[00:18] do you mean completely remove Xubuntu? [00:32] Hello [00:32] anyone know how to get midi to work with gstreamer? [00:32] Hello. i'm using xubuntu 8.04 on a freshly installed system, and [00:32] Code: [00:32] glxinfo |grep direct [00:32] shows that i do not have direct rendering on. [00:32] Does anyone know how to fix it? I know I had direct rendering on the last version of xubuntu. glxgears also has a very slow framerate (unbearably slow) [00:33] sp219, install nvidia-glx [00:33] it's an intel card [00:33] intel 915 [00:33] fairly old [00:33] but worked outstandingly on the last version [00:34] Any ideas? [00:34] not that skilled with linux drivers yet [00:34] i heard something about it may having to do with "mesa" [00:35] nvr had intel card so dont know sorry [00:43] hi, i downloaded the hardy 8.04 thru torrent, md5 sum is correct but when trying to install in virtual machine it says some files are corrupted.... does anyone had any similar problems? [00:45] does this take place when booting from the Live CD? [00:48] nickellery: no i dont want to remove xfce completely, i just want to take a look at the fluxbox windowmanager [00:49] Seeeb: sorry, what was the matter? You want to test out fluxbox on the Live CD? [00:50] nope [00:50] i have a running xubuntu right now [00:50] and tomorrow i want to reinstall to hardy [00:50] but until then, i want to try another windowmanager [00:51] so i want to install fluxbox, then shut down xfce and run fluxbox [00:51] :) [00:51] So do you want fluxbox to take over the entire HDD? [00:52] mhh, what do you mean ? [00:52] ok... do you currently ahve Xubuntu installed on your entire Harddrive, or are you dual-booting with another operating system [00:53] dual booting [00:53] i also have winxp [00:54] ok, so you want to keep Xubuntu, XP, and install fluxbuntu as well? [00:55] yes [00:56] what [00:56] fluxbuntu? [00:56] =D [00:56] nickellery: sorry from the late reply, i was intalling it from an alternate cd, "installation failed" [00:56] i thought fluxbox was just a windowmanager !? [00:56] like kde/gnome [00:56] not a whole system [00:56] ooh HUGE apologies [00:57] I misread, and thought you said fluxbuntu, which is a Ubuntu derivative [00:57] :-o [00:57] np [00:57] :) [00:57] So lets start from the beginning [00:58] well, i just need to know howto shut down xfce [00:58] so i can run fluxbox [00:58] =) [00:59] have you installed fluxbox yet? [00:59] nop [01:00] Try to install fluxbox, and see if it overwrites [01:01] i dont think so :p [01:01] and i hope not! [01:02] well, you have to install fluxbox in order to use it [01:24] how do you people easily deal with xfce and samba servers? [02:39] how can I change the window manager in xfce? For some reason it is now using metacity , how can I change it back to the default ? [02:43] settings manager -> "workspace / interface -settings" -> let xfce control... [02:43] ah [02:43] xd [03:48] why is it that unmounting drives in thunar still fails to work [03:48] in hardy [03:54] oh my god [03:54] ubuntu forums search interface is HORRIBLE [05:01] will xubuntu run on a pentium mmx computer? [06:04] Hi, I'm building a nice little Xubuntu laptop for a release party tommorrow. Anything I should absolutely make sure i install? [06:09] how would i go about diagnosing why my sound card doesn't work [06:30] hey guys [06:30] or peeps [06:30] lol [06:30] umm well i'm trying to copy some files from windows into a linux shared folder [06:30] but everytime i do [06:30] it wont let me [06:31] like it's firewalled or wont let anything in === S0210 is now known as Salix === Salix is now known as S0210 [06:43] 1 2 1 2 [06:43] khm hello [07:05] what's the fs on the linux folder? [07:06] what package does totem need to play DVD's? [07:07] !dvd [07:27] Hi. What to do if I get "Translation setup needed" message at the translation.launchpad.net? (For xfce4-session to be specific.) Who can do that? [07:37] Volkodav_, if you are thinking about file system then it is usually ext3, but it depends what you choose when you install system. [07:38] dthacker, Play DVD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs?highlight=%28DVD%29 [08:10] USB memory access on 8.04 amd64 is buggy [08:10] second time i insert my usb memory, it locks itself in some