03:08] <sourgrape> firedice - but yes, it will run games
[03:08] <bazhang> schnoowork: only used t-bird myself so best to ask the channel ;]
[03:08] <sourgrape> schnoo - no idea - I use Tbird for gmail
[03:08] <IntangibleLiquid> schnoowork: for email I prefer the online page though
[03:08]  * PrivateVoid waves
[03:08] <bazhang> david__--: have you checked appdb for that?
[03:08] <SirBob1701> hey guys what package in ubuntu had the X11 headers?
[03:08] <saxofoner> Bricker: just open your fonts settings, one of them should (or more) be set too hight
[03:08] <John_S> shadowblade: Well, try adding "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" to the beginning of your /etc/network/interfaces file, with a few blank lines after it. That will at least enable us to select your wireless connection in Network manager I think.
[03:08] <saxofoner> *high
[03:08] <astro76> SirBob1701: xorg-dev I'd assume
[03:09] <sourgrape> garry - that's odd.  If you run aptitude, filter by installed apps, then search WINE does something come up?
[03:09] <SirBob1701> astro76: thank i'll try it
[03:09] <ChoboMog> Hi...I've installed Hardy and have been having a little trouble setting up surround sound.  I have it working perfectly in almost every application which can use it (VLC, Firefox/Flash, etc), but I can't get it to work in either Rhythmbox or Amarok media players.  Does anyone know if there are any advanced settings which could fix this?
[03:09] <astro76> SirBob1701: or xserver-xorg-dev
[03:09] <gaspipe1> what would be the most thourough way of removing the app screenlets? I think i have an old one.
[03:09] <gaspipe1> i would like to remove then re-install it fresh
[03:09] <Bricker> saxofoner:  no, only happens after i connect my second monitor  (i'm going to disconnect it.. but b/c of my inefficient setup, it's a huge pain) brb
[03:09] <sourgrape> garry - sorry, not aptitude... Synaptic ... need more scotch!
[03:09] <surlyduff> hey..  my system crashed while upgrading from gutsy and now the Update Manager says to do a partial upgrade, but then tells me it can't.  any thoughts on what to do?
[03:09] <ryan__> bazhang: i have started in recover mode..  it offers normal boot, command prompt, and fix xwindows.. my only option is the command prompt since normal boot sends my monitors to blank.. i tried dpkg-reconfigure and more from the command prompt.. nothing seems to recognize hardware i've been using in 7.10 and 8.04 for a while
[03:10] <shadowblade> John_S: nope, its not there after adding that line
[03:10] <saxofoner> Bricker: did you hook it up with nvidia-settings?
[03:10] <bazhang> ChoboMog: have you apt-cache search amarok for any plugins?
[03:10] <DefineKThyne> bazhang: http://s2.bgweiz.at/sebastian.rode/Neuer%20Ordner/Sound/Enter%20The%20Matrix.wmv
[03:10] <david__--> bazhang:totally new to linux,so no i havent...and havent gotten time to learn it because of fixing the wireless problemsoper yet be
[03:10] <garry> sourgrape: you're not the only one ^_^  it looks like WoW isn't opening up anymore
[03:10] <John_S> shadowblade: OK, I think you need to reboot then.
[03:10] <shadowblade> John_S: ok...
[03:10] <garry> sourgrape: however, my .wine folder is still kickin around,  is it ok to simply delete it?
[03:10] <SirBob1701> astro76: yup thanks
[03:11] <o0Chris0o> I miss playing WoW, but when i play that...I have no life :(
[03:11] <sourgrape> garry - yep, you can kill it safely
[03:11] <nowimproved> yup that worked i had to go into console unmount the drive
[03:11] <nowimproved> then remount it
[03:11] <garry> sourgrape: ok, great.  So now, theoretically... I should be able to reinstall wine and it would have default settings?
[03:11] <nowimproved> ridiculous
[03:11] <sourgrape> garry - in theory, yeppers
[03:12] <Shpoo2> o0Chris0o: Linux has saved my marriage due to not being able to play WoW.
[03:12] <Shpoo2> :-D
[03:12] <o0Chris0o> hehe
[03:12] <o0Chris0o> its a addicting
[03:12] <ChoboMog> bazhang:  What do you mean by apt-cache.  Sorry, I'm familliar with some things on Ubuntu, but Im still relatively new.
[03:12] <bazhang> DefineKThyne: that is a drm'd wmv--some MS products likely could not play it
[03:12] <foxhop> ﻿Shpooked: I doubt it.
[03:12] <shadowblade> John_S: still not in the network manager
[03:12] <HorizonXP> ﻿hey, I'm having trouble running Guild Wars. I can't type into the account info box, it seems to pass through to the Ubuntu desktop. Any ideas?
[03:13] <Shpooked> foxhop: Doubt what?
[03:13] <ChoboMog> bazhang:  Also, if it makes any difference, Audacious (another audio polayer for Linux) plays stereo mp3's etc in surround no problem
[03:13] <bazhang> ChoboMog: if you open a terminal you can type apt-cache search keyword (mp3 for example) and then get a list of everything related to that
[03:13] <DefineKThyne> bazhang: i was still playing wmvs last night though, the only thing i did that might've messed it up was uninstall the totem plugin and reinstall it.
[03:13] <eubey> how do i block all wine applications from accessing the internet?
[03:13] <slowlearner> hi i'm having this "undefined reference to `uuid_generate_time'" when compiling eventhough uuid-dev is installed.. anyone knows why?
[03:13] <John_S> shadowblade: You sure "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" is in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:14] <Shpooked> Oh thanks, that reminds, my last question for the night: Is there a program that will allow you to edit wmv meta-tags?
[03:14] <bazhang> DefineKThyne: aye, some wmv's will play-->that link gave no file at this url error
[03:14] <shadowblade> John_S: yes, I put it right at the beginning with 3 blank lines after it
[03:14] <DefineKThyne> bazhang:  alrighty then, i'll look around at some other stuff and see what i can dig up, you look like you've got your hands full here. thanks anyway
[03:15] <phoenix180> under 7.10,  I'm on the Prepare disk space part of the installation: now instead of the two options(guided-use entire disk and manual), I now have three: guided-resize SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) and used free space and underneath it says: New partition size:  __________51%(76.0GB)__________  now-do I continue using this method and what exactly does this all mean? does this mean that I am choosing(default) to use 51%
[03:15] <bazhang> ChoboMog: perhaps in the short term stick with audactious (or whatever is best) til someone comes up with a way to do it otherwise
[03:15] <shadowblade> John_S: All that shows up in the network manager is Wired Connection and Point to point connection (my laptop has a dial up modem)
[03:17] <firedice> so is this were all noobs come for help?
[03:17] <slackd00d> and the oldbs
[03:17] <ethan961> firedice: somewhat, just don't call them noons or you well get called banned
[03:17] <ChoboMog> bazhang:  Ok that's cool.  I guess it isn't urgent as long as most things work fine ^_^  I'll keep trying anything which comes to mind and post a solution on the forums if I find one
[03:17] <leprasmurf> hey all, how can I downgrade to myth-frontend from Hardy.  I'm using knoppmyth as a backend and it's version .20 (incompatible with .21 that's installed with hardy)
[03:18] <bazhang> thanks ChoboMog
[03:18] <wisedude> Can someone walk me through setting up a static IP on my computer within my network?  I keep having problems trying - resulting in Ubuntu not identifying any networks
[03:18] <dmsuperman> How do I determine which sound device I'm currently using? I'm trying to get VMWare to have sound, but it defaults to "/dev/dsp" and then says it can't connect to it, so I want to see if perhaps that's not my actual device
[03:18] <firedice> I consier my self a noob...1 week old
[03:18] <John_S> shadowblade: OK, I'm sorry because I don't think I can help you any more with your Broadcom chip card. I installed my card a bit differently with ndiswrapper than the way you probably will have to (if you end up taking that route), because you have to also disable the restricted BCM drivers. So if that link you sent me about doing that for your card didn't work, your best bet may be to post...
[03:18] <John_S> ...at ubuntuforums.org with all your details. Or maybe someone else here can help. Good luck though. :)
[03:18] <izak> Anyone got any advice on getting video drivers installed/working? Geforce 6800, had trouble in Gutsy but got it working with Envy, upgraded to Hardy, tried the new Envy, but no dice - low graphics mode every time
[03:18] <douglas> Hi there
[03:18] <douglas> I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed
[03:18] <shadowblade> John_S: ok, thanks a lot anyway
[03:19] <douglas> I use ipw3945 wireless drivers on Debian etc, what do I need?
[03:19] <douglas> for ubuntu
[03:19] <John_S> shadowblade: No problem. :)
 how do i block all wine applications from accessing the internet?
[03:19] <Judeglass> i am curious as well, is there an app to block outgoing connections by application
[03:20] <Mattevt> I'm back to try again: What can I do about hardy keeping dual monitor settings, even when I'm unplugged from the second monitor?
[03:20] <John_S> wisedude: You can't do it from System > Admin > Network?
[03:20] <Judeglass> similar to little snitch in OS X
[03:20] <rokumanxes> Hello, everyone.  I need some help, if anyone can.  My network connection isn't working properly.
[03:20] <rokumanxes> Rather, the icon doesn't do what it did...  1 left-click brings up connection properties.
[03:20] <seancron> Mattevt: if you can figure how to switch between the two you could write a script
[03:21] <wisedude> John --> I'm still having trouble
[03:21] <wisedude> It won't connect to any networks afterwards
[03:21] <Mattevt> is this a common problem?
[03:21] <dmsuperman> How do I determine which sound device I'm currently using? I'm trying to get VMWare to have sound, but it defaults to "/dev/dsp" and then says it can't connect to it, so I want to see if perhaps that's not my actual device
[03:21] <wisedude> I registered on freenode - will I be able to PM people now?  (So I could ask you in PM)
[03:21] <John_S> wisedude: OK, I better let someone else handle it. :)
[03:21] <red22> i want to try alternative menubars/launchers but i don't want to lose my settings for my current gnome panel layout... the only way to remove it is to "delete this panel".. can't i just temporarily take it off and then restore it? or back it up?
[03:21] <wisedude> kk
[03:21] <wisedude> Fair enough
[03:22] <wisedude> Thanks for trying though John, I greatly appreciate the attention
[03:22] <wisedude> :)
[03:22] <dmsuperman> red22: Just move your current one off the to side for now?
[03:22] <rainwalker> umm...why does rhytmbox open instead of sound juicer when I put in a CD?
[03:22] <douglas> Hello
[03:23] <douglas> I need to get wireless to work on my Ubuntu 8.04
[03:23] <dmsuperman> rainwalker, System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[03:23] <douglas> ipw3945
[03:23] <douglas> Is there any way to do it via apt?
[03:23] <sourgrape> rainwalker - go to administration / preferred applications and set it yet?
[03:23] <searcher135> i installed ubuntu hardy from wubi and it froze earlier and i had to do a hard reboot. when i restarted, it went to a busybox screen and when i restarted in recovery, it said root.disk was not found. i believe it is corrupt because root.disk is still listed in my vista file system. is there anyway i can repair the root.disk file without having to reinstall ubuntu and losing my settings?
[03:23] <arooni> what is my gateway address for:  eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1B:FC:BD:E9:68
[03:23] <arooni>           inet addr:192.168.0.103  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[03:23] <rokumanxes> Any help with my Connection?
[03:23] <red22> dmsuperman: i'm trying to back it up completely... i want to get rid of it bc when you move to side or "hide" it, it still shows a little lip that is annoying.  i want to try the new dock for a week or so at least to give it a try.
[03:23] <rokumanxes> wlan0 is not working...
[03:23] <n2diy> rainwalker: menu > system > prefrences > preferred apps?
[03:23] <sourgrape> arooni - just a guess, probably 192.168.0.1
[03:24] <Mattevt> so there's nothing I can do about switching between single and dual monitors.
[03:24] <Sonja> the new FireFox crashes a lot in Hardy Heron, especially on pages with Flash :(
[03:24] <saaron> can anyone tell me how to change a drives label? i've installed hardy and my drive has changed from hda1 to disk in /media/ which of course broke all of my image links
[03:24] <dmsuperman> How do I determine which sound device I'm currently using? I'm trying to get VMWare to have sound, but it defaults to "/dev/dsp" and then says it can't connect to it, so I want to see if perhaps that's not my actual device
[03:24] <sourgrape> sonja - i had issues using gnash, i'm ok with flash
[03:24] <Mattevt> Sonja: that's why I downgraded to ff2
[03:24] <rainwalker> sourgrape: I looked there, it's different than it used to be; there's no option asking me what to do when a removable disk or cd is inserted
[03:24] <alphakamp_> sonja: its beta (firefox) that is
[03:24] <douglas> Anyone?
[03:24] <n2diy> My flash card reader stopped responding, how can I restart it?
[03:24] <smee> hello
[03:25] <rokumanxes> In the Connection Properties, if I click configure, it doesn't work properly.
[03:25] <sourgrape> rainwalker - you're right, I remember seeing those optiosn somewhere
[03:25] <searcher135> i installed ubuntu hardy from wubi and it froze earlier and i had to do a hard reboot. when i restarted, it went to a busybox screen and when i restarted in recovery, it said root.disk was not found. i believe it is corrupt because root.disk is still listed in my vista file system. is there anyway i can repair the root.disk file without having to reinstall ubuntu and losing my settings?
[03:26] <rokumanxes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775132
[03:26] <rokumanxes> Please, help.
[03:26] <xim> is there a command that gives information about system memory and usage and stuff
[03:26] <rnartos> the newer version of skype doesn't have group???
[03:27] <AndrewBuck> xim cat /proc/meminfo
[03:27] <sourgrape> xim - I use "free -m"
[03:27] <IdleOne> xim type top in a terminal
[03:27] <smee> can someone help me figure out how to connect to the internet, please
[03:27] <xim> sweet thanks guys
[03:27] <ManBlue> Hey, I got ubunto on there now, but no internet connection. What gives thought that was automatic?
[03:27] <xim> yay ubuntus using all 4gigs
[03:28] <sourgrape> xim, it's a great feelign isn't it? :)
[03:28] <cyris||> anyone around using ddns behind a PAT router? ez-ipupdate listens and updates on eth0 but then updates my ddns host with my private IP.
[03:28] <xim> totally!
[03:28] <nsx> then configure your ddns client to work with nat.  or get one that supports nat.
[03:29] <searcher135> can someone please help? root.disk is corrupt. can i repair it?
[03:29] <nsx> you're better off doing ddns updates from the router itself, though, as it knows immediately when its WAN ip changes.
[03:29] <egc> test
[03:29] <AndrewBuck> is there a way to disable the loading of modules on running from the live cd?
[03:29] <neon> is there a channel to help with TORK? thx
[03:29] <AndrewBuck> my boot process is locking up trying to load bluetooth
[03:30] <searcher135> i cant boot ubuntu at all. help!
[03:30] <arooni-mobileasd> what the hell do i put for gateway address?  for my network card?  how do i know what this is?
[03:30] <smee> ubuntu doesn't recognize my wireless card, so it doesn't detect my network..can anyone help?
[03:30] <cyris||> nsx, thanks
[03:30] <rokumanxes> Can anyone please help me?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775132
[03:30] <musikgoat> arooni-mobileasd: its likely your routers address
[03:31] <douglas> I can't get ipw3945  working on Ubuntu
[03:31] <douglas> Any ideas hwo to do it? :(
[03:31] <douglas> im desperate
[03:31] <sourgrape> arooni - are you on a windows machine now?
[03:32] <rokumanxes> Hello?
[03:32] <rainwalker> sourgrape: apparently it's under System > Preferences > File management now (in Hardy)
[03:32] <searcher135> root.disk is still corrupt. how to repair?
[03:32] <xim> why does the %cpu values in top not add up to 100%?
[03:32] <xim> it adds up to more
[03:32] <sourgrape> rainwalker - thank you!  I was going nuts looking for that
[03:32] <AndrewBuck> xim: you probably have a dual core
[03:32] <maco> xim: do you have a dual core?
[03:32] <xim> ah yep
[03:32] <maco> thatd total to 200%
[03:32] <AndrewBuck> xim: so 200% is full usage
[03:32] <rokumanxes> I can't configure my network settings!
[03:32] <rainwalker> sourgrape: same here...that really makes no sense, even if nautilus handles mounting now
[03:32] <rokumanxes> Please help.
[03:33] <xim> well then why are their two python processes using 80% and 47% isnt that a little crazy?
[03:33] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: are you using dhcp or static ip
[03:33] <AndrewBuck> xim: depends what their doing.
[03:33] <rokumanxes> Um... I believe static.
[03:33] <searcher135> root.disk is still corrupt. how can i repair?
[03:33] <xim> any way to see what each is doing?
[03:33] <AndrewBuck> xim: i think python is interpreted so it might tak\e a lot of cpu to do some things but i know very little about it
[03:34] <xim> ah ok
[03:34] <rokumanxes> I had wifi working last night, but... now I can only connect through the ethernet port.
[03:34] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: was it the gateway address you were asking about
[03:34] <searcher135> somebody.....help. bad root.disk. repair options?
[03:35] <AndrewBuck> searcher135: "man fsck"
[03:35] <maco> xim: if you look at the left column, it tells you the process ID.  you can run: ps -ef | grep <the process id you see on the left>
[03:35] <bazhang> searcher135: what do you mean; please clarify
[03:35] <rokumanxes> No...
[03:35] <sourgrape> Searcher - no idea here... I haven't even touched Wubi
[03:35] <maco> xim: thatll tell you what the whole process is that's running so maybe itll say "python <app name>" and youll know what python app is doing it
[03:35] <rokumanxes> Um, when I click the two monitors once, it automatically brings up Connection Properties.
[03:36] <searcher135> my root.disk file appears to be corrupt. i am transferred to busybox but it exists in vista file system
[03:36] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  Here, this explains more.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775132
[03:36] <xim> ok thanks maco
[03:36] <bazhang> searcher135: you mean / ?
[03:36] <searcher135> yes
[03:37] <Aristocles> hi all!
[03:37] <sourgrape> I guess wubi creates someting like a virtual partition on an NTFS partition? I guess I should learn more about it
[03:37] <bazhang> searcher135: try checking the fs
[03:37] <sourgrape> Evenin, Aristocles
[03:37] <Sonja> Mattevt and alphakamp_ how do i downgrade to ff2 step by step... OR when will ff3 stop crashing?
[03:37] <compaqr4000> Hey everyone.....
[03:37] <searcher135> ok. thanks. ill be back. i need to switch computers
[03:37] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: has it worked on wifi in the past?
[03:37] <Aristocles> could someone help me with my laptop?  It will shut down, but will not restart
[03:37] <rokumanxes> Yeah, just last night.
[03:38] <rokumanxes> Then its battery died last night, and...  Well, it's screwy.
[03:38] <d33d> What is Ubuntu Open Week?
[03:38] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: then im not sure i can really help you, i misunderstood your original qeustion and thought i might be able to.  I don't know much about wifi.
[03:38] <sourgrape> aristocles - if you go to a prompt and type sudo reboot does it hang somewhere?
[03:38] <bazhang> d33d: when people get together to exchange ideas iirc
[03:38] <alphakamp_> sonja: Hopefully the final version of ff3 will be out soon.
[03:39] <rokumanxes> well, I don't really need help with wifi, but I do need help with just getting to change the settings properly.
[03:39] <d33d> bazhang, how do i participate
[03:39] <zcat[1]> is there a reason why /etc/hosts has "127.0.0.1 localhost / 127.0.1.1 hostname" rather than just "127.0.0.1 localhost hostname" ?
[03:39] <Sonja> alphakamp_ so in a few days, that Flash-crash bug will be fixed?
[03:39] <Aristocles> nope.  it will actually shut down, but when it boots back up it hangs right after the toshiba screen.  Sometimes stops there sometimes boots to a prompt...won't do anything
[03:39] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: you could try "sudo ifconfig" on the terminal and see if that gives you any info.
[03:39] <bazhang> d33d: you know when it starts?
[03:40] <d33d> bazhang, apparently its already going on?
[03:40] <anoble> hello can some one help me i cant setup resolution bigger then 800x680
[03:40] <bazhang> d33d: you got a link?
[03:40] <alphakamp_> sonja: wouldnt say a few days because I have no idea... Am looking for a nice how to
[03:40] <sourgrape> Aristocles - guess it never did that with Winders on it?
[03:40] <anoble> 800x600*
[03:40] <d33d> bazhang, no, i might get one, checking my loco group
[03:40] <Aristocles> nope.
[03:41] <Aristocles> Vista is a problem all its own lol
[03:41] <rokumanxes> If I click the two monitors once, it brings up the connection properties instead of the little dropdown that says "wired connection" "wireless" and all that....
[03:41] <anoble> can someone help me, i cant get my resolution bigger then 800x600
[03:41] <tuxus> Hi folks - My kids' been bugging me. He can't go to this site (http://www.maidmarian.com/Sherwood.htm) and play it; more plugins are required. I have the latest adobe flashplayer installed. Any clues?
[03:41] <d33d> bazhang, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[03:42] <bazhang> thanks d33d
[03:42] <anoble> can someone help me, i cant get my resolution bigger then 800x600
[03:42] <krim> I just updated to Hardy and text in the terminal looks kind of fuzzy, anyone experienced the same and/or knows what to do about it? Elsewhere the text looks fine.
[03:42] <d33d> bazhang, join #ubuntu-classroom
[03:42] <sourgrape> Aristocles - besides trying to upgrade the bios (which can be risky in and of itself on a Toshiba) I don't know
[03:42] <tuxus> anoble: need more info: what's your hardware, etc
[03:42] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: i don't know anything about the gui config stuff.  i can't get my ubuntu running from the disk, i am running debian right now.  "sudo ifconfig" should list the properties of all the connections though, it might shed some light on the problem
[03:42] <Aristocles> anoble, have you tried going to system->preferences->screen resolution?
[03:42] <bazhang> d33d: I was about to suggest the same to you ;]
[03:42] <anoble> tuxus: yes i have
[03:42] <jrib> !shockwave > tuxus (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:42] <alphakamp_> sonja: Use synaptic package manager system ==> administration==> synaptic   Search for firefox and 2.0.0.14 is available
[03:42] <joshvittetoe> hi
[03:42] <anoble> Aristocles*: yes i have
[03:43] <douglas> hey
[03:43] <CYREX> hi
[03:43] <rokumanxes> I typed that, but... all that came up, I have no idea what it all means...
[03:43] <douglas> im having a new ubuntu issue
[03:43] <douglas> http://rafb.net/p/oetppA64.html
[03:43] <patifa> tuxus: Shockwave
[03:43] <douglas> Its a compilation issue
[03:43] <bazhang> anoble: this is gutsy or hardy
[03:43] <FloodBot1> douglas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <douglas> Can anyone take a quick look?
[03:43] <leprasmurf> how can I downgrade mythtv-frontend if there is no "force version" option in synaptic?
[03:43] <Aristocles> thanks sourgrape.  I did upgrade the bios when it had windows.  I appreciate your thoughts anyway :)
[03:43] <tuxus> jrib: re flash - you lost me... which private message
[03:43] <anoble> bazhang: 8.04
[03:43] <jrib> tuxus: you should have received a private message from ubottu
[03:43] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: does it have asection for eth0 as well as wlan0?
[03:43] <patifa> !shockwave > patifa
[03:43] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | anoble this might help you out
[03:43] <rokumanxes> Yeah.
[03:44] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk hardy | anoble see this
[03:44] <sourgrape> Aristocle - is the keyboard responsive? (numlock will light up, etc?) or is the hard drive light pegged?
[03:44] <bazhang> anoble envyng-gtk for hardy will help you install the proper drivers
[03:44] <Aristocles> i don't think either.  lemme look...
[03:45] <DG19075> anoble: you can also go to the configuration editor,  and check off Screens and Graphics under Other. Then you can select your driver and monitor
[03:45] <HorizonXP> can someone help me with Guild Wars on Wine in Hardy?
[03:45] <anoble> bazhang: sudo apt-get envyng-gtk ?
[03:45] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: are you still there?
[03:45] <rokumanxes> Yes.
[03:45] <HorizonXP> I'm trying to reset my account password, and it hangs at the Connecting screen
[03:45] <anoble> bazhang: install*
[03:45] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install anoble
[03:45] <sourgrape> heh, for shockwave, I just installed IE and WINE
[03:45] <sourgrape> well, crossover anyways
[03:46] <patifa2> Wouldn't Firefox for windows + shockwave work just as well under wine than dangerous IE?
[03:46] <jrib> tuxus: you need shockwave, not flash
[03:46] <jrib> patifa2: sure
[03:46] <sourgrape> I'm not too worried about what IE on WINE will do - but yea
[03:46] <SitUbuntuSit> I have safari with flash and shockwave
[03:47] <sourgrape> for me it just solved a couple of problems - work sites coded specifically to IE, etc
[03:47] <student> ?
[03:47] <anoble> bazhang: yes i did that what now?
[03:47] <leprasmurf> how can I downgrade mythtv-frontend to the .20 version if there is no "force version" option in synaptic?
[03:47] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: is there a section for wlan0 in the ifconfig output?
[03:47] <joshvittetoe> if anybody can help me, i have some installation questions. im getting some errors, pm me. thanks
[03:47] <rokumanxes> Yeah.
[03:47] <bazhang> anoble: launch it
[03:47] <tuxus> ubottu: thx, got it. see if I can get that to work
[03:47]  * patifa2 pokes patifa.
[03:47] <jrib> leprasmurf: does apt-cache policy list the version you want?
[03:47] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  Yeah, there is.
[03:47] <matthias> Hi why does not wireless work when SSID is invisible ???
[03:47] <jrib> tuxus: ubottu is a bot
[03:47] <leprasmurf> jrib: what would I type to find that?  "apt-cache search mythtv-frontend"?
[03:47] <Alives> is there an official gutsy-hardy upgrade guide?
[03:47] <jrib> leprasmurf: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[03:47] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: is it configued with an ip address, inet_addr is i think what it says
[03:48] <kdorf> anybody gotten pulse to work in ZSNES?
[03:48] <jrib> !upgrade > Alives (read the private message from ubotu)
[03:48] <Alives> thanks!!
[03:48] <wnoiseII> hello people.  have an odd issue with rdesktop, where it will connect to some XP Pro machines, and hang on others on a black screen, with a recurrent error of EAGAIN in strace.  Anyone experienced this?
[03:48] <SitUbuntuSit> kdorf, sadly, not me
[03:48] <rokumanxes> SNES9X is better than zsnes.
[03:48] <jrib> Alives: direct link in the /topic as well
[03:48] <anoble> buzhang: also on the other computer Screenlets doesnt want to launch any widgets
[03:48] <hvgotcodes> is it safe to upgrade to HH?
[03:48] <BillRoth> has there been any trouble with 8.04. Is it work the upgrade?
[03:48] <Aristocles> sourgrape, keyboard flashes on power up, then...nothing.  it's like bios can't finish init, or something.
[03:48] <leprasmurf> jrib: no, just the .21 version
[03:48] <wnoiseII> hvgotcodes: upgrade from GG went without a hitch for me.
[03:49] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  No there isn't one...
[03:49] <itrebal> hvgotcodes: from what I'm seeing, you should give it a few weeks
[03:49] <leprasmurf> jrib: could it be a different repository maybe....?
[03:49] <itrebal> hvgotcodes: 50% of upgrades (~10) have failed
[03:49]  * anoble is restarting
[03:49] <patifa2> BillRoth: Careful with restricted drivers (as usual) and with SATA
[03:49] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: try "ifup wlan0"
[03:49] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: you'll have to sudo that
[03:49] <BillRoth> patifa2: thanks. Looks like I should wait.
[03:49] <xim> is it normal for compiz.real to take 90% of the 2.4ghz cpu if all im running is the cube
[03:49] <`MrMoo-> can anyone help me install drivers for a wireless network card?
[03:49] <sourgrape> aristocles - if you feel comfortable doing it, I'd try booting with the noapic and/or apic = off in your grub config
[03:50] <AndrewBuck> xim: your 3d acceleration probably isn't working
[03:50] <jrib> leprasmurf: maybe, but this is probably not the right way to fix whatever the problem  is
[03:50] <sourgrape> xim - try running glxgears
[03:50] <xim> andrewbuck, im using the nvidia restricted drivers, know how to remedy that
[03:50] <hvgotcodes> itrebal: is that because of server overload or is that because of bugs
[03:50] <Aristocles> sourgrape, i'll give that a go...which one?  noapic or apic=off?
[03:50] <AndrewBuck> xim: no, i am an amd owner, know nothing about nvidia
[03:51] <wnoiseII> xim: have you got more than one monitor?
[03:51] <patifa2> BillRoth: Though the SATA issues shouldn't be a problem if you can successfully run the standard liveCD installer.
[03:51] <itrebal> hvgotcodes: issues installing, not server problems
[03:51] <sourgrape> Aristocles - in my experience, noapic has solved 90% of my problems.  If that doesn't work, try apic=off
[03:51] <Ademan> hey is ubotu dead?
[03:51] <maco> hvgotcodes: server overload mostly...people's upgrades are failing halfway through because they cant finish downloading everything
[03:51] <patifa2> jeez how long is the timeout in freenode?
[03:51] <Sonja> thanks alphakamp_
[03:51] <jrib> Ademan: no, he's on vacation
[03:51] <maco> heh
[03:51] <leprasmurf> jrib: what would you consider the correct resolution?  I'm using knoppmyth backend/frontend and ubuntu for a front-end, because ubuntu has included the .21 version and deprecated the .20 version it's now incompatible with knoppmyth or any distro that uses the .20 version still
[03:51] <maco> hvgotcodes: ok, both
[03:51] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  Um it said "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0"
[03:51] <xim> glx gears is working, no im not using two monitors at the moment, and im on amd64
[03:51] <Aristocles> sourgrape, k.  let's see what happens...
[03:51] <BillRoth> patifa2: thanks.
[03:51] <sourgrape> xim - what FPS is it spitting out in the terminal window?
[03:51] <jrib> leprasmurf: I don't use mythtv, so I don't really know
[03:51] <alphakamp_> Sonja: NP
[03:52] <Ademan> jrib: what was the 'factoid' site again?
[03:52] <xim> sourgrape 900ish
[03:52] <hvgotcodes> ok thanx
[03:52] <maco> hvgotcodes: there's also the fact that a lot of us helpers dont really know our way around hardy as well as we know gutsy at the moment because hardy does quite a few things quite a bit differently
[03:52] <leprasmurf> jrib: well thanks anyway, think I'll manually build mythtv until knoppmyth catches up
[03:52] <xim> which sounds impossible
[03:52] <jrib> Ademan: not available at the moment
[03:52] <sourgrape> xim - you should be getting WAY more than that, looks like (gulp) your 3d isn't working
[03:52] <wigglez> is the ssh server installed by default?
[03:52] <matthias> nobody have tried with ssid invisible ???
[03:52] <Ademan> jrib: you're kidding... :-/
[03:52] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: the network interface config file needs to have an entry for wlan0 then, im not sure where ubuntu keeps that file.  on debian its /etc/network/interfaces
[03:52] <anoble> buzhang: yeah that killed the whole thing
[03:52] <Ademan> jrib: well thanks for the info
[03:52] <xim> sourgrape, way more than 900 fps???
[03:52] <Randomizer> Hi, I'm trying to understand my options of setting up compiz, I've looked at the forums, can't find a good explanation of what is available and what are the limitations of various approaches. I have ati card (X300), non-proprietary drivers and dual-monitors (eveyrthing but compiz is currently configured and working). Thanks for your help.
[03:52] <sourgrape> xim - yea, just in that little window... not your whole screen =)
[03:53] <xim> ah ok
[03:53] <sourgrape> xim - on my piece of crap, non-3d laptop I get 800 or so fps....
[03:53] <anoble> buzhang: ive got large black and white stripes across everything
[03:53] <maco> sourgrape: you cant get technically over what your refresh rate is....
[03:53] <sourgrape> Not sure what glxgears uses as its measuring stick
[03:54] <shthap3ns> can anyone recommend a good partition scheme for RAID1 if i have 2x500gb hard drives?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> sourgrape, glxgears is NOT a benchmark :)
[03:54] <sourgrape> I just know that my nvidia system gets 10k+ in glxgears, and my laptop gets sub-1000
[03:54] <wigglez> default ssh port is 22 right?
[03:54] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  So, how do I find that, and fix it?
[03:54] <anoble> tuxuc: can you help me
[03:54] <anoble> wiggles: yeah i think so
[03:54] <maco> sourgrape, xim: im getting 926-938 fps on glxgears and my 3D is working just fine, thank you very much
[03:54] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[03:54] <sourgrape> 22, sir.
[03:54] <patifa> wigglez: yes
[03:54] <crdlb> sourgrape: the number glxgears gives you is meaningless
[03:54] <wigglez> k
[03:54] <sourgrape> *Shrug* might be, but they're different for me.  First time I've heard they're meaningless
[03:55] <xim> hmm ok, to be honest compiz does seem to be running real poorly tho, i had to get rid of my fishtank and gears
[03:55] <Scunizi> sourgrape: they are just a referance point for YOUR system
[03:55] <crdlb> the only way to check for 3d acceleration is: glxinfo | grep direct
[03:55] <krim_> I've just updated to Hardy and when I clicked the clock the panels stopped responding so I did ctrl+alt+backspace and when x restarted the panels were gone. How do I get them back?
[03:55] <Firedice> sour grapes> mind if i ask you another question about virtual box?
[03:55] <sourgrape> Firedice, fire away
[03:55] <musikgoat> krim_: sudo killall gnome-panel
[03:55] <Firedice> i am getting this error
[03:56] <anoble> can someone help it seems that the driver that is installed isnt what they system is supposed to be using?
[03:56] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  Okay, so it brought something up...  What... do I do?  Sorry, total noob.
[03:56] <maco> krim_: can you hit alt+f2 to get a runbox and type "gnome-panel" in it?
[03:56] <Firedice> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[03:56] <Firedice> VBox status code: -1909 (VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_ACCESSIBLE).
[03:56] <`MrMoo-> can anyone help me install wireless lan drivers? ubuntu doesnt seem to recognize the device as wlan0 doesnt show when i iwconfig
[03:56] <sourgrape> Easy
[03:56] <musikgoat> krim_: does it come back?
[03:56] <sourgrape> Firedice - go to user manager and click groups
[03:56] <sourgrape> firedice - then find the virtualbox gropu and add yourself to it, log off and back on.
[03:56] <anoble> sudo poweroff
[03:56] <Dh08> can someone please help me with home networking?
[03:56] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: thats ok, you need to add a section for wlan0 you should already have one for eth0, is it using dhcp?
[03:56] <anoble> wapz
[03:56] <matthias> anyone have got an lexmakr all in one to work on hardy ???
[03:56] <xim> hmm glxinfo |grep direct says direct rendering is running
[03:56] <Jsn0327> does anyone know if there is a resolution for the root access problem with kbuntu 8.04?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> `MrMoo-, Sometimes wireless interfaces can be 'eth1' or something entirely different like 'ath0' ( for atheros cards )
[03:57] <AcidRain> hey
[03:57] <Dh08> i am trying to set a home network with y 2nd pc (running win xp)
[03:57] <matthias> anyone have got an lexmark all in one printer to work on hardy ?
[03:57] <Knight488> Is there a way to underclock my AMD laptop? It keeps over heating when I'm doing something intensive and crashing on me.
[03:57] <AcidRain> mr moo does it even recognize your card?
[03:57] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  How do I find that out?
[03:57] <krim_> musikgoat: Didn't work.
[03:57] <h00k> Knight488: I'd get your fan looked at - that's dangerous
[03:57] <krim_> maco: the runbox didn't appear
[03:57] <pipegeek> Hmm.  Anyone else having problems with pulseaudio suddenly not responding?
[03:58] <h00k> Knight488: on your processor, your heat-pipe may be cracked also
[03:58] <pipegeek> Seems to have come along with dapper
[03:58] <`MrMoo-> jordan - i see  i see.  wireless networking doesnt show in my networks window though
[03:58] <pipegeek> I wasn't using a sound daemon before
[03:58] <pipegeek> but now, all of a sudden---no sound!
[03:58] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: is there a line something like "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[03:58] <eric84> hello all
[03:58] <musikgoat> krim_: ps -aux | grep "gnome-panel"
[03:58] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)??
[03:58] <Knight488> hook: in windows theres software that manages my CPU speed to keep the heat down, but in hardy it's just blowing full speed all the time and it's heating up too bad. Theres no software I can get to monitor/tweak t his?
[03:58] <patifa> Knight488: Maybe.  Try to CPU Clock Frequency Scaleing applet.
[03:58] <sourgrape> knight - at the very least while you're checking it, you can blow all the dust off the heat sinks - will probably help
[03:58] <musikgoat> anything?
[03:59] <szx0> When using "apt-get" how can I list that possible configuration options for pacakges that I want to install?
[03:59] <patifa> What was the software in windows, Knight488?
[03:59] <fluidd> Anyone here know how to auto-start a script in amarok? is there some kind of syntax?
[03:59] <anoble> can someone help me, i think my video driver courrupts when installing, and right now i cant do anything
[03:59] <szx0> When using "apt-get" how can I list the possible configuration options for pacakges that I want to install?
[03:59] <mstef> is there a problem with 8.04 and core2duo? htop is only showing 1 CPU now??
[03:59] <Knight488> patifa think it's called "Power Now!"
[04:00] <anoble> mstef: no it showed 2 on my Core2Duo
[04:00] <patifa> yeah
[04:00] <krim_> musikgoat: Nothing happened, just a new line
[04:00] <patifa> get the Clock Frequency Scaling applet out, Knight488
[04:00] <musikgoat> ok, in the command line, type gnome-panel
[04:00] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  No...
[04:00] <eric84> during my upgrade to 8.04 my machine locked up; i rebooted and when i login i get a blank desktop background, nothing else... any ideas what i should try next?
[04:00] <h00k> Knight488: I would seriously recommend getting your processor heat-pipe, heat-sink, fan checked out and not resort to "underclocking" it
[04:00] <sourgrape> ah jeez, that bug is back?  do a uname -a
[04:00] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: does it have an eth0 entry at all
[04:00] <rokumanxes> The ifconfig, did yeah.
[04:01] <mstef> anoble, any idea why all of a sudden only one would show up on my system after upgrading?
[04:01] <danbhfive> eric84: can you get to a command prompt?
[04:01] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: i mean in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:01] <krim_> musikgoat: "cannot open display"
[04:01] <shthap3ns> ) has joined #ubuntu
[04:01] <shthap3ns> [19:56] <xim> hmm glxinfo |grep direct says direct rendering
[04:01] <eric84> danbhfive: i can if i boot in recovery mode
[04:01] <sourgrape> mstef - check what kernel you have - I don't know if this would lbe the case for you, but in the past it installed the wrong kernel for me
[04:01] <patifa> h00k: The dynamic underclocking is quite nice, though.  It helps to prolong battery life, for example.
[04:01] <dn4> I believe someone is DOS'in me how do I find out?
[04:01] <sourgrape> mstef - type uname -a
[04:01] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)??
[04:01] <shthap3ns> can anyone recommend a good partition scheme for RAID1 with 2x500gb hard drives?
[04:01] <Knight488> patifa strange, says 800mhz, 44%...
[04:01] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  No.  It doesn't say much.  at all.
[04:01] <anoble> mstef: im not sure, we installed 8.04 on 3 computers 2 running Vista, and one running GG. All Dual Booting, try Screenlets
[04:01] <danbhfive> eric84: do you have net access?
[04:01] <musikgoat> krim_: you may be having this problem,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/204775    if you reboot, and get the updated package in "backports", that should fix it
[04:02] <Firedice> Sourgrapes> I goto system>administration>useres and group> with the user settings up I see my name and the root name everything else is greyed out....when i go into manage group i do see my name and vboxusers but it is also greyed out
[04:02] <anoble> mstef: and sysmonitor and see if it shows 2
[04:02] <Scunizi> I haven't done the upgrade yet.. I've been waiting for the repo traffic to settle down some. What is the general consensus about upgrading via synaptic? Good results? Bad results? faster system at the end?
[04:02] <h00k> patifa: I agree - however a processor should be able to run without overheating
[04:02] <mortuis99> hey all i just upgraded to HH and when i try and play my videos they are jumpy .  they were OK with GG
[04:02] <mortuis99> can someone help
[04:02] <rokumanxes> "auto lo" "iface lo inet loopbacck"
[04:02] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: what does it have for eth0, it must have something or you wouldn't be on the net right now
[04:02] <livingtm> Should I be able to get an extended desktop across two monitors with an intel chipset?
[04:02] <patifa> Knight488: It's doing it's job then to underclock your laptop.
[04:02] <musikgoat> krim_: the problem is with evolution-data-server that is currently in hardy
[04:02] <YouKnowMe> Is there anyway I can run FF 2.0 instead of the beta, until my fav extensions become compatible? nightly tester doesn't work because I can't install them in the first place..
[04:02] <sourgrape> firedice - unlock button
[04:02] <maco> mstef: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu cores"
[04:02] <eric84> danbhfive: yes i do
[04:02] <Knight488> patifa when I do anything it goes up to 1.8, just nothing throttles it down I guess, crap
[04:02] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: is that the whole file?
[04:02] <Jordan_U> YouKnowMe, sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[04:02] <sourgrape> firedice - forgot that's how they do it now
[04:02] <rokumanxes> Yeah.
[04:02] <mstef> maco, no output
[04:03] <patifa> yeah that's how it works Knight488.  When you do stuff it ramps up to take care of it, then as your system idles it scales things back down.
[04:03] <maco> YouKnowMe: you should be able to install them after you have nightly tester
[04:03] <anoble> can someone help me with, video driver problems, ive got a dxdiag up right now
[04:03] <mstef> maco, would it have anything to do with virtualbox by any chance?
[04:03] <krim_> musikgoat: I can't watch the link since I'm in console, but I'll try to restart x again and see if I can do that backports thing
[04:03] <danbhfive> eric84: well, I would try some of these commands myself: sudo apt-get install -f  &&  sudo apt-get upgrade   && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <maco> mstef: are you running inside the virtual machine?
[04:03] <AndrewBuck> try adding      iface wlan0 inet dhcp     on a new line at the bottom and then save and exit the file
[04:03] <Scunizi> anoble: dxdiag is a windows program.. isn't it?
[04:03] <shthap3ns> anyone?
[04:03] <patifa> Knight488: Try clicking the scaler and forcing it to be a slower speed
[04:03] <anoble> Scunizi: yeah im dual booting
[04:03] <Jordan_U> YouKnowMe, You also don't need nightly tester tools any more, there is a simple about:config option ( can't remember it off the top of my head though )
[04:03] <mstef> maco, no but i have xp running in virtualbox now
[04:03] <h00k> Scunizi: it sure is
[04:04] <maco> mstef: then no, that shouldnt affect it
[04:04] <Scunizi> anoble:  so are you looking for windows help?
[04:04] <sourgrape> mstef - VB only "sees" on proc
[04:04] <h00k> Scunizi: DirectX diagnostic
[04:04] <anoble> Scunizi: nope
[04:04] <mstef> maco, so what do i do?
[04:04] <eric84> danbhfive: it says unable to resolve host
[04:04] <maco> mstef: i dont know
[04:04] <sourgrape> mstef - type uname -a and C&P it here
[04:04] <Knight488> patifa: theres no scaler, just shows output
[04:04] <anoble> Scunizi: the problem is in HH, and it wont seem to take my on board Video
[04:04] <danbhfive> eric84: thats a net problem, do you get the same message with sudo apt-get update?
[04:04] <sourgrape> mstef - in a terminal window, sorry
[04:04] <Scunizi> anoble: what kind of video is it?
[04:05] <mstef> sourgrape, Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.24-16-386 #1 Thu Apr 10 12:50:06 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:05] <eric84> danbhfive: yes i do.. i'm plugged directly into my router
[04:05] <cdubya> Just upgraded my system, but can't seem to find where to reassociate the default app handler for DVDs now......
[04:05] <Lapinux> anyone use genpower?  i just installed it and cant seem to find it
[04:05] <anoble> Scunizi: ive got a NVIDIA GeFroce2 Integrated GPU
[04:05] <sourgrape> mstef - you didn't get the SMP kernel, that looks like the uniproc kernel... I'm no expert though
[04:05] <patifa> Knight488: oh yeah, that's right.  The scaler control is shut off for security reasons, on the theory that someone with a malicious program could play games with the timing of the processor and use that to hack the kernel. :)
[04:05] <mortuis99> i just upped to HH and now all the videos that played OK in GG are jumpy.  can someone help?
[04:05] <cdubya> !preferred
[04:05] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)??
[04:05] <Steve1> Not sure how to get my audio to work
[04:05] <cdubya> bah
[04:05] <Scunizi> anoble: that shouldn't be a problem.. Older card?
[04:06] <anoble> Scunizi: not to much older
[04:06] <danbhfive> eric84: how about if you run sudo su?
[04:06] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: were you able to add that line, etc?
[04:06] <mstef> sourgrape, suggestions?
[04:06] <anoble> Scunizi: but HH works with my older older card
[04:06] <eric84> danbhfive: same message
[04:06] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)??
[04:06] <eric84> unable to resolve host Orin (my computer's name)
[04:06] <cdubya> how do I change the default media handler for DVDs to VLC on 8.04
[04:06] <krim> musikgoat: Well, I restarted x and panels magically appeared the second time. Thanks.
[04:06] <danbhfive> eric84: you got the sudo bug, unfortunately, I don't know how to fix that
[04:06] <astro76> !samba | Dh08
[04:06] <Knight488> patifa: theres no other software I could use?
[04:06] <rokumanxes> How do I save it?
[04:06] <Scunizi> anoble: weird.. not an expert on this one so I'm going to defer to someone else.. sorry
[04:06] <yuri_> if I want all windows to be borderless, what do i do?
[04:06] <Steve1> I need help getting my audio to work
[04:06] <anoble> Scunizi: do you know anyone that can help me?
[04:07] <h00k> yuri_: check out VirtualBox and it's "Seemless mode"
[04:07] <sourgrape> mstef - gimme a sec, I've had to do this myself before
[04:07] <Steve1> Anyone available to help?
[04:07] <musikgoat> krim: if you see the issue come back after the next reboot, its the same problem I had,  i identified the bug in beta, but it wasn't fixed till a few days ago
[04:07] <anoble> Scunizi: someone had me install something that installed a driver and killed the system just about its almost un usuable
[04:07] <Scunizi> anoble: just ask again. video is handled differently on HH than on GG or DD.
[04:07] <eric84> danbhfive: i've tried using the live cd to reinstall but i can't get it to boot, it just goes to my failed desktop... any suggestion to do a clean install?
[04:07] <curlyfro> I'm trying to update from 7.10 to 8.X using the update manager.  All seems to go well.  It downloads two files intended to guide me through the update, but then nothing happens.  I just get dumped back to the update-manage.  Any ideas about this?
[04:07] <Randomizer> eric84 - stab in the dark, does sudo -s' work?
[04:07] <Scunizi> anoble: did it work before that?
[04:07] <yuri_> h00k: i meant the window decoration, not the ms operating system
[04:07] <USN1520> howdy folks
[04:07] <musikgoat> krim: you'll find that evolution-data-server being updated fixes the problem
[04:07] <eric84> Randomizer: no
[04:07] <anoble> Scunizi: well yes it did just at 800x600
[04:07] <krim> Anyone still using Gutsy and can tell me what the default font is? I updated to Hardy and the text on some sites is kind of hard to read and ugly.
[04:08] <krim> musikgoat: Thanks for the tip
[04:08] <h00k> yuri_: :) okay
[04:08] <musikgoat> np
[04:08] <c0Ld> can I make VLC play videos in fullscreen but with transparency so that i can keep working while watching them?
[04:08] <anoble> Scunizi: and i want 1024x740
[04:08] <danbhfive> eric84: well, if its not booting the cd, I would assume that has to do with the wrong boot order, which you would need to change in the bios
[04:08] <eric84> danbhfive: i have my cd-rom as first in the order
[04:08] <Scunizi> anoble: you might have a backup of xorg.. if HH is using it.  look in /etc/X11 for xorg.conf and see if there is a backup there.. reinstate the backup
[04:08] <Steve1> Anyone able to help me get my audio working?
[04:09] <Steve1> I've got the driver CD if that's any help
[04:09] <danbhfive> eric84: and its not booting the cd?
[04:09] <anoble> Scunizi: can you lead me through it, ive got 2 computers, im on the one that HH is working ok w/
[04:09] <c0Ld> does ubuntu have some kind of maximum volume control? I have my volume set to 100% (including all of the secondary options as well) and it's still not nearly as loud as I can get it on other OSes :/
[04:09] <DShepherd> what's the 411 with the missing "Shared Folders" in the Admin Menu? is there another way to do it?
[04:09] <Scunizi> anoble: get to a terminal and type cd /etc/X11
[04:09] <firedice> sourgrapes> thankyou for your help...it looks like it is now loading windows xp
[04:09] <USN1520> Scunizi, can't you reset the pkg with dpkg
[04:09] <ferric84> why can't I delete an ext3 partition on my external hdd using gparted?
[04:09] <sourgrape> mstef - you've done the apt-get upgrade already right?  Just to make sure?
[04:09] <stik> umm alt-scroll will change the transparency of a window
[04:09] <eric84> danbhfive: it seems to, once it boots it brings up the ubuntu login screen, i login, and i get the same blank desktop
[04:10] <Scunizi> USN1520: sometimes.. but not with HH.. it's different.
[04:10] <patifa> ferric84: You should.  What's the behavior that's not letting you?
[04:10] <mstef> sourgrape, yes i've upgraded to 8.04
[04:10] <ferric84> patifa: I'm a moron, I had it mounted.  works now
[04:10] <gaspipe1> night all
[04:10] <mstef> sourgrape, i installed linux-386 thought because my audio stopped working..and someone told me to
[04:10] <h00k> c0Ld: check your PCM and see if that's up all the way
[04:10] <anoble> Scunizi: im not even sure that will work, its got the wrong video driver
[04:10] <eric84> danbhfive: it says my home directory does not appear to exist and asks to login with root as my home directory, so i say yes
[04:10] <adamsad1> is it worth running both snort and ossec, or do they both essentially do the same thing?
[04:10] <newperson122> Hey there, im having some difficulty installing my rt73 driver for my usb wireless adapter
[04:10] <sourgrape> mstef - ahh.  You need the 686 version, I'm trying to find it in synaptic now.  It's a different name than it was last time I looked
[04:11] <Scunizi> anoble: if that's the case I'm stuck.... I havent' installed HH yet.. I was just about to pull the trigger on the upgrade.
[04:11] <mstef> sourgrape, ok, thanks
[04:11] <USN1520> newperson122 how are you sitting now
[04:11] <danbhfive> eric84: well, I don't know, but I might be able to help with the hosts problem
[04:11] <sourgrape> mstef - I'm no expert - but as far as I can figure, the i386 was only one proc, and 686 was SMP
[04:11] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  how do I save it?
[04:11] <anoble> Scunizi: wait, i got in there
[04:11] <newperson122> welll im running off the live cd atm, which can connect np's, but when i boot into the installled os, the wireless stops working after 10 minutes or so
[04:11] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: "write out" mans save
[04:11] <guitarthrasher> !ping
[04:11] <eric84> danbhfive: thanks for your help, what would you suggest?
[04:12] <anoble> Scunizi: ok so what am i looking for in there
[04:12] <danbhfive> eric84: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4823775#post4823775
[04:12] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: i think its ctrl+w
[04:12] <Scunizi> anoble: do an "ls" to list the files and look for xorg.conf.back or xorg.conf.<date>
[04:12] <mstef> sourgrape, ok, if youre wrong nothing horrible will happen right? also, it worked fine in 7.x
[04:12] <USN1520> hmmm, wonder what changes after 10 minutes
[04:12] <rokumanxes> Ah, the ^ means ctrl.
[04:13] <rokumanxes> It's ctrl O.
[04:13] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: yep
[04:13] <sourgrape> mstef - yea, when I've done this, I could just boot to the other kernel if I had a problem
[04:13] <anoble> Scunizi: ok found, xorg.conf_backup_200804292248
[04:13] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: once you get it saved try opeing the network settings thing again, it should show up now.
[04:13] <sourgrape> mstef you'd just do it at the grub boot menu, pick the other kernel
[04:13] <mstef> sourgrape, ok thanks..did you find the name?
[04:13] <USN1520> with the adapter installed, I assume it shows up as an adapter in lspci, so it odesnt go away, it just won't maintain a connection?
[04:13] <eric84> danbhfive: thanks, i'll give that a shot
[04:14] <rokumanxes> still no....
[04:14] <Aristocles> sourgrape, well, that didn't work. lol
[04:14] <Scunizi> anoble: ok.. you could try "sudo mv xorg.conf_backup_200804292248 xorg.conf"
[04:14] <Aristocles> thanks anyway
[04:14] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: try "sudo ifup wlan0" on the terminal
[04:14] <sourgrape> mstef - It's not called 686 anymore, it looks like it is called linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic
[04:14] <Aristocles> has anyone used a usb drive to boot linux?
[04:14] <shthap3ns> can anyone recommend a good partition scheme for RAID1 with 2x500gb hard drives?
[04:15] <anoble> Scunizi: nv command not found
[04:15] <mstef> k ill try it out
[04:15] <mstef> thanks alot
[04:15] <DATmafia> shthap3ns i prefer a mirror raid 1
[04:15] <rokumanxes> It spat info at me!  How rude.  Err..
[04:15] <Scunizi> anoble: not nv.. but .. mv
[04:15] <rokumanxes> Hold on a moment...
[04:15] <anoble> Scunizi: and how do i know it worked/
[04:15] <eric84> danbhfive: same error heh =\
[04:15] <DATmafia> shthap3ns it's that slow and you're not sacrificing speed for reliability, IMO
[04:15] <anoble> ?*
[04:16] <mortuis99> i uppgraded to HH from GG and now when i try and play videos they are jumpy.  can someone give me some ideas to solve this?
[04:16] <shthap3ns> DATmafia: that's what i'm doing, but i'm trying to figure out how to partition the drives
[04:16] <Scunizi> anoble: restart X with CTRL+ALT+backspace.. you'll have to log on again and get back on irc
[04:16] <legends311> hi all
[04:16] <mstef> sourgrape, can i uninstall the thousand of other images installed?
[04:16] <DATmafia> shthap3ns oh, from within the  install wizard?
[04:16] <krim> I solved the ugly fonts in Firefox 3 issue. If anyone cares to know I stopped allowing pages to choose their own fonts in preferences -> content -> advanced
[04:16] <anoble> Scunizi: im on a different computer for irc
[04:16] <Steve1> Anyone have time to help me get my audio working?
[04:16] <sourgrape> aristocles - heh I mean, it makes sense that the restart isn't shutting something down right, or not flushing something, or forgetting to flush the toilet...
[04:16] <Scunizi> anoble: ah .. k.. then just reboot
[04:16] <shthap3ns> DATmafia: yeah, i'm installing 8.04 server
[04:17] <sourgrape> mstef - Just don't install the one you're using right now
[04:17] <sourgrape> mstef - UNinstall, I mean
[04:17] <danbhfive> eric84: well, if you are sure you did it right, then I'm all out of ideas.  You can pastebin your hosts file if you want me to check
[04:17] <krim> Steve1: Just write whatever you'd write if someone said yes and see if anyone is able to help you.
[04:17] <Luckrider> how do I view a folder as super user, I keep forgetting the command
[04:17] <Luckrider> ?
[04:18] <shthap3ns> DATmafia: right now i have a 2.7gb swap/497.4gb raid on each drive
[04:18] <furicle> shthap3ns: What are you using it for?  mysql needs different stuff than a media machine for instance....  important part would be to use LVM and only assign half of it or so,then it's easy to change later
[04:18] <Starnestommy> Luckrider: gksudo nautilus
[04:18] <shthap3ns> i'm using it as a fileserver
[04:18] <eric84> danbhfive: i double checked all the commands and they're good, thanks for your help, i'll dig through the forums some more
[04:18] <Knight488> is there a good program someone can reccomend for hardy to do more advanced key bindings, like making it so pushing h types "hi"?
[04:18] <Luckrider> thanks stanestommy
[04:18] <Luckrider> *starnestommy
[04:18] <anoble> Scunizi: what does not in use mean?
[04:18] <Scunizi> anoble: in what context
[04:19] <anoble> Scunizi: Nvidia Accelerated graphics Driver [ ] (Red Circle) Not in use
[04:19] <anoble> Scunizi: in Hardware Drivers
[04:19] <DATmafia> shthap3ns did u create the partitians in the Hardware RAID config?
[04:20] <h00k> anoble: your Restricted drivers?
[04:20] <anoble> Scunizi: yeah
[04:20] <AndrewBuck> rokumanxes: you still there?
[04:20] <JohnnyWells> Everytime I log in, the network manager requests access to the default key ring, and I get prompted for a password.  Can anyone tell me how to make it stop doing this?
[04:20] <Scunizi> anoble: ah.! that means you're back to the standard drivers.. if you want to initiate the restricted drivers do so.
[04:20] <h00k> anoble: you can disable it, then re-enable it, and it should download the drivers, you'll need to reboot
[04:20] <shthap3ns> DATmafia: no, i was told not to use hardware raid, since i have "fakeraid", and to use software raid instead
[04:20] <h00k> anoble: and they should then be "In Use"
[04:20] <anoble> Scunizi: yeah i did this, but then it makes the system freak
[04:20] <anoble> ill take a screenshot
[04:21] <Luckrider> thanks again Starnestommy, i always forget (this time, I left myself a sticky note on my desktop)
[04:21] <JohnnyWells> Anyone?
[04:21] <DATmafia> shthap3ns ok, so then generally it's a matter of changing a file, 1 sec
[04:21] <Scunizi> anoble: you might want to leave it where it is until things get sorted out.. I'll be lost from here.
[04:21] <anoble> Scunizi: should i wait for an update?
[04:21] <USN1520> JohnnyWells there is an atricle in the forum to fix this
[04:21] <Scunizi> anoble: or until someone else can walk you through the rest.
[04:21] <xim> shthap3ns were you trying to talk to me?  you quoted something i said
 [19:56] <xim> hmm glxinfo |grep direct says direct rendering
[04:21] <anoble> h00k: can you help me?
[04:22] <USN1520> search PAM keyring
[04:22] <shthap3ns> xim: accident, sorry!
[04:22] <mortuis99> i just uppgraded to HH from GG and now all of my videos are jumpy can someone please help me?
[04:22] <xim> np
[04:22] <anoble> Scunizi: thnaks for taking your time : )
[04:22] <JohnnyWells> USN1520, I know.  I couldn't remember what it was though, and I did a search
[04:22] <Scunizi> anoble: well at least I got you back to square 1. good luck
[04:22] <anoble> Scunizi: greatly appreciated that you atleast helped
[04:22] <h00k> anoble: you disabled it, and then re-enabled it?
[04:22] <anoble> h00k: yes ill do that now and restart it
[04:22] <h00k> anoble: I'm trying to remember what I did to get mine to work...I have nVidia
[04:23] <h00k> anoble: I think that's all I did
[04:23] <mstef> sourgrape, hey sorry to bother you again..but how do you rebuilt the grub menu config file? i screwed it up
[04:23] <anoble> h00k: yeah but mine freaks out
[04:23] <h00k> anoble: disable, enable, then it should download the driver
[04:23] <YouKnowMe> maco, I get the warning message about installing it, then it does, then FF tells me its incompatible like it always does and its not installed.
[04:23] <anoble> h00k: well its restarting now
[04:23] <eboyjr> Does anyone know what time I joined this channel?
[04:23] <mortuis99> H00K how do u disable then enable?
[04:23] <firedice> this is teh first version of ubuntu\linux that i have tried....has ubuntu become more user friendly or does it have a little more to go for more people to switch to it?
[04:24] <sourgrape> mstef - see if there is a backup of it
[04:24] <mstef> whats the path again?
[04:24] <USN1520> JohnnyWells, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463639&highlight=keyring+nagging
[04:24] <sourgrape> mstef /boot/grub
[04:24] <anoble> h00k: yeah its going to have the same problem
[04:24] <JohnnyWells> USN1520, thanks
[04:24] <anoble> h00k: want a screenshot?
[04:25] <simone> Hi, I followed the instructions on the "MacBook" wiki page to try and use xmodmap to bind the lower left enter key to right-click but it won't work.  I've set the command "xmodmap .xmodmap" to run at startup and restarted X11 and everything
[04:25] <h00k> mortuis99, anoble: try updating your packages, and them upgrading
[04:25] <furicle> shthap3ns: It's a little simplistic - but I'd have /boot, /var/log and / each in separate partitions, then make something like /data or /files or whatever as your file share in it's on partition.
[04:25] <JohnnyWells> Whenever I shut down my computer, the usplash turns multicolored and rainbow-y.  It doesn't do this on boot.  Is there something wrong with the splash or is there a way I can fix this?
[04:25] <anoble> h00k: yeah i did this already
[04:25] <h00k> hm
[04:25] <eboyjr> I stated downloading an iso about two hours ago and now... its only 34% done.. can I check download speed history or something with ubuntu 7.10?
[04:25] <eboyjr> started*
[04:26] <rokumanxes> AndrewBuck:  Nothing...  You still there?
[04:26] <anoble> h00k: yeah it froze
[04:26] <h00k> anoble: did you install linux-restricted-modules-(kernel here) ?
[04:26] <newperson122> Hey how do i install the nm-applet after i do a fresh install of gutsy?
[04:26] <newperson122> *remove i mean
[04:26] <anoble> h00k: that i did not i dont think
[04:26] <newperson122> not install
[04:26] <USN1520> newperson122 right click on the panel and select add to panel
[04:26] <h00k> anoble: get the right ones for the kernel you have
[04:26] <sourgrape> mstef - in a terminal, type "sudo update-grub"
[04:26] <patifa> rokumanxes: AndrewBuck left.
[04:27] <h00k> anoble: I just did this like a week or so ago, and I forget :/
[04:27] <rokumanxes> Really?  Crap...
[04:27] <shthap3ns> furicle: which ones would i set to RAID?
[04:27] <anoble> h00k: how did i get the right one?
[04:27] <rokumanxes> Can anyone help me with connecting to my wifi?
[04:27] <rokumanxes> I did it last night, but now it's not working at all....
[04:27] <newperson122> oh i mean how do i remove nm-applet, sorry
[04:27] <newperson122> so that it doesnt load everytime i boot either
[04:27] <h00k> anoble: do 'uname -r' in a terminal to see your kernel
[04:27] <USN1520> newperson122, right click remove
[04:27] <patifa> man I must be fortunate, my wireless worked out-of-the-box :\
[04:27] <newperson122> theres no "remove" option
[04:28] <sourgrape> linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[04:28] <h00k> sourcode: that works too, thanks :D
[04:28] <USN1520> newperson122, you are right doesn
[04:28] <newperson122> only "Enable networking" "Enable Wirless"
[04:28] <eboyjr> Does the download speed on Ubuntu lower or stop when the computer is idle?
[04:28] <anoble> 2.6.24-16-generic
[04:28] <x45> can i burn wine to a cd and install it on a different ubuntu machine?
[04:28] <USN1520> what if you uncheck both
[04:28] <anoble> h00k: yeah its really ... now
[04:28] <rokumanxes> Well, it was all fine, but now it's like...  when I click the network icon, it automatically goes to Connection Properties, instead of the dropdown menu it had....
[04:28] <rokumanxes> Any ideas?
[04:29] <patifa> eboyjr: I could think of an example of that with poorly configured frequency scaling
[04:29] <anoble> h00k: any way i can boot right to terminal?
[04:29] <newperson122> its jsut that for my rt73 driver, it doesnt play well with nm-applet, so just trying to stop nm-applet loading
[04:29] <earthling> x45: you can try aptoncd
[04:29] <furicle> shthap3ns: Sorry - thought you were building everything on a RAID 1...   eg DISK->RAID1->LVM -  why not RAID all of it?
[04:29] <x45> earthling, whats that?
[04:29] <sourgrape> rokumanxes - just if it didn't have the driver correctly installed is all I can think of
[04:29] <h00k> anoble: you can change your session type at your login window
[04:29] <eboyjr> patifa, What's frequency scaling again?
[04:29] <eboyjr> =p
[04:29] <rokumanxes> I got that all taken care of last night.
[04:29] <earthling> well it helps creating repository cds
[04:29] <USN1520> dunno I always need it
[04:30] <h00k> eboyjr: that's what speed your processor(s) are running
[04:30] <anoble> h00k: wont even get to the there
[04:30] <USN1520> what does the applet have to do with it
[04:30] <rokumanxes> The battery died, and it didn't shut down right, and now it's all weird.
[04:30] <eboyjr> h00k, Oh, thats right.
[04:30] <shthap3ns> furicle: so would my current setup of raid(497GB)+swap(2.7GB) on both drives be alright?
[04:30] <eboyjr> thx
[04:30] <patifa> eboyjr: New system where your processor can be underclocked on the fly to conserve power.  I had screwy one of those programs that controlled it in windows which would cause stuff to go bonkers :)
[04:30] <anoble> h00k: yeah well im in recov and in Dropped to Root shell promt
[04:31] <earthling> x45: it helps creating repositoy cds which can be used to install from later rather than downloading the softwares again from synaptic
[04:31] <h00k> anoble: yeah, recovery mode will do that, too
[04:31] <eboyjr> hah
[04:31] <h00k> anoble: that did not work?
[04:31] <h00k> anoble: the linux-restricted-modules...
[04:31] <furicle> shthap3ns: I would think so - just use the RAID array for LVM....   Note - I haven't booted Hardy from LVM on RAID, but Debian does it ok so I don't why Hardy won't...  Anybody think I'm out to lunch here?
[04:31] <x45> earthling, sounds good
[04:31] <anoble> h00k: im cant get to them
[04:31] <vwbusguy> So I've heard a rumor that 8.04 doesn't need it's own partition?
[04:31] <rokumanxes> Anyone know why it gives an error when I click configure in connection properties?
[04:31] <sourgrape> anoble - google "grub runlevel 3"
[04:32] <eboyjr> Is 32 KB - 62 KB /sec a good speed for downloads?
[04:32] <USN1520> eboyjr not really
[04:32] <furicle> shthap3ns: why 2.7G swap anyway?  sounds like an odd number
[04:32] <rokumanxes> It's not amazing, but it's sufficient.
[04:32] <USN1520> what type of connection
[04:32] <patifa> eboyjr: Depends on what you have.
[04:32] <Vlet> eboyjr: depends on your internet connection
[04:32] <h00k> dito ^
[04:32] <earthling> x45: yup
[04:32] <shthap3ns> it was default
[04:32] <anoble> h00k: im cant get to them as im not using an internet connection
[04:32] <anoble> h00k: on that computer..
[04:33] <eboyjr> USN1520, patifa, Vlet, Its cable
[04:33] <h00k> anoble: OOooooh -- that'll do it
[04:33] <rokumanxes> Any connection I click to configure gives me an error about.. interface, or something...
[04:33] <furicle> shthap3ns: twice RAM?  just curious
[04:33] <USN1520> yeah that sucks
[04:33] <h00k> anoble: can you get the package from another machine and burn to cd or put on thumbdrive?
[04:33] <USN1520> I get 250+ on cable
[04:33] <USN1520> choose another mirror
[04:33] <sourgrape> use torrents
[04:33] <sourgrape> esp for ISOs
[04:33] <vwbusguy> mirrors.kernel.org is usually fast
[04:33] <USN1520> sourgrape is right
[04:33] <Vlet> rokumanxes: what's the error?
[04:33] <patifa> Isn't cox cable one of the throttler ISPs?
[04:33] <eboyjr> USN1520, Okay... ( even if I have 36% done already? )
[04:34] <h00k> patifa: which one isn't, these days :/
[04:34] <shthap3ns> furicle: well, the first time i installed ubuntu, i used "fake raid" (through the mobo's BIOS). i did the guided install and it gave me a 2.7gb swap by default
[04:34] <USN1520> yeah it will save time to use torrents
[04:34] <sourgrape> eboy - yea, if you get a torrent or a better mirror that won't take long to get back
[04:34] <USN1520> less prone for errors too
[04:34] <patifa> h00k: Apparently not mine... yet.
[04:34] <shthap3ns> furicle: i have 1gb of ram
[04:34] <h00k> patifa: which is that?
[04:34] <patifa> Rural independent cable service provider
[04:34] <USN1520> eboyjr, I may be wrong but torrent is pretty solid
[04:34] <h00k> patifa: rock on.
[04:34] <anoble> h00k: how do i overwrite with the backup file?
[04:35] <earthling> rokumanxes: what is the output of iwconfig?
[04:35] <CUBeR64> hi everyone, i'd just like to ask if the creative zen stone 1gb allows booting?
[04:35] <anoble> h00k: something with a mv or w/e
[04:35] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone. i can't get apache to start. tried /etc/init.d/apache2 start. it tells me OK and gives me no error messages but nothing actually runs. any ideas?
[04:35] <sourgrape> anoble, probably have to put sudo in front of the command
[04:35] <h00k> anoble: cp
[04:35] <eboyjr> Its hard to tell where the mirrors are when you download Ubuntu, its poorly done
[04:35] <h00k> anoble: cp 'filename' 'destination'
[04:35] <USN1520> how so?
[04:35] <anoble> h00k: k
[04:35] <patifa> DrUnKnMuNkY: Try #ubuntu-server (is that an official channel?)
[04:36] <USN1520> eboyjr, at the bottom of the webpage select view all mirrors
[04:36] <anoble> h00k: but the command that someone else gave me had like a mv in it
[04:36] <fde> eboyjr: It's designed that way to make it less confusing for you...
[04:36] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: you're supposed to use: sudo apache2ctl start
[04:36] <fde> patifa: yup
[04:36] <h00k> anoble: mv will move it, like "cut"
[04:36] <CUBeR64> hi everyone, i'd just like to ask if the creative zen stone 1gb allows booting of the ubuntu 8.04 livecd
[04:36] <sourgrape> that's right, it's like cut... where cp is copy
[04:36] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: well, using what you did is fine, but apache2ctl is what's recommended
[04:36] <shthap3ns> furicle: i'm gonna have to bother you with one more question (im actually quite the linux noob): number of active devices = 2, number of spare devices = 0 is correct, right?
[04:37] <USN1520> CUBe64 I dont even know what that is, sorry
[04:37] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Vlet: that doesn't work either.
[04:37] <patifa> CUBeR64: Huh?
[04:37] <eboyjr> jde, USN1520, I dont even know what state each of the mirrors are in in the US... I just picked Mexico because I am pretty close to them. :)
[04:37] <sourgrape> Cube - the MP3 player?
[04:37] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: well, what's the error?
[04:37] <USN1520> where are you at
[04:37] <CUBeR64> yes sourgrape
[04:37] <yrlnry> I upgraded to HH this afternoon.  Since the upgrade, when I select a URL in gnome-terminal and then pick the "open this link" menu item, the link doesn't open in my browser.  Instead, I get a dialog that says "Could not open the address "http://...":  There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location."   How can I fix this, or find out what the "error" was?
[04:37] <newperson122> Hey gparted keeps giving me this in dmesg | tail :  program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO, ive also noticed it crashes alot :S
[04:37] <eboyjr> USN1520, Las Vegas, NV ( Southern Nevada )
[04:37] <fde> eboyjr: archive.<country_code>.ubuntu.com performs some magic to redirect you to your fastest local mirror...
[04:37] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: oh sorry, it gives none... check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[04:37] <sourgrape> Cube - NO idea on that one, probably have to google or put it in the forums.
[04:38] <anoble> yrlnry: this happeds in Windows
[04:38] <anoble> yrlnry: i get that in Windows 2
[04:38] <CUBeR64> sourgrape: alrighty, thanks
[04:38] <sourgrape> Cube - but post it in the forums if you DO get it working, that sounds like fun :)
[04:38] <billy> did they ever add support for the 160gb ipod's?
[04:38] <patifa> just roll the dice on a US server if you live in the US.  The layout of the internet in the US will make more of a difference than the city it's in relative to your own from within the continental US.
[04:38] <firedice> With virtual box can i set up my video driver for my nvidia 8800gt?
[04:38] <anoble> h00k: yeah none of these worked :/
[04:38] <yrlnry> anoble: thanks!  that fixed my problem!
[04:38] <Judeglass> so... i have this USB stick that i installed hardy heron from... i used another hardy box to create it. the stick mounts fine on the original hardy box and on my MacBook Pro. it is a fat32 volume.
[04:38] <USN1520> eboyjr, pick one it doesnt matter and download the torrent file...it is really small
[04:39] <Judeglass> but it won't mount on this new Hardy machine
[04:39] <sourgrape> firedice - the VB uses a virtual device driver
[04:39] <USN1520> eboyjr, then open with your torrent client and viola
[04:39] <anoble> yrlnry: sarcasm?
[04:39] <h00k> anoble: where are you trying to copy them from?
[04:39] <sourgrape> firedice - the best you can do is to install the VB tools
[04:39] <fde> Oh, he's not that far yet... sorry
[04:39] <yrlnry> anoble: No!
[04:39] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Vlet: a few errors in there that I should be able to fix. thanks
[04:39] <anoble> h00k: /etc/X11
[04:39] <Judeglass> i installed the Hardy on this problem machine from this same USB stick
[04:39] <anoble> yrlnry: right ....
[04:39] <eboyjr> USN1520, Alright, th
[04:39] <eboyjr> x
[04:39] <yrlnry> anoble: WHen you said that, I realized that the problem was that HH had installed Firefox 3, and that the terminal program wants to use the default browser, which is FF2, which is no longer present since the upgrade.
[04:40] <kingsley_zissou> issue: fresh install of HH on my toshiba lappy, is there a work-around to use glx? or a way to get mobility radeon 9000/9100 IGP to render 3D on HH? had no issues on GG.
[04:40] <yrlnry> anoble: so I told FF3 to make itself the default browser, and the problem went away.
[04:40] <h00k> anoble: are you trying to edit your xorg.conf ?
[04:40] <anoble> yrlnry: oh, well glad i helped : )
[04:40] <Judeglass> i get a message: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'USB_Stick'
[04:40] <Judeglass> (thats what i named it)
[04:40] <Judeglass> original  i know
[04:40] <firedice> sourgrape> do you set up the tools inside of vb?
[04:40] <anoble> h00k: im trying to over right with the backup
[04:40] <USN1520> I am out yall...good night
[04:40] <h00k> anoble: gotcha
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: you can do 'mv xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.old'
[04:41] <anoble> h00k: and cp didnt work
[04:41] <eboyjr> Where do I find the torrent file for the mirrors?
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: do mv instead
[04:41] <x45> I've got an ubuntu pc that crashe's like its job almost every 5-10 minutes out of the blue, is it the hardware doing this?
[04:41] <sourgrape> firedice - I think it's the "tools" menu - gimme a sec to fire mine up
[04:41] <anoble> h00k: lol k
[04:41] <Judeglass> any ideas as to where i should look to find out how it is being mounted?
[04:41] <patifa> the torrent file doesn't download from the 'mirrors'
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: mv xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.old
[04:41] <patifa> unless you just mean the .torrent file, which is only a couple hundred kilobytes at most
[04:41] <kingsley_zissou> sorry got disconnected. did anybody address my ati 9100 question?
[04:42] <h00k> anoble: shoot - if you did that, do 'mv xorg.conf.old xorg.conf'
[04:42] <eboyjr> patifa, I need a torrent for 8.04 in the US
[04:42] <angryatheron> i upgraded to HH on my hp laptop and now when using wireless I get some total hard freezes... cap and num lock lights flash on and off, screen stays on, mouse frozen, nothing will come back... has anyone else had a similar experience?  I can't figure out what is going on and it is driving me crazy
[04:42] <firedice> sourgrape> what is thsi vb tools your talking about?
[04:42] <genii> eboyjr: The nature of torrents makes them international by default
[04:42] <patifa> eboyjr: What do you mean by a 'torrent'?  Do you mean the torrent hash file or the place all the actual ISO data comes from?
[04:42] <sourgrape> firedice - looking at mine - it's just some utilities
[04:42] <shthap3ns> anyone: for a fileserver, recommend ext3 or XFS?
[04:43] <eboyjr> genii, Ohh, thats right lol
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: its restarting
[04:43] <h00k> anoble: okay - I hope this works :)
[04:43] <patifa> Yeah, what genii said.  The torrent download comes from a pool of everyone else who's downloading it at the same time with bittorrent.
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: well i hope this gets us to square 1 again
[04:43] <eboyjr> patifa, So I can use BitTorrent or something to get the ubuntu iso
[04:43] <furicle> shthap3ns: yep - two devices assigned in the array and no hot spares.
[04:43] <h00k> anoble: yeah, that's what I mean
[04:43] <oddalot> hi, how do i get rid of the login screen at startup?
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: bec as of atm i cant even login :/
[04:44] <fde> shthap3ns: Actually, for the directory the files are in - if they're large files, I'd recommend XFS... but for the rest of the system, ext3 as it's more general purpose.
[04:44] <shthap3ns> furicle: thanks for your help, much appreciated!
[04:44] <kingsley_zissou> l
[04:44] <anoble> h00k: .. didnt work
[04:44] <h00k> anoble: can you get the package on a thumbdrive at all? or that machine on the net?
[04:44] <patifa> eboyjr: yes.  You'll need a bittorrent client and the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent file
[04:44] <pingu_> ok guys just got the new version and having trouble with the wireless internet any help
[04:44] <skinnymg1> how do i loggin as root
[04:44] <anoble> h00k: well i can unplug this one and do it ..
[04:44] <Vlet> shthap3ns: from what I've gathered, xfs only presents an advantage when there are lots of small files
[04:44] <h00k> anoble: ooooo.... :S
[04:44] <shthap3ns> fde: mostly storing documents, excel sheets, etc
[04:45] <shthap3ns> v1et: perfect, thanks :)
[04:45] <eboyjr> patifa, Good, I found that exact file
[04:45] <eboyjr> thanks
[04:45] <eboyjr> :)
[04:45] <kyncani> oddalot: the graphical login screen ? want autologin or no graphical login at all ?
[04:45] <patifa> eboyjr: you got a bittorrent client?
[04:45] <Vlet> shthap3ns: accent on the "lots"
[04:45] <h00k> anoble: can you get privmsgs?
[04:45] <sourgrape> firedice - with the virtual machine running, go to "Devices" then "install guest additions"
[04:45] <pingu_> anyone?
[04:45] <oddalot> no login at all, just go to my one user
[04:45] <furicle> shthap3ns: de nada
[04:45] <fde> shthap3ns: It depends on the size, too small, and you might as well use ext3...
[04:45] <eboyjr> patifa, Yeh, I'll just use BitTorrent
[04:45] <furicle> \away
[04:45] <anoble> h00k: well i might be able to apt-get ircd or something that runs in terminal
[04:46]  * furicle produces irc idiot alert
[04:46] <h00k> anoble: boot into safe mode again, and ls /etc/X11
[04:46] <IdleOne> !ot | furicle
[04:46] <legend2440> oddalot: system>administration>login window>security>enable auto login
[04:46] <patifa> there you go eboyjr.  Just open up the .torrent file in the BitTorrent program and wait for it to get rolling.  Should be quite fast once it gets cranking.
[04:46] <kyncani> oddalot: you want autologin, i think the gdmsetup tool allow you to configure that (/etc/gdm/gdm.conf)
[04:46] <fde> shthap3ns: I'd probably suggest going with ext3, and if you think there is a hardware bottleneck, leave some space for XFS later, and mount that to wherever...
[04:46] <BROOM> /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[04:46] <oddalot> thanks legend2440
[04:46] <pingu_> ok guys just got the new version and having trouble with the wireless internet any help
[04:46] <wgaryg> hi
[04:46] <shthap3ns> fde: thanks. i think i'll do that
[04:47] <eboyjr> wow! 200 KB/s !! awesome
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: well the backup went away now there is only the reg one
[04:47] <kingsley_zissou> Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[04:47] <h00k> anoble: no xorg.conf.1 or anything?
[04:47] <fde> shthap3ns: More than welcome!
[04:47] <wgaryg> has anyone here had any experience with Cingular 865 Air Cards?
[04:47] <Vlet> pingu_: specific questions help
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: nope :/
[04:47] <h00k> anoble: what card do you have? what res?
[04:47] <eboyjr> Only 700000 more to go
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: uhm GeForce2
[04:48] <root> d
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: on board
[04:48] <patifa> eboyjr: just do everyone a favor and leave it open after the download finishes for awhile.  You're downloading from other people who are downloading it on bittorrent.  If you leave it running for a little while, you'll upload bits and pieces of the ISO to others :)
[04:48] <h00k> anoble: I can pastebin you my xorg.conf
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: ran a dxdaig on it
[04:48] <root> q
[04:48] <eboyjr> patifa, Thats seeding, right?
[04:48] <patifa> yes
[04:48] <Mimi> QUESTION:    how do I record audio output from any app? Audacity isnt doing it ;p
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: ha! failsafe terminal failed 2
[04:48] <eboyjr> sure i will
[04:48] <Mimi> I can try other apps. if theyre easy the better
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: WHA?
[04:49] <kingsley_zissou> « /msg ubottu etiquette »
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: ^o) I didn't know that could happen.
[04:49] <furicle> OK - what's !ot ?   me irc dummy
[04:49] <anoble> h00k: yeah wont even boot to failsafe terminal wont even work
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: what error?
[04:49] <sourgrape> h00k - have anoble back up the xorg.conf, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:49] <roshane> hey all, i'm new to Linux but i'm learning
[04:49] <dan_> #townsquare
[04:49] <anoble> h00k: the one where it doesnt show any
[04:49] <sourgrape> h00k - then maybe point him/her to envy ng ?
[04:50] <roshane> interested in learning how to do installations
[04:50] <anoble> h00k: and just the Ubuntu Color and a White box that is small and doesnt do anything
[04:50] <Scunizi> !envy | sourgrape h00k
[04:50] <Mimi>  :3 What do you guys use to easiliy record audio from any application? (not microphone)
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> on a further note: upgrades will probably break.
[04:51] <thebitguru> Hi, I cannot remap Alt+right click to resize window when using compiz.  Something keeps changing it to Button2 when I set it to Alt+button3.  Any ideas?
[04:51] <pingu_> vlet: ah i have set up the wireless connect i.e. the name and password and type. and it still wont connect
[04:52] <anoble> sourgrape: do i need internet for that?
[04:52] <roshane> i did an installation and when it was through, i couldnt find it
[04:52] <sourgrape> For the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you don't
[04:52] <sourgrape> anoble - that should at least get you working in X again
[04:52] <roshane> an animated wallpaper, does anyone know how to get one and also a cool dock...i'm a new user
[04:53] <rnartos> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is this the fix for my problem in intel 945GM detection in ubuntu 8.04??
[04:53] <r3b> hello, I just installed the linux-server package, after rebooting, the proprietary NVIDIA driver no longer works (I have to use the generic 'nv' driver). any way to fix this?
[04:53] <sourgrape> rnartos - I'm not sure what your problem is, sorry
[04:53] <ferric84> I have an ntfs external hard drive... can I delete the "RECYCLER" folder without issue?
[04:53] <kingsley_zissou> Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[04:53] <anoble> sourgrape: use kernal framebuffer interface?
[04:53] <Scunizi> r3b, look in synaptic for the restricted drivers ending in -server..
[04:53] <fujin> How can I adjust $PATH system wide?
[04:53] <bazhang> roshane you should look into awn avant window navigator for dock; and compiz has an animated wp plugin iirc
[04:54] <r3b> Scunizi: thanks, will do
[04:54] <sourgrape> anoble - I'm a little late to the party - have you tried 'nv' - you have a geforce 2 right?  Probably a "go" verison, you said it was built in
[04:54] <rnartos> sourgrape:  one thing more why xorg.conf doesn't show the details of my current configured video card.. it just show  "configuration for current video card" ...etc
[04:54] <patifa> ferric84: I delete it once.  When I took the drive to a windows computer it regenerated.
[04:54] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i have the go version
[04:54] <Scunizi> r3b, it's also the only way to get wireless working with the atheros chipset as well
[04:54] <sourgrape> anoble - try NV first
[04:54] <rnartos> no  more Option "####" "###"
[04:54] <ferric84> patifa: thanks
[04:55] <anoble> sourgrape: whats the command nv?
[04:55] <rnartos> nor driver intel
[04:55] <roshane> bazhang, i'm not sure how to do all that...a very new user
[04:55] <anoble> sourgrape: or there site?
[04:55] <patifa> ferric84: Just don't go deleting $blah$ files
[04:55] <sourgrape> anoble - in a terminal window, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <ferric84> patifa: are those ubuntu?
[04:55] <DrifterSX> hardy heron is pretty radical
[04:55] <rnartos> sourgrape: so how can I configure my video card right now in ubuntu 8.04?
[04:55] <bazhang> roshane I have to step out for a bit; mention to others here that you want awn and the compiz plugin for wallpapers --animated and they can help you no doubt
[04:55] <patifa> Well, one of them for example is an NTFS journaling file or something
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: k done
[04:56] <sourgrape> anoble - it should go through a few screens
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: restart?
[04:56] <roshane> yeah man, thanks
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i went through them
[04:56] <rnartos> sourgrape: xorg.conf not showing the detaild configs as before
[04:56] <r3b> Scunizi: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-server  that looks like the one, eh?
[04:56] <sourgrape> anoble - wow that was fast.. ok yea, try a restart
[04:56] <Scunizi> r3b, yep
[04:56] <sourgrape> rnartos - I'm not sure, have you recently reconfigured or changed something?
[04:56] <r3b> Scunizi: thanks again
[04:56] <Scunizi> r3b, np
[04:57] <anoble> sourgrape: well i was doing it like 20 seconds before you said to bec you said erlier to do it
[04:57] <newperson122> Hey when installing from the live cd, how do i have it so it doesnt try to "scan the mirror" because im on dial up speed, and i can never find out how to get the installer not to do this, because it always takes like at least an hour or so
[04:57] <sourgrape> anoble ah =)  Faster thinker than I am (Not that it's hard to do)
[04:57] <rnartos> sourgrape: after I install ubuntu... the xorg.conf only shows.. under device  "configured for current video card"
[04:58] <rnartos> sourgrape: in lspci it shows my current video card "Intel 945GM"
[04:58] <sourgrape> rnartos - what specific problem is this causing you?
[04:58] <anoble> sourgrape: haha yeah BS! i cant even get this to run on my own though this is my first day of REALLY using linux
[04:58] <r3b> Scunizi: gonna test it out, if you don't see me again, that's probly a good thing :P
[04:58] <Scunizi> r3b, :)
[04:58] <yrlnry> I just upgraded to HH.  I find that I can't sudo anymore; it now says "sudo: unable to resolve host mjd-laptop".  Any way to fix this without rebooting into single-user more?
[04:58] <yrlnry> mode?
[04:58] <rnartos> sourgrape: nothing much just wanted to know if my video card is configured or detected correctly
[04:58] <anoble> sourgrape: hmm looks like it all died X________X
[04:59] <sourgrape> rnartos - ah.  Well does everything look purty when you're in gnome or KDE?
[04:59] <ubuntuROX> Anyone else have multiple USB Drives listed under Places / Computer? even when there are no usb devices plugged in?
[04:59] <earthling> roshane: try this link helps in setting dock and other cool stuff  blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/10/21/making-ubuntu-710-gutsy-look-slicker/
[04:59] <rnartos> gnome
[04:59] <newperson122> how do you get the live cd installer to not try to check for updates or anything when installing ubuntu?
[04:59] <rnartos> sourgrape: gnome
[04:59] <DrifterSX> kde is kinda lame
[04:59] <sourgrape> anoble - fiddlesticks.  Still dead?
[04:59] <DrifterSX> gnome is way way better
[04:59] <sourgrape> eh, I perosnally hate gnome AND Kde =)
[04:59] <calc> CDE FTW
[04:59] <anoble> sourgrape: runs localboot script like 5 times and craps out
[04:59] <DrifterSX> oh ya, well what DO u like then
[04:59] <kingsley_zissou> sourgrape: Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[05:00] <rhys> anyone know how to change nautulis's security mode for samba?
[05:00] <lnxnwbe> HI, i'v been useing ubuntu off ond on for a while . How do i say thanks to all the people who work on it?
[05:00] <sourgrape> Drifter, my perosnal preference is XFCE4 with SLIM
[05:00] <rhys> I need the "connect to server dialog" to pass the preference "sec=ntlmv2"
[05:00] <anoble> sourgrape: me thinks its a full reinstall time to get to square 1
[05:00] <o0Chris0o> where can I get PyQt 3.13 for kubuntu?
[05:00]  * calc notes CDE is only of the ugliest environments known to man
[05:00] <osiris> why in the world does xorg.conf have almost NOTHING in it in hardy?
[05:00] <osiris> how am I supposed to edit that
[05:00] <sourgrape> Kingsley - that I dno't know.  My laptop has an ATI 7500 mobility and won't run the properitary drivers
[05:00] <rhys> osiris, dont touchy feely with ubuntus undersystem
[05:01] <crdlb> osiris: because everything is autodetected
[05:01] <calc> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/DECwindows-openvms-v7.3-1.png <- :-)
[05:01] <sourgrape> Anoble - probably not a bad idea, start fresh
[05:01] <Jordan_U> calc, It's happily not very 'common' though :)
[05:01] <rhys> ubuntu is not an undersystem kinda distro
[05:01] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:01] <Scunizi> osiris, xorg I think doesn't  drive the video anymore.
[05:01] <kingsley_zissou> sourgrape: thanks for the reply. it's a shame, will probably downgrade back to gutsy
[05:01] <AdrianStrays> Can someone please help me with this
[05:01] <sourgrape> anoble - I probably installed Ubuntu and Debian about 50 times when I first started
[05:01] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: do not use fglrx on that card, it does not support it
[05:01] <DrifterSX> XFCE4 with SLIM?? idk what that is
[05:01] <osiris> rhys, what are you talking about ? and its not autodetected
[05:01] <calc> Jordan_U: it was, it just wasn't free so isn't common on FOSS, XFCE started as a CDE clone but luckily didn't stay that ugly
[05:01] <Starnestommy> o0Chris0o: I think it's packaged as python-qt3 or python-qt4 depending on the version of PyQt
[05:01] <osiris> if it was, i wouldnt be booting to 800x600
[05:01] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i dont want to loose my Winfux partition its got WoW on there
[05:01] <ubuntuROX> Anyone else have multiple USB Drives listed under Places / Computer? even when there are no usb devices plugged in?
[05:01] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: how do i switch back to glx?
[05:01] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: fglrx last supported anything below the 9500 with 8.28, which was in Edgy
[05:02] <sourgrape> Anoble - yea, fortunately you can tell the Ubuntu installer to just delete the linux partitiosn
[05:02] <anoble> osiris: im having the same problem, as you
[05:02] <rhys> osfameron, im saying ubuntu gets pissed when you play with its insides. if you have to edit the xorg in ubuntu, you shouldn't be using ubuntu.
[05:02] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: glx? that's not a driver
[05:02] <rhys> osiris,  i mean
[05:02] <osiris> doesnt anybody that uses ubuntu, actually know how there linux works ?
[05:02] <DrifterSX> XFCE4 with SLIM what is that
[05:02] <amnatz> where is the dual screen configuration GUI ?
[05:02] <ubuntuROX> Or, does anyone know why I might have multiple USB Drives listed under /places / computer when there are no usb drives plugged in at the time?
[05:02] <roshane> earthling pretty cool..http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/08/22/matrix-desktop/ how do i get that?
[05:02] <osiris> what happened to inittab ?
[05:02] <rhys> where is the dual screen GUI?
[05:02] <DrifterSX> ive heard of xfce4 but not SLIM
[05:02] <calc> osiris: sure lots of people, eg core-dev and motu for example ;-)
[05:02] <AdrianStrays> ﻿I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:02] <sourgrape> SLiM is a replacement for GDM (Gnome Display Manager)
[05:03] <earthling> roshane: yeah.. i dont much about animated wallpapers, though :(
[05:03] <DrifterSX> is it like a "lite" version of gnome kindA?
[05:03] <Scrounch> is it possible to have a GPS (travel, distance..no geolocalisation of course) in a soft @ ubuntu ?
[05:03] <osiris> im not here to bash, but i really expected more from hardy, as dapper was so spectacular
[05:03] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: you need to remove any attempts at installing fglrx and then reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx, then you can go back to using the "ati" driver
[05:03] <sourgrape> Yea, this is a 5 year old laptop, so I conserver where I can Drifter
[05:03] <calc> osiris: inittab was replaced with upstart i think
[05:03] <DrifterSX> o ok
[05:03] <AdrianStrays> ﻿I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:03] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: all within hh?
[05:03] <cr4z3d> i just upgraded to 8.04 and now my wireless doesn't work. intel pro 3945abg card was using ipw3945 and i hear you need iwl3945 in the new version but doesn't seem to be working
[05:03] <amnatz> and where is SLIM ?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Scrounch, Google Earth might do that
[05:03] <DrifterSX> mine is a 5 year old desktop and i run beryl
[05:04] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: of course
[05:04] <calc> osiris: what was so special about dapper?
[05:04] <DrifterSX> 512RAM P4 3.2Ghz
[05:04] <osiris> im running hardy on a 600mhz compaq lappy
[05:04] <amnatz> that was in "screen resolution" in 7.10
[05:04] <sourgrape> cr4z... does the wireless card show up under Restricted Drivers?
[05:04] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: thank you :-D
[05:04] <calc> osiris: for the most part gnome has looked the same for the past 7 years
[05:04] <o0Chris0o> Starnestommy thanks its packaged as python-qt3
[05:04] <o0Chris0o> :)
[05:04] <amnatz> but i dont find it in 8.04
[05:04] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)?? i installed samba, but still i am having problems accessing/sharing files.
[05:04] <sourgrape> Cr4z - I'm sorry, it's called "hardware driverS" now
[05:04] <Scrounch> Jordan_U:  i have tested it, but that's just distance @ road, and i need that for forest too :/
[05:04] <osiris> gnome aside, i run fluxbox or enlightenment anyhow
[05:04] <arooni-mobile> hey ubuntu team!  i recently switched my network from unencrypted => WPA security.  my gutsy laptop had no problem with the change.... but my gutsy desktop (with wireless nic) can't seem to connect to the network............. ideas?
[05:04] <punisher> Hi, all!
[05:05] <sourgrape> Amnatz - SLiM is in the packages, I think I just apt-get'd it
[05:05] <roshane> earthling my problem so far is installing things...and i also have a concern about things i used to do and programs i used to run in windows like Xara Xtreme and graphics software and my games like Call of Duty 4
[05:05] <amnatz> sourgrape : THX!
[05:05] <AdrianStrays> ﻿I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:05] <DrifterSX> COD4 is on PC?
[05:05] <o0Chris0o> now I need to figure out how to download and install liquid weather for super karamba
[05:05] <DrifterSX> i Own at that game on PS3
[05:05] <bigfuzzyjesus_> okay, so i got hardy heron, but i cant have sound from firefox and rythmbox at the same time, so if i open rythmbox first, firefox has no sound until i close rythmbox and restart firefox or vice versa
[05:05] <osiris> Dh08, that's cause samba is half busted by default in hardy
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Scrounch, What do you mean 'for forest'? Do you mean following hiking trails or simply as the crow flies?
[05:05] <bigfuzzyjesus_> any ideas?
[05:05] <Scrounch> an multiple checkpoint
[05:05] <Scrounch> and
[05:05] <punisher> can you see my masseges?
[05:05] <osiris> no
[05:05] <ubuntuROX> for games check out urban terror. or open arena.
[05:05] <calc> osiris: thats due to the new gnome (i think, at least aiui)
[05:05] <anoble> nope i cant
[05:05] <DATmafia> im running 8.04 lts in virtualbox, need to enable resolution past 800x600 i tried the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with no success
[05:06] <o0Chris0o> yeah urban terror is pretty sweet
[05:06] <AdrianStrays> ﻿I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:06] <punisher> Sorry, my english no good
[05:06] <o0Chris0o> originally a quake 3 mod
[05:06] <punisher> I From russia
[05:06] <osiris> DATmafia, welcome to my world, only no VM
[05:06] <Dh08> any tools out there to make this process easier?
[05:06] <ubuntuROX> I love that game, and open arenas not bad either, just more quakeish
[05:06] <patifa> ?ru
[05:06] <anoble> punisher: privyet
[05:06] <patifa> dangit :|
[05:06] <DrifterSX> open arena sux
[05:06] <DATmafia> osiris	 so im not alone, whew
[05:06] <osiris> DATmafia, and xorg.conf is a wreck now
[05:06] <patifa> !ru
[05:06] <DrifterSX> COD4 is way better
[05:06] <patifa> there you go punisher
[05:06] <sourgrape> DAT - install the tools first "Devices, Install Guest Addons" I think
[05:06] <ubuntuROX> what sux about it?
[05:06] <punisher> anoble: you speak russian?))
[05:06] <AdrianStrays> ﻿I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:06] <DrifterSX> pretty much all games for linux sux
[05:06] <earthling> roshane: for games you can try wine. you can find some stuff on googlin as to how to make COD run? but it will be using more CPU when runnin on ubuntu
[05:07] <anoble> punisher: ehh im Ukranian, i remeber a little ;)
[05:07] <bigfuzzyjesus_> okay, so i got hardy heron, but i cant have sound from firefox and rythmbox at the same time, so if i open rythmbox first, firefox has no sound until i close rythmbox and restart firefox or vice versa
[05:07] <absnt> How can I set VLC to be the default media player for everything (including streaming in firefox)
[05:07] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 okay
[05:07] <roshane> earthling why is that so?
[05:07] <DrifterSX> ya me too hat absnt said
[05:07] <osiris> absnt, you will need the vlc plugin for firefox for one
[05:07] <eboyjr> My BitTorrent is not resuming! :( !!
[05:07] <anoble> punisher: kak de la?
[05:08] <earthling> roshane: you are trying to emulate windows on linux using wine
[05:08] <absnt> osiris: I see it in the list of addons but under it it says totem player blahblah
[05:08] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, You can try installing libflashsupport but that might make flash less stable
[05:08] <eboyjr> I'm scared
[05:08] <ubuntuROX> I disagree.  I have been perfectly entertained by urban terror, and open arena..
[05:08] <sourgrape> WINE is not an emulator.. ;)
[05:08] <Mimi> QUESTION: What's the command that launches the Add/Remove on the start menu?
[05:08] <osiris> other than that you can use the "prefered applications" menu in preferences
[05:08] <DrifterSX> when i download torrents form isohunt.com it only gives me the option of using transmission (which sux)
[05:08] <Dh08> osiris: any tools out there to make this process easier?
[05:08] <CYREX> hey i have a virus on my pc, is there any antivirus for linux
[05:08] <CYREX> jk
[05:08] <calc> CYREX: clamav
[05:08] <anoble> CYREX: WTF?
[05:08] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, You can also try setting all applications to use alsa instead of pulseaudio ( though pulseaudio is pretty cool if you actually use its features )
[05:08] <DrifterSX> how do i choose ktorrent or any other to be my default torrent client
[05:08] <CYREX> hehe
[05:08] <osiris> Dh08, not that i have found.  im still working though it myself in my spare time
[05:09] <ubuntuROX> Or, does anyone know why I might have multiple USB Drives listed under /places / computer when there are no usb drives plugged in at the time?
[05:09] <DrifterSX> anyone?
[05:09] <Mimi> j #ubuntustudio
[05:09] <patifa> If he could actually figure out that he has a linux rootkit, he'd know enough to name it as such ;)
[05:09] <osiris> dont have the time now to spend all day with it
[05:09] <sourgrape> Save the torrent file, righ click it, open with / as / something like that
[05:09] <Mimi> oops
[05:09] <bigfuzzyjesus_> Jordan_U, what is pulseaudio, i have always used alsa
[05:09] <Scunizi> ubuntuROX, a usb hub?
[05:09] <eboyjr> whats the command for bittorrent?
[05:09]  * anoble is going to bed
[05:09] <calc> CYREX: clamav is useful for scanning email for viruses if your isp doesn't do it for you, but they can't infect your linux install :)
[05:09] <DrifterSX> thats what i do
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON IS HERE
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON IS SUPERIOR TO ALL OF YOU
[05:09] <CYREX> i know hehe just kidding
[05:09] <calc> CYREX: i used to get a few thousand virus emails a day
[05:09] <ubuntuROX> perhaps built in? didnt show in Gutsy?
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON WILL TAKE YOUR PANCAKES
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !ops
[05:09] <CYREX> wowwwwwwwww
[05:09] <BENSON> REAL MEN TYPE IN CAPS
[05:10] <DrifterSX> i want firefox to download the torrent straight to something else besides transmission
[05:10] <monkeybritches> Will you leave us the waffles?
[05:10] <CYREX> you got problems man
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: ?
[05:10] <eboyjr> BENSON, My eardrums hurt
[05:10] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, BENSON
[05:10] <roshane> earthling in terms of antivirus protection like i would need on windows, do i need one now? using ubuntu8.04
[05:10] <DrifterSX> transmission is really crappy and so is BitTorrent
[05:10] <gnomefreak> I saw after i asked
[05:10] <osiris> DrifterSX, transmission is
[05:10] <osiris> ktorrent is great
[05:10] <Raistli1> are there any wubi specialists in the house?
[05:10] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: how do i enable the ati driver? after reinstalling libgl1-mesa-glx, will it just work as it used to?
[05:10] <bigfuzzyjesus_> Jordan_U, msg okay?
[05:10] <DrifterSX> azureaus, utorrent and bitlord are the only ones worth using and i cant get any of those to work in ubuntu
[05:10] <sourgrape> Jordan - nah.  If you want a decent one to help protect your windows friends, I recommend AVG Llinux
[05:11] <calc> roshane: just to discard virus emails, you can't get infected though
[05:11] <arstanj> hi, where can I get the latest varnish(1.1.2)?
[05:11] <sourgrape> Clam is another good one, open source
[05:11] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, Sure
[05:11] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 how do u install those klinds of OS addons?
[05:11] <arstanj> I don't wanna compile myself
[05:11] <calc> roshane: if your isp does it for you then you don't need one
[05:11] <DrifterSX> ktorrent is good but i cant set it to be my default torrent program
[05:11] <earthling> roshane: not realy needed but you some some. search in synaptic.
[05:11] <sourgrape> DAT - which kinds?
[05:11] <Mimi> QUESTION: What's the command that launches the Add/Remove on the start menu? -- also... how can I record the ALSA output to a mp3 or something? Thanks
[05:11] <arstanj> I wanna use backports but there only 1.0.3 version
[05:11] <earthling> roshane: not realy needed but you can if you wanted search in synaptic.
[05:12] <osiris> DrifterSX, ktorrent supports a webUI, a bandwidth schedule, and IP blacklisting.  very handy for managing bandwidth
[05:12] <calc> Mimi: gnome-app-install
[05:12] <bigtimer121> how do i put songs on my ipod???
[05:12] <roshane> o ok...
[05:12] <legend2440> DrifterSX: right click a torrent file>properties>open with and set it to open with a torrent app
[05:12] <DrifterSX> idk what most of that has to do with what i asked tho
[05:12] <Mimi> THanks calc
[05:12] <arooni________aa> help1
[05:12] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: set Driver to "ati" in Section "Device" your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <eboyjr> QUESTION: What is the command for butttorrent?
[05:12] <osiris> DrifterSX, all features i miss in transmission
[05:12] <crdlb> bah
[05:12] <DrifterSX> friom firefox web browser i can do that legend2440
[05:12] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:12] <DrifterSX> ??
[05:12] <monkeybritches> Mimi: Have you tried Audacity?
[05:12] <eboyjr> bittorrent* excuse me *
[05:12] <sourgrape> I started with ktorrent and utorrent in wine, moved to rTorrent - but it's definitely an acquired taste
[05:12] <roshane> earthling i have others questions but i'm trying to remember them at this time
[05:13] <ubuntuROX> whats wrong with transmission?
[05:13] <endo> sourgrape: transmission is where its at
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:13] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 the kind for the addon to change my screen resolution
[05:13] <osiris> ubuntuROX, its a featureless ap
[05:13] <DrifterSX> transmission is too basic and lame
[05:13] <endo> DrifterSX: then use deluge
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:13] <roshane> earthling, oh...with compiz, the cube, how do i get it to zoom out when its been rotated?
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:13] <sourgrape> endo - yea, I've heard people that like Trans... I'm just used to rTorrent now
[05:13] <osiris> and the "clutch" webUI deb doesnt even work right
[05:13] <DrifterSX> the only thing about linux that i dont like is that its always behind technology and its too basic
[05:14] <DrifterSX> deuge is like utorrent or bitlord??
[05:14] <endo> utorrent
[05:14] <ubuntuROX> really? You can control the download and upload speeds? what else do you need?
[05:14] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:14] <DrifterSX> bitlord was my favorite by far on winblows
[05:14] <osiris> DrifterSX, i have found that statement very wrong
[05:14] <endo> utorrent is the best on windows
[05:14] <osiris> linux is not behind the technology
[05:14] <endo> utorrent
[05:14] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:14] <osiris> endo, add/remove programs ?
[05:15] <o0Chris0o> !repeat
[05:15] <endo> osiris: no, its not in ther
[05:15] <DrifterSX> umm u always see poeple trying to "configure" ipods, mp3 players, psp's, wifi cards, the list goes on
[05:15] <sourgrape> Restriced Drivers (Or "Hardware Drivers" in HH) un-"green" the check box next to the hardware
[05:15] <DrifterSX> u dont need to do ANY of that in winblows(not trying to defend microsuck)
[05:15] <osiris> DrifterSX, and you dont see that in windows ?
[05:15] <patifa> DrifterSX: They want to mess with the settings to make them work.
[05:15] <DrifterSX> no
[05:15] <earthling> roshane: you will have to set the action keys first. i dont remember exactly how? so cant be of much help now :(
[05:15] <DrifterSX> never see that
[05:15] <Alinon> i could use some help installing ubuntu if someone has time
[05:15] <DrifterSX> ever
[05:15] <SiCkNeSs-> has anyone downgraded firefox back to 2?
[05:15] <zionpsyfer> DrifterSX: Can you show me the download page for itunes for linux?
[05:15] <osiris> you have never worked in IT, have you
[05:15] <eross> in a little less than 15 minutes, I just installed 8.04 onto a fresh harddrive :-D
[05:15] <DrifterSX> u plug it in and it works in windows
[05:15] <mneptok> DrifterSX: how is this Linux's fault, though?
[05:15] <warriorforgod> DrifterSX: What is the trouble?
[05:15] <DrifterSX> idk about mac tho
[05:16] <patifa> eross: :)
[05:16] <DrifterSX> its not linux's fault
[05:16] <eross> where do i go from here..
[05:16] <warriorforgod> Alinon: What is the install problem you are having?
[05:16] <DrifterSX> im ranting i sorry
[05:16] <mneptok> DrifterSX: so stop saying it is. :)
[05:16] <patifa> eross: What do you wnat to do?
[05:16] <DrifterSX> i wasnt
[05:16] <eross> i been here before with 6.06, etc..
[05:16] <DrifterSX> u misinterpreted
[05:16] <eross> play games and run game server
[05:16] <ubuntuROX> I think linux is ahead of the technology, somehow it manages to stop me from having to spend hours removing spyware and virus infections from my computers, and they run fast from the day its installed till its time for an upgrade,,, plus I think its kinda nice getting a new toy every six months or so in a new version, and without having to make Mr. Gates richer...
[05:16] <mgregsond> DrifterSX: I agree, your point is valid.
[05:16] <calc> whee need itunes to buy DRM'd music that will at some future date stop working, see MSN music being shut down
[05:16] <eross> dont care too much for flashy gui unless it doesn't slow my gameplay
[05:16] <roshane> earthling what about viewing someone's webcam like i would in MSN messenger, can Pidgin do that? i cant find the feature? is there any other alternative?
[05:16] <mgregsond> DrifterSX: It's getting there though.
[05:16] <osiris> enough politics.  back to problems
[05:17] <mneptok> DrifterSX: Microsoft spent exactly $0 and 0 days making iPods work in Windows. Apple did the work. you want your iPod in Linux? talk to the same people that made it "just work" in Windows. Apple.
[05:17] <DrifterSX> ubunturox thats why i like ubuntu so much, i even have Yellow dog linux on my PS3 and oon ill have suse and fedora
[05:17] <bigtimer121> anyone know how to put songs onto an ipod???
[05:17] <warriorforgod> bigtimer121: I use gtkpod
[05:17] <sourgrape> Rhythmbox works well with my iPod
[05:17] <Alinon> warriorforgod: i've always been able to install ubuntu in the passed, but for some reason with build 8.04 i'm getting a wierd error when the partitioner starts to load stating something about 1024 bytes and something about it being experiemental
[05:17] <earthling> roshane: cant help there either. ask other here
[05:17] <mgregsond> bigtimer121: AmaroK
[05:17] <legend2440> SiCkNeSs-: i did but had to go back to 3. the addons in 2 wouldn't install or uninstall under hardy
[05:17]  * calc is pretty sure if he felt like plugging his ipod into his ubuntu 8.04 laptop it would just work
[05:17] <zionpsyfer> bigtimer121: gtkpod or amarok or rhythmbox
[05:17] <DrifterSX> i hate ipods just using them as a "technology" example since so many poeple have them
[05:17] <warriorforgod> Alinon: Can you give me the exact error message?
[05:17] <DrifterSX> and dont WE want more PEOPLE to use ubuntu
[05:17] <enterusername> hello
[05:17] <mneptok> DrifterSX: it applies to any device.
[05:18] <sourgrape> Drifter - and for a while - iPods didn't work in Windows
[05:18] <eross> the new background is a step up from the usual brown color, I like it
[05:18] <Mimi> !offtopic
[05:18] <DrifterSX> ya for a while
[05:18] <bigtimer121> mgregsond: i use amarok, but when i drag the songs over it won't put it on the ipod. you know what i should check
[05:18] <Alinon> warriorforgod: after that i click ok but the paritioner never starts, i've never the regular installer, wubi and the atlernative install they all do the same thing
[05:18] <monkeybritches> I hate the fact that people think iPod is synonymous with mp3 player
[05:18] <DrifterSX> i cant even get my psp to work on here
[05:18] <mneptok> DrifterSX: define "work"
[05:18] <eboyjr> I like brown... its my favorite color, next to oragne
[05:18] <ubuntuROX> I think its a stupid decision to buy things that are locked into one vendor...
[05:18] <DrifterSX> well i havent tried it in 8.04 but my guess is a big no no
[05:18] <warriorforgod> Alinon: Have you run any disk checks for errors on the drive?
[05:18] <Mimi> !offtopic
[05:18] <mgregsond> bigtimer121: No, I don't have an ipod.  I just know that it tends to work...
[05:18] <roshane> can someone recommend a chat program similar to MSN on windows that i can use to view a webcam? can Pidgin do it?
[05:18] <monkeybritches> Like when my friend was saying she wasnted to get a cheap iPod and couldn't grasp it when I told her there was no such thing.
[05:18] <amrik> Hi, how do I configure Evolution to read an IMAP server for the list of remote folders?
[05:19] <Alinon> yeap it's fine
[05:19] <mneptok> DrifterSX: my PSP mounts and displays its memory card with no fuss in both Gutsy and Hardy
[05:19] <ubuntuROX> skype Roshane
[05:19] <osiris> so does ANYONE know how to force xorg.conf to generate a REAL conf file ?
[05:19] <patifa> amrik: Look for 'subscribe'
[05:19] <DrifterSX> umm change any video file from avi, divx etc to mp4 and transfer it onto my psp all in one click
[05:19] <warriorforgod> Alinon: ext3 filesystem?
[05:19] <Alinon> no it's not
[05:19] <DrifterSX> oo a memory card lol
[05:19] <ubuntuROX> webcam works great in skype
[05:19] <eross> accelerated nvidia =)
[05:19] <milly1234> my generic flash memory usb connected mp3 player is all my fiance needs, just basically a flashdrive with a mp3 player built around it
[05:19] <patifa> amrik: "subscribe" is the keyword in IMAP for dealing with folders and whatnot
[05:19] <Scunizi> roshane, skype or ekiga.. ekiga is typically already installed
[05:19] <mneptok> DrifterSX: well, that's what the PSP does. that's all it does.
[05:19] <Alinon> warriorforgod: it's ntfs but that's what it's always been in the passed too
[05:19] <eross> brb
[05:19] <calc> DrifterSX: there is probably a tool to do that, i stream videos/music/photos from Ubuntu to my PS3, was easy
[05:19] <sourgrape> Skype, Ekiga or aMSN for webcam
[05:19] <DrifterSX> will my webcam form my ps3 (psEyetoy 2) work for skype in ubuntu??
[05:19] <roshane> ubuntuROX does the other person have to have it too?
[05:19] <pinno> anyone having problems putting in the password in the terminal and not being able to type numbers?
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: PSPvc
[05:20] <warriorforgod> Alinon: So you are installing ubuntu on an NTFS partition?
[05:20] <DrifterSX> ps3 is way more suited for that tho
[05:20] <milly1234> pinno, numlock?
[05:20] <DrifterSX> pspvc NEVER works
[05:20] <roshane> Scunizi the person is using Windows Vista
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: i have converted every Batman animated episode ever made to PSP format using nothing but Linux.
[05:20] <osiris> pinno, no, but all my keybindings in vi seem wrong now
[05:20] <monkeybritches> osiris: Have you tried configuring it from a console login after a reboot?
[05:20] <ubuntuROX> yes, they will need skype to see your webcam, but its free for windows too
[05:20] <patifa> pinno: I have a bug where my numlock key is lit up upon startup, but isn't actually active till I jab numlock a few times to synchronize the light with the real state of the numlock
[05:20] <DrifterSX> nice job
[05:20] <Scunizi> roshane, amsn or skype then
[05:20] <DrifterSX> i just use pspvideo9
[05:20] <earthling> roshane: ubuntuROX seems to know some thing about webcams ask him
[05:20] <DrifterSX> it does it for me, but not in linux
[05:20] <amrik> patifa: do you mean the "only check subscribed folders" option in receiving email?
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: works here. and on my girlfriend's machine. and on my friend's machine ruinning Fedora.
[05:20] <osiris> monkeybritches, i cant find an example syntax to go by
[05:20] <pinno> ah kk ill check
[05:21] <lop> hi
[05:21] <DrifterSX> how do i install it??
[05:21] <pinno> well i can type numbers in everything else but in the terminal
[05:21] <eboyjr> I don't like the font that Ubuntu uses for everything... the title bars, application text, 3d objects, etc... Any ideas on how to change this?
[05:21] <DrifterSX> im not compiling or unpacking or whatever
[05:21] <Tixer> I have a problem on a Xubuntu server I manage. The server responds to ping, I can SSH / VNC into it, but it can't access any sites other than the router it uses. I even tried pinging 4.2.2.1, which doesn't work. Any ideas?
[05:21] <osiris> but yes, that is what im intending to do.  didnt know i would need my old xorg.conf for an upgrade
[05:21] <ubuntuROX> roshane skype has windows, mac, and linux clients
[05:21] <roshane> Scunizi can u use synaptic to get amsn?
[05:21] <DrifterSX> i wana click on it and have it install like an exe file
[05:21] <Scunizi> roshane, yes
[05:21] <Don_Miguel> Hello all ...
[05:21] <DrifterSX> sudo apt-get install pspvc?
[05:21] <Don_Miguel> Problem: IDE (working) partitions not visible after Gutsy net-upgrade to Hardy on SATA  note: those IDE still show in BIOS, see Paste: http://pastebin.com/m6cd001d4
[05:21] <pinno> once it asks for a password in the terminal i cant type anything in it
[05:21] <mneptok> DrifterSX: download the package from Sourceforge. install the dependent packages and build-essential, then compile it according to the instructions
[05:21] <sourgrape> system / preferences / appearance
[05:21] <monkeybritches> Type: sudo dpkg-config xserver-xorg
[05:22] <mneptok> DrifterSX: PSPvc has no .deb yet, and is not in the repos
[05:22] <DrifterSX> idk what any of that means except for the download part
[05:22] <arooni-mobileaas> help!  my poor gutsy desktop cant connect to a wpa personal enabled network.  i have installed wpasupplicant.  what should i do?
[05:22] <amrik> patifa: I'm still unsure how to "subscribe" so as to get all my folders to show up
[05:22] <DrifterSX> well there u go
[05:22] <calc> DrifterSX: pspvideo9 uses ffmpeg, which is originally a linux app
[05:22] <osiris> monkeybritches, tried that one already
[05:22] <DrifterSX> this seems to be WAY easy
[05:22] <DrifterSX> i know calc
[05:22] <Alinon> warriorforgod: you get my PM?
[05:22] <osiris> monkeybritches, you dont get a dialog to set resolution
[05:22] <calc> DrifterSX: so just use ffmpeg directly and tell it to output psp format
[05:22] <DrifterSX> ffmpeg never worx for me either
[05:23] <monkeybritches> I meant sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:23] <DrifterSX> i need a gui program i can just click "self explanitory" buttons
[05:23] <andylcp> what is ffmpeg?
[05:23] <Danikar> My windows partition isn't mounting when I first log into Ubuntu. It use to though. How can I make it so that it does?
[05:23] <ubuntuROX> I wonder what video card the developers are running? seems like there is always some bugginess with nvidia and ati drivers.
[05:23] <crdlb> osiris: what video card do you have?
[05:23] <DrifterSX> i dont want to go through all this headache of unpacking, compiling, or whatever
[05:23] <warriorforgod> Alinon: no.
[05:23] <amnatz> slim is not dual screen gui ?!
[05:23] <pinno> got it working thanks for the help
[05:23] <DrifterSX> way too much work, and i usually never do it right and some how mess up my ubuntu
[05:24] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, System -> Preferences -> Appearance, You can also use any microsoft fonts from the "msttcorefonts" package if you don't like those available by default
[05:24] <calc> andylcp: look in synaptic
[05:24] <Scunizi> DrifterSX, learn or revert back to M$
[05:24] <amnatz> what for dual screen ?
[05:24] <mneptok> DrifterSX: so we can sum up your argument with, "Windows really sucks. Linux sucks because it's not more like Windows." ;)
[05:24] <sourgrape> amnatz - slim is a window manager, and it covers both my screens when it comes up
[05:24] <ubuntuROX> LOL
[05:24] <eboyjr> Jordan_U, Oh, yeah.. I had those downloaded already.
[05:24] <roshane> Scunizi what do i use as the log info? the info i used for MSN on windows?
[05:24] <DrifterSX> lol
[05:24] <eboyjr> Thanks
[05:24] <DrifterSX> sure..
[05:24] <earthling> Danikar: pastebin your fstab
[05:24] <calc> DrifterSX: i'm pretty sure clicking install ffmpeg in synaptic doesn't involve any of those steps
[05:24] <andylcp> calc:oh,thank you!I will go
[05:24] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, np
[05:24] <Scunizi> roshane, yes.. it connect to msn
[05:24] <DrifterSX> i wana dual boot vista with hardy soon but im lazy
[05:24] <Scunizi> *connects
[05:24] <Alinon> warriorforgod: mind sending me a PM - it's easier to chat that way heh
[05:24] <balgarath>  anyone here use ies4linux to do all the ie stuff for webpages?  I'm having trouble getting it to view a page on localhost.  says it cannot find server..
[05:25] <DrifterSX> yeah but using ffmpeg never does anything for me
[05:25]  * calc bbl, back to work
[05:25] <DrifterSX> i just fixed synaptic so let me try it
[05:25] <sourgrape> balgarath... can you view the webpage in firefox?
[05:25] <ubuntuROX> Trick to really enjoying linux is to find programs linux native programs to do the stuff you used windows aps for.
[05:25] <calc> DrifterSX: dunno, i never had the time to actually encode a video for my psp
[05:25] <Scunizi> balgarath, with that issue ie4lin won't help
[05:25] <balgarath> sourcode, yes
[05:25] <amrik> Hi I am still stuck. how do I configure Evolution to read an IMAP server for the list of remote folders?
[05:25] <calc> DrifterSX: i just play emu games on it :)
[05:25] <DrifterSX> fixed lol i already in the 1 week having hardy screwed it up 3 times
[05:25] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:25] <ubuntuROX> once you do, you may find the linux programs have more features, or just make more sense to use.
[05:25] <DrifterSX> i keep mine updated
[05:25] <roshane> Scunizi...it works perfect, thank you
[05:26] <Scunizi> roshane, np
[05:26]  * calc should encode some videos for his trip to prague
[05:26] <DrifterSX> i dont wana hack it unbtil i get a slim psp
[05:26] <mneptok> DrifterSX: you need to read something. lemme find it.
[05:26] <Danikar> earthling: http://pastebin.com/m546be0cf
[05:26] <balgarath> Scunizi, are you saying that this is a known problem with ies4linux, or that my problem is not in ies4linux?
[05:26] <DrifterSX> ok brb pm me with it
[05:26] <balgarath> sourgrape, yes
[05:26] <warriorforgod> Alinon: I just send you a pm
[05:26] <earthling> Danikar: going through it now
[05:26] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:26] <calc> DrifterSX: very easy to hack now with pandora battery, offtopic though
[05:27] <DrifterSX> u know i like u guys good people, another eason i like ubuntu sooo much good hearted support
[05:27] <sourgrape> balgarath - curious.  What if you substitude 127.0.0.1 for localhost?
[05:27] <Scunizi> balgarath, doesn't sound like it's a prob  with ies4lin.. it uses the same path as FF in ubuntu.. so if FF works so should ies4lin..
[05:27] <osiris> crdlb, VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade i1 (rev 6a)
[05:27] <DrifterSX> calc u need to learn me that stuff
[05:27] <calc> DrifterSX: search on google for "pandora's battery"
[05:27] <earthling> Danikar: which is the win partition?
[05:27] <Danikar> sda1
[05:27] <sourgrape> Drifter - just think - if you stick with it and become a linux expert, you won't have to pay 400 dollars for Windows 2009's "upgrade"
[05:27] <mneptok> DrifterSX: http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_T_O_N_O_M_I_C_O_N.shtml  <--- read the "MGBs, Tanks, and Batmobiles" part. fun stuff.
[05:27] <balgarath> Scunizi, FF works and ies doesn't....
[05:27] <sourgrape> Or however much they are going to charge
[05:27] <balgarath> sourgrape, still won't load - it says The page cannot be displayed now though
[05:27] <osiris> crdlb, PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP]
[05:27] <DrifterSX> ok read in a lil bit
[05:28] <DrifterSX> ty mneptok
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: well most people don't pay for windows anyway, buy ymmv :)
[05:28] <mneptok> np np
[05:28] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:28] <DrifterSX> anyone read graphic novels here?
[05:28] <sourgrape> calc - I meant, legally =p
[05:28] <DrifterSX> or real books?
[05:28] <amrik> Ok I think I know how to do it. Folder -> Subscriptions and then choose the server you want
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: its either included from factory on their system, or they get it other ways ;-)
[05:28] <jodekary> has anyone been able to get a BT headset to work with 8.04
[05:28] <N1N31NCHN41L6> hello simple question where do i go to put a terminal option on either dektop or menu bars?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> idyllic, Are you stracing firefox or firefox-bin ?
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: most people get windows pre-installed i imagine, not illegally
[05:28] <DrifterSX> synaptic shows that i have ffmpeg installed but i dont know how to use it
[05:28] <idyllic> jordan_U: firefox
[05:28] <earthling> Danikar: you dont have the windows partition in the fstab. add it and reboot. it will mount then
[05:28] <arooni_> haha oh noes:  i ran:  sudo apt-get remove network-manager-nome network-manager.............. and now stuff is blown up... i have no connections and i cant get it back with sudo apt-get install.......... what should i do??????
[05:28] <DrifterSX> should i install some sort of "front-end" gui for it??
[05:29] <sourgrape> calc - I'd be it's about half and half... Best Buy is sellin those upgrade boxes to somefools.. er someone
[05:29] <osiris> N1N31NCHN41L6, right click on the menubar and click add application
[05:29] <mneptok> DrifterSX: i can help you get PSPvc set up, since i opened my mouth
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: which is why there are so few installs of vista so far, no one wants to buy it but it comes preinstalled so they are stuck with it on new machines
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: you already have one  :)
[05:29] <Mattevt> would anyone be able to tell me why the orientation of the (Application Places System) is on the right instead of the left of the taskbar?
[05:29] <Scunizi> balgarath, for ie access to sites that require it I use VMWare server and install an old copy of w2kpro or xp
[05:29] <DrifterSX> ok if u have time im down for iyt
[05:29] <crdlb> osiris: hmm, that's quite obscure :)
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: very few sales of the upgrades actually
[05:29] <DrifterSX> fde?
[05:29] <Danikar> earthling, Do i need antying for options?
[05:29] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris: i didnt see it in the list - which one is it
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: if you installed 'gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg' then just play the movie in Totem  :)
[05:29] <ENeGMA> I've been having a lot of stability issues since downloading the 8.04 beta and even the latest updates seem to do nothing to fix them -- is there any way to solve this?
[05:29] <Scunizi> Mattevt, drag it where you want it.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> idyllic, 'firefox' is simply the startup script ( checks for other running instances, used in launchers ) firefox-bin is the actual program
[05:29] <osiris> crdlb, its a 600mhz compaq lappy
[05:29] <iMatter> Uhm how can i disable SELinux or is there a configuration GUI for it?
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <sourgrape> calc - That's music to my ears
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <DrifterSX> fde nm ur off my topic i think
[05:29] <FloodBot1> hyde: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: Applications > Sound & Video > Movie Player
[05:29] <idyllic> jordan_U: there is no firefox-bin in 8.04 . i checked the system monitor
[05:29] <DrifterSX> i hate totem
[05:29] <Mattevt> Scunizi: I can drag the buttons, but the menus don't seem to move
[05:29] <crdlb> osiris: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log . See if it says VESA or TRIDENT a few dozen times on the left
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: there were some numbers published a while back about pc sales vs number of vista installs, and its pretty much just preinstalled, very few box sales of vista
[05:29] <osiris> N1N31NCHN41L6, you want the add to panel option
[05:29] <balgarath> Scunizi, thanks for the tip
[05:29] <genii> iMatter: kernel option: selinux=0
[05:30] <earthling> Danikar: what is the partition type for your windows partition?
[05:30] <DrifterSX> vlc only here
[05:30] <ubuntuROX> Microsofts Vista is the best MS product ever...  It caused me to switch to linux :)
[05:30] <sourgrape> bal - does IES have some weird proxy set up for local host?
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: exactly ;-)
[05:30] <fde> DrifterSX: Then install 'vlc' it's in the archive  :)
[05:30] <DrifterSX> lol ubunturox
[05:30] <Danikar> earthling, ntfs?
[05:30] <Danikar> earthling, /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs default 0 0 is what i think i need
[05:30] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:30] <DrifterSX> i ahve it duhsky
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: actually vista isn't that bad if you reinstall it cleanly getting rid of all the crud from factory
[05:30] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | hyde
[05:30] <fde> DrifterSX: That is a front end for ffmpeg....
[05:30] <N1N31NCHN41L6> no i want to add a terminal shortcut to ppanel or desktop
[05:30] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris:
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=120228/
[05:30] <Scunizi> Mattevt, you might have to right mouse click the area and unlock
[05:30] <DrifterSX> vista is actually pretty cool SOMETIMES
[05:30] <ENeGMA> Vista didn't crash on me as much as 8.04 is
[05:31] <DrifterSX> i hate all the spyware on any windows machine tho
[05:31] <ubuntuROX> LOL,, but "not bad" is not as good as my Ubuntu systems :)
[05:31] <Jordan_U> idyllic, Hmm, let me see if firefox-3 still uses a separate launcher script...
[05:31] <calc> ubuntuROX: note that doesn't circumvent any licensing or anything, just reinstalls an OEM system without the crap
[05:31] <earthling> Danikar: u have to be sure
[05:31] <DrifterSX> i just wish we could use directX10 or 11 or whatever it is now
[05:31] <idyllic> Jordan_U: thank you. I can't even strace -f <PID/any process>. I tried with opera as well. Same error
[05:31] <balgarath> sourgrape, no I don't believe so
[05:31] <Danikar> earthling, Oh well it is definetly ntfs.
[05:31] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris: can it be done?
[05:31] <calc> i reinstalled vista on my laptop on sunday to test out some hard drive stuff (the hdparm -B 254 thing)
[05:32] <Danikar> earthling, Do i need to know anything else about it
[05:32]  * Scunizi thinks DrifterSX is either really new to linux or just trolling
[05:32] <sessh1234> k i just switched to ubuntu 8.04 from gentoo, in gentoo i had rc-update for modifying runlevels, is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[05:32] <DrifterSX> im not new to linux lol
[05:32] <DrifterSX> but not all that seasoned either
[05:32] <sourgrape> Balgarath - it's boggling me noggin.  Did that tip work from Scunzi?
[05:32] <Scunizi> DrifterSX, then you must be trolling
[05:32] <DrifterSX> i get by alot better now
[05:32]  * mneptok points DrifterSX to a /msg window
[05:32] <fde> sessh1234: apt-cache search runlevel ... update-rc.d is popular.
[05:32] <Mattevt> Scunizi: "Lock to Panel" is unchecked...I don't think the (Applications Places System) menus are moveable...I can move the buttons along the taskbar, just not the three main menus
[05:32] <ubuntuROX> I agree,, vista is not bad,  It was the bomb for me,,  like I said,, it made me take another look at linux and now I am delighted..
[05:32] <DrifterSX> im trying to get calc to help me get pspvc working
[05:32] <earthling> Danikar: type fdisk -l as super user and tell the partition showing ntsf
[05:32] <sessh1234> thanks
[05:32] <amnatz> root@natousayni-laptop:/home/natousayni# slim
[05:32] <amnatz> Segmentation fault
[05:32] <amnatz> dualscreen
[05:32] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i seem to think i saw something in add/remove once that put a terminal in the takbars - but cant find it now
[05:33] <calc> DrifterSX: oh pspvc, i have no idea about it at all, don't have a ps3 camera
[05:33] <amnatz> what may i do next ?
[05:33] <calc> DrifterSX: someone else was talking about pspvc
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, earthling, /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs default 0 0
[05:33] <fde> sessh1234: Remember, on Debian/Ubuntu 2-5 are the same thing by default.
[05:33] <Scunizi> Mattevt, try to add another application menu to the bar and place it where you want it.. if it works delete the other  one.
