[05:55] <[reed]> asac: ping
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: im here for a bit reading emails
[08:01] <gnomefreak> asac: from what im reading person called you a genius :(
[09:06] <gnomefreak> fta: i found the issue on why i cant install enigmail its being caused by the addons dialog isnt working its closing as you try to add any addon (this is with tb3) mostlikely upstream fix not so much ours.
[09:16] <gnomefreak> can we please stop firefox from taking over focus and if the bug im remembering was to make it take focus i want to find the person that asked for it, its pissing me off during email work
[09:42]  * gnomefreak really needs to figure out how to add enigmail to tb3 without the install options not working. be back in a little hwile
[11:00] <RzR> hi
[11:00]  * RzR started to collect bugs about "bad dark themes" support on UI : http://rzr.online.fr/q/dark 
[11:01] <RzR> have you some trackers url to suggest ?
[12:16] <asac> hi
[12:16] <asac> [reed]: pong
[12:17] <RzR> hi asac got my mail ?
[12:17] <asac> yeah ... but i don't read mail today (public holiday) ... i just screened the subjects if there is something super urgent
[12:17] <asac> RzR: ^^
[12:17] <RzR> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4851464#post4851464
[12:17] <RzR> yea 1st may rulez
[12:17] <RzR> god bless america workers
[12:18] <RzR> in my email i wrote about dark themes support , that's something I just started before going to vacations :)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: do you remember a flash bug on not being able to watch cnn.com and another site? i remember the bug just not the name but bug # 225166 would be a dup and since everytime i add likely-dup tag it gets removed
[12:18] <RzR> so, there are effort to be done on mozilla for that
[12:19] <gnomefreak> holiday? i wish it was here
[12:20] <gnomefreak> is it "work to damn hard" holiday :)
[12:20] <asac> gnomefreak: right :) its the "workers day"
[12:20] <asac> unfortunately it falls together with another christian one
[12:20] <asac> this year
[12:21] <asac> so they robbed us one day
[12:22] <gnomefreak> take them all off and if day inbetween take that off too, you will end up with a 5 day weekend :)
[12:22] <asac> yeah ... i should be more proactive planning my holidays
[12:22] <asac> tomorrow i have to work ... stupid thing indeed
[12:22] <asac> but then work is not really something i try to avoid as you might guess ;)
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: i don't remember a flash bug
[12:24] <asac> actually the new idea is to create a super bug that reads "various flash non-free related bugs"
[12:24] <asac> and one "various flash non-free related crashers"
[12:24] <asac> and merge everything into that
[12:24] <asac> (until we can deal with them its best to collapse all imo)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> has Jazzva started that yet? i thought he did but i remember talking aobu tit
[12:26] <gnomefreak> about it :(
[12:27] <asac> i don't think he did
[12:27] <asac> he tagged the bugs for now
[12:27] <asac> until we have those master bugs setupo
[12:27] <gnomefreak> what tag do you remember?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> that make it easier to find
[12:27] <asac> RzR: whats the problem with firefox? is the problem still there with ffox 3?
[12:28] <Jazzva> i think I used flash, but there's not too many for now
[12:28] <gnomefreak> wait if your off on holiday that means mvo will be too damn i needed to talk to him
[12:28] <Jazzva> I'll be more active on that in the next few hours, until I go outside...
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: i just need tha cnn.com bug we tried to reproduce the other day maybe friday
[12:29] <Jazzva> I remember it ... let me try to find it
[12:29]  * gnomefreak gonna run through the "new" bugs today 
[12:29] <gnomefreak> juthanks
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: thanks even
[12:29] <Jazzva> No problem :)...
[12:30] <gnomefreak> asac: is iceape built by seamnkey now?
[12:30] <RzR> asac: FF3 is a big improvement on this ,,, but not perfect i'll reportbug
[12:30] <asac> btw, i just sniffed some conversation in -meeting yesterday that QA team plans to assign a more dedicated QA lead for FF .... hopefully also taking the lead on bugs. lets press thumbs ;)
[12:30] <gnomefreak> asac: not sure thats all that great
[12:31] <asac> why? finally having someone to push packages for thorough testing woudl be great
[12:31] <Jazzva> agreed
[12:31] <gnomefreak> someone has been closing bugs just becasue lack of info extracted from coredump on flash and alike bugs without trying to reproduce or asking for a backtrace
[12:32] <asac> gnomefreak: that were my instructions. i started with that procedure
[12:32] <gnomefreak> oh i thought you meant taking lean in bugs
[12:32] <gnomefreak> asac: oh ok
[12:32] <asac> yaeh bugs too
[12:32] <asac> gnomefreak: point about these crashers is that if they lack a backtrace its easier to submit a new one
[12:32] <Jazzva> btw, RzR, gnomefreak, and the rest of you who would like to participate, cast your votes for Mozilla Extensions logo on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Logo ... so we can get done with that ;)...
