[00:00] <Narcboy> ok.. I never got that to work, and I was using a streamzap prior to receiving the pvr350
[00:00] <Narcboy> i'm looking at commandir right now and it generated a chchange.sh dish5 $1 for me
[00:07] <doulouns> hi!
[00:08] <doulouns> I'm sorry but I'd need help with Mythtv
[00:09] <doulouns> I'm trying to use it with my joypad and when I push a button the screen turns black for two seconds and is normal 2 second later, it makes the use of this pad very uncomfortable...
[00:11] <doulouns> is there anybody here?
[00:11] <doulouns> it seems not....
[01:17] <TelnetManta> Can anyone help me figure out why mythbuntu is giving me only a solid blue screen when watching tv but I see a picture under recordings?
[01:23] <tgm4883_laptop> laga!
[01:24] <immensewok> restart X
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> stopping GDM     [OK]
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> starting GDM         [FAIL]
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> geez immensewok what button did you push?
[01:25] <immensewok> ctrl+alt+del
[01:25] <tgm4883_laptop> you caused a netsplit.  I'm going to have to ask you to not do that while logged into IRC
[01:26] <TelnetManta> lol
[01:26] <immensewok> ?
[01:26] <TelnetManta> tgm4883_laptop: Did you see my question, I know you can help
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> nm
[01:26]  * tgm4883_laptop scrolls up
[01:26] <TelnetManta> new mythbuntu install, blue screen while watching tv?
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> solid blue screen?
[01:27] <TelnetManta> yeah
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> have you looked at your logs?
[01:27] <TelnetManta> but have video in recordings
[01:27] <TelnetManta> blushes... not yet
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> Troubleshooting FAQ
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> Step 1)  Look at logs
[01:27] <tgm4883_laptop> Step 2)  Make sure you did Step 1
[01:28] <tgm4883_laptop> Step 3)  If looking at the logs didn't help, then you didn't look at the right logs ;)
[01:28] <TelnetManta> lol
[01:29] <TelnetManta> ah " Unknown video codec.  Please go into the TV Settings,"
[01:29] <TelnetManta> duuuh
[01:30] <TelnetManta> but not that simple.
[01:30] <TelnetManta> i know the cable signal isnt mpeg4... and rtjpg isnt working.
[01:30] <tgm4883_laptop> what tuner?
[01:31] <TelnetManta> bt frame grabber
[01:31] <TelnetManta> wintv
[01:31] <TelnetManta> bt878
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:32] <tgm4883_laptop> and you are encoding it into what?
[01:33] <TelnetManta> set to btjpeg
[01:33] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm
[01:33] <tgm4883_laptop> interesting
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> I actually am not sure the issue.  I've never dealt with either btjpeg or rtjpeg
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> any other errors in the frontend?
[01:34] <tgm4883_laptop> seems like a codec issue though
[01:34] <TelnetManta> changed encoding to mpeg4
[01:34] <TelnetManta> now get error flushing buffer
[01:35] <tgm4883_laptop> system specs?
[01:35] <tgm4883_laptop> that makes sense, IIRC mpeg4 needs a beefy system to encode into mpeg4 in real time
[01:35] <TelnetManta> amd 6400 3ghz
[01:35] <TelnetManta> 1gb ram
[01:35] <TelnetManta> its encoding as I can see the recording afterwards
[01:37] <greggnj> evening.  i was wondering if anyone had any experience with concordace; the program used to program logitech harmony remotes
[02:44] <TelnetManta> anyone around? got a package quesiton
[02:44] <TelnetManta> question
[02:44] <TelnetManta> laga: ?
[02:45] <TelnetManta> superm1: ?
[02:49] <technoma1ogical> is anyone having a problem with LIRC in Mythbuntu 8.04 Final?
[02:49] <technoma1ogical> I'm having a similar problem to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/207991
[02:50] <technoma1ogical> but the suggested fix didn't work for me
[02:50] <Wy|laptop> yeah, my remote default configuration is crap :P
[02:50] <Wy|laptop> but no, lirc works here
[02:50] <Wy|laptop> amd64, though
[02:51] <technoma1ogical> 8.04?
[02:52] <Wy|laptop> yeah
[02:53] <technoma1ogical> fresh install or upgrade?
