| eido_ | can someone tell me how to format a floppy | 02:48 |
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| os2mac | Does Edubuntu install an ICA client by defaut? | 04:41 |
| os2mac | s/defaut/default | 04:41 |
| achandrashekar | hello...i just installed edubuntu 8.04 and it appears that after doing a ltsp-build-client -arch i386 i cannot get my i386 clients to come up....no pxe boot | 04:44 |
| achandrashekar | i have installed on a fresh box with two nics | 04:45 |
| achandrashekar | the system is an athnlon x2 | 04:45 |
| achandrashekar | any ideas?? | 04:45 |
| achandrashekar | do i need to manually create an lts.conf file ? | 04:45 |
| achandrashekar | not sure how is around...but i installed a 64 bit edubuntu , built the ltsp 32 bit for clients, and cannot seem to PXE..any ideas? | 07:18 |
| johnny | hi | 07:20 |
| johnny | you sure leave quickly | 07:20 |
| johnny | lemme respond to what i didn't finish earlier | 07:21 |
| johnny | <achandrashekar> and if i have (dare say it) have some ppc clients is that --arch=ppc ? | 07:21 |
| johnny | <achandrashekar> johnny: oh...the flash doesnt work?? with the --arch=i386 on a 64 bit server? | 07:21 |
| johnny | no.. ppc isn't that simple, you need to do it on a pcc machine from my understanding.. or find some hackery to get around it | 07:21 |
| johnny | and flash does work | 07:22 |
| achandrashekar | sorry..went home from work...im at home now :) | 07:22 |
| johnny | what i was saying.. is that flash is more difficult to make work properly with sound on your thin clients.. | 07:22 |
| johnny | more magick has to be done | 07:22 |
| johnny | the problem is mainly due to the fact adobe still doesn't release 64bit flash, even for windows | 07:23 |
| johnny | unless you want to use gnash or swfdec , which are open source implementations still in the works | 07:23 |
| achandrashekar | i see.. I ran into psychotic issue though...i set up a fresh box... and after hitting f4, it went through the install and asked about primary nic...and said nothing about the 2nd nic | 07:23 |
| johnny | i think ubuntu distributes it | 07:23 |
| johnny | well you can setup the 2nd nic easily enough | 07:23 |
| achandrashekar | i did verify that the installer made the second nic at 192.168.0.254 | 07:24 |
| johnny | gui and console ways | 07:24 |
| johnny | i'm used to the console way | 07:24 |
| johnny | migrated from windows myself in the beginning, but using console always turned out to be faster :) | 07:25 |
| achandrashekar | i did the build-client --arch i386 bit, and it installed the 32 bit client | 07:25 |
| johnny | yes | 07:25 |
| achandrashekar | but what happens is i cant seem to get the clients to pxe at all | 07:25 |
| johnny | in what way? | 07:25 |
| johnny | that's too broad :) | 07:25 |
| achandrashekar | no dhcp | 07:25 |
| johnny | doesn't sound like it involves --arch one way or the other then | 07:26 |
| achandrashekar | i tested by plugging my laptop to the same switch that ltsp server is on....and no dhcp aaddy | 07:26 |
| johnny | did you use ltsp-server or ltsp-server-standalone ? | 07:26 |
| achandrashekar | i simply just hit f4, and picked ltsp-server | 07:27 |
| achandrashekar | I also discovered there is no lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 | 07:28 |
| johnny | uhmm.. i've never installed edubuntu.. | 07:28 |
| achandrashekar | is that normal | 07:28 |
| johnny | yes it is | 07:28 |
| johnny | it comes from tftp now | 07:28 |
| johnny | so you can change it without updating the image | 07:28 |
| achandrashekar | ahh..okay.. | 07:28 |
| achandrashekar | im not sure if you have run into this or not.... | 07:28 |
| johnny | are you sure you have a dhcp server? | 07:29 |
| johnny | i don't know what the ubuntu install screen that gives you options looks like | 07:29 |
| johnny | so i don't know whta ltsp-server in that context means | 07:30 |
| achandrashekar | i wonder if i explicitly have to tell dhcp to use a certain interface | 07:30 |