state un-defined [08:11] not mounted, not umounted [08:11] floating unusable, [08:17] can anyone tell me why i cant have a static ip on xubuntu 8.04 ? it keeps on changing to roaming mode and even stranger , it adds another eth , i only have one nic but since i have rebooted twice i now find miself with eth2 !! any ideas ? [08:20] how many notwork cards do you have? [08:20] did you select static ip during install? [08:20] nikolam, 1 [08:20] it was an upgrade from 7.10 [08:22] ifconfig? [08:22] where can i paste the output ? [08:23] hm look at the System>Network app first [08:24] I used to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ but i am not shure if it is working now [08:24] its activated as roaming [08:24] !pastebin [08:25] heh you can change it now. Is it ok now? [08:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/ seems to be working for pastebin [08:32] nikolam, it didnt change and i now have eth3 [08:32] :) [08:33] Wow :) [08:33] Did you open System>Network applet? [08:34] unlock it and set it [08:34] yep [08:34] yep [08:34] and? :) [08:35] it didnt change anything, after i rebooted it changed to eth3 and dinamic ip [08:36] changed the /etc/network/interfaces [08:36] rebbot again [08:36] :) [08:39] ahh nice. Now it is ok? [08:41] found it i think [08:41] its a kernel bug [08:41] it says my nic as an incorrect mac address [08:44] ah what nic it is? [08:45] wait a sec [08:45] dont know [08:45] :( [08:46] how can i see it ? [08:49] where is the error [08:49] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: Invalid Mac address detected: 29:94:e4:8f:13:00 [08:49] [ 18.172624] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: Please complain to your hardware vendor. Switching to a random MAC. [08:49] [ 18.692356] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x20 @ 1, addr 00:00:6c:38:64:5f [08:49] [ 18.692363] forcedeth 0000:00:07.0: highdma pwrctl mgmt timirq lnktim msi desc-v3 [08:53] i think i heard that there is a way to change a mac adress. When i was reading about some witreless networks [08:53] But I would consider that Nic is broken [08:54] is it integrater Nic on motherboard? [09:21] I need help. I use Xubuntu for one week, and a search to change layout of my keyboard. I can't type others symbols with Alt or Alt+Shift :-/ [10:31] Hello [10:31] I cannot play DVD. whats the thing which I need to install in order to play DVD? [10:34] Addana: http://doc.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/video.html ? [11:04] console is terminal right? [11:04] yes [11:07] Does anyone know, why the xubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386-CD installs totem-gstreamer and not totem-xine (like 7.10) while the metapackage xubuntu-restricted-extras only adds multimedia-support for the xine-engine? [11:08] hey thanks guys, it did work [11:15] how do i make a shortcut to open terminal? what do i put as the script/binary [11:35] xfce4-terminal [11:38] he left floating [12:51] hey, is there a way to save my XFCE settings when i want to delete xubuntu& install hardy ? [12:51] which files do i have to backup :) [13:20] Seeeb: well, you get far with just copying your home folder [14:01] yeah, ill do that totalwormface :-) [14:01] good [14:01] :P [14:24] Hey. the master volume of my system is so low. How can I increase the master volume? [14:26] add the soundvolume control button to your bar and use it [14:26] :) [14:28] anyone around? === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === andy is now known as RedLineCity [14:37] Hi [14:38] Is there anyone? [14:38] Hi [14:38] Great, seems like it's working [14:41] Is there anyone who could help me out and tell me if it's possible to use xubuntu to create a backup server that will automatically switch on network workstations, do a backup of the documents, switch off the workstations when finished. I am looking to make the backups nightly while nobody is in the office and write those backup on a RAID5 for speed and security. [14:42] Most workstations are running Windows XP Pro apart a couple using Windows XP Home that will be updated to Windows XP Pro. All I need to know is Is it possible or should I find another solution? [14:44] Minor question about the basic nature of Ubuntu: If I have Ubuntu installed, complete