[01:15]  * nixternal goes back to uploading stdin's 4.0.4 packages
[01:15] <nixternal> just got home from a bday party for my neice, and I am dead tired
[01:58] <stdin> I'm starting to getting sick of the "are there any 4.1 alpha packages yet?" questions in -kde4
[01:58] <nixternal> hehe
[01:58] <nixternal> put there aren't any plans in the topic
[01:59] <nixternal> I have been telling people to put openSUSE in a VM if you want to see a very bad desktop
[01:59] <stdin> I'm tempted, but I know no one ever reads the damn topic anyway :p
[01:59] <nixternal> if we put up alpha packages, there will easily be 50+ bugs files against plasma not working worth a damn
[02:00] <stdin> people expect them because we had 4.0 alphas
[02:00] <nixternal> if they want 4.1 alphas, do it, but for Intrepid
[02:01] <stdin> break it before the base is even uploaded, yeah :)
[02:01] <nixternal> as soon as you put out Hardy 4.1 alpha packages, people will complain...tell them if they want it so bad, to start working on building the packages
[02:03] <stdin> I could answer: depends, are you going to create them for me?  then when they say "how?" I'll just say, !packaging :p
[02:03] <stdin> then I'll /part really fast and run so they can't ask me for help
[02:04] <nixternal> stdin: are those 4.0.4 module packages on your broadband connection?
[02:04] <stdin> if you can call it broadband, yeah
[02:04] <nixternal> hehe, ok
[02:04] <nixternal> I am grabbing games now, have the rest to grab
[02:04] <nixternal> going to just grab them all in one shot while kdebindings 4.0.4 test builds
[02:04] <stdin> ahh, I noticed my lag jump :p
[02:05] <nixternal> hehe
[02:05] <nixternal> that's me w00tin' your server :p
[02:05] <stdin> what are you getting, like 30KB/s at the most?
[02:06] <nixternal> I have found the same exact problem though in everyone of your module packages you did for 4.0.4
[02:06] <nixternal> 43k
[02:06] <stdin> I haven't checked in a while and it varies from time to time (depending on who owns my ISP at the time)
[02:06] <nixternal> you didn't create a backport bug and close it in the changelog :p
[02:06] <nixternal> I have created all of the backport reports, and I am just editing the changelog with emacs so you get the karma
[02:07] <stdin> bah, that's the job of a motu :p
[02:07] <nixternal> just adding (LP: #xxxx) to the * New upstream release line
[02:07] <nixternal> I may have updated an install file for new stuff added to the package, other than that, they are good
[02:08] <nixternal> kind of hard for you to do the testing though w/o libs and base
[02:09] <stdin> yeah, it would have taken too long for me to either hack them to build with 4.0.3 or get libs etc built, so I skipped a step there
[02:09] <stdin> I usually like to test build before I call them "ready"
[02:11] <stdin> I think python is making me lazy, just spent 5 mins trying to figure out what was wrong with my c++ code, turns out I didn't type the variable :/
[02:11] <Riddell> stdin: I expect alpha packages will start to appear next week
[02:12] <stdin> Riddell: those will be for intrepid right?
[02:17] <Riddell> stdin: yes
[02:17] <Riddell> but maybe someone will want to backport them to a PPA
[02:18] <stdin> as long as Qt4.4 won't break things, I don't see why not
[02:18] <stdin> I haven't even tried Qt4.4 yet, missed out on the whole dev cycle there
[02:20] <Jucato> you're not the only one stdin
[02:21] <seele> Riddell: i've been under the impression you're afk for most of the weekend
[02:22] <Riddell> seele: I have to pass the time somehow while I fill in my tax return
[02:22] <nixternal> yikes, kdebindings 4.0.4 is being a brat
[02:23] <Jucato> it always is...
[02:23] <nixternal> it just stops building at the same spot every time
[02:24] <Riddell> I wouldn't worry too much about it nixternal
[02:24] <Jucato> maybe skip the offending module?
