[01:15] * nixternal goes back to uploading stdin's 4.0.4 packages [01:15] just got home from a bday party for my neice, and I am dead tired [01:58] I'm starting to getting sick of the "are there any 4.1 alpha packages yet?" questions in -kde4 [01:58] hehe [01:58] put there aren't any plans in the topic [01:59] I have been telling people to put openSUSE in a VM if you want to see a very bad desktop [01:59] I'm tempted, but I know no one ever reads the damn topic anyway :p [01:59] if we put up alpha packages, there will easily be 50+ bugs files against plasma not working worth a damn [02:00] people expect them because we had 4.0 alphas [02:00] if they want 4.1 alphas, do it, but for Intrepid [02:01] break it before the base is even uploaded, yeah :) [02:01] as soon as you put out Hardy 4.1 alpha packages, people will complain...tell them if they want it so bad, to start working on building the packages [02:03] I could answer: depends, are you going to create them for me? then when they say "how?" I'll just say, !packaging :p [02:03] then I'll /part really fast and run so they can't ask me for help [02:04] stdin: are those 4.0.4 module packages on your broadband connection? [02:04] if you can call it broadband, yeah [02:04] hehe, ok [02:04] I am grabbing games now, have the rest to grab [02:04] going to just grab them all in one shot while kdebindings 4.0.4 test builds [02:04] ahh, I noticed my lag jump :p [02:05] hehe [02:05] that's me w00tin' your server :p [02:05] what are you getting, like 30KB/s at the most? [02:06] I have found the same exact problem though in everyone of your module packages you did for 4.0.4 [02:06] 43k [02:06] I haven't checked in a while and it varies from time to time (depending on who owns my ISP at the time) [02:06] you didn't create a backport bug and close it in the changelog :p === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [02:06] I have created all of the backport reports, and I am just editing the changelog with emacs so you get the karma [02:07] bah, that's the job of a motu :p [02:07] just adding (LP: #xxxx) to the * New upstream release line [02:07] I may have updated an install file for new stuff added to the package, other than that, they are good [02:08] kind of hard for you to do the testing though w/o libs and base [02:09] yeah, it would have taken too long for me to either hack them to build with 4.0.3 or get libs etc built, so I skipped a step there [02:09] I usually like to test build before I call them "ready" [02:11] I think python is making me lazy, just spent 5 mins trying to figure out what was wrong with my c++ code, turns out I didn't type the variable :/ [02:11] stdin: I expect alpha packages will start to appear next week [02:12] Riddell: those will be for intrepid right? [02:17] stdin: yes [02:17] but maybe someone will want to backport them to a PPA [02:18] as long as Qt4.4 won't break things, I don't see why not [02:18] I haven't even tried Qt4.4 yet, missed out on the whole dev cycle there [02:20] you're not the only one stdin [02:21] Riddell: i've been under the impression you're afk for most of the weekend [02:22] seele: I have to pass the time somehow while I fill in my tax return [02:22] yikes, kdebindings 4.0.4 is being a brat [02:23] it always is... [02:23] it just stops building at the same spot every time [02:24] I wouldn't worry too much about it nixternal [02:24] maybe skip the offending module? [02:25] yup, skipping and moving on...I should have all of the modules uploaded either tonight or tomorrow morning at the latest [02:30] ew taxes.. good luck [02:32] the trick is to end up making sure they owe you as much as possible [02:33] I wonder how much I can claim for toilet paper use in the last year [03:25] evening :) [05:52] * Serega silently: "Good time of day" [05:53] heya! [06:00] Hobbsee: glad to see you [06:00] :) === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [08:54] Riddell: Jonathan? === hunger_t_ is now known as hunger [11:36] * SiNiESTrO is away: Ausente por ahora. === gnomefre2k is now known as gnomefreak [13:27] Serega: hi [13:27] Riddell: hi! [13:28] Riddell: I have a debdiff, could you please review and upload it? [13:28] sure [13:31] Serega: any idea what would cause this? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161592 [13:31] KDE bug 161592 in general "kaffeine loops trying to install a codec that can't be used" [Normal,New] [13:31] possibly the lack of decss? [13:32] Riddell: if you're in review mode could you have a look at the debdiff on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice/+bug/226281 when you get a chance. [13:32] Riddell: I have already fixed this, thank you for pointing [13:32] Launchpad bug 226281 in koffice "Please merge koffice 1:1.6.3-5 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [13:32] Serega: can you say so on that bug, or got a comment for me to add? [13:33] I will add a comment [13:34] Arby: yes, sorry I got busy yesterday [13:34] Riddell: no problem it was pretty late anyway, no rush [13:35] just trying to make pbuilder behave for testing purposes [13:35] Riddell: you missed the meeting, too [13:35] Hobbsee: I know, I said I would [13:35] oh [13:36] Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1006896 [13:37] Riddell: look at the line 32 of the debdiff - is if a fix for "looping" [13:39] groovy [13:39] Arby: your diff is backwards but otherwise all good [13:40] Riddell: oh, what is the correct way then? [13:40] and what happens next, I'm still learning the process [13:41] Riddell: how detailed that comment should be? [13:41] nixternal: what's the build error for kdebindings? [13:41] Arby: just means you diffed the new against the old rather than the old against the new, so I need to patch with -R [13:41] Arby: next I upload [13:42] yay, first ever package done :) [13:42] * Arby looks for something else to do [13:45] Arby: kdelibs if you're feeling like doing important stuff :) [13:45] Serega: which comment? [13:46] Riddell: I'm just wondering if that would be considered insane at this stage [13:46] let me look at the report [13:47] Arby: I happen to not use the merge reports, I tend to just start with Debian's debian/ dir and apply changes listed in debian/KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES and the changelog [13:48] Riddell: below the bugreport at the bugs.kde.org [13:48] Riddell: I've been using the Conflicts section to know where I should be looking for things to check [13:48] Riddell: I'll give it a go if you're prepared to pick up the pieces [13:48] Serega: oh just say it's a kubuntu specific bug and will be fixed in an update [13:49] Arby: go for it [13:49] commence operation suicide [13:51] operation arby-is-elite [13:51] :) [13:52] Riddell: what does dfsg mean in the version number for kdelibs [13:53] means they ripped out the good bits [13:53] or the bad bits. depending on your POV> [13:53] the debian nonfree bits, anyway [13:54] oh so dfsg = debian free software guidelines? [13:54] and they've removed the bits that are non-compliant? [13:54] Arby: yes [13:55] ok [14:00] they'll have removed some RFC files [14:00] (which I've removed upstream) [14:00] I don't know if that'll give them a higher or lower version number than we have [14:01] dpkg --compare-versions 1 gt 2; echo $? to find out [14:02] I got bored one day, so I made this http://stdin.pastebin.com/d2f36677a for dpkg --compare-versions [14:02] stdin: that could be added to ubuntu dev tools [14:03] maybe, but like everything I do, it's just a hack :p [14:03] * apachelogger is afraid of that sh magic [14:04] * Hobbsee shakes her head [14:04] stdin: of all the infinitely more useful things that you could have been doing..... [14:04] Riddell: where 1 = Ubuntu version and 2 = debian version? or the other way round [14:05] Hobbsee: I made that months ago actually, almost forgot about it [14:05] oh, i guess there is text in there, so you wouldn't be able to do it wiht an alias... [14:06] stdin: sounds familiar to me [14:06] * apachelogger created approx. 3 billion scripts related to packaging and revuing [14:06] spread all over the system :D [14:06] stdin: we'll find more useful stuff for you to do, than to write wrappers around dpkg --compare-versions. [14:06] * apachelogger gives everyone a cookie and leaves for ice cream [14:06] Arby: any way round, you're just trying to find out if one number is considered larger than the other [14:07] Hobbsee: like write it in python? ;) [14:07] * Hobbsee smacks stdin :) [14:08] I think Hobbsee was actually the inspiration for that script, so it's all her fault [14:08] apachelogger: sh's not so bad. i wrote a shell script that rsyncs iso's. [14:08] stdin: what? how? [14:08] Hobbsee: I was confused with what ~ meant at the time, and you showed me the dpkg --compare-versions command [14:09] Hobbsee: and then I got the idea for the script [14:09] ah yes, true [14:09] heh [14:09] * Hobbsee has wrappers around dpkg-buildpackage written, though [14:09] debuild [14:09] I can go one better, I have a wrapper around debuild [14:10] again, in #!