with Grub, and I have Xubuntu installed on a flash drive, complete with Grub, does the computer get confused with two Ubuntu kernels present? [14:44] Before I installed Ubuntu to the hard drive, Xubuntu ran from the flash drive. [14:47] good question - did you have the flash drive in when you installed to the hard disk? [14:48] No [14:49] so it would come down to which is called first in the bios then I would think [14:49] Flash drive is. When I boot from flash drive, it comes up alright. But when I try to select an os it gives me an error message. [14:49] Error 17, whichever that is. [14:53] when you select an os it gives an error - with which grub? [14:53] In Grub, from the flash drive [14:53] When I boot from the flash drive, Grub boots from the flash drive. It comes up with the Xubuntu I installed to the flash drive, and Windows and Ubuntu on the hard drive. [14:54] And it specifies that Windows and Ubuntu are on a drive other than Grub's home drive [14:54] But when I try to select any OS, it gives me error 17 and reboots. [14:56] Hey. the master volume of my system is so low. How can I increase the master volume? [14:57] Should be an icon in the top right corner. [14:57] wolfwalker: you said the flash drive wasn't in when you installed ubuntu to the hard drive? [14:57] No [14:58] wolfwalker: then it shouldn't show in the grub from the flash [14:58] ere4si, sorry theres no icon in top corner which has anything to do with volume :( [14:58] Case history: Installed Windows on the hard drive. Installed Ubuntu on the hard drive. Installed Xubuntu on the flash drive. [14:59] When I installed Ubuntu, flash drive wasn't connected. When I installed Xubuntu grub was installed on the flash drive. [15:00] RedLineCity: right click the panel - select add to panel - install volume applet maybe? [15:00] The grub on my hard drive still works fine, I can boot into Windows and Ubuntu. [15:01] wolfwalker: while installing xubuntu to the flash you had a choice of where to put grub - where did you put it? [15:01] On the flash drive. [15:02] In step seven of the pre-fab installer routine, hit Advanced Options and select to install Grub to the flash drive. [15:03] And grub does in fact come up, and it is the grub from the flash drive, because it notes Windows and Ubuntu are on a disk other than that Grub's home disk (the flash drive) [15:03] thanks ere4si, that helped :) [15:04] RedLineCity: great :) [15:05] wolfwalker: did you follow a guide for booting linux from flash - e.g. - http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-a-flash-drive-245087.php [15:05] I went to pen drive linux [15:06] I think the prob is that the other partitions aren't recognized by the flash's grub [15:06] error 17 and all... [15:07] It wouldn't load Xubuntu from its home drive (the flash drive) either. [15:12] wolfwalker: compare boot/menu.lst files of both sides, mostly some drive enumeration issue [15:13] * /boot/grub/menu.lst [15:14] pen drive isn't for multiple boots unles I'm outdated [15:15] can someone tell me how to stop xfce, so that i can run fluxbox that ive just installed? :) [15:16] Seeeb: you select flux from the login - sessions [15:17] ere4si: well ok, but isnt there a textbased way todo this ? [15:19] Seeeb: you need to restart x to start a new window manager for a simple explanation - ctrl_alt+bksp [15:20] yes i know [15:20] but ctrl alt and backspace restart xfce [15:20] it doesnt shut it down, does it ? [15:21] isnt there a way to to the opposite of "startx" or "xfce4" [15:22] Seeeb: xfce4 does not start until you login. It's GDM that asks for username, password, not xfce. [15:23] ahhh [15:23] ok :] [15:23] thanks then [15:23] ctrl+alt+bksp takes you to the login - there is a session option there that will let you select flux as the window manager [15:23] okok [15:23] now i understand [15:23] k [15:24] just because im interested in it: how would i stop X if i wanted to? [15:24] Seeeb: in flux right click the desktop for a menu [15:24] and in xfce ? [15:24] /etc/init.d/gdm stop perhaps [15:25] ok!! [15:25] big thanks dude [15:25] :) [15:32] Hello everyone! I'm still wondering, why the xubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386-CD installs totem-gstreamer and not totem-xine. I thought xine is the