| johnny | so.. first.. you sure you have a dhcp server? | 07:30 |
| achandrashekar | yeah..dhcp-server is installed...because an /etc/init.d/dhcp-server restart initiates | 07:30 |
| achandrashekar | or works...sorry for vagueness | 07:31 |
| johnny | and you have an /etc/ltsp/ for dhcp ? | 07:31 |
| achandrashekar | yes | 07:31 |
| johnny | cuz the dhcp-server script uses that if available from my understanding | 07:31 |
| johnny | i only use dnsmasq.. so i've never looked at it.. | 07:31 |
| johnny | sorry.. i don't use the common use case obviously :) | 07:31 |
| achandrashekar | the weirdness might be the interface itself..it is an emachine..so im wondering if i should pop in another card..and disable on board nvidia ethernet | 07:32 |
| johnny | onboard nvidia ethernet is a good idea | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | to disable it...you mean. | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | ?? | 07:32 |
| johnny | i think you need to edit the dhcpd config file | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | i see... | 07:32 |
| johnny | make sure it is listening in the proper interface | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | right.. | 07:32 |
| achandrashekar | where is that done...again? | 07:33 |
| johnny | on the other interface, it will conflict with any other dhcp servers you have going, if you don't do it right | 07:33 |
| johnny | i just told you :) | 07:33 |
| johnny | i'm not booted in the hardy right now.. don't recall the exact file name, but you should notice it in /etc/ltsp | 07:33 |
| johnny | it has dhcpd in the name | 07:33 |
| achandrashekar | oh right..sorry..a abit tired here.. :) | 07:33 |
| johnny | achandrashekar, i'm a gentoo user normally.. i just happened to do a somewhat specialized ltsp install on an ubuntu machine | 07:34 |
| johnny | and use ubuntu on my laptop.. | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | so the recommendation to disable the on board nvidia ethernet you recommend. | 07:34 |
| johnny | so.. i'm not expert on the ubuntu/debian stuff in general.. | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | gentoo is cool stuff :) | 07:34 |
| johnny | no.. don't disable it :) | 07:34 |
| johnny | unless it doesn't work | 07:34 |
| achandrashekar | oh..use the onboard nvidia ethernet..are they good? | 07:35 |
| johnny | onboard any nic is good for me :) | 07:35 |
| achandrashekar | im not so up on hardware these days. | 07:35 |
| johnny | go onbord ethernet :) | 07:35 |
| achandrashekar | just curious as to why. | 07:35 |
| johnny | it rarely is problematic | 07:35 |
| johnny | i use onboard everything except video | 07:35 |
| achandrashekar | i see. | 07:35 |
| johnny | hell.. even onboard video.. if it has open drivers | 07:36 |
| johnny | i'm not a big gamer.. so these machines with onboard 64mb video.. are just fine! | 07:36 |
| achandrashekar | yep that too is nvidia | 07:36 |
| johnny | it makes me sad to use the nvidia drivers :( | 07:36 |
| johnny | but i do need a little bit of 3d | 07:36 |
| johnny | hopefully the open 3d driver will be better soon | 07:37 |
| johnny | they are getting there.. | 07:37 |
| johnny | but intel and ati stuff really leads the path | 07:37 |
| johnny | intel in particular has the best open source drivers for video | 07:37 |
| johnny | if i was doing any sort of business related install that didnt need heavy graphics.. i'd always choose intel | 07:37 |
| johnny | cuz they dont' sell seperate graphics cards.. | 07:37 |
| johnny | :( | 07:37 |
| johnny | maybe some day they will.. | 07:38 |
| achandrashekar | i remember when ati was vilified by linux peeps approx 5 years ago.. but things have changed. | 07:38 |
| johnny | well i didn't use them | 07:38 |
| johnny | until the ati dirver started working for real hardware | 07:38 |
| johnny | somebody gave me a dual head dvi out card | 07:38 |
| johnny | for our machine at red emma's | 07:38 |
| achandrashekar | cool | 07:38 |