[02:53] <Wy|laptop> fresh
[02:53] <technoma1ogical> I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it
[02:53] <technoma1ogical> ok maybe not  :P
[02:53] <Wy|laptop> not sure .. I was tracking the 8.04 beta stuff until it shat itself :P
[02:53] <Wy|laptop> then I went for a full reinstall
[02:53] <Wy|laptop> though at this point I'm pondering making this mythbox into a MCE box
[02:54] <technoma1ogical> the modules seem to install correctly but starting lirc fails
[02:54] <technoma1ogical> I've been running BeyondTV on this box for about 3 years now
[02:55] <technoma1ogical> tired of windows issues, but everytime I try mythtv it's always "not quite there yet"
[02:59] <Wy|laptop> heh, sorta.
[02:59] <Wy|laptop> myth works okay for the most part
[02:59] <Wy|laptop> but :P to keep up with the devs I keep upgrading like an idiot
[02:59] <majoridiot> *ahem*
[02:59] <Wy|laptop> :P
[03:00] <majoridiot> not all idiots have upgraded at all
[03:00] <majoridiot> ;)
[03:00] <technoma1ogical> hehehe
[03:13] <lanuser> Hello
[03:14] <lanuser> I have a weird issue with my lirc blaster, when I send_once the STB doesn't receive the number, but if I do a send_start it receives many, any idea why send_once wouldn't work?  Some timing issue in lircd.conf?
[04:43] <confuzed> quick question... does anyone have a decent guide for installing 8.04 on a mac mini... is it pretty cut and dry for a frontend or a hdhomrun based backend system?
[05:07] <rhpot1991> superm1: I noticed something weird the other night, tried to play back a file that my 2nd backend was currently recording, and it was very unhappy, kept freezing.  I wonder if it has something to do with the wifi on that box or what, seems odd since the same box was recording and playing.  Box can definitely handle playback and recording of SD at the same time, as it used to be my master backend.
[05:07] <superm1> on 0.20, my machines were all a lot nicer about that stuff too
[05:07] <superm1> just higher requirements it semes
[05:08] <rhpot1991> hummmm, I suppose I can test it some time
[05:08] <rhpot1991> I think I did that with it as the master backend on 0.21 though
[07:05] <baalsgate> anyone know how to speed up the frontend menu ?
[07:06] <baalsgate> i wass using identical hardware running a fc6 setup and the menu was 500 times faster than it is now , problems with menu speed in ubuntu are all over google but cant find a solution
[07:07] <baalsgate> its in qt mode not gl
[08:41] <baalsgate> anyone know how to speed up the frontend menu ?
[09:51] <baalsgate> unkonwn font: bigtitle in textarea:  ldl ???????????????????????????/////
[10:29] <xukun> I just installed mythbuntu on existing ubuntu 8.04. but when I start mythtv fronted I get the message "No UPNP backends found"
[10:32] <xukun> hmm anybody
[10:32] <xukun> ?
[10:33] <baalsgate> sounds like the back end isnt running to me
[10:34] <baalsgate> UPNP is a router protocol for port forwarding I believe
[10:34] <xukun> baalsgate, I just installed I dont have backends yet. I ,m trying to configure it for first time now
[10:34] <laga> baalsgate: no.
[10:34] <laga> baalsgate: upnp can do that, but mythtv uses the av media stuff
[10:35] <laga> yeah, the backend needs to be running
[10:35] <baalsgate> laga ok right
[10:36] <xukun> how can I run the backend?
[10:36] <baalsgate> sudo /etc/init.d/myhtbackend start
[10:38] <xukun> baalsgate, I dont have that. there is no /etc/init.d/mythbacked
[10:38] <xukun> mythbackend
[10:39] <baalsgate>  how about /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend
[10:40] <xukun> no I don't have that either
[10:40] <baalsgate> xukun have you read the install guide ?
[10:40] <xukun> baalsgate, I did
[10:40] <baalsgate> xukun what have you actualy done ?
[10:41] <xukun> I flowed this howto: http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu
[10:45] <baalsgate> did you down load this http://www.mythbuntu.org/documentation/mythbuntu_8.04_installation.pdf
[10:45] <xukun> baalsgate, I think I see what I missed now. sorry for this all
[10:46] <baalsgate> noprob
[10:48] <hugolp> anyone has found a solution for the Nova-t-500 working randomly in 8.04?