[02:25] <nixternal> yup, skipping and moving on...I should have all of the modules uploaded either tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest
[02:30] <seele> ew taxes.. good luck
[02:32] <Riddell> the trick is to end up making sure they owe you as much as possible
[02:33] <Riddell> I wonder how much I can claim for toilet paper use in the last year
[03:25] <vorian> evening :)
[05:52]  * Serega silently: "Good time of day"
[05:53] <Hobbsee> heya!
[06:00] <Serega> Hobbsee: glad to see you
[06:00] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:54] <Serega> Riddell: Jonathan?
[11:36]  * SiNiESTrO is away: Ausente por ahora.
[13:27] <Riddell> Serega: hi
[13:27] <Serega> Riddell: hi!
[13:28] <Serega> Riddell: I have a debdiff, could you please review and upload it?
[13:28] <Riddell> sure
[13:31] <Riddell> Serega: any idea what would cause this? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161592
[13:31] <Riddell> possibly the lack of decss?
[13:32] <Arby> Riddell: if you're in review mode could you have a look at the debdiff on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/226281 when you get a chance.
[13:32] <Serega> Riddell: I have already fixed this, thank you for pointing
[13:32] <Riddell> Serega: can you say so on that bug, or got a comment for me to add?
[13:33] <Serega> I will add a comment
[13:34] <Riddell> Arby: yes, sorry I got busy yesterday
[13:34] <Arby> Riddell: no problem it was pretty late anyway, no rush
[13:35] <Arby> just trying to make pbuilder behave for testing purposes
[13:35] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you missed the meeting, too
[13:35] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I know, I said I would
[13:35] <Hobbsee> oh
[13:36] <Serega> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1006896
[13:37] <Serega> Riddell: look at the line 32 of the debdiff - is if a fix for "looping"
[13:39] <Riddell> groovy
[13:39] <Riddell> Arby: your diff is backwards but otherwise all good
[13:40] <Arby> Riddell: oh, what is the correct way then?
[13:40] <Arby> and what happens next, I'm still learning the process
[13:41] <Serega> Riddell: how detailed that comment should be?
[13:41] <apachelogger> nixternal: what's the build error for kdebindings?
[13:41] <Riddell> Arby: just means you diffed the new against the old rather than the old against the new, so I need to patch with -R
[13:41] <Riddell> Arby: next I upload
[13:42] <Arby> yay, first ever package done :)
[13:42]  * Arby looks for something else to do
[13:45] <Riddell> Arby: kdelibs if you're feeling like doing important stuff :)
[13:45] <Riddell> Serega: which comment?
[13:46] <Arby> Riddell: I'm just wondering if that would be considered insane at this stage
[13:46] <Arby> let me look at the report
[13:47] <Riddell> Arby: I happen to not use the merge reports, I tend to just start with Debian's debian/ dir and apply changes listed in debian/KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES and the changelog
[13:48] <Serega> Riddell: below the bugreport at the bugs.kde.org
[13:48] <Arby> Riddell: I've been using the Conflicts section to know where I should be looking for things to check
[13:48] <Arby> Riddell: I'll give it a go if you're prepared to pick up the pieces
[13:48] <Riddell> Serega: oh just say it's a kubuntu specific bug and will be fixed in an update
[13:49] <Riddell> Arby: go for it
[13:49] <Arby> commence operation suicide
[13:51] <Riddell> operation arby-is-elite
[13:51] <Arby> :)
[13:52] <Arby> Riddell: what does dfsg mean in the version number for kdelibs
[13:53] <Hobbsee> means they ripped out the good bits
[13:53] <Hobbsee> or the bad bits.  depending on your POV>
[13:53] <Hobbsee> the debian nonfree bits, anyway
[13:54] <Arby> oh so dfsg = debian free software guidelines?
[13:54] <Arby> and they've removed the bits that are non-compliant?
