[00:26] <nosrednaekim> is the kross scripting stuff for 4.0.3 packaged and in the repositories?
[00:27] <nosrednaekim> specifically, the python plasma bindings
[00:31] <Riddell> we have libkrosspython0
[00:31] <Riddell> from kdebindings-kde4
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> awesome... thanks.
[00:46] <ScottK> nixternal: You find out if your upload worked our not yet.
[00:49] <Riddell> kde4libs, kdepimlibs, kdebase-kde4 in hardy-backports unapproved queue
[00:50] <ScottK> Cool.
[00:50] <ScottK> I guess MOTU's can upload backports now.
[00:50] <Riddell> well i think the policy is still that they shouldn't without checking with someone first
[00:50] <Riddell> and they can only upload universe packages
[00:51] <ScottK> Any backport still needs an ack from ubuntu-backporters.
[00:51] <Riddell> right
[00:51] <ScottK> So I think that would be the checking part.
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> I don't think libkrosspython0 has the plasma bindings..
[02:35] <Riddell> quite possibly they didn't exist in 4.0 branch
[02:36]  * Riddell snoozes
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> hum, ok
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> ok, I guess I'll have to go compile trunk :)
[04:29] <nixternal> ouch
[04:30] <nixternal> have up to kdebase-runtime completed, installed, and uploaded (uploading kdebase-runtime now)
[04:30] <nixternal> I am hoping that after installing kdebase-workspace, my lappy will be a bit more usable..right now I have a badly broken kde4
[04:42] <genii> There a 4.1 alpha1 available?
[04:42] <nixternal> nope
[04:42] <nixternal> 4.1 alpha1 is very very broken due to plasma
[04:42] <genii> Ah, OK
[04:42] <nixternal> it is constantly crashing on me
[05:55] <nixternal> 4.0.4 isn't much different from 4.0.3 that I can see
[05:55]  * nixternal gets back to building
[05:56] <Jucato> hi nixternal! :)
[05:56] <Jucato> Kubuntu (or generally Ubuntu) failed me/us last night :)
[05:57] <nixternal> howdy Jucato!
[05:57] <nixternal> what happened?
[05:57] <Jucato> imagine an Ubuntu release party where only Windows and Fedora could get connected to the Internet :)
[05:57] <dthacker> :(
[05:58] <Jucato> yeah. :(
[05:58] <Jucato> but it was funny though
[05:58] <nixternal> well, I experienced similar, but Okular saved me
[05:58] <nixternal> Fedora and windows worked great with the projector, but Kubuntu didn't
[05:59] <nixternal> luckily Okular centers itself and works perfectly with the projector
[05:59] <nixternal> so nothing was cut off
[05:59] <Jucato> :D
[05:59] <nixternal> I have never had an issue connecting to the internet though
[05:59] <Jucato> we were all laughing out load in the coffee shop... I was shouting "Linux sucks!", but then one guy tried Fedora KDE and he got connected, so I changed to "Kubuntu sucks!", then the other guys who had Ubuntu couldn't connect either... :)
[05:59] <nixternal> it has always worked
[05:59] <nixternal> *buntu sucks! :p
[06:00] <Jucato> yeah hahah :)
[06:00] <Jucato> it was a funny release party :)
[06:00] <Jucato> we had no pressed cd's (they haven't arrived yet), had no beer, almost had no internet connection, and weren't using Ubuntu to connect :)
[06:01] <nixternal> oh wow, compositing seems whicked fast with 4.0.4 using Intel
[06:01] <nixternal> it is instant!
[06:01] <nixternal> and it looks secksi
[06:01] <Jucato> yeah
[06:01] <nixternal> and I think we should consider using the Sculpture theme for KDE 4 cuz it is even hotter!
[06:01] <Jucato> my laptop's Intel IGP beats my desktop's nvidia AGP :)
[06:02]  * Jucato hasn't scene sculpture
[06:02] <nixternal> functionality wise, 4.0.3 == 4.0.4 from what i can see
[06:02]  * Jucato lost track of 4.0...
[06:03] <nixternal> I had to wipe ~/.kde4 though cuz something booged up
[06:04] <nixternal> probably just needed to wipe ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*
[06:04] <Jucato> kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma
[06:04] <Jucato> :D
[06:08] <nixternal> now it is time to build all of the modules, which luckily stdin already did, just need to test them and upload
[06:08] <nixternal> plasma panel is still goofy in 4.0.4 with the size issue
[06:09] <nixternal> if you use tiny, the bottom of the plasma panel will show up at the top of your screen
[06:27]  * Jucato goes to bed.. tired .. :/
[06:27] <Jucato> good luck nixternal :P
[06:27] <nixternal> g'nite
[06:41] <nixternal> stdin: you rock! you are a life saver, but I am going to quit uploading after kdeartwork for the night and will pick it back up and finish the entire kde 4.0.4 backport for hardy tomorrow/today
[06:49] <Hobbsee> oh goody.