[05:33] <DrifterSX> someone was gona show me how pspvc works, not the damn ca,mera calc
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, bah miscopy
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, /dev/sda1   *           1       20550   165067843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:33] <DrifterSX> must be mne
[05:33] <balgarath> sourgrape, his suggestion was to install an old copy of windows to a VMware server...I won't be able to get to that for a while
[05:33] <sessh1234> is there a gnome app for bringing down a terminal from the top of the screen with ~
[05:33]  * calc bbl, work
[05:33] <Alinon> when i try to install Ubuntu i get a message during scanning that says something like device /hda or whatever has a logical sector size of 2048 - not all parts of gnu parted support this at the moment and working code is highly experimental
[05:33] <DrifterSX> ok ok ill brb
[05:34] <earthling> Danikar: k
[05:34] <crdlb> sessh1234: tilde
[05:34] <sourgrape> balgarath ... last dumb quesitn.  What if you put the real IP address of your workstation into IE intead of localhost?  Still epic fail?
[05:34] <InfernoX222> does neone know how to get madwifi-source to install? apt-get install madwifi-source dosnt work and synaptic dosnt have it either
[05:34] <Scunizi> sessh1234, yes.. I just read about it the other day.. but for the life of me I can't remember the name.
[05:34] <Alinon> this happens when the the partitioner starts...but it just sits there forever
[05:34] <osiris> crdlb, trident
[05:34] <ubuntuROX> whats with real player?  I had to do the bin install, then remove the mplayer plugins to for rm to get it to work.  Should be a package that does all that
[05:34] <fde> sessh1234: Same one you used in Gentoo... apt-cache search <whatever-you-used-in-gentoo> ... it'll be in Ubuntu, I'd bet  :)
[05:34] <ENeGMA> is there any solution to the problem with sound dropping out in 8.04?
[05:34] <earthling> Danikar: your entry will be some thing like " /dev/sda1  /mnt/sda1  ntfs uid=1000,gid=100 0 0"
[05:34] <sessh1234> i didnt have it in gentoo
[05:34] <sessh1234> it was a kde thing
[05:34] <sessh1234> ive seen it before
[05:35] <sessh1234> i wanted know if gnome had something similar
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> ENeGMA, cutting out while on battery?... i don't have it in kde if that's a plus
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> or work around
[05:35] <Scunizi> sessh1234, that's what I was referring to
[05:35] <earthling> Danikar: you will have to create /mnt/sda1 or have at a place convinient to you
[05:35] <ENeGMA> no, on ac
[05:35] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i want a terminal shortcut on desktop or in menu nars
[05:35] <hydrogen> yakuake is the kde program
[05:35] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: hey i know you from mgalug
[05:35] <hydrogen> If theres a gnome one i'm sure its not as good
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:35] <Fezzler> Pelo?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> cool sessh1234
[05:35] <N1N31NCHN41L6> sessh1234:  there is - i saw it before - looking fo now
[05:35] <sourgrape> Nine - right click the terminal menu item in the menus
[05:36] <Danikar> earthling, ok. Its so weird Gutsy always did it for me =\
[05:36] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, find terminal in the menu .. right mouse click and choose place on panel or whatever
[05:36] <balgarath> sourgrape, that got it, as long as I put http:// in front of the IP
[05:36] <Mattevt> Scunizi: thanks. I think I can work with this
[05:36] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: lol, no one talks there anymore though
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> i'm famous.. in HPR episode 83 Xoke "stole" my tux penguin
[05:36] <balgarath> sourgrape, thanks for the suggestions :)
[05:36] <sourgrape> balgarath - wel at least you havea  temp work around.  It's going to bug me that localhost isn't working
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, true
[05:36] <Scunizi> Mattevt, many ways  to skin a cat.. or heron :)
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> people are just too busy here
[05:36] <Danikar> earthling, thanks
[05:36] <earthling> Danikar: k
[05:37] <sourgrape> balgarath - makes me think that IE4Linux is hijacking localhosts/127 subnet somehow
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdkjash dkjashda
[05:37] <sessh1234> yeah, lol
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdjksa dkjsahdas
[05:37] <labmgr> kajsdhaksjhd jksadas
[05:37] <labmgr> kjasdhjksah dkjsa
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdkjsa dkjsad
[05:37] <FloodBot1> labmgr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:37] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: do you know any linux computer shops or companies in the area
[05:37] <balgarath> sourgrape, lol...I just noticed that http://localhost works, I was just typing localhost - its an M$ thing I guess
[05:38] <sourgrape> Woot!
[05:38] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Scunizi: u ROCK thanks a million
[05:38] <iMatter> i just installed clamAV and during the setup it shows this Not creating home directory `/var/lib/clamav'. WARNING: local host name (son9524-laptop) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I?
[05:38] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, :)  thanks
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, there's one group in Macon... guy does installs all over the state for schools mostly using Fedora... but i don't remember the name.
[05:38] <Jordan_U> balgarath, My dad has that same bug with IE in windows so that seems to be it :)
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> I think tux solutions
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> is the name
[05:38] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: its not LSP J. Robinson is it
[05:38] <sourgrape> Balgarath - you're right there, I think with IE intergration, it tries to connect via SMB first, probably blows up in IE4linux
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> sure is
[05:39] <FloodBot1> nomasteryoda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <sessh1234> i met him waaaaay back
[05:39] <fde> balgarath: Nah, you can type it in a terminal... look at /etc/hosts for some aliases... browsers require a protocol though... even file:// is a protocol  ;)
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> grr... not punctuating dams block my thoughts ... bots... hate hem...
[05:39] <nxusr> how do you make a statement with the *(asterik) preceding ?
[05:39] <sessh1234> lol
[05:39] <balgarath> Jordan_U, I've been away from windows for so long...I find it takes me longer to figure out problems on friend's computers.  Everytime I work on one, my decision to switch to Ubuntu gets reinforced :)
[05:39]  * sourgrape doesn't know
[05:40] <sacamano> how do you add a simple password to a wireless router? like UBUNTU. is it wpa, or wep?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, so where you now? in GA still?
[05:40] <Scunizi> nxusr, /me
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: yeah
[05:40] <sourgrape> heh I always use /action blahblah
[05:40] <InfernoX222> does anyone know if there is another 'automatic' way to download madwifi-source? apt-get install madwifi-source aptitude and synaptic all do not have it
[05:40]  * nxusr thanks Scunizi
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: i quit compunet though, they kinda sux
[05:40] <sven_oostenbrink>  I need to automate a task where I daily copy some 500 files from some 50 different directories to a remote FTP server.. Im looking at the ftp command but I don't see how I can automate that (like specifying the user name, password, etc).. How could I automate this task?
[05:40]  * Scunizi :)'s @ nxusr 
[05:40] <fde> balgarath: I don't recommend changing anything in there though unless you know what you're doing  :)
[05:40] <BROOM[A]> « Away On » Reason: sleeping « Since 12:40:am / Pager: OFF »
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: so if you know anyone hiring, plz let me know, even windows shops, lol
[05:41] <adnaps> hi there, im having troubles with with my wireless adapter automatically starting. atm i need to ifconfig ra0 up to get it working. i have added a script in init.d and done update-rc.d ifwifi default but its still not working on startup ... any ideas?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, they did not impress me. sessh1234 LOL
[05:41] <balgarath> fde, I've learned not to change a lot of things the hard way :)  (or, more specifically, backup what I am changing)
[05:41] <earthling> having problem with sify wifi.. anyone?
[05:41] <tr-33> hello, anyone here familiar with certifications?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> i would like to know of any ... but m ostly Linux shops...
[05:41] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: the ftp command does not have any syntax to automate entering of passwords and commands
[05:41] <Mathman> balgarath: eh, just know how to change it back
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> earthling, working good here... but then again, I don't use the net-applet... i use wicd
[05:41] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: well, i worked there for like 2 or three years and then they switched the linux ids stuff to sonicwall crap and i couldnt take it anymore
[05:41] <sourgrape> Sven - not that I can help, but I belive perl or another scripting language is your solution.
[05:41]  * DIL wha
[05:42] <TheToff> msg ubotu etiquette
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> nice one..
[05:42] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> then how could I automate FTP?
[05:42] <mojo> Little help please with problematic gutsy-server > hardy-server upgrade.  Server is headless.  Updated/Upgraded Gutsy and ran do-release-upgrade over an SSH connection.  Fell asleep before it finished, found SSH session terminated after sitting there prompting me about a config file update.  Had to shut down, install video card, kbd, monitor, and ran the update/upgrade & do-release-upgrade from console.  Fails to find new release.  "sudo
[05:42] <mojo> dpkg --configure -a" gives this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8828/  THANKS!
[05:42] <sourgrape> Sven - I've seen it done in Perl before, I just don't have access to those scripts anymore to show you
[05:42] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: Perhaps you may want to look at rsync instead
[05:42] <earthling> nomasteryoda: did you have atheros card
[05:43] <sven_oostenbrink> sourgrape> I could do it in PHP :) But need it done in bash
[05:43] <sourgrape> ah
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> sven its easy
[05:43] <sessh1234> lol, well thanks for all the help ppl.  i gotta go for now
[05:43] <balgarath> you guys recommend any specific hardware to go with/stay away from when building a desktop?  or and good companies that build linux computers (cheaply)?
[05:43] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: later yo
[05:43] <TheToff> Hi all, I have a problem with USB headphones after a Heron upgrade, any sound gurus about?
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> hold a sec.
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> ah... nope.. I have intel card... thought I know one person with an atheros... he's been using hardy since alpha 2
[05:43] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> rsync does FTP? one problem is, locally Im talking about 50 different directories, remote about 1 only.. and its a one way copy only as well
[05:43] <adnaps> where do i place a script to perform ifconfig ra0 up on startup?
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> Ill get you the script to ftp from the command line
[05:43] <kneeki> Before I ask here, is there a WoW channel I should ask my questions in for playing WoW on ubuntu? :)
[05:44] <sourgrape> Bal - not wanting to start a flame war... but in my limited experience - intel procs, intel chipsets, nvidia video.
[05:44] <balgarath> kneeki, #wine?
[05:44] <testify> Is it possible now, with the authentication requirement, to easily configure a static IP connection to a WPA wireless network?
[05:44] <eboyjr> theres 14 people on #wow
[05:44] <fde> mojo: please try to install lunux-image-2.6.24-server explicitly and paste the results to me, thanks
[05:44] <DIL> balgarath: tigerdirect/compusa is a good source for components ASUS mobo
[05:44] <Jordan_U> sven_oostenbrink, Can you use keys to login rather than a password?
[05:44] <kneeki> ﻿balgarath, that's probably a good start. thanks!
[05:44] <eboyjr> ##wow i mean
[05:44] <Flannel> kneeki, balgarath, it's #winehq, but see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[05:44] <Mathman> balgarath: go with supermicro boards.  intel chipsets.  seagate disks, with a good long warranty.  raid if you're able.  nvidia video cards.  good companies?  eh, you get more for your dollar just building something yourself
[05:44] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: You may find some bash scripts to modify for that purpose here http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/autoftp.shtml
[05:44] <earthling> nomasteryoda: what was your wireless card type? i ahve been trying to get atheros card working for ages and it never seemes to take off..
[05:45] <adnaps> Anyone? Where to place a script for ifconfig ra0 up for startup?
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> which model earthling ?
[05:45] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> Just heard of lftp, seems to be able to do the job
[05:45] <Don_Miguel> Hello again, it has been about 22 minutes now so trying again:
[05:45] <Don_Miguel> Repeat #1, this morning: Problem: IDE (working) partitions not visible after Gutsy net-upgrade to Hardy on SATA  Note1: those IDE still show in BIOS, Note2: but NOT in partition manager ! ... see Paste: http://pastebin.com/m6cd001d4
[05:45] <balgarath> thanks all
[05:45] <Scunizi> earthling, mine works on server install.
[05:45] <sourgrape> genii - you rule, nice link
[05:45] <amnatz> dualscreen GUI w nvidia : twinview
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, try /etc/modprobe ?
[05:45] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i was told to do this delete /boot/grub - but its says delete: comand not found - what do i use
[05:45] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> thanks, I'll check the link!
[05:45] <amnatz> thx for help sourgrape
[05:45] <genii> sourgrape: Thanks
[05:45] <amnatz> ++
[05:45] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : will try, thanks
[05:45] <Flannel> Don_Miguel: they've been mapped to SATA.  they're all sdX's now
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> look into the folder... or some files there
[05:46] <earthling> nomasteryoda: athros n5523
[05:46] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, who told you to delete /boot/grub.. that's what start your system
[05:46] <sourgrape> amnatz - well, it was worth what you paid for it :)  Good luck
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> ... if not, then look at the session manager for gnome adnaps
[05:46] <Jordan_U> N1N31NCHN41L6, By whom were you told to delete /boot/grub ? In most cases that will prevent your system from booting
[05:46] <mojo> fde::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8830/
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> down under system, session
[05:46] <Mathman> balgarath: sun puts out some really sweet systems if you want to have a name brand behind it.  hp if you don't want to spend as much as sun costs.  spose it depends on your situation really
[05:46] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: thanks, I'll go look ... again!
[05:46] <mojo> fde::  and thanks for looking :)
[05:46] <Alinon> i have the exact error message now - this is what i get when the Ubuntu partitioner begins to scan my hdd's - WARNING device /dev/dss has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU parted support this at the moment, and the working code is high experiemental.  Then it just sits where scanning but never does anything.
[05:46] <roshane> new help..i'm not getting some videos to play online
[05:46] <mojo> roshane::  format?
[05:46] <shthap3ns> hi all, i'm running HH(server). could someone kindly tell me the command to install the GUI desktop?
[05:47] <Jordan_U> roshane, Try right clicking them and "open in totem movie player"
[05:47] <balgarath> Mathman, I'll probably take your advice and build myself
[05:47] <fde> mojo: Take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list ... has it been changed to hardy?
[05:47] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i need to delete - then sudo grub-install /dev/sda  then sudo update-grub - i got 2 os and the grub only lets me run one
[05:47] <Flannel> shthap3ns: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <roshane> flash
[05:47] <mojo> shthap3ns::  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <shthap3ns> thanks, Flannel!
[05:47] <Flannel> shthap3ns: You'll (probably) also want to switch to the generic kernel, if you plan on using this as a desktop machine
[05:47] <earthling> nomasteryoda: its a wireless ethernet adapter. not a wifi card you put in the laptop slot but one that has a big antena that goes to the roof top. SUB-326 i guess
[05:47] <sourgrape> balgarath - nothing like cutting your hands on your own PC's sheet metal case =)
[05:47] <Alinon> anyone have a clue as to what the deal is? i've never had problems installing ubuntu until 8.04
[05:47] <fde> mojo: Also, in this particular case, don't use aptitude, it is far better in most cases, but may be compounding the issue currently...
[05:47] <N1N31NCHN41L6> any ideas
[05:47] <dragonSteel> yo
[05:47] <Jaggednz> roshane: Installed Ubuntu extras ?
[05:48] <eboyjr> Flannel, you are on here a lot, correct?
[05:48] <balgarath> sourgrape, been there :)
[05:48] <shthap3ns> Flannel: i'm still going to run it as a server. i'm just too noob to use the command line :(
[05:48] <bjron> hmm,  just installed xubuntu on a machine and it seems the max resolution is 600x800 according to display settings.  I had a look at the xorg.conf and it seems pretty minimal these days (no mention of allowed resolutions even), so where is the settings manager getting them?
[05:48] <BIOHazard87> Hey all :)
[05:48] <roshane> jaggednz not sure
[05:48] <Jordan_U> roshane, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get remove gnash #In case you have gnash and unless you actually want it
[05:48] <Flannel> shthap3ns: Ah, you may want xubuntu-desktop then instead, it's more lightweight
[05:48] <Mathman> balgarath: you get the same support really, warranties and all that.  but then if you need 200 systems by next week, well, I dunno.
[05:48] <earthling> Scunizi: what did u mean by server install?
[05:48] <N1N31NCHN41L6> fde - when installing anothoe desktop aptitude works great for me
[05:48] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, maybe just try the update gub line
[05:48] <Flannel> eboyjr: that's a safe assumption
[05:48] <eboyjr> Why is there an op called FloodBot1?
[05:48] <ubuntuROX> sven,, accept that file, its has the bash script for ftp
[05:48] <sourgrape> mmmm Xubuntu... crunchy goodness
[05:48] <Starnestommy> eboyjr: it's used to stop flooding
[05:48] <N1N31NCHN41L6> after the install - there is NO gub on my puppy linux os
[05:49] <BIOHazard87> Does anyone have problems with their Volume Manager crashing in Ubuntu 8.04,  which breaks sound, also it prevents you from pressing the Power button on the top right
[05:49] <Scunizi> earthling, I have server installed and running on wireless
[05:49] <shthap3ns> Flannel: gotcha. so: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, It's a bot which bans people if they start flooding, the human ops all op themselves only when needed
[05:49] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: Aptitude is awesome... I use it almost exclusively, but it tries to install Suggests by default, and thus widens the realm of the possible issues...
[05:49] <eboyjr> Starnestommy, Oh, okay lol
[05:49] <Flannel> shthap3ns: Yep
[05:49] <mojo> fde::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8831/  (short answer yes)
[05:49] <Scunizi> earthling, w/ atheros chipset
[05:49] <kravlin> I just upgraded to Hardy. Unfortunately the sudo command returns sudo: unable to resolve host Evidence. While evidence is the name of the computer i'm kinda stuck. can someone help?
[05:49] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: There is a switch to turn it off, but meh
[05:49] <shthap3ns> Flannel: thanks much!
[05:49] <Flannel> !hostname | kravlin
[05:49] <earthling> Scunizi: great !!! how are you making it work?
[05:49] <Flannel> kravlin: you can reboot to the recovery console to fix it if you need to
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> earthling, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473379&page=4
[05:50] <Alinon> whenever i try to install Ubuntu, i boot from the disc, then i get to the point where the partitioner starts ﻿then i get this message:  WARNING device /dev/dss has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU parted support this at the moment, and the working code is high experiemental.  Then it just sits where scanning but never does anything.
[05:50] <Scunizi> earthling, I had to install the restricted drivers
[05:50] <fde> mojo: update and try to reinstall that package perhaps?
[05:50] <kravlin> Flannel: the question is how do i fix it.
[05:50] <Jaggednz> roshane: Ubuntu restricted extras
[05:50] <mojo> fde::  E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.24-server
[05:50] <mojo>   (using apt-get to install
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> earthling, following the methods of ndiswrapper it would seem... should do it... get the windows driver from the mfg site and using ndiswrapper
[05:50] <Mathman> kravlin: eh, /etc/hosts is all that matters I bet really.  unless you went mucking about with /etc/nsswitch.conf or something.  but yeah, it wouldn't hurt to get all that junk consistent anyhow.
[05:50] <earthling> nomasteryoda: going throughnit now
[05:50] <N1N31NCHN41L6> fde - just saying i had betterl luck installing xubuntu deskyop with aptitutude
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:51] <testify> Is it still not possible to setup a static IP wireless WPA network using network-manager?
[05:51] <roshane> Jordan_U install the flashplugin and its still not working
[05:51] <N1N31NCHN41L6> hey why would a comp run faster with ubuntu and compiz than it did just straight xubuntu
[05:51] <Jordan_U> mojo, sudo apt-get install linux-image-server
[05:51] <mojo> fde::  what is the proper package name?  i'd check w/synaptic on my desktop but it's amd64 arch vs i386 on the server
[05:51] <roshane> Jordan_U its just saying loading
[05:51] <fde> mojo: There is no reason it shouldn't be able to find that package after 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-16-server
[05:51] <Flannel> kravlin: the info ubottu gave you talks about how to fix it
[05:51] <Jordan_U> roshane, Can you give an example link?
[05:51] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: the only SDs I see are those from the original Gutsy install ... and none of the IDEs appear now.  Any hints for finding them again ?
[05:51] <earthling> nomasteryoda: i tried ndiswraper.. i have amd64.. could that be that i require 64bit driver?
[05:52] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : where in modprobe.d?
[05:52] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: define faster
[05:52] <Flannel> Don_Miguel: All of your IDE drives should be in /dev/ under sdX, do `sudo fdisk -l`
[05:52] <Fezzler> I upgraded to Hardy.  Where do I check my monitor is correctly selected?  Desktop Effects EXTRA! doesn't work anymore.
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> hang on adnaps
[05:52] <roshane> Jordan_U http://video.xnxx.com/video15432/Hot_Girls_by_the_Pool not the best link but hey
[05:52] <balgarath> OT, but anyone know of a good writeup explaining all the different intel processors? I've not kept up at all
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> earthling, if there is one... i would try it...
[05:52] <fde> mojo: ahh... throw the -16- part in when explicitly installing it...
[05:52] <Flannel> balgarath: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place for that
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> if you are using 64bit version of ubuntu
[05:52] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Mathman: everything from program response time to opening a terminal to computing to office functions
[05:52] <DIL> Alinon, how is your disk formatted
[05:53] <balgarath> Flannel, will do
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, would be a better place for the ifup command... under networking
[05:53] <Shadow_X> how do I change the resolution used when Ubuntu shows its splash screen during bootup?
[05:53] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: OK, going to try that  sudo fdisk -l     thanks ...
[05:53] <DATmafia> if i screwed up my resolution so i can't read it-how do u change it back really quickl
[05:53] <earthling> nomasteryoda,Scunizi: thanks people .. if it works out i will let u know!!!
[05:53] <Jordan_U> roshane, Works fine here :) ( but in the future please don't post questionable links, this channel is supposed to be 'family friendly )
[05:53] <Hellsadvocate> hey guys, quick question, in ubuntu for my macbook pro, everytime i try to close the lid while ubuntu is on, it makes this High pitched sound.
[05:53] <ubuntuROX> put the backup copy of xorg.conf you made before you screwed it up back :)
[05:54] <fde> mojo: The original command correctly attempted that though, but I'm guessing it hadn't updated yet at that point...
[05:54] <DATmafia> :)
[05:54] <N1N31NCHN41L6> so know idea on what to use instead of the command delete
[05:54] <ruben> Hi all. We had a problem with our windows2K server and I had to come up with a new server. I used ubuntu. The server has 2 partitions. In one of them we installed a program, but since we no longer have Terminal Services, we cant open it.
[05:54] <TheToff> HH sound problem:  I can get my USB headphones working under some applications but not others.  Prior to upgrade VLC worked fine with them, now not so much.  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> roshane, Did you also check to make sure that gnash was not installed?
[05:54] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: rm ?
[05:54] <roshane> Jordan_U sorry, i just couldnt find a better example because youtube works fine
[05:54] <adnaps> ﻿nomasteryoda : yes, i added ifconfig ra0 to interfaces in /etc/network/ but it didnt do a thing
[05:54] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: short answer?  gnome with compiz works better than xfce on your setup.  at least seemingly at any rate.  hate to nitpick, but I don't suppose you've been very scientific about your benchmarks here.
[05:54] <ruben> Is it possible to install something like terminal services to share that windows program under ubuntu?
[05:54] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: rm -r or rmdir removes directories...
[05:54] <mojo> fde::  Jordan_U::  see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8833/
[05:55] <mojo> fde::  i did the sudo aptitude update
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, ok.. so did you have to issue a modprobe for that wireless driver?
[05:55] <Jordan_U> roshane, That sounds like gnash, it works with youtube but not most other sites, please try removing gnash
[05:55] <adnaps> ﻿nomasteryoda : nope, after compiling the driver i had to insmod but never had to modprobe it
[05:55] <roshane> Jordan_U how do i do that?
[05:55] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Mathman: how can i be scientific - xubuntu used to lock up all the time - ubuntu and compiz DONT
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ah... so is it loaded now?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> roshane, sudo apt-get remove gnash
[05:56] <N1N31NCHN41L6> and its a PIII with 256RAM
[05:56] <AnthroTechie> Hey, I just upgraded to 8.04 and have installed advanced-desktop-effects-settings, but I it still says "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[05:56] <fde> mojo: At that point, I'd have you take a look at the post-inst script... and at least have it pointing to the right file, but I'd rather not assist someone else with that...
[05:56] <adnaps> ﻿nomasteryoda : im using it :p i just want it to start automatically and be recognised by network manager
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ic
[05:56] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: well now you're changing the whole story around anyway.  I thought xfce was just slow.  now it's crashing all the time.
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> doh
[05:56] <fde> mojo: My public answer: Backup important files, and reinstall .... apologies
[05:57] <Hellsadvocate> Anyone? know how to solve this?
[05:57] <Fezzler> It seems like when I turn on Extra Visual Effects it changes my Advanced Desktop Setting and visa versa
[05:57] <roshane> Jordan_U what should i see to know that it was successfully removed?
[05:57] <mojo> fde::  i run webmin on it and backed up the modules i use.  is that enough?
[05:57] <fde> mojo: I have no idea as I refuse to use webmin...
[05:58] <Xulthus> why not
[05:58] <Mathman> Hellsadvocate: screw around with the bios?  change it from s1 to s3 or whatever as far as the apci hibernate or whatever the heck goes?
[05:58] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Permission denied
[05:58] <adnaps> ﻿nomasteryoda : for some reason my network manager isnt loading anymore either :( but before i had to right click > disable networking then right click > enable networking to get it to recognise
[05:58] <fde> mojo: backing up /etc/ and whatever services you have should be enough.
[05:58] <mojo> you have a better suggestion for admin of a headless server/router?
[05:58] <z0rz> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy Gibson and I installed mybuntu-desktop.  It told me the sql password and I clicked forward.  It said the installation was complete (but I never got the screen that asked if I wanted to setup a frontend/backend) so I rebooted.  Now instead of a ubuntu logo on boot I have the mythbuntu logo... and it get's stuck there
[05:58] <fde> mojo: ssh
[05:58] <roshane> Jordan_U its still just saying loading
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, did you try installing wicd instead?
[05:58] <mojo> fde::  i use that too
[05:58] <ubuntuROX> Does anyone know if the 64bit version is pretty stable and works well with flash and the usual stuff now?
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> its on wicd.sourceforge.net
[05:58] <Jordan_U> mojo, I might be able to help, wait a second
[05:58] <adnaps> ﻿nomasteryoda : i have not ... ill give it a go now
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> just my suggestion
[05:59] <mojo> fde::  webmin makes some easier for me, esp. squid and shorewall
[05:59] <fde> mojo: Webmin tends to break things for me, and isn't at all secure.
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> it will remove net-applet...
[05:59] <anachronoks> I've been having some serious problems with Hardy that weren't present with Feisty. Mostly related to audio/video, but also where Firefox crashes and brings down the entire system.
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> adnaps,
[06:00] <adnaps> yup, hardy here to
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  rock on then :)
[06:00] <anachronoks> Anyone had anything like that happen?
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:00] <z0rz> Does mythbuntu-desktop modify grub in anyway?
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: beats the heck out of me.  and fedora was disappointing me today as far as that junk goes.  although in fedora's defense that has worked quite well in the past
[06:00] <fde> mojo: webmin was actually dropped from Debian a while ago due to its insecurity...
[06:00] <Xulthus> fde why you don't use webmin?
[06:00] <adnaps> spent hours patching my driver to get it to compile :p
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, it works well and you can have any script you want in the controls.. follow their directions
[06:00] <Fezzler> I'm not sure my Nvidia card is running correctly after upgrade to 8.04
[06:00] <adnaps> ok
[06:00] <Jordan_U> mojo, 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:00] <mojo> fde::  with shorewall refusing external connects, shoudl that be a problem?  i run this as a home server and router.
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: but really, it's not that hard to throw firefox, flash, java, and whatever into your home directory
[06:00] <bobbie4> Ubuntu Rules!!!!
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> good ... you know what to do then.. dave yates of lottalinuxlinks recommends it too..
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  64bit (amd athlon 64 x2 3600+
[06:00] <Hellsadvocate> I love Ubuntu. So far i've fixed every problem i've come across
[06:00] <anachronoks> Anyone else had Firefox crash and bring down the whole system in Hardy? I installed from scratch so it couldn't be just me.
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  DOH!!!!  My bad, that's the desktop!  The server is i386/32bit
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> Hellsadvocate, sweet
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: not that I'd advise going with that over something simple like apt-get install foo.  but still...
[06:00] <roshane> mojo thats my specs
[06:00] <ubuntuROX> yea, I was thinking about trying 64bit again, but last time it was so hit or miss I decided to stick with 32 bit.
[06:00] <Hellsadvocate> Biggest problem: High pitched noise when i try to shut the lid while my macbook pro is on.
[06:00] <fde> mojo: Nothing should be trying to connect, so no... take a look at apt-proxy though if you have multiple machines running Ubuntu.
[06:00] <adnaps> thanks mate, i normally wouldnt have asked but it just wasnt making sense. i though it may have been a hardy issue
[06:00] <oddalot> albert hofmann is dead
[06:01] <Mathman> Hellsadvocate: so yeah, pay no attention to me then.  fair enough
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> is ubotu still sleeping?
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> !test
[06:01] <Fezzler> Where do I check that I have the right monitor installed?  Using 8,04
[06:01] <Hellsadvocate> Mathman
[06:01] <wolferine> someone willing to give me two mins to mount my SATA HDs?
[06:01] <Hellsadvocate> hahah sorry man
[06:01] <Jordan_U> mojo, OK, do you mind trying something that has a chance of making things worse?
[06:01] <AngryElf> After a clean install of 8.04 GRUB isn't recognizing the hard disk that I installed it to
[06:01] <AngryElf> somethign is saying "Error 21 - device doesn't exist", if I edit the line it's (hd2)
[06:01] <Mathman> Fezzler: say what?  the right monitor?  the right monitor is the one you like to look at.  and the one that preferablly works with the linux distro you happen to be running
[06:01] <patifa> wolferine: Do you know what errors you are getting?
[06:02] <Xulthus> wow
[06:02] <Xulthus> I'm suprised.
[06:02] <mojo> fde::  i have thought about apt-proxy but the server is the only i386 and my desktop is amd64, so wouldn't that be a problem?  I do intend to build a mythbox next (very soon) and was gonna use it for that (it's also i386, will use mythbuntu)
[06:02] <fde> Jordan_U: Go ahead and say it, and I'll be a buffer for whether it'll work or break things  :)
[06:02] <mojo> Jordan_U::  shoot
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, then grub is pointing to the wrong partition ... or drive or both
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> i've seen that before
[06:02] <legend2440> oddalot: sad he was only 102
[06:02] <anachronoks> Is there a webpage with known issues for 8.04?
[06:02] <mojo> Jordan_U::  reconfiguring it will be a PITA but it can be done if I have to
[06:02] <wolferine> patifa, no error, mount -a works fine...
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, how many partitions do you have on that drive?
[06:02] <Fezzler> Math: But under 7.10 I could check that it installed correct monito Acer AL511 and not, let's say, Dell 990
[06:03] <Mathman> Fezzler: spose you're asking how you can know your xorg.conf is right as far as your monitor goes?  is that it?
[06:03] <fde> mojo: Yes, unfortunately...
[06:03] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: default install/setup on that drive so, 5?
[06:03] <oddalot> yeah, i should live to like 200 if it helps with old age HEH
[06:03] <Fezzler> Math:  Yes.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> mojo, fde first, and this should be completely safe download http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.24-16-server_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb and run "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb"
[06:03] <mojo> fde::  thought as much.  but kept in mind for as machines get added to the net
[06:04] <Fezzler> Math: I used to be able to check using System>Administration
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, so you would have windows, linux root, home, swap and something extra
[06:04] <DATmafia> i fixed the screen resolution issues
[06:04] <fde> Jordan_U: Why would that break things? You're just doing what apt does automatically  :)
[06:04] <DATmafia> in virtual box
[06:04] <AnthroTechie> I'm having trouble getting my desktop effects to work, I already installed Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[06:04] <david__--> im new to linux,can someone guide me through the installation process of ddreamweaver please
[06:04] <Mathman> Fezzler: yeah, well.  X config files are one of those black arts.  meaning once you get that junk working, back up your xorg.conf when you go and reinstall.  if you didn't do that, well...
[06:04] <N1N31NCHN41L6> it WILL NOT let me delete /grub
[06:04] <Mathman> Fezzler: I guess try running an "X -configure" as root.  if that even works anymore...
[06:04] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: fresh clean install of just 8.04, no windows i dont know how many partitions that is
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, you can edit the grub before it starts all the way.. .hit "Esc"
[06:04] <wolferine> patifa,  /dev/sdb5       /media/500      auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8        0       0
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:04] <Jordan_U> fde, That's why I said "First, and this should be perfectly safe..." :)
[06:04] <anachronoks> Wow, 45,000 bugs for Ubuntu on Launchpad
[06:04] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : wicd deb package installed and no need for configuration ... got everything first go :) thanks champ
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, enjoy mate
[06:05] <ChatterboX> hello all
[06:05] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if i'm in an ssh session, isnt' ther a way to xfer a file thru it?
[06:05] <AnthroTechie> hey
[06:05] <Fezzler> Math: I don't follow.  Everything after upgrade seems ok except Visual Effects and my beloved rotating desk cub
[06:05] <fde> Jordan_U: I think the issue is with his apt though... I do not know why it can't find the package itself... and it likely isn't just for this package...
[06:05] <phillipsjk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org is the new way to configure X
[06:05] <Mathman> Fezzler: that and try and look up the specs on your monitor.  the xorg.conf file isn't actually as nutty as I'm making it out to be.  if you can find the refresh rates for the thing and plug those in to your xorg.conf file, then you're basically set as far as the monitor goes.
[06:05] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if not i can wget it direct to that box
[06:05] <N1N31NCHN41L6> phillipsjk: it works great to
[06:05] <anachronoks> Speaking of that, does anyone remember the Compiz effect that was essentially like Expose on the Mac?
[06:06] <z0rz> I just did an apt-get upgrade and now my machine won't boot.  It stalls at the Ubuntu loading screen for a while and then instead of going into gdm it says BusyBox v1.1.3 and then (initramfs) _
[06:06] <anachronoks> I wonder why that's not installed by default.
[06:06] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: should it really be "hd2" for a scsi drive -- i tried changing it to sd2 but then i got an error parsing the line
[06:06] <Fezzler> Math: Where is xorg.conf located?
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, hit the "e" key to edit a line in Grub menu.... say edit the root=(hd0,0) and
[06:06] <DATmafia> AnthroTechie did u go to system-preferences-appearance preferances- Visual effect tab
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:06] <Mathman> Fezzler: but heck, these days you're probably better off leaving that refresh stuff absent and letting X autoconfigure everything anyway.
[06:06] <Fezzler> MAth: etc?
[06:06] <fde> Jordan_U: His sources.list is pointed at hardy ... and he has aptitude update'd ... so there is no reason
[06:06] <z0rz> I think it has something to do with all-generic-ide flag not being in grub.. but I can't get it to boot with that either...
[06:06] <Jordan_U> mojo, You don't need to, you already have the .deb on the machine, I was just being lazy in not wanting to remember where they are stored :)
[06:06] <patifa> david__--: In macromedia's zeal to prevent unlicensed use of their software, they've put in enough digital restrictions management to make it nearly impossible to legitimately run Dreamweaver in Linux
[06:06] <DATmafia> and select what type of effects u want o have enabled
[06:06] <Hellsadvocate> fezzeler: go to terminal, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, should be hd1 for second drive
[06:06] <Fezzler> Math: I'm cool with that.
[06:06] <anachronoks> I run Flash in Linux, it's not hard
[06:06] <z0rz> Anyone?
[06:06] <Mathman> Fezzler: /etc/X11/xorg.conf typically.  but then I'm not a debian guy, so perhaps not
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, as first drive would be hd0
[06:06] <Hellsadvocate> Math's right.
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> z0rz, someone will help you...
[06:07] <patifa> z0rs do you know how to modify GRUB's bootup?
[06:07] <DrifterSX> mneptok
[06:07] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: booting, thanx
[06:07] <DrifterSX> u in here?
[06:07] <david__--> patifa:ok,so even if i have it already from my desktop its no use?
[06:07] <CloudFX> patifa: ill take u though it
[06:07] <david__--> just delete?
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, and you can then permanently edit it from inside ubuntu
[06:07] <patifa> CloudFX: talk to david__--
[06:07] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah but I think I maybe be adding all-generic-ide to the wrong line
[06:07] <Mathman> Fezzler: and well, I couldn't tell you what X config app debian goes with either, but it sounds like that junk isn't working out anyhow, so there you go.
[06:07] <z0rz> Do I add it to root (hd0,0) or the kernel line?
[06:07] <patifa> not the root line
[06:07] <patifa> add it to the one with the long UUID string
[06:08] <z0rz> didn't htink so
[06:08] <patifa> which should be #2
[06:08] <z0rz> I'm booting in recovery mode now
[06:08] <z0rz> I'll see where it get's hun
[06:08] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote?
[06:08] <Jordan_U> fde, It doesn't seem to be a problem with not being able to find a package but rather a file that should be provided in the kernel package is not found causing the configure script to fail, I was going to suggest trying to dpkg-deb -x the package then try configuring again
[06:08] <anachronoks> The biggest problem I'm having with Hardy is the instability. System goes down completely and you can't do anything.
[06:08] <z0rz> hung*
[06:08] <Mathman> z0rz: the root directive, and I'm assuming grub here, that just tells grub where the grub config junk and whatnot is stored.
[06:08] <patifa> but, z0rs try removing splash and quiet
[06:08] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: that doesn't permanently edit it?
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, err... ok.. never had such here...
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, nope...
[06:08] <patifa> I think the recovery had a 'quiet' in it, I can't rememeber
[06:09] <Mathman> x1250: ha, packard bell?  what are you running?  a 486?
[06:09] <z0rz> It looks like it's getting stuck at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[06:09] <z0rz> "
[06:09] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: I did a fresh install from the CD and haven't added any apps except for xchat..
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, just  open a terminal... and "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" ... and ad that change
[06:09] <AngryElf> thanx
[06:09] <patifa> Is your CDROM using SATA?
[06:09] <z0rz> Right after it said dev hda: unable to read RDB block 0 unable to read partition table
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, did you have any such issue with the live cd>
[06:09] <bjron> hmm, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't give me options to specify resolutions.  Is there a new way that X gets the screen resolution?
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> ?
[06:09] <z0rz> patifa: no
[06:10] <patifa> Are you using SATA at all, z0rz?
[06:10] <AnthroTechie> DATmafia- yes I did
[06:10] <rgravener> my live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sleep-time
[06:10] <voidmage> I have wine set up in a virtual desktop to run games. When I run a full screen game, the "wine system tray" floats over the full screen window
[06:10] <Mathman> rgravener: thanks!!!
[06:10] <z0rz> Everything was working fine until I did an apt-get update and tried to install mythbuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Fezzler> What are all the other xorg.conf files I see?
[06:10] <arooni__> i'm back;  i'm connected to the interwebs on my laptop through wpa personal.... but my poor gutsy desktop can't connect >>>  it prompted me for the password but then it just spinns around adoes nothing :(
[06:10] <arooni__> ideas?
[06:10] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah I have 1 pata and 2 sata hard drives
[06:10] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote?
[06:10] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: No, it doesn't happen that often, maybe once a day. But it always seems to be when Firefox is open so I think that might have something to do with it
[06:10] <patifa> ahh
[06:10] <mojo> Jordan_U::  well i have the package on the server now, so should i proceed with installing it?
[06:10] <Fezzler> xorg.conf.1  .2 .3 etc.
[06:11] <patifa> z0rz what motherboard are you running therE?
[06:11] <patifa> *there
[06:11] <Mathman> z0rz: ha, yikes.  and you're saying you can't boot after that?  the mythubuntu junk would have nothing to do with that at any rate
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, i would recommend finding the firefox 2.0.0.x and installing it... if you want stable... firefox 3 b5 has issues ... on ubuntu for sure...
[06:11] <Jordan_U> mojo, Yes, and if it fails ( it most likely will ) try
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> i've seen that too
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> not an Ubunut issue
[06:11] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: okay, will try that, thanks
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> but should not have shipped that way ... imho
[06:12] <z0rz> patifa: It's an Asus A8N-VM CSM
[06:12] <patifa> oh yeah
[06:12] <patifa> that's mine
[06:12] <patifa> err, close
[06:12] <z0rz> nice
[06:12] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: ubuntu follows debian unstable, no?  everything ships that way
[06:12] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: took me a bit to double-check, and after doing "sudo fdisk -l", it looks like two[2] of my USB  sticks are listed as  sdd/sdd1 & sde/sde1 but there is NO listing as for SDB at 160 GB !!
[06:12] <Fezzler> is there a command line way to tell ubuntu to recheck and reinstall my graphics card and monitor ?
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, not exactly.. but very close
[06:13] <z0rz> I think it's because grub is calling my pata drive by a UUID and something changed the uuid
[06:13] <AngieBTSea> having some problems making my sounds go where I want them to, does anyone know about Ubuntu sound stuff?
[06:13] <patifa> z0rz add pci=nomsi for now to the startup, and join the club at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/190492
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, just reporting my findings...
[06:13] <patifa> I'm collecting the steady stream of this bug, there.
[06:13] <Mathman> Fezzler: sorta.  like I said, a "X -configure" has been doing wonders for me lately
[06:13] <timandtom> On the off chance that I go completely insane and/or suffer brain damage, is there a way to get IE to work in 7.10?
[06:13] <Fezzler> I think a generic Nvida driver is installed and not using full features of my card
[06:13] <mojo> Jordan_U::  interesting results.  Look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834/
[06:14] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: least we get, what?  3 years of updates this time around
[06:14] <patifa> z0rs: you can also try irqpoll, it seemed to boot on that for me but I had some stability issues, so I went back to pci=nomsi
[06:14] <Deepthought> Fezzler: to get full features on nvidia you have to install restricted driver
[06:14] <Mathman> Fezzler: ha, well get X working first, then worry about the 3d junk
[06:14] <AngryElf> okay, I upgraded to 8.04 and my box got all hosey, slow, crappy, so I did a fresh install and it's still the same way - what's the deal?  All I can really say is that it's choppy and slow on the command line
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, yup... 3 and 5 on server... Ubuntu is the best new user Linux around... and i've been using since warty
[06:15] <Fezzler> Deep: there is an NVIDIA restricted drive installed.  I'm not sure it is configured right
[06:15] <z0rz> patifa: I don't think that's my problem
[06:15] <timandtom> AngryElf: 8.04 has bird flu.
[06:15] <AngryElf> ?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, some bug i've seen... heron flu
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> joke
[06:15] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: eh, an old school guy might tell you mandriva.  but ok.
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mojo, What is the situation exactly? Is there something strange about how this is installed?
[06:15] <z0rz> Is there a way to rebuild the grub.conf without a boot cd?
[06:15] <Deepthought> Fezzler: Why do you think it' s not right ?
[06:15] <AngryElf> different kernel maybe?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mojo, Actually, I need to leave for about 15 minutes, will you still be here?
[06:16] <patifa> why rebuild it, z0rz?
[06:16] <cesar_bo> Hi; i just upgrade to hardy, and has no sound on Flash (youtube specifically), anyone has the same issue?
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, debian unstable.. or sidux is good... but i don't like the iceweasel so i go with ubuntu ... looking at yoper... looks very good too
[06:16] <patifa> just boot and modify the magic lines, when you update it again it'll add the pci=nomsi everywhere
[06:16] <timandtom> AngryElf: Might be, I don't know. But both me and my friend have issues with it, so I went back to 7.10.
[06:16] <z0rz> because it says my hard drives UUID doesn't exist
[06:16] <patifa> oh
[06:16] <anachronoks> cesar_bo: same problem here
[06:16] <Mathman> cesar_bo: you have sound in general though?
[06:16] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if not i will be back shortly.  I'll post some stats for you on config.
[06:16] <patifa> I dunno how to regenerate them :S
[06:16] <timandtom> On the off chance that I go completely insane and/or suffer brain damage, is there a way to get IE to work in 7.10?
[06:16] <AngryElf> timandtom: similar issues i just described?
[06:16] <cesar_bo> ﻿Mathman: yes, on everything less youtube
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> timandtom, sure... called ies4linux
[06:16] <Fezzler> Deep: It shows up in Sysinfo but doesn't show Ram installed and Display Settings button does nothing
[06:16] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: all depends on what you're after.  I thought we were talking newbie distros though
[06:17] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah it takes a bit with a boot cd... I've done it several times about a year ago.. I was hoping to just boot without a cd
[06:17] <Jordan_U> mojo, bye
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, oh, yeah... slipped into geekmode
[06:17] <patifa> z0rz I ended up changing fstab to directly refer to my hard drives, in their order. (it'll break probably if I add another HD, but it boots)
[06:17] <amrik> Hi, so in Firefox 3b5 64-bit using flashplugin-nonfree sometimes flash embedded stuff shows up completely grey and does not work whereas sometimes it works. Is there a workaround?
[06:17] <AngieBTSea> Mathman, are you a sound expert?
[06:17] <timandtom> AngryElf: Wireless randomly stopped working(Until RIGHT before I went to format), and was overall just way worse performance. Plus I didn't like the default background as much :)
[06:17] <timandtom> nomasteryoda: Awesome, thanks!
[06:17] <Mathman> cesar_bo: beats me then.  sound is crap on linux.  all I know.  but at any rate, least we've established that sound isn't screwed on the most basic level.
[06:17] <Fezzler> Deep: After upgrading to 8.04 my Visual Effects and Cube desktop stuff doesn't work
[06:18] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: not I
[06:18] <z0rz> patifa: That also may be what happend..  I added a new hard drive a few reboots ago... but it's been booting fine (until I did the upgrade)
[06:18] <Deepthought> Fezzler: (don't forget to press tab after typing deep or dee to complete my nickname, else I don' t get a ring and hughlight and might miss your answer)
[06:18] <patifa> yeah, z0rs, I'm not sure what breaks it there.
[06:18] <legend2440> timandtom: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:18] <Fezzler> Deepthought: ok
[06:18] <cesar_bo> Mathman: ... could be the pulseaudio ?
[06:18] <paijo13> hi all. is there any hardy iso that contain only the base system?
[06:18] <AngieBTSea> Okay Mathman, I will keep fishing :) sound is being disagreeable
[06:18] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Learn something new!
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> cesar_bo, i've seen before with flash and firefox... there is a fix
[06:19] <timandtom> legend2440: Thanks!
[06:19] <Mathman> cesar_bo: I dunno.  seems like f8 had pulse audio.  flash worked on there for me.
[06:19] <Judeglass> is there a common reason why when editing in vi my arrow keys insert characters instead of moving the cursor?
[06:19] <Deepthought> Fezzler: to get desktop things again install 'advanced desktop settings' (synaptic), and switch' mo on in there
[06:19] <Fezzler> Deepthought: I did.
[06:19] <timandtom> Fezzler: :D Ubuntu has cube desktop stuffs? Whats it called? My brother saw a screenshot of vista doing it the other day, wants to try it.
[06:19] <anachronoks> the problem that i have is totem and firefox don't seem to want to share audio. it works in both separately, but not at the same time
[06:20] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: while I'm not expert, you'd at least stand a better chance if you explained a bit further than just "sound is being disagreeable"
[06:20] <yuiyui> how can i set different resolution for my dual monitors? im using ATI card and installed the ATI Catalyst  Control center
[06:20] <anachronoks> i wonder if it's because of pulseaudio
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> Mathman, sound will come out USB for some applications
[06:20] <cappicard> hrmm... timidity's being a pain: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> USB headphones
[06:20] <Mathman> timandtom: and...no.  it's called compiz fusion these days.  and no, vista doesn't do it.
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, you should be able to make totem "use" oss or alsa
[06:20] <Deepthought> Fezzler: the display settings don' t work with restricted, that's normal, use nvidia-settings, must be in settings menu (or the other sys menu, not sure) or in the terminal 'sudo nvidia-settings
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> but for other applications, it comes out the computer's built in speakers
[06:20] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Seem like after I turn on Visual Effects "Extras" and then set Desktop Cube and Rotate and close, it knocks Visual Effects to off
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> which share sound well enough for me
[06:20] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if it' s not there, install it too
[06:20] <yuiyui> but i can't set different resolution.
[06:21] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: ha, yeah, but hey, I gave it a shot.
[06:21] <AngieBTSea> and on 7.10 it was more agreeable
[06:21] <sessh1234> k, one more quick question
[06:21] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: okay, i'll try it, thanks x 2 :)
[06:21] <sitanxin> hi,it`s my first to be here
[06:21] <timandtom> Mathman: Well maybe not by default... But I've seen plenty of screenshots of Vista with a cube of desktops(Thats what we're talking about, right? Or did I get it confused with something else?)
[06:21] <NemesisD> my panel has disappeared, how do i create a new one?
[06:21] <GhotiPhud> ﻿sitanxin: welcome
[06:21] <Shadow_X> how do I change the resolution used when Ubuntu shows its splash screen during bootup?
[06:21] <fde> Fezzler: By "Advanced Desktop Settings" I think he means either gnome-compiz-manager or gconf-editor  :)
[06:21] <sessh1234> if i install a package and it installs dependancies, then i uninstall the package, how can i remove the dependancies that were installed?
[06:21] <corinth> Welcome, sistanxin. :)
[06:21] <Fezzler> Deepthought: But some of the Advanced Desktop features work.  Just not Cube stuff
[06:21] <timandtom> Mathman: Or maybe someone made they're XP look like Vista, i dunno :(
[06:21] <Mathman> timandtom: I'd guess the latter.  but who knows.  I used to run kde on windows at one poit
[06:21] <mike> Hello, I had a question
[06:22] <Mathman> point rather
[06:22] <fde> Fezzler: Or ccsm - it has a less neat GUI though...
[06:22] <sessh1234> kinda like gentoo's emerge --depclean
[06:22] <corinth> * sitanxin
[06:22] <NemesisD> nm found it
[06:22] <wolferine> have a question or two, about setting up an ftpd, when setting up, do you 'have' to create a new user, and you limit that user, or can you do it, without making the user.. ?
[06:22] <CloudFX> NemesisD: if only one of the 2 default ones were closed you should be able to right click the remaining one and choose "new panel"
[06:22] <sitanxin> why not talk?
[06:22] <timandtom> Mathman: Ah, cool, well, thanks :D I'll be sure to tell my bro.
[06:22] <Mathman> timandtom: well, that and I can only guess here what you mean by "cube of desktops".  but that certainly sounds like compiz fusion.
[06:22] <rgravener> no one wants to watch me live and chat?
[06:22] <Fezzler> Deepthought: So do what?
[06:22] <timandtom> Mathman: Like, a cube, with a desktop on each face
[06:22] <milly1234> why two panels? it takes up more room, never understood that
[06:23] <cesar_bo> this is a pain !!! why I can get the sound on youtube ... :(
[06:23] <jm1> a
[06:23] <o0Chris0o> rgravener: only if your female
[06:23] <fde> Off topic things of a social nature go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:23] <cesar_bo> sorry, "I can not get"
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: I wouldn't know then, but it doesn' t sound like stuff is wrong, just play around with settings and read the helps; not everything always works
[06:23] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Bouncy widows and other frivalities work
[06:23] <Mathman> timandtom: wikipedia my friend.  and youtube or some nonsense.  type in compiz fusion or something and you'll probably find what you're after.
[06:23] <mike> If anyone could help me out I appreciate it; I am trying to get my wireless card to detect networks.  It sais it is disabled when I find the hardware under lshd in terminal.
[06:23] <anachronoks> cesar_bo: try installing a different browser and see if it makes a difference
[06:23] <NemesisD> jesus, hardy really seems to do a number on my systems
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: then the driver etc is really ok
[06:23] <anachronoks> i just installed epiphany to try it
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: did you find the nvidia settings?
[06:23] <Fezzler> Deepthought: HMMM  But no Cube?
[06:23] <NemesisD> did hardy get rid of the restricted drvers manager or something? i can't find it
[06:24] <Mathman> ha.  this channel is madness.  kinda like gentoo back in the day
[06:24] <Fezzler> Deepthought: No.  WHere?
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> where can i talk to ubuntu developers?
[06:24] <AngieBTSea> My sound will not go where I want it to.  Right now it comes through the headphones for some applications but for others it will only come out the built in speakers
[06:24] <sessh1234> Mathman: do you know of an ubuntu equivalent for emerge --depclean?
[06:24] <fde> NemesisD: No, renamed it... it's now System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[06:24] <AngieBTSea> And I was wondering if someone had any ideas why?
[06:24] <NemesisD> ah just found it
[06:24] <fde> NemesisD: It is always 'jockey-gtk' though  ;)
[06:24] <DATmafia> ubuntu is the perfect newbie distro
[06:25] <Fezzler> Deepthought: System>Admin>Hardware Settings says Nvida is in use
[06:25] <DATmafia> some learning curves but a gui install on 8.04 is nice and clean with a lot of management features enabled :-)
[06:25] <fde> DATmafia: Ubuntu is the perfect distro... its underpinnings are Debian... they just made the defaults more refined, and added tools to make it easier for new users.
[06:25] <Mathman> sessh1234: not off  the top of my head.  but if I recall there's certainly something like that.  apt-slog --euthanize--orphans or something.  ha, nah, but orphans sounds about right anyway
[06:25] <kindofabuzz> sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean  is a good cleaner, but you have to have deporphan installed
[06:25] <Deepthought> Fezzler: like I said, it's ok; settings in system or settings menu
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> deborphan#
[06:26] <fde> kindofabuzz: aptitude replaced deborphan in every way deborphan was useful  :)
[06:26] <Fezzler> Deepthought: You lost me
[06:26] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if it' s not there, install with synaptic
[06:26] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: I'd go with some forums and mailing lists at this point.  get some sleep and all...
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> fde oh ok
[06:27] <Fezzler> Deepthought: If what is not there?
[06:27] <Fezzler> Deep
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/clean-up-unnecessary-packages-on-ubuntu-dapper/
[06:27] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if nvidia-settings is not in menu
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> I might not be able to let it go Mathman
[06:27] <Mathman> DATmafia: seriously.  ubuntu has a gui install these days?
[06:27] <AngryElf> so there's no solution to this slowish command line?
[06:27] <fde> kindofabuzz: If fact, exactly what that long command accomplishes is handled by default in aptitude... just aptitude upgrade , if something isn't in use, it'll remove it for you  :)
[06:27] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: ha, fair enough
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> I will continue consulting google
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> :)
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> thanks for trying
[06:28] <Fezzler> Deepthought: I have Nvida, I have Visual Effects Extra, I have Advanced Desktop Settings.  Just that Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube don't work after upgrade
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> fde: so basically use aptitude instead of apt-get?
[06:28] <N1N31NCHN41L6> aptitude is easier
[06:28] <patifa> aptitude clean?
[06:28] <Mathman> kindofabuzz: use synaptic I say
[06:28] <z0rz> How can I list all disk from the live cd?
[06:28] <fde> kindofabuzz: yes, with one coveat... to search descriptions (default apt-cache search) you must use ~dfoo ~dbar ...
[06:28] <NemesisD> fde, do you know if hardy wold make abackup of xorg.conf before changing it? i used to have dual monitors set up to span and now theyre mirroring eachother
[06:28] <Mathman> isn't that the gui junk?
[06:29] <crdlb> Fezzler: what doesn't work about them?
[06:29] <z0rz> come on..
[06:29] <z0rz> lsdisk?
[06:29] <Deepthought> Fezzler: I meant nvidia-settings, to set resolution and stuff; cause you mentioned earlier that didn' t work with the display settings, wich is normal with restr. dr.
[06:29] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Fezzler:  - get the NEW Envy For Hardy or the leacy for Gutsy - should fix ur cube
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> so sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean is moot now?
[06:29] <fde> NemesisD: It should... hit /etc/X11/xorg.conf[tab key]
[06:29] <Mathman> z0rz: what?  like rescue mode?  dmesg would do the trick
[06:29] <Don_Miguel> wb Flannel
[06:29] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: took me a bit to double-check, and after doing "sudo fdisk -l", it looks like two[2] of my USB  sticks are listed as  sdd/sdd1 & sde/sde1 but there is NO listing as for SDB at 160 GB !!
[06:29] <patifa> NemesisD: there may be older versions of them there, check it out
[06:29] <crdlb> N1N31NCHN41L6: that makes no sense whatsoever
[06:29] <NemesisD> yeesh now its forcing me to start in low graphics mode
[06:30] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote (celeron with AC97 sound) ?
[06:30] <kindofabuzz> why do people use envy when all they have to do is check a box to enable there graphic drivers?
[06:30] <Mathman> NemesisD: back it up by hand, by all means.  go with nvidia-settings or whatever.  least that's the easy way to do it.  shame I didn't learn that command up until recently.  used to take me days to get my dual monitor junk set up
[06:30] <z0rz> Hmm I think my disk partition tables are corrupt... is there any way to recover them?
[06:30] <fde> kindofabuzz: actually, not really apt-get... but aptitude handles search/debfoster/deborphan/install/purge etc much easier.
[06:30] <Fezzler> crdlb: After I turn on Visual Effect Extra, theb go into Advanced Desktop and turn on Desktop cub and roate, close, it seems to knock Extra off
[06:30] <x1250> kindofabuzz: because sometimes it doesn't work that way
[06:30] <kindofabuzz> ahh
[06:30] <milly1234> I don't understand the use of envy, I heard it has something to do with nvidia or such, but I installed the nvidia drivers with synaptic, why would you need envy?
[06:31] <x1250> I dont use envy, but sometimes you have to go and edit xorg.conf manually
[06:31] <x1250> lots of people like that in #ubuntu-es
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> milly1234: linux = 100 ways to do the same thing
[06:31] <crdlb> Fezzler: does compiz work at all?
[06:31] <Deepthought> Fezzler: to get cube I don' t know, should work, but there are some settings in advanced desk. set. that conflict others; just try back to default no effects, the start with the cube, and other settings one by one; should go.   If you set a setting sometimes it sez it conflicts with others and asks if you want the other off; maybe you missed one of those and left something on that stops the cube
[06:31] <kindofabuzz> my compiz works
[06:31] <NemesisD> BOOYAH
[06:31] <NemesisD> ok i think ive found the magic bullet for hardy borking a display
[06:31] <milly1234> my cube has a fishtank in it :P
[06:32] <Mathman> kindofabuzz: I certainly wouldn't put it that way.  but sure, for the most popular type of applications there's more than one out there.
[06:32] <NemesisD> its worked on 2 computers today for me, just had to apt-get --reinstall the video driver
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> hehe
[06:32] <fde> Mathman: 24,000 packages, there is 100 ways to do everything  ;)
[06:32] <kindofabuzz> what is the ubuntu developers room called?
[06:32] <Mathman> kindofabuzz: or if you're a masochist I suppose you could edit a file using just bash and cat or something
[06:32] <Fezzler> crdlb: Yes
[06:32] <NemesisD> *spoke too soon*, my left display is now tweaking out with psychadelic colors
[06:32] <cesar_bo> hey, about the no sound on youtube, using epiphany I am gettings this warnings, on playing a clip: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[06:32] <fde> kindofabuzz: What do you need devels for? They are busy people don't ya know  ;)
[06:32] <blackpearl> !swapon
[06:33] <blackpearl> !swap
[06:33] <milly1234> yea, but if you can install nvidia drivers with synaptic or apt-get, why use apt-get or synaptic to install envy then use envy to install nvidia drivers?
[06:33] <fde> blackpearl: /msg the bot please
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> fde: wanna ask if something is a bug or intended
[06:33] <crdlb> Fezzler: uh so if you enable rotate cube, what happens if you press ctrl+alt+right?
[06:33] <fde> kindofabuzz: File it as a bug, and if it's not, they'll mark it NOTABUG
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> fde: and want instant notification lol
[06:33] <Mathman> eh.  the unix philosophy is one good tool for one very specific job.  something like that, I mean, I know I didn't do that justice..  but anyway, I think linux, and unix in general, has that down pretty well.
[06:33] <musikgoat> crdlb: should go to the right desktop
[06:33] <pen> anyone here using tilda?
[06:33] <kindofabuzz> fde: on launchpad?
[06:34] <pen> why is it slow again? after all the updates?
[06:34] <musikgoat> pen yes
[06:34] <karllen2> hey i have a linux box setup to share my movies folder to the rest of the house....everything does work..the problem is its all wifi and it seems really choppy when i watch the movies over the network is there a better way to share these folders other than using smb or ethernet cables
[06:34] <crdlb> musikgoat: I know that :)
[06:34] <Fezzler> crdlb: My desktop slides to next one
[06:34] <punisher> sorry, go out
[06:34] <fde> kindofabuzz: Yes... or just Help > Report Problem... in the application if it's supported
[06:34] <blackpearl> fde, sorry
[06:34] <punisher> now I here
[06:34] <Mathman> sure some of those tools might be interchangable with multiple other tools.  but not for the most part.  you've got one X.  one ls.  one etc etc etc.
[06:34] <Fezzler> crdlb: I have four
[06:34] <pen> musikgoat: you have any solution
[06:34] <musikgoat> crdlb: why did you ask :-P
[06:34] <kindofabuzz> fde: oh ok
[06:34] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: yeah, don't use wifi
[06:34] <musikgoat> pen, solution for what, it works for me
[06:34] <crdlb> musikgoat: I wanted to know what happens on _his_ system :)
[06:34] <fde> blackpearl: It's fine, this is rather a high volume channel though is all  :)
[06:34] <albech> is acrobat reader available for download within the package manager?
[06:34] <karllen2> Diasuke: i was afraid of that
[06:34] <karllen2> lol
[06:34] <musikgoat> crdlb: lol sorry
[06:34] <Mathman> ha, actually there are two X servers out these days now that I think about it.  two free ones.  ha, ok, I give up
[06:35] <pen> musikgoat: it sometimes blank and I can't use transparency
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: sorry, but that's about all you can do - wifi is barely enough to handle standard definition video in most cases
[06:35] <crdlb> Fezzler: make sure that both Desktop Plane and Desktop Wall are disabled
[06:35] <musikgoat> pen: I had that issue for a while as well, I fixed the way I started it... one sec
[06:35] <pen> musikgoat: j
[06:35] <pen> k
[06:35] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: this is why i ran 50ft of cable from my media box to the router...  i tried wifi and nada
[06:35] <Deepthought> fezzler, that's the settings conflicting I was typing about
[06:36] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: can i run a cable to my mac
[06:36] <kindofabuzz> maybe use N? would that help with video?
[06:36] <RyanPrior> The latest update to GVFS is great! Thanks!
[06:36] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: but still use wifi for internet
[06:36] <legend2440> cesar_bo: this might work it mentions installing libflashsupport. if you are using hardy it is already in synaptic so no need to download it. http://sendderek.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/how-to-fix-the-no-sound-issue-in-firefox-flash/
[06:36] <N> ??????????
[06:36] <patifa> albech: it's not open source.  You can get a PDF reader, though.
[06:36] <NemesisD> anyone know if the restricted nvidia driver is 'nvidia' or 'nv'?
[06:36] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: directly from one computer to another?  you can, but you'd need a crossover cable
[06:36] <RyanPrior> libflashsupport can (and probably will) cause Firefox to crash occasionally or frequently.
[06:36] <musikgoat> pen, do you know how to make a script?
[06:36] <cesar_bo> ﻿legend2440: thanks, i wourl look at it
[06:36] <Booh-> How to launch mplayer from console but send display to my second display?
[06:37] <musikgoat> pen are you registered on freenode, so I can PM you?
[06:37] <pen> musikgoat: is that the only solution?
[06:37] <astro76> NemesisD: nvidia
[06:37] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: id also hafta activate to devices as well
[06:37] <pen> musikgoat: i think so
[06:37] <knoppix> I have a really basic question. gparted lists sda1 and sda2 with sda5 as swap. what happened to sda3 and sda4?
[06:37] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido my wifi and the ethernet card
[06:37] <albech> patifa: i tried downloading the reader from adobe, but i get an error message.. maybe i need extra software to support rpm?
[06:37] <Booh-> In fact I would like to launch mplayer in full screen mode on my other display... (display is working now in xorg)
[06:37] <RyanPrior> knoppix: An angry penguin ate them.
[06:37] <deno> dose kmplayer work on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[06:37] <N1N31NCHN41L6> my ubuntu WONT start in normal get like a inch of desktop and then all black - have to use gnome failsafe - any ideas
[06:37] <fde> deno: yes
[06:37] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: how can u tell if its a crossover cable
[06:37] <knoppix> lol I hope not
[06:37] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: you're already using a wireless router right?
[06:37] <deno> thank you
[06:37] <fde> knoppix: /nick  ;)
[06:37] <patifa> oh
[06:38] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: yes
[06:38] <milly1234> ibflashsupport causes massive instability in flash in firefox 3 for many causing it to crash alot for whoever that was who was told to install it
[06:38] <patifa> wait nm albech, start the package manager and find 'acroread'
[06:38] <astro76> knoppix: look up primary vs extended partition
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> karllen2: just run the linux box to the router with ethernet
[06:38] <albech> patifa: 2 sec trying
[06:38] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: will that improve speeds?
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> wait...  nevermind, you're watching on the mac
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> it might
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's certainly worth a shot
[06:39] <knoppix> ok, i'll do that astro
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but just check pc stores and even big box stores - it'll say crossover patch cable (usually)
[06:39] <karllen2> ﻿Daisuke_Ido: mmmm ill try that its so far away tho and i know nothing about cableing
[06:39] <andronicus> hello
[06:39] <legend2440> cesar_bo: did you see what milly1234 wrote about libflashsupport causing instability in firefox 3?
[06:39] <Daisuke_Ido> you can tell because looking at one of the ends, it looks like a couple of the wires are crossed
[06:39] <cesar_bo> ﻿legend2440: thanks, I solve my problem:D
[06:39] <musikgoat> pen: are you getting my messages?
[06:39] <andronicus> is anyone here running dual monitors?
[06:39] <pen> musikgoat: yes
[06:39] <legend2440> cesar_bo: ok good
[06:39] <albech> patifa: acroread not found
[06:40] <musikgoat> pen: if you are responding, then you are not registered on freenode
[06:40] <Mathman> andronicus: yep
[06:40] <musikgoat> !register > pen
[06:40] <pen> musikgoat: what?
[06:40] <blackpearl> how to delete a user?
[06:40] <pen> ok
[06:40] <pen> !register
[06:40] <x1250> $ deluser user
[06:40] <x1250> with sudo
[06:40] <z0rz> hmm looks like I will be reinstalling linux.... my hard drives partition table is gone after a apt-get upgrade :(
[06:41] <grayKot> How to run application in specific desktop, not current?
[06:41] <legend2440> cesar_bo: did you install libflashsupport?
[06:41] <Don_Miguel> Hi again, it has been another 1/2 hour or so, and I am repeating, with an update:
[06:41] <Don_Miguel> Repeat #2: Problem: IDE (working) partitions not visible after Gutsy net-upgrade to Hardy on SATA  Note: those IDEs still show in BIOS, but NOT in partition manager ! see update after "sudo fdisk -l"  Paste: http://pastebin.com/m4175c259
[06:41] <Deepthought> andronicus: ya betya
[06:41] <cesar_bo> ﻿legend2440: yes that solve my problem
[06:41] <damo22> z0rz: you can recover it with testdisk
[06:41] <RyanPrior> z0rz: That is really nasty.
[06:41] <astro76> knoppix: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_admin/x1139.html
[06:41] <cappicard> hrmm... every video I play on youtube, google, yahoo, others freezes after two seconds
[06:42] <z0rz> testdisk?
[06:42] <Deepthought> andronicus: I am
[06:42] <legend2440> cesar_bo: ok
[06:42] <RyanPrior> z0rz: man testdisk for more info
[06:42] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: first I heard of partitions showing up in the bios
[06:42] <Deepthought> andronicus: on nvidia; tried three, have not succeeded yet
[06:42] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: the IDE drives
[06:42] <andronicus> have you been able to get windows to open up on your second monitor by default?
[06:43] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: so not the partitions?  you said partitions...
[06:43] <wolferine> !samba
[06:43] <Don_Miguel> Flannel suggested that they SHOULD be mapped as SATA
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> Don_Miguel: all drives are considered scsi now
[06:43] <damo22> z0rz: if you havent rebooted, the current partition table should be still valid
[06:43] <damo22> z0rz: sudo fdisk -l
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> and will all show up as sd*
[06:43] <z0rz> damo22: I figured out the tables were corrupted by rebooitng :(
[06:43] <DanaG> Argh, this page crashes Firefox repeatedly:  http://ubnt.com/products/
[06:43] <karllen2> what is the best chat client for linux (aim and irc)
[06:43] <DanaG> And if you use nspluginwrapper, it just gives a big grey box.
[06:44] <DanaG> Don't you love sites that do that?
[06:44] <N1N31NCHN41L6> ok i updated grub and when it loads it STILL doensnt see my puppy?????
[06:44] <fde> Daisuke_Ido: Not exactly, all hard drives use libata, which defines its devices as /dev/sd??
[06:44] <damo22> z0rz: boot off livecd and run testdisk on your hard drive
[06:44] <musikgoat> DanaG: doesn't seem to be for me
[06:44] <Don_Miguel> Only my USB pendrives are showing up, not the IDE
[06:44] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: guess I blew it on what you were saying actually.  apologies
[06:44] <velizarov|laptop> hello.
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> fde: which means that, to the system, they're seen as scsi
[06:44] <musikgoat> DanaG: but i don't use nspluginwrapper
[06:44] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: none of us are NEAR perfect !
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> emulated scsi*
[06:44] <z0rz> damo22: I'm trying that now
[06:44] <Deepthought> Don_Miguel: many stat drives get mapped as scsi; it' s some sort of hardware abstraction layer, they get accessed through a scsi protocol; like some cd' s
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> but yeah, i see your point
[06:45] <fde> Daisuke_Ido: No... serial device
[06:45] <Deepthought> I meant sata
[06:45] <Deepthought> Don_Miguel: lik daisuk said, emulated, better word
[06:45] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: nah man, fdisk without any arguments but switches is going to just list whatever the first drive is I spose.  if you're lucky it's even that nice.  try fdicsk -l /dev/foo to see your other junk
[06:45] <fde> (libata was orginally intended for SATA)
[06:45] <andronicus> Deepthought: have you been able to get gnome to be able to remember the window position so that say firefox opens on a monitor other than the primary monitor?
[06:45] <nuSharper> hi there! which font is really used when i pick "sans-serif" from a font drop-down list? what's the name of that font? i know it isnt DejaVu.
[06:46] <mojo> fde:: I *THINK* that I fixed it...  Notice that my /boot partition was not mounted, becuase disk-by-uuid was failing on it.  Fixed my fstab to use /dev/hda1 instead.  See my pastebin and tell me if you think I need to do anything more to be *sure*.  Thanks!
[06:46] <mojo> fde::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8840/
[06:46] <damo22> foo bar bat
[06:46] <velizarov|laptop> why kernel-image in ubuntu with xen, make without acpi?
[06:46] <z0rz> damo22: Testdisk isn't showing my hard drive in the list
[06:46] <warriorforgod> clear
[06:46] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: see update after "sudo fdisk -l"  Paste: http://pastebin.com/m4175c259
[06:46] <fde> mojo: That would explain it... I was going to ask you to check that the file exists, but thought as it's a server, you'd know that already  :o
[06:46] <DanaG> Lovely.
[06:47] <fde> mojo: Apologies, could have had it fixed an hour or more ago...
[06:47] <DanaG> When I tried to open it in konqueror, it froze X completely -- except for the cursor.
[06:47] <grayKot> ﻿How to run application from console in specific desktop, not current?
[06:47] <Deepthought> andronicus: that sort of stuff is still buggy; there is a lot of difference in behaviour though using xinerama or not using xiner.  ... Do you use nvidia ?   or what else if not ?   How' s yer double screen set up ?
[06:47] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: can you be a bit more specific  ?
[06:47] <Flannel> nuSharper: Bitstream Vera Sans, probably.
[06:47] <mojo> fde::  well it *did* put files in /boot (the mountpoint), but there was no /boot/grub hierarchy.
[06:47] <andronicus> Deepthought: I am using nvidia twinview, no xinerama
[06:48] <mojo> fde::  i'm not stressing it.  Better than reinstall and having the derned internet out all night (we are night owls)
[06:48] <AngryElf> when I try to activate my LVM with vgchange it tells me that ther'es no entry for device-mapper in /proc/misc -- that the device-mapper driver is missing, how do I install that?
[06:48] <kindofabuzz> derned?
[06:48] <mojo> fde::  this is my home server machine and router/gateway.
[06:48] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: guess I'm completely wrong here.  fdisk -l, just plain, seems to list all the drives.  what's the problem?  sda seems to have a bunch of junk.  what are you expecting to see
[06:48] <nuSharper> Flannel: i guessed that initially, but then, looking carefully, it doesnt look like Bitstream... i am more inclined to believe it is Liberation
[06:48] <Jordan_U> mojo, I'm back, so how did you get in the situation you are in?
[06:48] <andronicus> Deepthought: could this be a limitation of metacity and should i be looking to use another windows manager?
[06:48] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. I remember Gutsy Gibbon having an awesome application for handing .bin files (it practically mounted it, but it was great). Now after I upgraded to Hardy I don't have it anymore and so I'm woundering what would that kind of thing be called?
[06:48] <fde> mojo: Same here... heh... and at least it is fixed, and you learned something yourself: apt it really good about telliing you exactly where to look, if you know what it's telling you  :)
[06:49] <Deepthought> andronicus: Ok, try nvidia-settings, change to separate x-screens, xinerama on; the see how it goes, if not satisf. switch back to twinview, that leave xinerama on in twinview (wich is weird, but hey, it works), and see then
[06:49] <Deepthought> andronicus: using compiz might help
[06:49] <N1N31NCHN41L6> ok i updated grub and when it loads it STILL doensnt see my puppy????? it JUST sees ubuntu - how do i get ubuntu to share grub
[06:49] <Jordan_U> mojo, And, it seems, how did you get out of it :)
[06:49] <arooni__> how can i get the mac address for my wireless card?  ubuntu gutsy..
[06:49] <fde> mojo: Either the file didn't exist, or the post-inst was defining it incorrectly... I overlooked the first, and didn't want to help with the second, cuz it can do damage  :o
[06:49] <mojo> Jordan_U::  methinks i fixed it... look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8840/ and notice that /boot is a separate partition, and it failed to mount by uuid.  Mod fstab to use /dev/hda1 and it *seems* to have fixed it.  How can I be certain?
[06:50] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: I am looking HARD for a disk(IDE) with 160GB on it, or at least the two partitions with like 33.7 GB
[06:50] <Deepthought> andronicus: I' ve also found that in some situations starting a prog from a starter on different screen makes a difference (ie put a firefox-icon on screen 2 and start it, might end up on screen 2 like you want it)
[06:50] <zcat[1]> N1N31NCHN41L6: check the /boot/grub/menu.lst in puppy and see how i was set up.. copy the entry over to ubuntu's grub
[06:50] <zcat[1]> assuming puppy uses grub
[06:50] <andronicus> Deepthought: thanks for advise, restart is req'd
[06:50] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: oneof those has over 20 GB of files I want very much to be able to access !
[06:50] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: so your'e saying you have more than 3 disks attached?
[06:50] <RyanPrior> We don't support Puppy here.
[06:51] <DanaG> Yay, when flash isn't crashing, it's instead giving no audio.
[06:51] <DanaG> Thanks a pantsload, Adobe.
[06:51] <mojo> fde::  Jordan_U::  thanks for all the help.   fde, you have a right to be lazy, it's not really your problem.  thanks for the input.
[06:51] <fde> mojo: take a look around in /var/lib/dpkg/ (especially parts) for where I would have taken you...
[06:51] <N1N31NCHN41L6> there is no menu.lst in puppy why i did a sudo grub-install /dev/sda5
[06:51] <DanaG> At least with nspluginwrapper, it no longer takes the whole browser with it.
[06:51] <zcat[1]> RyanPrior: I'll support dual-booting with Vista as long as Ubuntu is somehow involved..
[06:51] <Deepthought> andronicus: Still I find myself dragging progs from one screen to the other many a time; but well, it can't be more hassle than one screen, right ?   isn' t two screens tha dopey big thingy surplus !?)
[06:51] <Jordan_U> RyanPrior, But we'll help people dual boot :)
[06:51] <mojo> fde::  is that the .deb cache for apt?
[06:51] <RedScare> why in gods name does Hardy and did Gutsy run so hot and run my battery down so much
[06:51] <fde> mojo: uhh... info rather... but yes
[06:52] <Deepthought> andronicus: you don' t need reboot, just pressing ctrl-alt-backspace will do the job, will reset x-server
[06:52] <RyanPrior> zcat[1]: That's true. I'm having to get acquainted with Windows now, because I need to be able to help people with Wubi.
[06:52] <DGS> hello :)
[06:52] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: I dunno.  pull the usb junk.  reboot.  or heck, pull everything but the system disk and the disk you're after.  make sure the stuff is plugged in even.  boot the junk up.  run "dmesg".  see what it tells you about your disks.
[06:52] <Don_Miguel> Mathman: (1) IDE 160 GB and (1) SATA of 250 GB, two USBs are showing up at ~4GB and ~8GB
[06:52] <mojo> Jordan_U::  originally got in this mess by doing upgrade via ssh and having it waiting on me to answer about a config file version confilct.  i had fallen asleep and i guess ssh timed out.
[06:52] <warriorforgod> Don_Miguel: Is your nick a reference to Castaneda?
[06:52] <NeoGeo64> Ubuntu really likes my quad core intel 6600 and its 4 gigs of ram
[06:53] <NeoGeo64> its using every bit of it
[06:53] <fde> mojo: You can look at those files via cat safely, especially post and pre things, but don't change anything unless you're sure...
[06:53] <mojo> fde::  i am always glad for positive learning experiences
[06:53] <zcat[1]> I'm doing a vista/ubuntu dual boot on Friday.. my second time ever messing with vista.. I really HATE vista :(
[06:53] <RedScare> i bet it does, that amd64 bujild NEOGEO?
[06:53] <Don_Miguel> Mathman, thanks .. worth a shot .. did not have any clue this was gonna happen !!
[06:53] <mojo> fde::  okay, sounds interesting enough to peruse
[06:53] <NeoGeo64> flash really takes alot of cpu time for some reason (poorly written) but with all this speed it doesnt make a difference
[06:53] <RedScare> I really like vista
[06:53] <zcat[1]> hope I don't screw it up
[06:53] <zcat[1]> RedScare: well, it's not bad in one way.. a lot of ppl hate vista so much thel'y even consider Linux in preference to it :)
[06:54] <RedScare> thats funny
[06:54] <fde> mojo: Might give you a good idea of how much work devs put in also  :)
[06:54] <_kevin_> has anyone been having trouble burning cds in hardy?
[06:54] <Mathman> zcat[1]: all I know, don't install xp second.  ha, and don't take the thing home where you don't have a static ip if you're installing corporate edition
[06:54] <RedScare> and those people will find... exactly what they found with vista.... compatibility problems!
[06:54] <RyanPrior> RedScare: I find that people who didn't like Windows before Vista often do now, but people who liked Windows the way it was now don't like Vista.
[06:54] <mojo> Jordan_U::  seemed like a good idea to put a headless box in the closet, replace the crappy d-link router (this box has a 4-port GigE HP switch-on-a-card), and eventually use it as a home server and centralized torrent dl, etc.
[06:54] <Don_Miguel> Flannel & Mathman, Thanks for your help .. I'll try a re-boot w/o the USBs  and see what happens ...
[06:54] <_kevin_> i had trouble burning them in gutsy but I heard the newer kernel may fix the problem
[06:55] <RedScare> evolution is a beautiful thing
[06:55] <mojo> Jordan_U::  it sucks when boxen go astray and they have no video card or kbd attached.
[06:55] <x1250> I am the kind of people that didn't like windows before, and now doesn't like it either.
[06:55] <legend2440> !ati
[06:55] <Mathman> Don_Miguel: not trying to be a jerk here man, but it sounds like you really oughta double check that the thing is plugged in
[06:55] <Booh-> When I start a graphical app from console, how to send display to another display?
[06:55] <fde> _kevin_: does 'wodim --data /path/to/file' work? (assuming it's an ISO... else --audio etc man wodim)
[06:55] <pen> is there a way to reset session options?
[06:55] <Deepthought> RyanPrior: so true...
[06:55] <AngryElf> does anyone know how to load up device mapper?
[06:55] <Don_Miguel> will need to wait a few minutes for bit-torrent to finish ...
[06:55] <mojo> fde::  actually i have a fair guess at the amt of work, but am sure i am waay off :P
[06:55] <RedScare> there's really nothing wrong with windows, or ubuntu, its just choice and preference
[06:56] <pen> now the sessions doesn't look for the checkbox in startup programs tab
[06:56] <DrifterSX> psp video support now worx with hardy yay!!!
[06:56] <Mathman> eh, me, I like windows just fine.  if that's all I had.  I'd live.  I just like linux better, despite the steep learning curve
[06:56] <RedScare> what I do prefer it software the works with a with virtually infinite hardware
[06:56] <zcat[1]> RedScare: yes and no.. Friday's client is already running OOo and Firefox and a few other OSS programs, there's very little she's using in Windows that isn't exactly the same in Linux. The biggest issue will be replacing Autocad with qcad.. which is why she wants dual-boot so she can still get to autocad if she needs it
[06:56] <pen> it starts programs saved in the "Remember Currently Running Applications"
[06:56] <RyanPrior> RedScare: you're implying that Windows and Vista are both perfect, it's just a matter of choice? Like who's better, Beethoven or Bach?
[06:56] <RedScare> and Microsoft did a great job there
[06:56] <kaf> 欧普洱茶你
[06:56] <pen> how to reset that so it will look for the startup programs?
[06:56] <RedScare> I'm implying none are perfect
[06:56] <RyanPrior> RedScare: I meant Vista and Ubuntu, not Windows and Vista. +D
[06:57] <RedScare> they all have pro's and con's
[06:57] <RyanPrior> RedScare: when you say "nothing wrong", that doesn't sound like imperfection to me.
[06:57] <_kevin_> i haven't tried in hardy yet. I was just wondering. I used to use k3b because of its varify option but will try brasero next time
[06:57] <kaf> open suse is more beautiful.
[06:57] <RedScare> I was generalizing, just like there's nothing wrong with liking sushi
[06:57] <RyanPrior> RedScare: There is something very wrong with Windows - it's non-Free software through and through. It keeps users, as rms says, divided and helpless.
[06:57] <raybr> hi guys, I just updated to ubuntu 8.04 a few days ago, and and i was able to access my C:\(from windows) via ubuntu, but not sure why, since yesterday i'm unable to access it anymore
[06:57] <Mathman> Booh-: definitely possible.  google probably has an answer too.  apparently me and you are about the only people that care.  one of us is going to need to hit google.  you can either wait for me to maybe get curious enough, or you could try and hit google yourself.
[06:57] <Mathman> Booh-: or keep asking here I spose...
[06:58] <zcat[1]> open suse is a dog. Ubuntu has spoiled me, I find just about every other Linux distro hard now
[06:58] <mojo> Mathman::  thing is once you start to get a handle on it, you find that Linux makes much more sense to you than windows does.  Windows is all mysterious under the hood, and as you learn how things should/could be done you just hafta shake your head at some of the decisions MS has made with windows architecture
[06:58] <RedScare> And it powers corporate America as to provide the infrastructure to allow people like me to stay at home and program free to use ware
[06:58] <DrifterSX> sup zcat
[06:58] <fde> raybr: sudo mount -a bring it back by chance?
[06:58] <pen> anyone here familiar with session preference?
[06:58] <AgentHeX> is there a reason ubuntu-xen-desktop depends on xenman and xenman is not in synaptic?
[06:58] <Deepthought> RedScare: I agree, windoze was the first thing to make able to use a pc to it's full potential whan I was new to it (win 3 it was); coming from atari st pc seamed pretty meager; Billy made the thing WORK !; but now ubunt takes the tor ch and gets me where I always wanted to be with my super-duper ultra-rig
[06:58] <x1250> RyanPrior: thats right.
[06:58] <raybr> will try it fde
[06:58] <fde> pen: ask your actual question please.
[06:58] <Mathman> Booh-: or...heck, if you mean something along the lines of export DISPLAY=machine:1.0.  then yeah, that's how you do it.  I guess I'm not really sure what you're after at this point
[06:59] <pen> fde: I already asked it. The question is how to reset the session?
[06:59] <Mathman> Booh-: if it's what I'm beginning to suspect though, then the short answer is to use ssh's X11 forwarding.
[06:59] <raybr> am not on ubuntu right now because of the file system accesss issue
[06:59] <RedScare> yes, I am quite fond of Ubuntu, but it's not for everybody, just like Windows is not for everyone
[06:59] <pen> fde: for example, I have tilda opened and I clicked "Remember Currently Running Applications" button
[06:59] <N1N31NCHN41L6> mojo:  think ur idea would work for me ........(02:48:29 PM) mojo: Jordan_U::  methinks i fixed it... look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8840/ and notice that /boot is a separate partition, and it failed to mount by uuid.  Mod fstab to use /dev/hda1 and it *seems* to have fixed it.  How can I be certain?
[06:59] <mojo> fde, Jordan_U - FOR THE RECORD:  Though I think disk-by-uuid *can* be handy for removeable media, i HATE reading it all over my /fstab/ by default.
[06:59] <Mathman> mojo: well yeah, windows is a black box.  as I said, I much prefer linux
[06:59] <pen> fde: now even after I unchcek tilda in startup programs it still start up tilda
[07:00] <Booh-> Mathman: no no.  I have 2 independant screens and I want to start mplayer from my main screen to display to the second one.
[07:00] <fde> pen: System > Preferences > Session is all you'll need for that.
[07:00] <mojo> Mathman::  agreed
[07:00] <Booh-> Mathman: both screens are working at this time.
[07:00] <Mathman> Booh-: so yeah, I guess I was right the first time.  refer to my googling it comment
[07:00] <Deepthought> mojo: exactly; My mother is very intelligent and technical; she doesn't understand the whole 'separate PC from user' aproach from win, gets confued all the time while it's all so easy; but a s you said under the hood and hidden
[07:00] <pen> fde: please, read my question
[07:00] <tonyr1988> I've got my computer as a web server (sort of) via DynDNS. It works perfectly for computers that I try it on - even from other networks, but not from my cell phone's browser. Any ideas?
[07:00] <RedScare> If i could debug why the ACPI support in ubuntu is horrible on my notebook it would be my primary OS actually
[07:00] <Booh-> Mathman: but... I am in google since one hour!
[07:00] <corinth> Anyone know of a KDE 4 unstable repo for Kubuntu?
[07:01] <RyanPrior> RedScare: yeah, ACPI tends to be a total mess.
[07:01] <mojo> Deepthought::  a hidden *mess*, im-not-so-ho
[07:01] <Kickboy> I keep getting a seg fault when I launch network-admin. This is a recent occurrence (on Hardy). I've tried reinstalling the packages with no success. Kinda stuck at this point. Anybody else experience this?
[07:01] <erik____> I have tried to install the latest version of Ubuntu 8.04 on my new computer, the motherboard is a Asus p5s mx se, which has the sis 191 network adapter. But i cant get the network to work. I dont have the ISA bridge problem reported by other people before
[07:01] <fde> pen: Scrolling up I don't see it... what I told you will allow you to remove tilde from the default session.
[07:01] <Mathman> Booh-: ha, now you got me in know it all mode.  spose I'll find it in a few seconds...
[07:01] <RedScare> I give it a year, maybe two and mass usage will really kick in
[07:01] <lnxnwbe> what is the comand i type into terminal to edit grub?
[07:01] <mojo> Verbosity rules.
[07:01] <AgentHeX> does Xen work for anyone in Hardy?
[07:01] <magnetron> 2008, the year of Desktop Linux
[07:01] <pen> fde: do you mean the startup program tab?
[07:01] <pen> fde: that doesn't work
[07:01] <tonyr1988> lnxnwbe: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:01] <mojo> I would have never figured my problem out if linux were not verbose where it counted
[07:01] <RedScare> but the socialist undertones of this type of software makes me want to change my major out of programming
[07:02] <tonyr1988> lnxnwbe: Make sure you back up first.
[07:02] <RyanPrior> AgentHeX: Xen works well with Ubuntu.
[07:02] <pen> fde: because i have clicked the button in the session option tab
[07:02] <pen> fde: i want to reset that
[07:02] <lnxnwbe> tonyr1988: ty
[07:02] <tonyr1988> lnxnwbe: There's also a GUI, called QGRUBEditor, if you want a graphical way of doing it.
[07:02] <RyanPrior> AgentHeX: I don't personally use it, but it's definitely supported by Canonical on the commercial level.
[07:02] <AgentHeX> RyanPrior: have you any experience with it in Hardy?
[07:02] <RedScare> but I do love compiz
[07:02] <RedScare> and virtualbox
[07:02] <fde> pen: remove tilde from that list... and remove it from the Current Session list.
[07:02] <AgentHeX> RyanPrior: i'm trying to install ubuntu-xen-desktop, but it depends on xenman, and that doesn't appear in synaptic.
[07:02] <Booh-> Mathman, It's ok!  export display have done the job!
[07:02] <magnetron> RedScare: this is a support channel.
[07:02] <Booh-> good :)
[07:03] <pen> fde: I did, it stiill comes back
 no i just want to edit boot order
[07:03] <RyanPrior> AgentHeX: hmm, don't know about that. I'm a kvm user myself.
[07:03] <pen> fde: I have no idea why
[07:03] <Deepthought> mojo: yep, a grown convention stacked upon a grown conv ad infinitum making for a bunch of workarounds that need a sneak arounbd the corner aproach to make it work; instead of telling the rig what to do you have to think of what to say to make it belief the thing  you want it to do (are you still theree.. ?)
[07:03] <magnetron> !offtopic
[07:03] <RedScare> well, no one knows anything about gnome-power manager so I often come visit and ask a couple of questions pertaining to why my vista battery life it 3x longer than my ubuntu's
[07:03] <mojo> Someone quoted earlier here that the Unix way is to have small programs do one thing, and one thing well, so they can be used together to do greater things.  I'll also mention that failing loudly and verbosely is another great trait
[07:03] <musikgoat> pen the issue is a bug with tilda that the developer wont fix
[07:03] <Mathman> Booh-: ok.  I was figuring you wanted something like window position options for when you start your app.  which is definitely doable.  but anyway, long as you're happy
[07:03] <fde> pen: ps -e | grep tilde <-- pkill -9 that, then save current session again
[07:03] <alienseer23> got me a stubborn directory that is owned by "root:plugdev" that I cannot change the permissions of ownership on, and I need to, it won
[07:03] <Deepthought> magnetron: you'r e right, we' re drifying here... sorry... !
[07:03] <pen> musikgoat: why not?
[07:03] <Deepthought> drifting
[07:04] <musikgoat> pen in the grey box, type exit
[07:04] <pen> fde: save? you mean in session option?
[07:04] <magnetron> Deepthought: feel free to drift in #ubuntu-offtopic , feel free to join
[07:04] <mojo> Deepthought::  one word would be enough:  registry
[07:04] <fde> pen: Wherever you saved it before... I'm looking at the interface, and it's changed... so I'm not exactly sure.
[07:04] <pen> musikgoat: I'm not using tilda now
[07:04] <pen> fde: oh
[07:04] <verges> mhh... i installed flashplayer 7 a few decades ago
[07:04] <pen> fde: I see
[07:04] <verges> and installed flash player 9 right now
[07:04] <alienseer23> what would make changing the permissions or ownership of a folder and its contents non-permitted even when using sudo?
[07:05] <fde> pen: It used to have a "Save" button right in there... but I guess they decided to take that option out...
[07:05] <verges> but when i start firefox it's still loading flash 7
[07:05] <verges> how can i change this?
[07:05] <Mathman> alienseer23: chattr I spose?
[07:05] <pen> fde: why? that makes this difficult to manage
[07:05] <crazyer> sudo chown -R yourdir
[07:05] <Ainu> hey guys im new here, i was just wondering what the #ubuntu-read-topic chan is about, does THIS chan auto-test everyone for the dcc vuln? thats what i really wanted to find out
[07:05] <inukshux> Arrgh, how can I put AWN on the top of my desktop?
[07:05] <pen> fde: I have no idea of what session is saved
[07:05] <chris_420> does anybody no the applet which is apparent on the menubar for networking? shows network interfaces and available wireless networks?
[07:05] <RedScare> does any know a workaround for the automounting of USB flash drive problems in hardy
[07:05] <alienseer23> mathman: dunno what that is, how would I fix that?
[07:05] <Ainu> does being in here mean im not affected buy it
[07:05] <mojo> Deepthought::  little things also bug me to no end, like desktop.ini and thumbs.db turds all in my directories.  Still dealing with those as two roomies have WinXP boxen accessing the r/w shares
[07:05] <Ainu> by*
[07:05] <Beavter> Im not exactly sure as to where to ask this question but I just wondered if anyone here has had the chance of toying with Ventrilo through Wine and actually got it to work
[07:05] <Booh-> Mathman, In fact, it's a test... I want to run 4 different mplayer on 4 differents screens... in full screen for a project of animation in a show room...
[07:05] <inukshux> I'd like to put my main panel on the bottom, while AWN on the top. How?
[07:05] <fde> pen: I have no idea... I'm sort of disappointed myself.... I usually just add and remove things from the session manually...
[07:06] <clarity> hey, this install doesn't have gmake and apt-cache search gmake doesn't come up with anything... what package do i need to install for devel?
[07:06] <Carbonflux> has anyone had any problems with window placement in 8.04 with compiz-fusion and Twinview ?
[07:06] <pen> fde: why did they changed that? is there a reason?
[07:06] <fde> pen: I never have clicked 'Save Current Session' but it at least used to be there
[07:06] <stdin> Ainu: you only get send there when you have been exploited when someone attacks this channel
[07:06] <zcat[1]> mojo: find . -name thumbs.db -exec rm {} \;
[07:06] <zedster_> I installed some software to use my wiimote on ubuntu 8.04 today, and my touchpad stopped working, I reset my xorg, no go, any ideas?
[07:06] <Booh-> Mathman, I was able to start 2... so I suppose now as long as I will be able to make 3 dual video card running in the computer... I will be able to do it :)
[07:06] <mojo> zcat[1]::  you rock
[07:06] <Ainu> oh ok
[07:06] <pen> alright
[07:06] <fde> pen: Not sure.
[07:06] <musikgoat> pen: did you still want help via PM? did you register?
[07:06] <NeoGeo64> wow
[07:06] <Ainu> i just wanted to find out for sure whether or not if im vulnerable to dcc
[07:06] <NeoGeo64> gnome is so cool
[07:06] <pen> musikgoat: I'm not sure, try
[07:06] <Beavter> I can log in hear others talk I am just having trouble sending a signal out
[07:06] <pen> musikgoat: I did the nickserv thing
[07:07] <NeoGeo64> I Just hit the Windows key + M and the entire screen goes inverted.
[07:07] <Mathman> alienseer23: well, you can do a "chattr +i" to a file or directory (I think on the directory part, never tried it to be honest), and then it's basically stuck like it is until you do a "chattr -i" on it.  but this is a wild guess mind you.  lsattr would tell you if the immutable bit is set at any rate
[07:07] <stdin> Ainu: as long as you connect on port 8001, then you're not
[07:07] <erik____> How do i get the SIS191 ethernet adapter to work in 8.04
[07:07] <mojo> NeoGeo64::  and getting cooler all the time
[07:07] <lnxnwbe> uh oh, I just upgraded to 8. ubuntu and its very slow
[07:07] <RedScare> while we are the subject of gnome
[07:07] <NeoGeo64> win + m = invert
[07:07] <NeoGeo64> cool
[07:07] <cappicard> hrmm.. swiftweasel is crashing way too often with anything with flash
[07:07]  * mojo hides pointy hat, looks around playing innocent
[07:07] <qasim> yesterday i upgraded from gutsy to hardy and now the "make" command is not executing, any idea why? it is giving me error that make[1]: dot: Command not found
[07:07] <clarity> ah, build-essential
[07:07] <clarity> thanks
[07:07] <Ainu> i need to do more reading, why are routers just affected by that one port
[07:07] <Deepthought> mojo: yep; let's take the conv to #ubuntu-offtopic, as in fact it really is... ; I' there now !
[07:08] <mojo> Deepthought::  sure if n' ya like
[07:08] <musikgoat> meh, pen i'm on aim under the same name if thats easier
[07:08] <chris_420> anybody know how to re add the task bar to a menu once removed?
[07:08] <Mathman> qasim: haha, sounds fun
[07:08] <pen> musikgoat: I don't have aim.
[07:08] <musikgoat> ok nvm
[07:08] <qasim> Mathman: yeah, I am really enjoying it :-p
[07:09] <zedster_> $ sudo rmmod psmouse, $ sudo modprobe psmouse, if I run these commands my touch pad works for a sec
[07:09] <sirmike1970md> hi i just installed kubuntu and i cant get it to go 1024x768
[07:09] <chris_420> < running gutsy.... no problems with make what so ever
[07:09] <AgentHeX> !xen
[07:09] <pen> musikgoat: nevertheless, is chmod +x right?
[07:09] <musikgoat> pen yes
[07:09] <Mathman> qasim: and...this is why I always go with a fresh install.  no matter what the debian folks tell me
[07:09] <fde> chris_420: right click panel > Add to Panel > Menu Bar in that list
[07:09] <musikgoat> pen a+x
[07:09] <pen> musikgoat: I have been researching on the script thing, so I have basics idea for sh fiels
[07:09] <pen> musikgoat: a+x??
[07:09] <pen> musikgoat: what does that do?
[07:09] <musikgoat> pen +x should work
[07:09] <ushimitsudoki> (Hardy x86_64)FF 3 Beta 5 is bugged? The active tab randomly (?) loads the home page? Anyone seen this or perhaps it is something unique to my config?
[07:10] <pen> musikgoat: ok
[07:10] <musikgoat> pen a+x is all add execute
[07:10] <chris_420> fde the menus are there the taskbar how ever isn't... you know... where the "tray icons" go
[07:10] <stdin> Ainu: because they are trying to be helpful opening a port when they see a certain string in IRC, and since the default IRC port is 6667 they only do it when the connection is on that port
[07:10] <qasim> Mathman: i have never done fresh installation since my shift to ubuntu from edgy days. this is the first time that i encounter this sort of error
[07:10] <Mathman> qasim: nah, I mean, from what I understand that apt-get upgrade world or whatever the heck should work darn good.  not like a yum upgrade or whatever.  but yeah, old habits die hard and I don't trust upgrades
[07:10] <chris_420> not necesary just something that would be pretty nice to have haha
[07:10] <pen> musikgoat: ok
[07:10] <musikgoat> pen then for the Preferences -> Sessions  make a new start item pointing to that script
[07:10] <pen> musikgoat: k
[07:10] <RedScare> haven't seen it ushimit, but I have seen a plethora of other problems out of it
[07:11] <pen> musikgoat: going to test
[07:11] <musikgoat> pen, you can test that script by (making sure tilda is closed)
[07:11] <fde> chris_420: It should be there under "System Tray"
[07:11] <pen> musikgoat: ?
[07:11] <qasim> Mathman: good for you, i am badly stuck at this "make" utility :(
[07:11] <chris_420> aight will check again... thanks
[07:11] <musikgoat> pen and going to the dir and typing ./start_tilda.sh
[07:11] <pen> ok
[07:11] <ushimitsudoki> RedScare: this is making it darn near unusable! Didn't happen before I upgraded.
[07:12] <fde> chris_420: make that Notification Area ... sorry
[07:12] <chris_420> ahhh ok
[07:12] <RedScare> ushumit, did you clean install or upgrade
[07:12] <Mathman> qasim: dot.  almost sounds like it's not likeing something along the lines of ./command.  but that cant be it.  why would it say "dot"?  I dunno, try reinstalling make?  try with a real simple makefile?  perhaps it's your makefile
[07:12] <ushimitsudoki> RedScare: upgrade, not clean install
[07:13] <chris_420> would you by any chacne happen to know the applet for the networking that initially appears beside the "userr name?
[07:13] <pen> musikgoat: hm, tilda doesn't start
[07:13] <qasim> Mathman: i have reinstalled make again but to no avail. And the same makefile is executing perfectly fine on gutsy
[07:13] <RedScare> I did a clean install, since I haven't seen that particular issue it may have something to do with a leftover FF extension from FF2
[07:13] <_kevin_> a feature i'm missing in hardy is the ability to shift resolutions with ctrl+alt+-/+. I examined the xorg.conf file and found no "modes" line. If I create a modes line will the resolution keys work?
[07:13] <musikgoat> pen: ls -l  in that directory
[07:13] <RedScare> have you tried a complete removal, and reinstall of FF3?
[07:13] <Tazbobu> Ok, sometimes Ubuntu really sucks... I understand why people give up and go to windows.. I have upgraded to a new distro 4 times since I started with Ubuntu, and every time it hoses a bunch of stuff... it seems ridiculous that a simple NVIDIA graphics driver gets messed up every time
[07:13] <musikgoat> pen and make sure you have the x bit set
[07:13] <pen> musikgoat: -rwxr-xr-x
[07:14] <pen> musikgoat: is it good?
[07:14] <chris_420> oh snap got both back haha
[07:14] <fde> chris_420: that is nm-applet 'Network Monitor' I think is the same thing.
[07:14] <musikgoat> pen yes, if you are the owner
[07:14] <Mathman> qasim: hmm, that wouldn't mean it's not your makefile that's screwed up somehow I don't think.  I mean, at least try something real simple.  does make even work for that?
[07:14] <chris_420> fde solve both my probs with the notification area haha
[07:14] <musikgoat> pen well thats fine anyways
[07:14] <zedster_> anyone able to help me?
[07:14] <pen> musikgoat: maybe I should wait for it to start?
[07:14] <ushimitsudoki> RedScare: not yet. I wanted to see if there was anything out there about this (or possibly strange input issues)
[07:14] <fde> chris_420: Wait, it's not... heh... try 'nm-applet &' in a terminal
[07:14] <musikgoat> pen: 20 seconds goes pretty quickly... but yes
[07:15] <fde> chris_420: hah... that works... now to figure out why my nm-applet died  :P
[07:15] <chris_420> i have NM applet on one of my bars already and the "signal" chart is not working haha
[07:16] <grayKot> how to start some application in desk 2 while, i'm at desk 1 ?
[07:16] <pen> musikgoat: it works
[07:16] <Mathman> Tazbobu: ubuntu isn't the only distro on the block you know.  but then again, yeah, it's not going to be perfect on every single setup.  but then in ubuntu's defense, they can't ship nvidia junk out of the box I don't think, so yeah, figure it out.
[07:16] <Tazbobu> any simple way to fix my nvidia driver?  it says it is there and running but I can't access any of the nvidia settings
[07:16] <chris_420> fde sorry bout the death of your NM
[07:16] <musikgoat> pen: cool
[07:16] <fde> chris_420: It's ok, the command I told you to get it back does in fact work  :)
[07:16] <pen> musikgoat: ok, now I'm goign to test it real
[07:16] <musikgoat> pen ok
[07:17] <fde> chris_420: No harm no foul  :)
[07:17] <Tazbobu> Mathman: my point is, as long as Ubuntu has been around, you would think they could get it to install right on the first time with the most popular video cards in the world.
[07:17] <chris_420> fde: lol true...
[07:17] <chris_420> well now back to getting my appearance right lol all the issues so far are out of the way.... now time to make it look pretty haha
[07:17] <Mathman> Tazbobu: ubuntu hasn't been around very long
[07:18] <fde> chris_420: Take a look around www.gnome-look.org
[07:18] <Mathman> eh, computer years, I suppose it's been around a while, but still.
[07:18] <chris_420> HAHAAAAAA  FDE thats the one place i always look to
[07:18] <chris_420>  trying to find a light or white wallpaper as we speak lol
[07:18] <Mathman> Tazbobu: my answer?  try mandriva
[07:18] <fde> Mathman: still only 4 years or so...
[07:19] <zedster_> anyone why if I run modprobe psmouse, after stopping it, would my touchpad work for a few seconds and then stop?
[07:19] <iRRVi> i need...my bluetooth mouse...to work
[07:19] <Mathman> fde: ha, spose it might be that long at that.  time flies
[07:19] <chris_420> FDE i got inspired to go all white with my appearance... from a music video haha
[07:19] <RedScare> maybe someone knows how enable multiple desktop wallpapers on different workspaces in gnome?
[07:19] <AgentHeX> !virt-manager
[07:19] <ushimitsudoki> Tazbobu: Which drivers are you trying to use? nv or nvidia?
[07:19] <fde> Mathman: first release was December '04... hence Warty is 4.10
[07:20] <fde> November too
[07:20] <RedScare> because I run virtualbox XP on my second workspace seamlessly
[07:20] <RedScare> and would like a wallpaper to reflect this
[07:20] <iRRVi> 8.04...bluetooth mouse not working...followed the thing on the wiki sorta thing on the ubuntu site...to no avail >_< it shows as connected but it wont control the mouse
[07:20] <fde> Or October... I need coffee
[07:20] <Tazbobu> Mathman: I don't really want to switch, it is just a pain to have to redo my video, wine, network, moblock, etc
[07:20] <Mathman> fde: ha, 3 and a half almost then
[07:20] <fde> Mathman: Plus the time it spent as no-name.org getting up and running...
[07:20] <chris_420> aight im outty.... laters peoples
[07:20] <Mathman> Tazbobu: suit yourself.  I'm just pointing out there are other options you may not have explored
[07:21] <RedScare> interfacelift.com may have an acceptable background
[07:21] <Tazbobu> ushimitsudoki: I've tried both.. neither one shows me the proper resolutions.. I have tried selecting the monitor by detecting it, also tried plug and play, also tried selecting my actual monitor.. no configuration is showing the proper resolutions
[07:21] <musikgoat> pen: did it work?
[07:21] <x1250> When is #ubuntu+1 coming back?
[07:21] <pen> musikgoat: yea. it works
[07:21] <pen> musikgoat: thx
[07:21] <RedScare> closer to october
[07:21] <musikgoat> yw
[07:21] <bleedingmoon> if i got an hard disk with serveral partitions i can install ubuntu on one of them and it wont damage the rest, right?
[07:22] <fde> x1250: It is likely there currently, but not active due to hardy and intrepid being exactly the same currently...
[07:22] <zedster_> bleedingmoon: yes, unless one of them is visit in which case the mbr is a pain in the rear
[07:22] <zedster_> bleedingmoon: you need like neo grub or something to do it
[07:22] <ushimitsudoki> Tazbobu: I use the drivers from nvidia, not from restricted. Have you been able to install those?
[07:22] <x1250> they're not exactly the same anymore, intrepid is already broken :)
[07:22] <bleedingmoon> i cant fix it with the windows cd?
[07:22] <Tazbobu> bleedingmoon: and a health portion of luck or patience
[07:23] <fde> x1250: The devs generally relax until after the sprints or whatever... the developer meetings...
[07:23] <Mathman> zedster_: you sure about that.  a plain old grub, least I thought it was a plain old grub, worked just fine with a vista dual boot setup for one of the jerks over here.
[07:23] <Finnish_> What tool to use in Gimp, if I want borders of picture smoother? Sort of making them black against background?
[07:23] <Tazbobu> ushimitsudoki: from the actual nvidia site or just installed from synaptic?
[07:23] <Mathman> zedster_: you meant vista, right?
[07:23] <ebroder> Does anyone know anything about getting the mga video driver to work on Hardy?
[07:23] <Lapinux> can someone help me figure out what device my UPS is on?
[07:23] <iRRVi> in 8.04 my bluetooth mouse shows as connected but when i try to move the cursor with it, it doesnt work >_<
[07:23] <ebroder> I have a driver that worked with Gutsy and doesn't anymore
[07:23] <bleedingmoon> Tazbobu, i got 2 windows partitions, C & D, i wanna install ubuntu on D
[07:23] <Mathman> Lapinux: sounds like a job for "dmesg"
[07:23] <ushimitsudoki> Tazbobu: from the actual nvidia site. I didn't have any luck with nv or the ones the restricted manager tried to apply
[07:24] <astro76> Lapinux: USB?
[07:24] <Lapinux> Mathman: ok, let me take a look and see if i can spot it
[07:24] <Lapinux> astro76: yes
[07:24] <Tazbobu> ushimitsudoki: thanks i'll try that
[07:24] <legolasw> Hi
[07:24] <bleedingmoon> it will damage my MBR?
[07:24] <bleedingmoon> and how i fix it
[07:24] <Lapinux> astro76: well maybe
[07:24] <grayKot> ﻿ /msg ubottu etiquette
[07:24] <astro76> Lapinux: right after you plug it in type dmesg, it should say
[07:24] <N1N31NCHN41L6> ok using Super Grub i found a menu that shows both ubuntu(hd0,0) and puppy(hd0,4)  what shall i do to get puppy grubbed up and not kill ubuntu
[07:24] <legolasw> Can I ask something unrelated to Ubuntu?
[07:24] <RedScare> Taz
[07:24] <Nervetatoo> I have problems getting sound to work in 8.04. Installed form scratch on an asus u2e which has a intel ICH8. There are no errors and all playback software seems to function normaly except there is no sound output ofc
[07:24] <ushimitsudoki> Tazbobu: hold on let me give a like with a guide. because it is a bit tricky...looking for the link now
[07:24] <musikgoat> bleedingmoon: which version of windows do you have?
[07:24] <bleedingmoon> xp
[07:25] <bleedingmoon> both
[07:25] <RedScare> yes, a guide would be agood
[07:25] <Lapinux> astro76: its a serial to usb
[07:25] <musikgoat> it'll be fine then
[07:25] <bleedingmoon> ok
[07:25] <bleedingmoon> :D
[07:25] <legolasw> I bought something from Amazon and I used my CC number for the payment. Does it reduce the order cost from my CC at once?
[07:25] <musikgoat> bleedingmoon: grub will install and give you the choice of which OS to boot
[07:25] <Lapinux> astro76: looks like a rj45 connector on one end
[07:25] <RedScare> you just need to install grub on the guided setup process honestly
[07:25] <bleedingmoon> grub?
[07:25] <iRRVi> logolasw: you can...might not be appreciated, or acted kindly upon...but theres nothing stopping you
[07:25] <musikgoat> bleedingmoon: the bootloader
[07:25] <bleedingmoon> ok
[07:25] <musikgoat> !grub
[07:25] <RedScare> its part of the install package when you install ubuntu
[07:25] <astro76> Lapinux: if it's APC they use proprietary cables but it's still USB
[07:26] <tushar> hi all
[07:26] <Lapinux> astro76: yes apc
[07:26] <ushimitsudoki> Tazbobu: Here is a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual  It is helpful to make sure you disable the nv and restricted manager stuff, which always seems to want to override the nvidia drivers
[07:26] <Beefeater> Good morning fellas! Is there any log where I can see if a laptop lid has been closed?
[07:26] <Lapinux> astro76: should i see it specify apc in dmesg
[07:26] <Tazbobu> bleedingmoon: as long as your xp partitions are on just one physical drive and the MBR is on that drive grub will set it up all nice for you
[07:26] <iRRVi> in 8.04 my bluetooth mouse is not working...could be the mouse...but idk...any ideas?
[07:26] <tehk> Can anyone tell me how I would go about turning my capslock into an additional control key in the __console__, the old method using /etc/console-tools/remap doesnt work
[07:26] <astro76> Lapinux: it will be the last few lines of the output, after you plug it in
[07:26] <bleedingmoon> ok
[07:27] <RedScare> After you've installed Ubuntu, it will automatically setup a boot option for XP then you can go in a modify any aesthetics you want inside ubuntu
[07:27] <legend> hello everyone
[07:27] <Tazbobu> I had my MBR on a secondary drive once and grub misconfigured everything it was a pain to figure out
[07:27] <Lapinux> astro76: [   45.608410] hiddev97hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [American Power Conversion Back-UPS RS 1000 FW:7.g8 .D USB FW:g8 ] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-7
[07:28] <NemesisD> question, i think hardy installs .24 kernel, gutsy i had .22. i think i kept the old menu.lst and i suspect thats why i'm having problems, anyone have any ideas?
[07:28] <iRRVi> i really dont want to buy a usb mouse...my laptop has no PS/2 ports so i cant use any of my current ones...anyone can help me with my bluetooth problem, it would be much appreciated (the one i've asked like 5 times...)
[07:28] <Lapinux> astro76: in this apcupsd config i have it wants a /dev/tty
[07:28] <RedScare> what problems again?
[07:28] <surplusxmas> Can I ask Kubuntu install questions here, or are they limited to #kubuntu?
[07:28] <RedScare> you can choose to overwrite the menu.lst @ time of install
[07:29] <o0Chris0o> !patience | iRRVi
[07:29] <fde> surplusxmas: You can try, should be the same process, just different interface...
[07:29] <NemesisD> redarrow, can't load my restricted nvidia drivers properly, also my twinview is gone
[07:29] <NemesisD> whoops, RedScare *
[07:29] <NemesisD> also im past the point of install
[07:29] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i told it to boot (hda0,4) which is puppy and it still loaded my ubuntu (hdao,0)
[07:29] <Lapinux> astro76: you make anything of that?
[07:29] <RedScare> yea, this has been a reoccurring problem Nemeiss
[07:29] <stachou57> ubuntu french
[07:30] <o0Chris0o> !french
[07:30] <NemesisD> RedScare, uname -r says im using 2.6.22, how do i start using 2.6.24
[07:30] <anacaona_> hello hello. did a manual upgrade from gutsy to heron (via the alternate CD). apache is acting weird since - i've tried restarting the server and get the message: No apache MPM package installed.
[07:30] <mkquist> i seem to have lost the maximize/minimize/close buttons on my browser and applications, anyone know what causes that or if there is a setting i've missed? also cant seem to drag things arouond anymore..
[07:30] <lethalamby> anyone here worked with g2ipmg on ubuntu. Mine giving segmentation faults. Else please suggest another version of IPmsg with source
[07:30] <astro76> Lapinux: http://www.apcupsd.com/manual/USB_Configuration.html#SECTION000101400000000000000
[07:31] <ebroder> Anyone know about getting the Matrox G400 to work with Hardy?
[07:31] <RedScare> Nemesis, your boot line needs to point to the new kernel
[07:31] <fde> anacaona_: If you did a fresh install, you'll have to reinstall apache etc... I hope you did backups
[07:31] <Lapinux> astro76: thanks, i will see if i can make anything of it
[07:31] <RedScare> very honestly, reinstalling grub alone maybe a good way to resolve the issue
[07:31] <NemesisD> redarrow, i tried changing all mentions of .22 to .24 and i got file not found
[07:31] <NeoGeo64> the default ubuntu theme is so boring
[07:31] <magnetron> NeoGeo64: then don't use it
[07:32] <qasim> Mathman: aptitude install graphviz solved the problem :-). whenever a dot error is occured, it means graphviz is needs to be installed on the system for image manipulations
[07:32] <raybr> hey guys, i just downloaded a skype-debian_2.0.0.68-1_i386.deb from skype.com but am not sure how to install it, can someone please help?
[07:32] <fde> NeoGeo64: Look around www.gnome-look.org
[07:32] <NemesisD> RedScare, i'm in kind of a tricky situation, i need to use windows bootloader to boot properly, i cannot have grub touch my MBR
[07:32] <zedster1> this is zedster, my computer went nutz, sudo modprobe psmouse makes my touchpad work for a second then it stops any ideas?
[07:32] <NemesisD> RedScare, im fine with it doing anything to the /boot directory but it cannot affect my mbr
[07:32] <RedScare> is there a particular reason nemesis?
[07:32] <fde> NeoGeo64: Defaults are supposed to be changed  :)
[07:33] <lethalamby> anyone here worked with g2ipmg on ubuntu. Mine giving segmentation faults. Else please suggest another version of IPmsg with source
[07:33] <shashi__> In Ubuntu, when you install a package either through "ADD/Remove" or "Synaptic" , where it will keep the downloaded packages ?
[07:33] <legolasw> Is there any way to see VPN connection debug messages or log file?
[07:33] <zedster1> NemesisD: theres a program for windows neogrub I think will help with that
[07:33] <NeoGeo64> right now im now even using the GUI
[07:33] <NemesisD> RedScare, wonky drive setup, don't want to get into it besides the fact that it took me 2-3 days to get it working this way and i dont have the time or inclination to go through that again
[07:33] <RedScare> understandable
[07:33] <NemesisD> eh i don't need help with that part of it, im ok with using ntldr, it has an option for ubuntu which then loads grub, so its all good
[07:34] <Judeglass> whats the best flash player plugin to us in firefox under ubuntu
[07:34] <Judeglass> use*
[07:34] <NemesisD> right now i just want my accelerated graphics/compiz and twinview back lol
[07:34] <legolasw> Anyone interested in VPN connection problems?
[07:34] <astro76> shashi__: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:35] <Judeglass> what flash plugin do you guys use in firefox?
[07:35] <RedScare> message nemesis?
[07:35] <NemesisD> RedScare, sure
[07:35] <NemesisD> oh wait were you asking to pm or do you mean error message
[07:35] <RedScare> if you cat me your menu.lst I can see if I see any inconsistency
[07:35] <NemesisD> k
[07:35] <NemesisD> lemme switch to the comp in question
[07:35] <astro76> !info flashplugin-nonfree | Judeglass
[07:35] <shashi__> astro76, Thank you.
[07:36] <astro76> Judeglass: package name is flashplugin-nonfree
[07:36] <ackbahr> Hello!
[07:36] <legolasw>  Is there any way to see VPN connection debug messages or log file?
[07:36] <zedster1> please I need my laptop for class tomorrow, why would sudo modprobe psmouse make my touchpad work for a second and then stop? and why would an xorg reset not help?
[07:36] <Lapinux> astro76: i dont think thats what im looking for
[07:36] <Judeglass> ok, thanks astro76
[07:36] <astro76> Lapinux: it's not going to be /dev/tty*, that's for serial
[07:37] <lethalamby> Please help . I am typing this out for the 3rd time
[07:37] <lethalamby> anyone here worked with g2ipmg on ubuntu. Mine giving segmentation faults. Else please suggest another version of IPmsg with source
[07:38] <ackbahr> I'm using an ATI card with Hardy, and I've got the choice between my widescreen being aknowledged (1280x768) but without graphical acceleration (when the proprietary driver is ENABLED), or graphical accel in 1024x768 (when the driver is DISABLED). Can somebody help get both?
[07:38] <Lapinux> astro76: yeah, i just spotted that in the config, thing is its serial on one end and usb on the other
[07:38] <sc006> anyone have problems with 8.04 and ut2004 graphics?
[07:38] <astro76> Lapinux: if it plugs into the usb port on the computer, it's usb, I think they use RJ45 on the ups end so they can sell you the cable
[07:38] <AliRezaTaleghani> hi, i have a problem with pidgin and my google or hotmail, they need TLS/SSL support!  which package should use for them?!!
[07:38] <ackbahr> yashi : hello, by the way! :)
[07:39] <astro76> Lapinux: not to mention the dmesg output
[07:39] <Lapinux> astro76: yeah
[07:39] <sc006> since upgrading my graphics are not right
[07:39] <DATmafia> ow so sc006
[07:39] <legolasw> Anyone interested in testing VPN connection problems?
[07:39] <Lapinux> astro76: its a bummer, i cant get this app to work so i can recalibrate the battery runtime
[07:40] <Lapinux> astro76: i just hooked up some monster battery's to it and the meter is way off
[07:40] <surplusxmas_> my 8.04 install fails at "select and install software". I've heard this is a common problem but can't find anything on it.
[07:42] <lethalamby> any one who uses IPmessenger on ubuntu....Please I need help
[07:42] <Don_Miguel> warriorforgod: sorry, I missed your question earlier ...
[07:42] <Y-Town> How would I turn off the obnoxious system beep?
[07:42] <vinboy> hi
[07:42] <Don_Miguel>  nope, just a local "honorific"
[07:42] <Y-Town> Nevermind.... found it
[07:42] <maco> Y-Town: system ->preferences ->sound
[07:42] <vinboy> is there application that shows what programs is using up the bandwidth?
[07:42] <anacaona_> fde: sorry, stepped away for a bit. its not a fresh install, its an upgrade from gutsy.
[07:42] <raybr> does anyone know how to configure xchat to switch between chatrooms using cntrl + tab?
[07:43] <oddalot> vinboy system monitor?
[07:43] <Y-Town> maco: Thanks though  :o)'
[07:43] <oddalot> wait
[07:43] <oddalot> nope
[07:43] <vinboy> oddalot: sys mon only show cpu and mem
[07:43] <zedster1> why would sudo modprobe psmouse make my touchpad work for a second and then stop? and why would an xorg reset not help?
[07:43] <oddalot> it shows network, just no detailed
[07:44] <surplusxmas_> 8.04 installation error: "select and install software installation step failed"  any suggestions?
[07:44] <fde> anacaona_: I'm not too familiar with Apache, you might want to try #ubuntu-server
[07:45] <NemesisD> hey RedScare it appears the driver is go!
[07:45] <astro76> vinboy: iftop
[07:45] <astro76> vinboy: install that package, then sudo iftop
[07:45] <vinboy> thanks astro76
[07:45] <sc006> any one play ut2004 with 8.04
[07:46] <Don_Miguel> mathman: [01:44] not taken personally, and YES ! that was one of the first things I checked --> IS IT PLUGGED IN ? ( yes, it is ! ) Thanks again for your help ... I'l try again later ...
[07:47] <legolasw> Anyone interested in testing VPN connection problems?
[07:48] <magnetron> ask, legolasw
[07:48] <anacaona_> fde: thanks, will check that out.
[07:48] <ebroder> Does anyone know how to get the tuxx-home.at Matrox MGA drivers to work with Hardy?
[07:50] <nickthorley> bazhang: are you around?
[07:50] <legolasw> I have user/pass and IP address of VPN gateway and it does not connect
[07:50] <hogne> Hey
[07:50] <hogne> I've had many times now that I can't kill processes in Hardy
[07:50] <legolasw> problem is that It does not shows any meaningful error about the reason that it does not connect
[07:50] <hogne> Now eclipse locked and I get from ps: "7117 ?        00:00:01 eclipse"
[07:50] <iRRVi> eff this, i just use this usb mouse i have for my desktop :D
[07:50] <hogne> I can't sudo kill -9 it, can't sudo killall eclipse it
[07:51] <hogne> I had this yesterday also
[07:51] <hogne> Only thing that works is to reboot
[07:51] <jingjing> when ubuntu7.10 expire support?
[07:51] <nickthorley> is there a dissadvantage to using ndis to get your wireless card working such as speed or battery life etc
[07:51] <hogne> The process uses no cpu
[07:51] <clarity> http://www.danish-schnapps-recipes.com/cinnamon.html
[07:51] <clarity> err
[07:51] <clarity> sorry
[07:51] <fde> nickthorley: Only real issue these days is no utilization of NetworkManager (no easy roaming)
[07:52] <harry_> anyone here who can help me with a couple of ubuntu problems?
[07:52] <hogne> Anyone know how to kill a process beyond using the kill command, or know some special funky way to do it?
[07:52] <jingjing> when ubuntu 7.10 desktop expire support time??
[07:52] <DistroJockey> jingjing, April 2009
[07:52] <nickthorley> fde: so you cant search for access points - you have to manually add them?
[07:52] <legolasw> Any comment?@ <magnetron>
[07:52] <harry_> hogne: after kill -9, there is none
[07:52] <harry_> unless it's a zombie: kill the parent
[07:52] <hogne> harry_: is it a bug in the hardy kernel?
[07:52] <fde> nickthorley: Yes, it's treated as a wired connection as far as the system is concerned.
[07:52] <harry_> reaper will fix the rest
[07:52] <harry_> hogne: don't know actually
[07:53] <harry_> i have a few problems
[07:53] <hogne> harry: How do I see the process tree?
[07:53] <harry_> pstree
[07:53] <tuntun> gparted and qtparted report that I have 'no devices' I tried root but neither of them are doing anything. Whats wrong?
[07:53] <lethalamby> My RAM usage shown in top and system monitor is totally different. Top says I am using up over a gig of ram while sys monitor says about 600MB. Any ideas why. It was like this yesterday also
[07:53] <jumbers> I updated to Hardy and my sound stopped working. I went to the Dell Wiki and followed its information for restoring the sound, and it still won't work
[07:53] <hogne> harry_: eclipse runs on init
[07:53] <nickthorley> fde: ok i can compromise on that for the time being just to get my wireless working - i am hoping a fix for my card will be out soon as it is one of the main ones
[07:54] <harry_> hogne: whats the status of eclipse?
[07:54] <jingjing> DistroJockey: thankyou! , on 8.04 desktop resolution very low (800*600) but 7.10 have have 1024*768
[07:54] <legolasw> Any comment?@ <magnetron>
[07:54] <RedScare> NemeisD
[07:54] <magnetron> legolasw: if anyone knows, they will answer.
[07:54] <hogne> harry_: How do I see it?
[07:54] <harry_> ps aux | grep eclipse
[07:54] <lethalamby> RedScare, NemesisD offline
[07:54] <RedScare> is he
[07:54] <DistroJockey> jingjing, *nods* have seen many say that. Might be worth searching launchpad.net about that
[07:55] <NemesisD> no im not
[07:55] <legolasw> If I give you my user and pass, can you test it? @ megatron
[07:55] <RedScare> he should be back
[07:55] <hogne> harry_: hogne     7117  0.2  1.8 426404 75780 ?        D    08:47   0:01 /home/hogne/Programs/eclipse/eclipse
[07:55] <nickthorley> whats the main site to log ubuntu bugs ?
[07:55] <NemesisD> RedScare, it works now, turned out i wrote the path wrong in menu.lst
[07:55] <astro76> tuntun: running them from your installed system or livecd?
[07:55] <RedScare> NemesisD, you said the drive was a good
[07:55] <NemesisD> using the new kernel seems to fix everything
[07:55] <tuntun> astro76, installed
[07:55] <harry_> so it's dead... give it a : kill -9 7117
[07:55] <RedScare> yea, I was just about to say
[07:55] <astro76> tuntun: wubi?
[07:55] <harry_> and hope for the best
[07:55] <magnetron> legolasw: no. and it's magnetron, not megatron
[07:55] <lethalamby> My RAM usage shown in top and system monitor is totally different. Top says I am using up over a gig of ram while sys monitor says about 600MB. Any ideas why. It was like this yesterday also
[07:55] <tuntun> astro76, no
[07:55] <harry_> it might be stuck in a non interruptible IO
[07:55] <nickthorley> nemesisd: wish it would fix my wireless card haha
[07:55] <harry_> which is blocked for some reason
[07:55] <hogne> harry_: : hogne     7117  0.2  1.8 426404 75780 ?        D    08:47   0:01 /home/hogne/Programs/eclipse/eclipse
[07:55] <lethalamby> RedScare,  Any idea why this happening with me
[07:55] <hogne> harry_: still there
[07:56] <NemesisD> lol
[07:56] <NemesisD> bummer
[07:56] <RedScare> 24-16 it what you should be on
[07:56] <djdarkman> hello, if the restricted driver manager doens`t manage to set up the firmware(broadcom) how can I run it manualy trough the terminal?
[07:56] <hogne> harry_: I got this exact same with nautilus yesterday and had to reboot..
[07:56] <astro76> tuntun: what do you have? what does sudo fdisk -l show?
[07:56] <harry_> hogne: depending on your asm skills, you can attach a debugger to it
[07:56] <hogne> harry_: I don't have asm skills =)
[07:56] <harry_> and play around ... see what it's doing
[07:56] <hogne> harry_: sorry..
[07:56] <legolasw> Sorry for mis-spell. Thanks.
[07:56] <MrPockets> djdarkman, what firmware are you trying to upgrade?
[07:56] <hogne> harry_: then my only last resort is to reboot?
[07:56] <harry_> then i'm affraid i can 't help you further
[07:57] <harry_> just leave it :)
[07:57] <tuntun> astro76, 6 partitions
[07:57] <harry_> it might just die after a while
[07:57] <lethalamby> RedScare, tell me some other ubuntu channels . Need lots of answers
[07:57] <hogne> harry_: can't leave it, its splash screen is on my desktop
[07:57] <tuntun> astro76, over 2 discs
[07:57] <harry_> xkill?
[07:57] <harry_> doesn't xkill remove it?
[07:57] <hogne> harry_: gonna try
[07:58] <hogne> harry_: yes it removed it, the process is still there though
[07:58] <astro76> tuntun: fdisk showed them?
[07:58] <billy12> djdark: flower thw server intrsurtions
[07:58] <hogne> harry_: shall I post a bug report on the ubuntu forums?
[07:58] <tuntun> astro76, yes
[07:58] <harry_> can anyone help with my problem: i have a ipw2200 wifi card, when i boot, it doesn't see my wpa2 wifi network, i can't connect to it
[07:58] <dfranke> Hi, I've just grudgingly switched from Debian stable to Hardy and I'd like to configure my sources.list to feed me nothing besides security updates.  Is hardy-updates the best I can get, or is there something more stable available?
[07:58] <RedScare> lethallamby
[07:58] <RedScare> lethalamby
[07:58] <harry_> hogne: don't know if it's a ubuntu problem or an eclipse problem
[07:58] <lethalamby> RedScare, ya
[07:59] <white_eagle> ok, guys I have problems in here
[07:59] <white_eagle> I have a half working hardy system
[07:59] <djdarkman> MrPockets: I have a friend who has trouble installing the broadcom wireless firmware trough the restricted drivers manager, and I would like to give him the command line commands instead
[07:59] <RedScare> AFAIK, they just have different ways to show used memory
[07:59] <Uplink> ubuntu wont load my broadcom drivers :(
[07:59] <astro76> dfranke: you want hardy-security and hardy-updates
[07:59] <RedScare> To get similar values, take the 'used' from top, and subtract 'buffers' and 'cached'
[07:59] <dfranke> There are a bunch of commented out security.ubuntu.com entries, but if I uncomment them then apt-get update hangs.
[08:00] <billy12> djdark: what ubuntu you have
[08:00] <diagon> I'm having problems with my laptop shutting down, I think due to overheating
[08:00] <white_eagle> look, I am logged in as root, because I cant do anything from my account because I can't sudo, and when i do sudo I get that the host (whiteeagle-laptop) is unknown
[08:00] <RedScare> SM only the apps
[08:00] <diagon> I'm sure there's an easy way to adjust the temp at which the fan should kick in, right?