[12:32] <gnomefreak> but they need to be told to get a backtrace
[12:32] <Jazzva> thanks :)
[12:33] <asac> by double clicking .... compared to asking for .crash ... waiting ... waiting ... doing retrace manually and so on
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: page isnt loading
[12:33] <gnomefreak> that may be me
[12:33] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Yep... loading here... give it some time :)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> i got it
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ok voted
[12:35] <Jazzva> Thanks :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> np
[12:35] <asac> Jazzva: maybe send a mail to the other extension team members?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> the other 2 have great taste
[12:35] <Jazzva> asac: Will do...
[12:35] <gnomefreak> its not reloading
[12:36] <asac> Jazzva: your vote isn't there yet :)
[12:36] <Jazzva> Can't decide between proposal 1 orange and blue...
[12:36] <gnomefreak> orange :)
[12:36] <asac> imo, orange has a better contrast on small size
[12:36] <Jazzva> I like blue more, but it looks more KDE-ish... and I don't like KDE that much.
[12:36] <gnomefreak> yep
[12:36] <asac> which is why i preferred that one over the blue
[12:37] <gnomefreak> wiki dieing
[12:37] <Jazzva> And that too... plus orange has more ubuntu-meaning :)
[12:37] <asac> and the blue one reminds me of this ugly icon we had for firefox in the past :)
[12:37] <asac> dejavu
[12:37] <Jazzva> heh :)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> stop editing while i am :(
[12:37] <asac> and after all the earth should be a warm place to be :) ... blue looks cold and icy
[12:38] <Jazzva> I'm not editing wiki...
[12:38]  * RzR voted 
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok his save saved mine :)
[12:38] <Jazzva> Thanks all :)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> RzR: it might help if you didnt vote for all of them
[12:39] <gnomefreak> oh you did it in scaling form liked 1 no so liked last
[12:39] <RzR> gnomefreak: do you know about condorcet vote ?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> no atleast not that name
[12:40] <asac> thats how debian votes :)
[12:40] <RzR> yea
[12:41] <gnomefreak> 1 = like 10 = liked least of all?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> or 1swt choice - 10th choice
[12:44] <RzR> most liked first
[12:44] <RzR> if curious about votes check this project http://demexp.org
[12:48] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: the extension team want to use the mozillateam mailing list or a different list?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> de archive works great staill
[12:48] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Dunno... I'm fine with the first option, since both lists wouldn't have too much traffic...
[12:49] <asac> yeah ... we can use the same list i guess
[12:49] <gnomefreak> ok that sounds good
[12:49] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 210155 im marking fix released for iceape since seamonkey makes the transitional packages
[12:50] <gnomefreak> oh wait damn it needs to be built for Gutsy
[12:50] <gnomefreak> i thought it was just hardy waiting
[12:50] <asac> reboot
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !info iceape gutsy
[12:53] <gnomefreak> yes it does
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !info iceape-browser gutsy
[12:53] <gnomefreak> it used to
[12:54] <gnomefreak> info firefox
[12:54] <gnomefreak> !info firefox
[12:54] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=iceape
[12:54] <gnomefreak> !info firefox gutsy
[12:54] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: thank you
[12:54] <Jazzva> no prob...
[12:54] <gnomefreak> thats gonna suck
[12:58] <asac> @now
[12:59] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^ is it planned to add that feature to the new bot?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> asac: i hope so
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i will ask when they get back seems -ops has gone quiet
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i need to find out whos running it
[12:59] <gnomefreak> !editors
[12:59] <gnomefreak> no
[12:59] <gnomefreak> @editors
[13:00] <gnomefreak> ubottu: thanks
[13:00] <gnomefreak> ubottu: thank you
[13:00] <gnomefreak> screw you stupid
[13:00] <Jazzva> lol
[13:00] <gnomefreak> !botsnack you bitch
[13:00] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[13:01]  * gnomefreak gonna hurt jussi01
[13:01] <gnomefreak> @now berlin
[13:01] <gnomefreak> !now berlin
[13:02] <Jazzva> Isn't it time?
