| growlyae | some brazilian here ? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| msaul | I have a question regarding Server Edition Hardy Heron... | 00:41 |
| msaul | In previous version it ran automatically in X-Windows... | 00:41 |
| msaul | This version, it doesn't, is this to increase performance? | 00:42 |
| msaul | In this case, is the idea to log in graphically to perform | 00:42 |
| LaserJock | msaul: how do you mean? | 00:42 |
| msaul | When I installed desktop - full graphical | 00:42 |
| msaul | When I wiped system and installed server, it is just text based | 00:42 |
| msaul | No graphics | 00:43 |
| msaul | It mentions this in documentation as difference | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | servers generally don't have graphical programs on them | 00:43 |
| msaul | between 8.04 desktop and server versions... | 00:43 |
| msaul | Can LTSP be run on desktop version? | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | sure | 00:43 |
| msaul | So I could install just desktop versions | 00:44 |
| LaserJock | well | 00:44 |
| msaul | and it has LTSP automatically installed? | 00:44 |
| LaserJock | first tell me what you're trying to do | 00:44 |
| msaul | Setting up lab with 15 thin clients | 00:44 |
| msaul | Already did over 3 years | 00:44 |
| msaul | with high schools with 5.10, 6.04, 6.10 and 7.10 | 00:45 |
| msaul | Liked the automatic install of LTSP | 00:45 |
| msaul | so I could connect | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | ok | 00:45 |
| msaul | to thin clients with PXE 2.0 nic cards | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | so you want to get the Ubuntu Alternate CD | 00:45 |
| msaul | i.e. kiss principle | 00:46 |
| msaul | I can understand if server version is more efficient | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | no, it's not really about that | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | there's only one CD that will automatically install LTSP for you | 00:47 |
| msaul | Is that the server edition? | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | no | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | the Ubuntu Alternate CD | 00:47 |
| msaul | I saw that, but was confused ... | 00:47 |
| msaul | wasn't intuitive to me... | 00:48 |
| msaul | when selecting download path... | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | check out https://wiki.edubuntu.org/HardyClassroomServer | 00:48 |
| msaul | Thanks, I will do that, and burn that CD... | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | The server edition won't work because LTSP is a desktop server | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | so it needs all the desktop packages | 00:48 |
| msaul | OK | 00:49 |
| msaul | I will check out your link and save for future reference.... | 00:49 |
| msaul | Thanks | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | no problem | 00:49 |
| riched_ | ping ogra | 00:52 |
| LaserJock | riched_: is that you? | 00:53 |
| riched_ | hi LaserJock | 00:53 |
| riched_ | on the classmate ... my notenbook s dinged :( | 00:53 |
| ogra | oh, what did you do to it ? | 00:54 |
| riched_ | ever seen this before ? system boots okay ... get gui login | 00:54 |
| riched_ | accepts user / pass | 00:54 |
| riched_ | tt1 shows up for 1 sec | 00:54 |
| riched_ | screen blanks | 00:54 |
| riched_ | back to login | 00:54 |
| riched_ | infinite cycle | 00:54 |
| riched_ | ??? | 00:54 |
| ogra | hmm, no | 00:55 |
| ogra | thats your lappie ? | 00:55 |
| riched_ | if i give incorrect credentials ... it tells me ... | 00:55 |
| ogra | sounds like an X server issue | 00:56 |
| riched_ | so my login in is correct | 00:56 |
| riched_ | yep my HP | 00:56 |
| ogra | did you do an upgrade ? | 00:56 |
| riched_ | what command line util can i run to correct / diagnose | 00:56 |
| riched_ | nope ... did not upgrade ... am doing so over weekend | 00:57 |
| ogra | get me your /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 00:57 |
| ogra | and .xsession-errors from your homedir | 00:58 |