/bin/sh [14:10] Riddell: dpkg --compare-versions kdelibs_3.5.9.dfsg.1-4.dsc gt kdelibs3.5.9-0ubuntu7.dsc; echo $? returns 0 [14:10] my infamous backport script [14:10] which I think means there version is higher than ours [14:10] *their even [14:11] Riddell: hmm, it might actually be debuild, but still adds more switches. [14:11] Arby: it does indeed [14:11] Arby: so we can swap to using their .orig fiel [14:11] file [14:12] so I should work from kdelibs_3.5.9.orig.tar.gz [14:13] sorry I'm struggling to keep up here [14:14] Arby: you should work with the debian .orig file [14:15] since we want to be as close to debian as possible, they have a larger version number which means we can [14:16] oh so the file I mentioned is the kde upstream file, and kdelibs_3.5.9.dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz is the debian version? [14:17] Serega: what does the change to kubuntu_07_codecs_installation.diff do? [14:17] Arby: yes [14:24] Serega: and where is "Hide extra error messagebox"? [14:35] Riddell: "extra error messagebox" see line 195 of the patch [14:36] Riddell: also at line 225 starts handling of additional situations of the codecs absense [14:37] what does AM_MAINTAINER_MODE mode mean in the context of a configure.in file? [14:37] specifically, this diff http://paste.ubuntu.com/9977/ [14:37] a sense of all another changes I cannot understand (diff?) [14:37] Arby: do whatever debian does [14:37] ok [14:38] Riddell: do you know what that stuff means? like line 177 [14:43] I have really not changed anything around it [14:51] Riddell: advice please http://paste.ubuntu.com/9978/ [14:51] my guess is take the debian version [14:51] but keep launchpad-integration [15:11] nixternal: i think your tasque is buggy. [15:31] Arby: we don't want menu-xdg [15:31] Riddell: thanks [15:34] Riddell: almost all done, just stuck with one conflict [15:34] https://merges.ubuntu.com/k/kdelibs/REPORT shows a conflict with 98_buildprep.diff [15:34] but I can't find what it conflicts with [15:35] Arby: oh scrap buildprep patches [15:35] oh ok [15:35] they just contain the Makefile.in etc diffs, but I just let those live in the package .diff.gz [15:35] ok thanks [15:35] in that case I'm nearly there I think [15:36] exciting [15:36] just need to run debuild and make a debdiff [15:36] if it builds :) [15:36] cross everything [15:40] Serega: that's just diff being difficult, I can try and remove those [15:40] Serega: what's the change to kaffeine.cpp? [15:40] slotPlaylistPlay() ? [15:40] Riddell: overall changes? or this commit? [15:41] Riddell: yes, slotPlaylistPlay is overall [15:41] Serega: line 110 [15:41] woohoo it builds [15:41] overall? [15:41] Arby: already? that's a quick build [15:41] Riddell: well debuild -S went to completion [15:41] Riddell: I meant entire kubuntu07-autoinstallation.patch [15:41] Riddell: no, changes there [15:42] this time === neversfelde|mobi is now known as kubuntu-deIRC [15:42] Serega: oh I see, so it is [15:42] all my changes for ubuntu9 are in kxinewidget.cpp [15:42] diffs of diffs are tricky things [15:42] true :) === kubuntu-deIRC is now known as neversfelde|mobi [15:43] Riddell: I could pick it myself if you have more importrant things to do [15:45] do not want to overhead you, Jon [15:46] with a mechanic work [15:50] I'm out for half an hour just now [15:50] if you want to try and get it down to a minimal diff that would be good [15:50] Riddell: debdiff attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/226476 [15:50] Launchpad bug 226476 in kdelibs "merge kdelibs 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-4 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [15:51] I think I have the version number wrong but that can be fixed later [15:51] Riddell: I'm off out too. please leave feedback or instruction in the bug report [15:51] whenever you have time [16:07] apachelogger: there is no build error, it just stops building [16:08] Hobbsee: yes the tasque is buggy...I don't get why people are getting the evolution-sharp error and then a lot of others are not getting it [16:15] nixternal: Oo that sounds almost strange === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [17:10] KDE 4 just ate my dog! [17:11] * jpatrick wonders what KDE5 will do [17:12] go go gadget kde4 builders! [17:21] * Serega dreams to retab all sourcecode in the world... arrgh [17:25] my dog just got stung in his twig and giggleberries, totally hating it right now [17:29] lol :) [17:38] Riddell: I have updated the pastebin. I doubt we can strip it more safely. [17:38] Serega: url? [17:39] Riddell: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1007120 [17:52] nixternal: your dog got stung? [17:52] Riddell: Neon is going live soonish - maybe you want to get it on kubuntu.org [17:52] hah [17:52] jjesse: ya [17:54] what is neon? [17:54] jjesse: buildy amarok builds [17:55] amarok nightly builds [17:55] ;-) [17:55] daily* [17:55] or nightly.. [17:55] ah :) [17:55] guess whose hard drive is going again [17:56] have my 2nd replacement drive from dell coming [17:56] Riddell: around? [17:57] Nightrose: sure, if I know what to say [17:57] hi fdoving [17:58] Riddell: great :) one sec [17:58] hi riddell. if you're touching kio-umountwrapper, please add dependencies on konqueror and dolphin. without those it'll randomly get uninstalled after one or both of those, and fail because the files it tries to "un-divert" does not exist. (uninstalled before). [17:59] Riddell: i was thinking it might be possible to push that 2 word change into the other debdiff with the eject error patch. if its