| RzR | kwwii: I started to gather resources about dark themes bugs at http://rzr.online.fr/q/dark I'll keep you informed if it matters | 00:29 |
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| kwwii | RzR: let me take a look at that, 1s | 00:37 |
| kwwii | RzR: that looks like a good start | 00:38 |
| kwwii | RzR: I am sure that we can add to that | 00:38 |
| kwwii | _MMA_ knows quite a few places | 00:38 |
| kwwii | the important thing is that is has to be done in concert with the gnome people upstream or it will never work | 00:39 |
| kwwii | much like the 2D panel icon stuff | 00:39 |
| kwwii | anyway, I was almost in bed | 00:39 |
| RzR | well i am about to go on vacations for 10 days | 00:40 |
| kwwii | tomorrow is a holiday here...see you soon | 00:40 |
| kwwii | hehe | 00:40 |
| kwwii | holidays are lovely | 00:40 |
| kwwii | keep in touch, I think it is an interesting idea | 00:40 |
| RzR | i'll think about moving this draft somewhere more appropriate | 00:40 |
| kwwii | the wiki would be a good place | 00:41 |
| RzR | but it'll takes time | 00:41 |
| kwwii | sure | 00:41 |
| RzR | well that's a long fight against photons :) | 00:42 |
| RzR | but darkness will win it's sure | 00:42 |
| kwwii | lol, right | 00:45 |
| RzR | jezz | 00:54 |
| RzR | i just reported a bug on wireshark | 00:54 |
| RzR | and there is a patch already | 00:55 |
| RzR | this sound promising | 00:55 |
| kwwii | time for sleep here, 2am...see you soon | 00:56 |
| RzR | same here | 00:57 |
| RzR | CET | 00:57 |
| RzR | see ya | 00:57 |
| RzR | kwwii: last question ? | 00:57 |
| RzR | kwwii: is it ok to forward darkmen here ? | 00:58 |
| _MMA_ | Who or what is that? | 00:58 |
| RzR | darthemes users / bug hunters | 00:59 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: You not using Linux? :) Unless Miranda now has a nix client. :P | 01:00 |
| _MMA_ | RzR: "darthemes" I'm sorry. I'm not up on that term. | 01:01 |
| RzR | we talked about it few hours ago | 01:01 |
| RzR | see | 01:01 |
| RzR | http://rzr.online.fr/q/dark | 01:01 |
| _MMA_ | RzR: I think it's best you head up this. | 01:03 |
| _MMA_ | If you make this channel a point of contact, people should look for you. | 01:03 |
| RzR | or other pple intressed into eye candy ... | 01:04 |
| _MMA_ | Im not sure exactly what you're trying to accomplish. | 01:04 |
| _MMA_ | Just making apps more "dark theme" compliant? | 01:05 |
| RzR | yes | 01:05 |
| _MMA_ | Then you need to be the point of contact. | 01:05 |
| _MMA_ | Otherwise people will come in looking for answers and people here will have no clue. | 01:05 |
| RzR | ok if it doesnt ruin my life i can manage this | 01:06 |
| _MMA_ | Well then honestly I wouldn't start something and dump it here if you can head it up. | 01:06 |
| _MMA_ | s/can/can't | 01:06 |
| RzR | no actually i dont know if this topic is interessing pple or not | 01:07 |
| RzR | and I cant run a irc desk 24*7 | 01:07 |
| _MMA_ | Then I wouldn't make this channel or mailing list a point of contact. | 01:08 |
| RzR | but I remove the irc references on my page .. | 01:08 |
| RzR | the point of contact is me actually | 01:08 |
| _MMA_ | Sure. I just said don't make it just the channel. :) | 01:09 |
| RzR | it never was | 01:10 |
| _MMA_ | "RzR: kwwii: is it ok to forward darkmen here ?" That implies you wanted to. I just said not to. ;) | 01:10 |
| RzR | the job will be fun when pple start complaining about closed source applications :) | 01:12 |