[13:54] <apachelogger> Arby: yes
[13:55] <Arby> ok
[14:00] <Riddell> they'll have removed some RFC files
[14:00] <Riddell> (which I've removed upstream)
[14:00] <Riddell> I don't know if that'll give them a higher or lower version number than we have
[14:01] <Riddell> dpkg --compare-versions 1 gt 2; echo $?  to find out
[14:02] <stdin> I got bored one day, so I made this http://stdin.pastebin.com/d2f36677a for dpkg --compare-versions
[14:02] <Riddell> stdin: that could be added to ubuntu dev tools
[14:03] <stdin> maybe, but like everything I do, it's just a hack :p
[14:03]  * apachelogger is afraid of that sh magic
[14:04]  * Hobbsee shakes her head
[14:04] <Hobbsee> stdin: of all the infinitely more useful things that you could have been doing.....
[14:04] <Arby> Riddell: where 1 = Ubuntu version and 2 = debian version? or the other way round
[14:05] <stdin> Hobbsee: I made that months ago actually, almost forgot about it
[14:05] <Hobbsee> oh, i guess there is text in there, so you wouldn't be able to do it wiht an alias...
[14:06] <apachelogger> stdin: sounds familiar to me
[14:06]  * apachelogger created approx. 3 billion scripts related to packaging and revuing
[14:06] <apachelogger> spread all over the system :D
[14:06] <Hobbsee> stdin: we'll find more useful stuff for you to do, than to write wrappers around dpkg --compare-versions.
[14:06]  * apachelogger gives everyone a cookie and leaves for ice cream
[14:06] <Riddell> Arby: any way round, you're just trying to find out if one number is considered larger than the other
[14:07] <stdin> Hobbsee: like write it in python? ;)
[14:07]  * Hobbsee smacks stdin :)
[14:08] <stdin> I think Hobbsee was actually the inspiration for that script, so it's all her fault
[14:08] <Hobbsee> apachelogger: sh's not so bad.  i wrote a shell script that rsyncs iso's.
[14:08] <Hobbsee> stdin: what?  how?
[14:08] <stdin> Hobbsee: I was confused with what ~ meant at the time, and you showed me the dpkg --compare-versions command
[14:09] <stdin> Hobbsee: and then I got the idea for the script
[14:09] <Hobbsee> ah yes, true
[14:09] <Hobbsee> heh
[14:09]  * Hobbsee has wrappers around dpkg-buildpackage written, though
[14:09] <Riddell> debuild
[14:09] <stdin> I can go one better, I have a wrapper around debuild
[14:10] <stdin> again, in #!/bin/sh
[14:10] <Arby> Riddell: dpkg --compare-versions kdelibs_3.5.9.dfsg.1-4.dsc gt kdelibs3.5.9-0ubuntu7.dsc; echo $? returns 0
[14:10] <stdin> my infamous backport script
[14:10] <Arby> which I think means there version is higher than ours
[14:10] <Arby> *their even
[14:11] <Hobbsee> Riddell: hmm, it might actually be debuild, but still adds more switches.
[14:11] <Riddell> Arby: it does indeed
[14:11] <Riddell> Arby: so we can swap to using their .orig fiel
[14:11] <Riddell> file
[14:12] <Arby> so I should work from kdelibs_3.5.9.orig.tar.gz
[14:13] <Arby> sorry I'm struggling to keep up here
[14:14] <Riddell> Arby: you should work with the debian .orig file
[14:15] <Riddell> since we want to be as close to debian as possible, they have a larger version number which means we can
[14:16] <Arby> oh so the file I mentioned is the kde upstream file, and  kdelibs_3.5.9.dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz is the debian version?
[14:17] <Riddell> Serega: what does the change to kubuntu_07_codecs_installation.diff do?
[14:17] <Riddell> Arby: yes
[14:24] <Riddell> Serega: and where is "Hide extra error messagebox"?
[14:35] <Serega> Riddell: "extra error messagebox" see line 195 of the patch
[14:36] <Serega> Riddell: also at line 225 starts handling of additional situations of the codecs absense
[14:37] <Arby> what does AM_MAINTAINER_MODE mode mean in the context of a configure.in file?
[14:37] <Arby> specifically, this diff http://paste.ubuntu.com/9977/
[14:37] <Serega> a sense of all another changes I cannot understand (diff?)