| johnny | also my ltsp install machine.. | 07:38 |
| johnny | and i made it work with the open soure drivers with 3d and dual head | 07:39 |
| johnny | and i was happy | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | you are definitely the champion here..for always being on :) | 07:39 |
| johnny | i keep odd hours! | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | how do you stay awake all these hours | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | lol | 07:39 |
| johnny | it's 2:40am | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | yeah 11:39 here | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | in L.A. | 07:39 |
| johnny | well.. i like the quietness of night | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | same here.. | 07:39 |
| johnny | easier to get work done | 07:39 |
| johnny | altho now that i do stuff from home.. | 07:39 |
| achandrashekar | thinking about going back to IT though.. teaching is fun..but so is money :) | 07:40 |
| johnny | it sucks being worried that you'll get that phone call | 07:40 |
| achandrashekar | lol...i remember those days as well... | 07:40 |
| johnny | IT for money.. i don't think i could do it | 07:40 |
| achandrashekar | i hear ya..i hated the 56 mile drive to work | 07:40 |
| johnny | they'll be like.. OMG my site is down.. or omg internet is down at the store | 07:40 |
| achandrashekar | one way | 07:40 |
| johnny | IT is no fun unless it is for a good cause | 07:41 |
| johnny | i would never do it | 07:41 |
| johnny | EVER | 07:41 |
| johnny | web is hard enough :) | 07:41 |
| johnny | IT means actually going somewhere | 07:41 |
| johnny | whenever something is down | 07:41 |
| achandrashekar | some how making that 4 billion dollar company a 5 billion dollar company just wasnt working for me anymore | 07:41 |
| johnny | yeah.. no way | 07:42 |
| johnny | i just can't | 07:42 |
| achandrashekar | i teach math now....when kids do get it, it is awesome | 07:42 |
| johnny | i like managing our little shop | 07:43 |
| johnny | it's fun | 07:43 |
| achandrashekar | somehow...its very rewarding to see these kids from this low socio-economic area make it. | 07:43 |
| achandrashekar | kind of evens the playing field. :) | 07:43 |
| johnny | for a coffeeshop.. we sure have alot of tech | 07:43 |
| achandrashekar | that is cool | 07:43 |
| johnny | custom RoR scheduling app for people to schedule shifts | 07:43 |
| johnny | open source point of sale software | 07:43 |
| achandrashekar | nice | 07:43 |
| johnny | written by one of the mebers | 07:43 |
| johnny | members* | 07:43 |
| achandrashekar | touch screen? | 07:43 |
| johnny | no | 07:44 |
| johnny | we use that same computer for general internet browsing too | 07:44 |
| johnny | and ltsp :) | 07:44 |
| achandrashekar | i see. | 07:44 |
| johnny | it coudl use a touch screen i guess | 07:44 |
| achandrashekar | do mind me asking "where" this is ? | 07:44 |
| johnny | but .. that would never work for us | 07:44 |
| johnny | baltimore , maryland | 07:44 |
| johnny | http://www.redemmas.org | 07:45 |
| achandrashekar | is it nice there?? we have concrete and more concrete.. | 07:45 |
| johnny | so do we :( | 07:45 |
| johnny | not as bad as yours for sure | 07:45 |
| johnny | you're only like 10 minutes away from concrete | 07:45 |
| johnny | by car | 07:45 |
| achandrashekar | nice site! | 07:45 |
| johnny | we also have wireless.. so i set that up | 07:46 |
| achandrashekar | the whole ddwrt thing?? or a system with a wireless nic in it? | 07:46 |
| johnny | openwrt | 07:46 |
| johnny | i wouldn't use ddwrt | 07:46 |
| johnny | openwrt is more extensible | 07:46 |
| johnny | ddwrt does a bit too much | 07:47 |
| achandrashekar | yeah..ill have try that. | 07:47 |
| johnny | i actually used coova | 07:47 |
| johnny | cuz it had a built in captive portal | 07:47 |
| achandrashekar | i tried to use the mesh capability..and it was so so | 07:47 |
| johnny | and is built on top of openwrt | 07:47 |