[13:02] <Jazzva> @time
[13:04] <gnomefreak> im talking to someone about it
[13:04] <gnomefreak> but they kept @ping
[13:04] <gnomefreak> @ping
[13:05] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: sorry, can't find the bug report now... and it seems i didn't subscribe to it, so it browsing through bug mail wasn't useful. Off to lunch now...
[13:06] <gnomefreak> i went through over 300 and didnt see it either
[13:06] <Jazzva> I will try to search through launchpad after lunch...
[13:07] <gnomefreak> me to but im gonna try to stay on the status new bugs
[13:08] <gnomefreak> brb smoke and meds
[13:36] <fta> hi
[13:36] <asac> hey
[13:36] <Jazzva> hello
[13:36] <Jazzva> good day
[13:37] <Jazzva> (sorry ... fibonacci sequence)
[13:37] <gnomefreak> this better work this time
[13:37] <gnomefreak> bbl while chroot builds
[13:44] <fta> for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4851464#post4851464  the songbird guys did some patches for xul
[13:45] <asac> thats the dark theme post not songbird?
[13:45] <asac> ah:) you say they did patches to improve darktheme
[13:45] <asac> ok
[13:46] <fta> yes
[13:46] <fta> songbird is dark by default
[13:48] <asac> so whats the problem with darktheme?
[13:48] <asac> and why is it a firefox/xul problem and not a problem of the theme?
[13:50] <fta> i think some items are not 'themable"
[13:51] <fta> such as text selections in forms
[13:51] <fta> but the way songbird did it is too radical
[13:56] <fta> asac, asac_: disconnected ?
[13:59] <asac_> yeah
[13:59] <asac_> reconnected
 and why is it a firefox/xul problem and not a problem of the theme?
 i think some items are not 'themable"
 such as text selections in forms
 but the way songbird did it is too radical
[13:59] <asac_> ah ok
[14:00] <asac_> what did they do?
[14:00] <asac_> are those patches available in a distinct fashion?
[14:00] <fta> bug 94494
[14:00] <fta> see comment 9
[14:02] <asac_> they should certainly send them upstream (like you said)
[14:02] <asac_> either ffox 4 ... or even 3.1 if that is done
[14:07] <fta> asac_, i've edited https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid
[14:09] <asac_> good
[14:09] <asac_> we really need some kind of roadmap for tbird 3 and seamonkey 2 i guess to decide what to do
[14:10] <Jazzva> "This bug report was marked for expiration 55 days ago." is it ok to just close bugs with this message? Mark as Invalid, and post a comment to reopen if blabla...
[14:11] <asac_> Jazzva: well ... every incomplete bug gets that message
[14:11] <asac_> i think 60 days is too long for us, but just waiting 5 days might not be fair either
[14:12] <Jazzva> asac_: Well, first message is "This bug will expire in XX days", after XX (60, I think) it says "...was marked for expiration"
[14:12] <asac_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7377002.stm
[14:12] <Jazzva> asac_: So, in case of this bug, 115 days passed since marking as Incomplete.
[14:12] <asac_> then its definitly worth closing
[14:13] <Jazzva> asac_: There is also another one, where last (your) comment was in december. So far, 60 days + marked for exp 89 days ago.
[14:13] <Jazzva> Cool...
[14:14] <Jazzva> that article is scary... and true, I suppose..
[14:15] <asac_> Jazzva: bugs were reopened once ... those  have this funny expiration date
[14:15] <asac_> those can be closed if you find that there is still no info
[14:16] <Jazzva> Ok
[14:27] <Wulfie> gnomefreak: ping
[14:27] <Wulfie> gnomefreak: so I am still having issues with sunbird - I can connect to the server, its just not showing me any appointments
[14:29] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: im at /breakfast/lunch mid morning i will be back later try other ones to see if they work example: fridge.ubuntu.com and set it up as a remote server/connection whatever its called in the menu
[14:30] <Wulfie> kk
[14:30]  * Jazzva curses flash.
[14:33] <Jazzva> The clash between skype and the rest of audio-reproducing apps was in pulseaudio?
[14:34] <Jazzva> Or is it a bug in Skype?
[14:34] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: ive seen a bug like that
[14:35] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: I'm looking at it now. And I can confirm it... I'm just sure it's not a bug in firefox/flash
[14:35] <Jazzva> bug 190172
[14:35] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: what happens when you click reload. o
[14:35] <gnomefreak> i dont use skype or i would help
[14:36] <Jazzva> thanks :)
[14:36] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: did you file a bug on this?