peferred backend in Xubuntu. Does anyone know anything about that? [15:33] I thought there was an option to use either [15:34] chirlu: it was the same in 7.10... [15:35] I didn't see any option while installing. With 7.10 I had totem-xine installed automatically. [15:38] chirlu: I haven't used it in a while but in edit-preferences I think is the option t use xine [15:38] *to [15:42] Well, I could just change it with 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine', but I would like to know, If there is any advantage in using totem-gstreamer. [15:45] I think gstreamer has better support but that isn't based on hard facts [15:48] I'm just wondering, if it is purposed for any reason or just forgotten to change from ubuntu 8.04. [15:58] The xubuntu-restricted-extras don't include anything for gstreamer but libxine1-ffmpeg. That makes me believe, xine is still the preferred backend in xubuntu. Well, I will try and see. Thanks for answering. [15:58] hi [15:59] !hi [16:00] bots still not working then... [16:00] i'm currently using xfce on xubuntu and i would like to get the alt+f2 behavior work like xfce on debian. does anyone could help me please ? [16:00] alt+f2 opens a run dialog [16:00] yep [16:00] and? [16:01] but the behavior on xubuntu is not the same on debian [16:01] what's diff [16:01] ? [16:02] hum... the alt+f2 on debian open the run dialog selecting the text box and xubuntu does not do it [16:02] so i prefer much debian alt+f2 behavior [16:04] I've never used debian - what is the text box it selects? [16:04] a terminal? [16:04] oh... no, it's not this [16:04] it's the completing fonction working different [16:05] you know debian is years behind...? [16:05] "years behind" ? [16:06] i'm not sure to understand what you mean [16:06] do you mean debian is oldest than xubuntu ? [16:07] debian only uses progs that are proven over time - it doesn't update very often at all [16:07] so... i'm using the unstable one ;) [16:08] Is it possible to make a xubuntu server that will boot itself during the night (via the Bios, that's possible), wake on line other Windows workstations attached to the network, do a backup of selected files (do I need to login into Administrator for this?), shut down the Windows systems when finished, keep track in a log files, shut the server down when all processes are completed? [16:08] I don't understand what you mean by the text box that alt+f2 selects [16:08] and progs aren't that old you say ;) [16:09] Query me if you know [16:09] xeorex: #ubuntu-server might know the answer to that [16:09] Cheers [16:09] k [16:10] Dream: xubuntu is beta or stable [16:11] and released every six months with newer packages for most apps [16:11] there is no unstable [16:11] hum... eg. if in my progs list i have "firefox" and "firestarter", in debian, if i type "fire", completing function give me "firefox" because i using firefox last time. xubuntu does not completing anything. i find it annoying. i have to type "firef" to get something [16:11] tried using the tab button? [16:12] (like the alt+r function on gnome-terminal) [16:12] yep, it doesn't work [16:13] (debian unstable is not so unstable ;) the very unstable version of debian is called sid...) [16:14] maybe someone else can chime in - I have an icon on a dock for the terminal and never use alt+f2 [16:16] ok. try it, it's a great function. i never use my mouse to lauch apps and find it very confortable ;) [16:16] (but it's pretty more confortable on debian :s) [16:17] Dream: press up arrow to select when completion list appears [16:18] suriro: yep. this is what i do on xubuntu but it's not so confortable and longer than on debian... [16:19] suriro: i would very appreciate to give the debian behavior [16:19] it's not a debian thing. That's how recent xfce behaves [16:20] suriro: oh... are you sure about that ? [16:20] suriro: i'm using debian since a year and i was the same behavior... [16:20] maybe install xfce3 instead of xfce4 [16:21] Dream: wha'ts the version of xfce you use on debian? [16:22] suriro: uh... i don't know. it's on my work computer and i don't have the hand on it at this time [16:23] suriro: i'll try to find it [16:23] (using the web) [16:25] it seems to be the 4.4.2.1 : http://packages.debian.org/lenny/xfce4 [16:26] and