[10:48] <xukun> baalsgate, I want to configure I system role which holds all my video so clients can connect and play the video.So I need to choose the Primary backend option from the mythbuntu control center yes?
[10:50] <baalsgate> you need a backend somewhere
[10:51] <baalsgate> the backend does all the work the frontend is just for a client only machine so for starter use the option for both
[10:52] <baalsgate> latter when you have the simple setup working then make a client only to connect to your working backend
[10:52] <xukun> both you mean: Primary backend and fronted?
[10:52] <baalsgate> yes good place to satar
[10:52] <baalsgate> start
[10:53] <xukun> thanks
[10:53] <baalsgate> once you have your setup working then start with another machine as a client <frontend>
[10:54] <xukun> ok please don,t go away
[10:54] <baalsgate> lol orrra i feel needed :)
[10:55] <baalsgate> I have issues with my frontend menu having heaps of lag in changing menus  anyone got any ideas about that  ?
[10:57] <baalsgate> its pissing me off i dont know if my remote is not working for like 5 seconds
[11:00] <The_Dr> How do you take screenshots in mythbuntu from he live disc
[11:01] <The_Dr> !screenshot
[11:02] <laga> use "import" from the imagemagick tools?
[11:04] <The_Dr> no imagemagik
[11:04] <laga> install it?
[11:05] <The_Dr> In live cd mode?
[11:05] <laga> yes?
[11:05] <The_Dr> nah bugger that, I only want screenshie for a booklet for school
[11:06] <xukun> baalsgate, maybe it has nothing to do with it. but does xvinfo command from console show your video card?
[11:06] <The_Dr> there is no gnome-screenshot either
[11:06] <The_Dr> or ksnapshot
[11:07] <laga> The_Dr: just use import?
[11:07] <laga> if you want screenshots, i don't see why you wouldn't install a tool to do that :)
[11:25] <hugolp> anyone knows a solution for the nova-t-500 under hardy?
[11:55] <famicom> does it work under linux to begin with
[11:58] <hugolp> famicom:  yes, its detected automatically in hardy but randomly fails to lock on channels and dmesg shows a lot of this [66067.351593] mt2060 I2C read failed
[11:59] <hugolp> in gutsy, feisty and edgy you had to recompile the dvb kernel and then it worked without a problem
[11:59] <laga> hugolp: did it work before in hardy?
[11:59] <laga> eg in an earlier kernel version
[12:00] <hugolp> laga:  I havent tried hardy release candidates, I installed final hardy only, but I have read in forums and launchpad that at the end they got it working. It seems the problem is a bug in the usb part of the kernel, and a patch existed to solve it, but it seems it wasnt applied to the final release
[12:00] <famicom> well speaking of which
[12:00] <famicom> when i recompile my kernel i cannot install fglrx
[12:01] <laga> hugolp: then take a look at the source code to find out iof the patch was applied
[12:03] <hugolp> laga:  I have never recompiled a kernel, I dont know even where to start looking
[12:04] <laga> hugolp: don't recompile, just look at the source to see if the changes from the patch are there
[12:11] <xukun> my backend is running now. how can I connect the client with it?
[12:13] <hugolp> xukun:  just launch the client
[12:37] <xukun> hugolp, sorry I was away. Ok will will start the client
[12:40] <xukun> hugolp, don't I need to configure the client to tell where the backend is for example?
[12:41] <hugolp> xukun:  open the client and the configuration page will appear
[12:54] <xukun> hugolp, I find the configuration option
[13:24] <xukun> hmm is there a way to test if the fronted is connecting to the backend?
[13:27] <hugolp> xukun:  try to play tv
[13:27] <hugolp> if it plays its connected
[13:27] <hugolp> if not its not
[13:28] <xukun> hugolp, I dont have a tv card. I only have movie's on the backend on my /home/xukun/films
[13:29] <hugolp> xukun:  then Im not sure if you need the backend...
[13:29] <xukun> and I want to play this movie's on my fronted
[13:29] <hugolp> I can watch the recorded movies even when the backend is not running
[13:29] <hugolp> xukun:  and whats stoping you?
[13:30] <xukun> well..
[13:31] <xukun> how can I play the movies on the backend which is different machine than the fronted  on my fronted machine?