[14:36] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: i have 2 calendars and they work great
[14:36] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: thats a dup thats not the one i remember
[14:37] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Ok, will try to find orig
[14:37] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: save it you will run across the other one if you are doing flash pulseaudio task is open on it as well
[14:37] <Jazzva> just to finish tagging flash bugs :)
[14:38] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: tag = falsh?
[14:38] <gnomefreak> flash even
[14:38] <Jazzva> right
[14:38] <gnomefreak> ok let me know when your done or done for time being if im here ill look for it
[14:39] <gnomefreak> hit its a flash issue not a ff one
[14:39] <gnomefreak> brb
[14:40] <Wulfie> gnomefreak: so far I have not because I want to see if its a setup issue on my side
[14:45] <gnomefreak> Wulfie: ok give me link to the calendar ill try it here
[14:45] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: you feel like crashing X for a bug (i cant reproduce it)
[14:45] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Ah, ok.
[14:45] <Wulfie> gnomefreak: I can't its my works internal calendar - no access from the outside
[14:45] <Jazzva> In 5 minutes :)
[14:45] <gnomefreak> ok let me find bug
[14:46] <Wulfie> gnomefreak: it's okay - I'll get our IT team to figure it out for me :)
[14:51] <gnomefreak> asac_: anychance we can get ff3 to not take focus?
[14:52] <fta> http://www.osnews.com/story/19703
[14:54] <gnomefreak> ok im going to see if i can crash this this morning i couldnt
[14:54] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: bug#?
[14:54] <gnomefreak> bug 224966
[14:54] <Jazzva> thanks
[14:54] <fta> mozilla bug 428074
[14:55] <gnomefreak> still opened fine
[14:55] <gnomefreak> wtf its not firefox at all
[14:55] <fta> mozilla bug 418479
[14:56] <fta> mozilla bug 431190
[14:59] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: do you have compiz enabled?
[14:59] <Jazzva> yes
[14:59] <gnomefreak> good are you crashing yet?
[14:59] <gnomefreak> lol  you wouldnt be here if you werte
[14:59] <gnomefreak> were
[14:59] <Jazzva> yep :)
[15:00] <Jazzva> But I don't have nvidia card... i have ati. That might be the problem too
[15:00] <gnomefreak> X died and reported crash against everything else is what im thinking and nothing has yet changed my mind
[15:00] <gnomefreak> i have nvidia
[15:00] <gnomefreak> ok ill enable it :(
[15:01] <gnomefreak> maybe ill be back or ill be fixing it
[15:02] <Jazzva> Well, I scrolled all the way down, no crash so far
[15:03] <gnomefreak> shit i cant even enable it without it freezing
[15:03] <gnomefreak> it just told me i cant enable it
[15:03] <Jazzva> huh, why?
[15:03] <gnomefreak> let me reboot and try to turn it on maybe memory due to building packages
[15:04] <Jazzva> ok
[15:17] <fta> http://www.packagekit.org/pk-screenshots.html
[15:17] <gnomefreak> i cant crash it with compiz enabled normal or extra and ofcourse not none. I scrolled with mouse with the arrow and taking the bar and slliding it down i did down adn up for each
[15:18] <Jazzva> fta: We're moving to that or...?
[15:18] <fta> no, well, i don't know
[15:19] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Well, maybe we should leave it open for a while, and see if there will be any more confirmations, information or something...
[15:19] <Jazzva> fta: Looks good :)
[15:20] <Jazzva> fta: Except for the last screenshot - automatic updates ... :)
[15:21] <Jazzva> Oh, packagekit is in archive... Cool.
[15:24] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: can you comment on the bug on the test/parameters and out come i am itching to close this bug since nothing in logs not errors that they gave say firefox it looks like gdm is causing X to crash IMHO. asac_ fta when you get time can you please look at bug 224966 and let me know wha tyou think or atleast let bug know what you think
[15:25] <gnomefreak> i added my testing parameters and little about my set up and no matter what i do i cant get it to crash at all
[15:27] <gnomefreak> fta: where are those screenshots from?
[15:27] <gnomefreak> ive never seen them in <=Hardy
[15:27] <fta> http://www.packagekit.org/
[15:28] <fta> i guess it's from fedora 9
[15:28] <gnomefreak> are you thinking of adding it to Ubuntu in some way?
[15:28] <gnomefreak> it looks cool
[15:28] <fta> it's already there
[15:28] <fta> not installed by default
[15:29] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:30] <fta> Jazzva, http://alex.polvi.net/2008/04/30/state-of-the-add-ons-report-april-30th/
[15:30] <gnomefreak> im installing it to play with it
[15:31] <gnomefreak> i dont get it we have those for ff3 here
[15:31] <fta> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/firefox-30-beta-in-ubuntu-hardy-heron-804-other-cribs.html
[15:32] <gnomefreak> maybe just firebug but still
[15:33] <Jazzva> fta: so, we have 2 of those 10 :)... heh
[15:33] <Jazzva> 3...
