[19:00] <Rinchen> #startmeeting
[19:00] <Rinchen> doh
[19:00] <Rinchen> the one time I don't look for mootbot
[19:00]  * barry mourns mootbot
[19:00] <matsubara> mootbot is on holiday
[19:00] <barry> Rinchen: mootbot is an ex-mootbot, it's pushing up daisies
[19:00] <Rinchen> ah well, old fashioned way today I guess
[19:01] <Rinchen> Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development.
[19:01] <Rinchen> Roll Call
[19:01] <Rinchen> me!
[19:01] <statik> me
[19:01] <barry> me
[19:01] <matsubara> me
[19:01] <schwuk> me
[19:01] <salgado> me
[19:01] <gmb> me
[19:01] <flacoste> me
[19:01] <mars> me
[19:01] <bigjools> me
[19:01] <bac> me
[19:01] <herb_> me
[19:01] <intellectronica> me
[19:01] <thumper> me
[19:01] <sinzui> me
[19:01] <leonardr> me
[19:01] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[19:02] <rockstar_> me
[19:02] <allenap> me
[19:02] <mrevell> me
[19:02] <Rinchen> I have apologies from Brazil, Germany, Lithuania, and Netherlands
[19:03] <Rinchen> I'm missing mpt and kiko
[19:03] <flacoste> Foundations is complete
[19:03] <Rinchen> I'll keep running I guess...see if we pick up stragglers
[19:03] <mars> kiko is at lunch I think
[19:03] <Rinchen> * Next meeting
[19:03] <Rinchen> Anyone know they will be away next week?
[19:04] <thumper> Rinchen: code team will be sprinting
[19:04] <thumper> I'll be here, but the rest probably wont
[19:04] <abentley> me
[19:04] <Rinchen> Ok, same time same please next week then.
[19:04] <Rinchen> * Actions from last meeting
[19:04] <Rinchen> there were none
[19:05] <Rinchen> * Oops report (Matsubara)
[19:05] <Rinchen> matsubara ^^
[19:05] <matsubara> No specific oops report today. I've been following up with people about post rollout oopses
[19:05] <Rinchen> Thanks
[19:05] <matsubara> thank you
[19:05] <Rinchen> * Critical Bugs (Rinchen)
[19:06] <Rinchen> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/206654
[19:06] <Rinchen> This is the memory issue.  It appears to have returned. flacoste, can you comment on what we should do now? More ref counts?
[19:06] <flacoste> Rinchen: yes, start the monitoring instance again and wait for its memory usage to go up
[19:06] <flacoste> Rinchen: that worked very nicely last time
[19:06] <thumper> did we find leaks
[19:06] <thumper> ?
[19:06] <Rinchen> flacoste, great.  Start tomorrow maybe so we get a weekend history?
[19:07] <Rinchen> yes thumper, one big one found and fixed
[19:07] <thumper> cool
[19:07] <flacoste> Rinchen: yes, that's the idea, he LOSAs are aware of this and that was our plan
[19:07] <Rinchen> flacoste, great thanks
[19:07] <Rinchen> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/224623
[19:07] <Rinchen> DB load.
[19:07] <Rinchen> stub isn't here
[19:07] <flacoste> thumper: it was in +bugs-text (the text bug search)
[19:08] <Rinchen> herb, can you please touch base with mthaddon on this tomorrow morning and see if he can ping stub about this?
[19:08] <herb_> sure
[19:08] <Rinchen> thanks herb
[19:09] <Rinchen> There are few more criticals but we're all aware of those and working on them.  Thanks.
[19:09] <Rinchen> * Bug tags
[19:09] <Rinchen> there are no proposals today
[19:09] <Rinchen>  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb)
[19:09] <Rinchen> herb_ ^^
[19:10] <herb_> 1.2.4 Rollout well, with the exception of some problems with buildbot/importd.
[19:10] <herb_> Tom is off tomorrow and my EOD is 2130 UTC. So any additional rollouts will need
[19:10] <herb_>  to be through PQM early enough for me to complete them by 2130.
[19:10] <herb_> And we've already discussed the two bugs that were on my list
[19:10] <herb_> high load on the db and the memory leak
[19:10] <herb_> so that's it from Tom and I unless there are any questions.
[19:11] <Rinchen> thanks herb
[19:11] <Rinchen>  * DBA report (stub)
[19:11] <Rinchen> stub's not available today
[19:11] <Rinchen> * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen)
[19:11] <Rinchen> Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent?
