| lifeless | 2.4.2 | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| ig1 | morning | 00:01 |
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| vila | lifeless: bingo ! I can reproduce it with python-2.4.4 | 00:09 |
| lifeless | cool | 00:09 |
| vila | not accpepting interrupts though :) | 00:09 |
| lifeless | spiv: ping | 00:47 |
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| spiv | lifeless: hi, just about to dive into your review | 00:55 |
| lifeless | spiv: thanks | 00:56 |
| lifeless | I have an updated deprecations patch | 01:05 |
| lifeless | and I missed a couple of trivial uses of vf.join() | 01:06 |
| bob2 | http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=90 | 01:12 |
| lifeless | spiv: if you want to talk about the branch I'm happy to do a clal | 01:12 |
| igc | lifeless: thanks for the detailed response to my filtering brain dump | 01:21 |
| lifeless | igc: eh, that was just a off the cuff :) | 01:21 |
| igc | np - I'm reviewing jam's patch right now and I'll digest your wisdom after that :-) | 01:22 |
| lifeless | igc: I haven't had time to give a proper analysis, but its a complex problem to do really well which is why I was so keen for us to layer it with the minimum | 01:22 |
| igc | lifeless: Agreed. I'll move the conversation to the mailing list so others can chime in as well. | 01:24 |
| poolie | igc, i think it may be ok to not worry right now about how to reapply all your filters to the tree | 01:48 |
| poolie | perhaps it does need to be fixed before we really announce it | 01:48 |
| igc | poolie: ok. I'll send an email anyway to give people time to think about it how it ought to work | 01:49 |
| poolie | mm | 01:49 |
| poolie | i should probably not think about it today, have too much more urgent stuff | 01:49 |
| igc | poolie: np - I can't implement a solution till next Tues at the earliest anyway | 01:50 |
| lifeless | poolie: igc: I think we need *a* method to reset a tree to the current filtered contents | 02:03 |
| lifeless | if 'bzr revert' did nothing, it would be most frustrating for people :) | 02:04 |
| poolie | i agree | 02:14 |
| poolie | lifeless: but things like update that normally do a 3way merge will be more difficult - they don't have the output from the old filter to merge against afaics | 02:15 |
| poolie | lifeless: re your patch | 02:15 |
| poolie | removing deprecated code | 02:16 |
| poolie | is there a current equivalent to MultipleRevisionSources? | 02:16 |
| poolie | like if we wanted to fix the problem of missing doing a fetch, is that easy with the current apis? | 02:16 |
| lifeless | poolie: 'update' should be fine as long as you reset the tree to match the filters before you update | 02:17 |
| lifeless | poolie: because it will always be merging the canonical forms | 02:18 |
| lifeless | poolie: MultipleRevisionSources is already unused | 02:18 |
| lifeless | and deprecated | 02:18 |
| lifeless | graph.ParentsProvider has cleaner functionality | 02:19 |
| igc | lifeless, poolie: email sent to the list now on this topic | 02:24 |
| igc | I need to focus on reviewing jam's patch right now so I'll digest everyone's input next week | 02:25 |
| poolie | lifeless: yes i saw it was deprecated | 02:32 |
| lifeless | spiv: updated patch sent; trivial changes | 02:38 |
| spiv | lifeless: thanks | 02:38 |
| lifeless | spiv: how is it looking ? | 02:40 |
| spiv | Pretty good. | 02:40 |
| spiv | No fundamental "wtf" issues :) | 02:41 |
| spiv | So far, anyway ;) | 02:41 |
| === poolie changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control system | | ||
| === poolie changed the topic of #bzr to: Bazaar version control system | http://bazaar-vcs.org/ | bzr-1.4 out, May 2 | ||
| hersonls | poolie: New bazaar version now? | 02:44 |
| hersonls | :D | 02:44 |
| spiv | poolie: hooray! | 02:52 |
| spiv | poolie: I'm about to head off to your place... should we meet for lunch? | 02:52 |
| poolie | spiv, sure, call me when you get to the station | 02:54 |
| poolie | hersonls: yes | 02:54 |
| poolie | spiv, i may not be able to work on hpss right away but come on anyhow | 02:55 |
| hersonls | poolie: Good :D | 02:55 |
| spiv | poolie: ok | 02:56 |
| lifeless | spiv: review is done ? | 02:57 |
| spiv | lifeless: not yet, will continue on the train | 02:59 |
| lifeless | ok | 02:59 |