[15:33] <jetsaredim> yay del.icio.us extension for ff3
[15:34] <koro> is there a way to specify a given window position and size if it doesn't admit --geometry option?
[15:34] <koro> oh wrong window
[15:36]  * gnomefreak doesnt know bret but he makes great points
[15:48] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Forgot to say, most of the flash reports for firefox task are tagged as flash
[15:49] <Jazzva> Still have to see for firefox-3.0
[16:46] <Re_in_stallo> hi all, I have some questions about the logo contest for mozilla extensions team...
[16:46] <Jazzva> Re_in_stallo: Go ahead...
[16:46] <Re_in_stallo> ok... I have some proposals to submit, if it is still possible...
[16:47] <Jazzva> Re_in_stallo: That's ok. BTW, how did you hear about this? I don't remember it was really promoted :).
[16:48] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: Volans told me about the "contest"...
[16:48] <Jazzva> Oh :)... Cool.
[16:49] <Jazzva> Just post your submission on the wiki page...
[16:49] <Jazzva> And thanks :).
[16:49] <Volans> Jazzva: is my friend author of the svg globe ;)
[16:49] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: another question... which open license is better?
[16:50] <Jazzva> Anyone that allows free redistribution...
[16:50] <Jazzva> (for this purpose)
[16:51] <Jazzva> and modification, if you're planning to reuse someone else's work and modify it...
[16:52] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: ok... these proposals are my own work, so I can choose "freely" the license...
[16:52] <Jazzva> Ok, go ahead and pick on... I suppose GPL or some of CC licenses would be a good choice.
[16:53] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: ok... I will inserting the proposals on the wiki page in a few minutes...
[16:54] <Jazzva> Maybe GPL would be a better choice, I found something which says that GPL and CC are not compatible (you can't combine GPL and CC licensed works)
[16:54] <Jazzva> But then again, I'm not an expert :)
[16:54] <Volans> yes Jazzva you are right if in future this logo have to be included in a deb package I think GPL is better also if is not a good license in general for artwork
[16:55] <Volans> I had these problems for my extensions icons...
[16:56] <Re_in_stallo> Volans Jazzva: ok... GPL is good...
[16:59] <Jazzva> asac_: Same point as that in bbc article - http://www.xkcd.com/237/
[17:00] <Volans> LOL
[17:12] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: I have inserted the logos...
[17:12] <Jazzva> Thanks for your work :)
[17:13] <Jazzva> Proposal 8 is interesting :)...
[17:13] <Re_in_stallo> :)
[17:15] <Jazzva> Ok, I'll send an e-mail later tonight to the team members to put on final votes and then we'll get the final logo tomorrow, or the day after :).
[17:17] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: if you have some suggestion about the proposals, we can modify, edit and/or merge the proposals...
[17:17] <Volans> Jazzva: last thing, if you want we can merge proposals on demand, the ongly GFDL element is my wikimedia puzzle, then if substituting this with the Re_in_stallo one or use my colors in Re_in_stallo proposals can be better feel free to ask and all will be GPL
[17:19] <Jazzva> Dunno... Maybe you could try with something like Volans proposal1 orange colors on some of your proposals, just to see how that would look like. So far, more people liked those colors.
[17:19] <Jazzva> Just a suggestion...
[17:19] <Jazzva> :)
[17:20] <Re_in_stallo> Jazzva: ok, I will try...
[17:21] <Jazzva> Ok
[17:38] <Jazzva> Ok... I'm off for a few hours... See you later.
[17:52] <fta> asac_, http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-05/automated_seamonkey_testing
[17:56] <fta> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2005-04-24/
[18:01] <fta> http://dilbert.com/animation/comic/2008-04-23/
[20:23] <gnomefreak> he left
[20:38] <Lucas_Smithen> hey folks, I am using thunderbird on Ubuntu Hardy Heron, when I click to attach a file Thunderbird crashes
[20:38] <Lucas_Smithen> any thoughts?
[20:39] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: not off hand sorry. what extentions due you have what size is the attachment.
[20:39] <Lucas_Smithen> no extensions and its not clicking on the file its clicking the attach button
[20:39] <gnomefreak> asac_: i have a feeling bug 213086 is a dup of the CPU bug but just happens less often, im gonna mark it as such please unmark if its wrong.
