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bjwood0bspencer: I did the pkill gconfd and it fixed it, whew! :P00:01
bjwood0bspencer: I also noticed I don't have to comment out the brightness line in the statusbar.conf now :)00:07
inkynoobHow is X supposed to start with Ubuntu Mobile? Should I be installing GDM just to have it auto login and auto start UME? 00:13
GrueMasterIt is part of the install.00:20
inkynoobI installed on my eee with Ubuntu JeOS + the ubuntu-mobile package00:21
GrueMasterOh.  00:21
GrueMasterThis is part of an entire image.  Not sure how it works on a desktop image (which you have).00:21
inkynoobI suppose I'll create an image tonight and pick it apart to see what it's doing00:22
GrueMasterTry downloading a daily snapshot of the live usb image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/mccaslin00:22
GrueMasteroops.  Bad link.  Try http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/hardy/mccaslin_samsungq1ultrafull/00:23
inkynoobah, that's better :-) 00:23
GrueMasterNot quite optimised for the Eee, but close.00:23
inkynoobthanks, I'll take a look at it00:25
ToddBrandtkyleN_: can https://bugs.launchpad.net/moblin-applets/+bug/206389 be closed? 00:39
kyleN_ToddBrandt: question: is there another moblin bug or other commitment to make theme switching for the  marquee panels work when the /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme key changes? this is an issue we need to follow through on. framework should work. gtk-theme-switcher ui is extra credit. by the way - my internet is hit or miss now since I am not at home.00:54
ToddBrandtkyleN_: bspencer is the owner of the marquee panels, I'll ping him on it. I guess it depends on how major an issue it is to fix. oh, and do you use gtk-theme-switcher instead of the gnome-control-center theme switcher? I'll try that if so since the gtk one is much lighter00:57
kyleN_ToddBrandt: the main point is to change the gconf key (however) and everything else works00:58
kyleN_the only part that doesn't now that I know of is the marquee panels00:58
ToddBrandtok, let me put that in the comments of the bug then00:58
kyleN_thx00:58
kyleN_and it is major00:58
ToddBrandthigh?00:58
kyleN_lets take that up in the thursday bug triage with tony?00:59
ToddBrandtsoudns good, I'll leave it as is for now00:59
kyleN_ok00:59
ToddBrandthere's the comment: ok, this bug is nearly fixed. The only thing left is that the marquee doesn't seem to propagate theme changes when the gtk_theme key is changed.00:59
kyleN_excellent01:00
kyleN_appreciate...01:01
ToddBrandtno problem01:01
bspencerkyleN_, 01:06
kyleN_yes bspencer 01:06
bspencerper lool, apps usually don't listen to the gconf key01:06
kyleN_we need to take this up with bfiller and others present01:07
bspencerbut your scenario should owrk01:07
kyleN_all gtk apps do here changes to THIS key01:07
bspencergconf -- then ToddBrandt does something to notifiy01:07
kyleN_through xsettings01:07
bspenceryes.01:07
bspencerok.  so let's discuss thursday01:08
kyleN_so marquee panels, as gtk apps should listen, right?01:08
bspencernot necessarily to the key, but via xsettings01:08
kyleN_ok. we have a talking point01:08
kyleN_let's discuss tomorrow01:08
rolando-veHi02:23
rolando-veWell I'm very newby with this02:23
rolando-veBut I'll try to ask02:24
rolando-veIf anyone can Help me, I will so glad02:24
rolando-veThis is my case:02:24
rolando-veI have in my hands a Mini Computer Pannel, this one have a Transmeta T5500 Processor02:25
rolando-veAnd have 2 Gb Flash Disk02:25
rolando-veI wanna install in this Ubuntu Mobile.02:25
rolando-veIt's? Possible?02:25
rolando-veHave 256 RAM 02:26
rolando-veHelp?03:40
rolando-ve:-D03:40
linxG'day u all 11:25
linxI have a htc shift upmc (or close to be a upmc :D ) from where can I download the ubuntu mobile version to test it on it ? 11:26
linxI did not say that address me to download it or see the evolution of this project11:27
linxI'm pretty interested in this kinda sowftware11:27
linxI'm not sure if htc shift is compatible now with ubuntu mobile11:30
linxIn one of the links said that is ported on it but in the image creator stuff just talk about one dvice supported no the htc one11:32
linxplease can any one address me ? is the first time that I take in touch with this project11:33
linxhi11:41
linxeo11:41
linxany available11:47
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RaseelHi guys, I need some help with image-creator14:48