[13:31] <hugolp> xukun:  if you just want to play movies you may want to look at elisa
[13:32] <hugolp> xukun:  I know mythtv streams the tv but Im not sure if mythvideo streams. Someone here could confirm this.
[13:32] <hugolp> xukun:  if it doesnt you have to share the video folder (using nfs or samba) so the front-end computer can access the files in the backend computer
[13:33] <xukun> now I,m really confused ..
[13:35] <xukun> hugolp, ok then I want to share the movie folders. Is there quick way to do this or do I have to read all about nfs firs?
[13:36] <hugolp> xukun:  no, there is a quick way ubuntuguide.org
[13:37] <hugolp> xukun:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#NFS_Server <- this works for hardy as well
[13:37] <xukun> hugolp, thanks a lot
[14:01] <hugolp> I though .21 had the feature that simultaneous recordings from channels in the same multiplexor only took one turner
[14:01] <DaveMorris> hugolp: its strange since I have the 500 working fine
[14:01] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  I am testing right now and I think I have found the solution
[14:01] <hugolp> its so stupid it makes me cry
[14:02] <DaveMorris> which is?
[14:03] <DaveMorris> hugolp: that feature is correct, you can tell a tunner how many channels you simultaneously want to record.
[14:04] <hugolp> I put this line in options : "options dvb_usb_dib0700 force_lna_activation=1" wich I copied from the mythtv wiki for the previous Ubuntu versions. But it seems now the line should be like this "options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1". I am not sure if that is the problem, I have been with the backend with some minutes and it has worked fine, but need to wait some hours to see if the problem ocurs again. If it doesnt I will post to launchpad.
[14:04] <laga> i dont think it's the problem. IIRC at least modprobe will convert underscores to hyphens (or was it the other way around?)
[14:05] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  where do I find the option for how many simultaneous channels I want to record?
[14:05] <hugolp> laga:  damm, I wanted to be optimistic...
[14:07] <hugolp> the option about how many simultaneous channels I want to record is in the backend configuration I am guessing?
[14:08] <DaveMorris> yeah
[14:08] <DaveMorris> mythtv-setup
[14:08] <DaveMorris> then capture cards --> your card --> recording options
[14:08] <hugolp> ok
[14:08] <DaveMorris> and edit the number in "max recordings"
[14:09] <hugolp> so the difference between _ and - wont change much? then I really dont know whats going on with the nova-t-500
[14:09] <laga> hugolp: i don't know. it may help, but i doubt it :)
[14:09] <laga> hugolp: feel free to prove me wrong
[14:11] <hugolp> laga:  the bug takes a while to appear, so tonight or tomorrow Ill check
[14:11] <DaveMorris> hugolp: which wiki did you follow?  Because all I did was download the firmware and put it in the correct place, then do the modprobe options
[14:11] <xukun> hugolp, you are life saver. thank you so much. Things are looks realy good. I can now play the movie on my fronted through the nfs mount point. I see all the movie in the remote pc. hte only thing left is: How can I see the covers of the movies and albums?
[14:11] <DaveMorris> I didn't manually build anything myself
[14:13] <hugolp> xukun:  :) I dont really remember how to get the covers, I did the first time but I got tired of doing it. I remember you could get them from imdb.com at configureation -> video something
[14:13] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  I dindnt download any drivers in Hardy. The card was detected automatically.
[14:13] <hugolp> I had to download drivers and recompile the dvb kernel part for edgy, feisty and gutsy, but not for hardy
[14:14] <xukun> hmm well that is ok my friend thanks a lot for all your help so far
[14:15]  * DaveMorris wonders why your having problems
[14:16] <DaveMorris> mine works fine with transmission from Crystal Place (30 miles) although when my signal booster had blown it didnt :(
[14:16] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  this is the wiki I had followed since feisty http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI and thats where I got the line for options.
[14:17] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  I know the problem its not in my installation, cause its exactly the same I had with feisty and gutsy and I didnt had not even one problem
[14:17] <DaveMorris> you using the remote on it
[14:17] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  no. Its just a server. It doesnt even have screen
[14:18] <DaveMorris> same config as me, although I did turn something off in mythtv-setup
[14:18] <DaveMorris> let me check what it was
[14:20] <DaveMorris> I set "use quick tuning" to Never
[14:21] <DaveMorris> in the video sources screen
[14:22] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  got to go for lunch now, but I will try that option on the server after. thanks
[14:23] <MythbuntuGuest42> I just installed 8.04 and know very little about linux.  I have all of my videos stored on a windows box and all I want to do is use MythTV to serve the videos.  How can I point the backend at the windows share?