| * riched_ tries that ... hang on | 00:58 | |
| riched_ | no .xsession-erros | 01:00 |
| riched_ | no .xsession-errors file | 01:00 |
| ogra | weird | 01:00 |
| ogra | that gets created if your gnome session starts | 01:01 |
| ogra | so it dies before | 01:01 |
| ogra | which indicates even more its an X prob | 01:01 |
| ogra | but its strange that you have a login manager then | 01:01 |
| ogra | did you try to select a different session ? | 01:02 |
| riched_ | how do i output a file contents from the command line ? | 01:04 |
| riched_ | grep ? | 01:04 |
| ogra | cat or less | 01:04 |
| riched_ | triedn default gnome | 01:05 |
| riched_ | same damn thing | 01:05 |
| ogra | try failsafe Xterm | 01:05 |
| ogra | then run gnome-session in there | 01:06 |
| ogra | and see if you get any error | 01:06 |
| riched_ | tried failsafe gnome ... GDM filespace error | 01:06 |
| ogra | aha | 01:06 |
| riched_ | that's the prob | 01:06 |
| ogra | smells like a full disk | 01:06 |
| riched_ | suspected that | 01:06 |
| riched_ | me goes to do some culling | 01:06 |
| ogra | empty your evolution trash | 01:06 |
| * ogra usually forgets about that and often finds several 100M to make room | 01:07 | |
| ogra | did yu recently install any updates ? sudo apt-get clean could then already save your butt | 01:08 |
| * LaserJock has been grading lab reports for hours | 01:09 | |
| LaserJock | man my brain is fried | 01:09 |
| ogra | with a laser ? | 01:09 |
| riched_ | how do i see free space from command line / | 01:10 |
| ogra | df -h | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | ogra: no lasers today | 01:12 |
| riched_ | it | 01:16 |
| riched_ | iws | 01:16 |
| riched_ | bah ... small kbd big fingers tired brain | 01:16 |
| riched_ | it is alive again ... ;0 | 01:16 |
| * riched_ can now go to bed without a morning panic :) | 01:17 | |
| riched_ | thanks fellows | 01:17 |
| riched_ | sleep well ogra | 01:17 |
| ogra | you too | 01:18 |
| riched_ | have a nice day LaserJock ... less acid dude ... no more brain frying | 01:18 |
| ogra | i'll go on to do some merges, intrpid just opened | 01:18 |
| riched_ | bye | 01:18 |
| LaserJock | ogra: wow, gcompris is up-to-date. I thought for sure we'd need a merging :-) | 01:35 |
| ogra | heh | 01:35 |
| ogra | i only have four pkgs on the list | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | I don't have any in Main | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | 2 in Universe | 01:36 |
| ogra | lenny is keeping debian from doing updates i guess | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | that may be it yeah | 01:36 |
| ogra | i know vagrant is *very* cautious to do any updates | 01:36 |
| LaserJock | or maybe we did a better job in Hardy of keeping up-to-date :-) | 01:37 |
| ogra | even though he doesnt belive lenny will happen before dec | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | my bet is on lenny ;-) | 01:37 |
| ogra | yeah | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | well, I go with the release date and then add ~ 6 months | 01:38 |
| ogra | heh | 01:38 |
| === johnny8 is now known as johnny_ | ||
| ogra | i said feb :) | 01:38 |
| johnny_ | uggh | 01:38 |
| johnny_ | is flash broken on amd64 again? | 01:38 |
| * LaserJock cries | 01:38 | |
| LaserJock | johnny_: in general or just on LTSP? | 01:39 |
| johnny_ | in general | 01:39 |
| ogra | should work with nspluinwrapper | 01:39 |
| ogra | +g | 01:39 |
| johnny_ | libgcc_s.so.1 | 01:40 |
| johnny_ | says that is missing | 01:40 |
| johnny_ | that is npviewer.bin itself | 01:46 |
| ogra | weird | 01:46 |
| ogra | i know many people use it | 01:46 |
| johnny_ | it's a registered bug i think too.. | 01:46 |
| johnny_ | now if only i can find it | 01:46 |
| johnny_ | 180478 | 01:48 |
| johnny_ | it is bug 180478 | 01:48 |
| johnny_ | i am just not good enough debian/ubuntu to be able to fix this crap | 01:50 |
| johnny_ | but that is what we have.. | 01:50 |
| johnny_ | an earlier version if ia32-libs has it i think | 01:50 |