[14:37] <Riddell> Arby: do whatever debian does
[14:37] <Arby> ok
[14:38] <Serega> Riddell: do you know what that stuff means? like line 177
[14:43] <Serega> I have really not changed anything around it
[14:51] <Arby> Riddell: advice please http://paste.ubuntu.com/9978/
[14:51] <Arby> my guess is take the debian version
[14:51] <Arby> but keep launchpad-integration
[15:11] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i think your tasque is buggy.
[15:31] <Riddell> Arby: we don't want menu-xdg
[15:31] <Arby> Riddell: thanks
[15:34] <Arby> Riddell: almost all done, just stuck with one conflict
[15:34] <Arby> https://merges.ubuntu.com/k/kdelibs/REPORT shows a conflict with 98_buildprep.diff
[15:34] <Arby> but I can't find what it conflicts with
[15:35] <Riddell> Arby: oh scrap buildprep patches
[15:35] <Arby> oh ok
[15:35] <Riddell> they just contain the Makefile.in etc diffs, but I just let those live in the package .diff.gz
[15:35] <Arby> ok thanks
[15:35] <Arby> in that case I'm nearly there I think
[15:36] <Riddell> exciting
[15:36] <Arby> just need to run debuild and make a debdiff
[15:36] <Arby> if it builds :)
[15:36] <Arby> cross everything
[15:40] <Riddell> Serega: that's just diff being difficult, I can try and remove those
[15:40] <Riddell> Serega: what's the change to kaffeine.cpp?
[15:40] <Riddell> slotPlaylistPlay() ?
[15:40] <Serega> Riddell: overall changes? or this commit?
[15:41] <Serega> Riddell: yes, slotPlaylistPlay is overall
[15:41] <Riddell> Serega: line 110
[15:41] <Arby> woohoo it builds
[15:41] <Riddell> overall?
[15:41] <Riddell> Arby: already?  that's a quick build
[15:41] <Arby> Riddell: well debuild -S went to completion
[15:41] <Serega> Riddell: I meant entire kubuntu07-autoinstallation.patch
[15:41] <Serega> Riddell: no, changes there
[15:42] <Serega> this time
[15:42] <Riddell> Serega: oh I see, so it is
[15:42] <Serega> all my changes for ubuntu9 are in kxinewidget.cpp
[15:42] <Riddell> diffs of diffs are tricky things
[15:42] <Serega> true :)
[15:43] <Serega> Riddell: I could pick it myself if you have more importrant things to do
[15:45] <Serega> do not want to overhead you, Jon
[15:46] <Serega> with a mechanic work
[15:50] <Riddell> I'm out for half an hour just now
[15:50] <Riddell> if you want to try and get it down to a minimal diff that would be good
[15:50] <Arby> Riddell: debdiff attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/226476
[15:51] <Arby> I think I have the version number wrong but that can be fixed later
[15:51] <Arby> Riddell: I'm off out too. please leave feedback or instruction in the bug report
[15:51] <Arby> whenever you have time
[16:07] <nixternal> apachelogger: there is no build error, it just stops building
[16:08] <nixternal> Hobbsee: yes the tasque is buggy...I don't get why people are getting the evolution-sharp error and then a lot of others are not getting it
[16:15] <apachelogger> nixternal: Oo that sounds almost strange
[17:10] <nixternal> KDE 4 just ate my dog!
[17:11]  * jpatrick wonders what KDE5 will do
[17:12] <nixternal> go go gadget kde4 builders!
[17:21]  * Serega dreams to retab all sourcecode in the world... arrgh
[17:25] <nixternal> my dog just got stung in his twig and giggleberries, totally hating it right now
[17:29] <Serega> lol :)
[17:38] <Serega> Riddell: I have updated the pastebin. I doubt we can strip it more safely.
[17:38] <Riddell> Serega: url?
[17:39] <Serega> Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1007120
[17:52] <jjesse> nixternal: your dog got stung?
[17:52] <Nightrose> Riddell: Neon is going live soonish - maybe you want to get it on kubuntu.org
[17:52] <jjesse> hah
[17:52] <nixternal> jjesse: ya
[17:54] <jjesse> what is neon?