[20:40] <Lucas_Smithen> weird
[20:40] <Lucas_Smithen> I started it in a terminal to see if there was any output and that seemed to work
[20:41] <Lucas_Smithen> hmm if I change the launcher to thunderbird rather than thunderbird %u it works
[20:45] <gnomefreak> Lucas_Smithen: it should be %u by default
[20:45] <gnomefreak> mine has always installed that way
[20:46] <Lucas_Smithen> yes it was there by default
[20:46] <Lucas_Smithen> but if I have it there it crashes
[20:46] <Lucas_Smithen> what does the %u do?
[20:48] <gnomefreak> dont know but it brings us closer to finding out ;) i just cant work on it right now i have my hands full, %u enable you to open up a url by clicking on it not sure why that would cause a crash
[20:48] <gnomefreak> fta: the gnome-lang packs that we are using for ff3 what is the name of them?
[20:49] <Lucas_Smithen> no worries
[20:49] <Lucas_Smithen> thanks
[20:58] <gnomefreak> is anyone here that is working on mozilla extensions atm?
[21:20] <gnomefreak> asac_: does gnash bring in any shockwave libs like flash does? see bug 225143 when you get time
[21:40] <gnomefreak> oh well so much for bug work :9 i did what i had in email the 300 or so of them and now im wore the hell out
[21:40] <gnomefreak> :(
[22:12] <Jazzva> Evening...
[22:13] <gnomefreak> shoot me
[22:13]  * Jazzva shoots
[22:13] <Jazzva> :)
[22:13] <gnomefreak> thanks :)
[22:13] <gnomefreak> i hate people and what they think they know about filing bugs :(
[22:13] <Jazzva> No problem ;). Just a LP question... Are all the members of a team automatically subscribed to that list's mailing list?
[22:14] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Nobody's perfect...
[22:14] <gnomefreak> i dont think so
[22:14] <gnomefreak> although its pretty much dead
[22:14] <Jazzva> i would need it to send mail about logo voting.
[22:15] <gnomefreak> no i think i left it open because of a few people
[22:15] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: you are gonna have to sign up but let me know when you do ill put you on first priority
[22:15] <Volans> Jazzva, gnomefreak but the extensions team have a ML?
[22:15] <gnomefreak> Volans: no same list
[22:15] <gnomefreak> its the mozillateam list
[22:15] <Volans> same as mozilla-team?
[22:15] <Volans> ok
[22:15] <gnomefreak> yep
[22:16] <Jazzva> Volans: Right. I'm just wondering if team members are auto-subscribed to the list...
[22:16] <Volans> it's simple
[22:16] <gnomefreak> nope couldnt do that people complained
[22:16] <Volans> I have received no mail from LP ML
[22:16] <Volans> then  I'm not subscribed on the mozilla-team ML
[22:16] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Yeah, saw it in the configurations...
[22:16] <Volans> note that I'm member only of the extensions team...
[22:17] <Volans> is the extension team member of the mozillateam?
[22:17] <Jazzva> Ok, I'll send a mail to the addresses I have + to the mt list
[22:17] <gnomefreak> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mozillateam
[22:17] <Volans> gnomefreak: I have to sign to that ML?
[22:17] <gnomefreak> Volans: yes same general group different tasks
[22:18] <gnomefreak> Volans: have to no but if you want to get info from it yes, its very low traffic atm like 2 a year type low
[22:19] <Volans> ok
[22:19] <gnomefreak> we use it mainly for updates that comunnity should know or if someone has a problem like userA needs to know how to package something but we encourge people to get us in here since we are always here
[22:19] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: So, it's ok if I use it for logo voting? :)
[22:19] <gnomefreak> someone most of time anyway
[22:19] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: hell yes
[22:20] <Jazzva> Cool :)
[22:20] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: me asac and you i thought decided on that friday ish but im all screwed up today
[22:20] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Signed up...
[22:20] <gnomefreak> ok chjecking email
[22:20] <Jazzva> received the confirmation
[22:20] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: Huh? Decided what?
[22:20] <gnomefreak> stupid ass i was just there :(
[22:21] <gnomefreak> to use the Ml for both teams
[22:21] <Jazzva> Oh, right... yeah :)
[22:21] <gnomefreak> ha just got it
[22:22] <gnomefreak> your done i didnt need to add you
[22:22] <gnomefreak> i forgot i left this open to subscribe
[22:22] <gnomefreak> jazzva@gmail.com has been successfully subscribed to
[22:22] <gnomefreak> Ubuntu-mozillateam.