| johnny_ | Flash Plugin installed. | 01:51 |
| johnny_ | /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgcc_s.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 01:51 |
| johnny_ | nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so | 01:51 |
| johnny_ | ogra, any ideas for me? | 01:56 |
| johnny_ | to figure this thing out? | 01:56 |
| ogra | not really, i'm not really familiar with ia32-libs, but i know many people use it with success | 01:57 |
| johnny_ | ugghz | 02:01 |
| johnny_ | i feel like since the upgrade didn't complete all the way through | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | i missed af ew things | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | ie: the cleanup phase never ran | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | also.. the internet just goes down randomly now | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | i can't pinpoint why | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | but at least once a day, i have to restart the computer | 02:02 |
| ogra | run u-m again ? | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | it says it's done | 02:02 |
| johnny_ | but it's hard for me to believe | 02:03 |
| ogra | did you do y proper update from gutsy-updates before starting ? | 02:03 |
| ogra | s/y/a | 02:03 |
| johnny_ | i did do all the updates i had | 02:03 |
| johnny_ | before starting the upgrade | 02:04 |
| ogra | strange | 02:04 |
| ogra | lsb_release -a ? | 02:04 |
| johnny_ | it says hardy | 02:04 |
| johnny_ | there goes the internet again | 02:04 |
| johnny_ | only a reboot solves it | 02:04 |
| johnny_ | there's nothing in dmesg | 02:04 |
| ogra | NM works properly ? | 02:06 |
| johnny_ | i guess.. :) | 02:06 |
| ogra | and ubuntu-desktop is installed? | 02:06 |
| johnny_ | yes | 02:06 |
| ogra | i dont really have an idea ... you might want to talk to mvo tomorrow who does u-m | 02:07 |
| johnny_ | well .. this internet problem is more important | 02:09 |
| johnny_ | i'm getting serious flack now | 02:09 |
| johnny_ | there's nothing in the logs either :( | 02:10 |
| johnny_ | i need to figure out if it's the driver | 02:11 |
| johnny_ | or some random software | 02:11 |
| ogra | what card ? | 02:11 |
| johnny_ | b44 | 02:11 |
| ogra | eeek | 02:11 |
| johnny_ | it is onboard | 02:11 |
| * ogra boggles facing the boradcom | 02:11 | |
| johnny_ | it worked great until hardy | 02:11 |
| ogra | firmware out of date ? | 02:12 |
| johnny_ | for wired ? | 02:12 |
| johnny_ | wired | 02:12 |
| ogra | hmm, i never had a wired bracom | 02:12 |
| ogra | *broadcom | 02:12 |
| johnny_ | it's not bcm43xx or anythign | 02:12 |
| johnny_ | it's just b44 :) | 02:12 |
| johnny_ | hmm.. maybe i should migrate back to the 22 kernel | 02:12 |
| ogra | there is a fresh kernel in hardy-proposed | 02:13 |
| johnny_ | so.. what should i do to upgrade | 02:14 |
| ogra | hmm, nothing about b44 | 02:14 |
| johnny_ | i just wish i could tell if twas the driver somehow | 02:15 |
| johnny_ | any suggestions on that? | 02:17 |
| johnny_ | test | 02:20 |
| johnny_ | am i still here | 02:20 |
| ogra | yes | 02:20 |
| johnny_ | uggh.. stupid internet | 02:21 |
| ogra | i wont be much longer ... nearly 3:30 here | 02:21 |
| ogra | (am) | 02:21 |
| johnny_ | yeah.. figured | 02:21 |
| kingair_six | hello, I am a relative noob in linux and have some issue with burning cds. i probably tried 3 different media and it always came up with an error. now online it says to add my username after "disk" in etc/group , so far so good, but how can I save group after I changed it? | 02:29 |
| kingair_six | any idea? | 02:39 |
| johnny_ | uggh... this is lame | 02:44 |
| johnny_ | after every upgrade of ubuntu.. i have to spend at least 6 hours trying to figure something out | 02:45 |
| kingair_six | what is that? | 02:45 |
| kingair_six | this burning stuff is so devestating... going through cds like sherman through atlanta... | 02:53 |
| LaserJock | kingair_six: whe does it give you an error? | 02:56 |