[17:54] <jpatrick> jjesse: buildy amarok builds
[17:55] <Nightrose> amarok nightly builds
[17:55] <Nightrose> ;-)
[17:55] <jpatrick> daily*
[17:55] <jpatrick> or nightly..
[17:55] <jjesse> ah :)
[17:55] <jjesse> guess whose hard drive is going again
[17:56] <jjesse> have my 2nd replacement drive from dell coming
[17:56] <fdoving> Riddell: around?
[17:57] <Riddell> Nightrose: sure, if I know what to say
[17:57] <Riddell> hi fdoving
[17:58] <Nightrose> Riddell: great :) one sec
[17:58] <fdoving> hi riddell. if you're touching kio-umountwrapper, please add dependencies on konqueror and dolphin. without those it'll randomly get uninstalled after one or both of those, and fail because the files it tries to "un-divert" does not exist. (uninstalled before).
[17:59] <fdoving> Riddell: i was thinking it might be possible to push that 2 word change into the other debdiff with the eject error patch. if its not already pushed.
[17:59] <nixternal> w00t, foxnews.com video now works in Linux (in Konqueror at that!)
[17:59] <Riddell> fdoving: am I touching kio-umountwrapper?  surely the patch was just for kdebase
[17:59] <fdoving> Riddell: ah, right. sorry tehn. i'll make a debdiff myself then :)
[18:22] <fdoving> Riddell: is intrepid open for uploads yet?
[18:23] <nixternal> yes
[18:23] <nixternal> fdoving: ^^
[18:23] <fdoving> nixternal: thanks. I need a main sponsor.
[18:23] <fdoving> in a few min.
[18:24] <nixternal> fdoving: ping Riddell, Hobbsee, or ScottK :)
[18:24] <nixternal> there, did it for you actually :p
[18:24] <fdoving> or rather, i'm ready in a few min if someone is available :)
[18:24] <fdoving> thanks again :)
[18:38] <Serega> what does this mean - "open for uploads"?
[18:39] <Serega> and "yet" in this context :)
[18:39] <fdoving> open for uploads means that packages can be uploaded, and added to the archives of the distribution version.
[18:40] <fdoving> "yet" in this context is because in the past it took some time after a release before the new version was "opened for uploads"
[18:42] <Serega> ah, cool. thank you
[19:09] <fdoving> Riddell: would be nice if you could push http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/intrepid/kio-umountwrapper/ to intrepid. - this might be a sru candidate, as it can complicate upgrades.
[19:12] <fdoving> related to bug 186729
[19:59] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: I am back to developing again. If you have in mind anything about how the new KGRUBEditor's UI should be, let me know
[20:00] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: it is highly probable that with this release I will create the SytsemSettings module, too
[20:01] <nixternal> Artemis_Fowl: are you the original kgrubeditors dev?
[20:01] <nixternal> that is the same one I saw on kde-apps.org right?
[20:02] <Artemis_Fowl> nixternal: yep
[20:03] <nixternal> rock on with your badself then :)
[20:03]  * Artemis_Fowl rocks on with his badself...
[20:03] <nixternal> you inspired some gnome devs to work on something similar...I remember then all going "we need something to graphically edit grub with and there is nothing out there"
[20:03] <nixternal> then I showed them kgrubeditor and they were like "damn, got beat to the punch" :)
[20:04] <nixternal> actually, it was LaserJock who had a GSoC student last year that was working on it
[20:04] <Artemis_Fowl> hehe
[20:04] <Artemis_Fowl> KDE ftw
[20:04] <nixternal> no doubt :)
[20:04]  * Artemis_Fowl could say that he hates GNOME
[20:06] <nixternal> I used to, but I am starting to like Gnome apps more and more each day
[20:06] <nixternal> the DE doesn't suit me, but they do have some nifty little apps
[20:06] <Artemis_Fowl> the funny thing is that I may work on creating a Desktop Enviroment independent core for the app
[20:07] <Artemis_Fowl> so that we could sdare code
[20:07] <Artemis_Fowl> share*
[20:07] <Artemis_Fowl> anyway
[20:07]  * Artemis_Fowl will be back in some mins
[20:15] <nixternal> that would rock
[20:29] <Artemis_Fowl> nixternal: have the GNOME guys created a project page or something like this?
