| bjwood0 | bspencer: I did the pkill gconfd and it fixed it, whew! :P | 00:01 |
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| bjwood0 | bspencer: I also noticed I don't have to comment out the brightness line in the statusbar.conf now :) | 00:07 |
| inkynoob | How is X supposed to start with Ubuntu Mobile? Should I be installing GDM just to have it auto login and auto start UME? | 00:13 |
| GrueMaster | It is part of the install. | 00:20 |
| inkynoob | I installed on my eee with Ubuntu JeOS + the ubuntu-mobile package | 00:21 |
| GrueMaster | Oh. | 00:21 |
| GrueMaster | This is part of an entire image. Not sure how it works on a desktop image (which you have). | 00:21 |
| inkynoob | I suppose I'll create an image tonight and pick it apart to see what it's doing | 00:22 |
| GrueMaster | Try downloading a daily snapshot of the live usb image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/mccaslin | 00:22 |
| GrueMaster | oops. Bad link. Try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/hardy/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/ | 00:23 |
| inkynoob | ah, that's better :-) | 00:23 |
| GrueMaster | Not quite optimised for the Eee, but close. | 00:23 |
| inkynoob | thanks, I'll take a look at it | 00:25 |
| ToddBrandt | kyleN_: can https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/206389 be closed? | 00:39 |
| kyleN_ | ToddBrandt: question: is there another moblin bug or other commitment to make theme switching for the marquee panels work when the /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme key changes? this is an issue we need to follow through on. framework should work. gtk-theme-switcher ui is extra credit. by the way - my internet is hit or miss now since I am not at home. | 00:54 |
| ToddBrandt | kyleN_: bspencer is the owner of the marquee panels, I'll ping him on it. I guess it depends on how major an issue it is to fix. oh, and do you use gtk-theme-switcher instead of the gnome-control-center theme switcher? I'll try that if so since the gtk one is much lighter | 00:57 |
| kyleN_ | ToddBrandt: the main point is to change the gconf key (however) and everything else works | 00:58 |
| kyleN_ | the only part that doesn't now that I know of is the marquee panels | 00:58 |
| ToddBrandt | ok, let me put that in the comments of the bug then | 00:58 |
| kyleN_ | thx | 00:58 |
| kyleN_ | and it is major | 00:58 |
| ToddBrandt | high? | 00:58 |
| kyleN_ | lets take that up in the thursday bug triage with tony? | 00:59 |
| ToddBrandt | soudns good, I'll leave it as is for now | 00:59 |
| kyleN_ | ok | 00:59 |
| ToddBrandt | here's the comment: ok, this bug is nearly fixed. The only thing left is that the marquee doesn't seem to propagate theme changes when the gtk_theme key is changed. | 00:59 |
| kyleN_ | excellent | 01:00 |
| kyleN_ | appreciate... | 01:01 |
| ToddBrandt | no problem | 01:01 |
| bspencer | kyleN_, | 01:06 |
| kyleN_ | yes bspencer | 01:06 |
| bspencer | per lool, apps usually don't listen to the gconf key | 01:06 |
| kyleN_ | we need to take this up with bfiller and others present | 01:07 |
| bspencer | but your scenario should owrk | 01:07 |
| kyleN_ | all gtk apps do here changes to THIS key | 01:07 |
| bspencer | gconf -- then ToddBrandt does something to notifiy | 01:07 |
| kyleN_ | through xsettings | 01:07 |
| bspencer | yes. | 01:07 |
| bspencer | ok. so let's discuss thursday | 01:08 |
| kyleN_ | so marquee panels, as gtk apps should listen, right? | 01:08 |
| bspencer | not necessarily to the key, but via xsettings | 01:08 |
| kyleN_ | ok. we have a talking point | 01:08 |
| kyleN_ | let's discuss tomorrow | 01:08 |
| rolando-ve | Hi | 02:23 |
| rolando-ve | Well I'm very newby with this | 02:23 |
| rolando-ve | But I'll try to ask | 02:24 |
| rolando-ve | If anyone can Help me, I will so glad | 02:24 |
