[00:00] seancron: no, i can go lower to 640, but not higher [00:00] blackperl: it seems like you have synaptic set to auto start [00:01] how do i setup a network bridge? [00:01] gnuskool: odd...and just to be sure, thats through the xfce settings manager? [00:14] ughhhhhh [00:14] my 8.04 upgrade just barfed [00:14] how so? [00:14] subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [00:14] Could not install 'xserver-xorg' [00:15] that popped up in a dialog [00:15] meanwhile there's a whole slew of nasty error messages in the terminal [00:16] i knew i should have waited [00:18] how did you try to upgrade? [00:18] using the update manager from 7.10 [00:21] where do i go to file bug reports? [00:22] !bugs [00:22] ubotu? are you gone? [00:22] maybe ubotu tried to upgrade as well [00:22] =P [00:22] what the hell do I do now? [00:22] hahaha seems like this might help: [00:22] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4706661 [00:23] oh great [00:23] my menu font is borked [00:23] you close everything you can go to a console and do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' again... [00:23] ...and maybe pray :P [00:24] 3 hard resets only today... not much muck with hardy so far [00:24] muck = luck* [00:24] * emdash is seriously frustrated with ubuntu [00:24] suspend support has been broken since 7.04 [00:24] and now this [00:25] so did you have any unofficial repositories enabled or anything? [00:25] they were disabled by the update manager (or so it said) [00:25] i think i had medibuntu and that's about it [00:25] or use something like envy/ automatix at some point in time [00:25] what is envy? [00:25] this started out as a fresh install of 7.04 [00:25] then i uptated to 7.10 [00:26] something that configures displays... Many people argue that it does ugly/evil things [00:26] any IceWM user here? [00:26] afaik it's completely stock [00:26] but i use universe/multiverse [00:26] and some restricted drivers [00:27] it seriously looks like there's some errors in the xserver-xorg install scripts [00:27] i'm also afraid to kill *everything* because I might not be able to get back to X11 [00:27] maybe somebody on the #ubuntu channel might be able to help more seeing as there are more people? [00:27] thank god i actually backed up /home before trying this [00:28] wish i could help more but i'm still with Dapper [00:28] do you not have a spare computer, or anything to get on the internet with? [00:28] note to self: don't be ubuntu's guinnea pig...wait a month before updatating to a new release [00:29] or perhaps a livecd or something? [00:30] puppylinux makes a great "oh sh*t..." rescue OS [00:38] hello? [00:38] hello [00:38] I was trying to find the place where i could get help setting up xubunutu [00:39] you can try to get help here.. there are no guarentees [00:39] we try our best [00:39] yeah, i know....at least i'm in the right place [00:39] i've never used irc before [00:40] well...should i just dive right in and talk about my problem? === danielm_ is now known as danielm [00:40] go ahead [00:41] the first hint I have for you about irc is that you don't have to ask to ask... Asking to ask a question will just annoy people. :p [00:41] alright....I've been going through sevreal distros and heard that xubunutu was rather low on system requirements...so i've installed it and so far everything is great...but... [00:41] i have a linksys WUSB 11 version 2.5 usb wireless card [00:42] i have tryed to run the bash commands that i know about to set the wlan0 connection up...but so far it hasn't worked [00:43] fldav76, in CLI type lsusb [00:43] what chipset does it say? [00:43] it seems that xubuntu recognises that a wireless device is present...but i can't see any networks...and i can't connect using the wireless____[i'll do that now...brb] [00:44] have you tried going through it with the GUI...sometimes that's easier [00:44] d@lincom:~$ lsusb [00:44] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [00:44] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 066b:2212 Linksys, Inc. WUSB11v2.5 802.11b Adapter [00:44] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [00:44] hrm [00:45] [seancron: i'd love to use the gui...i just haven't been able to get it to work] [00:45] have you turned on