| johnny | so we have a terms of service thing | 07:47 |
| johnny | and a plea for them to buy something :) | 07:48 |
| achandrashekar | bookfair link not working..but the other stuff is very cool. | 07:48 |
| johnny | it'll be back up soon | 07:48 |
| johnny | so.. i joined up with them almost a year ago | 07:48 |
| johnny | been interesting learning to be a barista | 07:48 |
| achandrashekar | yeah i bet! | 07:49 |
| johnny | i used to hang out at coffeehouses.. now i help run one :) | 07:49 |
| johnny | im trying to get some space at our other venue | 07:49 |
| achandrashekar | We have place out here known as the Coffee Klatch..and heather supposedly united states barista champion | 07:49 |
| johnny | we have a partnership with a local methodist church | 07:50 |
| johnny | we cook our baked goods in their food safe certified kitchin :) | 07:50 |
| johnny | and now we host events in the big room.. | 07:50 |
| achandrashekar | linux, coffee, how can you beat that?? | 07:50 |
| achandrashekar | :) | 07:50 |
| johnny | there's another place or 3 that does it | 07:50 |
| johnny | one is canada, it has the word linux in the name | 07:51 |
| johnny | altho we are different in that we are worker owned | 07:51 |
| johnny | it's something i always wanted to do back home.. before i moved up here | 07:52 |
| johnny | my girlfriend's brother is one of the founding collective members ... | 07:53 |
| johnny | that's how i knew about it .. | 07:53 |
| achandrashekar | johnny: you might wanna check that coffee klatch place out...in san dimas california on the net...im told they are one of the best in the country | 07:53 |
| achandrashekar | mike the owner is former chemist :) | 07:54 |
| johnny | it's interesting to see such a radical oriented space, being so public.. | 07:54 |
| achandrashekar | it sounds like you are having fun with it | 07:54 |
| johnny | our folks have even been on the frontpage of main paper in the city | 07:54 |
| achandrashekar | that is cool! | 07:54 |
| achandrashekar | where does the name come from? | 07:54 |
| johnny | uhmm.. | 07:54 |
| johnny | http://redemmas.org/section/About/emma/ | 07:55 |
| achandrashekar | yep...reading... | 07:55 |
| achandrashekar | emma goldman ;) | 07:55 |
| achandrashekar | rtfm...lol | 07:55 |
| achandrashekar | yeah that is cool | 07:56 |
| johnny | http://flickr.com/photos/h1113/2207915321/ there's a picture of two of my terminals .. | 07:57 |
| johnny | http://flickr.com/photos/h1113/2207915321/ | 07:57 |
| johnny | oops | 07:57 |
| johnny | the caption is incorrect.. just normal people i'm sure.. | 07:58 |
| achandrashekar | ha ha | 07:58 |
| achandrashekar | nice | 07:58 |
| johnny | http://flickr.com/photos/gavinmusic/1417846258/ | 07:58 |
| johnny | we're pretty public with our presence.. as you can see from the giant sign.. | 07:58 |
| achandrashekar | anything that is not Micro$haft is these days :) | 07:58 |
| johnny | all sorts of people come through | 07:58 |
| achandrashekar | my fiance would be in love with that place....she is the avid reader.. | 07:59 |
| johnny | well our coffee and food ain't bad either.. | 07:59 |
| johnny | some of the best and cheapest in the area | 07:59 |
| achandrashekar | we are very all tired of $tarbucks here.. | 08:00 |
| johnny | there's a small premium for all the organic stuff we use.. but you can get a medium cup of shade grown, fair trade coffee that is mighty tasty for 1.60 | 08:00 |
| achandrashekar | the coffee shop here in town gave coffee away for free when starbucks was closed.. and btw..that is a great price for fair trade | 08:01 |
| achandrashekar | well..ill know where to stop by in baltimore :) | 08:01 |
| johnny | well.. on that note... here's where i wnt to setup a mobile ltsp lab ... | 08:02 |
| johnny | err moveable.. | 08:02 |
| achandrashekar | laptops maybe? | 08:02 |
| johnny | http://redemmas.org/cms_media/IMG_1808.JPG | 08:03 |
| johnny | was thinking moving tables | 08:03 |
| johnny | with power strips and hubs attached | 08:03 |