[08:00] <white_eagle> please tell me how can I fix it from here
[08:00] <dfranke> astro76: I *think* I only want hardy-security, but as I just said it doesn't seem to work.
[08:00] <lethalamby> RedScare,
[08:00] <tuntun> dfranke, system > administration > synaptic > settings > repositories > updates ?...
[08:00] <lethalamby> My RAM usage shown in top and system monitor is totally different. Top says I am using up over a gig of ram while sys monitor says about 600MB. Any ideas why. It was like this yesterday also
[08:01] <white_eagle> hello?
[08:01] <dfranke> tuntun: this is server edition, I don't have a GUI yet.
[08:01] <RedScare> right, this is because TOP factors in everything, SM only factors APPs
[08:01] <RedScare> you are in fact using over a gig total
[08:01] <olskolirc> hey guys, I installed a tar.gz of xmms and now I see we have xmms2 in the Hardy Heron repository.  How do I uninstall my xmms....tar.gz?
[08:01] <astro76> dfranke: well there's no reason not to enable main, universe, multiverse or restricted, as  they don't change
[08:01] <lethalamby> RedScare, You mean ubuntu is using more than a GB of RAM. Ubuntu ultimate
[08:01] <dfranke> astro76: right, I've got those.  But I don't want non-security-related bugfixes.
[08:02] <astro76> dfranke: so what happens with -updates disabled ?
[08:02] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, edit /etc/hosts and make sure you have both a 127.0.0.1 line and a 127.0.1.1
[08:02] <RedScare> yes, I'm assuming you're running compiz-fusion
[08:02] <Uplink> ubuntu wont load my broadcom drivers :(
[08:02] <RedScare> broadcom hates me uplink
[08:02] <dfranke> astro76: exactly what you'd expect.  But if I enable -security, things hang.  I don't know whether the server is just down or what.
[08:02] <white_eagle> http://rafb.net/p/x7jW2z38.txt
[08:02] <white_eagle> see that
[08:02] <white_eagle> I have dependency problems
[08:02] <hogne> doesn't the fact that userland processes can enter an unkillable "D" state beat the purpose of protected memory?
[08:03] <white_eagle> the update was interrupted by some error
[08:03] <Uplink> RedScare, it detects em but failes to load them
[08:03] <hogne> could have just as well run AmigaOS! =)
[08:03] <white_eagle> i was upgrading to hardy
[08:03] <b0x> how can i find out wat version of ubuntu i have
[08:03] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: I don't have those 2 lines
[08:03] <b0x> like i had 7.10 but i dno if it upgraded propper
[08:03] <b0x> so i wanna check
[08:03] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: should I add them at the bottom?
[08:04] <DistroJockey> white_eagle,  mine looks like:  127.0.0.1       localhost      <linebreakhere>     127.0.1.1       myubuntu.home.gateway   myubuntu
[08:04] <RedScare> b0x, the geek way or the GUI way?
[08:04] <b0x> any
[08:04] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, top is better
[08:04] <astro76> b0x: lsb_release -a
[08:04] <harry_> is there anyone here who knows what can be done about a broken keyboard indicator applet ?
[08:04] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: tell me exactly where should I add them, plesae
[08:04] <harry_> is there anyone here who knows what can be done about a broken wpa2 wifi problem at boottime?
[08:04] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, at the very top of /etc/hosts
[08:04] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: here is pastebin http://rafb.net/p/zBNDZF93.txt
[08:04] <b0x> thanx
[08:04] <RedScare> yes harry!
[08:04] <RedScare> what a pain that was
[08:04] <harry_> is there anyone here who knows what can be done about a broken mythtv vieuwing problem?
[08:05] <Uplink> lol
[08:05] <RedScare> but I had the same problem in gutsy
[08:05] <harry_> RedScare: did you get it fixed?
[08:05] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: I don't want to mess up, please edit that file
[08:05] <RedScare> yes, after a clean install :)
[08:05] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, yep right at the top
[08:05] <harry_> is there anyone here who knows what can be done about a broken remote problem?
[08:05] <RedScare> Harry, describe the specific WPA2 problem you're having
[08:05] <pawan> hi
[08:06] <pawan> how to repair grub
[08:06] <harry_> RedScare: in gutsy, i had to remove 85-ifupdown from udev.d/rules.d
[08:06] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, here's mine as a guide:  http://pastebin.com/f5e58e2f1
[08:06] <harry_> well... disable, then it worked at boottime
[08:06] <pawan> i installed vista and it removed my grub
[08:06] <harry_> now, i upgraded (restored the udev crap_
[08:06] <HermanChess> where can I see my hardware?
[08:06] <harry_> and now, when i reboot, it doesn't see my network
[08:06] <pawan> but ubuntu is installed but cant select it
[08:06] <harry_> if i click and edit networks, its there
[08:06] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. I remember Gutsy Gibbon having an awesome application for handing .bin files (it practically mounted it, but it was great). Now after I upgraded to Hardy I don't have it anymore and so I'm woundering what would that kind of thing be called?
[08:07] <RedScare> pawan, install EasyBCD inside vista too manage it
[08:07] <harry_> but there's no way to tell it to connect to that config
[08:07] <RedScare> please continue harry
[08:07] <alienseer23> i have 3 partitions mounted in "/media/" that belong to "root:plugdev" and have pretty restricctive permissions, but all of my media is on them, I cannot get to it, "sudo chown" and "sudo chmod" have no effect... how can I fix this?
[08:07] <RedScare> hm
[08:07] <dfranke> astro76: ah, now it's working.  Guess the server was just down.
[08:07] <astro76> HermanChess: lshw, lspci, lsusb
[08:07] <harry_> so now, i removed the ifupdown rule again
[08:07] <pawan> where to get easybcd
[08:07] <harry_> and manually do a /etc/init.d/network restart
[08:07] <RedScare> BCD Easy
[08:07] <harry_> and it connects
[08:07] <RedScare> free download
[08:07] <ferronica> hi all
[08:07] <RedScare> google
[08:07] <RedScare> what a pain that must be harry
[08:07] <harry_> it's a ipw2200
[08:07] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: and what should I add at the right side of the second numbers?
[08:08] <white_eagle> whiteeagle-laptop?
[08:08] <harry_> does give me a "strange" error in dmesg tough
[08:08] <RedScare> I'm on iwl3945
[08:08] <astro76> dfranke: cool
[08:08] <hogne> Man
[08:08] <harry_> [  221.971060] ipw2200: Failed to send SYSTEM_CONFIG: Already sending a command.
[08:08] <hogne> ls crashed and I can't kill it
[08:08] <hogne> wow
[08:08] <hogne> this is bad
[08:08] <RedScare> is that a proprietary driver harry?
[08:08] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, yourhostname.domainname  yourhostname
[08:08] <harry_> think so
[08:08] <pawan> where to get itr
[08:08] <ferronica> i have downloded ubuntu 8.04 ISO image after burning, checking integrity fail
[08:08] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: how am I supposed to know tat?
[08:08] <white_eagle> that*
[08:08] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, replacing with values appropriate
[08:09] <RedScare> http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
[08:09] <white_eagle> ohhh
[08:09] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: oh
[08:09] <dfranke> alright, now to get X working with my three displays.  I had a nice hand-written xorg.config on my old system that I forgot to back up :-(
[08:09] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, just make something up, should be fine
[08:09] <white_eagle> and If I don't have a host name
[08:09] <astro76> ferronica: check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded, if that's good, burn at a slower speed
[08:09] <astro76> !md5 | ferronica
[08:09] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, can't be any worse than it is now :)
[08:09] <Twigman> Hi All... can't start hardy installer :-/
[08:10] <harry_> RedScare: ?
[08:10] <RedScare> can you check harry, under the GUI System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[08:10] <harry_> ah
[08:10] <ferronica> astro76: MD5SUM is okay
[08:10] <lethalamby> RedScare, I checked system monitor docs. It mentions clearly that it shows total memory usage. And its usage seems more realistic also.
[08:10] <Twigman> This is on a Dell Vostro - fairly common piece of hardware..
[08:10] <diagon> Okay, so acpitool shows my laptop's thermal trip at 105 C
[08:10] <lethalamby> I am not running any application that will take 1 GB RAM
[08:10] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: so it looks like this http://pastebin.com/m4723c1b0
[08:10] <Twigman> I'm being dumped into busybox....
[08:10] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: is it ok?
[08:11] <RedScare> really lethal? I find that buffers and cached aren't typically included on mine
[08:11] <diagon> also I've found out that toshiba kernel stuff isn't loaded, and I tried some shot-in-the-dark "modprobe -l |grep toshiba" and then tried just adding it, didn't seem to work
[08:11] <harry_> ah
[08:11] <harry_> no , only my nvidia driver
[08:11] <astro76> lethalamby: I would trust free -m
[08:11] <bobbie4> I'm going to bed now, g'nite
[08:11] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, yep that looks fine. But I guess, technically  localhost  should be changed to  whiteeagle
[08:11] <diagon> so all I need to know is how to lower the thermal trip that's shown in the /proc/acpi stuff
[08:12] <lethalamby> astro76, I just started my PC
[08:12] <Twigman> Anyone heard of problems getting the Hardy install cd to boot? I'm being dropped into a busybox shell..
[08:12] <pawan> installed now
[08:12] <jmsp3> Could anyone tell me what's wrong with mounting a windows ntfs partition automatically with /etc/fstab?
[08:12] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: is it ok?
[08:12] <white_eagle> oh
[08:12] <white_eagle> sorry
[08:12] <white_eagle> ;)
[08:12] <FloodBot1> white_eagle: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, np :)
[08:12] <RedScare> so non-proprietary really shouldn't be giving you that sort of problem harry
[08:12] <RedScare> hang on
[08:12] <lethalamby> 1963 MB of RAM usage
[08:12] <harry_> that's my opinion aswell ;)
[08:12] <lethalamby> this is shown by free -m
[08:12] <legolasw> Anyone interested in testing VPN connection problems?
[08:13] <legolasw>  Is there any way to see VPN connection debug messages or log file?
[08:13] <RedScare> is that wlan0 harry?
[08:13] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: and can I fix those dependency problems?
[08:13] <astro76> lethalamby: how much is cached?
[08:13] <lethalamby> 1307
[08:13] <harry_> not that i changed an aweful lot, but i don't want to reinstall ;)
[08:13] <rpedro_> anybody else getting slow file copying speeds between different physical hdd's?
[08:13] <harry_> especially my mythbox
[08:13] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: http://pastebin.com/m2194be0e
[08:14] <rpedro_> compared to gutsy
[08:14] <lethalamby> and swap not used. Still almost 2 gigs of RAm used when running nothing significant :(
[08:14] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, possibly, that hosts issue may have been the cause. Give it onther try
[08:14] <knoppix> I had been here earlier asking about why ubuntu sets up partitions as sda1 sda2 and sda5. I gatered that it creates two primary partitions with an extended partition sda5 for swap that really occupies all of sda3. is that correct?
[08:14] <lethalamby> astro76, swap usage shown 0
[08:14] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: yes!
[08:14] <knoppix> sorry sda2 not 3
[08:15] <RedScare> oh hell
[08:15] <astro76> lethalamby: first off, system monitor only shows your user processes if not run as root
[08:15] <pawan> now
[08:15] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: lets hope so
[08:16] <Twigman> Anyone heard of problems getting the Hardy install cd to boot? I'm being dropped into a busybox shell.. I get a lot of messages from ata2.00 saying status: { DRDY } (and other messages)
[08:16] <pawan> i am in vista my grub is lost
[08:16] <lethalamby> astro76, Now the problem is I want to know why is so much RAM being used. I have run linux on 256 MB RAm also. If I have 2Gb it should not mean it occupies all :(
[08:16] <pawan> i have ubuntu installed
[08:16] <olskolirc> can I get the pastebin address please?
[08:16] <lethalamby> pawan: boot from CD
[08:17] <lethalamby> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:17] <pawan> then
[08:17] <lethalamby> there is a section in ubuntu docs
[08:17] <olskolirc> thanks
[08:17] <lethalamby> read that and you'll be fine
[08:17] <Boredom_inc> Wow, since a couple of days after my 8.04 update, ubntu has been running really sluggish. I was making a bug report
[08:17] <pawan> ok
[08:17] <DistroJockey> Twigman, yes, I have seen that issue brought up a few times. Maybe try the Alternate CD if you just wish to install to HDD
[08:17] <Boredom_inc> Ubuntu*
[08:18] <Twigman> DistroJockey: thanks for the reply. Will the alternate be able to boot?
[08:18] <Daniel^> just got a message about a new distribution upgrade, is that a good idea?
[08:18] <harry_> Daniel^: NO
[08:18] <Daniel^> ok :)
[08:18] <Uplink> ubuntu wont load my broadcom drivers :(
[08:18] <Twigman> I just got an error: synchronous SCSI scan failed without making any progress,
[08:18] <ikonia> Uplink: expand on that please.
[08:18] <Uplink> sure
[08:18] <DistroJockey> Twigman, not entirely sure (might be worth checking launchpad.net for the issue) but it generally works better
[08:19] <Boredom_inc> When I was making the bug report I noticed Ubuntu is not recognising my swap partition. It says utilising 0 of 0 bytes. Is this the cause of my sluggish performance (I still have 50% RAM) or is it something else. Either way how do I make Ubuntu aware of my swap partition again.
[08:19] <Uplink> <i load the ubuntu live cd and my broadcom drivers fail to load on startup>
[08:19] <lethalamby> someone help me
[08:19] <olskolirc> can someone help me with my xmms issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8848/plain/ I can't get it to execute.
[08:19] <Twigman> ok sounds good... It actually looks like it doesn't like my cdrom drive..
[08:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: it only uses swap when you need it
[08:19] <lethalamby> my ubuntu using up 2 GB of RAM
[08:19] <ikonia> Uplink: how do you know ?
[08:19] <knoppix> how does upgrading to 8.04 affect VMware if you already have that installed. I hear 8.04 has a new kernel
[08:19] <Twigman> Btw.. this is a new pc, so it may have some later hardware..
[08:19] <ikonia> knoppix: depends on the compatability
[08:19] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I know this but shouldn't it say something like 0 bytes of .... bytes used rather than 0 of 0?
[08:20] <Uplink> it tells me on the screen when loading the drivers>
[08:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: show me the exact message
[08:20] <olskolirc> can someone help me with my xmms issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8848/plain/ I can't get it to execute.  I'm on Hardy Heron
[08:20] <ikonia> olskolirc: where did you get xmms - it's not in hardy
[08:20] <knoppix> ikonia: how so?
[08:20] <lethalamby> please some one help me reduce RAM usage. I feel RAM is not being freed..:(  here is a paste of my /proc/meminfo   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8850/
[08:20] <makiavelli> apt-get :D
[08:20] <dubby> hey anyone, i just went from gutsy kubuntu to hardy ubuntu and any ways kubuntu has this control panel thing to see what drives where connected to the system and then it mounted them for me, I was wondering if any such thing exists in Ubuntu?
[08:20] <DistroJockey> Twigman, possibly choosing something like legacy mode for sata/ide in bios may get the cd to boot
[08:20] <astro76> lethalamby: your ram usage is normal, and Linux is very intelligent with memory which you should know by running low ram systems
[08:21] <jk_> i am having a very annoying problem there seems to be glitches in my ubuntu, suddenly loose all sound from the system until i logoff or reboot, and when i open the wastebin nautlius jumps to 50% and becomes non-responsive any help?
[08:21] <ikonia> osiris: I can see a few issues, but I need to know where you got it
[08:21] <astro76> lethalamby: worry about it when you start swapping
[08:21] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: It's from the System manager... "0 bytes (0.0%) of 0 bytes".
[08:21] <astro76> !memory | lethalamby
[08:21] <olskolirc> I got a copy from their web site as a tar.gz and it won't execute so I found we have xmms2 in Hardy Heron and it won't execute either ikonia
[08:21] <Uplink> <ikonia, it says "broacom 43.x.x drivers couldnt be loaded">
[08:21] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats fine
[08:21] <Twigman> DistroJockey: ok I'll look, however, the bios is pretty light on configuration..
[08:22] <DistroJockey> Twigman, *nods*
[08:22] <dubby> I have 2 hard-drives in this computer but I can only see the mount / can someone tell me how to view my other hard drive ( i do not know its device name like /dev/sdc1)
[08:22] <lethalamby> astro76, I always beleived Linux being superior to windows. But my total memory usage including swap has never gone above 1gig on windows
[08:22] <white_eagle> everyone, I am getting dependecy errors http://pastebin.com/m2194be0e\
[08:22] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Do you have any ideas then as to what could be causing the performance issue. It was fine after I first rebooted 8.04 however it seems to have got steadily worse after each reboot. I'm still using the same nVidia drivers and nothing else (that I'm aware of) has changed since I updated from 7.10 to 8.04.
[08:23] <white_eagle> can you help me??
[08:23] <astro76> lethalamby: Linux doesn't waste the RAM you paid for, it keeps things in cache and frees when needed
[08:23] <white_eagle> I am logged in as root, because the primary account had problems with sudo
[08:23] <astro76> lethalamby: please read that first link ubottu gave you to understand
[08:23] <x1250> dubby: $ sudo fdisk -l maybe helps
[08:23] <Boredom_inc> white_eagle: You really shouldn't be logged in as root.
[08:23] <amrik> Hey are there any tutorials about coding C in emacs?
[08:23] <white_eagle> I have a half working hardy, half gutsy system
[08:23] <white_eagle> Boredom_inc: I must
[08:23] <lethalamby> astro76, waiting for it to open. 2nd one opened
[08:24] <Boredom_inc> white_eagle: Have you tried to create a new account?
[08:24] <white_eagle> Boredom_inc: because I can't do anything from my primary account
[08:24] <white_eagle> Boredom_inc: will that help?
[08:24] <ikonia> Boredom_inc:1 moment, I'm on the phone
[08:24] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Thanks
[08:24] <Boredom_inc> ﻿white_eagle: Possibly. If it does then you will know the problem is to do with that users settings.
[08:24] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, did fixing the hosts file not work?
[08:25] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: I haven't tried
[08:25] <white_eagle> rebooting
[08:25] <jim_beam> how do u add a session to gdm startup
[08:25] <white_eagle> should i?
[08:25] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, yes, reboot :)
[08:25] <white_eagle> bye
[08:25] <edreamleo> Hello all
[08:25] <edreamleo> My sound doesn't work
[08:25] <lethalamby> astro76, it seems normal now :D
[08:26] <edreamleo> BTW, how can I find my system version :-)
[08:26] <jim_beam> i installled e17  using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=546746
[08:26] <x1250> edreamleo: /etc/issue
[08:26] <jim_beam> on login i cant see e17 (enlightenment)
[08:26] <oddalot> edreamleo System-> about ubuntu
[08:26] <olskolirc> can someone help me with my xmms issue? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8848/plain/ I can't get it to execute.  I'm on Hardy Heron
[08:26] <amrik> Anyone, are there any tutorials about coding C in emacs?
[08:26] <smee> can someone help me setup wireless internet access on my laptop?
[08:27] <oddalot> olskolirc i can help
[08:27] <olskolirc> thanks oddalot
[08:27] <ikonia> olskolirc: the tar file from the website is not compatible
[08:27] <lethalamby> I am not able to put my system on standby . Can anyone help please
[08:27] <olskolirc> how do I uninstall the tar file?
[08:27] <ikonia> osiris: rm it
[08:27] <olskolirc> ikonia,
[08:27] <edreamleo> I don't see About Ubuntu, I only see About Gnome
[08:27] <oddalot> olskolirc install the deb, like 2 steps
[08:27] <oddalot> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+package/xmms
[08:28] <oddalot> :D
[08:28] <astro76> edreamleo: lsb_release -a
[08:28] <olskolirc> where do I get the .deb file?
[08:28] <oddalot> ^^link i just posted
[08:28] <lethalamby> how do I register on this channel ???
[08:28] <olskolirc> i looked everywhere even for my last version oddalot
[08:28] <astro76> !register | lethalamby
[08:28] <oddalot> hmmm
[08:28] <oddalot> well it was there
[08:28] <oddalot> hmm one sec
[08:28] <lethalamby> thanks astro76
[08:29] <edreamleo> ok 7.10 gutsy
[08:29] <x1250> edreamleo: cat /etc/issue
[08:29] <Uplink> ikonia, it says "broacom 43.x.x drivers couldnt be loaded"
[08:29] <ikonia> Uplink: 1 moment
[08:29] <oddalot> i had to install xmms verstion .10
[08:29] <edreamleo> anyway, I have no sound
[08:29] <oddalot> the .12 didn't compile
[08:29] <Uplink> ok ty ikonia ^_^
[08:29] <oddalot> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/xmms/1:1.2.10+20070601-1
[08:29] <oddalot> here use that
[08:30] <oddalot> see if that .deb works, just click it, then click install package
[08:30] <kelvin911> hi i just update from 7.10 to 8.04 through ubuntu update, now my AWN dock is gone.
[08:30] <Boredom_inc> why we are all waiting for ikonia... has anybody else had problems with 8.04 where is is running quite sluggish compared to 7.10?
[08:30] <olskolirc> yeahhhhh niceeee oddalot
[08:30] <kelvin911> how to enable it back?
[08:30]  * olskolirc gives oddalot thumbs up
[08:30] <x1250> edreamleo: $ lspci, check your audio controller and search ubuntuforums.org
[08:30] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: no, the problem isn't fixed
[08:30] <kelvin911> and looks like the fonts are different too....
[08:31] <white_eagle> I am logged in as root now
[08:31] <white_eagle> because I can't get the connection to work under the account
[08:31] <oddalot> olskolirc there is a bug on mine though, the playlist doesn't minimize with the main windows of xmms
[08:31] <Boredom_inc> white_eagle: What was/is the original problem? I missed that part
[08:31] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, :(
[08:31] <white_eagle> I can't even see the network applet at the top when I am logged in as that user (whiteeagle)
[08:31] <Boredom_inc> white_eagle: Create a new account
[08:31] <edreamleo> x1250 will do, thx
[08:31] <kelvin911> and what is tracker search??  is it new in hardy?
[08:32] <olskolirc> ohhh ok
[08:32] <ikonia> white_eagle: 1.) how are you logged in as root - three is no root password 2.) your network connection should not be specific to your username
[08:32] <xxxxxxx> what is the purpose of the minimal.iso?
[08:32] <oddalot> olskolirc can you tell me if you have the same problem once you install?
[08:32] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: tell me about this swap issue - 0 ussages is a good thing
[08:32] <olskolirc> hey you know what?  If this doesn't work, I'll just use mp3blaster.  That's a cool app too
[08:32] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: small install
[08:32] <olskolirc> ok oddalot brb
[08:32] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, white_eagle had no 127.0.0.1 or 127.0.1.1 lines in /etc/hosts
[08:33] <ikonia> Uplink: broadcom drivers can't be loaded, is that message coming up in the restricted drivers tool ?
[08:33] <xxxxxxx> ikonia I am trying to get an app to work without a desktop
[08:33] <xxxxxxx> should i use the minimal?
[08:33] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: no
[08:33] <xxxxxxx> its only 9.5mb where does the os come from is it downloaded?
[08:33] <ArthurArchnix> Anyone know anything about this xserver crash when trying to play videos? I'm on Hardy, and this is a real bad bug. I have an intel GM955 card, and run metacity with compositing enabled. It happens about half the time when I click on a video file (avi, flash, so far) and it's never happened when I right-click and open. It's happened on Totem and VLC. And again, no error messages, no freezing. Immediate restart of the xserver
[08:33] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the interenet
[08:33] <xxxxxxx> ok i thought so
[08:33] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, white_eagle : And I know from experience that that breaks sudo ;)
[08:34] <xukun> hi all
[08:34] <xxxxxxx> ikonia i am trying to have the system dedicated to xbmc-linux
[08:34] <xxxxxxx> just that one app
[08:34] <ikonia> strtok: define the crash
[08:34] <xxxxxxx> I need it to boot into it and shut down from it
[08:34] <ikonia> oops
[08:34] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: define the crash pleas.e
[08:34] <Boredom_inc> Distrojockey: Has he fixed the hosts file yet then?
[08:34] <Jordan_U> xxxxxxx, Then just install the base system and install that one app
[08:34] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, I believe so
[08:34] <oddalot> Boredom_inc  HAH AH nice nick
[08:34] <xxxxxxx> so minimal.iso would be a good starting point?
[08:35] <ArthurArchnix> ikonia: I'm not sure what you mean. I click on a video. The screen briefly turns black, then I see GDM logout text, then GDM comes up asking me to login.
[08:35] <xukun> I have a new microsoft wireless keyboard, not all the keys are working. Is there a way to solve this this?
[08:35] <Uplink> ikonia, when i boot up the PC with the live cd, and its before the desktop loading
[08:35] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: ok, so X resets totally
[08:35] <Boredom_inc> Distrojockey: Then it's probably something else.... is whiteeagle account listed as a sudoer?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> xxxxxxx, Yes, if you are comfortable setting things up from a command line
[08:35] <ikonia> Uplink: ahh, what model card have you got
[08:35] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - before upgrading to Hardy, I want to make an image of my entire HDD
[08:35] <Twigman> DistroJockey: Thanks for your help, turns out this is a problem that happens with some dell computers. Bug page is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153702
[08:35] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, not sure, not got that far
[08:35] <Ace_NoOne> any advice on how best to do this - especially with regards to easy restoration in case something goes wrong?
[08:35] <bazhang> nickthorley: yeah, but only for a bit
[08:35] <ArthurArchnix> ikonia: Yeah. It's really wierd. It's basically like videos have been turned into a logout button without any prompts. But only sometimes.
[08:35] <Uplink> ikonia, im not quite sure... broamcom 4.3.X.X i think :/
[08:35] <xxxxxxx> ok jordan the only thing im not sure about are drivers
[08:35] <white_eagle> Boredom_inc: the original problem is, the upgrade to hardy was interrupted because some package wanted to overwrite some file which some other package had already installed (the upgrader was at 23%) so I had only the close button and the system demanded a restart from me, I rebooted and logged into recovery mode (as LjL told me to do) so he told me to do apt-get -f install and then dpkg --configure -a several bunch of times till it gets
[08:35] <ikonia> Uplink: thats not a model - I need the exact model
[08:36] <Squa7ch> how do I access the shared folders settings in Hardy Heron?
[08:36] <Uplink> ikonia, im on windows, how can i check
[08:36] <DistroJockey> Twigman, ahh *nods* You're welcome
[08:36] <nickthorley> bazhang: its ok am at work now so cant try anything on laptop - had a play getting wireless working last night and no luck
[08:36] <white_eagle> I can see I have a half hardy system and a half gutsy system
[08:36] <ikonia> Uplink: click on the network card properties
[08:36] <xxxxxxx> when i installed heron I had to click on hardware drivers to find the ati driver for the amd 780g
[08:36] <robmillion> can someone please tell me why I cannot download Ubuntu 8.04 successfully
[08:36] <robmillion> pls pm me
[08:36] <ikonia> Uplink: use device manager
[08:36] <white_eagle> i don't know the exact command, but I had 2 kernels installed
[08:36] <ikonia> robmillion: what is the error
[08:36] <white_eagle> as I could se
[08:36] <Uplink> oh ok
[08:36] <xxxxxxx> is it possible to install the driver from the command line?
[08:36] <surplusxmas> I'm attempting to install Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE4 Remix) on a 3.00GHz Pentium D, 1GB RAM, 300GB SATA with the alternative install CD.  When I reach the installation step called "Select and install software", it hangs for a while at 6% with the message "Please wait...", eventually goes through the steps, but reaches the end with an error that says the specific installation step ("Select and install software") failed.  It then allows m
[08:36] <surplusxmas>  (quicker this time).  Is this a common problem?  Any suggestions?
[08:36] <bazhang> nickthorley: will be aroudn later if you want to try again ;]
[08:36] <xxxxxxx> can i check to find out which driver i have installed?
[08:36] <Twigman> Btw.. there is a workaround, put sata into 'raid' mode instead of ide mode.. sounds dangerous... works though!
[08:36] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: use the desktop cd, and disable X11
[08:36] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, personally, I would back up your data and do a nice clean install
[08:36] <Twigman> I'll just make sure windows still boots first though ;)
[08:37] <nickthorley> bazhang: i cant tonight - possibly tomorrow night
[08:37] <ikonia> Twigman: what is "raid mode"
[08:37] <Twigman> See yas...
[08:37] <ikonia> Twigman: if you mean fakeraid, I strongly advise agaisnt it
[08:37] <x1250> robmillion: how can we know? try another mirror
[08:37] <DistroJockey> Twigman, ahh, yeah, sorta what I was getting at with the legacy stuff
[08:37] <nickthorley> bazhang: i am wondering whether to try ndis wrapper instead
[08:37] <xxxxxxx> ikonia what about all the stuff in the desktop that I don't need?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> xxxxxxx, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ( if you have an ATI card )
[08:37] <Twigman> ikonia: well.. it sounds like the drives should be joined..
[08:37] <bazhang> nickthorley: well its not like we ever leave--see you then ;]
[08:37] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: what about it ?
[08:37] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: just disable it
[08:37] <Uplink> ikonia, it just tells me Broadcom 802.11 a/b/g WLAN
[08:37] <xxxxxxx> also is x11 the same as x or xorg?
[08:37] <Squa7ch> how do I access the shared folder settings in Ubuntu 8.04?  In 7.10 it was I think System>Administration>Shared Folders, was it not?
[08:37] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: yes
[08:37] <Twigman> ikonia: unfortunately there's no disabled...
[08:37] <xxxxxxx> I think xbmc linux needs an x server
[08:37] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: use the desktop cd
[08:38] <jk_> !backup
[08:38] <kelvin911> hello?
[08:38] <Jordan_U> xxxxxxx, It does
[08:38] <ikonia> Twigman: where are you trying to set this
[08:38] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: no, thats not possible, I am capped I cant download the install cd from one side, and my cd-rom doesn't work from the other side
[08:38] <Twigman> This is in the bios of a dell vostro 200
[08:38] <ikonia> Twigman: contact your bios vendor then
[08:38] <xxxxxxx> then if it does won't disabling x11 prevent me from installing xbmc?
[08:38] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: so I'm stuck
[08:38] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: don't disable X then
[08:38] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, you can install without burning
[08:38] <Uplink> ikonia, in on details [service] and tells me BCM43XX
[08:38] <DistroJockey> !install | white_eagle
[08:38] <xukun> is there a package I need to install for the keyboard to work well? I have microsoft wireless laser keyboard 5000
[08:38] <ikonia> Uplink: ok, I'm looking
[08:39] <Twigman> ikonia:  without that setting, linux doesn't see the cdrom drive... but I'll check for a bios update, this machine just arrived today from dell so I doubt there will be an update yet..
[08:39] <nickthorley> bazhang: i found this that looks like it may be worth a try http://blog.gunbladeiv.com/
[08:39] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, checkout that last link
[08:39] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: USB install?
[08:39] <ikonia> Twigman: contact your vendor - nothing can be done to fix your bios in linux
[08:39] <xxxxxxx> I thought i would use the minimal.iso and install the dependencies and x-server
[08:39] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: in that case I would need to buy a new usb stick
[08:39] <kelvin911> i just install new ubuntu, and all the applet in awn are gone ?
[08:39] <robmillion> there is no particular error
[08:39] <white_eagle> oh
[08:39] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: from what your saying, your not going to find it easy due to your lack of experience
[08:39] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, yeah, should be able to install from an iso on a usb drive
[08:39] <Twigman> *nod* understood..... there are reports of the machine working correctly with that RAID setting though..
[08:39] <bazhang> nickthorley: will bookmark and check out in a bit; I have to head out now--hope to see you soon ;]
[08:39] <robmillion> the download finishes after 450 odd MB
[08:39] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: use the desktop cd (it's a 300 meg install-ish)
[08:39] <ere4si> !bot
[08:40] <nickthorley> bazhang: will be here in approx 5 hours if you want to chat but wont have laptop with me - thanks
[08:40] <DistroJockey> heyya ere4si :)
[08:40] <white_eagle> DistroJockey: but that last link focuses on windows as the preinstalled system
[08:40] <xxxxxxx> ikonia how does the desktop install cd differ from the main cd or is it the same?
[08:40] <ere4si> hey! DistroJockey
[08:40] <ikonia> white_eagle: mount the iso
[08:40] <robmillion> can anyone help?
[08:40] <white_eagle> I am ****ing stuck
[08:40] <white_eagle> :(
[08:40] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the desk is the iso
[08:40] <ikonia> white_eagle: there is no need for bad language
[08:40] <ikonia> white_eagle: you've been here enough to know that
[08:41] <ikonia> white_eagle: "I'm stuck" would have done
[08:41] <robmillion> Linux would be great - if you didn't need a degree in computer engineering to use it.
[08:41] <white_eagle> ikonia: I'm sorry
[08:41] <frandavid100> hi guys
[08:41] <Twigman> Haha... windows will not boot with that setting, this is not looking good.. I'll just install under windows for the time being *sigh*
[08:41] <robmillion> can't even download the damn thing
[08:41] <x1250> robmillion: you don't
[08:41] <x1250> :P
[08:41] <ere4si> robmillion: are you short of hard disk space?
[08:41] <robmillion> nope
[08:41] <white_eagle> ikonia: I'm on the edge of my nerves
[08:41] <robmillion> all is fine
[08:41] <Uplink> ikonia, btw. im on HP Pavilion dv5000 series
[08:41] <x1250> robmillion: did you try another mirror?
[08:41] <ikonia> Uplink: ok, that helps
[08:41] <robmillion> yes
[08:41] <robmillion> different mirrors
[08:41] <x1250> robmillion: $ df -h ?
[08:41] <robmillion> ????
[08:41] <robmillion> I'm on windows
[08:41] <kelvin911> how come the fonts are so funny after update to hardy??
[08:41] <FloodBot1> robmillion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <ikonia> robmillion: what happens when you download ?
[08:41] <kelvin911> looks different?
[08:42] <x1250> robmillion: you have problems downloading ubuntu from windows?
[08:42] <white_eagle> !minimal
[08:42] <frandavid100> quick question: how can I found out how to write the pound sign in a Spanish keyboard?
[08:42] <robmillion> the MD5 checksum is incorrect
[08:42] <robmillion> 3 times
[08:42] <napnaop> Hi all
[08:42] <ikonia> white_eagle: what good is the minimal cd to you ?
[08:42] <robmillion> different mirrors
[08:42] <white_eagle> ikonia: for installing from usb
[08:42] <ikonia> white_eagle: you don't need that
[08:42] <white_eagle> what do I need
[08:42] <ikonia> white_eagle: did you read the links that where given to you ?
[08:43] <xxxxxxx> whiteeagle how big is your usb drive? is it flash?
[08:43] <white_eagle> I have a 512MB usb stick
[08:43] <white_eagle> yes
[08:43] <robmillion> the download seems to go fine although it only gets 450Mb of a 695Mb file
[08:43] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Do you have any idea as to why 8.04 is running so badly?
[08:43] <white_eagle> ikonia: yes, I read the links
[08:43] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: whats running bad about it (can you give more detali)
[08:43] <white_eagle> ikonia: but that last link focuses on windows
[08:43] <DistroJockey> !install | white_eagle, try the first link
[08:43] <vemon> robmillion, so downloading a file is somthing which need a cs-degree? :)
[08:44] <x1250> robmillion: are you very sure you have more than 450MB free on your disk?
[08:44] <ikonia> robmillion: have you tried a torrent ?
[08:44] <xxxxxxx> whiteeagle i was able to boot hardy heron from usb but i used the full distro cd
[08:44] <xxxxxxx> 1gig drive
[08:44] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: he has not read the links
[08:44] <white_eagle> I can't use a cd
[08:44] <ikonia> white_eagle: thats a CD
[08:44] <ikonia> white_eagle: so why are you looking at the minimal cd ?
[08:44] <x1250> robmillion: I downloaded from here just a moments ago, it works: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:44] <DistroJockey> ikonia, I told to look at last link first (my bad)
[08:44] <white_eagle> ikonia: can't I boot the minimal cd from a flash drive?
[08:44] <ikonia> DistroJockey: not at all
[08:44] <ikonia> white_eagle: "it's a CD"
[08:44] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Everything is slow and unresponsive. Even typing this message the text appears on screen in jolts. It takes a while to swap windows, scroll, open windows. Firefox is particularly affected.
[08:45] <lesshaste> Hi
[08:45] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: talk to me about a.) your video card b.) your ram
[08:45] <ferronica> at what speed should i burn ubuntu 8.04 iso image ?
[08:45] <lesshaste> I can't start X at all in hardy. I get this is .xsession-errors xmodmap:  unable to open display ':1'
[08:45] <magnetron> ferronica: 4x is usually good
[08:45] <lesshaste> http://pastebin.com/f2bc6aef7 for the whole thing
[08:46] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, how long has it been installed?
[08:46] <ikonia> ferronica: slow as possible
[08:46] <ferronica> magnetron: 1X
[08:46] <jk_> if i wanted to reinstall for whatever reason, can i save my settings and transfer it when the resintall was done?
[08:46] <ikonia> jk_: thats quite tricky
[08:46] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: RAM usage is 50% still ~300MiB available and I'm using the same nVidia drivers as 7.10. I have a backup of my xorg.conf from 7.10 and they are identical. I installed the RC 1 day before the official release.
[08:46] <bullgard5> What does '=m' mean in /boot/config-2.6.22-14-generic?
[08:46] <DistroJockey> Boredom_inc, I seem to recall some of my installs were slow for a little while (maybe it's indexing?)
[08:47] <ferronica> magnetron:  ikoniz: getting integrity check fail two times on max
[08:47] <x1250> jk_: settings like what, from where? /home/user ?
[08:47] <xxxxxxx> ikonia, lets say I went the mini.iso route is it possible to find out what driver I have installed now and find that exact same driver for my onboard amd 780g/ati radeon 3200?
[08:47] <ikonia> bullgard5: where ?
[08:47] <tau> hi, can someone please give me some advice on how to move the MFT out of the free space at the end of an NTFS partition?  (I tried asking this on the ##windows channel but nobody will respond :( )
[08:47] <Matic`Makovec> Hello there. I remember Gutsy Gibbon having an awesome application for handing .bin files (it practically mounted it, but it was great). Now after I upgraded to Hardy I don't have it anymore and so I'm woundering what would that kind of thing be called?
[08:47] <Uplink> ikonia, what should i do?
[08:47] <magnetron> ferronica: 2x or 4x is as slow as you would ever need to go
[08:47] <white_eagle> ikonia: hey, what about making a new partition and installing ubuntu hardy on it, then from hardy wiping this partition? will that work?
[08:47] <bullgard5> ikonia: at many places there, at least 10 different ones.
[08:47] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: it is possible, but you'll find it VERY long winded
[08:47] <ArthurArchnix> Darn. Stupid bug.
[08:47] <arooni_> i'm trying to configure my ddwrt enabled router to have give 2 mac addresses a static lease (so they'll always have the same IP address).  this is great!  but it asks me for a host name ..... i dont know what to do here.
[08:47] <ikonia> bullgard5: can you re-paste the line, I didn't see =m in any of the line you posted
[08:48] <axion> tau MFT ?
[08:48] <ikonia> white_eagle: that up to you
[08:48] <ferronica> magnetron:  but i did 1X :(
[08:48] <jk_> thinking about it i wasted my compiz settings, just found way to save that x1250
[08:48] <tau> axion: Master File Table
[08:48] <ikonia> Uplink: look in /var/log/messages to see why it couldn't load the driver
[08:48] <magnetron> ferronica: check the downloaded iso with md5
[08:48] <tarelerulz> have any of you try out the new version of Empathy that can voice with gtalk windows users ?
[08:48] <white_eagle> ikonia: i'm talking about this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[08:48] <ikonia> arooni_: we don't support your router
[08:48] <ferronica> magnetron:  its okay
[08:48] <frandavid100> I'm trying to type the pound sign
[08:48] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: The strange thing is it ran fine the first time I booted into 8.04, maybe even marginally faster than 7.10, at least firefox was. But on each reboot things seem to be getting slower. I don't know if this is just coincidence, but something isn't right
[08:48] <kelvin911> hello why after installing hardy the arial fonts are so ugly
[08:48] <arooni_> ikonia, damn :(
[08:48] <frandavid100> ﻿U+00A3 POUND SIGN
[08:48] <ikonia> white_eagle: and as I said "thats up to you"
[08:48] <ferronica> magnetron:  all matching
[08:48] <axion> tau: noboby's answering you because that's a stupid question
[08:48] <kelvin911> specially when the characters are bold
[08:49] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: how much ram do you have, also is the "tracker" process still running
[08:49] <white_eagle> ikonia: OK
[08:49] <magnetron> ferronica: how long did it take to burn it at 1X speed?
[08:49] <kelvin911> anyone update their ubuntu to 8.04 ?
[08:49] <tau> axion: is it, and how am I supposed to install ubuntu when I can only shrink the NTFS volume by 7MB?  yow
[08:49] <magnetron> kelvin911: yes, anyone did
[08:49] <axion> it's as asking how to move all the inode tables scattered throughout the ext2/3fs to the beginngin
[08:49] <jk_> my ubuntu has become unstable, not sure why. i open wastebin and it hangs, nautilus fails and cliking icons takes forever to launch apps
[08:49] <ferronica> magnetron:  burning right now
[08:49] <kelvin911> why the fonts are different?
[08:49] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: 600 MiB of RAM (yes a very strange quantity). The tracker is idle.
[08:49] <ferronica> magnetron:  at 1X
[08:49] <x1250> jk_: no settings or config files in ~/ would be erased or modified after reinstalling/upgrading
[08:50] <tarelerulz> ﻿kelvin911  I ugraded to Ubuntu 8.04
[08:50] <magnetron> ferronica: how long did it take to burn it at 1X? when it failed?
[08:50] <x1250> jk_: unless a new version needs to modify it
[08:50] <axion> jk_, resizentfs ?
[08:50] <tau> axion: may I ask how you installed ubuntu?
[08:50] <kelvin911> i use auto update to ungrade it
[08:50] <kelvin911> ugrade
[08:50] <axion> oops sorry jk_
[08:50] <lethalamby> clear
[08:50] <kelvin911> upgrade*
[08:50] <lethalamby> sorry
[08:50] <lethalamby> wrong place
[08:50] <axion> tau, empty drive..
[08:50] <tau> axion: not all of us have that luxury :(
[08:50] <kelvin911> it tooks me hour and half to download about 1GB of like 2000 files
[08:50] <bullgard5> ikonia: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/208551/
[08:50] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Any ideas, it seems pretty strange to me.
[08:50] <ferronica> magnetron:  when i check integrity using brasero
[08:51] <tarelerulz> ﻿kelvin911, I download the beta cd and did fresh install.
[08:51] <kelvin911> why it is so big?
[08:51] <napnaop> I'm under Hardy with Firefox 3 and java plugin doesn't work... How can I enable it ? I've downloaded java-6-sun-1.6.0.06 and ia32-java6-sun-1.6.0.06 but applet on firefox doesn't appear and about:plugins doesn't show java...How can I do please ?
[08:51] <kelvin911> i didnt do fresh install
[08:51] <axion> tau download the cd and brun it
[08:51] <axion> burn
[08:51] <kelvin911> i just click the upgrade button in auto update
[08:51] <Twigman> Thanks for the help all... Just fyi - get anyone who has a dell vostro that wont boot to look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153702
[08:51] <white_eagle> !unetbootin
[08:51] <kelvin911> and it tooks me like 2 hours to download and install hardy
[08:51] <tau> axion: already done, but like I said I can't install it so long as the MFT is in the way
[08:52] <x1250> napnaop: install sun-java5-plugin and sun-java6-plugin
[08:52] <ferronica> magnetron:  at the time of installation check cd for error , when i do 67 file errors
[08:52] <Twigman> Make sure they follow the all-generic-ide method of booting..
[08:52] <tau> damn microsoft!
[08:52] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: is the tracker process running ?
[08:52] <kelvin911> now the fonts are ugly
[08:52] <ikonia> bullgard5: they are modules
[08:52] <ferronica> magnetron:  i am using CD-RW
[08:52] <kelvin911> can someone help me?
[08:52] <magnetron> ferronica: use a CD-R
[08:52] <ferronica> magnetron:  moserbaer CD-RW
[08:52] <ferronica> magnetron: i did same error :(
[08:52] <axion> tau get a copy of partition magic or something
[08:52] <tarelerulz> ﻿kelvin911 , a fresh is  very good sometimes.  No configure that conflik.
[08:52] <xxxxxxx> hey thanks ikonia for the advice I'm going to go tinker with it and see what I can do.
[08:52] <magnetron> ferronica: how long did it take to burn it at 1X? when it failed?
[08:53] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: It's listed in System Manager but when I hover above it is says "Idle"
[08:53] <white_eagle> ok, bye
[08:53] <white_eagle> ikonia: thanks very much
[08:53] <white_eagle> and everyone else who helped
[08:53] <ferronica> magnetron: burning it right now at 1X
[08:53] <DistroJockey> white_eagle, good luck
[08:53] <axion> tau try defragmenting the drive under windows
[08:53] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: try disabling it
[08:53] <magnetron> ferronica: you said it failed when you burned it at 1X
[08:53] <napnaop> x1250 really ? I think I've downloaded it ...
[08:53] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I appriciate it's idle, but it can cause issues
[08:53] <tau> axion: yes, I have tried with numeroes different programs, but none of them will move the MFT!
[08:53] <ferronica> magnetron: no at max it say
[08:54] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what video card driver does x.org say your currently using
[08:54] <tau> axion: it's very frustrating
[08:54] <axion> well g\tau do you have a recent system ?
[08:54] <AfroRowan> hey people
[08:54] <axion> tau no older then 6 years ?
[08:54] <ferronica> magnetron:accept it
[08:54] <AfroRowan> i wanna expand my memory on hda3 (my ext3 partition)
[08:54] <tau> axion: it's not actually my system, I'm helping a friend - he is running XP SP2, with a single core pentium, I think it's like 2.6Ghz or something
[08:54] <AfroRowan> when i use  gparted
[08:55] <tarelerulz> ﻿tau, maybe  it is the files itself .  I would download it again and see if that might help. I would do via torrent they make sure it don't get messed up
[08:55] <AfroRowan> i cant do anything
 ferronica: 2x or 4x is as slow as you would ever need to go  <ferronica> magnetron:  but i did 1X :(
[08:55] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, you will need to do it from a live CD
[08:55] <axion> ok tau get an external usb-drive and install it on there..
[08:55] <AfroRowan> okay
[08:55] <lesshaste> how do I move from Xgl to normal X?
[08:55] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Closing the tracker seems to have sped things up a bit. Still not running as fast as it was when I first reboot. What does the tracker do anyway?
[08:55] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, can't change mounted partitions
[08:55] <ferronica> magnetron: mistyped sorry
[08:56] <AfroRowan> then i know enough but one last thing, shall i lose any files ?
[08:56] <axion> tau I ran ubuntu on a 4GB usb-stick for a whole month while on vacation
[08:56] <ferronica> magnetron: accept the file that i sent you
[08:56] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, shouldn't but a backup is very much advised
[08:56] <magnetron> ferronica: i did. it says you cancelled
[08:56] <AfroRowan> okay
[08:56] <AfroRowan> thx !
[08:56] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, you're welcome
[08:56] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: By when I first reboot I mean when I first installed 8.04
[08:56] <tau> axion: I will run those suggestions past him, but I think he wants to use his existing drive
[08:56] <AfroRowan> ;)
[08:56] <tau> axion: thanks anyway
[08:57] <axion> tau are there more hdd's in the system ?
[08:57] <ferronica> magnetron: again i sent you
[08:57] <tau> axion: nope, well there is an external, but it is full
[08:57] <magnetron> ferronica: i accepted it
[08:57] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: xorg.conf says Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]"... It's old but it ran in 7.10 and had no problem
[08:58] <magnetron> ferronica: use tinypic or similar
[08:58] <AfroRowan> hey im back
[08:58] <sajt> Hello!
[08:58] <axion> usb sticks have become dirt cheap and fast..
[08:58] <ferronica> magnetron: ok
[08:58] <AfroRowan> my update-manager just came up
[08:58] <AfroRowan> and it says to upgrade to 8.04 lts...
[08:58] <AfroRowan> is it safe ?
[08:58] <sajt> My sound is not working after the upgrade to hardy
[08:58] <axion> when installing on a usb stick make sure the stick is in the first port of the usb-bus.. so it is detected as the first device
[08:58] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, that's debatable ;)
[08:59] <x1250> AfroRowan: it can be, it can be not...
[08:59] <sajt> Where can I find information about it?
[08:59] <DistroJockey> hehe
[08:59] <AfroRowan> whats debatable xD
[08:59] <ferronica> magnetron: http://i31.tinypic.com/2por71y.png
[08:59] <lesshaste> how do I move from Xgl to normal X?
[08:59] <tau> axion: okay, I don't know if he's interested in that (no money to spend) but I'll mention it
[08:59] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, if it's working, may be better to leave it alone.
[08:59] <pepe_swash> hello. How do i make heron to recognize an ich9r raid array?
[08:59] <kelvin911> which file is the repos list?
[08:59] <AfroRowan> ok, thx again ;)
[09:00] <olskolirc> that link won't install for me oomph
[09:00] <olskolirc> thanks anyway
[09:00] <magnetron> ferronica: so you are burning the disc at 4x ?
[09:00] <olskolirc> well im exhuasted
[09:00] <napnaop> x1250, then, I've downloaded java 5 and after ?
[09:00] <olskolirc> thank you all
[09:00] <DistroJockey> AfroRowan, np. Do a good backup and go from there I guess :)
[09:00] <olskolirc> gn :-)
[09:00] <AfroRowan> okay :)
[09:00] <ferronica> magnetron: i did 1X but it took it at 4x
[09:00] <AfroRowan> cu later maybe !:)
[09:00] <Flannel> kelvin911: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <DistroJockey> later
[09:00] <CRASH69> I want to install 4 PCs, how can I do so I dont download 4 times the updates?
[09:01] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Any more ideas?
[09:01] <magnetron> ferronica: a lot of ppl had trouble using CD-RWs for the ubuntu CD. you should use a CD-R and a low speed as 2x or 4x
[09:01] <x1250> AfroRowan: I would upgrade, but expecting some problems. I didn't have any tho, maybe my "only official repos" policy does work.
[09:01] <Flannel> CRASH69: apt-proxy is the easiest long-term solution
[09:01] <ferronica> magnetron: i tried CD-R at max i got error too
[09:01] <axion> tau try setting the virtual memory on drive c to 0, then try.. ( don't forget to set virtual memory back to auto or whatever was used beforehand
[09:01] <CRASH69> thx Flannel, googling
[09:01] <kaoticsnow> quick questios whats the default password for myslq on a fresh Ubuntu Server install?
[09:01] <yayasan> join
[09:02] <bleedingmoon> when i wanna install ubuntu i get an IO error
[09:02] <bleedingmoon> :|
[09:02] <magnetron> ferronica: do you understand what i tell you?
[09:02] <x1250> IO errors are evil
[09:02] <x1250> check your disk
[09:02] <magnetron> ferronica: USE A CD-R ON A SLOW SPEED
[09:02] <ferronica> magnetron: burn CD-R at low speed
[09:02] <IntangibleLiquid> so, suppose I plug the projector cable to the laptop, what's next?
[09:02] <peterretief> ubuntu only installs for worthy causes
[09:02] <ferronica> magnetron: at 4X
[09:02] <tau> axion: ok, I'll mention that too, but I'm pretty sure he already did that - we've read a bunch of different things from different sites but nothing seems to help :(
[09:03] <bullgard5> bleedingmoon: "when i wanna install ubuntu i get an IO error" is no exact description.
[09:03] <magnetron> ferronica: do NOT use CD-R on full speed. got it?
[09:03] <bleedingmoon> well
[09:03] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: you set it yourself
[09:03] <ferronica> magnetron: ok i will burn it at 4X
[09:03] <bleedingmoon> its in the first sector of my hd i think
[09:03] <axion> tau move data from usb-drive to internal drive and then isntall ubuntu on usb-drvie..
[09:03] <bleedingmoon> as far as i remember
[09:03] <IntangibleLiquid> ferronica: magnetron is right, you don't want to destroy the cd at 52x
[09:03] <axion> drive
[09:03] <ferronica> magnetron: again if i got error then ?
[09:03] <Boredom_inc> Is 8.04 running slower than 7.10 for anyone else?
[09:03] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: how? I cant log in "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[09:03] <ikonia> ferronica: get an error first !
[09:04] <ferronica> magnetron: ok
[09:04] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: did you not set a password when you installed mysql-server ?
[09:04] <pepe_swash> boredom_inc: nope faster
[09:04] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: I chose the LAMP option when installing the OS
[09:04] <tobe002> hi
[09:04] <Boredom_inc> oh, mine was faster for the first day. But each time I reboot it gets slower.
[09:04] <ferronica> magnetron: are you here for 1 hour
[09:04] <tau> axion: not enough room to do that either, it seems he's just gonna have to back up and reformat, what a pain..  so much for installing ubuntu being easy
[09:04] <bullgard5> Boredom_inc: Not for me. Rather the opposite.
[09:04] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: It never asked for onw
[09:04] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what video card are you using and what driver does X11 say your curently using
[09:04] <pepe_swash> hello. How do i make heron to recognize an ich9r raid array?
[09:04] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: just use -p then
[09:04] <magnetron> ferronica: no.
[09:05] <axion> tau I think you just need to free up space on the ntfs sytem
[09:05] <ikonia> pepe_swash: fake raid has terrible support under linux
[09:05] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]" is what the xorg.conf says. Which is correct but is there somewhere else I should check?
[09:05] <ferronica> magnetron: ok at 1X image burned successfully
[09:05] <tau> axion: yup
[09:05] <axion> if there is no free-space you cannot shrink ntfs filessytem
[09:05] <magnetron> ferronica: if you get any more problem, either ask a friend to burn the CD or order one from ShipIt.
[09:05] <axion> your problem is not mft rather free space on c
[09:05] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what does the line "Driver "seomthine" say under Video device
[09:05] <x1250> bleedingmoon: you can run fsck on the disk from the live-cd
[09:05] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: still "Access denied"
[09:05] <billy12> y did the upgrade to ubuntu 8.04 server remove ntp?
[09:06] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: show me the error line
[09:06] <tau> axion: there is about 15GB of free space, but there are unmovable files at the end of the drive prefenting gparted shrinking the partition
[09:06] <pepe_swash> ikonia: looks like, but i have to try and sak. Whatever comes out of it.
[09:06] <nocturn> How can I get the java-plugin to work on a 64-bit machine (Ubuntu Hardy)
[09:06] <bleedingmoon> x1250, what is fsck?
[09:06] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone familiar with Axioo laptops? are they good?
[09:06] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[09:06] <x1250> bleedingmoon: $ man fsck
[09:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm using the official nVidia drivers I think. My xorg.conf is identical to what it was in 7.04. But I'll take a look
[09:06] <ikonia> pepe_swash: it's a terrible technoloyg
[09:06] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: your not using -p
[09:06] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: mysql -u root -p
[09:06] <bleedingmoon> well nvm
[09:06] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: show me the "Driver" line
[09:06] <axion> ..so free-up 6gb on the external drive by copying to the internal drive.. and install on the external drive..
[09:06] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, if you are installing, you will need the Alternate CD
[09:06] <ferronica> magnetron: http://i31.tinypic.com/2q175us.png
[09:07] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: so then it asks for a password and I've tried the password I set up on the box but I still get access denied
[09:07] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: there is no password
[09:07] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Driver		"nvidia"
[09:07] <magnetron> ferronica: good luck
[09:07] <ferronica> magnetron: now doing integrity check
[09:07] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, so if you do an "lsmod" do you see the nvidia driver loaded ?
[09:07] <tau> axion: I thought you couldn't boot to a partition on an external drive?
[09:08] <axion> of course you can, that was in the middle-ages
[09:08] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes it is listed.
[09:08] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: hey. thanks again. i got an advice from you yesterday already and as you can imagine, that changed nothing.
[09:08] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: set the password with "mysqladmin
[09:08] <tau> axion: ok, that might work!  I'll run it past him.. thanks
[09:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: for arguments sake, do a glxgears -info just to see if glx is loaded
[09:08] <Boredom_inc> ﻿ikonia: When I boot I get the nVidia splash is displayed. Don't know whether that indicates it is working or not.
[09:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yeah, thats a pretty good clue
[09:08] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, ahh, sorry. Find it hard to remember sometimes (nothing personal) :)
[09:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah it displays the gears.
[09:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just let me ponder
[09:09] <axion> tau make a 100mb partition on the internal drive and mount it as /boot just to be on the safe side
[09:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries. Thanks for the help so far.
[09:09] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, but yeah, as ikonia said, better off making a software raid during the install
[09:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can we do a little test pleas.e
[09:10] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Of course.
[09:10] <x1250> bleedingmoon: something like $ sudo fsck -y /dev/hda1, where -y attempts to fix errors without asking
[09:10] <axion> other whise make sure ubunut install grub on (hd1) in stead of (hd0)
[09:10] <arooni__> help!  i have my time set to auto update based on time servers... and its set up for vancouver time zone.... but it still shows the time as 5:03PM even though its 1:05AM....   ideas?
[09:10] <tau> axion: the most he can shrink the volume is 7MB !
[09:10] <ferronica> magnetron: http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:10] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: of course. no problem. problem is that i have a windows install on that array, cannot trash it. in fact, i' need to dual boot on it. Looks like i'm doomed.
[09:10] <bleedingmoon> nah i just dont feel like messing around with it
[09:10] <smallfoot-> start.ubuntu.com uses a google that goes to .co.uk
[09:11] <smallfoot-> i dont like
[09:11] <axion> don't froget to set the bios to boot off of usb  before trying of internal hdd
[09:11] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, ahh, that's not something I have tried (or wish too) ;)
[09:11] <DistroJockey> have not^
[09:11] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can you close all your applications except for irc and the desktop
[09:11] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: eg: nothing "running" other than the ssytem
[09:11] <tau> axion: ok
[09:12] <ferronica_> http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: (fyi, this is not conclusive, just to give me a little more info)
[09:12] <ferronica_> magnetron: http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:12] <axion> tau when ubuntu gives you the summary of what it's about to do ( just before installing ) you can change (hd0) to (hd1) in the grub settings..
[09:12] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Do you want me to close unused processes. Or just shut the windows.
[09:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: nah, as though it has just booted up
[09:12] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: i have a slight masochist tendency , i guess. I always get in deepest troubles. Do you think dmraid could do the trick?
[09:12] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, only way I can think is to stick in another drive for Ubuntu and use Windows bootloader to boot it
[09:12] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: I'll have to look into this further, guess I really dont know waht I'm doing yet, time for more reading
[09:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: eg: booted up and logged into irc
[09:13] <ikonia> (roughly)
[09:13] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: man mysqladmin
[09:13] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, might, not really played with raid much. Been planning too. (need more time :()
[09:13] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: yep already reading
[09:13] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: mysqladmin -u root password 'newpassword'
[09:13] <dubby> !info openslp
[09:14] <smallfoot-> !info openslp
[09:14] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Did you actually want me to reboot to be sure? I closed everything (plus the tracker is still closed from earlier).
[09:14] <dubby> !help
[09:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: nah thats fine
[09:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: this is just a rough test
[09:14] <hyde> hello
[09:14] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: Still giving me errors
[09:14] <dubby> !openslp
[09:14] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: what is the error
[09:14] <hyde> my computer restart by it self
[09:14] <pepe_swash> Distrojockey: np. thanks for trying. :) rebooting to see what dmraid will tell me. :s
[09:15] <hyde> when i'm using ubuntu
[09:15] <hyde> what should i do
[09:15] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, best of luck
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: root@ZappBrannigan:/var/www# mysqladmin -u root password testpass
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[09:15] <FloodBot1> kaoticsnow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries, what's next?
[09:16] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: ty.  see you.
[09:16] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, np, later
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: open an xterm
[09:16] <x1250> kaoticsnow: thats -ptestpass
[09:16] <x1250> IIRC
[09:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Done
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: open "top"
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: run top sorry
[09:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah I realised what you meant :P
[09:16] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: is mysql actually running
[09:17] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: does ps -ef | grep mysql show it running
[09:17] <axion> anybody know how to get a : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 (rev 91) to work ?
[09:17] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: CPU total usage is about 19%... which is one of the reasons I was so confused.
[09:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: leave it for a minute or two, you should see it settle down, and from what your saying have pretty low usage
[09:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: give it a minute and confirm it's "ticking over"
[09:17] <kaoticsnow> ikonia:  /usr/sbin/mysqld is running
[09:18] <x1250> kaoticsnow: try mysqladmin -u root -ptestpass
[09:18] <x1250> with now space between -p and the password
[09:18] <x1250> no space I mean
[09:18] <kaoticsnow> with no space?
[09:18] <kaoticsnow> kk
[09:18] <dubby> hey anyone have any luck with fwbuilder?
[09:18] <ArthurArchnix> If I install a command line system, it should probably install the software needed to run my ethernet card right?
[09:18] <ikonia> dubby: many times
[09:18] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: no
[09:19] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: restricted driver manager would not run
[09:19] <dubby> ikonia : ok i wish to block port 85 from being able to be used by anything but local user..
[09:19] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: the restricted drivers are also only available int he desktop install
[09:19] <dubby> using eth0
[09:19] <ikonia> dubby: andy ?
[09:19] <ikonia> and
[09:20] <DistroJockey> ikonia, ArthurArchnix : what about server based installs, sure they install network drivers
[09:20] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: xorg is using about 5-10% ... IRC is using about 0.7-5% and screen saver process and top are using about 0.7%
[09:20]  * goto1 http://rapidshare.com/files/111454070/Nuke.rar.html <---- download Nukes ( Badwidth killers ) :)
[09:20] <DistroJockey> surely^
[09:20] <ikonia> DistroJockey: not restricted drivers - no
[09:20] <dubby> ikonia: I try make any sort of firewall and it does not wish to install nor am i able to obtain the current firewall settings using builder, i can through using iptables commands
[09:20] <tau> axion: thanks for your help.. cya
[09:20] <cctv> Hi, I could use some help. Actually a lot of help...
[09:20] <ikonia> dubby: sounds like your using fwbuilder wrong
[09:20] <goto1> http://rapidshare.com/files/111454070/Nuke.rar.html <---- download Nukes ( Badwidth killers ) :)
[09:20] <cctv> Need help setting up my disks in raid, and installing some software, anyone want to take a stab at it?
[09:21] <kaoticsnow> this is getting frusterating, it just spits out the documentation for mysqladmin
[09:21] <shadowxp> Is there a way to specify which site apt-get uses?
[09:21] <axion> no problem tau
[09:21] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, that seems good, now I want you to open firefox, and you should see it appear in the list - look at a.) how quickly it spikes to 100% cpu, and look how long it stays there, also watch the other processes around it while thats going on
[09:21] <ikonia> ccvt is this a fakeraid setup ?
[09:21] <DistroJockey> ikonia, that's fair enough (guess I don't use restricted network cards)
[09:21] <ikonia> shadowxp: yes the sources.list file /etc/apt
[09:22] <ikonia> DistroJockey: server = not meant for home hardware
[09:22] <realityiswhere`> shadowxp, go into system, administration, software sources, then click the "download from", same thing ikonia just said but a GUI way.
[09:22] <BadManiac> My board supports raid0 in hardware, but linux doesn't seem to like it
[09:22] <ikonia> DistroJockey: hence no nvidia drivers, boradcom onboard cards etc etc
[09:22] <shadowxp> okay
[09:22] <shadowxp> thanks
[09:22] <ikonia> BadManiac: thats fakeraid
[09:22] <BadManiac> the alt installer CD still detects to separate disks, and then errors out
[09:22] <ikonia> BadManiac: fakeraid has terrible support, and in my view is unstable and a waste
[09:22] <axion> I have been searching andlessly and neither cyblafb nor tridentfb (kernel framebuffer) nor the cyberblade/trident drivers (Xorg)work
[09:22] <DistroJockey> ikonia, fair enough also :)
[09:22] <BadManiac> Well, here's the deal, I have 2 500GB sata disks
[09:22] <nathan5603> Good evening
[09:22] <axion> I can only use vesafb/x-vesa
[09:23] <BadManiac> I want to use them as one single continous space, to store cctv camera captures
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: use linux software raid
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: but truth be told, I'd again advise strongly against and raid0 setups
[09:23] <nathan5603> Has anyone had any luck getting Ubuntu to connect through rdesktop to windows?
[09:23] <BadManiac> Can I set that up after installing ubuntu?
[09:23] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: According to top it only made it to 91% (probably too slow to update), its now oscillating between 10-50%
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: you can
[09:23] <schitzo> hi
[09:23] <BadManiac> Yay, so, help!
[09:23] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, interesting, thank you
[09:23] <kaoticsnow> =(
[09:24] <BadManiac> erk, wont let me priv. Spam in main it is then :p
[09:24] <nathan5603> Good evening, has anyone had any luck running IE 6 in Wine?
[09:24] <hyde> hello
[09:24] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Why are you thanking me, you're helping me :P
[09:24] <schitzo> not sure
[09:24] <hyde> anyone that would like to help me with some ubuntu problems say my nick name
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> nathan5603, ie4linux, google and get that
[09:25] <ikonia> BadManiac: just getting you a forum post I wrote
[09:25] <BadManiac> coolness
[09:25] <nathan5603> SitUbuntuSit thanks for the advice.
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> nathan5603, it works fine is relatively easy to get up and running :)
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> *and
[09:25] <BadManiac> will also need some help installing the software from sourceforge. But I'll do it in baby steps heh
[09:26] <axion> hello
[09:26] <hyde> how you use this thing
[09:26] <Jazman_brewer> hey on quick question how do i install programs from my hard drive
[09:26] <DistroJockey> hyde, just ask away
[09:26] <hyde> i just see many people joining
[09:26] <Jazman_brewer> that i have already downloaded
[09:27] <fde> BadManiac: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for assistance with that, the Packaging 101 courses specifically... very interesting, and easy to follow
[09:27] <hyde> who is away
[09:27] <DistroJockey> !ask | hyde
[09:27] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: thansk for the help but nothings working I'm just going to have someone reset the root password later
[09:27] <ikonia> BadManiac: check this post out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=745131 this should get you stared, pay close attention to the bit that says "you cannot have /boot on a raid 0 or 5 partition"
[09:27] <fde> BadManiac: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment for more indepth stuff, but the OpenWeek logs link to that.
[09:27] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: how are you going to have someone reset the root password ?
[09:27] <hyde> oh
[09:28] <hyde> thanks
[09:28] <DistroJockey> np
[09:28] <ikonia> BadManiac: that is the wrong thread - one moment, sorry
[09:28] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, they be .deb packages?
[09:28] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Stumped?
[09:28] <Jazman_brewer> tbz i think
[09:28] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: dont know yet
[09:28] <Kennie`> hi, do you suggest to update a box _remote_ from 6.06 to the least 8.04? or leave it on 6.06?
[09:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just doing a little playing over here
[09:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ok thanks
[09:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what you've said points at video card issues, but - that doesn't appear the case
[09:29] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, extract the dirs and files and follow the readme
[09:29] <Jazman_brewer> sorry tarz
[09:29] <hyde> i install ubuntu a few days ago in my laptop but when i shut down my laptop it does not turn off
[09:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: would you be itnerested a in slightly more intrusive test ?
[09:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah no worries.
[09:29] <fde> Kennie`: You can wait a bit to get any late fixes and some security updates... still have a year on dapper I think
[09:29] <ikonia> BadManiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454116&highlight=raid
[09:29] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, all good tarz come with a readme :)
[09:29] <ikonia> BadManiac: that should give youa  good guide
[09:30] <BadManiac> So, I can't boot from raided disks? Then how would you suggest setting this PC up?
[09:30] <Kennie`> fde : yes, but then it means i'm in the same situation next year? ;)
[09:30] <co_mo_CO> arjuna
[09:30] <BadManiac> thanks ikonia
[09:30] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: first, have you got some sort of insane high resolution
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> i was hoping not to install that way im used to self install from windows first time linux user
[09:30] <ikonia> BadManiac: you create a seperate /boot partition that can either be a single disk, or mirrored
[09:30] <fde> Kennie`: No, because they'll fix most of the issues with upgrading by then, and it'll be mostly seamless  :)
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> sofar i look it up on add remove
[09:30] <shiesty> yo
[09:30] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Nah only 1024x768
[09:30] <hyde> my ubuntu does not turn off it just freeze on the  black  screen UBUNTU
[09:30] <ikonia> BadManiac: but keep in mind ANY file system corruption on your raid0 array, and you'll be re-installing the whole OS
[09:30] <fde> Kennie`: Besides, I'm not really saying a year, just a few months or so...
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> this os is a big diff to what im used to
[09:31] <Kennie`> fde : ok, that makes sense :) - thanks
[09:31] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, I want you to change the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "vesa" in your xorg.conf and restart X please.
[09:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, you may need to change the scope of what is listed in Add/Remove
[09:31] <fde> Jazman_brewer: Where are you coming from?
[09:31] <edibrac1> say i'm on kernel 2.6.24 and I want to downgrade 2.6.18 - i can do that in one apt-get command?
[09:31] <BadManiac> I have two physicla disks, both 500GB, can I keep them setup as they are, with the ubuntu install and the swap partition on disk 0, and then raid the rest of disk 0, along with all of disk 1?
[09:31] <fde> edibrac1: do you have a 2.6.18 kernel in /boot already? (vmlinuz)
[09:32] <ikonia> BadManiac: read the post I sent you
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> how do i chabge a scope
[09:32] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, Synaptic in the System - Administration area is better in most ways
[09:32] <BadManiac> on it :)
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> i have fidled with
[09:32] <fde> edibrac1: Don't go any further back than that though, that one had a local root exploit possible
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> i got wine going
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> just have to get music prog going with it
[09:32] <fde> edibrac1: Uhh, that one fixed the root kit...
[09:32] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, in Add/Remove where it says Show: change it there
[09:33] <fde> Jazman_brewer: Why not use Ubuntu apps for music and movies?
[09:33] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Is there anyway to restart X without rebooting (does ctrl-alt-backspace do it?)
[09:33] <Jazman_brewer> i am at the mo
[09:33] <BadManiac> Yeah, Im gonna need some more in depth guidance, I dont even know how to get to the command line... Been using MS products including dos for 21 years, I#m a bit lost in this alien linux world. Sorry...
[09:33] <jk_> if i use tar -cvf does that compress as well as archiving?
[09:34] <fde> Boredom_inc: It does, yes... or /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... which is cleaner  (do it from ctrl+alt+f1 though)
[09:34] <Jazman_brewer> well i will work this tarz instal out
[09:34] <Jazman_brewer> got to get dinner back soon
[09:34] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, what's the package?
[09:34] <Boredom_inc> fde: thanks
[09:34] <DistroJockey> snap
[09:34] <hyde> my ubuntu does not shut down it just freezes does anyone know the cause
[09:35] <DistroJockey> hyde, my only "guess" is acpi issues
[09:35]  * fde thinks it's weird that ctrl+alt+f1 mutes sounds in X
[09:35] <theveryend> ouch
[09:35] <hyde> so what should i do
[09:35] <student> hi
[09:35] <jk_> !tar
[09:36] <DistroJockey> hyde, what laptop have you got?
[09:36] <fde> Boredom_inc: ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back to X btw whenever you go to a tty (what is on ctrl+alt+f1-6)
[09:36] <kelvin911> why the fonts in hardy is so thick?
[09:36] <hyde> toshiba satellite m45-s331
[09:36] <edibrac1> god i hate Twiki
[09:36] <student> how to install frostwire?
[09:36] <fde> (ctrl isn't necessary, but it works, and it's easier to remember if you only remember 1 thing)
[09:36] <arooni> is there a way to 'favorite' a particular AP in gutsy?  my gutsy laptop always seems to pick the WRONG ap to try to connect to.  thanks!
[09:36] <veliouras> hello guys
[09:36] <SitUbuntuSit> student, download the deb from frostwire.com
[09:36] <arooni> also it seems to spin endlessly in trying to connect
[09:36] <IntangibleLiquid> I sometimes get a problem with hibernation. After getting back to the system my eth0 no longer works.
[09:36] <edibrac1> i say, dokuwiki or mediawiki is the way to go - twiki is too ugly
[09:37] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I restarted x
[09:37] <hyde> Distrojockey i have toshiba satellite m45-s331
[09:37] <IntangibleLiquid> student: you need to first remove the open source jre version and install the version from sun
[09:37] <veliouras> i am interested in buying a usb wireless adaptor that can work directly with ubuntu
[09:37] <IntangibleLiquid> student: because Frostwire doesn't work with the opensource jre
[09:37] <veliouras> any suggestions?
[09:37] <DistroJockey> hyde, k, looking around a bit. Not really my area.
[09:38] <student> i already try to install the frostwire but it does not load on the desktop. what should i do?
[09:38] <hyde> oh
[09:38] <IntangibleLiquid> student: as I said, remove the open source version of jre and install the sun version
[09:38] <student> ahh... how to remove what is the command
[09:39] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I didn't get the nVidia splash but nvidia is still listed under lsmod... is that normal?
[09:39] <IntangibleLiquid> student: I prefer synaptic
[09:39] <hyde> Distrojockey i used to have xp home install in my computer I got many times the blue screen about the BIOS and ACPI i try to look for an update but nothing
[09:40] <student> can i find that in the system package manager?
[09:40] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats fine
[09:40] <SitUbuntuSit> do a search for java there and remove it. then you can install the sun java6 plugin and it will select the java jre and bin files you need
[09:40] <IntangibleLiquid> student: it's the synaptic package manager under Menu-System-Administration
[09:41] <dupin> student : synaptic is system package manager
[09:41] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: I figured out why mysqladmin isnto working, there is already a password set up and that command only allows you to set a new pass, I need to reset wahtever password is currenlty set on myslq
[09:41] <student> thanks
[09:41] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Things are probably just as slow (maybe a bit slower, not sure really)... glxgears doesn't wgh
[09:42] <veliouras> i am interested in buying a usb wireless adaptor that can work directly with ubuntu
[09:42] <dupin> student : in synaptic search box type java and you will see wich one is installed.Delete it
[09:42] <DistroJockey> hyde, not turning up much here. Do you know or can find out what BIOS you are running?
[09:42] <veliouras> any suggestions?
[09:42] <x1250> kaoticsnow: you can purge mysql-server and reinstall it, and choose a new password
[09:42] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: work*, which i presume is meant to happen when not using correct 3D drivers
[09:42] <xxxxxxx> where can I find the hardyheron server iso. could not find it on ubuntu.com
[09:43] <dupin> student :then type in serch box sun and you will find sun-java6-bin
[09:43] <punisher> hi
[09:43] <punisher> any body speack in russian?
[09:44] <SitUbuntuSit> yes, many russians do
[09:44] <punisher> my english is no good
[09:44] <student> thanks dupin
[09:44] <dupin> student : np
[09:44] <SitUbuntuSit> !ru | punisher
[09:44] <hyde> well i have ubuntu bios i guess
[09:45] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: no luck http://paste.ubuntu.com/8863/
[09:45] <punisher> I like ubuntu and want help this
[09:45] <sirmike1970md> hi all how do i install themes in kubuntu
[09:45] <hyde> Distrojockey i guess i have ubuntu bios but when i used to have xp i had 2.0 bios
[09:45] <SitUbuntuSit> there is a #kubuntu channel sirmike1970md
[09:46] <IntangibleLiquid> !kubuntu | sirmike1970md
[09:46] <punisher> Please, help me with my webcam at notebook
[09:46] <kelvin911> how to edit sources.list??
[09:46] <moon`> bah!
[09:46] <icqnumber> !kde
[09:46] <kelvin911> sudo gedit sources.list ??
[09:46] <SitUbuntuSit> punisher, join #ubuntu-ru
[09:46] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Let me know if you have any more ideas. Thanks
[09:46] <punisher> I have cam on Bisoncam chipset and cat`t find driver
[09:46] <DistroJockey> hyde, check against here:  http://tinyurl.com/5gsl82
[09:46] <edibrac1> is there a good reason to move from ubuntu to debian?
[09:46] <dupin> kelvin911 : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <kelvin911> why gksudo?
[09:47] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: sorry, I had to pop out for a second
[09:47] <kelvin911> what is the different?
[09:47] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can you give me an overview if anything has changed at all
[09:47] <DistroJockey> hyde, seems it was last update in 02/07/06 so, probably not going to help
[09:48] <hyde> yes
[09:48] <punisher> thenks you
[09:48] <punisher> good bye
[09:48] <kelvin911> hello?  what is the different between gksudo and sudo ?
[09:48] <SitUbuntuSit> gksudo is more for graphical interfaces that need sudo, while sudo is used more for command line.
[09:48] <ikonia> kelvin911: gksu is for X11 apps
[09:48] <hyde> DistroJockey thats the one
[09:48] <IntangibleLiquid> !bye | punisher
[09:48] <kelvin911> so how do i know when to sudo and when to gksudo?
[09:48] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ummm, it seems to be running at an identical speed. glxgears doesn't work, which I presume is meant to happen without 3D drivers. Nothing else is different really.
[09:49] <IntangibleLiquid> !gksudo
[09:49] <DistroJockey> hyde, the system is probably shutting down far enough to not cause any damage, but I guess it would be nice not to have to use the power button to finish the job
[09:49] <kelvin911> so gksudo is for gui application?
[09:49] <noip> how do check if a specific interface is down? "ifconfig hso0" shows it even when it's down...
[09:49] <SitUbuntuSit> kelvin911, because graphical progs have settings and affect other docs/settings that can be borked when using sudo
[09:50] <SitUbuntuSit> kelvin911, yes
[09:50] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: correct. Very interesting
[09:50] <shiesty> ?
[09:50] <AbstortedMinds> hi, i have an imac w/ ubuntu and when i hold down a button like 'W' to go forward in a game, i cannot move the mouse while that button (any button) is being held, any ideas on what is causing this
[09:50] <DistroJockey> hyde, but I'm not that familiar with acpi issues, sorry.
[09:51] <KalEl> ever since i upgraded to the last firefox 3 beta in hardy, it keeps slowing down and stops to respond from time to time while using the hard disk for some reason
[09:51] <KalEl> is there a chance i can get the bete version before the latest one? that was much smoother
[09:52] <ikonia> KalEl: you have the beta version already
[09:52] <KalEl> the one before the latest beta
[09:52] <kelvin911> after i modify sources.list, do i need to reboot ??
[09:52] <KalEl> there was some upgrade which update ff3 beta and that's causing the problem
[09:52] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ok so what if theres no root user in my mysql install? lol I restarted using --skip-grant-tables and tried to rest the pass and got :mysqladmin: unable to change password; error: 'Can't find any matching row in the user table'
[09:52] <Uplink> :(
[09:52] <jk_> !backup
[09:52] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: looks like you've not done the database setup
[09:53] <MaxMekker> Hello! Ubuntu is spying on me. During the upgrade to Hardy Heron, it started the webcam and saved several pictures on /tmp/motion.
[09:53] <dupin> 	kelvin911 : save file and close it.  sudo apt-get update
[09:53] <kelvin911> dupin: thanks
[09:53] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: yea its a fresh install I've done nothing to it
[09:53] <BadManiac> How do I get to the command line?
[09:53] <dupin> kelvin911: np
[09:54] <kelvin911> what is the tracker search?
[09:54] <kelvin911> is it new?
[09:54] <MattJ> BadManiac: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[09:54] <elporo> Can anyone answer me a quick Wubi question?
[09:54] <KalEl> how can i see the cache size used by firefox 3? i suspect that might also be the problem
[09:54] <xxxxxxx> How do I find out what driver I have installed?
[09:54] <xxxxxxx> video driver*
[09:54] <BadManiac> thanks Mattj
[09:54] <magnetron> elporo: go ahead and ask
[09:54] <MattJ> kelvin911: It's been around for a few versions, it indexes your files so you can find the ones you want in seconds
[09:54] <micro_cz> please anybody having problem with laptop battery in conky (hardy heron) ?
[09:55] <kelvin911> MattJ: okay but i dont see it in previous version
[09:55] <dupin> kelvin911 : you serch files with it (obvious) and it was in Gutsy
[09:55] <xukun> anybody here using microsft wireless keyboard?
[09:55] <patifa> KalEl: head to the URL "about:cache" without the quotes
[09:55] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: it should be in the xorg config
[09:55] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: please please please, just install using the desktop
[09:55] <kelvin911> because now it has an icon so i think it is new
[09:55] <elporo> security wise, not performance, does running with a Wubi install makes it less secure?
[09:55] <MattJ> kelvin911: Yeah, the icon might be new, I can't remember
[09:56] <KalEl> thanks patifa
[09:56] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773859&highlight=lamp+mysql+password
[09:56] <kelvin911> what about that deskbar search?
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> lol
[09:56] <kelvin911> are they different?
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> ikonia thats no fun
[09:56] <Boredom_inc> just out of curiosity if I'm upgrading what does everybody think is better for Ubuntu (which will be less likely to have driver problems).... 512MB ATI 3870 PCI-E or 512MB ATI 3870 PCI-E
[09:56] <dupin> kelvin911 :still not using Hardy so I don´t know
[09:56] <BadManiac> right no list in fdisk, how can I see a list of my physical disks and partitions, to see which is which?
[09:56] <MattJ> elporo: If you mean because it is running from Windows, then no, it doesn't
[09:56] <kelvin911> and there is one search for file in Places
[09:56] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: try sudo mysqladmin -u root password PASSWORDHERE
[09:56] <elporo> that's what I meant
[09:56] <Uplink> ikonia, no luck dude :(
[09:56] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: yes, but its clear yout not confident what your doing
[09:56] <KalEl> is there any way to track what is reading from/writing to the hard disk with hardy? from time to time hard disk gets excited and system stops responding
[09:56] <MattJ> elporo: When you install Wubi, and select to start Ubuntu, only Ubuntu is running, Windows is thankfully not :)
[09:56] <kelvin911> after i update to hardy, the font in opera changes to very thick
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> if I install using the desktop won't i need to uninstall gdm and all that jazz? I decided to try the server .iso
[09:57] <ikonia> Uplink: have you tried loading them manually throught the restricted driver maanger on the livecd
[09:57] <elporo> The main reason I use Linux (for now) it's security
[09:57] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the server iso is a bad call for you
[09:57] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the drivers you want will not be available
[09:57] <dupin> kelvin911  :   that is tracker
[09:57] <patifa> Ubuntu does look a lot more awesome with compiz running, it's just a shame I can't get it working w/o the binary driver.
[09:57] <elporo> I use it for my internet banking and shopping and anything where security is important
[09:57] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: no luck tired that already several times it refuses to give me access
[09:57] <Uplink> ikonia, i tried to install ndiswrapper but couldnt download it b/c im not conenct to the internet :/
[09:57] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: and you used sudo
[09:57] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Should I just give up for the moment? I'm upgrading soon.
[09:57] <ikonia> Uplink: I didn't say install ndiswrapper
[09:57] <xxxxxxx> Ithe only thing i need to know is how to get the video driver installed from command line for hardy heron
[09:57] <kaoticsnow> I'm logged in as root
[09:58] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: It hought you where on hardy already ?
[09:58] <baalsgate> any women in here ?
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> after that i should be able to manage ikonia
[09:58] <dupin> kelvin911 : you can custumize them in Opera
[09:58] <kaoticsnow> via sudo bash
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: it won't work on the server
[09:58] <Uplink> ikonia, im pretty noob with ubuntu...
[09:58] <kelvin911> anyone uses awn here?
[09:58] <baalsgate> lol
[09:58] <KalEl> kaoticsnow, don't log in as root
[09:58] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: why are you logged in as root
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> ah it won't?
[09:58] <kelvin911> dupin: but why the font changes?
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: no, as I told you a few lines up
[09:58] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Sorry I am. I mean upgrading my PC in a month.
[09:58] <kelvin911> dupin: i dont know which font opera was using
[09:58] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats not the point to me, I'm unsure at why you are having pain
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> what won't work exactly?
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the video drivers shippe with ubuntu
[09:58] <KalEl> how can i check if the ubuntu cache partition is working fine?
[09:59] <xxxxxxx> ikonia if I use the desktop version how do i get rid of gdm and all that?
[09:59] <DistroJockey> KalEl, you mean swap partition?
[09:59] <xxxxxxx> I won't be able to apt get them?
[09:59] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: why do you want to get rid of them, they are an interface to X11 that your application needs
[09:59] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: Just easier
[09:59] <KalEl> swap partition correct DistroJockey thanks
[09:59] <Hamled> what is the key shortcut in gnome to open a 'run this command' window?
[09:59] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: you can just remove them using the package manager, anything you don't want
[09:59] <dupin> kelvin911 : from time to time (when changing users) it reset my fonts too,but they are back after logout nd login
[09:59] <paco_> ciao a tutti
[09:59] <paco_> ciao a tutti
[10:00] <patifa> KalEl: Check the system monitor, the Resources page.  You can see how much of the swap partition is in use.
[10:00] <DistroJockey> KalEl, well, typing    free   in a terminal should do the job
[10:00] <xxxxxxx> ikonia I need to boot that one application. according to this all I need is an x-server mainly
[10:00] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, fancy another test
[10:00] <elporo> So if my windows gets infected by virus, spyware or rootkit, my Ubuntu will be ok even if it's installed with the WUBI option?
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: gdm is the front end to "launch" the Xserver
[10:00] <xxxxxxx> this--> http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=32046
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: this is what I mean about you not being confident with what your doing
[10:00] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes
[10:00] <tommytaiwan> hello, i have a noob question about Remote Desktop
[10:00] <dupin> kelvin911  :  you can choose which font you like and use it (in Opera I mean)
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: do what you want - I'm advising you and you want to do your own thing - so d o it
[10:00] <KalEl> thanks patifa DistroJockey
[10:00] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: do you have another PC in the house ? are you on a network at all
[10:00] <chrissturm> is there a streaming server like icecast or shoutcast in main?
[10:01] <Uplink> ikonia, im pretty noob with ubuntu...
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: I appriciate that
[10:01] <tommytaiwan> i entered full screen mode on remote desktop, but now i can't get back to my own computer
[10:01] <DistroJockey> KalEl, or   cat /proc/meminfo
[10:01] <xxxxxxx> ikonia I really appreciate all your advice. but it's possible so I want to try at least
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: open the restricted drivers manager
[10:01] <Hamled> what is the key shortcut in gnome to open a 'run this command' window?
[10:01] <DistroJockey> KalEl, you're welcome
[10:01] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: then try and stop asking questions
[10:01] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes I am on a network, wireless actually. No other PCs are turned on at present though.
[10:01] <kelvin911> i think the font is mess up after the update
[10:01] <Uplink> ikonia, im on windows right now
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: ok, I can't help you then
[10:01] <kelvin911> anyone having the font too thick problem?
[10:01] <end-user> Hamled: you mean alt+f2?
[10:02] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, could you try sshing into your box and seeing how that console responds ?
[10:02] <SoerenW> hi
[10:02] <xxxxxxx> ha the one question i need answered is how to find out what driver I currently have installed and how to reinstall it from the command line
[10:02] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: there usually is a keyboard combination that will allow you to exit full-screen - did you check the docs?
[10:02] <KalEl> hmm my memory is all free still firefox 3 wants to access hard disk for anything i do
[10:02] <Uplink> ikonia, how am I supposed to connect to here with ubuntu if i cant even connect to the internet?
[10:02] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: and I've answer that for you
[10:02] <xxxxxxx> I'll figure that out. thanks anyway. you've been a huge help
[10:02]  * DistroJockey hopes patifa is a nice word KalEl :)
[10:02] <ikonia> Uplink: your not, your supposed to write down what I've suggested and try it
[10:02] <dupin> kelvin911 : I know what are you talking about I expirienced same thing
[10:02] <Uplink> ok ok
[10:02] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'll ssh in with my ipod touch cause it's quicker than booting up my incredibly slow laptop.
[10:02] <kelvin911> dupin: what was it?
[10:02] <kelvin911> dupin: what is causing this?
[10:02] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats fine
[10:02] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: where are the docs?
[10:02] <dupin> kelvin911  ????????????
[10:02] <KalEl> DistroJockey, actually it's some one else's nick who also answered me :)
[10:03] <Hamled> that is what I meant, yes thanks
[10:03] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I'm trying to work out if the PC is having issues, or if it is just the actual screen draw
[10:03] <jk_> how do i list the contents of a tar.b2z archive
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: i thought u experience the font problem too
[10:03] <end-user> Hamled: :)
[10:03] <ikonia> jk_: tar tjvf $file
[10:03] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: let me check for you.
[10:03] <jk_> thanks
[10:03] <Uplink> ikonia, im listening
[10:03] <Uplink> open restrict driv man
[10:03] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I think it's the PC but I'm really not sure what exactly.
[10:03] <DistroJockey> KalEl, ohh, ahh, sorry patifa :)
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: now the bold fonts are so thick
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: its like bold bold font
[10:03] <ikonia> Uplink: boot ubuntu, open the restricted driver manager from the system menu and see if it can enable/load the broadcom drivers
[10:03] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: this will give us a good hint
[10:03] <Hamled> now, is there a way to make sure that emerald is setup as the theme manager at startup, so I don't have to run emerald --replace manually?
[10:04] <dupin> kelvin911  : yes,I it can be related with new version not be polish
[10:04] <Uplink> ok ikonia, TY TY ^_^
[10:04] <ikonia> Hamled: there is post on the forum for that, let me see if I can find it
[10:04] <Uplink> it said microcode error
[10:04] <Hamled> ikonia, thanks
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: how have you tested it so quick
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: you said you where not on windows
[10:04] <ikonia> where on windows
[10:04] <DistroJockey> KalEl, I guess you could install firefox-2 and see if you have the same issue
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: ubuntu doesn't boot that quick
[10:04] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: ok I'm in
[10:04] <Uplink> ikonia, it was on the boot screen
[10:04] <dupin> kelvin911 : in Opera tools>peferences>advanced>fonts
[10:04] <dw90> hey people I got a problem, some of DVDs I cant mount, I get error message: Unable to mount media. here is probably no media in the drive.
[10:05] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, how response is it to general typing
[10:05] <moon`> okay, say I have a choice between four files: *.rpm *.tar.bz2 *.tar.gz and *.deb | which to I download and how to I install it once I've downloaded
[10:05] <ikonia> Uplink: let me search on that
[10:05] <moon`> this is for opera 9.50b
[10:05] <ikonia> moon`: deb is for the ubuntu package manager, however make sure it is compatible with ubuntu
[10:05] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: the help file for krdc says there should be an icon somewhere on your screen that looks like a monitor with arrows at the four corners of the monitor icon.
[10:06] <DistroJockey> moon`, and dpkg would be how
[10:06] <moon`> ikonia: ty
[10:06] <jk_> ikonia, i am trying back up when i use tar -jcf i get a message "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" is this an error
[10:06] <moon`> DistroJockey: ty also
[10:06] <dupin> moon`  : select Opera for ubuntu deb package
[10:06] <DistroJockey> mooky, np
[10:06] <DistroJockey> oops, sorry mooky
[10:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: It's pretty good. The occasional tiny "lag" (not really the correct term) but I think that happened in 7.10
[10:06] <DistroJockey> moon`, np :)
[10:06] <ikonia> jk_: no, not an error
[10:06] <dw90> some of DVDs I cant mount, I get error message: Unable to mount media. here is probably no media in the drive. Is there a force mount option?
[10:06] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, so that backs up my theory - it's the screen re-draw
[10:06] <jk_> cheers ikonia
[10:06] <SkinnYPup> Is there a way to thorottle back cpu intensive apps in background?
[10:06] <moon`> is there a way to use the other files as well?
[10:06] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: oh, but i don't see anything like that on my screen
[10:06] <ikonia> SkinnYPup: man nice
[10:06] <moon`> dupin: the x86_64 architecture for opera isn't listed on there site
[10:07] <SkinnYPup> ikonia: ;0) thx
[10:07] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: where is the document so i can read more?
[10:07] <ikonia> moon`: then it's not available
[10:07] <DistroJockey> moon`, yep, there's a way, may not be pretty though
[10:07] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: That makes sense. Yeah that makes sense, mind you I still have no idea what is causing it.
[10:07] <moon`> DistroJockey: was just asking for future reference ;)
[10:07] <end-user> Hi, I'm sure this has been asked a lot lately, but I've tried a few forum solutions to no avail: Is there any fix for Flash crashing Firefox, or do we pretty much have to rough it out for a while?
[10:08] <MaxMekker> Forward/back-buttons in FireFox 3 beta 5 do not work. I just upgraded ubuntu to Hardy Heron. How to fix the buttons in FF?
[10:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: give me a moment or two to walk that through
[10:08] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: open up krdc and select help - krdc handbook.
[10:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: your card is the 6600 isn't it ?
[10:08] <kelvin911> how come gtk-window decorator can not make the title bar like mac OSX?
[10:08] <tom____> this is going to sound stupid, but for a stock standard hardy install, do i just get the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386 image?
[10:08] <kelvin911> only emerald theme manager can customize title bar?
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No, TNT2
[10:09] <DistroJockey> tom____, personally I would get the Alternate
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Hence why I'll be upgrading in a month :P
[10:09] <tom____> DistroJockey: how come?
[10:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhhh what chipset is on that
[10:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I remeber this
[10:09] <DistroJockey> tom____, works better with differing install types
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm not sure of the chipset to be honest. Is there a way to check?
[10:10] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: i am trying to find the keyboard shortcuts for kdrc, be patient.
[10:10] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: i think i'm not using kdrc. I'm using the default client for Hardy.
[10:10] <tom____> DistroJockey: ok but i'm gonna have an xserver and everything, i doubt i'll change any defaults
[10:10] <DistroJockey> tom____, if you don't need live CD type function, get alternate I say :)
[10:10] <DistroJockey> tom____, should do the job fine
[10:10] <tom____> DistroJockey: ok thanks mate
[10:11] <DistroJockey> tom____, no problem
[10:11] <SkinnYPup> Does change priority of a process in system monitor have the effect of thorottleing back that process cpu% or is this likely to crash a prog? vmware-vmx is eating a lotta cycles
[10:11] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: it's called "Remote Desktop Viewer" so i think i can check the help file there
[10:12] <sa> hey everyone
[10:12] <hp_> hi
[10:12] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: thanks for your help. I just had to press F11 or Ctr+Alt
[10:12] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwain:  glad i could help.
[10:12] <hp_> my computer would randomly freezes. and i would have no control of the keyboard and mouse. do anyone know how to fix this?
[10:12] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: glad i could help :)
[10:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: sorry, I missed what you said, darn phone rang again
[10:12] <hp_> and the sounds would just repeat itself over and over and over again
[10:12] <sa> i just installed kopete for KDE to my GNOME. How come it is working but I cannot access the menu?
[10:12] <hp_> i tried everything. and it even crashed when i'm nto watching anything
[10:13] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm not what chipset it is. Is there a way to check?
[10:13] <kaoticsnow> =( time for a relaod
[10:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what does "lspci" say about it
[10:13] <Uplink> ikonia, i wanna dual boot XP with Ubuntu
[10:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I know it's an nvidia but I can't remember the chipset
[10:13] <ikonia> Uplink: ok ?
[10:13] <Uplink> good idea?
[10:13] <jaredbuck> sa: make sure the kde regular packages are installed - try installing kubuntu-desktop. kopete won't work unless you have the kde files installed.
[10:13] <ikonia> Uplink: up to you
[10:14] <Boredom_inc> ikonia:  nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: one moment
[10:14] <nox-Hand> Can anyone confirm for me sourceforge is down?
[10:14] <sa> jaredbuck: ok, thank you. Another question. HOw do I install new emoticons to kopete?
[10:14] <kelvin911> anyone heard of Mac4Lin package?
[10:14] <BadManiac> How can I tell which disk SDA or SDB my OS and swap partition is on, and which is the blank disk?
[10:14] <dupin> Uplink : most of people started that way
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: got you !
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: please show me "dpkg -l | grep nvidia-glx"
[10:15] <jaredbuck> sa: i don't know the answer to that one, the kopete defaults work fine for me. but i can look it up for you.
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> nox-Hand: here's a useful link. Bookmark it. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[10:15] <DistroJockey> nox-Hand, confirmed
[10:15] <jaredbuck> nox-Hand: it does seem to be down on my machine.
[10:15] <nox-Hand> ArthurArchnix: Thanks, that's awesome :)
[10:15] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: err that's pretty long, should I use pastebin or something?
[10:15] <Uplink> dupin ty
[10:15] <sa> jaredbuck: thank you. I am looking into it also but cannot find it
[10:15] <DistroJockey> cheers ArthurArchnix :)
[10:15] <Nevstah> can anyone suggest why i can't upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04? in ssh all i get is http://pastebin.com/d2842290
[10:15] <x1250> pastebin yes! :D
[10:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhh please
[10:16] <ShinMaster> hello to all
[10:16] <dupin> Uplink : read   http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/installing
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Wait sorry it's not long... It's short :P I missed where it started
[10:16] <Uplink> kk ty
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: ii  nvidia-glx-legacy                          71.86.04+2.6.24.12-16.34      NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' dri
[10:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: 2 minutes please
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries
[10:17] <dupin> Uplink np
[10:17] <jaredbuck> sa: take a look here: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/faq.html#id2557327 and look at 8.4.
[10:17] <mrtimdog> Hi, I've just started up my hardy and my desktop is now showing my home dir!?
[10:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, back, short phone call
[10:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhh rats, its the correct legacy package
[10:18] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I thought you where using the wrong one
[10:18] <kaoticsnow> the iso for spark cpu's is not on the dowload page anymore?
[10:18] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: lol, no.... the mystery continues.
[10:18] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: I don't think sparc is a supported platform anymore
[10:19] <anix> hi, do you know burning tool that can burn CD/DVD for booting-up??
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thisi s very frustrating
[10:19] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: wonderfull
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: it "looks" like your card has issues with the current drivers, but as it worked when you first installed it I can't see what would change to make it slow down
[10:19] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Maybe my computer is hinting it is old and tired:P
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: that card is certainly old
[10:19] <jaredbuck> anix: k3b can burn CDs/DVDs that boot, the files on the disc themselves will tell your computer that they can be booted from the disc when it starts up.
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: you've not got compiz enabled have you ?
[10:20] <mrtimdog> Is there a gconf key for nautilus which contains the location of the folder used for the desktop?
[10:20] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Compiz wouldn't enable if I tried :P
[10:20] <jaredbuck> sa, did you check out the link i gave you?
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: didn't think so
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I want to give you a solution, I really do, but it does appear that card is just not happy with the driver
[10:20] <sa> jaredbuck: cool, thank you
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the top session and the ssh session backs that up
[10:21] <jaredbuck> sa, no problem :)  google search works wonders LOL.
[10:21] <anix> jaredbuck: where i can download it?
[10:21] <sa> jaredbuck: hahaha
[10:21] <ddonky> ﻿i  just upgraded to hardy and firefox 3 beta keeps crashing. why even provide a beta release?
[10:21] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: last shot, try changing the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "nv" and restarting Xorg
[10:21] <phome> morning fellas, can I increase the 2d frame rate/redraw? I don't want to use compiz
[10:21] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ok brb
[10:21] <ikonia> ddonky: the majority of people are finding the beta release more stable than the stable firefox2 branch
[10:21] <DistroJockey> ddonky, it is very stable by default
[10:21] <ikonia> ddonky: that was the theory behind it
[10:22] <jaredbuck> anix: k3b comes standard if you installed kubuntu or kde. if you didn't install it right away you can install it using a package manager or in GNOME, the add/remove applications selection.
[10:22] <sa> jaredbuck: hahaha
[10:22] <Nevstah> are there any 'real' problems upgrading over ssh?
[10:22] <ddonky> ahh, ok
[10:22] <ikonia> Nevstah: if your network dies - your install is dead
[10:22] <DistroJockey> ddonky, I suggest disabling plugins
[10:23] <DistroJockey> ddonky, some or all, up to you
[10:23] <Nevstah> so i need to do it locally and plug monitor/keybd in then?
[10:23] <kaoticsnow> 7.04 is the last release avaliable on spark right?
[10:23] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: looks that way
[10:23] <co_mo_CO> 55i
[10:23] <ddonky> DistroJockey - someone else told me it may be flash related
[10:23] <kaoticsnow> kk I give up on this box reinstalling
[10:23] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: the arch is called sparc (incase you do things like google search)
[10:23] <moon`> how do you tell what version of ubuntu you have i.e. dapper drake, gutsy, feisty, hardon
[10:24] <DistroJockey> ddonky, very likely
[10:24] <ikonia> moon`: lsb_release -a
[10:24] <Jaymac> i have a collection of ogg vorbis files, is there an easy way to merge them into one single audio file?
[10:24] <moon`> dandi, thanks ikonia
[10:24] <ddonky> for now i'm sticking with ff2 which has mouse gestures
[10:24] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Things actually seem to be running smoother with nv instead of nvidia. But now I don't have GLX support
[10:24] <DistroJockey> ddonky, :)
[10:24] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes, thats a side effect
[10:24] <realityiswhere`> Jaymac, there's a program called audacity that you can use to do that.
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the nv driver won't support glx
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: but the fact that the driver makes a difference again leans towards the card + driver = not happy
[10:25] <anix> hi, at startup, ubuntu tell me that my laptop's battery has very low cap.(33%). What can I do?
[10:25] <Jaymac> realityiswhere`: yeah i have audacity.. was hoping there was a simpler tool :) thanks
[10:25] <anix> ''my laptop is new
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: is it noticable better ?
[10:25] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I don't understand why not though. The driver hasn't changed since 7.10
[10:25] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: oooh the driver has changed
[10:25] <sa> jaredbuck: When I use kopete there is a pop-up showing everytime somebody sends me a message
[10:25] <sa> jaredbuck: how do i get rid of that pop-up?
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: when you upgraded, the driver changed
[10:26] <jaredbuck> sa: I'd like to get rid of that popup too LOL.
[10:26] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Really?
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: and the kernel interface that links into the driver also changed
[10:26] <sa> jaredbuck: so anoying
[10:26] <sa> jaredbuck: annoying
[10:26] <Jast98> Morning everyone.
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats one of the reasons it's not advisable for people to run off and get drivers from nvidia.com as they are sensitive to things like kernel changes
[10:26] <jaredbuck> sa: it sure is.  I can try to figure out for both of us how to fix that.
[10:27] <Jast98> Need some help with a botched upgrade.
[10:27] <tom____> if i was going to put my /home on a different partition, how much hard disk space should i leave for /
[10:27] <Jast98> 6.06 to 8.04 went way wrong.
[10:27] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Hmmm, does that mean even if I revert the driver it still may not work as well due to the new kernel interface linking.
[10:27] <ikonia> tom____: minimum of 4G
[10:27] <DistroJockey> sa, jaredbuck : have you check with the folks in #kubuntu ?
[10:27] <kklimonda> Jast98: on desktop or server?
[10:27] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: possibly/possibly not
[10:27] <tom____> ikonia, how much so that it won't run out in the next 6 months
[10:27] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: you could try booting the gutsy kernel in hardy ?
[10:28] <ikonia> tom____: depends on your use
[10:28] <tom____> would 20 gig be excessive?
[10:28] <Jast98> kklimonda: desktop with LVM.  It looks like the LVM isn't being loaded after the upgrade.  Still loading the old kernel.
[10:28] <ikonia> tom____: if you have it to spare
[10:28] <Uplink> dupin, so i partion my HDD into a logical partition?
[10:28] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Is the the second option I have from grub? I have two kernels listed.
[10:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: should be yes
[10:28] <ikonia> (not the one that says recovery)
[10:28] <dupin> tom____ yes 10 is enough
[10:28] <tom____> dupin: ok cool
[10:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: 2.6.22-14 or something around that
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah I think that's it
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: try it
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ﻿ikonia: Hmm that's a pain having to use an outdated kernel... Ok brb
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: not really "outdated"
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just not bleeding endge
[10:29] <Uplink> dupin, i have a 100GB NTFS partition where all my windows is, a 12GB FAT12 (HP RECOVERY PARTITION) and 1GB NTFS partition of nothing in it
[10:29] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ok quick questios, after I reinstall this system, whats the FIRST thing I need to do to start setting up the mysql database?
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the gutsy kernel is fine
[10:29] <Jast98> kklimonda: The old 6.06 spash is still showing as well.
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'll set xorg.conf back to nvidia first?
[10:29] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:29] <sa> DistroJockey: no, not yet
[10:30] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: then it should prompt you to set a root password
[10:30] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes please.
[10:30] <sa> DistroJockey: trying to figure it out myself before I do
[10:30] <RedScare> OMG
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: even if I choose the LAMP install option? that installs it with the OS dosent it?
[10:30] <dupin> Uplink : do you have any free space or can you make it?
[10:30] <Uplink> i can :D
[10:30] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: it should, if thats the case pay attention to if it prompts you for a password
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ok
[10:30] <RedScare> I need to know how to log the names of windows that open
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: thanks for the help
[10:31] <DistroJockey> sa well, I figured most of us here are Gnome, and KDE help may be better there
[10:31] <Uplink> dupin, i delete the HP Recovery partition and the 1gb free, and partion that free space but idk how to partition it as... logical ?
[10:31] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: welcome
[10:31] <RedScare> anyone use devilspie???
[10:31] <sa> DistroJockey: thank you :)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> sa no problem, not guaranteed though :)
[10:32] <ubuntung-pino1> I'm trying to install Win XP on a slave HD. Thing is, its setup wants to write to the master disk, and it tells me to create an XP-compatible partition there..
[10:32] <harry_> how can i connect "default" to a wpa2 protected network of mine?
[10:32] <harry_> if i go to "edit wireless networks", it's there, i can see it, with correct settings
[10:32] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: thats a limitation of XP
[10:32] <harry_> but it won't connect at boot
[10:32] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: any ideas for keeping XP from doing this?
[10:33] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: you can't
[10:33] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: you have to take the ubuntu disk out for the XP install
[10:33] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: u mean install the effing thing with just the slave disk (set up as a master then)?
[10:34] <Ridion> Hi all!
[10:34] <DistroJockey> ubuntung-pino1, I'd install Windows on a disk (only 1 disk installed) then remove that disk and install Ubuntu on another. Then reconnect the Windows disk and set grub to find it.
[10:35] <Ridion> My dell vostro is giving me large amounts of grief... It's not booting any linux distros
[10:35] <moon`> !sound
[10:35] <Jast98> Can anyone help with a failed 6.06 to 8.04 upgrade? Running desktop with LVM and after the reboot from the upgrade it still shows the 6.06 splash screen, but then freezes.  Doesn't matter which kernel I select in Grub.
[10:35] <arooni__> hey team!  if i have a gutsy laptop (lenovo t61)... 1) is it safe to upgrade to hardy?  2) is it the right time to do that (in terms of traffic and trying to get the upgrade via the cool built in UI in gutsy)?  3) if its ok to go... how do i start running it?  how long will it take?
[10:35] <Jast98> It seems like it loads the boot partition, but then fails to load the LVM.
[10:35] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: oh my..but Hardy is already settled snuggly.. if i took out the HD that has mu Hardy, then install Windows on that 2nd HD, then pop the HD with Hardy in it, will I be able to use both?
[10:36] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Errr not so good. Graphics card wasn't detected, I'm now in low graphics mode. I checked xorg.conf and it was the correct driver.
[10:36] <dupin> Uplink : you can put it on primary
[10:36] <Ridion> My dell vostro is giving me large amounts of grief... It's not booting any linux distros
[10:36] <ph8> hi guys; i'm in massive trouble. I need to give my dissertation presentation on an ubuntu machine in an hour and it's forced an fsck on one of my drives on boot; it talks about a duplicate block and then i see lots of "Multiply-claimed block(s) on inode <number>:..." messages - it appears to have frozen after these messages, it's been like it for 10 minutes
[10:36] <ph8> anyone ever seen that before?
[10:36] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Sorry incorrect english. The driver is listed correctly
[10:37] <Ridion> can anybody help me with actually getting the live ubuntu disk to boot?
[10:37] <kkdw> ph8 tried to boot with a cd ? you might be able to mount from there
[10:37] <Ridion> I know it sounds basic
[10:37] <Ridion> but it's not
[10:37] <DistroJockey> arooni__, I'd have to say no. (but that's my opinion)
[10:37] <Uranellus> ph8: if there's no better solution, boot a live cd and try to access your dissertion from there
[10:37] <Uranellus> kkdw: ;)
[10:38] <ph8> I have the files, it's more the specialist setup - postgresql, ruby etc
[10:38] <ph8> it's not possible to reconfigure that in an hour
[10:38] <ph8> can i skip fsck somehow?
[10:38] <dupin> Ridion : what is the problem
[10:38] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Let me know when your back/available... assuming you're not at present :P
[10:39]  * ddonky moves to the edge of his seat
[10:39] <Ridion> duplin: well it simply keeps restarting during boot from the live disk.
[10:39] <Ridion> dupin*
[10:39] <ubuntung-pino1> ph8: tried a Google and came up with http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-114928.html. Really not sure if it helps. Probably not ;)
[10:40] <Uplink> dupin, primary? ok... and ext2? or ext3?
[10:40] <dupin> Ridion : did you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  and disc integrity?
[10:40] <kelvin911> anyone find that there is a bug in the title bar with openoffice?
[10:40] <Jast98> What's the easiest way to get the Live CD to recognize an existing LVM partion?  Need to get to my data after a failed 6.06 to 8.04 upgrade.
[10:40] <dupin> Uplink ext3
[10:41] <Ridion> the thing boots vista fine
[10:41] <ph8> all relies on me having a cd!
[10:41] <Uplink> dupin, ty
[10:41] <ph8> i'll give it 5 more minutes and try recovery mode
[10:41] <arooni__> DistroJockey, no to which one
[10:41] <ph8> oh wait something happened
[10:41] <ph8> huzzah
[10:41] <BadManiac> ikonia seems it's thoroughly not recommended to run the OS on a raided partition, would you recommend reinstalling ubuntu on a separate disks, and keep the 2 500 sata disks for pure storage?
[10:41] <DistroJockey> arooni, 1st and slightly 2nd :)
[10:41] <dupin> Ridion :Ubuntu disc integrity (check for errors)
[10:42] <ph8> if i'm at a prompt can i stop fsck on reboot?
[10:42] <MrEgg964> Hi all! Is there an issue with cifs mounting on Hardy? The reason I'm asking is because one of my mounts just doesn't work anymore since I've upgraded :(
[10:42] <do0fy> hey hows it going, i wana print a photo, but i bought a couple different types of photopaper from the store so it seems, are ppl aware what 190gm/m2 means
[10:42] <dupin> Uplink : it is O.K.
[10:42] <DistroJockey> arooni, seen too many people have grief with upgrades
[10:42] <arooni__> DistroJockey, why do you say no to first one
[10:42] <DistroJockey> ^
[10:42] <arooni__> historically?  or this distro
[10:43] <DistroJockey> arooni, this distro
[10:43] <arooni__> DistroJockey, how long is gutsy supported for
[10:43] <DistroJockey> oops, arooni__ ^
[10:43] <arooni__> i'm pretty happy with gutsy
[10:43] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: ?
[10:43] <Jast98> Does anyone know antying about working with LVM?
[10:43] <Carbonflux> has anyone had any display problem with Thunderbird in 8.04?
[10:44] <DistroJockey> arooni__, till April 2009 I believe
[10:44] <Carbonflux> its removing all the decorations and maximizing itself on one montior
[10:44] <arooni__> DistroJockey, so uprading isnt going to get beetter is it
[10:44] <Carbonflux> I can't even move
[10:44] <arooni__> i mean its gonna suck but i have to do it sometime?
[10:44] <Carbonflux> it, this is a clean install too
[10:44] <DistroJockey> arooni__, 18 months from October 2007
[10:44] <moon`> brb reboot
[10:44] <arooni__> DistroJockey, define supported
[10:44] <Imaginal> How do I make items in the window list at the bottom of the screen pulse when there is an update? (pidgin?)
[10:44] <Carbonflux> does anyone even use Thunderbird ?
[10:44] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody tell me how to chage icons on my Ubuntu?
[10:44] <Carbonflux> heh
[10:44] <vaio> After editing .bash_profile, do I need to reboot or can I type a command and make the changes immediately?
[10:45] <dupin> arooni__ :geting security updates
[10:45] <Carbonflux> maybe using Thunderbird is my mistake
[10:45] <ubuntung-pino1> Does anyone know if a Windows installation can be carried on *after* Hardy?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i use thunderbird on ubuntu
[10:45] <DistroJockey> arooni__, supported as in security patches I guess
[10:45] <end-user> Carbonflux: I know! They are getting less and less Linux friendly
[10:45] <Carbonflux> heh
[10:45] <kkdw> just do bash vaio
[10:45] <arooni__> DistroJockey, so what should i ddo
[10:45] <kkdw> that restarts it
[10:45] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, any problems with 8.04 ?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> not yet
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i just put it on
[10:45] <kkdw> or is that what you meant by reboot
[10:45] <Jast98> Can anyone help with an apparent LVM problem?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i didnt like evolution
[10:46] <DistroJockey> arooni__, if your system works and does what you want it too, leave it be :)
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> couldnt set it up
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, have you added a account yet ?
[10:46] <tom____> hey guys one time my computer powered down incorrectly, and when it booted back up the hard disk space was nearly all taken up.
[10:46] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 :yes,bit you will have to reinstall grub
[10:46] <vaio> kkdw i mean without rebooting the pc
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> i ahve
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> have
[10:46] <FicaBlok38> ﻿Can somebody tell me how to chage icons on my Ubuntu?
[10:46] <kkdw> yes type bash
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, and no display problems ?
[10:46] <tom____> only there isn't actually anything on there
[10:46] <end-user> They took out movemail, they don't import mbox files from the import tool (you have to move them manually) and it can't even import vcard address books, while at the same time offering an option to attach vcards to your emails
[10:46] <tom____> any ideas
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> i used the wizard
[10:46] <vaio> okay
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> nope
[10:46] <kkdw> that restarts the bash
[10:46] <DistroJockey> arooni__, atleast until 8.04.1 :)
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> but i have made my fonts bigger
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, do you have more then one monitor ?
[10:46] <ubuntung-pino1> dupin: have u ever tried that and worked?
[10:46] <arooni__> DistroJockey, whats that
[10:46] <kkdw> or open another terminal :)
[10:46] <Ridion> dupin: done an MD5 check, it's all good. Selected Check CD for defects at the boot menu, it loads the kernal then the splashy screen or whatever and reboots after about 5 seconds of loading
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> just one
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, are you using compiz fusion at all ?
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> still new to this linux think
[10:47] <DistroJockey> arooni__, an update release they scheduled
[10:47] <Carbonflux> well, you are helping me :)
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> not sure about fusion
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, it seems like my problem might be more then one monitor
[10:47] <BlueDevil> where do I report bugs related to the ubuntu.com webpage?
[10:47] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 : not with Hardy,but yes and it worked
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, do you have desktop effects turned on ?
[10:47] <Carbonflux> wiggling windows and stuff ?
[10:47] <arooni__> DistroJockey, to make upgrading easier?
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> had ubuntu on for 3 days now never used linux
[10:48] <end-user> BlueDevil: go to launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:48] <FicaBlok38> hiii
[10:48] <Jazman_brewer> hardy is ok
[10:48] <dupin> Ridion : it sound like something is not right
[10:48] <Jazman_brewer> still a lot diff
[10:48] <FicaBlok38> Jazman_brewer: can you help me?
[10:48] <end-user> BlueDevil: oops sorry!
[10:48] <Ridion> I worked that out myself
[10:48] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, well, 8.04 is getting a lot of press, it might be a break thru distro that can effect the windows desktop market, maybe
[10:48] <Ridion> I've tried with 4 distros
[10:48] <DistroJockey> arooni, not sure about that. I just read they usually have a 04.1 for the LTS
[10:48] <Ridion> they work on desktops but not on my lappy
[10:48] <moon`> hey I just got an error while loading that says 'The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet". and it's asking if I want to delete the applet from the configuration
[10:48] <moon`> yay or nay?
[10:48] <arooni__> DistroJockey, whens that coming out
[10:49] <ubuntung-pino1> dupin: a'right.. I'm trying to look for HOWTO reinstall grub b4 doing anything.. care to share some if u know of any? thanks :)
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> its taken me a while whish files would self install of h/d
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> on win now
[10:49] <DistroJockey> arooni__, looking for that info...
[10:49] <end-user> BlueDevil: Forum Feedback & Help http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48
[10:49] <dupin> Ridion : if you still have iso download same version with torrent and point download to the folder where your iso is
[10:49] <FicaBlok38> arooni, can you help me?
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> plus i got hardy installed in win xp
[10:50] <Jazman_brewer> to much to learn
[10:50] <Ridion> even if the md5s match up you recon that's worth doing?
[10:50] <dupin> Ridion : torrent will just check your iso for errors Bur it on lower possible speed
[10:50] <tony55> moon if yiu only have 1 user account setup yes delete it
[10:50] <Jazman_brewer> ok what prog can i uses instead of win amp
[10:50] <FicaBlok38> dupin:
[10:51] <Jazman_brewer> or nero
[10:51] <moon`> tony55: ty
[10:51] <dupin> FicaBlok38 ?
[10:51] <FicaBlok38> dupin: can you help me?
[10:51] <FicaBlok38> ﻿i don`t know how to change icons on my ubuntu
[10:51] <Jazman_brewer> kia ora
[10:51] <Carbonflux> I am really beginning to hate google heh
[10:52] <Jazman_brewer> try system apperance fica
[10:52] <tony55> if icon is on desktop just right click it you should see in there where you can change icon
[10:52] <kelvin911> all the font in hardy are so thick
[10:52] <DistroJockey> just found a nice link (might be worth looking):  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-924db28d16be5af5b6120b06873de2a8be5c2bd9
[10:52] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Well, if you are looking for something deeper than Rhythmbox for music, Amarok is popular
[10:52] <kelvin911> how to change it back to how it was???
[10:52] <Carbonflux> Does Anyone know why some force is removing all the decorations from my Thunderbird window and maximizing on one screen ?
[10:52] <Carbonflux> this only happens in 8.04
[10:52] <kelvin911> what font does original theme uses???
[10:52] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub   sorry for waiting
[10:53] <Jazman_brewer> what about nero
[10:53] <Jazman_brewer> and photoshop elements
[10:53] <Imaginal> Silly question, what goes in ~/Templates ?
[10:53] <Carbonflux> its really annoying
[10:53] <Carbonflux> I am going to have to stop using thunderbird because of it
[10:53] <Carbonflux> I don't see another email problem around either
[10:54] <Carbonflux> they all seem to suck
[10:54] <Carbonflux> need a blackberry to check my desktop email I guess
[10:54] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: well as for photoshop, I guess all I can recommend is The Gimp. For Nero, I guess it sort of depends on your CD burning needs. I mean, much of it is very intuitive. For example, Windows, you needed to use Nero to burn the .iso, while here you'd just right click the file and burn to disc.
[10:54] <Carbonflux> its got to be a problem with Twinview
[10:54] <Carbonflux> its the weirdest thing I have seen
[10:54] <Carbonflux> only thunderbird is effected too
[10:55] <kelvin911> hello anyone can answer my font problem?
[10:55] <Carbonflux> I checked all the settings in CCSM too
[10:55] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: For audio CD's, you can either simply use your given music player, or Brasero Disc Burning
[10:56] <Carbonflux> it just removes all the decorations and maximizes the window in allways on top mode, only thunderbird
[10:56] <Jazman_brewer> got brasero
[10:56] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Brasero is under Sound and video
[10:56] <Jazman_brewer> what about dvd shrink
[10:56] <Carbonflux> so, what does everyone else in the channel use for email ?
[10:56] <Carbonflux> clearly not Thunderbird
[10:57] <Twim4> Carbonflux, webmail =)
[10:57] <dupin> Carbonflux :Opera
[10:57] <Carbonflux> thats not a bad idea heh
[10:57] <Carbonflux> ah ok
[10:57] <Carbonflux> does
[10:57] <Carbonflux> Opera have a client ?
[10:57] <Carbonflux> ( sorry for the extra return )
[10:57] <Jazman_brewer> i like fire fox but some oages the text is small
[10:58] <Imaginal> Is ~/Templates important? It looks useless
[10:58] <Carbonflux> I have never seen a bug like this
[10:58] <dupin> Carbonflux :In Opera email client is built in
[10:58] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Sorry :( I must admit I don't do a ton of burning myself. However, typing dvd shrink in Add/Remove brought up a program called Dvd95 converter - does that seem to have some utilities you could use?
[10:58] <Carbonflux> Thunderbird is a buggy piece of shit imo now
[10:58] <dupin> Carbonflux Chat,torent........
[10:58] <Jazman_brewer> it does
[10:58] <DistroJockey> Imaginal, it's empty here. Why are you woried about it?
[10:58] <Carbonflux> dupin, is it biased towards webmail ?
[10:58] <jussio1> !language | Carbonflux
[10:58] <Carbonflux> lol ok
[10:58] <Jazman_brewer> this linux has prog for every win stuff
[10:59] <dupin> Carbonflux :I never use it
[10:59] <Imaginal> DistroJockey: OCD. If it is there, it must have a purpose. If it doesn't, I want it gone :)
[10:59] <Twim4> how can i set the opera for mail client?
[10:59] <Twim4> set up*
[10:59] <end-user> Carbonflux: I know it is a little frustrating. You may want to check out Balsa or Claws. Balsa is very gnome-integrated, if you are into aesthetics
[10:59] <Carbonflux> s**t is not one of those non family words tho jussio1 but thanks for stopping me anyway, I was getting frustrated
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to change the screen brightness sensitivity? 1 function+down lowers it from 100 to 50%
[11:00] <Carbonflux> end-user, ah thanks, great ideas
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> The next lowers it to 0
[11:00] <DistroJockey> Imaginal, fair enough :) I did try and see if it was Openoffice related, but it doesn't appear to be
[11:00] <dupin> Twim4 :Just install Opera and you will find e-mail client under tools
[11:00] <Carbonflux> I just feel like there are no good email clients anymore
[11:00] <Carbonflux> I suspect its because its all going mobile
[11:01] <Carbonflux> I don't want to write one because I don't really need it that much either
[11:01] <end-user> Carbonflux: np, I really liked balsa except they don't have outbound HTML emails. That is a make or break for a lot of people, I realize. It takes inbound just fine, though.
[11:01] <Carbonflux> webmail might just be best
[11:01] <Carbonflux> ah thats fine with me
[11:01] <Carbonflux> I never send HTML mails
[11:01] <Carbonflux> to risky
[11:02] <Imaginal> DistroJockey: Thanks for the pondering. Enough validation to rm for me.
[11:02] <DistroJockey> Imaginal, yeah, I'm sure it will come back if it's really needed ;)
[11:03] <laughzilla> w00t!  i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.x via Synaptic Package Manager.  so far so good ... still testing it out.
[11:03] <Carbonflux> ( I can't believe that guy gave me that family friendly thing over s**t tho, that is very annoying, I am going afk before I have banned from this channel because it making me really mad  )
[11:03] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I hope that one works for you - yeah, they do cover a ton of bases. And Add/Remove is really friendly with experimenting with programs, I mean, you can just sample a ton of programs really fast. Don't be afraid to try out a bunch at once to see what you are into, say, for example, you wanted to compare the audio players
[11:03] <mihai__> a
[11:03] <Carbonflux> I hate censorship when its just for the sake of being a jerk
[11:04] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, they are pretty adamant about no HTML in Balsa, heh - lot of people would probably like the option, but the devs of it stick to their guns.
[11:04] <Carbonflux> well, I find it really bad that email clients default to showing html end-user
[11:04] <Carbonflux> its a huge security problem
[11:04] <Twim4> dupin, thx ))
[11:04] <dupin> Twim4 : np
[11:04] <Carbonflux> I would never send html email to a actual friend heh
[11:04] <Carbonflux> to many issues
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> it looks that way
[11:05] <kelvin911> hello?  anyone have the font problem?
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> but also free stuff no ned for patches so i dont pay for it
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> just got to get wine going on a few programs
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> then goodbye mr gates
[11:05] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, I guess that's a bad habit of mine - although I'm cautious to people who I don't know the preferences of. Then I default to plain-text. of course, Balsa has a bunch of safeguards for incoming, with the defaults leaning to no
[11:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Looks like I'll have to give up. Thank you for all the help though
[11:06] <Jazman_brewer> good firewall and anti virus
[11:06] <Carbonflux> end-user, its the preview window that infects most machines, because to click on something to mark it spam allows it to run stuff in the preview
[11:07] <dupin> kelvin911 :try in system<preferences>appearance
[11:07] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: yeah, I have to admit, I haven't tested wine fully. There are some great kill a few minutes games, but not too many epics here.
[11:08] <end-user> Carbonflux: Oh really? what if you have the preview window off by default?
[11:08] <kelvin911> dupin what was the original font?
[11:08] <kelvin911> i didnt change any setting after the update, but the fonts are thick and ugly now
[11:08] <Carbonflux> end-user, I have not personally seen a email client that defaults to off, but ya, turning it off is the first thing I do
[11:08] <DistroJockey> end-user, should be fine unless you open the message
[11:08] <end-user> Carbonflux: I find that intriguing though. I could have sworn the settings seemed to affect the preview the same as they did when I double clicked an email
[11:08] <kelvin911> what is your font setting overthere?
[11:08] <kelvin911> is it 96 dots per inch?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> kelvin911, usually 96, yeah
[11:09] <dupin> kelvin911 : sorry I don´t follow you Do you mean in Opera or in Ubuntu system
[11:09] <kelvin911> font = sans?"
[11:09] <kelvin911> in ubuntu
[11:09] <end-user> DistroJockey, Carbonflux: Hmm, well I'll bear that in mind. luckily, I haven't gotten any spam yet, heh. I'm very cautious about ending up on lists (juggling a ton of email addresses, etc.)
[11:10] <dupin> kelvin911 yes
[11:10] <gjamc> hi, is ubuntu hardy wedged?
[11:10] <kelvin911> after i update from 7.10 to 8.04 fonts are f up
[11:10] <gjamc> I mean, I dist-upgraded and it removed gnome-panel :-/
[11:10] <dupin> kelvin911 : I know but language!
[11:10] <kelvin911> dupin: u have the same problem?
[11:11]  * DistroJockey adds another reason to the list of why I don't upgrade (damn, this list is getting long)
[11:11] <kelvin911> i shouldnt upgrade
[11:11] <end-user> DistroJockey: So do you wait a few weeks first?
[11:11] <kelvin911> now maple doesnt work
[11:11] <DistroJockey> end-user, nope, I do a clean install
[11:11] <kelvin911> how to change it back?
[11:11] <kelvin911> or i need clean install?
[11:12] <Carbonflux> end-user, I use ctrl-U to open them, which is show source on most linux clients I have used
[11:12] <dupin> kelvin911 : Not right now,because I didn´t upgrade but I know that from expirience
[11:12] <Carbonflux> unless I know the person personally
[11:13] <end-user> DistroJockey: Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, I've only been using since Feisty, but when Gutsy came out, I upgraded, then did clean, and the difference was quite substantial. I have to admit, even with my clean install this time, I have a few problems.
[11:13] <DistroJockey> but I do have spare hard drives and time and no special programs that need to be installed
[11:13] <Carbonflux> is jussi01 a bot ?
[11:13] <dupin> kelvin911 : wait and that will be fixed by updates ( I hope )
[11:13] <DistroJockey> end-user, with Hardy?
[11:13] <end-user> Carbonflux: Oh, sorry If I was rambling on about clients before, sounds like you've probably used more than me heh
[11:13] <name1> hi
[11:13] <jussio1> Carbonflux: I most certainly am not :)
[11:13] <dupin> kelvin911 :you  can not downgrde
[11:13] <Carbonflux> end-user, no, its interesting listening to your views
[11:14] <dupin> *downgrade
[11:14] <Carbonflux> jussi01, do you use a mail client in 8.04? have you had any problems with decorations being removed ?
[11:14] <neil_d> help! I have a nvidia, I have installed nvidia-glx-new, enabled the driver with 'Hardware drivers' manager, but the best resolution I can get is still 800x600 :( what am I doing wrong ?
[11:14] <end-user> DistroJockey: Yes, just I suppose the same resolution stuff I go through everytime, got through it ok. A few sound issues, but I suppose I had them before, and just kind of crossed my fingers that they'd be fixed this time around (but the fix was simple once I saw how)
[11:15] <jussio1> Carbonflux: I use Kmail on kde. And no, I have no issues with it.
[11:15] <gjamc> uff, ubuntu dist upgrade status back to normal :-P
[11:16] <gjamc> I hate temporary problems :|
[11:16] <name1> so I was installing 8.04 and I have the famous wmp11v27.  but it locks up.  so when I take the card out it loads and installs fine.  when I put it back in after instalation it no longer loads.  am I screwed?
[11:16] <name1> pm if possible.
[11:16] <Carbonflux> jussi01, thanks, I was just curious if you were more then a channel cop, I was thinking kmail might be a option for me, I am having real problems with thunderbird.
[11:16] <DistroJockey> end-user, yeah, I'm finding things that worked fine in 7.10 don't in 8.04. So if 7.10 works, I suggest staying there for now. (just my opinion)
[11:16] <d_avid> pffrrrt
[11:16] <end-user> Carbonflux: Do you think Gnome is a little...picky? (trying to soften that a bit) about letting mail use the system tray? I mean, I appreciate alltray but it is kind of a pain with desktop effects, etc. Just seems like they should let the email program use the tray if so many users would like it to
[11:17] <Carbonflux> I just wish i could find someone else that is having these Thunderbird issues
[11:17] <d_avid> installing ubuntu on a m670 MSI laptop.. this laptop is hell.. I tell you.. HELL!...
[11:17] <d_avid> tho.. thankgod for ubuntu's option to install without networking
[11:17]  * moon` pats d_avid 
[11:17] <name1> so I was installing 8.04 and I have the famous wmp11v27.  but it locks up.  so when I take the card out it loads and installs fine.  when I put it back in after instalation it no longer loads. any ideas?
[11:17] <moon`> there there
[11:17] <Carbonflux> end-user, its part of a movement to challenge windows, be more windows then windows, its too like to stop it imo :)
[11:17] <d_avid> thnx
[11:17] <dupin> d_avid :let it burn
[11:17] <moon`> :)
[11:17] <DistroJockey> d_avid, using the Alternate CD?