[20:30] <nixternal> Artemis_Fowl: it was on wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere
[20:30] <nixternal> if you can't find it, just keep an eye out for LaserJock in ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-motu
[20:31] <Artemis_Fowl> nixternal: good
[20:31] <ScottK> laserjock is active in #ubuntu-motu right now.
[20:32] <Nightrose> http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/482 \o/
[20:33] <Nightrose> cookies for the releaselogger everyone!
[20:33] <Nightrose> ;-)
[20:33] <fdoving> yay, systray works in 4.1 :)
[20:37] <nixternal> Riddell: should I upload all of these kde 4.0.4 packages to intrepid as well?
[20:41] <ScottK> nixternal: Do you think we need to?  Why not just go straight to the 3.1 alpha?
[20:41] <nixternal> oh ya, derr I forgot Riddell is working on that for next week already
[20:41] <nixternal> thanks for reminding me there
[20:42] <ScottK> No problem.  I'd suggest give 4.0.4 a skip.  The buildd's have enough to digest this weekend already.
[20:42] <nixternal> exactly
[20:49] <seele> anyone have Artemis_Fowl's email?
[20:55] <Nightrose> seele: https://edge.launchpad.net/~artemis-fowl-2007
[22:00] <Arby> Riddell: around?
[22:01] <Arby> or anyone who has experience of merging k3b for that matter
[22:07] <Riddell> hi Arby
[22:08] <Arby> Riddell: I'm looking at merging k3b, there's some stuff in KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES that I don't understand
[22:08] <Arby> so far I'm down to http://paste.ubuntu.com/10072/
[22:08] <Arby> I don't know what that means I actually need to do
[22:09] <Arby> or is that just a record
[22:09] <Arby> I've resolved the conflicts listed in the report file to the best of my knowledge
[22:09] <Arby> I just don't want to leave the job half finished
[22:11] <Riddell> Arby: there are patches in debian/patches?
[22:11] <Arby> yes
[22:11] <Riddell> and presumably something in debian/rules to apply those patches
[22:11] <Riddell> and something else in debian/rules to create the translation .pot file
[22:11] <Arby> there could be, what would it look like
[22:12] <Arby> I don't know how to read rules files yet
[22:13] <Riddell> diff the rules files and see what the changes are
[22:13] <Riddell> grep for patch I'd guess
[22:14] <Arby> can't find any mention
[22:14] <Riddell> the .pot generation will be the bunch of lines that include createdesktop.pl
[22:15] <Riddell> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk  ?
[22:15] <Arby> is this it -> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk
[22:15] <Riddell> looks like it uses cdbs in the version I have, so there won't be a need for createdesktop.pl
[22:15] <Riddell> that's the one :)
[22:16] <Arby> ok that's present
[22:16] <Arby> so I think rules is ok
[22:17] <Arby> what about the last 3 lines in the file I pasted above
[22:17] <Riddell> k3b uses some mp3 and other codecs we can't include on the CD
[22:18] <Riddell> so those get split out into the libk3b2-extracodecs package in kubuntu
[22:18] <Riddell> look for libk3b2-extracodecs.install and the lines for libk3b2-extracodecs in debian/control
[22:18] <Arby> the .install file is present
[22:19] <Arby> checking control
[22:19] <nixternal> Riddell: how did kxsldbg get skipped from the kdewebdev package?
[22:19] <nixternal> there was a .install file, but there wasn't anything in control for kxsldbg-kde4
[22:19] <Riddell> nixternal: dunno, I expect I just copied what debian had at the time
[22:19] <nixternal> hehe, well I fixed that...I just have like 2 more of the core packages to upload to backports
[22:20] <Arby> Riddell: debian/control has a section for libk3b2-extracodecs
[22:20] <nixternal> kdewebdev and kdetoys for core packages, well kdebindings as well
[22:20] <Riddell> Arby: in debian?