| rolando-ve | This is my case: | 02:24 |
| rolando-ve | I have in my hands a Mini Computer Pannel, this one have a Transmeta T5500 Processor | 02:25 |
| rolando-ve | And have 2 Gb Flash Disk | 02:25 |
| rolando-ve | I wanna install in this Ubuntu Mobile. | 02:25 |
| rolando-ve | It's? Possible? | 02:25 |
| rolando-ve | Have 256 RAM | 02:26 |
| rolando-ve | Help? | 03:40 |
| rolando-ve | :-D | 03:40 |
| linx | G'day u all | 11:25 |
| linx | I have a htc shift upmc (or close to be a upmc :D ) from where can I download the ubuntu mobile version to test it on it ? | 11:26 |
| linx | I did not say that address me to download it or see the evolution of this project | 11:27 |
| linx | I'm pretty interested in this kinda sowftware | 11:27 |
| linx | I'm not sure if htc shift is compatible now with ubuntu mobile | 11:30 |
| linx | In one of the links said that is ported on it but in the image creator stuff just talk about one dvice supported no the htc one | 11:32 |
| linx | please can any one address me ? is the first time that I take in touch with this project | 11:33 |
| linx | hi | 11:41 |
| linx | eo | 11:41 |
| linx | any available | 11:47 |
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| Raseel | Hi guys, I need some help with image-creator | 14:48 |
| Raseel | After I install a target and Add Fsets (Samsung-full-moble-stack) , I tried running ume-xephyr-start | 14:49 |
| Raseel | But I got the following error : Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! | 14:49 |
| lool | Raseel: This is probably not fatal | 14:57 |
| lool | Just a warning | 14:57 |
| Raseel | @lool : Yes, but my UI won't open up | 14:58 |
| Raseel | @lool : It just crashes | 14:59 |
| lool | Raseel: Does other stuff come up in your xephyr? | 15:01 |
| persia | Raseel: And if it comes up (xclock is a good test app), does it come up full-screen? | 15:02 |
| lool | ppa copies are really nice | 15:11 |
| lool | cprov: Nice ^ :) | 15:12 |
| cprov | lool: thanks | 15:12 |
| lool | cprov: Do you happen to know why lpia is shown as official for hardy and not for gutsy? | 15:12 |
| lool | AFAIK, the binaries are still on ports.u.c, not archive.u.c | 15:12 |
| cprov | lool: it's configured that way, check with some archive-admin to know if they have any reason. They can change it. | 15:13 |
| lool | Ok, thanks | 15:13 |
| lool | "You can now subscribe to all the bugs affecting a project group" cool | 15:13 |
| lool | I can finally subscribe to moblin bugs | 15:13 |
| davidm | meeting starts in 2 minutes | 16:58 |
| davidm | looking to be a short meeting | 16:58 |
| Zic | davidm: in #ubuntu-meeting ? | 16:58 |
| davidm | here | 16:59 |
| davidm | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting/20080501 | 16:59 |
| davidm | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| Zic | (thanks) | 17:00 |
| davidm | Opps no mootbot | 17:00 |
| davidm | Oh well I'll make manual logs | 17:00 |
| davidm | bspenser is not here | 17:01 |
| davidm | topic was: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted] | 17:01 |
| davidm | I'll take that as no one has any input, I'll carry it forward then. | 17:03 |
| davidm | next topic was: (davidm) fix links in IRC logs | 17:03 |
| davidm | Which I have accomplished | 17:04 |
| davidm | Ah, hi bspencer | 17:04 |
| bspencer | morning | 17:04 |
| davidm | I'll repost the query for you | 17:04 |
| davidm | mootbot is missing this morning so I'll make logs manually | 17:04 |
| davidm | new topic: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted] | 17:05 |
| Hobbsee | ah yes, should poke to get that recreated. | 17:05 |
| davidm | bspencer, progress? | 17:05 |
| bspencer | posted | 17:05 |
| bspencer | I added a link to Kyle's i18n page | 17:05 |
| davidm | bspencer, thanks. Great, anything that will raise issues? | 17:05 |