| _MMA_ | RzR@#ubuntu-artwork is fine but you said you didn't have the time to be here. So that actually a little unfair to people reading you wiki and to people here. Honestly if you don't have the time I wouldn't start this. | 01:13 |
| damianvila | Hi _MMA_ and everybody | 01:14 |
| damianvila | No, not on Ubuntu right now. Using XP actually | 01:14 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: I loved Miranda. I wish I could still use it. | 01:15 |
| damianvila | _MMA_: Fact is, when you want to fine tune a CSS, you better have good acces to all the browser engine, and I have it easy using XP for that | 01:16 |
| RzR | _MMA_: ok I understand no pb , you might be busy with other project too | 01:17 |
| damianvila | Yep. Adjusting some CSS for a popular site here in Spain :-) | 01:17 |
| RzR | _MMA_: BTW, I am thinking now, transparents icons on dark background may cause trouble too no ? | 01:18 |
| damianvila | So, what's going on here? Do we have the default theme for Intrepid yet? :-D | 01:23 |
| _MMA_ | RzR: Correct. | 01:24 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: I get ya. | 01:24 |
| _MMA_ | Brown=poop | 01:25 |
| _MMA_ | Blue WTW!! | 01:25 |
| damianvila | lol | 01:25 |
| _MMA_ | ;) | 01:25 |
| damianvila | I have a cool *alternative* idea for wallpapers, but I need to discuss it with Troy first :-P | 01:26 |
| _MMA_ | pfftt... What does he know. | 01:26 |
| damianvila | lol | 01:26 |
| damianvila | How's Studio doing? | 01:27 |
| damianvila | Gimmmmme the default!!!!!! I want the defaaaaaault!!!!! lol | 01:31 |
| damianvila | D-E-F-A-U-L-T | 01:35 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: Studio is going well. | 01:35 |
| damianvila | Find out what it means to me... | 01:35 |
| _MMA_ | Kinda takin' a break ATM. | 01:35 |
| damianvila | Oh!, cool | 01:36 |
| _MMA_ | You sir, are not Aretha Franklin. ;) | 01:36 |
| damianvila | lol | 01:36 |
| damianvila | ;-) | 01:36 |
| damianvila | D-E-F-A-U-L-T | 01:37 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: We're waiting on the Intrepid stuff to get in place for the technical bits. I have some ideas art-wise. | 01:37 |
| damianvila | Take care, kwwii lol | 01:37 |
| _MMA_ | But not anything solid yet. Ill do that after UDS. | 01:37 |
| damianvila | Any hints so far from sabdfl about what he wants (art-wise) for Intrepid? | 01:41 |
| _MMA_ | Won't likely happen 'till after UDS. | 01:41 |
| damianvila | K | 01:41 |
| _MMA_ | So 3 weeks or so. | 01:41 |
| damianvila | Where is it? (UDS) | 01:42 |
| _MMA_ | Prague | 01:43 |
| damianvila | Oh! If they ever make one in Madrid I could attend... :-P | 01:44 |
| _MMA_ | They did. (I think) | 01:44 |
| damianvila | Really? | 01:45 |
| _MMA_ | Thought so. I'm gonna go to Dublin after Prague to hang out with Luis. (another Spaniard) | 01:45 |
| damianvila | Cool | 01:46 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: He was that guy we realized was like a block or 2 from you. | 01:47 |
| damianvila | I want to travel to Germany sometime. Czech Republic too. | 01:47 |
| _MMA_ | Germany would be cool. | 01:47 |
| damianvila | _MMA_: Oh!, yes, I remember him. | 01:47 |
| _MMA_ | Yeah. He got a job with Sun in Dublin. | 01:48 |
| _MMA_ | Well, paid internship rather. | 01:48 |
| damianvila | Nice | 01:48 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: 67 MESSAGES! I HATE YOU. | 05:29 |
| _MMA_ | troy_s: It ain't all me. :) | 05:37 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: ITS YOU | 05:37 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: YOU KNOW ITS YOU | 05:37 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Not to mention that I swear in two days I have 200 emails with the same subject "STOP TOP POSTING" | 05:37 |