i'm using the 4.4.2 on xubuntu [16:27] (i mistake, i'm using the testing version, not the unstable) [16:42] my english is so bad but i really like to suggest make alt+f2 behavior work like debian in the ubuntu brainstorm website :D [16:44] go ahead Dream - they welcome input :) [16:46] ere4si: :) [16:46] hehe [17:05] #whois compiler [17:09] I have a question, im trying to install xubuntu on a laptop with the via KM400 chipset, in other words i have to install the openchrome driver to get graphics to work. Does any one know if openchrome works with xfce or do I have to install x? [17:10] OnionSWE: vesa should work to get you started at least. i think xorg has a fallback video to vesa. [17:10] to run xfce, iirc, you'll need x [17:10] it will boot with the vesa driver - then you install the necessaties [17:11] * BunnyRevolution lug presentation's focuses on *buntu, in particular xubuntu [17:12] as many peeps in my area have low speced computes [17:16] ok, i did the vga=791 thing to get VSA working at least, so now im running the install but i dont think that i will get xfce to start, guess that i have to install the openchrome driver in text mode and then start xfce.. [17:21] i have been trying to get xubuntu to run on this particular machine for about two years now, this openchrome driver stuff has been making it impossible [17:24] OnionSWE: why not boot with the vesa driver? [17:32] ere4si, how would i do that? [17:34] OnionSWE: install xubuntu and boot into it - the vesa driver is the default [17:34] if it can't find a better driver [17:35] Well if i just boot the desktop version of xubuntu i just see the boot splash screen and then it just stops loading because it wont load xfce.. [17:37] if i use the alternate cd i cant even get the installation graphics to work without using the vga=791 thing, to work and even then i cant start xfce.. i have tried it hundreds of times in hundreds of diferent ways and it just wont start... [17:38] OnionSWE: what is the hardware - laptop brand etc [17:39] Acer aspire 1350 with via KM400 chipset which means i have a sis3 (i think) onboard graphics card that just refuses to work with any kind of linux dist.. [17:39] 256 MB RAM shared with graphics [17:39] 40GB HDD [17:43] OnionSWE: I use a sis 305 card and the vesa driver - and your lappy is well supported for ubuntu - where in the boot process does it stop? [17:48] well if i just boot the alternate xubuntu hardy CD i the "boot menu" works where i choose how to install, but if i chose install the screen just "scrambels" and i cant se anything, the program dosent hang or anyting its just that the screen scarmbels everything and i cant see what im doing.. [17:48] so thats when i use the F6-> vga=791 commmand and then i can follow the installation through.. [17:50] then i can follow the installation through..and what happens next? [17:51] but as i remember it even though i complete the installation xfce still wont boot when i try to boot the system for the first time.. i can see the spash screens with the "loding the system progress bar" and everything but just as xfce is about to start the system just stops, i see a few text commands and there is a text prompt so i can write stuff but i cant acctually execute any commands so its not the command line inter [17:52] then i have to hit Ctrl+Alt+Del and the system shuts down... [17:53] OnionSWE: is it a busybox prompt? [17:53] im installing right now, im at 67% so i can give you a more detailed description in a few minutes.. [17:53] I'm here for a while :) [17:54] use my nick when you're ready [17:55] its just the blinking horisontal line and a black screen and i can write stuff but hitting enter just "changes to the next line", its like writing a text document.. [17:56] that's not a busybox prompt then... [18:00] 87% cleaning up the system.. [18:03] installing grub [18:03] finishing installation.. [18:04] ere4si: rebooting.. [18:04] k [18:05] starting up.. [18:05] boot splash loding indicator thing... [18:05] progress bar it's called [18:07] ok, so now im stuck as i described before.. there are a few text lines to indicate OK status of some boot events and now just the text input blinking horizontal line... [18:07] i can write a book here and hit enter just as many times as i