[14:25] <jduggan> MythbuntuGuest42: share your drive and mount -t smbfs
[14:26] <jduggan> drive/folder
[14:46] <xukun> I can seem te select the items on dvd menu. Is there somekind of option I need to enable?
[14:47] <laga> are you using the internal mythtv playeR? do you get a menu when you hit "m"?
[14:47] <greggnj> Is there a HOWTO somewhere to get a remote control working in Myth?  For the love of god I cannot get my remote to work for me
[14:49] <xukun> laga, I think mythbuntu is uisng mplayer as default player. I get menu but I can not select the options either from the keyboard or the remote
[14:49] <laga> i dont know if mplayer supports DVD menus
[14:49] <laga> xukun: what menu do you get? a menu in the left upper corner?
[14:50] <xukun> laga, I get the normal dvd menu, eeh the one that you can choose things like chapters subs language..
[14:51] <xukun> greggnj, what brand of remote are you using
[14:58] <greggnj> xukun: Logitech Harmony 670.  I am able to load the Logitech software on a different PC.  Have a mac that i used, since I gave up trying to concordance to run on my linux laptop
[15:04] <greggnj> i have the remote set to control a windows media pc, and have selected the phillips mce remote in myth but nothing.
[15:05] <greggnj> i have checked dmesg and the drivers are being loaded for the ir receiver, lirc sees it without any issue
[15:08] <xukun> greggnj, sorry m8 I dont think I can help. And you realdy googled around didn't you?
[15:14] <greggnj> I've looked around yes.  Is there some testing I can do to see if the remote is even hitting the receiver and lirc?
[15:30] <TelnetManta> greggnj:
[15:30] <TelnetManta> greggnj: ping
[15:30] <TelnetManta> greggnj: set your harmony to control a hauppaug PVR150
[15:30] <TelnetManta> I use a Harmony688 on my myth box and it works perfectly
[15:38] <greggnj> I didn't see that option in the logitech software.
[15:38] <greggnj> in myth, what do you set your remote to?
[15:39] <TelnetManta> I didnt use the remote menu like in mythbuntu..
[15:39] <TelnetManta> its a custom lirc file
[15:41] <greggnj> ahh ok.  Do you happen to have a copy of the lirc file? or can i get it somewhere online
[15:42] <TelnetManta> just backing up my system for a reinstall
[15:42] <TelnetManta> let me see
[15:42] <greggnj> awesome
[15:42] <greggnj> thanks
[15:44] <TelnetManta> http://www.internetworkpro.org/pastebin/2390
[15:44] <TelnetManta> theres a paste of my file
[15:45] <greggnj> awesome thanks!  This works with the version of myth that is included in mythbutnu 8.04?
[15:47] <TelnetManta> dunno yet Im fixing to upgrade
[15:47] <TelnetManta> should though its just lirc
[15:47] <greggnj> yah true.  I suppose we'll find out.  What version were you running?
[15:47] <TelnetManta> i was on ubuntu 7.04 with a source install of myth
[15:48] <Seeker`> is there a way of stopping people quitting mythtv by repeatedly pressing esc?
[15:48] <TelnetManta> Seeker`: its configurable
[15:48] <Seeker`> ah, cool
[15:48] <hugolp> Seeker`:  my mythtv doesnt quit by repeadtedly presing esc
[15:49] <hugolp> and I didnt configure anything. Its the default here
[15:49] <greggnj> telnet: thanks a bunch..hopefully i can get this damn thing working..it's the only thing that i really need to get going...everything else is just small tweaks
[15:49] <Seeker`> hugolp: That was phrased badyl - pressing esc to go back through menus, pressing esc again and the pressing down + enter
[15:50] <hugolp> oh, so you want people to never be able to quite mythtv?
[15:50] <hugolp> *quit
[15:56] <TelnetManta> you can change the key mapping is what I was saying.......
[16:14] <jordioriol> hello
[16:14] <hugolp> bones tardes jordioriol
[16:15] <jordioriol> hola
[16:18] <jordioriol> any1 know if i can configure mythbuntu to watch dvb channels with an analog capture device?