[22:21] <Arby> as far as I can tell yes
[22:21] <Riddell> by libk3b2.files it means libk3b2.install, make sure that has the separate files listed, (so it doesn't install the mp3 codecs)
[22:21] <Arby> checking
[22:23] <Riddell> the kubuntu-media-k3b bit seems to be obsolete, according to the changelog
[22:23] <Arby> libk3b2.install doesn't mention mp3
[22:24] <Arby> ok I that in the changelog
[22:24] <Arby> s/I/I see/
[22:25] <Arby> so I think we're there
[22:31] <Arby> except that debuild -S fails with debian/rules:64: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries. Stop.
[22:31] <Arby> sounds like some sort of syntax error
[22:58] <Riddell> apachelogger: dude, this nightly amarok thing really works
[23:07] <Arby> Riddell: could you take a look at debian/rules for k3b, I can't get it to build http://paste.ubuntu.com/10099/
[23:07] <Arby> I tried removing the ubuntu section of that diff
[23:08] <Arby> but debuild fails with the error just up there ^^
[23:13] <Riddell> Arby: looks like us and debian have entirely different debian/rules files
[23:14] <Arby> ah, that sounds bad
[23:14] <Riddell> pick whichever you prefer I guess and go with that
[23:14] <Arby> I'm not qualified to have a preference
[23:14] <Riddell> toss a coin
[23:15] <Riddell> we should, I suppose, keep the diff with debian as small as possible
[23:17] <Arby> are you saying I need a completely new rules file from debian?
[23:17] <Arby> sorry I'm a bit out of my depth here
[23:17] <Arby> a lot actually
[23:18] <Riddell> just copy it over from debian
[23:18] <Arby> looking for it now
[23:27] <Riddell> hmm
[23:27] <Riddell> having said that, you'd need to work out how to add patch support to it
[23:28] <Riddell> so maybe it's easiest to stick with the cdbs one we have currently
[23:29] <Arby> so where do I look for that
[23:29] <Arby> in a previous package version?
[23:29] <Riddell> Arby: yes
[23:29] <Riddell> apt-get source k3b
[23:30] <Riddell> surely you have the existing source already, else what are you starting from?
[23:30] <Arby> I do, I'm just getting lost among all the different files
[23:30] <Riddell> mm, that happens
[23:30] <Arby> I'm starting from what grab-merge.sh k3b spits out
[23:32] <Arby> and I don't yet know which of the numerous files contains what I want
[23:33] <Arby> this is becoming one of those 'why did I start this moments' :)
[23:36] <Riddell> Arby: I can't get your kdelibs patch to apply against the current debian version, could you just tar up the debian/ directory and get that to me somehow?
[23:37] <Arby> sure, give me a minute
[23:39] <Riddell> Arby: oh never mind, I worked out how to do it
[23:39] <Arby> Riddell: did I get something wrong (likely)?
[23:40] <Riddell> not at all
[23:40] <Riddell> I just wasn't sure how to apply a debdiff with different .orig files
[23:40] <Riddell> Arby: did you test compile kdelibs?
[23:41] <Arby> Riddell: I ran debuild -S as advised on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
[23:41] <Arby> and that completed
[23:42] <Riddell> that just compiles a source package, which is good, you should also run debuild to see if it compiles binary packages ok
[23:42] <Riddell> I'll run that now on kdelibs#
[23:43] <Arby> ah I haven't been doing that
[23:43] <Arby> oh well, now I know :)
[23:44] <Arby> ah yes now I know why I didn't do it
[23:45] <seele> Nightrose: thanks
[23:45] <Arby> it fails for lack of builddeps
[23:45] <Arby> because I couldn't get pbuilder to work
[23:46] <Arby> Riddell: debuild -S completes on k3b when I replace debian/rules with the our previous version
[23:46] <Arby> preparing debdiff
[23:52] <Arby> Riddell: debdiff attached https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/226635
[23:54] <Arby> and that's enough packaging for one day