wish, nothing hapens.. [18:08] last line was "*Running local boot scripts (etc/rc.local) [OK]" and now nothing... [18:09] sorry? [18:10] describing my boot experience to ere4si... :) [18:10] OnionSWE: can you reboot and select your kernel to boot - then press e then scroll down to the kernel line press e again and remove the "quietsplash" and add verbose hit enter and b [18:10] Anyone know of a work around for the 8.04 exception emask errors? I've tried all of the suggested fixes on the forums and they don't seem to help. Installs fine in VMware/VirtualBox any ideas? [18:10] allright, rebooting... [18:11] OnionSWE: it will let us know where the failure is [18:13] ere4si, booting, but its booting as usual, with splash screen... ? [18:13] ok, now stuck at the same place again.. [18:14] oh sorry, i made a mistake... rebooting now... [18:14] OnionSWE: you should have got text instead of the progressbar [18:14] k [18:15] ere4si: it didnt say quietsplash, it just said quiet.. dont know if that makes any difference... [18:16] ere4si: ok, i changed it from quiet to verbose and now it wont boot at all.. ?? [18:16] hmmm' [18:17] hmm cant even use ctrl+alt+delete now, have to pull the battery... :) [18:17] OnionSWE: done the md5 check on the cd ? [18:17] !md5 [18:17] ahhhggg bot not working [18:18] call for a bot [18:18] !bot [18:18] doesn't work here lately [18:19] i did not check the md5.. [18:19] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [18:20] OnionSWE: that should be an option at booting the cd [18:21] I can check it if you want but i dont think thats the problem.. Ive had this exact problem with several different xubuntu disks.. and i know that i have checked some of the otherones that gave me the exact same problem.. [18:22] OnionSWE: I never try and boot an unchecked disk [18:23] it seams that i cant edit the boot options... even though i delete the quiet line and add a verbose line, the next time i reboot it has changed back to quiet.. [18:24] are you sure about the "verbose" thing? [18:24] OnionSWE: positive [18:25] What if i just boot into recovery mode, shouldnt that do the trick..? [18:25] OnionSWE: and it always says quiet splash never just quiet [18:26] OnionSWE: good thought - see if that takes you to a login [18:26] mine just said quiet per default, i hadent touched it! :) [18:27] pizza dewm [18:27] OnionSWE: that's what made me think the disk wasn't right [18:27] allright, im seeing a lot of text swooshing by... [18:27] OnionSWE: you could have a dying burner [18:28] Ok im at the recovery menu [18:28] pizzzzaaaaaaa dewwwwmmmmmm [18:28] Guess that i should chouse "Drop to root shell prompt" [18:28] login [18:29] im in.. [18:29] what now? [18:30] should i try to install the openchrome drivers and se if that works? [18:30] type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [18:30] and choose defaults except vid card - choose vesa [18:30] !ps3 [18:30] Factoid ps3 not found [18:30] !bot [18:30] I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;) [18:31] does any body know how UI can install linux on the ps3? [18:31] yahhh the bots back [18:31] Use kernel framebuffer? [18:31] no [18:32] Cannon: google has the answer [18:32] lol, i've looked [18:32] i need somebody to talk to [18:32] as right now I can't even boot to the ps3 os [18:33] ubuntu 8.04, exception emask, ata2 frozen error. (cdrom) vmware works, virtualbox works, any known work arounds? Forum fixes haven't worked. [18:33] Cannon: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/how-to-install-linux-on-your-ps3-220918.php [18:33] ere4si: it just asked me lots and lots of questions about my keboard and then exited... [18:34] OnionSWE: it should [18:34] type shutdown -r now [18:34] ere4si: i thought that it was supposed to ask me about my graphics hardware.. [18:35] Ok, its shutting down.. [18:35] OnionSWE: the third or so question should have been about the vid card [18:35] thats not a guide ere4si, lol [18:35] rebooting.. [18:35] Should i try a normal boot this time? [18:35] yep [18:36] So you think my keyboard is working against me? := [18:36] :) [18:36] you broke it. [18:36] hehe [18:37] OnionSWE: there should have been a question or two about your vid card [18:37] ere4si: there wasnt.. just about my keyboard... [18:38]