[16:20] <iamlindoro__> only if you've got a DVB Set Top Box and capture one of its analog outs
[16:20] <hugolp> jordioriol:  una tarjeta analogica no pot veure canals dvb (o tdt que es el nom daquí)
[16:20] <jordioriol> ty
[17:04] <sebrock> anyone using the iMON LCD screen?
[17:42] <Seeker`> Am I right in thinking that I cannot use the composite and tuner inputs on my pvr150 at the same time?
[17:50] <majoridiot> Seeker`, yes, that is correct.
[18:49] <TelnetManta> with the new version out I cant believe this chan isnt busier!
[18:51] <laga> it's probably working well for everyone.
[18:51] <laga> the devs have achieved nirvana.
[18:52] <TelnetManta> :-)
[18:53] <TelnetManta> I likeit
[18:53] <TelnetManta> installinga new frontend right now
[18:54] <laga> i'm glad it's working for you
[18:55] <TelnetManta> gotta try to get my component out to work in a bit. Hope its just a matter of dropping in my backed up xorg
[19:00] <crow> DL iso file to try it out :)
[19:17] <TelnetManta> anyone noticed that locate doesnt workin 8.04?
[19:20] <iamlindoro__> Works ok--- did you run updatedb?
[19:20] <iamlindoro__> possibly preceded by sudo
[19:23] <TelnetManta> well now its working. maybe I just didnt give it long enough to build the DB
[19:54] <TelnetManta> well, mythtv-setup still likes to bomb on scanning I see.
[19:59] <laga> TelnetManta: did you run it from packages?
[19:59] <TelnetManta> yes
[19:59] <laga> or without the wrapper script?
[19:59] <laga> ah
[19:59] <TelnetManta> I clicked on it from the control panel
[19:59] <laga> okay, that's with the wrapper script ;)
[20:00] <TelnetManta> i like the wrapper scripts an things in this release
[20:00] <TelnetManta> very slick and professional
[20:00] <TelnetManta> Its at a whole new level now if you ask me
[20:00] <TelnetManta> If we could only include the 'patches' to enable scanning of NA dvb-s we'de be all set!
[20:02] <laga> danielk is working on a new channel scanner for 0.21.. but AFAIK, NA dvb-s needs sasc ;)
[20:03] <DaveMorris> hugolp: your T-500 working now?
[20:03] <DaveMorris> ﻿ hugolp: your T-500 working now?
[20:06] <DaveMorris> TelnetManta: where are you using dvb-s from?
[20:07] <DaveMorris> or which country even
[20:07] <iamlindoro__> Bellsouth = USA
[20:45] <hugolp> DaveMorris:  you know what? it seems its working. At least, it has done a couple of recordings. Before, hardy had never got to this point. Dmesg doesnt show any of the IC2 warnings. And the most funny thing is that I havent changed the mythtv backend configuration like you suggested yet. It seems the problem was the _ and the - in the options line.
[20:45] <hugolp> I want to wait some hours more until I assume its working.
[20:46] <laga> that's really interesting.
[21:18] <hyphun> hi there,
[21:19] <hyphun> i'm just installing mythtv on ubuntu hardy, and I ran into my first problem.
[21:19] <hyphun> i've google a bit, but can't seem to find a solution...
[21:20] <hyphun> How do you select a XMLTV grabber instead of schedulesdirect? i live in europe...
[21:22] <iamlindoro__> hyphun, you need to install your grabber properly first before it will show up in mythtv-setup
[21:22] <iamlindoro__> ie tv_grab_whatever --configure
[21:22] <hyphun> and where do I install it? in the control centre?
[21:22] <iamlindoro__> figure out what your xmltv grabber is and google how to install/set itup
[21:22] <hyphun> ah, ok. I just migrated from Knoppmyth, which i installed a year ago, so it's far back in my memory!
[21:23] <hyphun> thanks a lot!
[21:23] <iamlindoro__> no problem
[21:23] <iamlindoro__> usually it's what I said above
[21:23] <iamlindoro__> ie
[21:23] <iamlindoro__> ./tv_grab_nl --configure
[21:23] <iamlindoro__> but that's just generally speaking... once you have set it up right, it will show up as a grabber in mythtv-setup
[21:24] <hyphun> Ok, will try it right now!