RaseelAfter I install a target and Add Fsets (Samsung-full-moble-stack) , I tried running ume-xephyr-start14:49
RaseelBut I got the following error : Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list!14:49
loolRaseel: This is probably not fatal14:57
loolJust a warning14:57
Raseel@lool :  Yes, but my UI won't open up14:58
Raseel@lool :  It just crashes14:59
loolRaseel: Does other stuff come up in your xephyr?15:01
persiaRaseel: And if it comes up (xclock is a good test app), does it come up full-screen?15:02
loolppa copies are really nice15:11
loolcprov: Nice ^ :)15:12
cprovlool: thanks15:12
loolcprov: Do you happen to know why lpia is shown as official for hardy and not for gutsy?15:12
loolAFAIK, the binaries are still on ports.u.c, not archive.u.c15:12
cprovlool: it's configured that way, check with some archive-admin to know if they have any reason. They can change it.15:13
loolOk, thanks15:13
lool"You can now subscribe to all the bugs affecting a project group" cool15:13
loolI can finally subscribe to moblin bugs15:13
davidmmeeting starts in 2 minutes16:58
davidmlooking to be a short meeting16:58
Zicdavidm: in #ubuntu-meeting ?16:58
davidmhere16:59
davidmhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting/2008050116:59
davidm#startmeeting17:00
Zic(thanks)17:00
davidmOpps no mootbot17:00
davidmOh well I'll make manual logs17:00
davidmbspenser is not here17:01
davidmtopic was: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted] 17:01
davidmI'll take that as no one has any input, I'll carry it forward then.17:03
davidmnext topic was: (davidm) fix links in IRC logs 17:03
davidmWhich I have accomplished17:04
davidmAh, hi bspencer 17:04
bspencermorning17:04
davidmI'll repost the query for you17:04
davidmmootbot is missing this morning so I'll make logs manually17:04
davidmnew topic: (bspencer) document status of i18n of moblin modules on Ubuntu wiki; needs discussion with asac and cwong for FF [cted] 17:05
Hobbseeah yes, should poke to get that recreated.17:05
davidmbspencer, progress?17:05
bspencerposted17:05
bspencerI added a link to Kyle's i18n page17:05
davidmbspencer, thanks.  Great, anything that will raise issues?17:05
bspencerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/I18nMobileCode/ApplicationStatus17:06
bspencerissues:  2 "In progress" components17:06
bspencerperhaps we can prioritize these in tony's sync-up meeting with us at 10am17:06
davidmOK sounds good.17:06
davidmDo I need to carry anything for next week?17:07
bspencerthe two in-progress will probably be tracked elsewhere, so I guess not17:07
bspenceras bugs, for example.17:07
davidmOK, thanks17:07
davidmOK that concludes old business then17:08
davidmAnd I don't have any new topics on the meeting page.17:08
davidmAny opens from the floor?17:08
GrueMasterWhen can we expect the next Beta snapshot?17:08
davidmGrueMaster, the next one should be tomorrow morning17:09
GrueMasterOk, thanks.17:09
bspenceryes, and what is our target goal for UME release?17:09
davidmStevenK, is finishing it in his AM and will post.17:09
davidmbspencer, target is currently WW20 for RC 17:10
* bspencer scrambles for decoder ring17:10
davidmmight slip depending on bug lists17:10
davidmWeek of the 11th17:10
bspencerMay 11-17th17:10
bspencergot it17:10
davidmwith a final (I hope) by May 3017:10
davidmWe will continue to work bug fixes during UDS if need be and then go final after we are all back from it.17:11
GrueMasterWith that in mind, there are a few basic holes that need to get filled.  Namely, automount for USB and file management.17:11
davidmGrueMaster, file management?17:12
bspencerGrueMaster, for "file management" you want a file manager program?17:12
bspencerlike nautilus17:12
GrueMasterKind of hard to transfer files otherwise.17:12
bspencerinitially we tried to hide the file view to the user and make the import utilties smart enough to show the right info.17:12
GrueMasterThe media player doens't have one.17:12
davidmThat was decussed in prior UDS and decided not to have one.17:12
bspencerI have some ideas here.17:12
bspencerGrueMaster, I think we can solve your issues w/o a file manager per say17:12
bspencerbut open for debate.17:12
bspencersometimes we make things harder by trying to make them simpler.17:13
GrueMasterNot looking for anything major, but the users will probably like to organise their files and documents somehow.17:13