| abentley | lifeless: spent any time in Dunedin? | 03:26 |
| lifeless | abentley: born and bred | 03:27 |
| abentley | I'll be there on Sunday. Anything I should see and/or do? | 03:28 |
| lifeless | the city gardens are beautiful | 03:28 |
| lifeless | they have some of the rare and endangered bird species there | 03:28 |
| lifeless | mmm winter, won'y suggest sandfly bay | 03:28 |
| poolie | abentley: when i was there i went out on the peninsula south of town | 03:29 |
| lifeless | the albatross colony might be open though, thats well worth a visit; and if you like beaches head out to the spit | 03:29 |
| abentley | Sandfly bay? That sounds kinda ominous. | 03:29 |
| poolie | they have penguin and albatross nests | 03:29 |
| poolie | and giant sheep | 03:29 |
| lifeless | poolie: thats NE of town :) | 03:29 |
| poolie | maybe it moved :P | 03:29 |
| abentley | Cool. Thanks for the suggestions. | 03:30 |
| lifeless | there are a number of nice lookouts, the one back of the quarry has a particularly good view of the city | 03:30 |
| lifeless | heading up mt cargill can be nice too | 03:30 |
| lifeless | its a uni town, I'm totally positive you'll be able to find an open mic as wlel | 03:31 |
| abentley | Hehe. | 03:31 |
| lifeless | really, I think its something like 10% population is floating students | 03:31 |
| lifeless | the whole place ebbs and flows to the university holiday schedule | 03:32 |
| mwhudson | it's like the last week of term i think | 03:32 |
| mwhudson | (at least it is at massey) | 03:32 |
| abentley | Hmm. Yeah, I guess the only real university town I've been to is New Haven, Connecticut. Toronto and Montreal have universities, but they're also big cities. | 03:34 |
| lifeless | oh,if the mei wah fish and chip shop is open, or the golden sun beside it, try some. One if unforgettably terrible, and one unforgettably good (or was 12 years ago). | 03:34 |
| lifeless | I won't tell you which is which :) | 03:35 |
| abentley | poolie: congrats on the 1.4ness | 03:36 |
| poolie | thanks, sorry for the delay | 03:37 |
| poolie | now for pqm toil | 03:38 |
| poolie | fortunately it is getting more automated each time - i just sent a patch deleting more steps from teh RM guide | 03:38 |
| abentley | lifeless: I'm a bit surprised common_ancestor is deprecated. I believe I'm still using it in graph-ancestry. | 03:38 |
| lifeless | abentley: deprecated in 1.4 | 03:39 |
| abentley | Ah, I'm actually using node_distances and select_farthest. | 03:40 |
| lifeless | :) | 03:41 |
| poolie | abentley: have a good trip btw | 03:45 |
| abentley | poolie: Thanks. | 03:45 |
| poolie | abentley: if by any chance you're still here: what was the case with lp push or pull that was slow for you? | 04:29 |
| lifeless | poolie: bzr branch <the code of launchpad itself> | 04:30 |
| lifeless | poolie: over hpss | 04:30 |
| lifeless | poolie: I think his mail didn't discriminate enough between using lp, and being lp :) | 04:31 |
| lifeless | spiv and I are aware of this and have both done some analysis | 04:31 |
| poolie | into an empty repo? | 04:31 |
| lifeless | poolie: no repo | 04:31 |
| lifeless | poolie: call ? | 04:31 |
| poolie | ok | 04:31 |
| abentley | poolie: It was branch | 04:38 |
| abentley | poolie: I'm in the middle of repeating it for you. | 04:39 |
| abentley | But the whole process takes > 1 hour | 04:39 |
| * igc lunch and pick up kids -bbl | 04:55 | |
| abentley | lifeless: I'm a bit lost on how to change ReconcilePacker to update sha1s. | 05:02 |
| lifeless | abentley: indeed | 05:10 |
| lifeless | abentley: it needs to override the revision bulk copy and have it occur after the inventory copy; during the inventory copy you'll need to determine what the correct sha1s are | 05:10 |
| lifeless | a subclass for the case where this is needed may be appropriate | 05:11 |
| abentley | In order to update the sha1s, I need to know the correct serializer, so I need the repository. Which seems like a layering violation. | 05:12 |
| lifeless | well the repository chooses the reconciler etc | 05:13 |
| lifeless | so it can pass in the serializer (though isn't the sha1 on disk always the correct one now ?) | 05:14 |
| lifeless | oh! it needs the revision serialiser | 05:14 |
| lifeless | I definitely think a subclass is appropriate here | 05:14 |