| bspencer | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/I18nMobileCode/ApplicationStatus | 17:06 |
| bspencer | issues: 2 "In progress" components | 17:06 |
| bspencer | perhaps we can prioritize these in tony's sync-up meeting with us at 10am | 17:06 |
| davidm | OK sounds good. | 17:06 |
| davidm | Do I need to carry anything for next week? | 17:07 |
| bspencer | the two in-progress will probably be tracked elsewhere, so I guess not | 17:07 |
| bspencer | as bugs, for example. | 17:07 |
| davidm | OK, thanks | 17:07 |
| davidm | OK that concludes old business then | 17:08 |
| davidm | And I don't have any new topics on the meeting page. | 17:08 |
| davidm | Any opens from the floor? | 17:08 |
| GrueMaster | When can we expect the next Beta snapshot? | 17:08 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, the next one should be tomorrow morning | 17:09 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, thanks. | 17:09 |
| bspencer | yes, and what is our target goal for UME release? | 17:09 |
| davidm | StevenK, is finishing it in his AM and will post. | 17:09 |
| davidm | bspencer, target is currently WW20 for RC | 17:10 |
| * bspencer scrambles for decoder ring | 17:10 | |
| davidm | might slip depending on bug lists | 17:10 |
| davidm | Week of the 11th | 17:10 |
| bspencer | May 11-17th | 17:10 |
| bspencer | got it | 17:10 |
| davidm | with a final (I hope) by May 30 | 17:10 |
| davidm | We will continue to work bug fixes during UDS if need be and then go final after we are all back from it. | 17:11 |
| GrueMaster | With that in mind, there are a few basic holes that need to get filled. Namely, automount for USB and file management. | 17:11 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, file management? | 17:12 |
| bspencer | GrueMaster, for "file management" you want a file manager program? | 17:12 |
| bspencer | like nautilus | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | Kind of hard to transfer files otherwise. | 17:12 |
| bspencer | initially we tried to hide the file view to the user and make the import utilties smart enough to show the right info. | 17:12 |
| GrueMaster | The media player doens't have one. | 17:12 |
| davidm | That was decussed in prior UDS and decided not to have one. | 17:12 |
| bspencer | I have some ideas here. | 17:12 |
| bspencer | GrueMaster, I think we can solve your issues w/o a file manager per say | 17:12 |
| bspencer | but open for debate. | 17:12 |
| bspencer | sometimes we make things harder by trying to make them simpler. | 17:13 |
| GrueMaster | Not looking for anything major, but the users will probably like to organise their files and documents somehow. | 17:13 |
| davidm | We can add something but at this late date will not be hildonized | 17:13 |
| GrueMaster | I haven't tried the import from media player, but if it just goes and grabs, I'd hate to plug a 160gb external drive to my 4Gb mid. | 17:14 |
| davidm | This might be a UDS topic for next version | 17:14 |
| davidm | would be interesting since it will fill flash pretty quickly. | 17:15 |
| bspencer | GrueMaster, agree | 17:15 |
| GrueMaster | At any rate, we still need to implement automount for usb drives. Unless we want the user to open a terminal and manually mount drives. | 17:16 |
| davidm | I was under the impression that it was automouting them | 17:16 |
| davidm | But if not have you filed a bug? | 17:16 |
| GrueMaster | It doesn't here. | 17:16 |
| GrueMaster | I can file a bug, but I'm a bit gun shy after the last one. | 17:17 |
| davidm | cgregan, have you come across this? | 17:17 |
| GrueMaster | And I had reported this a long time ago, before launchpad. | 17:17 |
| cgregan | In an interview for henrik | 17:17 |
| davidm | cgregan, Ok | 17:18 |