[11:17] <d_avid> yes
[11:18] <jussio1> Carbonflux: heh. Im kinda busy so aften dont have time. Thing is kmail integrates very nicely into kde, so thats why I use it. Im not a big mail client user though, so probably best to keep asking here, or even #ubuntu-offtopic might be good, if you are looking for discussion, not support.
[11:18] <moon`> anyone have any suggestions for a firewall prog besides firestarter, or is firestarter a pretty decent one?
[11:19] <Carbonflux> jussi01, I am having serious problems with something directly related to Ubuntu 8.04 specificly, you sure had time to censor my language, anyway, thanks, I might try kmail.
[11:19] <end-user> DistroJockey: Yeah, I have to admit, I'm still in a phase where I switch back and forth between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but at some point I'd like to settle down (lol). Thank god for /home partition. I guess what really bugs me most right now in Gutsy will probably be wrapped up soon, it is the Firefox flash bug - I don't know what the scoop there is, but I cross my fingers for when Gnash replaces flash completely, because, I was just in Kubuntu about a 
[11:20] <d_avid> yea... the alternate CD is pretty cool.. all is well for now.. I tried to install winXP, opensuse, ubuntu (livecd)... none of them work.. even win98 doesn't run on the laptop..
[11:20] <Jazman_brewer> isnt firestarter just a firewall config
[11:20] <Carbonflux> OS is about people being nice to each other and helping each other with a open mind
[11:20] <dupin> moon` : if you are runing Hardy you have ufw
[11:20] <d_avid> so now the alternate CD.. looks good uptill now :)
[11:20] <end-user> Carbonflux: How do you feel about Kmail?
[11:20] <Carbonflux> I need to try it
[11:20] <dupin> moon :Uncomplicated Firewall)
[11:21] <Jazman_brewer> is kamil better than thunderbird
[11:21] <end-user> Carbonflux: (I meant to add, when you've used KDE)
[11:21] <Carbonflux> I have gotten kde base all installed in 8.04 and its working
[11:21] <d_avid> (obviously just winvista runs.. and I refuse to even boot into it)
[11:21] <Carbonflux> end-user, i install gnome first and then pull in what kde apps i like and also install kcontrol
[11:21] <DistroJockey> end-user, yep, good choice with the /home being separate. As for me, flash works fine with the  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:21] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, I don't like mixing them up (just a personal hangup of mine, I know ;) but I loved Kmail on Kubuntu, it was simply perfect for me
[11:21] <Carbonflux> end-user, kcontrol lets me match the colors to gnome somewaht
[11:22] <Carbonflux> end-user, well, thats good to hear, I will try it right now then
[11:22] <name1> can anyone help  me with a wmp11 and 8.04 install question?
[11:22] <lgierth> hi, can i burn the iso-image of 8.04 to a dvd instead of a cd?
[11:22] <DistroJockey> end-user, I don't mix either, Gnome for me
[11:22] <Jazman_brewer> try it lg
[11:22] <Carbonflux> name1, you are trying to run it under wine ?
[11:22] <lgierth> Jazman_brewer, okay :)
[11:23] <name1> wine?
[11:23] <Carbonflux> what do you mean by wmp11 ?
[11:23] <Carbonflux> name1, what do you mean by wmp11 ?
[11:23] <lgierth> Carbonflux, windows media player 11
[11:23] <Jazman_brewer> windows media player 11]
[11:23] <d_avid> lgierth: there is a DVD install iso.. I think
[11:23] <DistroJockey> windows media player 11
[11:23] <Carbonflux> thats what I though
[11:23] <DistroJockey> heh
[11:23] <Carbonflux> so, thus the question
[11:23] <Carbonflux> are you trying to run it in wine?
[11:23] <DistroJockey> why!?
[11:24] <name1> when I try to install 8/04 with my linksys card in the computer it wont load or install, so I take it out and it does both fine.  after instaqlling I put back in the card and it wont load.
[11:24] <Jazman_brewer> lg do the dvd and see if boots
[11:24] <name1> no wine
[11:24] <Jazman_brewer> start in cd rom in bios
[11:24] <d_avid> lgierth: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[11:24] <Carbonflux> how does wmp11 and 8.04 relate to each other name1 ?
[11:24] <name1> thats what im asking.
[11:24] <end-user> DistroJockey: I am so torn between the two. I really love them both, but when I'm on one, I tend to stick with it. Although, and maybe this is blasphemy, and frankly I haven't tried much either way, but it seemed like KDE handled the few GTK/Gnome apps a little cleaner than vice-versa. I guess I'm comparing it to back in Feisty, when I tried to put a bunch of KDE games on Gnome, and it just wasn't right.
[11:24] <name1> the wireless card wont let 8.04 load.
[11:24] <name1> but when I take it out it loads fine.
[11:24] <lgierth> d_avid, thanks, i'll try it if the cd->dvd doesnt work
[11:25] <Carbonflux> name1, well there are two basic ways to run windows apps in ubuntu, if that is what you want.
[11:25] <Jazman_brewer> forget wmp 11 its crap i use win amp in win
[11:25] <Carbonflux> when you take what out name1 ?
[11:25] <Jazman_brewer> but will try amarok
[11:25] <Carbonflux> name1, what does wmp11 mean ?
[11:25] <d_avid> amarok is cool
[11:25] <name1> im talking about my wireless card itsa wmp11
[11:25] <Carbonflux> lol
[11:26] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I haven't tried Amarok in Gnome, but it is simply a fantastic music player.
[11:26] <Carbonflux> name1, you got everyone talking about media players heh ;)
[11:26] <nainef> anyone else having slow responses from google?
[11:26] <venil> hi, how do i add dns lookup ip on ubuntu server??
[11:26] <name1> sorry.
[11:26] <DistroJockey> end-user, I understand. I use KDE now and then but keep coming back to Gnome.
[11:26] <Jazman_brewer> well i d/l tomorrow when my isp wont shap me
[11:26] <Carbonflux> name1, nothing to be sorry about, its just a funny thing about jargon, I don't know much about wireless but someone else around here might :)
[11:26] <d_avid> kde has more options... but you have to know more about it.. be more gentile :)
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> gnome or kde which is better
[11:27] <name1> so my wireless card, wmp11 stops the load process when I am trying to boot.
[11:27] <end-user> DistroJockey: this may be cliche, but it is such a Zen desktop. Clean, direct. I really love the look
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> for a windows user
[11:27] <Carbonflux> kde4 seems kind of good looking tho
[11:27] <d_avid> gnome is more easy I think...
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> may have to put on kubuntu
[11:27] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, KDE is more Windows like :)
[11:27] <name1> anyone have any ideas?  or should I just buy a diff wireless card
[11:28] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: oops - yeah, what DistroJockey said :)
[11:28] <lgierth> Jazman_brewer, d_avid, cd->dvd seems to work, thanks
[11:28] <Jazman_brewer> well i may to get kubuntoo
[11:28] <Carbonflux> name1, there has to be a reason, did you try searching the ubuntu forums ?
[11:28] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:28] <name1> yeah,  Im browsing them now.  its hell though
[11:28] <name1> haha
[11:28] <olaff> lo all, just need some advice, i have gutsy running on this machine, i want to upgrade to hardy, but i'd like to format my current partion and install over the top. Id like to reinstall rather than upgrade, but id quite like my user settings and documents to be saved. Whats the best way to do this?? thanks guys
[11:28] <Carbonflux> name1, there is a dir called /var/log
[11:28] <DistroJockey> I'd advise against KDE4 though (for now)
[11:28] <au_> how can i report bug in alsamixer?
[11:28] <au_> how can i report bug in gnome-alsamixer?
[11:29] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I will say this, though, the simplified interface of GNOME might be a nice introduction for a bit, to Linux, and make you appreciate some of the extra settings available in KDE
[11:29] <jussio1> !bug | au_
[11:29] <moon`> anyone here using an x-fi card?
[11:29] <Carbonflux> name1, there are several files in there that might help you out, you can view them using the system log viewer in the the administration menu
[11:29] <yacc> Hmmm, anyone using taxbird on Ubuntu?
[11:29] <inertial> so if i have an intel processor without IVT/vmx support, what kind of virtualisation can i do?
[11:29] <djpate> anyone can help me with a weird conky issue on hardy
[11:30] <Jazman_brewer> ok will try kubuntu latter can have it just boot of cd to try it
[11:30] <Carbonflux> name1, those logs should at least tell you how its failing once you get used to reading them, its not a good solution but there should be a message in one them when it fails and that should give you clue at least where to start
[11:30] <andres> inertial: xen (only paravirtualized guests), virtualbox, vmware
[11:30] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Exactly - I wish I'd sampled both a little more. CD's are cheap - heck, might even want to give Xubuntu a spin
[11:30] <moon`> oo, sorry dupin got sidetracked, where do I find ufw?
[11:30] <d_avid> olaff: I think most of them will be found in your /home dir
[11:30] <name1> ok.  Ill run with that and maybe make a post on the forums.
[11:30] <name1> much appreciated
[11:30] <moon`> I mean I know I already have it but where can I look at the settings on it
[11:31] <Jazman_brewer> looks like gooodb ye wiondows soon
[11:31] <inertial> andres: i was under the impression that VT was what paravirtualisation was implemented with.. but i might have it backwards..
[11:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, you can always use   sudo tasksel   to install other WM's/Desktop environments
[11:31] <Carbonflux> name1, sorry I can't do more, you might hang around and ask again, lots of wireless issue pass thru here, its a very common issue
[11:31] <mrthundercleese4> yacc what is taxbird?
[11:31] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to change the screen brightness sensitivity? 1 function+down lowers it from 100 to 50%. The next takes it to 0%
[11:31] <name1> ok
[11:31] <Jazman_brewer> sudo whats that
[11:31] <marcozzzzz> salve
[11:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, that's how you get root type access
[11:31] <yacc> mrthundercleese4: the German electronic tax filing app.
[11:31] <andres> inertial: no, its used to implement support for non paravirtualized guests in xen.
[11:32] <djpate> anyone can help me with a weird conky issue on hardy
[11:32] <yacc> mrthundercleese4: And just now I wonder if it's just a packaging problem with Ubuntu, ...
[11:32] <marcozzzzz> I can't execute the sudo command
[11:32] <Uranellus> hello, I'm having problems connecting a secondary display to my notebook .. while cloning works find, expanding the display is not possible. I had this problem before with opensuse .. the reason is easily seen when looking at the output of xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1680 ... I used to get around this by adding Virtual 3360 1680 to my xorg.conf .. so I tried doing so, adding that line to the Screen se
[11:32] <venil> how do i add dns ip address?? command line
[11:32] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: sudo stands for "superuser do" it will prompt you for your password afterwords.
[11:32] <andres> inertial: but kvm works only with paravirtualization support
[11:32] <end-user> i think
[11:32] <Jazman_brewer> well this is new too  me i havent used a dos base sytem for over 10 years
[11:32] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, what error do you get?
[11:32] <end-user> ...thats what it means
[11:32] <marcozzzzz> I've read that i need to edit /etc/hosts file, but I need the permission
[11:32] <Jazman_brewer> is k3m any good
[11:33] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, yes, you will need to boot into recovery mode
[11:33] <mrthundercleese4> Jazman_brewer: it's not dos based it is entirely different
[11:33] <ApOgEE-work> what is the device manager in ubuntu hardy?
[11:33] <marcozzzzz> sudo: unable to resolve host marco-laptop
[11:33] <inertial> andres: so i'll try using virt-manager to install a paravirtualised xen guest
[11:33] <Jazman_brewer> need to reboot win bw back
[11:33] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[11:33] <andres> inertial: No idea how well it works with virt-manager ;-) Always done it via console...
[11:34] <ApOgEE-work> like in gutsy, i have hal-device-manager
[11:34] <ApOgEE-work> how about in hardy?
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> 127.0.1.1 marco-laptop.cagher
[11:34] <inertial> andres: ok, i'll give it a shot.. i'm really upset that my processor doesn't have VT, i thought all intel core 2 duo processors did
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[11:34] <FloodBot2> marcozzzzz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <ApOgEE-work> my friend just installed hardy, then he just wanna see his device manager
[11:35] <alado2> anybody know how i can get the media keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[11:35] <marcozzzzz> that's my hosts file
[11:35] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, put localhost after marco-laptop.cagher
[11:35] <ApOgEE-work> but we couldn't find it
[11:35] <yacc> Hmmm, libgeier (that's the underlying communication library) seems to be-out-of-date in Hardy :(
[11:35] <andres> inertial: yes, there are some series (although not many) that do not have vt
[11:35] <Uplink> ok, IM on Ubuntu now
[11:35] <andres> inertial: but perhaps you only didnt enable it in the bios?
[11:35] <Uplink> ikonia: Im on with an RJ-45 calbe :]
[11:35] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, so it looks like   127.0.1.1  marco-laptop.cagher  localhost
[11:36] <marcozzzzz> DistroJockey: so --> marco-laptop.cagher localhst?
[11:36] <marcozzzzz> *localhost
[11:36] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, nods
[11:36] <inertial> andres: nah unfortunately my processor, the e2180 does not have VT
[11:37] <Flynsarmy> Does anyone know how to disable mouse wheeling on desktop scrolling to the next desktop?
[11:38] <Filled-Void> Is there a web based alternative for Netmeeting . I tried EKiga but I think I have to tinker with my router for it to work. Just trying to use a conference feature so multiple people can contribute at the same time and see whatever anyone types.
[11:38] <ihancioglu> Hello , I am using DELL Inspiron 6400 with Ati X1400 . I have installed ubuntu 8.04 and my graphic card driver is fine. Also native linux games working perfect. But If I try to install or play windows game I really get pain. Do you have a guide about wine installation on ATi graphic cards? (fine tunes, tweaks or something)
[11:38] <Uplink> ikonia: u there bro?
[11:38] <d_avid> flynsarmy: which screen manager?
[11:38] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: New to ubuntu. screen manager?
[11:39] <enquest> in 8.04/firefox all the flash is blokked... How do i turn this of
[11:39] <smmagic> hehe..konversation
[11:40] <d_avid> flynsarmy: you didn't install compiz or anything?
[11:40] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: I'm on hardy. compiz is installed automatically
[11:41] <Uplink> how do i install ndiswrapper?
[11:42] <_Andrew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Twim4> !ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Uplink> ty :D
[11:43] <oly-> hi, anyone hit problems with java in openoffice on hardy, i have 3 options in the list but when i tick one it is unticked when i return to the options page
[11:43] <d_avid> flyns	army: it is?
[11:43] <oly-> this basically means i can no longer used openoffice dbase
[11:43] <oly-> any idea on how i can fix this ?
[11:44] <umbrualbert> Hi all...I cant access smb shares after hardy upgarde
[11:44] <Twim4> umbrualbert, check folder permission
[11:45] <mrthundercleese4> is anything in hardy heron worth the upgrade?
[11:45] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, same problem here
[11:45] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: I thoguht so? anyway compiz isinstalled on here
[11:45] <Uplink> can someone help me install ubuntu please?
[11:45] <alado2> anybody know how i can get the media keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[11:45] <umbrualbert> ﻿Twim4: which folder permission?...I can access the share from a winblows machine
[11:45] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, smb:// got broken. Not looked into it much yet
[11:45] <venil> Uplink: what is the problem?
[11:46] <umbrualbert> ﻿DistroJockey:.....﻿smb:// got broken?...This is essencial from daily work?
[11:46] <Uplink> my HDD looks like this [ dev/hda1 98.77 GB                            ] [ free space  13.02 GB  ]
[11:47] <Uplink> and im a noob at this
[11:47] <umbrualbert> ﻿DistroJockey: -> Work Around?
[11:47] <venil> Uplink: thats fine, you wont get any c: or similar on linux
[11:47] <Uplink> Im on prepare disk space
[11:47] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, well, I would like to have it back (as it worked fine in Gutsy) but I havn't had time to look into it
[11:47] <yacc> Hmm, that's SO funny. Package broken and nobody even acknowledged the bug :(
[11:48] <umbrualbert> Is there a workaround for the SMB: share problem?
[11:48] <Uplink> lol venil, i noticed
[11:48] <mrthundercleese4> uplink you should check oth the forums they have walk throughs
[11:48] <yacc> At least Debian has an updated packages.
[11:48] <Uplink> i did but non of em have what i want
[11:48] <yacc> I mean it's nothing time critical, I mean the tax office will love us for filling late :)
[11:48] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, I agree that it is a very major failing that it does not work
[11:49] <Uplink> i need help with my installation please
[11:49] <Uranellus> ﻿I'm having problems connecting a secondary display to my notebook .. while cloning works find, expanding the display is not possible. I had this problem before with opensuse .. the reason is easily seen when looking at the output of xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1680 ...
[11:49] <Uranellus> ﻿I used to get around this by adding Virtual 3360 1680 to my xorg.conf .. so I tried doing so, adding that line to the Screen section .. but upon the next startup of x I got in some sort of "configure your screen" mode ..
[11:50] <marco> also this way it don't works
[11:50] <Uplink> please help, im lost at this
[11:51] <marco> should I try to replace 127.0.0.1 localhost with 127.0.0.1 marco-laptop?
[11:51] <jellulabo> How do I monitor outgoing network traffic?
[11:51] <umbrualbert> Has anyone used SMB on Hardy other than myself and ﻿DistroJockey:?...Is it working?
[11:51] <DistroJockey> marco, yep, can't hurt
[11:51] <andres> jellulabo: wireshark
[11:51] <andres> umbrualbert: yes
[11:52] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: what version are you installing?
[11:52] <Flynsarmy> umbrualbert: I smb onto a windows pc and it works fine
[11:52] <andres> umbrualbert: Successfully, both via nautilus and mount -t cifs
[11:52] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=smb+hardy&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=
[11:52] <Uplink> 7.04
[11:53] <Uplink> Im on a liveCd right now... connected with a cable
[11:53] <Twim4> i just installed a 8.04 server version, and the samba works perfektly
[11:53] <knoeki> hello, I just updated to 8.04, having an issue with X. apparently, the updater removed my NVidia driver, breaking my whole system. and now, I can't find the legacy nvidia driver in aptitude.
[11:53] <knoeki> any pointers?
[11:53] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 7.04 -  Im on a liveCd right now... connected with a cable
[11:54] <Twim4> knoeki, download the driver from nvidia webpage
[11:54] <Slart> knoeki: they removed the nvidia legacy driver??? seems most unlikely.. hang on
[11:55] <ihancioglu> Do you have a howto install wine with ATI correctly?
[11:55] <knoeki> oh great, now I have to navigate the nvidia site with links -_-'
[11:55] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: are you going to install windows too?
[11:55] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, this link may be more relevant:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/206439
[11:55] <kiongku> hi.. anyone can access sourceforge.net?
[11:56] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: I have windows XP already... and my HDD looks like this [ dev/hda1 98.77 GB                            ] [ free space  13.02 GB  ]
[11:56] <jellulabo> I started having network connection issues a couple of days ago. I've narrorwed the problem down and have hit a wall. When I'm logged into my account on Hardy, system monitor shows 180kbs sending. I've shut everything off and the problem still continues.
[11:56] <Slart> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:56] <DistroJockey> kiongku, nope, it's still dead
[11:56] <knoeki> Slart: well, I dunno if they removed it, but I am unable to find it in aptitude.
[11:56] <andres> jellulabo: use wireshark and analyze what is causing the traffic....
[11:56] <kiongku> DistroJockey, thx.. thought it was on my side
[11:57] <Slart> knoeki: what happens if you run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[11:57] <DistroJockey> kiongku, nope, has been down a while
[11:57] <knoeki> ah, I'll try.
[11:57] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: what size is ur hd
[11:57] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 120GB
[11:57] <Slart> knoeki: and you might want to check that the upgrade didn't disable all the extra repos.. universe etc
[11:57] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to lower screen brightness sensitivity or disable desktop mouse wheel scrolling?
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: well, it's downloading/installing now..
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: let's pray it works :_)
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: okay, done. :_)
[11:58] <Slart> knoeki: whatever floats your boat.. I'll sacrifice a roasted chicken here. .=)
[11:59] <knoeki> hehehe
[11:59] <knoeki> hrm.. I still can't start X, or do I have to reboot again? o.O
[11:59] <Slart> knoeki: well.. I think it requires a restart
[11:59] <knoeki> aha...
[11:59]  * DistroJockey takes the roasted chicken and eats it.
[11:59] <GamingX> What is the best way to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
[11:59] <knoeki> okay, well, brb then.
[12:00] <Slart> hey.. no stealing of the sacrificial chicken =)
[12:00] <magnetron> GamingX: with the update manager
[12:00] <DistroJockey> :(
[12:00] <Slart> GamingX: using the update manager
[12:00] <Twim4> GamingX, sudo apt-get distr-upgrade
[12:00] <marco> now it works
[12:00] <Twim4> dist-upgrade sorry
[12:00] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 120GG
[12:01] <moon`> any recomendations on a good mp3 player?
[12:01] <azuki> moon: amarok
[12:01] <moon`> azuki: danke
[12:01] <Slart> moon`: xmms, songbird, amarok etc etc
[12:01] <magnetron> moon`: rhythmbox
[12:01] <marco> on my laptop the sudo command works with 127.0.0.1 marco-laptop instead of 127.0.0.1 localhost
[12:01] <DistroJockey> moon`, whatever works :)
[12:01] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: I belive all that you need to do is creat two partitions on that free space one as ext 3 and one as swap make the swap file the smaller of the two, as this is basically pagefile
[12:02] <azuki> yay.. ubuntu runs on my laptop
[12:02] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: what about the /root?
[12:02] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: suposedly 8.04 is easier to install
[12:02] <azuki> it's the ONLY os that works!
[12:02] <|atle|> Uplink: would suggest also a /home partition
[12:02] <lucad> hi everyone
[12:02] <azuki> the 8.04 alternate CD is pretty nice
[12:03] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: I dont have blank CD's
[12:03] <kelvin911> how come i everytime start hardy it uses gtf-window decorator?
[12:03] <Uplink> lol
[12:03] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink:you can use flash drives
[12:03] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: how big the partiotions?
[12:03] <marco> kate gives me this error: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-marco" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[12:03] <Uplink> oh really?
[12:03] <Uplink> how! :|
[12:03] <Uplink> i have an 40GB external HDD
[12:03] <mrthundercleese4> i say 1-2 gig swap and the rest as ext3, wxt3 will be your root directory
[12:04] <DistroJockey> marco, my hosts (as what I am running, not sure it's totally right, but it's working): http://pastebin.com/f5e58e2f1
[12:04] <sharkp> I've a problem with hardy
[12:04] <knoeki> okay, so now X works again, but only in 800x600, while I used to have 1400x1050..
[12:04] <Uplink> |atle|: yea? but i dont get it... im like lost with all this
[12:04] <gaminggeek> +
[12:05] <sharkp> In GNOME, I have the login, but appears first a black screen and then a white one
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, Be more specific. You're asking to be eaten with a comment like that.
[12:05] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: go to http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[12:05] <azuki> knoeki: which video card type?
[12:05] <sharkp> menisk, gimme a second!
[12:05] <sharkp> :P
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, :P Never mind.
[12:05] <|atle|> Uplink: /home is just like Documents and settings in Windows
[12:05] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: and read up on the beginer section
[12:05] <lucad> i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2. anyone? pm me
[12:05] <Slart> knoeki: you probably need to configure your x then..
[12:05] <sharkp> menisk, I can use anyway the mouse, or better
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, Do your have an ATI card?
[12:05] <sharkp> i can move it
[12:05] <sharkp> ehm...yes
[12:06] <menisk> sharkp, Have you installed FGLRX?
[12:06] <Uplink> so i need to make 3 partitions on my 13.02 free space?
[12:06] <sharkp> gimme another information... is xorg.conf changed?
[12:06] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: yes
[12:06] <latitu> in LAN, how can i know how many computers are online and by what ip?
[12:06] <menisk> sharkp, Do you want compiz or happy without it?
[12:06] <sharkp> menisk, I've removed after I've tried it
[12:06] <Twim4> all, sourceforge.net is down?
[12:06] <menisk> Yes
[12:06] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: cant the installer do that for me already?
[12:06] <|atle|> Uplink: yes that would be my suggestion
[12:06] <marco> DistroJockey: home.gateway is your network or should I insert usrname.network.gateway usrname
[12:06] <daedra> latitu: nmap 127.0.0.1
[12:06] <knoeki> Slart: NVidia GeForce4 420 Go 32M
[12:06] <sharkp> menisk, I've a radeon hd 2600 XT AGP, I'm not so happy...
[12:06] <Uplink> I mean, how am i going to know what size each partition
[12:06] <|atle|> Uplink: yes it can
[12:07] <daedra> sorry nmap 10.0.0.*
[12:07] <mrthundercleese4> anyone having problems acessing slashdor?
[12:07] <lucad> ﻿i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2. anyone? pm me
[12:07] <smmagic> lets have a contest, who has the worst PC here? :D
[12:07] <menisk> sharkp, what we'll do is shove you on a driver that won't boot compiz then install FGLRX and have compiz. Sound good?
[12:07] <Fogel1497> i do
[12:07] <Slart> smmagic: I have a broken one.. can't get worse than that =)
[12:07] <smmagic> Fogel1497, Specs?
[12:07] <Fogel1497> 667 mhz intel celeron, 256 mb ram, what else do you want?
[12:07] <smmagic> Slart, Workable :P
[12:07] <smmagic> Fogel1497, What kind of gfx
[12:08] <sharkp> menisk, FGLRX doesn't work with new ati agp card, there's a problem with agpgart
[12:08] <Fogel1497> integrated intel graphics
[12:08] <Fogel1497> not sure what version though
[12:08] <umbrualbert> ﻿DistroJockey: you need to install smbclient and smbfs
[12:08] <DistroJockey> marco, for a system not in a "work" type environment, anything is ok I think, but yes, do it as you said
[12:08] <azuki> my wifi shows wireless networks.. but when connecting it fakes that the key is wrong.. which isn't..
[12:08] <knoeki> Slart: haha, the only resolutions listed in xorg.conf is 1400x1050 >.>
[12:08] <|atle|> Uplink: well 7GiB for / , 512MiB for swap and the rest for /home
[12:08] <menisk> sharkp, Since when can you get AGP 2600s?
[12:08] <hodsi1> hellO?
[12:08] <knoeki> Slart: any other way to configure xorg?
[12:08] <lucad> ﻿i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64. anyone?
[12:08] <azuki> w000t!
[12:08] <knoeki> lucad: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[12:08] <shashi> I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:08] <sharkp> menisk, ehm... haven't understood the question...
[12:09] <Uplink> |atle|: Im on prepare disk space... and i have 4 options
[12:09] <menisk> sharkp, If you know it's an AGP thing I'm no help. I've only ever done PCI-E under linux
[12:09] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. check the xorg log.. I think it's in /var/log/xorg.log .. in that log you can see what configuration file it is using
[12:09] <Fogel1497> anyways i do have a real problem.  when i try and install a theme on firefox it says "Could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox-1.0.2-fx.jar because: Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[12:09] <lucad> ﻿i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64. how can i run streming such wmv?
[12:09] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, ahh, was one of those dropped in Hardy by default?
[12:09] <|atle|> Uplink: use the manual one
[12:09] <daedra> could I get a nickname cloak?
[12:09] <umbrualbert> looks like smbfs was dropped
[12:09] <daedra> for irc
[12:10] <jussio1> daedra: #freenode for that
[12:10] <sharkp> yes, menisk, there's a problem with kernel agp support
[12:10] <umbrualbert> anyhow, the frontend still seem a bit broken, maybe after a reboot or X reset
[12:10] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, ahh, nods. Thank you.
[12:10] <Uplink> |atle|: ok, i have 13.02 Free disk space and im on the manual
[12:10] <knoeki> Slart: no xorg logs to be found there.
[12:10] <knoeki> oh wait
[12:10] <menisk> sharkp, I'm no help then. Haven't delt with it before.
[12:10] <knoeki> it's with a capital letter
[12:10] <knoeki> O.o
[12:10] <daedra> jussio1: thanks
[12:11] <sharkp> ok, no prob
[12:11] <dassouki> where are hte documents saved when they're printed to pdf?
[12:11] <menisk> Someone make sourceforge work kthx. >.<
[12:11] <lucad> i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i run streming such wmv? java?
[12:11] <marco> ok, 2nd error: I can't set the grafical effects
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. try this "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[12:11] <knoeki> Slart: there are a few of them... Xorg.0.log and Xorg.9.log ...which one do I need?
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: the one with the 0 in the name
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: the other ones are older
[12:11] <knoeki> Slart: I'll use nano, I can't use my GUI in such a low resolution ;_)
[12:12] <NIGathan> does anyone know how to get dual screens working?
[12:12] <Uplink> |atle|: ok, i have 13.02 Free disk space and im on the manual
[12:12] <Slart> knoeki: that works too =)
[12:12] <umbrualbert> Nvidia Duel Screen setup....I'm looking for 2 separate sessions
[12:12] <knoeki> or if I just have to check, less would be even better ;_)
[12:12] <knoeki> anyways.. what am I looking for?
[12:12] <hume> hi... i just upgraded to heron, and now everything I have in my home folder is shown as icons on my desktop - what to do? (running kde at the moment)
[12:12] <|atle|> Uplink: then make one 7 GB and mount it as /
[12:13] <marco> error: "Impossibile abilitare gli effetti desktop" that sounds like "unable to set desktop effects"
[12:13] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, smb:// worked fine in Gutsy, I am disappointed it fails in Hardy. (We need that to just work)
[12:13] <|atle|> Uplink: ext 3
[12:13] <sharkp> Where can I find informations about new xorg.conf?
[12:13] <Uplink> |atle|: primary and beginning?
[12:13] <shashi> I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:13] <Dundee> hi, does anoyone know alternative for AbstractSpoon ToDoList? I have tried jToDoList, but it doesn't have time counter...
[12:14] <|atle|> Uplink: yes, then one extended all the rest
[12:14] <Slart> knoeki: near the top there's a line that tells you which config-file it's using..
[12:14] <lucad> ﻿i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:14] <jdownie> #olpc
[12:14] <knoeki> Slart: ah, ok.
[12:14] <marco> compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:14] <Slart> knoeki: and then there's lots and lots of info about loading of drivers etc etc etc.. if anything goes wrong there's a EE at the start of the line.. look for those..
[12:14] <|atle|> Uplink: next one swap inside that, 512 MB
[12:15] <Uplink> |atle|: primary and beginning too?
[12:15] <|atle|> Uplink: and last the remaining as one and mount it as home
[12:15] <knoeki> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[12:15] <knoeki> yeah, that might be the problem right there.
[12:15] <|atle|> Uplink: no extended
[12:15] <lucad> ﻿﻿i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:15] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. something went wrong and it defaulted to using the failsafe config
[12:15] <basvg> hmm, during install I switched to console to make a swapfile. Each time I do that the installer hangs with a message about lockup of CPU#0. Anyone seen that before?
[12:15] <knoeki> Slart: where can I modify where xorg looks for the config file?
[12:15] <Slart> knoeki: any info on what went wrong?
[12:15] <knoeki> nope, not at all.
[12:16] <Slart> knoeki: no lines starting with EE ?
[12:16] <Uplink> |atle|: doesnt say extended... just says "type for new partition ~primary ~logical"
[12:16] <wizz1> could anyone help me ? i only have 50hz screen refresh rate setting,i need 85hz,where should i edit xorg.conf
[12:16] <|atle|> sorry, logical
[12:16] <knoeki> Slart: nope, already checked that.
[12:16] <Uplink> location?
[12:16] <|atle|> beggining
[12:16] <Uplink> kk
[12:16] <|atle|> |begining
[12:16] <knoeki> wizz1: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:17] <lucad> ﻿﻿i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:17] <DistroJockey> lucad, how much RAM do you have?
[12:17] <Slart> knoeki: and you were able to use the binary drivers before?
[12:17] <|atle|> Uplink: the last one also logical
[12:17] <lucad> 4gb
[12:17] <lucad> :D
[12:17] <wizz1> knoeki, i know how to edit,but i dont know where should i edit to make 85hz available
[12:17] <DistroJockey> lucad, stick with 32 bit (my opinion)
[12:18] <rumpel> @wizzl had same problem some minutes ago... edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf on section Monitor
[12:18] <knoeki> Slart: yup. last time I did a distro upgrade I had the same issues, but then I installed Gentoo to be over with all the troubles
[12:18] <lucad> maybe i'll think about it
[12:18] <immesys> how do I make valgrind ignore all errors in a particular library? (fglrx)
[12:18] <knoeki> wizz1: just look around in the file, it should say it somewhere.
[12:18] <lucad> but firefox open these files with totem
[12:18] <hume> anyone got ideas on why my home folder is shown as icons on my desktop after upgrade to heron?
[12:18] <LuitvD> can someone show me how to give a user access rights to USB devices?
[12:18] <Uplink> |atle|: I have 6464 space left... -logical -6465 -beginning -ext3 -mount point "/home"
[12:18] <rumpel> wizzl and add lines from the monitor specifications like     ModeLine       "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
[12:18] <|atle|> Uplink: yes
[12:18] <DistroJockey> lucad, will save you alot of issues
[12:18] <lucad> i don't get why opera wont
[12:18] <rumpel> but dont ask me, where i got em ^
[12:19] <LuitvD> I don't want to use sudo every time I need write access to my USB debugger, how can I fix this?
[12:19] <marco> ok, 2nd error: I can't set desktop effects
[12:19] <marco> error: "Impossibile abilitare gli effetti desktop" that sounds like "unable to set desktop effects"
[12:19] <lucad> i think i'll go with 64 when i get hungry il'' format :D
[12:19] <marco> compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:19] <|atle|> Uplink: and you need to tick in the format boxes for the /home and /
[12:19] <wizz1> knoeki, i only see "	VertRefresh	50-160" on the monitor section
[12:19] <lucad> ngry
[12:19] <wizz1> and my monitor model
[12:19] <Uplink> |atle|: i was JUST about to ask that lol
[12:19] <knoeki> wizz1: hrm, then I dunno, sorry.
[12:19] <digital00> when i try to regulate the volume system it tells me "there's no Gstreamer plugin or device for regulating the volume"..which packages do i have to install?
[12:20] <Uplink> |atle|:  what about swap?
[12:20] <Slart> knoeki: mm.. I had the same thing happen to me when I upgraded to gutsy.. can't remember what I did to fix it..I now use the binary driver from nvidias site.. that works for me.. if I were in your place I'd uninstall everything nvidia-related using apt-get --purge .. and then download and install the driver from nvidia
[12:20] <lucad> ﻿﻿again with ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:20] <wizz1> LuitvD, just use sudo su
[12:20] <rumpel> hardy has busted my mounted drives... entries in /dev/ for hda1... a.s.o. are missing. Any ideas?
[12:20] <|atle|> Uplink: do you only have two partitions
[12:20] <knoeki> Slart: ok.
[12:20] <wizz1> then you wont need to use sudo for every command
[12:20] <LuitvD> wizz1: no, I just want access rights without sudo
[12:20] <moon`> alright, I'm still unclear on the various version of ubuntu.  Say I want to download vlc and my options are gutsy, feisty, and edgy which one should I go with if I'm using hardy?
[12:20] <moon`> or I guess all the various names is what I'm unclear on
[12:21] <wizz1> moon`, i think gutsy would be best
[12:21] <Slart> knoeki: but then you'll break the updating you usually get by using apt-get.. and I don't know how well the nvidia drivers work on hardy.. I'm running gutsy myself
[12:21] <wizz1> but thats only what i think
[12:21] <tom`> Anyone know if the emacs-snapshot package in 8.04 includes the new font backend?
[12:21] <|atle|> Uplink: if so you need to undo changes and start over
[12:21] <nox-Hand> Anyone knwo where I can get the tango human theme in svg format?
[12:21] <nox-Hand> I need one of the arrows in svg :)
[12:21] <rumpel> hardy has busted my mounted drives... entries in /dev/ for hda1... a.s.o. are missing. Any ideas?
[12:22] <Uplink> |atle|: /dev/hda/ - /dev/hda1 ntfs /media/hda1 - /dev/hda2 ext3 / - /dev/hda5 swap - /dev/hda6 ext3 /home
[12:22] <Twim4> !nagios
[12:22] <Danieel> helo
[12:22] <lucad> ﻿ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:22] <Slart> Intrepid Ibex ??? and I thought Hardy Heron was bad =)
[12:23] <|atle|> Uplink: then you have swap as long as you chose linux-swap
[12:23] <Fogel1497> ﻿anyways i do have a real problem.  when i try and install a theme on firefox it says "Could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox-1.0.2-fx.jar because: Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[12:23] <Uplink> |atle|: so no check for that?
[12:23] <|atle|> oh, no. no need to format swap
[12:23] <Uplink> i have / and /home checked but not swap and not /media/hda1
[12:23] <Uplink> oh ok ok TY TY
[12:24] <kelvin911> hi why desktop cube doesnt work in hardy after  click extra in appearance?
[12:24] <Uplink> do i need to migrate anything? i really dont feel like tho
[12:24] <|atle|> Uplink: right. you can also create a mount point for your ntfs partition
[12:24] <jaffarkelshac> is ext2 the primary fs ubuntu uses?
[12:24] <wobx> re
[12:24] <Uplink> |atle|:  whats that? or how do i do that?
[12:24] <marco> DistroJockey: I can't set desktop effects
[12:25] <wobx> after i upgraded to hardy heron my devices are screwed..all hdx devices turned to sdx
[12:25]  * guja_nebeska online.
[12:25] <mrpouet> hi
[12:25] <jaffarkelshac> is ext2 the primary fs ubuntu uses?
[12:25] <wobx> anyone knows how i can fix this?
[12:25] <Fogel1497> what do you want to set wobx?
[12:25] <tau> hi - trying to install ubuntu onto a 2GB flash disk, but only got to 74% before the disk was full - any ideas???
[12:25] <marco> DistroJockey: compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:25] <wizz1> tau, ubuntu is larger then 2gb,i guess
[12:25] <laeg> when i try to install the theme GDM-CleanLinux.tar.gz to preferences > appearance > theme i get an error telling me it is not a valid theme. what am i doing wrong?
[12:25] <|atle|> Uplink: just rightclick it, choose mount point, and mount it as /home/your username/windows or what you prefer
[12:25] <LuitvD> how do I get just as much rights on USB devices as root?
[12:25] <wobx> Fogel1497: i upgraded to hardy and all my pata devices are suddenly sata/scsi
[12:26] <DistroJockey> marco, what video card have yo got?
[12:26] <wobx> Fogel1497: i can't even access my dvd drive anymore
[12:26] <Fogel1497> hmm gimme a second.
[12:26] <sharkp> Why can't I change everything in xorg.conf like before hardy?
[12:26] <|atle|> Uplink: just rightclick it, edit choose mount point, and mount it as /home/your username/windows or what you prefer, do not format
[12:26] <lucad> ﻿ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:26] <alado2> can i somehow integrate a clock and some weather info on my desktop? If anybody has been using DSL they have something like that
[12:26] <wobx> Fogel1497: right
[12:26] <laeg> sharkp: because video hardware is autodetected in hardy
[12:27] <knoeki> hahaha, how typical. of course I am not able to select my video card on the nvidia site. of course not. that would make it too easy, wouldn't it? O.o
[12:27] <babolat> I've clean-installed Hardy on my primary HD a couple of weeks ago. Gutsy was on the slave. Now that I reformatted that slave, I want Gutsy gone from grub.. is it safe to just to delete the lines pertaining to Gutsy in the menu.lst file?
[12:27] <wizz1> sharkp, if you're with nvidia,sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:27] <sharkp> laeg: but it is BADLY autodetected
[12:27] <wizz1> that way you could edit
[12:27] <marco> DistroJockey: ati
[12:27] <sharkp> I've an ATI... -.-"
[12:27] <Slart> alado2: there are some small desktop apps.. I think they are called screenlets.. google for it
[12:27] <wobx> Fogel1497: any idea so far
[12:27] <Fogel1497> I'm sorry wobx i've got to get to work. That is very strange.
[12:27] <DistroJockey> marco, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:27] <|atle|> knoeki: have you tried envy
[12:28] <Fogel1497> Only thing I can think of is a new clean install, but that may not be feasible or convenient for you, sorry.
[12:28] <LuitvD> I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo?
[12:28] <|atle|> !envy | knoeki:
[12:28] <wobx> foolano: yep
, ah! thats it, many thnx
[12:28] <tau> is it possible to install ubuntu onto a compressed partition?
[12:28] <Slart> alado2: you're welcome
[12:28] <case_> hi, i'm looking for the configuration file used by ekiga to store the accounts information (there's no .ekiga* , nothing in .gnome2/ , some ekiga entries in gconf but nothing about the accounts...)
[12:28] <DistroJockey> !envyng
[12:28] <babolat> !grub
[12:29] <knoeki> |atle|: no no no, I don't want that. the problem is that NVidia / xorg think that my card can handle newer drivers, while it only works with the 71 series driver!
[12:29] <|atle|> knoeki: oh, sorry
[12:29] <knoeki> every list says I need the 96xx driver, but that's not the case.
[12:29] <Necrodrako> Hello, I just need to know, how do i change the default ALSA card via terminal. I've done it before i just dont remember the command.
[12:29] <sparkyy> hey everyone
[12:29] <knoeki> |atle|: I think I have a solution though.
[12:29] <knoeki> :_)
[12:29] <|atle|> hello
[12:29]  * DistroJockey doesn't recommend envy
[12:29] <Slart> Necrodrako: alsaconf set-default-card
[12:29] <azuki> what is more common: wep HEX or passphrase?
[12:30] <tau> anyone?
[12:30] <marco> DistroJockey: distro 8.04
[12:30] <shashi>  I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:30] <azuki> passphrase: doesn't connect: but hex doesn't give me a good connection
[12:30] <Slart> azuki: not all wireless things support passphrases..
[12:30] <Uplink> |atle|: i right clicked it and there is nothing about mounting :/
[12:30] <sparkyy> Does evolution data server need to be running?  Its using like 50%-100%cpu at startup until I shut it
[12:30] <case_> azuki, i don't what is the more common, but the more secure is to not use WEP but WPA(2 if available)
[12:30] <DistroJockey> marco, upgrade I assume?
[12:30] <Uplink> |atle|: oh ! on edit partition... lol ok
[12:30] <digital00> is there any command to brutally eject the cdrom??
[12:30] <case_> digital00, eject
[12:30] <|atle|> DistroJockey: neither do I but in some cases it is easier
[12:31] <Slart> digital00: I don't know if it's brutal enough for you.. but "eject"
[12:31] <laeg> when i try to install the theme GDM-CleanLinux.tar.gz to preferences > appearance > theme i get an error telling me it is not a valid theme. what am i doing wrong?
[12:31] <LuitvD> I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo? anyone? please?
[12:31] <Necrodrako> Slart: alsaconf set-default-card
[12:31] <sparkyy> can I remove evolution-data-server?  If i dont use evolution?
[12:31] <azuki> slart: I am tryin to connect to my wifi thingy... with HEX I can get it to give me ips and DNS and all... but still the internet won't work
[12:31] <|atle|> Uplink: edit
[12:31] <wizz1> digital00, take a needle,find a little hole on the cdrom front,and put the needle in it,and push
[12:31] <knoeki> ...is there any any any any way to shut down X COMPLETELY?
[12:31] <wizz1> ;]
[12:31] <wizz1> thats a brutal ejection
[12:31] <digital00> case_: i'm installing ut2004..and i have to change cdrom about 5 times..but each time it tells me "Busy device - No eject"
[12:31] <Uplink> |atle|: its as /media/hd1
[12:31] <Necrodrako> Slart: bash: alsaconf: command not found
[12:31] <Slart> Necrodrako: yes.. I can't remember if you have to install alsaconf first..
[12:31] <digital00> wizz1:  i'm installing ut2004..and i have to change cdrom about 5 times..but each time it tells me "Busy device - No eject"
[12:31] <knoeki> because killing X does not work, X will just respawn. not even removing /tmp/.X0-lock helps... o.O
[12:31] <wizz1> digital00, i just told you how
[12:32] <DistroJockey> |atle|, I take it you are refering to upgrading?
[12:32] <marco> DistroJockey:  yes, upgrade. this is a compiz echo http://paste.ubuntu.com/8901/plain/
[12:32] <case_> digital00, it says it because a proces is still "inside" the /media/cdrom directory (a shell maybe?)
[12:32] <sparkyy> can I remove evolution-data-server?  If i dont use evolution?
[12:32] <digital00> ahm ok..
[12:32] <Slart> Necrodrako: bah.. sorry.. my bad.. asoundconf set-default-card
[12:32] <digital00> case_: yes...the shell
[12:32] <void^> knoeki: /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[12:32] <wizz1> digital00, unmount,then eject
[12:32] <wizz1> should work
[12:32] <case_> digital00, si just cd to another place and it will eject fine
[12:32] <|atle|> as in rightclick, edit and change it to /home/the name you you have set up as your user/windows
[12:32] <knoeki> void^: ah, that worked.
[12:33] <Uplink> |atle|: ty ty :D
[12:33] <|atle|> *Uplink:
[12:33] <|atle|> >/(
[12:33] <digital00> case_: it doesn't work..
[12:33] <|atle|> :-)
[12:33] <DistroJockey> marco, can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:33] <case_> digital00, try fuser /media/cdrom
[12:33] <LuitvD> I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo? anyone? please?
[12:33] <digital00> case_: even if i do umount and then eject..it doesnt work --> busy device
[12:33] <sparkyy> looks like I am seeing this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747283
[12:33] <basvg> hmm, the regular installer now gives me a bunch of SQUASHFS error; unable to read fragment...
[12:33] <chenmin> asd
[12:33] <digital00> case_: i've already tried it
[12:33] <basvg> does that imply disk failure ?
[12:33] <digital00> case_: the shell is using my cd
[12:34] <chenmin> you
[12:34] <case_> digital00, and it says...?
[12:34] <sparkyy> can I remove evolution-data-server?  If i dont use evolution?  Anyone?
[12:34] <digital00> case_: but if i stop the shell i stop the installation
[12:34] <case_> digital00, si, get the shell out of the cd!
[12:34] <|atle|> DistroJockey: no, but some find it convenient to use, as in easy
[12:34] <Uplink> |atle|: ok, it looks like this /home/Lance Tailsnake/windows
[12:34] <case_> digital00, ho
[12:34] <case_> digital00, ok, gotcha
[12:34] <lucad> ﻿ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?ù
[12:34] <Necrodrako> Slart: Thanks
[12:34] <|atle|> Uplink: looks right
[12:34] <case_> digital00, why have you to eject the cd in the first place? :)
[12:34] <Uplink> |atle|: ok ty ty :D
[12:34] <babolat> digital00: try unmounting from /media
[12:34] <wizz1> case_, he needs to change cd's
[12:34] <digital00> case_: the installation works in this way..
[12:35] <wizz1> like,please insert disk #2
[12:35] <case_> hmmm
[12:35] <Uplink> |atle|: just told me that is invalid
[12:35] <Uplink> :(
[12:35] <digital00> babolat: already tried
[12:35] <LuitvD> sorry for the repetition, I'm not getting an answer: I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo? anyone?
[12:35] <marco> DistroJockey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8902/
[12:35] <laeg> shashi: is it just the resolution? you can edit first by making a backup 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/x11/xorg.conf.bak' and then by editing it 'sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf' | i suggest you follow the guides on editing it rather than manual trial and error. you need to restart x afterwards ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:35] <wizz1> digital00, unmounting didnt work ?
[12:35] <babolat> digital00: what was that prompt u were getting?
[12:35] <laeg> !res | sharkp
[12:35] <case_> digital00, can't you copy all the cds on your hard drive and launch the install from there?
[12:35] <laeg> shashi: that comment was for sharkp my bad
[12:35] <wizz1> case_, what will he do when setup asks to put the second cd ?
[12:36] <wizz1> he needs to emulate a virtual cdrom
[12:36] <Uplink> |atle|: it told me that it cannot contain spaces :(
[12:36] <azuki> need some assistance here I guess.. I can ping my router.. but not the internet...
[12:36] <wizz1> to do that
[12:36] <|atle|> Uplink: sorry, you probably need to mount it without the space
[12:36] <digital00> case_: the sh script is imposted to read cd..not hard drive scripts..
[12:36] <case_> wizz1, we can, with mount -o loop , but it's still forbiden to unmount when a process is in...
[12:36] <azuki> oh.. wait... destination host unreachable now
[12:36] <digital00> and however it's a 4gb game... :\
[12:36] <Uplink> |atle|: so all together? /home/LanceTailsnake/windows ????
[12:36] <lucad> ﻿ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:36] <JaseMelb> Hey All, Ive got an issue that I think may be hardware. I have an Acer 5672WLMi laptop. It has a CD/DVD combo drive. It will read/write DVD's, and read CD's, but will not burn CD-Rs. In windows in does not detect the disc. And in Ubuntu it detects a blank DVD-R disc. Any suggestions?
[12:36] <laeg> when i try to install the theme GDM-CleanLinux.tar.gz to preferences > appearance > theme i get an error telling me it is not a valid theme. what am i doing wrong?
[12:37] <Danieel> Brazil  yes...
[12:37] <hume> anyone got an idea of how to set what is shown on the desktop in KDE heron?
[12:37] <lucad> ﻿ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:37] <case_> digital00, mount -f ???
[12:37] <|atle|> Uplink: did you not get Lance or something shorter when you typed in your name
[12:37] <babolat> JaseMelb: Isn't Combo DVD-ROM and CDRW?
[12:37] <jackregeh>  Hey guys I am configuring a mailserver using Postfix and Dovecot - When I restart dovecot it complains about a setting: http://rafb.net/p/LHDWv241.html any ideas why its complaining about that and how I would go about fixing it ?
[12:37] <sparkyy> Anyone know about evolution-data-server?
[12:37] <case_> digital00, no, forget it...
[12:38] <digital00> case_: doesnt work
[12:38] <babolat> laeg: probably need to compile it yourself.. as to how, no idea..
[12:38] <conathan> I was having a problem setting up ubuntu for my brother
[12:38] <sparkyy> can I remove it?
[12:38] <|atle|> Uplink: there is a difference, maybe it was lance
[12:38] <Uplink> |atle|:  this is exactly what I typed /home/Lance Tailsnake/windows
[12:38] <HSNews> which packages I need to install for install KCacheGrind on GNOME ?
[12:38] <roxahris> So, I got Ubuntu...
[12:38] <conathan> He has a via integrated graphics chipset (Chrome9)
[12:38] <HSNews> KDE libs, which?!
[12:38] <laeg> babolat: ty
[12:38] <conathan> and his mouse cursor erases the screen as it moves.
[12:38] <LuitvD> sorry for the repetition, I'm not getting an answer: I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo? anyone?
[12:38] <knoeki>   The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc 4.1) does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc 4.2).  The Linux 2.6 kernel module loader rejects kernel
[12:38] <knoeki>   modules built with a version of gcc that does not exactly match that of the compiler used to build the running kernel.
[12:38] <|atle|> Uplink: when you typed in your Name earlier in the install
[12:38] <knoeki> grat, just great.
[12:38] <babolat> !ask | conathan
[12:39] <conathan> babolat: ah
[12:39] <Uplink> |atle|:  thats exactly how i have it on windows Lance Tailsnake
[12:39] <JaseMelb> yeah babolat, thats right, its a combo drive which burns DVD-R/+R, CD-R/RW
[12:39] <harry_> can anyone help me getting problems resolved
[12:39] <DistroJockey> sorry marco , can't help
[12:39] <harry_> i have 8.04 now on my laptop and my myth server
[12:39] <babolat> ﻿JaseMelb: what's the drive's manufacturer?
[12:40] <harry_> on laptop: wifi (wpa2) doesn't work at boottime
[12:40] <|atle|> Uplink: this has nothing to do with windows, it is only to easier identify the drive
[12:40] <knoeki> how can I change the gcc environment variable?
[12:40] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, yes, I have seen the issue
[12:40] <Uplink> |atle|: so what do we do? its not taking the space :(
[12:40] <harry_> on laptop: keyboard indicator messes up after reboot, (switching keyboards doesn't work)
[12:40] <AussieGuy> it wouldnt be possible. Youd have to write your own program suid root program, to access the usb
[12:40] <AussieGuy> for wine
[12:40] <harry_> on mythbox: playing live tv is very stuttering, gives aweful picture
[12:41] <harry_> on mythbox: my logitech ultrax media remote r-rc6 doesn't work anymore
[12:41] <|atle|> Uplink: try to mount it as /home/lancet/windows
[12:41] <sparkyy> can I remove it? with apt-get remove evolution-data-server?  I am not using evolution.  OR is it required by the OS otherwise?
[12:41] <harry_> anyone experience with any of the problems?
[12:41] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, yes
[12:41] <conathan> Mouse Cursor erases creen.  (H/W: Via Chrome9). Verified in 7.10 and 8.04.  Seemed to work in 8.04beta4.  Looking to track down where the problem may be.  Experiened with xorg.conf editing, and Xorg driver compilation.
[12:41] <Uplink> |atle|: what about /home/Administrator/windows
[12:41] <|atle|> Uplink: that should be your user name
[12:41] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, thanks man!  Any idea why its included ?  I don't use fat email clients
[12:41] <conathan> there we go.  one line, slightly broken grammer.  not bad
[12:42] <roxahris> For some reason, when I get disconnected to my WEP network, I cannot reconnect unless I reboot.
[12:42] <IdleOne> sparkyy: you can remove it. it will also remove a package called ubuntu-desktop that package is not necessary but it is suggested you re-install it
[12:42] <harry_> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Logitech_UltraX_Media_Remote
[12:42] <|atle|> Uplink: try what i suggested
[12:42] <harry_> that doesn't work a bit!
[12:42] <Mimi> Ummm... I just logged in and there's no sound.. I click the mp3 to play, it looks like it's going to play and it just sits there.... and I'm trying to listen to Pandora online too, to see if its banshee or sound in general, and nope, no sound...  I've had this hardy install for almost a week now.. never had the problem. what gives... O.o
[12:42] <harry_> well... it works, just the keys don't
[12:42] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, has never caused me grief but I have seen a few people complain. No idea as to why though
[12:42] <Uplink> |atle|: ok... /home/lancet/windows
[12:42] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, looks like an open bug
[12:43] <LuitvD> sorry for the repetition, I'm not getting an answer: I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo? anyone?
[12:43] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, link?
[12:43] <Mimi> LuitvD:  I think you'll get a better answer at #wine
[12:43] <harry_> LuitvD: no idea, sry
[12:43] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, I removed it but it also junks ekiga, evolution-plugins, evolution-exchange, and the data server
[12:43] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/evolution-data-server/+bug/151536
[12:44] <the_alamo> i use gthumb to browse my video collection, how would i change the default application it uses to open videos?
[12:44] <LuitvD> Mimi: don't know... I want sudo access rights on USB devices in general though, not just wine
[12:44] <harry_> Mimi: where can i get answers?
[12:44] <babolat> LuitvD: repeating won't help. if someone knows, they'll answer.. support for wine is that way --> #winehq
[12:44] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, ahh, yeah, there is a way not to junk those
[12:44] <LuitvD> babolat: okay, thanks
[12:44] <Uplink> |atle|: and if i wanna switch my username on windows later? to Uplink?
[12:44] <Aquaman> Hey, I know that this is not a question about Ubuntu but I dont know where to ask and I have read different manuals, but each one says a different thing. PCI Express bus is parallel or serial?
[12:44] <conathan> LuitvD: (Disclaimer: no ubuntu experience).  a: create a new group, b: chmod the usb device to the new group, c: add current user to the group, d: retry it again
[12:44] <Istvan> hello
[12:44] <AussieGuy> im pretty certail that wouldnt be possible, aside from running wine under a special user that
[12:44] <AussieGuy> has special rights to usb
[12:44] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, thanks man! =)
[12:44] <|atle|> Uplink: once again, two different things
[12:45] <Uplink> |atle|: I mean... i mount it as /home/Uplink/windows and after the ubuntu install i boot up windows and change my username to Uplink
[12:45] <LuitvD> conathan: thanks :) I'll try
[12:45] <conathan> LuitvD: also, it may already be part of a group now
[12:45] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, you're welcome
[12:45] <shashi>  I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:45] <Istvan> I am here because I want to know how can I set up my resolution in ubuntu 8.04
[12:45] <shashi> I am using 64-bit Ubuntu 8.04. It ships Firefox_64bit. Proxy is working fine in that. Any 64_bit browser like seamonkey and others.. also working fine. For Java and Flash, i want use 32_bit_Firefox, If i install any 32_bit_browsers, the proxy is not working.
[12:45] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, now I am without 100% cpu utilization at boot. =)
[12:45] <conathan> LuitvD: in which case, just add your name to that group
[12:45] <LuitvD> conathan: where do I find the USB devices? /dev/bus?
[12:45] <conathan> LuitvD: what device is it?
[12:46] <Mimi> harry_:  Id like to help, but I joined the chat after you presented your question/problem --- plus I doubt I can help much :p
[12:46] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, good to hear. That's the issue I here about (CPU usage)
[12:46] <|atle|> Uplink: no, that has nothing to do with this, i suggest you leave it as it is. /media/hd1 or what it is now
[12:46] <Uplink> lol ok ok
[12:46] <LuitvD> conathan: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0451:f432 Texas Instruments, Inc.
[12:46] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, I actually wanted to use that CPU for real work. LOL
[12:46] <harry_> on laptop: wifi (wpa2) doesn't work at boottime
[12:46] <rumpel> why has hardy changed my mountpoints? =8) Is this the new style?
[12:46] <harry_> on laptop: keyboard indicator messes up after reboot, (switching keyboards doesn't work)
[12:46] <harry_> on mythbox: playing live tv is very stuttering, gives aweful picture
[12:46] <babolat> Istvan: hav u tried System > Preferences > Screen Res?
[12:46] <harry_> on mythbox: my logitech ultrax media remote r-rc6 doesn't work anymore
[12:46] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, hehe :)
[12:46] <FloodBot2> harry_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <conathan> LuitvD: give me a few seconds,  (what does the device do?)
[12:47] <jrib> rumpel: you mean the use of UUIDs?
[12:47] <|atle|> Uplink: hehe
[12:47] <harry_> Mimi: those are my problems
[12:47] <neil_d> The nvidia driver from nvidia-gfx-new doesn't appear to work. :(  I am using a GeForce 6600 card.  every way I try to configure failed
[12:47] <rumpel> @jrib no... my hda1-hda7 changed to sdc1-sdc7
[12:47] <Uplink> /media/hda1 or /media/hd1
[12:47] <Uplink> ?
[12:47] <conathan> LuitvD: try ls -l /dev/usb*
[12:47] <LuitvD> conathan: it's an emulator tool for the MSP430 chip
[12:47] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, I have some real websurfing to comedy central to do
[12:47] <jrib> !uuid > rumpel (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:47] <bladerunne1> when I play a game in ubuntu it kicks me out and back into my desktop after about 10 mins even when I move the mouse and type on the keyboard.  preusme this isn't a screensaver feature so what could this be down to?  I use compiz-fusion also in hardy
[12:47] <rumpel> well ... i fixed it... but it was a bit confusing...
[12:48] <jrib> rumpel: that link explains
[12:48] <Patchak> hey all, I have a really weird display issue since this morning, my screen is like split in two.... the display is compltely broken, isthere a way to see if there is a hardware problem??
[12:48] <bladerunne1> has anyone else experienced this?
[12:48] <LuitvD> conathan: it's all root:root
[12:48] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, hook me up ;)
[12:48] <rumpel> tnx
 disable compiz when you play games...
[12:48] <babolat> jas anyone in here tried TV tuner on Hardy? coz i'm planning to, and i dont know if driver support for those (PixelView BT878) is good.... can someone share an opinion?
[12:48] <sparkyy> DistroJockey, have a great day
[12:48] <|atle|> Uplink: /media/hd1
[12:48] <Patchak> it's not always like that, but sometimes it will just start to jump around the screen and spit in two
[12:48] <sparkyy> thanks everyone
[12:48] <ohyouknow1987> hi, im new to ubuntu, i am having a problem getting youtube videos to play, can someone help me out?
[12:48] <DistroJockey> sparkyy, you too :)
[12:48] <Uplink> ty.. sorry if im such a fucking noob on this
[12:48] <bladerunne1> Istvan....  yeah tried that too and no joy
[12:48] <|atle|> Uplink: as it was before we started
[12:49] <Mimi> ohyouknow1987:  what do you have, ubuntu hardy heron ?
[12:49] <Uplink> ok, im about to click install
[12:49] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: visit http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ and click on the yellow bar that shows up
[12:49] <|atle|> Uplink: its ok, we all where once a noob
[12:49] <LuitvD> conathan: so I guess the devices are all in the root group, right?
[12:49] <ohyouknow1987> yes
[12:49]  * smmagic thinks they should create a ubuntu hungry hippos
[12:49] <conathan> LuitvD: yep
[12:49] <conathan> LuitvD: try this.  groupadd usb;
[12:49] <bladerunne1> Istvan: in fact I'm using metacity right now (metacity --replace does invoke metacity right?! ;0)
[12:49] <conathan> LuitvD: chgrp usb /dev/usb*
[12:49] <LuitvD> conathan: and then?
[12:49] <Mimi> ohyouknow1987:  and you're using Firefox  3 beta 5, right? (it says on firefox titlebar)
[12:49]  * harry_ posts to forums...
[12:49] <conathan> LuitvD: add your user to the current group,
[12:50] <gretl> ohyouknow1987, install flashplugin nonfree
[12:50] <Istvan> bladerunnel right...
[12:50] <Mimi> jrib:  he shoudlnt have flash problems if he got Hardy
[12:50] <|atle|> Uplink: good luck and welcome to the freedom of Gnu/Unix
[12:50] <Uplink> |atle|: ty dude... thanx a LOT
[12:50] <conathan> LuitvD: (by editing /etc/group)
[12:50] <Istvan> I want to know how I can change the damn resolution in ubuntu 8.04
[12:50] <Istvan> I tryed with all tutorials
[12:50] <Istvan> no results
[12:50] <jrib> Mimi: right
[12:50] <ohyouknow1987> i did that, but ti still doesnt work...
[12:50] <Istvan> my monitor sucks
[12:50] <conathan> LuitvD: then logout/login
[12:50] <FloodBot2> Istvan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:50] <jrib> !fixres > istvan (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:50] <ohyouknow1987> yes im using firefox
[12:50] <rumpel> !fixres
[12:50] <bladerunne1> ﻿Istvan: find out what you card is capable of then edit the xorg.conf
[12:50] <Uplink> |atle|: so how do i edit the MBR?
[12:50] <LuitvD> conathan: logout/login == close terminal and open a new one?
[12:50] <babolat> Istvan: u sure you're using the right driver?
[12:50] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: did what exactly?  You were given two suggestions
[12:50] <conathan> LuitvD: entire X session actually
[12:51] <bladerunne1> Istvan: have you already tried that?
[12:51] <jrib> !who | ohyouknow1987
[12:51] <ohyouknow1987> installed flash nonfree
[12:51] <LuitvD> conathan: bah
[12:51] <ohyouknow1987> ok. sorry
[12:51] <conathan> LuitvD: what's wrong?
[12:51] <|atle|> Uplink: well the install does that for you
[12:51] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[12:51] <LuitvD> conathan: I have so many programs running XD
[12:51] <Uplink> |atle|: yay... ty :D
[12:51] <conathan> LuitvD: well, try su - (loginname) in your terminal
[12:51] <conathan> LuitvD: that may be enough
[12:51] <jrib> !pastebin > ohyouknow1987 (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <LuitvD> conathan: and after I did that? what's next?
[12:52] <mattycoze> hey does anyone know how to install fonts in 8.04?
[12:52] <|atle|> Uplink: after it is installed you get to choose between Ubuntu and Windows when you boot up.
[12:52] <conathan> LuitvD: try wine out again
[12:52] <azuki> ok.. I can't seem to get my wifi to function properly.. I get an ip, a gateway an everything.. but when I ping the gateway it says me "host unreachable"... anyone familiar with this message? I added pci=noacpi to the startup of ubuntu...
[12:52] <Uplink> |atle|: btw... i have a broadcom BCM43XX and my drivers wont load :(
[12:52] <Uplink> |atle|: Im wired right now... :/
[12:52] <Dr_willis> Uplink,  the specfic chipset is often imporntant.
[12:52] <|atle|> !wifi | Uplink
[12:52] <jrib> !fonts > mattycoze (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <Uplink> I tried those wifis :/ and my card is there
[12:52] <mattycoze> !fonts
[12:53] <mattycoze> jrib hey man, thanks but i've got a custom .ttf file
[12:53] <conathan> LuitvD: BTW, that chgrp has to be done every bootup (I dont know where you can stick that on ubuntu),
[12:53] <|atle|> Uplink: then someone else can help, as i do not have a wificard, sorry
[12:53] <kelvin911> anyone having problem with hardy????
[12:53] <conathan> LuitvD: and the proper fix would be to add a udev rule for that, but that's beyond my abilities.
[12:53] <Pici> !anyone | kelvin911
[12:54] <kelvin911> after i upgrade from gutsy the font is SCREW UP !
[12:54] <ohyouknow1987> ok here is my paste link
[12:54] <ohyouknow1987> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8908/
[12:54] <bladerunne1> ﻿mattycoze: http://www.wikihow.com/Install-ttf-Fonts-on-Ubuntu
[12:54] <jrib> mattycoze: did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[12:54] <Uplink> |atle|:  ty for all the help :]
[12:54] <conathan> Mouse Cursor erases creen.  (H/W: Via Chrome9). Verified in 7.10 and 8.04.  Seemed to work in 8.04beta4.  Looking to track down where the problem may be.  Experiened with xorg.conf editing, and Xorg driver compilation.
[12:54] <LuitvD> conathan: thanks anyway :) I'll try to search for more info on fixing this with udev then :)
[12:54] <kelvin911> anyone have font being too thick problem???
[12:54] <|atle|> Uplink: you are more then welcome
[12:54] <conathan> LuitvD: actually chmod 777 /dev/usb* may be simpler
[12:54] <neil_d> can you make the vesa driver do 1600x1200 screen ?
[12:54] <LuitvD> conathan: true
[12:55] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: yes
[12:55] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: no, you need to open a terminal, run the command 'apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree' and pastebin *that*.  Remember to prefix what you say with the nick of who you are addressing
[12:55] <conathan> LuitvD: hmm,  LinuxFromScratch has some good udev examples btw
[12:55] <kelvin911> what was the font ubuntu 7.10 uses?????
[12:55] <kelvin911> can anyone check it if you are using 7.10 now ??
[12:55] <Uplink> |atle|: so after the install how do i update my 7.04 into 8.04?
[12:55] <LuitvD> conathan: thanks :)
[12:55] <ubuntuROX> Hello,  I installed the 64bit version to a usb drive, now grub fails unless the usb drive is plugged in, does anyone know how to remedy this so that it uses internal drive for booting?
[12:55] <kelvin911> because my font here are mess up
[12:56] <kelvin911> freaking messup
[12:56] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: oo ok thanks i'll try that
[12:56] <|atle|> !upgrade | Uplink
[12:56] <|atle|> Uplink: why did you not download the 8.04
[12:56] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: sometimes wifi cards change chipset halfway through the product lifespan... what chipset is it returning for you when you type sudo lshw -class network
[12:57] <laeg> is anyone else having trouble with gdmsetup in hardy?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> laeg,  care to be more specific?
[12:57] <bladerunne1> Uplink: should be under product
[12:57] <Take0n> hello guys could you pls help me with a sound issue I have on ubuntu 8.4?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> laeg,  it dident want to run for me earlier today. but then it worked fine. not sure what the deal was with it. Took about 2 min to start up
[12:57] <ubuntuROX> I have tried unmounting the usb drive and then running grub-update and that did not fix it, I did not unplug it, but Im getting tired of rebooting to test? does anyoune know where to point me?
[12:57] <DistroJockey> ubuntuROX, probably related to UUID,  blkid  will give device id's
[12:57] <LadyNikon> since the lastest update for 7.10 i have been having graphics issues.  The restricted drivers for nvidia arent working.
[12:58] <rumpel> ubuntu now works fine. tnx ^^
[12:58] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8910/
[12:58] <|atle|> !ask | Take0n:
[12:58] <Uplink> bladerunne1: product: BCM4311 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver
[12:58] <laeg> Dr_willis: ya it just started for me also, ty :) (had trouble earlier and a gnome dev says it's a hardy socket issue)
[12:58] <elektronik123456> how turn on ubuntu effects ?
[12:58] <Uplink> |atle|: b/c i had the 7.04 in my hand already and i thought updating would be faster
[12:58] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: k, now close all instances of firefox, and visit http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ .  What does it say about your version of flash?
[12:58] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: this is your chipset... ﻿BCM4311
[12:59] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: 2 secs
[12:59] <|atle|> Uplink: ok
[12:59] <Uplink> bladerunne1: ty ty :D
[12:59] <Uplink> |atle|:  yea... lol :P this CD is red and i got it on the mail
[12:59] <Take0n> I installed ubuntu 7 and everything was fine I could hear clear sound from youtube videos, mp3s etc. I then upgraded to ubuntu 8.4 but when I play music, videos etc the sound has an annoying "hhhhhhhr"-like background sound... like when speakers are broken/burned and you play music at a high volume.. something like that. I am sure I don't have broken/burned speakers so.. what could the problem be?
[12:59] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: you tried the ndiswrapper with your windows drivers?
[12:59] <hans__> hallo allemaal
[12:59] <laeg> Dr_willis: why does sytem > preferences > appearance > think theme files aren't theme files when i try to import them?
[12:59] <Uplink> bladerunne1: I tried installing ndiswrapper and got stuck there lol
[12:59] <Knightwise> hey hans
[13:00] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: at what stage
[13:00] <Knightwise> the lingo here is english i'm afraid
[13:00] <hans__> how is life , voor het eerst ghier
[13:00] <Dr_willis> laeg,  they could be archived incorectly, or have extra files,  if you are refering to GDM theme files.
[13:00] <hans__> hier
[13:00] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: 8,0,99,0 is my version
[13:00] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: then flash is installed
[13:00] <Knightwise> hans  english my friend ENGLISH :)
[13:00] <smmagic> Can anyone tell me what the sound card support is like in the latest ubuntu?
[13:00] <Uplink> bladerunne1: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[13:00] <Dr_willis> laeg,  you might want to check out that 'gnome-art-nextgeneration' program - it automates the stuff from the gnome.art web site. (gnome-artng)
[13:00] <hans__> ok, for the first time here
[13:00] <hans__> just installed ubuntu a few weeks agao
[13:01] <hans__> ago
[13:01] <hans__> great software
[13:01] <|atle|> !de | hans__
[13:01] <ChaosTheory^> Anyone know how to run Add/Remove in Ratpoison? =P
[13:01] <Dr_willis> smmagic,   some newer cards can have issues, and the x-fi cards are an issue. My creative audigy2 works great.
[13:01] <Knightwise> erm : ubottu : hans is speaking dutch
[13:01] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: ok then why when i hit play on youtube it just skips over the video and says share/ watch again?
[13:01]  * Slart thinks Hans is from Holland
[13:01] <hans__> just can not install and/or use voipbuster and the webcam
[13:01] <hans__>  a pity
[13:01] <laeg> Dr_willis: bear with me
[13:01] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink:did it install anything? ndiswrapper-common is what is returned using sudo apt-cache search ndsiwrapper in hardy
[13:01] <conathan> Mouse Cursor is eraseing the screen as it moves.  (H/W: Via Chrome9). Verified in 7.10 and 8.04.  Seemed to work in 8.04beta4.  Looking to track down where the problem may be.  Experiened with xorg.conf editing, and Xorg driver compilation.
[13:01] <|atle|> Knightwise: oh, sorry
[13:01] <Uplink> bladerunne1: i have no idea what u just said lol
[13:01] <loca|host> hello all
[13:01] <Slart> !nl
[13:01] <Uplink> Im on 7.04 btw
[13:02] <Knightwise> lol :)
[13:02] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: well you do have an old version for some reason.  Have you installed some other flash as well?  Maybe gnash or a version you installed manually before?
[13:02] <Knightwise> fresh coffee in ubuntu-nl ?
[13:02] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: did it install anything when you tried to install
[13:02] <Knightwise> why dont we have that over here
[13:02] <hans__> i know, read it all. but i think i am too stupiud to unerstand
[13:02] <hans__> lol
[13:02] <stylesen> do anyone know the solution for this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199457
[13:02] <conathan> BTW, are we allowed to reask questions?  It is a busy channel,
[13:02] <Uplink> bladerunne1: told me E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[13:02]  * smmagic boils up some coffee for every helper in the channel
[13:02] <jrib> conathan: yes, but wait ~10-15 minutes
[13:02] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: i may have installed gnash
[13:02] <smmagic> How do you all like your coffee? :P
[13:02] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink:  yeah its because there is no such thing
[13:02] <Slart> conathan: of course.. just don't ask once a minute..
[13:02] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: remove it, restart firefox
[13:03] <Take0n> so there is none in here who can help me?
[13:03] <azuki> IT'S WORKING! IT'S WORKING :)
[13:03] <ohyouknow1987> jrib:ok i'll try that
[13:03] <Uplink> bladerunne1: lol i suck at this
[13:03] <Knightwise> has anybody had any experience with ubuntu and seesmic.com ,
[13:03] <bladerunne1> Uplink: if you type "sudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper" then it looks in the repos for that item
[13:03] <sohjo> Has anybody tried to install creative live cam video im pro?
[13:03] <jrib> Take0n: it's better to ask your question, otherwise we don't know if we can help you
[13:03] <Uplink> kk
[13:03] <conathan> jrib: Slart: Thanks
[13:03] <Slart> Take0n: what was your question again?
[13:03] <Take0n> jrib, already did once
[13:03] <Take0n> I installed ubuntu 7 and everything was fine I could hear clear sound from youtube videos, mp3s etc. I then upgraded to ubuntu 8.4 but when I play music, videos etc the sound has an annoying "hhhhhhhr"-like background sound... like when speakers are broken/burned and you play music at a high volume.. something like that. I am sure I don't have broken/burned speakers so.. what could the problem be?
[13:03] <hans__> thanks, but where to type the sudo thing?
[13:03] <Knightwise> hans : alt F2
[13:03] <jrib> Take0n: yes, you can repeat it after some time or try the forums or mailing list
[13:04] <Slart> Take0n: no idea on that one
[13:04] <microwaver> Anyone can help me a bit witht the Xserver. I can't play wow anymore since I installed xserver-xgm
[13:04] <bladerunne1> Uplink: there you'll see names of packages. what you want is "suso apt-get install ndisgtk ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9"
[13:04] <sjovan> hey, i got a NTFS disk connected to my computer. shouldn't this give me wright permissions ---> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sde1 /media/abc/ <--- i get a generic error, when i try to transfer
[13:04] <bladerunne1> Uplink: sudo not suso!
[13:04] <Uplink> LoL OK OK
[13:04] <Uplink> im not THAT noob x]
[13:04] <Take0n> sorry I just thought it would be classed as repeat or flood since the text is somewhat long =)
[13:04] <hans__> great thanaksso much, as i said a newbee here
[13:04] <Uplink> sudo is for admin
[13:04] <Uplink> right? :D
[13:04] <bladerunne1> Uplink: ;)
[13:04] <hans__> ok, thanks
[13:04] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: thanks so much it works!!!
[13:04] <|atle|> oh man, backup day, and it is taking forever. i should stop collecting stuff :-)
[13:04] <microwaver> xserver-xgl I mean
[13:04] <Uplink> ;)
[13:04] <bladerunne1> Uplink: yes
[13:04] <Knightwise> hans__ its newBIE not newBEE (a bee is a bug)µ
[13:04] <hrehf> hmm, what transfer rate would you expect on a 100mbit lan via scp? i'm having ~1.1mb/s here :(
[13:04] <smmagic> Does anyone know if the PSP has errors connecting with ubuntu
[13:05] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: sorry, ive only been on here like 2 weeks, total newb
[13:05] <bladerunne1> ﻿smmagic: connects fine
[13:05] <smmagic> no logical errors?
[13:05] <mohamed_> hello all, anyone know where i can get radio list for exaile or Rhythmbox ?
[13:05] <Dr_willis> smmagic,  ive not had issues in the past wioth my psp.. just set it to usb mode..
[13:05] <bladerunne1> ﻿smmagic: no
[13:05] <jrib> ohyouknow1987: no problem, glad you got it
[13:05] <smmagic> Like saying I have 2gb instead of 3
[13:05] <ohyouknow1987> jrib: thanks again.
[13:05] <Slart> hrehf: isn't scp encrypted ? that will bring the speed down somewhat
[13:05] <hans__> anyway will try now the alt+F2 first and then back , but yes maybe read all the manuals first and then start,lol
[13:05] <bladerunne1> ﻿smmagic: never checked that but never had issues no
[13:05] <hrehf> Slart well, somewhat, but 1/10th?
[13:05]  * smmagic thinks if it could be custom firmware
[13:06] <azuki> I guess the geforce go 6100 isn't legacy right?
[13:06] <|atle|> mohamed_: for rhytmbox there is a shoutcast plugin, i think
[13:06] <hans__> hhmmm, thaNKS NEWBIE
[13:06] <mohamed_> thx, |atle|
[13:06]  * Knightwise feels hans is new here ;)
[13:06] <bladerunne1> ﻿smmagic: i use custom fw too
[13:06] <Uplink> OK BRB! installation complete! YAYYYY!!!
[13:06] <smmagic> Mmk then
[13:06] <Slart> hrehf: well.. I agree.. it sounds like a lot.. but aren't you getting close to the maximum hard drive speed there too?
[13:06] <Take0n> I went to alsa-project.org but I am not sure of what I need to download..
[13:07]  * bladerunne1 agrees with ﻿Knightwise
[13:07] <hans__> THANKS , SORRY AGAIN, I MIGHT BE THE BUG ,LOL
[13:07] <hrehf> Slart, nah, it should easily handle 7mb/s
[13:07] <hrehf> (which i'd expect)
[13:07] <Take0n> I mean I have sound, I can see my soundcard when I enter lspci in terminal but I can't hear clear sound
[13:07] <bladerunne1> !caps
[13:07] <tobe002> you can just download like
[13:07] <bladerunne1> lol
[13:07] <loca|host> how can i activate display on the second plugged screen on my laptop ?
[13:07] <loca|host> i want to manually activate it, hardy is automatically activating it when X starts
[13:07] <Slart> hrehf: hmm.. well.. I'm out of ideas then..perhaps someone else knows more
[13:08] <hans__> WILL TRY THE THINGS I PRINTED OUT TO GET THE THINGS WORKING CONCERNING THE WEBCAM
[13:08] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: good luck young skywalker
[13:08] <loca|host> so i need to restart X when i want to get my second screen
[13:08] <Uplink> bladerunne1: E: Couldn't find package ndisgtk
[13:08] <Slart> hans__: caps lock.. please
[13:08] <hans__> ONLY INSTALLING VOIPBUSTER IN EKIGA IS NOT WORKING AT ALL
[13:08] <hans__> sorry!!!!
[13:08] <Knightwise> hans__ don't shout !
[13:08] <bladerunne1> !caps | ﻿hans__
[13:08] <smmagic> Now you must give everyone in the channel $10
[13:08] <smmagic> For shame xD
[13:08] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: you on hardy?
[13:09] <Uplink> hardy? whats that?
[13:09] <|atle|> 8.04
[13:09] <hans__> i am so sorry, was just hitting the wrong button
[13:09] <Uplink> im on 7.04 fiesty
[13:09] <Lamego> Uplink, its the current ubuntu version
[13:09] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: you wanna get upgraded sonny jim!
[13:09] <Uplink> lmao
[13:09] <Uplink> is that a joke?
[13:09] <hans__> will be bCK Lter , bye for now
[13:09] <cromag> !ubuntu
[13:10] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: please run "sudo apt-cache search ndiswrapper" and post returned info to pastebin and opst link
[13:10] <Uplink> i installed 7.04 hopping to upgrade it to the most recent one
[13:10] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: why not upgrade - and yes, it was a joke
[13:10]  * bladerunne1 has a strange sense of humour
[13:10] <Uplink> bladerunne1: let me restart so i run from the HDD and not from liveCD
[13:10] <Uplink> ^_^
[13:10] <jrib> Uplink: fresh install of 7.04?  Why not just install 8.04 fresh?
[13:11] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: you'll need to install on your hard drive again!
[13:11] <Uplink> lol b/c i didnt download it
[13:11] <Uplink> i had 7.04 CD so long ago
[13:11] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: yes install 8.04 hardy instead of 7.04 feisty!
[13:11] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: it is very old now
[13:11] <Lamego> the upgrade will just take as much download time as the entire cd
[13:11] <Uplink> I'll update?
[13:11] <Uplink> oh boi...
[13:11] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: hardy is way better
[13:11] <Uplink> i thought that it would save me time
[13:12] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to get my bluetooth mouse working in xubuntu 8.04?
[13:12] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: carry out the upgrade straight away
[13:12] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: then start installing stuff
[13:12] <azuki> give it a raise
[13:12] <Uplink> alright, brb "reboot"
[13:13] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to get my bluetooth mouse working in xubuntu 8.04?
[13:13] <tobe002> timeout
[13:13] <shally87> hi..
[13:13] <tobe002> logout
[13:13] <tobe002> bb
[13:13] <adriaan> slap it.
[13:13] <bladerunne1> !bluetooth
[13:13] <shally87> help! anyone know how to install lamp server which include apache mysql and php?
[13:13] <jrib> !lamp > shally87 (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:13] <|atle|> gtg, bye
[13:13] <bladerunne1> ﻿tmapj: see above ^^
[13:13] <Take0n> I installed ubuntu 7 and everything was fine I could hear clear sound from youtube videos, mp3s etc. I then upgraded to ubuntu 8.4 but when I play music, videos etc the sound has an annoying "hhhhhhhr"-like background sound... like when speakers are broken/burned and you play music at a high volume.. something like that. I am sure I don't have broken/burned speakers so.. what could the problem be?
[13:14] <shally87> ok
[13:14] <bladerunne1> ﻿Take0n: have no idea but hardy uses pulseaudio instead of alsa / oss by default.  have you tried the others to see what happens (goto sound settings)
[13:14] <shally87> ih ih jrib..thanks i didn notice that
[13:15] <conathan> Mouse Cursor is eraseing the screen as it moves.  (H/W: Via Chrome9). Verified in 7.10 and 8.04.  Seemed to work in 8.04beta4.  Looking to track down where the problem may be.  Experiened with xorg.conf editing, and Xorg driver compilation.
[13:15] <Lamego> bladerunne1, is not "instead", pulseaudio is used with alsa / oss
[13:15] <DistroJockey> shally87, just to share; type   sudo tasksel    and select LAMP
[13:15] <TheCobra> conathan, you have a via chipset graphic card?
[13:16] <microwaver> Is it impossible to Wine WOW next to the xserver-xgl?
[13:16] <bladerunne1> ﻿Lamego: my bad.. is used instead of ESD? or something along those lines
[13:16] <conathan> TheCobra: yes
[13:16] <the_alamo> does ubuntu have two different tracking tools, both approximately called tracker --one with magnifying glass and paw for the icon the the other with binoculars and gears?
[13:16] <TheCobra> and good resolution??
[13:16] <conathan> TheCobra: (well, installing for someone else)
[13:16] <conathan> TheCobra: dont think he mentioned any resolution problems
[13:16] <TheCobra> found a driver, but it only works on the 7.10
[13:16] <ghabit> Hello. Help me please - I need to find way to control in-&-out internet traffic.
[13:17] <Lamego> pulseaudio it's at a lower level, its used by alsa and oss
[13:17] <conathan> TheCobra: what about openchrome?
[13:17] <TheCobra> oh tried unichrome
[13:17] <Take0n> how do I do that? :\
[13:17] <bladerunne1> ﻿Lamego: it doesn't do what it says on the tin for me and I can't have 2 apps running using audio at the same time with nForce onboard audio
[13:17] <bladerunne1> ﻿Lamego: let alone control them individually
[13:18] <microwaver> Is it impossible to Wine WOW next to the xserver-xgl?
[13:18] <conathan> TheCobra: there was a chrome page on the ubuntu wiki (didn't help for 7.10 for my issue)
[13:18] <erUSUL> Lamego: quite the oposite pulseaudio is a server that uses alsa and sits on top of it... it has to offer alñsa and oss emulation for apps that are not ready for pulseaudio/esd/arts (for which it provides emulation too)
[13:19] <adriaan> is there any way to get pulseaudio to work with wine, by the way?
[13:19] <Keule> hi there! does anybody use a terratec hybrid xs with hardy?
[13:19] <adriaan> I had to set everything to alsa to get sound in wine
[13:19] <Lamego> erUSUL, ops, from my readings I got the idea it was the way around, thanks for the correction :)
[13:19] <Keule> i cant compile.....
[13:19] <guilee> hi
[13:19] <moon`> hey what's the name of that prog that lets you use msn and aim in unison?
[13:19] <adriaan> pidgin?
[13:19]  * bladerunne1 thinks pulseaudio is pretty fresh off the vine ;0) we'll all learn soon !!!
[13:19] <Keule> i tryed it with this german wiki http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/em28xx
[13:19] <erUSUL> Lamego: no problem; pulse audio is a sound server like esd or arts (or the ones used in Mac OSX and vista)
[13:19] <moon`> jah, thanks adriaan
[13:20] <suriro> Take0n: fiddle with system>pref.s>sound ,if not already.  Also mixer settings...
[13:20] <bladerunne1> ﻿erUSUL: esd and arts are used in osx and vista????
[13:20] <Take0n> I changed everything to ALSA I tested all of them.. when I hit the "test" button it sounds nice but when I play a video file or mp3 or youtube video etc
[13:20] <Take0n> it's not
[13:20] <magnetron> bladerunne1: no, that's why he didn't say that
[13:20] <erUSUL> bladerunne1: no they both use sound servers pulseaudio and esd and arts are sound servers too
[13:21] <thrope> can anyone explain this to me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8913/  why is the modified path not being picked up when I source .bash_profile?
[13:21] <bladerunne1> my bad!!! misread
[13:21]  * bladerunne1 feels enlightened
[13:21] <suriro> Take0n: prefer Autodetect if possible
[13:21] <Uplink> !update
[13:21] <magnetron> thrope: did you restart X ?
[13:22] <Take0n> okay just a second do I have to restart each time I change the settings?
[13:22] <thrope> magnetron: no, why should I need to - I manually sourced the file
[13:22] <Uplink> why i cant find from 7.04 to 8.04 ????
[13:22] <wobx> re
[13:22] <wobx> i solved the problem with pata/ide devices changed to scsi/sata
[13:23] <wobx> kernel is faulty in hardy heron
[13:23] <jrib> Uplink: it's not possible.  You need to go to 7.10 first, then to 8.04.  You are better off with a fresh install if 7.04 is also fresh
[13:23] <moon`> hey how do you do dns look ups in irssi?
[13:23] <babolat> hate to be a bother, but can someone pls point me to Transmission's channel, if they have one?...
[13:23] <wobx> 2.6.24 was the problem
[13:23] <Uplink> oh ok jrib, lol ty
[13:23] <bladerunne1> Uplink: upgrade before installing then install using ﻿sudo apt-get install ndisgtk ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[13:23] <wobx> with 2.6.22 it works
[13:23] <unop> thrope, ~/.bash_profile is only sourced in a login shell -- declare $PATH in ~/.bashrc
[13:23] <Flynsarmy> Why can't we alt+tab in gedit?
[13:23] <ChaosTheory^> How do you run Add/Remove from terminal?
[13:23] <Take0n> it doesn
[13:24] <Take0n> doesn't work :(
[13:24] <ChaosTheory^> How do you run Synaptic from terminal?
[13:24] <hap> Hi everyone. I just upgraded but my synaptic mouse does not work at all anymore on X, anyone would know a bit about that ?
[13:24] <Uplink> ok bladerunne1
[13:24] <Lamego> ChaosTheory^, sudo apt-get install/remove package
[13:24] <thrope> unop: but I am manually soruceing it: it isn't a login issue... I run . .bash_profile or source .bash_profile and it doesn't change the path
[13:24] <microwaver> Is it impossible to Wine WOW next to the xserver-xgl?
[13:24] <DistroJockey> ChaosTheory^, sudo apt-get
[13:24] <Lamego> ChaosTheory^, synaptic
[13:24] <Keule> could anybody help me with a terratec dvb-t card?
[13:24] <Keule> please!
[13:24] <Flynsarmy> ChaosTheory: apt-cache search <package> for search
[13:24] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: good luck I'm off to play some GTAIV!!!!
[13:24] <magnetron> thrope: i don't know why, i just know that i need to restart X to use my modified .bashrc , in respect to PATH variables
[13:24] <jrib> ChaosTheory^: gnome-app-install, or synaptic
[13:24] <thrope> unop: forget for a second it is .bash_profile and look at the commands I'm running
[13:24] <ChaosTheory^> Thanks everyone. =)
[13:24] <magnetron> !ask | Keule
[13:24] <Take0n> bladerunne1, lucy you may I join you? :P
[13:24] <Uplink>  Be sure that you have all updates applied to Ubuntu 7.04 before you upgrade.
[13:24] <thrope> unop: it could be any file and that should work
[13:24] <Take0n> lucky*
[13:24] <Uplink> what does that mean? :|
[13:24] <hap> ChaosTheory^: do you gave the same problem than I, no more synaptic mouse ?
[13:25] <Lamego> magnetron, system wide paths should be set at /etc/environment
[13:25] <Keule> magnetron:  i did that wiki (germen) http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/em28xx
[13:25] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: course you can ;)  haven't even played it yet and bought it yesterday with a brand new ps3!  anyhow offtopic! peace
[13:25] <Keule> i use a terratec hybrid xs card - but i cannot compile
[13:25] <hap> ChaosTheory^: I just arrived, could you copy/paste the solution if that so ?
[13:25] <Uplink> LoL nice
[13:25] <Take0n> Uplink, if you were talking to me I did all the updates before I upgraded. It was why it told me to upgrade, there were no more updates
[13:25] <magnetron> Lamego: ok, thx. hop thrope saw it too
[13:25] <Uplink> ohh!!! no wonder :/
[13:25] <ChaosTheory^> hap: No, sorry. I'm talking about the Synaptic package manager.
[13:26] <Uplink> so updates and THEN upgrades
[13:26] <hap> ah sux
[13:26] <Uplink> I see... TY TY
[13:26] <hap> hehe
[13:26] <matteo1990> hi all, i am using kmid to play a midi but i cant hear anithing
[13:26] <matteo1990> any tips?
[13:26] <thrope> I'm not trying to set a system wide path - I'm trying to set a per-user path
[13:26] <babolat> how do i know if the server i'm using for repository is out of date.. it's been ~5 days since i got hardy. no updates whatsoever..
[13:26] <unop> thrope, not sure what is going on there
[13:27] <Keule> magnetron:  i asked so whats up?
[13:27] <bladerunne1> Uplink:I'd upgrade straight away but may be wrong.. ps you have a pm
[13:27] <Uplink> hey bladerunne1. I get GTA4 this friday
[13:27] <neil_d> having a problem with my GeForce 6600 the nvidia driver supplied doesn't appear to work :(   and when I downloaded the driver script from nvidia it complained the the installed version of gcc was 4.2 and the kernel had been compiled by version 4.1 :(  what can I do to get the driver working ?
[13:27] <DistroJockey> hap, feel free to ask a question. Try to state as much information about the issue as you can.
[13:27] <Uplink> sure bladerunne1 ty ty
[13:27] <jrib> thrope: add two echo $PATH lines to your .bash_profile.  One before you export PATH and another right after
[13:27] <Uplink> Ill bug you if anything goes wrong lol
[13:27] <hans__> byebye for nwo
[13:28] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: check your private messages
[13:28] <magnetron> Keule: ask the channel, if anyone knows they will answer. when you direct your questions to me only, others may think that i told you i know the answer. i don't. show some patience please
[13:28] <Uplink> hwere
[13:28] <hap> DistroJockey: I just upgraded and my synaptic mouse does not work under X. It works under console when I start gpm. Both xorg.conf and gpm.conf use the same mouse device /dev/input/mice as ps2
[13:28] <hap> DistroJockey: is that a known issue ?
[13:28] <knmstrflx> Anyone have any experience getting a FireGL v3100 card working properly in 8.04?
[13:28] <bladerunne1> Uplink: in pidgin on the tabs above tab
[13:28] <hap> I use the synaptic driver for X.
[13:28] <magnetron> !anyone | knmstrflx
[13:28] <Uplink> i dont see no private messages :(
[13:29] <magnetron> Uplink: you need to register your nick on freenode
[13:29] <Uplink> ahh shame :/
[13:29] <DistroJockey> hap, not to me, but that was nicely stated :)
[13:29] <IdleOne> !ping
[13:29] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: are you in pidgin? next to the channel tab #ubuntu there should be bladerunner tab
[13:29] <hap> DistroJockey: I tried booting on my older kernel but it s not a kernel issue as gpm works.
[13:29] <knmstrflx> !anyone have any experience getting a FireGL v3100 card working properly in 8.04?
[13:29] <Keule> ok magnetron i ask... but I asked a 1000 times - and noone answered i only get messages if i say..... "can i ask something"....
[13:29] <sisif> Hello guys. After update-ing from 7.10 to 8.04, my wired ethernet card module (broadcom) is not longer loaded at boot time and I have to manually load it each time. I`d added it to /etc/modules and is not black listed in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. Even tried to load it via rc.local by adding "modprobe b44" in the script. But no matter what I do, I can`t seem to make it work. And having to manually load it each time is rather frustrating. Is the any other solut
[13:29] <sisif> ion I can try ?
[13:29] <Uplink> pidgin?
[13:29] <Uplink> im on GAIM
[13:29] <Uplink> lol
[13:30] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: yeah same think but pidgin newest incarnate
[13:30] <magnetron> Keule: if noone knows, no one will answer.
[13:30] <hap> DistroJockey: no mouse under X => kinda of sux...
[13:30] <HHLee> Hello, 8.04 how to share file with windows
[13:30] <Uplink> lol I see... sorry Mr... but im a LITTLE updated right now
[13:30] <Keule> lol magnetron
[13:30] <babolat> are Hardy clean-installers supposed to have gotten updates since it was released?
[13:30] <DistroJockey> hap, can imagine
[13:30] <Uplink> so i dunno the hell u talking about
[13:30] <DistroJockey> hap, maybe wacom related?
[13:30] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: no worries.  gaim is now called pidgin
[13:30] <bazhang> babolat: none so far
[13:31] <Vlet> babolat: don't think so
[13:31] <Uplink> sweet
[13:31] <Uplink> but i still dont see any PM's
[13:31] <Uplink> lol
[13:31] <hap> DistroJockey: no wacom here.
[13:31] <ChaosTheory^> I've got a Prism shortcut, but when I try to run it through MC it won't open?
[13:31] <knmstrflx> !anyone go to: hell
[13:31] <krim> Anyone else noticed that in Hardy when you have Firefox 3 maximized, you can still select the border as if to resize it (althought the size won't change of course)?
[13:31] <hap> DistroJockey: it s a vaio.
[13:31] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: 2 secs I'll do a screenshot
[13:31] <hap> and I get : input: PS/2 Mouse as /devices/virtual/input/input2
[13:31] <hap> (in the dmesg)
[13:31] <babolat> bazhang, Vlet: oh...was getting worried coz i'm on the hong kong server.. :-D
[13:31] <jrib> knmstrflx: please don't do that.  Just ask the channel your question
[13:31] <DistroJockey> hap, sorry, not really my area. Best of luck.
[13:32] <hap> aah
[13:32] <Mimi> ~ Question ~  how do I record audio (not microphone) and video (like making a screencast)  on ubuntu? I got Audacity but it doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for
[13:32] <knmstrflx> jrib: just speaking in terms the bot would understand!
[13:32] <bazhang> knmstrflx: you can /msg ubottu for fun if you wish
[13:32] <roxahris> I was wondering if anyone could answer my question... I'll say it again/
[13:32] <popey> !screencast | Mimi
[13:32] <HHLee> I need to print to a printer connected to Windows, but I dunno how to configure samba in Ubuntu 8.04
[13:32] <edreamleo> Hello all
 For some reason, when I get disconnected to my WEP network, I cannot reconnect unless I reboot.
[13:32] <cgentry72> i'm ready to delete my windows partition and i have ubuntu installed what do i need to do?
[13:32] <HHLee> any samba expert here?
[13:32] <roxahris> Just now, I restarted...
[13:32] <bladerunne1> Uplink: http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5483/screenshotmt7.png
[13:33] <jrib> knmstrflx: the bot is trying to make sure you get help.  If you ask general questions like you did, it's less likely you're going to resolve the issue.  That's why you should just state the problem you are having and not ask if anyone has ever done X
[13:33] <edreamleo> Neither Update Manager nor About Ubuntu are in my System menu
[13:33] <hoofed> Does anyone know if 8.04 has a problem with long (63 character) WPA keys? The key I use for my wireless network, which works on both Windows and Mac OS X, doesn't work under 8.04; but if I change the key to something weak (8-12 characters) it works. :-/
[13:33] <Vlet> !anyone | HHLee
[13:33] <GIn> why can't I play osngs when firefox is playing a flash video?
[13:33] <babolat> cgentry: go try gparted
[13:33] <Uplink> bladerunne1:  i just messaged u... i said "sup"
[13:33] <edreamleo> How do I update ubuntu?
[13:33] <Mimi> popey:  Thanks :) I'll see what I can get there
[13:33] <Uplink> do i need to register to PM?
[13:33] <ludwi1> i understand this version is a bad start. how about the new system monitor app? the cpu seems pretty high at all times for me. intel 2.8 ht.
[13:33] <magnetron> GIn: you seem to have set your system to use OSS, set it to use ALSA or pulseaudio
[13:33] <bazhang> roxahris: this is using the network manager?
[13:34] <babolat> !gparted | cgentry
[13:34] <bazhang> Uplink: aye
[13:34] <administrator> he?
[13:34] <cgentry72> babolat, k thanks
[13:34] <magnetron> Uplink: yes
[13:34] <DistroJockey> !register
[13:34] <Uplink> lol that sucks
[13:34] <Uplink> this nick is taken already
[13:34] <Uplink> :((
[13:34] <FloodBot2> Uplink: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <knmstrflx> anyway sorry- I'm having difficulty finding a proper setup for a FireGL v3100 gfx card. tried a few combos of open & restricted drivers and still no luck.  in a very tiny resolution atm and this is scrolling quite fast.
[13:34] <bladerunne1> Uplink: thats why mine didn't work too
[13:34] <Uplink> lol
[13:34] <roxahris> bazhang: Yes
[13:35] <bazhang> roxahris: are you familiar with the command line at all?
[13:35] <cgentry72> babolat, will this also take care of the grub entry
[13:35] <roxahris> A bit...
[13:35] <ChaosTheory^> How do I edit ratpoison keybindings? There seems to be no ".ratpoisonrc" in my home dir.
[13:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 here is a comprehensive howto for wireless roxahris
[13:36]  * roxahris goes to read
[13:36] <Uplink> bladerunne1: do u have msn? aim? skype? xfire? anything?
[13:36] <bazhang> roxahris: really no need to restart like that once you learn some simple cli
[13:36] <babolat> cgentry72: nope.. that's going to be another thing. edit menu.lst in grub..
[13:36] <HHLee> anybody can point me to a good place for samba share with 8.04?
[13:36] <knmstrflx> 640x480 is like a whole different world!
[13:36] <nainef> enter as punctuation , lol
[13:36] <babolat> !grub | cgentry72
[13:36] <unop> ChaosTheory^, it's probably under some other directory in ~. you could use find to probably locate it.   find ~ -iname "*rat*poision*"
[13:36] <edreamleo> How do I update ubuntu if the update manager menu is not visible?
[13:37] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: yeah msn dj_koby@hotmail.com
[13:37] <Uplink> lol sweet
[13:37] <unop> edreamleo, sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[13:37] <Vlet> ChaosTheory^: #ratpoison might know
[13:37] <babolat> !uninstall
[13:37] <edreamleo> unop: thanks!
[13:37] <cgentry72> babolat, got it thanks
[13:38] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu1501.com/2008/01/quick-dirty-samba-guide.html this may help HHLee
[13:38] <bladerunne1> ﻿Uplink: get on it now!
[13:38] <athreya> 2 ubuntu systems are connected using crossover LAN cable..but it has become one way...
[13:39] <bazhang> bladerunne1: and Uplink you can create a channel #uplink and chat in there
[13:39] <bladerunne1> ﻿bazhang: thanks
[13:39] <Uplink> bladerunne1: Im a server admin on another place LoL
[13:39] <Viper111> guys when i am connecting to my ubuntu server through VPN PPtp i will be disconnected from the network
[13:40] <roxahris> Hmm, it looks like I dont have a driver installed for it.
[13:41] <athreya> ikonia:﻿2 ubuntu systems are connected using crossover LAN cable..but it has become one way...
[13:41] <Luispnot> Hi, I am with problem in my Server RadHat
[13:41] <Viper111> guys when i am connecting to my ubuntu server through VPN PPtp i will be disconnected from the network
[13:41] <Vlet> Luispnot: this channel is for ubuntu support though
[13:41] <bazhang> Luispnot: this may not be the right channel then unless you wish to switch to ubuntu-server
[13:41] <Viper111> where is the ubuntu support though
[13:42] <shashi>  I am using Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit version, if i install any 32-bit applications like browsers, datbase clients ...etc. The 32-bit based applications not able to reach /etc/resolv.conf file to communicate to the network. Any one tell me how to resolve this issue ?
[13:42] <shally87> !install
[13:42] <kelvin911> hey kinetic
[13:42] <babolat> Viper111: you're in it
[13:42] <Luispnot> I'm sorry, I am brazilian, you know a chat for RadHat ?
[13:42] <knmstrflx> where might I find a proper driver config explanation for a FireGL v3100 in 8.04?
[13:42] <shally87> !install LAMP
[13:42] <kelvin911> Kinetic:
[13:42] <kelvin911> Kinetic: u there?
[13:42] <Kinetic> hi
[13:42] <Viper111> aha really i am asking for 15 min no body gave a clue
[13:42] <jrib> shally87: /msg ubottu lamp
[13:42] <knmstrflx> !install lampp
[13:42] <Pici> Luispnot: /j #rhel
[13:42] <jrib> !patience | Viper111
[13:43] <Viper111> i am patient
[13:43] <Luispnot> Thank's
[13:43] <unop> shally87, knmstrflx ubotu is a bot, he only understands a certain syntax - what are you trying to do exactly?
[13:43] <bazhang> Viper111: you may not get an instant answer
[13:43] <Viper111> but if no body helped me i will fail
[13:43] <shally87> viper !repeat
[13:43] <bazhang> knmstrflx: this is gutsy or hardy
[13:43] <Kinetic> kelvin911: glxinfo in a terminal and it will tell you if acceleration is on
[13:43] <kate_mins> hello, what is the best software to high compress data into archive ? does it possible to split the archive into parts ?
[13:43] <shally87> unop.. i finding easies way to install LAMP using the server version cd..
[13:44] <babolat> !poll | kate_mins
[13:44] <magnetron> kate_mins: i would recommend 7z or bz2.
[13:44] <unop> kate_mins, you can use a combination of tar/bzip2 and split
[13:44] <jrib> kate_mins: tar, gzip, bzip2, split
[13:44] <pajamian> Viper111: if the help you get here is insufficient you can always purchase a paid support contract from Cononical.
[13:44] <knmstrflx> upon: just fixing shally's typo :)
[13:44] <kelvin911> Kinetic: ??
[13:44] <kelvin911> its long
[13:44] <Vlet> Viper111: Try searching google for the answer to your problem. I am.
[13:44] <bazhang> knmstrflx: you still looking for help?
[13:44] <Kinetic> kelvin911 scroll up
[13:44] <Viper111> if i have a porject or uni i'll pay for the support
[13:44] <shally87> unop: i got the server cd..how to install it? if i format using that cd then kernel is not supported..
[13:45] <knmstrflx> bazhang: with gfx driver, yessir
[13:45] <sisif> Is there any other bloody way to load a module at boot time, EXCEPT /etc/modules ?
[13:45] <bazhang> knmstrflx: hardy or earlier
[13:45] <unop> shally87, what do you mean the kernel is not supported?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> shally87: try the alternative iso
[13:45] <kelvin911> Kinetic: http://www.pastebin.ca/1002842
[13:45] <knmstrflx> bazhang: hardy atm, just upgraded
[13:45] <shally87> i not sure..
[13:45] <kelvin911> ActionParsnip: i thought u hate ubuntu why u here?
[13:45] <bazhang> knmstrflx: what is the issue? crashes, cant load driver please clarify
[13:45] <unop> shally87, if all you want is to install lamp on a regular ubuntu install.  use tasksel, it ought to do it for you
[13:45] <shally87> because it happens after i instal using server cd
[13:45] <athreya> any one ??ubuntu -ubuntu LAN?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: i run kubuntu
[13:46] <shally87> ok
[13:46] <mikeok> ? compiz works , vidio works ,but if compiz is on and I watch vidio (utube ect..) I white screen. 2.2ghts 2g ram amd 64
[13:46] <shally87> sudo tasksel is it?
[13:46] <pajamian> Viper111: then look here for support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: i just hate compiz
[13:46] <ludwi1> I got a problem with FF. it seems to fullscreen even over my 3 task bars every time i open. i even don't see the very top of the window, the minimize, maximize and close buttons are gone.
[13:46] <Kinetic> kelvin911 you are good
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvin911: compiz != ubuntu
[13:46] <babolat> how do i know if ports i've set for my clients (torrent, mail, etc) are blocked by that default firewall Hardy has?
[13:46] <bazhang> athreya: please ask a clear question and we will answer if we can thanks
[13:46] <kelvin911> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:46] <jrib> shally87: the link ubotu gave you, tells you exactly what you need to do.  Did you not receive it?
[13:46] <unop> shally87, indeed but tasksel itself might need to be installed (if it isnt alread) .. sudo aptitude install tasksel
[13:46] <knmstrflx> bazhang restricted driver config's i've tried only give limited resolution (640x480) and haven't found a driver config that can atleast display video etc
[13:46] <kelvin911> Kinetic: what do u mean i am good/
[13:46] <babolat> ludwi1: try resizing your window via keyboard shortcuts
[13:47] <jrib> babolat: nothing is blocked by default
[13:47] <Kinetic> kelvin911 type glxgears and see how it performs
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ludwi1: try renaming you ~/.mozilla directory (or is it ~/.firefox) do an ls -a to check and rename it, then run firefox
[13:47] <jrib> athreya: ask a better question
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> ludwi1: if its ok, you have a damaged firefox profile
[13:47] <bazhang> knmstrflx: then you may wish to give envyng-gtk a try
[13:47] <rhorstkoetter> hello all. i've encountered problems while installing 8.04 lts using the alternate install cd
[13:47] <kelvin911> Kinetic: i can see the gear running
[13:47] <babolat> jrib: oh... that guy from #transmission is insistent that it probably does... hmmmm
[13:47] <Kinetic> kelvin911 whats the fps
[13:47] <kelvin911> Kinetic: how to tell?
[13:47] <shally87> jrib: was reading it.. but i cannot concentrate..i mean i need the fastest way as i having exam on friday..
[13:47] <jrib> babolat: 'sudo iptables -L' will show you there are no rules
[13:48] <rhorstkoetter> i get debootstrap warnings during the installation of the base system
[13:48] <jrib> shally87: it's in the first 2 or 3 paragraphs...
[13:48] <kelvin911> looks pretty smooth
[13:48] <Lamego> babolat, it does not, buf if you are behind a router you will need to set port forwarding on the router
[13:48] <rhorstkoetter> is anyone aware how to overcome these issues?
[13:48] <Kinetic> kelvin911 close it and it will spit out info in the term
[13:48] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: this is the minimal installer or unetbootin
[13:48] <knmstrflx> bazhang: yeah i tried envy in 7.10 hadn't tried it in 8.04, assumed it woouldn't work here either, I will test thank yoiu
[13:48] <Mimi> Uumm... I typed GKSUDO NAUTILUS  so I could get a explorer window with root mode... and .. my desktop wallpaper and icons changed...
[13:48] <bazhang> knmstrflx: the latest drivers support that card
[13:48] <shally87> jrib: ok..thanks..sorry ask too much..
[13:48] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: alternate installer
[13:48] <ludwi1> babolat: what commands are they? i've never done it before
[13:49] <athreya> bazhang:two ubuntu systems are connected using crossover LAN cable..but from system 1 i can access system2 but from system 2 i cant access system1  jrib:
[13:49] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: warnings or it shuts down the install/hangs
[13:49] <knmstrflx> bazhang: you the win, I shall return and preach your glory ifwhen this works
[13:49] <kelvin911> Kinetic: http://www.pastebin.ca/1002848
[13:49] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: warnings that it could not load package xy, everytime I tried another one
[13:50] <pajamian> athreya: could either be a routing problem on system 2 or a firewall problem on system 1
[13:50] <kelvin911> Kinetic: u see? http://www.pastebin.ca/1002848
[13:50] <shally87> actionparsnip: what is alternative iso??
[13:50] <Kinetic> kelvin911 everything looks fin, you even have the correct driver installed. wihtout physically being at the machine I'm not sure I can help
[13:50] <Kinetic> s/fin/fine
[13:50] <shally87> jrib: that on for 6.04..my version is 8.06
[13:50] <babolat> Ludwi1: you'll have to look yourself. System> Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts.... go look while I look into mine.. i haven't changed them since i installed
[13:50] <shally87> nono 8.04
[13:50] <roxahris> So, it seems I need to 'wrap' the Windows drivers...
[13:50] <shashi>  I am using Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit version, if i install any 32-bit applications like browsers, datbase clients ...etc. The 32-bit based applications not able to reach /etc/resolv.conf file to communicate to the network. Any one tell me how to resolve this issue ?. I am using Ubuntu 8.04 64-bit Desktop . I have installed 32-bit apps like firefox, seamonkey, Oracle SQL Developer clients, but none of them is not able to travel through proxy. But if i
[13:50] <shashi>  give the IP address then it is going fine, but if i give a name, then it is not going.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> shally87: its a slightly different cd and it can make some hardware work. Im not aware of the technicalities
[13:50] <kelvin911> Kinetic: the divx movie just look better smoother in windows
[13:50] <jrib> shally87: read what it says about 7.04.  It's the same
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> !alternate
[13:50] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: is there an issue with the burn/iso or the cd perhaps? have you tried re-burning as well as doing checkdisk and md5sum on the iso?
[13:51] <shally87> ok
[13:51] <Kinetic> kelvin911 are you using the totem player?
[13:51] <shally87> see again
[13:51] <kelvin911> VLC
[13:51] <kelvin911> Kinetic: VLC on both xp and ubtunu
[13:51] <kelvin911> ubuntu
[13:51] <mohbana> hi anyone using mercurial and eclipse?
[13:51] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: md5sums are correct, burned twice, second time at lowest speed available
[13:51] <pajamian> shashi: not a resolv.conf problem, but you're close.  You're probably missing a 32 bit library for resolving names.
[13:51] <Kinetic> kelvin911 have you tried another player? try mplayer
[13:51] <bazhang> mohbana: what issues are you having please explain
[13:51] <athreya> pajamian:how can i check for firewall problem?
[13:51] <ohgood> rhorstkoetter, maybe hte cd reader is dying ?
[13:51] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: I read in the forums that it has something to do with the partitioner
[13:52] <kelvin911> Kinetic: try mplayer on ubuntu, still have that
[13:52] <babolat> Ludwi1: found them yet?
[13:52] <rhorstkoetter> ohgood: no problems so far with other media
[13:52] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: well that might be possible, but likely it is the things I spoke of
[13:52] <rhorstkoetter> ohgood: only 8.04 sucks that way
[13:52] <Kinetic> kelvin911 and with players, it's beter to compile from source. The prepackaged deb's are too generic
[13:52] <kelvin911> the picture quality in ubuntu is better but sometimes when the picture has large motion vertically, the screen kinda choppy
[13:52] <shashi> pajamian, i have installed as many 32-bit libs, please can you specify what DEB package i am missing ?
[13:52] <ohgood> rhorstkoetter, could be the kernel stuffs, can you make an image of the media with dd sucessfully ?
[13:53] <knmstrflx> ahh i see envy updated, I was not aware of this
[13:53] <pajamian> shashi: sorry, I don't know.
[13:53] <babolat> Ludwi1: my shortcut for Resize Keyboard is Alt + F8
[13:53] <Kinetic> ohgood good to see you here:)
[13:53] <rhorstkoetter> ohgood, not tried that
[13:53] <picarra> hello everybody
[13:53] <athreya> how can i check for firewall problem??
[13:53] <picarra> i'm new
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> hi picarra
[13:53] <ohgood> rhorstkoetter, it should tell if there are issues with the medium and/or the burner
[13:53] <picarra> i'm french
[13:53] <alons> ciao
[13:53] <kelvin911> Kinetic: how do i compile VLC?
[13:53] <cracka> good morning
[13:53] <ludwi1> i was playing around with the resizing from a right click on task from my task bar. i just opened FF on a different umm side of the square..lol but it didn't work. so then i tried to max and move and they didn't do anything.
[13:54] <cracka> can someone help me installing metabuntu?
[13:54] <picarra> they are anybody than speek french
[13:54] <bazhang> athreya: how do you know it is a firewall problem
[13:54] <picarra> ?
[13:54] <CarlFK> where is the "system,admin,login window,security,enable autmatic login" setting stored?
[13:54] <rhorstkoetter> ohgood: I'll try that wait a second
[13:54] <bazhang> !fr
[13:54] <babolat> !fr | picarra
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> cracka: put cd in and boot, then click install
[13:54] <rhorstkoetter> any other suggestions? nyone?
[13:54] <picarra> ok thank you very much,
[13:54] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: until you try those no
[13:54] <ludwi1> oops. you got that babolat?  didn't place your name first
[13:54] <cracka> ActionParsnip: sorry, i am using ubuntu, but want to put metabuntu on my pc as well which will include libdvdcss and the codecs i want
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> cracka: a dual boot?
[13:55] <cracka> ActionParsnip: no, its not a different os distro, it is an add on to ubuntu
[13:55] <athreya> bazhang:it works with windows
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> cracka: you can install metacity and simply switch between window managers
[13:55] <babolat> ludwi1: might've gotten lost.. just say it again
[13:55] <ludwi1> babolat: alt + f8 didn't work either.
[13:55] <x4b4r4s> someone speak english?
[13:55] <IdleOne> cracka: you can have libdvdcss and other codecs without installing metabuntu or whatever it is
[13:56] <ludwi1> babolat: ﻿i was playing around with the resizing from a right click on task from my task bar. i just opened FF on a different umm side of the square..lol but it didn't work. so then i tried to max and move and they didn't do anything.
[13:56] <bazhang> athreya: that is interesting but what leads you to believe it a firewall issue?
[13:56] <x4b4r4s> ops
[13:56] <cracka> IdleOne: ok how
[13:56] <Uranellus> !automte
[13:56] <IdleOne> !dvd | cracka
[13:56] <bladerunne1> !ask | ﻿x4b4r4s
[13:56] <x4b4r4s> someone speak portuguese?
[13:56] <Uranellus> !automate
[13:56] <jrib> !pr | x4b4r4s
[13:56] <jrib> !pt | x4b4r4s
[13:56] <bazhang> !pt | x4b4r4s
[13:56] <ika> Hi, i updated to ubuntu 8.04 and now gnu icecat stopped connecting to the internet. I'm guessing it has something to do with firewall settings, since i can read local html files just fine and the icecat settings haven't changed.
[13:56] <pajamian> bazhang: I just told athreya that it is likely either a routing issue on one computer or a firewall issue on the other.
[13:56] <babolat> ludwi1: but Alt+F8 *is* the shortcut defined for resize window, right?
[13:56] <x4b4r4s> thanks
[13:56] <x4b4r4s> =)
[13:57] <cracka> IdleOne: thats what i was saying, i need medibuntu
[13:57] <bazhang> pajamian: ah sorry did not see that my bad
[13:57] <ludwi1> babolat: FF was working ok after the update but now. so dunno why it's doing it at all
[13:57] <IdleOne> cracka: oh I see so you need to add the medibuntu repos to your sources.list?
[13:57] <microwaver> any atiX600 users here who play wow. I've got a general question form them
[13:57] <cracka> yep
[13:57] <cracka> IdleOne: yep
[13:57] <mabus> how come when I try to login to Xvnc it takes my vnc password, but then brings me to a blank grey x screen with a basic x cursor, and nothing else?
[13:57] <ludwi1> babolat. nothing happens when i do that. it seems resize, move, max and minimize don't do anything..
[13:57] <pajamian> bazhang: you know how to disable iptables in ubuntu (for athreya to check)?  I know you can turn it off like a service in centos but I don't see it in ubuntu.
[13:58] <frostburn> pajamian, it's a kernel mod
[13:58] <IdleOne> cracka: you know what the deb: http line is you need to add ?
[13:58] <babolat> ludwi1: are u using compiz right now?
[13:58] <bazhang> pajamian: should she not open the port she wishes to connect on?
[13:58] <ludwi1> babolat: i go into help > report a problem and a little window pops up. then my task bars do show but i still can't do anything with FF. and once i click on FF it covers my task bars again..
[13:58] <wallybuntu> why is it that practically evry time i try to start firefox on this old laptop i get a message that firefox is already running, and i must close it to open a new window?
[13:59] <rhorstkoetter> ohgood, bazhang: ok, no error with dd, iso has correct md5
[13:59] <ludwi1> babolat: yea i got compiz running
[13:59] <sipuser1> hi
[13:59] <hap> does someone know why my synaptic mouse works with gpm and not X since I upgraded ?
[13:59] <pajamian> bazhang: yes, but the easy way to see if it's the cause of a problem at all is to just turn it off.
[13:59] <IdleOne> cracka: you running gutsy or hardy?
[13:59] <cccharles> does anybody know if something has been wrong with ca.archive.ubuntu.com (the canadian update mirror) recently?
[13:59] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: and how about the checkdisk
[13:59] <pajamian> athreya: do this command and see if there are any rules: sudo iptables -L
[14:00] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: no problems at all, trust me the media is fine. must be another issue
[14:00] <babolat> ludwi1: try disabling it, then restart it via Terminal so you could see if there are errors related
[14:00] <ohgood> rhorstkoetter, ouch, i'm at the end of my rope then, sorry
[14:00] <vecKt> what should i do? i'vegot an ati radeon,.. i've installed some ATI drivers (that ubuntu suggested) but still scrolling in my browser is slow, movies play slow, 3D programs are very slow...? on ATI webpage there are only some old version of drivers (for SUSE and stuff...)?
[14:00] <rhorstkoetter> nobody encountered debootstrap warnings during the install using the alternate cd?
[14:00] <shally87> jlib: i need to download the package right?
[14:00] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: you suggesting the alternate installer is broken or something other--not quite following your reasoning
[14:00] <ludwi1> babolat: turn off compiz?
[14:00] <athreya>   pajamian:how to reset network settings to default?
[14:00] <frostburn> wallybuntu, because it's already running, it's either still starting up or still shutting down, open a terminal and type in killalll firefox-bin  to kill it
[14:00] <babolat> ludwi1: yep..
[14:00] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: sorry?
[14:01] <ludwi1> babolat: ok.
[14:01] <Kinetic> frostburn the lock file might not have been deleted
[14:01] <magnetron> cccharles: i know Cogen is having connectivity issues
[14:01] <pajamian> athreya: why?
[14:01] <IdleOne> cracka: you there?
[14:01] <opuuss> Help me wtf ....>"Could not authenticate An unexpected error has occurred."
[14:02] <frostburn> opuuss, context?
[14:02] <athreya> pajamian: output is Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[14:02] <athreya> target     prot opt source               destination
[14:02] <cccharles> magnetron: is Cogen one of the hosts for ca.archive.ubuntu.com?
[14:02] <ludwi1> babolat: cool it works. going to try to turn back on compiz. i just love it to much.
[14:02] <opuuss> "The configuration could not be loaded You are not allowed to access the system configuration."
[14:02] <bujar> what are the diferences btw 7.10 and 8.04?
[14:02] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: there must be an issue with the installer yes, or at least with the partioner. if the media is correct, verified with dd, this is most likely - isn't it?
[14:02] <babolat> ludwi1: then run compiz via terminal.
[14:02] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: just searching launchpad for bugs sorry
[14:02] <pajamian> athreya: it should show three chains all with policy accept and no rules under them.
[14:03] <magnetron> cccharles: Cogent is an ISP
[14:03] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: ok thanks anyways
[14:03] <microwaver> magnetron, namesteal u dutch bastard :P
[14:03] <unop> !language
[14:03] <magnetron> microwaver: i was here for years
[14:03] <IdleOne> cccharles: change your repos to the main repo.
[14:03] <cccharles> magnetron: OK, thanks. Maybe that's it.
[14:03] <opuuss> frostburn,   configure to lan " Check that it is correctly typed and that it is correctly supported by your system."
[14:04] <microwaver> is it possible that wine disables your audio?
[14:04] <cccharles> IdleOne: I'm very close to doing just that. the ca archive has been flaky for a couple of weeks now.
[14:04] <AudioSenseCD> guys it is necesary to upgrade to hardy?
[14:04] <IdleOne> cccharles: happens now and then
[14:04] <ludwi1> babolat: wasn't using terminal. what would be the difference from terminal or from the umm the other way
[14:04] <IdleOne> AudioSenseCD: absolutely not. unless you want to
[14:04] <microwaver> AudioSenseCD, No it is not. it's just an option
[14:04] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: is the error cannot determine codename?
[14:04] <AudioSenseCD> hmm  got it
[14:04] <AudioSenseCD> thx
[14:05] <cccharles> IdleOne: it does indeed. not normally for as long as this, though. thanks for the suggestion.
[14:05] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: sorry, I didn't get the question?
[14:05] <babolat> ludwi1: in terminal, you'd see if there are errors when starting and running compiz... is it running now?
[14:05] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: you can scroll up?
[14:05] <frostburn> athreya, i just read your question, what activities are you trying to do across the crossover cable, do both pcs have ips, can they ping each other, can they nmap each other, is the traffic being dropped by one side and not the other, does wireshark look the same on either end?
[14:05] <AudioSenseCD> i think gutsy is the stable distro
[14:05] <chasity> How do i make it where 2 computers using ubuntu can see each other on a network.
[14:06] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: I'm sorry, lost in translation - the error is file is corrupt
[14:06] <microwaver> AudioSenseCD, I'm going to wait for the 8.10 version I think
[14:06] <frostburn> AudioSenseCD, 3 years support on heron, not so much for gutsy
[14:06] <vecKt> ﻿what should i do? i've got an ati radeon,.. i've installed some ATI drivers (that ubuntu suggested) but still scrolling in my browser is slow, movies play slow, 3D programs are very slow...? on ATI webpage there are only some old version of drivers (for SUSE and stuff...)?
[14:06] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: but it isn't
[14:06] <babolat> ludwi1: is FF the right size now?
[14:06] <pajamian> chasity: if they are on the same network and configured properly then they will see each other.
[14:06] <knmstrflx> bazhang: i updated to envyNG, installed the newest ATI driver, saw the message "this card IS supported" (you are correct) but after reboot i go into low res mode :(
[14:06] <ludwi1> test
[14:06] <AzizLight> hi everybody
[14:07] <opuuss> now unistall kubuntu-desktop  and default ubuntu-dekstop ?now ?
[14:07] <chasity> i dont know how to configure.
[14:07] <frostburn> opuuss, do you have a click path of how you got to that dialog?
[14:07] <Akii> How do I download a directory at the time through the terminal's FTP client?
[14:07] <jtravnick> chasity, if you get to work let me know
[14:07] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: that is different from the bugs filed so far; you may wish to look them over howerer
[14:07] <ludwi1> babolat: yea compiz is back up and FF seems to work so far.  that was odd. just a second ago some windows froze on me. that's why i said test there.
[14:07] <knmstrflx> akii: generally the ftp server has a setting to allow/disallow copying of entire directories i believe.
[14:07] <athreya> pajamian:http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m687e854b
[14:07] <cracka> IdleOne: I got it bud...
[14:07] <pajamian> chasity: usually done by default.  How about you give more detail of what your problem is?
[14:07] <bazhang> knmstrflx: you need to enable the driver now
[14:08] <IdleOne> cracka: good to hear. have fun
[14:08] <AzizLight> I installed ubuntu studio theme yesterday, and it replaced my ubuntu splash screen, my logon screen, the sounds, everything...is there a way to go back to the defaults?
[14:08] <test4_up> I'm not used to this xchat interface on hardy. the users list is a button, and that sounds a bit silly.
[14:08] <bullgard4> What programs will use the configuration file ~.fonts.conf?
[14:08] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: for sure I'll do this, but I guess it will not solve the problem :-D
[14:08] <test4_up> any way to get this into a sidepane or tab?
[14:08] <Akii> knmstrflx: OK. What else FTP client would you recommend?
[14:08] <chasity> I go to network and all i see is workgroup from my windows computer. I have nothing there for my Linux box on there...my network has 2 linux boxes and a windows...I hvae Not configured a network. on the linux box.
[14:08] <babolat> ludwi1: your video card must be showing a litttle strain.. well, so long as it works :)
[14:08] <IdleOne> test4_up: expand it
[14:08] <pajamian> athreya: ok, what program are you using to try to talk to one computer from the other that only works "one way"?
[14:08] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: I had a look in the forums and it seems that's a common error since edgy times
[14:09] <ludwi1> babolat: yea. thanks
[14:09] <drmarwat> hello
[14:09] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: but different from the one you are experiecning
[14:09] <knmstrflx> akii: client is mostly a matter of preference, I use filezilla on windows where I'm able to drag drop directories via gui.
[14:09] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: but nobody has a solution unfortunately. the beta of 804 instals just fine with the same drive
[14:09] <pajamian> chasity: you need to share something on the ubuntu box for it to appear on the network.
[14:09] <egoleo> hello
[14:09] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: what about the minimal iso; same problem there?
[14:10] <microwaver> !hi | egoleo
[14:10] <test4_up> @IdleOne: if I expand it it just becomes a temporary list. I was thinking more of a sidepane item.
[14:10] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: not tried that. minimal iso?
[14:10] <Akii> knmstrflx, uhm, well, I don't have Windows. I'll look around, thanks.
[14:10] <test4_up> IdleOne: if I expand it it just becomes a temporary list. I was thinking more of a sidepane item.
[14:10] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: netinstall?
[14:10] <chasity> ok. im installing the sharing thingy now.
[14:10] <ludwi1> babolat: i'm not use to of having many problems with ubuntu like this version. lol it seems like they are trying to copy M$ a little with the newest.. :P
[14:10] <egoleo> i just installed hardy on my acer 4520 but my wifi is not detected. someone help me
[14:10] <IdleOne> test4_up: you using xchat-gnome?
[14:10] <opuuss> now unistall kubuntu-desktop  and  retun default ubuntu-dekstop
[14:10] <test4_up> IdleOne: yep
[14:10] <athreya> frostburn:both are set to automatic configuration of ip(DHCP),i dont know how to ping
[14:10] <drmarwat> i want to install nvidia driver for my nvidia geforce fx 5600 card, which driver would i need... the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[14:10] <rhorstkoetter> egoleo: what wireless chipset?
[14:10] <tyranos> my laptop hangs  all the time , and i have to type something , as if it were waiting for some user events to move on ,
[14:10] <microwaver> !wireless | egoleo
[14:11] <egoleo> atheros
[14:11] <test4_up> !wireless
[14:11] <rhorstkoetter> egoleo: madwifi driver
[14:11] <IdleOne> test4_up: errrr try xchat-common serch for it in Synaptic. and get rid of that xchat-gnome
[14:11] <egoleo> Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[14:11] <AudioSenseCD> drmarwat: i thing legacy is best
[14:11] <microwaver> does someone know if you aren't able to run wine and xservergl simultaneasly
[14:11] <test4_up> meh, what a pity. i thought that since it had the gnome name on it it would be prettier
[14:11] <AudioSenseCD> *think
[14:11] <egoleo> how do i install
[14:11] <pajamian> test4_up: remove xchat-gnome and install regular xchat instead (without the -gnome)
[14:11] <drmarwat> AudioSenseCD: thanks
[14:12] <ben_m> drmarwat: nvidia-glx-new
[14:12] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: I don't wanna keep you up too long. thanks for your help
[14:12] <shoaibi> okay, can anyone tell me where does my launchers are stored that i add on panels? e.g. if i want to add the same collection of launchers on another system, which folder should i copy and overwrite there?
[14:12] <tyranos> egoleo http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/160673/
[14:12] <egoleo> and how abt nvidia driver
[14:12] <babolat> ludwi1: all part of the process. doesn't make Ubuntu any less beautiful for me though ;)
[14:12] <bazhang> rhorstkoetter: cannot find a link atm for minimal iso (approx 9MB) there is unetbootin how ever
[14:12] <athreya> pajamian:ya it has become 1 way..
[14:12] <pajamian> athreya: what program?
[14:12] <egoleo> and how abt my nvidia driver plse
[14:12] <Kickstep> anyone know a good read on encryption (in depth on blowfish + xor)?
[14:13] <ffm> Where can I find the open week channel?
[14:13] <ludwi1> babolat: lol
[14:13] <Odd-rationale> !mini | rhorstkoetter
[14:13] <rhorstkoetter> bazhang: I'll try the desktop cd first, thanks, although I hate gui based installers, just a waste of memory :-D
[14:13] <tyranos> egoleo, install envy from http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[14:13] <shally87> jrib: i just download the apache file but i dont know how to do it..
[14:13] <egoleo> and plse i am getting my resolution to be 800*600 which i dont like how do i fix this plse
[14:13] <athreya> pajamian:no program...just a LAN
[14:13] <drmarwat> i was looking for cairo-dock but didnt see it in repo
[14:13] <shally87> is there any easier way to install it/
[14:13] <pajamian> athreya: ok, what program are you using to try to talk to one computer from the other that only works "one way"?