| johnny | since we have many events there already | 08:04 |
| achandrashekar | pretty church | 08:04 |
| achandrashekar | well johnny i gotta get some z's here...before trying again...i do appreciate the help as always, and pleasure talking to you. :) | 08:06 |
| neil_d | hi, I am trying to configure ltsp to use the dhcp server from one machine but boot from another. What do I put in the dhcp.conf file to say get files from a second computer ? | 08:38 |
| johnny | i think you want next-server .. | 08:59 |
| johnny | i know it is documented in the installed ltsp example | 09:00 |
| neil_d | johnny: I will try and find it | 10:13 |
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| neil_d | hi my dhcp on 192.168.1.254 is trying to get the clients to boot from 192.168.1.10, I have setup the 'next-server' option for the dhcp and according to wireshark it seems to be working. but the client isn't booting :( the tftp file doesn't seem to be being sent. what is the actual name of the file on the server ? | 15:42 |
| ogra | it lies in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/ | 15:43 |
| ogra | tftp path should be /ltsp/i386 | 15:44 |
| ogra | (resulting in a: filename "/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"; stanza) | 15:44 |
| neil_d | ogra: its there so I did generate it correctly. :) | 15:45 |
| neil_d | is there any way to check the tftp server is going ? | 15:46 |
| ogra | grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf | 15:50 |
| ogra | on the server | 15:50 |
| neil_d | there is an entry. | 15:51 |
| ogra | your next-server is properly pointing to the right machine ? | 15:51 |
| neil_d | yes | 15:52 |
| neil_d | the DHCP offer packet includes the correct 'next server' info. | 15:55 |
| ogra | but you dont get a kernel ? | 15:55 |
| neil_d | nope! the clients tftp load times out :( and I see no attemp in wireshark to connect :( | 15:56 |
| * neil_d but I could miss that I suppose. | 15:57 | |
| ogra | the dhcp server and thinc client network are on the same network segment ? | 15:57 |
| neil_d | yes | 15:58 |
| ogra | so your ltsp server has only one NIC, right ? | 15:58 |
| neil_d | yes | 15:58 |
| ogra | if you install a tftp client on another machine, can you get pxelinux.0 manually ? | 15:59 |
| neil_d | I don't know. I will start one up, is there a client likely to be installed ? | 16:01 |
| ogra | sudo apt-get install tftp-hpa | 16:02 |
| ogra | that will get you a client | 16:02 |
| neil_d | ok I have it installed | 16:08 |
| ogra | tftp <serverip> | 16:08 |
| ogra | then enter: get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0 | 16:08 |
| ogra | at the prompt | 16:08 |
| ogra | hot ctrl+d to exit | 16:09 |
| ogra | and check if it lies in your dir | 16:09 |
| ogra | s/hot/hit/ | 16:09 |
| neil_d | ok done that and it did load it in. So I suppose this must mean there is a problem with the dhcp ? | 16:10 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:11 |
| ogra | are you sure there is only one dhcpd running in your network ? | 16:11 |
| neil_d | yep! I have had a fedora 4 dhcp server running for years now. I have been thinking of updateing its OS but its my main file server, and I really don't want to upset it. | 16:12 |
| ogra | you cant run two dhcp servers in one network and have proper netbooting | 16:13 |
| ogra | fix that and it will work | 16:13 |
| neil_d | ogra: oh I know that, that is why I have trying to get a seperate DHCP server to the LTSP tftp server configured. | 16:14 |
| ogra | (thats why we default to a two NIC setup and run the thin client network on a dedicated interface with its own dhcpd) | 16:14 |
| ogra | (and thus on a completely separate netwirk) | 16:15 |
| ogra | *network | 16:15 |
| ogra | can you ping the ltsp server from the dhcp machine? | 16:16 |
| neil_d | I now the default is two nics, but this is just a testing system, and I won't be using it that much. The main system (with two nics) is somewhere else. | 16:16 |
| neil_d | yep | 16:16 |