| kingair_six | when using the nautilus feature with right klick "write to disc" | 02:58 |
| kingair_six | it gives it immediately | 02:58 |
| kingair_six | with k3b it does not let me choose a drive or does not recognize the empty media | 02:58 |
| LaserJock | man | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | that stinks | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | I haven't had problems like that for years :/ | 02:59 |
| kingair_six | now i found one possible solution, to write my username into etc/group after disc, but i couldnt figure out how to save groups after i edited it, wouldnt let me | 02:59 |
| kingair_six | i'm sorry to bring it up... i just started with linux three days ago | 02:59 |
| LaserJock | you need to have administrator permissions | 02:59 |
| kingair_six | well, it's an administrator account | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | how did you edit it? | 03:00 |
| * johnny_ cries | 03:00 | |
| LaserJock | what app? | 03:00 |
| kingair_six | holdon, checkin | 03:00 |
| kingair_six | gedit | 03:00 |
| LaserJock | from the menu? | 03:00 |
| kingair_six | jup, rightclick-> text editor | 03:01 |
| kingair_six | or something like that | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | ok, I'll give you an easier way to do it | 03:01 |
| kingair_six | thx! | 03:01 |
| LaserJock | go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups | 03:02 |
| kingair_six | yep | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | hit "unlock" | 03:02 |
| kingair_six | k | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | then hit the "Manage Groups" button | 03:02 |
| kingair_six | alright, | 03:02 |
| LaserJock | that gives you a list of all the groups | 03:03 |
| kingair_six | yup | 03:03 |
| LaserJock | kingair_six: not sure if that'll help your Cd problem but that's the best way to mess with users and groups | 03:06 |
| kingair_six | oke, then i just add disk there? | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | no | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | find the disk group and hit Properties | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | then it'll give you a list of users that you can add to it | 03:09 |
| kingair_six | it is not in there though? | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | ok | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 03:10 |
| LaserJock | kingair_six: do you have a link for the reference that said to use the disk group? | 03:13 |
| kingair_six | nope, i'm sorry, was on a different computer | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | k | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | what error do you get with the "write to disc" method | 03:14 |
| LaserJock | ? | 03:14 |
| kingair_six | aehm, hang on a sec | 03:17 |
| kingair_si1 | alright, aehm | 03:18 |
| kingair_si1 | There was an error writing to the disc: | 03:19 |
| kingair_si1 | Could not run the necessary command: Failed to execute child process "wodim" (Permission denied) | 03:19 |
| kingair_si1 | alright, it just worked for the first time on a try with gnome baker or so, i gotta leave now, thank's for the help, appreciate this open community! | 03:22 |
| johnny | dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep gcc | 06:34 |
| johnny | nothin.. | 06:34 |
| * johnny looks for the old version | 06:34 | |
| johnny | hmm.. guess not.. | 06:45 |
| johnny | ok.. wrong place for that.. | 06:53 |
| johnny | must be a path issue somehow then | 06:53 |
| johnny | finally thought about the issue | 06:59 |
| johnny | where does ubuntu handle 32bit library path handling? | 06:59 |
| johnny | i see no /lib/32 in /etc/ld.so.conf | 07:00 |
| johnny | i don't have any other 64bit ubuntu installs to check with | 07:00 |
| johnny | oh.. looks like my updatedb wasn't cronned anymore.. | 07:16 |
| schregge | hi | 08:39 |
| === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| killsalad | hi all i've got a problem with ltsp-bulid-client it fails to complete and complains about lacks of package xubuntu-artwork-usplash | 14:04 |