| troy_s | lol | 05:37 |
| _MMA_ | hahahaha. Well. The kids are arseholes. :) | 05:38 |
| troy_s | _MMA_: Well you are one of those kids... So your estimate would be spot on. ;) Of course, you already know this. | 05:40 |
| _MMA_ | Pfftt... | 05:41 |
| DanaG | Heh, those people complaining about too much whitespace on their panels..... | 06:17 |
| DanaG | show them MY panel. Got not whitespace? | 06:17 |
| coz_ | so anything new? what wasnt in hardy is going to be worked on for Intrepid? | 07:40 |
| phoenix24_ | Hi | 10:41 |
| phoenix24_ | _MMA_, ping | 10:41 |
| phoenix24_ | kwwii, ping | 10:42 |
| phoenix24_ | Is there a tools that automatically generates the gnome themes ? | 10:42 |
| phoenix24_ | or one that allows users to customize those imported themes ? | 10:43 |
| thorwil | good morning nand | 10:45 |
| nand | thorwil: good morning! | 10:47 |
| * thorwil is at the drawing board | 10:47 | |
| nand | is it national holiday day for you too? | 10:48 |
| nand | cool :) | 10:48 |
| thorwil | jepp | 10:48 |
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| coz_ | good day all | 12:27 |
| mysterycool | Hello. | 14:58 |
| mysterycool | When ubuntu developers say that we can submit our work, what kind of "work" do they mean? | 14:59 |
| mysterycool | I mean like, in what format? Ideas, sketches etc..? | 14:59 |
| thorwil | yes yes, that too | 14:59 |
| mysterycool | what do u mean that too | 15:00 |
| mysterycool | ? | 15:00 |
| mysterycool | :s | 15:00 |
| mysterycool | What do they exactly want us to submit? | 15:00 |
| thorwil | mysterycool: depends on what you want to work on and how far is developed | 15:01 |
| mysterycool | hmm, so u mean I could suggest ideas etc..? | 15:01 |
| thorwil | mysterycool: you sure can. but you know that basic ideas are cheap and plenty, right? ;) | 15:01 |
| mysterycool | erm... | 15:02 |
| mysterycool | XD | 15:02 |
| mysterycool | and btw, whats the UTC time anyway? :S | 15:02 |
| mysterycool | i mean, what timezone does it follow? | 15:02 |
| thorwil | mysterycool: it's the zero timezone, the mother, the origin, the center of the timezone universe, where everything starts | 15:03 |
| mysterycool | o_O | 15:03 |
| mysterycool | u mean greenwich timezone? XD | 15:03 |
| thorwil | yes, for all i know they are identical | 15:03 |
| thorwil | formerly known as GMT | 15:03 |
| mysterycool | yes | 15:04 |
| _MMA_ | I *think* there is a time of year where they are an hour out of sync but I can't remember for sure. | 15:05 |
| mysterycool | hmm | 15:05 |
| mysterycool | shoot, lost today's meeting =[ | 15:05 |
| thorwil | which one? | 15:06 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: i would like to punch all the people responsible for daylight savings time :> | 15:06 |
| _MMA_ | :P | 15:07 |
| mysterycool | XD | 15:07 |
| mysterycool | :p | 15:07 |
| mysterycool | lol | 15:07 |
| mysterycool | XD | 15:07 |
| _MMA_ | Couldn't that have been on 1 line? ;) | 15:08 |
| mysterycool | details XD :p | 15:08 |
| kwwii | btw, today is a holiday here so I am not around :p | 15:53 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: <insert smart-ass comment here> | 15:54 |
| * _MMA_ doesn't have his creative wit happening today. | 15:55 | |
| thorwil | just today? | 15:59 |
| _MMA_ | Yes. | 16:04 |