[14:13] <shally87> !lamp
[14:13] <IdleOne> !envy | egoleo
[14:14] <ffm> !openweek
[14:14] <s3phiroth> hi there. i just upgraded my work machine from gutsy to hardy which is a fairly simple pc that usually doesn't have any problems with ubuntu (integraded intel graphics and such). i used to have a resolution of 1280x1024 but not it's at 1024x768 and even if i change it in the screen resolution utility it's ignored. i tried setting the modeline in my xorg.conf but it's not helping either. what could be the problem ?
[14:14] <rhorstkoetter> ubottu: thanks
[14:14] <egoleo> ok
[14:14] <bazhang> egoleo: is this hardy or gutsy
[14:14] <BonezAU> Hi, I am having a huge problem with both firefox and swiftfox and general system slowness. Every time I load a web site, the window starts to grey out as if the program is freezing up and then it comes back again after about 10 seconds. It's really annoying. I am running Hardy with the latest updates. Any suggestions? Thanks
[14:14] <ShadowBelmolve> anyone know if gnome have the side bar, with cpu, memry and etc infos? like windows vista
[14:14] <ffm> What's with ubottu's new name?
[14:14] <egoleo> i am running on hardy
[14:15] <bazhang> egoleo: there is envyng-gtk in the repos you know
[14:15] <ffm>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[14:15] <egoleo> ok
[14:15] <s3phiroth> that was supposed to say "but now it's at 1024x768". typo :/
[14:15] <egoleo> i will install it and try
[14:15] <v0lksman> bazhang:  envyng doesn't support intel chipset/drivers
[14:16] <Kcaj> Heya I need to chmod a directory
[14:16] <Kcaj> I try to sudo
[14:16] <bazhang> v0lksman: no need to
[14:16] <v0lksman> oops...might have followed the wrong thread there... :)
[14:16] <Morninwood> hi
[14:16] <Kcaj> but I get an unable toi resolve host error
[14:16] <Kcaj> Although this is the only time Samba has ever worked for me :(
[14:16] <Kcaj> so I'm reluctant to change any settings
[14:16] <Kcaj> What should I do?
[14:16] <kelvin911> hwo to check what font my OS is using?
[14:16] <Kcaj> Look at the screen
[14:16] <krim> kelvin911: System -> Appearance I think
[14:16] <v0lksman> kelvin911:  System -> Appearance
[14:17] <kelvin911> is ur font san?
[14:17] <kelvin911> can u guys check?
[14:17] <bazhang> kelvin911: systme appearances fonts
[14:17] <sisif> Is there any other bloody way to load a module at boot time, EXCEPT /etc/modules ?
[14:17] <kelvin911> what font gutsy uses?
[14:17] <kelvin911> and what font hardy uses?
[14:17] <krim> kelvin911: sans, sans, sans, sans bold, monospace
[14:17] <sisif> Sans
[14:17] <bazhang> kelvin911: take a look please
[14:17] <v0lksman> sisif: put the load line in rc.local  'modprobe <module>'  but /etc/modules is the best way
[14:18] <sisif> v0lksman: I tried both. And none is working :(
[14:18] <kelvin911> please tak a look guys http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3fj4.png
[14:18] <v0lksman> then something else is wrong....
[14:19] <kelvin911> my font setting didnt change but the font becomes so thick and ugly
[14:19] <kelvin911> after upgrade to hardy
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> sisif,  if rc.local isent loading them.. then theres somthing seriously wrong.
[14:19] <sisif> v0lksman: yup. And I can`t figure out what.
[14:19] <krim> kelvin911: Where? Everywhere?
[14:19] <kelvin911> in general
[14:19] <sisif> Dr_Willis: all worked fine until updating from 7.10 to 8.04
[14:19] <v0lksman> sisif: you can load it manually once the machine is up?
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> sisif,  try loading them manually, and check the output of 'dmesg' for any error messages.
[14:19] <ludwi1> is there anything special to get compiz to work with an ATI vcard? i could never understand and get why i can't get it to work on my other machine
[14:19] <Kcaj> What should Host name: be on my machine?
[14:19] <babolat> kelvin911: hav u tried changing the Appearance settings?
[14:19] <kelvin911> specially in opera becausei uses opera all the time i can see the different
[14:19] <Kcaj> I tried localhost and a made up one, neither work
[14:20] <microwaver> ludwi1, xserver-xgl always helped me
[14:20] <sisif> v0lksman, Dr_Willis : I can load it manually.
[14:20] <kelvin911> i did change the appearance
[14:20] <Kcaj> It tried to resolve them when I sudo
[14:20] <Kcaj> so I can't sudo
[14:20] <microwaver> ludwi1, on both my ati driven machines.
[14:20] <v0lksman> sisif: what module?
[14:20] <krim> kelvin911: text in terminal looked a bit fuzzy and thick to be but the rest is fine after my upgrade (yesterday). In Firefox some sites had really crappy text but I went into preferences and changed so sites can't set their own fonts.
[14:20] <ikonia> Kcaj: are you gettinga  hostname name resolve error with sudio
[14:20] <ludwi1> microwaver: that's in the package manager?
[14:20] <ikonia> sudo
[14:20] <sisif> v0lksman: b44 (for broadcom 44100 ethernet wired)
[14:20] <Kcaj> Yes
[14:21] <v0lksman> sisif: ew...hahaha
[14:21] <cgentry72> i deleted my windows partition and formated it as ext3 but now i don't have access to it could someone suggest anything
[14:21] <Kcaj> I just changed it to localhost and logged out/back in
[14:21] <microwaver> ludwi1, if you open a terminal and then do sudo-apt get install xserver-xgl
[14:21] <Kcaj> so gimme a sec
[14:21] <Pitel_laptop> I just wanted to upgrade my desktop machine from gutsy to hardy... I did it by update manager. It downloaded all packages, and rigth after the installation should start, it failed. Any idea how to do the upgrade? I did it on my laptop a few days ago and everytjing went fine.
[14:21] <ikonia> Kcaj: you need to boot into "recovery" shell mode, and edit /etc/hosts to include your hostname mapped to a local address, eg: 127.0.1.1
[14:21] <sisif> v0lksman: ?
[14:21] <Kcaj> I can't just change it to localhost? ;D
[14:21] <kelvin911> krim: so u have the same thick font problem?
[14:21] <ikonia> Kcaj: sure, that works too
[14:21] <babolat> cgentry72: does it show in the Computer?
[14:21] <ludwi1> microwaver: found it already. it's installing now.
[14:21] <kelvin911> KrimZon: it is very annoying
[14:21] <cgentry72> babolat, yes it does
[14:21] <Pici> !hostname | Kcaj
[14:21] <Kcaj> No it didn't work lol
[14:21] <v0lksman> sisif: I hate broadcom.  always an issue
[14:21] <Kcaj> unable to resolve host localhost
[14:21] <Kcaj> wtfs
[14:21] <kelvin911> KrimZon: i shouldnt upgrade
[14:22] <cgentry72> babolat, i can open it but can't save anything to it
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: you can't do it now, as your not root
[14:22] <babolat> cgentry72: and are you able to mount it?
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: you can't use root until you fix this
[14:22] <cgentry72> babolat, yes
[14:22] <Kcaj> So what do I do now?
[14:22] <sisif> v0lksman: Yeah. I get the same feeling
[14:22] <krim> kelvin911: Only in terminal. But I'm getting used to it now. Which rendering option do you have in system -> appearance -> font ? Try the other ones and see if it improves.
[14:22] <microwaver> ludwi1, you also have System  > Preferences >Advanced Desktop Settings?
[14:22] <Kcaj> I can't boot in to recovery
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: exactly what I told you
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: why can't you boot into recovery ?
[14:22] <ludwi1> microwaver: actually it's trying to download. lol it's not downloading. just frozen
[14:22] <babolat> cgentry72: what does the Permissions tab tell you?
[14:22] <Kcaj> I need a disk for that?
[14:22] <kelvin911> krim: no improvement at all
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: no you don't
[14:22] <microwaver> ludwi1, weird
[14:22] <cgentry72> babolat, let me check one sec
[14:22] <ikonia> Kcaj: it is an option on the grub menu
[14:22] <Kcaj> Okay
[14:22] <Kcaj> then how do it? Okay
[14:23] <Kcaj> so I go there, and, I'll tell you what happens next
[14:23] <v0lksman> sisif: did you check /var/log/syslog for errors after a boot?  or check dmesg output?
[14:23] <zionpsyfer> Having an issue with the livecd hard locking when trying to boot.  This occurs after any menu item is selected.  On a separate comp, the cd test comes out ok.  I'd like to find what the kernel is puking on.
[14:23] <ikonia> Kcaj: I've told you exactly what to do
[14:23] <cgentry72> babolat, permissions could not be determined
[14:23] <ikonia> Kcaj: read up
[14:23] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, also the minimum graphics menu?
[14:23] <sisif> v0lksman: dmesg shows nothing. Let me see in syslog
[14:23] <ludwi1> microwaver: yea i tried to turn it on normaly. it just says that i need composite exentiosn
[14:23] <krim> kelvin911: Hm, you could try switching font but I *think* the fonts used in Hardy are the same as Gutsy.
[14:23] <cgentry72> babolat, sorry owner is root
[14:24] <ikonia> Kcaj: what part of my explination was not clear, and I'll clarify it for you
[14:24] <babolat> cgentry: odd..
[14:24] <Kcaj> I'm in Regrubery mode
[14:24] <microwaver> ludwi1, and after the installation of xserver ?
[14:24] <zionpsyfer> microwaver: Indeed, I've tried editing the boot line to nosplash single as well.
[14:24] <ludwi1> microwaver: odd says an error occured. it failed to fetch it
[14:24] <babolat> cgentry72: if it's root, then it ought to work..
[14:24] <Kcaj> I edit /etc/hosts and make make it look pretty by drawing ASCII LOLCATS
[14:24] <Kcaj> and hope my system lets me sudo
[14:24] <ikonia> Kcaj: if you want to mess around, do it with someone else
[14:24] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, ah, that was my solution to your problem... :
[14:24] <ikonia> Kcaj: I'm offering you support for our OS
[14:24] <kelvin911> krim: but why font become so much uglier than gutsy?
[14:24] <babolat> cgentry72: and i assume you are unable to change that..
[14:24] <microwaver> ludwi1, try again
[14:24] <ludwi1> mircrowaver: whenever i try to turn on compiz it says that composite crap
[14:24] <Kcaj> omg
[14:24] <cgentry72> babolat, correct because i'm not root
[14:24] <Kcaj> I just fell in love with Ubuntu
[14:24] <Kcaj> I had no idea Ubuntu had pico until just now
[14:24] <Kcaj> :D
[14:25] <zionpsyfer> microwaver:  Heh, great minds.
[14:25] <microwaver> Kcaj, what's pico?
[14:25] <shally87> help: unix is linux right?
[14:25] <sisif> v0lksman: this is what I get in syslog upon modprobing the module: "Apr 30 16:24:39 Sisif kernel: [ 6032.212285] eth0: Broadcom 44xx/47xx 10/100BaseT Ethernet 00:19:b9:85:80:f6"
[14:25] <v0lksman> shally87: no
[14:25] <Kcaj> The best text editor ever
[14:25] <cgentry72> babolat, initially when i clicked it, it asked for my password but as my username not root
[14:25] <krim> kelvin911: I have no idea, I tried asking about my slightly fuzzy text in Terminal last night but no one replied.
[14:25] <Kinetic> shally87 no
[14:25] <Kcaj> ANyway my /etc/hosts looks like:
[14:25] <genii> shally87: unix <> linux
[14:25] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, it's just i've had the same problem. and after fixing the size of my splashscreen everything went fluently
[14:25] <ikonia> shally87: unix is not linux, linux and it's tools are based on a unix standard though
[14:25] <microwaver> shally87, no :)
[14:25] <shally87> v0lksman: then where to download apache for linux?
[14:25] <Kcaj> 127.0.0.1 = localhost.(companyname) and 127.0.1.1 = localhost.(companyname)
[14:25] <luinfana> unix != linux
[14:25] <Kinetic> both are posix standard
[14:25] <Kcaj> this is good, right?
[14:25] <ikonia> shally87: it's in the synaptic package manager
[14:25] <v0lksman> shally87: apt-get install apache2
[14:26] <babolat> cgentry72: u sure it's ext3? coz i had that problem once but it was when i turned my HD to ntfs....
[14:26] <Kcaj> Do not use apt-get
[14:26] <kelvin911> krim: maybe no one uses hardy
[14:26] <ikonia> Kcaj: no, I told you, your hostname needs to be in the /etc/host file
[14:26] <knmstrflx>  bazhang: you said "enable the driver" after trying and failing now i ask how do i enable the driver? :)
[14:26] <Parsi> hi, i installed gdb-avr, but i dunno how to run it! who can help me?
[14:26] <cgentry72> babolat, let me double check
[14:26] <Andeh> Hi guys. Whats the command that probes and tells you what video card you have? Im on friends pc lol
[14:26] <Kcaj> Oh, ok
[14:26] <ikonia> Kcaj: why can you not use apt-get ?
[14:26] <shally87> owh
[14:26] <shally87> ok..
[14:26] <TimbisLopez> use xampp
[14:26] <Kcaj> It smells of elderberries
[14:26] <shally87> thanks guys
[14:26] <ikonia> Kcaj: PLEASE stop messing around and offering silly advice
[14:26] <sisif> Dr_Willis:  this is what I get in syslog upon modprobing the module: "Apr 30 16:24:39 Sisif kernel: [ 6032.212285] eth0: Broadcom 44xx/47xx 10/100BaseT Ethernet 00:19:b9:85:80:f6"
[14:26] <v0lksman> sisif: do you get that on boot?
[14:26] <cgentry72> babolat, yes ext3
[14:26] <Kcaj> There is NOTHING in /etc/host
[14:26] <ikonia> Kcaj: /etc/hosts
[14:26] <microwaver> shally87, in 1990 or something Linus Thorvalds created his own Unix based OS. --> Linux
[14:26] <Kcaj> I was just in /etchosts
[14:27] <ikonia> Kcaj: yes, I know
 Kcaj: no, I told you, your hostname needs to be in the /etc/host file
[14:27] <hooer> allo
[14:27] <krim> kelvin911: I'm pretty sure we're not the only ones :) But you could try and ask in the forums. IRC is good if you need help fast but sometimes it's easier to get an answer in the forums. Good luck
[14:27] <babolat> cgentry72: not sure if this will work, but try restarting your PC..
[14:27] <ikonia> Kcaj: that was a typo, I said earlier /etc/hosts to you
[14:27] <LinuxNIT-II> hey guys, i did a upgrade from gusty to hardy and now compiz wont start... i get this.  http://pastebin.ca/1002869  any idea how to fix it?
[14:27] <sisif> v0lksman: noup. I just "modprobe -r b44 && modprobe b44" now
[14:27] <Kcaj> I even told you what my /etc/hosts loks like inside
[14:27] <hooer> i have a quick Q before i reboot, potentially screwing my system :p
[14:27] <ludwi1> microwaver: i still can't get it even with terminal..
[14:27] <Kcaj> and then you told me to go to /etc/host lol like I was in the wrong place :(
[14:27] <cgentry72> babolat, i will but i already did after i deleted windows, formatted the partition and changed grub
[14:27] <Andeh> hi, whats the command that tells you what video card you have"? im trying to fix screen res
[14:28] <luinfana> I've got a question about a Realtek 8139 ethernet card...nothing on the forums has helped
[14:28] <ikonia> Kcaj: what is your machine hostname ?
[14:28] <babolat> cgentry72: oh... then i'm stumped.. sorry
[14:28] <Kcaj> I can just make 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 both localhost.(companyname) ?
[14:28] <bazhang> knmstrflx: what does hardware drivers show is in use?
[14:28] <luinfana> anyone have any experience with that?
[14:28] <hooer> I swapped out a drive in a RAID1 array. it's all synched fine, but i was worried about the MBR. So i ran LILO. Is that the right thing to do?
[14:28] <zionpsyfer> microwaver:  I have to assume it's puking on some piece of hardware.  If I could at least jump to another term via CTRL+ALT+F#, which ever spews the kernel messages.... I could unplug / disable it.   Guess it's time to experiment. ;)
[14:28] <cgentry72> babolat, should root be the only one that can access it?
[14:28] <Kcaj> I don't really care as long as there is no way it can conflict or anything, can I just enter localhost.(companyname) for both the 127 ones?
[14:28] <genii> Andeh: Usually something like: lspci | grep VGA
[14:28] <ikonia> hooer: why ar eyou using lilo ?
[14:28] <microwaver> ludwi1, have you tried synaptic?
[14:28] <jk_> Andeh, gksu displayconfig-gtk and choose the correct monitor
[14:28] <hooer> yep
[14:28] <ikonia> hooer: why are you using lilo ?
[14:28] <jk_> how do i fix this annoying invisible trash bin i am having
[14:28] <knmstrflx> bazhang: ati accellerated gfx driver in use.  although i've unchecked that, reinstalled, rechecked it, and still fails
[14:28] <ikonia> hooer: is there a reason
[14:28] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, can't you boot in text mode.
[14:28] <pajamian> luinfana: that's an old card, yes, but not in ubuntu.  I have had it working in old linux boxes for ages, though.
[14:28] <hooer> why? it came with server
[14:28] <babolat> cgentry72: no.. when it's owned by root, you should be able to write to it..
[14:29] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, and after that enable graphics mode?
[14:29] <ikonia> hooer: lilo is not the default boot loader for ubuntu server
[14:29] <hooer> i installed 8.0.4 server and that was the default
[14:29] <Andeh> thanks jk_
[14:29] <dsch04> Is there a firewall tool in 8.04?
[14:29] <ludwi1> microwaver: yea twice
[14:29] <ikonia> hooer: lilo is not the default
[14:29] <Pici> !firewall > dsch04 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[14:29] <hooer> orly? well i dont know where it came from :/
[14:29] <jk_> dsch04, firestarter
[14:29] <microwaver> ludwil do you have the universal repositories enabled?
[14:29] <cgentry72> babolat, maybe i'm confused but only if i login as root right?
[14:29] <ikonia> hooer: thats quite worrying
[14:29] <jk_> how do i fix this annoying invisible trash bin i am having
[14:29] <hooer> aye!
[14:29] <luinfana> pajamian: exactly, exactly. It works on like Mandrake and Slackware but anything Debian has trouble with it (Knoppix, etc)
[14:29] <luinfana> do we know why?
[14:29] <Kcaj> I love how fast Ubuntu restarts
[14:29] <zionpsyfer> microwaver: Nay, any and all menu items I select, even modifying the boot line for single.. all variations hard lock as soon as I try to boot
[14:29] <sisif> v0lksman: do you want me to pastebin my syslog so you can take a look there? I`m kinda of a noob to linux and I`m not sure what to look for.
[14:30] <Kcaj> total time from POST to like desktop is under 1 minute
[14:30] <pajamian> luinfana: sorry, i don't.  I would have expected it to "just work".
[14:30] <microwaver> zionpsyfer, even thought about a faulti live cd?
[14:30] <ludwi1> microwaver: no clue what or where it is lol i'm still kinda newbish to ubuntu still.
[14:30] <eross> what is skype and why do i want to make calls over the internet when I already have a phone that is plugged into my broadband modem card, eg. my regular phone line?
[14:30] <microwaver> ludwi1, me to :) but i'll try and guide you through
[14:30] <hooer> but regardless of that.... did i do the right thing running Lilo? did that do something to the MBR so that both drives have it now?
[14:30] <luinfana> pajamian: yeah, me too...it's a shame because it's the only thing keeping me from installing Ubuntu on this computer...Windows has slowed to an unusable crawl
[14:30] <Keule> how can i get my terratec hybrid xs started with hardy?
[14:30] <ikonia> eross: thats a question you need to ask your self, not ubuntu support
[14:30] <babolat> cgentry72: no need to log in as root if i'm not mistaken.. if your user has sufficient priveleges it should work
[14:30] <pajamian> luinfana: good luck
[14:30] <dsch04> Nothing built in to Ubuntu like the Fedora system-config-securitylevel tool ?
[14:30] <ikonia> hooer: no, you didn't do the right thing running lilo
[14:31] <luinfana> pajamian: eh, thanks
[14:31] <hooer> oh :/
[14:31] <zionpsyfer> microwaver: I have, but I've installed two other systems with this cd, and it passes the test when run from my laptop.  tried a diff cdrom drive in the comp giving me trouble just in case.
[14:31] <ikonia> hooer: I'm worried why your machien is using lilo
[14:31] <cgentry72> babolat, ok well i'll see what i can do thanks though for trying
[14:31] <knmstrflx> eross: skype chat has the ability to encrypt, unlike other commercial chat clients!
[14:31] <Pici> hooer: Are you sure you aren't using Grub and confusing it with lilo?
[14:31] <gateau> !fr
[14:31] <microwaver> ludwi1, system, administration > softwaresources. click on that
[14:31] <hooer> are you certain it isnt default for server?
[14:31] <ikonia> hooer: %150
[14:31] <hooer> well i have a lilo.conf
[14:31] <hooer> and it has the right info
[14:31] <magnetron> eross: i strongly advice against using skype. there are other VOIP services that are better, as Ekiga with SIP
[14:31] <babolat> cgentry72: np
[14:31] <luinfana> anyone else know of anything I can try to force this Realtek card to work?
[14:31] <ikonia> hooer: show me uname -a please
[14:31] <hooer> Linux jass 2.6.24-16-server #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:58:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:32] <ludwi1> microwaver: what i have now is advanced desktop effects settins. and some kind of gforce and ati driver program.. forget the name of that driver program :P let me find it
[14:32] <ikonia> hooer: you have 2 choices, 1.) install grub 2.) attempt to progress using lilo
[14:32] <LinuxNIT-II> hey guys, i did a upgrade from gusty to hardy and now compiz wont start... i get this.  http://pastebin.ca/1002869  any idea how to fix it?
[14:32] <hooer> it was a clean build, software raid from start
[14:32]  * shadeimi says hello :D
[14:32] <ikonia> hooer: your call which way we go
[14:32] <microwaver> ludwi1, envy?
[14:32] <luinfana> I tried dhclient on it, it just says NO DHCPOFFERS RECIEVED
[14:32] <Keule> ﻿how can i get my terratec hybrid xs started with hardy?
[14:32] <hooer> hmm :|
[14:33] <hooer> changing boot managers seems the risker option ey?
[14:33] <ludwi1> microwaver: think that's it. lol
[14:33] <ikonia> hooer: ok, thats fine
[14:33] <Andeh> okay, i got this. 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] (rev 01)
[14:33] <Andeh> What driver should I use?
[14:33] <ikonia> hooer: so you want to progress with lilo
[14:33] <ikonia> hooer: whats the current state of your disks
[14:33] <microwaver> did you check the software sources. if universal is enabled
[14:33] <bazhang> !binarydrivers | Andeh
[14:33] <microwaver> ludwil, did you check the software sources. if universal is enabled otherwise you can't download xserver
[14:33] <hooer> primary master sdi is new, secondary master sdj is the existing one, it has the correct MBR
[14:34] <Moc> Another freaking problem... ubuntu 8.04 with provided inkscape, pdf export can't be printed from windows adobe client !
[14:34] <ludwi1> microwaver: checking
[14:34] <hooer> ..unless i ruined that by running lilo (without any args)
[14:34] <Moc> space doesn't work in vlc anymore... Im back to 7.10 !!
[14:34] <ikonia> hooer: ok - so what is your goal
[14:34] <hooer> the output from that was: Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed | ting one, it has the correct MBR
[14:34] <hooer> * roxahris_ has joined #ubuntu
[14:34] <hooer> oops sorry
[14:34] <sisif> What do avahi-daemon actually does ?
[14:35] <ludwi1> microwaver: there's no list or anything about universal that i can see.
[14:35] <hooer> here's the output: Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed | Added Linux * | Skipping /vmlinuz.old | Warning: /dev/sdi is not on the first disk | The Master boot record of  /dev/sdi  has been updated. | The Master boot record of  /dev/sdj  has been updated. | 2 warnings were issued.
[14:35] <BonezAU> Hi, i'm having major slowness problems with firefox and my computer in general. Running hardy - anyone know where I should start? It's running like a dog!
[14:35] <bazhang> ludwi1: that would be universe-->one of the repos
[14:35] <ikonia> hooer: ok, what is your end goal, what would you like help with
[14:35] <v0lksman> sisif: sorry boss is walking around in our pod... :)  go ahead and pastebin it...I'll take a peak
[14:36] <Kcaj> webmin doesn't work on ubuntu, right?
[14:36] <Kcaj> but ubuntu has lynx?
[14:36] <Andeh> the ati driver howto says i need atleast radeon 9500. I have 9000. that ok?
[14:36] <ikonia> Kcaj: webmin is not supported on ubuntu
[14:36] <bazhang> ebox Kcaj
[14:36] <hooer> just awnt to make sure the OS will boot even if 1 drive is failed in the RAID1 array
[14:36] <Kcaj> Is there an easy way to edit cron?
[14:36] <Kcaj> I only need it for cron jobs
[14:36] <microwaver> ludwi1, it's in thte first tab : Community-Maintained Open Source Software (universe) :)
[14:36] <BonezAU> Kcaj, webmin does work, it's just not supported. Yes lynx is available but not installed by default
[14:36] <Pici> Kcaj: crontab -e
[14:36] <Kcaj> I hate editing crontab manually
[14:36] <Kcaj> biggest headache ever
[14:37] <ludwi1> microwaver: i see it now. yea every one of them are clicked.
[14:37] <ikonia> hooer: ok, so lilo needs to be installed on both mbrs of the 2 disks and it needs to reference the /dev/md devices rather than /dev/sd$ in the config. I 'm not sure how lilo will deal with that
[14:37] <knmstrflx> kcaj: i had no trouble installing and configuring webmin in gutsy.
[14:37] <Kcaj> there is no kind of like crongui package I can get for Gnome?
[14:37] <v0lksman> Andeh: install envy and install the ATI driver using it
[14:37] <Kcaj> I'm using HH
[14:37] <hooer> at the moment it already references /dev/md0 in the config.
[14:37] <Pici> Kcaj: Have you looked in the repos at all? And pleaes don't use enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <microwaver> ludwi1, I don't really understand why you're not able to do sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl then
[14:38] <hooer> it was installed originally with 2 drives but one failed, i've swapped one out, just want to make sure the MBR is done too
[14:38] <BonezAU> Hi, i'm having major slowness problems with firefox and my computer in general. Running hardy - anyone know where I should start? It's running like a dog!
[14:38] <egoleo> guys how do i get mp3 and other codecs to work?
[14:38] <bazhang> Kcaj: apt-cache search cron
[14:38] <ludwi1> microwaver: i got no clue either.
[14:38] <Kcaj> I use Synaptics thxvrymuch
[14:38] <bazhang> egoleo: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:38] <sisif> v0lksman: there you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8928/
[14:38] <ikonia> hooer: from the output of what you said, it looks like the mbr on the second disk has been updated
[14:38] <ludwi1> let me try on this computer if i can get it.
[14:38] <luinfana> I'd realllllllllllly like to get this card working if anyone knows anything...it's driving me crazy how Windows works fine with it and Ubuntu fails
[14:38] <hooer> cool :p
[14:38] <BonezAU> egoleo, www.ubuntuguide.org has a section on audio codecs, have a read
[14:38] <babolat> egoleo: u shud get a prompt when u need it, esp in rhythmbox and amarok
[14:38] <hooer> i'll reboot and see how she goes
[14:38] <knmstrflx> bonezau: whats your CPU usage like? if high what process?
[14:38] <v0lksman> BonezAU:  Check gnome-system-monitor...what is your CPU/RAM doing?
[14:38] <bazhang> luinfana: which chipset
[14:38] <ikonia> hooer: I'm rusty on grub so can't be certain, but it looks good
[14:38] <cgentry72> I deleted my windows partition and formatted as an ext3 but now i cannot access it
[14:38] <babolat> !codec | egoleo
[14:38] <Kcaj> you need a Windows recovery disk
[14:38] <puppetmaster> anyone, Rmvb files play in slow motion
[14:39] <Kcaj> to fix the mbr
[14:39] <tmapj> I added a bunch of bluetooth software. Now where did it go so i can run it?
[14:39] <tmapj> I added a bunch of bluetooth software. Now where did it go so i can run it?
[14:39] <luinfana> bazhang: it's a wired ethernet card, a Realtek 8139C+
[14:39] <ikonia> Kcaj: who does
[14:39] <jdwatson> ﻿Anyone interested in a little BASH coding fun?
[14:39] <Kcaj> cgentry72
[14:39] <Vlet> tmapj: it's not in the menus?
[14:39] <cgentry72> Kcaj, yes
[14:39] <puppetmaster> I installed mplayer binary codecs ubuntu-restricted-extras w32 codec
[14:39] <Kcaj> I mean, as far as I understood the problem anyway
[14:39] <tmapj> vlet: no
[14:39] <bazhang> luinfana: what does ifconfig show? eth0 and lo
[14:39] <Kcaj> it is real easy, yu type like one line
[14:39] <Pici> !who | Kcaj
[14:39] <puppetmaster> and the problem still exists
[14:39] <BonezAU> v0lksman, cpu hovering around 30-40%, ram is 320mb of 1000mb used.
[14:39] <luinfana> bazhang: not in front of the machine ATM but I believe so
[14:39] <Vlet> tmapj: Well, what's the software?
[14:40] <puppetmaster> So what should I do?
[14:40] <shally87> i have install the apache
[14:40] <magnetron> cgentry72: you shouldn't format partitions if you wish to keep the files. formatting removes the files. you should choose to resize the partition if you want to keep the files, not format it,
[14:40] <bazhang> puppetmaster: then install realplayer
[14:40] <tmapj> vlet: its all bluetooth programs
[14:40] <ludwi1> microwaver: maybe ubuntu removed it? or got another software insted or soemthing stupid like that lol
[14:40] <puppetmaster> I installed realplayer11
[14:40] <shally87> how do i run it?
[14:40] <hooer> ikonia, it's booting fine, cheers
[14:40] <puppetmaster> and the problem still exists also
[14:40] <ikonia> hooer: you did it yourself, more like "well done"
[14:40] <bazhang> luinfana: hard to troubleshoot from memory alone
[14:40] <Vlet> tmapj: what's the software?
[14:40] <babolat> !ask | puppetmaster
[14:40] <BonezAU>  v0lksman i am using an IBM Thinkpad T43
[14:40] <puppetmaster> all media works fine but RMVB files
[14:40] <luinfana> bazhang: true true, I'll go boot it up :)
[14:40] <tmapj> vlet: its all bluetooth programs
[14:40] <microwaver> ludwi1, perhaps the envy thingy
[14:40] <cgentry72> magnetron, thank you but i am aware of that. i did not want to keep anything. i mean i cannot save anything to the partition
[14:40] <hooer> sexy time!
[14:40] <microwaver> ludwi1, I do'nt use it myself
[14:40] <Vlet> tmapj: NAMES!?
[14:40] <BonezAU> high five
[14:40] <shally87> !run apache
[14:40] <tmapj> vlet: i dont remember
[14:40] <BB88> Hello. Anybody know how to not have removable drives display on the Ubuntu desktop?
[14:41] <shally87> !run
[14:41] <Vlet> tmapj: then how can we help?
[14:41] <cgentry72> magnetron, it is saying i do not have permission
[14:41] <tmapj> vlet: hold on ill get the names
[14:41] <Kcaj> By the way, gui for crontab is called gcrontab, it is listed as GTK bases crontab editor
[14:41] <puppetmaster> So, What should I do guys?
[14:41] <ludwi1> microwaver: well i'm going to check if envy is installed on the other comp. i see it easy on this comp.
[14:42] <Vlet> luinfana: what's the card model number?
[14:42] <magnetron> cgentry72: when did you format the partition? after installation or during the install?
[14:42] <Dvyjones> Anyon here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron?
[14:42] <tmapj> bluetooth analyzer
[14:42] <tmapj> kbluetooth
[14:42] <Andeh> v0lksman: uh... Your graphic card is supported by the legacy Driver ----  EnvyNG ERROR: ATI's legacy driver does not support your operating system
[14:42] <bazhang> Dvyjones: some have with the fw cutter
[14:42] <shally87> how to know apache running or not?
[14:42] <tmapj> bluetooth obex server
[14:42] <Dvyjones> bazhang: fwcutter doesn't work with me :P
[14:42] <luinfana> Vlet: hold on, it's booting...I'll have more information in a second
[14:42] <Dvyjones> Anyon here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:42] <blizzkid> lo all. I get these errors on my slave dns: http://www.pastebin.org/32999
[14:42] <cgentry72> magnetron, after.  i installed ubuntu to make sure everything worked then i deleted my windows partition, formatted it as ext3, changed grub and rebooted
[14:42] <ludwi1> microwaver: with synaptic i searched envy. turns out there is envyng-core and 2 others. would i need all?
[14:43] <tmapj> kbtobexclient
[14:43] <titusg> how do I stop gutsy from port-scanning for printers? I've had a complaint from our network people
[14:43] <BonezAU> shally87, ps -aux |grep apache
[14:43] <ixian_> i think myh laptop has bluetooth capability but im not sure.. how can i check?
[14:43] <Kinetic> shally87 ps -aux
[14:43] <Lynet> puppetmaster: Problems with RealMedia file playback in Linux? Hold on, let me check..
[14:43] <xpistos> what is up everyone
[14:43] <bazhang> Dvyjones: then you need to use ndiswrapper or compile
[14:43] <microwaver> ludwi1, sorry don't have any experience with envy
[14:43] <tmapj> kinputwizard
[14:43] <Andeh> anyone here know how to get drivers for radeon 9000?
[14:43] <magnetron> cgentry72: you either need to add the file to your fstab or you need to mount it
[14:43] <tmapj> kbluemon
[14:43] <Dvyjones> bazhang: I just used ndiswrapper, followed the guide exactly, but still i cant connect
[14:43] <Vlet> tmapj: try hitting alt-f2 and type: kbluetooth
[14:43] <Aramil> anyone knows how to deal with this?
[14:43] <Aramil> dsdt.dsl  8740: [*** iASL: Read error on source code temp file ***]
[14:43] <Aramil> Error    4094 -^ syntax error, unexpected $end
[14:43] <ludwi1> microwaver: lol i can't install that one either.
[14:44] <Aramil> cause my laptop is burning
[14:44] <xpistos> Does anyone know a good tutorial for changing your bootup screen from the normal "ubuntu" to something different?
[14:44] <knmstrflx> bazhang: any last ditch efforts you might consider on this ATI driver issue before i boot back into windows? (i hate to see this hardy install go untouched like my gutsy install did)
[14:44] <Vlet> tmapj: because that's a KDE program, it might not be automatically entered into the gnome meny
[14:44] <cgentry72> magnetron, it is mounted
[14:44] <ludwi1> microwaver: it's attached to zserver-xgl lol
[14:44] <BonezAU> anyone know how to fix my slow pc? :( works fine under XP, dual booting with hardy. runs really slow, screen keeps dipping to grey while it waits for applications
[14:44] <ludwi1> microwaver: oops xserver**
[14:44] <tmapj> how do i switch to kde mode
[14:44] <JediMaster> Hey guys, anyone know a quick way of bulk renaming files? E.g. abcd*.txt to efgh*.txt ?
[14:44] <microwaver> ludwi1, can't sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl?
[14:44] <Aramil> or if u have a custom dsdt that fixes overheat problem with toshiba
[14:44] <slytherin> Andeh: drivers are already there. What is your exact problem?
[14:44] <Vlet> !usplash | xpistos
[14:44] <luinfana> xpistos: just search the forums for "usplash"
[14:44] <bazhang> knmstrflx: some have to run it a couple of times; you did uninstall the others before doing this right? you read the instructions? or just installed over it
[14:44] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Seems like i broke ownership and access permissions for my $HOME directory. I can't login from gdm - it says, it doesn't have permissions
[14:45] <cgentry72> magnetron, it mounts and everything but I can't move files there or save to it
[14:45] <ludwi1> microwaver: i've already used terminal
[14:45] <v0lksman> sisif: it's going to be something related to ndiswrapper...unfortunately I can't help much more on that...I don't use wireless and never have so I am clueless....but I bet ndiswrapper is getting in the way....
[14:45] <Pici> microwaver, ludwi1: xserver-xgl is not needed if you are running Hardy.
[14:45] <Kyosama> im using a Dell D610, and I'm having trouble getting the JACK server configured inside Ubuntu Studio. Does anyone know hot to use this?
[14:45] <magnetron> cgentry72: check the permissions for it
[14:45] <BonezAU> I have an IBM T43 laptop with an Intel 910 chipset. Which would the best graphics driver for me be? I seem to be getting really poor performance with the default driver in hardy.
[14:45] <microwaver> Pici, i'm running Gutsy
[14:45] <napnap> how can I do to set up java plugin on a browser (like firefox) with ubuntu Hardy 64 bits ? I tried multiple things..I've installed firefox 32 bits with jre 1.6 (then 1.5)...but nothing work...anyone can help me ?
[14:45] <Vlet> tmapj: you'd have to install kde - that's a lot of stuff to install just to use one program
[14:45] <Pici> microwaver: Okay :), nevermind me then
[14:45] <cgentry72> magnetron, root has permission that's the problem but i dont know how to change that
[14:45] <knmstrflx> bazhang: i bruteforced like a true noob, the same way i code, i shall read a bit
[14:45] <ludwi1> Pici: i'm trying to get my compiz to work on my other machine. it uses an ATI vcard.
[14:45] <xpistos> I have been trying to get usplash installed, but have been having some trouble. Could it be cause right now I have Ubuntu Ultimate installed of Ubuntu?
[14:45] <v0lksman> Andeh:  might wanna read the FAQ on the Envy site for that error....or ask in the forums...TSEliot is the authors name....he is very good with support
[14:45] <microwaver> Pici, ludwi1 don't know what ludwil is driving
[14:45] <Dvyjones> Anyon here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:46] <tmapj> vlet: how do i make a command run every time i start my computer?
[14:46] <Kcaj> Oh crap
[14:46] <bazhang> xpistos: that is not supported here iirc
[14:46] <Kcaj> I got a real bad error
[14:46] <cgentry72> tmapj, at it to your startup directory
[14:46] <slytherin> Andeh: What is your exact problem?
[14:46] <Kcaj> It says E dante-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[14:46] <tmapj> vlet: pls stay here
[14:46] <Kcaj> What do I do? ;_; happens when I try to install stuff using SYnaptic
[14:46] <sisif> v0lksman: you know what`s weird? It was working fine until I upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 :)
[14:46] <tmapj> iill brb
[14:46] <tmapj> vlet: ok?
[14:46] <BonezAU> I have an IBM T43 laptop with an Intel 910 chipset. Which would the best graphics driver for me be? I seem to be getting really poor performance with the default driver in hardy.
[14:46] <Vlet> tmapj: in the 'sessions' control panel
[14:47] <Andeh> slytherin, never mind, fixed it :)     v0lksman, it worked! :D
[14:47] <cgentry72> magnetron, so what would you suggest?
[14:47] <ludwi1> I knew i should of research before updateing.. for some odd reason i felt like i needed to but ignored it.
[14:47] <Dvyjones> Anyon here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:47] <puppetmaster> Lynet I already installed w32codec package and the same RMVB problem
[14:47] <xpistos> bazhang: That is cool, I am getting rid of it today to replace with Hardy, but I just wanted to see if I could get it working first
[14:47] <Andeh> brb ^_^
[14:47] <v0lksman> Andeh: good to hear!
[14:47] <blizzkid> ﻿﻿lo all. I get these errors on my slave dns: http://www.pastebin.org/32999
[14:47] <bazhang> BonezAU: such as running 3d games or what
[14:47] <xpistos> Is there a program easier that dvd::rip to rip a dvd to avi on my desktop?
[14:47] <luinfana> Vlet: ok, lspci says: 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[14:47] <Lynet> puppetmaster: Do you get any more exact error message, or does it just not work?
[14:47] <Aramil> anyboy has a toshiba here?and fixed the overheating problem?
[14:47] <v0lksman> BonezAU: sorry got distracted...vid driver may be an issue...do you know what card is in the machine?
[14:47] <slytherin> v0lksman: you provided wrong answer. Radeon 9000 doesn't need binary drivers. :-)
[14:48] <BonezAU> bazhang, everything in general. i don't play games... even firefox and terminals are running badly
[14:48] <BonezAU> BonezAU, it's the integrated Intel 910 chipset video card... it's all on board
[14:48] <bazhang> BonezAU: that is odd how much ram you got
[14:48] <puppetmaster> no my friend just the videos plays in slow motion
[14:48] <BonezAU> bazhang, 1gb :(
[14:48] <slytherin> xpistos: If you love command line mencoder is your friend.
[14:48] <v0lksman> slytherin: no ATI NEEDS binary drivers...however if the OSS driver isn't working then the ATI driver may be better for you
[14:48] <Dvyjones> Anyone here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:48] <xpistos> command line is good
[14:49] <BonezAU> v0lksman, it's the integrated Intel 910 chipset video card... it's all onboard
[14:49] <slytherin> v0lksman: You are still wrong. Not all cards need binary drivers. Only Radeon above 9200
[14:49] <xpistos> slytherin: And I can accomplish my good strctly from the command line?
[14:49] <xpistos> slytherin: goal I mean
[14:49] <bazhang> BonezAU: how about shutting effects completely off
[14:49] <slytherin> xpistos: yes.
[14:49] <ludwi1> does this new hardware testing program work right? in ubuntu HH
[14:49] <BonezAU> bazhang, ok i'll try that - good point
[14:50] <v0lksman> slytherin: re-read what I said....NO ati cards NEED binary drivers...the open source driver is suitable for a lot of people...but the binary is available if the open source version isn't doing what you want
[14:50] <BonezAU> bazhang, i had it set to normal, i've now set it to none.
[14:50] <xpistos> Usplash, Mencoder, now what if I want to go from Xvid to burn to a dvd?
[14:50] <Kcaj> This seems to be a popular bug/problem, nobody here knows what I can do?
[14:50] <Kcaj> It says E dante-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[14:50] <cgentry72> magnetron, are u there
[14:50] <slytherin> v0lksman: Sorry, I misunderstood
[14:50] <Ashvala> Hello
[14:50] <s3phiroth> why is the screen and resolutions utility hidden from the system menus on gutsy gibbon ?
[14:50] <shally87> question: is there any free cpanel for apache?
[14:51] <Dvyjones> Anyone here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:51] <slytherin> v0lksman: By the way AFAIK, there is no binary driver for 9000, but I may be wrong
[14:51] <v0lksman> slytherin: np...did he get it working with the binary driver or the open source?  do you know?
[14:51] <Ulmanen> I'm gonna go back to windows soon
[14:51] <v0lksman> slytherin: yeah I'm not sure either...card is WAY old... ;)
[14:51] <slytherin> v0lksman: didn't say anything
[14:51] <Ulmanen> this update drives me nuts
[14:51] <Lynet> puppetmaster: Hmm. That's kinda bummer. But, well.. Support for proprietary codecs (windows media, realvideo/audio etc) is kinda sketchy in Linux, so it is hard to know if it can be fixed by changing some settings in the player of if that particular file simply doesn't work properly in Linux yet.
[14:51] <slytherin> Ulmanen: state you rproblem
[14:51] <Ulmanen> I don't get ANY sound
[14:52] <sisif> OK. What is better to use for a Broadcom wifi card? Ndiswrapper or fwcutter ?
[14:52] <hooer> okay i have one weird thing - when I do a "reboot" it works fine, when i do a "shutdown now" it goes to a recovery menu! :P how can i get it to properly shut down?
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Ulmanen Please avoid posting your comments and opinions, this is a support room
[14:52] <glindstrom> I installed 8.04 last night.  This morning when I booted up, my screen resolution was set to 600x800.  When I did a restart, the screen resolution returned to the normal 1280x800.  If I shut down and boot is goes back to 800x600, then restart sets it back to 1280x800.  Is this the type of thing I should report somewhere as a possible bug?  I'm on a Gateway laptop that came with Vista.  I've...
[14:52] <v0lksman> puppetmaster: have you tried medibuntu (as I run and hide from the flames)
[14:52] <puppetmaster> Ok Lynet tell me what to to do
[14:52] <glindstrom> ...been running Ubunto on it for about 2 months with no problems.  Thanks.
[14:52] <bazhang> ludwi1: yeah, thanks for the reminder--works very well here
[14:52] <luinfana> bazhang: ok I have the machine up...FYI lspci says: 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Ulmanen /join #Alsa  for serious help with sound
[14:52] <puppetmaster> yes I have that in the source.list
[14:52] <slytherin> Ulmanen: which card?
[14:52] <bazhang> luinfana: what does ifconfig show eth0?
[14:52] <Ulmanen> some VT82xx
[14:53] <luinfana> eth0, eth0:avahi, and lo
[14:53] <v0lksman> puppetmaster: sry...I just tuned in...what is your issue?
[14:53] <xpistos> Anybody go an suggestions for burning a DVD from an Xvid?
[14:53] <slytherin> Ulmanen: have you restarted your machine after upgrade?
[14:53] <Ulmanen> Yes..
[14:53] <bazhang> xpistos: tried devede?
[14:53] <Dvyjones> Anyone here that made bcm4306 work on ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron using ndiswrapper?
[14:53] <slytherin> xpistos: devede
[14:53] <Kcaj> this is horrible
[14:53] <Kcaj> This bug pretty much now prevents me from doing anything
[14:53] <Kcaj> Seems well documented
[14:53] <Kcaj> but unresolved :(
[14:53] <luinfana> bazhang: eth0, eth0:avahi, and lo
[14:53] <cgentry72> I deleted my windows partition and formatted as an ext3 but now i cannot save anything to it.  It says I do not have permission.
[14:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Ulmanen have you run your volume controls all the way dwon and back up
[14:53] <slytherin> Dvyjones: no but I made it work using native drivers and firmware
[14:54] <bazhang> luinfana: cable plugged in? try sudo dhclient eth0
[14:54] <Lynet> puppetmaster: You should go look for a torrent for a version that uses a sane codec instead of tearing your hair out trying to play media that is in a proprietary and will never be properly supported in Linux codec.
[14:54] <slytherin> Ulmanen: what all applications did you try and do you see any error?
[14:54] <luinfana> bazhang: tried that, it says NO DHCPOFFERS RECIEVED
[14:54] <sisif> Dvyjones: I did. But now my wired module is not loading  :D
[14:54] <Dvyjones> slytherin: Is it woking at an acceptable spped?
[14:54] <hooer> New issue -> when I do a "reboot" it works fine, when i do a "shutdown now" it goes to a recovery menu! :P how can i get it to properly shut down?
[14:54] <Dvyjones> sisif: How?
[14:54] <puppetmaster> My RMVB files plays in slow motion & I installed w32codecs realplayer11 ubuntu-restrcted-extras mplayer binary codecs
[14:54] <slytherin> Dvyjones: yes it does.
[14:54] <bazhang> luinfana: that is really odd
[14:54] <Ulmanen> Jack_Sparrow, yes I have, from the hardware, but from the pulseaudio manager thing, it says "Connection failed: connection refused"
[14:54] <Dvyjones> slytherin: How did you do it?
[14:54] <luinfana> bazhang: the light doesn't even turn on on my switch...as if it's not connected at all
[14:54] <ludwi1> I just did a hardware testing.. yay me :P
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Ulmanen /join #Alsa  for serious help with sound
[14:55] <bazhang> luinfana: this is connected to the dsl modem directly or a router
[14:55] <ludwi1> now this comp
[14:55] <puppetmaster> Lynet i can't do that
[14:55] <sisif> Dvyjones: there are some good tutorials on ubuntuforums.org
[14:55] <luinfana> bazhang: cable -> router -> switch
[14:55] <Andeh> v0lksman: LO
[14:55] <led> i need a app that will change music formats my nero dont support wma and i need to change it from wma to mp3 any help on this would be great as i am still new to linux
[14:55] <Dvyjones> sisif: Link please?
[14:55] <cl0s> anybody else have the problem when upgrading to ubuntu where the links in evolution and pigeon dont work?
[14:55] <Dvyjones> sisif: I have searched alot after them
[14:55] <luinfana> bazhang: but I tried unplugging the switch too, i.e. modem -> router -> computer
[14:56] <cl0s> u click on them but they dont do anything?
[14:56] <puppetmaster> I want just to fix the rmvb files, So I won't have to install  a fresh copy of ubuntu
[14:56] <Andeh> v0lksman: *lol. It didnt work at all, and I had to enter recovery mode and reconfigure xorg :P
[14:56] <slytherin> Dvyjones: the b43 driver is already there. For firmware you will need to unable universe repository. Then open System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers and check the restricted driver. It will download firmware
[14:56] <bazhang> led wma? not sure if audacity can handle that proprietary format or no
[14:56] <sisif> Dvyjones: Thou I must admit, my wifi card is BCM94311MCG
[14:56] <Kcaj> Nobody here knows how ti fix danted? I never messed with any configuration files
[14:56] <v0lksman> Andeh: crap...you have a 9000 you said?
[14:56] <slytherin> puppetmaster: what is rmvb?
[14:56] <Kcaj> It just fails to start, which hinders my ability to update my system or get no packages
[14:56] <Dvyjones> slytherin: I dont have internet, you know how to do it then?
[14:56] <ludwi1> odd. the hardware testing app don't work on this machine.
[14:56] <Andeh> v0lksman: It said something was wrong with the driver so it went into low res mode. Yeah, rad 9000
[14:56] <junaid> i used skype  in ubuntu7.10 now i'm in ubuntu8.04 skype do not work.i can har sound
[14:56] <Wobe> led: there is a nautilus script that will do that
[14:56] <puppetmaster> it's a real player video files
[14:56] <uubu> Hi, help. I've just upgraded to the latest release, and I found out I can not use the keyboard in gnome after login in gdm. any ideas what to do?
[14:57] <Andeh> v0lksman: (my friends pc is really old)
[14:57] <slytherin> Dvyjones: You will have to search the linuxwireless.org site. I don't have exact link now
[14:57] <cl0s> help.... pigeon and evolution links dont open up browser in 8.04?
[14:57] <sisif> Dvyjones: there you go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=ndiswrapper
[14:57] <bazhang> puppetmaster: some will play badly in my experience what about try other rm files
[14:58] <junaid> ﻿i used skype  in ubuntu7.10 now i'm in ubuntu8.04 skype do not work.i can hear sound
[14:58] <v0lksman> Andeh: I would check in the forums...there used to be a lot of howtos for them...slytherin may have more info but the 9000 is a little too old for me...(cheap card for 40 bucks is better hahaha)
[14:58] <slytherin> puppetmaster: and in which player are you trying to play them?
[14:58] <uubu> any ideas?
[14:58] <sisif> OK. What is better to use for a Broadcom wifi card? Ndiswrapper or fwcutter ? Anyone ?
[14:58] <puppetmaster> SMPlayer
[14:58] <uubu> i can't even use the browser to search the web for answers...
[14:58] <puppetmaster> i tried all kind of things and it won't play properly
[14:58] <bazhang> http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/ Dvyjones
[14:58] <laeg> !audio
[14:58] <hooer> haha success! "shutdown now" didn't work, but "shutdown -h now" did :)
[14:58] <slytherin> Andeh: you don't need any binary driver for 9000. First tell me what is your exact problem is.
[14:59] <Andeh> v0lksman: lol.
[14:59] <cl0s> ooh fixed it!
[14:59] <cl0s> lol
[14:59] <Andeh> slytherin: The monitors resolution is not in the menu.
[14:59] <cgentry72> I deleted my windows partition and formatted as an ext3 but now i cannot save anything to it.  It says I do not have permission.
[14:59] <luinfana> bazhang: any other ideas, short of slapping another card in there? I don't have another one lying around.
[14:59] <hooer> yikes midnight, ciao all
[14:59] <Lynet> puppetmaster: Your best bets are vlc or mplayer. If neither of them work properly, tell whoever you got the files from to encode/convert them to a more sane video format.
[15:00] <xpistos> Okay fellas Devede it is
[15:00] <slytherin> Andeh: What resolution do you want?
[15:00] <Andeh> slytherin: The dude had windows before and today im putting linux on instead and i noticed the screens a bit blurry :)
[15:00] <puppetmaster> no dear
[15:00] <puppetmaster> it works just fine in windows
[15:00] <Andeh> slytherin: thats the problem. I forgot to check what the monitors resolution was before we deleted windows
[15:00] <Lynet> puppetmaster: So use a windows tool to transcode them then, dude.
[15:00] <Jupp> where are my compiz settings stored?
[15:00] <Kcaj> Yays I just fixed my own first real serious problem! :D go me! :)
[15:00] <kling0n> i need to import some settings from a backup .gconf directory ... does anyone know the syntax to make gconftool import from the specified dir?
[15:00] <erUSUL> !addingfs | cgentry72
[15:00] <Andeh> slytherin: I was hoping it could autodetect it or something
[15:01] <ludwi1> yesterday i did try to find info about this issue i got with the other machine.. it seems that xorg is on twice. well I see two xorg process's and both with the same size. 46.4MB. any idea how to fix that?
[15:01] <ThcHere2> Hi All
[15:01] <slytherin> Andeh: have you set highest resolution in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?
[15:01] <DeeJayTwo> hi..
[15:01] <puppetmaster> what is the meaning of that dear, that I should depend in windows
[15:01] <SeicherlBoB> How can i redetect the hardware at runtime? The problem is, that i don't have USB-Ports or network interfaces when docking my laptop while running. Can i force a redetection?
[15:01] <DeeJayTwo> I have some problems with my package updates..
[15:01] <Wobe> Jupp: Install the compiz settings manager via synaptic
[15:01] <DeeJayTwo> it fails to download the packages: Translation-en_CA
[15:01] <puppetmaster> and I don't wanna do that, isn't there a package like k-lite in windows
[15:01] <DeeJayTwo> in restricted, universe and multiverse
[15:01] <laeg> puppetmaster: gstreamer
[15:02] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 First, check to see what the ownership is by going to /media and doing a ls -la ... Then, do the following, replacing “yourPartition” with the name of the partition (e.g. /sdb1)... sudo chown -R username:username /yourPartition  followed by... sudo chmod -R 755 /yourPartition    someone please verify I got this right....
[15:02] <erUSUL> puppetmaster: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:02] <Andeh> slytherin: The highest two are 1280x1024 and 16
[15:02] <DeeJayTwo> how can I fix it?
[15:02] <Andeh> slytherin:  and 1600x1200
[15:02] <laeg> puppetmaster: open the file in totem movie player, it should recommend a codec for you if it cannot play
[15:02] <Jupp> Wobe, if I want to backup my settings which files would I need to back up?
[15:02] <DeeJayTwo> I'm using hardy heron
[15:02] <ThcHere2> Question: How can I find which user account is running my apache server pls?
[15:02] <puppetmaster> thank u but the problem I installed that
[15:02] <puppetmaster> Ok
[15:02] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok thank you
[15:02] <Andeh> slytherin: 1280 is too low and 1600 is too high
[15:02] <luinfana> guys, I'm absolutely determined to make this Realtek crap work with Ubuntu...surely someone knows some dark magic I can use
[15:02] <Wobe> Jupp: for compiz?
[15:02] <laeg> brb
[15:03] <ldleworker> Can anyone recommend a laptop in the 500-800 dollar market that is suitable for modern linux?
[15:03] <DeeJayTwo> http://www.pastebin.ca/1002896
[15:03] <Jupp> Wobe, yes
[15:03] <DeeJayTwo> this is the error I get
[15:03]  * Scrounch is now away: off
[15:03] <slytherin> Andeh: Try this command 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' it will help you generate new xorg.conf file. You will need a reboot after that to get additional resolutions
[15:03] <Andeh> slytherin: I fixed it!
[15:03] <bazhang> http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=759268 luinfana look here please
[15:03] <slytherin> xpistos: FYI - http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/man/en/mplayer.1.html#EXAMPLES%20OF%20MENCODER%20USAGE
[15:03] <bazhang> !away > Scrounch
[15:03] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, permission is root
[15:03] <ilembitov> How do I set my $home variable manually?
[15:03] <Andeh> slytherin: The res WAS 1280 800 but the refresh rate was too high so it was really blurry!
[15:03] <erUSUL> slytherin: sudo is dangerous for graphical apps please use gksudo
[15:03] <Andeh> its perfect now! thanks
[15:04] <ThcHere2> ﻿Question: How can I find which user account is running my apache server pls?
[15:04] <Andeh> :D
[15:04] <Wobe> Jupp: /home/username/.compiz
[15:04] <Andeh> thanks. bye
[15:04] <bazhang> thanks for that info slytherin
[15:04] <ldleworker> Can anyone recommend a laptop in the 500-800 dollar market that is suitable for modern linux?
[15:04] <erUSUL> ThcHere2: ps ax | grep httpd ??
[15:05] <ThreeFingerPete> hardy is running  much more sluggish on my  machine, despite no hardware changes. I've tried the kernel that comes with it, and also the 7.10 default kernel. is there something I can optimise?
[15:05] <erUSUL> ldleworker: dell with ubuntu preinstaled?
[15:05] <luinfana> bazhang: thanks, I'll take a look
[15:05] <ldleworker> really?
[15:05] <Kcaj> Argh :( my Ubuntu has become entirely useless
[15:05] <Wobe> ThreeFingerPete: It's faster here, check the running services.
[15:05] <xxxxxxx>  I installed ubuntu using a sub drive now it will not boot unless the usb drive is present can I fix this?
[15:05] <Kcaj> E: dante-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:05] <ThreeFingerPete> Wobe: ok.
[15:06] <bazhang> ldleworker: offopic here but someting with mostly intel-->system76.com is worth a look
[15:06] <Kcaj> I can't install new packages or anythng, I thought I fixed dante-server, I finally got danted to start with no errors
[15:06] <ThcHere2> erUSUL: 29705 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep httpd
[15:06] <Kcaj> and still... this seems to be a well documented bug of some sort with no fix :/
[15:06] <ThcHere2> lol
[15:06] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i did what u said but should i reboot?
[15:06] <Wobe> ldleworker: hp would be my first choice, avoid ati video though
[15:06] <BonezAU> ThcHere2, try ps -aux |grep apache
[15:07] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, because I'm still not able to move anything there
[15:07] <Pici> Kcaj: Can you run apt-get install -f from a terminal and pastebin the output?
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 yes
[15:07] <Kcaj> I don't really need danted whatever it is, what should I do? I mean any recommendations?
[15:07] <ThreeFingerPete> wobe: there certainly is more running, but i am unsure whats not needed
[15:07] <Kcaj> Pici: Ok
[15:07] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok thank you
[15:07] <erUSUL> ThcHere2: ps ax | grep apache ??
[15:07] <strawks> Hi all, I was previously using lightning 0.7 (pkg lightning-extension) and when I upgrade to lightning 0.8 I don't have any calendar anymore and can't create new calendars
[15:07] <ThcHere2> hmmm...
[15:07] <ThcHere2> weird
[15:07] <ThcHere2> root (?!)
[15:07] <Wobe> ThreeFingerPete: if you dont have bluetooth shut that off, indexing might also be going on which will slow the machine down.
[15:08] <ThcHere2> or www-data
[15:08] <erUSUL> ThcHere2: ps aux | grep apache (the u is needed to see the user ;)
[15:08] <Kcaj> Pastebin coming in one second
[15:08] <bazhang> just signed my code of conduct today ;]
[15:08] <susheel> hi there...
[15:08] <bazhang> hi susheel
[15:08] <strawks> googling around I found that it was a good idea to uninstall previous version before upgrading, so I uninstalled 0.7 and created a new profile, but still the same : I can't create a new calendar
[15:08] <Kcaj> http://pastebin.org/33003
[15:08] <ThcHere2> erUSUL:  well i get most instances with www-data but one with root too...
[15:09] <noelferreira> can anyone tell me how to stop the system of automatically change the brigthness level without disbable acpi? this is driving me crazy.
[15:09] <strawks> Is somebody using lightning 0.8?
[15:09] <Andeh> does anyone know a howto that explains how to make ubuntu as similar to windows as possible?
[15:09] <Andeh> not for me, my friends are a little confused about it
[15:09] <bazhang> Andeh: you really want that?
[15:09] <Andeh> lol
[15:09] <Andeh> they do
[15:09] <erUSUL> ThcHere2: i use my system for desktop mainly so dunno much about apache
[15:09] <bamed> Andeh: BSODs and everything?
[15:09] <ThcHere2> ok thx :)
[15:10] <bazhang> !themes | Andeh
[15:10] <Kcaj> By the way, anybdy who looks at my pastebin, I have no idea what danted is or dante-server
[15:10] <Andeh> i mean i can arrange the panels and stuff on them but the rest?
[15:10] <bon-jovi> nick tifanny
[15:10] <ThcHere2> bamed:  LOL
[15:10] <Andeh> lol
[15:10] <ThreeFingerPete> wobe: i killed the power management services too. what about CPU frequency manager?
[15:10] <TheInfinity> Andeh: if they really still want to use windows - let them - and buy a tshirt "no i dont fix your windows" - then they will come to you soon ;)
[15:10] <Wobe> ThreeFingerPete: not needed unless on a laptop
[15:10] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'm sorry but that didn't work either :(
[15:10] <TheInfinity> with the wish to habe linux :D
[15:10] <TheInfinity> *have
[15:11] <ThreeFingerPete> wobe: thank you. i suspected so.
[15:11] <ludwi1> I like never use search on my machine. tracker seems to be on as defualt. how could i turn that off?
[15:11] <CarpediEm_> hi
[15:11] <ldleworker> Wobe, are the power and cpu management services installed by default?
[15:11] <CarpediEm_> how are you
[15:11] <laeg> ludwi1: i'm not even sure waht it does
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 check permissions on that partition again
[15:11] <bazhang> hello CarpediEm_
[15:11] <Wobe> ThreeFingerPete: np
[15:11] <schitzo> hello
[15:11] <Kcaj> I fixed the problem by the way
[15:11] <Tipolosko> hello :)
[15:11] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[15:11] <Kcaj> you have to start danted and figure out the problem, edit the conf until it works, then STOP danted and then it all works
[15:12] <CarpediEm_> I am Turkey  yOu?
[15:12] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, still says root
[15:12] <Kcaj> having it started before-hand seems to make it fail automatically
[15:12] <hellues> my nvidia doesnt work
[15:12] <Wobe> ldleworker: not to my knowledge, unless ubuntu detects the need for them, as I recall I did it manually
[15:12] <PiojoSSo> would﻿ someone please﻿ tell﻿ me﻿ how﻿ to﻿ mount﻿ an﻿ *.ISO﻿ file﻿﻿ ?
[15:12] <atlef> !ask | CarpediEm_: schitzo: Tipolosko:
[15:12] <ludwi1> it helps find stuff on the comp.. that's all i know about it
[15:12] <bazhang> !tr | CarpediEm_
[15:12] <ThreeFingerPete> what is RPC map doing?
[15:12] <schitzo> that's a secret
[15:12] <Flannel> !iso | PiojoSSo
[15:12] <Wobe> hellues: a little more detail would help :)
[15:12] <hellues> just a second
[15:13] <luinfana> bazhang: that didn't really solve the problem unfortunately
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 THen you didnt get the permissions set correctly...  I am still half asleep, I may have missed something...   bazhang  can you review what I told him to do..  apreciate it..
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 First, check to see what the ownership is by going to /media and doing a ls -la ... Then, do the following, replacing “yourPartition” with the name of the partition (e.g. /sdb1)... sudo chown -R username:username /yourPartition  followed by... sudo chmod -R 755 /yourPartition    someone please verify I got this right....
[15:13] <Andeh> woah. the xp imitations on gnome-look are... well
[15:13] <noelferreira> can anyone tell me how to stop the system of automatically change the brigthness level without disbable acpi? this is driving me crazy.
[15:13] <luinfana> bazhang: still says no dhcpoffers recieved
[15:13] <Andeh> inaccurate
[15:13] <Kcaj> lol
[15:13] <Kcaj> I like the OSX skin
[15:13] <Ace_NoOne> in GEdit (and other apps), EOL is not a "stop sign" when using CTRL+RightArrow - is there a way to change that?
[15:13] <Wobe> Why do people want it to look like xp or osx anyway?
[15:13] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow: sure no problem
[15:13] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, mine is /sda1
[15:13] <Wobe> I never got that
[15:13] <alons> ciao
[15:14] <bazhang> luinfana: you did the sudo ifup eth0
[15:14] <Kcaj> I like using the OS X one because the default gnome looks like TRASH
[15:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 post the exact line you typed into the term please
[15:14] <thebloggu> can someone with linux experience help me with a problem? (upgrading to 8.04)
[15:14] <bazhang> !it | alons
[15:14] <Pici> Kcaj: Do you have a support question? Or are you just making comments here?
[15:14] <Kcaj> Seriously, default gnome is one of the absolute worst lookin and clunky feeling GUI ever, since Windows 3.1. It isn't half bad with the OS X skin though.
[15:14] <Kcaj> Pici
[15:14] <luinfana> bazhang: yes, it said "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" so I did sudo ifdown eth0, then sudo ifup eth0, but that didn't help either
[15:14] <Kcaj> I did have like 20 support questions
[15:14] <ESR_> Looking for recommendations for a graphics card that can do both 3D and 2048x1536 under Ubuntu Hardy.  NVidia GeForce can do 1048x1536 without 3D, ATI 2600 can't do either, I'm pretty disgusted.
[15:14] <bazhang> thebloggu: please ask away
[15:14] <Wobe> thebloggu: just spit out the problem
[15:14] <Tipolosko> i've a little problem wit hardy on my notebook acer 1522wlmi: with the new distro i can't toggle on/of integrated wifi nor integrated bluetooth.. but while ubuntu is booting these keys (with leds) will work fine.. but, once booted, these buttons are "freezed".. any clue?
[15:15] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, sudo chown -R christopher:christopher /sda1.  however, /sda1 gave me an err so i tried just sda1 without the /
[15:15] <Pici> !offtopic | Kcaj
[15:15] <luinfana> bazhang: also tried changing the settings in Network from "Roaming Mode" to "Assigned by DHCP"
[15:15] <Kcaj> Most of which I end up answering my self through trial and error because it seems the only thing most people here do is say irrelevant things unrealted to actually helping people :P oh, and I've helped several people since I've been here
[15:15] <alons> scusate sapete dirmi dove trovare la versione italiana
[15:15] <mandana> How to check for open ports to see if a specific service is started via inetd? what does it mean to 'check for the open ports?'
[15:15] <CarpediEm_> www mIRCTR org
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj Please try to stay on topic.. for chat we use Ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <hellues> it says nvidia graphic driver not initailized
[15:15] <Wobe> Kcaj: I agree it's a little ugly, but hardly unusable
[15:15] <hellues> !paste
[15:16] <Dvyjones> !it | alons
[15:16] <microwaver_> anyone knows a good wireless sniffer?
[15:16] <Tipolosko> mandana: tou need to use a port scanner,
[15:16] <bamed> mandana: netstat will let u know what ports are open
[15:16] <Tipolosko> you :D
[15:16] <bazhang> sudo lshw -C network pastebin this luinfana
[15:16] <mandana> thank you Tipolosko , bamed
[15:16] <alons> perfetto grazie
[15:17] <Pici> !it | alons
[15:17] <bazhang> luinfana: roaming? for ethernet? how about a total networking restart first
[15:17] <kklimonda> anyone know if any ftp server allow chrooting users in their home directories and using of directory aliases?
[15:17] <luinfana> bazhang: can't...the machine's not connected to the internet...
[15:17] <hellues> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8942/ my xorg.conf
[15:17] <Vlet> Kcaj: you should try ratpoison then :p
[15:17] <hellues> how can i set this to work with nvidia-glx
[15:18] <luinfana> bazhang: oh, I don't know why it said roaming, it was just that way by default
[15:18] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, when i do a ls -la it says christopher christopher instead of root though
[15:18] <p0l> Hi, when I try to update from 7.10 to 8.04 I get next error: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages in  Meta-index file (malformed Release file?), any idea?, thans
[15:18] <thebloggu> i was upgrading but was force to interrupt because it stood still in scrollkeeper file names blacklist.xml (one line i dont remember) then i continued the upgrade later in command line. it installed and rebooted. later tried dpkg --configure -a to correct mistakes but still there were problems with scrollkeeper and mpd. i decided to remove scrollkeeper (via synaptic) but  it removed synaptic and gnome-terminal too. i used urxvt and installed synap
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 for which partition?
[15:18] <bazhang> luinfana: still need that pastebin though
[15:18] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, sda1
[15:18] <luinfana> bazhang: ok, hold on
[15:19] <Wobe> hellues: drivers installed?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 please tell me that your ubuntu install isnt on that drive, I understood you created a data partition there?
[15:19] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle
[15:19] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, no it's not on there
[15:19] <Flannel> p0l: Get rid of the hardy backports line in your sources
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 needed to clarify that.
[15:20] <hellues> yes
[15:20] <hellues> nvidia-glx
[15:20] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, heres the situation.  i had a dual boot (windows/ubuntu) i wanted to make sure ubuntu worked correctly so i deleted the windows partition,formatted it as ext3 and changed grub
[15:20] <hellues>  nvidia-glx installed
[15:20] <Vlet> luinfana: I think I may have found you a solution
[15:20] <bazhang> Dvyjones: so the fw cutter worked out after all?
[15:20] <Wobe> brb folks hellues help ya in a sec
[15:20] <Kcaj> cgentry72
[15:20] <Vlet> luinfana: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91746
[15:20] <Kcaj> I told you, you need the Windows install disk
[15:20] <latitu> in LAN, how can i know how many computers are online and by what ip?]
[15:20] <Dvyjones> bazhang: Yes
[15:20] <thebloggu> some help
[15:20] <thebloggu> please?
[15:20] <Kcaj> and fix /mbr
[15:20] <Dvyjones> bazhang: Sorta
[15:21] <Kcaj> (master boot record)
[15:21] <bazhang> !enter | thebloggu
[15:21] <Tipolosko> latitu: use nmap to scan the entire subnet of your network
[15:21] <thebloggu> sorry
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 ask bazhang  to double check things gimme a chance to have some coffee and wake up
[15:21] <cgentry72> Kcaj, what? i don't want windows, i just deleted windows so i could use the space for other things
[15:21] <Tipolosko> latitu: something like nmap 192.168.0.0/24 -sP
[15:21] <abanta> hi, someone got a good tuto on the product developpement? Product structure etc?
[15:21] <Kcaj> Possibly you cna use another disk
[15:21] <Kcaj> to try and reinstall grub
[15:21] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle. Any idea why?
[15:21] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, hehe hey i understand, i'm going to get a cup and a cig too brb thanks
[15:21] <RyanT5000> is there any way to change the *disk* priority of a process?
[15:21] <luinfana> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/m4a554510
[15:22] <Kcaj> but either way what happened is, you removed the partition with your boot loader on it I am assuming
[15:22] <bullgard4> What programs will use the configuration file ~.fonts.conf?
[15:22] <erUSUL> RyanT5000: ionice
[15:22] <LjL> RyanT5000: uh
[15:22] <Kcaj> and you need to replace it, which is very difficult to do since your MBR is now fsckd
[15:22] <LjL> err, what he said
[15:22] <cgentry72> Kcaj, are you speaking to me?
[15:22] <erUSUL> bullgard4: xft ?
[15:22] <RyanT5000> thanks
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 one sec?
[15:22] <BonezAU> bazhang, thanks for all your help - turning off the graphic effects has made my system run heaps better.
[15:22] <latitu> Tipolosko ic.. how many ips are available for local area private networking ? like 192.*.*.* is?
[15:22] <Vlet> luinfana: Basically, you want to do this at a terminal: sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup && nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:22] <Kcaj> Yes, sorry I mean obviously once I start the train of conversation with you, best I can do is throw your name in every once in a while :P
[15:22] <erUSUL> bullgard4: libxft i guess
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 your hard drive installed ubuntu works correct?
[15:22] <luinfana> Vlet: yes, I've read this post many times
[15:23] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, yup great, i'm using it right now
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 thanks..
[15:23] <Vlet> luinfana: oh :-/
[15:23] <bazhang> BonezAU: glad to hear it ;]
[15:23] <Vlet> luinfana: no luck?
[15:23] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle. Any idea why?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj please avoid giving out wrong information
[15:23] <BonezAU> bazhang, stupid company laptop with crappy onboard graphics :P
[15:23] <p0l> Flannel, how can I do it?
[15:23] <microwaver_> exit
[15:23] <luinfana> Vlet: well, I want to get Internet working on the LiveCD before I install...
[15:23] <luinfana> Vlet: so I can't try messing with grub unless I actually install
[15:24] <Kcaj> Wait wait, so cgentry72, you just can't mount the drive, or what>
[15:24] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Can you explain how a library can use a config file. I thought a library is a collection of routines provided for executables.
[15:24] <Vlet> luinfana: oh... well, that might be tricky
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj Your disjointed comments have nothing to do with his problem
[15:24] <latitu> Tipolosko it is saying 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.249 appears to be up
[15:24] <Jasone> i am having the worst time getting an ubuntu share mounted in osx
[15:24] <bazhang> Dvyjones: you tried changing that in the router first--to completely open; wep is not worth much these days
[15:24] <Kcaj> As far as I understood the question earlier, he could not boot, must have misread
[15:24] <hydrozen> is there a way to run a virtual pc image on ubuntu using any one of the virtualization solutions available???
[15:24] <cgentry72> Kcaj, lol i can mount it, i can access it however i cannot save anything there or move anything there
[15:24] <Kcaj> (I'm talking about from 20 minutes ago or so)
[15:24] <bamed> ugg
[15:24] <Vlet> luinfana: I don't know for sure, but that might not be possible then
[15:24] <murrayc> bullgard4: routines (functions) can open files.
[15:24] <Jasone> ive tried security = user
[15:25] <Jasone> security = share
[15:25] <luinfana> Vlet: so I guess I should just install and hope for the best?
[15:25] <BonezAU> lol @ dosbox & arj unpacking files. 30 meg of files, not even half way through 10 minutes later......
[15:25] <bazhang> hydrozen: virtual pc the software package? why would you wish to do that?
[15:25] <Jasone> map to guest = bad user
[15:25] <Dvyjones> bazhang: I'm not allowed to change that in the router :(
[15:25] <mdarcelin> greetings everyone.  I'm having a bit of trouble understanding this error message: no root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu.  Background info: attempting to install 7.10 because my computer refuses to install or even load 8.04.  I have tried wiping out my windows installation but it won't allow me to for some reason.
[15:25] <thebloggu> still no help? anyone?
[15:25] <hydrozen> bazhang: its just that microsoft they release images that you can use to test ie6.. ie7
[15:25] <ikonia> thebloggu: what is your question
[15:25] <Vlet> luinfana: what's the worst that could happen... if you decide you don't want it, you can boot off the live-cd and resize your windows partition back to normal
[15:25] <cgentry72> ok guys i'm going for a cig so i'll be back shortly, just appreciate any help from ya guys
[15:25] <bullgard4> murrayc: Ah, yes. This is true. --  Thank you for explaining.
[15:25] <thebloggu> ﻿i was upgrading but was force to interrupt because it stood still in scrollkeeper file names blacklist.xml (one line i dont remember) then i continued the upgrade later in command line. it installed and rebooted. later tried dpkg --configure -a to correct mistakes but still there were problems with scrollkeeper and mpd. i decided to remove scrollkeeper (via synaptic) but  it removed synaptic and gnome-terminal too. i used urxvt and installed sy
[15:26] <ikonia> thebloggu: saying "anyone " is pointless, as I didn't see your question so I can't respond, in future just repeate the question at regular intervals
[15:26] <Lr5> After hibernating in Ubuntu 8.04, network stops working, anyone knows how to fix that?
[15:26] <hydrozen> bazhang: but im guessing i might just install a windows box instead....
[15:26] <BonezAU> hydrozen, IE6 runs in wine if you are interested, google IES4Linux
[15:26] <bazhang> hydrozen: better to either dual boot or use ie-whatever in wine--you could also use windows in a vm
[15:26] <luinfana> Vlet: this is true...but for some reason gparted doesn't work off the hardy CD...I think I'm going to grab the gparted livecd and try that
[15:26] <ikonia> thebloggu: ok, so what do you wanto to achieve ? you want synaptic back ?
[15:26] <thebloggu> no
[15:26] <Dvyjones> mdarcelin: Why wont it load 8.04?
[15:26] <luinfana> Vlet: it just sits there at "resizing" and does absolutely nothing
[15:26] <erUSUL> bullgard4: it seems that /etc/fonts/fonts.conf comes with fontconfig not with xft ...
[15:26] <ikonia> thebloggu: what do you want then
[15:26] <thebloggu> first i want to correct de upgrade
[15:26] <thebloggu> get rid of the errors
[15:27] <thebloggu> then correct resolution
[15:27] <Vlet> luinfana: I've noticed the same, but the actual installer has never failed me (as far as resizing goes)
[15:27] <ikonia> thebloggu: ok so how do you plan to do that ?
[15:27] <mdarcelin> dvyjones, it simply refuses to even load the live CD
[15:27] <Dvyjones> mdarcelin: By the way, the anser is  that you have to change mount point on one of the partitions to /
[15:27] <thebloggu> tried dpkg --configure -a no luck
[15:27] <bazhang> thebloggu: easy on the enter key please
[15:27] <thebloggu> sorry
[15:27] <Lr5> ubottu's a bit broken?
[15:27] <Dvyjones> mdarcelin: I had that problem too, try to burn the cd at slowest possible burning speed
[15:27] <mdarcelin> I think I named the biggest partition /home? is that bad?
[15:27] <ikonia> thebloggu: update-manager --dist-upgrade
[15:27] <mdarcelin> ohhh ok
[15:28] <mdarcelin> I just kept the burning speed at the default setting
[15:28] <Flannel> p0l: either comment out the line in /etc/apt/sources.list, or go through software sources and remove the backports
[15:28] <mohamed> hi i have a question
[15:28] <luinfana> Vlet: OK then...install commencing.
[15:28] <ikonia> mohamed: go for it
[15:28] <bullgard4> erUSUL: Thank you for your information.
[15:28] <Pampa> hi to all
[15:28] <BonezAU> Hi Pampa
[15:28] <Dvyjones> mdarcelin: The cd often gets corrupt if you burn too fast.
[15:28] <mohamed> i am using 8.04 hardy heron now i made firefox mplayer as my plugin
[15:28] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle. Any idea why?
[15:28] <RyanT5000> how can i determine which processes are using the most disk?
[15:28] <ikonia> mohamed: you want mplayer to work in firefox ?
[15:28] <mohamed> when i goto some website and see videos i cannot make it full screen why
[15:28] <Pampa> i've resolve problem of WIFI on 6720S with BCM4312 (rev02) solution is on the ubuntu forum
[15:29] <mohamed> yes ikonia
[15:29] <platius> 8.04 amd64, After I select System > Quit it takes 1 min. for the window to appear.  Cannot find anything on the net that is simular to it.
[15:29] <SeicherlBoB> Can someone tell me what this syslog-entry means (it happens after i docked my laptop - docking stations USB ports refuse to work): kernel: [ 4191.408000] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:02:00.0 at offset f (was ffffffff, writing 10b)
[15:29] <erUSUL> bullgard4: no problem ;) "locate fonts.conf" --> dpkg -S /etc/fonts/fonts.conf --> aptitude search fontconfig
[15:29] <ikonia> mohamed: not all plguins work full screen (I don't know about mplayer)
[15:29] <}MatriX{> any photoshop expert ?
[15:29] <bullgard4> RyanT5000: Run the program 'top' in a GNOME terminal.
[15:29] <mohamed> so which one i should use
[15:29] <ikonia> }MatriX{: photoshop isn't in ubuntu
[15:29] <BonezAU> }MatriX{, ??
[15:29] <Dvyjones> !offtopic | }MatriX{
[15:29] <mohamed> when i tried live cd of mint linux it worked full screen how
[15:29] <magnetron> }MatriX{: this is the Ubuntu support channel
[15:29] <berzerka> i am trying to recompile libusb from source since i need debug output enabled. i installed openjade and docbook-dsssl as build-dependancy, but dpkg-buildpackage fails with lots of errors from openjade of the kind "openjade:../../doc/functions.sgml:111:20:E: element "FUNCDEF" undefined". what am i missing?
[15:30] <ikonia> mohamed: are you using ubuntu or mind ?
[15:30] <ikonia> mint
[15:30] <ThreeFingerPete> Wobe: you were a big help. it also seems my restricted graphics driver was turned off when i upgraded
[15:30] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle. Any idea why?
[15:30] <mohamed> i am using ubuntu i just tried live cd of mint linux
[15:30] <mohamed>  i only want to use ubuntu how tell me if you know it
[15:30] <ikonia> mohamed: ok,
[15:30] <ikonia> mohamed: I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your question as I don't use mplayer as a plugin in firefox
[15:30] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: i don't see a column for disk usage
[15:30] <balgarath> Any way in Ubuntu to get the specs on my hard drive?
[15:30] <p0l> Flannel, I have commented my Backports lines and I get the same, but in my sources.list I don't have any references to hardy
[15:30] <ikonia> mohamed: if you hang around someone else maybe able to help
[15:30] <Wobe> ThreeFingerPete: np, it's what I do
[15:31] <mohamed> ok
[15:31] <ikonia> balgarath: what sort of spec ?
[15:31] <Wobe> hellues: still stuck?
[15:31] <mohamed> do you know what player mint linux is using
[15:31] <ikonia> mohamed: no idea
[15:31] <mohamed> ok thanks
[15:31] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: something's thrashing my disk, without using much CPU
[15:31] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 here is another way to skin that cat Dvyjones
[15:31] <balgarath> ikonia, speed
[15:31] <IRWolfie-> what is the refresh rate used by default in the ubuntu install?
[15:31] <ikonia> balgarath: hdparm
[15:31] <balgarath> ikonia, thanks :)
[15:32] <BonezAU> RyanT5000, what does top show?
[15:32] <bullgard4> RyanT5000: My top shows me a column headed '%MEM'.
[15:32] <T4K> Hey guy I love ubuntu 8.04 but I have one aggreviating problem. I've gone to many forums to try and get my cell card on my dell laptop to work "Novatel 5700" i ran gnome-ppp and got it to connect. But it still have lack of lcp echo responses and it exits. Even when it is connected I can't use firefox to browse always says am offline. But instant messenger and such connect. Any ideas?
[15:32] <mrichman> Where can I get some decent looking fonts? The default fonts look horribly wide to me.
[15:32] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i'm on the 8.04 beta, do i need to do anything particular to update through to the final 8.04 release?
[15:32] <ikonia> NET||abuse: just update it
[15:32] <latitu> the /24 means 0.0.0.*            how to make 0.0.*.*?
[15:32] <bazhang> !fonts | mrichman
[15:32] <ikonia> NET||abuse: do a disk upgrade
[15:32] <BonezAU> NET||abuse, just update via apt-get or synaptic
[15:32] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: i don't want memory usage, i want disk transactions
[15:32] <ikonia> NET||abuse: dist upgrade sorry
[15:32] <ikonia> typo
[15:32] <Jasone> does anyone have the problem of ubuntu shares being visible in osx but not being aboe to mount them
[15:33] <Dvyjones> My b43-fwcutter-configured card keeps asking or the WEP key when I connect if I choose Open System, but if i use Shared Key it just tries to connect, before i get a network icon with orange triangle. Any idea why?
[15:33] <Jasone> able*
[15:33] <noelferreira> can anyone tell me how to stop the system of automatically change the brigthness level without disbable acpi? this is driving me crazy.
[15:33] <BonezAU> NET||abuse, yeah - or dist upgrade. I have been running rc for ages and just kept updating
[15:33] <NET||abuse> ikonia, cheers, yeh, just wasn't sure if i needed to dist-upgrade or not between beta and final release, or if it just "streamed online"
[15:33] <ikonia> noelferreira: set your power managment schemes
[15:33] <ikonia> NET||abuse: dist-upgrade, play it saf
[15:33] <ikonia> safe
[15:33] <bazhang> Jasone: problem with osx--need to enable them on that side as well-->##apple can help
[15:33] <bullgard4> RyanT5000: Do you want to know temporary disk usage or permanent disk usage?
[15:33] <NET||abuse> ikonia, will do.
[15:33] <artir_> clean install
[15:33] <Jasone> bazhang: what do you mean
[15:34] <Jasone> it worked before i upgraded to 8.04
[15:34] <NET||abuse> synaptic doesn't have it's usual message of "a newer distribution is available"
[15:34] <bazhang> Jasone: need to enable sharing on both sides
[15:34] <ikonia> NET||abuse: update-manager --dist-upgrade
[15:34] <bazhang> NET||abuse: you got the beta installed?
[15:34] <Jasone> bazhang: that doesnt make any sense
[15:34] <IRWolfie-> does ubuntu try set the refresh rate to 85 during the startup from the live cd?
[15:34] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: neither - i want to know how much disk throughput the program is demanding - e.g.: MB/s or similar
[15:34] <NET||abuse> bazhang, yep
[15:34] <BonezAU> How do I get dosbox in full screen?
[15:34] <noelferreira> ikonia, i can't . there's no option anymore. i have it on the beta version but now i have a fresh install and i don't have that option anymore. i don't even have on-battery tab
[15:34] <mdarcelin> Say I have a silly question: is it better to name the main partition /home or /boot?
[15:34] <bazhang> then just update and upgrade--> sudo apt-get
[15:35] <Dvyjones> First time ever on ubuntu (eventhough ive used it for a couple of years: It hangs!!! How do i shut down processes? I cant open the menu, as it keeps hanging
[15:35] <Turno> is anyone using an agp nvidia card on an nforce2 mb with integrated graphics? My system works fine with nv, but when i move to nvidia, i just get a black screen.... logs look fine
[15:35] <NET||abuse> lately the beta .16 kernel broke my audio too, so really happy to be able to move to stable ;)
[15:35] <ikonia> mdarcelin: the main partition is / not /boot or /home
[15:35] <Lr5> The kernel latest kernel (2.6.24-16 I guess) doesn't seem to always recognize irqpoll option, sometimes it tells to use it even when it's in the boot options
[15:35] <NET||abuse> And our lug is having release party tomorrow night :) want to have this machine up and ready to work for that ;)
[15:35] <talcite_> hey guys, where are the PHP compile options located?
[15:35] <NET||abuse> will burn a few copies and distribute ;)
[15:35] <talcite_> was it bugzilla?
[15:35] <ikonia> talcite_: phpinfo ()
[15:35] <mdarcelin> oh so what should I name it? I'm at the partitioning stage
[15:36] <talcite_> ikonia: surprisingly, it doesn't have it
[15:36] <ikonia> talcite_: it should do
[15:36] <NET||abuse> talcite, What you mean exactly? they're input on the command line when you compile?
[15:36] <talcite_> I can't find out whether mySQL support was enabled or not
[15:36] <ikonia> mdarcelin: it's called /
[15:36] <ikonia> talcite_: it's modular
[15:36] <NET||abuse> talcite_, ahh, likely you just need to install php4_mysql
[15:36] <Dvyjones> First time ever on ubuntu (eventhough ive used it for a couple of years: It hangs!!! How do i shut down processes? I cant open the menu, as it keeps hanging
[15:36] <NET||abuse> ahem,, i mean php5
[15:36] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: nvm, i found it - it eventually became by far the most memory-using task (up to 1.6 GB of physical RAM now)
[15:36] <talcite_> oh...
[15:36] <ikonia> talcite_: apt-cache search php5-mysql
[15:36] <mdarcelin> ah ok..thanks ikonia!
[15:37] <wangfg> hello, why the hardy install.iso  works on the desktop, but hangt after load kernel 100%?
[15:37] <mdarcelin> unfortunately I waited too long and now it froze on me
[15:37] <ikonia> !away > bamed|away
[15:37] <talcite_> ikonia: thanks
[15:37] <bullgard4> RyanT5000: Usually disk throughput is limited by the disk and its controller. The disk will deliver data as fast as it can (together with its controller).  Run  'hdparm -tT /dev/sda'.
[15:37] <ikonia> talcite_: no problem
[15:37] <RyanT5000> bullgard4: thanks
[15:38] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok i'm back lol
[15:38] <Flannel> p0l: pastebin your sources.list, also check to see if theres anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:38] <Dvyjones> g2g
[15:38]  * Mimi Question: I have been enjoying Hardy Heron soooo much, but now, out of a sudden.... I can't play any of my music.. I double click it.. nothing happens... O.o Any help? Thanks =^..^=
[15:39] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i wonder if i should just delete the partition and reformat it again
[15:40] <p0l> Flannel: My current sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8950/
[15:40] <latitu> i just scanned the network  (having 150 computers) as nmap 192.168.0.0/16 -sP   and it is giving like 500 pcs are online...... why?
[15:40] <hellues> hey
[15:40] <hellues> my nvidia not work
[15:40] <Wobe> hellues: better?
[15:41] <Wobe> did you try envy?
[15:41] <hellues> i installed nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-source
[15:41] <hellues> envy what is envy
[15:41] <Mimi> !envy
[15:41] <Wobe> envy is a script that will setup drivers and x for you
[15:41] <T4K> So anyone know how to get firefox to work using my ppp0 connection
[15:41] <hellues> hmm
[15:41] <T4K> it seems to be not working... only and fire fox that is
[15:41] <hellues> how can i download envy
[15:41] <ikonia> T4K: firefox has nothing to do with ppp0
[15:41] <IRWolfie-> ubuntu in booting up from the live cd seems to initially show everything, then attempt to change the refresh rate/resolution to something not supported by my monitor, any ideas on what its doing and how to fix this?
[15:41] <hellues> is it a package
[15:41] <egoleo> hello
[15:41] <Mimi> google it.   search for   ubuntu download envy
[15:41] <p0l> Flannel, yes I have 3 files in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory, named prerequists-sources.list, prerequists-sources.list and prerequists-sources.list.save
[15:41] <Wobe> hellues: it's in the repos
[15:42] <ikonia> !envy | Wobe
[15:42] <T4K> ikonia well i can connect on here but not on firefox
[15:42] <Lr5> T4K: do you have any router/other settings set in firefox?
[15:42] <egoleo> after installing the madwifi it works but it disables my network config too
[15:42] <T4K> lr5 this is a FRESH install
[15:42] <egoleo> l
[15:42] <ikonia> T4K: you probably do not have any dns resolution
[15:42] <egoleo> so how do i fix this plse?
[15:42] <philip_> I need kernel 2.6.25. Anyone know where/repos with this kernel?
[15:42] <T4K> i can ping my addressed via the ping command just fine
[15:42] <ikonia> philip_: doesn't exist, why do you need it
[15:42] <ryan__> hello
[15:42] <my_lap_is_hot> T4K: What error message do you see when you try tovisit a website?
[15:42] <T4K> addresses*
[15:42] <ikonia> T4K: what addresses
[15:42] <hellues> i found envyng
[15:42] <ryan__> can any one help me with scratch box
[15:42] <T4K> Firefox is currently in offline mode and can't browse the Web.
[15:42] <ikonia> ryan__: scratch box ?
[15:42] <philip_> ikonia: 2.6.24 breaks support for ALSA (TV tuner cards)
[15:43] <my_lap_is_hot> T4K: File > Work Offline  Uncheck that
[15:43] <hellues> i found envyng-core envyng-gtk envyng-qt
[15:43] <bazhang> hellues: that is for hardy and is in the ubuntu repos
[15:43] <hellues> did you say this ?
[15:43] <T4K> that did it
[15:43] <T4K> heh
[15:43] <ikonia> philip_: wait for it to get pushed out, but alsa/tv cards are working finre for me
[15:43] <T4K> something so simple... thanks :)
[15:43] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'll come back later to this ;)
[15:43] <ryan__> it's used to for programming nokia n800
[15:43] <SeicherlBoB> Can someone tell me what this syslog-entry means (it happens after i docked my laptop - docking stations USB ports refuse to work): kernel: [ 4191.408000] PM: Writing back config space on device 0000:02:00.0 at offset f (was ffffffff, writing 10b)
[15:43] <hellues> bazhang,  is it envyng ?
[15:43] <Wobe> hellues: Yes
[15:43] <my_lap_is_hot> T4K: A little Googling can help too.  :-)
[15:43] <p0l> Flannel, all the files contain: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-backports main/debian-installer
[15:43] <bazhang> hellues: for hardy/gnome gtk
[15:43] <ryan__> I got it downloaded but I need to change the user on it from root
[15:43] <philip_> ikonia: video works, sound doesn't. It's all over the forums
[15:44] <Lr5> T4K: I wonder how it went to that, I got something like that too when trying to fix networking
[15:44] <T4K> now for the next hard part which is probably in documents.. sharing the ppp0 connection :O
[15:44] <ikonia> philip_: I don't doubt it
[15:44] <bazhang> haha
[15:44] <T4K> Lr5 all I know is when I use my evdo card it defaults to work offline mode
[15:44] <ThomPhoenix> Greetings.
[15:44] <Mimi> !google
[15:44] <led> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Convert-3104.shtml   i thought i would just share what i found
[15:44] <Lr5> T4K: kk
[15:45] <ThomPhoenix> Are there any known bugs with the partition manager in the Hardy installation?
[15:45] <Jasone> bazhang: it wont mount in windows
[15:45] <ikonia> ThomPhoenix: no
[15:45] <ThomPhoenix> It won't resize my partitions to make room for Ubuntu.
[15:45] <Jasone> it says permission denied even though the guest box is checked
[15:45] <led> thats on my question for coverting wma to mp3 and much more
[15:45] <Turno> hellues: envyng is the correct version of envy, yes
[15:45] <ikonia> Jasone: your installing through windows (wubi ?)
[15:45] <co_14_m_bdg> d4n1
[15:45] <Jasone> not this is an ubuntu box
[15:45] <Jasone> i count mount a share on it
[15:45] <ikonia> Jasone: so why "guest" ?
[15:45] <Jasone> from windows or osx
[15:45] <ThomPhoenix> ikonia: It start to resize a partition and then after 2 seconds it just pops back to the part manager without errors or any clue as to what's the problem.
[15:46] <Jasone> well, i cant mount a share in windows or osx that the ubuntu is sharing
[15:46] <Jasone> it worked before i upgraded to 8.04
[15:46] <Wobe> led: did you get my responses?
[15:46] <ThomPhoenix> I guess I'll have to resize the partition in windows. -1 for Ubuntu.
[15:46] <ikonia> Jasone: sorry, I have your question mixed up with someone elses, apologies
[15:46] <led> no
[15:47] <ryan__> any one familiar with scratchbox?
[15:47] <cwillu> anybody having the crashy crashy firefox + flash problem?
[15:47] <Wobe> ledmushroom: I said there is soundconverter and a nautilus script for that
[15:47] <ikonia> ryan__: isn't there a scratchbox support group ?
[15:47] <leonbrussels> cwillu: Flash is generally a problem with linux
[15:47]  * Mimi Question: I have been enjoying Hardy Heron soooo much, but now, out of a sudden.... I can't play any of my music.. I double click it.. nothing happens... O.o Any help? Thanks =^..^=
[15:47] <omnz0r> hi guys, I have this annoying problem; I just hooked up an external monitor to my laptop, which works. I now want to maximize windows, but they only resize up to the size of the laptop monitor, which is not as high as I would like it to be. What do I do? I use fluxbox for WM btw
[15:47] <Wobe> cwillu: not since my fresh install
[15:47] <cwillu> leonbrussels, I know, I'm investigating a possible fix
[15:47] <ledmushroom> oh ok ty must have been searching at that point
[15:47] <sam__> hello
[15:47] <sam__> http://pastebin.ca/1002923
[15:48] <Rai>  hello
[15:48] <sam__> kindly help me......http://pastebin.ca/1002923
[15:48] <ikonia> omnz0r: are you using xinerama/twinview?
[15:48] <cwillu> Wobe, do you get audio out of flash and any other apps at the same time?
[15:48] <omnz0r> ikonia: xrandr
[15:48] <ikonia> omnz0r: thats not a dual head tool
[15:48] <Turno> is anyone just getting a black screen after you install the nvidia restricted drivers?
[15:48] <cwillu> Ideally, I'm looking for somebody who can make flash crash firefox on demand,  prerequisites include an installed libflashsupport
[15:48] <Wobe> cwillu: yep, no issues... I did when in the beta though, was always crapping out
[15:48] <sam__> i am using nvidia 8600 GT and compiz  is not working...kindly help anyone
[15:48] <ikonia> omnz0r: just checking it
[15:48] <omnz0r> ikonia: no it's not, I don't want to use laptop monitor, just want a mirror on the external :)
[15:49] <ikonia> omnz0r: ooh, I see
[15:49] <IRWolfie-> ubuntu in booting up from the live cd seems to initially show everything, then attempt to change the refresh rate/resolution to something not supported by my monitor, any ideas on what its doing and how to fix this?
[15:49] <ikonia> omnz0r: won't the monitor be restricted by the laptops display then ?
[15:50] <omnz0r> ikonia: I have another monitor, on which it is not a problem. That's an ol' school CRT, this is an LCD
[15:50] <omnz0r> so I don't know if that as something to say in some weirdo way
[15:50] <leonbrussels> cwillu: Try using another browser. lIke epiphanny
[15:50] <Tipolosko> IRWolfie-: press ctrl+alt+  keypad "+" key
[15:50] <ArthurArchnix> anyone use keypassx? I created this database, and can see the file, but it won't find it or open it.
[15:50] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i found the problem
[15:51] <spq> anyone famillar with wpa_suppliant or knows where i can ask? (i either get an error, that the ie is wrong or it says that the ap is not wpa enabled, depending on wpa_supplicants version)
[15:51] <ThomPhoenix> I cancelled the installation and went to the live session and there I get a message saying ubiquity crashes. That might be my issue.
[15:51] <Tipolosko> then change resolution as usual
[15:51] <cwillu> leonbrussels, I'm not looking for troubleshooting help, I'm looking for a guinea pig
[15:51] <Flannel> p0l: Ah, that'd do it then.  Either remove those files, or just comment out each of the lines.
[15:51] <CarlFK> IRWolfie-: also, when you boot, I think you are given a chance to enter boot options - poke around the help
[15:51] <JohnnyWells> Everytime I logged in, my network manager would request access to the default keyring.  I tried to fix this by following a post on the ubuntu forums, but instead it screwed up my wireless internet.  Now I can't connect to/find any networks.  I removed the coding I added, and that helped nothing.  I reinstalled the manager, but the problem remains.  Can anyone help me?
[15:51] <ikonia> omnz0r: so it works on another monitor, it's just not playing nice with your current monitor
[15:51] <berzerka> is it at all possible to recompile "ubuntu" packages from source? using apt-get source packagename and dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot?
[15:51] <omnz0r> ikonia: exactly
[15:51] <Zet> BUG: Soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 11s! [exe:2673]
[15:52] <ikonia> omnz0r: odd, is the edid being announced correctly ?
[15:52] <cwillu> leonbrussels, epiphany has the same flash issues, it's not a firefox issue, but a pulse + libflashsupport (adobe's support library) + flashplayer (the currently suspected agent)
[15:52] <omnz0r> ikonia: I have no idea what the edid is :)
[15:52] <Zet> (this on 64-bit desktop live-cd, after choosing the "check disk integrety" thing
[15:52] <ThomPhoenix> I tried to report the crash, but then Firefox hung.
[15:52] <ikonia> omnz0r: the monitor announces it's capabilities wehn youplug it in, thats edid
[15:52]  * ThomPhoenix zaps back to Windows.
[15:52] <ArthurArchnix> Nevermind. Problem solved. Thank you internet.
[15:52] <IRWolfie-> CarlFK: dont think its reached any way to set any options, Tipolosko: i do that during the point at which it attempts to change the settings?
[15:52] <ikonia> omnz0r: IED sorry
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 what was the solution?
[15:52] <Flannel> berzerka: Certainly possible, yes.  Why you would want to.... I'm not sure.
[15:52] <ikonia> omnz0r: EID
[15:52] <omnz0r> ikonia: oh, yeah it's right
[15:52] <CarlFK> what command will compare my system clock to a time server - I am trying to see how much it drifts in a day
[15:52] <leonbrussels> cwillu: looking for a guinea pig? I can do that :)
[15:52] <hawodi> hello all
[15:53] <ikonia> omnz0r: apologies, I have to step away
[15:53] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'm an idiot! lol i was doing the wrong drive it was disk
[15:53] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, so how do i get the permissions and everything back for sda1
[15:53] <omnz0r> ikonia: ok, tahnks though
[15:53] <cwillu> leonbrussels, I've got a replacement libflashplayer.so that somebody hacked together with some extra options;  I haven't been able to make it crash on my machine yet
[15:53] <JohnnyWells> ﻿Everytime I logged in, my network manager would request access to the default keyring.  I tried to fix this by following a post on the ubuntu forums, but instead it screwed up my wireless internet.  Now I can't connect to/find any networks.  I removed the coding I added, and that helped nothing.  I reinstalled the manager, but the problem remains.  Can anyone help me?
[15:53] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, and what was sda1?
[15:53] <IRWolfie-> ill give it a go anyway
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 Oh my tell me you didnt
[15:53] <deserteagle> good morning
[15:53] <Flannel> CarlFK: Do you really want to know? or would you prefer just having it fix itself constantly?
[15:53] <CarlFK> IRWolfie-: also, "when you boot" - like right after it sees the CD and starts loading anything.  you get a menu
[15:53] <cwillu> ha, spoke too soon
[15:53] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok i didn't :D but yea i did
[15:54] <CarlFK> Flannel: i want to know
[15:54] <deserteagle> where could i ask about modem/router configurations?
[15:54] <leonbrussels> cwillu: haven't got that problem
[15:54] <Flannel> CarlFK: ntpdate with the -q option will query only, without setting.
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 I need to leave, but before I do let me have you run a line for me?
[15:54] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[15:54]  * Mimi Question: I have been enjoying Hardy Heron soooo much, but now, out of a sudden.... I can't play any of my music.. I double click it.. nothing happens... O.o Any help? Thanks =^..^=
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:54] <edreamleo> Hello all: trying to install 8
[15:55] <fr500> hello
[15:55] <deserteagle> where could i ask about modem/router configurations?
[15:55] <cwillu> Mimi, close firefox
[15:55] <cwillu> Mimi, (long story)
[15:55] <fr500> can yo uhelp please? since the latest update zsnes and other apps don't have sound
[15:55] <p0l> Flannel, Yes it works after remove the files, thank you!!
[15:55] <Mimi> cwillu:  ... lol *tries*
[15:55] <Cpudan80> deserteagle: Like configuring your router?
[15:55] <edreamleo> did sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade"
[15:55] <luis__> #ubuntu-es-es
[15:55] <hawodi> Am having problem editing my firewall. I have a rules defined in /etc/init.d/ and so far clients on the network can browse but I don't think iptable is using the rules I defined. How do I know which scripts its using?
[15:55] <Cpudan80> desti: #networking
[15:55] <Liminal> hello
[15:55] <luis__> #ubuntu-es
[15:55] <cwillu> Mimi, and then reopen the music player, it should work
[15:55] <george> Is it real this "Ubuntu crashesh notebook HDD:?
[15:56] <Liminal> unbuntu chums
[15:56] <deserteagle> Cpudan80: yeah
[15:56] <edreamleo> etc/issue reports 7.10 after reboot, which makes sense
[15:56] <george> hmm..
[15:56] <Mimi> cwillu:  Was that supposed to do anything? I still can't play my song ;p
[15:56] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok it's working on it
[15:56] <Cpudan80> hawodi: iptables -L
[15:56] <Cpudan80> hawodi: sudo that
[15:56] <edreamleo> only 7.10 entries in grub loader
[15:56] <JohnnyWells> What version ubuntu are you running, was the guide for a compatible version?
[15:56] <JohnnyWells> Can you connect though a cable?
[15:56] <JohnnyWells> use synaptic and "completely remove" network-manager
[15:56] <JohnnyWells> use synaptic again to reinstall network manager.
[15:56] <JohnnyWells> (ps wait a little longer than 1.5h for a bump) 	
[15:56] <FloodBot2> JohnnyWells: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:56] <Turno> is anybody getting a black screen after installing nvidia restricted drivers?
[15:56] <Turno> my xorg logs look fine
[15:56] <hawodi> Cpudan80: I have done that and the output is different from what I define.
[15:56] <Liminal> when I click on the ATA drive in My computer it says it can't mount
[15:56] <CarlFK> Flannel: thanks
[15:56] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, it created a text file on my desktop, that's it
[15:56] <Liminal> do you know whats going on
[15:57] <laeg> Turno: if the res is incorrect the screen will be black
[15:57] <Mimi> !enter
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 did the terminal return a link to a pastebin?
[15:57] <Rai>  are you all American?
[15:57] <george> Is it real this "Ubuntu crashesh notebook HDD:?
[15:57] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/f7cbf0db9
[15:57] <hawodi> even after editing the file, its still returng the same thing as before.
[15:57] <Turno> laeg: vnc isn't loading, and it was before installing the restricted drivers, i don't think x is loading
[15:57] <Cpudan80> hawodi: Oh --- well it depends on how you set it up --- by default no IPtables are read in
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> thank you
[15:57] <cwillu> Mimi, and firefox is completely closed?
[15:57] <cwillu> no download manager still open?
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 got to that link yourself for me
[15:57] <Mimi> Rai:  this is the english speaking channel if that's what you're asking. There's many more channel for other languages. like #ubuntu-es #ubuntu-fr etc
[15:57] <Tipolosko> Turno: have you examined /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[15:58] <zephyr_too> hi
[15:58] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[15:58] <Jasone> ok so i check the box to share a folder as guest, i can get onto the server and see the share from both osx and windows, but i cant open the folder, it says no permission
[15:58] <Turno> laeg: this happens both when i'm using a widescreen lcd only from a fresh install, and when i use just my tv from install
[15:58] <zephyr_too> need some help ... newbie here
[15:58] <laeg> Turno: sorry, i am new, i just know it happens to me with incorrect res
[15:58] <Turno> Tipolosko: everything actually looks okay in xorg logs
[15:58] <Turno> laeg: we're all new ;)
[15:58] <laeg> :)
[15:58] <hawodi> Cpudan80: so how do I change it pls?
[15:58] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'm there
[15:58] <PowerTeam> Hi, i need some hint with kvm and qemu. I am running windowsxp trough kvm / qemu and everything works great. But i wonder if it posible to run in wxga
[15:58] <Cpudan80> hawodi: Well how did you set it up to begin with --- you need to go look at that and see what it is reading to generate the iptables
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 One more sec
[15:59] <edreamleo> ok.  One line: sudo sh -c "aptitude update; aptitude upgrade" looked good, but did not update grub loader to 8.x.  What now?
[15:59] <Tipolosko> Turno: maybe is sensing wrong the connector? maybe it has activated only tvout and you have a monitor, or vice-versa
[15:59] <Flannel> edreamleo: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:59] <zephyr_too> I have a problem, i was fiddling around with permissions on the usb devices, and now i find that none of my usb ports work
[15:59] <hawodi> Cpudan80: can post the rules here?
[15:59] <Turno> Tipolosko: I've tried defining ConnectedDevice in my xorg.conf, no effect
[15:59] <Mimi> cw
[15:59] <zephyr_too> how do i enable them back again ?
[15:59] <Flannel> edreamleo: Are you upgrading your system from 7.10 to 8.04?  Did update manager not work for you?
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 your fstab is showing sda1 as ntfs and fdisk shows it is really ext3
[16:00] <Mimi> cwillu:  Yeah.. I had epiphany open also so I closed it and its fixed... what's the matter? :P Do you have a link with an explanation of the issue?
[16:00] <reagleBRKLN> which package controls "/usr/src/linux" i'm trying to build vmware and it doesn't find that directory
[16:00] <Turno> Tipolosko: I'll try envy when I get home
[16:00] <cwillu> Mimi, (make sure you use the full name (tab will complete it generally), most irc clients will actually notify the person if their full name is said)
[16:00] <darklingduck> Hello all, I am new to linux.  How do I install something from a Tar.gz?
[16:00] <cwillu> Mimi, it's a known flash problem
[16:00] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, yea i'm not sure why there are so many partitions should only have 4
[16:00] <Mimi> cwillu:  yeah i pressed enter twice by accident :p
[16:00] <Turno> darklingduck: tar xvzf whatever.tar.gz
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 One more sec
[16:00] <fr500> can yo uhelp please? since the latest update zsnes, wesnoth, gfecu and other apps don't have sound
[16:00] <cwillu> Mimi, right now, we can either have flash grab the sound card exclusively, or have it share the sound card, but crash the browser once in a while
[16:00] <zephyr_too> « /msg ubottu etiquette »
[16:00] <hawodi> Cpudan80: I created a rules file and stored it in /etc/init.d and did update-rc.d
[16:00] <reagleBRKLN> i've installed linux-source
[16:00] <Turno> darklingduck: the install instructions should be in the directory that gets extracted
[16:00] <weltall> does anyone know how to fix the audio delay of pulse audio? i get the audio 1-2 seconds later... in real time generated audio this is plainly wrong
[16:01] <darklingduck> Turno:  Thanks.
[16:01] <cwillu> Mimi, we're using the lessor of two evils
[16:01] <Flannel> darklingduck: .tar.gz  is just an archive file, in it... there are a lot of possibilities (that determine the method of installation), what is it you're trying to install?
[16:01] <cwillu> weltall, what app?
[16:01] <cwillu> weltall, something using sdl?
[16:01] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, did i just screw the pooch or what
[16:01] <weltall> zsnes / libao
[16:01] <weltall> no libao
[16:01] <Cpudan80> !iptables | hawodi
[16:01] <Koheleth> has Ubuntu got a program to convert avi to flv?
[16:01] <weltall> if i setup libao to output in alsa/sdl/oss it's fine
[16:01] <darklingduck> Flannel:  Thunderbird
[16:01] <leonbrussels> hey all join #funnyshit its funny
[16:01] <joh6nn> anyone know what the hell /usr/uns/lib is?
[16:01] <edreamleo> Flannel:  did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. It reports nothing done, nothing needed.
[16:02] <cwillu> Mimi, you can install libflashsupport in synaptic, but once in a while firefox/epiphany will close for no apparent reason
[16:02] <Cpudan80> hawodi: Scroll down to the part with the bash script for Network Manager
[16:02] <manifest_> can anyone tell me why does my ubuntu not find C:?
[16:02] <swmiller6> Koheleth: menncoder of ffmpeg
[16:02] <Flannel> darklingduck: Thunderbird is in the repositories.  You don't need to install it from your targz
[16:02] <joh6nn> manifest_: what are you trying to do?
[16:02] <Turno> manifest_:  you need to "mount" it if its your windows drive
[16:02] <hawodi> its quite a simple file to allow internet browsing and allow tcp services locally.
[16:02] <redo86> hello
[16:02] <Mimi> cwillu:  can i uninstall it later, if i find it too much trouble? i think its worth a try :D
[16:02] <cwillu> manifest_, ubuntu (and linux in general) doesn't use drive letters
[16:02] <manifest_> how does i mount it?
[16:02] <deadchip> how can i find out the configure flags of an installed package?
[16:02] <Turno> manifest_: google mount
[16:02] <cwillu> Mimi, you can
[16:02] <cwillu> actually, wanna try something?
[16:02] <cwillu> Mimi, ^^^
[16:02] <darklingduck> Flannel:  How do I access the Repositories?
[16:02] <fr500> weltall: what did you do to get sound even working?
[16:02] <Mimi> ^_^ Thanks so much cwillu
[16:02] <Koheleth> swmiller6, thanks is it user friendly?
[16:03] <fr500> weltall: i get no sound at all
[16:03] <Melancholia> is there a way to CHANGE my volumes names??
[16:03] <sisif> Hello guys. How can I get rid of ndiwsrapper once installed. Adding it to blacklist still doesen`t prevent it from being loaded at boot :(
[16:03] <swmiller6> not really
[16:03] <Flannel> darklingduck: Theres a few different ways.  Add/Remove programs, or Synaptic pcakage manager (the former is in your applications menu, the latter,  system > admin > synaptic)
[16:03] <cwillu> Mimi, if you can promise to let me know in a week if it's caused any issues, I'll give you a different version of libflashsupport that _might_ not have the crashing problem
[16:03] <weltall> the shipped kernel is bugged with zsnes
[16:03] <brane> i have brand new laptop Asus A7U and 8.04 wont boot - same error as mobo ECS KA3 MVP !?!!
[16:03] <Blackdoggy> when I try to install "gnome-desktop-environment", but it says "gnome-keyring-manager (>= 2.20.0)" is needed, but cant install it
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 correct you have 4..  I dont have time to explain..
[16:03] <Melancholia> instead of Sda5 and sda 3 and those things
[16:03] <weltall> it won't output audio no matter what you need .25 to get something
[16:03] <weltall> at least trough alsa
[16:03] <hawodi> lost you there Cupudan80
[16:03] <Mimi> cwillu:  Yeah I can do that, I'll write your name down, the date, and what you've asked me. I'll test with pandora and youtube
[16:03] <deadchip> sorry how can i find out the configure flags of an installed package?
[16:03] <redo86> I've installed ubuntu last mounth but i've a problem can i ask here?
[16:03] <Flannel> edreamleo: You're upgrading, yes?  Did update-manager not work for you?
[16:03] <cwillu> Mimi, okay, one sec
[16:03] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i can come back later then, for now can it wait or should i just do a fresh install
[16:04] <weltall> as for pulse i couldn't get it to work for day today i tried -ad pulse and it magically worked
[16:04] <Wobe> redo86: ask away
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 put a # at the front of line 10 in your fstab save and reboot, then try to mount that partition manually
[16:04] <weltall> days*
[16:04] <darklingduck> Flannel:  Thanks for the help.
[16:04] <cwillu> Mimi, give me your email address, I'm going to email you a file
[16:04] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks have a good day
[16:04] <redo86> i've tryed but noone help me :(
[16:04] <ArthurArchnix> Do it in a pm
[16:04] <ArthurArchnix> Mimi
[16:04] <fr500> weltall: so you changed kernel 1st?
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 no it is easy fix, but I am shorter on time than I would like.. so go do that and come back..
[16:04] <manifest_> hmm
[16:04] <manifest_> my dualbooting wont work
[16:05] <weltall> well yes now i've a vanilla 2.6.25
[16:05] <manifest_> my grub doesnt see vista
[16:05] <redo86> someone can say me an help chanel?
[16:05] <weltall> i didn't test zsnes now that it started working with pulseaudio on .24 kernel
[16:05] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i'm sorry i am not sure how to do that add in front of line 10 sorry
[16:05] <Mimi> manifest_:  that's easy to fix, one sec
[16:05] <Pici> redo86: You need to ask a question here first.
[16:05] <edreamleo> Flannel: I can't find upgrade manager.  Iirc I uninstalled too much python; Gui disappeared. Used apt-get to get python and most of the gui back, but About Ubuntu and Upgrade Manager menu items didn't come back ;-)
[16:05] <leonbrussels> manifest: You can edit your menu.lst yourself
[16:05] <weltall> but for sure you can't use oss and alsa output with .24 kernel (tried since gutsy)
[16:05] <joh6nn> anyone know what /usr/uns/lib is?
[16:05] <fr500> weltall: well sound woks if i kill pulseaudio and configure alsa
[16:05] <weltall> sdl should work in any case
[16:05] <redo86> ah ok..i need to change owner of my second hard disk
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 open a terminal
[16:05] <hawodi> Cupudan80: doing !iptables | hawodi gives the ff error: event not found
[16:06] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, got that
[16:06] <fr500> weltall: doesnt work if pulse is running
[16:06] <swmiller6> Koheleth: you could try avidemux I have not used that to convert avi to flv but I am pretty sure it can and it is more freindly then meancoder or ffmpeg
[16:06] <Flannel> edreamleo: install the linux-generic metapackage.  then dist-upgrade, then once you're there, install ubuntu-desktop
[16:06] <weltall> hum for me it works it's enough that pulse isn't being used
[16:06] <fr500> but weird enough aplay for instance can output audio
[16:06] <manifest_> join
[16:06] <Mimi> manifest_:  try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398087 and  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows  for help
[16:06] <manifest_> join ubuntu.fi
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 type  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab     copy and paste the commands by adding shift to ctrl-V
[16:06] <tomeu_> hi
[16:06] <leonbrussels> manifest: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grubconf-for-windows-vista-or-xp-dual-boot/
[16:06] <zephyr_too> how do i know that my usb ports are working?
[16:06] <weltall> but as i said i'm on .25 maybe there was some sort of blocking system on .24 which explains the problems i found
[16:06] <Koheleth> swmiller6, ok the other looks complicated
[16:07] <Hssn> where does Synaptic save the downloaded packages?
[16:07] <ArthurArchnix> zephyr_too: lsusb is a good command
[16:07] <zephyr_too> thanks arthur
[16:07] <tomeu_> i have a problems mount smb folders with permissions
[16:07] <Flannel> Hssn: /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:07] <edreamleo> Flannel: many thanks.  Will try that.  You guys are great.
[16:07] <funkyHat> What version is the fglrx driver in hardy?
[16:07] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, rebooting now brb
[16:07] <Hssn> Flannel: thanks
[16:07] <drmarwat> hello
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> good luck
[16:07] <hawodi> Cupudan80: are u still there?
[16:07] <zephyr_too> I've got this output from lsusb
[16:08] <drmarwat> how do i access /var/cache as root to copy the download packages?
[16:08] <Pici> hawodi: !iptables is not a bash command, its a trigger for the bot in IRC to tell you about iptables.
[16:08] <Pici> !iptables > hawodi (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:08] <zephyr_too> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[16:08] <fr500> mehh... pulseaudio breaks  a lot more stuff thank it fixes
[16:08] <zephyr_too> the same for bus 3, 2, and 1
[16:08] <Koheleth> anyone using flowplayer in wordpress :)
[16:08] <zephyr_too> this is while i have my hard drive plugged in
[16:08] <zephyr_too> what do i do to check this
[16:09] <KingmanRoss> good morning from Kingman,Az
[16:09] <hawodi> oh thanks.
[16:09] <Flannel> drmarwat: You shouldn't need to access it from root, its world readable
[16:09] <hawodi>  forgive my ignorance.
[16:09] <KingmanRoss> haaaave a software/hardware install question for Ubuntu 8.0
[16:09] <berzerka> Flannel: i need to recompile libusb. but that does for now, thank you...
[16:09] <bazhang> KingmanRoss: go ahead
[16:09] <Blackdoggy> what is the name of the default GUI of ubuntu 8.04 ?
[16:09] <bazhang> gnome
[16:10] <Blackdoggy> and how can I install it on a server ?
[16:10] <Blackdoggy> what is the package name I need
[16:10] <bazhang> ubuntu-desktop Blackdoggy
[16:10] <Mimi> Blackdoggy:  a google search for 'install gnome in ubuntu server' would help too :3
[16:10] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, ok i went to computer icon clicked on the drive and everything works
[16:10] <KingmanRoss> ok,I installed Ubuntu last night,not sure what to do on for my webcam/software
[16:10] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i am able to save things there and delete them
[16:10] <bazhang> !webcam | KingmanRoss
[16:10] <Lamego> Blackdoggy, it's not a default GUI; it's a full window manager, for gnome (default), install ubuntu-desktop
[16:10] <drmarwat> Flannel: i wanna copy all the packages , im going for reinstall and wanna keep the downloaded packages as back up to avoid redownload but i cant copy paste them to another drive
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> cgentry72 Happy camper?
[16:11] <erUSUL> !webcam | KingmanRoss
[16:11] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, :D yes sorry if i rushed u
[16:11] <bullium> does anyone know how to get that thin border on the left side of the main menu in gnome like xubuntu's menus look on 8.10
[16:11] <bullium> 8.04 sorrry
[16:11] <Flannel> drmarwat: then that's a problem with the other drive, since those should all be world readable
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np glad to help as always, thanks for following along so well.. it helps alot
[16:11] <hawodi> !iptables >hawodi
[16:11] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl
[16:11] <DigitalOktay> Hi#
[16:11] <cgentry72> Jack_Sparrow, i've helped some people and i understand what your saying
[16:12] <joh6nn> KingmanRoss: http://packages.ubuntu.com : handy web interface for searching through all the available software.  help you find anything else you're looking for, after you get the webcam stuff set up
[16:12] <bazhang> bullium: have you checked at gnome-look.org
[16:12] <ph8> thanks for everyone who helped me earlier; a manual fsck sorted in the end with half an hour to spare!
[16:12] <drmarwat> oh, i guess i will need redownload eveythig again then
[16:12] <bullium> bazhang: I have not...so it's them then?
[16:12] <bullium> bazhang: theme rather
[16:12] <tomeu_> i have a problems mount smb folders with permissions in hardy?
[16:12] <hawodi> !iptables | hawodi
[16:12] <bazhang> bullium: worth a look
[16:13] <manifest_> FUUUUCK
[16:13] <manifest_> im no good in linux
[16:13] <Flannel> !language
[16:13] <Pici> manifest_: Watch the language, please.
[16:13] <bazhang> hawodi: please /msg ubottu  iptables thanks
[16:13] <bullium> bazhang: ok I'll give that a try...may i'll ask in the xubuntu channel as well
[16:13] <bazhang> mainfest what is the issue and watch the cursing please
[16:13] <KingmanRoss> ok,thanks.Wwhat about games,ie:; Command and Conqure and Battlefield 2 ??
[16:13] <hawodi> thanks. am new to irc.
[16:13] <Wobe> manifest_: it's like anything else, you'll get used to it after a while
[16:13] <BobbyMac> what about ltsp
[16:14] <KingmanRoss> conquer
[16:14] <bazhang> !appdb | KingmanRoss read this link please
[16:14] <hawodi> I have actually read on iptables and gotten it to work. The problem is that I change the file and the new rules are reflecting.
[16:14] <KingmanRoss> cool,thanks for your help
[16:14] <mohamed> how you make totem player default for firefox to stream online web videos
[16:15] <mohamed> i am using hardy heron 8.04 made mplayer mozilla plugin
[16:15] <BobbyMac> I just set up a ltsp setup and its working but I am haveing trouble working with sessions
[16:15] <thegve> Hello  - I am trying to get my analog video output to work using the OSS ati driver using xrandr.  For some reason there is no output.
[16:16] <fr500> .....
[16:16] <fr500> hating hardy for sound issues
[16:17] <bazhang> fr500: tried switching to alsa iinstead of autodetect?
[16:17] <mickinator> the system beeps all the time are anoyin
[16:17] <fr500> bazhang: gstreamer sound is the only sound wrking
[16:17] <manifest_> i dont know whats my C: drive located at and on what name?
[16:17] <thegve> thegve@lappie:~$ xrandr -q
[16:17] <thegve> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1050
[16:17] <thegve> VGA-0 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 474mm x 296mm
[16:17] <thegve> but there is no video
[16:17] <fr500> bazhang: i'm thinking kernel issus since the rc had sound for me
[16:18] <bazhang> manifest_: there is no c drive in linux iirc
[16:18] <fr500> gonna rebbot and try an older kernel
[16:18] <mickinator> nope... no c drive
[16:18] <fr500> manifest_: everything is mounted on "folders" directories, no drive letters
[16:18] <brane> i first buy new PC with ECS KA3 MVP mobo and 8.04 wont boot and then buy new Laptop Asus A7U and 8.04 wont boot !
[16:18] <fr500> manifest_: why do you need your c drive
[16:18] <laeg> do i just do make install Azureus_3.0.5.2_linux.tar.bz2? the version in repo is 2.5x
[16:19] <raindrop> I left my computer on overnight, and it was set to a much higher resolution this morning. I have no idea what to search the logs for. Does anyone know what could cause that?
[16:19] <bazhang> manifest_: you might consider wubi
[16:19] <fr500> raindrop: maybe the is a newer one at getdeb?
[16:19] <zephyr_blore> need help with usb ports
[16:19] <bazhang> raindrop: the res is too high? we usually have complaints about the opposite ;]
[16:19] <manifest_> i cant find it there :(
[16:19] <tesseracter> hi, anyone work with nvidia CUDA on ubuntu?
[16:19] <erUSUL> !ask | zephyr_blore
[16:20] <fr500> manifest_: find what?
[16:20] <Koheleth> swmiller6, do you know anything about frequency, for flv the sound has to be mp3 but I get an error about it has to be a certain frequency but I cant see where to change this in dvidemux
[16:20] <manifest_> my C: drive, its got all my programs and games
[16:20] <Domevlo> has anyone tried to connect to packages.ubuntu.com recently?  I'm having trouble doing that.  Ping works fine but wget and web browsers are abominably slow
[16:20] <fr500> manifest_: did you install?
[16:20] <mohamed> Hi all
[16:20] <manifest_> what?
[16:20] <raindrop> well, it's a pretty big monitor.. it will do much higher rez than I want. Something updated, I guess... but I didn't think an update should have messed with my resolution setting.
[16:20] <fr500> manifest_: did you install ubuntu or just used the livecd
[16:20] <mohamed> i want to make totem player as my default one in firefox how to do it
[16:20] <zephyr_blore> my usb ports do not work, i cannot see any usb device i connect. What could be the problem?
[16:20] <bazhang> Domevlo: why would you wget from there and not install from repos
[16:20] <manifest_> install from a liveCD
[16:21] <Domevlo> bazhang:  emerald-themes isn't in the repos
[16:21] <manifest_> i tried dualboot but couldnt
[16:21] <fr500> manifest_: did you resize partitions or erased everything?
[16:21] <bazhang> Domevlo: what about backports
[16:21] <manifest_> resize
[16:21] <fr500> manifest_: duaboot should have worked
[16:21] <Domevlo> bazhang: hmmm, good point. let me try that
[16:21] <tomeu_> i have a problems mount smb folders with permissions in hardy?
[16:21] <fr500> manifest_: get the output of "df" on a pastebin
[16:22] <bazhang> tomeu_: we need tons more info
[16:22] <manifest_> it shows the C: drive in locactions but wont ler me enret
[16:22] <laeg> do i just do make install Azureus_3.0.5.2_linux.tar.bz2? the version in repo is 2.5x
[16:22] <legend2440> mickinator: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/disable-the-system-beep-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[16:22] <bazhang> manifest_: sounds like a grub problem--> which was installed first
[16:22] <Pici> laeg: No, you need to un-tar it and read the README and INSTALL files within
[16:22] <Koheleth> swmiller6, just sorted it with the use of a auto flv feature, gosh I love userfriendly stuff
[16:22] <manifest_> what do u mean which one?
[16:22] <bazhang> laeg: what new feature do you need
[16:22] <keegan> hi while i am on windows ultimate i am shown more wireless networks in the same position of the laptop than i am shown in ubuntu and with better connectivity. Any reason for this . laptop is sony vaio fz 140 e
[16:22] <laeg> Pici: the readme file just says to extract the dir but not where to put it
[16:23] <Domevlo> bazhang: I'm looking at my sources.list file, and it has backports and proposed.  What exactly do those signify?  (I like to know why I'm doing what I'm doing, helps me learn)
[16:23] <laeg> bazhang: i'm getting help from an az dev and he told me to unistall 2.5 and upgrade to this version
[16:23] <Pici> laeg: So. extract it then.  tar xzvf file.tar.gz
[16:23] <Jeruvy> Hey folks, for slower systems whats the minimum desktop I can run?
[16:23] <bazhang> Domevlo: you are running the absolute bleeding edge of ubuntu ;]
[16:23] <manifest_> bazhang: what do u mean which onje?
[16:23] <Wobe> Jeruvy: xfce works well or blackbox/fluxbox
[16:23] <laeg> Pici: is that command the same as extracting it in the gui and do i just put it in my home dir?
[16:23] <nibsa1242b> keegan probably has to to with the wireless card in your laptop; most wireless card manufactures do not make drivers for Linux
[16:24] <tomeu_> in feisty whe i connect to smb folder in domain, i have my permission, but when i tray to make the same in hardy no have any permissions
[16:24] <Domevlo> bazhang: huh?
[16:24] <bazhang> manifest_: which was installed first--xp/vista or ubuntu
[16:24] <Jeruvy> Wobe: those are in the alt build cd?  Or do I need a different version?
[16:24] <Pici> laeg: Yes, or just right click on it and select extract here. somewhere in your home dir.
[16:24] <manifest_> vista
[16:24] <laeg> bazhang: i like the term 'bleeding edge' :P
[16:24] <laeg> Pici: ty
[16:24] <keegan> nibsa1242b:  its intel pro wireles. any ideas ?
[16:24] <Koheleth> swmiller6, from 26mb to 8mb well cool
[16:24] <bazhang> Domevlo: something like fedora-lite
[16:24] <laeg> Pici: i thought there was much more to installing tar apps i download
[16:24] <Wobe> Jeruvy: I'm not sure they can all be grabbed via synaptic after install
[16:25] <Hammer89> how do I find out if direct rendering is enabled on my computer? (I know there was a command that you could run in terminal... cant remember what it was though)
[16:25] <Domevlo> bazhang: so let me get this straight.  Enabling backports + proposed = bleeding edge (Ubuntu style)?
[16:25] <nibsa1242b> Could someone point me to a guide on nut (network ups tools) under Hardy, it doesn't seem to be working after upgrade.
[16:25] <Pici> laeg: You need to read the INSTALL and README files within the extracted directory.
[16:25] <Jeruvy> Wobe: ok thanks.
[16:25] <bazhang> Domevlo: as bleeding as it gets
[16:25] <manifest_> bazhang: vista
[16:25] <nibsa1242b> keegan no, no idea intel is normally well supported
[16:25] <Flannel> Jeruvy: Alt CD would work.  Install a server/GUI-less install, then install them on top (otherwise you'll have to remove stuff).  Xubuntu uses xfce, the others you just have to grab from the repos
[16:25] <Domevlo> bazhang: oh ok.  i can understand that for proposed, but backports sounds like its composed of old packages
[16:25] <nibsa1242b> keegan do you know what type of pro wireless it is?
[16:25] <bazhang> manifest_: please explain what happens when you want to boot
[16:25] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, i have both enabled ....no blood shed here :)
[16:26] <bazhang> arvind_khadri: ;]
[16:26] <genii> Domevlo: You may also want to put into apt.conf  a line like     APT::Default-Release "experimental";              to make the most recent release available to install the default
[16:26] <keegan> nibsa1242b:  nope. whats the command to get that info.
[16:26] <forsaken> OpenOffice is opening a document I made read-only, anyone know how to edit said document?
[16:26] <laeg> Pici: ty ty
[16:26] <raindrop> don't you just type    sudo rmmod pcspkr    to get rid of the system beep?
[16:26] <manifest_> bazhang: it asks normally for if i want to see grub, but it doesnt show vista in the list.