| ogra | well, there must be a second dhcpd somewhere | 16:17 |
| neil_d | I don't think so or none of the computers would boot correctly as they all rely on DHCP to configure there connections. | 16:18 |
| ogra | they do netbooting ? | 16:19 |
| neil_d | no, they have dynamic IP, except the one I am using for the ltsp server, its DHCP configuration sets a static IP. | 16:20 |
| ogra | ok | 16:20 |
| ogra | you dont have a dhcpd running on the ltsp server either i suppose ? | 16:20 |
| neil_d | there isn't even one installed. | 16:22 |
| ogra | weird | 16:23 |
| neil_d | is there a terminal program that does the same job as wireshark ? | 16:23 |
| ogra | tcpdump | 16:23 |
| neil_d | ogra: not installed on the DHCP computer. :( | 16:27 |
| neil_d | ogra: thanks for the help. I got to go to bed now 1:33am here. | 16:33 |
| ogra | i'm here every day usually ... | 16:34 |
| neil_d | bye for now. | 16:36 |
| ukubuntu | apologies if this has been asked before but did the edubuntu team have a session in Ubuntu week? | 17:38 |
| ogra | nope | 17:39 |
| ukubuntu | Thank you ogra, | 17:39 |
| ukubuntu | I see there is no Live CD planned, in order to show edu facilities the system, I guess the best way is to bring in a laptop, or can you suggest another way? | 17:40 |
| ogra | sadly no | 17:41 |
| ukubuntu | OK thanks | 17:41 |
| ogra | well, you can use a liveCD and install edubuntu-desktop fro the net in the runing session | 17:41 |
| ogra | *from | 17:42 |
| ukubuntu | heheh, if I were as good as you! :D | 17:42 |
| juliux | hey ogra | 18:02 |
| ogra | hey juliux, thanks for handholding my mother yesetrday :) | 18:02 |
| juliux | ogra, btw take some euros withyou too prag;) | 18:02 |
| ogra | oh, right | 18:03 |
| juliux | ogra, it was your mother? | 18:03 |
| ogra | we'll need to find a printer for the form | 18:03 |
| ogra | biggi is my mom :) | 18:03 |
| juliux | ok | 18:03 |
| juliux | i thought my parents are modern, but they are not in the irc;) | 18:03 |
| ogra | well, i've set it up for her :) | 18:04 |
| juliux | ogra, i will bring a form with me to prag | 18:04 |
| ogra | great | 18:04 |
| juliux | my parents have jabber accounts but they don't use them | 18:04 |
| ogra | i have the form as pdf i think | 18:04 |
| ogra | we just need to print it | 18:05 |
| juliux | ok | 18:05 |
| juliux | on friday i am a helper for the claires so we will have a printer;) | 18:05 |
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| RichEd | ogra: you on for the intel call tomorrow ? | 18:23 |
| ogra | do i have a choice :P | 18:23 |
| RichEd | not really since colin will not be there ... damn silly time zones | 18:24 |
| ogra | damn silly uk holidays | 18:24 |
| RichEd | well chat to you tomorrow ... still getting my head straight ... see you then | 18:24 |
| ogra | right, final image is up btw | 18:25 |
| achandrashekar | morning. | 20:05 |
| johnny | mornin | 20:05 |
| achandrashekar | johnny: i forgot to ask a question about whether flash and java would work if i build the 32 bit clients..i think you had mentioned something about that. | 20:07 |
| johnny | not sure about java.. don't use it | 20:07 |
| achandrashekar | i just simply need jre | 20:07 |
| johnny | 32bit clients has nothing to do with it | 20:07 |
| johnny | the problem is 64bit server | 20:07 |
| achandrashekar | i see. | 20:07 |
| achandrashekar | i guess installing the 32 bit version of ubuntu will solve many of these headaches | 20:08 |
| achandrashekar | so i wont see the overall benefits of the 64bit x2 | 20:08 |
| achandrashekar | damn | 20:08 |
| johnny | it is possible to work | 20:09 |
| johnny | but really.. not many benefits to 64bit for normal desktop work as far as i've heard | 20:10 |
| johnny | if i could do my server over again... i'd do it 32bit | 20:10 |
| johnny | achandrashekar, this is what you get for relying on proprietary technologies | 20:10 |
| johnny | the open source flash and java implementations will work on 64bit | 20:11 |