[21:25] <laga> no, thaT's not quite right
[21:26] <laga> it should always show up in mythtv
[21:26] <laga> if it's baseline compliant
[21:26] <laga> configuration will take place in mythtv-setup (in a terminal window), and each video source will have its own config file
[21:27] <laga> so tv_grab_nl --configure isn't enough
[21:27] <iamlindoro__> laga, All I said was it won't show up as a selectable option until it's configured--- which is true AFAIK
[21:28] <iamlindoro__> obviously it will still need to be associated with a video source, but it won't be an option until the tv_grab configure line is run
[21:29] <laga> no, it's wrong :)
[21:29] <laga> it'll show up if it's returned by tv_find_grabbers
[21:30] <iamlindoro__> Hmm, didn't prove to be the case in helping multiple people in the past-- what I said above was the case then... oh well, perhaps that was issues with their particular grabbers
[21:32] <hyphun> ﻿iamlindoro__: ./tv_grab_nl --configure
[21:32] <hyphun> in which directory do i run that command? or should i find one on the internet first? got a little confused there.
[21:32] <iamlindoro__> hyphun, Not going to get you far if you don't live in the netherlands, by the way...
[21:32] <iamlindoro__> That was just an example, you need to configure the grabber for wherever you live
[21:33] <iamlindoro__> and you can't configure a grabber you don't have, so all of this depends on actually having your grabber installed
[21:34] <hyphun> ah, ok, thanks
[21:35] <laga> hyphun: you'll need to have the xmltv package installed
[21:36] <hyphun> yes, i just installed that package. they have a grabber for belgium, nice!
[21:40] <hyphun> finished configuring the grabber... now let's fire up the mythtv-setup again.
[21:45] <hyphun> damn, i had to go trough the whole grabber-setup again... so you just have to install XMLTV, and launch mythtv-setup, it will start the --configure option in a terminal window for you!
[21:46] <hyphun> :D
[21:46] <iamlindoro__> ahhh, laga, I misunderstood, didn't realize mythbuntu had added fanciness, was only speaking from experience with a base Myth install on j. random distro... apologies
[21:46] <hyphun> no problem!
[21:46] <hyphun> now you know! :d
[21:47] <hyphun> now i'm running mythfilldatabase --manual.
[21:54] <hyphun> one last thing: should i install any drivers for my pvr-150 or does mythtv communicate with it directly?
[21:54] <iamlindoro__> modules for the 150 are included in all ubuntu/mythbuntu versions
[21:55] <laga> iamlindoro__: no, it's the same everywhere with a recent enough xmltv and mythtv
[21:55] <laga> hyphun: btw, mythfilldatabase --manual --preset will often work better because it lets you adda  preset for each channel. eg assign a number to the channel
[21:55] <iamlindoro__> Hmmm, wonder why I had seen that behavior before, then.  Guess They might have been using old XMLtv or something.
[21:56] <laga> in the US, the frequency id is used for that, but in europe frequency ids often are alphanumeric which doesn't work too well with remotes. (AFAIK & IIRC, it's been a while since i used that stuff)
[21:56] <hyphun> laga: it asks me now for a channel ID, a channel name, a channel callsign and a channel number, so...
[21:57] <hyphun> i suppose the channel ID lets me sort it, no?
[21:57] <hyphun> i seem to remember that for knoppmyth.
[21:58] <laga> hyphun: can you read german?
[21:58] <hyphun> a bit, why?
[21:58] <laga> i've written a guide on that a few years ago, but it's in german ;)
[21:59] <hyphun> ah, ok, meinen deutsch ist nicht so super gut, aber ich koennte es lesen...
[21:59] <hyphun> :p
[21:59] <laga> http://www.mythwiki.de/index.php?title=HOWTO_Mythfilldatabase#Mythfilldatabase_--manual
[21:59] <laga> it assumes you're using --preset
[21:59] <hyphun> ah, ok
[22:00] <hyphun> when i used it with knoppmyth, i set most of the settings using mythweb, that seemed a lot easier to do, especially when you made mistakes in the mythfilldatabase --manual...
[22:01] <laga> true
[22:01] <laga> do you have analog or dvb?
[22:01] <hyphun> a pvr-150, analog.
[22:02] <hyphun> is it normal xawtv isn't working yet? :p
[22:02] <hyphun> should i worry?