| killsalad | any idea? | 14:04 |
| ogra | you ned to use --components main,restricted,universe with ltsp-build-client | 14:05 |
| ogra | xubuntu is built from universe now, ltsp only builds from main ackages by default | 14:05 |
| ogra | *packages | 14:06 |
| killsalad | ok i see | 14:06 |
| ogra | so: sudo ltsp-build-client --components main,restricted,universe | 14:06 |
| killsalad | ok - let's find out | 14:07 |
| killsalad | i've got another question : have somebody tested terminals running kde4 ? | 14:10 |
| ogra | why should that be any different from any other desktop ? | 14:11 |
| ogra | it runs on the server in a ssh session or with forwarded DISPLAY ... shouldn make a difference if you run kde 3 or 4 | 14:12 |
| killsalad | well i know that i only wondered if Kde4 is light enough | 14:14 |
| killsalad | at least compareble with Xfce | 14:15 |
| ogra | light/heavy will only affect your server | 14:16 |
| killsalad | i'm setting right now LTSP in some NGO - a lot of "voulonteers" are working on therminals and i want to give them the best impression about Linux | 14:16 |
| ogra | not the clients ... | 14:16 |
| ogra | so if your server is capable of handling kde4 sessions for every user that should be any issue | 14:17 |
| ogra | *shouldnt | 14:17 |
| killsalad | hm what is capable - it's pentium D 2.8 and 2 GB ram | 14:18 |
| killsalad | thanks for advice - about ltsp-build-clients it worked | 14:19 |
| ogra | general rule for an ubuntu desktop: 256M for running the server plus 128M for every running session | 14:19 |
| ogra | do the math :) | 14:19 |
| killsalad | hm i've got 5 termials | 14:19 |
| ogra | then you have a good buffer :) | 14:20 |
| killsalad | ;) | 14:20 |
| killsalad | ok just one more question | 14:20 |
| killsalad | i've got a printer pluged to terminal it's often 'gets down' and it is nessesery to reboot terminal | 14:21 |
| killsalad | is it mine's issue or is it LTSP wide ? | 14:21 |
| ogra | how much ram does the client have ? | 14:22 |
| killsalad | 128 | 14:22 |
| killsalad | all cilents have 128 (dell GX1) | 14:23 |
| ogra | hmm, should actually be enough | 14:24 |
| ogra | which release are you using ? | 14:24 |
| killsalad | right now none ;) previously 7.10 | 14:25 |
| ogra | none ? | 14:25 |
| killsalad | today i've upgraded server to 2GB Ram and bigger drive | 14:25 |
| ogra | on what are you running ltsp-build-client atm ?= | 14:26 |
| killsalad | 8.04 | 14:26 |
| killsalad | problem was in 6.10 - 7.10 | 14:26 |
| ogra | there were some fixes ... | 14:26 |
| ogra | but also one bug in 8.04 with printing | 14:26 |
| ogra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/224259 | 14:27 |
| killsalad | ok - to set a printer i edit lts.conf and add an ipp printer ? | 14:28 |
| ogra | that will affect you as well (workaround included) | 14:28 |
| ogra | no, ltsp uses HP Jetdirect | 14:28 |
| ogra | you set PRINTER_0_DEVICE to point to the lp device in lts.conf | 14:29 |
| killsalad | silly me (i mean JD) | 14:29 |
| ogra | and in the users session set up a jetdirect printer pointing to the client IP | 14:29 |
| killsalad | so like in LTSP 4.x | 14:30 |
| ogra | well | 14:31 |
| ogra | you only need one option in lts.conf | 14:31 |
| ogra | in 4.2 you needed a whole bunch | 14:31 |
| ogra | but beyond that, yes | 14:31 |
| ogra | (i'm planning to get rid of the last option as well btw :) and automate it through udev if a printer is detected ) | 14:32 |
| killsalad | it were nicer if it all was transparent to admin - just plug printer and serwer detects it ;) | 14:33 |
| ogra | right | 14:34 |
| ogra | we'll get there :) | 14:34 |
| ogra | just takes development time | 14:34 |
| killsalad | how about local media - is any progres in this area | 14:34 |
| ogra | only small changes in comparison to 7.10 | 14:35 |
| killsalad | my dummies ;) are confused when i told them you have to go to /media/[username]/drive | 14:35 |
| ogra | well, gnome handles it fine | 14:36 |
| killsalad | how about xfce? | 14:36 |