restricted drivers? [00:45] hmm.,..not on purpose...how would i check that [00:45] grrr, anyone know how to set a static IP address? [00:46] KillerOrca, on wifi or lan? [00:46] vidd: lan [00:46] 7.10 or 8.04? [00:47] 8.04 [00:47] fldav76, Applications>System>HardwareDrivers [00:48] KillerOrca, do you have the network plugin omn your toolbars? [00:48] no proprietary drivers are in use on this system [00:48] (icon that looks like two comp screens) [00:48] vidd: i'm trying to do it command line [00:49] KillerOrca, oh...ok.... [00:49] one sec.... [00:49] vidd: the grapical portion takes up a lot of resources [00:50] !paste [00:50] !paste [00:51] the pastebin link wont work [00:52] ubuto is dead... [00:53] I am reading the #ubuntu-ops logs... appearently the computer he was hosted on stoppped hosting him [00:53] KillerOrca, http://pastebin.com/d782eabe3 [00:54] make your /etc/networking/interfaces look similar [00:55] sorry guys...i have to jet [00:55] anybody else able to lend a hand with the wireless problem? [00:55] ill try my best [00:56] thanks [00:56] what can i do to make it easier? [00:56] about all I can do is suggest that you look at - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - if you haven't already [00:57] try going to applications>system>networking [00:58] do you see a wireless connection item? [00:59] {zoredache: I have looked through the most common how-to guides....but i', li,ited because I'm not sure what is normal behaviour and what is not...in windows i could tell weather i was attacking a problem in the right way...in linux, i'm just a babe in arms] [00:59] [seancron: yes...wlan0 [01:00] click on that and then click on properties [01:00] oddly enough it calles it a wired connection [01:00] ok [01:00] try to configure your network [01:00] it's on automatic dhcp right now [01:00] that should probably be good [01:01] roaming unchecked [01:01] your network name in there? [01:01] and any key you might have? [01:01] in wlan0 properties? no [01:02] well then type them in [01:02] in fact...i have never been able to figure out just where one would look for avalible wireless networks [01:03] the wlan0 properties dialog box only shows boxes for [01:03] configuration [01:03] ip address [01:03] subnet mask [01:03] gateway address [01:03] are you setting it up for a home network or trying to find available networks? [01:04] sorry im still running off of dapper so my screen might not match up [01:05] well, eventually i want to set up a home network to share my dsl internet to my laptops....but as a first step i was just trying to get to the point whre i could see my neighbors wireless network...at least that would prove the card is proking [01:09] KillerOrca, did it work for ya? [01:10] i'd be happy to send a screenshot...but i'm not sure how [01:10] fldav76, did you get your wifi to work? [01:11] not yet///seancron is lending a bit of a hand [01:12] im still on dapper so there are some differences...help would be appreciated [01:12] mine just worked [01:12] =\ [01:12] lol...i wish [01:13] vidd: do you know how to scan for available networks? [01:13] iwlist scan [01:13] btw...i'm running xubuntu 8.04 desktop [01:13] will do [01:13] d@lincom:~$ iwlist wlan0 scan [01:13] wlan0 No scan results [01:14] might not mean anything if the card isnt set up? [01:14] d@lincom:~$ iwlist scan [01:14] lo Interface doesn't support scanning. [01:14] eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. [01:14] wlan0 No scan results [01:14] d@lincom:~$ [01:14] ping [gateway IP] [01:15] i don't know my gateway ip.../i may not have one...right now i'm connected to a dsl line [01:15] do you have a wireless router? [01:16] fldav76 said: well, eventually i want to set up a home network to share my dsl internet to my laptops....but as a first step i was just trying to get to the point whre i could see my neighbors wireless network...at least that would prove the card is proking [01:16] no....in the end i'd like to use this computer to share my dsl line over the wireless card [01:17] you would be better off getting a wireless router [01:17] can you "se" the neighbor's wifi on a different system? [01:18] i know...but 1. i haven't got the m,oney and 2. i'll only use it occasionally [01:18] yes..i can see it on a wondows