not already pushed. [17:59] w00t, foxnews.com video now works in Linux (in Konqueror at that!) [17:59] fdoving: am I touching kio-umountwrapper? surely the patch was just for kdebase [17:59] Riddell: ah, right. sorry tehn. i'll make a debdiff myself then :) === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === never|mobi is now known as neversfelde|mobi [18:22] Riddell: is intrepid open for uploads yet? [18:23] yes [18:23] fdoving: ^^ [18:23] nixternal: thanks. I need a main sponsor. [18:23] in a few min. [18:24] fdoving: ping Riddell, Hobbsee, or ScottK :) [18:24] there, did it for you actually :p [18:24] or rather, i'm ready in a few min if someone is available :) [18:24] thanks again :) [18:38] what does this mean - "open for uploads"? [18:39] and "yet" in this context :) [18:39] open for uploads means that packages can be uploaded, and added to the archives of the distribution version. [18:40] "yet" in this context is because in the past it took some time after a release before the new version was "opened for uploads" [18:42] ah, cool. thank you [19:09] Riddell: would be nice if you could push http://frode.kde.no/ubuntu/intrepid/kio-umountwrapper/ to intrepid. - this might be a sru candidate, as it can complicate upgrades. [19:12] related to bug 186729 [19:12] Launchpad bug 186729 in kio-umountwrapper "Cannot uninstall kio-umountwrapper" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186729 === apachelogger is now known as releaselogger [19:59] seele: I am back to developing again. If you have in mind anything about how the new KGRUBEditor's UI should be, let me know [20:00] seele: it is highly probable that with this release I will create the SytsemSettings module, too [20:01] Artemis_Fowl: are you the original kgrubeditors dev? [20:01] that is the same one I saw on kde-apps.org right? [20:02] nixternal: yep [20:03] rock on with your badself then :) [20:03] * Artemis_Fowl rocks on with his badself... [20:03] you inspired some gnome devs to work on something similar...I remember then all going "we need something to graphically edit grub with and there is nothing out there" [20:03] then I showed them kgrubeditor and they were like "damn, got beat to the punch" :) [20:04] actually, it was LaserJock who had a GSoC student last year that was working on it [20:04] hehe [20:04] KDE ftw [20:04] no doubt :) [20:04] * Artemis_Fowl could say that he hates GNOME [20:06] I used to, but I am starting to like Gnome apps more and more each day [20:06] the DE doesn't suit me, but they do have some nifty little apps [20:06] the funny thing is that I may work on creating a Desktop Enviroment independent core for the app [20:07] so that we could sdare code [20:07] share* [20:07] anyway [20:07] * Artemis_Fowl will be back in some mins [20:15] that would rock [20:29] nixternal: have the GNOME guys created a project page or something like this? [20:30] Artemis_Fowl: it was on wiki.ubuntu.com somewhere [20:30] if you can't find it, just keep an eye out for LaserJock in ubuntu-devel or ubuntu-motu [20:31] nixternal: good [20:31] laserjock is active in #ubuntu-motu right now. [20:32] http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/482 \o/ [20:33] cookies for the releaselogger everyone! [20:33] ;-) [20:33] yay, systray works in 4.1 :) [20:37] Riddell: should I upload all of these kde 4.0.4 packages to intrepid as well? [20:41] nixternal: Do you think we need to? Why not just go straight to the 3.1 alpha? [20:41] oh ya, derr I forgot Riddell is working on that for next week already [20:41] thanks for reminding me there [20:42] No problem. I'd suggest give 4.0.4 a skip. The buildd's have enough to digest this weekend already. [20:42] exactly [20:49] anyone have Artemis_Fowl's email? === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger [20:55] seele: https://edge.launchpad.net/~artemis-fowl-2007 [22:00] Riddell: around? [22:01] or anyone who has experience of merging k3b for that matter === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [22:07] hi Arby [22:08] Riddell: I'm looking at merging k3b, there's some stuff in KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES that I don't understand [22:08] so far I'm down to http://paste.ubuntu.com/10072/ [22:08] I don't know what that means I actually need to do [22:09] or is that just a record [22:09] I've resolved the conflicts listed in the report file to the best of my knowledge [22:09] I just don't want to leave the job half finished [22:11] Arby: there are patches in debian/patches? [22:11] yes [22:11] and presumably something in debian/rules to apply those patches [22:11] and something else in debian/rules to create the translation .pot file [22:11] there could be, what would it look like [22:12] I don't know how to read rules files yet [22:13] diff the rules files and see what the changes are [22:13] grep for patch I'd guess [22:14] can't