| abentley | Though perhaps if I need the repo anyway, I should be using repo methods. | 05:27 |
| abentley | lifeless: Is there any easy way of reading/writing fulltexts from a PackCollection? | 05:44 |
| lifeless | yes | 05:44 |
| lifeless | one sec | 05:44 |
| lifeless | you instantiate a KnitVersionedFile on the pack and a GraphIndex (for revisions|signatures|inventories|knits) | 05:45 |
| abentley | I can do that on a single pack, not the PackCollection? | 05:46 |
| lifeless | to read the old revisions I would do use the existing repositories iter_revisions or whatever | 05:46 |
| lifeless | you can, but there is no guarantee that you can read a given uncompressed text from a single pack | 05:47 |
| lifeless | basis texts may well be in different packs | 05:47 |
| lifeless | For reading revisions I would use the repositories methods | 05:47 |
| lifeless | for writing them serialising and adding is probably cleanest (see the output_knit variable around line 1062) | 05:48 |
| abentley | Not important for this case, since revisions are not (supposed to be) delta'd. | 05:48 |
| lifeless | the existing reconcile code does 'repo.weave_store.get_weave(file_id, transaction) to read texts | 05:48 |
| lifeless | that is by far the simplest way | 05:48 |
| abentley | Okay, thanks. | 05:49 |
| spiv | lifeless: review heading your way | 05:57 |
| lifeless | thanks | 06:01 |
| spiv | Hmm, or at least it will be once I sort out my mail delivery... | 06:01 |
| lifeless | :P | 06:07 |
| jrydberg | morning you hackers. | 06:14 |
| lifeless | where, where? | 06:14 |
| jrydberg | there, there. | 06:14 |
| jrydberg | sup robert? | 06:14 |
| lifeless | spiv: short story, is it tweak? bounce? approve? | 06:14 |
| spiv | lifeless: tweak | 06:15 |
| rockstar_ | Morning? It's 2300 here! :) | 06:15 |
| lifeless | jrydberg: VersionedFiles is taking shape | 06:15 |
| lifeless | rockstar_: wait 46 minutes | 06:15 |
| poolie | starting ppa rebuild of 1.4 | 06:15 |
| spiv | lifeless: but if you want to bounce up and down, I won't stop you ;) | 06:15 |
| jrydberg | lifeless: Finally. | 06:15 |
| lifeless | jrydberg: well, there was a bunch of prep work to do :) | 06:15 |
| lifeless | jrydberg: how are you, haven't chatted in -ages- | 06:15 |
| jrydberg | lifeless: hehe. | 06:16 |
| jrydberg | lifeless: i'm fine, i'm fine. just trying to use computers are little as possible in my spare time. noticed that it helps my motivation at work. | 06:16 |
| poolie | jrydberg: heh, me too :) | 06:19 |
| poolie | or at least i am trying to be careful of that effect | 06:19 |
| jrydberg | i've turned to photography instead. | 06:19 |
| jrydberg | equally geeky, less computers. | 06:19 |
| lifeless | well thats 8 hours poolie | 06:19 |
| lifeless | poolie: so I'm calling it till Monday | 06:19 |
| lifeless | jrydberg: this is my solution, to be self strict about work | hobby time | 06:20 |
| spiv | lifeless: you should have that mail now | 06:20 |
| spiv | abentley: thanks for that log | 06:20 |
| abentley | spiv: No problem. | 06:20 |
| lifeless | well, I'll reply first :) | 06:21 |
| lifeless | then call the day | 06:21 |
| poolie | lifeless: can you read this one mail i'm going to send first? :) | 06:23 |
| poolie | about PPAs | 06:23 |
| lifeless | I think beta is overkill | 06:43 |
| lifeless | just use snapshot for betas | 06:43 |
| lifeless | IMO | 06:43 |
| * lifeless waves | 06:44 | |
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| igc | night all - have a good weekend | 08:53 |
| igc | back Tuesday for me | 08:53 |
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| === quicksilve is now known as quicksilver | ||
| vila | ok, I narrowed down my pqm hanging scenario, reproduced on gutsy with: | 11:14 |
| vila | python2.4 bzr selftest bzrlib.tests.test_strace.TestStrace.test_strace_callable_is_called bzrlib.tests.test_strace.TestStrace.test_strace_callable_result bzrlib.tests.blackbox.test_serve.TestBzrServe.test_bzr_connect_to_bzr_ssh | 11:14 |
| vila | any advice greatly appreciated while the diagnosis continues ;-) | 11:15 |
| * fullermd has none whatosoever. | 11:16 | |
| vila | fullermd: thanks for the warm moral support :-P | 11:18 |
| * fullermd is helpful like that :] | 11:19 | |
| fullermd | strace does sound like a good candidate for twisting up a machine, though. | 11:20 |