| kwwii | what is all the talk of _MMA_ having a supposed wit? nonsense! | 16:12 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Aren't you supposed to be drinkin' a beer or something? | 16:13 |
| kwwii | I just rode 15 miles on my bike, no thanks on the beer | 16:14 |
| kwwii | actually, I just lit the fire in the grill | 16:15 |
| kwwii | we gonna have us a bar-b-q :-) | 16:15 |
| _MMA_ | kwwii: Nice. | 16:18 |
| cody-somerville | _MMA_, Did you see my latest blog post? | 16:50 |
| _MMA_ | I think it's safe to assume if its on Planet most people would. :) | 16:50 |
| nand | thorwil: hey, thanks! I answered on the ML | 16:51 |
| cody-somerville | _MMA_, :P | 16:51 |
| saltedlight | hello :) | 17:04 |
| coz_ | hello all | 17:06 |
| _MMA_ | hi | 17:09 |
| bersace | :( | 17:14 |
| bersace | seems that a lot of people are use to build linux artwork by copying proprietary os policy :( | 17:14 |
| saltedlight | :)) | 17:15 |
| saltedlight | at least they do not use windows tools for that... or am i wrong? :)) | 17:15 |
| coz_ | saltedlight, for artwork creating? I use windows tools | 18:01 |
| DanaG | Too bad there's no equivalent of "SkinStudio" for GTK themes. | 18:02 |
| gaurav_ | can i see some of the stuff you guys have created? | 18:08 |
| gaurav_ | see what i'm up against, heheh | 18:08 |
| _MMA_ | Some of mine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork | 18:10 |
| _MMA_ | thorwil: You done any metacity hacking? | 18:11 |
| thorwil | _MMA_: nope | 18:38 |
| _MMA_ | np. I got it sorted anyway. I needed to remove the app menu usually in the top left. | 18:41 |
| _MMA_ | Can one override button_layout in Metacity with settings metacity-theme-1.xml? | 19:19 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: You ever hack on Metacity? | 19:43 |
| damianvila | No, frankly speaking, I'm just a designer, I don't have lots of technical knowledge and only deal with technical details if I'm obligued to. | 19:45 |
| _MMA_ | Ok. :) | 19:45 |
| damianvila | I have enough knowledge so as to know what's possible and what not, but I get bored if I delve into technicalities :-P | 19:47 |
| * _MMA_ is delving into technicalities. | 19:47 | |
| damianvila | That's why I tend to have lots of friends who know how to code :-D | 19:48 |
| _MMA_ | Nice resource: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html | 19:48 |
| damianvila | Wow!, cool! | 19:50 |
| damianvila | Doesn't look too difficult at all. | 19:50 |
| damianvila | In fact, I work a lot with XML at my work. | 19:50 |
| _MMA_ | Makes looking at one you're working with easier to understand. | 19:50 |
| damianvila | Yep | 19:51 |
| damianvila | You know if it's difficult to add a tab to the GNOME Theme manager? | 19:51 |
| damianvila | Like they did with the "Effects" Compiz tab for Ubutu? | 19:52 |
| damianvila | *Ubuntu | 19:52 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: I think it requires writing C code. Would be a patch to the source. | 19:52 |
| damianvila | _MMA_: Oh!, i supposed it involved something like that :-P | 19:53 |
| damianvila | Have to talk to the GNOME guys then... | 19:53 |
| _MMA_ | damianvila: Im really just guessing. :) I wouldnt think it was python or something. | 19:55 |
| damianvila | OK :-) | 19:56 |
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| marcusrussi | where is the website for the theme that's in development? | 23:45 |
| marcusrussi | like for intrepid? | 23:46 |
| damianvila | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid | 23:56 |
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