davidmWe can add something but at this late date will not be hildonized17:13
GrueMasterI haven't tried the import from media player, but if it just goes and grabs, I'd hate to plug a 160gb external drive to my 4Gb mid.17:14
davidmThis might be a UDS topic for next version17:14
davidmwould be interesting since it will fill flash pretty quickly.17:15
bspencerGrueMaster, agree17:15
GrueMasterAt any rate, we still need to implement automount for usb drives.  Unless we want the user to open a terminal and manually mount drives.17:16
davidmI was under the impression that it was automouting them17:16
davidmBut if not have you filed a bug?17:16
GrueMasterIt doesn't here.17:16
GrueMasterI can file a bug, but I'm a bit gun shy after the last one.17:17
davidmcgregan, have you come across this?17:17
GrueMasterAnd I had reported this a long time ago, before launchpad.17:17
cgreganIn an interview for henrik17:17
davidmcgregan, Ok17:18
GrueMasterThis may have been fixed in the dailies.  Last time I looked at this was 040817:18
davidmGrueMaster, I'll ask cgregan to catch up with you later to get this checked out.17:18
GrueMasterok17:18
davidmI seem to remember that there was some issue but it was with MIC not making a partation that was needed.17:19
davidmOK any other issues?17:19
GrueMasterThat may have been for the usb client.17:19
davidmcould be17:20
davidmOK, if no other issues, endmeeting going once............................................................17:20
davidmOK, if no other issues, endmeeting going twice....................17:21
davidmendmeeting17:23
davidmThanks everyone.17:23
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cgreganGrueMaster, davidm: I have seen this. I would expect a file manager window or some sort of wizard to come up when you insert a USB drive. But no action is taken. I believe there is some work on this in Lex.17:31
davidmcgregan, the media player should import music, no file manager is expected17:31
davidmthat was decided last UDS.17:32
cgreganOk...lemme load a couple files to my key17:32
davidmBut if USB is not getting mounted that is an issue.17:32
GrueMasterShouldn't udev at least mount the drive?  When I manually mount a drive, then the media manager window pops up asking if I want to import files.17:32
cgreganI see17:32
cgreganWhat is the default device?17:32
cgreganWhere does the spec say it should be mounted? /media ?17:33
GrueMasterdefault device?  It depends on if there is a partition defined on the device or not.17:33
cgregan/dev/?17:33
cgregansbd?17:33
GrueMasterthe device shows up in /dev, but is not mounted.17:33
GrueMastercould be sdb, or sdc if you have two usb devices.17:34
GrueMastercould also be sdb1 if it is an original device not imaged with dd.17:34
cgreganGrueMaster: Yep..no mounted FS on my Jax device17:37
cgreganLooks like we are not doing it17:37
cgreganDefinite bug. Please enter17:37
davidmcgregan, please add it to the bug list then, thanks17:37
cgregandavidm: Ok..I will file17:38
qenseDoes Ubuntu Mobile support Blackberry?17:51
qenseAnd what sync utilities are there to sync it with your Ubuntu desktop?17:52
GrueMasterqense:  To the first question - no.  Please read the FAQ.  To the second question, I'm not sure that has been addressed yet.  It is a good question, though.17:53
qensethanks!17:53
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tonyespy_ToddBrandt, bspencer: anyone going to participate in the bug triage mtg?18:07
ToddBrandttonyespy: I'm in the bridge18:08
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ScorpKinghi guys. how much will image-creator download?22:25
ScorpKingi'm at "I: Retrieving dpkg-dev" now. 22:26
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* ScorpKing needs to reboot..22:36
* ScorpKing is back..22:59
ademhello22:59
ademi have a question, does port ubuntu on a pocket pc, like the htc polaris23:00
ademanyone?23:00
GrueMasterApparently the FAQ doesn't cover this.  Or, you missed the link at the top of the room.  In short, no.23:07
persiaadem: Not currently.  There largest issue currently is CPU support: Ubuntu Mobile is only for i386 devices at this point.23:07
ScorpKinghow can i make the image-creator download the packages from my local repo instead of the internet?23:19
ScorpKingnvm. found it in /usr/share/pdk/default_config/defaults.cfg23:21

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