[19:12]  * bigjools waves as usual
[19:12] <cprov> me (very late, sorry)
[19:12] <Rinchen> bigjools, ping me tomorrow afternoon and let's see if we can't make some progress on that
[19:12] <bigjools> Rinchen: roger.
[19:13] <Rinchen> thanks
[19:13] <Rinchen> * New packages required (salgado)
[19:13] <flacoste> salgado: you already handled python-epydoc?
[19:13] <salgado> do we need any other packages for this cycle?
[19:13] <salgado> flacoste, I did
[19:14] <salgado> but looks like I did something wrong
[19:15] <salgado> I'll sort it out
[19:15] <Rinchen> thanks salgado
[19:15] <Rinchen> * A top user-affecting issue (mrevell)
[19:15] <mrevell> Hello. We've had a few requests, lately, that complain about the volume of bug mail or that request a temporary holiday from bug mail.
[19:16] <mrevell> So, I wonder if we could have a "Suspend my bug mail" button in Launchpad accounts.
[19:16] <flacoste> mrevell: we have a bug for that
[19:16] <flacoste> mrevell: and it was scheduled for next cycle, don't know if that will hold yet though
[19:16] <mrevell> flacoste: Ah, I didn't find it. Thanks for letting me know.
[19:16] <matsubara> the vacation mode one?
[19:16] <mrevell> matsubara: That sounds right
[19:16] <barry> yep
[19:16] <flacoste> mrevell: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/launchpad-vacation, there's a bug link to the spec iirc
[19:17] <mrevell> Great, that's brilliant news. Thanks flacoste for the link, back to you Rinchen :)
[19:17] <Rinchen> thanks mrevell
[19:17] <Rinchen> * Doc Team report (mrevell)
[19:17]  * mrevell changes hats
[19:17] <mrevell> I'd like to share some of the feedback I've had on our new release notes format from some of our more hardended users. The feedback is largely positive but, earlier in #launchpad, there was some mourning for the loss of the more comprehensive changelog format and another request for regular updates of what's changed on Edge.
[19:18] <mrevell> In future, if you've worked on something cool, expect me to ask you for a quote (or more) for the release announcement :)
[19:18] <mrevell> Talking of which, I'd love a call with each team lead next week to discuss 1.2.5's docs needs and what stand-out features we should talk about in the release announcement!
[19:18] <gmb> mrevell: Could we add the full changelog as an attachment?
[19:18] <gmb> ... to the abbreviated version, I mean.
[19:18] <gmb> Or put it on t'wiki or something?
[19:18] <statik> mrevell: I liked the quote from thumper
[19:19] <mrevell> gmb: Maybe, but it's additional work. So it's something we need to discuss, I tihnk
[19:19] <statik> I think that is a nice touch in the release announcement
[19:19] <gmb> Right.
[19:19] <mrevell> yes statik, thumper's quote was ace
[19:19] <Rinchen> "Ace"? wow, you're showing your age :-)
[19:19] <mrevell> Oh, and one other thing: I'm going to put out a call for user questions for our podcast. If you want to be in the podcast or have an idea for a feature, please update the Podcast page on our team wiki. I'd like to record and publish it next week.
[19:19] <mrevell> Rinchen: :)
[19:19] <mrevell> And, to come back to the name of this section, I'll be putting some effort into the doc team next week
[19:19] <mrevell> thanks, back to you Rinchen.
[19:19] <Rinchen> thanks mrevell
[19:20] <Rinchen> There are no proposed topics and we have a lot to do in 30 minutes or so .....
[19:20] <Rinchen> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.
[19:20] <Rinchen> = The End! =
[19:20] <mrevell> thanks Rinchen
[19:20] <thumper> OMG!!
[19:20] <thumper> quickest ever
[19:20] <flacoste> Rinchen: go, go, go!
[19:20] <gmb> ZOOOOOM
[19:20] <Rinchen> actually in this case, the channel topic won't help
[19:20] <thumper> thanks Rinchen
[19:20] <gmb> Rinchen: greased for speed.
[19:20] <bac> good job joey
[19:20] <gmb> bad mental image there...
[19:21] <flacoste> lol
[19:21]  * bigjools blinks and looks at his watch
[19:21] <barry> me
[19:21] <barry> oh wait
[19:21] <bigjools> moo
[19:21] <barry> :)