[16:27] <Hammer89> *tries once more* ﻿how do I find out if direct rendering is enabled on my computer? (I know there was a command that you could run in terminal... cant remember what it was though)
[16:27] <bazhang> manifest_: then you need to update grub
[16:27] <Domevlo> genii: I would, but I'm running Linux Mint (which is based on some of Ubuntu's packages) and don't want the world to break.  I just reinstalled because I was messing around trying to get the hardy packages
[16:27] <pr0gr4mm3r> Does anyone know of a list of compatible video cards with open-source drivers for Ubuntu?
[16:27] <Wobe> keegan: try lspci
[16:27] <manifest_> where from bazhang?
[16:27] <bazhang> Hammer89: you may not get an answer in less than two minutes ;]
[16:28] <mickinator> i dont know a list, but most intel cards work, and you can get most ati/nvida cards working with envy
[16:28] <Wobe> pr0gr4mm3r: try http://www.linuxcompatible.org/
[16:28] <Hammer89> ﻿bazhang: lol... I know.. I only got a couple minute before I have to leave for work though :P
[16:28] <mickinator> ive an ati 2400 hd. and it works perfect with envy, dual head and everything
[16:28] <keegan> Wobe:  nibsa1242b:   06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Networ. this is the result
[16:28] <bazhang> Hammer89: we never leave--will be waiting for your return ;]
[16:28] <laeg> Pici: i already have a .azureus dir in ~/ and it containts active torrents, torrent files and my previous settings. how do i best approach this?
[16:29] <Hammer89> ﻿bazhang: lol... I know it :D
[16:29] <pr0gr4mm3r> ﻿mickinator: that's the exact card I have, and it's a nightmare...I will give envy a try
[16:29] <laeg> Pici: this is not in the README and there is no INSTALL text
[16:29] <Domevlo> bazhang: the emerald-themes package still does not appear
[16:29] <bazhang> Hammer89: is it glxgears?
[16:29] <puppetmaster> How to replace gstreamer with xine??
[16:29] <mickinator> programmer have u an email, ill email you instructions? and are u using 8.04?
[16:29] <Hammer89> bazhang: no...
[16:29] <Wobe> keegan: might be one for ndiswrapper
[16:29] <laeg> Pici: xine should remove gstreamer automagically on install
[16:29] <laeg> puppetmaster: even
[16:29] <manifest_> whats the grub that comes with the normal ubuntu?
[16:29] <Hammer89> ﻿bazhang: it was a termial command to get info on my GPU... drivers... etc
[16:29] <puppetmaster> what!!
[16:30] <bazhang> Hammer89: compiz can give you a better answer most likely
[16:30] <mickinator> peole dont wait for instructions lol
[16:30] <nibsa1242b> keegan Wobe the drivers for that are open source... see Intel www.intellinuxwireless.org
[16:30] <genii> !info grub | manifest
[16:30] <bazhang> Hammer89: ah that lspci
[16:30] <genii> Hmm
[16:30] <Wobe> nibsa1242b: I said might, I was about to check ;)
[16:30] <newguydude> Hey there, how do i reconfigure my xorg.conf, i jsut installed a restricted driver for my ati card, but the resolution is stuffed up
[16:30] <Hammer89> bazhang: I tried that... but I'm pretty sure it was a different command...
[16:30] <Odd-rationale> I would like to ssh into my machine, but my internal ip is different from my external ip. so i can only ssh from within my lan. Is there a way around this? Thanks!
[16:31] <newguydude> i tried:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:31] <newguydude>  but that did nothing
[16:31] <bazhang> or lshw -c | network? Hammer89 forgot but something close to that
[16:31] <keegan> so it should give me the same results as vista . unfortunately it dosnt.
[16:31] <genii> manifest_: On my 7.10 box it says: Installed: 0.97-29ubuntu4       from apt-cache policy
[16:31] <nibsa1242b> keegan Wobe I would hope that the open source drivers would work better then it under ndiswrapper, but you never know
[16:31] <bazhang> newguydude: this is hardy?
[16:31] <newguydude> nope gutsy
[16:31] <manifest_> genii: i got hardy
[16:31] <fr500> lts....three long years without sound in games :p
[16:31] <Wobe> nibsa1242b: it's not always the case.
[16:32] <manifest_> genii: which means that i got 8.04 if im rite
[16:32] <nibsa1242b> keegan- how much worse of a connection are you receiving? and how far are you away from the AP?
[16:32] <duelboot> Odd-rationale, I presume you have an external firewall...you can set it up to SSH from the outside, but you'll need to use port forwarding
[16:32] <bazhang> Hammer89: sorry vga not network
[16:32] <genii> manifest_: Then to find your version, do:   apt-cache policy grub   to see what's installed/available
[16:32] <legend2440> laeg: if you just want to try out azureus real quick go intoazureus folder wherever you extracted it to and open terminal there and type ./azureus. it will start up. no need to 'install' it anywhere. in mine there is a README.txt file
[16:32] <Hammer89> bazhang: it's giving me a command not found error
[16:32] <brane> Gutsy work good but Hardy wont on new comp ... i try everything
[16:32] <Wobe> newguydude: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf go down to the bottom where the resolutions are and check to see the right ones are in place.
[16:32] <amerio> does anybody know how to change the ownership of NTFS parition? i've tried chown but it didnt work
[16:32] <keegan> nibsa1242b:  well i am not shown networks with strength 1 on vista. although on vista , the signal is strong enough to connect.
[16:33] <genii> manifest_: Normally the bot here would tell us by the !info <packagename>  command but it seems currently inattentive
[16:33] <bazhang> lshw -c then Hammer89 will be a looong list though ;]
[16:33] <nibsa1242b> keegan strength 1?
[16:33] <CarlFK> Flannel: can you look at http://dpaste.com/47621/  and explain why ntp.ubuntu.com has offset 30.711160 but only on one of my boxes ?
[16:33] <t1n0m3n> I have Ubuntu 8.04 x64 version.  I have disabled all firefox extensions (for testing.)   I have flash installed (and it works.)  I cannot get http://www.ktm.com (Click on the Models, Accessories, and Service button) (USA site)  or a direct link is http://www.ktm.com/Models-Accessories.2.20.html  It tells me that I need the latest flash, however I do have flash installed and it works.  Any suggestions on getting this site to work?  Or is this a problem on
[16:33] <newguydude> Wobe im not sure what section your referring to, but in my xorg.conf theres nothing about resolution in any of the sections
[16:33] <roddersg> is there a command-line option to configure xserver-xorg?  dpkg-reconfigure does not work
[16:33] <compwiz18> sometimes wireless cards in Ubuntu incorrectly report signal strength
[16:33] <keegan> nibsa1242b:  thats 1 bar on wista.
[16:34] <keegan> vista*
[16:34] <roddersg> I think i have the same problem as newguydude
[16:34] <bazhang> roddersg: hardy?
[16:34] <roddersg> yes hardy
[16:34] <newguydude> when i type in fglrxinfo, i get  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> duelboot: Would I need to have control of the server? from which I get my internal ip via dhcp?
[16:34] <newguydude> woops typo
[16:34] <Ste> hi..anyone know anything about samba?
[16:34] <bazhang> sudo displayconfig-gtk roddersg
[16:34] <nibsa1242b> keegan ok... so you were at a marginal connection distance anyway; you could try it under ndiswrapper if you wanted
[16:34] <newguydude> when i type in fglrxinfo i get: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[16:34] <newguydude> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[16:34] <newguydude> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[16:34] <newguydude> damn sorry, was meant to be one line
[16:34] <roddersg> bazhang - doesn't work as I can't get X to start
[16:35] <bullium> does anyone know how to add the thin border to the main menu like the menu border is in xubuntu 8.04
[16:35] <nibsa1242b> Ste you may find better luck / more knowledgeable people in the Samba channel
[16:35] <newguydude> i have a HD 2600 XT Radeon if that helps, pci-e
[16:35] <bazhang> roddersg: what bout recovery mode then
[16:35] <k20a> where i do select which monitor i am using on 8.04? the autodetect in "screens" does nothing
[16:35] <Ste> I'm trying to set up an ubuntu media server...
[16:35] <roddersg> displayconfig-gtk only works in x, saw that in the bug area
[16:35] <keegan> anyways its okay, so far i have managed.
[16:35] <laeg> legend2440: i want to upgrade it from the version i've been using so i deleted the old via add/remove and downloaded the latest tar from their homepage, i then merged the azureus dir with my .azureus dir. i never said there was no README file just that it doesn't address updating :)
[16:35] <Wobe> newguydude: here is mine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8961/
[16:36] <roddersg> recovery ??  it doesn't detect the graphics features or rather I think the modes are out, but no modes there
[16:36] <Hammer89> ok... I'm off for work... thanks bazhang
[16:36] <Ste> got samba up and running, but the server edition of Ubuntu isn't picking up my usb external hard drives.  Is it possible to do this?  HELP!!!!
[16:36] <bazhang> bullium: why not just run xubuntu? if not then gnome-look
[16:36] <newguydude> Wobe thanks, i might try your xorg configuration and see what happens
[16:36] <k20a> i have  displayconfig-gtk installed but how do i use it
[16:36] <bazhang> !helpme | Ste
[16:36] <debasys> i was advised to do powersave -f to check whether my celeron laptop becomes any faster or not, after apt-getting powersaved package, powersave -f says 'speedstepping is not supported' .
[16:36] <nibsa1242b> Could someone point me to a resource for configuring nut on Hardy? It broke after the upgrade.
[16:37] <Ste> !helpme
[16:37] <Wobe> newguydude: that is what envy did for me, there is a ati command you can run also
[16:37] <bazhang> k20a: sudo first then that command
[16:37] <nibsa1242b> Ste could you pastebin the results of " sudo fdisk -l " for me?
[16:37] <k20a> yeah i dunno why i asked :(
[16:38] <newguydude> k brb, gona see how x likes this xorg.conf file
[16:38] <bazhang> roddersg: but there is an x to run that from correct?
[16:38] <roddersg> nope, didn't manage to get x to start.
[16:38] <manifest_> whats the newest grub?
[16:38] <manifest_> version and everything
[16:39] <warlock_mza> heloooo
[16:39] <newguydude> nah x didnt like that
[16:39] <warlock_mza> I've activated desktop effects -> compiz
[16:39] <newguydude> ill try envy instead
[16:39] <warlock_mza> but gnome-panel just appears gray
[16:39] <roddersg> i installed the server verson and then apt-got the ubuntu-desktop, gdm started and the screen went blank, the monitor showed that nothing was coming in
[16:39] <warlock_mza> until I deactivate effects
[16:39] <warlock_mza> anyone had that issue ?
[16:39] <Wobe> newguydude: good plan :)
[16:40] <roddersg> bazhang - ctrl-alt backspace killed x though
[16:40] <roddersg> so I know x was running, just that it didn't know how to configure the graphics screen
[16:40] <BasioDeJudas> hello all new to ubuntu and just have some questions...
[16:41] <debasys> !powersave
[16:41] <bazhang> please ask BasioDeJudas
[16:41] <laeg> i just installed a new app's dir into my ~ dir - should i copy and paste (if not cut and paste) the shell script into /use/bin?
[16:41] <newguydude> c'mon envy dont fail me :S
[16:41] <jaffarkelshac> can new fonts be added to the gnome-terminal font set?
[16:41] <BasioDeJudas> 8.04 is it good? and i was just trying to put it on a usb drive with 250gb but couldn't with the older Ubuntu
[16:41] <bazhang> !fonts | jaffarkelshac
[16:42] <newguydude> anyone else here had any problems with the ATi HD 2600 XT gphx cards?
[16:42] <roddersg> btw anyone tried upgrading 6.06 to 8.04 directly?
[16:42] <bazhang> BasioDeJudas: best to run livecd and see for yourself
[16:42] <jaffarkelshac> thx bazhang
[16:43] <azuki> is there an easy way to get a second screen working on a laptop? google tells me only to go into xorg.conf.. but I want to avoid that
[16:43] <BasioDeJudas> ok i read some where that now u can put the 8.04 on your computerwith out installing  it or something like that?
[16:43] <Apicio> someone knows why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes when Blueetooth Device is booting? I've installed it with Wubi...
[16:43] <bazhang> azuki: just plugging it in works for me
[16:43] <IdleOne> !wubi | BasioDeJudas
[16:43] <azuki> bazhang: nothing happens when I do that
[16:43] <Dassouki> how to copy a file from a local computer to a server host using scp
[16:44] <azuki> bazhang: detecting displays doesnt find anything//
[16:44] <bazhang> azuki: you went into the monitor config and tried?
[16:44] <bullium> bazhang: I don't think I need to run a different window manager to get a thin border on my menus...
[16:44] <azuki> maybe bios should enable it?
[16:44] <BasioDeJudas> aha! ok
[16:44] <newguydude> hey is there an official ubuntu torrent for downloading hardy?
[16:44] <bullium> bazhang: besides I run both just on different machines
[16:44] <azuki> bazhang: which one?
[16:44] <bazhang> bullium: the odds of someone else wanting that same thing on gnome are slim though--which why I suggested gnome-look
[16:44] <Pici> !torrents | newguydude
[16:45] <laeg> i just installed a new app's dir into my ~ dir - should i also copy and paste (if not cut and paste) the shell script into /use/bin?
[16:45] <bullium> bazhang: what I was saying is that I saw it in ubuntu during the RCs for 8.04 so I know gnome will do it
[16:45] <laeg> *usr
[16:45] <bullium> bazhang: I've looked on gnome look no luck yet
[16:45] <moveax> How do you start the sshd in Ubuntu?
[16:45] <LjL> laeg: no
[16:46] <moveax> Doesn't seem to be the common binary in /etc/init.d
[16:46] <bazhang> bullium: well you can repeat every so often if you wish--perhaps someone else has that set up--never know ;]
[16:46] <my_lap_is_hot> moveax: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd start
[16:46] <LjL> laeg: when you install applications like that (if you really have to), use /usr/local, if the files follow the UNIX hierarchy, or otherwise /opt
[16:46] <laeg> LjL: how come some apps have the shell script in /usr/bin and their configs in ~
[16:46] <moveax> my_lap_is_hot: crazy - OK, thank you.
[16:46] <Lamego> moveax, yes it is, not a binary, but a script on /etc/init.d
[16:46] <bullium> bazhang: thanks for the help
[16:46] <my_lap_is_hot> moveax: you'll need to sudo aptitude install ssh first
[16:46] <LjL> laeg: not some, *all* apps do
[16:46] <LjL> laeg: and why are you saying it's shell scripts?
[16:47] <LjL> !files > laeg    (laeg, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:47] <laeg> LjL: i have a shell script
[16:47] <LjL> laeg: and the shell script does what?
[16:47] <Ste> ok, posted to paste bin nibsa1242b
[16:47] <bazhang> though its a message from ubottu now ;]
[16:47] <moveax> my_lap_is_hot, Lamego: thanks.
[16:47] <laeg> LjL: there was an .azureus dir in my ~ already so i thought i should just merge the azureus tar with it
[16:47] <laeg> LjL: the shell script is called azureus
[16:47] <LjL> !azureus | laeg
[16:47] <nibsa1242b> Ste link?
[16:48] <laeg> LjL: i will read both links. ty :)
[16:48] <LjL> laeg: do you just *have* to use a torrent client that's not in the repositories? many are
[16:48] <Apicio> someone knows why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes when Blueetooth Device is booting? I've installed Ubuntu with Wubi on WinXP. :)
[16:48] <LjL> !torrent | laeg
[16:48] <laeg> LjL: i really really do. i have be through extensive testing of all the others over the last week
[16:48] <noodlesgc> I recommend deluge for torrents
[16:48] <laeg> deluge has a clientside ratio bug
[16:48] <moveax> So what's the difference between 'apt-get' and 'aptitude'?
[16:48] <bazhang> laeg: transmission is far better or deluge
[16:48] <laeg> and doesn't seed aswell as azureus or utorrent under wine
[16:48] <LjL> laeg: ok then. don't ever touch /usr, though, except for /usr/local
[16:48] <Supermaks> About deluge: I set all four proxies in configuration but anyway deluge make direct connect to seeds and peers. What's wrong ?
[16:49] <LjL> !aptitude | moveax
[16:49] <noodlesgc> i refuse to use utorrent
[16:49] <bazhang> moveax: aptitude sometime handles deps better
[16:49] <laeg> bazhang: i have seeding commitments, i need a client that will rotate the hundreds of files i'm seeding
[16:49] <newguydude> wohhooo! success, envy is awesome, i even got eye candy :)
[16:49] <LjL> moveax: aptitude is much stronger with searches, and has a GUI
[16:49] <weaseal> what package is aclocal in?
[16:49] <laeg> ty guys
[16:50] <Ste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8963/
[16:50] <moveax> LjL: I see. So when I visit the 'Add/Remove Software' menu item, the GUI I'm seeing is apititude's GUI?
[16:50] <amerio> does anybody know how to change the ownership of NTFS parition? i've tried chown but it didnt work
[16:50] <bazhang> amerio: with sudo?
[16:50] <LjL> weaseal: automake1.9, on hardy by default
[16:51] <amerio> bazhang: yeah with sudo chown -R amer:amer /media/sda6 but didnt work
[16:51] <LjL> weaseal: i'd suggest you install build-essential, if you're trying to compile things
[16:51] <weaseal> no one knows what package aclocal is in?
[16:51] <LjL> weaseal: i just told you
[16:51] <warlock_mza> does anyone get a blank panel when using compiz effects ?
[16:51] <weaseal> lol sorry thanks
[16:51] <necrolancer> hello I am trying to build DBD::Interbase for 64 bit Ubuntu (7.10, destkop). I have to use Firebird 1.5.4, as I am writing code interacting with some external vendor package basing on it. Trouble is that libfbclient1 is not 64bit ready. So when I did compile it, linking against 32bit libs... the output InterBase.so cannot be loaded by the rest of 64-bit enabled DBI framework. Question is: how DEEP do I have to rebuild to get my 64-bit enabled Apache
[16:51] <fiyawerx> After a fresh install of 8.04, is it normal for your hard drive to be going nuts? it sounds like its just accessing non stop
[16:51] <LjL> fiyawerx: might be the file indexer
[16:51] <afallenhope> how do I list my current partitions?
[16:51] <manifest_> what is the command to mount C: to somewhere
[16:51] <weaseal> LjL I do have build essential
[16:51] <LjL> !ntfs > manifest_    (manifest_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:51] <fiyawerx> ah, just stopped now after I asked, figures
[16:52] <LjL> afallenhope: sudo fdisk -l /dev/drivename
[16:52] <weaseal> automake is apparently not in there by default
[16:52] <unop> weaseal, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[16:52] <afallenhope> LjL: I don't know the drive name
[16:52] <weaseal> lol i got it through apt-get thanks
[16:52] <afallenhope> hence the reason why I want to view them
[16:52] <LjL> weaseal: well, it's only a Suggests
[16:52] <jason0_> Any tutorials out there on installing java jre + 8.04 + x86_64?
[16:52] <zionpsyfer> Anyone run into a "No installable kernel found in the defined APT sources" error during install?
[16:52] <afallenhope> I'm trying to uninstall Ubuntu and install Fedora...
[16:52] <LjL> !gparted | afallenhope
[16:53] <afallenhope> ty
[16:53] <bazhang> afallenhope: best ask in #fedora then
[16:53] <adi_day> trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrueyutrhuj
[16:53] <amerio> bazhang: any idea?
[16:53] <bazhang> adi_day: please dont
[16:53] <LjL> adi_day: tell your cat to stop stomping on the keyboard
[16:54] <nett00n> нарооод
[16:54] <laeg> LjL: re your azureus install link, won't sudo apt-get install azureus
[16:54] <bazhang> amerio: did you read the ntfs link?
[16:54] <LjL> !ru | nett00n
[16:54] <MrObvious> !ru | nett00n
[16:54] <MrObvious> Nevermind
[16:54] <MrObvious> lol
[16:54] <laeg> wasn't finished line
[16:54] <amerio> bazhang: I didnt get it sorry , can u post it again?
[16:54] <nett00n> houps, sorry
[16:54] <nett00n> =)
[16:54] <LjL> laeg: well, azureus *is* indeed available in the repos, in Hardy
[16:54] <laeg> LjL: re your azureus install link, won't sudo apt-get install azureus just install the same old version applications > add/remove does?
[16:55] <bazhang> read the private message from ubottu amerio
[16:55] <laeg> LjL: ya but it's 2.5x, they're past version 3.x
[16:55] <laeg> -x
[16:55] <laeg> brb
[16:55] <amerio> bazhang: I didnt get any private message :S
[16:55] <Limbeaux> i installed ubuntu server and chose the lamp part of the initial installation.   Should cgi work by default?
[16:55] <adriaan> !files > adriaan
[16:55] <bazhang> !ntfs | amerio
[16:55] <eimajenthat> Does Ubuntu Server 8.04 use inetd or xinetd by default?
[16:55] <omnz0r> hi guys, I have this annoying problem; I just hooked up an external monitor to my laptop, which works. I now want to maximize windows, but they only resize up to the size of the laptop monitor, which is not as high as I would like it to be. What do I do? I use fluxbox fo WM btw
[16:55] <Dassouki> i can't get scpto work it's giving me a permission denied, is there a way i can do a sudo on the host while in scp
[16:55] <LjL> laeg: yes, it will
[16:56] <amerio> bazhang: thanx
[16:56] <LjL> laeg: it also links to this thread, though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=144546&highlight=azureus
[16:56] <necrolancer> can one enlighten me with google pharse to search for? `multilib perl 32bit'?
[16:56] <Apicio> someone knows why Ubuntu 8.04 freezes when Blueetooth Device is booting? I've installed Ubuntu with Wubi on WinXP. :)
[16:56] <manifest_> hmm
[16:57] <tyranos> i can change brightness on my screen using /etc/acpi/video-brightnessup.sh but not with the fn-keys
[16:57] <Apicio> it refuses to load..
[16:57] <LjL> Apicio: bluetooth device?
[16:57] <adi_day> hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:57] <laeg> LjL: my bad ty
[16:57] <LjL> adi_day: please join #ubuntu-ops when your cat has stopped mishandling the keyboard
[16:57] <exetoc> hello. i get massive mouse/kb delay for a short while if i move the mouse rapidly in a fullscreen application like Urban Terror (It doesn't happen in windowed mode). Does anyone know what might cause this?
[16:58] <Apicio> yes...I mean..it loads Hardware, kernetl and the other things...when it loads Bluetooth it stops
[16:58] <mattperry> need help using default vnc server in ubuntu 8.04 fresh install
[16:58] <genii> omnz0r: Normally then you will have two entries in the xorg.file, one for each display. You should be able to specify there the horiz/vert refresh settings for that external in there, or use the read-edid utilities to find the modelines it uses and use that info
[16:58] <bazhang> haha
[16:58] <Apicio> maybe a wrong installation?
[16:58] <azuki> hmmmm. very odd.. the screen seems to work at startup.. but when ubuntu starts it no longer displays anything
[16:59] <eht> has somebody seen Hardy for PS3 ?
[16:59] <LjL> Apicio: is bluetooth provided by an USB key?
[16:59] <Apicio> No, I don't have BT devices on my PC..
[16:59] <GaintSura> hey guys, I just spent the last 12 hours installing ndiswrapper to get my wireless to work. Now that I have it installed, I cannot get a connection to any wireless network. My AP uses WEP, I have the key, the hardware mac for the AP, etc and yet either I try to connect and it keeps asking for the key, or it doesnt ask for the key and doesnt obtain an IP... could someone point me in the right directions?
[16:59] <GaintSura> direction*
[16:59] <Apicio> jut an USB Hub, USB Mouse, USB keyboard and a WiFi Pen
[16:59] <LjL> Apicio: then i don't know why it is, however you could try booting into recovery mode, and disable bluetooth in /etc/default/bluetooth
[17:00] <Apicio> yeah now I try..if it'll not work I'll try to remove and reinstall it
[17:00] <Apicio> thanks :)
[17:00] <tyranos> GaintSura, when asked for the key there is wep hex 64 and 128 bit , try them all
[17:00] <Apicio> ahehm...how to disable it? :P
[17:00] <GaintSura> tyranos: done it
[17:01] <GaintSura> didnt change anything
[17:01] <manifest_> how do i gain root=
[17:01] <drw> Hi there
[17:01] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, you around
[17:01] <soundray> Apicio: set BLUETOOTH_ENABLED to 0 (10th line or so)
[17:01] <arvind_khadri> manifest_, sudo
[17:01] <drw> I have a wireless problem with 8.04 that has been driving me crazy, spent hours trying to fix it.  Can anyone help?
[17:01] <iclebyte> any one used LCDProc before?
[17:01] <manifest_> just sudo?
[17:02] <amerio> bazhang:  i think my fstab file looks weird , dont you think? ---> http://www.pastebin.ca/1003008
[17:02] <Apicio> soundray: thanks ^__^
[17:02] <tyranos> GaintSura, have looked at this ?? http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/160673/ if u have the same adapter as me
[17:02] <arvind_khadri> manifest_, what way do you want to gain it
[17:02] <weaseal> anyone running enlightenment17?
[17:03] <GaintSura> tyranos: got that page in english?
[17:03] <soundray> amerio: looks all right to me
[17:03] <GaintSura> brb
[17:03] <agf> iam from greece  hello ....................
[17:03] <GaintSura> back
[17:03] <manifest_> khradi: i need it to moun disks
[17:03] <amerio> soundray: do you have any idea how to change the ownership of NTFS , i've tried chown but didnt work
[17:03] <dthacker-work> happy wednesday.   Are there any gnome based music players that will send "scrobbles" of played tracks to last.fm?
[17:03] <manifest_> amerio: same problem i think
[17:04] <arvind_khadri> manifest_, sudo mount /dev/hdax /path/to/mount
[17:04] <GaintSura> tyranos: I actually do have that card
[17:04] <newguydude> downloading hardy now, cant wait :)
[17:04] <drw> ok, I can see it's busy.  Thanks.  Bye.
[17:04] <soundray> amerio: you can use the uid option in place of defaults. man fstab will help. Have you seen the factoid:
[17:04] <amerio> manifest_ you're not able to change the ownership to your current user?
[17:04] <soundray> !ntfs | amerio
[17:05] <amerio> soundray: I just finished reading this guide
[17:05] <manifest_> amerio: i think so
[17:05] <tyranos> GaintSura, no , try the first command on it , if u have the same output then go on  otherwise stop
[17:05] <manifest_> when the sudo asks my password, i enter it and it claims that /path/to/mount doesnt exist
[17:06] <azuki> anybody here know what to do to activate a second screen? (on a laptop)
[17:06] <sc006> any one have problems with ut2004 after upgrading to 8.04, or is it the nvidia driver?
[17:06] <mattperry> need help with vnc on ubuntu 8.04
[17:06] <GaintSura> tyranos: I spent about an hour and a half last night installing ndiswrapper, everything turned out fine
[17:07] <derspankster> tyranos: you sound like me the first time I installed ndiswrapper!
[17:07] <tyranos> GaintSura, i have the page in english ,http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntuusers.de%2Ftopic%2F160673%2F&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
[17:07] <manifest_> khadri:  when the sudo asks my password, i enter it and it claims that /path/to/mount doesnt exist
[17:07] <stoneDJay> hi... How could I find all files relate with my previous Cedega installation and remove then?   I dont have Cedega anymore and some trash files still be in my system...   ps; my english is so poor....
[17:07] <newguydude> heyare there any vpn clients that will allow to to connect to a hamachi vpn server on a windows machine?
[17:08] <arvind_khadri> arvind_khadri, you need to create the mount point say /media/sda1 should exist
[17:08] <tyranos> derspankster, y , i fixed mine in like 10 min
[17:08] <sc006> .cedega should be in your home dir
[17:08] <GaintSura> thanks tyranos. I will try that
[17:08] <derspankster> tyranos: that's how we learn.
[17:09] <mortena76876> hello..where do i find the bot log in 8.04?
[17:09] <weaseal> anyone know what to do with the error error: ‘Ximage_Info’ has no member named ‘mul_r’?
[17:09] <iclebyte> i've connected a Matrix Orbital LK204-25-USB module to my ubuntu box, how can i find out which tty it's connected too? /dev/usb doesnt exist nor do any /dev/ttyUSBx entries!
[17:09] <weaseal> (compiling)
[17:09] <sc006> any one having prob with 3d games after upgrading to 8.04
[17:09] <arvind_khadri> !tab | manifest_
[17:09] <amerio> !FUSE | amerio
[17:09] <styrman> i'm using aterm and i'm having an issue with 'transparancy' not updating. ( i would use term that comes with but, other issues with it ).. Basicly It leaves an ugly color after I use the menu, or move the window it doesn't refresh the background image for transperancy
[17:09] <omnz0r> genii: I have a section called Screen with a subsection called Display, and I have another section called Monitor
[17:10] <Cann0n> my gnome-screensaver freezes my computer. where is the config file for it?
[17:10] <manifest_> !tab | manifest_
[17:10] <manifest_> lolwut
[17:10] <arvind_khadri> !tab
[17:10] <tyranos> derspankster, my problem now is getting the fn key for brightness working , i can set it manually using script located in /etc/acpi but not wih the fn keys
[17:10] <Helsu> I can't connect with remote desktop with the new Ubuntu, and I can't view the shared folders (the Ubuntu box isn't discovered). What's going on?
[17:10] <omnz0r> genii: So what you're saying is that like the subsection called Display, I can make a subsection under Monitor that have modes in it?
[17:10] <arvind_khadri> the bots seem to be dead
[17:10] <genii> omnz0r: The Monitor sections are what you're looking for. There should be two of them
[17:10] <Girltalk> styrman: gnome-terminal is really efficient, and just as customizable. make the switch, check out the man pages
[17:11] <derspankster> tyranos: my Acer worked out of the box - lucky me.
[17:11] <omnz0r> genii: ok, there's only one for the external
[17:11] <laeg> i am trying to get past the java6-jre license in terminal by selecting 'Ok' but pressing alt+o doesn't do anything - how do i proceed?
[17:11] <Cann0n> my gnome-screensaver freezes my computer. where is the config file for it?
[17:11] <soundray> laeg: hit Tab
[17:11] <styrman> Girltalk: i know it is, but its mapped keys are messing me up, so I use aterm
[17:11] <laeg> soundray: ty bro
[17:11] <laeg> :D
[17:11]  * laeg cheers at soundray 
[17:11] <omnz0r> genii: with horizSync and vertRefresh set
[17:11] <brane> Microsoft button do nothing in Ubuntu ????
[17:11] <laeg> brane: you can configure it
[17:12] <GaintSura> tyranos: something I just noticed thats interesting from that page that is not showing on mine.. I show lo eth0 and wlan0, but no ath0. is that because I did not modprobe ath_pci?
[17:12] <newguydude> heyare there any vpn clients that will allow to to connect to a hamachi vpn server on a windows machine?
[17:12] <laeg> brane: system > preferences > window
[17:12] <tonybaloney867> Okay, I'm trying to format a USB flash drive which needs to be usable with Windows machines. What's the difference between the "msdos" and "vfat" filesystems which I seem to be able to specify with mkfs at the terminal?
[17:12] <brane> no thanks i hate Vista ...
[17:12] <tyranos> well u shuld modprobe ath_pci and add it to /etc/modules
[17:12] <brane> thanks !
[17:12] <iclebyte> tonybaloney867, vfat = fat32 which is the filesystem used from windows98 +. ideally you should use NTFS tho..
[17:12] <Cann0n> my gnome-screensaver locks up my system. any fixes? hardy heron
[17:13] <newguydude> heyare there any vpn clients that will allow to to connect to a hamachi vpn server on a windows machine?
[17:13] <styrman> Girltalk: well ok i found i could disable the shortcuts ;D thx
[17:13] <GaintSura> tyranos: thanks, will try.. gotta get going
[17:13] <tonybaloney867> iclebyte: Is there any reason why I should use NTFS? It's only a 512MB flash drive
[17:13] <tyranos> ud also need to reboot maybe
[17:13] <genii> omnz0r: With 2 displays you normally get 2 Monitor sections in xorg.conf, one would be for the default/builtin laptop screen in this case, the second would be for the external. Do you have same content displaying on both screns or using them as separate desktops?
[17:13] <nsx> ntfs is less prone to fragmentation and corruption than fat
[17:13] <laeg> brane: i hate windows also, i mean you can config the windows key to do stuff in ubuntu
[17:13] <nsx> there are two good reasons
[17:13] <iclebyte> tonybaloney867, um... its the modern windows standard..  fat32 will work fine .. its personal preference really
[17:13] <omnz0r> genii: same on both
[17:14] <Cann0n> does anyone know where the config file is that stores screensaver data?
[17:14] <omnz0r> using xran
[17:14] <laeg> nsx: is ext3 the best?
[17:14] <nsx> ntfs also has user security
[17:14] <omnz0r> xrandr*
[17:14] <Girltalk> styrman: i used to be an Eterm freak but my gnome terminals look sexy. also, they embed into any compiz desktop with ease
[17:14] <nsx> I'm not sure what that means.  in every file system there are tradeoffs made.
[17:14] <tonybaloney867> Ahhh okay. I was thinking Fat32 in case I need to plug it into a Mac. (NTFS-3G is still technically beta on Mac OS X)
[17:14] <iclebyte> if you used ext3 then you cant use it in windows...
[17:14] <styrman> Girltalk: yeah i know i just dont run compiz atm
[17:14] <azuki> can I get here in ubuntu? : http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarotoast/1461847980/
[17:14] <laeg> nsx: i only ask because afaik ubuntu prefers ext3 but i think windows like ntfs
[17:14] <nsx> there's an ext3 driver for windows
[17:14] <genii> omnz0r: Ah. So in this case the hardware is only outputting what it knows it can reasonable send to the builtin.
[17:14] <iclebyte> tonybaloney867, run with fat32 then. its pretty easy to change it anyway =)
[17:14] <styrman> Girltalk: thanks =)
[17:14] <brane> I love Ubuntu so more and more and thanks to friends for help !
[17:14] <azuki> in opensuse itś quite normal
[17:15] <iclebyte> nsx, not by default tho?
[17:15] <Cann0n> does anyone know where the config file is that stores screensaver data?
[17:15] <laeg> brane: we are not friends
[17:15] <azuki> but in ubuntu I can find it
[17:15] <tonybaloney867> (Plus NTFS-3G requires sudo/root privileges to install, which isn't always an option)
[17:15] <laeg> brane: :P
[17:15] <omnz0r> genii: ok, so I'm stuck here?
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> iclebyte, thats wrong you can download some free software in windows and read and write ext3
[17:15] <tonybaloney867> Hehe thanks guys :)
[17:15] <iclebyte> arvind_khadri,  i just said 'by default'
[17:15] <brane> ok but you have speed finger thanks !
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> iclebyte, oops sorry :) didnt see that
[17:15] <Cann0n> can anyone help me?
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> Cann0n, i feel its compiz
[17:16] <paynito> i tried to move my home to a new partition and couldn't boot after that, it tried to boot as root and quit in less than 10 secs, now i am booted off the 8.04 live cd, how can i edit my fstab from here?
[17:16] <azuki> Cann0n: changes are someone could
[17:16] <azuki> chances
[17:16] <sc006> Cann0n: maye .gnome2
[17:16] <teasnow> 大家好啊，呵呵
[17:16] <genii> omnz0r: Most laptops have 3 settings for the video.   Both on, cloned (what it seems you have), external only on, internal only on. What you'd probably want is internal on. Then to poke around in lspci to see where the second output is on the pci bus and make an entry in xorg for it, along with a second Monitor section
[17:16] <Cann0n> arvind_khadri, azuki, any fixes? it was working up until lastnight
[17:16] <DeviantMIND> can someone help me to find animated wallpapers and how to intall it...using 8.04
[17:16] <sbox> Hello all, does anyone know how to start deluge torrent client from command?
[17:17] <arvind_khadri> Cann0n, try disabling compiz
[17:17] <dupin> paynito :sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[17:17] <Cann0n> sc006, what file? im not seeing anything with it
[17:17] <musikgoat> paynito: it should be mounted under /media/sd*
[17:17] <omnz0r> genii: ok, I'll look into it then ... thank you :)
[17:17] <genii> omnz0r: np
[17:17] <musikgoat> paynito: or hd*
[17:17] <napnap> please , please, anyone can help me to deal with java ? I can't display applet and javawebstart with Hardy x64 , I tried *multiple* things (1,5 days) whithout success
[17:17] <paynito> that seems to be the cd fstab, it's not the same as the one on  my hdd
[17:17] <Supermaks> About deluge: I set all four proxies in configuration but anyway deluge make direct connect to seeds and peers. Why?
[17:18] <Cann0n> arvind_khadri, i tried that, but when i run the gnome-screensaver it locks up
[17:18] <Cann0n> still*
[17:18] <arvind_khadri> Cann0n, ok i think you should also ask this in #compiz
[17:18] <DeviantMIND> can someone help me to find animated wallpapers and how to intall it...using 8.04
[17:18] <brane> where is "PATH" in Ubuntu ?
[17:19] <arvind_khadri> DeviantMIND, gnome-look.org
[17:19] <unop> brane, look in ~/.bash_profile
[17:19] <Girltalk> Cann0n: i second arvind, definitely ask in compiz. those crazy devs will help you out
[17:19] <sc006> cann0n: are you using the nvidia driver by any chance
[17:19] <arvind_khadri> Girltalk, :)
[17:19] <paynito> i tried sudo nano /media/sda1/etc/fstab  then sda6 then sda7 all say new file
[17:19] <brane> ok thanks !
[17:19] <Cann0n> sc006, no. ati
[17:19] <boaz> Is there any free open source virtual machine software comparable to VMWare that will run on a AMD 64 x2 host?
[17:19] <soundray> brane: it's normally set system-wide in /etc/profile -- modify for a single user in $HOME/.bashrc (not .bash_profile, unop...)
[17:19] <cjk>  /j #mysql
[17:20] <musikgoat> paynito: if you ls /media/sda1  or any of the others, do you see the normal filesystem?
[17:20] <Cann0n> ive never had a problem up until last night. it's almost as if there's an error in the config, like its trying to load two at once. i've uninstalled gnome-screensaver and reinstalled
[17:20] <brane> super !
[17:20] <musikgoat> paynito: your root may not be mounted
[17:20] <dupin> paynito sudo nano /dev/sda1/etc/fstab
[17:20] <MoTec> ubuntu server is powering my new NAS... All is good! :)
[17:20] <soundray> dupin: please don't (paynito, that's bad advice)
[17:20] <sc006> virtual box is a good VM
[17:21] <paynito> it looks like my sda6 is /media/disk-1
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> dupin, just do this mount the drive onto /mnt
[17:21] <jose_figue> ve
[17:21] <soundray> paynito: is sda6 where you installed ubuntu?
[17:21] <legend2440> Cann0n: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185794
[17:21] <arvind_khadri> dupin, then chroot into it
[17:21] <sbox> anyone here use deluge client?
[17:21] <paynito> yes soundray
[17:22] <arvind_khadri> paynito, mount it to /mnt
[17:22] <soundray> paynito: then your fstab should be in /media/disk-1/etc/fstab
[17:22] <kristian42> sbox: yes, whats your q ?
[17:22] <unop> soundray, PATH is usually set in ~/.bash_profile (as it's the file thats sourced in login shells)
[17:22] <love4love> introduction to c programming: http://learntoc.blogspot.com , will update soon with complete tutorials
[17:22] <arvind_khadri> paynito, then chroot into it and do gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[17:22] <boaz> scoo6, Will Virtualbox run on the AMD 64 processor? I understood that it only runs on Intel processors.
[17:22] <unop> soundray, and i do know my bash thanks :)
[17:22] <pr0gr4mm3r> ﻿mickinator: envy was able to install my ati driver, but I am stuck at an extremely low resolution...the Catalyst control center says that my monitors can't handle anything higher than 1024x768...they very well can, so is there a way I change this?
[17:23] <manifest_> how do i install NTFS-3g
[17:23] <sbox> kristian42: I'm tyring to launch it from command like but all i get is errors, however if I launch it from the menu button it's fine. I tried launching by using sudo deluge& and deluge&
[17:23] <unop> manifest_, it's installed by default if you are using feisty or above
[17:23] <soundray> unop: you're welcome. Your knowledge doesn't seem up-to-date, though - Ubuntu has departed from the .bash_profile tradition.
[17:23] <tensai457> hi, is there any program that can initiate a ssh connection when mail is received?
[17:23] <manifest_> unop: so just use the commands?
[17:23] <paynito> yes i found it in /media/disk-1/etc/fstab    ahhh  /dev/sda1 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2/   the 2 should be a zero, save reboot, eject live cd, everything is perfect, cross fingers?
[17:23] <kristian42> sbox: You may have to delete your .deluge directory
[17:24] <sbox> kristian42: ahh ok, how come?
[17:24] <kristian42> sbox: Hang on a second, Ill check what you sjould delete
[17:24] <chris_420> okay  i have a wireless issue....  it seems after i restart my machine... and first boot up for 15 20 minutes i have a reliable connection... after that it goes to crap... i would like to update my distribution BUT am afraid to do it with such lousy connection....
[17:24] <unop> soundray, i tend to follow the bash man page .. it's the canonical source for clarification where things tend to go askew
[17:24] <sbox> kristian42: nice one
[17:24] <chris_420> notices xmms or too much load on it also  sends network connection to the grave
[17:24] <xkrchnav> Hello, please do you recomment Ubuntu for old computer (Duron 1000, 256 MB RAM). Main think I want to use it for is TV card. Card is also old one conexant fusion 878a probably. It is on the chip. Sorry for repost - connection problems
[17:25] <Sttr> jkk
[17:25] <soundray> paynito: not sure you've found the problem there...
[17:25] <paynito> do i put a # infront of lines in my fstab that i want to mount on startup?
[17:25] <bigtimer121> my computer did a driver check and it won't go through with it. It says it cannot find commands to 331 things. anyone know why
[17:25] <eimajenthat> Does Ubuntu Server 8.04 use inetd or xinetd by default?
[17:26] <soundray> paynito: no, lines starting with # are comments and will be ignored
[17:26] <AncientPC> xkrchnav: First check if the card has linux drivers on Google beforehand, if you do go ahead and use Ubuntu I'd suggest getting 256MB more RAM or using xubuntu.
[17:26] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  im running kubuntu 7.10 on a p3 650  with 512 ram and it runs sweet
[17:26] <paynito> i have # /dev/sda6  and # /dev/sda7
[17:26] <kristian42> sbox: Are you there ?
[17:26] <sbox> kristian42: yup
[17:27] <xkrchnav> spideyman but I have only 256...
[17:27] <kristian42> sbox: Take a backup first, but delete .config/deluge
[17:27] <pr0gr4mm3r> does anybody know how to change the max resolution on ati cards?
[17:27] <sparr__> how do i downgrade from firefox 3 to 2?
[17:27] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  yeah sry i just seen that
[17:27] <kristian42> sbox: Sometimes it happens that deluge breaks its own configuration
[17:27] <paynito> should i put the UUID instead of /dev/sda1?
[17:27] <sbox> kristian42: sudo rm ~ / .config / deluge
[17:27] <xkrchnav> AncientPC thanks. But I don't want to buy anything there it is really old - it would be better to buy completely new
[17:27] <sbox> kristian42: thing is it starts in gui mode
[17:27] <dupin> xkrchnav : Install Xubuntu with alternate CD
[17:27] <sbox> but can't get it to start from command line
[17:27] <teasnow> Who can tell me how to make a new language file for a program?Where can I find the current language for the program?
[17:28] <amerio> guys how to test if samba is working or not?
[17:28] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  or puppy linux
[17:28] <soundray> paynito: I tend to do that, but it doesn't make a huge difference
[17:28] <paynito> my / and swap both have their lines written that way
[17:28] <sparr__> !firefox
[17:28] <sc006> use the alternative cd to install if you do not have much ram
[17:28] <kristian42> sbox: You may need to sudo to delete the files, but I wouldnt sudo when restarting.
[17:28] <xkrchnav> what is puppy linux?
[17:28] <paynito> where do i find the uuid? from cli
[17:28] <xkrchnav> xubuntu - Ok I'm going to find it... and is there support for TV cards? do you have experience with TV in ubuntu?
[17:28] <AncientPC> xkrchnav: use Puppy Linux or DSL or Knoppix, Wikipedia / distrowatch will have more info.
[17:28] <sparr__> paynito: sudo /sbin/blkid
[17:29] <kristian42> sbox: Deluge has had a very explosive development and I've known it to break its own config from time to time. Use sudo rm -rf .config/deluge. Dont sudo deluge thereafter
[17:29] <dupin> xkrchnav :http://puppylinux.com/
[17:29] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  its a flavour of damn small linux I have it running very well on a p2 350 with 192 ram
[17:29] <soundray> unop: I see, good to know
[17:29] <Konam> Hi, i was messing with my home directory (trying to change it to another) and after I almost lost my session now that i got it back every time I login a gnome message tells me that the .dmrc file and the user must have 644 permission but when I give that permission my gnome session mess up again, how do I get rid of that message?
[17:29] <Nith> uh, whats the command to do a dist-upgrade ?
[17:29] <leopartux> hi  how can i see the programs running right now
[17:29] <surplusxmas> the AMD64 alternate install fails at "select and install software"  is this a common issue?
[17:29] <soundray> paynito: run blkid to see all your UUIDs
[17:29] <xkrchnav> spideyman thanks
[17:29] <manifest_> how do i install the newest grub?
[17:29] <soundray> surplusxmas: no. You should check the integrity of your CD.
[17:29] <Nith> leopartux: open a terminal and type 'ps -e'
[17:30] <surplusxmas> I did, the CD was good.
[17:30] <leopartux> thanks
[17:30] <Nith> leopartux: alternatively, you can use the "system monitor" in the System -> administration menu
[17:30] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  check it out its an amazing little os
[17:30] <paynito> got it, now i need a pencil then replace /dev/sda1 with the uuid in fstab
[17:30] <sc006> i have run ubuntu on amd k6 II 300mhz 192 ram it worked, but was slow of coarse
[17:30] <pr0gr4mm3r> ﻿sparr__: you can downgrade Firefox by searching "Firefox 2" in the Add/Remove Applications
[17:31] <AtomicSpark> !paste
[17:31] <sparr__> thank you
[17:31] <Sergeant_Pony> is alsa-utils version 1.0.16 in hardy? does anyone know?
[17:31] <eth01> sudo apt-get remove firefox-3; apt-get install firefox-2
[17:31] <dupin>    manifest_ :           http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[17:31] <eth01> this will achieve the same ^
[17:31] <funkyHat> After upgrading to 8.04 X dies after a couple of minutes (using either fglrx or ati driver)
[17:31] <soundray> !info alsa-utils hardy | Sergeant_Pony
[17:31] <xkrchnav> spideyman better than ubuntu? I'm trying to find easy and light OS.... and of course use TV card there...
[17:31] <funkyHat> Graphics card is a Mobility Radeon 9600
[17:31] <funkyHat> Anyone know what the problem could be? :-(
[17:32] <spideyman> xkrchnav,  not really better but extremely functional on older hardware
[17:32] <Sergeant_Pony> soundray got no reply...
[17:32] <soundray> Sergeant_Pony: yeah... Are you on hardy?
[17:32] <Konam>  i was messing with my home directory (trying to change it to another) and after I almost lost my session now that i got it back every time I login a gnome message tells me that the .dmrc file and the user must have 644 permission but when I give that permission my gnome session mess up again, how do I get rid of that message?
[17:33] <Nith> can anyone tell my why sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sudo aptitude full-upgrade do nothing on this gutsy box?
[17:33] <spideyman> xkrchnav, try the live cd and see what you think you could also try to set up your card b4 you actually install the os
[17:33] <Sergeant_Pony> I'm running hardy on my laptop...
[17:33] <xkrchnav> spideyman it would be great to boot it from CD only when want to watch TV... but I don't know if it detects card...
[17:33] <egoleo> hello
[17:33] <soundray> Sergeant_Pony: do an 'apt-cache policy alsa-utils' then to find out
[17:34] <egoleo> someone help me with install codecs on hardy
[17:34] <egoleo> plse
[17:34] <Sergeant_Pony> soundray: on mine it say's 1.0.15
[17:34] <bigtimer121> what does the driver check up do???
[17:34] <xkrchnav> spideyman how can I set up card? without installing? is it possible?
[17:34] <AncientPC> xkrchnav: The only way to tell if it supports your card is to google or burn it on a CD and try using it.
[17:34] <spideyman> xkrchnav, theres only one way to find out
[17:34] <bigtimer121> what is the command for restarting your computer
[17:34] <sparr__> bigfuzzyjesus_: sudo reboot
[17:34] <AncientPC> egoleo: Are you using gstreamer or xine?  What kind of video file are you trying to play?
[17:34] <AncientPC> bigtimer121: sudo shutdown now -r
[17:34] <ibleed> Konam, that happened to me after resizing my home partition.  it was fixed by giving something permissions "700" to either a file or /home.  i'm not very used to chmod so its hard for me to remember.
[17:34] <manifest_> dupin: will that install the newest grub?
[17:34] <spideyman> xkrchnav, you can set up shit from the live cd
[17:34] <chris_420> why is my network connection flaky when under load but good when basically idle?   can anyone help me find the solution?
[17:34] <egoleo> avi and mp3
[17:34] <Annirak> So, xmms2 has stopped working.  I try to start it with xmms2tray and it launches xmms2d, but when I try to play a song, it does nothing, and xmms2tray reports that the daemon is stopped.  gxmms2 shows the song name as '.'.  xmms2 worked yesterday.  what can I do to get it going again?
[17:34] <soundray> Nith: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[17:34] <sc006> u can look the card up and see if it supported
[17:35] <eth01> !language | spideyman
[17:35] <egoleo> but i want to be able to play all files
[17:35] <Supermaks> anyone use deluge with socks5 ?
[17:35] <spideyman> oops sry
[17:35] <xkrchnav> AncientPC, spideyman: thanks. I'm going to burn live cd
[17:35] <visf> hi anybody know what is the force command for installation?
[17:35] <xkrchnav> and give it a try
[17:35] <Nith> soundray: I need to do it from a console
[17:35] <egoleo> and also my rythmbox says no playback error
[17:35] <eth01> visf: sudo apt-get -f
[17:35] <AncientPC> egoleo: What happens when you try playing the files with totem?
[17:35] <spideyman> xkrchnav, i think youll be impressed
[17:35] <AncientPC> egoleo: For almost all video codecs (if you're using the gstreamer backend) it will automatically play or prompt you to download the proper codecs.
[17:35] <visf> eht01: thanks
[17:36] <Nith> soundray: nvmm, do-release-upgrade seems to do the same thing
[17:36] <soundray> Nith: scroll down to 'Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers' then
[17:36] <Nith> soundray: thx
[17:36] <paynito> still YOur home directory is listed as '/home/danny' but it does not appear to exist
[17:36] <mattperry> need help with new vnc server since upgrade to 8.04...worked perfect on kubuntu 7.10...can't get to work on ubuntu 8.04
[17:36] <egoleo> but they are not doing that
[17:36] <eth01> mattperry: why have you changed from kubunto to ubuntu?
[17:36] <surplusxmas> AMD64 alternate install CD fails at "Select and install software". The CD's integrity is good. What could the problem be?
[17:37] <AncientPC> egoleo: If you haven't changed to xine (or don't know), try this: sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg -y
[17:37] <ibleed> AncientPC, what does the -y switch do ?
[17:37] <egoleo> ok
[17:38] <AncientPC> ibleed: Always say yes when it prompts you.
[17:38] <mattperry> my mom had trouble using kubuntu on her machine and I thought ubuntu would be a lot simpler for her, and so I'm trying to use it myself to get used to the difference so that I'll know how to answer any questions she might have etc
[17:38] <ibleed> thanks :)
[17:38] <rubystallion> I had to install a driver with apt-get to get my sound working, but I don't remember which one it was :( Now with hardy my sound doesn't work again. I have an HP Pavilion dv6550eg notebook. Any ideas?
[17:38] <soundray> surplusxmas: can you switch to other consoles? There should be one that logs errors. Switch with 'Alt-F2' and other F keys.
[17:38] <egoleo> i did that and it says the lastest installed
[17:38] <kesi> hi all.  i can't get my theme to stick.  It works after applying but won't apply to any new windows or after a restart.  seems to happen with every theme.
[17:38] <AncientPC> rubystallion: With that specific of a model / question, your best bet is to google it.
[17:38] <mattperry> eth01: my mom had trouble using kubuntu on her machine and I thought ubuntu would be a lot simpler for her, and so I'm trying to use it myself to get used to the difference so that I'll know how to answer any questions she might have etc
[17:38] <Sake> My advnaced nvidia drivers don't work. Anybody had this problem?
[17:39] <egoleo> still did not work
[17:39] <AncientPC> Sake: In what fashion do they not work?
[17:39] <dupin> manifest_ : I believe so
[17:39] <my_lap_is_hot> Sake: A lot of nvidia users have had only problems with Hardy.
[17:39] <paynito> is it a problem with 644 permissions after moving home with find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[17:39] <surplusxmas> soundray: thanks, I'll try that she
[17:39] <manifest_> holy shit linux is hard to learn :/
[17:39] <egoleo> even rythmbox Magnatune too sounds dont play
[17:40] <AncientPC> egoleo: type totem from the terminal, then go to movie and open a video file.  Let us know what output there is on the terminal.
[17:40] <spideyman> manifest google is your friend
[17:40] <egoleo> ok
[17:40] <ibleed> manifest_, its pretty easy actually.   btw, you shouldn't use foul language here its a family rated channel
[17:40] <AncientPC> egoleo: Wait, is it video and audio doesn't play, or just audio?
[17:40] <rubystallion> AncientPC: I tried, but I couldn't find any results. I know it was a page about installing linux on that notebook with detailed instructions about every step...
[17:40] <egoleo> all
[17:40] <dupin>      manifest_ : you can read                                                                                 http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[17:40] <egoleo> all dont play
[17:41] <Sake> by not work I mean I install them, reboot and my screen goes white with wierd colors
[17:41] <xkrchnav> spideyman puppy-2.17.1-nolzma-seamonkey-fulldrivers.iso this is version I need? with all drivers included, do I understand it correctly?
[17:41] <manifest_> i try to sudo fdisk -1 but it shows just the use of it
[17:41] <neeto> How do I search for a text string within any file on my computer?
[17:41] <soundray> manifest_: you probably want -l (L) not -1 (one)
[17:41] <svl> I've been trying to make the windows and contextmenu keys behave as under windows; I selected "alt is mapped tot he right win-key and super to menu" in keyboard layout, and then Mod4+R to "show the panel run application dialog". Unfortunately, hitting win-R did not show the run dialog, but instead seemed to "zoom" (?) the desktop, removing the top and bottom menu bars from view. Now the...
[17:42] <svl> ...mouse pointer is a couple of pixels "off", and I have no idea how to return/fix. :/
[17:42] <spideyman> xkrchnav, i think puppy is up to version 3 now but that will work
[17:42] <manifest_> soundray: DARN
[17:42] <xkrchnav> spideyman I can't find it : (
[17:42] <AncientPC> rubystallion: I couldn't find anything on Google either, the only thing left I can think of is to play around with System -> Pref -> Sound Settings and play around in there.
[17:42] <spideyman> xkrchnav, hold on
[17:42] <dupin> xkrchnav : lates is 3.0.1
[17:42] <manifest_> soundray: i spent 30 minutes trying to find out the reason
[17:42] <xkrchnav> spideyman sorry.. I'm blind..
[17:43] <xkrchnav> spideyman is it also with all drivers?
[17:43] <weaseal> what package is autopoint contained in?
[17:43] <soundray> manifest_: one thing that makes learning easier is to always read what's on the screen (like that usage message, for example...)
[17:43] <soopurman> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ appears to be down... can anyone here access it ?
[17:43] <xkrchnav> spideyman is there better way how to download than ftp? it is too slow
[17:43] <manifest_> they look so same :(
[17:44] <Hammer89> is there a command I can issue from terminal to export the audio of one ubuntu system to another?
[17:44] <spideyman> xkrchnav, puppy usually works right from the get go but you can install more through petget
[17:44] <Hammer89> (using hardy)
[17:44] <unop> soundray, i don't think it would be right to say "ubuntu has departed from the ~/.bash_profile tradition" there was never such a tradition to indicate a preference over ~/.bashrc, the two files serve different purposes. so unless ubuntu has heavily modified bash, ~/.bash_profile is sourced whenever you invoke a logon shell (even through gnome-session)
[17:44] <LjL> weaseal: i don't know, but http://packages.ubuntu.com allows you to search for it
[17:44] <spideyman> xkrchnav, http
[17:44] <soundray> unop: got you. Thanks!
[17:44] <Sirjames> how do i do the cube effect
[17:44] <Wo0dy> hello, is there any chance to set up network proxy only for galeon and not for all applications?
[17:45] <weaseal> LjL that address is 404ig
[17:45] <weaseal> *404ing
[17:45] <Pici> weaseal: Or if you have a system to check on, dpkg -S autopoint
[17:45] <LjL> Hammer89: uhm, i'm not aware of a transparent way (although ALSA can do wonders, if one knows how)... but check out NAS (the Network Audio System), main package "nas"
[17:45] <Wo0dy> Sirjames: if it's enabled, do ctrl-alt-mouse click - move mouse
[17:45] <soundray> unop: I'd still modify PATH in my .bashrc in most cases, though, since I want the setting in all shells -- not just "login" ones
[17:45] <fiyawerx> is anyone familiar with the virt-manager / qemu? Trying to add a new virtual system, but when i get to the 'assigning storage space' when I press forward, nothing happens
[17:45] <xkrchnav> spideyman and this I can do after running from livecd or before? uff.. it is not thing for a few minutes, is it? :(
[17:45] <fiyawerx> i can hit back and its not frozen, it just wont let me go forward
[17:45] <Hammer89> LjL: okay, thanks!
[17:46] <LjL> Hammer89: there is also an "audiooss" package that *tries* to provide transparent OSS sound emulation through NAS
[17:46] <weaseal> is there an alternative to packages.ubuntu.com ?
[17:46] <spideyman> xkrchnav, after is fine
[17:46] <LjL> !apt-file | weaseal
[17:46] <weaseal> thanks
[17:46] <LjL> weaseal: for files that you *already have installed*, you can just type "dpkg -S filename", too, to find out which package they belong to
[17:47] <spideyman> xkrchnav, it just wont save until you specify a pup save file
[17:47] <xkrchnav> spideyman ok... I curious about it :) 11 percent dowloaded
[17:47] <weaseal> LjL thanks yeah i meant for non installed
[17:48] <spideyman> xkrchnav, i run it from cd all the time and take it with me on a usb drive
[17:48] <alstreet> Hey, I have a Fujitsu T4220 running Hardy and I can't get the headphones to work
[17:48] <alstreet> headphones shows up in alsa mixer, but I can't adjust the volume for them
[17:49] <alstreet> as in they are stuck at 00 and don't show a mixer bar
[17:49] <spideyman> xkrchnav, ftp or alternate http ?
[17:49] <chris_420> okay well i will ttyl lateer ppeoples
[17:49] <Sirjames> i still can't get it
[17:49] <Sake> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/208718 <-- is the ubuntu repository eventually gonna have the proper drivers for this card?
[17:49] <svl> okay, found that - so, new question: where do I disable the accessibilty (?) option that makes win-R zoom in on the focused element?
[17:49] <xkrchnav> spideyman ftp... where I can find alternate http? is it faster?
[17:50] <spideyman> should be
[17:50] <melter> can anyone edit the documentation on the wiki?
[17:50] <alstreet> !list
[17:50] <spideyman> xkrchnav, http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/
[17:50] <alstreet> so,  anyone have any ideas?
[17:50] <davis_> i still can't get the cube effect
[17:51] <xkrchnav> spideyman this is even slower
[17:51] <alstreet> it'd be really cool if I could listen to my music without disturbing other people
[17:51] <Dvyjones> My bcm4306 card is set up using fwcutter, but i cant connect to my network, it doesnt even show up, any ideas why, and how to fix it?
[17:51] <Sirjames> how do u do the cube
[17:52] <spideyman> xkrchnav, really im getting 450 KB/sec
[17:52] <xkrchnav> spideyman how is that possible?? me only 40 kb...
[17:53] <spideyman> xkrchnav, ive already got 50%
[17:53] <Pupeno-G__> Hello.
[17:53] <kesi> sigh, I must have asked this 100 times and nobody ever replies. hi all.  i can't get my theme to stick.  It works after applying but won't apply to any new windows or after a restart.  seems to happen with every theme.
[17:53] <Dvyjones> My bcm4306 card is set up using fwcutter, but i cant connect to my network, it doesnt even show up, any ideas why, and how to fix it?
[17:53] <Pupeno-G__> How do you make the tasks appear in the calendar in Evolution? I can't find the option.
[17:53] <xkrchnav> spideyman hmm... me only 30 percent...
[17:53] <alstreet> gah, well back to Vista it is... it's always the small things that screw up Ubuntu for me... :(
[17:54] <spideyman> xkrchnav, atleast its only 100 megs
[17:54] <Dvyjones> What software is used for ubottu?
[17:54] <The_Spy> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 and installed K3b. When I go to Applications->Sound & Video there is no icon but in Preferences->Main Menu Kb3's launcher does have the icon. Any idea?? :(
[17:54] <xkrchnav> spideyman trying again http... but together with ftp... but this shouldn't be problem..
[17:54] <kesi> Dvyjones, if you're in HH go to System > Admin > HArdware Drivers and enable the B43 driver
[17:54] <xkrchnav> spideyman true :D
[17:54] <LjL> !info supybot | Dvyjones
[17:54] <Dvyjones> kesi: Its enabled
[17:54] <spideyman> xkrchnav, what r u getting from ftp
[17:54] <kesi> Dvyjones, does it show up as 'in use'?
[17:54] <xkrchnav> spideyman if you have broadband network you can send it to me it would be maybe faster :) it shows me 28 minutes left :(
[17:55] <xkrchnav> spideyman from ftp - puppy linux 3.01
[17:55] <Dvyjones> kesi: Yes, and with the box checked
[17:55] <ascii> anyone familiar with touchpad driver(userspace/kernel) programming, give me a msg..working on a driver for the new Macbook Air touchpad, and need some help..
[17:55] <spideyman> xkrchnav, I have 5 mins to go
[17:56] <spideyman> xkrchnav, how would you like me to send it
[17:56] <manifest_> my head is about to explode
[17:56] <davis_> i still can't do the cube
[17:56] <davis_> any ideas
[17:56] <xkrchnav> spideyman I don't know maybe via irc it would be fast enough :)
[17:56] <Dvyjones> My bcm4306 card is set up using fwcutter (driver is enabled), but i cant connect to my network, it doesnt even show up, any ideas why, and how to fix it?
[17:56] <soundray> manifest_: wrap a wet towel around it, quickly
[17:57] <manifest_> soundray: too late
[17:57] <soundray> manifest_: dang. Have you got someone to pick up the pieces?
[17:57] <Dvyjones> anybody?
[17:58] <spideyman> xkrchnav, lets see how far you are when i finish the download
[17:58] <manifest_> nah
[17:58] <jsh_> << /msg ubottu etiquette >>
[17:58] <xkrchnav> spideyman ok :)
[17:58] <spideyman> xkrchnav, still 4 mins left speed dropped to 150 kb
[17:58] <paynito> i booted off the livecd, i don't see my hdd in /media, how do i mount my hdd?
[17:59] <soundray> paynito: 'sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt'
[17:59] <xkrchnav> spideyman my speed increased to 150 :) so you stealed my speed!!
[17:59] <xkrchnav> spideyman back to 40 :(
[17:59] <spideyman> xkrchnav, lol
[17:59] <mohbana_> how do i refresh the font daatabase?
[18:00] <Dvyjones> My bcm4306 card is set up using fwcutter (driver is enabled), but i cant connect to my network, it doesnt even show up, any ideas why, and how to fix it?
[18:00] <Dvyjones> nvm, it worked now :D
[18:00] <Dvyjones> Only 1MBPS though
[18:00] <bruenig> mohbana_: fc-cache
[18:00] <kesi> hi all.  i can't get my theme to stick.  It works after applying but won't apply to any new windows or after a restart.  seems to happen with every theme.
[18:01] <weaseal> So I tried apt-file but no dice...
 Throw it away?
 You can buy a machine orders of magnitude more powerful at walmart for $299
[18:01] <weaseal> oops
[18:01] <FloodBot2> weaseal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:01] <manifest_> anyone speak finnish here?
[18:01] <bigtimer121> anyone have the command so my computer doesn't do a system check everytime it boots up???
[18:01] <bcardarella> I'm having a problem where I can ping out to various domain names but Fire Fox cannot connect to anything.
[18:01] <LjL> !fi | manifest_
[18:01] <Dvyjones> How do i speed up bcm4306 from 1MBPS to somethin else?
[18:01] <vox> why isnt vmware server in the repos any more?
[18:01] <[DR]TNT_Boom> hello
[18:01] <manifest_> !fi
[18:02] <weaseal> LjL: I ran that apt-file update thing and all it spits out is "Can't get http://md.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Contents-i386.gz"
[18:02] <LjL> manifest_, read above.
[18:02] <Twim4> how can i fix this error "E: Package linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic has no installation candidate"
[18:02] <LjL> weaseal, i've heard rumors that apt-file might be broken in Hardy. perhaps it is
[18:02] <weaseal> sad
[18:02]  * weaseal cries
[18:02] <LjL> weaseal: an alternative is auto-apt
[18:02] <[DR]TNT_Boom> so we cant use apt in handy?
[18:02] <LjL> weaseal: perhaps that will work, although (at least by default) it doesn't find *all* files
[18:02] <LjL> [DR]TNT_Boom: ?!
[18:02] <fr500> weltall: well a stock ubuntu setup did the trick
[18:02] <[DR]TNT_Boom> idk Oo
[18:03] <fr500> got sound in everything
[18:03] <LjL> !apt
[18:03] <fr500> and pulseaudio is disabled dunno why
[18:03] <LjL> [DR]TNT_Boom: if you couldn't use APT, you couldn't use Ubuntu at all
[18:03] <weltall> yes i started from a clean setup
[18:03] <debasys> i burned a CD of Hardy which came out faulty, so i am doing a dist upgrade now. Now after upgrade i have to install there 2 wifi drivers to use net connection. Earlier i have backup net connection which made downloading drivers easy, but now i have only this wifi connection. So i want to download them before hand , i noticed Restricted Driver Manager downloaded these two as [1] bcm43xx-fwcutter and [2] http://xeve.de/down/wl_apsta.o
[18:03] <weltall> hum no it wasn't for me
[18:03] <[DR]TNT_Boom> idk i have lots of problems setuping it up
[18:03] <debasys> the 2nd one i downloaded, i just need the 1st one
[18:03] <dupin> Twim4 : system<admin<software sources<check all under Ubuntu software and updates tab.Reload.
[18:03] <[DR]TNT_Boom> installing*
[18:03] <weltall> anyway i've still the audio delay of 1 seconds which makes it almost unusable
[18:03] <fr500> really
[18:03] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it wont do anything
[18:03] <mohbana_> bruenig: thnks
[18:03] <[DR]TNT_Boom> =(
[18:03] <bruenig> indeed
[18:04] <paynito> if i comment out the /home line in fstab, then sudo mv /mnt/home_backup /mnt/home reboot cross fingers?
[18:04] <bcardarella> nevermind... I had FF in offline mode :p
[18:04] <[DR]TNT_Boom> can someone help me installing ubuntu?
[18:04] <soundray> paynito: should work
[18:04] <bruenig> paynito: don't cross fingers, this is a very exact process here. There is no guessing as to how it works
[18:04] <[DR]TNT_Boom> !apt-get
[18:04] <spideyman> xkrchnav, 2 mins
[18:04] <[DR]TNT_Boom> ops
[18:04] <helloworld> [DR]TNT_Boom: yep
[18:05] <weaseal> Yea LjL apt-file is deff broken 'cause this auto-apt program downloads that exact same file from a different directory without fail
[18:05] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it always fails for me
[18:05] <[DR]TNT_Boom> idk why
[18:05] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i tried installing the desktop package but it wont load some why
[18:05] <fr500> should pulseaudio be enabled by default on a stock installation?
[18:05] <[DR]TNT_Boom> and it wont give any error
[18:06] <fr500> i installed from alternate cd
[18:06] <[DR]TNT_Boom> how can i get iso image during setup?
[18:06] <xkrchnav> spideyman for me 11
[18:06] <[DR]TNT_Boom> spideyman = ubuntu?
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> fr500: which cd you install from is irrelevant, i'm prett sure its part of the default install(I have it, and don't ever recall installing it)
[18:07] <[DR]TNT_Boom> !spideyman
[18:07] <fr500> IndyGunFreak: ok
[18:07] <weaseal> !auto-apt
[18:07] <weaseal> :(
[18:07] <Pici> [DR]TNT_Boom: spideyman is a user in this channel
[18:07] <spideyman> [DR]TNT_Boom, what?
[18:07] <[DR]TNT_Boom> lol
[18:07] <[DR]TNT_Boom> sorry
[18:07] <IndyGunFreak> fr500: if you doubt its installed, search synaptic for "pulseaudio" and see if it shows installed
[18:07] <[DR]TNT_Boom> im a dumbin everything here
[18:07] <[DR]TNT_Boom> bumb
[18:08] <[DR]TNT_Boom> dumb
[18:08] <fr500> IndyGunFreak: it's installed just not enabled it seems
[18:08] <debasys> where can i download this thing 'bcm43xx-fwcutter' ?
[18:08] <debasys> its needed to install my wifi driver
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> fr500: really don't know.
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> !broadcom | debasys
[18:08] <sbga420> I tried to install ubuntu from cd and when it loaded up, and I clicked on install it just froze up, sounded like it was reading the cd but I waited for a while and nothing happened... should I give it more time
[18:08] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, gee... thanks :)
[18:08] <bobbob1016> I've been reading on the forums that the fix for the random lockups (in Hardy) is to upgrade to the 2.6.25 kernel, is this still the case?  If so can anyone point me to a tutorial?
[18:08] <dupin>          weaseal :                                   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoApt
[18:08] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: np.. :)
[18:08] <paynito> why did that not work?
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: but i thought hardy didn't require the broadcom driver
[18:10] <tommy> hi
[18:10] <spideyman> xkrchnav, r u getting the send request
[18:10] <dupin> sbga420 : check CD integrity
[18:10] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, don't know, upgrading right now, so thought i will download them before hand
[18:10] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: yeah, i thought i was right, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> the driver is in the kernel now
[18:11] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, my only net connection is this wifi, so if this does not work u know
[18:11] <[DR]TNT_Boom> if cd integirity faild what can i do about it?
[18:11] <xkrchnav> spideyman send it again please... it was in ignore list..
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: yeah, understood.
[18:11] <sbga420> ok
[18:11] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: why not test it on a live cd?
[18:11] <Gilou> hi, I have a problem on a friend's laptop, it's a Sony VAIO, I can set the brightness using /sys/class/backlight/sony/brightness, but the Fn Keys won't change it directly. How to have them work again?
[18:11] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, oh wow this thing is included....bah!! great thing
[18:12] <paynito> ok at least i'm in recovery mode and not using the cd
[18:12] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: yea.
[18:12] <xkrchnav> spideyman it doesn't start :(
[18:12] <LinuxNIT-II> after my upgrade to hardy, xchat wont open links withi alt+click > open in Browser. how do i fix this?
[18:12] <[DR]TNT_Boom> if cd integirity faild what can i do about it?
[18:12] <xkrchnav> spideyman no matter.. my download is almost finished
[18:12] <dupin> [DR]TNT_Boom : If you still have iso download same version wiht torrent and point download to th folder where existing iso is.Torrent will just check for corrupted files and replace them with good ones.
[18:13] <spideyman> xkrchnav, you will have it yourself by the time i send it to you now lol
[18:13] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i dont have
[18:13] <[DR]TNT_Boom> =(
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: just make sure you know your protocol, password, network name, etc.. and you should be gold
[18:13] <ArthurArchnix> I've got firefox-3 on gutsy, I've never had firefox two installed. I can't get flash to work. flashplugin-nonfree is installed. I can't install the flash mozplugin because that's for FF2. Any good links, or someone solved this?
[18:13] <[DR]TNT_Boom> and my drive is formated
[18:13] <[DR]TNT_Boom> im kinda stuck
[18:13] <[DR]TNT_Boom> anyway to get it?
[18:13] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, yes of course  , right now using that connection on gutsy :)
[18:13] <xkrchnav> spideyman 5 minutes
[18:13] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: are you using 64bit?
[18:13] <dupin> [DR]TNT_Boom :download alternate CD with torent .
[18:14] <[DR]TNT_Boom> where can i get torrent?
[18:14] <[DR]TNT_Boom> or client
[18:14] <spideyman> xkrchnav, sry you gotta wait
[18:14] <o0Chris0o> how do I load kde theme manager?
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> from ubuntu.com?
[18:14] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i cant surf
[18:14]  * debasys says , ubuntu is making me smarter day by day ;)
[18:14] <xkrchnav> spideyman no problem
[18:14] <fr500> weltall: bah pulse is working for gstreamer alsa for sdl and such, all good, just no mixing
[18:14] <fr500> but whatever
[18:14]  * IndyGunFreak has seeded the alternate torrent for about 6gigs.. :)
[18:14] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: No
[18:14] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: so you were able to install it although it was corrupted?
[18:14] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: then something else is the prob, flash works fine for e on FF3
[18:15] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: are you sure you installed it right?
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> just the base system
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> the rest doent work
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> altho i had to install a diff kernel
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> the regular one didnt work
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> all tho*
[18:15] <paynito> now instead of /home/danny on sda6 (where it was before i tried to move home to /dev/sda1) i have /home/home_backup/danny  do i need a long command to move my home so i don't mess up permissions or something?
[18:15] <IndyGunFreak> a different kernel?
[18:15] <paule> you don't have access to another computer with a cd burner?
[18:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> yeah
[18:15] <[DR]TNT_Boom> image 2.6 something
[18:15] <paule> (and internet) [DR]TNT_Boom
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> internet works
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> but i dont have any
[18:16] <astronut> when i run the installer on a disk with several windows partitions, why do i not see a guided resize?
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> hmm
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> browsers
[18:16] <FloodBot2> [DR]TNT_Boom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <astronut> is a manual resize non-destructive?
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> what?
[18:16] <IndyGunFreak> [DR]TNT_Boom: you dolt, stop hitting enter every 3 words
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> oh
[18:16] <bazhang> astronut: can you choose largest contiguous space?
[18:16] <[DR]TNT_Boom> internet works but i dont have any browsers to use
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> [DR]TNT_Boom: are you on the live cd now?
[18:17] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: Well, I've removed it, xulruner, and the flashplugin and reinstalled it all. No go. Have you installed and used firefox2 on your system before installing 3?
[18:17] <astronut> bazhang: no free space
[18:17] <astronut> need to resize
[18:17] <[DR]TNT_Boom> no on friends house
[18:17] <azuk1> I have 500 zip files I need to unzip.. but NOT in each there seperate dir.. all in the same dir.. how to batch do that?
[18:17] <astronut> is a manaul edit partiion -> resize nondestructive?
[18:17] <[DR]TNT_Boom> at friends*
[18:17] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: no,. i'm using 3.. and it works fine
[18:17] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: which version are you trying to install?
[18:17] <[DR]TNT_Boom> hardy
[18:17] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it faild alot of time
[18:17] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: On Gutsy, right?
[18:18] <debasys> see ya all after i dist upgrade to hardy :)
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: no, hardy
[18:18] <unop> azuk1, if you have unzip installed. this should do.  unzip '*.zip'
[18:18] <[DR]TNT_Boom> and gnome wont load up
[18:18] <azuk1> nope
[18:18] <azuk1> that doesn work
[18:18] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: Ah... that's the problem there then.
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> debasys: good luck
[18:18] <bazhang> astronut: multiple windows installs? not sure about guided resize being available there
[18:18] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: I'm on Gutsy.
[18:18] <debasys> IndyGunFreak, :)
[18:18] <unop> azuk1, and how does that not work?
[18:18] <azuk1> unop: filename not matched
[18:18] <azuk1> on all the zips
[18:18] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: probably... the beta was horrible under Gutsy, but seems pretty stable under Hardy
[18:18] <astronut> not installs, just partitions
[18:18] <dupin>       DR]TNT_Boom :                     http://ubuntu.rave.org/hardy/
[18:18] <Girltalk> ?
[18:18] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: you can do a "wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso" to download the file
[18:18] <astronut> bazhang: is the manual partion -> edit partition _> new size non destructive?
[18:18] <genii> azuk1: Thats not really a tech support issue. They might give you some one liner script in ##bash , possibly
[18:19] <Pelo> PriceChild, are you available ?
[18:19] <unop> azuk1, try this.  for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done
[18:19]  * genii hands unop a coffee
[18:19] <bigtimer121> restart command???
[18:19] <[DR]TNT_Boom> also im having a huge problem with my internet its SLOW somewhy and i get alot of pacekt loss
[18:19]  * unop thanks genii .. but he doesn't drink coffee
[18:19] <[DR]TNT_Boom> is there anyway to fix it?
[18:20] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: But have you tried doing "sudo apt-get update" ?
[18:20]  * soundray snatches the coffee from unip
[18:20] <genii> unop: "beverage of your choice" then :)
[18:20] <[DR]TNT_Boom> yeah but no sourcesz
[18:20] <soundray> *unop sry
[18:20] <xkrchnav> spideyman done... burning :)
[18:20] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - ive upgraded to hardy and my dvd drive no longer exists - any ideas?
[18:20] <unop> genii, lemon tea if you please :)
[18:20] <soundray> bigtimer121: sudo reboot
[18:20] <bazhang> astronut: let me check
[18:20] <DanaG> Argh, I just went to quit Firefox, and it took a full 60 seconds to quit.
[18:20] <DanaG> fail!
[18:21] <Super_Cat_Frog> k3b cant see it
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: no longer exists?
[18:21] <azuk1> unop: that doesn work.. unzip * also doesn
[18:21] <xkrchnav> spideyman and how can I use this http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/bttv.html in live installation (not installation indeed)
[18:21] <DanaG> Running an update should NOT make every other disk-using thing grind to a halt!
[18:21] <DanaG> Argh, and my ACPI hotkeys break on power state changes.
[18:21] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: if you put a disk in your dvd drive, and go to Places, Computer, is your dvd drive there?
[18:21] <unop> azuk1, wow, you got some serious issues with unzip there .. can you paste (in a !pastebin) an excerpt of what you see?
[18:21] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: i'll see if i can find one
[18:21] <sbga420> my processor is a amd athlon 64 so does that mean i need to download the 64 bit version of linux
[18:22]  * genii slides unop that lemon tea
[18:22] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: i'm trying to use it to burn the hardy iso for my laptop
[18:22] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: anything really, blank disk, dvd movie, whatever
[18:22] <unop> ta genii :)
[18:22] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: ah, ok
[18:22] <soundray> sbga420: no, the 32bit version will work, too
[18:22] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i tried apt-get update but it fails because of slow network and also no sources
[18:22] <Laser87> sbga420: No - you also can use the 32 -Version
[18:22] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: once its in, look under places/computer, and see if it shows as available there.
[18:22] <sbga420> ok
[18:22] <ibleed> sbga420, using 32 bit for you would give you more problem free usage of flash and java.  with 64 bit it's more of a chore if it ever works
[18:22] <ArthurArchnix> !flash
[18:22] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i dont know why my net is so slow
[18:22] <paule> anyone have the main repository address and the command to add a repository to apt?
[18:23] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: the drive wont eject with the hardware button, nor with sudo eject. its not a hardware fault as it worked under fiesty a few days ago
[18:23] <paule> For Hardy 8.04
[18:23] <bobbob1016> I'm experiencing random lockups, some people on the forums are saying that after upgrading to kernel 2.6.25, they don't have the lockups anymore.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial/how-to to get 2.6.25 installed?
[18:23] <iclebyte> why is there no /dev/ttyUSB0 entry in gutsy?
[18:23] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: its like its cut power to the drive
[18:23] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: that sounds like a hardware issue.
[18:23] <azuk1> unop: http://pastebin.com/m3f3ec23e
[18:23] <dupin> [DR]TNT_Boom cat /etc/apt/sources.list  and paste it here
[18:23] <IndyGunFreak> possibly the power cable has came loose
[18:23] <[DR]TNT_Boom> im not on that computer
[18:23] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: maybe, i'll gander
[18:23] <soundray> iclebyte: it should be created if you plug in a USB serial device
[18:24] <Vlet> paule: us.archive.ubuntu.com is the main repo, and to add one, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:24] <Pupen1> How do
[18:24] <unop> azuk1, have you tried quoting the glob you pass to unzip .. because unzip can do the globs itself. i.e.  unzip '*'  # not unzip *
[18:24] <LjL> Vlet, paule: no, archive.ubuntu.com is the main repo
[18:24] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: read Vlets answer to me and Vlet, thank you a lot
[18:24] <lackli> i have a website that i go to.  i sign-in, and then it goes to a "Flash Detect" page, where it is supposed to transition to the next page.  i have swfdec, and it just remains on the flash detect page.  how can i fix this?  amd64-user
[18:24] <ibleed> paule, you add repositories by editing /etc/apt/sources.list.  if you go to system-administration-software sources, you can select the server you wish to use for non 3rd party updates
[18:24] <Vlet> LjL: d'oh :)
[18:24] <unop> azuk1, and what is  unzip ¨$i¨ ?? :)  that's not what i gave you :)
[18:24] <dupin> [DR]TNT_Boom  : the when you are system>admin>software sources>check all under Ubuntu software and updates tab and reload
[18:25] <iclebyte> soundray, i'm connecting a Matrix Orbital USB serial device, i get "usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 13; usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" in /var/log/messages but no reference to a /dev device node..
[18:25] <azuk1> unop: no that what you are saying won work... unzip adds .zip to the extensions if not entered
[18:25] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: rebooting
[18:25] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[18:25] <azuk1> unop so with $i... will look for $i.zip
[18:25] <[DR]TNT_Boom> ok
[18:25] <jsh_> Hardy compiz-fusion is behaving poorly on one of my boxes.  (Gutsy was fine.)  It has a Radeon 9550.  Suggestions?  It's very jerky and slow.
[18:25] <unop> azuk1, try this. as-is because "$i" means nothing unless it is declared.     for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done
[18:25] <angasule> jsh_: is direct rendering working?
[18:25] <Pupen1> How do I make the task appear/disappear from the calendar view of Evolution?
[18:26] <dupin> unop  :  sudo apt-get install p7zip p7zip-full  after that right click on file and unpack here
[18:26] <[DR]TNT_Boom> btw how can i get a torrent client and the torrent file?"
[18:26] <jsh_> Don't know.  How do I tell?
[18:26] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: LjL said: no, archive.ubuntu.com is the main repo, hope you got it
[18:26] <Scunizi> Anyone running VMWare server have an issue recompiling the modules after upgrading to HH. Did you get it to work and how?
[18:26] <Vlet> xkrchnav: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaHauppauge
[18:26] <tech0007> jsh_: glxinfo | grep render
[18:26] <soundray> iclebyte: even though it recognizes the USB device, it may not be loading a driver for it. Run 'lsusb' to determine the USB ID and do a web search on that.
[18:26] <unop> dupin, forward that to azuk1 - i'm not the one with an unzip issue :) plus that's not really needed, he has unzip already
[18:26] <sase> vinoMK
[18:26] <LjL> it doesn't really much matter, one should normally use the repos closest to them
[18:26] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it dosent works because my network configure worngly
[18:27] <[DR]TNT_Boom> its somewhy slows never had it under windwos Oo
[18:27] <azuk1> unop: so you mean: unzip *.z$ip ... or unzip ¨$i¨ ... ?
[18:27] <dupin> unop :sorry,my mistake
[18:27] <ibleed> i remember there was a compression format that was going to be integrated into ubiquity that would give it the advantage of higher compression than the one it had previously used.  anyone know what that is ?
[18:27] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it always says faild for me when using apt-get update.
[18:27] <xkrchnav> Vlet thanks for that :) So maybe also my card is supported, isn't it?
[18:27] <iclebyte> soundray, good idea. thanks
[18:28] <jsh_> tech0007:, angasule: no, no direct rendering
[18:28] <unop> azuk1, this is one whole command.    for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i"; done
[18:28] <azuk1> oh.. sorry!.. misunderstood
[18:28] <bigtimer121> in my partitions my /Dev/sda1 it is flagged (boot)
[18:28] <azuk1> :D
[18:28] <iclebyte> nothing.. =(
[18:28] <tmapj> could anyone tell me how to restore ubuntu to original installation settings?
[18:28] <azuk1> yea
[18:28] <Vlet> xkrchnav: looks like with tweaks, it might be
[18:28] <tech0007> jsh_: so that's why..
[18:28] <xkrchnav> Vlet there are photos
[18:28] <unop> azuk1,  plus you didn't quote * as i said .. that really should have worked
[18:28] <xkrchnav> Vlet http://4um.overclocking.cz/showthread.php?t=42270
[18:28] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: do this: sudo apt-get install transmission transmission-cli
[18:28] <angasule> jsh_: well, that means you don't have 3D acceleration, so compiz will be slow
[18:28] <xkrchnav> Vlet but I'm not very familiar with tweaks
[18:28] <mortena76876> Can`t find the "external amplifier" in the alsamixer. any suggestions?
[18:29] <[DR]TNT_Boom> what will it do?
[18:29] <IndyGunFreak> paule: its useless helping him, he's asking all these questions, and he's not even on the pc he needs help with, nor is he anywhere near it
[18:29] <bigtimer121>  in my partitions my /Dev/sda1 it is flagged (boot) is it supposed to be flagged???
[18:29] <arcsky> Ist hard to join windows active directory from ubuntu ?
[18:29] <jsh_> angasule:, tech0007: it worked on gutsy.  Is there something I can do to turn this back on?
[18:29] <tech0007> jsh_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installation_of_both_ATi_and_nVidia_Graphics_drivers
[18:29] <[DR]TNT_Boom> btw can i get bash based irc client?
[18:30] <lousygarua> [DR]TNT_Boom, yes
[18:30] <soundray> bigtimer121: it doesn't make a difference if you're using grub for booting.
[18:30] <unop> arcsky, slightly harder than joining a windows machine to AD. but not difficult
[18:30] <[DR]TNT_Boom> how?
[18:30] <jsh_> tech0007: thanks.  I'll take a look
[18:30] <tmapj> could someone tell me what the difference is between KDE and ubuntu?
[18:30] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: sudo is the comand to gain root rights temporarily, apt-get install is the command for installing applications and the following words are the names for a torrent client that can be run from the command line / terminal and its interface.
[18:30] <azuk1> unop: http://pastebin.com/m23bbc8d0
[18:30] <lousygarua> tmapj, ubuntu uses the GNOME desktop enviorment, kubuntu uses KDE
[18:30] <bigtimer121> soundray: k, thanks
[18:30] <arcsky> unop: can you recomand me a nice guide for it?
[18:30] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: basically just the GUI.. Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses gnome.. google screenshots for Kubuntu and Ubuntu, and you'll see the difference
[18:30] <lousygarua> tmapj, if in doubt, i suggest ubuntu
[18:30] <azuk1> unop: and that repeated a few hundred times ofcoursse
[18:30] <tech0007> tmapj: KDE is a desktop environment...ubuntu is a debian-based linux
[18:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: output from dmesg: http://rafb.net/p/X5RhIa99.html
[18:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: (cd drive problem)
[18:30] <soundray> tmapj: Ubuntu is a Linux distribution. KDE is a desktop environment.
[18:30] <[DR]TNT_Boom> ok thanks alot paule
[18:31] <xkrchnav> spideyman booting from the CD :) I'm looking forward...
[18:31] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: do this: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:31] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: yeah, i didn't think that sounded like an ubuntu prob
[18:31] <tmapj> Hey but there are some programs that only work in KDE
[18:31] <unop> azuk1, i bet you got the command wrong .. can you include that in the paste too?
[18:31] <paule> [DR]TNT_Boom: IRCssi is a terminal based irc client
[18:31] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: no there's not
[18:31] <unop> arcsky, errm, hold on
[18:31] <tmapj> there isn't?
[18:31] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: drive would open when booting, but now ive tried to run k3b, it wont open
[18:31] <soundray> tmapj: Ubuntu uses gnome as its desktop environment. All KDE applications work in gnome, too.
[18:31] <tech0007> tmapj: can u elaborate?
[18:32] <Super_Cat_Frog> [  273.480855] scsi 3:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
[18:32] <hydrogen> I'll solve your problem
[18:32] <hydrogen> use kde
[18:32] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: no.. a kde program will work on gnome, and vice versa, provided you install all the required libraries(and synaptic will do that for you)
[18:32] <hydrogen> you'll be happy
[18:32] <paule> tmapj: you can get all the libraries to run KDE programs in gnome
[18:32] <soundray> tmapj: if you still think you want KDE rather than gnome, look at kubuntu
[18:32] <soundray> !kubuntu | tmapj
[18:32] <IndyGunFreak> hydrogen: lol, you must be kidding.. i'd recommend staying as far away from KDE as possible
[18:32] <tmapj> well im using xubuntu, does that make any difference?
[18:32] <azuk1> unop: http://pastebin.com/m58f640e2
[18:32] <[DR]TNT_Boom> how can i fix my network configurtion tho?
[18:32] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: what is it you want to do?
[18:32] <hydrogen> IndyGunFreak: yes, yes, we already know your not that correct
[18:33] <tmapj> i just want my bluetooth mouse and headset to work
[18:33] <tech0007> tmapj: kde apps will work in xubuntu, as long as you installed the required libs
[18:33] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: that doesn't make any sense, i really don't know.
[18:33] <IndyGunFreak> tech0007: for that matter, kde apps will work in fluxbuntu, if you install the required libs.
[18:33] <[DR]TNT_Boom> dhcpcleint takes a long to work
[18:33] <xkrchnav> spideyman but it is booting quite long :(
[18:33] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: it doesn't. i know there was a problem with ubuntu's sata cd drive support in the beta, which i installed (upgraded to), but it hasn't gone away (didn't test under beta)
[18:33] <soundray> tmapj: what specific KDE app do you need?
[18:33] <[DR]TNT_Boom> anything network related takes a long to work
[18:33] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: ok, why do you need a kde app to do that?
[18:33] <tmapj> tech0007: are the req. libraries included in xubuntu?
[18:34] <tmapj> i dont know
[18:34] <tmapj> indygunfreak: i dont know im lost
[18:34] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: point is, even if the drive didn't work under Ubuntu, you should be able to at least open the drive...
[18:34] <tech0007> tmapj: if you do apt-get install [kdeapp], it will prompt you to install needed libs
[18:34] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: you could disconnect the sata cable, and as long as the power cable is hooked up, you should be able to open the drive
[18:34] <[DR]TNT_Boom> transmission-cli where is the torrent file?
[18:34] <IndyGunFreak> tmapj: so you have no idea what it is you're tryign to do?
[18:34] <crazyindian> i thought that the bluetooth drivers came preinstalled
[18:35] <soundray> tmapj: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[18:35] <unop> azuk1, hmm, strange. what does this return? ls -l *.zip
[18:35] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: and for what its worth, my sata dvd drive works fine w/ hardy
[18:35] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: its probably locked by k3b, then not unlocked as the device didn't respond
[18:35] <tmapj> how do i get back to original installation settings? i think i screwed up the bluetooth settings file
[18:35] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/96826 - bug from the beta, going to try irqpoll kernel argument
[18:36] <azuk1> unop: if itś too much pain.. I could install winrar in wine... that works..
[18:36] <IndyGunFreak> Super_Cat_Frog: i doubt it, but if you say so
[18:36] <azuk1> unop: that ls -l *.zip gives a huge list of zip
[18:36] <azuk1> s
[18:36] <crazyindian> lol tmapj should have made a back up
[18:36] <azuk1> :)
[18:36] <soundray> tmapj: you'd have to reinstall from scratch. Do look at that help page furst.
[18:36] <soundray> *first
[18:36]  * soundray has thick fingers today
[18:36] <tmapj> there's no way i can restore the original file?
[18:36] <unop> azuk1, ok, paste a few lines from that.
[18:37] <azuk1> unop: you want the chmod info?
[18:37] <HSNews> how to disable eth0 or eth1? and how to recognize which network device on eth1 and eth0 ? I mean by Vendor
[18:37] <funkyHat> tmapj, yeah there should be, try errrr sudo dpkg-reconfigure bluez-utils
[18:37] <azuk1> unop : itś for all of them: -rwxrwxrwx
[18:37] <tech0007> tmapj: try to reinstall bluetooth and use --purge in apt-get
[18:37] <soundray> tmapj: some editors create a backup with ~ appended to the filename
[18:37] <unop> azuk1, well, pretty much everything ls -l returns .. not just permissions
[18:37] <azuk1> k
[18:37] <funkyHat> tmapj, not sure if that is the right package or not
[18:38] <soundray> tmapj: which file do you think you've messed up?
[18:38] <azuk1> unop: http://pastebin.com/m5bba6e05
[18:38] <HSNews> how to disable eth0 or eth1? and how to recognize which network device on eth1 and eth0 ? I mean by Vendor
[18:38] <tmapj> the blue tooth settings file
[18:38] <tmapj> @ soundray
[18:38] <dan> I've just switched to ubuntu, but i didnt think about my ipod. is there anyway to get my music onto it without itunes?
[18:38] <soundray> tmapj: what's it called?
[18:38] <subzero2000_> Sorry if this as discussed previously, but is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ off the air?
[18:38] <cousin_luigi> hello
[18:38] <HSNews> and how to edit GRUB menu?
[18:38] <tmapj> im not sure what its called
[18:38] <soundray> subzero2000_: yes, can't access it here, either
[18:39] <tmapj> hold on ill take a look
[18:39] <cousin_luigi> why has j2re1.4 been removed from hardy?
[18:39] <subzero2000_> soundray: Thanks.
[18:39] <HSNews> in 8.04 Startup Manager disabled
[18:39] <soundray> tmapj: well, what did you do to edit it?
[18:39] <tmapj> i accidentally typed some letters in and i dont know where i did it
[18:39] <dan> does anyone here have an ipod working with linux?
[18:40] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: coz there's sun-java6-jre? not sure
[18:40] <soundray> tmapj: I see. You're the adventurous type.
[18:40] <funkyHat> dan, by working with linux, do you mean being able to add/remove music etc. from linux, or with linux installed on it?
[18:40] <unop> azuk1, try this. unzip \*.zip
[18:40] <soundray> cousin_luigi: I wish I knew. It was the best way to get a Java applet in 64bit...
[18:40] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: some applet I need doesn't work properly with that
[18:41] <soundray> cousin_luigi: s/applet/plugin/
[18:41] <dan> funkyHat, just managing my music on my ipod :) theres no itunes port for linux
[18:41] <nelydajo> Does anyone know of a tool to manage (add/edit/delete/import) multiple (100s) of users in a school lab environment?
[18:41] <tmapj> sudo cp /etc/default/bluetooth /etc/default/bluetooth_backup
[18:41] <kaminski-ltsp-br> who can help me with a broadcom wireless card in 8.04?
[18:41] <azuk1> unop: yes.. that worked.. thanks.. so you have to explain the locations a bit more :)
[18:41] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: what applets if i may ask
[18:41] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I'm going to try installing the old version
[18:41] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: volano chat
[18:41] <Lava> hello
[18:41] <apicio> Thanks LjL, it worked ^_^
[18:41] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: is it web-based?
[18:42] <funkyHat> dan, in that case yes :) rhythmbox can manage any iPod (although I don't know about touch)
[18:42] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: http://www.volano.com/chat.html
[18:42] <tmapj> are there any apps that i can use to connect to my bluetooth mouse?
[18:42] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: yes, gadgets don't work
[18:42] <Lava> could someone tell me how to burn the iso for hardy heron to a blank cd in gutsy?
[18:42] <dan> funkyHat, im not sure, but i think ipods only play .mp4, which itunes converted automatically, so im wondering how thats going to work out
[18:42] <astronut> baklava-: any luck?
[18:42] <soundray> cousin_luigi: remember the actual plugin is in a separate .deb
[18:42] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: only with j2re1.4
[18:42] <BasioDeJudas> does ubuntu work right out of the box?
[18:42] <kaminski-ltsp-br> who can help me with a broadcom wireless card in 8.04?
[18:42] <funkyHat> dan, no iPods support mp3 as well
[18:42] <Girltalk> BasioDeJudas: that depends on a lot of things
[18:42] <weaseal> lol depends on what you mean by work
[18:42] <BasioDeJudas> wow...
[18:42] <dan> funkyHat, and now i love being on linux just that much more haha!
[18:42] <cousin_luigi> soundray: yes...
[18:42] <|neko|> sorry, anyone here knows how to set static IP addresses and static DNS servers in Ubuntu???
[18:42] <cousin_luigi> soundray: what do you mean?
[18:43] <unop> azuk1, well, what is happening is with "unzip *.zip" the shell compiles a commmand like "unzip a.zip b.zip c.zip ..." which ultimately means unzip is trying to all the other files from a.zip
[18:43] <dan> funkyHat, thanks for the hand!!
[18:43] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: please let me know if you find a way to make gadgets work
[18:43] <unop> azuk1, passing the wildcard as is to unzip forces unzip to do the globbing
[18:43] <soundray> cousin_luigi: there is a package j2re1.4, and there is j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin -- you will want both.
[18:43] <kaminski-ltsp-br> who can help me with a broadcom wireless card in 8.04?
[18:43] <cousin_luigi> soundray: can't find those on hardy
[18:44] <Lava> could someone tell me how to burn the iso for hardy heron to a blank cd in gutsy? i can't seem to chose how to burn it
[18:44] <azuk1> unop: well thanks...
[18:44] <BasioDeJudas> i mean if i choose a video player will it work right away?
[18:44] <soundray> cousin_luigi: I know. You have to get them manually from archives.ubuntu.com
[18:44] <gamerguy2k8> hmmmm today isnt my day
[18:44] <erUSUL> Lava: right click on it chooose writte to cd
[18:44] <funkyHat> dan, :) if you're using an iPod Classic or nano 3G you might have to do a tiny bit of fiddling to make it work, but only once, and all the older ones just work (also rhythmbox will transcode any ogg or other formats to mp3 if you put them on your iPod)
[18:44] <Girltalk> Lava: in gutsy, literally, right click, and write to CD
[18:44] <gamerguy2k8> my sound doesnt work in ubuntu but the wifi is fine, and the wifi doesnt work properly in suse but the sound works fine
[18:44] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I didn't want to pollute my hardy installation with unofficial sw...
[18:44] <Lava> erUSUL, Girltalk thanks, tried that, but it doesn't recognise the cd afterwards
[18:44] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I guess there's a reason why it was removed
[18:44] <Lava> says its blank
[18:44] <soundray> cousin_luigi: I can understand that.
[18:45] <dan> funkyHat, hmm, ive got the new ipod nano 4gb, ill try some songs and see how it goes
[18:45] <BasioDeJudas> elive or ubuntu?
[18:45] <the|Navigator> Hi.  I'm having an issue with the 8.04LTS upgrade...
[18:45] <tmapj> can anyone tell me what a dongle is?
[18:45] <soundray> cousin_luigi: have you tried gcjwebplugin ?
[18:45] <ibleed> funkyHat, rhythmbox will convert other formats to a ipod playable format ?  is that by default ?
[18:45] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I think I have...other problems arise
[18:45] <the|Navigator> It's gone though the upgrade and got to the 'Distribution upgrade' larger dialog... but the dialog has nothing on, it's just completely grey
[18:45] <cousin_luigi> soundray: textboxes don't work
[18:45] <metrekare> hello
[18:45] <Cygoku> Hi ppl, I still need help please !!
[18:45] <unop> arcsky, http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_&_Active_Directory
[18:46] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: yup, java6-jre doesnt work w/ volano chat
[18:46] <funkyHat> ibleed, yes, but only the copy it actually puts on the iPod, it leaves your music library alone
[18:46] <dan> !help
[18:46] <|neko|> forgive me if i repeat: anyone here knows how to set static IP addresses and static DNS servers in Ubuntu???
[18:46] <tmapj> what is a dongle?
[18:46] <kaminski-ltsp-br> who can help me with a broadcom wireless card in 8.04?
[18:46] <the|Navigator> After the download and the install, the window called 'Distribution Upgrade'... At a guess it does something to do with changing settings, but it's just blank for me...
[18:46] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: i just tested it, i know my java's working
[18:46] <svl> A lot of shortcut key combinations like Mod4 (Super?) + L, Mod4 + E, Mod4 + F seem to be reserved by something, and assigning them under system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts is not having any effect. Where can I find out what's reserving them, and how can I undo that?
[18:46] <soundray> cousin_luigi: yet another option is to get a 32bit firefox and the 32bit Sun Java plugin. Again, you'll be contaminating your system somewhat
[18:46] <cousin_luigi> |neko|: id' do it manually
[18:46] <ibleed> funkyHat, is that the only application you are aware of that does that ?  for ipod ?
[18:46] <unop> arcsky, also, this as a supplement http://acd.ucar.edu/~fredrick/linux/samba3/
[18:46] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I'm using 32bit hardy already
[18:46] <tyrone> hey how can i find out what video card do I have from the terminal?
[18:46] <snarkste1> I get up this morning and I have no sound..
[18:46] <RelookNA> ? commands
[18:46] <BasioDeJudas> ubuntu or elive?
[18:46] <svl> (Mod4 being the windows key. This is on a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04)
[18:46] <soundray> cousin_luigi: oh
[18:46] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: i booted into the old kernel and it now works perfectly
[18:46] <erUSUL> tyrone: lspci | grep -i vga
[18:47] <metrekare> is there any program for ubuntu like microsoft frontpage? I mean a user friendly graphic interface web page editor?
[18:47] <tyrone> thanks
[18:47] <nelydajo> tmapj, a dongle is a device that connects to usb or serial port. Allows you to connect to other devices e.g bluetooth dongle, or used for software copy protection
[18:47] <funkyHat> ibleed, I don't know, I expect gtkpod and amaroK do the same, banshee possibly does as well, but I don't think banshee works with classic/3g nano
[18:47] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I can install jre5 or 6 but that applet I need doesn't work with those
[18:47] <Super_Cat_Frog> IndyGunFreak: just thought i'd let you know
[18:47] <snarkste1> I did the distro update last night to the newest version and I had sound this morning i dont, and I have no idea how to fix it.
[18:47] <ibleed> thanks funkyHat i'll have to look into that
[18:47] <dan> im pretty new to linux, so i torrented this pack of 500 ebooks with almost every book on unix, c++, networking, the works possible. what book should i read first to get the hang of this OS?
[18:47] <soundray> cousin_luigi: you could install gutsy as a virtual machine and run firefox and jre1.4 inside that
[18:47] <tmapj> ok thnx nelydajo
[18:47] <User2005> ?
[18:48] <Girltalk> dan: some of us write those kinds of books for a living.
[18:48] <cousin_luigi> soundray: I guess I could, but it would be awful
[18:48] <svl> metrekare: try kompozer (in the universe repository; this used to be nvu if you're on an older ubuntu)
[18:48] <snarkste1> yah not smart to say that
[18:48] <navetz> hey I am using KDE, does anyone know if KRandTray is good for dual screening?
[18:48] <Cygoku> I ppl, I need to install a software with Synaptic, it's telling me to insert my Gutsy disc, but I don't have it, so I mounted the iso image ... But now it's always asking for the disc to be in the drive !! :( HELP !! :'(
[18:48] <BasioDeJudas> who has used ubuntu 8.04 ?
[18:48] <metrekare> svl: thanks, I'll try it
[18:48] <Super_Cat_Frog> snarkste1: i torrented this ubuntu thing, and now i'm feeling guilty
[18:48] <funkyHat> BasioDeJudas, I'm using 8.04
[18:48] <snarkste1> i installed it
[18:48] <soundray> cousin_luigi: it's the best idea so far, though ;)
[18:49] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: hey volano chat applet just popped up on my screen.
[18:49] <dan> Girltalk, haha well i dont know about writing them, i just wanna know which book i should start off with ;)
[18:49] <paule> BasioDeJudas: many people, including me, i hope not everyone answers -> Spam
[18:49] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: so i guess my java6 can work with it!
[18:49] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: try closing it from the close gadget
[18:49] <[DR]TNT_Boom> guys how do i mount my disks?
[18:49] <BasioDeJudas> what is spam?
[18:49] <Pici> !anyone | BasioDeJudas
[18:49] <[DR]TNT_Boom> it says cannot cd to /target
[18:49] <Super_Cat_Frog> i like cheese
[18:49] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to run some commands at startup?
[18:49] <snarkste1> oh lord
[18:49] <Super_Cat_Frog> cheese likes me
[18:49] <Super_Cat_Frog> lets all go and have cheese for tea
[18:49] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: u mean w/ the x at the upper right of the chat box?
[18:50] <Pici> !offtopic | Super_Cat_Frog
[18:50] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: yes
[18:50] <User2005> Yea tell me too...
[18:50] <Super_Cat_Frog> Pici: are you trying to say that cheese is offtopic?
[18:50] <Pici> Super_Cat_Frog: I am.
[18:50] <SitUbuntuSit> Cygoku, open system > administration > software sources and make sure that the cd is disabled as a repo
[18:50] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: just did, it does take a while to close
[18:50] <rama_su> Anyone heard of that open source software that lets you connect to any machine on the local network like it was all on a local switch right there at your computer?
[18:50] <Super_Cat_Frog> Pici: you are a bad person and should feel bad.
[18:50] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: did it close?
[18:50] <tech0007> yup...after a few tries
[18:50] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: interesting, let me have a try
[18:50] <paule> BasioDeJudas: SPAM is unwanted and unnecessary information that stops you from reading the important stuff. What did you want to ask about 8.04?
[18:50] <jorg1> hi there
[18:50] <bigtimer121> "An automatic file system check (fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A manuel fsck must be performed then the system should be restarted. The fsck should be performed in maintenance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode. i have now idea what this means. it was caused by a "routine check of drives /dev/sda1"
[18:51] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: this is why i hate java-based apps, they're too damn slow
[18:51] <Super_Cat_Frog> tech0007: they dont have to be, just some people insist on making them slow
[18:51] <andre_d> Why is it that I need to create a symlink to libjavaplugin_oji.so in my ~/.mozilla/plugin directory in order for Java to work in Firefox, even though the sun-java6-plugin package is installed?
[18:51] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: can u check if you're java install'n is working by going to this site http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[18:51] <[DR]TNT_Boom> how do i start sshd?
[18:52] <jorg1> does somebody could help me installing a program, i got a message error
[18:52] <BasioDeJudas> my real question is should i use Ubuntu and not elive...i am new to this linux stuff and i want to get into a new OS instead of MS
[18:52] <Girltalk> jorg1: you'll have to be more specific than that
[18:52] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: I'm using openjdk
[18:52] <tech0007> BasioDeJudas: i think u should ask yourself first if u can be patient w/ linux..hehe
[18:53] <cousin_luigi> I'll try again with jre6
[18:53] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: what do you use your computer for?
[18:53] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: oh ok, cause i juse sun-java6, dont know if that's the case
[18:53] <bazhang> BasioDeJudas: here is a huge support community; elive is fine, but not as large a community
[18:53] <IanFHood|suppert> I have Hardy server, with LAMP, plus desktop: how do I give permissions so I can use Gedit to modify etc/apache.conf (and others)... I need to add a virtualhost with rewrite to proxy an app on 8080
[18:53] <bigtimer121>  "An automatic file system check (fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A manuel fsck must be performed then the system should be restarted. The fsck should be performed in maintenance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode. i have now idea what this means. it was caused by a "routine check of drives /dev/sda1" can anyone help me???
[18:53] <paule> BasioDeJudas: I installed 8.04 without any problems, it was really straight forward and easy. I think it really is a leap from the last version I tried
[18:54] <cmdbbq> mmy university uses a windows (pptp) VPN for on campus wireless access, I have configured linux-pptp as they recomend on the tech support website, and am unable to connect the problem appears to be that while I have indicated it should refuse EAP, it is not actively refused, just ignored
[18:54] <BasioDeJudas> surfing the net, writing papers, a little gaming, checking emails, ...i am not a programmer , i do not do net works .... average use.
[18:54] <tech0007> BasioDeJudas: i'm glad hardy didnt give u a hard time...
[18:54] <SaLoMoN> hey bigtimer121 if you're repeating yourself all the time, please remove my name from that (manuel)
[18:54] <jorg1> sorry, girltalk
[18:54] <Pupen1> How do you do "cat blah >> /root/blah", when the /root/blah requires root access? without starting a shell as root.
[18:54] <SaLoMoN> i'm gettin highlighted
[18:54] <weaseal> bigtimer121, something very bad happened to your disk and now you have to manually run fsck
[18:54] <Pici> Pupen1: cat blah | sudo tee /root/blah
[18:54] <jorg1> girltalk, i was trying to install limewire
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: id use ubuntu hardy, it will be a fairly easy transition once you learn the ubuntu way of doing things(which is what we here in the channel will help you with)
[18:54] <ibleed> BasioDeJudas, ubuntu would work and is pretty easy to use it the majority of the people here dislike windows for all the right reasons
[18:54] <bazhang> BasioDeJudas: you can always install the enlightenment wm on ubuntu you know
[18:55] <dan> anyone know the command to open up a port?
[18:55] <funkyHat> [DR]TNT_Boom, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[18:55] <bigtimer121> weaseal: how do i do that manually, or should i just reinstall ubuntu on my comp
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: why would he do that?..lol
[18:55] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: well he wanted elive ;]
[18:55] <[DR]TNT_Boom> funkyhat its the client or the server?
[18:55] <BasioDeJudas> Oh really bazhang is that possible
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: oh thats right, i forgot elive uses enlightment
[18:55] <bazhang> BasioDeJudas: sure it is very easy to do
[18:55] <funkyHat> [DR]TNT_Boom, that is for the server, if you want to start a client just use the command ssh
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: of course its possible
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: try typing in the boxes
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: textboxes I mean
[18:56] <weaseal> bigtimer121, i dunno how to do it manually on linux...i haven't had that problem yet in linux. try googling for the terms 'manual fsck ubuntu'
[18:56] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: yeah...ok
[18:56] <BasioDeJudas> yes very easy for you all i must say... ;)
[18:56] <bigtimer121> cky: how do i manually run fsck??
[18:56] <weaseal> but if you don't have asnything important on your drive yeah you could just reinstall ubuntu and save yourself a strain
[18:56] <viniciolindo> ﻿hi, i have a big problem with my laptop about suspend/hibernate my laptop is an asus a7v with ati x700 and pentium M, my ubuntu is hardy: when i go in sleep mode i cannot wake up my computer..somebody can help me?
[18:56] <hwilde> !fsck | bigtimer121
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: its easy, and if you decide you want it, all you have to do is either google, or ask here, and someone will tell you
[18:56] <[DR]TNT_Boom> i lost the command for the torrent client??
[18:56] <bazhang> BasioDeJudas: you can install xfce, kde, enlightenment, fluxbox, and many others on ubuntu--and still be supported here
[18:57] <weaseal> bigtimer121, that error is typically caused by either a bad disk, or you shut the computer down when it was busy, perhaps your power went out, etc
[18:57] <BasioDeJudas> thanks :)
[18:57] <cousin_luigi> tech0007: anyway the chat site I'm interested in uses an older version of the volano chat, so it still has those pesky problems:/
[18:57] <cousin_luigi> I think I will install j2re1.4 manually
[18:57] <Zelta[Skole]> oh hey, they finally closed #ubuntu-release-party
[18:57] <[DR]TNT_Boom> how do i mount my hard disks?
[18:57] <[DR]TNT_Boom> Oo
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: but i would give the basic ubuntu desktop a chance before using enlightment, you'll probably find you like it.
[18:57] <HSNews> PEOPLE, how I can to know which name of eth0 and eth1?
[18:57] <bobbob1016> I'm experiencing random lockups, some people on the forums are saying that after upgrading to kernel 2.6.25, or the realtime, they don't have the lockups anymore.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial/how-to to get 2.6.25 installed?  I got a how-to for the realtime kernel, but that is from the repos, and I'd prefer the normal (monolithic?) kernel to the realtime one.
[18:57] <angelo> #ubuntu-it
[18:57] <andre_d> Why do I need to create a symlink to the java plugin file from my ~/.mozilla/plugin directory in order for java to work in Firefox, even though the sun-java6-plugin package is installed? Is that a known bug?
[18:57] <dan> anyone know the command to open up a port?
[18:58] <Zelta[Skole]> HSNews: Laptop?
[18:58] <Girltalk> bigtimer121: in my experience, file system errors that spontaneous and severe are of a physical nature.
[18:58] <tech0007> cousin_luigi: uhuh, wonder why its not workin on your box, if u can run other java-based websites, volano chat shld do just fine
[18:58] <BasioDeJudas> IndyGunFreak this is true...
[18:58] <Andeh> Hi. What part of xorg.conf has the default screen refresh rate? Kt
[18:58] <david_-_-> how do i install adobe shockwave player?
[18:58] <Andeh> It works when I log in but its too fast on the login screen and makes everything blurry
[18:59] <gNewPower> hi, I just installed the new Ubuntu 8.04 and my xmms is gone. which application best replaces it?
[18:59] <Zelta[Skole]> david_-_-: flashplugin-nonfree
[18:59] <SitUbuntuSit> david_-_-, there is no inux shocwave, just flash
[18:59] <Agrajag> Zelta[Skole]: that's not shockwave. david_-_-: There's no shockwave player for linux
[18:59] <SitUbuntuSit> *linux
[18:59] <HSNews> Zelta[Skole], PC
[18:59] <Zelta[Skole]> Agrajag: It's the next best thing ;)
[18:59] <david_-_-> agrajagah ok thank you..
[18:59] <Zelta[Skole]> HSNews: It depends on your hardware
[19:00] <moshe1234> i'm just updated my ubuntu , and now I'm unable to use the keyboard in gnome.. in gdm/console I can.. what can I do?
[19:00] <HSNews> Zelta[Skole], I mean by shell
[19:00] <SitUbuntuSit> Zelta[Skole], if you must have it, you can use wine to install safari or ie6
[19:00] <HSNews> in console
[19:00] <HappyHater> what should I use to share media with my xbox360?
[19:00] <Prez00> so, any of the bug updates made it into hardy repositories yet?
[19:00] <dan> HappyHater, ps3 for life :P
[19:00] <SitUbuntuSit> oops, i meant david_-_-
[19:00] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: just download a live CD, boot it, and see how you like it, you dont' have to install it to try it
[19:01] <IanFHood> how do I change permissions so I can use Gedit to modify etc/apache.conf? I added my username to sudoers but that didn't work - I have Hardy server, with LAMP, plus desktop
[19:01] <HSNews> And why in Ubuntu 8.04 'Startup Manager' disappear?
[19:01] <moshe1234> i'm a bit stuck, since I can not use the browser to google or something..
[19:01] <BasioDeJudas> Ok
[19:01] <dan> HappyHater, picked up gta4 yet?
[19:01] <BasioDeJudas> thanks IndyGunFreak
[19:01] <HappyHater> downloaded it :P
[19:01] <moshe1234> somebody?
[19:01] <IndyGunFreak> BasioDeJudas: one other word of advice, stick w/ 32bit.. don't mess w/ 64bit right now.., stay with the iso's that have "i386" after the name.
[19:01] <thebitgu1u> Does anyone know what cairo-glitz.h is part of?
[19:01] <BasioDeJudas> ok
[19:02] <jonalv> Okey I am trying to upgrade (I am on 6.10) and I get this message: "Failed to fetch http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntuopengl/./Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily" anyon know anything about that?
[19:02] <david_-_-> SitUbuntuSit: lol ah when i tried to use 32bit firefox it wont establish a connection. not in wine anyways im on 64 bit hardy .
[19:02] <moshe1234> I can't use the browser to google an answer even...
[19:02] <kli> selam
[19:02] <kli> türk varmı
[19:02] <cras> oi
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> moshe1234: have you tried an alternate browser?
[19:02] <Fogel1497> ﻿Hi i am using ubuntu linux hardy. When I try to install a theme i get an error saying "Firefox could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox_-1.0.2-fx.jar     Because: unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[19:03] <viniciolindo> ﻿ ﻿hi, i have a big problem with my laptop about suspend/hibernate my laptop is an asus a7v with ati x700 and pentium M, my ubuntu is hardy: when i go in sleep mode i cannot wake up my computer..somebody can help me?
[19:03] <moshe1234> IndyGunFreak it doesn't work in any application in gnome
[19:03] <IndyGunFreak> moshe1234: what doesn't, no web browser?. or your internet connection
[19:03] <Fogel1497> !firefox
[19:04] <andre_d> No alternatives for xulrunner-addons-javaplugin.so.
[19:04] <andre_d> WTF?
[19:04] <moshe1234> IndyGunFreak no no.. I've just upgraded to newest ubuntu, and I can not type anything in the xwindows in gnome, I use the console now
[19:04] <weaseal> bigtimer121, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618873
[19:04] <IndyGunFreak> moshe1234: i see.
[19:05] <irc__> Can someone tell me what is so great about unbuntu ?
[19:05] <jonalv> Okey I am trying to upgrade (I am on 6.10) and I get this message: "Failed to fetch http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntuopengl/./Packages.gz 302 Moved Temporarily" anyone know anything about that?
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> irc__: its not windows
[19:05] <moshe1234> so any ideas?
[19:05] <jonalv> irc__: Normally it jsut works. Not for me right now though... :)
[19:05] <irc__> Sorry to hear that.
[19:05] <svl> A lot of shortcut key combinations like Mod4 (Super? the windows key, in any case) + L, Mod4 + E, Mod4 + F seem to be reserved by something, and assigning them under system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts is not having any effect (the assigned action is not performed). These actions do work when I assign them to an 'unreserved' combo like Mod4+R (after disabling compiz). Where can I...
[19:05] <svl> ...find out what's reserving them, and how can I undo that?
[19:05] <irc__> I just don't understand what's great about it.
[19:05] <david_-_-_> SitUbuntuSit: so wouldnt ie6 do same thing not stablish connection? like 32 bit firefox does in wine with my 64 bit hardy.
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> jonalv: i'd say it rarely just works.. it always requires some configuring/tweaking..
[19:06] <jonalv> irc__: What I think is best about it is aptitude. Ever tried yum? :/
[19:06] <manifest_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Input/output error
[19:06] <manifest_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a
[19:06] <manifest_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[19:06] <manifest_> then reboot into Windows TWICE. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[19:06] <manifest_> important! If you have SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first you must activate
[19:06] <FloodBot2> manifest_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:06] <IndyGunFreak> irc__: then it would proably be a waste of time for you to download it... people who use linux, have reasons.
[19:06] <manifest_> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
[19:06] <black_ubuntu> hi guys
[19:06] <SitUbuntuSit> david_-_-, I'm not sure. you could try it out and see. ie4linux is the name of the program.
[19:06] <Zelta[Skole]> hi
[19:06] <black_ubuntu> who has 8.04? )
[19:06] <manifest_> whats the problem in that case
[19:07] <moshe1234> the problem is that I can not use the keyboard in gnome
[19:07] <drivetrax> like, I've been reading.. and ATI don't officially support 9600 under Ubuntu
[19:07] <IndyGunFreak> manifest_: i don't think it got all pasted because floodbot kicked you, use common sense and pastebin it.
[19:07] <irc__> IndyGunFreak:  I've used linux for a long time now.  Just didn't see any difference with Ubuntu, other than it's a little easier for others to use.
[19:07] <Zelta[Skole]> black_ubuntu: Most people in here have upgraded to Hardy Heron
[19:07] <fiyawerx> hm, anyone know how i could burn a ppt to a dvd?
[19:07] <Fogel1497> @irc___: Its extremely secure and i like all the free applications. I have the GIMPshop "hack" installed and it basically is photoshop for free. I can't get viruses, and everything simply works. Although everything can be a bitch to install
[19:07] <paule> irc__: for example installing programs is really easy and fast
[19:07] <irc__> I'm debating if I want to go back to it, though
[19:07] <black_ubuntu> -Zelta[Skole]- black_ubuntu: Most people in here have upgraded to Hardy Heron \\\ and there is no bugs?
[19:07] <drivetrax> cute.. gimpshop
[19:07] <irc__> I just reformatted my hdd.
[19:07] <david_-_-_> ok for some reason my net speed is real high but right now it is really working slow for some reason. how do i fix this?
[19:08] <irc__> I'm currently running xp pro
[19:08] <IndyGunFreak> irc__: well, if you're an experienced user, then only you can decide if you like ubuntu.. its really geared more towards new people.
[19:08] <fr500> david_-_-call ur isp :p
[19:08] <manifest_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Input/output error
[19:08] <manifest_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a
[19:08] <manifest_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[19:08] <manifest_> then reboot into Windows TWICE. The usage of the /f parameter is very
[19:08] <drivetrax> irc__,  sacreledge
[19:08] <manifest_> important! If you have SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first you must activate
[19:08] <FloodBot2> manifest_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:08] <manifest_> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
[19:08] <IndyGunFreak> manifest_: are you retarded?..
[19:08] <Zelta[Skole]> black_ubuntu: There are bugs, to be sure; but it should work perfectly if Feisty Fawn worked perfectly
[19:08] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, be nice
[19:08] <drivetrax> manifest_,  destiny?
[19:08] <IndyGunFreak> ompaul: lol, thas the second time in less than 2min floodbot has had to kick him
[19:08] <ompaul> IndyGunFreak, ahh
[19:08] <manifest_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Input/output error
[19:09] <manifest_> NTFS is either inconsistent, or you have hardware faults, or you have a
[19:09] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | manifest_
[19:09] <irc__> I can do almost everything with andLinux that I can with ubuntu.
[19:09] <IndyGunFreak> for cryin out loud
[19:09] <ompaul> manifest_, paste a large block again and I am going to ban you
[19:09] <manifest_> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
[19:09] <cramen> hello giggers!!!
[19:09] <landiver> hi)
[19:09] <IndyGunFreak> irc__: then stick w/ andlinux, nobody says you have to switch
[19:09] <irc__> and also less space.
[19:09] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8989/
[19:09] <irc__> I didn't say that.
[19:09] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out.  How can I fix this?
[19:09] <cramen> who is from russia?
[19:09] <manifest_> thats the problem when mounting C:
[19:09] <irc__> I'm just stating my opinions
[19:09] <david_-_-_> manifest_: can u start pasting your outposts here please http://pastebin.ca/
[19:09] <moshe1234> the problem is that I can not use the keyboard in gnome
[19:09] <Fogel1497> im using ubuntu cause this is my first linux distro
[19:09] <moshe1234> through in gdm I have
[19:09] <ArthurArchnix> IndyGunFreak: got it. Pretty easy fix actually. FF3 looks for plugins in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ but Gutsy creates them in /usr/lib/firefox/addons.   So you just copy them from the latter to the former and everything works a treat. Thanks for the help.
[19:10] <drivetrax> icr , eh.. keep xp in a closet
[19:10] <ibleed> irc__, since you've decided that windows is the solution to your problems you probably dont need us :)  most of us here avoid windows for all the right reasons :)
[19:10] <ompaul> !windows
[19:10] <david_-_-_> manifest_: then give the link to the room.
[19:10] <Zelta[Skole]> irc__: This is a channel for ubuntu support, not stating your opinions
[19:10] <IndyGunFreak> ArthurArchnix: ah, ok.. good
[19:10] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out.  How can I fix this?
[19:10] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8989/
[19:10] <Fogel1497> can someone help me out installing themes with firefox?
[19:10] <pygmymath>  thats weird heh
[19:10] <irc__> I don't give a fuck
[19:10] <drivetrax> hahaha
[19:10] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[19:10] <Zelta[Skole]> :D
[19:10] <pygmymath> "pwned"
[19:11] <drivetrax> hahaha
[19:11] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[19:11] <Fogel1497> Has anyone sucessfully installed themes in firefox?
[19:11] <david_-_-_> Fogel1497: what type of themes are you trying to install?
[19:11] <landiver> what's the problem with firefox???)))
[19:11] <moshe1234> I'm stuck in console mode...
[19:11] <moshe1234> i don't have keyboard in gnome
[19:11] <Zelta[Skole]> Fogel1497: Visit #firefox on irc.mozilla.org for Firefox help
[19:11] <Fogel1497> Just a standard theme for firefox. I get an error whenever I go to install a theme.
[19:11] <moshe1234> any idea how to fix it?
[19:11] <drivetrax> rippped out FireFox..
[19:11] <Fogel1497> I went, theres no one there. I've been in there 3 times.
[19:11] <bigtimer121> nothing has worked so far. still starts up and tries to do the "routine check of drivers /dev/sda1"
[19:11] <NeoGeo64> Does anyone know why my other desktop space is greyed out?  When I click on it nothing happens
[19:11] <drivetrax> got seamonkies
[19:11] <Fogel1497> the morning, an hour ago, and now. theres no active people in there
[19:11] <ibleed> i looked at some screenshots for enlightenment, specifically elive, but i am wondering if i can get the same desktop effects if i ran enlightenment on ubuntu
[19:11] <ArthurArchnix> Nice tip from ubotu about our short and ugly bretheren
[19:12] <Zelta[Skole]> Fogel1497: Did you download a theme (.xpi) file from addons.mozilla.org?
[19:12] <Zelta[Skole]> And did it prompt you to install it?
[19:12]  * chalcedony smiles
[19:12] <Fogel1497> yeeees i did
[19:12] <bazhang> ibleed: with some tweaking sure
[19:12] <chalcedony> where for hardy support?  a friend asked
[19:12] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8989/  help anyone? that message comes when i try to mount my disks
[19:12] <Fogel1497> i never got prompted to install it
[19:12] <bazhang> chalcedony: here
[19:12] <Zelta[Skole]> Fogel1497: Did you click "Add to Firefox"
[19:12] <chalcedony> thought there was some other chan
[19:12] <ibleed> Fogel1497, some themes are not compatible with firefox 3b5
[19:12] <chalcedony> bazhang: ty
[19:12] <Fogel1497> im using firefox2
[19:12] <jonalv> where can I find people who knows anything about ubuntu update servers?
[19:13] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out...
[19:13] <Fogel1497> ﻿i get an error saying "Firefox could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox_-1.0.2-fx.jar     Because: unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[19:13] <bazhang> chalcedony: there was before final release; now we are all in here
[19:13] <bigtimer121> cky: when i start up my computer it starts a "routine check of drivers : /Dev/sda1" you know of this???
[19:13] <Zelta[Skole]> jonalv: #ubuntu-server
[19:13] <AfroRowan> heey
[19:13] <Zelta[Skole]> Fogel1497: Review the error console log for more details.
[19:13] <Fogel1497> For the guy with the workspace problem try right clicking the workspace and go to properties and make 3 workspaces. then see if you can use either of your other two
[19:14] <Fogel1497> how do i access the error console log
[19:14] <ibleed> bazhang, so it the environment itself that is the engine for the desktop effects?  i was hoping you'd undertand that if i tried enlightment on ubuntu that i didn't care for compiz stuff
[19:14] <ChaosTh_ory^> How do you save the changes you made to bash from Terminal?
[19:14] <DexterF> !cd
[19:14] <GhotiPhud> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[19:15] <kohnrad1982> How do I remove the firefox beta from the new ubuntu so I can go back to the current release version?  This new firefox keeps locking up on me while I had no problems at all before hand.
[19:15] <bazhang> ibleed: let me check something hang on a sec
[19:15] <ibleed> thanks bazhang
[19:15] <Fogel1497> Kohrad go to system > adminastration >synaptic package manager
[19:15] <m3ltd0wn123> Is there a way I can send a window to the currently logged in user on my ubuntu box from ssh?
[19:15] <ibleed> kohnrad1982, sudo apt-get remove firefox-3 ; sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[19:15] <Fogel1497> or that
[19:16] <Fogel1497> that works too and is probably quicker :-D
[19:16] <bigtimer121> IndyGunFreak: when i start up my computer it starts a "routine check of drivers : /Dev/sda1" what do you know of this???
[19:16] <kohnrad1982> ok, thanks. im trying to make myself use the command line so I'll go that route
[19:16] <Scunizi> Hardy Weirdness.. On boot at the login prompt my numeric keypad built into my keyboard works fine.  After the gui initializes it doesn't work in the gui, terminal but does if I go to ctrl+alt+f2. Any ideas why or a possible fix?  I use it all the time and feel crippled without it.
[19:16] <m3ltd0wn123> Can I send a message to the x-windows logged in user from ssh?
[19:16] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: does it freeze up on that check?
[19:17] <DexterF> what kernel does 8.04 come with?
[19:17] <tawd> dexterf, 2.6.24-16
[19:17] <Zloog> 2.6.24-16
[19:17] <mitch_> bsr
[19:18] <bigtimer121> runs a check and tells me "an automatic file system check (Fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A manuel fsck  must be performed, then the system restarted. the fsck should be performed in a maintenance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode"
[19:18] <tom`> Hi all, I have Hardy on my laptop, sound works fine until I suspend, when I resume the sound doesn't work anymore. No error messages, just silence
[19:18] <bullgard1> DexterF: Do 'uname -v'
[19:18] <tom`> Any ideas? Where do you look for pulseaudio problems?
[19:18] <DexterF> bullgard1: what for?
[19:19] <hardywireless> hello all
[19:19] <DexterF> tawd: thanks
[19:19] <hardywireless> friendly people
[19:19] <tawd> dexterf, np
[19:19] <hardywireless> i wonder , is there an small bug in the wireless and hardy?
[19:19] <kohnrad1982> ok, got firefox 3 removed and am currently downloading firefox 2.  thanks again for the help
[19:19] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: runs a check and tells me "an automatic file system check (Fsck) of the root filesystem failed. A manuel fsck  must be performed, then the system restarted. the fsck should be performed in a maintenance mode with the root filesystem mounted in read-only mode"
[19:20] <slashzul> does Ubuntu have sessions like solaris containers?
[19:20] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: so you need to run a manual fsck, according to that
[19:20] <hardywireless> gnome has sessions
[19:20] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html ibleed this is for gutsy; e16 is in hardy repos
[19:20] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: how do i do that
[19:20] <hardywireless> but i dont know if that is what you are talking about
[19:20] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: not really sure.
