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tjaaltonugh, my stomach..06:38
brycetjaalton: :-)07:52
tjaaltongetting better ;)07:53
tjaaltonbut I had to skip breakfast07:53
brycebetter have plenty of water07:54
tjaaltonyeah07:54
bryceI think the openweek session went well, lots of good questions07:57
brycenot yet evidence of new contributors, but of course there's lots of time yet07:58
tjaaltonI lurked there for a while07:59
tjaaltonbut was feeling a bit tired, so didn't raise my voice08:02
bryceno prob, hopefully I didn't get anything too wrong08:02
tjaaltonI'll check the logs now :)08:03
tjaaltonthe OneSecondX fixes should be in xserver 1.508:05
tjaaltonat least some of them08:05
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bryceheya Q-FUNK08:33
Q-FUNKhey08:33
Q-FUNKbryce: what's up? :)08:34
bryceQ-FUNK: at the moment working on prepping an sru for some -intel quirks, and rebuilding my dev box08:35
Q-FUNKok08:35
Q-FUNKany news on merging the PCI ID patch to add support for "geode" ?08:36
bryceQ-FUNK: hey btw Marc Tardif mentioned that maddog was very pleased with how things turned out with geode08:36
bryce"This is all thanks to the combined efforts08:36
bryceof David Bensimon, Bryce Harrington and Martin-Éric Racine."08:36
Q-FUNKbryce: obviously he was.  they made poor Jordan jumpt through hoops to produce a libDDC patch overnight.08:36
Q-FUNK(or well, maddog did, when he pressured AMD's VP)08:37
tjaaltonQ-FUNK: the patch is waiting in git08:37
Q-FUNKbtw, I finally reached an agreement with Jordan to release that patch as a new upstream, if we need to, to really close this issue.08:37
Q-FUNK(the libDDC patch)08:38
brycecool08:38
Q-FUNKmy question to you both:  which one would be more acceptable as an SRU:  running autoconf ourselves on a patched 2.8.0 or having upstream do that for us on what we would call 2.9.0 ?08:39
brycewhat would running autoconf attain?08:39
Q-FUNKwe need to regenerate the symbols to get the build to take into consideration a new geode_ddc.c 08:40
bryceok, what does the new geode_ddc.c do?08:41
Q-FUNKdoing this ourselves on a home-patched 2.8.0 produces a pointlessly huge diff, just for the new config.sub & co08:41
bryceright08:41
Q-FUNKit replaces reliance upon BIOS environment to produce EDID with the X.org libddc that performs the same in a BIOS-free way. it's what fixes it for Koolu.08:42
bryceif it can wait until 8.04.1 I think that sounds like it'd give decent justification for 2.9.0; assuming that 2.9.0 is mostly bug fix (and maybe reasonably safe/lightweight feature work)08:42
Q-FUNKwe'd only bump the minor because we replaced code segments with a different implementation.  basically, 2.9.0 would indeed be applying that libDDC patch that's already attached to the bug, then doing autoreconf08:44
Q-FUNKand that's all08:44
Q-FUNKwe'd move the goal to complete OLPC integration to the next upstream08:45
Q-FUNKbut then that would be for intrepid08:45
brycethen it sounds like getting 2.9.0 in for 8.04.1 should be pretty straightforward08:45
brycegetting it SRU'd though would probably be a challenge... they seem to prefer individual patches (and small ones), however the fix sounds quite appropriate in scope08:45
Q-FUNKwell, either we run autoconf or upstream does.  in either case, the code change itself is only that patch.08:46
brycesru'ing the autoconf changes on the current 2.8.0 -amd would probably be a decent place to start.  If the RM's balk at that, offering a packaged 2.9.0 would be a good fallback08:47
bryceworst case, we could probably fish out the exact Makefile.in changes needed to make the thing work.08:47
brycemaybe if we can show clearly that 2.9.0 is strictly just the one patch, the RM's would be amenable to that08:48
Q-FUNKhm... we'd need several Makefile.in, actually08:58
Q-FUNKand then if any moro decides to build from source, he'd have an out of sync Makefile.am and aclocal.m408:59
bryceif we have to patch Makefile.in(s) individually, we'd need corresponding Makefile.am changes.  I've done this before; it's a lot of work and quite error prone.  09:04
bryceimho better to have a huge autoconf patch than take the risk of hand-crafted Makefile.[am|in] fixups, but whatever gets the job done I guess09:05
Q-FUNKI wouldn't take a risk with cherry picking files from an autoreconf. we really need to take the whole change as a lot.09:11
Q-FUNKbtw, if you want to compare a pristine 2.8.0 with one that has autoreconf, debian has a +git release09:11
Q-FUNKI used the libtool, autoconf and automake from Hardy to produce it09:13
Q-FUNKadded as comment to the bug09:43
Q-FUNKbryce: btw, where did this message by Marc pop out?09:44
Q-FUNKtjaalton: is the comming for the geode PCI ID made as "geode" or "amd" ?09:45
Q-FUNKtjaalton: upstream and I would prefer "geode"09:46
bryceheya james_w09:49
bryceQ-FUNK: was a private email09:49
james_whi bryce 09:49
james_whow are you?09:49
brycejames_w: doing good.  you?09:49
james_wgood thanks09:49
tjaaltonQ-FUNK: geode09:52
Q-FUNKbryce: ok.  it's at least good to know that my efforts are appreciated.10:01
bryceQ-FUNK: I'll forward you the entire email10:06
Q-FUNKah, that would be nice.  thanks! :)10:07
brycesent10:17
Q-FUNKpretty nice email indeed10:17

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