| vila | the puzzling bit is that I submitted a patch that first glance has strictly nothing to do with strace :) Neither at second glance FWIW | 11:24 |
| vila | and to make it funnier I can reproduce it on a single machine only while, still at first glance, the two are gutsy installs :) | 11:25 |
| fullermd | With strace installed? | 11:25 |
| fullermd | I know the tests skip without it (I don't have it installed) | 11:26 |
| vila | fullermd: excellent idea ! But both have the same version installed | 11:26 |
| vila | both says 'tests passed' (i.e. really late, nearly before exiting) but one hang after that | 11:27 |
| fullermd | Well, maybe strace isn't standard-installed, but one has it chosen as additional. | 11:28 |
| fullermd | I could believe that strace enables something that runs at cleanup time, so that could cause a late hang. | 11:29 |
| fullermd | (of course, I'm in pure speculation mode here, so I could well be making it up as I go along too :) | 11:29 |
| vila | I don't remember if I installed them myself, but that was through synaptic anyway, so both installs should be correct, but looking at the code I suspect something related to 'import subprocess' since these tests use that, there may be some weird interaction | 11:34 |
| vila | I think my patch just revealed a latent bug | 11:35 |
| vila | test_bzr_connect_to_bzr_ssh has several 'XXX' anyway | 11:39 |
| vila | spiv: are you still around by chance ? | 11:39 |
| fullermd | Great, you broke him. | 11:56 |
| vila | fullermd: damn :) | 11:59 |
| fullermd | That's talent. You exposed a latent bug in bzr _and_ spiv at the same time ;) | 12:02 |
| vila | fullermd: lol, I will meditate about that during lunch :) | 12:33 |
| jsled | I've a shared repo, with a branch 'trunk'. I've done `bzr branch trunk local`. Now, I'd like to rename 'local' to something else. Is it just "mv local something-else", or does bzr need to get involved, and if so, by what command? | 15:07 |
| james_w | jsled: "mv local something-else" is fine | 15:09 |
| james_w | jsled: bzr would need to get involved for something like "mv local /somewhere/else/entirely" | 15:10 |
| james_w | as long as you stay within the shared repo you should be ok. | 15:10 |
| jsled | thanks. :) | 15:10 |
| james_w | (assuming you don't move something inside another branch, or a repo in repo or similar) | 15:10 |
| visit0r | hi, is there someone using the bzr-hookless-email? for some reason it seems to hang and leak memory like crazy. | 15:42 |
| visit0r | File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/bzrlib/repository.py", line 1520, in deserialise_inventory | 15:42 |
| visit0r | probably that's the hanging function | 15:43 |
| jelmer | dato: ping | 16:38 |
| jelmer | dato: your upload of bzr 1.3.1-1 doesn't appear to be in the bzr branch on alioth | 16:38 |
| chadmiller | Hi all. Has anyone tried reviewboard with Bazaar? It seems to have gotten some of Bazaar support lately. | 16:53 |
| * chadmiller doesn't know how deep it goes. | 16:53 | |
| jelmer | chadmiller: I think statik was the person who did most of the work on that | 16:53 |
| jelmer | statik, ^ | 16:53 |
| chadmiller | From the log, "Patch from Henrik Hedberg to add basic support for the Bazaar SCM." | 16:56 |
| chadmiller | That ain't statik. | 16:56 |
| jelmer | hmm, must be another branch than https://code.launchpad.net/~statik/reviewboard/bazaarsupport then that got merged.. | 16:57 |
| chadmiller | A related question: That patch has some questionable choices in it. Instead of importing bzrlib, it runs "bzr" with arguments and catches stdout. Is that as silly as I think it is? Do you consider the internal bzr APIs stable? | 17:01 |
| chadmiller | Or, rather, /is there/ a public API for bzr? | 17:01 |
| jelmer | ah, ouch | 17:02 |
| jelmer | there is a public API for bzr in Python (in which reviewboard is also written) | 17:02 |
| jelmer | that does indeed seem like a very questionable choice | 17:03 |
| * lamont struggles to remember how to import a cvs tree into bzr | 17:05 | |
| lamont | and finds it | 17:09 |
| surfous | I've got a local branch that is a checkout of a branch hosted in Launchpad... I've just done a bzr upgrade to upgrade the format. What's the proper way to get my remote master branch upgraded as well? It still appears to be of format BzrBranch5 | 17:20 |
| beuno | surfous, bzr upgrade sftp://user@bazaar.lauchpad... | 17:21 |