[06:49] <Hobbsee> don't insert crack.
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Or insert in teh crack
[06:51] <nixternal> ooh
[07:23] <robotgeek> nixternal: hopefully in summer, i can start coding some on kde4
[07:29] <DaSkreech> hi Hobbsee
[07:30] <Hobbsee> heya!
[07:30] <DaSkreech> does anyone know if KIOSK is getting KDE4 love?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> how are you Hobbsee ?
[07:41] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: sad @ LP
[07:41] <Hobbsee> [16:40] <Hobbsee> the launchpad gods do not smile on me :([16:41] <Hobbsee> 2 hours since the upload, and still no build records
[07:41] <Hobbsee> [16:41] * Hobbsee tries sacrificing a pony
[07:42] <DaSkreech> OMG Poniez?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> What about the goldenHorse?
[07:49] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[07:49] <Hobbsee> might have to try that
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Or the stick :)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> sacrifice that
[07:49] <Hobbsee> no wya.
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Way!
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Now I'm going to be labeled an infidel :(
[07:50] <DaSkreech> ok I need sleep
[07:50] <DaSkreech> I thought that said ubuttu
[07:51] <Hobbsee> heh
[07:52] <DaSkreech> supyboy need a remind plugin
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I should start writing one
[07:55]  * DaSkreech sits next to Hobbsee 
[07:55] <DaSkreech> So what have you been up to
[07:55] <DaSkreech> how did that assignment go?
[07:55] <Hobbsee> work, uni, assignments, etc.
[07:55]  * Hobbsee has done part of t
[08:00] <DaSkreech> How's Gnome?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> fine
[08:01] <Hobbsee> seems to work
[08:02] <nixternal> Hobbsee: have you checked out Tasque yet that I packaged for Gnome?
[08:02] <Hobbsee> nixternal: nope
[08:03] <nixternal> it is groovy
[08:03] <nixternal> https://launchpad.net/~tasque-packagers
[08:03] <nixternal> I am using it now on my Debian box
[08:09]  * nixternal beds
[08:09] <nixternal> g'nite
[08:10] <DaSkreech> Night
[08:10] <DaSkreech> I'll follow behind
[08:30] <Serega> morning
[08:30]  * Serega yaws
[08:54] <Hobbsee> nixternal: that's cool.  are you using the RTM plugin?
[11:03] <mhb> hmm, is this meeting thing taking place today?
[11:04] <mhb> I guess not.
[11:47] <mhb> apachelogger: nobody came
[12:01] <apachelogger> mhb: apparently, I also got stuck in a traffic jam :(
[12:03] <mhb> apachelogger: that's one of the bigger disappointments I encountered here
[12:03] <apachelogger> hm
[12:03] <mhb> apachelogger: really, waiting an hour, hurrying with lunch so I can get here on time
[12:03] <mhb> and then nobody comes
[12:03] <apachelogger> mhb: yeah, sorry for that
[12:04] <mhb> apachelogger: not your fault :o)
[12:04] <apachelogger> oh well, I announced the meeting, so it is partly my fault
[12:07] <mhb> I hope it won't be the same at UDS :o)
[12:08] <mhb> the last week of school is kind of important to me, so I wouldn't want to waste it for no reason
[12:18] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, meeting.
[12:18] <Hobbsee> i doubt Riddell's around
[16:38] <jpatrick> future Kubuntu MOTU spotted
[16:39] <smarter> hey jpatrick
[16:40] <jpatrick> hey there smarter
[16:41] <smarter> how are you?
[16:42]  * smarter really hates his ISP router
[16:43] <jpatrick> not too bad
[16:56] <Arby> jpatrick: really where?
[17:24] <nixternal> mornin'
[17:24] <nixternal> so I didn't miss the meeting it seems
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> was there not one?
[17:25] <nixternal> it seems nobody showed up
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> ah
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> too early I guess
[17:25] <nixternal> to early for me :)
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> and me :)
[17:26]  * claydoh forgot to wake up himself : :(
[17:26] <nixternal> hehe
[17:27] <claydoh> I have this ugly internal alarm in my brain that wakes me up almost exactly 30 mins before my al;arm goes off
[17:27] <apachelogger> lol, good thing I got stuck in the traffic jam then
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> claydoh: lol.... me too!