xp laptop [01:18] what is it's ip? [01:19] are you actually able to connect from your laptop? [01:20] well, i can copnnect to any wireless network using the laptop (at the library etc) but i don't have the wep key so i can't actually connect to the neighbors [01:20] if you cant connect on windows, you cant connect on linux [01:20] keeping that in mind I kinda think trying to see something you can't use is pointless [01:21] i feel like we're misunderstanding what you are trying to do [01:21] xubuntu is aimed more at desktop usage... If you are trying to turn your computer into an AP you might want to ask in #ubuntu-server... [01:22] Hey! [01:22] i'm new to xubuntu! [01:22] you are right...but i can't tell if my wireless card is set up properly at this point..i was just trying to prove that it was set up properly [01:22] I also think that you are going to have a lot of pain trying to get a USB device work as an AP [01:22] nice to meet you Kaemon12433, congratulations! [01:22] had trouble with all the other ones [01:22] i've heard that before...and so far they were all correct [01:22] took awhile to get xubuntu to run fast online [01:22] seemed like the firefox 3 beta is'nt all that good [01:23] went to firefox 2 [01:23] but i don't just want a server setup...i'd like to use this computer as a normal desktop as well [01:24] hey i dont know how to set up my digital cam in xubuntu [01:25] i think what you need to find out is how to connect to public access points so you can see if you card works at a place like the library [01:25] Kaemon12433: what type of camera is it? [01:25] kodak [01:25] Kaemon12433: the really easy way is to buy a supported USB memory reader for the media type your camera uses [01:25] oh... [01:25] yea it's a kodak easysharec653 [01:25] true...that's what iwas trying to do ...test whether i can "see" the access point around here [01:25] and maybe if you are lucky the usb cable that came with it will work [01:26] maybe i jus need to go to kodak.com and get the software like that? [01:27] wait no [01:27] darn [01:27] kodak does'nt support linux [01:27] hmm [01:27] ubuntu detected it right when i plugged it up tho [01:27] and it transferred the images [01:28] hopefully xubuntu does the same? [01:28] Kaemon12433: try it and tell us if you have any problems [01:28] k [01:28] thank you [01:31] any thoughts anybody? [01:32] can you access any wifi on your windowsbox(es)? [01:32] where you are now [01:32] i can setup a testing network and connect to that i guess [01:33] good idea [01:34] i guess i have one last question...how does one normally connect to a wireless network (in , say, a hotel) using xubuntu [01:36] right click on the network applet and choose connect [01:37] that's what i tought...ah welll [01:37] thank anyways fellas [01:37] have a good one === _RandyboY is now known as RandyboY [02:17] where's thunar bin file? [02:17] type 'whereis thunar' [02:17] thanks!!! [02:17] no problem [02:27] HOLA [02:28] command for reinstall icons [02:37] hmm [02:37] well it rebooted okay [02:52] what should I do if create launcher is broken in xubuntu? [02:52] oasisfai: what do you mean is broken? [02:55] oasisfai: how is it broken? [02:55] when I right click on xfce desktop and select create laucher, then I type something in textfield. after that, the frame dispear. [02:58] hmm...so you type in the command for the launcher and it never shows up on your desktop? [02:59] yes. [03:00] try typing this in a terminal: 'killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop &' [03:00] tell me if they show up or not [03:02] the terminal show up no process call xfdesktop [03:02] ok [03:04] well if you go into your Desktop folder and add a launcher through thunar i believe it should show up [03:04] the entire message was: no process killed. [1] 6353 [03:05] yeah i guess you have a different setup than i do [03:05] i was trying to kill the desktop process and restarted it again [03:06] try restarting X11 by doing ctrl+alt+backspace note: you'll have to login again [03:06] other than that im stumped [03:06] ok. [03:08] still have problem. [03:10] sorry i honestly can't think of why it might be happening [03:11] id say your best bet is to either google it or get an answer from somebody else [03:11] I just