find any mention [22:14] the .pot generation will be the bunch of lines that include createdesktop.pl [22:15] include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk ? [22:15] is this it -> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk [22:15] looks like it uses cdbs in the version I have, so there won't be a need for createdesktop.pl [22:15] that's the one :) [22:16] ok that's present [22:16] so I think rules is ok [22:17] what about the last 3 lines in the file I pasted above [22:17] k3b uses some mp3 and other codecs we can't include on the CD [22:18] so those get split out into the libk3b2-extracodecs package in kubuntu [22:18] look for libk3b2-extracodecs.install and the lines for libk3b2-extracodecs in debian/control [22:18] the .install file is present [22:19] checking control [22:19] Riddell: how did kxsldbg get skipped from the kdewebdev package? [22:19] there was a .install file, but there wasn't anything in control for kxsldbg-kde4 [22:19] nixternal: dunno, I expect I just copied what debian had at the time [22:19] hehe, well I fixed that...I just have like 2 more of the core packages to upload to backports [22:20] Riddell: debian/control has a section for libk3b2-extracodecs [22:20] kdewebdev and kdetoys for core packages, well kdebindings as well [22:20] Arby: in debian? [22:21] as far as I can tell yes [22:21] by libk3b2.files it means libk3b2.install, make sure that has the separate files listed, (so it doesn't install the mp3 codecs) [22:21] checking [22:23] the kubuntu-media-k3b bit seems to be obsolete, according to the changelog [22:23] libk3b2.install doesn't mention mp3 [22:24] ok I that in the changelog [22:24] s/I/I see/ [22:25] so I think we're there === blueyed_ is now known as blueyed [22:31] except that debuild -S fails with debian/rules:64: *** target file `clean' has both : and :: entries. Stop. [22:31] sounds like some sort of syntax error [22:58] apachelogger: dude, this nightly amarok thing really works [23:07] Riddell: could you take a look at debian/rules for k3b, I can't get it to build http://paste.ubuntu.com/10099/ [23:07] I tried removing the ubuntu section of that diff [23:08] but debuild fails with the error just up there ^^ [23:13] Arby: looks like us and debian have entirely different debian/rules files [23:14] ah, that sounds bad [23:14] pick whichever you prefer I guess and go with that [23:14] I'm not qualified to have a preference [23:14] toss a coin [23:15] we should, I suppose, keep the diff with debian as small as possible [23:17] are you saying I need a completely new rules file from debian? [23:17] sorry I'm a bit out of my depth here [23:17] a lot actually [23:18] just copy it over from debian [23:18] looking for it now [23:27] hmm [23:27] having said that, you'd need to work out how to add patch support to it [23:28] so maybe it's easiest to stick with the cdbs one we have currently [23:29] so where do I look for that [23:29] in a previous package version? [23:29] Arby: yes [23:29] apt-get source k3b [23:30] surely you have the existing source already, else what are you starting from? [23:30] I do, I'm just getting lost among all the different files [23:30] mm, that happens [23:30] I'm starting from what grab-merge.sh k3b spits out [23:32] and I don't yet know which of the numerous files contains what I want [23:33] this is becoming one of those 'why did I start this moments' :) [23:36] Arby: I can't get your kdelibs patch to apply against the current debian version, could you just tar up the debian/ directory and get that to me somehow? [23:37] sure, give me a minute [23:39] Arby: oh never mind, I worked out how to do it [23:39] Riddell: did I get something wrong (likely)? [23:40] not at all [23:40] I just wasn't sure how to apply a debdiff with different .orig files [23:40] Arby: did you test compile kdelibs? [23:41] Riddell: I ran debuild -S as advised on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging [23:41] and that completed [23:42] that just compiles a source package, which is good, you should also run debuild to see if it compiles binary packages ok [23:42] I'll run that now on kdelibs# [23:43] ah I haven't been doing that [23:43] oh well, now I know :) [23:44] ah yes now I know why I didn't do it [23:45] Nightrose: thanks [23:45] it fails for lack of builddeps [23:45] because I couldn't get pbuilder to work [23:46] Riddell: debuild -S completes on k3b when I replace debian/rules with the our previous version [23:46] preparing debdiff [23:52] Riddell: debdiff attached https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/226635 [23:52] Launchpad bug 226635 in k3b "merge k3b 1.0.4-8 (main) from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [23:54] and that's enough packaging for one day === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 8.04 Released http://kubuntu.org/news/8.04-release | Let's do merges!