| johnny | but because the proprietary implementations have been working good enough for most people | 20:11 |
| johnny | not enough time has been spent on them | 20:11 |
| johnny | adobe is slowly opening up more and more tho | 20:11 |
| achandrashekar | yeah....good ol closed source... yuck | 20:19 |
| achandrashekar | i see....and Im guessing you installed the 32bit version of the OS on your 64 bit server right? | 20:20 |
| johnny | no.. i said i wish i did | 20:20 |
| achandrashekar | oh..so you did go with the 64 bit, and then built the 32 bit client...and that is off 7.10?? | 20:20 |
| johnny | my terminals don't have sound, otherwise i prolly would have already | 20:20 |
| johnny | 7.10 and now 8.04 | 20:21 |
| achandrashekar | btw..found the place to change the which interface dhcp is to listen on -> /etc/default/dhcp | 20:21 |
| johnny | so.. you got taht workin? | 20:21 |
| achandrashekar | going in 10 mins to work | 20:21 |
| achandrashekar | and ill let ya know | 20:21 |
| achandrashekar | if it works. | 20:21 |
| achandrashekar | the huge problem is i cant trust the other admin with ldap implementation i did before... and that is why im hoping a 2gb system can power like 20 systems | 20:22 |
| achandrashekar | but i doubt it will | 20:22 |
| achandrashekar | so i might have to split the lab up | 20:22 |
| achandrashekar | into two parts with two systems | 20:22 |
| achandrashekar | and then have him manage accounts on both or something psychotic like that | 20:23 |
| achandrashekar | any suggestions on an idea to make it work with that many systems - approx 34 in that lab? | 20:23 |
| johnny | ldap seems the best way? | 20:24 |
| achandrashekar | yeah...this guy cant be trusted with it though. | 20:25 |
| achandrashekar | just seems to mess things up worse...im sure youll remember the power cord debacle i posted up. | 20:25 |
| johnny | fire him? | 20:26 |
| achandrashekar | lol...im sure they are on their way. | 20:26 |
| achandrashekar | i was made a strange offer of sorts.. | 20:27 |
| achandrashekar | how would i like being "out" of the classroom and dealing with tech..is how they approached it. | 20:27 |
| achandrashekar | i h8 deals like that though | 20:27 |
| achandrashekar | they dont have to get service...being cheap. | 20:27 |
| achandrashekar | :) | 20:27 |
| achandrashekar | but then again..its what you love to do i suppose..after seeing the place you work at..it was pretty incredible to see what you do.. | 20:28 |
| achandrashekar | so i might just tend that way. | 20:28 |
| johnny | i'm having trouble finding local open source geeks .. | 20:29 |
| johnny | the only geeks i know.. are the kinds who spend lots of time on forensics and security | 20:29 |
| johnny | which is not exactly that useful to me | 20:29 |
| achandrashekar | yeah...the linux world has changed a bit..a lot of the guys have now gone into corporate | 20:30 |
| achandrashekar | and the "homebrew" ones are disappearing | 20:30 |
| johnny | i'd rather have some of the folks with corporate implementation jobs than security peeps :) | 20:31 |
| johnny | security peeps are useless for jump starting stuff | 20:31 |
| achandrashekar | yeah..they know wireshark and nessus..and that is it. | 20:33 |
| johnny | dont forget reading bugtraq (or whatever is hot these days) | 20:34 |
| achandrashekar | all right johnny im gonna sign off for a sec here..and drive into work. | 20:38 |
| achandrashekar | see you back in a bit | 20:38 |
| achandrashekar | well with some figuring out, it turns out network slowness was due the nvidia network card that comes with motherboard...it uses forcedeath, and that was causing issues. I chose to simply plugin another network card, and all is okay now. | 22:03 |
| johnny | hmm.. i use forcedeth here.. no problems | 22:07 |
| johnny | odd | 22:07 |
| johnny | but it's not under heavy load | 22:07 |
| johnny | maybe that'd the difference | 22:07 |
| privet | upgraded my aging FC4 with LTSP 4.2 to a new ubuntu 8.4. some new thing to learn! | 22:13 |