[22:22] <Jazzva> right :)
[22:22] <gnomefreak> hey i got you 2 here
[22:23] <gnomefreak> dont get pissed but please please find a plugin that works for tb in linux to grab hotmail :(
[22:23]  * gnomefreak runs like hell
[22:23] <gnomefreak> the one i installed and fucked with was for windows i found out 3 hours after installing it
[22:23] <Jazzva> Why would I get pissed? :)
[22:23] <rzr> gnomefreak: there are some listed at http://rzr.online.fr/q/webmail
[22:23] <Jazzva> I'll try
[22:24] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: more work
[22:24] <Volans> I'm also signed now
[22:24] <gnomefreak> rzr: for linux?
[22:24] <gnomefreak> sweet
[22:24] <rzr> gotmail is one of them
[22:24] <rzr> gotlive now
[22:25] <rzr> i used it once
[22:25] <rzr> TB provide some stuff too
[22:25] <gnomefreak> anyother one? like the one i grabbed i needed 2 packages
[22:25] <rzr> #
[22:25] <rzr> #
[22:25] <rzr> http://webmail.mozdev.org
[22:26] <gnomefreak> this isnt built for tb3 right?
[22:27] <gnomefreak> that is wher ei was last night
[22:27] <gnomefreak> http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html tells you you need the one you built plus one of the other ones
[22:28] <gnomefreak> and this is where it failed badly
[22:28] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: But, the TB3a1 isn't out yet :)... I suppose you can try with the extensions for TB2, just bump the maxVersion in install.rdf
[22:28] <Jazzva> (I think TB3a1 isn't out yet)
[22:28] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: its not
[22:29] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: i dont know anything about packaging extensions
[22:29] <Jazzva> Ok, I'll give it a try
[22:29] <Jazzva> Or, if you wanna try, it's quite easy :)
[22:29] <rzr> gnomefreak: asac wrote a tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[22:29] <gnomefreak> thanks
[22:29] <Jazzva> Just unpack the xpi file, look for install.rdf, edit the maxVersion to be something like 3.0. for Thunderbird, and then zip it all back to xpi
[22:32] <gnomefreak> xpi isnt done with gzip right?
[22:32] <fta> zip
[22:32] <fta> unzip, edit install.rdf, zip it back
[22:33] <Jazzva> ok, sent the mail to ubuntu-mozillateam and the mails of QA contacts...
[22:33] <Jazzva> fta, there are some new proposals for mozilla extensions logo, if you would like to look at them again :)
[22:33] <Jazzva> asac: ^
[22:34] <Volans> Jazzva: re_in_stallo have published the last ones just after your logout before ;)
[22:34] <Jazzva> Saw them... I like his Proposal 11 :). I think I'll vote for it.
[22:34] <fta> if think the puzzle has to remain green
[22:35] <gnomefreak> thanks ill try it once i get it working on 2.0
[22:35] <Jazzva> I think it is more ubuntu-ized with this color, while not changing the puzzle shape :)...
[22:35] <Jazzva> but it's prop11, prop2 orange, and prop 4 (the puzzle only)
[22:35] <Jazzva> for me
[22:37] <Volans> Jazzva: I have to vote also?
[22:38] <Volans> /have to/can/
[22:38] <Jazzva> You can, don't have to :)
[22:40] <gnomefreak> rzr: do i need to get the msn one from http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html or can i get it up and running without it?
[22:40]  * gnomefreak already voted :)
[22:40] <Jazzva> :)
[22:42] <rzr> gnomefreak: i am not paid by M$ to do  support :)
[22:42] <rzr> gnomefreak: no seriously i dont know i dont use their products
[22:43] <rzr> gnomefreak: gotmail should work no ?
[22:45] <gnomefreak> you didnt have got mail you have webmailnotifier
[22:46] <fta> Jazzva, we should assign letters, prop A1, A2, ... B1, B2... otherwise it's confusing
[22:47] <Jazzva> A1 = Volans, B1 = Re.in.stallo?
[22:47] <fta> yes
[22:47] <Jazzva> Hmm, ok... Sounds good
[22:47] <Jazzva> I'll put it on the page now
[22:49] <rzr> please rename dups 1 2 3
[22:50] <rzr> well i wont vote anymore
[22:50] <rzr> i am going offline for some days
[22:50] <rzr> later
[22:50] <Jazzva> Ok... see you
[22:51] <Jazzva> rzr, your vote 4... it's volans, or re.in.stallo?