[17:27] <claydoh> but I forgot abouth the meeting, actually, so I didn't wake up
[20:43]  * yuriy is loving kmail right now
[21:08] <smarter> is someone working on packaging 4.0.4 for hardy PPA?
[21:09] <guaqua> i believe so, nixternal et al might now more
[21:30] <apachelogger> smarter: secret
[21:31] <apachelogger> they will go to hardy-backports though
[21:31] <smarter> apachelogger: ok, just searching for something to do ;)
[21:31] <apachelogger> smarter: kde-apps.org ;-)
[21:33] <Riddell> there's extragear apps for 4.0.4 to be done
[21:33] <Riddell> and there's merges to do
[21:33]  * smarter will look into that
[21:33] <smarter> when do we start the 4.1 fun?
[21:47] <Arby> Riddell: mind if I attempt the merge on koffice? or are you doing it?
[21:57] <Riddell> Arby: go for it
[21:57] <Arby> Riddell: there's a conflict in krita.install that I don't understand
[21:58] <Arby> what is that file supposed to do?
[22:02] <stdin> the .install has a list of all the files that go into that package (are installed by that package)
[22:02] <nosrednaekim> whew... maybe i'll do a kubuntu/kde related openweek talk next time... that was rather fun :)
[22:03]  * apachelogger is changing project neon's versioning for the 3rd time
[22:03] <Arby> stdin: thanks, lets see if I've got this right.
[22:03] <Arby> the diff is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9822/
[22:03] <Arby> so I've edited the file so that each line only appears once
[22:04] <Arby> is that correct
[22:04]  * seele blinks
[22:04] <seele> it's the weekend right?
[22:04] <seele> and Riddell is on IRC?
[22:05] <nosrednaekim> our dear robot knows no holiday :)
[22:10] <Riddell> hi seele
[22:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: I guess 20080503+svn803682-0amarok1 would be the best versioning for nightly snapshots?
[22:11] <nosrednaekim> apachelogger: ooh... nightly snaptshots of amarok? :)
[22:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ping
[22:11]  * nosrednaekim drools
[22:11] <Nightrose> apachelogger: pong
[22:11] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/img082.png
[22:11] <apachelogger> Nightrose: we are needing a news
[22:11] <Nightrose> for neon?
[22:12] <Nightrose> and when?
[22:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: that seems to miss the actual version number, and includes two snapshot numbers
[22:12] <Riddell> seele: aren't I normally?
[22:13] <apachelogger> Riddell: the idea is to have ongoing snapshots completely unrelated to the actual application version
[22:13] <apachelogger> Nightrose: yes, tomorrow
[22:14] <Nightrose> apachelogger: alright let's get on it tomorrow morning on skype?
[22:14] <apachelogger> can't
[22:14] <apachelogger> I have a super important french test on monday
[22:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: people will have to remove the normal ones first then, which would cause unhappyness for libraries
[22:14] <apachelogger> uhh, that is the tricky part about neon ;-)
[22:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://edge.launchpad.net/~project-neon/+archive
[22:14] <apachelogger> all files go to /opt/amarok-nightly
[22:15] <Nightrose> apachelogger: ah ok - then I will get on it tomorrow - can you write down a few important point that need to be mentioned?
[22:15] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ubuntu, suse on the roll, nightly snapshots, useable along the stable version
[22:15] <Nightrose> ;-) thx
[22:15] <stdin> apachelogger: what? no "DO NOT REPORT BUGS" messages in big red letters? ;)
[22:16] <apachelogger> stdin: to much work to maintain
[22:16] <apachelogger> everything is based on the idea of doing as little maintenance as possible
[22:16] <stdin> aww, it was my favourite feature :p
[22:16] <apachelogger> well, I made it
[22:16] <apachelogger> so it has to be your favourite
[22:17] <stdin> if it plays music without crashing then I'll get over it
[22:17] <apachelogger> it crashes at shutdown ;-)
[22:17] <stdin> you shutdown amarok? what ever for?
[22:18] <stdin> it lives in my system tray constantly
[22:19] <apachelogger> ^_^
[22:19] <stdin> and now my multimedia-play/stop/forward/back buttons work I hardy need to open it except to add files to the playlist and gawk at it's GUI :D
[22:19]  * nosrednaekim is comforted by the wolf living in his panel
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> except when Amor langs on him
[22:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: seems fair enough then
[22:32] <apachelogger> ok, thanks
[23:00] <crimsun> nosrednaekim: bad timing, actually.  I just got off a train.  (From backscroll, however, things seem to have gone smoothly.)
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> crimsun: yeah.. it was cool :)
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> and I pointed them to the wiki for more info