| ogra | if you would use nautilus instead of thunar :) | 14:36 |
| ogra | whatever thunar uses in the backend doesnt monitor /media | 14:36 |
| ogra | but the ltspfsmounter script is a trivial little python thing, it should be easy to add two lines to put links on the user desktops on plug and remove them accordingly | 14:37 |
| ogra | its just nothing we'D ever do my default (putting links on desktops) | 14:38 |
| killsalad | hm - i konw a python | 14:38 |
| killsalad | where can i find ltspfsmounter | 14:39 |
| killsalad | ? | 14:39 |
| ogra | /usr/sbin/ltspfsmounter | 14:40 |
| ogra | on the server | 14:40 |
| killsalad | thx | 14:40 |
| killsalad | well i would like to contribute to ltsp in ubuntu but i'm only fluent in python and php | 14:41 |
| killsalad | is there something that i can do | 14:42 |
| killsalad | with such skils? | 14:42 |
| ogra | there are three functions, add remove and cleanup ... removoe the links in cleanup and remove, add a link in add :) | 14:42 |
| ogra | python is fine :) | 14:42 |
| ogra | we dont really do php anywhere | 14:42 |
| stgraber | some shell scripting knowledges would probably also help | 14:42 |
| ogra | indeed | 14:42 |
| ogra | but there is nothing in a shellscript you couldnt also do with py ;) | 14:43 |
| stgraber | indeed | 14:44 |
| killsalad | stgraber: in theory i also know C,C++, Java ;) but i've never wrote somthing bigger than excercise on classes | 14:47 |
| stgraber | LTSP also has some part written in C (jetpipe and ldm IIRC) but most of it is shell scripts and some python scripts | 14:48 |
| ogra | jetpipe is still python | 14:48 |
| killsalad | ok - a general question has E/K/X/Ubuntu any gui-tool that allows user to change their password | 14:48 |
| stgraber | killsalad: yep | 14:48 |
| ogra | and i dont really want to change it, C would add extra complexity | 14:48 |
| stgraber | System -> Preferences -> About Me | 14:48 |
| killsalad | stgraber: not present in Xubuntu | 14:49 |
| stgraber | that's in gnome, so Ubuntu and Edubuntu | 14:50 |
| stgraber | Kubuntu probably has something similar, not sure about Xubuntu | 14:50 |
| killsalad | ok - it seams that user manager is capable | 14:55 |
| * ogra sighs about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FirewallConfiguration | 15:01 | |
| killsalad | hm i was wandering if it could be possible to have one guest account with ability to multile login | 15:15 |
| ogra | technically yes | 15:21 |
| ogra | but none of the desktops likes that | 15:21 |
| killsalad | yeah | 15:21 |
| ogra | nor firefox or openoffice | 15:21 |
| stgraber | you would need some kind of temporary home directory that would copy the main one /home/xyz to something like /tmp/xyz.pid. But then changes would be dropped when closing the session. | 15:49 |
| highvoltage | hey LaserJock | 17:51 |
| scrapbunnyserver | does anyone have suggestions of the best apps/games to run on thin clients for 1st-5th grade? | 18:27 |
| scrapbunnyserver | anyone here running edubuntu classroom server? | 20:37 |
| johnny | i tend to just call that ltsp :) | 20:38 |
| scrapbunnyserver | as i think you are on the ltsp channel too, i'm looking for recommendations of games or websites that run well on thin clients | 20:41 |
| johnny | it all depends on your network | 20:43 |
| scrapbunnyserver | i am working on getting more memory but for now we have a dell poweredge with dual core intel xeon 2.40 ghz processors and 3 gig memory. clients are dell gx110 with 128 ram | 20:46 |
| johnny | and the network? | 20:46 |
| johnny | i found out recently that our switch has gigabit uplink | 20:47 |
| johnny | when i have time to move things around.. i'll see if it makes any real difference | 20:47 |
| scrapbunnyserver | we have T1 lines and use a gig switch | 20:48 |
| scrapbunnyserver | think that is right, the recommended switch for ltsp | 20:49 |
| tw33k | Hello | 23:29 |
| tw33k | Anyone available to answer an error question about ubuntu 8.4 AMD64 ? I'm a new user | 23:30 |
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