[19:20] <hardywireless> any wireless goeroes?
[19:20] <bullgard1> DexterF: err! Do uname -r
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> !fsck
[19:21] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: should i just reinstall ubuntu??
[19:21] <MR-REznOr> hey i just installed 8.04 on my laptop and wireless just plain doesnt work. my wireless is  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02). i checked all sorts of forums, tried downgrading network-manager, then re upgrading and i tried wicd but nothing seems to work. somewhere i read someone got it working with an older kernel, could that be the issue and if so can someone point me to a good place to learn to do that?
[19:21] <bigtimer121> Indygunfreak: or won't that fix the problem
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: look at what ubotu just said.
[19:21] <tawd> hardywireless, i can't find a driver for my Realtek 8187 ...  :(
[19:21] <hardywireless> rt2500usb , i get bad performance out of this card, as in reach and speed, who knows about this little problem?
[19:21] <tawd> only wires for me
[19:21] <ibleed> thank you bazhang.  i was pretty sure it was in the repos.  i guess my main concern was trying out enlightenment and getting the same e17/e16 desktop effects that i saw on the elive video, i did not want to carry over the compiz desktop effects, i wanted to check out new ones.  thank you for trying to help though
[19:21] <flaco> why is a pain in the ass configure a second monitor in ubuntu :(
[19:21] <DexterF> bullgard1: that would give me the kernel version of the running kernel. that wasn't my questiuon, just for the protocol but solved anyway.
[19:22] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: i did what ubotu said, and it didn't do anything. just restarted my computer through a command in a terminal.
[19:22] <hardywireless> realtek 8187 = ?
[19:22] <tawd> ?
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: well, according to that, it will force a system check when it restarts.. did it do that?
[19:22] <slashzul> is there an NX equivalent on ubuntu?
[19:22] <DJones> hardywireless: There is a bug listed here, doesn't look like its been fixed in the current kernel, but this link may help you https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24/+bug/190515
[19:22] <bazhang> ibleed: to get e17 in hardy may require similar steps as in that link--e16 is just a bit less zen
[19:23] <bigtimer121> indygunfreak: no, just restarts it to the "routine check drivers"
[19:23] <IndyGunFreak> bigtimer121: have no clue what your problem is.. sorry
[19:23] <bigtimer121> k
[19:23] <LifeEscalade> hi all
[19:23] <w00t> hi, I upgraded to 8.04 from gutsy, and everything seemed to go smooth, until I reboot. I can't boot into the (default) 2.6.24-16 kernel listed in grub, and instead have to fallback to 2.6.22-13 to get things working.. is there any known issues with this?
[19:23] <bazhang> http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/making-intel-wireless-3945abg-work-better-on-ubuntu-hardy/ MR-REznOr have you seen this
[19:24] <w00t> the actual message I get is something along the lines of "kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)"
[19:24] <soundray> slashzul: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[19:24] <AfroRowan> hey
[19:24] <AfroRowan> i have a problem
[19:24] <mrx_> how to make a boot image on a USB flash drive from a copy of CD ?
[19:24] <LifeEscalade> im having trouble with the 8.04 LTS install, can anyone help?
[19:24] <MR-REznOr> bazhang : nope, will read it now, thanks a million :)
[19:24] <tawd> w00t, boot into recovery mode and secect the third option (i think it's something like reconfigure xserver) then boot normally
[19:24] <tawd> w00t, nevermind then.  just read your second message
[19:24] <AfroRowan> im resizing my partitions with gparted and i need to get my unallocated space to my ext3 partition... heres the screenshot:  http://i29.tinypic.com/154vqti.png
[19:25] <pygmymath> LifeEscalade: Not without knowing the problem
[19:25] <w00t> tawd, :)
[19:25] <Swordsman> hey
[19:25] <soundray> w00t: I think the installation of the kernel package was incomplete. You need to find out the exact name and run 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.24-16-whatever'
[19:25] <laeg> !nic
[19:25] <Swordsman> my sister wants a guide for people who're just starting out with ubuntu, is there anything like that?
[19:26] <w00t> soundray, I'll give it a go now :)
[19:26] <DJones> hardywireless: This command seems to help some people, although I replaced my wireless card because I had a spare -> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M You may need to change wlan0 to ra0 which is what my rt2500 card was detected as
[19:26] <LifeEscalade> pygmymath: i got the server lts downloaded, checked md5 and matched, but when i go to install it wont load installer components from the iso burn
[19:26] <bazhang> hang on a sec Swordsman
[19:26] <laeg> do i need to do anything to my nic card? i can connect to the internet
[19:26] <soundray> !faq | Swordsman, this is a good place to start
[19:26] <Blackdoggy> I've installed vsftpd, when I connect to my serv and want to change files in /var/www, I get 'Permission denied', how can I give myself permission?
[19:26] <svl> once more, hoping someone knows: something is preventing the use of win-L, win-F e.a. for assigning to actions in the system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts dialog. (They get assigned, but have no effect.) Does _anyone_ know how/where I can make this work? (Undo the current assignment for these shortcuts.)
[19:26] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training Swordsman
[19:27] <hardywireless> ok thanks , i will look into that
[19:27] <Swordsman> alright, thanks :)
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> Swordsman: this might also help...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[19:27] <LifeEscalade> pygmymath: it keeps failing to copy a file from the cd, but its burned properly =\
[19:27] <Swordsman> !faq
[19:27] <paco__> ma per ubuntu in italiano?
[19:27] <DJones> !it | paco__
[19:27] <Swordsman> oh
[19:27] <svl> (Also: Am I somehow not giving essential information for my question to be answered, or is no response to me merely a case of no one knowing?)
[19:28] <w00t> soundray, http://rafb.net/p/GiG1Ox15.html -- any ideas if that's good or bad? ;)
[19:28] <JenFraggle> my partition manager doesn't let me do anything with any of the partitions.  I want to delete a partition
[19:29] <Intangir> well im upgrading!
[19:29] <Intangir> to .. heron
[19:29] <h00k> JenFraggle: you have to unmount them before you can delete a partition
[19:29] <DJones> JenFraggle: Is the partition mounted? Normally if its mounted, you can't make changes
[19:29] <T3T4> i just got a technician to configure my internet connection in ubuntu 7.10, now i am running the updater and i saw that i can upgrade to ubuntu 8.04, will the update process erase the internet configuration?
[19:29] <soundray> w00t: nothing untoward in there. But you'll only know for sure once you've rebooted...
[19:29] <Sherry345> can u read me?
[19:29] <Sherry345> sir when i start my ubuntu it goes to busybox
[19:29] <Sherry345> what to do plz tell me
[19:29] <JenFraggle> thanks.  i'm trying to delete vista
[19:29] <soundray> T3T4: no. Still, have a backup so you can go back if need be.
[19:29] <w00t> soundray, let's give it a go then. be back soon (hopefully sucessfully ;p)
[19:30] <Intangir> Sherry345: i heard someone else saying they had that problem on nforce3 motherboards?
[19:30] <bicz> hi, i'v a little problem with bluetooth.. the transfer from my pc to my phone work.. but from my phone to my pc no.. any ideas?=
[19:30] <DJones> JenFraggle: Be careful doing that, if Vista is on your first partition, deleting it could also delete the mbr and you may need to reinstall grub
[19:30] <Sherry345> no last night it was ok but tonigh just i opened my pc it shows like press esp key to see menu
[19:31] <T3T4> another question, is the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 worth it?
[19:31] <Sherry345> and then i stat generic sort of something
[19:31] <Sherry345> i have 8.4 LTs
[19:31] <Scunizi> anyone have their wacom tablet working after the upgrade?
[19:31] <h00k> !LTS | T3T4
[19:31] <genie> Pidgin freeze  in 8.04 any body face same problem?!
[19:31] <Sherry345> no i dont have n force
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> !wacom | Scunizi
[19:31] <T3T4> nice
[19:31] <slashzul> thanks! FreeNX is exactly what Im looking for!
[19:31] <JenFraggle> DJones: I've got triple boot, gutsy, xp and vista.  I did the recovery partition for xp thinking that it would wipe everything but all it has done is put xp back to it's initial state and stopped me from loading vista.  vista is still installed on it's partition
[19:31] <Sherry345> no it do not get freezez
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i thought wacom tablets had a trigger..
[19:32] <crash91> I have a problem with emerald, it is working but i am unable to see any themes in the window let alone install some.
[19:32] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: it was working on gutsy but broke on the upgrade.. I also lost my numeric keypad on my keyboard  :(
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi: no clue, sorry
[19:32] <LifeEscalade> im getting Failed to copy file from cd-rom on the 8.04 server install iso... md5 checked and matched, can anyone help?
[19:32] <Sherry345> when i start my pc it goes to busybox
[19:32] <DJones> JenFraggle: ok, just thought it was worth mentioning, I don't use vista/xp so can't suggest anything on that
[19:32] <Sherry345> how to load ubuntu i dont even know commands i am a vista user
[19:32] <Sherry345> :(
[19:32] <JenFraggle> DJones: I am going to do a fresh install of hardy after I get shot of vista
[19:33] <laeg> do i need to do anything to my nic card to improve it? i can connect to the internet
[19:33] <crash91> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772650 is the thread if anyone can help me.
[19:33] <JenFraggle> I don't like upgrading, fresh installs are cleaner and I always have a separate home partition.
[19:33] <DeviantMIND> i got awn manger yesterday but whenever i open it i get an error
[19:33] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to change a bunch of images from tif to gif or jpg?  I thought GIMP had some comman dline tool that would do it
[19:34] <Sherry345> can anyone tell me how to load ubuntu from busybox
[19:34] <Sherry345> :(
[19:34] <soundray> JenFraggle: you could leave the hard disk preparation to the installer -- no need to fiddle with partitions beforehand
[19:34] <h00k> DeviantMIND: AWN is still in beta phase, it isn't complete yet
[19:34] <w00t> soundray, no luck, unfortunately
[19:34] <soundray> Sherry345: when it enters busybox, there should be some sort of error or explanation
[19:34] <JenFraggle> soundray: ok, thanks
[19:34] <soundray> w00t: still panicking?
[19:35] <Sherry345> no there is not error
[19:35] <w00t> yeah, same message
[19:35] <h00k> DeviantMIND:etting? what error are you g
[19:35] <bullgard1> My GNOME terminal does render the GNOME terminal font letters with fixed width. How can I change that to variable-width?
[19:35] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out...
[19:35] <Sherry345> it is: debian123BLAH BLAhubuntu
[19:35] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out.  How can I fix this?
[19:35] <m3ltd0wn123> Can I send a message to the x-windows logged in user from ssh?
[19:35] <jaffarkelshac> is any anyway to fix my invisible trashbin?
[19:35] <soundray> w00t: perhaps the new kernel is incompatible with your system. Have you ever tried booting hardy from a Desktop CD?
[19:36] <crash91> I have a problem with emerald, it is working but i am unable to see any themes in the window let alone install some. could someone please help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772650
[19:36] <ubud> what program is microsoft viso equivalent?
[19:36] <DeviantMIND> hook awn manager closed unexpectedly
[19:36] <LifeEscalade> I keep getting a failed to copy file from cd error while trying to install the ubuntu server iso... checked md5 sums and they matched and burned on low and high speeds... can anyone help?
[19:36] <crash91> ubud: OpenOffice.org Draw
[19:36] <Sherry345> soundray: can u tell me how to load ubuntu :(
[19:36] <soundray> jaffarkelshac: right-click the panel and select Add to Panel. You want the Deleted Items applet
[19:36] <JasonWoof> any idea why textboxes in epiphany can't keep up with my typing anymore?
[19:36] <noutzinho> anyone for twinview configuration ?
[19:37] <h00k> DeviantMIND: run it from a terminal and see if it shows anything in the terminal after it crashes
[19:37] <jaffarkelshac> my problem is, no matter how many times i add it, it does not show up soundray
[19:37] <NeoGeo64> I have a strange problem.  I cannot access my other workspace.  It is grayed out.  How can I fix this?
[19:37] <DeviantMIND> hook how do i do that?
[19:37] <genie> join #Debian
[19:37] <highshadow> anyone successfully use wine to play world of warcraft.  i get a fatal error when i try
[19:37] <LifeEscalade> I keep getting a failed to copy file from cd error while trying to install the ubuntu server iso... checked md5 sums and they matched and burned on low and high speeds... can anyone help?
[19:37] <crash91> DeviantMIND: sudo awn-manager &
[19:37] <en0x> omg
[19:37] <h00k> DeviantMIND: open a terminal and type 'avant-window-navigator
[19:37] <Sherry345> NeoGeo64 if u are using compiz fusion then u can solve it enable atleast one option like desktop cube
[19:37] <en0x> who da fuck came up with ubuntu and NO ALSACONF
[19:37] <en0x> omg
[19:37] <h00k> DeviantMIND: do what crash91 said.
[19:38] <adelejjeh> hey guyz anyone knows how to configure a graphic card?
[19:38] <jaffarkelshac> !virtualizers
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> !language | en0x
[19:38] <noutzinho> virtualbox rulez
[19:38] <dimitree> How can i display the Language Layout change icon on ubuntu when having two imput languages ?
[19:38] <soundray> Sherry345: it's too bad that there doesn't seem to be a clue as to why it starts busybox rather than Ubuntu.
[19:38] <Netham45> :(
[19:38] <en0x> well why there is no alsaconf in ubuntu
[19:38] <en0x> :S
[19:38] <pygmymath>  noutzinho: its not bad certainly
[19:38] <Netham45> Ubuntu-release-party is closed. :(
[19:38] <soundray> Sherry345: have you tried booting from a CD?
[19:38] <adelejjeh>  hey guyz anyone knows how to configure a graphic card?
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> en0x: there is alsaconf.. why don't you state what your problem is
[19:39] <noutzinho> Twinview for dualscreen ?
[19:39] <JuAnXT> Salut
[19:39] <en0x> well my soundcard is not working and i need alsaconf
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> !sound | en0x
[19:39] <en0x> and my second monitor dont want to work too
[19:39] <en0x> fck it
[19:39] <crash91> Just out of curiosity, what would you guys say is better overall, Cairo-Dock or AWN?
[19:39] <en0x> i'm going to gentoo
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> en0x: ok, do whatever you want.
[19:39] <adelejjeh>  hey guyz anyone knows how to configure a graphic card?
[19:39] <soundray> en0x: go now before you get kicked
[19:39] <Sherry345> no soundray i installed it from live cd now when tonight i opened it it shows before loading that press escape key to enter in menu and then i selected all of 3 options to load ubuntu but it keeps on goin to busybox
[19:39] <tehk> Hello all, my keyboard stops working after I log in at the GDM, any ideas?
[19:39] <pygmymath> crash91: AWN wins
[19:39] <LifeEscalade> i keep getting a Load Installer components from cd error shile trying to install 8.04 server iso, can anyone help?
[19:39] <en0x> i'm going
[19:39] <DeviantMIND> hook when i typed what u said the dock came up
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> en0x: i'm sure with that attitude, they'll love you over at gentoo
[19:40] <pygmymath> crash91: or just make your panel big :P
[19:40] <crash91> pygmymath: Im using it now :) but ive heard a lot about cairo-dock
[19:40] <aubade> Is there any immediate danger to setting the reserved blocks count on an ext3 filesystem to 0%? Not for my / partition but /home.
[19:40] <chuy_max> hi, I'm updating from hardy heron beta to hardy heron stable, but update-manager tells me that not all updates can be installed, should I do a partial upgrade?
[19:40] <dimitree> How can i tuggle the display of the Change language input icon in Ubuntu ?
[19:40] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: I didn't know that there were gentoo trolls ;)
[19:41] <h00k> lol @ soundray
[19:41] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol, every once in a great while....
[19:41] <pygmymath> crash91: i gotta try it again heh but try it, thats what linux is about :P
[19:41] <danbhfive> chuy_max: doing a partial upgrade, and getting from beta to stable, I think, are the same thing
[19:41] <eitreach> Unreal Tournament 2007 - is there a native linux client?
[19:41] <crash91> chuy_max: have you tried selecting the CD as a upgrade source?
[19:41] <crash91> pygmymath: :)
[19:41] <soundray> Sherry345: would it be terrible to just try and install it again?
[19:41] <DeviantMIND> hook i want a cooler looking dock
[19:41] <JasonWoof> highshadow: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1922
[19:41] <pygmymath> brb x gonna go psycho on me, YAY FOR NVIDIA DRIVERS
[19:41] <Sherry345> soundray i have to kill myself :D
[19:41] <manifest_> my GRUB wont show vista :(
[19:42] <bullgard1> My GNOME terminal does render the GNOME terminal font letters with fixed width. How can I change that to variable-width?
[19:42] <chuy_max> crash91, no, I don't have the latest CD, I have the beta one
[19:42] <adelejjeh>  hey guyz anyone knows how to configure a graphic card?
[19:42] <JasonWoof> bullgard1: aaah! don't do that
[19:42] <soundray> Sherry345: regard that option as a last resort please ;)
[19:42] <h00k> DeviantMIND: let me dircct you to http://wiki.awn-project.org/Main_Page
[19:42] <laeg> adelejjeh: nvidia?
[19:42] <angasule> bullgard1: are you insane? terminals are supposed to work with fixed width, a variable width terminal is broken
[19:42] <adelejjeh> laeg: yes
[19:42] <Intangir> crash91: how do you select the ugprade CD as an upgrade source?
[19:42] <NeoGeo64> Sherry345, I have desktop cube enabled already
[19:42] <mettao87> hi
[19:42] <Intangir> i thought i did, buti ts still downloading 1000+ packages
[19:42] <Intangir> over an hour
[19:42] <LifeEscalade> anyone know why i'd fail to load installer components from cd if the md5 checksums matched and disc was burned on slow speed?
[19:42] <laeg> !nvidia | adelejjeh
[19:42] <laeg> !res | adelejjeh
[19:42] <angasule> bullgard1: variable width would break midnight commander and all other programs that use ncurses, for example
[19:43] <adelejjeh> thx alot!
[19:43] <laeg> adelejjeh: note that you can skip the xorg autodetect bit - if you're in hardy
[19:43] <JasonWoof> LifeEscalade: disk read error?
[19:43] <Sherry345> soundray i am uninstalling it
[19:43] <DeviantMIND> hook is that to say that Awn can look really cool?
[19:43] <Sherry345> it is crap :D
[19:43] <elTigre> Help! I can't play any sound any more...
[19:43] <JasonWoof> LifeEscalade: does the checksum match after burning or before?
[19:43] <LifeEscalade> before
[19:43] <laeg> guys do i need to do anything with my network card other than input the ip addresses?
[19:43] <AfroRowan> elTigre: try to turn off mute
[19:43] <crash91> Intangir: You go to System>Admin>software sources
[19:43] <NeoGeo64> Sherry345, the cube thing was already enabled.. now im lost lol
[19:44] <laeg> !audio | elTigre
[19:44] <JasonWoof> LifeEscalade: disk could be corrupt, or scratched or something
[19:44] <elTigre> afrorowan: well, at least kmix doesn't show mute
[19:44] <LifeEscalade> new discs =\
[19:44] <LifeEscalade> also burned at 16x then 8x
[19:44] <Sherry345> NeoGeo64 ahan then install it again as i did
[19:44] <Sherry345> lol
[19:44] <Intangir> crash91: ok my CD is listed in there as third-party
[19:44] <soundray> Sherry345: no, it isn't. You just had bad luck.
[19:44] <Intangir> but it seems to be downloading just about everything anyway
[19:44] <soundray> Sherry345: can happen with any OS
[19:44] <elTigre> laeg: I am using kubuntu
[19:44] <h00k> DeviantMIND: there are some pretty nice themes out there for it, and that site is where you can find them
[19:44] <crash91> DeviantMIND: It depends from person to person, i find it very cool. You might want to try Cairo-Dock or KibaDock if you dont like it.
[19:44] <Sherry345> soundray i have faced this problem 3 times and i did same, uninstalling uninstalling
[19:45] <laeg> elTigre: i've never set up a card in kubuntu
[19:45] <h00k> DeviantMIND: check out http://wiki.awn-project.org/Themes for themes
[19:45] <Sherry345> ok is there any option to load mirc scripts in xchat
[19:45] <AfroRowan> lol
[19:45] <Hammer89> every time I try to SSH into another computer a window pops up saying "An application wants access to the private key "id_dsa," but it is locked."... none of my passwords are unlocking it... if I press "deny" I'm still able to SSH into the remote computer via inputting my password as usual in terminal.... anyone know how to fix this?
[19:45] <crash91> Intangir: i havent tried myself, but ticking that box and trying to update should work
[19:45] <Girltalk> Sherry345: have you been performing MD5 Checksums on your installation media?
[19:45] <david_-_-_> SitUbuntuSit: you there?
[19:45] <laeg> lol SitUbuntuSit is a cool name
[19:45] <lesshaste> Xgl no longer starts at all for me in 2.6.24 (using fglrx)
[19:45] <Sherry345> Girltalk can u define what u just said?
[19:45] <LifeEscalade> JasonWoof: what do you think went wrong?
[19:45] <lesshaste> So I have no X in hardy
[19:46] <crash91> Intangir: If it starts downloading stuff, you can always pull out your network cable like i do :) maybe then it will try the CD
[19:46] <adelejjeh> i cant view arabic on amsn, can anyone help me with that?
[19:46] <lesshaste> I reported it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775475. Any ideas?
[19:46] <DeviantMIND> crash91, hook ok thanks guys i'll have to check it later, i have one more exam to finish my four yrs at university tomorrow..whoo hoo!
[19:46] <Girltalk> Sherry345: have you been making sure that the data you've been using to install over and over again is good data?
[19:46] <h00k> DeviantMIND: good luck, Congrats
[19:46] <drivetrax> mind if i log
[19:46] <adelejjeh>  i cant view arabic on amsn, can anyone help me with that?
[19:46] <crash91> DeviantMIND: Heh, lucky i have two years of school left :P
[19:46] <Sherry345> well it is live cd and i have not installed anything so its fine
[19:47] <DeviantMIND> hooks, crash91 thanks later
[19:47] <LifeEscalade> JasonWoof: just checked the md5 on the original burn i did and it wasnt a match
[19:47] <h00k> crash91, DeviantMIND, I also have 2 left after this
[19:47] <crash91> h00k: :)
[19:47] <manifest_> whats the newest grub and how to install it
[19:47] <eugman|college> Is it possible to remote in to the gui part of an ubuntu installation but without having what I'm doing be visible on the screen?
[19:47] <david_-_-_> when i use ie7 through wine to install it i get this error the second i double click on it "unable to find the volume for file extraction, please verify that you have the proper permissions" how do i fix this?
[19:47] <soundray> Sherry345: you should check the integrity of the CD. There is a boot option for that.
[19:47] <doofy_> does the partition resizer take a while to run on the install disc?
[19:47] <crash91> I have a problem with emerald, it is working but i am unable to see any themes in the window let alone install some. could someone please help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772650
[19:47] <Sherry345> i am installing it from vista
[19:48] <receptor> anyone running ubuntu 8.04 on dell dimension with raid? ubuntu shows me 2x 300gb separate disks with unallocated space rather than raid volume with 2 partitions
[19:48] <Sherry345> so i have an option to work
[19:48] <DeviantMIND> hook well, good luck with ur two yrs i cant wait to finish wanna make some money now wish i knew a way to do that over the internet via my computer in ma room
[19:48] <Sherry345> btw how to learn ubuntu
[19:48] <sparr__> since upgrading to hardy, my audio volume is much lower.  ive maxxed every control in alsamixer and it is still much lower than it used to be.  what can i try next?
[19:48] <Kejseren> How can i boot from my live-cd when i get stopped by this message: bcm43xx_microcode5.fw???
[19:48] <Scunizi> Is there a solution to a numeric keypad built into my keyboard only functioning as a mouse cursor control and not as a numeric keypad?
[19:48] <Sherry345> and it is not good as microsoft operating systems are
[19:48] <crash91> DeviantMIND: Sell off everything useless you own on eBay?
[19:48] <Girltalk> Sherry345: check out the ubuntu website and forums (absolute beginners) there's a lot of good information there
[19:48] <jsh_> jsh:
[19:48] <Sherry345> i c
[19:49] <Sherry345> are u a Girl Girltalk :P
[19:49] <Sherry345> ashle :P
[19:49] <DeviantMIND> crash91: done that
[19:49] <Vinni3> hi
[19:49] <Sherry345> Girltalk would u like to be my teacher do something gud to get heaven
[19:49] <user1982> hello I have a question about ubuntu, can i ask ?
[19:49] <crash91> Sherry345: That is an opinion of yours, i personally think its superb
[19:49] <Sherry345> hi Vinni3 how can i help u?
[19:49] <Sherry345> crash91 how?
[19:49] <soundray> user1982: go ahead
[19:49] <Vinni3> i was just wondering where ubuntu sends its cds from
[19:50] <DeviantMIND> crash91 wasnt ebay though, anyone know where i can get cellphones cheap, new ones
[19:50] <Sherry345> Vinni3 well on get ubuntu page u have to orker it they send it from natherland i think by shipping
[19:50] <crash91> Sherry345: Compiz-fusion, its FREE, and you have tons and tons of customisability and a very user-friendly community
[19:50] <crash91> those are my main reasons
[19:50] <user1982> yeah I want to knaow how to restard my sound card (driver or deamon or server )
[19:50] <Intangir> the only problem with #ubuntu, and the ubuntu forums, is theres like a BILLION people on both, most of them are asking questions, and few are answering any
[19:50] <Vinni3> thanks. shouldnt take awhile to send it to the uk :)
[19:51] <eugman|college> Does anyone know if it's possible to have multiple users vnc or something similar to computer just like you can with ssh?
[19:51] <user1982> because i have a problem right now
[19:51] <platyhelminth> !paste
[19:51] <bullgard1> angasule: Thank you for explaining. --  Mind your language though.
[19:51] <soundray> Intangir: and you're just adding noise. Please discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:51] <crash91> user1982: Restart your computer? Instead of digging up some obscure command, its easier to do that :)
[19:51] <Sherry345> Vinni3 ahan it will come tomorrow b4 newspaper, try it :P
[19:51] <Sherry345> crash91 same here
[19:51] <soundray> !sound | user1982
[19:51] <danbhfive> eugman|college: I think it is.  It used to be.  Its been awhile since I used vnc
[19:52] <Vinni3> one more thing: would ubuntu run on a 10+ year old p3 box?
[19:52] <pygmymath> yep
[19:52] <Intangir> Vinni3: ya
[19:52] <david_-_-_> when i use ie7 through wine to install it i get this error the second i double click on it "unable to find the volume for file extraction, please verify that you have the proper permissions" how do i fix this?
[19:52] <Vinni3> good.
[19:52] <Sherry345> Vinni3 exactly it is also for trash pc's
[19:52] <crash91> Vinni3: Ive run 7.04 on my Pentium Two :) so yes
[19:52] <user1982> it's a crash in sound
[19:52] <soundray> Vinni3: it needs plenty of memory though
[19:52] <pygmymath> Vinni3: 7.10 running on a 800mhz p3 tablet with 256 meg of ram
[19:52] <DJones> Vinni3: I use a PIII 733mhz as a file server
[19:52] <Vinni3> 128?
[19:52] <Sherry345> try it u will love to line in 21st century then
[19:52] <pygmymath> Vinni3: 7.10 running on a 800mhz p3 tablet with 500 meg of ram shared i mean
[19:52] <Sherry345> u can even run it on 64
[19:52] <user1982> it works but somtime crash wiht  ugly sounds
[19:52] <Vinni3> :/
[19:53] <soundray> Vinni3: if it has 128MB, I would upgrade. Or install xubuntu or server.
[19:53] <danbhfive> Vinni3: I dont think it will run on 128mgs of ram
[19:53] <jaffarkelshac> david_-_-_, why are you using ie7
[19:53] <Intangir> ive been running ubuntu on a p3 933 mhz
[19:53] <DJones> Vinni3: 128 could be a bit tight though, maybe try xubuntu
[19:53] <crash91> Vinni3: Although if you need it to be more fast then xubuntu
[19:53] <Intangir> for..
[19:53] <user1982> i dnt want to restard my computer :/
[19:53] <DJones> !xubuntu | Vinni3
[19:53] <Intangir> Host 'Ultros', running Linux 2.6.15-27-686 - Cpu0: Pentium III 931 MHz; Up: 542d+6:30; Users: 2; Load: 0.00; Free: [Mem: 3/250 Mio] [Swap: 179/729 Mio] [/: 147097/299735 Mio] [/mnt/backup: 6499/75118 Mio]; Vpenis: 73.9 cm;
[19:53] <AzizLight> how can I make sure my fans work properly?
[19:53] <angasule> eugman|college: yes, of course, linux can do pretty much anything over the network
[19:53] <IdleOne> !ot | Intangir
[19:53] <crash91> Ive ran 7.04 on my P2 with 128MB RAM without much lag.
[19:53] <Vinni3> yeah. i think it will be a nice file server, backup and firewall
[19:53] <AzizLight> I am using a macbook pro and when I'm using ubuntu it becomes very very hot fast
[19:53] <david_-_-_> jaffarkelshac: some plug ins on the 64 bit i am using will not work like shockwave player and certain javas for yahoo pool
[19:53] <crash91> Of course desktop effects and such are a no-no
[19:54] <ubud> what program is good for drawing block diagram or a group pc network together
[19:54] <Vinni3> yeah
[19:54] <sparr__> ubud: kivio
[19:54] <Girltalk> Azizlight: that is simply a design element of the macbook pro (aka awful ventilation)
[19:55] <ubud> sparr_: does it have diagram of computer?
[19:55] <Vinni3> sony laptops do the same. shame actually, because they are quite nice
[19:55] <soundray> AzizLight: does it get hotter than when you run OS X?
[19:56] <AzizLight> Girltalk: yeah I know it gets hot but when I use ubuntu it gets even hotter (like hd 42 degres and cpu 70degres) it never gets that hot when I'm using mac os x
[19:56] <soundray> AzizLight: which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[19:56] <AzizLight> hardy
[19:56] <arooni__> hey team!  if i have a gutsy laptop (lenovo t61)... 1) is it safe to upgrade to hardy?  2) is it the right time to do that (in terms of traffic and trying to get the upgrade via the cool built in UI in gutsy)?  3) if its ok to go... how do i start running it?  how long will it take?
[19:56] <yassine> hi everyone
[19:57] <Girltalk> arooni__: you have a lot of questions that can be answered on the website FAQ. Check it out :)
[19:57] <danbhfive> arooni__: I'm personally waiting, but if you are ready, update-manager -d
[19:57] <soundray> AzizLight: one thing you might do is to look at the installation reports available through tuxmobil.org and see if others have tweaked their Macbooks for cooler running.
[19:57] <Vinni3> xbuntu room seems a bit quiet. might google it anyway
[19:57] <laeg> hello irish
[19:57] <yassine> short question where do i activate the compiz cube i have everything else working (window animations etc) only the cube is in not active
[19:57] <arooni-mobile> danbhfive, what are you waiting for?
[19:58] <Girltalk> arooni__: I run hardy on my x-series lenovo, and it works like a charm.
[19:58] <laeg> yassine: #compiz
[19:58] <DJones> arooni__: I've done 5 upgrades via update manager, just use Update Manager from System Administration and there should be an option for a distriution upgrade, its taken anywhere from 1-3 hours depending on the machine
[19:58] <soundray> Girltalk: X300?
[19:58] <yassine> join #compiz
[19:58] <laeg> no you join #compiz :)
[19:58] <crash91> I have a problem with emerald, it is working but i am unable to see any themes in the window let alone install some. could someone please help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772650
[19:58] <svl> once more, hoping someone knows: something is preventing the use of the shortcut keys: win-L, win-F e.a. for assigning to actions in the system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts dialog. (They get assigned, but have no effect.) Does _anyone_ know how/where I can make this work / find out _what_ is preventing the action from happening?
[19:58] <AzizLight> soundray: thanks I will check that
[19:59] <arooni-mobile> Girltalk, did you upgrade?
[19:59] <nibsa1242b> arooni__ I've done two successful updates, both took about 3 hours from start to finish; and both went perfectly smooth
[19:59] <manifest_> whats the newest grub on the market?
[19:59] <AzizLight> soundray: but if the heat is not dangerous for the mac I don't really care, I just don't want the thing to burn on my lap lol
[19:59] <Girltalk> soundray: just a standard x61 for work.
[19:59] <LifeEscalade> when i run the install for the server iso, it stops at retrieving binutils-static-udeb.... is there anything i did wrong?
[19:59] <LSG> crash91: See themes? You mean in the Emerald Themer window?
[19:59] <Malbojia> Good afternoon, I need some help on migrating my samba install from debian sid to ubuntu 8.04
[19:59] <arooni-mobile> Girltalk, but did you upgrade from gutsy
[19:59] <Girltalk> arooni-mobile: i had some upgrade issues, so i decided to go with a fresh install.
[19:59] <at0mix> how do i make use restricted drivers show up? after upgrade to 8.04
[19:59] <arooni-mobile> Girltalk, what kinds of issues
[20:00] <crash91> LSG: yes, its blank, look at the screenshot in the thread
[20:00] <Salvationist> hello
[20:00] <laeg> do i need to doing anything like installing drivers for my nic other than inputting my ip addresses? my internet works but dev of several bittorrent clients are having a hard time explaining my QoS
[20:00] <Salvationist> i have a little question
[20:00] <soundray> AzizLight: if it gets much hotter than under OS X, I would worry a bit.
[20:00] <nibsa1242b> AzizLight: I doubt the heat is terribly dangerous for the processor. I don't know what the specs are on your particular processor in that machine. However, I know my AMD Turion processor is rated for 95C before failure.
[20:00] <danbhfive> arooni__: well, there were a few bugs that worried me.  Nvidia bugs, sudo bug, a bug with ndiswrapper?  There were even bugs in the beta with regard to the hd format program.  Apparently, the official fix was delayed, and it was going to be a release note.  Another turn off for me.  I treasure a good working disk partitioner
[20:00] <LifeEscalade> when i run the install for the server iso, it stops at retrieving binutils-static-udeb.... is there anything i did wrong?
[20:00] <crash91> LSG:I even did the svn command to fetch all the emerald themes from the repo.
[20:00] <Girltalk> arooni-mobile: Wireless card recognition, and some very very long hangups during the update process.
[20:01] <soundray> AzizLight: does it scale the frequency down when the load is low?
[20:01] <sharperguy> Is it just me, or did pulseaudio cause more problems than is solved?
[20:01] <arooni-mobile> oh noes
[20:01] <nibsa1242b> AzizLight: I would possibly worry about HD temp
[20:01] <pygmymath> danbhfive: running a 9600gt now, sexy like.
[20:01] <Vinni3> Wubi any good? might give it a shot
[20:01] <Salvationist> how can i append a folder from the desktop to the Internet menu item of the Applications menu?
[20:01] <LSG> crash91: Same thing happened to me. You can download some from Gnome-look and the like, or make your own.
[20:02] <pygmymath> getting boatedddd
[20:02] <arooni-mobile> danbhfive, so later is there going to be a supplmental release that i shoudl consier
[20:02] <arooni-mobile> consider
[20:02] <AzizLight> soundray: what do you mean? you mean does it lag more when it gets hot?
[20:02] <crash91> LSG: they refuse to import into the manager.
[20:02] <LSG> crash91: I was, however, able to install some themes through the terminal,  i just can't remember exactly what i did.
[20:02] <Salvationist> is that possible?
[20:02] <Vlet> Salvationist: the gnome menu isn't based on folders, so you would need to use the menu editor to create whatever items you want added manually
[20:02] <LSG> crash91: How did you install Emerald?
[20:02] <AzizLight> nibsa1242b: hoe can I verify what is the max temperature the hd/cpu should get?
[20:02] <Leonidas_> anyone try Xubuntu?
[20:02] <crash91> LSG: Synaptic
[20:02] <danbhfive> arooni-mobile: I don't think so, but bug fixes will probably be released over time
[20:03] <soundray> AzizLight: no, I mean does it reduce the core frequency? Intel calls this SpeedStep. You can monitor the frequency with a panel applet.
[20:03] <Vadi> I'm trying to copy some hidden folders from another drive that I backed them up to, and it keeps saying permission denied. I've already tried it in gksudo nautilus and it's the same thing. Can anyone help?
[20:03] <Salvationist> Vlet, i have an FTP foledr on the desktop that i would like to add to the menu item Internet
[20:03] <Salvationist> *folder
[20:03] <LSG> crash91: You mean Add/Remove? I don't see it there
[20:03] <AzizLight> soundray: i don't know, I'm using osx right now
[20:04] <AzizLight> I will check it next time I log on ubuntu tho
[20:04] <crash91> LSG: No, System>Administration>Synaptic Package manager
[20:04] <nibsa1242b> AzizLight: you need to know the exact processor model # and look it up on the manufacturer's website -- most laptop hds are somewhere between 50-65C, and processors are somewhere between 75-95C if relatively modern equipment
[20:04] <Leonidas_> anyone know how to change ubuntu to xubuntu?  is it even worth changing?  or should i just reinstall?
[20:04] <hwilde> !xubuntu | Leonidas_
[20:04] <LSG> crash91: Oh...well i installed it through the terminal and i worked perfectly
[20:04] <hwilde> Leonidas_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <soundray> Leonidas_: you can do a 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'. After that, you can choose a Xubuntu session at the gdm login screen.
[20:05] <Vinni3>  nibsa1242b: 95C?
[20:05] <Vadi> How can I copy a folder from another drive onto my main one with the proper permissions?
[20:05] <crash91> LSG: Well ill try that later, thanks maybe if i try thru terminal itll work.
[20:05] <nibsa1242b> Vinni3: yes, 95 degrees Celsius
[20:05] <Leonidas_> hwilde ok great.  the problem that i have had with that before is that both desktops seem to get confused
[20:05] <Vlet> Salvationist: yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't do that.
[20:05] <LSG> crash91: Try uninstalling it, and in a terminal type sudo aptitude install emerald
[20:05] <Salvationist> Vlet, hmmm
[20:05] <Vinni3> blooming heck.
[20:05] <Salvationist> Vlet, too bad
[20:05] <ubud> how to tell I am using 64bit ubuntu?
[20:06] <soundray> ubud: enter 'uname -a'
[20:06] <Vooloo> anyone tried ubuntu on macbook pro?
[20:06] <AzizLight> nixternal , soundray : thanks for your help guys
[20:06] <Salvationist> Vlet, can i at least add that folder to the panel as a qiick launch item?
[20:06] <Leonidas_> soundtray i'm on a sempron 3500 with 1 GB of RAM and shared video, X seems to crash quite a bit.  I'm running 8.04.
[20:06] <soundray> ubud: it'll say either i686 or x86_64
[20:06] <loufoque> what's the command to download all packages necessary to compile a given package?
[20:06] <AzizLight> isn't there a way to manually change the speed of the fans?
[20:07] <Leonidas_> soundtray i just wonder with something lighter like xfce if this will help out
[20:07] <Vinni3> fan controller?
[20:07] <danbhfive> loufoque: build-essentials maybe
[20:07] <soundray> Leonidas_: I don't think so. Your machine is more than adequate for gnome.
[20:07] <stefg> loufoque: sudo apt-get build-dep
[20:07] <Salvationist> Vlet, i can't even rename that folder which bugs me
[20:07] <loufoque> thanks.
[20:07] <loufoque> stefg
[20:07] <Vlet> Salvationist: you shoudl be able to. right click on the desktop item and copyu it's properties into the new menu item
[20:07] <Leonidas_> soundtray, that's what i though as well, it runs very clunky though
[20:07] <soundray> Leonidas_: if it was my machine, I'd run memtest86 overnight to see if the RAM is faulty.
[20:08] <mysterycool> hey
[20:08] <Leonidas_> soundtray, yeah that's a good idea
[20:08] <mysterycool> what are the differences between ubuntu 8.04 and gutsy?
[20:08] <Leonidas_> soundtray i may do that
[20:08] <soundray> Leonidas_: also check temperatures (acpi -V) and CPU frequency
[20:08] <mooselix> Good day, #ubuntu.
[20:08] <Leonidas_> soundtray ok let me try that
[20:08] <Vadi> How can I get permissions to my own folders so I can copy them?
[20:09] <Leonidas_> soundtray 48 C
[20:09] <mysterycool> Is ubuntu 8.04 ubuntu hardy?
[20:09] <stefg> !hardy
[20:09] <h00k> mysterycool: yep
[20:09] <mysterycool> lol k XD
[20:09] <mysterycool> !torrents
[20:09] <Vlet> mysterycool: http://www.fsckin.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-release-notes-rewritten-in-plain-english/
[20:09] <mysterycool> are there any differences in the gui design?
[20:09] <ubud> any theme manager for hardy?
[20:10] <mysterycool> i mean, does the design look different?
[20:10] <Vlet> mysterycool: some
[20:10] <h00k> mysterycool: some
[20:10] <h00k> ha.
[20:10] <Vlet> ;)
[20:10] <h00k> ^.^
[20:10] <minerale> Ubuntuy can't play DRM music correct? I'm trying to convinvce a friend not to buy drm'ed music, Is there a list of all the DRM providers going down (like MSN) ?
[20:10] <FloodBot2> h00k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <mysterycool> but major ones?
[20:10] <white_eagle> hello, to everyone which I demanded help, the problem I had is fixed
[20:10] <white_eagle> without reinstalling
[20:10] <h00k> mysterycool: it's still using gnome as it's GDM
[20:10] <nibsa1242b> Vinni3: Tdie max for a Turion 64 is 95 degrees C; those little buggers can handle some heat
[20:11] <rodolfo> hi all! anyone here know where is FF3B5's default TEMP folder located at? Ubuntu8.04 here.
[20:11] <Salvationist> Vlet, i have troubles here
[20:11] <mysterycool> hmm k
[20:11] <Vinni3> nibsa1242b: man, i wonder if my laptop would melt
[20:11] <Salvationist> which properties exactly?
[20:11] <sbga> i just attempted to install ubuntu and it froze at the end, now windows gives me a blue screen at booting and then restarts. is there any way to save or am I going to have to re install it
[20:11] <Judeglass> not if it's a macbook pro
[20:11] <mysterycool> btw, do u know if ubuntu will ever switch from gnome and use another windows manager?
[20:12] <h00k> mysterycool: !kubuntu
[20:12] <ubud> do I really need to use the restricted graphics card driver?
[20:12] <Vinni3> sbga: Wubi?
[20:12] <Vadi> ﻿mysterycool: kubuntu, xubuntu use different window managers
[20:12] <h00k> !kubuntu | mysterycool
[20:12] <Vadi> ﻿mysterycool: or you can get another one yourself easily
[20:12] <Girltalk> Vinni3: the mac approach to cooling solutions is making computers out of stuff that can get really hot.
[20:12] <mysterycool> sbga: when windows pops up a blue screen, it means that windows are dead
[20:12] <Vlet> Salvationist: I'm not the only one that can help. Ask whatever questions you have and if anyone knows the answer, they'll say :)
[20:12] <nibsa1242b> Vinni3: the rest of it probably wouldn't be able to handle those kinds of temps... the Turion X2 family has a Case max temp in the 70s
[20:12] <Leonidas_> soundtray i guess i really don't know what else to do.  I update and everything.  ONe thing though.  after GRUB loads and Ubuntu starts the boot-up process, I have a fast BIOS error flash on the screen, and then the Ubuntu loading window pops up
[20:12] <lbrt> what is better.. retricted drivers or install manually from a deb file? :/
[20:12] <Salvationist> Vlet, yeah but you know what i need to know so...
[20:12] <Leonidas_> and everything boots normally
[20:12] <cpt> hi there 8.04 crashes into busybox may be IO error during sata drive detection what to do
[20:12] <Salvationist> pleeease be more specifiv
[20:12] <soundray> Girltalk: yeah -- my last Mac melted down to the planet's core
[20:12] <mysterycool> yes, ive heard of kubuntu but i was just wondering if ubuntu will switch from gnome?
[20:12] <danbhfive> lbrt: restricted drivers
[20:13] <Vinni3> Girltalk: sony does the same. they look good, but are hot as hell
[20:13] <Salvationist> *specific
[20:13] <xoob> hi, if I remaster the livecd and install the nvidia driver to it - how do I make the livecd use this driver at boot?
[20:13] <mysterycool> like, stop using gnome
[20:13] <lbrt> danbhfive opengl works fine?
[20:13] <tom____> hi could someone help me i installed the my wireless drivers using ndiswrapper but how do i get wep it just freezes when i press it on the menu
[20:13] <frenzy> ubuntu will always use gnome
[20:13] <mysterycool> hmm k
[20:13] <Judeglass> i have to say, my macbook pro is the coolest mac laptop i've ever used
[20:13] <Vinni3> nibsa1242b: the air coming from the back feels like it could cook anything. laptop cooling will never get better
[20:14] <Vlet> Salvationist: honestly, it's hard for me to be. I'm on a mac at the moment... I mostly use ubuntu server... desktop at home :)
[20:14] <evand> sbga: Use the Recovery Console (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058) and run chkdsk c: /f /r
[20:14] <Salvationist> Vlet, do i have to create a new ITEM or a new MENU in the 'Main Menu' settings window?
[20:14] <slashzul> what packages would I need to change a ubuntu 10 server to desktop?
[20:14] <mysterycool> btw, if i start downloading ubuntu hardy via the update manager, will i still be able to do stuff on my computer or would i have to wait till the download finishes? :S
[20:14] <austinite> mysterycool: also xubuntu.
[20:14] <DBautell> !java > DBautell
[20:14] <danbhfive> lbrt: I dont think I can answer that question, but I can explain my answer: the restricted drivers manager installs the .deb, and does additional setup.  So, they are close, the manager just does a little more
[20:14] <Judeglass> 45nm Penryn was a able to help out with heat a lot
[20:14] <juanmabc> hello, what could be the reason for "apt" to be "waiting for headers" a long time?
[20:14] <soundray> slashzul: ubuntu 10 -- do you mean 7.10?
[20:14] <Vinni3> sbga: does it boot then bsod?
[20:14] <Vlet> Salvationist: you want to create an item
[20:14] <zeld> hi to all..
[20:14] <zeld> i've a little proble...
[20:14] <slashzul> soundray: yes 7.10
[20:15] <Vlet> Salvationist: all it takes is some experimentation and exploration to figure it out.
[20:15] <soundray> slashzul: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[20:15] <stefg> juanmabc: overloaded local mirror
[20:15] <Salvationist> Vlet, also... what type of the item do i have to choose?
[20:15] <soundray> slashzul: mind you, that's a fairly big operation
[20:15] <hamled> is there a way to have the bash shell tell me the full path of a file that it finds by going over $PATH? (IE give me '/bin/ls' for 'ls')
[20:15] <tom____> how do i get wep to work it just freezes when i press ok then i have to reboot and it puts the settings back to what they where
[20:15] <zeld> ok notthing
[20:15] <zeld> :-D
[20:15] <h00k> mysterycool: yes, you'll still be able to do stuff while it upgrads
[20:15] <pygmymath> mysterycool: that's what Kubuntu is
[20:15] <Salvationist> Vlet, Application or Application in Terminal or Location?
[20:15] <ToddEDM> where is the torrent to download hardy?
[20:15] <slashzul> freenx for 7.10 edgy doesnt exist. Anyother way to remote desktop to it?
[20:15] <mysterycool> k  thanks guys! ;) =]
[20:16] <ToddEDM> !download
[20:16] <Vinni3> !torrent
[20:16] <ToddEDM> !hardy
[20:16] <echelon> question for all of you all
[20:16] <echelon> i'm having a hard time coming out of suspend
[20:16] <echelon> on a laptop
[20:16] <Salvationist> what is the location of the desktop in ubuntu?
[20:16] <echelon> if i leave it there for over 20 minutes i can't get anything, no screen, and i have to hard reboot to get anything
[20:17] <white_eagle> where is screen and devices in hardy?
[20:17] <white_eagle> I think it was in administration in gutsy
[20:17] <Vlet> Salvationist: /home/yourusername/Desktop
[20:17] <Girltalk> echelon: lots of people seem to be having power management issues. what kind of laptop?
[20:17] <MrObvious> !java
[20:17] <Salvationist> aha ok
[20:17] <echelon> hp pavilion dv9000 series
[20:17] <echelon> running hardy
[20:17] <slashzul> freenx for 7.10 edgy doesnt exist. Anyother way to remote desktop to it?
[20:17] <cpt> *8.04 install crash* 8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd ) | *plz help*
[20:18] <white_eagle> nevermind
[20:18] <white_eagle> bye
[20:18] <tem> who would i talk with for support related questinos
[20:18] <pygmymath> tem: the room in general
[20:18] <charlie> Hi all- I have a(nother) problem with my Hardy install- all was working well until today, when the restricted drivers suddenly disappeared.  They had been present for my ATi graphics and a new Atheros wifi card.
[20:18] <charlie>  Now in the restricted drivers window, there's nothing there at all- how can I get them back?
[20:18] <mysterycool> ive been checking around ubuntu's web and it says somewhere "If you want to learn, you can find a mentor within the development team to help you along."
[20:18] <DJones> tem: Just ask your question in the channel
[20:18] <mysterycool> where can i find that mentor?
[20:19] <tem> free install of 8.04
[20:19] <Vlet> tem: Ask away - anyone can try to answer.
[20:19] <tem> fresh*
[20:19] <tem> mouse will occasionally freeze but freeing back up
[20:19] <tem> till eventually
[20:19] <Vlet> !enter | tem
[20:19] <manifest_> does grub support vista, fi it does, how to install latest version?
[20:19] <tem> caps and scroll lock blink
[20:19] <tem> oh
[20:19] <tem> 10-4
[20:20] <Girltalk> echelon: check out this link on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725044&page=2 you should be able to find relevant links from there
[20:20] <soundray> Please remind me: what's the name of the no-frills browser that comes with gnome?
[20:20] <h00k> soundray: ...firefox?
[20:20] <h00k> soundray:  or Nautilus
[20:20] <cpt> cant beleive this
[20:20] <echelon> thanks Girltalk
[20:20] <soundray> h00k: firefox is the frilly one. Nautilus for web pages?
[20:20] <tem> Fresh install of 8.04 and the mouse occasionally 'studder' then eventually and randomly the caps lock and scroll lock will blink and the enter OS freezes.  Whats going on?
[20:21] <h00k> soundray: ah, web browser - ok
[20:21] <danbhfive> soundray: kahekasi?
[20:21] <Girltalk> soundray: watch it, i'm a firefox dev =D
[20:21] <danbhfive> soundray: that may be spelled wrong
[20:21] <soundray> Girltalk: :)  Is frilly such a bad description?
[20:21] <soundray> I meant epiphany
[20:21] <cpt> 8.04 oh its not even installing here on amd athelon 3500 asus a8v-vm
[20:22] <tom____> anyone no how to set up wep on ndiswrapper?
[20:22] <Vlet> tem: are you using WEP encrypted wireless?
[20:22] <echelon> Girltalk: just fyi
[20:22] <danbhfive> tom____: I think setting up wep is separate from ndiswrapper.  you could try using iwconfig
[20:22] <echelon> i'm running kubuntu 8.04
[20:22] <hamled> So the sun closed-source java implementation is not quite the same as openjdk?
[20:22] <tom____> ok
[20:23] <cpt> *8.04 install crash* 8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd ) | *plz help*
[20:23]  * Vlet hugs Girltalk 
[20:23] <m3ltd0wn123> I reset my password to random, and copied it to file, but that file got lost, and i cant remember password.. I am currently logged in, but I cant change password or view password, any ideas?
[20:23] <danbhfive> cpt why cant you start over?
[20:23] <h00k> m3ltd0wn123: boot into recovery-mode
[20:23] <slashzul> freenx for 7.10 edgy doesnt exist. Anyother way to remote desktop to it?
[20:23] <Girltalk> !kubuntu | echelon
[20:24] <hyjal> Is it at all possible for a windows app to access files outside of ~/.wine ?
[20:24] <tem> Fresh install of 8.04 and the mouse occasionally 'studder' then eventually and randomly the caps lock and scroll lock will blink and the enter OS freezes.  Whats going on?
[20:24] <Toznoshio> slashzul: x11vnc
[20:24] <jaffarkelshac> it can hydrogen
[20:24] <Pici> hyjal: iirc, F: in wine is /  don't quote me on that though
[20:24] <cpt> start over i didnt event started gusty
[20:24] <Vlet> hyjal: put a symlink into the directory that wine can access perhaps?
[20:24] <soundray> m3ltd0wn123: boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd yourusername' to reset it.
[20:25] <cpt> danbhfive i cant install 8.04
[20:25] <Vlet> tem: are you using WEP encrypted wireless by chance?
[20:25] <Vinni3>  
[20:25] <h00k> m3ltd0wn123: then type passwd 'username' to reset it
[20:25] <Jester1960> yes
[20:25] <tem> vl: no, MAC filtering
[20:25] <danbhfive> cpt: can you start the install over?
[20:25] <mooselix> Anyone else have problems with the CPU fan? Mine doesn't spin at full speed when the CPU gets hot. Got a ticket on launchpad #224876.
[20:25] <hyjal> Pici, Vlet: I see, thanks. I was wondering from a security standpoint if harmful windows apps could ruin my home folder. I guess they can =)
[20:26] <Pici> hyjal: Only if you run them as root
[20:26] <Pici> hyjal: er, scratch that.
[20:26] <MrBill> I'm having issues with FireFox 3 beta 5 freezing up on me since I've upgraded to Hardy. Has anyone else run into anything along these lines?
[20:26] <Girltalk> >_> yes
[20:27] <tom____> can i configure my wireless card to access a network if the ssid is not being broadcast?
[20:27] <cpt> danbhfive i am trying it since last night when i remove the quite it stops on file system and on text mode it stop and say some of IO error
[20:28] <scott> seahorse is killing Xgl for some reason
[20:28] <tem> channel: another problem I have is with the video and the dreaded "pink shadows".  In reading this seems to be a problem with the nvidia driver 169.12 with the nvidia-utils.  Is this correct?
[20:28] <dimitree> o//
[20:28] <manifest_> WILL SOMEONE TELL ME THE GRUBS LATEST VERSION AND HOW TO INSTALL IT
[20:28] <danbhfive> cpt: so you are running into the same problem on repeated attempts to install?
[20:28] <scott> I upgraded to hardy, and now Xgl crashes every time I start it, I have to start gnome in "safe" mode.  The error in my .xsession-errors is regarding seahorse-agent
[20:29] <mooselix> Please don't shout.
[20:29] <scott> Run '/usr/bin/seahorse-agent --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[20:29] <h00k> manifest_: please don't shout
[20:29] <Vlet> manifest_: can't you check for yourself using apt?
[20:29] <pa> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776192   -  any hint?
[20:29] <cpt> danbhfive yap even it goes into the busybox even when i check the cd/dvd for defects
[20:30] <h00k> cpt: you have the correct architecture CD?
[20:30] <mooselix> manifest_: Please look at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ or google 'grub'
[20:30] <soundray> manifest_: a newer grub version is not likely to fix your problem, whatever it is.
[20:31] <pteague> anybody have any idea why i'm getting 2 popups when i insert a cd or dvd?
[20:31] <manifest_> soundray: cant see vista in the list
[20:31] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window
[20:31] <cpt> hook its says its i386 and i am on  ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd )
[20:31] <soundray> manifest_: arrgh
[20:31] <fiXXXerMet> How can I convert a .avi file to a .wmv file?
[20:31] <Sylphid|work> any tips?
[20:32] <Vlet> manifest_: installing a new version won't help; you'll have to update your list file to include it
[20:32] <manifest_> soundray: sorry, not too good in these things
[20:32] <mooselix> manifest_: You'll need to add vista to the grub.conf file. Grub may not support booting vista.
[20:32] <soundray> manifest_: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add an entry for booting Windows. There is a sample starting at line 13. Copy it to the end of the file and uncomment.
[20:32] <andronicus> is there an easy way to make nvidia-settings run as an administrative task from the user interface?
[20:33] <soundray> manifest_: if you need help, run 'cat /boot/grub/menu.lst ; sudo fdisk -l' and copy all the output to a pastebin.
[20:33] <MrObvious> !java
[20:33] <ror> upgrading to hardy has hosed my system! loads of stuff is crashing and my NVIDIA drivers have broken
[20:33] <mooselix> manifest_: Correction: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:33] <ror> and I get application crash messages popping up every second AND somehow on the US keyboard map :<
[20:34] <suxxor> trying to install GNU debugger it shows me the next error  http://pastebin.ca/1003201 somebody to help me ?
[20:34] <Sylphid|work> here is my /etc/interfaces   http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[20:34] <andronicus> is there an easy way to make nvidia-settings run as an administrative task from the user interface?
[20:35] <ror> how do I get my system back?
[20:35] <danbhfive> ror: random suggestion: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ && sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[20:35] <ror> it's shafted :(
[20:35] <mooselix> My CPU fan's not working correctly. Anyone have any insight into ACPI or thinkpad_acpi?
[20:35] <cpt> *8.04 install crash* 8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do ( amd athlon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata+ata+sony dvd ) | (by i386 DVD) *plz help*
[20:35] <ror> thanks :/
[20:35] <suxxor> trying to install GNU debugger it shows me the next error  http://pastebin.ca/1003201 somebody to help me ?
[20:35] <danbhfive> ror: let me know if there are error messages
[20:35] <Vlet> andronicus: if you prepend 'gksudo' to a launcher action, that'll run it with admin privs
[20:36] <Girltalk> mooselix: i run hardy on an x61 lenovo thinkpad. the acpi seems to be working fine
[20:36] <ror> danbhfive, both OK'd it, nothing to install
[20:36] <ror> running apt-get update and upgrade now
[20:36] <Yoni> Where can I configure manually my screens & monitors in the configuration files?
[20:36] <Yoni> I ca'nt find those settins on xserver.org file
[20:36] <danbhfive> ror: did you include the ^?  just checking
[20:37] <h00k> Yoni: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:37] <ror> oh, no, assumed typo :p
[20:37] <danbhfive> ror: hehe, people always do  :p
[20:37] <ror> apt-get upgrade found a ton of stuff to upgrade so doing that now
[20:37] <cpt> *8.04 install crash* 8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do. tried many times and tried all the option including text/safe graphic/oem/noacpi ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd ) | *plz help*
[20:37] <Yoni> h00k, nothing shown there about resolutions..
[20:37] <andronicus> Vlet: how do you add it to the launcher action?
[20:37] <ror> would I have lost my non-free NVIDIA drivers in the upgrade to hardy?
[20:37] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[20:37] <davidek> Hi! Does anybody here know where the new 'world time clock' in Hardy gets the weather data from? What is the source?
[20:37] <h00k> Yoni: what do you have for a graphics card?
[20:37] <ng0n> point me in the right direction -> wanna run Ubuntu inside a window on VISTA
[20:37] <fiXXXerMet> How can I convert a .iso file to a .wmv file?
[20:38] <ror> p.s. it's SO fast not using compiz! but I miss the alt-tab stuff :(
[20:38] <Yoni> Intel I945 or 915 I don't remmember...
[20:38] <h00k> fiXXXerMet: a .ISO is an image of a CD or DVD
[20:38] <weaseal> fiXXXerMet, try dvdshrink ?
[20:38] <soundray> mooselix: have a look at tuxmobil.org for installation reports on your laptop model. Maybe others have had or even solved that issue.
[20:38] <piege> hi, i'm having trouble connecting to a vista share folder on another pc from my ubuntu 8.04 can anyone help me
[20:38] <fiXXXerMet> It's a dvd iso
[20:38] <Yoni> Its working gr8 on my laptop monitor 1440x900 but on my Toshiba it's working on resolution 5xx X 756.. something like that..
[20:38] <ror> what's weird is the xorg config manager didn't like whatever I specified as my video card, in the end I just ignored it so I'm on 800x600 :<
[20:38] <Berengal> I need help: I tried installing ubuntu in a dual boot with Vista, but whenever I try to start the machine grub throws an error 25
[20:38] <Gringo_> can someone help me out with asound,conf
[20:38] <weaseal> errr fiXXXerMet i meant autogk
[20:38] <ror> it didn't like nv or nvidia specified as driver
[20:38] <Gringo_> ?
[20:39] <ng0n> open iso with PowerIso in windows.
[20:39] <adelejjeh> guyz i dunno what happened, i restarted ubuntu after configuring the graphic card, suddenly it wont boot anymore... it freezes at the welcome screen... any suggestions?
[20:39] <Berengal> Some help restoring the mbr would be nice, as I have no idea how to do that. The machine I'm on right now is too crappy to troubleshoot properly
[20:39] <mojo> piege::  have you tried smb://192.168.1.2/ or whatever the computer's LAN IP is instead of it's name or just "browsing" to find it?
[20:39] <ng0n> don't know how to do it in Ubuntu
[20:39] <ror> just mount the iso with mount
[20:39] <ng0n> tnx ror
[20:39] <Gringo_> what device does pulseaudio output to (alsa pcm device)?
[20:39] <dimitree> how can i install fgl_glxgears ?
[20:40] <ror> mount -o loop or something? I don't remember details ask someone else
[20:40] <mojo> Gringo_::  usually hw:0.0
[20:40] <ror> maybe it's mount -t?
[20:40] <echelon> it's saying that i should update my kernel?
[20:40] <Necrodrako> Hello, im using 8.04, i cant get alsa to set to the correct card, and when i try to run 'alsamixer' i get this error 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'
[20:40] <adelejjeh> guyz i dunno what happened, i restarted ubuntu after configuring the graphic card, suddenly it wont boot anymore... it freezes at the welcome screen... any suggestions?
[20:40] <mojo> Gringo_::  i had to change mine to hw:1.0 so it would use my audig2 instead of the motherboard sound hardware
[20:41] <cpt> *8.04 install crash* 8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do. tried many times and tried all the option including text/safe graphic/oem/noacpi ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd using ubuntu 8.04 i386 DVD ) | *plz help* should i need some driver cd or what ??
[20:41] <Gringo_> mojo: the problem is my USB audio codec. For jitter-free playback I had to enlarge the buffer in asound.conf
[20:41] <Gringo_> mojo: i can't seem to find how to do that anymore
[20:42] <cpt> sorry all is there some specific **ubuntu 8.04 channel**
[20:42] <LjL> no
[20:42] <cpt> sorry all is there some specific *ubuntu 8.04 channel*
[20:42] <mojo> adelejjeh::  did you make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf before you monkeyed with it all?
[20:42] <squid0> hi. just installed hardy, and pulseaudio wasn't installed. I just installed the packages via synaptic, but I'm not sure how to set it up. Can someone help please?
[20:42] <Girltalk> adelejjeh, i need to know more specifics about your hardware
[20:42] <Gringo_> the docs on the official alsa page appear to be wrong, even in the simplest of examples
[20:42] <Gringo_> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Aliases
[20:42] <mojo> Gringo_::  no experience here with usb audio devices
[20:43] <tesseracter> RAWR! firebug on FF3b5?
[20:43] <adelejjeh> no.. and i dint monkey... i just used the manager in ubuntu to enalbe my nvidea graphic card...
[20:43] <h00k> tesseracter: I have it working
[20:43] <adelejjeh> it said i needed to restart
[20:43] <h00k> tesseracter: there's a beta version, also ySlow works
[20:43] <tesseracter> h00k, what version?
[20:43] <adelejjeh> suddenly it freezed
[20:43] <piege> anyone can connect to a vista box from ubuntu? I'm helpless ...
[20:43] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you used some tool to reconfigure x, look in /etc/X11 and see if there are backup files like xorg.conf.backup or some such
[20:43] <Necrodrako> Hello, im using 8.04, i cant get alsa to set to the correct card, and when i try to run 'alsamixer' i get this error 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device'
[20:43] <Disgruntldtote> I have run into a snag using VoiPong voip sniffer under Hardy. I got it compiled, and running, yet it doesnt detect network voip calls, even ones made from the computer its running on, and also there is no Soxmix in Hardy.
[20:43] <soundray> adelejjeh: what welcome screen is that -- where you log in?
[20:43] <h00k> tesseracter: it's a beta version, found it on the site
[20:44] <Disgruntldtote> any help is most appreciated
[20:44] <adelejjeh> my nvidea is 7series
[20:44] <adelejjeh> ya where i log in
[20:44] <cpt>  8.04 crash into busybox may be IO error or sata detection error WHAT to do. tried many times and tried all the option including text/safe graphic/oem/noacpi ( amd atheon 3500+ asus a8v-vm sata +ata+sony dvd using ubuntu 8.04 i386 DVD ) |  should i need some driver cd or what ??
[20:44] <mojo> adelejjeh::  changing the video driver counts as monkeying around... don't mean it in a derogatory way... :)
[20:44] <adelejjeh> and i cant open X, im on windows now...
[20:44] <adelejjeh> hehe
[20:44] <tmapj> can someone tell me how to automatically run a command on startup?
[20:44] <danbhfive> cpt: I think you should try launchpad.net
[20:44] <h00k> cpt: if it's an I/O Error, I'd check to make sure your HDD is okay.
[20:45] <ror> tmapj, it depends where about on startup you want
[20:45] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well we can find out the name of the opensource nvidia package (i'm on ati gear), and you can re-install that from the command line
[20:45] <adelejjeh> and it should work?
[20:45] <tesseracter> h00k, yeah, firebug didnt have any formatting and would only work in its own window for me. wierd right?
[20:45] <tmapj> ror: what do you mean "where about"?
[20:45] <h00k> tesseracter: yeah, this is curious
[20:45] <Fuorezzaa> ciao
[20:45] <cpt> danbhfive hook, thanks a lot for your concern and time sorry for flooding the channel
[20:45] <yoymi> hola
[20:46] <soundray> !boot | tmapj
[20:46] <h00k> cpt: its okay, I just realized that when you said there was an I/O error
[20:46] <adelejjeh> and the problem is that i tried running recovery mode, but i couldnt start X because i dint change the root password, so i dont know it...
[20:46] <thinkingfrog> anyone know how to fix a problem with the "gdm" screen being so large you can't see where to type your username/password?
[20:46] <h00k> cpt: usually that means something is wrong with your HDD, check fror S.M.A.R.T. errors,
[20:46] <h00k> cpt: try some different diagnostic utils on it
[20:46] <squid0> hi. just installed hardy, and pulseaudio wasn't installed. I just installed the packages via synaptic, but I'm not sure how to set it up. Can someone help please?
[20:46] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to stop the system from changing my brightness level without disable acpi?
[20:46] <yoymi> some body now this chanel in spanish pls
[20:46] <MrObvious> !es | yoymi
[20:46] <danbhfive> cpt: no problem, launchpad can help you with genuine bugs and such,  this channel can't help with actual bugs
[20:47] <cpt> hook it should not be  io error form motherbord side as i am running xp sp2 finely
[20:47] <adelejjeh> so guyz any suggestions?
[20:47] <tmapj> soundray can you walk me through this pls
[20:47] <soundray> tmapj: what do you want to start?
[20:48] <Danish989> hi all
[20:48] <cpt> hook may my bord is not properly supported or some thing like that
[20:48] <h00k> adelejjeh: you don't want to start X in recovery mode
[20:48] <tmapj> i want to start my bluetooth mouse on startup
[20:48] <Danish989> My ubuntu desktop wont load, instead I get some Busy Box V1.1.3 built in shell .. what do I do??
[20:48] <adelejjeh> y not?
[20:48] <douglas> HEy
[20:48] <ackbahr> Hi there! I have ATI driver issues after upgrading to Hardy. Anyone can help?
[20:48] <douglas> Does ipw3945 work on Ubuntu (8.04) yet?
[20:48] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm having issues with getting dansguardian and tinyproxy to work together.  Tiny proxy "appears" to start correctly, but dansguardian keeps saying it cannot connect to it when I try to start it.  Ideas?
[20:48] <Disgruntldtote>  I have run into a snag using VoiPong voip sniffer under Hardy. I got it compiled, and running, yet it doesnt detect network voip calls, even ones made from the computer its running on, and also there is no Soxmix in Hardy.
[20:48] <h00k> adelejjeh: you just want to run the command 'passwd [usernamehere]
[20:48] <Girltalk> i'm out for now, have a good afternoon. you can find me in the firefox channels at irc.mozilla.com if any of you are having issues with beta 5 on your hardy platforms (which a lot of you are)  =(
[20:48] <cpt> danbhfive thanks a lot i m just trying it
[20:48] <douglas> Anything?
[20:49] <adelejjeh> what is this comand :$
[20:49] <h00k> douglas: I have the 4945 working
[20:49] <soundray> tmapj: insert the necessary commands in /etc/rc.local -- before the 'exit' line.
[20:49] <adelejjeh> im kind of a beginer
[20:49] <douglas> I need ipw3945... but i have seen bugs in the 2.6.24 kernel
[20:49] <squid0> hi. just installed hardy, and pulseaudio wasn't installed. I just installed the packages via synaptic, but I'm not sure how to set it up. Can someone help please?
[20:49] <h00k> adelejjeh: passwd
[20:49] <h00k> is the command
[20:49] <douglas> h00k, i have heard that 2.6.24 is buggy :<
[20:49] <tmapj> soundray, how do i open that file
[20:49] <h00k> adelejjeh: when you're at the prompt
[20:49] <douglas> is there a deb for it?
[20:49] <adelejjeh> what ds it do?
[20:49] <h00k> douglas: I don't know...exactly
[20:49] <scott> Has anyone had trouble with seahorse in hardy?
[20:50] <Danish989> hi all
[20:50] <soundray> tmapj: 'gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local'
[20:50] <Danish989> My ubuntu desktop wont load, instead I get some Busy Box V1.1.3 built in shell .. what do I do??
[20:50] <Beavter_> Anyone here have experience with wine and Ventrilo?
[20:50] <douglas> Is it possible to downgrade the Ubuntu kernel?
[20:50] <piege> anybody got samba to connect to a vista box?
[20:50] <h00k> douglas: sure is
[20:50] <michalski> hello, problem: my root account has become a security hole through your System Recovery Menu (8.04) how do i fix this?
[20:50] <mooselix> Thanks for the help, all. Take care.
[20:50] <douglas> h00k, id like to downgrade to like 2.6.18
[20:50] <douglas> or anything else?
[20:50] <douglas> doable?
[20:50] <adelejjeh> Hook: i just enter passwd then my username?
[20:50] <h00k> douglas: check your synaptic
[20:50] <h00k> adelejjeh: yep
[20:50] <tmapj> soundray: nothing happens when i type that
[20:51] <adelejjeh> h00k: and what do i do next?
[20:51] <h00k> adelejjeh: it will prompt you to type your new password
[20:51] <soundray> tmapj: then you typed it wrong.
[20:51] <tem_> channel: another problem I have is with the video and the dreaded "pink shadows".  In reading this seems to be a problem with the nvidia driver 169.12 with the nvidia-utils.  Is this correct?
[20:51] <ror_> loading -generic instead of -386 fixed it all
[20:51] <adelejjeh> ok.. this wont solve my problem concerning the vga though
[20:51] <jonne> is there a way to let ubuntu detect the hardware on its own? I screwed up the whole wireless thing
[20:51] <soundray> tmapj: or you copied the 'quotes', which you shouldn't do.
[20:51] <cgillogly> scott, what problem are you having?
[20:51] <douglas> h00k, synaptic doesnt have other kernels?
[20:51] <piroko> ＡＡＡＡＡＡＡＡＡＡＡＣＣＣＣＨＨＨＨＨＨＨＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯＯ！！！！！！！
[20:52] <ackbahr> Bless you
[20:52] <tmapj> soundray, no, i copied and pasted exactly what you wrote without the quotes
 thank you
[20:52] <Disgruntldtote> you misted me thru the screen....... disgusting
[20:52] <Danish989> what the hell is Busy Box and why won't Ubuntu Load?
[20:52] <ThomPhoenix> I have a problem with Ubuntu Restricted Extra
[20:52] <mojo> adelejjeh::  sry had to take a phone call... folks helping you ?
[20:52] <ThomPhoenix> It's configuring msttcorefonts and I can't get past the "ok" screen
[20:53] <soundray> tmapj: where did you paste it?
[20:53] <adelejjeh> mojo: well h00k told me how to change my root password...
[20:53] <michalski> !ask | thomphoenix
[20:53] <tmapj> into terminal
[20:53] <adelejjeh> mojo: but this wont help me to solve my problem
[20:53] <ThomPhoenix> okay
[20:53] <mojo> adelejjeh::  what for?  i thought you had x video problems
[20:53] <ere4si> Danish989: is it the first time your booting into 8.04?
[20:53] <soundray> tmapj: and what exactly does it say?
[20:53] <douglas> h00k, http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1528 hmhm
[20:53] <tmapj> nothing at all
[20:53] <Milchmann> hi everony. i have encrypted my entire system and cant boot it now. grub just gives me "error 24". the relevant files are here http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/208975/ (sorry its part german) i've reinstalled grub from chroot several times
[20:53] <adelejjeh> mojo: ya but i tried to open X in recovery mode, i needed to be root and i dint now the password.
[20:53] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well do you want help going back to the opensource nvidia driver or help getinng the proprietary one to work?
[20:54] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay, i see
[20:54] <svensko> anyone here have experience with linux on the PSP?
[20:54] <Danish989> ere4si: No, It was working fine before, I just restarted my computer in windows xp and tried booting in Ubuntu 8.04 but I got the BusyBox thing, and ubuntu wont load :S
[20:54] <ubufra70> hi everybody. anyone knows if it's possible to disable one of my two videocards (the integrated intel 865 ) in my gutsy? I can't get my nvidia to work
[20:54] <adelejjeh> so what do u suggest?
[20:54] <mojo> adelejjeh::  so in recovery mode startx brings up the graphical login screen?
[20:54] <ror_> Ububegin, disabling video cards should be done in the BIOS
[20:54] <soundray> tmapj: does it return the prompt?
[20:54] <adelejjeh> dsnt it?
[20:54] <ere4si> Danish989: reseat your memory sticks then
[20:54] <ThomPhoenix> I have a problem with the Ubuntu Restricted Extra package.  It's configuring msttcorefonts and I can't get past the screen with info about it and with the red "ok" button. Do I click it? Do I have to type OK in the terminal?
[20:54] <Anza> Hi, does anybody knows what can I do to avoid Thunderbird delete the original mails from my accounts inbox?
[20:55] <adelejjeh> ok let me try to open recovery mode... and ill be back.. im on windows now...
[20:55] <michalski> ok so no one knows the answer to this?: my root account has become a security hole through your System Recovery Menu (8.04) how do i fix this?
[20:55] <tmapj> soundray: it returns to the precursor if thats what you mean
[20:55] <dimisdas> Hello everyone. I see the chaos here and i hope someone will help me with some difficulties i have with Network and Sound drivers...
[20:55] <ackbahr> piroko: Do you lnow anything about graphical acceleration setup?
[20:55] <Danish989> ere4si: how do I do that?
[20:55] <soundray> tmapj: try 'sudo nano /etc/rc.local'
[20:55] <Milchmann> ThomPhoenix, maybe [tab] to select it and then press enter or space?
[20:55] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok let me try to open recovery mode... and ill be back.. im on windows now...
[20:55] <ubufra70> ror_: you're right but it doesn' work with 775i65gv MB
[20:55] <AzizLight> I'm trying to boot ubuntu using parallels but now I have a command line-like screen with grub> and I have no clue what to do :S
[20:55] <Danish989> eres4i: I thought you said Reset .. Reseatting is just taking them out and placing them back?
[20:56] <tmapj> ok now its working
[20:56] <ere4si> Danish989: open the box and pull the memory out and put it back in
[20:56] <ThomPhoenix> Milchmann: I installed it through the terminal with apt-get, can you use tab there?
[20:56] <michalski> AzizLight: you mean dual-boot?
[20:56] <tmapj> so i type the command i want before "exit 0" ?
[20:56] <Danish989> ere4si: you are sure that will work? And how did this just get messed up out of nowhere?
[20:56] <soundray> AzizLight: try entering 'reboot' and see if it goes to that same prompt again
[20:56] <piroko> ackbahr: You mean 3D support? Only with radeons
[20:56] <Larry_> Ubuntu sucks
[20:56] <pagoda> what could cause my screensaver to flicker?
[20:56] <Larry_> xD
[20:57] <Milchmann> ThomPhoenix, yes it should work
[20:57] <piroko> ＬＡＲＲＹ＿： ＤＯ ＮＯＴ ＴＡＵＮＴ ＴＨＥ ＡＷＥＳＯＭＥ ＰＯＷＥＲ ＯＦ ＵＢＵＮＴＵ
[20:57] <at0mix> how does one get resticted drivers to showup in system settings?
[20:57] <ThomPhoenix> Milchmann: I will try then, thanks. Hope it works.
[20:57] <tmapj> soundray it says need to be root
[20:57] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[20:57] <ackbahr> piroko: Ah, ok... I've got ATI problems here, so thanks anyway I guess! :)
[20:57] <mojo> Ademan::  i should be here, if not give me 5 min and i'll be back
[20:57] <ere4si> Danish989: that solved it the one time it happened to me - it goes to busybox because there isn't enough ram
[20:57] <CarismaD> hi
[20:57] <pagoda> ati accelerated graphics driver: enabled, in use
[20:57] <soundray> tmapj: what says that?
[20:57] <tmapj> the terminal
[20:57] <mojo> Ademan::  sory, that was for someone else
[20:57] <AzizLight> michalski: well I'm in osx and I opened paralles. parallels is using the partition created by bootcam (the one that I deleted to create the ubuntu partitions)
[20:57] <bobgill> how to mount NTFS on hardy ?
[20:58] <Milchmann> hi everony. i have encrypted my entire system and cant boot it now. grub just gives me "error 24". the relevant files are here http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/208975/ i've reinstalled grub from chroot several times
[20:58] <ere4si> Danish989: how old is the comp?
[20:58] <soundray> tmapj: you did type 'sudo nano', didn't you?
[20:58] <Larry_> "ＬＡＲＲＹ＿： ＤＯ ＮＯＴ ＴＡＵＮＴ ＴＨＥ ＡＷＥＳＯＭＥ ＰＯＷＥＲ ＯＦ ＵＢＵＮＴU" I know, ubuntu rulez and windows crashes. Just a joke
[20:58] <CarismaD> im new here:D
[20:58] <tmapj> no you told me to type reboot
[20:58] <Danish989> ere4si: Old enough, I have 1 Gig of DDR Ram
[20:58] <soundray> tmapj: no I didn't
[20:58] <mojo> Anza::  there are settings in the account preferences about leaving mail on server vs deleting it
[20:58] <dimisdas> Anyone here yo help me?
[20:58] <tmapj> ok what do i type then?
[20:58] <melter> how do i get dhclient to set my hostname?
[20:59] <Larry_> tubgirl
[20:59] <Danish989> dimisdas: say out your question and whoever can help will assist.
[20:59] <soundray> tmapj: when I'm talking to you, I use your nick. When I use someone else's nick, I'm not talking to you.
[20:59] <mojo> dimisdas::  did you say your problems?  i missed it
[20:59] <belor1> dimisdas, whats the issue
[20:59] <Anza> mojo: I dont see any
[20:59] <Ubter> hello
[20:59] <Larry_> salsasnack rulz xD
[20:59] <ere4si> Danish989: try the reseat for a start
[20:59] <tmapj> ok
[20:59] <mojo> Anza::  what kind of account, pop or imap?
[20:59] <Ubter> could anyone help me using alien?
[20:59] <Anza> mojo: since thunderbird you mean?
[20:59] <Anza> pop
[20:59] <Larry_> i speak no good english
[20:59] <mojo> Anza::  hang on, i have tb open and one of each type... brb
[20:59] <Anza> and I am using yahoo, hotmail and gmail
[20:59] <soundray> tmapj: have you inserted those commands now?
[20:59] <belor1> DIMISDAS: whats the issues
[20:59] <Ubter> I am trying to convert a 32bit rpm to .deb but it is failing. I am on 64bit.
[20:59] <Danish989> ere4si: have you seen any thread or solution on the internet anywhere for this?
[21:00] <tmapj> soundray: so do i type the command i want before "exit 0"
[21:00] <Anza> mojo: ok
[21:00] <AzizLight> soundray: nothing happened :S and now I don't even have the grub> anymore, just an underscore _ ...
[21:00] <soundray> AzizLight: were you booting from a CD or CD image in Parallels?
[21:00] <dimisdas> I installed virtualbox in 7.10 and after the upgrade it told me to install some packs. After i installed them ...
[21:00] <bobgill> how to mount NTFS on hardy ?
[21:00] <dimisdas> i was in low graphics
[21:00] <soundray> tmapj: YES, I already said that
[21:00] <ThomPhoenix> Milchmann: I can't select it with tab. The screen has a blue background and fills the terminal window. It says "busy with configuring msttcorefonts". Then there is some info about the package and below a red OK button. I can't get past this. I can't click, type, tab.
[21:00] <Danish989> bobgil: shouldn't they already be mounted?
[21:00] <ere4si> Danish989: only that you get a busybox prompt due to a lack of ram - memory sticks failing or not seated
[21:01] <bobgill> no, it isn't
[21:01] <svl> Something in Ubuntu 8.04 is preventing the assignment of win-L e.a. keyboard shortcuts from performing the associated action. These assignments _do_ work under Kubuntu 8.04. Anyone have any idea where I could look to find out what it taking up those shortcuts?
[21:01] <bobgill> :/
[21:01] <MrBill> Has anyone in here configured fuppes to stream to an xbox360 with Hardy? Is it halfway straight forward and a decent project for someone somewhat newbie, or is it not ideal to tackle for a novice?
[21:01] <dimisdas> then i disabled them and now i have no WiFI network and sound.
[21:01] <Danish989> ere4si: Windows xp is still reading 1 Gig of ram :/
[21:01] <dimisdas> What can i do?
[21:01] <Danish989> bobgill: are you on the live cd or installed ubuntu desktop?
[21:01] <mojo> Anza::  right-click on the account in the list on the left, select properties.  should bring up account settings window.  select server options on the left, and you'll see a checkbox for leaving messages on the server half way down the settings
[21:01] <ere4si> Danish989: linux boots diff to windows
[21:01] <AzizLight> soundray:I'm using paralels, I have no clue what's happening, it's the first time I use parallels, I was bored :S
[21:02] <bobgill> installed already
[21:02] <Danish989> ere4si: ok, I will try that method a bit
[21:02] <dimisdas> what can i do to give u more info about it and solve it?
[21:02] <ariqs> the only way I have been able to get connected to the net is with wvdial in a terminal.  One of my problems is that I have two modems installed on this computer, and it finds the modem I don't want to use because it's not as stable and connects at a slower baud.
[21:02] <soundray> AzizLight: did you attempt to install Ubuntu into a Parallels virtual machine then? Or did you download a pre-installed image?
[21:02] <ariqs> is there anyway to have wvdial ignore the first modem it finds?
[21:03] <dimisdas> Any idea of what i can do?
[21:03] <teratorn> could anyone tell me the proper way to configure a bridge interface, br0, to have a static address and at attach eth0 to it?
[21:03] <mojo> Larry_::  how did you do the font change?
[21:03] <Anza> mojo: yes, thank you, I will test it
[21:03] <AzizLight> soundray: I just install ubuntu on a seperate partition (I created a windows partition with bootcam and then I deleted it during the ubuntu installation...well to install the ubuntu partitions on it)
[21:04] <mdgeorge> Hi
[21:04] <mojo> Anza::  np, pay it forward ;)
[21:04] <shadowpool> Hi!
[21:04] <johannal> does anyone here who uses AWN have firefox launch in a new window (with a instance on the dock) event though launcher is present in the doc
[21:04] <chetnick> i have a problem connecting to two different networks at the same time, with two different interfaces (eth0 cable, and eth1 wireless) using NetworkManager. It can be either or. Cant do both. I can do it manualy (when i turn of NetworkManager).
[21:04] <mdgeorge> I'm getting periodic seg faults in gvim. Can someone point me to instructions to filing a bug report?
[21:04] <mojo> johannal::  only when i already have another firefox window open
[21:04] <JimmyJazz> hi everyone - i'm trying to upgrade to gutsy from feisty and have hit a problem. When in the update manager i click install and get the message - W: GPG error http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:  - ' i'm using a dell inspiron 6400 laptop - any ideas?
[21:05] <DJones> !launchpad | mdgeorge
[21:05] <mdgeorge> thanks
[21:05] <mojo> johannal::  unless your awn icon is pointing to like ff2 and your menu runs ff3 - it was like that for me when i ran them concurrently under gutsy
[21:05] <nerdzyboy> Could anyone help me get my laptop sound card to work properly? the sound works, but when I plug in my headphones the speakers don't stop playing sound... lspci says that my sound card is a Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03). This feature works fine in vista... any idea how to activate it in ubuntu?
[21:05] <adelejjeh> mojo: it dint work
[21:05] <johannal> mojo: hmmmm thats odd......I don't have ff3 installed only ff2 and the menu points to ff2
[21:05] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you tried startx under the recovery login?
[21:05] <adelejjeh> i wsnt able to start X in recovery mode...
[21:06] <soundray> AzizLight: if you want to try Ubuntu in Parallels, you should tell Parallels to boot the Desktop CD. If you want to put Ubuntu on your Bootcamp partition, you should restart your Mac and boot directly from the Desktop CD (have it in the drive and hold down the C key)
[21:06] <ariqs> the only way I have been able to get connected to the net is with wvdial in a terminal.  One of my problems is that I have two modems installed on this computer, and it finds the modem I don't want to use because it's not as stable and connects at a slower baud.   How can I make wvdial configure skip this modem to find the other?
[21:06] <adelejjeh> ya
[21:06] <mojo> johannal::  you have another ffox window open somewhere?  close the one, and then use ps aux |grep firefox at a command line
[21:06] <adelejjeh> it dint recognize the X
[21:06] <mojo> johannal::  if ffox is truly closed, you'll only see the match to your own command, no others
[21:06] <ariqs> .
[21:06] <ackbahr> Let's turn it differently : if I have a bunch of issues with my Hardy upgrade, is there a way to do it again, to maybe "clean up" the problems? Or maybe from a install CD?
[21:07] <adelejjeh> mojo: what do u think i shld do?
[21:07] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well i wasn't meaning for you to test that, i was just askin what you meant about logging into x as root... that should be disabled
[21:07] <shadowpool> Quick question:  Someone had a bad ram stick and repeatedly crashed his Ubuntu box.  The ext3 filesystem is all sorts of messed up.  Is it better to run fsck first, then back up data?  Or back up data then run fsck, then back up again (in case some corruption is fixed?)
[21:07] <basvg> ackbahr: iirc the install cd has a recovery option... that might be what you're looking for (never had to use it though)
[21:07] <ariqs> I got my ubuntu 7.10 disks today. Tobad it's old news now ;P
[21:07] <ariqs> is there a dedicated ubuntu help channel?
[21:07] <mojo> adelejjeh::  i don't know the nvidia driver's name, but we can try to figure that out and put it back how it was.  i don't have nvidia gear so i don't know the ins and outs of the proprietary driver
[21:07] <johannal> mojo: when I do ps aux I do see FF even though I don't have it running
[21:08] <DJones> ariqs: this is it, just ask your question
[21:08] <genii> ariqs: You are in it
[21:08] <AzizLight> soundray: I heard that I could boot other partitions directely from parallels. So for instance now I have an ubuntu partition (that I can boot normally if I restard my mac), and what I tried to do is to boot to ubuntu directly using parallels from osx
[21:08] <soundray> shadowpool: it's probably best to image the partition in question with partimage or similar, then to run fsck on it.
[21:08] <LoOoD> which package do you guys suggest for firewall? i'm using the lokkit package and just using its medium setting.
[21:08] <doofy_> is there a good tool to resize ntfs? the installers one is not working
[21:08] <adelejjeh> mojo: my driver is Gforce 7300
[21:08] <mojo> johannal::  only once, from the command line that you typed to bring up the list.  ps will list itself
[21:08] <ariqs> DJones: I have asked in here and I get no response ;P I thought there might be a better channel. this one is giant and spammy
[21:08] <adelejjeh> mojo: guide me through it... what should i do?
[21:08] <trond-> ackbahr: what I did was just do a clean install from CDs. Just download the ISO and burn it on a CD.
[21:08] <YouKnowMe> Hello, My old extensions aren't compatible with this new FF and nightly tester isn't working, it asks me if I want to force install, I say yes but they don't get installed..
[21:08] <mojo> adelejjeh::  hang on and let me find out the right package name
[21:08] <soundray> AzizLight: oh, does Parallels support that now? Well, I can't comment on that, sorry...
[21:08] <Judeglass> is there a workaround to get itunes to share it's library with Rhythmbox?
[21:08] <tmapj> soundray, the command i inserted needs a password
[21:08] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you running i386 or 64bit?
[21:09] <tmapj> how do i set that up in the boot file
[21:09] <forevertheuni> \o hi..i've installed nvidia driver manually(a beta version) however when I boot an old version of nvidia.ko is loaded..if I rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia , the correct version is loaded..so where's the file that allows me to remove nvidia.ko form the /lib/****/volatile directory? tyvm
[21:09] <adelejjeh> i386
[21:09] <AzizLight> soundray: I thinks the new version support that...but I'm not sure
[21:09] <DJones> ariqs: its just busy, this is the best place to ask, it might just take time for somebody who knows the answer to notice the question and have time to help
[21:09] <soundray> tmapj: not if you run it from rc.local. Enter it without the 'sudo; part
[21:09] <soundray> tmapj: not if you run it from rc.local. Enter it without the 'sudo' part
[21:09] <mojo> you at the recovery console?
[21:09] <tmapj> soundray what was the name of the file again pls?
[21:09] <crdlb> forevertheuni: put nv in DISABLED_MODULES in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[21:09] <johannal> mojo: ok..so I confirmed that I don't have any other FF instances open...but still if I click on the launcher instead of just opening FF and having an arrow under the icon...I get a completely new icon/instance in teh dock....which I don't get e.g. with the terminal
[21:09] <shadowpool> ﻿soundray:  Is it bad to mount a partition that has a broken file system?  Would it be harmful to attempt a backup on said file system?
[21:09] <unop> johannal, ps aux | grep -vi [g]rep
[21:09] <forevertheuni> ty crdlb
[21:09] <ackbahr> trond-: Yes, but I have tiny little details (like a config stuff that shuts down sound volume on startup) and bigger configs (like the whole sound card business anyway) that I don't want to loose! Is there a soft way that would do this?
[21:09] <soundray> AzizLight: apparently it doesn't support it so well...
[21:10] <johannal> mojo: that only happens with the terminal e.g. if I actually have two terminals opened
[21:10] <adelejjeh> mojo: so tell me when u find smtg
[21:10] <adelejjeh> mojo: and thx
[21:10] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[21:10] <mojo> johannal::  weird, that is true.  um, try removing the ffox launcher from the panel in awn manager, then re-add it?
[21:10] <mojo> adelejjeh::  i already found the package name
[21:10] <forevertheuni> adelejjeh, what was your question?
[21:10] <tem_> Fresh install of 8.04 and the mouse occasionally 'studder' then eventually and randomly the caps lock and scroll lock will blink and the enter OS freezes.  Whats going on?
[21:10] <adelejjeh> mojo: so what should i do?
[21:10] <tmapj> soundray what was the name of the file again pls?
[21:10] <sparkybean> hi all. I have ubuntu installed on this laptop, which accesses the Internet wirelessly just fine, and i have a desktop computer connected to the laptop (via a crossover Ethernet cable) that i want to be able to access the Internet through the laptop. Can it be done?
[21:10] <soundray> shadowpool: it's definitely safest to image it first. Then you're not lost, even if fsck fails
[21:10] <trond-> ackbahr: if you have a spare disk you could copy it on to that, or a memory stick or something. Or burn those important stuff on a CD.
[21:11] <paule> ariqs: you might find it calmer and just as useful to ask in one of the forums... You'd have to take all the time to write down all that is important
[21:11] <johannal> mojo: nope
[21:11] <Lifeisfynny> Is there a file to install for removing DRM (Digital Rights Management) on an audiobook file?
[21:11] <johannal> mojo: same thing
[21:11] <shadowpool> soundray:  Thanks!
[21:11] <forevertheuni> yes sparky
[21:11] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you're logged in at the recovery console, you are root and your prompt will be a hash (#) instead of the dollar sign ($) you get when you're logged in as a regular user
[21:11] <ackbahr> trond-: But some of those I don't even remember where they are.... :(
[21:11] <forevertheuni> sparkybean, you have to enable masquerading on laptop to the wireless device
[21:11] <adelejjeh> mojo: right
[21:11] <forevertheuni> and have the default route at desktop
[21:11] <soundray> tmapj: it's /etc/rc.local .  You are straining my patience. It's just plain lazy not to write down something like that.
[21:11] <sparkybean> how do i do that forevertheuni?
[21:12] <mojo> johannal::  well you got me bud.  see if there is an awn-specific channel, or seek out their user forums, wiki, or bug tracker maybe
[21:12] <dimisdas> I installed VirtualBox in Ubuntu 32bit 7.10 and worked fine. When i upgraded  to ubuntu 8 VirtualBox told me to install some packages that had to do with kernel. After that i had to restart... After restarted at the opening the message: ubuntu run in low graphics, appeared. I removed all the packages i had installed for virtual box and now my graphics are better (but not as good these graphics were before i do anything) but my WiFi networkin
[21:12] <dimisdas> g doesnt work and I also experience problems with my Sound Drivers. Any ideas? Anything i can do to give u more info about these problems?
[21:12] <forevertheuni> sparkybean, check pvt
[21:12] <trond-> ackbahr: settings could be in the /etc directory. Anyway. If you spend time on doing that part of the job before you wipe the disk, you should have a good chance of getting your system up to what it was.
[21:12] <tmapj> soundray sorry, and how do you edit it?
[21:12] <johannal> mojo: alright...thanks though
[21:12] <adelejjeh> mojo: next?
[21:12] <soundray> tmapj: fed up now, bye.
[21:13] <mojo> adelejjeh::  oka, well as root you need to:  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.messed-up
[21:13] <mojo> adelejjeh::  i used .messed-up to be sure you get a unique name for the backup file, not overwriting another .backup that we might need later
[21:13] <shadowpool> tmapj, what's up?
[21:13] <forevertheuni> sparkybean, ????
[21:14] <adelejjeh> mojo:so i just type this in the prompt and it will work?
[21:14] <mojo> adelejjeh::  after you back up your xorg.conf file, then: aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[21:14] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if yo are root.  if you are your own user, put "sudo " in front of both command lines i gave you
[21:14] <adelejjeh> mojo: no i would be root
[21:14] <mojo> adelejjeh::  sudo means super-user-do, to run programs with root permissions
[21:14] <adelejjeh> mojo: go on..
[21:14] <Simonft> I hace a powerbook g4 and I can't get flash to work
[21:14] <trond-> anyone know where to get some help on nautilus. I have serious issues in Hardy. I can't move windows or icons (programs, files or directories). Need to find out some debugging information. Maybe this is the moment where I learn how to code in c or whatever language nautilus is written in?
[21:15] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay then, you have your instructions my son now run like the wind
[21:15] <bcardarella> Is there a way to modify how Ubuntu handles hotplugging? For instance, I want to change the default behavior for when I plug in my Franklin Wireless CDU-680 (broadband wireless USB stick)
[21:15] <dimisdas> Can anyone help me please? :P
[21:15] <mojo> adelejjeh::  after you reinstall the nv driver (opensource one), you should be back to square one at least.
[21:15] <tem_> Fresh install of 8.04 and the mouse occasionally 'studder' then eventually and randomly the caps lock and scroll lock will blink and the enter OS freezes.  Whats going on?
[21:15] <Simonft> ﻿dimisdas: state your problem
[21:15] <dimisdas> v
[21:15] <dimisdas> I installed VirtualBox in Ubuntu 32bit 7.10 and worked fine. When i upgraded  to ubuntu 8 VirtualBox told me to install some packages that had to do with kernel. After that i had to restart... After restarted at the opening the message: ubuntu run in low graphics, appeared. I removed all the packages i had installed for virtual box and now my graphics are better (but not as good these graphics were before i do anything) but my WiFi networkin
[21:15] <dimisdas> g doesnt work and I also experience problems with my Sound Drivers. Any ideas? Anything i can do to give u more info about these problems?
[21:15] <adelejjeh> mojo: but after i indert those commands, i should be able to open ubuntu in normal mode?
[21:15] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you want someone to help yo uget the proprietary drivers, find someone who has experience with them to help you
[21:16] <ackbahr> trond-: Well, maybe I'll clonzilla my partition beforehand, or something like that....
[21:16] <Herlaziness> hello, how can I tell the current version of ubuntu?
[21:16] <adelejjeh> mojo: dint u just help me with that?
[21:16] <mojo> adelejjeh::  yeah, you'll want to reboot to get out of the recovery console run-level
[21:16] <patbam> argh, my keyboard indicator panel applet seems to have broken -- when i toggle it the name doesn't change.
[21:16] <Starnestommy> Herlaziness: lsb_release -a
[21:16] <Herlaziness> thanks Starnestommy
[21:16] <ejer> dimisdas: try installing a fresh hardy image
[21:16] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok let me try this... and ill be back
[21:16] <adelejjeh> mojo: thanks
[21:16] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay, so you already did those two steps?  backed up xorg.conf and installed the xserver-xorg-video-nv package?
[21:16] <tmapj> shadowpool: ?
[21:16] <dimisdas> ejer: How can i do that?
[21:16] <trond-> dimisdas: you could check the output in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages and such. Also check dmesg and see what that says.
[21:16] <adelejjeh> mojo: no not yet
[21:17] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you havent, that is what to do next.  okay, i'll be here
[21:17] <gandalf88> join #ubuntu-it
[21:17] <fiXXXerMet> Need some help with my xorg.conf file.  I have 2 dvi ports.  FIrst one is hooked to my samsung computer monitor and works just fine.   I want to connect the second dvi port to my 1080p tv as a second monitor (not cloned)...  Any tips?
[21:17] <ejer> dimisdas: go to ubuntu.com, download it and follow same process you used to install 7.10
[21:17] <adelejjeh> mojo: im still in windows:P
[21:17] <mojo> johannal:: good luck, sorry i couldn't help more
[21:17] <Lifeisfynny> Would anyone know how to convert an audiobook file presently in wma format w/'Digital Rights Management' to mp3?
[21:17] <jco> hi, just installed 8.04 and when telling grub which initrd image to use it tells "Error 28: Slected item cannot fit into memory", anyone else here had the same problem?
[21:17] <dimisdas> ejer: I am on ubuntu 8 right now, Why do i have to reinstall i?
[21:17] <dimisdas> it*
[21:18] <tmapj> can anyone help me with a bluetooth problem?
[21:18] <dimisdas> trond: Checking
[21:18] <Mattevt> So, if a video embedded in Firefox requires WMP, how would I go about obtaining that codec and applying it to the browser?
[21:18] <trond-> fiXXXerMet: try not to mess with it. I've played with that file a few times and it is nothing I would recommend. Can't do it in GUI?
[21:18] <icmp_> macd, ping
[21:18] <tem_> Fresh install of 8.04 and the mouse occasionally 'studder' then eventually and randomly the caps lock and scroll lock will blink and the enter OS freezes.  Whats going on?
[21:18] <bladerunne1> there is a plugin for gnome that you use to replace the current application launcher on the top panel (top left) that acts identical to the mac panel in that it will show you "file" "edit" etc for the current open program (only those that use gtk) anyone know what it is called?
[21:18] <fiXXXerMet> trond-: Maybe - where do I go?
[21:18] <ackbahr> Lifeisfynny: Play it a set up a recorder on the line out....
[21:18] <devlogic> I'm having some trouble with an 8.04 amd86 install; I get "Error 17" after Grub stage 1.5 loading.  I've tried what seems like everything, including copying the files to the flash drive from a mac, windows, and a linux system (running 7.08), custom and stock syslinux.cfg files.  I think my chief problem is that the "root" parameter in syslinux.conf isn't correct.  I've tried without, with "/dev/ram", and "/dev/ram/0".  Any ideas?
[21:18] <devlogic> er, "amd64", that is
[21:18] <stroyan> trond-:  You could start at http://library.gnome.org/devel/guides if you want to dive into nautilus and swim around in the source.
[21:19] <Lifeisfynny> ackbahr, I'd like to put it on an IPOD
[21:19] <jasperarcher> hello, i need some help with booting.  i installed 8.04 with a usb stick (cd-rom physical damage on my laptop), and now i always have to use the usb stick to startup, otherwise my laptop hangs on "GRUB _"
[21:19] <dimisdas> trond:  /var/log/syslog wont work even with root permissions.
[21:19] <lesshaste> how can I configure xorg.cong to use fglrx?
[21:19] <ackbahr> Lifeisfynny: Still, you can play it and set Audacity to record what comes from the main mix down, can't you?
[21:19] <trond-> Mattevt: You should use the vns... hang on, I'll google for that one. there is a firefox plugin for it.
[21:20] <helicopterrun> Is it possible to boot from a 4gb internal hdd and have the master be a 750gb external
[21:20]  * delcoyote hi
[21:20] <trond-> dimisdas: do tail -f /var/log/syslog or cat /var/log/syslog | less
[21:20] <ejer> lesshaste: administration>hardware drivers
[21:20] <mojo> bladerunne1::  there was talk at one time, somebody wanted to scratch that itch and made an attempt at it, but i think it was really problematic because it involved taking over the menu from gtk apps and they weren't designed with that in mind architecturally. don't know if the guy finished it, but he did make some progress, though there were lots of problems
[21:20] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to download the GNOME environment?
[21:20] <Mattevt> trond- thanks!...what's vns?
[21:20] <lesshaste> ejer: ok thanks
[21:20] <melter> how do i get dhclient to set my hostname?
[21:21] <stroyan> helicopterrun:  What you _you_ mean by "the master"?
[21:21] <bladerunne1> mojo: cheers
[21:21] <sparkybean> forevertheuni...
[21:21] <ejer> melter: needs to be done on dhcp server
[21:21] <Lifeisfynny> ackbahr,   I get a garbled sound coming out 'audacious' for a few seconds and then it stops
[21:21] <bladerunne1> mojoi: like this http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41558&d=1187998206
[21:21] <forevertheuni> I tried to convo you in private
[21:21] <tokah_> movieplayer doesn't even correctly play the example oggs that come with ubuntu on my comp. its play speed is like maybe a frame a second, and no sound
[21:21] <melter> ejer, it already is, but i need ubuntu to set it
[21:21] <forevertheuni> sparkybean, I tried to convo you in private
[21:21] <bladerunne1> mojo: ^^
[21:21] <helicopterrun> like use it as a main drive
[21:21] <sparkybean> did you get my replies?
[21:21] <mojo> bladerunne1::  yeah?
[21:21] <dimisdas> trono-: Tried. Do u want the results?
[21:22] <dimisdas> trondo-: *
[21:22] <trond-> Mattevt: You should apt-get for Videolan.. vlc was the right abbreviation :)
[21:22] <forevertheuni> no sparkybean  I didn't
[21:22] <forevertheuni> :/
[21:22] <ackbahr> Lifeisfynny: Ah, it's not the best solution then..... Sorry I don't have any other suggestion? (or maybe a second computer to record?)
[21:22] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:22] <mojo> bladerunne1::  sorry i can't remember wehere i was reading that, it was like 6 or 10 months ago.  if you google the right words you might find soething about it, it was on some mailing list archive
[21:22] <Mattevt> trond- oh...I have VLC...how do I get it to work with firefox?
[21:22] <mojo> bladerunne1::  some gnome dev list or something
[21:22] <trond-> dimisdas: :) did you get anything out of it? or was it empty?
[21:22] <forevertheuni> sparkybean, join #sparkybean
[21:23] <trond-> Mattevt: there should be a Firefox-plugin for that.
[21:23] <Lifeisfynny> ackbahr, yeah, I was hoping it could be done, thanks
[21:23] <nn123645> hey guys
[21:23] <bladerunne1> mojo: yeah been trying finally cotton on to macmenu
[21:23] <Mattevt> OK, I'll look, thank you!
[21:23] <ackbahr> Lifeisfynny: Well, good luck anyway
[21:23] <nn123645> I was wondering if it was possible to get Battlefield 2 to work in ubuntu?
[21:23] <dimisdas> trond-: Yeah, i had results
[21:23] <Lifeisfynny> ackbahr, thanks
[21:23] <stroyan> helicopterrun:  You can use an external drive for the root partition.  Or for several partitions mounted where you like.
[21:24] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:24] <trond-> dimisdas: hm. can you dcc it or something?
[21:24] <mojo> bladerunne1::  "cotton on to macmenu" ??? what does that mean?  you came to like it or accustomed to it?
[21:24] <ejer> melter: are you trying to send it to the dhcp server, or set your hostname locally from the server
[21:24] <dimisdas> trond-: The results are here http://rafb.net/p/vLuMzh42.html
[21:24] <helicopterrun> i have an older e machines is that a problem
[21:24] <melter> ejer, for example, when i run dhcpcd -H on gentoo, it sets the hostname to whatever the dhcp server sends
[21:24] <bitsbam> anyone using fluxbox in Hardy?
[21:24] <iKar> Iv got atheros chipset antena how to install?
[21:24] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:24] <melter> and i want to do the same on ubuntu
[21:25] <iKar> Iv got atheros chipset antena how to install?
[21:25] <Dvyjones> !bcm43xx
[21:25] <richard> Atheros (L) :$
[21:25] <richard> Atheros (L) :$
[21:25] <noelferreira> does anyone knows how to stop the system from changing my brightness level without disable acpi?
[21:25] <trond-> dimisdas: nothing much of interest there I would say.
[21:25] <Dvyjones> !wireless
[21:25] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:25] <trond-> noelferreira: go into powermanager and unset a parameter
[21:25] <bladerunne1> mojo: think you missed my earlier post when I did "^^" this meaning look above! - http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=41558&d=1187998206
[21:26] <Girindor> i have a ralink RT2561T / RT61 chipset PCI card for my desktop (wlan0), can't get it to work. it is there when I do lspci. would appreciate any help.
[21:26] <ejer> melter: seems dhclient doesn't do that, but could be wrong... you could install dhcpcd...
[21:26] <mojo> any one know if there is a tea-timer function on the ubuntu clock ?
[21:26] <devlogic> I'm getting error 17 when attempting to boot from a hd-media installer on a flash drive.  amd64.  any ideas?
[21:26] <bitsbam> how do i change gtk theme from fluxbox?
[21:26] <mojo> you know, a short alarm, like say to set in 10min
[21:26] <noelferreira> trond-, i don't have the paramter anymore. i had it in the beta version but now with a fresh install i don't even have the on-battery tab on power settings
[21:26] <trond-> dimisdas: if you don't have any important stuff or settings on your machine, I would wipe everything.
[21:27] <Dvyjones> Pusur: Are you norwegian?
[21:27] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:27] <dimisdas> trond-: What shall i do then? I am new and i come from windows, help me plz break the walls Microsoft built over me,
[21:27] <big-g>  does anyone use nvidia's twinview with tv out?
[21:27] <Pusur> Yes, I am.
[21:27] <mojo> bladerunne1::  yeah, i did miss that, you dissappeared from my network segment on irc for a sec, cuz i could not tab-complete your name just then
[21:27] <ejer> devlogic: grub did not correctly guess your hard drives
[21:27] <adelejjeh> mojo: i couldnt back up... it is giving me no such file or directory
[21:27] <dimisdas> trond-: Is this the only thing i can do? reinstall everything?
[21:27] <iKar> My graphic card says not in use how to make it go in use
[21:27] <trond-> noelferreira: is your laptop charging? go to System / Preferences / Power Management - Uncheck Dim display when Idle
[21:27] <dthacker-work> hi!  Is there gnome based music player that scrobbles songs to last.fm as amarok does?
[21:27] <devlogic> ejer: hrm, I had no problem installing 7.10 on this same hardware with the same flash drive.
[21:28] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:28] <Girindor> @dthacker-work yes there is, rhythmbox
[21:28] <bitsbam> trond, i think banshee does that
[21:28] <trond-> dimisdas: It would be the sense thing to do I think. Sometimes that is the best approach in stead of using hours and hours on trying to fix something.
[21:28] <stroyan> melter:  You could try commenting out "send host-name "<hostname>";" from /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf so it doesn't tell before asking.
[21:28] <noelferreira> trond-, it happens when it is not charging
[21:28] <mephorash> :)
[21:28] <adelejjeh> mojo: i couldnt back up... it is giving me no such file or directory
[21:28] <Girindor> dthacker-work: rhythmbox can do that
[21:28] <ejer> devlogic: grub needs to be helped sometimes, using grub-install /dev/sdx will usually do it
[21:28] <Russel-Athletic> hiho
[21:28] <bladerunne1> ﻿mojo: weird! ah well found it and its called macmenu-applet FYI ;0)
[21:28] <iKar> y graphic card says not in use how to make it go in use
[21:28] <Girindor> you just need to go to preferences, plugins
[21:28] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:28] <Girindor> activate the lastfm plugin
[21:28] <dthacker-work> Grindor: tnx, I'll give it a look. :)
[21:28] <devlogic> working with the official Hardy hd-media installer, haven't gotten it to boot yet.
[21:29] <adelejjeh> mojo, u there?
[21:29] <Girindor> in the preferences of the plugin key in your last.fm username and pw
[21:29] <noelferreira> trond-, it happens always and i had to disable acpi. i'm just asking if there's other options. like go around with script files in the acpi settings
[21:29] <iKar> y graphic card says not in use how to make it go in use
[21:29] <devlogic> so no grub-install yet
[21:29] <Girindor> works for me :-)
[21:29] <Russel-Athletic> why doesn't my laptop led not work with the newest release but with the previous everything was fine. any suggestions how to fix this?
[21:29] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay, hang on i was busy.. 1sec
[21:29] <weaseal> how does one wipe all the archived packages from adept/apt-get?
[21:29]  * weaseal is outta hard drive space...
[21:29] <adelejjeh> mojo: no prob
[21:29] <ejer> !patience | iKar
[21:29] <dimisdas> trond-: I have important settings in my computer. I have programs from my work...
[21:29] <iKar> okie I will wait
[21:29] <madakacherry> is there anyone that can help with hotkeys on xubuntu?
[21:29] <Girindor> weaseal: sudo apt-get --help
[21:29] <Girindor> or better
[21:29] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:29] <dthacker-work> !hotkeys
[21:29] <bitsbam> weasel, you mean delete the packages after install? thats apt-get clean
[21:29] <Girindor> sudo apt-get --help | more
[21:29] <iKar> okie IM sorry :(
[21:30] <MatthewAPeters> I just upgraded to Heron and cannot get twinview or high-res working again.  Card is Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT.  Logs show a lot of junk about VESA loading.  Tried Envy.  Tried nvidia-xconfig.  About a zillion times.  Any ideas?
[21:30] <Girindor> will tell you all the commands :-)
[21:30] <Daisuke_Ido> madakacherry: try in #xubuntu
[21:30] <iKar> I will wait
[21:30] <ejer> iKar: try using driver manager in administration>hardware drivers
[21:30] <weaseal> Girindor, is sudo really needed for --help? :P
[21:30] <Girindor> i guess not ;-)
[21:30] <adelejjeh> mojo: i entered cp/etc/X11/xorg.conf/etc/X11/xorg.conf.messed-up
[21:30] <trond-> dimisdas: hm. what you could do is save those important files and programs on a memory stick, external HD or burn it on CDs/DVDs
[21:30] <Girindor> ﻿i have a ralink RT2561T / RT61 chipset PCI card for my desktop (wlan0), can't get it to work. it is there when I do lspci. would appreciate any help.
[21:30] <adelejjeh> mojo: isnt it right?
[21:30] <helicopterrun> i have a usb hdd and i cant get a new patition with gparted any ideas
[21:30] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:30] <iKar> Iv got ati graphic card and its in restricted drivers
[21:30] <Girindor> helicopter: is it mounted?
[21:31] <trond-> dimisdas: have you tried to uninstall / un-apt the VirtualBox
[21:31] <Girindor> you cant partition when its mounted
[21:31] <dimisdas> trond-: yes,,, :(
[21:31] <mojo> adelejjeh::  cp is a command, there is a space before the /etc/X... part.  one command, two arguements.  cp <sourcefile> <destinationfile>
[21:31] <fiXXXerMet> What is the program that I use to configure my monitor's make and model and aspect ratio?
[21:31] <big-g>  does anyone use nvidia's twinview with tv out?
[21:31] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[21:31] <weaseal> sweet, thanks Girindor , that gave me back a GiB
[21:31] <mojo> adelejjeh::  so it is "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.messed-up
[21:31] <helicopterrun> partitions 1 and 2 but they are fat 32 i cant mout the 3rd 500 gb part as any type
[21:31] <bitsbam> big-g, i run a tv with twin-view
[21:31] <Girindor> np :-)
[21:31] <adelejjeh> mojo: oh so cp /etc...?
[21:31] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:32] <adelejjeh> mojo: is it Xone one or ll?
[21:32] <Girindor> well, in order to partition anything in gparted it needs to be unmounted first
[21:32] <Danish989> hi everyone
[21:32] <mojo> adelejjeh::  then after that is successful you do "aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-nv" .. when successfull, reboot and test it
[21:32] <Girindor> if it is mounted you cant partition
[21:32] <big-g> bitsbam, i am having a problem getting the display to fit on my tv. the display is way to big. do you have this problem?
[21:32] <mojo> adelejjeh::  X Eleven
[21:32] <iKar> I will be back going to try it
[21:32] <Danish989> eris: you were helping me out with my busybox problem?
[21:32] <bitsbam> big-g, no, what video card do you have? nvidia?
[21:32] <Girindor> ﻿i have a ralink RT2561T / RT61 chipset PCI card for my desktop (wlan0), can't get it to work. it is there when I do lspci. would appreciate any help.
[21:32] <trond-> Dvyjones: have you tried to google bcm4306 linux ubuntu or something?
[21:32] <big-g> yes
[21:32] <Nergar> hello
[21:32] <Nergar> :)
[21:32] <adelejjeh> mojo: it said missing destination file operand
[21:32] <big-g> bitsbam, yes
[21:32] <mojo> adelejjeh::  what did you type exactly?
[21:32] <bitsbam> big-g, which version Ubuntu
[21:33] <bitsbam> 8.04?
[21:33] <bujar> No sounds!!! No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[21:33] <bujar> help
[21:33] <Dvyjones> trond-: Yes, and I've tried all the tutorials, but none worked
[21:33] <helicopterrun> yes i know i have done that and every time i try to delete the third partition its ntfs i cnat make a new ext3 or 2 partition iget an error
[21:33] <melter> stroyan, i don't have that in my /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file
[21:33] <big-g> bitsbam, i have a nvidia card....sorry
[21:33] <adelejjeh> mojo:cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf/etc/X11/xorg.conf.messed-up
[21:33] <trond-> dimisdas: seems that there are some settings or something else that is causing you problem. check for virtualbox or something in /var/log/messages
[21:33] <bitsbam> big-g, which Ubuntu version, 8.04?
[21:33] <big-g> bitsbam, you can email me your xorg.conf?
[21:33] <mojo> adelejjeh::  cp is the command, then space, then /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the source file (with path), THEN SPACE, then /etc/X11/xorg.conf.messed-up is the destination file.
[21:33] <trond-> Dvyjones: have you tried to use the windows drivers. Don't remember program to use, but there is one.
[21:33] <Nergar> i want to synchronize my /home folders in both my lappy and my pc but obviously ignoring .hidden files, what tool can I use besides unison??
[21:33] <stroyan> melter:  Does your /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf include "request ... host-name, ... "
[21:33] <Nergar> thanx
[21:34] <Girindor> bujar: hm, ubuntu 8.04 is a bit buggy when it comes to sound... try doing alsamixer in the terminal and bringing all the volume controls up
[21:34] <adelejjeh> mojo: oh ok... sry:$
[21:34] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:34] <big-g> bitsbam, well...uhh...not exactly ubuntu
[21:34] <mojo> adelejjeh::  it's okay... one darwin point taken away but you're still in the game :P
[21:34] <bitsbam> well, i am not twin-view anymore, however, it may still help
[21:34] <dimisdas> trond-: I think theres a package that has to do with the ubuntu kernel. That package provides virtualbox-ose module (vboxdrv.ko) for the
[21:34] <dimisdas> 2.6.24-16-386 kernel.
[21:34] <Girindor> Nergar: try Synkron (you can find it on sourceforge)
[21:34] <bitsbam> big-g, what distro?
[21:34] <melter> strongarm, yes
[21:34] <adelejjeh> mojo: hehe ok it finished the installing
[21:34] <melter> stroyan, yes
[21:35] <adelejjeh> mojo: ill reboot?
[21:35] <mojo> adelejjeh::  cool.. test it, are you back into graphics mode?
[21:35] <melter> stroyan, that's all it has, just that one line
[21:35] <big-g> bitsbam, i am using gentoo. but if you don't have a working twinview xorg.conf than it won't help.
[21:35] <Danish989> My ubuntu 8.04 just stopped booting, and instead I'm stuck at BusyBox :S can anyone help??
[21:35] <mojo> adelejjeh::  yeah, reboot and see if it works
[21:35] <adelejjeh> mojo: cross ur fingers:P
[21:35] <adelejjeh> :p
[21:35] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:35] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please help me with some module issues: I`m trying to blacklist ndiswrapper from autoloading at boot time. So I remove it from /etc/modules and also added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist . But it is still loading . Any advice an what I should do next ?
[21:35] <mojo> adelejjeh::  done
[21:35] <trond-> dimisdas: hm.. haven't really tried the virtualbox stuff, so I am shooting blanks here. Maybe you should reinstall the normal kernel after uninstalling the vb-kernel stuff?
[21:35] <bitsbam> big-g, do you have access to the GUI program nvidia-settings? maybe emerge nvidia-settings?
[21:35] <forevertheuni> how can I use sudo with a | or > like
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Anyone know how to make Evolution group the Inbox by date?
[21:35] <forevertheuni> sudo cat file | patch -p1
[21:36] <big-g> ya, using the gui
[21:36] <Danish989> My ubuntu 8.04 just stopped booting, and instead I'm stuck at BusyBox :S can anyone help??
[21:36] <Danish989> !busybox
[21:36] <big-g> bitsbam, ya...using the gui
[21:36] <bitsbam> big-g, had a backup of the twin-view, can email it to you, need addresss
[21:36] <Girindor> can anyone please help me? ﻿i have a ralink RT2561T / RT61 chipset PCI card for my desktop (wlan0), can't get it to work. it is there when I do lspci. would appreciate any help. -how can i configure settings for wpa from the terminal? iwpriv command wont work.
[21:36] <bujar> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[21:36] <adelejjeh> mojo: i was tlking to smone i know, he said it is possible to change the resolution b4 reaching the log in page.. do u have any clue how this is done?
[21:36] <mojo> forevertheuni::  dunno... does sudo work with quotes?  sudo "cmd | cmd"?
[21:36] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:36] <dimisdas> trond-: already  unistalled the vb-stuff. How can i install again the normal kernel>
[21:36] <big-g> bitsbam, awsome! thankx! it's darin.hensley@gmail.com
[21:36] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:36] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well, no. i don't know how, other than manually changing xorg.conf before starting.
[21:37] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿ I just upgraded to Heron and cannot get twinview or high-res working again.  Card is Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT.  Logs show a lot of junk about VESA loading.  Tried Envy.  Tried nvidia-xconfig.  About a zillion times.  Any ideas?
[21:37] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if your friend knows ask them i guess.  just did you get back into an X login screen now?
[21:37] <Girindor> bujar: you somehow have to install alsa or something like that - i did it last weekend on my sisters laptop but cant remember how... i just googled around...
[21:37] <bitsbam> big-g, ok, will do
[21:37] <Nergar> Girindor, thanks
[21:37] <dimisdas> trond-: Synaptic package manager?
[21:37] <adelejjeh> mojo: and i still have the same prob... its very slow, it just reached the login screen, but it frezed, dint prompt me for user name...
[21:37] <jasperarcher> Hello all, I have a question about 8.04 that I just installed.  I installed from USB stick (physical damage to CD-ROM drive) onto my toshiba laptop.  And it installed OK I think -- graphics look good, wireless works fine.  My problem is that when I try to boot directly from my hard disk it hangs on a black screen with "GRUB _" on it and that's it.  However, if I boot via USB, and then choose the option "load from hard
[21:37] <jasperarcher> drive" it boots up fine.  I posted more detailed information about this problem here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=776236  any help would be much appreciated.
[21:37] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:38] <trond-> dimisdas: use synaptics and search for kernel I presume. That is what I would have done.
[21:38] <adelejjeh> mojo: shall i w8 to see if itll work?
[21:38] <Esse> hi every1
[21:38] <Vlet> How does one change the position of new windows on the screen? It's rather annoying with two monitors to have new windows appear split between the two.
[21:38] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:38] <dimisdas> trond-: Many results that have nothing to do with real kernel. Something more specific?
[21:38] <adelejjeh> mojo: isnt it possble to start X in recovery mode?
[21:38] <mojo> adelejjeh:: startx at the command line
[21:38] <o0Chris0o> how do I make sure deKorator is installed and running?
[21:39] <adelejjeh> one word?
[21:39] <trond-> dimisdas: I would just search for kernel
[21:39] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:39] <Danish989> My ubuntu 8.04 just stopped booting, and instead I'm stuck at BusyBox :S can anyone help??
[21:39] <dimisdas> trond-" :P
[21:39] <adelejjeh> mojo: one word?
[21:39] <mojo> adelejjeh::  but it may be configured to refuse root logins.  though you do have a password on your root account so it might work
[21:39] <mojo> adelejjeh::  one word :)
[21:39] <adelejjeh> mojo: but i dont know my root password,how can i change it in the console?
[21:40] <ariqs> ok, so I ran scanmodem and it said I had a hsfmodem. I'm downloaded what I believe to be drivers for that now, but i have no idea how to install them. What do I do with them? It's currently downloading as hsfmodem-7.68.00.06tstloem.tar.gz
[21:40] <dimisdas> trond-: found many versions. Which kernel do i need?
[21:40] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if startx works, you can try using your user login.  but i am not sure if that will work or not.  i am not up on my run-level differneces - and the recovery console is a different run-level for linux
[21:40] <trond-> dimisdas: you use the linux-image
[21:40] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:40] <mojo> adelejjeh::  passwd root
[21:40] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:40] <RandyboY> Isnt XMMS possible to install from the reps?
[21:40] <trond-> dimisdas: find the one that is the closest to the one that is in Ubuntu 8.04 now. On mine this was: linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic
[21:40] <trond-> Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64
[21:40] <Danish989> can anyone help me solve my Busybox problem?
[21:40] <tyrone> Hi i am about to change from gutsy to hardy is it possible to make a buck up of my firefox settings(bookmarks, passwords, etc)?
[21:41] <thatsnotjack> I just upgraded to hardy, but there's processes called kapcid and kapcid_notify which hog up 99% of cpu all the time.  I added acpi=off to my kernel line on /boot/grub/menu.lst, but that breaks my internet connection.  Is there any other way to keep these processes from bogging down my machine?
[21:41] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿tyrone - I had no problem with favorites after upgrade
[21:41] <adelejjeh> mojo: btw isnt what's happenin to me wierd?
[21:42] <mojo> RandyboY::  it WAS, though I have not run xmms in a long time.  i use amarok and audacious
[21:42] <Vlet> tyrone: All those settings are stored in a hidden directory named ~/.mozilla
[21:42] <forevertheuni> what the application name of the new ubuntu firewall?
[21:42] <trond-> dimisdas: it was a few more, but look for those 2.6.24-16 stuffs.
[21:42] <Dvyjones> I am getting disconnected from my wireless network ab. every 2 minutes using bcm4306 card, then I have too reboot to get back. Any idea how to fix it?
[21:42] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿tyrone - but firefox will upgrade, so some of your pluggins might not cary over
[21:42] <tyrone> MatthewAPeters, I want to erase my partition and install it in a new one
[21:42] <dimisdas> trond-: Found it. Now? Shall i remove it and install it again?
[21:42] <tyrone> Vlet, thanks you
[21:42] <mojo> adelejjeh::  it is strange that it is so slow.
[21:42] <tyrone> And is anyone using AWN in hardy?
[21:42] <desowin> what's the preffered way to request package update?
[21:42]  * Dvyjones does
[21:42] <mojo> tyrone::  try to but it keeps crashing on me
[21:42] <ariqs> ok, so I ran scanmodem and it said I had a hsfmodem. I'm downloading what I believe to be drivers for that now, but i have no idea how to install them. What do I do with them? It's currently downloading as hsfmodem-7.68.00.06tstloem.tar.gz
[21:42] <adelejjeh> mojo: do u think that it might not be freezing, its just slow?
[21:42] <trond-> dimisdas: it's worth a shot, but then again, it could break your whole system. Do a search or a question in the forum and ask what people think...
[21:43] <MatthewAPeters> maybe copy your /home/~ to a card or something
[21:43] <Danish989> doesn't anyone have any solutions for the BusyBox problem??
[21:43] <Vlet> desowin: what do you mean? you mean to manually update an installed package?
[21:43] <mojo> adelejjeh::  hard to say not being there to see it for myself, ya know.  "slow" is a subjective and relative term
[21:43] <jsh_> I have an ATI Radeon 9550.  Gutsy worked find.  Hardy had jerky performance because it wasn't doing direct rendering.  I tried various fixes posted various places.  Mostly they didn't work.  After the last, from http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide, it's become unusable.  It comes up, lets me log in, draws the heron, then the screen goes white.  Suggestions?
[21:43] <dimisdas> trond-: Thank you. Will have a try.
[21:43] <Vlet> Danish989: Maybe take your problem to the forums, or search them first for others with the same problem.
[21:43] <trond-> tyrone: most of the settings are either in ./firefox or ./mozilla hidden directories.
[21:43] <jsh_> Sorry "... worked fine."
[21:43] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok i typed start x.. it gave me a dotted grey screen:s
[21:43] <trond-> dimisdas: good luck :)
[21:44] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:44] <desowin> Vlet: I mean how to request to get actually working package in offical repository; cmake 2.4 patch 7 is ultimately buggy, I'd like to get cmake 2.4 patch 8 in the offical repo
[21:44] <desowin> Vlet: (I can install packages by myself)
[21:44] <dimisdas> trond-: i think removing the kernel its a big risk without being sure about it :P
[21:44] <mojo> adelejjeh::  in my experience mysterious "slow" is often one of the harder problems to knock down... but that was in my years supporting windows.  there are good tools in linux but i am not skilled with top and vmstat and all
[21:44] <norsetto> desowin: open an upgrade request bug in LP
[21:44] <Danish989> Vlet: I've searched there already an no one seems to have found any solution
[21:44] <george> Please help Is it real this "Ubuntu crash your notebook Hdd"?
[21:45] <Vlet> desowin: ahh. Maybe ask in #ubuntu-devel
[21:45] <mojo> adelejjeh::  though i do know they exist :p
[21:45] <Danish989> george: I don't think so
[21:45] <Prez00> so, any of the bug updates made it into hardy repositories yet?
[21:45] <weaseal> hey i have an issue, whenever X restarts, the computer freezes
[21:45] <george> xaxa me too
[21:45] <Danish989> We need a BusyBox channel like we have one for Grub problems .....
[21:45] <weaseal> ie, whenever i log out of one wm to switch to another, issue a ctrl alt backspace, etc
[21:45] <basvg> just bought a sony camcorder with hd .... suppose I'd plug it into my hardy box... what'll happen? will it pop up as harddisk?
[21:45] <adelejjeh> mojo: what should i do now? it gave me a dotted grey screen, and no mouse is there yet :s
[21:45] <george> but i read lokal magazine and the write this...
[21:45] <RandyboY> mojo, is it capable to play files shared over lan from a windows machine?
[21:45] <melter> where can i find documentation on how to get one of the various dhcp clients working?
[21:45] <Danish989> basvg: Yes, that is what should happen
[21:45] <george> but i read local magazine and they write this...
[21:45] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you use ctrl-alt-f1 thru ctrl-alt-f6 you can get to the other "virtual terminals".  text logins.  X runs on VT7, so you get back to it with ctrl-alt-f7
[21:46] <trond-> dimisdas: good luck :)
[21:46] <basvg> Danish989: cool. easier than I thought even ;)
[21:46] <Danish989> george: I don't see how Ubuntu can crash laptop hdds'
[21:46] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿I just upgraded to Heron and cannot get twinview or high-res working again.  Card is Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT.  Logs show a lot of junk about VESA loading.  Tried Envy.  Tried nvidia-xconfig.  About a zillion times.  Any ideas?
[21:46] <adelejjeh> mojo: how long should i w8 after pressing ctrl alt f7?
[21:46] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you log in on another text console and run top you can see which proceses are running and sort by mem usage, cpu, etc.  if it's slow, you can watch top while x loads up and starts and see what is at the top of the lists
[21:47] <trond-> dimisdas: I totally agree with you. that's why I suggest going for the reinstall route. If you had /home in a partition on it's own, you could decide not to format that partition during the installation of 8.04
[21:47] <Danish989> george: there is a problem, if you install it on a SATA harddisk, the bios gets confused between partitions and the Grub loader doesn't know where to load ubuntu from
[21:47] <adelejjeh> mojo
[21:47] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if you are in X nothing will happen cuz you're already in VT7.  try CTRL-ALT-F1 and see if that immediately switches (like maybe 1 second)
[21:47] <tyrone> anyone else with avant window navigator on hardy? does it work?
[21:47] <philippe> to install awn => http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762363 (work well on hardy ;))
[21:47] <george> they write that ubunto crash laptops hdd only in batery use..
[21:47] <adelejjeh> mojo: nothgn ... still in the same grey screen...
[21:47] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please help me with some module issues: I`m trying to blacklist ndiswrapper from autoloading at boot time. So I remove it from /etc/modules and also added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist . But it is still loading . Any advice an what I should do next ?
[21:47] <j0nr> hello! Can anyone help me with cifs mounting a NAS drive?
[21:47] <adelejjeh> mojo: u think i can solve things in console?
[21:47] <mojo> adelejjeh::  ugh
[21:47] <simman> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.01 from a burned CD. It's all burned on there, but I can't boot from the CD. I've tried everything for hours. Motherboard: ASUS A7V8X-X (up-to-date, non-beta BIOS); CD drive: LITE-ON (don't know much else, it's the gist of what Windows says); Processor: AMD Athlon XP 2400+ (not sure on the 2400+. It's AMD Athlon XP); secondary hard drive (trying to install on): not partitioned.