| beuno | upgrading it through sftp on LP | 17:21 |
| beuno | but, be warned, it takes a while | 17:21 |
| surfous | beuno: Thanks for the info - I fear it's sending me on a tail-chase, though... | 17:25 |
| surfous | What prompted me to do this was trying to tag my branch. I got the following error: | 17:25 |
| surfous | bzr: ERROR: Tags not supported by BzrBranch5('bzr+ssh://surf@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Epyax/pyax/release/'); you may be able to use bzr upgrade --dirstate-tags. | 17:25 |
| surfous | I did a bzr upgrade which brought my format up to pack-0.92 | 17:26 |
| surfous | local format, that is | 17:26 |
| surfous | trying to upgrade the remote branch tells me: bzr: ERROR: The branch format Bazaar-NG meta directory, format 1 is already at the most recent format. | 17:27 |
| surfous | So one operation tells me I'm out of date, and the other tells me I'm up to date, when ultimately, I'm just confused. | 17:28 |
| jelmer | surfous, try upgrading over sftp rather than bzr+ssh | 17:29 |
| beuno | surfous, what does "bzr info -v" on the remote branch tell you? | 17:29 |
| surfous | jelmer: Cool, that seems to be doing more than what I had before... I'll see where that lands me. | 17:30 |
| surfous | beuno: surf@fischer:~/src/pyax/release$ bzr info -v bzr+ssh://surf@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Epyax/pyax/trunk | 17:32 |
| surfous | Standalone branch (format: unnamed) | 17:32 |
| surfous | Location: | 17:32 |
| surfous | branch root: bzr+ssh://surf@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Epyax/pyax/trunk/ | 17:32 |
| surfous | Format: | 17:32 |
| surfous | control: bzr remote bzrdir | 17:32 |
| surfous | branch: Remote BZR Branch | 17:32 |
| surfous | repository: bzr remote repository | 17:32 |
| surfous | Branch history: | 17:32 |
| surfous | 51 revisions | 17:32 |
| surfous | 4 committers | 17:32 |
| surfous | 371 days old | 17:32 |
| surfous | first revision: Thu 2007-04-26 10:50:37 -0700 | 17:32 |
| surfous | latest revision: Thu 2008-05-01 14:17:23 -0700 | 17:32 |
| surfous | Repository: | 17:32 |
| surfous | 63 revisions | 17:32 |
| surfous | 324 KiB | 17:32 |
| surfous | beuno: I know I referenced my release branch before, any this is on my trunk, but the problem was the same on each | 17:33 |
| beuno | surfous, right, for some reason, that's very uninformative, but upgrading through sftp is the way to go | 17:36 |
| surfous | beuno: And it does indeed take a while as you'd warned, but I've no problem waiting. | 17:37 |
| surfous | Thanks a lot for your help, beuno and jelmer! | 17:37 |
| beuno | surfous, :) | 17:37 |
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| jelmer | abentley, hi | 19:11 |
| lamont | given a bzr 1.3.1 tree, bzr log says that the current revision is '47'. is there any trivial way to get that out of bzr short of resorting to perl/awk/sed/grep foolery? | 19:38 |
| beuno | lamont, bzr revno? | 19:39 |
| lamont | I knew there had to be something. thanks | 19:39 |
| beuno | :) | 19:39 |
| lamont | "version" and "revision" didn't give me what I wanted, so I decided that asking would be quicker. thanks again | 19:40 |
| beuno | nothing better then taking advantage of random knowledge on IRC! | 19:41 |
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| beuno | *ignore me* #214825 | 20:15 |
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| matkor_ | Hi !. Is is possible to ignore all ".svn" dirs regardless how deep they are ? | 23:26 |
| james_w | does "bzr ignore .svn" not work? | 23:28 |
| matkor_ | let me see ... | 23:31 |
| matkor_ | james_w: Works, thank you very much | 23:32 |
| james_w | no problem | 23:32 |
| trepca | i have two branches ... trunk and branch1, people commit to trunk and also tag commits | 23:33 |
| trepca | how could i diff these two and only limit on tagged commits | 23:33 |
| james_w | I'm not sure that's possible | 23:34 |
| trepca | ok, thanks :) | 23:34 |
| james_w | you want to diff two branches but only show the changes that were introduced in one by certain commits? | 23:34 |
| trepca | trying to implement a code review | 23:35 |
| trepca | when people close a bug, they commit with a tag containing the bug id | 23:35 |
| trepca | laterz | 23:36 |
| trepca | night | 23:36 |
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