found some critical message in terminal [03:11] what does it say? [03:12] when the create laucher was failed, at the same time, the terminal show up: (exo-desktop-item-edit:6734): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_utf8_casefold: assertion `str != NULL' failed [03:13] hmmm well i have to leave so see what almighty google has to say to that [03:13] good luck [03:48] <`MrMoo-> hi i need help installing a wireless network card driver [03:49] haven't really done it before but ill give it a shot [03:50] what driver? [03:50] <`MrMoo-> hi umm [03:50] <`MrMoo-> ibm high rate wireless lan [03:50] is that the name of the driver? [03:51] <`MrMoo-> thats the name of the network card [03:51] <`MrMoo-> im trying to get the wireless lan working on an ancient ibm thinkpad (a22m) [03:51] and you have no luck with the built in support? [03:51] <`MrMoo-> yep no luck with that [03:52] <`MrMoo-> the system doesnt recognize the device when i type "iwconfig" [03:52] <`MrMoo-> wlan0 doesnt show up [03:53] <`MrMoo-> i also tried using the windows wireless drivers app to isntall the driver [03:53] <`MrMoo-> it just says that it's an invalid driver [03:53] <`MrMoo-> (btw i got the driver from the ibm website) [03:54] ok you might want to try the #ubuntu channel, they have a lot of experience with wireless drivers so i think someone there can help you sorry [03:54] <`MrMoo-> no prob, thanks anyway [04:40] is there a kill signal i can use to quit system tools like 'add/remove', synaptic, etc?? some of these seem to freeze up on this old laptop, and i'm going to be giving it away in central america on friday. the users will only have dial up, so anything that can help them speed things up would be good. also, can someone recommend a secondary (text based?) browser to install as an alternative to f [04:40] irefox? [04:41] merbuntu: if i remember correctly, ctrl+alt+escape will open up "Xkill" and your cursor will turn into a skull and cross bones and then you just click on what app you want killed [04:43] maxamillion: you mean just click in the apps window anywhere? [04:43] merbuntu: yup [04:43] i'll try it in a few mins, what about a text based browser good for dialup connection? [04:43] but be carefull ... if you click the wrong application, then *poof* its gone ... this tool doesn't ask "are you sure?" [04:44] firefox should make a dialup version [04:44] merbuntu: i use w3m, but links2 is generally more popular if you don't like having to remember key combinations [04:44] merbuntu: i;m sorry, not links2 ... elinks [04:45] counsel taken re: *poof* ... is elinks in synaptic? [04:45] links2 is good too, but i think elinks is more under development [04:45] merbuntu: yes, elinks should be in synaptics [04:45] ok, i go check ... thanks [04:46] np [04:46] merbuntu: you might need to make sure you enable all the repositories [04:47] k, is there a terminal command for that? or do it in the synaptic windows? [04:49] wow. synaptic acts sooooOOOOOoooo sluggish on this machine. [04:49] merbuntu: yes, there is a command line tool ... i've actually never used synaptic, i prefer the command line [04:49] merbuntu: do 'apt-cache search -n elinks' [04:49] merbuntu: and if that returns something then do 'sudo apt-get install elinks' [04:52] ctrl/alt/esc dint work on synaptic, its still rattling around .... arrrrggghhh, i'll need to close it to use the command line, right? [04:53] merbuntu: probably a decent idea .. i can't remember if it will interfere [04:53] hmmmm.... i see elinks, and elinks lite in synaptic [04:56] its a command line browser, i don't see the need for the lite version [05:01] hwhooops, it has NO gui? they might not be able to handle that. i was thinking of something more like netrik, that i've used on damn small before, i wonder if ubuntu has that in reps? [05:02] never heard of netrik [05:02] i thought dillo was what's on damn small [05:24] I have a problem on a Xubuntu server I manage. The server responds to ping, I can SSH / VNC into it, but it can't access any sites other than the router it uses. I even tried pinging 4.2.2.1, which doesn't work. Any ideas? [05:25] Tixer: wait, you can ping it and ssh into it but you can't ping out of it? [05:25] is the router setup to have it as the dmz? [05:25] it's over a lan [05:25] I can SSH or VNC into it, but once on it, I can only ping my computer and the router. all other sites don't respond. [05:26] I assumed it was a dns issue, but I can't even access IPs like 4.2.2.1 or a couple other I tried. [05:26] Tixer: and you can't ping 4.2.2.2? [05:26] nope [05:26] it says "Network is unreachable" [05:28] however, if I ping the router, or my computer (the one I'm sshing from), both reply [05:28] while connected to it does a web browser connect to the outside world [05:29] nope [05:30] Tixer: are you running firestarter or have some custom iptables configuration that might not be allowing traffic? [05:30] This sounds like a router misconfiguration to me. did the router change at all? [05:31] nope [05:31] and other computers on the router still have access. [05:31] any recent power glitches? [05:31] firestarter isn't installed, but iptables is, and isn't used. [05:32] correction: iptables isn't installed any more. [05:33] Tixer: you can't uninstall iptables ... its built into the kernel [05:34] ahhh!!!! $199 iBook G3 on macofalltrades.com [05:34] tell that to my server, which now gives me "/sbin/iptables" not found [05:34] errr... wrong channel [05:35] Tixer: that's just an admin tool ... but the actual iptables implementation has to do with the packet filter rules of the kernel [05:35] yeah [05:35] but there aren't any rules now, so there's no chance that's causing it. [05:35] Tixer: i think the fact that you don't have it *could* be a problem [05:37] that wouldn't explain why I can get to my router / my computer. [05:38] it's following the only path it has. [05:38] hmmm [05:39] so I just turned on a wifi card the machine has. [05:39] wlan0 can get to the tubes. [05:39] but eth0 can't. [05:40] Tixer: right, but there's *no* rules ... not even ALLOW ALL [05:40] well ... wait, i guess if it were to kill connections it would kill both inbound and outbound ... and wouldn't ... nvm [05:40] i'm a moron, don't listen to me [05:41] no iptables would just freak out when it's trying to route an outbound connection. the router/dns is handling the inbound connection for it. [05:42] hmmm [05:42] it isn't a router problem, because i can use the wifi card to connect to the router and go on the tubes [05:47] it still may be something on the wired side of the router. (most routers handle wifi and wired seperately). try rebooting the router. [05:48] also, are you using dhcp or fixed ip's? [05:48] static ips [05:49] has anything recently changed with the setup? [05:50] nope [05:51] anything at all, new ip from your isp, upgraded any system, changed physical ports on any router, system? [05:51] ummm.... [05:51] >.> [05:52] new ips (dynamic ip), upgraded to 8.04, added like, 3 more wifi cards, removed 2 wifi cards, and yeah. [05:54] essentially, I had a server with like, 4 wifi cards going at once, all using different APs. [05:55] I got bored, and wanted to see how many of my neighbours access points I could steal at once. [05:56] that's probably the issue, try disabling all the wifi cards and rebooting. [05:58] I've removed all of them except one. [05:58] which I just turned off with ifconfig down [06:00] and I still have the issue on eth0 [06:00] I'll try switching eth0 to dhcp [06:00] i would install iptables and see if there's anything interesting. [06:00] how would I go about doing that? [06:01] (not the installing part, the "seeing if there's anything interesting part) [06:04] sudo iptables -L [06:05] I dunno if sudo is required, on my box it is. but i have a weird setup/ [06:12] hrm, I'm not getting resolutions over 600x800 on a new xubuntu install - how do I fix that? [06:12] it'll be a setting in the xorg.conf to do it directly but i dunno if there's a better way to set it. [06:12] hmmm, so I just lost all contact with eth0 [06:13] time to salvage this over wifi [06:13] maybe it's simply a bad nic [06:13] how much of a load is it subject to? is it a card or integrated? [06:14] integrated :( [06:14] load: just about nothing. [06:14] gaurdro: usually I'd 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but it's no longer giving me resolution choices, so I thought mb something changed wrt how it deals w/ resolution issues [06:22] Tixer, I'd try a card nic and see if it solves the problem. [06:22] ummm, well, I just lost contact with the machine [06:22] ugh, I really don't want to have to go down to my basement. [06:23] good you know where the box is. that's a reallly good first step. [06:23] bjron, would you pastebin your xorg.conf? [06:24] yea, one sec. . [06:24] dam, I wish I had photos of my setup with me. [06:24] except they're on my web server >.