[21:48] <jsh_> I can rotate the "cube" (which is a two-sided white panel), for a little while, but then the entire box freezes.
[21:48] <mojo> adelejjeh::  with help
[21:48] <george> my ubuntu is instaled on windows
[21:48] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:48] <adelejjeh> mojo: from who? :P
[21:48] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you are able to log in to x or stuck at a "grey screen" ???
[21:48] <amidaniel> simman: Have you set the CD-ROM to the highest boot order in your bios?
[21:48] <mojo> adelejjeh::  be nice
[21:48] <Danish989> simman: did you try running the cd on another computer? and are you sure you have the boot priorities right?
[21:48] <Vlet> simman: in your bios, are you sure you have it set to boot off CD first?
[21:48] <adelejjeh> mojo: grey screen?
[21:48] <stroyan> melter:  You might be able to borrow from http://people.debian.org/~apollock/dhcp3/dhclient-script
[21:48] <j0nr> hello! Can anyone help me with cifs mounting a NAS drive?
[21:48] <jasperarcher> is there a separate irc channel for ubuntu grub issues?
[21:48] <mojo> adelejjeh::   you said stuck at "same grey screen"
[21:48] <Danish989> jasperarcher: yes
[21:49] <simman> amidaniel: Indeed, and, when that failed, I set it to the only device in the boot sequence. I get the whole "please insert system disk" error.
[21:49] <whiteeagle> I have a problem in here, I upgraded to hardy but now sudo doesn't work (gksudo either), this message pops-up sudo: unable to resolve host whiteeagle-laptop, I know I've asked this but no-one helped me right
[21:49] <Danish989> jasperarcher: #grub
[21:49] <mojo> adelejjeh::  adelejjeh> mojo: nothgn ... still in the same grey screen...
[21:49] <adelejjeh> mojo: sry the question mark is by mistake...
[21:49] <Vlet> j0nr: what's your question?
[21:49] <george> I think this is a paylied from other companies....
[21:49] <adelejjeh> mojo: grey screen...
[21:49] <Simonft> does anybody know how to use flash with a powerbook G4?
[21:49] <amidaniel> simman: How did you burn the disc? Did you burn it from the iso?
[21:49] <zack_> I have a x2 4000+ and im running 7.10 x64 is there a reason why core 1 runs hotter and has more load then core2 how do i know for sure both are being used?
[21:49] <whiteeagle> because of policiy kit (a great thing) I could go in admin apps without gksudo :)
 thanks!
[21:49] <george> i dont understand how ubunto broke you laptop hdd...
[21:49] <mojo> so at that screen, ctrl-alt-f1 thru f6 do nothing?  hrmph...
[21:49] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list
[21:49] <Danish989> jasperarcher: No problem :)
[21:49] <simman> amidaniel: The downloaded ISO, yes, and with NERO.
[21:49] <whiteeagle> can this be fixed?
[21:49] <adelejjeh> mojo: so?
[21:49] <amidaniel> simman: Okay .. have you tried loading it on a different machine?
[21:50] <adelejjeh> mojo: should i reboot and go to the recovery console again?
[21:50] <j0nr> vlet I am trying to mount and keep getting mount error 20 - not a directory
[21:50] <Vlet> george: sometimes people do silly things, and would rather blame the OS than themself
[21:50] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well if you are stuck on the grey screen, there was hope of logging in on another virtual terminal console and using the command line to shut down x again and try to fix it some more.
[21:50] <simman> amidaniel: I'd rather not try that on my parents' machine, which is the only other one in this house. I don't have an available system to try it on.
[21:50] <Vlet> j0nr: what's the command your're using?
[21:50] <naderb> .dal.net
[21:50] <george> yeh you right...
[21:50] <mojo> adelejjeh::  does your numlock light go on and off when you press the key?
[21:50] <adelejjeh> mojo: how?
[21:50] <amidaniel> simman: Okay, well, it sounds like a bad disc, or like it wasn't burned correctly
[21:50] <george> but its a scary issue
[21:51] <zetheroo> any ubuntu users in South Africa?
[21:51] <manifest_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9025/ how do i add vista to the list PLEASE RESPOND
[21:51] <mojo> adelejjeh::  this is unix/linux... the command line is magical and can do amazing things, including kill running processes (such as the x server)
[21:51] <j0nr> vlet: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.10/nas /media/nas -o username=workgroup,password=nasmatrix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777D
[21:51] <fixl> hi
[21:51] <Danish989> simman: Check if it works on another computer .. if not, then bad disc. If it does, check your boot device priorities in BIOS.
[21:51] <whiteeagle> I have a problem, I cant sudo the message sudo: unable to resolve host whiteeagle-laptop pops out
[21:51] <j0nr> although thats the wrong username
[21:51] <Starnestommy> manifest_: which partition is Vista on?
[21:51] <Vlet> j0nr: does the /media/nas directory exist?
[21:51] <zack_> I have a x2 4000+ and im running 7.10 x64 is there a reason why core 1 runs hotter and has more load then core2 how do i know for sure both are being used?
[21:51] <MatthewAPeters> whiteeagle
[21:51] <J-Unit> i have the show offline ppl plugin for pidgin enabled but how do i choose the person i want to be shown even when offline?
[21:51] <amidaniel> simman: I'd suggesting burning it onto a new disc, and be sure you're not burning it as if the iso is a file on the disc, but rather the iso is the actual partition on the disc
[21:51] <j0nr> vlet: yes
[21:51] <MatthewAPeters> whiteagle: this is common and can be fixed
[21:51] <simman> amidaniel: How would I burn the iso as a partition with Nero?
[21:51] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well if you're at a grey screen stuck, try ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X.  If that doesn't work, tell me if your numlock toggles or not so i know if the keboard is responding or locked too
[21:51] <manifest_> starnestommy: let me see
[21:52] <george> I think WINDOWS broke you local Pc, not Ubuntu
[21:52] <ariqs> I built my drivers and now the config is asking me this: Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?
[21:52] <ariqs> how do I know that? :P
[21:52] <Vlet> j0nr: hmm, make sure you have write permissions for it (/media/nas that is)
[21:52] <stroyan> melter:  Actually, looking at /sbin/dhclient-script on an ubuntu system, It seems like you may just need to empty out /etc/hostname to get it to use the DHCP hostname.
[21:52] <amidaniel> simman: I'm not familiar with nero personally ... there's likely a specific option to burn an iso
[21:52] <adelejjeh> mojo: very nice indeed, the scrool lock isnt lighting, my computer is completely freezed :D
[21:52] <MatthewAPeters> whiteagle: go into your Network Manager, and add your host name as an alias to localhost
[21:52] <ThomPhoenix> I have a 35 GB Ext3 Media partition, but I can't put files on it because it's owned by root. How can I make it accessible by normal users?
[21:52] <melter> are there any resources for system administrators who are considering moving from an all-gentoo system to ubuntu server?
[21:52] <j0nr> vlet: how do i check that? create a text file in it and edit it ?
[21:52] <manifest_> whats the command 4 harddrives and CD-roms
[21:52] <jrib> !permissions > ThomPhoenix (read the private message from ubotu)
[21:52] <amidaniel> simman: http://wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[21:52] <Vlet> melter: google ;)
[21:53] <melter> Vlet, been there, done that
[21:53] <ThomPhoenix> thanks jrib
[21:53] <adelejjeh> mojo: im gona restart in recovery...
[21:53] <Vlet> j0nr: that'll work
[21:53] <MatthewAPeters> whiteeagle: you need to unlock NetworkManager to be able to modify the hosts entry
[21:53] <j0nr> vlet: aha! cannot save a file to it
[21:53] <shadowpool> Anyone know a command to list available (unmounted) partitions and or harddisks?
[21:53] <Vlet> j0nr: actually, just creating the file will be enough to check
[21:53] <mojo> adelejjeh::  not the best sign.  well, still, you can try a proper emergency shut down.  this will be handy in future if your linux box ever "freezes".  Sometimes it works, sometimes not..
[21:53] <j0nr> vlet: how do i change permissions?
[21:53] <whiteeagle> MatthewAPeters: I can unlock it
[21:53] <stefg> shadowpool: sudo fdisk -l
[21:53] <amidaniel> !chmod | j0nr
[21:53] <adelejjeh> mojo: how?
[21:54] <Vlet> j0nr: sudo chown yourusername /media/nas
[21:54] <shadowpool> tanks
[21:54] <ariqs> "Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?
[21:54] <ariqs> " <-- someone please tell me this ;P I've gotten awfull far with compiling, etc of this driver for not knowing what i'm doing at all, but this is not something I can just guess at
[21:54] <mojo> adelejjeh::  don't just power cycle your machine if you dont have to... there is a magic key sequence that can safely reboot if the linux kernel still sees the keypresses
[21:54] <simman> amidaniel: It automatically chose ISO *something*.
[21:54] <jsh_> Is there a better channel to ask compiz-fusion/X questions on?
[21:54] <simman> amidaniel: Sorry about line 2. This is for the current disk.
[21:54] <stefg> !compiz
[21:54] <chris_420> hi im using mondoarchive to back up my sys... i copied the ISO image from /var/cache/mindi to my home folder... and there are like 6-7 different ISO's of varying sizes in that directory which one to i burn to dvd?
[21:54] <fixl> i cant get my WLAN (Intel Wireless/PRO 3945ABG) to work at full speed. I use Hardy Heron. I allready tryed the things written http://wireless.kernel.org, but somehow it doesn't work at all. Has some1 got a hint for me?/
[21:54] <adelejjeh> mojo: but the scroll ock isnt lighting, so  ibet it disnt..
[21:54] <helicopterrun> is there any way to make my self the owner of a drive or partition that is owned by root
[21:54] <jsh_> Tx.
[21:54] <j0nr> ls
[21:54] <jsh_> quit
[21:54] <zack_> does x64 7.10 support smp by default ????
[21:54] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok.. im in recovery console... what should i do?
[21:54] <tonyyarusso> ariqs: Usually you can just hit enter and use the default.  You will likely need either the linux-headers or linux-source package.
[21:54] <manifest_> starnestommy: i belive its sda1
[21:55] <Starnestommy> zack_: yes
[21:55] <stroyan> melter:  There is a little blog about gentoo to ubuntu at http://www.len.ro/work/tools/from-gentoo-to-ubuntu-on-a-dell-i8600 .  I suspect that it is too easy to have a lot of documentation anywhere. ;-)
[21:55] <Vlet> j0nr: "ls -l" will give you a full listing showing permissions, etc
[21:55] <Starnestommy> manifest_: is ubuntu on sda5?
[21:55] <zack_> ok, because im wonder why my core 1 load is higher then core 2
[21:55] <mojo> adelejjeh::  do CTRL-SYSRQ/PRNTSCRN-R  folowed by CTL-SRQ-E  CTRL-SRQ-I CTRL-SRQ-S CTRL-SRQ-U CTRL-SRQ-B  in that order, and give a second between each.
[21:55] <j0nr> vlet: sorry that was in the wrong window
[21:55] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: I understand none of that. Why can't I use a window and enter my password to have access to it?
[21:55] <chris_420> doesn't the sys use primarily one core then switch the other on when need be?
[21:56] <adelejjeh> mojo: should it be capital?
[21:56] <Vlet> j0nr: yeah, figured ;)
[21:56] <manifest_> starnestommy: yes, and solaris on sda6
[21:56] <mojo> adelejjeh::  control-sysrequest-r (sysrq is on the print-screen key) will make the kernel pay attention to the keyboard, E will end some processes, I will end others, S will SYNC YOUR HARD DISK (important!), U will re-mount the discs as read-only, and B will do a hard re-boot
[21:56] <mojo> adelejjeh::  no capitals
[21:56] <j0nr> vlet: still error 20 - not a directory
[21:56] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: you asked how to change ownership right?
[21:56] <ariqs> tonyyarusso: now it's asking me to enter the modem's region name. HUH?
[21:57] <mojo> adelejjeh::  so while pressing ctrl-sysrq the sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B
[21:57] <j0nr> vlet: confused as to what my username would be for the NAS...assuming it is just admin, which i use to enter the setup of the drive
[21:57] <manifest_> starnestommy how come?
[21:57] <helicopterrun> how do i change permissions
[21:57] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: All I know is that I have partition that I can't put files on. When I checked permissions on right-click menu it showed "owned by root".
[21:57] <mojo> adelejjeh::  be sure to count to five after the S so the discs can sync and not be in a corrupted state after reboot
[21:57] <tonyyarusso> ariqs: what are you compiling?
[21:57] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: k, what's the first thing on the wiki page that doesn't make sense to you?
[21:57] <chris_420> anybody know anything about using mondo or mindi for back up purposes?
[21:57] <ariqs> tonnyarusso: modem drivers, I figured it out, it just meant what country
[21:58] <helicopterrun> pheonix same problem
[21:58] <mojo> adelejjeh::  HOWEVER:  as your numlock won't work, it is very possible that it is locked so hard it won't do that magic.  but it is handy to put in your notes and TRY every time (EVERY) before just hitting the reset button
[21:58] <manifest_> starnestommy how come?
[21:58] <melter> stroyan, thanks, i'm looking at moving gentoo servers
[21:58] <Starnestommy> manifest_: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/9029/
[21:58] <shadowpool> Mojo:  Isn't it alt+sysrq. . . ?
[21:58] <adelejjeh> mojo: that's to restart?
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> ariqs: ah.  Conexant HSF?
[21:58] <adelejjeh> mojo: i told u im in console again :P i dont need that anymore!!
[21:58] <Starnestommy> manifest_: grub needs to know which partition an OS is on in order to boot it
[21:58] <adelejjeh> mojo: what should i do now?
[21:58] <econlab> Hi to everyone
[21:58] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: First thing is why I have to type a command in the terminal. Second thing is that there aren't enough well-explained examples for how to do it.
[21:58] <simman> amidaniel: Are you still there? The previous disk was burnt with an ISO option.
[21:59] <dimisdas> trondo-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4846759#post4846759 thats the post,
[21:59] <Vlet> j0nr: oh yeah, if you're not using the right username, that could do it
[21:59] <skyfaller> hey folks... anyone know how to make a firewire drive work in Hardy?  I'm on a Powerbook G4
[21:59] <manifest_> starnestommy: does it matter if you do it wrong in the beginning?
[21:59] <Vlet> j0nr: not sure why it would give you THAT error though
[21:59] <amidaniel> simman: Sorry, yes, I am.
[21:59] <mojo> adelejjeh::  shadowpool is right, it is ALT-SRQ-n not CTRL-SRQ-n MY BAD!!!!
[21:59] <chris_420> no body knows? i want to do this before updating distros
[21:59] <econlab> Does anyone use Anjuta for programming in C++ ?
[21:59] <melter> stroyan, i can't just do things like copy over ~/.bash_history
[21:59] <amidaniel> simman: Okay, well, when you mount the disc on your current OS and browse its contents what do you see?
[21:59] <Danish989> can anyone help me solve my Busybox problem?
[21:59] <adelejjeh> mojo: ur not with me r u?
[21:59] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay, at the command propmt as root ...
[21:59] <simman> amidaniel: I see the ISO file.
[21:59] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: you don't have to type anything into the terminal.  You do however need to take the time to understand the different permissions so you can decide what you want
[22:00] <mojo> adelejjeh::  yeah
[22:00] <j0nr> vlet: well none of the options for usrname work... error 20 :(
[22:00] <amidaniel> simman: Okay, then you burnt it wrong
[22:00] <Starnestommy> manifest_: it might depending on in what way it's wrong
[22:00] <adelejjeh> mojo: yes
[22:00] <simman> amidaniel: I have to decompress it, don't I?
[22:00] <Esse> btw any1 knows how to make longer battery work (lower power consumption) on my laptop (i'm using powertop already)?
[22:00] <iKar> hello guys me again this time I started ati drivers for ubuntu and they say that I need 2 be super user to install but how?
[22:00] <manifest_> starnestommy: if you like put the wrong SDx in it?
[22:00] <Esse> iKar sudo probably
[22:00] <Starnestommy> iKar: put "sudo" before the command
[22:00] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: so what permissions do you want to set exactly?
[22:01] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: Write access, read access, execute access.
[22:01] <amidaniel> simman: Yes, the iso is an image of what the drive should look like. When you burn the iso to a disc and then mount the disc, you should see a bunch of directories and files on it
[22:01] <chris_420> sudo
[22:01] <iKar> no command I run it directly from deb
[22:01] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: for everyone or specific users?
[22:01] <mojo> adelejjeh::  at the command line as root do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-nv"
[22:01] <jaffarkelshac> how do i turn of the beep scrot makes when it takes a shot
[22:01] <amidaniel> simman: FOllow the instrunctions in the link I provided to burn a new disc
[22:01] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: Everyone
[22:01] <Esse> then sudo su -
[22:01] <Starnestommy> manifest_: it might say that you tried to boot an unbootable partition or it'll boot the wrong one
[22:01] <Esse> and then run this
[22:01] <iKar> dont understand :S
[22:01] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: run 'gksudo nautilus', right click on the mounted partition (/media/whatever), and go to the permissions tab
[22:01] <manifest_> you mean i just copypasta everything in that pastebin into menu.lst and i should see vista?
[22:01] <Starnestommy> iKar: which command are you trying to run?
[22:02] <Starnestommy> manifest_: yes
[22:02] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok, then?
[22:02] <manifest_> okay. thankyou.
[22:02] <adelejjeh> mojo: it returned to the bash...
[22:02] <mojo> reboot and try it.  if it doesn't work we'll be exploring the x server error logs
[22:02] <Vlet> j0nr: try executing this command before executing the mount command: echo 0 > /proc/fs/cifs/LinuxExtensionsEnabled
[22:02] <iKar> not command I downloaded linux ati drivers ftom their site and what then?
[22:02] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: close the gksudo nautilus window after you set the permissions
[22:02] <iKar> they are in deb form
[22:02] <adelejjeh> mojo: yalla...
[22:02] <chris_420> is it possible to burn multiple ISO's to a single dvd in a single session with growisofs?
[22:03] <Starnestommy> iKar: run sudo dpkg -i ./filename.deb
[22:03] <mojo> adelejjeh::  ?
[22:03] <jrib> !ati > iKar (read the private message from ubotu)
[22:03] <adelejjeh> mojo: oh sry... that's arabic for ok im gonna do it :P
[22:03] <simman> amidaniel: I didn't see a link, and should I just decompress the ISO and burn it to a CD from there (with the ISO directory structure intact)?
[22:03] <adelejjeh> mojo: its lietral meaning is lets go..
[22:04] <mojo> yalla
[22:04] <amidaniel> simman: http://wizardskeep.org/mainhall/tutor/neroiso.html
[22:04] <adelejjeh> mojo: hehe
[22:04] <amidaniel> simman: No, there's no need to decrompess it, that will be handled by Nero
[22:04] <david_-_-_> do i need a firewall? like i did on xp home?
[22:04] <mojo> adelejjeh::  rolls off the tounge like southern slang
[22:04] <jrib> !firewall | david_-_-_
[22:04] <j0nr> vlet: keep getting permission denied on that command
[22:04] <fixl> i cant get my WLAN (Intel Wireless/PRO 3945ABG) to work at full speed. I use Hardy Heron. I allready tryed the things written http://wireless.kernel.org, but somehow it doesn't work at all. Has some1 got a hint for me?
[22:04] <adelejjeh> mojo: i think its stil doing the same thing... black screen, then freeze at the login
[22:04] <adelejjeh> mojo: im still at the black screen stage
[22:05] <adelejjeh> mojo: just gave me the login screen
[22:05] <adelejjeh> mojo: but freezed
[22:05] <SmartDen> hello. have troubles with evolution. can anybody help me?
[22:05] <mojo> grey?
[22:05] <simman> amidaniel: Thank you, that'll work just fine. I'll come back if I have any more problems. :)
[22:05] <adelejjeh> mojo: oh and the precessor starts to roar like hell:P
[22:05] <adelejjeh> :P
[22:05] <mojo> black "x" mouse cursor on it?
[22:05] <Vlet> j0nr: oh sorry, run it with sudo
[22:05] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: That seemed to be exactly what I needed, thanks! Should put that on top in the wiki guide ;)
[22:05] <eric> hi i just wanna ask something about the appearance settings>visual effects and i was trying to choose Normal :  or  Extra:  but  im getting an error msg.. "e
[22:05] <amidaniel> simman: k :)
[22:05] <j0nr> vlet with sudo, denied
[22:05] <eric> hi i just wanna ask something about the appearance settings>visual effects and i was trying to choose Normal :  or  Extra:  but  im getting an error msg.. "e
[22:05] <jrib> ThomPhoenix: feel free to add, it is a wiki :)
[22:05] <chris_420> ISO burn help... | anyone?
[22:05] <dimisdas> is it safe to reinstall my kernel from Synaptic? Talking about version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64
[22:05] <ThomPhoenix> jrib: sure
[22:05] <eric> hi i just wanna ask something about the appearance settings>visual effects and i was trying to choose Normal :  or  Extra:  but  im getting an error msg.. "desktop effect could not be enabled"
[22:05] <manifest_> feck, i couldnt save it. should i be in root?
[22:05] <eric> ooops sorry about flooding
[22:05] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well try the nice reboot and get back to the recovery console.  we'll look at the error logs for guidance
[22:06] <MR-REznOr> hello, i got my wireless working :) now im on to trying to get my sound card working, its an intel 82801G high definition audo controller. Ive been likewize checking forums etc and i found one guy recommending linux-rt. what is that and how can i get it?
[22:06] <MR-REznOr> sorry, im on 8.04
[22:06] <amidaniel> chris_420: Just had this issue :) What's your problem?
[22:06] <MR-REznOr> everything appears to work, theres just no sound at all
[22:06] <Danish989> eric: maybe your graphic card isn't compatible
[22:06] <eric> danish.. but it was working a week ago..
[22:06] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[22:06] <MR-REznOr> and im using 2.6.24-16 generic kernel
[22:06] <LhiQuer> i'm having  little issue... i can't switch between workspaces
[22:06] <Vlet> j0nr: you get permission denied with this?.. sudo echo 0 > /proc/fs/cifs/LinuxExtensionsEnabled
[22:06] <eric> i really dont know what had happened...
[22:06] <Danish989> eric: so it just stopped working out of nowhere?
[22:06] <j0nr> vlet yup
[22:06] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you say this USED TO WORK fine before trying to install the proprietary nvidia drivers?
[22:06] <eric> danish.. yesh
[22:06] <iKar> yes thx ubottu but the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:07] <chris_420> ami i am using mondo for back up.... created an iso in the /var/cache/mindi/ directory right?  so i copied this for better usage to my home folder... now i have many iso's of different sizes
[22:07] <shadowpool> eric:  What type of sound card is it?
[22:07] <Vlet> j0nr: I'm trying it..
[22:07] <manifest_>  feck, i couldnt save it. should i be in root
[22:07] <j0nr> vlet if i sudo -i to get root, the command just does nothing...but no error
[22:07] <adelejjeh> mojo: yes everything was normal...
[22:07] <Scunizi> what command do I use to view the devices that are plugged into usb?
[22:07] <Danish989> eric: I don't understand how that could've happened
[22:07] <chris_420>  can i burn multiple iso's to the same dvd in the same session with growisofs?
[22:07] <Starnestommy> manifest_: use gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it
[22:07] <eric> shadowpool:im using a loptap
[22:07] <manifest_> k
[22:07] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well then we should be able to get you back to that point.  was there anything else you did/installed when you installed the nvidia drivers?  anything else that could be coming into play here?
[22:07] <david_-_-_> jrib: do i need to set it up a certain way so i am safe or?
[22:07] <eric> Danish989:what should i do??
[22:08] <Vlet> j0nr: that's what it should do - now try your mount command from earlier
[22:08] <iKar> : yes thx ubottu but the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use it has red lamp :S
[22:08] <Danish989> eric: did you install any more packages for compiz fusion recently?
[22:08] <SmartDen> need help with evolution data server
[22:08] <chris_420> amidaniel: or would i have to get a dif prog? preferably command line haha
[22:08] <manifest_> starnestommy: link that pasta again?
[22:08] <jrib> david_-_-_: no, not unless you start running services that you want to block
[22:08] <Vlet> j0nr: that command echo's a 0 into the file /proc file
[22:08] <amidaniel> chris_420: Are you just trying to burn the iso to a cd?
[22:08] <mojo> when did ubotu get another t?  ubottu?
[22:08] <shadowpool> eric:  Do you know what type of laptop it is?
[22:08] <eric> Danish989: yesh.. i did.. and it was working...
[22:08] <Starnestommy> manifest_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9029/
[22:08] <jrib> mojo: ubotu is on vacation
[22:08] <wyrmul> I am trying to get a PHP script that shows the last few errors in the httpd error_log.  I keep getting permission denied errors.  What are the permissions that I need to change, and to what, that would allow access to the error_log.  Currently the error log has r rights for all users.  the /var directory has drwxr-xr-x. the /var/log/ has drwxr-xr-x and /var/log/httpd/ has drwx------.
[22:08] <eric> sahdowpool: yesh.. lenovo
[22:08] <chris_420> i don't have a cd burner currently only dvd
[22:09] <mojo> jrib::  poor lil bot needs a break i guess :P
[22:09] <j0nr> vlet: not sure what that meant but it seems to have worked!!
[22:09] <iKar> : yes thx ubottu but the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:09] <david_-_-_> jrib: i use deluge alot anything i need to block from that?
[22:09] <Ubter> Anyone here use maya in ubuntu 64
[22:09] <adelejjeh> nope jsut changed the resolution, and enable my 2nd screen (tv) but i did this b4 installing hte driver, so the resolution of the screen turned to 800by600
[22:09] <Starnestommy> iKar: ubottu is a bot
[22:09] <Danish989> eric: did it boot fine after you installed those things?
[22:09] <j0nr> vlet: thank you thank you thank you!!
[22:09] <jrib> david_-_-_: not that I see
[22:09] <Vlet> j0nr: =D
[22:09] <mojo> iKar::  you know ubottu is a program, not a person
[22:09] <LhiQuer> a little issue... i can't switch between workspaces
[22:09] <adelejjeh> mojo: and they told me cant configure ur graphic card
[22:09] <iKar> okie whatever but  the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:09] <eric> Danish989: yesh.. twas working fine
[22:09] <mojo> adelejjeh::  and who told you that?
[22:09] <iKar> and it has red lamp
[22:09] <david_-_-_> jrib:  thanks
[22:09] <SmartDen> please, help with evolution data server needed
[22:09] <manifest_> now, reboot.
[22:10] <chris_420> amidaniel: mondoarchives states there could be an issue with burning directly to dvd which is why i chose this route
[22:10] <adelejjeh> mojo: the ubuntu thingy
[22:10] <Vlet> j0nr: I don't know exactly why that works either, but it seems that there is a 'linux extension' feature to the cifs software that makes it unable to communicate with some NAS devices
[22:10] <amidaniel> chris_420: Well, you could use cdrecord at the command line or simply select the file in Nautilus, right-click on it, and select burn iso
[22:10] <Joelito> Hi all, I need a good program to take a few images and create a slide from them and save them as gif, any ideas?
[22:10] <Vlet> j0nr: so we disabled it.
[22:10] <j0nr> vlet: one more question.... i did access this nas before, via places and set up a few test folders but it seems as though my nas reset itself somehow in a period of inactivity over a few weeks...this is not right is it?
[22:10] <mojo> adelejjeh::  sory that's just too vague for me to know what you mean
[22:10] <amidaniel> chris_420: I don't see why ..
[22:10] <Vlet> j0nr: no clue :-/
[22:10] <Vlet> j0nr: never owned one
[22:11] <mojo> adelejjeh::  my mom calls everything a "thingy" too but i am usually aware of what she means cuz i'm there to see
[22:11] <iKar> the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:11] <j0nr> vlet: ok well I wont rely on it for some time until it proves reliable
[22:11] <eric> brb
[22:11] <Simonft> anybody know how to setup flash on a powerbook G4?
[22:11] <j0nr> vlet: thank you very much again! this has been bugging me for weeks
[22:11] <chris_420> amidaniel: well i was running it from like sudo mondoarchivbe -0 -i -v -d/home/chris
[22:11] <Vlet> j0nr: glad I could help
[22:11] <moon`> hey my forward and back buttons on the side of my mouse for browsing work in firefox but not opera, and I don't see anywhere to adjust multiple buttons on a mouse in the system settings
[22:11] <adelejjeh> mojo: when i enabled the tv in the display settings, it said u have to logout user fr changes to take place... so when i loged out, and logged in, i found this msg... cant configure graphic card... and smthg else i cant remember :P
[22:12] <moon`> any ideas?
[22:12] <ghis> I would like to use this theme.. could anyone help me install it.. i dont understand howto.. http://ebupof.deviantart.com/art/Kryan-1-3-79624784
[22:12] <Ubter> no maya users?
[22:12] <iKar> : yes thx ubottu but the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:12] <chris_420> and it states if ran from sudo doesn't support dvd wirting or something to that effect
[22:12] <ariqs> ok, so I hit ctrl z to disconnect running sudo wvdial and it worked at the time, but when I closed the terminal, I reconnected to the internet. how do I close the connection?
[22:12] <Simonft> ﻿moon`:  seems like a problem with opera
[22:12] <chris_420> ill try the nautalus method
[22:12] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay.  so is that when you decided to install the nvidia proprietary drivers, or were you already using them fine before choosing the tv out thingy?
[22:12] <chris_420> one sec
[22:12] <LhiQuer> can anyone help? i'm having a little issue... i can't switch between workspaces
[22:12] <iKar> the restricted driver doesnt work it says not in use
[22:13] <Simonft> ﻿LhiQuer: what happens if you try?
[22:13] <ghis> Howto install a theme that
[22:13] <LhiQuer> Simonft, nothing
[22:13] <adelejjeh> mojo: i installed the drivers then... b4 that i was working normally, but without installing hte drivers...
[22:13] <mojo> adelejjeh: okay
[22:13] <adelejjeh> mojo: and so when i restartd this is what happened...
[22:13] <Starnestommy> iKar: check the "enabled" checkbox in the driver manager
[22:13] <ghis> Howto install a theme that's a zipfile... with just a bunch of directorys inside? (gnome)
[22:13] <Simonft> ﻿LhiQuer: when why ou click on the other workspace in the bottom right this happens?
[22:13] <mojo> adelejjeh::  so when the tv out didn't work right, you then installed the proprietary drivers, right?
[22:13] <adelejjeh> mojo: ok im at the console, what should i do now?
[22:13] <LhiQuer> Simonft, nothing happens
[22:13] <manifest_> starnestommy: it quite didnt work
[22:13] <iKar> its checked but still says not in use
[22:14] <adelejjeh> mojo: ya
[22:14] <mojo> adelejjeh::  okay, 1 sec while i get the comand right...
[22:14] <Starnestommy> manifest_: did you get any error messages?
[22:14] <AlabamaHit> What is this Ubuntu Studio I found it in the Synaptic Pacage Manger...Is it a theme or something?
[22:14] <Joelito> anyone?
[22:14] <adelejjeh> mojo: if we cant finish it in like half an hour, lets leave it till tomorow, cuz i gotta go sleep l8er.. its alreade 12:15 here
[22:14] <manifest_> starnestommy: yeah
[22:14] <chris_420> amidaniel.... tried it but it will only burn one ISO at a time and i don't know where which to burn
[22:14] <shadowpool> ﻿LhiQuer: Try going to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects and select "None."
[22:14] <Simonft> LhiQuer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/182424
[22:14] <tmapj> can someone tell me how to download the kde environment?
[22:15] <iKar>  its checked but still says not in use
[22:15] <manifest_> starnestommy: should i try 0,1?
[22:15] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log might give us some clues...
[22:15] <tmapj> does anyone here know how to install tor?
[22:15] <Starnestommy> iKar: you may need to restart
[22:15]  * bill-gates is the only guy which have a access on windows source code. For him windows is open source ...
[22:15] <Starnestommy> tmapj: sudo apt-get install tor
[22:15] <Starnestommy> manifest_: try that
[22:15] <iKar> restarted twice
[22:15] <bobbywan> bonsoir, jaurai voulu savoir si on pouvez modifié le chemin de mes documents image music configuré par défaut?
[22:15] <Simonft> LhiQuer: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/28457
[22:15] <bill-gates> !fr
[22:15] <ariqs> ok, so I hit ctrl z to disconnect running sudo wvdial and it worked at the time, but when I closed the terminal, I reconnected to the internet. how do I close the connection? poff wvdial does not work
[22:15] <amidaniel> chris_420: Why would you want to burn more than one iso at a time? O.o
[22:15] <manifest_> gief the command that i can save it? :P for got it already
[22:15] <mojo> adelejjeh::  try: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep EE
[22:16] <adelejjeh> mojo: y not cd? :$
[22:16] <chris_420> amidanielit created one named mondorescue.iso  which was cached... the rest are name executionersbackup  and were created into the home folder as intentended
[22:16] <tmapj> starnestommy i did that already but the program keeps telling me i havent installed tor or privoxy
[22:16] <ariqs> messing with dialup in ubuntu is just a giant can of worms every which way!
[22:16] <mojo> adelejjeh::  the |grep EE part will filter the output through grep and only show error lines (EE) in the line indicates error
[22:16] <chris_420> amidaniel well because i don't know which is the right one to burn ... first tiime using mondoarchives
[22:16] <ariqs> and no one knows anything ;p
[22:16] <iKar> restarted twice
[22:16] <AlabamaHit> If I install Kubuntu Live Cd from the Synaptic will that install Kubuntu? Like another Session? And will it change my install I have already. any?
[22:16] <ariqs> i'm stuck on the internet now until I turn off my comp
[22:16] <manifest_> what was the command to get free modifying rights for menu.lst
[22:16] <Starnestommy> manifest_: use gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst or sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit it
[22:17] <manifest_> thanks, 4got it
[22:17] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you can also do "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |grep WW" to get just the warnings
[22:17] <Simonft> !patience | ﻿ariqs
[22:17] <amidaniel> chris_420: Ermkay .. well, you can only burn one image to a single dvd, unless you want to store the isos as *files* on the dvd ...
[22:17] <iKar> restarted twice
[22:17] <svl> Something in Ubuntu 8.04 is preventing the assignment of win-L e.a. keyboard shortcuts from performing the action I associated with them under system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts. These assignments _do_ work under Kubuntu 8.04. Anyone have any idea where I could look to find out what it taking up those shortcuts?
[22:18] <chris_420> that makes sense... and thats what i figured but was getting no where with asking which one to burn haha
[22:18] <adelejjeh> mojo: it gave me a list (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implicable, (??) unknown. (II) loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[22:18] <adelejjeh> what now?
[22:18] <iKar> restarted twice still dont woek
[22:18] <adelejjeh> mojo: what now?
[22:18] <MR-REznOr> one other thing was someone mentioned making a link in /lib/modules/2.6.24-16generic/kernel/sound to /lib/modules/2.6.24-16generic/ubuntu/sound/alsa-driver . how can i do that?
[22:18] <ariqs> patience is for monks
[22:18] <shadowpool> tmapj: to install and configure tor and privoxy, http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=10825
[22:18] <chris_420> so do you think it would be the mondo rescue right?  that would make the most sense seeing as it said to burn that one
[22:18] <mojo> adelejjeh::  so it was jutst the one line telling you what the prefixes (EE) (WW) etc were?
[22:18] <iKar> please anybodi
[22:19] <Simonft> ﻿iKar: what doesent? use names if you have alread talked to someone
[22:19] <derek_> can someone help with wireless on aspire 3680....trying to get a friend using ubuntu....
[22:19] <adelejjeh> mojo: i tried WW instead of EE
[22:19] <LunaFreeState> ariqs: what problem are you having
[22:19] <adelejjeh> mojo: it gave me alot of writing...
[22:19] <Simonft> ﻿derek_:  what is the wireless card?
[22:19] <chris_420> amidaniel... i get easily confused from time to time and i saw all kinds of ISO's and was caught off guard just wanted to make sure mostly
[22:19] <iKar> Starnestommy:restarted twice
[22:19] <coldfire> i was wondering if anyone can suggest a good stable wireless card for use with hardy 8.04 ... this wmp300n is a piece of garbage
[22:19] <Simonft> ﻿derek_: if it is broadcom, I can help
[22:19] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well okay, so lots of warning lines in the log.  try the EE first, and see if there are actual error lines
[22:19] <Starnestommy> iKar: and you checked the "enabled" box?
[22:19] <iKar> Starnestommy: yes
[22:19] <adelejjeh> nthn for EE
[22:19] <iKar> Starnestommy:its cheked
[22:19] <adelejjeh> mojo: nthn for EE
[22:19] <Starnestommy> iKar: I'm not sure what's causing it
[22:20] <mojo> adelejjeh::  that is good
[22:20] <adelejjeh> mojo: what now?
[22:20] <iKar> Starnestommy:I will be back going to try once more
[22:20] <ElectricJake_> anybody else having problems shutting down hardy properly?
[22:20] <mojo> okay, adelejjeh when you are in the console, you can use shift-page-up and shift-page-down to scroll back and see all the output.  what kinds of errors is it giving at the beginning and at the end?
[22:20] <Simonft> ﻿ElectricJake_: what kind of computer?
[22:21] <ElectricJake_> dell inspiron 2650
[22:21] <derek_> Simonft, BCM94311MCG
[22:21] <adelejjeh> mojo: i said no errors, just warning..
[22:21] <george> May someone help me...How can run subtitles in Ubuntu 8.04 media
[22:21] <cpk1> can you install LVM using the server cd? or does it have to be the alternate cd?
[22:21] <Simonft> ﻿derek_: I've had the same problem, can you connect wired?
[22:21] <chris_420> george i don't think that supports subtitles
[22:21] <LunaFreeState> geogre: have you looked for a plugin?
[22:21] <ariqs> LunaFreeState: I can't disconnect from the net. I've been connecting using wvdial through a terminal, and when I closed the terminal, I reconnected for some unknown reason and there is no wvdial running anymore, but yet I'm online!
[22:21] <mrlnx_> hi has anyone here use vmware to install linux
[22:21] <george> mmNo
[22:21] <adelejjeh> mojo: w8 ... it gave smtg in the errors...
[22:21] <mojo> adelejjeh::  right.  so list the warnings again.  you said there were a lot.  if they scroll past the screen, use shift-pgup and shift-pgdown to read thru them all.  let me know what the first and last errors are talking about
[22:21] <george> i neeed plugin
[22:22] <george> ?
[22:22] <derek_> Simonft,  yes....on the laptop now....
[22:22] <Simonft> ElectricJake: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6384
[22:22] <mojo> adelejjeh::  too bad you can't just post your Xorg.0.log to the internet so i can read it :P
[22:22] <LunaFreeState> ariq: WiFi or lan cable?
[22:22] <ariqs> lunafreestate: dialup
[22:22] <Simonft> ﻿derek_: http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/
[22:22] <chris_420> george you might also try ogle media player it supports menus and subtitles out the gae with no plug in
[22:22] <adelejjeh> mojo: in the errors it gave (II) loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[22:22] <chris_420> < uses it
[22:22] <adelejjeh> hehe
[22:22] <Simonft> derek_: look at the comments too.
[22:22] <LunaFreeState> ariq: laptop or desktop?
[22:22] <adelejjeh> mojo: im on another pc anyways:P
[22:22] <mojo> adelejjeh::  II is informational, not a warning or error
[22:22] <adelejjeh> mojo: lol
[22:23] <adelejjeh> oh
[22:23] <ariqs> LunaFreeState: desktop
[22:23] <chris_420> jsut another option for ya....
[22:23] <derek_> Simonft, ok....thanks....
[22:23] <mojo> adelejjeh::  yeah, i realise that
[22:23] <george> chris_420: ok thank yooo
[22:23] <chris_420> no prob...
[22:23] <mojo> chris_420::  hey, it's 4:20 here :P
[22:23] <LunaFreeState> ariq: seprate line or your normal phone line?
[22:23] <chris_420> hahaaaaa
[22:23] <chris_420> damn i knew it was 420 somewhere haha
[22:23] <ariqs> LunaFreesState: normal phone line
[22:23] <mojo> chris_420::  well 4:23 is still 4:20 on stoner-time
[22:23] <mojo> lol
[22:23] <derek_> Simonft, the page comes up blank....
[22:24] <chris_420> lol true that
[22:24] <trond-> chris_420: is the 420 because you have  a dell d420?
[22:24] <LunaFreeState> ariq: pick up your phone, what do you hear?
[22:24] <chris_420> trond most definitely....isn't haha
[22:24] <ariqs> LunaFreeState: I'm talking to you, so I'll hear a lot of noise
[22:24] <trond-> chris_420: ah. alas. :)
[22:24] <chris_420> < dimension 3000 p4 3.0g x2 512 mb pc3200
[22:24] <Simonft> derek_: http://penkin.wordpress.com/2008/03/28/ubuntu-804-broadcom-wireless/
[22:24] <LunaFreeState> ariq: that is the idea
[22:24] <whabo> guuys i  have a small question .. how do you mount a .cue and a .bin file?????  thank you any help ?
[22:25] <Simonft> derek_: no idea, works for me. Ill put it in paste bin if you need me to
[22:25] <chris_420> at least the guts are haha
[22:25] <mojo> whabo::  i'd use bin2iso to convert, then mount the iso
[22:25] <ariqs> LunaFreeState: I live in the boonies, I'm not getting some random wireless signal, i assure you
[22:25] <LunaFreeState> ariq: if you are still on dial up you will get an error message that might just tell you what is going on or you will find out that is isn't dial up
[22:25] <serv1> anyone here install linux on a mac?
[22:25] <chris_420> okay im a burn the mondorescue.iso file haha.... hope it works and stuff
[22:25] <LunaFreeState> ariq: so you tryed it?
[22:26] <tmapj> can someone tell me how to install tor
[22:26] <adelejjeh> mojo: in the WW the warnings are: the directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist, and nvidea (GPU-0) unalbe to read EDID for display device CRT-1, and nvidea(0) no valid modes for 1600*1200@60);cemoving, and nvidea(0) option "addARGBVisuals" is not used, and NV(1) option addARGBVisuals is not used, it gave this twice, and finaly NV option NoLogo is not used
[22:26] <ariqs> i know it's dialup. I got the reconnecting modem sounds when I closed the terminal even
[22:26] <whabo> mojo : okay .. thx ill get the application .. but how do you mount an ido?
[22:26] <mojo> whabo::  but with the FUSE user-space file sytem architecture in place now, there could be a filesystem driver for .bin/.cue files.  search for " linux .bin .cue filesystem" on google"
[22:26] <whabo> iso
[22:26] <chris_420> < has seven nautilus dvd creator windows open haha
[22:26] <tmapj> can someone please tell me how to install tor
[22:26] <Anza> Hi, I accidentally removed the tray icons from the panel (amsn, nicotine, etc... active apps) how can I get them back? the tray icons? anyone knows?
[22:26] <LunaFreeState> ariq: but you comlain that you are still on line right
[22:26] <chris_420> anza
[22:26] <Slixxor> hey guys
[22:26] <Slixxor> cant work this one out
[22:26] <ariqs> yes luna, I can't disconnect.
[22:26] <Simonft> ]﻿Anza: right click add to pannel
[22:27] <ariqs> it will reconnect if I knock myself off as well
[22:27] <ariqs> but I have no control over it
[22:27] <LunaFreeState> is the terminal still up?
[22:27] <chris_420> left lick panel > add to panel serch notification
[22:27] <ariqs> no
[22:27] <adelejjeh> mojo: so?
[22:27] <ariqs> i closed it
[22:27] <Starnestommy> tmapj: sudo apt-get install tor.  You may need to enable the universe repositories in System > Administration > Software Sources
[22:27] <ariqs> it all started when i closed it
[22:27] <chris_420> anza  i had the same issue haha
[22:27] <mojo>  whabo http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-mount-iso-image-under-linux.html
[22:27] <LunaFreeState> try opening it running your dial up program and see what happens
[22:27] <ariqs> it says modem is busy
[22:28] <LunaFreeState> type in bg for back ground
[22:28] <whabo> mojo:  thank you so much maamn
[22:28] <Anza> chris_420, add to panel what?
[22:28] <mojo> adelejjeh::  well i don't *think* there is anything critical here... i believe it's saying it has no monitor connected to the second output, and the rest seems okay i think
[22:28] <ariqs> current: no such job
[22:28] <ibleed> ariqs, is there anyway to pass hayes commands directly to the modem?  i seem to remember something like +++  then ATH1
[22:28] <mojo> whabo::  it is man.  i know, it is hard to tell on irc
[22:29] <LunaFreeState> try the process window, do you know where that is?
[22:29] <ariqs> yes
[22:29] <adelejjeh> mojo: should i try to diconnect the second monitor, and then ill c if it works?
[22:29] <LunaFreeState> can you find the process
[22:29] <Nemeczek> hey, i use a radeon card + new drivers from hes site but i start the game in wine i got a black screnn, any ideas??
[22:29] <ariqs> but It's a giant mess and I don't know waht to look for. The process wvdial, what i use to connect, is not runing
[22:29] <shadowpool> brb
[22:29] <mojo> adelejjeh::  you have two?  well, that is a _possibility_ but hey why not try it and see.  i am coming to a loss
[22:29] <serv1> anyone use linux on mac?
[22:29] <Simonft> s﻿erv1: up
[22:29] <Simonft> **yup
[22:30] <LunaFreeState> ariq it should be on of the only ones active
[22:30] <ubuntuROX> Is it realistic that there have been no updates since release date?
[22:30] <serv1> Simonft are u able to use compiz and do the cube
[22:30] <chris_420> aight wish me luck haha
[22:30] <Slixxor> hi guys sorry
[22:30] <ariqs> the only thing flagged as runnins is gnome system monitor ;P
[22:30] <ariqs> the only thing flagged as running is
[22:31] <Simonft> ﻿serv1: nope, but that could be because I'm on a powerbook G4, which does not work with that stuff. google your model name and ubuntu
[22:31] <Anza> aright this was silly, thanks chris_420
[22:31] <marto> in 8.04 how do I get DVD menus working in Totem?
[22:31] <ubuntuROX> Has anyone else seen updates since release date?
[22:31] <LunaFreeState> ariq, that is strange i think you should reboot and try a new program to run your dial up
[22:31] <paule> ubuntuROX: No, I am pretty sure I installed two
[22:31] <chris_420> lol anza no prob glad to help
[22:31] <serv1> Simonft i think the video driver is not competable with my mac book
[22:32] <chris_420> im ooutty ya'lll
[22:32] <LunaFreeState> ariq first try logging out of gnome and login back in and try process again
[22:32] <ariqs> LunaFreeState: none of the other programs work! ): I use the same modem, same init string, and they don't detect the modem in the sme dev\ttyS1 path
[22:32] <chris_420> blaze one fuh ya boy haha....
[22:32] <Simonft> ﻿serv1: google it
[22:32] <ariqs> sme - same
[22:32] <tmapj> can anyone pls tell me how to install tor
[22:32] <kostas> hello
[22:32] <ubuntuROX> hmmmm,,, perhaps its just cause I was doing beta and used to so many every few days LOL,,, Im jonzin for updates
[22:32] <paule> ubuntuROX: Could be that it was some program I have installed... not sure, many are not out there
[22:32] <eugman> How do I search in the package descriptions with aptitude?
[22:32] <serv1> Simonft ok thanx
[22:32] <qwiksand> can WINE be used to install all programs that would work on windows?
[22:32] <mojo> tmapj::  it is in the repositories, use synaptic
[22:32] <kostas> how can i convert my default linux system to unstable ubuntu ?
[22:32] <kostas> how can i convert my default linux system to unstable ubuntu ?
[22:32] <kostas> ups. sorry
[22:32] <FloodBot2> kostas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ibleed> tmapj, google "install tor ubuntu"
[22:32] <mojo> tmapj::  i suggest privoxy along with it, and torbutton or foxy proxy in firefox
[22:33] <mojo> (add-on)
[22:33] <kostas> mojo: any idea ?
[22:33] <coldfire> for the record, the linksys wmp300n card is garbage (in ubuntu)
[22:33] <eugman> swiksand, many of them. There is a databse at winehq that covers what programs can be installed easily
[22:33] <LunaFreeState> ariq:  I can't help you then try googling the program name a long with a discription of the error and mozilla has a bug search engine that might help
[22:33] <P_Kable> Does somebody here with hardy uses wellsfargo online banking ?? If yes could you check if it works with firefox 3 beta ?? Please ...
[22:33] <qwiksand> eugman: whats the site?
[22:33] <mojo> kostas::  no,  if there were RC's out for 8.04.1 then you might be able to, but i don't know how to run the development versions.
[22:34] <adelejjeh> mojo: nothng happed
[22:34] <kostas> mojo:  thanks
[22:34] <P_Kable> www.wellsfargo.com
[22:34] <adelejjeh> mojo: same problem...
[22:34] <eugman> qwiksand, lemme check
[22:34] <mojo> adelejjeh::  i am sorry to say that i am at a loss at this point.  i hope you've learned something about x though.  i would be here asking for help at this point myself.
[22:34] <Simonft> ﻿coldfire hold on
[22:34] <P_Kable> you have to have an account to connect, of course
[22:34] <adelejjeh> mojo: hehehe
[22:34] <Simonft> coldfire: http://pastebin.com/m4717d6a2
[22:34] <kostas> mojo: btw: kaffeine at default installation is not able to playing videos.. of any type. jsut black screen.. any idea ?
[22:34] <mojo> adelejjeh::  if this box was a fresh install yo might consider re-installing.  though that feels like a very windowsy answer :(
[22:35] <kostas> mojo: mplayer with -vo xv is playing them fine
[22:35] <adelejjeh> mojo: im going to bed now... i ll try to do smthing 2morow
[22:35] <jordan> Hello - old (from Gutsy) Xorg.conf file (well -- the important screen / device / monitor sections) doesnt work in Hardy.  what gives?
[22:35] <eugman> qwiksand, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[22:35] <ibleed> P_Kable, you could try opera if firefox isn't working.  i'm not longer with them but i had issues in the past with firefox
[22:35] <mojo> kostas::  i use gnome, not kde/kubuntu
[22:35] <adelejjeh> mojo: maybe if i leave it for a while itll work...
[22:35]  * mojo did something terribly wrong, kostas thinks he's smart
[22:35] <coldfire> Simonft: thanks for the link, but i've tried everything ... the card just doesn't associate with my wrt54gl reliably at all
[22:35] <adelejjeh> mojo: ill be back here 2morow, and ill talk to u... maybe u got some new clues :P
[22:35] <mojo> adelejjeh::  i am here a lot, on and off
[22:36] <Simonft> ﻿coldfire: that's strange, maybe it is your indevidual card
[22:36] <coldfire> Simonft: sometimes it works at boot and then dies, other times it doesn't work at boot and i am able to get it working later ... sometimes it just doesn't want to work at all :/
[22:36] <adelejjeh> mojo: hehe ok.. cu... btw do u mind me asking, do u have an msn acount?
[22:36] <imac> I'm thinking about building my own computer and putting Ubuntu or Kubuntu on it. Stuff like the motherboard comes with driver cds, but they are for Windows only probably. How will I make sure I get everything out of the nvidia video card, motherboard, professor, whatever?
[22:36] <coldfire> Simonft: considering exchanging it for a wmp54g instead, but am afraid of the same problems
[22:37] <ibleed> imac, drivers are built into the kernel which gets updated and there is also the option to use restricted drivers (no source code released) from the repositories
[22:38] <Fogel1497> When I watch videos on youtube I don't have any sound, anyone know why? :'(
[22:38] <ibleed> imac, you've just got to make sure what you have works by googling model numbers
[22:38] <Simonft> ﻿Fogel1497: only youtube?
[22:38] <keaton> Could anyone tell me how to enable root login from the GDM login screen in Ubuntu?
[22:38] <ibleed> Fogel1497, that was fixed with me in hardy when i installed libflashsupport though from what people tell me its very buggy
[22:38] <Simonft> ﻿keaton: why do you want to?
[22:39] <Ruudboy73> Good evening all
[22:39] <Fogel1497> thanks iBleed ill give it a try
[22:39] <imac> ibleed: So you're saying that I don't need the cds? Do I just google "Intel D975XBX2 Motherboard + Ubuntu" and see if I get any its? Are you saying it should just be included with Ubuntu 8.04 and not to worry?
[22:39] <keaton> Simonft: heavy admin work, I need to adjust system-wide settings. Besides, we use root on all our other servers without a problem, it's just more convenient.
[22:39] <Starnestommy> keaton: but more insecure
[22:39] <funkyHat> I'm having trouble with getting compiz working on hardy with a mobility radeon 9600, anyone managed it?
[22:39] <Slix> hi guys
[22:40] <Slix> sorry about before
[22:40] <ng0n> whobuntu ?
[22:40] <keaton> Starnestommy: granted, this is true, but this server will be inaccessable from the internet anyway.
[22:40] <Simonft> just make yourself admin and use su
[22:40] <Slix> since upgrading to 8.04 i've had weird wireless issues
[22:40] <ibleed> imac you'd google "D9765BX2 ubuntu"  keeping things simple helps alot  if that doesn't come up with anything find the chipset and see if that chipset is supported
[22:40] <Simonft> ﻿Slix: let me guess, the wireless card is a broadcom
[22:40] <imac> and the netgear wireless adapter and all? I just have to google everything?
[22:40] <Slix> unsure to be honest. used to work fine on 7.04
[22:40] <ng0n> so..is it REALLY a good idea to NOT make your personal account an administrator account ?
[22:40] <Slix> 7.0*
[22:41] <Simonft> any one know how to find the wireless card, I forgot
[22:41] <donald__> how do i adjust volume in konsole
[22:41] <Simonft> !wireless
[22:41] <Starnestommy> ng0n: not exactly. You should not use root as a personal account, though
[22:41] <madmoomix> Hey guys.
[22:41] <madmoomix> I've got a GREAT one for you.
[22:41] <Slix> now it lets me connect but then randomly loses signal and it says the connection is present and varies in sig strength but its really not connected.
[22:41] <keaton> So, can someone tell me how to enable root or not? I'm aware of the implications, but this is a test server anyway, I'll disable it if it's too dangerous.
[22:41] <ng0n> Star:  OK.. i getcha
[22:42] <coldfire> Simonft: you using a wmp300n?
[22:42] <ng0n> tnx
[22:42] <donald__> how do i adjust volume in konsole?
[22:42] <imac> ibleed: for some reason the shorter search didn't show anything in google, but it did when I added keywords
[22:42] <sh1t> alsamixer in console
[22:42] <Simonft> coldfire, it's for slix
[22:42] <ceil420> alsamixer
[22:42] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿keaton: didn't catch your whole thread.  tried sudo su?
[22:42] <ror> my ralink wireless keeps cutting out after a while
[22:42] <madmoomix> I wanted to switch off of my old distro, so, I installed 8.04. Everything went great. Burned a disc, installed, no issues anywhere. Restarted into my new install, everything was wonderful.
[22:42] <ror> the interface ra0 just disappears
[22:43] <omnz0r> donald__: amixer sset Front,0 2%+
[22:43] <ibleed> imac good going imac
[22:43] <sh1t> donald__ type alsamixer
[22:43] <keaton> MatthewAPeters: I need to enable GUI root login. I can't get an answer out of anyone.
[22:43] <madmoomix> Then, I updated everything through Synaptic. It told me I needed to restart. I did. GRUB stops being able to boot the kernal.
[22:43] <Starnestommy> keaton: there's an AllowRoot setting in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[22:43] <Duke16> eaw pessoal tudo bem?
[22:43] <Duke16> to com um problema ak
[22:43] <keaton> Starnestommy: Thanks, man.
[22:43] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿keaton: no such thing in ubuntu
[22:44] <MatthewAPeters> ﻿keaton: why do you need?
[22:44] <jrib> !pt | Duke16
[22:44] <donald__> thanx
[22:44] <madmoomix> I figure I've fubar'd GRUB, and it's a new install. So, I decide to re-install. Here's where it gets good.
[22:44] <Simonft> slix, lspci
[22:44] <Duke16> ubottu, foi mau nem reparei q entrei no errado esqueci o br
[22:44] <madmoomix> The live CD NO LONGER BOOTS THE UBUNTU KERNAL.
[22:44] <yasser> HI PPL
[22:44] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[22:44] <madmoomix> But, the disc is 100%, and my computer is working fine.
[22:44] <h00k> madmoomix: doesn't boot from itself?
[22:44] <omnz0r> OMG, LETS ALL WRITE IN CAPS
[22:44] <Gun_Smoke> Whats the easy way for a wireless laptop and a wired desktop to see each other over a home network?
[22:44] <madmoomix> Because it boots other linux distros fine.
[22:45] <h00k> madmoomix:  the CD doesn't boot the kernel on the LiveCD?
[22:45] <madmoomix> h00k, it won't boot from the live CD, it just hangs the CPU after the "Loading the kernal - 100%" bit.
[22:45] <adimichele> *takes three deep breaths as he tries to embrace Ubuntu finally*
[22:45] <Hssn> I've install kubuntu besides ubuntu. they were 2 different desktop without any interfering. I install Edubuntu but its not a another desktop enviroment. it mess up my ubuntu. and just add  some program to my ubuntu! did i do anything wrong?
[22:45] <Gun_Smoke> Both are running 8.04
[22:45] <madmoomix> h00k, yes.
[22:45] <AlabamaHit> If I install Kubuntu Live Cd from the Synaptic will that install Kubuntu? Like another Session? And will it change my install I have already. any?
[22:45] <h00k> madmoomix: that does sound fun, and I have no idea how to help you :)
[22:46] <madmoomix> XD
[22:46]  * h00k apologizes
[22:46] <madmoomix> No worries.
[22:46] <jablko> is there a particular syntax for linking from ubuntu wiki pages to ubuntu package pages?
[22:46] <sevenfoot> anyone useing ubuntu studio?
[22:46] <|Dreams|> i am trying to install a theme for gnome how do i install the dev packages for gnome?
[22:46] <AlabamaHit> what is ubuntu studio?
[22:46] <madmoomix> It's assuredly the weirdest problem I've ever seen any distro have.
[22:46] <svl> Something in Ubuntu 8.04 is preventing the assignment of win-L e.a. keyboard shortcuts from performing the action I associated with them under system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts. These assignments _do_ work under Kubuntu 8.04. Anyone have any idea where I could look to find out what it taking up those shortcuts?
[22:47] <sevenfoot> ubuntu studio is setup for audio/graphics/movies only with low latency kernel
[22:47] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  it is a "flavor" of ubuntu that includes a lot of audio production and some video & graphics apps, and a new theme, and uses the realtime kernel for low-latency audio procesing
[22:47] <Gun_Smoke> svl: Keybindings?
[22:47] <dimitree> #D# Test Command please ?
[22:47] <omnz0r> AlabamaHit: It's a distro packed with apps for sound/video/etc. editing - ubuntustudio.org
[22:47] <Simonft> !ubntustudio
[22:47] <sevenfoot> i need some soundcard help with it please?
[22:47] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  you can install it by installing "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-studio" at the command line
[22:47] <dimitree> D3D (direct 3d) Test Command please ?
[22:47] <imac> I tried a virtual machine of ubuntu and wine and it just didn't seem to let me install much or run much. internet explorer 6 seemed to dissappear, I tried IE 7 but it woudln't unzip and IE 6 woudln't install. Yahoo messenger coudln't finish the sign-in. installing encarta or microosft works coudn't complete. old win 95 software I have woudln't start. WHAT? Will it work in a real install (not...
[22:47] <imac> ...vmware?)
[22:48] <Gun_Smoke> svl: System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts   ??
[22:48] <sevenfoot> i have terratect ews88mt
[22:48] <madmoomix> So, anyone else? Somehow, a bad install of Ubuntu made my computer unable to boot the kernal on the live CD, despite functioning fine everywhere else.
[22:48] <sevenfoot> terratec
[22:48] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  my bad, it is "sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop" to get the ubuntu studio themes and apps installed
[22:48] <AlabamaHit> mojo: So its a brand of Ubutnu like Kubuntu and Mint and such? And if i install it will it be added as a Session? Cause I like my Ubuntu the way it is I wouldnt want to mess it up.
[22:48] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  and kernel ;)
[22:49] <Gun_Smoke> madmoomix: It sounds like the CD is no good.  Have you tried to reburn it?
[22:49] <Simonft> !ubntu studio
[22:49] <AlabamaHit> mojo: its in sypantic...
[22:49] <sbox> hello all, could anyone tell me the command to copy the contents of one folder to another?
[22:49] <Gun_Smoke> madmoomix: errr.. burn another..
[22:49] <madmoomix> Gun_Smoke, yes. And every time, I check it. Always comes out fine.
[22:49] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  it is a meta-package defining different artwork and a different set of applications.  but you will still have your old programs intact.
[22:49] <svl> Gun_Smoke: I've assigned them there. But they don't work. (That is, if I set "Search" to Mod4+R, it does work, but if I choose Mod4+F, it doesn't.)
[22:49] <Simonft> ﻿sbox: use nautilus
[22:49] <madmoomix> And for good measure, I had someone else burn a copy, just in case. Still fails the same way.
[22:49] <Larose> A friend of mine has a slow internet connection. He would like to upgrade from hardy to gutsy. I would like to download the packages he needs and burns it on a cd. What is the best procedure to upgrade its computer?
[22:49] <Gun_Smoke> svl: I have no idea..
[22:50] <sbox> Simonft: it's on a server, and when transfering via SFTP i've got a permissions issue
[22:50] <yjlee> After upgrading to the latest version (8.04), my mediawiki stopped working. How can I fix this problem?
[22:50] <mojo> Larose::  download the install CD and use it to upgrade.  when he puts it in his box, it will be recognized as having software on it to install
[22:50] <zoldar> hello, I have problem with printing jpg / tiff images. Print option is inactive when these are opened. However printing pdf documents works fine. What
[22:50] <svl> Gun_Smoke: so "something" is reserving some of the key-combos, and I have no idea where even to begin looking. :/
[22:50] <zoldar> What = Why ?
[22:50] <mojo> Larose::  it will ask if he wants to do it
[22:50] <AlabamaHit> mojo: so it don't had a new session..it installs over my currrent install..is that correct? And if i did Kubuntu Live CD from synaptic would it do the same or add a session?
[22:50] <omnz0r> sbox: http://files.fosswire.com/wpu/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[22:50] <sevenfoot> can someone help me with ubuntu studio and terratec ews88mt please?
[22:50] <moon`> how do I change the bindings on my mouse?
[22:50] <Simonft> ﻿sbox: permissions with the server or with ubuntu?
[22:50] <Larose> mojo: but a huge list of package to upgrade will be asked to download ?
[22:50] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  yeah
[22:50] <sbox> Simonft: with ubuntu
[22:50] <sbox> Simonft: opps
[22:51] <sbox> with the ubuntu server
[22:51] <matt____> i have a server running ubuntu server edition, after a power flicker...i can no longer ssh into the box. The machine is downstairs and on. What could be causing this? Besides disk corruption, are there any "common" errors after power flickers?
[22:51] <Flare183> !enter | sbox
[22:51] <sbox> Simonft: basically, if I can use sudo it will be ok
[22:51] <mojo> Larose::  you can install from the cd, which has newer packages.  they will all be hardy packages, not gutsy ones, so that should not be a problem.  now after you install from that, the next "upgrade" will find newer hardy packages on-line
[22:51] <AlabamaHit> mojo: Was that a yes that the Live CDs from synaptic package adds a new session? or do they install over current install also
[22:51] <shadowpool> ﻿matt____: Can you ping it?
[22:51] <manifest_> THANKYOU who ever helped me
[22:51] <Simonft> ﻿sbox: use su, then you only have to do it once
[22:52] <patoo> .list
[22:52] <phoenix5002> Can someone please help me get hibernation or suspend working, either one will do.
[22:52] <Gun_Smoke> madmoomix: So the install bombed and now you can't load the kernel image from a live CD correc
[22:52] <mojo> AlabamaHit::  i don't know about the livecd packages in synaptic.
[22:52] <manifest_> i got my dualboot fully working
[22:52] <MrKeuner> hi, I use hardy and I like it a lot. However every once in a while system starts responding late for a short time and then recovers. I see that system load average has increased without much increase in cpu usage or in memory usage. Why would that happen?
[22:52] <guest> anyone in here know how difficult/easy it is to get suspend/sleep to work?
[22:52] <sbox> Simonft: but i can't do it through sftp so I need to do it via command
[22:52] <zoldar> sorry, forgot to tell the program's name - i'm having problems with evince
[22:52] <madmoomix> Gun_Smoke, that is correct.
[22:52] <ror> my desktop has broken, I've lost background and all icons :(
[22:52] <Flare183> patoo: Don't try to hack the bot
[22:52] <Judg3_Dr34D> hi all, can someone tell me the command to set the right screen resolution, i'm running ubuntu hardy heron.
[22:52] <Gun_Smoke> madmoomix: Have you tried the alternateCD?
[22:52] <Ruudboy73> After installing 8.04 on my HP Pavillion dv9255ea notebook, the ethernet card is not working. It is an Intel 82573L card. I have already tried modprobe e1000e, still no eth0.
[22:52] <omnz0r> MrKeuner: downloading torrents or something like that?
[22:52] <Ruudboy73> can someone help with this?
[22:53] <Flare183> !ask
[22:53] <r3n0c> hey, does somebody know if there is a command to get the bandwith useage of the users in a proftp server?
[22:53] <madmoomix> Gun_Smoke, no. I shall try that now, as it seems this place is busy, and I want to get out of your hair XD
[22:53] <MrKeuner> omnz0r: nope, but even then shouldn't cpu or memory increase along with the system load average?
[22:53] <yjlee> Can someone help me with mediawiki problem? After upgrading to 8.04, mediawiki stopped working.
[22:53] <omnz0r> well, it can explain slow response times
[22:53] <Simonft> sbox: The cp -r command will copy any directories you specify.
[22:53] <phoenix5002> can anyone offer me some help on how I can get hibernate and suspend working.  It's not working for me, either one.
[22:53] <omnz0r> just my standard answer to slow response times at work
[22:53] <omnz0r> because people rarely thionk about it
[22:53] <LGKeiz> Anyone have information for ndiswrapper on 8.04
[22:53] <codecaine> hi I installed ktorrent when I click on it to open it doesn't do anything any solutions?
[22:54] <Girltalk> r2n0c, the development tree of the synaptic package manager has a lot of analysis tools. read their descriptions, i've used many over the years
[22:54] <MrKeuner> omnz0r: i do not have p2p on my laptop, they work on my desktop
[22:54] <Simonft> !ndiswrapper
[22:54] <Gun_Smoke> madmoomix: Thats a good idea..  The alternateCD will 95% work just fine for you.
[22:54] <codecaine> same when I do it in terminal it just stays there no warning commands or anything
[22:54] <wigglez> hey, ubuntu isnt detecting my monitor correctly..
[22:54] <zoldar> sorry for repeating, but I made a few mistakes. Problem with printing in evince: pdf - it's working; tiff/jpeg - print option is inactive. Why ?
[22:54] <wigglez> its only reading 50Hz instead of 85
[22:54] <sbox> Simonft: thing, i need to copy the contents from one directory to another directory
[22:54] <wigglez> how to fix this?
[22:54] <LGKeiz> Yeah. 8.04 isn't there.
[22:54] <r3n0c> Girltalk, where in there?
[22:55] <Simonft> sbox: The mv (MoVe) command will rename/move any file or directory you specify
[22:55] <MrKeuner> how can I see which application is causing the increase in system-load-average metric
[22:55] <Gun_Smoke> svl: Look at the keyboard option.. Make sure you have the correct keyboard.
[22:55] <LGKeiz> There is no ndiswrapper on 8.04 in the doc.
[22:55] <sbox> Simonft: so sudo mv test /test/test/test? sorry if this is stupidly simple
[22:55] <Gun_Smoke> svl: Just above Keyboard Shortcuts.
[22:55] <fractal420> is gdesklets about the best it gets in widgets still or is there a better alternative?
[22:55] <mojo> MrKeuner::  that is an excellent question and i would also very much like to know how.  top has been useless to me, though it may be that i don't know how to use it properly.
[22:56] <dimitree> How can i make fgl_glxgears command to work
[22:56] <guest> fractal420, you can try screenlets
[22:56] <MrPockets> one can configure Evolution to work in unison with Yahoo mail, no?
[22:56] <MrKeuner> mojo: someone told me that it is the difference between two columns in top or htop
[22:56] <Simonft> ﻿sbox: I think
[22:57] <sergiuu> hello
[22:57] <sp3000> sbox: cp -r source/directory/. target/directory/
[22:57] <AlabamaHit> Is there a easy way to add a User to phpmyadmin? LIke a command for terminal
[22:57] <MrKeuner> mojo: I wonder if there is a better explanation for that
[22:57] <mojo> MrKeuner::  yeah, i have tried to use both when i have had load problems and could not make heads or tails out of it
[22:57] <sergiuu> i have installed the ubuntu, but i can't find the administration tool that change the screen resolution.
[22:57] <sp3000> sbox: of course if you need to preserve various properties of the files you'll want to read man cp
[22:57] <mojo> MrKeuner::  well load is a metric in top too, there shold be a methodology for finding it's source
[22:57] <sergiuu> ubuntu 8.04
[22:57] <svl> Gun_Smoke: it's a laptop keyboard, the model of which isn't in there - so it's set to Generic 105-key (Intl) PC - would you recommend something else?
[22:57] <Simonft> MrPockets: http://gopalkoduri.wordpress.com/2006/06/23/configuring-evolution-mail-to-work-with/
[22:57] <Ruudboy73> sergiuu > system> preferences > screen resolution
[22:57] <mojo> MrKeuner::  mabye we should ask in the gentoo forums :p
[22:58] <Gun_Smoke> svl: I couldn't say.. I have the same..
[22:58] <gaspipe1> sup people
[22:58] <sbox> Simonft: kk much appreciated
[22:58] <LGKeiz> Anyone have information for ndiswrapper for ubuntu 8.04.
[22:58] <SilverReadman> How do I find a list of installed hardware such as my graphics card in 8.04?
[22:58] <shadowpool> ubottu: list
[22:58] <MrPockets> thanks man
[22:58] <Girltalk> r3n0c, if you start looking through the Synaptic package Manager --> development, you will find many small scalable open source solutions such as packet sniffers, bandwidth and cpu resource tracking, and other free snippets of software that I'm sure with some light alterations could be made to do a wide variety of tasks
[22:58] <mojo> SilverReadman::  hwinfo
[22:58] <redbox> !ndiswrapper | LGKeiz
[22:58] <trond-> sergiuu: under system preferences
[22:58] <LGKeiz> For the 3rd time, I've been there.
[22:58] <sp3000> SilverReadman: lspci will list some stuff
[22:58] <LGKeiz> There is no 8.04 doc's
[22:58] <MrKeuner> mojo: I just found some information here: .getCoord()
[22:58] <tyrone> HI how can i make emerald my default window decoration?
[22:58] <svl> Gun_Smoke: does assigning win-L or win-F or win-E to an action work for you?
[22:58] <Ruudboy73> After installing 8.04 on my HP Pavillion dv9255ea notebook, the ethernet card is not working. It is an Intel 82573L card. I have already tried modprobe e1000e, still no eth0. Any suggestions?
[22:58] <redbox> LGKeiz: maybe you should ask a more specific question then.
[22:58] <sergiuu> ﻿Ruudboy73, from there is available only  800 x 600 as the highest resolution..
[22:58] <MrKeuner> mojo: hehe sorry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)
[22:58] <tyrone> it only works when I type emerald --replace
[22:59] <Gun_Smoke> svl: Let me try..
[22:59] <mojo> MrKeuner::  .getcoord???
[22:59] <MrKeuner> mojo: my java method
[22:59] <Gun_Smoke> svl: You mean <super> I believe
[22:59] <guest> tyrone, in the compiz settings, under the window manager set emerald as the window manager
[22:59] <mojo> k, looking now MrKeuner
[22:59] <sp3000> SilverReadman: also, system -> settings -> devices (strings vary, mine is not english)
[22:59] <LGKeiz> redbox; I need ndiswrapper that is qualified for 8.04.
[22:59] <r3n0c> Girltalk,  do you know of any that would work with proftp to monitor the amt of traffic used by connected users? thats all i want, a bandwith counter really, but ftptop and ftpwho don't have that
[22:59] <SilverReadman> Mojo: Thanks much
[22:59] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[22:59] <Ruudboy73> sergiuu, then you might have the wrong video card specified
[22:59] <mojo> SilverReadman::  np
[22:59] <Simonft> ﻿LGKeiz: just get the latest one
[22:59] <mojo> MrKeuner::  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)
[23:00] <tyrone> guest, where is that exactly?
[23:00] <mojo> MrKeuner::  well hang on...
[23:00] <Gun_Smoke> LGKeiz: Go to the website and read about it.  I'd like to know as well.. Let me know what you find out.
[23:00] <LGKeiz> from?.. the docs?
[23:00] <Gun_Smoke> yep
[23:00] <sergiuu> ﻿Ruudboy73, i haven't specificed anything..
[23:00] <bleedingmoon> what is the command for lunching gedit?
[23:00] <LGKeiz> 2.2.1. Gutsy Gibbon (7.10), Feisty Fawn (7.04), and Edgy Eft (6.10) .. >.>
[23:00] <Flare183> bleedingmoon: gedit
[23:00] <drumline> I'm going to be setting up a workstation for a client pretty soon with 4 monitors with Ubuntu.  Is that an easy task?
[23:00] <bleedingmoon> thanks
[23:00] <Simonft> ﻿LGKeiz: http://ankurs.com/2008/04/installing-ndiswrapper-on-ubuntu-804/
[23:00] <omnz0r> http://ankurs.com/2008/04/installing-ndiswrapper-on-ubuntu-804/
[23:00] <guest> tyrone, do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[23:00] <svl> Gun_Smoke: I don't really know what I mean - it's the physical "win" key. I _think_ it's <super by default, but if I look at the countless confusing options under layout options -> alt/win key behaviour, I'm not so certain anymore. (changing those doesn't seem to have any effect, either...)
[23:00] <Gun_Smoke> LGKeiz:  You can also compile anything you'd like.
[23:00] <tyrone> guest, yes
[23:00] <Flare183> that was ovious
[23:00] <dimitree> How can i make fgl_glxgears command to work
[23:00] <mojo> MrKeuner::  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&hs=x4e&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=linux+load+average+how+to+troubleshoot&spell=1
[23:01] <sergiuu> ﻿Ruudboy73, i remember, there was in ubuntu 7.10 an administrative application that permits to select the monitor model, resolution ..
[23:01] <Gun_Smoke> svl:  Lemme play for a second.
[23:01] <ror> can anyone help? since the last time I restarted I've lost all desktop icons and background
[23:01] <surplusxmas> Windows installer always leaves 8.2MB free when partitioning. is this also necessary in ext3 and LVM syatems?
[23:01] <whiteeagle> how can I go to the trash can folder from the terminal?
[23:01] <surplusxmas> systems*
[23:01] <sp3000> ror, do you get a context menu if you right-click on the desktop?
[23:01] <LGKeiz> brb
[23:01] <whiteeagle> what do I need to type in terminal so it could go in the trash folder
[23:02] <Simonft> whiteeagle: trash:///
[23:02] <guest> can you launch it tyrone ?
[23:02] <shadowpool> ubottu: list Geekquote
[23:02] <absnt> How can I install vista to my 2nd hdd and keep grub for booting?
[23:02] <Girltalk> r2n0c, give me a second
[23:02] <Ruudboy73> sergiuu : try system>administration > screens and graphics. You can specify graphics card there
[23:02] <whiteeagle> Simonft: yeah but what do I need to type in terminal to go into it?
[23:02] <tyrone> guest, yes but i don't know where to pick my windows decorator
[23:02] <Simonft> ﻿whiteeagle: cd then that
[23:02] <Gun_Smoke> svl: what action are you after?
[23:02] <ror> sp3000, nope
[23:02] <bleedingmoon> and how im creating a nice icon (or where is the gedit icon)?
[23:02] <sp3000> ror, guess nautilus went away, I get that sometimes when I have some unreachable mounts while shutting down .. run nautilus&disown
[23:02] <whiteeagle> Simonft: I can't just type trash:/// and it goes to it
[23:03] <codecaine> I can't get any kde application to load on ubuntu hard any solutions?
[23:03] <whiteeagle> Simonft: or cd trash:/// either, that doesn't work
[23:03] <danny6167> absnt: make sure you select you secound HDD when installing vista, then add this new instalation in to grub config
[23:03] <guest> tyrone, look under "effects" for the "window decoration"
[23:03] <Dr_Link> I'm on 7.10, the update manager is telling me I should upgrade to 8.04 LTS, should I do it?
[23:03] <ror> sp3000, that didn't fix it
[23:03] <sergiuu> ﻿Ruudboy73, but there isn't that you specify, a am lookiing for screens and graphics too and can't reach it there :D
[23:03] <absnt> danny6167: but wont vista replace grub with its own bootloader?
[23:03] <tyrone> ok and where do I write emerald?
[23:03] <sp3000> ror, or possibly picking a folder from the places menu might get it to do the desktop thing
[23:03] <sp3000> ror, or it could be something else :)
[23:04] <tyrone> guest, on command?
[23:04] <svl> Gun_Smoke: win-E for "Home folder", win-L for "Lock screen". And absolutely ideally just the win key by itself (so not as a modifier) for "show the panel menu" - but let's consider that a second phase.
[23:04] <guest> tyrone, yes
[23:04] <Judg3_Dr34D> hi all, can someone tell me the command to set the right screen resolution, i'm running ubuntu hardy heron.
[23:04] <Simonft> whiteeagle: why do you need to?
[23:04] <fractal420> the screenlets download only say gutsy.. will this work fine with HH also?
[23:04] <MrKeuner> mojo: actually that wikipedia article is explaining rather well
[23:04] <Dr_Link> Should I upgrade?
[23:04] <tyrone> guest, is it emerald-decorator o just emerald?
[23:04] <danny6167> absnt: AFIK it will install its own bootloader on the disk you install vista on
[23:04] <ror> I killed the nautilus that was running
[23:04] <ror> reopening after that it's back
[23:04] <ror> but this whole hardy install is REALLY unstable
[23:04] <MrKeuner> mojo: For example, a load average of 3.73 on a single-CPU system can be interpreted as: during the last minute, the CPU was overloaded by 273% (1 CPU with 3.73 runnable processes, so that 2.73 processes were waiting for their turn)
[23:04] <SilverReadman> Last time I installed 8.04, my graphics card was disabled and enabling it got me the drivers needed. Then I had to delete the partition and reinstall. This time the card was enabled but "not in use" any ideas on making it work so I can use it?
[23:04] <bruenig> !iso
[23:04] <ror> my network keeps going down too :(
[23:04] <tyrone> guest, I wrote /usr/bin/emerald on command but is not working
[23:04] <guest> tyrone,  i dont recall, you might want to try "emerald --replace"
[23:04] <MR-REznOr> hello?
[23:04] <absnt> danny6167: so then when I boot up, which one will take over? I would think it would be the vista one
[23:04] <whiteeagle> Simonft: I want to know
[23:04] <ror> gutsy was nothing but perfect for me too
[23:05] <ror> :(
[23:05] <SilverReadman> I tried getting the latest drivers, but that hasn't worked so far.
[23:05] <whiteeagle> i know its possible
[23:05] <Girltalk> r3n0c, under Networking (Universe), there are two terminal-based apps that could be used to monitor bandwidth with different users. They are tcpick and tcptrack
[23:05] <sergiuu> :(
[23:05] <danny6167> absnt: the default boot disk is set in bios
[23:05]  * sp3000 feeds whiteeagle an apostrophe
[23:05] <paulcross> dd
[23:05] <absnt> danny6167: ahh didn't think about that.. right, ok thanks
[23:05] <Gun_Smoke> svl: I have <Super L> home folder working fine..
[23:05] <svl> Gun_Smoke: win-R and win-D _do_ work for me. (the former only after disabling compiz, which had assigned it to some kind of zoom functionality)
[23:05] <tyrone> guest, it doesn't work
[23:05] <fractal420> ﻿ the screenlets download only say gutsy.. will this work fine with HH also?
[23:06] <r3n0c> Girltalk, thanks, i'll give them a try
[23:06] <codecaine> can anybody get kde programs to load on hardy?
[23:06] <came0> hey where is my .xinitrc file in ubunutu?  I'm trying to add another window manager, and the instructions are to appened to ~/.xinitrc... but there is no file with that name in my home directory!
[23:06] <reya276> heelo
[23:06] <reya276> hello
[23:06] <ror> it's just really frustrating that since upgrading I have to fiddle about choosing -generic not -386 to get it to boot at all and then after that my network crashes constantly and I'm having all these other issues
[23:06] <tyrone> does anyone know how to set emerald my default window decorator?
[23:06] <kitche> came0: have to create it
[23:06] <paulcross> Several windows placed at a top high position when opened. I couldn't move them. How to fix it.
[23:06] <Judg3_Dr34D> SilverReadman: i had problems with nvidia drivers, so I uninstalled nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-modules-generic and Hardware Drivers, rebooted and reinstalled them. Problem fixed!
[23:06] <reya276> having some issues connecting to my work PC for some reason my ssh is not working something about a Key issue
[23:06] <came0> codecaine: yes
[23:07] <Girltalk> r3n0c: if you have any background in network administration or programming, i think you'll find that those packages would be easy to alter to fill lots of networking needs
[23:07] <codecaine> how did you fix it? came0?
[23:07] <shadowpool> !factoids
[23:07] <came0> codecaine: just works
[23:07] <codecaine> hmm
[23:07] <svl> Gun_Smoke: using which layout option for win/alt key? And does keyboard shortcuts actually show "Super" for you? For me it's showing "Mod4"
[23:07] <guest> tyrone, have you tried using the gnome-compiz-manager? its a tray icon where you can select window manger and many other options very easily
[23:07] <SilverReadman> Judg3_Dr34D: How exactly would I go about doing that?
[23:07] <danny6167> Any one know a command to enable and disable compiz?
[23:08] <shyster317> tyrone do you have fusion icon
[23:08] <Gun_Smoke> svl: I have the Gen 105 intel.. And the Windows key is called the Super L key.
[23:08] <Judg3_Dr34D> SilverReadman: through Synaptic you remove completely nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted-modules
[23:08] <kitche> danny6167: umm metacity --replace to disable and compiz --replace to enable
[23:08] <Gun_Smoke> svl: Have you tried to run gconf?
[23:08] <SilverReadman> Then reinstall them through Synaptic?
[23:08] <tyrone> guest, E: Couldn't find package gnome-compiz-manager gnome-compiz-manager
[23:08] <kitche> danny6167: if your using kwm then it would be kwm --replace instead
[23:09] <Judg3_Dr34D> SilverReadman: and Hardware drivers from Applications --> Add/Remove
[23:09] <reya276> can anyone help?
[23:09] <tyrone> shyster317, i am sorry what do you mean by icon?
[23:09] <guest> tyrone, use the one shyster317 said, its called "fusion-icon"
[23:09] <paulcross> danny6167,  kill the compiz-real process will stop the compiz
[23:09] <svl> Gun_Smoke: ah yes, seeing that now - with win/alt default, you can't use the win key as a modifier, and then it's "Super L"
[23:09] <reya276> need to clear an SSH connection but I don't know how
[23:09] <tyrone> guest, what is fusion icon?
[23:09] <shyster317> tyrone go to package manager and install fusion-icon
[23:09] <codecaine> I think kde server is not working correcting on my hardy :/
[23:09] <mojo> MrKeuner::  look into vmstat iostat mpstat top/htop ... i have to run
[23:09] <sergiuu> does anyone know how to install the graphical GUI for x.org in ubuntu 8.04
[23:09] <paulcross> Several windows placed at a too high position when opened. I couldn't move them. How to fix it.
[23:09] <guest> fusion-icon "This package contains a tray icon that can launch Compiz and its decorators."
[23:09] <tyrone> ok thanks
[23:10] <codecaine> teachs me lessons about upgrading when everything already running good lol
[23:10] <GaintSura> tyranos_: I tried what you said with ndiswrapper and whatnot, but I'm still unable to connect to any wireless network. Also, I could not add ath_pci into the /etc/modules, but everything else went fine
[23:10] <sp3000> reya276: "something about a Key issue" is vague, use actual googleable strings output by the program if it gives you such
[23:10] <sergiuu> i have enabled the restreicted drivers, and my screen resolution size is 640
[23:10] <shyster317> tyrone let me know when that is installed and i will tell you the rest
[23:10] <sergiuu> can't change this..
[23:10] <mortena76876> how do i check the kernel-header verion???
[23:10] <tyrone> shyster317, i installed it already
[23:11] <noodlesgc> ﻿mortena76876 uname -r
[23:11] <mortena76876> thx
[23:11] <tyranos_> GaintSura, how come u could not add the ath_pci to the /etc/modules , have u tried sudo gedit /etc/modules
[23:11] <noodlesgc> ﻿mortena76876 no problem
[23:11] <whiteeagle> Ok
[23:11] <whiteeagle> I found it
[23:11] <tyranos_> and u neet to reboot GaintSura
[23:11] <dimitree> How can i install sudo apt-get install w32codecs ? it doesn't work ?
[23:11] <whiteeagle> it was in .local/share/Trash
[23:11] <svl> Gun_Smoke: I've started it - but have no idea what I'd be looking at in there
[23:11] <shyster317> trone go to applications, system tools, and hit compiz fusion icon
[23:11] <GaintSura> tyranos_: no I did not, but I will try that
[23:11] <jrib> !w32codecs > dimitree (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:11] <dimitree> ty
[23:12] <Sylphid|work> can someone help me with a static ip problem
[23:12] <GaintSura> tyranos_: once the ath_pci is in /etc/modules I should see ath0 in iwconfig/ifconfig right?
[23:12] <tyranos_> Gaintsutra , after reboot ,
[23:12] <GaintSura> ok
[23:12] <danny6167> Sylphid|work: need to ask a question
[23:12] <Sylphid|work> can someone help me with a static ip problem
[23:12] <shyster317> tyrone?
[23:12] <GaintSura> I'll try tha, thanks ago
[23:12] <Sylphid|work> on 7.10 i have a static ip assigned via /etc/interfaces... when networking is started this works fine however over night the system does a dhcp request and the static gets thrown out the window    http://paste.ubuntu.com/9008/
[23:12] <GaintSura> again*
[23:12] <wigglez> uh
[23:12] <guest> tyrone, go to applications> System Tools> Compiz Fusion Icon. right click on the icon in your system tray and then go down to select window manager from there
[23:13] <wigglez> why the hell wont it let me access my windows partition
[23:13] <wigglez> it says NTFS is in use.
[23:13] <Gun_Smoke> svl: you have compiz installed?
[23:13] <wigglez> but its not
[23:13] <|moe|> Hi, is it possible to export an ubuntu-installation to another partition and make this one bootable without problems (just changing fstab) or are there any traps?
[23:13] <sergiuu> I HaVE STUCK AT 640 x 480 SCREEN SIZE
[23:13] <tyrone> shyster317, ok thanks it is working now
[23:13] <|moe|> the ubuntu installation was made with wubi
[23:13] <fifthrune> can someone help me with 915resolution problem? I upgraded to Hardy but for some reason it is still controlling my graphics because when I uninstall it I can't get 1440X900 resolution anymore.  I suspect it may have to do with a hibernate issue I also have so please if anyone can help I would really appreciate it.
[23:13] <wigglez> nvm
[23:13] <wigglez> forced mounted it
[23:13] <jrib> wigglez: really? it says exactly "ntfs is in use" and nothing more?
[23:13] <shyster317> guest thanks
[23:14] <guest> np
[23:14] <highdoses> Hey guys what is the best cliental/networking software????
[23:14] <Fogel1497> Hey I installed LibFlashSupport but i still dont have any sound on youtube or other flash videos
[23:14] <svl> Gun_Smoke: yes, it's installed (clean default Ubuntu 8.04 install here) - but I've set apeparance -> visual effects to "None", as it had that zoom effect interfere with the win-R shortcut.
[23:14] <sergiuu> )))))))
[23:14] <fifthrune> Fogel: search in forums, I had same problem but there is a fix for it through the terminal
[23:14] <sp3000> Sylphid|work: perhaps networkmanager is doing something funny? click on the networkish icon on the taskbar and play with the manual settings bit perhaps?
[23:14] <CyberGabber> sergiuu: Try ctrl-alt-plus / ctrl-alt-minus to change resolution...
[23:14] <aubade> Let's say I made a separate partition and then mounted it as /home, is my /home dir as it existed on my first partition just hidden when something else is mounted on its path?
[23:14] <tyrone> guest, thanks :)
[23:14] <svl> Gun_Smoke: (Plus I'm no fan of most of the visual effects it created anyway.)
[23:15] <MR-REznOr> hello?
[23:15] <sp3000> Sylphid|work: that said, can't recall if its default
[23:15] <sp3000> it's!
[23:15]  * sp3000 flogs self
[23:15] <guest> you're welcome
[23:15] <sergiuu> ﻿CyberGabber, wha?? ctrl+alt+plus ))))))))))
[23:15] <Sylphid|work> sp3000, sorry forgot to mention ... im not running X only cli
[23:15] <sergiuu> ))))))) dont wokr
[23:15] <aubade> Nevermind, I just mounted the first partition elsewhere and sure enough. X)
[23:15] <danny6167> Sylphid|work: you can always fall back on setting the DHCP server in your router to reserv the IP for your computers MAC address if you dont find a fix
[23:15] <sergiuu> dosen't
[23:16] <reya276> ﻿sp3000: I'm trying to connect to my work PC but for some reason I can't it says that "Error: Host key verification failed
[23:16] <reya276> Please select another viewer and try again."
[23:16] <sergiuu> why you removed the nice Gui programs for editing for x.org :(
[23:16] <Sylphid|work> danny6167, unfortunaly thats not an option as the dhcp server is on the ISP network
[23:16] <jrib> sergiuu: hmm?
[23:17] <merc567> Would anyone happen to know if it is better to use cedega or wine when installing WoW?
[23:17] <sergiuu> why you removed graphical tool for configuring X.Org for ubuntu 8.04 ? To make life of beginner harder?
[23:17] <Centaur5> Could anybody recommend the best brand for well supported hardware SATA raid controllers?
[23:17] <jordan> How can I do a custom resolution of 1136x648 in Hardy??
[23:17] <danny6167> Sylphid|work: your ISP assighnes your local IP address?
[23:17] <jrib> sergiuu: it wasn't removed?
[23:17] <sp3000> reya276: hrm, if you were using plain ssh I might recognize what it's saying, for instance about a host identification having changed (which is suspicious unless you know it's benign)
[23:17]  * sp3000 sleeps
[23:17] <blah569> How do you use Emerald themes?  Whenever I import them, how do you use them?  I double click on them, and I have tried a multitude of objects, but nothing has worked.
[23:17] <SilverReadman> Judg3_Dr34D: What if non e of those things are installed?
[23:18] <HermanChess> can I replace pulseaudio with ESD ?
[23:18] <sergiuu> jrib, i can't find this tool on ubuntu 8.04 ,  i just installed it. If it's possible to install it via synaptic.
[23:18] <reya276> ﻿sp3000: oh I see, let try using terminal
[23:18] <sergiuu> i don't know the name of program..
[23:18] <guest> blah569, from what i recall, you simply install them and click them once in the emerald-theme-manager
[23:18] <Sylphid|work> danny6167, im connected through a bridged dsl modem and i get a private ip via dhcp from the isp if i dont assing the public manually
[23:18] <jrib> sergiuu: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[23:18] <fifthrune> ﻿can someone help me with 915resolution problem? I upgraded to Hardy but for some reason it is still controlling my graphics because when I uninstall it I can't get 1440X900 resolution anymore.  I suspect it may have to do with a hibernate issue I also have so please if anyone can help I would really appreciate it.
[23:19] <reya276> sp3000: take a look
[23:19] <reya276> Please contact your system administrator.
[23:19] <reya276> Add correct host key in /home/reya276/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message.
[23:19] <reya276> Offending key in /home/reya276/.ssh/known_hosts:2
[23:19] <reya276> RSA host key for 70.158.34.76 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[23:19] <FloodBot2> reya276: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:19] <reya276> oops sorry
[23:19] <danny6167> Sylphid|work: lol, our DSL here is australia works a bit diffrently ;)
[23:19] <carlos_> hello
[23:19] <xubean> hey there guys, i need some big help from someone.... it's weird ... my sound... it plays computer music but not internet stuff... I know have an external sound card, but I just can't figure it out...any can help me?
[23:19] <draeath> Is there a way to copy the INPUT from one pulseaudio source, to the OUTPUT of another? IE, i want to hear the microphone input from one card from the speaker out of the other card, but still be able to record from the source.
[23:19] <jrib> reya276: delete line 2 in known_hosts... (assuming you aren't paranoid)
[23:19] <sergiuu> jrib,  only 640 x 480 , 320 x 240 and refrash rate - 50 hz is available
[23:20] <carlos_> i think you need flash xubean
[23:20] <jrib> !fixres > sergiuu (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:20] <reya276> ﻿jrib: how do I access that
[23:20] <hydrogen> jrib: well, thats putting a bad spin on it
[23:20] <jrib> reya276: with any text editor
[23:20] <xubean> carlos, flash?? why? i have flash.. i can see videos... i just can't play the sound...
[23:20] <hydrogen> find out why the key changed
[23:20] <sergiuu> i am not going to read this.
[23:20] <sp3000> reya276: so if you have reason to believe some mean person isn't proxying your connection and stealing your passwords and things and the host identification change is benign and such, you can ssh-keygen -R  70.158.34.76 to remove the old identification
[23:20] <reya276> ﻿jrib: yes but how do I get to the file
[23:20] <sergiuu> i want the graphical tool for configuring X.Org
[23:20] <jrib> reya276: ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[23:20] <Sylphid|work> danny6167, yea .... unfortuantly the isp skimped and didnt get enough publics to use them in their dhcp pool
[23:20] <Gun_Smoke> svl: I don't know.. I don't use them.
[23:21] <sergiuu> becouse my screen sucks, is very hard to read something
[23:21] <carlos_> theres a workaround for that, sometimes u can see the video but dont hear anything
[23:21] <sergiuu> :<
[23:21] <xubean> carlos, so what's the workaround?
[23:21] <tyranos_> GaintSura, did u try after reboot
[23:21] <MrPockets> when configuring Evolution to recieve my gmail account, what do i put on the Gmail settings as an Email address?
[23:21] <jrib> reya276: hydrogen is right that you should find out why the key changed.  But since you don't know about these things it probably means you didn't really check the original key either so it doesn't really matter
[23:21] <sp3000> reya276: which does the same thing as the manual edit jrib suggests, fwiw
[23:21] <Gnine> any torrent link for 8.04?
[23:21] <Simonft> !mirror
[23:22] <MrPockets> nvm..
[23:22] <Simonft> !torrents
[23:22] <sergiuu> ok, i am going to swtich back to ubuntu 7.10 and never get back to hardy.
[23:22] <gluer> sergiuu: why?
[23:22] <tyranos_> sergiuu , i did the same two weeks ago
[23:22] <tyranos_> and i was the right choice
[23:22] <sergiuu> gluer, becouse the hardy don't have the minimum tool to configure the hardware
[23:22] <wigglez> guy
[23:23] <wigglez> er
[23:23] <carlos_> go here
[23:23] <carlos_> http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2006/07/audio_problem_from_flash_video.html
[23:23] <wigglez> how do i get my monitor refresh rates to be 85Hz
[23:23] <sergiuu> wigglez, in hardy?
[23:23] <sp3000> hmm, I lied
[23:23] <gluer> sergiuu: install linux mint then looks great and uses gutsy!
[23:23] <wigglez> 8.0
[23:23]  * sp3000 really sleeps
[23:23] <goppp-> hi any got vmware server to work in hardy???
[23:23] <sergiuu> It's almost impossible, if you are not the linux guru
[23:23] <wigglez> latest ubuntu
[23:23] <sergiuu> :>
[23:23] <wigglez> it was working fine until i installed nvidia-glx
[23:23] <reya276> ﻿sp3000: thank you sir, that did the trick
[23:23] <goppp-> !vmware server
[23:23] <sp3000> np
[23:24] <jrib> sergiuu: erm, I just told you that Screen Resolution does exist
[23:24] <sh1t> anyone please type my nick
[23:24] <reya276> ﻿jrib: thanks, you can assume everyone knows linux config, bad habit
[23:24] <sh1t> only the nick
[23:24] <goppp-> !vmware
[23:24] <danny6167> sh1t
[23:24] <reya276> Later Yall, Ubuntu ROCKS!!
[23:24] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[23:24] <carlos_> how can i install nokia n95 on linux anyone knows?
[23:24] <sh1t> danny6167 thanks
[23:25] <sergiuu> jrib, ﻿with Screen Resolution it's impossible to configure the needed screen size and refrash rate.
[23:25] <carlos_> the com port , not the storage
[23:25] <filthpig> hi, I've noticed that nautilus keeps growing in mem usage the longer my computer is turned on. When the system starts it's about 50 mb, and now, after a few days it's almost 80.. is there some cache I can delete or smth? running gutsy...
[23:25] <jrib> sergiuu: that's a different issue that the wiki page provides suggestions for
[23:25] <kelvin911> hi is this hardy heron channel???
[23:25] <goppp-> yes
[23:25] <kelvin911> why the font is so ugly???
[23:25] <danny6167> kelvin911: this is #ubuntu
[23:25] <sergiuu> jrib,yep.. i will try to figure it out
[23:26] <Millertime_018> can anyone tell me what the command "apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[23:26] <Millertime_018> installs?
[23:26] <ThomPhoenix> I'm installing a printer driver (ppd file) and via the web interface localhost:631. I want to apply the file but I'm asked for a password and username. My own do not work, nor root. Does CUPS have a password, if so, what is it?
[23:26] <Millertime_018> please help
[23:26] <sergiuu> if there is not the old gui configurator of xor
[23:26] <sergiuu> :>
[23:26] <sergiuu> forget about
[23:26] <jrib> Millertime_018: it installs linux headers for your current kernel...
[23:26] <kelvin911> it was fine in gutsy but after i upgrade to hardy the bold sans font is damn ugly and thick
[23:26] <xubean> carlos, that didn't help..
[23:26] <Lukasz1> I need instruction on Ubuntu tls the computer that has vista
[23:26] <Millertime_018> jrib: what are linux headers?
[23:26] <jrib> Millertime_018: and build essential
[23:26] <Simonft> ﻿ Lukasz1: with what part?
[23:26] <demonspork> what is the keybind to view gDesklets?
[23:26] <xubean> anybody know how to solve sound problems in hardy
[23:27] <carlos_> vista is a pos
[23:27] <Millertime_018> jrib: what do they do? and what should i do if i ever want them off? will ever need them off?
[23:27] <Lukasz1> I am getting a new laptop in June and its asus it will have Vista
[23:27] <goppp-> hi any one got vmware in hardy
[23:27] <danny6167> Millertime_018: if you dont know what they are, you probbly dont need to install them
[23:27] <goppp-> vmware server
[23:27] <kelvin911> anyone have problem in hardy?
[23:27] <Lukasz1> The drives are different then xp
[23:27] <DShepherd> Millertime_018, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2467633
[23:27] <jrib> Millertime_018: source code that lets you compile things that require them.  The better question is why do you want to install these things if you do not know what they are?
[23:27] <ZX81> not really, but a clean install is best
[23:27] <Simonft> ﻿Lukasz1: use the cd, everything should be fine
[23:27] <Millertime_018> goppp: yea i wanted vmware too
[23:28] <Millertime_018> to get my camera to work
[23:28] <thor> Is there a gui GTK editor?
[23:28] <eth01> 'evenin
[23:28] <goppp-> Millertime_018:  how
[23:28] <Lukasz1> ok thnx ZX81
[23:28] <sh1t> danny6167 please type mi nick again
[23:28] <Millertime_018> jrib: to get my camora to work
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> thor: look up glade
[23:28] <_paneb> i am going through the ntfs-3g guide and there are 2 methods described. do both use ntfs-3g? if not, how does the automatic method work?
[23:28] <Millertime_018> jrib: it was part of the instructions on a website
[23:28] <Lukasz1> I will make sure I have free space thought :) So it be easier
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> !info glade | thor
[23:28] <Millertime_018> jrib: will i ever need them off?
[23:28] <jrib> Millertime_018: webcam or just a digital camera that you want to grab pictures from?
[23:28] <jrib> Millertime_018: no
[23:28] <IdleOne> sh1t: change your nick please. not family friendly
[23:28] <thor> Odd-rationale: hmm ok
[23:28] <sh1t> IdleOne sorry
[23:28] <kelvin911> hello? anyone have the font problem in hardy?
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> no bot?
[23:29] <alall> I f*ed up my development server (which is running ubuntu 7) by trying to give my master account root priviliges, I added the account to the root group and now the account seems to have lost all privileges and sudo doesnt do anything. Any tips on what to do? I cant edit the /etc/group by hand since I dont have premission
[23:29] <Lukasz1> by the way how do I fix Mbr on Vista?
[23:29] <eth01> IdleOne: meh.
[23:29] <ZX81> not really, it's a bit b asic though, you can download other fonts
[23:29] <jussio1> !test
[23:29] <Kopfgeldjaeger> n8
[23:29] <filthpig> kelvin911, please explain your problem in one line..
[23:29] <Millertime_018> jrib: webcam, so ive already installed it i wont need to take it off? good. i wont
[23:29] <Lukasz1> I am gonna install it on external hdd
[23:29] <jrib> !webcam > Millertime_018 (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:29] <xpoint> Lukasz1, asj nucrosoft
[23:29] <jumpkick> wtf hardy ships with nvidia_new driver that corrupts the top 1/6 of my screen when I move the mouse....
[23:29] <Millertime_018> goppp: i didnt say i knew how. if you find out how let me know
[23:29] <dmsuperman> Lukasz1, install Ubuntu
[23:29] <zaussome> kelvin911: what font problem?
[23:29] <kelvin911> the font in hardy is too thick
[23:30] <Lukasz1> xpoint Vista on internal and Ubuntu external
[23:30] <zaussome> I haven't noticed it.
[23:30] <eth01> kelvin911: then change it.
[23:30]  * hydrogen likes the hardy fonts much better than the gutsy ones
[23:30] <kelvin911> change it to what?
[23:30] <_paneb> anyone?
[23:30] <Lukasz1> I did it with xp
[23:30] <gaspipe1> anything new in ubuntu that may be worth looking into?
[23:30] <eth01> change it to something which suits your needs.
[23:30] <kelvin911> i am already using bold sans 10 is it right?
[23:30] <eth01> but imho hardy looks much better than gutsy
[23:30] <xpoint> Lukasz1, i wont do it, it will anoid the pigs olso
[23:30] <zaussome> kelvin911: maybe that's why it's too thick
[23:31] <sergiuu> sorry, can i install this http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ on ubuntu hardy?
[23:31] <kelvin911> i mean when it should be bold
[23:31] <ZX81> it's a tad blocky, but thats just my lappy small screen
[23:31] <Lukasz1> hmm
[23:31] <aboo0ood_> Hi guys, when i upgraded to hardy i got errors with Nautilus and the Panel related to registering with bonobo on one of the user accounts, while other accounts are doing fine. Any idea what this is about ?!
[23:31] <zaussome> kelvin911: oh
[23:31] <_aeGIs> The fonts are definitely different
[23:31] <kelvin911> but why it is too thick?
[23:31] <zaussome> kelvin911: no idea. :(
[23:31] <eth01> because you've been playing with the fonts.
[23:31] <eth01> probably.
[23:31] <kelvin911> can u show me ur screenshot on some website?
[23:31] <Lukasz1> Well I don't thnik install Ubuntu to much truble for me
[23:32] <Gun_Smoke> What would be the best way to see sound waves visually?  some type of scope>
[23:32] <Millertime_018> jrib: i did, and i've already seen that site
[23:32] <salah_> Hi. Any simple idea how to get ieee1394 work with tcp ip over linux?
[23:32] <jrib> Millertime_018: k
[23:32] <Lukasz1> thnx
[23:32] <Millertime_018> jrib: thing is, it works in my messenger, but not camorama and i want to be able to take pics and video
[23:32] <Millertime_018> what do i do?
[23:32] <a514> Hi How do i setup Xorg from recovery mode cli?
[23:32] <ZX81> kelvin911 try http://www.cnr.com/product/productOverview.seam?conversationId=5582&actionMethod=productGrid.xhtml%3AproductDetails.selectProduct&productId=10158
[23:32] <RyanPrior> No more #ubuntu-release-party? The party is over???
[23:33] <Gun_Smoke> Oscilloscope?  Anyone know of a simple one to work off a sound card?
[23:33] <kelvin911> can u compare my screenshot with urs ?? http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgx9.png
[23:33] <RyanPrior> Time to start uploading to Intrepid, I guess. =D
[23:33] <_paneb> i am going through the ntfs-3g guide and there are 2 methods described. do both use ntfs-3g? if not, how does the automatic method work?
[23:33] <Millertime_018> camorama says... "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0). please check connection" but its built in
[23:33] <Millertime_018> and already works in kopete
[23:33] <RyanPrior> _paneb: NTFS partitions are mounted by default now, and you can just use mount -t ntfs-3g I think.
[23:34] <tesseracter> firebug on FF3b5 totally sucks. im gunna need to dl FF2 again
[23:34] <tarkus> are design and graphical tools in linux actually progressing at all? people say that opensource moves faster than commercial software, but i've been using gimp/inkscape and i havent seen any real improvements.. its still far behind imo..
[23:34] <tarkus> (for 3 years)
[23:34] <_paneb> RyanPrior, does the "automatic" method work as well as the ntfs-3g?
[23:34] <_paneb> RyanPrior, for r/w
[23:34] <dthacker-work> tarkus: this is the help channel, I think you want the offtopic channel
[23:34] <RyanPrior> tarkus: Open source does move very quickly, but in many cases it's moving to catch up to very mature commercial products with tens of thousands of man hours behind them.
[23:34] <sparr__> where should user-local binaries and game data go?  for things not installed by root
[23:35] <filthpig> kelvin911, it looks perfectly normal to me..
[23:35] <monkeypaw201> hello there, anyone know of a program i can install to automatically start Firefox and browse to a certain website on login?
[23:35] <sergiuu>  with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i can't change the resolution too..
[23:35] <RyanPrior> _paneb: When I plug in my NTFS-formatted external hard drive, it mounts right up with no fuss.
[23:35] <astro76> !startup | monkeypaw201
[23:35] <_paneb> RyanPrior, ok
[23:35] <sergiuu> probaly i will need to edit xorg.conf by myself
[23:35] <sergiuu> :>
[23:36] <guest> !boot
[23:36] <sergiuu> never do this before
[23:36] <sergiuu> :D
[23:36] <wigglez> how do i fix my monitor refresh rates
[23:36] <monkeypaw201> ubotto, thanks
[23:36] <kelvin911> filthpig: normal?
[23:36] <RyanPrior> tarkus: Inkscape has had major improvements lately - it really gets better at a very rapid rate. The GIMP is slower, but it's going under some major revisions for the next release, and it should be a much better product soon.
[23:36] <paulcross> Several windows placed at a too high position when opened. I can't move them. How to fix it.
[23:36] <kelvin911> filthpig: u dont find it the bold font is too thick?
[23:36] <wigglez> hello....
[23:36] <wigglez> anyone?
[23:36] <monkeypaw201> yes?
[23:36] <aoito> server libres.irc-hispano.org
[23:37] <RyanPrior> paulcross: If you can see any part of the window, alt+click+drag the window down.
[23:37] <wigglez> how do i fix my monitor refresh rates.
[23:37] <eth01> !u | kelvin911
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> paulcross: hold alt, click on them, and drag
[23:37] <ZX81> kelvin911 try http://www.cnr.com/product/productOverview.seam?conversationId=5582&actionMethod=productGrid.xhtml%3AproductDetails.selectProduct&productId=10158
[23:37] <Daisuke_Ido> all you need to do :D
[23:37] <kelvin911> filthpig: the bold font is 7.10 is thinner
[23:37] <wigglez> its only at 55Hz, but i need 85Hz for my game to run smoothly
[23:37] <guest> paulcross, Alt+leftclick on a window lets you move it
[23:37] <hydrogen> !y
[23:37] <void^> wigglez: nvidia?
[23:37] <hydrogen> thats pretty silly
[23:37] <wigglez> void^,  yes
[23:37] <magnetron> Question: What is the library called that lets you put your text strings in separate, translated .po files?
[23:37] <wigglez> they were fine until i installed nvidia-glx
[23:37] <kelvin911> filthpig: can u show me your screenshot?
[23:37] <eth01> hydrogren: ironic :)
[23:37] <wigglez> i need 85Hz for my game to run right in vsync.
[23:38] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  I do know that. But I don't want do it every time.
[23:38] <_paneb> is there a way to tell ubuntu to regenerate /etc/fstab? it's using some pretty funky things in there
[23:38] <RyanPrior> paulcross: You mean it's happening every time you open a window?
[23:38] <void^> wigglez: nvidia's driver hides the real refresh rate from you.
[23:38] <monkeypaw201> ok, 1 more question.. i have MySQL installed and running but i can't seem to find something like phpMyAdmin package without installing it myself.. i installed MySQL Administrator but it doesn't let me add/edit/remove and mess with tables
[23:38] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  Yes
[23:38] <wigglez> yeah how do i fix it.
[23:38] <wigglez> ive never had this problem on any other distro
[23:38] <magnetron> _paneb: did you edit it manually?
[23:38] <manifest_> aromipesä
[23:38] <RyanPrior> paulcross: I've never seen that. Perhaps try screwing with your screen resolution.
[23:38] <CyberGabber> wigglez: (In Gnome ) , menu System > Administration > Screen & Graphics, choose the right graph.card and resol.
[23:38] <monkeypaw201>  i have MySQL installed and running but i can't seem to find something like phpMyAdmin package without installing it myself.. i installed MySQL Administrator but it doesn't let me add/edit/remove and mess with tables
[23:39] <monkeypaw201> i have MySQL installed and running but i can't seem to find something like phpMyAdmin package without installing it myself.. i installed MySQL Administrator but it doesn't let me add/edit/remove and mess with tables
[23:39] <wigglez> CyberGabber,  i dont see that menu.
[23:39] <_paneb> magnetron, no, although i am used to doing that. the thing is that i had a drive which i reformatted in windows (an ntfs drive) and during the ubuntu install i said it was a fat32 partition, so now it does not know about it
[23:39] <ZX81> i think ur rude
[23:39] <ZX81> kelvin911 I am taking you seriously
[23:39] <wigglez> im on 8.04...
[23:39] <CyberGabber> wigglez: Are you using Gnome ?
[23:39] <wigglez> yes
[23:39] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  I think some windows just remembered their positon. But I dont know how to clear it.
[23:39] <magnetron> Question: What is the library called that lets you put your text strings in separate, translated .po files?
[23:40] <crdlb> magnetron: gettext?
[23:40] <feistyman> Can someone help me with an install question?
[23:40] <RyanPrior> paulcross: Perhaps you can just get them to remember a new, better position?
[23:40] <RyanPrior> !anyone | feistyman
[23:40] <ror> this is becoming a joke! On a fresh boot I have to kill nautilus to get a background, and after a while I get this from syslog and my network dies
[23:40] <CyberGabber> wigglez: Maybe the menu-part isn't visable wright now for you in the current resol.
[23:40] <feistyman> RyanPrior, thanks
[23:40] <magnetron> crdlb: that's the one! thank you
[23:40] <ror> [ 2728.406799] ra0: No ProbeResp from current AP 00:11:09:5a:d0:18 - assume out of range
[23:40] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  I failed to do that.
[23:40] <wigglez> the menu is there.
[23:40] <ror> why does my ra0 suddently DIE?
[23:40] <wigglez> i just dont see the item you want me to click
[23:41] <ror> there's some new wmaster00 rubbish too
[23:41] <FedeXD> Where can I find libamr_nb?
[23:41] <CyberGabber> wigglez: Menu System ?
[23:41] <guest> CyberGabber, i have gutsy, working. and it seems the screens and graphics icon is no longer there
[23:41] <guest> CyberGabber, i meant hardy not gutsy
[23:41] <sergiuu> jrib,
[23:41] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  I think its actually a bug of compiz or metacity.
[23:41] <sergiuu> jrib, don't you want to help me..
[23:41] <simmerz> ﻿hi. my intel 3945 wireless doesn't work since upgrading to heron. I get lots of keycode errors in /var/log/messages instead. worked fine under gutsy!
[23:42] <feistyman> I installed Hardy Heron using the Wubi installer. But so far I haven't been able to access my windows files, like I did when I used the live disk. Is there a better way to install than wubi?
[23:42] <jrib> sergiuu: what's up?
[23:42] <filthpig> I've noticed that nautilus keeps growing in mem usage the longer my computer is turned on. When the system starts it's about 50 mb, and now, after a few days it's almost 80.. is there some cache I can delete or smth? running gutsy...
[23:42] <manifest_> feistyman: does it gshow an error or what?
[23:42] <RyanPrior> feistyman: Yes, that's a known bug with Wubi - your Windows files won't be accessible unless you migrate to a "real" install.
[23:42] <|moe|> what's the problem with your windows-files, feistyman?
[23:43] <FedeXD> where can I find libamr_nb? :(
[23:43] <ariqs> how do i access a NTFS partition in a terminal?
[23:43] <forevertheuni> warning: process `nvidia-installe' used the deprecated sysctl system call with 1.23.  <- i'm having this trouble when system tries to load nvidia driver..with insmod is fine with modprobe it's not
[23:43] <|moe|> ther is a /host-directory, where your files are listed
[23:43] <forevertheuni> any hints for me?
[23:43] <RyanPrior> |moe| and manifest_, Wubi uses a loop-mounted file on the Windows FS, so it can't see the rest of the Windows FS under the current setup.
[23:43] <feistyman> RyanPrior, can I install it from the live disk, without ruining my Windows?
[23:43] <CyberGabber> wigglez / guest , try in terminal:   sudo gksu displayconfig-gtk
[23:43] <manifest_> lol k
[23:44] <manifest_> i got a normally set up dualboot ubuntu and vista
[23:44] <RyanPrior> feistyman: Yes, if you resize your Windows partition and create a new one for Ubuntu.
[23:44] <wigglez> ok soo
[23:44] <wigglez> what driver??
[23:44] <manifest_> got the windows files up checking HDD in windows and rebooting after
[23:44] <wigglez> im currently using nvidia
[23:44] <RyanPrior> feistyman: Right now you've got a virtual install within Windows, but in order to access your Windows files you'll need to dual-boot. There are lots of tutorials available.
[23:44] <belor1> I just unmounted a Volume i didnt want to how can i get it back
[23:44] <Mattevt> Websites with embedded WMV videos won't play in firefox. There's got to be a plug-in for this, I just don't know where to find it.
[23:44] <simmerz> anyone know why my wireless doesn't work at all any more?
[23:44] <CyberGabber> wigglez: I don't know, You should know that...
[23:45] <moneymike> how do u remove a overlaid mp3 layer from an avi
[23:45] <wigglez> i usually use nvidia on slackware.
[23:45] <|moe|> my only problem is that i cannot see files with üöä in it
[23:45] <wigglez> wow this is retarded
[23:45] <feistyman> So if I set the Ubuntu parition to say, 8 igigs, will it leave Windows alone?
[23:45] <wigglez> :/
[23:45] <Tux2K8> is slackware FHS is the same as ubuntu?
[23:45] <wigglez> how the hell can it not detect my refresh rates
[23:45] <wigglez> i usually just run xorgconfig and install nvidia driver on slackware
[23:46] <stinger05> hello there, is there any alternative for ubuntu that one can have for having windows live messenger "voice convos" ?
[23:46] <wigglez> but ubuntu doesnt have xorgconfig
[23:46] <dupin> feistyman .if you mean conflict with it then no
[23:46] <wigglez> piece of shit :/
[23:46] <tarkus> RyanPrior: thats good to hear, actually.
[23:46] <fuzzy_logic> hello.. i just installed ubuntu, but my conceptronic wireless card doesnt work.. can anyone help me? i dont have x.org installed so everything has to be with the command line
[23:46] <dimitree> lucky try : How can i make TVkoo to work in Ubuntu ?
[23:46] <belor1> I just ummnounted my Windows Partition how do i mount it again
[23:46] <_boto> i have problems getting my microphone input device running with alsa on ubuntu 7.1
[23:47] <buffdaemon> i installed xserver-xorg and xdm in ubuntu server 8.04 but when i tried to run starx command then it shows "Fatal Server error: No Valid FontPath could be found"
[23:47] <_boto> i have read a lot about this problem on internet
[23:47] <prettyricky> any pointers on how to start frostwire, it says I need Java 1.4?
[23:47] <ariqs> when I open a terminal I'm stuck in my login name-desktop. How do I get to my root file system? I'm sure it's sudo something or other
[23:47] <Bmw1000c> hi guys, where can i report bugs?
[23:47] <RyanPrior> tarkus: Of course. As a web designer, I love to see improvements to open source creative tools.
[23:47] <_boto> but all attempts failed
[23:47] <tarkus> RyanPrior: since i do web development, using python and ajax, with django. linux is perfect for that. but i also do designs. very minimal and clean stuff, so i dont care about having features and filter effects, etc.. but i want to be able to produce good quality results.
[23:47] <_boto> now my output device is broken too :-(
[23:47] <ebroder> I get the following output when I try to do the upgrade to Hardy: http://pastebin.com/m2fd3b806 . I think that something's being cached or something - what can I do?
[23:47] <prettyricky> Where and how can I install Java 1.4? It mentions I am using Java 1.6
[23:48] <wigglez> right time to install slackware or something cya
[23:48] <feistyman> Ryanprior, where can I get a tutorial to install Ubuntu from the disk. I want to run a dual boot, but have it not harm anything in Windows that is already installed.
[23:48] <belor1> !mount
[23:48] <wigglez> ubuntu ftl :)
[23:48] <dupin> prettyricky : install sun-java6-bin from synaptic that should do it
[23:48] <prettyricky> ty
[23:48] <Mattevt> Hi guys. I have what should be an easy question for any experienced Ubuntu user (unfortunately I'm not one of them): Websites with embedded WMV videos won't play in firefox. There's got to be a plug-in for this, I just don't know where to find it. (using Hardy)
[23:48] <RyanPrior> tarkus: Photoshop CS2 works on Wine if you have a license for it. Inkscape is awesome IMO, it has fewer features than Illustrator but it's got a lot of the bases covered.
[23:48] <ariqs> when I open a terminal I'm stuck in my login name-desktop. How do I get to my root file system? I'm sure it's sudo something or other
[23:48] <_boto> the problem with "... cannot get pipe ..." comes to my face everytime i try to test the alsa mixer in audio settings
[23:48] <tarkus> tarkus: i've been doing just fine with inkscape and blender. but i cant help but wonder if i would have more potential with apple/adobe software.
[23:49] <tarkus> RyanPrior: i dont mind few features, caus i only really use the standard toolset.
[23:49] <dupin>    feistyman :         http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/installing
[23:49] <jrib> tarkus: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:49] <_boto> but i can record, somehow the input works, though
[23:49] <ariqs> .. tarkus just replied to tarkus ;p
[23:49] <stinger05> which program has windows live messenger voice plugin for ubuntu ?
[23:49] <tarkus> jrib: meh.. where else would a question like this be appropriate?
[23:49] <jrib> Mattevt: I like mplayer plugin with w32codecs
[23:49] <jrib> tarkus: if it's not an ubuntu support question then you should discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <RyanPrior> tarkus: Apple and Adobe software are quality, but they're missing a crucial feature: freedom. You're locked into their product, and you can't just go in and add a feature or fix a bug. Many will make that tradeoff, but I'm glad to be able to use programs like Inkscape without having to give up my freedom or a whole lot of quality.
[23:50] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  I got it fixed
[23:50] <a514> ubotu displayconfiggtk
[23:50] <feistyman> dupin, thanks, I'm viewing it now.
[23:50] <Girltalk> Mattevt: install VLC and your computer will be able to play anything
[23:50] <RyanPrior> paulcross: Excellent.
[23:50] <pinklerose> hello
[23:50] <dupin> tarkus : adobe photo shop run in wine
[23:50] <paulcross> RyanPrior,  Back to human theme. Then its normal
[23:50] <guest> stinger05, have you tried amsn?
[23:50] <_boto> i have tried to build the alsa utils from source
[23:50] <Mattevt> girltalk: I have VLC installed...and I can play any video outside of firefox...but these are embedded in the pages
[23:50] <Bmw1000c> HEY GUYS, where can i report a bug?
[23:50] <_boto> but make breaks with errors complaining about missing 'patch' file
[23:50] <tarkus> dupin: yes.. i dont do that.. if im going to use prop software, ill just buy a mac.
[23:50] <sergiuu> does anyone use ubuntu 7.10?
[23:50] <RyanPrior> paulcross: Strange that a  theme change would break things, I think. But I always use human themes. (Human-Murrine is my favorite lately).
[23:50] <jrib> sergiuu: ah, were you looking for Adiministration -> Screens and Graphics before?
[23:51] <Mattevt> jrib how does mplayer attach itself to firefox?
[23:51] <sergiuu> jrib, yes
[23:51] <jrib> !bugs | Bmw1000c
[23:51] <_boto> sergiuu: yes i do
[23:51] <jrib> sergiuu: it's there in 8.04
[23:51] <AnthroTechie> Bmw1000- go to launchpad
[23:51] <Mattevt> i'm new to ubuntu as of two days ago...so I'm just slowly working my way through
[23:51] <sergiuu> jrib, but i cant look for it:(
[23:51] <stinger05> guest: does that have voice enabled to talk to windows users ?
[23:51] <sergiuu> can you please give me the command so i can run it from terminal
[23:51] <dupin> tarkus : yes that is option too
[23:51] <jrib> Mattevt: there's a plugin in the mozilla-mplayer package
[23:51] <prettyricky> dupin---- it shows that its already installed
[23:51] <RyanPrior> Mattevt: Why do you need mplayer rather than gstreamer?
[23:51] <Bmw1000c> thanks ubottu and AnthroTechie
[23:51] <prettyricky> any other suggestions???
[23:52] <tarkus> RyanPrior: do you think it will always be like that? prop software greater quality?
[23:52] <Mattevt> ryanprior...it's just what jrib suggested...I'm open to anything
[23:52] <guest> stinger05, from wikipedia "Sending and receiving of voice clips (full voice conversation supposedly coming in aMSN 2 or after the program has been upgraded to use a newer protocol)"
[23:52] <jrib> sergiuu: displayconfig-gtk
[23:52] <xxxxxxx> How do you autologin at terminal I have no gui
[23:52] <sergiuu> jrib, its seems that it's missing..
[23:52] <TBotNik> All, Had Gutsy in stand-alone/offline for awhile, then hookup back to inet and the upgrade dissed me, can't network, see inet or nothing, using UGH win box here HELP!!!
[23:52] <sergiuu> oeeeeee
[23:52] <sergiuu> jrib, thanks a lot
[23:52] <sergiuu> :>
[23:52] <tarkus> RyanPrior: cause i mean, look at apache, and all the open web frameworks out there. far superior to the commercial ones.
[23:52] <RyanPrior> tarkus: No way. Look at Transana for example: it is *the* premier qualitative video analysis software suite, blows all commercial outfits out of the water. And it's GPL.
[23:52] <arooni-mobile> is there a remote desktop type thing built into ubuntu gutsy?  if so whats it called & how do i get to it?
[23:53] <handtokeyboard> NOT SOUND ON MY UBUNTU
[23:53] <handtokeyboard> :(
[23:53] <jrib> tarkus: move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, I don't see how it's related to support
[23:53] <ebroder> What can I do about this traceback when I try to upgrade: http://pastebin.com/m2fd3b806 ?
[23:53] <RyanPrior> handtokeyboard: Easy on the caps lock there, guy.
[23:53] <TBotNik> arooni-mobile: SSH
[23:53] <guest> arooni-mobile, remote desktop: sending or receiving?
[23:53] <suriro> Mattevt: install mozilla-plugin-vlc
[23:53] <jrib> !w32codecs > Mattevt (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:53] <arooni-mobile> guerby, TBotNik i want to visually control things like xmms (browing to a shoutcast station and pushing play)
[23:54] <doc|work> hello, I've just upgraded to hardy heron and it installed firefox 3 beta which doesn't have support for firebug, a javascript debugger. Firefox 2 is still installed and works but isn't allowing plygins which had been working to work. Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:54] <arooni-mobile> guest, TBotNik from my gutsy laptop
[23:54] <sergiuu> jrib, this tool is missing in hardy, i mean in system / administration , don't know why..
[23:54] <sergiuu> but the command work.
[23:54] <RyanPrior> tarkus: The thing about Transana is that qualitative video analysis is a fairly new field, so corporations didn't have such a head start. In other fields, like word processing, it's much harder to compete with the entrenched players.
[23:54] <arooni-mobile> guerby, TBotNik both my laptop (connecting from) and my desktop (connecting to) are on same network
[23:54] <TBotNik> arooni-mobile: My bad, use www.logmein.com
[23:54] <jrib> sergiuu: it's called "screens and Graphics" here
[23:54] <_DarkSide_> hola?
[23:55] <arooni-mobile> TBotNik, isnt there a remote desktop program built into gutsy?  i thought i used it before
[23:55] <sergiuu> ﻿jrib, can't look for it.
[23:55] <Mattevt> RyanPrior, it doesn't appear that gstreamer is available for ubuntu. at least, where I'm looking
[23:55] <guest> arooni-mobile, try installing xvnc4viewer
[23:55] <sergiuu> it's not there
[23:55] <sergiuu> ;>
[23:55] <Mattevt> oh sorry I didn't see those responses
[23:55] <Mattevt> thanks
[23:55] <sergiuu> jrib, i can do an screenshots
[23:55] <KrimZon> something weird happened
[23:55] <sergiuu> ^)
[23:56] <prettyricky> any better than frostwire?
[23:56] <sergiuu> maybe i am blind
[23:56] <belor1> Hi, I unmounted my Windows Partition some how, when i reboot will it still be there and able to be booted from
[23:56] <arooni-mobile> guest, already installed.... which application menu does it appear on?  i dont see it
[23:56] <jrib> belor1: yes
[23:56] <KrimZon> visiting the article linked from this slashdot page in firefox3 caused x to restart: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/30/1822237
[23:56] <cj_> hey
[23:56] <TBotNik> arooni-mobile: donnow man!  See I'm down dew to the upgrade, need help figgin out what screwed it.  Guessing it a "can-o-worms"
[23:56] <belor1> jrib, ok thanks
[23:56] <cj_> yuddtAdhbdrfe8i
[23:56] <RyanPrior> Mattevt: gstreamer is installed in Ubuntu by default. :-)
[23:56] <cj_> rysfj8gkl
[23:56] <cj_> tu;
[23:56] <filthpig> belor1, unless you changes some settings, yes
[23:56] <cj_> st
[23:56] <cj_> cgkk
[23:56] <FloodBot2> cj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <guest> if you press Alt+F4 you can type in vnc4viewr to launch it
[23:56] <cj_> cffgoi
[23:56] <arooni-mobile> TBotNik, ok my bad; ;p
[23:56] <Sashi> rawr
[23:56] <xelapond> Hi
[23:57] <xelapond> I am having problems installing Hardy on my Macbook Pro
[23:57] <guest> arooni-mobile, if you press Alt+F4 you can type in vnc4viewr to launch it
[23:57] <prettyricky> is there anything else better than frostwire?
[23:57] <TBotNik> arooni-mobile: Worst part is hav'n to use Win box to find the problem!
[23:57] <Bizzeh> hey, i just installed ubuntu, and im getting grub error 17 on boot now... anyone any idea whats happened?
[23:57] <jrib> prettyricky: "better" is subjective
[23:57] <AnthroTechie> I've been having a problem since upgrading to Hardy. Can't enable desktop effects in the "Visual Effects" tab in System-Preferences.  When I try to a pop window says "Desktop Effects could not be enabled." I already installed Advanced Desktop Effects Settings.
[23:57] <doc|work> anyone?
[23:57] <crdlb> AnthroTechie: what video card?
[23:57] <jrib> !p2p > prettyricky (read the private message from ubotu)
[23:57] <TBotNik> All, are there any note on why this upgrade is making things go south?
[23:57] <RyanPrior> jrib: Frostwire is pretty much the state of the art when it comes to Gnutella clients.
[23:57] <Sashi> stojic: RAWR
[23:58] <prettyricky> sorry--- another application similar to frostwire?
[23:58] <arooni-mobile> guest, i dont follow......  i'm running gutsy on my laptop & desktop and want to connect from laptop => desktop.... i'm asking where do i find the vnc4viewer (so i dont need to launch from command line)....... also should i use terminal server client?
[23:58] <evaryont> Sashi!
[23:58] <Sashi> evaryont!
[23:58] <AnthroTechie> crdlb- I'm unsure what type of video card I have
[23:58] <jrib> prettyricky: ubottu sent you a list in a private message
[23:58] <grte> phrik!
[23:58] <apallo> i realize this is an ubernoob question, but how do i make my ubuntu install look like os x?
[23:58] <Sashi> grte!
[23:58] <vox> hi, why isnt XMMS in the repos any more?
[23:58] <Sashi> apallo: RTFM
[23:58] <grte> apallo: Best bet is googling some guids.
[23:58] <prettyricky> cool ty
[23:58] <crdlb> AnthroTechie: open a terminal and run: lspci | grep -i vga
[23:58] <grte> s/guids/guides
[23:59] <Dream_Team> apallo: If you are on kde, try baghira
[23:59] <AnthroTechie> crdlb- okay
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> should i use terminal server clinet?
[23:59] <Sashi> Dream_Team!
[23:59] <stojic> I like Hardly but I have no sound in my speakers
[23:59] <apallo> thanks
[23:59] <sandsmark> Dream_Team!
[23:59] <guest> arooni-mobile, when you install xvnc4viewer it doesnt put it in your applications menu but you can add it yourself by going to System -> Preferences -> System Menu
[23:59] <grte> stojic: is your speakers plugged in?
[23:59] <evaryont> OMG! sandsmark and Dream_Team are here?!? HEART ATTACK!