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[22:51] <rzr> volans
[22:51] <gnomefreak> its already there maybe bump it up a bit?
[22:52] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: You can try...
[22:52] <fta> hm, no 3.0a1pre is correct
[22:52] <Volans> fta: is not 3.0pre ???
[22:52] <Jazzva> brb, phone
[22:53] <Volans> a1pre is for the old alpha1...
[22:53] <fta> gnomefreak, it's for tb3, not ff3 right ?
[22:53] <gnomefreak> right
[22:53] <Volans> ah sorry, I think was FF :)
[22:53] <Volans> gnomefreak: use this page as reference https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pages/appversions
[22:54] <gnomefreak> grrrr zip is gonna piss me off
[22:54] <gnomefreak> ty Volans
[22:54] <Volans> fta: the latest is 3.0a1
[22:54] <Volans> for TB
[22:54] <gnomefreak> we still have pre
[22:54] <fta> but it's not out yet
[22:55] <gnomefreak> atleast i do
[22:55] <gnomefreak> zip files to zip file.xpi   is that right?
[22:55] <gnomefreak> oh wait
[22:56] <gnomefreak> zip warning: name not matched: webmail-1-3-2.xpi
[22:56] <gnomefreak> what the hell is that
[22:56] <fta> zip -r ../webmail-1-3-2.xpi .
[22:56] <Volans> zip -r name.xpi ./
[22:56] <gnomefreak> zip -r files to add to xpi than .xpi?
[22:57] <gnomefreak> or other way around
[22:57] <fta> zip -r foo.xpi your_files
[22:57] <gnomefreak> ok
[22:57] <fta> zip -r dst sources
[22:57] <Volans> gnomefreak: you want to exclude some files in the dir?
[22:58] <gnomefreak> i do?
[22:58] <Volans> usually no, but depends if you have expanded some archive
[22:58] <Volans> like jars or you have and old xpi in the same folder
[22:59] <gnomefreak> i renamed the old one
[22:59] <Volans> for my extension I have a little script that make all the work and put out the xpi with dynamic name according to version
[22:59] <gnomefreak> i think i got it just moved it to test and unziped the new copy and it has everything
[23:00] <Volans> if you want you can also make the zip from gui and after rename it, it's the sam
[23:00] <Volans> /sam/same/
[23:01] <gnomefreak> cant install it on 3.0 its due to the addons thing is broken
[23:01] <gnomefreak> fta: ^^^
[23:02] <Volans> gnomefreak: in the help menu, about TB, paste here what version have you, precisely
[23:03] <gnomefreak> version 3.0a1pre (2008042819
[23:03] <gnomefreak> )
[23:04] <Volans> then <em:maxVersion>3.0a1pre</em:maxVersion> is correct
[23:04] <Volans> are you trying to install an extension that is not already compatible with TB3?
[23:04] <Jazzva> Maybe the extension itself is broken with TB3
[23:04] <gnomefreak> i changed it to 3.0 but its not hte xpi that is broken its thunderbirds adddon dialog
[23:04] <Volans> what it says?
[23:05] <gnomefreak> cant add any extension to tb3
[23:05] <gnomefreak> Volans: nothing it just fails thats why enigmail failed for me
[23:05] <gnomefreak> fta: can you confirm that on ours?
[23:07] <gnomefreak> maybe i should see if upstream has this issue but i dont think they do since they were able to install enigmail just not use it
[23:09] <gnomefreak> let see if that helps my pastebinit app
[23:12] <fta> Error: Components.classes['@mozilla.org/plugin/host;1'] is undefined
[23:12] <fta> Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/extensions/extensions.js
[23:12] <fta> Line: 844
[23:17] <gnomefreak> thats gotta be done upstream
[23:18] <gnomefreak> assuming its calling the @mozilla.org class and that is where failure is
[23:18]  * gnomefreak stillhates java
[23:20] <gnomefreak> ok omg this app is cool
[23:20] <gnomefreak> no gui needed no pasting needed
[23:20] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Development:~$ pastebinit -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:20] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.com/f624cd9bc
[23:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[23:27]  * gnomefreak waits for bug on tb 2.0.0.14 needs packaging (i got email like 20 seconds ago
[23:32] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm wonder why i have to sign in
[23:41] <fta> asac, any idea why this fails in tb3: http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/extensions.js#882 ?
[23:45] <gnomefreak> failure line on this is 850 atleast somewhere in that function. but i thought you had to import classes not add them to code
[23:45] <gnomefreak> oh i see it
[23:46] <gnomefreak> is this sm 2?