| privet | the test PXE client boots fine, I see a "ubuntu knight rider splash" screen | 22:14 |
| privet | and then I get dropped in a busybox "ash" | 22:14 |
| privet | from the Wiki the default is for LDB to be SCREEN_01, right? | 22:14 |
| privet | *LDM | 22:14 |
| johnny | no | 22:18 |
| johnny | SCREEN_07 | 22:18 |
| johnny | SCREEN_01 is always ash | 22:18 |
| johnny | but it's not the good one | 22:18 |
| johnny | if you want a proper shell | 22:18 |
| johnny | do SCREEN_NN where NN is not 01 or 07 | 22:19 |
| johnny | i wish i could figure out why this silly machine won't read my dnsmasq config | 22:19 |
| johnny | err | 22:19 |
| johnny | won't read my lts.conf from tftp | 22:19 |
| johnny | which i think might be related to dnsmasq | 22:20 |
| privet | johnny: okay, so perhaps SCREEN_08 = ldm | 22:22 |
| privet | ? | 22:22 |
| johnny | why | 22:22 |
| johnny | SCREEN_07 is default to ldm | 22:22 |
| johnny | you don't even have to set it | 22:22 |
| privet | that is the thing | 22:22 |
| johnny | afaik | 22:22 |
| privet | then it is not working | 22:22 |
| privet | I only get one "tty" and that gives me a ash | 22:23 |
| johnny | does it flash like i tries X? | 22:23 |
| johnny | maybe your settings are brokenz | 22:23 |
| johnny | set SCREEN_02=shell | 22:23 |
| johnny | and try to check into that | 22:23 |
| johnny | try to start ldm manually | 22:23 |
| privet | well, I do get the "ubuntu night rider splash" screen | 22:23 |
| johnny | you can turn thta off | 22:23 |
| privet | and then, yes: t flashses and I get the ash | 22:23 |
| johnny | if you wanna see all the bootup messages | 22:23 |
| johnny | it's in the pxelinux.cfg/defautl file | 22:24 |
| privet | should I start it from that ash or onthe actual server? | 22:24 |
| johnny | from the SCREEN_02 | 22:24 |
| johnny | as i said :) | 22:24 |
| johnny | set that | 22:24 |
| johnny | to shell | 22:24 |
| johnny | and remove quiet splash from pxelinux.cfg/default | 22:26 |
| achandrashekar | johnny: okay...have one system connected to switch with the ltsp server...For some reason the performance is very slow... | 22:29 |
| achandrashekar | jhonny: when doing a top..i dont see the memory or processors being overloaded by anything..so im not sure where to begin to debug here. | 22:30 |
| johnny | try just transfering a big file maybe? | 22:31 |
| achandrashekar | the ltsp server performance is fine, the ping times to google from the ltsp client is acceptable, but the client itself when launching a browser or whatever takes at least 15-20 seconds | 22:32 |
| privet | mounting /rofs on /rot/rofs failed: invalid argument | 22:37 |
| privet | target filesystem does not have /sbin/init | 22:37 |
| privet | johnny: those errors mean anything to you. | 22:40 |
| privet | I suspect I have some NFS config lying around... | 22:40 |
| * privet takes a step back and start over... | 22:41 | |
| johnny | ltsp doesn't use nfs by default | 22:54 |
| johnny | on ubuntu | 22:54 |
| johnny | i am heading out to get some foodz.. but i'll be somewhat back after that | 22:57 |
| killsalad | hi all, right now i'm writing a paper about LTSP, and i stuck with section which i called limitations of clients, please tell me what else can I plug to client beside printer and usb stic? | 23:32 |
| killsalad | ok - is it possible to burn cd on terminal? | 23:36 |
| LaserJock | yes it is | 23:36 |
| LaserJock | do you mean specifically from a thin client? | 23:37 |
| killsalad | ok from thin client which has a cd burner | 23:38 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'm not sure | 23:43 |
| LaserJock | that might be pretty difficult to do | 23:43 |
| LaserJock | I wouldn't think the data could be transferred fast enough over the netwrok | 23:44 |
| LaserJock | I don't know alot about LTSP though | 23:45 |
| stgraber | Most thin clients don't have CD/DVD drives anyway and indeed I wouldn't try it :) | 23:57 |
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