| GrueMaster | This may have been fixed in the dailies. Last time I looked at this was 0408 | 17:18 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, I'll ask cgregan to catch up with you later to get this checked out. | 17:18 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 17:18 |
| davidm | I seem to remember that there was some issue but it was with MIC not making a partation that was needed. | 17:19 |
| davidm | OK any other issues? | 17:19 |
| GrueMaster | That may have been for the usb client. | 17:19 |
| davidm | could be | 17:20 |
| davidm | OK, if no other issues, endmeeting going once............................................................ | 17:20 |
| davidm | OK, if no other issues, endmeeting going twice.................... | 17:21 |
| davidm | endmeeting | 17:23 |
| davidm | Thanks everyone. | 17:23 |
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| cgregan | GrueMaster, davidm: I have seen this. I would expect a file manager window or some sort of wizard to come up when you insert a USB drive. But no action is taken. I believe there is some work on this in Lex. | 17:31 |
| davidm | cgregan, the media player should import music, no file manager is expected | 17:31 |
| davidm | that was decided last UDS. | 17:32 |
| cgregan | Ok...lemme load a couple files to my key | 17:32 |
| davidm | But if USB is not getting mounted that is an issue. | 17:32 |
| GrueMaster | Shouldn't udev at least mount the drive? When I manually mount a drive, then the media manager window pops up asking if I want to import files. | 17:32 |
| cgregan | I see | 17:32 |
| cgregan | What is the default device? | 17:32 |
| cgregan | Where does the spec say it should be mounted? /media ? | 17:33 |
| GrueMaster | default device? It depends on if there is a partition defined on the device or not. | 17:33 |
| cgregan | /dev/? | 17:33 |
| cgregan | sbd? | 17:33 |
| GrueMaster | the device shows up in /dev, but is not mounted. | 17:33 |
| GrueMaster | could be sdb, or sdc if you have two usb devices. | 17:34 |
| GrueMaster | could also be sdb1 if it is an original device not imaged with dd. | 17:34 |
| cgregan | GrueMaster: Yep..no mounted FS on my Jax device | 17:37 |
| cgregan | Looks like we are not doing it | 17:37 |
| cgregan | Definite bug. Please enter | 17:37 |
| davidm | cgregan, please add it to the bug list then, thanks | 17:37 |
| cgregan | davidm: Ok..I will file | 17:38 |
| qense | Does Ubuntu Mobile support Blackberry? | 17:51 |
| qense | And what sync utilities are there to sync it with your Ubuntu desktop? | 17:52 |
| GrueMaster | qense: To the first question - no. Please read the FAQ. To the second question, I'm not sure that has been addressed yet. It is a good question, though. | 17:53 |
| qense | thanks! | 17:53 |
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| tonyespy_ | ToddBrandt, bspencer: anyone going to participate in the bug triage mtg? | 18:07 |
| ToddBrandt | tonyespy: I'm in the bridge | 18:08 |
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| ScorpKing | hi guys. how much will image-creator download? | 22:25 |
| ScorpKing | i'm at "I: Retrieving dpkg-dev" now. | 22:26 |
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| * ScorpKing needs to reboot.. | 22:36 | |
| * ScorpKing is back.. | 22:59 | |
| adem | hello | 22:59 |
| adem | i have a question, does port ubuntu on a pocket pc, like the htc polaris | 23:00 |
| adem | anyone? | 23:00 |
| GrueMaster | Apparently the FAQ doesn't cover this. Or, you missed the link at the top of the room. In short, no. | 23:07 |
| persia | adem: Not currently. There largest issue currently is CPU support: Ubuntu Mobile is only for i386 devices at this point. | 23:07 |
| ScorpKing | how can i make the image-creator download the packages from my local repo instead of the internet? | 23:19 |
| ScorpKing | nvm. found it in /usr/share/pdk/default_config/defaults.cfg | 23:21 |
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