> [06:24] trust me, a picture is worth a thousand words. [06:26] gaurdro: http://pastebin.com/d3676636e [06:26] thinking it might be just that the monitor I have hooked up is old and doesn't report supported resolutions very well . .. [06:27] * bjron wonders if he can find the analog cable for his newer monitor [06:29] hmm, there's no screen section and it's not reporting the model of monitor attached. it might be worth a hand configuring of the file, look up the specs for your monitor and enter it in. of course, back up the current one before editing it. [06:29] gaurdro: aye [06:29] wait, i'm a idiot, try Xorg -configure first. [06:30] problem is this box isn't for me [06:30] but with the backup first. [06:30] so this isn't the monitor that'll be attached in the future [06:30] hmm, is the future monitor newer? [06:30] most likely [06:31] actually, yea for sure it will be [06:32] but I don't actually know (it's for my great aunt, my uncle bought her a gOS machine, it wasn't working for her, she sent it to me, I decided gOS sucked [plus the recovery cd had errors] so I put xubuntu on it) [06:33] haven't had a chance to call her yet and see what she's got, but I assume it's probably a new lcd type thing - probably came w/ the box, but she didn't send that [06:34] does it have a serial number, you might be able to look it up through support. [06:35] hmm, yea probably does, good thought [06:36] hrm, nope, the invoice I have is just for the box, not the monitory [06:36] I'll try w/ my other monitor and if it works I won't worry about it [06:37] so I'm giving up on my server for tonight. [06:37] good idea, if there's a problem you can always send her a script that will make the necisary changes. I'm assuming she's just a user. [06:37] yup [06:38] probably could use it in 600x800 ok too [06:38] I'll try to hook it up to a keyboard mouse and monitor tomorrow. [06:38] the current monitor / kb isn't exactly working, [06:38] just that some stuff (eg settings dialogues) don't fit all that well [06:39] the monitor currently on my server is a 5" 320x240 PS1 screen, running at 1280x1024 [06:39] as you can imagine, it's like looking at a cracker. [06:39] please tell me it's situated in a coke machine. [06:39] I wish :( [06:40] it's sitting atop a washing machine. [06:40] and the keyboard down there broke two days ago... it lacks both control keys. [06:40] psh, who needs the ctrl key, use your mad ascii skillz [06:40] "hmmm, there's crap in the keyboard... let's give it a bath." [06:41] 5 minutes later... [06:41] "oh shit, I forgot, the thing has a capacitor inside. [06:41] heh, yea that worked like a charm - w/ my newer monitor log out and poof, all kinds of resolution goodness :) [06:41] and alas, I lack working keyboard. [06:41] that's odd, I dishwasher mine whenever it's too dirty. I let it dry and it works fine. [06:42] bjron, good to hear it. [06:42] gaudro: mine has a capacitor inside, because it's got leds and bling. [06:43] alas, it didn't make it through the bubbles. [06:43] that's probably - now that I think of it, why ubuntu and x always has such a hard time auto setting up my dual head setup, since the old crt doesn't report its resolution etc. Always end up having to manually configure. I should just get another new flatscreen :p [06:44] ? so does mine, it's not backlit but it has it's share of led's, do you have like a ceramic cap added to it? [06:45] nope [07:16] hye [07:17] can i know the default login for xubuntu livecd ? === zoredach1_ is now known as zoredache [07:19] didn't it automatically login? [07:20] nope [07:20] are you sure you got booted to the livecd? [07:21] im sure :) [07:21] if that happens with the ubuntu live cd the login is ubuntu and the password is blank so try that [07:21] have tried [07:21] see,the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=755415 [07:22] have try with blank,admin/admin,root/blank, [07:23]