[22:02] <laga> xawtv doesnt work with ivtv cards
[22:02] <laga> don't worry
[22:03] <hyphun> ah, ok, any program with which you can check it out quickly?
[22:04] <laga> mplayer
[22:04] <laga> mplayer /dev/video0
[22:04] <laga> should give you some noise ;)
[22:04] <hyphun> yes! it does! :p
[22:12] <hyphun> why does it ask it two times for every channel? i thought it finished, but it starts again...
[22:12] <laga> hyphun: oops. use --max-days 1 ;)
[22:12] <laga> t might be safe to ctrl+c
[22:12] <hyphun> and third time now... ah, ok.. thanks
[22:13] <laga> _might_
[22:13] <laga> ;)
[22:13] <hyphun> ok :d
[22:13] <hyphun> fingers crossed :p
[22:14] <hyphun> what's the port or url to reach mythweb? http://localhost... ?
[22:14] <laga> localhost/mythweb
[22:15] <hyphun> tried that one... doesn't work... maybe because my backend isn't running during mythfilldatabase...
[22:16] <hyphun> ok, mytfilldatabase finished running with max-days 1, should i run a complete one now?
[22:16] <laga> sure
[22:17] <laga> --max-days 1 is particularly useful for --manual
[22:17] <hyphun> yeah, i saw! :p
[22:27] <hyphun> thanks for all the help, guys! i'm quickly gonna reboot to see if it all works as it should...
[22:35] <Ghst_Wlf> Hello, I have problems with my ZAP miniDTV, usb DVB-T stick. (E3C EC168)
[22:36] <Ghst_Wlf> It only finds it as a USB keyboard
[22:49] <hti_pro> hey guys any issues with the new ubuntu and mythtv
[22:50] <laga> yes
[22:50] <hyphun> :( it isn't working... my recorder failed... what's the easiest log to check?
[22:51] <laga> hyphun: /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and mythfrontend.log
[23:01] <hyphun> i can't connect to mytweb... any idea why not?
[23:01] <laga> what's the error message?
[23:02] <hyphun> The requested URL /mythweb was not found on this server
[23:05] <hyphun> ok, i found out the apache installation is a bit weird on my system.
[23:05] <hyphun> i found the path to the mythweb install
[23:05] <hyphun> it is /var/www/mythweb
[23:06] <hyphun> but if i check /var/www/index.html, it says "it works!"
[23:06] <hyphun> but when i go to http://localhost
[23:06] <laga> odd
[23:06] <hyphun> it says "hello, it is working"
[23:06] <laga> yeah, because /var/www/index.html is in the / of your http
[23:07] <laga> d
[23:07] <hyphun> i remember something vaguely about using multiple apache directories...
[23:10] <hyphun> found another "home" directory of apache in ~/public_html
[23:10] <hyphun> and that index.htm is saying "hello, it is working. so..."
[23:12] <laga> is that mythbuntu 8.04?
[23:13] <hyphun> yes, it is, but it is an upgrade from 7.10. I copied the mytweb directory to ~/public.html.
[23:13] <hyphun> have to change the permissions, i guess.
[23:15] <laga> ah, so it's a custom setup.
[23:17] <hyphun> i guess so... i'm a tinkerer... sometimes too much...
[23:24] <hyphun> got it!
[23:24] <hyphun> weehah!
[23:24] <hyphun> I followed the install doc...
[23:25] <laga> which one?
[23:29] <hyphun> from mytweb.
[23:29] <hyphun> mythweb
[23:29] <hyphun> it explained everything, there was a sample mythweb.conf file i had to adjust and copy to the "extra config" folder of my apache installation
[23:30] <hyphun> i had to point mythweb to my custom webserver-folder
[23:33] <laga> the ubuntu/mythbuntu magc just copes that mythweb.conf.apache into place.. be careful, now you can't use mythweb password stuff in the mythbuntu control centre. just a FYI :)
[23:34] <hyphun> yes, i know... in that file they said something about passwords. i'll check that one out, but first i have to get my backend working properly
[23:35] <hyphun> how do i delete storage groups ?
[23:35] <hyphun> i'm not used yet to that concept.
[23:58] <hyphun> got it!
[23:59] <hyphun> had to specify the frequency and the channel number it seems...